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[DarkPools]

Skated Mob religiously for years. Save for a temp deck that I got handed in a pinch that had Primitive or grizzly on it.
Never had any of these issues with mob. I'm always surprised to see people having these issues with Mob. Do yall live somewhere really cold and that's causing some of these issues? I'm in southern California so maybe that's why

Mob I got in 2022 and before did none of what these pals described.

Mob is definitely far from trash, though. My personal opinion is that Jessup is pretty bad (though it's likely not as bad I think/remember from skating it). Some of the worst out there, actually (not counting Ultra Grip since that's so new and I haven't tested it).

[Easy Slider]

I received two sheets of Jessup for free with an order of decks. These were super brittle. I usually ride Miles and rode Mob before but this Jessup is by far the worst I ever got. I assume these were old sheets or is this normal?

[Pasta Monster]

I received two sheets of Jessup for free with an order of decks. These were super brittle. I usually ride Miles and rode Mob before but this Jessup is by far the worst I ever got. I assume these were old sheets or is this normal?

It must be defective or it may have gotten ruined from not being stored in the right temperature range (if that’s even a possibility). I set up a board about two weeks ago, using a Jessup sheet I got from 2019-2020. It feels just like the Jessup I got from Uprise a couple months ago and not brittle.

[Easy Slider]

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I received two sheets of Jessup for free with an order of decks. These were super brittle. I usually ride Miles and rode Mob before but this Jessup is by far the worst I ever got. I assume these were old sheets or is this normal?

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It must be defective or it may have gotten ruined from not being stored in the right temperature range (if that’s even a possibility). I set up a board about two weeks ago, using a Jessup sheet I got from 2019-2020. It feels just like the Jessup I got from Uprise a couple months ago and not brittle.

Thought so, I guess that's why they gave it away for free.

Another question: Why come that my decks and shoes almost always need replacing at the same time (with one pair of shoes lasting two decks)? I hate having a new deck and new shoes at the same time but this seems to happen inevitably.

[Pastasash]

For the slappy experts out there, what is the best truck for slappy crooks? Been running Venture lights for a couple of years now and just started learning simple slappys. Seen plenty of people in my area do them every try in Ventures but I can't get into it to save my life. Probably has more to do with ability than the truck, but have been curious to test out other things lately.

[manysnakes]

For the slappy experts out there, what is the best truck for slappy crooks? Been running Venture lights for a couple of years now and just started learning simple slappys. Seen plenty of people in my area do them every try in Ventures but I can't get into it to save my life. Probably has more to do with ability than the truck, but have been curious to test out other things lately.

I did my best slappy crooks with Ace Classics, I think. I don't know if that's because that's what I was skating when I learned them and started doing them all the time, but that was my experience.

[Acid Drop]

What do you think? Could I get away with a Spitfire conical full wheel size of 58mm on a truck height of 50.675mm? 8 inch mini logos to be precise. I skate factory tightness and I plan on setting them up on a Welcome, Beauty on Atheme Deck 8.8".

[Candied cigarettes]

For the slappy experts out there, what is the best truck for slappy crooks? Been running Venture lights for a couple of years now and just started learning simple slappys. Seen plenty of people in my area do them every try in Ventures but I can't get into it to save my life. Probably has more to do with ability than the truck, but have been curious to test out other things lately.

I personally found thunders to work really well for slappy krooks. Although like manysnakes that’s what i learned them on so who knows. Venture lows too, they’ve got a great pinch. I find that for slappy krooks the smaller the truck the better (im on 7.75 trucks), because once you lock in, there’s less room for error. Idk I could be full of shit

[Mbrimson88]

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I received two sheets of Jessup for free with an order of decks. These were super brittle. I usually ride Miles and rode Mob before but this Jessup is by far the worst I ever got. I assume these were old sheets or is this normal?

