questions that don't deserve their own thread

[LebowskisRug]

I got one as a present and found that it's interesting but doesn't transfer. The fulcrum point changes on it whereas it doesn't on a skateboard. At first you become more aware of using your hips instead of upper body to stabilize and they do seem to make you more aware of subtle weighting but after that it kinda became it's own thing if that makes sense.

[DarkPools]

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Are there two kinds of skating switch depending on the directionality of you board? When skating switch I use my nose as the tail, and don't switch the board around to use the tail as the tail. Is the latter proper switch skating and the former a lesser switch skating?

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It is whatever you prefer. Most people skate the nose since they skate the nose when doing nollie tricks. When used as a tail the nose will hit the ground a tad faster, which is probably a good thing for many as they are not used to popping quite as hard/far with that leg.

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Uhhhhh, usually noses are steeper on standard molds than tails, therefore it takes slightly longer to pop off the nose for nollie or switch.

Unless, the boards you ride are closer to twin molds where the nose isn't as steep/equal to tail height.


I skate switch using the nose 90% of the time and notice ghost pops when I don't pop as hard because of the slightly steeper nose than tail. I still prefer it because I like the explosive pop it gives to balance out the lack of dominance in strength when popping off the nose. Plus comfort of familiarity of doing it that way forever.

It's more common to use the nose, but using the tail is not "lesser" just preference. People on twin shapes laughing at us with a "Yes." response to the "do you use your tail or nose when switch skating?" 

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Noses are usually much longer than tails, which means they often hit the ground at the same time or faster depending on the mold. It is a longer lever basically. On Polar decks for example a nose is often 7.125 and the tail is like 6.65 so you're talking a half an inch and the actual kick angle isn't much steeper.

Ishod talks about it a bit in his 9 club how riding a twin tail delays the nollie pop for him and this is why since both kicks are the same angle. When you're popping off the nose you actually would want it to be faster. You're traveling forward and the nose hits the ground like a shovel. Tom Asta's nollie video talks about snapping nollies faster than an ollie cuz if you don't snap them the nose will never lift up fast enough.

When you get into decks that have mega steeper noses like FAs and whatnot then this goes out the window.

While noses are generally longer than tails, nearly every board I've skated in 17.5 years: full, steep, mellow, tapered, etc. the nose always popped later than my tail. In theory you want it faster, but in reality, I've almost never seen a nose pop faster than a tail. Mathematically, even if the length is supposed to offset the steepness, it doesn't seem to actually translate to reality. My current 8.5 AH seems to be closer to timing in pop as my tail but definitely not faster.

I'm aware of Ishod and Asta talking about it, but I believe both of their points stem from technique of popping/placement more than the actual mechanics of the deck specs.

[Banned from the room]

Anyone know where to get decent argyle socks?

I had some ill wool/hemp ones once. I'd like to get a few pairs.

The mall has only ones that die super fast.

[Eric Dolphy]

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Are there two kinds of skating switch depending on the directionality of you board? When skating switch I use my nose as the tail, and don't switch the board around to use the tail as the tail. Is the latter proper switch skating and the former a lesser switch skating?

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It is whatever you prefer. Most people skate the nose since they skate the nose when doing nollie tricks. When used as a tail the nose will hit the ground a tad faster, which is probably a good thing for many as they are not used to popping quite as hard/far with that leg.

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Uhhhhh, usually noses are steeper on standard molds than tails, therefore it takes slightly longer to pop off the nose for nollie or switch.

Unless, the boards you ride are closer to twin molds where the nose isn't as steep/equal to tail height.


I skate switch using the nose 90% of the time and notice ghost pops when I don't pop as hard because of the slightly steeper nose than tail. I still prefer it because I like the explosive pop it gives to balance out the lack of dominance in strength when popping off the nose. Plus comfort of familiarity of doing it that way forever.

It's more common to use the nose, but using the tail is not "lesser" just preference. People on twin shapes laughing at us with a "Yes." response to the "do you use your tail or nose when switch skating?" 

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Noses are usually much longer than tails, which means they often hit the ground at the same time or faster depending on the mold. It is a longer lever basically. On Polar decks for example a nose is often 7.125 and the tail is like 6.65 so you're talking a half an inch and the actual kick angle isn't much steeper.

Ishod talks about it a bit in his 9 club how riding a twin tail delays the nollie pop for him and this is why since both kicks are the same angle. When you're popping off the nose you actually would want it to be faster. You're traveling forward and the nose hits the ground like a shovel. Tom Asta's nollie video talks about snapping nollies faster than an ollie cuz if you don't snap them the nose will never lift up fast enough.

