Truck set-ups

[TimmyB88]

Has anyone had any luck going from 149 to 147s and maintaining their 50 50s on tranny? Ledges are fine on smaller trucks but I blow 50 50s and pivot fakies on smaller trucks.

Go back up to the adult sized trucks. Better yet go 159ers! 

[moonordie]

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Has anyone had any luck going from 149 to 147s and maintaining their 50 50s on tranny? Ledges are fine on smaller trucks but I blow 50 50s and pivot fakies on smaller trucks.

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Go back up to the adult sized trucks. Better yet go 159ers! 

Or get into the happy medium that 148s are.

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Has anyone had any luck going from 149 to 147s and maintaining their 50 50s on tranny? Ledges are fine on smaller trucks but I blow 50 50s and pivot fakies on smaller trucks.

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Go back up to the adult sized trucks. Better yet go 159ers! 

Inarguably the GREATEST skater of our times, Ishod, skates 147s.





I’ve been having the most fun on ace 44c/55c, abs 5.8s, but yeah

[slutbang666]

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Has anyone had any luck going from 149 to 147s and maintaining their 50 50s on tranny? Ledges are fine on smaller trucks but I blow 50 50s and pivot fakies on smaller trucks.

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Go back up to the adult sized trucks. Better yet go 159ers! 

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Or get into the happy medium that 148s are.

I’ve rode 144 independents and 148 thunders still threw me off. It’s Probably more of a mental thing.

[OldCandy]

standard thunders 8.0 + 1/8 hard plastic risers - 1/3 of the kingpin nut thread showing

turns like shit but If i go any looser it starts getting daewonny

grinds and pops like a dream (14.5wb) at least on perfect park ledges, i lost my slappys, they don't climb anymore

[Mbrimson88]

Has anyone had any luck going from 149 to 147s and maintaining their 50 50s on tranny? Ledges are fine on smaller trucks but I blow 50 50s and pivot fakies on smaller trucks.

Muscle memory is not something to doubt.

If you are so used to a certain width truck, it is often weird to change, even a little bit.

Ishod runs 147s with 3 washers on the inside of each wheel, which makes them pretty much 148s anyway.

You could do the same which will bring the wheels out another couple of mm on each side and make them a bit more like wider trucks, but there are still going to be differences.

What size deck do you ride them on?

[logjammin]

IKP turned out to be a success! Did a low top Ace bushing for more clearance. Hi bottom to maintain geo with a flat washer. I still scraped on the edge of it a couple times being at a sharp angle on this steep/mini almost jersey barrier-esque obstacle at my local, but I suppose no IKP will be immune to gettin touched. Thanks to everyone who responded! Shalom

Oh, and Ace risers have a perfect cutout in the "C" part so the IKP doesn't poke into the riser or deck

[Paperclip20]

IKP turned out to be a success! Did a low top Ace bushing for more clearance. Hi bottom to maintain geo with a flat washer. I still scraped on the edge of it a couple times being at a sharp angle on this steep/mini almost jersey barrier-esque obstacle at my local, but I suppose no IKP will be immune to gettin touched. Thanks to everyone who responded! Shalom

Oh, and Ace risers have a perfect cutout in the "C" part so the IKP doesn't poke into the riser or deck

That looks so clean! Happy it worked out for you

[FrozenIndustries]

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IKP turned out to be a success! Did a low top Ace bushing for more clearance. Hi bottom to maintain geo with a flat washer. I still scraped on the edge of it a couple times being at a sharp angle on this steep/mini almost jersey barrier-esque obstacle at my local, but I suppose no IKP will be immune to gettin touched. Thanks to everyone who responded! Shalom

Oh, and Ace risers have a perfect cutout in the "C" part so the IKP doesn't poke into the riser or deck

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That looks so clean! Happy it worked out for you

Yeah, this looks great. Enjoy!

[Crabby_Bastard]

Has anyone had any luck going from 149 to 147s and maintaining their 50 50s on tranny? Ledges are fine on smaller trucks but I blow 50 50s and pivot fakies on smaller trucks.

Yes, I have and I much preferred the 147s to the 149s. I ran 2 washers on the inside of the wheels with the 147s and rode them with 8.1"-8.25" decks. But once 148s came out I switched to those because they are a little taller and I get less wheel bite. I still have a few sets of 147s and I will set them up from time to time and they always feel great except for fakie tricks on flat. Always bad wheel bite.

I skate a lot of transition and grinds of any kind just lock in better for me on 147s.

[manysnakes]

IKP turned out to be a success! Did a low top Ace bushing for more clearance. Hi bottom to maintain geo with a flat washer. I still scraped on the edge of it a couple times being at a sharp angle on this steep/mini almost jersey barrier-esque obstacle at my local, but I suppose no IKP will be immune to gettin touched. Thanks to everyone who responded! Shalom

Oh, and Ace risers have a perfect cutout in the "C" part so the IKP doesn't poke into the riser or deck

Is that the titanium bolt from the hardware supplier?