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It must be defective or it may have gotten ruined from not being stored in the right temperature range (if that’s even a possibility). I set up a board about two weeks ago, using a Jessup sheet I got from 2019-2020. It feels just like the Jessup I got from Uprise a couple months ago and not brittle.

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Thought so, I guess that's why they gave it away for free.

Another question: Why come that my decks and shoes almost always need replacing at the same time (with one pair of shoes lasting two decks)? I hate having a new deck and new shoes at the same time but this seems to happen inevitably.

Jessup in general is a lot thinner than most other griptape, as well as it sometimes moving on your board in too much heat, or the edges coming away a bit, but I am used to that and wouldn't ride anything else.

Even boards I had set up almost 20 years ago with Jessup still feel exactly the same, so I am stoked on it, as it never loses the grit and stays the same, but the grit is finer than others and a lot of people are not fans of Jessup in general for various reasons.

Any shop or grip can have issues, storage, longevity or other things.  Some old sheets I have just fell off their backing paper as they lost their stick, others are fine and no issues from the same age.

At one point some people were saying it was terrible and I think there was at least one bad batch where the grip would just come apart too easily when I was going to grip boards, but that was a fair while ago now.


As to the shoes and decks question, I think if you stagger your use, get some shoes to a point and put them away ready for a new board if you don't like the new shoes, new board feel, but other times, having that first very chilled week of new board new shoes to wear both in nicely then everything works better for the whole time.

Easier said than done sometimes, but I guess some planning ahead might work to your advantage.  I can't talk - too many shoes and boards so swap and change whenever, but I know when shoes are just perfectly good, a new board is way easier to skate too.

[Lou Strux]

What do you think? Could I get away with a Spitfire conical full wheel size of 58mm on a truck height of 50.675mm? 8 inch mini logos to be precise. I skate factory tightness and I plan on setting them up on a Welcome, Beauty on Atheme Deck 8.8".

How many risers you plan on stacking under those things?
Asking, on account of that sounds like wheelbite city to me, unless you’re planning on bolstering that truck height a bit.

[LebowskisRug]

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For the slappy experts out there, what is the best truck for slappy crooks? Been running Venture lights for a couple of years now and just started learning simple slappys. Seen plenty of people in my area do them every try in Ventures but I can't get into it to save my life. Probably has more to do with ability than the truck, but have been curious to test out other things lately.

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I did my best slappy crooks with Ace Classics, I think. I don't know if that's because that's what I was skating when I learned them and started doing them all the time, but that was my experience.

Thunders for me. Venture grind is too slow/harsh and I have to push them more, Indy pinch isn't as good. But it's really nitpicking

[goodatmeth]

What do you think? Could I get away with a Spitfire conical full wheel size of 58mm on a truck height of 50.675mm? 8 inch mini logos to be precise. I skate factory tightness and I plan on setting them up on a Welcome, Beauty on Atheme Deck 8.8".

Well no, why the 8" trucks on the 8.8 deck? It might work on a 8" and below deck because of the concave.
If you meant to type 8.75 trucks, then I'm gonna say maybe.

The solution for any size: Grind wheel wells into the deck.

My gf rides 54mm on 8.38 mini logos on 8.25 without risers and it's crazy how there's absolutely no wheelbite when I ride her board, so 56mm would probably still work.

[Acid Drop]

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What do you think? Could I get away with a Spitfire conical full wheel size of 58mm on a truck height of 50.675mm? 8 inch mini logos to be precise. I skate factory tightness and I plan on setting them up on a Welcome, Beauty on Atheme Deck 8.8".

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How many risers you plan on stacking under those things?
Asking, on account of that sounds like wheelbite city to me, unless you’re planning on bolstering that truck height a bit.

Thank you for replying to my question. I have another question; What do you think would be the maximum size wheel I could pair with the mini-logos on a 1/8 riser. I'm 126 pounds 5'7 height so, like, a small-medium sized skater I guess.

