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Re: is nike cutting skate program soon?
« Reply #60 on: April 27, 2021, 08:14:03 PM »
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Donít know the financials but I have to imagine that they realized cutting a few dudes and not bro flowing half of the east coast will help their bottom line.

Nike is probably tightening up on all their verticals anyways. Their cash cow basketball program likely underperformed due to COVID closing all of the indoor courts. Only black people and New Yorkers like their running shoes over Asics, so that probably didnít make up the difference.
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You obviously know absolutely nothing about running. I despise Nike and their running shoes but it would be a gigantic lie to say that they arenít a top brand. Look at how dominate the Vaporfly next% and dragon fly are.

You have Runnerís sponsored by other companies wearing them in competition. Look no further than Great Britainís marathon trials a month ago where Chris Thompson won wearing the Alphafly but is a pro for OnCloud. Or hell Nico Young wore the dragon fly during a 5000 meter event last weekend and painted the adidas three stripes on them.
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Brooks and ASICS are top two for running IMO.
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On Cloud is huge as well
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as someone who worked in the running/triathlon space for years; nike is absolutely still #1. look at the recent US marathon trials. off the top of my head, 43 of the top 50 dudes were in nikes, including the winner, galen rupp. brooks is big in the 30+ non hyper competitive world. ON cloud is growing, especially with that federer endormsement.

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Is it that time of year again?  Should have known since I saw someone say Nike bought Janoskiís last name from him in a different thread
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Do we know if this has ever been debunked???
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Stefan has denied it in a ton of interviews.
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bruh this is like decade old news. he had a lawyer look into what nike was paying him when the janoski first started going nuts coming out in 30 colors a month. to no ones surprise he was owed millions. allegedly he traded them rights to his name for an undisclosed amount and bought him an apartment on 14th street. most likely part of the contract that he has to deny it.


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This makes absolutely no sense. Why would you trade your name to Nike in perpetuity in order to receive money that a court would justly award you?
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it isn't true. literally over and over and over and over, he's said it isn't true. here's an interview from 6 years ago! http://www.placeskateboarding.de/stefan-janoski-interview/

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I think the rumor is Nike bought my name. But itís just stupid internet shitÖ I donít know where that came from. The rumor is that I sold my name to Nike, but I donít even know how that works really. I think it was the talk-show kid who started thisÖ I donít know why.
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Stefan in interviews:  ďnoooo silly, Nike didnít buy my name!  They simply gave me a lump sum payment in exchange for putting the name Stefan Janoski on the tongues of as many shoes as they want without paying me a proportionate royalty.  They totally didnít buy my name, I donít know where thatís coming from!Ē

They bought his name.

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Re: is nike cutting skate program soon?
« Reply #61 on: April 27, 2021, 08:23:55 PM »
I would like to see Max Palmer of Nike and on Last Resort please.

I agree, but this brings up a real good point. Given the ties a lot of the Polar crew has with Nike, I wouldnít be surprised if Pontus swoops up tons of free agents from this for Last Resort

I for one, think thatíd be sick. Hopefully some of Johnny Wilsonís dudes do too. Nik Stain would look mad sick in a pair of those high top LRís.

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Re: is nike cutting skate program soon?
« Reply #62 on: April 27, 2021, 08:47:00 PM »
Is it that time of year month again?  Should have known since I saw someone say Nike bought Janoskiís last name from him in a different thread
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Re: is nike cutting skate program soon?
« Reply #63 on: April 27, 2021, 08:57:55 PM »
yall got amnesia i swear

every thread about nike is literally the same


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Re: is nike cutting skate program soon?
« Reply #64 on: April 27, 2021, 09:16:56 PM »
@Alan can we start a dedicated ďShroedingerís Nike SBĒ sub-group for whenever someone wants to start this up again or just banish this to the shoes thread

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Re: is nike cutting skate program soon?
« Reply #65 on: April 27, 2021, 09:22:33 PM »
if true wondering if all these dudes will be able to get on anything after nike? i personally wouldn t put a former nike head on a real skateshoe company... but i guess skateboarding is stupid enough to throw some money at them again

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Re: is nike cutting skate program soon?
« Reply #66 on: April 27, 2021, 10:21:20 PM »
I just want to be able to buy a pair of dunks to skate in without spending like $300 on a resale pair. Shit sucks.
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Re: is nike cutting skate program soon?
« Reply #67 on: April 27, 2021, 11:00:57 PM »
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Donít know the financials but I have to imagine that they realized cutting a few dudes and not bro flowing half of the east coast will help their bottom line.

