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Skateboarding => Shoes & Gear => Topic started by: alraunen on November 14, 2022, 08:40:12 AM
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https://instagram.com/slappytrucks
I haven't seen this posted yet, Sinclair's new truck brand. They're available in 8, 8.25, 8.5, 8.75 and 9 with regular and inverted kingpin available in all sizes.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CkMimubPOnm/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY=
I see a mixture between Indy+Ace+Thunder. Doesn't look bad but I don't think they're bringing something new.
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I'll wait for the Ben Degros review
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Ruckus 2.0
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I try not to be immediately dismissive of new brands, but as far as the truck market goes I genuinely don't know what we're missing that anyone else would provide.
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I try not to be immediately dismissive of new brands, but as far as the truck market goes I genuinely don't know what we're missing that anyone else would provide.
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a silly name?
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I try not to be immediately dismissive of new brands, but as far as the truck market goes I genuinely don't know what we're missing that anyone else would provide.
Creeper batwing hangers with a tensor slide plate or gtfo
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I’ll bite. Unless they’re 100 bucks like Lurpivs lol
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My immediate reaction is to go to Alibaba and look to see if they match any.
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https://instagram.com/slappytrucks
I haven't seen this posted yet, Sinclair's new truck brand. They're available in 8, 8.25, 8.5, 8.75 and 9 with inverted kingpins in all sizes.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CkMimubPOnm/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY=
I see a mixture between Indy+Ace+Thunder. Doesn't look bad but I don't think they're bringing something new.
I don't get it, are they IKP or no? That picture is clearly a standard kingpin. Maybe all sizes are available in both configurations?
Here’s one of the IKP model
https://www.instagram.com/p/Ci0udS-PLXy/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY= (https://www.instagram.com/p/Ci0udS-PLXy/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY=)
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I have exactly zero interest in trying these out.
I still want to see the front of the hanger though.
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I know flim trucks are not big in the USA yet. However both philly shops carry them. Isn't slappy's kinda their thing?
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Well they don't look like ruckus. A tiny bit like industrials but not exactly. Got an independent looking hangar from the front and theeve above the kingpin. Baseplate is drilled like an Indy but square hole in middle like a thunder and theeve. Guess they're original
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I try not to be immediately dismissive of new brands, but as far as the truck market goes I genuinely don't know what we're missing that anyone else would provide.
Trucks have never been better and with more options readily available to suit any type of rider.
I wish them well, but both Ace and Indy have very heavily captured the niche "slappy" market.
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I have exactly zero interest in trying these out.
I still want to see the front of the hanger though.
https://www.instagram.com/p/Cg3EKvVLrXL/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
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I have exactly zero interest in trying these out.
I still want to see the front of the hanger though.
I have exactly zero interest in trying these out.
I still want to see the front of the hanger though.
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I feel the name is not really doing it any favors. Feels like the name that would be on a bootleg Bobby Puleo or Koston board
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Pretty clean looking truck. Eastern will carry them when they drop. I’m willing to try a set.
Looks like they have a pack of bushings that come with both “soft” and “hard” bushings? Might be an easy way to dial them in without having to buy a bunch of different bushings.
https://www.slappytrucks.com/accessories
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"I finally got the truck to where I really like it, the main thing I wanted in a truck was for it to have the best grind clearance I could get without messing up the turn that I wanted. I also wanted the truck to be strong, light and have a classic look and feel."
I like how there will be ace, the new retro indy that looks like ace, and this slappy truck that looks like ace.
Probably really hard to tell the difference in clips or at all
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So this is a truck based on Sinclair's preferred turn and grind? Why should we trust what he wants in a skateboard truck - its been a minute since a Larry Perkins part dropped.
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Well, seeing as how the last high-profile experiment with starting a truck company from scratch was flawless, I’m sure this will be a resounding success
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looks like he has quite good distribution already, including canada which is a good sign these will last longer than lurpiv…
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No team tab on the site? C'mon sinclair
Maria Castle
Matt Bennett
Nick Kirch
Chino Maltese
Ryan Hamburg
Who else?
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They look too high for me but I'm all for it none the less.
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Slappy trucks and not a single slappy clip on their insta. ::)
My expectations are not high but who knows these days with even Royal putting out a truck that people really like.
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I feel the name is not really doing it any favors. Feels like the name that would be on a bootleg Bobby Puleo or Koston board
The cheap in house brand trucks that go on Alien Workshop trucks are called Xenia. I'm sure they're shit but using that name got me stoked.
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So, Theeve 4.0 without TI?
That is some serious grind clearance tho...
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looks like he has quite good distribution already, including canada which is a good sign these will last longer than lurpiv…
Mike is also deep in the industry which will probably help. Sure Oski’s very well known and a lot of people fuck with him, but I’m not sure he has the history with the industry or reach that mike does
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Certainly looks like twice the grind clearance as on the Indies. How high are those, weight, I need specs.
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"I finally got the truck to where I really like it, the main thing I wanted in a truck was for it to have the best grind clearance I could get without messing up the turn that I wanted. I also wanted the truck to be strong, light and have a classic look and feel."
I like how there will be ace, the new retro indy that looks like ace, and this slappy truck that looks like ace.
Probably really hard to tell the difference in clips or at all
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"I finally got the truck to where I really like it, the main thing I wanted in a truck was for it to have the best grind clearance I could get without messing up the turn that I wanted. I also wanted the truck to be strong, light and have a classic look and feel."
I like how there will be ace, the new retro indy that looks like ace, and this slappy truck that looks like ace.
Probably really hard to tell the difference in clips or at all
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=123563.msg3866286#msg3866286
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=123563.0
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"I finally got the truck to where I really like it, the main thing I wanted in a truck was for it to have the best grind clearance I could get without messing up the turn that I wanted. I also wanted the truck to be strong, light and have a classic look and feel."
I like how there will be ace, the new retro indy that looks like ace, and this slappy truck that looks like ace.
Probably really hard to tell the difference in clips or at all
(https://i.ibb.co/BrjG0Zr/DA15-A5-E9-3-B4-B-4-A09-9-A67-A4-A3-DEB18753.jpg) (https://ibb.co/xfGYxjf)
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"I've emptied all my accounts".
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i think mike sinclair lost his relevancy, no reason for me bc all ive ever known him is as a kotr tm
oski has a name & track record, mag lights have the lightness aspect. all this brand has is a quirky name
not gonna cop
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I've been riding the regular kingpin version for a few weeks, and so far they're great. Sure, these don't reinvent the wheel but they seem to take the most desirable attributes of the big four including amazing kingpin clearance, a turn that feels more swoopy like an Ace but resists wheelbite like Lurpivs did, they grind like a mix of af1s and Indy. Bushings sort of feel like Ace hards at first but loosen up nicely. QC seems to be on point also, they feel and look like top tier trucks should.
I don't feel compelled to change bushings or pivot cups like I have every other truck in the last 5 years which is a relief because my tendency to blame my equipment instead of myself for my lack of ability had gotten expensive.
I didn't measure or weigh them but they feel light but not too light. Pretty sure they are 53mm tall but again, I haven't measured them.
Tldr- they're good
And no, this isn't Sinclair.
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Any idea how they make your wheelbase sit? Is it super short like an ace, kinda normal like an indy or a lil longer like indy forged plate, or do they really push it out like a thunder or venture. I imagine more towards the former
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Without measurements I could be way off but they feel like they are in the honey hole between Indy standards and Ace AF1, wheelbase-wise.
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Without measurements I could be way off but they feel like they are in the honey hole between Indy standards and Ace AF1, wheelbase-wise.
Thanks, thats about what I would have guessed. So sounds like a lower indy standard with more kingpin clearance?
I'm not mad at that
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Any idea where they're made?
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Certainly looks like twice the grind clearance as on the Indies. How high are those, weight, I need specs.
My thought exactly. Kingpin clearance looks huge.
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I don't get why people are shitting on this brand/idea but welcomed Lurpiv with open arms. If the QC is better than ACE it seems like it could be a great truck if you don't want to ride Indys for whatever reason.
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Certainly looks like twice the grind clearance as on the Indies. How high are those, weight, I need specs.
Same. Kinda weird that there aren't specs out considering every major truck brand has this info readily available. I know not everyone is super into gear, but I frequently hear people at my local talk about basic dimensions like truck height, weight, and how far it pushes out WB.
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Of course hard to conclude from those photos, but it looks like a very hollow hanger without much support.
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Certainly looks like twice the grind clearance as on the Indies. How high are those, weight, I need specs.
Same. Kinda weird that there aren't specs out considering every major truck brand has this info readily available. I know not everyone is super into gear, but I frequently hear people at my local talk about basic dimensions like truck height, weight, and how far it pushes out WB.
I wish I went to your local because at the ones I've been to absolutely no fried employee has given a fuck about these things and when you ask them about trucks they just say they ride Indy's. Or that they ride Ventures because Indy moved to China, but that some people that like doing tech stuff skate Thunders but they're not good for transition. Literally all statements I've heard too many times to count. Measuring a deck or asking about specs is frowned upon.
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I don't get why people are shitting on this brand/idea but welcomed Lurpiv with open arms. If the QC is better than ACE it seems like it could be a great truck if you don't want to ride Indys for whatever reason.
Marketing works and Lurpiv had all the right ingredients except the actual product. Slappy has a weaker image so far but if the product is good, it may work. I do find it strange that they chose a hanger that looks exactly like an ace classic. Makes it harder for footage of your product to stand out.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/Ck9aVzhJV_O/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
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I don't think people are shitting on them...Lurpiv caught flack as well...anything new does...*AHEM, Royal Thread*
They're special, they went back in time and nabbed a young Chet Thomas.
(https://i.ibb.co/TmPNRfm/unnamed-2.png) (https://ibb.co/TmPNRfm)
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I'd ride 'em if they want a test pilot.
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Comes with the added feature of everyone assuming they are Ace trucks and not treating you like an insane person.
I remember my homie asking how I got Thunders with an inverted kingpin, when I said they were Royals he looked like I spat in his face.
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The front view and baseplate look like an Indy, made me think they were an Indy rebrand like Zumiez's Compound trucks https://www.zumiez.com/compound-polished-silver-5-25-skateboard-truck.html
(https://scene7.zumiez.com/is/image/zumiez/product_main_medium_2x/Compound-Polished-Silver-5.75%22-Skateboard-Truck-_339620-front-US.jpg)
(https://scene7.zumiez.com/is/image/zumiez/product_main_medium_2x/Compound-Polished-Silver-5.75%22-Skateboard-Truck-_339620-back-US.jpg)
But the hanger looks skinnier and the kingpin lower, so IDK.
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Here's 13 seconds. Still confused how Sinclair has access to a foundry that allows him to tinker. Maybe they are just going to put these on all the toy machine completes.
http://youtu.be/GkWMyiTNZEM
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Here's 13 seconds. Still confused how Sinclair has access to a foundry that allows him to tinker. Maybe they are just going to put these on all the toy machine completes.
http://youtu.be/GkWMyiTNZEM
Everyone does. You send your specs and references to a Chinese foundry and they send you a prototype in a few weeks. China is cutthroat so its surprisingly cheap (by b2b standards) to get just a couple pairs made and if you're someone like Sinclair who is probably at least somewhat connected over there they'd probably throw themselves at your feet in the hopes of landing even a 2500 pc order.
There's that whole Zumiez-centric side of Tumyeto that pumps out 8" completes, so I'd assume he's probably just working with whatever foundry makes those though.
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Design looks clean but in my somewhat worthless opinion, i think the logo on the baseplate cheapens them.
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Just buy forged indys or aces.
You can even get IKP indy plates now
this seems silly
and they look like some kmart shit.
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The front view and baseplate look like an Indy, made me think they were an Indy rebrand like Zumiez's Compound trucks https://www.zumiez.com/compound-polished-silver-5-25-skateboard-truck.html
(https://scene7.zumiez.com/is/image/zumiez/product_main_medium_2x/Compound-Polished-Silver-5.75%22-Skateboard-Truck-_339620-front-US.jpg)
(https://scene7.zumiez.com/is/image/zumiez/product_main_medium_2x/Compound-Polished-Silver-5.75%22-Skateboard-Truck-_339620-back-US.jpg)
But the hanger looks skinnier and the kingpin lower, so IDK.
Not to quibble, but it's a mistake to describe the cheap Indy knockoffs which Zumiez sells as an "Indy rebrand," which would imply that they simply take authentic Independent Trucks and brand them with a different logo. These are obviously cheap fakes.
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Will start this off by saying I am a fuck the rest kinda guy. Haven't had anything other than forged Indy's for the past 10 to 15 years on my main board. I wanted to join the ace hype train (they are a beautiful truck), but have never been able to get a pair to my liking. They do not grind like they should either, but that is a different story.
Been riding the 8.5 standard KP for a couple weeks now on a lightly used popsicle that I had laying around. I love talking shit on things, but overall I do not really have any gripes with these. They feel good right when set up, which is surprising, but they have also worn in/ loosened up nicely. I have not really messed with them much on any bigger transition, but the trucks have been fun to play around with on slappy curbs, boxes, and flatgound. I am not a small boi and enjoy to ride a decently loose truck and these have a bit of wheel bite resistance that doesn't seem to negatively affect the feel of the turn of the truck. Something that I did not know I wanted, but think I kinda like.
The verdict is still out, as to how these will hold up since its only been a couple weeks of riding but they have been a pleasant surprise thus far. Solid job Larry.
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ill wait a few years before i fuck with it. i just got my first pair of aces recently lol
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Everyone does. You send your specs and references to a Chinese foundry and they send you a prototype in a few weeks. China is cutthroat so its surprisingly cheap (by b2b standards) to get just a couple pairs made and if you're someone like Sinclair who is probably at least somewhat connected over there they'd probably throw themselves at your feet in the hopes of landing even a 2500 pc order.
If you are just DHLing some samples this makes sense. I’ve seen the exact scenario in my work.
My confusion is probably me just projecting that I really don’t want another truck brand to think about haha
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Will start this off by saying I am a fuck the rest kinda guy. Haven't had anything other than forged Indy's for the past 10 to 15 years on my main board. I wanted to join the ace hype train (they are a beautiful truck), but have never been able to get a pair to my liking. They do not grind like they should either, but that is a different story.
Been riding the 8.5 standard KP for a couple weeks now on a lightly used popsicle that I had laying around. I love talking shit on things, but overall I do not really have any gripes with these. They feel good right when set up, which is surprising, but they have also worn in/ loosened up nicely. I have not really messed with them much on any bigger transition, but the trucks have been fun to play around with on slappy curbs, boxes, and flatgound. I am not a small boi and enjoy to ride a decently loose truck and these have a bit of wheel bite resistance that doesn't seem to negatively affect the feel of the turn of the truck. Something that I did not know I wanted, but think I kinda like.
The verdict is still out, as to how these will hold up since its only been a couple weeks of riding but they have been a pleasant surprise thus far. Solid job Larry.
pretty similar in height to forged 149s, are there any obvious differences other than the aforementioned wheelbite resistance? (probably attributed to bushings)
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Will start this off by saying I am a fuck the rest kinda guy. Haven't had anything other than forged Indy's for the past 10 to 15 years on my main board. I wanted to join the ace hype train (they are a beautiful truck), but have never been able to get a pair to my liking. They do not grind like they should either, but that is a different story.
Been riding the 8.5 standard KP for a couple weeks now on a lightly used popsicle that I had laying around. I love talking shit on things, but overall I do not really have any gripes with these. They feel good right when set up, which is surprising, but they have also worn in/ loosened up nicely. I have not really messed with them much on any bigger transition, but the trucks have been fun to play around with on slappy curbs, boxes, and flatgound. I am not a small boi and enjoy to ride a decently loose truck and these have a bit of wheel bite resistance that doesn't seem to negatively affect the feel of the turn of the truck. Something that I did not know I wanted, but think I kinda like.
The verdict is still out, as to how these will hold up since its only been a couple weeks of riding but they have been a pleasant surprise thus far. Solid job Larry.
pretty similar in height to forged 149s, are there any obvious differences other than the aforementioned wheelbite resistance? (probably attributed to bushings)
That bottom washer (in the images) cups that bushing like a MF.
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I'll wait for the Ben Degros review
Same. Especially considering my personal preferences are extremely similar to his.
Probably because we're both 90s' tech dinosaurs.
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i didn't even realize mike sinclair skated
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I feel the name is not really doing it any favors. Feels like the name that would be on a bootleg Bobby Puleo or Koston board
The cheap in house brand trucks that go on Alien Workshop trucks are called Xenia. I'm sure they're shit but using that name got me stoked.
But they're pronounced Shania, as in Twain...I think you can see where I'm going with this.
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They look good. How tall are they and how much do they weigh?
Not a fan of the name, but whatever. Most skateboard companies have terrible brand imagery anyway.
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Pretty sure these are made by 2Hex. If you have enough coin, you also can get your own trucks made
https://www.2hex.com/skateboard-trucks-configurator
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Pretty sure these are made by 2Hex. If you have enough coin, you also can get your own trucks made
https://www.2hex.com/skateboard-trucks-configurator
We should all crowd source a competitor brand called SLAPez for the sole purpose of taking away what pidily amount of market share this guy expects to generate.
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Pretty sure these are made by 2Hex. If you have enough coin, you also can get your own trucks made
https://www.2hex.com/skateboard-trucks-configurator
We should all crowd source a competitor brand called SLAPez for the sole purpose of taking away what pidily amount of market share this guy expects to generate.
Could you imagine what the product design and testing thread would look like? Would be hilarious to see everyone try and get on the same page about how exactly SLAPez trucks should be
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SLAP Pals will not tolerate a truck that makes you nose/ tail slide on your wheels.
SLAP Pals will not tolerate squeaking bushings, cracking and popping sounds beyond a three session break in
SLAP Pals will not tolerate axle/ kingpin nuts that come loose
SLAP Pals will not tolerate any truck that uses anything remotely resembling a symbol of hate
SLAP Pals will not allow Jason Jessee to ride their SLAPez trucks
SLAPez Team riders must include Fred Gall and Frank Gerwer.
SLAP Pals would strongly prefer their trucks are manufactured at the ERMICO foundry
SLAP Pals would strongly prefer odd sized axles including 8 1/8", 8 3/8", 8 5/8" and 8 7/8" options.
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If you look at the truck label the reverse way intended it looks like they are named FIddelS.
Might be a better name, or new Sinclair candy bar company.
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If you look at the truck label the reverse way intended it looks like they are named FIddelS.
Might be a better name, or new Sinclair candy bar company.
Fiddelstix
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Will start this off by saying I am a fuck the rest kinda guy. Haven't had anything other than forged Indy's for the past 10 to 15 years on my main board. I wanted to join the ace hype train (they are a beautiful truck), but have never been able to get a pair to my liking. They do not grind like they should either, but that is a different story.
Been riding the 8.5 standard KP for a couple weeks now on a lightly used popsicle that I had laying around. I love talking shit on things, but overall I do not really have any gripes with these. They feel good right when set up, which is surprising, but they have also worn in/ loosened up nicely. I have not really messed with them much on any bigger transition, but the trucks have been fun to play around with on slappy curbs, boxes, and flatgound. I am not a small boi and enjoy to ride a decently loose truck and these have a bit of wheel bite resistance that doesn't seem to negatively affect the feel of the turn of the truck. Something that I did not know I wanted, but think I kinda like.
The verdict is still out, as to how these will hold up since its only been a couple weeks of riding but they have been a pleasant surprise thus far. Solid job Larry.
pretty similar in height to forged 149s, are there any obvious differences other than the aforementioned wheelbite resistance? (probably attributed to bushings)
That bottom washer (in the images) cups that bushing like a MF.
Is that what people mean by “wheel bite resistance”? Or is it the robustness of the black pivot bushing sitting in the pivot cup.?
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Pretty sure these are made by 2Hex. If you have enough coin, you also can get your own trucks made
https://www.2hex.com/skateboard-trucks-configurator
So how much will it cost to bring kreper back
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Will start this off by saying I am a fuck the rest kinda guy. Haven't had anything other than forged Indy's for the past 10 to 15 years on my main board. I wanted to join the ace hype train (they are a beautiful truck), but have never been able to get a pair to my liking. They do not grind like they should either, but that is a different story.
Been riding the 8.5 standard KP for a couple weeks now on a lightly used popsicle that I had laying around. I love talking shit on things, but overall I do not really have any gripes with these. They feel good right when set up, which is surprising, but they have also worn in/ loosened up nicely. I have not really messed with them much on any bigger transition, but the trucks have been fun to play around with on slappy curbs, boxes, and flatgound. I am not a small boi and enjoy to ride a decently loose truck and these have a bit of wheel bite resistance that doesn't seem to negatively affect the feel of the turn of the truck. Something that I did not know I wanted, but think I kinda like.
The verdict is still out, as to how these will hold up since its only been a couple weeks of riding but they have been a pleasant surprise thus far. Solid job Larry.
pretty similar in height to forged 149s, are there any obvious differences other than the aforementioned wheelbite resistance? (probably attributed to bushings)
That bottom washer (in the images) cups that bushing like a MF.
Is that what people mean by “wheel bite resistance”? Or is it the robustness of the black pivot bushing sitting in the pivot cup.?
Restricting the amount a bushing can deform would for sure factor into wheelbite (or not). The pivot doesn't restrict anything except metal rubbing on metal.
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Will start this off by saying I am a fuck the rest kinda guy. Haven't had anything other than forged Indy's for the past 10 to 15 years on my main board. I wanted to join the ace hype train (they are a beautiful truck), but have never been able to get a pair to my liking. They do not grind like they should either, but that is a different story.
Been riding the 8.5 standard KP for a couple weeks now on a lightly used popsicle that I had laying around. I love talking shit on things, but overall I do not really have any gripes with these. They feel good right when set up, which is surprising, but they have also worn in/ loosened up nicely. I have not really messed with them much on any bigger transition, but the trucks have been fun to play around with on slappy curbs, boxes, and flatgound. I am not a small boi and enjoy to ride a decently loose truck and these have a bit of wheel bite resistance that doesn't seem to negatively affect the feel of the turn of the truck. Something that I did not know I wanted, but think I kinda like.
The verdict is still out, as to how these will hold up since its only been a couple weeks of riding but they have been a pleasant surprise thus far. Solid job Larry.
pretty similar in height to forged 149s, are there any obvious differences other than the aforementioned wheelbite resistance? (probably attributed to bushings)
That bottom washer (in the images) cups that bushing like a MF.
Is that what people mean by “wheel bite resistance”? Or is it the robustness of the black pivot bushing sitting in the pivot cup.?
Restricting the amount a bushing can deform would for sure factor into wheelbite (or not). The pivot doesn't restrict anything except metal rubbing on metal.
Nah, the pivot bushing controls a lot of the turn.
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Will start this off by saying I am a fuck the rest kinda guy. Haven't had anything other than forged Indy's for the past 10 to 15 years on my main board. I wanted to join the ace hype train (they are a beautiful truck), but have never been able to get a pair to my liking. They do not grind like they should either, but that is a different story.
Been riding the 8.5 standard KP for a couple weeks now on a lightly used popsicle that I had laying around. I love talking shit on things, but overall I do not really have any gripes with these. They feel good right when set up, which is surprising, but they have also worn in/ loosened up nicely. I have not really messed with them much on any bigger transition, but the trucks have been fun to play around with on slappy curbs, boxes, and flatgound. I am not a small boi and enjoy to ride a decently loose truck and these have a bit of wheel bite resistance that doesn't seem to negatively affect the feel of the turn of the truck. Something that I did not know I wanted, but think I kinda like.
The verdict is still out, as to how these will hold up since its only been a couple weeks of riding but they have been a pleasant surprise thus far. Solid job Larry.
pretty similar in height to forged 149s, are there any obvious differences other than the aforementioned wheelbite resistance? (probably attributed to bushings)
That bottom washer (in the images) cups that bushing like a MF.
Is that what people mean by “wheel bite resistance”? Or is it the robustness of the black pivot bushing sitting in the pivot cup.?
Restricting the amount a bushing can deform would for sure factor into wheelbite (or not). The pivot doesn't restrict anything except metal rubbing on metal.
Nah, the pivot bushing controls a lot of the turn.
Read my comment again:
"The pivot doesn't restrict anything"
All the turning you do goes through the pivot, they've a totally different function than bushings; to your point, yes, they are tied more directly to a trucks geo [turn] than a bushing set.
No one swaps out pivot cups to curb wheelbite my dude.
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Pretty sure these are made by 2Hex. If you have enough coin, you also can get your own trucks made
https://www.2hex.com/skateboard-trucks-configurator
Got to admit, I think you're right. Shape is different all around tho...
Smallest amount of Thrasher coverage possible.
https://www.thrashermagazine.com/articles/trash/announcing-slappy-trucks/
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Will start this off by saying I am a fuck the rest kinda guy. Haven't had anything other than forged Indy's for the past 10 to 15 years on my main board. I wanted to join the ace hype train (they are a beautiful truck), but have never been able to get a pair to my liking. They do not grind like they should either, but that is a different story.
Been riding the 8.5 standard KP for a couple weeks now on a lightly used popsicle that I had laying around. I love talking shit on things, but overall I do not really have any gripes with these. They feel good right when set up, which is surprising, but they have also worn in/ loosened up nicely. I have not really messed with them much on any bigger transition, but the trucks have been fun to play around with on slappy curbs, boxes, and flatgound. I am not a small boi and enjoy to ride a decently loose truck and these have a bit of wheel bite resistance that doesn't seem to negatively affect the feel of the turn of the truck. Something that I did not know I wanted, but think I kinda like.
The verdict is still out, as to how these will hold up since its only been a couple weeks of riding but they have been a pleasant surprise thus far. Solid job Larry.
pretty similar in height to forged 149s, are there any obvious differences other than the aforementioned wheelbite resistance? (probably attributed to bushings)
That bottom washer (in the images) cups that bushing like a MF.
Is that what people mean by “wheel bite resistance”? Or is it the robustness of the black pivot bushing sitting in the pivot cup.?
Restricting the amount a bushing can deform would for sure factor into wheelbite (or not). The pivot doesn't restrict anything except metal rubbing on metal.
Nah, the pivot bushing controls a lot of the turn.
Read my comment again:
"The pivot doesn't restrict anything"
All the turning you do goes through the pivot, they've a totally different function than bushings; to your point, yes, they are tied more directly to a trucks geo [turn] than a bushing set.
No one swaps out pivot cups to curb wheelbite my dude.
Speak for yourself, the pivot bushing is the key.
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Will start this off by saying I am a fuck the rest kinda guy. Haven't had anything other than forged Indy's for the past 10 to 15 years on my main board. I wanted to join the ace hype train (they are a beautiful truck), but have never been able to get a pair to my liking. They do not grind like they should either, but that is a different story.
Been riding the 8.5 standard KP for a couple weeks now on a lightly used popsicle that I had laying around. I love talking shit on things, but overall I do not really have any gripes with these. They feel good right when set up, which is surprising, but they have also worn in/ loosened up nicely. I have not really messed with them much on any bigger transition, but the trucks have been fun to play around with on slappy curbs, boxes, and flatgound. I am not a small boi and enjoy to ride a decently loose truck and these have a bit of wheel bite resistance that doesn't seem to negatively affect the feel of the turn of the truck. Something that I did not know I wanted, but think I kinda like.
The verdict is still out, as to how these will hold up since its only been a couple weeks of riding but they have been a pleasant surprise thus far. Solid job Larry.
pretty similar in height to forged 149s, are there any obvious differences other than the aforementioned wheelbite resistance? (probably attributed to bushings)
That bottom washer (in the images) cups that bushing like a MF.
Is that what people mean by “wheel bite resistance”? Or is it the robustness of the black pivot bushing sitting in the pivot cup.?
Restricting the amount a bushing can deform would for sure factor into wheelbite (or not). The pivot doesn't restrict anything except metal rubbing on metal.
Nah, the pivot bushing controls a lot of the turn.
Read my comment again:
"The pivot doesn't restrict anything"
All the turning you do goes through the pivot, they've a totally different function than bushings; to your point, yes, they are tied more directly to a trucks geo [turn] than a bushing set.
No one swaps out pivot cups to curb wheelbite my dude.
Speak for yourself, the pivot cup is the key.
I made a post, on a forum so I am speaking for my self...lol, that's how it works...
Having fucked with numerous brands of pivot cups, duros, etc., they're fucking snake oil.
Bushings and washers (flat or cupped) have impact on wheelbite (the fucking item in question here), not fucking pivot cups...keep on keeping on tho if you think that works for you.
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Will start this off by saying I am a fuck the rest kinda guy. Haven't had anything other than forged Indy's for the past 10 to 15 years on my main board. I wanted to join the ace hype train (they are a beautiful truck), but have never been able to get a pair to my liking. They do not grind like they should either, but that is a different story.
Been riding the 8.5 standard KP for a couple weeks now on a lightly used popsicle that I had laying around. I love talking shit on things, but overall I do not really have any gripes with these. They feel good right when set up, which is surprising, but they have also worn in/ loosened up nicely. I have not really messed with them much on any bigger transition, but the trucks have been fun to play around with on slappy curbs, boxes, and flatgound. I am not a small boi and enjoy to ride a decently loose truck and these have a bit of wheel bite resistance that doesn't seem to negatively affect the feel of the turn of the truck. Something that I did not know I wanted, but think I kinda like.
The verdict is still out, as to how these will hold up since its only been a couple weeks of riding but they have been a pleasant surprise thus far. Solid job Larry.
pretty similar in height to forged 149s, are there any obvious differences other than the aforementioned wheelbite resistance? (probably attributed to bushings)
That bottom washer (in the images) cups that bushing like a MF.
Is that what people mean by “wheel bite resistance”? Or is it the robustness of the black pivot bushing sitting in the pivot cup.?
Restricting the amount a bushing can deform would for sure factor into wheelbite (or not). The pivot doesn't restrict anything except metal rubbing on metal.
Nah, the pivot bushing controls a lot of the turn.
Read my comment again:
"The pivot doesn't restrict anything"
All the turning you do goes through the pivot, they've a totally different function than bushings; to your point, yes, they are tied more directly to a trucks geo [turn] than a bushing set.
No one swaps out pivot cups to curb wheelbite my dude.
Speak for yourself, the pivot cup is the key.
I made a post, on a forum so I am speaking for my self...lol, that's how it works...
Having fucked with numerous brands of pivot cups, duros, etc., they're fucking snake oil.
Bushings and washers (flat or cupped) have impact on wheelbite (the fucking item in question here), not fucking pivot cups...keep on keeping on tho if you think that works for you.
You literally said “No one swaps out…”
That is the very definition of speaking for others.
I was discussing pivot bushings sitting inside the pivot cup, the pivot cup is part of the baseplate, big difference, that was my item in question and seems you got confused or don’t know the difference.
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Anyway, the question and point still stands and is up to debate the robustness of the pivot Bushing in these new trucks could potentially add to wheel bite resistance while not sacrificing turn quality so Sinclair may be on to something.
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i didn't even realize mike sinclair skated
hes actaully really good
is this brand actually geared towards people who wanna do a lot of slappies? if there is tons of extra grind clearance i can see this making sense cause i axel'd a pair of indys in 20 weeks last year
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Will start this off by saying I am a fuck the rest kinda guy. Haven't had anything other than forged Indy's for the past 10 to 15 years on my main board. I wanted to join the ace hype train (they are a beautiful truck), but have never been able to get a pair to my liking. They do not grind like they should either, but that is a different story.
Been riding the 8.5 standard KP for a couple weeks now on a lightly used popsicle that I had laying around. I love talking shit on things, but overall I do not really have any gripes with these. They feel good right when set up, which is surprising, but they have also worn in/ loosened up nicely. I have not really messed with them much on any bigger transition, but the trucks have been fun to play around with on slappy curbs, boxes, and flatgound. I am not a small boi and enjoy to ride a decently loose truck and these have a bit of wheel bite resistance that doesn't seem to negatively affect the feel of the turn of the truck. Something that I did not know I wanted, but think I kinda like.
The verdict is still out, as to how these will hold up since its only been a couple weeks of riding but they have been a pleasant surprise thus far. Solid job Larry.
pretty similar in height to forged 149s, are there any obvious differences other than the aforementioned wheelbite resistance? (probably attributed to bushings)
The height definitely feels similar to an indy. They did come with two different shapes of top washers for the KP nut. The one they came with hugs the bushing to form, where the one that came in the bag with them was much more similar to a normal shaped top washer for the KP. The one thing that really looks different to me on them, is the cut around the KP. It looks much more like a Thunder truck in that area, which I wondered if that would have anything to do with the wheelbite resistance?
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i didn't even realize mike sinclair skated
hes actaully really good
is this brand actually geared towards people who wanna do a lot of slappies? if there is tons of extra grind clearance i can see this making sense cause i axel'd a pair of indys in 20 weeks last year
I do a lot of slappys and wear out trucks pretty quickly (at least compared to some of my peers), but wearing through them is part of the fun and I don't think I would even choose a different truck simply because it would last me a little longer. Ultimately the difference between buying a pair of trucks every 1.5 years or every 2 years would never factor into my decision.
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i didn't even realize mike sinclair skated
hes actaully really good
is this brand actually geared towards people who wanna do a lot of slappies? if there is tons of extra grind clearance i can see this making sense cause i axel'd a pair of indys in 20 weeks last year
I think people sometimes forget that he's an old pro from the early 90s. Also, he's been skating more since pandemic (and having lost weight).
But yea, he's an old man skater now, just doing slappys. I saw him at the Bellflower DMV once.
Also, axel'd a pair in 20 weeks?!? What kind of crust are you skating? I feel like a year of slappys on super groomed curbs really didn't dent my trucks.
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i didn't even realize mike sinclair skated
hes actaully really good
is this brand actually geared towards people who wanna do a lot of slappies? if there is tons of extra grind clearance i can see this making sense cause i axel'd a pair of indys in 20 weeks last year
I think people sometimes forget that he's an old pro from the early 90s. Also, he's been skating more since pandemic (and having lost weight).
But yea, he's an old man skater now, just doing slappys. I saw him at the Bellflower DMV once.
Also, axel'd a pair in 20 weeks?!? What kind of crust are you skating? I feel like a year of slappys on super groomed curbs really didn't dent my trucks.
i axeld a indy in a month. technicly not brand new but they had only seen skatepark coping before that. learned slappies and was skating in a new curb that was completely raw and unskated before. hit axle on my front truck 4 weeks in.
but now that this curb is skated in it doesnt do much damage at all.
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I'm skating a pair and they feel amazing. Def my new fav truck
Went from Indy to Thunder, Thunder to Ace, Ace to Slappy.
Slappy's feel kinda like Aces but the kingpin clearance is impeccable.. haven't caught on a bs smith yet.
Indy's suck IMO now.
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I am interested but would feel kinda stupid with my trucks saying Slappy even tho I slappy lot and am a card carrying Slap pal.
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I'm skating a pair and they feel amazing. Def my new fav truck
Went from Indy to Thunder, Thunder to Ace, Ace to Slappy.
Slappy's feel kinda like Aces but the kingpin clearance is impeccable.. haven't caught on a bs smith yet.
Indy's suck IMO now.
I don't ride indys but can't imagine them sucking, what do you dislike about them?
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I'm skating a pair and they feel amazing. Def my new fav truck
Went from Indy to Thunder, Thunder to Ace, Ace to Slappy.
Slappy's feel kinda like Aces but the kingpin clearance is impeccable.. haven't caught on a bs smith yet.
Indy's suck IMO now.
Are you riding the standard kingpin or the IKP? I’m gonna snag a pair as soon as they land on skate warehouse. Also, what’s the wheelbase on these like?
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I am interested but would feel kinda stupid with my trucks saying Slappy even tho I slappy lot and am a card carrying Slap pal.
SLAP pal slappied on slappies?
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no way in hell I'm putting a truck on my board that has "slappy" written on it. don't care if they make me ollie 10 feet high.
also will never again touch anything Sinclair associated with a 10 foot pole
just get a pair of Ace
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I'm skating a pair and they feel amazing. Def my new fav truck
Went from Indy to Thunder, Thunder to Ace, Ace to Slappy.
Slappy's feel kinda like Aces but the kingpin clearance is impeccable.. haven't caught on a bs smith yet.
Indy's suck IMO now.
I don't ride indys but can't imagine them sucking, what do you dislike about them?
Fair, they don't suck but they are 4th on the list for me. Slappy, Ace, Thunder, then Indy.
Indys dont turn as smooth, are heavy and just overrated.
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I'm skating a pair and they feel amazing. Def my new fav truck
Went from Indy to Thunder, Thunder to Ace, Ace to Slappy.
Slappy's feel kinda like Aces but the kingpin clearance is impeccable.. haven't caught on a bs smith yet.
Indy's suck IMO now.
Are you riding the standard kingpin or the IKP? I’m gonna snag a pair as soon as they land on skate warehouse. Also, what’s the wheelbase on these like?
Standard kingpin, and still have great grind clearance. I wanna get the inverted Kingpin next for sure though..
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Terrible name, generic truck design, 0 brand identity.
The trucks might be good, but this brings nothing new IMO.
Also, (to paraphrase @J….soy…..) would you ever wear a “slappy” longsleeve?
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Terrible name, generic truck design, 0 brand identity.
The trucks might be good, but this brings nothing new IMO.
Also, (to paraphrase @J….soy…..) would you ever wear a “slappy” longsleeve?
The last new truck to really breakthrough and be able to compete with the big 3 was ace and that took them over a decade to reach that. i remember seeing ace's for the first time when i moved up to the SF bay area around 2008
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Terrible name, generic truck design, 0 brand identity.
The trucks might be good, but this brings nothing new IMO.
Also, (to paraphrase @J….soy…..) would you ever wear a “slappy” longsleeve?
Dude that would wear a slappy long sleeve would have a heroin egg deck and maybe this hat
(https://www.companybe.com/cowtown/product_photos/rd_images/rd_antihero-skateboards-curb-city-snapback-charcoal-black.jpg)
Danglin keys
Dog running around the spot.
Maybe playing slayer out of the tailgate of their truck.
The personification of slappies.
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Will start this off by saying I am a fuck the rest kinda guy. Haven't had anything other than forged Indy's for the past 10 to 15 years on my main board. I wanted to join the ace hype train (they are a beautiful truck), but have never been able to get a pair to my liking. They do not grind like they should either, but that is a different story.
Been riding the 8.5 standard KP for a couple weeks now on a lightly used popsicle that I had laying around. I love talking shit on things, but overall I do not really have any gripes with these. They feel good right when set up, which is surprising, but they have also worn in/ loosened up nicely. I have not really messed with them much on any bigger transition, but the trucks have been fun to play around with on slappy curbs, boxes, and flatgound. I am not a small boi and enjoy to ride a decently loose truck and these have a bit of wheel bite resistance that doesn't seem to negatively affect the feel of the turn of the truck. Something that I did not know I wanted, but think I kinda like.
The verdict is still out, as to how these will hold up since its only been a couple weeks of riding but they have been a pleasant surprise thus far. Solid job Larry.
pretty similar in height to forged 149s, are there any obvious differences other than the aforementioned wheelbite resistance? (probably attributed to bushings)
That bottom washer (in the images) cups that bushing like a MF.
Is that what people mean by “wheel bite resistance”? Or is it the robustness of the black pivot bushing sitting in the pivot cup.?
Restricting the amount a bushing can deform would for sure factor into wheelbite (or not). The pivot doesn't restrict anything except metal rubbing on metal.
Nah, the pivot bushing controls a lot of the turn.
Read my comment again:
"The pivot doesn't restrict anything"
All the turning you do goes through the pivot, they've a totally different function than bushings; to your point, yes, they are tied more directly to a trucks geo [turn] than a bushing set.
No one swaps out pivot cups to curb wheelbite my dude.
Speak for yourself, the pivot cup is the key.
I made a post, on a forum so I am speaking for my self...lol, that's how it works...
Having fucked with numerous brands of pivot cups, duros, etc., they're fucking snake oil.
Bushings and washers (flat or cupped) have impact on wheelbite (the fucking item in question here), not fucking pivot cups...keep on keeping on tho if you think that works for you.
You literally said “No one swaps out…”
That is the very definition of speaking for others.
I was discussing pivot bushings sitting inside the pivot cup, the pivot cup is part of the baseplate, big difference, that was my item in question and seems you got confused or don’t know the difference.
K, Bruh. Fair point, I generalized.
I still stand by it tho. Swapping pivot cups to curb wheel bite doesn't do anything, trucks don't work that way.
If people are swapping pivot cups in hopes of fixing wheelbite...well, it's their delusion/money,
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Terrible name, generic truck design, 0 brand identity.
The trucks might be good, but this brings nothing new IMO.
Also, (to paraphrase @J….soy…..) would you ever wear a “slappy” longsleeve?
Dude that would wear a slappy long sleeve would have a heroin egg deck and maybe this hat
(https://www.companybe.com/cowtown/product_photos/rd_images/rd_antihero-skateboards-curb-city-snapback-charcoal-black.jpg)
Danglin keys
Dog running around the spot.
Maybe playing slayer out of the tailgate of their truck.
The personification of slappies.
And all 75 of those guys will buy a pair.
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By my calculations, there at at least 75 of those guys in each city in So Cal alone, so that may be a lot of trucks.
I ain’t fucksin with em tho.
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Hollow IKP coming down the pipeline:
(https://i.ibb.co/FYPKcMN/AC0-CDACA-F5-DD-4-C81-AD4-B-218-C4357-A679.jpg) (https://ibb.co/FYPKcMN)
I wonder if the axles are too?
(https://i.ibb.co/P99ChV1/A6-FFC8-AA-DDBE-419-A-B8-C4-EA27-D8235-AB1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/P99ChV1)
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If they would have Venture pop with Ace turn I would be interested. Could open up a lot more decks for me also. I don’t think they’ll manage to do that though so maybe I’ll be safe with my stack of Aces still. :D
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The front view and baseplate look like an Indy, made me think they were an Indy rebrand like Zumiez's Compound trucks https://www.zumiez.com/compound-polished-silver-5-25-skateboard-truck.html
(https://scene7.zumiez.com/is/image/zumiez/product_main_medium_2x/Compound-Polished-Silver-5.75%22-Skateboard-Truck-_339620-front-US.jpg)
(https://scene7.zumiez.com/is/image/zumiez/product_main_medium_2x/Compound-Polished-Silver-5.75%22-Skateboard-Truck-_339620-back-US.jpg)
But the hanger looks skinnier and the kingpin lower, so IDK.
Not to quibble, but it's a mistake to describe the cheap Indy knockoffs which Zumiez sells as an "Indy rebrand," which would imply that they simply take authentic Independent Trucks and brand them with a different logo. These are obviously cheap fakes.
I have a set of these. They're not cheap fakes, they're just clones. They're basically indistinguishable from indy standards apart from the BP logo. Same alloy and I wouldn't be surprised if they scanned the individual parts for the mold or just bought them under the table from whatever foundry NHS uses. They even got the weight mostly right. The only thing that's kinda cheap about them are the bushings but they aren't awful and you can just swap the indys in and they feel pretty much the same in my opinion. They also weren't really cheap, they sold them for like $5 less than indys sadly.
Industrial has been doing the same thing for years
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Kingpin clearance is nuts, especially on the IKP versions. If they can acheive that and have a turn like Ace, that's a win in my book. Yeah, if I'm gonna be nitpicky, the hanger is identical to an Ace classic and the "slappy" logo on the baseplate is awful, but whatever.
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Seems like he’d have more connections in the realm of brand identity besides dafont.com
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Factories are desperate for production they're willing to work with anyone. Look at PS Stix (https://www.instagram.com/p/Ck_R2WvpFOq/) you can start your own board brand quick and easy. Testing trucks for 2 years hahaha that's like Bronson saying they tested bearing for years before launching that shit brand. In the world of overstocked product and cheap ass products ( https://www.sierra.com/s~skateboard/ ) now is the worse time to launch anything. No wonder all these companies are letting riders go. Too many brands and too many discounts. Skateboarding did it to itself again...
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silver tool friendly ?
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Factories are desperate for production they're willing to work with anyone. Look at PS Stix (https://www.instagram.com/p/Ck_R2WvpFOq/) you can start your own board brand quick and easy. Testing trucks for 2 years hahaha that's like Bronson saying they tested bearing for years before launching that shit brand. In the world of overstocked product and cheap ass products ( https://www.sierra.com/s~skateboard/ ) now is the worse time to launch anything. No wonder all these companies are letting riders go. Too many brands and too many discounts. Skateboarding did it to itself again...
This should almost be its own thread. Pretty cool opportunity.
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@dermbot has a really good look at these trucks in his stories on IG today. He also stated that they’re privately distributed and not distributed through Tum Yeto.
https://instagram.com/stories/dermbot/2973907557827375446?utm_source=ig_story_item_share&igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY=
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AliBaba looking ass trucks
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Echoing the other posters on what exactly another truck brand brings to the table. Seems cool I guess.
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Echoing the other posters on what exactly another truck brand brings to the table. Seems cool I guess.
Without knowing how they skate, the only thing they're bringing is kingpin clearance out of the gate and they've got it in spades compared to other brands. So there's that....I guess....
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Marry, fuck, kill
Theeve Slappy Tensor
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Echoing the other posters on what exactly another truck brand brings to the table. Seems cool I guess.
Without knowing how they skate, the only thing they're bringing is kingpin clearance out of the gate and they've got it in spades compared to other brands. So there's that....I guess....
It's like an independent with venture clearance.
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Marry, fuck, kill
Theeve Slappy Tensor
Marry Tensor - they've been around the longest, put money in Dr Z and Daewon's wallet, while I'm not a fan of the Maglight their Aluminium ones seem decent
Fuck Slappy - could be a fun 1-off, always want to try something new
Kill Theeve - I've hated everyone's setup with Theeve on them
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Who cops a pair and checks if they fit on an Indy baseplate? :D
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Skate warehouse has them now to ship on 27nov. About 50 bucks for a set
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Skate warehouse has them now to ship on 27nov. About 50 bucks for a set
Always curious to see and hear how some work, especially when they look like this and have all the sizes available that they do.
No pics on the SW site yet, but at least their instagram have enough good pics.
https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Slappy_ST1_Inverted_Trucks/descpage-SYIVTR.html
Slappy ST1 Inverted Trucks
Polished
$29.99 each
Truck Sizes: 8" 8.25" 8.5" 8.75" 9"
https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Slappy_ST1_Classic_Trucks/descpage-SYCPTR.html
Slappy ST1 Classic Trucks
Polished
$26.99 each
Truck Sizes: 8" 8.25" 8.5" 8.75" 9"
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Height reported to be 53.9 per dm response.
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I picked up a set of 8.25 inverted trucks. It’s pretty cold here so I’m not sure when I’ll get to skate them, but I’ll definitely post my thoughts when I get them!
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SLAP Pals will not tolerate a truck that makes you nose/ tail slide on your wheels.
SLAP Pals will not tolerate squeaking bushings, cracking and popping sounds beyond a three session break in
SLAP Pals will not tolerate axle/ kingpin nuts that come loose
SLAP Pals will not tolerate any truck that uses anything remotely resembling a symbol of hate
SLAP Pals will not allow Jason Jessee to ride their SLAPez trucks
SLAPez Team riders must include Fred Gall and Frank Gerwer.
SLAP Pals would strongly prefer their trucks are manufactured at the ERMICO foundry
SLAP Pals would strongly prefer odd sized axles including 8 1/8", 8 3/8", 8 5/8" and 8 7/8" options.
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Anyone who's been skating them have an update?
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Anyone who's been skating them have an update?
Ask the 2 people Sinclair has managed to film skating them so far.
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I feel the name is not really doing it any favors. Feels like the name that would be on a bootleg Bobby Puleo or Koston board
The cheap in house brand trucks that go on Alien Workshop trucks are called Xenia. I'm sure they're shit but using that name got me stoked.
Damn i want some Xenias for the shelf
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Anyone who's been skating them have an update?
I was gonna bite during the sales, but knowing a hollow IKP is coming, I'm gonna wait.
If they were smart, they'd release a standalone version of that pin if it's indy/royal compatible...
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Anyone who's been skating them have an update?
I was gonna bite during the sales, but knowing a hollow IKP is coming, I'm gonna wait.