When you get into decks that have mega steeper noses like FAs and whatnot then this goes out the window.

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While noses are generally longer than tails, nearly every board I've skated in 17.5 years: full, steep, mellow, tapered, etc. the nose always popped later than my tail. In theory you want it faster, but in reality, I've almost never seen a nose pop faster than a tail. Mathematically, even if the length is supposed to offset the steepness, it doesn't seem to actually translate to reality. My current 8.5 AH seems to be closer to timing in pop as my tail but definitely not faster.

I'm aware of Ishod and Asta talking about it, but I believe both of their points stem from technique of popping/placement more than the actual mechanics of the deck specs.

Just checked my current setup (AH) and the nose definitely pops before the tail. Standing on one kick then the other, the board is at a steeper angle when standing on the tail than the nose.
I’ve also noticed before that I’m more likely to ghost pop nollie-ing off the tail, for this reason.

[Mystical Leader]

Why is it that it's always twin tail and never twin nose?

Do anyone of you know any shapes that are twin noses?

[moonordie]

Why is it that it's always twin tail and never twin nose?

Do anyone of you know any shapes that are twin noses?

Deathwish has, I believe that AWS/Habitat also and Primitive should be releasing one soon.

[Banned from the room]

If I bought a flight board in 8.75 or 9 and re drilled the trucks would I lose pop from having such a big nose and tail.

There's nothing on this earth I want more than a big ass flight deck at this moment. But I don't want lethargic pop at all. Last time I redrilled a tail side of board it was not the best move at all.

What do pals think

[rawbertson.]

Why is it that it's always twin tail and never twin nose?

Do anyone of you know any shapes that are twin noses?

type in "Twin" on tactics (unfortuantely a lot of snowboards will come up...)

https://www.tactics.com/alien-workshop/kaos-8375-twin-tail-shape-skateboard-deck

that one is 7" / 7" true twin Nose AWS

https://www.tactics.com/welcome/clairvoyant-80-evil-twin-shape-skateboard-deck/black

6.75" / 6.75" welcome pretty sick

theres a bunch more i am too lazy to post but yeah take a look and you will find some. girl has some hybrid / longer ones as well but i think aws/ habitat / welcome were the main ones i remember being longer

[DarkPools]

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Are there two kinds of skating switch depending on the directionality of you board? When skating switch I use my nose as the tail, and don't switch the board around to use the tail as the tail. Is the latter proper switch skating and the former a lesser switch skating?

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It is whatever you prefer. Most people skate the nose since they skate the nose when doing nollie tricks. When used as a tail the nose will hit the ground a tad faster, which is probably a good thing for many as they are not used to popping quite as hard/far with that leg.

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Uhhhhh, usually noses are steeper on standard molds than tails, therefore it takes slightly longer to pop off the nose for nollie or switch.

Unless, the boards you ride are closer to twin molds where the nose isn't as steep/equal to tail height.


I skate switch using the nose 90% of the time and notice ghost pops when I don't pop as hard because of the slightly steeper nose than tail. I still prefer it because I like the explosive pop it gives to balance out the lack of dominance in strength when popping off the nose. Plus comfort of familiarity of doing it that way forever.

It's more common to use the nose, but using the tail is not "lesser" just preference. People on twin shapes laughing at us with a "Yes." response to the "do you use your tail or nose when switch skating?" 

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Noses are usually much longer than tails, which means they often hit the ground at the same time or faster depending on the mold. It is a longer lever basically. On Polar decks for example a nose is often 7.125 and the tail is like 6.65 so you're talking a half an inch and the actual kick angle isn't much steeper.

Ishod talks about it a bit in his 9 club how riding a twin tail delays the nollie pop for him and this is why since both kicks are the same angle. When you're popping off the nose you actually would want it to be faster. You're traveling forward and the nose hits the ground like a shovel. Tom Asta's nollie video talks about snapping nollies faster than an ollie cuz if you don't snap them the nose will never lift up fast enough.

When you get into decks that have mega steeper noses like FAs and whatnot then this goes out the window.

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While noses are generally longer than tails, nearly every board I've skated in 17.5 years: full, steep, mellow, tapered, etc. the nose always popped later than my tail. In theory you want it faster, but in reality, I've almost never seen a nose pop faster than a tail. Mathematically, even if the length is supposed to offset the steepness, it doesn't seem to actually translate to reality. My current 8.5 AH seems to be closer to timing in pop as my tail but definitely not faster.

