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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #10170 on: June 02, 2021, 12:40:14 PM »
Just time and laziness, I guess. I read you can wedge a flathead to hold the nut while you tighten the inverted kingpin, so if I have like 3-4 threads engaged with the nylock I'll know it's my desired looseness and can just mount them. But if the nut has the potential to come loose and fall off, I guess I'd bite the bullet and get the JB Weld. Thanks for your response, shalom


Worth mentioning that unless you're using risers that can accommodate it, you'll need to file down a little bit of the nut due to the cavity in the Aces being so shallow (I can post pics later). So it seems like it has the potential to rattle loose.

That all being said, the JB weld thing seems kind of weird and intimidating at first, but ended up being super easy. I did it at the end of my session one afternoon and they were ready to go by the next. You've probably seen this video, but:



Just mind what he says about leaving a couple threads exposed so you have some play when getting the IKP out the first time.

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« Reply #10171 on: June 02, 2021, 01:21:57 PM »
The video is decent, but a couple of things worth adding

1) Use a vise, if you can. Set the jaws an inch or so apart and hammer the kingpin out that way. Don't hammer on concrete, if you don't have to.
2) Use making tape to mask off the area around the hole for much easier clean-up.
3) Make sure you set the nut initially with the kingpin in, so that it's oriented the correct direction when you reassemble the truck. Leaving the kingpin in so far, with threads sticking out, seems like a bad idea, but maybe it works for some people. I leave it in a few MM and just run a tap through it when I'm done.
4) Shaving the bushing is completely unnecessary. The geometry is not affected by the orientation of the kingpin. I suppose you'll get additional clearance, but with the inverted kingpin, you're already going to be well below the axle, so must of us will have replaced our trucks before we're going to getting hung up (unless you just have crazy dip with your Smiths)
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« Reply #10172 on: June 02, 2021, 01:30:30 PM »
The video is decent, but a couple of things worth adding

1) Use a vise, if you can. Set the jaws an inch or so apart and hammer the kingpin out that way. Don't hammer on concrete, if you don't have to.
2) Use making tape to mask off the area around the hole for much easier clean-up.
3) Make sure you set the nut initially with the kingpin in, so that it's oriented the correct direction when you reassemble the truck. Leaving the kingpin in so far, with threads sticking out, seems like a bad idea, but maybe it works for some people. I leave it in a few MM and just run a tap through it when I'm done.
4) Shaving the bushing is completely unnecessary. The geometry is not affected by the orientation of the kingpin. I suppose you'll get additional clearance, but you're going to be well below the axle, so must of us will had replaced our trucks before we're going to be hitting that kingpin (unless you just have crazy dip with your Smiths)

Yeah, don't shave the bushings. The dude even posted in the comments that he should have said that was just his preference.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #10173 on: June 02, 2021, 01:51:41 PM »
Damn, judging by that video the nut and kingpin stick out a lot on the bottom of Ace plates. This sucks, might have to go back to Indy just for the IKP baseplates. With hangers ground down as much as mine, I really hang up on grinds. Thanks again for the responses guys, shalom

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« Reply #10174 on: June 02, 2021, 02:07:56 PM »
Damn, judging by that video the nut and kingpin stick out a lot on the bottom of Ace plates. This sucks, might have to go back to Indy just for the IKP baseplates. With hangers ground down as much as mine, I really hang up on grinds. Thanks again for the responses guys, shalom

I don't know what hardware that guy used, but I've used the stock nut that came with the Krux kingpin, and it sticks out like ~1mm at most. It would be easy enough to file it down, but since it's just sitting against a wooden skateboard deck, which will be easily as safely deformed by the nuts, I don't bother. Since I expect that Krux is just using off-the-shelf nuts, I imagine that any random 3/8 x 24tpi nut from the hardware store would behave the same way.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #10175 on: June 02, 2021, 06:52:08 PM »
Does anyone know the height of Tensor Mag Light Lows. The Regular are 55mm just wondering what the lows are.

I think they may work on steeper decks?
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #10176 on: June 02, 2021, 07:29:54 PM »
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Damn, judging by that video the nut and kingpin stick out a lot on the bottom of Ace plates. This sucks, might have to go back to Indy just for the IKP baseplates. With hangers ground down as much as mine, I really hang up on grinds. Thanks again for the responses guys, shalom
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I don't know what hardware that guy used, but I've used the stock nut that came with the Krux kingpin, and it sticks out like ~1mm at most. It would be easy enough to file it down, but since it's just sitting against a wooden skateboard deck, which will be easily as safely deformed by the nuts, I don't bother. Since I expect that Krux is just using off-the-shelf nuts, I imagine that any random 3/8 x 24tpi nut from the hardware store would behave the same way.

