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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #6210 on: October 02, 2024, 03:41:14 PM »





Got a set of the adjustable wheelbase Ventures and skated them today on the shorter wheelbase.

The pop feels great - I’m more of an Ace/Indy guy.

Even on the shorter wheelbase setting you still get that nice baseplate slide on nose/tailslides.

Maybe I’m forgetting what Ventures are like (I haven’t skated Venture highs in a few years) but the grind is way better than I remember. 

I like them.

Damn, envious. I've tried the shorter hole pattern on my normal deck and so far haven't enjoyed it at all. Definitely stable, but the timing is just way different and it's been hard to adjust. Probably need more time on them, but my mantra is generally if something doesn't work in 30min it prob isn't worth a huge time investment vs just riding my shit.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #6211 on: October 02, 2024, 08:04:49 PM »
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will a nut fit in the space under the kingpin of the new
v8 baseplate?

i invert my kingpins but i couldn't do it on my vlights but i really liked them despite that


Most cast plates have more clearance under the kingpin area than forged baseplates, so I would imagine this would be the same.

A pic from the underside here (page 203) along with other pics:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=108614.msg4250346#msg4250346


I have seen people machine down kingpins and kingpin nuts just to fit more comfortably in forged baseplates, but it is a bit of work and I would think you need to know what you are doing.  Hint - taking off the underside of the nut and leaving the nyloc intact, but also not getting the nut too hot, which cooks off the nyloc as well.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #6212 on: October 02, 2024, 09:00:04 PM »
Quote from: rawbertson. [link=topic=108614.msg4260139#msg4260139 date=1727308100
imagine they put extra drill holes in the board , and you had these trucks?
lol i feel like you could massively throw off the timing of the setup
some people would probably love it. snowboarders.

I’m probably getting the v8 to hold the plates. Use them as templates when needed on whatever truck I’m currently riding. As bigger than expected boards arrive.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #6213 on: October 03, 2024, 12:53:20 AM »
Any info on when these v8s drop?

I have been running some 3/8 double drilled ventures I did myself for a few set ups now but an super curious to see how the v8s skate by comparison.

Got mine today. Took a week to reach Miri, Borneo Island.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #6214 on: October 03, 2024, 01:16:28 AM »
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Any info on when these v8s drop?

I have been running some 3/8 double drilled ventures I did myself for a few set ups now but an super curious to see how the v8s skate by comparison.
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Got mine today. Took  week to reach Miri, Borneo Island.



Are they hollows or just cast
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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #6215 on: October 03, 2024, 10:06:29 PM »
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Any info on when these v8s drop?

I have been running some 3/8 double drilled ventures I did myself for a few set ups now but an super curious to see how the v8s skate by comparison.
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Got mine today. Took  week to reach Miri, Borneo Island.


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Are they hollows or just cast
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Cast.

I got two sets the other day. Slapped one pair on a 5boro 8.25x14.25x32 and brought in both tail and nose. Feels great.

Slapped the other set on a Snack 8.125x14.12x31.75 and only brought the back truck in. Thanks for the idea Beach Chicken. Sometimes the small tails bug me. It's working so far, too. Before this, I was skating the new Royals ever since they dropped.

Dope. You break out the measuring tape yet and try the offset positions?
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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #6216 on: October 04, 2024, 01:33:38 PM »
are they gonna drop any v-lights of the V8s soon?

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #6217 on: October 04, 2024, 02:04:59 PM »
The actual offset of the new holes is 5/16" not 1/4". Total WB reduction is .625", which means if normal Venture are +3.25", V8 are 2.625", which means the narrowest WB of any trucks. I have a pic of the measurement and will try to edit this post once I figure out how to upload it.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #6218 on: October 04, 2024, 02:35:53 PM »
Ordered a set of 5.8s from the local. Should be in my hands tomorrow. Very stoked.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #6219 on: October 04, 2024, 03:40:23 PM »
are they gonna drop any v-lights of the V8s soon?


