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Skateboarding => Shoes & Gear => Topic started by: Smartass on January 01, 2019, 09:59:41 PM
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All the stuff from Otaku’s 2017 Thread.
I know there is already a woodshop thread, but this seems like it could be helpful. I'll try to keep it updated, so feel free to contribute or correct, plus I cant remember any from pennswood or SC... I know scum.co is in there somewhere?
edit: I'll put an asterisk* beside companies using 2 or more
P.S. Stix:
FA/Hockey*
Welcome
917*
Habitat*
Quasi
Wknd
Toy Machine*
Lifeblood
Plan B
Element* (until mid 2018)
Pizza
Snack
Foundation(pro models)
Meow
Numbers*
Vagrant
Flip* (NA)
Street Plant
Paisley
Western Addition
Scum Co.*
Thank You
Dog Town
Tired
New Deal* Reimagined
BBS(bareback/generator):
DLX Brands
Baker
Alien Workshop
Polar
Magenta
Primitive
Alltimers
Habitat*
FA/Hockey*
Deathwish
Heroin
Isle
Black Label
Birdhouse
Theories
Toy Machine*
Sk8Mafia
DGK
$lave
The Killing Floor
Hook-Ups/JK Industries
Traffic
Pass-Port
Frog
Scram
917*
Doom Sayers
Hoddle
Love.Sick
Zero*
Blood Wizard
Numbers*
Carpet Co.
Element* 2018+
April
Hopps 2019+
Meridian* (mainly done at Clutch)
TERROR OF PLANET X * 2019+
Unity
Dwindle(DSM):
Enjoi
Santa Cruz
Almost
Darkstar
Blind
Palace
Creature
Flip?
Evisen
Skateboard Cafe(rumored to be moving to HLC)
Zero* (EU/Asia)
Globe
FUCT
Madness
New Deal* Reissues
Control:
Studio
Birch
Scum Co.* (logo decks 2018)
Pennswood:
American Nomad
Scum Co.* (logo decks 2019+)
Coda
Lovenskate
Troika
Play!
DNA
South Central:
Bacon
Dieta
Fixer
Vacation
Politic
Northern Co.*
5boro
D.O.A
Morning Bell
Weird Wood
Super 8
Chapman:
Zoo York
Supreme
Adult Inc
Quincy:
Lurkvillie
Space Program
TERROR OF PLANET X* -2018
Jart(HLC):
Sk8Mafia(Europe)
Jart
Cruzade
Sour
Habitat(Europe)
Flip(Europe)
The National Skateboard Co.
SOVRN(Europe)
Watson:
Stereo(re-issue)
Blockhead
Assault
Prime:
Fixer
Dead-End
Stereo
Blue
Shorty's
Clutch:
Lewis Cruise
Brujaria
Program
Northern Co.* (2018+)
Visit
Raw Dog
Hotel Blue
Meridian*
Dailan Huahong(China):
Chocolate
Girl
Toy Machine*(NA: price-point, EU: Pro Boards etc.)
Foundation?
Alien Workshop* (Euro/price point boards?)
Plan B* (Euro/price point boards?)
Element* (Euro/price point boards?)
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Let me know if I missed anything from the last thread, been MIA for a minute.
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D.O.A. is South Central now.
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Hotel blue not Chapman anymore
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Hotel blue not Chapman anymore
What are they currently using?
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This is great...thanks!
5boro I don't think it's dwindle, it's another Chinese woodshop or Dailan.
I've seen some made in the USA toy machine boards that I assume are Watson.
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Hotel blue not Chapman anymore
What are they currently using?
No idea. All I know is that they switched to a "better woodshop"
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This is great...thanks!
5boro I don't think it's dwindle, it's another Chinese woodshop or Dailan.
I've seen some made in the USA toy machine boards that I assume are Watson.
the last few 5boro decks ive skated have been south central.
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D.O.A. is South Central now.
When are those flat as fvck going to be back in stock?
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Hotel Blue is clutch now and Raw dog is clutch, doa and 5boro is south central
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Hotel Blue is clutch now and Raw dog is clutch, doa and 5boro is south central
Thank you sir, updated
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You can add Quartet under South Central (I have asked them).
Very good wood quality and graphics, but dimensions and shapes are pretty unusual and may be disturbing for some people.
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Man went to the shop today and grabbed one of the new gx1000 decks and the shape is great. By far the squarest nose I've seen yet and I've been riding lots of quasis and hockeys lately. However the top ply is raised up and there is glue residue on the sides. PS stix qc seems lackluster lately seeing that my daughters meow came warped (could have been bad storage tho) and my local sent a few warped boards back. Here is a pic
http://imgur.com/a/TMNhd1T
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That happened to my quasi board once. I emailed qausi about it and they said “it doesn’t look that bad” good thing I bought it locally at a shop for exchange. If I were to buy it online sounds like they weren’t willing to help me out.
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They likely are but are you guys positive they are PS? They have the serial no? I just say that because of so many brands that used to do just PS now do both....
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They likely are but are you guys positive they are PS? They have the serial no? I just say that because of so many brands that used to do just PS now do both....
Yea it has the ps serial number. Bummer since I love ps shapes
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They likely are but are you guys positive they are PS? They have the serial no? I just say that because of so many brands that used to do just PS now do both....
Ps qc has really been pretty lackluster recently
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Tally, can you get a refund? I wouldn’t want to skate something that is delaminating before you even get trucks on it.
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Tally, can you get a refund? I wouldn’t want to skate something that is delaminating before you even get trucks on it.
Yea my local is pretty good. I should be able to just swap it out after work today. I do really want to skate this completely flat nose
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I'm currently riding a 8.25 Scumco & Sons Dave Abair "Knockout", and it's PS Stix.
I got it online and assumed it was going to be the Pennswood Deep Dish, but it's definitely PS Stix. No complaints so far though.
(http://cdn.companybe.com/Emage/product_photos/rd_images/rd_Scumco-Abair-KNOCKOUT.jpg)
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Was able to swap the funky deck out with a new one yesterday. Hyped to skate this shovel nose this weekend
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Habitats Price Points are PStix, no?
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I wish wood shops would put some sort of id on the board to indicate the shape like they do with girl/choco.
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I wish wood shops would put some sort of id on the board to indicate the shape like they do with girl/choco.
Same
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D.O.A. is South Central now.
February or March I think. It's when the new season will be out....I hope.
What size do you ride?
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D.O.A. is South Central now.
What size do you ride?
Know any shops that have any flat as fvck decks in stock that have an online store?
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D.O.A. is South Central now.
What size do you ride?
Faskates.com has three sizes available 8.25,8.5,8.75 available.
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D.O.A. is South Central now.
What size do you ride?
Faskates.com has three sizes available 8.25,8.5,8.75 available.
Nice thanks
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Is there any truth to South Central using prison labor?
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anyone has info about where antiz and frank boards are pressed?
skated my antiz several times in the rain and it's still great.
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I wish wood shops would put some sort of id on the board to indicate the shape like they do with girl/choco.
That's up to the brands to have done. Polar and baker do it but other bbs/gen brands don't. They just have to pay for it.
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euro aws is generator too. add syndrome brands (lurkville, blvd and mystery?), i asked them on instagram about their woodshop and they told me that they have their own
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You can add Quartet under South Central (I have asked them).
Very good wood quality and graphics, but dimensions and shapes are pretty unusual and may be disturbing for some people.
unsual how? most of the SC boards i've skated seemed pretty normal with a little more concave -- the shovel tails have more a flat bottom with a mellow edge but that fits the shape well
i had a nothern company matchbook deck when they were pressing them at SC, and that deck felt so off but it was also a red top and first board back after an injury so it was probably me
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D.O.A. is South Central now.
What size do you ride?
Faskates.com has three sizes available 8.25,8.5,8.75 available.
Oh yes. I thought I'd checked FA already. Good look.
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Anyone know who does “Send Help” decks?
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I just picked up a couple older habitat boards, there’s no PS Stix lazer thing so I’m assuming this makes them BBS? There’s a little black warning sticker with made in Mexico on it in the front truck holes
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I just picked up a couple older habitat boards, there’s no PS Stix lazer thing so I’m assuming this makes them BBS? There’s a little black warning sticker with made in Mexico on it in the front truck holes
Doesn't BBS also etch the top of the decks? I've seen this on Element decks made a BBS.
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anyone has info about where antiz and frank boards are pressed?
skated my antiz several times in the rain and it's still great.
Antiz and Frank are made in a German factory called Medicin/MDCN.
Not sure who else does boards there.
Quality is ok but not Generator.
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anyone has info about where antiz and frank boards are pressed?
skated my antiz several times in the rain and it's still great.
Antiz and Frank are made in a German factory called Medicin/MDCN.
Not sure who else does boards there.
Quality is ok but not Generator.
Does MDCN have there own factory?
I remember Antiz was listed as a Partner brand here
https://skatetruck.en.alibaba.com/?spm=a2700.icbuShop.88.12.6c3d3c8aX3nszX scroll down to the bottom
although this info could be out of date
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anyone has info about where antiz and frank boards are pressed?
skated my antiz several times in the rain and it's still great.
Antiz and Frank are made in a German factory called Medicin/MDCN.
Not sure who else does boards there.
Quality is ok but not Generator.
Does MDCN have there own factory?
I remember Antiz was listed as a Partner brand here
https://skatetruck.en.alibaba.com/?spm=a2700.icbuShop.88.12.6c3d3c8aX3nszX scroll down to the bottom
although this info could be out of date
They just put the heat transfer on the boards, if they even do this in Germany.
I hate the decks from mdcn.
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anyone has info about where antiz and frank boards are pressed?
skated my antiz several times in the rain and it's still great.
Antiz and Frank are made in a German factory called Medicin/MDCN.
Not sure who else does boards there.
Quality is ok but not Generator.
Does MDCN have there own factory?
I remember Antiz was listed as a Partner brand here
https://skatetruck.en.alibaba.com/?spm=a2700.icbuShop.88.12.6c3d3c8aX3nszX scroll down to the bottom
although this info could be out of date
They just put the heat transfer on the boards, if they even do this in Germany.
I hate the decks from mdcn.
Indeed, never been a big fan.
I always thought for some reasons that they were made in Germany ( how naive of me).
Also, Antiz is known to change their woodshop based on their needs.
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I just picked up a couple older habitat boards, there’s no PS Stix lazer thing so I’m assuming this makes them BBS? There’s a little black warning sticker with made in Mexico on it in the front truck holes
Doesn't BBS also etch the top of the decks? I've seen this on Element decks made a BBS.
Not always. I've had a few AWS since they moved to BBS and they all just had the Mexico sticker.
I know Habitat has been doing some of their boards and PS and some of them at BBS. I got one of the exposition reissues this past spring at it was still PS, though I spoke with (on here and IRL) a few people riding Habitat boards that were BBS.
I am wondering if they are/were in the process of moving all production to BBS since they've merged with AWS again. That would rule.
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Anyone know who does “Send Help” decks?
Send Help is PS and they actually have some pretty sick shapes.
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Don't mean to put a useless bump but just wanted to show appreciation for the directory. My go-to when searching for a new board to try.
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Don't mean to put a useless bump but just wanted to show appreciation for the directory. My go-to when searching for a new board to try.
Would like to say thanks as well.
And whine about my current obsession: flat, narrow boards (certainly by the standards of the day). Who has em? I can’t break boards, I’m super old and skate slow. Just trying to land a few more floppy tricks before I turn to dust
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Anyone know who makes Club Midnite? It looks like BBS/Generator with the little round warning sticker but that’s it?
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That's usually all the info you need....
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has anyone ever had a finesse board? Know anything about the wood or what the shape is like?
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There might be some errors, but I got tired of seeing this thing not alphabetized. Props to the homie who started this!! Here's my attempt:
PS Stix:
917*
Element* (until mid 2018)
Flip* (NA)
Foundation (pro models)
FA/Hockey*
Habitat*
Lifeblood
Meow
Numbers*
Paisley
Plan B
Pizza
Quasi
Scum Co.*
Send Help
Snack
Street Plant
Toy Machine*
Welcome
Western Addition
WKND
Vagrant
BBS(Bareback/Generator) :
917*
Alien Workshop
Alltimers
Baker
Birdhouse
Black Label
Blood Wizard
Carpet Co.
Deathwish
DGK
DLX Brands
Doom Sayers
Element* 2018+
Frog
FA/Hockey*
Habitat*
Heroin
Hoddle
Hook-Ups/JK Industries
Isle
Love.Sick
Magenta
Numbers*
Pass-Port
Polar
Primitive
Scram
Sk8Mafia
$lave
The Killing Floor
Theories
Traffic
Toy Machine
Zero
Dwindle(DSM):
Almost
Blind
Creature
Darkstar
Enjoy
Evisen
Flip?
FUCT
Globe
Palace
Santa Cruz
Skateboard Cafe (rumored to be moving to HLC)
Zero* (EU/Asia)
Control:
Birch
Scum Co.* (logo decks)
Studio
Pennswood:
American Nomad
Coda
Lovenskate
Scum Co.*
TERROR OF PLANET X
South Central:
5boro
Bacon
Dieta
D.O.A.
Fixer
Northern Co.*
Politic
Vacation
Chapman:
Adult Inc.
Hopps
Supreme
Zoo York
Quincy:
Lurkville
Space Program
Jart(HLC):
Cruzade
Flip(Europe)
Habitat(Europe)
Jart
Sk8Mafia(Europe)
Sour
SOVRN(Europe)
The National Skateboard Co.
Watson:
Assault
Blockhead
Stereo(re-issue)
Prime:
Blue
Dead-End
Fixer
Stereo
Clutch:
Brujaria
Hotel Blue
Lewis Cruise
Northern Co.* (2018+)
Program
Raw Dog
Visit
Dailan Huahong(China):
Alien Workshop* (Euro/price point boards?)
Chocolate
Element* (Euro/price point boards?)
Foundation
Girl
Toy Machine*(NA: price-point, EU: Pro Boards etc.)
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Anyone know who does “Send Help” decks?
Send Help is PS and they actually have some pretty sick shapes.
Thanks man✌🏼
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What's the deal with this??? Anyone tried
(https://i.postimg.cc/mgZ6JJM9/Screenshot-20190221-120215.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/vcjz6P08)image ru (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/KzYGYJd3/Screenshot-20190221-120703.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/7Cp8sMPq)
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I watched a CCS product test with them last night, it’s two little bumpers in the ply at the nose and tail that supposedly make it a lot harder to chip and keep its shape longer. I don’t know how much I trust these videos but compared to the other Santa Cruz they had along side it it held up well
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I’m gonna start up a small board company through Clutch later this year. Anyone know the quality of them? I’ve ridden a homie’s board who rides for the distribution, and I enjoyed it. Looking for feedback
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anyone has info about where antiz and frank boards are pressed?
skated my antiz several times in the rain and it's still great.
Antiz and Frank are made in a German factory called Medicin/MDCN.
Not sure who else does boards there.
Quality is ok but not Generator.
Does MDCN have there own factory?
I remember Antiz was listed as a Partner brand here
https://skatetruck.en.alibaba.com/?spm=a2700.icbuShop.88.12.6c3d3c8aX3nszX scroll down to the bottom
although this info could be out of date
They just put the heat transfer on the boards, if they even do this in Germany.
I hate the decks from mdcn.
Indeed, never been a big fan.
I always thought for some reasons that they were made in Germany ( how naive of me).
Also, Antiz is known to change their woodshop based on their needs.
MDCN gets their boards from Excel woodshop in china who do crailtap wood and nhs boards.
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I’m gonna start up a small board company through Clutch later this year. Anyone know the quality of them? I’ve ridden a homie’s board who rides for the distribution, and I enjoyed it. Looking for feedback
I had a few runs through them a few years ago. I'm pretty sure I stuck with the S and C shapes. Good quality and good customer service. They have a lot of different shapes so I suggest spending some money and getting some samples. They also have a 50 deck minimum per graphic but you have the option to get different shapes/ color veneers (5 deck minimum per shape/ color veneer). Turnaround wasn't too long either.
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I’m gonna start up a small board company through Clutch later this year. Anyone know the quality of them? I’ve ridden a homie’s board who rides for the distribution, and I enjoyed it. Looking for feedback
I had a few runs through them a few years ago. I'm pretty sure I stuck with the S and C shapes. Good quality and good customer service. They have a lot of different shapes so I suggest spending some money and getting some samples. They also have a 50 deck minimum per graphic but you have the option to get different shapes/ color veneers (5 deck minimum per shape/ color veneer). Turnaround wasn't too long either.
I’m excited to try a few samples, I’m eyeing a few shapes already. They make an 8.75 twin tail. That looks interesting.
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I’m gonna start up a small board company through Clutch later this year. Anyone know the quality of them? I’ve ridden a homie’s board who rides for the distribution, and I enjoyed it. Looking for feedback
I’ve had a few of their boards. I generally like them, but I break them a lot. I don’t usually break boards, but I’ve broken almost every one I’ve had. I’m also a little bigger and heavy on my feet so take that all with a grain of salt.
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I’ve never snapped a clutch board. But I’ve seen everyeone else snap theirs. I do notice they chip really easy. I can describe them to feel like dlx board but slightly thicker but sogs out quick like a psstix board.
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I heard from multiple shops/sources that Chapman is going through some issues right now. Pretty sure those companies using Chapman have switched to Generator. For how long I don’t know.
Sucks because Hopps boards in 8 and 8.125 are my favourite.
I had friends making boards through chapman and theyd consistently fuck up orders and send wrong quantities. they also had a woodshop in maine that closed down last year and i think that has a huge part of why everyone has been leaving them.
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I heard from multiple shops/sources that Chapman is going through some issues right now. Pretty sure those companies using Chapman have switched to Generator. For how long I don’t know.
Sucks because Hopps boards in 8 and 8.125 are my favourite.
I had friends making boards through chapman and theyd consistently fuck up orders and send wrong quantities. they also had a woodshop in maine that closed down last year and i think that has a huge part of why everyone has been leaving them.
I also haven't heard great things about Chapman. I've seen kids break brand new boards that were from a local brand manufactured through Chapman. Maybe they use less quality wood for smaller brands opposed to Zooyork or whoever else they work with
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Has anyone ever skated a Skateboard Cafe deck? It is a british brand, which has some nice graphics and they are fairly cheap to get in Germany.
https://skateboardcafe.com/collections/decks
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This might be the wrong place to ask, but does South Central have a shape chart that shows wheelbases? I've always liked Politic boards, but I haven't had one since I started paying attention to WB. I checked both Politic's and South Central's websites with no luck
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Girl changed wood, to what? Idk but their making it a big deal
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https://youtu.be/UVUB0HDQMTs
Yes, but he doesn't say which woodshop they use, does he?
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https://youtu.be/UVUB0HDQMTs
Yes, but he doesn't say which woodshop they use, does he?
ps stix I’m pretty sure. The laser engraving and the the specs are all something ps stix does
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https://youtu.be/Ymo22K2_JMM?t=444
@7:24
moved from factory in China to another factory in China. EXCEL
I have no beef with boards made in China as long as the QC is maintained.
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I thought it was the same factory but they ramped up the quality.....nevertheless looks like the new boards are better, Ben mentioned that his didn't sog out or anything.
Ideally I'd rather have them make less boards but through generator but I can see that they aren't gonna do that so this is a better option. I guess with so many companies going through the same shops it might be tough w crail as they manufacture a ton of product. You see how FA has to switch off, I bet that's problematic. I agree if there is no viable shops in NA and they can control,the quality control in China than so be it...
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Skating a Chocolate right now and my experience has been pretty good. I love Crail shapes and the way they have them codified so you know what you're getting. To me that's their biggest strength. No they are not BBS level durable, but they've improved for sure and Chocolate still puts out some of the best graphics in my opinion so I'll keep skating them.
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I thought it was the same factory but they ramped up the quality.....nevertheless looks like the new boards are better, Ben mentioned that his didn't sog out or anything.
Ideally, I'd rather have them make less boards but through generator but I can see that they aren't gonna do that so this is a better option. I guess with so many companies going through the same shops it might be tough w crail as they manufacture a ton of product. You see how FA has to switch off, I bet that's problematic. I agree if there is no viable shops in NA and they can control,the quality control in China than so be it...
That could be the case. I don't know for sure.
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Does anyone know who makes tactics boards?
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Does anyone know who makes tactics boards?
I know I’m an asshole....but wtf. How could you?
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Does anyone know who makes tactics boards?
I know I’m an asshole....but wtf. How could you?
yeah at least do CCS bro:
Ccs has an option now to upload your own graphics or text to make a custom deck.
These are mine.
(http://i63.tinypic.com/16ih65d.jpg)
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Does anyone know who makes tactics boards?
I know I’m an asshole....but wtf. How could you?
I was just browsing their site and liked one of their graphics.
Last shop board I rode was a Liberty board shop damn near a decade ago.
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Does anyone know who makes tactics boards?
Bbs
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I heard from multiple shops/sources that Chapman is going through some issues right now. Pretty sure those companies using Chapman have switched to Generator. For how long I don’t know.
Sucks because Hopps boards in 8 and 8.125 are my favourite.
I had friends making boards through chapman and theyd consistently fuck up orders and send wrong quantities. they also had a woodshop in maine that closed down last year and i think that has a huge part of why everyone has been leaving them.
I also haven't heard great things about Chapman. I've seen kids break brand new boards that were from a local brand manufactured through Chapman. Maybe they use less quality wood for smaller brands opposed to Zooyork or whoever else they work with
Their boards are quality. I don't think I've ever broken a chapman
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I found them indestructible but that was years ago now.....
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is Sovrn PS Stix in the states? noticed you guys have the jart one but not the states
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just looking at top pics from a few websites make me think generator. Skatewarehouse shows no laser seal
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Anyone ever see "7 K" stamped on a Generator deck?
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I watched a CCS product test with them last night, it’s two little bumpers in the ply at the nose and tail that supposedly make it a lot harder to chip and keep its shape longer. I don’t know how much I trust these videos but compared to the other Santa Cruz they had along side it it held up well
https://youtu.be/bhc81IIVic4
Powerply was a term they used in 80s:
(http://skateandannoy.com/galleries/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/vintageadverts/santa-cruz/Santa-Cruz-PowerPly-ryan-parsons.jpg)
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I watched a CCS product test with them last night, it’s two little bumpers in the ply at the nose and tail that supposedly make it a lot harder to chip and keep its shape longer. I don’t know how much I trust these videos but compared to the other Santa Cruz they had along side it it held up well
https://youtu.be/bhc81IIVic4
Powerply was a term they used in 80s:
(http://skateandannoy.com/galleries/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/vintageadverts/santa-cruz/Santa-Cruz-PowerPly-ryan-parsons.jpg)
They said that it’s more resistant to chipping but I’m wondering if they are also more resistant to breakage?
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anyone has info about where antiz and frank boards are pressed?
skated my antiz several times in the rain and it's still great.
Antiz and Frank are made in a German factory called Medicin/MDCN.
Not sure who else does boards there.
Quality is ok but not Generator.
Hello Giza
That is just totally Wrong.
So please don't spread information you don't have.
Thanks
THE ANTIZ FAM
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What is the standard for manufacturers to determine the, "Quality" of wood? Every batch must be different. It is trees after all. Just curious what processes wood nerd guys like PS go though when a new batch comes in. How many are rejected? What makes a batch good? People on here talk about pros getting the, "Good wood." How do they test it?
Skaters just get the end product and generally go by feel and durability.
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you mean batches of veneers? I would assume better quality is related to fewer knots and inconsistencies in individual veneers.
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always found this insightful:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2iJHbkNEx8
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Does anyone know who makes tactics boards?
I know I’m an asshole....but wtf. How could you?
yeah at least do CCS bro:
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Ccs has an option now to upload your own graphics or text to make a custom deck.
These are mine.
(http://i63.tinypic.com/16ih65d.jpg)
8) 8) :-*
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This might be the wrong place to ask, but does South Central have a shape chart that shows wheelbases? I've always liked Politic boards, but I haven't had one since I started paying attention to WB. I checked both Politic's and South Central's websites with no luck
The 8 and 7.875 i skated all had a 14,1 to 14.25 inch whelbase, measured from the bottom.
The 8.2x I measured was quite below 14.25, all Decks from around 2016-2017.
You can find the wb for bigger sizes on tactics or Skatewarehouse, dunno if they are right.
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moved from factory in China to another factory in China. EXCEL
I have no beef with boards made in China as long as the QC is maintained.
They´ve been excel this whole time, possibly just some improvements at the factory.
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Anybody have any idea what woodshop/ distribution that Thank You Skateboards is using?
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Anybody have any idea what woodshop/ distribution that Thank You Skateboards is using?
I'll take a wild guess and say dwindle
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Pictures from skatewarehouse looks like they use Generator wood based on how those concave looks. Plus has a Mexico sticker
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I know that NHS dropshipes from Taiwan and DSM from Guangdong Province. These can't be same factories.
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You guys see that skate mental now uses bbs?
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You guys see that skate mental now uses bbs?
What are their shapes like?
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You guys see that skate mental now uses bbs?
Not sure if this helps, but, In the comments they mentioned the shapes are staying the same as before.
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You guys see that skate mental now uses bbs?
Not sure if this helps, but, In the comments they mentioned the shapes are staying the same as before.
They have a 8.125 shape that is 14 inch wheelbase. On BBS wood that is awesome 😎.
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I’m confused about one thing. Is BBS wood the same as generator? And is DLX wood different or the same as the rest of BBS/Generator?
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I’m confused about one thing. Is BBS wood the same as generator? And is DLX wood different or the same as the rest of BBS/Generator?
Is your user name inspired by the Torre that used to be on Broad in south Philly?
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Has anyone skated a yard sale board and knows what wood shop they are using? have been a big fan of their videos for years so would love to try one out.
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I’m confused about one thing. Is BBS wood the same as generator? And is DLX wood different or the same as the rest of BBS/Generator?
Is your user name inspired by the Torre that used to be on Broad in south Philly?
Nah bro it’s my actual name lol. And btw I was the first skater with that name before Torey Pudwill (it’s pronounced the same) bc I was born 1 year before him 😂😂
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The quasis at the shop were made in mexico, no ps logo. Was there a change up or am i just late?
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Does anyone know what wood is used for Powell/ Skate one (including mini logo boards)? Who makes them, what wood they use?
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The quasis at the shop were made in mexico, no ps logo. Was there a change up or am i just late?
Schmidt operates in Mexico
I was asking about SOVRN boards and someone mentioned the made in Mexico sticker meant it was probably generator, but its definitely a Schmidt stick. Finally got mine in and it doesnt have the laser and had the Mexico sticker, but im positive its a Schmiddy.
Also stumbled across a Chad Bowers interview where he mentions PS being in Mexico
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this is from the Stix website.
"PS Stix is a custom skateboard manufacturing company based out of Costa Mesa for over 30 years. For the past 10 years we have operated a whole owned factory in Tijuana Mexico. The Professor retains a development workshop in Costa Mesa where pro skateboarders visit to refine their boards and he builds templates , tooling and process's that he personally executes at his factory weekly."
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I know there is already a woodshop thread, but this seems like it could be helpful. I'll try to keep it updated, so feel free to contribute or correct, plus I cant remember any from pennswood or SC... I know scum.co is in there somewhere?
edit: I'll put an asterisk* beside companies using 2 or more
P.S. Stix:
FA/Hockey*
Welcome
917*
Habitat*
Quasi
Wknd
Toy Machine*
Lifeblood
Plan B
Element* (until mid 2018)
Pizza
Snack
Foundation(pro models)
Meow
Numbers*
Vagrant
Flip* (NA)
Street Plant
Paisley
Western Addition
Scum Co.*
BBS(bareback/generator):
DLX Brands
Baker
Alien Workshop
Polar
Magenta
Primitive
Alltimers
Habitat*
FA/Hockey*
Deathwish
Heroin
Isle
Black Label
Birdhouse
Theories
Toy Machine*
Sk8Mafia
DGK
$lave
The Killing Floor
Hook-Ups/JK Industries
Traffic
Pass-Port
Frog
Scram
917*
Doom Sayers
Hoddle
Love.Sick
Zero*
Blood Wizard
Numbers*
Carpet Co.
Element* 2018+
Dwindle(DSM):
Enjoi
Santa Cruz
Almost
Darkstar
Blind
Palace
Creature
Flip?
Evisen
Skateboard Cafe(rumored to be moving to HLC)
Zero* (EU/Asia)
Globe
FUCT
Control:
Studio
Birch
Scum Co.* (logo decks)
Pennswood:
American Nomad
Scum Co. *
Coda
Lovenskate
TERROR OF PLANET X
South Central:
Bacon
Dieta
Fixer
Vacation
Politic
Northern Co.*
5boro
D.O.A
Chapman:
Zoo York
Hopps
Supreme
Adult Inc
Quincy:
Lurkvillie
Space Program
Jart(HLC):
Sk8Mafia(Europe)
Jart
Cruzade
Sour
Habitat(Europe)
Flip(Europe)
The National Skateboard Co.
SOVRN(Europe)
Watson:
Stereo(re-issue)
Blockhead
Assault
Prime:
Fixer
Dead-End
Stereo
Blue
Clutch:
Lewis Cruise
Brujaria
Program
Northern Co.* (2018+)
Visit
Raw Dog
Hotel Blue
Dailan Huahong(China):
Chocolate
Girl
Toy Machine*(NA: price-point, EU: Pro Boards etc.)
Foundation?
Alien Workshop* (Euro/price point boards?)
Plan B* (Euro/price point boards?)
Element* (Euro/price point boards?)
So NHS is part of Dwindle?
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So I was checking out a couple of new Toy Machine boards and they seem to be Watson now??
is Watson wood any good?
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Toy and foundation used to be mainly Watson but mostly is psstix now. The pro models and screen printed boards are usually Watson. I like the psstix a bit more since it’s wayyy flatter and mellow kicks.
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Can anyone comment on the shapes and quality of sour decks?
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In the US at least, pretty standard generator/BBS lay up I think...like isle or magenta....
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Something I noticed sanding back a couple boards today were they had the ps Stix seal and serial number but it wasn’t laser etched, just printed.
I really hope these aren’t shittier boards made by ps
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Toy and foundation used to be mainly Watson but mostly is psstix now. The pro models and screen printed boards are usually Watson. I like the psstix a bit more since it’s wayyy flatter and mellow kicks.
They do ll the above....you're right about the pro models, some of the toy graphic boards a say Made in USA which is Watson. They do price points made in China too....
Someone was asking about control boards....reminds me a lot of crail concave....shapes are pretty standard Popsicle, really flat kicks.
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I know there is already a woodshop thread, but this seems like it could be helpful. I'll try to keep it updated, so feel free to contribute or correct, plus I cant remember any from pennswood or SC... I know scum.co is in there somewhere?
edit: I'll put an asterisk* beside companies using 2 or more
P.S. Stix:
FA/Hockey*
Welcome
917*
Habitat*
Quasi
Wknd
Toy Machine*
Lifeblood
Plan B
Element* (until mid 2018)
Pizza
Snack
Foundation(pro models)
Meow
Numbers*
Vagrant
Flip* (NA)
Street Plant
Paisley
Western Addition
Scum Co.*
BBS(bareback/generator):
DLX Brands
Baker
Alien Workshop
Polar
Magenta
Primitive
Alltimers
Habitat*
FA/Hockey*
Deathwish
Heroin
Isle
Black Label
Birdhouse
Theories
Toy Machine*
Sk8Mafia
DGK
$lave
The Killing Floor
Hook-Ups/JK Industries
Traffic
Pass-Port
Frog
Scram
917*
Doom Sayers
Hoddle
Love.Sick
Zero*
Blood Wizard
Numbers*
Carpet Co.
Element* 2018+
Dwindle(DSM):
Enjoi
Santa Cruz
Almost
Darkstar
Blind
Palace
Creature
Flip?
Evisen
Skateboard Cafe(rumored to be moving to HLC)
Zero* (EU/Asia)
Globe
FUCT
Control:
Studio
Birch
Scum Co.* (logo decks)
Pennswood:
American Nomad
Scum Co. *
Coda
Lovenskate
TERROR OF PLANET X
South Central:
Bacon
Dieta
Fixer
Vacation
Politic
Northern Co.*
5boro
D.O.A
Chapman:
Zoo York
Hopps
Supreme
Adult Inc
Quincy:
Lurkvillie
Space Program
Jart(HLC):
Sk8Mafia(Europe)
Jart
Cruzade
Sour
Habitat(Europe)
Flip(Europe)
The National Skateboard Co.
SOVRN(Europe)
Watson:
Stereo(re-issue)
Blockhead
Assault
Prime:
Fixer
Dead-End
Stereo
Blue
Clutch:
Lewis Cruise
Brujaria
Program
Northern Co.* (2018+)
Visit
Raw Dog
Hotel Blue
Dailan Huahong(China):
Chocolate
Girl
Toy Machine*(NA: price-point, EU: Pro Boards etc.)
Foundation?
Alien Workshop* (Euro/price point boards?)
Plan B* (Euro/price point boards?)
Element* (Euro/price point boards?)
I read at the websites of a few of these. Zero is Dwindle now. Most powell peralta decks are made in the USA, but every other skateone owned deck brand is made in china.
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anyone got a line on who makes club decks?
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anyone got a line on who makes club decks?
I asked this in the 2018 one and drunk guy told me it was clutch. I have one of them waiting to be set up. I don't know when I turned into a board hoarder but I'm sitting on a couple decks. I've never skated a clutch deck before.
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(https://img.skatewarehouse.com/watermark/rs.php?path=TYLGP7DK-2.jpg&nw=435)
(https://img.skatewarehouse.com/watermark/rs.php?path=TYLGP7DK-3.jpg&nw=435)
Thank you is PSSTIX. concave looks mellow too
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Does anyone know what wood is used for Powell/ Skate one (including mini logo boards)? Who makes them, what wood they use?
Not sure if you’re serious but I thought it was well known that they make them in-house. There are a few vids on YouTube with George Powell showing the factory.
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I read at the websites of a few of these. Zero is Dwindle now. Most powell peralta decks are made in the USA, but every other skateone owned deck brand is made in china.
I think Jamie said on Instagram a few months back that they changed to another non-dwindle factory again. How recent is your info?
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Does anyone know what wood is used for Powell/ Skate one (including mini logo boards)? Who makes them, what wood they use?
Not sure if you’re serious but I thought it was well known that they make them in-house. There are a few vids on YouTube with George Powell showing the factory.
They make them using maple wood, but only powell flight decks are made in the US now. The rest of the skate one decks are made in china, but they still use the same method for the other decks. example: mini logo
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I read at the websites of a few of these. Zero is Dwindle now. Most powell peralta decks are made in the USA, but every other skateone owned deck brand is made in china.
I think Jamie said on Instagram a few months back that they changed to another non-dwindle factory again. How recent is your info?
the only ones ive seen are generator.
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I read at the websites of a few of these. Zero is Dwindle now. Most powell peralta decks are made in the USA, but every other skateone owned deck brand is made in china.
I think Jamie said on Instagram a few months back that they changed to another non-dwindle factory again. How recent is your info?
Ok hold on, in 2014, Jamie said that zero would be under dwindle. Past that, there have been no updates on switching manufacturing, but there were previous rumors about them switching to generator.
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http://www.slamskateboarding.com/news/the-feed/3448-zero-goes-solo
We'd like to continue to use DSM [Dwindle’s woodshop] as our board manufacturer for the international market and we're setting up manufacturing for North America in the US and Mexico.
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The ones I've seen are generator and price point China......not sure which....it was dwindle but that was a few years ago....
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Toy and foundation used to be mainly Watson but mostly is psstix now. The pro models and screen printed boards are usually Watson. I like the psstix a bit more since it’s wayyy flatter and mellow kicks.
They do ll the above....you're right about the pro models, some of the toy graphic boards a say Made in USA which is Watson. They do price points made in China too....
Someone was asking about control boards....reminds me a lot of crail concave....shapes are pretty standard Popsicle, really flat kicks.
So just to clarify and make sure I understand toy machine pro models are ps stix,non pro model team boards are Watson and price points are China? Are anyone BBS or was that a typo on the list?
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No BBS, I'm pretty sure....you can usually tell the PS have a serial no, the watsons say 'made in the USA' the ones from China say :'made in China'.
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Toy and foundation used to be mainly Watson but mostly is psstix now. The pro models and screen printed boards are usually Watson. I like the psstix a bit more since it’s wayyy flatter and mellow kicks.
They do ll the above....you're right about the pro models, some of the toy graphic boards a say Made in USA which is Watson. They do price points made in China too....
Someone was asking about control boards....reminds me a lot of crail concave....shapes are pretty standard Popsicle, really flat kicks.
So just to clarify and make sure I understand toy machine pro models are ps stix,non pro model team boards are Watson and price points are China? Are anyone BBS or was that a typo on the list?
No what he means that the pro boards are made by Watson. Most non pro boards are made by ps stix. I don't know if price points are made in china but thats how nearly every other company does price points so im assuming theyre made in china
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Toy and foundation used to be mainly Watson but mostly is psstix now. The pro models and screen printed boards are usually Watson. I like the psstix a bit more since it’s wayyy flatter and mellow kicks.
They do ll the above....you're right about the pro models, some of the toy graphic boards a say Made in USA which is Watson. They do price points made in China too....
Someone was asking about control boards....reminds me a lot of crail concave....shapes are pretty standard Popsicle, really flat kicks.
So just to clarify and make sure I understand toy machine pro models are ps stix,non pro model team boards are Watson and price points are China? Are anyone BBS or was that a typo on the list?
So there was an Alibaba page, claiming that they partnered with Toy Machine, element, girl and a few other brands. It was Dailan Huahong not excel. The page specifically showed a Toy Machine graphic being printed. If you find it in the old woodshop thread, the link no longer works. What they are making for these brands is not confirmed. They could be making price point decks or maybe cheaper completes.
edit:
This was the partner image used on their page.
(https://sc01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB11q4qQVXXXXasXVXXq6xXFXXX9/200432476/HTB11q4qQVXXXXasXVXXq6xXFXXX9.jpg)
They also made baseball gloves, bats and other sports equipment. My guess is they when the internet caught on they some brands probably asked them to take it down. In my experience, it's not hard for a Chinese factory to just change names and continue business as usual.
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I think pro is PS, some graphic Watson, some graphic China.....
Maybe you're mail ordering or something but it's pretty easy to tell if you read the labels....
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I think pro is PS, some graphic Watson, some graphic China.....
Maybe you're mail ordering or something but it's pretty easy to tell if you read the labels....
^This is correct. I visit the warehouse from time to time and nerd out on these things, so I've seen the progression of where Toy/Foundation get boards made. J...soy... also nerds out on the same stacks in the same warehouse, he knows what's up.
Must be weird for diehard Toy fans to have the wood change up so much over the past decade - from Watson everything, to BBS everything, to BBS for Pros and Watson for logo decks, to BBS pros/Watson & PS Stix for logo decks, to PS Stix everything for a second, and Now PS Stix pros/Watson & China logo decks. Shoulda' just stuck with BBS, especially considering it's right there mere miles from Tum Yeto, but they're doing what they can afford, basically.
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I think pro is PS, some graphic Watson, some graphic China.....
Maybe you're mail ordering or something but it's pretty easy to tell if you read the labels....
^This is correct. I visit the warehouse from time to time and nerd out on these things, so I've seen the progression of where Toy/Foundation get boards made. J...soy... also nerds out on the same stacks in the same warehouse, he knows what's up.