Nike is probably tightening up on all their verticals anyways. Their cash cow basketball program likely underperformed due to COVID closing all of the indoor courts. Only black people and New Yorkers like their running shoes over Asics, so that probably didnít make up the difference.
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You obviously know absolutely nothing about running. I despise Nike and their running shoes but it would be a gigantic lie to say that they arenít a top brand. Look at how dominate the Vaporfly next% and dragon fly are.

You have Runnerís sponsored by other companies wearing them in competition. Look no further than Great Britainís marathon trials a month ago where Chris Thompson won wearing the Alphafly but is a pro for OnCloud. Or hell Nico Young wore the dragon fly during a 5000 meter event last weekend and painted the adidas three stripes on them.
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Brooks and ASICS are top two for running IMO.
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On Cloud is huge as well

The company is called On, CloudTec is just the sole technology that they use

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Re: is nike cutting skate program soon?
« Reply #68 on: April 27, 2021, 11:29:24 PM »
I would like to see Max Palmer of Nike and on Last Resort please.

I would also like that alot
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Re: is nike cutting skate program soon?
« Reply #69 on: April 27, 2021, 11:39:05 PM »
if true wondering if all these dudes will be able to get on anything after nike? i personally wouldn t put a former nike head on a real skateshoe company... but i guess skateboarding is stupid enough to throw some money at them again

Spoken like a true heshlord. Of logic / revenue.

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Re: is nike cutting skate program soon?
« Reply #70 on: April 27, 2021, 11:51:28 PM »
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if true wondering if all these dudes will be able to get on anything after nike? i personally wouldn t put a former nike head on a real skateshoe company... but i guess skateboarding is stupid enough to throw some money at them again
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Spoken like a true heshlord. Of logic / revenue.

The real hesh dudes will be skating barefoot by 2023

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Re: is nike cutting skate program soon?
« Reply #71 on: April 28, 2021, 12:02:51 AM »
A few questions:
- Is Mike Sinclair involved with Nike in any way? I tend to forget?

- Isn't this really strange timing? Nike wants "athletes" and now that skateboarding is going to the olympics and it will get major exposure, they're dropping the skateprogram? Weird.

- Also this statement which has nothing to with skating: The whole sneakerhead thing gets huuuuuuuuugely affected by what Nike sb puts out. Nike Sb dunks ALWAYS sell out immediately and if you look on stock X they'll some models probably will be up there with the most expensive sneakers ever. If Nike Sb gets cancelled it will be a MAJOR shift in the sneakercollecting world. Nike Sb dunks will only get more valuable ...

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Re: is nike cutting skate program soon?
« Reply #72 on: April 28, 2021, 12:04:32 AM »
As long as they don't cut the CONS Skate program I don't care.
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Re: is nike cutting skate program soon?
« Reply #73 on: April 28, 2021, 12:30:52 AM »
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I would like to see Max Palmer of Nike and on Last Resort please.
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I agree, but this brings up a real good point. Given the ties a lot of the Polar crew has with Nike, I wouldnít be surprised if Pontus swoops up tons of free agents from this for Last Resort

I for one, think thatíd be sick. Hopefully some of Johnny Wilsonís dudes do too. Nik Stain would look mad sick in a pair of those high top LRís.

Please, go on.....
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Re: is nike cutting skate program soon?
« Reply #74 on: April 28, 2021, 12:33:10 AM »
A few questions:
- Is Mike Sinclair involved with Nike in any way? I tend to forget?

- Isn't this really strange timing? Nike wants "athletes" and now that skateboarding is going to the olympics and it will get major exposure, they're dropping the skateprogram? Weird.

