Independent trucks and racist ideology

[manysnakes]

If youve ever paid for truck merch I worry for you

I bought one of those little Ace truck lapel pins in order to make free shipping once. It was $5 for shipping or $6 for a cute pin.

[indysk8r]

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I think you're mildly regular.

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Thanks for contributing to the conversation... RTBFTR though, right bro?

i think ur worried about shit that doesnt matter, just be nice to people, wear the clothes you like.

[Heywood Jeblowme]

Have a purple Indy cross tattoo to make fun of the skate jocks that rep Indy like a sports team. Upset about it because Indy is now a Chinese shit product.

What’s my best option when these break for pools, curbs, hillbombs?

I haven’t skated anything other than Indy’s since 2005.

[DaleSr]

Have a purple Indy cross tattoo to make fun of the skate jocks that rep Indy like a sports team. Upset about it because Indy is now a Chinese shit product.

What’s my best option when these break for pools, curbs, hillbombs?

I haven’t skated anything other than Indy’s since 2005.

You could always pay a premium for old trucks on ebay or just constantly check offer up

[versacekid420]

Have a purple Indy cross tattoo to make fun of the skate jocks that rep Indy like a sports team. Upset about it because Indy is now a Chinese shit product.

What’s my best option when these break for pools, curbs, hillbombs?

I haven’t skated anything other than Indy’s since 2005.

sure that’s why you got it but aces

[Heywood Jeblowme]

Yeah sure stoner 19 year olds aren’t stupid cunts who think a purple Indy tat is edgy in ‘08.

Ace looks the best for slapping and smacking.

[Brguy]

The new logo sucks because it still has the same shape as the old one, only without a cross, who the hell even makes this stuff? Lazy bums.

[billy_pilgrimspecker]

Chinese Indys with Riptide pivot cups are the best thing I've skated. I think quality control stayed consistent with everything but the pivot cups, which are better now apparently. Riptide is made in the USA, and after I bought one set ($18) for my main setup I immediately got more for my cruiser, my rough pavement setup, and a backup pair. That being said, Riptide could make them in China for cheaper with the same quality if they chose to--China makes everything, from the worst to the best, and "made in China" doesn't necessarily mean lower quality (I think that was more true in the past). All that being said, wish the jobs stayed in the USA and I wish workers all over the world got way more of a share of the value they create. Once Chinese working-class parents can afford Christmas completes for their kids, we're going to see some fucking amazing skating coming out of China.

[WadeDes]

Personally I do not have a problem with Indy switching logo's, because of the hype around ACE I finally tried something different for a change and I'm quiet positive about it. Yet I'm baffled by the rhetoric that because the nazi's used a symbol that symbol now became the embodiment of racism. If you willingly refute all empirical examples where the iron crossed has been used before ww2 (crusades for example, which are also ethically questionable), or the fact that the previous covered medal of honor was also used before the nazi regime, to me only shows the limitedness of your knowledge. Symbols an sich do not embody ideology, humanity assigns conceptual ideology to symbols, it's a social construct. In this interpretation one could view skateboarding as a symbol of white western colonialism and capitalism, questioning the morality of skateboarding. Yet we also see al the good skateboarding brings across the globe. I think companies are entitled to change whatever they see fit to change in their own company. However when it comes to morality I do not think we should be the one's to judge what is right or not as our judgement will always be limited by subjective interpretation and/or understanding of the world.
As a wise man once said, Beyond good and evil lays a garden, I'll meet you there.   

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I'm not Christian, i'm not racist, i just like to hang people for no valid reason

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Not sure if you got the allegory, but read the next to last sentence if you took my post literally--I think the sarcasm is too on-the-surface to have to type "/s" like this was Reddit. I got the idea from an old Bill Hicks bit comparing the Christian cross to wearing a gold sniper rifle necklace because you're a fan of John F. Kennedy.

no worries
that was just a pat on the back for the effort, i can't gnar yet

[Anti waxxer]

I always thought the Indy logo was like fireman shit for the longest time growing up cause firemen have a cross thing they rock. I was never like ooh those trucks are racist. I dont really care cause after a few months of skating it comes off the baseplate anyway. Just think everyone is borderline fucking regular for getting upset in either direction about it. If a logo you scratch off makes you upset you got issues and if you are upset that the logo you scratch off isn’t there and you are upset about it you also have issues.

[matty_c]

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I'm not Christian, i'm not racist, i just like to hang people for no valid reason

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Not sure if you got the allegory, but read the next to last sentence if you took my post literally--I think the sarcasm is too on-the-surface to have to type "/s" like this was Reddit. I got the idea from an old Bill Hicks bit comparing the Christian cross to wearing a gold sniper rifle necklace because you're a fan of John F. Kennedy.

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I really don't want anyone to take my post literally so, because there are people in this world who actually are stupid enough to wear crosses because they are pro-execution,  I added "It's like historical and current cultural context doesn't respect my personal reasons for wearing those images and it's not fair" to make it clear (I thought) that I'm making fun of people who act like the general public doesn't see the Indy logo as racist even though that wasn't its creator's intention. I'm making fun of people who argue with closed-circuit-loop logic which ignores all context and outside perspective. I graduated HS in 2003 in rural Kentucky and a lot of us didn't wear the Indy cross back then because racist rednecks all thought it was some KKK shit. Reading this thread, it's pretty obvious that a lot of us have experience with people thinking the Indy cross is a white power symbol. I have the little cross logo sticker on the bottom of my deck because I know that nobody who sees the bottom of my skateboard will think it's a racist symbol, but I've never worn the Indy cross on a shirt because it's been obvious to me since I was a kid that most people (at least where I'm from) see it and think it's a white power symbol. It doesn't matter that they're technically incorrect because they're not familiar with that symbol in any other context (i.e. they have no idea what "skateboard trucks" are), so to wear it where I'm from is to be cool with being associated with the most horrible groups of people in our country. It's just obvious that if you're from the rural south you do not wear the Indy logo unless you don't mind being associated with the KKK, but I understand that it's not that way everywhere. Just please don't think I'm actually out here wearing crosses and nooses supporting the death penalty.

You don’t have to explain shit
That was some funny shit you said before