Must be weird for diehard Toy fans to have the wood change up so much over the past decade - from Watson everything, to BBS everything, to BBS for Pros and Watson for logo decks, to BBS pros/Watson & PS Stix for logo decks, to PS Stix everything for a second, and Now PS Stix pros/Watson & China logo decks. Shoulda' just stuck with BBS, especially considering it's right there mere miles from Tum Yeto, but they're doing what they can afford, basically.
yeah just like how SkateOne went from all US manufacturing to making flight decks in the US and nearly every other deck in china. Barely anyone noticed (go on their website) at first.
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I don't want to speak on everyone's behalf....but I will....in our defence we haven't cared about skating a Powell board for 15 years regardless of the manufacturer....
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I don't want to speak on everyone's behalf....but I will....in our defence we haven't cared about skating a Powell board for 15 years regardless of the manufacturer....
Yeah it aint worth it im talking about ALL of SkateOne's brands tho. But other than that you right nobody really buys those anymore just wanted to give a heads up.
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Baseball bat lit
the fuck is that supposed to mean?
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I read at the websites of a few of these. Zero is Dwindle now. Most powell peralta decks are made in the USA, but every other skateone owned deck brand is made in china.
I think Jamie said on Instagram a few months back that they changed to another non-dwindle factory again. How recent is your info?
Saw a Zero a couple weeks ago that had the “made in Mexico “ sticker but didn’t know they were BBS/Generator wood. I may go back and pick it up since it had the dimensions I like 8x31.5x14wb.
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Been really digging the flat/mellow DOA decks. Curious if anyone knows if any other South Central brands use the flat "e-mold" shape.
Only other South Central decks I see regularly are Politic which have the really steep concave.
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Been really digging the flat/mellow DOA decks. Curious if anyone knows if any other South Central brands use the flat "e-mold" shape.
Only other South Central decks I see regularly are Politic which have the really steep concave.
Ordered some 5Boro which should be from South Central, will report back.
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Does anyone know what roger is using nowadays? iirc the last time they were around their boards were ps stix.
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Does anyone know what roger is using nowadays? iirc the last time they were around their boards were ps stix.
clutch
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Been really digging the flat/mellow DOA decks. Curious if anyone knows if any other South Central brands use the flat "e-mold" shape.
Only other South Central decks I see regularly are Politic which have the really steep concave.
Ordered some 5Boro which should be from South Central, will report back.
Much appreciated!
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Been really digging the flat/mellow DOA decks. Curious if anyone knows if any other South Central brands use the flat "e-mold" shape.
Only other South Central decks I see regularly are Politic which have the really steep concave.
Ordered some 5Boro which should be from South Central, will report back.
Much appreciated!
5boro is steep
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I'm curious too because it seems 5boro has had boards made by a few people....
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Does anyone know what roger is using nowadays? iirc the last time they were around their boards were ps stix.
Thank you!
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Been really digging the flat/mellow DOA decks. Curious if anyone knows if any other South Central brands use the flat "e-mold" shape.
Only other South Central decks I see regularly are Politic which have the really steep concave.
Ordered some 5Boro which should be from South Central, will report back.
Much appreciated!
5boro is steep
5boro Race series and nueva york is the same shape as my oldee politics 8, pretty steep and 14.25 wb., looks like same mold.
Ich have the reflective 5boro Logo in 8 and the shape is completly different, more flat, 14 inch wheelbase, no colored plys, i am not sure if even SC wood.
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so are Traffic still chap or are they not ne more because of TOA
I don't know if anyone ever answered you but they're generator now.
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I think pro is PS, some graphic Watson, some graphic China.....
Maybe you're mail ordering or something but it's pretty easy to tell if you read the labels....
I just grabbed a toy machine non pro model non price point and it says made in Mexico on the wrapping but the exact same graphic ( that I didn’t grab)had a laser etched toy machine logo on it and the size. I’m gonna skate it either way. I’m just used to always skating BBS/DLX etc and trying to branch out and get educated on things that’s not BBS
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Well there's the update.....some graphics PS as well....
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Well there's the update.....some graphics PS as well....
So are some PS laser etched and some not? But still both PS? Because out of 2 boards with the same graphic one had a laser etching on the top ply and then the one I got has a stamp with the size?
Sorry I keep asking stuff but I am just curious and getting OCD about it.
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Well there's the update.....some graphics PS as well....
So are some PS laser etched and some not? But still both PS? Because out of 2 boards with the same graphic one had a laser etching on the top ply and then the one I got has a stamp with the size?
Sorry I keep asking stuff but I am just curious and getting OCD about it.
A friend of mine has the fists board, and although it's used it appears to be PS. It's also one of the worst shapes I've ever seen... like, tapered on both ends but kind of square, and skinny, with very short nose and tail.Super flat. Another friend of mine also had a logo Toy Machine deck that was a pretty strange shape. Goin' for something different over there I guess. Or taking whatever the factory gives them.
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Not that anyone cares but my bad to the dude that I told SOVRN was PS Stix. Now that Ive finally stepped on one it is definitey Generator
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Oh boy....your guess is as good as mine at this point.....does it have the round sticker like BBS?
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so are Traffic still chap or are they not ne more because of TOA
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anyone has info about where antiz and frank boards are pressed?
skated my antiz several times in the rain and it's still great.
Antiz and Frank are made in a German factory called Medicin/MDCN.
Not sure who else does boards there.
Quality is ok but not Generator.
Hello Giza
That is just totally Wrong.
So please don't spread information you don't have.
Thanks
THE ANTIZ FAM
Dear Antiz Fam,
Would be nice if you could let us know where your boards are made then.
Cheers,
Eds_gallerist
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Morning Bell (smaller company out of Canada) use South Central if you want to add them to the list. Lots of local shops carry them up here, nice way to try out South Central wood in Canada for those interested. They use the standard concave as far as I can tell.
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This is confusing, brands don’t use their own woodshops.
These pages are on some Illuminati shit, skate industry is run by 4 wood companies?
I’ve never heard of this before and I was in the industry for awhile mostly on the soft goods side.
Who really owns these wood shops Nike and the globalists?
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Who really owns these wood shops Nike and the globalists?
Nailed it.
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I remember on one of the older Woodshop threads somebody from Antiz was bitching about all the secrecy regarding their factory, same thing on this one.
I don't know why is such an issue about telling were the fuck you get your boards, is kinda a dick move like not telling where a skate spot is because is "yours" and you don't want anybody else skating it.
Fuck Antiz.
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Anyone have a Lovesick board before? How is the shape and concave?
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Wake up and smell the affiliation
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I remember on one of the older Woodshop threads somebody from Antiz was bitching about all the secrecy regarding their factory, same thing on this one.
I don't why such a issue about telling were the fuck you get your boards, is kinda a dick move like not telling where a skate spot is because is "yours" and you don't want anybody else skating it.
Fuck Antiz.
Considered getting on as they offer the dimensions I like. Not anymore now, what is this secrecy bullshit?
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The secrecy stems from attempting to remain exclusive. Like the shop alva uses
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Anyone know who does Transportation Unit?
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TU is and has always been ps Stix
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TU is and has always been ps Stix
Thanks!
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The secrecy stems from attempting to remain exclusive. Like the shop alva uses
I get that. But it's not like everyone's praising the wood Antiz is using. So I'd rather assume they don't want to give away their woodshop for other reasons.
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The secrecy stems from attempting to remain exclusive. Like the shop alva uses
I get that. But it's not like everyone's praising the wood Antiz is using. So I'd rather assume they don't want to give away their woodshop for other reasons.
Can't think of anything besides being douches.
btw, anybody knows about Poetic?
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Been thinking of getting a Plan B pro board if I order it in England will it be PS or China?
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If you're going to your local you can read on top actually.
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I’m confused about one thing. Is BBS wood the same as generator? And is DLX wood different or the same as the rest of BBS/Generator?
BBS/Bareback is the wood shop in Tijuana that presses the boards. Generator Distribution, which is in Oceanside distributes those boards to the brands. DLX is the same quality wood as the rest but they seem to have a bit more pull regarding custom shapes and measurements compared to other brands pressed there.
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Anyone have a Lovesick board before? How is the shape and concave?
Had a couple, an 8.38" and an 8.25". The shapes varied a lot. One had a large full nose with a shorter tail and the other a more standard tail and a shorter more tapered off nose. The concave on both felt sort of medium/steep but comfortable to me. Both had 14.25" wheel bases but the short tailed board felt really heavy with Thunders so I had to switch to Indy's on it. BBS wood so they held up well. I'm not sure if they stick to the same shapes or change it up with each run or not. They responded to me right away on instagram though when I had board dimension questions. Hope that helps!
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Colony is South Central if you want to add them to the list. Just set one up and really liking how sturdy it feels.
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Polar seems to have some seriously nice shapes.
Should be as good as Real boards, in terms of quality?
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Polar boards always last a while.
Got a new FA deck '1984' gloss silver 8.25 with 14.125 WB. Definitely Generator wood with a black and white "made in Mexico' sticker and no cereal number.
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Polar boards always last a while.
Got a new FA deck '1984' gloss silver 8.25 with 14.125 WB. Definitely Generator wood with a black and white "made in Mexico' sticker and no cereal number.
Compared to what?
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Polar boards always last a while.
Got a new FA deck '1984' gloss silver 8.25 with 14.125 WB. Definitely Generator wood with a black and white "made in Mexico' sticker and no cereal number.
Compared to what?
I think compared to most brands. Just bought one. It looks really good and can’t wait to use it.
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But Polar is made by same woodshop as Real. Then they should be equal?
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Not inherently. Generator could use the same type of wood, but they could use better sheets, press fewer at a time, etc.
I don't think any of the big brands are gunna be that much different from one another unless they have a specific shape/mold that they own.
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Is there any shape guide in regards to Polar? I'd like something with very blunt nose & tail, like Real Full shape.
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Is there any shape guide in regards to Polar? I'd like something with very blunt nose & tail, like Real Full shape.
They have like classic popsicle shape + sth called p2 (squared nose like Hockey) and the 1991 and 1992 shapes. I had like 5 and love them all.
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Is there any shape guide in regards to Polar? I'd like something with very blunt nose & tail, like Real Full shape.
Polar’s website has all the info you’ll need, hope other companies would do that too...
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Is there any shape guide in regards to Polar? I'd like something with very blunt nose & tail, like Real Full shape.
polar does that shape. I have a Oskar board and it’s pretty blunt. It’s an 8 and it’s beautiful.
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I have been digging South Central wood since I skated a 5 Boro deck for a month, which is a record for me because they are so strong. I actually had to switch it because it was worn out, I never actually snapped it, and this has only happened to me before with Powell Flight Decks and Almost Impact Light Decks.
My question is that are ALL boards that use South Central made from the same wood? I was looking into Bacon Skateboards and they have decks for $45 and others for $50 and was wondering if the cheaper one was made with price point type of inferior wood.
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I have been digging South Central wood since I skated a 5 Boro deck for a month, which is a record for me because they are so strong. I actually had to switch it because it was worn out, I never actually snapped it, and this has only happened to me before with Powell Flight Decks and Almost Impact Light Decks.
My question is that are ALL boards that use South Central made from the same wood? I was looking into Bacon Skateboards and they have decks for $45 and others for $50 and was wondering if the cheaper one was made with price point type of inferior wood.
I'm on my second Threads board in a row right now and have to say the South Central wood and shapes are PERFECT. Both have been 8" but my second one is apparently a custom request from our shop owner that is identical to the other shape but has a slightly more square nose. It's even better.
Also I'm not sure if Threads is too small an operation to add but they could be added to South Central on the list.
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I have been digging South Central wood since I skated a 5 Boro deck for a month, which is a record for me because they are so strong. I actually had to switch it because it was worn out, I never actually snapped it, and this has only happened to me before with Powell Flight Decks and Almost Impact Light Decks.
My question is that are ALL boards that use South Central made from the same wood? I was looking into Bacon Skateboards and they have decks for $45 and others for $50 and was wondering if the cheaper one was made with price point type of inferior wood.
I’m riding a Bacon now that I got for $40 or so and its the same as the other South central decks I’ve had. (DOA and Politic). Steep concave, nose and tail which I love and the deck is lasting longer than a lot of the other decks I’ve ridden. I can’t say for sure, but I don’t think a smaller company like Bacon has separate price point decks with cheaper wood. I would guess that all of their decks are the same quality from SC. Could be wring though
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Am I crazy in that is all 5boro SC? Is any China?
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Am I crazy in that is all 5boro SC? Is any China?
The new ones are SC (2018 and later), but I have this: https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTMi4FLCFDVBZQXWgO1nYbAG4Gkgk3EsOR6AV8FEnWFiRxO1aza2A
reflective Logo Board and it is no SC, much thiker and heavier compared to my other SC 5Boros.
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Would any pals happen to know who presses Consolidated Skateboards?
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The new ones are SC (2018 and later), but I have this: https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTMi4FLCFDVBZQXWgO1nYbAG4Gkgk3EsOR6AV8FEnWFiRxO1aza2A
reflective Logo Board and it is no SC, much thiker and heavier compared to my other SC 5Boros.
I skated a bunch of old northern co and politic boards and the 5boro boards don't seem similar. They look more like girl decks.
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The new ones are SC (2018 and later), but I have this: https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTMi4FLCFDVBZQXWgO1nYbAG4Gkgk3EsOR6AV8FEnWFiRxO1aza2A
reflective Logo Board and it is no SC, much thiker and heavier compared to my other SC 5Boros.
I skated a bunch of old northern co and politic boards and the 5boro boards don't seem similar. They look more like girl decks.
Confirmed SC on Instagram.
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How is the Palace/DSM wood quality and general shapes/concave?
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How is the Palace/DSM wood quality and general shapes/concave?
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Burning hot trash
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How is the Palace/DSM wood quality and general shapes/concave?
really really bad, their riders are constantly breaking boards
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Someone try the wood over mdcn in germany? They make a lot of brands in europe,some years ago they made for polarr
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Someone try the wood over mdcn in germany? They make a lot of brands in europe,some years ago they made for polarr
As somewhere stated before, I highly doubt they press decks, I am also unsure if they even put the heat tranfser on the Chinesee wood in Germany.
These ones are made in Germany: https://egal-skateboards.de/shop-2/ and https://www.facebook.com/Own-Skateboards-192512654091/ (Willow rides for them).
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How is the Palace/DSM wood quality and general shapes/concave?
I’m skating a Creature board now and I love the shape. It’s an 8.375 x 32.2 with a 14.5 wheelbase, fairly fat nose. Medium concave. Got another one lined up that’s pretty much exactly the same shape except it’s 32 long. I don’t really do the kind of stuff that breaks boards, so I don’t know about that side of things. I definitely prefer this board to the PS Stix I had before.
I have an 8.375 Killing Floor deck and a Polar football coming in the mail, last time I tried a BBS/Generator board was before I knew about this stuff.
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Does anyone know who presses Death decks? They have a big tiddy goth girl graphic that caught my eye
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I’m skating a Creature board now and I love the shape. It’s an 8.375 x 32.2 with a 14.5 wheelbase, fairly fat nose. Medium concave. Got another one lined up that’s pretty much exactly the same shape except it’s 32 long. I don’t really do the kind of stuff that breaks boards, so I don’t know about that side of things. I definitely prefer this board to the PS Stix I had before.
I have an 8.375 Killing Floor deck and a Polar football coming in the mail, last time I tried a BBS/Generator board was before I knew about this stuff.
I’ve been skating a lot of Evisen boards lately and I love them. To me, they are noticeably stiffer than bbs/SC/ps stix (perhaps tied with pennswood). They also seem to stay stiffer longer.
I had just assumed they would have been garbage since dwindle is a bit lame nowadays and because they are made in China, but was pleasantly surprised.
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I’m skating a Creature board now and I love the shape. It’s an 8.375 x 32.2 with a 14.5 wheelbase, fairly fat nose. Medium concave. Got another one lined up that’s pretty much exactly the same shape except it’s 32 long. I don’t really do the kind of stuff that breaks boards, so I don’t know about that side of things. I definitely prefer this board to the PS Stix I had before.
I have an 8.375 Killing Floor deck and a Polar football coming in the mail, last time I tried a BBS/Generator board was before I knew about this stuff.
I want to get a creature deck cause I’m really backing the creature team but the wheel bases are all 14.5 and I just got thunders and that would make it too much for me
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The secrecy stems from attempting to remain exclusive. Like the shop alva uses
99% sure alva is watson
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I’m skating a Creature board now and I love the shape. It’s an 8.375 x 32.2 with a 14.5 wheelbase, fairly fat nose. Medium concave. Got another one lined up that’s pretty much exactly the same shape except it’s 32 long. I don’t really do the kind of stuff that breaks boards, so I don’t know about that side of things. I definitely prefer this board to the PS Stix I had before.
I have an 8.375 Killing Floor deck and a Polar football coming in the mail, last time I tried a BBS/Generator board was before I knew about this stuff.
I want to get a creature deck cause I’m really backing the creature team but the wheel bases are all 14.5 and I just got thunders and that would make it too much for me
I love their team and graphics but I have to say I wasn't particularly impressed with my creature deck. Not that its bad, it was just a little softer and heavier than I prefer and it seemed to lose its pop fairly quick (although I did beat the shit out of it). When I got an AH deck it really stood out to me how snappy and crisp it felt compared to the creature I'd been skating. Could have just been that deck, but I'm thinking of picking up another DLX deck now.
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I had a Creature "hard rock maple" and it was the worst piece of shit I've ever skated in my life.
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I had a Creature "hard rock maple" and it was the worst piece of shit I've ever skated in my life.
Yeah it's really kind of a shame that dwindle wood isnt great because Creature are definitely my favorite of the "big" brands in terms of graphics and team riders, although anti hero is close. If I could get creature decks pressed on generator wood with DLX shapes I don't think I'd buy much of anything else ever again. The first couple sessions on Creature boards are good but then they just sort of feel soft/sluggish and inconsistent whereas most generator decks I've skated seem to have a light, snappy , floaty feel that I barely even have to flick to get proper rotation out of.
Does anyone know where Wounded Knee, Death, and Vagrant are pressed? They all have some interesting graphics and I dig the whole Wounded Knee mythology and mission.
Edit: Wounded Knee is Chapman. Found the answer myself 30 seconds after posting the question. Still looking for Death and Vagrant
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The NHS boards I've stood on felt stiff...that's the one thing I've noticed.
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I had two Studio 8.25" boards and they were the best boards I ever had.
I know they are made by Control, but do you guys know how could I have more details on the shape ?
Unfortunately I don't have the boards anymore so I can't measure them myself...
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I don't but you might want to track down a Jenny board if you can...same wood......for now....but likely will change. I think too if you poke around online there's a shop or two that has one.
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pretty sure all fa/hockey is now generator?
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I had a Creature "hard rock maple" and it was the worst piece of shit I've ever skated in my life.
The reason the “Hard Rock Maple” are shit is because they use cheaper wood. Notice the word “Canadian” is not part of the name. It’s shitty price point wood. Only good thing is that they are very stiff at first but they break easily
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pretty sure all fa/hockey is now generator?
Yooooo
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pretty sure all fa/hockey is now generator?
Sick. I did like the smaller ps stix effect. It’s also harder to find bbs boards that have 14” wb. Or maybe I’m wrong there.
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This one would be from the "improved workshop"?
Btw the new wood from comes from?
(https://i.imgur.com/r5FTbmSl.png)
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I think the understanding is that its still the same, excel (Chinese factory) they just improved their production quality
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They infuse it with Tud Nugent...it's the worst....
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I think honey island is being facetious. I am staring at an Ave board from the new drop that's ps Stix goddamit. This is a very serious matter bro.
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Ted Nugent if he could view himself in third person and meet Ted Nugent, would think Ted Nugent is a total dipshit.
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I think honey island is being facetious. I am staring at an Ave board from the new drop that's ps Stix goddamit. This is a very serious matter bro.
weird. i just got 3 different boards from the new drop, and they are all generator 😭
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I think honey island is being facetious. I am staring at an Ave board from the new drop that's ps Stix goddamit. This is a very serious matter bro.
weird. i just got 3 different boards from the new drop, and they are all generator 😭
What even is skateboarding these days
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pretty sure all fa/hockey is now generator?
pretty sure they are. I had an 8.0” hockey about 2-3 years ago, and the length,concave etc was much different than the 8.0” FA I’m riding right now. this boards nose is fucking crazy. It works for me because I skate my boards backwards, but it still just looks crazy. I prefer the bbs ones.
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I think honey island is being facetious. I am staring at an Ave board from the new drop that's ps Stix goddamit. This is a very serious matter bro.
Last thee Hockey boards I scooped up (Kosovo, Fitzgerald Cut, and Piscopo Snake) were all Generator. Much prefer them to the older PS Stix decks. Which new Ave deck was PS Stix? Gotta know.
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Any idea about Poetic? My guessing would be bbs
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Yeah I prefer the generator ones too. Some of the ps ones were absolutely insane shapes with steep kicks and tiny nose and tails. But the 8.5x33 ps Stix shape some of the Fitz boards are on is amazing. It's only amazing precisely for two weeks, half that time if you are doing disasters or coping shit. Then it's a square flexy noodle.
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I have the new FA deck that is silver with a Terminator on it. No PS serial number, just a single dot indentation.
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I have the new FA deck that is silver with a Terminator on it. No PS serial number, just a single dot indentation.
Yeah dat ones gen and it had a black warning sticker stuck on the nose?
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I came to find out the name of the shape I like: South Central’s 8” D. It has a flatter nose and perfect concave and WB for my liking. My skate shop (Comfort) uses SC as does Threads.
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I came to find out the name of the shape I like: South Central’s 8” D. It has a flatter nose and perfect concave and WB for my liking. My skate shop (Comfort) uses SC as does Threads.
Pray tell the wb, length and such dear human?
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I came to find out the name of the shape I like: South Central’s 8” D. It has a flatter nose and perfect concave and WB for my liking. My skate shop (Comfort) uses SC as does Threads.
That must be the mold they used for the Politic Quim I got. The flat nose was too weird for me though and I took it off right away. It was 8.375. The flat nose zapped my pop. I gotta find someone to buy that board.
Also - I just had a look at a shop and 5Boro is indeed South Central now. Didn't have an 8.25 to check out unfortunately.
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This ps/ gen deal for hockey and FA is hard to follow. Is it just supply and demand, they can't get them all pressed in one location?
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I came to find out the name of the shape I like: South Central’s 8” D. It has a flatter nose and perfect concave and WB for my liking. My skate shop (Comfort) uses SC as does Threads.
That must be the mold they used for the Politic Quim I got. The flat nose was too weird for me though and I took it off right away. It was 8.375. The flat nose zapped my pop. I gotta find someone to buy that board.
Also - I just had a look at a shop and 5Boro is indeed South Central now. Didn't have an 8.25 to check out unfortunately.
Re: 5 Boro. The rad rad rad rad Jordan Trahan vhs graphic I picked up felt like a girl board. Not science. I should have grabbed it.
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I don’t know if this has been mentioned in any wood shop threads but I just got a bbs made element and it actually had a laser etch that said made by bbs with every measurement underneath
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I don’t know if this has been mentioned in any wood shop threads but I just got a bbs made element and it actually had a laser etch that said made by bbs with every measurement underneath
Only other BBS/Generator deck I've seen with this are AWS from the last couple years. Seems like it's an option at BBS but few brands go for it.
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I need help, I’ve been eyeing this 8.5” scumco & sons board, it is dirt cheap online but I can’t find it’s wheelbase mentioned anywhere... If it’s under 14.38 I’m gonna cop it.(https://images.app.goo.gl/EysTCN1PSz4SqRHC7)
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I need help, I’ve been eyeing this 8.5” scumco & sons board, it is dirt cheap online but I can’t find it’s wheelbase mentioned anywhere... If it’s under 14.38 I’m gonna cop it.(https://images.app.goo.gl/EysTCN1PSz4SqRHC7)
Where are you looking to buy it from? Be careful of places like concrete lodge that list scumco decks that they don't actually have in stock. They'll take your money and ignore you for months and hope you don't cancel the transaction with your cc company/PayPal.
I think scumco 8.5s are usually a 14/14.25 wb so you're probably safe but I'd email the site to make sure it's actually in stocks and check reviews to see if the site is legit before sending them money. If it seems too good to be true than it usually is.
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I need help, I’ve been eyeing this 8.5” scumco & sons board, it is dirt cheap online but I can’t find it’s wheelbase mentioned anywhere... If it’s under 14.38 I’m gonna cop it.(https://images.app.goo.gl/EysTCN1PSz4SqRHC7)
Where are you looking to buy it from? Be careful of places like concrete lodge that list scumco decks that they don't actually have in stock. They'll take your money and ignore you for months and hope you don't cancel the transaction with your cc company/PayPal.
I think scumco 8.5s are usually a 14/14.25 wb so you're probably safe but I'd email the site to make sure it's actually in stocks and check reviews to see if the site is legit before sending them money. If it seems too good to be true than it usually is.
Nah it’s this one swedish web store that I’ve used many times before without any problems. Think I’m gonna cop that board now🤔
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I need help, I’ve been eyeing this 8.5” scumco & sons board, it is dirt cheap online but I can’t find it’s wheelbase mentioned anywhere... If it’s under 14.38 I’m gonna cop it.(https://images.app.goo.gl/EysTCN1PSz4SqRHC7)
Where are you looking to buy it from? Be careful of places like concrete lodge that list scumco decks that they don't actually have in stock. They'll take your money and ignore you for months and hope you don't cancel the transaction with your cc company/PayPal.
I think scumco 8.5s are usually a 14/14.25 wb so you're probably safe but I'd email the site to make sure it's actually in stocks and check reviews to see if the site is legit before sending them money. If it seems too good to be true than it usually is.
Oh that's sick then that graphic looks amazing in person, that and the soviet propaganda deck are two of the best looking scumco decks in my opinion. If you've never had one before you're in for a treat. Enjoy.
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I need help, I’ve been eyeing this 8.5” scumco & sons board, it is dirt cheap online but I can’t find it’s wheelbase mentioned anywhere... If it’s under 14.38 I’m gonna cop it.(https://images.app.goo.gl/EysTCN1PSz4SqRHC7)
Where are you looking to buy it from? Be careful of places like concrete lodge that list scumco decks that they don't actually have in stock. They'll take your money and ignore you for months and hope you don't cancel the transaction with your cc company/PayPal.
I think scumco 8.5s are usually a 14/14.25 wb so you're probably safe but I'd email the site to make sure it's actually in stocks and check reviews to see if the site is legit before sending them money. If it seems too good to be true than it usually is.
Oh that's sick then that graphic looks amazing in person, that and the soviet propaganda deck are two of the best looking scumco decks in my opinion. If you've never had one before you're in for a treat. Enjoy.
I just got a scumco, 8”. So hyped on the shape and kiddie pool. Really really wish it was 14 wb. Or something. It’s just been one of those boards that I just don’t get along with and I know it’s me and not the board.
Love that company.
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I just got a scumco, 8”. So hyped on the shape and kiddie pool. Really really wish it was 14 wb. Or something. It’s just been one of those boards that I just don’t get along with and I know it’s me and not the board.
Love that company.
What WB is it? I've never had one of their 8's but I guess I just assumed they did 14wb on those since my old 8.25 was 14 1/4 I believe. And yeah that company is sick - super creative one-man marketing agency, solid team, great sense of humor, and an emphasis on high quality decks - they make us yinzers proud.
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I need help, I’ve been eyeing this 8.5” scumco & sons board, it is dirt cheap online but I can’t find it’s wheelbase mentioned anywhere... If it’s under 14.38 I’m gonna cop it.(https://images.app.goo.gl/EysTCN1PSz4SqRHC7)
Where are you looking to buy it from? Be careful of places like concrete lodge that list scumco decks that they don't actually have in stock. They'll take your money and ignore you for months and hope you don't cancel the transaction with your cc company/PayPal.
I think scumco 8.5s are usually a 14/14.25 wb so you're probably safe but I'd email the site to make sure it's actually in stocks and check reviews to see if the site is legit before sending them money. If it seems too good to be true than it usually is.
Oh that's sick then that graphic looks amazing in person, that and the soviet propaganda deck are two of the best looking scumco decks in my opinion. If you've never had one before you're in for a treat. Enjoy.
I just got a scumco, 8”. So hyped on the shape and kiddie pool. Really really wish it was 14 wb. Or something. It’s just been one of those boards that I just don’t get along with and I know it’s me and not the board.
Love that company.
It took me a bit to get used to their Kiddie pool concave too in the smaller sizes (like the eight) because they usually have shorter wheel bases and a bigger bit of flat between the bolt holes and where the tail/nose start to angle up. So even though the kicks look reasonably steep, they don’t feel as much like it when popping tricks because of that bit of flat. I was used to the Deep dish concave which has similarly angled kicks, but almost none of that flat part, so they pop differently. So at first I hated the feel of the Kiddie pool decks but when I tried them again recently I ended up really liking them. I just had to adjust the way I was skating a bit.
Their Silver spoon concave is pretty interesting. The tail and nose kind of curve up, rather than clearly angling up like most decks. Haven’t seen that anywhere else but I like the way those feel a lot.
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I came to find out the name of the shape I like: South Central’s 8” D. It has a flatter nose and perfect concave and WB for my liking. My skate shop (Comfort) uses SC as does Threads.
Pray tell the wb, length and such dear human?
14 1/4 I believe. I think thats the WB I always rock. I can't go up or down on that.
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Mine is 14.25, and we just don’t vibe. I’m gonna buy more of they stuff tho. As people have mentioned they are quality goods/people. It’s kind of hard to find their stuff, and then they don’t list everything measurement wise. I’m going to get the 8” Ty Beal eventually, even tho it’s the steep concave, it seems to be the only one that had the 14” wb.
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Their Silver spoon concave is pretty interesting. The tail and nose kind of curve up, rather than clearly angling up like most decks. Haven’t seen that anywhere else but I like the way those feel a lot.
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The silver spoon concave is what Pennswood calls their matador concave.
Apparently their summer 2019 drop is being pressed by Control. I am looking for a new deck so I may pick up the current Kevin Taylor model because I love the way Pennswood decks feel. Scumco is a great company and has responded to me within one day on several occasions when I reached out to them about technical specs. I will continue to support them no matter what woodshop happens to be pressing their decks because I am certain that they will always put out a fantastic product. They are only an hour from where I live so it is nice to be able to support a truly local skate company.
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Their Silver spoon concave is pretty interesting. The tail and nose kind of curve up, rather than clearly angling up like most decks. Haven’t seen that anywhere else but I like the way those feel a lot.
The silver spoon concave is what Pennswood calls their matador concave.
Apparently their summer 2019 drop is being pressed by Control. I am looking for a new deck so I may pick up the current Kevin Taylor model because I love the way Pennswood decks feel. Scumco is a great company and has responded to me within one day on several occasions when I reached out to them about technical specs. I will continue to support them no matter what woodshop happens to be pressing their decks because I am certain that they will always put out a fantastic product. They are only an hour from where I live so it is nice to be able to support a truly local skate company.
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Shit like this is rad to hear re: them answering tech questions.
I was/am hyped on the pennswood boards cuz USA made is always cool. I have some hi-tek boards, pressed by control. I really like the way they feel. Dimensions are really well thought out, and the wood let’s out that ‘crrrrrraaack!’ Sound when popping. Not sure who else uses control, surprised more don’t. Will just get more hi-teks in the future, always like to switch it up tho.
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The silver spoon concave is what Pennswood calls their matador concave.
Apparently their summer 2019 drop is being pressed by Control. I am looking for a new deck so I may pick up the current Kevin Taylor model because I love the way Pennswood decks feel. Scumco is a great company and has responded to me within one day on several occasions when I reached out to them about technical specs. I will continue to support them no matter what woodshop happens to be pressing their decks because I am certain that they will always put out a fantastic product. They are only an hour from where I live so it is nice to be able to support a truly local skate company.
Pennswood decks are awesome. I got a batch made by them of the Matador, Standard and Deep concaves for myself since I liked the Scumco and Terror of Planet X (they use primarily the Matador concave I think) decks so much and besides the shapes being awesome, their veneer work is amazing!
I didn’t know Scumco was switching to Control for this batch. I’m curious if they will do multiple concaves with them too, or just keep it standard.
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So I received my scumco board, it’s on deep dish concave and man that really is STEEP! 8.5” w/ 14” WB is as dreamy as it can get🤤
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So I received my scumco board, it’s on deep dish concave and man that really is STEEP! 8.5” w/ 14” WB is as dreamy as it can get🤤
Yeah, I think they (Pennswood/Scumco) make the deepest concaves I’ve seen around. South Central has a solid deep concave too
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So I received my scumco board, it’s on deep dish concave and man that really is STEEP! 8.5” w/ 14” WB is as dreamy as it can get🤤
Yeah, I think they (Pennswood/Scumco) make the deepest concaves I’ve seen around. South Central has a solid deep concave too
I’ve always err’d, in general, but also towards flat. Because I try different set ups, radically, often, flat can be more consistent for me. And flip tricks need to be more intentional/ slightly exaggerated on a flat board. When I was better (mystical/mythical time, much exaggerated by the wistful thinking of an old man) shit just sorta happened. Which is kind of how dramatically concaved boards react for me. You just kinda throw something out and it happens really easily. Or not at all. In summary, I will now begin to furiously look up concaved boards.
What do you like about that specific concave? The 8.5 14” wb sounds awesome. How long is it? (Hard to find scumco in general, harder to find full measurements). I do remember a flatter board skating ‘bigger’ than a concaved board, but that could be, per always, very false.
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So I received my scumco board, it’s on deep dish concave and man that really is STEEP! 8.5” w/ 14” WB is as dreamy as it can get🤤
Yeah, I think they (Pennswood/Scumco) make the deepest concaves I’ve seen around. South Central has a solid deep concave too
I’ve always err’d, in general, but also towards flat. Because I try different set ups, radically, often, flat can be more consistent for me. And flip tricks need to be more intentional/ slightly exaggerated on a flat board. When I was better (mystical/mythical time, much exaggerated by the wistful thinking of an old man) shit just sorta happened. Which is kind of how dramatically concaved boards react for me. You just kinda throw something out and it happens really easily. Or not at all. In summary, I will now begin to furiously look up concaved boards.
What do you like about that specific concave? The 8.5 14” wb sounds awesome. How long is it? (Hard to find scumco in general, harder to find full measurements). I do remember a flatter board skating ‘bigger’ than a concaved board, but that could be, per always, very false.
For me, I like the deeper concaves because of the reason you listed (less deliberate effort to do flip tricks) and because I feel more locked in when I’m doing my tricks, like I have more of a hold on the deck with my feet. Plus, it feels more comfortable for me when I’m cruising around the city. I usually do a bigger set up (wide with bigger wheels) with deeper concave for when I want to cruise through the city and hit random spots and then I ride a a smaller, flatter (the kiddie pool concave on Scumco boards aka “standard” Pennswood concave) set up with small wheels when I know I’m going to be staying at one spot for a while and want to try to learn more technical stuff.
Overall I prefer the feel of the deeper concaves, especially in wider sizes (8.25-8.75), and ride those more often but when I’m going through my phases where I’m obsessed with trying more technical stuff it seems much easier on those smaller and flatter set ups.
The Deep concave Pennswood decks I ride now (the ones i got made)are 31.5-32 long, and vary from 8-8.5 wide which, iirc, were the same dimensions as the Scumcos I ride but the South central (Bacon skateboards) I just got done with was 8.75 and 32.5 long. I think
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and the wood let’s out that ‘crrrrrraaack!’ Sound when popping.
Oooh. Love that.
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Their Silver spoon concave is pretty interesting. The tail and nose kind of curve up, rather than clearly angling up like most decks. Haven’t seen that anywhere else but I like the way those feel a lot.
The silver spoon concave is what Pennswood calls their matador concave.
Apparently their summer 2019 drop is being pressed by Control. I am looking for a new deck so I may pick up the current Kevin Taylor model because I love the way Pennswood decks feel. Scumco is a great company and has responded to me within one day on several occasions when I reached out to them about technical specs. I will continue to support them no matter what woodshop happens to be pressing their decks because I am certain that they will always put out a fantastic product. They are only an hour from where I live so it is nice to be able to support a truly local skate company.
Shit like this is rad to hear re: them answering tech questions.
I was/am hyped on the pennswood boards cuz USA made is always cool. I have some hi-tek boards, pressed by control. I really like the way they feel. Dimensions are really well thought out, and the wood let’s out that ‘crrrrrraaack!’ Sound when popping. Not sure who else uses control, surprised more don’t. Will just get more hi-teks in the future, always like to switch it up tho.
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There's some other smaller Pittsburgh companies putting sweet PW decks right now. Play skateboards is owned by a guy from my home town and they have some cool shit, I had my eye on the Ed Gein deck last time I went to the shop. I'm actually shopping for an 8"-ish deck right now and I'm torn between that, the Scumco KT soldier deck, and this Lurkville deck. (http://cdn.companybe.com/cowtown/product_photos/rd_images/rd_lurkville-skateboards-militant-deck.jpg)
Regarding ScumCo being awesome in general, I ordered a sticker pack and he mailed it in a regular old fashioned envelope with stamps and my address handwritten on it. It was sort of like getting a letter from a friend (for those of you old enough to remember what that was like) and it made me so nostalgic I'm seriously considering writing a thank you letter back. I also discovered from the return address that he lives less than a mile from me, in the neighborhood that borders mine. It was just a nice, personal touch that you don't get to experience very often these days and it made me love ScumCo even more than I did before. The stickers are fucking sick too.
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I don’t know that anyone cares, but, Revive and 3Block get their boards made through Clutch.
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I don’t know that anyone cares, but, Revive and 3Block get their boards made through Clutch.
Actually, I am sure some people do care. I was curious about who pressed their boards. My friend just bought a 3 block deck, although I haven’t had a chance to skate it yet.
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I don’t know that anyone cares, but, Revive and 3Block get their boards made through Clutch.
Actually, I am sure some people do care. I was curious about who pressed their boards. My friend just bought a 3 block deck, although I haven’t had a chance to skate it yet.
I follow Clutch on Insta and it looks like Friendship and those Maher crew guys also got their decks made through them.
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I had a run of decks through Clutch a few years ago. Their wood is decent and they have a ton of shapes. I think I was a fan of the C shape
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Not a wood shop question, exactly: many companies are being pressed at few places. Many companies do not publish their dimensions, whilst obviously some that are pressed in the same places, do. I’ve been trying to find out wb/lengths, as those 2 measurements have more impact on what’s fun for me (14”/sub 32”). Anyone have any idea on how proprietary shapes are? I jumped on the homies alltimers board, really ready to hate. Too big, long, concaved, it felt awesome. Can’t find their sizing anywhere. Was also trying to track down scumco sizing. Ended up getting a girl board cuz i could see the sizing and didn’t have to embarrassingly ask for a tape measure.
I search 35th, SPOT, and SoCal for measurements. Any other sites folks have found that have decent info? Please and thanks
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Not a wood shop question, exactly: many companies are being pressed at few places. Many companies do not publish their dimensions, whilst obviously some that are pressed in the same places, do. I’ve been trying to find out wb/lengths, as those 2 measurements have more impact on what’s fun for me (14”/sub 32”). Anyone have any idea on how proprietary shapes are? I jumped on the homies alltimers board, really ready to hate. Too big, long, concaved, it felt awesome. Can’t find their sizing anywhere. Was also trying to track down scumco sizing. Ended up getting a girl board cuz i could see the sizing and didn’t have to embarrassingly ask for a tape measure.
