Truck set-ups

[Murge]

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I'm sure this has been covered in the last 350 pages, but what bushings are you People Of Size running?  I tried my Indy's with the stock bushings and they split in 30 minutes, so I threw in some Bones mediums that were in my bag.  My other board has Bones hard and I really like em, but I'm trying to get used to riding looser trucks.  I'm guessing Indy bushings are worth trying?

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Recently tried the blue cylinder Indy bushings and they are really good. Bit too soft for me though, so I put Bones Hard on top. Now it’s too hard with nut flush, and squeaking like crazy. Might go back to all blue and learn to deal with looser trucks like you intend to.

So when you guys rub different duro bushings for top and bottom what dictates which side is harder and which is softer?

I broke out my old Indy TIs after skating ace classics then af1s. I just couldn’t never get the pinch on Aces I wanted. When I did it felt like I just got lucky and not did it because I meant too. Anyway ace felt stable for me and my flip tricks felt good but had no pinch. Now I’m on Indy ti. Legs feel good pop good flick sucks pinch getting back. I have Indy yellow bottoms and blue tops. Do I have this backwards

[listentoaheartbeat]

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I'm sure this has been covered in the last 350 pages, but what bushings are you People Of Size running?  I tried my Indy's with the stock bushings and they split in 30 minutes, so I threw in some Bones mediums that were in my bag.  My other board has Bones hard and I really like em, but I'm trying to get used to riding looser trucks.  I'm guessing Indy bushings are worth trying?

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Recently tried the blue cylinder Indy bushings and they are really good. Bit too soft for me though, so I put Bones Hard on top. Now it’s too hard with nut flush, and squeaking like crazy. Might go back to all blue and learn to deal with looser trucks like you intend to.

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So when you guys rub different duro bushings for top and bottom what dictates which side is harder and which is softer?

I broke out my old Indy TIs after skating ace classics then af1s. I just couldn’t never get the pinch on Aces I wanted. When I did it felt like I just got lucky and not did it because I meant too. Anyway ace felt stable for me and my flip tricks felt good but had no pinch. Now I’m on Indy ti. Legs feel good pop good flick sucks pinch getting back. I have Indy yellow bottoms and blue tops. Do I have this backwards

Honestly, just went by some recommendations from this thread and also it felt like the right thing to do intuitively. I also remembered someone used a bottom bushing with only washers on top that would lock before wheelbite. Thought the mellower version of this would be a hard top bushing.

[fakiefs180]

I think a harder top bushing makes the truck get easier back to center after you turn. Plus a bit more stability.
The same turning from the stock bottom bushing, but less squirrely due to the harder top bushing.

Hope that makes sense.

[LebowskisRug]

DLX makes bushings that fit Indy up to 100A. Getting Ace’s will only make your looseness problem worse.

[FrozenIndustries]

Anyone know if Indy Stage 10 & Stage 11 baseplates are the same or not? IIRC when Stage 11 launched all of the upgrades were to the hangars but I am not 100% sure.

[Roger__Kook]

Anyone know if Indy Stage 10 & Stage 11 baseplates are the same or not? IIRC when Stage 11 launched all of the upgrades were to the hangars but I am not 100% sure.

Pretty sure the kingpin angle is different. Stage 10 baseplates are just filled in stage 9s.

[Frank and Fred]

There was a Stage 10 MkII that might be the same as a Stage 11. They also put out the 159 Stage 10s just before Stage 11 came out and they were the same. Confusing as shift.

[LewFarrell]

Following up on the Tensor MagLight baseplate discrepancies - Never got a reply back on IG so I decided to email them. Below is the email thread. Not entirely sure what to make of it, I guess they are putting the wrong baseplate on at the factory regularly? It can't be a mixup at the skateshop.

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LewFarrell <[email protected]>
Aug 12, 2021, 10:07 PM (8 days ago)
to Highline Distribution (Support)

Hey Tensor fam, I have a question about the MagLight trucks and hoping you can clarify.