(http://If they were smart, they'd release a standalone version of that pin if it's indy/royal compatible...)
Sure, it's super smart to sell the Kingpin separate for a fraction of the price of the whole truck when its the only thing making their trucks worth buying.
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Anyone who's been skating them have an update?
Set my ikp version up last night. I’m gonna try and get a little session on them after work. I’ll post a first impression if I do.
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Anyone who's been skating them have an update?
I was gonna bite during the sales, but knowing a hollow IKP is coming, I'm gonna wait.
(http://If they were smart, they'd release a standalone version of that pin if it's indy/royal compatible...)
Sure, it's super smart to sell the Kingpin separate for a fraction of the price of the whole truck when its the only thing making their trucks worth buying.
Not everyone is interested in an IKP? You do realize they sell standard trucks as well, right?
Why not complain they're selling a two pack of bushings, one soft and one hard as well?
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Anyone who's been skating them have an update?
Set my ikp version up last night. I’m gonna try and get a little session on them after work. I’ll post a first impression if I do.
Great stuff!
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https://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2022/12/01/where-the-hell-did-slappy-trucks-come-from/
Jenkem interview is up.
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https://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2022/12/01/where-the-hell-did-slappy-trucks-come-from/
Jenkem interview is up.
major props for him to do everything basically on his own, but damn he's got some tough competition
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5 pages in and nobody has given Sinclair credit for just listing them by size in inches. Thank you Mike- It’s what the people want.
In any case I have some 8.75 on the way. See what happens…
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Anyone who's been skating them have an update?
Set my ikp version up last night. I’m gonna try and get a little session on them after work. I’ll post a first impression if I do.
I had my first session on them today. I was honestly surprised at how nice they felt. They grind pretty smooth. I skated a circle rail at my local. I’m coming from forged 144 hollows so they felt a lot heavier which took some getting used to. I tried them on a hockey deck but I think I would much rather want to try them on a mellow baker deck. I’m gonna keep skating them, so far I think they feel great.
Edit: I weighed them compared to a forged hollow 144.
Edit 2: so the baseplate seems pretty identical to an Indy baseplate minus a cutout in the middle to reduce weight. The hanger is more close to an Ace hanger from what I can see. I don’t have any af1 hangers but that’s the closest I can see. Oh, the bottom bushing is identical in size to an orange Indy bushing. The top bushing is shorter. Didn’t measure the bushings.
(https://i.ibb.co/VT59nBQ/0025883-D-69-BD-42-F9-9-FD0-C6-BF3619454-B.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jDsf04W)
(https://i.ibb.co/VJCmZPB/F4395566-CE06-4187-97-B4-308737-D096-C6.jpg) (https://ibb.co/S5mr89v)
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https://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2022/12/01/where-the-hell-did-slappy-trucks-come-from/
Jenkem interview is up.
For sure!!
That was a good read actually.
I went back to check after the 9" truck size comment in there and sure enough he did have them out at first, but they sold out super quick, as have most wider trucks in the inverted version, but still have most sizes in the regular version on SW at least.
This was the quote from that I was referring to:
The only “scientific” person I hit was Paul Schmitt. I gave him a set of 9-inch ones. He set them up and gave me great feedback.
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https://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2022/12/01/where-the-hell-did-slappy-trucks-come-from/
Jenkem interview is up.
For sure!!
That was a good read actually.
I went back to check after the 9" truck size comment in there and sure enough he did have them out at first, but they sold out super quick, as have most wider trucks in the inverted version, but still have most sizes in the regular version on SW at least.
This was the quote from that I was referring to:
The only “scientific” person I hit was Paul Schmitt. I gave him a set of 9-inch ones. He set them up and gave me great feedback.
"Needs more nanotubes"
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So sounds like you could put them on an indy forged baseplate and then they'd be a little lower and wouldnt say SLAPPY on the baseplate
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKc7NVc0Ieg
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So were they too loose or not? Daewon loose? Really?
1/4 turn and just under a 1/2 turn to get them where he likes them and he skate pretty loose?
Doesn't doesn't add up ;) 1/4 turn ain't fixing Daewon loose...
54mm and no wheel bite sounds pretty enticing however.
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I'm totally intrigued now after watching that video, Thanks! I've been running Indy mid IKP baseplates with Ace classic hangers and 1/8 risers for the past year basically, and loving them. I take off the bottom washer and they're super responsive. The Indy high type baseplate with an inverted kingpin and Ace type hangers (sans risers) sounds like the perfect substitute for my frankentrucks. I don't see any 8.75 or 9 IKP's in stock anywhere but will keep a look out and might have to give em a try
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So were they too loose or not? Daewon loose? Really?
1/4 turn and just under a 1/2 turn to get them where he likes them and he skate pretty loose?
Doesn't doesn't add up ;) 1/4 turn ain't fixing Daewon loose...
Mine were not “daewon loose” I did not adjust them whatsoever. I skate medium for the most part and these felt only slightly looser than what I normally ride. I do agree with the video in that they felt pretty surfy. I haven’t ridden af1s so I can’t compare them to that.
54mm and no wheel bite sounds pretty enticing however.
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It would be sick if he also dropped a low and it was called a nollie crook….
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some thoughts on them from this guy: https://www.instagram.com/reel/CluqW_9gmlI/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
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Just placed an order for the shop through south shore.
I’m gonna set some up and give my feedback soonish. We should have 8.25,8.5,8.75 standard and 8.25,8.5 inverted kingpin.
I’ll post when they’re available on the site.
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some thoughts on them from this guy: https://www.instagram.com/reel/CluqW_9gmlI/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
from that link for the lazy:
"This was the most that I could get today due to a bad bruised heal, but here are some of my initial thoughts on the trucks.
- The turn is very good. Definitely better than Indy but a tad less sharp than the turn of an Ace. The bushings and pivot cups seem to be very well made and felt good right away.
- The grind feels identical to that of the Ace AF1. Very good right off the bat and continued to get better.
- The kingpin clearance is amazing. I had to really try to dip feebles to even touch it a little bit (I got the inverted version).
- The pinch felt better to me than both Aces and Indy’s but not quite as good as Thunders.
The only two things I’d like to see from them in the future is a version with forged baseplates and hollow axles. The plates would lower them a couple of millimeters which would be sick."
With Hollows being in testing, I'll def hold out..I swear the more I hear about them the more they sound like Theeve's characteristics (turn/pinch)...lower would be nicer tho...but not too much of a change from forged indys I usually ride.
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So if anyone is curious slappys add an extra 3 5/16 to your WB. Chose wisely.
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Looks like they're using a similar bushing style as Lurpiv. That short fat top bushing must be what gives you those anti wheelbite properties.
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Skated the ST1s over the weekend primarily on transition. these grind like af1s , turn like thunders, and have a similar height to indy standards. i don't know if others have had a similar experience. not sure if it's the cold weather or the initial break-in period but i had to loosen them a bit. Other than the bushing slipping the top washer i personally think the trucks are pretty nice.
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Skated the ST1s over the weekend primarily on transition. these grind like af1s , turn like thunders, and have a similar height to indy standards. i don't know if others have had a similar experience. not sure if it's the cold weather or the initial break-in period but i had to loosen them a bit. Other than the bushing slipping the top washer i personally think the trucks are pretty nice.
Although im not really interested in trying them since im actually happy with my setup (holiday miracle) they do sound fun for low impact street and like the name implies, slappys.
I'm curious as to how stable they are at higher speeds/skating bigger stuff. a twitchy thunder turn plus added height would lead me to believe that stability is probably their weak point.
Not hating, just a surface level observation based on shit i've read on here. Everything has pros/cons.
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Low impact street?
Just about any truck can handle low impact street.
There’s literally nothing out saying that this truck can’t handle literally everything; categorizing them early without data proving otherwise just doesn’t make any sense.
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Low impact street?
Just about any truck can handle low impact street.
There’s literally nothing out saying that this truck can’t handle literally everything; categorizing them early without data proving otherwise just doesn’t make any sense.
Was talking about what they were suited for, not whether or not they could handle it. One context implies a strength, the other would imply a weakness.
The height and and turn characteristics so far have me questioning how stable they are. Not making any definitive statements, just openly discussing things.
Sorry if that upset you or something haha.
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Skated the ST1s over the weekend primarily on transition. these grind like af1s , turn like thunders, and have a similar height to indy standards. i don't know if others have had a similar experience. not sure if it's the cold weather or the initial break-in period but i had to loosen them a bit. Other than the bushing slipping the top washer i personally think the trucks are pretty nice.
Although im not really interested in trying them since im actually happy with my setup (holiday miracle) they do sound fun for low impact street and like the name implies, slappys.
I'm curious as to how stable they are at higher speeds/skating bigger stuff. a twitchy thunder turn plus added height would lead me to believe that stability is probably their weak point.
Not hating, just a surface level observation based on shit i've read on here. Everything has pros/cons.
These are fairly stable. not the kind of weird Ace AF1 tetter totter where you're spending half your time just trying to maintain balance while avoiding wheel bite. while the turn isn't as responsive as i would personally like, it's not bad.
I think what stops the wheel bite more or less is just that you cant really get as deep of a turn compared to indy/ace. You tip over on 2 wheels prior to getting wheel bite. just for reference im riding on new 56 mm conicals (setup same day as the slappies).
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Skated the ST1s over the weekend primarily on transition. these grind like af1s , turn like thunders, and have a similar height to indy standards. i don't know if others have had a similar experience. not sure if it's the cold weather or the initial break-in period but i had to loosen them a bit. Other than the bushing slipping the top washer i personally think the trucks are pretty nice.
Although im not really interested in trying them since im actually happy with my setup (holiday miracle) they do sound fun for low impact street and like the name implies, slappys.
I'm curious as to how stable they are at higher speeds/skating bigger stuff. a twitchy thunder turn plus added height would lead me to believe that stability is probably their weak point.
Not hating, just a surface level observation based on shit i've read on here. Everything has pros/cons.
These are fairly stable. not the kind of weird Ace AF1 tetter totter where you're spending half your time just trying to maintain balance while avoiding wheel bite. while the turn isn't as responsive as i would personally like, it's not bad.
I think what stops the wheel bite more or less is just that you cant really get as deep of a turn compared to indy/ace. You tip over on 2 wheels prior to getting wheel bite. just for reference im riding on new 56 mm conicals (setup same day as the slappies).
do you skate big spots or particularly fast?
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Low impact street?
Just about any truck can handle low impact street.
There’s literally nothing out saying that this truck can’t handle literally everything; categorizing them early without data proving otherwise just doesn’t make any sense.
Was talking about what they were suited for, not whether or not they could handle it. One context implies a strength, the other would imply a weakness.
The height and and turn characteristics so far have me questioning how stable they are. Not making any definitive statements, just openly discussing things.
Sorry if that upset you or something haha.
But if you haven't ridden them, how can you categorizing them for what they are good for? Based on one video and a handful of comments?
It's like saying 'wheels are good for rolling or flatland', knowhati'msaying?
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Skated the ST1s over the weekend primarily on transition. these grind like af1s , turn like thunders, and have a similar height to indy standards. i don't know if others have had a similar experience. not sure if it's the cold weather or the initial break-in period but i had to loosen them a bit. Other than the bushing slipping the top washer i personally think the trucks are pretty nice.
Although im not really interested in trying them since im actually happy with my setup (holiday miracle) they do sound fun for low impact street and like the name implies, slappys.
I'm curious as to how stable they are at higher speeds/skating bigger stuff. a twitchy thunder turn plus added height would lead me to believe that stability is probably their weak point.
Not hating, just a surface level observation based on shit i've read on here. Everything has pros/cons.
These are fairly stable. not the kind of weird Ace AF1 tetter totter where you're spending half your time just trying to maintain balance while avoiding wheel bite. while the turn isn't as responsive as i would personally like, it's not bad.
I think what stops the wheel bite more or less is just that you cant really get as deep of a turn compared to indy/ace. You tip over on 2 wheels prior to getting wheel bite. just for reference im riding on new 56 mm conicals (setup same day as the slappies).
Damn. That sounds like Krux. :-X
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Skated the ST1s over the weekend primarily on transition. these grind like af1s , turn like thunders, and have a similar height to indy standards. i don't know if others have had a similar experience. not sure if it's the cold weather or the initial break-in period but i had to loosen them a bit. Other than the bushing slipping the top washer i personally think the trucks are pretty nice.
Although im not really interested in trying them since im actually happy with my setup (holiday miracle) they do sound fun for low impact street and like the name implies, slappys.
I'm curious as to how stable they are at higher speeds/skating bigger stuff. a twitchy thunder turn plus added height would lead me to believe that stability is probably their weak point.
Not hating, just a surface level observation based on shit i've read on here. Everything has pros/cons.
These are fairly stable. not the kind of weird Ace AF1 tetter totter where you're spending half your time just trying to maintain balance while avoiding wheel bite. while the turn isn't as responsive as i would personally like, it's not bad.
I think what stops the wheel bite more or less is just that you cant really get as deep of a turn compared to indy/ace. You tip over on 2 wheels prior to getting wheel bite. just for reference im riding on new 56 mm conicals (setup same day as the slappies).
do you skate big spots or particularly fast?
i'd say id skate somewhat fast, not a liam pace or dennis busenitz speed but i definitely try to push my 50s/ 5-0s/ lip/tailslides on transition. usually only skate swiss ceramics or raws. big for me is like 6-7ft transition. im not really a technical rail or ledge skater.
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Skated the ST1s over the weekend primarily on transition. these grind like af1s , turn like thunders, and have a similar height to indy standards. i don't know if others have had a similar experience. not sure if it's the cold weather or the initial break-in period but i had to loosen them a bit. Other than the bushing slipping the top washer i personally think the trucks are pretty nice.
Although im not really interested in trying them since im actually happy with my setup (holiday miracle) they do sound fun for low impact street and like the name implies, slappys.
I'm curious as to how stable they are at higher speeds/skating bigger stuff. a twitchy thunder turn plus added height would lead me to believe that stability is probably their weak point.
Not hating, just a surface level observation based on shit i've read on here. Everything has pros/cons.
These are fairly stable. not the kind of weird Ace AF1 tetter totter where you're spending half your time just trying to maintain balance while avoiding wheel bite. while the turn isn't as responsive as i would personally like, it's not bad.
I think what stops the wheel bite more or less is just that you cant really get as deep of a turn compared to indy/ace. You tip over on 2 wheels prior to getting wheel bite. just for reference im riding on new 56 mm conicals (setup same day as the slappies).
Damn. That sounds like Krux. :-X
TBH i dont have a reference since i havent skated a pair since 2010ish. but i could see this being valid. im honestly waiting on the soft bushing drop. For reference i before slappys i skated indy standards with conical hards (indy). bolt was tightened to about the same as a default stock indy (1-1.5 threads showing).
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Just placed an order for the shop through south shore.
I’m gonna set some up and give my feedback soonish. We should have 8.25,8.5,8.75 standard and 8.25,8.5 inverted kingpin.
I’ll post when they’re available on the site.
I probably packed your order today
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Had my fourth sessions on the Slappy trucks today. I almost gave up on them because they were too squirrelly for my taste but I did something I said I wouldn’t do to them. I put Indy orange aftermarket bushings in them and they feel GREAT. The top bushing was a couple mils bigger and I think it made a difference. They don’t feel as squirrels to me and I was able to get some tricks back that I was struggling on with them. Im an awful crooked grinder but I made myself get ten in a row before I left the park tonight. I’m probably going to keep them on for a while longer since I’m really loving them after today.
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Had my fourth sessions on the Slappy trucks today. I almost gave up on them because they were too squirrelly for my taste but I did something I said I wouldn’t do to them. I put Indy orange aftermarket bushings in them and they feel GREAT. The top bushing was a couple mils bigger and I think it made a difference. They don’t feel as squirrels to me and I was able to get some tricks back that I was struggling on with them. Im an awful crooked grinder but I made myself get ten in a row before I left the park tonight. I’m probably going to keep them on for a while longer since I’m really loving them after today.
When you saw squirrelly, what are are you comparing them too?
Can you compare them to an ACE?
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Had my fourth sessions on the Slappy trucks today. I almost gave up on them because they were too squirrelly for my taste but I did something I said I wouldn’t do to them. I put Indy orange aftermarket bushings in them and they feel GREAT. The top bushing was a couple mils bigger and I think it made a difference. They don’t feel as squirrels to me and I was able to get some tricks back that I was struggling on with them. Im an awful crooked grinder but I made myself get ten in a row before I left the park tonight. I’m probably going to keep them on for a while longer since I’m really loving them after today.
When you saw squirrelly, what are are you comparing them too?
Can you compare them to an ACE?
I’ve honestly never ridden ace, but from what I’ve read, that’s what i would say I meant by squirrelly. I didn’t have them super loose, but I was getting what felt like speed wobbles at moderate to low speeds. They still do it with the Indy bushings but in a more manageable way.
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Had my fourth sessions on the Slappy trucks today. I almost gave up on them because they were too squirrelly for my taste but I did something I said I wouldn’t do to them. I put Indy orange aftermarket bushings in them and they feel GREAT. The top bushing was a couple mils bigger and I think it made a difference. They don’t feel as squirrels to me and I was able to get some tricks back that I was struggling on with them. Im an awful crooked grinder but I made myself get ten in a row before I left the park tonight. I’m probably going to keep them on for a while longer since I’m really loving them after today.
When you saw squirrelly, what are are you comparing them too?
Can you compare them to an ACE?
I’ve honestly never ridden ace, but from what I’ve read, that’s what i would say I meant by squirrelly. I didn’t have them super loose, but I was getting what felt like speed wobbles at moderate to low speeds. They still do it with the Indy bushings but in a more manageable way.
When I tried out lurpivs they felt REALLY weird until the bushings broke in. like more so than usual, and they share a similar short/fat top bushing with slappy's so maybe thats the feeling? The only way i can describe it, is it was as if my trucks were turning independently of each other, almost like i had coaster wheels (think ripstick) on my board. thankfully they broke in pretty quickly and that went away. Was the feeling you experienced like that?
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I think GH reviewed Lurpivs and Aces and his breakdown sounded considerably different.
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I think GH reviewed Lurpivs and Aces and his breakdown sounded considerably different.
I won't speak for him.
I hate on my own terms.
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Had my fourth sessions on the Slappy trucks today. I almost gave up on them because they were too squirrelly for my taste but I did something I said I wouldn’t do to them. I put Indy orange aftermarket bushings in them and they feel GREAT. The top bushing was a couple mils bigger and I think it made a difference. They don’t feel as squirrels to me and I was able to get some tricks back that I was struggling on with them. Im an awful crooked grinder but I made myself get ten in a row before I left the park tonight. I’m probably going to keep them on for a while longer since I’m really loving them after today.
When you saw squirrelly, what are are you comparing them too?
Can you compare them to an ACE?
I’ve honestly never ridden ace, but from what I’ve read, that’s what i would say I meant by squirrelly. I didn’t have them super loose, but I was getting what felt like speed wobbles at moderate to low speeds. They still do it with the Indy bushings but in a more manageable way.
When I tried out lurpivs they felt REALLY weird until the bushings broke in. like more so than usual, and they share a similar short/fat top bushing with slappy's so maybe thats the feeling? The only way i can describe it, is it was as if my trucks were turning independently of each other, almost like i had coaster wheels (think ripstick) on my board. thankfully they broke in pretty quickly and that went away. Was the feeling you experienced like that?
Wonder if it has to do with Lurpiv using a tall boardside bushing and a short top bushing. This combo tends to lead to a snappy self-centering but surf-y feel.
Anyways, I wrote a skate joke I'm sure you'll love: Why did the bushing break up with his girlfriend? Because he wasn't bearing the relationship anymore. haha
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I would love to try these. I like Sinclair. I watched his 9 club like 2.5x and took a ton of samples. The olliers release never happened and i can't remember exactly what he said. The episode was full of killer power violence samples.
I probably should get on that shit. Skating needs way more slamming PV always. Send the tracks to my favorite skaters in 2023 see if I can get in some YouTube edits.
That would be the shit.
Anyway He said something about being an Ollier. That was the quote that got me. He and his friends just would be driving to the spot and someone would be like "PULL OVER! We need to Ollie that shit immediately.
I relate 110. We also we're of this tribe. Go Sinclair!!!!
I definitely can't wait to try
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Just figured I would share we got them in stock.
https://www.35thave.com/shop/Skate/Trucks/Slappy.htm (https://www.35thave.com/shop/Skate/Trucks/Slappy.htm)
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I think GH reviewed Lurpivs and Aces and his breakdown sounded considerably different.
I won't speak for him.
I hate on my own terms.
GH said these were outrageously heavy. Then he said heavy like Aces or something which I don’t find to be that heavy so who knows
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I think GH reviewed Lurpivs and Aces and his breakdown sounded considerably different.
I won't speak for him.
I hate on my own terms.
GH said these were outrageously heavy. Then he said heavy like Aces or something which I don’t find to be that heavy so who knows
I feel like aces kinda need a bit of heft since the wb is so short that they lighten up your pop feel a lot.
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I think GH reviewed Lurpivs and Aces and his breakdown sounded considerably different.
I won't speak for him.
I hate on my own terms.
GH said these were outrageously heavy. Then he said heavy like Aces or something which I don’t find to be that heavy so who knows
Ace have a light feeling pop and leverage because of the wheelbase offset, but in terms of actual weight, an Ace Classic weighs about the same as Indy Standard of the same size (doesn't exist though), and it doesn't really get much heavier than that.
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Just figured I would share we got them in stock.
https://www.35thave.com/shop/Skate/Trucks/Slappy.htm (https://www.35thave.com/shop/Skate/Trucks/Slappy.htm)
considering their price its at the same level as indy and even higher than some ACE and ventures I see no reason to even try this ones
they look better than some other indy knockoffs out there but its still an indy knockoff
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If all you are doing are actual slappies, weight will mean nothing.
Sinclair was, afterall, skating curbs right before/during covid)..
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Ben DeGros should try them out first.
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Hollow IKP (and axle) coming Spring 2023
https://www.instagram.com/p/Cne3g3apY-q/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
(https://i.ibb.co/9qf04zy/BCBBF13-D-EA5-C-4-CD6-82-FA-F7-A8-F943-F6-E2.webp) (https://ibb.co/9qf04zy)
(https://i.ibb.co/yfNyWFq/BAA11-E79-AF92-49-D9-8301-64466600316-A.png) (https://ibb.co/yfNyWFq)
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My local got these but I still can't find the desire to try them
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"no break in time"?
TF?
Wasn't Ace saying this too at one point?
Just because you like the way your bushings feel when they are new doesn't mean that they dont change and break in, pivot cups too. Dumb marketing point.
My local got these but I still can't find the desire to try them
Lol
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My next setup:
8.25 Slappy trucks
54mm Powerslide wheels (No-push formula)
Hillbomb bearings (Swiss ceramic hollow balls)
8.25 Trebomb deck (Ollie-shape)
1" Drill hardware (perforated)
Grip griptape (420 grit recycled nuclear waste infused)
Slappy trucks seem legit but I couldn't ride them as a slaposer that hasn't done a single slappy in his life
Edit: Sorry no fun allowed
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So don’t buy them.
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My next setup:
8.25 Slappy trucks
54mm Powerslide wheels (No-push formula)
Hillbomb bearings (Swiss ceramic hollow balls)
8.25 Trebomb deck (Ollie-shape)
1" Drill hardware (perforated)
Grip griptape (420 grit recycled nuclear waste infused)
Slappy trucks seem legit but I couldn't ride them as a slaposer that hasn't done a single slappy in his life
Edit: Sorry no fun allowed
(https://media.tenor.com/PLpe-LYpJUcAAAAC/shame-gameofthrones.gif)
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BOUGHT A PAIR!
'cuz I wanna support one of the good guys......
Don't care that I already have a pair of Indys and ACES cuz I have a job and can afford $60 to try something new and enjoy slappies.
BRB....
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My next setup:
8.25 Slappy trucks
54mm Powerslide wheels (No-push formula)
Hillbomb bearings (Swiss ceramic hollow balls)
8.25 Trebomb deck (Ollie-shape)
1" Drill hardware (perforated)
Grip griptape (420 grit recycled nuclear waste infused)
Slappy trucks seem legit but I couldn't ride them as a slaposer that hasn't done a single slappy in his life
Edit: Sorry no fun allowed
(https://media.tenor.com/PLpe-LYpJUcAAAAC/shame-gameofthrones.gif)
I've been watching GoT for the first time, and just got to this episode last night..... really weird timing.
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BOUGHT A PAIR!
'cuz I wanna support one of the good guys......
Don't care that I already have a pair of Indys and ACES cuz I have a job and can afford $60 to try something new and enjoy slappies.
BRB....
a fellow adult with expendable income for his hobby? high five, brother!
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If he is making hollows, I suppose that means that his first run has sold decently well.
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It doesn’t hurt that he had distribution before he had product. That really helps with not overbuying. You can load up just enough product to virtually almost sell out of everything and put the money directly into the next run/idea.
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I just started skating the 8.75’s. I swapped out the stiff ass bushings and replaced them with some ventures. I love how these trucks feel. The grind is so good. I am a fan so far.
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Paul Schmitt has been riding Slappy trucks, and posted on Instagram how they affected wheelbase: average.
https://www.instagram.com/p/Cn-9tV2MQSZ/
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Paul Schmitt has been riding Slappy trucks, and posted on Instagram how they affected wheelbase: average.
https://www.instagram.com/p/Cn-9tV2MQSZ/
neat, here's the numbers from the post for posterity
2.69” Ace Classic 44
2.89” Krux Standard 8.5”
3.00” Indy 144 Hollow
3.01” Tensor Mag Lite 5.75”
3.06” Slappy
3.29” (Thunder) Classic 145
3.32” Venture 5.2” Polished
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He did something like this before and it’s the second time he’s skipped over thunders.
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He did something like this before and it’s the second time he’s skipped over thunders.
In the post he tags Thunder next to “classic 145”
It’s a typo.
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Wonder if they fit (splines don't always match)?
(https://i.ibb.co/vL7zMbq/unnamed-2.png) (https://ibb.co/vL7zMbq)
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Insta has the hollows slated for March 01
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New review from Dad Board just out:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiVcnvOFTEs
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Just ordered a set of the 8.25, since i bought a bunch of 8.25 decks (trying to size down from 8.5). Hopefully they live up to the hype and turn really well. Excited to see how they skate
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i didn't even realize mike sinclair skated
https://www.instagram.com/p/B4kOXNKhXqH/?igshid=NDk5N2NlZjQ=
4th slide blue shirt 8)
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i didn't even realize mike sinclair skated
4th slide blue shirt 8)
Sinclair, god of gonads
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i didn't even realize mike sinclair skated
4th slide blue shirt 8)
Sinclair, god of gonads
How you gonna skate
And not know Larry Perkins?
You're on Slap running gums
Jerking gherkins
Big Pink ripped
And his alias did too
Niggas don't know
What Lil Playa could do
He has 411 footage
And a line in Shit
It's not my onus
So you can find it
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Skatewarehouse slappy order got cancelled due to them not being in stock and website not being up to date. Didnt feel like waiting so ordered some ace classics. Was on the fence about the slappys anyways so maybe it was a sign
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Our distro just told us that their has shipment is en route and will be available early next week. Should see them popping up in shops soon after. That first 1 and a half runs seemed to sell quick.
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Im not massively incentivized to try them. Pretty happy with everything about ACE, but I do appreciate the simplicity of their sizes and the simplicity of their marketing and hey, Sinclair is a nice young man.
and the dad board review is pretty ok, though I think he said subjective when he meant objective? still, seems like a good dude.
I'm slappy curious but I have a set of classics and a set of AF1s in my preferred 9" that are gonna last me a long time and then two pairs of 8.75s that barely have a scratch.
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Im not massively incentivized to try them. Pretty happy with everything about ACE, but I do appreciate the simplicity of their sizes and the simplicity of their marketing and hey, Sinclair is a nice young man.
and the dad board review is pretty ok, though I think he said subjective when he meant objective? still, seems like a good dude.
I'm slappy curious but I have a set of classics and a set of AF1s in my preferred 9" that are gonna last me a long time and then two pairs of 8.75s that barely have a scratch.
no, subjective was correct. He was giving his opinions on how he liked the truck, which would be his subjective experience. That vs objective which would be "these trucks are silver and 8.5 inches wide"
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Im not massively incentivized to try them. Pretty happy with everything about ACE, but I do appreciate the simplicity of their sizes and the simplicity of their marketing and hey, Sinclair is a nice young man.
and the dad board review is pretty ok, though I think he said subjective when he meant objective? still, seems like a good dude.
I'm slappy curious but I have a set of classics and a set of AF1s in my preferred 9" that are gonna last me a long time and then two pairs of 8.75s that barely have a scratch.
no, subjective was correct. He was giving his opinions on how he liked the truck, which would be his subjective experience. That vs objective which would be "these trucks are silver and 8.5 inches wide"
So first off, your assessment of the use is wrong. An objective review would include his opinion on the use, coming into the review with an unbiased perspective.
Second, for a review of a product, you would always want it to be objective.
Here, let me google it for you.
Subjective:Based on or influenced by personal feelings, tastes, or opinions.
Objective: (of a person or their judgement) not influenced by personal feelings or opinions in considering and representing facts.
If they grind well and are good trucks, he would state it as such in an objective opinion.
if he was carrying bias into the review and letting his use of other trucks cloud his perspective on Slappys, then it would be subjective. You want to annihilate bias as much as possible. If a review is subjective, it might as well be on Slappy website.
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I feel like the stage 4 release made these even less desireable now. Turn>KP clearance. Ace and Indy still have Slappy beat in that aspect, now.
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I feel like the stage 4 release made these even less desireable now. Turn>KP clearance. Ace and Indy still have Slappy beat in that aspect, now.
Opposite for me, I'm more interested in trying out the hollow slappys than another indy varient.
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Once again, I think the appeal of a brand like Slappy isn't necessarily "these trucks will fix all the issues I have with other trucks" and more "here's a small, somewhat interesting brand from an industry veteran, one which is different than the big 3."
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Im not massively incentivized to try them. Pretty happy with everything about ACE, but I do appreciate the simplicity of their sizes and the simplicity of their marketing and hey, Sinclair is a nice young man.
and the dad board review is pretty ok, though I think he said subjective when he meant objective? still, seems like a good dude.
I'm slappy curious but I have a set of classics and a set of AF1s in my preferred 9" that are gonna last me a long time and then two pairs of 8.75s that barely have a scratch.
no, subjective was correct. He was giving his opinions on how he liked the truck, which would be his subjective experience. That vs objective which would be "these trucks are silver and 8.5 inches wide"
So first off, your assessment of the use is wrong. An objective review would include his opinion on the use, coming into the review with an unbiased perspective.
Second, for a review of a product, you would always want it to be objective.
Here, let me google it for you.
Subjective:Based on or influenced by personal feelings, tastes, or opinions.
Objective: (of a person or their judgement) not influenced by personal feelings or opinions in considering and representing facts.
If they grind well and are good trucks, he would state it as such in an objective opinion.
if he was carrying bias into the review and letting his use of other trucks cloud his perspective on Slappys, then it would be subjective. You want to annihilate bias as much as possible. If a review is subjective, it might as well be on Slappy website.
I see what you're saying, that makes sense.
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Once again, I think the appeal of a brand like Slappy isn't necessarily "these trucks will fix all the issues I have with other trucks" and more "here's a small, somewhat interesting brand from an industry veteran, one which is different than the big 3."
is this a small brand? or just upgraded tumyeto mall trucks? idk, i don't follow those dudes.
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analization jig? the prof should be in horny jail
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"here's a small, somewhat interesting brand from an industry veteran, one which is different than the big 3."
And that's why I am more interested in them over these Stage IVs. I've ridden OG Stage IVs and ACEs, classics/lo and AF1/lows.
If I wanted a Stage IV I'd get Hollow AF1s :P
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anyones local or anyone seen the hollow inverted online yet?
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Just placed a pretty good sized order for some of every size and style. Will have them on the site quickly after they arrive.
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Did someone manage to get the height of these trucks?
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Did someone manage to get the height of these trucks?
Yes, Slappy did:
https://www.slappytrucks.com/specs
53.9mm (all trucks)
(https://i.ibb.co/3s19V5G/Screenshot-2023-03-01-093425.png) (https://ibb.co/3s19V5G)
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In my jubjective opinion, they should be able to handle big drops.
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For some perspective it’s Mike and a friend running the brand and shipping product.
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For some perspective it’s Mike and a friend running the brand and shipping product.
It’s really interesting that the real garage brands, skater owned and operated brands, street plant, black label, now these… never get any love (nfg rip) but oh boy, them kids sure do love the indie board brand #4567 using generic BBS shapes…
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Label is untouchable, shit I'd skate lucero's boards forever and ever but he does also use generic BBS shapes with mainly the same boring 14.5 wheelbase. I wish he did runs of popsicles with the short wheelbases like those "misregister" eagles.
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Label is untouchable, shit I'd skate lucero's boards forever and ever but he does also use generic BBS shapes with mainly the same boring 14.5 wheelbase. I wish he did runs of popsicles with the short wheelbases like those "misregister" eagles.
Yup...Not a fan of the WB/dims on label or I would totally ride/support them. Same goes for Street Plant and they giant ass WBs.
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anyones local or anyone seen the hollow inverted online yet?
https://www.warehouseskateboards.com/skateboard-trucks#class=1t&pg=1&brand=SLP|&category=2256|
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8.25" IKP Hollows just landed on my doorstep.
They don't seem as heavy in hand as I was expecting (hollows or not)...that grind clearance tho, damn...pics kinda do it justice but seeing it in person, it's crazy, The top bushing is lower than a standard top but still taller than a 'low' top, the top of the IKP is damn near, if not at the bottom of the axle; lube in the pivot cavity. Also, and I'm sure most interested already know, but there is no 'shaft nut' for the IKP like Indy/Krux/Royal, just a regs kingpin nut jammed into a round cavity.
It's still moist where I am with more rain on the way, probably won't get to them until the weekend.
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I'll definitely try these now they've got the hollows. Next trucks.
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8.25" IKP Hollows just landed on my doorstep.
They don't seem as heavy in hand as I was expecting (hollows or not)...that grind clearance tho, damn...pics kinda do it justice but seeing it in person, it's crazy, The top bushing is lower than a standard top but still taller than a 'low' top, the top of the IKP is damn near, if not at the bottom of the axle; lube in the pivot cavity. Also, and I'm sure most interested already know, but there is no 'shaft nut' for the IKP like Indy/Krux/Royal, just a regs kingpin nut jammed into a round cavity.
It's still moist where I am with more rain on the way, probably won't get to them until the weekend.
I am extremely excited to hear what you think about them. I liked my regular IKPs well enough. They’re just very heavy which is why I switched them out. I want the hollow slappys but I don’t NEED the hollow slappys lol.
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8.25" IKP Hollows just landed on my doorstep.
They don't seem as heavy in hand as I was expecting (hollows or not)...that grind clearance tho, damn...pics kinda do it justice but seeing it in person, it's crazy, The top bushing is lower than a standard top but still taller than a 'low' top, the top of the IKP is damn near, if not at the bottom of the axle; lube in the pivot cavity. Also, and I'm sure most interested already know, but there is no 'shaft nut' for the IKP like Indy/Krux/Royal, just a regs kingpin nut jammed into a round cavity.
It's still moist where I am with more rain on the way, probably won't get to them until the weekend.
I am extremely excited to hear what you think about them. I liked my regular IKPs well enough. They’re just very heavy which is why I switched them out. I want the hollow slappys but I don’t NEED the hollow slappys lol.
It’s raining here again as predicted, so who knows when I’m gonna get to them.
I definitely didn’t need them…. They’re not super light I mean they’re the same weight as an indie hollow maybe a gram or two lighter… so still have some heft
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8.25" IKP Hollows just landed on my doorstep.
They don't seem as heavy in hand as I was expecting (hollows or not)...that grind clearance tho, damn...pics kinda do it justice but seeing it in person, it's crazy, The top bushing is lower than a standard top but still taller than a 'low' top, the top of the IKP is damn near, if not at the bottom of the axle; lube in the pivot cavity. Also, and I'm sure most interested already know, but there is no 'shaft nut' for the IKP like Indy/Krux/Royal, just a regs kingpin nut jammed into a round cavity.
It's still moist where I am with more rain on the way, probably won't get to them until the weekend.
I am extremely excited to hear what you think about them. I liked my regular IKPs well enough. They’re just very heavy which is why I switched them out. I want the hollow slappys but I don’t NEED the hollow slappys lol.
It’s raining here again as predicted, so who knows when I’m gonna get to them.
I definitely didn’t need them…. They’re not super light I mean they’re the same weight as an indie hollow maybe a gram or two lighter… so still have some heft
I’m on Indy forged hollows right now so that sounds comfy.
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For some perspective it’s Mike and a friend running the brand and shipping product.
It’s really interesting that the real garage brands, skater owned and operated brands, street plant, black label, now these… never get any love (nfg rip) but oh boy, them kids sure do love the indie board brand #4567 using generic BBS shapes…
It's because kids don't need some specific specialty shape or gear to rip and those brands you mentioned hasn't produced any marketing media that speaks to them. No one cares to support anything solely because the person running it rides a skateboard. I've met plenty of skaters that I don't care to support financially.
Example: A group of skaters around me love Loophole wheels but have never heard of NFG when I tried to talk to them about it even tho that's who made their products at the time. Branding is everything and those garage brands have too much trust in the charm of being a DIY operation or their legacy being a selling point.
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We got almost the full run of styles and sizes, no 8.75 standard hollows.
https://www.35thave.com/module/search_content.htm?form_version=2&showSearchResults=1&search_keyword=Slappy+trucks&image.x=0&image.y=0
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Also, and I'm sure most interested already know, but there is no 'shaft nut' for the IKP like Indy/Krux/Royal, just a regs kingpin nut jammed into a round cavity
I’m curious to see how that nut situation holds up and whether or not the kingpin loosens with use. That seems to be a common feature of IKP trucks. Hopefully it’s more secure than Lurpiv’s nut.
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I’m back riding the IKP wave. Just gotta buy loctite and anytime you fuck with your trucks and take ‘em apart, clean off the threading on the kingpin with some rubbing alcohol real quick, then apply loctite again and good to go. So if these slappy trucks have the same issue, just scoop some loctite.
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Also, and I'm sure most interested already know, but there is no 'shaft nut' for the IKP like Indy/Krux/Royal, just a regs kingpin nut jammed into a round cavity
I’m curious to see how that nut situation holds up and whether or not the kingpin loosens with use. That seems to be a common feature of IKP trucks. Hopefully it’s more secure than Lurpiv’s nut.
Mine did. I’ve read (although i haven’t tried myself) that the AF1 kingpin nut with retreaded built in keep them from loosening if you’re not wanting to do loctite.
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This may have been mentioned already, but does anyone know if these suck in the wheelbase similar to an Indy? Or what effect these have on wheelbase in general?
I want to try the hollow IKP even though I really don’t need more gear rn
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This may have been mentioned already, but does anyone know if these suck in the wheelbase similar to an Indy? Or what effect these have on wheelbase in general?
I want to try the hollow IKP even though I really don’t need more gear rn
If memory serves, +3.1 ish similar to Indy forged?
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First session, new deck (14.20" ish WB, mellow kicks), 8.25" trucks and 52mm spit classics.
Nut flush (IKP) - I did adjust both trucks prior to setting up (one was cranked down more than flush), stock everything.
These are easily the most skateable trucks out of the bag I've ever ridden. Zero adjustment (after setting nut flush). 185lbs right now and they were perfect (just a tad 'new bushing' feel, but they broke in very fast during a ~2hr session). Unless the bushings get super smooshy I don't see the need to adjust them, even after they break in.
Pinch/Grind - They do. Feel like grinding indys. Fast(er? I did slip out on the tail end of quite a few b-side 50s and 5-Os), loud and smooth. Definitely not soft like ACE Classics and not hard like Venture/AF1(and to some extent, Royal). Grinds were done on heavy rain-washed (for like 3 fucking weeks) well skated curbs (no wax).
Turn: Great! Not sure, but somewhere between ACE (not as squirrly) and Indy (faster turn yet still stable when you need them). If anything there is just a hint of initial turn delay but I'm chalking that up to new bushings as just pushing/front foot steering and swerving around they did what I wanted.
Bushings are super spongy/bouncy feeling, lots of rebound, they feel very very lively. Very different than ACE /Royal / Indy stocks
Pop feel is very light, I was surprised, I was expecting any Indy feel.
Weight: They're hefty, no denying it (coming off Thunder Team hollow).
They're honestly, fantastic if you want an ACE/INDY/ML turn but feel like each one of those isn't just right (slow/squirrly/heavy/soft/too low). Again; the best set and forget trucks out of the bag I've ever set up.
Wheelbite: Never got pitched and the marks are super small:
Front Truck TOE side :
(https://i.ibb.co/FJ98Fgg/IMG-3960.jpg) (https://ibb.co/FJ98Fgg)
Front Truck HEEL side (fucking tiny):
(https://i.ibb.co/Sw7vSbV/IMG-3959.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Sw7vSbV)
No wheelbite marks at all for the rear trucks, either side.
I'll check back in after a few more sessions...but color me impressed AF.
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This may have been mentioned already, but does anyone know if these suck in the wheelbase similar to an Indy? Or what effect these have on wheelbase in general?
I want to try the hollow IKP even though I really don’t need more gear rn
If memory serves, +3.1 ish similar to Indy forged?
(https://i.ibb.co/gm3Dv7F/Screenshot-2023-03-18-201504.png) (https://ibb.co/gm3Dv7F)
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This may have been mentioned already, but does anyone know if these suck in the wheelbase similar to an Indy? Or what effect these have on wheelbase in general?
I want to try the hollow IKP even though I really don’t need more gear rn
If memory serves, +3.1 ish similar to Indy forged?
(https://i.ibb.co/gm3Dv7F/Screenshot-2023-03-18-201504.png) (https://ibb.co/gm3Dv7F)
Ah, so close yet so far away. Thanks for re-sharing that, I forgot Schmitt did those measurements
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Awesome info!! I was looking for reviews on Hollow slap trucks and came across this. You would say they are much lighter than independent hollows? I ordered the hollow 8.5 in. Thanks for link
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BOOM!
(https://i.ibb.co/W21tqc0/IMG-20230320-193025-490.webp) (https://ibb.co/rwJsTZ3)
(https://i.ibb.co/vHDvzwd/IMG-20230320-193025-767.webp) (https://ibb.co/G0F3PxM)
(https://i.ibb.co/gwctkdy/IMG-20230320-193025-645.webp) (https://ibb.co/sQXs8Cj)
(https://i.ibb.co/bBcZjq5/IMG-20230320-193025-983.webp) (https://ibb.co/VSfZ0rY)
whispering pines elementary (https://nonprofitlight.com/fl/boca-raton/pta-whispering-pines-elementary)
I'll do some comparison to other 8.25 trucks when I get home tomorrow
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Awesome info!! I was looking for reviews on Hollow slap trucks and came across this. You would say they are much lighter than independent hollows? I ordered the hollow 8.5 in. Thanks for link
Apples to apples (Indys listed are cast hollow):
Slappy 8.25" 362g
Indy 144 - 363g
Slappy 8.5" 368g
Indy 149 - 369g
So, yeah, they're lighter? :P
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I’ve got no plans to get these, and yet….I want to hear aaaaaaall about how they skate
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If I had to sum it up, they took the best from ACE and Indy, but more stable than either, with none of the drawbacks, except weight.
Which got me thinking, how fucking hard is it to make a truck that has ACE/INDY characteristics and make it light (no special metals, mind), like say, a Thunder team hollow or some shit (I see you ML, but not a low)?
You've got the 'light truck' camp over there with Thunder/Venture/Royal, but they are have that similar 'not ACE/Indy' turn, you know? For trucks to skate like Indy they have to be heavy? Looking at you ACE and Slappy (Lurpiv...industrial, z-flex, Paris, whateverthefukc, too).
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If I had to sum it up, they took the best from ACE and Indy, but more stable than either, with none of the drawbacks, except weight.
Which got me thinking, how fucking hard is it to make a truck that has ACE/INDY characteristics and make it light (no special metals, mind), like say, a Thunder team hollow or some shit (I see you ML, but not a low)?
You've got the 'light truck' camp over there with Thunder/Venture/Royal, but they are have that similar 'not ACE/Indy' turn, you know? For trucks to skate like Indy they have to be heavy? Looking at you ACE and Slappy (Lurpiv...industrial, z-flex, Paris, whateverthefukc, too).
That is an interesting point: the turn is heavy.
How’s the slappy pop?
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If I had to sum it up, they took the best from ACE and Indy, but more stable than either, with none of the drawbacks, except weight.
Which got me thinking, how fucking hard is it to make a truck that has ACE/INDY characteristics and make it light (no special metals, mind), like say, a Thunder team hollow or some shit (I see you ML, but not a low)?
You've got the 'light truck' camp over there with Thunder/Venture/Royal, but they are have that similar 'not ACE/Indy' turn, you know? For trucks to skate like Indy they have to be heavy? Looking at you ACE and Slappy (Lurpiv...industrial, z-flex, Paris, whateverthefukc, too).
That is an interesting point: the turn is heavy.
How’s the slappy pop?
Lighter than expected but still feels like an ACE/Indy feel. Running on a short WB (14 3/8th), normally I only run indy/ace on 14.3x + WBs to pull them in some. I'm going to move them over to a longer WB at some point.
Make no mistake, they are firmly in the Indy/ACE (theeve, real close to theeve) camp for turn feel, IF ACE and Indy had a baby = Slappy..I mean, just look at them =)
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Which got me thinking, how fucking hard is it to make a truck that has ACE/INDY characteristics and make it light (no special metals, mind), like say, a Thunder team hollow or some shit (I see you ML, but not a low)?
My guess is really hard? I think it comes down to height and the length of the kingpin needing to be longer in order to give a deeper turn. With a taller kingpin, I assume the hanger has to be beefed up to both support the extra height and to give a reasonable clearance. All this goes towards weight being heavier. I think thunder is able to do the thinner hangers since its lower and the center of gravity isn't as dramatic. Could be wrong but thats my thinking.
Also, one of the appeals of indy and to an extent, ace, is that the hangers are more substantial and carry through crustier grinds better. This is my experience at least.
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I’ve got a lightly used pair, they aren’t for me..If anyone is curious to try them, I’m willing to trade for comparable Indy or Ace..
8.75” wide ...
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(https://i.ibb.co/vHDvzwd/IMG-20230320-193025-767.webp) (https://ibb.co/G0F3PxM)
I'll do some comparison to other 8.25 trucks when I get home tomorrow
Man from this angle they kinda look like a theeve and indy had a head on collision.
Can any of you guys compare them to destructo d1?
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I’ve got a lightly used pair, they aren’t for me..If anyone is curious to try them, I’m willing to trade for comparable Indy or Ace..
8.75” wide ...
inverted kp?
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I'm glad people are enjoying these and they arent just some useless crap flooding the market. Really, as a gear nerd I like hearing about people being stoked on their shit, honestly.
But god damn, I can't stand looking at them.
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They Manny and grind very nicely. Turn is basically indyism if I remember correctly. It's been some years since I last indyed
Bushings are definitely aceism. I'm going to swap out if anything fits
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I'm glad people are enjoying these and they arent just some useless crap flooding the market. Really, as a gear nerd I like hearing about people being stoked on their shit, honestly.
But god damn, I can't stand looking at them.
Yeah, they look like some trucks off a Walmart complete. The tech and performance might be there but I have to be physically attracted to my trucks.
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So I threw flat washers on um. I hate regular shape bushing washers. I never ever use those on anything anymore. The industry should just switch. I'm pretty sure in the 70s and 80s most washers were flat. Some trucks had double barrels too.
I noticed the the pivot cups are nicely lubricated. I was kinda shocked to see that attention to detail.
I'm dumping my risers. Even with a 58 it's unnecessary
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So I threw flat washers on um. I hate regular shape bushing washers. I never ever use those on anything anymore. The industry should just switch. I'm pretty sure in the 70s and 80s most washers were flat. Some trucks had double barrels too.
Yes, flat washers are a simple way of getting a looser feeling truck. I've found it hard to get small ones for the top though.
