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Skateboarding => USELESS WOODEN TOY BANTER => Topic started by: Skater7052 on June 30, 2020, 03:20:40 PM
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WNKD Pro Assulted and infected local LA local.
Wtf man
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So Johan Stuckey is being cancelled for having herpes?
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Of course people are going to clog this thread with the usual, “cAnCeL cUlTuRe bAd!” spiel, but fuck this guy for real.
Knowingly giving someone a permanent std - dude is a coward.
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So Johan Stuckey is being cancelled for having herpes?
Because he lied about not having an STD to get pussy goofass.
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So Johan Stuckey is being cancelled for having herpes?
Haha, of course this dude doing exactly what I said beat me to it. Amazing.
Johan is cancelled for giving someone herpes knowingly. Not surprised you can’t see the difference there, as unsubtle as it is.
(Also, maybe consider spending less time on these boards).
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So Johan Stuckey is being cancelled for having herpes?
Haha, of course this dude doing exactly what I said beat me to it. Amazing.
Johan is cancelled for giving someone herpes knowingly. Not surprised you can’t see the difference there, as unsubtle as it is.
(Also, maybe consider spending less time on these boards).
I was clearly joking. I read the screenshots. Obviously I get the reason why he should be cancelled, it was a bad joke on my part. What he done is disgusting.
Also, fuck you.
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he so fuckin ugly im watching leprechaun 2 on wheels
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So Johan Stuckey is being cancelled for having herpes?
Because he lied about not having an STD to get pussy goofass.
I know, Jesus Christ. It was a joke you fucking bitch.
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(https://www.nativeskatestore.co.uk/images/wknd-skateboards-fuck-johan-stuckey-skate-t-shirt-white-p43249-107231_image.jpg)
Damn Jo Jo
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So Johan Stuckey is being cancelled for having herpes?
Because he lied about not having an STD to get pussy goofass.
As much goofy shit as you post it's hard to tell when you're joking or just being regular. Mostly the latter.
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I literally couldn't give a fuck that he did that.
Doesn't bother me in the slightest
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Aren’t you shaming him for his issue if anything? You wouldn’t call out someone with aids, would you?
I love when pc culture contradicts itself
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So Johan Stuckey is being cancelled for having herpes?
Because he lied about not having an STD to get pussy goofass.
As much goofy shit as you post it's hard to tell when you're joking or just being regular. Mostly the latter.
I know right?
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Somehow I'm not surprised. Like... at all.
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Aren’t you shaming him for his issue if anything? You wouldn’t call out someone with aids, would you?
I love when pc culture contradicts itself
in most states if you are aware that you have aids and you have sex with someone who doesn’t, if you decide not to tell them you have aids and they get infected by you, you face prison time. so yeah, i would definitely call them out as would most sane people. if i knowingly had coronavirus and decided to go to work anyways and cook food for old people at a nursery home, that’s kind of the same thing except everyone actually believes in aids... you should read a book or something ;)
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Just looked on Johan’s Instagram (I don’t follow him) and the trolling has begun, some guy named Isaac who I’m gonna assume is on SLAP just commented “dam bruh you got herpes” on a 4 week old IG post. Jesus fucking Christ.
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lol she got a cold sore
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lol she got a cold sore
No loling! This is not a laughing matter!!! No jokes allowed.
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If you have an active cold sore and you go down on a girl and vice versa you can give them/get genital herpes right?
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Just looked on Johan’s Instagram (I don’t follow him) and the trolling has begun, some guy named Isaac who I’m gonna assume is on SLAP just commented “dam bruh you got herpes” on a 4 week old IG post. Jesus fucking Christ.
Isaac has turned his IG account on to private since I made this post lol you got something to hide Isaac?
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Wasnt he just called out for the n word like last week?
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Just looked on Johan’s Instagram (I don’t follow him) and the trolling has begun, some guy named Isaac who I’m gonna assume is on SLAP just commented “dam bruh you got herpes” on a 4 week old IG post. Jesus fucking Christ.
No way haha
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If you have an active cold sore and you go down on a girl and vice versa you can give them/get genital herpes right?
If you don’t know the answer to this question you are not mature enough for sexy time.
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https://www.instagram.com/p/CCEuy4whyL9/?igshid=p58u74awm5z (https://www.instagram.com/p/CCEuy4whyL9/?igshid=p58u74awm5z)
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she mustve been drunk who would go with that thing
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did he give the person aids? cuz thats crazy if so. rest of it whatever. whole world is already covered in herpies and warts and corona virus. y all probably already got some nasty shit or will. its called life. wear a mask wash your hands don't be a piece of shit racist don't rape people. be kind. its not that hard.
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like imagine "canceling" someone over this
you got herpes, big friggin deal
who the hell has "consensual unprotected sex" with strangers anyway
framing this as "rape - sexual assault" is just a level of degeneracy I didn't know was possible
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The worst part about this is how the victim was made to feel like she was doing something wrong by asking and calling him out. Fuck this nerd.
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Is this that guy that looks like he is skate talk Bob’s brother? Ya he is a person.
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Another person that got fucked over.
(https://i.imgur.com/iCTf9Co.png)
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I’ve encountered this a few times in my life, and I am still at a loss as to what people are thinking.
1) this he/she said they were clean and I didn’t need a condom. That’s fucking idiotic. If I have to explain why that is idiotic you are an idiot. I’ll bet this girl can explain exactly how it actually doesn’t feel better without a condom. Especially the open sores.
2) if a woman says you don’t need to wear a condom YOU ABSOLUTELY DO HAVE TO WEAR A CONDOM. or gtfo.
I don’t mean this to shame the girl. Fuck this goofus for infecting somebody else. She does have half the blame though. I know there are zero women reading slap, but girls, make dudes cover that shit. They might be clean, but they might be dirty. Assume the worst.
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I'm pretty sure at his "roast" they burned him multiple times with comments on having stds.
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Was he on speed? He is a disgusting white horny guy. Fuck him
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Did he really believe you can’t spread it if you aren’t having an outbreak? I feel bad for his current girlfriend.
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Wow this is seriously fucked up. Not cool Johan not cool. Also I read that in California a person doesn't have to tell you if they have AIDS. I wonder if it's the same for herpes. My favorite part is she slipped in "don't forget black lives matter" at the end haha just weird.
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"trying to kids me" is the most appropriate typo I've ever seen.
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Emily has a history of making up stories.
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why you so fuckin ugly
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LOL straight people get so upset about sti's
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Only thing I don’t get about her post is the word rape being used. Clearly it wasn’t rape as she even admits it was consensual.
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Only thing I don’t get about her post is the word rape being used. Clearly it wasn’t rape as she even admits it was consensual.
i think she is saying that since she wasn't made aware of his medical condition, not having all of the facts about his medical history made it impossible for her to give consent, thus classifying it as a rape.
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LOL straight people get so upset about sti's
Is it different in lgbtqa culture? Would you say it’s more like badges of honor or trading baseball cards?
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LOL straight people get so upset about sti's
You telling me herpes is no big deal? That's disgusting dude
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Only thing I don’t get about her post is the word rape being used. Clearly it wasn’t rape as she even admits it was consensual.
i think she is saying that since she wasn't made aware of his medical condition, not having all of the facts about his medical history made it impossible for her to give consent, thus classifying it as a rape.
Ok fair enough. She also just added to her IG story that he also forced her head down to give him a BJ after already having vaginal intercourse. Definitely not cool from Johan.
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LOL straight people get so upset about sti's
You telling me herpes is no big deal? That's disgusting dude
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its literally just a temporarily occurring skin condition and 4 out of 5 people have some form of it (1/4 or more of the population has the genital version). Pretty common throughout human history, and pretty mild considering. Syphilis makes your face fall off while your brains turn to mush.
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LOL straight people get so upset about sti's
You telling me herpes is no big deal? That's disgusting dude
I'm disgusting, for sure, but heteros get so bummed out about this shit. It's like calm down, go get a shot.
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LOL straight people get so upset about sti's
Is it different in lgbtqa culture? Would you say it’s more like badges of honor or trading baseball cards?
I train STDs like they Pokemon.
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LOL straight people get so upset about sti's
Is it different in lgbtqa culture? Would you say it’s more like badges of honor or trading baseball cards?
I saw a documentary on this years ago (maybe for MTV's True Life series?) about gay men who were trying to catch hiv. I guess the term is "bugchasing".
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bugchasing
This question is for GAY: why do you think it's weird that a person would be upset over being lied to about someone's sexual history? (resulting in an unwanted permanent sti)
I don't see how that has anything to do with being straight or gay, but about the fact that someone concealed their condition in order to have sex with you. It's dishonest and scummy as hell.
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This might be my favorite thread on Slap rn. Slap is back thanks to Johan!!!!
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LOL straight people get so upset about sti's
Is it different in lgbtqa culture? Would you say it’s more like badges of honor or trading baseball cards?
I saw a documentary on this years ago (maybe for MTV's True Life series?) about gay men who were trying to catch hiv. I guess the term is "bugchasing".
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bugchasing
This question is for GAY: why do you think it's weird that a person would be upset over being lied to about someone's sexual history? (resulting in an unwanted permanent sti)
I don't see how that has anything to do with being straight or gay, but about the fact that someone concealed their condition in order to have sex with you. It's dishonest and scummy as hell.
No you're right it's fucked up. I'm just being an asshole. You gotta tell people what's up. But people also need to be proactive around their own protection. People lie constantly and YES it's a fucked up thing to do. Im HIV+ and always disclose. But herpes...my dad has herpes and he's like Ned Flanders from The Simpsons. He only fucks to procreate.
And yeah there are some fucking weirdos who try to take charged loads and they're called bug chasers. I've had dudes ask me if I'll fuck em without a condom to try to transmit and I'm just like, "dude you need therapy." It's bizarre.
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Imagine taking a charged load from Gay
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Emily has a history of making up stories.
well those screen shots of their conversation doesn't lie
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Imagine taking a charged load from Gay
This isn't the Google, it's a message board.
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Damn..... it must be sick to live in LA. That chick Emily is so far out of Johan's league it's not funny. I'd let that girl give me fuckin AIDS. Ya'll see those pole dancing video's on her page? Bless her for keeping her IG public.
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He gave me herpes too! It was him or Sinner.
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so basically, all skaters are rapists... and charged loads? thats what i got so far
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didn't bother reading the whole thing but her argument would be a lot stronger if she didn't have a pole dancing video and naked photos of herself on her instagram...like yeah I'm not a whore I just act and (un)dress like one...I don't want people to sexualize me but I'll do it to myself on my instagram...OH MY GOD A GUY REALLY WANTED TO HAVE SEX WITH ME AND LIED TO GET SEX, I CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE HOW A GUY COULD POSSIBLY THINK THIS WAY ABOUT ME, AFTER HE FOLLOWED ME ON INSTAGRAM WHERE I HAVE POSTED THINGS DELIBERATELY TO MAKE MEN HORNY, surprised pikachu.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7QNw1LRJv4
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Damn..... it must be sick to live in LA. That chick Emily is so far out of Johan's league it's not funny. I'd let that girl give me fuckin AIDS. Ya'll see those pole dancing video's on her page? Bless her for keeping her IG public.
for fucking real man.
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didn't bother reading the whole thing but her argument would be a lot stronger if she didn't have a pole dancing video and naked photos of herself on her instagram...like yeah I'm not a whore I just act and (un)dress like one...I don't want people to sexualize me but I'll do it to myself on my instagram...OH MY GOD A GUY REALLY WANTED TO HAVE SEX WITH ME AND LIED TO GET SEX, I CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE HOW A GUY COULD POSSIBLY THINK THIS WAY ABOUT ME, AFTER HE FOLLOWED ME ON INSTAGRAM WHERE I HAVE POSTED THINGS DELIBERATELY TO MAKE MEN HORNY, surprised pikachu.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7QNw1LRJv4
You're not very good at reading.
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didn't bother reading the whole thing but her argument would be a lot stronger if she didn't have a pole dancing video and naked photos of herself on her instagram...like yeah I'm not a whore I just act and (un)dress like one...I don't want people to sexualize me but I'll do it to myself on my instagram...OH MY GOD A GUY REALLY WANTED TO HAVE SEX WITH ME AND LIED TO GET SEX, I CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE HOW A GUY COULD POSSIBLY THINK THIS WAY ABOUT ME, AFTER HE FOLLOWED ME ON INSTAGRAM WHERE I HAVE POSTED THINGS DELIBERATELY TO MAKE MEN HORNY, surprised pikachu.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7QNw1LRJv4
You're not very good at reading.
sorry what does your post say?
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This just in. Cops like Beef have been ok giving hepres to people. As the young ones say. Fax.
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Rip n dip on the wknd baby..
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She's not fucking doing that again that was SKETCHY.
Why, Johan?
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didn't bother reading the whole thing but her argument would be a lot stronger if she didn't have a pole dancing video and naked photos of herself on her instagram...like yeah I'm not a whore I just act and (un)dress like one...I don't want people to sexualize me but I'll do it to myself on my instagram...OH MY GOD A GUY REALLY WANTED TO HAVE SEX WITH ME AND LIED TO GET SEX, I CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE HOW A GUY COULD POSSIBLY THINK THIS WAY ABOUT ME, AFTER HE FOLLOWED ME ON INSTAGRAM WHERE I HAVE POSTED THINGS DELIBERATELY TO MAKE MEN HORNY, surprised pikachu.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7QNw1LRJv4
I dunno guys I'm starting to think maybe there is a consent problem in skateboarding
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LOL straight people get so upset about sti's
Is it different in lgbtqa culture? Would you say it’s more like badges of honor or trading baseball cards?
Don’t bother with this man he is the slap token gay guy.
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Pretty easy to spot the people with herpes in this thread. Cover up, dummies. It’s not that fucking difficult.
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Condoms are for fools, you catch Sti’s into your ballsack. Gotta keep your balls in your boxers and you won’t catch shit.
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Condoms are for fools, you catch Sti’s into your ballsack. Gotta keep your balls in your boxers and you won’t catch shit.
Brian wenning?
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He definitely deserves to be put on blast for being an asshole.
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damn what a fucking mess.
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herpes are a gift that keep on giving, but also bad jo jo
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didn't bother reading the whole thing but her argument would be a lot stronger if she didn't have a pole dancing video and naked photos of herself on her instagram...like yeah I'm not a whore I just act and (un)dress like one...I don't want people to sexualize me but I'll do it to myself on my instagram...OH MY GOD A GUY REALLY WANTED TO HAVE SEX WITH ME AND LIED TO GET SEX, I CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE HOW A GUY COULD POSSIBLY THINK THIS WAY ABOUT ME, AFTER HE FOLLOWED ME ON INSTAGRAM WHERE I HAVE POSTED THINGS DELIBERATELY TO MAKE MEN HORNY, surprised pikachu.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7QNw1LRJv4
You're not very good at life
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woody allen lookin fuck
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Emily has a history of making up stories.
well those screen shots of their conversation doesn't lie
Yeah not only does he admit it in the text screenshots, but a 2nd girl has come forward backing Emily up that she has also witnessed/experienced similar behavior from Johan.
Really messed up. Not only did he lie about it at the time, but even weeks later (after he had time to reflect on his actions) he still continued to lie about it. This on top of that video of him saying "n----r" makes me wonder if he is part of the reason (or THE reason) everyone is leaving WKND.
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I’ve encountered this a few times in my life, and I am still at a loss as to what people are thinking.
1) this he/she said they were clean and I didn’t need a condom. That’s fucking idiotic. If I have to explain why that is idiotic you are an idiot. I’ll bet this girl can explain exactly how it actually doesn’t feel better without a condom. Especially the open sores.
2) if a woman says you don’t need to wear a condom YOU ABSOLUTELY DO HAVE TO WEAR A CONDOM. or gtfo.
I don’t mean this to shame the girl. Fuck this goofus for infecting somebody else. She does have half the blame though. I know there are zero women reading slap, but girls, make dudes cover that shit. They might be clean, but they might be dirty. Assume the worst.
She doesn’t have half the blame. Most likely none of us men know what it’s like to be a female and feel powerless while in closed quarters with a man and the fear they have of what he might do if they say no. She messed up by going home with him but still that doesn’t equal 50% of the blame.
Knowingly giving someone an std that will stay with them for life should be a criminal offense.
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I’ve encountered this a few times in my life, and I am still at a loss as to what people are thinking.
1) this he/she said they were clean and I didn’t need a condom. That’s fucking idiotic. If I have to explain why that is idiotic you are an idiot. I’ll bet this girl can explain exactly how it actually doesn’t feel better without a condom. Especially the open sores.
2) if a woman says you don’t need to wear a condom YOU ABSOLUTELY DO HAVE TO WEAR A CONDOM. or gtfo.
I don’t mean this to shame the girl. Fuck this goofus for infecting somebody else. She does have half the blame though. I know there are zero women reading slap, but girls, make dudes cover that shit. They might be clean, but they might be dirty. Assume the worst.
Knowingly giving someone an std that will stay with them for life should be a criminal offense.
I'm pretty sure there is such things as Uber and Taxi's. They weren't friends, she knew what she was getting into. Sounds like her boyfriend found out she gave him the Herp and is now back peddling. Johan is still to blame here as well if he truly knew he had an STD. "You know how they say don't drink and drive.... well.....don't drink and bone!!!".
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I’ve encountered this a few times in my life, and I am still at a loss as to what people are thinking.
1) this he/she said they were clean and I didn’t need a condom. That’s fucking idiotic. If I have to explain why that is idiotic you are an idiot. I’ll bet this girl can explain exactly how it actually doesn’t feel better without a condom. Especially the open sores.
2) if a woman says you don’t need to wear a condom YOU ABSOLUTELY DO HAVE TO WEAR A CONDOM. or gtfo.
I don’t mean this to shame the girl. Fuck this goofus for infecting somebody else. She does have half the blame though. I know there are zero women reading slap, but girls, make dudes cover that shit. They might be clean, but they might be dirty. Assume the worst.
Knowingly giving someone an std that will stay with them for life should be a criminal offense.
While Johan is a bitch for this one she knew the score too she's a grown woman.
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I’ve encountered this a few times in my life, and I am still at a loss as to what people are thinking.
1) this he/she said they were clean and I didn’t need a condom. That’s fucking idiotic. If I have to explain why that is idiotic you are an idiot. I’ll bet this girl can explain exactly how it actually doesn’t feel better without a condom. Especially the open sores.
2) if a woman says you don’t need to wear a condom YOU ABSOLUTELY DO HAVE TO WEAR A CONDOM. or gtfo.
I don’t mean this to shame the girl. Fuck this goofus for infecting somebody else. She does have half the blame though. I know there are zero women reading slap, but girls, make dudes cover that shit. They might be clean, but they might be dirty. Assume the worst.
Knowingly giving someone an std that will stay with them for life should be a criminal offense.
I'm pretty sure there is such things as Uber and Taxi's. They weren't friends, she knew what she was getting into. Sounds like her boyfriend found out she gave him the Herp and is now back peddling. Johan is still to blame here as well if he truly knew he had an STD. "You know how they say don't drink and drive.... well.....don't drink and bone!!!".
I am just seeing the sexual assault(the physical assault, not the assault of lying and passing a disease) allegations. And I am horrified at myself for not being clear. She deserves zero blame for any sexual assault. She does deserve blame if her method of safe sex is an ocular pat down. “He/she said he/she was clean” is moronic and risky. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
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So is this why people are slowly starting to leave WKND?
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Ya, this sucks man.
I wish it were more shocking that this happened, to be honest.
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Emily has a history of making up stories.
well those screen shots of their conversation doesn't lie
Yeah not only does he admit it in the text screenshots, but a 2nd girl has come forward backing Emily up that she has also witnessed/experienced similar behavior from Johan.
Really messed up. Not only did he lie about it at the time, but even weeks later (after he had time to reflect on his actions) he still continued to lie about it. This on top of that video of him saying "n----r" makes me wonder if he is part of the reason (or THE reason) everyone is leaving WKND.
Is it Jonah Hello,
I would like to deeply and whole heartedly apologize for the offensive, racist, disgusting and absolutely insensitive words I used . I am completely disgusted with myself for saying those word idiotically years ago. I did not realize the severity of saying them, even when using it out of context in a stupid joke. I realize there are many layers to racism and I am completely ashamed those words ever came from my mouth. I wish I could undo what I said but I can't. So I will continue to listen, learn and do anything I can to do better and better understand racism. I want to learn from my past mistakes. I believe so deeply in the black lives matter movement, and I want to use my past error of judgement as a learning experience and, to fight for this movement. I do not condone or support any kind of racism whatsoever and it makes me sick knowing I’ve offended anyone. I am not that type of person. I deeply apologize for my idiotic behavior.
-Johan
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What a horrible thing to do to someone.
Obviously, we all need to protect ourselves from any possible infection and from spreading an infection to someone else, but only a piece of shit would lie about having a disease in order to have condomless sex with someone. We all need to be careful, but it's not like we've all played it 100% safe all the time.
I mean has anyone ever actually used protection when going down on a chick? I mean Michael Douglass got throat cancer from Catherine Zeta Jones's STD, right? (Is this just a rumor?)
However, I'm curious about the notion of rape culture in skateboarding. I don't think we are anywhere on the level of baseball, basketball, football, or hockey players, which have a much higher likelihood than other athletes to be pieces of shit. I don't think we have that same bro-brah frat boy roofie mentality, do we?
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Somehow not surprised he needed to lie to get laid, let alone about STD’s??? Dude has the most incel looking punchable face of all time
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Anybody remember the Jojos they used to have at Wawa's? One night, my friend got super hammered and ate a couple of bags to himself. Later, he could be heard muttering "No Mo Jojos" as he hurled up the contents of his stomach. I like to think those words were meant to echo through time, for just this very occasion.
Also, I'm pretty sure I got Covid19 from eating pussy so maybe TheLurper has some kinda point.
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I believe the Bug chaser doc is called “The Gift”
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What a horrible thing to do to someone.
Obviously, we all need to protect ourselves from any possible infection and from spreading an infection to someone else, but only a piece of shit would lie about having a disease in order to have condomless sex with someone. We all need to be careful, but it's not like we've all played it 100% safe all the time.
I mean has anyone ever actually used protection when going down on a chick? I mean Michael Douglass got throat cancer from Catherine Zeta Jones's STD, right? (Is this just a rumor?)
However, I'm curious about the notion of rape culture in skateboarding. I don't think we are anywhere on the level of baseball, basketball, football, or hockey players, which have a much higher likelihood than other athletes to be pieces of shit. I don't think we have that same bro-brah frat boy roofie mentality, do we?
I have been very strict about using condoms in non-monogamous, (untested) encounters. I have been enveloped prior to putting on the raincoat and had to tell her to back the train up because all were not aboard. One or two were offended. Tough beans.
A) I don’t know she really took her pill and B) she was willing to let me stick it in her, so there’s no telling what other mouth breathers have been running round in there.
I’d be willing to bet the percentage of “skateboarder” rapists falls pretty close to the average in society. Give or take 1% are scumbags at best.
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Always wear protection. Blows my mind how many people just meet someone and start fucking.
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I know I've shared this before in here but it was a while ago so I'll drop it again because it's hilarious:
My best pal spent 5 years in Terminal Island Prison and in there if you were HIV+ they called you Batman Forever.
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c'mon dude
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What a horrible thing to do to someone.
Obviously, we all need to protect ourselves from any possible infection and from spreading an infection to someone else, but only a piece of shit would lie about having a disease in order to have condomless sex with someone. We all need to be careful, but it's not like we've all played it 100% safe all the time.
I mean has anyone ever actually used protection when going down on a chick? I mean Michael Douglass got throat cancer from Catherine Zeta Jones's STD, right? (Is this just a rumor?)
However, I'm curious about the notion of rape culture in skateboarding. I don't think we are anywhere on the level of baseball, basketball, football, or hockey players, which have a much higher likelihood than other athletes to be pieces of shit. I don't think we have that same bro-brah frat boy roofie mentality, do we?
I hate to say it, but skateboarders probably aren’t all that different than the types of athletes you mentioned. Did you listen to Josh Wilson on The Bunt? You could extract the audio of him talking about trying to have a shared sexual experience with Justin Henry and a random girl at a bar (which he referred to as “team bonding”) and play it for a stranger on the street, and odds are they would assume he’s a college lacrosse player or a swimmer.
Obviously this is just one example, but in the end I would safely assume that the % of bad apples in skateboarding is not far off from other sports/subcultures (music scene, actors, etc).
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If you have an active cold sore and you go down on a girl and vice versa you can give them/get genital herpes right?
No
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Don't forget the similar shit that is popping of in the GX1000 thread on the front page. Special people with broken moral compasses are frequently bad at being clear when it comes to explicit consent. "When you're a celebrity, they let you do it." Why would skating be an exception?
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woody allen and napoleon retardmite fucked that llama and johan shtuckey slid out 9 months later
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So, for clarity's sake, are we talking about HSV1 or HSV2?
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What a horrible thing to do to someone.
Obviously, we all need to protect ourselves from any possible infection and from spreading an infection to someone else, but only a piece of shit would lie about having a disease in order to have condomless sex with someone. We all need to be careful, but it's not like we've all played it 100% safe all the time.
I mean has anyone ever actually used protection when going down on a chick? I mean Michael Douglass got throat cancer from Catherine Zeta Jones's STD, right? (Is this just a rumor?)
However, I'm curious about the notion of rape culture in skateboarding. I don't think we are anywhere on the level of baseball, basketball, football, or hockey players, which have a much higher likelihood than other athletes to be pieces of shit. I don't think we have that same bro-brah frat boy roofie mentality, do we?
I hate to say it, but skateboarders probably aren’t all that different than the types of athletes you mentioned. Did you listen to Josh Wilson on The Bunt? You could extract the audio of him talking about trying to have a shared sexual experience with Justin Henry and a random girl at a bar (which he referred to as “team bonding”) and play it for a stranger on the street, and odds are they would assume he’s a college lacrosse player or a swimmer.
Obviously this is just one example, but in the end I would safely assume that the % of bad apples in skateboarding is not far off from other sports/subcultures (music scene, actors, etc).
She wanted to fuck both of them
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didn't bother reading the whole thing but her argument would be a lot stronger if she didn't have a pole dancing video and naked photos of herself on her instagram...like yeah I'm not a whore I just act and (un)dress like one...I don't want people to sexualize me but I'll do it to myself on my instagram...OH MY GOD A GUY REALLY WANTED TO HAVE SEX WITH ME AND LIED TO GET SEX, I CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE HOW A GUY COULD POSSIBLY THINK THIS WAY ABOUT ME, AFTER HE FOLLOWED ME ON INSTAGRAM WHERE I HAVE POSTED THINGS DELIBERATELY TO MAKE MEN HORNY, surprised pikachu.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7QNw1LRJv4
are you 10 years old
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So, for clarity's sake, are we talking about HSV1 or HSV2?
whatever is uglier and wears telescopes fam that 1
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Anybody remember the Jojos they used to have at Wawa's? One night, my friend got super hammered and ate a couple of bags to himself. Later, he could be heard muttering "No Mo Jojos" as he hurled up the contents of his stomach. I like to think those words were meant to echo through time, for just this very occasion.
Also, I'm pretty sure I got Covid19 from eating pussy so maybe TheLurper has some kinda point.
Pfft you can’t get COVID from eating pussy, dummy. You get throat cancer
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Not for nuthin’ fellas, at least we all know to steer clear of Johan’s disease cannon of a wiener now. I was just about to book my vacation to Stuckeyton before I got wind of this. Phew! Thank goodness for small blessings.
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What a horrible thing to do to someone.
Obviously, we all need to protect ourselves from any possible infection and from spreading an infection to someone else, but only a piece of shit would lie about having a disease in order to have condomless sex with someone. We all need to be careful, but it's not like we've all played it 100% safe all the time.
I mean has anyone ever actually used protection when going down on a chick? I mean Michael Douglass got throat cancer from Catherine Zeta Jones's STD, right? (Is this just a rumor?)
However, I'm curious about the notion of rape culture in skateboarding. I don't think we are anywhere on the level of baseball, basketball, football, or hockey players, which have a much higher likelihood than other athletes to be pieces of shit. I don't think we have that same bro-brah frat boy roofie mentality, do we?
I hate to say it, but skateboarders probably aren’t all that different than the types of athletes you mentioned. Did you listen to Josh Wilson on The Bunt? You could extract the audio of him talking about trying to have a shared sexual experience with Justin Henry and a random girl at a bar (which he referred to as “team bonding”) and play it for a stranger on the street, and odds are they would assume he’s a college lacrosse player or a swimmer.
Obviously this is just one example, but in the end I would safely assume that the % of bad apples in skateboarding is not far off from other sports/subcultures (music scene, actors, etc).
I don't know shit about the jock subcultures, but I have to think that skateboarding is every bit as bad, if not worse. At every single skatepark there are always dudes hanging around and picking up on way too young high school girls. Major creep shit.
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Just looked on Johan’s Instagram (I don’t follow him) and the trolling has begun, some guy named Isaac who I’m gonna assume is on SLAP just commented “dam bruh you got herpes” on a 4 week old IG post. Jesus fucking Christ.
A secret stash of Herpes
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They should’ve kept it up and said “he didn’t deny he had the supposed STDs, so that was his disclosure” case closed.
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This just in. Cops like Beef hae been ok giving hepres to people. As the young ones say. Fax.
What’s hepres? Is that what your mom has?
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Always wear protection. Blows my mind how many people just meet someone and start fucking.
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He has done this to MANY girls......all got them infected.......
WKND joked about this in the roast, which they have now taken down..........
That’s fucked up. It’s even more fucked up that WKND have joked about it, yeah going around knowingly infecting multiple women is hilarious. Scumbags. #CancelWKND
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Hsv2 can increase women's chances of developing cervical cancer later in life. Would refrain from calling it "just herpes"...
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LOL straight people get so upset about sti's
Like the Subarus? They seem fun to drive.
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LOL straight people get so upset about sti's
Like the Subarus? They seem fun to drive.
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What a horrible thing to do to someone.
Obviously, we all need to protect ourselves from any possible infection and from spreading an infection to someone else, but only a piece of shit would lie about having a disease in order to have condomless sex with someone. We all need to be careful, but it's not like we've all played it 100% safe all the time.
I mean has anyone ever actually used protection when going down on a chick? I mean Michael Douglass got throat cancer from Catherine Zeta Jones's STD, right? (Is this just a rumor?)
However, I'm curious about the notion of rape culture in skateboarding. I don't think we are anywhere on the level of baseball, basketball, football, or hockey players, which have a much higher likelihood than other athletes to be pieces of shit. I don't think we have that same bro-brah frat boy roofie mentality, do we?
I hate to say it, but skateboarders probably aren’t all that different than the types of athletes you mentioned. Did you listen to Josh Wilson on The Bunt? You could extract the audio of him talking about trying to have a shared sexual experience with Justin Henry and a random girl at a bar (which he referred to as “team bonding”) and play it for a stranger on the street, and odds are they would assume he’s a college lacrosse player or a swimmer.
Obviously this is just one example, but in the end I would safely assume that the % of bad apples in skateboarding is not far off from other sports/subcultures (music scene, actors, etc).
You got that Josh Wilson story all out of context. The woman in the story wanted to have sex with them first, not the other way around.
Stop taking agency away from women. Women like to have sex too, and you know what it’s okay. Also, if you’ll remember Justin Henry was weirded out about having a threesome, but the women in the story wanted it so bad and was upset about Justin not coming back with Josh and her.
Hence, Josh Wilson was mainly joking around that it was funny that a woman they met wanted to have a threesome with Justin and him... but Justin got scared.
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Hog warts
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Getting herpes is a sad frustrating thing to happen to a young attractive sexually active person. Doctors don’t give you a class to take on managing the mental fuckery that goes on when your diagnosed with an STD and how to deal with it in relation to a sexual partner . You’re told you got it, handed some pamphlets and given a prescription . Especially if your young I can understand it would be hard to navigate through your post herpes life without making mistakes . Its fucking embarrassing! Although it shouldn’t be . It’s sucks that the result can be more spread , but hey if everybody’s got it then who cares . Part of the problem here is the stigma of herpes and people with it being scared to be honest about it .. On the other hand they should just get it their shit together and keep away. I’m speaking from experiences I’ve had with friends contracting it. I also thought I had it for a week but it turned out to be jock itch so I half feel the pain. As far as I’m concerned if you agree to have consensual unprotected sex with a stranger you’re asking for it . All you little board babies could learn a thing or two from this .
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What a horrible thing to do to someone.
Obviously, we all need to protect ourselves from any possible infection and from spreading an infection to someone else, but only a piece of shit would lie about having a disease in order to have condomless sex with someone. We all need to be careful, but it's not like we've all played it 100% safe all the time.
I mean has anyone ever actually used protection when going down on a chick? I mean Michael Douglass got throat cancer from Catherine Zeta Jones's STD, right? (Is this just a rumor?)
However, I'm curious about the notion of rape culture in skateboarding. I don't think we are anywhere on the level of baseball, basketball, football, or hockey players, which have a much higher likelihood than other athletes to be pieces of shit. I don't think we have that same bro-brah frat boy roofie mentality, do we?
I hate to say it, but skateboarders probably aren’t all that different than the types of athletes you mentioned. Did you listen to Josh Wilson on The Bunt? You could extract the audio of him talking about trying to have a shared sexual experience with Justin Henry and a random girl at a bar (which he referred to as “team bonding”) and play it for a stranger on the street, and odds are they would assume he’s a college lacrosse player or a swimmer.
Obviously this is just one example, but in the end I would safely assume that the % of bad apples in skateboarding is not far off from other sports/subcultures (music scene, actors, etc).
You got that Josh Wilson story all out of context. The woman in the story wanted to have sex with them first, not the other way around.
Stop taking agency away from women. Women like to have sex too, and you know what it’s okay. Also, if you’ll remember Justin Henry was weirded out about having a threesome, but the women in the story wanted it so bad and was upset about Justin not coming back with Josh and her.
Hence, Josh Wilson was mainly joking around that it was funny that a woman they met wanted to have a threesome with Justin and him... but Justin got scared.
No dude. Die all cis gendered hetero scum
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Getting herpes is a sad frustrating thing to happen to a young attractive sexually active person. Doctors don’t give you a class to take on managing the mental fuckery that goes on when your diagnosed with an STD and how to deal with it in relation to a sexual partner . You’re told you got it, handed some pamphlets and given a prescription . Especially if your young I can understand it would be hard to navigate through your post herpes life without making mistakes . Its fucking embarrassing! Although it shouldn’t be . It’s sucks that the result can be more spread , but hey if everybody’s got it then who cares . Part of the problem here is the stigma of herpes and people with it being scared to be honest about it .. On the other hand they should just get it their shit together and keep away. I’m speaking from experiences I’ve had with friends contracting it. I also thought I had it for a week but it turned out to be jock itch so I half feel the pain. As far as I’m concerned if you agree to have consensual unprotected sex with a stranger you’re asking for it . All you little board babies could learn a thing or two from this .
I love seeing that there's still some people with common sense out there.
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Emily was SILENCED over a year ago when she first came out against Johan.......
When Johan Stuckey was meant to have a premiere for his video, she came out AGAINST him and notified the venue......
They cancelled the premiere and had it in another venue instead. WKND bullied her into retracting what she said and silenced her.....
For what? A skate video?
If you support WKND and Johan Stuckey after this, you're part of the problem.
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Emily was SILENCED over a year ago when she first came out against Johan.......
When Johan Stuckey was meant to have a premiere for his video, she came out AGAINST him and notified the venue......
They cancelled the premiere and had it in another venue instead. WKND bullied her into retracting what she said and silenced her.....
For what? A skate video?
If you support WKND and Johan Stuckey after this, you're part of the problem.
Comes out and says this then focuses. Fucking coward. Not saying he's lying but come on and say everything else.
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Anyone see the Pizza ad in the new Thrasher?
Can we just blow up both brands and go home?
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Anyone see the Pizza ad in the new Thrasher?
Can we just blow up both brands and go home?
Pizza sucks so I'm intrigued. Can you show us?
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Can we just blow up both brands and go home?
Pizza sucks so I'm intrigued. Can you show us?
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Damn. So they're asking people to call out their resident rapist by mail? I hope they get the replies they're looking for.
Also Johan is just gross. I had a friend who exclusively skated wknd and quasi, dressed like them, tried to come across as unique and artistic. Turns out the dudes main hobby in life outside of skating was trying to pick up girls at bars and clubs. I get that everyone needs a sex life but it's starting to seem like that whole subsection of skating is just full of shit. At least the energy drink dudes don't hide behind a fake image.
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As far as I’m concerned if you agree to have consensual unprotected sex with a stranger you’re asking for it . All you little board babies could learn a thing or two from this .
Sorry I wanted to address this real quick by your logic- she shows the text message that she asked him to wrap up and he said no, and then asked him if he has herpes and he denied it twice (!) and even played dumb and asked if he should get tested when he was already taking medicine. I dont know exactly where this falls in the category of “consensual” but thats kinda fucked up. And anyone that twists it to be like “oh you know what man thats fucked up thats just life” can hopefully see how this can damage some people in LA (that wknd roast jokingly implied hes giving more std to girls than board sponsors) that could have been hurt by Johan and been lied to unfairly for a relatively long time
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According to his IG he’s had a girlfriend for the last 2 years, she must be ok with having herpes.
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https://youtu.be/Or4RANuq2sE (https://youtu.be/Or4RANuq2sE)
She
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Two adults hooking up regardless of disclosure for their own business should be taken as mutual fuckups.
To say the women was not consenting is bs, anyone who knows LA and the amount of fucked up people that live there 9x outta 10 at least someone has something I don't give a shit especially if it's a skater that knowingly got called out in his roast. Hey it's pretty obvious dude's a walking STD you took a bite and went back for seconds regardless of the texts it's both people's fault.
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Aren’t you shaming him for his issue if anything? You wouldn’t call out someone with aids, would you?
I love when pc culture contradicts itself
This is the fucking worst logic I've ever seen. Only read the first page though maybe it gets worse
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https://www.instagram.com/p/CAI9YYXh0qT/?igshid=1gu73tyz1i96e
I think that was switch.
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Snuggle Bandit is Johan's favorite skater. Comfirmed
He read that Big Brother interview and got inspired
Jay just out of Hawaii prison, and I think he’s in like the work-release-type program I’m in, and I just talked to him the other day, and he’s got two years clean, and if I’m going to listen to anyone, I would be him. Because I ran with him on the streets of Santa Cruz when he came here, and we fucking destroyed this town and punished people and ran over old ladies and gave my herpes to every girl I could. I will never get my herpes taken care of, I will have them forever. I love herpes because when they flare, it’s on like Donkey Kong.
Johan whispered in her ear fully engorged, "it's on like Donkey Kong baby"
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Maybe before you blow everyone in LA as a instathot do yourself a favor and do research on who you're going to fuck next!!!!!
The brainlessness of these prostithots are ridiculously stupid! You knew he was a skater you looked him up? If you're still going through with fucking him then you deserved it.
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I literally couldn't give a fuck that he did that.
Doesn't bother me in the slightest
Damn ice cold! I hope this happens to your daughter!
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Jay just out of Hawaii prison, and I think he’s in like the work-release-type program I’m in, and I just talked to him the other day, and he’s got two years clean, and if I’m going to listen to anyone, I would be him. Because I ran with him on the streets of Santa Cruz when he came here, and we fucking destroyed this town and punished people and ran over old ladies and gave my herpes to every girl I could. I will never get my herpes taken care of, I will have them forever. I love herpes because when they flare, it’s on like Donkey Kong.
Johan whispered in her ear fully engorged, "it's on like Donkey Kong baby"
Dirtbag P on herpes confirmed.
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The brainlessness of these prostithots are ridiculously stupid! You knew he was a skater you looked him up? If you're still going through with fucking him then you deserved it.
What a shitty take. "He was a skater and she knew it there for she deserved it." What does that even imply?
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Emily goes public with her story to bring awareness to young women who are sexually active in LA, but in return gets 5 pages of middle aged men debating consent and whether or not to wrap it up on a message board.
Also with how much shit has came out in the past month about Floridians causing mud in California I’m surprised no one has tried to cancel Florida yet.
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had to create an account to confirm most of what has been said IS true. details left out obviously on both sides but the accuracy of the claims are spot on. i don't fuck with what yall consider to be "cancel culture". callous and idiotic ppl learn nothing from being shunned. having said that, johan is an absolute fucking bully in the van... most insecure asshole i've met. if enough people know these things, it's certainly fuel for him to change/improve.
there's more to unearth though. someone could look into the gofundme that johan did for his "dogs surgery"
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Two adults hooking up regardless of disclosure for their own business should be taken as mutual fuckups.
To say the women was not consenting is bs, anyone who knows LA and the amount of fucked up people that live there 9x outta 10 at least someone has something I don't give a shit especially if it's a skater that knowingly got called out in his roast. Hey it's pretty obvious dude's a walking STD you took a bite and went back for seconds regardless of the texts it's both people's fault.
One adult wouldn't consent if they weren't lied to about herpes. Fucking herpes. As in genital warts. You might have an extra chromosome?
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The brainlessness of these prostithots are ridiculously stupid! You knew he was a skater you looked him up? If you're still going through with fucking him then you deserved it.
If you're going to creep on each other's Instagram and meet up. Beforehand if you give a shit about yourself you'd at least do a fair amount of research to cover your bases. maybe that's just me, the evidence is out there.
I hate this try now and cry wolf victimhood mentality seems as though the brains that some people were born with is there but they just ignore it.
As someone else said if you're dumb enough to believe his goofy ass you were the sucker, get over it and get a treatment like anyone else.
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The brainlessness of these prostithots are ridiculously stupid! You knew he was a skater you looked him up? If you're still going through with fucking him then you deserved it.
I hate this try now and cry wolf victimhood mentality seems as though the brains that some people were born with is there but they just ignore it.
As someone else said if you're dumb enough to believe his goofy ass you were the sucker, get over it and get a treatment like anyone else.
you're so fucking inept. have you never been deceived not once in your life? have you ever been lied to? what the fuck kind of research do you imagine her doing? DMing women he knows to check the status of their STD's? jesus christ
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damn now I wanna know what's up with that dog surgery gofundme! spill it
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damn now I wanna know what's up with that dog surgery gofundme! spill it
i sent him $$ and a year later found out that the dog did not need surgery. wasn't disclosed to anyone. so i basically gave $40 to enable this idiot.
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damn now I wanna know what's up with that dog surgery gofundme! spill it
i sent him $$ and a year later found out that the dog did not need surgery. wasn't disclosed to anyone. so i basically gave $40 to enable this idiot.
anyone know what the total raised amount was?
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The brainlessness of these prostithots are ridiculously stupid! You knew he was a skater you looked him up? If you're still going through with fucking him then you deserved it.
I hate this try now and cry wolf victimhood mentality seems as though the brains that some people were born with is there but they just ignore it.
As someone else said if you're dumb enough to believe his goofy ass you were the sucker, get over it and get a treatment like anyone else.
you're so fucking inept. have you never been deceived not once in your life? have you ever been lied to? what the fuck kind of research do you imagine her doing? DMing women he knows to check the status of their STD's? jesus christ
Yeah we've all been lied to it's how we handle the aftermath, take it as a loss and move on.
Yes if you think dude's sketch but you hooked up with him. I'd think if you were anyone who had somewhat intelligence you'd ask around and especially his past partners, that's how you get reliable sources.
I'm from a small town in Mississippi and the few people that are involved with punk/skating you're going to ask around if someone's sketchy.
If you don't then the fault is both people. Conversations aren't one sided same as hooking up.
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damn now I wanna know what's up with that dog surgery gofundme! spill it
i sent him $$ and a year later found out that the dog did not need surgery. wasn't disclosed to anyone. so i basically gave $40 to enable this idiot.
https://www.gofundme.com/f/diagnostics-for-mazzy
$3600
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damn now I wanna know what's up with that dog surgery gofundme! spill it
i sent him $$ and a year later found out that the dog did not need surgery. wasn't disclosed to anyone. so i basically gave $40 to enable this idiot.
He pretended his dog was sick and used the money for dog drugs
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damn now I wanna know what's up with that dog surgery gofundme! spill it
i sent him $$ and a year later found out that the dog did not need surgery. wasn't disclosed to anyone. so i basically gave $40 to enable this idiot.
It's called dream chasin', mane
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damn now I wanna know what's up with that dog surgery gofundme! spill it
i sent him $$ and a year later found out that the dog did not need surgery. wasn't disclosed to anyone. so i basically gave $40 to enable this idiot.
Sounds like you're the idiot. He's a piece of shit but you're the idiot for sending him dough.
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damn now I wanna know what's up with that dog surgery gofundme! spill it
i sent him $$ and a year later found out that the dog did not need surgery. wasn't disclosed to anyone. so i basically gave $40 to enable this idiot.
Sounds like you're the idiot. He's a piece of shit but you're the idiot for sending him dough.
i have an idea.. a concept rather. two people engaging in an interaction are BOTH stupid.
how does that stroke ya
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Idk how this is even considered *rape* sounds more of a buyers remorse after you find out your snake oil is just plain old water.
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damn now I wanna know what's up with that dog surgery gofundme! spill it
i sent him $$ and a year later found out that the dog did not need surgery. wasn't disclosed to anyone. so i basically gave $40 to enable this idiot.
Sounds like you're the idiot. He's a piece of shit but you're the idiot for sending him dough.
i have an idea.. a concept rather. two people engaging in an interaction are BOTH stupid.
how does that stroke ya
Watch it y’all might get herpes, and get cancelled.
