Security guard beaten at SF Black Rock

[Dark Knight]

Another thing is that the security guard could still potentially die from his injuries.  It’s a long road to recovery and that road is full of complications that can come from this incident.  Whether it’s weeks, months, or years from now.  If that happens things will change entirely. And I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but his life expectancy has been greatly shortened by this and when he does eventually pass it will surely be blamed on this incident.

[ArtVandelay]

First, this thread should is prime evidence of the fact that: if you have even half of a brain in your head, you should stay the fuck away from the absolute morons on this message board. It's unfortunate to those of us who love skateboarding, but also know that skaters are probably the last people we'd want to associate ourselves with these days. Most of the idiots on this thread seem to have a 10 year-olds grasp of logic. It's astounding.

Second, instead of all the beyond-stupid hypotheticals being thrown out by you idiots, the better way to evaluate this situation would be to imagine what Jesse is thinking right now. Do you think he's proud that he fucked that security guard up, happy that he defended himself against a fat old man, stoked that he's in county jail with rapists and murderers and gang members?

I'm willing to be that he would give anything to go back and handle that situation in a completely different manner. He went from being in a predatory 8-on-1 situation, to his little bitch ass being prey in a building full of serious criminals, and being denied bail so he has no way out. Bro is probably crying himself to sleep at night.

I don’t know, it’s your logic that sounds like a 10 year olds to me. “He feels bad about it so cut him some slack.” “He would go back and do it differently.” (Says everyone who has ever been to jail, ever. What’s that saying - you’re not sorry you did it, just sorry you got caught)There is no going back. Also I’d be pretty upset if I was one of Dan’s family members. None of those dudes have come forward to accept responsibility. They’re all hiding and Jesse is trying to get out of it. Not a good look.

[Brguy]

I couldn't tell shit from the video and didn't read 20 pages.  Security swung first and skater did not use a board to hit him, is that the consensus?  Yes or no? 

I've seen both said multiple times, as I probably did read 10 pages, but I ain't starting over.

Yes, but the security guard was punched while on the ground.

[johnes]

Who’s got the second video angle?
I’m thinking it’s not gonna prove shit.

This is what happened.

> guard tries to grab someone’s skateboard to take it away, that’s not something that requires psyical self defense.

>He goes to take the skateboard and is then attacked by a whole group of guys.

>piece of shit skater punches guard while he’s already fallen to the ground

> guard gets up and is hit again and knocked out then smacks his head on the ground


>Guard didn’t throw the first punch
>tries to grab the skateboard and is then asullted to the point of never being able to recognize his family again.

[kookshit]

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[Surf-goth]

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First, this thread should is prime evidence of the fact that: if you have even half of a brain in your head, you should stay the fuck away from the absolute morons on this message board. It's unfortunate to those of us who love skateboarding, but also know that skaters are probably the last people we'd want to associate ourselves with these days. Most of the idiots on this thread seem to have a 10 year-olds grasp of logic. It's astounding.

Second, instead of all the beyond-stupid hypotheticals being thrown out by you idiots, the better way to evaluate this situation would be to imagine what Jesse is thinking right now. Do you think he's proud that he fucked that security guard up, happy that he defended himself against a fat old man, stoked that he's in county jail with rapists and murderers and gang members?

I'm willing to be that he would give anything to go back and handle that situation in a completely different manner. He went from being in a predatory 8-on-1 situation, to his little bitch ass being prey in a building full of serious criminals, and being denied bail so he has no way out. Bro is probably crying himself to sleep at night.

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I don’t know, it’s your logic that sounds like a 10 year olds to me. “He feels bad about it so cut him some slack.” “He would go back and do it differently.” (Says everyone who has ever been to jail, ever. What’s that saying - you’re not sorry you did it, just sorry you got caught)There is no going back. Also I’d be pretty upset if I was one of Dan’s family members. None of those dudes have come forward to accept responsibility. They’re all hiding and Jesse is trying to get out of it. Not a good look.

