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Skateboarding => USELESS WOODEN TOY BANTER => Topic started by: fulfillthedream on July 26, 2015, 01:44:32 AM
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seems he's not feeling that Mark Suciu is doing a similar trick at Love?
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If it's really about the trick then damn what a stupid thing for Kalis to be upset about.
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If it's really about the trick then damn what a stupid thing for Kalis to be upset about.
Not just the trick, the whole add is biting the original. If you can't see that, then you're the stupid one.
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yeah i'm not really getting the hate... guy from michigan (isn't he?) that has Love as a huge part of his career and guy from California that has Love as a part of his career...
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i couldn't find a really similar image of a nose blunt but i found one that has the same nighttime look, seems like some shit is about to happen or it's going to fizzle away.
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i'm sure it's more a homage to all the pictures from love of that era
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Is it possible Suciu might be a Kalis fan ? And he's paying homage to him explaining trick choice/location/style of photography. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
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Hell yeah both were dope. Also, anyone see the Kalis 49mm bazooka joe inspired wheels for Gold (i'm putting em on my next setup)? Shame on him for ripping off Bazooka Joe the original. ;)
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brown is an awful shoe colour
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Should see it more as a tribute , sure Suici is a fan
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brown is an awful shoe colour
Nothin wrong with brown shoes, blue jeans and a red flannel.
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brown is an awful shoe colour
red flannel yeah but nah to the pants and shoes
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brown is an awful shoe colour
Red fllannel and blue jeans is like peanut butter and jelly son. You think the lumberjakcs who started that shit were wearing khakis?
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I'm not sure where we stand on this. I'm going to have to confer with Bill, our expert in the hawk vs papas 900 theft litigation. This appears closer to a case of spot theft. New territory folks. We will have opinions from Dr. Puleo,after the break...
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brown is an awful shoe colour
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It's probably because he's not from Philly? That's my guess.
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It's probably because he's not from Philly? That's my guess.
Neither is Kalis. I really don't see why Kalis is angry- its a backside noseblunt down the barrier where kalis did it gap to frontside noseblunt. DGKALIS give us some insight!
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there's no Philly, it was an indian land, you gangstarrap motherfucker !
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I think he's just sick of seeing that guy
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I think he's just sick of seeing that guy
Crazy Joe Davola ?
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Is it possible Suciu might be a Kalis fan ? And he's paying homage to him explaining trick choice/location/style of photography. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery laziness.
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pretty sure he's directing his comment towards the taggers who disrespectfully vandalized that philly barrier.
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Hey, Kalis, post your opinion on this.
You are a mod after all...
C'mon with the DGK ALL DAY and ret's lyte this beef up!
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Couldn't find it but someone else back noseblunted the same barrier. Drawing a blank on who but the pics were posted side by side on somebody's IG a few days ago. I also have a cool Kalis story. I went to the park and there were maybe 5 dudes there, three of them were Kalis, Wes Kremer, and Cyril (kinda random for MN). He came up to me and was like "what up I'm Josh". He went to give me knucks and the light bounced off his DC ring and blinded me for a second...it was awesome.
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What a fucking lame ass thing to be bummed on. Homie should be flattered.
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Cant imagine a guy like Suciu doing stuff like this just to "bite" people.
The philly and Kalis homage is more than obvious and apart from that Suciu is one of the most humble, smart and talented pro's ever.
Come on Kalis, you should be flattered.
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the post was poking fun at Adidas.
Suciu is my dude... i think the trick and photo is dope...
If it were editorial... thats one thing.. but to run it as a shoe ad... cmon guys... We did that shit 15 years ago. I drug that barrier and had a vision... so we did it. I think its wack as fuck for adidas to run that as a shoe ad.
I could sit here and explain what makes it different than any other photo at the same spot.. but in my opinion, there is things you just have to respect.
come up with your own ideas......
thats what i meant by the post.
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Facebook lol
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you had a board with the Natas panther graphic, it's the same shit, tribute shit, respect shit, dude
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Thing is, all that kind of phony mid- period nostalgia is marketing gold, unfortunately.
The skateboarding mainstream has dried up culturally so the goldfish memory of an activity with an average generational cycle of 6 or 7 years means a lot of that stuff which should be lore is up for grabs for claiming as an homage or some other buffoonery.
Like the EMB stuff in that Supreme thing, to me its a bit corny in the only board_thing which needs modernity to push it forward. Surfing and snowboarding renews its terrain with the weather, skating can't so it should press on and not repeat the same stuff claiming roots or respect.
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how did you roofie the barrier.?....were you all sly about like.....'no..no...drinks on me!'
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Skateboarding would be so boring if you could never do tricks at the same spot other people have done tricks. Were they suppose to put a disclaimer that Josh Kalis has done a trick here before? Even after Kalis's explanation I still don't see why anyone should hate it. If anything he should be hyped that someone remembered his idea after 15 years. It's not like Adidas or Susci are making it seem like they were the first to skate it like that.
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tribute? I dunno. even if it is a tribute then that means tributes dont really mean shit. what Idratherwatch said.
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Skateboarding would be so boring if you could never do tricks at the same spot other people have done tricks. Were they suppose to put a disclaimer that Josh Kalis has done a trick here before? Even after Kalis's explanation I still don't see why anyone should hate it. If anything he should be hyped that someone remembered his idea after 15 years. It's not like Adidas or Susci are making it seem like they were the first to skate it like that.
Your only looking at it at face value.
I'm not going to argue about it.... I'm not offended.... It's flattering, but at the same time it's not. Dudes fuck your chick... Flattering??
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Skateboarding would be so boring if you could never do tricks at the same spot other people have done tricks. Were they suppose to put a disclaimer that Josh Kalis has done a trick here before? Even after Kalis's explanation I still don't see why anyone should hate it. If anything he should be hyped that someone remembered his idea after 15 years. It's not like Adidas or Susci are making it seem like they were the first to skate it like that.
Your only looking at it at face value.
I'm not going to argue about it.... I'm not offended.... It's flattering, but at the same time it's not. Dudes fuck your chick... Flattering??
Idk, ask Carroll.
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This shit is so fucking hilarious. The dumbest shit to be butt hurt over.
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This shit is so fucking hilarious. The dumbest shit to be butt hurt over.
true. mark is an obvious enthusiast of love park skating, and kalis is the don behind all that. if anything this should be looked at with gratitude, not comparing it to a dude fucking your chick.
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you had a board with the Natas panther graphic, it's the same shit, tribute shit, respect shit, dude
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Gotta agree with the snake here.
We all respect you 100% Kalis, but please don't kook yourself over this :/.
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All gravy. That's the beauty of opinions.
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He turned the noseblunt f/s to backside
15 years of progression
LOVE 4EVER
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you had a board with the Natas panther graphic, it's the same shit, tribute shit, respect shit, dude
(http://blog.skatewarehouse.com/wp-content/uploads/dgk-kalis-dog-homage-deck-360x480.jpg)
Are you seriously talking about the same shit? Its a photo with triick and not a shoe ad. Not a tribute to Kalis.
Adidas wants to resume an essence that never been part, never will.
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Guess Kalis is the only person allowed to shoot photos at landmarks.. What about when you propped up a tile to skate over a can? Did you get permission from Ricky? I'm dumbfounded on how anyone could be bummed on this.
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Backing Kalis on this one. If it was an homage in a video part or maybe an ad for a struggling core skate brand, maybe one thing. But for a multi-million dollar corporation that is vying for the direct marketshare that DC/Kalis represents, it's a morally bankrupted, total lack of creativity on Adidas' marketing advertising dept. About the same as when Nike used the classic Minor Threat cover for their "Major Threat" ad.
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Guess Kalis is the only person allowed to shoot photos at landmarks.. What about when you propped up a tile to skate over a can? Did you get permission from Ricky? I'm dumbfounded on how anyone could be bummed on this.
You see.... Some people just don't get it. No disrespect to you.... But again.... Your looking at it at face value. I'm done. If you get you get it... If not hopefully you will someday.
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Guess Kalis is the only person allowed to shoot photos at landmarks.. What about when you propped up a tile to skate over a can? Did you get permission from Ricky? I'm dumbfounded on how anyone could be bummed on this.
I'm with DGKalis on this, I hated when other brands would bite Blind ads.
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Backing Kalis on this one. If it was an homage in a video part or maybe an ad for a struggling core skate brand, maybe one thing. But for a multi-million dollar corporation that is vying for the direct marketshare that DC/Kalis represents, it's a morally bankrupted, total lack of creativity on Adidas' marketing advertising dept. About the same as when Nike used the classic Minor Threat cover for their "Major Threat" ad.
Yah and DC is owned by a publicly traded surf company? What about Chris Cole's nbd ad campaign? A lot of those tricks have been done but you don't see older pros hating on it publicly.
It's just skateboarding and there isn't a rule book.
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Backing Kalis on this one. If it was an homage in a video part or maybe an ad for a struggling core skate brand, maybe one thing. But for a multi-million dollar corporation that is vying for the direct marketshare that DC/Kalis represents, it's a morally bankrupted, total lack of creativity on Adidas' marketing advertising dept. About the same as when Nike used the classic Minor Threat cover for their "Major Threat" ad.
Yah and DC is owned by a publicly traded surf company? What about Chris Cole's nbd ad campaign? A lot of those tricks have been done but you don't see older pros hating on it publicly.
It's just skateboarding and there isn't a rule book.
I'm looking at it from the marketing point of view I guess. Sure, take two famous photos, combine the imagery, bite the trick, should at least be a tribute shoe on Adidas at that point. The Nike thing I was referring to...it's just punk rock, no rules who cares who sits on a step who hasn't sat on a step before...
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I'll take Kalis' word on anything.
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Suciu shits all over kalis the fuck
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Haha why are people trying to make it sound like Adidas set this whole thing up? Some of you are acting like some marketing dude told Suciu to do this. Pretty sure he just skates there a lot and decided to do this as an ad. I doubt it was some scheme to target the skaters who'd remember the original ad. Some people are reading way too much into this shit, unless there's something Kalis knows that we don't then I still find all of this hate on Suciu/Adidas pretty stupid.
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Should see it more as a tribute , sure Suici is a fan
this.
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It's just skateboarding and there isn't a rule book.
This. Seems to me like suciu just likes all that love imagery that Kalis and them created. I see it as tribute.
Nbd, Abd, i've never really cared.
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good for kalis sticking to his guns and not tucking his tail and deleting the comment like most pro's would do. but, cmon business is a huge part of skateboarding and im sure wayyy more crooked shit is going on behind the scenes than this
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good for kalis sticking to his guns and not tucking his tail and deleting the comment like most pro's would do. but, cmon business is a huge part of skateboarding and im sure wayyy more crooked shit is going on behind the scenes than this
I guess you didn't see when some kid called him gay, and kalis went fucking off on instagram on this kid, only to delete it shortly after. I saw danny renaud in the comments saying it was lame to do.
Pros need to stop calling shit out on social media, even if they have a point, because it only makes them look bad. Never good.
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I was driving to work the other day, all of a sudden at a red light kalis threw me out of the car grand-theft-auto style and told me to "stop biting ma daughter's shit yo"
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Haha why are people trying to make it sound like Adidas set this whole thing up? Some of you are acting like some marketing dude told Suciu to do this. Pretty sure he just skates there a lot and decided to do this as an ad. I doubt it was some scheme to target the skaters who'd remember the original ad. Some people are reading way too much into this shit, unless there's something Kalis knows that we don't then I still find all of this hate on Suciu/Adidas pretty stupid.
this. he was probably just skating at love and there happened to be a barrier. Maybe thought, "oh damn remember when people used to skate it like this back in the day?" then just shot a photo on it with the photographer. He has a mean bs noseblunt. Can't think of a better trick for that thing, and obviously the photo was gonna turn out amazing. It did, and they turned it in for an ad. That's probably pretty close to what actually happened, give or take a few details. Wasn't a diss to Kalis, probably wasn't a tribute. I bet it was just more of a nostalgia thing.
God. Who fucking cares. I just typed way too much.
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The DC version is much better anyways... that's something I haven't said very often lately.
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Anybody gonna talk about how perfect that back noseblunt is?
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i love you josh, but i don't get it
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Actually Facebook posts on Slap are fucking stupid. Whoever started this thread is fucking dumb. Kalis has been with DC forever, look from his perspective...this is blatantly ripping off a DC ad layout, actually a poster layout. It's Josh Kalis's perspective, his post...You should recognize that starting a thread on this shit is fucking stupid not what his opinion is. You're taking everything way out of context. Seriously Adidas can just do an ad of the shoe and their logo, it's Adidas. Some of you need to keep scrolling and not take still frames of everything and make threads about it.
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Gimme a fucking break.
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Haha why are people trying to make it sound like Adidas set this whole thing up? Some of you are acting like some marketing dude told Suciu to do this. Pretty sure he just skates there a lot and decided to do this as an ad. I doubt it was some scheme to target the skaters who'd remember the original ad. Some people are reading way too much into this shit, unless there's something Kalis knows that we don't then I still find all of this hate on Suciu/Adidas pretty stupid.
this. he was probably just skating at love and there happened to be a barrier. Maybe thought, "oh damn remember when people used to skate it like this back in the day?" then just shot a photo on it with the photographer. He has a mean bs noseblunt. Can't think of a better trick for that thing, and obviously the photo was gonna turn out amazing. It did, and they turned it in for an ad. That's probably pretty close to what actually happened, give or take a few details. Wasn't a diss to Kalis, probably wasn't a tribute. I bet it was just more of a nostalgia thing.
God. Who fucking cares. I just typed way too much.
The photographer (assuming he has seen some skate photos from the last 15 years) clearly based this composition on old photos which framed the Robert Indiana sculpture on one side and barrier on the other. Too bad he didn't hold the shutter open to illuminate more of the background.
The ad itself, like DC's pre-corporate standard layout, features an enlarged photo of the tilted shoe one one side, with a 3/4 page photo on the other. Also, the film edge is visible with the Fuji "RDP" code showing. DC ads always printed the film code, sometimes with the sprocket holes (35mm). This ad may have been shot with a digital camera with the film code added later--typically 120/220 rolls have numbered frames as well.