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So I threw flat washers on um. I hate regular shape bushing washers. I never ever use those on anything anymore. The industry should just switch. I'm pretty sure in the 70s and 80s most washers were flat. Some trucks had double barrels too.
Yes, flat washers are a simple way of getting a looser feeling truck. I've found it hard to get small ones for the top though.
I almost used bottle caps.
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So I threw flat washers on um. I hate regular shape bushing washers. I never ever use those on anything anymore. The industry should just switch. I'm pretty sure in the 70s and 80s most washers were flat. Some trucks had double barrels too.
Yes, flat washers are a simple way of getting a looser feeling truck. I've found it hard to get small ones for the top though.
I almost used bottle caps.
saving this idea in the back of my head for a rainy day
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That hanger shape is so nice for slappy crooks. I never ever do those and boom I'm like popping out. I did like 5 and ate total shit.
Flat washers helps big time.
Smaller wheels is better with these.
Here's what I chose
Too early to say much now I think about it
(https://i.ibb.co/Zh5d9MX/16798802729401247138967704179036.jpg) (https://ibb.co/sFnj7VR)
(https://i.ibb.co/yFdDgTX/16798803207011221036703208550863.jpg) (https://ibb.co/8gNJP30)
(https://i.ibb.co/mzjGdhp/IMG-20230326-212932133.jpg) (https://ibb.co/w6kR8pt)
What the flat washers look like
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I was thinking about swapping to a flat washer as the stock washer looks like it's binding to me, if you ride loose there is next to no room between the hanger
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I was thinking about swapping to a flat washer as the stock washer looks like it's binding to me, if you ride loose there is next to no room between the hanger
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So, Theeve 4.0 without TI?
That is some serious grind clearance tho...
Been a while, but I skated with an old homie whom I gifted some Theeve a while back and took them for a spin....
They're almost the same damn feeling truck, just taller; feel pretty spot on having called them Theeve 4.0. Faster initial turn than Indy, and stable when you need them, very much ACE deep turn without wheelbite but with that center stability Theeve used.
Even the yoke (and under hanger design is silimlar).
Slappy Trucks, the brother from another, and another, and another mother.
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So, Theeve 4.0 without TI?
That is some serious grind clearance tho...
Been a while, but I skated with an old homie whom I gifted some Theeve a while back and took them for a spin....
They're almost the same damn feeling truck, just taller; feel pretty spot on having called them Theeve 4.0. Faster initial turn than Indy, and stable when you need them, very much ACE deep turn without wheelbite but with that center stability Theeve used.
Even the yoke (and under hanger design is silimlar).
Slappy Trucks, the brother from another, and another, and another mother.
As someone who came directly from Theeve to Slappy, can confirm! I noticed that I didn't have a lot to say about them other than them feeling perfect for me. Just a slightly taller Theeve with even better kingpin clearance. Like an Indy with better turn stability. Like an Ace with better pop and less wheelbite.
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So, Theeve 4.0 without TI?
That is some serious grind clearance tho...
Been a while, but I skated with an old homie whom I gifted some Theeve a while back and took them for a spin....
They're almost the same damn feeling truck, just taller; feel pretty spot on having called them Theeve 4.0. Faster initial turn than Indy, and stable when you need them, very much ACE deep turn without wheelbite but with that center stability Theeve used.
Even the yoke (and under hanger design is silimlar).
Slappy Trucks, the brother from another, and another, and another mother.
As someone who came directly from Theeve to Slappy, can confirm! I noticed that I didn't have a lot to say about them other than them feeling perfect for me. Just a slightly taller Theeve with even better kingpin clearance. Like an Indy with better turn stability. Like an Ace with better pop and less wheelbite.
(https://i.ibb.co/1mv8NN3/Screenshot-2023-04-13-182711.png) (https://ibb.co/1mv8NN3)
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I was thinking about swapping to a flat washer as the stock washer looks like it's binding to me, if you ride loose there is next to no room between the hanger
Yeah, I've been having issues with the top washer as well. I felt like I had to ride them stock at first to get a feel for them. Bad idea. It started digging into my top bushing immediately. I seriously don't understand why they insist on using cupped washers.
This is after the first session. Some big pieces had already fallen off
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The slappy hollow IKP is not compatible with Indy or Royal IKP plates (it's too short / not enough threads).
That is all.
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I noticed the the pivot cups are nicely lubricated. I was kinda shocked to see that attention to detail.
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So I threw flat washers on um. I hate regular shape bushing washers. I never ever use those on anything anymore. The industry should just switch. I'm pretty sure in the 70s and 80s most washers were flat. Some trucks had double barrels too.
Yes, flat washers are a simple way of getting a looser feeling truck. I've found it hard to get small ones for the top though.
I almost used bottle caps.
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So I threw flat washers on um. I hate regular shape bushing washers. I never ever use those on anything anymore. The industry should just switch. I'm pretty sure in the 70s and 80s most washers were flat. Some trucks had double barrels too.
Yes, flat washers are a simple way of getting a looser feeling truck. I've found it hard to get small ones for the top though.
I almost used bottle caps.
genius..
Fury X Lowcard did this
(https://www.saltypeaks.com/pi/p15351-Truck_FuryLowCardCollab.jpg)
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So I threw flat washers on um. I hate regular shape bushing washers. I never ever use those on anything anymore. The industry should just switch. I'm pretty sure in the 70s and 80s most washers were flat. Some trucks had double barrels too.
Yes, flat washers are a simple way of getting a looser feeling truck. I've found it hard to get small ones for the top though.
I almost used bottle caps.
genius..
I got it from freestyle heads. They do it to have more traction when standing in the truck.
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Looks punk as fuck tho.
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Looks punk as fuck tho.
I agree. It's a very good look.
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I bought an 8.25" set of the hollow axle / hollow inverted kingpin trucks, and I love them. Great turn, great grind, great manual, great compliments from interested folks at my local park, great vibes all around. And I do like seeing that Slappy logo on the baseplate when I'm looking at my setup. I'm thinking about getting a set of the solid axle / inverted kingpin Slappys for my cruiser board.
I swapped out the bushings (the ones I like are much harder than the stock bushings), and then I put a pair of hollow Krux DLKs on them too, and they're spectacular. The kingpin swap may be more for mental reasons than anything else: Those Krux DLKs weigh 20 grams, the hollow inverted kingpins that come with the Slappy's are 25 grams, and the solid inverted kingpins that NHS makes and puts in their Indy and Krux inverted kingpin trucks are 30 grams.
I was riding a pair of Frankenstein'd Independent Mids with a hollow 144 axle and the same kingpin and bushing setup as above, but wanted to give Mike's trucks a try.
I am worried about how the axle nut just sits in the Slappy Baseplate (it's a hex bed setup) because I had a set of Krux K4's that were built like that, and over time the axle nut stretched out the baseplate and those kingpins would move around laterally. If that happens with the Slappy Trucks I'll try JB Welding that sumbitch in place, or if the baseplate gets fucked, try putting the Slappy Hanger on the Indy Mid Baseplate (I do like how the kingpin screws into those).
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So I threw flat washers on um. I hate regular shape bushing washers. I never ever use those on anything anymore. The industry should just switch. I'm pretty sure in the 70s and 80s most washers were flat. Some trucks had double barrels too.
Yes, flat washers are a simple way of getting a looser feeling truck. I've found it hard to get small ones for the top though.
I almost used bottle caps.
genius..
(https://www.saltypeaks.com/pi/p15351-Truck_FuryLowCardCollab.jpg)
those bottle caps actually looks good..
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It took a minute, but now I know why there’s less wheelbite using Slappy trucks:
Because as the bushings break in and get squishy the washer binds, but not where you typically think it would (like with a venture behind king nut), it actually binds on the left and right side as you lean into your turn.
(https://i.ibb.co/zb5CFjd/IMG-4212.jpg) (https://ibb.co/zb5CFjd)
Just using hand strength whatever the fuck my grip strength is, I’m not touching the board with the wheel but my washer is now bound up against the hanger and I can’t turn any more, the board just lifts off the ground at that point.
This photo having switched to flat sleeved washers, you can see or maybe you can’t but it’s what’s happening, I’m now able to use hand strength and get the wheel to wheelbite, but I am no longer bound at the washer/hanger contact point you’ll also note, the ridges in the top bushings are exactly where the washer is digging in/or compressing to their max using the stock washer.
(https://i.ibb.co/C1BmwnB/IMG-4213.jpg) (https://ibb.co/C1BmwnB)
I bones washer also works fine for this.
Still really like them tho...!
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made in china with exclusive trucks for zumiez i can't support them anymore, gone back to thunder team standard
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Really loving my set so far. I got the hollow IKP in 8.5. They're relatively new but they grind really well and once I took out the bottom washer they turn beautifully. The top washer is kind of ripping at the top as people have mentioned but I don't really mind it :)
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made in china with exclusive trucks for zumiez i can't support them anymore, gone back to thunder team standard
Mind to elaborate? Don’t know anything about your claims
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Slappy's are available in the UK now, but there's no distribution in Europe yet. Hopefully, I will be able to buy a pair without paying taxes soon now that they're being distributed with Enjoi and Madness 2.0
https://blacksheepstore.co.uk/collections/skateboards/slappy-trucks
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made in china with exclusive trucks for zumiez i can't support them anymore, gone back to thunder team standard
Mind to elaborate? Don’t know anything about your claims
email i got sent from slappy:
The top bushing you mentioned is most likely from me designing the first round of washers too close to the actual size of the bushing. I will open the washer up / make larger to avoid the bushing to bubble over. I am also working on harder and softer replacement bushings as well. I would cone the bushing more but I love how it turns so I didn’t want to change a thing. Glad to hear a new washer is helping. The trucks are designed and tested in the USA but currently the trucks are being manufactured in China.
zumiez exclusive trucks not available anywhere else:
https://www.zumiez.com/brands/slappy-truck-company.html
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made in china with exclusive trucks for zumiez i can't support them anymore, gone back to thunder team standard
Mind to elaborate? Don’t know anything about your claims
The top bushing you mentioned is most likely from me designing the first round of washers too close to the actual size of the bushing. I will open the washer up / make larger to avoid the bushing to bubble over. I am also working on harder and softer replacement bushings as well. I would cone the bushing more but I love how it turns so I didn’t want to change a thing. Glad to hear a new washer is helping. The trucks are designed and tested in the USA but currently the trucks are being manufactured in China.
zumiez exclusive trucks not available anywhere else:
https://www.zumiez.com/brands/slappy-truck-company.html
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From personal experience, widening the washer (surface area on top of bushing) will only cause it to bind on the side of the yoke faster...odd choice.
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So I threw flat washers on um. I hate regular shape bushing washers. I never ever use those on anything anymore. The industry should just switch. I'm pretty sure in the 70s and 80s most washers were flat. Some trucks had double barrels too.
Yes, flat washers are a simple way of getting a looser feeling truck. I've found it hard to get small ones for the top though.
I almost used bottle caps.
genius..
(https://www.saltypeaks.com/pi/p15351-Truck_FuryLowCardCollab.jpg)
those bottle caps actually looks good..
They actually skate really well too. Kinda like a less twitchy feeling thunder. I still have a set around here somewhere I think.
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Cruised on my buddy's board equipped with stock slappies except he uses the OG Krux IKP's. Meh. I don't see any reason to buy these besides the kingpin clearance I guess. Indy's still turn better and they offer the same option.
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Yo.
Put soft white Indy bushing in these trucks.
Boner city yo. Boner city.
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Buddy of mine showed me his cracked baseplates yesterday, he's an older dude who is light impact type just does slow slappies and some flat ground so he doesn't really beat the hell out of his trucks. I never noticed before, but the square cutout in the middle of the baseplates for weight reduction has super thin sides so I wouldn't be surprised this keeps happening til they change the design. They are already sending out a warranty replacement which is cool, but I have a feeling he will be back on Indy and Ace soon lol.
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Buddy of mine showed me his cracked baseplates yesterday, he's an older dude who is light impact type just does slow slappies and some flat ground so he doesn't really beat the hell out of his trucks. I never noticed before, but the square cutout in the middle of the baseplates for weight reduction has super thin sides so I wouldn't be surprised this keeps happening til they change the design. They are already sending out a warranty replacement which is cool, but I have a feeling he will be back on Indy and Ace soon lol.
That reminds me of the significant number of Indy Stage 9 baseplates with those cutouts that caused the baseplate to end up in two pieces, along with any number of baseplates from Thunder, Destructo, Venture or others with similar mid cut outs to the Slappy trucks I have from over the years, when others broke them.
With the Indy trucks at least, I never broke them skating, more so when the board shot out straight into a curb hitting the truck at speed, which caused the baseplate to buckle enough to then form a crack and when taking it off the deck, tweaked it enough to have one end up with the pivot point popping out, so I guess the wrong / right amount of force in the wrong / right place and it could put a little too much stress on that weaker middle area.
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Since they are now available in Germany, i tried some and – even though i thought, i don't need another truck besides Ace – the trucks were a pleasant surprise. Changed the top washer for a flat one – kingpin nut flush: i really do like the exact right spot between squirrely and carvy. The grind is way more satisfying than with Ace, way harder
Just need to adjust to the increased height. everything, where you pop your board was off.
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zumiez exclusive trucks not available anywhere else:
https://www.zumiez.com/brands/slappy-truck-company.html
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Does this make Zoomiez more core than skate shops? I mean skate shops all carry the same shit and they all sell online. Good on you Zoomiez for standing out...Step your shit up skate shops!!
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Nah just sends home how little the industry needed Slappy and how meh they actually are.
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sorry if this is not covered but couldnt not easily find - how do slappy trucks affect WB compared to Indy's? Are they more tucked in like Aces, or more pushed out like thunders?
Something interesting is that they are only offering Forged baseplates, but maintaining that 55mm height. so they must be using a slightly longer kingpin to account for this?
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sorry if this is not covered but couldnt not easily find - how do slappy trucks affect WB compared to Indy's? Are they more tucked in like Aces, or more pushed out like thunders?
Something interesting is that they are only offering Forged baseplates, but maintaining that 55mm height. so they must be using a slightly longer kingpin to account for this?
"search this topic"
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=124231.msg3983179;topicseen#msg3983179
(https://i.ibb.co/GVGmFsV/Screenshot-2023-03-18-201504.png) (https://ibb.co/GVGmFsV)
More than Indy and presumably less than thunders
slappy 53.9mm
Indy forged are 53.5mm
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ah so they are not 55mm height! someone here told me they were!!
so really they are almost the same angle as a forged indy (only .06 difference...), and also just a touch higher (0.4mm). now it makes sense. Thank you!
So then Indy Standards still are champ for tallest truck...
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Wasn't there a brand called Standard trucks using this font for the lettrering?
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I hella back these trucks. Turn is kind of like an Indy with venture inspired stability.
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I hella back these trucks. Turn is kind of like an Indy with venture inspired stability.
Underrated truck, but you can get that same feel using hard[er] bushings in AF1s.
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Looks like forged plates are on the way
(https://i.ibb.co/Ks8NPjt/IMG-0243.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Ks8NPjt)
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Looks like forged plates are on the way
(https://i.ibb.co/Ks8NPjt/IMG-0243.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Ks8NPjt)
Or the truck just fell off…..
Stoked to hear this
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Looks like forged plates are on the way
(https://i.ibb.co/Ks8NPjt/IMG-0243.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Ks8NPjt)
I assume these will lower the trucks a bit like how it works with forged indys? I hope you can order just the plates or something, I got gifted a pair for xmas which I haven't skated yet so I wanna wear them down before trying something new and it'd be sick to just be able to swap the plates
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I hope they lower them a bit as well; thinner plate too hopefully so you don't have to crank 7/8" so much to engage all the nylon in the bolts.
Don't trust them to sell it separately as said they'd sell different bushings as well (combo duros too); but that didn't happen...new brand I get it buuuut...
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I assume these will lower the trucks a bit like how it works with forged indys?
DM'd him (like a man) and he said the height will be the same. Kinda surprised by that.
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Kinda surprised by that.
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so whats the point then? if its the same height, wouldn't the weight be close to the same?
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so whats the point then? if its the same height, wouldn't the weight be close to the same?
Marginal weight reduction, increased strength? Not that I've heard complaints about either from the [few] people I know that skate them/anything online.
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I love my slappy trucks. They've taken a beating. Probably over 3000 grinds and still look good. I only had to replace the pivot cups once.
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I love my slappy trucks. They've taken a beating. Probably over 3000 grinds and still look good. I only had to replace the pivot cups once.
i really do like those trucks. But in terms of toughness and "taking a beating" they are more in the Ace or even Venture territory. Skating mostly rather smooth slappies the last hald year (may 15 sessions), they already look rather beat. An indy would have looked better. Anyways, next one will still be Slappy trucks. still love how they turn (without the top washer) and how they grind
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people always complain about inverted kingpins sucking, are the slappy ones any different?
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people always complain about inverted kingpins sucking, are the slappy ones any different?
I've had issues with them loosening. I tried loctite, but had to resort to lightly JB-weld the nut on one of my trucks. Holding up so far.
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people always complain about inverted kingpins sucking, are the slappy ones any different?
I've had issues with them loosening. I tried loctite, but had to resort to lightly JB-weld the nut on one of my trucks. Holding up so far.
Thx for the reply, never messed with inverted kingpins since having to do shit to them goes beyond me.
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Thousands of slappys on this and no issues... I did replace the pivot cups once because they were squeaky. I mostly do slappy grinds and no kingpin loosening. I took the kingpin off when replacing the pivot cups and it feels brand new once I put the truck back together. Highly recommend I don't see what a lot of the naysayers are bringing up about the kingpin loosening.. it has tons of thread I was surprised when I checked it out that I could probably tighten it a lot more than I do.
(https://i.ibb.co/MBzS7KJ/IMG-7917.jpg)
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Thing about slappy vs mindys/royals is slappy just has a kingpin nut wedge/secured in the baseplate, not some special threaded design sleeve/shaft nut combo...so I can't see how it being upside down would cause it to loosen? Vibration in the plate traveling through the nut? I still ride my inverted 8.75 slappies on the regular and haven't needed to tighten them due to them loosening up,
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Buddy of mine showed me his cracked baseplates yesterday, he's an older dude who is light impact type just does slow slappies and some flat ground so he doesn't really beat the hell out of his trucks. I never noticed before, but the square cutout in the middle of the baseplates for weight reduction has super thin sides so I wouldn't be surprised this keeps happening til they change the design. They are already sending out a warranty replacement which is cool, but I have a feeling he will be back on Indy and Ace soon lol.
That reminds me of the significant number of Indy Stage 9 baseplates with those cutouts that caused the baseplate to end up in two pieces, along with any number of baseplates from Thunder, Destructo, Venture or others with similar mid cut outs to the Slappy trucks I have from over the years, when others broke them.
With the Indy trucks at least, I never broke them skating, more so when the board shot out straight into a curb hitting the truck at speed, which caused the baseplate to buckle enough to then form a crack and when taking it off the deck, tweaked it enough to have one end up with the pivot point popping out, so I guess the wrong / right amount of force in the wrong / right place and it could put a little too much stress on that weaker middle area.
I've broken baseplates. It happens sometimes. You'd be surprised the stomping force a few good sessions in a row can generate. I fuckin try to pow it sometimes. Mostly I bend shit.
I almost set up the slappies today. I didn't even know I still had um. I already had a 5.8 on the new stick so next time maybe.
I kinda think it's almost too pretty to skate.
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Looks like forged plates are on the way
(https://i.ibb.co/Ks8NPjt/IMG-0243.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Ks8NPjt)
Plate is looking thinner in these shots
(https://i.ibb.co/281P8d7/IMG-5881.png) (https://ibb.co/281P8d7)
(https://i.ibb.co/cD5s8q6/IMG-5882.png) (https://ibb.co/cD5s8q6)
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Looks like forged plates are on the way
(https://i.ibb.co/Ks8NPjt/IMG-0243.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Ks8NPjt)
Plate is looking thinner in these shots
(https://i.ibb.co/281P8d7/IMG-5881.png) (https://ibb.co/281P8d7)
(https://i.ibb.co/cD5s8q6/IMG-5882.png) (https://ibb.co/cD5s8q6)
hopefully there's a non-colored version of these
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Looks like forged plates are on the way
(https://i.ibb.co/Ks8NPjt/IMG-0243.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Ks8NPjt)
Plate is looking thinner in these shots
(https://i.ibb.co/281P8d7/IMG-5881.png) (https://ibb.co/281P8d7)
(https://i.ibb.co/cD5s8q6/IMG-5882.png) (https://ibb.co/cD5s8q6)
hopefully there's a non-colored version of these
Is this a forged plate? Looks cozy either way.
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Looks like forged plates are on the way
(https://i.ibb.co/Ks8NPjt/IMG-0243.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Ks8NPjt)
Plate is looking thinner in these shots
(https://i.ibb.co/281P8d7/IMG-5881.png) (https://ibb.co/281P8d7)
(https://i.ibb.co/cD5s8q6/IMG-5882.png) (https://ibb.co/cD5s8q6)
hopefully there's a non-colored version of these
Is this a forged plate? Looks cozy either way.
Yep, forged plate but same height as the cast version (neat) to retain the height and lighten them up a bit; word on the street is only these color plates at launch, silver later...
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Someone please explain to me why companies won’t make a black plate and raw hanger anymore
Mike if you’re reading this
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They just dropped 10-inch trucks too.
They are going off with expanding the range
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Someone please explain to me why companies won’t make a black plate and raw hanger anymore
Mike if you’re reading this
lol Wut?
Literally every brand that's worth skating has or has had them, Don't sleep. All readily available...and many from their respective companies last few/couple of drops...
https://shop.ccs.com/products/independent-stage-11-hollow-grant-taylor-barcode-skateboard-trucks-silver-black-159mm
(https://thedarkslide.com/cdn/shop/products/66361_540x.jpg?v=1676413538)
https://nhsskatedirect.com/products/stage-11-forged-hollow-btg-summit-silver-black-standard-skateboard-trucks-independent?variant=43202705588381
(https://nhsskatedirect.com/cdn/shop/files/71144_1000x.jpg?v=1698351929)
https://www.tactics.com/thunder/wade-desarmo-pro-hollow-lights-skateboard-trucks/polished-black-148
(https://www.warehouseskateboards.com/images/products/preview/1TTHUDESSTP47HK.jpg)
https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Thunder_Foy_Screaming_Banshee_Hollow_Light_Trucks/descpage-TUFBTR.html
(https://www.warehouseskateboards.com/images/products/hi-res/1TTHUFOYSCB49HK.jpg)
https://mesaskatesupply.com/products/ace-af1-theories-hollow-truck
(https://mesaskatesupply.com/cdn/shop/files/ACExTOA_MSSM-Product_d810986a-9839-4380-9a71-c56a47eb27f2.jpg?v=1685657932&width=713)
https://www.warehouseskateboards.com/venture-trucks-vch-skate-jawn-high-raw-black-skateboard-trucks-5.8-hanger-8.5-axle-set-of-2
(https://shop.ccs.com/cdn/shop/files/888560305236-1_1280x.jpg?v=1693261396)
(https://www.warehouseskateboards.com/venture-trucks-v-light-elise-guest-artist-high-polished-black-skateboard-trucks-5.6-hanger-8.25-axle-set-of-2)
https://www.warehouseskateboards.com/venture-trucks-v-hollow-og-wings-low-polished-black-skateboard-trucks-5.0-hanger-7.75-axle-set-of-2
(https://www.warehouseskateboards.com/images/products/hi-res/1TVEN050HOGWHKK.jpg)
https://www.warehouseskateboards.com/venture-trucks-v-light-elise-guest-artist-high-polished-black-skateboard-trucks-5.6-hanger-8.25-axle-set-of-2
(https://www.warehouseskateboards.com/images/products/hi-res/1TVEN256LELISHK.jpg)
https://garageskateshop.com/products/venture-shanahan-pro-edition-trucks?variant=40622541930656
(https://garageskateshop.com/cdn/shop/products/ve-cp-trk-d1-shanahan-pro-editions-front-VENTURE_798x798.jpg?v=1628786322)
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Ok well I DIDN'T KNOW THAT
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Ok well I DIDN'T KNOW THAT
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Is it just me, or do slappys turn better than Indy’s? Stepped on my daughters set up with Indy’s after messing around with mine with slappys and it turned but for some reason just felt stiff, both king pins are flushed too. Blew my mind had to share.
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Better? Subjective, to be sure.
Not sure if you ever tried Theeves but these are pretty much those..faster turning indy, slower turning ACE, with more stability than either. Wish they were a bit lower.
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Seeing that the forged will not give a height reduction, I was kind of bummed as these are just to tall for my liking. Currently on ace lows, they're great. But I did message slappy trucks on Instagram. I asked if they are doing something lower and I got an answer of " Testing Currently, in the works". So we'll see hopefully a lower truck.
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I’d imagine the no wheelbite guarantee would be an issue. I have a pair and they are a pretty nice truck that really clheck all boxes, but height.
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I can't believe the forged ones are the same height until someone here measures theirs. Why would they do this?
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Is it just me, or do slappys turn better than Indy’s? Stepped on my daughters set up with Indy’s after messing around with mine with slappys and it turned but for some reason just felt stiff, both king pins are flushed too. Blew my mind had to share.
That's normal. I had to put cut bushings in our kids trucks.
I suggest the Venture loose trucks truck with the green bushings for people under 100 lbs. Is100 the best truck for kids turns incredible. Can get loos like an ace but no wheel bite.
My 6.1s jingle but I can stand full weight on the rail still. Do a 360+ turn around.
I have 58mm wheel anda 1/8 riser. I'm 160lbs
Speed whobbles NEVER. I am a speed freak tho
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Someone on the Ace Thread (I don't know how to tag them, but their screenname is Here Comes A Regular) mentioned that a Slappy hanger fits perfectly on an Ace baseplate, and they work really well together. At the time I happened to be converting a pair of forged Ace baseplates to work with an inverted kingpin (JB Weld holding a kingpin nut under the baseplate), so I figured it was worth a try. Once the JB Weld cured, I set those baseplates up with my hollow Slappy hangers, and that shit changed my life.
I'm not sure if it works better (there may be a placebo effect going on), but it definitely didn't get worse. The turns and grinds felt great, the grind clearance (which was already great) improved dramatically, and everything felt just as stable as before. Also they maintain at the level of tightness I like, and I'm only having to tighten them once every few sessions, which is incredible. I bought a pair of Slappy Trucks after my frustration with my Indy Mids brought me to a breaking point: I had a LOT of lateral kingpin movement with the Indy Mids AND they came loose all the time, which was disappointing because the tech involved with those baseplates seemed like it would solve all of the problems associated with inverted kingpin trucks. Unfortunately they didn't work for me, and from reading around over here, it sounds like they didn't work for a lot of people (including the pros who had their names on those particular type of trucks). The inverted Slappys are a definite upgrade over the Indy Mids, and the addition of the Ace Baseplates were just a fun opportunity to play mad scientist, inspired by the recommendation of a great contributor to this board.
There was nothing wrong with the Slappy baseplates whatsoever, even after about a year's worth of honest wear. Those are now set up on my cruiser, where they are enjoying semi-retirement life. The Ace baseplates just happened to be a little lighter, a little stronger, and looked a lot cooler. I was also happy to see how everyone else loved the look of a black baseplate with a raw hanger, because that happened to be the color configuration I ended up with.
I am still curious about those new forged Slappy baseplates. If Slappy offers them in black, with a raw hollow hanger, and an inverted kingpin option, I'll have money ready.
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Someone on the Ace Thread (I don't know how to tag them, but their screenname is Here Comes A Regular) mentioned that a Slappy hanger fits perfectly on an Ace baseplate, and they work really well together. At the time I happened to be converting a pair of forged Ace baseplates to work with an inverted kingpin (JB Weld holding a kingpin nut under the baseplate), so I figured it was worth a try. Once the JB Weld cured, I set those baseplates up with my hollow Slappy hangers, and that shit changed my life. I'm not sure if it works better (there may be a placebo effect going on), but it definitely didn't get worse. The turns and grinds felt great, the grind clearance improved dramatically, and everything felt just as stable as before (didn't suddenly become way too loose). I bought a pair of Slappy Trucks after my frustration with my Indy Mids brought me to a breaking point: I had a LOT of lateral kingpin movement with the Indy Mids and they came loose all the time, which was disappointing because the tech involved with those baseplates seemed like it would solve that problem. Unfortunately it didn't for me. The inverted Slappys are a definite upgrade over the Indy Mids. The addition of the Ace Baseplates were just a fun opportunity to play mad scientist, inspired by the recommendation of a great contributor to this board.
There was nothing wrong with the Slappy baseplates whatsoever, even after about a year's worth of honest wear. The Ace baseplates just happened to be a little lighter, a little stronger, and looked a lot cooler. I was also happy to see how everyone else loved the look of a black baseplate with a raw hanger, because that happened to be the color configuration I ended up with.
I am still curious about those new forged Slappy baseplates. If Slappy offers them in black, with a raw hollow hanger, and an inverted kingpin option, I'll have money ready.
You’re welcome!
I’m a month into skating my slappy/ace hybrids and still extremely happy with my choices.
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I actually think about doing the mad scientist as well and put the Slappy hanger on my ace af1 baseplate.
Can I extract / reuse the inverted kingpin from the Slappy ? Or do I need to get another kingpin?
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I actually think about doing the mad scientist as well and put the Slappy hanger on my ace af1 baseplate.
Can I extract / reuse the inverted kingpin from the Slappy ? Or do I need to get another kingpin?
The old kingpin should work fine, but I would recommend using a brand new kingpin nut to JB weld into the baseplate, so that your trucks won't loosen up as easily.
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Someone on the Ace Thread (I don't know how to tag them, but their screenname is Here Comes A Regular) mentioned that a Slappy hanger fits perfectly on an Ace baseplate, and they work really well together. At the time I happened to be converting a pair of forged Ace baseplates to work with an inverted kingpin (JB Weld holding a kingpin nut under the baseplate), so I figured it was worth a try. Once the JB Weld cured, I set those baseplates up with my hollow Slappy hangers, and that shit changed my life. I'm not sure if it works better (there may be a placebo effect going on), but it definitely didn't get worse. The turns and grinds felt great, the grind clearance improved dramatically, and everything felt just as stable as before (didn't suddenly become way too loose). I bought a pair of Slappy Trucks after my frustration with my Indy Mids brought me to a breaking point: I had a LOT of lateral kingpin movement with the Indy Mids and they came loose all the time, which was disappointing because the tech involved with those baseplates seemed like it would solve that problem. Unfortunately it didn't for me. The inverted Slappys are a definite upgrade over the Indy Mids. The addition of the Ace Baseplates were just a fun opportunity to play mad scientist, inspired by the recommendation of a great contributor to this board.
There was nothing wrong with the Slappy baseplates whatsoever, even after about a year's worth of honest wear. The Ace baseplates just happened to be a little lighter, a little stronger, and looked a lot cooler. I was also happy to see how everyone else loved the look of a black baseplate with a raw hanger, because that happened to be the color configuration I ended up with.
I am still curious about those new forged Slappy baseplates. If Slappy offers them in black, with a raw hollow hanger, and an inverted kingpin option, I'll have money ready.
You’re welcome!
I’m a month into skating my slappy/ace hybrids and still extremely happy with my choices.
Besides the lower height, what’s the advantage? Aces grind worse (too soft).
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I actually think about doing the mad scientist as well and put the Slappy hanger on my ace af1 baseplate.
Can I extract / reuse the inverted kingpin from the Slappy ? Or do I need to get another kingpin?
The old kingpin should work fine, but I would recommend using a brand new kingpin nut to JB weld into the baseplate, so that your trucks won't loosen up as easily.
I don’t have Slappy yet. I was thinking about getting hollow inverted Slappy and put it on my ace, ideally reusing the inverted (new) kingpin of the Slappy as it’s hollow + JB weld it
Else, do you know if I can find some good inverted hollow kingpin in Europe ?
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Someone on the Ace Thread (I don't know how to tag them, but their screenname is Here Comes A Regular) mentioned that a Slappy hanger fits perfectly on an Ace baseplate, and they work really well together. At the time I happened to be converting a pair of forged Ace baseplates to work with an inverted kingpin (JB Weld holding a kingpin nut under the baseplate), so I figured it was worth a try. Once the JB Weld cured, I set those baseplates up with my hollow Slappy hangers, and that shit changed my life. I'm not sure if it works better (there may be a placebo effect going on), but it definitely didn't get worse. The turns and grinds felt great, the grind clearance improved dramatically, and everything felt just as stable as before (didn't suddenly become way too loose). I bought a pair of Slappy Trucks after my frustration with my Indy Mids brought me to a breaking point: I had a LOT of lateral kingpin movement with the Indy Mids and they came loose all the time, which was disappointing because the tech involved with those baseplates seemed like it would solve that problem. Unfortunately it didn't for me. The inverted Slappys are a definite upgrade over the Indy Mids. The addition of the Ace Baseplates were just a fun opportunity to play mad scientist, inspired by the recommendation of a great contributor to this board.
There was nothing wrong with the Slappy baseplates whatsoever, even after about a year's worth of honest wear. The Ace baseplates just happened to be a little lighter, a little stronger, and looked a lot cooler. I was also happy to see how everyone else loved the look of a black baseplate with a raw hanger, because that happened to be the color configuration I ended up with.
I am still curious about those new forged Slappy baseplates. If Slappy offers them in black, with a raw hollow hanger, and an inverted kingpin option, I'll have money ready.
You’re welcome!
I’m a month into skating my slappy/ace hybrids and still extremely happy with my choices.
Besides the lower height, what’s the advantage? Aces grind worse (too soft).
I’m using the ace plates with Slappy hanger (not the other way around), exactly BECAUSE the Slappy metal grinds so much better.
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Besides the lower height, what’s the advantage? Aces grind worse (too soft).
There's a (slight) weight reduction with the forged Ace AF-1 Baseplate, and I think they look cooler than the soon-to-be previous generation Slappy Baseplate. I will try the forged Slappy Baseplates when those come out though, especially if there is a color option (black would be so rad).
The Slappy hanger is made out of a stronger aluminum so they'll last longer than the Ace Hangers, and I don't do enough (any) nose or tailslides to worry about wearing out that one part of either Ace baseplate.
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Someone on the Ace Thread (I don't know how to tag them, but their screenname is Here Comes A Regular) mentioned that a Slappy hanger fits perfectly on an Ace baseplate, and they work really well together. At the time I happened to be converting a pair of forged Ace baseplates to work with an inverted kingpin (JB Weld holding a kingpin nut under the baseplate), so I figured it was worth a try. Once the JB Weld cured, I set those baseplates up with my hollow Slappy hangers, and that shit changed my life. I'm not sure if it works better (there may be a placebo effect going on), but it definitely didn't get worse. The turns and grinds felt great, the grind clearance improved dramatically, and everything felt just as stable as before (didn't suddenly become way too loose). I bought a pair of Slappy Trucks after my frustration with my Indy Mids brought me to a breaking point: I had a LOT of lateral kingpin movement with the Indy Mids and they came loose all the time, which was disappointing because the tech involved with those baseplates seemed like it would solve that problem. Unfortunately it didn't for me. The inverted Slappys are a definite upgrade over the Indy Mids. The addition of the Ace Baseplates were just a fun opportunity to play mad scientist, inspired by the recommendation of a great contributor to this board.
There was nothing wrong with the Slappy baseplates whatsoever, even after about a year's worth of honest wear. The Ace baseplates just happened to be a little lighter, a little stronger, and looked a lot cooler. I was also happy to see how everyone else loved the look of a black baseplate with a raw hanger, because that happened to be the color configuration I ended up with.
I am still curious about those new forged Slappy baseplates. If Slappy offers them in black, with a raw hollow hanger, and an inverted kingpin option, I'll have money ready.
You’re welcome!
I’m a month into skating my slappy/ace hybrids and still extremely happy with my choices.
Besides the lower height, what’s the advantage? Aces grind worse (too soft).
I’m using the ace plates with Slappy hanger (not the other way around), exactly BECAUSE the Slappy metal grinds so much better.
Thanks - my bad. Of course. You are using the slappy hanger. Does the longer kingpin bother you?
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Does the longer kingpin bother you?
Mine don't, but I also happen to use a shorter inverted hollow kingpin (from the Krux K4's, they're sometimes called "Pink Labels" because Krux used to sell them individually in a clear bag with a pink label. Hopefully Krux brings those back because a lot of people realized how great those were after Krux stopped making them.). If you skate tight trucks you might run out of thread on the inverted kingpins, and/or the kingpin might start to make contact with the bottom of your deck which could cause more damage if you're jumping down things with your board. A good set of shock pads would help with that.
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Someone on the Ace Thread (I don't know how to tag them, but their screenname is Here Comes A Regular) mentioned that a Slappy hanger fits perfectly on an Ace baseplate, and they work really well together. At the time I happened to be converting a pair of forged Ace baseplates to work with an inverted kingpin (JB Weld holding a kingpin nut under the baseplate), so I figured it was worth a try. Once the JB Weld cured, I set those baseplates up with my hollow Slappy hangers, and that shit changed my life. I'm not sure if it works better (there may be a placebo effect going on), but it definitely didn't get worse. The turns and grinds felt great, the grind clearance improved dramatically, and everything felt just as stable as before (didn't suddenly become way too loose). I bought a pair of Slappy Trucks after my frustration with my Indy Mids brought me to a breaking point: I had a LOT of lateral kingpin movement with the Indy Mids and they came loose all the time, which was disappointing because the tech involved with those baseplates seemed like it would solve that problem. Unfortunately it didn't for me. The inverted Slappys are a definite upgrade over the Indy Mids. The addition of the Ace Baseplates were just a fun opportunity to play mad scientist, inspired by the recommendation of a great contributor to this board.
There was nothing wrong with the Slappy baseplates whatsoever, even after about a year's worth of honest wear. The Ace baseplates just happened to be a little lighter, a little stronger, and looked a lot cooler. I was also happy to see how everyone else loved the look of a black baseplate with a raw hanger, because that happened to be the color configuration I ended up with.
I am still curious about those new forged Slappy baseplates. If Slappy offers them in black, with a raw hollow hanger, and an inverted kingpin option, I'll have money ready.
You’re welcome!
I’m a month into skating my slappy/ace hybrids and still extremely happy with my choices.
Besides the lower height, what’s the advantage? Aces grind worse (too soft).
I’m using the ace plates with Slappy hanger (not the other way around), exactly BECAUSE the Slappy metal grinds so much better.
Nah. AF-1’s have plenty of grind clearance as is.
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Someone on the Ace Thread (I don't know how to tag them, but their screenname is Here Comes A Regular) mentioned that a Slappy hanger fits perfectly on an Ace baseplate, and they work really well together. At the time I happened to be converting a pair of forged Ace baseplates to work with an inverted kingpin (JB Weld holding a kingpin nut under the baseplate), so I figured it was worth a try. Once the JB Weld cured, I set those baseplates up with my hollow Slappy hangers, and that shit changed my life.
I'm not sure if it works better (there may be a placebo effect going on), but it definitely didn't get worse. The turns and grinds felt great, the grind clearance (which was already great) improved dramatically, and everything felt just as stable as before. Also they maintain at the level of tightness I like, and I'm only having to tighten them once every few sessions, which is incredible. I bought a pair of Slappy Trucks after my frustration with my Indy Mids brought me to a breaking point: I had a LOT of lateral kingpin movement with the Indy Mids AND they came loose all the time, which was disappointing because the tech involved with those baseplates seemed like it would solve all of the problems associated with inverted kingpin trucks. Unfortunately they didn't work for me, and from reading around over here, it sounds like they didn't work for a lot of people (including the pros who had their names on those particular type of trucks). The inverted Slappys are a definite upgrade over the Indy Mids, and the addition of the Ace Baseplates were just a fun opportunity to play mad scientist, inspired by the recommendation of a great contributor to this board.
There was nothing wrong with the Slappy baseplates whatsoever, even after about a year's worth of honest wear. Those are now set up on my cruiser, where they are enjoying semi-retirement life. The Ace baseplates just happened to be a little lighter, a little stronger, and looked a lot cooler. I was also happy to see how everyone else loved the look of a black baseplate with a raw hanger, because that happened to be the color configuration I ended up with.
I am still curious about those new forged Slappy baseplates. If Slappy offers them in black, with a raw hollow hanger, and an inverted kingpin option, I'll have money ready.
There's one thing I don't like about the baseplate. The logo is sharp enough to cut you. I like to fondle my gear
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Someone on the Ace Thread (I don't know how to tag them, but their screenname is Here Comes A Regular) mentioned that a Slappy hanger fits perfectly on an Ace baseplate, and they work really well together. At the time I happened to be converting a pair of forged Ace baseplates to work with an inverted kingpin (JB Weld holding a kingpin nut under the baseplate), so I figured it was worth a try. Once the JB Weld cured, I set those baseplates up with my hollow Slappy hangers, and that shit changed my life.
I'm not sure if it works better (there may be a placebo effect going on), but it definitely didn't get worse. The turns and grinds felt great, the grind clearance (which was already great) improved dramatically, and everything felt just as stable as before. Also they maintain at the level of tightness I like, and I'm only having to tighten them once every few sessions, which is incredible. I bought a pair of Slappy Trucks after my frustration with my Indy Mids brought me to a breaking point: I had a LOT of lateral kingpin movement with the Indy Mids AND they came loose all the time, which was disappointing because the tech involved with those baseplates seemed like it would solve all of the problems associated with inverted kingpin trucks. Unfortunately they didn't work for me, and from reading around over here, it sounds like they didn't work for a lot of people (including the pros who had their names on those particular type of trucks). The inverted Slappys are a definite upgrade over the Indy Mids, and the addition of the Ace Baseplates were just a fun opportunity to play mad scientist, inspired by the recommendation of a great contributor to this board.
There was nothing wrong with the Slappy baseplates whatsoever, even after about a year's worth of honest wear. Those are now set up on my cruiser, where they are enjoying semi-retirement life. The Ace baseplates just happened to be a little lighter, a little stronger, and looked a lot cooler. I was also happy to see how everyone else loved the look of a black baseplate with a raw hanger, because that happened to be the color configuration I ended up with.
I am still curious about those new forged Slappy baseplates. If Slappy offers them in black, with a raw hollow hanger, and an inverted kingpin option, I'll have money ready.
There's one thing I don't like about the baseplate. The logo is sharp enough to cut you. I like to fondle my gear
For real. I like looking at my trucks inspecting the grooves forming. Had to pass some sandpaper over the logo to take down the edges.
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Someone on the Ace Thread (I don't know how to tag them, but their screenname is Here Comes A Regular) mentioned that a Slappy hanger fits perfectly on an Ace baseplate, and they work really well together. At the time I happened to be converting a pair of forged Ace baseplates to work with an inverted kingpin (JB Weld holding a kingpin nut under the baseplate), so I figured it was worth a try. Once the JB Weld cured, I set those baseplates up with my hollow Slappy hangers, and that shit changed my life.
I'm not sure if it works better (there may be a placebo effect going on), but it definitely didn't get worse. The turns and grinds felt great, the grind clearance (which was already great) improved dramatically, and everything felt just as stable as before. Also they maintain at the level of tightness I like, and I'm only having to tighten them once every few sessions, which is incredible. I bought a pair of Slappy Trucks after my frustration with my Indy Mids brought me to a breaking point: I had a LOT of lateral kingpin movement with the Indy Mids AND they came loose all the time, which was disappointing because the tech involved with those baseplates seemed like it would solve all of the problems associated with inverted kingpin trucks. Unfortunately they didn't work for me, and from reading around over here, it sounds like they didn't work for a lot of people (including the pros who had their names on those particular type of trucks). The inverted Slappys are a definite upgrade over the Indy Mids, and the addition of the Ace Baseplates were just a fun opportunity to play mad scientist, inspired by the recommendation of a great contributor to this board.
There was nothing wrong with the Slappy baseplates whatsoever, even after about a year's worth of honest wear. Those are now set up on my cruiser, where they are enjoying semi-retirement life. The Ace baseplates just happened to be a little lighter, a little stronger, and looked a lot cooler. I was also happy to see how everyone else loved the look of a black baseplate with a raw hanger, because that happened to be the color configuration I ended up with.
I am still curious about those new forged Slappy baseplates. If Slappy offers them in black, with a raw hollow hanger, and an inverted kingpin option, I'll have money ready.
There's one thing I don't like about the baseplate. The logo is sharp enough to cut you. I like to fondle my gear
For real. I like looking at my trucks inspecting the grooves forming. Had to pass some sandpaper over the logo to take down the edges.
That's a good idea.
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Been skating these for a couple weeks. Replaced top washer with a slightly bigger one to prevent them from bubbling over (which they did prior). Bushings started cracking after first session and after about a week they have started shredding big time and I have not cranked the nut down at all, completely flush. Swapped with some doh dohs cause that’s all my local had. Hoping they fix the bushings in the future. Overall, enjoying the trucks.
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Since the top bushings were immediately shredded, I Put some Indy 90a standard cylinder bushings in these bad boys after the first session. Now they are my favorite truck by far! As if Indy and Ace had a beautiful bastard son.
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Since the top bushings were immediately shredded, I Put some Indy 90a standard cylinder bushings in these bad boys after the first session. Now they are my favorite truck by far! As if Indy and Ace had a beautiful bastard son.
I use Indy bushings as well.
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Since the top bushings were immediately shredded, I Put some Indy 90a standard cylinder bushings in these bad boys after the first session. Now they are my favorite truck by far! As if Indy and Ace had a beautiful bastard son.
I use Indy bushings as well.
Just put some Indy bushings in mine as well. Do they change the geometry at all or are they roughly the same size as the stock slappy bushings?
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Since the top bushings were immediately shredded, I Put some Indy 90a standard cylinder bushings in these bad boys after the first session. Now they are my favorite truck by far! As if Indy and Ace had a beautiful bastard son.
I use Indy bushings as well.
Just put some Indy bushings in mine as well. Do they change the geometry at all or are they roughly the same size as the stock slappy bushings?
Bottom bushings have the same height, so geometry is the same. Top bushing is higher so maybe less kingpin clearance. Sinclair confirmed it via IG message.
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Getting closer! Probably two weeks or so...
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Getting closer! Probably two weeks or so...
It is wild how a piece of metal can generate so many enthusiastic feelings. That improved hex bed really has my eye too. Hope the black ones make it to market along with the gold, red, and blue.
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Black/Raw plates aren't coming in this drop...weird. Guess adding some color is more important than sales? Really wish they'd sell the forged plates, at least in silver (and their bushings) separately.
Improved Hex bed is a welcome addition, tho I never had (or read about) anyone getting any issues with the 'wedged' in nut coming loose/falling out?
Still wish they were lower...but 'best grind clearance' is there thing (and unmatched tbh)...just have to settle for lighter/stronger.
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Looking at doing a dedicated slappy setup and thinking about these trucks, can anyone give the low down on how much they shift wheelbase and ride feel vs Indy / Ace?
Coming from Ventures and wanted to stay with the Mighty-V but 6.1s are impossible to find.
Edit - did some searching, +3.1" so similar to a Indy forged, still keen to hear about the ride feel
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Looking at doing a dedicated slappy setup and thinking about these trucks, can anyone give the low down on how much they shift wheelbase and ride feel vs Indy / Ace?
Coming from Ventures and wanted to stay with the Mighty-V but 6.1s are impossible to find.
Edit - did some searching, +3.1" so similar to a Indy forged, still keen to hear about the ride feel
They ride like Theeves.
Not as floppy/or squirrly as ACE
Not as slow as Indy
They are much quicker to get back to center (and stay there) than ACE/Indy.
The top washer, depending on how loose you ride, does bind (less wheelbite they say!) - going to a flat top/bones washer fixes this (but does lead to wheelbite if you ride loose).
The bushings are soft, if you ride tight better to swap them out. Indy are the same height for bottoms...the slappy top is essentially a LOW (hence the additional grind clearance).
They grind better than both. No joke. Fight me.
Looking forward to grabbing some 8.5" forged.
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Thanks @Xen - going through some gear madness and a funk session wise, thought a change up of gear would be fun and finally learn some slappys. Got some Indy 149 TI off a pal a few weeks ago, will give them a shot this weekend.
