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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #9780 on: January 23, 2021, 12:15:01 PM »
Anyone running 139s on an 8.25? Been enjoying my screw around 8 inch deck recently, but I want to try out the 8.25 shape Polar does. I know Andrew Reynolds has always been on 139s on bigger boards, but I'm curious how the more average skater feels about this setup. The weight and height of standard 139's has just been feeling great.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #9781 on: January 23, 2021, 12:38:48 PM »
Anyone running 139s on an 8.25? Been enjoying my screw around 8 inch deck recently, but I want to try out the 8.25 shape Polar does. I know Andrew Reynolds has always been on 139s on bigger boards, but I'm curious how the more average skater feels about this setup. The weight and height of standard 139's has just been feeling great.

Yeah I rock 139 venture on a 8.25 and it fells fine.
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #9782 on: January 23, 2021, 01:48:44 PM »
I've ridden 139 on that Polar shape, but prefer the Polar 8" shape which is almost identical aside from the width and a 1/8" longer tail

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« Reply #9783 on: January 23, 2021, 02:27:51 PM »
Maybe this should go in the bearing thread, but does anyone not run inside axle washers? I used to run one as normal, but want to have my wheels a tiny bit more tucked in. Dont have shields, so those wont rub on the side of the hanger, I don't see anything else besides the inner bearing race making contact... is that a problem?

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #9784 on: January 23, 2021, 06:10:52 PM »
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Anyone running 139s on an 8.25? Been enjoying my screw around 8 inch deck recently, but I want to try out the 8.25 shape Polar does. I know Andrew Reynolds has always been on 139s on bigger boards, but I'm curious how the more average skater feels about this setup. The weight and height of standard 139's has just been feeling great.
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Yeah I rock 139 venture on a 8.25 and it fells fine.

Big fan of those proportions. You can always docs your wheels a little further out with washers if you need as well.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #9785 on: January 23, 2021, 06:51:53 PM »
I think on nine club they mention ishod runs this set up too...

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #9786 on: January 23, 2021, 08:15:07 PM »
Maybe this should go in the bearing thread, but does anyone not run inside axle washers? I used to run one as normal, but want to have my wheels a tiny bit more tucked in. Dont have shields, so those wont rub on the side of the hanger, I don't see anything else besides the inner bearing race making contact... is that a problem?

If the truck is not rubbing on the moving parts of the bearing or wheel, then go for it!


I think on nine club they mention ishod runs this set up too...

Yes having more washers moves wheels out (up a whole size of truck if you have 3 on the inside of each) and not having any on the inside brings the trucks down some too.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #9787 on: January 23, 2021, 08:21:02 PM »
3 washers on the hanger side gives the same wheel
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #9788 on: January 23, 2021, 08:26:28 PM »
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Maybe this should go in the bearing thread, but does anyone not run inside axle washers? I used to run one as normal, but want to have my wheels a tiny bit more tucked in. Dont have shields, so those wont rub on the side of the hanger, I don't see anything else besides the inner bearing race making contact... is that a problem?
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If the truck is not rubbing on the moving parts of the bearing or wheel, then go for it!


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I think on nine club they mention ishod runs this set up too...
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Yes having more washers moves wheels out (up a whole size of truck if you have 3 on the inside of each) and not having any on the inside brings the trucks down some too.

Yeah ages ago on ace 44s I used to do about 3 washers on the inside so that they felt like a true 8.5 truck give or take. On venture 5.8s I normally just do one inside two on the outside but wanted to see what it was like with none on the inside. Its only the inner race that touches the truck (it would touch the washer otherwise), and the inner race isnt really meant to spin anyway so I think it should be ok. Hopefully I dont end up regretting this and having a bunch of blown out swiss in a few weeks

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #9789 on: January 23, 2021, 08:30:45 PM »
3 washers on the hanger side gives the same wheel
Position as the next size up in trucks? Interesting.

More so for the Indy 139 - 144 - 149 sizes, but I put three on the inside of my 149s with bigger wheels and it almost lines up to the single washer on a set of 159s that I have with not so wide wheels.

