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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #10050 on: April 07, 2021, 03:24:17 PM »
What's the word on Indy Titanium? I'm feeling the truck madness seep in again after going from Thunder to Venture, love the slide but finding the right popping point and matching deck is tough. Thinking of 144 Titanium.

they're nice, but forged hollow are barely heavier and decently cheaper.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #10051 on: April 07, 2021, 03:40:25 PM »
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What's the word on Indy Titanium? I'm feeling the truck madness seep in again after going from Thunder to Venture, love the slide but finding the right popping point and matching deck is tough. Thinking of 144 Titanium.
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I've got an unused pair of 144 TI (mounted not skated) I'm sitting on, let me know! I'm holding out for the Ti Mids.
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #10052 on: April 07, 2021, 04:09:10 PM »
The temperature is swinging wildly here in the pas couple weeks, from mid 30s to 80, and my trucks feel different every time I skate. Iím really fighting swapping bushings.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #10053 on: April 07, 2021, 05:09:48 PM »
Indy just posted a photo of the mid baseplate on their IG story. No logo on them. No update on a forged or Ti version though.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #10054 on: April 07, 2021, 07:45:37 PM »
The temperature is swinging wildly here in the pas couple weeks, from mid 30s to 80, and my trucks feel different every time I skate. Iím really fighting swapping bushings.

I started skating bones hards in my thunders for the Arizona summers because that 110 degree heat will turn your shit to mush real quick and that's been working for me. I'm about to get some new ones soon since it's already warming up out here and I'm still skating the ones I switched to last summer

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« Reply #10055 on: April 08, 2021, 08:29:19 AM »
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The temperature is swinging wildly here in the pas couple weeks, from mid 30s to 80, and my trucks feel different every time I skate. Iím really fighting swapping bushings.
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I started skating bones hards in my thunders for the Arizona summers because that 110 degree heat will turn your shit to mush real quick and that's been working for me. I'm about to get some new ones soon since it's already warming up out here and I'm still skating the ones I switched to last summer

I was skating bones mediums on top during the winter, and they didnít seem as temperature sensitive  as the Indy softs Iím riding now. They broke, though. The Indys shrink and just turn to stone below a certain temperature.

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« Reply #10056 on: April 13, 2021, 06:21:08 PM »
I have No 'hard' soap att home to fix the noise of My trucks. Does wax or liquid soap work?

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« Reply #10057 on: April 13, 2021, 07:43:35 PM »
Wax the pivot itself.

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« Reply #10058 on: April 14, 2021, 09:47:47 PM »
I have No 'hard' soap att home to fix the noise of My trucks. Does wax or liquid soap work?
dish washing liquid works pretty well

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« Reply #10059 on: April 17, 2021, 07:34:09 PM »
Set up some Krux K5 on an FA 8.375.
Previously went from Venture, to Indys, and then Thunders. Krux have a procrastinated turn. Youíll lean and they wonít turn immediately but once youíre about to wheelbite. I have some Ace bushings that I may swap over if they donít break in yet.

Update:
Went to wax my pivot cups. They came off with the hangar.
I took them off the hangar and filled the NHS warranty. I still waxed the pivot part on the hangar and it made an astronomical difference. Iím assuming my pivot cups are defective, possibly.
Theyíre a faster more responsive truck, they feel like something between an Indy and Thunder. Instead of the usual Venture-esque turn.
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #10060 on: April 17, 2021, 08:53:29 PM »
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Set up some Krux K5 on an FA 8.375.
Previously went from Venture, to Indys, and then Thunders. Krux have a procrastinated turn. Youíll lean and they wonít turn immediately but once youíre about to wheelbite. I have some Ace bushings that I may swap over if they donít break in yet.
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Update:
Went to wax my pivot cups. They came off with the hangar.
I took them off the hangar and filled the NHS warranty. I still waxed the pivot part on the hangar and it made an astronomical difference. Iím assuming my pivot cups are defective, possibly.
Theyíre a faster more responsive truck, they feel like something between an Indy and Thunder. Instead of the usual Venture-esque turn.