I've been to jail for felony assault and no matter how bad you feel about it the courts don't care. I fucked up so i had to face the consequences and so should they. What's this "with rapists and murderers " shit? Guess what you give someone brain damage that's exactly where you belong.

[Get the strap]

Who’s got the second video angle?
I’m thinking it’s not gonna prove shit.

This is what happened.

> guard tries to grab someone’s skateboard to take it away, that’s not something that requires psyical self defense.

>He goes to take the skateboard and is then attacked by a whole group of guys.

>piece of shit skater punches guard while he’s already fallen to the ground

> guard gets up and is hit again and knocked out then smacks his head on the ground


>Guard didn’t throw the first punch
>tries to grab the skateboard and is then asullted to the point of never being able to recognize his family again.

That's how it looked to me too...He got knocked to the ground, got punched on the ground, got up, they ganged up on him, he got hit with a board and the board fell to the ground, when he got hit with the board he got knocked unconscious, the skaters realized that and let him go, then he just fell back unconscious and hit his head again and then they left. He looks like he's already knocked out when he falls backwards.

[johnes]

Man and I fucking hate having to be on the side of the security guard.

[Bumpovertrash]

So is Jesse the one that hit the guard when he was on the ground?

[johnes]

So is Jesse the one that hit the guard when he was on the ground?

That part idk, I don’t even know what that guy looks and I wouldn’t be able to tell from the video even if I did know, I think.

[NickDagger]

I’m not a doctor but I’m pretty sure it’s not a good sign when your head can be accurately described as MASSIVELY DENTED.

[NickDagger]

These guys treated this guys skull like a soccer ball during cinco de mayo.

[NickDagger]

CTE1000

[NickDagger]

I’m torn. On one hand the security guard can’t recognize his own family. On the other hand they DID have to temporarily leave the spot. I call it even.

[planman]

CTE1000

[A.J.K.]

What even are courts anymore? Just ask SLAP what to do.

Is JV being tried in the Court of Slap? No. People here are rightly pissed that these guys felt it necessary to jointly beat a security guard. Your comment is inane.

As someone earlier said, stop thinking about this as skaters and see the bigger picture. We're on the section of the forum rightly called useless wooden toy banter. Being disturbed whilst playing with said toy is not reason to mangle someone else. Yes, clearly the security guard COULD have initiated the physical confrontation somehow, but if he was being truly aggressive, wouldn't we have heard something? All we have is tkp mysteriously alluding to what his pals told him, which is not convincing given the video that has been posted.

No matter what happens legally, as human beings it is entirely reasonable to acknowledge this was entirely unnecessary.

[essal]

Who’s got the second video angle?
I’m thinking it’s not gonna prove shit.

This is what happened.

> guard tries to grab someone’s skateboard to take it away, that’s not something that requires psyical self defense.

>He goes to take the skateboard and is then attacked by a whole group of guys.

>piece of shit skater punches guard while he’s already fallen to the ground

> guard gets up and is hit again and knocked out then smacks his head on the ground


>Guard didn’t throw the first punch
>tries to grab the skateboard and is then asullted to the point of never being able to recognize his family again.

the video might prove that jessie didn't start it, but one of the other goonies did. yet jessie didn't defend himself against shit, he basically attempted to murder a guy.

as much as ill miss the gx dudes, lock them all up.

[Prison Wallet]

The GX vid was a banger--best vid of the year IMHO. But I can't help but think the popularity of the vid emboldened them to escalate shit. It would have been nice if skateboarding collectively would have called out the fucking with security/homeowners. There were some posts here and there calling it out skateboarding as a whole as embraced the fuck yeah hellride 1-8. Those foos are in for a hell ride no doubt.

[planman]

^You gotta change your name to Jesse Viera's Wallet now

[ChrisLambe94]

I heard people are beefing hard as fuck in Pelican Bay to see who gives him his first tear drop face tattoo. Riots in San Quentin I guess.

[Sarcasm]

Im not touching this subject with a ten foot stick.