- Also this statement which has nothing to with skating: The whole sneakerhead thing gets huuuuuuuuugely affected by what Nike sb puts out. Nike Sb dunks ALWAYS sell out immediately and if you look on stock X they'll some models probably will be up there with the most expensive sneakers ever. If Nike Sb gets cancelled it will be a MAJOR shift in the sneakercollecting world. Nike Sb dunks will only get more valuable ...

I think that the "rumor" is that there will be no more SB, so it would all be regular Nikes. So it would still be a safe space for sneakerheads, but without a huge team and 7 TM's.
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Re: is nike cutting skate program soon?
« Reply #75 on: April 28, 2021, 02:07:51 AM »
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A few questions:
- Is Mike Sinclair involved with Nike in any way? I tend to forget?

- Isn't this really strange timing? Nike wants "athletes" and now that skateboarding is going to the olympics and it will get major exposure, they're dropping the skateprogram? Weird.

- Also this statement which has nothing to with skating: The whole sneakerhead thing gets huuuuuuuuugely affected by what Nike sb puts out. Nike Sb dunks ALWAYS sell out immediately and if you look on stock X they'll some models probably will be up there with the most expensive sneakers ever. If Nike Sb gets cancelled it will be a MAJOR shift in the sneakercollecting world. Nike Sb dunks will only get more valuable ...
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I think that the "rumor" is that there will be no more SB, so it would all be regular Nikes. So it would still be a safe space for sneakerheads, but without a huge team and 7 TM's.

Itís been awhile since the ďdropping the SBĒ rumor was going around.  Is it anything really more dramatic than Nike trimming the bloat from the roster?   They do flow or pay a huge ass amount of people.   

Iím not sad that Zion and Midler arenít on the team anymore and the other guys Iíve heard getting cut are like semi-retired types who probably donít give that much value back for what they made.   

Instead of being angry this company did that for so long, maybe look at it as it being rad that it lasted for as long as it did.   I mean, as much as I like Justin Brock, is he really doing anything for Nike in return?   

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Re: is nike cutting skate program soon?
« Reply #76 on: April 28, 2021, 02:17:42 AM »
nike is firing people all over. it's not an sb thing, because their sb program is doing great in terms of sales and popularity. it's a covid and supplychain issue where nike aren't meeting their numbers as a corporation and that will take time to recoup. the result is that tons of people are without contracts currently waiting for the board to land on something, others won't have contracts renewed and they are tightening the rope on number of flow/ams/pros and euro dudes.

it's a shitty situation, because now people have to go ask carihurama for free shoes.

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Re: is nike cutting skate program soon?
« Reply #77 on: April 28, 2021, 02:25:43 AM »
nike is firing people all over. it's not an sb thing, because their sb program is doing great in terms of sales and popularity. it's a covid and supplychain issue where nike aren't meeting their numbers as a corporation and that will take time to recoup. the result is that tons of people are without contracts currently waiting for the board to land on something, others won't have contracts renewed and they are tightening the rope on number of flow/ams/pros and euro dudes.

it's a shitty situation, because now people have to go ask carihurama for free shoes.

Well, Cariuma definitely should be your last resort
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Re: is nike cutting skate program soon?
« Reply #78 on: April 28, 2021, 03:09:08 AM »
Max Palmer, Nik Stain, and all those type of cool guys all skate blazers and those last resort shoe kind of look like blazers. However, Pontus mentioned that he wasn't into building a team that much but rather give people he likes some shoes now and then. These guys would be a perfect fit and I would love to see Last Resort taking a piece of that Nike pie. Some balance in the skater owned and big company battle.

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Re: is nike cutting skate program soon?
« Reply #79 on: April 28, 2021, 04:09:16 AM »
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A few questions:
- Is Mike Sinclair involved with Nike in any way? I tend to forget?

- Isn't this really strange timing? Nike wants "athletes" and now that skateboarding is going to the olympics and it will get major exposure, they're dropping the skateprogram? Weird.

