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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #9720 on: January 14, 2021, 03:35:30 AM »
Im trying to skate some thunders after riding ventures forever, but I can't pop. idk if its the lack of stability or what, but i'm struggling.
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« Reply #9721 on: January 14, 2021, 04:09:08 AM »
Does anyone know if the thunder bushings sold as a repair kit are the same quality as the aftermarket thunder bushings that are sold as just bushings?

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« Reply #9722 on: January 14, 2021, 05:15:44 AM »
Does anyone know if the thunder bushings sold as a repair kit are the same quality as the aftermarket thunder bushings that are sold as just bushings?

They were / should be, but just check they are the right shape.

The small tube only has bushings, no washers or anything else, but come in a few more colours / options with duro - 90, 92, 94, 97, 100 and maybe others if I recall correctly but that was from a while ago now.

The rebuild kit has bushings, washers, axle and kingpin nuts and pivot cups, so if you can deal with crazy colours, they are usually worth the couple of extra dollars, but only in 90 red, 95 blue and 100 black.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #9723 on: January 14, 2021, 05:22:39 AM »
Does anyone know if the thunder bushings sold as a repair kit are the same quality as the aftermarket thunder bushings that are sold as just bushings?

Check all the pics from this one, even though you see bolts first, it has everything listed, as well as being a recent post too, so most likely in stock.


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« Reply #9724 on: January 14, 2021, 09:34:51 AM »
Continuing down the rabbit hole of light vs. "heavy" trucks I laced up standard thunder 149's last night.  I hope it is not confirmation bias, but they seemed to behave as I had hoped. The pop was good and the board definitely stuck to my feet more.  My catch on kickflips and heelflips was very nice (for my level of skill, at least). No issues with rocketing.  Again, maybe it is all in my head and I just caught a good session with fresh legs, but either way I'm going to stay on these for a bit.  That said, if anyone is interested in a mildly used set of 149 thunder titanium, let me know. I would be happy to offload them and clear inventory.  I'm thinking $25 including shipping to anywhere in continental US. Thanks!

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #9725 on: January 14, 2021, 03:36:18 PM »
Continuing down the rabbit hole of light vs. "heavy" trucks I laced up standard thunder 149's last night.  I hope it is not confirmation bias, but they seemed to behave as I had hoped. The pop was good and the board definitely stuck to my feet more.  My catch on kickflips and heelflips was very nice (for my level of skill, at least). No issues with rocketing.  Again, maybe it is all in my head and I just caught a good session with fresh legs, but either way I'm going to stay on these for a bit.  That said, if anyone is interested in a mildly used set of 149 thunder titanium, let me know. I would be happy to offload them and clear inventory.  I'm thinking $25 including shipping to anywhere in continental US. Thanks!

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« Reply #9726 on: January 15, 2021, 09:45:49 AM »
Continuing down the rabbit hole of light vs. "heavy" trucks I laced up standard thunder 149's last night.  I hope it is not confirmation bias, but they seemed to behave as I had hoped. The pop was good and the board definitely stuck to my feet more.  My catch on kickflips and heelflips was very nice (for my level of skill, at least). No issues with rocketing.  Again, maybe it is all in my head and I just caught a good session with fresh legs, but either way I'm going to stay on these for a bit.

i've thought about goin down to standard 149's from 159 titaniums in case i have this same reaction, lol. long ago i had a pair of 149's i loved, wondering if its still there.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #9727 on: January 15, 2021, 02:02:43 PM »
anyone know how many grams a downlow kingpin pin saves?

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« Reply #9728 on: January 15, 2021, 02:03:45 PM »
anyone know how many grams a downlow kingpin pin saves?
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« Reply #9729 on: January 15, 2021, 04:16:19 PM »
imo thunders with the cast baseplate is the perfect height with 54mm-51mm. No ghost pop and less wheel bite than with thunder forged.

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« Reply #9730 on: January 15, 2021, 07:22:04 PM »
Thanks for the help with bushings guys. I'm thinking of buying some thunder 161s. Anyone have any experience on them yet? I was using Indy 169 but just sold them. They felt way to squirrelly and unstable for me.

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« Reply #9731 on: January 15, 2021, 07:51:46 PM »
Thanks for the help with bushings guys. I'm thinking of buying some thunder 161s. Anyone have any experience on them yet? I was using Indy 169 but just sold them. They felt way to squirrelly and unstable for me.

I use 161s on some of my bigger set ups. Can be a little squirrely but not unstable, imo. I ride those somewhere between loose and medium. Feel lighter and less clunky than 169s but lower. I use 1/4 risers to avoid wheelbite. Pop is nice and crisp (I know it sounds silly, I dont know any other way to put it lol).


