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[goodatmeth]

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8” Thunders (147) vs 8” Independent (139s) size difference
Has anybody else switched from Indy’s  to Thunders? I did, & now I’m kinda worried about my grinds.
What is your experience with switching?
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These are just straight up not the same size truck

This. They should be exactly the same width

[DarkPools]

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8” Thunders (147) vs 8” Independent (139s) size difference
Has anybody else switched from Indy’s  to Thunders? I did, & now I’m kinda worried about my grinds.
What is your experience with switching?
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These are just straight up not the same size truck

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This. They should be exactly the same width

Is that person sure those aren't 145 or 146 Thunders, and not 147? Regardless, thay is odd. They don't look like the same size at all.

Thunder
149 = 8.5
148 = 8.25
147 = 8
146 = 7.75 (not sure if this size exists or not)
145 = 7.5

[ImmanuelCunt]

That have to be at least 149 Indies, I just checked my 147 thunders and 144 Indies and it is less of a difference than this.

edit: Photos are shit, but you'll get the point.





edit 2: Thunder 149 vs Thunder 147 for comparison. Indies 149 are mounted currently and hard to compare and I don't want to unmount them right now.



edit 3: Forgot that I had 1444 Thunder as well. Thunder 144 and Indy 144. They are the same width. And yes I have a Problem.

[Rosstradahmus]

Standard Venture 5.8's with the loose trucks bushings and a Kreper pin.

[Mbrimson88]

Standard Venture 5.8's with the loose trucks bushings and a Kreper pin.

Maybe a bit late, but did you have to angle grind down the end of the kingpin on those?

Most other low head bushings don't seem to fit in the inverted kingpin sets, as they have the set length kingpins, or even worse, have set thread limit, but goodness there is zero kingpin hangup on those hey?!?

[goodatmeth]

What the hell are origin trucks. Just came in:

https://www.skatedeluxe.com/en/origin-shop

[tuesday]

What the hell are origin trucks.

The fugliest trucks in quite some time.

[LebowskisRug]

How big are y'all riding 8-8.125? I had an 8" Polar I liked with a 14.25WB and 139s, but eventually went back up to 144 and it got stolen from my car in my parking garage. These days I'm on 8.25-8.38 mostly with 14.38 and honestly not sure I could feasibly go down below that and lose pop, but I do wonder. I'm 6 foot 3 with a size 10

[goodatmeth]

How big are y'all riding 8-8.125? I had an 8" Polar I liked with a 14.25WB and 139s, but eventually went back up to 144 and it got stolen from my car in my parking garage. These days I'm on 8.25-8.38 mostly with 14.38 and honestly not sure I could feasibly go down below that and lose pop, but I do wonder. I'm 6 foot 3 with a size 10

I'm currently riding an 8.0 board because I panic-bought every availlable ishod twin tail two years ago when they were still rare and all 8.25 were gone.
First skated it with 8.0 thunders on risers but felt much more comfortable after switching to 8.25 thunders. Flip tricks feel the same, but it somehow makes such a big difference on ledges and transition.

[logjammin]

Through all the madness of lowering kingpins whether it be using an angle grinder or going the inverted route, I had a random idea that seems super easy but I don’t think any fellow truck schizos on here have mentioned trying it. Put on a low top bushing and set the nut so everything is tightened down properly, then with all the excess kingpin sticking up just snip it off with a bolt cutter that has 3/8” cutting capacity. Boom, done. Worst case might need to rethread the tip where it was cut?

[j....soy.....]

What the hell are origin trucks. Just came in:

https://www.skatedeluxe.com/en/origin-shop

For those who skated krux and thought…..‘I need more hole…’

[FGO925]

Anyone have suggestions on modding venture/Indy/thunder with an inverted kingpin?

I’ve seen some with the kreper kingpin and the krux downlow as well. From what I remember it’s only able to be done on cast plates not forged?

I have a bunch of old spare trucks that I’d love to have some fun and convert to an IKP setup.

Is it required to JB weld the bottom? 

[j....soy.....]