I'm aware of Ishod and Asta talking about it, but I believe both of their points stem from technique of popping/placement more than the actual mechanics of the deck specs.

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Just checked my current setup (AH) and the nose definitely pops before the tail. Standing on one kick then the other, the board is at a steeper angle when standing on the tail than the nose.
I’ve also noticed before that I’m more likely to ghost pop nollie-ing off the tail, for this reason.

Odd, my AH deck I skated last night definitely had the nose pop later than the tail. I tested it with nollie fs 180, which for me, rely heavily on the timing of the pop to work as intended.

I personally don't believe that most noses pop faster than tails. That just doesn't make sense since their design (unless shortened/lowered to match the tail ) by default implies they pop later

[jsettle]

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Anyone currently or recently rode mini logo blanks? They have some on their site for 24 bucks right now. Are they any good? Are the painted ones better than the natural wood grain? Any positive and negatives to them from people who ride or have rode them? I hear they use the same exact wood they use for the non flight powell decks too which i cant speak for either. But with powells legacy in skating i figure they would be some what decent quality...or i could be wrong

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nope
minilogo blanks are made of birch
they just suck if you're not a beginner

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Nah, you are wrong.

Mini Logos boards are the same as Powell's wood boards.

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the detonators i have in front of me (natural) have a birch label and look thick ( i had a few colored ones a few months ago and same birch label).
Good for the price i guess but don't expect it to last as long as a board twice the price.

we're maybe not talking about the same "blanks"

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Interesting. That was not my experience.

Are these recent? Maybe the newest ones are birch?

I got my Mini logo detonator blank in the mail today and there is a 100 percent rock maple sticker on it. Just holding and looking at it, it seems better than i thought itd be. Quality seems pretty good and the shape is nice in my opinion. For 25 bucks seems worth it.

[munchbox]

If I bought a flight board in 8.75 or 9 and re drilled the trucks would I lose pop from having such a big nose and tail.

There's nothing on this earth I want more than a big ass flight deck at this moment. But I don't want lethargic pop at all. Last time I redrilled a tail side of board it was not the best move at all.

What do pals think

always go for the nose on a re-drill
fucking with the tail is an absolute no go

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If I bought a flight board in 8.75 or 9 and re drilled the trucks would I lose pop from having such a big nose and tail.

There's nothing on this earth I want more than a big ass flight deck at this moment. But I don't want lethargic pop at all. Last time I redrilled a tail side of board it was not the best move at all.

What do pals think

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always go for the nose on a re-drill
fucking with the tail is an absolute no go

heard a few folks talk about drilling the tail forward, and that always sounded terrible to me

i skated an april 8.125 x 14 x 31.8 ish. im sure it works for someone, for me it feels bad. the long nose/tail or something just feels wonky. i didn’t give it long enough to adjust to it


why do you want to re-drill? i ask because im currently scheming a big big board 8.75-9 pop, 6.1s or ace classic 55s and giant skateboard tyres. i had one previously and it was sick for hills. fuck it

[Mystical Leader]

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Why is it that it's always twin tail and never twin nose?

Do anyone of you know any shapes that are twin noses?

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type in "Twin" on tactics (unfortuantely a lot of snowboards will come up...)

https://www.tactics.com/alien-workshop/kaos-8375-twin-tail-shape-skateboard-deck

that one is 7" / 7" true twin Nose AWS

https://www.tactics.com/welcome/clairvoyant-80-evil-twin-shape-skateboard-deck/black

6.75" / 6.75" welcome pretty sick

theres a bunch more i am too lazy to post but yeah take a look and you will find some. girl has some hybrid / longer ones as well but i think aws/ habitat / welcome were the main ones i remember being longer

Nice, thank you and moonordie!

Weird that the aws has bigger tail and nose than the welcome one but it says twin tail on the tactics website...

I've had deathwish bloards and I've liked most of them so maybe I'll try one of those.

I'm still wondering why  twin tail is more popular tho. At least for me skating the nose makes the bloard feel quicker and it's easier/better to do slides.

[moonordie]

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Why is it that it's always twin tail and never twin nose?

Do anyone of you know any shapes that are twin noses?