I have some k5ís as well and have had that same experience with the sluggish turn. Iíll have to wax my pivots. How are the bushings now? Did you swap them out or are they fully broken in yet? Iíve ran krux bushings in my indys and I loved them, I definitely think theyíre one of the best stock bushings

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #10061 on: April 17, 2021, 10:25:09 PM »
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Set up some Krux K5 on an FA 8.375.
Previously went from Venture, to Indys, and then Thunders. Krux have a procrastinated turn. Youíll lean and they wonít turn immediately but once youíre about to wheelbite. I have some Ace bushings that I may swap over if they donít break in yet.
[close]

Update:
Went to wax my pivot cups. They came off with the hangar.
I took them off the hangar and filled the NHS warranty. I still waxed the pivot part on the hangar and it made an astronomical difference. Iím assuming my pivot cups are defective, possibly.
Theyíre a faster more responsive truck, they feel like something between an Indy and Thunder. Instead of the usual Venture-esque turn.
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I have some k5ís as well and have had that same experience with the sluggish turn. Iíll have to wax my pivots. How are the bushings now? Did you swap them out or are they fully broken in yet? Iíve ran krux bushings in my indys and I loved them, I definitely think theyíre one of the best stock bushings

Itís all still stock. Iíve been skating them for 13 days.
I ran the trucks flush and had to tighten them more. It does turn so much better. You should definitely try it.
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #10062 on: April 18, 2021, 04:24:22 PM »
Weird discovery today, I have 2 set-ups with both 14' WB. My forged 5.2 Hi ventures have a smaller wheelbase than my cast 147 thunders. Anyone notice this as well? I always thought that forged plates extend the WB and that ventures generally have the longest WB when compared to other truck brands that it "should've" been a longer WB than the thunders.

Regardless, I've been loving how ventures feel for noseslides and I find the turn of them to be really good just by running them stock and using a flat top washer. I don't find them to be lacking in turn at all lol (I've ridden thunders religiously and have skated Ace 33's and 44's)

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #10063 on: April 18, 2021, 07:05:32 PM »
Weird discovery today, I have 2 set-ups with both 14' WB. My forged 5.2 Hi ventures have a smaller wheelbase than my cast 147 thunders. Anyone notice this as well? I always thought that forged plates extend the WB and that ventures generally have the longest WB when compared to other truck brands that it "should've" been a longer WB than the thunders.

Regardless, I've been loving how ventures feel for noseslides and I find the turn of them to be really good just by running them stock and using a flat top washer. I don't find them to be lacking in turn at all lol (I've ridden thunders religiously and have skated Ace 33's and 44's)

Be careful friend-o, you're throwing everything we've ever held true out the window. Going to need a re-measure on that WB. Venture Forged should do +3.4 - 3.5", Thunder Cast should do 3.15".

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #10064 on: April 18, 2021, 07:46:02 PM »
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Set up some Krux K5 on an FA 8.375.
Previously went from Venture, to Indys, and then Thunders. Krux have a procrastinated turn. Youíll lean and they wonít turn immediately but once youíre about to wheelbite. I have some Ace bushings that I may swap over if they donít break in yet.
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Update:
Went to wax my pivot cups. They came off with the hangar.
I took them off the hangar and filled the NHS warranty. I still waxed the pivot part on the hangar and it made an astronomical difference. Iím assuming my pivot cups are defective, possibly.
Theyíre a faster more responsive truck, they feel like something between an Indy and Thunder. Instead of the usual Venture-esque turn.
[close]

I have some k5ís as well and have had that same experience with the sluggish turn. Iíll have to wax my pivots. How are the bushings now? Did you swap them out or are they fully broken in yet? Iíve ran krux bushings in my indys and I loved them, I definitely think theyíre one of the best stock bushings
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Itís all still stock. Iíve been skating them for 13 days.
I ran the trucks flush and had to tighten them more. It does turn so much better. You should definitely try it.
big fan of the k5s as well, had them about a month, also stock. i liked the old krux too though so ymmv.

i find it funny that the common complaint about krux is the delayed turn. its actually what brought me back to them. to me it feels more like a deadzone and because im generally shit at skating it has saved my ass more than once. im sure someone with abs or whatever would find it annoying but yeah i loved that about the old ones. the new ones feel a lot more responsive though.

also krux grind the best idk why they just do

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« Reply #10065 on: April 19, 2021, 06:52:17 AM »
I'm currently riding independent conical bushings in thunder 148 and it's absolutely perfect.
Found nothing about people doing that and didn't expect it to work.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #10066 on: April 19, 2021, 09:35:25 AM »
Weird discovery today, I have 2 set-ups with both 14' WB. My forged 5.2 Hi ventures have a smaller wheelbase than my cast 147 thunders. Anyone notice this as well? I always thought that forged plates extend the WB and that ventures generally have the longest WB when compared to other truck brands that it "should've" been a longer WB than the thunders.