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Damn. So they're asking people to call out their resident rapist by mail? I hope they get the replies they're looking for.
Also Johan is just gross. I had a friend who exclusively skated wknd and quasi, dressed like them, tried to come across as unique and artistic. Turns out the dudes main hobby in life outside of skating was trying to pick up girls at bars and clubs. I get that everyone needs a sex life but it's starting to seem like that whole subsection of skating is just full of shit. At least the energy drink dudes don't hide behind a fake image.
As much as i dislike many of the energy drink guys, you make a really really good point. They might seem jocky or whatever but they are definitely winning and dont pretend.
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is PalsQuestions working on a WKND episode or something? or are you trolling?
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damn now I wanna know what's up with that dog surgery gofundme! spill it
i sent him $$ and a year later found out that the dog did not need surgery. wasn't disclosed to anyone. so i basically gave $40 to enable this idiot.
https://www.gofundme.com/f/diagnostics-for-mazzy
$3600
Was any of this money spent on the treatment of the dog?
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Just gonna chime in slightly.
If you think Johan is being shamed for having a disease, you are confused and mistaken. He straight up lied about his disease and gave it to someone else. She is not partially responsible. People are allowed to have sex without condoms. I think she should have thought twice about letting Johan in. The fact that you could be that stupid, selfish and ignorant to knowingly have sex with someone while you have a fucking disease like that, is repulsive. Ive done it plenty of times and havent caught shit thank god, but thats the trust that i put in certain women and the trust they put in me. I could not hook up with someone and not tell them i have something..thats just fucked up..deserves jail time.
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Just gonna chime in slightly.
If you think Johan is being shamed for having a disease, you are confused and mistaken. He straight up lied about his disease and gave it to someone else. She is not partially responsible. People are allowed to have sex without condoms. I think she should have thought twice about letting Johan in. The fact that you could be that stupid, selfish and ignorant to knowingly have sex with someone while you have a fucking disease like that, is repulsive. Ive done it plenty of times and havent caught shit thank god, but thats the trust that i put in certain women and the trust they put in me. I could not hook up with someone and not tell them i have something..thats just fucked up..deserves jail time.
Well said sir. Have a gnar.
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She is partially responsible. You are allowed to have unprotected sex, however, by skipping the protection, you are no longer protected. She made a decision to have sex with someone without a condom. That’s on her. He’s a piece of garbage for lying, no doubt. Trust, but verify. Or apply the ointment.
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Just gonna chime in slightly.
If you think Johan is being shamed for having a disease, you are confused and mistaken. He straight up lied about his disease and gave it to someone else. She is not partially responsible. People are allowed to have sex without condoms. I think she should have thought twice about letting Johan in. The fact that you could be that stupid, selfish and ignorant to knowingly have sex with someone while you have a fucking disease like that, is repulsive. Ive done it plenty of times and havent caught shit thank god, but thats the trust that i put in certain women and the trust they put in me. I could not hook up with someone and not tell them i have something..thats just fucked up..deserves jail time.
I have to agree with you on this, as the word victim shaming seems appropriate with what I said earlier.
it's true that Johan is a turd for not disclosing his STD I think he's definitely largely at fault and for that he should be called out. However if you really are trying to go after him she should've lawyered up and then hit him where it matters.
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So Johan Stuckey is being cancelled for having herpes?
Haha, of course this dude doing exactly what I said beat me to it. Amazing.
Johan is cancelled for giving someone herpes knowingly. Not surprised you can’t see the difference there, as unsubtle as it is.
(Also, maybe consider spending less time on these boards).
Also, fuck you.
Lol at CLEARLY joking, why don't you just refrain from "joking" in the future since you clearly aren't as funny as you think? Was it too hard to add the letters jk and the end of that shit post?
What's ironic is that your name is roast beef, and look at you being roasted for getting called out and then trying to beef with those people by insulting them.
Get a life unfunny one, what are you? Brendan Schaub?
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One of my best friends in HS was given herpes by his girlfriend who knew she had it. We knew the girl was crazy but she tried to lock him down on some sick it’s you and me and our herpes against the world.
He got away from her eventually, but she ruined his dick. To her it was about control. Sounds like Johan gets off on ruining these girls. Knowing that he is the guy that spoiled their pie is probably the thrill of it all.
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damn now I wanna know what's up with that dog surgery gofundme! spill it
i sent him $$ and a year later found out that the dog did not need surgery. wasn't disclosed to anyone. so i basically gave $40 to enable this idiot.
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damn now I wanna know what's up with that dog surgery gofundme! spill it
i sent him $$ and a year later found out that the dog did not need surgery. wasn't disclosed to anyone. so i basically gave $40 to enable this idiot.
Is that like a Baker make?
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So Johan Stuckey is being cancelled for having herpes?
Haha, of course this dude doing exactly what I said beat me to it. Amazing.
Johan is cancelled for giving someone herpes knowingly. Not surprised you can’t see the difference there, as unsubtle as it is.
(Also, maybe consider spending less time on these boards).
Also, fuck you.
Lol at CLEARLY joking, why don't you just refrain from "joking" in the future since you clearly aren't as funny as you think? Was it too hard to add the letters jk and the end of that shit post?
What's ironic is that your name is roast beef, and look at you being roasted for getting called out and then trying to beef with those people by insulting them.
Get a life unfunny one, what are you? Brendan Schaub?
Sounds more like coincidence than irony.
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i've hated Johan ever since i saw him on a Weekend Buzz video with Austyn Gillette where the punchline of a 'funny' story he's telling is the fact he met a trans woman. he also referred to her as "it" in the video. Those RIDE videos did a lot to accelerate my complete loss of interest in hearing skaters talk. No wonder so many of them seem to be scrubbed from the internet now!
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So Johan Stuckey is being cancelled for having herpes?
Haha, of course this dude doing exactly what I said beat me to it. Amazing.
Johan is cancelled for giving someone herpes knowingly. Not surprised you can’t see the difference there, as unsubtle as it is.
(Also, maybe consider spending less time on these boards).
Also, fuck you.
Lol at CLEARLY joking, why don't you just refrain from "joking" in the future since you clearly aren't as funny as you think? Was it too hard to add the letters jk and the end of that shit post?
What's ironic is that your name is roast beef, and look at you being roasted for getting called out and then trying to beef with those people by insulting them.
Get a life unfunny one, what are you? Brendan Schaub?
Check out the newbie.
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damn now I wanna know what's up with that dog surgery gofundme! spill it
i sent him $$ and a year later found out that the dog did not need surgery. wasn't disclosed to anyone. so i basically gave $40 to enable this idiot.
enable what, might i ask
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i've hated Johan ever since i saw him on a Weekend Buzz video with Austyn Gillette where the punchline of a 'funny' story he's telling is the fact he met a trans woman. he also referred to her as "it" in the video. Those RIDE videos did a lot to accelerate my complete loss of interest in hearing skaters talk. No wonder so many of them seem to be scrubbed from the internet now!
They seem to have removed that episode
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This sucks because i was a fan of his skating and that part with nick cave... Fuck him for that
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So Johan Stuckey is being cancelled for having herpes?
Haha, of course this dude doing exactly what I said beat me to it. Amazing.
Johan is cancelled for giving someone herpes knowingly. Not surprised you can’t see the difference there, as unsubtle as it is.
(Also, maybe consider spending less time on these boards).
Also, fuck you.
Why do people think pretending to be a fucking dumbass constitutes humor? Christ
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What a horrible thing to do to someone.
Obviously, we all need to protect ourselves from any possible infection and from spreading an infection to someone else, but only a piece of shit would lie about having a disease in order to have condomless sex with someone. We all need to be careful, but it's not like we've all played it 100% safe all the time.
I mean has anyone ever actually used protection when going down on a chick? I mean Michael Douglass got throat cancer from Catherine Zeta Jones's STD, right? (Is this just a rumor?)
However, I'm curious about the notion of rape culture in skateboarding. I don't think we are anywhere on the level of baseball, basketball, football, or hockey players, which have a much higher likelihood than other athletes to be pieces of shit. I don't think we have that same bro-brah frat boy roofie mentality, do we?
I hate to say it, but skateboarders probably aren’t all that different than the types of athletes you mentioned. Did you listen to Josh Wilson on The Bunt? You could extract the audio of him talking about trying to have a shared sexual experience with Justin Henry and a random girl at a bar (which he referred to as “team bonding”) and play it for a stranger on the street, and odds are they would assume he’s a college lacrosse player or a swimmer.
Obviously this is just one example, but in the end I would safely assume that the % of bad apples in skateboarding is not far off from other sports/subcultures (music scene, actors, etc).
She wanted to fuck both of them
The fucking isn't the point. God you guys have no fucking reading comprehension, do you? Skaters really are as dumb as the stereotype.
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So Johan Stuckey is being cancelled for having herpes?
Haha, of course this dude doing exactly what I said beat me to it. Amazing.
Johan is cancelled for giving someone herpes knowingly. Not surprised you can’t see the difference there, as unsubtle as it is.
(Also, maybe consider spending less time on these boards).
Also, fuck you.
Why do people think pretending to be a fucking dumbass constitutes humor? Christ
Because it’s funny.
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damn now I wanna know what's up with that dog surgery gofundme! spill it
i sent him $$ and a year later found out that the dog did not need surgery. wasn't disclosed to anyone. so i basically gave $40 to enable this idiot.
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What a horrible thing to do to someone.
Obviously, we all need to protect ourselves from any possible infection and from spreading an infection to someone else, but only a piece of shit would lie about having a disease in order to have condomless sex with someone. We all need to be careful, but it's not like we've all played it 100% safe all the time.
I mean has anyone ever actually used protection when going down on a chick? I mean Michael Douglass got throat cancer from Catherine Zeta Jones's STD, right? (Is this just a rumor?)
However, I'm curious about the notion of rape culture in skateboarding. I don't think we are anywhere on the level of baseball, basketball, football, or hockey players, which have a much higher likelihood than other athletes to be pieces of shit. I don't think we have that same bro-brah frat boy roofie mentality, do we?
I hate to say it, but skateboarders probably aren’t all that different than the types of athletes you mentioned. Did you listen to Josh Wilson on The Bunt? You could extract the audio of him talking about trying to have a shared sexual experience with Justin Henry and a random girl at a bar (which he referred to as “team bonding”) and play it for a stranger on the street, and odds are they would assume he’s a college lacrosse player or a swimmer.
Obviously this is just one example, but in the end I would safely assume that the % of bad apples in skateboarding is not far off from other sports/subcultures (music scene, actors, etc).
She wanted to fuck both of them
The fucking isn't the point. God you guys have no fucking reading comprehension, do you? Skaters really are as dumb as the stereotype.
Okay what's the point then? She wanted to fuck both of them and he called it team bonding. So what? He made a dumb joke.
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What a horrible thing to do to someone.
Obviously, we all need to protect ourselves from any possible infection and from spreading an infection to someone else, but only a piece of shit would lie about having a disease in order to have condomless sex with someone. We all need to be careful, but it's not like we've all played it 100% safe all the time.
I mean has anyone ever actually used protection when going down on a chick? I mean Michael Douglass got throat cancer from Catherine Zeta Jones's STD, right? (Is this just a rumor?)
However, I'm curious about the notion of rape culture in skateboarding. I don't think we are anywhere on the level of baseball, basketball, football, or hockey players, which have a much higher likelihood than other athletes to be pieces of shit. I don't think we have that same bro-brah frat boy roofie mentality, do we?
I hate to say it, but skateboarders probably aren’t all that different than the types of athletes you mentioned. Did you listen to Josh Wilson on The Bunt? You could extract the audio of him talking about trying to have a shared sexual experience with Justin Henry and a random girl at a bar (which he referred to as “team bonding”) and play it for a stranger on the street, and odds are they would assume he’s a college lacrosse player or a swimmer.
Obviously this is just one example, but in the end I would safely assume that the % of bad apples in skateboarding is not far off from other sports/subcultures (music scene, actors, etc).
She wanted to fuck both of them
The fucking isn't the point. God you guys have no fucking reading comprehension, do you? Skaters really are as dumb as the stereotype.
Okay what's the point then? She wanted to fuck both of them and he called it team bonding. So what? He made a dumb joke.
Yeah the SJW’s don’t respond well to dumb jokes. No fun allowed anymore.
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What a horrible thing to do to someone.
Obviously, we all need to protect ourselves from any possible infection and from spreading an infection to someone else, but only a piece of shit would lie about having a disease in order to have condomless sex with someone. We all need to be careful, but it's not like we've all played it 100% safe all the time.
I mean has anyone ever actually used protection when going down on a chick? I mean Michael Douglass got throat cancer from Catherine Zeta Jones's STD, right? (Is this just a rumor?)
However, I'm curious about the notion of rape culture in skateboarding. I don't think we are anywhere on the level of baseball, basketball, football, or hockey players, which have a much higher likelihood than other athletes to be pieces of shit. I don't think we have that same bro-brah frat boy roofie mentality, do we?
I hate to say it, but skateboarders probably aren’t all that different than the types of athletes you mentioned. Did you listen to Josh Wilson on The Bunt? You could extract the audio of him talking about trying to have a shared sexual experience with Justin Henry and a random girl at a bar (which he referred to as “team bonding”) and play it for a stranger on the street, and odds are they would assume he’s a college lacrosse player or a swimmer.
Obviously this is just one example, but in the end I would safely assume that the % of bad apples in skateboarding is not far off from other sports/subcultures (music scene, actors, etc).
She wanted to fuck both of them
The fucking isn't the point. God you guys have no fucking reading comprehension, do you? Skaters really are as dumb as the stereotype.
Okay what's the point then? She wanted to fuck both of them and he called it team bonding. So what? He made a dumb joke.
Your “jokes” fucking suck, you baby-brained cretin.
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What a horrible thing to do to someone.
Obviously, we all need to protect ourselves from any possible infection and from spreading an infection to someone else, but only a piece of shit would lie about having a disease in order to have condomless sex with someone. We all need to be careful, but it's not like we've all played it 100% safe all the time.
I mean has anyone ever actually used protection when going down on a chick? I mean Michael Douglass got throat cancer from Catherine Zeta Jones's STD, right? (Is this just a rumor?)
However, I'm curious about the notion of rape culture in skateboarding. I don't think we are anywhere on the level of baseball, basketball, football, or hockey players, which have a much higher likelihood than other athletes to be pieces of shit. I don't think we have that same bro-brah frat boy roofie mentality, do we?
I hate to say it, but skateboarders probably aren’t all that different than the types of athletes you mentioned. Did you listen to Josh Wilson on The Bunt? You could extract the audio of him talking about trying to have a shared sexual experience with Justin Henry and a random girl at a bar (which he referred to as “team bonding”) and play it for a stranger on the street, and odds are they would assume he’s a college lacrosse player or a swimmer.
Obviously this is just one example, but in the end I would safely assume that the % of bad apples in skateboarding is not far off from other sports/subcultures (music scene, actors, etc).
She wanted to fuck both of them
The fucking isn't the point. God you guys have no fucking reading comprehension, do you? Skaters really are as dumb as the stereotype.
Okay what's the point then? She wanted to fuck both of them and he called it team bonding. So what? He made a dumb joke.
Shut up kook. Fucking bleeding heart cry baby bitch.
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Nobody is stopping anyone from telling dumb jokes though. It's completely allowed. If no-one laughs and someone calls you stupid for the joke, that's also allowed, so too bad I guess?
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i've hated Johan ever since i saw him on a Weekend Buzz video with Austyn Gillette where the punchline of a 'funny' story he's telling is the fact he met a trans woman. he also referred to her as "it" in the video. Those RIDE videos did a lot to accelerate my complete loss of interest in hearing skaters talk. No wonder so many of them seem to be scrubbed from the internet now!
They seem to have removed that episode
yeah seems like it, i also tried to look it up to include in my post. idk who thought it was a good idea to get skaters drunk before filming an interview, but dudes said sus shit on those all the time. imagine what was bad enough to get cut at the time lol
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He has done this to MANY girls......all got them infected.......
WKND joked about this in the roast, which they have now taken down..........
https://youtu.be/Or4RANuq2sE (https://youtu.be/Or4RANuq2sE)
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The brainlessness of these prostithots are ridiculously stupid! You knew he was a skater you looked him up? If you're still going through with fucking him then you deserved it.
I hate this try now and cry wolf victimhood mentality seems as though the brains that some people were born with is there but they just ignore it.
As someone else said if you're dumb enough to believe his goofy ass you were the sucker, get over it and get a treatment like anyone else.
There isn't a cure for it, just treatments to reduce flare-up duration and symptom severity. No matter what your argument is, she will have this shit for the rest of her life (not counting if some expensive as hell cure comes out in the future) and he knew he had it while she didn't.
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Looks like Thrasher have taken down the roast video as well.
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Looks like Thrasher have taken down the roast video as well.
it was up this morning like an hour ago. damage control in full effect. probably schmitty too
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Looks like Thrasher have taken down the roast video as well.
“Sir, there’s been a recent uptick in views on some boring ass Johan roast video.”
“Did something happen?”
“Yeah I guess he lied to some LA woman and gave her herpes...”
“That doesn’t align with hellride viewpoints, take it down, IMMEDIATELY!”
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Looks like Thrasher have taken down the roast video as well.
I had no idea such a boring skater was so connected
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damn now I wanna know what's up with that dog surgery gofundme! spill it
i sent him $$ and a year later found out that the dog did not need surgery. wasn't disclosed to anyone. so i basically gave $40 to enable this idiot.
The lifestyle of active herpes transmission.
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I did some brief research on the subject matter. And yes, you can sue someone for giving you herpes, especially if the person who gave it to you knew they had it. Apparently multiple people have sued Usher over this:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vice.com/amp/en_us/article/zm3qv4/should-you-sue-your-partner-for-giving-you-herpes
So, if Emily wants to tell her story, and make other women aware of what Johan is capable of, I think that’s fine.
But to try and destroy Johan for his recklessness and to try and make him have no career in skateboarding is another thing. Life isn’t fair of course; but to say WKND should drop Johan because of something he did in his personal life is completely different. Sue him Emily!
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can we talk about how the word "cancelled" can be spelled with one or two "L"s and still be correct? plz discuss
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defending this behavior mind blowing, yet unfortunately not surprising. i’ve been with two women who have herpes. they were upfront, weren’t having a flare up, i wore a condom, and had a great time. if some girl knowingly gave you herpes you and your boys would be tearing her down calling her a slut. this forum needs to be bleached.
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I did some brief research on the subject matter. And yes, you can sue someone for giving you herpes, especially if the person who gave it to you knew they had it. Apparently multiple people have sued Usher over this:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vice.com/amp/en_us/article/zm3qv4/should-you-sue-your-partner-for-giving-you-herpes
So, if Emily wants to tell her story, and make other women aware of what Johan is capable of, I think that’s fine.
But to try and destroy Johan for his recklessness and to try and make him have no career in skateboarding is another thing. Life isn’t fair of course; but to say WKND should drop Johan because of something he did in his personal life is completely different. Sue him Emily!
that's literally what she's doing
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defending this behavior mind blowing, yet unfortunately not surprising. i’ve been with two women who have herpes. they were upfront, weren’t having a flare up, i wore a condom, and had a great time. if some girl knowingly gave you herpes you and your boys would be tearing her down calling her a slut. this forum needs to be bleached.
exactly.
the "cancelling" is asinine though. that lets* the person off without a scratch. i think that this might be the best route to have taken and i applaud her for speaking up. its left to us to decide how to treat this guy as a peer. thats an exceptionally lenient "punishment" if you could call it that.
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I think this thread is a pretty good example of why so many people do not come forward or tell others about their sexual assault and other related incidents. Some of the posts in here are insane. The skateboard community obviously still has a lot of growing to do.
Came across this during a quick Google search out of curiosity about the subject:
"Criminal charges may ensue if you do not say anything to your partner. In states like California, it is a felony for anyone who knows that they are infected with HIV/AIDS to:
-Engage in unprotected sexual activity with a partner
-Not tell the partner about their HIV status
-Engage in unprotected sexual activity for the purpose of infecting the partner with HIV
Anyone violating this law faces up to eight years in jail. California’s law, and other state laws as well, makes it a misdemeanor (resulting in a few months in jail, a fine, or both) if the STD is something other than HIV/AIDS."
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Go ahead and keep making those cancelled tv show threads
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shoulda put something about him needing wifi to get back to a text message
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Always protect yourself. I'll normally wait a month or so before I have sex with a girl I'm seeing. if they can't wait that long she ain't for me
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Local sex God
Still bummed he’s on Vans flow
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I did some brief research on the subject matter. And yes, you can sue someone for giving you herpes, especially if the person who gave it to you knew they had it. Apparently multiple people have sued Usher over this:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vice.com/amp/en_us/article/zm3qv4/should-you-sue-your-partner-for-giving-you-herpes
So, if Emily wants to tell her story, and make other women aware of what Johan is capable of, I think that’s fine.
But to try and destroy Johan for his recklessness and to try and make him have no career in skateboarding is another thing. Life isn’t fair of course; but to say WKND should drop Johan because of something he did in his personal life is completely different. Sue him Emily!
that's literally what she's doing
I agree that is what she’s doing so I applaud her.
I guess what I meant to say is, don’t be surprised if WKND doesn’t drop him from their company. Or if Johan is still able to have a decent skate career.
The best way to truly go after him is to sue him, and make other girls aware of his lying herpes ass
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Thank cheese
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Anyone will agree that lying about an std, and then having unprotected sex and transmitting it is a scumbag move. But calling this rape is kinda fucked.
If somebody convinced you to give them 5 dollars without force or intimidation, and you decided to give them 5 dollars, did they rob or steal from you? Just because you weren’t in the mood to fuck, but did after some persuasion, doesn’t make it rape.
Obviously if there was some kind of entrapment/force/intimidation then that is a different story, but it doesn’t sound like any of that went down.
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One of my best friends in HS was given herpes by his girlfriend who knew she had it. We knew the girl was crazy but she tried to lock him down on some sick it’s you and me and our herpes against the world.
He got away from her eventually, but she ruined his dick. To her it was about control. Sounds like Johan gets off on ruining these girls. Knowing that he is the guy that spoiled their pie is probably the thrill of it all.
You’ve got a way with words. Wild that the last part seems like it could be feasible as well—Lohan stinks and none of his actions here are justifiable, his “uh oh! Should I?” text is particularly gross.
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LA woman
Mr Jo Jo Risin
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Should've paid attention in health class
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Let’s say instead of booze and sex this clown and the girl went to a gun range. He talks at a normal volume and seems to hear you. You go in the gun range, do the boilerplate and head into the shooting part. Mr. asshole insists you don’t need the hearing protection. He comes here all the time and those signs are just to scare people and protect their ass from liability. Fuck those signs and fuck hearing protection. But he is deaf and and has cochlear implants he can just unplug so it doesn’t hurt his hears. That’s how big an asshole this guy is. Then you blast off a bunch of rounds and your ears are blown out. His fault?
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Thank cheese
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So you heard the jokes(?) and felt creeped out but you proceeded to fuck him? Brilliant.
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Of course, dude. Blame the victim. Sometimes when people hear jokes, they think they’re actually jokes.
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Should've paid attention in health class
For real. The fact that you're taking treatments and not in the midst of an outbreak doesn't mean that there's no chance you'll transmit an STD.
He fucked up. He wasn't open. It was his responsibility to inform her and to wear protection, because he had the disease. He didn't. It's that simple.
And really just stop blaming the girl, and stop blaming women as well for that matter. Who gives a shit if "some women are liars?" Who gives a shit if she pole dances or didn't firmly insist that he wear protection? It bears repeating - when you knowingly have an STD, you need to stay as safe as you can if you're sexually active. The responsibility is yours.
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Anyone will agree that lying about an std, and then having unprotected sex and transmitting it is a scumbag move. But calling this rape is kinda fucked.
If somebody convinced you to give them 5 dollars without force or intimidation, and you decided to give them 5 dollars, did they rob or steal from you? Just because you weren’t in the mood to fuck, but did after some persuasion, doesn’t make it rape.
Obviously if there was some kind of entrapment/force/intimidation then that is a different story, but it doesn’t sound like any of that went down.
Correct.
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Of course, dude. Blame the victim. Sometimes when people hear jokes, they think they’re actually jokes.
I get that. But then when your health comes into the equation do you not reconsider.
He told her he was clean. Which a reasonable person can take to mean she would not have if he admitted to not being clean. Which a reasonable person can then take to mean she is aware of the risks of transmission of sti’s through unprotected sex. If she didn’t know about it why would she ask. Thus, the responsibility for (as) safe (as possible) sex is with both parties.
If he raped/date raped/assaulted/roofied then the fault is 100% on dickhead. If she is aware of the risks of transmission of sti’s through unbarricaded sex, then she had an equal role to play. That’s not victim blaming, that’s being reasonable. It’s wearing a mask during a respiratory pandemic.
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Should've paid attention in health class
For real. The fact that you're taking treatments and not in the midst of an outbreak doesn't mean that there's no chance you'll transmit an STD.
He fucked up. He wasn't open. It was his responsibility to inform her and to wear protection, because he had the disease. He didn't. It's that simple.
And really just stop blaming the girl, and stop blaming women as well for that matter. Who gives a shit if "some women are liars?" Who gives a shit if she pole dances or didn't firmly insist that he wear protection? It bears repeating - when you knowingly have an STD, you need to stay as safe as you can if you're sexually active. The responsibility is yours.
This. Stop blaming the victim here.
I was a huge fan of Johan and went years only skating WKND boards, largely because of him. No more now.
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Of course, dude. Blame the victim. Sometimes when people hear jokes, they think they’re actually jokes.
I get that. But then when your health comes into the equation do you not reconsider.
He told her he was clean. Which a reasonable person can take to mean she would not have if he admitted to not being clean. Which a reasonable person can then take to mean she is aware of the risks of transmission of sti’s through unprotected sex. If she didn’t know about it why would she ask. Thus, the responsibility for (as) safe (as possible) sex is with both parties.
If he raped/date raped/assaulted/roofied then the fault is 100% on dickhead. If she is aware of the risks of transmission of sti’s through unbarricaded sex, then she had an equal role to play. That’s not victim blaming, that’s being reasonable. It’s wearing a mask during a respiratory pandemic.
The fact you’re trying to find a way to make Johan not liable for his actions is preposterous. The fact he know he’s not clean and saying he’s clean is pure scumbaggery at its finest and the dude should be dealt with swiftly and justly. God knows how many other girls he’s done this too. We can argue that it’s not rape but the fact is the dude is out here having unprotected sex saying he’s clean and spreading diseases. Diseases that stay with you for life. Fuck that ugly fucktard and anyone defending him or weekend.
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Ain’t gonna lie this is pretty “on brand” for WKND.
I’d be laughing my ass off if I were them(and I’m sure they are) she has no case.
(but I’d have to see their private messages to each other, all her texts and dm’s from around that time period etc to prove she didn’t get it from someone else, prove that he didn’t verbally tell her beforehand, she would have to prove she didn’t previously have herpes, shit gets complicated and a lawyer could break her down. Plus she might not agree to those terms which will close the case before it starts. He’s technically a “celebrity” and “out” about his previous std’s sti’s so becomes a grey area and I’m sure LA sees this shit all the time and depending on previous cases outcome could rule heavily in hog warts favor. Didn’t they create a “family tree” style diagram showing that Alex Rodriguez gave herpes to basically everyone in Hollywood including Justin Timberlake and everyone he’s fucked and all the celebrities all those girls fucked?
-Personally I’m surprised she outed herself as having sex with that ugly dude. But whatever this is why I only date conservative girls that I’ve know for a couple years. This is where feminism, Marxism and alt-lefters go wrong. Next step is enforced prohibition because alcohol seems to blame for all this, that’s what cancel culture is leaning towards.
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Of course, dude. Blame the victim. Sometimes when people hear jokes, they think they’re actually jokes.
I get that. But then when your health comes into the equation do you not reconsider.
He told her he was clean. Which a reasonable person can take to mean she would not have if he admitted to not being clean. Which a reasonable person can then take to mean she is aware of the risks of transmission of sti’s through unprotected sex. If she didn’t know about it why would she ask. Thus, the responsibility for (as) safe (as possible) sex is with both parties.
If he raped/date raped/assaulted/roofied then the fault is 100% on dickhead. If she is aware of the risks of transmission of sti’s through unbarricaded sex, then she had an equal role to play. That’s not victim blaming, that’s being reasonable. It’s wearing a mask during a respiratory pandemic.
The fact you’re trying to find a way to make Johan not liable for his actions is preposterous. The fact he know he’s not clean and saying he’s clean is pure scumbaggery at its finest and the dude should be dealt with swiftly and justly. God knows how many other girls he’s done this too. We can argue that it’s not rape but the fact is the dude is out here having unprotected sex saying he’s clean and spreading diseases. Diseases that stay with you for life. Fuck that ugly fucktard and anyone defending him or weekend.
It couldn't be more clear that I’m not alleviating any of johans responsibility. But who’s concern is is my health? Your health? I’ll give you a hint, neither answer is johan. By her own admission she knows what sti’s are and how they are transmitted. She also ignored warning signs as to the possibility of this scumbag having an sti, but she chose to trust his word over her gut feeling. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. If these encounters were consensual and legal and she was a willing participant to not using anything to bar the transmission of the disease, then she is to blame for her health condition.
Had they gone though a sexual quarantine and then been tested Clean and agreed to a monogamous Relationship and it came out he photoshopped the results to say negative or he got it on the side the day after the test, then she is blameless. If he raped/roofied/assaulted her then she is blameless. He is a scumbag in any case, the degree to which remains to be seen, probably.
But your health is your own. Protect yourself. It’s simple.
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Anyone will agree that lying about an std, and then having unprotected sex and transmitting it is a scumbag move. But calling this rape is kinda fucked.
If somebody convinced you to give them 5 dollars without force or intimidation, and you decided to give them 5 dollars, did they rob or steal from you? Just because you weren’t in the mood to fuck, but did after some persuasion, doesn’t make it rape.
Obviously if there was some kind of entrapment/force/intimidation then that is a different story, but it doesn’t sound like any of that went down.
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this is why I only date conservative girls that I’ve know for a couple years.
She may dress like Tom Penny, but she's still your mom.
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Of course, dude. Blame the victim. Sometimes when people hear jokes, they think they’re actually jokes.
I get that. But then when your health comes into the equation do you not reconsider.
He told her he was clean. Which a reasonable person can take to mean she would not have if he admitted to not being clean. Which a reasonable person can then take to mean she is aware of the risks of transmission of sti’s through unprotected sex. If she didn’t know about it why would she ask. Thus, the responsibility for (as) safe (as possible) sex is with both parties.
If he raped/date raped/assaulted/roofied then the fault is 100% on dickhead. If she is aware of the risks of transmission of sti’s through unbarricaded sex, then she had an equal role to play. That’s not victim blaming, that’s being reasonable. It’s wearing a mask during a respiratory pandemic.
The fact you’re trying to find a way to make Johan not liable for his actions is preposterous. The fact he know he’s not clean and saying he’s clean is pure scumbaggery at its finest and the dude should be dealt with swiftly and justly. God knows how many other girls he’s done this too. We can argue that it’s not rape but the fact is the dude is out here having unprotected sex saying he’s clean and spreading diseases. Diseases that stay with you for life. Fuck that ugly fucktard and anyone defending him or weekend.
So he would be cool with you if he had just never gotten tested?
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this is why I only date conservative girls that I’ve know for a couple years.
She may dress like Tom Penny, but she's still your mom.
Keep it in the fam dawg
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Man, I'm a big Johan fan but that's some cold shit to knowingly have herpes and denying it twice, (almost 3 times like Peter denying knowing Christ), then giving it to someone. I mean, unpopular opinion, but the fucking moron should have never admitted to it. This to me isn't me too shit though, this is just personal stuff getting blown up, and fair enough if you want to blow someone up, but it's just a line is drawn at a certain point. What was the joke from the roast? Did they address this specific situation or just make fun of his herpes?
It's kind of like my girlfriend was showing me a fucking tik-tok of Mia Khalifa (not porn...this time) this past weekend. She (Mia) is recording herself next to a laptop of some fat whale reading a script saying "Say it with me, Mia Khalifa only did porn for 3 months and was only paid 12 thousand dollars for her work... blah blah blah". I instantly flew into a rage and said what the fuck is the point of this? She only did it 3 months? Who gives a fuck? Is someone walking around swearing she did it 12 years? She only got paid 12 thousands dollars? Why do I give a fuck and why is it anybody elses fault that she wishes she made more money? She signed up to do porn, which she knew the public would see. She was already popular on reddit before bangbros so why the fuck is it anybodys problem that she can't come to terms with the fact that she did porn and she regrets it? Side note, my girl was just showing me the latest drama and agreed with me.
There's a lot of bullshit going around right now where every wrong a woman has experienced is something that the whole world needs to hear and someone else needs to be attacked for. Mia Khalifa agreed to get fucked on one of the most famous pornsites ever and because she did it for just 3 months and made 12 grand it's bangbros fault that she regrets it?
Sorry to go on a tangent, but I am close with a lot of women that have been sexually assaulted or something similar and I hate hearing some famous person trying to get a piece of attention for something that is a non-story.
I think this situation is fucked up and is a personal thing, but it's out there now and it is fucked up and wrong to lie about that kind of thing. It's also common sense to use protection no matter what, we are all pretty much taught that since we're 16 even if we don't all do it, and if you are stripping on instagram you probably know that too. At this point it's just exposing any wrong that any public figure did for some type of exposure.
Remember 2 months ago when Heath was getting cancelled for beating up that dude on his birthday but right after that Nakel did the video and the Heath thing feels like nothing now. I firmly believe everyone has some skeleton in their closet that if you were famous, and someone exposed it, you would get fucked depending on how it was done. From people using the n word minus the "hard r" 10 years ago, to someone doing some freaky shit or making an inappropriate joke.
Sometimes I'm tired as fuck and dont want to have sex and my girlfriend will start touching me after I say I'm tired, am I raped if I eventually got hard and took her to pound town? I'm also going to need more context on he pushed her head down forcibly, I might be commiting sexual assault on a weekly basis and will need to get a safety waiver and release of liability drawn up to protect myself in case I ever get exposed on SLAP and my girl tries to cancel me.
Women are kind of doing the SLAP cancel thing where we find someone worth being called out for being a total piece of shit to calling out some dork for singing along to a song that said the n word.
I think I've shown myself to be pretty liberal on here about stuff, but some things I have just stayed out of. My gears are getting grinded lately. Again, I know many women who were straight up raped or sexually assaulted and when people come out with half stories it's like when do we decide that some shit just isn't on that level.
It's like that idiot who got kicked off Baker piggybacking the Nakel thing so he could promote an extremely average part.
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Of course, dude. Blame the victim. Sometimes when people hear jokes, they think they’re actually jokes.
I get that. But then when your health comes into the equation do you not reconsider.
He told her he was clean. Which a reasonable person can take to mean she would not have if he admitted to not being clean. Which a reasonable person can then take to mean she is aware of the risks of transmission of sti’s through unprotected sex. If she didn’t know about it why would she ask. Thus, the responsibility for (as) safe (as possible) sex is with both parties.
If he raped/date raped/assaulted/roofied then the fault is 100% on dickhead. If she is aware of the risks of transmission of sti’s through unbarricaded sex, then she had an equal role to play. That’s not victim blaming, that’s being reasonable. It’s wearing a mask during a respiratory pandemic.
The fact you’re trying to find a way to make Johan not liable for his actions is preposterous. The fact he know he’s not clean and saying he’s clean is pure scumbaggery at its finest and the dude should be dealt with swiftly and justly. God knows how many other girls he’s done this too. We can argue that it’s not rape but the fact is the dude is out here having unprotected sex saying he’s clean and spreading diseases. Diseases that stay with you for life. Fuck that ugly fucktard and anyone defending him or weekend.
It couldn't be more clear that I’m not alleviating any of johans responsibility. But who’s concern is is my health? Your health? I’ll give you a hint, neither answer is johan. By her own admission she knows what sti’s are and how they are transmitted. She also ignored warning signs as to the possibility of this scumbag having an sti, but she chose to trust his word over her gut feeling. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. If these encounters were consensual and legal and she was a willing participant to not using anything to bar the transmission of the disease, then she is to blame for her health condition.
Had they gone though a sexual quarantine and then been tested Clean and agreed to a monogamous Relationship and it came out he photoshopped the results to say negative or he got it on the side the day after the test, then she is blameless. If he raped/roofied/assaulted her then she is blameless. He is a scumbag in any case, the degree to which remains to be seen, probably.
But your health is your own. Protect yourself. It’s simple.
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Man, I'm a big Johan fan but that's some cold shit to knowingly have herpes and denying it twice, (almost 3 times like Peter denying knowing Christ), then giving it to someone. I mean, unpopular opinion, but the fucking moron should have never admitted to it. This to me isn't me too shit though, this is just personal stuff getting blown up, and fair enough if you want to blow someone up, but it's just a line is drawn at a certain point. What was the joke from the roast? Did they address this specific situation or just make fun of his herpes?
It's kind of like my girlfriend was showing me a fucking tik-tok of Mia Khalifa (not porn...this time) this past weekend. She (Mia) is recording herself next to a laptop of some fat whale reading a script saying "Say it with me, Mia Khalifa only did porn for 3 months and was only paid 12 thousand dollars for her work... blah blah blah". I instantly flew into a rage and said what the fuck is the point of this? She only did it 3 months? Who gives a fuck? Is someone walking around swearing she did it 12 years? She only got paid 12 thousands dollars? Why do I give a fuck and why is it anybody elses fault that she wishes she made more money? She signed up to do porn, which she knew the public would see. She was already popular on reddit before bangbros so why the fuck is it anybodys problem that she can't come to terms with the fact that she did porn and she regrets it? Side note, my girl was just showing me the latest drama and agreed with me.
There's a lot of bullshit going around right now where every wrong a woman has experienced is something that the whole world needs to hear and someone else needs to be attacked for. Mia Khalifa agreed to get fucked on one of the most famous pornsites ever and because she did it for just 3 months and made 12 grand it's bangbros fault that she regrets it?
Sorry to go on a tangent, but I am close with a lot of women that have been sexually assaulted or something similar and I hate hearing some famous person trying to get a piece of attention for something that is a non-story.
I think this situation is fucked up and is a personal thing, but it's out there now and it is fucked up and wrong to lie about that kind of thing. It's also common sense to use protection no matter what, we are all pretty much taught that since we're 16 even if we don't all do it, and if you are stripping on instagram you probably know that too. At this point it's just exposing any wrong that any public figure did for some type of exposure.
Remember 2 months ago when Heath was getting cancelled for beating up that dude on his birthday but right after that Nakel did the video and the Heath thing feels like nothing now. I firmly believe everyone has some skeleton in their closet that if you were famous, and someone exposed it, you would get fucked depending on how it was done. From people using the n word minus the "hard r" 10 years ago, to someone doing some freaky shit or making an inappropriate joke.
Sometimes I'm tired as fuck and dont want to have sex and my girlfriend will start touching me after I say I'm tired, am I raped if I eventually got hard and took her to pound town. I'm also going to need more context on he pushed her head down forcibly, I might be commiting sexual assault on a weekly basis and will need to get a safety waiver and release of liability drawn up to protect myself in case I ever get exposed on SLAP and my girl tries to cancel me.
Telling it how it is. You’re the realest dude on SLAP. Respect ✊
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I'm not trying to push any kind of anti-woman sentiment and I sure as hell am not trying to protect a pro skateboarder. I just think we are having this conversation so I want to throw my two cents in. I really like to discuss tough topics, and ever since I was on the debate team when I was a kid I try to approach any kind of debatable topic from the middle and let facts guide my opinion and I think I am pretty normal dude that frequents this board a lot so I guess I wanna have a little input on the current hot topic. I was bummed on the Heath thing because he has been my favorite skater since I was a kid. I thought it was a lame thing to do but I could also easily see plenty of my good-hearted friends doing something similar. My friends used to do a lot of fucked up jokes to each other and less to me because they just knew I was sensitive to that kind of ribbing.
Johan is one of my favorite pro's nowadays, and yet I still think he's a scumbag for doing that, even if plenty of people don't think so. I know I'm not like a lot of dudes (insert meme here). A lot of my friends cheat on girls and shit like that and don't care, or would do something similar, I think growing up with all women in my house has made me different in that way and seeing my dad act like my friends do when he was no longer in the home made me not a fan of that shit.
I've been taken advantage of by every woman I've been with beside the angel sent from heaven I am currently with but I have tried to never ever go against my own moral compass despite their behavior.
I have that "fuck johan stuckey" long sleeve and I was going to wear it on a trip this weekend but wont be, just feels gross. I would like to hear more on this, I won't toss it yet as I don't have a lot of clothes period. I wear shirts until they are destroyed, I wont be wearing that one out but it gets cold here so it's something I am fine sleeping in.
It's a bummer to hear, I think the chick could have been smarter, but she doesn't deserve that and it doesn't make it ok. If he lied about getting tested I honestly would just be like, I don't care, but knowing you have something and lying about it is just plain gross.
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Ain’t gonna lie this is pretty “on brand” for WKND.
I’d be laughing my ass off if I were them(and I’m sure they are) she has no case.
(but I’d have to see their private messages to each other, all her texts and dm’s from around that time period etc to prove she didn’t get it from someone else, prove that he didn’t verbally tell her beforehand, she would have to prove she didn’t previously have herpes, shit gets complicated and a lawyer could break her down. Plus she might not agree to those terms which will close the case before it starts. He’s technically a “celebrity” and “out” about his previous std’s sti’s so becomes a grey area and I’m sure LA sees this shit all the time and depending on previous cases outcome could rule heavily in hog warts favor. Didn’t they create a “family tree” style diagram showing that Alex Rodriguez gave herpes to basically everyone in Hollywood including Justin Timberlake and everyone he’s fucked and all the celebrities all those girls fucked?
-Personally I’m surprised she outed herself as having sex with that ugly dude. But whatever this is why I only date conservative girls that I’ve know for a couple years. This is where feminism, Marxism and alt-lefters go wrong. Next step is enforced prohibition because alcohol seems to blame for all this, that’s what cancel culture is leaning towards.
Pffft hahahahhah
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This is where feminism, Marxism and alt-lefters go wrong. Next step is enforced prohibition because alcohol seems to blame for all this, that’s what cancel culture is leaning towards.
There is no "alt left," shit-for-brains.
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Man, I'm a big Johan fan but that's some cold shit to knowingly have herpes and denying it twice, (almost 3 times like Peter denying knowing Christ), then giving it to someone. I mean, unpopular opinion, but the fucking moron should have never admitted to it. This to me isn't me too shit though, this is just personal stuff getting blown up, and fair enough if you want to blow someone up, but it's just a line is drawn at a certain point. What was the joke from the roast? Did they address this specific situation or just make fun of his herpes?
It's kind of like my girlfriend was showing me a fucking tik-tok of Mia Khalifa (not porn...this time) this past weekend. She (Mia) is recording herself next to a laptop of some fat whale reading a script saying "Say it with me, Mia Khalifa only did porn for 3 months and was only paid 12 thousand dollars for her work... blah blah blah". I instantly flew into a rage and said what the fuck is the point of this? She only did it 3 months? Who gives a fuck? Is someone walking around swearing she did it 12 years? She only got paid 12 thousands dollars? Why do I give a fuck and why is it anybody elses fault that she wishes she made more money? She signed up to do porn, which she knew the public would see. She was already popular on reddit before bangbros so why the fuck is it anybodys problem that she can't come to terms with the fact that she did porn and she regrets it? Side note, my girl was just showing me the latest drama and agreed with me.
There's a lot of bullshit going around right now where every wrong a woman has experienced is something that the whole world needs to hear and someone else needs to be attacked for. Mia Khalifa agreed to get fucked on one of the most famous pornsites ever and because she did it for just 3 months and made 12 grand it's bangbros fault that she regrets it?
Sorry to go on a tangent, but I am close with a lot of women that have been sexually assaulted or something similar and I hate hearing some famous person trying to get a piece of attention for something that is a non-story.
I think this situation is fucked up and is a personal thing, but it's out there now and it is fucked up and wrong to lie about that kind of thing. It's also common sense to use protection no matter what, we are all pretty much taught that since we're 16 even if we don't all do it, and if you are stripping on instagram you probably know that too. At this point it's just exposing any wrong that any public figure did for some type of exposure.
Remember 2 months ago when Heath was getting cancelled for beating up that dude on his birthday but right after that Nakel did the video and the Heath thing feels like nothing now. I firmly believe everyone has some skeleton in their closet that if you were famous, and someone exposed it, you would get fucked depending on how it was done. From people using the n word minus the "hard r" 10 years ago, to someone doing some freaky shit or making an inappropriate joke.
Sometimes I'm tired as fuck and dont want to have sex and my girlfriend will start touching me after I say I'm tired, am I raped if I eventually got hard and took her to pound town. I'm also going to need more context on he pushed her head down forcibly, I might be commiting sexual assault on a weekly basis and will need to get a safety waiver and release of liability drawn up to protect myself in case I ever get exposed on SLAP and my girl tries to cancel me.
I think I've noticed you saying some stuff I don't agree with before but I think I'm on record somewhere saying I don't get why you get so much hate. But to be honest there is only a handful of people on here that I really pay attention to in the first place, so if you've said something like you support the KKK nobody get mad that I wasn't aware. Please and thanks.
