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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #9630 on: January 05, 2021, 08:15:43 AM »
anyone know why some Lizzies have the baseplate crest and some don't?



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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #9631 on: January 05, 2021, 10:47:57 AM »
There's a thread on it. The cross got cancelled.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #9632 on: January 05, 2021, 10:51:32 AM »
Womyn's right to choose.....

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #9633 on: January 05, 2021, 11:01:24 AM »
8.25 trucks on an 8.5 board.

Thoughts?

Curious about stability. Currently paired with spitfire classics.

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« Reply #9634 on: January 05, 2021, 11:09:49 AM »
8.25 trucks on an 8.5 board.

Thoughts?

Curious about stability. Currently paired with spitfire classics.

Perfectly fine IMO, I've done it many times no stability issues, maybe throw an extra speed ring on the inside

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #9635 on: January 05, 2021, 11:50:36 AM »
I got some 215s for a Heroin Mutant setup.  Placed on an 8.5 w/ 149s for scale  :D

I was going to put the indy aftermarket bushings in but the stock top bushing is way taller.  I'll probably swap the baseplates to the reverse kingpins when they are released


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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #9636 on: January 05, 2021, 01:19:00 PM »
That's a tight wheelbase....

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #9637 on: January 05, 2021, 03:21:30 PM »
I got some 215s for a Heroin Mutant setup.  Placed on an 8.5 w/ 149s for scale  :D

I was going to put the indy aftermarket bushings in but the stock top bushing is way taller.  I'll probably swap the baseplates to the reverse kingpins when they are released


I like the lower tops (and it will not affect the skate at all) but you can have the nut down lower for less drag or if you like them loose, you will get the nut on cleanly without having to stop to tighten it every second run the way some people used to when the bushings were too hard.

Stock definitely work if you like the 90 duro feel.  What duro did you get in the aftermarkets?

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #9638 on: January 05, 2021, 04:35:13 PM »
So I just set up my first set of Thunders (standard 149s) on my 8.5 Anti hero and I don’t think I’ll be going back to Indys . This shit fucking rocks. Better turn, better pop, and frontside slappies just click now.

Now my truck madness is creeping in and I’m starting to wonder what my options are as far as bushings go. I ride loose but not wobbly loose, is it worth replacing the stock bushings with something else? The stocks feel good to me as is but do they harden over time? How are the deluxe super cush?  I don’t like bones bushings at all so that’s a no.

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« Reply #9639 on: January 05, 2021, 05:20:37 PM »
So I just set up my first set of Thunders (standard 149s) on my 8.5 Anti hero and I don’t think I’ll be going back to Indys . This shit fucking rocks. Better turn, better pop, and frontside slappies just click now.

Now my truck madness is creeping in and I’m starting to wonder what my options are as far as bushings go. I ride loose but not wobbly loose, is it worth replacing the stock bushings with something else? The stocks feel good to me as is but do they harden over time? How are the deluxe super cush?  I don’t like bones bushings at all so that’s a no.
yea just break them in they turn the best with the stock bushings I’ve tested others not sure about supercush

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #9640 on: January 05, 2021, 05:22:18 PM »
8.18 board
Thunder 148 hollows (stock, no washers removed or replacement bushings)
52mm Spitfire Formula 4 classics or tablets

Thinking about trying Ventures.  Rode only Ventures from 1997 to 2005, got back into skating years ago (off and on) and I guess I figured I'd try Thunders or Indy's like everybody else did apparently.  Went to the park years ago and saw that I was the only one on skinny venture lows and a 7.75.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #9641 on: January 05, 2021, 05:27:49 PM »
So I just set up my first set of Thunders (standard 149s) on my 8.5 Anti hero and I don’t think I’ll be going back to Indys . This shit fucking rocks. Better turn, better pop, and frontside slappies just click now.