I ordered a pair of the 8.5 / 8.75 hollows which are pretty tall coming from Venture forged.
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Thanks @Xen - going through some gear madness and a funk session wise, thought a change up of gear would be fun and finally learn some slappys. Got some Indy 149 TI off a pal a few weeks ago, will give them a shot this weekend.
I ordered a pair of the 8.5 / 8.75 hollows which are pretty tall coming from Venture forged.
The height, if you are used to indy is super easy to adjust to; I'm usually riding 52mm trucks and even tho it's 1.4mm difference you can feel it; even coming off forged ventures you can feel but that's the geo as the slappy geo is def in the ace indy camp so at that height it can feel tippy, especially on narrow trucks (for me).
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Thanks @Xen - going through some gear madness and a funk session wise, thought a change up of gear would be fun and finally learn some slappys. Got some Indy 149 TI off a pal a few weeks ago, will give them a shot this weekend.
I ordered a pair of the 8.5 / 8.75 hollows which are pretty tall coming from Venture forged.
The height, if you are used to indy is super easy to adjust to; I'm usually riding 52mm trucks and even tho it's 1.4mm difference you can feel it; even coming off forged ventures you can feel but that's the geo as the slappy geo is def in the ace indy camp so at that height it can feel tippy, especially on narrow trucks (for me).
Another good excuse to swap from Venture 5.8 to Indy 149 TI on my current setup - acclimate to the Slappy trucks!
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Ment to say even coming off CAST ventures you can fee the height change (but based on geo since at 53.5 they are much closer to indy forged/slappy).
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This week!
https://www.instagram.com/p/C5OFXh2rRJT/?hl=en
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Just weight reduction but height remains the the same? Sounds like a wasted opportunity to create a more versatile truck, but would add more SKUs to manage for a small company.
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I agree, was hoping for them to be lower but doing so would wipe some of their grind clearance …
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Tried out a set of the hollows Slappy courtesy of @Uncle Flea man these are sweet as fuck. Takes the best part of venture/thunder geometry and the profile of Indy's, highly recommend these for short wheelbase board's.
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Slappy lights are excellent.
All the good things about the originals, but actually feel noticeably lighter and idk if it’s placebo effect or legit, but they feel like they turn better too.
(https://i.ibb.co/KW4Qh5B/IMG-9433.jpg)
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Slappy lights are excellent.
All the good things about the originals, but actually feel noticeably lighter and idk if it’s placebo effect or legit, but they feel like they turn better too.
(https://i.ibb.co/KW4Qh5B/IMG-9433.jpg)
Sci-fi deck and slappy trucks, you are truly living in the future.
I considered trying the lights out, but I'm scared to introduce another truck into my constant madness flip flopping.
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I had set and they were definitely really nice, but for some reason didn't really wow me enough to stick with them. They pinch better than Indy or Ace and the grind is nice, pop feel I got used to more or less but like it was mentioned I've come to find that I don't love the tippy feeling of a tall 8.25 truck. I dunno why I didn't get 8.5s.
I will say that the name really turns a lot of people off of the brand. It's dumb, but almost any other random word would have been better. Most truck brands are random words and associating them with a form of skating that lots of people not over age 35 find less interesting or possibly corny isn't doing much for them.
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I had set and they were definitely really nice, but for some reason didn't really wow me enough to stick with them. They pinch better than Indy or Ace and the grind is nice, pop feel I got used to more or less but like it was mentioned I've come to find that I don't love the tippy feeling of a tall 8.25 truck. I dunno why I didn't get 8.5s.
I will say that the name really turns a lot of people off of the brand. It's dumb, but almost any other random word would have been better. Most truck brands are random words and associating them with a form of skating that lots of people not over age 35 find less interesting or possibly corny isn't doing much for them.
I agree, is a terrible name alongside Umaverse
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I had set and they were definitely really nice, but for some reason didn't really wow me enough to stick with them. They pinch better than Indy or Ace and the grind is nice, pop feel I got used to more or less but like it was mentioned I've come to find that I don't love the tippy feeling of a tall 8.25 truck. I dunno why I didn't get 8.5s.
I will say that the name really turns a lot of people off of the brand. It's dumb, but almost any other random word would have been better. Most truck brands are random words and associating them with a form of skating that lots of people not over age 35 find less interesting or possibly corny isn't doing much for them.
Should've just named them Sinclair's
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I had set and they were definitely really nice, but for some reason didn't really wow me enough to stick with them. They pinch better than Indy or Ace and the grind is nice, pop feel I got used to more or less but like it was mentioned I've come to find that I don't love the tippy feeling of a tall 8.25 truck. I dunno why I didn't get 8.5s.
I will say that the name really turns a lot of people off of the brand. It's dumb, but almost any other random word would have been better. Most truck brands are random words and associating them with a form of skating that lots of people not over age 35 find less interesting or possibly corny isn't doing much for them.
Should've just named them Sinclair's
I would be down for a Sinclair's spectrum aesthetic trucks
(https://i.ibb.co/fXBSzJc/Captura-de-pantalla-2024-04-18-a-las-17-20-48.png) (https://ibb.co/6yVZ7Qd)
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Slappy lights are excellent.
All the good things about the originals, but actually feel noticeably lighter and idk if it’s placebo effect or legit, but they feel like they turn better too.
(https://i.ibb.co/KW4Qh5B/IMG-9433.jpg)
Sci-fi deck and slappy trucks, you are truly living in the future.
I considered trying the lights out, but I'm scared to introduce another truck into my constant madness flip flopping.
Lol in my defense….eh I got nothin.
What are you flip flopping between? These are closest to ace af-1s in feel but slightly less squirrelly and better grind.
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Slappy lights are excellent.
All the good things about the originals, but actually feel noticeably lighter and idk if it’s placebo effect or legit, but they feel like they turn better too.
(https://i.ibb.co/KW4Qh5B/IMG-9433.jpg)
Sci-fi deck and slappy trucks, you are truly living in the future.
I considered trying the lights out, but I'm scared to introduce another truck into my constant madness flip flopping.
Lol in my defense….eh I got nothin.
What are you flip flopping between? These are closest to ace af-1s in feel but slightly less squirrelly and better grind.
Indys and thunders.
Turn vs snap.
Catch me in those threads and the madness thread lol.
Not trying to detail the slappy thread though, this is the last thing I'll say about that.
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Picked up a set of the 8.75 hollows and have probably skated 7 or 8 hours on them over the weekend pretty much all mini ramp. The TL:DR would be that I like them and will continue to skate them.
For those more into details here we go.
Wheel bite/bushing/washer, I’m 210 and stock bushings did not wheel bite while putting full weight on heel side or toe side. I did have the same washer digging into the bushing issue others have mentioned, I swapped out to a mini logo top washer, they are a bit flatter but still slightly cupped. These did not dig in but there was a bit of the bushing that would slip out so I had to go to a harder bushing. Mini logo bushings are a very close match to the stock ones but I ended up taking my Indy bushings and sticking them in. I was on 144 standard Indy with the yellow 96 bushings with the nut just flush on the kingpin, I had to go to 1 thread showing on the slappy to have it feel about the same. Probably from the jump from 8.25 to 8.75 maybe. Wheels for messing with the bushings were 53mm F4 classics and 56mm nano cubics on 8.5 crail twin.
Grind, it felt like the slappy were going fine on the coping pretty early in the day, I swear it took a few days on the Indy to feel the same, could have been skill issue as I had just gotten back to skating with the Indy though. Either way these are so far comparable to the Indys, I can’t say better yet but definitely not worse on mini. I did grind a few of the ledges, they are that American ramp company style that’s just two flat pieces that meet, definitely felt better on those.
Pop, it is possible that the jump from the 8.25 to 8.75 has more to do than switching trucks but just an Ollie felt slightly better with the Slappy, also possible a just spent 60$ placebo effect.
Turn, once I had the Indy bushings on and correct tightness I honestly couldn’t tell a huge difference in the actual turn other than perhaps smoother.
Look, I was a bit worried changing to a different truck would look weird to me when looking at my board, but these look like they belong on my board. This may be ridiculous but I know there are others that have these thoughts too.
Pivot cup was lubed so no squeaky squeaky
Also the logo being sharp enough to cut you is real.
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^^ are they the new forged hollows? Sinclair mentioned updating the washers eventually, curious if that made it into this revision or not.
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I don’t think they are newer stock, sounded like these had been sitting for quite some time from the shop guy.
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Got my slappy lights. They are, indeed, lighter!
Looks like the baseplate also has the shaft nut like the rest.
(https://i.ibb.co/4V7Vny1/shaft.jpg) (https://ibb.co/4V7Vny1)
I'm having issues with the stock setup (which I did not have with the IKP hollow 8.75s I've got) as I cannot seem to tighten them down enough to get them as tight as I would want (so much so that I thought I was digging the pin into the deck but wasn't); I think either the top bushing is too low or there is not enough thread on the pin itself to actually get tight. It feels I'm bottoming out the pin into the nut as I physically cannot tighten them anymore.
(https://i.ibb.co/10Mh6zL/IMG-6226.jpg) (https://ibb.co/10Mh6zL)
I swapped out for some 96a indys and was able to A) get them tighter and B) not get to the point where they were feeling like they were bottoming out..but now I'm concerned how much pin I have engaged since I can't see the threads.
Two other issues:
I had already started to shred the top bushings after a ONE 1HR session....lame AF. You can see the dig/bulge on the left and the straggle piece on the right:
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One of the trucks is waaaaaaaay harder to tighten down than the other it's not stripped but it sort of feels like that feeling; maybe one of the pins or plates isn't machined up to par.
But, as it is, with the indy bushings in, they turn/feel great, grind amazing and most excellent pop feel....gonna take them off just for OCDs sake to make sure they're at least nut flush.
Edit: working through the issues with them, they're being super helpful - excellent CS. I took the trucks off and I'm nut flush now (I was a bit more than nut flush with the stocks, like 3 threads or so) so I'm guessing it's just that I want them tighter than the stock bushings allow given how soft they are and how low that top bushing is.
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I have some 8.75 inverted kp hollow slappy's and i cannot tighten them from stock, only loosen. It's bottomed out from the start. It's odd. Is it normal for these trucks, or do I have a defective pair? I have a pair of the standard kp slappy trucks, same size and really liked them so figured the IKP would be nice. Looks like I'll have to swap the top bushing as it presently is a little loose. Apologies if this has been discussed, I went back a few pages but didnt see.
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Idk why people keep trying IKP. Never heard of anything good, only issues.
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I have some 8.75 inverted kp hollow slappy's and i cannot tighten them from stock, only loosen. It's bottomed out from the start. It's odd. Is it normal for these trucks, or do I have a defective pair? I have a pair of the standard kp slappy trucks, same size and really liked them so figured the IKP would be nice. Looks like I'll have to swap the top bushing as it presently is a little loose. Apologies if this has been discussed, I went back a few pages but didnt see.
@finecojeffe Both trucks?
I had a similar issue in that I couldn't tighten them past a certain point (see above post); there could be two issues:
1) Bushings: you are trying to tighten them more than they allow. The bottoms are venture/indy height but the top is very low and I'm guessing there isn't enough thread to crush them down more.
2) Is it both trucks? Are these new? Could be a defect on the pin or in the plate (something not milled correctly).
My solution was to put in harder bushings that were also had a taller top bushing (indy blue 92s) solved the issue no problem. Note that this happened on the NEW forged plated ones, not on the old cast IKP...which is weird since A) the bushings are the same and B) the plate height is the same...I was not bothered to check the kingpins for comparisons as I traded the IKP trucks that worked stock.
Reach out to them on Insta, they were very responsive and offered up a few solutions.
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Both trucks?
2) Is it both trucks? Are these new? Could be a defect on the pin or in the plate (something not milled correctly).
My solution was to put in harder bushings that were also had a taller top bushing (indy blue 92s) solved the issue no problem. Note that this happened on the NEW forged plated ones, not on the old cast IKP...which is weird since A) the bushings are the same and B) the plate height is the same...I was not bothered to check the kingpins for comparisons as I traded the IKP trucks that worked stock.
Reach out to them on Insta, they were very responsive and offered up a few solutions.
I only checked one truck because I got them yesterday and set them up late last night, so I don't know if it's both at the moment. They are brand new. I'll check when I get home from work today, and also see if a different top bushing will work. One thing I did notice is they had zero give, meaning the kingpin seemed to run out of threads maybe, so it seemed like that could be the cause.
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2) Is it both trucks? Are these new? Could be a defect on the pin or in the plate (something not milled correctly).
My solution was to put in harder bushings that were also had a taller top bushing (indy blue 92s) solved the issue no problem. Note that this happened on the NEW forged plated ones, not on the old cast IKP...which is weird since A) the bushings are the same and B) the plate height is the same...I was not bothered to check the kingpins for comparisons as I traded the IKP trucks that worked stock.
Reach out to them on Insta, they were very responsive and offered up a few solutions.
I only checked one truck because I got them yesterday and set them up late last night, so I don't know if it's both at the moment. They are brand new. I'll check when I get home from work today, and also see if a different top bushing will work. One thing I did notice is they had zero give, meaning the kingpin seemed to run out of threads maybe, so it seemed like that could be the cause.
These are the regular cast, not forged, versions?
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These are the regular cast, not forged, versions?
yeah, the cast hollow
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went home yesterday and checked the other truck and it was also bottomed out. I honestly don't know it my set came with either extra short top bushings, a kingpin that didn't have enough thread cut in, or a combination of the two...or if it's exactly as designed. I've only had the standard slappy trucks before this so I can't compare it to anything, nor have I even come across the IKP versions in person before. Anyway I sent a message to their insta and they replied quickly. It was suggested by them to try a harder bushing rather than a taller one, so I went with the boned hard and it seemed to work out fine enough. I think it's roughly close in height to the stock bushing. However I did try the ace top bushing, which is a lot taller, and I think it feels better, but I'll stick with slappy's suggestion for the time being though to see if I can get used to it quickly. I'm sure it will be fine.
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went home yesterday and checked the other truck and it was also bottomed out. I honestly don't know it my set came with either extra short top bushings, a kingpin that didn't have enough thread cut in, or a combination of the two...or if it's exactly as designed. I've only had the standard slappy trucks before this so I can't compare it to anything, nor have I even come across the IKP versions in person before. Anyway I sent a message to their insta and they replied quickly. It was suggested by them to try a harder bushing rather than a taller one, so I went with the boned hard and it seemed to work out fine enough. I think it's roughly close in height to the stock bushing. However I did try the ace top bushing, which is a lot taller, and I think it feels better, but I'll stick with slappy's suggestion for the time being though to see if I can get used to it quickly. I'm sure it will be fine.
Yeah, using a tall bushing cuts down grind clearance but fixes the issue. They def changed something, feels like a pin with fewer threads if this is showing up in standard IKP and the new forged.
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Slappy lows are coming .. ha.. Mike York and the 9club mentioned it on a live stream
So I messaged slappy ig to make sure I wasn't hearing things
And yep reply was . They coming!
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Slappy lows are coming .. ha.. Mike York and the 9club mentioned it on a live stream
So I messaged slappy ig to make sure I wasn't hearing things
And yep reply was . They coming!
:o
I'm not dipping again. Wonder what they consider 'low' based of the current height trucks. 50/51mm?
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Well there we go, how high does that make em 50mm ??
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I'd be really surprised of they are quicker turning than ACE Lows.
Aaaaaaaand, they put them on black plates (wonder if they're forged or not).
Getting those ACE vibes...we all wanted hollow aces and they started with hollow pin lows.
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I'd be really surprised of they are quicker turning than ACE Lows.
Aaaaaaaand, they put them on black plates (wonder if they're forged or not).
Getting those ACE vibes...we all wanted hollow aces and they started with hollow pin lows.
I'm skating ace lows AF1's and love them but
always looking for indy stage 10 lows 139's on ebay
I'm hoping these are good and I can stop thinking indy lows
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ST-1 hangers are compatible and same geometry huh? Interesting. did they just make the “base” of the baseplates thinner and leave everything else the same?
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These lows might just be my dream trucks damn. Ace low wheelbase is always fucking with my pop and these are a bit closer in the thunder direction right?
I'll probably try those one day, but I have many years worth of thunders to skate first
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ST-1 hangers are compatible and same geometry huh? Interesting. did they just make the “base” of the baseplates thinner and leave everything else the same?
Yep, all the change is in the plate (confirmed) but that's why it say the ST1 hangers are compatible, so they went the ACE route (good idea).
Fall drop, hollow, not forged (coming later).
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Not sure how they shave 4mm off the baseplate and keep the geometry the same? Pivot hole must be pretty shallow now.
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Not sure how they shave 4mm off the baseplate and keep the geometry the same? Pivot hole must be pretty shallow now.
Looking at the pic I'd say you're right. Doesn't look like they thinned out the baseplate (like a Thunder Team vs Forged) so they had to lessen the pivot and whatever the area is called that houses the kingpin. Clearly what ACE did. More options are good!
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Doesn't a Slappy low kind of defeat the purpose of the no wheelbite thing? I can't see a sub 50mm truck not getting wheelbite no matter what the geometry is like.
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Doesn't a Slappy low kind of defeat the purpose of the no wheelbite thing? I can't see a sub 50mm truck not getting wheelbite no matter what the geometry is like.
Probably why it's not listed on that ad :P just geo, and grind clearance (which for a low is still impressive)...but I can tell just by looking at that photo that top washer is gonna bind worse than it does on the current models. Their top bushing is super low already so if they shortened both bottom AND top even more...watch out (pretty sure they'd only need to lower the bottom).
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Doesn't a Slappy low kind of defeat the purpose of the no wheelbite thing? I can't see a sub 50mm truck not getting wheelbite no matter what the geometry is like.
Probably why it's not listed on that ad :P just geo, and grind clearance (which for a low is still impressive)...but I can tell just by looking at that photo that top washer is gonna bind worse than it does on the current models. Their top bushing is super low already so if they shortened both bottom AND top even more...watch out (pretty sure they'd only need to lower the bottom).
Okay... So help me out here.
If they lower the height of the bottom (barrel) bushing, would that not change the geometry of how the hanger rests on the plate/in its pivot, regardless of how many mm the remove from the baseplate? if the hangers maintain the same kingpin & pivot angles, and the geo is the same, wouldn't the only way to lower the height of the kingpin be to reduce its length (shorter pin), lower its seat in the base plate (reducing baseplate height), lower the top bushing height, or most likley a combo of two, or more of these approaches?
Help me to understand. I'm kinda dense.
Thank you in advance.
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Doesn't a Slappy low kind of defeat the purpose of the no wheelbite thing? I can't see a sub 50mm truck not getting wheelbite no matter what the geometry is like.
Probably why it's not listed on that ad :P just geo, and grind clearance (which for a low is still impressive)...but I can tell just by looking at that photo that top washer is gonna bind worse than it does on the current models. Their top bushing is super low already so if they shortened both bottom AND top even more...watch out (pretty sure they'd only need to lower the bottom).
If they lower the height of the bottom (barrel) bushing, would that not change the geometry of how the hanger rests on the plate/in its pivot, regardless of how many mm the remove from the baseplate? if the hangers maintain the same kingpin & pivot angles, and the geo is the same, wouldn't the only way to lower the height of the kingpin be to reduce its length (shorter pin), lower its seat in the base plate (reducing baseplate height), lower the top bushing height, or most likely a combo of two, or more of these approaches?
Help me to understand. I'm kinda dense.
Thank you in advance.
It would...or...it's all relative?
And I have no idea if they did lower the bottom bushing. If they lowered the pivot and the kingpin housing and still use the same bottom, they maybe it is still the same?
I'm only thinking they dropped the bottom bushing because that's what ACE did (ACE low bushings consist of lower top and bottoms, thereby changing their geo since they both use the same method: all changes to height were done in via the baseplate...making a LOW but is still compatible with REGULAR hangers....so if the pivots are the same length they 'dug out' the pivot area so it sits lower thereby needing to drop either the kingpin housing or just use a lower bottom bushing to lower the yoke accordingly.
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Doesn't a Slappy low kind of defeat the purpose of the no wheelbite thing? I can't see a sub 50mm truck not getting wheelbite no matter what the geometry is like.
Probably why it's not listed on that ad :P just geo, and grind clearance (which for a low is still impressive)...but I can tell just by looking at that photo that top washer is gonna bind worse than it does on the current models. Their top bushing is super low already so if they shortened both bottom AND top even more...watch out (pretty sure they'd only need to lower the bottom).
If they lower the height of the bottom (barrel) bushing, would that not change the geometry of how the hanger rests on the plate/in its pivot, regardless of how many mm the remove from the baseplate? if the hangers maintain the same kingpin & pivot angles, and the geo is the same, wouldn't the only way to lower the height of the kingpin be to reduce its length (shorter pin), lower its seat in the base plate (reducing baseplate height), lower the top bushing height, or most likley a combo of two, or more of these approaches?
Help me to understand. I'm kinda dense.
Thank you in advance.
Was it on Ace or a different truck, they had just shortened the bushing and hanger pivot cup point was lower but the geometry still was the same, rather than how others cut down bushings or put a top bushing in the bottom, then changing the angle of the hanger and geometry.
Either way, I think I would have to see it, but I recall some other trucks had something like that going on, but I can't think of when I saw them or skated them.
* I had replied but not seen the last post from @Xen so that is pretty much all covered there anyway I think.
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I'm following up on my inverted kingpin experience previously posted about in here. I went with bones top bushing instead of the taller ace and it's working out great. Oddly enough, though I may be a glutton for punishment, I would up ordering a 9" set for a cruiser board of mine. That truck also had the exact issue, so it's apparently a design rather than a one off. I went right ahead and used bones top bushing on that one too. Thing is, aside from that adjustability issue, I really love these trucks a lot. If really loose trucks were my thing then I don't think Id have any issue with the stock setup.
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My local has some aftermarket bushings in 90a for slappy trucks. Does anyone know what the OG durometer for these trucks is? Are 90a softer than stock bushings?
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My local has some aftermarket bushings in 90a for slappy trucks. Does anyone know what the OG durometer for these trucks is? Are 90a softer than stock bushings?
I thought their stock bushings were 90 duro.
They did have a couple of options in different duros in aftermarket bushings though, from what I saw or read.
* Trying to find any more info but I can't see anything about them anywhere right now, including any other duro options for their aftermarket bushings as well.
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My local has some aftermarket bushings in 90a for slappy trucks. Does anyone know what the OG durometer for these trucks is? Are 90a softer than stock bushings?
I thought their stock bushings were 90 duro.
They did have a couple of options in different duros in aftermarket bushings though, from what I saw or read.
* Trying to find any more info but I can't see anything about them anywhere right now, including any other duro options for their aftermarket bushings as well.
Thanks!
I didn’t find any info neither. Wasn’t sure about the stock duro
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The stocks are supposedly 90a but feel harder to me.
There was a pic on insta when they first announced, black or brownish hard(er) bushings....they were to be sold individually or together with the softs so you could mix duros. They never launched.
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The stocks are supposedly 90a but feel harder to me.
There was a pic on insta when they first announced, black or brownish hard(er) bushings....they were to be sold individually or together with the softs so you could mix duros. They never launched.
Thanks. So the aftermarket ones are the same duro as the stock ones.
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These slappies are weird but not in bad way. They turn pretty quick when you lean and have a nice turning radius, but then stop like theres a bit of resistance before I hit wheelbite and I had to actually try to get one. Felt really stable even at high speeds and I loosened my trucks from the stock tightness. Im not really used to these just yet. They feel weirdly turny and stable at the same time. Didnt get to grind these yet.
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I'm pretty sure the Slappy stock bushings will be too soft for me. Do Indy replacement bushings fit in them right?
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I'm pretty sure the Slappy stock bushings will be too soft for me. Do Indy replacement bushings fit in them right?
yea, i'm running indy bushings in mine, mini logo are also pretty close as well.
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I'm pretty sure the Slappy stock bushings will be too soft for me. Do Indy replacement bushings fit in them right?
Indy/venture bottoms are the same size as slappy bottoms.
Slappy tops are low tops, even lower than Ace low tops (and let’s be real Ace tops are huge).
Any standard top bushing will fit you’re just going to lose a few mm of grind clearance compared to stock.
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Hell yeah! I messaged Slappy a few months ago asking if there were any plans for a low truck and they just responded "We're working on something now", but then when they released the forged plate with the same height update I was a little disappointed because I thought that was all they had in mind - really cool to see that they did have something planned and delivered.
I normally skate Ventures just because I'm always on 14" wheelbase boards and the extended axles on the Ventures compliments that well, but I tried a set of the original Slappy's and liked a lot of things about them - If I ever get a 14.25" board I think I'll bust them out again or try the new Low's once they're out.
I like this company and how they've been engaging with the community, and they're starting to get a really solid lineup of products. They repost a lot of fan content on their IG when people tag them and answer our spastic truck-madness emails. I want to see Slappy succeed.
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I normally skate Ventures just because I'm always on 14" wheelbase boards and the extended axles on the Ventures compliments that well, but I tried a set of the original Slappy's and liked a lot of things about them - If I ever get a 14.25" board I think I'll bust them out again or try the new Low's once they're out.
I like this company and how they've been engaging with the community, and they're starting to get a really solid lineup of products. They repost a lot of fan content on their IG when people tag them and answer our spastic truck-madness emails. I want to see Slappy succeed.
They must be doing something right as they keep expanding the line-up.
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I normally skate Ventures just because I'm always on 14" wheelbase boards and the extended axles on the Ventures compliments that well, but I tried a set of the original Slappy's and liked a lot of things about them - If I ever get a 14.25" board I think I'll bust them out again or try the new Low's once they're out.
I like this company and how they've been engaging with the community, and they're starting to get a really solid lineup of products. They repost a lot of fan content on their IG when people tag them and answer our spastic truck-madness emails. I want to see Slappy succeed.
They must be doing something right as they keep expanding the line-up.
Yeah my only concern is I'm hoping they don't stretch themselves too thin with all their offerings.
It may be smart, I'd think, to just standardize the forged plate and not have both cast and forged offerings assuming they're the same height anyway - but looks like the lows are going to launch with cast plates first(?)
As long as it all keeps selling good and they have their production numbers dialed in, which seems to be the case.
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I normally skate Ventures just because I'm always on 14" wheelbase boards and the extended axles on the Ventures compliments that well, but I tried a set of the original Slappy's and liked a lot of things about them - If I ever get a 14.25" board I think I'll bust them out again or try the new Low's once they're out.
I like this company and how they've been engaging with the community, and they're starting to get a really solid lineup of products. They repost a lot of fan content on their IG when people tag them and answer our spastic truck-madness emails. I want to see Slappy succeed.
They must be doing something right as they keep expanding the line-up.
It may be smart, I'd think, to just standardize the forged plate and not have both cast and forged offerings assuming they're the same height anyway - but looks like the lows are going to launch with cast plates first(?)
As long as it all keeps selling good and they have their production numbers dialed in, which seems to be the case.
Yes, lows are shipping as cast plates first.
Lots of folks prefer the feel of cast over forged; having skated both slappy variants, the difference in feel is much less noticeable compared to say, a Thunder.
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I normally skate Ventures just because I'm always on 14" wheelbase boards and the extended axles on the Ventures compliments that well, but I tried a set of the original Slappy's and liked a lot of things about them - If I ever get a 14.25" board I think I'll bust them out again or try the new Low's once they're out.
I like this company and how they've been engaging with the community, and they're starting to get a really solid lineup of products. They repost a lot of fan content on their IG when people tag them and answer our spastic truck-madness emails. I want to see Slappy succeed.
They must be doing something right as they keep expanding the line-up.
It may be smart, I'd think, to just standardize the forged plate and not have both cast and forged offerings assuming they're the same height anyway - but looks like the lows are going to launch with cast plates first(?)
As long as it all keeps selling good and they have their production numbers dialed in, which seems to be the case.
Yes, lows are shipping as cast plates first.
Lots of folks prefer the feel of cast over forged; having skated both slappy variants, the difference in feel is much less noticeable compared to say, a Thunder.
I bet part of the reason the difference between cast and forged is less noticeable in the Slappy trucks is because for most manufacturers, the forged plates are typically thinner than the cast. Since Slappy has the same thickness on both that takes away one significant variable.
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went home yesterday and checked the other truck and it was also bottomed out. I honestly don't know it my set came with either extra short top bushings, a kingpin that didn't have enough thread cut in, or a combination of the two...or if it's exactly as designed. I've only had the standard slappy trucks before this so I can't compare it to anything, nor have I even come across the IKP versions in person before. Anyway I sent a message to their insta and they replied quickly. It was suggested by them to try a harder bushing rather than a taller one, so I went with the boned hard and it seemed to work out fine enough. I think it's roughly close in height to the stock bushing. However I did try the ace top bushing, which is a lot taller, and I think it feels better, but I'll stick with slappy's suggestion for the time being though to see if I can get used to it quickly. I'm sure it will be fine.
Yeah, using a tall bushing cuts down grind clearance but fixes the issue. They def changed something, feels like a pin with fewer threads if this is showing up in standard IKP and the new forged.
The ikp is definitely bottoming out. This picture is with just the kingpin in the base plate screwed all the way down, no bushings. This is as far as it can go. With the stock bushings you’ll have fewer threads showing and it’s pretty loose. With some blue 92s indy aftermarkets, It’s acceptable at nut flush turn wise but I can’t tighten it any further because of the taller top bushing.
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went home yesterday and checked the other truck and it was also bottomed out. I honestly don't know it my set came with either extra short top bushings, a kingpin that didn't have enough thread cut in, or a combination of the two...or if it's exactly as designed. I've only had the standard slappy trucks before this so I can't compare it to anything, nor have I even come across the IKP versions in person before. Anyway I sent a message to their insta and they replied quickly. It was suggested by them to try a harder bushing rather than a taller one, so I went with the boned hard and it seemed to work out fine enough. I think it's roughly close in height to the stock bushing. However I did try the ace top bushing, which is a lot taller, and I think it feels better, but I'll stick with slappy's suggestion for the time being though to see if I can get used to it quickly. I'm sure it will be fine.
Yeah, using a tall bushing cuts down grind clearance but fixes the issue. They def changed something, feels like a pin with fewer threads if this is showing up in standard IKP and the new forged.
The ikp is definitely bottoming out. This picture is with just the kingpin in the base plate screwed all the way down, no bushings. This is as far as it can go. With the stock bushings you’ll have fewer threads showing and it’s pretty loose. With some blue 92s indy aftermarkets, It’s acceptable at nut flush turn wise but I can’t tighten it any further because of the taller top bushing.
(https://i.ibb.co/zZfLWtD/IMG-6579.jpg) (https://ibb.co/zZfLWtD)
Are these kingpins the shortest on the market? If not, then the shorter ones would be the solution to keeping the slappy top bush long and keeping the full grind clearance
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went home yesterday and checked the other truck and it was also bottomed out. I honestly don't know it my set came with either extra short top bushings, a kingpin that didn't have enough thread cut in, or a combination of the two...or if it's exactly as designed. I've only had the standard slappy trucks before this so I can't compare it to anything, nor have I even come across the IKP versions in person before. Anyway I sent a message to their insta and they replied quickly. It was suggested by them to try a harder bushing rather than a taller one, so I went with the boned hard and it seemed to work out fine enough. I think it's roughly close in height to the stock bushing. However I did try the ace top bushing, which is a lot taller, and I think it feels better, but I'll stick with slappy's suggestion for the time being though to see if I can get used to it quickly. I'm sure it will be fine.
Yeah, using a tall bushing cuts down grind clearance but fixes the issue. They def changed something, feels like a pin with fewer threads if this is showing up in standard IKP and the new forged.
The ikp is definitely bottoming out. This picture is with just the kingpin in the base plate screwed all the way down, no bushings. This is as far as it can go. With the stock bushings you’ll have fewer threads showing and it’s pretty loose. With some blue 92s indy aftermarkets, It’s acceptable at nut flush turn wise but I can’t tighten it any further because of the taller top bushing.
(https://i.ibb.co/zZfLWtD/IMG-6579.jpg) (https://ibb.co/zZfLWtD)
Are these kingpins the shortest on the market? If not, then the shorter ones would be the solution to keeping the slappy top bush long and keeping the full grind clearance
ROYAL | SLAPPY | INDY | KRUX (old 'down low' style)
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All but Krux not cross-compatible as the threading is different in the 'shaft nuts' (Krux only works in Indy).
I've seen someone with the old krux in the first gen (cast) IKP slappy plates - not sure how they did it because I couldn't get mine to go in either.
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I normally skate Ventures just because I'm always on 14" wheelbase boards and the extended axles on the Ventures compliments that well, but I tried a set of the original Slappy's and liked a lot of things about them - If I ever get a 14.25" board I think I'll bust them out again or try the new Low's once they're out.
I like this company and how they've been engaging with the community, and they're starting to get a really solid lineup of products. They repost a lot of fan content on their IG when people tag them and answer our spastic truck-madness emails. I want to see Slappy succeed.
Do you define "engaging with the community" as not selling into skate shops and doing an exclusive deal with Zumiez? Getting YouTubers as early adopters and paid reviewers? 1 step removed from the Cariuma playbook.
I've resisted heading into this thread for a long time cuz I don't wanna be tempted and they sound great in a ton of ways. Kind of like what I wanted AF1 to be. But their initial push rubbed a lot of people the wrong way.
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Hell yeah! I messaged Slappy a few months ago asking if there were any plans for a low truck and they just responded "We're working on something now", but then when they released the forged plate with the same height update I was a little disappointed because I thought that was all they had in mind - really cool to see that they did have something planned and delivered.
I normally skate Ventures just because I'm always on 14" wheelbase boards and the extended axles on the Ventures compliments that well, but I tried a set of the original Slappy's and liked a lot of things about them - If I ever get a 14.25" board I think I'll bust them out again or try the new Low's once they're out.
I like this company and how they've been engaging with the community, and they're starting to get a really solid lineup of products. They repost a lot of fan content on their IG when people tag them and answer our spastic truck-madness emails. I want to see Slappy succeed.
Do you define "engaging with the community" as not selling into skate shops and doing an exclusive deal with Zumiez? Getting YouTubers as early adopters and paid reviewers? 1 step removed from the Cariuma playbook.
I've resisted heading into this thread for a long time cuz I don't wanna be tempted and they sound great in a ton of ways. Kind of like what I wanted AF1 to be. But their initial push rubbed a lot of people the wrong way.
It is interesting that there were the Zumiez exclusives, as had been mentioned before, but has that now turned around completely because I don't see any Slappy products on the Zumiez site???
https://www.zumiez.com/brands/slappy-truck-co
I am not in USA so don't know if they still have them in stores, or whatever is going on, but maybe there was a change in direction and they are now only in other shops?
Just something to check / see any which way.
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*** Not sure what is going on but they do actually show up with some trucks when searching just the word SLAPPY.
https://www.zumiez.com/search/slappy
Just the curb creeper series, a couple of shirts and clearance regular 8.5 silver polished truck in stock.
Who clears out regular / standard lines??
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All but Krux not cross-compatible as the threading is different in the 'shaft nuts' (Krux only works in Indy).
I've seen someone with the old krux in the first gen (cast) IKP slappy plates - not sure how they did it because I couldn't get mine to go in either.
Thanks! I assumed all kp were same thread just different heights. Strange.
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I take back about the part about not being in many local shops- they definitely are available from many shops with an online presence, just hadn't seen them in the shops I frequent online or in person.
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I normally skate Ventures just because I'm always on 14" wheelbase boards and the extended axles on the Ventures compliments that well, but I tried a set of the original Slappy's and liked a lot of things about them - If I ever get a 14.25" board I think I'll bust them out again or try the new Low's once they're out.
I like this company and how they've been engaging with the community, and they're starting to get a really solid lineup of products. They repost a lot of fan content on their IG when people tag them and answer our spastic truck-madness emails. I want to see Slappy succeed.
Do you define "engaging with the community" as not selling into skate shops and doing an exclusive deal with Zumiez? Getting YouTubers as early adopters and paid reviewers? 1 step removed from the Cariuma playbook.
I've resisted heading into this thread for a long time cuz I don't wanna be tempted and they sound great in a ton of ways. Kind of like what I wanted AF1 to be. But their initial push rubbed a lot of people the wrong way.
When has Slappy not sold into skateshops?
I've purchased [all] my Slappy trucks from CORE shops...Oh, you mean those buttfucking ugly exclusives he gave zumiez? Who honestly gives a fuck? That Zumiez money gave him a leg up to keep the brand going; and I call bullshit if you wouldn't do the same damn thing trying to get a [truck] brand off the ground when facing the [truck] industy cartels.
Zumiez has an exclusive Nike SB Air Max Ishod colorway...boycott/hate Nike? Fuck Ishod right?
Zumiez has an exclusive Adidas Gazelle ADV colorway...fuck them too.
Have you ever purchased anything from Skatewarehouse? Tactics? CCS?
Paying reviewers bad. Flowing product to 'Tubers? Fine if the toobers keep it legit. Tell me you never watched a BenD vid or stopped once he started getting product. Don't watch DadBoard?
I fully understand the Zumiez hate but they were, at one time, a single CORE shop setup in the late 70s (yes in a mall, big deal), expanded and changed the name. They also have a 'give back' foundation (sure, probably a tax write off) but it appears limited as to who can launder...donate money and the employees are involved.
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*** Not sure what is going on but they do actually show up with some trucks when searching just the word SLAPPY.
https://www.zumiez.com/search/slappy
Just the curb creeper series, a couple of shirts and clearance regular 8.5 silver polished truck in stock.
Who clears out regular / standard lines??
I'm not entirely sure they ever did carry them? If they did, maybe it was just part of the initial 'we'll order if you give us some colorways" which is damn funny as no one is buying those colorways...Sinclair probably giggling at the check amount for ugly trucks and getting a foot into a retailer that serves a huge population and getting that name out.
I'm a fan of them, they turn and grind great; I am, however, massively dissapointed in the forged IKP shit I'm facing by being unable to tighten them enough using stock bushings and how trashfuck the stock bushings are.
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Is there ever been a truck with IKP that worked? (Stock ofc)
I keep seeing people getting them and never a good thing a about them.
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Is there ever been a truck with IKP that worked? (Stock ofc)
I keep seeing people getting them and never a good thing a about them.
I think a lot of people loved Grind King trucks, although I never had any growing up and only have acquired some from bulk lots of trade in used / old / second hand stock, none of which I had put on a board as they are all under 8" but pretty sure the inverted kingpin options on most of the older trucks just had a basic nut secured in the baseplate they could swap out as needed, so none of this other stuff they have now where the whole baseplate has to be changed to make it work.
I also have some Silver trucks that do have the longer built in nut, again, never skated them, but others have loved them too at times. They have a longer thread on the kingpin, like the first pic from @Xen too.
More than anything, I feel like these newer trucks just don't have enough threads on the kingpin, even another five or so threads would be plenty, just so you can take the kingpin down a little more if needed, as they seem quite limited in that regard. I have to use a stock / regular height top bushing, as my low top bushings I usually use don't tighten down enough, but would have given a lot more clearance.
Maybe more of the DIY type versions or older versions just worked better, or the people using them didn't go as hard as some of the people did that bought the Indy mids, or other current versions, then destroyed them and so they appear to have more issues than maybe they actually do.
I got a few sets of the Indy mids on sale and they have worked fine, or well enough with no issues, but I also saw first hand all the problems others were having with them, how they came apart, or the baseplate hole got bent with too much pressure, etc.
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I had Grind Kings as a kid and remembered they turned horribly, but looked cool to me at the time. No clue on how the IKP performed.
As for Slappy and Zumiez- early on they had sold into very few shops when they did the Zumiez collab. Clearly they have sold into more locals, so that criticism isn't valid. I do hold Tactics and CCS above Zumiez (the former more so) even if fundamentally they all sell skateboards and gear. The big Z was closer to me as a kid so it was my local in a way and they did have decent stock there, but from what I know about CCS and Tactics they have teams comprised of local/lower level skaters they support, engage a lot with their local community, and seem to stock a wider range of brands including smaller brands. They seem to be more oriented towards skating than overall mall sales.
What I actually do like about Zumiez is they have always had decent price point decks and clothing. Empyre isn't cool and never was, but quality wise nas been on par with skate brands.
With Nike and Adidas you're right. I guess I've mentally given up caring about shoe companies because the bigger ones have made better shoes for a while. With Nike I never really expect much to begin with and don't like a lot of models, but like that they gave Leo shoes (that I like) and a bunch of their smaller models. I'm not an Adidas fan one bit I hate the way their shoes skate and their durability. My non skate Adidas have all been terrible.
I think the YouTube review avenue most brands go through is kinda shitty, but seems like it's here to stay in a lot of niche sports and hobbies. I guess I can't blame Slappy if they're not offering money. I've only read a few pages of reviews after a friend got a set. They seem nicer than modern Indy or Ace and I wonder if these be more popular if they chose a different name. If it were not for me being perfectly content on Ventures and waiting on Lurpivs I'd try them.
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Any 'new' truck, hell even a revival (Grind king, Royal, Fury...let's be real, no one thought GK was gonna make a come back) is almost destined for failure.
They have three things going for them because they are true:
Grind, literally the best out; smooth feeling like ace classics but harder metal (like an ACE classic/indy hybrid). They grind amazing farther for me at the same spots with the same speed, so yeah, perfect for, well...um, slappys? Makes Royals feel even more like ventures here :(
Grind clearance, which is pretty insane again, the best out there (IKP or not) something I am really noticing when skating say...literally everything out there.
Less wheelbite (true) which has a lot to do with how they turn, i.e., they give you a lot of controllable movement (like thunder) in the intial turn/setup timing window, then slow down and smooth out (the latter is where I wheelbite with thunders...). These aren't a tight truck riders truck.
The name, I get it, capitalize on the slappy riders market (dominated by ACE and Indy)...naming a 'thing' is incredibly hard, I'm in the process of name creation with my team on a product (unrelated) and it's soooooo damn hard...everyone has a TM or (C) so you can't use what you want and the best option is always to just bonk people over the head with a name that describes what it actually is/is good for.
If you look at their insta, there is a lot of support, from them to the shops and community. Is it self serving? Sure is but they're selling a product and the best way to do that is show off your riders and shops that support you.
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I don't have social media and haven't since a bit after they launched. I'm glad they're a solid product and spreading their brand. It never hurts to have more options than the big few. Better grind is always tempting given I love Ventures, but I'm resisting changing anything on my setup but my wheels. It was a wild few years when I felt beholden to sticking with Ace/Indy and micro optimizing and then found a nice home with Ventures.
The IKP thing seems like it's a really easy solve. I wonder if they consciously limited it bc the threads marred on the sleeve?
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Does the no wheelbite thing on these trucks affect pinch on crooks?
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Does the no wheelbite thing on these trucks affect pinch on crooks?
Not at all...they turn in a bit like aces before you actually bite - it's not 'no' wheelbite, it's 'less' wheelbite. Every truck will wheelbite.
https://youtu.be/N2q3klwBkMQ?t=210
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The IKP thing seems like it's a really easy solve. I wonder if they consciously limited it bc the threads marred on the sleeve?
I think the thread's are limited to stop people over tightening and pushing the kingpin through the board.
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Tossed some kreeper kingpins in and they worked. More threads so you have the potential of hitting the board
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I need to stay off these truck pages im second guessing my comeback setup now
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if you leave the trucks "stock" like where the nut is perfectly flush with the bolt - will you still shred the top bushing with the stock top washer?
is there a different brand washer like Indy i could put on to stop this? I have a set of indy med-hard (the blue ones) bushings that would probably work awesome in these trucks (if they fit). Or at least just change the top bushing?
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Ya dude literally every truck is good these days. Royals have good reviews, Slappys are good, I wouldn't be shocked if the Destructos were good, people were liking Tensor ATG even! There are so many compelling cases for each that you could pick one at random and not be hindered. At the same time, I know from riding friends boards that I take a long time to adjust to gear changes (but can) and want to avoid that. Dunno what I'll do when I get Lurpivs.
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if you leave the trucks "stock" like where the nut is perfectly flush with the bolt - will you still shred the top bushing with the stock top washer?
is there a different brand washer like Indy i could put on to stop this? I have a set of indy med-hard (the blue ones) bushings that would probably work awesome in these trucks (if they fit). Or at least just change the top bushing?
The stock washer comes very 'cupped' rounded top but pretty long on the sides of the bushing, this is what digs in, switch to more of a 'cap' washer (Indy or ace) or flat and you should be fine....if it's surface area isn't to big, because it will bind if so (when riding loose).
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I need to stay off these truck pages im second guessing my comeback setup now
Save yourself now because truck madness is the absolute worst :P
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I need to stay off these truck pages im second guessing my comeback setup now
Save yourself now because truck madness is the absolute worst :P
The worst of the worst for sure (unless you only skate transition, then it's easier).
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10" Curb Killers
https://www.instagram.com/p/C7rfYaaRts4/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
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Damnit I feel the needle moving…. I’m gonna end up with some slappy lows, hopefully with some 52s I won’t wheelbite too crazy
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Damnit I feel the needle moving…. I’m gonna end up with some slappy lows, hopefully with some 52s I won’t wheelbite too crazy
Is that the ideal slappy (trick not truck) wheel size?
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Damnit I feel the needle moving…. I’m gonna end up with some slappy lows, hopefully with some 52s I won’t wheelbite too crazy
Is that the ideal slappy (trick not truck) wheel size?
Doesn't make a difference really, anything will work. Some wheels shape or wheels sizes tend to be a bit easier to roll onto the curbs, just depends on if it's angled/slanted/rounded edged. Technique trumps gear but any edge you can get is good to have.
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Damnit I feel the needle moving…. I’m gonna end up with some slappy lows, hopefully with some 52s I won’t wheelbite too crazy
Is that the ideal slappy (trick not truck) wheel size?
lol I don’t really do slappys…. I learned them frontside and that’s about it, I skate a lot of flat, ledges and manny pads, haven’t really felt the itch to spend an afternoon in a parking lot with a curb, but tastes change and it does seem like fun, I prefer low trucks, have been on ace lows with hard bushings, the metal is softer and I’m not a fan of the way they grind, it’s always a chore to push something further, and everyone says that these are made with a harder metal and they grind better also I’ve always wanted a pair of ikp trucks so these may finally push me over to the dark side
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Damnit I feel the needle moving…. I’m gonna end up with some slappy lows, hopefully with some 52s I won’t wheelbite too crazy
Is that the ideal slappy (trick not truck) wheel size?
lol I don’t really do slappys…. I learned them frontside and that’s about it, I skate a lot of flat, ledges and manny pads, haven’t really felt the itch to spend an afternoon in a parking lot with a curb, but tastes change and it does seem like fun, I prefer low trucks, have been on ace lows with hard bushings, the metal is softer and I’m not a fan of the way they grind, it’s always a chore to push something further, and everyone says that these are made with a harder metal and they grind better also I’ve always wanted a pair of ikp trucks so these may finally push me over to the dark side
It's a long wait until the slappy lows fall release tho. =(
As for 52s...man, I don't know maybe with some harder bushings or if you ride super tight. Sub 50mm trucks usually need equivilent or smaller sized wheels. The ACE lows with hard bushings and 50mm wheels were on point for that style of setup tho....just always felt I was defeating the purpose of getting ACEs at that point...weird that ACE low, Slappy low, Forged Mindy...ML...all similar style trucks provide the lowest options yet they're the turniest trucks but Venture lo are becoming extinct and only 147s are in the 'low' space.
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Skatewarehouse seems to have 100a slappy bushings, also 85a. Pic looks like same awful top washer. Not seeing these on the slappy website or anywhere else yet. I’m happy on 96a Indy but may try these anyway.
https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Slappy_Standard_100a_Bushings_2_Truck/descpage-SY100BU.html
Edit: shoplurker show ccs also has them.
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Yeah that’s the trash washer…I threw the stocks back in with both a thicker sleeved washer and put an extra bones washer on top, gave me enough room to tighten the IKP it where I needed.
Problem is fucked with them so much there is next to grab on the nylock.
Those bushings are legit btw.