Some of the baseplates say Magnesium on the bottom and are lighter (weigh around 75g with kingpin) and some don't say Magnesium and weigh around 100g with the kingpin. Both are MagLight trucks.

Are these new vs old models or concurrent different models?

I tried reaching out on Instagram a few times but had no luck in getting a response. Would appreciate your help.

Thank you so much.

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Highline Distribution (Support) <[email protected]>
Aug 13, 2021, 8:16 MST
to Lew

Hi,

If they do not say Mag or Magnesium on them, then they are not mag lights trucks. They are the aluminum alloy trucks.

Let us know if you have any other questions.
Highline Distribution

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LewFarrell <[email protected]>
Fri, Aug 13, 9:01 PM (7 days ago)
to Highline Distribution (Support)

Hi - I think I can clarify further.

As I mentioned in my original email both sets of trucks are indeed labeled MagLight. They are certainly not aluminum alloy trucks.

I'm asking specifically about the "Magnesium" labeling on the bottom of the baseplate. One set of MagLights has this labeling on the baseplate and is about 1/4 (25g) lighter than the baseplate from other set of trucks also labeled MagLight.

I have uploaded pictures of both sets of MagLights to imgur to better illustrate my question.
Baseplate 1: https://imgur.com/gallery/pbUzrMf
Baseplate 2: https://imgur.com/gallery/G9Bll7s

Again my question is - Are these new vs old models or concurrent different models? If old/new, which ones are the current model you are selling?

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LewFarrell <[email protected]>
10:29 AM (1 hour ago)
to Highline Distribution (Support)

Hi - just wanted to follow up on this question.
Thanks for your time

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Highline Distribution (Support) <[email protected]>
Aug 20, 2021, 8:14 MST
to Lew

Hi Lew,

All of our mag light's will have the magnesium stamp on them. From the photo and the weight descriptions, it sounds like it might have been a simple mix up either at the factory or at a skate shop.

We hope that answers your question!

Have a great day!
Highline Distribution

[FrozenIndustries]

There was a Stage 10 MkII that might be the same as a Stage 11. They also put out the 159 Stage 10s just before Stage 11 came out and they were the same. Confusing as shift.

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Anyone know if Indy Stage 10 & Stage 11 baseplates are the same or not? IIRC when Stage 11 launched all of the upgrades were to the hangars but I am not 100% sure.

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Pretty sure the kingpin angle is different. Stage 10 baseplates are just filled in stage 9s.

I see. I just got these and they're 159s. I am going to check the kingpin angle and will report back.

[PuffinMuffin]

it sounds like it might have been a simple mix up either at the factory or at a skate shop.

I know two other people who bought Maglight Atgs and we all have aluminum baseplates. Not to mention all the people here saying they received alloy baseplates too. They must be "mixing stuff up" on a large scale. 

Thank you for posting the emails.

[FatGuy92]

Following up on the Tensor MagLight baseplate discrepancies - Never got a reply back on IG so I decided to email them. Below is the email thread. Not entirely sure what to make of it, I guess they are putting the wrong baseplate on at the factory regularly? It can't be a mixup at the skateshop.

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LewFarrell <[email protected]>
Aug 12, 2021, 10:07 PM (8 days ago)
to Highline Distribution (Support)

Hey Tensor fam, I have a question about the MagLight trucks and hoping you can clarify.

Some of the baseplates say Magnesium on the bottom and are lighter (weigh around 75g with kingpin) and some don't say Magnesium and weigh around 100g with the kingpin. Both are MagLight trucks.

Are these new vs old models or concurrent different models?

I tried reaching out on Instagram a few times but had no luck in getting a response. Would appreciate your help.

Thank you so much.

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Highline Distribution (Support) <[email protected]>
Aug 13, 2021, 8:16 MST
to Lew

Hi,

If they do not say Mag or Magnesium on them, then they are not mag lights trucks. They are the aluminum alloy trucks.

Let us know if you have any other questions.
Highline Distribution

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LewFarrell <[email protected]>
Fri, Aug 13, 9:01 PM (7 days ago)
to Highline Distribution (Support)

Hi - I think I can clarify further.