Now my truck madness is creeping in and I’m starting to wonder what my options are as far as bushings go. I ride loose but not wobbly loose, is it worth replacing the stock bushings with something else? The stocks feel good to me as is but do they harden over time? How are the deluxe super cush?  I don’t like bones bushings at all so that’s a no.

imho stock are a fine choice in thunders the main issue is that they tend to crumble after a while, but you can also skate them crumbled for a pretty damn long time sometimes. I can't remember what they do while breaking in, if you want looser or harder just try the next duro over. Ace classic bottom/stock top is also fairly popular for good reason (my personal favorite), you can get pretty loose and turny but add a little stability/less wheelbite, it takes a while to break in though and can be pretty rough at first.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #9642 on: January 05, 2021, 05:36:17 PM »

imho stock are a fine choice in thunders the main issue is that they tend to crumble after a while, but you can also skate them crumbled for a pretty damn long time sometimes. I can't remember what they do while breaking in, if you want looser or harder just try the next duro over. Ace classic bottom/stock top is also fairly popular for good reason (my personal favorite), you can get pretty loose and turny but add a little stability/less wheelbite, it takes a while to break in though and can be pretty rough at first.
yea just break them in they turn the best with the stock bushings I’ve tested others not sure about supercush

Sick, good to know. Stock it is!

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« Reply #9643 on: January 05, 2021, 06:05:35 PM »
Best stock bushings I've used, literally never adjusted a Thunder kingpin nut.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #9644 on: January 06, 2021, 01:02:42 AM »
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So I just set up my first set of Thunders (standard 149s) on my 8.5 Anti hero and I don’t think I’ll be going back to Indys . This shit fucking rocks. Better turn, better pop, and frontside slappies just click now.

Now my truck madness is creeping in and I’m starting to wonder what my options are as far as bushings go. I ride loose but not wobbly loose, is it worth replacing the stock bushings with something else? The stocks feel good to me as is but do they harden over time? How are the deluxe super cush?  I don’t like bones bushings at all so that’s a no.
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imho stock are a fine choice in thunders the main issue is that they tend to crumble after a while, but you can also skate them crumbled for a pretty damn long time sometimes. I can't remember what they do while breaking in, if you want looser or harder just try the next duro over. Ace classic bottom/stock top is also fairly popular for good reason (my personal favorite), you can get pretty loose and turny but add a little stability/less wheelbite, it takes a while to break in though and can be pretty rough at first.

Re Thunder bushings - yes stock bushings are good, even if they start to come away a little in one area on the bottom bushing (usually heavy heel landings) they can be turned around and still skated fine for a long time as I have pointed out to lots of people who were asking about buying new bushings.


I have tried the Thunder "bushing rebuild kits", the red 90, the blue 95 and the black 100 all skate fine but take a bit to get nice and worn in.  I am not a fan of the metallic coloured nuts and washers, but they do come with pivot cups as well, so for the price, they are also pretty good.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #9645 on: January 06, 2021, 05:58:33 AM »
I was a Thunder guy for 10 years. Lately been on other trucks to kind of test the field but other reason was that got annoyed because those stock bushings would get destroyed so fast. I ride my trucks stock loose and still those bushings would just explode.

Last set i rode, i changed Indy conical bushings which are same height but little wider and didn't have any problems with them.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #9646 on: January 06, 2021, 07:56:11 AM »
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8.25 trucks on an 8.5 board.

Thoughts?

Curious about stability. Currently paired with spitfire classics.
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Perfectly fine IMO, I've done it many times no stability issues, maybe throw an extra speed ring on the inside

Set it up yesterday and it works great thanks

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #9647 on: January 07, 2021, 07:02:51 AM »
ACE with 1$ inverted kingpin from German eBay.
Works just fine so far. I already had my top bushing cut half so I don't know how a stock one would fit.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #9648 on: January 07, 2021, 09:09:56 AM »
Ended up with a pair of Indy 139 from a buddy that were pretty used but still had some life. While taking it apart I realized the threads on the axle nut had been stripped to the extent that the nut can't be remove. Turning it just caused the nut to spin on the axle with zero movement up the thread.

Anyone have any advice on how to remove a stuck axle nut? I don't have access to a workshop or heavy machine so cutting is not an option.
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« Reply #9649 on: January 07, 2021, 10:35:17 AM »
Can you tighten it at all right now?

If so, I'd tighten it as much as possible to expose the threads, then just file at 45* the most gnarled bits.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #9650 on: January 07, 2021, 10:48:15 AM »
ACE with 1$ inverted kingpin from German eBay.
Works just fine so far. I already had my top bushing cut half so I don't know how a stock one would fit.