I search 35th, SPOT, and SoCal for measurements. Any other sites folks have found that have decent info? Please and thanks
Skatedeluxe has measurements
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Not a wood shop question, exactly: many companies are being pressed at few places. Many companies do not publish their dimensions, whilst obviously some that are pressed in the same places, do. I’ve been trying to find out wb/lengths, as those 2 measurements have more impact on what’s fun for me (14”/sub 32”). Anyone have any idea on how proprietary shapes are? I jumped on the homies alltimers board, really ready to hate. Too big, long, concaved, it felt awesome. Can’t find their sizing anywhere. Was also trying to track down scumco sizing. Ended up getting a girl board cuz i could see the sizing and didn’t have to embarrassingly ask for a tape measure.
I search 35th, SPOT, and SoCal for measurements. Any other sites folks have found that have decent info? Please and thanks
Thanks!
Someone posted this Euro (I think?) site and they even measured across the truck mounting holes, imo a MUCH more important measurement than ‘width’. Can’t remember it tho
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Was wondering if anyone knows what wood shop that CCS, Tactics and Skate Warehouse use on their blanks/ website brand decks.
I’ve reached out and either never heard back or was told they couldn’t disclose that information.
If they come from a good wood shop then these decks sound like a good option considering price. I just personally don’t wanna pull the trigger on it if I don’t know what the wood is because if it’s shit it will be done in less than a week as I break boards (especially cheap ones) pretty easily.
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Was wondering if anyone knows what wood shop that CCS, Tactics and Skate Warehouse use on their blanks/ website brand decks.
I’ve reached out and either never heard back or was told they couldn’t disclose that information.
If they come from a good wood shop then these decks sound like a good option considering price. I just personally don’t wanna pull the trigger on it if I don’t know what the wood is because if it’s shit it will be done in less than a week as I break boards (especially cheap ones) pretty easily.
Tactics = BBS
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I'm sorry to hear you now know about wheelbase.......
the baptism of madness
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The only BBS decks they had was the collab with tactics and Real.. they wouldn’t tell me who presses their shop decks
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Was wondering if anyone knows what wood shop that CCS, Tactics and Skate Warehouse use on their blanks/ website brand decks.
I’ve reached out and either never heard back or was told they couldn’t disclose that information.
If they come from a good wood shop then these decks sound like a good option considering price. I just personally don’t wanna pull the trigger on it if I don’t know what the wood is because if it’s shit it will be done in less than a week as I break boards (especially cheap ones) pretty easily.
Tactics = BBS
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And I’m sure if they went through a good wood shop they probably wouldn’t mind letting their customers know
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The only BBS decks they had was the collab with tactics and Real.. they wouldn’t tell me who presses their shop decks
One of their shops is 300 feet from my office. It has been told to me in person by one of the guys who has designed some of their graphics.
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Hahaha. You all ain’t wrong. I’m for sure full kook mode.
I’m always prone to jumping on a different board and loving if for a day. I have noticed that the boards I’ve liked over the last few years all shares one similarity: 14”wb. I will, no doubt, be back here to say the opposite soon.
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The only BBS decks they had was the collab with tactics and Real.. they wouldn’t tell me who presses their shop decks
One of their shops is 300 feet from my office. It has been told to me in person by one of the guys who has designed some of their graphics.
Maybe they don’t want to lose any faith with board brands by advertising that their “shop” decks are the same as _______.
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Skatedeluxe has measurements
I wouldn’t go too heavily on that sites info, I just looked up three boards that are the same specs and they were all listed differently, from length to wheelbase. I went and measured a few I have on the same shape and got the same sizing from each board
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The only BBS decks they had was the collab with tactics and Real.. they wouldn’t tell me who presses their shop decks
One of their shops is 300 feet from my office. It has been told to me in person by one of the guys who has designed some of their graphics.
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the baptism of madness
Hahaha. You all ain’t wrong. I’m for sure full kook mode.
I’m always prone to jumping on a different board and loving if for a day. I have noticed that the boards I’ve liked over the last few years all shares one similarity: 14”wb. I will, no doubt, be back here to say the opposite soon.
Generator/BBS all tend to have longer wheelbases which will inevitably drive you koo....koo....
The Alltimers lay up is pretty standard no? Similar to Sour/Isle/Magenta, mellowish, minimal gap, with medium kicks.....
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I'm sorry to hear you now know about wheelbase.......
the baptism of madness
Hahaha. You all ain’t wrong. I’m for sure full kook mode.
I’m always prone to jumping on a different board and loving if for a day. I have noticed that the boards I’ve liked over the last few years all shares one similarity: 14”wb. I will, no doubt, be back here to say the opposite soon.
Generator/BBS all tend to have longer wheelbases which will inevitably drive you koo....koo....
The Alltimers lay up is pretty standard no? Similar to Sour/Isle/Magenta, mellowish, minimal gap, with medium kicks.....
You, my dear, are very very correct: the tyranny of 14.25....a functional measurement to be sure, but for me, this month, it feels....meh. Just mediocre. The alltimers they I hopped on had a little bit of a rounded shape, some concave. It was almost made in a factory of things I don’t like: mid board griptape stripe, for sure Phillips that may have been convexed, used to perform ‘over willy’ grinds by its owner (I’m not sure where I even talk to that person really) and yet it was pretty dope. He claimed it was 8.3 but it rode big.
My girl Simon 8.25 has actually been really fun. The last board I got from them was perfect. Ly fucked. Shape looked awesome, McCrank 8.37, short, tapered, all looked awesome. Was slightly spun, and just dead. Warped boards can be managed, but it was just doa. And not the cool doa. Anyways, new wood decent. Not quite as good as an 8.28 doom sayers board I had (14 wb) but....not trying to support that guy on account of some rumors of fuckery.
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Soooo after reading all the testimonials on Schlap about how much everyone loves BBS/Generator, i want to try one out. The last four boards I've had were all the same shape, quasi or wknd boards pressed by ps stix. 8.5" wide, 32.25" long with 14.25" wb super square kicks. Fairly mellow cave. I love this shape, and after trying out a bunch of different shapes last year, i can tell my skating has improved this year by sticking to the same shape for a while, so as not to mess with your muscle memory too much.
TLDR: Do BBS make a shape similar to the 8.5", 32.25", 14.25" wb with super square kicks that I've come to love from ps stix?
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Soooo after reading all the testimonials on Schlap about how much everyone loves BBS/Generator, i want to try one out. The last four boards I've had were all the same shape, quasi or wknd boards pressed by ps stix. 8.5" wide, 32.25" long with 14.25" wb super square kicks. Fairly mellow cave. I love this shape, and after trying out a bunch of different shapes last year, i can tell my skating has improved this year by sticking to the same shape for a while, so as not to mess with your muscle memory too much.
TLDR: Do BBS make a shape similar to the 8.5", 32.25", 14.25" wb with super square kicks that I've come to love from ps stix?
Most recent 8.5's from Hockey (Big John's and a couple team decks). Square kicks and noses, mellow concave, 14.25 wb. They do still dick around using PS Stix and BBS at the same time but the last 2 Hockey 8.5's I picked up were both BBS. Only difference from say a PS Quasi 8.5, the kick is ever so slightly steeper, but not drastically (and is probably different from deck to deck on the press).
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Right, thanks. I bought a FA board at the start of last year that I thought would be the same, but the kicks were too steep for me. Guess I just gotta go to a stacked shop and compare some decks.
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Right, thanks. I bought a FA board at the start of last year that I thought would be the same, but the kicks were too steep for me. Guess I just gotta go to a stacked shop and compare some decks.
Yeah, I had a 8.3 Piscopo deck that was borderline too steep but before that I had the Kosovo 8.5 and it was quite mellow all around. Tend to find their 8.5's to be a little flatter in the kicks and concave.
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I ride a lot of WKND boards, but the FA I am rocking at the moment from BBS has a slightly steeper tail. Very similar measurements, all 8.25s. Similar decks all round, although for me the FA appears to have better feel in the pocket (who knows if this is in my head).
Just my two cents anyway, and personally I'd rather support Grant these days and overcome these minute differences by just learning how my board responds a little better.
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how are the 917 kicks in terms of steepness?
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how are the 917 kicks in terms of steepness?
Interested. Had a Bianca board that I hated/ and then came to love. And would buy several times over. 917 dimensions hard to come by. Pretty sure they don’t make any wb short enough for me, which sucks cuz out of the new companies I like them.
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I think generator traditionally makes wheelbases too big but some people like them like that and 917 has a few that are pretty long. The 917 kicks are way more normal than the FA/Hockey/WKND boards I've seen...
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I think generator traditionally makes wheelbases too big but some people like them like that and 917 has a few that are pretty long. The 917 kicks are way more normal than the FA/Hockey/WKND boards I've seen...
True true.
I think a lot of the generator companies have an all terrain vibe, folks that skate it all, and/or get gnarly. I don’t. I’m looking for boards that are basically jeans, but with a sweatpants style elastic waistband: I want that wide board for fashion, but I really need the small wheelbase for function. Or something.
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how are the 917 kicks in terms of steepness?
Interested. Had a Bianca board that I hated/ and then came to love. And would buy several times over. 917 dimensions hard to come by. Pretty sure they don’t make any wb short enough for me, which sucks cuz out of the new companies I like them.
They have several 14.25 and below- mostly 8.124-8.25. The one I'm looking at is 14.19
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how are the 917 kicks in terms of steepness?
Interested. Had a Bianca board that I hated/ and then came to love. And would buy several times over. 917 dimensions hard to come by. Pretty sure they don’t make any wb short enough for me, which sucks cuz out of the new companies I like them.
No idea on the steepness but a few from their most recent drop have shorter wheelbases than usual, 14.19" (the Cyrus Trippy decks, and a couple team decks as well). They post all the dimensions on their site.
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Does anyone know if any South Central brands make a board with a shorter(ish) wheelbase?
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Does anyone know if any South Central brands make a board with a shorter(ish) wheelbase?
What's 'shorter-ish' to you? Every sub 8.5" deck by SC has a 14.25" wheelbase, that I've seen anyway (Politic, Northern, DOA, 5boro, Dieta, Morning Bell). 8.5" and above bump up to 14.5."
DOA just had a new drop, and their square shape looks to have an adjustable wheelbase, doesn't list the dimensions on the site but he's quick to return questions.
https://doany.bigcartel.com/product/death-deck-square-shape
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Does anyone know if any South Central brands make a board with a shorter(ish) wheelbase?
What's 'shorter-ish' to you? Every sub 8.5" deck by SC has a 14.25" wheelbase, that I've seen anyway (Politic, Northern, DOA, 5boro, Dieta, Morning Bell). 8.5" and above bump up to 14.5."
DOA just had a new drop, and their square shape looks to have an adjustable wheelbase, doesn't list the dimensions on the site but he's quick to return questions.
https://doany.bigcartel.com/product/death-deck-square-shape
Anything that’s less than 14.25 I’m wondering about. I ended up looking at a few and only saw 14.25 at the lowest. I also saw the one with the adjustable wheelbase but I’m not interested in that because if you choose the shorter wheelbase then the space between the bolts and the nose will be different between the distance between the other bolts and the tail if you get what I mean.
I’ve never skated a board with a shorter wheelbase than 14.25 in recent years and am curious to see how it affects things like pop and control on flip tricks or anything else.
I asked about South Central though because I tend to break a LOT of boards unless it’s either South Central wood or hybrid technology like Impact Light, Flight decks, etc. but I guess South Central brands don’t really do shorter wheelbases.
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Does anyone know if any South Central brands make a board with a shorter(ish) wheelbase?
What's 'shorter-ish' to you? Every sub 8.5" deck by SC has a 14.25" wheelbase, that I've seen anyway (Politic, Northern, DOA, 5boro, Dieta, Morning Bell). 8.5" and above bump up to 14.5."
DOA just had a new drop, and their square shape looks to have an adjustable wheelbase, doesn't list the dimensions on the site but he's quick to return questions.
https://doany.bigcartel.com/product/death-deck-square-shape
I’ve never skated a board with a shorter wheelbase than 14.25 in recent years and am curious to see how it affects things like pop and control on flip tricks or anything else.
I asked about South Central though because I tend to break a LOT of boards unless it’s either South Central wood or hybrid technology like Impact Light, Flight decks, etc. but I guess South Central brands don’t really do shorter wheelbases.
Understood. I'd suggest checking out Pennswood decks then, especially Scumco boards. A lot have 14" wheelbases in pretty much every width. I always found Pennswood to be just as durable as SC decks, maybe a smidge heavier (they tend to be a little thicker than the usual woodshops).
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Does anyone know if any South Central brands make a board with a shorter(ish) wheelbase?
What's 'shorter-ish' to you? Every sub 8.5" deck by SC has a 14.25" wheelbase, that I've seen anyway (Politic, Northern, DOA, 5boro, Dieta, Morning Bell). 8.5" and above bump up to 14.5."
DOA just had a new drop, and their square shape looks to have an adjustable wheelbase, doesn't list the dimensions on the site but he's quick to return questions.
https://doany.bigcartel.com/product/death-deck-square-shape
I’ve never skated a board with a shorter wheelbase than 14.25 in recent years and am curious to see how it affects things like pop and control on flip tricks or anything else.
I asked about South Central though because I tend to break a LOT of boards unless it’s either South Central wood or hybrid technology like Impact Light, Flight decks, etc. but I guess South Central brands don’t really do shorter wheelbases.
Understood. I'd suggest checking out Pennswood decks then, especially Scumco boards. A lot have 14" wheelbases in pretty much every width. I always found Pennswood to be just as durable as SC decks, maybe a smidge heavier (they tend to be a little thicker than the usual woodshops).
Quick reminder from the sunny slopes of the steel city - the latest batch of ScumCo decks are not Pennswood. They're done by Control in Canada. He does note which ones are which on the website, so I'd recommend ordering there or looking for older models. I was pretty bummed too when one of the local Pittsburgh shops told me they'd just talked to him on the phone and he was picking up his new boards only to stop at another shop a few days later and find out they're not Pennswood. I did fondle one off the shelf and they look good and the shape was pretty ScumCo-ish but I haven't skated one. However, if there's one thing I've learned about Nick it's that EVERY little thing he does is high quality. Even down to the stickers being printed on really cool thick old cardstock to give them the vintage look/feel and rolling/packaging an ungodly amount of cigarettes by hand. I've come across ScumCo products I don't like, but never one that was cheap.
If you've got your heart set on Pennswood here's a pretty sweet little local company that I'm really digging. I might cop one of their Ed Gein decks next if I can still find one in a size I find skateable.
https://www.playskateboarding.com/products
I'm heading over to a shop I know has some in stock some time in the next couple days, possibly tomorrow afternoon, if anyone wants me to get more precise measurements.
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Does anyone know if any South Central brands make a board with a shorter(ish) wheelbase?
What's 'shorter-ish' to you? Every sub 8.5" deck by SC has a 14.25" wheelbase, that I've seen anyway (Politic, Northern, DOA, 5boro, Dieta, Morning Bell). 8.5" and above bump up to 14.5."
DOA just had a new drop, and their square shape looks to have an adjustable wheelbase, doesn't list the dimensions on the site but he's quick to return questions.
https://doany.bigcartel.com/product/death-deck-square-shape
You can drill the holes out to adjustable wb. It’s pre drilled for vert set up. The holes are part of the graphic.
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how are the 917 kicks in terms of steepness?
Interested. Had a Bianca board that I hated/ and then came to love. And would buy several times over. 917 dimensions hard to come by. Pretty sure they don’t make any wb short enough for me, which sucks cuz out of the new companies I like them.
No idea on the steepness but a few from their most recent drop have shorter wheelbases than usual, 14.19" (the Cyrus Trippy decks, and a couple team decks as well). They post all the dimensions on their site.
Thanks for the info. I’ve looked at they site, always wonder if the wb are accurate. One drop everything said 14.75 wb. Pretty sure that wasn’t true
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I’ve been looking around at decks with shorter wheelbases, and I looked on Tactics and they had an 8.5 Full SE Shape (SE=Short Edition I believe) deck which is advertised as having a shorter wheelbase. When I checked the measurements, it was a 14.38 wheelbase. So I looked at other 8.5s by them and they had exactly the same wheelbase. So it’s either mislabeled, or false advertisement. Has anyone actually measured a Full SE Shape Real deck?
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I think the 8.5” full shape has 14.75” wheelbase. Not 100% sure as I’ve never had one. I know that the 8.38” has a 14.62” wheelbase.
The full shapes in general have longer wheelbases than normal decks. I guess ppl complained and they made shorter versions of the full shapes. Still not exactly short but shorter than the full shapes and maybe a tad bit shorter than DLX normal shapes too (mostly).
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I think the 8.5” full shape has 14.75” wheelbase. Not 100% sure as I’ve never had one. I know that the 8.38” has a 14.62” wheelbase.
The full shapes in general have longer wheelbases than normal decks. I guess ppl complained and they made shorter versions of the full shapes. Still not exactly short but shorter than the full shapes and maybe a tad bit shorter than DLX normal shapes too (mostly).
Stadard 8.5" fulls also have the 14.62" wheelbase, so the 8.5" SE's having 14.38" wheelbase checks out. Only DLX deck I can think of that is full/square shape with a shorter wheelbase is the new Manderson 8.38.
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Does anyone know if any South Central brands make a board with a shorter(ish) wheelbase?
What's 'shorter-ish' to you? Every sub 8.5" deck by SC has a 14.25" wheelbase, that I've seen anyway (Politic, Northern, DOA, 5boro, Dieta, Morning Bell). 8.5" and above bump up to 14.5."
DOA just had a new drop, and their square shape looks to have an adjustable wheelbase, doesn't list the dimensions on the site but he's quick to return questions.
https://doany.bigcartel.com/product/death-deck-square-shape
I’ve never skated a board with a shorter wheelbase than 14.25 in recent years and am curious to see how it affects things like pop and control on flip tricks or anything else.
I asked about South Central though because I tend to break a LOT of boards unless it’s either South Central wood or hybrid technology like Impact Light, Flight decks, etc. but I guess South Central brands don’t really do shorter wheelbases.
Understood. I'd suggest checking out Pennswood decks then, especially Scumco boards. A lot have 14" wheelbases in pretty much every width. I always found Pennswood to be just as durable as SC decks, maybe a smidge heavier (they tend to be a little thicker than the usual woodshops).
Quick reminder from the sunny slopes of the steel city - the latest batch of ScumCo decks are not Pennswood. They're done by Control in Canada. He does note which ones are which on the website, so I'd recommend ordering there or looking for older models. I was pretty bummed too when one of the local Pittsburgh shops told me they'd just talked to him on the phone and he was picking up his new boards only to stop at another shop a few days later and find out they're not Pennswood. I did fondle one off the shelf and they look good and the shape was pretty ScumCo-ish but I haven't skated one. However, if there's one thing I've learned about Nick it's that EVERY little thing he does is high quality. Even down to the stickers being printed on really cool thick old cardstock to give them the vintage look/feel and rolling/packaging an ungodly amount of cigarettes by hand. I've come across ScumCo products I don't like, but never one that was cheap.
If you've got your heart set on Pennswood here's a pretty sweet little local company that I'm really digging. I might cop one of their Ed Gein decks next if I can still find one in a size I find skateable.
https://www.playskateboarding.com/products
I'm heading over to a shop I know has some in stock some time in the next couple days, possibly tomorrow afternoon, if anyone wants me to get more precise measurements.
Damn those play decks look awesome. The shirts and decks look so good. Do you know the wheel bases?
I want to try a bacon board but can’t find wheel bases on their site but from looking online it seems most 14.5 for 8.5 but they got more on the bacon site just no dimensions.
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I'm interested in how the control decks look because the ones I've seen are always mellow and really flat kicks.
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I had this 8.5 bacon with a 15" wb.
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/21cgucav1RL.jpg)
they're usually more proportional. there's full measurements on tactics
https://www.tactics.com/bacon/decks
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What's 'shorter-ish' to you? Every sub 8.5" deck by SC has a 14.25" wheelbase, that I've seen anyway (Politic, Northern, DOA, 5boro, Dieta, Morning Bell). 8.5" and above bump up to 14.5."
DOA just had a new drop, and their square shape looks to have an adjustable wheelbase, doesn't list the dimensions on the site but he's quick to return questions.
https://doany.bigcartel.com/product/death-deck-square-shape
I’ve never skated a board with a shorter wheelbase than 14.25 in recent years and am curious to see how it affects things like pop and control on flip tricks or anything else.
I asked about South Central though because I tend to break a LOT of boards unless it’s either South Central wood or hybrid technology like Impact Light, Flight decks, etc. but I guess South Central brands don’t really do shorter wheelbases.
Understood. I'd suggest checking out Pennswood decks then, especially Scumco boards. A lot have 14" wheelbases in pretty much every width. I always found Pennswood to be just as durable as SC decks, maybe a smidge heavier (they tend to be a little thicker than the usual woodshops).
Quick reminder from the sunny slopes of the steel city - the latest batch of ScumCo decks are not Pennswood. They're done by Control in Canada. He does note which ones are which on the website, so I'd recommend ordering there or looking for older models. I was pretty bummed too when one of the local Pittsburgh shops told me they'd just talked to him on the phone and he was picking up his new boards only to stop at another shop a few days later and find out they're not Pennswood. I did fondle one off the shelf and they look good and the shape was pretty ScumCo-ish but I haven't skated one. However, if there's one thing I've learned about Nick it's that EVERY little thing he does is high quality. Even down to the stickers being printed on really cool thick old cardstock to give them the vintage look/feel and rolling/packaging an ungodly amount of cigarettes by hand. I've come across ScumCo products I don't like, but never one that was cheap.
If you've got your heart set on Pennswood here's a pretty sweet little local company that I'm really digging. I might cop one of their Ed Gein decks next if I can still find one in a size I find skateable.
https://www.playskateboarding.com/products
I'm heading over to a shop I know has some in stock some time in the next couple days, possibly tomorrow afternoon, if anyone wants me to get more precise measurements.
im pretty sure he does some control and some penns still. control arent my fav at all.
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how are the 917 kicks in terms of steepness?
I set up the 8.25, 14.75 pink "Glam" board this week and the kicks are very high. i usually skate very mellow dlx boards so maybe someone else can weigh in but i think the kicks, especially the tail are high. i skate indys; the gap between the board and each kick is very narrow
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Does anyone know if any South Central brands make a board with a shorter(ish) wheelbase?
What's 'shorter-ish' to you? Every sub 8.5" deck by SC has a 14.25" wheelbase, that I've seen anyway (Politic, Northern, DOA, 5boro, Dieta, Morning Bell). 8.5" and above bump up to 14.5."
DOA just had a new drop, and their square shape looks to have an adjustable wheelbase, doesn't list the dimensions on the site but he's quick to return questions.
https://doany.bigcartel.com/product/death-deck-square-shape
I’ve never skated a board with a shorter wheelbase than 14.25 in recent years and am curious to see how it affects things like pop and control on flip tricks or anything else.
I asked about South Central though because I tend to break a LOT of boards unless it’s either South Central wood or hybrid technology like Impact Light, Flight decks, etc. but I guess South Central brands don’t really do shorter wheelbases.
Understood. I'd suggest checking out Pennswood decks then, especially Scumco boards. A lot have 14" wheelbases in pretty much every width. I always found Pennswood to be just as durable as SC decks, maybe a smidge heavier (they tend to be a little thicker than the usual woodshops).
Quick reminder from the sunny slopes of the steel city - the latest batch of ScumCo decks are not Pennswood. They're done by Control in Canada. He does note which ones are which on the website, so I'd recommend ordering there or looking for older models. I was pretty bummed too when one of the local Pittsburgh shops told me they'd just talked to him on the phone and he was picking up his new boards only to stop at another shop a few days later and find out they're not Pennswood. I did fondle one off the shelf and they look good and the shape was pretty ScumCo-ish but I haven't skated one. However, if there's one thing I've learned about Nick it's that EVERY little thing he does is high quality. Even down to the stickers being printed on really cool thick old cardstock to give them the vintage look/feel and rolling/packaging an ungodly amount of cigarettes by hand. I've come across ScumCo products I don't like, but never one that was cheap.
If you've got your heart set on Pennswood here's a pretty sweet little local company that I'm really digging. I might cop one of their Ed Gein decks next if I can still find one in a size I find skateable.
https://www.playskateboarding.com/products
I'm heading over to a shop I know has some in stock some time in the next couple days, possibly tomorrow afternoon, if anyone wants me to get more precise measurements.
My control experience is very limited to some hi-tek boards, and those were sick. What didn’t you like? Just curious and always trying to solicit info on scumco
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how are the 917 kicks in terms of steepness?
I set up the 8.25, 14.75 pink "Glam" board this week and the kicks are very high. i usually skate very mellow dlx boards so maybe someone else can weigh in but i think the kicks, especially the tail are high. i skate indys; the gap between the board and each kick is very narrow
8.25 by 14.75 wb??? I assumed those measurements were just wrong. How long is the board? Seems like a funky set up, which could be cool....
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Does anyone know if any South Central brands make a board with a shorter(ish) wheelbase?
What's 'shorter-ish' to you? Every sub 8.5" deck by SC has a 14.25" wheelbase, that I've seen anyway (Politic, Northern, DOA, 5boro, Dieta, Morning Bell). 8.5" and above bump up to 14.5."
DOA just had a new drop, and their square shape looks to have an adjustable wheelbase, doesn't list the dimensions on the site but he's quick to return questions.
https://doany.bigcartel.com/product/death-deck-square-shape
I’ve never skated a board with a shorter wheelbase than 14.25 in recent years and am curious to see how it affects things like pop and control on flip tricks or anything else.
I asked about South Central though because I tend to break a LOT of boards unless it’s either South Central wood or hybrid technology like Impact Light, Flight decks, etc. but I guess South Central brands don’t really do shorter wheelbases.
Understood. I'd suggest checking out Pennswood decks then, especially Scumco boards. A lot have 14" wheelbases in pretty much every width. I always found Pennswood to be just as durable as SC decks, maybe a smidge heavier (they tend to be a little thicker than the usual woodshops).
Quick reminder from the sunny slopes of the steel city - the latest batch of ScumCo decks are not Pennswood. They're done by Control in Canada. He does note which ones are which on the website, so I'd recommend ordering there or looking for older models. I was pretty bummed too when one of the local Pittsburgh shops told me they'd just talked to him on the phone and he was picking up his new boards only to stop at another shop a few days later and find out they're not Pennswood. I did fondle one off the shelf and they look good and the shape was pretty ScumCo-ish but I haven't skated one. However, if there's one thing I've learned about Nick it's that EVERY little thing he does is high quality. Even down to the stickers being printed on really cool thick old cardstock to give them the vintage look/feel and rolling/packaging an ungodly amount of cigarettes by hand. I've come across ScumCo products I don't like, but never one that was cheap.
If you've got your heart set on Pennswood here's a pretty sweet little local company that I'm really digging. I might cop one of their Ed Gein decks next if I can still find one in a size I find skateable.
https://www.playskateboarding.com/products
I'm heading over to a shop I know has some in stock some time in the next couple days, possibly tomorrow afternoon, if anyone wants me to get more precise measurements.
When you are there can you ask what concave molds they are using. I love Pennswood decks and I wish Scumco had stuck with them.
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The only 917 deck I have was psstix pressed and it was flat and mellllow. Never seen any since.
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Generator presses them too and I think they are similar. Mellow, bigger wheelbase....
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TLDR: Do BBS make a shape similar to the 8.5", 32.25", 14.25" wb with super square kicks that I've come to love from ps stix?
The Harper habitat Icon series i believe is all bbs and the 8.5 is those dimentions, cant speak to the kick but the 8.3 ive had in recent times were fairly mellow
https://www.habitatskateboards.com/collections/decks/products/harper-icon-series-8-5
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I’m fully back to being a weirdo: who knows some wider boards with 14” wb? 8.5 and up, preferably less than 32”. Please and thanks.
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I’m fully back to being a weirdo: who knows some wider boards with 14” wb? 8.5 and up, preferably less than 32”. Please and thanks.
You sound like me. FA has a nice shape for an 8.5x31.875.
I'm forgetting the exact wheelbase, but I know its either 14" or a little over, but pretty sure 14" flat.
I'm skating a FA team board with those dimensions now and its great. It BBS wood on this one so I'm sure you can follow any brands that use BBS and try to find one using the shorter wheelbases, Polar might a good start.
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I’m fully back to being a weirdo: who knows some wider boards with 14” wb? 8.5 and up, preferably less than 32”. Please and thanks.
how about a 9.2?
https://www.tactics.com/real/guerrero-the-tg-ii-92-skateboard-deck/green
Or this 8.5
https://www.tactics.com/roger-skateboards/sock-monkey-85-skateboard-deck/orange
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I’m fully back to being a weirdo: who knows some wider boards with 14” wb? 8.5 and up, preferably less than 32”. Please and thanks.
I'm forgetting the exact wheelbase, but I know its either 14" or a little over, but pretty sure 14" flat.
I'm skating a FA team board with those dimensions now and its great. It BBS wood on this one so I'm sure you can follow any brands that use BBS and try to find one using the shorter wheelbases, Polar might a good start.
Ayye
Thanks! BBS seems pretty locked in to 14.25 and up. I think I’ve seen a narrower Polar with a 14.12334334 ish wb.
FA started out running a lot of 14” wb, so basically like fake big boards. Wide boards for little people. Lately I just them having mostly 14.25. Which is a fine all around wb. But I’m skating in a parking lot by myself, I’m trying to flip. Anyways. Thanks for the suggestions and I’ll keep an eye out for that shape! It’s a tyranny of 14.25 currently. I’ve been looking thru websites I’d never order from (tactics) trying to search wb. I’m a real treat at party’s.
Thanks for your help!
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I’m fully back to being a weirdo: who knows some wider boards with 14” wb? 8.5 and up, preferably less than 32”. Please and thanks.
how about a 9.2?
https://www.tactics.com/real/guerrero-the-tg-ii-92-skateboard-deck/green
Or this 8.5
https://www.tactics.com/roger-skateboards/sock-monkey-85-skateboard-deck/orange
Will check! Better than my ‘plan’ to order a bigger board, and re drill/shorten. Thanks!!!
I’m semi surprised it’s so hard to find, say 8.5/14/31.5
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When you are there can you ask what concave molds they are using. I love Pennswood decks and I wish Scumco had stuck with them.
I actually ended up going with a friend who was buying his first board and got kinda wrapped up in that so I forgot to get measurements but I did chat with a guy at the shop who said the concave is a little different but pretty close to the older silver spoon/kiddie pool with the addition of a medium in-betweener concave to the line. Don't quote me on this as its totally a "friend of a friend said" kind of thing but what I was told is that Pennswood got the roof ripped off their building over the winter and was backed up on orders and that's why ScumCo went to control for this batch of decks.
I guess we'll see when the next batch drops if the move is permanent or if they'll go back to Pennswood or what, but I would definitely be sad to see ScumCo move away from Pennswood permanently since they have the Western PA connection. There's just something cool and beautiful about one the best and most creative small companies being able to get high quality wood from a small manufacturer that could theoretically just float their order down the Allegheny river to Pittsburgh like they used to do with timber.... actually that would be kinda cool to see even though it would ruin the boards.
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2 out of 3 Scumco Pennswood have been warped. I liked the Control ones better.
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I’m fully back to being a weirdo: who knows some wider boards with 14” wb? 8.5 and up, preferably less than 32”. Please and thanks.
You prolly already considered it but girl/choc big boys?
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2 out of 3 Scumco Pennswood have been warped. I liked the Control ones better.
Are you in a warm/humid climate by chance? I'm just brainstorming here, but PW wood in the winter would be from a cold, dry climate and maybe they got warped in shipping/storage. Did you buy them all from the same place? Did you mistake the Dave Abair graphic for instructions and piss on the deck?
I don't know, I've never seen even a little warp in any of the ones in the shops around here but then again they probably wouldn't put them out on the racks if they were warped and I'm only like 50 miles away so there wouldn't be any dramatic changes in temperature/humidity. At any rate, mine is straight as Andy Roy's teeth and you're the first person I've heard complain of a warped ScumCo deck so I think you might just be unlucky.
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Heard girls and choc wood distributor has changed wood shops or something was PSI but I’m not sure right now.
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Possible but that would be huge....Seems like PS had a hard time keeping up when they had FA, Element etc. Crail is a ton of boards.....maybe people are getting confused with the new laser etching......
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Not sure what wood shop Girl is using these days, but the new wood is definitely way better. I just started skating again after a 4 year hiatus and it's like night and day compared to the old stuff. Feels much stiffer with significantly more concave. Glad they finally addressed the wood quality because I've always liked their shapes and shorter weelbases. Especially loving the G023 shape right now.
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Same shop better quality....and if it's not the same shop....same country....
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I’m fully back to being a weirdo: who knows some wider boards with 14” wb? 8.5 and up, preferably less than 32”. Please and thanks.
You prolly already considered it but girl/choc big boys?
You right, was gonna get the girl/chocolate couch shape. That’s a pretty big board, but it’ll be fun. Anyways, good call, the crail stuff can be wide with short wb.
That roger board is basically the exact right size. Roger is one of those companies that I thought was worth supporting....and then just never did. Even worse with Strangelove (and whatever they were before that) allllll of those graphics are super dope, and I like their shapes....and then I just end up grabbing an anti hero and walking out of the shop. So yeah, maybe I’ll turn it around and get that roger. They ps?
Warped boards don’t super fuck with me AFTER they are set up. The main problem, for me, is that warped boards have also been dead boards. And that’s always a bummer.
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2 out of 3 Scumco Pennswood have been warped. I liked the Control ones better.
Are you in a warm/humid climate by chance? I'm just brainstorming here, but PW wood in the winter would be from a cold, dry climate and maybe they got warped in shipping/storage. Did you buy them all from the same place? Did you mistake the Dave Abair graphic for instructions and piss on the deck?
I don't know, I've never seen even a little warp in any of the ones in the shops around here but then again they probably wouldn't put them out on the racks if they were warped and I'm only like 50 miles away so there wouldn't be any dramatic changes in temperature/humidity. At any rate, mine is straight as Andy Roy's teeth and you're the first person I've heard complain of a warped ScumCo deck so I think you might just be unlucky.
Central Europe, I think it is either from shipping or storage, in addition to the warp the last board also had another small defect (image attached).
I am pretty positive this logo board is by Pennswood as the other logo boards (I assume Control) felt different, had a different shape and had no Made in USA on it.
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Central Europe, I think it is either from shipping or storage, in addition to the warp the last board also had another small defect (image attached).
I am pretty positive this logo board is by Pennswood as the other logo boards (I assume Control) felt different, had a different shape and had no Made in USA on it.
Ahh yeah I'd imagine that transatlantic journey might fuck a board up, especially if its pressed in our cold dry winter. I wonder if that's part of why some companies use a Euro woodshop for their overseas decks, I always assumed it was a logistics/cost thing but I guess that could be a reason too.
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2 out of 3 Scumco Pennswood have been warped. I liked the Control ones better.
Are you in a warm/humid climate by chance? I'm just brainstorming here, but PW wood in the winter would be from a cold, dry climate and maybe they got warped in shipping/storage. Did you buy them all from the same place? Did you mistake the Dave Abair graphic for instructions and piss on the deck?
I don't know, I've never seen even a little warp in any of the ones in the shops around here but then again they probably wouldn't put them out on the racks if they were warped and I'm only like 50 miles away so there wouldn't be any dramatic changes in temperature/humidity. At any rate, mine is straight as Andy Roy's teeth and you're the first person I've heard complain of a warped ScumCo deck so I think you might just be unlucky.
Central Europe, I think it is either from shipping or storage, in addition to the warp the last board also had another small defect (image attached).
I am pretty positive this logo board is by Pennswood as the other logo boards (I assume Control) felt different, had a different shape and had no Made in USA on it.
had two scumcos one was warped in an odd way and the other delammed on me 2 days after setting it up.
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i bought a 917 boogie deck, like this:
https://thepremierstore.com/products/boogie-deck
yeah, it's butt ugly, but i liked the shape. curious as to what the woodshop is tho. i would guess bbs/generator. defs has no engravings, so i guess ps stix can be ruled out? no made in so and so to be seen anywhere. it had a tiny hole poked beneath the sticker that looked like one of those marker holes that usually tell you which shape it is. i forgot who does this... something is off though. i looked up all the shops carrying this board and couldn't find anyone listing the woodshop. it reminds me most of a 5boro board i had a few years back, way more than it does any generator or ps stix.
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i bought a 917 boogie deck, like this:
https://thepremierstore.com/products/boogie-deck
yeah, it's butt ugly, but i liked the shape. curious as to what the woodshop is tho. i would guess bbs/generator. defs has no engravings, so i guess ps stix can be ruled out? no made in so and so to be seen anywhere. it had a tiny hole poked beneath the sticker that looked like one of those marker holes that usually tell you which shape it is. i forgot who does this... something is off though. i looked up all the shops carrying this board and couldn't find anyone listing the woodshop. it reminds me most of a 5boro board i had a few years back, way more than it does any generator or ps stix.
With that sticker, definitely Generator.
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thx a bunch, good to know. my favourite decks as well.
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Brothers! Sisters! Children!
Pay Attention!
I just got a brand new chocolate and can confirm the wood feels better. PSI has stepped up thee game. It feels poppy and mellow and the nose is how I’d say feels low.
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Anyone know who uses a stamp like this. Back truck holes
(https://i.imgur.com/AWIZ7Ofl.jpg)
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I’m fully back to being a weirdo: who knows some wider boards with 14” wb? 8.5 and up, preferably less than 32”. Please and thanks.
If I recall correct the classic eagle from AH should fulfill your needshttp://
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Central Europe, I think it is either from shipping or storage, in addition to the warp the last board also had another small defect (image attached).
I am pretty positive this logo board is by Pennswood as the other logo boards (I assume Control) felt different, had a different shape and had no Made in USA on it.
Ahh yeah I'd imagine that transatlantic journey might fuck a board up, especially if its pressed in our cold dry winter. I wonder if that's part of why some companies use a Euro woodshop for their overseas decks, I always assumed it was a logistics/cost thing but I guess that could be a reason too.
Anyways, I thought the Control decks were a new thing - I wasn't aware they'd done ScumCo decks before and I thought all the logo boards were Pennswood but I could be wrong. Maybe he did runs at other woodshops or something, I'll ask one of the local shop owners next time I stop by and see if I can get a definitive answer on that.
I mean, the wood comes in sheets from either Canada or China so there's absolutely no difference at all.
European Maple is too soft compared to te Canadian.
Hence this is probably just a bad batch, which could happen.
As EUROS we deal with shipped boards all the time, and as much as I understand the issue you're pointing out this must be the most 'murican statement ever.
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Just got my first PS Stix board in over 10 years after riding nothing but Generator and Chapman. I got a GX1000 board.
Within the first 10 minutes of riding it I have determined that this might be the worst board I've ever skated in 20 years.
First, the tail is way the fuck too square'd. You can feel the board heavily scraping the ground every time you try a flip trick, and flip tricks feel really sloppy and slow. The squared nose doesn't bother me, but that tail is useless. It didn't look that bad at the shop, but once I got home and gripped it I had an "oh shit" moment.
