Truck set-ups

[LebowskisRug]

Venture Hi's never hang up or give me issues, I find then to be the best all around stock truck. They never need different bushings or the kingpin messed with in my experiences. They also turn just fine once you break the bushings in just like any other truck, Didn't really experience the whole "ventures don't turn" thing. Thunders and Ace are also good, They could have better clearance but its whatever. The grind and turn on indys is too inconsistent these days unfortunately, some pairs skate great and some feel like cheap off brand complete trucks. Film remind me a lot of ace with how turny they are, but they are very high with better clearance then ace which is nice. Film also makes an IKP truck which is worth checking out. That being said the only trucks I continuously buy these days are ventures, and sometimes thunders when i want easier grinds. Ace is just a cruiser/slappy thing for me these days, not something i'd ride on my main setup anymore.

Hard disagree on Venture which is why 90% of Venture riders on this board I know in real life run different bushings and top washer. And I don't know anyone that has an issue with a non IKP Indy in the past 4 years. I was talking with a shop owner last week and he said they can't get Ventures off the shelves and have had tons come back with crumbling bushings, bent top washer, bent axles, and generally unhappy customers. Haven't had a single issue with Chinese Indy's. This shop is fairly high volume, has been around forever, and doesn't have any sort of DLX or NHS allegiance.

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Venture Hi's never hang up or give me issues, I find then to be the best all around stock truck. They never need different bushings or the kingpin messed with in my experiences. They also turn just fine once you break the bushings in just like any other truck, Didn't really experience the whole "ventures don't turn" thing. Thunders and Ace are also good, They could have better clearance but its whatever. The grind and turn on indys is too inconsistent these days unfortunately, some pairs skate great and some feel like cheap off brand complete trucks. Film remind me a lot of ace with how turny they are, but they are very high with better clearance then ace which is nice. Film also makes an IKP truck which is worth checking out. That being said the only trucks I continuously buy these days are ventures, and sometimes thunders when i want easier grinds. Ace is just a cruiser/slappy thing for me these days, not something i'd ride on my main setup anymore.

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Hard disagree on Venture which is why 90% of Venture riders on this board I know in real life run different bushings and top washer. And I don't know anyone that has an issue with a non IKP Indy in the past 4 years. I was talking with a shop owner last week and he said they can't get Ventures off the shelves and have had tons come back with crumbling bushings, bent top washer, bent axles, and generally unhappy customers. Haven't had a single issue with Chinese Indy's. This shop is fairly high volume, has been around forever, and doesn't have any sort of DLX or NHS allegiance.

I’m having a hard time trying to figure out if you like Ventures or Indys…

[LebowskisRug]

I like and dislike things about both. I'm on Indy's because I do like them and I got sick of going back and forth and I want to ride a pair of trucks to the axle. Trust me there's lots of things I miss about Ventures. Overall tho I give a slight edge to Indy's for me because they tend to feel better on more of the shapes I like to skate whereas Ventures on a few select shapes are like a cheat code for specific tricks.

I'm more against saying trucks are either good or bad. They all index in certain respects and you just have to acknowledge and not make it a contest.

[BartHarleyJarvis]

I like and dislike things about both. I'm on Indy's because I do like them and I got sick of going back and forth and I want to ride a pair of trucks to the axle. Trust me there's lots of things I miss about Ventures. Overall tho I give a slight edge to Indy's for me because they tend to feel better on more of the shapes I like to skate whereas Ventures on a few select shapes are like a cheat code for specific tricks.

I'm more against saying trucks are either good or bad. They all index in certain respects and you just have to acknowledge and not make it a contest.

I’m nice and deep into the front and rear axles on my Indy’s and now my goal is to crack the hanger

[Xen]

I watched the Gifted Hater truck vid with Ben Degros, and they both seem to not be a fan of the indy forged baseplate.
Anyone else share the same view, and can go deeper into why?

Lighter (hollows) and lower than Standard Cast plate indies.

I like Indys, they're the best all purpose truck you can ride across any terrain without running into issues; the jack of all trades master of none scenario....Indys (with bones for me) and 99a spits have you covered across anything you might want to skate....that's why I dig the royals so much, they do everything indy (and thunder) do, with none of the drawbacks of either.

If ACE could just get their QC under...erm...control and get those hollows out...

[LebowskisRug]

I think it's not that Ben and GH dislike the plates it's that they don't improve the truck they like and alter the feel of said truck.

