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[FrozenIndustries]

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Can I get a truck recommendation? Need 8.5", and I skate larger wheels (56-57mm) so I prefer a higher truck. I would use risers if I had to though. I want a truck on the lighter side with some good turn. I was thinking possibly Thunder hollow lights with risers or hollow Indy's.

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You really can't go wrong with Indy 159s

I've been skating the Indy hollows (cast, not forged) as of late and they feel perfect.

[mynameisnotjeff]

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Can I get a truck recommendation? Need 8.5", and I skate larger wheels (56-57mm) so I prefer a higher truck. I would use risers if I had to though. I want a truck on the lighter side with some good turn. I was thinking possibly Thunder hollow lights with risers or hollow Indy's.

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You really can't go wrong with Indy 159s

https://destructotrucks.com/products/d1-squadron-raw-mid

At a massive 58mm, can’t forget about these.

[MysticalTypeExperience]

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Can I get a truck recommendation? Need 8.5", and I skate larger wheels (56-57mm) so I prefer a higher truck. I would use risers if I had to though. I want a truck on the lighter side with some good turn. I was thinking possibly Thunder hollow lights with risers or hollow Indy's.

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You really can't go wrong with Indy 159s

Why 159's over 149's for an 8.5" deck? Couldn't I just run 149s with a couple extra washers?

[logjammin]

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Can I get a truck recommendation? Need 8.5", and I skate larger wheels (56-57mm) so I prefer a higher truck. I would use risers if I had to though. I want a truck on the lighter side with some good turn. I was thinking possibly Thunder hollow lights with risers or hollow Indy's.

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You really can't go wrong with Indy 159s

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https://destructotrucks.com/products/d1-squadron-raw-mid

At a massive 58mm, can’t forget about these.

These look sick, I wonder if they turn good?

[Boog]

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Can I get a truck recommendation? Need 8.5", and I skate larger wheels (56-57mm) so I prefer a higher truck. I would use risers if I had to though. I want a truck on the lighter side with some good turn. I was thinking possibly Thunder hollow lights with risers or hollow Indy's.

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You really can't go wrong with Indy 159s

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Why 159's over 149's for an 8.5" deck? Couldn't I just run 149s with a couple extra washers?

That's what I do. That way I can ride an 8.25 or an 8.5 if I want.

[Weezil]

I'd just get indy 149 standards and call it a day. I don't think the hollows are worth it personally. Especially if you're running 56mm+ wheels.

[Musicaldeath107]

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Can I get a truck recommendation? Need 8.5", and I skate larger wheels (56-57mm) so I prefer a higher truck. I would use risers if I had to though. I want a truck on the lighter side with some good turn. I was thinking possibly Thunder hollow lights with risers or hollow Indy's.

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You really can't go wrong with Indy 159s

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https://destructotrucks.com/products/d1-squadron-raw-mid

At a massive 58mm, can’t forget about these.

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These look sick, I wonder if they turn good?

The regular Destructos I think are an underrated truck.  Never had any issues with turning.  I mostly have run Ventures and they are significantly surfier.  If you run loose though you may want to grab a set of their softer bushings.  Stock bushings are pretty hard

[manysnakes]

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Can I get a truck recommendation? Need 8.5", and I skate larger wheels (56-57mm) so I prefer a higher truck. I would use risers if I had to though. I want a truck on the lighter side with some good turn. I was thinking possibly Thunder hollow lights with risers or hollow Indy's.

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You really can't go wrong with Indy 159s

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Why 159's over 149's for an 8.5" deck? Couldn't I just run 149s with a couple extra washers?

Sure man, get whatever. Both are great trucks. I like 'em a little wide but 149 works perfectly, too

[logjammin]

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Can I get a truck recommendation? Need 8.5", and I skate larger wheels (56-57mm) so I prefer a higher truck. I would use risers if I had to though. I want a truck on the lighter side with some good turn. I was thinking possibly Thunder hollow lights with risers or hollow Indy's.

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You really can't go wrong with Indy 159s

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https://destructotrucks.com/products/d1-squadron-raw-mid

At a massive 58mm, can’t forget about these.

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These look sick, I wonder if they turn good?

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The regular Destructos I think are an underrated truck.  Never had any issues with turning.  I mostly have run Ventures and they are significantly surfier.  If you run loose though you may want to grab a set of their softer bushings.  Stock bushings are pretty hard

The destructo D1 you'd say is turnier than ventures?