[jakeumms]

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What do you think? Could I get away with a Spitfire conical full wheel size of 58mm on a truck height of 50.675mm? 8 inch mini logos to be precise. I skate factory tightness and I plan on setting them up on a Welcome, Beauty on Atheme Deck 8.8".

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How many risers you plan on stacking under those things?
Asking, on account of that sounds like wheelbite city to me, unless you’re planning on bolstering that truck height a bit.

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Thank you for replying to my question. I have another question; What do you think would be the maximum size wheel I could pair with the mini-logos on a 1/8 riser. I'm 126 pounds 5'7 height so, like, a small-medium sized skater I guess.

Max maybe 56mm? 1/8th of an inch translates to just over 3mms so rounding ML trucks up to 51mm plus the 3mm for the risers puts you at 54. Indy signs off on 56mm wheels for their 55m high trucks but you sound pretty light.

[Mbrimson88]

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What do you think? Could I get away with a Spitfire conical full wheel size of 58mm on a truck height of 50.675mm? 8 inch mini logos to be precise. I skate factory tightness and I plan on setting them up on a Welcome, Beauty on Atheme Deck 8.8".

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How many risers you plan on stacking under those things?
Asking, on account of that sounds like wheelbite city to me, unless you’re planning on bolstering that truck height a bit.

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Thank you for replying to my question. I have another question; What do you think would be the maximum size wheel I could pair with the mini-logos on a 1/8 riser. I'm 126 pounds 5'7 height so, like, a small-medium sized skater I guess.

It is also down to bushing hardness / truck tightness.

There are people (who skate vert ramps) on 60mm wheels on lowish trucks and never wheelbite, but their bushings are more often on the harder side or there is almost zero turn to their trucks.

Not quite that much for any other more normal skate setup, but if you have tigher trucks or are very light on normal / stock bushings, you can get away with almost anything.


What I would say is set up your board how you want to first, then add a riser (or cut wheel wells) as needed, but don't just charge at whatever you usually do.  Feel it out and see what works or what doesn't work when you just roll or even standing on the spot and lean heel to toe and see if they touch easily or only when you really push down on one side or not at all.

I would only ever add risers if it was needed when I felt that there was too much wheelbite or not enough clearance, as I do starting with the super thin DIY rubber sheet risers for forged plates / lower trucks, or taller risers for other options, eg 2mm risers on normal Thunder trucks with bigger wheels as I am more used to Indy height and clearance, but it doesn't hurt to try a setup first and then add risers as needed afterwards, if you do have issues with clearance or wheelbite.


Might be too much info, but depending on what you have available, or how much effort it is to go somewhere to get risers, longer bolts, or whatever other things you need, start with 1" bolts if you think you need risers and then you can change up / add 1/8" in easily enough to that mix, without having to order something or make a trip to a shop.

Also if you have that as an existing setup and are getting bigger wheels, measure the wheels you have on the board now and then factor in the addition to see if you have more or less clearance than expected.

[Acid Drop]

I thought they were 47.5mm tall



I like riding risers because it gives more turning leverage on carves and makes rolling over things easier and smoother. I think I would like to try a 58mm wheel. If I need to rise the trucks up more I can do that but being only 8 inch I don't want to make them unstable. I will give it more thought. Thank you.

[Tom Pearl]

why has vans jacked the price of half cabs up $15 in a little over a year?


when i first got into half cabs at the very end of 2021 they were $70, i just checked the vans website and now they're $85


fuck you vans

[Idk]

why has vans jacked the price of half cabs up $15 in a little over a year?


when i first got into half cabs at the very end of 2021 they were $70, i just checked the vans website and now they're $85


fuck you vans

Because 2 years ago only people who knew how good a skate shoe the Halfcab was would buy it. Then Reynolds got on Vans and the pandemic happened and everyone who skated when they were 14 tried to get back into it and it became the trendy hot shoe. Everyone at the skate park has them now.