- Also this statement which has nothing to with skating: The whole sneakerhead thing gets huuuuuuuuugely affected by what Nike sb puts out. Nike Sb dunks ALWAYS sell out immediately and if you look on stock X they'll some models probably will be up there with the most expensive sneakers ever. If Nike Sb gets cancelled it will be a MAJOR shift in the sneakercollecting world. Nike Sb dunks will only get more valuable ...
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I think that the "rumor" is that there will be no more SB, so it would all be regular Nikes. So it would still be a safe space for sneakerheads, but without a huge team and 7 TM's.

Yeah, I don't think core skateboarding is significant to Nike's sales. What's important is the masses who might take light influence from different things and cultures. Nike's brand is now recognized by the masses as a part of skate culture and they can keep it up with a few big names.

Similar thing happened with Nike and golf. They made some innovative flashy looking clubs that would generate a lot of conversation. Manufacturing golf clubs was never gonna be significant to their business, but it was a way to inject their brand into the culture. Before, it would've been unfitting to wear Nike on the course or clubhouse, but now it's totally fine.

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Re: is nike cutting skate program soon?
« Reply #80 on: April 28, 2021, 04:30:03 AM »
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A few questions:
- Is Mike Sinclair involved with Nike in any way? I tend to forget?

- Isn't this really strange timing? Nike wants "athletes" and now that skateboarding is going to the olympics and it will get major exposure, they're dropping the skateprogram? Weird.

- Also this statement which has nothing to with skating: The whole sneakerhead thing gets huuuuuuuuugely affected by what Nike sb puts out. Nike Sb dunks ALWAYS sell out immediately and if you look on stock X they'll some models probably will be up there with the most expensive sneakers ever. If Nike Sb gets cancelled it will be a MAJOR shift in the sneakercollecting world. Nike Sb dunks will only get more valuable ...
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I think that the "rumor" is that there will be no more SB, so it would all be regular Nikes. So it would still be a safe space for sneakerheads, but without a huge team and 7 TM's.
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Yeah, I don't think core skateboarding is significant to Nike's sales. What's important is the masses who might take light influence from different things and cultures. Nike's brand is now recognized by the masses as a part of skate culture and they can keep it up with a few big names.

Similar thing happened with Nike and golf. They made some innovative flashy looking clubs that would generate a lot of conversation. Manufacturing golf clubs was never gonna be significant to their business, but it was a way to inject their brand into the culture. Before, it would've been unfitting to wear Nike on the course or clubhouse, but now it's totally fine.

Weird buisness strategy. Well actually it isn't ...

They make huge teams to get the name out and when it's "established" they trim the fat and only keep the lean muscle.

I always wondered how they can afford (I know it's a huge company, but you get what I mean) to sponsor that many skaters (flow and ams included). I know at least 10 people personally that get free nike sb's.

Let's be honest, skateboarding is probably one of the lesser known "sport" in their roster and I'm sure they send the most shoes to skaters since they ruin them the fasted. It has to be a huge amount of money that got thrown at Nike SB.

Probably some bigshot marketing guy said the SB program costs way too much for what they get in return.

I know Youness since he was 5 years old, but I don't have the balls to ask him what's up with Nike ... I have a feeling he'll be dropped soon as wel :-/

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Re: is nike cutting skate program soon?
« Reply #81 on: April 28, 2021, 04:41:20 AM »
Might be useful having a brand-talk subform dedicated exclusively to pal's evolving personal relationships with companies/brands


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Re: is nike cutting skate program soon?
« Reply #82 on: April 28, 2021, 05:33:44 AM »
Might be useful having a brand-talk subform dedicated exclusively to pal's evolving personal relationships with companies/brands
What kind of Ďrelationshipí does one have with a business model?

Apart from producer-consumer? Isnít it just a one-way street of the consumer receiving advertising and goods?

Like the relationship an otaku has with an anime character?
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Re: is nike cutting skate program soon?
« Reply #83 on: April 28, 2021, 05:35:53 AM »
iím starting to get worried about kevin terpeningís career at nike guys

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Re: is nike cutting skate program soon?
« Reply #84 on: April 28, 2021, 06:26:30 AM »
- Isn't this really strange timing? Nike wants "athletes" and now that skateboarding is going to the olympics and it will get major exposure, they're dropping the skateprogram? Weird.



