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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #11520 on: July 27, 2022, 07:46:42 PM »
Anyone have some tips for somewhat replicating that Ace turn on Indy trucks?

Since Ace are standard shape barrel shaped bushings with 91a on top and 86a on bottom...

I'm thinking about putting a stock Indy bushing on top, Indy Standard Soft bushing on the bottom (90a/88a). Or a Bones Medium on top (91a/88a).

I'm not sure which one would have a better chance at nailing it. Anyone else do any experiments like this?

I run bottom barrel 90a and top 92a bushings on my Indys and it works for me. Turns and carves easily while still being stable. I did this because at the time before I made this decision, my Indys were too unstable with 90a but wasn't turning good with 92a. Combining both gave me the best of both worlds without being extremely different from stock Indy. If you have a bigger durometer difference (such as top 92a and bottom 88a) you'll for sure get a feeling similar to Aces.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #11521 on: July 27, 2022, 07:59:11 PM »
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I recently switched back to Thunders as well and concur- I skate the most consistently on them and really prefer the turn. The grind doesn't feel insanely different on the things I skate, but the Indy grind is the best on chunky stuff.
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what thunders would yall recommend? Is it same as ventures where the cast base plate is more sought after?

For example on tactics, I see the "Lights", "Hollow Lights", and "Hollow Lights II".

What is the go to for thunders?? And maybe a bushing recommendation. I always prefer hard bushings and I rock them decently loose. Makes the feel, pinch, and carve super solid for me.

On my current ventures I have the stock bottom bushing with a hard top bushing and its amazing.
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I personally like the cast baseplates, right now I'm on 149 Teams (standards) but Team Hollows would be good for me too. I ride them pretty loose with stock bushings, 54mm OG Classics and the wheelbite is pretty manageable, but I probably wouldn't get anyting bigger than 54 without risers (and if I ever tried forged plates then I'd probably step down to 52-53mm)

Depending on the deck size, standard is great for smaller deck sizes, I'd only start considering lights / hollow lights on 8.5 decks. The Standard is very lightweight and reducing the weight on a smaller board leads to a dinky feeling setup.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #11522 on: July 27, 2022, 08:10:58 PM »
Indy 149 hollows, Indy orange 90a aftermarket conical bushings. No top washer, Yes bottom washer. I usually go with the bones medium hardcore bushings but went with the indy aftermarkets and theyre actually really nice. Rebound well and broke in right away.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #11523 on: July 27, 2022, 08:25:38 PM »
Anyone have some tips for somewhat replicating that Ace turn on Indy trucks?

Since Ace are standard shape barrel shaped bushings with 91a on top and 86a on bottom...

I'm thinking about putting a stock Indy bushing on top, Indy Standard Soft bushing on the bottom (90a/88a). Or a Bones Medium on top (91a/88a).

I'm not sure which one would have a better chance at nailing it. Anyone else do any experiments like this?

Just trim down the Ace bushings or get Supercush 88 for the bottom and an Indy blue or black for the top. The Indy Soft red bushings suck and are harder than the blues.

Also, the stock orange feel identical to me compared to the aftermarket blues. The aftermarket orange are softer than stock. I put my board upside down with a 65lb weight on it so it wouldn't move then placed a 55lb weight on top of a wheel and measured the distance from deck several times, leveling out the truck each time. The Indy stock and blue were within a mm or 2 at same kingpin tightness, aftermarket orange was definitely 5mm more deflection.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #11524 on: July 27, 2022, 11:09:46 PM »
if i didnt ride ventures id definitely be on thunder
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #11525 on: July 27, 2022, 11:15:44 PM »
Anyone have some tips for somewhat replicating that Ace turn on Indy trucks?

Since Ace are standard shape barrel shaped bushings with 91a on top and 86a on bottom...

I'm thinking about putting a stock Indy bushing on top, Indy Standard Soft bushing on the bottom (90a/88a). Or a Bones Medium on top (91a/88a).

I'm not sure which one would have a better chance at nailing it. Anyone else do any experiments like this?

I have Ace low bushings in my Indy’s and it’s pretty close. If you can’t find the lows, you can shave down the standard Ace bushings 
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #11526 on: July 27, 2022, 11:35:42 PM »
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Anyone have some tips for somewhat replicating that Ace turn on Indy trucks?

Since Ace are standard shape barrel shaped bushings with 91a on top and 86a on bottom...

I'm thinking about putting a stock Indy bushing on top, Indy Standard Soft bushing on the bottom (90a/88a). Or a Bones Medium on top (91a/88a).

