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Re: Security guard beaten at SF Black Rock
« Reply #1140 on: February 03, 2019, 12:42:09 PM »
The only footage that I have seen is from here on Twitter.

Is there more footage of the altercation that is available to the public that I'm not aware of? If so, please share it.
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Re: Security guard beaten at SF Black Rock
« Reply #1141 on: February 03, 2019, 02:58:05 PM »
The only footage that I have seen is from here on Twitter.

Is there more footage of the altercation that is available to the public that I'm not aware of? If so, please share it.

it hasn’t been released yet

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Re: Security guard beaten at SF Black Rock
« Reply #1142 on: February 03, 2019, 03:42:11 PM »
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The only footage that I have seen is from here on Twitter.

Is there more footage of the altercation that is available to the public that I'm not aware of? If so, please share it.
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it hasn’t been released yet

Then there is a lot of sensationalism surrounding this. As far as I can see, Dan picks up the board and grabs a hold of someone's arm that is standing on the ledge and forcefully pulls them down. Then the fight breaks out.

So saying that the fight was instigated by anyone other than the security guard is complete bullshit. I could care less who disagrees. He didn't need to assert his authority by getting physical.

The outcome of this was tragic and fucked up. And one person did hit him while he was down which was a pussy move.

I've seen people suggesting that a sea of skaters bombarded him while he was putting out the barriers. Which also isn't true. A lot of them were nonchalantly skating around and no one seemed to care that he was even there. The only time you see people go after him is when he yanks the skater off the ledge and starts a physical altercation.

As I said, this is tragic. But dismissing Dan's actions that lead to the altercation isn't getting anyone anywhere. Just because he was severely injured during the incident doesn't mean he wasn't also responsible for things going South.
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Re: Security guard beaten at SF Black Rock
« Reply #1143 on: February 03, 2019, 03:50:35 PM »
And we are back to victim blaming. Smh

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Re: Security guard beaten at SF Black Rock
« Reply #1144 on: February 03, 2019, 04:09:03 PM »
And we are back to victim blaming. Smh
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Re: Security guard beaten at SF Black Rock
« Reply #1145 on: February 03, 2019, 05:22:16 PM »
And we are back to victim blaming. Smh

Where do you see victim blaming in my post? People are acting like he was attacked without provocation.

I'm do not take sides. I don't condone the violence that went down, nor that a man's life is ruined because of it.

But stop acting like everyone isn't to blame for this shit going down. It's not cut and dry. People fucked up and a man almost died as a result.

As someone suggested that I just jumped on to give my bullshit opinion, I've read every post in this thread, since day one.
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Re: Security guard beaten at SF Black Rock
« Reply #1146 on: February 03, 2019, 06:30:21 PM »
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And we are back to victim blaming. Smh
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Where do you see victim blaming in my post?

As far as I can see, Dan picks up the board and grabs a hold of someone's arm that is standing on the ledge and forcefully pulls them down. Then the fight breaks out.

So saying that the fight was instigated by anyone other than the security guard is complete bullshit. I could care less who disagrees. He didn't need to assert his authority by getting physical.




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Re: Security guard beaten at SF Black Rock
« Reply #1147 on: February 03, 2019, 07:39:57 PM »
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And we are back to victim blaming. Smh
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Where do you see victim blaming in my post?
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As far as I can see, Dan picks up the board and grabs a hold of someone's arm that is standing on the ledge and forcefully pulls them down. Then the fight breaks out.

So saying that the fight was instigated by anyone other than the security guard is complete bullshit. I could care less who disagrees. He didn't need to assert his authority by getting physical.
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Nice try, but still doesn't convince me that I was blaming the victim. If it has to be explained to you, victim blaming would be an innocent person walking down the street and getting jumped then saying "They should have known not to walk down that street".