I mean to me the strategy looks like "AWESOME GUYS WE GOT THIS FAR OLYMPICS WOOOOOOOOO, cut all the losers who lose us money the timing is perfect now Nyjah is a legitimate ATHLETE WOOOOOOOO lolz"
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Re: is nike cutting skate program soon?
« Reply #85 on: April 28, 2021, 06:30:29 AM »
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- Isn't this really strange timing? Nike wants "athletes" and now that skateboarding is going to the olympics and it will get major exposure, they're dropping the skateprogram? Weird.

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I mean to me the strategy looks like "AWESOME GUYS WE GOT THIS FAR OLYMPICS WOOOOOOOOO, cut all the losers who lose us money the timing is perfect now Nyjah is a legitimate ATHLETE WOOOOOOOO lolz"

Hahaha :D

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Re: is nike cutting skate program soon?
« Reply #86 on: April 28, 2021, 06:43:13 AM »
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Donít know the financials but I have to imagine that they realized cutting a few dudes and not bro flowing half of the east coast will help their bottom line.

Nike is probably tightening up on all their verticals anyways. Their cash cow basketball program likely underperformed due to COVID closing all of the indoor courts. Only black people and New Yorkers like their running shoes over Asics, so that probably didnít make up the difference.
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You obviously know absolutely nothing about running. I despise Nike and their running shoes but it would be a gigantic lie to say that they arenít a top brand. Look at how dominate the Vaporfly next% and dragon fly are.

You have Runnerís sponsored by other companies wearing them in competition. Look no further than Great Britainís marathon trials a month ago where Chris Thompson won wearing the Alphafly but is a pro for OnCloud. Or hell Nico Young wore the dragon fly during a 5000 meter event last weekend and painted the adidas three stripes on them.
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Brooks and ASICS are top two for running IMO.
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On Cloud is huge as well
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as someone who worked in the running/triathlon space for years; nike is absolutely still #1. look at the recent US marathon trials. off the top of my head, 43 of the top 50 dudes were in nikes, including the winner, galen rupp. brooks is big in the 30+ non hyper competitive world. ON cloud is growing, especially with that federer endormsement.

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Is it that time of year again?  Should have known since I saw someone say Nike bought Janoskiís last name from him in a different thread
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Do we know if this has ever been debunked???
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Stefan has denied it in a ton of interviews.
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bruh this is like decade old news. he had a lawyer look into what nike was paying him when the janoski first started going nuts coming out in 30 colors a month. to no ones surprise he was owed millions. allegedly he traded them rights to his name for an undisclosed amount and bought him an apartment on 14th street. most likely part of the contract that he has to deny it.


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This makes absolutely no sense. Why would you trade your name to Nike in perpetuity in order to receive money that a court would justly award you?
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it isn't true. literally over and over and over and over, he's said it isn't true. here's an interview from 6 years ago! http://www.placeskateboarding.de/stefan-janoski-interview/

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I think the rumor is Nike bought my name. But itís just stupid internet shitÖ I donít know where that came from. The rumor is that I sold my name to Nike, but I donít even know how that works really. I think it was the talk-show kid who started thisÖ I donít know why.
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Stefan in interviews:  ďnoooo silly, Nike didnít buy my name!  They simply gave me a lump sum payment in exchange for putting the name Stefan Janoski on the tongues of as many shoes as they want without paying me a proportionate royalty.  They totally didnít buy my name, I donít know where thatís coming from!Ē

They bought his name.

So no matter how many times he says that they did not buy it, and without a single scant of evidence and against all logic, you insist it still must be true

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Re: is nike cutting skate program soon?
« Reply #87 on: April 28, 2021, 06:44:31 AM »
if true wondering if all these dudes will be able to get on anything after nike? i personally wouldn t put a former nike head on a real skateshoe company... but i guess skateboarding is stupid enough to throw some money at them again

lol sure man, I bet theyíre all gonna be blackballed from the industry 🙄

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Re: is nike cutting skate program soon?
« Reply #88 on: April 28, 2021, 06:47:13 AM »
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A few questions:
- Is Mike Sinclair involved with Nike in any way? I tend to forget?