I would imagine that from what others have said, that the V8 is a stand alone truck, no hollow, no forged, no other options, but people can always mix and match hangers to change things up, as the hanger is a normal one, just upgraded baseplate with the extra holes and extra bits on the baseplate itself.

You can add in any hollow hangers, ti axles or 6.1 hangers, etc.  They come with 5.2, 5.6 and 5.8 normal hangers with Koston graphic on them at the moment.

Geometry and everything else is still the same.


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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #6220 on: October 05, 2024, 08:45:30 PM »
Got the v8s. Set them up on my april 8.5 which already has pretty long kicks (good for normal ventures lol).

They shrink your wb by a smidge more than 0.25 each truck, feels more like 0.3 or something. The visual difference is crazy.

Popping my board to pick it up feels really different. Feels really light, you just tap the tail, but the nose doesn't come up nearly as much. Normal ventures feel really explosive in comparison.

Can't skate right now so can't actually test it out. Not sure if its for me but will find out. Mostly worried the pop is going to feel too anemic but I don't mind the pop on aces so maybe it'll be fine. I feel like if they shrunk in the wb by maybe just 1/8 per truck (not possible I know), would be so perfect.

I can see this being really good for long ish wheelbase boards with short kicks.
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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #6221 on: October 06, 2024, 05:41:56 AM »
Got the v8s. Set them up on my april 8.5 which already has pretty long kicks (good for normal ventures lol).

They shrink your wb by a smidge more than 0.25 each truck, feels more like 0.3 or something. The visual difference is crazy.

Popping my board to pick it up feels really different. Feels really light, you just tap the tail, but the nose doesn't come up nearly as much. Normal ventures feel really explosive in comparison.

Can't skate right now so can't actually test it out. Not sure if its for me but will find out. Mostly worried the pop is going to feel too anemic but I don't mind the pop on aces so maybe it'll be fine. I feel like if they shrunk in the wb by maybe just 1/8 per truck (not possible I know), would be so perfect.

I can see this being really good for long ish wheelbase boards with short kicks.


Those two things you just said really hit home for me.


1. If they brought out a truck that was a single hole option that was more in the Thunder hole pattern, eg middle of the baseplate, I think it would work way better on some other boards, compared to the almost too far out and maybe too far in with the existing double drilled V8 baseplates.  That said, I know this is actually what some people like the most about their Ventures, compared to other trucks, so although it might be cool, I don't know how much interest there would be, maybe not enough to have two different baseplate options out there, or should I say THREE now with the regular baseplate, the V8 and if they did a middle drilled baseplate too.

2. It is all down to which deck any trucks go on and the V8 trucks are no different there, so something that had a longer wheelbase, I think would work much more comfortably with the V8 double drilled holes, as I tested it on a few options, or as per me being extra special right now, I have the 8.38 board with 14.5 wb with the back truck in and the front in normal position and I seem to find that works well, even though both kicks are now quite different.

At least having two options per truck do make things way more versatile, as I did find when I double drilled a number of baseplates which were good to swap in or out on different boards, just to see, especially seeing as they were boards I might not have skated unless I drilled the deck in as they just didn't work on existing trucks before I tried drilling baseplates.


Everyone can test and see what they come up with, if there are any "game changing" moments with certain boards, or as per the April boards, they work well enough with existing baseplates and don't need changing.

One board I have my eye on to test is the Real Jimmy Wilkins 8.86 with 15 wb, which should come down nicely, but that is probably not at all common in the scheme of things, at least for most people who don't ride boards anywhere near that big anyway.


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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #6222 on: October 06, 2024, 02:21:19 PM »








Took me 5 minutes to drill some forged baseplates, i don't like forged plates that much so i didn't care if i ruined them. Might have set the wb wayyyyyyy in....


