CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2025 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc

[Woodshop]

My DGK board from the sale bin feels like a Clutch board, steeper kicks, med concave, a bit heavy….

Does it have a letter / number combo stamped into the front bolts area?

I do seem to recall someone saying their Clutch board did not have that, but for the most part, Clutch always does that.


Not that I have seen current DGK boards, but everything I had seen was either BBS or China wood.  Of course that is not to say that they didn't at some point get some through Clutch, but I had not heard of them doing that, unless it is from post pandemic era when a lot of companies seemed to not have wood.


* Just looked through some other info and DGK colabs were often different wood, more so China wood, but still not BBS, which is weird, but could be that too.  What graphic is on your board?

[j....soy.....]

The graphic is beautiful, rosary beads, praying hands, ‘blessed’ in calligraphy, a pile of cash…..we’re talking top notch wall hanger here…..

It had the single notch marking on the top ply between the front holes which I thought meant BBS/Generator.  The price and the promise of DGK all day clouded my judgement…

[Woodshop]

The graphic is beautiful, rosary beads, praying hands, ‘blessed’ in calligraphy, a pile of cash…..we’re talking top notch wall hanger here…..

It had the single notch marking on the top ply between the front holes which I thought meant BBS/Generator.  The price and the promise of DGK all day clouded my judgement…

Does it have the "spoon concave" in the kicks, or flat faced kicks?

Maybe it is a China wood version, unless it had "Made in Mexico" stamp on it, which could still be BBS, just an alternate mold if it doesn't feel like a normal BBS board.

[j....soy.....]

Yeah, I’m looking at a BBS shop board and it has a very similar marking, and where the concave meets the nose is the same BBS wave vs. fingers of flat/kick so maybe it is.  I tend to end up on the mellow BBS boards ie. polar, isle, magenta vs. FA/Alien so maybe it’s just that….

[GumOnMyGrip]

Any UK pals know where Forecast has their decks pressed? Big noses listed on the measurements

[Woodshop]

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EDIT: Maybe not all, but at least one or more come up with the Clutch wood stamps, as per info below.



Curious as well, but those dimensions don't add up, from their site.

Nose + Tail + Wheelbase + trucks (4.25) = Total length, but in this case I wonder if they are measuring with the board on its back with the concave, cause I can't figure out any other way those dimensions add up to 33+ inches.


https://forecaststore.co.uk/products/eko-deck

Dimensions-

8.25 - Length 32.25, WB 14.25, nose 7.5, tail 7

8.5 - Length 32.5, WB 14.25, nose 7.5, tail 7

8.75 - Length 32.75, WB 14.5, nose 7.5, tail 7

9.25 KAIJU - Length 33, DOUBLE DRILLED WB 14.75 / 15.25, nose 6.75 / 7.5, tail 7



* Looked through some / as many shop listings as I could find and this one shows the board with two indents, most likely Clutch wood with the letter / number stamps in them.

I was thinking some of those wood stains looked like Clutch too, but that is not the best way to identify the wood, as some places might have access to the same dyes, but the brown and especially the dark green are often the Clutch colours I am used to seeing.


https://www.routeone.co.uk/products/forecast-sox-woods-stinger-skateboard-deck-8-6-001174531?variant=41251060514893

[TwisT]

I keep getting adds for this company out of Indiana. No clue where they come from, but are made in the USA. They have these sick dye jobs.

https://dropindistribution.com/

[TheCrimsonShroud]

I keep getting adds for this company out of Indiana. No clue where they come from, but are made in the USA. They have these sick dye jobs.

https://dropindistribution.com/

At first I thought South Central (they use American/canadian hard rock maple, so Great Lakes isn’t a stretch) but the wb doesn’t match up. Everything else looks like SCMF though

[Woodshop]

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Guessing Pennswood, going by the page info below, but I could be wrong.



https://dropindistribution.com/skateboard-decks/custom-skateboard-decks/


Unlike mass-produced boards from overseas, our decks don’t come out of some giant, automated wood shop. Every one of our skateboards is made in smaller batches, allowing for tighter quality control and greater attention to detail.

All of our decks are proudly made in the USA using Great Lakes maple for strength and durability. Each deck is pressed and finished in our Pennsylvania facility, where craftsmanship matters just as much as consistency. This hands-on process ensures the strength, shape, and feel of every board meets the standard we ride ourselves.

We offer high-quality blank and custom-printed skateboard decks with a 50-deck minimum per order.

Our standard mold features a mellow/medium concave, 14.25" wheelbase, and curved kicks—but we can adjust the wheelbase upon request to fit your specs.