Pull your heads out of your ass.
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Re: Security guard beaten at SF Black Rock
« Reply #1148 on: February 06, 2019, 03:50:00 PM »
New fundraiser for Jesse's legal fees

Source: https://skatenewswire.com/jesse-vieira-black-rock-security-guard-assault/


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Re: Security guard beaten at SF Black Rock
« Reply #1149 on: February 06, 2019, 03:53:00 PM »
welcome to page 38
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Re: Security guard beaten at SF Black Rock
« Reply #1150 on: February 06, 2019, 04:06:55 PM »
welcome to page 38

Ah thanks I did not know the new fundraiser was posted on page 38.

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Re: Security guard beaten at SF Black Rock
« Reply #1151 on: February 06, 2019, 04:42:48 PM »
It'd be ironic if a car turned one of his boys into a vegetable during one of those hill bombs.

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Re: Security guard beaten at SF Black Rock
« Reply #1152 on: February 06, 2019, 04:45:44 PM »
It'd be ironic if a car turned one of his boys into a vegetable during one of those hill bombs it rained on your wedding day.
For someone w.no signature ur awfully hostile, & that is why I do this

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Re: Security guard beaten at SF Black Rock
« Reply #1153 on: February 06, 2019, 05:09:28 PM »
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It'd be ironic if a car turned one of his boys into a vegetable during one of those hill bombs it rained on your wedding day.
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Alanis, is that you?
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Re: Security guard beaten at SF Black Rock
« Reply #1154 on: February 06, 2019, 05:42:05 PM »
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And we are back to victim blaming. Smh
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Where do you see victim blaming in my post?
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As far as I can see, Dan picks up the board and grabs a hold of someone's arm that is standing on the ledge and forcefully pulls them down. Then the fight breaks out.

So saying that the fight was instigated by anyone other than the security guard is complete bullshit. I could care less who disagrees. He didn't need to assert his authority by getting physical.
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Nice try, but still doesn't convince me that I was blaming the victim. If it has to be explained to you, victim blaming would be an innocent person walking down the street and getting jumped then saying "They should have known not to walk down that street".

Pull your heads out of your ass.


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Re: Security guard beaten at SF Black Rock
« Reply #1155 on: February 08, 2019, 05:35:15 PM »
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Re: Security guard beaten at SF Black Rock
« Reply #1156 on: February 09, 2019, 02:02:00 PM »


had a hearing yesterday... next ones on 3/22
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Re: Security guard beaten at SF Black Rock
« Reply #1157 on: February 09, 2019, 04:39:18 PM »
Any you cry babies wanna give up ur copy of roll up holla at me
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Re: Security guard beaten at SF Black Rock
« Reply #1158 on: February 09, 2019, 04:41:56 PM »
Delatorre is still out of the country huh?

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Re: Security guard beaten at SF Black Rock
« Reply #1159 on: February 10, 2019, 12:56:29 AM »
This man made more money off a go fund me for almost killing some one then he did off royalties

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Re: Security guard beaten at SF Black Rock
« Reply #1160 on: February 10, 2019, 12:59:52 AM »
This man made more money off a go fund me for almost killing some one then he did off royalties
I was going to tell you that they deleted his GoFundMe and he got nothing from it, but I searched and they set up another fundraiser on a different site.

Up to 4k.

https://gogetfunding.com/jessevieiralegalfees/

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Re: Security guard beaten at SF Black Rock
« Reply #1161 on: February 10, 2019, 01:05:21 AM »
Delatorre is still out of the country huh?
It's called an insta-detox! And yes, he's having one, to answer your question



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Re: Security guard beaten at SF Black Rock
« Reply #1162 on: February 10, 2019, 01:09:35 AM »
Here is a theoretical situation:

A group of skaters show up to a downtown business and skate there. A security guard tells them to go about their day. The skaters say Shalom and continue on to the next spot.

It might sound radical, but if we could control our emotions, skaters could go about the skating without conflict.
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Re: Security guard beaten at SF Black Rock
« Reply #1163 on: February 10, 2019, 08:42:52 AM »
Here is a theoretical situation:

A group of skaters show up to a downtown business and skate there. A security guard tells them to go about their day. The skaters say Shalom and continue on to the next spot.

It might sound radical, but if we could control our emotions, skaters could go about the skating without conflict.