Dude I actually realized I have some modus risers, and although they stick out a little bit, they have a hole cut out where the kingpin is, so I can run em without the nut digging into the board. I'll try to post pics of it all finished, shalom

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #10177 on: June 03, 2021, 01:50:32 AM »
It seems like the two things a user could change which would effect how a truck skates would be the stack height of the lowest washer and bushings, along with bushing durometer. Unless I am conceiving of it all wrong, I don't see how a top washer would effect a truck's performance, except nominally with how it interacts with the bushing.

i'm no engineer or truck mad scientist, this info was passed on to me by a fellow slap pal with an engineering background, but i can only back it up with my anecdotal experiences.

lets say you have a truck with the regular cone styled washers. if you look on the inside of the hangar around where the washer sits, you'll notice scratches/gouge marks from the washer itself. the info i was told is that this pinch from the washer can exert extra force on kingpins, eventually leading them to snap, plus the coned edge of the washer can dig into the top bushing and fuck it up (check the venture thread for posts on this). however in my experience it also feels like the larger washer restricts the range of movement, as it will pinch/hit the hanger if you turn too deep. ofcourse you can still turn but there's definitely some restriction imo.

again, purely anecdotal evidence but i swapped the regular venture top washer with a flat bones washer and i was definitely able to run them looser/carve better.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #10178 on: June 03, 2021, 03:11:47 AM »

Yes definitely.

I recall some older Indy trucks just didn't work and only turned so far with the washers that were on it when it came to my attention, with very clear metal marks on either side of the bushing area.

Swapped out the really big top metal washer for a smaller one and the trucks turned so much better.

I have also seen some people mistakenly put the bottom washer on top and caused similar issues.


As long as there is still enough bushing to hold the washers off the hanger, there will not be any issues with turning, even if it is cut right down or has compressed almost to nothing, which I have on some of my older boards.

Those bones washers, small, flat and very thin definitely make things different too, as do other flat washers you can get from a hardware store.
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #10179 on: June 03, 2021, 10:12:01 AM »
Setup my new 149 tit indys...one axle was machined weird (or not enough), it was difficult  to get the wheels on (one more than the other), but not so bad I thought it to be a major issue, and once on, wheel is so difficult to get off the bearing will stay the axle when I yank the wheel off and it's impossible to get the bearing off...I've tried everything, started to bang off the bearing to no use, so now I've got a bronson ceramic stuck mid axle on a truck I can't fucking use, fucking livid right now.

Newer China-indys, no cross and 149 under the hanger.

Leaving it as is (yes those are hammer to truck rage marks (bearing still spins).

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #10180 on: June 03, 2021, 10:27:34 AM »
Setup my new 149 tit indys...one axle was machined weird (or not enough), it was difficult  to get the wheels on (one more than the other), but not so bad I thought it to be a major issue, and once on, wheel is so difficult to get off the bearing will stay the axle when I yank the wheel off and it's impossible to get the bearing off...I've tried everything, started to bang off the bearing to no use, so now I've got a bronson ceramic stuck mid axle on a truck I can't fucking use, fucking livid right now.

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I have the same ones and they're great. As soon I return back home I'll get some Films 5.5, i want a little magic carpet.
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #10181 on: June 03, 2021, 11:23:21 AM »
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Setup my new 149 tit indys...one axle was machined weird (or not enough), it was difficult  to get the wheels on (one more than the other), but not so bad I thought it to be a major issue, and once on, wheel is so difficult to get off the bearing will stay the axle when I yank the wheel off and it's impossible to get the bearing off...I've tried everything, started to bang off the bearing to no use, so now I've got a bronson ceramic stuck mid axle on a truck I can't fucking use, fucking livid right now.

Newer China-indys, no cross and 149 under the hanger.
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Bad luck :(


Indeed.

