Independent trucks and racist ideology

[SatanicPanic]

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Companies coming out of 70s California were not surprisingly big on Nazi imagery- 70s and 80s CA was nazi land. Vans manages to not put nazi logos on everything (yes I know about the TNT shoes with Indy logos on them) while still maintaining some history so it can be done. Anyway Indy should move on. Replace their logo with a screaming foot or something

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Couldn't have said it better myself. I feel like the association to JJ alone makes the logo appear to be in poor taste. Doesn't really seem worth it keeping an outdated symbol.

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Thanks and for the record I’m not say no one ride Indys- I... ride Indys. Just think it’s time to move on to another logo.

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I've been riding indy since my start as well. I truly just dont get whats so controversial for these old heads to move on from that logo though? I remember looking at their comments a few days ago and any discussion about the logo was met with a bunch of dorks saying "STOP BEING SENSITIVE"

u know shits wack as fuck when the main people arguing with you are 40 year old men who wear cargo shorts lol

Right? Who gets all attached to something like a logo? I just want durable trucks that turn well. Replace it with a pink bunny for all I care I’ll still ride them.

[Tracerstracer]

micropeepee and his kek. my proud man dick makes babies. your micro keks makes you crybabies

[Allen.]

spit on them a hundred times

The mental image of this is hilarious to me

[Spacetravelisboring]

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Companies coming out of 70s California were not surprisingly big on Nazi imagery- 70s and 80s CA was nazi land. Vans manages to not put nazi logos on everything (yes I know about the TNT shoes with Indy logos on them) while still maintaining some history so it can be done. Anyway Indy should move on. Replace their logo with a screaming foot or something

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Couldn't have said it better myself. I feel like the association to JJ alone makes the logo appear to be in poor taste. Doesn't really seem worth it keeping an outdated symbol.

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Thanks and for the record I’m not say no one ride Indys- I... ride Indys. Just think it’s time to move on to another logo.

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I've been riding indy since my start as well. I truly just dont get whats so controversial for these old heads to move on from that logo though? I remember looking at their comments a few days ago and any discussion about the logo was met with a bunch of dorks saying "STOP BEING SENSITIVE"

u know shits wack as fuck when the main people arguing with you are 40 year old men who wear cargo shorts lol

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Right? Who gets all attached to something like a logo? I just want durable trucks that turn well. Replace it with a pink bunny for all I care I’ll still ride them.

If it doesn't matter then why change it? It's not racist.

[SatanicPanic]

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Companies coming out of 70s California were not surprisingly big on Nazi imagery- 70s and 80s CA was nazi land. Vans manages to not put nazi logos on everything (yes I know about the TNT shoes with Indy logos on them) while still maintaining some history so it can be done. Anyway Indy should move on. Replace their logo with a screaming foot or something

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Couldn't have said it better myself. I feel like the association to JJ alone makes the logo appear to be in poor taste. Doesn't really seem worth it keeping an outdated symbol.

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Thanks and for the record I’m not say no one ride Indys- I... ride Indys. Just think it’s time to move on to another logo.

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I've been riding indy since my start as well. I truly just dont get whats so controversial for these old heads to move on from that logo though? I remember looking at their comments a few days ago and any discussion about the logo was met with a bunch of dorks saying "STOP BEING SENSITIVE"

u know shits wack as fuck when the main people arguing with you are 40 year old men who wear cargo shorts lol

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Right? Who gets all attached to something like a logo? I just want durable trucks that turn well. Replace it with a pink bunny for all I care I’ll still ride them.

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If it doesn't matter then why change it? It's not racist.

Because I don’t give a shit if it’s a logo I think is silly but I do give a shit about looking like a Nazi. I never said it’s racist (it came out of a time of rampant racism and it reminds me of that era) nor did I say I’d boycott, I just said I’d prefer if they change it.

[givecigstosurfgroms]

Fuck id buy Peanut Brown Indys.  Hes still blasting airs and shit.

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Fuck id buy Peanut Brown Indys.  Hes still blasting airs and shit.

Got a link to any footage? Had his airbourne deck. I must have been about 10. Fuck I went back and forth over so many different boards. Couldn’t decide. Still remember some of the other boards I was looking at, which is fucked because I cannot remember all that much. Ironically, I guess, one of the boards was a Jason Jesse sun god, the tail shape seemed sick, modern, not as whale/fish shaped. I’m really not sure why I chose the Peanut board, wasn’t like I was being influenced by footage, mags, didn’t really have a skate squad.
Zorlac and Airbourne had some fucking cool shit.

[givecigstosurfgroms]

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Fuck id buy Peanut Brown Indys.  Hes still blasting airs and shit.

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Got a link to any footage? Had his airbourne deck. I must have been about 10. Fuck I went back and forth over so many different boards. Couldn’t decide. Still remember some of the other boards I was looking at, which is fucked because I cannot remember all that much. Ironically, I guess, one of the boards was a Jason Jesse sun god, the tail shape seemed sick, modern, not as whale/fish shaped. I’m really not sure why I chose the Peanut board, wasn’t like I was being influenced by footage, mags, didn’t really have a skate squad.
Zorlac and Airbourne had some fucking cool shit.