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This is where feminism, Marxism and alt-lefters go wrong. Next step is enforced prohibition because alcohol seems to blame for all this, that’s what cancel culture is leaning towards.
There is no "alt left," shit-for-brains.
plz don't use sfb's name in vain
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I'm not trying to push any kind of anti-woman sentiment and I sure as hell am not trying to protect a pro skateboarder. I just think we are having this conversation so I want to throw my two cents in. I really like to discuss tough topics, and ever since I was on the debate team when I was a kid I try to approach any kind of debatable topic from the middle and let facts guide my opinion and I think I am pretty normal dude that frequents this board a lot so I guess I wanna have a little input on the current hot topic. I was bummed on the Heath thing because he has been my favorite skater since I was a kid. I thought it was a lame thing to do but I could also easily see plenty of my good-hearted friends doing something similar. My friends used to do a lot of fucked up jokes to each other and less to me because they just knew I was sensitive to that kind of ribbing.
Johan is one of my favorite pro's nowadays, and yet I still think he's a scumbag for doing that, even if plenty of people don't think so. I know I'm not like a lot of dudes (insert meme here). A lot of my friends cheat on girls and shit like that and don't care, or would do something similar, I think growing up with all women in my house has made me different in that way and seeing my dad act like my friends do when he was no longer in the home made me not a fan of that shit.
I've been taken advantage of by every woman I've been with beside the angel sent from heaven I am currently with but I have tried to never ever go against my own moral compass despite their behavior.
I have that "fuck johan stuckey" long sleeve and I was going to wear it on a trip this weekend but wont be, just feels gross. I would like to hear more on this, I won't toss it yet as I don't have a lot of clothes period. I wear shirts until they are destroyed, I wont be wearing that one out but it gets cold here so it's something I am fine sleeping in.
It's a bummer to hear, I think the chick could have been smarter, but she doesn't deserve that and it doesn't make it ok. If he lied about getting tested I honestly would just be like, I don't care, but knowing you have something and lying about it is just plain gross.
You're the man for this
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This is where feminism, Marxism and alt-lefters go wrong. Next step is enforced prohibition because alcohol seems to blame for all this, that’s what cancel culture is leaning towards.
There is no "alt left," shit-for-brains.
plz don't use sfb's name in vain
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But whatever this is why I only date conservative girls that I’ve know for a couple years. This is where feminism, Marxism and alt-lefters go wrong. Next step is enforced prohibition because alcohol seems to blame for all this, that’s what cancel culture is leaning towards.
Pffft hahahahhah
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Man, I'm a big Johan fan but that's some cold shit to knowingly have herpes and denying it twice, (almost 3 times like Peter denying knowing Christ), then giving it to someone. I mean, unpopular opinion, but the fucking moron should have never admitted to it. This to me isn't me too shit though, this is just personal stuff getting blown up, and fair enough if you want to blow someone up, but it's just a line is drawn at a certain point. What was the joke from the roast? Did they address this specific situation or just make fun of his herpes?
It's kind of like my girlfriend was showing me a fucking tik-tok of Mia Khalifa (not porn...this time) this past weekend. She (Mia) is recording herself next to a laptop of some fat whale reading a script saying "Say it with me, Mia Khalifa only did porn for 3 months and was only paid 12 thousand dollars for her work... blah blah blah". I instantly flew into a rage and said what the fuck is the point of this? She only did it 3 months? Who gives a fuck? Is someone walking around swearing she did it 12 years? She only got paid 12 thousands dollars? Why do I give a fuck and why is it anybody elses fault that she wishes she made more money? She signed up to do porn, which she knew the public would see. She was already popular on reddit before bangbros so why the fuck is it anybodys problem that she can't come to terms with the fact that she did porn and she regrets it? Side note, my girl was just showing me the latest drama and agreed with me.
There's a lot of bullshit going around right now where every wrong a woman has experienced is something that the whole world needs to hear and someone else needs to be attacked for. Mia Khalifa agreed to get fucked on one of the most famous pornsites ever and because she did it for just 3 months and made 12 grand it's bangbros fault that she regrets it?
Sorry to go on a tangent, but I am close with a lot of women that have been sexually assaulted or something similar and I hate hearing some famous person trying to get a piece of attention for something that is a non-story.
I think this situation is fucked up and is a personal thing, but it's out there now and it is fucked up and wrong to lie about that kind of thing. It's also common sense to use protection no matter what, we are all pretty much taught that since we're 16 even if we don't all do it, and if you are stripping on instagram you probably know that too. At this point it's just exposing any wrong that any public figure did for some type of exposure.
Remember 2 months ago when Heath was getting cancelled for beating up that dude on his birthday but right after that Nakel did the video and the Heath thing feels like nothing now. I firmly believe everyone has some skeleton in their closet that if you were famous, and someone exposed it, you would get fucked depending on how it was done. From people using the n word minus the "hard r" 10 years ago, to someone doing some freaky shit or making an inappropriate joke.
Sometimes I'm tired as fuck and dont want to have sex and my girlfriend will start touching me after I say I'm tired, am I raped if I eventually got hard and took her to pound town. I'm also going to need more context on he pushed her head down forcibly, I might be commiting sexual assault on a weekly basis and will need to get a safety waiver and release of liability drawn up to protect myself in case I ever get exposed on SLAP and my girl tries to cancel me.
Nah I don’t support the KKK lol in truth I am not racist, homophobic, transphobic or anything like that. I get a lot of hate for my opinions which is fair enough as people have the right to disagree with me. I suppose I’ve been getting a lot more hate lately because I don’t really get on board with the whole cancel culture thing and maybe some of my jokes are in bad taste. My only issue with SLAP lately is it seems that a lot of people on here are quick to brand you as dumb or racist or “part of the problem” if you don’t fully agree with their views on certain topics.
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Yeah I see that in some but I think it's usually the younger people and I get how people's emotions get. It's easy though to see those who just want to jump into the drama because it's interesting, I'm sure everyone being stuck at home hasn't helped.
Side not for everyone. I do believe this chick until something comes out to say otherwise. But I will say, I've talked about my crazy ex on here before. How one time I got the best of her in an argument on some serious shit she was up to. When She was caught dead to rights, even though we were 10 feet apart she started screaming "Ow, Ow 50mm! Please stop! What are you doing that hurts!" so I had to call a family member right away who knew she was a psycho, tell them I might get arrested and this is what's happening if it does, luckily nobody called the fucking cops. That same chick also used a website to fake texts from me and make it look like I was still talking to her when I was in a new relationship and hadn't seen the psycho in two years, in court, when I got a restraining order. So that kind of shit does happen. I don't think it's as common as psycho dudes doing shit to chicks, I think I just got really fucked over with the person that was sent my way for a period of time, but it does happen. I was pretty much Johnny Depp'd only I am better looking and broke. I never hit a chick, or emotionally or sexually abused a woman, I've hardly even got around, but that kind of thing could have ruined my fucking life and hardly anyone even knows I exist.
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that's fucked up your parents named you after such a small size
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that's fucked up your parents named you after such a small size
I know dude, but it was ahead of time in 89.
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50mm is so far up Johan's ass that hes getting support from some of the biggest right-wing loser trolls on this forum. Amazing.
To date, Johan has said the n word, lied to girls about his std's (and willingly gave them herpes, chlamydia, gonnorhea), faked a GoFundMe for his dog that wasn't sick and pocketed $3,600 from it. What a stand-up human being. How can anyone defend this piece of trash?
All sorts of losers on here are blaming the girls or shaming them for not wearing condoms or doing sufficient research on not-that-famous pro skaters. Unbelievable.
Lastly, it blows my mind that so many skaters are such hardcore fans of this dork. His skinny jeans, weak style and goofy looking face have always put me off to his footage. I give him credit for progressing so much the last few years, but I've never enjoyed his skating. Fuck Johan Stuckey.
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50mm is so far up Johan's ass that hes getting support from some of the biggest right-wing loser trolls on this forum. Amazing.
To date, Johan has said the n word, lied to girls about his std's (and willingly gave them herpes, chlamydia, gonnorhea), faked a GoFundMe for his dog that wasn't sick and pocketed $3,600 from it. What a stand-up human being. How can anyone defend this piece of trash?
All sorts of losers on here are blaming the girls or shaming them for not wearing condoms or doing sufficient research on not-that-famous pro skaters. Unbelievable.
Lastly, it blows my mind that so many skaters are such hardcore fans of this dork. His skinny jeans, weak style and goofy looking face have always put me off to his footage. I give him credit for progressing so much the last few years, but I've never enjoyed his skating. Fuck Johan Stuckey.
You feel better now you’ve got that off your chest? Also, I’m not a right wing loser. Everyone is in agreement that what Johan done is awful, nobody is “victim shaming” the girl but she can’t put all the blame on Johan. Chill out ya plum.
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50mm is so far up Johan's ass that hes getting support from some of the biggest right-wing loser trolls on this forum. Amazing.
To date, Johan has said the n word, lied to girls about his std's (and willingly gave them herpes, chlamydia, gonnorhea), faked a GoFundMe for his dog that wasn't sick and pocketed $3,600 from it. What a stand-up human being. How can anyone defend this piece of trash?
All sorts of losers on here are blaming the girls or shaming them for not wearing condoms or doing sufficient research on not-that-famous pro skaters. Unbelievable.
Lastly, it blows my mind that so many skaters are such hardcore fans of this dork. His skinny jeans, weak style and goofy looking face have always put me off to his footage. I give him credit for progressing so much the last few years, but I've never enjoyed his skating. Fuck Johan Stuckey.
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Everyone has agreed he's a scumbag for lying about it you stupid fuck.
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https://www.zumiez.com/wknd-johan-devil-boy-8-0-skateboard-deck.html
Life imitates art? Or art imitates life? That is the question
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Nah I don’t support the KKK lol in truth I am not racist, homophobic, transphobic or anything like that. I get a lot of hate for my opinions which is fair enough as people have the right to disagree with me. I suppose I’ve been getting a lot more hate lately because I don’t really get on board with the whole cancel culture thing and maybe some of my jokes are in bad taste. My only issue with SLAP lately is it seems that a lot of people on here are quick to brand you as dumb or racist or “part of the problem” if you don’t fully agree with their views on certain topics.
it's you and all the other trolls that bring up all this cancel shit all the time in order to make fun of how "sjws" would cancel all these dudes. i bet that 8/10 threads canceling some fucker are made by people that are anti-cancel culture to bait the rest into canceling. you guys are stupid as fuck. i have to laugh so hard all the time it hurts while i'm wearing my gimpsuit, since it's super tight. also all these dudes are pretty much careerless. what is there to cancel with a guy like johan stuckey that needs to scam people for money on gofundme and passes out herpes? dude is broke, mentally and moneywise.
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Of course, dude. Blame the victim. Sometimes when people hear jokes, they think they’re actually jokes.
I get that. But then when your health comes into the equation do you not reconsider.
He told her he was clean. Which a reasonable person can take to mean she would not have if he admitted to not being clean. Which a reasonable person can then take to mean she is aware of the risks of transmission of sti’s through unprotected sex. If she didn’t know about it why would she ask. Thus, the responsibility for (as) safe (as possible) sex is with both parties.
If he raped/date raped/assaulted/roofied then the fault is 100% on dickhead. If she is aware of the risks of transmission of sti’s through unbarricaded sex, then she had an equal role to play. That’s not victim blaming, that’s being reasonable. It’s wearing a mask during a respiratory pandemic.
The fact you’re trying to find a way to make Johan not liable for his actions is preposterous. The fact he know he’s not clean and saying he’s clean is pure scumbaggery at its finest and the dude should be dealt with swiftly and justly. God knows how many other girls he’s done this too. We can argue that it’s not rape but the fact is the dude is out here having unprotected sex saying he’s clean and spreading diseases. Diseases that stay with you for life. Fuck that ugly fucktard and anyone defending him or weekend.
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Nah I don’t support the KKK lol in truth I am not racist, homophobic, transphobic or anything like that. I get a lot of hate for my opinions which is fair enough as people have the right to disagree with me. I suppose I’ve been getting a lot more hate lately because I don’t really get on board with the whole cancel culture thing and maybe some of my jokes are in bad taste. My only issue with SLAP lately is it seems that a lot of people on here are quick to brand you as dumb or racist or “part of the problem” if you don’t fully agree with their views on certain topics.
it's you and all the other trolls that bring up all this cancel shit all the time in order to make fun of how "sjws" would cancel all these dudes. i bet that 8/10 threads canceling some fucker are made by people that are anti-cancel culture to bait the rest into canceling. you guys are stupid as fuck. i have to laugh so hard all the time it hurts while i'm wearing my gimpsuit, since it's super tight. also all these dudes are pretty much careerless. what is there to cancel with a guy like johan stuckey that needs to scam people for money on gofundme and passes out herpes? dude is broke, mentally and moneywise.
I enjoyed the gimpsuit reference. Thanks for the laugh 🤙
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50mm is so far up Johan's ass that hes getting support from some of the biggest right-wing loser trolls on this forum. Amazing.
To date, Johan has said the n word, lied to girls about his std's (and willingly gave them herpes, chlamydia, gonnorhea), faked a GoFundMe for his dog that wasn't sick and pocketed $3,600 from it. What a stand-up human being. How can anyone defend this piece of trash?
All sorts of losers on here are blaming the girls or shaming them for not wearing condoms or doing sufficient research on not-that-famous pro skaters. Unbelievable.
Lastly, it blows my mind that so many skaters are such hardcore fans of this dork. His skinny jeans, weak style and goofy looking face have always put me off to his footage. I give him credit for progressing so much the last few years, but I've never enjoyed his skating. Fuck Johan Stuckey.
Everyone has agreed he's a scumbag for lying about it you stupid fuck.
"He's a scumbag" and "he's a scumbag, but..." are different things. Maybe you know this, but you're just physically and mentally fatigued from annihilating your little purple rage boner ever since 50mm posted a few incoherent novels in this thread. Drink some water and rest up.
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50mm is so far up Johan's ass that hes getting support from some of the biggest right-wing loser trolls on this forum. Amazing.
To date, Johan has said the n word, lied to girls about his std's (and willingly gave them herpes, chlamydia, gonnorhea), faked a GoFundMe for his dog that wasn't sick and pocketed $3,600 from it. What a stand-up human being. How can anyone defend this piece of trash?
All sorts of losers on here are blaming the girls or shaming them for not wearing condoms or doing sufficient research on not-that-famous pro skaters. Unbelievable.
Lastly, it blows my mind that so many skaters are such hardcore fans of this dork. His skinny jeans, weak style and goofy looking face have always put me off to his footage. I give him credit for progressing so much the last few years, but I've never enjoyed his skating. Fuck Johan Stuckey.
Everyone has agreed he's a scumbag for lying about it you stupid fuck.
"He's a scumbag" and "he's a scumbag, but..." are different things. Maybe you know this, but you're just physically and mentally fatigued from annihilating your little purple rage boner ever since 50mm posted a few incoherent novels in this thread. Drink some water and rest up.
I've already told you before your opinion means shit to me.
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Man, I'm a big Johan fan but that's some cold shit to knowingly have herpes and denying it twice, (almost 3 times like Peter denying knowing Christ), then giving it to someone. I mean, unpopular opinion, but the fucking moron should have never admitted to it. This to me isn't me too shit though, this is just personal stuff getting blown up, and fair enough if you want to blow someone up, but it's just a line is drawn at a certain point. What was the joke from the roast? Did they address this specific situation or just make fun of his herpes?
It's kind of like my girlfriend was showing me a fucking tik-tok of Mia Khalifa (not porn...this time) this past weekend. She (Mia) is recording herself next to a laptop of some fat whale reading a script saying "Say it with me, Mia Khalifa only did porn for 3 months and was only paid 12 thousand dollars for her work... blah blah blah". I instantly flew into a rage and said what the fuck is the point of this? She only did it 3 months? Who gives a fuck? Is someone walking around swearing she did it 12 years? She only got paid 12 thousands dollars? Why do I give a fuck and why is it anybody elses fault that she wishes she made more money? She signed up to do porn, which she knew the public would see. She was already popular on reddit before bangbros so why the fuck is it anybodys problem that she can't come to terms with the fact that she did porn and she regrets it? Side note, my girl was just showing me the latest drama and agreed with me.
There's a lot of bullshit going around right now where every wrong a woman has experienced is something that the whole world needs to hear and someone else needs to be attacked for. Mia Khalifa agreed to get fucked on one of the most famous pornsites ever and because she did it for just 3 months and made 12 grand it's bangbros fault that she regrets it?
Sorry to go on a tangent, but I am close with a lot of women that have been sexually assaulted or something similar and I hate hearing some famous person trying to get a piece of attention for something that is a non-story.
I think this situation is fucked up and is a personal thing, but it's out there now and it is fucked up and wrong to lie about that kind of thing. It's also common sense to use protection no matter what, we are all pretty much taught that since we're 16 even if we don't all do it, and if you are stripping on instagram you probably know that too. At this point it's just exposing any wrong that any public figure did for some type of exposure.
Remember 2 months ago when Heath was getting cancelled for beating up that dude on his birthday but right after that Nakel did the video and the Heath thing feels like nothing now. I firmly believe everyone has some skeleton in their closet that if you were famous, and someone exposed it, you would get fucked depending on how it was done. From people using the n word minus the "hard r" 10 years ago, to someone doing some freaky shit or making an inappropriate joke.
Sometimes I'm tired as fuck and dont want to have sex and my girlfriend will start touching me after I say I'm tired, am I raped if I eventually got hard and took her to pound town. I'm also going to need more context on he pushed her head down forcibly, I might be commiting sexual assault on a weekly basis and will need to get a safety waiver and release of liability drawn up to protect myself in case I ever get exposed on SLAP and my girl tries to cancel me.
Don't forget backing a literal war criminal. That was a big one.
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50mm is so far up Johan's ass that hes getting support from some of the biggest right-wing loser trolls on this forum. Amazing.
To date, Johan has said the n word, lied to girls about his std's (and willingly gave them herpes, chlamydia, gonnorhea), faked a GoFundMe for his dog that wasn't sick and pocketed $3,600 from it. What a stand-up human being. How can anyone defend this piece of trash?
All sorts of losers on here are blaming the girls or shaming them for not wearing condoms or doing sufficient research on not-that-famous pro skaters. Unbelievable.
Lastly, it blows my mind that so many skaters are such hardcore fans of this dork. His skinny jeans, weak style and goofy looking face have always put me off to his footage. I give him credit for progressing so much the last few years, but I've never enjoyed his skating. Fuck Johan Stuckey.
Not really. I actually said he's one of my favorites, and now I think he's a scumbag, I should have said WAS one of my favorites I guess. I said I had a shirt of his that I wont wear outside of home but will hold onto because I don't want to waste one of my only good shirts that can keep me warm. I said him lying is wrong and scummy. And yes I said the chick should have been smarter than to just ask someone but I also said that doesn't mean it's her fault. I didn't see anything about an N word being tossed around so I don't know what you're talking about, I don't know if the dog thing is true besides one random person making a post on here saying it is so I'm not just going to assume it is unless they give some proof or give details on how they know.
And yes I talked about women using metoo to just jump on the bandwagon of shit that isn't all that serious, because I think it's true, and I understand people disagreeing with that. But I gave examples of why I think it is abused at times and some of my own personal experiences. I didn't disregard it fully. To be fair I didn't read the page until just now with the chick with the police report and stuff. But I also roll my eyes when she says she hung out with him multiple times, where they would drink and fuck, but everytime she wakes up not sure of what all happened and felt weird, each time, and does it several times. To me I just think why the fuck do you keep doing it. But I don't think, well it's your fault.
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The skeez factor is of the charts and on brand. I don’t know why continued to read beyond the solid typos and this gem:
I know I've shared this before in here but it was a while ago so I'll drop it again because it's hilarious:
My best pal spent 5 years in Terminal Island Prison and in there if you were HIV+ they called you Batman Forever.
I do feel bad for the local LA local though. If you know you’re carrying and do not disclose this information to whoever you’re exchanging precious fluids with, ya might be a sociopath.
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Fuck me a lot of you guys have really fucked up and toxic views about women and consent. Do none of you have female partners, sisters or daughters?
Put yourself in her position, she gave consent but it's not informed consent if he's lying to her about not having STDs. He straight up deceived her.
I've been pretty on the fence about a lot of this cancelling people stuff but this one is clear as day. This fucker is a grotesque human who our industry should want nothing to do with regardless of his skateboarding abilities.
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Wouldn’t be surprised if 45% of pro skaters knowingly have an std and gave to a woman without telling them first.
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How many now
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Definitely not victim blaming but many things happened over a week ago, including my 12th birthday, 9/11, Pearl Harbor, The Beatles going on Ed Sullivan...
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The hrps wknd is dope.
Yesterday’s, roastb, and spacetravel are all the same.
Frank is right: all of these ‘cancelled’ threads are just pure shitbag trying to distract from real problems.
I am fucking shocked anyone was a fan of Johan, before this. How he’s had more than 5 minutes is truly wild. The whole brand....kind of hipstery everyman, seems like a lot of that is predicated on being cool/decent. That is clearly not the case.
The victim blaming needs to stop.
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How many now
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not the last one you'll hear about.
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http://www.instagram.com/p/CCIBp9SDVFf/?igshid=uoozhnmml7l9
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Must suck to have to put out two big apologies in like a week and a half. Might even mean you’re a piece of shit.
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Must suck to have to put out two big apologies in like a week and a half. Might even mean you’re a piece of shit.
I think we can all put differences aside and agree he is a piece of shit on this one.
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http://www.instagram.com/p/CCIDYJzJDYE/?igshid=160fy021nuwvu
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respect to WKND
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http://www.instagram.com/p/CCIDYJzJDYE/?igshid=160fy021nuwvu
They sure as hell knew and made light of it. They're just mad they got caught. Every man for himself .
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I never felt like watching a boring ass roast video, they talked about him giving herpes to chicks or just made fun of him having herpes?
What a fucking moron. Remember when people lost sponsors for not being a good skater anymore. Imagine being good and losing it and having your herpes infestation be at the center of discussion. Fucking a. Why even lie to someone and then tell the truth later??
Must suck to have to put out two big apologies in like a week and a half. Might even mean you’re a piece of shit.
What was the other apology??
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50mm is so far up Johan's ass that hes getting support from some of the biggest right-wing loser trolls on this forum. Amazing.
To date, Johan has said the n word, lied to girls about his std's (and willingly gave them herpes, chlamydia, gonnorhea), faked a GoFundMe for his dog that wasn't sick and pocketed $3,600 from it. What a stand-up human being. How can anyone defend this piece of trash?
All sorts of losers on here are blaming the girls or shaming them for not wearing condoms or doing sufficient research on not-that-famous pro skaters. Unbelievable.
Lastly, it blows my mind that so many skaters are such hardcore fans of this dork. His skinny jeans, weak style and goofy looking face have always put me off to his footage. I give him credit for progressing so much the last few years, but I've never enjoyed his skating. Fuck Johan Stuckey.
Jesus Christ you are an absolute piece of fucking trash. She straight up asked this bum if he had been tested. If he was clean. He lied to her face. What fucking more research should she have had to have done in that moment? Fucking swab the nigga ball sack, urethra and cheek? The fuck??? You out here giving girls the herp too? You're garbage kid.
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I never felt like watching a boring ass roast video, they talked about him giving herpes to chicks or just made fun of him having herpes?
What a fucking moron. Remember when people lost sponsors for not being a good skater anymore. Imagine being good and losing it and having your herpes infestation be at the center of discussion. Fucking a. Why even lie to someone and then tell the truth later??
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Must suck to have to put out two big apologies in like a week and a half. Might even mean you’re a piece of shit.
Grant: I went for a BFA in film and Johan went for an STD and my meal plan.
Bob: Johan's like Santa Claus. Every girl that sits on his lap gets something.
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=111453.0
A couple of weeks back it came out that Johan called one his friends a White N word on some video or other. The video was taken down and he did a one of account here to apologize for it. That seemed at the time to take care of it as the apology seemed genuine.
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To recap,
A girl had consensual, unprotected sex with a dude who knowingly had herpes and did not disclose.
If he did disclose, the girl most likely would not have consented.
The dude lied to get his dick wet and infected her.
Yet the first reaction of so many guys here is to talk about how she rolled the dice, and it’s her fault, TOTALLY MISSING THE MAIN PROBLEM OF THE DUDE LYING AND KNOWINGLY INFECTING SOMEONE WHO TRUSTED THEM.
And then, regale is with stories of how women can’t be trusted, as if that has any fucking bearing on the situation at hand.
If you are being shit on for these opinions, it’s because in your view, the most pressing matter is what the girl did wrong, NOT the obvious problem of lying and infecting someone.
Yes, we all agree that you ‘shouldn’t’ go raw with someone you just met. But I’ve rolled the dice, as have many of us. Because we trusted the other person.
This is all on Johan, (and his increasingly visible history of this behavior).
Don’t get it twisted.
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http://www.instagram.com/p/CCIDYJzJDYE/?igshid=160fy021nuwvu
Crazy that I got proven wrong in a matter of hours. I said Emily should totally just sue him because there’s no way WKND will kick him off.
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I never felt like watching a boring ass roast video, they talked about him giving herpes to chicks or just made fun of him having herpes?
What a fucking moron. Remember when people lost sponsors for not being a good skater anymore. Imagine being good and losing it and having your herpes infestation be at the center of discussion. Fucking a. Why even lie to someone and then tell the truth later??
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Must suck to have to put out two big apologies in like a week and a half. Might even mean you’re a piece of shit.
Bob: Johan's like Santa Claus. Every girl that sits on his lap gets something.
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=111453.0
A couple of weeks back it came out that Johan called one his friends a White N word on some video or other. The video was taken down and he did a one of account here to apologize for it. That seemed at the time to take care of it as the apology seemed genuine.
Goddamn, I hate skatetalk bob. I liked the wknd ad they made with him for Trevor getting on the team, but I can't even let that slide in my sig anymore.
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Even my girlfriend is bummed on Johan's dumbass. She said she thinks you should never trust what a dude says but she could understand trusting him because he looks like a person who doesn't get laid to begin with lol.
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WKND claiming that none of them knew in the comments. The fuck out of here....
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Even my girlfriend is bummed on Johan's dumbass. She said she thinks you should never trust what a dude says but she could understand trusting him because he looks like a person who doesn't get laid to begin with lol.
I think your girlfriend successfully articulated what that dude's general appeal was
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Lol johan posted an apology on his page and in the comments someone wrote that austyn has the herp too lol.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CCIBp9SDVFf/?igshid=1w3270fac66q5
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Yo im gonna keep it real, this whole situation really teaches me something..ive rolled the dice quite a few times and i honestly think im not gonna fuck around like that anymore..
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I never felt like watching a boring ass roast video, they talked about him giving herpes to chicks or just made fun of him having herpes?
What a fucking moron. Remember when people lost sponsors for not being a good skater anymore. Imagine being good and losing it and having your herpes infestation be at the center of discussion. Fucking a. Why even lie to someone and then tell the truth later??
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Must suck to have to put out two big apologies in like a week and a half. Might even mean you’re a piece of shit.
Bob: Johan's like Santa Claus. Every girl that sits on his lap gets something.
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=111453.0
A couple of weeks back it came out that Johan called one his friends a White N word on some video or other. The video was taken down and he did a one of account here to apologize for it. That seemed at the time to take care of it as the apology seemed genuine.
https://instagram.com/loudfemme?igshid=2q52mx69meuf (https://instagram.com/loudfemme?igshid=2q52mx69meuf)
Watch the stories from this account. The std jokes. Wknd had no idea yeah right
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LOL @ WKND pretending to actually give a fuck about this, kicking Johan off is just for optics. This is just the crew trying to cover their asses for knowing about and making light of all this shit for so long.
Anyway, fuck Johan and that absolutely embarrassingly weak apology. 3rd grade reading level ass attempt at PR damage control.
I see he is rolling with the excuse that he was "embarrassed" about his disease and is using that as a shield for the darker implications of his behavior. The fact that multiple women are coming forward with similar allegations, the fact that he explicitly played dumb about having an std in order to get unprotected sex, and the fact that he aggressively pursued sex while it was clear she wasn't feeling it point to a pathological behavioral pattern that's deeply disturbing. I have a feeling more women will be coming forward in the very near future.
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If you have an active cold sore and you go down on a girl and vice versa you can give them/get genital herpes right?
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Oh you absolutely can. My girl at the time and I, many years ago, took another lady into our room for love times. I ended up with face herpes but my ex contracted them downstairs. When they came on she was in SERIOUS pain for days. Brutal to watch.
I then passed them on to another gf's asshole, as I had no idea that I had a small sore in my mouth. Highly contagious is herpes. Be careful out there.
Also, fuck this guy.
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LOL @ WKND pretending to actually give a fuck about this, kicking Johan off is just for optics. This is just the crew trying to cover their asses for knowing about and making light of all this shit for so long.
Anyway, fuck Johan and that absolutely embarrassingly weak apology. 3rd grade reading level ass attempt at PR damage control.
I see he is rolling with the excuse that he was "embarrassed" about his disease and is using that as a shield for the darker implications of his behavior. The fact that multiple women are coming forward with similar allegations, the fact that he explicitly played dumb about having an std in order to get unprotected sex, and the fact that he aggressively pursued sex while it was clear she wasn't feeling it point to a pathological behavioral pattern that's deeply disturbing. I have a feeling more women will be coming forward in the very near future.
Was just discussing this with my girlfriend. I’m sure half the people in here think I am full of shit but I said a couple posts ago I didn’t know about the police reports. I didn’t read every page of the thread. But the apology to Instagram but not the actual girl is dumb and I don’t get why people ever do that shit. A long ass apology is always someone trying to get you to feel for them. The perfect apology is apologizing to the person you hurt, then because you have to address it you just gotta say something short, “I did a lot of fucked up stuff that has come to light this week. I’m sorry to everyone I let down and there’s nothing to say because there isn’t an excuse.”
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They sure as hell knew and made light of it. They're just mad they got caught. Every man for himself .
I kinda have to agree here and herein lies the problem with calling all these arseholes out; they only really apologize when/ if they get caught and if they think it will somehow affect their sales/ careers (hard glances at 10/10).
Don’t get me wrong I’m all for people evolving and learning from their past mistakes, but making fake apologies on Instagram is basically the 2020 equivalent of getting caught by your mum when you’re a kid and apologizing even though you don’t really mean it, nor do you actually intend to make any changes to your behavior.
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sorry g’s if you already brought this up but wtfs the deal with jamal gibbs? heard he got accused of bein a full blown r^pist and i havent heard anything else abt it
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sorry g’s if you already brought this up but wtfs the deal with jamal gibbs? heard he got accused of bein a full blown r^pist and i havent heard anything else abt it
There you are.
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=111345.0
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LOL @ WKND pretending to actually give a fuck about this, kicking Johan off is just for optics. This is just the crew trying to cover their asses for knowing about and making light of all this shit for so long.
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WKND's insta is in full damage control/panic mode right now, and out right denying that they knew about/joked about the situation despite being fairly relentlessly called out for it. Would screenshot but I'm a stupid dumb idiot.
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If you have an active cold sore and you go down on a girl and vice versa you can give them/get genital herpes right?
No
Oh you absolutely can. My girl at the time and I, many years ago, took another lady into our room for love times. I ended up with face herpes but my ex contracted them downstairs. When they came on she was in SERIOUS pain for days. Brutal to watch.
I then passed them on to another gf's asshole, as I had no idea that I had a small sore in my mouth. Highly contagious is herpes. Be careful out there.
Also, fuck this guy.
HVS-1 can be passed oral to genital but that doesn't make it HSV-2. It's just likely to show up there the first time and then probably never again. I unknowingly did this to someone earlier this year and felt awful. I've never had a cold sore before and I wasn't tested for it.
BUT to knowingly hide that information from someone is fucking abhorrent and Johan deserves to get the hate.
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LOL @ WKND pretending to actually give a fuck about this, kicking Johan off is just for optics. This is just the crew trying to cover their asses for knowing about and making light of all this shit for so long.
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Bet the dude on the receiving end is questioning himself right now..
Also what’s up Sleez
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Does anyone even give a fuck about WKND or their riders?? Shalom
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WKND's insta is in full damage control/panic mode right now, and out right denying that they knew about/joked about the situation despite being fairly relentlessly called out for it. Would screenshot but I'm a stupid dumb idiot.
Is the argument that the WKND guys knew he had herpes or that they knew that he was infecting women he assured he was clean? That’s an important distinction. The two roast jokes posted appear to me as if they are focusing on him being unclean, not that he’s a sociopath. I’ve had friends with stds but I naturally assumed they behaved with a modicum of decency about and never felt the need to check in about it
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WKND's insta is in full damage control/panic mode right now, and out right denying that they knew about/joked about the situation despite being fairly relentlessly called out for it. Would screenshot but I'm a stupid dumb idiot.
Is the argument that the WKND guys knew he had herpes or that they knew that he was infecting women he assured he was clean? That’s an important distinction. The two roast jokes posted appear to me as if they are focusing on him being unclean, not that he’s a sociopath. I’ve had friends with stds but I naturally assumed they behaved with a modicum of decency about and never felt the need to check in about it
Except one of the jokes is specifically about him infecting women
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WKND's insta is in full damage control/panic mode right now, and out right denying that they knew about/joked about the situation despite being fairly relentlessly called out for it. Would screenshot but I'm a stupid dumb idiot.
Is the argument that the WKND guys knew he had herpes or that they knew that he was infecting women he assured he was clean? That’s an important distinction. The two roast jokes posted appear to me as if they are focusing on him being unclean, not that he’s a sociopath. I’ve had friends with stds but I naturally assumed they behaved with a modicum of decency about and never felt the need to check in about it
Except one of the jokes is specifically about him infecting women
I was a little back and forth on whether that’s just a roast joke or something more to it. I guess I just read it as a joke they made because he had dressed as Santa once for a party.
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he so fuckin ugly he shoulda used 3600 to fix his face i hear they got miracles now motherfuckers dont have to be the goonies freak no more
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im late to the party: are we talking regular herpes or genital herpes (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genital_herpes)?
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She said she had sores on her vagina
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read the thread gimp
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50mm is so far up Johan's ass that hes getting support from some of the biggest right-wing loser trolls on this forum. Amazing.
To date, Johan has said the n word, lied to girls about his std's (and willingly gave them herpes, chlamydia, gonnorhea), faked a GoFundMe for his dog that wasn't sick and pocketed $3,600 from it. What a stand-up human being. How can anyone defend this piece of trash?
All sorts of losers on here are blaming the girls or shaming them for not wearing condoms or doing sufficient research on not-that-famous pro skaters. Unbelievable.
Lastly, it blows my mind that so many skaters are such hardcore fans of this dork. His skinny jeans, weak style and goofy looking face have always put me off to his footage. I give him credit for progressing so much the last few years, but I've never enjoyed his skating. Fuck Johan Stuckey.
Jesus Christ you are an absolute piece of fucking trash. She straight up asked this bum if he had been tested. If he was clean. He lied to her face. What fucking more research should she have had to have done in that moment? Fucking swab the nigga ball sack, urethra and cheek? The fuck??? You out here giving girls the herp too? You're garbage kid.
Sure I’m a piece of trash, whatever you say ass wipe.Just because she asked him if he was clean and he said yes doesn’t mean she wasn’t taking a gamble. In a city like LA if you’re gonna go round having casual unprotected sex with people you just met there’s always gonna be a risk factor. Fuck you, Kook.
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50mm is so far up Johan's ass that hes getting support from some of the biggest right-wing loser trolls on this forum. Amazing.
To date, Johan has said the n word, lied to girls about his std's (and willingly gave them herpes, chlamydia, gonnorhea), faked a GoFundMe for his dog that wasn't sick and pocketed $3,600 from it. What a stand-up human being. How can anyone defend this piece of trash?
All sorts of losers on here are blaming the girls or shaming them for not wearing condoms or doing sufficient research on not-that-famous pro skaters. Unbelievable.
Lastly, it blows my mind that so many skaters are such hardcore fans of this dork. His skinny jeans, weak style and goofy looking face have always put me off to his footage. I give him credit for progressing so much the last few years, but I've never enjoyed his skating. Fuck Johan Stuckey.
Everyone has agreed he's a scumbag for lying about it you stupid fuck.
"He's a scumbag" and "he's a scumbag, but..." are different things. Maybe you know this, but you're just physically and mentally fatigued from annihilating your little purple rage boner ever since 50mm posted a few incoherent novels in this thread. Drink some water and rest up.
Do you get a little purple rage boner over yourself? You’re the most self righteous ball bag on this forum, keep you’re patronising bullshit to yourself from now on you fucking gimp. Ignored.
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50mm is so far up Johan's ass that hes getting support from some of the biggest right-wing loser trolls on this forum. Amazing.
To date, Johan has said the n word, lied to girls about his std's (and willingly gave them herpes, chlamydia, gonnorhea), faked a GoFundMe for his dog that wasn't sick and pocketed $3,600 from it. What a stand-up human being. How can anyone defend this piece of trash?
All sorts of losers on here are blaming the girls or shaming them for not wearing condoms or doing sufficient research on not-that-famous pro skaters. Unbelievable.
Lastly, it blows my mind that so many skaters are such hardcore fans of this dork. His skinny jeans, weak style and goofy looking face have always put me off to his footage. I give him credit for progressing so much the last few years, but I've never enjoyed his skating. Fuck Johan Stuckey.
Everyone has agreed he's a scumbag for lying about it you stupid fuck.
"He's a scumbag" and "he's a scumbag, but..." are different things. Maybe you know this, but you're just physically and mentally fatigued from annihilating your little purple rage boner ever since 50mm posted a few incoherent novels in this thread. Drink some water and rest up.
You really showed him whos boss. You go girlfriend
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Johan Biden for President 2020
I have a hard time believing his accuser, women lie about this shit all the time. Oh yeah, BLM and ACAB
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He has done this to MANY girls......all got them infected.......
WKND joked about this in the roast, which they have now taken down..........
Emily was SILENCED over a year ago when she first came out against Johan.......
When Johan Stuckey was meant to have a premiere for his video, she came out AGAINST him and notified the venue......
They cancelled the premiere and had it in another venue instead. WKND bullied her into retracting what she said and silenced her.....
For what? A skate video?
If you support WKND and Johan Stuckey after this, you're part of the problem.
Dammit grant (https://i.imgur.com/CghvrDy.jpg)
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He has done this to MANY girls......all got them infected.......
WKND joked about this in the roast, which they have now taken down..........
Emily was SILENCED over a year ago when she first came out against Johan.......
When Johan Stuckey was meant to have a premiere for his video, she came out AGAINST him and notified the venue......
They cancelled the premiere and had it in another venue instead. WKND bullied her into retracting what she said and silenced her.....
For what? A skate video?
If you support WKND and Johan Stuckey after this, you're part of the problem.
(https://i.imgur.com/Pvi29Ew.jpg)
Geez a sex creep having a party at Tenant of the Trees is a little on the nose
(for non East LA people, place was a notorious roofie spot when it opened)
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Jesus this is getting bad. Fuck Johan and fuck WKND for shielding him.
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Hope the bitch dies of AIDS
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Hope the bitch dies of AIDS
whats up johan
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there are some missing words in Emilys post, which I think where the actual rape part potentially comes in. between the 2nd and 3rd photo, the sentence reads: "We eventually start hooking up and he ... down to give him a blow job [more words]".
If the ... is "pushed", "forced" or any other word like that, then it is in fact rape.
If the ... is "asked if i could suck him and i went" then it's not rape.
giving someone stds as far as im aware isn't rape, but it's fucking beyond dumb. "oh im so scared to tell anyone" - well you fucking dumbass should go near women until you're comfortable talking about what you're about to give them, especially if that thing is hsv2 that thing that can increase the chance of cancer. no wonder gonorrhea is becoming resistant when you have idiots like johan running around without the balls to fucking deal with it.
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there are some missing words in Emilys post, which I think where the actual rape part potentially comes in. between the 2nd and 3rd photo, the sentence reads: "We eventually start hooking up and he ... down to give him a blow job [more words]".
If the ... is "pushed", "forced" or any other word like that, then it is in fact rape.
If the ... is "asked if i could suck him and i went" then it's not rape.
giving someone stds as far as im aware isn't rape, but it's fucking beyond dumb. "oh im so scared to tell anyone" - well you fucking dumbass should go near women until you're comfortable talking about what you're about to give them, especially if that thing is hsv2 that thing that can increase the chance of cancer. no wonder gonorrhea is becoming resistant when you have idiots like johan running around without the balls to fucking deal with it.
Yeah the missing part you are referring to was on her Instagram story, it basically says that he forced her head down to give him a blow job after they’d already had vaginal intercourse.
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Johan Biden for President 2020
I have a hard time believing his accuser, women lie about this shit all the time. Oh yeah, BLM and ACAB
Please focus yourself..theres multiple screen shots and other women coming forward..
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can we talk about how the word "cancelled" can be spelled with one or two "L"s and still be correct? plz discuss
You should be canceled/cancelled for the lack of an apostrophe in your user name.
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can we talk about how the word "cancelled" can be spelled with one or two "L"s and still be correct? plz discuss
You should be canceled/cancelled for the lack of an apostrophe in your user name.
i agree, but if you're going to cancel me at least be a real man and start a new thread about it
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all the WKND dudes knew about it, theres literally no doubt. this has been happening since before WKND was a thing
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can someone give me a recap please?
I really didn't follow this.
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can someone give me a recap please?
I really didn't follow this.
What happened :o
Johan gave a striper herpes without her knowing.
She made a few Instagram story about it and peppered in a rape allegation for good measure.
He gets cancelled, WKND drops him.
The final twist in the tail, is apparently WKND knew he had herpes. So now they are bad too.
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can someone give me a recap please?
I really didn't follow this.
What happened :o
Johan and some chick had sex a few times only he lied about being clean when he knew he had herpes. His excuse was that he was on medicine and had no outbreaks at the time. The chick then airs him out and starts calling him a rapist then the angry mob happened then wknd tried to cover their asses by kicking Johan off the team.
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I never felt like watching a boring ass roast video, they talked about him giving herpes to chicks or just made fun of him having herpes?
What a fucking moron. Remember when people lost sponsors for not being a good skater anymore. Imagine being good and losing it and having your herpes infestation be at the center of discussion. Fucking a. Why even lie to someone and then tell the truth later??
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Must suck to have to put out two big apologies in like a week and a half. Might even mean you’re a piece of shit.
Bob: Johan's like Santa Claus. Every girl that sits on his lap gets something.
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=111453.0
A couple of weeks back it came out that Johan called one his friends a White N word on some video or other. The video was taken down and he did a one of account here to apologize for it. That seemed at the time to take care of it as the apology seemed genuine.
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Half assed bullshit generic Instagram apology. To many of those these days. “I’m bettering myself every day”. Yeah ok. Fuck that piece of shit. God knows how many girls he gave herpes and now they have that shit for life. Fuck WKND too. They’re just trying to save face now.
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WKND lasted too long anyways, they are a wack supreme copycat
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can someone give me a recap please?
I really didn't follow this.
What happened :o
Two retards fucked.
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can someone give me a recap please?
I really didn't follow this.
What happened :o
Two retards fucked.
this
if we're going with that analogy then pardon my english but, one of these retards has been fucking retards and other non-regular people with the knowledge that he's spreading a disease. one may consider him to be the bigger person and in theory, his victims are indeed victims and not regular.
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He has done this to MANY girls......all got them infected.......
WKND joked about this in the roast, which they have now taken down..........
Emily was SILENCED over a year ago when she first came out against Johan.......
When Johan Stuckey was meant to have a premiere for his video, she came out AGAINST him and notified the venue......
They cancelled the premiere and had it in another venue instead. WKND bullied her into retracting what she said and silenced her.....
For what? A skate video?
If you support WKND and Johan Stuckey after this, you're part of the problem.
(https://i.imgur.com/Pvi29Ew.jpg)
Geez a sex creep having a party at Tenant of the Trees is a little on the nose
(for non East LA people, place was a notorious roofie spot when it opened)
Also notoriously racist about letting black people and the people there are so fucking lame.
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LOL @ WKND pretending to actually give a fuck about this, kicking Johan off is just for optics. This is just the crew trying to cover their asses for knowing about and making light of all this shit for so long.
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Bet the dude on the receiving end is questioning himself right now..
Also what’s up Sleez
Not that this really Means anything .....but that’s Jamal Gibbs in the background in the purple shirt behind Johan haha. Interesting coincidence considering he’s in the news right now too .....
He was still flow for WKND at the time
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Half assed bullshit generic Instagram apology. To many of those these days. “I’m bettering myself every day”. Yeah ok. Fuck that piece of shit. God knows how many girls he gave herpes and now they have that shit for life. Fuck WKND too. They’re just trying to save face now.
dingdingfuckin ding this it sloth from goonies thinks he can use a apology template in a story and this will go away
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LOL @ WKND pretending to actually give a fuck about this, kicking Johan off is just for optics. This is just the crew trying to cover their asses for knowing about and making light of all this shit for so long.
(https://media2.giphy.com/media/VEhpNkyyA6ji7XZoel/giphy.gif)
Bet the dude on the receiving end is questioning himself right now..
Also what’s up Sleez
Not that this really Means anything .....but that’s Jamal Gibbs in the background in the purple shirt behind Johan haha. Interesting coincidence considering he’s in the news right now too .....
He was still flow for WKND at the time
Shouldn’t be too hard to draw lines connecting these two to the reptilian overlords’ demonic sacrifice rituals at this point. Johan is the Keymaster & Jamal is the Gatekeeper.