Yes, cast baseplates and something older ie. I had problems with newer thunder cast plates.  I jammed a screw driver to lock the nut and get my trucks to the right tightness, mounted them, and didn’t touch them and I was fine.  The JB more so helps it from coming loose.  I think too you could skate a low bushing to get a few more threads…,

[radcunt]

when is someone going to release a good inverted kingpin truck that either has a threaded baseplate or a notched nut hole to slit the nut into. Slappy could have done this as standard as king pin clearance is always the unsolved mystery with most trucks. Hate the sound of a grinding kingpin.

[rocklobster]

when is someone going to release a good inverted kingpin truck that either has a threaded baseplate or a notched nut hole to slit the nut into. Slappy could have done this as standard as king pin clearance is always the unsolved mystery with most trucks. Hate the sound of a grinding kingpin.

Royal did a good job with their IKP, I think they did a threaded baseplate. The pair I rode didn't rattle loose but the bushings were way too soft. Started out medium but got way too mushy after a few months.

[Xen]

Royal, Indy/krux and slappy all have a threaded plate w/shaft nut (and the same pin; coincidence?)…where ya been?

[Mbrimson88]

when is someone going to release a good inverted kingpin truck that either has a threaded baseplate or a notched nut hole to slit the nut into. Slappy could have done this as standard as king pin clearance is always the unsolved mystery with most trucks. Hate the sound of a grinding kingpin.

Are you meaning just a standard kingpin nut that sits in the baseplate, like the old Krux inverted kingpins sat in their baseplates or some other brands used to do?  I just can't remember which brands I have seen, but there were a few - old Indy, Thunder and others have all worked with those, with the old hex head baseplates.

To me this would be a better option than the built in kingpin nuts with shaft and solid components, as you could change it out whenever you needed to.

I guess this also came with its own problems back in the day as the baseplate hole would oval out, as per a few sets I have seen from others who did that mod on them, but at least it was way easier to swap out just the nut as needed.

The newer Thunder baseplate with the hex bottom is way easier to just use a standard kingpin nut at least.


Not sure if you have seen them, but pics here in the Thunder thread:


https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=118215.msg3731535#msg3731535


Or this one from way earlier, maybe the first time this was posted:

Looks like Thunder is setting the kingpin deeper into the baseplate now. Should allow to get them a little bit looser.

[radcunt]

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when is someone going to release a good inverted kingpin truck that either has a threaded baseplate or a notched nut hole to slit the nut into. Slappy could have done this as standard as king pin clearance is always the unsolved mystery with most trucks. Hate the sound of a grinding kingpin.

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Are you meaning just a standard kingpin nut that sits in the baseplate, like the old Krux inverted kingpins sat in their baseplates or some other brands used to do?  I just can't remember which brands I have seen, but there were a few - old Indy, Thunder and others have all worked with those, with the old hex head baseplates.

To me this would be a better option than the built in kingpin nuts with shaft and solid components, as you could change it out whenever you needed to.

I guess this also came with its own problems back in the day as the baseplate hole would oval out, as per a few sets I have seen from others who did that mod on them, but at least it was way easier to swap out just the nut as needed.

The newer Thunder baseplate with the hex bottom is way easier to just use a standard kingpin nut at least.


Not sure if you have seen them, but pics here in the Thunder thread:


https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=118215.msg3731535#msg3731535


Or this one from way earlier, maybe the first time this was posted:

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Looks like Thunder is setting the kingpin deeper into the baseplate now. Should allow to get them a little bit looser.

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I remember having trucks in the 90s we’d invert the kingpins on as they had hex shaped holes in the baseplate.  Plus have sworn they were Indy’s.

[bombsaway86]

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when is someone going to release a good inverted kingpin truck that either has a threaded baseplate or a notched nut hole to slit the nut into. Slappy could have done this as standard as king pin clearance is always the unsolved mystery with most trucks. Hate the sound of a grinding kingpin.

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Are you meaning just a standard kingpin nut that sits in the baseplate, like the old Krux inverted kingpins sat in their baseplates or some other brands used to do?  I just can't remember which brands I have seen, but there were a few - old Indy, Thunder and others have all worked with those, with the old hex head baseplates.