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First thing i thought about :
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We get it Kalis the barrier was your thing and you made it into a whole ad campaign, got it on Xgames and even got mad when Pops took it then hid it from you after he had a photo in it. You ruled philly in the early 2000's and besides Stevie you were the first name that popped up whenever someone talked about Love. Its a new era bro, let it go! Suciu/Ishod are the new Kalis/Stevie so let them enjoy their prime. Shits gonna get repeated just like how when you revamped Love after Ricky's movement died. Don't be a salty Ray J and start chanting "I hit it first".
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While there are points on both sides to be made, I feel like in the social media age where things can be misconstrued and over analyzed, not really much to gain by calling anyone out. The people who agree still agree and the ones who don't or are oblivious will just have a negative opinion now.
While I agree that at times calling something out is warranted and exciting when both parties are involved, not sure anything was gained in this instance.
Anyone who knows is aware of all you did at the spot and the similar aesthetic of the ad layouts, and those guys know it's borderline ripoff.
Everyone else is admiring a well done trick at a classic spot by a current talented skater that most people think favorably about.
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wow, people are really having a serious discussion regarding the malicious plagiarization of a skateboard trick. and it's not even the same trick.
some of these analyses are feeling a little like this:
Seinfeld - The Magic Loogie, Reconstructed (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBz3PqA2Fmc#)
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Dumb.
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Guess Kalis is the only person allowed to shoot photos at landmarks.. What about when you propped up a tile to skate over a can? Did you get permission from Ricky? I'm dumbfounded on how anyone could be bummed on this.
You see.... Some people just don't get it. No disrespect to you.... But again.... Your looking at it at face value. I'm done. If you get you get it... If not hopefully you will someday.
yeah it's pretty lame they did it as a shoe ad, but i was surprised he even did the trick though, isn't love park a complete bust now? and weren't they going to put in grass instead of concrete?
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^^nigga have u been living in a ditch for the past 10-15 years?
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^^nigga have u been living in a ditch for the past 10-15 years?
nah, i don't know what the fuck is happening in this thread, i'm just throwing some bullshit into the crock pot.
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I don't even know what's happening in this thread :'(
Next thing we know, Karl is gunna be hating on other skaters cuz they pretzel-ed out of a ledge trick
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is that berra in the middle? lol.
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at least it was suciu and not some other chump
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Suciu knew exactly what he was doing with the trick/spot/photo. He is all about acknowlaging his favorite skaters.
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backside is harder and looks better
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I'm backing Kalis on this one.
It's not the trick, it's the pretty blatant art-direction rip off. It raises the question - does Adidas have art dudes who would know they're biting a classic ad? Or was it an accident? Either way, not really cool of Adidas.
It's not like Kalis put everyone on blast, he just pointed out that Adidas should step their game up. A totally reasonable call I think.
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Haha, give me a break Kalis.
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It's not the trick, it's the pretty blatant art-direction rip off. It raises the question - does Adidas have art dudes who would know they're biting a classic ad? Or was it an accident?
I doubt it ... Either way it seems kinda petty to me, I guess I don't "get" it :'(
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Remember when Kalis rode for adidas?
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It's not the trick, it's the pretty blatant art-direction rip off. It raises the question - does Adidas have art dudes who would know they're biting a classic ad? Or was it an accident?
I doubt it ... Either way it seems kinda petty to me, I guess I don't "get" it :'(
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Remember when Kalis rode for adidas?
(http://i.imgur.com/iaBico2.jpg?1) (http://imgur.com/iaBico2)
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Speaking of rip-offs, who's vision was it to prop up a tile and go over a can at Love?
(http://assets.vice.com/content-images/contentimage/no-slug/dc8148f1acda2fe72c4e8182925c6ca5.jpg)
It's the first skate photo that pops up on a Google image search... come up with your own ideas, indeed.
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yeah, this is pretty petty and stupid, but the only thing i want to say is if Kalis doesn't have any Love footage in Sabotage 4, imma be so freakin mad
>:(
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I'm backing Kalis on this one.
It's not the trick, it's the pretty blatant art-direction rip off. It raises the question - does Adidas have art dudes who would know they're biting a classic ad? Or was it an accident? Either way, not really cool of Adidas.
It's not like Kalis put everyone on blast, he just pointed out that Adidas should step their game up. A totally reasonable call I think.
I wouldn't even call it a rip off. For starters, Suciu's trick is at night, shot in color and is fisheye. Kalis's was long lens, black and white and during the day. It's completely a nod to him and nothing else. Imagine Frank Gerwer posting on Instagram or Facebook photos of Forrest switch flipping Wallenberg and say the same thing. It would be like WTF?! I'm sure everyone would have been way more hyped to see a Kalis post setting positive, like "damn, it's sick to see new cats ripping love, etc etc.." Instead he shows his ass.
Regardless, hyped for Suciu and his first shoe. It looks like a winner and he seems very humble.
Kalis is still an OG and hopefully he drops atleast one more memorable part.
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Awesome. Been at the top of Slap's Useless Wooden Toy Banter 2 days now. Stoked!!
Love the grumpy old Men pic. Lol.
Love this shit.
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I think we should all kook Kalis until he focuses or he should give himself a ban and wear his pink I LOVE HATERS cap for a week.
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I'm under the impression that Kalis, especially after watching his Epicly Later'd, gets pretty butt-hurt fairly easily. Like if I was him, I wouldn't give a single fuck about some off-handed comment Jason Dill made...but dude gets so offended, he has to get Patrick to make him his own episode so he can "prove" to Dill that he was wrong. The fact that Kalis has been on Slap so much over the past tow days to know that this topic has been on the top of Useless Wooden Toy Banter for those two days is incriminatingly pathetic.
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I'm sure everyone would have been way more hyped to see a Kalis post setting positive, like "damn, it's sick to see new cats ripping love, etc etc.."
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Kooking Kalis. Trend watch 2016.
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I'm under the impression that Kalis, especially after watching his Epicly Later'd, gets pretty butt-hurt fairly easily. Like if I was him, I wouldn't give a single fuck about some off-handed comment Jason Dill made...but dude gets so offended, he has to get Patrick to make him his own episode so he can "prove" to Dill that he was wrong. The fact that Kalis has been on Slap so much over the past tow days to know that this topic has been on the top of Useless Wooden Toy Banter for those two days is incriminatingly pathetic.
I forget exactly what you're talking about, is it the "up river" debacle? Either way, Dill is full of shit. If you're taking his side over Kalis on anything, you are off your fucking tits.
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I await the full-length Vice-funded documentary/expose on this subject.
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Funny how sucui keeps popping up in these 'contrived' scenarios. I get where kalis is coming from, it's not just a 'who did x trick at y spot first' or a parody Natas board graphic... It's the fact that the new sucui ad is unoriginal and poser-ish. Copycatting is not a tribute and it's not a Powell skull holding a banana either. This is Adidas copying the DC advertising style like everyone forgot about it. And kalis helped build the DC empire so it's not like he's not gonna notice
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Actually Facebook posts on Slap are fucking stupid. Whoever started this thread is fucking dumb. Kalis has been with DC forever, look from his perspective...this is blatantly ripping off a DC ad layout, actually a poster layout. It's Josh Kalis's perspective, his post...You should recognize that starting a thread on this shit is fucking stupid not what his opinion is. You're taking everything way out of context. Seriously Adidas can just do an ad of the shoe and their logo, it's Adidas. Some of you need to keep scrolling and not take still frames of everything and make threads about it.
this is SLAP bitch! and you're a fucking moron for telling me what to post on here and what not to post on here. also he posted it on facebook where people can share their thoughts on this topic as well so why not bring it to SLAP= where Kalis posts. again its been said here there a number of factors that make it different from Kalis's DC ad.
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If this shit goes any farther than 5 pages I'll go burn Love to the ground I swear to god
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Sides?really?
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brown is an awful shoe colour
wouldn't know, i eat vegimite
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brown is an awful shoe colour
wouldn't know, i eat vegimite
ha alright but here in the land of pb n j we wear jeans
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If this shit goes any farther than 5 pages I'll go burn Love to the ground I swear to god
and then send kalis and suciu video of you at the junkyard crushing orange love park barriers into little cubes and then when its done grab it and say "SKATE THIS SHIT!" then throw it into a burning pile of kalis ads.
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I'm under the impression that Kalis, especially after watching his Epicly Later'd, gets pretty butt-hurt fairly easily. Like if I was him, I wouldn't give a single fuck about some off-handed comment Jason Dill made...but dude gets so offended, he has to get Patrick to make him his own episode so he can "prove" to Dill that he was wrong. The fact that Kalis has been on Slap so much over the past tow days to know that this topic has been on the top of Useless Wooden Toy Banter for those two days is incriminatingly pathetic.
I forget exactly what you're talking about, is it the "up river" debacle? Either way, Dill is full of shit. If you're taking his side over Kalis on anything, you are off your fucking tits.
They're both kooks, but Dill was right. Kalis' episode begins by him and Patrick going to his pretty big and nice house. Compare that expensive house in Cali to the little efficiency apartment Jason Dill lives in in his episode, there's a notable upriver and downriver dynamic there.
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I'm under the impression that Kalis, especially after watching his Epicly Later'd, gets pretty butt-hurt fairly easily. Like if I was him, I wouldn't give a single fuck about some off-handed comment Jason Dill made...but dude gets so offended, he has to get Patrick to make him his own episode so he can "prove" to Dill that he was wrong. The fact that Kalis has been on Slap so much over the past tow days to know that this topic has been on the top of Useless Wooden Toy Banter for those two days is incriminatingly pathetic.
I forget exactly what you're talking about, is it the "up river" debacle? Either way, Dill is full of shit. If you're taking his side over Kalis on anything, you are off your fucking tits.
They're both kooks, but Dill was right. Kalis' episode begins by him and Patrick going to his pretty big and nice house. Compare that expensive house in Cali to the little efficiency apartment Jason Dill lives in in his episode, there's a notable upriver and downriver dynamic there.
Nah, that was just him spitting blood on the walls and being arty. A decent apartment in NY probably costs a bomb.I can't really be fucked to get into it. Just the fact Dill is calling people out for being 'Up river' says it all really.
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What do you expect from someone that was crying about Grant Taylor not acknowledging him "properly"....... Kalis is becoming the Koston, rips on the board, but everytime he opens his mouth you just cringe and wish it never happened. Ricky is the king; you shook socal yuppie hoe.
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It be different if Kalis did that DC ad last month versus 10 plus years ago. If some random new riper would have done this same trick 20 years from now would you still be butt hurt Kalis? didn't think it ever come to this but.......
(http://i.imgur.com/32dzgW5.jpg?1) (http://imgur.com/32dzgW5)
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Kalis's right, on Internet everyone turns hater.
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Kalis's right, on Internet everyone turns hater.
Yeah Including Kalis....
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Kalis explains the story of this orange barrier on Weekend Buzz @18:20
https://youtu.be/KTIRtRqge_k
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Kalis explains the story of this orange barrier on Weekend Buzz @18:20
https://youtu.be/KTIRtRqge_k
Oh I see now, DGKALIS did say he blew it out therefore no other tricks can be done on that barrier. End of Thread. Case Closed. Suciu is in the wrong for sure.
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Haha this is mental.
I see where Kalis is coming from but im surprised he said(posted) anything about it.
Suicu is a beast
I actually think the ad idea is funny as fuck
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I understand kalis. Its like a corpo non skate company "stealing" a certain skate vibe created by skate rats and tries to capitalise on it without being part of this in the first place. However I hate corpos as much as I hate intellectual property. Coming to my mind corporations try to capitalize in things that are far more damaging for us, like monopolizing water and food so skate vibes are not exactly something I would bother with for now. Finally, this is the part where I say thats capitalism there is nothing sacred except profit, so suck it.
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Skateboarding would be so boring if you could never do tricks at the same spot other people have done tricks. Were they suppose to put a disclaimer that Josh Kalis has done a trick here before? Even after Kalis's explanation I still don't see why anyone should hate it. If anything he should be hyped that someone remembered his idea after 15 years. It's not like Adidas or Susci are making it seem like they were the first to skate it like that.
Think if someone nabbed an iconic trick from Macba or Rincon and then got an ad with it? The most recent example I can think of is Ryan Gallants kick flip nose blunt down clipper. What if a mag gave Cole a cover with a bluntside down clipper? I'm with Kalis, it's a dope pic but it's a already been done. Different trick yeah, is it a tribute sure, but can they come up with something different? Yes. It's easy to claim homage. It's also possible the Adidas art director doesn't know about the original. Another point is LOVE is so big with so many things to hit, it's kinda weird that he wouldn't try get something different. Does anyone else think a layout pic of a bs noseslide on the fountain ledge at the bottom would look sick? Much better than this to be honest.
He turned the noseblunt f/s to backside
15 years of progression
LOVE 4EVER
You ever been to LOVE?
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From a photography standpoint, I like the Suciu ad better. In photography, the brightest parts of the photo and the biggest thing in the photo naturally and instantly draw your eyes.
The Kalis ad with LOVE sculpture being in color as opposed to all black and white screams photoshop and is a tired gimmick used in wedding/amateur photography so sadly that detracts from the timelessness of this image and naturally draws the eye to it instead of the skateboarding happening next to it and is almost equal in size or even larger than Kalis is in the photo so the skating carries less weight visually.
I'm sure everyone has seen countless images photoshopped like this by now:
(http://pe-images.s3.amazonaws.com/photo-effects/selective-color/photoshop-selective-coloring-effect.jpg)
The Adidas layout is similar in some ways so the biggest crime the graphic design department at Adidas committed is plagiarizing that lower white space for text. I feel that incorporating a triangle for the text would have been more effective. Triangles also naturally draw the eye so a triangle below Suciu skating would draw you to his name/trick name and actually also act as an arrow to direct your gaze to the skateboarding above it.
Instead of saying "Introducing", the logo with the circles inside a triangle below the shoe they are trying to sell would again draw your eyes to it and direct your eyes like an arrow to the shoe above it.
