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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #11640 on: August 15, 2022, 02:31:19 PM »
Well, lets reverse what you've done here. First add maybe the top washer back, tighten to flush and see what's up. Then repeat with the bottom washer. IIRC Bones in Thunder's work fine with both washers. If they are still wacky maybe try the Indy white super soft conical bushings or look into options from Khiro or Riptide that are in the 70-80a range. You will need a conical bottom and I think the Indy conicals fit, but someone can correct me on that.

Also, you said Thunder lows- when did you buy these? Thunder only makes highs now although some of their highs can be fairly low.
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #11641 on: August 15, 2022, 02:47:17 PM »
Well, lets reverse what you've done here. First add maybe the top washer back, tighten to flush and see what's up. Then repeat with the bottom washer. IIRC Thunder's work fine with both washers. If they are still wacky maybe try the Indy white super soft conical bushings or look into options from Khiro or Riptide that are in the 70-80a range. You will need a conical bottom and I think the Indy conicals fit, but someone can correct me on that.

Also, you said Thunder lows- when did you buy these? Thunder only makes highs now although some of their highs can be fairly low.

My trucks are a few years old. I don't have any truck washers top or bottom laying around but you shouldn't need them with those bushings but I'll have to get some from my buddy I guess and see if it does anything.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #11642 on: August 15, 2022, 03:06:02 PM »
I don't know about Thunder low, but with the highs if you do not use a bottom washer it changes the pivot cup angle and truck geometry. Most people don't use one and get by fine, but you can just use the stock top washer as the bottom and Bones washer as the top.

If you have a hardware store nearby just take your board with you and go to the bulk section, take your kingpin nut off, and just try different washers on. Truck washers are not anything special.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #11643 on: August 15, 2022, 03:10:10 PM »
What year is it?  Are there thunder hiís?  What happened?

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #11644 on: August 15, 2022, 03:31:54 PM »
What year is it?  Are there thunder hiís?  What happened?
All thunders come in a standard "high" height, but are generally closer to the mid range (52mm). The only differences in height would be from forged plates, so subtract 1mm

143 - 147: 50mm
148 - 151: 52mm
161, 181: 53mm
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« Reply #11645 on: August 16, 2022, 10:58:55 AM »

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« Reply #11646 on: August 17, 2022, 06:44:53 AM »
Recently have gone down the rabbit hole of truck madness this summer and now have every 8.5" truck from Thunder and Venture and ace and just sold my forged 149 indys bc I hate them as a company. Anyways I would just skate thunder 149 forged hollows if it werent for the lack of baseplate. Does anyone else struggle with super inconsistent slide tricks on thunders?

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #11647 on: August 17, 2022, 07:17:11 AM »
Recently have gone down the rabbit hole of truck madness this summer and now have every 8.5" truck from Thunder and Venture and ace and just sold my forged 149 indys bc I hate them as a company. Anyways I would just skate thunder 149 forged hollows if it werent for the lack of baseplate. Does anyone else struggle with super inconsistent slide tricks on thunders?

Itís definitely an adjustment if youíre coming from indy or ace, but you get used to it really quickly. Because of the geometry, your wheels make contact before the base plate usually unless youíre running really small wheels. You have to think of it more like a powerslide or blunt slide even as opposed to a slide against baseplate
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #11648 on: August 24, 2022, 02:16:57 PM »
I was trying to find a gear swap or buy/sell/trade section on here but couldn't find it.

I have some fun truck stuff I don't want, was going to put it on eBay but figured I'd check here first

- Array sleeved washers, 2 barrel, 2 cone
- 1/8" stainless axle washers(equal to 4 stock washers, used with titanium axle nuts), four
- Ti axle nuts(thinner than regular nuts), four
- Ti kingpin nuts(thinner, can use taller top bushings)
- Ti inverted kingpins(sleeved washers sit flush with it)
- Tensor top bushings
- Stock Ace low bushings
- Stock red Venture bushings
- 3/4" bolts w/ shorty nuts(for forged baseplates on a VX or Flight), 8

I can't figure out how to post a pic, I'm on a phone.