I'm not sure which one would have a better chance at nailing it. Anyone else do any experiments like this?
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I have Ace low bushings in my Indy’s and it’s pretty close. If you can’t find the lows, you can shave down the standard Ace bushings

Oh wow, you're saying these work fine for Indy?

https://shop.acetrucks.com/products/ace-low-standard-bushings

Any "compatibility" issues?
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #11527 on: July 28, 2022, 09:08:54 AM »
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Anyone have some tips for somewhat replicating that Ace turn on Indy trucks?

Since Ace are standard shape barrel shaped bushings with 91a on top and 86a on bottom...

I'm thinking about putting a stock Indy bushing on top, Indy Standard Soft bushing on the bottom (90a/88a). Or a Bones Medium on top (91a/88a).

I'm not sure which one would have a better chance at nailing it. Anyone else do any experiments like this?
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I have Ace low bushings in my Indy’s and it’s pretty close. If you can’t find the lows, you can shave down the standard Ace bushings
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Oh wow, you're saying these work fine for Indy?

https://shop.acetrucks.com/products/ace-low-standard-bushings

Any "compatibility" issues?

I’ve been running them for 8 months with no issues. They’re barely shorter than stock Indy bushings. Standard Ace bushings are pretty tall

Indy - bottom 13mm, top 10.5mm
Ace low - bottom 12mm, top 10mm
Ace standard - bottom 14mm, top 12mm

It still won’t feel exactly like Aces due to the geometry, but it’s the closest you can get with Indy’s.  I went a little crazy trying a bunch of different bushings when I switched back to Indy
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #11528 on: July 28, 2022, 11:09:15 AM »
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Anyone have some tips for somewhat replicating that Ace turn on Indy trucks?

Since Ace are standard shape barrel shaped bushings with 91a on top and 86a on bottom...

I'm thinking about putting a stock Indy bushing on top, Indy Standard Soft bushing on the bottom (90a/88a). Or a Bones Medium on top (91a/88a).

I'm not sure which one would have a better chance at nailing it. Anyone else do any experiments like this?
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I have Ace low bushings in my Indy’s and it’s pretty close. If you can’t find the lows, you can shave down the standard Ace bushings
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Oh wow, you're saying these work fine for Indy?

https://shop.acetrucks.com/products/ace-low-standard-bushings

Any "compatibility" issues?
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I’ve been running them for 8 months with no issues. They’re barely shorter than stock Indy bushings. Standard Ace bushings are pretty tall

Indy - bottom 13mm, top 10.5mm
Ace low - bottom 12mm, top 10mm
Ace standard - bottom 14mm, top 12mm

It still won’t feel exactly like Aces due to the geometry, but it’s the closest you can get with Indy’s.  I went a little crazy trying a bunch of different bushings when I switched back to Indy

Awesome. Thanks a ton. Grabbed some.

And thanks for the dimensions. Great info to know!
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #11529 on: July 28, 2022, 11:26:36 AM »
Man weird user name- I skated FGO from like 1998-2002 and most of my friends did before and after.

I honestly ride the Teams or Standards. They're already pretty light compared to a Venture and have the taller cast plate.

As for bushings I never swap mine so I can't help there. Maybe try either Bones or Thunder Hards and shave down the top slightly? I think the Indy conical bushings fit too.


Good shit, its such a terrible park but I love that place. I wonder if I would know any of them, grew up skating fgo since I was a kid with all the homies there, but I started hanging there around 2007 ish - you'd probably know the homie Dustin haha.

And thanks everyone for the advice. I usually have a 8.5 and 8.25 in the quiver. The 8.25 is what Im looking to switch out my old busted ventures for the thunders (149).

So the team truck has a slightly taller ride I'm seeing, but id be riding 53's/54 max. Might just shoot for the hollow's? fuck idk. Either way Ill go to the local shop and see what they have in stock. Just hard to make a decision with all the trade-off's. Got the ol' gear madness real bad rn


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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #11530 on: July 28, 2022, 11:33:53 AM »
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Man weird user name- I skated FGO from like 1998-2002 and most of my friends did before and after.

I honestly ride the Teams or Standards. They're already pretty light compared to a Venture and have the taller cast plate.

As for bushings I never swap mine so I can't help there. Maybe try either Bones or Thunder Hards and shave down the top slightly? I think the Indy conical bushings fit too.
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Good shit, its such a terrible park but I love that place. I wonder if I would know any of them, grew up skating fgo since I was a kid with all the homies there, but I started hanging there around 2007 ish - you'd probably know the homie Dustin haha.

And thanks everyone for the advice. I usually have a 8.5 and 8.25 in the quiver. The 8.25 is what Im looking to switch out my old busted ventures for the thunders (149).

So the team truck has a slightly taller ride I'm seeing, but id be riding 53's/54 max. Might just shoot for the hollow's? fuck idk. Either way Ill go to the local shop and see what they have in stock. Just hard to make a decision with all the trade-off's. Got the ol' gear madness real bad rn

Team Hollows have the cast baseplate with hollow axle and kingpin if you're looking for the taller ride but lighter weight.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #11531 on: July 28, 2022, 02:35:22 PM »
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Man weird user name- I skated FGO from like 1998-2002 and most of my friends did before and after.