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i cant be the only one who thinks including the love sign in a photo is a really fucking obvious idea...
or was skating a barrier off a ledge the Eureka! moment?
fuck. i say dumb shit too, and id be dumb not to respect kalis, but this is... dumb.
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Think if someone nabbed an iconic trick from Macba or Rincon and then got an ad with it? The most recent example I can think of is Ryan Gallants kick flip nose blunt down clipper. What if a mag gave Cole a cover with a bluntside down clipper? I'm with Kalis, it's a dope pic but it's a already been done. Different trick yeah, is it a tribute sure, but can they come up with something different? Yes. It's easy to claim homage. It's also possible the Adidas art director doesn't know about the original. Another point is LOVE is so big with so many things to hit, it's kinda weird that he wouldn't try get something different. Does anyone else think a layout pic of a bs noseslide on the fountain ledge at the bottom would look sick? Much better than this to be honest.
Nah. If someone did a proper kickflip b/s noseblunt down Clipper that was actually tweaked all the way, not that half-ass'd noseblunt Gallant did, then I think it's worthy of an ad or mag cover.
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I'm under the impression that Kalis, especially after watching his Epicly Later'd, gets pretty butt-hurt fairly easily. Like if I was him, I wouldn't give a single fuck about some off-handed comment Jason Dill made...but dude gets so offended, he has to get Patrick to make him his own episode so he can "prove" to Dill that he was wrong. The fact that Kalis has been on Slap so much over the past tow days to know that this topic has been on the top of Useless Wooden Toy Banter for those two days is incriminatingly pathetic.
I forget exactly what you're talking about, is it the "up river" debacle? Either way, Dill is full of shit. If you're taking his side over Kalis on anything, you are off your fucking tits.
They're both kooks, but Dill was right. Kalis' episode begins by him and Patrick going to his pretty big and nice house. Compare that expensive house in Cali to the little efficiency apartment Jason Dill lives in in his episode, there's a notable upriver and downriver dynamic there.
Nah, that was just him spitting blood on the walls and being arty. A decent apartment in NY probably costs a bomb.I can't really be fucked to get into it. Just the fact Dill is calling people out for being 'Up river' says it all really.
For what he had, he probably wasn't paying even 2 grand. New York isn't cheap, but its not to the point wear what he had cost 7 grand a month. Dill can say whatever he wants, so can Kalis. Too bad Kalis tends to say a lot about how butt hurt he is about people not giving a shit about his irrelevant skate career in 2015. DGK sucks.
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i can see both sides. i think it's sick that the vibe that kalis, stevie and dc put down is being carried forward for another generation but at the same time adidas could probably try distance it's marketing a little more or add something to it. getting called out doesn't seem that over the top and i don't see why it's so hard for people to get why kalis did it.
but if you look at something like zero's image and how much it's been recycled over the years, if your going to have a big impact your also gonna inspire others and get bit from time to time.
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i cant be the only one who thinks including the love sign in a photo is a really fucking obvious idea...
or was skating a barrier off a ledge the Eureka! moment?
fuck. i say dumb shit too, and id be dumb not to respect kalis, but this is... dumb.
I like the above statement.
It's not like the original DC ad broke any new ground advertising-wise. It was a big photo of a good trick with a picture of the shoe in the ad. I'm certain it was an idea destined to be repeated by another ad campaign because it wasn't that deep to begin with. DC has a history of great skaters and shoe innovations, but let's not think they were on the forefront of ad layouts.
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Haha why are people trying to make it sound like Adidas set this whole thing up? Some of you are acting like some marketing dude told Suciu to do this. Pretty sure he just skates there a lot and decided to do this as an ad. I doubt it was some scheme to target the skaters who'd remember the original ad. Some people are reading way too much into this shit, unless there's something Kalis knows that we don't then I still find all of this hate on Suciu/Adidas pretty stupid.
this. he was probably just skating at love and there happened to be a barrier. Maybe thought, "oh damn remember when people used to skate it like this back in the day?" then just shot a photo on it with the photographer. He has a mean bs noseblunt. Can't think of a better trick for that thing, and obviously the photo was gonna turn out amazing. It did, and they turned it in for an ad. That's probably pretty close to what actually happened, give or take a few details. Wasn't a diss to Kalis, probably wasn't a tribute. I bet it was just more of a nostalgia thing.
God. Who fucking cares. I just typed way too much.
The photographer (assuming he has seen some skate photos from the last 15 years) clearly based this composition on old photos which framed the Robert Indiana sculpture on one side and barrier on the other. Too bad he didn't hold the shutter open to illuminate more of the background.
The ad itself, like DC's pre-corporate standard layout, features an enlarged photo of the tilted shoe one one side, with a 3/4 page photo on the other. Also, the film edge is visible with the Fuji "RDP" code showing. DC ads always printed the film code, sometimes with the sprocket holes (35mm). This ad may have been shot with a digital camera with the film code added later--typically 120/220 rolls have numbered frames as well.
I think Chavo hit the nail on the head. It's more the image that Kalis is talking about. The main image is composed by the photographer and ultimately by the marketing person who does the edit for the add. Kalis added trick, barrier, and spot location, but it was the photographer (probably Blabac) who composed how the trick would be shown ultimately. I, personally like the DC add better, although Sucio's trick is fucking sick, I don't think the wide angle shot with the giant Adidas shoe on the side is a good look. Shit just seemed rushed and mediocre to me (and this is my preferred sweat-shop label when it comes to soccer related products). Therefore, if the marketing editor is going for the early DC look he sure is blowing it.
Props to Kalis for coming on slap and addressing some of this. Hopefully he doesn't get pulled in further to where we have to hear an extensive rant.
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I'm under the impression that Kalis, especially after watching his Epicly Later'd, gets pretty butt-hurt fairly easily. Like if I was him, I wouldn't give a single fuck about some off-handed comment Jason Dill made...but dude gets so offended, he has to get Patrick to make him his own episode so he can "prove" to Dill that he was wrong. The fact that Kalis has been on Slap so much over the past tow days to know that this topic has been on the top of Useless Wooden Toy Banter for those two days is incriminatingly pathetic.
I forget exactly what you're talking about, is it the "up river" debacle? Either way, Dill is full of shit. If you're taking his side over Kalis on anything, you are off your fucking tits.
They're both kooks, but Dill was right. Kalis' episode begins by him and Patrick going to his pretty big and nice house. Compare that expensive house in Cali to the little efficiency apartment Jason Dill lives in in his episode, there's a notable upriver and downriver dynamic there.
Nah, that was just him spitting blood on the walls and being arty. A decent apartment in NY probably costs a bomb.I can't really be fucked to get into it. Just the fact Dill is calling people out for being 'Up river' says it all really.
For what he had, he probably wasn't paying even 2 grand. New York isn't cheap, but its not to the point wear what he had cost 7 grand a month. Dill can say whatever he wants, so can Kalis. Too bad Kalis tends to say a lot about how butt hurt he is about people not giving a shit about his irrelevant skate career in 2015. DGK sucks.
Dude was living pretty lavish in his DITL episode. I am sure NY wasn't as expensive then but still, it's not like he didn't get hooked up.
Jason Dill - Day in the Life (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKIdPS-IruI#)
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I'm under the impression that Kalis, especially after watching his Epicly Later'd, gets pretty butt-hurt fairly easily. Like if I was him, I wouldn't give a single fuck about some off-handed comment Jason Dill made...but dude gets so offended, he has to get Patrick to make him his own episode so he can "prove" to Dill that he was wrong. The fact that Kalis has been on Slap so much over the past tow days to know that this topic has been on the top of Useless Wooden Toy Banter for those two days is incriminatingly pathetic.
I forget exactly what you're talking about, is it the "up river" debacle? Either way, Dill is full of shit. If you're taking his side over Kalis on anything, you are off your fucking tits.
They're both kooks, but Dill was right. Kalis' episode begins by him and Patrick going to his pretty big and nice house. Compare that expensive house in Cali to the little efficiency apartment Jason Dill lives in in his episode, there's a notable upriver and downriver dynamic there.
Nah, that was just him spitting blood on the walls and being arty. A decent apartment in NY probably costs a bomb.I can't really be fucked to get into it. Just the fact Dill is calling people out for being 'Up river' says it all really.
For what he had, he probably wasn't paying even 2 grand. New York isn't cheap, but its not to the point wear what he had cost 7 grand a month. Dill can say whatever he wants, so can Kalis. Too bad Kalis tends to say a lot about how butt hurt he is about people not giving a shit about his irrelevant skate career in 2015. DGK sucks.
Dude was living pretty lavish in his DITL episode. I am sure NY wasn't as expensive then but still, it's not like he didn't get hooked up.
Jason Dill - Day in the Life (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKIdPS-IruI#)
Yeah but by the time he said the shit about Kalis, he had blown all his money. Shit, even back when he was on The Osbournes, he was on the show because he had no place to stay and had no money. In that Crailtap profile about Strobeck, he makes the point that Dill is doing good because he has an apartment now.
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cant wait to see the footage where he grabs his crotch at the end of his line.....
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Haha why are people trying to make it sound like Adidas set this whole thing up? Some of you are acting like some marketing dude told Suciu to do this. Pretty sure he just skates there a lot and decided to do this as an ad. I doubt it was some scheme to target the skaters who'd remember the original ad. Some people are reading way too much into this shit, unless there's something Kalis knows that we don't then I still find all of this hate on Suciu/Adidas pretty stupid.
this. he was probably just skating at love and there happened to be a barrier. Maybe thought, "oh damn remember when people used to skate it like this back in the day?" then just shot a photo on it with the photographer. He has a mean bs noseblunt. Can't think of a better trick for that thing, and obviously the photo was gonna turn out amazing. It did, and they turned it in for an ad. That's probably pretty close to what actually happened, give or take a few details. Wasn't a diss to Kalis, probably wasn't a tribute. I bet it was just more of a nostalgia thing.
God. Who fucking cares. I just typed way too much.
The photographer (assuming he has seen some skate photos from the last 15 years) clearly based this composition on old photos which framed the Robert Indiana sculpture on one side and barrier on the other. Too bad he didn't hold the shutter open to illuminate more of the background.
The ad itself, like DC's pre-corporate standard layout, features an enlarged photo of the tilted shoe one one side, with a 3/4 page photo on the other. Also, the film edge is visible with the Fuji "RDP" code showing. DC ads always printed the film code, sometimes with the sprocket holes (35mm). This ad may have been shot with a digital camera with the film code added later--typically 120/220 rolls have numbered frames as well.
I think Chavo hit the nail on the head. It's more the image that Kalis is talking about. The main image is composed by the photographer and ultimately by the marketing person who does the edit for the add. Kalis added trick, barrier, and spot location, but it was the photographer (probably Blabac) who composed how the trick would be shown ultimately. I, personally like the DC add better, although Sucio's trick is fucking sick, I don't think the wide angle shot with the giant Adidas shoe on the side is a good look. Shit just seemed rushed and mediocre to me (and this is my preferred sweat-shop label when it comes to soccer related products). Therefore, if the marketing editor is going for the early DC look he sure is blowing it.
Props to Kalis for coming on slap and addressing some of this. Hopefully he doesn't get pulled in further to where we have to hear an extensive rant.
I'm good. I Enjoy reading the debate.
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I'm backing Kalis on this one.
It's not the trick, it's the pretty blatant art-direction rip off. It raises the question - does Adidas have art dudes who would know they're biting a classic ad? Or was it an accident? Either way, not really cool of Adidas.
It's not like Kalis put everyone on blast, he just pointed out that Adidas should step their game up. A totally reasonable call I think.
This ^
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If this shit goes any farther than 5 pages I'll go burn Love to the ground I swear to god
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I dont have time to read this whole thread rn, but if you think this just happened organically and it wasnt a contrived effort to "capture that 90's LOVE vibe", then you guys r just being silly. I'm with Kalis.
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What legacy Adidas has to skate? DC was sold by a big corporation, but made history in the 90s and helped build a solid identity to skateboarding. Adidas enters the market without historical reference, and wants to COPY the golden years of a skater as Kalis and a brand like DC?
The problem is not Suciu, or photo, but a corporation who can not create their own status in skate, have to imitate to create your identity.
Josh Kalis photo is a lot better. Its RAW.
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is that spray on chalkboard on there?
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I'm backing Kalis on this one.
It's not the trick, it's the (http://pretty blatant art-direction rip off). It raises the question - does Adidas have art dudes who would know they're biting a classic ad? Or was it an accident? Either way, not really cool of Adidas.
It's not like Kalis put everyone on blast, he just pointed out that Adidas should step their game up. A totally reasonable call I think.
This ^
I think it's great that Adidas ran the ad and I'm sure their art guys are well aware of the Love park history. BUT, this is not a rip off in "art-direction". Congrats to Josh for coming up with the genius idea but dragging a barrier to Love is not art direction. If anything, give the Adidas team some credit. They got Josh Kalis from DC to post their Adidas ad on his Facebook and share it with everyone. Now THAT is smart.
To say that it's a blatant rip off you would have to do the same trick, shoot it from the same angle and apply the same color treatment if you really want to take it all the way. Everyone knows this is not the first time Suciu skates love park. Even the barrier looks slanted. Not similar at all.
(http://skately.com/img/library/print/large/dc-shoes-kalis-verdict-model-2002.jpg)
(http://skately.com/img/library/print/large/dc-shoes-defying-conventions-2011.jpg)
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I'm backing Kalis on this one.
It's not the trick, it's the (http://pretty blatant art-direction rip off). It raises the question - does Adidas have art dudes who would know they're biting a classic ad? Or was it an accident? Either way, not really cool of Adidas.
It's not like Kalis put everyone on blast, he just pointed out that Adidas should step their game up. A totally reasonable call I think.
This ^
I think it's great that Adidas ran the ad and I'm sure their art guys are well aware of the Love park history. BUT, this is not a rip off in "art-direction". Congrats to Josh for coming up with the genius idea but dragging a barrier to Love is not art direction. If anything, give the Adidas team some credit. They got Josh Kalis from DC to post their Adidas ad on his Facebook and share it with everyone. Now THAT is smart.