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Damnit I feel the needle moving…. I’m gonna end up with some slappy lows, hopefully with some 52s I won’t wheelbite too crazy
Is that the ideal slappy (trick not truck) wheel size?
lol I don’t really do slappys…. I learned them frontside and that’s about it, I skate a lot of flat, ledges and manny pads, haven’t really felt the itch to spend an afternoon in a parking lot with a curb, but tastes change and it does seem like fun, I prefer low trucks, have been on ace lows with hard bushings, the metal is softer and I’m not a fan of the way they grind, it’s always a chore to push something further, and everyone says that these are made with a harder metal and they grind better also I’ve always wanted a pair of ikp trucks so these may finally push me over to the dark side
It's a long wait until the slappy lows fall release tho. =(
As for 52s...man, I don't know maybe with some harder bushings or if you ride super tight. Sub 50mm trucks usually need equivilent or smaller sized wheels. The ACE lows with hard bushings and 50mm wheels were on point for that style of setup tho....just always felt I was defeating the purpose of getting ACEs at that point...weird that ACE low, Slappy low, Forged Mindy...ML...all similar style trucks provide the lowest options yet they're the turniest trucks but Venture lo are becoming extinct and only 147s are in the 'low' space.
Yea it’s a bad time to be a low rider
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Ya dude literally every truck is good these days. Royals have good reviews, Slappys are good, I wouldn't be shocked if the Destructos were good, people were liking Tensor ATG even! There are so many compelling cases for each that you could pick one at random and not be hindered. At the same time, I know from riding friends boards that I take a long time to adjust to gear changes (but can) and want to avoid that. Dunno what I'll do when I get Lurpivs.
I love destructos I ride D1s with bones bushings on my 8.5 board for parks and d2s with bones bushings with ikps on my 8.9 for street/curbs both are 5.75
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I read somewhere that there is gonna be harder bushings coming standard in the new trucks???? Anyone got an eta?
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I read somewhere that there is gonna be harder bushings coming standard in the new trucks???? Anyone got an eta?
They've 100a bushings, not to be stock that I am aware of. I think hard stock bushings would turn people of
"these things don't turn"
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I remember reading that somewhere as well but I’m going to guess since they are now selling the 100a and 85a that they’ll keep what comes stock the same. I also thought I heard they were changing top washer but I don’t think that’s happening either.
I got the 100a and they feel almost the same as the yellow Indy 96a, and not nearly as hard as a 100a mini logo. They also come with same top washer as the trucks so no change there either.
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Appreciate the answer guys, was gonna wait a bit to grab a pair because I prefer the harder duro bushings but I’ll just get a pair of the 100a as well, maybe throw the harder bushing road side and keep the top stock
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They're supposed to change the top washer...but I'd imagine 'you gotta use what you have' before you change stock. Maybe we'll get new top washers with the longer threaded kingpins or perhaps even the lows in fall.
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I do freestyle every now and then and have 98a Venom and Khiro bushings, and my Indy 109s do not turn in the slightest (that's freestyle, kids). I can't imagine those Slappy bushings are a real 100.
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I do freestyle every now and then and have 98a Venom and Khiro bushings, and my Indy 109s do not turn in the slightest (that's freestyle, kids). I can't imagine those Slappy bushings are a real 100.
Why can't you?
https://www.boardparadise.com/slappy-standard-bushings-washers-set-100a-wht-2pr/
Have you ridden the 100a?
The 100a bushings I received as replacements [to the stock 90a] are hard. Very hard. As or harder feeling in the trucks than the 96a Indy bushings I've ridden in them (I do not have a durometer to gauge).
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Yea I live in Texas so we can usually run a harder duro and after they break in they are good to go, I’m not that heavy or anything but I do prefer a stable truck that only moves when I want it to, so hopefully the “hards” are good, got cleared by the doc to return to skating, getting fitted for my active brace pretty soon, hyped to get back to skating…even if it’s gonna be cruising the local parking lot for a bit
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Yea I live in Texas so we can usually run a harder duro and after they break in they are good to go, I’m not that heavy or anything but I do prefer a stable truck that only moves when I want it to, so hopefully the “hards” are good, got cleared by the doc to return to skating, getting fitted for my active brace pretty soon, hyped to get back to skating…even if it’s gonna be cruising the local parking lot for a bit
That's where I'm at now here in LA, it's hot enough where 100a is much more flexible and feel a few duro lower.
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I do freestyle every now and then and have 98a Venom and Khiro bushings, and my Indy 109s do not turn in the slightest (that's freestyle, kids). I can't imagine those Slappy bushings are a real 100.
Why can't you?
https://www.boardparadise.com/slappy-standard-bushings-washers-set-100a-wht-2pr/
Have you ridden the 100a?
The 100a bushings I received as replacements [to the stock 90a] are hard. Very hard. As or harder feeling in the trucks than the 96a Indy bushings I've ridden in them (I do not have a durometer to gauge).
Not wanting to go round in circles, but I doubt the Indy 96a bushings are a true 96. And those I've actually tried. Tony Gale, a freestyler who runs Offset Skate Supply, tested the Ace 94a bushings as 90a (https://offsetskatesupply.co.uk/product/ace-af1-hard-bushing-kit/ (https://offsetskatesupply.co.uk/product/ace-af1-hard-bushing-kit/)). I'd guess the Slappy bushings have a similar discrepancy. Mini Logo 100a feel hard, as Amocat mentioned above, and I'd have more faith in Powell giving an accurate rating, along with bushing companies like Riptide, Venom, Khiro.
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Certainly looks like twice the grind clearance as on the Indies. How high are those, weight, I need specs.
All Slappy's are 53.9mm
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Here's something I never noticed before:
(https://i.ibb.co/6yFqQ4j/IMG-6966.jpg)
There is a slight 'divot' curve/cut out on the bottom of the yoke where the 'pinch' happens (couldn't get a good pic).
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Here's something I never notived before:
(https://i.ibb.co/6yFqQ4j/IMG-6966.jpg)
There is a slight 'divot' curve/cut out on the bottom of the yoke where the 'pinch' happens (couldn't get a good pic).
Interesting/weird. Wonder is this was intentional and serves some kind of purpose.
IG havers, hit those DMs now. The world must know.
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Here's something I never notived before:
(https://i.ibb.co/6yFqQ4j/IMG-6966.jpg)
There is a slight 'divot' curve/cut out on the bottom of the yoke where the 'pinch' happens (couldn't get a good pic).
Interesting/weird. Wonder is this was intentional and serves some kind of purpose.
IG havers, hit those DMs now. The world must know.
Cut-away is intentional & as designed: facilitates a bit more dip/turn. Without that lickle divot in the hanger, the outboard edge(s) of the yoke would make contact w/ the bottom (board-side) bushing washer.
Tip it all the way over & take a look how nicely it “cradles” the bushing & washer.
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Wow what well thought out trucks
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Here's something I never notived before:
(https://i.ibb.co/6yFqQ4j/IMG-6966.jpg)
There is a slight 'divot' curve/cut out on the bottom of the yoke where the 'pinch' happens (couldn't get a good pic).
What bushings are those?
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Here's something I never notived before:
(https://i.ibb.co/6yFqQ4j/IMG-6966.jpg)
There is a slight 'divot' curve/cut out on the bottom of the yoke where the 'pinch' happens (couldn't get a good pic).
What bushings are those?
@yghartsyrt
92a Doh-Doh 'yellows'
Apparently people over at shorty's don't know the difference between yellow and orange.
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Lows looking good
(https://i.ibb.co/RBRTRFR/Screenshot-2024-08-20-202107.png) (https://ibb.co/RBRTRFR)
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C-yUOsjy5kA/?hl=en
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Now that I'm fully adjusted to Slappys, they've replaced my Aces full time and will be my truck of choice for now. They're just a better version of Ace in my opinion.
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Now that I'm fully adjusted to Slappys, they've replaced my Aces full time and will be my truck of choice for now. They're just a better version of Ace in my opinion.
They're my favorite ACE/Indy style truck these days. Zero complaints.
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Haven't lurked this thread for awhile but I've been slappy curious. The geometry/performance sounds up my alley and I'm gonna need new trucks soon so I'm thinking about trying the standards hollows. I want to run them stock at first but if I end up having to go into bushing madness what brands work with them? I know they have a short top bushing/washer issue but is there any thing else I should know before I buy?
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Lows looking good
(https://i.ibb.co/RBRTRFR/Screenshot-2024-08-20-202107.png) (https://ibb.co/RBRTRFR)
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C-yUOsjy5kA/?hl=en
Damn, they kept the kingpin clearance too.
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Haven't lurked this thread for awhile but I've been slappy curious. The geometry/performance sounds up my alley and I'm gonna need new trucks soon so I'm thinking about trying the standards hollows. I want to run them stock at first but if I end up having to go into bushing madness what brands work with them? I know they have a short top bushing/washer issue but is there any thing else I should know before I buy?
I ran Indy and mini logo bushings and they seemed almost the same as slappy bushings. Fortunately those two are all I tried before they put out the slappy 100a.
I ended up using the mini logo top washer, considered just a flat one. Stock ones seem unnecessarily aggressive on the cupping.
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Haven't lurked this thread for awhile but I've been slappy curious. The geometry/performance sounds up my alley and I'm gonna need new trucks soon so I'm thinking about trying the standards hollows. I want to run them stock at first but if I end up having to go into bushing madness what brands work with them? I know they have a short top bushing/washer issue but is there any thing else I should know before I buy?
I ran Indy and mini logo bushings and they seemed almost the same as slappy bushings. Fortunately those two are all I tried before they put out the slappy 100a.
I ended up using the mini logo top washer, considered just a flat one. Stock ones seem unnecessarily aggressive on the cupping.
@minilogoflow
Indy are the best fit (tho the tops ARE taller as slappys are essentially low tops). Also, the Slappy tops compress like fucking crazy...they get super duper low (that grind clearance you know) but oddly the bottoms don't get as wrecked. If you run stock, or swap out bushings, switch out the stock slappy washer, they will shred EVERYTHING...total shit design...Sinclair probably sitting on thousands of them and can't switch...
Bones are also a good alternative, if you don't blow them out (I never do).
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I know is silly but the name bothers me greatly at the same time hearing that is like a better Ace is quite tempting. I might try them after since my current Aces have a lot of life on them and I have the BA ones on ice so it will be a while.
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I don't need any trucks rn, I've been skating thunders for like a decade, and they always treated me well. The only time they broke, I got it replaced for free by DLX so I'll never complain about them.
That being said, those Slappy trucks seem really interesting for a quiver/transition board.
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What makes Slappy trucks 'better Ace's'? I've been riding Ace's for a couple of years but this talk about it being better has peaked my interest.
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What makes Slappy trucks 'better Ace's'? I've been riding Ace's for a couple of years but this talk about it being better has peaked my interest.
They feel like the AF-1 to me but with two differences:
1. Slightly more stable on center, but still really tight turning radius.
2. Hanger has softer metal so it grinds more easily.
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the best setup is the one you're used to.
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What makes Slappy trucks 'better Ace's'? I've been riding Ace's for a couple of years but this talk about it being better has peaked my interest.
They feel like the AF-1 to me but with two differences:
1. Slightly more stable on center, but still really tight turning radius.
2. Hanger has softer metal so it grinds more easily.
3. the kp clearance is insane
4. wheelbites dont really happen, I have 1/8" risers and 60mm 93s but I can carve deep with all my weight and no issues.
5. Lighter weight.
The name "Slappy" was never an issue for me. I think it's silly to stay away because of that.
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Most truck preferences are silly. Not riding Slappy cuz of the name isn't much different than everyone flipping about Indy moving to China or claiming Ventures don't turn because they rode lows one time in 2002. I have avoided Slappy because I just don't want more truck madness, but the branding is one reason why. KP clearance on Venture and Indy don't limit me and both turn and grind fine. Every truck has its limits and sometimes I pick to ride something based purely on how it feels or my mood. Indy is a corny brand, but I really like the way they skate and never have issues with them. Slappy doesn't offer me any upside except ditching the Indy branding, but I do so for one that has branding that I personally feel is corny. They went the "lets give these to ppl on social media to grow the brand with pseudo sketchy reviews" approach that Cariuma did. While core shops carry them now, the early push to be in only large shops and Zumiez was kinda gross. With Ventures I have brand nostalgia and like the team and image.
None of this bullshit helps me skate, but having a setup I vibe with makes me content to skate and not think about shit. When I was always in pure madness mode mixing dimensions or graphics or trucks from brands I didn't like I never really felt excited or content with my board.
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Damnit I feel the needle moving…. I’m gonna end up with some slappy lows, hopefully with some 52s I won’t wheelbite too crazy
Is that the ideal slappy (trick not truck) wheel size?
lol I don’t really do slappys…. I learned them frontside and that’s about it, I skate a lot of flat, ledges and manny pads, haven’t really felt the itch to spend an afternoon in a parking lot with a curb, but tastes change and it does seem like fun, I prefer low trucks, have been on ace lows with hard bushings, the metal is softer and I’m not a fan of the way they grind, it’s always a chore to push something further, and everyone says that these are made with a harder metal and they grind better also I’ve always wanted a pair of ikp trucks so these may finally push me over to the dark side
Venture low the best low truck by a mile
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Haven't lurked this thread for awhile but I've been slappy curious. The geometry/performance sounds up my alley and I'm gonna need new trucks soon so I'm thinking about trying the standards hollows. I want to run them stock at first but if I end up having to go into bushing madness what brands work with them? I know they have a short top bushing/washer issue but is there any thing else I should know before I buy?
I ran Indy and mini logo bushings and they seemed almost the same as slappy bushings. Fortunately those two are all I tried before they put out the slappy 100a.
I ended up using the mini logo top washer, considered just a flat one. Stock ones seem unnecessarily aggressive on the cupping.
@minilogoflow
Indy are the best fit (tho the tops ARE taller as slappys are essentially low tops). Also, the Slappy tops compress like fucking crazy...they get super duper low (that grind clearance you know) but oddly the bottoms don't get as wrecked. If you run stock, or swap out bushings, switch out the stock slappy washer, they will shred EVERYTHING...total shit design...Sinclair probably sitting on thousands of them and can't switch...
Bones are also a good alternative, if you don't blow them out (I never do).
From the sound of it, if I do end up switching bushings bones seem like the best fit since you can run the tops without washers to get it lower rather than shaving down other brands tops.
Thanks for the info @xen
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What makes Slappy trucks 'better Ace's'? I've been riding Ace's for a couple of years but this talk about it being better has peaked my interest.
They feel like the AF-1 to me but with two differences:
1. Slightly more stable on center, but still really tight turning radius.
2. Hanger has softer metal so it grinds more easily.
3. the kp clearance is insane
4. wheelbites dont really happen, I have 1/8" risers and 60mm 93s but I can carve deep with all my weight and no issues.
5. Lighter weight.
The name "Slappy" was never an issue for me. I think it's silly to stay away because of that.
You got me curious. I think I'm almost done with the Aces I'm riding right now, might give 'em a shot.
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What makes Slappy trucks 'better Ace's'? I've been riding Ace's for a couple of years but this talk about it being better has peaked my interest.
They feel like the AF-1 to me but with two differences:
1. Slightly more stable on center, but still really tight turning radius.
2. Hanger has softer metal so it grinds more easily.
3. the kp clearance is insane
4. wheelbites dont really happen, I have 1/8" risers and 60mm 93s but I can carve deep with all my weight and no issues.
5. Lighter weight.
The name "Slappy" was never an issue for me. I think it's silly to stay away because of that.
You got me curious. I think I'm almost done with the Aces I'm riding right now, might give 'em a shot.
Give them a try. I rode Aces for years and happy to ride Slappy now. Just change the top bushing washer to something that had less sharp edge so it wont cut the bushing ,lol. I dont know of they fixed that issue already but I used some spare washers.
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That's gotta suck for Sinclair that he spent time mastering the engineering of 2 of the most popular trucks on the market only to fuck up the top washer. Do they shred that much more than DLX trucks?
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That's gotta suck for Sinclair that he spent time mastering the engineering of 2 of the most popular trucks on the market only to fuck up the top washer. Do they shred that much more than DLX trucks?
Within the first half hour, no joke (and thats riding stock). If you put on an different, or flat washer, no issues. It's the slappy specific top washer.
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I see the new Low Profile Slappys are starting to arrive at skateshops (Venue). Anybody skate them already? I'm probably unreasonably excited about them.
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Lows looking good
(https://i.ibb.co/RBRTRFR/Screenshot-2024-08-20-202107.png) (https://ibb.co/RBRTRFR)
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C-yUOsjy5kA/?hl=en
Curious how they ride. I've been settled in on forged Venture highs on a 14" WB for several months now, but I want to try the Slappy lows on a 14.25", I think that should pair nicely.
I tried the Slappy standards awhile back and had an overall good opinion on them, but I don't think they suited my setup the best - the 54mm truck height is a bit tall as far as proportions go when you're on an 8" board IMO, so the slightly lower and wider WB Ventures were more comfortable to me.
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941 has them: https://941skateshop.com/products/slappy-hollow-low-8-75?srsltid=AfmBOorFNFCxvTD1AMursa8JDeC93uYblP8QgppN1bXYaZCVobAXsV5f
8" - 8.75"
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941 has them: https://941skateshop.com/products/slappy-hollow-low-8-75?srsltid=AfmBOorFNFCxvTD1AMursa8JDeC93uYblP8QgppN1bXYaZCVobAXsV5f
8" - 8.75"
I went ahead and jumped the gun lol, ordered a pair of 8" lows from Venue after Jar mentioned it above.
May not try them out until later in the winter or whenever I get a 14.25". Trying to only change one major thing at a time, I want to try a longer board and an 8.13" on my current setup before trying the longer WB and Slaps.
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Skated my 8.5 ST1 hollows for the first time today. Previous to these I was on Venture lows for 20 years, then Thunder for 5, and have spent the last few months on Indy stage 11 standards. Loved the Indy’s other than the weight. Onto the Slappys. The first trucks I’ve ever set up and not had to adjust from the get go. I may even need to loosen them a half turn but out of the box they felt great. They accomplished my goal of dropping some weight from the Indys and regaining my manual tricks that I lost with the Indys. My only negative was they didn’t grind as smooth as my previous trucks but I’ll chalk that up to them being brand new. As my session went on they got a little smoother. All in all I’m happy with them after an hour long session this morning.
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Man, I just realized Slappys are c. 54mm in height and c. +3.1" regarding effective wheelbase.
If these stand correct, I might have found my next favorite truck on paper.
Now all I gotta do is try a pair.
Currently on Indy Titanium 149, which I really like with a BBS 8.25/14.38 shape.
Hmm. Madness ahead?
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Lurpiv has pretty similar dimensions and geometry as well. I dont know what the exact WB pushout is but its similar to thunders, you can just tell by the way they turn. It is basically the complete opposite of Ace. I was pretty set on Slappys but I had to drive an hour to get them and my local got Lurpivs and they delivered what I was hoping to get from Slappy. I actually could use the extra height too cause im on 58mm wheels. The bushings are really good on Lurpiv too. I have heard someone in this thread complaining about the top washer on Slappy trucks destroys the bushing which is not great to hear. But I imagine they have quite good bushings too just from what I have seen. They have to be better than DLX bushings.
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Lurpiv has pretty similar dimensions and geometry as well. I dont know what the exact WB pushout is but its similar to thunders, you can just tell by the way they turn. It is basically the complete opposite of Ace. I was pretty set on Slappys but I had to drive an hour to get them and my local got Lurpivs and they delivered what I was hoping to get from Slappy. I actually could use the extra height too cause im on 58mm wheels. The bushings are really good on Lurpiv too. I have heard someone in this thread complaining about the top washer on Slappy trucks destroys the bushing which is not great to hear. But I imagine they have quite good bushings too just from what I have seen. They have to be better than DLX bushings.
Any idea what the Slappy bottom bushing height is? From what I've read on Slap, the Slappy top is 9.5mm which is the same as Venture stock top.
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So is the final verdict on slappy ikp is that they come loose on their own like most other ikp?
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Lurpiv has pretty similar dimensions and geometry as well. I dont know what the exact WB pushout is but its similar to thunders, you can just tell by the way they turn. It is basically the complete opposite of Ace. I was pretty set on Slappys but I had to drive an hour to get them and my local got Lurpivs and they delivered what I was hoping to get from Slappy. I actually could use the extra height too cause im on 58mm wheels. The bushings are really good on Lurpiv too. I have heard someone in this thread complaining about the top washer on Slappy trucks destroys the bushing which is not great to hear. But I imagine they have quite good bushings too just from what I have seen. They have to be better than DLX bushings.
Any idea what the Slappy bottom bushing height is? From what I've read on Slap, the Slappy top is 9.5mm which is the same as Venture stock top.
Same as Venture/Indy.
Stock slappy top is shorter than venture and compresses way waaaaaaaaaaaaaay down to a low top (which is awesome).
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I really don't need any more trucks, but I was tempted by the lows until I saw they have a hollow axle. Weird that they are only putting them out with hollow axle and kingpin so far.
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I really don't need any more trucks, but I was tempted by the lows until I saw they have a hollow axle. Weird that they are only putting them out with hollow axle and kingpin so far.
I would have assumed a 'standard' low at min, or at least forged...
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I like how slappy has heaps of spreadsheets just showing facts. Pandering to the Slap dorkery, an appreciated move. They're claiming true to wheelbase axle placements, which is cool.
(https://i.imgur.com/UaPOwKL.png)
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I like how slappy has heaps of spreadsheets just showing facts. Pandering to the Slap dorkery, an appreciated move. They're claiming true to wheelbase axle placements, which is cool.
(https://i.imgur.com/UaPOwKL.png)
i think this is pretty misleading. not showing the actual displacement skews this chart. not saying they aren't in the middle, but they should start with the actual "true" wheelbase on say a 14.25 wb. also saying thunder and venture are the same is wrong especially considering forged and cast arent the same.
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I like how slappy has heaps of spreadsheets just showing facts. Pandering to the Slap dorkery, an appreciated move. They're claiming true to wheelbase axle placements, which is cool.
(https://i.imgur.com/UaPOwKL.png)
It’s a Reddit level chart.
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I like how slappy has heaps of spreadsheets just showing facts. Pandering to the Slap dorkery, an appreciated move. They're claiming true to wheelbase axle placements, which is cool.
i think this is pretty misleading. not showing the actual displacement skews this chart. not saying they aren't in the middle, but they should start with the actual "true" wheelbase on say a 14.25 wb. also saying thunder and venture are the same is wrong especially considering forged and cast arent the same.
I was thinking something similar, but I guess when it is someone specifically using this as a selling tool, of course they are going to make it all about their own product. It would be silly to think otherwise.
That said, yes, those other trucks are not the same, Thunder, then Venture cast, then Venture forged as the longest, but having too many options on it would take away from the white middle point - again, focus on the selling point of them being very much middle of the road and everything else is just there round it.
Indy is pretty much an even 3.0 with Ace being 2.75 or so, with Slappy being 3.125 and then the others longer again.
I am still yet to even see Slappy and try a set, but I feel like I have enough options right now with the main four, so it is not a big deal to me. Maybe if someone I knew had a set or I could see them in person, it might be different, but I am in no rush.
Good luck to them anyway. At least from what others have said, they are a decent truck.
* Had the decimal place in the wrong spot - late nights don't agree with me sometimes.
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That chart is whack. I mean, Venture pushes the wb out a whole lot more that what the chart indicates.
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He's got Thunder and Venturr wrong, but they're closer than what Slap reports. For me Thunder are +8.125 on the dot and Venture cast slightly more maybe 3.18 or something. Venture forged is like 3.3. Problem is that it's only 1 part of the equation. Showing a board on the ground instead of the shot they used would should how Indy's tuck the wheels but also get higher. The net pop angle is within a few decimal places of my Venture cast, but it feels different for sure. I think since Indy are taller the tail takes a tad longer to hit but there is more momentum from a bigger arc? I'm not a physicist, but that's how it makes sense to me.
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Has anyone tried out the new bushings yet? It looks like they come in 85a, 90a and 100a
(https://socalskateshop.com/mm5/graphics/00000001/41/Slappy-Trucks-Skateboard-Truck-Bushings-85a-White-1_280x280.jpg)(https://socalskateshop.com/mm5/graphics/00000001/40/Slappy-Trucks-Bushings-90a-White-1_280x280.jpg)(https://socalskateshop.com/mm5/graphics/00000001/41/Slappy-Trucks-Skateboard-Truck-Bushings-100a-White-1_280x280.jpg)
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Has anyone tried out the new bushings yet? It looks like they come in 85a, 90a and 100a
(https://socalskateshop.com/mm5/graphics/00000001/41/Slappy-Trucks-Skateboard-Truck-Bushings-85a-White-1_280x280.jpg)(https://socalskateshop.com/mm5/graphics/00000001/40/Slappy-Trucks-Bushings-90a-White-1_280x280.jpg)(https://socalskateshop.com/mm5/graphics/00000001/41/Slappy-Trucks-Skateboard-Truck-Bushings-100a-White-1_280x280.jpg)
I have the 100s, they're very very hard.
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Missing a duro at the 94 range, but yeah, their branding and packaging is on point.
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Has anyone tried out the new bushings yet? It looks like they come in 85a, 90a and 100a
(https://socalskateshop.com/mm5/graphics/00000001/41/Slappy-Trucks-Skateboard-Truck-Bushings-85a-White-1_280x280.jpg)(https://socalskateshop.com/mm5/graphics/00000001/40/Slappy-Trucks-Bushings-90a-White-1_280x280.jpg)(https://socalskateshop.com/mm5/graphics/00000001/41/Slappy-Trucks-Skateboard-Truck-Bushings-100a-White-1_280x280.jpg)
I have the 100s, they're very very hard.
I haven't checked this thread in ages. That is dope that all their bushings are white regardless of hardness.
I didn't know the Slappy lows were already upon us. I messaged him like a man, but didn't receive a response, so I messaged his wife to say that they should release a Pug colorway of the low truck, preferably fawn/black, where they put a curly tail on one truck and the Pug face on the other truck so you can tell nose from the tail and call it the Mi-lo since his little munchkin that recently passed was named Milo. Hopefully they come out and they contribute a certain percentage to Pug rescues or something.
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Has anyone tried out the new bushings yet? It looks like they come in 85a, 90a and 100a
(https://socalskateshop.com/mm5/graphics/00000001/41/Slappy-Trucks-Skateboard-Truck-Bushings-85a-White-1_280x280.jpg)(https://socalskateshop.com/mm5/graphics/00000001/40/Slappy-Trucks-Bushings-90a-White-1_280x280.jpg)(https://socalskateshop.com/mm5/graphics/00000001/41/Slappy-Trucks-Skateboard-Truck-Bushings-100a-White-1_280x280.jpg)
I have the 100s, they're very very hard.
I haven't checked this thread in ages. That is dope that all their bushings are white regardless of hardness.
I didn't know the Slappy lows were already upon us. I messaged him like a man, but didn't receive a response, so I messaged his wife to say that they should release a Pug colorway of the low truck, preferably fawn/black, where they put a curly tail on one truck and the Pug face on the other truck so you can tell nose from the tail and call it the Mi-lo since his little munchkin that recently passed was named Milo. Hopefully they come out and they contribute a certain percentage to Pug rescues or something.
That sounds like Krux
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I ordered another set of the 100a bushings, they arrived and have a larger top washer with them, about 1.5mm larger. I think this would fix the whole washer eats the bushing immediately issue that I and a few others experienced.
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I ordered another set of the 100a bushings, they arrived and have a larger top washer with them, about 1.5mm larger. I think this would fix the whole washer eats the bushing immediately issue that I and a few others experienced.
Makes sense to be able to update a new run of these (they were sold out for a while) and include the new washer; shame that shitty washer is still shipping with trucks; maybe it's fixed with the lows?
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running 8.5 standards a couple of sessions. Tried to make stock bushing work but they were so soft so i put indy hards in and the turns alright. clearance is alright still. i hink these trucks lend to still working as intending even when you fuck with geometry. anyway theyre like a far less frustrating dlx truck;turn more than venture and dont dump you to wheelbite like thunder. very very stable, very good return to center. they skate shorter than they are if that makes sense
Chomped some local curbs and I like the grind a lot! the return to center helps stand up on things but they do go a little further than the indy 159s I was running on my janky rock-filled curbs
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Whattup yall, first time poster , me lurkey long time.
Have some personal nerd shit on Slappys to share , maybe someone wants this info (& maybe not!)
Been on ST1 hollows 8.5 for a bit now, I’m a former Ace gripper but have been converted.
The 54mm height works perfect for me w/ no risers , I dig it.
However , when Slappy was releasing the Lows (@50mm) AND Slappy Slab risers in both 2mm & 4mm heights (both hard plastic , none of that shock pad bullshit) I saw an opportunity to drive myself even more crazy, with fine tuning truck height as I please/ per deck.
As a normal 1/8” riser is 3.175mm (which I’m just gonna call 3mm henceforth) , you have the opportunity to have the height of 50, 52, 53, 54, 55 (2+3) 56 (2+4) etc by mixing and matching
The 50 isn’t useful to me but the rest is ..
The only caveat here is that the Slappy Lows actually provide a *slightly* shorter wheelbase overall than the ST1s - which I suspected , but obvs didn’t wanna trust my eyes so I set both up on the same deck and measured both sides axle to axle and avg’ed - and low and behold - 1/8” shorter wheelbase on the Lows.. No huge deal to some but worth noting for me …
Princess and the pea shit over here 🥴
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I really want a set of lows!
The problem is, given how the models have rolled out...the standard lows just dropped so we can expect the low IKP next, followed a few months later by the forged low IKP....
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Oh - I also weighed the lows . I bought the Lows in 8.75 so I had the option of hanger length too , I.e. I could swap the 8.5 hollow hanger I already had onto the lows, or vice versa — the new 8.75 hanger onto the standard height ST1 hollow baseplate. As the hangers are unchanged .
So this weight is for the 8.75 Low
366g
Slappy says the 8.5 ST1 hollow is 368g
So I imagine just slightly lighter with the 8.5, at some point I’ll actually weigh that set up
So just some extra info to pass, hadn’t seen weights yet for the lows
(https://i.ibb.co/2qDTWP3/IMG-2203.jpg) (https://ibb.co/2qDTWP3)
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Oh - I also weighed the lows . I bought the Lows in 8.75 so I had the option of hanger length too , I.e. I could swap the 8.5 hollow hanger I already had onto the lows, or vice versa — the new 8.75 hanger onto the standard height ST1 hollow baseplate. As the hangers are unchanged .
So this weight is for the 8.75 Low
366g
Slappy says the 8.5 ST1 hollow is 368g
So I imagine just slightly lighter with the 8.5, at some point I’ll actually weigh that set up
So just some extra info to pass, hadn’t seen weights yet for the lows
(https://i.ibb.co/2qDTWP3/IMG-2203.jpg) (https://ibb.co/2qDTWP3)
Did you snap any pics of the low plate bottom? Is it hex? Wonder if it's worth just banging out that stock pin and throwing in an IKP, depending on how much GK you'd net.
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Oh - I also weighed the lows . I bought the Lows in 8.75 so I had the option of hanger length too , I.e. I could swap the 8.5 hollow hanger I already had onto the lows, or vice versa — the new 8.75 hanger onto the standard height ST1 hollow baseplate. As the hangers are unchanged .
So this weight is for the 8.75 Low
366g
Slappy says the 8.5 ST1 hollow is 368g
So I imagine just slightly lighter with the 8.5, at some point I’ll actually weigh that set up
So just some extra info to pass, hadn’t seen weights yet for the lows
(https://i.ibb.co/2qDTWP3/IMG-2203.jpg) (https://ibb.co/2qDTWP3)
Did you snap any pics of the low plate bottom? Is it hex? Wonder if it's worth just banging out that stock pin and throwing in an IKP, depending on how much GK you'd net.
It honestly looked like both , like almost a hex adapter that a round/splined kingpin had been pressed into?
I’ll try and take a pic sometime tomorrow and post it to show ya what I mean
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Here is a photo of the bottom of the Low baseplate , hopefully you can see what I mean - either way tho- should def be able to put a hex head in …
(https://i.ibb.co/S0PZTxP/IMG-2441.jpg) (https://ibb.co/S0PZTxP)
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Here is a photo of the bottom of the Low baseplate , hopefully you can see what I mean - either way tho- should def be able to put a hex head in …
(https://i.ibb.co/S0PZTxP/IMG-2441.jpg) (https://ibb.co/S0PZTxP)
And sorry for the dog hair on there lol .. I promise those aren’t my Arctic white body hairs 😆
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Here is a photo of the bottom of the Low baseplate , hopefully you can see what I mean - either way tho- should def be able to put a hex head in …
(https://i.ibb.co/S0PZTxP/IMG-2441.jpg) (https://ibb.co/S0PZTxP)
Cool, thanks! The cavity doesn't look deep enough to not have the nut dig into board (like trying to get thunder forged plates working with an IKP).
Gonna hold until at least the forged lows hit (they are coming)...be cool to see a forged IKP low. For now I'm bacak on forged mindys with a hollow slappy pin, shittier GC and a few grams heavier but it'll do for now. Kinda off regular slappies now, they're amazing, but I can really feel the height diff stepping on them or regular (even forged indys). Apparently my muscle memory still prefers thos only thunder 149ers ;)
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Here is a photo of the bottom of the Low baseplate , hopefully you can see what I mean - either way tho- should def be able to put a hex head in …
(https://i.ibb.co/S0PZTxP/IMG-2441.jpg) (https://ibb.co/S0PZTxP)
Cool, thanks! The cavity doesn't look deep enough to not have the nut dig into board (like trying to get thunder forged plates working with an IKP).
Gonna hold until at least the forged lows hit (they are coming)...be cool to see a forged IKP low. For now I'm bacak on forged mindys with a hollow slappy pin, shittier GC and a few grams heavier but it'll do for now. Kinda off regular slappies now, they're amazing, but I can really feel the height diff stepping on them or regular (even forged indys). Apparently my muscle memory still prefers thos only thunder 149ers ;)
Makes sense! .. & yeah, stoked to see what else they got coming..
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Here is a photo of the bottom of the Low baseplate , hopefully you can see what I mean - either way tho- should def be able to put a hex head in …
(https://i.ibb.co/S0PZTxP/IMG-2441.jpg) (https://ibb.co/S0PZTxP)
Cool, thanks! The cavity doesn't look deep enough to not have the nut dig into board (like trying to get thunder forged plates working with an IKP).
Gonna hold until at least the forged lows hit (they are coming)...be cool to see a forged IKP low. For now I'm bacak on forged mindys with a hollow slappy pin, shittier GC and a few grams heavier but it'll do for now. Kinda off regular slappies now, they're amazing, but I can really feel the height diff stepping on them or regular (even forged indys). Apparently my muscle memory still prefers thos only thunder 149ers ;)
Regular Slappys are 0.4mm taller than forged Indys.
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And (?) the Forged Mid Indy, mindys, are 50.5mm tall, slappy lows 0.5 lower at 50mm.
This is a mid Indy to slappy low comparison, not regular vs forged (I noted I dislike the height of what you mentioned and favor the forged Mindy).
That is all.
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Has anyone run the IKPs for a while and found them to be successful at not loosening like I’ve heard Indy IKPs and lurpiv 1.0 doing? (This has prob been asked before, I know, I’m sorry)
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Has anyone run the IKPs for a while and found them to be successful at not loosening like I’ve heard Indy IKPs and lurpiv 1.0 doing? (This has prob been asked before, I know, I’m sorry)
So is the final verdict on slappy ikp is that they come loose on their own like most other ikp?
Yea I just asked on the last page, no answer yet.
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Came over from venture cause 6.1s aren’t wide enough. I was worried about losing wheelbase but I guess I had my ventures pretty tight because I’m getting the same measurement axel to axel. After 3 sessions I’m all in. They feel so much better than ventures turning and grinding. I do get some wheelbite but that’s cuz I’m fat. But it’s not the same stop dead wheelbite I get on venture. Just slow down kinda. I got the IKP so I’ll be paying close attention to wether they loosen on they’re own or not.
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Horrible truck. They are too high and the turn is tippy and not smooth. Can't feeble them at all as the just chuck you forward off the board. They also knock around in the pivot cup making a hideous noise. Maybe the lows are better?
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Horrible truck.
Not true.
They are too high
Yeah all those people riding indys at 53.5-55mm or Venture cast at 53.5 must hate their life.
and the turn is tippy and not smooth.
Again, not true/compare to what? More stable than ACE, faster than Indy. The lows turn the same way. Keep steppin'
Can't feeble them at all as the just chuck you forward off the board.
Skill issue, I have zero problems with feebles, awesome grind clearance and move like butta Sounds like you SUCK AT FEEBLES BRUH/GiTGUD. TIP: bend your ankles and point your toes down.
They also knock around in the pivot cup making a hideous noise. Maybe the lows are better?
No, they don't knock around in the pivot, snug like ACEs.
The lows are not for you, Tensor Alloys can be found on the cheap tho?
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I had a chance to buy a set of Slappy trucks the other day, just the normal ones, 8.5 width and have had half a dozen sessions on them now.
As others had said, top bushing takes a beating, so swapped out top washers, now back on originals after the bushings have worn in, as well as trimming up all the bits that were coming out.
The bushings sure did firm up a lot from the first session, to the second and third - didn't expect that quite so much, so even put a thin flat washer on the front for a session just to see and it brought them back to very carvy, which was nice.
The main thing I wanted to check was the kingpin height, which is only 33 mm from the baseplate, which is the most interesting thing to me. Indy, Thunder and Venture all have kingpins that stick up about 35 mm, with Ace sticking up between 37 on Classics to 38 mm on AF1 trucks. In a world where even a few mm counts for a lot, a difference of 5 mm in kingpin height is pretty wild to me. I am used to angle grinding down my Indy kingpins and using low top bushings, so having something like that as stock was good.
Overall they skate really well and I am happy to have them, even though I will still skate Indy on pretty much everything, as well as having boards with Thunder, Venture, Ace just to have a mix up every so often.
Definitely a well made and good feeling truck to me.
Slappy bushings:
Top 9 mm
Bottom 13 mm
Total with stock washers 25.5 mm
* Given this thread is already up to page 18, this is probably not at all new info, but the kingpin heights alone were the most interesting thing to me, compared to the other brands of trucks.
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It's even better with the IKP versions...currently on the lows and they're great, same turn (with way less wheelbite still and I've been riding 54mm), best grind and amazing grind clearance even without the IKP; haven't had any OCD or desire to move back to royals; Like the pop alot, like forged thunder territory.
Smart to go the ACE route and adjust the baseplate (all my hangers work!) and not fuck it up like indy with the mindy. Hopefully other truck co.s take a page out and work on grind clearance (and not just IKP) shorter pins and slightly lower tops is all you need, just be mindful of bushing duro.
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Does anyone know if the hanger on the lows is the same as the regular hollows?
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Does anyone know if the hanger on the lows is the same as the regular hollows?
All slappy hangars are interchangeable. The difference between standard and lows is the baseplate.
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Slappy 95a bushings are the truth.
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Does anyone have the Slappy lights with conventional kingpin?
Has anyone compared the turn/wheelbite to Indy stage XI and stage IV? And Ace AF-1?
And what is the weight like compared to the other guys lighter trucks?
I guess I just want to try them out and the holidays are just around the corner.
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Does anyone have the Slappy lights with conventional kingpin?
Has anyone compared the turn/wheelbite to Indy stage XI and stage IV? And Ace AF-1?
And what is the weight like compared to the other guys lighter trucks?
I guess I just want to try them out and the holidays are just around the corner.
I only have the one set of regular everything, but the turn on them is great, exactly what I needed when skating things I usually skate like my mini ramp and other normal skateparks. Even took them out to do some laps round a carpark and had no issues with them. I did make small wheel wells on that board so I could turn deeper, but that is pretty much the same on most boards I ride now anyway with 54+ sized wheels.
Overall these were much the same for weight, so I am guessing the lights are going to be a bit easier if you are weight conscious - I would say comparable to others as well.
Just my thoughts anyway.
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Does anyone have the Slappy lights with conventional kingpin?
Has anyone compared the turn/wheelbite to Indy stage XI and stage IV? And Ace AF-1?
And what is the weight like compared to the other guys lighter trucks?
I guess I just want to try them out and the holidays are just around the corner.
I only have the one set of regular everything, but the turn on them is great, exactly what I needed when skating things I usually skate like my mini ramp and other normal skateparks. Even took them out to do some laps round a carpark and had no issues with them. I did make small wheel wells on that board so I could turn deeper, but that is pretty much the same on most boards I ride now anyway with 54+ sized wheels.
Overall these were much the same for weight, so I am guessing the lights are going to be a bit easier if you are weight conscious - I would say comparable to others as well.
Just my thoughts anyway.
Comparing stats from slappytrucks.com and nhsskatedirect.com, seems like slappys are on average 7 grams lighter than a forged hollow on 8.5” and 8.75” and probable the same on 9” vs 9.125” comparatively.
So I kind is answered that myself.
I gotta ride 56/55mm without risers, and I’m wondering whether they’ll do that. I mean I could, but I dislike them.
I’ve tried my current board (AH Huffer) with 159/169 and 151 stage 4. And the way the geometry works on the stg 4, the wheebite mostly doesn’t pitch me, but feels more like controlled braking. I’ve heard the same to be true about AF-1s, but being lower obviously only to a certain degree.
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anyone skate the slappy lows?
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I have a pair being delivered tomorrow. I can’t wait to try them out. I have been using Ace lows lately.
anyone skate the slappy lows?
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What’s this about needing to replace the top washer ?
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On some of the older slappy trucks, the top washer wasn’t big enough. This would cause the top bushing to mushroom over the washer. I used Indy top washers
and the problem was solved.
What’s this about needing to replace the top washer ?
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anyone skate the slappy lows?
Been on them since they dropped.
Obvioulsy lower (and you can notice it) as I was coming of regular slappys.
Grind (best), Grind clearance (best), turn/pop just like the regulars. There is more wheelbite than a taller slappy but less wheelbite than the ACE lows. Running the 95a slappy bushings with zero complaints.
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any pics? @Xen
those sound interesting
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any pics? @Xen
those sound interesting
Sure, I can take some, but they look just like slappys? :P
sums it up::
https://youtu.be/x_C4SWOB8EQ?si=hP-5KF4j6fHUjtfw
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On some of the older slappy trucks, the top washer wasn’t big enough. This would cause the top bushing to mushroom over the washer. I used Indy top washers
and the problem was solved.
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What’s this about needing to replace the top washer ?
Oh ok so by the time I get them it probably won’t be a thing
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any pics? @Xen
those sound interesting
Sure, I can take some, but they look just like slappys? :P
sums it up::
https://youtu.be/x_C4SWOB8EQ?si=hP-5KF4j6fHUjtfw
oh they look hot
might have to frankenstein a 9.0 low
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any pics? @Xen
those sound interesting
Sure, I can take some, but they look just like slappys? :P
sums it up::
https://youtu.be/x_C4SWOB8EQ?si=hP-5KF4j6fHUjtfw
might have to frankenstein a 9.0 low
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any pics? @Xen
those sound interesting
Sure, I can take some, but they look just like slappys? :P
sums it up::
https://youtu.be/x_C4SWOB8EQ?si=hP-5KF4j6fHUjtfw
might have to frankenstein a 9.0 low
At 50.5mm it puts them in Thunder forged territory pop-wise but without the wheelbite and just as bit heavier. Stock bushings were too soft, hard bushings were too hard (but super stable and still turned but felt more like a 2-stage turn), the 95a slappys in these are perfect.
Like ACE you can swap whatever hanger yout have onto the low plates; I have yet to put my 8.75" hangers on, need the ride board.
(https://i.ibb.co/44w31dh/PXL-20241216-014506299.jpg) (https://ibb.co/44w31dh)
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Just copped the lows. Currently skating thunder lights. Anyone know the wheelbase on these? And how do they turn?
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Just copped the lows. Currently skating thunder lights. Anyone know the wheelbase on these? And how do they turn?
https://www.instagram.com/p/DACA5dUJiNy/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
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Thanks G
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That chart is bs. This is more based on reality.
Ace Classic +2.75"
Ace AF1 +3.0"
Indy Standard +3.0“
Indy Forged +3.125“
Lurpiv +3.125”
Royals +3.125”
Slappy +3.125
Thunder cast +3.125”
Thunder forged +3.25"
Venture cast +3.2”
Venture forged +3.4”
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That chart is bs. This is more based on reality.
Ace Classic +2.75"
Ace AF1 +3.0"
Indy Standard +3.0“
Indy Forged +3.125“
Lurpiv +3.125”
Royals +3.125”
Slappy +3.125
Thunder cast +3.125”
Thunder forged +3.25"
Venture cast +3.2”
Venture forged +3.4”
Damn. So my thunders wouldn't feel to different?
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depends. slappys kinda dawdle a bit at the top of the turn, and then articulate back like an ace around the pinch (minimizes wheelbite). it feels flat when youre just twitching on top, whereas a thunder feels carvy up top (if im remembering correctly. and theyre a little taller than the regular thunders too
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I feel ya. More so talking about the pop feel. Figured i would get the same pinch and turn as an indy.
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How are the Slappy stock bushings? Does getting Slappys result in instant bushing madness?
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How are the Slappy stock bushings? Does getting Slappys result in instant bushing madness?
Standard Bushing are nice, they don't need break in from my personal experience
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Here is a photo of the bottom of the Low baseplate , hopefully you can see what I mean - either way tho- should def be able to put a hex head in …
(https://i.ibb.co/S0PZTxP/IMG-2441.jpg) (https://ibb.co/S0PZTxP)
Cool, thanks! The cavity doesn't look deep enough to not have the nut dig into board (like trying to get thunder forged plates working with an IKP).
Gonna hold until at least the forged lows hit (they are coming)...be cool to see a forged IKP low. For now I'm bacak on forged mindys with a hollow slappy pin, shittier GC and a few grams heavier but it'll do for now. Kinda off regular slappies now, they're amazing, but I can really feel the height diff stepping on them or regular (even forged indys). Apparently my muscle memory still prefers thos only thunder 149ers ;)
Yo - old sub-convo here but last night I knocked out the kingpin on my Low baseplate and even tho I personally am not doing IKP , I did throw the nut in the baseplate to make sure it would sit flush in that hex recess, without contacting the board - and it does . I have some photos if ya wanna see , just say the word
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Here is a photo of the bottom of the Low baseplate , hopefully you can see what I mean - either way tho- should def be able to put a hex head in …
(https://i.ibb.co/S0PZTxP/IMG-2441.jpg) (https://ibb.co/S0PZTxP)
Cool, thanks! The cavity doesn't look deep enough to not have the nut dig into board (like trying to get thunder forged plates working with an IKP).
Gonna hold until at least the forged lows hit (they are coming)...be cool to see a forged IKP low. For now I'm bacak on forged mindys with a hollow slappy pin, shittier GC and a few grams heavier but it'll do for now. Kinda off regular slappies now, they're amazing, but I can really feel the height diff stepping on them or regular (even forged indys). Apparently my muscle memory still prefers thos only thunder 149ers ;)
Yo - old sub-convo here but last night I knocked out the kingpin on my Low baseplate and even tho I personally am not doing IKP , I did throw the nut in the baseplate to make sure it would sit flush in that hex recess, without contacting the board - and it does . I have some photos if ya wanna see , just say the word
“the word.”
As well as “please & thank you.”
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Here is a photo of the bottom of the Low baseplate , hopefully you can see what I mean - either way tho- should def be able to put a hex head in …
(https://i.ibb.co/S0PZTxP/IMG-2441.jpg) (https://ibb.co/S0PZTxP)
Cool, thanks! The cavity doesn't look deep enough to not have the nut dig into board (like trying to get thunder forged plates working with an IKP).
Gonna hold until at least the forged lows hit (they are coming)...be cool to see a forged IKP low. For now I'm bacak on forged mindys with a hollow slappy pin, shittier GC and a few grams heavier but it'll do for now. Kinda off regular slappies now, they're amazing, but I can really feel the height diff stepping on them or regular (even forged indys). Apparently my muscle memory still prefers thos only thunder 149ers ;)
Yo - old sub-convo here but last night I knocked out the kingpin on my Low baseplate and even tho I personally am not doing IKP , I did throw the nut in the baseplate to make sure it would sit flush in that hex recess, without contacting the board - and it does . I have some photos if ya wanna see , just say the word
As well as “please & thank you.”
here ya go --let me know if these photos are too small, I gotta figure out/remember how best to add photos here ...
