Truck set-ups

[Vintagebody]

that's pretty chewed up, but i think a 3/8" UNF die nut would probably repair that easily enough

Yes, it will fix it so it will work, but it will miss a thread, which might not matter at all.

Die's is pretty essential tool for skaters... I re-thread every time I remove the wheels. And I also have spare nuts, incase they get too damaged from removal.

[EchoShadow]

Though I would ask here, since normally you guys would be in the know! Any one got a line on some Indy titanium for a 8.5? I have checked every single online skate shop in Oregon and I can’t find anything! Was planing to size up from my normal 139 on a 8.125 but looks like that’s not going to happen for a while.

I know this is old but I have a lightly used set of Indy titanium 149s I could part with. Only 1 grind done on them on my butter bench with composite, can't even see marks on truck. Can post pics if interested.

[Vintagebody]

Anyone have secret info regarding the Indy mids with inverted kingpin or whatever it is?
They seem to only reply "soon" on insta...

[Xen]

Anyone have secret info regarding the Indy mids with inverted kingpin or whatever it is?
They seem to only reply "soon" on insta...

Those Mindys and the new ACEs are probably borked until late summer/fall I'm guessing, due to supply and manufacturing chains being disrupted via the virus; if I remember right ACE was pushing for spring (Indy probably as well).

[TheBoognish]

Finally got some 5.6’s. I always rode 5.2s on an 8.25 and it never bothered me, so I’m curious to see the difference.

[Xen]

Finally got some 5.6’s. I always rode 5.2s on an 8.25 and it never bothered me, so I’m curious to see the difference.

5.6s on an 8.125 (more like an 8.18) so the opposite - but rode 5.6s on 8.25" and really enjoyed it (tho I've tried to always run 8.25" trucks on 8.25" (and 8s on 8s and 8.5s on 8.5s).

[legion]

figured id drop this here and see if anyone has had this happen to them



was tinkering with some (used maybe once?) thunders i got - 149ti
been riding indys for a hot minute but a tasty classified has me swimming in trucks at the moment.
i wasnt satisfied with the amount of wheelbite i was catching on these, so i put 1/8" risers on, didnt work, put bones hard in. still mushy turns and wheels hitting deck(53mm classic f4s). so i go to spin my bushings around and in the process of loosening the front truck, the nut jumped a thread or something and it got so fucking hard to spin a wrench on it. it re-threaded the kingpin rendering it useless. crazy right?
i emailed thunder and of course they got back to me within 15 minutes saying theyll send new ones when they can. classic dlxsf customer service.

i really didnt jive with the mushed turns but i hardly got a chance to fuck around with them.

I know it's a kingpin..
In my experience a bolt like this is trash.
It will be next to impossible to get the nut to engage the second part of the threads, after that worn gap..
How far can you get the nut to thread on?
And it might not be just the threads were worn of, that part of the bolt may have stretched and weakened
Hit up DLX? Or bang out that kingpin

[Dima]

Anybody got some information on the new indy mids mostly regarding the height?

[stets]

So I got nerdy on some Thunder with a Grindking conversion. (Actually Krēpēr conversion technically?) A friend showed me the method, it involves installing a threaded 3/8-24 insert. You drill out the kingpin hole to a certain slightly larger size, thread it with a course tap for the teeth on the outside of the insert, and then epoxy set it. No need for a nut! Though you do have to put some threadlock liquid on the kingpin threads from time to time.

Been skating them for almost 2 years, favorite truck set-up I have skated. Clearance for days, even after hitting axle.

Thunder 149 Ti, switched to older cast baseplates early on, Krēpēr kingpin, recently replaced original shot bushings with Thunder 94a bushings and Riptide pivot cup.

[Richard Skidder]

Seeing worn in Thunders makes me want to try Thunders again.

[drinny]

So I got nerdy on some Thunder with a Grindking conversion. (Actually Krēpēr conversion technically?) A friend showed me the method, it involves installing a threaded 3/8-24 insert. You drill out the kingpin hole to a certain slightly larger size, thread it with a course tap for the teeth on the outside of the insert, and then epoxy set it. No need for a nut! Though you do have to put some threadlock liquid on the kingpin threads from time to time.

Been skating them for almost 2 years, favorite truck set-up I have skated. Clearance for days, even after hitting axle.

Thunder 149 Ti, switched to older cast baseplates early on, Krēpēr kingpin, recently replaced original shot bushings with Thunder 94a bushings and Riptide pivot cup.

Damn that is quality.

Respect.

[munchbox]

So I got nerdy on some Thunder with a Grindking conversion. (Actually Krēpēr conversion technically?) A friend showed me the method, it involves installing a threaded 3/8-24 insert. You drill out the kingpin hole to a certain slightly larger size, thread it with a course tap for the teeth on the outside of the insert, and then epoxy set it. No need for a nut! Though you do have to put some threadlock liquid on the kingpin threads from time to time.

Been skating them for almost 2 years, favorite truck set-up I have skated. Clearance for days, even after hitting axle.

