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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #2400 on: January 19, 2023, 04:07:53 PM »
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How are people storing decks? I bought some heavy duty 10"x36" plastic bags to keep some of my collection in, but I'm not sure whether to keep them in the original shrink wrap or remove from the shrink before bagging. I feel like I saw someone say the original shrink can pull the graphic off after a certain amount of time. I keep them stacked horizontally in a box in the closet so temperature wise it's super stable and I've been using paper to separate them but the bags should help protect them.

@Mbrimson88 what do you think?
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I have also heard some people say the shrink wrap on heat transfers is not such a good thing, but I have never seen anyone with issues with them, that I can recall.

Quite a few of the main reissue brands don't have those sort of boards in shrink and have them in thicker poly bags, so there could be something with that.  They are also usually the screen printed boards too, but in general shrink wrap is a good protective layer between the board, the graphic and whatever else comes at them from the outside world.

Not to mention that boards NOT in shrink look a whole lot better when displayed or even just to look at, smell, touch, etc.  Yes at least one collector I know loves to smell them when he gets them out of their bags to do whatever he does.  Whatever hey?!?

At least storage, flat in boxes is the usual go to, for me not going as far as taping up the boxes securely after every time you open one, but I know on rainy days, it is not a good idea to go through boards, or anything else, for that matter, even though it might seem like the best day to get boards out and look through them cause you can't skate.  Too much moisture in the air will get into everything.

I used to have grip backing sheets between a lot of them, before I ended up with a lot of plastic bags to put each deck in, which worked well enough, but again some people say that is not a good idea - still scratching the graphics or whatever, but again, I don't think I have ever had issues.

Yeah that all makes sense. I have some boards I displayed that are out of shrink and some that are still in shrink so I was a little bit torn about what to do. And of course part of me wants some consistency whether they're all in wrap or just in bags. I'll probably just keep the boards that are shrinked still in the shrink, and use the ziploc bag as an extra layer of protection
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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #2401 on: January 19, 2023, 04:14:10 PM »
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I know someone has mentioned this before somewhere but has anyone tried the DLX 8.38 14.5 WB shape with thunder 149s and 1/8th risers? I have a few in my stack (roman numeral 1) and am debating putting thunders or aces on them. I also have indy hollow forged. Any advice would be appreciated.
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Yes, same as what I usually ride nowdays, and tried them on every truck just to see. 

More than anything it is the truck itself that you are either going to be used to or not so used to, along with the wheelbase, given they are 14.5 which to some people is already too long, they definitely feel a bit more "lengthy" on Thunders and Ventures, than on Ace or Indy, but there are people who ride them on whatever truck and do not have any issues, eg Kyle Walker and Chima are on that shape on Thunders.  Adding a riser is not going to change a whole lot to the overall feel, just a little higher and less wheelbite.

The shape has a slightly shorter / smaller tail than some boards, so although I prefer Thunders on the 8.5 with 14.38 wb and Indy on the 8.38 with 14.5 wb, there is nothing to say they will not work on either board, with whatever combination of trucks too.

For me - Indy standard trucks, no risers, but for Thunder trucks, I always add risers, just to have a little more room.

I am also old / lazy so I prefer more mellow boards and will park on the kicks just to flatten out anything other than IV marked boards, but I have skated steeper boards from other people and not had a problem, again just down to what you like.


End of the day I would say set one up with Thunders and see how it feels, swap over to Indy or Ace if you feel like the tail is too short or too quick and then ride which ever one feels better for you.
thank you for the insight and response! i think i will go ahead and put the thunders on as i am already working in a nice groove on my set. excited to try it out with the 14.5. :-)

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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #2402 on: January 19, 2023, 04:23:46 PM »
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I know someone has mentioned this before somewhere but has anyone tried the DLX 8.38 14.5 WB shape with thunder 149s and 1/8th risers? I have a few in my stack (roman numeral 1) and am debating putting thunders or aces on them. I also have indy hollow forged. Any advice would be appreciated.
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Yes, same as what I usually ride nowdays, and tried them on every truck just to see. 