Second and worst of all, this is the shittiest wood I've ever skated. The board feels like it was pressed with old rotting wood.. no stiffness whatsoever. You feel the tail flexing when ollieing. It feels dead; no pop at all and you can feel that thing flexing just pushing around, it is just so soft. Zero torsional stiffness at all. My 1-year old Hotel Blue (Chapman) that was beaten to hell and somehow never snapped feels much stiffer.
I've got about an hour on this board and I'm getting a Real this afternoon. How PS has that big of a following is beyond me.
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Just got my first PS Stix board in over 10 years after riding nothing but Generator and Chapman. I got a GX1000 board.
Within the first 10 minutes of riding it I have determined that this might be the worst board I've ever skated in 20 years.
First, the tail is way the fuck too square'd. You can feel the board heavily scraping the ground every time you try a flip trick, and flip tricks feel really sloppy and slow. The squared nose doesn't bother me, but that tail is useless. It didn't look that bad at the shop, but once I got home and gripped it I had an "oh shit" moment.
Second and worst of all, this is the shittiest wood I've ever skated. The board feels like it was pressed with old rotting wood.. no stiffness whatsoever. You feel the tail flexing when ollieing. It feels dead; no pop at all and you can feel that thing flexing just pushing around, it is just so soft. Zero torsional stiffness at all. My 1-year old Hotel Blue (Chapman) that was beaten to hell and somehow never snapped feels much stiffer.
I've got about an hour on this board and I'm getting a Real this afternoon. How PS has that big of a following is beyond me.
I haven’t had ps for a minute, but this is maybe a 1 of 3 experience for me. I’ve definitely taken a ps board off, thrown it into a closet, and come back to it months later and loved it tho. Maybe it just needs to cook/settle out a bit (I’ve got no idea why this happens but several boards seemed sooooo dead and then a few months later felt perfect)
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Haven't skated a PS board in ages, I have s Welcome one I'll be setting in a couple weeks.
I'm terrified.
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Just got my first PS Stix board in over 10 years after riding nothing but Generator and Chapman. I got a GX1000 board.
Within the first 10 minutes of riding it I have determined that this might be the worst board I've ever skated in 20 years.
First, the tail is way the fuck too square'd. You can feel the board heavily scraping the ground every time you try a flip trick, and flip tricks feel really sloppy and slow. The squared nose doesn't bother me, but that tail is useless. It didn't look that bad at the shop, but once I got home and gripped it I had an "oh shit" moment.
Second and worst of all, this is the shittiest wood I've ever skated. The board feels like it was pressed with old rotting wood.. no stiffness whatsoever. You feel the tail flexing when ollieing. It feels dead; no pop at all and you can feel that thing flexing just pushing around, it is just so soft. Zero torsional stiffness at all. My 1-year old Hotel Blue (Chapman) that was beaten to hell and somehow never snapped feels much stiffer.
I've got about an hour on this board and I'm getting a Real this afternoon. How PS has that big of a following is beyond me.
I think I had similar thoughts when I got my first one about 6 months ago. The square shape certainly took me a session or two to figure out, but once I got my stuff dialed back in I love it! Maybe what you received was a one off issue, every Quasi board I have ridden is very snappy pop, I will also say they sog out after about 2-3 weeks. Maybe GX is using different glues or veneers.
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Central Europe, I think it is either from shipping or storage, in addition to the warp the last board also had another small defect (image attached).
I am pretty positive this logo board is by Pennswood as the other logo boards (I assume Control) felt different, had a different shape and had no Made in USA on it.
What was the concave on your logo deck like? My old scumco got stolen and I just got a new logo deck yesterday that's from control (or at least I assume that's where it's from, it has a Made in Canada sticker) and the concave is pretty mellow. I'd say it's mellower than any of the Pennswood decks I've seen, and it seems thinner/lighter too but Pennswood decks are pretty sturdy so that's not really a surprise. I'm still waiting for the trucks and grip I ordered so I haven't skated it yet but I'm excited to see how it handles.
My friend who doesn't even skate bought a Troika pennswood deck that's marked "8.38 steep" so I'm going to set them up at the same time so I can compare them.
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I'm interested in how the control decks look because the ones I've seen are always mellow and really flat kicks.
I tried to snap a few pics for you before I put grip on but my phone camera is pretty shit and they didnt turn out great
(https://i.imgur.com/QpI7Til.jpg)
I don't want to clutter up the thread and kill peoples data plans with a bunch of pics so here's a link to the gallery with a few more (https://imgur.com/a/tB3FwsV).
If you want me to take any other ones I will but the board is gripped now so its not as easy to see. I did give it a quick test drive with 144's (decks 8.38 and I have 149s on the way for it) and it handled really, really well. It feels lighter than a Pennswood and I love the concave. Update: Control wood blows, sogged out after literally one session and I gave it away.
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Was psyched to finally grab the numbers tony d pro board...sogged out in just over two weeks, broke at the tail a couple days later and I break boards once every two years maybe.
Guessing all PS aren’t as bad as that, but funny to see the recent posts.
Back to South Central & BBS.
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TLDR: Do BBS make a shape similar to the 8.5", 32.25", 14.25" wb with super square kicks that I've come to love from ps stix?
The Harper habitat Icon series i believe is all bbs and the 8.5 is those dimentions, cant speak to the kick but the 8.3 ive had in recent times were fairly mellow
https://www.habitatskateboards.com/collections/decks/products/harper-icon-series-8-5
Yo thanks for the heads up. My latest ps stix def sogged out fast so going to grab this on Monday.
I grabbed a Heroin 8.5 last week on sale but the wb and tail were too long and I couldn't hack it, the wood was awesome tho so looking forward to this.
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Does anyone know more about dog town skateboards, the shop, quality, resin, etc.
thank you
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Just got my first PS Stix board in over 10 years after riding nothing but Generator and Chapman. I got a GX1000 board.
Within the first 10 minutes of riding it I have determined that this might be the worst board I've ever skated in 20 years.
First, the tail is way the fuck too square'd. You can feel the board heavily scraping the ground every time you try a flip trick, and flip tricks feel really sloppy and slow. The squared nose doesn't bother me, but that tail is useless. It didn't look that bad at the shop, but once I got home and gripped it I had an "oh shit" moment.
Second and worst of all, this is the shittiest wood I've ever skated. The board feels like it was pressed with old rotting wood.. no stiffness whatsoever. You feel the tail flexing when ollieing. It feels dead; no pop at all and you can feel that thing flexing just pushing around, it is just so soft. Zero torsional stiffness at all. My 1-year old Hotel Blue (Chapman) that was beaten to hell and somehow never snapped feels much stiffer.
I've got about an hour on this board and I'm getting a Real this afternoon. How PS has that big of a following is beyond me.
I think I had similar thoughts when I got my first one about 6 months ago. The square shape certainly took me a session or two to figure out, but once I got my stuff dialed back in I love it! Maybe what you received was a one off issue, every Quasi board I have ridden is very snappy pop, I will also say they sog out after about 2-3 weeks. Maybe GX is using different glues or veneers.
had a similar experience with that JJ quasi saves board, but the Bledsoe shape is perfect iMO.
Also noe that the Al Davis boards arent on that super stiff wood the shapes feel a lot better. Didnt someone also say that the pros ask PS for a not so stiff board? Forget what topic that was in
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Curious, who's pressing Sour boards for North America? The list only mentions Jart, which I don't think I've ever seen over here.
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Curious, who's pressing Sour boards for North America? The list only mentions Jart, which I don't think I've ever seen over here.
Hopefully somebody else, HLC boards in my experience gets soggy and soft after 2 weeks.
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Curious, who's pressing Sour boards for North America? The list only mentions Jart, which I don't think I've ever seen over here.
Definitely heard nothing but bad things in every woodshop thread. That said, I gotta assume someone else presses them in NA. They're in tons of shops here in Canada (none in my local or I'd just go look myself), and I've never seen (or even heard of) the other Jart/HLC brands in shops here.
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Pretty sure they are generator in NA....
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I really liked one of my Polar 8.5's- it had a 14.3 wheelbase and very mellow concave. I want it in 8.25 as I don't like their 8.38 shape, but I can't seem to find something that is as mellow and doesn't have an even more massive nose. Any leads?
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Curious, who's pressing Sour boards for North America? The list only mentions Jart, which I don't think I've ever seen over here.
Definitely heard nothing but bad things in every woodshop thread. That said, I gotta assume someone else presses them in NA. They're in tons of shops here in Canada (none in my local or I'd just go look myself), and I've never seen (or even heard of) the other Jart/HLC brands in shops here.
all the sour boards at my shop are hlc, they say made in europe.
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I really liked one of my Polar 8.5's- it had a 14.3 wheelbase and very mellow concave. I want it in 8.25 as I don't like their 8.38 shape, but I can't seem to find something that is as mellow and doesn't have an even more massive nose. Any leads?
Polar 8.5” has a 14.5” wheelbase. Or has it changed? 😮
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I really liked one of my Polar 8.5's- it had a 14.3 wheelbase and very mellow concave. I want it in 8.25 as I don't like their 8.38 shape, but I can't seem to find something that is as mellow and doesn't have an even more massive nose. Any leads?
Polar 8.5” has a 14.5” wheelbase. Or has it changed? 😮
14.5 wb sir
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Literally have a Hjalte 8.5 right here (dragon on it) that is 14.38. Had a few team decks including this one: https://www.amazon.com/POLARSKATECO-Polar-Where-Here-Skateboard/dp/B07K8S6876 that I just measured as 14.38. Unless WB is not measured from center to center of the bolt holes.
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Literally have a Hjalte 8.5 right here (dragon on it) that is 14.38. Had a few team decks including this one: https://www.amazon.com/POLARSKATECO-Polar-Where-Here-Skateboard/dp/B07K8S6876 that I just measured as 14.38. Unless WB is not measured from center to center of the bolt holes.
Well shit. You seem to be right. Just measured my Polar 8.5” that I have waiting and it’s 14.375” and not 14.5” despite what it says on Polar’s website and on the board. Bummer. :(
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all the sour boards at my shop are hlc, they say made in europe.
Thanks man! Have any first hand experience riding them?
Also, your shop in Calgary, Ninetimes or Source or...?
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all the sour boards at my shop are hlc, they say made in europe.
Thanks man! Have any first hand experience riding them?
Also, your shop in Calgary, Ninetimes or Source or...?
source
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Does anyone know the wheel base on the G027 shape on chocolate?
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Does anyone know the wheel base on the G027 shape on chocolate?
14.00"
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all the sour boards at my shop are hlc, they say made in europe.
Thanks man! Have any first hand experience riding them?
Also, your shop in Calgary, Ninetimes or Source or...?
Been riding a National Skateboard Co. board that is apparently HLC, according to the first post in this thread anyway. I bought it because it was on sale for cheap and would probably get another one. I'm in Australia though.
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all the sour boards at my shop are hlc, they say made in europe.
Thanks man! Have any first hand experience riding them?
Also, your shop in Calgary, Ninetimes or Source or...?
I skated a Sour board from HLC time ago. It was nice but heavy and it felt "fat". Like the layers were bigger than usual. It felt like cheap stuff.
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What was the concave on your logo deck like? My old scumco got stolen and I just got a new logo deck yesterday that's from control (or at least I assume that's where it's from, it has a Made in Canada sticker) and the concave is pretty mellow. I'd say it's mellower than any of the Pennswood decks I've seen, and it seems thinner/lighter too but Pennswood decks are pretty sturdy so that's not really a surprise. I'm still waiting for the trucks and grip I ordered so I haven't skated it yet but I'm excited to see how it handles.
My friend who doesn't even skate bought a Troika pennswood deck that's marked "8.38 steep" so I'm going to set them up at the same time so I can compare them.
Control was mellow compared to the Penswood.
I skated a Sour board from HLC time ago. It was nice but heavy and it felt "fat". Like the layers were bigger than usual. It felt like cheap stuff.
Second that for all HLC crap.
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14.00"
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14.00"
imo very short
14"-15" is usual, everything outside would tip towards "extremes"
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14.00"
imo very short
14"-15" is usual, everything outside would tip towards "extremes"
I notice how short of feels when I try to Ollie, it feels like I have to put a lot more effort in because it’s so short. I skated an AH SE and that felt longer than this one. Gave my AH away.
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Does anyone know the wheel base on the G027 shape on chocolate?
14.00"
imo very short
14"-15" is usual, everything outside would tip towards "extremes"
Huh. I actually feel like it's helped my ollies/flips since you don't have to slide your foot "that" much farther, although I could see the argument that the longer wb would help gain more friction foot slide hence higher ollies...
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Does anyone know more about dog town skateboards, the shop, quality, resin, etc.
thank you
Is it a faux pas to quote yourself?
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I doubt he’d get back to you but
@heavymetalchuck On Instagram works for dogtown now I think
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He didn’t.
But I got a 8.75 loose trucks on sale, i’ll set up over the weekend and see for myself.
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Anyone know which woodshed does Tired?
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Anyone know which woodshed does Tired?
Almost 100% positive that is PS
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So dog town is also ps stix
It has a stamp reading
„Hand crafted in USA by ps stix“
Very mellow and has a few chips on two of the veneer layers
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Correctomundo
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Just got my first PS Stix board in over 10 years after riding nothing but Generator and Chapman. I got a GX1000 board.
Within the first 10 minutes of riding it I have determined that this might be the worst board I've ever skated in 20 years.
First, the tail is way the fuck too square'd. You can feel the board heavily scraping the ground every time you try a flip trick, and flip tricks feel really sloppy and slow. The squared nose doesn't bother me, but that tail is useless. It didn't look that bad at the shop, but once I got home and gripped it I had an "oh shit" moment.
Second and worst of all, this is the shittiest wood I've ever skated. The board feels like it was pressed with old rotting wood.. no stiffness whatsoever. You feel the tail flexing when ollieing. It feels dead; no pop at all and you can feel that thing flexing just pushing around, it is just so soft. Zero torsional stiffness at all. My 1-year old Hotel Blue (Chapman) that was beaten to hell and somehow never snapped feels much stiffer.
I've got about an hour on this board and I'm getting a Real this afternoon. How PS has that big of a following is beyond me.
I think I had similar thoughts when I got my first one about 6 months ago. The square shape certainly took me a session or two to figure out, but once I got my stuff dialed back in I love it! Maybe what you received was a one off issue, every Quasi board I have ridden is very snappy pop, I will also say they sog out after about 2-3 weeks. Maybe GX is using different glues or veneers.
That's the real issue; you can go to any woodshop and pick your veneer and glue quality. So just because it's PSStix, doesn't mean it's the same.
I just came from Primitive (BBS I think)->Clutch->Dlx. The Primitive somehow went dead after two weeks, just a clunky mess (fucking great 8.25" shape tho, one of the best 'squaroundfull' noses and tails out...)
Clutch (skatewarehouse shop deck) was nice, felt PSstix-like but didn't sog out, it razor tailed fast because I suck at manuals but was better at them on this board.
Moved to DLX and FFS it was like riding a watered down pillow after a few days...I've had this happen a number of times...and seemingly tied to Krookeds (REAL Full SEs aways felt great for the life of the board).
So I said fuck it and went to Dwindle, specifically an impact light FULL shape. Light, stiff and crispy as fuck. Ollies just crack. I've always been a fan of their wood.
Honestly, it's amazing the quality difference out of the shrink with dwindle, it just looks and feels like a better product, right down to the slightly countersunk truck holes through the carbon fiber.
Going to stick with the Dwindle for the foreseeable future, especially if I can keep nabbing the 8.3s in Full, impact lights (medium kicks/concave this time but prefer steep kicks full concave). R7s are also great if you don't go impact ($$).
Hell, I bet the R7 darkstars feel better than most.
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Just got my first PS Stix board in over 10 years after riding nothing but Generator and Chapman. I got a GX1000 board.
Within the first 10 minutes of riding it I have determined that this might be the worst board I've ever skated in 20 years.
First, the tail is way the fuck too square'd. You can feel the board heavily scraping the ground every time you try a flip trick, and flip tricks feel really sloppy and slow. The squared nose doesn't bother me, but that tail is useless. It didn't look that bad at the shop, but once I got home and gripped it I had an "oh shit" moment.
Second and worst of all, this is the shittiest wood I've ever skated. The board feels like it was pressed with old rotting wood.. no stiffness whatsoever. You feel the tail flexing when ollieing. It feels dead; no pop at all and you can feel that thing flexing just pushing around, it is just so soft. Zero torsional stiffness at all. My 1-year old Hotel Blue (Chapman) that was beaten to hell and somehow never snapped feels much stiffer.
I've got about an hour on this board and I'm getting a Real this afternoon. How PS has that big of a following is beyond me.
I think I had similar thoughts when I got my first one about 6 months ago. The square shape certainly took me a session or two to figure out, but once I got my stuff dialed back in I love it! Maybe what you received was a one off issue, every Quasi board I have ridden is very snappy pop, I will also say they sog out after about 2-3 weeks. Maybe GX is using different glues or veneers.
That's the real issue; you can go to any woodshop and pick your veneer and glue quality. So just because it's PSStix, doesn't mean it's the same.
I just came from Primitive (BBS I think)->Clutch->Dlx. The Primitive somehow went dead after two weeks, just a clunky mess (fucking great 8.25" shape tho, one of the best 'squaroundfull' noses and tails out...)
Clutch (skatewarehouse shop deck) was nice, felt PSstix-like but didn't sog out, it razor tailed fast because I suck at manuals but was better at them on this board.
Moved to DLX and FFS it was like riding a watered down pillow after a few days...I've had this happen a number of times...and seemingly tied to Krookeds (REAL Full SEs aways felt great for the life of the board).
So I said fuck it and went to Dwindle, specifically an impact light FULL shape. Light, stiff and crispy as fuck. Ollies just crack. I've always been a fan of their wood.
Honestly, it's amazing the quality difference out of the shrink with dwindle, it just looks and feels like a better product, right down to the slightly countersunk truck holes through the carbon fiber.
Going to stick with the Dwindle for the foreseeable future, especially if I can keep nabbing the 8.3s in Full, impact lights (medium kicks/concave this time but prefer steep kicks full concave). R7s are also great if you don't go impact ($$).
Hell, I bet the R7 darkstars feel better than most.
The crucial problem with the elusive impact light. You will always find some 7.75 or 8.1 elcamino Wilson or something. Now it's that or an 8.75 madness. Impacts are amazing though and the paint quality is also very impressive out of the wrap on those boards.
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Correctomundo
Thanks much.
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So after giving the GX1000 board a second chance, I still don’t like it at all. Shape still doesn’t work for me personally, and I’ve got old beat up boards in my closet that are so much stiffer. Short, squared tail still doesn’t work for me. Nose is short too, the whole set up just feels weird with Ventures and I sure as shit ain’t changing trucks.
It literally feels like an old board that was skated to death.
I’ve got a Morning Bell (Canadian brand that uses South Central) coming in this week and I’m stoked. I have never broken a South Central board, however I haven’t skated a lot, they’re kinda rare in Canada so I’m glad I found this brand.
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I keep hearing great things about PS Stix, but I just broke my second flip deck in like a month and a half...
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Just got my first PS Stix board in over 10 years after riding nothing but Generator and Chapman. I got a GX1000 board.
Within the first 10 minutes of riding it I have determined that this might be the worst board I've ever skated in 20 years.
First, the tail is way the fuck too square'd. You can feel the board heavily scraping the ground every time you try a flip trick, and flip tricks feel really sloppy and slow. The squared nose doesn't bother me, but that tail is useless. It didn't look that bad at the shop, but once I got home and gripped it I had an "oh shit" moment.
Second and worst of all, this is the shittiest wood I've ever skated. The board feels like it was pressed with old rotting wood.. no stiffness whatsoever. You feel the tail flexing when ollieing. It feels dead; no pop at all and you can feel that thing flexing just pushing around, it is just so soft. Zero torsional stiffness at all. My 1-year old Hotel Blue (Chapman) that was beaten to hell and somehow never snapped feels much stiffer.
I've got about an hour on this board and I'm getting a Real this afternoon. How PS has that big of a following is beyond me.
I think I had similar thoughts when I got my first one about 6 months ago. The square shape certainly took me a session or two to figure out, but once I got my stuff dialed back in I love it! Maybe what you received was a one off issue, every Quasi board I have ridden is very snappy pop, I will also say they sog out after about 2-3 weeks. Maybe GX is using different glues or veneers.
That's the real issue; you can go to any woodshop and pick your veneer and glue quality. So just because it's PSStix, doesn't mean it's the same.
I just came from Primitive (BBS I think)->Clutch->Dlx. The Primitive somehow went dead after two weeks, just a clunky mess (fucking great 8.25" shape tho, one of the best 'squaroundfull' noses and tails out...)
Clutch (skatewarehouse shop deck) was nice, felt PSstix-like but didn't sog out, it razor tailed fast because I suck at manuals but was better at them on this board.
Moved to DLX and FFS it was like riding a watered down pillow after a few days...I've had this happen a number of times...and seemingly tied to Krookeds (REAL Full SEs aways felt great for the life of the board).
So I said fuck it and went to Dwindle, specifically an impact light FULL shape. Light, stiff and crispy as fuck. Ollies just crack. I've always been a fan of their wood.
Honestly, it's amazing the quality difference out of the shrink with dwindle, it just looks and feels like a better product, right down to the slightly countersunk truck holes through the carbon fiber.
Going to stick with the Dwindle for the foreseeable future, especially if I can keep nabbing the 8.3s in Full, impact lights (medium kicks/concave this time but prefer steep kicks full concave). R7s are also great if you don't go impact ($$).
Hell, I bet the R7 darkstars feel better than most.
I'd love insight into dwindle's runs, clearly they press what's popular (and what they want to push and maybe, what the pros are asking for). The full shape AND full concave/steep kick combos in either R7 or impact light are so fucking elusive...
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I keep hearing great things about PS Stix, but I just broke my second flip deck in like a month and a half...
Why are you skating Flip?
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I keep hearing great things about PS Stix, but I just broke my second flip deck in like a month and a half...
Nostalgia and wanting to support riders that appreciate and grew up idolizing - in this case, Arto.
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In his nine club Shane said April is bbs
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In his nine club Shane said April is bbs
I think i'll be trying one of their boards out soon then. I've been waiting forever to find out who made them
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I think i'll be trying one of their boards out soon then. I've been waiting forever to find out who made them
I'll try one when they put out a graphic that isn't a primitive knock of
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Got the Cyrus Bennett Call me 917 slick with the head dropping acid. It is the EXACT same shape as my beloved 35th North shop deck. If anyone can find the Vincent Touzery with the space ship in a store I will pay shipping to get it.,
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Literally have a Hjalte 8.5 right here (dragon on it) that is 14.38. Had a few team decks including this one: https://www.amazon.com/POLARSKATECO-Polar-Where-Here-Skateboard/dp/B07K8S6876 that I just measured as 14.38. Unless WB is not measured from center to center of the bolt holes.
Well shit. You seem to be right. Just measured my Polar 8.5” that I have waiting and it’s 14.375” and not 14.5” despite what it says on Polar’s website and on the board. Bummer. :(
Just found out I've been living a lie with my 8.375" Polar, which I rather liked even though it felt small from the start. It too has a 14.375" wheelbase, not 14.5" like Polar states. A disgrace! All trust is gone right out the window as did the deck! Back to DLX 14.5" which at least seems to hold true. There really is no trusting anyone's measurements except your own.
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If it skates well who cares?
A nerd like me. :-[
I briefly tried a mate's new board yesterday, a Real 8.25" full and was surprised how good it felt and that made me question everything I believe in. I am very susceptible to gear madness cuz it provides a great excuse for sucking on the board. Changed to a Real 8.5" twin tail. Hoping it'll soothe my madness for now. 😬
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Someone try the wood over mdcn in germany? They make a lot of brands in europe,some years ago they made for polarr
chinese woodshop named xcel or something.
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A nerd like me. :-[
I briefly tried a mate's new board yesterday, a Real 8.25" full and was surprised how good it felt and that made me question everything I believe in. I am very susceptible to gear madness cuz it provides a great excuse for sucking on the board. Changed to a Real 8.5" twin tail. Hoping it'll soothe my madness for now. 😬
I feel you bro. I've been reading lately that Polar sizing are kind of in the wrong side to not say fucked up
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A nerd like me. :-[
I briefly tried a mate's new board yesterday, a Real 8.25" full and was surprised how good it felt and that made me question everything I believe in. I am very susceptible to gear madness cuz it provides a great excuse for sucking on the board. Changed to a Real 8.5" twin tail. Hoping it'll soothe my madness for now. 😬
I have serious madness as well but Deluxe is pretty much the safest bet in my book. I've never stepped on an AH/Real deck that didn't feel good and have great pop. They last a long time too. You can still have madness even just within the Real line though - twin tail, popslickles, SE, low-pro (thats going to be my next real deck) and so on and so forth. I apologize in advance to your bank account.
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A nerd like me. :-[
I briefly tried a mate's new board yesterday, a Real 8.25" full and was surprised how good it felt and that made me question everything I believe in. I am very susceptible to gear madness cuz it provides a great excuse for sucking on the board. Changed to a Real 8.5" twin tail. Hoping it'll soothe my madness for now. 😬
I have serious madness as well but Deluxe is pretty much the safest bet in my book. I've never stepped on an AH/Real deck that didn't feel good and have great pop. They last a long time too. You can still have madness even just within the Real line though - twin tail, popslickles, SE, low-pro (thats going to be my next real deck) and so on and so forth. I apologize in advance to your bank account.
I've bought a whole bunch of Reals and plan on doing so. Loved the normal 8.38" then got another and never got along with it for some reason. The full 8.38" I loved on some sessions and hated on others. The 8.5" with a 14.75" wb is kinda nice but then again might be a bit too long on occasion. The 8.25" full I briefly tried felt amazingly good, which surprises me as sometimes even 8.38" feels too narrow. the 8.3" twin tail feels too small in every way. The 8.5" twin tail I can't say much about yet. Had my first sessions on one today and I pretty much always hate new stuff. Didn't hate it, didn't fall in love. Time will tell. But yes, the madness is real easy with just DLX boards in a narrow width range. 😊
I guess I can mostly blame all this kooking on recovering from my broken leg and trying to blame everything on the equipment instead of accepting that I'm recovering and not good anyway. ;D
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If you want another interesting dlx one try the Antihero hurricanes. They have that weird bevel cut on the rails that is supposed to make it easier to lock in or something. I got it right before I went on my scumco binge so I haven't actually done anything except a little bit of flat ground and a few crappy slappies on it but I really like the shape and the deck is gorgeous. I have the 8.25 Russo one but the GT is the same size and even better looking.
(http://heshdawgz.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/AntiGrantTaylorHurricaneRecolorDeck.jpg)
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If you want another interesting dlx one try the Antihero hurricanes. They have that weird bevel cut on the rails that is supposed to make it easier to lock in or something. I got it right before I went on my scumco binge so I haven't actually done anything except a little bit of flat ground and a few crappy slappies on it but I really like the shape and the deck is gorgeous. I have the 8.25 Russo one but the GT is the same size and even better looking.
(http://heshdawgz.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/AntiGrantTaylorHurricaneRecolorDeck.jpg)
I love this detail. I also really like when the tops aren't routed. I think thats what FOS was talking about when he referred to his new shape as being a "razor top"?
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In his nine club Shane said April is bbs
I am Skating an April deck right now and it’s definitely not PS Stix and from MX, so I guess by default it’s BBS. It’s really thin. Thinnest layers I’ve ever had and the shape is very round making the 8.5 not feel bulky. Also, concave is medium/low.
Stats are 32.25/7/14.4/6.5
I would say it’s a safe basic shape.
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In his nine club Shane said April is bbs
I am Skating an April deck right now and it’s definitely not PS Stix and from MX, so I guess by default it’s BBS. It’s really thin. Thinnest layers I’ve ever had and the shape is very round making the 8.5 not feel bulky. Also, concave is medium/low.
Stats are 32.25/7/14.4/6.5
I would say it’s a safe basic shape.
Is BBS
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General question to anyone, are Habitat decks now exclusively BBS after the re-merge with Workshop, or are they still splitting production with PS? A few of their newer decks have the square nose mellow shape I really dig, like Hockey, but I don't want it to be a dice roll on the woodshop (again, like Hockey).
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General question to anyone, are Habitat decks now exclusively BBS after the re-merge with Workshop, or are they still splitting production with PS? A few of their newer decks have the square nose mellow shape I really dig, like Hockey, but I don't want it to be a dice roll on the woodshop (again, like Hockey).
I’m currently skating one of the nasa boards and I’m pretty sure it’s PS. Has the laser etching and has the serial number or whatever that started with PS in the laser etching
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I’ve had a mixed bag of Habitats from a couple series, I bought a few of the bobs burgers ones from the sale rack and those are PS. All the Harper series appear to be BBS and nasa are all PS. You can discern them pretty easily, PS have the seal between front bolt holes, not always a laser now it seems and BBS have a made in Mexico sticker in the same place
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I’m currently skating one of the nasa boards and I’m pretty sure it’s PS. Has the laser etching and has the serial number or whatever that started with PS in the laser etching
Much appreciated.
I’ve had a mixed bag of Habitats from a couple series, I bought a few of the bobs burgers ones from the sale rack and those are PS. All the Harper series appear to be BBS and nasa are all PS. You can discern them pretty easily, PS have the seal between front bolt holes, not always a laser now it seems and BBS have a made in Mexico sticker in the same place
For sure. I'm just running the risk that if I order one through my local I'm going to end up getting a PS one, in which case I'd rather just pick up a Quasi or GX they already have on the rack and save everybody some time.
I do wish that at least one brand that used BBS exclusively offered that shape. I've got nothing against PS boards in theory, I just happen to skate decks for a long while and PS boards tend to get a bit shit quicker. And I really hate retiring a deck on account of sog. Feels like a waste.
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What graphic/shape were you looking at, it’s pretty easy to find out which series is made by which wood shop
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The 8.3 'World in Decline' team deck they have on the site right now. Zooming in, I can't make out a PS etching. The Nasa 8.3 shape is also on point (but PS as you pointed out).
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If I had to guess just from looking, I’d say it’s PS, I have a ps habitat with that same top graphic. The Marius 8.375 with the sail boat on it is the same shape and dimensions, but I believe BBS, if you can find it
I skate the habitat 8.375 religiously
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If I had to guess just from looking, I’d say it’s PS, I have a ps habitat with that same top graphic. The Marius 8.375 with the sail boat on it is the same shape and dimensions, but I believe BBS, if you can find it
I skate the habitat 8.375 religiously
Much appreciated! I'll be on the look out.
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When you are there can you ask what concave molds they are using. I love Pennswood decks and I wish Scumco had stuck with them.
I actually ended up going with a friend who was buying his first board and got kinda wrapped up in that so I forgot to get measurements but I did chat with a guy at the shop who said the concave is a little different but pretty close to the older silver spoon/kiddie pool with the addition of a medium in-betweener concave to the line. Don't quote me on this as its totally a "friend of a friend said" kind of thing but what I was told is that Pennswood got the roof ripped off their building over the winter and was backed up on orders and that's why ScumCo went to control for this batch of decks.
I guess we'll see when the next batch drops if the move is permanent or if they'll go back to Pennswood or what, but I would definitely be sad to see ScumCo move away from Pennswood permanently since they have the Western PA connection. There's just something cool and beautiful about one the best and most creative small companies being able to get high quality wood from a small manufacturer that could theoretically just float their order down the Allegheny river to Pittsburgh like they used to do with timber.... actually that would be kinda cool to see even though it would ruin the boards.
So I ended up getting one of the Scumco boards pressed at Control. These are my impressions versus the ones pressed at Pennswood. First the decks seem to feel slightly lighter. I went with the medium concave and I would say it feels similar to a Primitive deck in both concave and kick angle. The nose of the deck appears to be slightly more blunt but that could be from moving up to an 8.5 from an 8. The pop on this board is decent and time will tell if that holds over the life of the deck. I do not feel like this deck has the same extreme pop that you get with a Pennswood deck. It doesn't feel soggy but the deck has quite a bit more flex than the Pennswood one, which has a good bit of age on it. It is a nice deck and I love the company but I may find another company that uses Pennswood for my next deck if Scumco decides to stay with Control. Or find a deck from South Central as they feel similar to Pennswood.
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If I had to guess just from looking, I’d say it’s PS, I have a ps habitat with that same top graphic. The Marius 8.375 with the sail boat on it is the same shape and dimensions, but I believe BBS, if you can find it
I skate the habitat 8.375 religiously
I would guess BBS on that just because of not having PS etching in the pics. I could be completely wrong. To your point on the top graphic since the Marius sailboat deck has a similar one I don't think that's a factor. I'm also a Habitat 8.375 guy. Three of the last four I've had have been PS and had the etch. Despite being basically the same shape they have a different feel than the BBS one, hard to even say what it is. I think it's just very minor shape/concave (maybe weight) difference. One of my PS was also hella warped, but I still skated it. BBS also has super high quality graphics/paint. I don't even really have a problem with PS wood (besides the warped one), but I did prefer the BBS deck I had. If that shape just had a LITTLE more concave I'd be even more in love with it.
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in certain photos they crop out the bbs sticker or the ps laser seal. Habitats site do this and a lot of places just cherrypick their stock photo for their own websites.
Skatewarehouse take real product pics, Palelight, if you're real uneasy just ask the shop you intend to buy from if they'll take a photo of the top side of the board for you, i've had a few do this for me, usually they oblige and are pretty quick about it
Edit: As for the quality of a board from either maker, i'm currently skating a BBS made habitat instead of my usual PS Stix ones and theres a noticeable different of feel in this one, its stiffer and slightly rounder than its PS Stix cousin but the board feels like it could last 1000 sessions
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When you are there can you ask what concave molds they are using. I love Pennswood decks and I wish Scumco had stuck with them.
I actually ended up going with a friend who was buying his first board and got kinda wrapped up in that so I forgot to get measurements but I did chat with a guy at the shop who said the concave is a little different but pretty close to the older silver spoon/kiddie pool with the addition of a medium in-betweener concave to the line. Don't quote me on this as its totally a "friend of a friend said" kind of thing but what I was told is that Pennswood got the roof ripped off their building over the winter and was backed up on orders and that's why ScumCo went to control for this batch of decks.
I guess we'll see when the next batch drops if the move is permanent or if they'll go back to Pennswood or what, but I would definitely be sad to see ScumCo move away from Pennswood permanently since they have the Western PA connection. There's just something cool and beautiful about one the best and most creative small companies being able to get high quality wood from a small manufacturer that could theoretically just float their order down the Allegheny river to Pittsburgh like they used to do with timber.... actually that would be kinda cool to see even though it would ruin the boards.
So I ended up getting one of the Scumco boards pressed at Control. These are my impressions versus the ones pressed at Pennswood. First the decks seem to feel slightly lighter. I went with the medium concave and I would say it feels similar to a Primitive deck in both concave and kick angle. The nose of the deck appears to be slightly more blunt but that could be from moving up to an 8.5 from an 8. The pop on this board is decent and time will tell if that holds over the life of the deck. I do not feel like this deck has the same extreme pop that you get with a Pennswood deck. It doesn't feel soggy but the deck has quite a bit more flex than the Pennswood one, which has a good bit of age on it. It is a nice deck and I love the company but I may find another company that uses Pennswood for my next deck if Scumco decides to stay with Control. Or find a deck from South Central as they feel similar to Pennswood.
I live a 5 min bike ride from Control’s factory on the south side of Quebec City, and have been around Control boards the whole time i’ve been skating (20 years). I skated them because I used to get them crazy cheap and they pressed the boards for the shop that hooked me up.. however I have never liked their wood. I find it was never stiff enough and the flexing got significantly worse over time. They used to chip more than BBS boards, but that was years ago, don’t know if that improved. I like stiff boards, and these just didn’t work for me.
Skated well enough, though. I was always stoked to snap one so I could get a discounted BBS after, because I knew I’d skate better.
The C6 shape they have is really good and skates well, but you’ll be probably be needing a new board in a week.
Just got a Morning Bell (Canadian brand from Toronto), and they use South Central wood, and I love it. Stiffest tail I’ve skated in years and pops like a motherfucker. I love it.
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South central makes the best wood but the shapes can sometimes be too much in one direction. I’ve been stuck on DLX for about 18 months now
My friend just got me a scumco deck they did for the polish hill arts fest and it has no PA logo burned in on top so I would bet this is from Control. Kinda bummer but it is 8.75x32.25 14.5wb so a nice size up for scumco
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South central makes the best wood but the shapes can sometimes be too much in one direction. I’ve been stuck on DLX for about 18 months now
My friend just got me a scumco deck they did for the polish hill arts fest and it has no PA logo burned in on top so I would bet this is from Control. Kinda bummer but it is 8.75x32.25 14.5wb so a nice size up for scumco
Some of the Pennswood decks don't have the logo burned in, or any other identifying marks on them. Every control deck I've seen has had a "made in Canada" sticker with a maple leaf on it so if that isn't there youre probably safe. For a small run like that I'd think they'd keep it local and that size/wb is one that I've seen Pennswood from other companies pressed in so they might have just used someone else's molds. Do you have a Pic of it?
Also if it sounds like a wet diaper hitting the ground then it's control.
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Damn the difference in specs between wwoodshops is frustrating. The Chico Brenes renaissance got me inspired to try a wider board with a short wheelbase, so thought I'd set up this Anti Hero Austin Kanfoush "Ginzer" shape I've had lying around unused. It's 8.55, 31.6 long with a 14.125 wheelbase. It didn't look very wide so I compared to the 8.5 WKND that I had just been riding, and the 8.5 wknd was actually wider. I don't even know what to trust anymore.
What even is boardwidth these days.
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South central makes the best wood but the shapes can sometimes be too much in one direction. I’ve been stuck on DLX for about 18 months now
My friend just got me a scumco deck they did for the polish hill arts fest and it has no PA logo burned in on top so I would bet this is from Control. Kinda bummer but it is 8.75x32.25 14.5wb so a nice size up for scumco
Some of the Pennswood decks don't have the logo burned in, or any other identifying marks on them. Every control deck I've seen has had a "made in Canada" sticker with a maple leaf on it so if that isn't there youre probably safe. For a small run like that I'd think they'd keep it local and that size/wb is one that I've seen Pennswood from other companies pressed in so they might have just used someone else's molds. Do you have a Pic of it?
Also if it sounds like a wet diaper hitting the ground then it's control.
Yeah I think Pennswood mainly does the burning on the top of the deck for Scumco (though maybe for a couple other folks, but I havent seen them). I got a batch of decks made with PW and the only identifying marker I’ve seen on mine and the other PW brands I’ve ridden is that they stamp the width of the deck on the bottom of the deck in the middle of the bolt holes for the back truck.
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Yeah I think Pennswood mainly does the burning on the top of the deck for Scumco (though maybe for a couple other folks, but I havent seen them). I got a batch of decks made with PW and the only identifying marker I’ve seen on mine and the other PW brands I’ve ridden is that they stamp the width of the deck on the bottom of the deck in the middle of the bolt holes for the back truck.
They did a custom one for Street Plant for the 2 decks they got done there, and I've seen some other ones too. It's probably one of those things that costs a little extra so most people leave it out. I've got a Pw ScumCo that I'm pretty sure had no markings at all, not even the width. I'm not going to peel the grip off and check but the main point is that even with ScumCo's don't fret if it doesn't have the little PA shaped burn - it doesn't mean it's the shit wood. All of the Control decks I've ended up with had the maple leaf sticker and every one I've seen online has it too.