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So does this elevate Jimmy Bitches to hero status retroactively for whooping Grant's ass every time he saw him?
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The whole "I was so ashamed" excuse is fucking pathetic and just bullshit. He wasn't ashamed - Herpes is incredibly common and talked about openly in L.A. ...He didn't lie because he was ashamed, he lied because he thought if he admitted it, that girls would not touch his dick, and to him that was just unfair. This is entitlement. A man thinking he is entitled to sex and therefore can rightly say whatever he wants to or feels he needs to in order to get the sex he wants, the way he wants it - without protection. Fuck this guy and fuck the lies coming out of WKND about not knowing about it... you idiots put that shit on tape. You knew. Own up.
Johan should take his dirty cock and junior high dating mentality back to Florida. We have enough transplants in LA that aren't complete pieces of shit.
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Johan Stuck-me-with-herpes-gonorrhea-chlamydia
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he clips his sores with a toenail cutter fam most likely collects them in a jar and names them too he like dahmer but uglier
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Ive always expected skaters to have the right takes on everything most of my life. But I forgot about all the clowns I grew up around and just realized they still post on slap
Aren’t you shaming him for his issue if anything? You wouldn’t call out someone with aids, would you?
I love when pc culture contradicts itself
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ay goof if someone with aids goes around infecting women knowingly ya they would get shit on how is that even a question also you ugly
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can someone give me a recap please?
I really didn't follow this.
What happened :o
Two retards fucked.
this
if we're going with that analogy then pardon my english but, one of these retards has been fucking retards and other non-regular people with the knowledge that he's spreading a disease. one may consider him to be the bigger person and in theory, his victims are indeed victims and not regular.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
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Johan Stuck-me-with-herpes-gonorrhea-chlamydia
I could see him on Pokémon.
Gotta catch ‘em all.
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Johan Stuck-me-with-herpes-gonorrhea-chlamydia
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Anyone want to photo shop johans head on either adventures in babysitting movie poster or don’t tell mom the babysitters dead.
Extra points for it to say canceling in babysitting or don’t tell mom the babysitters canceled
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We need to close Florida’s borders already man wtf...Johan yucky😂😂😂 they would say the craziest shit on skate talk..I remember a story on skate talk where Johan and grant we’re talking shit on the owner of rip and dip and Johan called him a white n*****...those wknd/hrps boys are trash
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can someone give me a recap please?
I really didn't follow this.
What happened :o
Johan gave a striper herpes without her knowing.
She made a few Instagram story about it and peppered in a rape allegation for good measure.
He gets cancelled, WKND drops him.
The final twist in the tail, is apparently WKND knew he had herpes. So now they are bad too.
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can someone give me a recap please?
I really didn't follow this.
What happened :o
Johan and some chick had sex a few times only he lied about being clean when he knew he had herpes. His excuse was that he was on medicine and had no outbreaks at the time. The chick then airs him out and starts calling him a rapist then the angry mob happened then wknd tried to cover their asses by kicking Johan off the team.
Lol these might be the two worst hot-takes i've read yet.
Johan lied to her about being clean, therefore she could not provide consent in a fully informed way. No consent = rape.
Additionally, Johan forced her head down to give him oral sex. That's also rape.
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Side note- but if WKND goes under how sick would it be to see Jordan Taylor on Hockey?
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can someone give me a recap please?
I really didn't follow this.
What happened :o
Johan gave a striper herpes without her knowing.
She made a few Instagram story about it and peppered in a rape allegation for good measure.
He gets cancelled, WKND drops him.
The final twist in the tail, is apparently WKND knew he had herpes. So now they are bad too.
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can someone give me a recap please?
I really didn't follow this.
What happened :o
Johan and some chick had sex a few times only he lied about being clean when he knew he had herpes. His excuse was that he was on medicine and had no outbreaks at the time. The chick then airs him out and starts calling him a rapist then the angry mob happened then wknd tried to cover their asses by kicking Johan off the team.
Lol these might be the two worst hot-takes i've read yet.
Johan lied to her about being clean, therefore she could not provide consent in a fully informed way. No consent = rape.
Additionally, Johan forced her head down to give him oral sex. That's also rape.
that is definetly not rape. not even trying to defend this weirdo.
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it might be debatable if coercing someone into sex or fabricating consent through lies is down right rape. it's certainly a form of sexual assault. it would be different if stuckey really didn't know he had herpes and operated under that assumption. but we know that even his teammates knew about it. he was asked by his victims about illnesses and lied to make them consent.
that shit isn' just career end worthy, it's jail worthy. dude passed out an uncurable disease and didn't give a damn, only cared for his sore plagued willy to get wet.
good riddance
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We need to close Florida’s borders already man wtf...Johan yucky😂😂😂 they would say the craziest shit on skate talk..I remember a story on skate talk where Johan and grant we’re talking shit on the owner of rip and dip and Johan called him a white n*****...those wknd/hrps boys are trash
Chill with the emojis homie we understand
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We need to close Florida’s borders already man wtf...Johan yucky😂😂😂 they would say the craziest shit on skate talk..I remember a story on skate talk where Johan and grant we’re talking shit on the owner of rip and dip and Johan called him a white n*****...those wknd/hrps boys are trash
Chill with the emojis homie we understand
Shut up you fucking stupid ass bitch 🤓🤓💯💯😭
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We need to close Florida’s borders already man wtf...Johan yucky😂😂😂 they would say the craziest shit on skate talk..I remember a story on skate talk where Johan and grant we’re talking shit on the owner of rip and dip and Johan called him a white n*****...those wknd/hrps boys are trash
Chill with the emojis homie we understand
Shut up you fucking stupid ass bitch 🤓🤓💯💯😭
He was only tryin’ to help you, fucking stupid ass bitch.
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Anti-emoji people are kooks. Facts.
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We need to close Florida’s borders already man wtf...Johan yucky😂😂😂 they would say the craziest shit on skate talk..I remember a story on skate talk where Johan and grant we’re talking shit on the owner of rip and dip and Johan called him a white n*****...those wknd/hrps boys are trash
Chill with the emojis homie we understand
Shut up you fucking stupid ass bitch 🤓🤓💯💯😭
He was only tryin’ to help you, fucking stupid ass bitch.
😂😂😂I Didn’t know slap was so anti emoji..now I’ll never stop...like joho’s herpes I’m always coming back 😈😈😈😈...oh yeah i was listening to a podcast where Fred durst Tallis about how his son cancels him everyday...😢😢 kinda sad...
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can someone give me a recap please?
I really didn't follow this.
What happened :o
Johan gave a striper herpes without her knowing.
She made a few Instagram story about it and peppered in a rape allegation for good measure.
He gets cancelled, WKND drops him.
The final twist in the tail, is apparently WKND knew he had herpes. So now they are bad too.
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can someone give me a recap please?
I really didn't follow this.
What happened :o
Johan and some chick had sex a few times only he lied about being clean when he knew he had herpes. His excuse was that he was on medicine and had no outbreaks at the time. The chick then airs him out and starts calling him a rapist then the angry mob happened then wknd tried to cover their asses by kicking Johan off the team.
Lol these might be the two worst hot-takes i've read yet.
Johan lied to her about being clean, therefore she could not provide consent in a fully informed way. No consent = rape.
Additionally, Johan forced her head down to give him oral sex. That's also rape.
I know your trolling
Please don't de mean rape victims with this fucking bullshit.
An ex girlfriend of mine had been raped very badly. So badly it was attempted murder and the perpetrator got 10 years. It has changed her whole life.
It makes a mockery of rape victims that attention seeking morons put up these pathetic Instagram stories. Or people equate not disclosing an sti as rape.
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I’m going to say it is misogynistic to assume women can’t be responsible for protecting themselves during consensual sex.
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I’m going to say it is misogynistic to assume women can’t be responsible for protecting themselves during consensual sex.
it's not real consent when based on lies. should she have insisted on using a condom? wouldn't that be the job of the person actually carrying an std? if i had genital herpes, i probably wouldn't want to disclose it either with a potential sex partner, but i would insist on wearing protection under the motto "better safe than sorry, for both of us, just in case".
also mind that it was johan putting the pressure on for having sex from all we know.
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I’m going to say it is misogynistic to assume women can’t be responsible for protecting themselves during consensual sex.
And I'm going to say you're missing the fucking point you dumbass and obviously have no idea what is or is not misogynistic. Please, tell us how Black Lives Matter is racist against white people while you're at it.
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Anti-emoji people are kooks. Facts.
Time and place.
Writing ‘Facts.’ After your own comment is muchC much worse.
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I’m going to say it is misogynistic to assume women can’t be responsible for protecting themselves during consensual sex.
it's not real consent when based on lies. should she have insisted on using a condom? wouldn't that be the job of the person actually carrying an std? if i had genital herpes, i probably wouldn't want to disclose it either with a potential sex partner, but i would insist on wearing protection under the motto "better safe than sorry, for both of us, just in case".
also mind that it was johan putting the pressure on for having sex from all we know.
It’s your health. If you want to leave your health in other peoples hands then go for it. But don’t cry when you’re affected.
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We need to close Florida’s borders already man wtf...Johan yucky😂😂😂 they would say the craziest shit on skate talk..I remember a story on skate talk where Johan and grant we’re talking shit on the owner of rip and dip and Johan called him a white n*****...those wknd/hrps boys are trash
Chill with the emojis homie we understand
Shut up you fucking stupid ass bitch 🤓🤓💯💯😭
He was only tryin’ to help you, fucking stupid ass bitch.
😂😂😂I Didn’t know slap was so anti emoji..now I’ll never stop...like joho’s herpes I’m always coming back 😈😈😈😈...oh yeah i was listening to a podcast where Fred durst Tallis about how his son cancels him everyday...😢😢 kinda sad...
You should get one of those sweet shirts from wal mart with the emoji faces and funny little saying on it. Probably have some cool boxer shorts with the poop emoji on the butt or something too.
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I’m going to say it is misogynistic to assume women can’t be responsible for protecting themselves during consensual sex.
it's not real consent when based on lies. should she have insisted on using a condom? wouldn't that be the job of the person actually carrying an std? if i had genital herpes, i probably wouldn't want to disclose it either with a potential sex partner, but i would insist on wearing protection under the motto "better safe than sorry, for both of us, just in case".
also mind that it was johan putting the pressure on for having sex from all we know.
It’s your health. If you want to leave your health in other peoples hands then go for it. But don’t cry when you’re affected.
what is trust in regards to human relations then? pretty much worthless according to you.
guys like you talk tough but if it happens to you because you raw dog the wrong one i'd bet you'd call the person infecting you out and deny any responsibility.
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I’m going to say it is misogynistic to assume women can’t be responsible for protecting themselves during consensual sex.
it's not real consent when based on lies. should she have insisted on using a condom? wouldn't that be the job of the person actually carrying an std? if i had genital herpes, i probably wouldn't want to disclose it either with a potential sex partner, but i would insist on wearing protection under the motto "better safe than sorry, for both of us, just in case".
also mind that it was johan putting the pressure on for having sex from all we know.
It’s your health. If you want to leave your health in other peoples hands then go for it. But don’t cry when you’re affected.
what is trust in regards to human relations then? pretty much worthless according to you.
guys like you talk tough but if it happens to you because you raw dog the wrong one i'd bet you'd call the person infecting you out and deny any responsibility.
Except I’m not stupid and I don’t “rawdog” women because I am aware of the risks involved. I also wear my seatbelt in a car and eye protection when I use a cut-off wheel. Again, because it is my health and I am responsible for it. I’m not talking tough, I’m being aware and acting appropriately. Trust, but verify. In this case you would verify by quarantining from sex and getting a test. Because that’s how it works. Adults need to be adulting. Pretty fucking simple.
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ok fair enough, if you stick to your philosophy at all times you are entitled to your opinion. we all know this is not how hook ups and emotions work in real life though and awareness and trust aren't mutually exclusive values.
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would the nba get rid of a player if he had herpes and didnt tell girls he hooked up with?
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would the nba get rid of a player if he had herpes and didnt tell girls he hooked up with?
Kobe raped and still got to play or so the legend goes
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would the nba get rid of a player if he had herpes and didnt tell girls he hooked up with?
Well, the team that the player played for might look to move them because their presence could affect ticket sales or cause a distraction on the team.
Possibly.
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im too ugly for anyone to even wanna smash
let alone give me a subaru sti
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would the nba get rid of a player if he had herpes and didnt tell girls he hooked up with?
Kobe raped and still got to play or so the legend goes
I have to believe that if this had happened in today's environment, Kobe would have been possibly traded or something. But maybe not. I dunno.
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I’m going to say it is misogynistic to assume women can’t be responsible for protecting themselves during consensual sex.
it's not real consent when based on lies. should she have insisted on using a condom? wouldn't that be the job of the person actually carrying an std? if i had genital herpes, i probably wouldn't want to disclose it either with a potential sex partner, but i would insist on wearing protection under the motto "better safe than sorry, for both of us, just in case".
also mind that it was johan putting the pressure on for having sex from all we know.
It’s your health. If you want to leave your health in other peoples hands then go for it. But don’t cry when you’re affected.
what is trust in regards to human relations then? pretty much worthless according to you.
guys like you talk tough but if it happens to you because you raw dog the wrong one i'd bet you'd call the person infecting you out and deny any responsibility.
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I’m going to say it is misogynistic to assume women can’t be responsible for protecting themselves during consensual sex.
it's not real consent when based on lies. should she have insisted on using a condom? wouldn't that be the job of the person actually carrying an std? if i had genital herpes, i probably wouldn't want to disclose it either with a potential sex partner, but i would insist on wearing protection under the motto "better safe than sorry, for both of us, just in case".
also mind that it was johan putting the pressure on for having sex from all we know.
It’s your health. If you want to leave your health in other peoples hands then go for it. But don’t cry when you’re affected.
what is trust in regards to human relations then? pretty much worthless according to you.
guys like you talk tough but if it happens to you because you raw dog the wrong one i'd bet you'd call the person infecting you out and deny any responsibility.
Except I’m not stupid and I don’t “rawdog” women because I am aware of the risks involved. I also wear my seatbelt in a car and eye protection when I use a cut-off wheel. Again, because it is my health and I am responsible for it. I’m not talking tough, I’m being aware and acting appropriately. Trust, but verify. In this case you would verify by quarantining from sex and getting a test. Because that’s how it works. Adults need to be adulting. Pretty fucking simple.
You’ve changed since KIDS. Bless
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I’m going to say it is misogynistic to assume women can’t be responsible for protecting themselves during consensual sex.
it's not real consent when based on lies. should she have insisted on using a condom? wouldn't that be the job of the person actually carrying an std? if i had genital herpes, i probably wouldn't want to disclose it either with a potential sex partner, but i would insist on wearing protection under the motto "better safe than sorry, for both of us, just in case".
also mind that it was johan putting the pressure on for having sex from all we know.
It’s your health. If you want to leave your health in other peoples hands then go for it. But don’t cry when you’re affected.
what is trust in regards to human relations then? pretty much worthless according to you.
guys like you talk tough but if it happens to you because you raw dog the wrong one i'd bet you'd call the person infecting you out and deny any responsibility.
Stupid kid of comprehension. I’ve been pretty clear in my opinions and steadfast use of rubbers.
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ok fair enough, if you stick to your philosophzy at all times you are entitled to your opinion. we all know this is not how hook ups and emotions work in real life though and awareness and trust aren't mutually exclusive values.
And I do stick to it 100%. I have enough anxiety in my life without adding risk.
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So now that Johan is off of WKND, how quickly do you think the rest of the team will jump ship?
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So now that Johan is off of WKND, how quickly do you think the rest of the team will jump ship?
I need maloof intact, his fakie flips is nuts
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New brand coming in hot
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New brand coming in hot
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The slightly tilted HRPS logo is fucking with my ocd.
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would the nba get rid of a player if he had herpes and didnt tell girls he hooked up with?
Kobe raped and still got to play or so the legend goes
I have to believe that if this had happened in today's environment, Kobe would have been possibly traded or something. But maybe not. I dunno.
Johan isn't close to being a Kobe. Johan is closer to Smush Parker
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New brand coming in hot
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H A R D
P A S S
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I hope Karsten
So now that Johan is off of WKND, how quickly do you think the rest of the team will jump ship?
Karsten on Isle would be sick
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would the nba get rid of a player if he had herpes and didnt tell girls he hooked up with?
No because there are potentially millions of dollars at play in that scenario and the very powerful people running the league would make sure a star player was protected via expensive legal action, pro PR teams, etc.
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I’m going to say it is misogynistic to assume women can’t be responsible for protecting themselves during consensual sex.
it's not real consent when based on lies. should she have insisted on using a condom? wouldn't that be the job of the person actually carrying an std? if i had genital herpes, i probably wouldn't want to disclose it either with a potential sex partner, but i would insist on wearing protection under the motto "better safe than sorry, for both of us, just in case".
also mind that it was johan putting the pressure on for having sex from all we know.
It’s your health. If you want to leave your health in other peoples hands then go for it. But don’t cry when you’re affected.
what is trust in regards to human relations then? pretty much worthless according to you.
guys like you talk tough but if it happens to you because you raw dog the wrong one i'd bet you'd call the person infecting you out and deny any responsibility.
Except I’m not stupid and I don’t “rawdog” women because I am aware of the risks involved. I also wear my seatbelt in a car and eye protection when I use a cut-off wheel. Again, because it is my health and I am responsible for it. I’m not talking tough, I’m being aware and acting appropriately. Trust, but verify. In this case you would verify by quarantining from sex and getting a test. Because that’s how it works. Adults need to be adulting. Pretty fucking simple.
Yeah how stupid do people have to be
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can someone give me a recap please?
I really didn't follow this.
What happened :o
Johan gave a striper herpes without her knowing.
She made a few Instagram story about it and peppered in a rape allegation for good measure.
He gets cancelled, WKND drops him.
The final twist in the tail, is apparently WKND knew he had herpes. So now they are bad too.
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can someone give me a recap please?
I really didn't follow this.
What happened :o
Johan and some chick had sex a few times only he lied about being clean when he knew he had herpes. His excuse was that he was on medicine and had no outbreaks at the time. The chick then airs him out and starts calling him a rapist then the angry mob happened then wknd tried to cover their asses by kicking Johan off the team.
Lol these might be the two worst hot-takes i've read yet.
Johan lied to her about being clean, therefore she could not provide consent in a fully informed way. No consent = rape.
Additionally, Johan forced her head down to give him oral sex. That's also rape.
I know your trolling
Please don't de mean rape victims with this fucking bullshit.
An ex girlfriend of mine had been raped very badly. So badly it was attempted murder and the perpetrator got 10 years. It has changed her whole life.
It makes a mockery of rape victims that attention seeking morons put up these pathetic Instagram stories. Or people equate not disclosing an sti as rape.
first of all, i wasn't trolling. I stand by what I wrote. Are you trying to Brett Kavanaugh me and tell me what "real rape" is?
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just to make myself clear, i'm not condoning unsafe sex, nor do i think it's smart. it's just a fact that some people do it, even despite their own moral codes because of all kinds of reasons, like being drunk, or just being in love and super horny as fuck, as stupid as these reasons are. and trust and consent run deeper than on a purely mechanical level by way of wearing protection, which may also fail randomly.
i fully agree that it's stupid to not insist on wearing protection if any of the parties don't know each other for too long or aren't sure, but there is still a difference between being naive and stupid/reckless and being deliberately careless and lying to reach consent on unprotected sex. stupidity is not a crime, taking advantage of it in sexual encounters/power dynamics though can be and often is. just because someone is stupid or naive (not assuming the women stuckey slept with are, just trying to make my point clear)doesn't mean they are fair game to commit sex crimes against after some sort of mutual trust was established.
i don't want to get into that territory, but imagine applying the same logic to other weaker individuals like mentally disabled people or kids and young adults/minors. there's a reason punishment is more severe when perpetrators take advantage of people where it's socially accepted that the power dynamic is vastly in favor of the perpetrator.
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There are support groups for people living with an STD, and his "so-called" friends/teammates should have recommended therapy of this kind so he wouldn't feel so scared to admit he gets highly contagious blisters on his weenie. Instead, they cracked jokes from their awful attempt at trying to be funny, making his horrific behavior seemingly okay in their immature perspectives.
My thoughts on the psychology behind Shit Head Stuckey's behavior is that he was actually so upset and ashamed of having genital herpes, he felt that in order for him to not feel less desired because of the virus, he then would infect others to include them in his pain and suffering all so he could get laid and still feel desired. That sounds like the behavior of a sociopath who is nihilistic.
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would the nba get rid of a player if he had herpes and didnt tell girls he hooked up with?
Hell no. That shot would get swept under the rug with some Non-Disclosure Agreements and out of court settlements.
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can someone give me a recap please?
I really didn't follow this.
What happened :o
Johan gave a striper herpes without her knowing.
She made a few Instagram story about it and peppered in a rape allegation for good measure.
He gets cancelled, WKND drops him.
The final twist in the tail, is apparently WKND knew he had herpes. So now they are bad too.
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can someone give me a recap please?
I really didn't follow this.
What happened :o
Johan and some chick had sex a few times only he lied about being clean when he knew he had herpes. His excuse was that he was on medicine and had no outbreaks at the time. The chick then airs him out and starts calling him a rapist then the angry mob happened then wknd tried to cover their asses by kicking Johan off the team.
Lol these might be the two worst hot-takes i've read yet.
Johan lied to her about being clean, therefore she could not provide consent in a fully informed way. No consent = rape.
Additionally, Johan forced her head down to give him oral sex. That's also rape.
I know your trolling
Please don't de mean rape victims with this fucking bullshit.
An ex girlfriend of mine had been raped very badly. So badly it was attempted murder and the perpetrator got 10 years. It has changed her whole life.
It makes a mockery of rape victims that attention seeking morons put up these pathetic Instagram stories. Or people equate not disclosing an sti as rape.
Say what you said to a rape victims face and see how they react.
Honestly man get real.
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I feel so fucking stupid. Why Batman Forever? I think I get the forever part, but why Batman?
I’m dumb.
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Wknd taking some heat in the comments also
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WKND's known about his shit since the time he got it. it's no surprise to any of them. i've been in the van hearing him joke about it in the far past... its pretty dated if you're trying to roast him tbh
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just to make myself clear, i'm not condoning unsafe sex, nor do i think it's smart. it's just a fact that some people do it, even despite their own moral codes because of all kinds of reasons, like being drunk, or just being in love and super horny as fuck, as stupid as these reasons are. and trust and consent run deeper than on a purely mechanical level by way of wearing protection, which may also fail randomly.
i fully agree that it's stupid to not insist on wearing protection if any of the parties don't know each other for too long or aren't sure, but there is still a difference between being naive and stupid/reckless and being deliberately careless and lying to reach consent on unprotected sex. stupidity is not a crime, taking advantage of it in sexual encounters/power dynamics though can be and often is. just because someone is stupid or naive (not assuming the women stuckey slept with are, just trying to make my point clear)doesn't mean they are fair game to commit sex crimes against after some sort of mutual trust was established.
i don't want to get into that territory, but imagine applying the same logic to other weaker individuals like mentally disabled people or kids and young adults/minors. there's a reason punishment is more severe when perpetrators take advantage of people where it's socially accepted that the power dynamic is vastly in favor of the perpetrator.
So this woman needs the protection afforded to vulnerable adults? Ok, then get her in a group home or other monitored living situation.
Careless is careless. Trusting someone you barely know with your health is careless.
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You know how all of this shit could have been avoided?
Emily: "Are you clean?"
Johan: "No."
Extend that to any other woman he lied to for the sake of a quick fuck.
Shame on you, Johan.
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So this woman needs the protection afforded to vulnerable adults? Ok, then get her in a group home or other monitored living situation.
Careless is careless. Trusting someone you barely know with your health is careless.
neither was i responding directly to a certain post post you've made, also i've made it clear i'm not talking about the women that accuse stuckey. i'm talking about the fact that even if someone is careless(doesn't need to be stupidity) it's not like they deserve what's coming towards them.
the woman did what she thought was taking care, i never said she needs to be protected, like a child. she made an adult decision. just because it doesn't apply to your simple, if coherent logic, doesn't mean stuckey was allowed to do what he does and that it's ok to blame her for it.
you are basically repeating the victim blaming that people employ when they say shit like "if women don't want to be raped, they should stop wearing sexy clothes." normal people don't rape every person they are sexually attracted to. a predatory mindset is needed for that, same when you knowingly infect others with stds. stuckey is accountable, not the woman. your own personal parameters aside, the laws are pretty clear on this. your line of thinking when present in police only helps to keep this shit under wraps and to disenfranchise victims of sexual abuse to come forward.
it's not just about protection, we need to empower victims(of every sex and gender!) of scumbags to come forward, and when they do, they can't just be dismissed as "knowing what was coming to them". that's just my opinion though, and fwiw i'll gladly leave it at that and agree to disagree with you from here on out.
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Out of all the insane things that have been said in this thread, 'Jordan Taylor on Hockey' might be the most insane.
Fuck Johan and fuck WKND.
Is this the first widely condemned 'modern/current' skateboarder to be cancelled? Not even Daryl got it this bad.
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Out of all the insane things that have been said in this thread, 'Jordan Taylor on Hockey' might be the most insane.
Fuck Johan and fuck WKND.
Is this the first widely condemned 'modern/current' skateboarder to be cancelled? Not even Daryl got it this bad.
What about beebull getting dropped by craig
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Out of all the insane things that have been said in this thread, 'Jordan Taylor on Hockey' might be the most insane.
Fuck Johan and fuck WKND.
Is this the first widely condemned 'modern/current' skateboarder to be cancelled? Not even Daryl got it this bad.
Biebel hasn't been a skateboarder for years.
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Out of all the insane things that have been said in this thread, 'Jordan Taylor on Hockey' might be the most insane.
Fuck Johan and fuck WKND.
Is this the first widely condemned 'modern/current' skateboarder to be cancelled? Not even Daryl got it this bad.
I think there was still a pretty large group of people saying that what biebel did wasn't wrong. Here, a small group are saying 'they were both wrong.' Nobody is actually defending Johan. I hope.
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So this woman needs the protection afforded to vulnerable adults? Ok, then get her in a group home or other monitored living situation.
Careless is careless. Trusting someone you barely know with your health is careless.
neither was i responding directly to a certain post post you've made, also i've made it clear i'm not talking about the women that accuse stuckey. i'm talking about the fact that even if someone is careless(doesn't need to be stupidity) it's not like they deserve what's coming towards them.
the woman did what she thought was taking care, i never said she needs to be protected, like a child. she made an adult decision. just because it doesn't apply to your simple, if coherent logic, doesn't mean stuckey was allowed to do what he does and that it's ok to blame her for it.
you are basically repeating the victim blaming that people employ when they say shit like "if women don't want to be raped, they should stop wearing sexy clothes." normal people don't rape every person they are sexually attracted to. a predatory mindset is needed for that, same when you knowingly infect others with stds. stuckey is accountable, not the woman. your own personal parameters aside, the laws are pretty clear on this. your line of thinking when present in police only helps to keep this shit under wraps and to disenfranchise victims of sexual abuse to come forward.
it's not just about protection, we need to empower victims(of every sex and gender!) of scumbags to come forward, and when they do, they can't just be dismissed as "knowing what was coming to them". that's just my opinion though, and fwiw i'll gladly leave it at that and agree to disagree with you from here on out.
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1) I would argue that people who are careless absolutely deserve what is coming to them if taking care would have stopped 99+% of what was coming there way. If a person carelessly runs a red light do they deserve no blame for the resulting damage/injuries?
2) stuckey is a lying piece of garbage, and he is responsible for his part. She is responsible for agreeing to have sex without a condom. If I go on a train trestle above a river and decide to ignore the no diving signs, decline to check the water below, and jump off into 6 inches of water, who’s fault is that? The water? The bridge? Clearly not me because personal accountability is hard.
3) I have not seen any poster dismissing sexual violence. You can twist my sentiments to fit your narrative of all women being helpless and in need of men to keep them safe. I will just advocate for all people to do that for themselves as well as others.
Edit: your post did say to apply this scenario to vulnerable people.
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Let’s be honest anyone who remotely cared about WKND or Johan is a kook. They’re both gay and trendy and this thread should be canceled
you should try leaving your hometown sometime buddy
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Let’s be honest anyone who remotely cared about WKND or Johan is a kook. They’re both gay and trendy and this thread should be canceled
Careful bud, in his next post he's going to invite you to his local in Santa Ana and show you just how fragile his masculinity truly is.
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So this woman needs the protection afforded to vulnerable adults? Ok, then get her in a group home or other monitored living situation.
Careless is careless. Trusting someone you barely know with your health is careless.
neither was i responding directly to a certain post post you've made, also i've made it clear i'm not talking about the women that accuse stuckey. i'm talking about the fact that even if someone is careless(doesn't need to be stupidity) it's not like they deserve what's coming towards them.
the woman did what she thought was taking care, i never said she needs to be protected, like a child. she made an adult decision. just because it doesn't apply to your simple, if coherent logic, doesn't mean stuckey was allowed to do what he does and that it's ok to blame her for it.
you are basically repeating the victim blaming that people employ when they say shit like "if women don't want to be raped, they should stop wearing sexy clothes." normal people don't rape every person they are sexually attracted to. a predatory mindset is needed for that, same when you knowingly infect others with stds. stuckey is accountable, not the woman. your own personal parameters aside, the laws are pretty clear on this. your line of thinking when present in police only helps to keep this shit under wraps and to disenfranchise victims of sexual abuse to come forward.
it's not just about protection, we need to empower victims(of every sex and gender!) of scumbags to come forward, and when they do, they can't just be dismissed as "knowing what was coming to them". that's just my opinion though, and fwiw i'll gladly leave it at that and agree to disagree with you from here on out.
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1) I would argue that people who are careless absolutely deserve what is coming to them if taking care would have stopped 99+% of what was coming there way. If a person carelessly runs a red light do they deserve no blame for the resulting damage/injuries?
2) stuckey is a lying piece of garbage, and he is responsible for his part. She is responsible for agreeing to have sex without a condom. If I go on a train trestle above a river and decide to ignore the no diving signs, decline to check the water below, and jump off into 6 inches of water, who’s fault is that? The water? The bridge? Clearly not me because personal accountability is hard.
3) I have not seen any poster dismissing sexual violence. You can twist my sentiments to fit your narrative of all women being helpless and in need of men to keep them safe. I will just advocate for all people to do that for themselves as well as others.
Edit: your post did say to apply this scenario to vulnerable people.
I like your example, but let’s pretend you checked the signs on the bridge & they said “You’re good, homey; go for it! 6 inches of water is plenty, trust me.”
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Also, considering how many people test Herpes positive, is there some sort of H-Date app that folks could use to meet others in a similar bind? If there is, Stuckles could have avoided the discomfort of addressing the issue (hey, it could’ve even been an ice breaker... “So, how’s you contract yours?”) and if there’s no such app yet, I think I sense a great opportunity for a PAL with coding skills to make a festering, blister covered pile of money.
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New brand coming in hot
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Isn’t that the same name as Ellington’s loafer company?
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OK Johan is a piece of shit for lying to these women just to get in their pants. Knowingly infecting them with a disease with no cure is inexcusable.
But am I really supposed to believe everyone on WKND knew Johan had herpes and was lying to girls he had sex with and infecting them? Do you guys really think someone on the team wouldn't call him out?
It's more likely the WKND guys knew he had herpes or an std, but figured he had protected sex with all the girls he hooked up with.
I mean I can't imagine Johan actually bragging he gave girls herpes... Was he? I would imagine he kept that shit really fucking quiet.
I mean what do I know, these are just my observations.
But I don't think it's right to cancel WKND if we don't know for sure if they all knew the whole story or not. Just trying to give them the benefit of the doubt I dunno...
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I hope someone files charges and they actually get this dirtbag. Fuck Johan, fuck WKND, and fuck any of you supporting them. They all knowingly supported this. Fuck everyone in this thread defending Johan.
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OK Johan is a piece of shit for lying to these women just to get in their pants. Knowingly infecting them with a disease with no cure is inexcusable.
But am I really supposed to believe everyone on WKND knew Johan had herpes and was lying to girls he had sex with and infecting them? Do you guys really think someone on the team wouldn't call him out?
It's more likely the WKND guys knew he had herpes or an std, but figured he had protected sex with all the girls he hooked up with.
I mean I can't imagine Johan actually bragging he gave girls herpes... Was he? I would imagine he kept that shit really fucking quiet.
I mean what do I know, these are just my observations.
But I don't think it's right to cancel WKND if we don't know for sure if they all knew the whole story or not. Just trying to give them the benefit of the doubt I dunno...
He’s been called out and made fun of in multiple shit for stds. Fuck wknd.
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OK Johan is a piece of shit for lying to these women just to get in their pants. Knowingly infecting them with a disease with no cure is inexcusable.
But am I really supposed to believe everyone on WKND knew Johan had herpes and was lying to girls he had sex with and infecting them? Do you guys really think someone on the team wouldn't call him out?
It's more likely the WKND guys knew he had herpes or an std, but figured he had protected sex with all the girls he hooked up with.
I mean I can't imagine Johan actually bragging he gave girls herpes... Was he? I would imagine he kept that shit really fucking quiet.
I mean what do I know, these are just my observations.
But I don't think it's right to cancel WKND if we don't know for sure if they all knew the whole story or not. Just trying to give them the benefit of the doubt I dunno...
He’s been called out and made fun of in multiple shit for stds. Fuck wknd.
In what? The Roast? What else besides that? That's not proof for me, people always say outrageous shit in those Roasts. Roasts are done for shock, awe and laughs.
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Wknd has been weakened
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Wknd has been weakened
Thank you for that.
It wasn’t your best material by any means, but I confess, I smiled.
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Thank you for that.
It wasn’t your best material by any means, but I confess, I smiled.
Hahah yes! *bows*
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OK Johan is a piece of shit for lying to these women just to get in their pants. Knowingly infecting them with a disease with no cure is inexcusable.
But am I really supposed to believe everyone on WKND knew Johan had herpes and was lying to girls he had sex with and infecting them? Do you guys really think someone on the team wouldn't call him out?
It's more likely the WKND guys knew he had herpes or an std, but figured he had protected sex with all the girls he hooked up with.
I mean I can't imagine Johan actually bragging he gave girls herpes... Was he? I would imagine he kept that shit really fucking quiet.
I mean what do I know, these are just my observations.
But I don't think it's right to cancel WKND if we don't know for sure if they all knew the whole story or not. Just trying to give them the benefit of the doubt I dunno...
He’s been called out and made fun of in multiple shit for stds. Fuck wknd.
In what? The Roast? What else besides that? That's not proof for me, people always say outrageous shit in those Roasts. Roasts are done for shock, awe and laughs.
When they got called out a year ago and had to change the venue of a premiere
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He has done this to MANY girls......all got them infected.......
WKND joked about this in the roast, which they have now taken down..........
Emily was SILENCED over a year ago when she first came out against Johan.......
When Johan Stuckey was meant to have a premiere for his video, she came out AGAINST him and notified the venue......
They cancelled the premiere and had it in another venue instead. WKND bullied her into retracting what she said and silenced her.....
For what? A skate video?
If you support WKND and Johan Stuckey after this, you're part of the problem.
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He has done this to MANY girls......all got them infected.......
WKND joked about this in the roast, which they have now taken down..........
https://youtu.be/Or4RANuq2sE (https://youtu.be/Or4RANuq2sE)
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The brainlessness of these prostithots are ridiculously stupid! You knew he was a skater you looked him up? If you're still going through with fucking him then you deserved it.
I hate this try now and cry wolf victimhood mentality seems as though the brains that some people were born with is there but they just ignore it.
As someone else said if you're dumb enough to believe his goofy ass you were the sucker, get over it and get a treatment like anyone else.
you're so fucking inept. have you never been deceived not once in your life? have you ever been lied to? what the fuck kind of research do you imagine her doing? DMing women he knows to check the status of their STD's? jesus christ
Yes if you think dude's sketch but you hooked up with him. I'd think if you were anyone who had somewhat intelligence you'd ask around and especially his past partners, that's how you get reliable sources.
I'm from a small town in Mississippi and the few people that are involved with punk/skating you're going to ask around if someone's sketchy.
If you don't then the fault is both people. Conversations aren't one sided same as hooking up.
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OK Johan is a piece of shit for lying to these women just to get in their pants. Knowingly infecting them with a disease with no cure is inexcusable.
But am I really supposed to believe everyone on WKND knew Johan had herpes and was lying to girls he had sex with and infecting them? Do you guys really think someone on the team wouldn't call him out?
It's more likely the WKND guys knew he had herpes or an std, but figured he had protected sex with all the girls he hooked up with.
I mean I can't imagine Johan actually bragging he gave girls herpes... Was he? I would imagine he kept that shit really fucking quiet.
I mean what do I know, these are just my observations.
But I don't think it's right to cancel WKND if we don't know for sure if they all knew the whole story or not. Just trying to give them the benefit of the doubt I dunno...
He’s been called out and made fun of in multiple shit for stds. Fuck wknd.
Yeah he has an STD. That's different to knowing he was having unprotected sex.
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So this woman needs the protection afforded to vulnerable adults? Ok, then get her in a group home or other monitored living situation.
Careless is careless. Trusting someone you barely know with your health is careless.
neither was i responding directly to a certain post post you've made, also i've made it clear i'm not talking about the women that accuse stuckey. i'm talking about the fact that even if someone is careless(doesn't need to be stupidity) it's not like they deserve what's coming towards them.
the woman did what she thought was taking care, i never said she needs to be protected, like a child. she made an adult decision. just because it doesn't apply to your simple, if coherent logic, doesn't mean stuckey was allowed to do what he does and that it's ok to blame her for it.
you are basically repeating the victim blaming that people employ when they say shit like "if women don't want to be raped, they should stop wearing sexy clothes." normal people don't rape every person they are sexually attracted to. a predatory mindset is needed for that, same when you knowingly infect others with stds. stuckey is accountable, not the woman. your own personal parameters aside, the laws are pretty clear on this. your line of thinking when present in police only helps to keep this shit under wraps and to disenfranchise victims of sexual abuse to come forward.
it's not just about protection, we need to empower victims(of every sex and gender!) of scumbags to come forward, and when they do, they can't just be dismissed as "knowing what was coming to them". that's just my opinion though, and fwiw i'll gladly leave it at that and agree to disagree with you from here on out.
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1) I would argue that people who are careless absolutely deserve what is coming to them if taking care would have stopped 99+% of what was coming there way. If a person carelessly runs a red light do they deserve no blame for the resulting damage/injuries?
2) stuckey is a lying piece of garbage, and he is responsible for his part. She is responsible for agreeing to have sex without a condom. If I go on a train trestle above a river and decide to ignore the no diving signs, decline to check the water below, and jump off into 6 inches of water, who’s fault is that? The water? The bridge? Clearly not me because personal accountability is hard.
3) I have not seen any poster dismissing sexual violence. You can twist my sentiments to fit your narrative of all women being helpless and in need of men to keep them safe. I will just advocate for all people to do that for themselves as well as others.
Edit: your post did say to apply this scenario to vulnerable people.
1) trust, but verify
2) if the sign looked like johan, would you jump?
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OK Johan is a piece of shit for lying to these women just to get in their pants. Knowingly infecting them with a disease with no cure is inexcusable.
But am I really supposed to believe everyone on WKND knew Johan had herpes and was lying to girls he had sex with and infecting them? Do you guys really think someone on the team wouldn't call him out?
It's more likely the WKND guys knew he had herpes or an std, but figured he had protected sex with all the girls he hooked up with.
I mean I can't imagine Johan actually bragging he gave girls herpes... Was he? I would imagine he kept that shit really fucking quiet.
I mean what do I know, these are just my observations.
But I don't think it's right to cancel WKND if we don't know for sure if they all knew the whole story or not. Just trying to give them the benefit of the doubt I dunno...
He’s been called out and made fun of in multiple shit for stds. Fuck wknd.
Yeah he has an STD. That's different to knowing he was having unprotected sex.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying too RichardBarkley. Can't imagine the WKND guys knowing he was going about having unprotected sex and them not saying something.
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So this woman needs the protection afforded to vulnerable adults? Ok, then get her in a group home or other monitored living situation.
Careless is careless. Trusting someone you barely know with your health is careless.
neither was i responding directly to a certain post post you've made, also i've made it clear i'm not talking about the women that accuse stuckey. i'm talking about the fact that even if someone is careless(doesn't need to be stupidity) it's not like they deserve what's coming towards them.
the woman did what she thought was taking care, i never said she needs to be protected, like a child. she made an adult decision. just because it doesn't apply to your simple, if coherent logic, doesn't mean stuckey was allowed to do what he does and that it's ok to blame her for it.
you are basically repeating the victim blaming that people employ when they say shit like "if women don't want to be raped, they should stop wearing sexy clothes." normal people don't rape every person they are sexually attracted to. a predatory mindset is needed for that, same when you knowingly infect others with stds. stuckey is accountable, not the woman. your own personal parameters aside, the laws are pretty clear on this. your line of thinking when present in police only helps to keep this shit under wraps and to disenfranchise victims of sexual abuse to come forward.
it's not just about protection, we need to empower victims(of every sex and gender!) of scumbags to come forward, and when they do, they can't just be dismissed as "knowing what was coming to them". that's just my opinion though, and fwiw i'll gladly leave it at that and agree to disagree with you from here on out.
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1) I would argue that people who are careless absolutely deserve what is coming to them if taking care would have stopped 99+% of what was coming there way. If a person carelessly runs a red light do they deserve no blame for the resulting damage/injuries?
2) stuckey is a lying piece of garbage, and he is responsible for his part. She is responsible for agreeing to have sex without a condom. If I go on a train trestle above a river and decide to ignore the no diving signs, decline to check the water below, and jump off into 6 inches of water, who’s fault is that? The water? The bridge? Clearly not me because personal accountability is hard.
3) I have not seen any poster dismissing sexual violence. You can twist my sentiments to fit your narrative of all women being helpless and in need of men to keep them safe. I will just advocate for all people to do that for themselves as well as others.
Edit: your post did say to apply this scenario to vulnerable people.
1) trust, but verify
2) if the sign looked like johan, would you jump?
🤣🤣🤣
I suppose there’s something to be said for the old “Ladies Room” adage: If he looks Like he pays for sex, he may in fact be paying sex.”
The implication being that people who pay for sex frequently engage in questionable or unsafe... oh you know where I’m going with this.
Even still... fucking wrong (2x entendre intended.)
Bad Jo Jo, no sponsor!
Johan ALSO played stupid games, and Johan just won himself a stupid(ity) prize.
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I’m disappointed in Johan and WKND but most of all I’m disappointed in you poor schmucks trying to act like you know what’s right. Don’t bother responding to this , I’m done looking at this car crash.
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New brand coming in hot
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Isn’t that the same name as Ellington’s loafer company?
This board would come with a sheet of ulcer and scab stickers
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I’ve encountered this a few times in my life, and I am still at a loss as to what people are thinking.
1) this he/she said they were clean and I didn’t need a condom. That’s fucking idiotic. If I have to explain why that is idiotic you are an idiot. I’ll bet this girl can explain exactly how it actually doesn’t feel better without a condom. Especially the open sores.
2) if a woman says you don’t need to wear a condom YOU ABSOLUTELY DO HAVE TO WEAR A CONDOM. or gtfo.
I don’t mean this to shame the girl. Fuck this goofus for infecting somebody else. She does have half the blame though. I know there are zero women reading slap, but girls, make dudes cover that shit. They might be clean, but they might be dirty. Assume the worst.
Cuz of the implication...
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Lots of dumbasses tipping their hands at having herpes on this post.
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what do the hrps loafers look like? looking for a nice pair
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I’m disappointed in Johan and WKND but most of all I’m disappointed in you poor schmucks trying to act like you know what’s right. Don’t bother responding to this , I’m done looking at this car crash.
What will we do without you? :'(
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yall really having a sex ed debate on a skateboard forum
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We need to close Florida’s borders already man wtf...Johan yucky😂😂😂 they would say the craziest shit on skate talk..I remember a story on skate talk where Johan and grant we’re talking shit on the owner of rip and dip and Johan called him a white n*****...those wknd/hrps boys are trash
Chill with the emojis homie we understand
Shut up you fucking stupid ass bitch 🤓🤓💯💯😭
He was only tryin’ to help you, fucking stupid ass bitch.
😂😂😂I Didn’t know slap was so anti emoji..now I’ll never stop...like joho’s herpes I’m always coming back 😈😈😈😈...oh yeah i was listening to a podcast where Fred durst Tallis about how his son cancels him everyday...😢😢 kinda sad...
You should get one of those sweet shirts from wal mart with the emoji faces and funny little saying on it. Probably have some cool boxer shorts with the poop emoji on the butt or something too.
I already have those dummy your mom loves em the most.. her favorite is the one this one 🍆🍆🍆💦💦💦
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they have these weird bumps on them and r pink and white
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i don’t really understand what’s so hard to comprehend about this so i’ll put it in a way that you will get.
say you met a girl at a bar, you were hyped on her, you go home with her but you don’t have a condom and neither does she. you’ve been tested recently and you know you are clean. so you ask the girl, do you have any stds i should know about? she says no. in your drunken state of mind you believe her. you do the deed and a few weeks later you have herpes. for ever. that’s like drinking from one cup for the rest of your life. would you not be furious? felt lied to? everyone here defending johan would feel that way if they were in her position.
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what do the hrps loafers look like? looking for a nice pair
they have these weird bumps on them and r pink and white
Like faux pink ostrich skin?