[NihilandVoid]

Anyone got any ideas where Color Bars boards are made? I can’t find any clear info anywhere about it.

[Woodshop]

Anyone got any ideas where Color Bars boards are made? I can’t find any clear info anywhere about it.

I have seen some that have "Made in USA" stickers on them, but apart from that, I don't know where.

Listing and pic below so someone might know where these stickers come from.


https://www.hilltopskateshop.com.au/colour-bars-david-bowie-ziggy-stardust-812.html

[GumOnMyGrip]

@Woodshop  you’re the best. That’s all.

[Woodshop]

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Linking this thread, which is worth following from a Woodshop perspective.


https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=2860474.0


https://oksk8.com/

PS Stix will be closing production end of this week.

Ps Stix equipment is being bought by by a place just opening now up called OK Skate Manufacturing

And
 

OK SK8 will be producing all current left over orders  from PS Stix summer orders and as of the workers are moving to OK skate as well 

Idk where Paul is going yet ?

  Julio De La Cruz  .. is taking over Paul's spot .

R.I.P.   PS STIX

Wild to hear

Skateboarding is dying

  More and more each day

 

[moonordie]

That's a fucking terrible name but what do I know...

[HugeBodBoyle]

Rumor is that Crail is moving their production to BBS due to tariffs. Be interesting to see how that impacts the shape guide.

[neonbrown]

The story I heard from a shop owner (whom I don't consider totally reliable) was that during the Covid-era, between BBS and PS Stix, PS was the only one was was adhering to safety protocols, and as a consequence their quality declined. Meanwhile, BBS was throwing employees into the thresher to keep up with demand.

My recollection is that the quality was poor prior to 2020, and this guy is kinda weird, so make of that what you will.

[Woodshop]

The story I heard from a shop owner (whom I don't consider totally reliable) was that during the Covid-era, between BBS and PS Stix, PS was the only one was was adhering to safety protocols, and as a consequence their quality declined. Meanwhile, BBS was throwing employees into the thresher to keep up with demand.

My recollection is that the quality was poor prior to 2020, and this guy is kinda weird, so make of that what you will.

I guess I know nothing with regard to business practices of said woodshops, but I do recall hearing that Grant Burns from BBS did really look after his people and went out of his way to ensure they were all good before anything else.  This was from people posting their own stories and pics, not just from him or BBS accounts, so make of that whatever you will.

I can't really say I have heard anything much to either extreme (good or bad) about PS Stix although it is known that people have been laid off or employee turnover seemed to be a bit of an issue, along with quality control - at least that was not in question with a number of people stating their PS Stix boards had issues, were poorly sanded, badly shaped or whatever else was going on.

Your people are your number one asset, so looking after your people is the priority, then everything else should work out better, or something like that.

Where woodshops or operations are much smaller with only a few people working there, one person leaving or causing issues might be more painful overall, when compared to a much larger business with a good number of people, but even then, not looking after employees can result in less interest in the workplace and in turn quality drops, other things are just let go or not even done at all, etc.


Hopefully the new company and associated people involved are able to make things work.

[Woodshop]

Rumor is that Crail is moving their production to BBS due to tariffs. Be interesting to see how that impacts the shape guide.

Pretty crazy, but it sure does make sense.

I think being as big as they are, they could get whatever they want made in whatever quantities, but it might take a little time, or on the other hand they might be rushing this through, so they don't lose production for their boards.

Could go the same way some other brands have done, BBS for USA and China made boards for the rest of the world.


Any which way, I am curious to hear how they go with it.

[TwisT]

We’ll probably see more big factory changes. Sidewalk gotta get their line figured out.

Primitive moved to Quincy giving them a large brand to build their rep off of.

Pss is now OK.

We’re also in the middle of truck wars, and a the begging of a wheel war as 95-97 wheel trend takes off.

[Vaaja]

I was shopping for a new deck today. I’m from Finland, so I was looking for EU shops. Decided to pick up the Real Team Classic Oval 8.38″ deck. At first I was eyeing the deck on skatedeluxe.com, a German skate shop. To my surprise, the product data listed the country of origin as China. Rushed to ask in the chat whether that was a mistake, but the shop’s customer service confirmed that some batches are indeed made in China and are not R1‑constructed.

So I aborted that mission and found the same deck on blue‑tomato.com for the same price. I asked their customer service, and they said the Real Team Classic decks they have in stock are made in Mexico.