If the washer is about 1mm in width, an extra 4 mm in total wheel push out definitely makes a difference.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #9790 on: January 26, 2021, 11:46:46 AM »
I just went down a rabbit hole of modding some Tensor ATG Mag Lights. I was interested to try out the lightest trucks possible, plus I hear mag hangers grind like butter. However, I am not a fan of painted trucks, so I stripped it and then hit it with a mag car wheel polish/sealer to help at least a little against oxidation. Here's one stripped and one with the paint.



I went full geek mode and swapped out some parts to make them lighter and turn more to my liking.

Tensor ATG Mag Light 5.75 (8.5 inch)
-Tensor stock top bushing, Titanium top bushing cup from eBay.
-Bones hard bottom bushing, no bushing cup.
-Riptide pivot cups.
-ACER Racing titanium axel nuts (thinner, allowing one extra speed washer on hanger side, got on Black Friday sale)
-ACER Racing titanium kingpin nut (also thinner, also on Black Friday sale)
-Individual truck started at 274g, and now weighs in at 256g



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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #9791 on: January 26, 2021, 12:43:34 PM »
I just went down a rabbit hole of modding some Tensor ATG Mag Lights. I was interested to try out the lightest trucks possible, plus I hear mag hangers grind like butter. However, I am not a fan of painted trucks, so I stripped it and then hit it with a mag car wheel polish/sealer to help at least a little against oxidation. Here's one stripped and one with the paint.



I went full geek mode and swapped out some parts to make them lighter and turn more to my liking.

Tensor ATG Mag Light 5.75 (8.5 inch)
-Tensor stock top bushing, Titanium top bushing cup from eBay.
-Bones hard bottom bushing, no bushing cup.
-Riptide pivot cups.
-ACER Racing titanium axel nuts (thinner, allowing one extra speed washer on hanger side, got on Black Friday sale)
-ACER Racing titanium kingpin nut (also thinner, also on Black Friday sale)
-Individual truck started at 274g, and now weighs in at 256g





Must say I enjoyed to read all that nerd stuff :)
Tell us how you like them. I seen your riptide's have a bit of overhang, could that be s Problem? Mine also have a bit of overhang but I couldn't realise any problems.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #9792 on: January 26, 2021, 01:11:46 PM »
I just went down a rabbit hole of modding some Tensor ATG Mag Lights. I was interested to try out the lightest trucks possible, plus I hear mag hangers grind like butter. However, I am not a fan of painted trucks, so I stripped it and then hit it with a mag car wheel polish/sealer to help at least a little against oxidation. Here's one stripped and one with the paint.



I went full geek mode and swapped out some parts to make them lighter and turn more to my liking.

Tensor ATG Mag Light 5.75 (8.5 inch)
-Tensor stock top bushing, Titanium top bushing cup from eBay.
-Bones hard bottom bushing, no bushing cup.
-Riptide pivot cups.
-ACER Racing titanium axel nuts (thinner, allowing one extra speed washer on hanger side, got on Black Friday sale)
-ACER Racing titanium kingpin nut (also thinner, also on Black Friday sale)
-Individual truck started at 274g, and now weighs in at 256g

those washers look wild

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #9793 on: January 26, 2021, 01:23:14 PM »
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I just went down a rabbit hole of modding some Tensor ATG Mag Lights. I was interested to try out the lightest trucks possible, plus I hear mag hangers grind like butter. However, I am not a fan of painted trucks, so I stripped it and then hit it with a mag car wheel polish/sealer to help at least a little against oxidation. Here's one stripped and one with the paint.



I went full geek mode and swapped out some parts to make them lighter and turn more to my liking.

Tensor ATG Mag Light 5.75 (8.5 inch)
-Tensor stock top bushing, Titanium top bushing cup from eBay.
-Bones hard bottom bushing, no bushing cup.
-Riptide pivot cups.
-ACER Racing titanium axel nuts (thinner, allowing one extra speed washer on hanger side, got on Black Friday sale)
-ACER Racing titanium kingpin nut (also thinner, also on Black Friday sale)
-Individual truck started at 274g, and now weighs in at 256g

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those washers look wild

Those look so good, Im not a fan of how the raw mags are that weird paired grey. I made it to the axle in like 8 or 9 months of crooks and nosegrinds

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #9794 on: January 26, 2021, 01:37:50 PM »
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those washers look wild

Yeah, they definitely do! They aren't rounded like a traditional pressed metal bushing cup. Sharp edges, so these are machined instead I guess? Or forged?