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« Reply #9732 on: January 17, 2021, 05:53:53 AM »
Bought some of the riptide pivot cups and some black Indy 94a bushings. Will report back!
how were they? Did you put the 94a in 169ti? Stock bushings too soft for me too

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« Reply #9733 on: January 17, 2021, 07:07:10 AM »
Had a decent session on 147 hollows. Anyone have a deck pairing they like?

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« Reply #9734 on: January 17, 2021, 07:30:49 AM »
Had a decent session on 147 hollows. Anyone have a deck pairing they like?

Forged plates/cast on a medium kick shorter WB deck works well for me...
The theories 8 inch 14.125wb deck works best imo.
*warning tho, theories decks are flat as fuck but decent kicks..

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #9735 on: January 17, 2021, 07:59:09 AM »
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Forged plates/cast on a medium kick shorter WB deck works well for me...
The theories 8 inch 14.125wb deck works best imo.
*warning tho, theories decks are flat as fuck but decent kicks..

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #9736 on: January 17, 2021, 09:13:36 AM »
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Had a decent session on 147 hollows. Anyone have a deck pairing they like?
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Forged plates/cast on a medium kick shorter WB deck works well for me...
The theories 8 inch 14.125wb deck works best imo.
*warning tho, theories decks are flat as fuck but decent kicks..

I'd pair Thunder forged with any deck with steep kicks to lower the pop. Ventures used to be my go to but the forged baseplate extends too far out.
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #9737 on: January 17, 2021, 09:33:30 AM »
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Had a decent session on 147 hollows. Anyone have a deck pairing they like?
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Forged plates/cast on a medium kick shorter WB deck works well for me...
The theories 8 inch 14.125wb deck works best imo.
*warning tho, theories decks are flat as fuck but decent kicks..
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I'd pair Thunder forged with any deck with steep kicks to lower the pop. Ventures used to be my go to but the forged baseplate extends too far out.

Lower the pop!? You have not seen me struggle, ha. Ive been trying to lower trucks, again, because it hurts less to pop. Pain or no, Im  barely getting off the ground.

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« Reply #9738 on: January 17, 2021, 10:06:28 AM »
Would one really notice much going from 149 to 144 on an 8.25?

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« Reply #9739 on: January 17, 2021, 10:11:48 AM »
Would one really notice much going from 149 to 144 on an 8.25?

In my experience, the 144's are a little squirrel-y compared to 149's on an 8.25.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #9740 on: January 17, 2021, 02:05:23 PM »
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Would one really notice much going from 149 to 144 on an 8.25?
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In my experience, the 144's are a little squirrel-y compared to 149's on an 8.25.

I second this. Ive skated both, but an 8.5 axle truck on an 8.25 deck is nice. Increases stability and easier to lock on grinds, and no noticeable detriment on flip tricks.

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« Reply #9741 on: January 17, 2021, 02:57:40 PM »
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Would one really notice much going from 149 to 144 on an 8.25?
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In my experience, the 144's are a little squirrel-y compared to 149's on an 8.25.
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I second this. Ive skated both, but an 8.5 axle truck on an 8.25 deck is nice. Increases stability and easier to lock on grinds, and no noticeable detriment on flip tricks.


I disagree. As far as truck to deck sizing, +/- .25. So in this case, Id run 144s on 8-8.5 decks. Trucks wider than the deck is better for some folks for ledges and lip tricks, and possibly for bombing hills. Trucks narrower better for flipping, quicker turning, less wheelbite.
Its all personal preference, so when I say I disagree, I should be saying this is what works better for me 

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« Reply #9742 on: January 17, 2021, 04:21:54 PM »
I have these 149 from when I was on 8.38/8.5. They've got life left, got a fairly new set of 139 as well, however, I don't see myself going above 8.25. Wasn't sure how much I'd notice 139 vs 144 or 144 vs 149 to warrant coping some.

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« Reply #9743 on: January 17, 2021, 05:23:59 PM »
I have these 149 from when I was on 8.38/8.5. They've got life left, got a fairly new set of 139 as well, however, I don't see myself going above 8.25. Wasn't sure how much I'd notice 139 vs 144 or 144 vs 149 to warrant coping some.

Put the 149s on with NO washers on the inside (two on the outside) more so just to feel where the wheels sit, because that is almost the same as with two washers on the inside of 144s.

In the same way, put three washers on the inside of the 139s and compare where your wheels sit in relation to the 149s with no washers.  On my setups, they are almost the same.

As much as the truck axle ends sit at 8.5 on 149s, usually unless you have three washers on the inside and or fat wide wheels, your truck and wheel setup is never going to be that wide, which is why people had successfully run 149s on 8.25s for a long time before 144s came in.

* Sometimes trucks will not fit three washers, but if you don't run spacers in your wheels, they fit with room to spare on most wheels I have done this with.
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« Reply #9744 on: January 18, 2021, 08:34:56 AM »
Had a decent session on 147 hollows. Anyone have a deck pairing they like?