More than anything it is the truck itself that you are either going to be used to or not so used to, along with the wheelbase, given they are 14.5 which to some people is already too long, they definitely feel a bit more "lengthy" on Thunders and Ventures, than on Ace or Indy, but there are people who ride them on whatever truck and do not have any issues, eg Kyle Walker and Chima are on that shape on Thunders.  Adding a riser is not going to change a whole lot to the overall feel, just a little higher and less wheelbite.

The shape has a slightly shorter / smaller tail than some boards, so although I prefer Thunders on the 8.5 with 14.38 wb and Indy on the 8.38 with 14.5 wb, there is nothing to say they will not work on either board, with whatever combination of trucks too.

For me - Indy standard trucks, no risers, but for Thunder trucks, I always add risers, just to have a little more room.

I am also old / lazy so I prefer more mellow boards and will park on the kicks just to flatten out anything other than IV marked boards, but I have skated steeper boards from other people and not had a problem, again just down to what you like.


End of the day I would say set one up with Thunders and see how it feels, swap over to Indy or Ace if you feel like the tail is too short or too quick and then ride which ever one feels better for you.
Thanks for the insight and response! I think iím just going to go ahead and stick with thunders as iím beginning to get a nice groove in them. :-)

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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #2403 on: January 19, 2023, 04:25:36 PM »
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I know someone has mentioned this before somewhere but has anyone tried the DLX 8.38 14.5 WB shape with thunder 149s and 1/8th risers? I have a few in my stack (roman numeral 1) and am debating putting thunders or aces on them. I also have indy hollow forged. Any advice would be appreciated.
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Yes, same as what I usually ride nowdays, and tried them on every truck just to see. 

More than anything it is the truck itself that you are either going to be used to or not so used to, along with the wheelbase, given they are 14.5 which to some people is already too long, they definitely feel a bit more "lengthy" on Thunders and Ventures, than on Ace or Indy, but there are people who ride them on whatever truck and do not have any issues, eg Kyle Walker and Chima are on that shape on Thunders.  Adding a riser is not going to change a whole lot to the overall feel, just a little higher and less wheelbite.

The shape has a slightly shorter / smaller tail than some boards, so although I prefer Thunders on the 8.5 with 14.38 wb and Indy on the 8.38 with 14.5 wb, there is nothing to say they will not work on either board, with whatever combination of trucks too.

For me - Indy standard trucks, no risers, but for Thunder trucks, I always add risers, just to have a little more room.

I am also old / lazy so I prefer more mellow boards and will park on the kicks just to flatten out anything other than IV marked boards, but I have skated steeper boards from other people and not had a problem, again just down to what you like.


End of the day I would say set one up with Thunders and see how it feels, swap over to Indy or Ace if you feel like the tail is too short or too quick and then ride which ever one feels better for you.
Thank you for the insight and response! I think iím just going to stick with my thunders as iím getting a nice groove started on them. Iíll keep the Indy/Ace idea in mind though  :-)

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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #2404 on: January 20, 2023, 06:27:56 AM »
Anybody have issues with Mob grip lately?  My past 4 or 5 decks, I'll grab my board the next day and it seems like there is always an area or two that is bubbling up.  I've used Mob for years and never had this issue.

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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #2405 on: January 20, 2023, 09:57:26 AM »
Anybody have issues with Mob grip lately?  My past 4 or 5 decks, I'll grab my board the next day and it seems like there is always an area or two that is bubbling up.  I've used Mob for years and never had this issue.
cold outside, warm inside can have this effect
it seems MOB changed something because of Covid (formula or factory change)
or just a bad batch

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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #2406 on: January 20, 2023, 10:06:42 AM »
Anybody have issues with Mob grip lately?  My past 4 or 5 decks, I'll grab my board the next day and it seems like there is always an area or two that is bubbling up.  I've used Mob for years and never had this issue.
I only skate Mob and I haven't had this issue at all with mine.