Found them again. Damn, the price went up! I bought these bushing cups two years ago and they were half this price.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Titanium-Hardware-Skateboard-Bushing-Cup-Washer-S-18-5mm/113809364160


Those look so good, Im not a fan of how the raw mags are that weird paired grey. I made it to the axle in like 8 or 9 months of crooks and nosegrinds

Thanks! And thanks for the timeframe on reaching axle... so if they end up feeling weird to me I won't be stuck skating them 2 years to hit axle, like these Thunders I just retired!
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #9795 on: January 26, 2021, 01:39:05 PM »
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Yeah, they definitely do! They aren't rounded like a traditional pressed metal bushing cup. Sharp edges, so these are machined instead I guess? Or forged?

Found them again. Damn, the price went up! I bought these bushing cups two years ago and they were half this price.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Titanium-Hardware-Skateboard-Bushing-Cup-Washer-S-18-5mm/113809364160

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Those look so good, Im not a fan of how the raw mags are that weird paired grey. I made it to the axle in like 8 or 9 months of crooks and nosegrinds
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Thanks! And thanks for the timeframe on reaching axle... so if they end up feeling weird to me I won't be stuck skating them 2 years to hit axle, like these Thunders I just retired!

If you skate concrete ledges, curbs or just hold your grinds in general you'll hit axle soooo quick on these things.

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« Reply #9796 on: January 26, 2021, 05:41:46 PM »
My mate had these and he hit axle in less than 3 months, skating angle iron. When he was grinding there would be flakes of the alloy similar to when you sharpen a pencil. I think he retired them after 1 tear and sent me some pictures that i lost. The axle was showing along the entire hanger on both trucks. I will ask for the pics and hopedully will be able to post them here.

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« Reply #9797 on: January 26, 2021, 10:28:57 PM »
I just went down a rabbit hole of modding some Tensor ATG Mag Lights. I was interested to try out the lightest trucks possible, plus I hear mag hangers grind like butter. However, I am not a fan of painted trucks, so I stripped it and then hit it with a mag car wheel polish/sealer to help at least a little against oxidation. Here's one stripped and one with the paint.



I went full geek mode and swapped out some parts to make them lighter and turn more to my liking.

Tensor ATG Mag Light 5.75 (8.5 inch)
-Tensor stock top bushing, Titanium top bushing cup from eBay.
-Bones hard bottom bushing, no bushing cup.
-Riptide pivot cups.
-ACER Racing titanium axel nuts (thinner, allowing one extra speed washer on hanger side, got on Black Friday sale)
-ACER Racing titanium kingpin nut (also thinner, also on Black Friday sale)
-Individual truck started at 274g, and now weighs in at 256g





WOW - looks so much better stripped, thanks for sharing, so sick! Ive got to get some of those titanium nuts, never thought of that, great idea!

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #9798 on: January 27, 2021, 05:39:33 AM »
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those washers look wild
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Yeah, they definitely do! They aren't rounded like a traditional pressed metal bushing cup. Sharp edges, so these are machined instead I guess? Or forged?

Found them again. Damn, the price went up! I bought these bushing cups two years ago and they were half this price.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Titanium-Hardware-Skateboard-Bushing-Cup-Washer-S-18-5mm/113809364160

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Those look so good, Im not a fan of how the raw mags are that weird paired grey. I made it to the axle in like 8 or 9 months of crooks and nosegrinds
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Thanks! And thanks for the timeframe on reaching axle... so if they end up feeling weird to me I won't be stuck skating them 2 years to hit axle, like these Thunders I just retired!
  how did u strip them so well??  I've been tempted to try something like this
but I thought I read something about tensor's being powder coated for a reason.