[Musicaldeath107]

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Can I get a truck recommendation? Need 8.5", and I skate larger wheels (56-57mm) so I prefer a higher truck. I would use risers if I had to though. I want a truck on the lighter side with some good turn. I was thinking possibly Thunder hollow lights with risers or hollow Indy's.

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You really can't go wrong with Indy 159s

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https://destructotrucks.com/products/d1-squadron-raw-mid

At a massive 58mm, can’t forget about these.

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These look sick, I wonder if they turn good?

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The regular Destructos I think are an underrated truck.  Never had any issues with turning.  I mostly have run Ventures and they are significantly surfier.  If you run loose though you may want to grab a set of their softer bushings.  Stock bushings are pretty hard

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The destructo D1 you'd say is turnier than ventures?

Used Venture as the example because that's the stereotype of them not turning.
Take this with a grain of salt since I only have Indys on a cruiser setup but the D1s feel similar.

[Ol Nick]

For any of y’all riding Riptide bushings in Thunders, which ones do you run? They give measurements in inches and it seems like their heights might be shorter than stock Thunder (maybe I’m trippin, I don’t know). Does it seem like a shorter bushing? Dropping the angle/wheel biting more/compressing to even shorter over time?

[Xen]

For any of y’all riding Riptide bushings in Thunders, which ones do you run? They give measurements in inches and it seems like their heights might be shorter than stock Thunder (maybe I’m trippin, I don’t know). Does it seem like a shorter bushing? Dropping the angle/wheel biting more/compressing to even shorter over time?

I mixed and matched because the Thunder bottom bushing is fucking huge compared to all the other bushings out there.

TOP: RipTide KranK Short Street Cone (Color: White, Durometer: 87a) - same size as stock thunders

BOTTOM: Venom Pastel Blue SHR Super Carve Cones (86a) - NOTE: it's a bit taller than the thunder bushing but would compress down in short order (I sanded mine down a little, literally like 2min worth of shaving it down).

This was the best combo I found for Thunders as I feel the stock bushings are trash (they work but have crappy rebound).

[j....soy.....]

I’d consider even just running thunders and just get the riptide pivot cup….

[munchbox]

I’d consider even just running thunders and just get the riptide pivot cup….

seconded
did it back when i rode thunders
made everything 3x smoother
this with ace classic bushings was my jam

[intendedreceivers]

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Can I get a truck recommendation? Need 8.5", and I skate larger wheels (56-57mm) so I prefer a higher truck. I would use risers if I had to though. I want a truck on the lighter side with some good turn. I was thinking possibly Thunder hollow lights with risers or hollow Indy's.

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You really can't go wrong with Indy 159s

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https://destructotrucks.com/products/d1-squadron-raw-mid

At a massive 58mm, can’t forget about these.

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These look sick, I wonder if they turn good?

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The regular Destructos I think are an underrated truck.  Never had any issues with turning.  I mostly have run Ventures and they are significantly surfier.  If you run loose though you may want to grab a set of their softer bushings.  Stock bushings are pretty hard

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The destructo D1 you'd say is turnier than ventures?

They definitely turn, and they’re dirt cheap compared to many of the more popular options. They also feel very tall if you’re used to something that’s mid-height (or lower). I have them on the 8.125” Anti-Hero Eagle with 55mm F4 O.G. Classics and it’s the monster truck of my collection. I haven’t tried them with softer bushings, though. I’m trying to break in the stock black bushings and I like how they skate for the most part, but I think these would be pretty lively with some cushy bushings.

[big_kev_215]

Did Indy update the design of 215’s at some point in the past couple years?  I was looking at some for sale online and the ones that still have the iron cross logo on the baseplate (which I assume are older) have a hanger that tapers on the ends and the back of the hanger looks thinner.  The ones without the iron cross logo (which I assume are newer ones) do not have the taper at the edge of the hanger and appear to have a thicker hanger towards the center of the truck.  I dont remember seeing any type of advertised update but I may have just missed it.  Never skated 215’s before and I was curious if there’s any noticeable difference in performance. 

[Plan9Customs]

Yeah they changed the 215s to stage 11 geo a year or so ago. Running a set on my 10.25 now.

[Mbrimson88]

Did Indy update the design of 215’s at some point in the past couple years?  I was looking at some for sale online and the ones that still have the iron cross logo on the baseplate (which I assume are older) have a hanger that tapers on the ends and the back of the hanger looks thinner.  The ones without the iron cross logo (which I assume are newer ones) do not have the taper at the edge of the hanger and appear to have a thicker hanger towards the center of the truck.  I dont remember seeing any type of advertised update but I may have just missed it.  Never skated 215’s before and I was curious if there’s any noticeable difference in performance.