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Yeah I think Pennswood mainly does the burning on the top of the deck for Scumco (though maybe for a couple other folks, but I havent seen them). I got a batch of decks made with PW and the only identifying marker I’ve seen on mine and the other PW brands I’ve ridden is that they stamp the width of the deck on the bottom of the deck in the middle of the bolt holes for the back truck.
They did a custom one for Street Plant for the 2 decks they got done there, and I've seen some other ones too. It's probably one of those things that costs a little extra so most people leave it out. I've got a Pw ScumCo that I'm pretty sure had no markings at all, not even the width. I'm not going to peel the grip off and check but the main point is that even with ScumCo's don't fret if it doesn't have the little PA shaped burn - it doesn't mean it's the shit wood. All of the Control decks I've ended up with had the maple leaf sticker and every one I've seen online has it too.
Yeah, definitely not a huge deal. The only reason I brought it up is because when I got my order, the stamps on the bottom of the deck helped me tell which sizes were which because some of the sizes were very close and hard to eyeball. Figured it might be useful if anyone else ends up with the same problem :)
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When you are there can you ask what concave molds they are using. I love Pennswood decks and I wish Scumco had stuck with them.
I actually ended up going with a friend who was buying his first board and got kinda wrapped up in that so I forgot to get measurements but I did chat with a guy at the shop who said the concave is a little different but pretty close to the older silver spoon/kiddie pool with the addition of a medium in-betweener concave to the line. Don't quote me on this as its totally a "friend of a friend said" kind of thing but what I was told is that Pennswood got the roof ripped off their building over the winter and was backed up on orders and that's why ScumCo went to control for this batch of decks.
I guess we'll see when the next batch drops if the move is permanent or if they'll go back to Pennswood or what, but I would definitely be sad to see ScumCo move away from Pennswood permanently since they have the Western PA connection. There's just something cool and beautiful about one the best and most creative small companies being able to get high quality wood from a small manufacturer that could theoretically just float their order down the Allegheny river to Pittsburgh like they used to do with timber.... actually that would be kinda cool to see even though it would ruin the boards.
So I ended up getting one of the Scumco boards pressed at Control. These are my impressions versus the ones pressed at Pennswood. First the decks seem to feel slightly lighter. I went with the medium concave and I would say it feels similar to a Primitive deck in both concave and kick angle. The nose of the deck appears to be slightly more blunt but that could be from moving up to an 8.5 from an 8. The pop on this board is decent and time will tell if that holds over the life of the deck. I do not feel like this deck has the same extreme pop that you get with a Pennswood deck. It doesn't feel soggy but the deck has quite a bit more flex than the Pennswood one, which has a good bit of age on it. It is a nice deck and I love the company but I may find another company that uses Pennswood for my next deck if Scumco decides to stay with Control. Or find a deck from South Central as they feel similar to Pennswood.
Skated well enough, though. I was always stoked to snap one so I could get a discounted BBS after, because I knew I’d skate better.
The C6 shape they have is really good and skates well, but you’ll be probably be needing a new board in a week.
Just got a Morning Bell (Canadian brand from Toronto), and they use South Central wood, and I love it. Stiffest tail I’ve skated in years and pops like a motherfucker. I love it.
Tried a scumco from Control. It was truly awful... made no sound at all when I popped it... never a good sign.
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So I ended up getting one of the Scumco boards pressed at Control. These are my impressions versus the ones pressed at Pennswood. First the decks seem to feel slightly lighter. I went with the medium concave and I would say it feels similar to a Primitive deck in both concave and kick angle. The nose of the deck appears to be slightly more blunt but that could be from moving up to an 8.5 from an 8. The pop on this board is decent and time will tell if that holds over the life of the deck. I do not feel like this deck has the same extreme pop that you get with a Pennswood deck. It doesn't feel soggy but the deck has quite a bit more flex than the Pennswood one, which has a good bit of age on it. It is a nice deck and I love the company but I may find another company that uses Pennswood for my next deck if Scumco decides to stay with Control. Or find a deck from South Central as they feel similar to Pennswood.
Sounds like you went through the phase I initially did where I figured "oh they wouldn't put out a deck on shit wood... they're ScumCo... it must be me" and tried to convince myself that the pop wasn't that bad or I just got a bad one. Then SneakySecrets got one and had the same experience. Then I got two more and they were the same.
I've heard from a couple people that Pennswood takes forever to fulfill orders (you can't rush quality I guess) so I'm wondering if it wasn't a case of them not being able to get an order done fast enough for ScumCo to do a summer release, especially given that ScumCo has gotten more popular and I'm sure the orders are bigger now than they used to be. Even if that's the case though, I'd much rather they use SC or Chapman or one of the Cali places, or if you're going to go out of the US go for Generator. In the meantime, if you or anyone else wants a Pennswood deck shoot me a PM and I'll try to point you in the right direction. They're sometimes hard to find because they mostly do small brands, but they're out there.
I think the best thing to do is to email ScumCo and let them know the wood is just bad, actually its not even just bad - it's old crail bad. I've got a beat up old chinese creature price point that isn't as dead as these were straight out of the plastic. I've got his address so maybe I'll put dogshit on one and light it on fire and ring his doorbell.
Also, Terror of Planet X new decks aren't on Pennswood anymore, they're Quincy now.
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Anybody know anything about meridian skateboards? They have an 8.25 with a 14.5wb but I can't find anything about their wood
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Thinking of getting a Zoo York deck because nostalgia/regional pride. I saw Chapman mentioned awhile back in the thread, but does anyone have any recent experience with them?
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Thinking of getting a Zoo York deck because nostalgia/regional pride. I saw Chapman mentioned awhile back in the thread, but does anyone have any recent experience with them?
I got one of Zoo Yorks Matt reason Keys reissue decks from the Chapman site two or three years ago. I loved the deck. Shape was awesome, wood was good. Not sure if the rest of the decks on their site are the same, but when I emailed them they said 90% of the decks on their site are that same shape/concave which was on the steeper side of medium.
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Don't know if this has been mentioned or not, but AFAIK Chapman no longer has a woodshop and outsources their pressing to (I believe) Clutch.
A friend ordered some Chapman blanks to paint and gave me one, and it was shaped and stamped like a Clutch.
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That's a bummer to hear....those boards were pretty indestructible.....I wonder where Hopps are getting pressed....clutch maybe too.
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Don't know if this has been mentioned or not, but AFAIK Chapman no longer has a woodshop and outsources their pressing to (I believe) Clutch.
A friend ordered some Chapman blanks to paint and gave me one, and it was shaped and stamped like a Clutch.
Deets for identifying?
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Don't know if this has been mentioned or not, but AFAIK Chapman no longer has a woodshop and outsources their pressing to (I believe) Clutch.
A friend ordered some Chapman blanks to paint and gave me one, and it was shaped and stamped like a Clutch.
Deets for identifying?
They have a stamped letter and a number that is a code for shape and size (example: P8). They also have the little dot indentation by the front truck holes (I think other shops might do this too though).
https://rayzlv.wixsite.com/clutchdistribution/copy-of-shapes-1
The one I had was great.
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Don't know if this has been mentioned or not, but AFAIK Chapman no longer has a woodshop and outsources their pressing to (I believe) Clutch.
A friend ordered some Chapman blanks to paint and gave me one, and it was shaped and stamped like a Clutch.
Deets for identifying?
They have a stamped letter and a number that is a code for shape and size (example: P8). They also have the little dot indentation by the front truck holes (I think other shops might do this too though).
https://rayzlv.wixsite.com/clutchdistribution/copy-of-shapes-1
The one I had was great.
Yeah, mine was 7.75" with the K3 stamp.
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(https://i.imgur.com/DKde5bF.jpg)
PS Stix quality! A Welcome Nora deck from a year or so back that's been hanging there unused waiting to be set up at some point. I guess I can just throw it in the trash instead. ::)
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Unlucky Roisto, always sucks to lose a deck through no fault of your own. I've been avoiding them for a while and you're making me feel better about that choice.
Meridian actually got back to me within 24 hours when I asked through their site, so kudos to them for both the customer service and transparency. They said they're mostly done on ASF/Clutch with some Bareback in the mix. I'll be happy either way, but I've wanted to try a clutch deck for a while so I'm hyped for it.
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Looking at hopps board in person I can say that they looks like all the other theories brand shape and concave. Looks like the standard mold from bbs/gen. The concave looks like alltimers, passport, killingfloor, magenta concaves.
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good to know...thanks...maybe I'll skate one again...
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Thinking of getting a Zoo York deck because nostalgia/regional pride. I saw Chapman mentioned awhile back in the thread, but does anyone have any recent experience with them?
I’ve had a bunch of Chapmans and always loved the wood, it’s just hard to come by. Super stiff and poppy, never chipped, razortail wasn’t that bad and had awesome shapes. I have a one-year old Hotel Blue I really beat up and it still feels crispy-ish
One thing to keep in mind, though: I’ve seen a lot of warped Chapmans throughout the years and have even received a couple. If you get a nice straight un-warped board, you’ll love it.
They’re getting harder and harder to come by, so good luck.
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Boards I have liked:
-35th North shop decks (Generator): 8.25, 31.875, 14.19 WB w/Indy 149 and Thunder 148 (snappy, good pop, rad shop to support)
-Polar 8.5 w/Indy 149 and Ace 44(Loved it with Ace's, but fuck was this setup heavy as hell)
-Quasi Proto 8.25 w/Ace 44(Super fun, a little squirrely to ride, oddly short tail)
-Krooked 8.06 Full w/Venture 5.6 (Bit narrow, but snappy and very stable)
Boards I haven't liked:
-FA/Hockey 8.38 w/Indy 149 (Literally never felt worse on a deck, no clue why)
-FA 8.25 w/Indy 149, Thunder 149 with the terminator graphic (mad ghost pop, generally felt too unstable)
-Quasi 8.38 w/Ace 44 shape (Same as my FA/Hockey experience)
-Polar 8.38 w/Ace 44 (Just never got along with how it felt overall)
-Magenta Ocean Howell 8.38 tried every truck with it, worst deck (felt fucking dead and soggy)
-917 8.25 slick w/ 14.19 WB w/Indy 149 and Venture 5.6 (zero nollie game, board feels dead and soggy, ok with Indy)
Middle Ground:
-FA 8.5 (Fun, snappy, mega squared off. Was a blast with 149's and 54's, but had no flip trick game)
-Grimple 8.28 w/Thunder 148 (Feels a bit too short and squirrely maybe, might need to give it more of a chance).
I'm tired of buying a deck and hating it. Other than looking at specs online, can anyone help determine what about these deck combos I'm not liking and what I should potentially look at trying? I generally like flatter lateral concave.
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I’ve never had a south central but I just got a bacon and I love it. Hoping the pop stays. It’s a little more concave than I usually skate and I’m into it.
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Boards I have liked:
-35th North shop decks (Generator): 8.25, 31.875, 14.19 WB w/Indy 149 and Thunder 148 (snappy, good pop, rad shop to support)
-Polar 8.5 w/Indy 149 and Ace 44(Loved it with Ace's, but fuck was this setup heavy as hell)
-Quasi Proto 8.25 w/Ace 44(Super fun, a little squirrely to ride, oddly short tail)
-Krooked 8.06 Full w/Venture 5.6 (Bit narrow, but snappy and very stable)
Boards I haven't liked:
-FA/Hockey 8.38 w/Indy 149 (Literally never felt worse on a deck, no clue why)
-FA 8.25 w/Indy 149, Thunder 149 with the terminator graphic (mad ghost pop, generally felt too unstable)
-Quasi 8.38 w/Ace 44 shape (Same as my FA/Hockey experience)
-Polar 8.38 w/Ace 44 (Just never got along with how it felt overall)
-Magenta Ocean Howell 8.38 tried every truck with it, worst deck (felt fucking dead and soggy)
-917 8.25 slick w/ 14.19 WB w/Indy 149 and Venture 5.6 (zero nollie game, board feels dead and soggy, ok with Indy)
Middle Ground:
-FA 8.5 (Fun, snappy, mega squared off. Was a blast with 149's and 54's, but had no flip trick game)
-Grimple 8.28 w/Thunder 148 (Feels a bit too short and squirrely maybe, might need to give it more of a chance).
I'm tired of buying a deck and hating it. Other than looking at specs online, can anyone help determine what about these deck combos I'm not liking and what I should potentially look at trying? I generally like flatter lateral concave.
I thought it was just me, had that same board and I hated it from the start, had to retire it after a month of bad sessions...
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It's weird- it and the 917 legit just sound dead when you touch the nose or tail to the ground. The board seems to have zero pop.
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DGK deck atre made in china like girl/chocolate.
Worst Wood ever
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DGK deck atre made in china like girl/chocolate.
Worst Wood ever
I could be wrong but I just saw a video of stevie walking through the BBS plant.
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DGK deck atre made in china like girl/chocolate.
Worst Wood ever
I could be wrong but I just saw a video of stevie walking through trying to demolish the BBS plant.
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Thinking of getting a Zoo York deck because nostalgia/regional pride. I saw Chapman mentioned awhile back in the thread, but does anyone have any recent experience with them?
The local company I get boards from are pressed at Chapman and they've been treating me pretty well.
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DGK deck atre made in china like girl/chocolate.
Worst Wood ever
Have you ridden a Girl deck recently? The new wood they're using is way better now.
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DGK deck atre made in china like girl/chocolate.
Worst Wood ever
DGK is made in Mexico at BBS.
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I love when people are like "DGK has the worst wood ever! I only skate Real and Polar!"
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I love when people are like "DGK has the worst wood ever! I only skate Real and Polar!"
that's why Cab addressed it right, you're not a board company if you don't press your boards, you're a board brand/graphic designer firm.
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I love when people are like "DGK has the worst wood ever! I only skate Real and Polar!"
that's why Cab addressed it right, you're not a board company if you don't press your boards, you're a board brand/graphic designer firm.
looking at their insta, DGK seems like a clothing company that makes skateboards
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I love when people are like "DGK has the worst wood ever! I only skate Real and Polar!"
that's why Cab addressed it right, you're not a board company if you don't press your boards, you're a board brand/graphic designer firm.
looking at their insta, DGK seems like a clothing company that makes skateboards designs skateboard graphics.
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what's the current word on toy machine decks?
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what's the current word on toy machine decks?
the current word is: garbage.
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I’ve never had a south central but I just got a bacon and I love it. Hoping the pop stays. It’s a little more concave than I usually skate and I’m into it.
I recently started skating a SC deck too, it's a DOA "flat as fuck" and I really like it. It's up there with Quincy and BBS/Gen (but still slightly below good Pennswood) at the top of my list.
Does yours seem to be thicker or less rounded than other decks? I don't know if its a SC thing or a product of the flat concave or embossing process but it sorta seems like the bottom ply isn't rounded off or sticks out more than other decks I have. It's most noticeable at the nose and tail, you can really feel it when you hold the deck vertically from the top.
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what's the current word on toy machine decks?
They are PS Stix. I've been riding one for a couple weeks, I had a foundation before that. I like the 8.38 shape they have, I think I liked the Foundation shape better though.
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PS has been one of the best woodshops ever....but recently people have had a few complaints leading me to think they can be a bit inconsistent.
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PS has been one of the best woodshops ever....but recently people have had a few complaints leading me to think they can be a bit inconsistent.
I've skated about 10 PS board over the last 6 months and haven't had an issue with a single one
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Thanks for the update....what boards were you skating?
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Thanks for the update....what boards were you skating?
All Quasi
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could i get an updated list of what companies go through who? for example polar, palace, killing floor, dlx, toymachine, girl, zero, alltimers, hotel blue, fa/hockey, quasi, alien, isle, doomsayer. Im working at a skateshop and want to organize our boards by maker
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anyone know if Theories is still using BBS/Generator?
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anyone know if Theories is still using BBS/Generator?
They still mention Generator in the product descriptions for their recent drops,
https://theories-of-atlantis.myshopify.com/collections/theories/products/theories-worldwide-deck-black-green
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could i get an updated list of what companies go through who? for example polar, palace, killing floor, dlx, toymachine, girl, zero, alltimers, hotel blue, fa/hockey, quasi, alien, isle, doomsayer. Im working at a skateshop and want to organize our boards by maker
reach out to the reps, make the list yourself, and share with the thread. You have more access to this information than most!
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anyone know if Theories is still using BBS/Generator?
They still mention Generator in the product descriptions for their recent drops,
https://theories-of-atlantis.myshopify.com/collections/theories/products/theories-worldwide-deck-black-green
thanks man!
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OP list has Habitat under Jart for EU pressings, is this still true/relevant? I've had a fair few boards out of Jart and they've all had solid shapes, my friend picked up one of the Habitat NASA boards and this shit has one of the weirdest shapes I've ever seen. 8.5, nose is very big and square very similar to Hockey boards but the tail is ultra short, kind of squared off almost and there's zero concave on the thing. Like you set up for a 360 flip back foot in the pocket and it's just flat, feels like standing on a fucking table.
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Does anyone know which wood-shops ThankYou and April skateboards are using.
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i've heard that quincy might be going out of business after messing up a few orders this year.
anyone know more about this?
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Anyone know where Send Help decks are made? they used to have made in the midwest stickers so I figured Quincy was making them but not sure.
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Anyone know where Send Help decks are made? they used to have made in the midwest stickers so I figured Quincy was making them but not sure.
they used to be made at south central when they used that sticker.
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Does anyone know which wood-shops ThankYou and April skateboards are using.
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Does anyone know which wood-shops ThankYou and April skateboards are using.
PSSticks
True? Haven’t heard in Thank You, I thought someone on here said April was bbs?
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Just to clarify alien is bbs and habitat is ps?
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Does anyone know which wood-shops ThankYou and April skateboards are using.
PSSticks
True? Haven’t heard in Thank You, I thought someone on here said April was bbs?
my bad, Thank You is PSS.
There was video on Prof Schmidts insta and one of the machines had a print out on it that said "Grizzly (Thank You) instructions"
April is probably BBS
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PSSticks
True? Haven’t heard in Thank You, I thought someone on here said April was bbs?
my bad, Thank You is PSS.
There was video on Prof Schmidts insta and one of the machines had a print out on it that said "Grizzly (Thank You) instructions"
April is probably BBS
Shane said April is BBS in his 9 club
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Just to clarify alien is bbs and habitat is ps?
Kind of. Alien has used BBS exclusively for the last couple years but Habitat changes woodshops. Different series will use either PS or BBS. The recent NASA series was PS (great shapes as well) while the C. Harper series was BBS. I *think* they at least have entire series/drops that utilize one wood shop, unlike say Hockey who will have 3 BBS and 4 PS decks per drop, which is quite annoying.
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Just to clarify alien is bbs and habitat is ps?
Kind of. Alien has used BBS exclusively for the last couple years but Habitat changes woodshops. Different series will use either PS or BBS. The recent NASA series was PS (great shapes as well) while the C. Harper series was BBS. I *think* they at least have entire series/drops that utilize one wood shop, unlike say Hockey who will have 3 BBS and 4 PS decks per drop, which is quite annoying.
Thank you so much. I keep eyeing alien boards because they have some shapes on 14.125 wheel base and I really want to try it. I had a habitat from nasa series loved the nose on it.
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Just to clarify alien is bbs and habitat is ps?
Kind of. Alien has used BBS exclusively for the last couple years but Habitat changes woodshops. Different series will use either PS or BBS. The recent NASA series was PS (great shapes as well) while the C. Harper series was BBS. I *think* they at least have entire series/drops that utilize one wood shop, unlike say Hockey who will have 3 BBS and 4 PS decks per drop, which is quite annoying.
I still can't wrap my head around the NASA shapes, so odd but kind of interesting.
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Does anyone know the woodshop that BLVD / Stereo uses? I used to love the boards from Status back in the early 2000s and I remember they were distributed by Syndrome. Great concave and snappiness, even though they were felt slightly heavy.
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Does anyone know the woodshop that BLVD / Stereo uses? I used to love the boards from Status back in the early 2000s and I remember they were distributed by Syndrome. Great concave and snappiness, even though they were felt slightly heavy.
Not sure about BLVD, but I skated a Stereo a few months back and I'm pretty sure Prime was pressing them at the time.
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OP list has Habitat under Jart for EU pressings, is this still true/relevant? I've had a fair few boards out of Jart and they've all had solid shapes, my friend picked up one of the Habitat NASA boards and this shit has one of the weirdest shapes I've ever seen. 8.5, nose is very big and square very similar to Hockey boards but the tail is ultra short, kind of squared off almost and there's zero concave on the thing. Like you set up for a 360 flip back foot in the pocket and it's just flat, feels like standing on a fucking table.
still true at the moment... Hlc presses boards for habitat but this might change soon
i don't get the rest of your post.
HLC makes boards (for Jart/habitat/sour/etc.)
Jart has its own shapes / molds
Habitat too
edit : op can be a bit misleading.
HLC is the mother company (distribution / production / etc.)
Jart is a board brand
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So I just got an email back from Theories of Atlantis and it's official, Hopps is of Chapman, on Generator. They said everything is bonded at their Long Island warehouse but with Generator wood.
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OP list has Habitat under Jart for EU pressings, is this still true/relevant? I've had a fair few boards out of Jart and they've all had solid shapes, my friend picked up one of the Habitat NASA boards and this shit has one of the weirdest shapes I've ever seen. 8.5, nose is very big and square very similar to Hockey boards but the tail is ultra short, kind of squared off almost and there's zero concave on the thing. Like you set up for a 360 flip back foot in the pocket and it's just flat, feels like standing on a fucking table.
still true at the moment... Hlc presses boards for habitat but this might change soon
i don't get the rest of your post.
HLC makes boards (for Jart/habitat/sour/etc.)
Jart has its own shapes / molds
Habitat too
edit : op can be a bit misleading.
HLC is the mother company (distribution / production / etc.)
Jart is a board brand
Habitat of HLC? Do you have more info?
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Does anyone know where Shorty’s gets their wood these days?
I thought it was prime.....
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could i get an updated list of what companies go through who? for example polar, palace, killing floor, dlx, toymachine, girl, zero, alltimers, hotel blue, fa/hockey, quasi, alien, isle, doomsayer. Im working at a skateshop and want to organize our boards by maker
reach out to the reps, make the list yourself, and share with the thread. You have more access to this information than most!
Sorry for the lack updates.
Just got back onto to slap so I'm going to need to go through the entire thread to update for you guys.
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So I just got an email back from Theories of Atlantis and it's official, Hopps is of Chapman, on Generator. They said everything is bonded at their Long Island warehouse but with Generator wood.
Hopps hasn't been done through Chapman for a while now. Chapman couldn't keep up with orders and I'm not sure what brands they're even pressing at the moment.
I like both woodshops, but the Hopps 8 and 8.125 shapes through Chapman were perfect.
Strongest board I’ve ever had.
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Does anyone know where Shorty’s gets their wood these days?
I thought it was prime.....
I thought I read that as well. And it makes sense, as that seems to be primes niche.
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Anybody have a skateboard cafe board? And where to get? Seem very sold out.
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Madness and New Deal need to be added underneath Dwindle (DSM)
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Chapman and generator are very different boards...
Can you elaborate on the differences? I haven't had either one.
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Cheers man.
Even though April does sound a little dorky.
True? Haven’t heard in Thank You, I thought someone on here said April was bbs?
my bad, Thank You is PSS.
There was video on Prof Schmidts insta and one of the machines had a print out on it that said "Grizzly (Thank You) instructions"
April is probably BBS
Shane said April is BBS in his 9 club
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who makes Sour in the USA? or are they imported? any good?
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i've heard that quincy might be going out of business after messing up a few orders this year.
anyone know more about this?
Their core business seems to be shop boards and blanks so I don't know if there would be too many big orders for them to mess up other than Folklore Project/Stereo and I dont know of any problems with the supply of those boards, but I'm not exactly "in the know" either.
On the other hand, Terror of Planet X has apparently already gone away from Quincy and used Generator for the run of their new decks. I guess they only did a small run of the Graveyard graphic (and 1 or 2 others, I think one was a split open robot head one iirc) on quincy or something which is why that one showed up in some shops before it was up on their site. Apparently all the ones up on the site now are Generator including a rerun of the Graveyard graphic on their wood.
Does anyone know the woodshop that BLVD / Stereo uses? I used to love the boards from Status back in the early 2000s and I remember they were distributed by Syndrome. Great concave and snappiness, even though they were felt slightly heavy.
I dont know what they used back in the day, but from what I understand the Syndrome brands are pretty much all done on Quincy or Watson. Quincy is a newer shop so maybe it was Watson?
TL:DR; My previous report of Terror of Planet X being on Quincy now was incorrect. They're using Generator. Also the new ScumCo logo decks are Pennswood (and the fade/gradient logo ones are gorgeous) but the Pro models are still Control.
I don't know if you're interested in putting smaller brands up but if you are here's a couple that I know of
Pennswood: Troika, Play!, DNA, and they did the Trident deck for Street Plant
South Central: Super 8 (except for the Tie stick which is Pennswood)
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who makes Sour in the USA? or are they imported? any good?
I thought generator but I think they are euro....jart?
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i've heard that quincy might be going out of business after messing up a few orders this year.
anyone know more about this?
Their core business seems to be shop boards and blanks so I don't know if there would be too many big orders for them to mess up other than Folklore Project/Stereo and I dont know of any problems with the supply of those boards, but I'm not exactly "in the know" either.
On the other hand, Terror of Planet X has apparently already gone away from Quincy and used Generator for the run of their new decks. I guess they only did a small run of the Graveyard graphic (and 1 or 2 others, I think one was a split open robot head one iirc) on quincy or something which is why that one showed up in some shops before it was up on their site. Apparently all the ones up on the site now are Generator including a rerun of the Graveyard graphic on their wood.
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Does anyone know the woodshop that BLVD / Stereo uses? I used to love the boards from Status back in the early 2000s and I remember they were distributed by Syndrome. Great concave and snappiness, even though they were felt slightly heavy.
I dont know what they used back in the day, but from what I understand the Syndrome brands are pretty much all done on Quincy or Watson. Quincy is a newer shop so maybe it was Watson?
TL:DR; My previous report of Terror of Planet X being on Quincy now was incorrect. They're using Generator. Also the new ScumCo logo decks are Pennswood (and the fade/gradient logo ones are gorgeous) but the Pro models are still Control.
I don't know if you're interested in putting smaller brands up but if you are here's a couple that I know of
Pennswood: Troika, Play!, DNA, and they did the Trident deck for Street Plant
South Central: Super 8 (except for the Tie stick which is Pennswood)
Nice CSI work, the Watson website is dated 2006 and talked about Fibrelam boards, the ones with wavey texture on the underside of the board.
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Just to clarify alien is bbs and habitat is ps?
Kind of. Alien has used BBS exclusively for the last couple years but Habitat changes woodshops. Different series will use either PS or BBS. The recent NASA series was PS (great shapes as well) while the C. Harper series was BBS. I *think* they at least have entire series/drops that utilize one wood shop, unlike say Hockey who will have 3 BBS and 4 PS decks per drop, which is quite annoying.
I still can't wrap my head around the NASA shapes, so odd but kind of interesting.
yea, had an FA recently with the crazy shovel nose and microscopic tail. ain’t feeling it. I need a board with a girl shape, minus the graphic.
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who makes Sour in the USA? or are they imported? any good?
I thought generator but I think they are euro....jart?
Jart is HLC. Most people seem to hate on their boards alot, but the last two boards i've ridden are from the National Skateboard Co. out of England of which are apparently pressed at HLC. That might have changed but they were nicer than my current Passport board which is Generator.
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Couldn't agree more on current HLC wood quality.
Local shop makes their boards there and they are really great.
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Couldn't agree more on current HLC wood quality.
Local shop makes their boards there and they are really great.
HLC improved a lot since they changed their glue and process. They also moved last year and the new manufacture is super modern. I've been riding almost exclusively HLC wood for the last 3 years (besides some Hopps and Isle here and there) and I feel a really big improvement. I'm currently riding an Habitat made in Europe and the shape is amazing, and the pop is super durable.
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Last HLC boards I tried, I believe it was 2 years ago, felt nice but only for 2 weeks; after that it was wet cardboard.
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Nice CSI work, the Watson website is dated 2006 and talked about Fibrelam boards, the ones with wavey texture on the underside of the board.
Ya unfortunately most woodshops don't have a lot of information on their actual sites. You kind of have to just follow them on social media and/or email board companies and ask them where they get their wood. I find most smaller companies will usually answer you but some will ignore you or give you a bullshit answer like "we use a top industry wood shop with 100% hard Rock Canadian maple wood, buy our board and see the quality!" The companies that are transparent and open with me go on my "to buy" list.
If you do the social media stalking thing it's important to note the date of the post. Companies change wood all the time (as evidenced by this thread) and a lot of companies use multiple shops.
If you're interested in trying Watson I think a good place to start is H-street, they have a lot of different sizes and styles to choose from.
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who makes Sour in the USA? or are they imported? any good?
I just got one, sticker said "made in europe."
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Nice CSI work, the Watson website is dated 2006 and talked about Fibrelam boards, the ones with wavey texture on the underside of the board.
Ya unfortunately most woodshops don't have a lot of information on their actual sites. You kind of have to just follow them on social media and/or email board companies and ask them where they get their wood. I find most smaller companies will usually answer you but some will ignore you or give you a bullshit answer like "we use a top industry wood shop with 100% hard Rock Canadian maple wood, buy our board and see the quality!" The companies that are transparent and open with me go on my "to buy" list.
If you do the social media stalking thing it's important to note the date of the post. Companies change wood all the time (as evidenced by this thread) and a lot of companies use multiple shops.
If you're interested in trying Watson I think a good place to start is H-street, they have a lot of different sizes and styles to choose from.
I'm sure it's nostalgia talking but I really liked that era of Status pro and team boards. My shop used to price them right between a blank and a graphic board, shape, weight and kicks were perfect. It was also a time when I was picking up a lot of new tricks on a regular basis.
The boards of today are probably a lot better than those from 15 years ago. Having information overload about wheelbases, truck heights, kicks, steepness and concave is a curse. Didn't think the difference (in say truck height) was so drastic until I rode my old board with Venture lows (currently riding 149s). Night and day difference. I guess the same would apply for boards.
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Nice CSI work, the Watson website is dated 2006 and talked about Fibrelam boards, the ones with wavey texture on the underside of the board.
Ya unfortunately most woodshops don't have a lot of information on their actual sites. You kind of have to just follow them on social media and/or email board companies and ask them where they get their wood. I find most smaller companies will usually answer you but some will ignore you or give you a bullshit answer like "we use a top industry wood shop with 100% hard Rock Canadian maple wood, buy our board and see the quality!" The companies that are transparent and open with me go on my "to buy" list.
If you do the social media stalking thing it's important to note the date of the post. Companies change wood all the time (as evidenced by this thread) and a lot of companies use multiple shops.
If you're interested in trying Watson I think a good place to start is H-street, they have a lot of different sizes and styles to choose from.
I'm sure it's nostalgia talking but I really liked that era of Status pro and team boards. My shop used to price them right between a blank and a graphic board, shape, weight and kicks were perfect. It was also a time when I was picking up a lot of new tricks on a regular basis.
The boards of today are probably a lot better than those from 15 years ago. Having information overload about wheelbases, truck heights, kicks, steepness and concave is a curse. Didn't think the difference (in say truck height) was so drastic until I rode my old board with Venture lows (currently riding 149s). Night and day difference. I guess the same would apply for boards.
I have more information now. I do not have a plan to apply this information. I haven’t hd a set up where stuff felt right for awhile. I know what the constant is in the sea of variables.
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Nice CSI work, the Watson website is dated 2006 and talked about Fibrelam boards, the ones with wavey texture on the underside of the board.
Ya unfortunately most woodshops don't have a lot of information on their actual sites. You kind of have to just follow them on social media and/or email board companies and ask them where they get their wood. I find most smaller companies will usually answer you but some will ignore you or give you a bullshit answer like "we use a top industry wood shop with 100% hard Rock Canadian maple wood, buy our board and see the quality!" The companies that are transparent and open with me go on my "to buy" list.
If you do the social media stalking thing it's important to note the date of the post. Companies change wood all the time (as evidenced by this thread) and a lot of companies use multiple shops.
If you're interested in trying Watson I think a good place to start is H-street, they have a lot of different sizes and styles to choose from.
I'm sure it's nostalgia talking but I really liked that era of Status pro and team boards. My shop used to price them right between a blank and a graphic board, shape, weight and kicks were perfect. It was also a time when I was picking up a lot of new tricks on a regular basis.
The boards of today are probably a lot better than those from 15 years ago. Having information overload about wheelbases, truck heights, kicks, steepness and concave is a curse. Didn't think the difference (in say truck height) was so drastic until I rode my old board with Venture lows (currently riding 149s). Night and day difference. I guess the same would apply for boards.
I have more information now. I do not have a plan to apply this information. I haven’t hd a set up where stuff felt right for awhile. I know what the constant is in the sea of variables.
It's easy to get caught up in the minutia of your setup, especially as you get older and you get less time on your board than before. You want your setup to be perfect so you get the most out of your session, but for sure it's a rabbit hole that you don't want to get lost in. Regular folk like us probably wont feel the difference as drastically as the pros whose job it is to ride and skate.
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Anyone know what Business & Company is using? I think I remember hearing BBS but can anyone confirm or correct that?
Same question for Beer City, what woodshop do they use? Most of their stuff is outside my comfort zone in terms of size/shape but I really dig some of the graphics.
Also in the unlikely event that anyone was wondering, Weird Wood skateboards is using South Central now.
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TL:DR; My previous report of Terror of Planet X being on Quincy now was incorrect. They're using Generator. Also the new ScumCo logo decks are Pennswood (and the fade/gradient logo ones are gorgeous) but the Pro models are still Control.
Pennswood: Troika, Play!, DNA, and they did the Trident deck for Street Plant
South Central: Super 8 (except for the Tie stick which is Pennswood)
Updated the list. Thanks for the info.
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Anyone know what Business & Company is using? I think I remember hearing BBS but can anyone confirm or correct that?
Same question for Beer City, what woodshop do they use? Most of their stuff is outside my comfort zone in terms of size/shape but I really dig some of the graphics.
Also in the unlikely event that anyone was wondering, Weird Wood skateboards is using South Central now.
I'm not sure which shop Beer City uses but it's somewhere in USA. I can vouch for their quality since I'm a heavy guy and have landed hard on the tail a bunch without it breaking. Oddly the staining has rubbed off the bottom a lot but it's been crispy and tough. I'd recommend them if you can get them.
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I'm not sure which shop Beer City uses but it's somewhere in USA. I can vouch for their quality since I'm a heavy guy and have landed hard on the tail a bunch without it breaking. Oddly the staining has rubbed off the bottom a lot but it's been crispy and tough. I'd recommend them if you can get them.
Thanks for the info. They're definitely on my list to try but I might shoot them an email and see if they'll tell me what shop it is anyways.
If anyone is looking for a slightly cheaper Pennswood deck the dude at the Corner Store in Tennessee just got some really awesome shop decks in. They're 32.25" 14.25" wheelbase, silver spoon (medium) concave and they have a slight taper so like my 8.38 tapers to 8.25 around the trucks - its similar to the older Dave Abair ScumCo decks. I'm in love with mine right now.
https://thecornerstoreskateshop.bigcartel.com/product/corner-store-smoke-em-shop-board
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TL:DR; My previous report of Terror of Planet X being on Quincy now was incorrect. They're using Generator. Also the new ScumCo logo decks are Pennswood (and the fade/gradient logo ones are gorgeous) but the Pro models are still Control.
Pennswood: Troika, Play!, DNA, and they did the Trident deck for Street Plant
South Central: Super 8 (except for the Tie stick which is Pennswood)
Updated the list. Thanks for the info.
Hey I was actually also wrong about Troika, it was only their first run of boards that went through Pennswood so you can remove them from the list. I'm having to correct myself a lot lately, I should probably stop acting like such a know-it-all about this shit when I'm really as clueless as everyone else haha.
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Alright so Lurkville is not on Quincy anymore. They said some are bbs/Gen but they're also using Syndrome's woodshop (I don't know if that's a particular shop or they do it inhouse).
Quincy is in the process of moving their setup to a new location so they aren't making any boards at the moment. They said they should be up and running early next year.
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chris joslin just posted a pic on IG of a plan b board and said it was from dwindle
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chris joslin just posted a pic on IG of a plan b board and said it was from dwindle
https://www.instagram.com/p/B33GnzkFU0C/?igshid=14hhfbn57vgrz
Cool stain though
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Nice CSI work, the Watson website is dated 2006 and talked about Fibrelam boards, the ones with wavey texture on the underside of the board.
Ya unfortunately most woodshops don't have a lot of information on their actual sites. You kind of have to just follow them on social media and/or email board companies and ask them where they get their wood. I find most smaller companies will usually answer you but some will ignore you or give you a bullshit answer like "we use a top industry wood shop with 100% hard Rock Canadian maple wood, buy our board and see the quality!" The companies that are transparent and open with me go on my "to buy" list.
If you do the social media stalking thing it's important to note the date of the post. Companies change wood all the time (as evidenced by this thread) and a lot of companies use multiple shops.
If you're interested in trying Watson I think a good place to start is H-street, they have a lot of different sizes and styles to choose from.
I'm sure it's nostalgia talking but I really liked that era of Status pro and team boards. My shop used to price them right between a blank and a graphic board, shape, weight and kicks were perfect. It was also a time when I was picking up a lot of new tricks on a regular basis.
The boards of today are probably a lot better than those from 15 years ago. Having information overload about wheelbases, truck heights, kicks, steepness and concave is a curse. Didn't think the difference (in say truck height) was so drastic until I rode my old board with Venture lows (currently riding 149s). Night and day difference. I guess the same would apply for boards.
When I first started skating in late '99 I was in 5th grade my cousin who was in high school had a couple buddies next door that skated and one of them was fucking with Status heavy at that point. So same thing with the nostalgia maybe but looking back on it that company just really fit the era and had this cool kinda of underground feel to it which skateboarding had in general.So it felt like the "cool kids" brand of the time. Good times.
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chris joslin just posted a pic on IG of a plan b board and said it was from dwindle
As much as this doesn't matter, I think it shows how PS has been having some problems ie. they can't keep up...there's now few brands that always use them...,
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Nice CSI work, the Watson website is dated 2006 and talked about Fibrelam boards, the ones with wavey texture on the underside of the board.
Ya unfortunately most woodshops don't have a lot of information on their actual sites. You kind of have to just follow them on social media and/or email board companies and ask them where they get their wood. I find most smaller companies will usually answer you but some will ignore you or give you a bullshit answer like "we use a top industry wood shop with 100% hard Rock Canadian maple wood, buy our board and see the quality!" The companies that are transparent and open with me go on my "to buy" list.
If you do the social media stalking thing it's important to note the date of the post. Companies change wood all the time (as evidenced by this thread) and a lot of companies use multiple shops.
If you're interested in trying Watson I think a good place to start is H-street, they have a lot of different sizes and styles to choose from.
I'm sure it's nostalgia talking but I really liked that era of Status pro and team boards. My shop used to price them right between a blank and a graphic board, shape, weight and kicks were perfect. It was also a time when I was picking up a lot of new tricks on a regular basis.