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i don’t really understand what’s so hard to comprehend about this so i’ll put it in a way that you will get.
say you met a girl at a bar, you were hyped on her, you go home with her but you don’t have a condom and neither does she. you’ve been tested recently and you know you are clean. so you ask the girl, do you have any stds i should know about? she says no. in your drunken state of mind you believe her. you do the deed and a few weeks later you have herpes. for ever. that’s like drinking from one cup for the rest of your life. would you not be furious? felt lied to? everyone here defending johan would feel that way if they were in her position.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
Edit: be furious at yourself for not being responsible for your own health, ignoring medical science and being no smarter than a plant.
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i don’t really understand what’s so hard to comprehend about this so i’ll put it in a way that you will get.
say you met a girl at a bar, you were hyped on her, you go home with her but you don’t have a condom and neither does she. you’ve been tested recently and you know you are clean. so you ask the girl, do you have any stds i should know about? she says no. in your drunken state of mind you believe her. you do the deed and a few weeks later you have herpes. for ever. that’s like drinking from one cup for the rest of your life. would you not be furious? felt lied to? everyone here defending johan would feel that way if they were in her position.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
Edit: be furious at yourself for not being responsible for your own health, ignoring medical science and being no smarter than a plant.
i agree to an extent. but if someone knowingly has a disease and decides to hide that from you, for you to get, they’re in the wrong. also let us not forget that he forced her head into his dick and that he has still not personally apologized to her for it. nothing he said was genuine. he’s full of shit.
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i don’t really understand what’s so hard to comprehend about this so i’ll put it in a way that you will get.
say you met a girl at a bar, you were hyped on her, you go home with her but you don’t have a condom and neither does she. you’ve been tested recently and you know you are clean. so you ask the girl, do you have any stds i should know about? she says no. in your drunken state of mind you believe her. you do the deed and a few weeks later you have herpes. for ever. that’s like drinking from one cup for the rest of your life. would you not be furious? felt lied to? everyone here defending johan would feel that way if they were in her position.
morally yes but like
no one in their right mind should have sex with a stranger with no condomn
all the millions spent on safe sex advertisement just to make people can cry about being lied to
no one goes for regular check-ups to see if they're clean, at best people go after a risky encounter and then put it off until the next encounter - it's not some doctor visit that gives you a badge of approval
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Years ago I was skating in some serious heat during summer in Japan and would often have to drive 45 minutes home before I could shower and change fully. I got these gnarly sores on my upper thighs under my balls and when I went to some asshole geriatric doctor in the countryside he told me I had herpes. Anyway, the sores didn't go away and 3 weeks later in my home country I went to the STD clinic and they were like: "who the hell told you you had herpes this is just a fungal infection?". The doctor told me if you have the mouth form (I do) it is way harder to get the genital kind. She also said loads of people have it, it is just some people's immune systems are not good at supressing it and show. I don't think they will even do a blood test for it in the UK. The way she described it was that the stigma was way more of a problem than the medical side of it.
Anyway, point is, for three weeks I had to confront the possibility of what life would be like living with it would be like. At no point did I think I would be having any kind of sex without disclosing it. It was really rough on me mentally and I could not imagine putting another person through that. So basically fuck Johan, guy needs a fucking slap, what kind of guy gives three different diseases to different girls? If your fucking around wear condoms or at the very least get tested regularly and be honest!
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i don’t really understand what’s so hard to comprehend about this so i’ll put it in a way that you will get.
say you met a girl at a bar, you were hyped on her, you go home with her but you don’t have a condom and neither does she. you’ve been tested recently and you know you are clean. so you ask the girl, do you have any stds i should know about? she says no. in your drunken state of mind you believe her. you do the deed and a few weeks later you have herpes. for ever. that’s like drinking from one cup for the rest of your life. would you not be furious? felt lied to? everyone here defending johan would feel that way if they were in her position.
morally yes but like
no one in their right mind should have sex with a stranger with no condomn
all the millions spent on safe sex advertisement just to make people can cry about being lied to
no one goes for regular check-ups to see if they're clean, at best people go after a risky encounter and then put it off until the next encounter - it's not some doctor visit that gives you a badge of approval
“no one in their right mind” she was drunk so wasn’t in her right mind. and before i was in a long term relationship i went for regular check ups, a lot of people do. that’s very common.
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i don’t really understand what’s so hard to comprehend about this so i’ll put it in a way that you will get.
say you met a girl at a bar, you were hyped on her, you go home with her but you don’t have a condom and neither does she. you’ve been tested recently and you know you are clean. so you ask the girl, do you have any stds i should know about? she says no. in your drunken state of mind you believe her. you do the deed and a few weeks later you have herpes. for ever. that’s like drinking from one cup for the rest of your life. would you not be furious? felt lied to? everyone here defending johan would feel that way if they were in her position.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
Edit: be furious at yourself for not being responsible for your own health, ignoring medical science and being no smarter than a plant.
i agree to an extent. but if someone knowingly has a disease and decides to hide that from you, for you to get, they’re in the wrong. also let us not forget that he forced her head into his dick and that he has still not personally apologized to her for it. nothing he said was genuine. he’s full of shit.
I agree 100% that knowingly hiding a disease from someone is at best morally corrupt.
The point, though, is “are you clean?” Is not a safe alternative. Forget about people who will lie, what about the people who haven’t been tested since their last unprotected encounter.
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Years ago I was skating in some serious heat during summer in Japan and would often have to drive 45 minutes home before I could shower and change fully. I got these gnarly sores on my upper thighs under my balls and when I went to some asshole geriatric doctor in the countryside he told me I had herpes.
I feel your pain. I’m over here and I’ve had both the ball rashes and deal with with doctors that shouldn’t have a license
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i don’t really understand what’s so hard to comprehend about this so i’ll put it in a way that you will get.
say you met a girl at a bar, you were hyped on her, you go home with her but you don’t have a condom and neither does she. you’ve been tested recently and you know you are clean. so you ask the girl, do you have any stds i should know about? she says no. in your drunken state of mind you believe her. you do the deed and a few weeks later you have herpes. for ever. that’s like drinking from one cup for the rest of your life. would you not be furious? felt lied to? everyone here defending johan would feel that way if they were in her position.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
Edit: be furious at yourself for not being responsible for your own health, ignoring medical science and being no smarter than a plant.
i agree to an extent. but if someone knowingly has a disease and decides to hide that from you, for you to get, they’re in the wrong. also let us not forget that he forced her head into his dick and that he has still not personally apologized to her for it. nothing he said was genuine. he’s full of shit.
I agree 100% that knowingly hiding a disease from someone is at best morally corrupt.
The point, though, is “are you clean?” Is not a safe alternative. Forget about people who will lie, what about the people who haven’t been tested since their last unprotected encounter.
you’re right about that. mistakes were made on both ends and that’s something she’s gotta live with. i’m not saying that is safe alternative but that’s what happened. i’d be lying if i said i’ve never had unprotected sex with someone i barely know. i’m sure a lot of people have at least once in their lives. at the end of the day, all he had to do was tell the truth and all of this would have been avoided but instead he lied and now she’s got something that will never go away.
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i don’t really understand what’s so hard to comprehend about this so i’ll put it in a way that you will get.
say you met a girl at a bar, you were hyped on her, you go home with her but you don’t have a condom and neither does she. you’ve been tested recently and you know you are clean. so you ask the girl, do you have any stds i should know about? she says no. in your drunken state of mind you believe her. you do the deed and a few weeks later you have herpes. for ever. that’s like drinking from one cup for the rest of your life. would you not be furious? felt lied to? everyone here defending johan would feel that way if they were in her position.
I’m just guessing, but I think the people defending him were in exactly that position before and that’s why they have no sympathy. They got burned and misery loves company so fuck everybody else and let them get it.
It’s a shitty attitude, but you see it all the time from people that got fucked over in some way or another. It’s the opposite reaction of the women that had the balls to call this asshole out.
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If you don't see what's wrong with lying about having a fucking STD then you deserve them. You are also a massive piece of shit.
Fuck this guy and anybody defending him.
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If you don't see what's wrong with lying about having a fucking STD then you deserve them. You are also a massive piece of shit.
Fuck this guy and anybody defending him.
Literally nobody is defending him.
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If you don't see what's wrong with lying about having a fucking STD then you deserve them. You are also a massive piece of shit.
Fuck this guy and anybody defending him.
But if you’re talking about me, that’s fine. I use a prophylactic device so I’m not too worried.
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If anyone on Slap is friends with any of these girls , please find Johan before he runs back to Florida and beat his ass. Seriously fuck him up
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Wait wait wait who the fuck would really fuck this dude or let alone find his regular little boy look and demeanor attractive, no one shoulda been fucking this boy I mean just look at him
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First I want to state I am not blaming the victim and Johan is totally at fault here.
*My Dad gave me the sex talk when he was really drunk, he said: “always wear a jimmy.” And somehow that has stuck with me.
But he said this not due to STD’s but because you can easily knock someone up if you don’t use a condom. Even if the woman in question is on some form of birth control...accidents happen you can still get pregnant.
I think the thing that I find most strange, besides Johan’s excessive lying. Is that two mature strangers are still willing to have sex without a condom this day in age. I mean yea... sex is awesome and all. But sometimes if I run out of condoms or something I’ll just say okay let’s try this tomorrow.
Being drunk is no excuse. I’ve been turned down numerous times when I’ve been drunk and didn’t have a condom. Just go jerk off in the bathroom or something
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that's intense if true
sadly and most likely not the end of this.
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I feel so fucking stupid. Why Batman Forever? I think I get the forever part, but why Batman?
I’m dumb.
We still need GAY to confirm, but I have two guesses.
Batman Forever was directed by Joel Schumacher, who infamously made the movies campy and added nipples to the batsuit. He was also a really promiscuous gay man.
Schumacher said that he had had sex with between 10,000 and 20,000 men. During the AIDS epidemic, he lost multiple friends, and had multiple tests on himself performed due to fears that his promiscuity would give him AIDS.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joel_Schumacher
Someone in a DC Comics forum made a really good post on why it's the gayest Batman movie (very well researched/written btw).
https://community.dcuniverse.com/t/batman-forever-is-the-gayest-batman-ever/54198
It might also come from the Jamaican slang term for gay men, Batty boy.
In Jamaican Patois, batty boy (also batty bwoy, batty man, and chi chi bwoy/man) is a pejorative term often used to refer to a gay or effeminate man. The term batiman (or battyman) is also used in Belize, due to the popularity of Jamaican music.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batty_boy
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First I want to state I am not blaming the victim and Johan is totally at fault here.
*My Dad gave me the sex talk when he was really drunk, he said: “always wear a jimmy.” And somehow that has stuck with me.
But he said this not due to STD’s but because you can easily knock someone up if you don’t use a condom. Even if the woman in question is on some form of birth control...accidents happen you can still get pregnant.
I think the thing that I find most strange, besides Johan’s excessive lying. Is that two mature strangers are still willing to have sex without a condom this day in age. I mean yea... sex is awesome and all. But sometimes if I run out of condoms or something I’ll just say okay let’s try this tomorrow.
Being drunk is no excuse. I’ve been turned down numerous times when I’ve been drunk and didn’t have a condom. Just go jerk off in the bathroom or something
All this. Also, let’s just suppose it is possible for a woman to be “on birth control” but not be as steadfast in her resolve to take the pill everyday. Maybe she even thought she did, but got the days mixed up and had been taking the placebos instead of the pill. So she wasn’t even lying but what she said was not true.
Fact is if you know enough to ask someone if they are clean then you know enough to use protection. Every time. Even drunk. Even in a hotel. Even in a car. Or a bar. Whether near or far.
I’ve never been told I couldn’t have sex with a woman because neither of us had condoms because I already know without a condom it ain’t happening. I’ve had several women act indignant that I didn’t want to fuck them without a condom and all I could think was “why do you want to fuck me without one.” I don’t think you’re dirty but I know I’m clean, and I want to stay that way.
Perhaps that is the actual line here: are condoms meant to protect yourself or others? I think they are to protect me. I keep testing negative and that is the plan.
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Man I was a really big fan of his skating but fuuuuck this dude
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If anyone on Slap is friends with any of these girls , please find Johan before he runs back to Florida and beat his ass. Seriously fuck him up
Why don't you go beat his ass tough guy?
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I feel so fucking stupid. Why Batman Forever? I think I get the forever part, but why Batman?
I’m dumb.
We still need GAY to confirm, but I have two guesses.
Batman Forever was directed by Joel Schumacher, who infamously made the movies campy and added nipples to the batsuit. He was also a really promiscuous gay man.
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Schumacher said that he had had sex with between 10,000 and 20,000 men. During the AIDS epidemic, he lost multiple friends, and had multiple tests on himself performed due to fears that his promiscuity would give him AIDS.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joel_Schumacher
Someone in a DC Comics forum made a really good post on why it's the gayest Batman movie (very well researched/written btw).
https://community.dcuniverse.com/t/batman-forever-is-the-gayest-batman-ever/54198
It might also come from the Jamaican slang term for gay men, Batty boy.
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In Jamaican Patois, batty boy (also batty bwoy, batty man, and chi chi bwoy/man) is a pejorative term often used to refer to a gay or effeminate man. The term batiman (or battyman) is also used in Belize, due to the popularity of Jamaican music.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batty_boy
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First I want to state I am not blaming the victim and Johan is totally at fault here.
*My Dad gave me the sex talk when he was really drunk, he said: “always wear a jimmy.” And somehow that has stuck with me.
But he said this not due to STD’s but because you can easily knock someone up if you don’t use a condom. Even if the woman in question is on some form of birth control...accidents happen you can still get pregnant.
I think the thing that I find most strange, besides Johan’s excessive lying. Is that two mature strangers are still willing to have sex without a condom this day in age. I mean yea... sex is awesome and all. But sometimes if I run out of condoms or something I’ll just say okay let’s try this tomorrow.
Being drunk is no excuse. I’ve been turned down numerous times when I’ve been drunk and didn’t have a condom. Just go jerk off in the bathroom or something
All this. Also, let’s just suppose it is possible for a woman to be “on birth control” but not be as steadfast in her resolve to take the pill everyday. Maybe she even thought she did, but got the days mixed up and had been taking the placebos instead of the pill. So she wasn’t even lying but what she said was not true.
Fact is if you know enough to ask someone if they are clean then you know enough to use protection. Every time. Even drunk. Even in a hotel. Even in a car. Or a bar. Whether near or far.
I’ve never been told I couldn’t have sex with a woman because neither of us had condoms because I already know without a condom it ain’t happening. I’ve had several women act indignant that I didn’t want to fuck them without a condom and all I could think was “why do you want to fuck me without one.” I don’t think you’re dirty but I know I’m clean, and I want to stay that way.
Perhaps that is the actual line here: are condoms meant to protect yourself or others? I think they are to protect me. I keep testing negative and that is the plan.
Wow, thank you
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I feel so fucking stupid. Why Batman Forever? I think I get the forever part, but why Batman?
I’m dumb.
We still need GAY to confirm, but I have two guesses.
Batman Forever was directed by Joel Schumacher, who infamously made the movies campy and added nipples to the batsuit. He was also a really promiscuous gay man.
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Schumacher said that he had had sex with between 10,000 and 20,000 men. During the AIDS epidemic, he lost multiple friends, and had multiple tests on himself performed due to fears that his promiscuity would give him AIDS.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joel_Schumacher
Someone in a DC Comics forum made a really good post on why it's the gayest Batman movie (very well researched/written btw).
https://community.dcuniverse.com/t/batman-forever-is-the-gayest-batman-ever/54198
It might also come from the Jamaican slang term for gay men, Batty boy.
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In Jamaican Patois, batty boy (also batty bwoy, batty man, and chi chi bwoy/man) is a pejorative term often used to refer to a gay or effeminate man. The term batiman (or battyman) is also used in Belize, due to the popularity of Jamaican music.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batty_boy
Thank you!
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Is Johan the first pro skater to transmit herpes?
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Is Johan the first pro skater to transmit herpes?
Probably the first NBD of his career.
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Does that lady know that you can still get pregnant from unprotected sex even if the dude pulls out?
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fuck loved this dudes skating. worlds a crazy place tho fuck this dude
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Does that lady know that you can still get pregnant from unprotected sex even if the dude pulls out?
smokin precum pacc 8)
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Does that lady know that you can still get pregnant from unprotected sex even if the dude pulls out?
That’s only on Monday-Thursday. Can’t happen on weekends. If it happened on a wknd it was probably from a toilet seat.
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First I want to state I am not blaming the victim and Johan is totally at fault here.
*My Dad gave me the sex talk when he was really drunk, he said: “always wear a jimmy.” And somehow that has stuck with me.
But he said this not due to STD’s but because you can easily knock someone up if you don’t use a condom. Even if the woman in question is on some form of birth control...accidents happen you can still get pregnant.
I think the thing that I find most strange, besides Johan’s excessive lying. Is that two mature strangers are still willing to have sex without a condom this day in age. I mean yea... sex is awesome and all. But sometimes if I run out of condoms or something I’ll just say okay let’s try this tomorrow.
Being drunk is no excuse. I’ve been turned down numerous times when I’ve been drunk and didn’t have a condom. Just go jerk off in the bathroom or something
All this. Also, let’s just suppose it is possible for a woman to be “on birth control” but not be as steadfast in her resolve to take the pill everyday. Maybe she even thought she did, but got the days mixed up and had been taking the placebos instead of the pill. So she wasn’t even lying but what she said was not true.
Fact is if you know enough to ask someone if they are clean then you know enough to use protection. Every time. Even drunk. Even in a hotel. Even in a car. Or a bar. Whether near or far.
I’ve never been told I couldn’t have sex with a woman because neither of us had condoms because I already know without a condom it ain’t happening. I’ve had several women act indignant that I didn’t want to fuck them without a condom and all I could think was “why do you want to fuck me without one.” I don’t think you’re dirty but I know I’m clean, and I want to stay that way.
Perhaps that is the actual line here: are condoms meant to protect yourself or others? I think they are to protect me. I keep testing negative and that is the plan.
Wow, thank you
Can I share this?
Oh god, I'm sure everyone in your life will be thrilled you shared this with them.
Anyway, that birth control analogy is ridiculous. There's no highly effective don't-spread-herpes drug that Johan forgot to take but thought he was taking. He's not a liar who had no idea he was lying. Also, of course you're running a risk by having unprotected sex with someone. Of course you're not fully mitigating that risk by asking your partner if they're clean. And the reason you're not is in part because of deceptive weirdos like Johan. So, sure, she ran that risk and lost. She's guilty of poor judgment. Johan is guilty of acknowledging that poor judgement, lying to her face and then knowingly transmitting to her an incurable disease. Which of these sounds worse to you? Don't try to excuse his sociopathic disregard for other's wellbeing by pointing out her poor judgement. They're not the same thing at all; one is unfortunate and regrettable, the other is monumentally fucked up and disgusting.
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First I want to state I am not blaming the victim and Johan is totally at fault here.
*My Dad gave me the sex talk when he was really drunk, he said: “always wear a jimmy.” And somehow that has stuck with me.
But he said this not due to STD’s but because you can easily knock someone up if you don’t use a condom. Even if the woman in question is on some form of birth control...accidents happen you can still get pregnant.
I think the thing that I find most strange, besides Johan’s excessive lying. Is that two mature strangers are still willing to have sex without a condom this day in age. I mean yea... sex is awesome and all. But sometimes if I run out of condoms or something I’ll just say okay let’s try this tomorrow.
Being drunk is no excuse. I’ve been turned down numerous times when I’ve been drunk and didn’t have a condom. Just go jerk off in the bathroom or something
All this. Also, let’s just suppose it is possible for a woman to be “on birth control” but not be as steadfast in her resolve to take the pill everyday. Maybe she even thought she did, but got the days mixed up and had been taking the placebos instead of the pill. So she wasn’t even lying but what she said was not true.
Fact is if you know enough to ask someone if they are clean then you know enough to use protection. Every time. Even drunk. Even in a hotel. Even in a car. Or a bar. Whether near or far.
I’ve never been told I couldn’t have sex with a woman because neither of us had condoms because I already know without a condom it ain’t happening. I’ve had several women act indignant that I didn’t want to fuck them without a condom and all I could think was “why do you want to fuck me without one.” I don’t think you’re dirty but I know I’m clean, and I want to stay that way.
Perhaps that is the actual line here: are condoms meant to protect yourself or others? I think they are to protect me. I keep testing negative and that is the plan.
Wow, thank you
Can I share this?
Exactly my point. It is unfortunate that her sentence is a lifetime of potential outbreaks and an increased risk of cancer, but she knew the risks.
My body, my choice works both ways. Of course that only applies to consensual sex, but by her own admission she consented to unprotected sex. Well, buy the ticket, take the ride.
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Does that lady know that you can still get pregnant from unprotected sex even if the dude pulls out?
...So you're just gonna ignore the fact she told him not to finish inside her and he did anyway? You're a creepy weirdo man, stay away from women and children.
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Why is that when men make mistakes or do something fucked up people always gotta bring up what the woman did wrong or what she could have done differently?
It's irrelevant to the conversation at hand. It's akin to saying girls have it coming for dressing slutty, etc.
Johan did something fucked up, period. What he did has nothing to do with what the girl did.
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And to think it would probably be racist if Johan blames some horny black girl Raping a chimpanzee 3million years ago which ultimately led to this thread(which will most likely cure all cases of herpes forever)It’s like nobody has ever given another person herpes before
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First I want to state I am not blaming the victim and Johan is totally at fault here.
*My Dad gave me the sex talk when he was really drunk, he said: “always wear a jimmy.” And somehow that has stuck with me.
But he said this not due to STD’s but because you can easily knock someone up if you don’t use a condom. Even if the woman in question is on some form of birth control...accidents happen you can still get pregnant.
I think the thing that I find most strange, besides Johan’s excessive lying. Is that two mature strangers are still willing to have sex without a condom this day in age. I mean yea... sex is awesome and all. But sometimes if I run out of condoms or something I’ll just say okay let’s try this tomorrow.
Being drunk is no excuse. I’ve been turned down numerous times when I’ve been drunk and didn’t have a condom. Just go jerk off in the bathroom or something
All this. Also, let’s just suppose it is possible for a woman to be “on birth control” but not be as steadfast in her resolve to take the pill everyday. Maybe she even thought she did, but got the days mixed up and had been taking the placebos instead of the pill. So she wasn’t even lying but what she said was not true.
Fact is if you know enough to ask someone if they are clean then you know enough to use protection. Every time. Even drunk. Even in a hotel. Even in a car. Or a bar. Whether near or far.
I’ve never been told I couldn’t have sex with a woman because neither of us had condoms because I already know without a condom it ain’t happening. I’ve had several women act indignant that I didn’t want to fuck them without a condom and all I could think was “why do you want to fuck me without one.” I don’t think you’re dirty but I know I’m clean, and I want to stay that way.
Perhaps that is the actual line here: are condoms meant to protect yourself or others? I think they are to protect me. I keep testing negative and that is the plan.
Wow, thank you
Can I share this?
Exactly my point. It is unfortunate that her sentence is a lifetime of potential outbreaks and an increased risk of cancer, but she knew the risks.
My body, my choice works both ways. Of course that only applies to consensual sex, but by her own admission she consented to unprotected sex. Well, buy the ticket, take the ride.
Yes, by her own admission she consented to unprotected sex after having been lied to in answer to a question on which her decision to have unprotectedsex hinged. What is the point you're trying to make? Is it that lying about an STI is okay because your sexual partner should fully consider the risk that you're lying about it and if she miscalculates it's her fault for not having been able to hone in on your deception?
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Has anyone made mention to the fact that this dude was a male nanny for a while? In hindsight, probably not the kind of dude you want teaching your kids about life.
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lmao is yall incels?
16 pages of yall trying to be right in qouted battles
did yall spend half that effort sending lil shorty who got played support?
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If anyone on Slap is friends with any of these girls , please find Johan before he runs back to Florida and beat his ass. Seriously fuck him up
Why don't you go beat his ass tough guy?
I live a long ways away .
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First I want to state I am not blaming the victim and Johan is totally at fault here.
*My Dad gave me the sex talk when he was really drunk, he said: “always wear a jimmy.” And somehow that has stuck with me.
But he said this not due to STD’s but because you can easily knock someone up if you don’t use a condom. Even if the woman in question is on some form of birth control...accidents happen you can still get pregnant.
I think the thing that I find most strange, besides Johan’s excessive lying. Is that two mature strangers are still willing to have sex without a condom this day in age. I mean yea... sex is awesome and all. But sometimes if I run out of condoms or something I’ll just say okay let’s try this tomorrow.
Being drunk is no excuse. I’ve been turned down numerous times when I’ve been drunk and didn’t have a condom. Just go jerk off in the bathroom or something
All this. Also, let’s just suppose it is possible for a woman to be “on birth control” but not be as steadfast in her resolve to take the pill everyday. Maybe she even thought she did, but got the days mixed up and had been taking the placebos instead of the pill. So she wasn’t even lying but what she said was not true.
Fact is if you know enough to ask someone if they are clean then you know enough to use protection. Every time. Even drunk. Even in a hotel. Even in a car. Or a bar. Whether near or far.
I’ve never been told I couldn’t have sex with a woman because neither of us had condoms because I already know without a condom it ain’t happening. I’ve had several women act indignant that I didn’t want to fuck them without a condom and all I could think was “why do you want to fuck me without one.” I don’t think you’re dirty but I know I’m clean, and I want to stay that way.
Perhaps that is the actual line here: are condoms meant to protect yourself or others? I think they are to protect me. I keep testing negative and that is the plan.
Wow, thank you
Can I share this?
Exactly my point. It is unfortunate that her sentence is a lifetime of potential outbreaks and an increased risk of cancer, but she knew the risks.
My body, my choice works both ways. Of course that only applies to consensual sex, but by her own admission she consented to unprotected sex. Well, buy the ticket, take the ride.
Is it that lying about an STI is okay because your sexual partner should fully consider the risk that you're lying about it and if she miscalculates it's her fault for not having been able to hone in on your deception?
Yes, you should fully consider the fact that your sexual partner may be less than truthful.
It’s your health, who’s hands do you want it to be in?
I’ll put mine in my own, you can leave it in the always caring about you hands of others.
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First I want to state I am not blaming the victim and Johan is totally at fault here.
*My Dad gave me the sex talk when he was really drunk, he said: “always wear a jimmy.” And somehow that has stuck with me.
But he said this not due to STD’s but because you can easily knock someone up if you don’t use a condom. Even if the woman in question is on some form of birth control...accidents happen you can still get pregnant.
I think the thing that I find most strange, besides Johan’s excessive lying. Is that two mature strangers are still willing to have sex without a condom this day in age. I mean yea... sex is awesome and all. But sometimes if I run out of condoms or something I’ll just say okay let’s try this tomorrow.
Being drunk is no excuse. I’ve been turned down numerous times when I’ve been drunk and didn’t have a condom. Just go jerk off in the bathroom or something
All this. Also, let’s just suppose it is possible for a woman to be “on birth control” but not be as steadfast in her resolve to take the pill everyday. Maybe she even thought she did, but got the days mixed up and had been taking the placebos instead of the pill. So she wasn’t even lying but what she said was not true.
Fact is if you know enough to ask someone if they are clean then you know enough to use protection. Every time. Even drunk. Even in a hotel. Even in a car. Or a bar. Whether near or far.
I’ve never been told I couldn’t have sex with a woman because neither of us had condoms because I already know without a condom it ain’t happening. I’ve had several women act indignant that I didn’t want to fuck them without a condom and all I could think was “why do you want to fuck me without one.” I don’t think you’re dirty but I know I’m clean, and I want to stay that way.
Perhaps that is the actual line here: are condoms meant to protect yourself or others? I think they are to protect me. I keep testing negative and that is the plan.
Wow, thank you
Can I share this?
Exactly my point. It is unfortunate that her sentence is a lifetime of potential outbreaks and an increased risk of cancer, but she knew the risks.
My body, my choice works both ways. Of course that only applies to consensual sex, but by her own admission she consented to unprotected sex. Well, buy the ticket, take the ride.
Is it that lying about an STI is okay because your sexual partner should fully consider the risk that you're lying about it and if she miscalculates it's her fault for not having been able to hone in on your deception?
It’s your health, who’s hands do you want it to be in?
I’ll put mine in my own, you can leave it in the always caring about you hands of others.
That's great that you take such a strict approach to your own sexual health, but what we're talking about here is whether Johan's partner agreeing to unprotected sex is in any way as bad as Johan's stone-faced lying to her about his STI in order to encourage her to have unprotected sex with him and then knowingly transmitting to her that STI.
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If anyone on Slap is friends with any of these girls , please find Johan before he runs back to Florida and beat his ass. Seriously fuck him up
Why don't you go beat his ass tough guy?
I see him around. I’ll kick him in the sack for those girls.
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Does that lady know that you can still get pregnant from unprotected sex even if the dude pulls out?
...So you're just gonna ignore the fact she told him not to finish inside her and he did anyway? You're a creepy weirdo man, stay away from women and children.
Ignore? It's pretty obvious it's discourteous to bust off when you say you won't lol. Put it together. What I gotta be Sherlock Holmes for you? It's just a fact. I remember from 7th grade sex ed you dribble before you shoot. Rules to live by.
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First I want to state I am not blaming the victim and Johan is totally at fault here.
*My Dad gave me the sex talk when he was really drunk, he said: “always wear a jimmy.” And somehow that has stuck with me.
But he said this not due to STD’s but because you can easily knock someone up if you don’t use a condom. Even if the woman in question is on some form of birth control...accidents happen you can still get pregnant.
I think the thing that I find most strange, besides Johan’s excessive lying. Is that two mature strangers are still willing to have sex without a condom this day in age. I mean yea... sex is awesome and all. But sometimes if I run out of condoms or something I’ll just say okay let’s try this tomorrow.
Being drunk is no excuse. I’ve been turned down numerous times when I’ve been drunk and didn’t have a condom. Just go jerk off in the bathroom or something
All this. Also, let’s just suppose it is possible for a woman to be “on birth control” but not be as steadfast in her resolve to take the pill everyday. Maybe she even thought she did, but got the days mixed up and had been taking the placebos instead of the pill. So she wasn’t even lying but what she said was not true.
Fact is if you know enough to ask someone if they are clean then you know enough to use protection. Every time. Even drunk. Even in a hotel. Even in a car. Or a bar. Whether near or far.
I’ve never been told I couldn’t have sex with a woman because neither of us had condoms because I already know without a condom it ain’t happening. I’ve had several women act indignant that I didn’t want to fuck them without a condom and all I could think was “why do you want to fuck me without one.” I don’t think you’re dirty but I know I’m clean, and I want to stay that way.
Perhaps that is the actual line here: are condoms meant to protect yourself or others? I think they are to protect me. I keep testing negative and that is the plan.
Wow, thank you
Can I share this?
Exactly my point. It is unfortunate that her sentence is a lifetime of potential outbreaks and an increased risk of cancer, but she knew the risks.
My body, my choice works both ways. Of course that only applies to consensual sex, but by her own admission she consented to unprotected sex. Well, buy the ticket, take the ride.
Is it that lying about an STI is okay because your sexual partner should fully consider the risk that you're lying about it and if she miscalculates it's her fault for not having been able to hone in on your deception?
It’s your health, who’s hands do you want it to be in?
I’ll put mine in my own, you can leave it in the always caring about you hands of others.
This is not an issue of you being right or wrong, because in another conversation you’d be right in my book.
It’s problematic when you focus on what the girl did wrong because it completely ignores any wrongdoing on Johan’s part. We don’t need to talk about the girl not practicing safe sex because we all know this, it’s taught in schools, it’s common knowledge. The issue at hand is that men get away with being shitty all the time with out any repercussions or get away with a consequence incongruent to what they do. Diverting attention from Johan’s action won’t bring about any change, all it does is put all the responsibility on women in these situations.
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Misleading someone for sex is considered rape if the intercourse wouldn’t have been wanted otherwise. Idiot.
like imagine "canceling" someone over this
you got herpes, big friggin deal
who the hell has "consensual unprotected sex" with strangers anyway
framing this as "rape - sexual assault" is just a level of degeneracy I didn't know was possible
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And by misleading I mean misleading them to think you’re a healthy and safe sexual partner. Of course there can be conjecture to compare this to a million other forms of “okay” misleading like pretending you’re rich or really like the person, but when it comes to physical health and well being misleading someone to catch a lifelong infection is rape. They didn’t agree to or sign up for that.
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like imagine "canceling" someone over this
you got herpes, big friggin deal
who the hell has "consensual unprotected sex" with strangers anyway
framing this as "rape - sexual assault" is just a level of degeneracy I didn't know was possible
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And by misleading I mean misleading them to think you’re a healthy and safe sexual partner. Of course there can be conjecture to compare this to a million other forms of “okay” misleading like pretending you’re rich or really like the person, but when it comes to physical health and well being misleading someone to catch a lifelong infection is rape. They didn’t agree to or sign up for that. Expand Quote
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like imagine "canceling" someone over this
you got herpes, big friggin deal
who the hell has "consensual unprotected sex" with strangers anyway
framing this as "rape - sexual assault" is just a level of degeneracy I didn't know was possible
I’ve been pretty clear in my indictment of this dipshit. My solution protects everybody involved. In the “don’t knowingly spread disease around” there is an end a round. Don’t get tested. Then it’s not a lie. Then you can just fuck until your dick falls off.
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what johan did is fucked, and he deserves to be punished, but what i hate about this cancel culture is how it implies that humans are evil, cannot be redeemed, and should not be forgiven.
maybe he could have had a better apology, actually reached out to her rather than wave his apology on instagram, but he is now fucked to make a decent living. he likely won’t be able to get a job in the industry anymore, and if any future employers google his name, that’s a no go on the job. WKND immediately kicking him off was far too reactive. they could have punished him, some how benefited emily or a good cause by hopefully donating his wages/board sales to some safe sex cause or shit, and had him go to therapy or something to LEARN.
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what johan did is fucked, and he deserves to be punished, but what i hate about this cancel culture is how it implies that humans are evil, cannot be redeemed, and should not be forgiven.
maybe he could have had a better apology, actually reached out to her rather than wave his apology on instagram, but he is now fucked to make a decent living. he likely won’t be able to get a job in the industry anymore, and if any future employers google his name, that’s a no go on the job. WKND immediately kicking him off was far too reactive. they could have punished him, some how benefited emily or a good cause by hopefully donating his wages/board sales to some safe sex cause or shit, and had him go to therapy or something to LEARN.
No, he’s a scumbag and possible psychopath. Fuck him.
(And wrap your dick/make your new best friend wrap his.)
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what johan did is fucked, and he deserves to be punished, but what i hate about this cancel culture is how it implies that humans are evil, cannot be redeemed, and should not be forgiven.
maybe he could have had a better apology, actually reached out to her rather than wave his apology on instagram, but he is now fucked to make a decent living. he likely won’t be able to get a job in the industry anymore, and if any future employers google his name, that’s a no go on the job. WKND immediately kicking him off was far too reactive. they could have punished him, some how benefited emily or a good cause by hopefully donating his wages/board sales to some safe sex cause or shit, and had him go to therapy or something to LEARN.
But where was all this idealistic thinking when it actually happened? When WKND knew about Johan’s behavior? (A while back ago, it seems)
Calling people out on social media like this is a build up of unresolved inappropriate behavior. Think Harvey Weinstein, Bill Cosby. The allegations took years to surface, and even then there was a process before consequences were handed out.
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what johan did is fucked, and he deserves to be punished, but what i hate about this cancel culture is how it implies that humans are evil, cannot be redeemed, and should not be forgiven.
maybe he could have had a better apology, actually reached out to her rather than wave his apology on instagram, but he is now fucked to make a decent living. he likely won’t be able to get a job in the industry anymore, and if any future employers google his name, that’s a no go on the job. WKND immediately kicking him off was far too reactive. they could have punished him, some how benefited emily or a good cause by hopefully donating his wages/board sales to some safe sex cause or shit, and had him go to therapy or something to LEARN.
But where was all this idealistic thinking when it actually happened? When WKND knew about Johan’s behavior? (A while back ago, it seems)
Calling people out on social media like this is a build up of unresolved inappropriate behavior. Think Harvey Weinstein, Bill Cosby. The allegations took years to surface, and even then there was a process before consequences were handed out.
it seems like they knew he had STDs, but it's uncertain whether or not they knew he was lying to these women. obviously WKND could have done better, I really think they fucked up on all levels, but does the world really become a better place by reacting? all parties should have been more proactive to idk, fucking take care of them selves and look out for their fellow human
Even if we pretended to humor the idea of "redemption", it's unreasonable to think that can occur without consequence.
I didn't say Johan should go without consequences, I think he should be punished.
Side note, did Cory Kennedy get cancelled after that whole ordeal? he fucking killed a dude, and yet it seems like for the most part people have stood by him in some capacity
Edit: the law seems more fair in that case, rather than this MOB mentality out for johan. Cory is serving his time, and still can make something of himself afterwards, he's had time in the PEN to think about his actions and hopefully learn from his mistakes. Johan surely will learn something, but again, good luck finding a job jojo
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First I want to state I am not blaming the victim and Johan is totally at fault here.
*My Dad gave me the sex talk when he was really drunk, he said: “always wear a jimmy.” And somehow that has stuck with me.
But he said this not due to STD’s but because you can easily knock someone up if you don’t use a condom. Even if the woman in question is on some form of birth control...accidents happen you can still get pregnant.
I think the thing that I find most strange, besides Johan’s excessive lying. Is that two mature strangers are still willing to have sex without a condom this day in age. I mean yea... sex is awesome and all. But sometimes if I run out of condoms or something I’ll just say okay let’s try this tomorrow.
Being drunk is no excuse. I’ve been turned down numerous times when I’ve been drunk and didn’t have a condom. Just go jerk off in the bathroom or something
All this. Also, let’s just suppose it is possible for a woman to be “on birth control” but not be as steadfast in her resolve to take the pill everyday. Maybe she even thought she did, but got the days mixed up and had been taking the placebos instead of the pill. So she wasn’t even lying but what she said was not true.
Fact is if you know enough to ask someone if they are clean then you know enough to use protection. Every time. Even drunk. Even in a hotel. Even in a car. Or a bar. Whether near or far.
I’ve never been told I couldn’t have sex with a woman because neither of us had condoms because I already know without a condom it ain’t happening. I’ve had several women act indignant that I didn’t want to fuck them without a condom and all I could think was “why do you want to fuck me without one.” I don’t think you’re dirty but I know I’m clean, and I want to stay that way.
Perhaps that is the actual line here: are condoms meant to protect yourself or others? I think they are to protect me. I keep testing negative and that is the plan.
Wow, thank you
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Exactly my point. It is unfortunate that her sentence is a lifetime of potential outbreaks and an increased risk of cancer, but she knew the risks.
My body, my choice works both ways. Of course that only applies to consensual sex, but by her own admission she consented to unprotected sex. Well, buy the ticket, take the ride.
Is it that lying about an STI is okay because your sexual partner should fully consider the risk that you're lying about it and if she miscalculates it's her fault for not having been able to hone in on your deception?
It’s your health, who’s hands do you want it to be in?
I’ll put mine in my own, you can leave it in the always caring about you hands of others.
This is not an issue of you being right or wrong, because in another conversation you’d be right in my book.
It’s problematic when you focus on what the girl did wrong because it completely ignores any wrongdoing on Johan’s part. We don’t need to talk about the girl not practicing safe sex because we all know this, it’s taught in schools, it’s common knowledge. The issue at hand is that men get away with being shitty all the time with out any repercussions or get away with a consequence incongruent to what they do. Diverting attention from Johan’s action won’t bring about any change, all it does is put all the responsibility on women in these situations.
I agree with you completely. Except for when you say this:
“We don’t need to talk about the girl not practicing safe sex because we all know this, it’s taught in schools, it’s common knowledge.“
People still seem to engage in unsafe sex methods even though it’s common knowledge that we should be more safe. Is this part of the human condition of being in the moment or was it the alcohol.
I’m not sure, but to take away the agency of the woman in this scenario is not the right choice. It takes two to tango... and from what I’ve read so far it seems people keep saying that Johan is so charming and coaxed them into having sex. Maybe he did, maybe he manipulated them into having sex with him.
But these women have agency, and are adults who can and are allowed to make decisions for themselves. Why anyone decided to have sex with the guy who skateboards and has bad teeth is beyond me. But it seems women wanted him and wanted to be around him. And that’s a decision they made and no one else.
Johan needs to be sued for his wrongs. Period.
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what johan did is fucked, and he deserves to be punished, but what i hate about this cancel culture is how it implies that humans are evil, cannot be redeemed, and should not be forgiven.
maybe he could have had a better apology, actually reached out to her rather than wave his apology on instagram, but he is now fucked to make a decent living. he likely won’t be able to get a job in the industry anymore, and if any future employers google his name, that’s a no go on the job. WKND immediately kicking him off was far too reactive. they could have punished him, some how benefited emily or a good cause by hopefully donating his wages/board sales to some safe sex cause or shit, and had him go to therapy or something to LEARN.
But where was all this idealistic thinking when it actually happened? When WKND knew about Johan’s behavior? (A while back ago, it seems)
Calling people out on social media like this is a build up of unresolved inappropriate behavior. Think Harvey Weinstein, Bill Cosby. The allegations took years to surface, and even then there was a process before consequences were handed out.
it seems like they knew he had STDs, but it's uncertain whether or not they knew he was lying to these women. obviously WKND could have done better, I really think they fucked up on all levels, but does the world really become a better place by reacting? all parties should have been more proactive to idk, fucking take care of them selves and look out for their fellow human
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Even if we pretended to humor the idea of "redemption", it's unreasonable to think that can occur without consequence.
I didn't say Johan should go without consequences, I think he should be punished.
Then what's the problem here? People like to whine about "cancel culture" as if it's this relentless boogie man or something when in reality it's just people rightfully having a reaction to abhorrent behavior. If losing a skateboard sponsor and having people say mean things about you on the internet is the worst thing that happens to Johan then he is getting off far too easy.
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Everyone's watching the roast, to see what you will do
Everyone's looking at you, saying no
Everyone's wondering, will you flare up tonight
Everyone's trying to get tested right, tested right
Everybody's quitting riding for weekend
Everybody wants to yell at Grant
Everybody's goin' off the deep end
Everybody thinks they deserve a second chance, oh
You want a piece of my herp
You better not look at my face's derp
You wanna be clean tomorrow
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what johan did is fucked, and he deserves to be punished, but what i hate about this cancel culture is how it implies that humans are evil, cannot be redeemed, and should not be forgiven.
maybe he could have had a better apology, actually reached out to her rather than wave his apology on instagram, but he is now fucked to make a decent living. he likely won’t be able to get a job in the industry anymore, and if any future employers google his name, that’s a no go on the job. WKND immediately kicking him off was far too reactive. they could have punished him, some how benefited emily or a good cause by hopefully donating his wages/board sales to some safe sex cause or shit, and had him go to therapy or something to LEARN.
But where was all this idealistic thinking when it actually happened? When WKND knew about Johan’s behavior? (A while back ago, it seems)
Calling people out on social media like this is a build up of unresolved inappropriate behavior. Think Harvey Weinstein, Bill Cosby. The allegations took years to surface, and even then there was a process before consequences were handed out.
it seems like they knew he had STDs, but it's uncertain whether or not they knew he was lying to these women. obviously WKND could have done better, I really think they fucked up on all levels, but does the world really become a better place by reacting? all parties should have been more proactive to idk, fucking take care of them selves and look out for their fellow human
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Even if we pretended to humor the idea of "redemption", it's unreasonable to think that can occur without consequence.
I didn't say Johan should go without consequences, I think he should be punished.
Side note, did Cory Kennedy get cancelled after that whole ordeal? he fucking killed a dude, and yet it seems like for the most part people have stood by him in some capacity
Edit: the law seems more fair in that case, rather than this MOB mentality out for johan. Cory is serving his time, and still can make something of himself afterwards, he's had time in the PEN to think about his actions and hopefully learn from his mistakes. Johan surely will learn something, but again, good luck finding a job jojo
We live in a society where, as a man, Johan made the decision to lie about having an STD, and he didn’t rectify that on his own, and people he knew didn’t hold him accountable to that either and nothing happened until he got ousted on social media. He did it more than once too.
What more do you want women to do? Hold his hand on the way to therapy? Forgiveness is a topic for later.
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First I want to state I am not blaming the victim and Johan is totally at fault here.
*My Dad gave me the sex talk when he was really drunk, he said: “always wear a jimmy.” And somehow that has stuck with me.
But he said this not due to STD’s but because you can easily knock someone up if you don’t use a condom. Even if the woman in question is on some form of birth control...accidents happen you can still get pregnant.
I think the thing that I find most strange, besides Johan’s excessive lying. Is that two mature strangers are still willing to have sex without a condom this day in age. I mean yea... sex is awesome and all. But sometimes if I run out of condoms or something I’ll just say okay let’s try this tomorrow.
Being drunk is no excuse. I’ve been turned down numerous times when I’ve been drunk and didn’t have a condom. Just go jerk off in the bathroom or something
All this. Also, let’s just suppose it is possible for a woman to be “on birth control” but not be as steadfast in her resolve to take the pill everyday. Maybe she even thought she did, but got the days mixed up and had been taking the placebos instead of the pill. So she wasn’t even lying but what she said was not true.
Fact is if you know enough to ask someone if they are clean then you know enough to use protection. Every time. Even drunk. Even in a hotel. Even in a car. Or a bar. Whether near or far.