[spanyard]

10 foot road gap

[GeorgeCostanza]

The GX vid was a banger--best vid of the year IMHO. But I can't help but think the popularity of the vid emboldened them to escalate shit. It would have been nice if skateboarding collectively would have called out the fucking with security/homeowners. There were some posts here and there calling it out skateboarding as a whole as embraced the fuck yeah hellride 1-8. Those foos are in for a hell ride no doubt.

With you on this, a bunch of posters in this thread were hailing the video as a pure representation of skateboarding and saying how great it was that a video like this came out in 2018 but there's a lot of bullshit in there that rubbed me the wrong way - knocking over that security guard on the bs lipslide is fucked.

[nopes]

i keep thinking about the video from gx that is being presented as evidence and wondering how much laughing is in it. hopefully none but it seems like there always is when skate clips show altercations like this.

[stokedtrout]

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The GX vid was a banger--best vid of the year IMHO. But I can't help but think the popularity of the vid emboldened them to escalate shit. It would have been nice if skateboarding collectively would have called out the fucking with security/homeowners. There were some posts here and there calling it out skateboarding as a whole as embraced the fuck yeah hellride 1-8. Those foos are in for a hell ride no doubt.

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With you on this, a bunch of posters in this thread were hailing the video as a pure representation of skateboarding and saying how great it was that a video like this came out in 2018 but there's a lot of bullshit in there that rubbed me the wrong way - knocking over that security guard on the bs lipslide is fucked.

It was a game of chicken where no one backed down, and the security guard came off second best. There's nothing fucked about it.

[geturfaxstraight]

Maybe instead of sitting on your technology and gossiping you people should instead use your brainpower to realize you're being spoon fed information through what you read online and see in the news. Seriously, everyone here is talking like they are certain of what happened and are so quick to boycott a group of people and spread negativity. All the information you're working off of is what is being debated in the court room, how the news interprets it into an "interesting" story, and peoples reactions from those news stories, and so on and so forth.  No one here knows what actually happened.

[planman]

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The GX vid was a banger--best vid of the year IMHO. But I can't help but think the popularity of the vid emboldened them to escalate shit. It would have been nice if skateboarding collectively would have called out the fucking with security/homeowners. There were some posts here and there calling it out skateboarding as a whole as embraced the fuck yeah hellride 1-8. Those foos are in for a hell ride no doubt.

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With you on this, a bunch of posters in this thread were hailing the video as a pure representation of skateboarding and saying how great it was that a video like this came out in 2018 but there's a lot of bullshit in there that rubbed me the wrong way - knocking over that security guard on the bs lipslide is fucked.

What else rubbed you the wrong way? I don't think there's a lot in there in terms of being dicks to people compared to a lot of their others. I think the security guard was more at fault with that back lip though. Not very smart to stand in front a skater going fast on some stairs when he clearly can't/won't slow down.

[Alan]

Maybe instead of sitting on your technology and gossiping you people should instead use your brainpower to realize you're being spoon fed information through what you read online and see in the news. Seriously, everyone here is talking like they are certain of what happened and are so quick to boycott a group of people and spread negativity. All the information you're working off of is what is being debated in the court room, how the news interprets it into an "interesting" story, and peoples reactions from those news stories, and so on and so forth.  No one here knows what actually happened.

Ah, the "Wake up, sheeple!" guy has logged on.

[MKULTRA]

CTE1000

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[thebaggy]

      I've skated everyday for the past 16 years of my life. I've ran a security company for the past 3. I've experienced both sides of the conflict therein. What I've never done is subscribed to jock mentality, been a bully, or participated in gang violence; therefore I willl never understand what it meant to have acted the way these skateboarders did. 

      I find it sad that skateboarding as a culture is becoming the very thing that we distanced ourselves from in the first place: That is, a culture of ignorance. Our Identity as simply "those who ride skateboards" is often subjugated by the peripheral influences of violence, narcissism, and fantasy that the media propagates throughout the mainstream. We ought to remain autonomous. Fuck the berrics. Thoughts and prayers to him and his family.