I get that violence is bad but come on are we going to start shaming skaters for not obeying security guards. I understand they're just doing their job but if skaters actually listened hardly anything would get done. Maybe this is an unpopular opinion now but don't think there's anything wrong with fucking with security guards, and no I don't mean bashing their heads in. Literally every skater has been in a situation where they're skating somewhere they shouldn't and this isn't going to away unless we exclusively stick to skate parks. If you want to take the high road and avoid conflict that's great you'd have to be a kook to think otherwise but don't think its fair to get mad at skateboarders for being skateboarders


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Re: Security guard beaten at SF Black Rock
« Reply #1164 on: February 10, 2019, 08:48:25 AM »
Here is a theoretical situation:

A group of skaters show up to a downtown business and skate there. A security guard tells them to go about their day. The skaters say Shalom and continue on to the next spot.

It might sound radical, but if we could control our emotions, skaters could go about the skating without conflict.

That would be ideal.

Here's another theoretical situation for you:

A skater is skating with his friends and a security guard grabs him by the arm and rips him off a ledge and starts a physical confrontation with him. What then?
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Re: Security guard beaten at SF Black Rock
« Reply #1165 on: February 10, 2019, 09:29:49 AM »
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Here is a theoretical situation:

A group of skaters show up to a downtown business and skate there. A security guard tells them to go about their day. The skaters say Shalom and continue on to the next spot.

It might sound radical, but if we could control our emotions, skaters could go about the skating without conflict.
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That would be ideal.

Here's another theoretical situation for you:

A skater is skating with his friends and a security guard grabs him by the arm and rips him off a ledge and starts a physical confrontation with him. What then?
Say we didn’t come fight and leave with Shalom

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Re: Security guard beaten at SF Black Rock
« Reply #1166 on: February 10, 2019, 09:41:54 AM »
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Here is a theoretical situation:

A group of skaters show up to a downtown business and skate there. A security guard tells them to go about their day. The skaters say Shalom and continue on to the next spot.

It might sound radical, but if we could control our emotions, skaters could go about the skating without conflict.
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That would be ideal.

Here's another theoretical situation for you:

A skater is skating with his friends and a security guard grabs him by the arm and rips him off a ledge and starts a physical confrontation with him. What then?
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Say we didn’t come fight and leave with Shalom

I actually agree with this premise 100%. But everyone has their bad days and can't always walk away. Then bad shit happens and only one person is held responsible.
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Re: Security guard beaten at SF Black Rock
« Reply #1167 on: February 10, 2019, 09:43:35 AM »


had a hearing yesterday... next ones on 3/22

Whats happening at these hearings? What keeps pushing them up?

Anyone think Jesse been diddled yet

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Re: Security guard beaten at SF Black Rock
« Reply #1168 on: February 10, 2019, 10:08:43 AM »
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Here is a theoretical situation:

A group of skaters show up to a downtown business and skate there. A security guard tells them to go about their day. The skaters say Shalom and continue on to the next spot.

It might sound radical, but if we could control our emotions, skaters could go about the skating without conflict.
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That would be ideal.

Here's another theoretical situation for you:

A skater is skating with his friends and a security guard grabs him by the arm and rips him off a ledge and starts a physical confrontation with him. What then?
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Say we didn’t come fight and leave with Shalom

The best way to approach these situations is always with shalom. You’re so much more likely to be able to come back and get your clip if you make a non memorable exit when you get kicked out.  Even if a security guard is being hostile, if you respond with shalom it’s very unlikely to escalate the situation.

This however doesn’t apply to the odd super citizen I’ve run into over the years that decides to enforce a no skating policy for the good of society. They get no shalom from me

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Re: Security guard beaten at SF Black Rock
« Reply #1169 on: February 10, 2019, 10:12:26 AM »
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had a hearing yesterday... next ones on 3/22
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Whats happening at these hearings? What keeps pushing them up?

Anyone think Jesse been diddled yet

Not sure how familiar you are with the judicial system. But this actually happens a lot. Both sides are legally allowed a certain amount of continuances for discoveries and such.
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