I used the forged plates since the og holes are drilled different than the cast. Gave me more room to drill the holes more seperate. Plus they sit the hanger lower. FYI i used indy stage vii plates as guides and templates.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #6223 on: October 07, 2024, 06:28:45 AM »
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are they gonna drop any v-lights of the V8s soon?
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I would imagine that from what others have said, that the V8 is a stand alone truck, no hollow, no forged, no other options, but people can always mix and match hangers to change things up, as the hanger is a normal one, just upgraded baseplate with the extra holes and extra bits on the baseplate itself.

You can add in any hollow hangers, ti axles or 6.1 hangers, etc.  They come with 5.2, 5.6 and 5.8 normal hangers with Koston graphic on them at the moment.

Geometry and everything else is still the same.

Yeah good point, may try that. My current vlights still got some life in them but the stock purple bushings are busted up, can't seem to find replacements other than the loose venture bushings.

Is there a big difference b/w the stock purp vs loose greens? Or hard to get used to?

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #6224 on: October 07, 2024, 06:30:26 AM »
Loose greens is just a normal bottom and a Venture lo top

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #6225 on: October 07, 2024, 06:42:31 AM »
Is there a big difference b/w the stock purp vs loose greens? Or hard to get used to?
if you don't mind seeing kingpin threads (you'll need to tighten them quite a bit) for them to feel similar to stock bushings tightness (nut flush), then you're good.

with the loose conversion kit bushings & the nut flush, it was way too loose feeling for me (130 lbs)

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #6226 on: October 07, 2024, 06:47:44 AM »
Replacing Venture bushings in a nutshell:

Thunder and Slappy top bushings are the same height as Venture tops.

Indy bottoms are the same height as Venture bottoms.

Ace low tops are only 0.5mm taller than Venture tops.

Gotta mix and match some, but you can do it.


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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #6227 on: October 07, 2024, 07:13:56 AM »
thanks guys, appreciate all the responses/info! If I could, would gnar all  ;D

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #6228 on: October 07, 2024, 12:25:15 PM »








Took me 5 minutes to drill some forged baseplates, i don't like forged plates that much so i didn't care if i ruined them. Might have set the wb wayyyyyyy in....


I used the forged plates since the og holes are drilled different than the cast. Gave me more room to drill the holes more seperate. Plus they sit the hanger lower. FYI i used indy stage vii plates as guides and templates.
whats the new wb difference?
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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #6229 on: October 07, 2024, 02:58:45 PM »
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Took me 5 minutes to drill some forged baseplates, i don't like forged plates that much so i didn't care if i ruined them. Might have set the wb wayyyyyyy in....


I used the forged plates since the og holes are drilled different than the cast. Gave me more room to drill the holes more seperate. Plus they sit the hanger lower. FYI i used indy stage vii plates as guides and templates.
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whats the new wb difference?


The old baseplates were offset 3/8" for the second set of front holes / for any six hole baseplates.


So good that people are trying this and see for themselves, but I found that 3/8" was a little too much for both the wheelbase change and the front bolts, as people found in the early 90s when they wore off the front bolts of their trucks, but it is still good to try it and see what it can do.  At least Venture sit in a little more than Indy baseplates, especially forged plates too.

Besides the Chems wheelbase change tool, there are a couple of others on the market people have used to redrill trucks, more so than boards, but 1/4" seems to work nicely when I drilled out a number of baseplates.  It just takes a little more effort to get the holes straight when doing it freehand than if you use something as a template to drill through.

I also found once you drill a couple of holes, put bolts through to ensure the jig doesn't move before drilling the other holes.

All just part of the fun, I guess.


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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #6230 on: October 07, 2024, 07:37:41 PM »
nobody asked but nick matthews is running:
8.38 olive eagle
5.8 cast
53mm classics
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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #6231 on: October 07, 2024, 07:48:49 PM »
nobody asked but nick matthews is running:
8.38 olive eagle
5.8 cast
53mm classics

Wow. Ventures on a 14.5 wheelbase. That's wild, but I like it. I'm running 5.8 V-Lights on a DLX 8.25/14.38wb and it feels very good.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #6232 on: October 07, 2024, 08:08:16 PM »
nobody asked but nick matthews is running:
8.38 olive eagle
5.8 cast
53mm classics

Surprising seeing as a lot of stuff I’ve seen with him looked like he was on lows.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #6233 on: October 07, 2024, 09:16:55 PM »
Tried out the v8s in short wheelbase position. Normally skate cast hollows.