[manysnakes]

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why has vans jacked the price of half cabs up $15 in a little over a year?


when i first got into half cabs at the very end of 2021 they were $70, i just checked the vans website and now they're $85


fuck you vans

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Because 2 years ago only people who knew how good a skate shoe the Halfcab was would buy it. Then Reynolds got on Vans and the pandemic happened and everyone who skated when they were 14 tried to get back into it and it became the trendy hot shoe. Everyone at the skate park has them now.

That super underground shoe, The Half Cab.

[shawngreg]

does anyone know of a pant like 874s that are 100% cotton?

[manysnakes]

does anyone know of a pant like 874s that are 100% cotton?

Not identical or anything, but Carhartt B11 are pretty similar.

[rawbertson.]

has anyone ever done heelflip bs 5050 on a handrail that anyone can think of / has footage of?

[Aquatic Dinosaur]

has anyone ever done heelflip bs 5050 on a handrail that anyone can think of / has footage of?

Not a rail but hubba hideout comes to mind.  There’s gotta be one on a rail somewhere

[backside_frontside]

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has anyone ever done heelflip bs 5050 on a handrail that anyone can think of / has footage of?

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Not a rail but hubba hideout comes to mind.  There’s gotta be one on a rail somewhere

That’s a Neen trick 100%. I feel like he did one in the newest Deathwish full length. Uncrossed I think?

[rawbertson.]

yeah marcus mcbride heelflip bs 5050 hubba hideout lol i have seen so many variation like sw heel crook on handrail, nollie heel bs 5-0, heelflip fs 5-0 but cant find that one lol someone claiming to me its nbd . oh also manny did heel varial to 5050 and other variations too

[tzhangdox]

yeah marcus mcbride heelflip bs 5050 hubba hideout lol i have seen so many variation like sw heel crook on handrail, nollie heel bs 5-0, heelflip fs 5-0 but cant find that one lol someone claiming to me its nbd . oh also manny did heel varial to 5050 and other variations too

I'm almost positive tiago did a heelflip back 5050 on this one round rail in NYC but I dont remember which video its from

[big_kev_215]

For the slappy experts out there, what is the best truck for slappy crooks? Been running Venture lights for a couple of years now and just started learning simple slappys. Seen plenty of people in my area do them every try in Ventures but I can't get into it to save my life. Probably has more to do with ability than the truck, but have been curious to test out other things lately.

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I learned slappy crooks on Aces and I’m currently skating Ventures.  I actually think pinching them is easier on Ventures.  It (I think do to the geometry of the truck) feels like less effort to fully lock into crooks on Ventures and stay properly locked in.  Obviously Aces (especially the classics) have a bit of a smoother-feeling grind though. 

[Easy Slider]

Indys work fine for slappy crooks, can‘t compare it tho because that‘s all I run.

Other Q: I have new wheels,trucks and bearings. Should I set up a Christmas complete or set up the old deck first, considering the next deck is identical shape and also the wheels are the same (just new), trucks are 144 instead of 149 but both forged hollows? The deck is nearing the end of its lifespan but has a few sessions left.

[moonordie]

Indys work fine for slappy crooks, can‘t compare it tho because that‘s all I run.

Other Q: I have new wheels,trucks and bearings. Should I set up a Christmas complete or set up the old deck first, considering the next deck is identical shape and also the wheels are the same (just new), trucks are 144 instead of 149 but both forged hollows? The deck is nearing the end of its lifespan but has a few sessions left.

Option B for me would be the one.

[Easy Slider]

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Indys work fine for slappy crooks, can‘t compare it tho because that‘s all I run.

Other Q: I have new wheels,trucks and bearings. Should I set up a Christmas complete or set up the old deck first, considering the next deck is identical shape and also the wheels are the same (just new), trucks are 144 instead of 149 but both forged hollows? The deck is nearing the end of its lifespan but has a few sessions left.

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Option B for me would be the one.

Cheers, that’s exactly what I did. Going to try out the set up now!