Two things I would be a very happy if tensor made mag light ATG's that looked like this
2nd I am jealous those things look sick

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« Reply #9799 on: January 27, 2021, 07:25:57 AM »
Those trucks look sweet. I dig all the bling.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #9800 on: January 27, 2021, 05:00:46 PM »
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Thanks! And thanks for the timeframe on reaching axle... so if they end up feeling weird to me I won't be stuck skating them 2 years to hit axle, like these Thunders I just retired!
  how did u strip them so well??  I've been tempted to try something like this
but I thought I read something about tensor's being powder coated for a reason.

Two things I would be a very happy if tensor made mag light ATG's that looked like this
2nd I am jealous those things look sick
They're coated to protect them from corrosion, as magnesium degrades when exposed.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #9801 on: January 27, 2021, 10:56:11 PM »
  how did u strip them so well??  I've been tempted to try something like this
but I thought I read something about tensor's being powder coated for a reason.

Two things I would be a very happy if tensor made mag light ATG's that looked like this
2nd I am jealous those things look sick

Definitely was more like automotive paint. Just took some lacquer thinner and 00 steel wool and some time!! Polished lightly wit a magnesium rim sealer after.


They're coated to protect them from corrosion, as magnesium degrades when exposed.

Yep. Magnesium oxidizes quicker than aluminum (which is why I used a mag wheel polish/sealer after stripping... we will see if it stalls the oxidation at all). Aluminum oxidizes over time on trucks too, that's why like stage 8 Indy's look duller than brand new ones.
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« Reply #9802 on: January 28, 2021, 07:50:15 AM »
Madness got me curious to try those ATG tensors now, with mag plates and raw aluminum hangers. Can anyone comment on the strength of the baseplates? Did the bolt holes ovalize any faster, kingpin wiggle loose? etc.

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« Reply #9803 on: January 28, 2021, 03:40:50 PM »
Madness got me curious to try those ATG tensors now, with mag plates and raw aluminum hangers. Can anyone comment on the strength of the baseplates? Did the bolt holes ovalize any faster, kingpin wiggle loose? etc.

I've had a set of 5.75 mag lights on my regular set up since March last year
I cracked the pivot cup (I replaced it) on one and switched to bones bushings about 6 months in
They soft, sound and feel a little weird but quality wise Tensor's are very well made

My trucks are fair loose and the hanger don't wiggle like it would in say Ventures
Have not noticed any problems with bolts holes ovalising yet either

I like em alot but would fully understand that some people wouldn't
they ridiculously light, soft and feel weirdly hollow
i wasn't impressed at first but now I have a back up set on ice and won't be switching back anything soon

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #9804 on: January 28, 2021, 06:50:59 PM »
https://youtu.be/HE3kFwDlD7g

Getting into the washer talk on Nine Club. Skip to 13:53 to hear Rog talk about washers.
Skip to 11:32 for talk on spacers and washer.

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« Reply #9805 on: January 28, 2021, 07:17:22 PM »
https://youtu.be/HE3kFwDlD7g

Getting into the washer talk on Nine Club. Skip to 13:53 to hear Rog talk about washers.
Skip to 11:32 for talk on spacers and washer.
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #9806 on: January 28, 2021, 09:08:18 PM »
Sometimes the incorrect terminology causes so much more confusion.

Truck axle, axle nut, axle washers, bearing spacers, bearing... 

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #9807 on: January 28, 2021, 10:12:55 PM »
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https://youtu.be/HE3kFwDlD7g

Getting into the washer talk on Nine Club. Skip to 13:53 to hear Rog talk about washers.
Skip to 11:32 for talk on spacers and washer.
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #9808 on: January 28, 2021, 10:24:14 PM »
i've realized that it takes about the exact same time for me to warm up as for my bushings to freeze...naturally.

anyone got bushings that that resist freezing??  i'm on stock thunders with an indy super soft top/front.

don't mind the cold (sans wind) otherwise.

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« Reply #9809 on: January 29, 2021, 03:13:55 AM »
i've realized that it takes about the exact same time for me to warm up as for my bushings to freeze...naturally.

anyone got bushings that that resist freezing??  i'm on stock thunders with an indy super soft top/front.

don't mind the cold (sans wind) otherwise.

Riding bones hard HC bushings and never had an issue so far -  and yes I have been skating at around freezing temperatures albeit not more than an hour.