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type in "Twin" on tactics (unfortuantely a lot of snowboards will come up...)

https://www.tactics.com/alien-workshop/kaos-8375-twin-tail-shape-skateboard-deck

that one is 7" / 7" true twin Nose AWS

https://www.tactics.com/welcome/clairvoyant-80-evil-twin-shape-skateboard-deck/black

6.75" / 6.75" welcome pretty sick

theres a bunch more i am too lazy to post but yeah take a look and you will find some. girl has some hybrid / longer ones as well but i think aws/ habitat / welcome were the main ones i remember being longer

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Nice, thank you and moonordie!

Weird that the aws has bigger tail and nose than the welcome one but it says twin tail on the tactics website...

I've had deathwish bloards and I've liked most of them so maybe I'll try one of those.

I'm still wondering why  twin tail is more popular tho. At least for me skating the nose makes the bloard feel quicker and it's easier/better to do slides.

You're welcome.
Maybe you'd like G69 and G96  (8.25 & 8.5) from Crailtap. Those are "twin paddles" which is intended to be a nose/tail hybrid.
Is a great shape.

[Sloppy Krooks]

If I bought a flight board in 8.75 or 9 and re drilled the trucks would I lose pop from having such a big nose and tail.

There's nothing on this earth I want more than a big ass flight deck at this moment. But I don't want lethargic pop at all. Last time I redrilled a tail side of board it was not the best move at all.

What do pals think

The board razortails faster than a normal board. I’ve had a couple. I love them (except for the WB)

I say ride it at 15 until it razors, sand it down, and then redrill it shorter for the longest board life

[goodatmeth]

If I use super strong double sided mounting tape, can I skate deck rails without screws? I feel like this should work easily. I don't care about ever getting them off again. It would just be my rail deck whenever I tell myself I need to try rails for something.

[Banned from the room]

Thanks pals.

Yeah I agree drilling the tail is a bad idea.

Im just ordering another 8.25 to 8.5 again.
Planning on moving up after new years.

It's cuz I got two pairs of 8.25 trucks I just found on ice.

Being we just dropped a several thousand on the album I can't justify bloard trucks and wheels.

Im pretty desperate to get off the 93a wheel. I gotta chose a wheel asap.

Xmas I'll buy trucks then new years I'll get a short stack of flights.

Also I kinda want that Truck beam by Sci Fi. It's so silly I gotta have it.

If it was just the beam and no trucks I'd have already copped. I seen the trucks on it and was like Lame! Why didn't they just leave the center beam reacting to your own trucks.

But I can't stop thinking about it. It's cute

[hiljentaa]

Apologies if you've already had one, but if you're looking at Flights, try one before you buy more.

I'm on one now, and it's a great board, but- expensive, razors faster, hurts more when it hits you, the heads of the hardware stick up- because of the carbon layer, and small chips suck because the top carbon layer peels with em...

[hiljentaa]

Apologies if you've already had one, but if you're looking at Flights, try one before you buy more.

I'm on one now, and it's a great board, but- expensive, razors faster, hurts more when it hits you, the heads of the hardware stick up- because of the carbon layer, and small chips suck because the top carbon layer peels with em...

Lmao, not even 10 minutes after posting this, I chip the tail exactly as described. Oh well, got a good run out of this board at least!

[Lou Strux]

If I use super strong double sided mounting tape, can I skate deck rails without screws? I feel like this should work easily. I don't care about ever getting them off again. It would just be my rail deck whenever I tell myself I need to try rails for something.

For best results, it is recommended that you employ BOTH double stick tape AND screws. Prevents some of that accursed “rail rattle” you get as the screws loosen over time.
The tape alone will NOT suffice though.
Sorry to be the bearer of bad tidings.

[Painted Baby]

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If I use super strong double sided mounting tape, can I skate deck rails without screws? I feel like this should work easily. I don't care about ever getting them off again. It would just be my rail deck whenever I tell myself I need to try rails for something.

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For best results, it is recommended that you employ BOTH double stick tape AND screws. Prevents some of that accursed “rail rattle” you get as the screws loosen over time.
The tape alone will NOT suffice though.
Sorry to be the bearer of bad tidings.

Put the drill down and get yourself a ratcheting screwdriver. Sink them in by hand and with the tape they are pretty damn permanent.

[Lou Strux]

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If I use super strong double sided mounting tape, can I skate deck rails without screws? I feel like this should work easily. I don't care about ever getting them off again. It would just be my rail deck whenever I tell myself I need to try rails for something.

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For best results, it is recommended that you employ BOTH double stick tape AND screws. Prevents some of that accursed “rail rattle” you get as the screws loosen over time.
The tape alone will NOT suffice though.
Sorry to be the bearer of bad tidings.

