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it's interesting watching all of the legal shit unfold in CA for you all...i get why people are calling Judge Benitez the patron saint of the 2A out there. most people assume his latest ruling on the "assault weapon" ban was exactly to get that in front of the Supreme Court...
Yeah I'm curious to see how it will all unfold, but i also am loathe to cheer on these right wing judges, even if i do want a lot of the CA laws to be overturned
copy that Dale, absolutely. but, all of the privileged white hypocrites pushing this "gun control" mess are correspondingly pushing those of us on the left in the working class, into ally positions with some on the right--i swear, this is one reason why the shooting ranges i frequent are more diverse places than the university campuses where i teach.
did y'all hear about all of those public defenders in NY pushing for the supreme court to "to eviscerate gun regulations," specifically NY's absurdly racist and classist restrictions on concealed carrry?
https://www.thenation.com/article/society/black-gun-owners-court/
eh, y'all remember when Frantz Fanon said this?
"The unpreparedness of the educated classes, the lack of practical links between them and the mass of the people, their laziness, and, let it be said, their cowardice at the decisive moment of the struggle will give rise to tragic mishaps."
Oh i wholeheartedly agree. They are more than willing to grumble about the police because it looks bad, not because they have an actual critique of policing in this country and it's racist roots. They are happy to hide behind the cops who protect their comfortable life and want to force us to co opt their polite values.
I'm just obviously very wary of a crowd that likes to wear "Pinochet did nothing wrong" shirts at rallies even on a tactical alliance for one issue. They fantasize about turning their guns on us
funny that you mention the police, in this conversation about most of the privileged, gentrifying hypocrites i brought up above.
back here in--and around--Detroit, the city still wears the racism of the past on its sleeve...it is seemingly indelibly inscribed in the landscape. so, even after the past decade or so of forced and coerced dispersal of many of the city’s lifelong black residents (arguably to make way for all of the young white tech people a single billionaire wants to populate the city with), the city’s population is still nearly 80% black, and the vast majority of these poor and working people live in the approximately 132-square miles of neighborhoods of single-family homes, outside of “New Detroit” primarily in the center. this center downtown area is what you mostly here about in the news when you hear about Detroit being “reborn”--this center of the city is heavily policed and heavily monitored and more of an urban theme park than part of the sprawling neighborhoods.
i bring this up because, during all of the protests that were supposed to be about George Floyd, the crowds of protestors were mostly white in many cases, which lets one know that most of those people were not from the city, and even if they recently moved here, they lived downtown in “New Detroit.”
so the
Detroit Free Press just published the results of a poll they contributed to, which clearly illustrates that many/most of these gentrifying white hypocrites taking selfies of themselves with their fists in the air and calling for "defunding" the police (who are also the kinds of privileged fucks calling for “gun control") are completely disconnected from the realities of actually having to live in the 132-square miles of the city outside of the urban theme park that is "New Detroit.” in other words, they are completely disconnected from the realities of having to live on the daily around the kinds of poor and desperate people who have been especially violent in the past year or so.
https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2021/07/25/detroit-police-reform-public-safety-defund-suffolk-poll/8085690002/"By an overwhelming 9-1, they [actual lifelong city residents in the neighborhoods] would feel safer with more cops on the street, not fewer."
i know i recently said the same in the Leftists thread (i’m repeating myself, so it may be time to focus this account anyway), but these privileged white liberals are worse than useless, they are absolutely in the way of progress, and the above example is just one example that shows how--commanding conversations that they know little to nothing about, simply because of their privilege.
the way i see it, crime and poverty are the main things that separate us pro-2A people on the left, from the vast majority of NRA kinds of 2A people--those of us on the left, understand that any conversation about crime and violent crime is wrong and futile if poverty is not kept front and center in the conversation (remember when Gandhi said that “poverty is the worst form of violence”?). we want to keep these conversations about and efforts at countering the systemic poverty and necessity that keeps generating new criminals and criminalized youth going, but in the meantime--in the daily realities of defending oneself and one’s loved ones--we understand (often from firsthand experience unfortunately) the necessity of being armed. many/most of the NRA fucks simply dismiss criminals as “bad people” who get what they deserve, and that’s the main reason leftists like me will never join the NRA.
you know, Killer Mike really did say it the best here, regarding, right-leaning white gun-owners in the working class, versus privileged ass white liberals--"allies" versus “pretend friends" respectively
apologies for the length of the above, but bringing people's stances towards the police into this, made me think of the above poll, which was just published this week, and since i just finished teaching the lit class I was teaching this summer, i’m here with a strong cup of coffee lurking on SLAP this morning, so i had the time to say my peace...
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