To say that it's a blatant rip off you would have to do the same trick, shoot it from the same angle and apply the same color treatment if you really want to take it all the way. Everyone knows this is not the first time Suciu skates love park. Even the barrier looks slanted. Not similar at all.
(http://skately.com/img/library/print/large/dc-shoes-kalis-verdict-model-2002.jpg)
(http://skately.com/img/library/print/large/dc-shoes-defying-conventions-2011.jpg)
That DC ad still has one of the best noseblunts ever pictured. I have some old mags with a double page spread of it somewhere at my parents house (Sidewalk or Transworld iirc) but I would love to have a poster of this shit.
With regards to this debate:
Apart from the fact that it's Addidas, which certainly don't have a history in skateboarding and I can't help but wonder cynically if this is (as others have said) purely just a marketing attempt at capturing that nostalgic 90's-Early 2000's vibe. Either way it's not going to convince me to buy any of their shoes. Sick noseblunt though.
(http://htts://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ussCHoQttyQ[/url)
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Angelides was an eternal flow?
He was paid by adidas?
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How long does a company have to be in skateboarding to be considered legitimate?� Adidas has supported Mark Gonzales for nearly 20 years (and even sponsored Kalis back in the early-mid 90s) which is just about the amount of time DC has been corny and farming itself out to things like motocross, car racing and mall shops.
That is what I am saying. DC is hardly Lakai or other more core brands. I considered them as one of the giants right next to Adidas and Nike where their riders were making a great living off of it. I figured that was where most of Dyrdek's money was coming from even before Rob and Big.
Adidas has been making shoes for riders for a long time but no one really gave a crap till they did it right in the past years. I remember seeing their shoes in CCS catalogs with like 2 models. Sucui nor Adidas should really be given flack for this. Like people said before, the art direction is the only bad thing I can seem but I don't think it's worth this much attention.
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How you want to build a story on skateboard sponsoring just one dude?
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^wow. great point. thanks for another stellar contribution
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How you want to build a story on skateboard sponsoring just one dude?
I'm not contributing, kook. You will be now just ignored.
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How you want to build a story on skateboard sponsoring just one dude?
I'm not contributing, kook. You will be now just ignored.
lol i dont even
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amazing
I fucking lost it.
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I'm under the impression that Kalis, especially after watching his Epicly Later'd, gets pretty butt-hurt fairly easily. Like if I was him, I wouldn't give a single fuck about some off-handed comment Jason Dill made...but dude gets so offended, he has to get Patrick to make him his own episode so he can "prove" to Dill that he was wrong. The fact that Kalis has been on Slap so much over the past tow days to know that this topic has been on the top of Useless Wooden Toy Banter for those two days is incriminatingly pathetic.
I forget exactly what you're talking about, is it the "up river" debacle? Either way, Dill is full of shit. If you're taking his side over Kalis on anything, you are off your fucking tits.
They're both kooks, but Dill was right. Kalis' episode begins by him and Patrick going to his pretty big and nice house. Compare that expensive house in Cali to the little efficiency apartment Jason Dill lives in in his episode, there's a notable upriver and downriver dynamic there.
Nah, that was just him spitting blood on the walls and being arty. A decent apartment in NY probably costs a bomb.I can't really be fucked to get into it. Just the fact Dill is calling people out for being 'Up river' says it all really.
For what he had, he probably wasn't paying even 2 grand. New York isn't cheap, but its not to the point wear what he had cost 7 grand a month. Dill can say whatever he wants, so can Kalis. Too bad Kalis tends to say a lot about how butt hurt he is about people not giving a shit about his irrelevant skate career in 2015. DGK sucks.
Dude was living pretty lavish in his DITL episode. I am sure NY wasn't as expensive then but still, it's not like he didn't get hooked up.
Jason Dill - Day in the Life (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKIdPS-IruI#)
dude is such a cringe worthy try hard i swear. every single interview and encounter with him personally is insufferable but the media made him out to be some savant persona. nobody remembers the osbornes? kookville cameos.
i go get my coffee at staaaaaarbucks, i like cold but i'll get hot. quoted that new york died because of chains. load fart sound.
3 tricks on VANS. 3 fucking tricks with a dash snow biter pro model shoe. fuck this generation.
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You're really gonna pretend that Dill only had three tricks in Propeller because he didn't film enough? Where you been?
Anthony Van Engelen's "Propeller" RAW FILES (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90G9DEL5jkA#)
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bringing outside plastic TEMPORARY bjects to inner city street plazas is also questionable may as well be a jump ramp. it's not endemic! the cans, and the tiles, are endemic. also, how else are you supposed to shoot that shot?!? anything significant done at love deserves to have the contextual backdrop.
the saddest thing is that colorway as an intro shoe is garbation.
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You're really gonna pretend that Dill only had three tricks in Propeller because he didn't film enough? Where you been?
Anthony Van Engelen's "Propeller" RAW FILES (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90G9DEL5jkA#)
you're right, but you can't front that while surprising to see after 3 tricks ended up in the final cut, most did not deserve to be in the video of that magnitude. Supreme, FA etc, possible.
If you're running a pro model shoe, can definitely still put out clips (cherry) and 3 tricks are used for your section from a lucrative sponsor, it warrants calling out.
i'm mainly fixating on personality, its forced "bohemian" i'm old enough to see through it all.
o'conners show with olson was talking about him frequently doing "art" things when the cameras were rolling, feeding into it. it's a job but isn't this all about what's real and what's contrived?
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You're really gonna pretend that Dill only had three tricks in Propeller because he didn't film enough? Where you been?
Anthony Van Engelen's "Propeller" RAW FILES (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90G9DEL5jkA#)
Kalis in one week produce more clips than thats Dill garbage.
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You're really gonna pretend that Dill only had three tricks in Propeller because he didn't film enough? Where you been?
Anthony Van Engelen's "Propeller" RAW FILES (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90G9DEL5jkA#)
Kalis in one week produce more clips than thats Dill garbage.
And another point, Dill didn't even have enough footage for his own B-sides.
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Bump this thread after Nutter is done wrecking Love and no one is getting anything there. Monthly advertising content isn't about originality. Appreciate the style, or don't. Even your most bestest tricks ever only last for a moment, then you are rolling away and its just your memory.
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You're really gonna pretend that Dill only had three tricks in Propeller because he didn't film enough? Where you been?
Anthony Van Engelen's "Propeller" RAW FILES (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90G9DEL5jkA#)
Thanks alot posting that asshole. I just wanted to have a nice quiet evening at home getting drunk and watching househunters. Now i gotta go skate.
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If this shit goes any farther than 5 pages I'll go burn Love to the ground I swear to god
Only posting to make sure this happens.
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Kevin Taylor did the backblunt right ?
Come on'... Mark did this to be legit from an history point of view, no need to be butthurt.
Kalis you upriver on that one bwa.
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Kevin Taylor (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tzcuHcDI18#)
Ok just checked, it's on two picnic table somewhere. But still, remember that one way more than Kalis frontblunt.
Kalis, still love you bwa. Yes hetero.
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It official... Kails hates The Gonz.
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So is this guy gunna burn down love or what?
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So is this guy gunna burn down love or what?
"this guy" ???
Be respectful about Kalis, he's not just "this guy", okay ? I'm french canadian and I know better than you about respect and politics you person. Learn bwa. Just learn.
SLAP is reborn.
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So is this guy gunna burn down love or what?
"local man arrested for setting fire to love park, more on this achievement at 11:00."
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So is this guy gunna burn down love or what?
"this guy" ???
Be respectful about Kalis, he's not just "this guy", okay ? I'm french canadian and I know better than you about respect and politics you person. Learn bwa. Just learn.
SLAP is reborn.
if anyone but kale-less does a fakie bs nosegrind at... love then it's a full-on... assault... can you seriously do that trick at that spot and not expect some retaliation?... kaliss fakie bs nose...grinded all that needed to be fakie bs nosegrinded... and... that's... that. c'...mon guys...
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case... closed... kalis... out...
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Actually Facebook posts on Slap are fucking stupid. Whoever started this thread is fucking dumb. Kalis has been with DC forever, look from his perspective...this is blatantly ripping off a DC ad layout, actually a poster layout. It's Josh Kalis's perspective, his post...You should recognize that starting a thread on this shit is fucking stupid not what his opinion is. You're taking everything way out of context. Seriously Adidas can just do an ad of the shoe and their logo, it's Adidas. Some of you need to keep scrolling and not take still frames of everything and make threads about it.
this is SLAP bitch! and you're a fucking moron for telling me what to post on here and what not to post on here. also he posted it on facebook where people can share their thoughts on this topic as well so why not bring it to SLAP= where Kalis posts. again its been said here there a number of factors that make it different from Kalis's DC ad.
Jeeze dude don't get all bent out of shape. You got a lot of balls posting this shit thats all. I wouldn't haha.
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it's like that shitty dagwood newspaper comic, kalis! like every sentence you type is emphasized! but the opposite! like you're dragging shit out! like you're afraid to come to conclusions! or that's just my opinion... but for serious if you wanna do fakie five ohhh front foot impossibles for the rest of your life go for it dog... go jump over some barrels again if you wanna be relevant again... but i'm just gonna sashay my way outta here without saying much... go tre flip noseblunt something for those checks...
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This thread is so up river.
vimeo.com/92298702 (http://vimeo.com/92298702)
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Actually Facebook posts on Slap are fucking stupid. Whoever started this thread is fucking dumb. Kalis has been with DC forever, look from his perspective...this is blatantly ripping off a DC ad layout, actually a poster layout. It's Josh Kalis's perspective, his post...You should recognize that starting a thread on this shit is fucking stupid not what his opinion is. You're taking everything way out of context. Seriously Adidas can just do an ad of the shoe and their logo, it's Adidas. Some of you need to keep scrolling and not take still frames of everything and make threads about it.
this is SLAP bitch! and you're a fucking moron for telling me what to post on here and what not to post on here. also he posted it on facebook where people can share their thoughts on this topic as well so why not bring it to SLAP= where Kalis posts. again its been said here there a number of factors that make it different from Kalis's DC ad.
Jeeze dude don't get all bent out of shape. You got a lot of balls posting this shit thats all. I wouldn't haha.
his lot of balls need to be embraced and encouraged. just like 'shit for brains' [i think] has to stand by his word and burn love down. then his balls have to be embraced for destroying history.
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some of you dudes defending kalis
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Actually Facebook posts on Slap are fucking stupid. Whoever started this thread is fucking dumb. Kalis has been with DC forever, look from his perspective...this is blatantly ripping off a DC ad layout, actually a poster layout. It's Josh Kalis's perspective, his post...You should recognize that starting a thread on this shit is fucking stupid not what his opinion is. You're taking everything way out of context. Seriously Adidas can just do an ad of the shoe and their logo, it's Adidas. Some of you need to keep scrolling and not take still frames of everything and make threads about it.
this is SLAP bitch! and you're a fucking moron for telling me what to post on here and what not to post on here. also he posted it on facebook where people can share their thoughts on this topic as well so why not bring it to SLAP= where Kalis posts. again its been said here there a number of factors that make it different from Kalis's DC ad.
Jeeze dude don't get all bent out of shape. You got a lot of balls posting this shit thats all. I wouldn't haha.
too bad you can't kook someone twice within 24 hours
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Too bad Slap forum is hanging on a thread and (no pun) and you and others are posting content from Facebook and Instagram. Let's direct more traffic off the boards and repost shit from social media. I understand your reasoning with posting this but arguing with me is annoying.
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Too bad Slap forum is hanging on a thread and (no pun) and you and others are posting content from Facebook and Instagram. Let's direct more traffic off the boards and repost shit from social media. I understand your reasoning with posting this but arguing with me is annoying.
YOU STARTED IT BITCH AND IM GONNA FINISH IT ;D 8)
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Biting Natas with that dog.
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This thread is so up river.
vimeo.com/92298702 (http://vimeo.com/92298702)
jajajajajaja
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That DC ad still has one of the best noseblunts ever pictured. I have some old mags with a double page spread of it somewhere at my parents house (Sidewalk or Transworld iirc) but I would love to have a poster of this shit.
With regards to this debate:
Apart from the fact that it's Addidas, which certainly don't have a history in skateboarding and I can't help but wonder cynically if this is (as others have said) purely just a marketing attempt at capturing that nostalgic 90's-Early 2000's vibe. Either way it's not going to convince me to buy any of their shoes. Sick noseblunt though.
(http://htts://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ussCHoQttyQ[/url)
I wouldn't mind one either, I'm gonna reach out to Blabac and see what I can find out. Aika Collective (http://aikacollective.com) doesn't have any of his photos oddly enough.
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Kalis I got a bottle with your name all over it this morning buddy. Cheers!
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(http://skately.com/img/library/print/large/adidas-skateboarding-busenitz-ollie-2009.jpg)
(http://skately.com/img/library/print/large/adidas-skateboarding-busenitz-vulc-2014.jpg)
These are from last year, but this is the ad format I feel Adidas is best at/known for. I just saw one of the Adidas X Spitfire ads in this months Thrasher and it was similar to these.
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(http://skately.com/img/library/print/large/adidas-skateboarding-busenitz-ollie-2009.jpg)
(http://skately.com/img/library/print/large/adidas-skateboarding-busenitz-vulc-2014.jpg)
These are from last year, but this is the ad format I feel Adidas is best at/known for. I just saw one of the Adidas X Spitfire ads in this months Thrasher and it was similar to these.
Busenitz biting Busenitz?! When will it end?!?!?
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Kalis I got a bottle with your name all over it this morning buddy. Cheers!
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That bottle is such a biter!!! using a name that Kalis used first!
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lol
people actually talking down to Kalis...
Josh..........Kalis ffs
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The Philadelphia Experiment (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ykQ8Bk6it8#)
Philadelphia with Mark Suciu (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=redN-JcM0Fc#)
Mark Suciu- Raw Clips From Sabotage3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMrYvnqR4DM#)
(http://skately.com/img/library/print/large/habitat-skateboards-mark-suciu-2013.jpg)
(http://skately.com/img/library/print/large/adidas-skateboarding-mark-suciu-2013.jpg)
also, LOVE forever belongs to:
F.G. - Real Life (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5acRnxmjPeM#)
Matt Reason - Profiles (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4stuQAXgk_8#)
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Damn, 176 posts in 2 days...is this a thread record?? Unless the Chase Gabor screwdriver thread is still #1.
