Truck set-ups

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I'm riding Indy Stage 11 139 standards with bones hard bushings on the bottom and mediums on top, I kept the top washer on so I can get my ideal tightness/looseness without the bolt sticking out too far above the lock ring.

I've been enjoying this setup and want to get some hollows and put the standards on my winter/indoor ramp board. I ride an 8" board.

The story on the mixed bushings:

The stock bushings crushed and peeled. So I bought Bones mediums and really liked them. After a few months though, the front bottom bushing squashed out.

I bought Bones hard bushings but they turned out to be too stiff. So I came here, searched for threads on bushings, found a reply by someone saying they use hards on the bottom (at the baseplate) and medium on top (at the bolt) and it was perfect for them. So, I figured I'd try it before buying another pack of bushings. I love it. It could be that where I live it's been like 90-100 degrees and humid as fuck, but it's working for me now and feels great. Might be a different story after I move back to the east coast and skate in the fall and winter.

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Just my experience, but bones hards break in really well after a week and feel like a fresh set of mediums for the life of the bushings. The mediums rule new but they just die too quickly.

Have an old set of hards on my cruiser and they're perfect.

This.
Mediums are beat. And softs always broke immediately, for me.

[manysnakes]

I’m a featherweight and I blew out my Bones soft bushings almost immediately.

[Xen]

I can’t stomach the break in periods on hards, did it twice; it’s brutal if you ride loose (they were perfect in ace los tho).

Once the hards are broken in, yeah, mediums for life tho.

[FatGuy92]

Does anyone know the height of Thunder 147 hollow lights? I know the 148s and above are around 51mm but how low are the 147s?

[goodatmeth]

Does anyone know the height of Thunder 147 hollow lights? I know the 148s and above are around 51mm but how low are the 147s?

Thunder website says 49mm

[ok boomer]

Anyone ride Thunder 147 on 8.25?

[phlap]

Anyone ride Thunder 147 on 8.25?

Rode 'em on an 8.25 Heroin board with a big fat nose and tail. They worked perfectly.

[ok boomer]

Pondering trying Thunder 147 again, but every board I am digging is 8.25. But also I like smallerish trucks, so hopefully not tippy

[FatGuy92]

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Does anyone know the height of Thunder 147 hollow lights? I know the 148s and above are around 51mm but how low are the 147s?

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Thunder website says 49mm

Somehow completely missed that. Thanks man!

[FatGuy92]

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Anyone ride Thunder 147 on 8.25?

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Rode 'em on an 8.25 Heroin board with a big fat nose and tail. They worked perfectly.

+1 I used to ride 147 HL with FA 8.25 (when they were using PS) and loved it

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Pondering trying Thunder 147 again, but every board I am digging is 8.25. But also I like smallerish trucks, so hopefully not tippy

The coolest thing about 147s is that they are low/less tippy.
I’m a fan of the overhang, probably from skating so many 7.75s on 5.0s growing up.
I’m back on 147s. Haven’t thought about changing my shit up since I put them back on.

[Xen]

Anyone ride Thunder 147 on 8.25?

Yep, a few times. I find I prefer them on 8.125s and 144s for 8.25s,

[wilk]

Pondering trying Thunder 147 again, but every board I am digging is 8.25. But also I like smallerish trucks, so hopefully not tippy

I'm on a 8.3 with 147's, strangely not that tippy at all but you do get a little more tip than like a 8 but it's not bad tip...it's the kind of tip that can make pressure flips easier if you are into those, like deliberate..but not tip that will like tip the board if you carve hard, it's more of a floaty kind of ride, Ishod was spot on with that analogy. Grinding 5050 on flatbars have been a little more comfortable for some reason. When you land primo... don't expect to get that primo stab, nah the board just folds whichever way..I've yet to do that like accidental rail stand thing. I actually like it but I'm going back down to 8.1 soon, for reasons that have nothing to do with the way the trucks perform on the board, it really does work fine. 8.3 is too much board for me...I've done 8.25 and it feels nearly identical so you'll be fine if you like 8.25.

[rosemaryBB]

For ppl who've tried aftermarket pivot cups, specifically riptide, how crucial do you find this change? Is this swap out something that y'all continued to do or is it just some excessive truck madness nerd shit that doesn't really matter?

[Firebert]

For ppl who've tried aftermarket pivot cups, specifically riptide, how crucial do you find this change? Is this swap out something that y'all continued to do or is it just some excessive truck madness nerd shit that doesn't really matter?

Absolutely necessary unless you got AF1s in which case the stock ones fit better.

[listentoaheartbeat]

For ppl who've tried aftermarket pivot cups, specifically riptide, how crucial do you find this change? Is this swap out something that y'all continued to do or is it just some excessive truck madness nerd shit that doesn't really matter?

I just replaced pivot cups for the first time ever, my old Indy 169s were super squeaky and wax or oil didn't help. Used the Independent replacement cups, squeaking went away but the trucks feel the same otherwise. I've been changing my setup a lot lately so maybe I am not too sensitive to subtle differences but it didn't feel like the pivot cup has a huge effect on truck performance.

[Xen]

For ppl who've tried aftermarket pivot cups, specifically riptide, how crucial do you find this change? Is this swap out something that y'all continued to do or is it just some excessive truck madness nerd shit that doesn't really matter?

On ACE Classics a must swap. AF1s, no need.

Currently Indy cups (and bushings) are really, really good, I don't even bother with swapping anymore.

[manysnakes]

For ppl who've tried aftermarket pivot cups, specifically riptide, how crucial do you find this change? Is this swap out something that y'all continued to do or is it just some excessive truck madness nerd shit that doesn't really matter?