As I mentioned in my original email both sets of trucks are indeed labeled MagLight. They are certainly not aluminum alloy trucks.

I'm asking specifically about the "Magnesium" labeling on the bottom of the baseplate. One set of MagLights has this labeling on the baseplate and is about 1/4 (25g) lighter than the baseplate from other set of trucks also labeled MagLight.

I have uploaded pictures of both sets of MagLights to imgur to better illustrate my question.
Baseplate 1: https://imgur.com/gallery/pbUzrMf
Baseplate 2: https://imgur.com/gallery/G9Bll7s

Again my question is - Are these new vs old models or concurrent different models? If old/new, which ones are the current model you are selling?

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LewFarrell <[email protected]>
10:29 AM (1 hour ago)
to Highline Distribution (Support)

Hi - just wanted to follow up on this question.
Thanks for your time

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Highline Distribution (Support) <[email protected]>
Aug 20, 2021, 8:14 MST
to Lew

Hi Lew,

All of our mag light's will have the magnesium stamp on them. From the photo and the weight descriptions, it sounds like it might have been a simple mix up either at the factory or at a skate shop.

We hope that answers your question!

Have a great day!
Highline Distribution

I emailed thankyousupply and never got a response. If it’s a factory mistake, they must have fucked up on an entire run of these

[Xen]

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Following up on the Tensor MagLight baseplate discrepancies - Never got a reply back on IG so I decided to email them. Below is the email thread. Not entirely sure what to make of it, I guess they are putting the wrong baseplate on at the factory regularly? It can't be a mixup at the skateshop.

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LewFarrell <lew@lew.com>
Aug 12, 2021, 10:07 PM (8 days ago)
to Highline Distribution (Support)

Hey Tensor fam, I have a question about the MagLight trucks and hoping you can clarify.

Some of the baseplates say Magnesium on the bottom and are lighter (weigh around 75g with kingpin) and some don't say Magnesium and weigh around 100g with the kingpin. Both are MagLight trucks.

Are these new vs old models or concurrent different models?

I tried reaching out on Instagram a few times but had no luck in getting a response. Would appreciate your help.

Thank you so much.

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Highline Distribution (Support) <[email protected]>
Aug 13, 2021, 8:16 MST
to Lew

Hi,

If they do not say Mag or Magnesium on them, then they are not mag lights trucks. They are the aluminum alloy trucks.

Let us know if you have any other questions.
Highline Distribution

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LewFarrell <lew@lew.com>
Fri, Aug 13, 9:01 PM (7 days ago)
to Highline Distribution (Support)

Hi - I think I can clarify further.

As I mentioned in my original email both sets of trucks are indeed labeled MagLight. They are certainly not aluminum alloy trucks.

I'm asking specifically about the "Magnesium" labeling on the bottom of the baseplate. One set of MagLights has this labeling on the baseplate and is about 1/4 (25g) lighter than the baseplate from other set of trucks also labeled MagLight.

I have uploaded pictures of both sets of MagLights to imgur to better illustrate my question.
Baseplate 1: https://imgur.com/gallery/pbUzrMf
Baseplate 2: https://imgur.com/gallery/G9Bll7s

Again my question is - Are these new vs old models or concurrent different models? If old/new, which ones are the current model you are selling?

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LewFarrell <lew@lew.com>
10:29 AM (1 hour ago)
to Highline Distribution (Support)

Hi - just wanted to follow up on this question.
Thanks for your time

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Highline Distribution (Support) <[email protected]>
Aug 20, 2021, 8:14 MST
to Lew

Hi Lew,

All of our mag light's will have the magnesium stamp on them. From the photo and the weight descriptions, it sounds like it might have been a simple mix up either at the factory or at a skate shop.

We hope that answers your question!

Have a great day!
Highline Distribution

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I emailed thankyousupply and never got a response. If it’s a factory mistake, they must have fucked up on an entire run of these

Somebody definitely fucked up! The only common denominator I can find is the fluorescent colorways are all fucked, so likely anything from that drop (which doesn't help as they have the standard 'grey/raw' that are also fucked from that run.