Bunk set of ACE AF1s...Bunk set of Indy TI...I should jsut fucking ride thunder or go back to tensor :P

Super bummed as I was setting it up to skate, sort of ruined the mood. Reached out to NHS, they're going to sort me out with replacements; I'd be fine with just a new hanger and one bearing :{

Was planning on fulltime switch to indy 149s starting this weekend, now I have to default to something else...
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #10182 on: June 03, 2021, 12:18:34 PM »
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Setup my new 149 tit indys...one axle was machined weird (or not enough), it was difficult  to get the wheels on (one more than the other), but not so bad I thought it to be a major issue, and once on, wheel is so difficult to get off the bearing will stay the axle when I yank the wheel off and it's impossible to get the bearing off...I've tried everything, started to bang off the bearing to no use, so now I've got a bronson ceramic stuck mid axle on a truck I can't fucking use, fucking livid right now.

Newer China-indys, no cross and 149 under the hanger.
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Bad luck :(

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Indeed. Super bummed as I was setting it up to skate, sort of ruined the mood. Reached out to NHS, they're going to sort me out; I'd be fine with just a new hanger and one bearing :{

Was planning on fulltime switch to indy 149s starting this weekend, now I have to default to something else...

Woah that is such a bummer mate and would ruin my mood too. I had that once happen with old Thunder's. Can you push the bearing toward the hangar again or is it stuck there? If you can push the bearing back a bit you can use a metal file on the axle. Or maybe the bearing itself is causing the problem and you can file something off?

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« Reply #10183 on: June 03, 2021, 12:29:25 PM »
Are truck companies using slightly thicker axles? This might make sense for bearing efficiency but it could also have caused Xen's problem. I believe Ace were advertising doing this at one point and I had a stubborn bearing stuck on an Ace axle but I got it loose, thankfully.

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« Reply #10184 on: June 03, 2021, 12:36:25 PM »
Setup my new 149 tit indys...one axle was machined weird (or not enough), it was difficult  to get the wheels on (one more than the other), but not so bad I thought it to be a major issue, and once on, wheel is so difficult to get off the bearing will stay the axle when I yank the wheel off and it's impossible to get the bearing off...I've tried everything, started to bang off the bearing to no use, so now I've got a bronson ceramic stuck mid axle on a truck I can't fucking use, fucking livid right now.

Newer China-indys, no cross and 149 under the hanger.

Leaving it as is (yes those are hammer to truck rage marks (bearing still spins).



If you have access to an automotive bearing puller, I expect you could remove that ceramic bearing without damage.

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« Reply #10185 on: June 03, 2021, 01:49:58 PM »
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Setup my new 149 tit indys...one axle was machined weird (or not enough), it was difficult  to get the wheels on (one more than the other), but not so bad I thought it to be a major issue, and once on, wheel is so difficult to get off the bearing will stay the axle when I yank the wheel off and it's impossible to get the bearing off...I've tried everything, started to bang off the bearing to no use, so now I've got a bronson ceramic stuck mid axle on a truck I can't fucking use, fucking livid right now.

Newer China-indys, no cross and 149 under the hanger.
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Bad luck :(

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Indeed. Super bummed as I was setting it up to skate, sort of ruined the mood. Reached out to NHS, they're going to sort me out; I'd be fine with just a new hanger and one bearing :{

Was planning on fulltime switch to indy 149s starting this weekend, now I have to default to something else...
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Woah that is such a bummer mate and would ruin my mood too. I had that once happen with old Thunder's. Can you push the bearing toward the hangar again or is it stuck there? If you can push the bearing back a bit you can use a metal file on the axle. Or maybe the bearing itself is causing the problem and you can file something off?

It's pretty much stuck right in the damn middle of the hanger...bearing is fine as I was riding them on my 159s - pretty sure I'm going to bork the bronson in getting it off (you're only as fast as your slowest bearing right?)...and even then, it's a titanium axle, not sure how much me filing is going to do..it sort of looks like it's bulging a bit (hence the tight fit)

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #10186 on: June 03, 2021, 02:14:35 PM »
I have a set of Titanium 144s that have that same problem to a lesser extent. One of the axles is a tight fit, preventing side to side play, but not bad enough to where it pulls the bearing out of the wheel. That's insane - maybe has something to do with titanium...