I've skated every Indy and liked the forged plates for a while, but they do change the pop feel to be closer to a Thunder sorta and don't really lighten shit up quite as much as people would think. Also they can sound a bit weird/tinny and Ben seems to use that adjective a lot with trucks he doesn't like. I have noticed that very few pros ride them for whatever reason and the ones that do are usually tech dudes that now ride the Mids.

[Xen]

Tinny for sure, moreso with thunders.

I’ve noticed most pros on cast too, but hey, they skate what’s free in the box.

[switchfrontshuv]

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Venture Hi's never hang up or give me issues, I find then to be the best all around stock truck. They never need different bushings or the kingpin messed with in my experiences. They also turn just fine once you break the bushings in just like any other truck, Didn't really experience the whole "ventures don't turn" thing. Thunders and Ace are also good, They could have better clearance but its whatever. The grind and turn on indys is too inconsistent these days unfortunately, some pairs skate great and some feel like cheap off brand complete trucks. Film remind me a lot of ace with how turny they are, but they are very high with better clearance then ace which is nice. Film also makes an IKP truck which is worth checking out. That being said the only trucks I continuously buy these days are ventures, and sometimes thunders when i want easier grinds. Ace is just a cruiser/slappy thing for me these days, not something i'd ride on my main setup anymore.

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I feel like Venture stock definitely is as you say but looser (softer/lower bushings) they feel really good, almost surfy and laggy to where they feel nice to throw around for tricks and feel more comfortable for certain tricks like nollie/switch shuvs (for me). Sometimes (especially on short/short wheelbase decks) they feel too unstable and strange, almost awkward given im a bit taller and used to 14.25WB)

Either way I think the fact that the difference in pinch and grind is so available (look at Jacopo doing wild shit on aces and mellow baker boards) makes ventures a second choice for me after trying them. From my truck escapades I think thunder Hi 149 + 1/8 risers works best on 8.25 and bigger decks, because I get a similar pinch compared to venture hi (grind is definitely worse) and a deeper, extremely responsive turn, while still being tall (for big wheels) and lighter-feeling pop

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I ride 1/8" riser as well with 60mm or 58mm wheels on my thunders and ventures. See I feel like ventures/thunders can make any board under 14.25 feel more stable and rideable as 14.25 is also the smallest wheelbase I'll skate as well. I had a 13.9 with aces before and that was hands down the worst feeling board I've ever owned, Threw the thunders on it and it actually felt like my skateboard and I could actually pop it. I don't know though it's all personal preference and a different tools for different jobs thing. I only skate street and I also like long feeling decks. I used to do 15+" with aces or indy for a while. Anything smaller than 14.25 always spins too fast for me and I really have to put too much thought into finessing tricks I already have muscle memory for.

makes sense. wtf you doing with 58-60mm wheels on thunders and street tho? my cap atm is 56 cant do shit after that

[Mbrimson88]

Browsing ebay and came across this set of modified Indy trucks that definitely deserve a mention here.

Could even be someone from Slap, but I have never seen this much "action" happen to any before.  Reminds me of some Grind King trucks I have sitting around, the minimal front part and inverted kingpin mainly.

Some other interesting things in their listings too.


Australian ebay link:  https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/175321627652

US / global ebay link:   https://www.ebay.com/itm/175321627652

[cosmicgypsies]

Browsing ebay and came across this set of modified Indy trucks that definitely deserve a mention here.

Could even be someone from Slap, but I have never seen this much "action" happen to any before.  Reminds me of some Grind King trucks I have sitting around, the minimal front part and inverted kingpin mainly.

Some other interesting things in their listings too.


Australian ebay link:  https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/175321627652

US / global ebay link:   https://www.ebay.com/itm/175321627652

what purpose does removing the corners serve? less material = less resistance = better slide?

[Mbrimson88]

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Browsing ebay and came across this set of modified Indy trucks that definitely deserve a mention here.

Could even be someone from Slap, but I have never seen this much "action" happen to any before.  Reminds me of some Grind King trucks I have sitting around, the minimal front part and inverted kingpin mainly.

Some other interesting things in their listings too.


Australian ebay link:  https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/175321627652

US / global ebay link:   https://www.ebay.com/itm/175321627652

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what purpose does removing the corners serve? less material = less resistance = better slide?

I think that was the idea with Grind King and Destructo "Rail Killers" and some other brands as well, but it seemed more of a gimmick than serving any real purpose in helping with nose / tail slides.