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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #9651 on: January 07, 2021, 10:51:56 AM »
I would try heating up the nut with a torch or a lighter to expand it, and then try taking a wrench to it.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #9652 on: January 07, 2021, 01:57:06 PM »
Ended up with a pair of Indy 139 from a buddy that were pretty used but still had some life. While taking it apart I realized the threads on the axle nut had been stripped to the extent that the nut can't be remove. Turning it just caused the nut to spin on the axle with zero movement up the thread.

Anyone have any advice on how to remove a stuck axle nut? I don't have access to a workshop or heavy machine so cutting is not an option.


a Dremel with a cut off wheel will bust a nut.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #9653 on: January 07, 2021, 03:29:40 PM »

No cross in Ti149, interesting. Kinda miss it.
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forgive me if i somehow missed it, but could someone help me with just how flat the flat as fuck decks really are?
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #9654 on: January 07, 2021, 03:49:48 PM »
Ended up with a pair of Indy 139 from a buddy that were pretty used but still had some life. While taking it apart I realized the threads on the axle nut had been stripped to the extent that the nut can't be remove. Turning it just caused the nut to spin on the axle with zero movement up the thread.

Anyone have any advice on how to remove a stuck axle nut? I don't have access to a workshop or heavy machine so cutting is not an option.

Had this happen occasionally.  A decent set of grips / pliers is the lightest way to deal with it, as in no machining or cutting the nut off, just get the grips and pull as you turn, which will make the nut bite into the axle thread and come undone.

Most likely the axle of the truck should be fine, just the nut itself is stripped out, but I have seen truck axle threads messed up too.

Let me know if you need a bit more info / help with it and I will send you some info.

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« Reply #9655 on: January 07, 2021, 03:51:20 PM »

No cross in Ti149, interesting. Kinda miss it.

They do look a little plain without it don't they. 

At least they are silver and they still do everything an Indy truck should do.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #9656 on: January 07, 2021, 03:57:39 PM »
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No cross in Ti149, interesting. Kinda miss it.
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They do look a little plain without it don't they. 

At least they are silver and they still do everything an Indy truck should do.

Looks like the stage 7 Indy's I got off a craigslist board a year or so ago. Blank was the norm from the late 70's till the late 90's. Throwback vibes.
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« Reply #9657 on: January 07, 2021, 04:35:04 PM »
Speaking of the tindys, are they worth it?
flat spotted 3 times in 2 weeks, other than that awesome wheels

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« Reply #9658 on: January 07, 2021, 04:44:09 PM »

No cross in Ti149, interesting. Kinda miss it.


Those look way sicker without the cross imo. Indys have such a great looking hanger. I can feel the lust  coming on for some cross-less 144 mids. Must resist.
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« Reply #9659 on: January 07, 2021, 06:20:26 PM »
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Ended up with a pair of Indy 139 from a buddy that were pretty used but still had some life. While taking it apart I realized the threads on the axle nut had been stripped to the extent that the nut can't be remove. Turning it just caused the nut to spin on the axle with zero movement up the thread.

Anyone have any advice on how to remove a stuck axle nut? I don't have access to a workshop or heavy machine so cutting is not an option.
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Had this happen occasionally.  A decent set of grips / pliers is the lightest way to deal with it, as in no machining or cutting the nut off, just get the grips and pull as you turn, which will make the nut bite into the axle thread and come undone.

Most likely the axle of the truck should be fine, just the nut itself is stripped out, but I have seen truck axle threads messed up too.

Let me know if you need a bit more info / help with it and I will send you some info.

Thanks, I'll give this a go later today when I setup a board for later. The kingpin was cranked down so hard they popped out of the washer, so I'll need to revive them with some new ones, rethread the axles, swap out the pivot cups and change out nuts.

Edit: thread of the nut seems completely stripped, using pliers in either direction just causes rotation with zero tightening or loosening. On the other end I have a nut that is completely rounded over on all 8 sides, spanner, skate tool and pliers can't get a good grip to unscrew the nut off the axle. Help.
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5.0 & 5.2 LO
STANDARD - 1.88” - 47.75mm
FORGED - 1.85”- 46.99mm

5.0 ,5.2, 5.6, 5.8 & 6.1 HI
STANDARD - 2.09” - 53.09mm
FORGED - 2.04” - 51.82m