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I still remember when they'd have undercover cops come post up and grab the first kid they'd see skating. 9 out of 10 times, those undercover cops were wearing DC Kalis' that they got for free. Love Park will be gone in a year. At that point, all we can do is hope some good tricks have gone down before it's a wrap. Forget this one-upsman nonsense.
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Damn, 176 posts in 2 days...is this a thread record?? Unless the Chase Gabor screwdriver thread is still #1.
the Cherry thread might've been.
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Damn, 176 posts in 2 days...is this a thread record?? Unless the Chase Gabor screwdriver thread is still #1.
the Cherry thread might've been.
^^^This stokes and bums me out at the same time
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I still remember when they'd have undercover cops come post up and grab the first kid they'd see skating. 9 out of 10 times, those undercover cops were wearing DC Kalis' that they got for free. Love Park will be gone in a year. At that point, all we can do is hope some good tricks have gone down before it's a wrap. Forget this one-upsman nonsense.
Are you suggesting that Kalis was working with the police?!
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If kalis never posted this, I would have never been aware of these shoes. the chances of me buying these shoes are lot higher than buying any DC.
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I still remember when they'd have undercover cops come post up and grab the first kid they'd see skating. 9 out of 10 times, those undercover cops were wearing DC Kalis' that they got for free. Love Park will be gone in a year. At that point, all we can do is hope some good tricks have gone down before it's a wrap. Forget this one-upsman nonsense.
Are you suggesting that Kalis was working with the police?!
Are you kidding??
It's well known that he was instrumental in getting the place shut down behind the scenes
because he didn't want anyone biting any of the photos or footage he took there.
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Kalis can do no wrong in my eyes ,he's the illest, best 3 flip.
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I had a few 6 ply 7.25 or smaller if they had em haha Kalis AWS boards , they were too dope .
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If this shit goes any farther than 5 pages I'll go burn Love to the ground I swear to god
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(http://skately.com/img/library/print/large/adidas-skateboarding-busenitz-ollie-2009.jpg)
(http://skately.com/img/library/print/large/adidas-skateboarding-busenitz-vulc-2014.jpg)
These are from last year, but this is the ad format I feel Adidas is best at/known for. I just saw one of the Adidas X Spitfire ads in this months Thrasher and it was similar to these.
off note but holy shit busenitz kills it so hard, i still pissed i missed seeing him in person at soma.
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I'm backing Kalis on this one.
It's not the trick, it's the (http://pretty blatant art-direction rip off). It raises the question - does Adidas have art dudes who would know they're biting a classic ad? Or was it an accident? Either way, not really cool of Adidas.
It's not like Kalis put everyone on blast, he just pointed out that Adidas should step their game up. A totally reasonable call I think.
This ^
I think it's great that Adidas ran the ad and I'm sure their art guys are well aware of the Love park history. BUT, this is not a rip off in "art-direction". Congrats to Josh for coming up with the genius idea but dragging a barrier to Love is not art direction. If anything, give the Adidas team some credit. They got Josh Kalis from DC to post their Adidas ad on his Facebook and share it with everyone. Now THAT is smart.
To say that it's a blatant rip off you would have to do the same trick, shoot it from the same angle and apply the same color treatment if you really want to take it all the way. Everyone knows this is not the first time Suciu skates love park. Even the barrier looks slanted. Not similar at all.
One does not need to emulate every aspect of something in order to be a "rip off". This, however, does not seem to be the issue. Beyond creating a parody or tribute or fraud, Adidas's staff just seems to be lazy and creatively uninspiring. Every month the same magazines need to fill an issue with new advertisements (for years and years). This was another one of those months.
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the fuck did this thread make it past 2 pages? NBD, ABD, who cares.
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the fuck did this thread make it past 2 pages? NBD, ABD, who cares.
we all want to see shit for brains burn love to the ground especially kalis. josh has it in his will 'when i die break all my toys so nobody else can play w/ them' including his granite from LOVE. every post even if ostensibly 'anti kalis' serves his agenda of destroying the landmark spot so nobody can go bs where he went fs. never again like the hall of cost.
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I think it's great that Adidas ran the ad and I'm sure their art guys are well aware of the Love park history. BUT, this is not a rip off in "art-direction". Congrats to Josh for coming up with the genius idea but dragging a barrier to Love is not art direction. If anything, give the Adidas team some credit. They got Josh Kalis from DC to post their Adidas ad on his Facebook and share it with everyone. Now THAT is smart.
Adidas is winning here - competitor giving some free advertising.
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If we all know it's a homage, yet Kalis isn't feeling it...and he said his piece about it on here. How the fuck is this thread seven pages?
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Saw this on Brian Panebianco IG, now there's two of them... Kalis needs to take this fuckers down!
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https://instagram.com/p/5fNDm0OTr9/?taken-by=brian_panebianco
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Suciu definitetely wore it better
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(http://skately.com/img/library/print/large/adidas-skateboarding-busenitz-vulc-2014.jpg)
These are from last year, but this is the ad format I feel Adidas is best at/known for. I just saw one of the Adidas X Spitfire ads in this months Thrasher and it was similar to these.
Busenitz can do no wrong. Speaking of Kalis, I wish he had been invited to the Dime MTL Glory Challenge, that would've been sick just on principle.
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Isn't the upriver thing more about how you spend your money, than about how much money you have? Kalis likes jock shit, whereas Dill splurges semi-ironically on high fashion. Or am I totally off?
Thanks to social media we at least now know that Kalis is looking for admiration and approval as much as Dill is. I just wish Kalis had never signed on here. He always seems so petty, even if he is right. Which I don't think he is in this case. You dragged the barrier, did you? Who gives a fuck man. You have a great legacy, don't undermine it by overestimating it.
Can someone elaborate on the Love Park shut down conspiracy? IF there is anything to that then Kalis really is a monumental kook.
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Isn't the upriver thing more about how you spend your money, than about how much money you have? Kalis likes jock shit, whereas Dill splurges semi-ironically on high fashion. Or am I totally off?
Thanks to social media we at least now know that Kalis is looking for admiration and approval as much as Dill is. I just wish Kalis had never signed on here. He always seems so petty, even if he is right. Which I don't think he is in this case. You dragged the barrier, did you? Who gives a fuck man. You have a great legacy, don't undermine it by overestimating it.
Can someone elaborate on the Love Park shut down conspiracy? IF there is anything to that then Kalis really is a monumental kook.
I always took it as Dill referring to the differences in their lifestyles using Michigan terminology...upriver being more affluent suburbs past Detroit, downriver being the grittier lower class Michigan.
Cairo Foster and Kenny Reed were here for a little bit and wanted to move here. They were asked not to blow up the spot by doing so, so they left. It's a known thing certain undercover cops were wearing DC's. It was a pay-to-play scenario, plus to regulate the large numbers of out of towners and weekend warriors that would come skate.
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I was skating love the other day and Kalis happened to be there. When i was warming up i did a couple of tre flips and Kalis happened to see one of them and came over to me, picked me up and throw me out of love park and in to the street yelling "i am Kalis and only I can tre flip in love park" then he skated away crying with his cell phone in hand going to social media to let everyone no if his contribution to skateboarding many years back.
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I was skating love the other day and Kalis happened to be there. When i was warming up i did a couple of tre flips and Kalis happened to see one of them and came over to me, picked me up and throw me out of love park and in to the street yelling "i am Kalis and only I can tre flip in love park" then he skated away crying with his cell phone in hand going to social media to let everyone no if his contribution to skateboarding many years back.
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I always took it as Dill referring to the differences in their lifestyles using Michigan terminology...upriver being more affluent suburbs past Detroit, downriver being the grittier lower class Michigan.
Cairo Foster and Kenny Reed were here for a little bit and wanted to move here. They were asked not to blow up the spot by doing so, so they left. It's a known thing certain undercover cops were wearing DC's. It was a pay-to-play scenario, plus to regulate the large numbers of out of towners and weekend warriors that would come skate.
Smart move. Cairo might well have beat him to that front noseblunt ;D
So Kalis actually gave undercover cops shoes so locals could skate there?
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Isn't the upriver thing more about how you spend your money, than about how much money you have? Kalis likes jock shit, whereas Dill splurges semi-ironically on high fashion. Or am I totally off?
Thanks to social media we at least now know that Kalis is looking for admiration and approval as much as Dill is. I just wish Kalis had never signed on here. He always seems so petty, even if he is right. Which I don't think he is in this case. You dragged the barrier, did you? Who gives a fuck man. You have a great legacy, don't undermine it by overestimating it.
Can someone elaborate on the Love Park shut down conspiracy? IF there is anything to that then Kalis really is a monumental kook.
Actually it doesn't have anything to do with money, but more about who you surround yourself with.
Im not sure what you mean by "jock shit". That's funny to me.
Conspiracy to shut down Love?? Haha. Please. We tried to save that shit for years.... In return for that... 9 years later... The city sued me for 160thousand fucking dollars and denied all my attorney appeals... And straight extorted me. As soon as the city council man Nutter became mayor... He was on a mission to fuck me. And he did. It costs me 20k in attorneys for them to tell me... "Hey... This dudes got a hard on for you. It's gonna cost you way more to keep fighting them and they won't stop".
And yes... Paying off the skate task force was a way that we... We as in Stevie, KT, and all the locals could get a bit of a heads up before they came in and gripped people up.
This was when skaters where getting their ass beat and guns pulled on them. It was a bit more serious then. Nothing like getting hemmed up taken down to the concourse getting robbed and smacked up by the cops.
When the head cops accepted shoes as payment... It was on. That was for weekdays. I always went to nyc for the weekends.
FYI.... I wasn't there when Cairo and Kenny where there. But I remember hearing something about something. Had nothing to do with me. That may have been before I moved back.
When I lived there the second time... There were 15 or so pros that lived there... So it makes no sense someone would tell those dudes not to move there. Lol.
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Sued you for what???
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Actually it doesn't have anything to do with money, but more about who you surround yourself with.
Im not sure what you mean by "jock shit". That's funny to me.
Conspiracy to shut down Love?? Haha. Please. We tried to save that shit for years.... In return for that... 9 years later... The city sued me for 160thousand fucking dollars and denied all my attorney appeals... And straight extorted me. As soon as the city council man Nutter became mayor... He was on a mission to fuck me. And he did. It costs me 20k in attorneys for them to tell me... "Hey... This dudes got a hard on for you. It's gonna cost you way more to keep fighting them and they won't stop".
And yes... Paying off the skate task force was a way that we... We as in Stevie, KT, and all the locals could get a bit of a heads up before they came in and gripped people up.
This was when skaters where getting their ass beat and guns pulled on them. It was a bit more serious then. Nothing like getting hemmed up taken down to the concourse getting robbed and smacked up by the cops.
When the head cops accepted shoes as payment... It was on. That was for weekdays. I always went to nyc for the weekends.
FYI.... I wasn't there when Cairo and Kenny where there. But I remember hearing something about something. Had nothing to do with me. That may have been before I moved back.
When I lived there the second time... There were 15 or so pros that lived there... So it makes no sense someone would tell those dudes not to move there. Lol.
Alright DGKALIS you covered like 4 different topics here^^^ TL;DR
I'm lost now
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They claimed I paid no "city wage tax". It's a tax you have to pay when you live in Philly.
It was way past the 3 year statute... But my tax attorney I used in those days passed away a couple years before they came after me. So since I didn't have the original copies... I couldn't get them from him... And the city is the only entity that would have them... Thy said they didn't have them. Even though my fed and state were perfect.
Principal balance of 40k+penalties and interest=156k.
In the appeal... The judge was agreeing to re-paying the 40k as he saw no sign of malicious non pay... But the lady siting next to the Mayer was there and stood up and made a big fuss. They agreed (the judge and this lady) hat they would drop a percentage of the penalty. 117k owed. 3,100 a month for 3 years.
Fuckin sucked. I have 2 more payments.
He government there is so corrupt. Everything from dealing with them back in the day with DC offering the million after they said we could skate love if they got 100k a year, the. Denying... To the cops beating up skaters, to the way Mayer Street scandal on where he got the money to reduce Love with the planters and shit... To finally the bullshit in fight able case against me.
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Isn't the upriver thing more about how you spend your money, than about how much money you have? Kalis likes jock shit, whereas Dill splurges semi-ironically on high fashion. Or am I totally off?
Thanks to social media we at least now know that Kalis is looking for admiration and approval as much as Dill is. I just wish Kalis had never signed on here. He always seems so petty, even if he is right. Which I don't think he is in this case. You dragged the barrier, did you? Who gives a fuck man. You have a great legacy, don't undermine it by overestimating it.
Can someone elaborate on the Love Park shut down conspiracy? IF there is anything to that then Kalis really is a monumental kook.
Actually it doesn't have anything to do with money, but more about who you surround yourself with.
Im not sure what you mean by "jock shit". That's funny to me.
Conspiracy to shut down Love?? Haha. Please. We tried to save that shit for years.... In return for that... 9 years later... The city sued me for 160thousand fucking dollars and denied all my attorney appeals... And straight extorted me. As soon as the city council man Nutter became mayor... He was on a mission to fuck me. And he did. It costs me 20k in attorneys for them to tell me... "Hey... This dudes got a hard on for you. It's gonna cost you way more to keep fighting them and they won't stop".
And yes... Paying off the skate task force was a way that we... We as in Stevie, KT, and all the locals could get a bit of a heads up before they came in and gripped people up.
This was when skaters where getting their ass beat and guns pulled on them. It was a bit more serious then. Nothing like getting hemmed up taken down to the concourse getting robbed and smacked up by the cops.
When the head cops accepted shoes as payment... It was on. That was for weekdays. I always went to nyc for the weekends.
FYI.... I wasn't there when Cairo and Kenny where there. But I remember hearing something about something. Had nothing to do with me. That may have been before I moved back.
When I lived there the second time... There were 15 or so pros that lived there... So it makes no sense someone would tell those dudes not to move there. Lol.