I think they also changed the kingpin (now longer) to run more like the early stages, with taller bushings.

Someone on here was comparing them and their existing other Independent Stage 11 trucks were different in that regard.

The old old Indy trucks had such a tall kingpin, taller top and bottom bushings and virtually zero clearance.


I only have a set of the Stage 11 pre change, which are still the same as all the other Stage 11 trucks in baseplate, kingpin, bushings, etc so don't have any pics for comparison, but I can post a pic of the old trucks that look similar now.


This was the one I was looking for:





https://www.ebay.com/itm/125109054153

[Mbrimson88]

Yeah they changed the 215s to stage 11 geo a year or so ago. Running a set on my 10.25 now.

How do you find the clearance on them?

[big_kev_215]

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Did Indy update the design of 215’s at some point in the past couple years?  I was looking at some for sale online and the ones that still have the iron cross logo on the baseplate (which I assume are older) have a hanger that tapers on the ends and the back of the hanger looks thinner.  The ones without the iron cross logo (which I assume are newer ones) do not have the taper at the edge of the hanger and appear to have a thicker hanger towards the center of the truck.  I dont remember seeing any type of advertised update but I may have just missed it.  Never skated 215’s before and I was curious if there’s any noticeable difference in performance.

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I think they also changed the kingpin (now longer) to run more like the early stages, with taller bushings.

Someone on here was comparing them and their existing other Independent Stage 11 trucks were different in that regard.

The old old Indy trucks had such a tall kingpin, taller top and bottom bushings and virtually zero clearance.


I only have a set of the Stage 11 pre change, which are still the same as all the other Stage 11 trucks in baseplate, kingpin, bushings, etc so don't have any pics for comparison, but I can post a pic of the old trucks that look similar now.


This was the one I was looking for:





https://www.ebay.com/itm/125109054153

This was the comparison picture I was looking at which I’m assuming are the version from a couple years ago (with the cross logo) before the most recent redesign.  They do seem to have a lower kingpin and more of a conical bushing shape than the current ones.  I’m just wondering which geometry is better basically.  The newer (older looking? haha) ones without the cross logo remind me of old Indys from the late 90’s/early 2000’s with virtually no kingpin clearance which is kind of cool in an impractical nostalgic way. 

[Plan9Customs]

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Yeah they changed the 215s to stage 11 geo a year or so ago. Running a set on my 10.25 now.

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How do you find the clearance on them?

Kingpin clearance is the same as all my others(159/169). I’m running 54mm wheels with 1/8 riser Indy super softs(f/r) shaved into conicals with the standard top bushing so they’re floppy loose. The bushings are taller for the top on these so a standard top will give you a ton of room to run them loose. Ie: bottom and top bushings on the new 215s are the same as running 2 bottoms now. No issues with hanging  up or wheelbite. Only issue I had was it felt like I was over shooting every grind trying to lock them but that’s what happens when you go from a 159 to 215. No complaints.

[globe fusion]

ust jumped on and too lazy to scroll through all the pages.

am riding ace classics right now (44 on 8.5, stock bushings, no bottom cup), getting bothered by the stability on ollies.

am debating to switch to venture or thunder

what's the consensus on 6.1 on 8.5? or is 5.8 the way to go?
difference between light's and regulars? the lights are lower, and i believe the hanger is a bit far back, thus extending the wb.

how does the wb on venture compare to thunders?
the turn vs. thunder and ace?

or is af1 a better truck ?

if you have any other info, comments etc. feel free to reply or pm.

thank you for your time and help

[braksabbath]

What does no bottom cup do? Seems like it’ll be sloppier since the bottom bushing is able to mash out around the baseplate

[Mbrimson88]

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Did Indy update the design of 215’s at some point in the past couple years?  I was looking at some for sale online and the ones that still have the iron cross logo on the baseplate (which I assume are older) have a hanger that tapers on the ends and the back of the hanger looks thinner.  The ones without the iron cross logo (which I assume are newer ones) do not have the taper at the edge of the hanger and appear to have a thicker hanger towards the center of the truck.  I dont remember seeing any type of advertised update but I may have just missed it.  Never skated 215’s before and I was curious if there’s any noticeable difference in performance.

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I think they also changed the kingpin (now longer) to run more like the early stages, with taller bushings.

Someone on here was comparing them and their existing other Independent Stage 11 trucks were different in that regard.

The old old Indy trucks had such a tall kingpin, taller top and bottom bushings and virtually zero clearance.