A waste of money, excessive madness shit that people (myself included) convince themselves they need. Any truck that needs them out of the box isn’t a truck worth buying in the first place.

I’m of the opinion that injection molded plastic is, for this application, preferable to polyurethane. 

[FrozenIndustries]

I am the opposite, I think riptides are great. The turn and rebound feel quicker, maybe due to the softer urethane deforming more easily. A harder pivot cup might be more stable, but I don't care about that so much.

[DaSk8D00D]

Anyone else skate Thunders with Bones bushings? I just tried to go back to the stock thunder bushings after using Bones Hards for the past couple years and that shit felt so gross


I had to tighten the shit out of my trucks just for them to feel halfway stable. Had like 3-4 kingpin threads showing Said fuck it and went back to my Bones Hards where the nut sits flush, I don't need that kind of energy in my life

[franquietits]

^Just go for some Venoms. Identical shape to thunders with a sheet load of duros to choose from. Longboarders got the bushing game figured out.

http://venomskate.com/street-bushings/

[shawngreg]

alright going to grab my first set of Thunders. i’ve skated Indys most of my life but past 2-3 years been riding 5.8 titanium ventures.  out of the diff thunder models where should i start?  going to get 149s, but do you think standard, hollow lite, titanium?  any input is appreciated

[j....soy.....]

Titanium or hollows....I prefer the team ones because I like cast baseplates versus forged.  It's a tiny bit more height, I like the look, and I swap out the kingpins...now I skate forged on ventures though and they are just fine. 

What I think you'll be getting is a lower lighter truck.  What I didn't like was the clearance, grinding through trucks quickly, and wheelbite......

[goodatmeth]

alright going to grab my first set of Thunders. i’ve skated Indys most of my life but past 2-3 years been riding 5.8 titanium ventures.  out of the diff thunder models where should i start?  going to get 149s, but do you think standard, hollow lite, titanium?  any input is appreciated

If you find thunder titaniums anywhere, grab as many as you can. I wish I had bought more of them before they suddenly disappeared. Best truck ever

[Fooj]

alright going to grab my first set of Thunders. i’ve skated Indys most of my life but past 2-3 years been riding 5.8 titanium ventures.  out of the diff thunder models where should i start?  going to get 149s, but do you think standard, hollow lite, titanium?  any input is appreciated

Id say grab any thunders with cast plates, especially if youre coming from a higher truck like indy.


On another note...looks like Yuto on some V lows with hards and 51mms? I might try that combo tomorrow

[Boog]

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alright going to grab my first set of Thunders. i’ve skated Indys most of my life but past 2-3 years been riding 5.8 titanium ventures.  out of the diff thunder models where should i start?  going to get 149s, but do you think standard, hollow lite, titanium?  any input is appreciated

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Id say grab any thunders with cast plates, especially if youre coming from a higher truck like indy.


On another note...looks like Yuto on some V lows with hards and 51mms? I might try that combo tomorrow

This is my setup except on Hi's. It's the truth.

[sbmfj]

Just set up a new pair of 144 hollows, silver. They come with the standard orange bushings.

My previous pair of 144 were also hollows but had blue baseplates and white bushings.

Any idea if the white and orange bushings are the same?

With my new trucks I’ve had to tighten em down a bit to get em where I like em ( I’m a bigger guy 215 lbs so need to tighten em up) but I’ve noticed the bushings starting to crack a bit. The trucks also seem to stick to one side a bit. Mind you one session in.

As per some google image. Apparently white bushing are softer than the orange ones.

Might swap out the orange for the white bushing if it doesn’t get better next session or so.

I see my hanger also feels a little
Loose on one truck. Almost like the pivot cup gave in already.

Thanks for insight.

[Srt32srt]

Im curious about how you guys set your trucks up, special methods, preferences and all that nerdy stuff.
 
Here's mine:
Thunder 147's riding 8.1-825 and 54 wheels
-replacement 100a Thunder bushings
-Bottom washers left out
-Front truck Flush( edit:perhaps the smallest tad under now) with some wobble
-Back truck 1-2 threads showing edit: correction, back truck is now barely over flush, loosened it when It got colder
-risers

Seriously can't complain about this set-up in anyway, for me its perfect, loose up front for quick turns and tighter in back stabilises on landings and at high speeds. The hard bushing and loose front works really well for me, best of both worlds.

doesnt the looser truck up front make skating switch less stable when landing? i use to set my trucks up like that but made skating switch way less stable at the skate park.

[listentoaheartbeat]

Went 169 Titanium after years on regular 169s and love them. Couldn't believe how much of a difference it makes for essentially every popped trick. But even casual Shove-Its feel so much better. New old problem however are the fucking bushings. Big guy with big feet—no way I can use soft or medium bushings.

Recently tried the black Indy conical bushings which didn't rebound at all. My best bet for years have been Bones hard, however the clicking and creaking with the hard plastic insert drives me crazy. I can even feel the plastic bouncing off the kingpin under my feet. Are there any other options I could try without messing with the geometry of the truck?

[FrozenIndustries]

Went 169 Titanium after years on regular 169s and love them. Couldn't believe how much of a difference it makes for essentially every popped trick. But even casual Shove-Its feel so much better. New old problem however are the fucking bushings. Big guy with big feet—no way I can use soft or medium bushings.

Recently tried the black Indy conical bushings which didn't rebound at all. My best bet for years have been Bones hard, however the clicking and creaking with the hard plastic insert drives me crazy. I can even feel the plastic bouncing off the kingpin under my feet. Are there any other options I could try without messing with the geometry of the truck?

Indy Blue 92 barrel bushings. The best Indy bushing if you're a little bigger.