[Kevve]

Does no washers on the inside work ok or Will it stop the wheel?

[logjammin]

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IKP turned out to be a success! Did a low top Ace bushing for more clearance. Hi bottom to maintain geo with a flat washer. I still scraped on the edge of it a couple times being at a sharp angle on this steep/mini almost jersey barrier-esque obstacle at my local, but I suppose no IKP will be immune to gettin touched. Thanks to everyone who responded! Shalom

Oh, and Ace risers have a perfect cutout in the "C" part so the IKP doesn't poke into the riser or deck

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Is that the titanium bolt from the hardware supplier?

Yeah I have it bookmarked on my laptop or else I'd throw the link in here but it was from "speedway motors" shalom

[manysnakes]

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IKP turned out to be a success! Did a low top Ace bushing for more clearance. Hi bottom to maintain geo with a flat washer. I still scraped on the edge of it a couple times being at a sharp angle on this steep/mini almost jersey barrier-esque obstacle at my local, but I suppose no IKP will be immune to gettin touched. Thanks to everyone who responded! Shalom

Oh, and Ace risers have a perfect cutout in the "C" part so the IKP doesn't poke into the riser or deck

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Is that the titanium bolt from the hardware supplier?

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Yeah I have it bookmarked on my laptop or else I'd throw the link in here but it was from "speedway motors" shalom

I'm going to guess this
https://www.speedwaymotors.com/Tru-Lite-Titanium-Seat-Bolt-3-8-24-Thread-x-2-Inch,34338.html

or this
https://www.speedwaymotors.com/Tru-Lite-Titanium-Seat-Bolt-3-8-24-Thread-x-2-1-4-Inch,33371.html

Either way, glad to see that it worked. I can't justify sinking the cash into my clapped out trucks which already work perfectly well with the Krux kingpin, but this seems like relevant information for this thread. I'm curious, did you happen to weigh them?

[Mbrimson88]

Does no washers on the inside work ok or Will it stop the wheel?

It often depends on which truck, which bearings and even sometimes if you run bearings with or without shields.

Some bearings have a much wider middle bit than others, some trucks have almost a built in washer (Ace AF1) and some have big wide ends that anything will catch on, etc.

Best way is set them up without and have a roll around and then check to see if there is any rubbing.

[slutbang666]

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Has anyone had any luck going from 149 to 147s and maintaining their 50 50s on tranny? Ledges are fine on smaller trucks but I blow 50 50s and pivot fakies on smaller trucks.

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Muscle memory is not something to doubt.

If you are so used to a certain width truck, it is often weird to change, even a little bit.

Ishod runs 147s with 3 washers on the inside of each wheel, which makes them pretty much 148s anyway.

You could do the same which will bring the wheels out another couple of mm on each side and make them a bit more like wider trucks, but there are still going to be differences.

What size deck do you ride them on?

I ride an 8 or 8.18 now but  I rode an 8.5 for 15 years straight with 149 independents. I love the smaller boards with shorter wb because I’m short, I just skate ramps on 8 inch trucks.

[rob]

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Has anyone had any luck going from 149 to 147s and maintaining their 50 50s on tranny? Ledges are fine on smaller trucks but I blow 50 50s and pivot fakies on smaller trucks.

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Muscle memory is not something to doubt.

If you are so used to a certain width truck, it is often weird to change, even a little bit.

This is very true, I’m gonna reveal my secret now

I went back to 129/145/5.0/whatever size number is below 8 they call it anymore and my skating has been so much better

Greatly

I can tre flip first try, and all because my trucks are so much in the tipping and all that is quicker and lighter and I’m back to riding 7.8-8

I’m back to the early 2000’s boys

Maybe my shoe size/feet barely ever grew so my ratio were never to be modified

Size 9 shoe btw if anyone’s wondering my shoe size to board size ratio

[j....soy.....]

Those kingpins would look way better than that mindy mess...

[RichardBarkley]

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Has anyone had any luck going from 149 to 147s and maintaining their 50 50s on tranny? Ledges are fine on smaller trucks but I blow 50 50s and pivot fakies on smaller trucks.

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Muscle memory is not something to doubt.

If you are so used to a certain width truck, it is often weird to change, even a little bit.