Easy to check in shop but harder online unless you use reputable places that will actually check/and or let you return.

What's lame is he didn't even offer replacements or compensation for something you paid for and didn't get? That's a bit fucked up :\

[FatGuy92]

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Following up on the Tensor MagLight baseplate discrepancies - Never got a reply back on IG so I decided to email them. Below is the email thread. Not entirely sure what to make of it, I guess they are putting the wrong baseplate on at the factory regularly? It can't be a mixup at the skateshop.

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LewFarrell <lew@lew.com>
Aug 12, 2021, 10:07 PM (8 days ago)
to Highline Distribution (Support)

Hey Tensor fam, I have a question about the MagLight trucks and hoping you can clarify.

Some of the baseplates say Magnesium on the bottom and are lighter (weigh around 75g with kingpin) and some don't say Magnesium and weigh around 100g with the kingpin. Both are MagLight trucks.

Are these new vs old models or concurrent different models?

I tried reaching out on Instagram a few times but had no luck in getting a response. Would appreciate your help.

Thank you so much.

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Highline Distribution (Support) <[email protected]>
Aug 13, 2021, 8:16 MST
to Lew

Hi,

If they do not say Mag or Magnesium on them, then they are not mag lights trucks. They are the aluminum alloy trucks.

Let us know if you have any other questions.
Highline Distribution

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LewFarrell <lew@lew.com>
Fri, Aug 13, 9:01 PM (7 days ago)
to Highline Distribution (Support)

Hi - I think I can clarify further.

As I mentioned in my original email both sets of trucks are indeed labeled MagLight. They are certainly not aluminum alloy trucks.

I'm asking specifically about the "Magnesium" labeling on the bottom of the baseplate. One set of MagLights has this labeling on the baseplate and is about 1/4 (25g) lighter than the baseplate from other set of trucks also labeled MagLight.

I have uploaded pictures of both sets of MagLights to imgur to better illustrate my question.
Baseplate 1: https://imgur.com/gallery/pbUzrMf
Baseplate 2: https://imgur.com/gallery/G9Bll7s

Again my question is - Are these new vs old models or concurrent different models? If old/new, which ones are the current model you are selling?

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LewFarrell <lew@lew.com>
10:29 AM (1 hour ago)
to Highline Distribution (Support)

Hi - just wanted to follow up on this question.
Thanks for your time

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Highline Distribution (Support) <[email protected]>
Aug 20, 2021, 8:14 MST
to Lew

Hi Lew,

All of our mag light's will have the magnesium stamp on them. From the photo and the weight descriptions, it sounds like it might have been a simple mix up either at the factory or at a skate shop.

We hope that answers your question!

Have a great day!
Highline Distribution

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I emailed thankyousupply and never got a response. If it’s a factory mistake, they must have fucked up on an entire run of these

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Somebody definitely fucked up! The only common denominator I can find is the fluorescent colorways are all fucked, so likely anything from that drop (which doesn't help as they have the standard 'grey/raw' that are also fucked from that run.

Easy to check in shop but harder online unless you use reputable places that will actually check/and or let you return.

What's lame is he didn't even offer replacements or compensation for something you paid for and didn't get? That's a bit fucked up :\

It's very disappointing. I get that they're super light and grind buttery but for the price you pay for these things, it's not acceptable for them to not at least offer a return or replacement baseplate. I switched back to thunders and Indys on my setups out of principle. I've emailed both DLX and NHS about product issues and received prompt replies offering replacements. Smh

[RichardBarkley]

Does anyone know what stage indys these are? Thinking of taking off the zipzinger wheels, adding f4s and making it a curb killer

[Boog]

Does anyone know what stage indys these are? Thinking of taking off the zipzinger wheels, adding f4s and making it a curb killer

Look like some old stage 11

[LewFarrell]

I followed up with Tensor (Thank You... Highline...?) after their last answer asking them to look into it further as it seems to be a pretty widespread thing and not a one-off situation. This is this response I got. Will post up again when I hear back.