I’ve never been told I couldn’t have sex with a woman because neither of us had condoms because I already know without a condom it ain’t happening. I’ve had several women act indignant that I didn’t want to fuck them without a condom and all I could think was “why do you want to fuck me without one.” I don’t think you’re dirty but I know I’m clean, and I want to stay that way.
Perhaps that is the actual line here: are condoms meant to protect yourself or others? I think they are to protect me. I keep testing negative and that is the plan.
Wow, thank you
Can I share this?
Exactly my point. It is unfortunate that her sentence is a lifetime of potential outbreaks and an increased risk of cancer, but she knew the risks.
My body, my choice works both ways. Of course that only applies to consensual sex, but by her own admission she consented to unprotected sex. Well, buy the ticket, take the ride.
Is it that lying about an STI is okay because your sexual partner should fully consider the risk that you're lying about it and if she miscalculates it's her fault for not having been able to hone in on your deception?
It’s your health, who’s hands do you want it to be in?
I’ll put mine in my own, you can leave it in the always caring about you hands of others.
This is not an issue of you being right or wrong, because in another conversation you’d be right in my book.
It’s problematic when you focus on what the girl did wrong because it completely ignores any wrongdoing on Johan’s part. We don’t need to talk about the girl not practicing safe sex because we all know this, it’s taught in schools, it’s common knowledge. The issue at hand is that men get away with being shitty all the time with out any repercussions or get away with a consequence incongruent to what they do. Diverting attention from Johan’s action won’t bring about any change, all it does is put all the responsibility on women in these situations.
I agree with you completely. Except for when you say this:
“We don’t need to talk about the girl not practicing safe sex because we all know this, it’s taught in schools, it’s common knowledge.“
People still seem to engage in unsafe sex methods even though it’s common knowledge that we should be more safe. Is this part of the human condition of being in the moment or was it the alcohol.
I’m not sure, but to take away the agency of the woman in this scenario is not the right choice. It takes two to tango... and from what I’ve read so far it seems people keep saying that Johan is so charming and coaxed them into having sex. Maybe he did, maybe he manipulated them into having sex with him.
But these women have agency, and are adults who can and are allowed to make decisions for themselves. Why anyone decided to have sex with the guy who skateboards and has bad teeth is beyond me. But it seems women wanted him and wanted to be around him. And that’s a decision they made and no one else.
Johan needs to be sued for his wrongs. Period.
You’re right, I just meant that in this context it’s irrelevant and detracts from the actual issue at hand
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Everyone's watching the roast, to see what you will do
Everyone's looking at you, saying no
Everyone's wondering, will you flare up tonight
Everyone's trying to get tested right, tested right
Everybody's quitting riding for weekend
Everybody wants to yell at Grant
Everybody's goin' off the deep end
Everybody thinks they deserve a second chance, oh
You want a piece of my herp
You better not look at my face's derp
You wanna be clean tomorrow
Come on baby the sore probably won't grow
Hot fire emoji 11/10
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Slap court is in full session . Johan is probably reading this and shaking in his wart ridden body.
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hey Johan,
Berra called. He wants his fake spots back.
Also, xenu can cure STDs by raising your thetan levels. Report to the nearest Scientology center immediately.
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And to think it would probably be racist if Johan blames some horny black girl Raping a chimpanzee 3million years ago which ultimately led to this thread(which will most likely cure all cases of herpes forever)It’s like nobody has ever given another person herpes before
WHOAH. What in the FUCK are you on about here? Did you guys miss this? You must all have this dipshit on ignore
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And to think it would probably be racist if Johan blames some horny black girl Raping a chimpanzee 3million years ago which ultimately led to this thread(which will most likely cure all cases of herpes forever)It’s like nobody has ever given another person herpes before
Yeah what the fuck man . Seriously uncool.
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Have any of you geniuses thought to ask a lawyer about matters like this? From the sounds of it, youre all speculating whats right and whats wrong. Im not a lawyer, i dunno shit. But in court id assume 99.9%, Johan would get fucked..and not in the fun way. Id ask my lawyer friend but i recently told him to get fucked (also not in the fun way)
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what johan did is fucked, and he deserves to be punished, but what i hate about this cancel culture is how it implies that humans are evil, cannot be redeemed, and should not be forgiven.
maybe he could have had a better apology, actually reached out to her rather than wave his apology on instagram, but he is now fucked to make a decent living. he likely won’t be able to get a job in the industry anymore, and if any future employers google his name, that’s a no go on the job. WKND immediately kicking him off was far too reactive. they could have punished him, some how benefited emily or a good cause by hopefully donating his wages/board sales to some safe sex cause or shit, and had him go to therapy or something to LEARN.
But where was all this idealistic thinking when it actually happened? When WKND knew about Johan’s behavior? (A while back ago, it seems)
Calling people out on social media like this is a build up of unresolved inappropriate behavior. Think Harvey Weinstein, Bill Cosby. The allegations took years to surface, and even then there was a process before consequences were handed out.
it seems like they knew he had STDs, but it's uncertain whether or not they knew he was lying to these women. obviously WKND could have done better, I really think they fucked up on all levels, but does the world really become a better place by reacting? all parties should have been more proactive to idk, fucking take care of them selves and look out for their fellow human
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Even if we pretended to humor the idea of "redemption", it's unreasonable to think that can occur without consequence.
I didn't say Johan should go without consequences, I think he should be punished.
Side note, did Cory Kennedy get cancelled after that whole ordeal? he fucking killed a dude, and yet it seems like for the most part people have stood by him in some capacity
Edit: the law seems more fair in that case, rather than this MOB mentality out for johan. Cory is serving his time, and still can make something of himself afterwards, he's had time in the PEN to think about his actions and hopefully learn from his mistakes. Johan surely will learn something, but again, good luck finding a job jojo
Cory Kennedy lost his highest-paying sponsor (Nike), a shit-ton of money he had (settling out of court) and his freedom for a long time. I also bet he lives with alot more guilt than Johan does. And, while what he did had way worse consequences, I don't think you can argue it was malicious. Not that it really matters, Cory Kennedy is one of the best skaters around who prior to his incident would have been pro for any team he wanted, not really comparable to Johan's status in the industry.
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Have any of you geniuses thought to ask a lawyer about matters like this? From the sounds of it, youre all speculating whats right and whats wrong. Im not a lawyer, i dunno shit. But in court id assume 99.9%, Johan would get fucked..and not in the fun way. Id ask my lawyer friend but i recently told him to get fucked (also not in the fun way)
It doesn't take a fucking expert to determine right from wrong, bunghole.
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And to think it would probably be racist if Johan blames some horny black girl Raping a chimpanzee 3million years ago which ultimately led to this thread(which will most likely cure all cases of herpes forever)It’s like nobody has ever given another person herpes before
should have just left it buried
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Have any of you geniuses thought to ask a lawyer about matters like this? From the sounds of it, youre all speculating whats right and whats wrong. Im not a lawyer, i dunno shit. But in court id assume 99.9%, Johan would get fucked..and not in the fun way. Id ask my lawyer friend but i recently told him to get fucked (also not in the fun way)
The fuck you coming at me sideways for you gimp? You got the extra chromosome for sure homie. Since youre too stupid to understand what i was getting at i will explain for you :) anyway, perhaps since none of us are educated enough on the laws and loopholes and what not, maybe it would be wise to seek the opinion of a professional who may or may not have the knowledge and education to explain to us how a situation like this would uphold in a court room..where as i said, im 99.9% sure, johan would be convicted of some crime based off the simple logic many of the slap users have agreed upon..consent wouldnt have been given had she known he was not clean..risk or not. Sooo when i say all you are doing is speculating whats right and whats wrong, youre not really breaking it down fully. No shit its fucking wrong, but some of you are still trying to defend this fuckin turd.. Might trademark this but, EAT SHIT AND DIE.
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This thread tells me SLAP has a bunch of incels posting here. And that Johan is a dirty dick piece of shit.
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This thread tells me SLAP has a bunch of incels posting here. And that Johan is a dirty dick piece of shit.
There's a crazy amount of incels in skateboarding!!
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Does that lady know that you can still get pregnant from unprotected sex even if the dude pulls out?
...So you're just gonna ignore the fact she told him not to finish inside her and he did anyway? You're a creepy weirdo man, stay away from women and children.
Ignore? It's pretty obvious it's discourteous to bust off when you say you won't lol. Put it together. What I gotta be Sherlock Holmes for you? It's just a fact. I remember from 7th grade sex ed you dribble before you shoot. Rules to live by.
Dude be quiet you're the lamest dude on this site. lol... you haven't like lol... hooked with with anyone besides your hand in a long time bud. Just because you almost lost a finger trying to give yourself a stranger and sat on your hand cutting off circulation doesn't mean you can talk about sex rules to live by. like lol. lol. lol.
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This thread tells me SLAP has a bunch of incels posting here. And that Johan is a dirty dick piece of shit.
The intense usage of the word "gimp" as the ultimate insult is a dead give away.
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This thread tells me SLAP has a bunch of incels posting here. And that Johan is a dirty dick piece of shit.
Is gimp like 2020 cuck?
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Does that lady know that you can still get pregnant from unprotected sex even if the dude pulls out?
...So you're just gonna ignore the fact she told him not to finish inside her and he did anyway? You're a creepy weirdo man, stay away from women and children.
Ignore? It's pretty obvious it's discourteous to bust off when you say you won't lol. Put it together. What I gotta be Sherlock Holmes for you? It's just a fact. I remember from 7th grade sex ed you dribble before you shoot. Rules to live by.
Dude be quiet you're the lamest dude on this site. lol... you haven't like lol... hooked with with anyone besides your hand in a long time bud. Just because you almost lost a finger trying to give yourself a stranger and sat on your hand cutting off circulation doesn't mean you can talk about sex rules to live by. like lol. lol. lol.
There's a legitimate chance a woman can get pregnant from unprotected sex even with pulling out, pretty basic concept...
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First I want to state I am not blaming the victim and Johan is totally at fault here.
*My Dad gave me the sex talk when he was really drunk, he said: “always wear a jimmy.” And somehow that has stuck with me.
But he said this not due to STD’s but because you can easily knock someone up if you don’t use a condom. Even if the woman in question is on some form of birth control...accidents happen you can still get pregnant.
I think the thing that I find most strange, besides Johan’s excessive lying. Is that two mature strangers are still willing to have sex without a condom this day in age. I mean yea... sex is awesome and all. But sometimes if I run out of condoms or something I’ll just say okay let’s try this tomorrow.
Being drunk is no excuse. I’ve been turned down numerous times when I’ve been drunk and didn’t have a condom. Just go jerk off in the bathroom or something
All this. Also, let’s just suppose it is possible for a woman to be “on birth control” but not be as steadfast in her resolve to take the pill everyday. Maybe she even thought she did, but got the days mixed up and had been taking the placebos instead of the pill. So she wasn’t even lying but what she said was not true.
Fact is if you know enough to ask someone if they are clean then you know enough to use protection. Every time. Even drunk. Even in a hotel. Even in a car. Or a bar. Whether near or far.
I’ve never been told I couldn’t have sex with a woman because neither of us had condoms because I already know without a condom it ain’t happening. I’ve had several women act indignant that I didn’t want to fuck them without a condom and all I could think was “why do you want to fuck me without one.” I don’t think you’re dirty but I know I’m clean, and I want to stay that way.
Perhaps that is the actual line here: are condoms meant to protect yourself or others? I think they are to protect me. I keep testing negative and that is the plan.
Wow, thank you
Can I share this?
Exactly my point. It is unfortunate that her sentence is a lifetime of potential outbreaks and an increased risk of cancer, but she knew the risks.
My body, my choice works both ways. Of course that only applies to consensual sex, but by her own admission she consented to unprotected sex. Well, buy the ticket, take the ride.
Is it that lying about an STI is okay because your sexual partner should fully consider the risk that you're lying about it and if she miscalculates it's her fault for not having been able to hone in on your deception?
It’s your health, who’s hands do you want it to be in?
I’ll put mine in my own, you can leave it in the always caring about you hands of others.
Why is there so much emphasis on what the girl did “wrong” here in all your responses? Why is that even a discussion point at all in this? Let’s just change the scenario for a second and pretend that she actually said no to sleeping with him and did not catch herpes; does that change the fact that he tried to lie about having herpes to sleep with her knowing that there was a good chance that he would spread it to her but he went along and tried anyways? Would that negate him of any wrong doings in having the intent to do that in the first place even if she wouldve said no?
If a man tried to lure a little boy into his van to torture and kill him, but the boy said no, does that make the man any less bad for having had the intent to harm the boy to begin with even though the boy said no and it actually didn’t happen? No? The man is still a bad person regardless right? Then why is what the girl did wrong here even being brought up at all? If in that hypothetical situation the boy actually did get captured and killed by that man, who are you going to focus more attention on? The man for doing something horrible, or the boy for making a dumb choice by even entering the van? Would “yeah that man is horrible for what he did wrong, but that boy..... lemme tell ya, he shouldn’t have let himself get lured into the van, you make a dumb choice, ya pay the price” have been your response?
Back to Johan and the girl. In an alternate universe if she would’ve said no, but word got out that he tried to spread his herpes to her anyways, what would your response have been then? Probably something along the lines of “johan is a shitty person for doing this”, correct? The girl would’ve said no, so you would have nothing to criticize her on in that scenario, you’d only be focusing on the important point here which is Johan is scum for even trying to spread it to her to begin with; regardless on if she said yes or no in both scenarios Johan still comes out a creep.... So why then is the fact that she actually said yes to sleeping with him in real life and did end up catching herpes from him in real life and whether or not she should have slept with him or not even a talking point here? it doesn’t change the fact that Johan was in the wrong; you’re just putting a girl down for no reason at this point. The rights or wrongs of her choice she made that night are not important, because regardless of the choice she made it still doesn’t change the fact that Johan was in the wrong.
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This thread tells me SLAP has a bunch of incels posting here. And that Johan is a dirty dick piece of shit.
Like 95 when Pulp Fiction mainstreamed it
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First I want to state I am not blaming the victim and Johan is totally at fault here.
*My Dad gave me the sex talk when he was really drunk, he said: “always wear a jimmy.” And somehow that has stuck with me.
But he said this not due to STD’s but because you can easily knock someone up if you don’t use a condom. Even if the woman in question is on some form of birth control...accidents happen you can still get pregnant.
I think the thing that I find most strange, besides Johan’s excessive lying. Is that two mature strangers are still willing to have sex without a condom this day in age. I mean yea... sex is awesome and all. But sometimes if I run out of condoms or something I’ll just say okay let’s try this tomorrow.
Being drunk is no excuse. I’ve been turned down numerous times when I’ve been drunk and didn’t have a condom. Just go jerk off in the bathroom or something
All this. Also, let’s just suppose it is possible for a woman to be “on birth control” but not be as steadfast in her resolve to take the pill everyday. Maybe she even thought she did, but got the days mixed up and had been taking the placebos instead of the pill. So she wasn’t even lying but what she said was not true.
Fact is if you know enough to ask someone if they are clean then you know enough to use protection. Every time. Even drunk. Even in a hotel. Even in a car. Or a bar. Whether near or far.
I’ve never been told I couldn’t have sex with a woman because neither of us had condoms because I already know without a condom it ain’t happening. I’ve had several women act indignant that I didn’t want to fuck them without a condom and all I could think was “why do you want to fuck me without one.” I don’t think you’re dirty but I know I’m clean, and I want to stay that way.
Perhaps that is the actual line here: are condoms meant to protect yourself or others? I think they are to protect me. I keep testing negative and that is the plan.
Wow, thank you
Can I share this?
Exactly my point. It is unfortunate that her sentence is a lifetime of potential outbreaks and an increased risk of cancer, but she knew the risks.
My body, my choice works both ways. Of course that only applies to consensual sex, but by her own admission she consented to unprotected sex. Well, buy the ticket, take the ride.
Is it that lying about an STI is okay because your sexual partner should fully consider the risk that you're lying about it and if she miscalculates it's her fault for not having been able to hone in on your deception?
It’s your health, who’s hands do you want it to be in?
I’ll put mine in my own, you can leave it in the always caring about you hands of others.
If a man tried to lure a little boy into his van to torture and kill him, but the boy said no, does that make the man any less bad for having had the intent to harm the boy to begin with even though the boy said no and it actually didn’t happen? No? The man is still a bad person regardless right? Then why is what the girl did wrong here even being brought up at all? If in that hypothetical situation the boy actually did get captured and killed by that man, who are you going to focus more attention on? The man for doing something horrible, or the boy for making a dumb choice by even entering the van? Would “yeah that man is horrible for what he did wrong, but that boy..... lemme tell ya, he shouldn’t have let himself get lured into the van, you make a dumb choice, ya pay the price” have been your response?
Back to Johan and the girl. In an alternate universe if she would’ve said no, but word got out that he tried to spread his herpes to her anyways, what would your response have been then? Probably something along the lines of “johan is a shitty person for doing this”, correct? The girl would’ve said no, so you would have nothing to criticize her on in that scenario, you’d only be focusing on the important point here which is Johan is scum for even trying to spread it to her to begin with; regardless on if she said yes or no in both scenarios Johan still comes out a creep.... So why then is the fact that she actually said yes to sleeping with him in real life and did end up catching herpes from him in real life and whether or not she should have slept with him or not even a talking point here? it doesn’t change the fact that Johan was in the wrong; you’re just putting a girl down for no reason at this point. The rights or wrongs of her choice she made that night are not important, because regardless of the choice she made it still doesn’t change the fact that Johan was in the wrong.
I like the way you put that. I agree that Johan is very much in the wrong. Lying about your std status to prospective partners is unacceptable and he should be outed and canceled, perhaps even moreso than anyone else that has been canceled thus far (even Biebel). I hope people learn a lesson from his wrongdoing and do not emulate his behavior. I also hope his victims finds some level of closure and a path to a life as unaffected by this std as possible.
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I’ve encountered this a few times in my life, and I am still at a loss as to what people are thinking.
1) this he/she said they were clean and I didn’t need a condom. That’s fucking idiotic. If I have to explain why that is idiotic you are an idiot. I’ll bet this girl can explain exactly how it actually doesn’t feel better without a condom. Especially the open sores.
2) if a woman says you don’t need to wear a condom YOU ABSOLUTELY DO HAVE TO WEAR A CONDOM. or gtfo.
I don’t mean this to shame the girl. Fuck this goofus for infecting somebody else. She does have half the blame though. I know there are zero women reading slap, but girls, make dudes cover that shit. They might be clean, but they might be dirty. Assume the worst.
Knowingly giving someone an std that will stay with them for life should be a criminal offense.
I'm pretty sure there is such things as Uber and Taxi's. They weren't friends, she knew what she was getting into. Sounds like her boyfriend found out she gave him the Herp and is now back peddling. Johan is still to blame here as well if he truly knew he had an STD. "You know how they say don't drink and drive.... well.....don't drink and bone!!!".
Ugh. You are deplorable.
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This thread tells me SLAP has a bunch of incels posting here. And that Johan is a dirty dick piece of shit.
Like 95 when Pulp Fiction mainstreamed it
Personally I like to shout "Gimpo gimpo giiiimmpo!" like Dora the Explora.
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This thread tells me SLAP has a bunch of incels posting here. And that Johan is a dirty dick piece of shit.
Starting with the guy with an anime Avatar
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This thread tells me SLAP has a bunch of incels posting here. And that Johan is a dirty dick piece of shit.
Starting with the guy with an anime Avatar
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im not the 1 here defending a rapist like you dummy saying what happened here wasnt rape is stupid even for a simpleton potatohead like you ya victim blaming incel rat piece of shit
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im not the 1 here defending a rapist like you dummy saying what happened here wasnt rape is stupid even for a simpleton potatohead like you ya victim blaming incel rat piece of shit
I'm not defending him.
Incell like you wouldn't know much about sex.
How's the anime collection coming along ?
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you are so fuckin stupid its unreal garnet literally said it was him but keep barking ya regular incel go downplay what happened and say it wasnt rape again with your fedora on
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you are so fuckin stupid its unreal garnet literally said it was him but keep barking ya regular incel
You and Garnett seen very chummy then.
How close? Are you two intimate?
Sharing your anime collection's
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wishful thinking you filthy inbred but for real go chill with roastbeef hes the only person who fucks with you here and he a cop which is perfect cuz you a rat on top of being a rapist defending incel
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wishful thinking you filthy inbred incel go chill with roastbeef hes the only person who fucks with you here and he a cop
Good boy
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shut up you incel rat go flood some survivor messageboards and argue with the victims there whatever you doing on a board dont count anyway
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dont worry richard you can say good boy everytime you get bitchslapped you still my son
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“Why is there so much emphasis on what the girl did “wrong” here in all your responses?”
Because two adults decided to engage in a sexual act. And since it takes two to tango, both adults have agency in the situation.
The fact remains that Johan is absolutely the main culprit here, and he needs to be prosecuted in a court of law for his misdeeds.
But the woman in question also needs to be mentioned because she decided to have unsafe sex with another adult.
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pretty impressed by the amount of bad takes but then again, this is the internet
knowingly having an STD and not disclosing is fucked, full stop
"it takes two to tango" doesn't apply if one party is withholding important information
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This thread tells me SLAP has a bunch of incels posting here. And that Johan is a dirty dick piece of shit.
There's a crazy amount of incels in skateboarding!!
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In my experience, telling a potential sexual partner you have an STI is not that awkward. It’s more awkward when they finally do a biopsy and you find out those bumps on your dick were just hair follicles plugged with keratin, and you never really had an STI to begin with.
Life is funny, sometimes.
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Sounds like Priya has her next bf picked out. A sexual assaulter with STDs, he’s also confirmed to have punched holes in walls. It’s like patch and Andy combined, plus it’s not like you can get more herpes.
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In my experience, telling a potential sexual partner you have an STI is not that awkward. It’s more awkward when they finally do a biopsy and you find out those bumps on your dick were just hair follicles plugged with keratin, and you never really had an STI to begin with.
Life is funny, sometimes.
So you just assumed you had an sti without getting tested? I guess props to you for assuming the worst and acting accordingly. Kind of.
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But the woman in question also needs to be mentioned because she decided to have unsafe sex with another adult.
No, no she doesn’t.
Because regardless on whether she said yes or no to the sex the end result is still the same: Johan lied about having herpes, an STD he knew he had, for the purpose of unprotected sex. Even if she would have said no the end result would have still been him coming out looking like a total creep for even having that intent in the first place. If the end result is still the same regardless on whether she said yes or no then why does the fact that she said yes even matter? Just to shame the girl for making a decision she is going to regret forever? Is that the goal here, to shame her? Or was it to put the spotlight on Johan for doing wrong and being a total sleazebag in the first place?
I asked this in my previous post, but you chose just to respond to the first sentence of it and pretend the rest of the post didn’t exist.
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In my experience, telling a potential sexual partner you have an STI is not that awkward. It’s more awkward when they finally do a biopsy and you find out those bumps on your dick were just hair follicles plugged with keratin, and you never really had an STI to begin with.
Life is funny, sometimes.
So you just assumed you had an sti without getting tested? I guess props to you for assuming the worst and acting accordingly. Kind of.
I went to the doctor. They burned the bumps as they assumed they were warts. They told me I probably had HPV. The bumps went away. They told me they might come back and I may still be infectious. The bumps came back almost a year later. They did a biopsy that time, it came back negative. They did one more, same thing. Got referred to a dermatologist. Turns out I just needed to exfoliate my dick and balls.
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Sounds like Priya has her next bf picked out. A sexual assaulter with STDs, he’s also confirmed to have punched holes in walls. It’s like patch and Andy combined, plus it’s not like you can get more herpes.
Reminded me of an old Andy Roy interview when he talks about how him and his friends went around deliberately infecting girls with herpes, so technically Priya must have herpes.
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In my experience, telling a potential sexual partner you have an STI is not that awkward. It’s more awkward when they finally do a biopsy and you find out those bumps on your dick were just hair follicles plugged with keratin, and you never really had an STI to begin with.
Life is funny, sometimes.
So you just assumed you had an sti without getting tested? I guess props to you for assuming the worst and acting accordingly. Kind of.
I went to the doctor. They burned the bumps as they assumed they were warts. They told me I probably had HPV. The bumps went away. They told me they might come back and I may still be infectious. The bumps came back almost a year later. They did a biopsy that time, it came back negative. They did one more, same thing. Got referred to a dermatologist. Turns out I just needed to exfoliate my dick and balls, too.
Point of order: did you tell the doctor you had risk factors for sti’s and they didn’t order any testing?
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In my experience, telling a potential sexual partner you have an STI is not that awkward. It’s more awkward when they finally do a biopsy and you find out those bumps on your dick were just hair follicles plugged with keratin, and you never really had an STI to begin with.
Life is funny, sometimes.
So you just assumed you had an sti without getting tested? I guess props to you for assuming the worst and acting accordingly. Kind of.
I went to the doctor. They burned the bumps as they assumed they were warts. They told me I probably had HPV. The bumps went away. They told me they might come back and I may still be infectious. The bumps came back almost a year later. They did a biopsy that time, it came back negative. They did one more, same thing. Got referred to a dermatologist. Turns out I just needed to exfoliate my dick and balls, too.
Point of order: did you tell the doctor you had risk factors for sti’s and they didn’t order any testing?
I had engaged in some risky behaviour and I told the doctor. I’m not sure why the doctor didn’t do the biopsy first. Maybe he’d seen a lot of warthogs that day and mine happened to look the part?
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The hysteria about STI's is ridiculous. Herpes isn't a big deal, HIV isn't even a big deal anymore. I'd rather have HIV than diabetes. Maybe it's a big deal cost wise in the States but in any other first world country it's easily managed with one pill. How many of you people are out of shape, drink, smoke, eat flesh, and are worried about some cold sores? Even the word "clean" shouldn't be used when asking if someone has an infection.
I don't care if the woman asked him 1000 times, she ended up taking him at his word, a person she didn't really know. That's stupidity.
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Sounds like Priya has her next bf picked out. A sexual assaulter with STDs, he’s also confirmed to have punched holes in walls. It’s like patch and Andy combined, plus it’s not like you can get more herpes.
I just pray Brian Statch doesn't pass it on to some poor 13 year old vert prodigy. Seriously.
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The hysteria about STI's is ridiculous. Herpes isn't a big deal, HIV isn't even a big deal anymore. I'd rather have HIV than diabetes. Maybe it's a big deal cost wise in the States but in any other first world country it's easily managed with one pill. How many of you people are out of shape, drink, smoke, eat flesh, and are worried about some cold sores? Even the word "clean" shouldn't be used when asking if someone has an infection.
I don't care if the woman asked him 1000 times, she ended up taking him at his word, a person she didn't really know. That's stupidity.
this. when I was training to work in a medical lab, one of the first thing we learned when handling blood and bodily fluids was to operate under the assumption that every sample was infected, and to protect yourself accordingly. the same things applies to sexual interaction. most people who pass STIs are asymptomatic and probably don't know they even have anything. I'm not in any way defending lying to your partner, and Johan has clearly displayed a pattern of abuse, but in general, as an adult you are responsible for protecting your own health.
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But the woman in question also needs to be mentioned because she decided to have unsafe sex with another adult.
Because regardless on whether she said yes or no to the sex the end result is still the same: Johan lied about having herpes, an STD he knew he had, for the purpose of unprotected sex. Even if she would have said no the end result would have still been him coming out looking like a total creep for even having that intent in the first place. If the end result is still the same regardless on whether she said yes or no then why does the fact that she said yes even matter? Just to shame the girl for making a decision she is going to regret forever? Is that the goal here, to shame her? Or was it to put the spotlight on Johan for doing wrong and being a total sleazebag in the first place?
I asked this in my previous post, but you chose just to respond to the first sentence of it and pretend the rest of the post didn’t exist.
I agree bringing up the responsibility of the girl is not relevant, and even a little suspect in that it seems to want to take attention away from the culprit, or suggest both have equal blame. Obviously the end result would be very different had she said no. It's just not that pertinent in this conversation. For what it's worth, I got it despite rubbers.
I was told HPV tests for men don't exist. Is this not true? My former GP told me they cannot be sure I have it and I broke down on the spot as I instantly realized my sex life as I knew it was over. Casual encounters are all but completely ruled out, and even in a more vetted setting or even with a steady girlfriend, everything has to always be wrapped. The doctor actually smirked about this, saying I shouldn't think about it like that. After all, I may not have it, or my body might get rid of it eventually, and even if it doesn't, the science is muddy on whether I could infect others in asymptomatic moments. The link with cervical cancer in women, furthermore, is far from understood completely. Hence I had no obligation to tell sexual partners about this, she said. Millions have it, and many, if not most, still have unprotected sex sometimes. She was visibly surprised that I took the whole thing so seriously. I got pretty mad at her, perhaps unfairly. I changed GPs but my new one agrees with her. I wrote about this in another thread before, and there too, I got similar responses (it's not aids; you don't have to disclose, etc.) but I suspected they were just trying to be nice, like my doctor.
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a lot of STI tests are not very accurate (hpv and hsv especially) and I feel that drs will often diagnose just to be on the safe side.
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The hysteria about STI's is ridiculous. Herpes isn't a big deal, HIV isn't even a big deal anymore. I'd rather have HIV than diabetes. Maybe it's a big deal cost wise in the States but in any other first world country it's easily managed with one pill. How many of you people are out of shape, drink, smoke, eat flesh, and are worried about some cold sores? Even the word "clean" shouldn't be used when asking if someone has an infection.
I don't care if the woman asked him 1000 times, she ended up taking him at his word, a person she didn't really know. That's stupidity.
I'm a type 1 diabetic, it's not so bad. Type 2 can be managed with a single pill too and can even be reversed with lifestyle modifications.
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But the woman in question also needs to be mentioned because she decided to have unsafe sex with another adult.
Because regardless on whether she said yes or no to the sex the end result is still the same: Johan lied about having herpes, an STD he knew he had, for the purpose of unprotected sex. Even if she would have said no the end result would have still been him coming out looking like a total creep for even having that intent in the first place. If the end result is still the same regardless on whether she said yes or no then why does the fact that she said yes even matter? Just to shame the girl for making a decision she is going to regret forever? Is that the goal here, to shame her? Or was it to put the spotlight on Johan for doing wrong and being a total sleazebag in the first place?
I asked this in my previous post, but you chose just to respond to the first sentence of it and pretend the rest of the post didn’t exist.
I agree bringing up the responsibility of the girl is not relevant, and even a little suspect in that it seems to want to take attention away from the culprit, or suggest both have equal blame. Obviously the end result would be very different had she said no. It's just not that pertinent in this conversation. For what it's worth, I got it despite rubbers.
I was told HPV tests for men don't exist. Is this not true? My former GP told me they cannot be sure I have it and I broke down on the spot as I instantly realized my sex life as I knew it was over. Casual encounters are all but completely ruled out, and even in a more vetted setting or even with a steady girlfriend, everything has to always be wrapped. The doctor actually smirked about this, saying I shouldn't think about it like that. After all, I may not have it, or my body might get rid of it eventually, and even if it doesn't, the science is muddy on whether I could infect others in asymptomatic moments. The link with cervical cancer in women, furthermore, is far from understood completely. Hence I had no obligation to tell sexual partners about this, she said. Millions have it, and many, if not most, still have unprotected sex sometimes. She was visibly surprised that I took the whole thing so seriously. I got pretty mad at her, perhaps unfairly. I changed GPs but my new one agrees with her. I wrote about this in another thread before, and there too, I got similar responses (it's not aids; you don't have to disclose, etc.) but I suspected they were just trying to be nice, like my doctor.
Are you out of your mind? Of course it's relevant. It's idiotic to trust a stranger with your health. If someone shares a needle because the first person says they're free of any infections would you think it's reasonable to share the needle? No, anyone would say no.
Do you think this is the first time she had unprotected sex with someone she doesn't really know? Doubt it. If someone is willing to play that game sometimes they lose. It's not RESPONSIBLE. Of course the guy is more blameworthy but to say anything on her part is irrelevant is silly.
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But the woman in question also needs to be mentioned because she decided to have unsafe sex with another adult.
Because regardless on whether she said yes or no to the sex the end result is still the same: Johan lied about having herpes, an STD he knew he had, for the purpose of unprotected sex. Even if she would have said no the end result would have still been him coming out looking like a total creep for even having that intent in the first place. If the end result is still the same regardless on whether she said yes or no then why does the fact that she said yes even matter? Just to shame the girl for making a decision she is going to regret forever? Is that the goal here, to shame her? Or was it to put the spotlight on Johan for doing wrong and being a total sleazebag in the first place?
I asked this in my previous post, but you chose just to respond to the first sentence of it and pretend the rest of the post didn’t exist.
I agree bringing up the responsibility of the girl is not relevant, and even a little suspect in that it seems to want to take attention away from the culprit, or suggest both have equal blame. Obviously the end result would be very different had she said no. It's just not that pertinent in this conversation. For what it's worth, I got it despite rubbers.
I was told HPV tests for men don't exist. Is this not true? My former GP told me they cannot be sure I have it and I broke down on the spot as I instantly realized my sex life as I knew it was over. Casual encounters are all but completely ruled out, and even in a more vetted setting or even with a steady girlfriend, everything has to always be wrapped. The doctor actually smirked about this, saying I shouldn't think about it like that. After all, I may not have it, or my body might get rid of it eventually, and even if it doesn't, the science is muddy on whether I could infect others in asymptomatic moments. The link with cervical cancer in women, furthermore, is far from understood completely. Hence I had no obligation to tell sexual partners about this, she said. Millions have it, and many, if not most, still have unprotected sex sometimes. She was visibly surprised that I took the whole thing so seriously. I got pretty mad at her, perhaps unfairly. I changed GPs but my new one agrees with her. I wrote about this in another thread before, and there too, I got similar responses (it's not aids; you don't have to disclose, etc.) but I suspected they were just trying to be nice, like my doctor.
Are you out of your mind? Of course it's relevant. It's idiotic to trust a stranger with your health.
It isn't relevant to the discussion of how big of a cunt Johan Stuckey is. Which is the topic of conversation. Of course the girl is responsible for taking the risk. Haven't read through everything but I doubt anyone disputes that?
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But the woman in question also needs to be mentioned because she decided to have unsafe sex with another adult.
Because regardless on whether she said yes or no to the sex the end result is still the same: Johan lied about having herpes, an STD he knew he had, for the purpose of unprotected sex. Even if she would have said no the end result would have still been him coming out looking like a total creep for even having that intent in the first place. If the end result is still the same regardless on whether she said yes or no then why does the fact that she said yes even matter? Just to shame the girl for making a decision she is going to regret forever? Is that the goal here, to shame her? Or was it to put the spotlight on Johan for doing wrong and being a total sleazebag in the first place?
I asked this in my previous post, but you chose just to respond to the first sentence of it and pretend the rest of the post didn’t exist.
I agree bringing up the responsibility of the girl is not relevant, and even a little suspect in that it seems to want to take attention away from the culprit, or suggest both have equal blame. Obviously the end result would be very different had she said no. It's just not that pertinent in this conversation. For what it's worth, I got it despite rubbers.
I was told HPV tests for men don't exist. Is this not true? My former GP told me they cannot be sure I have it and I broke down on the spot as I instantly realized my sex life as I knew it was over. Casual encounters are all but completely ruled out, and even in a more vetted setting or even with a steady girlfriend, everything has to always be wrapped. The doctor actually smirked about this, saying I shouldn't think about it like that. After all, I may not have it, or my body might get rid of it eventually, and even if it doesn't, the science is muddy on whether I could infect others in asymptomatic moments. The link with cervical cancer in women, furthermore, is far from understood completely. Hence I had no obligation to tell sexual partners about this, she said. Millions have it, and many, if not most, still have unprotected sex sometimes. She was visibly surprised that I took the whole thing so seriously. I got pretty mad at her, perhaps unfairly. I changed GPs but my new one agrees with her. I wrote about this in another thread before, and there too, I got similar responses (it's not aids; you don't have to disclose, etc.) but I suspected they were just trying to be nice, like my doctor.
The first gp you mentioned is an idiot or makes good money treating sti’s(no use to delve into treatment vs. cures here). She advised you to act as if you cannot transmit a disease you might have through unprotected sex. Or did i misinterpret that?
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But the woman in question also needs to be mentioned because she decided to have unsafe sex with another adult.
Because regardless on whether she said yes or no to the sex the end result is still the same: Johan lied about having herpes, an STD he knew he had, for the purpose of unprotected sex. Even if she would have said no the end result would have still been him coming out looking like a total creep for even having that intent in the first place. If the end result is still the same regardless on whether she said yes or no then why does the fact that she said yes even matter? Just to shame the girl for making a decision she is going to regret forever? Is that the goal here, to shame her? Or was it to put the spotlight on Johan for doing wrong and being a total sleazebag in the first place?
I asked this in my previous post, but you chose just to respond to the first sentence of it and pretend the rest of the post didn’t exist.
I agree bringing up the responsibility of the girl is not relevant, and even a little suspect in that it seems to want to take attention away from the culprit, or suggest both have equal blame. Obviously the end result would be very different had she said no. It's just not that pertinent in this conversation. For what it's worth, I got it despite rubbers.
I was told HPV tests for men don't exist. Is this not true? My former GP told me they cannot be sure I have it and I broke down on the spot as I instantly realized my sex life as I knew it was over. Casual encounters are all but completely ruled out, and even in a more vetted setting or even with a steady girlfriend, everything has to always be wrapped. The doctor actually smirked about this, saying I shouldn't think about it like that. After all, I may not have it, or my body might get rid of it eventually, and even if it doesn't, the science is muddy on whether I could infect others in asymptomatic moments. The link with cervical cancer in women, furthermore, is far from understood completely. Hence I had no obligation to tell sexual partners about this, she said. Millions have it, and many, if not most, still have unprotected sex sometimes. She was visibly surprised that I took the whole thing so seriously. I got pretty mad at her, perhaps unfairly. I changed GPs but my new one agrees with her. I wrote about this in another thread before, and there too, I got similar responses (it's not aids; you don't have to disclose, etc.) but I suspected they were just trying to be nice, like my doctor.
The first gp you mentioned is an idiot or makes good money treating sti’s(no use to delve into treatment vs. cures here). She advised you to act as if you cannot transmit a disease you might have through unprotected sex. Or did i misinterpret that?
Hmm no not exactly. Basically she tried to convince me the whole HPV thing is too diffuse to assess culpability, so feeling morally obligated to disclose or change behavior is an over-correction. Sounded about right to my next GP, too (who never treated me for ay STIs, by the way, though perhaps you're right and it's all a racket).
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But the woman in question also needs to be mentioned because she decided to have unsafe sex with another adult.
Because regardless on whether she said yes or no to the sex the end result is still the same: Johan lied about having herpes, an STD he knew he had, for the purpose of unprotected sex. Even if she would have said no the end result would have still been him coming out looking like a total creep for even having that intent in the first place. If the end result is still the same regardless on whether she said yes or no then why does the fact that she said yes even matter? Just to shame the girl for making a decision she is going to regret forever? Is that the goal here, to shame her? Or was it to put the spotlight on Johan for doing wrong and being a total sleazebag in the first place?
I asked this in my previous post, but you chose just to respond to the first sentence of it and pretend the rest of the post didn’t exist.
I agree bringing up the responsibility of the girl is not relevant, and even a little suspect in that it seems to want to take attention away from the culprit, or suggest both have equal blame. Obviously the end result would be very different had she said no. It's just not that pertinent in this conversation. For what it's worth, I got it despite rubbers.
I was told HPV tests for men don't exist. Is this not true? My former GP told me they cannot be sure I have it and I broke down on the spot as I instantly realized my sex life as I knew it was over. Casual encounters are all but completely ruled out, and even in a more vetted setting or even with a steady girlfriend, everything has to always be wrapped. The doctor actually smirked about this, saying I shouldn't think about it like that. After all, I may not have it, or my body might get rid of it eventually, and even if it doesn't, the science is muddy on whether I could infect others in asymptomatic moments. The link with cervical cancer in women, furthermore, is far from understood completely. Hence I had no obligation to tell sexual partners about this, she said. Millions have it, and many, if not most, still have unprotected sex sometimes. She was visibly surprised that I took the whole thing so seriously. I got pretty mad at her, perhaps unfairly. I changed GPs but my new one agrees with her. I wrote about this in another thread before, and there too, I got similar responses (it's not aids; you don't have to disclose, etc.) but I suspected they were just trying to be nice, like my doctor.
There's a vaccine now called Gardisol and my understanding is that women from a certain age back will now just be given it as a matter of course. HPV is spread pretty heavily throughout the population so your doctor's opinions are reasonable. Don't trip, if you're under 45 get the vaccine for yourself for your own piece of mind.
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But the woman in question also needs to be mentioned because she decided to have unsafe sex with another adult.
Because regardless on whether she said yes or no to the sex the end result is still the same: Johan lied about having herpes, an STD he knew he had, for the purpose of unprotected sex. Even if she would have said no the end result would have still been him coming out looking like a total creep for even having that intent in the first place. If the end result is still the same regardless on whether she said yes or no then why does the fact that she said yes even matter? Just to shame the girl for making a decision she is going to regret forever? Is that the goal here, to shame her? Or was it to put the spotlight on Johan for doing wrong and being a total sleazebag in the first place?
I asked this in my previous post, but you chose just to respond to the first sentence of it and pretend the rest of the post didn’t exist.
I agree bringing up the responsibility of the girl is not relevant, and even a little suspect in that it seems to want to take attention away from the culprit, or suggest both have equal blame. Obviously the end result would be very different had she said no. It's just not that pertinent in this conversation. For what it's worth, I got it despite rubbers.
I was told HPV tests for men don't exist. Is this not true? My former GP told me they cannot be sure I have it and I broke down on the spot as I instantly realized my sex life as I knew it was over. Casual encounters are all but completely ruled out, and even in a more vetted setting or even with a steady girlfriend, everything has to always be wrapped. The doctor actually smirked about this, saying I shouldn't think about it like that. After all, I may not have it, or my body might get rid of it eventually, and even if it doesn't, the science is muddy on whether I could infect others in asymptomatic moments. The link with cervical cancer in women, furthermore, is far from understood completely. Hence I had no obligation to tell sexual partners about this, she said. Millions have it, and many, if not most, still have unprotected sex sometimes. She was visibly surprised that I took the whole thing so seriously. I got pretty mad at her, perhaps unfairly. I changed GPs but my new one agrees with her. I wrote about this in another thread before, and there too, I got similar responses (it's not aids; you don't have to disclose, etc.) but I suspected they were just trying to be nice, like my doctor.
The first gp you mentioned is an idiot or makes good money treating sti’s(no use to delve into treatment vs. cures here). She advised you to act as if you cannot transmit a disease you might have through unprotected sex. Or did i misinterpret that?
Hmm no not exactly. Basically she tried to convince me the whole HPV thing is too diffuse to assess culpability, so feeling morally obligated to disclose or change behavior is an over-correction. Sounded about right to my next GP, too (who never treated me for ay STIs, by the way, though perhaps you're right and it's all a racket).
I’m not an expert on the Hippocratic oath, and it’s probably not even called that anymore, but isn’t that directly contradictory to “ I will prevent disease whenever I can, for prevention is preferable to cure.”
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I do find it weird that ppl are like, "That's not what we're talking about here. This is what we're talking about." Who decides that? It's a general thread about a news story, why not talk about all facets of it?🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
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But the woman in question also needs to be mentioned because she decided to have unsafe sex with another adult.
Because regardless on whether she said yes or no to the sex the end result is still the same: Johan lied about having herpes, an STD he knew he had, for the purpose of unprotected sex. Even if she would have said no the end result would have still been him coming out looking like a total creep for even having that intent in the first place. If the end result is still the same regardless on whether she said yes or no then why does the fact that she said yes even matter? Just to shame the girl for making a decision she is going to regret forever? Is that the goal here, to shame her? Or was it to put the spotlight on Johan for doing wrong and being a total sleazebag in the first place?
I asked this in my previous post, but you chose just to respond to the first sentence of it and pretend the rest of the post didn’t exist.
I agree bringing up the responsibility of the girl is not relevant, and even a little suspect in that it seems to want to take attention away from the culprit, or suggest both have equal blame. Obviously the end result would be very different had she said no. It's just not that pertinent in this conversation. For what it's worth, I got it despite rubbers.
I was told HPV tests for men don't exist. Is this not true? My former GP told me they cannot be sure I have it and I broke down on the spot as I instantly realized my sex life as I knew it was over. Casual encounters are all but completely ruled out, and even in a more vetted setting or even with a steady girlfriend, everything has to always be wrapped. The doctor actually smirked about this, saying I shouldn't think about it like that. After all, I may not have it, or my body might get rid of it eventually, and even if it doesn't, the science is muddy on whether I could infect others in asymptomatic moments. The link with cervical cancer in women, furthermore, is far from understood completely. Hence I had no obligation to tell sexual partners about this, she said. Millions have it, and many, if not most, still have unprotected sex sometimes. She was visibly surprised that I took the whole thing so seriously. I got pretty mad at her, perhaps unfairly. I changed GPs but my new one agrees with her. I wrote about this in another thread before, and there too, I got similar responses (it's not aids; you don't have to disclose, etc.) but I suspected they were just trying to be nice, like my doctor.
Are you out of your mind? Of course it's relevant. It's idiotic to trust a stranger with your health. If someone shares a needle because the first person says they're free of any infections would you think it's reasonable to share the needle? No, anyone would say no.