Maybe somebody got Indy and wanted Grind King.  They look pretty similar now.

[tonitonne]

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Venture Hi's never hang up or give me issues, I find then to be the best all around stock truck. They never need different bushings or the kingpin messed with in my experiences. They also turn just fine once you break the bushings in just like any other truck, Didn't really experience the whole "ventures don't turn" thing. Thunders and Ace are also good, They could have better clearance but its whatever. The grind and turn on indys is too inconsistent these days unfortunately, some pairs skate great and some feel like cheap off brand complete trucks. Film remind me a lot of ace with how turny they are, but they are very high with better clearance then ace which is nice. Film also makes an IKP truck which is worth checking out. That being said the only trucks I continuously buy these days are ventures, and sometimes thunders when i want easier grinds. Ace is just a cruiser/slappy thing for me these days, not something i'd ride on my main setup anymore.

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I feel like Venture stock definitely is as you say but looser (softer/lower bushings) they feel really good, almost surfy and laggy to where they feel nice to throw around for tricks and feel more comfortable for certain tricks like nollie/switch shuvs (for me). Sometimes (especially on short/short wheelbase decks) they feel too unstable and strange, almost awkward given im a bit taller and used to 14.25WB)

Either way I think the fact that the difference in pinch and grind is so available (look at Jacopo doing wild shit on aces and mellow baker boards) makes ventures a second choice for me after trying them. From my truck escapades I think thunder Hi 149 + 1/8 risers works best on 8.25 and bigger decks, because I get a similar pinch compared to venture hi (grind is definitely worse) and a deeper, extremely responsive turn, while still being tall (for big wheels) and lighter-feeling pop

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I ride 1/8" riser as well with 60mm or 58mm wheels on my thunders and ventures. See I feel like ventures/thunders can make any board under 14.25 feel more stable and rideable as 14.25 is also the smallest wheelbase I'll skate as well. I had a 13.9 with aces before and that was hands down the worst feeling board I've ever owned, Threw the thunders on it and it actually felt like my skateboard and I could actually pop it. I don't know though it's all personal preference and a different tools for different jobs thing. I only skate street and I also like long feeling decks. I used to do 15+" with aces or indy for a while. Anything smaller than 14.25 always spins too fast for me and I really have to put too much thought into finessing tricks I already have muscle memory for.

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makes sense. wtf you doing with 58-60mm wheels on thunders and street tho? my cap atm is 56 cant do shit after that

Skating on the east coast, anything smaller than 56mm is impractical for skating around the city. I'm not crazy tech either just a proper popped switch/reg basics kind of person. And to the dude who asked if big wheels mess with grinds, for me no, not really a difference between a 50 50 on a rail with 54s then it is 60s. Sometimes i catch wheel on ventures on nose/tail slides but i just push through it, no different than doing them on thunders. Plus ventures and thunders are light so the heavier wheels balance everything out. Also probably worth noting I only skate conicals and OG classics.

[tonitonne]

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Venture Hi's never hang up or give me issues, I find then to be the best all around stock truck. They never need different bushings or the kingpin messed with in my experiences. They also turn just fine once you break the bushings in just like any other truck, Didn't really experience the whole "ventures don't turn" thing. Thunders and Ace are also good, They could have better clearance but its whatever. The grind and turn on indys is too inconsistent these days unfortunately, some pairs skate great and some feel like cheap off brand complete trucks. Film remind me a lot of ace with how turny they are, but they are very high with better clearance then ace which is nice. Film also makes an IKP truck which is worth checking out. That being said the only trucks I continuously buy these days are ventures, and sometimes thunders when i want easier grinds. Ace is just a cruiser/slappy thing for me these days, not something i'd ride on my main setup anymore.

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Hard disagree on Venture which is why 90% of Venture riders on this board I know in real life run different bushings and top washer. And I don't know anyone that has an issue with a non IKP Indy in the past 4 years. I was talking with a shop owner last week and he said they can't get Ventures off the shelves and have had tons come back with crumbling bushings, bent top washer, bent axles, and generally unhappy customers. Haven't had a single issue with Chinese Indy's. This shop is fairly high volume, has been around forever, and doesn't have any sort of DLX or NHS allegiance.

That's wild my shops highest sellers are thunder and venture. But all bushings crumble man, Ever skate any stock indy, ace, or thunder bushings for more than 6-8 months? Bent axles I have no excuse for but I'm not a big guy (only ever snapped one deck), so I've never had that happen in my life with any truck. The only trucks i've really ever ran into issues with is some pairs of newer independents. They aren't bad trucks, but the quality certainly has became way more unpredictable.