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This is very true, I’m gonna reveal my secret now

I went back to 129/145/5.0/whatever size number is below 8 they call it anymore and my skating has been so much better

Greatly

I can tre flip first try, and all because my trucks are so much in the tipping and all that is quicker and lighter and I’m back to riding 7.8-8

I’m back to the early 2000’s boys

Maybe my shoe size/feet barely ever grew so my ratio were never to be modified

Size 9 shoe btw if anyone’s wondering my shoe size to board size ratio

Nice one man

I'm running venture low 5.0 on an 8 and life is a dream.

[Mbrimson88]

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Has anyone had any luck going from 149 to 147s and maintaining their 50 50s on tranny? Ledges are fine on smaller trucks but I blow 50 50s and pivot fakies on smaller trucks.

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Muscle memory is not something to doubt.

If you are so used to a certain width truck, it is often weird to change, even a little bit.

Ishod runs 147s with 3 washers on the inside of each wheel, which makes them pretty much 148s anyway.

You could do the same which will bring the wheels out another couple of mm on each side and make them a bit more like wider trucks, but there are still going to be differences.

What size deck do you ride them on?

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I ride an 8 or 8.18 now but  I rode an 8.5 for 15 years straight with 149 independents. I love the smaller boards with shorter wb because I’m short, I just skate ramps on 8 inch trucks.

Ha yeah it is almost the opposite - had the 8.12 on 147 thunders or more commonly 139 Indy trucks for a long time, but getting more lazy and happy on bigger the 149s on around 8.5 is easier nowdays.

Curious to see if the extra inside washer thing makes any difference, not a worry if you try it or not.

[logjammin]

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IKP turned out to be a success! Did a low top Ace bushing for more clearance. Hi bottom to maintain geo with a flat washer. I still scraped on the edge of it a couple times being at a sharp angle on this steep/mini almost jersey barrier-esque obstacle at my local, but I suppose no IKP will be immune to gettin touched. Thanks to everyone who responded! Shalom

Oh, and Ace risers have a perfect cutout in the "C" part so the IKP doesn't poke into the riser or deck

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Is that the titanium bolt from the hardware supplier?

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Yeah I have it bookmarked on my laptop or else I'd throw the link in here but it was from "speedway motors" shalom

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I'm going to guess this
https://www.speedwaymotors.com/Tru-Lite-Titanium-Seat-Bolt-3-8-24-Thread-x-2-Inch,34338.html

or this
https://www.speedwaymotors.com/Tru-Lite-Titanium-Seat-Bolt-3-8-24-Thread-x-2-1-4-Inch,33371.html

Either way, glad to see that it worked. I can't justify sinking the cash into my clapped out trucks which already work perfectly well with the Krux kingpin, but this seems like relevant information for this thread. I'm curious, did you happen to weigh them?

Thanks man! I think I did the first link, cause I remember the one review some dude says the Allen hole rounded out right away which obviously he must've done something wrong lol. I did not weigh them as I didn't have a scale. They feel like they're probably the same weight or less than a krux pin.

Interesting turn of events though, cause late last night I started hearing a clicking coming from the pins. I disassembled, then screwed just the pints back into the baseplates with a few threads sticking out, sure enough, the kingpin holes in the baseplates widened and now there's play back and forth. I'm just going to be done with my old 44's and start on my AF1's now. I was kinda pissed off about it at first but whatever, they're trucks. I can't go back to Indy and have a worse turn with the IKP plates, I'll just get the Ace kingpin rethreader thing and use that down the line when my kingpin gets fucked. Shalom

[TheCrimsonShroud]

Okay, so I got my first sent of Indys. Coming from Ventures, I now understand why people say the latter don't turn. So I ask all you Indy guys, do I adjust, crank that kingpin, put in harder bushings, or what? I'm about 200lbs. A little guy but it's mostly muscle. Not gonna trim much weight.

[fakiefs180]

Okay, so I got my first sent of Indys. Coming from Ventures, I now understand why people say the latter don't turn. So I ask all you Indy guys, do I adjust, crank that kingpin, put in harder bushings, or what? I'm about 200lbs. A little guy but it's mostly muscle. Not gonna trim much weight.

I am around the same weight as you. I found the blue indy aftermarket bushings really nice and you probably don't need to crank the nuts down too much. Depends, how much turn you want from your trucks. The blue bushings are 92a if I remember correctly. Cylinder for a stable turn, Conical for a bit more surfy turn. Hope, that helps a little.

[FrozenIndustries]

Harder bushings > tightening trucks. Always.

Do give your stock bushings a chance to firm up, though. They often do and it feels perfect.

[backinaction]

Okay, so I got my first sent of Indys. Coming from Ventures, I now understand why people say the latter don't turn. So I ask all you Indy guys, do I adjust, crank that kingpin, put in harder bushings, or what? I'm about 200lbs. A little guy but it's mostly muscle. Not gonna trim much weight.

I'm 182 and use the blue ones (92a).  At 200 you may want the black (94a).   Pick them both up and mess around.  Maybe even a black top and blue bottom.....