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  Sadly no but i heard thru the grapevine he was still doin it.

[Spacetravelisboring]

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Companies coming out of 70s California were not surprisingly big on Nazi imagery- 70s and 80s CA was nazi land. Vans manages to not put nazi logos on everything (yes I know about the TNT shoes with Indy logos on them) while still maintaining some history so it can be done. Anyway Indy should move on. Replace their logo with a screaming foot or something

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Couldn't have said it better myself. I feel like the association to JJ alone makes the logo appear to be in poor taste. Doesn't really seem worth it keeping an outdated symbol.

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Thanks and for the record I’m not say no one ride Indys- I... ride Indys. Just think it’s time to move on to another logo.

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I've been riding indy since my start as well. I truly just dont get whats so controversial for these old heads to move on from that logo though? I remember looking at their comments a few days ago and any discussion about the logo was met with a bunch of dorks saying "STOP BEING SENSITIVE"

u know shits wack as fuck when the main people arguing with you are 40 year old men who wear cargo shorts lol

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Right? Who gets all attached to something like a logo? I just want durable trucks that turn well. Replace it with a pink bunny for all I care I’ll still ride them.

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If it doesn't matter then why change it? It's not racist.

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Because I don’t give a shit if it’s a logo I think is silly but I do give a shit about looking like a Nazi. I never said it’s racist (it came out of a time of rampant racism and it reminds me of that era) nor did I say I’d boycott, I just said I’d prefer if they change it.

Fair enough. People can just switch to ace too. Great trucks and they deserve our business.

[el chino]

how about no new accounts allowed for about a year

[Christmas Complete]

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how about no new accounts allowed for about a year

Seconded

[RichardBarkley]

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mannn yes I do really I should've read the username before I responded. ignore on.

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  So ur just a mean cunt basically, great.

Lol

[Roast beef]

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mannn yes I do really I should've read the username before I responded. ignore on.

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  So ur just a mean cunt basically, great.

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Lol

Mega lol

[Tear Up a Trick]

Independent Trucks newest video is called "Savoring the Struggle."  Adolf Hitler's book was called "My Struggle" (Mein Kamph).

[cherry]

Got a indy shirt in like 8th and was embarrassed to wear it because that logo looks like some west coast chopper shit.

Also all the older redneck kids who never skated wore indy stuff they bought at pac sun

Idk if it’s based of Nazi ideology but either way that logo is trash

[ndsr]

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Fuck id buy Peanut Brown Indys.  Hes still blasting airs and shit.

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Got a link to any footage? Had his airbourne deck. I must have been about 10. Fuck I went back and forth over so many different boards. Couldn’t decide. Still remember some of the other boards I was looking at, which is fucked because I cannot remember all that much. Ironically, I guess, one of the boards was a Jason Jesse sun god, the tail shape seemed sick, modern, not as whale/fish shaped. I’m really not sure why I chose the Peanut board, wasn’t like I was being influenced by footage, mags, didn’t really have a skate squad.
Zorlac and Airbourne had some fucking cool shit.

Most of my early purchases were mail order and at the time the companies that had the best ads in the mags were all out of ca.  I remember Santa Cruz, Powell peralta, dogtown and Alva  being the main decks I had my eyes on.

[Youoverthere]

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Fuck id buy Peanut Brown Indys.  Hes still blasting airs and shit.

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Got a link to any footage? Had his airbourne deck. I must have been about 10. Fuck I went back and forth over so many different boards. Couldn’t decide. Still remember some of the other boards I was looking at, which is fucked because I cannot remember all that much. Ironically, I guess, one of the boards was a Jason Jesse sun god, the tail shape seemed sick, modern, not as whale/fish shaped. I’m really not sure why I chose the Peanut board, wasn’t like I was being influenced by footage, mags, didn’t really have a skate squad.
Zorlac and Airbourne had some fucking cool shit.

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  Sadly no but i heard thru the grapevine he was still doin it.

At the 1:00 mark.
And this one too

[Sonny Paluso]

Not to rehash a now moot point, but probably was a good move on Indy's part to move on from the Iron Cross. Whether or not it was originated from the WW2 era Iron Cross, they definitely embraced it on this shirt. From Chicago Blowout 1986.

[GinosGroceries]

Not to rehash a now moot point, but probably was a good move on Indy's part to move on from the Iron Cross. Whether or not it was originated from the WW2 era Iron Cross, they definitely embraced it on this shirt. From Chicago Blowout 1986.

I don’t think I’ve posted in this thread before but I was in the “it’s just a cross” club. The Jolson salute ad was pretty damning tho.

Anyway, can’t defend it anymore after seeing that. Clear as day.

[ndsr]

Not to rehash a now moot point, but probably was a good move on Indy's part to move on from the Iron Cross. Whether or not it was originated from the WW2 era Iron Cross, they definitely embraced it on this shirt. From Chicago Blowout 1986.