Regardless, I've been loving how ventures feel for noseslides and I find the turn of them to be really good just by running them stock and using a flat top washer. I don't find them to be lacking in turn at all lol (I've ridden thunders religiously and have skated Ace 33's and 44's)

should be noted that tightening trucks or changing bushings (or having the bushings compress over time) will make your WB a bit smaller.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #10067 on: April 19, 2021, 09:59:04 AM »
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Weird discovery today, I have 2 set-ups with both 14' WB. My forged 5.2 Hi ventures have a smaller wheelbase than my cast 147 thunders. Anyone notice this as well? I always thought that forged plates extend the WB and that ventures generally have the longest WB when compared to other truck brands that it "should've" been a longer WB than the thunders.

Regardless, I've been loving how ventures feel for noseslides and I find the turn of them to be really good just by running them stock and using a flat top washer. I don't find them to be lacking in turn at all lol (I've ridden thunders religiously and have skated Ace 33's and 44's)
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Be careful friend-o, you're throwing everything we've ever held true out the window. Going to need a re-measure on that WB. Venture Forged should do +3.4 - 3.5", Thunder Cast should do 3.15".

carpet 8' board and sanded down Girl G023 shape
I didn't take a pic of it but the measurements from axle to axle are listed below:
Thunder ~ 17.5'
Venture - 17'
I'm no expert in measuring stuff, but there's clearly a difference when I line up the axles of the back trucks



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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #10068 on: April 19, 2021, 11:14:18 AM »
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Weird discovery today, I have 2 set-ups with both 14' WB. My forged 5.2 Hi ventures have a smaller wheelbase than my cast 147 thunders. Anyone notice this as well? I always thought that forged plates extend the WB and that ventures generally have the longest WB when compared to other truck brands that it "should've" been a longer WB than the thunders.

Regardless, I've been loving how ventures feel for noseslides and I find the turn of them to be really good just by running them stock and using a flat top washer. I don't find them to be lacking in turn at all lol (I've ridden thunders religiously and have skated Ace 33's and 44's)
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Be careful friend-o, you're throwing everything we've ever held true out the window. Going to need a re-measure on that WB. Venture Forged should do +3.4 - 3.5", Thunder Cast should do 3.15".
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carpet 8' board and sanded down Girl G023 shape
I didn't take a pic of it but the measurements from axle to axle are listed below:
Thunder ~ 17.5'
Venture - 17'
I'm no expert in measuring stuff, but there's clearly a difference when I line up the axles of the back trucks



that carpet deck is listed as 14.25
https://www.skatedeluxe.com/en/carpet-company-blank-8-deck-multi_p147623

use tailors tape, if you cant clearly see where the inch starts then the whole thing is off.

dont even bother remeasuring, i wouldnt trust your accuracy based on these pictures alone. countless reputable posters have put this to bed already
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« Reply #10069 on: April 19, 2021, 11:48:49 AM »
I'm currently riding independent conical bushings in thunder 148 and it's absolutely perfect.
Found nothing about people doing that and didn't expect it to work.

Plenty of us have...here's a small sampling from [searching] this thread.

I was a Thunder guy for 10 years. Lately been on other trucks to kind of test the field but other reason was that got annoyed because those stock bushings would get destroyed so fast. I ride my trucks stock loose and still those bushings would just explode.

Last set i rode, i changed Indy conical bushings which are same height but little wider and didn't have any problems with them.

I switched to thunder hollow lights w/88a indy conical aftermarkets (broken in and sanded down top bushing) with sleeved washers, which, since the bottom sleeved washer is a bit thicker, brought them to the same exact height as stock thunder bottoms (!).



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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #10070 on: April 19, 2021, 12:02:13 PM »
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I'm currently riding independent conical bushings in thunder 148 and it's absolutely perfect.
Found nothing about people doing that and didn't expect it to work.
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Plenty of us have...here's a small sampling from [searching] this thread.

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I was a Thunder guy for 10 years. Lately been on other trucks to kind of test the field but other reason was that got annoyed because those stock bushings would get destroyed so fast. I ride my trucks stock loose and still those bushings would just explode.

Last set i rode, i changed Indy conical bushings which are same height but little wider and didn't have any problems with them.
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I switched to thunder hollow lights w/88a indy conical aftermarkets (broken in and sanded down top bushing) with sleeved washers, which, since the bottom sleeved washer is a bit thicker, brought them to the same exact height as stock thunder bottoms (!).
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #10071 on: April 19, 2021, 12:26:49 PM »
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Weird discovery today, I have 2 set-ups with both 14' WB. My forged 5.2 Hi ventures have a smaller wheelbase than my cast 147 thunders. Anyone notice this as well? I always thought that forged plates extend the WB and that ventures generally have the longest WB when compared to other truck brands that it "should've" been a longer WB than the thunders.