I warned you about being sucked into a rant. This is not a full blown rant, but it looks like you are headed down that path. Don't know if this shit is river rafting but you better have a paddle homie because this Slap river is filled with piranhas all heading down river.
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Cairo Foster and Kenny Reed were here for a little bit and wanted to move here. They were asked not to blow up the spot by doing so, so they left. It's a known thing certain undercover cops were wearing DC's. It was a pay-to-play scenario, plus to regulate the large numbers of out of towners and weekend warriors that would come skate.
I wonder if cops would be more inclined to be bribed with Adidas shoes and gear instead of DC since Adidas has more of a universal appeal.
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Isn't the upriver thing more about how you spend your money, than about how much money you have? Kalis likes jock shit, whereas Dill splurges semi-ironically on high fashion. Or am I totally off?
Thanks to social media we at least now know that Kalis is looking for admiration and approval as much as Dill is. I just wish Kalis had never signed on here. He always seems so petty, even if he is right. Which I don't think he is in this case. You dragged the barrier, did you? Who gives a fuck man. You have a great legacy, don't undermine it by overestimating it.
Can someone elaborate on the Love Park shut down conspiracy? IF there is anything to that then Kalis really is a monumental kook.
Actually it doesn't have anything to do with money, but more about who you surround yourself with.
Im not sure what you mean by "jock shit". That's funny to me.
Conspiracy to shut down Love?? Haha. Please. We tried to save that shit for years.... In return for that... 9 years later... The city sued me for 160thousand fucking dollars and denied all my attorney appeals... And straight extorted me. As soon as the city council �man Nutter became mayor... He was on a mission to fuck me. And he did. It costs me 20k in attorneys for them to tell me... "Hey... This dudes got a hard on for you. It's gonna cost you way more to keep fighting them and they won't stop".
And yes... Paying off the skate task force was a way that we... We as in Stevie, KT, and all the locals could get a bit of a heads up before they came in and gripped people up.
This was when skaters where getting their ass beat and guns pulled on them. It was a bit more serious then. Nothing like getting hemmed up taken down to the concourse getting robbed and smacked up by the cops.
When the head cops accepted shoes as payment... It was on. That was for weekdays. I always went to nyc for the weekends.
FYI.... I wasn't there when Cairo and Kenny where there. But I remember hearing something about something. Had nothing to do with me. That may have been before I moved back.
When I lived there the second time... There were 15 or so pros that lived there... So it makes no sense someone would tell those dudes not to move there. Lol.
Hey I wasn't pretending to know what I'm talking about. I guess by jock I mean well-groomed, in a fast expensive car, mentioning how expensive his attorneys are.
That's cool you found a way with the cops. I had a pair of white leather DC's during that time. They fell apart within weeks but I loved those shoes. I can see why they would rob you for them.
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Isn't the upriver thing more about how you spend your money, than about how much money you have? Kalis likes jock shit, whereas Dill splurges semi-ironically on high fashion. Or am I totally off?
Thanks to social media we at least now know that Kalis is looking for admiration and approval as much as Dill is. I just wish Kalis had never signed on here. He always seems so petty, even if he is right. Which I don't think he is in this case. You dragged the barrier, did you? Who gives a fuck man. You have a great legacy, don't undermine it by overestimating it.
Can someone elaborate on the Love Park shut down conspiracy? IF there is anything to that then Kalis really is a monumental kook.
Actually it doesn't have anything to do with money, but more about who you surround yourself with.
Im not sure what you mean by "jock shit". That's funny to me.
Conspiracy to shut down Love?? Haha. Please. We tried to save that shit for years.... In return for that... 9 years later... The city sued me for 160thousand fucking dollars and denied all my attorney appeals... And straight extorted me. As soon as the city council man Nutter became mayor... He was on a mission to fuck me. And he did. It costs me 20k in attorneys for them to tell me... "Hey... This dudes got a hard on for you. It's gonna cost you way more to keep fighting them and they won't stop".
And yes... Paying off the skate task force was a way that we... We as in Stevie, KT, and all the locals could get a bit of a heads up before they came in and gripped people up.
This was when skaters where getting their ass beat and guns pulled on them. It was a bit more serious then. Nothing like getting hemmed up taken down to the concourse getting robbed and smacked up by the cops.
When the head cops accepted shoes as payment... It was on. That was for weekdays. I always went to nyc for the weekends.
FYI.... I wasn't there when Cairo and Kenny where there. But I remember hearing something about something. Had nothing to do with me. That may have been before I moved back.
When I lived there the second time... There were 15 or so pros that lived there... So it makes no sense someone would tell those dudes not to move there. Lol.
I warned you about being sucked into a rant. This is not a full blown rant, but it looks like you are headed down that path. Don't know if this shit is river rafting but you better have a paddle homie because this Slap river is filled with piranhas all heading down river.
Your reading this as a rant??
Nah. Just conversating.
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That really sucks man!
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That really sucks man!
crazy shit
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They claimed I paid no "city wage tax". It's a tax you have to pay when you live in Philly.
It was way past the 3 year statute... But my tax attorney I used in those days passed away a couple years before they came after me. So since I didn't have the original copies... I couldn't get them from him... And the city is the only entity that would have them... Thy said they didn't have them. Even though my fed and state were perfect.
Principal balance of 40k+penalties and interest=156k.
In the appeal... The judge was agreeing to re-paying the 40k as he saw no sign of malicious non pay... But the lady siting next to the Mayer was there and stood up and made a big fuss. They agreed (the judge and this lady) hat they would drop a percentage of the penalty. 117k owed. 3,100 a month for 3 years.
Fuckin sucked. I have 2 more payments.
He government there is so corrupt. Everything from dealing with them back in the day with DC offering the million after they said we could skate love if they got 100k a year, the. Denying... To the cops beating up skaters, to the way Mayer Street scandal on where he got the money to reduce Love with the planters and shit... To finally the bullshit in fight able case against me.
Damn, thats bullshit considering you were probably paying a sizable amount in basic property taxes at the time or inflated rent prices. Suck how cities can't see that places like love, pulaski, pier 7 and emb were culturally important because of skating, hopefully realizing this like with the Courthouse is a step in the right direction
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holy shit, kalis still making payments on that bs? that's the real tragedy of this thread. philly corrupt as fuck
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Kalis....come on guy! you want us to feel sympathy? 3k a month for the last 3 years yet you can afford a lambo and a pristine z28 1969 camaro. Yeah a doubt 3k was killing your pockets. Love was big part of your prime and is where I who live in the west coast first heard about you. For what the city is making you pay I'm sure you made more while blowing up love. My problem isn't with you its with the mentally that you want to call dibs on a certain obstacle and image on Love specially something that happened 15 years ago. If your hate isn't with Adidas ( which you rode for) or Suciu (who i think was just paying tribute) then its that you in some way feel disrespected in something that seems like more of dab versus a diss. I like that you tried to change the subject by saying Philly made me pay money that i forgot to pay so i own it. If Suciu hadn't done it somebody else would have done it in years to come and I'm sure somebody will eventually do it switch, but in no way is that disrespect its progression. So get out of the way and enjoy it instead.
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Kalis....come on guy! you want us to feel sympathy? 3k a month for the last 3 years yet you can afford a lambo and a pristine z28 1969 camaro. Yeah a doubt 3k was killing your pockets. Love was big part of your prime and is where I who live in the west coast first heard about you. For what the city is making you pay I'm sure you made more while blowing up love. My problem isn't with you its with the mentally that you want to call dibs on a certain obstacle and image on Love specially something that happened 15 years ago. If your hate isn't with Adidas ( which you rode for) or Suciu (who i think was just paying tribute) then its that you in some way feel disrespected in something that seems like more of dab versus a diss. I like that you tried to change the subject by saying Philly made me pay money that i forgot to pay so i own it. If Suciu hadn't done it somebody else would have done it in years to come and I'm sure somebody will eventually do it switch, but in no way is that disrespect its progression. So get out of the way and enjoy it instead.
$120,000 aint chump change buddy. that could cover his kid's college and then some. just cause he has some money doesn't mean that's not a lot to lose for some technicality.
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Kalis....come on guy! you want us to feel sympathy? 3k a month for the last 3 years yet you can afford a lambo and a pristine z28 1969 camaro. Yeah a doubt 3k was killing your pockets. Love was big part of your prime and is where I who live in the west coast first heard about you. For what the city is making you pay I'm sure you made more while blowing up love. My problem isn't with you its with the mentally that you want to call dibs on a certain obstacle and image on Love specially something that happened 15 years ago. If your hate isn't with Adidas ( which you rode for) or Suciu (who i think was just paying tribute) then its that you in some way feel disrespected in something that seems like more of dab versus a diss. I like that you tried to change the subject by saying Philly made me pay money that i forgot to pay so i own it. If Suciu hadn't done it somebody else would have done it in years to come and I'm sure somebody will eventually do it switch, but in no way is that disrespect its progression. So get out of the way and enjoy it instead.
I didn't change the subject.... Maybe if you read the actual thread you would see why it was brought up.
I rode for Addidas. Yes. But as soon as they wouldn't send me shell toes and tried pushing some random ass skate shoe on me, and used the warm up noseslide shot by some dude who had never shot skating before, then surprised me with the ad hanging up like a billboard at the trade show... And all the homies clowning me for it, I immediately quite. Lol.
Quit instigating. Have a decent conversation.
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(http://skately.com/img/library/print/large/adidas-skateboarding-busenitz-vulc-2014.jpg)
These are from last year, but this is the ad format I feel Adidas is best at/known for. I just saw one of the Adidas X Spitfire ads in this months Thrasher and it was similar to these.
Busenitz can do no wrong. Speaking of Kalis, I wish he had been invited to the Dime MTL Glory Challenge, that would've been sick just on principle.
i wonder if kalis is going to go to homeboys shoe release party at atlas on Saturday.
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(http://skately.com/img/library/print/large/adidas-skateboarding-busenitz-vulc-2014.jpg)
These are from last year, but this is the ad format I feel Adidas is best at/known for. I just saw one of the Adidas X Spitfire ads in this months Thrasher and it was similar to these.
Busenitz can do no wrong. Speaking of Kalis, I wish he had been invited to the Dime MTL Glory Challenge, that would've been sick just on principle.
To be fair i've seen him give Suciu props many times on here and in interviews. Remember him saying in small piece on thrasher he thought Suciu should be SOTY the year Ishod won it.
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Succiu is awesome. Kalis is awesome. The corporatization of skateboarding is awesome for whoever is getting paid because it. To quote a real skateboard hero, Shane Heyl, "get that while you can."
I'm going to go cry in my beer now.
This thread has driven me to despair.
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of... because of it...
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Fuck you must be making serious bank!!! Gallardo, jock car, porche, M5.. All money pits!!! Not to mention houses, family etc. $$$$$$
Can you send me an "I love haters" tee?
Thanks.
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I thought Koston backside noseblunt slid that orange monstrosity first.
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Fuck you must be making serious bank!!! Gallardo, jock car, porche, M5.. All money pits!!! Not to mention houses, family etc. $$$$$$
Can you send me an "I love haters" tee?
Thanks.
Wait.... You trying to say a twin turbo 69 Camaro that I built with my hands... All the fab work, the welding, the Athletics, ect... Is a jock car?? Lol.
Maybe the definition of Jock has changed or what the perception of jock is.
Curious as to what you think a "non jock" car is?
As far as your comment of "making bank" goes... I don't rely on one source of income. I have skate income. But there are much bigger things I've put in place so that I don't need to rely on skateboarding to finance my life.
That way I have the freedom to pick and choose what a associate myself with. No need to to represent something strictly for a check.
You may not know but I have been in "car world" about as long as I have been in skate world. So I understand both cultures. It's awesome to step out of one and into the other. Both compliment each other... And there is very little cross over so it allows me diversity.
It's too big of a world out there to be closed minded.
"Jock Car". Lol.
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I thought Koston backside noseblunt slid that orange monstrosity first.
Koston did it down the 6 at City Hall during Xgames. That was literally buck at the time. Probably still buck today. It was tall and gap out.
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Does the car world have the same sort of "my spot. my trick." philosophy? If you build a camaro and some guy built a similar camaro but he put green fuzzy dice in the mirror 7 years before, can he be like "great look at this fucking guy" or does nobody actually give a shit
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Fuck you must be making serious bank!!! Gallardo, jock car, porche, M5.. All money pits!!! Not to mention houses, family etc. $$$$$$
Can you send me an "I love haters" tee?
Thanks.
Wait.... You trying to say a twin turbo 69 Camaro that I built with my hands... All the fab work, the welding, the Athletics, ect... Is a jock car?? Lol.
Maybe the definition of Jock has changed or what the perception of jock is.
Curious as to what you think a "non jock" car is?
As far as your comment of "making bank" goes... I don't rely on one source of income. I have skate income. But there are much bigger things I've put in place so that I don't need to rely on skateboarding to finance my life.
That way I have the freedom to pick and choose what a associate myself with. No need to to represent something strictly for a check.
You may not know but I have been in "car world" about as long as I have been in skate world. So I understand both cultures. It's awesome to step out of one and into the other. Both compliment each other... And there is very little cross over so it allows me diversity.
It's too big of a world out there to be closed minded.
"Jock Car". Lol.
non jock car?.....let's start with my whip.....her name is Lola the Corolla......
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Does the car world have the same sort of "my spot. my trick." philosophy? If you build a camaro and some guy built a similar camaro but he put green fuzzy dice in the mirror 7 years before, can he be like "great look at this fucking guy" or does nobody actually give a shit
Oh wow.
I'm stoked to see that there's a pro skateboarder that knows how to weld even. Hats off man.
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Does the car world have the same sort of "my spot. my trick." philosophy? If you build a camaro and some guy built a similar camaro but he put green fuzzy dice in the mirror 7 years before, can he be like "great look at this fucking guy" or does nobody actually give a shit
Even though I'm sure your being sarcastic....
100% it applies.... Unless it's the same car company giving a nod to the past generation that they themselves created. Such as all the new retro cars.
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Is welding considered up river?
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Wow. Calm down playa. No need for an essay.