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Put the drill down and get yourself a ratcheting screwdriver. Sink them in by hand and with the tape they are pretty damn permanent.

100% agree: if you’re using a drill for anything beyond a lickle pilot hole, you’re gonna run the risk of blowing it by stripping the wood out.
Always install the screws by hand if you’re the sort who cares, or takes pride in a job done well.

[rawbertson.]

lol i did a set of rails by hand with this tiny screwdriver and i hated myself afterwards!!! my hands were killing! you have to press so freaking hard.

i used a drill and it was really easy but i didnt do it on brand new boards

i used the ratcheting screwdriver on another one and it was pretty manageable - that seems to me like the best way to do it

i think it is the kind of thing you sort of need to keep tightening over time and also you might get to a point like i have where one of the screws gets so grinded down you cant get it out again. so the rail is permanently stuck in there (and possibly loose)

so they dont last forever

lol if that 1 screw was ok i think these rails could be transferred to another board. debating drilling out the screw and then putting them in with 3 screws on the new board / try and find replacement screw

[goodatmeth]

I'm just gonna try it without screws. Bets are open, how long will they stick to the deck? Gonna skate a flatbar for a few hours tomorrow as a test. I say it's gonna work forever.

The double sided tape can handle 6 kg per 25 cm. The rails are 36 cm long, I've taped the full length and I really don't think there's a lot of force on rails that could rip them off in any direction.

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rain setup? who has it? any ideas? it’s not gonna be a lot of tricks, more just skating for distance in the rain. try to keep from becoming a total sedentary pos this winter

[Frank and Fred]

Super juices, with those SKF bearings that come greased to hell, and any old deck you are almost done with... 

[iw0]

rain setup? who has it? any ideas? it’s not gonna be a lot of tricks, more just skating for distance in the rain. try to keep from becoming a total sedentary pos this winter

whatever the girl in the crow had

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rain setup? who has it? any ideas? it’s not gonna be a lot of tricks, more just skating for distance in the rain. try to keep from becoming a total sedentary pos this winter

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whatever the girl in the crow had

‘….more like surfin’

[Plan9Customs]

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one of those citrus based cleaners. in australia it's called orange power, i'm sure you have something similar.

not having a go at you, but why do people want to regrip their boards?

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Bought a new unskated deck but it was gripped and I always do my scrap crap grip jobs. If I don’t it’s not my board.
@Mbrimson88 yeah, if I was going full grip it wouldn’t be an issue but there’s going to be lots of cuts so it’d just grab dirt and look like crap after a second of riding.

I’ve heard Ronson lighter fluid(liquid kind for zippos) can work on sticker residue but was hoping to hear from someone else that may have used it. If worse comes to worse I can just try an eraser wheel on it. I mean it works on cars for removing stickers, vinyl stripes, and double back tape but I’m worried it may burn the wood since it’s such a big area.

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Yes those in between areas end up a big mess.  Even when people don't peel off the warning sticker fully and the sticker residue leaves a mess in between racing stripes or similar, it looks messy.

I often pick up boards from others that are sometimes brand new, great deck, terrible grip job or just grip in a brand / colour / graphic or some weird thing on the grip that means the grip has to go, so off it comes and there is no way I can get a lot of whatever is still stuck to the board off, especially with Shake Junt grip, so although I still use pieces to give lines, I have zero gaps whatsoever on those boards.

That might be an option, although it can be a pain if you are cutting things up and like gaps between them.


Also totally get it when you say, if you haven't gripped it how you usually do, it is not your board - even having lines in different areas to where I often do makes a board weird to ride, like it is someone else's board and not my own.


Good luck with the process and I am sure as others have said, it would be interesting to hear / see results.

Got around to messing with this the other day. Goo Gone works great but it does leave an oily residue. Got rid of that with some wax and grease remover(a few good cleanings with windex and clean rags SHOULD work also). Took less than 5 minutes for everything.
If you go that route and use windex to get rid of the oil, try testing it on an old board with a scrap of grip to make sure it’ll stick.

[rawbertson.]

i agree with the super juices (softest, widest , most stable wheel possible) and whatever bearings and deck you dont care about cause i dont think theres mcuh you can do to save em.

You could put snow skate grips on as well because wet grip tape is not very reliable. Alexis Lacroix did this.

i was wondering if spraying the entire complete (maybe not the bearings...) with a galvanizing spray paint could keep it from rusting / seal the wood a bit from getting so water logged. i might try it this winter never got aroudn to it yet. the cans are pretty expensive for a weird 1 time experiment...