Do you think this is the first time she had unprotected sex with someone she doesn't really know? Doubt it. If someone is willing to play that game sometimes they lose. It's not RESPONSIBLE. Of course the guy is more blameworthy but to say anything on her part is irrelevant is silly.
Save us Dr.fauci
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The hysteria about STI's is ridiculous. Herpes isn't a big deal, HIV isn't even a big deal anymore. I'd rather have HIV than diabetes. Maybe it's a big deal cost wise in the States but in any other first world country it's easily managed with one pill. How many of you people are out of shape, drink, smoke, eat flesh, and are worried about some cold sores? Even the word "clean" shouldn't be used when asking if someone has an infection.
I don't care if the woman asked him 1000 times, she ended up taking him at his word, a person she didn't really know. That's stupidity.
Nah herpes and HIV are a big deal. That's such a stupid thing to say.
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He'd rather have AIDS than diabetes, that's funny
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This is emily’s current partner.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CCL70SlHEaC/?igshid=1rs4u6zdtq19u (https://www.instagram.com/p/CCL70SlHEaC/?igshid=1rs4u6zdtq19u)
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I do find it weird that ppl are like, "That's not what we're talking about here. This is what we're talking about." Who decides that? It's a general thread about a news story, why not talk about all facets of it?🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
Some facets are more meaningful than others, and when you're faced with someone relentlessly obsessing over a less meaningful facet (like the decision to have unprotected sex) and ignoring a much more meaningful one (like the decision to lie about an STI in order to persuade a partner to have unprotected sex and then knowingly transmitting to them an STI) you're going to want to point out that perhaps we're not talking about the right thing.
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But the woman in question also needs to be mentioned because she decided to have unsafe sex with another adult.
Because regardless on whether she said yes or no to the sex the end result is still the same: Johan lied about having herpes, an STD he knew he had, for the purpose of unprotected sex. Even if she would have said no the end result would have still been him coming out looking like a total creep for even having that intent in the first place. If the end result is still the same regardless on whether she said yes or no then why does the fact that she said yes even matter? Just to shame the girl for making a decision she is going to regret forever? Is that the goal here, to shame her? Or was it to put the spotlight on Johan for doing wrong and being a total sleazebag in the first place?
I asked this in my previous post, but you chose just to respond to the first sentence of it and pretend the rest of the post didn’t exist.
I agree bringing up the responsibility of the girl is not relevant, and even a little suspect in that it seems to want to take attention away from the culprit, or suggest both have equal blame. Obviously the end result would be very different had she said no. It's just not that pertinent in this conversation. For what it's worth, I got it despite rubbers.
I was told HPV tests for men don't exist. Is this not true? My former GP told me they cannot be sure I have it and I broke down on the spot as I instantly realized my sex life as I knew it was over. Casual encounters are all but completely ruled out, and even in a more vetted setting or even with a steady girlfriend, everything has to always be wrapped. The doctor actually smirked about this, saying I shouldn't think about it like that. After all, I may not have it, or my body might get rid of it eventually, and even if it doesn't, the science is muddy on whether I could infect others in asymptomatic moments. The link with cervical cancer in women, furthermore, is far from understood completely. Hence I had no obligation to tell sexual partners about this, she said. Millions have it, and many, if not most, still have unprotected sex sometimes. She was visibly surprised that I took the whole thing so seriously. I got pretty mad at her, perhaps unfairly. I changed GPs but my new one agrees with her. I wrote about this in another thread before, and there too, I got similar responses (it's not aids; you don't have to disclose, etc.) but I suspected they were just trying to be nice, like my doctor.
Stings a bit but does the trick [EDIT: Read that poorly, sorry. I didn't get a vaccine, I got some ointment which had a similar name]. I figured you're past the point of a vaccine once contract it? Don't want to hijack this thread with my anecdote but it's honestly been pretty detrimental. As in, any intimacy inevitably reminds me I might effectively be spreading cancer. That does seem unreasonable perhaps, but at the same time I'm unable to rationalize my way out of those thoughts.
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I do find it weird that ppl are like, "That's not what we're talking about here. This is what we're talking about." Who decides that? It's a general thread about a news story, why not talk about all facets of it?🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
Some facets are more meaningful than others, and when you're faced with someone relentlessly obsessing over a less meaningful facet (like the decision to have unprotected sex) and ignoring a much more meaningful one (like the decision to lie about an STI in order to persuade a partner to have unprotected sex and then knowingly transmitting to them an STI) you're going to want to point out that perhaps we're not talking about the right thing.
I can respect that.
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This is emily’s current partner.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CCL70SlHEaC/?igshid=1rs4u6zdtq19u (https://www.instagram.com/p/CCL70SlHEaC/?igshid=1rs4u6zdtq19u)
Your telling me 8 girls fucked johan stuckey?
This dude? GTFO!
(https://skateparkoftampa.com/spot/headshots/63mug.jpg)
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The hysteria about STI's is ridiculous. Herpes isn't a big deal, HIV isn't even a big deal anymore. I'd rather have HIV than diabetes. Maybe it's a big deal cost wise in the States but in any other first world country it's easily managed with one pill. How many of you people are out of shape, drink, smoke, eat flesh, and are worried about some cold sores? Even the word "clean" shouldn't be used when asking if someone has an infection.
I don't care if the woman asked him 1000 times, she ended up taking him at his word, a person she didn't really know. That's stupidity.
Nah herpes and HIV are a big deal. That's such a stupid thing to say.
It's not 1985 anymore...
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This is emily’s current partner.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CCL70SlHEaC/?igshid=1rs4u6zdtq19u (https://www.instagram.com/p/CCL70SlHEaC/?igshid=1rs4u6zdtq19u)
So they’re now saying it’s full blown rape?
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It's an honorable character trait that a person who has herpes (or any communicable disease) would be trepidatious about engaging in activity that may spread it because it shows that said person has a conscience, as opposed to someone who is deceitful and careless about the welfare of others. Shame and stigma shouldn't paralyze anyone...but I think a modicum of concern for others demonstrates one's good nature.
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This is emily’s current partner.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CCL70SlHEaC/?igshid=1rs4u6zdtq19u (https://www.instagram.com/p/CCL70SlHEaC/?igshid=1rs4u6zdtq19u)
By using the word rape they're trying to make what occurred seem more severe than what actually happened while also absolving her of any responsibility. Of course who can take responsibility if they got herpes while being raped?
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It's an honorable character trait that a person who has herpes (or any communicable disease) would be trepidatious about engaging in activity that may spread it because it shows that said person has a conscience, as opposed to someone who is deceitful and careless about the welfare of others. Shame and stigma shouldn't paralyze anyone...but I think a modicum of concern for others demonstrates one's good nature.
Well not everyone is honorable, that's why you have to look out for yourself. Both parties are to blame here. If you're mature enough to have sex with random people unprotected you should be mature enough not to take them at their word.
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No, not everyone is honorable and truthful, and it is naive to assume they are...but bravo to those who are honest with themselves and others and shame on those who are not.
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He'd rather have AIDS than diabetes, that's funny
Dr. Fauci is known for giving bad medical advice such as saying wearing a mask won’t protect you against Covid19. I wouldn’t trust him on this topic either.
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Well not everyone is honorable, that's why you have to look out for yourself. Both parties are to blame here. If you're mature enough to have sex with random people unprotected you should be mature enough not to take them at their word.
crazy to see people struggling to die on this hill making some false equivalency
there is no sharing of blame, he engaged in malicious behavior willfully
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I feel so fucking stupid. Why Batman Forever? I think I get the forever part, but why Batman?
I’m dumb.
I don't understand it either but prisoners, ya know?
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The hysteria about STI's is ridiculous. Herpes isn't a big deal, HIV isn't even a big deal anymore. I'd rather have HIV than diabetes. Maybe it's a big deal cost wise in the States but in any other first world country it's easily managed with one pill. How many of you people are out of shape, drink, smoke, eat flesh, and are worried about some cold sores? Even the word "clean" shouldn't be used when asking if someone has an infection.
I don't care if the woman asked him 1000 times, she ended up taking him at his word, a person she didn't really know. That's stupidity.
this. when I was training to work in a medical lab, one of the first thing we learned when handling blood and bodily fluids was to operate under the assumption that every sample was infected, and to protect yourself accordingly. the same things applies to sexual interaction. most people who pass STIs are asymptomatic and probably don't know they even have anything. I'm not in any way defending lying to your partner, and Johan has clearly displayed a pattern of abuse, but in general, as an adult you are responsible for protecting your own health.
Oh yeah because everyone goes to school for casual sex, definitely the same thing as being a trained medical professional. Did you go to law school too? Just hoping you had some insight as to the legal ramifications on knowingly passing on an STI and lying about it consider that's the fucking issue here
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Anoyone defending Johan Stuckey or WKND skateboards is fucking Delusional . From an outsiders perspective sure these dudes seem to have a funny and fun aesthetic but the reality is that they are all incredibly egotistical douche bags. Every last one of them. They all live in my neighborhood and I’ve had several encounters with them at bars. These dudes are the fucking worst.
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But the woman in question also needs to be mentioned because she decided to have unsafe sex with another adult.
Because regardless on whether she said yes or no to the sex the end result is still the same: Johan lied about having herpes, an STD he knew he had, for the purpose of unprotected sex. Even if she would have said no the end result would have still been him coming out looking like a total creep for even having that intent in the first place. If the end result is still the same regardless on whether she said yes or no then why does the fact that she said yes even matter? Just to shame the girl for making a decision she is going to regret forever? Is that the goal here, to shame her? Or was it to put the spotlight on Johan for doing wrong and being a total sleazebag in the first place?
I asked this in my previous post, but you chose just to respond to the first sentence of it and pretend the rest of the post didn’t exist.
I agree bringing up the responsibility of the girl is not relevant, and even a little suspect in that it seems to want to take attention away from the culprit, or suggest both have equal blame. Obviously the end result would be very different had she said no. It's just not that pertinent in this conversation. For what it's worth, I got it despite rubbers.
I was told HPV tests for men don't exist. Is this not true? My former GP told me they cannot be sure I have it and I broke down on the spot as I instantly realized my sex life as I knew it was over. Casual encounters are all but completely ruled out, and even in a more vetted setting or even with a steady girlfriend, everything has to always be wrapped. The doctor actually smirked about this, saying I shouldn't think about it like that. After all, I may not have it, or my body might get rid of it eventually, and even if it doesn't, the science is muddy on whether I could infect others in asymptomatic moments. The link with cervical cancer in women, furthermore, is far from understood completely. Hence I had no obligation to tell sexual partners about this, she said. Millions have it, and many, if not most, still have unprotected sex sometimes. She was visibly surprised that I took the whole thing so seriously. I got pretty mad at her, perhaps unfairly. I changed GPs but my new one agrees with her. I wrote about this in another thread before, and there too, I got similar responses (it's not aids; you don't have to disclose, etc.) but I suspected they were just trying to be nice, like my doctor.
Are you out of your mind? Of course it's relevant. It's idiotic to trust a stranger with your health. If someone shares a needle because the first person says they're free of any infections would you think it's reasonable to share the needle? No, anyone would say no.
Do you think this is the first time she had unprotected sex with someone she doesn't really know? Doubt it. If someone is willing to play that game sometimes they lose. It's not RESPONSIBLE. Of course the guy is more blameworthy but to say anything on her part is irrelevant is silly.
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The hysteria about STI's is ridiculous. Herpes isn't a big deal, HIV isn't even a big deal anymore. I'd rather have HIV than diabetes. Maybe it's a big deal cost wise in the States but in any other first world country it's easily managed with one pill. How many of you people are out of shape, drink, smoke, eat flesh, and are worried about some cold sores? Even the word "clean" shouldn't be used when asking if someone has an infection.
I don't care if the woman asked him 1000 times, she ended up taking him at his word, a person she didn't really know. That's stupidity.
this. when I was training to work in a medical lab, one of the first thing we learned when handling blood and bodily fluids was to operate under the assumption that every sample was infected, and to protect yourself accordingly. the same things applies to sexual interaction. most people who pass STIs are asymptomatic and probably don't know they even have anything. I'm not in any way defending lying to your partner, and Johan has clearly displayed a pattern of abuse, but in general, as an adult you are responsible for protecting your own health.
Oh yeah because everyone goes to school for casual sex, definitely the same thing as being a trained medical professional. Did you go to law school too? Just hoping you had some insight as to the legal ramifications on knowingly passing on an STI and lying about it consider that's the fucking issue here
Her behaviour was stupid. Legal ramifications for passing on STIs are ridiculous, stigmatizing and archaic. No one holds those laws up as good policy.
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8 girls in total? Wow. It's amazing what being good at skateboarding and having a following will you allow you to do.
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The hysteria about STI's is ridiculous. Herpes isn't a big deal, HIV isn't even a big deal anymore. I'd rather have HIV than diabetes. Maybe it's a big deal cost wise in the States but in any other first world country it's easily managed with one pill. How many of you people are out of shape, drink, smoke, eat flesh, and are worried about some cold sores? Even the word "clean" shouldn't be used when asking if someone has an infection.
I don't care if the woman asked him 1000 times, she ended up taking him at his word, a person she didn't really know. That's stupidity.
this. when I was training to work in a medical lab, one of the first thing we learned when handling blood and bodily fluids was to operate under the assumption that every sample was infected, and to protect yourself accordingly. the same things applies to sexual interaction. most people who pass STIs are asymptomatic and probably don't know they even have anything. I'm not in any way defending lying to your partner, and Johan has clearly displayed a pattern of abuse, but in general, as an adult you are responsible for protecting your own health.
Oh yeah because everyone goes to school for casual sex, definitely the same thing as being a trained medical professional. Did you go to law school too? Just hoping you had some insight as to the legal ramifications on knowingly passing on an STI and lying about it consider that's the fucking issue here
Her behaviour was stupid. Legal ramifications for passing on STIs are ridiculous, stigmatizing and archaic. No one holds those laws up as good policy.
Man,you're the smartest Dr.
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Anoyone defending Johan Stuckey or WKND skateboards is fucking Delusional . From an outsiders perspective sure these dudes seem to have a funny and fun aesthetic but the reality is that they are all incredibly egotistical douche bags. Every last one of them. They all live in my neighborhood and I’ve had several encounters with them at bars. These dudes are the fucking worst.
Same. Douches. All of em.
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Anoyone defending Johan Stuckey or WKND skateboards is fucking Delusional . From an outsiders perspective sure these dudes seem to have a funny and fun aesthetic but the reality is that they are all incredibly egotistical douche bags. Every last one of them. They all live in my neighborhood and I’ve had several encounters with them at bars. These dudes are the fucking worst.
Let's hear it.
Anyone remember during his Free Lunch he wolf whistles at a woman walking by? Of course the video has been taken down...
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The term "rape" can be deployed in this situation because Emily did not consent to having unprotected sex with someone who had an std. She asked him if he was clean, he lied and said no. She consented to having sex with someone who was clean, or at least believed themselves to be clean. Yes, this was naive, but it doesn't change the fact that she had sex under a non-consensual precedent. If Johan did not know he had a disease, it would not be rape. But the fact that he DID know means he knowingly garnered consent under false pretense, rendering the act non-consensual. Emily was naive, Johan was straight up evil.
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Honest question:
Would it be rape if the genders were reversed?
If not, due to what factors?
Again, this is an honest question...
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The term "rape" can be deployed in this situation because Emily did not consent to having unprotected sex with someone who had an std. She asked him if he was clean, he lied and said no. She consented to having sex with someone who was clean, or at least believed themselves to be clean. Yes, this was naive, but it doesn't change the fact that she had sex under a non-consensual precedent. If Johan did not know he had a disease, it would not be rape. But the fact that he DID know means he knowingly garnered consent under false pretense, rendering the act non-consensual. Emily was naive, Johan was straight up evil.
I don't think you cant just change definitions to fit your opinion though. fuck Johan indeed but I would say this isn't rape. probably qualifies as some type of misconduct.
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The term "rape" can be deployed in this situation because Emily did not consent to having unprotected sex with someone who had an std. She asked him if he was clean, he lied and said no. She consented to having sex with someone who was clean, or at least believed themselves to be clean. Yes, this was naive, but it doesn't change the fact that she had sex under a non-consensual precedent. If Johan did not know he had a disease, it would not be rape. But the fact that he DID know means he knowingly garnered consent under false pretense, rendering the act non-consensual. Emily was naive, Johan was straight up evil.
So don’t get tested, then it’s not a crime.
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The hysteria about STI's is ridiculous. Herpes isn't a big deal, HIV isn't even a big deal anymore. I'd rather have HIV than diabetes. Maybe it's a big deal cost wise in the States but in any other first world country it's easily managed with one pill. How many of you people are out of shape, drink, smoke, eat flesh, and are worried about some cold sores? Even the word "clean" shouldn't be used when asking if someone has an infection.
I don't care if the woman asked him 1000 times, she ended up taking him at his word, a person she didn't really know. That's stupidity.
this. when I was training to work in a medical lab, one of the first thing we learned when handling blood and bodily fluids was to operate under the assumption that every sample was infected, and to protect yourself accordingly. the same things applies to sexual interaction. most people who pass STIs are asymptomatic and probably don't know they even have anything. I'm not in any way defending lying to your partner, and Johan has clearly displayed a pattern of abuse, but in general, as an adult you are responsible for protecting your own health.
Oh yeah because everyone goes to school for casual sex, definitely the same thing as being a trained medical professional. Did you go to law school too? Just hoping you had some insight as to the legal ramifications on knowingly passing on an STI and lying about it consider that's the fucking issue here
i would say that it would be next to impossible to prove in a court of law that she didn't have it before her interaction with Johan, despite his admission. Less of a burden of proof in a civil case I'd guess, but not sure what kind of compensation Johan would be able to provide.
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Honest question:
Would it be rape if the genders were reversed?
If not, due to what factors?
Again, this is an honest question...
I've had several interactions with women where they either took the condom off without my consent or just straight up inserted me inside of them without a condom without my consent, and if it came down to it, would characterize that as a form of sexual assault, but I'm not sure how many women would see it that way.
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Honest question:
Would it be rape if the genders were reversed?
If not, due to what factors?
Again, this is an honest question...
I've had several interactions with women where they either took the condom off without my consent or just straight up inserted me inside of them without a condom without my consent, and if it came down to it, would characterize that as a form of sexual assault, but I'm not sure how many women would see it that way.
Let's take the question to the worst case scenario....if it were AIDS the answer is pretty simple. Passing a permanantly deforming disease to someone is maybe not lethal....but just as much illegal.
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The hysteria about STI's is ridiculous. Herpes isn't a big deal, HIV isn't even a big deal anymore. I'd rather have HIV than diabetes. Maybe it's a big deal cost wise in the States but in any other first world country it's easily managed with one pill. How many of you people are out of shape, drink, smoke, eat flesh, and are worried about some cold sores? Even the word "clean" shouldn't be used when asking if someone has an infection.
I don't care if the woman asked him 1000 times, she ended up taking him at his word, a person she didn't really know. That's stupidity.
this. when I was training to work in a medical lab, one of the first thing we learned when handling blood and bodily fluids was to operate under the assumption that every sample was infected, and to protect yourself accordingly. the same things applies to sexual interaction. most people who pass STIs are asymptomatic and probably don't know they even have anything. I'm not in any way defending lying to your partner, and Johan has clearly displayed a pattern of abuse, but in general, as an adult you are responsible for protecting your own health.
Oh yeah because everyone goes to school for casual sex, definitely the same thing as being a trained medical professional. Did you go to law school too? Just hoping you had some insight as to the legal ramifications on knowingly passing on an STI and lying about it consider that's the fucking issue here
i would say that it would be next to impossible to prove in a court of law that she didn't have it before her interaction with Johan, despite his admission. Less of a burden of proof in a civil case I'd guess, but not sure what kind of compensation Johan would be able to provide.
By her own admission she engages in risky behavior by having unprotected sex with strangers. Might be hard to prove anything
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Lol all of a sudden SLAP is a bunch of doctors and lawyers.
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The term "rape" can be deployed in this situation because Emily did not consent to having unprotected sex with someone who had an std. She asked him if he was clean, he lied and said no. She consented to having sex with someone who was clean, or at least believed themselves to be clean. Yes, this was naive, but it doesn't change the fact that she had sex under a non-consensual precedent. If Johan did not know he had a disease, it would not be rape. But the fact that he DID know means he knowingly garnered consent under false pretense, rendering the act non-consensual. Emily was naive, Johan was straight up evil.
Is this true? What if he was lying about his name? If she consented to have sex with a man named David but it turned out his name was really Johan would that be rape too?
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Lol all of a sudden SLAP is a bunch of doctors and lawyers.
Doctors and juries. Not all of the sudden, either.
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Anoyone defending Johan Stuckey or WKND skateboards is fucking Delusional . From an outsiders perspective sure these dudes seem to have a funny and fun aesthetic but the reality is that they are all incredibly egotistical douche bags. Every last one of them. They all live in my neighborhood and I’ve had several encounters with them at bars. These dudes are the fucking worst.
Let's hear it.
Anyone remember during his Free Lunch he wolf whistles at a woman walking by? Of course the video has been taken down...
But not Christian Maalouf right??? Right???? Every one???
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The term "rape" can be deployed in this situation because Emily did not consent to having unprotected sex with someone who had an std. She asked him if he was clean, he lied and said no. She consented to having sex with someone who was clean, or at least believed themselves to be clean. Yes, this was naive, but it doesn't change the fact that she had sex under a non-consensual precedent. If Johan did not know he had a disease, it would not be rape. But the fact that he DID know means he knowingly garnered consent under false pretense, rendering the act non-consensual. Emily was naive, Johan was straight up evil.
Is this true? What if he was lying about his name? If she consented to have sex with a man named David but it turned out his name was really Johan would that be rape too?
Don't be silly, dude. Have something impactful to add to the convo or just don't type.
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Honest question:
Would it be rape if the genders were reversed?
If not, due to what factors?
Again, this is an honest question...
I've had several interactions with women where they either took the condom off without my consent or just straight up inserted me inside of them without a condom without my consent, and if it came down to it, would characterize that as a form of sexual assault, but I'm not sure how many women would see it that way.
Let's take the question to the worst case scenario....if it were AIDS the answer is pretty simple. Passing a permanantly deforming disease to someone is maybe not lethal....but just as much illegal.
LOL you don't pass AIDS to anyone, and barely anyone dies of AIDS anymore, in the west at least.
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Ever go to a bar and can immediately point out the worst people in the room?
Thats the entire WKND team.
They vibe out LA locals at bars, skate spots, and skateparks when none of these guys are actually even from the city.
They perpetuate this false LA hipster transplant elitist facade. They are also hated by most of the LA skate community.
It's much easier to have a positive opinion on their antics when you've never interacted with them in person.
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Anoyone defending Johan Stuckey or WKND skateboards is fucking Delusional . From an outsiders perspective sure these dudes seem to have a funny and fun aesthetic but the reality is that they are all incredibly egotistical douche bags. Every last one of them. They all live in my neighborhood and I’ve had several encounters with them at bars. These dudes are the fucking worst.
Let's hear it.
Anyone remember during his Free Lunch he wolf whistles at a woman walking by? Of course the video has been taken down...
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The term "rape" can be deployed in this situation because Emily did not consent to having unprotected sex with someone who had an std. She asked him if he was clean, he lied and said no Yes. She consented to having sex with someone who was clean, or at least believed themselves to be clean. Yes, this was naive, but it doesn't change the fact that she had sex under a non-consensual precedent. If Johan did not know he had a disease, it would not be rape. But the fact that he DID know means he knowingly garnered consent under false pretense, rendering the act non-consensual. Emily was naive, Johan was straight up evil.
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Yep, also, people need to address Johan as a serial transmitter. He would lie about not having STDs to avoid rejection. I'm sure he had more than herps. He might be a total moron, but he knows that society places a stigma on those who have sexually transmitted diseases, and in the US more so. Sex is a taboo subject still, and fear of disease will never go away, therefore making those with an STD feel less desirable. He needed proper counseling and better friends. Instead, his WKND pals made light of the situation, which enables the behavior, and Johan is probably inherently an idiot, so he thought that there isn't a problem with his behavior and because his friends think it's funny, so he should just continue his antics.
Edit: He had to know the harm he was causing and probably getting off on the fact he was forcing his pain and suffering onto his victims. He's a piece of shit, and so are the WKND frat boys.
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The term "rape" can be deployed in this situation because Emily did not consent to having unprotected sex with someone who had an std. She asked him if he was clean, he lied and said no Yes. She consented to having sex with someone who was clean, or at least believed themselves to be clean. Yes, this was naive, but it doesn't change the fact that she had sex under a non-consensual precedent. If Johan did not know he had a disease, it would not be rape. But the fact that he DID know means he knowingly garnered consent under false pretense, rendering the act non-consensual. Emily was naive, Johan was straight up evil.
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Yep, also, people need to address Johan as a serial transmitter. He would lie about not having STDs to avoid rejection. I'm sure he had more than herps. He might be total moron, but he knows that society places a stigma on those who have secually transmitted diseases, and in the US more so. Sex is a taboo subject still, and fear of disease will never go away, therefore making those with an STD feel less desirable. He needed proper counseling and better friends. Instead, his WKND pals made light of the situation, which enables the behavior, and Johan is probably inherently an idiot, so he thought that there isn't a problem with his behavior and because his friends thinks it's funny he should just continue his antics.
If being deceitful in order to get someone in bed was rape, everyone would be a rapist. What if she was lying about being on the pill? What if a man was lying about having a vasectomy? What if a man lied about being married? Would those be rape too? Is there even a case where deception has been used to prosecute rape? Seems like a radical feminist position.
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Ever go to a bar and can immediately point out the worst people in the room?
Thats the entire WKND team.
They vibe out LA locals at bars, skate spots, and skateparks when none of these guys are actually even from the city.
They perpetuate this false LA hipster transplant elitist facade. They are also hated by most of the LA skate community.
It's much easier to have a positive opinion on their antics when you've never interacted with them in person.
WKND sucks
Can you get vibed out by people you don’t give a fuck about? I can’t.
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Anoyone defending Johan Stuckey or WKND skateboards is fucking Delusional . From an outsiders perspective sure these dudes seem to have a funny and fun aesthetic but the reality is that they are all incredibly egotistical douche bags. Every last one of them. They all live in my neighborhood and I’ve had several encounters with them at bars. These dudes are the fucking worst.
Let's hear it.
Anyone remember during his Free Lunch he wolf whistles at a woman walking by? Of course the video has been taken down...
my post is buried 10+ pgs back but him and austyn gillette were also being super transphobic in one of those RIDE videos. that one seems to have been taken down as well, though i'm not sure how recently.
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The hysteria about STI's is ridiculous. Herpes isn't a big deal, HIV isn't even a big deal anymore. I'd rather have HIV than diabetes. Maybe it's a big deal cost wise in the States but in any other first world country it's easily managed with one pill. How many of you people are out of shape, drink, smoke, eat flesh, and are worried about some cold sores? Even the word "clean" shouldn't be used when asking if someone has an infection.
I don't care if the woman asked him 1000 times, she ended up taking him at his word, a person she didn't really know. That's stupidity.
this. when I was training to work in a medical lab, one of the first thing we learned when handling blood and bodily fluids was to operate under the assumption that every sample was infected, and to protect yourself accordingly. the same things applies to sexual interaction. most people who pass STIs are asymptomatic and probably don't know they even have anything. I'm not in any way defending lying to your partner, and Johan has clearly displayed a pattern of abuse, but in general, as an adult you are responsible for protecting your own health.
Oh yeah because everyone goes to school for casual sex, definitely the same thing as being a trained medical professional. Did you go to law school too? Just hoping you had some insight as to the legal ramifications on knowingly passing on an STI and lying about it consider that's the fucking issue here
i would say that it would be next to impossible to prove in a court of law that she didn't have it before her interaction with Johan, despite his admission. Less of a burden of proof in a civil case I'd guess, but not sure what kind of compensation Johan would be able to provide.
By her own admission she engages in risky behavior by having unprotected sex with strangers. Might be hard to prove anything
I didn’t see where she said that. But if she did it would be much harder for this type of thing to hold up in a court of law.
Also calling this sexual exchange rape in my own personal opinion, is going to far. Would a court call this interaction rape?
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Anoyone defending Johan Stuckey or WKND skateboards is fucking Delusional . From an outsiders perspective sure these dudes seem to have a funny and fun aesthetic but the reality is that they are all incredibly egotistical douche bags. Every last one of them. They all live in my neighborhood and I’ve had several encounters with them at bars. These dudes are the fucking worst.
Sorry you had a bad encounter with one or some of them. Chris Maalouf is extremely nice and a good person. As is Trevor Thompson
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The hysteria about STI's is ridiculous. Herpes isn't a big deal, HIV isn't even a big deal anymore. I'd rather have HIV than diabetes. Maybe it's a big deal cost wise in the States but in any other first world country it's easily managed with one pill. How many of you people are out of shape, drink, smoke, eat flesh, and are worried about some cold sores? Even the word "clean" shouldn't be used when asking if someone has an infection.
I don't care if the woman asked him 1000 times, she ended up taking him at his word, a person she didn't really know. That's stupidity.
this. when I was training to work in a medical lab, one of the first thing we learned when handling blood and bodily fluids was to operate under the assumption that every sample was infected, and to protect yourself accordingly. the same things applies to sexual interaction. most people who pass STIs are asymptomatic and probably don't know they even have anything. I'm not in any way defending lying to your partner, and Johan has clearly displayed a pattern of abuse, but in general, as an adult you are responsible for protecting your own health.
Oh yeah because everyone goes to school for casual sex, definitely the same thing as being a trained medical professional. Did you go to law school too? Just hoping you had some insight as to the legal ramifications on knowingly passing on an STI and lying about it consider that's the fucking issue here
i would say that it would be next to impossible to prove in a court of law that she didn't have it before her interaction with Johan, despite his admission. Less of a burden of proof in a civil case I'd guess, but not sure what kind of compensation Johan would be able to provide.
By her own admission she engages in risky behavior by having unprotected sex with strangers. Might be hard to prove anything
I didn’t see where she said that. But if she did it would be much harder for this type of thing to hold up in a court of law.
Also calling this sexual exchange rape in my own personal opinion, is going to far. Would a court call this interaction rape?
We'll have to refer to the Usher case:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/michellekaminsky/2018/06/28/usher-seeks-dismissal-of-herpes-suit-says-accuser-knew-of-unprotected-sex-risks/#56f259906a28
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Anoyone defending Johan Stuckey or WKND skateboards is fucking Delusional . From an outsiders perspective sure these dudes seem to have a funny and fun aesthetic but the reality is that they are all incredibly egotistical douche bags. Every last one of them. They all live in my neighborhood and I’ve had several encounters with them at bars. These dudes are the fucking worst.
Let's hear it.
Anyone remember during his Free Lunch he wolf whistles at a woman walking by? Of course the video has been taken down...
my post is buried 10+ pgs back but him and austyn gillette were also being super transphobic in one of those RIDE videos. that one seems to have been taken down as well, though i'm not sure how recently.
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The hysteria about STI's is ridiculous. Herpes isn't a big deal, HIV isn't even a big deal anymore. I'd rather have HIV than diabetes. Maybe it's a big deal cost wise in the States but in any other first world country it's easily managed with one pill. How many of you people are out of shape, drink, smoke, eat flesh, and are worried about some cold sores? Even the word "clean" shouldn't be used when asking if someone has an infection.
I don't care if the woman asked him 1000 times, she ended up taking him at his word, a person she didn't really know. That's stupidity.
this. when I was training to work in a medical lab, one of the first thing we learned when handling blood and bodily fluids was to operate under the assumption that every sample was infected, and to protect yourself accordingly. the same things applies to sexual interaction. most people who pass STIs are asymptomatic and probably don't know they even have anything. I'm not in any way defending lying to your partner, and Johan has clearly displayed a pattern of abuse, but in general, as an adult you are responsible for protecting your own health.
Oh yeah because everyone goes to school for casual sex, definitely the same thing as being a trained medical professional. Did you go to law school too? Just hoping you had some insight as to the legal ramifications on knowingly passing on an STI and lying about it consider that's the fucking issue here
i would say that it would be next to impossible to prove in a court of law that she didn't have it before her interaction with Johan, despite his admission. Less of a burden of proof in a civil case I'd guess, but not sure what kind of compensation Johan would be able to provide.
By her own admission she engages in risky behavior by having unprotected sex with strangers. Might be hard to prove anything
I didn’t see where she said that. But if she did it would be much harder for this type of thing to hold up in a court of law.
Also calling this sexual exchange rape in my own personal opinion, is going to far. Would a court call this interaction rape?
We'll have to refer to the Usher case:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/michellekaminsky/2018/06/28/usher-seeks-dismissal-of-herpes-suit-says-accuser-knew-of-unprotected-sex-risks/#56f259906a28
That's a civil case. Nowhere is rape mentioned.
"Indeed, California has made transmitting a communicable disease, such as herpes, a misdemeanor punishable by up to one year in jail and fines."
Quite a big difference.
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I do find it weird that ppl are like, "That's not what we're talking about here. This is what we're talking about." Who decides that? It's a general thread about a news story, why not talk about all facets of it?🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
Asking what we should be talking about and not talking about is ridiculous, this is a public forum. It seems the public of SLAP wants up explore every facet of what took place.
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interesting fact: the dudes in this thread victim-blaming and defending johan are the same ones who will act incredulous and butthurt at the idea that the skateboarding world might be seen as unwelcoming or alienating by female skaters
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The term "rape" can be deployed in this situation because Emily did not consent to having unprotected sex with someone who had an std. She asked him if he was clean, he lied and said no Yes. She consented to having sex with someone who was clean, or at least believed themselves to be clean. Yes, this was naive, but it doesn't change the fact that she had sex under a non-consensual precedent. If Johan did not know he had a disease, it would not be rape. But the fact that he DID know means he knowingly garnered consent under false pretense, rendering the act non-consensual. Emily was naive, Johan was straight up evil.
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Yep, also, people need to address Johan as a serial transmitter. He would lie about not having STDs to avoid rejection. I'm sure he had more than herps. He might be total moron, but he knows that society places a stigma on those who have secually transmitted diseases, and in the US more so. Sex is a taboo subject still, and fear of disease will never go away, therefore making those with an STD feel less desirable. He needed proper counseling and better friends. Instead, his WKND pals made light of the situation, which enables the behavior, and Johan is probably inherently an idiot, so he thought that there isn't a problem with his behavior and because his friends thinks it's funny he should just continue his antics.
If being deceitful in order to get someone in bed was rape, everyone would be a rapist. What if she was lying about being on the pill? What if a man was lying about having a vasectomy? What if a man lied about being married? Would those be rape too? Is there even a case where deception has been used to prosecute rape? Seems like a radical feminist position.
No they wouldn’t. Sounds like you never got to know anyone personally before having sex. Thought the whole rape part was him shoving his dong down her throat without her permission anyways. Blows my mind how many 5 year olds from the he-man womun haters club are on this forum.
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The term "rape" can be deployed in this situation because Emily did not consent to having unprotected sex with someone who had an std. She asked him if he was clean, he lied and said no Yes. She consented to having sex with someone who was clean, or at least believed themselves to be clean. Yes, this was naive, but it doesn't change the fact that she had sex under a non-consensual precedent. If Johan did not know he had a disease, it would not be rape. But the fact that he DID know means he knowingly garnered consent under false pretense, rendering the act non-consensual. Emily was naive, Johan was straight up evil.
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Yep, also, people need to address Johan as a serial transmitter. He would lie about not having STDs to avoid rejection. I'm sure he had more than herps. He might be total moron, but he knows that society places a stigma on those who have secually transmitted diseases, and in the US more so. Sex is a taboo subject still, and fear of disease will never go away, therefore making those with an STD feel less desirable. He needed proper counseling and better friends. Instead, his WKND pals made light of the situation, which enables the behavior, and Johan is probably inherently an idiot, so he thought that there isn't a problem with his behavior and because his friends thinks it's funny he should just continue his antics.
If being deceitful in order to get someone in bed was rape, everyone would be a rapist. What if she was lying about being on the pill? What if a man was lying about having a vasectomy? What if a man lied about being married? Would those be rape too? Is there even a case where deception has been used to prosecute rape? Seems like a radical feminist position.
No they wouldn’t. Sounds like you never got to know anyone personally before having sex. Thought the whole rape part was him shoving his dong down her throat without her permission anyways. Blows my mind how many 5 year olds from the he-man womun haters club are on this forum.
The point was a lot of people have lied in order to get people to sleep with them. Maybe not you, but don't act like no one has done this.
You're also right I haven't. What is there to know?
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I don’t know about you but I respect and support female skaters.
Also, I would never support Johan. I just wanted to bring up other information, especially because the victim in this story is claiming she was raped. Which is a very serious accusation.
Johan is completely wrong in the scenario and I hope he gets prosecuted for giving someone a incurable disease.
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I don’t know about you but I respect and support female skaters.
Also, I would never support Johan. I just wanted to bring up other information, especially because the victim in this story is claiming she was raped. Which is a very serious accusation.
Johan is completely wrong in the scenario and I hope he gets prosecuted for giving someone a incurable disease.
Me too. But protect yourselves, people.
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Alright, so i'm not privy to all the details of this situation, but I do know that there are people out there that do contract genital herpes and only have an initial outbreak (sometimes not even that) and then end up shedding the virus without knowing they have it. Meaning that they never display traditional symptoms and unknowingly pass it on to other people.
Are we sure that isn't the case here? Again, I don't know the details, but I do work in the medical industry, and I know of people that have tested positive for the virus and have never had any symptoms.
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People should worry less about what constitutes as rape, by definition of the word, and more about how men in general show a problematic history when it comes to blurring the lines (at best) and outright abusing power when it comes to sex. And not only sex with women, but especially sex with women. So much so that these types of things are only now being addressed, and that there isn't sufficiently clear language available to describe half the acts and situations women have been involved in at the hands of men that have resulted in sexual acts they may or may not have been fully down with.
Was this rape?
Is it rape to take a condom off without telling a girl during sex?
Is it rape to push a girl's head down on your dick?
Is it rape to grab and insert anything without asking?
Is it rape to pressure a girl into sex, even if she finally, audibly, "consents", mostly to shut you up, or because she's afraid of what might happen (I.E. ACTUAL by-the-book definition rape) if she doesn't?
If a girl wakes up in a room, and for reasons she can't remember she is no longer wearing her clothes, and something feels wrong, but there's no proof of anything, is that rape?
I'm not absolving women of their own responsibilities, or potential short-comings, but you can't look at stuff like this without considering the society we live in, the conditions of that society for hundreds of years. Same as you can';t when it comes to race.
We should count ourselves pretty fucking lucky that very rarely do we have to think about any of this shit ourselves. That there isn't a load of grey area when it comes to what gets done to and with our bodies without us fully agreeing to it, or understand what might be happening or why it's happening.
I don't care if she should have "known better", or she's had unprotected sex before. Maybe that's her choice, or maybe she's never felt like she truly has any choice at all before? Maybe it doesn't matter because there's a bigger picture here.
What's that Louis CK joke... (worst guy to use here, but...) "The biggest threat to men is heart disease; the biggest threat to women is men."
I don't know. I just think people need to think long and hard about some of the situations they've most likely been involved in when it comes to topics like this. Even the culture of the way women are talked about amongst men is entirely problematic. And there's no way any of us aren't guilty in some way of contributing to an environment that means some people fall foul of the very thin boundaries that exist between bad taste and bad behavior.
People like this fuck Johan, for example. And his board sponsor and their "sense of humor."
Hubba Wheels and Shorties ads on the wall of countless teenage bedrooms hasn't helped anyone, either.
And sure, that doesn't equate to being a gross fucked up piece of shit who lies to get a girl to take her clothes off. But the same cultural shift that is needed when it comes to race, as well as social and financial equality, are all at play here, too.
Do better. That's probably what it comes down to.
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What kind of an idiot doesn't wear a condom when they fuck some stranger for the first time? Shame on these fools.
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The term "rape" can be deployed in this situation because Emily did not consent to having unprotected sex with someone who had an std. She asked him if he was clean, he lied and said no Yes. She consented to having sex with someone who was clean, or at least believed themselves to be clean. Yes, this was naive, but it doesn't change the fact that she had sex under a non-consensual precedent. If Johan did not know he had a disease, it would not be rape. But the fact that he DID know means he knowingly garnered consent under false pretense, rendering the act non-consensual. Emily was naive, Johan was straight up evil.
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Yep, also, people need to address Johan as a serial transmitter. He would lie about not having STDs to avoid rejection. I'm sure he had more than herps. He might be total moron, but he knows that society places a stigma on those who have secually transmitted diseases, and in the US more so. Sex is a taboo subject still, and fear of disease will never go away, therefore making those with an STD feel less desirable. He needed proper counseling and better friends. Instead, his WKND pals made light of the situation, which enables the behavior, and Johan is probably inherently an idiot, so he thought that there isn't a problem with his behavior and because his friends thinks it's funny he should just continue his antics.
If being deceitful in order to get someone in bed was rape, everyone would be a rapist. What if she was lying about being on the pill? What if a man was lying about having a vasectomy? What if a man lied about being married? Would those be rape too? Is there even a case where deception has been used to prosecute rape? Seems like a radical feminist position.
No they wouldn’t. Sounds like you never got to know anyone personally before having sex. Thought the whole rape part was him shoving his dong down her throat without her permission anyways. Blows my mind how many 5 year olds from the he-man womun haters club are on this forum.
The point was a lot of people have lied in order to get people to sleep with them. Maybe not you, but don't act like no one has done this.
You're also right I haven't. What is there to know?
Perspective for one.
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What kind of an idiot doesn't wear a condom when they fuck some stranger for the first time? Shame on these fools.
You can get condoms at the dollar store, but apparently Johan cant afford even that.
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What kind of an idiot doesn't wear a condom when they fuck some stranger for the first time? Shame on these fools.
Real talk. Has condom technology improved over the last 20 years? I can’t remember ever having a decent session with one on. But I never slept around with people I didn’t know.
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What kind of an idiot doesn't wear a condom when they fuck some stranger for the first time? Shame on these fools.
Real talk. Has condom technology improved over the last 20 years? I can’t remember ever having a decent session with one on. But I never slept around with people I didn’t know.
Yes Japan has been killing the game.
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Anoyone defending Johan Stuckey or WKND skateboards is fucking Delusional . From an outsiders perspective sure these dudes seem to have a funny and fun aesthetic but the reality is that they are all incredibly egotistical douche bags. Every last one of them. They all live in my neighborhood and I’ve had several encounters with them at bars. These dudes are the fucking worst.
Maalouf sucks as well. Can’t speak on Trevor. Total cocks.
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This thread tells me SLAP has a bunch of incels posting here. And that Johan is a dirty dick piece of shit.
Starting with the guy with an anime Avatar
Yes, because all anime fans are weeaboo neckbeards. Damn you got me.
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What kind of an idiot doesn't wear a condom when they fuck some stranger for the first time? Shame on these fools.
Real talk. Has condom technology improved over the last 20 years? I can’t remember ever having a decent session with one on. But I never slept around with people I didn’t know.
Word around town, often they still rip.
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What kind of an idiot doesn't wear a condom when they fuck some stranger for the first time? Shame on these fools.
Real talk. Has condom technology improved over the last 20 years? I can’t remember ever having a decent session with one on. But I never slept around with people I didn’t know.
Case in point.
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Damn, thought the WKND homies were ride or die.
Disappointing they threw Johan under the bus.
Most of the other older Floridians on the west coast are garbage too.
wknd /ripndip /gxmen its all the same.
More names will come out...
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Damn, thought the WKND homies were ride or die.
Disappointing they threw Johan under the bus.
Most of the other older Floridians on the west coast are garbage too.
wknd /ripndip /gxmen its all the same.
More names will come out...
This man waited 12 years to make this his first post.
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What kind of an idiot doesn't wear a condom when they fuck some stranger for the first time? Shame on these fools.
Real talk. Has condom technology improved over the last 20 years? I can’t remember ever having a decent session with one on. But I never slept around with people I didn’t know.
Word around town, magnums what I fit.
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Anoyone defending Johan Stuckey or WKND skateboards is fucking Delusional . From an outsiders perspective sure these dudes seem to have a funny and fun aesthetic but the reality is that they are all incredibly egotistical douche bags. Every last one of them. They all live in my neighborhood and I’ve had several encounters with them at bars. These dudes are the fucking worst.
Maalouf sucks as well. Can’t speak on Trevor. Total cocks.
jordan, trevor, alexis, zac and andrew are all great people
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Anoyone defending Johan Stuckey or WKND skateboards is fucking Delusional . From an outsiders perspective sure these dudes seem to have a funny and fun aesthetic but the reality is that they are all incredibly egotistical douche bags. Every last one of them. They all live in my neighborhood and I’ve had several encounters with them at bars. These dudes are the fucking worst.
Maalouf sucks as well. Can’t speak on Trevor. Total cocks.
jordan, trevor, alexis, zac and andrew are all great people
Alexis rules. Hope she bailed.
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Anoyone defending Johan Stuckey or WKND skateboards is fucking Delusional . From an outsiders perspective sure these dudes seem to have a funny and fun aesthetic but the reality is that they are all incredibly egotistical douche bags. Every last one of them. They all live in my neighborhood and I’ve had several encounters with them at bars. These dudes are the fucking worst.
Maalouf sucks as well. Can’t speak on Trevor. Total cocks.
jordan, trevor, alexis, zac and andrew are all great people
I know ppl well who also vouch for Jordan and Alex as great ppl. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.
