Strap in.
This has sort of turned into the giant mess I hoped it wouldn’t, but it’s a good reason to illustrate why.
Independent 149 forged hollow (8.5" axle):
+ 3.1875"
Thunder 149 team edition (8.5" axle):
+ 3.1875"
I'm not buying it (but can't measure because I don't have either).
- Deck wheelbase measurement (checked at both points, aka, the control. Used South Central deck. Why? Crazy stiff, no warpage, never exhibited any expansion/contraction)
Toeside,
Heelside,
- Checking your measuring method (aka, using a different tape measure. Another method used, start from the 1” line to get the clearest alignment to the centre point of your axle, then subtract 1” from your overall measurement). See the photos above, used two separate tape measures for each measurement.
- Get good light. Keep everything flat and parallel. Ask for help (not seen in these pics, my girlfriend assisting, making sure the tape measure is where it’s supposed to be while I snap pics).
- Toeside, Thunder 149 Team Standards,
- Heelside,
- Are the numbers the same? Cool if yes. If no, subtract the smaller dimension from the bigger, divide your answer by 2, add that to the smaller number, convert it to imperial decimal and you have your average. 14.25" deck wb. 17.375 axle to axle (or +3.125"). Same as on the Team Hollows where the original info came from, with pics.
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=88869.msg3065039#msg3065039- Compare a completely different setup to your control (Here’s where my Venture 5.8 casts ended up, my Hockey 8.5 with 14.25 wb, measured the exact same as on my DOA test board, both sides, with different measuring tapes).
- Commence arguing.
Also whoever said the Indy forged had a longer wheelbase. Very correct, and I didn’t know that. Indy Forged have the same wheelbase as Thunder cast. This is why it pays to ask questions. +3.125”
That said, while It’s cool to be skeptical, if you’re going to be contrarian, post contrary evidence, otherwise it’s just the truck thread, which we now have like three of going concurrently. If you’re not doing the necessary work to provide the data - measuring the deck wheelbase, making sure the tape measure you’re using is accurate, checking parallel points, then averaging out the numbers, knowing the simple math involved, etc - and willing to provide pics of all of that, well, it’s just people throwing numbers out there and if it’s wrong hoping someone will catch the screwup. It ends up being as helpful as that ‘skateboarding is my life sport’ blog, which had lots of pretty - and pretty dumb - graphs but zero photos of actual dimensions, just his conclusions.
I’m not going to post anymore of my pics here, but I will make a nice tidy (fingers crossed) place where they can be referenced once I get everything in order.
Don’t take any of this as salty. Just trying to be transparent about the methodology, and also why without controls (which you can make for yourself if you don’t like mine) this info is ‘meh’ at best.
Edit: Off by 1/16" in my fraction to decimal conversions on the Thunder Team Hollows. The 3.1875," comes from my original post in the truck thread. I'm rechecking that measurement now. I'm guessing the trucks were off center.
Edit 2: Yup, rechecked, the wheelbase for the Team Standard and Team Hollow are both +3.125". This is why we double check shit.