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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #2407 on: January 20, 2023, 10:16:08 AM »
I've had issues with mob for about 3 boards in a row. I think that the glue needed heat. Like a hairdryer or whatever.

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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #2408 on: January 20, 2023, 10:50:47 AM »
Yeah, I think I'm gonna switch on my next deck.  It's just happened too much lately.

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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #2409 on: January 20, 2023, 05:38:32 PM »
I love my ace f1 lows and I want to turn my set of indys (donít know the model because I never care until recently) into lows for another setup but donít want to buy another set of trucks.  Can I buy forged mid hollow baseplates and do they even sell them separately?  I guess more importantly is the lower geometry of forged mid hollows in the baseplate or the hanger?


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Just saw on the nhs website the change in height comes from the hanger.  Leaving this here incase anybody else ever wonders.

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Would lower bushings lower the truck?
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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #2410 on: January 20, 2023, 08:04:20 PM »
I love my ace f1 lows and I want to turn my set of indys (donít know the model because I never care until recently) into lows for another setup but donít want to buy another set of trucks.  Can I buy forged mid hollow baseplates and do they even sell them separately?  I guess more importantly is the lower geometry of forged mid hollows in the baseplate or the hanger?


Edit:
Just saw on the nhs website the change in height comes from the hanger.  Leaving this here incase anybody else ever wonders.

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Would lower bushings lower the truck?


Changing the top bushings don't do much at all, besides using a significantly lower top bushing sometimes making the metal top washer stop on the hanger, limiting the turn.

Changing the height of the bottom bushing (or leaving out the bottom washer) will both change the height of the truck and the natural truck geometry, but by how much is dependent on the truck and what bushings you put in.


From that old Nine Club Ishod interview, he uses two top bushings on each truck, which definitely changes things a lot, not to mention blows out pivot cups more frequently, but that is a workable solution to his needs.

In trying the opposite, cutting down the top and putting that bit I cut off with the bottom bushing is an interesting one on old Indy trucks too, which makes them feel a lot more like Ace in the turn of them - so quick.

As to any other things, I know some trucks, like Thunder and Venture especially, if the bottom bushing blows out or compresses so much that the kingpin nut is almost touching the hanger and makes it really hard to get a tool around, which is why I have a spanner handy for those sorts of situations.  They can also feel very different in the turn compared to trucks that have the bottom bushing at full height.


As to Indy baseplates, they only sell the standard baseplates and the inverted kingpin baseplates, both the normal cast height, so if you want forged anything, you have to buy the whole truck set and swap things out, but some people might sell a set of forged baseplates separate to the hangers for whatever reason.  I have picked up a few sets from ebay over the years, the normal ones that is, not any for the new mid trucks with inverted kingpin option.


Indy standard trucks = 55mm tall, 53.5 with forged plates.

Indy mid trucks = 52mm tall, 50.5 with forged plates.

Indy low trucks (which they don't make any more) are about 50 / 48 from when I measured the sets I have, but I can't remember exactly now.

Yes it is all in the hanger, cause they are the same baseplates for whatever options, but the low truck set did have shorter kingpins too.

I talk too much about skateboards.  Sorry.

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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #2411 on: January 20, 2023, 08:09:57 PM »
I love my ace f1 lows and I want to turn my set of indys (donít know the model because I never care until recently) into lows for another setup but donít want to buy another set of trucks.  Can I buy forged mid hollow baseplates and do they even sell them separately?  I guess more importantly is the lower geometry of forged mid hollows in the baseplate or the hanger?


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Just saw on the nhs website the change in height comes from the hanger.  Leaving this here incase anybody else ever wonders.

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Would lower bushings lower the truck?

Not by much, and it will mess up the geo. Low top bushing is fine though, but obviously won't affect the height.
Forged baseplates will lower your trucks by 1.5mm btw.