Josh Kalis or Jock Carlis... Hmmmmm...
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Am I the only one that remembers Bobby Puleo calling out Siccu for going around NYC poaching his style/cellar doors? I like all this tribute shit, but come on. Establish yourself as an original FIRST, then you can do all the paying homage stuff. And there is literally no comparison as far as style. Kalis is the style king, period. While Siccu might have one of the deepest bags of tricks, he is probably the most boring to watch.
JUST BE ORIGINAL!
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Is welding considered up river?
is black-smithing with a open flame down river?
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Kalis, can you understand the difference between quite and quit? Is that down river or jock?
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Fuck you must be making serious bank!!! Gallardo, jock car, porche, M5.. All money pits!!! Not to mention houses, family etc. $$$$$$
Can you send me an "I love haters" tee?
Thanks.
Wait.... You trying to say a twin turbo 69 Camaro that I built with my hands... All the fab work, the welding, the Athletics, ect... Is a jock car?? Lol.
Maybe the definition of Jock has changed or what the perception of jock is.
Curious as to what you think a "non jock" car is?
As far as your comment of "making bank" goes... I don't rely on one source of income. I have skate income. But there are much bigger things I've put in place so that I don't need to rely on skateboarding to finance my life.
That way I have the freedom to pick and choose what a associate myself with. No need to to represent something strictly for a check.
You may not know but I have been in "car world" about as long as I have been in skate world. So I understand both cultures. It's awesome to step out of one and into the other. Both compliment each other... And there is very little cross over so it allows me diversity.
It's too big of a world out there to be closed minded.
"Jock Car". Lol.
You owe zero explanation to anybody
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So you guys were getting a heads up about the cops coming... you make it sound like you weren't warning other people when it was going to happen? If so, that's fucked up.
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Wow. Slap really needs to get laid.
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wtf I swear this thread was 2 pages, like, yesterday
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Is welding considered up river?
Kalis get yo self a Knarly anvil, smite that shit!
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I heard Geoff Rowley is re-doing his new vans commercial and instead of lip sliding that rail, he goes to love park and noseblunts the barrier.
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I want to see a pic of the warm-up noseslide Kalis! It must have been pretty offensive to make you quit(e) Adidas. Sorry your friends clowned you and hurt your feelings. It's ok to be sensitive
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It was posted earlier in this thread.
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These are from last year, but this is the ad format I feel Adidas is best at/known for. I just saw one of the Adidas X Spitfire ads in this months Thrasher and it was similar to these.
Busenitz can do no wrong. Speaking of Kalis, I wish he had been invited to the Dime MTL Glory Challenge, that would've been sick just on principle.
There was never any beef with Suciu over this thing. Kalis explained the post was aimed at Adidas for not coming up with an original idea for an ad.
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Josh Kalis - Uprise Skateshop: Chicago's Finest on Vimeo (http://vimeo.com/16748354)
i heard Kalis got a job as the assistant principal at Roberto Clemente High School for a period of time just so he could get use the school's shop class budget to install the angle iron above the steps, oh, and also to give saturday detention to anyone else found skating there. word on the street is when the stay flaired tour came through, all those guys got marks on their permanent record.
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Am I the only one that remembers Bobby Puleo calling out Siccu for going around NYC poaching his style/cellar doors? I like all this tribute shit, but come on. Establish yourself as an original FIRST, then you can do all the paying homage stuff. And there is literally no comparison as far as style. Kalis is the style king, period. While Siccu might have one of the deepest bags of tricks, he is probably the most boring to watch.
JUST BE ORIGINAL!
No AssBandit you're not the only one who remembers so stop thinking that you're JUST BEING ORIGINAL!
Here's is Bobby's interview that regarding Suciu. Jeez, sources people!
http://chromeballincident.blogspot.com/2013/07/chrome-ball-interview-61-bobby-puleo.html (http://chromeballincident.blogspot.com/2013/07/chrome-ball-interview-61-bobby-puleo.html)
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Kalis....come on guy! you want us to feel sympathy? 3k a month for the last 3 years yet you can afford a lambo and a pristine z28 1969 camaro. Yeah a doubt 3k was killing your pockets. Love was big part of your prime and is where I who live in the west coast first heard about you. For what the city is making you pay I'm sure you made more while blowing up love. My problem isn't with you its with the mentally that you want to call dibs on a certain obstacle and image on Love specially something that happened 15 years ago. If your hate isn't with Adidas ( which you rode for) or Suciu (who i think was just paying tribute) then its that you in some way feel disrespected in something that seems like more of dab versus a diss. I like that you tried to change the subject by saying Philly made me pay money that i forgot to pay so i own it. If Suciu hadn't done it somebody else would have done it in years to come and I'm sure somebody will eventually do it switch, but in no way is that disrespect its progression. So get out of the way and enjoy it instead.
I didn't change the subject.... Maybe if you read the actual thread you would see why it was brought up.
I rode for Addidas. Yes. But as soon as they wouldn't send me shell toes and tried pushing some random ass skate shoe on me, and used the warm up noseslide shot by some dude who had never shot skating before, then surprised me with the ad hanging up like a billboard at the trade show... And all the homies clowning me for it, I immediately quite. Lol.
Quit instigating. Have a decent conversation.
lol, I remember seeing this add and thinking WTF? The whole thing just seemed odd - from the trick to the way it was shot. It's funny to hear that it was a warm-up trick, can't imagine what the regular trick was on that thing. Can't understand why they didn't hook you up with shell toes since these were the main ones people would skate in back in the day. At first Paolo and Mark wouldn't get shell toes either since they were trying to promote some "skate" type ones. Those in this add, though, looked pretty good. I remember having a pair for school but I wouldn't skate them because they felt too rigid on top.
PS: Has love burned down yet?
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just had a strange thought, what if chops just made up all those interviews? like picked a pro that is hard to get a hold of, writes up some questions to them and answers the questions himself in the style of puleo, clyde shingletoes, whoever. i'm not saying i believe that's what he does but maybe one of us could do that, fan fiction style or whatever. in a lot of cases i bet slappers parody would be more interesting than the pros real answers, kinda why big brother was better than any straight forward mag.
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just had a strange thought, what if chops just made up all those interviews? like picked a pro that is hard to get a hold of, writes up some questions to them and answers the questions himself in the style of puleo, clyde shingletoes, whoever. i'm not saying i believe that's what he does but maybe one of us could do that, fan fiction style or whatever. in a lot of cases i bet slappers parody would be more interesting than the pros real answers, kinda why big brother was better than any straight forward mag.
I felt like that's how it was with vov vurnquist, any response he gave seemed way more interesting then what Bob would actually say.
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just had a strange thought, what if chops just made up all those interviews? like picked a pro that is hard to get a hold of, writes up some questions to them and answers the questions himself in the style of puleo, clyde shingletoes, whoever. i'm not saying i believe that's what he does but maybe one of us could do that, fan fiction style or whatever. in a lot of cases i bet slappers parody would be more interesting than the pros real answers, kinda why big brother was better than any straight forward mag.
I felt like that's how it was with vov vurnquist, any response he gave seemed way more interesting then what Bob would actually say.
a well done false Berra interview would be priceless
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just had a strange thought, what if chops just made up all those interviews? like picked a pro that is hard to get a hold of, writes up some questions to them and answers the questions himself in the style of puleo, clyde shingletoes, whoever. i'm not saying i believe that's what he does but maybe one of us could do that, fan fiction style or whatever. in a lot of cases i bet slappers parody would be more interesting than the pros real answers, kinda why big brother was better than any straight forward mag.
If you still got the plastic jersey in your garage when I come down I wanna set it up for a noseblunt picture.
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If this shit goes any farther than 5 pages I'll go burn Love to the ground I swear to god
Alright Shit For Brains, in order to save your reputation, if this thread hits 10 pages then you're going to have to burn down FDR park along with LOVE
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Wow. Slap really needs to get laid.
for real
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Wow. Slap really needs to get laid.
or laid out, give'em the left hook or something.
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All Josh posted was a mild jab on Instagram towards Adidas about their unoriginal and similar ad. You are the ones who asked him why it bugs him.
Cant understand all the Kalis negativity in this thread but I can see why there are only a handful of pros interacting with SLAP.
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Nah. He called Mark out. But did it in a sneak diss way. So it was quite hoe-ish and I can see the hate.
And it is a jock car Josh. Same way people call dudes who mod Hondas "ricers"
I need a hater tee stat!!!
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I want to see a pic of the warm-up noseslide Kalis! It must have been pretty offensive to make you quit(e) Adidas. Sorry your friends clowned you and hurt your feelings. It's ok to be sensitive
(http://skately.com/img/library/print/large/adidas-skateboarding-josh-kalis-1996.jpg)
It was posted earlier in this thread.
the shoe looks dope but they really just thought, "naw don't use the good photos, just use the first thing you shot."
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"local pro skateboarder josh kalis was the last to be seen skating LOVE park this morning before it was torn down, we saw other locals trying to skate in there but they got arrested on sight by undercover cops that where seen wearing kalis pro model dc's, he filmed the last NBDS in love park history and started the demolition right after the last trick was filmed, and he said "NOW YA'LL CAN'T BITE MY SHIT!" as he tears down the ledges in a custom built speed society bulldozer, more on this story of revenge at 11:00 clock eastern standard time on philly news channel 3."
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I want to see a pic of the warm-up noseslide Kalis! It must have been pretty offensive to make you quit(e) Adidas. Sorry your friends clowned you and hurt your feelings. It's ok to be sensitive
(http://skately.com/img/library/print/large/adidas-skateboarding-josh-kalis-1996.jpg)
It was posted earlier in this thread.
May be DC can copy this classic ad and art direction? Settle the score.
I'm pretty sure Kalis said that Adidas sent a non-skate photographer to shoot this photo and that he didn't have a clue how to take photos of skating. Thus the end result was pretty crappy ;D
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"local pro skateboarder josh kalis was the last to be seen skating LOVE park this morning before it was torn down, we saw other locals trying to skate in there but they got arrested on sight by undercover cops that where seen wearing kalis pro model dc's, he filmed the last NBDS in love park history and started the demolition right after the last trick was filmed, and he said "NOW YA'LL CAN'T BITE MY SHIT!" as he tears down the ledges in a custom built speed society bulldozer, more on this story of revenge at 11:00 clock eastern standard time on philly news channel 3."
;D
Eye witnesses at the scene say they saw what looked liked to be Love Park legend Ricky Oyola standing in the shadows of the rubble whispering to himself, "Lotta walls, lotta fucking SHIT!"
Self-proclaimed 'King of the East Coast' Bobby Puleo is refusing to comment on the incident at this point claiming that he is too busy stockpiling early 00's I-path Grasshoppers and chasing down (French) spot rushers to insult them in front of their pregnant wives. We'll have more updates for you as soon as they arrive...
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damn what happened to this thread. everything was going well, kalis had the embarassment game on lockdown. now all these posters are acting so dumb that kalis seems like the level headed one? way to ruin it you guys
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damn what happened to this thread. everything was going well, kalis had the embarassment game on lockdown. now all these posters are acting so dumb that kalis seems like the level headed one? way to ruin it you guys
9 pages of glory hole dude. It's Slap.
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All Josh posted was a mild jab on Instagram towards Adidas about their unoriginal and similar ad. You are the ones who asked him why it bugs him.
Cant understand all the Kalis negativity in this thread but I can see why there are only a handful of pros interacting with SLAP.
My thoughts exactly.
Kalis said that he's friends with Mark too; it could've just been Kalis busting his balls a bit, but everyone just blew it out of proportion.
Kinda reminds me of when Koston and Leo had that "beef" a few years back and everyone on here was getting all riled up about it and hating on Koston for attacking Leo for no good reason, only to find out that the whole thing was just some inside joke between the two.
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I want to see a pic of the warm-up noseslide Kalis! It must have been pretty offensive to make you quit(e) Adidas. Sorry your friends clowned you and hurt your feelings. It's ok to be sensitive
(http://skately.com/img/library/print/large/adidas-skateboarding-josh-kalis-1996.jp)
It was posted earlier in this thread.
May be DC can copy this classic ad and art direction? Settle the score.
I'm pretty sure Kalis said that Adidas sent a non-skate photographer to shoot this photo and that he didn't have a clue how to take photos of skating. Thus the end result was pretty crappy ;D
that makes sense, also i would love if DC made a shoe with a really high side sole like that, i look the look of a even, high sidewall shoe but all the they make gets thicker at the back and higher, so insoles don't fit, then theu go and make the front smaller, so it's thin as a vulc and hurts, that's why i like shoes like the es accel, most vans even though they need to step their game up, and etnies marana for this reason. the look of the shoe i think is the best are shoes like the Fallen trooper model, it just feels more solid, but i'm making a kalis thread into a shoe thread right now so eh.
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Kalis, you must be pretty arrogant to think that Suciu and the photographer MUST have thought of your GREAT trick before shooting. I guess they had to have thought about something done who knows how long ago. Hell, Suciu is young and may have never seen it. Get over yourself. How many people have done a back tail on the ledges in a line at love? 100's? Boo hoo
That said, you're still one of my favorite skaters.
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All you scraps on here trying to hate on Kalis need to fuck off.
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My thoughts exactly.
Kalis said that he's friends with Mark too; it could've just been Kalis busting his balls a bit, but everyone just blew it out of proportion.
Kinda reminds me of when Koston and Leo had that "beef" a few years back and everyone on here was getting all riled up about it and hating on Koston for attacking Leo for no good reason, only to find out that the whole thing was just some inside joke between the two.
Need backstory on the Leo/Koston beef. What happened? I love when Mexicans and Asians start scrapping
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Leo wore a shirt that said 'fuck koston'
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Kalis, you must be pretty arrogant to think that Suciu and the photographer MUST have thought of your GREAT trick before shooting. I guess they had to have thought about something done who knows how long ago. Hell, Suciu is young and may have never seen it. Get over yourself. How many people have done a back tail on the ledges in a line at love? 100's? Boo hoo
That said, you're still one of my favorite skaters.