I had a Business & Company 8" (14" wb) that I used those trucks with (before heading back to my 7.75 + Indy combo). It was a pretty awesome setup, but I just felt too weird making such a change from 7.75/ Indys so... I didn't "allow" myself to fully enjoy it. BUT it was a nice setup, quick pop and quick flip.

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« Reply #9745 on: January 18, 2021, 08:45:22 AM »
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I had a Business & Company 8" (14" wb) that I used those trucks with (before heading back to my 7.75 + Indy combo). It was a pretty awesome setup, but I just felt too weird making such a change from 7.75/ Indys so... I didn't "allow" myself to fully enjoy it. BUT it was a nice setup, quick pop and quick flip.

14 wb the key, same with 8. I want a Gino deck, for obvious reasons, but B&C or one of those Gangemi decks would be more interesting.
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« Reply #9746 on: January 18, 2021, 08:54:20 AM »
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Had a decent session on 147 hollows. Anyone have a deck pairing they like?
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I had a Business & Company 8" (14" wb) that I used those trucks with (before heading back to my 7.75 + Indy combo). It was a pretty awesome setup, but I just felt too weird making such a change from 7.75/ Indys so... I didn't "allow" myself to fully enjoy it. BUT it was a nice setup, quick pop and quick flip.
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14 wb the key, same with 8. I want a Gino deck, for obvious reasons, but B&C or one of those Gangemi decks would be more interesting.
Thanks for the rec

I was going to say the Gino 8.18", but I used Venture Low 5.25s with it (this is 3 years ago) not Thunders. BUT in saying that... that was also a good setup

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« Reply #9747 on: January 18, 2021, 09:03:25 AM »
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Had a decent session on 147 hollows. Anyone have a deck pairing they like?
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I had a Business & Company 8" (14" wb) that I used those trucks with (before heading back to my 7.75 + Indy combo). It was a pretty awesome setup, but I just felt too weird making such a change from 7.75/ Indys so... I didn't "allow" myself to fully enjoy it. BUT it was a nice setup, quick pop and quick flip.
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14 wb the key, same with 8. I want a Gino deck, for obvious reasons, but B&C or one of those Gangemi decks would be more interesting.
Thanks for the rec
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I was going to say the Gino 8.18", but I used Venture Low 5.25s with it (this is 3 years ago) not Thunders. BUT in saying that... that was also a good setup

That was the plan, 8.18 with 5.2 los.
Alternatively I could just skate more often, and forget about acquiring gear that will change results, negligibly at best

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« Reply #9748 on: January 18, 2021, 09:46:29 AM »
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Had a decent session on 147 hollows. Anyone have a deck pairing they like?
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I had a Business & Company 8" (14" wb) that I used those trucks with (before heading back to my 7.75 + Indy combo). It was a pretty awesome setup, but I just felt too weird making such a change from 7.75/ Indys so... I didn't "allow" myself to fully enjoy it. BUT it was a nice setup, quick pop and quick flip.
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14 wb the key, same with 8. I want a Gino deck, for obvious reasons, but B&C or one of those Gangemi decks would be more interesting.
Thanks for the rec
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I was going to say the Gino 8.18", but I used Venture Low 5.25s with it (this is 3 years ago) not Thunders. BUT in saying that... that was also a good setup
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That was the plan, 8.18 with 5.2 los.
Alternatively I could just skate more often, and forget about acquiring gear that will change results, negligibly at best

I'm in the same boat really. I'm currently trying to dodge the yearn to Ventures (yet again) but really, I haven't got to skate in 3 weeks so I have too much time on my hands

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« Reply #9749 on: January 18, 2021, 06:50:28 PM »
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Had a decent session on 147 hollows. Anyone have a deck pairing they like?
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I had a Business & Company 8" (14" wb) that I used those trucks with (before heading back to my 7.75 + Indy combo). It was a pretty awesome setup, but I just felt too weird making such a change from 7.75/ Indys so... I didn't "allow" myself to fully enjoy it. BUT it was a nice setup, quick pop and quick flip.
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14 wb the key, same with 8. I want a Gino deck, for obvious reasons, but B&C or one of those Gangemi decks would be more interesting.
Thanks for the rec
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I was going to say the Gino 8.18", but I used Venture Low 5.25s with it (this is 3 years ago) not Thunders. BUT in saying that... that was also a good setup
[close]

That was the plan, 8.18 with 5.2 los.
Alternatively I could just skate more often, and forget about acquiring gear that will change results, negligibly at best
[close]

I'm in the same boat really. I'm currently trying to dodge the yearn to Ventures (yet again) but really, I haven't got to skate in 3 weeks so I have too much time on my hands

I've swapped between Thunder and Venture, really love Venture but I keep going back to Thunder. Venture wins on pinch but Thunders are much more versatile with more deck dims.

Does anyone have a review of Venture Titaniums?
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