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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #2412 on: January 21, 2023, 08:51:04 AM »
Thanks for the replies! Iíll probably buy a set of forged mid hollow so I have options in height, at least thatís my justification for spending more money

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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #2413 on: January 21, 2023, 11:32:06 AM »
where is Ellingtons shifty flip ? I just watched his baker 3 and baker has a death wish parts, can't see to find it, currently about to watch all of baker 2g in its entirety

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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #2414 on: January 21, 2023, 02:41:48 PM »
where is Ellingtons shifty flip ? I just watched his baker 3 and baker has a death wish parts, can't see to find it, currently about to watch all of baker 2g in its entirety

From the top of my head, I only remember a shifty flip from Szafranski in Baker 3. I don't remember a shifty flip from Ellington. Maybe in The Deathwish Video? Or in a Shake Junt video? Maybe even in the old Zero video?

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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #2415 on: January 22, 2023, 01:29:16 PM »
Do Indy riser pads line up with Ace? I've got spare parts sitting around and want to run some big wheels on Ace's but I don't want to buy more risers if I can just swap these

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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #2416 on: January 22, 2023, 01:42:59 PM »
Trying to find a recent video/ video part. Someone does wallie blunt on the Trader Vicís hubba in ATL. I thought it was in Play Dead but I canít find itÖ any clues?

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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #2417 on: January 22, 2023, 10:04:58 PM »
Do Indy riser pads line up with Ace? I've got spare parts sitting around and want to run some big wheels on Ace's but I don't want to buy more risers if I can just swap these

Not that well. I feel like Indy riser pads donít even line up with Indys. Iíve been happy with the Real 3ply wooden risers. Ace risers should probably work nicely also and then slotted ones like Bones (& Lucky? & Krooked?).

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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #2418 on: January 22, 2023, 11:20:47 PM »
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Do Indy riser pads line up with Ace? I've got spare parts sitting around and want to run some big wheels on Ace's but I don't want to buy more risers if I can just swap these
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Not that well. I feel like Indy riser pads donít even line up with Indys. Iíve been happy with the Real 3ply wooden risers. Ace risers should probably work nicely also and then slotted ones like Bones (& Lucky? & Krooked?).

From the tactics website in the details of an ace truck:
ď NON-COMPATIBLE RISERS
Risers from the following brands are not compatible with the baseplates of these trucks.

Diamond, Girl, Independent, Loaded, ParisĒ

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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #2419 on: January 23, 2023, 02:30:46 PM »
Which cupsole has the widest/highest toe area without heel slip? I went down half a size on #420 with no heel slip. However, both my pinky toes are mashed, the toe to the left of the left big toe is swollen, and the center toe on my right foot is almost as bad. The heel slip is bad if I go TTS. Does anyone have any recommendations? I’ve tried using thinner, Stance socks, but it doesn’t help by much. My toes aren’t as swollen but they’re more irritated from the rubbing between the socks and toe area.

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Any recommendations (preferably cupsole) for someone with fat toes but a narrow heel/back foot?
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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #2420 on: January 23, 2023, 03:37:37 PM »
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Do Indy riser pads line up with Ace? I've got spare parts sitting around and want to run some big wheels on Ace's but I don't want to buy more risers if I can just swap these
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Not that well. I feel like Indy riser pads donít even line up with Indys. Iíve been happy with the Real 3ply wooden risers. Ace risers should probably work nicely also and then slotted ones like Bones (& Lucky? & Krooked?).

Thanks, I found the same issue with Indy risers not lining up perfectly on Indy's too. Was just hoping to save a couple bucks but oh well. Probably gonna look into some of the real risers.

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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #2421 on: January 23, 2023, 06:59:13 PM »
This has probably been asked before but what is the sizing on the Ishod shoe? Im a size 9 in vans, emerica and lakai but with dunks or adidas I wear an 8.5.

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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #2422 on: January 23, 2023, 09:07:52 PM »
This has probably been asked before but what is the sizing on the Ishod shoe? Im a size 9 in vans, emerica and lakai but with dunks or adidas I wear an 8.5.