Also strangely enough I randomly came across a guy on Facebook post his MagLights this morning which are also labeled MagLight with no Magnesium stamping on the baseplate. He got them directly from Thank You Supply. Here's a gallery on Imgur: http://imgur.com/gallery/8gyn2Ef

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Highline Distribution (Support) <[email protected])
Aug 20, 2021, 13:46 MST
to Lew

Hey Lew,

Thanks for bring that to our attention. We are separate from the production and design team, so we have reached out to them to provide you with a more specific answer. They will be returning on Monday and will get back to us asap. Once we get a response from them, we will forward it to you.

Let us know if you have any other questions in the meantime.
Highline Distribution

[sketchyrider]

anyone ever size down on trucks and find that they sat on ledges/coping better? or is it pretty accepted that larger trucks = more stable, period? having trouble on backside crooks / 5050s. its probably all technique related, but just curious to hear opinions. i like an 8.6 deck so its either hot rod or magic carpet a little.

[manysnakes]

anyone ever size down on trucks and find that they sat on ledges/coping better? or is it pretty accepted that larger trucks = more stable, period? having trouble on backside crooks / 5050s. its probably all technique related, but just curious to hear opinions. i like an 8.6 deck so its either hot rod or magic carpet a little.

I like a narrower truck for coping. I find it much easier to get locked in on top with my 144s than I ever did when I was still trying to make 159s work for me.

[switchfrontshuv]

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anyone ever size down on trucks and find that they sat on ledges/coping better? or is it pretty accepted that larger trucks = more stable, period? having trouble on backside crooks / 5050s. its probably all technique related, but just curious to hear opinions. i like an 8.6 deck so its either hot rod or magic carpet a little.

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I like a narrower truck for coping. I find it much easier to get locked in on top with my 144s than I ever did when I was still trying to make 159s work for me.

It really depends (in my experience) what trick you're doing and what you're doing it on. For example it was pretty doable for me to lock into a bs 180 nosegrind for the first time with wide trucks since they kinda let me get more clearance to land on any part of the truck and pinch it via weight distribution to my heel. With something like a 5050 though I feel that it really does make my board feel more clunky and strangely hard to pop up bigger ledges along with the amount of grind space causing me to slip out of a proper lock in occasionally. For crooks I really dont find a difference in popping out or holding the grind other than it's simply harder to lock in on a smaller truck for me (really gotta aim that ledge-facing half of the truck onto the edge of the ledge)

I love the feel of a nice long bs or fs 5050 on a tall ledge with 139 Indys on 8.1-8.25 deck. Idk must be the soft metal and the pinching side of the truck being closer to the centre of the board that just lets me lock in and sit on it really well (cant say the same about crooks at all)

ALSO a tip for bs 5050: when you pop onto the ledge and kinda shifty to be parallel to the coping, aim the middle of your trucks to the ledge but keep weight on your toes so even if you land fucked you can still hold the grind. Gambling on over-popping onto the ledge can be deadly on the wrong hubbas

[topfrog10]

I have been skating venture hollow 5.8s for like... 8 months now and after liking them a lot more than my Indy hollow 149s at first in terms of stability, i am starting to feel meh about them after skating a lot of rougher curbs because im starting to feel like they're grinding worse even though im getting better at grinding overall. i mainly skate mini ramps, bowls, and curbs... i felt like the hollows were nice because of how light they were but that is also because my pop isnt very high. are these ventures not the way to go at this point? 

[munchbox]

I have been skating venture hollow 5.8s for like... 8 months now and after liking them a lot more than my Indy hollow 149s at first in terms of stability, i am starting to feel meh about them after skating a lot of rougher curbs because im starting to feel like they're grinding worse even though im getting better at grinding overall. i mainly skate mini ramps, bowls, and curbs... i felt like the hollows were nice because of how light they were but that is also because my pop isnt very high. are these ventures not the way to go at this point?

use the added stability to go faster

[j....soy.....]