(https://i.ibb.co/h1ScZB0/IMG-3556.jpg) (https://ibb.co/h1ScZB0)(https://i.ibb.co/LhNjjL1/IMG-3558.jpg) (https://ibb.co/LhNjjL1)(https://i.ibb.co/sqxfR5J/IMG-3559.jpg) (https://ibb.co/sqxfR5J)(https://i.ibb.co/5MKhK3B/IMG-3560.jpg) (https://ibb.co/5MKhK3B)
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That chart is bs. This is more based on reality.
Ace Classic +2.75"
Ace AF1 +3.0"
Indy Standard +3.0“
Indy Forged +3.125“
Lurpiv +3.125”
Royals +3.125”
Slappy +3.125
Thunder cast +3.125”
Thunder forged +3.25"
Venture cast +3.2”
Venture forged +3.4”
Damn. So my thunders wouldn't feel to different?
Slappys are also 1mm higher and have different style of bushing (Thunders use 2 barrel style, where Slappy uses the classic Cylinder on the bottom, barrel on top). Thunders weigh ~25g less (381g vs 357g on a 8.25" axle truck)
Thunders feel like they hardly turn to me when they are brand new, but I think Slappys are known to turn quite well out the gate.
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That chart is bs. This is more based on reality.
Ace Classic +2.75"
Ace AF1 +3.0"
Indy Standard +3.0“
Indy Forged +3.125“
Lurpiv +3.125”
Royals +3.125”
Slappy +3.125
Thunder cast +3.125”
Thunder forged +3.25"
Venture cast +3.2”
Venture forged +3.4”
Also, not to pollute with even more conflicting info, haha.. but I've done a shitload of measuring myself on my setups, I can tell you that the difference between Ace AF1 and Slappy ST1 is actually 0.25" ..
this is from measuring both sides , axle-to axle, on the same board, as well as comparing two set ups side by side (flipping them each over to get both sides compared etc):
a PS Stix full shape 8.5/ 14.25wb/ Slappy ST1 is dead to nuts same effective wb as a PS Stix full shape 8.5/ 14.5wb / Ace Af1 ...
AND .. I've never seen anyone but myself mention this , and Slappy doesn't advertise it, but the Slappy Lows, from my measuring have a very slightly shorter effective wheelbase (1/16" per truck , so 1/8" on a set up) than the ST1's . Do with that what ya will..
and this is nerdy as fuck but I have used that to "micro-tune" (I feel like a dipshit even writing that, but whatever) my set ups .. I actually am currently running an ST1 hollow in the front and a Low in the rear with a Slappy Slab 4mm riser (to equal the front truck height of 54mm).
And yes Ive lost my mind but I get the sense im not totally alone up in this bish :)
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That chart is bs. This is more based on reality.
Ace Classic +2.75"
Ace AF1 +3.0"
Indy Standard +3.0“
Indy Forged +3.125“
Lurpiv +3.125”
Royals +3.125”
Slappy +3.125
Thunder cast +3.125”
Thunder forged +3.25"
Venture cast +3.2”
Venture forged +3.4”
Also, not to pollute with even more conflicting info, haha.. but I've done a shitload of measuring myself on my setups, I can tell you that the difference between Ace AF1 and Slappy ST1 is actually 0.25" ..
this is from measuring both sides , axle-to axle, on the same board, as well as comparing two set ups side by side (flipping them each over to get both sides compared etc):
a PS Stix full shape 8.5/ 14.25wb/ Slappy ST1 is dead to nuts same effective wb as a PS Stix full shape 8.5/ 14.5wb / Ace Af1 ...
AND .. I've never seen anyone but myself mention this , and Slappy doesn't advertise it, but the Slappy Lows, from my measuring have a very slightly shorter effective wheelbase (1/16" per truck , so 1/8" on a set up) than the ST1's . Do with that what ya will..
and this is nerdy as fuck but I have used that to "micro-tune" (I feel like a dipshit even writing that, but whatever) my set ups .. I actually am currently running an ST1 hollow in the front and a Low in the rear with a Slappy Slab 4mm riser (to equal the front truck height of 54mm).
And yes Ive lost my mind but I get the sense im not totally alone up in this bish :)
You could mean 2 things from that statement - either AF1 are +2.875", or Slappy are +3.25"
Or both numbers or wrong...
i kinda doubt that? Everything on this chart seems to line up with what I have noticed in reality but i havent had them all out together either to test all at once (yet...)
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That chart is bs. This is more based on reality.
Ace Classic +2.75"
Ace AF1 +3.0"
Indy Standard +3.0“
Indy Forged +3.125“
Lurpiv +3.125”
Royals +3.125”
Slappy +3.125
Thunder cast +3.125”
Thunder forged +3.25"
Venture cast +3.2”
Venture forged +3.4”
Also, not to pollute with even more conflicting info, haha.. but I've done a shitload of measuring myself on my setups, I can tell you that the difference between Ace AF1 and Slappy ST1 is actually 0.25" ..
this is from measuring both sides , axle-to axle, on the same board, as well as comparing two set ups side by side (flipping them each over to get both sides compared etc):
a PS Stix full shape 8.5/ 14.25wb/ Slappy ST1 is dead to nuts same effective wb as a PS Stix full shape 8.5/ 14.5wb / Ace Af1 ...
AND .. I've never seen anyone but myself mention this , and Slappy doesn't advertise it, but the Slappy Lows, from my measuring have a very slightly shorter effective wheelbase (1/16" per truck , so 1/8" on a set up) than the ST1's . Do with that what ya will..
and this is nerdy as fuck but I have used that to "micro-tune" (I feel like a dipshit even writing that, but whatever) my set ups .. I actually am currently running an ST1 hollow in the front and a Low in the rear with a Slappy Slab 4mm riser (to equal the front truck height of 54mm).
And yes Ive lost my mind but I get the sense im not totally alone up in this bish :)
You could mean 2 things from that statement - either AF1 are +2.875", or Slappy are +3.25"
Or both numbers or wrong...
i kinda doubt that? Everything on this chart seems to line up with what I have noticed in reality but i havent had them all out together either to test all at once (yet...)
Yeah I don't know which stated measurement is wrong tbh, I don't really measure to a set starting distance per se, like this chart, or Paul Schmitt on his doodad.
I just have ridden Ace AF1 for a long time before switching to Slappy, so Ace AF1 is my "zero" of sorts .. I only know how much additional wheelbase ive gained on the Slappys .. if that makes sense.
so yeah just stating that I def have consistently gotten +.25" of wheelbase additionally from ST1's , and +.125" of wheelbase from Slappy Lows (when compared to AF1s) .. so whatevs!
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is 90a the stock bushing hardness? cant seem to find anything about the duro in the search
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is 90a the stock bushing hardness? cant seem to find anything about the duro in the search
On Skatewarehouse the little blurb for the 90a bushings says standard bushing for a controlled turn, the 85 says something about softer.
I also want to say they did 100a 90a and maybe 85a at the initial group of bushings they offered so I’d have to think the 90 are what’s stock.
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I got 4 good sessions on the slappy lows. I pretty sure thunder lights will be my forever truck. But you miss 100% of the shots you don't take. Might as well try another one. To call this a low truck is questionable. Maybe "low"er than the standard slappy. Height is not to far off from my thunder 8"ers. Pop feels similar. A slight retune on timing. I did set up new wheels when bolting the trucks on. So I expected to be hating life for the next month. Pinch feels like a mix between a thunder and indy. I'm not missing and going into noseslide as I often did skating indys. I can't just throw my heel at the ledge and be locked in like a thunder or venture. Turning is...okay. I haven't really thought about it. Not an indy or ace turn. Better than a thunder. Definitely Getting away with more landing sketchy than on thunders. The gimmick is these trucks don't wheelbite. Or atleast the standard height ones. Alright, I don't think I've wheel bit once. 52mm wheels. You get this dead stopping zone when you lean to either side. I ride medium loose trucks. I'll lean all my weight to one side and i'm tipping my board over before the wheels touch the board. No marks on my wheels from hitting my graphic. Or any marks on my board from wheelbiting. Also a BIG huge kudos to the guys desiging this truck for pre greasing the kingpin. Look down at my truck while skating and the fucking grease is oozing out. What other brand does that.
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is 90a the stock bushing hardness? cant seem to find anything about the duro in the search
On Skatewarehouse the little blurb for the 90a bushings says standard bushing for a controlled turn, the 85 says something about softer.
I also want to say they did 100a 90a and maybe 85a at the initial group of bushings they offered so I’d have to think the 90 are what’s stock.
90s are stock
85/95/100 are aftermarkets
95s are def the sweet spot for me at 195lbs, the 100s, like the thunder 100s and the even the krux/indy 96s are just straight up rocks.
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I got 4 good sessions on the slappy lows. I pretty sure thunder lights will be my forever truck. But you miss 100% of the shots you don't take. Might as well try another one. To call this a low truck is questionable. Maybe "low"er than the standard slappy. Height is not to far off from my thunder 8"ers. Pop feels similar. A slight retune on timing. I did set up new wheels when bolting the trucks on. So I expected to be hating life for the next month. Pinch feels like a mix between a thunder and indy. I'm not missing and going into noseslide as I often did skating indys. I can't just throw my heel at the ledge and be locked in like a thunder or venture. Turning is...okay. I haven't really thought about it. Not an indy or ace turn. Better than a thunder. Definitely Getting away with more landing sketchy than on thunders. The gimmick is these trucks don't wheelbite. Or atleast the standard height ones. Alright, I don't think I've wheel bit once. 52mm wheels. You get this dead stopping zone when you lean to either side. I ride medium loose trucks. I'll lean all my weight to one side and i'm tipping my board over before the wheels touch the board. No marks on my wheels from hitting my graphic. Or any marks on my board from wheelbiting. Also a BIG huge kudos to the guys desiging this truck for pre greasing the kingpin. Look down at my truck while skating and the fucking grease is oozing out. What other brand does that.
Nice review. For the Slappy Lows (or maybe any Slappy) do you slide on the baseplate for nose/tailslides, or is it all-wheel like Thunders?
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I got 4 good sessions on the slappy lows. I pretty sure thunder lights will be my forever truck. But you miss 100% of the shots you don't take. Might as well try another one. To call this a low truck is questionable. Maybe "low"er than the standard slappy. Height is not to far off from my thunder 8"ers. Pop feels similar. A slight retune on timing. I did set up new wheels when bolting the trucks on. So I expected to be hating life for the next month. Pinch feels like a mix between a thunder and indy. I'm not missing and going into noseslide as I often did skating indys. I can't just throw my heel at the ledge and be locked in like a thunder or venture. Turning is...okay. I haven't really thought about it. Not an indy or ace turn. Better than a thunder. Definitely Getting away with more landing sketchy than on thunders. The gimmick is these trucks don't wheelbite. Or atleast the standard height ones. Alright, I don't think I've wheel bit once. 52mm wheels. You get this dead stopping zone when you lean to either side. I ride medium loose trucks. I'll lean all my weight to one side and i'm tipping my board over before the wheels touch the board. No marks on my wheels from hitting my graphic. Or any marks on my board from wheelbiting. Also a BIG huge kudos to the guys desiging this truck for pre greasing the kingpin. Look down at my truck while skating and the fucking grease is oozing out. What other brand does that.
Appreciate this review. Been curious about the lows. Wish they'd sell em with a solid axle.
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Nice review. For the Slappy Lows (or maybe any Slappy) do you slide on the baseplate for nose/tailslides, or is it all-wheel like Thunders?
Baseplate. Good amount of wiggle room in all directions. Popping out of front tails to reg and fakie felt really good. Actually getting a good dip and then popping out of em. Feels like more of my tails is on the ledge. I felt this when dropping in a ramp. Put my board down and just putting my foot on the tail I could feel more room.
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I got 4 good sessions on the slappy lows. I pretty sure thunder lights will be my forever truck. But you miss 100% of the shots you don't take. Might as well try another one. To call this a low truck is questionable. Maybe "low"er than the standard slappy. Height is not to far off from my thunder 8"ers. Pop feels similar. A slight retune on timing. I did set up new wheels when bolting the trucks on. So I expected to be hating life for the next month. Pinch feels like a mix between a thunder and indy. I'm not missing and going into noseslide as I often did skating indys. I can't just throw my heel at the ledge and be locked in like a thunder or venture. Turning is...okay. I haven't really thought about it. Not an indy or ace turn. Better than a thunder. Definitely Getting away with more landing sketchy than on thunders. The gimmick is these trucks don't wheelbite. Or atleast the standard height ones. Alright, I don't think I've wheel bit once. 52mm wheels. You get this dead stopping zone when you lean to either side. I ride medium loose trucks. I'll lean all my weight to one side and i'm tipping my board over before the wheels touch the board. No marks on my wheels from hitting my graphic. Or any marks on my board from wheelbiting. Also a BIG huge kudos to the guys desiging this truck for pre greasing the kingpin. Look down at my truck while skating and the fucking grease is oozing out. What other brand does that.
I gotta stay outta these truck threads, seeing shit like this makes me rethink my entire identity, starting with my truck choice
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How are the Slappy stock bushings? Does getting Slappys result in instant bushing madness?
Standard Bushing are nice, they don't need break in from my personal experience
How about weather wise? In my experience Ace don't struggle with weather unlike Indy's. If Slappy's are not affected they might be an alternative.
Waiting for the weather to improve so I can try Lurpivs but the tiny kingpin clearance is already annoying me.
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I got 4 good sessions on the slappy lows. I pretty sure thunder lights will be my forever truck. But you miss 100% of the shots you don't take. Might as well try another one. To call this a low truck is questionable. Maybe "low"er than the standard slappy. Height is not to far off from my thunder 8"ers. Pop feels similar. A slight retune on timing. I did set up new wheels when bolting the trucks on. So I expected to be hating life for the next month. Pinch feels like a mix between a thunder and indy. I'm not missing and going into noseslide as I often did skating indys. I can't just throw my heel at the ledge and be locked in like a thunder or venture. Turning is...okay. I haven't really thought about it. Not an indy or ace turn. Better than a thunder. Definitely Getting away with more landing sketchy than on thunders. The gimmick is these trucks don't wheelbite. Or atleast the standard height ones. Alright, I don't think I've wheel bit once. 52mm wheels. You get this dead stopping zone when you lean to either side. I ride medium loose trucks. I'll lean all my weight to one side and i'm tipping my board over before the wheels touch the board. No marks on my wheels from hitting my graphic. Or any marks on my board from wheelbiting. Also a BIG huge kudos to the guys desiging this truck for pre greasing the kingpin. Look down at my truck while skating and the fucking grease is oozing out. What other brand does that.
I gotta stay outta these truck threads, seeing shit like this makes me rethink my entire identity, starting with my truck choice
The lows are great, truly. @marcusbutler is spot on. The only diff I can feel between these and the regular is the height; lows are timed more like thunder and not wheelbite...to a point. The highs/regs do turn better as being taller you get a bit more room to dive, if you dive on the lows you will wheelbite eventually.
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@xen how do you compare them to the royal ? They are slight lower from what I understand ?
I really like my ultralight that I got after reading your recommendation. I’d just like a bit more turn but I guess the downturn is usually less stability
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@Xen how do you compare them to the royal ? They are slight lower from what I understand ?
I really like my ultralight that I got after reading your recommendation. I’d just like a bit more turn but I guess the downturn is usually less stability
I've two G053s setup (gotta love the 2-for sales), same grip and wheel size: 51/52'ish mm/99a, one with 149 Slappy Lows/slappy 95a bushings the other with 149 IKP royals and ACE 94/hard bushings. I tried regular height IKP plates first and for whatever reason I just prefer the mid/low truck height feel; smaller wheels didn't help the taller plates either.
Slappys are heavier, lower, of course, turn more, grind better (subjective), better grind clearance (objective)
Royals are lighter more stable (even the IKP, tho I run hollow hangers), grind fine, pinch better, but have average to worse grind clearance (IKP is better of course).
Wheelbite for each is a wash for me, it still happens, but more so on the Royals.
TL;DR
The problem is, I like how both feel but if you want more turn, specifically that ACE/Indy/ML turn, Slappy lows would be the best bet. Are you still running stock royal bushings? They're turny AF with them.
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@Xen how do you compare them to the royal ? They are slight lower from what I understand ?
I really like my ultralight that I got after reading your recommendation. I’d just like a bit more turn but I guess the downturn is usually less stability
I've two G053s setup (gotta love the 2-for sales), same grip and wheel size: 51/52'ish mm/99a, one with 149 Slappy Lows/slappy 95a bushings the other with 149 IKP royals and ACE 94/hard bushings. I tried regular height IKP plates first and for whatever reason I just prefer the mid/low truck height feel; smaller wheels didn't help the taller plates either.
Slappys are heavier, lower, of course, turn more, grind better (subjective), better grind clearance (objective)
Royals are lighter more stable (even the IKP, tho I run hollow hangers), grind fine, pinch better, but have average to worse grind clearance (IKP is better of course).
Wheelbite for each is a wash for me, it still happens, but more so on the Royals.
TL;DR
The problem is, I like how both feel but if you want more turn, specifically that ACE/Indy/ML turn, Slappy lows would be the best bet. Are you still running stock royal bushings? They're turny AF with them.
Thanks ! Always nice to read trucks reviews / compared from you !
I used ace hard as the original bushing were a bit soft so I had to tighten them quite a bit. But I think I got used to my trucks being too tight (even flushed, I’m 70kg) hence the lack of turn. I guess I should get used to my trucks a bit more loose before swapping to trucks with a nicer turn.
I got the Slappy low + lurpiv out of a very sudden decision so I’ll have to try them at some point ;)
The Slappy low seem to be more or less same height as the royal when putting next to each other, lurpiv are another category ;)
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@Xen how do you compare them to the royal ? They are slight lower from what I understand ?
I really like my ultralight that I got after reading your recommendation. I’d just like a bit more turn but I guess the downturn is usually less stability
I've two G053s setup (gotta love the 2-for sales), same grip and wheel size: 51/52'ish mm/99a, one with 149 Slappy Lows/slappy 95a bushings the other with 149 IKP royals and ACE 94/hard bushings. I tried regular height IKP plates first and for whatever reason I just prefer the mid/low truck height feel; smaller wheels didn't help the taller plates either.
Slappys are heavier, lower, of course, turn more, grind better (subjective), better grind clearance (objective)
Royals are lighter more stable (even the IKP, tho I run hollow hangers), grind fine, pinch better, but have average to worse grind clearance (IKP is better of course).
Wheelbite for each is a wash for me, it still happens, but more so on the Royals.
TL;DR
The problem is, I like how both feel but if you want more turn, specifically that ACE/Indy/ML turn, Slappy lows would be the best bet. Are you still running stock royal bushings? They're turny AF with them.
Thanks ! Always nice to read trucks reviews / compared from you !
I used ace hard as the original bushing were a bit soft so I had to tighten them quite a bit. But I think I got used to my trucks being too tight (even flushed, I’m 70kg) hence the lack of turn. I guess I should get used to my trucks a bit more loose before swapping to trucks with a nicer turn.
I got the Slappy low + lurpiv out of a very sudden decision so I’ll have to try them at some point ;)
The Slappy low seem to be more or less same height as the royal when putting next to each other, lurpiv are another category ;)
Slappy lows are 49.9mm, Royals are 52mm, so there is a decent amount of height difference. 2mm can mean a lot in wheels, but hovering around that 49-52 mm range (ML/Royal/Thunder/venture forged/slappy, it's not so crazy a difference.
I ran the slappy lows with 2mm risers and couldn't tell the difference tbh.
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I compared them to to thunder hollow light , which are supposed to be 52.3. Could one of the measure be wrong? because the Slappy are very slightly taller than thunder. I can’t remember how different were the royal but from what I remember the axles were aligned
I took a pic with the thunder h light
https://ibb.co/Q3TR7BTv
Oh and BTW im sure im way to bad of a skater to notice any of that when skating 😅
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Forged is an mm shorter. So 51 vs 50? One side of the truck could be askew.
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Been running the Slappy lows with 2mm risers (was using the 1/16th ACE soft shock pads but traded up for the hard 2mm slappy ones); it's perfect for me this way (and closer to the forged mindy 50.5mm which really gel'd with). 51.9MM so right there at the Royal/Thunder team height pop sweetspot.
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Taking a beat from acer.
"Skateboarding just got easier! Here is the first look at SLAPPY trucks new inverted hollow kingpin complete with a newly designed lower top bushing. The new inverted hollow kingpin removes all kingpin snags and hang ups traditional kingpins give you and its new design gives you the best grind clearance possible. The new Ultra Low Inverted Hollow Kingpin will be available this summer / July and will come standard on the Inverted Forged Hollow Lights. The new Ultra Low Kingpin is designed and heavily tested by skateboarders for skateboarders complete with longer threads for looser and tighter truck options. The new Ultra Low Inverted Hollow kingpin will also be available separately to upgrade other trucks brands that offer inverted kingpin options. Slappy Trucks the Gold Standard in grind clearance."
(https://i.ibb.co/TMfgd4mV/Screenshot-2025-03-02-181715.png) (https://ibb.co/TMfgd4mV)
Hopfully it doesn't bind, the current ACER Ti pin doesn't work with slappys (it binds)
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Taking a beat from acer.
"Skateboarding just got easier! Here is the first look at SLAPPY trucks new inverted hollow kingpin complete with a newly designed lower top bushing. The new inverted hollow kingpin removes all kingpin snags and hang ups traditional kingpins give you and its new design gives you the best grind clearance possible. The new Ultra Low Inverted Hollow Kingpin will be available this summer / July and will come standard on the Inverted Forged Hollow Lights. The new Ultra Low Kingpin is designed and heavily tested by skateboarders for skateboarders complete with longer threads for looser and tighter truck options. The new Ultra Low Inverted Hollow kingpin will also be available separately to upgrade other trucks brands that offer inverted kingpin options. Slappy Trucks the Gold Standard in grind clearance."
(https://i.ibb.co/TMfgd4mV/Screenshot-2025-03-02-181715.png) (https://ibb.co/TMfgd4mV)
Hopfully it doesn't bind, the current ACER Ti pin doesn't work with slappys (it binds)
i saw that, looks pretty sick. not sure what you bean by it doesnt bind?
I saw comment from very knowledgeable skate nerd Chris Rice "Destroyedwood" on insta:
"Notice how the entire top of the kingpin covers the bushing and there is no need for a washer? That keeps them from backing out. Just like old grind kings."
"the rubber bushing doesn’t let it spin when tight."
a main reason i retire pretty mcuh all my trucks is cause i grind the kingpin down, and then it gets so worn you cant get it off (or rather get it back on again) to replace the beat bushings. i dont mind skating the axle that much. at least, i can have a use for it if its annoying (feels kinda shitty on rails but i could still use them elsewhere)
he mentioned in the post there will be replacement kingpins available for ALL brands of trucks too which sounds fucking rad cause I can get more life out of some of my other trucks that are just cruiser status now
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Taking a beat from acer.
"Skateboarding just got easier! Here is the first look at SLAPPY trucks new inverted hollow kingpin complete with a newly designed lower top bushing. The new inverted hollow kingpin removes all kingpin snags and hang ups traditional kingpins give you and its new design gives you the best grind clearance possible. The new Ultra Low Inverted Hollow Kingpin will be available this summer / July and will come standard on the Inverted Forged Hollow Lights. The new Ultra Low Kingpin is designed and heavily tested by skateboarders for skateboarders complete with longer threads for looser and tighter truck options. The new Ultra Low Inverted Hollow kingpin will also be available separately to upgrade other trucks brands that offer inverted kingpin options. Slappy Trucks the Gold Standard in grind clearance."
(https://i.ibb.co/TMfgd4mV/Screenshot-2025-03-02-181715.png) (https://ibb.co/TMfgd4mV)
Hopfully it doesn't bind, the current ACER Ti pin doesn't work with slappys (it binds)
i saw that, looks pretty sick. not sure what you bean by it doesnt bind?
I saw comment from very knowledgeable skate nerd Chris Rice "Destroyedwood" on insta:
"Notice how the entire top of the kingpin covers the bushing and there is no need for a washer? That keeps them from backing out. Just like old grind kings."
"the rubber bushing doesn’t let it spin when tight."
a main reason i retire pretty mcuh all my trucks is cause i grind the kingpin down, and then it gets so worn you cant get it off (or rather get it back on again) to replace the beat bushings. i dont mind skating the axle that much. at least, i can have a use for it if its annoying (feels kinda shitty on rails but i could still use them elsewhere)
he mentioned in the post there will be replacement kingpins available for ALL brands of trucks too which sounds fucking rad cause I can get more life out of some of my other trucks that are just cruiser status now
Like loose ventures the top washer can bind (against the hanger) when turning, limiting the turn. The ACER Ti pin in the slappys binds against the hanger because the circumference of the round part is too big, it does not, however, bind on Indys (current setup is indy ti forged with the acer TI pin).
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So I few people asked about the IKP a few pages back and didn’t get an answer, and im curious too.
I got an AH horse pill, and decided to grab full 10-inch trucks. I’m a big ACE fan, but decided to try something different.
Just picked up the trucks from my local yesterday, and the shop owner threw in an extra pair of baseplates with the IKP.
So I’m wondering how well the inverted kingpin works. Anyone have any experience?
Also have some GK kingpins I could throw in as well, but I need to check the length.
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So I few people asked about the IKP a few pages back and didn’t get an answer, and im curious too.
I got an AH horse pill, and decided to grab full 10-inch trucks. I’m a big ACE fan, but decided to try something different.
Just picked up the trucks from my local yesterday, and the shop owner threw in an extra pair of baseplates with the IKP.
So I’m wondering how well the inverted kingpin works. Anyone have any experience?
Also have some GK kingpins I could throw in as well, but I need to check the length.
I've had zero issues with the IKP plates regarding any 'common' other brand IKP issues. Their CS is top notch (just DM them on insta ) if you do end up with issues and you will get taken care of 100%.
The launch IKPs shipped with fewer threads on the pins (and soft bushings) and I would 'bottom out' tightening them (had to got to 100a bushings and even then it wasn't tight enough); they now come with more threads on the IKPs and it's not an issue.
Currently running slappy lows with an IKP and the 2mm slappy risers (without the risers even the shorter pin will dig into the deck). Nets 52mm.
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Thank you!
Turns out the other kingpins I have are Krux, and are a hair shorter in overall length, the head is a touch thicker, and the threads are a touch longer. Seems like they might also work, but I’ll run what I have and see how it goes
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Thank you!
Turns out the other kingpins I have are Krux, and are a hair shorter in overall length, the head is a touch thicker, and the threads are a touch longer. Seems like they might also work, but I’ll run what I have and see how it goes
The new krux IKP? So far all the old krux and new indy IKP are swappable with the slappy IKP plates; the only one that doesn;t play well with others that I've tried is the royal pin.
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Currently running slappy lows with an IKP and the 2mm slappy risers (without the risers even the shorter pin will dig into the deck). Nets 52mm.
That 2mm slappy riser is something I need to try. 1/8 seems too much and 1/16 is not enough. Just got Slappy lows and so far I'm really happy with them (1/16 risers). Timing is a bit off, coming from Thunders...
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@alternativeretail Slappy trucks $10 sets
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Yo, does anyone know if the hight of their new hollow lights is any different from ST1 hollows? Cant find it anywhere, but on CCS website 'normal' hollows are stated as 'high', while lights are marked as 'mid' but no exact specs which freaks me out
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Yo, does anyone know if the hight of their new hollow lights is any different from ST1 hollows? Cant find it anywhere, but on CCS website 'normal' hollows are stated as 'high', while lights are marked as 'mid' but no exact specs which freaks me out
Same height 53.9
https://www.slappytrucks.com/pages/specs
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So guess I'll continue bother y'all with odd Slappy questions.
CCS send me inverted hollow lights instead of normal kingpin ones by their mistake and I can't stand inverted kingpins and returning them will make me lose about $20 total on shipping at the end. Does anyone know if standard hollow kingpins will fit and hold there if I buy some and hammer out an inverted one? Seems cheaper and way more time effective than all that returning and sending stuff back and forth bullshit but idk if truck construction allows it
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So guess I'll continue bother y'all with odd Slappy questions.
CCS send me inverted hollow lights instead of normal kingpin ones by their mistake and I can't stand inverted kingpins and returning them will make me lose about $20 total on shipping at the end. Does anyone know if standard hollow kingpins will fit and hold there if I buy some and hammer out an inverted one? Seems cheaper and way more time effective than all that returning and sending stuff back and forth bullshit but idk if truck construction allows it
Yes it’s possible to take out the nut on inverted Slappy trucks and put a regular kingpin in. It might be a bit wiggly but it will work. If the wiggle bothers you you can always try to use some jb weld or something other metal epoxy to hold it in place.
Other inverted trucks with a shaftnut (ie: Indy mids)but wouldn’t work though.
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So guess I'll continue bother y'all with odd Slappy questions.
CCS send me inverted hollow lights instead of normal kingpin ones by their mistake and I can't stand inverted kingpins and returning them will make me lose about $20 total on shipping at the end. Does anyone know if standard hollow kingpins will fit and hold there if I buy some and hammer out an inverted one? Seems cheaper and way more time effective than all that returning and sending stuff back and forth bullshit but idk if truck construction allows it
If they sent you the wrong trucks by mistake, why would it cost you anything to return them and get a full refund? They will take care of it if you contact them.
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So guess I'll continue bother y'all with odd Slappy questions.
CCS send me inverted hollow lights instead of normal kingpin ones by their mistake and I can't stand inverted kingpins and returning them will make me lose about $20 total on shipping at the end. Does anyone know if standard hollow kingpins will fit and hold there if I buy some and hammer out an inverted one? Seems cheaper and way more time effective than all that returning and sending stuff back and forth bullshit but idk if truck construction allows it
If they sent you the wrong trucks by mistake, why would it cost you anything to return them and get a full refund? They will take care of it if you contact them.
I had CCS send me the wrong shoes twice. Both times they replaced them at no cost. The last time the shoe I bought was a clearance shoe and was out of stock and they offered to send me any colorway of the same shoe.
Maybe you just got a new guy.
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So guess I'll continue bother y'all with odd Slappy questions.
CCS send me inverted hollow lights instead of normal kingpin ones by their mistake and I can't stand inverted kingpins and returning them will make me lose about $20 total on shipping at the end. Does anyone know if standard hollow kingpins will fit and hold there if I buy some and hammer out an inverted one? Seems cheaper and way more time effective than all that returning and sending stuff back and forth bullshit but idk if truck construction allows it
If they sent you the wrong trucks by mistake, why would it cost you anything to return them and get a full refund? They will take care of it if you contact them.
I had CCS send me the wrong shoes twice. Both times they replaced them at no cost. The last time the shoe I bought was a clearance shoe and was out of stock and they offered to send me any colorway of the same shoe.
Maybe you just got a new guy.
I ordered a couple decks from CCS maybe 6-8 months ago. They sent one that was wrong. They just told me to keep it and sent the correct one out. I'd definitely get in touch with them.
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Yes it’s possible to take out the nut on inverted Slappy trucks and put a regular kingpin in. It might be a bit wiggly but it will work. If the wiggle bothers you you can always try to use some jb weld or something other metal epoxy to hold it in place.
Thanks for advice, will keep it in mind! Definitely not what I'd like to do after spending smth around $70 on trucks though.
Btw, I've got in touch with CCS immediately and yeah they reply fast but communication doesn't go that smooth for now, so was just looking forward for back-up options just in case. Hope we'll figure it out without the need to do all these DIY manipulations tho.
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I’ve been skating slappy trucks about once a week for a month and I feel like they don’t grind as well as Thunder. Am I crazy?
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I’ve been skating slappy trucks about once a week for a month and I feel like they don’t grind as well as Thunder. Am I crazy?
I find the opposite true. It's the thunder pinch and 'nimbleness' that can't be replicated (my fear for the T2s..."just another Indy" without the thunder pinch or the quick twitch).
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Thanks for advice, will keep it in mind! Definitely not what I'd like to do after spending smth around $70 on trucks though.
Btw, I've got in touch with CCS immediately and yeah they reply fast but communication doesn't go that smooth for now, so was just looking forward for back-up options just in case. Hope we'll figure it out without the need to do all these DIY manipulations tho.
Update on this whole deal to make everyone involved justice: we figured it out with CCS and they agreed to return it w/o any shipping expenses from my side needed, but while it was still uncertain I messaged Slappy account on IG asking if I can just simply replace inverted kingpins for regular ones explaining whole situation (before I posted same question here) and in response Sinclair just sent me whole regular hollow baseplates without being involved or having to do nothing with this conflict caused by mistake on CCS website at all.
Just got them from my mailbox and haven't grinded yet 'cause I live way too far from US and it took forever to get 'em here, but guess I won't wanna go back to Indy after this level of loyalty to their supporters/buyers from Slappy haha. Huge shout out to Sinclair and the other guy Daniel from Slappy office who made it possible, these guys are the best!!!
Will post an update on how they feel after 15yrs mostly on Indys later
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I've had a few back and and forths with those dudes and they are super responsive and backup their product (as good as NHS/DLX so far).
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Got the replacement bushings in 90a. Big fan of them. My trucks are very responsive and stable.
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Good god. Between this and the new Aces, kingpins are set to disappear completely by 2027
https://www.instagram.com/p/DMDHAqMO4WR/?img_index=4&igsh=MXZvYTR4NXU5NGUxaA==
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I'm currently riding Indy 159 hollows on my main setup but and am looking to downsize the trucks to 8.5". I've ridden most trucks and the stability along with the turn of Indy's is where I've ended up. Actually I've ended up on Indys a few times after riding various other trucks. I'm thinking of switching it up and trying Slappy 8.5" hollows. For people who have ridden both, are the Slappys really as stable on center an an Indy?
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I'm currently riding Indy 159 hollows on my main setup but and am looking to downsize the trucks to 8.5". I've ridden most trucks and the stability along with the turn of Indy's is where I've ended up. Actually I've ended up on Indys a few times after riding various other trucks. I'm thinking of switching it up and trying Slappy 8.5" hollows. For people who have ridden both, are the Slappys really as stable on center an an Indy?
i just went through the same experience. i had a main set up with 159 indy hollows and a curb set up with the slappy 8.75 hollows. same 54mm wheels. same deck. my curb set up always felt taller even though slappys are 1mm lower than indy hollows. i also felt more center and stable on my indys. is it because iv clocked in more hours on my indys as it was the main setup i skate the most? maybe... but ultimately i decided to go to 149 indy hollow on my main set up instead of Slappys. I like Slappys for the turn and lower chance of wheelbite but I feel like for me slappys are better on my curb set up and are better suited for that type of skating
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Slappy lows with GK IKP, fits perfectly on low plates (I ended up with a loose KP so knocked them out).
(https://i.ibb.co/GfWjkdwc/PXL-20250716-053704754.jpg) (https://ibb.co/GfWjkdwc)
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Can anyone that has ridden the standard slappys and Indy forged comment on how the wheelbase and pinch compares between the two?
Slappy's are the only new truck I would consider trying these days, but if the wheelbase is shorter and the pinch is worse I would probably just stick to my Indys.
The "less wheel bite" marketing on Slappy's make me inclined to think they might not pinch as well, but then I've heard others say they enjoy the pinch on them.
It's all subject to personal preference I know, but I'm curious to know what people who have ridden both think.
Thanks in advance !
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Slappy lows with GK IKP, fits perfectly on low plates (I ended up with a loose KP so knocked them out).
(https://i.ibb.co/GfWjkdwc/PXL-20250716-053704754.jpg) (https://ibb.co/GfWjkdwc)
Looks good!
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Can anyone that has ridden the standard slappys and Indy forged comment on how the wheelbase and pinch compares between the two?
Slappy's are the only new truck I would consider trying these days, but if the wheelbase is shorter and the pinch is worse I would probably just stick to my Indys.
The "less wheel bite" marketing on Slappy's make me inclined to think they might not pinch as well, but then I've heard others say they enjoy the pinch on them.
It's all subject to personal preference I know, but I'm curious to know what people who have ridden both think.
Thanks in advance !
I have both, usually the 149s / 8.5 options and I found the Slappy to be way more prone to wheelbite from new than Indy, so they did seem to turn a whole lot more, or at least the wheel touched the deck a whole lot more, but after the bushings firmed up a bit, they were fairly normal, so quite comparable and everything works on them well enough. If that equates to more pinch, then go with it. I usually run my trucks medium on the back / loose on the front, so others have said.
Wheelbase felt comfortable, so going by the usual chart, as well as the marketing blurb shortest to longest wheelbase, I would put them right in the middle of Ace, Indy, Slappy, Thunder, Venture, even if one of their things / someone said otherwise.
Kingpin clearance was better on the Slappy - truck height comparable to Indy forged, but the Indy kingpin is 35 mm tall, same as Thunder and Venture, but the Slappy kingpin is only 33 mm tall, so two extra mm of clearance right there, even on the standard / regular kingpin truck. I did notice it.
Others have mentioned the top washer cuts into the top bushing fairly significantly at first, which did happen a bit, but I sanded the top bushing a little on the grip tape and both still work fine, maybe more so now they have firmed up and broken in nicely, but I was considering swapping out the top washer, which I know others have done in the past.
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Can anyone that has ridden the standard slappys and Indy forged comment on how the wheelbase and pinch compares between the two?
Slappy's are the only new truck I would consider trying these days, but if the wheelbase is shorter and the pinch is worse I would probably just stick to my Indys.
The "less wheel bite" marketing on Slappy's make me inclined to think they might not pinch as well, but then I've heard others say they enjoy the pinch on them.
It's all subject to personal preference I know, but I'm curious to know what people who have ridden both think.
Thanks in advance !
I have both, usually the 149s / 8.5 options and I found the Slappy to be way more prone to wheelbite from new than Indy, so they did seem to turn a whole lot more, or at least the wheel touched the deck a whole lot more, but after the bushings firmed up a bit, they were fairly normal, so quite comparable and everything works on them well enough. If that equates to more pinch, then go with it. I usually run my trucks medium on the back / loose on the front, so others have said.
Wheelbase felt comfortable, so going by the usual chart, as well as the marketing blurb shortest to longest wheelbase, I would put them right in the middle of Ace, Indy, Slappy, Thunder, Venture, even if one of their things / someone said otherwise.
Kingpin clearance was better on the Slappy - truck height comparable to Indy forged, but the Indy kingpin is 35 mm tall, same as Thunder and Venture, but the Slappy kingpin is only 33 mm tall, so two extra mm of clearance right there, even on the standard / regular kingpin truck. I did notice it.
Others have mentioned the top washer cuts into the top bushing fairly significantly at first, which did happen a bit, but I sanded the top bushing a little on the grip tape and both still work fine, maybe more so now they have firmed up and broken in nicely, but I was considering swapping out the top washer, which I know others have done in the past.
I think that is about it.
Thanks man!
Ive seen their wheelbase chart, but I think they're referencing cast Indys. The wb on forged Indys seems to be debatable. I know we had talked about this in the truck wheelbase thread.
I'll likely try Slappy's at some point though Im sure
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Ordered a set in 9.5” with a set of 95a bushings. I Really liked my Ace 77s size just not the twitchyness, hope these are more stable.
Usually ride Indy 169s but like the added width of a 9.5”
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These are the 90a replacement bushings I put on not long ago. I forgot to change the stock washer and 15 mins later they started the shred the sides.
(https://i.ibb.co/BVcpBX89/20250803-102808.jpg) (https://ibb.co/BVcpBX89)
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These are the 90a replacement bushings I put on not long ago. I forgot to change the stock washer and 15 mins later they started the shred the sides.
(https://i.ibb.co/BVcpBX89/20250803-102808.jpg) (https://ibb.co/BVcpBX89)
Mine did this a bit, so I sanded the sides of the top bushings down a little on the grip tape to smooth them out, but any which way, at least the outside edge issues didn't seem to change the overall performance of the top bushings.
I know they might look a little funny and I have had people replace bushings for less in the past, but generally I feel like if anything it is shaving off the excess and leaves the majority of the bushing intact, so if anything they might get a touch more loose, which I needed anyway.
This is what I tend to do to my bushings anyway, more so in the front, to make them a little more loose, but it works and I can get the kingpin nut down lower if needed and it doesn't cut into the bushing at all with any washers I use.
Sure it might seem a little extreme to some people, but it works for me and ensures that I have more turn and more clearance, especially in the front as I need that more, with a more solid back truck usually.
(https://i.ibb.co/FkP4jdnc/Bushing-modifications-01.jpg) (https://ibb.co/SDLw9ZJH)
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I feel like all newer stock top washers shred bushings.
I've been using these two from an old pair of ace classics or maybe Indys for so long because they don't do this.
It's been so long I don't even remember what they're from. Small and slightly rounded, not completely cupped
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besides ventures, the slappy standard hi's seem to be the most kingpin clearance of all trucks on the current market even without an inverted kingpin. It looks like you could be close to hitting axle on these and that would be the starting point where you'd finally start scraping the kingpin, no? these are the only trucks I haven't tried and although I'm still not keen on the way they look like an ace classics department store clone with a cheesy name/logo, I guess function over fashion. going from ace/stage 4's to lurpivs and then to slappies, will these be a quick and deep enough turn if I throw in some ace medium bushings?
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Are the pig bushings and slappy bushings the exact same?
I would think they are since tum yeto but anyone got insider info that would say otherwise?
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besides ventures, the slappy standard hi's seem to be the most kingpin clearance of all trucks on the current market even without an inverted kingpin. It looks like you could be close to hitting axle on these and that would be the starting point where you'd finally start scraping the kingpin, no?
Correct...tho I think ACE's IKP is in the lead until Slappy drops their ultra low IKP [at the end of] this month.
these are the only trucks I haven't tried and although I'm still not keen on the way they look like an ace classics department store clone with a cheesy name/logo, I guess function over fashion. going from ace/stage 4's to lurpivs and then to slappies, will these be a quick and deep enough turn if I throw in some ace medium bushings?
If you can ride wheels with a cartoon flamehead logo from the 90s or some shit call 'lurpiv' (derp) you can ride a truck that looks like ACEs and is called slappy...If you can't and the look and name are that big of a deal, just pass them by (trust me when I say the look and name will not make an impact on your pinch or flip tricks); If you can handle it, yes they will be quick and deep enough, stock - no need for ACE bushings (which are taller btw) - just know they sit right in between Indy and ACE (faster turn intial turn than Indy, more stable that ACE, grind better than both). If they're good enough for Cordano, they're good enough for you.
All truck names are pretty lame but Thunder and Venture get a pass.
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besides ventures, the slappy standard hi's seem to be the most kingpin clearance of all trucks on the current market even without an inverted kingpin. It looks like you could be close to hitting axle on these and that would be the starting point where you'd finally start scraping the kingpin, no?
Correct...tho I think ACE's IKP is in the lead until Slappy drops their ultra low IKP [at the end of] this month.
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these are the only trucks I haven't tried and although I'm still not keen on the way they look like an ace classics department store clone with a cheesy name/logo, I guess function over fashion. going from ace/stage 4's to lurpivs and then to slappies, will these be a quick and deep enough turn if I throw in some ace medium bushings?
If you can ride wheels with a cartoon flamehead logo from the 90s or some shit call 'lurpiv' (derp) you can ride a truck that looks like ACEs and is called slappy...If you can't and the look and name are that big of a deal, just pass them by (trust me when I say the look and name will not make an impact on your pinch or flip tricks); If you can handle it, yes they will be quick and deep enough, stock - no need for ACE bushings (which are taller btw) - just know they sit right in between Indy and ACE (faster turn intial turn than Indy, more stable that ACE, grind better than both). If they're good enough for Cordano, they're good enough for you.
All truck names are pretty lame but Thunder and Venture get a pass.
Mike Sinclair is that you?
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besides ventures, the slappy standard hi's seem to be the most kingpin clearance of all trucks on the current market even without an inverted kingpin. It looks like you could be close to hitting axle on these and that would be the starting point where you'd finally start scraping the kingpin, no?
Correct...tho I think ACE's IKP is in the lead until Slappy drops their ultra low IKP [at the end of] this month.
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these are the only trucks I haven't tried and although I'm still not keen on the way they look like an ace classics department store clone with a cheesy name/logo, I guess function over fashion. going from ace/stage 4's to lurpivs and then to slappies, will these be a quick and deep enough turn if I throw in some ace medium bushings?
If you can ride wheels with a cartoon flamehead logo from the 90s or some shit call 'lurpiv' (derp) you can ride a truck that looks like ACEs and is called slappy...If you can't and the look and name are that big of a deal, just pass them by (trust me when I say the look and name will not make an impact on your pinch or flip tricks); If you can handle it, yes they will be quick and deep enough, stock - no need for ACE bushings (which are taller btw) - just know they sit right in between Indy and ACE (faster turn intial turn than Indy, more stable that ACE, grind better than both). If they're good enough for Cordano, they're good enough for you.
All truck names are pretty lame but Thunder and Venture get a pass.
Mike Sinclair is that you?
Mike Xenclair all along?
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Are the pig bushings and slappy bushings the exact same?
I would think they are since tum yeto but anyone got insider info that would say otherwise?
I haven't seen both at the same time to compare, but I seem to recall Pig bushings were a little taller (maybe 1 mm so not much really), whereas Slappy bushings, especially the top, is not quite as tall as normal bushings.
That said, they could now be bringing the Pig bushings in line with Slappy as they almost look the same from some shops like this one:
https://super-shop.com/i330793-pig-soft-bushings-81a-white
Slappy
9 mm top
13 mm bottom
Industry average is about 10 mm, some less, some more, for the top bushings when I did a big chart of them all.
Venture and Thunder 9.5 tops, Indy and Krux 10.5 tops, Ace both 12 tops, etc.
* Slappy to me is more in the start of the low top territory, although there are a lot more "low top" bushings out now, especially with the inverted trucks, which specialise in lower tops to give more clearance.
** Nowhere really has any good pics of Pig bushings either, but this is a fairly generic pic they have on some sites:
(https://switchandsignalskatepark.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/original-31.jpeg)
Slappy bushings:
(https://www.slamcity.com/cdn/shop/files/slappy-trucks-white-bushings_70cc2000-e369-40b7-a118-ecfde4aeb9f8.jpg)
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Slappy
9 mm top
13 mm bottom
Industry average is about 10 mm, some less, some more, for the top bushings when I did a big chart of them all.
Venture and Thunder 9.5 tops, Indy and Krux 10.5 tops, Ace both 12 tops, etc.
I was in the belief that Slappy tops are the same as Venture, ie. 9.5mm?
Anyhow, half a mil is pretty much nothing, so it's not a biggie, if not so.
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In my brief time with Slappy I found them to be great overall but no "magical" qualities in any specific direction: turn, pinch, or stability. Great product, but for me personally if I am deviating from my tried and true I really want something that pushes one quality specifically for what I'm doing.
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Slappy
9 mm top
13 mm bottom
Industry average is about 10 mm, some less, some more, for the top bushings when I did a big chart of them all.
Venture and Thunder 9.5 tops, Indy and Krux 10.5 tops, Ace both 12 tops, etc.
I was in the belief that Slappy tops are the same as Venture, ie. 9.5mm?
Anyhow, half a mil is pretty much nothing, so it's not a biggie, if not so.
For sure!
Measurements are always somewhat subjective - maybe if I had fresh unused aftermarket bushings, they might not have been compressed that .5 mm from being in trucks, but who knows.
Sometimes there are almost too many variables there, but I don't usually see that many of the "other brands" products, in the same way I see a lot of DLX, NHS and similar product lines.
I used to get to see a lot more of everything when I would travel all over AU and go into every skate shop I could find on my way, but that is long gone now.
* Also it seems like no one ever really posts any info about the heights of bushings either, besides people on here, so I am yet to find any shop sites that have that sort of info.
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I was riding slappy IKP's for like 3 months and thought i was just getting old and losing tricks, but low and behold 1 month on a fresh set of Independents and I'm landing everything damn near first try and feel WAY more comfortable on my board.
Can't even give these old slappys away because no one at the park even wants them.
It was worth a try, I noticed some benefits, but it looks like I'm not the type either.