I honestly ride the Teams or Standards. They're already pretty light compared to a Venture and have the taller cast plate.

As for bushings I never swap mine so I can't help there. Maybe try either Bones or Thunder Hards and shave down the top slightly? I think the Indy conical bushings fit too.
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Good shit, its such a terrible park but I love that place. I wonder if I would know any of them, grew up skating fgo since I was a kid with all the homies there, but I started hanging there around 2007 ish - you'd probably know the homie Dustin haha.

And thanks everyone for the advice. I usually have a 8.5 and 8.25 in the quiver. The 8.25 is what Im looking to switch out my old busted ventures for the thunders (149).

So the team truck has a slightly taller ride I'm seeing, but id be riding 53's/54 max. Might just shoot for the hollow's? fuck idk. Either way Ill go to the local shop and see what they have in stock. Just hard to make a decision with all the trade-off's. Got the ol' gear madness real bad rn
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Team Hollows have the cast baseplate with hollow axle and kingpin if you're looking for the taller ride but lighter weight.



Nice ok maybe thats the move then. Ill go see whats up with the local shop at the end of today.

I wonder what most of the thunder team themselves ride. Its always funny to me when I think of all this gear madness, and I'd bet most of the team riders for any truck company never bother to delve into the nitty gritty or any of the madness we often do.

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« Reply #11532 on: July 28, 2022, 02:46:09 PM »
Anyone have some tips for somewhat replicating that Ace turn on Indy trucks?

Since Ace are standard shape barrel shaped bushings with 91a on top and 86a on bottom...

I'm thinking about putting a stock Indy bushing on top, Indy Standard Soft bushing on the bottom (90a/88a). Or a Bones Medium on top (91a/88a).

I'm not sure which one would have a better chance at nailing it. Anyone else do any experiments like this?

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #11533 on: July 28, 2022, 03:57:38 PM »
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Anyone have some tips for somewhat replicating that Ace turn on Indy trucks?

Since Ace are standard shape barrel shaped bushings with 91a on top and 86a on bottom...

I'm thinking about putting a stock Indy bushing on top, Indy Standard Soft bushing on the bottom (90a/88a). Or a Bones Medium on top (91a/88a).

I'm not sure which one would have a better chance at nailing it. Anyone else do any experiments like this?
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« Reply #11534 on: July 28, 2022, 04:04:51 PM »
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Man weird user name- I skated FGO from like 1998-2002 and most of my friends did before and after.

I honestly ride the Teams or Standards. They're already pretty light compared to a Venture and have the taller cast plate.

As for bushings I never swap mine so I can't help there. Maybe try either Bones or Thunder Hards and shave down the top slightly? I think the Indy conical bushings fit too.
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Good shit, its such a terrible park but I love that place. I wonder if I would know any of them, grew up skating fgo since I was a kid with all the homies there, but I started hanging there around 2007 ish - you'd probably know the homie Dustin haha.

And thanks everyone for the advice. I usually have a 8.5 and 8.25 in the quiver. The 8.25 is what Im looking to switch out my old busted ventures for the thunders (149).

So the team truck has a slightly taller ride I'm seeing, but id be riding 53's/54 max. Might just shoot for the hollow's? fuck idk. Either way Ill go to the local shop and see what they have in stock. Just hard to make a decision with all the trade-off's. Got the ol' gear madness real bad rn
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Team Hollows have the cast baseplate with hollow axle and kingpin if you're looking for the taller ride but lighter weight.
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Nice ok maybe thats the move then. Ill go see whats up with the local shop at the end of today.

I wonder what most of the thunder team themselves ride. Its always funny to me when I think of all this gear madness, and I'd bet most of the team riders for any truck company never bother to delve into the nitty gritty or any of the madness we often do.

Their IG page features riders and their trucks. Most ride just the standard teams some ride the lights.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #11535 on: July 28, 2022, 07:48:31 PM »
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Man weird user name- I skated FGO from like 1998-2002 and most of my friends did before and after.

I honestly ride the Teams or Standards. They're already pretty light compared to a Venture and have the taller cast plate.

As for bushings I never swap mine so I can't help there. Maybe try either Bones or Thunder Hards and shave down the top slightly? I think the Indy conical bushings fit too.
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Good shit, its such a terrible park but I love that place. I wonder if I would know any of them, grew up skating fgo since I was a kid with all the homies there, but I started hanging there around 2007 ish - you'd probably know the homie Dustin haha.

And thanks everyone for the advice. I usually have a 8.5 and 8.25 in the quiver. The 8.25 is what Im looking to switch out my old busted ventures for the thunders (149).