Thunder 149 Ti, switched to older cast baseplates early on, Krēpēr kingpin, recently replaced original shot bushings with Thunder 94a bushings and Riptide pivot cup.

fuck thats hot
whats the turn like with shorter kingpins compared to stock?

[stets]

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So I got nerdy on some Thunder with a Grindking conversion. (Actually Krēpēr conversion technically?) A friend showed me the method, it involves installing a threaded 3/8-24 insert. You drill out the kingpin hole to a certain slightly larger size, thread it with a course tap for the teeth on the outside of the insert, and then epoxy set it. No need for a nut! Though you do have to put some threadlock liquid on the kingpin threads from time to time.

Been skating them for almost 2 years, favorite truck set-up I have skated. Clearance for days, even after hitting axle.

Thunder 149 Ti, switched to older cast baseplates early on, Krēpēr kingpin, recently replaced original shot bushings with Thunder 94a bushings and Riptide pivot cup.

[close]

fuck thats hot
whats the turn like with shorter kingpins compared to stock?

The actual kingpin length isn't changed by this, still the same "stack height" of bottom bushing cup, bottom bushing, hanger yolk area, and top bushing. So I think it turns just the same as the stock pairs of Thunders I skated for years before these.

The only thing shorter is the area above the top bushing... greater clearance on a surfy yet snappy turning truck I've always loved.

[tzhangdox]

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So I got nerdy on some Thunder with a Grindking conversion. (Actually Krēpēr conversion technically?) A friend showed me the method, it involves installing a threaded 3/8-24 insert. You drill out the kingpin hole to a certain slightly larger size, thread it with a course tap for the teeth on the outside of the insert, and then epoxy set it. No need for a nut! Though you do have to put some threadlock liquid on the kingpin threads from time to time.

Been skating them for almost 2 years, favorite truck set-up I have skated. Clearance for days, even after hitting axle.

Thunder 149 Ti, switched to older cast baseplates early on, Krēpēr kingpin, recently replaced original shot bushings with Thunder 94a bushings and Riptide pivot cup.

[close]

fuck thats hot
whats the turn like with shorter kingpins compared to stock?

I did this on Thunders with the krux pins a few years ago, doesn't make a difference except for kingpin clearance. and if you're not after kingpin clearance its defs not worth it.

[munchbox]

i heard its a pain in the ass to do that with thunder forged baseplates and i dont really sorry about kingpin clearance atm so id have to pass on trying it personally.

functionality looks sick though, love to see broken in thunders

[Skart]

169's on 8.75 with the newer top washer and riptide cups...
All I have, but I really want to go back to 44s on 8.25

Washer is almost too big/chunky but it totally stops wheelbite

Starting to manual up a chill hill, hopefully getting.. Progress

[Ok]

169's on 8.75 with the newer top washer and riptide cups...
All I have, but I really want to go back to 44s on 8.25

Washer is almost too big/chunky but it totally stops wheelbite

Starting to manual up a chill hill, hopefully getting.. Progress

I think 8.25 and 44s is where I’m leaning/headed. Haven’t found the ‘one’, as far as decks go.
I really hope they don’t change 44s to 8.5”, cuz that seems wack.

[jay_nev]

169's on 8.75 with the newer top washer and riptide cups...
All I have, but I really want to go back to 44s on 8.25

Washer is almost too big/chunky but it totally stops wheelbite

Starting to manual up a chill hill, hopefully getting.. Progress

ok ok.. stock bushings? why new top washer?

[Skart]

Word Ok, I've liked 44's on the 8.25 classic eagle just because that's the most legitimate board I can get locally. I like the size though with 51-52 classics. The most stable I've felt once I tighten up the aces.

All stock indy Jay, just the newest stock stuff when they switched away from the gummy/old bushings. For me at least, bought the trucks late 2019

[mbam003]

What's the size difference between Indy Stage 9/10 (USA made) and 11 stock bushings? Worried the modern aftermarkets conicals won't fit my 10s.

[j....soy.....]

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So I got nerdy on some Thunder with a Grindking conversion. (Actually Krēpēr conversion technically?) A friend showed me the method, it involves installing a threaded 3/8-24 insert. You drill out the kingpin hole to a certain slightly larger size, thread it with a course tap for the teeth on the outside of the insert, and then epoxy set it. No need for a nut! Though you do have to put some threadlock liquid on the kingpin threads from time to time.

Been skating them for almost 2 years, favorite truck set-up I have skated. Clearance for days, even after hitting axle.

Thunder 149 Ti, switched to older cast baseplates early on, Krēpēr kingpin, recently replaced original shot bushings with Thunder 94a bushings and Riptide pivot cup.

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fuck thats hot
whats the turn like with shorter kingpins compared to stock?

[close]

I did this on Thunders with the krux pins a few years ago, doesn't make a difference except for kingpin clearance. and if you're not after kingpin clearance its defs not worth it.

I still run it and like it.  Clearance sucks on thunders and with the krux at least, not tough to do.  There isn't much meat to a thunder so I find you get close to the kingpin crazy fast.  Stuff like smiths too....it's nothing but truck.