Regardless, I've been loving how ventures feel for noseslides and I find the turn of them to be really good just by running them stock and using a flat top washer. I don't find them to be lacking in turn at all lol (I've ridden thunders religiously and have skated Ace 33's and 44's)
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Be careful friend-o, you're throwing everything we've ever held true out the window. Going to need a re-measure on that WB. Venture Forged should do +3.4 - 3.5", Thunder Cast should do 3.15".
[close]

carpet 8' board and sanded down Girl G023 shape
I didn't take a pic of it but the measurements from axle to axle are listed below:
Thunder ~ 17.5'
Venture - 17'
I'm no expert in measuring stuff, but there's clearly a difference when I line up the axles of the back trucks



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that carpet deck is listed as 14.25
https://www.skatedeluxe.com/en/carpet-company-blank-8-deck-multi_p147623

use tailors tape, if you cant clearly see where the inch starts then the whole thing is off.

dont even bother remeasuring, i wouldnt trust your accuracy based on these pictures alone. countless reputable posters have put this to bed already

appreciate the confirmation. like I said, i'm not an expert in measuring

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« Reply #10072 on: April 19, 2021, 02:39:03 PM »
Lol, idk what you're talking about, shit looks like 14" to me. Doesn't matter if you can read the one or not, the end of the tape is on the center of the hole...

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« Reply #10073 on: April 19, 2021, 02:56:21 PM »
Lol, idk what you're talking about, shit looks like 14" to me. Doesn't matter if you can read the one or not, the end of the tape is on the center of the hole...

Yea but the end of the tape is the metal attachment thing and thats not always flush with where the measuring tape begins. We're talking a 1/8th or 1/4 of an inch here so even these things make a difference. You should measure starting from the 1 inch part of the measuring tape, press it flat against the board and then subtract 1 inch from the total. Not go vaguely from the end of the metal L shaped thing.

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« Reply #10074 on: April 19, 2021, 03:04:42 PM »
if it made that big of a difference i dont think theyd build buildings with those

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #10075 on: April 19, 2021, 03:39:52 PM »
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Lol, idk what you're talking about, shit looks like 14" to me. Doesn't matter if you can read the one or not, the end of the tape is on the center of the hole...
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Yea but the end of the tape is the metal attachment thing and thats not always flush with where the measuring tape begins. We're talking a 1/8th or 1/4 of an inch here so even these things make a difference. You should measure starting from the 1 inch part of the measuring tape, press it flat against the board and then subtract 1 inch from the total. Not go vaguely from the end of the metal L shaped thing.

That is built into tape measures so that you get the same measurement if you hook and pull the measurement, or if its butted up. It's usually 1/16"-1/8" but can grow with older/poor quality tapes. Upon further review, he does have the tape pushed in on the carpet, pulled out on the girl, potentially causing the 1/4" discrepancy. I would like to retract my previous comment and would have to agree a tailors tape would be a better tool here. Since we are looking for the most accurate measurement.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #10076 on: April 22, 2021, 05:45:42 AM »
A friend gave me an 8.5" with Thunder 149s ver. II and I'm enjoying it so far.

Had a disastrous experience with the old geometry 149ers where the wheelbite was so bad it would pitch me. Riding smallish (for me) older wheels on this and it hasn't been an issue on street. We'll see about transition and if I can say the same with fresh 54mm wheels. 

Turning is almost as good as my regular Venture 5.2 Highs and being so low I haven't had a single ghost pop. I still think I prefer a slightly narrower board but I'm going to fool around on this for a while.

TL;DR: I liked a 5 year old truck redesign.

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« Reply #10077 on: April 22, 2021, 11:08:23 AM »
How does risers affect the turn of a truck?

Will it turn more with risers or just lean more?

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #10078 on: April 22, 2021, 11:49:36 AM »


I got a pair of the thrasher indys hollow 159s off some guy who sold a practically new complete for 40. Probably stole it, but my gf got me some kreper kingpins for Christmas and i put em on there. I love them so far
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #10079 on: April 22, 2021, 01:15:15 PM »


I got a pair of the thrasher indys hollow 159s off some guy who sold a practically new complete for 40. Probably stole it, but my gf got me some kreper kingpins for Christmas and i put em on there. I love them so far

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