The boards of today are probably a lot better than those from 15 years ago. Having information overload about wheelbases, truck heights, kicks, steepness and concave is a curse. Didn't think the difference (in say truck height) was so drastic until I rode my old board with Venture lows (currently riding 149s). Night and day difference. I guess the same would apply for boards.
When I first started skating in late '99 I was in 5th grade my cousin who was in high school had a couple buddies next door that skated and one of them was fucking with Status heavy at that point. So same thing with the nostalgia maybe but looking back on it that company just really fit the era and had this cool kinda of underground feel to it which skateboarding had in general.So it felt like the "cool kids" brand of the time. Good times.
The guys I used to skate with loved them, we only had asphalt and rough concrete ground to skate so our nose and tails would get worn down really fast. Status boards were being priced right between blank and graphic boards, around $35 each with grip tape so they were a real value buy.
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chris joslin just posted a pic on IG of a plan b board and said it was from dwindle
As much as this doesn't matter, I think it shows how PS has been having some problems ie. they can't keep up...there's now few brands that always use them...,
The only brands I see with any frequency that still use PS is WKND, Quasi, and Welcome. If Quasi started using BBS I would not be mad.
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Toy Machine too (pro models only), I think WKND uses generator too sometimes....
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Toy Machine too (pro models only), I think WKND uses generator too sometimes....
No shit? Good to know. Not many BBS offerings with big square noses. I'll keep an eye out.
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Toy Machine too (pro models only), I think WKND uses generator too sometimes....
No shit? Good to know. Not many BBS offerings with big square noses. I'll keep an eye out.
Is alien bbs? They have some large noses.
I think some of the fa/hockey is bbs, but I’m not sure which. I got the Sage board, nose almost comically large, but works well.
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Toy Machine too (pro models only), I think WKND uses generator too sometimes....
No shit? Good to know. Not many BBS offerings with big square noses. I'll keep an eye out.
Is alien bbs? They have some large noses.
I think some of the fa/hockey is bbs, but I’m not sure which. I got the Sage board, nose almost comically large, but works well.
Alien is BBS, big nose and tail. Currently running the Freddy reissue in 8.5 (32.38 overall, 14.125 WB).
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Toy Machine too (pro models only), I think WKND uses generator too sometimes....
No shit? Good to know. Not many BBS offerings with big square noses. I'll keep an eye out.
Is alien bbs? They have some large noses.
I think some of the fa/hockey is bbs, but I’m not sure which. I got the Sage board, nose almost comically large, but works well.
Alien is BBS, big nose and tail. Currently running the Freddy reissue in 8.5 (32.38 overall, 14.125 WB).
I’m a little worried about the length, I’m way shorter than you, but the shapes/concave/their thing has me stoked right now. That’s my favorite wheelbase. It’s such high maintenance, finicky number, but.... I didn’t see that wb being used on any of their smaller shapes. The boards definitely stood out in person.
You like it?
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Toy Machine too (pro models only), I think WKND uses generator too sometimes....
No shit? Good to know. Not many BBS offerings with big square noses. I'll keep an eye out.
Is alien bbs? They have some large noses.
I think some of the fa/hockey is bbs, but I’m not sure which. I got the Sage board, nose almost comically large, but works well.
Alien is BBS, big nose and tail. Currently running the Freddy reissue in 8.5 (32.38 overall, 14.125 WB).
I’m a little worried about the length, I’m way shorter than you, but the shapes/concave/their thing has me stoked right now. That’s my favorite wheelbase. It’s such high maintenance, finicky number, but.... I didn’t see that wb being used on any of their smaller shapes. The boards definitely stood out in person.
You like it?
Yeah, it's long, lots of flat. The kick of those nose and tail don't seems as drastically different at the FA boards I've seen in the wild. Also seems like a lot of their smaller/shorter boards run a longer WB, so I don't know. I've skated 3 of them in the past year, running venture 5.8, Indy 149, and now Ace 44s (best combo so far by any measure). I wish the nose wasn't so blunt but that is mostly an aesthetic preference.
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is it common for brands to always use the same shape? even for different pro models?
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chris joslin just posted a pic on IG of a plan b board and said it was from dwindle
Cool stain though
Damn, guess losing Chris and Leticia hurt their bank account badly.
Also Alien Workshop, Habitat, Toy Machine (pro models), and Foundation (pro models) are all PS
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I'm off the giant noses now but it seems as if even when FA/Hockey/Alien use BBS, they keep the same shapes at least...
Indeed. I usually try and find the Hockey 8.38's that are BBS, it's never consistent though between drops. Last Alien I had (Yaje I think), was very much a pointier nose and tail, sort of like a standard DLX shape, but that was a few years back.
Damn, guess losing Chris and Leticia hurt their bank account badly.
Also Alien Workshop, Habitat, Toy Machine (pro models), and Foundation (pro models) are all PS
Pretty sure Alien has used BBS consistently since their relaunch, haven't seen an Alien PS board since GT was on the team, but if you have other info, do share. Habitat uses both, usually for different series (their NASA series used PS and had probably the biggest squarest noses I've seen).
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Alien is all BBS for sure.
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I'm off the giant noses now but it seems as if even when FA/Hockey/Alien use BBS, they keep the same shapes at least...
Indeed. I usually try and find the Hockey 8.38's that are BBS, it's never consistent though between drops. Last Alien I had (Yaje I think), was very much a pointier nose and tail, sort of like a standard DLX shape, but that was a few years back.
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Damn, guess losing Chris and Leticia hurt their bank account badly.
Also Alien Workshop, Habitat, Toy Machine (pro models), and Foundation (pro models) are all PS
Pretty sure Alien has used BBS consistently since their relaunch, haven't seen an Alien PS board since GT was on the team, but if you have other info, do share. Habitat uses both, usually for different series (their NASA series used PS and had probably the biggest squarest noses I've seen).
I actually might just be assuming since Habitat and AWS are under the same distributor. Next time my shop gets AWS decks I'll check.
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I can attest to the width of the NASA habitats them shits felt like they tapered wider from tail to nose
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How's the quality of DSM these days? I heard crailtap got their shit together at least. I used to love DSM shapes but the boards chipped like crazy. I wonder if the shipping process of moving the wood from NA to China and back to NA or wherever affects the quality significantly. I doubt there's good humidity control shipping overseas so maybe Girl and DSM boards skate better in China since they're "fresher?" Or I'm just totally off.
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I've seen some palace boards do weird things, like almost shatter.....I skated one and I just don't like the lay up, the kicks. Not as good as a generator/BBS board, didn't stay as snappy but not a bad board. Lots of people skate NHS without complaints...
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I've seen some palace boards do weird things, like almost shatter.....I skated one and I just don't like the lay up, the kicks. Not as good as a generator/BBS board, didn't stay as snappy but not a bad board. Lots of people skate NHS without complaints...
Yeah BBS has been my go to. I'm just biased because I grew up skating DSM boards so I like the shape, but I wouldn't be surprised of a decrease in quality. I doubt I'm gonna buy one anytime soon but interesting to hear about.
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Yeah, what is cool,is the DSM and girl have different dimensions and wheelbases that are hard to find with generator/BBS stuff...it's a bit of a trade off..
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I've seen some palace boards do weird things, like almost shatter.....I skated one and I just don't like the lay up, the kicks. Not as good as a generator/BBS board, didn't stay as snappy but not a bad board. Lots of people skate NHS without complaints...
Yeah BBS has been my go to. I'm just biased because I grew up skating DSM boards so I like the shape, but I wouldn't be surprised of a decrease in quality. I doubt I'm gonna buy one anytime soon but interesting to hear about.
dsm/dwindle branded decks with resin are different in quality to palace oem decks built at dsm.
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I've seen some palace boards do weird things, like almost shatter.....I skated one and I just don't like the lay up, the kicks. Not as good as a generator/BBS board, didn't stay as snappy but not a bad board. Lots of people skate NHS without complaints...
Yeah BBS has been my go to. I'm just biased because I grew up skating DSM boards so I like the shape, but I wouldn't be surprised of a decrease in quality. I doubt I'm gonna buy one anytime soon but interesting to hear about.
dsm/dwindle branded decks with resin are different in quality to palace oem decks built at dsm.
I’ve heard the palace boards are really bad, but never had one. And skate rumors are real silly.
Girl has always had great shape/dimensions. My latest girl board is for sure not the best board I’ve ever had, but it’s really really solid.
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I've seen some palace boards do weird things, like almost shatter.....I skated one and I just don't like the lay up, the kicks. Not as good as a generator/BBS board, didn't stay as snappy but not a bad board. Lots of people skate NHS without complaints...
Yeah BBS has been my go to. I'm just biased because I grew up skating DSM boards so I like the shape, but I wouldn't be surprised of a decrease in quality. I doubt I'm gonna buy one anytime soon but interesting to hear about.
dsm/dwindle branded decks with resin are different in quality to palace oem decks built at dsm.
Ah, I didn't know that. I'd assumed they were all resin.
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I'm off the giant noses now but it seems as if even when FA/Hockey/Alien use BBS, they keep the same shapes at least...
I'm in the same boat. Kinda over the blunty noses and shapes.
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I'm off the giant noses now
Yep. I'd probably buy only real twin tails if the wheelbases were just a little shorter
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I've seen some palace boards do weird things, like almost shatter.....I skated one and I just don't like the lay up, the kicks. Not as good as a generator/BBS board, didn't stay as snappy but not a bad board. Lots of people skate NHS without complaints...
Yeah BBS has been my go to. I'm just biased because I grew up skating DSM boards so I like the shape, but I wouldn't be surprised of a decrease in quality. I doubt I'm gonna buy one anytime soon but interesting to hear about.
dsm/dwindle branded decks with resin are different in quality to palace oem decks built at dsm.
Good info....I guess palace makes up for it by using lots of foil...
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I've seen some palace boards do weird things, like almost shatter.....I skated one and I just don't like the lay up, the kicks. Not as good as a generator/BBS board, didn't stay as snappy but not a bad board. Lots of people skate NHS without complaints...
Yeah BBS has been my go to. I'm just biased because I grew up skating DSM boards so I like the shape, but I wouldn't be surprised of a decrease in quality. I doubt I'm gonna buy one anytime soon but interesting to hear about.
dsm/dwindle branded decks with resin are different in quality to palace oem decks built at dsm.
Good info....I guess palace makes up for it by using lots of foil...
Can’t speak for palace but Evisen is DSM and I did not like it as much the last enjoi deck I had. The enjoi was a R7. Cant really put my finger on why.
And and somebody mentioned habitat was PS sticks but my embossed team logo board was BBS
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Habitat mixes, the habitat I last had was a ps Stix bit it wasn’t laser etched it was printed
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Habitat mixes, the habitat I last had was a ps Stix bit it wasn’t laser etched it was printed
Current habitat I have is BBS.
Specifically made sure it didn’t have a stamp
If it helps my habitat is from the Harper series
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I've seen some palace boards do weird things, like almost shatter.....I skated one and I just don't like the lay up, the kicks. Not as good as a generator/BBS board, didn't stay as snappy but not a bad board. Lots of people skate NHS without complaints...
Yeah BBS has been my go to. I'm just biased because I grew up skating DSM boards so I like the shape, but I wouldn't be surprised of a decrease in quality. I doubt I'm gonna buy one anytime soon but interesting to hear about.
dsm/dwindle branded decks with resin are different in quality to palace oem decks built at dsm.
Good info....I guess palace makes up for it by using lots of foil...
Can’t speak for palace but Evisen is DSM and I did not like it as much the last enjoi deck I had. The enjoi was a R7. Cant really put my finger on why.
And and somebody mentioned habitat was PS sticks but my embossed team logo board was BBS
Last Habitat I had was BBS, excellent board, never snapped on me. It only cracked on the bottom ply after doing a bunch of front lips more than a month into skating, held it's shape really well too.
As for the DSM R7 stuff. I'm bummed R7 isn't standard, I've seen shop decks in various East Asian countries use R7:
(https://i.imgur.com/VxgUJAO.png)
I mostly want DSM to be better/more consistent since I grew up skating their shapes so I'm heavily biased towards them.
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Decided to venture off from BBS wood and set up a Crailtap deck (Chocolate) 2 weeks ago. Shit is pressure cracking like a mofo behind both trucks, and everytime I landed bolts today I could hear wood crackiling so now I'm paranoid that the next time I land bolts this deck is dead. I was actually digging the wood too..oh well, back to BBS.
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I've seen some palace boards do weird things, like almost shatter.....I skated one and I just don't like the lay up, the kicks. Not as good as a generator/BBS board, didn't stay as snappy but not a bad board. Lots of people skate NHS without complaints...
Yeah BBS has been my go to. I'm just biased because I grew up skating DSM boards so I like the shape, but I wouldn't be surprised of a decrease in quality. I doubt I'm gonna buy one anytime soon but interesting to hear about.
dsm/dwindle branded decks with resin are different in quality to palace oem decks built at dsm.
Good info....I guess palace makes up for it by using lots of foil...
Can’t speak for palace but Evisen is DSM and I did not like it as much the last enjoi deck I had. The enjoi was a R7. Cant really put my finger on why.
And and somebody mentioned habitat was PS sticks but my embossed team logo board was BBS
Last Habitat I had was BBS, excellent board, never snapped on me. It only cracked on the bottom ply after doing a bunch of front lips more than a month into skating, held it's shape really well too.
As for the DSM R7 stuff. I'm bummed R7 isn't standard, I've seen shop decks in various East Asian countries use R7:
(https://i.imgur.com/VxgUJAO.png)
I mostly want DSM to be better/more consistent since I grew up skating their shapes so I'm heavily biased towards them.
what brand is that deck you posted?
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I can attest to the width of the NASA habitats them shits felt like they tapered wider from tail to nose
forgive my ignorance... but when did this "tapering" become a thing?
i like a lot of the WKND/Quasi PS shapes for eg...
but for the life of me cant figure out why they're a 1/4" thinner at the tail...
can anyone shed some light on this?
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Habitat mixes, the habitat I last had was a ps Stix bit it wasn’t laser etched it was printed
Current habitat I have is BBS.
Specifically made sure it didn’t have a stamp
If it helps my habitat is from the Harper series
Harper series I think is always exclusively BBS, collaboration boards I’ve always seen are PS
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I can attest to the width of the NASA habitats them shits felt like they tapered wider from tail to nose
forgive my ignorance... but when did this "tapering" become a thing?
i like a lot of the WKND/Quasi PS shapes for eg...
but for the life of me cant figure out why they're a 1/4" thinner at the tail...
can anyone shed some light on this?
It accentuates unnecessary large noses.....
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Habitat mixes, the habitat I last had was a ps Stix bit it wasn’t laser etched it was printed
Current habitat I have is BBS.
Specifically made sure it didn’t have a stamp
If it helps my habitat is from the Harper series
Harper series I think is always exclusively BBS, collaboration boards I’ve always seen are PS
This is good to know, I’m actually loving mine, a little bit of a bigger nose than I’ve been running lately but it’s actually been great. I think I’ve Zeroed in on my next few decks
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I've seen some palace boards do weird things, like almost shatter.....I skated one and I just don't like the lay up, the kicks. Not as good as a generator/BBS board, didn't stay as snappy but not a bad board. Lots of people skate NHS without complaints...
Yeah BBS has been my go to. I'm just biased because I grew up skating DSM boards so I like the shape, but I wouldn't be surprised of a decrease in quality. I doubt I'm gonna buy one anytime soon but interesting to hear about.
dsm/dwindle branded decks with resin are different in quality to palace oem decks built at dsm.
Good info....I guess palace makes up for it by using lots of foil...
Can’t speak for palace but Evisen is DSM and I did not like it as much the last enjoi deck I had. The enjoi was a R7. Cant really put my finger on why.
And and somebody mentioned habitat was PS sticks but my embossed team logo board was BBS
Last Habitat I had was BBS, excellent board, never snapped on me. It only cracked on the bottom ply after doing a bunch of front lips more than a month into skating, held it's shape really well too.
As for the DSM R7 stuff. I'm bummed R7 isn't standard, I've seen shop decks in various East Asian countries use R7:
(https://i.imgur.com/VxgUJAO.png)
I mostly want DSM to be better/more consistent since I grew up skating their shapes so I'm heavily biased towards them.
It's a shop board from Timber skate shop in Seoul
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Toy machine Europe pro decks are made in china? Toy Machine*(NA: price-point, EU: Pro Boards etc.)
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Decided to venture off from BBS wood and set up a Crailtap deck (Chocolate) 2 weeks ago. Shit is pressure cracking like a mofo behind both trucks, and everytime I landed bolts today I could hear wood crackiling so now I'm paranoid that the next time I land bolts this deck is dead. I was actually digging the wood too..oh well, back to BBS.
Damn, I was curious if they'd improved much but that's a bummer
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I can attest to the width of the NASA habitats them shits felt like they tapered wider from tail to nose
forgive my ignorance... but when did this "tapering" become a thing?
i like a lot of the WKND/Quasi PS shapes for eg...
but for the life of me cant figure out why they're a 1/4" thinner at the tail...
can anyone shed some light on this?
It accentuates unnecessary large noses.....
left myself open for that with my vague ass wording...
i was more asking if there are any "performance" benefits in regards to this shape.
do they skate/feel any different to a shape that is actually the same width across the whole length?
these PS shapes begin to taper near the middle of the board, its not just the tail that is significantly thinner.
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I can attest to the width of the NASA habitats them shits felt like they tapered wider from tail to nose
forgive my ignorance... but when did this "tapering" become a thing?
i like a lot of the WKND/Quasi PS shapes for eg...
but for the life of me cant figure out why they're a 1/4" thinner at the tail...
can anyone shed some light on this?
It accentuates unnecessary large noses.....
left myself open for that with my vague ass wording...
i was more asking if there are any "performance" benefits in regards to this shape.
do they skate/feel any different to a shape that is actually the same width across the whole length?
these PS shapes begin to taper near the middle of the board, its not just the tail that is significantly thinner.
Doubt there's any science behind the shape. I'd guess since your front foot covers more real estate in terms of switching positions setting up for different tricks? But that's a total guess.
I did notice a weird shape inconsistency with Hockey decks between PS and BBS. Both are 8.38 Piscopo's. The BBS is full nosed and full throughout the whole rails of the deck, whereas the PS is widest in the middle and tapers towards the nose and tail like a (very) vague football shape. I do wonder about how much QC/screening goes into the shapes for brands that seem all over the place (Hockey/FA, Alien/Hab etc.) vs other brands where it's insanely consistent (DLX, Quasi or something like that).
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I can attest to the width of the NASA habitats them shits felt like they tapered wider from tail to nose
forgive my ignorance... but when did this "tapering" become a thing?
i like a lot of the WKND/Quasi PS shapes for eg...
but for the life of me cant figure out why they're a 1/4" thinner at the tail...
can anyone shed some light on this?
It accentuates unnecessary large noses.....
left myself open for that with my vague ass wording...
i was more asking if there are any "performance" benefits in regards to this shape.
do they skate/feel any different to a shape that is actually the same width across the whole length?
these PS shapes begin to taper near the middle of the board, its not just the tail that is significantly thinner.
Doubt there's any science behind the shape. I'd guess since your front foot covers more real estate in terms of switching positions setting up for different tricks? But that's a total guess.
I did notice a weird shape inconsistency with Hockey decks between PS and BBS. Both are 8.38 Piscopo's. The BBS is full nosed and full throughout the whole rails of the deck, whereas the PS is widest in the middle and tapers towards the nose and tail like a (very) vague football shape. I do wonder about how much QC/screening goes into the shapes for brands that seem all over the place (Hockey/FA, Alien/Hab etc.) vs other brands where it's insanely consistent (DLX, Quasi or something like that).
i was thinking this front foot theory as well, but thought it might be too simple haha.
im glad someone else thought this as well.
I got a bunch of the new WKND boards in yesterday, the Karsten Kleppan "body parts" for eg. is stamped as an 8.5, but chuck a measure on the width, going down from the nose to the tail, and it varies from 8.625 (top bolts) down to 8.38 (bottom bolts).
its not like my back foot is any smaller than my front foot... i like that extra wood for my sz13 feet!
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For as long as I know psstix boards usually have a slight taper towards the tail.
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Decided to venture off from BBS wood and set up a Crailtap deck (Chocolate) 2 weeks ago. Shit is pressure cracking like a mofo behind both trucks, and everytime I landed bolts today I could hear wood crackiling so now I'm paranoid that the next time I land bolts this deck is dead. I was actually digging the wood too..oh well, back to BBS.
Damn, I was curious if they'd improved much but that's a bummer
They've improved significantly. Wood no longer feels soft as shit after a week or two, and tail doesn't chip and give out after 3-4 weeks like the old wood did. The decks do pressure crack absurdly fast, but it has no impact on deck performance.
Ben Degros' video is accurate to my personal experience with Girl/Chocolate decks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVUB0HDQMTs
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Madness and New Deal need to be added underneath Dwindle (DSM)
New Deal is only dwindle for the re-issues. The "re-imagined" ones (old shapes/graphics remade to fit modern tastes) are PS stix. Some of them actually look kind of interesting, and according the professor he used uncommon molds for some of them that haven't really been used for production boards before.
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Anyone skate the krooked fullshape decks?
I have an 8.38 sebo full shape and I wanted to like it so bad. I tried so hard but it sucks to flip and I skated like shit with it. I read that the full shape makes it easier to stay on the board but I didn't feel that at all. I did have shitty grip tape on it at the time though so perhaps I should give it another go.
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Madness and New Deal need to be added underneath Dwindle (DSM)
New Deal is only dwindle for the re-issues. The "re-imagined" ones (old shapes/graphics remade to fit modern tastes) are PS stix. Some of them actually look kind of interesting, and according the professor he used uncommon molds for some of them that haven't really been used for production boards before.
I just got one of the New Deal "wtf" 8.75 Sun boards. Love the shape, very similar to the AntiHero "full" shape Grosso I'm riding now. Can also confirm it is PSStix. Looking forward to set it up, been strictly riding BBS/generator for the past year or so after a poor experience with a PS Quasi. Hopefully this one is better.
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Anyone skate the krooked fullshape decks?
I have an 8.38 sebo full shape and I wanted to like it so bad. I tried so hard but it sucks to flip and I skated like shit with it. I read that the full shape makes it easier to stay on the board but I didn't feel that at all. I did have shitty grip tape on it at the time though so perhaps I should give it another go.
The 8.38" full has a longer wheelbase than most decks and has a shortish tail. Bit of a weird shape really but I really liked mine. Takes some times to get used to for sure though.
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Anyone skate the krooked fullshape decks?
I have an 8.38 sebo full shape and I wanted to like it so bad. I tried so hard but it sucks to flip and I skated like shit with it. I read that the full shape makes it easier to stay on the board but I didn't feel that at all. I did have shitty grip tape on it at the time though so perhaps I should give it another go.
The 8.38" full has a longer wheelbase than most decks and has a shortish tail. Bit of a weird shape really but I really liked mine. Takes some times to get used to for sure though.
If you're looking for the 8.38 with a square-ish shape without the massive WB, check out the Krooked Manderson 8.38's. Same concept with a 14.25wb (and 32" overall).
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Anyone skate the krooked fullshape decks?
I have an 8.38 sebo full shape and I wanted to like it so bad. I tried so hard but it sucks to flip and I skated like shit with it. I read that the full shape makes it easier to stay on the board but I didn't feel that at all. I did have shitty grip tape on it at the time though so perhaps I should give it another go.
The 8.38" full has a longer wheelbase than most decks and has a shortish tail. Bit of a weird shape really but I really liked mine. Takes some times to get used to for sure though.
If you're looking for the 8.38 with a square-ish shape without the massive WB, check out the Krooked Manderson 8.38's. Same concept with a 14.25wb (and 32" overall).
The DLX Full SEs are awesome if you want a BBS deck with a 14.25WB and square/full shape. I wish Quasi would switch to BBS though.
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Anyone skate the krooked fullshape decks?
I have an 8.38 sebo full shape and I wanted to like it so bad. I tried so hard but it sucks to flip and I skated like shit with it. I read that the full shape makes it easier to stay on the board but I didn't feel that at all. I did have shitty grip tape on it at the time though so perhaps I should give it another go.
The 8.38" full has a longer wheelbase than most decks and has a shortish tail. Bit of a weird shape really but I really liked mine. Takes some times to get used to for sure though.
If you're looking for the 8.38 with a square-ish shape without the massive WB, check out the Krooked Manderson 8.38's. Same concept with a 14.25wb (and 32" overall).
The DLX Full SEs are awesome if you want a BBS deck with a 14.25WB and square/full shape. I wish Quasi would switch to BBS though.
Doesn't the SE still have a 14.4" wheelbase? (at least on the 8.38's I think). Never had the full 8.38, but when i compared an older 8.5 full I had lying around to the Manderson 8.38 (Bomb graphic) the nose and tail were a lot more square than the standard full.
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Anyone skate the krooked fullshape decks?
I have an 8.38 sebo full shape and I wanted to like it so bad. I tried so hard but it sucks to flip and I skated like shit with it. I read that the full shape makes it easier to stay on the board but I didn't feel that at all. I did have shitty grip tape on it at the time though so perhaps I should give it another go.
The 8.38" full has a longer wheelbase than most decks and has a shortish tail. Bit of a weird shape really but I really liked mine. Takes some times to get used to for sure though.
If you're looking for the 8.38 with a square-ish shape without the massive WB, check out the Krooked Manderson 8.38's. Same concept with a 14.25wb (and 32" overall).
The DLX Full SEs are awesome if you want a BBS deck with a 14.25WB and square/full shape. I wish Quasi would switch to BBS though.
Doesn't the SE still have a 14.4" wheelbase? (at least on the 8.38's I think). Never had the full 8.38, but when i compared an older 8.5 full I had lying around to the Manderson 8.38 (Bomb graphic) the nose and tail were a lot more square than the standard full.
Oh shit I read that wrong and didn't realize it had to be 8.38. The 8.25 is a 14.25 WB, my bad. Going from 8.38 to 8.25 should be easy enough to do though... I find changing WB is harder than width personally. I just went from 8.125 to 8.0 on my tech/flatground setup because Quasi's 8s have a longer wheelbase and length than their 8.125s. My bad, I jumped on the reply button because 8.25 DLX Full SEs are one of my go to shapes.
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Doesn't the SE still have a 14.4" wheelbase? (at least on the 8.38's I think). Never had the full 8.38, but when i compared an older 8.5 full I had lying around to the Manderson 8.38 (Bomb graphic) the nose and tail were a lot more square than the standard full.
Oh shit I read that wrong and didn't realize it had to be 8.38. The 8.25 is a 14.25 WB, my bad. Going from 8.38 to 8.25 should be easy enough to do though... I find changing WB is harder than width personally. I just went from 8.125 to 8.0 on my tech/flatground setup because Quasi's 8s have a longer wheelbase and length than their 8.125s. My bad, I jumped on the reply button because 8.25 DLX Full SEs are one of my go to shapes.
No worries. And agreed about the width vs. wb, which is why I really dug the Manderson shape when they released it. Ticks a lot of boxes for me, the full nose, standard wheelbase, and BBS wood. No complaints.
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Doesn't the SE still have a 14.4" wheelbase? (at least on the 8.38's I think). Never had the full 8.38, but when i compared an older 8.5 full I had lying around to the Manderson 8.38 (Bomb graphic) the nose and tail were a lot more square than the standard full.
Oh shit I read that wrong and didn't realize it had to be 8.38. The 8.25 is a 14.25 WB, my bad. Going from 8.38 to 8.25 should be easy enough to do though... I find changing WB is harder than width personally. I just went from 8.125 to 8.0 on my tech/flatground setup because Quasi's 8s have a longer wheelbase and length than their 8.125s. My bad, I jumped on the reply button because 8.25 DLX Full SEs are one of my go to shapes.
No worries. And agreed about the width vs. wb, which is why I really dug the Manderson shape when they released it. Ticks a lot of boxes for me, the full nose, standard wheelbase, and BBS wood. No complaints.
I might have to give that shap a try. Thanks!
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Anyone know who presses Sausage? Got one recently and it looks kind of like a South Central.
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Could be....I always thought they were pressing their own stuff in some woodshop in pac-northwest.
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maybe more directed to people in Oz but does anyone know where Private Joy presses their decks? same as passport?
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Anyone know who presses Sausage? Got one recently and it looks kind of like a South Central.
I just picked up a couple 8.25" sausage decks and one is mellow kicks and concave from Canada and the other has medium kicks
and concave with 7k stamped in the middle of the front truck on the top sheet and is also imported so im guessing from mexico
(Clutch possibly). It is a similar stamp to the Syndrome Dist boards from a few years ago, whoever was pressing those.
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Anyone know who presses Sausage? Got one recently and it looks kind of like a South Central.
I just picked up a couple 8.25" sausage decks and one is mellow kicks and concave from Canada and the other has medium kicks
and concave with 7k stamped in the middle of the front truck on the top sheet and is also imported so im guessing from mexico
(Clutch possibly). It is a similar stamp to the Syndrome Dist boards from a few years ago, whoever was pressing those.
Wild, I guess they're using a few shops. The 7k or k7 sounds like clutch for sure. I kind of want to DM them.
On this one only top ply mark was a dot over the front truck, no sticker on the shrink or anywhere to indicate origin. I was thinking South Central because of how thick and flat it is. Holding up next to a DOA flat they look like they could be from the same spot.
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Anyone know who presses Sausage? Got one recently and it looks kind of like a South Central.
I just picked up a couple 8.25" sausage decks and one is mellow kicks and concave from Canada and the other has medium kicks
and concave with 7k stamped in the middle of the front truck on the top sheet and is also imported so im guessing from mexico
(Clutch possibly). It is a similar stamp to the Syndrome Dist boards from a few years ago, whoever was pressing those.
Wild, I guess they're using a few shops. The 7k or k7 sounds like clutch for sure. I kind of want to DM them.
On this one only top ply mark was a dot over the front truck, no sticker on the shrink or anywhere to indicate origin. I was thinking South Central because of how thick and flat it is. Holding up next to a DOA flat they look like they could be from the same spot.
Every South Central deck I've bought (DOA, Politic, Vacation, Bacon, Morning Bell) have had "Made in USA" on them. The owner of South Central gives pretty good price breaks for stating that. Also, they all had plain white round stickers indicating the size on the shrink wrap. And with the DOA flat they also have it labelled "E mold." Definitely worth sending them a DM, I've yet to get any flack for asking about woodshops when I nerd out.
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Decided to venture off from BBS wood and set up a Crailtap deck (Chocolate) 2 weeks ago. Shit is pressure cracking like a mofo behind both trucks, and everytime I landed bolts today I could hear wood crackiling so now I'm paranoid that the next time I land bolts this deck is dead. I was actually digging the wood too..oh well, back to BBS.
Damn, I was curious if they'd improved much but that's a bummer
They've improved significantly. Wood no longer feels soft as shit after a week or two, and tail doesn't chip and give out after 3-4 weeks like the old wood did. The decks do pressure crack absurdly fast, but it has no impact on deck performance.
Ben Degros' video is accurate to my personal experience with Girl/Chocolate decks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVUB0HDQMTs
Ah ok, fair. If I end up seeing one and the shape clicks I'll give it a shot, appreciate the info.
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Decided to venture off from BBS wood and set up a Crailtap deck (Chocolate) 2 weeks ago. Shit is pressure cracking like a mofo behind both trucks, and everytime I landed bolts today I could hear wood crackiling so now I'm paranoid that the next time I land bolts this deck is dead. I was actually digging the wood too..oh well, back to BBS.
Damn, I was curious if they'd improved much but that's a bummer
They've improved significantly. Wood no longer feels soft as shit after a week or two, and tail doesn't chip and give out after 3-4 weeks like the old wood did. The decks do pressure crack absurdly fast, but it has no impact on deck performance.
Ben Degros' video is accurate to my personal experience with Girl/Chocolate decks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVUB0HDQMTs
Ah ok, fair. If I end up seeing one and the shape clicks I'll give it a shot, appreciate the info.
Shapes and good and the wood is better, I probably had over a year on nothing but crailtap boards once they fixed the wood because they shapes are really good for me
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Decided to venture off from BBS wood and set up a Crailtap deck (Chocolate) 2 weeks ago. Shit is pressure cracking like a mofo behind both trucks, and everytime I landed bolts today I could hear wood crackiling so now I'm paranoid that the next time I land bolts this deck is dead. I was actually digging the wood too..oh well, back to BBS.
Damn, I was curious if they'd improved much but that's a bummer
They've improved significantly. Wood no longer feels soft as shit after a week or two, and tail doesn't chip and give out after 3-4 weeks like the old wood did. The decks do pressure crack absurdly fast, but it has no impact on deck performance.
Ben Degros' video is accurate to my personal experience with Girl/Chocolate decks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVUB0HDQMTs
Ah ok, fair. If I end up seeing one and the shape clicks I'll give it a shot, appreciate the info.
Shapes and good and the wood is better, I probably had over a year on nothing but crailtap boards once they fixed the wood because they shapes are really good for me
I, a grown man, tried to focus an old Chocolate deck last night and failed 3 times so I definitely think there's something to be said. If you can get past the pressure crack weirdness they seem really solid and the shapes are consistently good.
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Anyone know who presses Sausage? Got one recently and it looks kind of like a South Central.
I just picked up a couple 8.25" sausage decks and one is mellow kicks and concave from Canada and the other has medium kicks
and concave with 7k stamped in the middle of the front truck on the top sheet and is also imported so im guessing from mexico
(Clutch possibly). It is a similar stamp to the Syndrome Dist boards from a few years ago, whoever was pressing those.
Wild, I guess they're using a few shops. The 7k or k7 sounds like clutch for sure. I kind of want to DM them.
On this one only top ply mark was a dot over the front truck, no sticker on the shrink or anywhere to indicate origin. I was thinking South Central because of how thick and flat it is. Holding up next to a DOA flat they look like they could be from the same spot.
Every South Central deck I've bought (DOA, Politic, Vacation, Bacon, Morning Bell) have had "Made in USA" on them. The owner of South Central gives pretty good price breaks for stating that. Also, they all had plain white round stickers indicating the size on the shrink wrap. And with the DOA flat they also have it labelled "E mold." Definitely worth sending them a DM, I've yet to get any flack for asking about woodshops when I nerd out.
Do you mean South central gives you a price break if you order s batch of decks from them with “made in usa” on it? I’m going to use them for my next batch of decks so I’m curious
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Does anyone happen to know the full measurements for Politic and DOA's 8.125s and 8.25s? I refuse to order a board online without knowing the length and wb...
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Does anyone happen to know the full measurements for Politic and DOA's 8.125s and 8.25s? I refuse to order a board online without knowing the length and wb...
My DOA 8.25"s have all been 14.25WB and about 31.75 overall.
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Do you mean South central gives you a price break if you order s batch of decks from them with “made in usa” on it? I’m going to use them for my next batch of decks so I’m curious
Trying to find where the hell I read this, but it was recently. Might be worth it to email the owner and confirm as I'm now worried I'm talking out of my ass.
Does anyone happen to know the full measurements for Politic and DOA's 8.125s and 8.25s? I refuse to order a board online without knowing the length and wb...
If you message Steve at DOA he'll let you know. Got back to me in like an hour about all my wheelbase nerd-ery.
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Do you mean South central gives you a price break if you order s batch of decks from them with “made in usa” on it? I’m going to use them for my next batch of decks so I’m curious
Trying to find where the hell I read this, but it was recently. Might be worth it to email the owner and confirm as I'm now worried I'm talking out of my ass.
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Does anyone happen to know the full measurements for Politic and DOA's 8.125s and 8.25s? I refuse to order a board online without knowing the length and wb...
If you message Steve at DOA he'll let you know. Got back to me in like an hour about all my wheelbase nerd-ery.
Gotcha, I’ll check, thank you!
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So does Skull Skates make all of their own boards or what exactly? I've been thinking about throwing a cruiser together and I'm looking at their BA. KU. collabs and the Heroin DMODW Raven. Not sure what one would be better quality.
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So does Skull Skates make all of their own boards or what exactly? I've been thinking about throwing a cruiser together and I'm looking at their BA. KU. collabs and the Heroin DMODW Raven. Not sure what one would be better quality.
I saw a video a few months back where they said they were made at a woodshop in Canada and how that made them better because the wood - which is grown there - didn't have to be shipped all over. They were pretty proud that their shop decks weren't the cheaper decks that they carried, and that people were willing to pay more than average for them.
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So does Skull Skates make all of their own boards or what exactly? I've been thinking about throwing a cruiser together and I'm looking at their BA. KU. collabs and the Heroin DMODW Raven. Not sure what one would be better quality.
skull skates are made at control, which to me are reserved to be shop boards. they are cheap, dont keep their shape and sog out.
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So does Skull Skates make all of their own boards or what exactly? I've been thinking about throwing a cruiser together and I'm looking at their BA. KU. collabs and the Heroin DMODW Raven. Not sure what one would be better quality.
Damn. If I'm buying a board for cruising I want it to last as long as possible because I'm not going to ride it very hard or even that often. I sort of figured playing it safe with BBS would be the best option but those BA. KU. graphics are sick. I'm a sucker for that TRVE KVLT shit.
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So does Skull Skates make all of their own boards or what exactly? I've been thinking about throwing a cruiser together and I'm looking at their BA. KU. collabs and the Heroin DMODW Raven. Not sure what one would be better quality.
Damn. If I'm buying a board for cruising I want it to last as long as possible because I'm not going to ride it very hard or even that often. I sort of figured playing it safe with BBS would be the best option but those BA. KU. graphics are sick. I'm a sucker for that TRVE KVLT shit.
heroin boards are solid bbs wood, should treat you well.
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So does Skull Skates make all of their own boards or what exactly? I've been thinking about throwing a cruiser together and I'm looking at their BA. KU. collabs and the Heroin DMODW Raven. Not sure what one would be better quality.
Damn. If I'm buying a board for cruising I want it to last as long as possible because I'm not going to ride it very hard or even that often. I sort of figured playing it safe with BBS would be the best option but those BA. KU. graphics are sick. I'm a sucker for that TRVE KVLT shit.
Though not specifically first wave black metal inspired, Brujeria always has some good heavy graphics, and the owner posts here from time to time,
https://www.brujariaskateboards.com/shop-1
Edit: Thought they were BBS, but they're last listed as using Clutch, which I've never skated.
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I think for a cruiser, the skull board will suit you fine. They do it because they want to keep it Canadian.
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So does Skull Skates make all of their own boards or what exactly? I've been thinking about throwing a cruiser together and I'm looking at their BA. KU. collabs and the Heroin DMODW Raven. Not sure what one would be better quality.
Damn. If I'm buying a board for cruising I want it to last as long as possible because I'm not going to ride it very hard or even that often. I sort of figured playing it safe with BBS would be the best option but those BA. KU. graphics are sick. I'm a sucker for that TRVE KVLT shit.
Though not specifically first wave black metal inspired, Brujeria always has some good heavy graphics, and the owner posts here from time to time,
https://www.brujariaskateboards.com/shop-1
Edit: Thought they were BBS, but they're last listed as using Clutch, which I've never skated.
Is is pretty good. I had 2 brujaria decks one I hung one I skated. I have zero complaints. Solid deck solid company. Great art.
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According to Girl's Instagram story, they're using PS stix wood for Mike Carroll's new line of decks :o
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According to Girl's Instagram story, they're using PS stix wood for Mike Carroll's new line of decks :o
Post a screenshot if you can. Very intriguing.