... Nothing in advertising/graphic design is done on accident. Are you Tracer? Is this a new account so you thought we couldn't find you? What pro hasn't seen the iconic photo that Blabac shot... Do you know even who that is?
All you scraps on here trying to hate on Kalis need to fuck off.
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I'll always be grateful for the anonymity of the internet.
I remember once it allowed me to chat with a professional skateboarder.
I used really strong words, called him a little bitch, told him he didn't know what he was talking about, challenged him to a dual, to the death no less, mocked his sexuality, told him I had done his sister in the anus, and then demanded he upload dick pics to prove his dick wasn't 3" long.
Yeah...I made him MY li'l bitch.
Shortly afterwards I saw this little bitch pro know-nothing out at a local spot. I was sitting there watching him skate and in my head I thought, "Oh man, that's that bitch I totally owned on SLAP." I wondered briefly if he'd ever know I was the guy who had embarrassed him in front of, basically, the whole world. Then I remembered there was know way he would ever know it was me, and I chuckled in my head.
Oh yeah.
Fuckin' bitch.
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The photographer ruined the photo with a fish eye and then they cover the LOVE symbol with a shoe. I can understand why Kalis would be pissed
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it was definitely deliberate but its not like theyre trying to create a full ad campaign around this concept. its a one-shot ad and anybody who pays even a little attention know's who did the barrier stuff first. no ones fooling anybody here. they're not coming after your legacy kalis. cool ur jets.
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It seems like most people posting just want a "fuck you" or a "thanks bro" from Kalis. About the facebook post, who gives a shit?
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It seems like most people posting just want a "fuck you" or a "thanks bro" from Kalis. About the facebook post, who gives a shit?
More importantly why the fuck do we have basically the same name? How have I never seen you on here before?
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The internet. Ruining the 90s for me, one painful stab at a time, since forever...
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im not up on the skate video game levels but if there was a barrier on the love park level of a game would tripping be called for?
either way i think this thread calls for a love park best trick compilation video post
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Kalis, you must be pretty arrogant to think that Suciu and the photographer MUST have thought of your GREAT trick before shooting. I guess they had to have thought about something done who knows how long ago. Hell, Suciu is young and may have never seen it. Get over yourself. How many people have done a back tail on the ledges in a line at love? 100's? Boo hoo
That said, you're still one of my favorite skaters.
The history of modern street skating is actually very short. It is likely that the skater, photographer, graphic designer, and art director all knew of the original source. Kalis's experience with the noseslide photoshoot (North Mission Beach?) was probably indicative of Adidas (skateboarding) until they hired Bryce Kanights as their marketing manager. Most corporate skate entities, after Nike SB's success, now hire skateboarders for their graphic design and marketing teams so that team riders only suffer a minimal amounts of "clowning".
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It seems like most people posting just want a "fuck you" or a "thanks bro" from Kalis. About the facebook post, who gives a shit?
More importantly why the fuck do we have basically the same name? How have I never seen you on here before?
Did both of you guys pick your name because of the movie where Kevin Bacon is a pedophile
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Just wanted to make sure everybody knows the new Suciu part is going up on transworld tonight at 8 pst, 11 east coast time.
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That dude from the company 1031 stole my trick at that temple manual spot. It was a pole jam to 50-50, and i actually made that spot. I rubbed bricked it and waxed it. I was just glad someone else skated it
edit: and also i know a skater that got an ender for his video part at a spot then took the wax off it so no one could show him up
east coast skaters are such pussies
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Just wanted to make sure everybody knows the new Suciu part is going up on transworld tonight at 8 pst, 11 east coast time.
Yo Kalis, Suciu said thanks by the way!
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So Kalis has copyright on any trick done on a barrier at Love Park?
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It seems like most people posting just want a "fuck you" or a "thanks bro" from Kalis. About the facebook post, who gives a shit?
More importantly why the fuck do we have basically the same name? How have I never seen you on here before?
Did both of you guys pick your name because of the movie where Kevin Bacon is a pedophile
I didnt know such a movie existed, is it any good?
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It's now on the front page of the berrics...go figure
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Kalis makes fun of anything that isn't one of his sponsors.
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So Kalis has copyright on any trick done on a barrier at Love Park?
no, but don't you dare do a no-comply in his presence
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Wiki has Kalis as the pioneer of plastic jersey barrier skating so I'd be pissed too.
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To be honest, the original photo is not groundbreaking photographic composition. If anything, it is a pretty obvious shot. Nor is a noseblunt on a jersey barrier specific to him. Kenny Reed did one in his 7 year glitch part (which is the same era), so is Kalis gonna complain about that? He's just being a little bitch. Rewatching his Epicly Later'd, he seems like a pretty dumb and immature dude who hasn't reconciled the fact that the majority of skateboarding doesn't recognize his skating as all that important. If you have to keep talking about how great you are, are you really that great?
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It seems like most people posting just want a "fuck you" or a "thanks bro" from Kalis. About the facebook post, who gives a shit?
More importantly why the fuck do we have basically the same name? How have I never seen you on here before?
Did both of you guys pick your name because of the movie where Kevin Bacon is a pedophile
I didnt know such a movie existed, is it any good?
LOL thats hilarious
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I think it's time for Kalis to grab Wenning and handle this Jay and Silent Bob style.
Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back - Kick Some Ass (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsXKAtpLm4I#)
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To be honest, the original photo is not groundbreaking photographic composition. If anything, it is a pretty obvious shot. Nor is a noseblunt on a jersey barrier specific to him. Kenny Reed did one in his 7 year glitch part (which is the same era), so is Kalis gonna complain about that? He's just being a little bitch. Rewatching his Epicly Later'd, he seems like a pretty dumb and immature dude who hasn't reconciled the fact that the majority of skateboarding doesn't recognize his skating as all that important. If you have to keep talking about how great you are, are you really that great?
Wow you got some stones calling Kalis out like that. He never claimed it was a "groundbreaking photographic composition." It was a blatant rip-off of what DC did years ago so for one shoe company, especially Adidas, to re-hash essentially the same ad is pretty crap.
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hating on suciu for skating love is also ABD by bobby..
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for fucks sake, so many of you are dense. he never hated on suciu for skating love... he was hating on adidas ad dept/direction
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I think it's time for Kalis to grab Wenning and handle this Jay and Silent Bob style.
Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back - Kick Some Ass (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsXKAtpLm4I#)
I used to have that song on my Mp3 player, don't think ipods were created then or i was just so fucking cool i didn't want to be like anyone else. Anyway that song used to get me so fucking pumped, thank you for reminding how awesome i was at a young age
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for fucks sake, so many of you are dense. he never hated on suciu for skating love... he was hating on adidas ad dept/direction
Correct, amazing how stupid people are
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I think it's time for Kalis to grab Wenning and handle this Jay and Silent Bob style.
Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back - Kick Some Ass (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsXKAtpLm4I#)
I used to have that song on my Mp3 player, don't think ipods were created then or i was just so fucking cool i didn't want to be like anyone else. Anyway that song used to get me so fucking pumped, thank you for reminding how awesome i was at a young age
some dipshit picked me and my ex up in chicago and drove us to cicero/hammond line. he played that song as well as the extended version of the intro to scrubs. he was a liar, you'd be surprised how many people try to sell wolf tickets to hitchhikers like we give a shit or believe them or whatever. dude had been to prison, europe, fought MMA, lost loved ones, been in the mob and prolly some other cockamamie stories borrowed offa tv. whatever, he was cool for picking us up in a giant metropolis, ain't nobody trying to give you a ride in cities.
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I'm just gonna say that Kalis should run the hoops again.
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for fucks sake, so many of you are dense. he never hated on suciu for skating love... he was hating on adidas ad dept/direction
Correct, amazing how stupid people are
So you guys are agreeing with Kalis? If so, how would you have liked the ad to be laid out/shot? Different angle? Don't include LOVE sign? Or should they have just ran a different trick at a different spot/part of LOVE altogether?
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nope, just clarifying for those who have a serious lack of reading comprehension
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Read this thread backwards....you'll be disappointed....
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for fucks sake, so many of you are dense. he never hated on suciu for skating love... he was hating on adidas ad dept/direction
Correct, amazing how stupid people are
So you guys are agreeing with Kalis? If so, how would you have liked the ad to be laid out/shot? Different angle? Don't include LOVE sign? Or should they have just ran a different trick at a different spot/part of LOVE altogether?
is this a joke? what the fuck?
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for fucks sake, so many of you are dense. he never hated on suciu for skating love... he was hating on adidas ad dept/direction
Correct, amazing how stupid people are
So you guys are agreeing with Kalis? If so, how would you have liked the ad to be laid out/shot? Different angle? Don't include LOVE sign? Or should they have just ran a different trick at a different spot/part of LOVE altogether?
How about having some art direction that shows some independent thought process?
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You don't have to try hard to incorporate the RI sculpture into a photo taken at LOVE, and I don't think showing the film code/edge in ads originated with DC.
I don't think the fact that Kalis had an ad skating the barrier in a similar way first means that adidas' ad department failed to use independent thought process. I mean, skating a barrier off of a ledge in 2002? It's really not that groundbreaking.
Both ads are using street skating to market their product. Both tricks are dope.
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You posted this and cut out Lenny?, come on now
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come on guys...
(http://i.imgur.com/2TEQYEX.jpg?2) (http://imgur.com/2TEQYEX)
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You posted this and cut out Lenny?, come on now
(https://imageshack.com/i/f0pUe21ej)
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Kalis ollied it like nothing and lenny is trying real hard haha
That just seems weird
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Kalis a sooky wigga always will be. Grow some brah, you just sour because the popularity/appreciation for your bubbly ass pro shoe is slowly but surely diminishing? The only time I'll see someone wearing a pair of DC's these days is rocking a grocery store wife beater and a pair of quicksilver board shorts... Don't you get sick of smelling your own shit on the daily??? Pull that head out :-*
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Kalis a sooky wigga always will be. Grow some brah, you just sour because the popularity/appreciation for your bubbly ass pro shoe is slowly but surely diminishing? The only time I'll see someone wearing a pair of DC's these days is rocking a grocery store wife beater and a pair of quicksilver board shorts... Don't you get sick of smelling your own shit on the daily??? Pull that head out :-*
ur grocery store sells beaters bro ur a loser. opinion doesnt count
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Josh Kalis can do no evil. He has a mean switch big heel too
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He's going at Nike again on IG. Shit is depressing.
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What Nike shoe is the other guy wearing? If they are Koston's, I want to see some IG beef brewing.
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What Nike shoe is the other guy wearing? If they are Koston's, I want to see some IG beef brewing.
Free SB's.
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What Nike shoe is the other guy wearing? If they are Koston's, I want to see some IG beef brewing.
Free SB's.
FREE MAX B'S SB'S
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Ahahahahahaha yes!
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What Nike shoe is the other guy wearing? If they are Koston's, I want to see some IG beef brewing.
Free SB's.
FREE MAX B'S SB'S
Nice!
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who cares Kalis is the poor mans Wade Desarmo.
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This thread has been a fun read. I'm a couple beers in and made it through the full 11 pages!
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Does the car world have the same sort of "my spot. my trick." philosophy? If you build a camaro and some guy built a similar camaro but he put green fuzzy dice in the mirror 7 years before, can he be like "great look at this fucking guy" or does nobody actually give a shit
Even though I'm sure your being sarcastic....
100% it applies.... Unless it's the same car company giving a nod to the past generation that they themselves created. Such as all the new retro cars.
lol, I read that post and couldn't help but laugh because it seems even more true in the car world, but maybe that's because I'm way deeper in the auto industry than skate side of things. It sounds silly but in the car scene, especially show scene, you never want to straight copy someone else's build on the same platform, and you will never be taken seriously if you do. Skateboarding is a little different in my eyes, but automotive and skateboard cultures have a lot of similarities.
Props on your cars, man, keep doing what you're doing. I've made a career out of the automotive aftermarket, really wish I could be tied into skateboarding side of things as well. Oh and hey, if you ever need wheels for one of the Bimmers, HMU! :P
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What Nike shoe is the other guy wearing? If they are Koston's, I want to see some IG beef brewing.
Free SB's.
FREE MAX B'S SB'S
How palindromic of you.
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What Nike shoe is the other guy wearing? If they are Koston's, I want to see some IG beef brewing.
Free SB's.
FREE MAX B'S SB'S
How palindromic of you.
More like palindramatic!
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To be honest, the original photo is not groundbreaking photographic composition. If anything, it is a pretty obvious shot. Nor is a noseblunt on a jersey barrier specific to him. Kenny Reed did one in his 7 year glitch part (which is the same era), so is Kalis gonna complain about that? He's just being a little bitch. Rewatching his Epicly Later'd, he seems like a pretty dumb and immature dude who hasn't reconciled the fact that the majority of skateboarding doesn't recognize his skating as all that important. If you have to keep talking about how great you are, are you really that great?
Its not about the trick or Kalis heritage. Its about big corp business.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NiuYBoIryU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NiuYBoIryU#)
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Kalis You know you'd jump ship to Nike if you were offered a deal, but I guess they're not looking for soft ass fuccbois who bitch and moan when their spot/trick gets ripped off, hah
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Kalis wont sign with nike.
Hes in hardcore tight with DC. Long after hes pro he'll still be on DC(which wouldnt happen with nike)
Plus they help him with his cars lol, and nike aint gonna do that.
Kalis is basically your underground dyrdek
Playin it smart, playing all sides, makin bank...
Only difference is he skates, and fuckin rips at that.
If you hate on kalis decisions your not an idiot.
The man is smart
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Kalis a sooky wigga always will be. Grow some brah, you just sour because the popularity/appreciation for your bubbly ass pro shoe is slowly but surely diminishing? The only time I'll see someone wearing a pair of DC's these days is rocking a grocery store wife beater and a pair of quicksilver board shorts... Don't you get sick of smelling your own shit on the daily??? Pull that head out :-*
ur grocery store sells beaters bro ur a loser. opinion doesnt count
This is the best thing I've read all day.
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Kalis You know you'd jump ship to Nike if you were offered a deal, but I guess they're not looking for soft ass fuccbois who bitch and moan when their spot/trick gets ripped off, hah
You should just delete your account now.