My wife just bought a kitchen scale so I decided to do a little test between the Ace Hollow hardware and the Shorty's Lights that I normally use. All sets are 7/8 allen.

The bolts themselves weigh the exact same, so the only weight savings comes with the thinner nuts that Shorty's uses. Could pair the Ace bolts with the Shorty's nuts to at least get the benefit of potentially not needing to use an allen key and Ace's claim that their bolts don't cause griptape swirls (that's never been a problem for me anyway as long as you only tighten from the nut side)
Thanks for that. Makes me happy / satisfied that Shortys are good, or even just buying a box of the low head nuts is a win, when I have the nyloc start to lose grip, so don't have to get new deck bolts either.
So good!
Did we ever decide what bolts resisted turning silver, or is it time to just accept it
From two sets of identical bolts, same brand, about the same time they were set up, one guy who swears by putting them down into the board and another who never puts them down in far enough (to my mind), sure enough the first set are still full black, the other set are all worn off and plain silver.
From the thoughts about this thread, I have seen quite a few people recently who didn't do up their bolts enough and sure enough they were having issues with the colour / paint rubbing off the heads.
Others who put their bolts on and do them up so they are a little below the top of the grip never have issues with bolts changing colour, or the paint wearing off, no matter what brand, myself included.
Make of that what you will.