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According to Girl's Instagram story, they're using PS stix wood for Mike Carroll's new line of decks :o
I think they sometimes use ps. I think they did a few shop colabs on ps.
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So does Skull Skates make all of their own boards or what exactly? I've been thinking about throwing a cruiser together and I'm looking at their BA. KU. collabs and the Heroin DMODW Raven. Not sure what one would be better quality.
Damn. If I'm buying a board for cruising I want it to last as long as possible because I'm not going to ride it very hard or even that often. I sort of figured playing it safe with BBS would be the best option but those BA. KU. graphics are sick. I'm a sucker for that TRVE KVLT shit.
Though not specifically first wave black metal inspired, Brujeria always has some good heavy graphics, and the owner posts here from time to time,
https://www.brujariaskateboards.com/shop-1
Edit: Thought they were BBS, but they're last listed as using Clutch, which I've never skated.
Hey guys, thanks for the kind words, I appreciate it! Right now we're split between BBS and Clutch. Both excellent boards, Clutch makes a nice 8.5x14.74"WB shape that Norman is quite fond of, however, the more squared BBS shapes are rad too, albeit shorter wheelbase.
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I've only had one clutch deck (an 8.25 with a 14.5 wb from a company thats name escapes me at the moment) and the wood was decent and very durable. Pop was fine and it held it even after I beat it up and got it wet a bunch of times. I wouldn't seek it out but it the way I do with PW or SC wood but it wouldn't be a deal breaker if a company I like used it either.
Also, according to the descriptions on socal some of the newer Toy Machine decks are pressed by Watson. Does anyone know if that's true? I know they have a long history (does Tumyeto still own Watson?) but I haven't seen a TM with a Watson sticker for a very long time and I've never actually skated one of them so I would like to try one if it's true.
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I've only had one clutch deck (an 8.25 with a 14.5 wb from a company thats name escapes me at the moment) and the wood was decent and very durable. Pop was fine and it held it even after I beat it up and got it wet a bunch of times. I wouldn't seek it out but it the way I do with PW or SC wood but it wouldn't be a deal breaker if a company I like used it either.
Also, according to the descriptions on socal some of the newer Toy Machine decks are pressed by Watson. Does anyone know if that's true? I know they have a long history (does Tumyeto still own Watson?) but I haven't seen a TM with a Watson sticker for a very long time and I've never actually skated one of them so I would like to try one if it's true.
Idk about Toy being pressed at Watson, but Watson is legit. Got the Scram/Assault collab board a few years back and the wood was pretty damn good. I’d imagine Watson pressed Toy boards would be pretty good. Hope this is some help
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Most of all toy machine and foundation is PSSTIX these days. Some pro models and the screen printed decks are still pressed and screened at Watson. The “made in USA” sticker ones are Watson and the rest is very mellow psstix
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Most of all toy machine and foundation is PSSTIX these days. Some pro models and the screen printed decks are still pressed and screened at Watson. The “made in USA” sticker ones are Watson and the rest is very mellow psstix
Just throwing this out there. A bunch of the team boards I've come across were made in China and didn't strike me as particularly good quality. Maybe it's cause I'm in Canada? Don't know. But I was in the market for a flatter concave deck and was more than a little bummed when i checked these out at a shop.
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This is a BBS appreciation post
Thank you BBS for making boards that don't immediately snap when I land something sketchy on the nose or tail, and don't chip when I try to flip into stuff I have no business flipping into, and don't crack when I just do lipslides all day. God I fucking love BBS boards, only thing I wish is they had the same setup as dwindle where each board was pressed individually, but I understand the RnD it'd take to set that all up.
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Most of all toy machine and foundation is PSSTIX these days. Some pro models and the screen printed decks are still pressed and screened at Watson. The “made in USA” sticker ones are Watson and the rest is very mellow psstix
Just throwing this out there. A bunch of the team boards I've come across were made in China and didn't strike me as particularly good quality. Maybe it's cause I'm in Canada? Don't know. But I was in the market for a flatter concave deck and was more than a little bummed when i checked these out at a shop.
Recently I had a Chinese toy machine. God that thing sucked, lasted me 2 weeks which for my standards is like 15 min
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Most of all toy machine and foundation is PSSTIX these days. Some pro models and the screen printed decks are still pressed and screened at Watson. The “made in USA” sticker ones are Watson and the rest is very mellow psstix
Just throwing this out there. A bunch of the team boards I've come across were made in China and didn't strike me as particularly good quality. Maybe it's cause I'm in Canada? Don't know. But I was in the market for a flatter concave deck and was more than a little bummed when i checked these out at a shop.
They are selling a whole lot of locally branded (Do By Heart, Justice) and USA branded boards (Zero, Chocolate, Girl, Deathwish, Baker, Flip) on their big shopping site Taobao. A complete setup will $115 before shipping, with a logo board, Theeve trucks, locally made bearings and plain wheels.
Fuck they are even selling off-brand Real boards:
https://detail.tmall.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.76.7b543716vW5lQd&id=602491724310&ns=1&abbucket=6
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If you search Alibaba you can find manufacturers claiming to (some truthfully some not) make boards big brands. Excel who makes girl, also makes budget completes and decks for other brands.
Theeve is made in China so it makes since to use them.
Right when It first became message board knowledge their were counter fit indys all over the place. You could find a set in amazon for 18$
https://imgur.com/a/OelD39z
Photo from reddit of dude bragging about his fake indys
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Just to clarify, I wasn't suggesting the Toy Machine decks I saw were counterfeits. Just low end crap, unfortunately.
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If you search Alibaba you can find manufacturers claiming to (some truthfully some not) make boards big brands. Excel who makes girl, also makes budget completes and decks for other brands.
Theeve is made in China so it makes since to use them.
Right when It first became message board knowledge their were counter fit indys all over the place. You could find a set in amazon for 18$
https://imgur.com/a/OelD39z
Photo from reddit of dude bragging about his fake indys
AliExpress sells Element branded trucks and past season Royals and wheels from Girl, Chocolate and even Pig. I wouldn't mind trying the wheels since they are $20 and even their bearings, but I'll stick to name brands for boards and trucks.
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I’ve seen those Toymachine and element pre made completes use dsm wood. I’ve seen some in Korea when I visited and the shape looked like mini logo concave. I’ve also seen made in China stickers on psstix laser boards too
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Price point Toy Machine boards are made in china. Pro Models and full price team boards are PS or Watson.
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Most of all toy machine and foundation is PSSTIX these days. Some pro models and the screen printed decks are still pressed and screened at Watson. The “made in USA” sticker ones are Watson and the rest is very mellow psstix
Yeah I know, I actually haven't seen a Watson one in a long time (probably a few years) so I just assumed they'd gone to PS for everything but the chinese PP boards. I just bought a Toy Machine Welcome to Hell monster like 2 weeks ago that's the mellow PS mold. Only complaint is that its 14.5 wb on a 31.75, which is a little stretched out for me but moving to ace 44s has helped mitigate it a bit.
The reason I was somewhat suspicious is because one of the boards SoCal had marked as Watson was the Foundation 30 year Markovich re-issue which the Tumyeto site mentions is done at Watson, but none of the other boards say anything about being Watson on the Tumyeto site. I was thinking maybe they just copy/pasted the info for the whole Tumyeto shipment and forgot to take that part out or something. I guess I could just email them and ask rather than blindly speculating on here haha. Now if only I could find an 8.25/8.38 Watson with a 14.25" wb...
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Most of all toy machine and foundation is PSSTIX these days. Some pro models and the screen printed decks are still pressed and screened at Watson. The “made in USA” sticker ones are Watson and the rest is very mellow psstix
Yeah I know, I actually haven't seen a Watson one in a long time (probably a few years) so I just assumed they'd gone to PS for everything but the chinese PP boards. I just bought a Toy Machine Welcome to Hell monster like 2 weeks ago that's the mellow PS mold. Only complaint is that its 14.5 wb on a 31.75, which is a little stretched out for me but moving to ace 44s has helped mitigate it a bit.
The reason I was somewhat suspicious is because one of the boards SoCal had marked as Watson was the Foundation 30 year Markovich re-issue which the Tumyeto site mentions is done at Watson, but none of the other boards say anything about being Watson on the Tumyeto site. I was thinking maybe they just copy/pasted the info for the whole Tumyeto shipment and forgot to take that part out or something. I guess I could just email them and ask rather than blindly speculating on here haha. Now if only I could find an 8.25/8.38 Watson with a 14.25" wb...
What width? I’d love a non-Chinese Toy Machine board with 14.5” wheelbase. I am in Europe though so I guess that’s unlikely. 🤔
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What width? I’d love a non-Chinese Toy Machine board with 14.5” wheelbase. I am in Europe though so I guess that’s unlikely. 🤔
8.25".. I posted pics of it in the setup thread (although I've switched the trucks to black Ace 44 since then) if you want to see it. Try to find the pro models or non price point team decks (like mine) if you want to avoid China wood. I'm not sure if Tumyeto uses a different woodshop for Europe but I'd they don't then those should be PS Stix and the 8.25“ x 31.75“ 14.5“ wheelbase mellow concave mold is used on a bunch of them.
Also I emailed Socal and they confirmed that it was a mistake and the only Tumyeto they have from Watson is the Markovich 30 year reissue.
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What width? I’d love a non-Chinese Toy Machine board with 14.5” wheelbase. I am in Europe though so I guess that’s unlikely. 🤔
8.25".. I posted pics of it in the setup thread (although I've switched the trucks to black Ace 44 since then) if you want to see it. Try to find the pro models or non price point team decks (like mine) if you want to avoid China wood. I'm not sure if Tumyeto uses a different woodshop for Europe but I'd they don't then those should be PS Stix and the 8.25“ x 31.75“ 14.5“ wheelbase mellow concave mold is used on a bunch of them.
Also I emailed Socal and they confirmed that it was a mistake and the only Tumyeto they have from Watson is the Markovich 30 year reissue.
Thanks for the info. 8.25” is a bit skinny for me. Doable maybe, but not preferable. Anyway Toy Machine at least used to have most of their boards in Europe pressed in China so it’s always a gamble if you can’t confirm it in advance. If they got their shit together like most other companies and wouldn’t try to treat their European customers like shit, I’d love to give them a chance still. My love for Toy Machine hasn’t completely died yet.
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What width? I’d love a non-Chinese Toy Machine board with 14.5” wheelbase. I am in Europe though so I guess that’s unlikely. 🤔
8.25".. I posted pics of it in the setup thread (although I've switched the trucks to black Ace 44 since then) if you want to see it. Try to find the pro models or non price point team decks (like mine) if you want to avoid China wood. I'm not sure if Tumyeto uses a different woodshop for Europe but I'd they don't then those should be PS Stix and the 8.25“ x 31.75“ 14.5“ wheelbase mellow concave mold is used on a bunch of them.
Also I emailed Socal and they confirmed that it was a mistake and the only Tumyeto they have from Watson is the Markovich 30 year reissue.
Thanks for the info. 8.25” is a bit skinny for me. Doable maybe, but not preferable. Anyway Toy Machine at least used to have most of their boards in Europe pressed in China so it’s always a gamble if you can’t confirm it in advance. If they got their shit together like most other companies and wouldn’t try to treat their European customers like shit, I’d love to give them a chance still. My love for Toy Machine hasn’t completely died yet.
I got a Leabres board in Europe and shit was horrible Chinese crap.
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What width? I’d love a non-Chinese Toy Machine board with 14.5” wheelbase. I am in Europe though so I guess that’s unlikely. 🤔
8.25".. I posted pics of it in the setup thread (although I've switched the trucks to black Ace 44 since then) if you want to see it. Try to find the pro models or non price point team decks (like mine) if you want to avoid China wood. I'm not sure if Tumyeto uses a different woodshop for Europe but I'd they don't then those should be PS Stix and the 8.25“ x 31.75“ 14.5“ wheelbase mellow concave mold is used on a bunch of them.
Also I emailed Socal and they confirmed that it was a mistake and the only Tumyeto they have from Watson is the Markovich 30 year reissue.
Thanks for the info. 8.25” is a bit skinny for me. Doable maybe, but not preferable. Anyway Toy Machine at least used to have most of their boards in Europe pressed in China so it’s always a gamble if you can’t confirm it in advance. If they got their shit together like most other companies and wouldn’t try to treat their European customers like shit, I’d love to give them a chance still. My love for Toy Machine hasn’t completely died yet.
Where do you live? The shipping is probably outrageous but if you really want one I'm sure there's some US shops that would send you one, or maybe a friendly SLAP pal can help you with it. I do sympathize with you, it seems like it's more difficult to get quality decks in Europe than over here, although you do get access to those awesome Lovenskate pennswood decks and I got my first Sour board last month and really like the Jart wood. It's quite thick and heavy but very stiff and feels damn near indestructible. Getting shinners is awful because its like getting smacked in the leg with a lead pipe but the pop is great and the concave is really nice.
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What width? I’d love a non-Chinese Toy Machine board with 14.5” wheelbase. I am in Europe though so I guess that’s unlikely. 🤔
8.25".. I posted pics of it in the setup thread (although I've switched the trucks to black Ace 44 since then) if you want to see it. Try to find the pro models or non price point team decks (like mine) if you want to avoid China wood. I'm not sure if Tumyeto uses a different woodshop for Europe but I'd they don't then those should be PS Stix and the 8.25“ x 31.75“ 14.5“ wheelbase mellow concave mold is used on a bunch of them.
Also I emailed Socal and they confirmed that it was a mistake and the only Tumyeto they have from Watson is the Markovich 30 year reissue.
Thanks for the info. 8.25” is a bit skinny for me. Doable maybe, but not preferable. Anyway Toy Machine at least used to have most of their boards in Europe pressed in China so it’s always a gamble if you can’t confirm it in advance. If they got their shit together like most other companies and wouldn’t try to treat their European customers like shit, I’d love to give them a chance still. My love for Toy Machine hasn’t completely died yet.
Where do you live? The shipping is probably outrageous but if you really want one I'm sure there's some US shops that would send you one, or maybe a friendly SLAP pal can help you with it. I do sympathize with you, it seems like it's more difficult to get quality decks in Europe than over here, although you do get access to those awesome Lovenskate pennswood decks and I got my first Sour board last month and really like the Jart wood. It's quite thick and heavy but very stiff and feels damn near indestructible. Getting shinners is awful because its like getting smacked in the leg with a lead pipe but the pop is great and the concave is really nice.
I live in Finland. It's not that hard to get nice boards here. Some brands just want to cut corners and try to sell us crap and those brands won't get my business. Some of the smaller US brands aren't easy to come by I guess and it might be better to be smart about buying what you like when it's available as things might sell out relatively quickly. Ordering online throughout Europe is always an option too and that way you can find a lot more stuff than locally but I prefer to buy locally if they have what I want.
Anyway I'm not exactly hurting for boards and ordering from the US really isn't an option due to shipping, customs and taxes. Ed just has to live without my money due to his poor choices.
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What width? I’d love a non-Chinese Toy Machine board with 14.5” wheelbase. I am in Europe though so I guess that’s unlikely. 🤔
8.25".. I posted pics of it in the setup thread (although I've switched the trucks to black Ace 44 since then) if you want to see it. Try to find the pro models or non price point team decks (like mine) if you want to avoid China wood. I'm not sure if Tumyeto uses a different woodshop for Europe but I'd they don't then those should be PS Stix and the 8.25“ x 31.75“ 14.5“ wheelbase mellow concave mold is used on a bunch of them.
Also I emailed Socal and they confirmed that it was a mistake and the only Tumyeto they have from Watson is the Markovich 30 year reissue.
Thanks for the info. 8.25” is a bit skinny for me. Doable maybe, but not preferable. Anyway Toy Machine at least used to have most of their boards in Europe pressed in China so it’s always a gamble if you can’t confirm it in advance. If they got their shit together like most other companies and wouldn’t try to treat their European customers like shit, I’d love to give them a chance still. My love for Toy Machine hasn’t completely died yet.
Where do you live? The shipping is probably outrageous but if you really want one I'm sure there's some US shops that would send you one, or maybe a friendly SLAP pal can help you with it. I do sympathize with you, it seems like it's more difficult to get quality decks in Europe than over here, although you do get access to those awesome Lovenskate pennswood decks and I got my first Sour board last month and really like the Jart wood. It's quite thick and heavy but very stiff and feels damn near indestructible. Getting shinners is awful because its like getting smacked in the leg with a lead pipe but the pop is great and the concave is really nice.
I live in Finland. It's not that hard to get nice boards here. Some brands just want to cut corners and try to sell us crap and those brands won't get my business. Some of the smaller US brands aren't easy to come by I guess and it might be better to be smart about buying what you like when it's available as things might sell out relatively quickly. Ordering online throughout Europe is always an option too and that way you can find a lot more stuff than locally but I prefer to buy locally if they have what I want.
Anyway I'm not exactly hurting for boards and ordering from the US really isn't an option due to shipping, customs and taxes. Ed just has to live without my money due to his poor choices.
In your experience, which brands do you think try to peddle shit out there to you?
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What width? I’d love a non-Chinese Toy Machine board with 14.5” wheelbase. I am in Europe though so I guess that’s unlikely. 🤔
8.25".. I posted pics of it in the setup thread (although I've switched the trucks to black Ace 44 since then) if you want to see it. Try to find the pro models or non price point team decks (like mine) if you want to avoid China wood. I'm not sure if Tumyeto uses a different woodshop for Europe but I'd they don't then those should be PS Stix and the 8.25“ x 31.75“ 14.5“ wheelbase mellow concave mold is used on a bunch of them.
Also I emailed Socal and they confirmed that it was a mistake and the only Tumyeto they have from Watson is the Markovich 30 year reissue.
Thanks for the info. 8.25” is a bit skinny for me. Doable maybe, but not preferable. Anyway Toy Machine at least used to have most of their boards in Europe pressed in China so it’s always a gamble if you can’t confirm it in advance. If they got their shit together like most other companies and wouldn’t try to treat their European customers like shit, I’d love to give them a chance still. My love for Toy Machine hasn’t completely died yet.
Where do you live? The shipping is probably outrageous but if you really want one I'm sure there's some US shops that would send you one, or maybe a friendly SLAP pal can help you with it. I do sympathize with you, it seems like it's more difficult to get quality decks in Europe than over here, although you do get access to those awesome Lovenskate pennswood decks and I got my first Sour board last month and really like the Jart wood. It's quite thick and heavy but very stiff and feels damn near indestructible. Getting shinners is awful because its like getting smacked in the leg with a lead pipe but the pop is great and the concave is really nice.
I live in Finland. It's not that hard to get nice boards here. Some brands just want to cut corners and try to sell us crap and those brands won't get my business. Some of the smaller US brands aren't easy to come by I guess and it might be better to be smart about buying what you like when it's available as things might sell out relatively quickly. Ordering online throughout Europe is always an option too and that way you can find a lot more stuff than locally but I prefer to buy locally if they have what I want.
Anyway I'm not exactly hurting for boards and ordering from the US really isn't an option due to shipping, customs and taxes. Ed just has to live without my money due to his poor choices.
In your experience, which brands do you think try to peddle shit out there to you?
Check the first page. Of the ones I’ve thought of buying Toy Machine & Habitat come to mind first.
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For those who might me interested, i was suprised to see that Primitive X DBZ Final Drop was "Made In China" (while the two previous ones were Made in Mexico).
Not the first world problem. I guess they just want to make more money.
the problem is that the offset series (with the huge names on it) is made in China too
shape is kinda square too
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For those who might me interested, i was suprised to see that Primitive X DBZ Final Drop was "Made In China" (while the two previous ones were Made in Mexico).
Not the first world problem. I guess they just want to make more money.
the problem is that the offset series (with the huge names on it) is made in China too
shape is kinda square too
Gotta watch those margins. Can’t have 20 pros and not use cheaper factories. Jk, more than likely BBS could have been backed up and they went somewhere else just to meet the orders. I hope. I actually like primitives shapes
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Maybe they switched after production runs. The last ones offset i looked at had the made in mexico sticker.
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For those who might me interested, i was suprised to see that Primitive X DBZ Final Drop was "Made In China" (while the two previous ones were Made in Mexico).
Not the first world problem. I guess they just want to make more money.
the problem is that the offset series (with the huge names on it) is made in China too
shape is kinda square too
Any idea who is making them in china? Like is it the girl/chocolate factory or some place totally different?
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For those who might me interested, i was suprised to see that Primitive X DBZ Final Drop was "Made In China" (while the two previous ones were Made in Mexico).
Not the first world problem. I guess they just want to make more money.
the problem is that the offset series (with the huge names on it) is made in China too
shape is kinda square too
No more BBS? What the hell
Any idea who is making them in china? Like is it the girl/chocolate factory or some place totally different?
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i guess i should add that i am in France
i'll post a picture of the sticker if it can help
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i guess i should add that i am in France
i'll post a picture of the sticker if it can help
They love to flood Europe with Chinese crap... A toy machine, Leabres, I had was Chinese while living in the Czech Republic
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Btw that Colours crap comes from...?
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If you are based in Europe just buy HLC pressed wood. I've had two boards this year and wouldn't hesitate to get a few more if I had the chance
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If you are based in Europe just buy HLC pressed wood. I've had two boards this year and wouldn't hesitate to get a few more if I had the chance
Not anymore, back in South America for a while. Just got one PS and one bbs
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I just ordered a Madness impact light, does anyone know if it's just a normal R7 board with the carbon fiber insert or do they use a more traditional process with Franklin sk-8 glue for the impact boards?
I'm curious about this thing but I almost feel like a reinforced r7 will end up being too stiff.
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I just ordered a Madness impact light, does anyone know if it's just a normal R7 board with the carbon fiber insert or do they use a more traditional process with Franklin sk-8 glue for the impact boards?
I'm curious about this thing but I almost feel like a reinforced r7 will end up being too stiff.
My friend swears by those impact lights.
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I just ordered a Madness impact light, does anyone know if it's just a normal R7 board with the carbon fiber insert or do they use a more traditional process with Franklin sk-8 glue for the impact boards?
I'm curious about this thing but I almost feel like a reinforced r7 will end up being too stiff.
its r7, itll be dope. double impacts were very stiff. impact light is good feeling for a long time.
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Anybody know the deal as to if there is a spectrum of different quality boards coming out of one shop?
For example: went to my local shop and picked up an Ishod REAL deck, marked I (for top of stack i presume).
was considering some of the shop decks which the clerk said were pressed at the same factory BBS. the board was same width and length as the REAL deck (8.3 x32) but felt way heavier in your hand and clunky. even the shop dude agreed when he compared them...
I've gotten AWS boards too that seem to be heavier than REAL wood in the same size (8.25's)
maybe it works like food ordering systems for restaurants where they can order different grades of "organic" food. - so like some shittier wood or glue combo coming out of a prestigious shop...?
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Yes, just like you said it.
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Anybody know the deal as to if there is a spectrum of different quality boards coming out of one shop?
For example: went to my local shop and picked up an Ishod REAL deck, marked I (for top of stack i presume).
was considering some of the shop decks which the clerk said were pressed at the same factory BBS. the board was same width and length as the REAL deck (8.3 x32) but felt way heavier in your hand and clunky. even the shop dude agreed when he compared them...
I've gotten AWS boards too that seem to be heavier than REAL wood in the same size (8.25's)
maybe it works like food ordering systems for restaurants where they can order different grades of "organic" food. - so like some shittier wood or glue combo coming out of a prestigious shop...?
I was wondering the same thing about BBS/generator as I’ve noticed the Real/Krooked decks are obviously from the same worship but the Scram decks I have seen a bit different. Maybe a little thicker of something
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dunno if it applies to the US market but i know certain brands (aws/antihero/habitat) use a diff woodshop for price point/euro decks iirc
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dunno if it applies to the US market but i know certain brands (aws/antihero/habitat) use a diff woodshop for price point/euro decks iirc
Some do, but there's still some variation between brands that use the same shop. If I had to guess they probably somewhat prioritize the bigger companies so like DLX would get the best batches of wood while someone getting a small run of shop boards might get the average stuff. Kinda the same way guitar builders do, or the way they use the best wood for face veneers. Or maybe they run the shop orders on older presses or something?
Does anyone know who does Skate Mental? I see Tired is listed under PS so I would assume it's them but they don't seem to have any of the usual PS identification details.
Edit: For all the other Pennswood fans out there they just put a bunch of shit up cheap. Lots of good stuff, especially if you ride smaller boards.
https://pennswood.myshopify.com/
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Iirc skate mental was using the same china shop that crail was using but this was also years ago
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Yes, just like you said it.
I agree too....I tend to even think DLX stuff is better than other brands that use generator like Magenta or Alltimers. Not way better, but just better. It's like there are tiers....and that said the other smaller brands, when I've skated them, never really had problems, but the DLX stuff is maybe 10-20% better?
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dunno if it applies to the US market but i know certain brands (aws/antihero/habitat) use a diff woodshop for price point/euro decks iirc
Some do, but there's still some variation between brands that use the same shop. If I had to guess they probably somewhat prioritize the bigger companies so like DLX would get the best batches of wood while someone getting a small run of shop boards might get the average stuff. Kinda the same way guitar builders do, or the way they use the best wood for face veneers. Or maybe they run the shop orders on older presses or something?
Does anyone know who does Skate Mental? I see Tired is listed under PS so I would assume it's them but they don't seem to have any of the usual PS identification details.
Edit: For all the other Pennswood fans out there they just put a bunch of shit up cheap. Lots of good stuff, especially if you ride smaller boards.
https://pennswood.myshopify.com/
skate mental is bbs now
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dunno if it applies to the US market but i know certain brands (aws/antihero/habitat) use a diff woodshop for price point/euro decks iirc
Some do, but there's still some variation between brands that use the same shop. If I had to guess they probably somewhat prioritize the bigger companies so like DLX would get the best batches of wood while someone getting a small run of shop boards might get the average stuff. Kinda the same way guitar builders do, or the way they use the best wood for face veneers. Or maybe they run the shop orders on older presses or something?
Does anyone know who does Skate Mental? I see Tired is listed under PS so I would assume it's them but they don't seem to have any of the usual PS identification details.
Edit: For all the other Pennswood fans out there they just put a bunch of shit up cheap. Lots of good stuff, especially if you ride smaller boards.
https://pennswood.myshopify.com/
skate mental is bbs now
Oh damn. That’s an improvement.
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Anybody know the deal as to if there is a spectrum of different quality boards coming out of one shop?
For example: went to my local shop and picked up an Ishod REAL deck, marked I (for top of stack i presume).
was considering some of the shop decks which the clerk said were pressed at the same factory BBS. the board was same width and length as the REAL deck (8.3 x32) but felt way heavier in your hand and clunky. even the shop dude agreed when he compared them...
I've gotten AWS boards too that seem to be heavier than REAL wood in the same size (8.25's)
maybe it works like food ordering systems for restaurants where they can order different grades of "organic" food. - so like some shittier wood or glue combo coming out of a prestigious shop...?
I recently had 2 of the same Antihero boards. One was noticeably thicker and heavier. I weighed them and it was indeed true. I have 2 of the same Krooked boards sitting here right now that are also much different.
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who presses for madrid?
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For some reason I think they had their own shop.
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Fixer skateboards are ASF/Clutch, not South central (messages them on Instagram to ask a few months ago)
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For some reason I think they had their own shop.
Yeah I was also under the impression Madrid does things in-house.
Anyone got any info on Demon Seed? They've got some rad graphics and interesting shapes.
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who presses for madrid?
Madrid
https://www.madridskateboards.com/pages/madrid-skateboards-our-history
Today, we're still turning out skateboards from our Huntington Beach factory with the belief that boards should be crafted to perfection and guaranteed to perform.
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From what I recall, the boards seemed to be not so hot....fine for some old school shit, but that's about it...
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Anybody know the deal as to if there is a spectrum of different quality boards coming out of one shop?
For example: went to my local shop and picked up an Ishod REAL deck, marked I (for top of stack i presume).
was considering some of the shop decks which the clerk said were pressed at the same factory BBS. the board was same width and length as the REAL deck (8.3 x32) but felt way heavier in your hand and clunky. even the shop dude agreed when he compared them...
I've gotten AWS boards too that seem to be heavier than REAL wood in the same size (8.25's)
maybe it works like food ordering systems for restaurants where they can order different grades of "organic" food. - so like some shittier wood or glue combo coming out of a prestigious shop...?
I recently had 2 of the same Antihero boards. One was noticeably thicker and heavier. I weighed them and it was indeed true. I have 2 of the same Krooked boards sitting here right now that are also much different.
https://i.4pcdn.org/tg/1412045295767.gif
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From what I recall, the boards seemed to be not so hot....fine for some old school shit, but that's about it...
yeah once i heard in house pressed i lost all interest. no need to buy if i dont trust the wood
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who presses muta skateboards?
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who presses muta skateboards?
Double, Triple sometimes Quad post woodshop
Have you heard of them?
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I need some advice on a new board.
Never really knew about the diffrences between brands before coming here. Been riding a 8-9” something pooldeck back and forth for 10 years.
Got a 8.5 x 32 Popsicle, felt just as wide as the old deck. Got a 8.125 to try the smallest size my trucks would allow and its a tad to narrow. Noticed this one was shorter also.
At 6.5’ I think a little longer wheelbase would be nice. I wanna get a 8.25 or 8.38 with a 32 something wheelbase as aces shortened the wb.
What are you tall guys with 11.5+ shoe size riding?
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I need some advice on a new board.
Never really knew about the diffrences between brands before coming here. Been riding a 8-9” something pooldeck back and forth for 10 years.
Got a 8.5 x 32 Popsicle, felt just as wide as the old deck. Got a 8.125 to try the smallest size my trucks would allow and its a tad to narrow. Noticed this one was shorter also.
At 6.5’ I think a little longer wheelbase would be nice. I wanna get a 8.25 or 8.38 with a 32 something wheelbase as aces shortened the wb.
What are you tall guys with 11.5+ shoe size riding?
You may wanna try out a Real deck. The 8.25 decks that have a 32 length and a 14 3/8 wheelbase are great. Anti-Hero and Krooked also with the same dimensions, seeing theyre all Deluxe brands. But im only 5.8', so you could maybe try one of their 8.38 decks also.
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This is what I was going to say....anything DLX or is pressed by generator tend to have wheelbases over 14.25, I think 917 runs some even longer and if you poke around I bet something DLX would have something good too.
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Don't know how to embed. Could someone do that please?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=18MRZq0bhpE
4 hours of the Professor curing your madness. Totally worked for me. Completely. 100%. Next deck I buy won't involve a maddening search for wheelbase and tail dimensions. Then second guessing my wheel size. Cast or forged baseplates
Extra treat?
Screenshot 3:37:45
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Don't know how to embed. Could someone do that please?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=18MRZq0bhpE
4 hours of the Professor curing your madness. Totally worked for me. Completely. 100%. Next deck I buy won't involve a maddening search for wheelbase and tail dimensions. Then second guessing my wheel size. Cast or forged baseplates
Extra treat?
Screenshot 3:37:45
Genuinely curious. I’ve not had a chance to listen but what made it help you out with the dimensional madness we seem to have. I want a cure!
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I was eating it in Spotify but I stopped, I needed to see it. I'm on 1:15:00 and I'm loving it.
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I need some advice on a new board.
Never really knew about the diffrences between brands before coming here. Been riding a 8-9” something pooldeck back and forth for 10 years.
Got a 8.5 x 32 Popsicle, felt just as wide as the old deck. Got a 8.125 to try the smallest size my trucks would allow and its a tad to narrow. Noticed this one was shorter also.
At 6.5’ I think a little longer wheelbase would be nice. I wanna get a 8.25 or 8.38 with a 32 something wheelbase as aces shortened the wb.
What are you tall guys with 11.5+ shoe size riding?
You may wanna try out a Real deck. The 8.25 decks that have a 32 length and a 14 3/8 wheelbase are great. Anti-Hero and Krooked also with the same dimensions, seeing theyre all Deluxe brands. But im only 5.8', so you could maybe try one of their 8.38 decks also.
The 8.25" Full has a 14.5" wheelbase. Only tried one briefly but it felt super nice. If you want longer still, the 8.38" full has a 14.62" wheelbase. Both have shortish tails though. Be sure to get the Fulls, not Full SE (Short Edition).
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just got this cheap DGK deck and noticed this little glitches on the wood.
anyone know if they are some kind of price point decks?
http://imgur.com/pnPBeEv
http://imgur.com/7I8wlbD
http://imgur.com/OhRyG8R
http://imgur.com/niaPuPN
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I need some advice on a new board.
Never really knew about the diffrences between brands before coming here. Been riding a 8-9” something pooldeck back and forth for 10 years.
Got a 8.5 x 32 Popsicle, felt just as wide as the old deck. Got a 8.125 to try the smallest size my trucks would allow and its a tad to narrow. Noticed this one was shorter also.
At 6.5’ I think a little longer wheelbase would be nice. I wanna get a 8.25 or 8.38 with a 32 something wheelbase as aces shortened the wb.
What are you tall guys with 11.5+ shoe size riding?
You may wanna try out a Real deck. The 8.25 decks that have a 32 length and a 14 3/8 wheelbase are great. Anti-Hero and Krooked also with the same dimensions, seeing theyre all Deluxe brands. But im only 5.8', so you could maybe try one of their 8.38 decks also.
The 8.25" Full has a 14.5" wheelbase. Only tried one briefly but it felt super nice. If you want longer still, the 8.38" full has a 14.62" wheelbase. Both have shortish tails though. Be sure to get the Fulls, not Full SE (Short Edition).
Thanks, dont know if i can find a real board here in sweden. There should be plenty of deluxe boards tho!
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I need some advice on a new board.
Never really knew about the diffrences between brands before coming here. Been riding a 8-9” something pooldeck back and forth for 10 years.
Got a 8.5 x 32 Popsicle, felt just as wide as the old deck. Got a 8.125 to try the smallest size my trucks would allow and its a tad to narrow. Noticed this one was shorter also.
At 6.5’ I think a little longer wheelbase would be nice. I wanna get a 8.25 or 8.38 with a 32 something wheelbase as aces shortened the wb.
What are you tall guys with 11.5+ shoe size riding?
You may wanna try out a Real deck. The 8.25 decks that have a 32 length and a 14 3/8 wheelbase are great. Anti-Hero and Krooked also with the same dimensions, seeing theyre all Deluxe brands. But im only 5.8', so you could maybe try one of their 8.38 decks also.
The 8.25" Full has a 14.5" wheelbase. Only tried one briefly but it felt super nice. If you want longer still, the 8.38" full has a 14.62" wheelbase. Both have shortish tails though. Be sure to get the Fulls, not Full SE (Short Edition).
Thanks, dont know if i can find a real board here in sweden. There should be plenty of deluxe boards tho!
Yet to be disappointment by DLX boards, been trying loads of boards over the years and while they take some getting used to in terms of length and WB, they have a great shape and keep their pop for a long time. Paired them with some Thunder 148, would work with 147s too, and the pop feel was solid. Attribute this combination to getting my kickflips back.
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just got this cheap DGK deck and noticed this little glitches on the wood.
anyone know if they are some kind of price point decks?
http://imgur.com/pnPBeEv
http://imgur.com/7I8wlbD
http://imgur.com/OhRyG8R
http://imgur.com/niaPuPN
They look like knots in the wood and shouldn't affect the strength when used for the inner plies
Think BBS and Powell talk about this in their factory tour vids
But gotta ask.. did a piece fall out? That'd annoy me
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I'm interested in Western Edition. I know they're PS Stix, but has anyone ever had one of their decks before?
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just got this cheap DGK deck and noticed this little glitches on the wood.
anyone know if they are some kind of price point decks?
http://imgur.com/pnPBeEv
http://imgur.com/7I8wlbD
http://imgur.com/OhRyG8R
http://imgur.com/niaPuPN
Those are small knots in the plys that have been burnished over. They should be no problem to the board. Smaller knots don't usually unseat themselves. I've had a few BBS boards with them that never presented an issue over the life of the deck. As far as price point? With that amount of stained plys I'd say it's not, but I'm not too knowledgable on DGK stuff.
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I'm interested in Western Edition. I know they're PS Stix, but has anyone ever had one of their decks before?
How old is western edition? 15 years? I had one about that long ago. They are a sick brand. The board was dope. Also have a t-shirt from the same era, only skate shirt I kept. Best graphics
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Don't know how to embed. Could someone do that please?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=18MRZq0bhpE
4 hours of the Professor curing your madness. Totally worked for me. Completely. 100%. Next deck I buy won't involve a maddening search for wheelbase and tail dimensions. Then second guessing my wheel size. Cast or forged baseplates
Extra treat?
Screenshot 3:37:45
Genuinely curious. I’ve not had a chance to listen but what made it help you out with the dimensional madness we seem to have. I want a cure!
What?
You missed the part where he tells to how to pick out your ideal setup?
Gonna have to rewatch the whole thing
Nah, tbh it's all spread throughout the interview with him talking about physics and tuning to ppl's body type and skill level. What he says about Lee's wheelbase deserves some rambling but I think it'd involve talking about hip width and Q angles. Think it's Q angles..
And your *true* inseam, not the size pants you buy. What that's really trying to gauge is leg length from the ground to the pivot of your hip joint
If you're into math, physics, engineering this stuff shouldn't be groundbreaking but does serve as a great refresher and might even point out some stuff that you didn't think about. And hence the madness grows...
Was great for me cuz I got to see someone rabbitholing worse than me. I've measuring my wheels with calipers for decades and I'm just mildly curious
I've thought about using an angle finder like that to check assembled nose/tail angles but didn't wanna give into the madness
Also nice to know that the flexiness of modern boards is by design and not just cuz they got too thin. I don't recall Featherlights being weirdly flexy but I could def feel it with a Fiberlight
I wish he had talking more about concave and board strength. Everyone ignores that fact that some modern decks have spoon noses/tails and vexcave!
I love, love, love the Professor. Couldn't thank him enough cuz I absolutely loved PS Stix boards in the 90's. I'd skate them now but don't have any in the stack yet. And just listening to the history of what he's done amazes me. I can't believe how much he's done to improve skateboards. And it's frightening to think, "what if he'd never done all that for us?"
Thanks Professor!!!
That said I think there's a bit of a generational bias to what the Prof says. I was a grom in the late 80's, I can remember his Schmitt ad where he's riding a Yardstick and I think he's wearing a lab coat too. Guessing he was mid-twenties at the time? Early-twenties? He probably wasn't working on boned out melons or how may boards he could ollie, mobbed out fliptricks, etc. He would probably destroy me on transitions tomorrow but who couldn't?
So, ramp vs street.. old guard vs new school..
IMO, you don't need a *real* nose for a good ollie. Look at mid-80's Mullen footage before you argue that point..
What *I think* happening is you use the mass of the front truck as an "anchor point" and with your front foot in front of or over this mass you can leverage the back end up. Or you're just stopping the board's upward motion at the front while allowing it to continue at the back
Idk, maybe I'm not picturing the free body diagrams correctly. Totally open for discussion here..
And the thing with wheel shape.. I *think* he's talking about (polar moments of) inertia but the way he describes it makes it seem like he's referring to rebound (spring back) in the wheels affecting your flip. Kinda like how a tre is all in your back foot and the bushings help the flip. Or pressure flip..