[j....soy.....]

380 pages of a truck thread and we give a shit about shops?  All the answers are here! 

[LewFarrell]

These guys randomly followed me on Instagram. Wild looking tucks, like someone made them on Dall.e. The hanger is half Indy half Tensor, the baseplate is grindking-esque with a built in bushing cup and bones??? Not sure what to make of it, I wonder if anyone has seen this design before as maybe it's like just a generic cheap Alibaba truck.

[IpathCats]

These guys randomly followed me on Instagram. Wild looking tucks, like someone made them on Dall.e. The hanger is half Indy half Tensor, the baseplate is grindking-esque with a built in bushing cup and bones??? Not sure what to make of it, I wonder if anyone has seen this design before as maybe it's like just a generic cheap Alibaba truck.

Whatever they are, they need to stop.

[TwisT]

thundependent

[Vintagebody]

Looks like Thunder is really testing IKP. Ben Degros is shredding some?

[LebowskisRug]

Which trucks work best with mellow decks and steep decks?

[DarkPools]

Which trucks work best with mellow decks and steep decks?

If this is in reference to the kicks, I read/understood this:

Mellow = taller trucks. Indy, Venture Hi, maybe Ace

Steep = lower trucks. Thunder, Royals, Venture Lo, Ace Lo

Let's add in the space (fingers of flat) between the kick and the bolta and then more madness comes in to find the sweet spot. I'm not sure if shorter or longer WB are better for mellow or steeper kicks.

[Mbrimson88]

Looks like Thunder is really testing IKP. Ben Degros is shredding some?

Nice find.

I guess it is not so much a secret as others have been seen with them, but here is a screen shot, looking pretty normal really.

[hobochimp]

I know I’ve seen/heard rumors of an Indy stage 12. Not sure if I believe it’s happening any time so yet, but I do have one interesting thing I’ve noticed. I don’t know his last name, Terrill J. Who skates Indy and Nike sb flow and I think FA/Hockey flow too has been skating some mysterious trucks on his stories recently. I’ve noticed them on and off and since he’s skated these mystery trucks He’s been on Indy trips so he’s still definitely on Indy. I’ll attach some screenshots and his Instagram. He doesn’t have any hard posts of him with the trucks. Just something I found interesting. Been following him for a little bit. Dude seems like he’s got a good future in skating.

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I know I’ve seen/heard rumors of an Indy stage 12. Not sure if I believe it’s happening any time so yet, but I do have one interesting thing I’ve noticed. I don’t know his last name, Terrill J. Who skates Indy and Nike sb flow and I think FA/Hockey flow too has been skating some mysterious trucks on his stories recently. I’ve noticed them on and off and since he’s skated these mystery trucks He’s been on Indy trips so he’s still definitely on Indy. I’ll attach some screenshots and his Instagram. He doesn’t have any hard posts of him with the trucks. Just something I found interesting. Been following him for a little bit. Dude seems like he’s got a good future in skating.

That person does rip.
The screenshots look like a cutdown 215. Which would be sick.

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I know I’ve seen/heard rumors of an Indy stage 12. Not sure if I believe it’s happening any time so yet, but I do have one interesting thing I’ve noticed. I don’t know his last name, Terrill J. Who skates Indy and Nike sb flow and I think FA/Hockey flow too has been skating some mysterious trucks on his stories recently. I’ve noticed them on and off and since he’s skated these mystery trucks He’s been on Indy trips so he’s still definitely on Indy. I’ll attach some screenshots and his Instagram. He doesn’t have any hard posts of him with the trucks. Just something I found interesting. Been following him for a little bit. Dude seems like he’s got a good future in skating.

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That person does rip.
The screenshots look like a cutdown 215. Which would be sick.

Clips kinda look like an older stage?

Pics def have a 215 look to them. It's odd Indy doesn't use the 101 or 215 hanger shape for regs...unless they just don't hold up to the rigors of today's street skating? All they need to do is trim that yoke down to be competitive on weight.

[Mbrimson88]

Without seeing the updated replies, I was going to say the same thing.

Looks like a 215 in the build in a normal size truck width, in much the same way as some others had cut down 215s to smaller sizes, so I think if anything that might be the next stage if they did one, all in that shape.