Lmk if there's a swap thread I missed somehow

And I'm not sure if it's okay to post eBay links here

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #11649 on: August 24, 2022, 02:36:57 PM »
Recently have gone down the rabbit hole of truck madness this summer and now have every 8.5" truck from Thunder and Venture and ace and just sold my forged 149 indys bc I hate them as a company. Anyways I would just skate thunder 149 forged hollows if it werent for the lack of baseplate. Does anyone else struggle with super inconsistent slide tricks on thunders?

I've been on Thunders for years and never had problems with slide tricks, but maybe I'm just used to them.
I skated Ventures for years because I came up in the mid/late 90s, then switched to Indy's for a bit because of all the fanfare, then tried Thunder last and never looked back.
I have Indy's on my cruiser deck (that I never use). After skating Thunder for so long, when I throw down on Indy's they feel...I dunno...squirrley is the best way I can put it. Like if I'm just trying to turn a tiny bit, if I lean even the tiniest bit too far the Indy just dives in on me. I've got brand new bushings in them and they're not particularly loose.
Not sure if that's normal, may be hard to notice if you're used to it.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #11650 on: August 24, 2022, 02:42:28 PM »
I was trying to find a gear swap or buy/sell/trade section on here but couldn't find it.

I have some fun truck stuff I don't want, was going to put it on eBay but figured I'd check here first

- Array sleeved washers, 2 barrel, 2 cone
- 1/8" stainless axle washers(equal to 4 stock washers, used with titanium axle nuts), four
- Ti axle nuts(thinner than regular nuts), four
- Ti kingpin nuts(thinner, can use taller top bushings)
- Ti inverted kingpins(sleeved washers sit flush with it)
- Tensor top bushings
- Stock Ace low bushings
- Stock red Venture bushings
- 3/4" bolts w/ shorty nuts(for forged baseplates on a VX or Flight), 8

I can't figure out how to post a pic, I'm on a phone.

Lmk if there's a swap thread I missed somehow

And I'm not sure if it's okay to post eBay links here

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Itís on the home page. Events and classifieds. For photos when you go to post you should see an add image to post button. Hope this helps.
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« Reply #11651 on: August 24, 2022, 06:08:50 PM »

Itís on the home page. Events and classifieds. For photos when you go to post you should see an add image to post button. Hope this helps.

Sweet, thanks!

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #11652 on: August 25, 2022, 08:51:22 AM »
1#
-Thunder lights 147
-Splitfire 51mm 101d f4 Classics
-Bushings: the ones that came with  the trucks but a little bit squeezed

2#
-Thunder hollow lights 148
-Splitfire 54mm 99du f4 Classics full
-Bushings: the ones that came with the trucks but a little bit squeezed
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« Reply #11653 on: August 25, 2022, 07:38:50 PM »
Congratulations on being normalÖ.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #11654 on: August 31, 2022, 05:15:02 PM »
Looks like Herman got the venture bushings in his thunders

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« Reply #11655 on: August 31, 2022, 08:18:24 PM »
Nah, those are Thunder team hollows. The polished come with a clear red bushing stock. At first glance it looks like it though.
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« Reply #11656 on: August 31, 2022, 09:31:05 PM »
Recently have gone down the rabbit hole of truck madness this summer and now have every 8.5" truck from Thunder and Venture and ace and just sold my forged 149 indys bc I hate them as a company. Anyways I would just skate thunder 149 forged hollows if it werent for the lack of baseplate. Does anyone else struggle with super inconsistent slide tricks on thunders?

You need to almost powerslide your nose slides and/or have your foot further from the pocket. Waxing the wheel area helps.

And no I don't have slide issues with Thunders after I remember this. Kinda like how on Ventures the grind is slower so on certain types of ledges you have to go faster and almost "push" the grind.