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besides ventures, the slappy standard hi's seem to be the most kingpin clearance of all trucks on the current market even without an inverted kingpin. It looks like you could be close to hitting axle on these and that would be the starting point where you'd finally start scraping the kingpin, no?
Correct...tho I think ACE's IKP is in the lead until Slappy drops their ultra low IKP [at the end of] this month.
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these are the only trucks I haven't tried and although I'm still not keen on the way they look like an ace classics department store clone with a cheesy name/logo, I guess function over fashion. going from ace/stage 4's to lurpivs and then to slappies, will these be a quick and deep enough turn if I throw in some ace medium bushings?
If you can ride wheels with a cartoon flamehead logo from the 90s or some shit call 'lurpiv' (derp) you can ride a truck that looks like ACEs and is called slappy...If you can't and the look and name are that big of a deal, just pass them by (trust me when I say the look and name will not make an impact on your pinch or flip tricks); If you can handle it, yes they will be quick and deep enough, stock - no need for ACE bushings (which are taller btw) - just know they sit right in between Indy and ACE (faster turn intial turn than Indy, more stable that ACE, grind better than both). If they're good enough for Cordano, they're good enough for you.
All truck names are pretty lame but Thunder and Venture get a pass.
Mike Sinclair is that you?
Mike Xenclair all along?
Nope, just a rando that doesn't let the name, color or logo sway me in buying or avoiding product.In my brief time with Slappy I found them to be great overall but no "magical" qualities in any specific direction: turn, pinch, or stability. Great product, but for me personally if I am deviating from my tried and true I really want something that pushes one quality specifically for what I'm doing.
Like royal for the Thunder/Venture camp, Slappy is the same for the ACE/Indy camp. Hybrid of both, GC and less wheelbite really are better tho. Aside from that, they're 'just trucks' - been on the AF1 IKP and went back to a board with SLappys that I really enjoyed as far as setup and turn...I felt restricted/felt like I was riding tight trucks....might as well have been ventures at that point.
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Slappy
9 mm top
13 mm bottom
Industry average is about 10 mm, some less, some more, for the top bushings when I did a big chart of them all.
Venture and Thunder 9.5 tops, Indy and Krux 10.5 tops, Ace both 12 tops, etc.
I was in the belief that Slappy tops are the same as Venture, ie. 9.5mm?
Anyhow, half a mil is pretty much nothing, so it's not a biggie, if not so.
For sure!
Measurements are always somewhat subjective - maybe if I had fresh unused aftermarket bushings, they might not have been compressed that .5 mm from being in trucks, but who knows.
Well, yes, measuring bushings should of course always be done for unused bushings.
Anyway, as said, half a mil ain't remarkable.
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It's not just the name and Sinclair did a pretty bad job building the brand image. It was cool at first that he had a lot of unknowns, but it looks odd that he can't get a single b level pro. He then gets Cordano, who is great, but also one of the corniest dudes in skating. Say what you want about Monster or Fury but they had peak Heath and Arto at least. No kid in middle America is going to be asking for the Cordano truck or inspired by some rando no namer. He then went the YouTuber route and put more effort selling into Zumiez than normal shops and it's not an attractive company to skaters or shops.z
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And we come to my one of my most hated parts about consumerism.
You can’t just have a great product that works well, ticks most boxes, you also have to have a fucking ‘image’ that in all reality, has little to do with the product.
It’s the polishing of turds. Lipstick on pigs. Nike collabs with ‘core’ brands. It’s the most unredeemable, superficial bullshit that we are supposed to move on from after High school. But we still so desperately want to believe that Baker/Antihero/Spitfire/Independent actually mean something, that we didn’t tattoo our bodies with their logos, or pay them money for the privilege of giving them free advertising on our clothes.
But it is almost always completely empty and frivolous, and should be the last fucking thing we consider when choosing equipment to dance around on concrete with.
But ‘branding’ is so all-consuming, so ever-existent in our lives straight from birth, we take this Potempkin culture seriously.
If you like the was a board pops, jeans fit, wheels skrrrt, and trucks turn, by all means get them. But try not to take the marketing too seriously, for fucks sakes. It’s mostly dancing for your coins, don’t give it too much of your consideration.
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So it's been a couple months on Slappys after riding mostly Indys through 20 yrs of skating, and I love the change coming from old 159 forged titanium Indys (which were fantastic trucks btw). Back truck starts getting a bit of groove even tho it's not really there yet.
Better grind+clearance, less wheelbite and they look pretty cool imo. Turn is slightly less sharp maybe, but I ride pretty loose trucks so didn't notice any discomfort, they feel loose as needed but more controlled. All tricks work pretty well and I like them more than any other truck I've tried so far.
Running 8.75 hollows / standard kingpin nut / customized with newer super light forged baseplate & 85a top bushings with stock bottom ones (both stock were a bit not loose enough though comfortable — no break in time is true, both soft were too shaky for my taste so combining 'em worked perfectly)
Currently on 8.75 Fixer board w/ 14.5 wb and OJ hardlines 101a 56mm. Trucks worked well on longer wb boards as well.
Highly recommend!
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Just came across a review for the ultra low IKPs
https://youtu.be/RXhSi2_tYeQ
I’ve been hesitant to try Slappy (or any new trucks at this point), but ngl these look pretty solid
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Slappy
9 mm top
13 mm bottom
Industry average is about 10 mm, some less, some more, for the top bushings when I did a big chart of them all.
Venture and Thunder 9.5 tops, Indy and Krux 10.5 tops, Ace both 12 tops, etc.
I was in the belief that Slappy tops are the same as Venture, ie. 9.5mm?
Anyhow, half a mil is pretty much nothing, so it's not a biggie, if not so.
For sure!
Measurements are always somewhat subjective - maybe if I had fresh unused aftermarket bushings, they might not have been compressed that .5 mm from being in trucks, but who knows.
Well, yes, measuring bushings should of course always be done for unused bushings.
Anyway, as said, half a mil ain't remarkable.
But do you think they share the same formula? I tried the pig bushings before slappy came out and I loved them tried a pair of slappys and the bushing do feel similar but softer
I guess I’m just all madness cause I didn’t groove with how soft the stock were and swapped them out and lost the stock bushings and thought eh I’ll just throw my pig bushings in they’re probably the same
I guess spec wise not but formula is the question for me
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Anyone know what duro bushings come with the 13" trucks?
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Anyone know what duro bushings come with the 13" trucks?
All their stock bushings are 90 duro now aren't they?
I thought they said that on their site or reply when someone was asking on their posts, but at least now they have all duro options in aftermarket stock.
Just went back to their site for a browse and they really do have everything on there, which is nice.
https://www.slappytrucks.com/
Bushings:
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0673/2709/9171/files/2025_SPRING_1_SIDEWALK_CATALOGS_Page_12_395ca06f-b48f-4371-87b7-520c955cb863.jpg?v=1742500875&width=1000)
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Ok, so maybe a bit of a kook question, but I've got recurring truck madness and like to try new stuff every now and then just for the fun of it: for a dude that enjoys cast Indys and cast Ventures the most (been switching between the two for the past some years now, mostly based on deck wheelbase), how would Slappys feel?
I know, personal preference etc., but if there's the slightest chance of any "objective" prediction, I'd be most obliged.
For what it's worth, I feel like my pop is at its best with the aforementioned trucks. And the Venture turn has never been a problem for me. I like my trucks on the tighter side.
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I love Indy's, Ventures I never liked the grind or turn but pop is fine. Slappy are a perfectly rideable truck that do everything fairly well as documented in this thread. 54 vs 55mm is barely different and the wheelbase was close enough, but to me personally the way that Indy pop was light but "solid" wasn't the same with Slappy and I am so used to the Indy turn I always preferred it by a small margin. Grind is nice and I didn't find them any more or less stable. The low options seem cool if that's your thing but I don't fret over 53-55mm height.
I travel a ton for work and I want to be able to buy my truck in a normal shop if necessary. Same with replacement parts. Slappy hasn't built up a sizable enough shop network to fulfill this general desire.
Like Ben D said I find them ugly almost like a Temu Ace and I don't need the insane clearance. My top bushing shredded to shit really quick and that was an easy fix. In the end I never felt myself noticing enough of a benefit to pick them over what I already liked.
I think including opinions of marketing and the brand name is tangential at best and really personal, but I don't love that aspect either. The nerd in me respects what Sinclair has done, but of the newer Indy clones I actually like the T2 I have on my travel setup more as they feel like a more distinctly different truck.
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I love Indy's, Ventures I never liked the grind or turn but pop is fine. Slappy are a perfectly rideable truck that do everything fairly well as documented in this thread. 54 vs 55mm is barely different and the wheelbase was close enough, but to me personally the way that Indy pop was light but "solid" wasn't the same with Slappy and I am so used to the Indy turn I always preferred it by a small margin. Grind is nice and I didn't find them any more or less stable. The low options seem cool if that's your thing but I don't fret over 53-55mm height.
I travel a ton for work and I want to be able to buy my truck in a normal shop if necessary. Same with replacement parts. Slappy hasn't built up a sizable enough shop network to fulfill this general desire.
Like Ben D said I find them ugly almost like a Temu Ace and I don't need the insane clearance. My top bushing shredded to shit really quick and that was an easy fix. In the end I never felt myself noticing enough of a benefit to pick them over what I already liked.
I think including opinions of marketing and the brand name is tangential at best and really personal, but I don't love that aspect either. The nerd in me respects what Sinclair has done, but of the newer Indy clones I actually like the T2 I have on my travel setup more as they feel like a more distinctly different truck.
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If anyone is looking we got the new hollow low king pin trucks, just the kingpins, all the bushings and risers too
https://www.35thave.com/module/search_content.htm?form_version=2&showSearchResults=1&search_keyword=Slappy&image.x=0&image.y=0
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Interested in hearing your opinion, Xen.
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Interested in hearing your opinion, Xen.
Just scroll back through this entire thread and you will find plenty of my opinions/thoughts on them, rikki.
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Ok, so maybe a bit of a kook question, but I've got recurring truck madness and like to try new stuff every now and then just for the fun of it: for a dude that enjoys cast Indys and cast Ventures the most (been switching between the two for the past some years now, mostly based on deck wheelbase), how would Slappys feel?
I know, personal preference etc., but if there's the slightest chance of any "objective" prediction, I'd be most obliged.
For what it's worth, I feel like my pop is at its best with the aforementioned trucks. And the Venture turn has never been a problem for me. I like my trucks on the tighter side.
This one set of 8.5 ST1 Classic I have skate really well, were very comfortable right away, as others experienced the top washers caused a little bit of an issue, but I kept them pretty cruisy the first couple of sessions and they broke in nicely and then the washers biting into the top bushing seemed to stop and had no more problems at all.
The bushings firmed up a lot too, but I think almost any truck, or should I say almost any new set of bushings takes a couple of sessions to break in nicely and get to approximately where they will stay for the life of the trucks, for me at least.
All up, the turn on them, the stability, the height and everything else about them including the clearance was pretty good, even though I did customise the bushings not too long ago to give even more clearance / get the kingpin nut down further on mine.
Coming from Indy Standards, I think the change over to these was pretty easy.
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Ok, so maybe a bit of a kook question, but I've got recurring truck madness and like to try new stuff every now and then just for the fun of it: for a dude that enjoys cast Indys and cast Ventures the most (been switching between the two for the past some years now, mostly based on deck wheelbase), how would Slappys feel?
I know, personal preference etc., but if there's the slightest chance of any "objective" prediction, I'd be most obliged.
For what it's worth, I feel like my pop is at its best with the aforementioned trucks. And the Venture turn has never been a problem for me. I like my trucks on the tighter side.
This one set of 8.5 ST1 Classic I have skate really well, were very comfortable right away, as others experienced the top washers caused a little bit of an issue, but I kept them pretty cruisy the first couple of sessions and they broke in nicely and then the washers biting into the top bushing seemed to stop and had no more problems at all.
The bushings firmed up a lot too, but I think almost any truck, or should I say almost any new set of bushings takes a couple of sessions to break in nicely and get to approximately where they will stay for the life of the trucks, for me at least.
All up, the turn on them, the stability, the height and everything else about them including the clearance was pretty good, even though I did customise the bushings not too long ago to give even more clearance / get the kingpin nut down further on mine.
Coming from Indy Standards, I think the change over to these was pretty easy.
Hey thanks. Too bad my locals don't carry them, don't really feel like ordering something I don't really NEED from big pharma. They're something I kinda would like to try at some point, though.
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Hey thanks. Too bad my locals don't carry them, don't really feel like ordering something I don't really NEED from big pharma. They're something I kinda would like to try at some point, though.
I read all about them when they first came out and it was only by chance some time after that, I had an opportunity to get a set in the right size for a good price, otherwise I most likely would not have bought them, but I was curious and so it goes.
Definitely not regretting getting them, so I feel like that is worth more than a mediocre review, if that matters at all.
Any which way, they are an acceptable alternative to Indy or Venture, should the need arise, but I wouldn't go and swap out all my other sets of trucks on my usual boards for those. One setup with them is enough.
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Replaced with GK disruptor kingpin and ace af1 low bushing..monsoon season here, so plenty of time to tinker with parts..
(https://i.ibb.co/TDcgGSh8/IMG-20250922-165020.jpg) (https://ibb.co/TDcgGSh8)
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Replaced with GK disruptor kingpin and ace af1 low bushing..monsoon season here, so plenty of time to tinker with parts..
(https://i.ibb.co/TDcgGSh8/IMG-20250922-165020.jpg) (https://ibb.co/TDcgGSh8)
i tried this on a pair a while back and found that kp was slightly large on one of my trucks. It was weird, I couldn't tighten it all the way but it seemed like the same thread size initially.
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https://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2025/09/15/im-just-lucky-to-be-here-mike-sinclair-talks-slappy-trucks-and-beyond/
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https://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2025/09/15/im-just-lucky-to-be-here-mike-sinclair-talks-slappy-trucks-and-beyond/
Mike always interview pretty well.
Those sparkly pink baseplate are sick.
Whats with that banner image, though, is mike in his shed hand-tuning each truck before it ships?
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https://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2025/09/15/im-just-lucky-to-be-here-mike-sinclair-talks-slappy-trucks-and-beyond/
Mike always interview pretty well.
Those sparkly pink baseplate are sick.
Whats with that banner image, though, is mike in his shed hand-tuning each truck before it ships?
Seems like any other interview with a person in X industry: get a few B roll/action shots of them doing something relative to the interview subject to feature in the article.
Also, Slappy is Mike's brainchild, so I don't doubt he's tinkering in his garag. Whether it's on production models going out or the R&D on samples, we may not know (unless it was mentioned in the interview)
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Enjoying my set of ST1s. Coming from Stage 10s I'm surprised by the amount of clearance on 54mm, reckon I could probably get away with 56 no trouble. I had a question about bushing height; I saw some numbers posted by a few people in this thread but Riptide reckons their standard Indy pack (0.4" RS / 0.5" BS) is the right height. Can anyone confirm the right height?
Also, is the bushing height the same on both baseplate heights? (The 53.9mm 'Standard' and the 49.9mm 'Low', not the confusingly named 'Ultra Low' with the short top bushings and KPs).
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Enjoying my set of ST1s. Coming from Stage 10s I'm surprised by the amount of clearance on 54mm, reckon I could probably get away with 56 no trouble. I had a question about bushing height; I saw some numbers posted by a few people in this thread but Riptide reckons their standard Indy pack (0.4" RS / 0.5" BS) is the right height. Can anyone confirm the right height?
Also, is the bushing height the same on both baseplate heights? (The 53.9mm 'Standard' and the 49.9mm 'Low', not the confusingly named 'Ultra Low' with the short top bushings and KPs).
Can’t help with the bushing height currently.
For the standard and low the bushings are the same, I used a new set of the 100a bushings and they matched what the lows had.
I’ll say that my last set of 100a were way harder than previous 100a Slappy bushings. They were on par with the mini logo hard. Probably get the 95a if I get another set.
On the standards I was running that bones omega 60mm wheel for a while and had no real issue with wheel bite. Doing 54 nano rats on the lows and also no issues.
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Can’t help with the bushing height currently.
For the standard and low the bushings are the same, I used a new set of the 100a bushings and they matched what the lows had.
I’ll say that my last set of 100a were way harder than previous 100a Slappy bushings. They were on par with the mini logo hard. Probably get the 95a if I get another set.
On the standards I was running that bones omega 60mm wheel for a while and had no real issue with wheel bite. Doing 54 nano rats on the lows and also no issues.
Thanks, good to know it's the same across both trucks. I got a set of the slappy 95A as well as a precaution but haven't swapped them in as I was surprised/pleased to find I can't make the 90A set bite, but I haven't started fine tuning the ride yet.
I really liked Riptide bushings for DH, etc, so was interested to try the KranK formula and see how APS compares to the stock slappy urethane in street sizes.
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I set up a freshy with 8.5 Slappy ultra lows. Have been and still am riding ventures on my usual set up. Enjoyed the first session. They're more surfy than the ventures, which I find suits curbs nicely. The pop feels noticeably heavier though and it feels like the tail is much longer on the new setup. Anyone else switched over from venture and found the pop to be heavier?
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I set up a freshy with 8.5 Slappy ultra lows. Have been and still am riding ventures on my usual set up. Enjoyed the first session. They're more surfy than the ventures, which I find suits curbs nicely. The pop feels noticeably heavier though and it feels like the tail is much longer on the new setup. Anyone else switched over from venture and found the pop to be heavier?
Ended up putting Ventures on the freshy. V8 set in both front and back. Running ace low medium bushings with the top bushing height adjusted. They’re loose; wheel bite easily. They’re almost as surfy as the slappy trucks. I prefer them. And the pop now feels fine. Will give the slappies another go later.
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We got re stocked with the kingpin sets and still have the low kingpin trucks in most sizes
https://www.35thave.com/shop/Skate/Hardware/p/Slappy-Trucks-Ultra-Low-Inverted-Hollow-Kingpin-set-of-2-x94806707.htm
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We got re stocked with the kingpin sets and still have the low kingpin trucks in most sizes
https://www.35thave.com/shop/Skate/Hardware/p/Slappy-Trucks-Ultra-Low-Inverted-Hollow-Kingpin-set-of-2-x94806707.htm
Did the Ultra Low Kingpin sets tend to sell out fast the first time you guys got them in, or were there not that many around to start with?
Just curious as it seems when a few shops got them in here in AU they sold out almost instantly and have yet to be restocked. Saw there seemed like lots on your store site now, so at least that should last a little longer this time.
Thanks!
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We did sell out quickly, some people ordered multiple. So I doubled my last order.
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Slappy Low (normal kingpin), what is the stock bushing duro? 95A?
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I've been riding the Ultra low kingpin 8.25 for the past three or so weeks -- i quite like how they skate, which makes me bummed on the few issues I'm having.
1. The kingpins loosen every session (also annoying they don't come with a 5.5mm Allen key. I had one floating around but it's a weird size and I can't imagine a lot of folks can find them so easily.)
2. The top bushings have completely shredded from the kingpin. They skate fine for now but i feel like in another week I'll have to replace them which seems very fast. I skate maybe 3 times a week...
3. Axle slip!!! Fixed by banging it back on the side of the ledge but it was annoying.
Love the turn / grind / everything else, they felt really easy to get used to coming from indys.
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Slappy Low (normal kingpin), what is the stock bushing duro? 95A?
I thought all stock bushings were 90 duro, unless they did something different.
My question would be: Do they make lower bushings for their low or inverted trucks or are they all the same height?
The aftermarket ones do come in the various options, as per their site - 85, 90, 95 and 100 duro options:
https://www.slappytrucks.com/
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0673/2709/9171/files/SLAPPY_FALL2025_CATALOG17.jpg?v=1757077913&width=1000)
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Slappy Low (normal kingpin), what is the stock bushing duro? 95A?
I thought all stock bushings were 90 duro, unless they did something different.
My question would be: Do they make lower bushings for their low or inverted trucks or are they all the same height?
The aftermarket ones do come in the various options, as per their site - 85, 90, 95 and 100 duro options:
https://www.slappytrucks.com/
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0673/2709/9171/files/SLAPPY_FALL2025_CATALOG17.jpg?v=1757077913&width=1000)
Thanks, good to know, I assumed they are 95 since they feel kinda hard/same/good as Thunder 94. But anyways, I need new ones and I'd like to have the same.
I was also thinking of replacing the top washer with Indy one to try to prevent the top bushing shredding so badly. Indys are not so sharp and little bit less "deep". These are my own observations and might not do anything (for the better) :)
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Slappy Low (normal kingpin), what is the stock bushing duro? 95A?
I thought all stock bushings were 90 duro, unless they did something different.
My question would be: Do they make lower bushings for their low or inverted trucks or are they all the same height?
The aftermarket ones do come in the various options, as per their site - 85, 90, 95 and 100 duro options:
https://www.slappytrucks.com/
Thanks, good to know, I assumed they are 95 since they feel kinda hard/same/good as Thunder 94. But anyways, I need new ones and I'd like to have the same.
I was also thinking of replacing the top washer with Indy one to try to prevent the top bushing shredding so badly. Indys are not so sharp and little bit less "deep". These are my own observations and might not do anything (for the better) :)
There has been some interesting info about the stock washer biting into the top bushing, but I actually found it was more the shape of the bushing itself and not so much the washer.
Of course trying a different washer might help, especially if they are tightened down some so the bushing is really pushing hard on the top washer for every turn, or anything where the truck is turned a lot, eg crooks.
Check to see if it is just the outside being sliced off or if the whole bushing is coming apart through the middle too, but I have seen the same thing on Indy bushings, from Indy washers, where the person tightened them down a lot and then every movement pushed the bushing up into the washer, which neatly sliced it up.
Even try the 95 duro option there too, as it might be a better one, but I guess it also depends on how much kingpin you have showing or how much you want them down more, or whether or not the 95 might even be a bit too hard.
On the Slappy trucks I got, I reshaped the top bushing to be a little more conical, so I made the top point thinner, which then helped and the stock washers didn't cut into it any more - just used griptape - held the bushing and ran it down the edge of my board to do it, so nothing more required, but if you catch your finger, it isn't fun.
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Slappy Low (normal kingpin), what is the stock bushing duro? 95A?
I thought all stock bushings were 90 duro, unless they did something different.
My question would be: Do they make lower bushings for their low or inverted trucks or are they all the same height?
The aftermarket ones do come in the various options, as per their site - 85, 90, 95 and 100 duro options:
https://www.slappytrucks.com/
Thanks, good to know, I assumed they are 95 since they feel kinda hard/same/good as Thunder 94. But anyways, I need new ones and I'd like to have the same.
I was also thinking of replacing the top washer with Indy one to try to prevent the top bushing shredding so badly. Indys are not so sharp and little bit less "deep". These are my own observations and might not do anything (for the better) :)
There has been some interesting info about the stock washer biting into the top bushing, but I actually found it was more the shape of the bushing itself and not so much the washer.
Of course trying a different washer might help, especially if they are tightened down some so the bushing is really pushing hard on the top washer for every turn, or anything where the truck is turned a lot, eg crooks.
Check to see if it is just the outside being sliced off or if the whole bushing is coming apart through the middle too, but I have seen the same thing on Indy bushings, from Indy washers, where the person tightened them down a lot and then every movement pushed the bushing up into the washer, which neatly sliced it up.
Even try the 95 duro option there too, as it might be a better one, but I guess it also depends on how much kingpin you have showing or how much you want them down more, or whether or not the 95 might even be a bit too hard.
On the Slappy trucks I got, I reshaped the top bushing to be a little more conical, so I made the top point thinner, which then helped and the stock washers didn't cut into it any more - just used griptape - held the bushing and ran it down the edge of my board to do it, so nothing more required, but if you catch your finger, it isn't fun.
Thanks again! I actually have the trucks as loose as I can (that's why I assumed that they're the 95d, since they feel the same hardness as Thunder 94d, nut flush) and yes, it seems like the top washer is slicing the top bushing. Also, it seems like the top washer is contacting the truck hanger (is this intentional, help prevent wheelbite?).
I'll sand the new ones a bit once I get them. Though, they're not cracked "vertically", only crumpled/shredded all round. Maybe I can salvage these too...
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Thanks again! I actually have the trucks as loose as I can (that's why I assumed that they're the 95d, since they feel the same hardness as Thunder 94d, nut flush) and yes, it seems like the top washer is slicing the top bushing. Also, it seems like the top washer is contacting the truck hanger (is this intentional, help prevent wheelbite?).
I'll sand the new ones a bit once I get them. Though, they're not cracked "vertically", only crumpled/shredded all round. Maybe I can salvage these too...
I had a look back through my own info on the Slappy trucks I set up and still have on a board - some of this info I might have already said (sorry).
Bushings at first were very loose feeling but then firmed up almost too much for me, so I reshaped them both and trimmed the front one down a bit more, just to get kingpin nuts pretty much the same, just flush or round about.
The washers did dig into the hanger leaving marks, but I am used to that on almost every truck brand, maybe more so because I do trim the top bushings down, but Slappy bushings in general are lower in the tops anyway. The only time there would not be any marks on the hanger is if I used the Bones flat washers, or something similar, which also free up the bushings a lot to make them turn more too. It does limit the turn a bit, but I don't think that is intentional - more just a byproduct of lower tops and deeper washers.
I would say definitely get the 90 duro bushings, then reshape as needed to get the kingpin nut on where it should be, not half off, the way I have seen some people set up their boards, mainly because they didn't want to change anything with their bushings, but needed them to be more loose than what the trucks would allow as is.
Also those current bushings might not be what you want to look at, but then they might also work well and keep the trucks on the loose side too, compared to new bushings. I can't think how many times someone has said their bushings are done, which they have often left in the shop for me, which I have then recycled onto another board, more often to make things easier for lighter weight people, or anyone who did want quite loose trucks. Funny what some people would throw out, because they are crumbling, or have been sliced up, or whatever - sure some are done, but others have still worked just fine for the right person or situation.
Even just to keep for spares / back ups / try different techniques to reshape bushings, the old ones would still be worth hanging on to.
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Thought this was a good watch with Sinclair about Slappy, just tune out Andrew Cannon
https://youtu.be/-TGPeD6jF5I?si=DkBy2YxR8EcZEGz6 (https://youtu.be/-TGPeD6jF5I?si=DkBy2YxR8EcZEGz6)
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Thought this was a good watch with Sinclair about Slappy, just tune out Andrew Cannon
https://youtu.be/-TGPeD6jF5I?si=DkBy2YxR8EcZEGz6 (https://youtu.be/-TGPeD6jF5I?si=DkBy2YxR8EcZEGz6)
Sinclair seems awesome to be around.
Id possibly like to try the lows. I am skating venture hi’s, and really like them. Anybody have any remarks in terms of coming to the lows from ventures or thunders?
Thanks pals
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Thought this was a good watch with Sinclair about Slappy, just tune out Andrew Cannon
https://youtu.be/-TGPeD6jF5I?si=DkBy2YxR8EcZEGz6 (https://youtu.be/-TGPeD6jF5I?si=DkBy2YxR8EcZEGz6)
Id possibly like to try the lows. I am skating venture hi’s, and really like them. Anybody have any remarks in terms of coming to the lows from ventures or thunders?
Thanks pals
I just setup a pair of 8.25 lows that replaced my Thunder 147’s on an 8.25 deck. I only got one session on them and they feel pretty good but don’t turn as well as the standard slappy 8.5’s I have on my main setup. Turn is as good as the Thunders and nose and tail slides are much better without the wheel drag.
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Thought this was a good watch with Sinclair about Slappy, just tune out Andrew Cannon
https://youtu.be/-TGPeD6jF5I?si=DkBy2YxR8EcZEGz6 (https://youtu.be/-TGPeD6jF5I?si=DkBy2YxR8EcZEGz6)
Id possibly like to try the lows. I am skating venture hi’s, and really like them. Anybody have any remarks in terms of coming to the lows from ventures or thunders?
Thanks pals
I just setup a pair of 8.25 lows that replaced my Thunder 147’s on an 8.25 deck. I only got one session on them and they feel pretty good but don’t turn as well as the standard slappy 8.5’s I have on my main setup. Turn is as good as the Thunders and nose and tail slides are much better without the wheel drag.
Thanks for that info, I like that there is options for wider trucks with 147 height.
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i like low trucks.
not sure if i can slappy, but glad low trucks are a thing
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Leo Romero has been announced on the team!
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Good morning, Team!
I tried to search but my Search-Fu is weak.
I just installed a set of the ST1 Hollow Lows, my first set of Slappy's, I would assume that the Low is using a shorter roadside bushing, is there a chart or information on the height of the bushing used?
Thanks
T
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Good morning, Team!
I tried to search but my Search-Fu is weak.
I just installed a set of the ST1 Hollow Lows, my first set of Slappy's, I would assume that the Low is using a shorter roadside bushing, is there a chart or information on the height of the bushing used?
Thanks
T
The regular and the low profile trucks are the same bushings, the ultra low kingpin the top bushing is a bit shorter if I remember correct. I just got the ultra low kingpin yesterday and put it in with the normal bushings though and it is working fine. The low profile the lower height is from the baseplate.
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Good morning, Team!
I tried to search but my Search-Fu is weak.
I just installed a set of the ST1 Hollow Lows, my first set of Slappy's, I would assume that the Low is using a shorter roadside bushing, is there a chart or information on the height of the bushing used?
Thanks
T
The regular and the low profile trucks are the same bushings, the ultra low kingpin the top bushing is a bit shorter if I remember correct. I just got the ultra low kingpin yesterday and put it in with the normal bushings though and it is working fine. The low profile the lower height is from the baseplate.
Thank you for the info, I wasn't sure, but in an interview, I thought I remembered Mike saying that most of the parts are interchangeable...but I wanted to check
These are my first set of Slappy's I ride pretty tight, so I have some of the harder bushing on the way, looking forward to getting out on them ASAP, but we just had a round of snow roll in. Been 15 degrees warmer than usual all Winter so far, until now, go figure
T
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So just bought some Slappy ultra low king pins. Realized the stock bushings were way too soft and bought their 100a bushings. All was good until I popped a quick big spin and landed a little towards the toe side and the top bushing blew out. Wondering if anyone has had the same issue? Contacted Slappy to see if there was an issue or if they may different sized bushings for these new trucks but no response. Any help is appreciated. I did throw a washer under the head of the kingpin to continue to skate them but would be nice to not have to do that after paying the money for these trucks. Seems the kingpin head is too small so when you tighten it down the top of the bushing gets pushed out.
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So just bought some Slappy ultra low king pins. Realized the stock bushings were way too soft and bought their 100a bushings. All was good until I popped a quick big spin and landed a little towards the toe side and the top bushing blew out. Wondering if anyone has had the same issue? Contacted Slappy to see if there was an issue or if they may different sized bushings for these new trucks but no response. Any help is appreciated. I did throw a washer under the head of the kingpin to continue to skate them but would be nice to not have to do that after paying the money for these trucks. Seems the kingpin head is too small so when you tighten it down the top of the bushing gets pushed out.
Following this question, I ride pretty tight, 100 boardside / 95 roadside so the information may be helpful to me as well
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So just bought some Slappy ultra low king pins. Realized the stock bushings were way too soft and bought their 100a bushings. All was good until I popped a quick big spin and landed a little towards the toe side and the top bushing blew out. Wondering if anyone has had the same issue? Contacted Slappy to see if there was an issue or if they may different sized bushings for these new trucks but no response. Any help is appreciated. I did throw a washer under the head of the kingpin to continue to skate them but would be nice to not have to do that after paying the money for these trucks. Seems the kingpin head is too small so when you tighten it down the top of the bushing gets pushed out.
Following this question, I ride pretty tight, 100 boardside / 95 roadside so the information may be helpful to me as well
Also following. I have a set of these en route as I type this.
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So just bought some Slappy ultra low king pins. Realized the stock bushings were way too soft and bought their 100a bushings. All was good until I popped a quick big spin and landed a little towards the toe side and the top bushing blew out. Wondering if anyone has had the same issue? Contacted Slappy to see if there was an issue or if they may different sized bushings for these new trucks but no response. Any help is appreciated. I did throw a washer under the head of the kingpin to continue to skate them but would be nice to not have to do that after paying the money for these trucks. Seems the kingpin head is too small so when you tighten it down the top of the bushing gets pushed out.
Following this question, I ride pretty tight, 100 boardside / 95 roadside so the information may be helpful to me as well
Also following. I have a set of these en route as I type this.
They’re Awesome trucks don’t get me wrong. Will do whatever I can to make these things work. Bought some bones hard bushings to see if they work. You’ll see when you get them that the head of the kingpin is beveled eliminating the need for the washer that usually would go there but it’s just a tad too small for the bushings. Waiting on Slappy to respond see if maybe they will be coming out with different bushings to accommodate it or if they need to do a design change. Was watching a few videos on YouTube a lot of the guys that reviewed them like their trucks loose but one guy said he had the same issue where it blew out on him. I’ll post another comment on here if I get an answer back or if I find a different way to make this work. The trucks are top notch first set of trucks where while breaking them in they don’t squeak and quickest to break in. Like I said I threw that washer under the kingpin head and it’s fine but would rather not have to do that.
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So just bought some Slappy ultra low king pins. Realized the stock bushings were way too soft and bought their 100a bushings. All was good until I popped a quick big spin and landed a little towards the toe side and the top bushing blew out. Wondering if anyone has had the same issue? Contacted Slappy to see if there was an issue or if they may different sized bushings for these new trucks but no response. Any help is appreciated. I did throw a washer under the head of the kingpin to continue to skate them but would be nice to not have to do that after paying the money for these trucks. Seems the kingpin head is too small so when you tighten it down the top of the bushing gets pushed out.
Following this question, I ride pretty tight, 100 boardside / 95 roadside so the information may be helpful to me as well
Also following. I have a set of these en route as I type this.
They’re Awesome trucks don’t get me wrong. Will do whatever I can to make these things work. Bought some bones hard bushings to see if they work. You’ll see when you get them that the head of the kingpin is beveled eliminating the need for the washer that usually would go there but it’s just a tad too small for the bushings. Waiting on Slappy to respond see if maybe they will be coming out with different bushings to accommodate it or if they need to do a design change. Was watching a few videos on YouTube a lot of the guys that reviewed them like their trucks loose but one guy said he had the same issue where it blew out on him. I’ll post another comment on here if I get an answer back or if I find a different way to make this work. The trucks are top notch first set of trucks where while breaking them in they don’t squeak and quickest to break in. Like I said I threw that washer under the kingpin head and it’s fine but would rather not have to do that.
I normally ride Indys with 92a Blues, so I also ride a bit toward the "harder" side. I also ordered some of the Slappy 95a and 100a bushing to try putting in the bottom if stock was too loose for me.
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So just bought some Slappy ultra low king pins. Realized the stock bushings were way too soft and bought their 100a bushings. All was good until I popped a quick big spin and landed a little towards the toe side and the top bushing blew out. Wondering if anyone has had the same issue? Contacted Slappy to see if there was an issue or if they may different sized bushings for these new trucks but no response. Any help is appreciated. I did throw a washer under the head of the kingpin to continue to skate them but would be nice to not have to do that after paying the money for these trucks. Seems the kingpin head is too small so when you tighten it down the top of the bushing gets pushed out.
Following this question, I ride pretty tight, 100 boardside / 95 roadside so the information may be helpful to me as well
Also following. I have a set of these en route as I type this.
They’re Awesome trucks don’t get me wrong. Will do whatever I can to make these things work. Bought some bones hard bushings to see if they work. You’ll see when you get them that the head of the kingpin is beveled eliminating the need for the washer that usually would go there but it’s just a tad too small for the bushings. Waiting on Slappy to respond see if maybe they will be coming out with different bushings to accommodate it or if they need to do a design change. Was watching a few videos on YouTube a lot of the guys that reviewed them like their trucks loose but one guy said he had the same issue where it blew out on him. I’ll post another comment on here if I get an answer back or if I find a different way to make this work. The trucks are top notch first set of trucks where while breaking them in they don’t squeak and quickest to break in. Like I said I threw that washer under the kingpin head and it’s fine but would rather not have to do that.
I normally ride Indys with 92a Blues, so I also ride a bit toward the "harder" side. I also ordered some of the Slappy 95a and 100a bushing to try putting in the bottom if stock was too loose for me.
On my non Slappy trucks I am running an ACE Hard/Med combo
Slappy gets the 100/95 combo - have not tested it yet, just set it up last night
And I feel you on the washer thing, I am about to run back through this thread because I think somewhere there is some talk about this issue.
Seems like a washer hack is just that a hack, the ULKP was purpose designed to remove the washer....
I really like the trucks so far, not enough to buy another pair yet, but I have just started riding them and will hold off on making a snap judgment
T
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I had a similar problem with the slappy ultra low kingpin, I used the 95 bushings and they keep sticking to one side or the top bushing pops out. I don’t had a lot of tolerance for truck issues so went back to venture.
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I don’t had a lot of tolerance for truck issues…
100% with you on that. I am a long-term Indy rider*, and when I’ve tried other trucks, if they start requiring a lot of my attention for whatever reason, it’s over.
*Had a set of standard Slappy trucks awhile back, and they were great. Very close to Indy (my gold standard). But, I do a ton ot feeble/smith grinds, so just kind of had to try these ultra low Slappys, for the obvious reasons. Will report back.
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I had a similar problem with the slappy ultra low kingpin, I used the 95 bushings and they keep sticking to one side or the top bushing pops out. I don’t had a lot of tolerance for truck issues so went back to venture.
The V8 might be my next try - Now back to Slappy talk!
In the interview he did a few weeks ago
https://youtu.be/-TGPeD6jF5I?si=AotVrxgjQTFHdL_P
at 24:06 he shows an 8-hole baseplate, I am kinda stoked on that
Seems like a lot of stuff is out of stock all over, hoping in the next qtr the restock has some of the newer stuff he was talking about
T
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Are the ultra low kingpin bushings the same size as the normal ones? I would have assumed they're shorter (top at least).
I have been using the slappy lows and liking them a lot. I need to try that 100/95 combo, 100 is a bit too hard...
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Are the ultra low kingpin bushings the same size as the normal ones? I would have assumed they're shorter (top at least).
I have been using the slappy lows and liking them a lot. I need to try that 100/95 combo, 100 is a bit too hard...
Top is like 1/2 size of regular one. Bottom is the same.
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Are the ultra low kingpin bushings the same size as the normal ones? I would have assumed they're shorter (top at least).
I have been using the slappy lows and liking them a lot. I need to try that 100/95 combo, 100 is a bit too hard...
This^^
And to the best of my knowledge Slappy does not have bushings for the ULKP
Top is like 1/2 size of regular one. Bottom is the same.
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I had a similar problem with the slappy ultra low kingpin, I used the 95 bushings and they keep sticking to one side or the top bushing pops out. I don’t had a lot of tolerance for truck issues so went back to venture.
The V8 might be my next try - Now back to Slappy talk!
In the interview he did a few weeks ago
https://youtu.be/-TGPeD6jF5I?si=AotVrxgjQTFHdL_P
at 24:06 he shows an 8-hole baseplate, I am kinda stoked on that
Seems like a lot of stuff is out of stock all over, hoping in the next qtr the restock has some of the newer stuff he was talking about
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Thanks for bringing that to my attention, re 8 hole baseplates.
Been thinking of trying a DIY 8 hole on my set of Slappy trucks, just to see how they go, but didn't get around to it yet.
I had been drilling out my own for a while now on other brands and even got someone I know to fill them in so I could custom drill the holes exactly where I wanted them on my Indy standards, but more brands bringing out options like this should make things easier for anyone who doesn't want to go to the trouble I have, or mess up their baseplates, also as I have.
I would still like to get my hands on some more undrilled baseplates though, as that would be a lot of fun to drill them out exactly where I want them, usually a little closer to "right in the middle" but not quite. The V8 or other 8 hole baseplate options are at either end, not so much in the middle, which is where I want things.
* Also I know Grind king has the open three hole options, but I am not about to get them.
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they're going to offer bushings for the ultra low kingpins in all hardness later this spring
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they're going to offer bushings for the ultra low kingpins in all hardness later this spring
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they're going to offer bushings for the ultra low kingpins in all hardness later this spring
This is GREAT news!!!
AWESOME!!!
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they're going to offer bushings for the ultra low kingpins in all hardness later this spring
Thanks for that!
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Are the Ultra Lows a pretty dramatic upgrade? I’ve got some pretty fresh Inverted plates but still considering buying a set of the new ones. They look a lot cleaner but performance wise I’m not sure I can justify it at the moment.
Can anyone tell me if they loosen on their own like the regular ones? They might bite the bushing a bit better.
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Are the Ultra Lows a pretty dramatic upgrade? I’ve got some pretty fresh Inverted plates but still considering buying a set of the new ones. They look a lot cleaner but performance wise I’m not sure I can justify it at the moment.
Can anyone tell me if they loosen on their own like the regular ones? They might bite the bushing a bit better.
I have not had any issues with my ULKP I am using them in non Slappy trucks.
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So just bought some Slappy ultra low king pins. Realized the stock bushings were way too soft and bought their 100a bushings. All was good until I popped a quick big spin and landed a little towards the toe side and the top bushing blew out. Wondering if anyone has had the same issue? Contacted Slappy to see if there was an issue or if they may different sized bushings for these new trucks but no response. Any help is appreciated. I did throw a washer under the head of the kingpin to continue to skate them but would be nice to not have to do that after paying the money for these trucks. Seems the kingpin head is too small so when you tighten it down the top of the bushing gets pushed out.
Following this question, I ride pretty tight, 100 boardside / 95 roadside so the information may be helpful to me as well
So I just got the bones hard bushings in that I ordered after I blew out the Slappy ones and they fit perfect and they’re great so far.
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So just bought some Slappy ultra low king pins. Realized the stock bushings were way too soft and bought their 100a bushings. All was good until I popped a quick big spin and landed a little towards the toe side and the top bushing blew out. Wondering if anyone has had the same issue? Contacted Slappy to see if there was an issue or if they may different sized bushings for these new trucks but no response. Any help is appreciated. I did throw a washer under the head of the kingpin to continue to skate them but would be nice to not have to do that after paying the money for these trucks. Seems the kingpin head is too small so when you tighten it down the top of the bushing gets pushed out.
Following this question, I ride pretty tight, 100 boardside / 95 roadside so the information may be helpful to me as well
So I just got the bones hard bushings in that I ordered after I blew out the Slappy ones and they fit perfect and they’re great so far.
On the ultra lows?
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Sorry to derail the bushing talk, but I’ve been enjoying riding the low profile 50mm for 2 weeks and was wondering if those with prebook catalogs know if there is new stock coming out with different colors or solid hangers any time. It seems like the only low profile trucks have black plates and hollow, which is sold out on ther site Also Sinclair was on a YouTube with Andrew cannon and he had lots of trucks with him but no lows and seemed like he didn’t want to talk much about them. I hope they weren’t one run and done.Thx in advance.
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Sorry to derail the bushing talk, but I’ve been enjoying riding the low profile 50mm for 2 weeks and was wondering if those with prebook catalogs know if there is new stock coming out with different colors or solid hangers any time. It seems like the only low profile trucks have black plates and hollow, which is sold out on ther site Also Sinclair was on a YouTube with Andrew cannon and he had lots of trucks with him but no lows and seemed like he didn’t want to talk much about them. I hope they weren’t one run and done.Thx in advance.
I hope it's a staple in their lineup. I got them when they came, but only tried them briefly. Now I've been using them quite some time and I think I want to use them in the future too, really liking them!
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Are the Ultra Lows a pretty dramatic upgrade? I’ve got some pretty fresh Inverted plates but still considering buying a set of the new ones. They look a lot cleaner but performance wise I’m not sure I can justify it at the moment.
Can anyone tell me if they loosen on their own like the regular ones? They might bite the bushing a bit better.
I got a set of the ultra low Slappy inverted kingpins, which I have tried on most inverted baseplates of various brand trucks I have here, which all seem to sit well enough.
With regard to the question if they loosen - that would be down to the baseplate and the kingpin nut, more so than the kingpin itself. No nyloc to hold it in = it is going to loosen off. Nyloc that is not worn out or loctite or something similar = hold in place.
That is my understanding from all the inverted options I have. More constant messing with the inverted kingpin, or swapping out bushings every other day and that nyloc is going to go pretty quickly. Baseplates I have barely touched since setting up are still going fine and haven't moved at all, medium bushings, checked and marked kingpin head, etc.
Of course that is just one take, so that is not to say some might hold better, some worse or whatever, but if your existing kingpins are moving, I don't think trying different ones is going to help a whole lot.
At least here in AU that ultra low kingpin set is pretty cheap compared to getting new trucks, (even more if you get wholesale / shop discount) so that's why I got a set just to see what it was like, more than getting a set of trucks.
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Thinking of grabbing some of the ultra low kingpin baseplates and frankensteining on my stage 4 or Ace classic hangers. Apologies if I missed it, but is there a consensus height on the top bushing that should be used? Sounds like it's smaller than stock indy/thunder/ace. Bottom bushing just a 1:1 for most barrel bushings correct?
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Thinking of grabbing some of the ultra low kingpin baseplates and frankensteining on my stage 4 or Ace classic hangers. Apologies if I missed it, but is there a consensus height on the top bushing that should be used? Sounds like it's smaller than stock indy/thunder/ace. Bottom bushing just a 1:1 for most barrel bushings correct?
A few things on this...
First, I know Ace/Stage 4 has non-standard size bushings. I can't remember if that is in top, bottom, or both bushings. I am sure @Mbrimson88 knows. So, there might be some geometry issues swapping out Ace/Stage 4 bushings (IF you were thinking or doing that).
As to stock Slappy bushings, yes, the bottom bushings are all the same size across all their trucks. The top bushing on the ultra low king pin IS smaller/shorter, but I was actually shocked at little the difference is between it (e.g. ultra low top bushing) and the regular stock top bushings. However, unfortunately, I don't have an answer for you on what best options are other than the stock ultra low shorter top bushing would be.
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Stage 4 bushings are .40 roadside and .55 boardside whereas stage 11 are .40 roadside and .50 boardside
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Thinking of grabbing some of the ultra low kingpin baseplates and frankensteining on my stage 4 or Ace classic hangers. Apologies if I missed it, but is there a consensus height on the top bushing that should be used? Sounds like it's smaller than stock indy/thunder/ace. Bottom bushing just a 1:1 for most barrel bushings correct?
A few things on this...
First, I know Ace/Stage 4 has non-standard size bushings. I can't remember if that is in top, bottom, or both bushings. I am sure @Mbrimson88 knows. So, there might be some geometry issues swapping out Ace/Stage 4 bushings (IF you were thinking or doing that).
As to stock Slappy bushings, yes, the bottom bushings are all the same size across all their trucks. The top bushing on the ultra low king pin IS smaller/shorter, but I was actually shocked at little the difference is between it (e.g. ultra low top bushing) and the regular stock top bushings. However, unfortunately, I don't have an answer for you on what best options are other than the stock ultra low shorter top bushing would be.
I just updated the Bushings thread with a better (current) list, so hopefully that should come up sooner now in searches.
Link here anyway:
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=112631.msg4469351#msg4469351
* Machining top bushings down to about 8 mm is the same as what the "low bushing kits" had on them, which I often use on my trucks and then angle grind the kingpins down. I made sure not so much to just cut any stock ones down, but also cone the tops so any and every washer fits on them well too. Exactly how you go about that is up to you, but sitting them on a kingpin with other bushings under them to bring them up to almost the kingpin height and then running an angle grinder on the side worked really well just recently to lower the tops of two bushings.
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So just bought some Slappy ultra low king pins. Realized the stock bushings were way too soft and bought their 100a bushings. All was good until I popped a quick big spin and landed a little towards the toe side and the top bushing blew out. Wondering if anyone has had the same issue? Contacted Slappy to see if there was an issue or if they may different sized bushings for these new trucks but no response. Any help is appreciated. I did throw a washer under the head of the kingpin to continue to skate them but would be nice to not have to do that after paying the money for these trucks. Seems the kingpin head is too small so when you tighten it down the top of the bushing gets pushed out.
Following this question, I ride pretty tight, 100 boardside / 95 roadside so the information may be helpful to me as well
So I just got the bones hard bushings in that I ordered after I blew out the Slappy ones and they fit perfect and they’re great so far.
On the ultra lows?