[legion]

i heard its a pain in the ass to do that with thunder forged baseplates and i dont really sorry about kingpin clearance atm so id have to pass on trying it personally.

functionality looks sick though, love to see broken in thunders

I think the reason it's tougher for forged baseplates is cuz they're thinner. There isn't enough room in the void underneath the kingpin to completely fit the nut. Just need to grind the nut shorter. While keeping it square..

This threaded insert method eliminates that issue but to me it'd be more work overall. Drilling, tapping..
Stets. Did you use a helicoil or a timesert?
Did it look like a slinky or a solid tube with threads?
Rivet nut might be another option..

TBH I'd wanna do this with a jig to hold the kingpin angle.
How do you know it's straight left to right?
Or at the same 75* as the old kingpin?

There's also no nyloc with threaded BP. Could use a drop of liquid threadlock if it gets loose.

[PeskOne]

Finally got some 5.6’s. I always rode 5.2s on an 8.25 and it never bothered me, so I’m curious to see the difference.

I got 5.6 on 8 board, felt okay, but just started again after the summer, and had indy 8s on 8 board before and it felt somewhat better mostly because I didn't ghost pop, but that was probably just I wasn't used to Ventures. Now I got them on my Primitive 8.125 and I think I will never change trucks again. Last summer I experimented a lot with different trucks. Thunders were my mains when I skated the most. And before that, it was like any brand, first Indy, hated them, was just beginner, then like Grind king, then like Ventures. remember I had a pair of Element trucks that sucked too. Then I got blessed when I started skating Thunders and only rode them until last summer were I tried Indies in different sizes and sometimes switched to Thunders again. I was worried as hell buying Ventures 5.6 but now I don't want to skate anything else. I think I would do good on an 8 board with the 5.6 now too. But I'm thinking about trying out 8.25 again, but it's hard to find 8.25 with 14 wheelbase. I only ride 14 wheelbase.

Do you guys think 14 wheelbase makes a big difference if you switch to 14.25 wheelbase on Venture trucks? I'm scared to try, because I really like Ventures but only skated them on 14 wheelbase.

[Ok]

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Finally got some 5.6’s. I always rode 5.2s on an 8.25 and it never bothered me, so I’m curious to see the difference.

[close]

I got 5.6 on 8 board, felt okay, but just started again after the summer, and had indy 8s on 8 board before and it felt somewhat better mostly because I didn't ghost pop, but that was probably just I wasn't used to Ventures. Now I got them on my Primitive 8.125 and I think I will never change trucks again. Last summer I experimented a lot with different trucks. Thunders were my mains when I skated the most. And before that, it was like any brand, first Indy, hated them, was just beginner, then like Grind king, then like Ventures. remember I had a pair of Element trucks that sucked too. Then I got blessed when I started skating Thunders and only rode them until last summer were I tried Indies in different sizes and sometimes switched to Thunders again. I was worried as hell buying Ventures 5.6 but now I don't want to skate anything else. I think I would do good on an 8 board with the 5.6 now too. But I'm thinking about trying out 8.25 again, but it's hard to find 8.25 with 14 wheelbase. I only ride 14 wheelbase.

Do you guys think 14 wheelbase makes a big difference if you switch to 14.25 wheelbase on Venture trucks? I'm scared to try, because I really like Ventures but only skated them on 14 wheelbase.

My personal experience is that wb, truck brand matching to certain deck, perfect witches brew etc etc, is all only really necessary once I got past a certain point. Once I go past 8” trucks shit needs to be specific

[sadnocomply]

Plenty of people make 8.25 with 14 inch wheelbase, girl/chocolate, April/primitive, business & co just to name a few

[Vintagebody]

I cant believe it... I broke another kingpin... Is Thunder a effin joke?
Both times I skated flatground, which I always do....

[munchbox]

I cant believe it... I broke another kingpin... Is Thunder a effin joke?
Both times I skated flatground, which I always do....

what thunders? might want to take them off your hands if they are a size i ride

[FrenchFriedClownFingers]

I cant believe it... I broke another kingpin... Is Thunder a effin joke?
Both times I skated flatground, which I always do....

dont lose faith man, i had this happen but the pair they sent me to replace them has been going well for over a year. i ride 148s

[Ayo95]

Hey guys, looking to pickup some Venture 5.6s tomorrow and wanted to see how they would pair with a 8.25 deck. I like the stability from when a truck is bigger than the board but will it  feel that much different if I rock wider wheels? Working with a 8.25 DOA deck if that helps, thanks.

[Xen]

Hey guys, looking to pickup some Venture 5.6s tomorrow and wanted to see how they would pair with a 8.25 deck. I like the stability from when a truck is bigger than the board but will it feel that much different if I rock wider wheels? Working with a 8.25 DOA deck if that helps, thanks.

Like any other 8.25" truck, they will work just fine on an 8.25" deck.

Wider wheels might give you a [placebo] sense of greater stabilty?