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« Reply #10187 on: June 03, 2021, 02:34:57 PM »
I normally ride indys but just got a set of Destructo’s for free. Has anyone skated these recently? Are they any good? I have mostly been skating ledges recently coming back from some serious injuries so makes most sense to try them now.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #10188 on: June 03, 2021, 03:22:05 PM »
I skated the d1 mids, mag baseplate with hollow kingpin and superlites, cast plate with hollow kingpin, and I loved them. Got axle slip on both sets, but they were great 'til then.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #10189 on: June 03, 2021, 03:49:40 PM »
I have a set of Titanium 144s that have that same problem to a lesser extent. One of the axles is a tight fit, preventing side to side play, but not bad enough to where it pulls the bearing out of the wheel. That's insane - maybe has something to do with titanium...
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« Reply #10190 on: June 03, 2021, 04:01:35 PM »
I skated the d1 mids, mag baseplate with hollow kingpin and superlites, cast plate with hollow kingpin, and I loved them. Got axle slip on both sets, but they were great 'til then.

Thanks for the info I’ll set these up and try get some axel slip on them, I have only got axel slip on indys once usually skate indys for 2 years before needing to change.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #10191 on: June 03, 2021, 04:29:37 PM »
I have a set of Titanium 144s that have that same problem to a lesser extent. One of the axles is a tight fit, preventing side to side play, but not bad enough to where it pulls the bearing out of the wheel. That's insane - maybe has something to do with titanium...

I have a set of Titanium 144s that have that same problem to a lesser extent. One of the axles is a tight fit, preventing side to side play, but not bad enough to where it pulls the bearing out of the wheel. That's insane - maybe has something to do with titanium...

My set of 144s is totally fine :\

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #10192 on: June 03, 2021, 04:52:48 PM »
Setup my new 149 tit indys...one axle was machined weird (or not enough), it was difficult  to get the wheels on (one more than the other), but not so bad I thought it to be a major issue, and once on, wheel is so difficult to get off the bearing will stay the axle when I yank the wheel off and it's impossible to get the bearing off...I've tried everything, started to bang off the bearing to no use, so now I've got a bronson ceramic stuck mid axle on a truck I can't fucking use, fucking livid right now.

Newer China-indys, no cross and 149 under the hanger.

Leaving it as is (yes those are hammer to truck rage marks (bearing still spins).



You could try dis to generate more force

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #10193 on: June 03, 2021, 05:57:49 PM »
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« Reply #10194 on: June 03, 2021, 06:16:56 PM »
So I went out and bought the same gorilla glue clear epoxy as the guy in that YouTube video and did it just like him, I poured way too much in there and it gooped all over my baseplate and I had to wipe it a lot. I didn't think to get all up in the threads with a q-tip to wipe away any epoxy before it hardened, but I did a decent job with just a paper towel. Good thing I had nitrile gloves that shit was a toxic mess. I have a strong feeling I fucked up and it's gonna harden and I won't be able loosen or tighten the inverted kingpin because the threads will be bonded. I suck at anything remotely handy.

I tried to wiggle the stock ace kingpins before I hammered them out to see if they were loose at all, they weren't. But I noticed one baseplate I can wiggle the inverted kingpin back and forth quite a bit, while the other one only slightly. Does anyone know if the hole is going to keep widening causing the kingpin to have even more wobble? I guess that's why they put the shaft nut in those Indy baseplates :-\ shalom

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« Reply #10195 on: June 03, 2021, 06:49:07 PM »
So I went out and bought the same gorilla glue clear epoxy as the guy in that YouTube video and did it just like him, I poured way too much in there and it gooped all over my baseplate and I had to wipe it a lot. I didn't think to get all up in the threads with a q-tip to wipe away any epoxy before it hardened, but I did a decent job with just a paper towel. Good thing I had nitrile gloves that shit was a toxic mess. I have a strong feeling I fucked up and it's gonna harden and I won't be able loosen or tighten the inverted kingpin because the threads will be bonded. I suck at anything remotely handy.

I tried to wiggle the stock ace kingpins before I hammered them out to see if they were loose at all, they weren't. But I noticed one baseplate I can wiggle the inverted kingpin back and forth quite a bit, while the other one only slightly. Does anyone know if the hole is going to keep widening causing the kingpin to have even more wobble? I guess that's why they put the shaft nut in those Indy baseplates :-\ shalom

So I take from this that the nut is moving? If that's the case, I would suggest that you either failed to get the epoxy where it needed to go or else you didn't allow enough time for the stuff to cure. It will appear hard enough after 12 hours, but a full 24 is the bare minimum amount of time before it should be interacted with aggressively.