Pop is much quicker and lighter. Less delayed and explosive. Thats a good and bad thing. Skating smaller ledges felt great, taller ones a lil harder, board wouldn't follow my feet as much.

Ledge/rail/flatground took some calibrating, but not as crazy as I thought it might be. Nothing I used to be able to do that I completely lost. Just feels different. Also haven't skated in two months so that probably does not help

Did notice the longer nose/tail made sitting on smiths, crooks and some other tricks feel v different. Don't think its objectively worse, just need to adjust to the different feeling.

Manual point felt a lil nicer, dont really like how it feels on normal ventures.

Shorter wheelbase felt a lil slip out prone, used to having a stable boat kinda ride lately. Doing 180 tricks and rolling away from shit in general, had to think more about keeping my weight within the bolts.

All in all, its cool, kinda just feels like a light ace kinda pop except the truck is more stable and doesn't turn all crazy. Will probably get used to it more with more time.

My board (April 8.5) has a 14.4 wheelbase so it wasn't too bad. But it did make my nose n tail maybe a bit too long since they are already quite long. Maybe on some 8.5 with 14.5 wb and slightly shorter nose n tail would be great for these but I'm not going down that rabbit hole.

If I put these on a 14 inch wb board, I'd probably be fucked lol.

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« Reply #6234 on: October 07, 2024, 10:08:57 PM »
nobody asked but nick matthews is running:
8.38 olive eagle
5.8 cast
53mm classics

Did you witness this IRL cuz his recent footage is still on the brown eagle, Venture lows, and 52s

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #6235 on: October 07, 2024, 10:26:40 PM »
^Also keep in mind dlx can print graphics on whatever shape for their riders.

A bunch of my friends who work a dlx ride all kinds of shapes, production or not, that have random eagle graphics printed on them.

I've seen the brown misregistered on a manderson shape, black 8.12 eagle on some 8.5 shape, 8.62 cream eagle on some other 8.5 shape (or maybe it was the same one) just off the top of my head.

Nick Mathews is crazy tho so he could be ripping on anything and I wouldnt be surprised

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #6236 on: October 08, 2024, 05:03:37 AM »
re: nick matthews
thats the setup he is holding in ventures latest post
all of these theories might be right
but he doesnt strike me as someone who would pose
with another persons board

could very well be a different graphic printed
but the trucks are definitely not lows
and the wheels look like orange swirl classics
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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #6237 on: October 08, 2024, 06:59:30 AM »
love the nick matthews setup speculation! he, bdk, and willow, all have setups i want to know
from footage it has often looked like NM had venture lo’s, to me. maybe i was just seeing what i wanted too. the stock olive eagle, is a big board, and he does not look very large….

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #6238 on: October 08, 2024, 07:09:15 AM »
I asked Nick before deleting IG and he replied:

8 or 8.25
Venture Low Hollow
52 99 or 101

Also let's hope he wouldn't have hardware like that pic

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #6239 on: October 08, 2024, 07:23:34 AM »
love the nick matthews setup speculation! he, bdk, and willow, all have setups i want to know
from footage it has often looked like NM had venture lo’s, to me. maybe i was just seeing what i wanted too. the stock olive eagle, is a big board, and he does not look very large….

This has nothing to do with Ventures, but I see Willow around fairly often when he's not jetting around the world for Vans. He skates whatever 8.5 decks GX puts in his boxes, whatever Aces his shop sponsor sends him, and the biggest Spitfires he can get his hands on. Then he rides that setup into the ground. He's generally very nonchalant about his gear.