Pretty confusing

Here's the link to skatedeluxe if someone is interested
https://www.skatedeluxe.com/en/p/real-team-classic-oval-8-38-skateboard-deck-white_p144359

[nosneb]

Looks like this runs shortys decks are clutch. They do not do the letter stamp on the top trucks, has the serial number under the trucks graphic side. What gave it away was the made in Mexico sticker that was along with decks that has the same sticker and the letter stamp on the top front trucks

[Woodshop]

I was shopping for a new deck today. I’m from Finland, so I was looking for EU shops. Decided to pick up the Real Team Classic Oval 8.38″ deck. At first I was eyeing the deck on skatedeluxe.com, a German skate shop. To my surprise, the product data listed the country of origin as China. Rushed to ask in the chat whether that was a mistake, but the shop’s customer service confirmed that some batches are indeed made in China and are not R1‑constructed.

So I aborted that mission and found the same deck on blue‑tomato.com for the same price. I asked their customer service, and they said the Real Team Classic decks they have in stock are made in Mexico.

Pretty confusing

Here's the link to skatedeluxe if someone is interested
https://www.skatedeluxe.com/en/p/real-team-classic-oval-8-38-skateboard-deck-white_p144359

Thanks for the post and info.

With so many changes in woodshops and other info, it can get a little confusing, but I think this info should help a bit more than maybe even someone in the shop who may or may not quite know what to look for or might not even be anywhere near the product to really check in person.


As far as I was told, the AH Eagles, Real Ovals and Krooked Eyes regular team boards were still going to be BBS while most others were made in China for countries outside of USA.  Boards such as twin molds, Easy Rider, Tru Fit and some others were still USA made too, but as with everything, I really don't know how long that might be.  Initially they only made the regular DLX / BBS molds for their production in China, but I would assume at some point they will expand that out to include most other options too.

In general the China made boards are very stiff and very solid, as well as having the usual DLX (BBS) concave too, so apart from a few hiccups or other issues, most people who have skated the China made boards have had good responses to them.


Re looking at them in pics or in person, the easiest way to tell is on the warning sticker, which has "Made in China" or "Made in Mexico" but if the pic is too small, then look at where the warning sticker is.

The China made boards have the warning sticker right between the front bolts, with no other markings on that area at all, as they are single press and exactly the same every time - also said to be approximately II to III stamp in concave, so right in the middle, not too steep, not too mellow.

The BBS made boards will usually have the warning sticker up higher towards the nose, so you can see the press number stamp on the middle front bolts area, be it I, II, III or IV clearly stamped there, which indicates what position in the press.

I being the steepest and at the top of the press, IV being the most mellow and bottom in the press.


That Skate Deluxe pic shows the BBS / Mexico sticker and stamp, for reference.

[Woodshop]

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Easiest to compare these two listings re DLX boards - BBS / China for the warning stickers:


https://www.skatedeluxe.com/en/p/anti-hero-doobie-catch-of-the-day-8-75-skateboard-deck-sea-blue_p177501?

Doobie board is made in China - sticker right in the middle of the bolts area

https://www.skatedeluxe.com/en/p/real-ishod-speedway-8-38-skateboard-deck-black_p164928

Ishod board is made in Mexico - sticker up above and a III stamp showing on the board


Click on them to bring up the larger image.






https://www.skatedeluxe.com/en/p/real-ishod-bouquet-8-38-skateboard-deck-white_p173472

Another board, what is the same shape as the BBS made board, this time made in China, with the close up of the top image so good I can even read Made in China on the bottom line of the sticker.

https://cdn.skatedeluxe.com/thumb/fuKVVgYdUJwRQeP0fLq16knLv7M=/fit-in/1500x1749/filters:fill(white):brightness(-4)/product/173472-1-Real-IshodBouquet838.jpg


Hope that helps.

[Vaaja]

Thanks a bunch! That helped a lot. I didn’t notice the difference in the sticker’s position. However, I’m still wondering why the product data on Skatedeluxe for the Real Oval deck says “Made in China,” while the photo clearly shows “Made in Mexico.”

I skated a Zoo York sale deck for two hours, and it split in half after I landed a heavy‑footed kickflip filled with rage. Then I moved on to a Jart deck; that one lasted for three weeks of almost‑daily sessions. In the end, a heavy‑boy boardslide was too much for the Jart, and now I’ve decided to try a Real deck—at least I’ve heard good things about them. I don’t really know what the optimal choice would be in terms of durability and cost‑efficiency. I don’t mind skating Chinese‑made decks if they hold up longer than one session. 