Cuz the board being tippy when it's on the ground wouldn't affect a kickflip. Other than its lower moment of inertia cuz the wheels are lighter/skinner or set farther inwards. Been a minute since I had to talk geek, hope I doing ok
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Madrid
https://www.madridskateboards.com/pages/madrid-skateboards-our-history
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Today, we're still turning out skateboards from our Huntington Beach factory with the belief that boards should be crafted to perfection and guaranteed to perform.
Anyone skate those old Flip decks with the rippled bottoms? Think it was late-90's
I'm pretty sure those were pressed by Madrid and called New Wave Construction. Madrid had vids in the early-2010's advertising it but I didn't see any brands except Madrid using it
And looking thru that site I saw some trucks that might trigger someone's wheelbase madness
You see those?
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And the thing with wheel shape.. I *think* he's talking about (polar moments of) inertia but the way he describes it makes it seem like he's referring to rebound (spring back) in the wheels affecting your flip. Kinda like how a tre is all in your back foot and the bushings help the flip. Or pressure flip..
Cuz the board being tippy when it's on the ground wouldn't affect a kickflip. Other than its lower moment of inertia cuz the wheels are lighter/skinner or set farther inwards. Been a minute since I had to talk geek, hope I doing ok
The way I understood wheel shape as he was talking about it was how easy it is to initiate the flip. To take it to the limits - picture one setup with very square edge like a Spitfire Tablet and another that is super round like an OJ Little Doodies. I think what he is saying is that the round wheel will tip easier into a flip because the board basically rolls over the edge radius. On a square wheel it tips instead of rolling which means the board actually needs to lift more and it takes more effort. Super subtle stuff.
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And the thing with wheel shape.. I *think* he's talking about (polar moments of) inertia but the way he describes it makes it seem like he's referring to rebound (spring back) in the wheels affecting your flip. Kinda like how a tre is all in your back foot and the bushings help the flip. Or pressure flip..
Cuz the board being tippy when it's on the ground wouldn't affect a kickflip. Other than its lower moment of inertia cuz the wheels are lighter/skinner or set farther inwards. Been a minute since I had to talk geek, hope I doing ok
The way I understood wheel shape as he was talking about it was how easy it is to initiate the flip. To take it to the limits - picture one setup with very square edge like a Spitfire Tablet and another that is super round like an OJ Little Doodies. I think what he is saying is that the round wheel will tip easier into a flip because the board basically rolls over the edge radius. On a square wheel it tips instead of rolling which means the board actually needs to lift more and it takes more effort. Super subtle stuff.
I think I get what you're saying with the square wheel tipping more quickly vs a larger radius edge.
To put it another way the change in angle (in the roll axis) would be quicker, jerkier, with the squarer wheel. I imagine it like a smaller radius
But I'm uncertain what you mean by "which means the board actually needs to lift more and it takes more effort." Could you go into that a lil bit more? Lift as in push down on the tail? Or a rail is lifting and the board is flipping? Think that part of the vid is where I got lost
For the sake of this discussion could we keep it too just kickflips? Maybe heelflips too?
I think stuff like tre's, hardflips, pressure flips or invisible flips that start rotating from the initial pop would be affected by what you're describing but what your trucks do will have a greater effect. (and now I'm 2nd guessing affect and effect and too lazy to looking it up. This thinking shit really is a headache)
Tail/nose shape will also play into things. Pointy tail vs whaletail or square tail and us mortals might have a tough time adjusting
Even something like an og Reynolds fs flip. Have you seen the old how-to vid where he puts his feet kinda weird. Well, weird for me cuz my trucks are way too loose for that. The foot position would make it tough for me to go straight and the loose trucks eat up any benefit popping from that position might give. Idk maybe I did suck?
Tricks that rotate (yaw axis) could be part 2?
Ok. Kickflips. This is from memory.. I'm old and I should start working on them again..
There's probably preference here. Do you want your board to start flipping from the initial pop? To me that's gonna be a slower flipping flip that might look really steezy. For me personally I'd probably wiff it. Pop it, flick it quick, catch it worked better for me. Idk maybe I was a hyper kid?
And also where does a Jeremy Wrey style kickflip fit in? He's doing them from his regular ollie position. (Is that called glue foot?)
When the flick is happening later I don't see the tipsiness of the wheels being a major factor
Heelflips?
We mobbing them or flicking them?
Mobbed. Yeah, tipsiness would probably help. But I doubt they're popped to your full potential.
If you're popping and then flicking I'm back to thinking the wheel shape doesn't really matter. The wobble in your trucks is the bigger issue. And the bushings are always gonna be softer than your wheels
That's just my take on straight flips. And it all does go back to preferences. What do you guys think about my stoner thoughts?
And where's that screenshot dammit!
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just got this cheap DGK deck and noticed this little glitches on the wood.
anyone know if they are some kind of price point decks?
http://imgur.com/pnPBeEv
http://imgur.com/7I8wlbD
http://imgur.com/OhRyG8R
http://imgur.com/niaPuPN
Think BBS and Powell talk about this in their factory tour vids
But gotta ask.. did a piece fall out? That'd annoy me
no piece fall out, at least yet.
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just got this cheap DGK deck and noticed this little glitches on the wood.
anyone know if they are some kind of price point decks?
http://imgur.com/pnPBeEv
http://imgur.com/7I8wlbD
http://imgur.com/OhRyG8R
http://imgur.com/niaPuPN
Those are small knots in the plys that have been burnished over. They should be no problem to the board. Smaller knots don't usually unseat themselves. I've had a few BBS boards with them that never presented an issue over the life of the deck. As far as price point? With that amount of stained plys I'd say it's not, but I'm not too knowledgable on DGK stuff.
thanks for all the input pals, gotta update here if some shit happens.
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Who does Birch? PS Stix?
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I need some advice on a new board.
Never really knew about the diffrences between brands before coming here. Been riding a 8-9” something pooldeck back and forth for 10 years.
Got a 8.5 x 32 Popsicle, felt just as wide as the old deck. Got a 8.125 to try the smallest size my trucks would allow and its a tad to narrow. Noticed this one was shorter also.
At 6.5’ I think a little longer wheelbase would be nice. I wanna get a 8.25 or 8.38 with a 32 something wheelbase as aces shortened the wb.
What are you tall guys with 11.5+ shoe size riding?
You may wanna try out a Real deck. The 8.25 decks that have a 32 length and a 14 3/8 wheelbase are great. Anti-Hero and Krooked also with the same dimensions, seeing theyre all Deluxe brands. But im only 5.8', so you could maybe try one of their 8.38 decks also.
The 8.25" Full has a 14.5" wheelbase. Only tried one briefly but it felt super nice. If you want longer still, the 8.38" full has a 14.62" wheelbase. Both have shortish tails though. Be sure to get the Fulls, not Full SE (Short Edition).
Thanks, dont know if i can find a real board here in sweden. There should be plenty of deluxe boards tho!
I'm in Finland and have been skating mostly Reals for a while now. I'm sure they're available in Sweden too. And Krooked and Antihero both do boards in the full shapes too so I don't think finding one should be too difficult.
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Don't know how to embed. Could someone do that please?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=18MRZq0bhpE
4 hours of the Professor curing your madness. Totally worked for me. Completely. 100%. Next deck I buy won't involve a maddening search for wheelbase and tail dimensions. Then second guessing my wheel size. Cast or forged baseplates
Extra treat?
Screenshot 3:37:45
Genuinely curious. I’ve not had a chance to listen but what made it help you out with the dimensional madness we seem to have. I want a cure!
You missed the part where he tells to how to pick out your ideal setup?
Gonna have to rewatch the whole thing
Nah, tbh it's all spread throughout the interview with him talking about physics and tuning to ppl's body type and skill level. What he says about Lee's wheelbase deserves some rambling but I think it'd involve talking about hip width and Q angles. Think it's Q angles..
And your *true* inseam, not the size pants you buy. What that's really trying to gauge is leg length from the ground to the pivot of your hip joint
If you're into math, physics, engineering this stuff shouldn't be groundbreaking but does serve as a great refresher and might even point out some stuff that you didn't think about. And hence the madness grows...
Was great for me cuz I got to see someone rabbitholing worse than me. I've measuring my wheels with calipers for decades and I'm just mildly curious
I've thought about using an angle finder like that to check assembled nose/tail angles but didn't wanna give into the madness
Also nice to know that the flexiness of modern boards is by design and not just cuz they got too thin. I don't recall Featherlights being weirdly flexy but I could def feel it with a Fiberlight
I wish he had talking more about concave and board strength. Everyone ignores that fact that some modern decks have spoon noses/tails and vexcave!
I love, love, love the Professor. Couldn't thank him enough cuz I absolutely loved PS Stix boards in the 90's. I'd skate them now but don't have any in the stack yet. And just listening to the history of what he's done amazes me. I can't believe how much he's done to improve skateboards. And it's frightening to think, "what if he'd never done all that for us?"
Thanks Professor!!!
That said I think there's a bit of a generational bias to what the Prof says. I was a grom in the late 80's, I can remember his Schmitt ad where he's riding a Yardstick and I think he's wearing a lab coat too. Guessing he was mid-twenties at the time? Early-twenties? He probably wasn't working on boned out melons or how may boards he could ollie, mobbed out fliptricks, etc. He would probably destroy me on transitions tomorrow but who couldn't?
So, ramp vs street.. old guard vs new school..
IMO, you don't need a *real* nose for a good ollie. Look at mid-80's Mullen footage before you argue that point..
What *I think* happening is you use the mass of the front truck as an "anchor point" and with your front foot in front of or over this mass you can leverage the back end up. Or you're just stopping the board's upward motion at the front while allowing it to continue at the back
Idk, maybe I'm not picturing the free body diagrams correctly. Totally open for discussion here..
And the thing with wheel shape.. I *think* he's talking about (polar moments of) inertia but the way he describes it makes it seem like he's referring to rebound (spring back) in the wheels affecting your flip. Kinda like how a tre is all in your back foot and the bushings help the flip. Or pressure flip..
Cuz the board being tippy when it's on the ground wouldn't affect a kickflip. Other than its lower moment of inertia cuz the wheels are lighter/skinner or set farther inwards. Been a minute since I had to talk geek, hope I doing ok
You could use your smartphone to get the angle. On iPhone on the measuring app you can get the degrees with no decimal points but with a separate app you can get more decimals. I'd think similar hardware and apps are on Android too.
About Schmitt's talk about wheels I agree with you fully. I think he was way off there. I actually just commented about it on the Nine Club thread.
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I need some advice on a new board.
Never really knew about the diffrences between brands before coming here. Been riding a 8-9” something pooldeck back and forth for 10 years.
Got a 8.5 x 32 Popsicle, felt just as wide as the old deck. Got a 8.125 to try the smallest size my trucks would allow and its a tad to narrow. Noticed this one was shorter also.
At 6.5’ I think a little longer wheelbase would be nice. I wanna get a 8.25 or 8.38 with a 32 something wheelbase as aces shortened the wb.
What are you tall guys with 11.5+ shoe size riding?
You may wanna try out a Real deck. The 8.25 decks that have a 32 length and a 14 3/8 wheelbase are great. Anti-Hero and Krooked also with the same dimensions, seeing theyre all Deluxe brands. But im only 5.8', so you could maybe try one of their 8.38 decks also.
The 8.25" Full has a 14.5" wheelbase. Only tried one briefly but it felt super nice. If you want longer still, the 8.38" full has a 14.62" wheelbase. Both have shortish tails though. Be sure to get the Fulls, not Full SE (Short Edition).
Thanks, dont know if i can find a real board here in sweden. There should be plenty of deluxe boards tho!
I'm in Finland and have been skating mostly Reals for a while now. I'm sure they're available in Sweden too. And Krooked and Antihero both do boards in the full shapes too so I don't think finding one should be too difficult.
For sure! I Just figured it would be easier to find any Deluxe board instead of a specific brand as the shape is the same.
Edit: Googled full shapes, looks nice! Maybe I misunderstood you guys, is it only Real that makes these full shapes? Or does most Deluxe brands have that shape?
Sorry im so tired right now.. 😁
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I need some advice on a new board.
Never really knew about the diffrences between brands before coming here. Been riding a 8-9” something pooldeck back and forth for 10 years.
Got a 8.5 x 32 Popsicle, felt just as wide as the old deck. Got a 8.125 to try the smallest size my trucks would allow and its a tad to narrow. Noticed this one was shorter also.
At 6.5’ I think a little longer wheelbase would be nice. I wanna get a 8.25 or 8.38 with a 32 something wheelbase as aces shortened the wb.
What are you tall guys with 11.5+ shoe size riding?
You may wanna try out a Real deck. The 8.25 decks that have a 32 length and a 14 3/8 wheelbase are great. Anti-Hero and Krooked also with the same dimensions, seeing theyre all Deluxe brands. But im only 5.8', so you could maybe try one of their 8.38 decks also.
The 8.25" Full has a 14.5" wheelbase. Only tried one briefly but it felt super nice. If you want longer still, the 8.38" full has a 14.62" wheelbase. Both have shortish tails though. Be sure to get the Fulls, not Full SE (Short Edition).
Thanks, dont know if i can find a real board here in sweden. There should be plenty of deluxe boards tho!
I'm in Finland and have been skating mostly Reals for a while now. I'm sure they're available in Sweden too. And Krooked and Antihero both do boards in the full shapes too so I don't think finding one should be too difficult.
For sure! I Just figured it would be easier to find any Deluxe board instead of a specific brand as the shape is the same.
Edit: Googled full shapes, looks nice! Maybe I misunderstood you guys, is it only Real that makes these full shapes? Or does most Deluxe brands have that shape?
Sorry im so tired right now.. 😁
Antihero and Krooked have them too and currently have several graphics available at least for the 8.25 Full, probably other widths too.
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Allright mate, Cheers!
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The full shape is so nice. I cant go back to regular shape.
Helps tremendously with anything that requires scooping, or tricks where you need to stand on the nose/tail, like noseslide.
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Anyone know who does Alien Workshop Decks in Europe? Think I read something about HLC for the pricepoints, are the pro-models better quality?
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Anyone know who does Alien Workshop Decks in Europe? Think I read something about HLC for the pricepoints, are the pro-models better quality?
I don't know who does them but if it is HLC then I'd definitely give them a shot. I've heard they used to have a reputation for for crappy wood but I got my first Jart/HLC deck a few months ago (sour black Jesus 8.5) and was pretty happy with the quality. Mine is really solid and stiff, has good pop, and seems pretty much impervious to damage. Only negative is that it's heavy, but it's manageable and with the right pair of trucks I won't even notice it until I get a shinner or drop it on my foot.
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Anyone know who does Alien Workshop Decks in Europe? Think I read something about HLC for the pricepoints, are the pro-models better quality?
I don't know who does them but if it is HLC then I'd definitely give them a shot. I've heard they used to have a reputation for for crappy wood but I got my first Jart/HLC deck a few months ago (sour black Jesus 8.5) and was pretty happy with the quality. Mine is really solid and stiff, has good pop, and seems pretty much impervious to damage. Only negative is that it's heavy, but it's manageable and with the right pair of trucks I won't even notice it until I get a shinner or drop it on my foot.
I know for sure Habitat Europe was/is made by HLC, but I don't think Alien is made by HLC
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Anyone know who does Alien Workshop Decks in Europe? Think I read something about HLC for the pricepoints, are the pro-models better quality?
I don't know who does them but if it is HLC then I'd definitely give them a shot. I've heard they used to have a reputation for for crappy wood but I got my first Jart/HLC deck a few months ago (sour black Jesus 8.5) and was pretty happy with the quality. Mine is really solid and stiff, has good pop, and seems pretty much impervious to damage. Only negative is that it's heavy, but it's manageable and with the right pair of trucks I won't even notice it until I get a shinner or drop it on my foot.
Also backing HLC, had a couple nationals and they were great as are Jart's old stuff.
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Anyone know who does Alien Workshop Decks in Europe? Think I read something about HLC for the pricepoints, are the pro-models better quality?
I don't know who does them but if it is HLC then I'd definitely give them a shot. I've heard they used to have a reputation for for crappy wood but I got my first Jart/HLC deck a few months ago (sour black Jesus 8.5) and was pretty happy with the quality. Mine is really solid and stiff, has good pop, and seems pretty much impervious to damage. Only negative is that it's heavy, but it's manageable and with the right pair of trucks I won't even notice it until I get a shinner or drop it on my foot.
Also backing HLC, had a couple nationals and they were great as are Jart's old stuff.
Rode a Jart board when I restarted skateboarding this year. Steep concaves but too many fingers of flat for me which made the nose and tail feel very short. This was on a 7.75 x 31.2 x 14.2; coupled with Venture 5.0 Lows and I suffered from lots of ghost pop.
This board is at least 5 years old, hopefully the shapes and dimensions have gotten more aligned with current needs.
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I had a Sour board and I loved to but yes, is in the heavy side but nothing unmanageable.
Regarding Jart I have mixed feelings. I really liked but I felt that it lasted 2 good weeks and after that wood felt soggy and weak.
2 weeks awesome, 1 week like "ugh, but I can do this" and in the fourth is was a big no no.
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I had a Sour board and I loved to but yes, is in the heavy side but nothing unmanageable.
Regarding Jart I have mixed feelings. I really liked but I felt that it lasted 2 good weeks and after that wood felt soggy and weak.
2 weeks awesome, 1 week like "ugh, but I can do this" and in the fourth is was a big no no.
Same as it ever was.
Regarding Alien workshop in Europe, some are Bareback but some older ones made in China. I would just contact the shop and ask.
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Just saw scumco got a shipment of ps for their new run. Not 100 percent sure how I feel about it though.
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Just saw scumco got a shipment of ps for their new run. Not 100 percent sure how I feel about it though.
Just saw that too, 100% disappointed.
I’m sure they have their reasons but I loved the Pennswood boards.
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Just saw scumco got a shipment of ps for their new run. Not 100 percent sure how I feel about it though.
I’m sure they have their reasons but I loved the Pennswood boards.
I can assure you of this.
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Just saw scumco got a shipment of ps for their new run. Not 100 percent sure how I feel about it though.
I’m sure they have their reasons but I loved the Pennswood boards.
Why disappointed?
What are the reasons?
Will they still have wide boards with short wb?
When I look at their site am I reading it correctly to assume the 8.62 logo board is 14” wb?
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Just saw scumco got a shipment of ps for their new run. Not 100 percent sure how I feel about it though.
I’m sure they have their reasons but I loved the Pennswood boards.
Why disappointed?
What are the reasons?
Will they still have wide boards with short wb?
When I look at their site am I reading it correctly to assume the 8.62 logo board is 14” wb?
Can’t speak for 8.6 but the 8.5’s had a 14 wheelbase and it was fantastic
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Yo what's the deal with this Creature Hard Maple shit?
They advertise it as being different from their normal decks and specifically call it NHS wood. Is it still Dwindle?
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Yo what's the deal with this Creature Hard Maple shit?
They advertise it as being different from their normal decks and specifically call it NHS wood. Is it still Dwindle?
Not a ton of evidence but it looks like the same old shit,
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=104378.0
Probably as innovative as "shieldless bearing technology."
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Yo what's the deal with this Creature Hard Maple shit?
They advertise it as being different from their normal decks and specifically call it NHS wood. Is it still Dwindle?
Not a ton of evidence but it looks like the same old shit,
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=104378.0
Probably as innovative as "shieldless bearing technology."
Thanks. I actually was just reading that thread. I'm skeptical with Dwindle period so I'll be sticking with PS, BBS, and Chapman... they've treated me best.
I'm just looking for an 8.3-8.4 x 32-32.375" with a 14.5-14.75" WB and there aren't a ton of options. Looks like I'll be going with Polar which is cool, I'd love to support the company but they have a tad bit too much concave for me. I normally ride Quasi's but I'm setting up a board for a bit of transition and some curbs and I have some Ace 44s to throw on it. I can't imagine using the 8.375 Quasi shape with anything other than Thunder/Venture trucks due to the amount of flat they have between the bolts and kicks.
If anyone has any recommendations let me know.
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Just saw scumco got a shipment of ps for their new run. Not 100 percent sure how I feel about it though.
I’m sure they have their reasons but I loved the Pennswood boards.
There definitely are reasons. He did use them for the last run of logo decks (which are still available), and it's not like this is the first time he's done runs through other wood shops. We should all be happy that they listened about the last ones not being great though.
I'm 100% in on PS, I was kind of skeptical after some of the stuff I read on here but the last few I've gotten (2 tumyeto and a WKND) have been fantastic and I'm a big fan of their tendency to have full shapes and wide kicks. Definitely hyped about this. Best company.
Can’t speak for 8.6 but the 8.5’s had a 14 wheelbase and it was fantastic
I can. They're all 14" wb. I've had them from 8.125-8.75 and they're all the same. If you're freaked out about it being too short you can kind of stretch it out with Ventures, or if you're a sadist like me you can try skating one with Theeves and feel like you're going to die every time you get near a hill. Personally, I like them best with Ventures or Thunders.
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Yo what's the deal with this Creature Hard Maple shit?
They advertise it as being different from their normal decks and specifically call it NHS wood. Is it still Dwindle?
Not a ton of evidence but it looks like the same old shit,
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=104378.0
Probably as innovative as "shieldless bearing technology."
Thanks. I actually was just reading that thread. I'm skeptical with Dwindle period so I'll be sticking with PS, BBS, and Chapman... they've treated me best.
I'm just looking for an 8.3-8.4 x 32-32.375" with a 14.5-14.75" WB and there aren't a ton of options. Looks like I'll be going with Polar which is cool, I'd love to support the company but they have a tad bit too much concave for me. I normally ride Quasi's but I'm setting up a board for a bit of transition and some curbs and I have some Ace 44s to throw on it. I can't imagine using the 8.375 Quasi shape with anything other than Thunder/Venture trucks due to the amount of flat they have between the bolts and kicks.
If anyone has any recommendations let me know.
I got one of the "hard rock maple" creatures a while ago, it was ok for about a week or two and then just sogged right out. It was bad enough that when I gave it away to a kid who needed a board I felt guilty about it so I gave him a blood wizard deck too. Dwindle/DSM has been good for me if its r7/impact, good pop and durability but if you're not a fan of super stiff decks then they might not be a great choice for you. Sometimes when I land weird on them it hurts my feet the same way your hands hurt when you foul a ball off the tapered part of an aluminum bat.
That being said, if you're ok with kinda weird shapes then I think madness has a deck or two in that range. I think Welcome does as well. Not sure about the length but Heroin does some really long wheelbases as well. Try using SPOT's deck size search or if all else fails, take the old school DIY approach and drill your wheelbase out yourself.
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Makes sense sales wise to switch to PS, has to be the most popular current shop/shapes, just for someone who prefers Penns, it’s a bit disappointing to lose one of the handful of brands using their wood.
I’ve got a nice little stack of the 8.6 logos though so I’m good for a bit
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Yo what's the deal with this Creature Hard Maple shit?
They advertise it as being different from their normal decks and specifically call it NHS wood. Is it still Dwindle?
Not a ton of evidence but it looks like the same old shit,
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=104378.0
Probably as innovative as "shieldless bearing technology."
Thanks. I actually was just reading that thread. I'm skeptical with Dwindle period so I'll be sticking with PS, BBS, and Chapman... they've treated me best.
I'm just looking for an 8.3-8.4 x 32-32.375" with a 14.5-14.75" WB and there aren't a ton of options. Looks like I'll be going with Polar which is cool, I'd love to support the company but they have a tad bit too much concave for me. I normally ride Quasi's but I'm setting up a board for a bit of transition and some curbs and I have some Ace 44s to throw on it. I can't imagine using the 8.375 Quasi shape with anything other than Thunder/Venture trucks due to the amount of flat they have between the bolts and kicks.
If anyone has any recommendations let me know.
Can't go wrong with those woodshops.
And understood. Only thing that popped into my head was any of the DLX full 8.3's. Everything sort of in the middle of your spec range, and if you get the higher number (IV I think?) it should be reasonably mellow. I had a Krooked 8.5 full with the flattest press number and it's equal to a Quasi concave (maybe a smidge steeper in the tail and nose).
https://www.tactics.com/anti-hero/cardiel-oblivion-838-full-shape-skateboard-deck
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I'm just looking for an 8.3-8.4 x 32-32.375" with a 14.5-14.75" WB and there aren't a ton of options. Looks like I'll be going with Polar which is cool, I'd love to support the company but they have a tad bit too much concave for me.
Baker OG Shape 8.38" has 14.5" wb and mellow concave. BBS.
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Just saw scumco got a shipment of ps for their new run. Not 100 percent sure how I feel about it though.
I’m sure they have their reasons but I loved the Pennswood boards.
There definitely are reasons. He did use them for the last run of logo decks (which are still available), and it's not like this is the first time he's done runs through other wood shops. We should all be happy that they listened about the last ones not being great though.
I'm 100% in on PS, I was kind of skeptical after some of the stuff I read on here but the last few I've gotten (2 tumyeto and a WKND) have been fantastic and I'm a big fan of their tendency to have full shapes and wide kicks. Definitely hyped about this. Best company.
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Can’t speak for 8.6 but the 8.5’s had a 14 wheelbase and it was fantastic
I can. They're all 14" wb. I've had them from 8.125-8.75 and they're all the same. If you're freaked out about it being too short you can kind of stretch it out with Ventures, or if you're a sadist like me you can try skating one with Theeves and feel like you're going to die every time you get near a hill. Personally, I like them best with Ventures or Thunders.
I want the 14” wb for ventures.
Ps gonna be the same?
Stuff that is on their site is penns or ps? (Like ps, haven’t skated penns)
Thanks for help and answers
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Yo what's the deal with this Creature Hard Maple shit?
They advertise it as being different from their normal decks and specifically call it NHS wood. Is it still Dwindle?
Is shit. Ubershit. Cheap and crappy Chinese maple grade C.
Stay away from that.
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I want the 14” wb for ventures.
Ps gonna be the same?
Stuff that is on their site is penns or ps? (Like ps, haven’t skated penns)
Thanks for help and answers
None of the PS boards are up on the site yet and I don't know what the measurements are but if I get my hands on one I'll check.
If you click on the board it will tell you where it's done but the Pennswood boards available right now are the cruisers and the logo board. Definitely recommend trying one of the logo boards if you've never tried PW.
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Speaking of creature and nhs gimmicks. What’s up with the cold press stuff? I’m sure it’s bullshit but are the boards/wood better than normal nhs decks?
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I want the 14” wb for ventures.
Ps gonna be the same?
Stuff that is on their site is penns or ps? (Like ps, haven’t skated penns)
Thanks for help and answers
None of the PS boards are up on the site yet and I don't know what the measurements are but if I get my hands on one I'll check.
If you click on the board it will tell you where it's done but the Pennswood boards available right now are the cruisers and the logo board. Definitely recommend trying one of the logo boards if you've never tried PW.
Thanks bfrd
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I heard the new boards have a variety of sizes, lengths, and wheelbases. I guess they've got some standard PS dimensions in addition to some stuff you don't see that often. Looks like there's really something for everyone in this run.
Few more details - It's a 6 board set with graphics that stretch across the set. Team board and then pro models of Nicholson, Beall, Downey, KT, and Abair. Some interesting variance in shapes and sizes too. This is ScumCo's 10th year and they're starting it off with a bang. Apparently there's some other cool stuff in the works as well.
https://www.instagram.com/p/B6UJMFNBT1u/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
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Speaking of creature and nhs gimmicks. What’s up with the cold press stuff? I’m sure it’s bullshit but are the boards/wood better than normal nhs decks?
Cold press is standard among woodshops I believe, maybe the DSM or pricepoint boards are warm pressed in China. The board brands under NHS are Creature and Santa Cruz from the DSM woodshop in China. Haven't skated one in a few years but I think the safer bet would be to go with DLX or PS Stix boards.
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Speaking of creature and nhs gimmicks. What’s up with the cold press stuff? I’m sure it’s bullshit but are the boards/wood better than normal nhs decks?
Cold press is standard among woodshops I believe, maybe the DSM or pricepoint boards are warm pressed in China. The board brands under NHS are Creature and Santa Cruz from the DSM woodshop in China. Haven't skated one in a few years but I think the safer bet would be to go with DLX or PS Stix boards.
Yeah, Paul Schmitt goes over it in his Nine Club. Cold press takes longer to cure but is superior in that it doesn't damage the structure (nanotubes) of the wood and utilizes a more durable glue, whereas heat pressing damages the integrity of the wood and utilizes a different glue process that is far more brittle. Heat pressed boards can feel great new but will be less durable.
When Dwindle talks about each board being individually pressed, they can probably do that and keep the price point because of heat pressing. Kind of funny that they're advertising cold press as some kind of special construction when it is standard for Gen, PS, SC, etc.
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This makes sense but what about when the graphic is applied? I heard that boards that boards get put through high temperatures during the heat transfer process. Any truth to this?
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This makes sense but what about when the graphic is applied? I heard that boards that boards get put through high temperatures during the heat transfer process. Any truth to this?
Yeah it is but its not quite the same thing. Not as hot and not as long as curing, think of it like iron-on patch vs baking a cake. That being said, some old-school purists will tell you that any heat at all is bad for the board but coincidentally a lot of them seem to own or work for screen shops.
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I managed to get 5 of the 6 new ScumCo decks. Missing the Abair one but I'll definitely be grabbing it. If you guys are curious I can post some dimensions and notes I took about them for another member.
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Something else that came up in the nine club w. Paul Schmitt was talking about how he worked w. PJ for months on something only have him skate some board from Canada....I'm assuming it's Control, so they're good enough for him......I think it's the flat kicks, they do that real well....
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Speaking of creature and nhs gimmicks. What’s up with the cold press stuff? I’m sure it’s bullshit but are the boards/wood better than normal nhs decks?
Cold press is standard among woodshops I believe, maybe the DSM or pricepoint boards are warm pressed in China. The board brands under NHS are Creature and Santa Cruz from the DSM woodshop in China. Haven't skated one in a few years but I think the safer bet would be to go with DLX or PS Stix boards.
Yeah, Paul Schmitt goes over it in his Nine Club. Cold press takes longer to cure but is superior in that it doesn't damage the structure (nanotubes) of the wood and utilizes a more durable glue, whereas heat pressing damages the integrity of the wood and utilizes a different glue process that is far more brittle. Heat pressed boards can feel great new but will be less durable.
When Dwindle talks about each board being individually pressed, they can probably do that and keep the price point because of heat pressing. Kind of funny that they're advertising cold press as some kind of special construction when it is standard for Gen, PS, SC, etc.
I think he also says that you have to use heat with epoxy, to kick off the hardening agent or something
All Dwindle decks are epoxy now? I remember they used to market something like "Stiff Glue" decks
NHS seems to be using both epoxy and cold press construction. I haven't paid attention to price differences and I've only skated Dwindle R7
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Something else that came up in the nine club w. Paul Schmitt was talking about how he worked w. PJ for months on something only have him skate some board from Canada....I'm assuming it's Control, so they're good enough for him......I think it's the flat kicks, they do that real well....
Pretty sure pj, at least at one point, was on the control boards.
An excellent example would be HiTek skateboards. Some folks don’t like the feel, and I can kinda see that, the boards skated really well for me, and when I eventually go back to skating small boards that’s what I’ll use. And yes, very flat kicks.
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The thing with the control boards that I didn't like was the pop. The shape was fine and I was pretty happy with everything but it sogged out on me almost immediately and sounded like a wet log hitting the ground. I know not everything is going to sound like a gunshot like Pennswood does but I've tried other wood that has a softer sound and feel but still has great pop (south central) and I could just never get ctrl wood off the ground that well.
To each their own though, and it definitely didn't seem to slow down the scumco beasts. It's probably not much of an issue if you're a good skater and/or have strong young legs but if you're a pathetic old mess like me it is.
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I've two of the NHS Cold/Single Pressed 'wide tip' decks in rotation; an 8.375x32.15x14.44WB with ACEs and SPFs for transition and an 8.25"x32"x14.44" for street/park.
There is a different feel to them...they feel less modern in away, a bit more solid with sort of an 80s feel to them; hard to explain...not at thin feeling as an R7, of which I'm also a fan, and certainly crispier feeling than a DLX board.
Running them through for a heat transfer seems sort against the point of a cold press tho.
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I've two of the NHS Cold/Single Pressed 'wide tip' decks in rotation; an 8.375x32.15x14.44WB with ACEs and SPFs for transition and an 8.25"x32"x14.44" for street/park.
There is a different feel to them...they feel less modern in away, a bit more solid with sort of an 80s feel to them; hard to explain...not at thin feeling as an R7, of which I'm also a fan, and certainly crispier feeling than a DLX board.
Running them through for a heat transfer seems sort against the point of a cold press tho.
Not really, a heat transfer takes like 5 seconds while heat curing is basically cooking the board. Heat transfers heat the graphic up and then use tons of pressure to apply it to the board, there's a small amount of heat transferred to the wood but its pretty negligible. Like I said think of it as putting an iron-on patch on something vs baking it. Heat transfer is the industry standard (as is cold pressing for high end boards) and 99% of whats on the market now uses it.
It's quite rare to see straight up screen printing direct onto a board because it's a lot harder to consistently make quality prints since there's so many variables... I worked in a commercial screen printing shop for years mixing ink and you can do everything exactly the same every time every time and it'll turn out different every time. And we were screening flat on printstock, deck printing uses these wild ass bent screen frames and jigs that I can only imagine must be hell to set up and maintain.
So please don't think that a heat transfer is making your board worse. Most people who do screens do it because its the old school way and it's a hands-on process that creates more individual pieces but the actual performance benefits are negligible, if any.
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I've two of the NHS Cold/Single Pressed 'wide tip' decks in rotation; an 8.375x32.15x14.44WB with ACEs and SPFs for transition and an 8.25"x32"x14.44" for street/park.
There is a different feel to them...they feel less modern in away, a bit more solid with sort of an 80s feel to them; hard to explain...not at thin feeling as an R7, of which I'm also a fan, and certainly crispier feeling than a DLX board.
Running them through for a heat transfer seems sort against the point of a cold press tho.
how is prime wood? have only owned BBS boards and dont hear much about them
Not really, a heat transfer takes like 5 seconds while heat curing is basically cooking the board. Heat transfers heat the graphic up and then use tons of pressure to apply it to the board, there's a small amount of heat transferred to the wood but its pretty negligible. Like I said think of it as putting an iron-on patch on something vs baking it. Heat transfer is the industry standard (as is cold pressing for high end boards) and 99% of whats on the market now uses it.
It's quite rare to see straight up screen printing direct onto a board because it's a lot harder to consistently make quality prints since there's so many variables... I worked in a commercial screen printing shop for years mixing ink and you can do everything exactly the same every time every time and it'll turn out different every time. And we were screening flat on printstock, deck printing uses these wild ass bent screen frames and jigs that I can only imagine must be hell to set up and maintain.
So please don't think that a heat transfer is making your board worse. Most people who do screens do it because its the old school way and it's a hands-on process that creates more individual pieces but the actual performance benefits are negligible, if any.
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I've two of the NHS Cold/Single Pressed 'wide tip' decks in rotation; an 8.375x32.15x14.44WB with ACEs and SPFs for transition and an 8.25"x32"x14.44" for street/park.
There is a different feel to them...they feel less modern in away, a bit more solid with sort of an 80s feel to them; hard to explain...not at thin feeling as an R7, of which I'm also a fan, and certainly crispier feeling than a DLX board.
Running them through for a heat transfer seems sort against the point of a cold press tho.
Interesting point, that about the 80s boards. I remember some boards having much more of a ‘sweet spot’ feedback, like the board was more alive or some shit. It could also just be that I was young and not yet as far on the way out as I am now.
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I've two of the NHS Cold/Single Pressed 'wide tip' decks in rotation; an 8.375x32.15x14.44WB with ACEs and SPFs for transition and an 8.25"x32"x14.44" for street/park.
There is a different feel to them...they feel less modern in away, a bit more solid with sort of an 80s feel to them; hard to explain...not at thin feeling as an R7, of which I'm also a fan, and certainly crispier feeling than a DLX board.
Running them through for a heat transfer seems sort against the point of a cold press tho.
How are SPFs on Skatelite? I feel like they’d be sketch as fuck.
Even F4 99as are often a bit too slick for me on it.
I really wish they made a 92-97a wheel with the F4 formula.
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The formula is purposely hard and sticky, they were designed for slippery California skateparks.
I still think they probably slip around more than you'd like them to but they work ok for me.
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SPFs are hard and sticky for slick concrete - I'd go for some 99 F4/STFs instead.
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Only a few more days till woodshop thread 2020
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Only a few more days till woodshop thread 2020
Should we talk about adding more wood shops to next year's list?
Woodchuck gets my vote. I think they did some great brands like Pure and Finesse!
https://woodchucklaminates.com tbh their website would make more sense to me if it said woodshop for sale..
How about Select? They got some hot brands over there..
Definitely should add Excel..
And why not use the full names for the woodshops?
DSM is Chop Chop + a city name. I can never remember the city but it might be the same as Excel
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Does anyone know what wood shop cafe uses?
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Does anyone know what wood is used for Powell/ Skate one (including mini logo boards)? Who makes them, what wood they use?
Not sure if you’re serious but I thought it was well known that they make them in-house. There are a few vids on YouTube with George Powell showing the factory.
Powell flight and classic decks are made in the USA, popsicles in China
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I don't want to speak on everyone's behalf....but I will....in our defence we haven't cared about skating a Powell board for 15 years regardless of the manufacturer....
Why do you think "nobody" buys powell boards? I do.
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bro it’s 2020
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Something else that came up in the nine club w. Paul Schmitt was talking about how he worked w. PJ for months on something only have him skate some board from Canada....I'm assuming it's Control, so they're good enough for him......I think it's the flat kicks, they do that real well....
I watched an interview awhile back with the guy who owns skull skates, he alluded that PJ was using their woodshop.
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Something else that came up in the nine club w. Paul Schmitt was talking about how he worked w. PJ for months on something only have him skate some board from Canada....I'm assuming it's Control, so they're good enough for him......I think it's the flat kicks, they do that real well....
I watched an interview awhile back with the guy who owns skull skates, he alluded that PJ was using their woodshop.
I’ve heard PJ skates control.
As an aside: does PJ still skate for plan b? Nb? Still a big fan.
Hi-tek makes a great boards with control wood
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My local references the 8.75” as a “K” shape (or mold?) which they’ve said is a standard popsicle. Is that clutch? The wb was crazy long from what I remember measuring in store. They also have 8-8.5” decks but also square options for the same sizes. Any ideas?
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bro it’s 2020
so what? inform me
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It's 2020, if you're not a skanky ho you're doing it wrong.
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My local references the 8.75” as a “K” shape (or mold?) which they’ve said is a standard popsicle. Is that clutch? The wb was crazy long from what I remember measuring in store. They also have 8-8.5” decks but also square options for the same sizes. Any ideas?
Could be clutch they do have a K shape. I’ve been riding the O shape in 8.5 and I love it. Check out clutches insta @clutchdistribution. Also have you asked your local? I’m sure they’d let you know.
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anyone have any current knowledge on who is doing Northern Co? Really liked Helen and wanted to support them
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anyone have any current knowledge on who is doing Northern Co? Really liked Helen and wanted to support them
South Central for sure.
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Any info on the concave/shapes?
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Any info on the concave/shapes?
In my experience the kicks were steep with a medium concave but it’s been a few years since I’ve stepped on one
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Any info on the concave/shapes?
Pretty sure they're all the standard south central concave, which is fairly steep or at least feels that way to me.
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i heard its bad juju to use to the 2020 thread