I got gifted a pair and I'd say they run TTS if you have a regular foot shape. I got a wide foot and got 1/2 a size up, there was a bit too much space at the front of the shoe but the toe box is snug. If I'd gone to my usual 9.5 the length would be right but too tight around the toes. Doesn't help that I have huge bunions.

In general I find Nikes and Adidas to fit narrower feet bests, same applies to their running / skate shoes.
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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #2423 on: January 24, 2023, 05:11:10 AM »
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Do Indy riser pads line up with Ace? I've got spare parts sitting around and want to run some big wheels on Ace's but I don't want to buy more risers if I can just swap these
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Not that well. I feel like Indy riser pads donít even line up with Indys. Iíve been happy with the Real 3ply wooden risers. Ace risers should probably work nicely also and then slotted ones like Bones (& Lucky? & Krooked?).
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Thanks, I found the same issue with Indy risers not lining up perfectly on Indy's too. Was just hoping to save a couple bucks but oh well. Probably gonna look into some of the real risers.

mini logo pads have oblong holes
they fit and are the cheapest

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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #2424 on: January 24, 2023, 10:35:08 AM »
Would those new Ace hollow bolts* with the grippers on the head be bad for setting up and taking off trucks/risers multiple times during the life of the board? I feel like those grippers would eventually wear the holes too wide for any hardware to be able to fit. 

* https://mesaskatesupply.com/products/ace-hollow-bolts-w-grippers-allen-1

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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #2425 on: January 24, 2023, 12:24:19 PM »
Would those new Ace hollow bolts* with the grippers on the head be bad for setting up and taking off trucks/risers multiple times during the life of the board? I feel like those grippers would eventually wear the holes too wide for any hardware to be able to fit. 

* https://mesaskatesupply.com/products/ace-hollow-bolts-w-grippers-allen-1

I made the mistake of turning the screw instead of the nut on one of those, it tears up the board.  If you keep the screw stationary and turn only the nut it should be good no matter how many times you remove or add the hardware

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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #2426 on: January 24, 2023, 12:28:56 PM »
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Would those new Ace hollow bolts* with the grippers on the head be bad for setting up and taking off trucks/risers multiple times during the life of the board? I feel like those grippers would eventually wear the holes too wide for any hardware to be able to fit. 

* https://mesaskatesupply.com/products/ace-hollow-bolts-w-grippers-allen-1
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I made the mistake of turning the screw instead of the nut on one of those, it tears up the board.  If you keep the screw stationary and turn only the nut it should be good no matter how many times you remove or add the hardware
Cool, thanks. My local just got some in and Iím a sucker for gimmicky stuff.

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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #2427 on: January 25, 2023, 05:38:31 AM »
i don't get it.
i don't see a function in these grippers, i only see those as making way for cracks
just like a splitter when you're chopping wood

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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #2428 on: January 25, 2023, 08:09:49 AM »
Which cupsole has the widest/highest toe area without heel slip? I went down half a size on #420 with no heel slip. However, both my pinky toes are mashed, the toe to the left of the left big toe is swollen, and the center toe on my right foot is almost as bad. The heel slip is bad if I go TTS. Does anyone have any recommendations? Iíve tried using thinner, Stance socks, but it doesnít help by much. My toes arenít as swollen but theyíre more irritated from the rubbing between the socks and toe area.

Edit (TLDR):
Any recommendations (preferably cupsole) for someone with fat toes but a narrow heel/back foot?

You might like the Adidas Pro Model, someone dropped off their lightly used pair at my local and I've been liking them. I laced them up all the way to get great ankle protection and they don't seem to have any heel slippage from that, and of course the shell toes gives you lots of room up front

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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #2429 on: January 25, 2023, 09:24:04 AM »
Anybody have issues with Mob grip lately?  My past 4 or 5 decks, I'll grab my board the next day and it seems like there is always an area or two that is bubbling up.  I've used Mob for years and never had this issue.

I think MOB is trash, not sure if it's just recently but it's awful gripping a board with it and always get persistent air bubbles.

Jessup Ultra is my go-to now and it's just perfect.