[TheCrimsonShroud]

Harder bushings > tightening trucks. Always.

Do give your stock bushings a chance to firm up, though. They often do and it feels perfect.

Yeah, in my experience fucking with the kingpin is usually more trouble than it’s worth. I really like the turn on them now, I could just use a little less surf for when I do kick tricks lol. I’ll probably implement advice in stages. Give em some time, put some harder ones in half if necessary, etc. Thanks, Slappers.

[TheBoognish]

Okay, so I got my first sent of Indys. Coming from Ventures, I now understand why people say the latter don't turn. So I ask all you Indy guys, do I adjust, crank that kingpin, put in harder bushings, or what? I'm about 200lbs. A little guy but it's mostly muscle. Not gonna trim much weight.

205er here.
I rode loose Indy’s for 18 years and from experience, the stock orange bushings get a bit firmer over time as they break in, you’ll get used to it. Play with the tightness a bit ‘til it suits you, they’re a bit of a bitch to break in when you’re not used to it. Ventures might feel even slower after a few months on Indy’s.

Only other bushings I’ve ever tried with Indy’s were the blue conical bushings for their low truck, which made them really loose, or yellow Doh-Doh’s which made the turn a bit slower, other than that, I always rode them stock.

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Has anyone had any luck going from 149 to 147s and maintaining their 50 50s on tranny? Ledges are fine on smaller trucks but I blow 50 50s and pivot fakies on smaller trucks.

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Muscle memory is not something to doubt.

If you are so used to a certain width truck, it is often weird to change, even a little bit.

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This is very true, I’m gonna reveal my secret now

I went back to 129/145/5.0/whatever size number is below 8 they call it anymore and my skating has been so much better

Greatly

I can tre flip first try, and all because my trucks are so much in the tipping and all that is quicker and lighter and I’m back to riding 7.8-8

I’m back to the early 2000’s boys

Maybe my shoe size/feet barely ever grew so my ratio were never to be modified

Size 9 shoe btw if anyone’s wondering my shoe size to board size ratio

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Nice one man

I'm running venture low 5.0 on an 8 and life is a dream.

Thanks man, ha that’s one of my quiver setups

Got a generator/bbs 8” with some rare 5.0 ventures

Rare because for the life of me almost no one sells venture 5.0 anymore or they were way over priced for some regular solid team set

I get it, no one rides small stuff they don’t sell but venture 5.0?? Those were the bees knees back in the day

Janoski, pj and probably even Gino rode 5.0 ventures

[Velcro Wallet]

These with bones hards (100kgs 6”3 here) have been my trusty cruising trucks for a while now. They are really low and thats how I rode them for ages. Then one day I thought I’d chuck some big krooked risers on and man it felt so much better for ollies n shit. Risers and soft wheels feels like you have suspension on rough surfaces. But I have SML Tom Knox 53’s atm on it. Damn fine wheel

[Xen]

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Setup my new 149 tit indys...one axle was machined weird (or not enough), it was difficult  to get the wheels on (one more than the other), but not so bad I thought it to be a major issue, and once on, wheel is so difficult to get off the bearing will stay the axle when I yank the wheel off and it's impossible to get the bearing off...I've tried everything, started to bang off the bearing to no use, so now I've got a bronson ceramic stuck mid axle on a truck I can't fucking use, fucking livid right now.

Newer China-indys, no cross and 149 under the hanger.

Leaving it as is (yes those are hammer to truck rage marks (bearing still spins).

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You could try dis to generate more force

Finally got it off after days of fuckery...no vice, which would have helped a ton; I drizzled some bronson ceramic oil over the axle at the bearing and let it sit for a day, after some major effort I finally got the bearing off without fucking it up (though I think I lightly sprained my thumb trying to get the bearing off ).

Picked up a cheap-o rotary tool off Amazon and got the axle worked enough to where I can get a bearing on and off (slight effort still, has to be at the right angle or it sticks but I can get a wheel on and off, even if it's not perfect/easy); it's hard to get at the axle where it meets the face of the hanger as the bearing would get stuck there, because of the handle of the tool causing it to angle in due to it touching the axle when trying to work...but it's enough that it doesn't look like the axle is krooked/wonky to have any inner race issues when riding (wheels spin on it fine) and the hanger face is still smooth (I use two speed rings so that's moot really); I've yet to skate them but I'm assuming everything is fine now...at least that wheel won't fly off if the nut somehow falls off...

Big pain in the ass really (especially after getting the fucked up pair or ACEAF1s)...but NHS hooked me up with a 'team box' of hard and soft goods which arrived today! Proper CS right there (told them I'd be fine with just a hanger and one bearing) as they went above and beyond.