Yeah in the ultra lows. May raise the kingpin up slightly but not by much. Everything is good so far though.
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So just bought some Slappy ultra low king pins. Realized the stock bushings were way too soft and bought their 100a bushings. All was good until I popped a quick big spin and landed a little towards the toe side and the top bushing blew out. Wondering if anyone has had the same issue? Contacted Slappy to see if there was an issue or if they may different sized bushings for these new trucks but no response. Any help is appreciated. I did throw a washer under the head of the kingpin to continue to skate them but would be nice to not have to do that after paying the money for these trucks. Seems the kingpin head is too small so when you tighten it down the top of the bushing gets pushed out.
Following this question, I ride pretty tight, 100 boardside / 95 roadside so the information may be helpful to me as well
So I just got the bones hard bushings in that I ordered after I blew out the Slappy ones and they fit perfect and they’re great so far.
On the ultra lows?
Yeah in the ultra lows. May raise the kingpin up slightly but not by much. Everything is good so far though.
The ULKP has extended threads so raising up a bit with a taller bushing should not be an issue
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Appreciate all the info, imaginary gnars to you all.
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So just bought some Slappy ultra low king pins. Realized the stock bushings were way too soft and bought their 100a bushings. All was good until I popped a quick big spin and landed a little towards the toe side and the top bushing blew out. Wondering if anyone has had the same issue? Contacted Slappy to see if there was an issue or if they may different sized bushings for these new trucks but no response. Any help is appreciated. I did throw a washer under the head of the kingpin to continue to skate them but would be nice to not have to do that after paying the money for these trucks. Seems the kingpin head is too small so when you tighten it down the top of the bushing gets pushed out.
Following this question, I ride pretty tight, 100 boardside / 95 roadside so the information may be helpful to me as well
So I just got the bones hard bushings in that I ordered after I blew out the Slappy ones and they fit perfect and they’re great so far.
On the ultra lows?
Yeah in the ultra lows. May raise the kingpin up slightly but not by much. Everything is good so far though.
The ULKP has extended threads so raising up a bit with a taller bushing should not be an issue
Skated all day yesterday In my garage with the bones bushings in the ULKP and no issues at all. Just to test it out may be a bad idea but was purposely landing hard to one side and the other and still no issues at all with loosening or the bushings bulging out. Wish I had used these bones bushings sooner in other trucks these things are great. No break in time either and no issues with the truck getting stuck to one side even when they’re tightened down tight.
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So just bought some Slappy ultra low king pins. Realized the stock bushings were way too soft and bought their 100a bushings. All was good until I popped a quick big spin and landed a little towards the toe side and the top bushing blew out. Wondering if anyone has had the same issue? Contacted Slappy to see if there was an issue or if they may different sized bushings for these new trucks but no response. Any help is appreciated. I did throw a washer under the head of the kingpin to continue to skate them but would be nice to not have to do that after paying the money for these trucks. Seems the kingpin head is too small so when you tighten it down the top of the bushing gets pushed out.
Following this question, I ride pretty tight, 100 boardside / 95 roadside so the information may be helpful to me as well
So I just got the bones hard bushings in that I ordered after I blew out the Slappy ones and they fit perfect and they’re great so far.
On the ultra lows?
Yeah in the ultra lows. May raise the kingpin up slightly but not by much. Everything is good so far though.
The ULKP has extended threads so raising up a bit with a taller bushing should not be an issue
Skated all day yesterday In my garage with the bones bushings in the ULKP and no issues at all. Just to test it out may be a bad idea but was purposely landing hard to one side and the other and still no issues at all with loosening or the bushings bulging out. Wish I had used these bones bushings sooner in other trucks these things are great. No break in time either and no issues with the truck getting stuck to one side even when they’re tightened down tight.
Just a heads-up, Bones bushings are notorious for blowing out after a bit. What happens is the center core of the bushing starts to separate from the outer core. It’s hard to see because the top washer often covers the “tear.” The tell-tale sign is that you find yourself tightening the kingpin nut/bolt a lot, just to keep the same “tightness” on the trucks. Otherwise, they do ride nice.
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So just bought some Slappy ultra low king pins. Realized the stock bushings were way too soft and bought their 100a bushings. All was good until I popped a quick big spin and landed a little towards the toe side and the top bushing blew out. Wondering if anyone has had the same issue? Contacted Slappy to see if there was an issue or if they may different sized bushings for these new trucks but no response. Any help is appreciated. I did throw a washer under the head of the kingpin to continue to skate them but would be nice to not have to do that after paying the money for these trucks. Seems the kingpin head is too small so when you tighten it down the top of the bushing gets pushed out.
Following this question, I ride pretty tight, 100 boardside / 95 roadside so the information may be helpful to me as well
So I just got the bones hard bushings in that I ordered after I blew out the Slappy ones and they fit perfect and they’re great so far.
On the ultra lows?
Yeah in the ultra lows. May raise the kingpin up slightly but not by much. Everything is good so far though.
The ULKP has extended threads so raising up a bit with a taller bushing should not be an issue
Skated all day yesterday In my garage with the bones bushings in the ULKP and no issues at all. Just to test it out may be a bad idea but was purposely landing hard to one side and the other and still no issues at all with loosening or the bushings bulging out. Wish I had used these bones bushings sooner in other trucks these things are great. No break in time either and no issues with the truck getting stuck to one side even when they’re tightened down tight.
Just a heads-up, Bones bushings are notorious for blowing out after a bit. What happens is the center core of the bushing starts to separate from the outer core. It’s hard to see because the top washer often covers the “tear.” The tell-tale sign is that you find yourself tightening the kingpin nut/bolt a lot, just to keep the same “tightness” on the trucks. Otherwise, they do ride nice.
Appreciate that I’ll keep an eye on it. Hope it’ll be alright though. I weigh a heck of a lot more than I did when I was younger so finding things that hold up is crucial 😂 i was 130 pounds when I stopped skateboarding when I joined the military now that I’m 35 and getting back into it at 185 pounds seems things fall apart a bit faster. Not sure if things are just made cheaper today or what but I snapped my
Zoo York board I bought a few months ago just doing a kickflip and the thunder trucks I had the nut stripped the king pin which I have no clue how that happened because it wasn’t
Cross threaded. These Slappy trucks are awesome though really glad I picked them up. Perfect height and seems to give me the perfect wheel base. Will say that with the steep kicks on the alien workshop I just picked up with these trucks I’ll probably pick up a deck that has not so steep kicks and a mellower concave. Any suggestions would be great or I’ll probably post in a diff thread.
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So just bought some Slappy ultra low king pins. Realized the stock bushings were way too soft and bought their 100a bushings. All was good until I popped a quick big spin and landed a little towards the toe side and the top bushing blew out. Wondering if anyone has had the same issue? Contacted Slappy to see if there was an issue or if they may different sized bushings for these new trucks but no response. Any help is appreciated. I did throw a washer under the head of the kingpin to continue to skate them but would be nice to not have to do that after paying the money for these trucks. Seems the kingpin head is too small so when you tighten it down the top of the bushing gets pushed out.
Following this question, I ride pretty tight, 100 boardside / 95 roadside so the information may be helpful to me as well
So I just got the bones hard bushings in that I ordered after I blew out the Slappy ones and they fit perfect and they’re great so far.
On the ultra lows?
Yeah in the ultra lows. May raise the kingpin up slightly but not by much. Everything is good so far though.
The ULKP has extended threads so raising up a bit with a taller bushing should not be an issue
Skated all day yesterday In my garage with the bones bushings in the ULKP and no issues at all. Just to test it out may be a bad idea but was purposely landing hard to one side and the other and still no issues at all with loosening or the bushings bulging out. Wish I had used these bones bushings sooner in other trucks these things are great. No break in time either and no issues with the truck getting stuck to one side even when they’re tightened down tight.
Just a heads-up, Bones bushings are notorious for blowing out after a bit. What happens is the center core of the bushing starts to separate from the outer core. It’s hard to see because the top washer often covers the “tear.” The tell-tale sign is that you find yourself tightening the kingpin nut/bolt a lot, just to keep the same “tightness” on the trucks. Otherwise, they do ride nice.
Appreciate that I’ll keep an eye on it. Hope it’ll be alright though. I weigh a heck of a lot more than I did when I was younger so finding things that hold up is crucial 😂 i was 130 pounds when I stopped skateboarding when I joined the military now that I’m 35 and getting back into it at 185 pounds seems things fall apart a bit faster. Not sure if things are just made cheaper today or what but I snapped my
Zoo York board I bought a few months ago just doing a kickflip and the thunder trucks I had the nut stripped the king pin which I have no clue how that happened because it was
Cross threaded. These Slappy trucks are awesome though really glad I picked them up. Perfect height and seems to give me the perfect wheel base. Will say that with the steep kicks on the alien workshop I just picked up with these trucks I’ll probably pick up a deck that has not so steep kicks and a mellower concave. Any suggestions would be great or I’ll probably post in a diff thread.
DLX decks (real, anti-hero, krooked, There/Unity) have a Roman numeral (I - IV) stamped on the top ply near the front truck holes (they are pressed four at a time). Those numbers correspond to their position in the wood press. “I” is on the top. “IV” is on the bottom. Decks on the top are steeper. Decks on the bottom are flatter. So, look for IV/III decks from DLX (note, that ONLY DLX has this system / markings).
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At the shop we have set them up with Indy, ace, bones and venture bushings and they all worked to a degree.
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So just bought some Slappy ultra low king pins. Realized the stock bushings were way too soft and bought their 100a bushings. All was good until I popped a quick big spin and landed a little towards the toe side and the top bushing blew out. Wondering if anyone has had the same issue? Contacted Slappy to see if there was an issue or if they may different sized bushings for these new trucks but no response. Any help is appreciated. I did throw a washer under the head of the kingpin to continue to skate them but would be nice to not have to do that after paying the money for these trucks. Seems the kingpin head is too small so when you tighten it down the top of the bushing gets pushed out.
Following this question, I ride pretty tight, 100 boardside / 95 roadside so the information may be helpful to me as well
So I just got the bones hard bushings in that I ordered after I blew out the Slappy ones and they fit perfect and they’re great so far.
On the ultra lows?
Yeah in the ultra lows. May raise the kingpin up slightly but not by much. Everything is good so far though.
The ULKP has extended threads so raising up a bit with a taller bushing should not be an issue
Skated all day yesterday In my garage with the bones bushings in the ULKP and no issues at all. Just to test it out may be a bad idea but was purposely landing hard to one side and the other and still no issues at all with loosening or the bushings bulging out. Wish I had used these bones bushings sooner in other trucks these things are great. No break in time either and no issues with the truck getting stuck to one side even when they’re tightened down tight.
Just a heads-up, Bones bushings are notorious for blowing out after a bit. What happens is the center core of the bushing starts to separate from the outer core. It’s hard to see because the top washer often covers the “tear.” The tell-tale sign is that you find yourself tightening the kingpin nut/bolt a lot, just to keep the same “tightness” on the trucks. Otherwise, they do ride nice.
Appreciate that I’ll keep an eye on it. Hope it’ll be alright though. I weigh a heck of a lot more than I did when I was younger so finding things that hold up is crucial 😂 i was 130 pounds when I stopped skateboarding when I joined the military now that I’m 35 and getting back into it at 185 pounds seems things fall apart a bit faster. Not sure if things are just made cheaper today or what but I snapped my
Zoo York board I bought a few months ago just doing a kickflip and the thunder trucks I had the nut stripped the king pin which I have no clue how that happened because it was
Cross threaded. These Slappy trucks are awesome though really glad I picked them up. Perfect height and seems to give me the perfect wheel base. Will say that with the steep kicks on the alien workshop I just picked up with these trucks I’ll probably pick up a deck that has not so steep kicks and a mellower concave. Any suggestions would be great or I’ll probably post in a diff thread.
DLX decks (real, anti-hero, krooked, There/Unity) have a Roman numeral (I - IV) stamped on the top ply near the front truck holes (they are pressed four at a time). Those numbers correspond to their position in the wood press. “I” is on the top. “IV” is on the bottom. Decks on the top are steeper. Decks on the bottom are flatter. So, look for IV/III decks from DLX (note, that ONLY DLX has this system / markings).
Awesome I appreciate that! I was close to picking up a krooked and unsure as to why I didn’t and just reverted back to what I used to skate when I was younger. Have a few gift cards so may pick one up keep it off to the side until I destroy this alien workshop. I know they make the easy rider may try that out.
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Just curious if the bushings still shred in these? I had the st1s last summer and my top bushings was pretty much cut in half right away when I tried how the trucks turn. Kept skating the trucks though and they worked fine. The same happened even with the replacement bushings. The ultra low kp trucks seem intriguing but Im not a fan of hollowed trucks. It seems they sell the new baseplates separately so I could swap the solid hangers on those too.
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Just curious if the bushings still shred in these? I had the st1s last summer and my top bushings was pretty much cut in half right away when I tried how the trucks turn. Kept skating the trucks though and they worked fine. The same happened even with the replacement bushings. The ultra low kp trucks seem intriguing but Im not a fan of hollowed trucks. It seems they sell the new baseplates separately so I could swap the solid hangers on those too.
At some point I got a set of the bushings and they finally came with a top washer that was a bit bigger and did not cut into the bushing so I think that got sorted out. I also got the lows and they were fine how they came, no washer issue. The first set I got definitely had the issue, I ended up using a washer from some mini logo trucks and they solved the issue as they are a flatter shape.
Also have tried out the ultra low kingpins, I just swapped it into the old inverted trucks with the old bushings and have had no issues with the bushings. I wonder if the the bushings that actually come with the ULKP truck has the height taken off the top and that is why people have had a similar issue with those bushings, wider at the top maybe so it can dig in.
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they deleted the original post because the second slide had a zero deck :)
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Sheck daddy on slappy trucks and zero board was on zero people's bingo card.
Jesus knuckle tatt makes this twice as funny.
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This guy is claiming that Slappys have a short Wheelbase like T2 / Ace Classic / Stage 4. he is saying its messing up his skating and hes gonna switch back to Indy forged which imo is almost the exact same truck. i have never had Slappys but can anyone confirm wb is +3.15"? I have been told Slappys have same WB pushout as Indy forged , Thunder Team, Lurpiv - 3.15" or 3-1/8" approx. is this guy fried or am I?
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That dude is as fried as Dowdy and you shouldn't trust a damn thing he says
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ignoring all measurements. I'm skating slappys, and they definitely make WB FEEL shorter. I've been riding the same exact shape pretty consistently for the past 3 years. I took them off the first time, but when giving them a second try (on the same shape) I just powered through the short feeling, and now it's fine. I ain't got the time to be dealing with board madness.
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https://youtu.be/Cvcubzhmj_s
This guy is claiming that Slappys have a short Wheelbase like T2 / Ace Classic / Stage 4. he is saying its messing up his skating and hes gonna switch back to Indy forged which imo is almost the exact same truck. i have never had Slappys but can anyone confirm wb is +3.15"? I have been told Slappys have same WB pushout as Indy forged , Thunder Team, Lurpiv - 3.15" or 3-1/8" approx. is this guy fried or am I?
Slappy posted about it here. They're in between.
https://www.instagram.com/p/DACA5dUJiNy/?img_index=2
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This guy is claiming that Slappys have a short Wheelbase like T2 / Ace Classic / Stage 4. he is saying its messing up his skating and hes gonna switch back to Indy forged which imo is almost the exact same truck. i have never had Slappys but can anyone confirm wb is +3.15"? I have been told Slappys have same WB pushout as Indy forged , Thunder Team, Lurpiv - 3.15" or 3-1/8" approx. is this guy fried or am I?
It does push the wheel base out slightly. I saw an interview where Mike Sinclair said he wanted an in between as far as height and wheel base goes. I just set up my 8.0 deck with my thunders I had laying around instead of my 8.25 with my slappys on it. I do like the slappys but I think I’ll keep the
8.25 with the slappys on it for more of a transition skating board. They are great trucks but for street skating i like a lower truck it was screwing up my timing of the pop and everything was just off. Spencer nuzzi likes an extremely small wheel base from what I seen on his channel and that’s probably why he notices it. I think the height makes more of a difference than that small of a wheel base difference but I could be wrong.
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This guy is claiming that Slappys have a short Wheelbase like T2 / Ace Classic / Stage 4. he is saying its messing up his skating and hes gonna switch back to Indy forged which imo is almost the exact same truck. i have never had Slappys but can anyone confirm wb is +3.15"? I have been told Slappys have same WB pushout as Indy forged , Thunder Team, Lurpiv - 3.15" or 3-1/8" approx. is this guy fried or am I?
Slappy posted about it here. They're in between.
https://www.instagram.com/p/DACA5dUJiNy/?img_index=2
I don't believe Venture Hi and Low are same WB, but its possible they could be.
Venture Hi and Thunders that have Forged Baseplates have a similar pushed out wb of ~3.2". so i'll assume this is their reference point.
If they have measured off a Standard indy stage 11 (+3"), and slappy is +1.25" more pushed out, then my number of 3.125" makes sense, and so does the slightly more pushed out # they are giving for Venture Hi + Thunder Forged.
And then it looks like they have measured AF1 a smidge less than Indy Standard which I always had measured almost the same, and then the t2 and ace classics are like another quarter inch tucked in.
So yeah, TL;DR I was correct and the Slappy site backs it up even lol
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Here is the blog post of those measurements: https://www.slappytrucks.com/blogs/news/professor-schmitts-slappy-trucks-analysis
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Here is the blog post of those measurements: https://www.slappytrucks.com/blogs/news/professor-schmitts-slappy-trucks-analysis
Not sure this is the same "experiment" because in the blog post he references "indy hollows" (im assuming forged plate) and it shows almost right on with slappy as i suspected, only 0.05" difference. in the instagram post, he references "Indy Stage 11" and its more like .125" / 1/8" difference which lines up with what I have noticed IRL as well.
No mention of testing venture lows in that blog post.
"Thunder 145 classics" and theres no such thing as that, you'd think TEAM but trucks that small i would think they are probably a hollow lite and with the measurement he's getting that would line up more with the forged plate (hollow lite) thunders.
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IDK anything about the measurements but I'm really happy with my 9" standard Slappys. Coming from 169s the transition has been pretty seamless.
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I'm thinking of getting a new pair of trucks soon. I've had stage 11 indy's for a while with no real complaints. I always put hard bones bushings in them, skate my trucks on the tighter side. I'm thinking about getting some hollows or titanium just to reduce a bit of weight in my suitcase.
So what's the verdict on slappy's? Worth trying or stick with indys/some other recommendation? One thing I noticed about slappy's is you'd need an allen wrench. For some reason, that seems a bit annoying to me.
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I'm thinking of getting a new pair of trucks soon. I've had stage 11 indy's for a while with no real complaints. I always put hard bones bushings in them, skate my trucks on the tighter side. I'm thinking about getting some hollows or titanium just to reduce a bit of weight in my suitcase.
So what's the verdict on slappy's? Worth trying or stick with indys/some other recommendation? One thing I noticed about slappy's is you'd need an allen wrench. For some reason, that seems a bit annoying to me.
Haven’t seen the height difference of the slappys vs Indy stage 11s but I bought the slappy ULK and I’m sure they’re a great truck for someone but not me. I prefer a low truck and these things are a bit too high through everything off had a hard time timing the pop. I kept them for my 8.25 deck and will just turn that deck into a transition board and cruise around board. Even with the bones hard bushings I put in I still couldn’t get the slappys tight enough for my liking. I’m debating between staying with my thunder hollow lights for my 8.0 deck or going with the Indy mid hollow forged. IMO stick with the Indy’s.
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I'm thinking of getting a new pair of trucks soon. I've had stage 11 indy's for a while with no real complaints. I always put hard bones bushings in them, skate my trucks on the tighter side. I'm thinking about getting some hollows or titanium just to reduce a bit of weight in my suitcase.
So what's the verdict on slappy's? Worth trying or stick with indys/some other recommendation? One thing I noticed about slappy's is you'd need an allen wrench. For some reason, that seems a bit annoying to me.
Haven’t seen the height difference of the slappys vs Indy stage 11s but I bought the slappy ULK and I’m sure they’re a great truck for someone but not me. I prefer a low truck and these things are a bit too high through everything off had a hard time timing the pop. I kept them for my 8.25 deck and will just turn that deck into a transition board and cruise around board. Even with the bones hard bushings I put in I still couldn’t get the slappys tight enough for my liking. I’m debating between staying with my thunder hollow lights for my 8.0 deck or going with the Indy mid hollow forged. IMO stick with the Indy’s.
Slappys are 53.9mm, while Indys are 53.5 (forged baseplates) and 55m (standard baseplates). Slappy Lows are probably similar to Indy mids (without looking the specs up to check) height wise.
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I'm thinking of getting a new pair of trucks soon. I've had stage 11 indy's for a while with no real complaints. I always put hard bones bushings in them, skate my trucks on the tighter side. I'm thinking about getting some hollows or titanium just to reduce a bit of weight in my suitcase.
So what's the verdict on slappy's? Worth trying or stick with indys/some other recommendation? One thing I noticed about slappy's is you'd need an allen wrench. For some reason, that seems a bit annoying to me.
Haven’t seen the height difference of the slappys vs Indy stage 11s but I bought the slappy ULK and I’m sure they’re a great truck for someone but not me. I prefer a low truck and these things are a bit too high through everything off had a hard time timing the pop. I kept them for my 8.25 deck and will just turn that deck into a transition board and cruise around board. Even with the bones hard bushings I put in I still couldn’t get the slappys tight enough for my liking. I’m debating between staying with my thunder hollow lights for my 8.0 deck or going with the Indy mid hollow forged. IMO stick with the Indy’s.
Slappys are 53.9mm, while Indys are 53.5 (forged baseplates) and 55m (standard baseplates). Slappy Lows are probably similar to Indy mids (without looking the specs up to check) height wise.
slappy lows are 50mm and Indy Mid are 52mm so actually pretty decent difference. Same ace Classic. Ace Low and smaller axle Thunder forged plate have Low trucks in the 49-51mm range and Venture goes all the way down to 47-48mm with their lows depending whch plate you get.
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I'm thinking of getting a new pair of trucks soon. I've had stage 11 indy's for a while with no real complaints. I always put hard bones bushings in them, skate my trucks on the tighter side. I'm thinking about getting some hollows or titanium just to reduce a bit of weight in my suitcase.
So what's the verdict on slappy's? Worth trying or stick with indys/some other recommendation? One thing I noticed about slappy's is you'd need an allen wrench. For some reason, that seems a bit annoying to me.
Haven’t seen the height difference of the slappys vs Indy stage 11s but I bought the slappy ULK and I’m sure they’re a great truck for someone but not me. I prefer a low truck and these things are a bit too high through everything off had a hard time timing the pop. I kept them for my 8.25 deck and will just turn that deck into a transition board and cruise around board. Even with the bones hard bushings I put in I still couldn’t get the slappys tight enough for my liking. I’m debating between staying with my thunder hollow lights for my 8.0 deck or going with the Indy mid hollow forged. IMO stick with the Indy’s.
Slappys are 53.9mm, while Indys are 53.5 (forged baseplates) and 55m (standard baseplates). Slappy Lows are probably similar to Indy mids (without looking the specs up to check) height wise.
Indy forged mids are about 50.5 so pretty close
For anyone on Indy trying slappys I’d say they’re about the same. If they feel too loose for you just grab some harder bushings same with Indy’s. I think the slappys have a softer grind tho, like what id imagine ace has.
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I would love to buy individual hangers from Slappy the way Ace lets you: I DM'd the Slappy account and they said that option is coming soon.
Slappy hangers on Ace baseplates feel good. They look good too.
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How's the pop feel and pinch compared to Indy's? Does the lighter truck cancel out the slight WB extension? Is the pinch better, worse, similar?
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Bit the bullet and got some of the 9 inch super low inverted hollow Slappys to try them out. One session in I was reminded that I don't really hang up my kingpin and I'm not a cool guy who does feeble variations and would have been fine with regular kingpins, but oh well. Have a couple weeks on them and still liking them, no issues yet with the kingpin bolt adjusting itself.
Overall the turn is enjoyable, feel pretty comparable to an AF1, not quite as surfy as an Ace Classic or T2. Grind and pinch both feel decent and the weight difference is wild from the Stage IVs I had setup before. Stoked on these, I'll continue to ride them for a while and maybe eventually get to the point where the inverted kingpin is a benefit instead of something I just look at and say "neat".
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Bit the bullet and got some of the 9 inch super low inverted hollow Slappys to try them out. One session in I was reminded that I don't really hang up my kingpin and I'm not a cool guy who does feeble variations and would have been fine with regular kingpins, but oh well. Have a couple weeks on them and still liking them, no issues yet with the kingpin bolt adjusting itself.
Overall the turn is enjoyable, feel pretty comparable to an AF1, not quite as surfy as an Ace Classic or T2. Grind and pinch both feel decent and the weight difference is wild from the Stage IVs I had setup before. Stoked on these, I'll continue to ride them for a while and maybe eventually get to the point where the inverted kingpin is a benefit instead of something I just look at and say "neat".
I was on the IKP hype train for a couple years but now I think they’re 100% a vanity component. Even at their best you’re dealing with shorter bushings which will eventually compress to the point where you’re wheelbiting way too often or getting soggy pop. They’re ideal for a slappy heavy setup but if you’re doing any kind of jumping or flipping just go standard and grind the KP down the way god intended.
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I am curious to see or hear if anyone else has broken the hollow inverted kingpins, especially the ultra low inverted kingpin.
Seen a couple of people post about them with the Slappy kingpin breaking in much the same areas, as per the Thunder hollow inverted kingpins breaking, same as the Ace hollow inverted kingpins breaking too, come to think of it, so I just wonder if the more stress on the inverted kingpins is causing more issues with all hollow options, hence Indy and Thunder seeming to go back to a solid inverted kingpin for the most part.
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How's the pop feel and pinch compared to Indy's? Does the lighter truck cancel out the slight WB extension? Is the pinch better, worse, similar?
For me, the pop feels better (more than likely because of the weight reduction), and the pinch feels similar. But I also ride with shock pads (I'm 200 lbs, and want my boards to last as long as possible), hard bushings, tighter trucks, and 55mm wheels, so my shit might be way off from how you ride yours. Also, regarding the wheelbase, I've been at 14.25" for years now, and I haven't felt a difference between any of the different types of trucks I've bolted (Indys or Slappys, or my Ace/Slappy Frankentrucks) to any of those boards. I could easily be overlooking something in this regard.
I have a friend who rode a similar Ace Baseplate / Slappy Hanger setup with much bigger trucks, and rode them much looser, and he mentioned that he was blowing out bushings every 2-3 sessions.
I hope some of this helps.
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No mention of Torey yet?
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No mention of Torey yet?
No one really gives a shit about him?
If he didn’t have a million followers on IG, he wouldn’t be more than flow. I can’t see him getting a pro truck, but they’ll probably put that stupid Grizzly logo on a set.
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Got it. So, Torey sucks. I'll make a note. Thank You.
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I think Torrey Pudwill being present in skateboarding is holding it back.
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If anything his arms are flinging it forward right?
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Just curious if the bushings still shred in these? I had the st1s last summer and my top bushings was pretty much cut in half right away when I tried how the trucks turn. Kept skating the trucks though and they worked fine. The same happened even with the replacement bushings. The ultra low kp trucks seem intriguing but Im not a fan of hollowed trucks. It seems they sell the new baseplates separately so I could swap the solid hangers on those too.
I’ve a set of ultra lows waiting to set up once I’m finished with my current trucks. Was curious and set them up for week when I switched decks recently and destroyed the top bushings in two sessions.i had some mini logo bushings which seemed to fit okay. They felt okay to skate. Was glad to get back on my Ventures. Though that’s just due to familiarity. I’m sure they’ll be fine once they’re familiar. I found they grabbed on concrete ledges and curbs. Also found the yolk was grabbing on feebles, which is easily sorted with wax. This might sound odd, but I don’t mind feeling my kingpin drag in feebles, I tend to pivot out off it. Found not feeling it a tad disorienting.
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When I had skated these a while back the Indy bushings fixed the shredding. The top is a bit taller so it eats up some threads and the fact it’s taller means it cones up more so it’s not wide enough for the bushings to catch like with the origional slappy top bushing.
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Haven't had any issues with bushings shredding on my slappys. I have the 9",9.25" and 9.5" ST1 standard kingpin versions all with Slappy 100A bushings. honestly was one of the main reasons I switched over from Indy, always had my top bushing shredded no matter if I used the stock or aftermarket washers in Indys.
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The 8 hole version is showing up on Skatewarehouse now. Truck or just base plate. No info for measurements though, Slappy site does have a pic too but couldn’t find additional info there either.
https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Slappy_ST1_Classic_Hollow_8_Hole_Baseplate/descpage-SY8HBP.html
Looking at pics I think they have more space between the holes than the Venture V8s.
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The 8 hole version is showing up on Skatewarehouse now. Truck or just base plate. No info for measurements though, Slappy site does have a pic too but couldn’t find additional info there either.
https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Slappy_ST1_Classic_Hollow_8_Hole_Baseplate/descpage-SY8HBP.html
Looking at pics I think they have more space between the holes than the Venture V8s.
Yes they look like the old six hole baseplates, just with another set of holes drilled at 3/8 from the inside holes as well.
I guess this is good if people want them in a bit more, but then the whole reason bolts were shifted in was to stop them being knocked, grinded or broken off when nose or tail slides became so common, so it would be interesting to see them mounted on a board, to see if the nuts still had clearance or not.
At least now people can get them pre drilled and don't have to do it themselves, which is still the case with Indy and some others, which I have experimented with and drilled out at different lengths.
Any which way I am curious to see and hear more.
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Anybody know if Slappy sells those low profile baseplates separately (not the inverted low)? I haven't seen them... ???
Side note: I tried the normal Slappys (54mm) and the turn was noticeably different. Bushings are the same, so is it just placebo or is the geometry different, not just the height?
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Anybody know if Slappy sells those low profile baseplates separately (not the inverted low)? I haven't seen them... ???
Side note: I tried the normal Slappys (54mm) and the turn was noticeably different. Bushings are the same, so is it just placebo or is the geometry different, not just the height?
I've never seen them separate anywhere. In an interview a bit back he mentioned selling everything separate and doing build your own truck, which is showing on their site but only the standard height options. I've also never seen much of a sale price on the low profiles, I eventually caved and had my local order a set. I am probably set on slappy hangers till the end of times at this point.
Other than the height difference I feel like the turn is the same, but the first time I tried the lows it was very strange being that much lower, I had also ran 60mm wheels on the standards and switched to 54mm on the lows. I also run the 100a bushings with 1 thread showing so I may not be able to notice the difference in turn as much due to that.
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I switched to the low profiles awhile back but briefly had both the highs and lows set-up to compare.
For what it’s worth I think they have a pretty different turn, less quick/snappy/whatever but they still have a good turn for how low they are. It’s also something you get used to pretty quick.
I think the lows provide more stability and I really prefer the pop they give so I’m converted, so long as they keep selling them.
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I switched to the low profiles awhile back but briefly had both the highs and lows set-up to compare.
For what it’s worth I think they have a pretty different turn, less quick/snappy/whatever but they still have a good turn for how low they are. It’s also something you get used to pretty quick.
I think the lows provide more stability and I really prefer the pop they give so I’m converted, so long as they keep selling them.
I ride the 8.5 Low Profile, was my favorite until I got on the Thunder T2. But the Slappy wil be my go-to on decks with a sub 14.25 wheelbase
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Intrigued to try a pair when I can grab a pair on sale, especially the ST1 Inverted Hollow Lights/Ultra Low Kingpin.
Can anyone confirm how much they push out the WB? I'm skeptical of Schmitt's measurements especially on Thunders and Ventures, I've always thought of Indy Standard (cast) baseplate as bang on +3.0" right down the middle with forged +3.125".
Height wise they claim to be 4mm lower than their standards, trucks so 49.9mm? Looks like ultra low just referred to the kingpin, the Hollow Low are the ones which are 4mm shorter, but if someone could confirm height that would be good
And wobbly kingpins especially on IKPs, anyone experience that yet?
Been on Ventures for a long time, ridden Indy forged intermittently, so Slappy might be a big shock to the system.
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Intrigued to try a pair when I can grab a pair on sale, especially the ST1 Inverted Hollow Lights/Ultra Low Kingpin.
Can anyone confirm how much they push out the WB? I'm skeptical of Schmitt's measurements especially on Thunders and Ventures, I've always thought of Indy Standard (cast) baseplate as bang on +3.0" right down the middle with forged +3.125".
Height wise they claim to be 4mm lower than their standards, trucks so 49.9mm? Looks like ultra low just referred to the kingpin, the Hollow Low are the ones which are 4mm shorter, but if someone could confirm height that would be good
And wobbly kingpins especially on IKPs, anyone experience that yet?
Been on Ventures for a long time, ridden Indy forged intermittently, so Slappy might be a big shock to the system.
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I have multiple decks all identical shape and WB. I went from thunder to slappy and tried just to get used to the change, but it didn't pan out. If you do want to go to slappy, I'd recommend getting a a deck to accomedate for the WB chamge. I ended up giving my slappys away.
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I switched to the low profiles awhile back but briefly had both the highs and lows set-up to compare.
For what it’s worth I think they have a pretty different turn, less quick/snappy/whatever but they still have a good turn for how low they are. It’s also something you get used to pretty quick.
I think the lows provide more stability and I really prefer the pop they give so I’m converted, so long as they keep selling them.
I ride the 8.5 Low Profile, was my favorite until I got on the Thunder T2. But the Slappy wil be my go-to on decks with a sub 14.25 wheelbase
Why the t2 over the slappys?
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Pulled the trigger on a pair of almost new Ultra Low Inverted Kingpin 8.5s, for some reason the seller insisted on keeping the bushings. Slappy bushings aren't readily available near where I live, anyone know if the Indy or Ace Low ones are compatible? Or if anyone can measure the height that would be even better.
I've got some very worn down Ace Low Hard ones from an old setup, might go with them to avoid any break in period.
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Pulled the trigger on a pair of almost new Ultra Low Inverted Kingpin 8.5s, for some reason the seller insisted on keeping the bushings. Slappy bushings aren't readily available near where I live, anyone know if the Indy or Ace Low ones are compatible? Or if anyone can measure the height that would be even better.
I've got some very worn down Ace Low Hard ones from an old setup, might go with them to avoid any break in period.
I’ve used Indy in the past and they were pretty close to the same. The ultra low do have different bushing, but I ran them with the normal bushings and it seemed fine
Edit. Found my calipers and I got 13.2mm on bottom bushing and 8.8mm for top, unused stock bushings.
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Pulled the trigger on a pair of almost new Ultra Low Inverted Kingpin 8.5s, for some reason the seller insisted on keeping the bushings. Slappy bushings aren't readily available near where I live, anyone know if the Indy or Ace Low ones are compatible? Or if anyone can measure the height that would be even better.
I've got some very worn down Ace Low Hard ones from an old setup, might go with them to avoid any break in period.
I’ve used Indy in the past and they were pretty close to the same. The ultra low do have different bushing, but I ran them with the normal bushings and it seemed fine
Edit. Found my calipers and I got 13.2mm on bottom bushing and 8.8mm for top, unused stock bushings.
Sweet, thanks for whipping the calipers out!
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Pulled the trigger on a pair of almost new Ultra Low Inverted Kingpin 8.5s, for some reason the seller insisted on keeping the bushings. Slappy bushings aren't readily available near where I live, anyone know if the Indy or Ace Low ones are compatible? Or if anyone can measure the height that would be even better.
I've got some very worn down Ace Low Hard ones from an old setup, might go with them to avoid any break in period.
I’ve used Indy in the past and they were pretty close to the same. The ultra low do have different bushing, but I ran them with the normal bushings and it seemed fine
Edit. Found my calipers and I got 13.2mm on bottom bushing and 8.8mm for top, unused stock bushings.
Sweet, thanks for whipping the calipers out!
That’s interesting. I’ve got a list of different brands’ bushings measurements pulled from post on slap and possibly other sources, it has standard slappy bushings as bottom 13mm and top 9.5mm, so just shy of 1mm lower.
I’ve been on the 8.5 ultra lows for a month. Shredded the top bushing a few sessions in and have tried several different top bushings. Ace inverted (9mm)seem to work best. if you also use the bottom bushings they’re apparently 1mm taller at 14mm. Mind you the replacement bushings look to be readily available online now. An alternative option could be be the venture low bushing kit. Bottom is 13mm and top 8mm.
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Bushing info link here:
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=112631.msg4469351#msg4469351
My regular Slappy trucks had a 9 mm top and 13 mm bottom, at least from the measurements I have here, from the bushings before skating the trucks.
I seem to recall seeing the low with an 8 mm top, but maybe that is just what the other low bushings are from other brands, so it would be good if someone could add in their bushing measurements from the aftermarket box before putting them in trucks.
People have said they all compress down a fair bit, which did seem to be the case with mine as well.
Anyone got the different boxes of bushings and can check measurements of any of them please?
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The regular and the low profile trucks are the same bushings, the ultra low kingpin the top bushing is a bit shorter if I remember correct. I just got the ultra low kingpin yesterday and put it in with the normal bushings though and it is working fine. The low profile the lower height is from the baseplate.
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I switched to the low profiles awhile back but briefly had both the highs and lows set-up to compare.
For what it’s worth I think they have a pretty different turn, less quick/snappy/whatever but they still have a good turn for how low they are. It’s also something you get used to pretty quick.
I think the lows provide more stability and I really prefer the pop they give so I’m converted, so long as they keep selling them.
I ride the 8.5 Low Profile, was my favorite until I got on the Thunder T2. But the Slappy wil be my go-to on decks with a sub 14.25 wheelbase
Why the t2 over the slappys?
My only guess is the WB factor, I hated the T2 Bushings, but I have always liked a shorter WB.
Until I got on the T2s, I was always missing my "pop" on anything taller than s 52mm axel height, and I was very skeptical about the 54mm T2,, but has not been an issue.
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I switched to the low profiles awhile back but briefly had both the highs and lows set-up to compare.
For what it’s worth I think they have a pretty different turn, less quick/snappy/whatever but they still have a good turn for how low they are. It’s also something you get used to pretty quick.
I think the lows provide more stability and I really prefer the pop they give so I’m converted, so long as they keep selling them.
I ride the 8.5 Low Profile, was my favorite until I got on the Thunder T2. But the Slappy wil be my go-to on decks with a sub 14.25 wheelbase
Why the t2 over the slappys?
My only guess is the WB factor, I hated the T2 Bushings, but I have always liked a shorter WB.
Until I got on the T2s, I was always missing my "pop" on anything taller than s 52mm axel height, and I was very skeptical about the 54mm T2,, but has not been an issue.
Crazy I usually have the same issue usually with taller trucks
I can’t say for certain but is it me or do slappys look like a reworked theeve v2 truck
I wonder if slappys and royals have the same wheelbase too since Ben degros in his royal trucks review said the wheelbase is in between an Indy and thunder like what slappy claims
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I switched to the low profiles awhile back but briefly had both the highs and lows set-up to compare.
For what it’s worth I think they have a pretty different turn, less quick/snappy/whatever but they still have a good turn for how low they are. It’s also something you get used to pretty quick.
I think the lows provide more stability and I really prefer the pop they give so I’m converted, so long as they keep selling them.
I ride the 8.5 Low Profile, was my favorite until I got on the Thunder T2. But the Slappy wil be my go-to on decks with a sub 14.25 wheelbase
Why the t2 over the slappys?
My only guess is the WB factor, I hated the T2 Bushings, but I have always liked a shorter WB.
Until I got on the T2s, I was always missing my "pop" on anything taller than s 52mm axel height, and I was very skeptical about the 54mm T2,, but has not been an issue.
Crazy I usually have the same issue usually with taller trucks
I can’t say for certain but is it me or do slappys look like a reworked theeve v2 truck
I wonder if slappys and royals have the same wheelbase too since Ben degros in his royal trucks review said the wheelbase is in between an Indy and thunder like what slappy claims
They do
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I switched to the low profiles awhile back but briefly had both the highs and lows set-up to compare.
For what it’s worth I think they have a pretty different turn, less quick/snappy/whatever but they still have a good turn for how low they are. It’s also something you get used to pretty quick.
I think the lows provide more stability and I really prefer the pop they give so I’m converted, so long as they keep selling them.
I ride the 8.5 Low Profile, was my favorite until I got on the Thunder T2. But the Slappy wil be my go-to on decks with a sub 14.25 wheelbase
Why the t2 over the slappys?
My only guess is the WB factor, I hated the T2 Bushings, but I have always liked a shorter WB.
Until I got on the T2s, I was always missing my "pop" on anything taller than s 52mm axel height, and I was very skeptical about the 54mm T2,, but has not been an issue.
Crazy I usually have the same issue usually with taller trucks
I can’t say for certain but is it me or do slappys look like a reworked theeve v2 truck
I wonder if slappys and royals have the same wheelbase too since Ben degros in his royal trucks review said the wheelbase is in between an Indy and thunder like what slappy claims
They do
strange. I like both, but for some reason the I like the royals more when I'm doing flip tricks. I swap between the two regularly on different setups and have been on the royals more lately compared to the slappys. I always assumed the wb on the royals was slightly longer. Is there a height difference between the royals and the standard slappys?
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I switched to the low profiles awhile back but briefly had both the highs and lows set-up to compare.
For what it’s worth I think they have a pretty different turn, less quick/snappy/whatever but they still have a good turn for how low they are. It’s also something you get used to pretty quick.
I think the lows provide more stability and I really prefer the pop they give so I’m converted, so long as they keep selling them.
I ride the 8.5 Low Profile, was my favorite until I got on the Thunder T2. But the Slappy wil be my go-to on decks with a sub 14.25 wheelbase
Why the t2 over the slappys?
My only guess is the WB factor, I hated the T2 Bushings, but I have always liked a shorter WB.
Until I got on the T2s, I was always missing my "pop" on anything taller than s 52mm axel height, and I was very skeptical about the 54mm T2,, but has not been an issue.
Crazy I usually have the same issue usually with taller trucks
I can’t say for certain but is it me or do slappys look like a reworked theeve v2 truck
I wonder if slappys and royals have the same wheelbase too since Ben degros in his royal trucks review said the wheelbase is in between an Indy and thunder like what slappy claims
They do
strange. I like both, but for some reason the I like the royals more when I'm doing flip tricks. I swap between the two regularly on different setups and have been on the royals more lately compared to the slappys. I always assumed the wb on the royals was slightly longer. Is there a height difference between the royals and the standard slappys?
They royals are 52’mm height so a true mid truck and they’re lighter. I been riding the 149 royal standards and they feel very nimble for a wider truck imo. They both have nice turning too that’s probably due to the wheelbase
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strange. I like both, but for some reason the I like the royals more when I'm doing flip tricks. I swap between the two regularly on different setups and have been on the royals more lately compared to the slappys. I always assumed the wb on the royals was slightly longer. Is there a height difference between the royals and the standard slappys?
They royals are 52’mm height so a true mid truck and they’re lighter. I been riding the 149 royal standards and they feel very nimble for a wider truck imo. They both have nice turning too that’s probably due to the wheelbase
ok, tiny height difference and weight make then better for flips for me. Thanks.
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Unfortunate report on the ultra low inverted kingpin 9” I’ve been riding for a while, they’re for sure getting worse with age. What used to be a nice stable surfy turn is now wiggly and divey, due to how small the top bushing is.
As others have mentioned, as the top bushing breaks in it’s basically just becoming a little pancake with no resistance. So top part of the turn feels like on a truck with a shaved down bushing, not quite Daewon style but close, and then the rest still has that linear feel. Not unusable but not ideal, especially compared to the Ace/Stage IV turn I prefer. Will probably continue to run these until the 161 TIIs drop, but will likely abandon them after that. Maybe run the baseplate on a curb only setup with different hangers or something.
I’d imagine standard Slappys don’t have this issue, but maybe I’m wrong and it’s actually something with the formula of the bushing and not the size.
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Are Slappy bushings “weather resistant” like Ace?
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Unfortunate report on the ultra low inverted kingpin 9” I’ve been riding for a while, they’re for sure getting worse with age. What used to be a nice stable surfy turn is now wiggly and divey, due to how small the top bushing is.
As others have mentioned, as the top bushing breaks in it’s basically just becoming a little pancake with no resistance. So top part of the turn feels like on a truck with a shaved down bushing, not quite Daewon style but close, and then the rest still has that linear feel. Not unusable but not ideal, especially compared to the Ace/Stage IV turn I prefer. Will probably continue to run these until the 161 TIIs drop, but will likely abandon them after that. Maybe run the baseplate on a curb only setup with different hangers or something.
I’d imagine standard Slappys don’t have this issue, but maybe I’m wrong and it’s actually something with the formula of the bushing and not the size.
I am curious if you could get a set of the normal aftermarket bushings and try the top from them instead.
Has anyone else put the regular Slappy bushings in the ultra low inverted kingpin trucks?
Sure someone had said they did and it felt better, or I could be thinking of someone talking about Ace trucks too, but I noticed that with other brand bushings, where the low top flattens out a little too much sometimes, at which point it doesn't quite turn as you want.
Seems there are an abundant supply of aftermarket Slappy bushings around though, so that could be an option.
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I ran the ultra low with just the normal bushings, it seemed fine to me but I will say I only skated them a few times and went back to the low profile trucks. Possible I'd have ran into the issue eventually, though my bushings were pretty old when I tried it out. Never had much bushing issue on the standard kingpins other than the era that the top washer was to small and would carve up the bushing, but that was fixable with a different washer.
Weather resistant, I've noticed more difference from heat than cold. The cold they would get to normal before I was warmed up, usually like 15 mins or so on a mini. Heat could have been me cooking them in the car during summer since they either felt normal after a bit or it was in a range I could get used to without tightening them. Ohio temps so fairly hot and humid at times and winter I'll skate in 20 degree temps if it's dry.
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Will for sure try a thicker top bushing and see if that does the trick, mainly just feeling lazy since I don’t want to take the trucks off the board.
I’ll probably get something on the softer side and see how that goes, I like to ride my trucks loose-ish so I’m not sure about amount of threads available with the taller bushing.
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Glad to see that there is a new drop of slappy low profile and they didn’t get discontinued.
It was 90degrees today and had to tighten the bushings in my low profiles. I know it’s summer when I have to switch to some yellow Indy hard bushings.
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Glad to see that there is a new drop of slappy low profile and they didn’t get discontinued.
Yup, probably in minority here, but I prefer the low over the standard. Meaning if I wanted to have a higher truck, I'd rather put riser pads to low to match the standard height. The turn is more to my taste in the lows (which is interesting, since bushings and hangers are the same) - some might say it's not so "good" since they don't turn as sharply. The lows feel more stable and there is this weird thing with the standards, it feels that they're higher than what they are...
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Glad to see that there is a new drop of slappy low profile and they didn’t get discontinued.
Yup, probably in minority here, but I prefer the low over the standard. Meaning if I wanted to have a higher truck, I'd rather put riser pads to low to match the standard height. The turn is more to my taste in the lows (which is interesting, since bushings and hangers are the same) - some might say it's not so "good" since they don't turn as sharply. The lows feel more stable and there is this weird thing with the standards, it feels that they're higher than what they are...
I feel you on that, the regular slappy do feel kinda tall for being 1mm shorter than an Indy
Probably depends on the kicks on your deck too though
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Will for sure try a thicker top bushing and see if that does the trick, mainly just feeling lazy since I don’t want to take the trucks off the board.
I’ll probably get something on the softer side and see how that goes, I like to ride my trucks loose-ish so I’m not sure about amount of threads available with the taller bushing.
I’m using the Ace inverted kingpin top bushings in my slappy ultra lows and they work well. Turn feels loose. I used the ace inverted bushings in my Venture trucks before I switched to Slappy due to DLX bushings being affected by the cold, so had them handy.
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My go to trucks lately have been the ST1s, tried the Ultra Low Inverted and was nothing but disappointed with them.
The built in washer/kingpin isn't wide enough and shreds any top bushings I've had in them (Stock ones/Replacement ultra low bushings/Regular slappy bushings)
back on regular ST1s now, they give me no issues and I don't really need all that kingpin clearance from the Ultra Lows anyways.