I got 5.6's coming from thunder 148's....they don't grind as well....The turn is clunkier....what makes up for it is I can afford to skate them looser with no wheelbite which is fun.

The pivot cups seem shittier than most trucks so I'm putting in an old set of riptides, ,think it'll work well.

Skating regular I don't notice the pop so much but nollie and switch I see some difference for sure. 

[FrozenIndustries]

Anybody ever have the JB Weld and nut fall clean out before?



I was swapping stuff out and this happened. My punishment and comeuppance for declaring that I like one brand of truck that I skate more than the other? It fits snug in the hole so it is still usable, but I was surprised by it.

[PuffinMuffin]

Anybody ever have the JB Weld and nut fall clean out before?



I was swapping stuff out and this happened. My punishment and comeuppance for declaring that I like one brand of truck that I skate more than the other? It fits snug in the hole so it is still usable, but I was surprised by it.

I had the same thing happen. I didn’t properly prep the surface before epoxying. Acetone is good to clean the oils and grease off, also roughing the area up a bit helps. Evidently even residue left by your fingers is enough to significantly weaken the bond.

[mynameisnotjeff]

Can’t seem to find it but someone posted a link to Venom street bushings a few pages back.
Has anyone tried these and what are your thoughts?

[FrozenIndustries]

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Anybody ever have the JB Weld and nut fall clean out before?



I was swapping stuff out and this happened. My punishment and comeuppance for declaring that I like one brand of truck that I skate more than the other? It fits snug in the hole so it is still usable, but I was surprised by it.

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I had the same thing happen. I didn’t properly prep the surface before epoxying. Acetone is good to clean the oils and grease off, also roughing the area up a bit helps. Evidently even residue left by your fingers is enough to significantly weaken the bond.

Yeah, seeing how smooth the cone is it occurred to me that I should have hit it with a file.

[Mbrimson88]

Can’t seem to find it but someone posted a link to Venom street bushings a few pages back.
Has anyone tried these and what are your thoughts?

http://venomskate.com/street-bushings/

Was it in the bushings thread?

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=112631.0


I don't recall riding any, but others have said they are good. 

One thing for sure is a company that makes bushings as a main item, rather than a company that just has generic bushings as part of their overall company profile, would not be able to remain in business if they didn't make a good product.

They might be expensive, but from looking at that site, you definitely have options.

[mynameisnotjeff]

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Can’t seem to find it but someone posted a link to Venom street bushings a few pages back.
Has anyone tried these and what are your thoughts?

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http://venomskate.com/street-bushings/

Was it in the bushings thread?

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=112631.0


I don't recall riding any, but others have said they are good. 

One thing for sure is a company that makes bushings as a main item, rather than a company that just has generic bushings as part of their overall company profile, would not be able to remain in business if they didn't make a good product.

They might be expensive, but from looking at that site, you definitely have options.

Went on a limb and ordered the SHR and HPF bushings.
SHR I’m the 91a and HPF in the 90a.

I’ll see how they handle.

[Kevve]

Going to try some Bones bushings, my Stock indys at 90a is really loose for me at 82kg/180. Should i go for the hard ones? Also do you prefer flat or cupped washers for a nice surfy turn?

[Mbrimson88]

Going to try some Bones bushings, my Stock indys at 90a is really loose for me at 82kg/180. Should i go for the hard ones? Also do you prefer flat or cupped washers for a nice surfy turn?

I might be the last person to say anything good about Bones bushings (far too many split and come apart far too quickly for what should be one of the best quality and higher priced sets of bushings on the market), but the hard ones definitely soften up a lot and are the least likely to split, when compared to the medium or soft options.

Start with what you have already for washers, or if the trucks feel too tight, just run the metal flat one that comes with the Bones bushings to start with and add the others as needed, but I have both top and bottom normal Indy washers on a broken in set of Bones hard on a board I set up just so people can try it out.

You can play mix and match with the flat two and the stock four washers in whatever combo works for you too, which makes things more versatile.