[Woodshop]

Thanks a bunch! That helped a lot. I didn’t notice the difference in the sticker’s position. However, I’m still wondering why the product data on Skatedeluxe for the Real Oval deck says “Made in China,” while the photo clearly shows “Made in Mexico.”

I skated a Zoo York sale deck for two hours, and it split in half after I landed a heavy‑footed kickflip filled with rage. Then I moved on to a Jart deck; that one lasted for three weeks of almost‑daily sessions. In the end, a heavy‑boy boardslide was too much for the Jart, and now I’ve decided to try a Real deck—at least I’ve heard good things about them. I don’t really know what the optimal choice would be in terms of durability and cost‑efficiency. I don’t mind skating Chinese‑made decks if they hold up longer than one session. 

What I am most curious about now is if their stock pic is old and they do in fact have those same graphics now on China wood, rather than BBS wood, or someone just added "China" the listing info for a lot of DLX boards.

I guess the only way would be for someone to either buy the board or go in to their shop and check all the top stickers on any Real ovals, Krooked eyes or AH eagles.

It is still very much the current (old) stock in any place I know, so they are all BBS here in AU, but I do wonder if other countries had gone through the back log of old stock and now even those boards are also coming from China now too.


For reference, here are all the DLX board thread links in the one place too.


DLX Shapes (maybe the main DLX wood thread)

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=85076.0


DLX boards now made in China

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=127113.0


DLX Roman Numerals

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=121555.0


DLX board sizes are always off

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=114805.0

[hiljentaa]

Anyone here familiar with Vinyl shapes? Looking at the 8.38 but cannot find a top view online.

[rikki]

Thanks a bunch! That helped a lot. I didn’t notice the difference in the sticker’s position. However, I’m still wondering why the product data on Skatedeluxe for the Real Oval deck says “Made in China,” while the photo clearly shows “Made in Mexico.”

I skated a Zoo York sale deck for two hours, and it split in half after I landed a heavy‑footed kickflip filled with rage. Then I moved on to a Jart deck; that one lasted for three weeks of almost‑daily sessions. In the end, a heavy‑boy boardslide was too much for the Jart, and now I’ve decided to try a Real deck—at least I’ve heard good things about them. I don’t really know what the optimal choice would be in terms of durability and cost‑efficiency. I don’t mind skating Chinese‑made decks if they hold up longer than one session. 

The DLX China decks are good. They are durable, hold their pop for a long time and are stiff enough for people who like their decks on the stiffer side.

I also wouldn't trust Skatedeluxe's product info 100%. They're know to list inaccurate info here and there.

Plus, being from Finland, I'm sure you have plenty of Finnish local shop options? Keep the core shops alive.

[Woodshop]

Anyone here familiar with Vinyl shapes? Looking at the 8.38 but cannot find a top view online.

They actually seem really hard to find top pics, but I have seen a number of good pics from some places with dimensions to make me believe that they are roughly the same fairly basic shape as a number of other boards, as well as two listings from Slam City Skates, both 8.25 and 8.5 to give you a bit more of an idea as to what they like to do, so I would say very much the middle of the road, not too pointy, not to blunt, a little shorter than other 8.38 boards.

Dimensions come back as roughly 8.38 x 31.8 with 14.25 wb although this could also be wrong.

https://www.slamcity.com/en-au/products/vinyl-8-5-blake-carpenter-fragment-skateboard-deck

https://www.slamcity.com/en-au/products/vinyl-8-25-volt-splat-skateboard-deck

[hiljentaa]

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Anyone here familiar with Vinyl shapes? Looking at the 8.38 but cannot find a top view online.

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They actually seem really hard to find top pics, but I have seen a number of good pics from some places with dimensions to make me believe that they are roughly the same fairly basic shape as a number of other boards, as well as two listings from Slam City Skates, both 8.25 and 8.5 to give you a bit more of an idea as to what they like to do, so I would say very much the middle of the road, not too pointy, not to blunt, a little shorter than other 8.38 boards.

Dimensions come back as roughly 8.38 x 31.8 with 14.25 wb although this could also be wrong.

https://www.slamcity.com/en-au/products/vinyl-8-5-blake-carpenter-fragment-skateboard-deck

https://www.slamcity.com/en-au/products/vinyl-8-25-volt-splat-skateboard-deck

Appreciate the info, as always. Thanks for finding those top views! Wish I could gnar...some day.

[TwisT]

Girl using DSM/Chopshop?

I was doing some unrelated detective work, and came across the crailtap page, and it looks like they're getting a deck shipment from chop as recently as may. https://importkey.com/i/crailtap-llc