So the team truck has a slightly taller ride I'm seeing, but id be riding 53's/54 max. Might just shoot for the hollow's? fuck idk. Either way Ill go to the local shop and see what they have in stock. Just hard to make a decision with all the trade-off's. Got the ol' gear madness real bad rn
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Team Hollows have the cast baseplate with hollow axle and kingpin if you're looking for the taller ride but lighter weight.
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Nice ok maybe thats the move then. Ill go see whats up with the local shop at the end of today.

I wonder what most of the thunder team themselves ride. Its always funny to me when I think of all this gear madness, and I'd bet most of the team riders for any truck company never bother to delve into the nitty gritty or any of the madness we often do.
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Their IG page features riders and their trucks. Most ride just the standard teams some ride the lights.

Feels like a lot of pros, across the different brands, ride the cast versions of the trucks.

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« Reply #11536 on: July 28, 2022, 11:04:06 PM »
Pros ride what’s free in their box…sure some get to request ti, hollows, etc., but most ride cast/standards  because they’re free and that’s what they’re used too.

You know how expensive it would be to send ti or forged hollows to everyone?

Sell them off, buy hollows or ti…they don’t have madness they skate them to the ground…

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« Reply #11537 on: July 29, 2022, 06:23:22 AM »
I asked a pro why they switched from Indy to Thunder and they said that they were getting Spitfires and all of a sudden Thunders just showed up in the same box so they figured they'd just ride em.

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« Reply #11538 on: July 29, 2022, 06:28:09 AM »
I asked a pro why they switched from Indy to Thunder and they said that they were getting Spitfires and all of a sudden Thunders just showed up in the same box so they figured they'd just ride em.

That's hilarious and completely believable.

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« Reply #11540 on: July 29, 2022, 08:34:39 AM »
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I asked a pro why they switched from Indy to Thunder and they said that they were getting Spitfires and all of a sudden Thunders just showed up in the same box so they figured they'd just ride em.
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That's hilarious and completely believable.

I think most skaters don't have that brand/product loyalty, or gear madness. They just ride whatever

also, I like that DLX just threw a set of trucks in the box to see what would happen

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« Reply #11541 on: July 29, 2022, 11:14:36 AM »
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I asked a pro why they switched from Indy to Thunder and they said that they were getting Spitfires and all of a sudden Thunders just showed up in the same box so they figured they'd just ride em.
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That's hilarious and completely believable.
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I think most skaters don't have that brand/product loyalty, or gear madness. They just ride whatever

also, I like that DLX just threw a set of trucks in the box to see what would happen

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« Reply #11542 on: July 29, 2022, 02:44:35 PM »
Most truck companies don’t pay, or don’t pay much so I can see why a pro may skate thunders because spitfire is already hooking them up, or Indy because they just like them….there’s always that exception like Zared skating for Tensor but guys usually don’t skate trucks for the money….

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« Reply #11543 on: July 30, 2022, 08:38:47 AM »
Most truck companies don’t pay, or don’t pay much so I can see why a pro may skate thunders because spitfire is already hooking them up, or Indy because they just like them….there’s always that exception like Zared skating for Tensor but guys usually don’t skate trucks for the money….

A lot of people would probably skate Thunders just because they came they showed up at the door and didn’t have to call over to NHS and request anything.

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« Reply #11544 on: July 30, 2022, 10:56:15 AM »
Ace Pelka mentions new Indys and shows them on his setup 30 seconds into this vid. They look like 215s but possibly narrower?



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« Reply #11545 on: July 30, 2022, 10:59:02 AM »
That's a 10" board so they might just be 215s, and Ace might not have known that the hanger has been different forever.

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« Reply #11546 on: July 30, 2022, 11:52:43 AM »
Ace Pelka mentions new Indys and shows them on his setup 30 seconds into this vid. They look like 215s but possibly narrower?




Maybe this is what you’re referencing, but Indy is going to release a reproduction of their Stage IV truck soon, which is from my understanding what the 215 already is. That’s probably what he’s referencing.


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« Reply #11547 on: July 30, 2022, 04:17:53 PM »
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Ace Pelka mentions new Indys and shows them on his setup 30 seconds into this vid. They look like 215s but possibly narrower?



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Maybe this is what you’re referencing, but Indy is going to release a reproduction of their Stage IV truck soon, which is from my understanding what the 215 already is. That’s probably what he’s referencing.



I be was just thinking about this.

This definitely would get me riding some new Indy’s.

I can’t believe this.

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« Reply #11548 on: July 30, 2022, 05:11:51 PM »
Anyone know what height stage iv’s are? Same as current Indy? Or shorter

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« Reply #11549 on: July 30, 2022, 06:27:53 PM »
Looks like if I ordered a Thunder off AliExpress.