To me this would be a better option than the built in kingpin nuts with shaft and solid components, as you could change it out whenever you needed to.

I guess this also came with its own problems back in the day as the baseplate hole would oval out, as per a few sets I have seen from others who did that mod on them, but at least it was way easier to swap out just the nut as needed.

The newer Thunder baseplate with the hex bottom is way easier to just use a standard kingpin nut at least.


Not sure if you have seen them, but pics here in the Thunder thread:


https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=118215.msg3731535#msg3731535


Or this one from way earlier, maybe the first time this was posted:

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Looks like Thunder is setting the kingpin deeper into the baseplate now. Should allow to get them a little bit looser.

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I remember having trucks in the 90s we’d invert the kingpins on as they had hex shaped holes in the baseplate.  Plus have sworn they were Indy’s.

If I remember correctly, Indy’s had a hex shaped hole for the kingpin up until stage 9. I remember breaking kingpins on stage 8 a lot, then when stage 9 came out they had the new “unbreakable” kingpins with the round head.

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I remember when the stage 9 came out. never broke a kingpin on stage 8’s. but I remember breaking at least 2-3 kingpins on separate pairs of stage 9’s. at the time I weighed 110 lbs soaking wet. 🤣 don’t miss those trucks. also pretty sure that was Indy’s shortest lived stage.

[bombsaway86]

I remember when the stage 9 came out. never broke a kingpin on stage 8’s. but I remember breaking at least 2-3 kingpins on separate pairs of stage 9’s. at the time I weighed 110 lbs soaking wet. 🤣 don’t miss those trucks. also pretty sure that was Indy’s shortest lived stage.

I never broke kingpins on stage 9, but I had a few baseplates split in half. They upgraded the baseplates mid run, so there was kind of a stage 9.5 truck for a while.

I definitely remember them advertising the kingpins as “unbreakable” on stage 9

[Mbrimson88]

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when is someone going to release a good inverted kingpin truck that either has a threaded baseplate or a notched nut hole to slit the nut into. Slappy could have done this as standard as king pin clearance is always the unsolved mystery with most trucks. Hate the sound of a grinding kingpin.

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Are you meaning just a standard kingpin nut that sits in the baseplate, like the old Krux inverted kingpins sat in their baseplates or some other brands used to do?  I just can't remember which brands I have seen, but there were a few - old Indy, Thunder and others have all worked with those, with the old hex head baseplates.

To me this would be a better option than the built in kingpin nuts with shaft and solid components, as you could change it out whenever you needed to.

I guess this also came with its own problems back in the day as the baseplate hole would oval out, as per a few sets I have seen from others who did that mod on them, but at least it was way easier to swap out just the nut as needed.

The newer Thunder baseplate with the hex bottom is way easier to just use a standard kingpin nut at least.

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I remember having trucks in the 90s we’d invert the kingpins on as they had hex shaped holes in the baseplate.  Plus have sworn they were Indy’s.

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If I remember correctly, Indy’s had a hex shaped hole for the kingpin up until stage 9. I remember breaking kingpins on stage 8 a lot, then when stage 9 came out they had the new “unbreakable” kingpins with the round head.

I think the normal hex kingpin was replaced just before 2000 with the new button head, so every truck up til then had an easier option to just push out the normal kingpin to put in another or put something else in like the inverted kingpins.

That innovation was said to make kingpins way lighter and more stable in the baseplate, but for anyone needing to remove it or replace it, often it was not so much fun.

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I remember when the stage 9 came out. never broke a kingpin on stage 8’s. but I remember breaking at least 2-3 kingpins on separate pairs of stage 9’s. at the time I weighed 110 lbs soaking wet. 🤣 don’t miss those trucks. also pretty sure that was Indy’s shortest lived stage.

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I never broke kingpins on stage 9, but I had a few baseplates split in half. They upgraded the baseplates mid run, so there was kind of a stage 9.5 truck for a while.

I definitely remember them advertising the kingpins as “unbreakable” on stage 9

With you on the Stage 9 - so many baseplates broke and lots of returns / warranty claims put in for those things while working at a bigger shop.