Screenshot super close up might be a bit redundant now, but here it is anyway.






I would also refer to two pages in this thread, 89 and 335 with info and pics on 215s cut down, the video especially.  Some of you were there as well in the first round of fun on page 89.


https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=88869.msg2685431#msg2685431

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=88869.msg3535659#msg3535659

[IpathCats]

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Looks like Thunder is really testing IKP. Ben Degros is shredding some?

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Nice find.

I guess it is not so much a secret as others have been seen with them, but here is a screen shot, looking pretty normal really.

Why not just add some baseplate too and fix both of the major issues with thunders in one go? 1/8"-1/4" extra baseplate would make a world of difference. I'm slowly getting used to it on my thunders, really enjoying them otherwise. but it just seems unnecessary, serves no purpose having it so short. Is there a benefit to the short baseplate that im missing?

[Paperclip20]

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Looks like Thunder is really testing IKP. Ben Degros is shredding some?

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Nice find.

I guess it is not so much a secret as others have been seen with them, but here is a screen shot, looking pretty normal really.

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Why not just add some baseplate too and fix both of the major issues with thunders in one go? 1/8"-1/4" extra baseplate would make a world of difference. I'm slowly getting used to it on my thunders, really enjoying them otherwise. but it just seems unnecessary, serves no purpose having it so short. Is there a benefit to the short baseplate that im missing?

Probably weight savings and also the baseplate really doesn't make a difference unless you're skating a perfect ledge. Even then a bit of wax on the side clears that up.

[BartHarleyJarvis]

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Looks like Thunder is really testing IKP. Ben Degros is shredding some?

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Nice find.

I guess it is not so much a secret as others have been seen with them, but here is a screen shot, looking pretty normal really.

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Why not just add some baseplate too and fix both of the major issues with thunders in one go? 1/8"-1/4" extra baseplate would make a world of difference. I'm slowly getting used to it on my thunders, really enjoying them otherwise. but it just seems unnecessary, serves no purpose having it so short. Is there a benefit to the short baseplate that im missing?

I would argue some people don't think it needs to be "fixed", some people prefer to slide against the wheels on thunders as opposed to against the baseplate on other trucks. Might give them more control like a powerslide. i can't relate because I suck and can't slide very well on anything, but having recently switched to thunders there was a bit of a learning curve but now i'm pretty used to it. Changing hardware can be annoying though.

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I know I’ve seen/heard rumors of an Indy stage 12. Not sure if I believe it’s happening any time so yet, but I do have one interesting thing I’ve noticed. I don’t know his last name, Terrill J. Who skates Indy and Nike sb flow and I think FA/Hockey flow too has been skating some mysterious trucks on his stories recently. I’ve noticed them on and off and since he’s skated these mystery trucks He’s been on Indy trips so he’s still definitely on Indy. I’ll attach some screenshots and his Instagram. He doesn’t have any hard posts of him with the trucks. Just something I found interesting. Been following him for a little bit. Dude seems like he’s got a good future in skating.

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That person does rip.
The screenshots look like a cutdown 215. Which would be sick.

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Clips kinda look like an older stage?

Pics def have a 215 look to them. It's odd Indy doesn't use the 101 or 215 hanger shape for regs...unless they just don't hold up to the rigors of today's street skating? All they need to do is trim that yoke down to be competitive on weight.

I said fuck it and sent a DM. I’ll let you guys know if he responds.

[hobochimp]

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I know I’ve seen/heard rumors of an Indy stage 12. Not sure if I believe it’s happening any time so yet, but I do have one interesting thing I’ve noticed. I don’t know his last name, Terrill J. Who skates Indy and Nike sb flow and I think FA/Hockey flow too has been skating some mysterious trucks on his stories recently. I’ve noticed them on and off and since he’s skated these mystery trucks He’s been on Indy trips so he’s still definitely on Indy. I’ll attach some screenshots and his Instagram. He doesn’t have any hard posts of him with the trucks. Just something I found interesting. Been following him for a little bit. Dude seems like he’s got a good future in skating.

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That person does rip.
The screenshots look like a cutdown 215. Which would be sick.

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Clips kinda look like an older stage?

Pics def have a 215 look to them. It's odd Indy doesn't use the 101 or 215 hanger shape for regs...unless they just don't hold up to the rigors of today's street skating? All they need to do is trim that yoke down to be competitive on weight.

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I said fuck it and sent a DM. I’ll let you guys know if he responds.

Same here. Been a few days