- Isn't this really strange timing? Nike wants "athletes" and now that skateboarding is going to the olympics and it will get major exposure, they're dropping the skateprogram? Weird.

- Also this statement which has nothing to with skating: The whole sneakerhead thing gets huuuuuuuuugely affected by what Nike sb puts out. Nike Sb dunks ALWAYS sell out immediately and if you look on stock X they'll some models probably will be up there with the most expensive sneakers ever. If Nike Sb gets cancelled it will be a MAJOR shift in the sneakercollecting world. Nike Sb dunks will only get more valuable ...
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I think that the "rumor" is that there will be no more SB, so it would all be regular Nikes. So it would still be a safe space for sneakerheads, but without a huge team and 7 TM's.
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Is it anything really more dramatic than Nike trimming the bloat from the roster?

Almost certainly nothing more than this.

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Re: is nike cutting skate program soon?
« Reply #89 on: April 28, 2021, 06:54:41 AM »
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Donít know the financials but I have to imagine that they realized cutting a few dudes and not bro flowing half of the east coast will help their bottom line.

Nike is probably tightening up on all their verticals anyways. Their cash cow basketball program likely underperformed due to COVID closing all of the indoor courts. Only black people and New Yorkers like their running shoes over Asics, so that probably didnít make up the difference.
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You obviously know absolutely nothing about running. I despise Nike and their running shoes but it would be a gigantic lie to say that they arenít a top brand. Look at how dominate the Vaporfly next% and dragon fly are.

You have Runnerís sponsored by other companies wearing them in competition. Look no further than Great Britainís marathon trials a month ago where Chris Thompson won wearing the Alphafly but is a pro for OnCloud. Or hell Nico Young wore the dragon fly during a 5000 meter event last weekend and painted the adidas three stripes on them.
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Brooks and ASICS are top two for running IMO.
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On Cloud is huge as well
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as someone who worked in the running/triathlon space for years; nike is absolutely still #1. look at the recent US marathon trials. off the top of my head, 43 of the top 50 dudes were in nikes, including the winner, galen rupp. brooks is big in the 30+ non hyper competitive world. ON cloud is growing, especially with that federer endormsement.

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Is it that time of year again?  Should have known since I saw someone say Nike bought Janoskiís last name from him in a different thread
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Do we know if this has ever been debunked???
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Stefan has denied it in a ton of interviews.
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bruh this is like decade old news. he had a lawyer look into what nike was paying him when the janoski first started going nuts coming out in 30 colors a month. to no ones surprise he was owed millions. allegedly he traded them rights to his name for an undisclosed amount and bought him an apartment on 14th street. most likely part of the contract that he has to deny it.


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This makes absolutely no sense. Why would you trade your name to Nike in perpetuity in order to receive money that a court would justly award you?
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it isn't true. literally over and over and over and over, he's said it isn't true. here's an interview from 6 years ago! http://www.placeskateboarding.de/stefan-janoski-interview/

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I think the rumor is Nike bought my name. But itís just stupid internet shitÖ I donít know where that came from. The rumor is that I sold my name to Nike, but I donít even know how that works really. I think it was the talk-show kid who started thisÖ I donít know why.
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Stefan in interviews:  ďnoooo silly, Nike didnít buy my name!  They simply gave me a lump sum payment in exchange for putting the name Stefan Janoski on the tongues of as many shoes as they want without paying me a proportionate royalty.  They totally didnít buy my name, I donít know where thatís coming from!Ē

They bought his name.
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So no matter how many times he says that they did not buy it, and without a single scant of evidence and against all logic, you insist it still must be true
Look, of course they didn't BuY H1s NaMe.  But they did buy the right to license his name on as many shoes as they want without paying him a commensurate royalty.  And he doesn't deny that, he only denies the absurd notion that they would purchase his entire name/identity.  Which, duh.  It's a nuance, and he exploits that nuance to make the people questioning it sound ridiculous.