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« Reply #11657 on: September 01, 2022, 12:58:33 AM »
I was worried also about slide isseies when i bought my first thunders but it turns out that not only there are no issues but they even slide better on one very crusty ledge where the baseplate of my royals get cought. Just some wax on the wheelside of the ledge and you are perfect.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #11658 on: September 01, 2022, 05:27:46 AM »
I was worried also about slide isseies when i bought my first thunders but it turns out that not only there are no issues but they even slide better on one very crusty ledge where the baseplate of my royals get cought. Just some wax on the wheelside of the ledge and you are perfect.

This is the big reason I don't think they should change the baseplate. Not getting caught on chunky ledges is great. My indy's felt way better after the baseplate was a bit worn away.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #11659 on: September 01, 2022, 05:33:20 AM »
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I was worried also about slide isseies when i bought my first thunders but it turns out that not only there are no issues but they even slide better on one very crusty ledge where the baseplate of my royals get cought. Just some wax on the wheelside of the ledge and you are perfect.
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This is the big reason I don't think they should change the baseplate. Not getting caught on chunky ledges is great. My indy's felt way better after the baseplate was a bit worn away.
I've never tried thunder but compared to Indy for slides I think venture are better. The baseplate just wears away a lot faster on venture.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #11660 on: September 03, 2022, 05:33:36 PM »
Someone on here a week or two ago was posting about using barrel bushings on thunders, and I had it on my mind as my thunder seaglass color bushings crumbled in both trucks a.

I just sanded down some 95a venom bushings to thunder height and had a great session on them. Iím actually skating them looser, but they feel so much more stable. Honestly it was amazing and I am not wheelbiting at all, even though Iím skating 54mm dragons on 147s. K grinds were working out great on this setup as I donít think my pinch was wheelbiting (I felt perfectly locked in) so the wheel was still spinning while grinding, and I was going further than normal. Iím sold on this combo and thanks to the slap pal who peaked my interest!

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« Reply #11661 on: September 03, 2022, 10:23:00 PM »
Thatís a smart ideaÖ.barrel in thundersÖ.surprised you had to shave them down as thunder bottoms are a bit tallerÖ.

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« Reply #11662 on: September 04, 2022, 05:58:44 AM »
Thatís a smart ideaÖ.barrel in thundersÖ.surprised you had to shave them down as thunder bottoms are a bit tallerÖ.
The venom bushings were a couple mm taller, but it only took a couple minutes am to sand them down on an old decks grip.
I originally got the vwnoms because the writer on skateboardingismylifetimesport said they made tensor lows into bowl carving machines. I have a set of tensor lows but never set them up with the venoms. Iíll probably grab a set of 93a just to experiment a little bit

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #11663 on: September 04, 2022, 07:12:24 AM »


I asked Elijah what size these new Indy's were and he said they're 151's, which are slightly bigger than 149's. I also asked him when they come out and he said he isn't sure.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #11664 on: September 04, 2022, 08:39:09 AM »
Did you ask him why he hasnít invested in a proper turntable? 

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« Reply #11665 on: September 04, 2022, 08:53:01 AM »
They remind me of the new rkp powell truck in that pic. Which is not a good thing. Something just looks wrong

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #11666 on: September 04, 2022, 09:13:26 AM »
They look like if modern Brandon Biebel was a Thunder truck.

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« Reply #11667 on: September 04, 2022, 04:51:05 PM »
They look like if modern Brandon Biebel was a Thunder truck.

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« Reply #11668 on: September 04, 2022, 06:32:53 PM »
That's probably as small as they're gonna go for these if they're just using the 215 molds, saves money they can just have shorter 215 hangers vs making entirely new stuff. I also read somewhere that they're not doing smaller sizes. I've toyed with the idea of cutting down a 215 in the past but never did it

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« Reply #11669 on: September 05, 2022, 02:19:38 AM »
But standard 215 and old stage 4 aren't that buff, they changed something for the worse didn't they?
So that leads me to believe they're not simply using the 215 molds