I only have a set of the Stage 11 pre change, which are still the same as all the other Stage 11 trucks in baseplate, kingpin, bushings, etc so don't have any pics for comparison, but I can post a pic of the old trucks that look similar now.


This was the one I was looking for:





https://www.ebay.com/itm/125109054153

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This was the comparison picture I was looking at which I’m assuming are the version from a couple years ago (with the cross logo) before the most recent redesign.  They do seem to have a lower kingpin and more of a conical bushing shape than the current ones.  I’m just wondering which geometry is better basically.  The newer (older looking? haha) ones without the cross logo remind me of old Indys from the late 90’s/early 2000’s with virtually no kingpin clearance which is kind of cool in an impractical nostalgic way.

Yes those are the ones I have - still new / unused as I just don't have anything I feel like they would work well on, but they are not going anywhere so they can just stay there until needed, if ever.  Most of my bigger boards are just fine with standard 169s, but if I ever need the wider option, at least I have a set ready to go.

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Yeah they changed the 215s to stage 11 geo a year or so ago. Running a set on my 10.25 now.

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How do you find the clearance on them?

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Kingpin clearance is the same as all my others(159/169). I’m running 54mm wheels with 1/8 riser Indy super softs(f/r) shaved into conicals with the standard top bushing so they’re floppy loose. The bushings are taller for the top on these so a standard top will give you a ton of room to run them loose. Ie: bottom and top bushings on the new 215s are the same as running 2 bottoms now. No issues with hanging  up or wheelbite. Only issue I had was it felt like I was over shooting every grind trying to lock them but that’s what happens when you go from a 159 to 215. No complaints.

Thanks!

Interesting info.

I seem to recall the new ones having almost zero kingpin clearance, as per a set I saw in a shop the other day with no front cross logo, but all my normal Indy Stage 11s have a ton of clearance, including the set of Stage 11 215s I had from when they were still stamped with USA on the baseplate.

[Mbrimson88]

What does no bottom cup do? Seems like it’ll be sloppier since the bottom bushing is able to mash out around the baseplate

As in no bottom washer?

Try it and see.

It is a whole new world of crazy carving turns and great on bowls or pump tracks but a little harder to control or get used to if you are skating normal street things as you are totally more prone to wheelbite and all that.

Quite a few of the bowl kids ride that as their standard go to, as well as being able to skate street on them as well, but they are pretty small light weight bodies, for the most part.  Some other bigger dudes also skate like that as they are very much in control of ankle movements, but it can take some getting used to for sure.

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about the 215's, wasn't the rumor that the old mold broke or something i remember.
they didnt make them for a long time, then in late 2019/early 2020 the started to produce them again with this new shape. first in small batches that sold out instantly every time. i guess those were like test runs. but since last year or so they've been well stocked again.

they didn't remover the iron cross at the same time as the remodel tho. mine have them and my friends do aswell.

i think the whole baseplate was taller than normal stage 11's. not only the bushings. i think the truck might be higher in general to compensate the width.
i take that back. just checked.

[Mbrimson88]

about the 215's, wasn't the rumor that the old mold broke or something i remember.
they didnt make them for a long time, then in late 2019/early 2020 the started to produce them again with this new shape. first in small batches that sold out instantly every time. i guess those were like test runs. but since last year or so they've been well stocked again.

they didn't remover the iron cross at the same time as the remodel tho. mine have them and my friends do aswell.

i think the whole baseplate was taller than normal stage 11's. not only the bushings. i think the truck might be higher in general to compensate the width.
i take that back. just checked.

It was crazy how many people wanted 215s when they stopped making them.

The last couple of sets I had went to "megaramp" kids who all were told they had to have 215s to ride the big megaramp setup down in Victoria (Australia only has one megaramp) but many were getting away with 169s anyway as they really didn't need super wide trucks for the beginner levels (which was no joke any which way you looked at it).

That also left all the regular 215 riders struggling to find any, but I think a number of those guys ended up getting the widest Ace trucks, just to get them through.

[FrozenIndustries]

Just got these 159s in a trade. Typically I run blue medium barrel or Bones hard in Indys, but I had a set of Ace low bushings around and decided to try them out.

I've always accepted that a lot of the Ace turn comes from the bushings, but damn if these don't turn exactly like a 44 classic. Been loving Indy for the grind and pop feel, but this resolves a lot of things for me.

[manysnakes]

I replaced some blown out Indy medium bushings with some well used Ace from my broken 44s and they work really well. It wasn’t night and day for me but it was a solid choice, the turn was still great.

[Richard Skidder]

Forged IKP baseplates are going out to a few folks now.