All that I can say is FUCK

[Tear Up a Trick]

Not to rehash a now moot point, but probably was a good move on Indy's part to move on from the Iron Cross. Whether or not it was originated from the WW2 era Iron Cross, they definitely embraced it on this shirt. From Chicago Blowout 1986.

Wow, that's about as clear as you could ask for.  Good research. 

And while it's good that they got rid of their old logos, the new logos look lame.

[Pennybabie]

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Not to rehash a now moot point, but probably was a good move on Indy's part to move on from the Iron Cross. Whether or not it was originated from the WW2 era Iron Cross, they definitely embraced it on this shirt. From Chicago Blowout 1986.

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Wow, that's about as clear as you could ask for.  Good research. 

And while it's good that they got rid of their old logos, the new logos look lame.

Jesus wtf independent?

I guess they really were going for the whole tough guy biker with an iron cross on his jacket look... Or were these guys actual nazis at some point?

[manysnakes]

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Not to rehash a now moot point, but probably was a good move on Indy's part to move on from the Iron Cross. Whether or not it was originated from the WW2 era Iron Cross, they definitely embraced it on this shirt. From Chicago Blowout 1986.

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I don’t think I’ve posted in this thread before but I was in the “it’s just a cross” club. The Jolson salute ad was pretty damning tho.

Anyway, can’t defend it anymore after seeing that. Clear as day.

Same thing happened to me in another thread. I was of the “it’s just a stupid, edgy logo” crowd, until someone shared a video about an old 60s California surf and skate Nazi culture, and how their imagery and iconography ended up as an obvious influence for the nascent skate scene, including Indy.

Now it seems as if Indy is completely done with the cross, and every time they post anything without it, a bunch of extremely sensitive dudes complain about it. Apparently every time they fail to see an iron cross, they get angry.

[TwisT]

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Not to rehash a now moot point, but probably was a good move on Indy's part to move on from the Iron Cross. Whether or not it was originated from the WW2 era Iron Cross, they definitely embraced it on this shirt. From Chicago Blowout 1986.

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I don’t think I’ve posted in this thread before but I was in the “it’s just a cross” club. The Jolson salute ad was pretty damning tho.

Anyway, can’t defend it anymore after seeing that. Clear as day.

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Same thing happened to me in another thread. I was of the “it’s just a stupid, edgy logo” crowd, until someone shared a video about an old 60s California surf and skate Nazi culture, and how their imagery and iconography ended up as an obvious influence for the nascent skate scene, including Indy.

Now it seems as if Indy is completely done with the cross, and every time they post anything without it, a bunch of extremely sensitive dudes complain about it. Apparently every time they fail to see an iron cross, they get angry.

I just took a look at the indy insta, and there are a bunch of dudes in their feelings about the cross. It’s funny because irl, it feels like most people, haven’t noticed or don’t care.

[manysnakes]

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Not to rehash a now moot point, but probably was a good move on Indy's part to move on from the Iron Cross. Whether or not it was originated from the WW2 era Iron Cross, they definitely embraced it on this shirt. From Chicago Blowout 1986.

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I don’t think I’ve posted in this thread before but I was in the “it’s just a cross” club. The Jolson salute ad was pretty damning tho.

Anyway, can’t defend it anymore after seeing that. Clear as day.

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Same thing happened to me in another thread. I was of the “it’s just a stupid, edgy logo” crowd, until someone shared a video about an old 60s California surf and skate Nazi culture, and how their imagery and iconography ended up as an obvious influence for the nascent skate scene, including Indy.

Now it seems as if Indy is completely done with the cross, and every time they post anything without it, a bunch of extremely sensitive dudes complain about it. Apparently every time they fail to see an iron cross, they get angry.

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I just took a look at the indy insta, and there are a bunch of dudes in their feelings about the cross. It’s funny because irl, it feels like most people, haven’t noticed or don’t care.

They dropped a bunch of merch designed by Sebo Walker and the comments about the lack of an iron cross were insane. Like did you expect the Portland-based pro skater turned novelist to draw a bunch of that shit?

[Christmas Complete]

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Wow, that's about as clear as you could ask for.  Good research. 

Cab is a Nazi and Max Schaff hates him?

[Mesteezo]

[stringsnthings]

its 2021 and 20 pages in people are still tripping over a fucking shape good times.

[Gray Imp Sausage Metal]

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Wow, that's about as clear as you could ask for.  Good research. 

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Cab is a Nazi and Max Schaff hates him?

hahaha
this is quite funny. actually cab posted an indy cross a while back and some people in the comments were like, "um, you do realize they don't use that anymore right?" and he was like, "I'm zany like that" or something similar... seems like a weird thing to do, then again Cab probably shouldn't be allowed on insta without a personal advisor

[skatred]

seems like a weird thing to do, then again Cab probably shouldn't be allowed on insta without a personal advisor

Cab has Jesus as an advisor