I think I accumulated a whole lot of hangers in that period, whereas all other stages it was the hanger that wore out so I was able to recycle more hangers during and after they came out with the solid baseplate.  Now I am back to having more baseplates than hangers, but it was an interesting time.

[radcunt]

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when is someone going to release a good inverted kingpin truck that either has a threaded baseplate or a notched nut hole to slit the nut into. Slappy could have done this as standard as king pin clearance is always the unsolved mystery with most trucks. Hate the sound of a grinding kingpin.

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Are you meaning just a standard kingpin nut that sits in the baseplate, like the old Krux inverted kingpins sat in their baseplates or some other brands used to do?  I just can't remember which brands I have seen, but there were a few - old Indy, Thunder and others have all worked with those, with the old hex head baseplates.

To me this would be a better option than the built in kingpin nuts with shaft and solid components, as you could change it out whenever you needed to.

I guess this also came with its own problems back in the day as the baseplate hole would oval out, as per a few sets I have seen from others who did that mod on them, but at least it was way easier to swap out just the nut as needed.

The newer Thunder baseplate with the hex bottom is way easier to just use a standard kingpin nut at least.


Not sure if you have seen them, but pics here in the Thunder thread:


https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=118215.msg3731535#msg3731535


Or this one from way earlier, maybe the first time this was posted:

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Looks like Thunder is setting the kingpin deeper into the baseplate now. Should allow to get them a little bit looser.

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I remember having trucks in the 90s we’d invert the kingpins on as they had hex shaped holes in the baseplate.  Plus have sworn they were Indy’s.

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If I remember correctly, Indy’s had a hex shaped hole for the kingpin up until stage 9. I remember breaking kingpins on stage 8 a lot, then when stage 9 came out they had the new “unbreakable” kingpins with the round head.

Bingo!!  Good to know I’m not nuts. Hacksawing those kingpins was a turd but we’d grind them through the axle and needed all the clearance we could get.

[Steely Daniel]

I remember when the stage 9 came out. never broke a kingpin on stage 8’s. but I remember breaking at least 2-3 kingpins on separate pairs of stage 9’s. at the time I weighed 110 lbs soaking wet. 🤣 don’t miss those trucks. also pretty sure that was Indy’s shortest lived stage.

Stage 9 were horrible. I remember bending all the axles on the 3 pairs I had...

[dr.prestige]

anybody got any experience with Grind King Disruptors? I got them somewhat recently and have barely used them because I think they don't turn very well. I just got them some aftermarket 88a Indy bushings with the tapered bottom bushings and they improved a good amount but I'd still like to hear your thoughts/opinions/tips/tricks

[emotional_degloving]

anybody got any experience with Grind King Disruptors? I got them somewhat recently and have barely used them because I think they don't turn very well. I just got them some aftermarket 88a Indy bushings with the tapered bottom bushings and they improved a good amount but I'd still like to hear your thoughts/opinions/tips/tricks

In my experience they were okay-ish, they're weird. They grind really well, it's a piss take you need the proprietary tool to tighten, take apart, etc. which I think sullied my view on them. And then went insane trying to figure out how to make the turn actually good.
The stock bushings kinda suck ass and so does the turn. I think you're on the right track with the Indy bushings, but they can get very bitey.

I know another person who also got them and slowly went into bushing insanity thanks to the Disruptors.

I got some around August/September and I think the warning sign was the fact the shop owner had never heard of them but they mysteriously had a pair at the back of the truck cabinet. Backrooms cryptid ass truck.

[metchup]

Has anyone ever combined ace low baseplates with Indy hangers?  I have ace f1 lows and switched back to my forged hollow Indys today and I immediately missed the ace low turn but the grind is 10x better.  So my brain tells me to put the hanger on the ace baseplates.  Why will I regret this?

[munchbox]

Why will I regret this?

be sure to let us know, trailblazer

[Xen]

Carbon fiber plates (appear to be a one off for funsies)

[dr.prestige]

Carbon fiber plates (appear to be a one off for funsies)

these are pretty incredible. I wonder how they would hold up to some noseslides. He's obviously not going to be using these for curbs and ledges though.