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« Reply #10196 on: June 03, 2021, 06:55:13 PM »
I didn't move the kingpin or nut whatsoever after the epoxy was poured, just finished maybe an hour ago. I meant before I did it, I tightened the new nut onto the inverted kingpin a few threads in, then pulled it nice and flush up against the baseplate where it would properly sit, and I was able to wiggle the inverted kingpin back and forth a little bit with some good play going on, so I thought maybe that could potentially get worse over time? I might be tripping about the epoxy in the threads cause I noticed the final results of how the dude's epoxy job looked in that video looks exactly like how mine does, so I might be good. Shalom

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #10197 on: June 04, 2021, 02:30:34 AM »
Setup my new 149 tit indys...one axle was machined weird (or not enough), it was difficult  to get the wheels on (one more than the other), but not so bad I thought it to be a major issue, and once on, wheel is so difficult to get off the bearing will stay the axle when I yank the wheel off and it's impossible to get the bearing off...I've tried everything, started to bang off the bearing to no use, so now I've got a bronson ceramic stuck mid axle on a truck I can't fucking use, fucking livid right now.

Newer China-indys, no cross and 149 under the hanger.

Leaving it as is (yes those are hammer to truck rage marks (bearing still spins).




I have seen that a number of times over the years, almost always with rust getting in to things, so the axle with rust was thicker, which was resolved quite easily with a bit of Mob grip leftover wrapped around the axle and used like sandpaper.  That same process may or may not work on that axle too, but doing that for about a minute usually gets enough material off the axle to be able to get the bearing on and off without too much trouble.

Note some bearings have wider centers than others too, which was interesting to note, as one brand just wouldn't fit at all but another brand fit easily with one random set of trucks that had thicker axles than usual.


Also had to deal with bearings rusted on to the axle too, and a couple that were stuck like that, even after one guy cut the whole wheel off to try to get at the bearing, but this is what worked the best:

Put the complete board on the side, that axle end down on the solid concrete ground and sit some grips, pliers or something over the bearing, almost gripping the axle but not quite.  Then use the hammer and hit the grips in a downward motion as close to the axle as you can and that should result in your bearing staying in one piece and the grips forcing the whole bearing off the axle.

I have also used a short / medium flat head screwdriver jammed against the bearing core and axle and hammer, going more gently hitting on one side then the other until it has come off, from being in the same position (axle facing down and end on the ground) letting gravity do the work for you too.

Push the speed rings down so you are hitting / pressing on them too.


@Vitriol has the right way of it, only it is harder to get into that position and I try to always do things in the simplest way with the least amount of tools possible, given most of the issues are either at the shop or at a skatepark / spot where you might not have everything at your disposal.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #10198 on: June 04, 2021, 05:42:41 AM »
So I went out and bought the same gorilla glue clear epoxy as the guy in that YouTube video and did it just like him, I poured way too much in there and it gooped all over my baseplate and I had to wipe it a lot. I didn't think to get all up in the threads with a q-tip to wipe away any epoxy before it hardened, but I did a decent job with just a paper towel. Good thing I had nitrile gloves that shit was a toxic mess. I have a strong feeling I fucked up and it's gonna harden and I won't be able loosen or tighten the inverted kingpin because the threads will be bonded. I suck at anything remotely handy.

I tried to wiggle the stock ace kingpins before I hammered them out to see if they were loose at all, they weren't. But I noticed one baseplate I can wiggle the inverted kingpin back and forth quite a bit, while the other one only slightly. Does anyone know if the hole is going to keep widening causing the kingpin to have even more wobble? I guess that's why they put the shaft nut in those Indy baseplates :-\ shalom


This might have been put up a few times before and apologies if you don't have Instagram to be able to go through the comments and information, but this guy by far has the most comprehensive and successful conversion techniques.

This is the comment from this post alone, but that hashtag is seriously good for any inverted kingpin info, pics, videos, etc:


Good day as any to flip your kingpins.

NEVER HANG UP AGAIN

Victor Earhart showed me this hack long before ‘Grind Kings’ were ‘invented.’
In fact -inverted kingpins are older than Urethane Skateboard wheels. The first roller skates had inverted kingpins since 1905.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #10199 on: June 04, 2021, 06:54:23 AM »
Has anyone had any luck going from 149 to 147s and maintaining their 50 50s on tranny? Ledges are fine on smaller trucks but I blow 50 50s and pivot fakies on smaller trucks.