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Damn, thought the WKND homies were ride or die.
Disappointing they threw Johan under the bus.
Most of the other older Floridians on the west coast are garbage too.
wknd /ripndip /gxmen its all the same.
More names will come out...
This man waited 12 years to make this his first post.
What a guy, you gotta admire his resilience. He deserves a gnar and a gnar he shall receive.
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Damn, thought the WKND homies were ride or die.
Disappointing they threw Johan under the bus.
Most of the other older Floridians on the west coast are garbage too.
wknd /ripndip /gxmen its all the same.
More names will come out...
Gnarred my G.
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Damn, thought the WKND homies were ride or die.
Disappointing they threw Johan under the bus.
Most of the other older Floridians on the west coast are garbage too.
wknd /ripndip /gxmen its all the same.
More names will come out...
This man waited 12 years to make this his first post.
Amazing.
I want to ask so many questions.
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Damn, thought the WKND homies were ride or die.
Disappointing they threw Johan under the bus.
Most of the other older Floridians on the west coast are garbage too.
wknd /ripndip /gxmen its all the same.
More names will come out...
This man waited 12 years to make this his first post.
I want to ask so many questions.
Yeah like why did this topic in particular get them out from behind the keyboard into the arena of Slap.
I mean there’s been a lot of interesting things happening since 2008.
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This is emily’s current partner.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CCL70SlHEaC/?igshid=1rs4u6zdtq19u (https://www.instagram.com/p/CCL70SlHEaC/?igshid=1rs4u6zdtq19u)
Your telling me 8 girls fucked johan stuckey?
This dude? GTFO!
(https://skateparkoftampa.com/spot/headshots/63mug.jpg)
You’d think he’d be so happy for the chance he’d treat them well.
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Anoyone defending Johan Stuckey or WKND skateboards is fucking Delusional . From an outsiders perspective sure these dudes seem to have a funny and fun aesthetic but the reality is that they are all incredibly egotistical douche bags. Every last one of them. They all live in my neighborhood and I’ve had several encounters with them at bars. These dudes are the fucking worst.
Maalouf sucks as well. Can’t speak on Trevor. Total cocks.
jordan, trevor, alexis, zac and andrew are all great people
I know ppl well who also vouch for Jordan and Alex as great ppl. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.
i forgot to add taylor caruso. he’s the fucking man.
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I see WKND scrubbed evidence of ‘The Slamlot’ skit where Johan re-enacts the fake drowning scene from ‘The Sandlot’.
https://skateboarding.transworld.net/videos/slamlot/
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yeah fuck wknd too burn with him
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A lot of people are speculating whether it's 'rape', but it seems like they've missed the part where he forced her head down to give him a blowjob after they had sex. Emily posted that on her story, having accidentally cut most of it out in the hard post. I thought that was the part she's referring to as 'rape' – although it could be the whole experience.
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This is emily’s current partner.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CCL70SlHEaC/?igshid=1rs4u6zdtq19u (https://www.instagram.com/p/CCL70SlHEaC/?igshid=1rs4u6zdtq19u)
Your telling me 8 girls fucked johan stuckey?
This dude? GTFO!
(https://skateparkoftampa.com/spot/headshots/63mug.jpg)
You’d think he’d be so happy for the chance he’d treat them well.
I'd guess he was so angry about having to feel lucky that he treated them poorly.
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People from the WKND team are publicly disavowing Johan in their IG stories.
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A lot of people are speculating whether it's 'rape', but it seems like they've missed the part where he forced her head down to give him a blowjob after they had sex. Emily posted that on her story, having accidentally cut most of it out in the hard post. I thought that was the part she's referring to as 'rape' – although it could be the whole experience.
I did miss that. Thanks for bringing that up. Having all the information definitely changes my opinion.
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Caleb Mcneely calling out the Webb/nyjah situation and the Danny Way murder situation on his Instagram story. Holy shit, shots fired!!!
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Caleb Mcneely calling out the Webb/nyjah situation and the Danny Way murder situation on his Instagram story. Holy shit, shots fired!!!
I’ve always heard the rumor about Danny Way, isn’t it that he killed a gay man or was an accessory to the murder?
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I’m not being a dick here: I’m truly surprised there’s people out there that don’t know the Danny Way story. Are you pretty young? It’s been known since... well, since it happened it feels like.
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I’m not being a dick here: I’m truly surprised there’s people out there that don’t know the Danny Way story. Are you pretty young? It’s been known since... well, since it happened it feels like.
I’m in my earlier 30’s and I truly do not know this story. I’ve only heard rumors of it.
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Aren’t you shaming him for his issue if anything? You wouldn’t call out someone with aids, would you?
I love when pc culture contradicts itself
They're not shaming him for his issue, they're shaming him for knowingly giving someone an STD.
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The Danny Way thing isn't true. I don't understand why it persists because he's fully hateable without the fag-bashing murder thing,
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Wow they made it private within hours of posting this. Rest assured, the right people are reading this forum!
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The Danny Way thing isn't true. I don't understand why it persists because he's fully hateable without the fag-bashing murder thing,
Yeah, didn't someone talk about shooting at illegals at the boarder with him in an old Big Brother or something?
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Wow they made it private within hours of posting this. Rest assured, the right people are reading this forum!
What was the video?
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Aren’t there written accounts of Danny Way throwing rocks at Mexicans on the border?
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The Danny Way thing isn't true. I don't understand why it persists because he's fully hateable without the fag-bashing murder thing,
It was a Chris Pontius interview. He said a bunch of stuff about Danny and crew. Said the had guns at their skate shop.
I clipped a tread for the poster above should he want to get up to speed.
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=80765.0
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Damn, thought the WKND homies were ride or die.
Disappointing they threw Johan under the bus.
Most of the other older Floridians on the west coast are garbage too.
wknd /ripndip /gxmen its all the same.
More names will come out...
This man waited 12 years to make this his first post.
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Holy shit, you weren't kidding. That's actually crazy.
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Damn, thought the WKND homies were ride or die.
Disappointing they threw Johan under the bus.
Most of the other older Floridians on the west coast are garbage too.
wknd /ripndip /gxmen its all the same.
More names will come out...
This man waited 12 years to make this his first post.
(https://i.imgur.com/tH18Ik3.jpg)
Holy shit, you weren't kidding. That's actually crazy.
haha I think he's going to fade away for another 12 years.
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The hysteria about STI's is ridiculous. Herpes isn't a big deal, HIV isn't even a big deal anymore. I'd rather have HIV than diabetes. Maybe it's a big deal cost wise in the States but in any other first world country it's easily managed with one pill. How many of you people are out of shape, drink, smoke, eat flesh, and are worried about some cold sores? Even the word "clean" shouldn't be used when asking if someone has an infection.
I don't care if the woman asked him 1000 times, she ended up taking him at his word, a person she didn't really know. That's stupidity.
this. when I was training to work in a medical lab, one of the first thing we learned when handling blood and bodily fluids was to operate under the assumption that every sample was infected, and to protect yourself accordingly. the same things applies to sexual interaction. most people who pass STIs are asymptomatic and probably don't know they even have anything. I'm not in any way defending lying to your partner, and Johan has clearly displayed a pattern of abuse, but in general, as an adult you are responsible for protecting your own health.
Oh yeah because everyone goes to school for casual sex, definitely the same thing as being a trained medical professional. Did you go to law school too? Just hoping you had some insight as to the legal ramifications on knowingly passing on an STI and lying about it consider that's the fucking issue here
Goddamn I hope to you don't procreate
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On the one hand, if we're just gonna forever roast this dude, then there is never any motivation to affect meaningful change in his life.
On the other hand, he totally deserves to be ridden out of town on a rail.
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The Danny Way thing isn't true. I don't understand why it persists because he's fully hateable without the fag-bashing murder thing,
Facts.
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The term "rape" can be deployed in this situation because Emily did not consent to having unprotected sex with someone who had an std. She asked him if he was clean, he lied and said no. She consented to having sex with someone who was clean, or at least believed themselves to be clean. Yes, this was naive, but it doesn't change the fact that she had sex under a non-consensual precedent. If Johan did not know he had a disease, it would not be rape. But the fact that he DID know means he knowingly garnered consent under false pretense, rendering the act non-consensual. Emily was naive, Johan was straight up evil.
Nope. You don't get to define a word that already has a meaning. He fucked up but it's not rape. Sorry to burst false sense of reality.
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The Danny Way thing isn't true. I don't understand why it persists because he's fully hateable without the fag-bashing murder thing,
It was a Chris Pontius interview. He said a bunch of stuff about Danny and crew. Said the had guns at their skate shop.
I clipped a tread for the poster above should he want to get up to speed.
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=80765.0
Holy shit! I’ve always thought Danny did with a brick! And he pissed himself! Wild stuff
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What kinda condoms yall rock I like Trojan ribbed.
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The Danny Way thing isn't true. I don't understand why it persists because he's fully hateable without the fag-bashing murder thing,
It was a Chris Pontius interview. He said a bunch of stuff about Danny and crew. Said the had guns at their skate shop.
I clipped a tread for the poster above should he want to get up to speed.
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=80765.0
Thanks for this. I’ll read through the whole thing tonight!
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Don't get it twisted dude. These are guys are the WORST. Just because one of your friends may have cracked a beer with a couple of them doesn't mean they are solid dudes.
Also don't be fooled by their disingenuous attempts to save face. Of course they're going to do whatever they can to disassociate from these incidents. Their company and reputations are on the line.
There is a reason nobody likes these dudes in LA. If they lived in your city your opinion would likely be the same.
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Anoyone defending Johan Stuckey or WKND skateboards is fucking Delusional . From an outsiders perspective sure these dudes seem to have a funny and fun aesthetic but the reality is that they are all incredibly egotistical douche bags. Every last one of them. They all live in my neighborhood and I’ve had several encounters with them at bars. These dudes are the fucking worst.
Maalouf sucks as well. Can’t speak on Trevor. Total cocks.
jordan, trevor, alexis, zac and andrew are all great people
I know ppl well who also vouch for Jordan and Alex as great ppl. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.
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Don't get it twisted dude. These are guys are the WORST. Just because one of your friends may have cracked a beer with a couple of them doesn't mean they are solid dudes.
Also don't be fooled by their disingenuous attempts to save face. Of course they're going to do whatever they can to disassociate from these incidents. Their company and reputations are on the line.
There is a reason nobody likes these dudes in LA. If they lived in your city your opinion would likely be the same.
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Anoyone defending Johan Stuckey or WKND skateboards is fucking Delusional . From an outsiders perspective sure these dudes seem to have a funny and fun aesthetic but the reality is that they are all incredibly egotistical douche bags. Every last one of them. They all live in my neighborhood and I’ve had several encounters with them at bars. These dudes are the fucking worst.
Maalouf sucks as well. Can’t speak on Trevor. Total cocks.
jordan, trevor, alexis, zac and andrew are all great people
I know ppl well who also vouch for Jordan and Alex as great ppl. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.
no i agree with you completely. i grew up around all of them, trust me i know. i’m just saying zac, andrew and trevor are the only three from florida who are really good people.
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Damn it took me a whole week to get through this. Whole lot of hideous bad takes in here. Fuck Johan, fuck all you victim blaming douchelords, fuck wknd, aaaaaaand fuck yesterday's pop for the chimp comment.
I watched that weird skate poker game with Marc Johnson and the Wknd team and all I remember was thinking Johan was a fucking asshole. None of this surprises me. I hope he suffers, loses the ego, learns from this and lives a humble life trying to make amends, but I expect he'll convince himself he's the real victim and ramp up his horrendous treatment of women. Asshole.
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The term "rape" can be deployed in this situation because Emily did not consent to having unprotected sex with someone who had an std. She asked him if he was clean, he lied and said no. She consented to having sex with someone who was clean, or at least believed themselves to be clean. Yes, this was naive, but it doesn't change the fact that she had sex under a non-consensual precedent. If Johan did not know he had a disease, it would not be rape. But the fact that he DID know means he knowingly garnered consent under false pretense, rendering the act non-consensual. Emily was naive, Johan was straight up evil.
Nope. You don't get to define a word that already has a meaning. He fucked up but it's not rape. Sorry to burst false sense of reality.
As someone astutely pointed out earlier, there is a serious dearth of useful vocabulary for all the gray areas of consent women are subjected to and have to navigate with men. If it was not rape, but it was also non-consensual given the false pretense Johan presented her with, what language do we employ to describe it? It's not the same as someone just lying about their job to get laid or something like that because what was being lied about fundamentally changes the nature of the physical act being agreed upon by the person being lied to about it. Weird analogy coming but follow me here; If a man is given consent to finger a woman, then penetrates her with another object instead, this is sexual assault because the object used was not consented to. Think of a clean dick being one type of sexual object, and a diseased dick being another type of object. If a woman explicitly asks to be penetrated with a clean dick, and the man explicitly tells her he is going to penetrate using a clean dick, and then ends up KNOWINGLY penetrating her with the diseased dick, i.e. an object she did not consent to, is that any different than the prior scenario?
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Don't get it twisted dude. These are guys are the WORST. Just because one of your friends may have cracked a beer with a couple of them doesn't mean they are solid dudes.
Also don't be fooled by their disingenuous attempts to save face. Of course they're going to do whatever they can to disassociate from these incidents. Their company and reputations are on the line.
There is a reason nobody likes these dudes in LA. If they lived in your city your opinion would likely be the same.
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Anoyone defending Johan Stuckey or WKND skateboards is fucking Delusional . From an outsiders perspective sure these dudes seem to have a funny and fun aesthetic but the reality is that they are all incredibly egotistical douche bags. Every last one of them. They all live in my neighborhood and I’ve had several encounters with them at bars. These dudes are the fucking worst.
Maalouf sucks as well. Can’t speak on Trevor. Total cocks.
jordan, trevor, alexis, zac and andrew are all great people
I know ppl well who also vouch for Jordan and Alex as great ppl. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.
no i agree with you completely. i grew up around all of them, trust me i know. i’m just saying zac, andrew and trevor are the only three from florida who are really good people.
what you guys got against christian maalouf? dude's a bit awkward but a sweetheart
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Thought experiment:
Johan lies about his disease
they use a condom
the condom rips
she catches a disease.
Who is to blame?
Take that "play stupid games" shit back to reddit.
Shout out to Storybook for the coverage. Discount LPQ
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what you guys got against christian maalouf? dude's a bit awkward but a sweetheart
I try not to bad mouth too many dudes, but MaGoof is basically incapable of being nice to anyone who he believes is below him in status.
I hear the AZ people talk about how great Marty Murawski is and how they miss having him around; I hear people talk up Matt Price and Levi Brown all day long, but I've never heard a single person say, "I wish MaGoof was here to vibe everyone that walks in the door of Cowtown (or Salvation when it was still around). I enjoyed him being too cool for everyone and making everyone who wasn't 'cool' feel like shit all day long."
He isn't some 1010 monster, but the dude isn't fun to be around (unless he thinks being nice will benefit him in some way).
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what you guys got against christian maalouf? dude's a bit awkward but a sweetheart
I try not to bad mouth too many dudes, but MaGoof is basically incapable of being nice to anyone who he believes is below him in status.
I hear the AZ people talk about how great Marty Murawski is and how they miss having him around; I hear people talk up Matt Price and Levi Brown all day long, but I've never heard a single person say, "I wish MaGoof was here to vibe everyone that walks in the door of Cowtown or Salvation (when it was still around). I enjoyed him being too cool for everyone and making everyone who wasn't "cool" feel like shit all day long."
He isn't some 1010 monster, but the dude isn't fun to be around (unless he thinks being nice will benefit him in some way).
hmm odd. he was always incredibly nice to me and i'm certainly not "cool." my impression of him seemed to be that he was just more reserved than some. do you know him personally?
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I'd love to hear Chase/Nyjah/Loy address the rape allegations against them.
As far as I know, no woman ever publicly accused them. And yet, as far as I know, none of them have ever addressed the allegations either.
I've always wondered whether it's a Slap rumour or if it's actually true. I can't recall seeing any evidence besides accusations on this messageboard and others, but please let me know if evidence exists.
I feel like they at least owe us an explanation, and if nothing ever happened, surely it's in their interests to make a statement.
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what you guys got against christian maalouf? dude's a bit awkward but a sweetheart
I try not to bad mouth too many dudes, but MaGoof is basically incapable of being nice to anyone who he believes is below him in status.
I hear the AZ people talk about how great Marty Murawski is and how they miss having him around; I hear people talk up Matt Price and Levi Brown all day long, but I've never heard a single person say, "I wish MaGoof was here to vibe everyone that walks in the door of Cowtown or Salvation (when it was still around). I enjoyed him being too cool for everyone and making everyone who wasn't "cool" feel like shit all day long."
He isn't some 1010 monster, but the dude isn't fun to be around (unless he thinks being nice will benefit him in some way).
Of course he doesn't
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what you guys got against christian maalouf? dude's a bit awkward but a sweetheart
I try not to bad mouth too many dudes, but MaGoof is basically incapable of being nice to anyone who he believes is below him in status.
I hear the AZ people talk about how great Marty Murawski is and how they miss having him around; I hear people talk up Matt Price and Levi Brown all day long, but I've never heard a single person say, "I wish MaGoof was here to vibe everyone that walks in the door of Cowtown or Salvation (when it was still around). I enjoyed him being too cool for everyone and making everyone who wasn't "cool" feel like shit all day long."
He isn't some 1010 monster, but the dude isn't fun to be around (unless he thinks being nice will benefit him in some way).
Of course he doesn't
You caught me. I just thought it'd be cool if I name dropped/criticized the most random skater because ______.
Honestly, it doesn't take much to remember the guy who worked at the local "core" shop and who was a complete dick to everyone who came in there.
Maybe he's grown up, but like I said, I don't hear people pining over the good ol days when he was around.
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what you guys got against christian maalouf? dude's a bit awkward but a sweetheart
I try not to bad mouth too many dudes, but MaGoof is basically incapable of being nice to anyone who he believes is below him in status.
I hear the AZ people talk about how great Marty Murawski is and how they miss having him around; I hear people talk up Matt Price and Levi Brown all day long, but I've never heard a single person say, "I wish MaGoof was here to vibe everyone that walks in the door of Cowtown or Salvation (when it was still around). I enjoyed him being too cool for everyone and making everyone who wasn't "cool" feel like shit all day long."
He isn't some 1010 monster, but the dude isn't fun to be around (unless he thinks being nice will benefit him in some way).
Of course he doesn't
You caught me. I just thought it'd be cool if I name dropped/criticized the most random skater because ______.
Honestly, it doesn't take much to remember the guy who worked at the local "core" shop and who was a complete dick to everyone who came in there.
Maybe he's grown up, but like I said, I don't hear people pining over the good ol days when he was around.
i didn't know him in his AZ days so i cant speak on his character back then. i will say that when I knew him in LA, he always went out of his way to talk to me despite me being essentially a nobody. trevor is the goat as well
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Isn't Koston cool with this guy? I remember seeing a lot of footage with him and Koston together.
Not saying Koston should be associated with this incident, but it makes me wonder who outside of the WKND dudes knew.
I do think not everyone knew that Johan was doing this, I'm sure there were dudes who would joke about Johan's STD's as something of a running gag that they hadn't assumed was something based on reality. Not excusing Johan or his friends, but for those who didn't know and are being affected by this I do feel bad. Feel worse for the girls who were victims to Johan the most of course, fuck this guy.
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https://www.upi.com/Archives/1992/07/29/Robin-Williams-herpes-lawsuit-settled/5492712382400/#:~:text=SAN%20FRANCISCO%20--%20A%20confidential,herpes%20virus%2C%20attorneys%20said%20Wednesday.
Dead Penis Society
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Has he lost any other sponsors?
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You guys realize that herpes is still VERY contagious even with the use of a condom, right?
"Be aware that not all herpes sores occur in areas that are covered by a latex condom. Also, herpes virus can be released (shed) from areas of the skin that do not have a visible herpes sore. For these reasons, condoms may not fully protect you from getting herpes."
Also, most people don't even know they have the disease. That's why 1 out of every 6 people in the US have the disease.
"Most people who have genital herpes have no symptoms, or have very mild symptoms. You may not notice mild symptoms or you may mistake them for another skin condition, such as a pimple or ingrown hair. Because of this, most people who have herpes do not know it."
Quotes from: https://www.cdc.gov/std/herpes/stdfact-herpes.htm
The only thing this guy did that crosses a line - in my view - is pushing the woman's head down.
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wtf is going on on.
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People from the WKND team are publicly disavowing Johan in their IG stories.
Who ?
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Isn't Koston cool with this guy? I remember seeing a lot of footage with him and Koston together.
Not saying Koston should be associated with this incident, but it makes me wonder who outside of the WKND dudes knew.
I do think not everyone knew that Johan was doing this, I'm sure there were dudes who would joke about Johan's STD's as something of a running gag that they hadn't assumed was something based on reality. Not excusing Johan or his friends, but for those who didn't know and are being affected by this I do feel bad. Feel worse for the girls who were victims to Johan the most of course, fuck this guy.
Yeah, that is how I saw it. I don't see the need to immediately throw everyone at WKND under the bus over this. I could see a situation where they thought he might have given a girl a cureable std (there were three to choose from) at some point and they busted his balls about it, I mean shit happens. But he obviously lied to the girls and and was embarrased so there was a good chance he lied to his friends as well.
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The tl;dr version is this
Jonas has unprotected sex with a girl, and lied about not having an STD when he actually has herpes.
The lady caught it, and was pissed, so she is calling him out.
SLAP is now concerned with what deserves more attention, the fact that Johan lied and infected this girl, or that the girl wasn’t proactive enough in the fact that Johan might lie to her.
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The tl;dr version is this
Jonas has unprotected sex with a girl, and lied about not having an STD when he actually has herpes.
The lady caught it, and was pissed, so she is calling him out.
SLAP is now concerned with what deserves more attention, the fact that Johan lied and infected this girl, or that the girl wasn’t proactive enough in the fact that Johan might lie to her.
According to her. Do you have evidence to support the claim that he knowingly spread the virus? I doubt it.
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In that case, I suggest you read the whole thread. There are guys on film joking about him infecting girls with STDs.
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thats what she gets for fuckin a dude named Johan
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I'd love to hear Chase/Nyjah/Loy address the rape allegations against them.
As far as I know, no woman ever publicly accused them. And yet, as far as I know, none of them have ever addressed the allegations either.
I've always wondered whether it's a Slap rumour or if it's actually true. I can't recall seeing any evidence besides accusations on this messageboard and others, but please let me know if evidence exists.
I feel like they at least owe us an explanation, and if nothing ever happened, surely it's in their interests to make a statement.
I’m with you on hearing them address the situation. I remember hearing about a video existing and them possibly paying for the victims silence. But that’s the extent of it...
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What kinda condoms yall rock I like Trojan ribbed.
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The tl;dr version is this
Jonas has unprotected sex with a girl, and lied about not having an STD when he actually has herpes.
The lady caught it, and was pissed, so she is calling him out.
SLAP is now concerned with what deserves more attention, the fact that Johan lied and infected this girl, or that the girl wasn’t proactive enough in the fact that Johan might lie to her.
According to her. Do you have evidence to support the claim that he knowingly spread the virus? I doubt it.
According to his texts. Check the screenshots.
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I'd love to hear Chase/Nyjah/Loy address the rape allegations against them.
As far as I know, no woman ever publicly accused them. And yet, as far as I know, none of them have ever addressed the allegations either.
I've always wondered whether it's a Slap rumour or if it's actually true. I can't recall seeing any evidence besides accusations on this messageboard and others, but please let me know if evidence exists.
I feel like they at least owe us an explanation, and if nothing ever happened, surely it's in their interests to make a statement.
Can someone DM DLoy, Nyjah, and Chase like a man and ask them why they are staying silent
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what you guys got against christian maalouf? dude's a bit awkward but a sweetheart
I try not to bad mouth too many dudes, but MaGoof is basically incapable of being nice to anyone who he believes is below him in status.
I hear the AZ people talk about how great Marty Murawski is and how they miss having him around; I hear people talk up Matt Price and Levi Brown all day long, but I've never heard a single person say, "I wish MaGoof was here to vibe everyone that walks in the door of Cowtown or Salvation (when it was still around). I enjoyed him being too cool for everyone and making everyone who wasn't "cool" feel like shit all day long."
He isn't some 1010 monster, but the dude isn't fun to be around (unless he thinks being nice will benefit him in some way).
i do know him personally. he's a pretty generous and respecting person.. wasn't always but he is now. his friends could learn a thing or two from him about personal growth
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what you guys got against christian maalouf? dude's a bit awkward but a sweetheart
I try not to bad mouth too many dudes, but MaGoof is basically incapable of being nice to anyone who he believes is below him in status.
I hear the AZ people talk about how great Marty Murawski is and how they miss having him around; I hear people talk up Matt Price and Levi Brown all day long, but I've never heard a single person say, "I wish MaGoof was here to vibe everyone that walks in the door of Cowtown or Salvation (when it was still around). I enjoyed him being too cool for everyone and making everyone who wasn't "cool" feel like shit all day long."
He isn't some 1010 monster, but the dude isn't fun to be around (unless he thinks being nice will benefit him in some way).
Of course he doesn't
You caught me. I just thought it'd be cool if I name dropped/criticized the most random skater because ______.
Honestly, it doesn't take much to remember the guy who worked at the local "core" shop and who was a complete dick to everyone who came in there.
Maybe he's grown up, but like I said, I don't hear people pining over the good ol days when he was around.
my friends and i met taylor caruso at lincoln park on a visit out to LA and i knew who he was but never said anything to him until it was getting dark and we were all about to leave but he was super cool to all of us. talked to us the whole time, did the whole “i’ll back you up” thing when we were all trying tricks/lines, asked if we minded if waxed the flatbar, etc. etc. dude was super nice and i asked what his name was (to be sure i wasn’t tripping) and he told us that if we were here the next day he’d see us then and to enjoy our trip, that whole spiel. random story and i’m not taking up for wknd or anything in the slightest just wanted to give my impression of a wknd dude since a few others were too
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what you guys got against christian maalouf? dude's a bit awkward but a sweetheart
I try not to bad mouth too many dudes, but MaGoof is basically incapable of being nice to anyone who he believes is below him in status.
I hear the AZ people talk about how great Marty Murawski is and how they miss having him around; I hear people talk up Matt Price and Levi Brown all day long, but I've never heard a single person say, "I wish MaGoof was here to vibe everyone that walks in the door of Cowtown or Salvation (when it was still around). I enjoyed him being too cool for everyone and making everyone who wasn't "cool" feel like shit all day long."
He isn't some 1010 monster, but the dude isn't fun to be around (unless he thinks being nice will benefit him in some way).
i do know him personally. he's a pretty generous and respecting person.. wasn't always but he is now. his friends could learn a thing or two from him about personal growth
i knew christian back in the day before he grew up i guess. i’ve heard nothing but good things about him in the past few years but i haven’t seen or spoken to him. i’m glad to hear that though. i could always tell he was good at heart.
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The tl;dr version is this
Jonas has unprotected sex with a girl, and lied about not having an STD when he actually has herpes.
The lady caught it, and was pissed, so she is calling him out.
SLAP is now concerned with what deserves more attention, the fact that Johan lied and infected this girl, or that the girl wasn’t proactive enough in the fact that Johan might lie to her.
According to her. Do you have evidence to support the claim that he knowingly spread the virus? I doubt it.
According to his texts. Check the screenshots.
He also ADMITTED TO IT in his apology. Fuck this “according to her” bullshit. It’s according to him and her, and he only became truthful about it after being confronted. POS.
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So many pieces of shit in this thread. Johan admitted he lied about having herpes. Get this dude jail time. Who cares if he gets kicked off team. This fuck deserves jail time. Who knows how many people he infected. He’s a vile piece of trash. Stop defending this ugly fuck.
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what you guys got against christian maalouf? dude's a bit awkward but a sweetheart
I try not to bad mouth too many dudes, but MaGoof is basically incapable of being nice to anyone who he believes is below him in status.
I hear the AZ people talk about how great Marty Murawski is and how they miss having him around; I hear people talk up Matt Price and Levi Brown all day long, but I've never heard a single person say, "I wish MaGoof was here to vibe everyone that walks in the door of Cowtown or Salvation (when it was still around). I enjoyed him being too cool for everyone and making everyone who wasn't "cool" feel like shit all day long."
He isn't some 1010 monster, but the dude isn't fun to be around (unless he thinks being nice will benefit him in some way).
Of course he doesn't
You caught me. I just thought it'd be cool if I name dropped/criticized the most random skater because ______.
Honestly, it doesn't take much to remember the guy who worked at the local "core" shop and who was a complete dick to everyone who came in there.
Maybe he's grown up, but like I said, I don't hear people pining over the good ol days when he was around.
Taylor and Alex are both legends and really cool/ respectful. Nothing but good vibes from them.
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what you guys got against christian maalouf? dude's a bit awkward but a sweetheart
I try not to bad mouth too many dudes, but MaGoof is basically incapable of being nice to anyone who he believes is below him in status.
I hear the AZ people talk about how great Marty Murawski is and how they miss having him around; I hear people talk up Matt Price and Levi Brown all day long, but I've never heard a single person say, "I wish MaGoof was here to vibe everyone that walks in the door of Cowtown or Salvation (when it was still around). I enjoyed him being too cool for everyone and making everyone who wasn't "cool" feel like shit all day long."
He isn't some 1010 monster, but the dude isn't fun to be around (unless he thinks being nice will benefit him in some way).
Of course he doesn't
You caught me. I just thought it'd be cool if I name dropped/criticized the most random skater because ______.
Honestly, it doesn't take much to remember the guy who worked at the local "core" shop and who was a complete dick to everyone who came in there.
Maybe he's grown up, but like I said, I don't hear people pining over the good ol days when he was around.
had similar interactions with taylor too, dude is very friendly. not sure who was being referred to when someone mentioned the wknd dudes vibing them out at bars; most are super friendly. maybe just johan and austyn?
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But everyone still quiet about Nyjah....
https://mobile.twitter.com/cutiecig/status/1274073735926919174
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We've talking about Nyjah or Chase Webb and David Loy for years. Them last two gotta be sweatin
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WKND: “We didn’t know”
https://www.instagram.com/p/vjTVtLR3y0/?igshid=180h03otbqq59
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Emily’s now retweeting and instagramming the nyjah rape allegation so i guess we’ll see
(https://i.imgur.com/5vziGSn.jpg)
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I wonder is she knows about Chase Gabor tying up and sodomizing those kids with a screwdriver.
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will those guys serve jail time?
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will those guys serve jail time?
Doubt it.
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WKND: “We didn’t know”
https://www.instagram.com/p/vjTVtLR3y0/?igshid=180h03otbqq59
Damn, they took it down. I guess they're for sure reading this thread.
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Emily posted a story about her and Grant “having a lengthy conversation about accountability” and they now follow each other on Insta. I don’t know what that means, but I really hope WKND is doing something to make this right, if there’s anything to do at all.
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Emily posted a story about her and Grant “having a lengthy conversation about accountability” and they now follow each other on Insta. I don’t know what that means, but I really hope WKND is doing something to make this right, if there’s anything to do at all.
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Does that lady know that you can still get pregnant from unprotected sex even if the dude pulls out?
...So you're just gonna ignore the fact she told him not to finish inside her and he did anyway? You're a creepy weirdo man, stay away from women and children.
Ignore? It's pretty obvious it's discourteous to bust off when you say you won't lol. Put it together. What I gotta be Sherlock Holmes for you? It's just a fact. I remember from 7th grade sex ed you dribble before you shoot. Rules to live by.
Dude be quiet you're the lamest dude on this site. lol... you haven't like lol... hooked with with anyone besides your hand in a long time bud. Just because you almost lost a finger trying to give yourself a stranger and sat on your hand cutting off circulation doesn't mean you can talk about sex rules to live by. like lol. lol. lol.
There's a legitimate chance a woman can get pregnant from unprotected sex even with pulling out, pretty basic concept...
Still glazing the part where I called you the lamest dude on this site. AAAAND made fun of you for all the LOL's you're dumbass uses. You missed the point as you always do. Like lol n lol. and like lol. You're a fucktard and bring nothing to this site. You should focus before you become a pal bc posting 6 times a day is too much for us all.
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Can someone clarify if it was hsv-1 (oral herpes) or hsv-2 (genital herpes)?
If it was just hsv-1, this is being blown out of proportion.
HSV-1 is very common. You can get hsv-1 from sharing cups and/or passing joints. If you have ever gotten a cold sore on your lip, you have HSV-1.
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Can someone clarify if it was hsv-1 (oral herpes) or hsv-2 (genital herpes)?
If it was just hsv-1, this is being blown out of proportion.
HSV-1 is very common. You can get hsv-1 from sharing cups and/or passing joints. If you have ever gotten a cold sore on your lip, you have HSV-1.
Why don’t you fuck Johan and come back and tell us? What herpes do you think it is? They joked about girls sitting on his lap getting STDs, as far as I know , Johans mouth isn’t in his groin region, but he’s ugly as fuck and from Florida so you never know .
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Does that lady know that you can still get pregnant from unprotected sex even if the dude pulls out?
...So you're just gonna ignore the fact she told him not to finish inside her and he did anyway? You're a creepy weirdo man, stay away from women and children.
Ignore? It's pretty obvious it's discourteous to bust off when you say you won't lol. Put it together. What I gotta be Sherlock Holmes for you? It's just a fact. I remember from 7th grade sex ed you dribble before you shoot. Rules to live by.
Dude be quiet you're the lamest dude on this site. lol... you haven't like lol... hooked with with anyone besides your hand in a long time bud. Just because you almost lost a finger trying to give yourself a stranger and sat on your hand cutting off circulation doesn't mean you can talk about sex rules to live by. like lol. lol. lol.
There's a legitimate chance a woman can get pregnant from unprotected sex even with pulling out, pretty basic concept...
Still glazing the part where I called you the lamest dude on this site. AAAAND made fun of you for all the LOL's you're dumbass uses. You missed the point as you always do. Like lol n lol. and like lol. You're a fucktard and bring nothing to this site. You should focus before you become a pal bc posting 6 times a day is too much for us all.
Go cry into a philly cheese steak
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Can someone clarify if it was hsv-1 (oral herpes) or hsv-2 (genital herpes)?
If it was just hsv-1, this is being blown out of proportion.
HSV-1 is very common. You can get hsv-1 from sharing cups and/or passing joints. If you have ever gotten a cold sore on your lip, you have HSV-1.
Calm down, keyboard warrior. I didn’t read much of this thread so idk if it was oral or genital herpes.
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idk if it was oral or genital herpes.
it was HSV-2
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Can someone clarify if it was hsv-1 (oral herpes) or hsv-2 (genital herpes)?
If it was just hsv-1, this is being blown out of proportion.
HSV-1 is very common. You can get hsv-1 from sharing cups and/or passing joints. If you have ever gotten a cold sore on your lip, you have HSV-1.
How about just reading the thread then? This was addressed in the original Instagram post and throughout the thread.
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Emily’s now retweeting and instagramming the nyjah rape allegation so i guess we’ll see
(https://i.imgur.com/5vziGSn.jpg)
This just makes it seem like she's basking in the attention. Not a good look
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Emily’s now retweeting and instagramming the nyjah rape allegation so i guess we’ll see
(https://i.imgur.com/5vziGSn.jpg)
This just makes it seem like she's basking in the attention. Not a good look
She is
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do you mind letting the victims live as they please? maybe she's feeling seen/heard for the first time in awhile. maybe this is some shit she never saw herself overcoming. go everywhere else on the internet but her twitter if it incenses you?
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do you mind letting the victims live as they please? maybe she's feeling seen/heard for the first time in awhile. maybe this is some shit she never saw herself overcoming. go everywhere else on the internet but her twitter if it incenses you?
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do you mind letting the victims live as they please? maybe she's feeling seen/heard for the first time in awhile. maybe this is some shit she never saw herself overcoming. go everywhere else on the internet but her twitter if it incenses you?
I know if I had a hand in either calling out or eradicating shitty dude culture from skateboarding, I'd probably feel like the shit for a second.
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do you mind letting the victims live as they please? maybe she's feeling seen/heard for the first time in awhile. maybe this is some shit she never saw herself overcoming. go everywhere else on the internet but her twitter if it incenses you?
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do you mind letting the victims live as they please? maybe she's feeling seen/heard for the first time in awhile. maybe this is some shit she never saw herself overcoming. go everywhere else on the internet but her twitter if it incenses you?
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Nah it really makes a person look like an attention whore and almost like they're not taking it as seriously as they should.
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Nah it really makes a person look like an attention whore and almost like they're not taking it as seriously as they should.
woah, attacking the victim, how out of character for you
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Nah it really makes a person look like an attention whore and almost like they're not taking it as seriously as they should.
think your neckbeard is due for a trim
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Nah it really makes a person look like an attention whore and almost like they're not taking it as seriously as they should.
When you're having a sleepover and your mum brings you milk and cookies do you call her a bitch and tell her to get out of your room
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Emily posted a story about her and Grant “having a lengthy conversation about accountability” and they now follow each other on Insta. I don’t know what that means, but I really hope WKND is doing something to make this right, if there’s anything to do at all.
https://youtu.be/iqjPFU7LAK4
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Nah it really makes a person look like an attention whore and almost like they're not taking it as seriously as they should.
I just shaved yesterday
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The girl was given herpes for life..she can bask in whatever glory she so chooses.
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The girl was given herpes for life..she can bask in whatever glory she so chooses.
Hmm. Maybe you're right man.
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Emily’s now retweeting and instagramming the nyjah rape allegation so i guess we’ll see
(https://i.imgur.com/5vziGSn.jpg)
This just makes it seem like she's basking in the attention. Not a good look
She is
What happened to Emily is really fucked up. Even worse is it happens to people all the time. She was sexually assaulted no question about it. LookI’m female so I know how it goes when women are put in situations where they wanna leave but are afraid that what might happen(rape) is better than what could happen(physical abuse,death) and guys might seem like that’s extreme but if a guys got you where he wants you really don’t know what to expect. Johan is trash for this no doubt. But what was the attraction in the first place? He’s so nasty with the teeth and the glasses and no amount of talent that he possess could equal that out. She’s a gorgeous girl and it doesn’t really seem that she skates so maybe she just supports skaters the old fashioned way aka groupie and that’s OK TOO. Still doesn’t make her assault any less damaging. At first I thought wow she so brave so come forward but after this tweet and some investigating it Would seem like she’s trying to have a voice so she could be heard on any topic this one (sexual assault)just happened to be the one she’s chosen and THATS TOTALLY OK!! Don’t believe people honestly if you’re not in a committed long term relationship wrap it up. And also don’t expect his friends to call him out because 1) they might not know and/or2) they are probably scumbags like him. It sucks that some of the hardest lessons we have to learn are the ones that have the most impact on us. She seems to have no real ties to skateboarding other than hanging out at the same bars and parties than skaters do. I understand her need to make it public and get revenge/justice I just don’t expect her to be the leader of the cause that she isn’t involved in.
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Emily’s now retweeting and instagramming the nyjah rape allegation so i guess we’ll see
(https://i.imgur.com/5vziGSn.jpg)
This just makes it seem like she's basking in the attention. Not a good look
She is
Hey are you Phil Spector but with a typewriter instead of a recording studio? Because that is a wall of text.
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Emily’s now retweeting and instagramming the nyjah rape allegation so i guess we’ll see
(https://i.imgur.com/5vziGSn.jpg)
This just makes it seem like she's basking in the attention. Not a good look
She is
“I see here you got herpes, tell me how this makes you the best candidate for this position.”
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Emily’s now retweeting and instagramming the nyjah rape allegation so i guess we’ll see
(https://i.imgur.com/5vziGSn.jpg)
This just makes it seem like she's basking in the attention. Not a good look
She is
asking questions like this doesn't contribute to anything. i guess we can shame him for his appearance, but i'd rather shame him for some shit he has control over.
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Johan is a piece of shit but he was the most wknd out of all of those dudes. The company seemed weird when Austyn left but now they might aswell merge wknd with skatemental.
To those wondering how this fool gets laid: personality. I remember that when he 1st moved from FL to LA, he was living with Austyn and he had just started dating a model. I think it's all in Austyn's EL.
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Emily’s now retweeting and instagramming the nyjah rape allegation so i guess we’ll see
(https://i.imgur.com/5vziGSn.jpg)
This just makes it seem like she's basking in the attention. Not a good look
She is
asking questions like this doesn't contribute to anything. i guess we can shame him for his appearance, but i'd rather shame him for some shit he has control over.
Braces and contacts?
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Who needs/is gonna genuinely miss this dude in skateboarding? Surprised he has as many fans as he does in the first place, go ahead and put him out to pasture. Good riddance. Chris Mango has always been the superior wise cracking, bespectacled, goofball skater anyway, and Frog comes off as a less trendy, more genuine version of what WKND does, if you ask me.
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Who needs/is gonna genuinely miss this dude in skateboarding? Surprised he has as many fans as he does in the first place, go ahead and put him out to pasture. Good riddance. Chris Mango has always been the superior wise cracking, bespectacled, goofball skater anyway, and Frog comes off as a less trendy, more genuine version of what WKND does, if you ask me.
To me, this will always be the superior bespectacled, wise-cracking skater
(https://i.pinimg.com/236x/60/2a/da/602ada18b7367d1ab887dc076552683e--jerry-oconnell-skateboard.jpg)
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Who needs/is gonna genuinely miss this dude in skateboarding? Surprised he has as many fans as he does in the first place, go ahead and put him out to pasture. Good riddance. Chris Mango has always been the superior wise cracking, bespectacled, goofball skater anyway, and Frog comes off as a less trendy, more genuine version of what WKND does, if you ask me.
To me, this will always be the superior bespectacled, wise-cracking skater
(https://i.pinimg.com/236x/60/2a/da/602ada18b7367d1ab887dc076552683e--jerry-oconnell-skateboard.jpg)
Touché, how could I forget the king of dismissive, dry humor himself?
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Who needs/is gonna genuinely miss this dude in skateboarding? Surprised he has as many fans as he does in the first place, go ahead and put him out to pasture. Good riddance. Chris Mango has always been the superior wise cracking, bespectacled, goofball skater anyway, and Frog comes off as a less trendy, more genuine version of what WKND does, if you ask me.
To me, this will always be the superior bespectacled, wise-cracking skater
(https://i.pinimg.com/236x/60/2a/da/602ada18b7367d1ab887dc076552683e--jerry-oconnell-skateboard.jpg)
!!!
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Who needs/is gonna genuinely miss this dude in skateboarding? Surprised he has as many fans as he does in the first place, go ahead and put him out to pasture. Good riddance. Chris Mango has always been the superior wise cracking, bespectacled, goofball skater anyway, and Frog comes off as a less trendy, more genuine version of what WKND does, if you ask me.
the guy was clinging on by a thread floating in flow limbo before his friend started a company and turned him pro lmao. not like he's young either. can't believe he was trying to "make it" for so long.
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Who needs/is gonna genuinely miss this dude in skateboarding? Surprised he has as many fans as he does in the first place, go ahead and put him out to pasture. Good riddance. Chris Mango has always been the superior wise cracking, bespectacled, goofball skater anyway, and Frog comes off as a less trendy, more genuine version of what WKND does, if you ask me.
agreed on mango and hsu sentiments though
Everything about Johan has always just dripped with insincerity and pretension to me, from his interviews, right down to his skating. Dude was never funny or clever, just came off as an insecure, annoying turd and his skating is DEFCON 1 level whack.
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Who needs/is gonna genuinely miss this dude in skateboarding? Surprised he has as many fans as he does in the first place, go ahead and put him out to pasture. Good riddance. Chris Mango has always been the superior wise cracking, bespectacled, goofball skater anyway, and Frog comes off as a less trendy, more genuine version of what WKND does, if you ask me.
agreed on mango and hsu sentiments though
one of the big jokes in the roast(other than how he has various STDS) is how Johan is constantly riding everyone's coat tails in skateboarding
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Does he still have is other sponsors?
I've already asked this question but still don't know.
To be honest... What even are his other sponsors
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Anyone else never paid attention to WKND or anything affiliated?
I never watched their videos or followed any of their riders. Not like I had anything against WKND in the past, just never got my interest in the sea of a million board companies.
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Anyone else never paid attention to WKND or anything affiliated?
I never watched their videos or followed any of their riders. Not like I had anything against WKND in the past, just never got my interest in the sea of a million board companies.
always seemed like a boring, off-brand bastard child of skate mental and sour or something to me. Hard pass
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Does he still have is other sponsors?
I've already asked this question but still don't know.
To be honest... What even are his other sponsors
Sure on the last interview I heard, maybe on the bunt, he was talking of some trips with Vans hoping it would lead somewhere. Doubtful now!
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LOL straight people get so upset about sti's
Herpes is barely a real STI
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Emily posted a story about her and Grant “having a lengthy conversation about accountability” and they now follow each other on Insta. I don’t know what that means, but I really hope WKND is doing something to make this right, if there’s anything to do at all.
Every video I link goes private within hours. (This one was Grant doing a parody of Jeremy Rodgers). They are nervously refreshing this thread boys. We run this industry
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This has been like a breakup for me, your bummed you're over it, and then after some time passes you see how bad it all was and you're glad to not care about them anymore. Goodnight herp prince.
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This has been like a breakup for me, your bummed you're over it, and then after some time passes you see how bad it all was and you're glad to not care about them anymore. Goodnight herp prince.
Agreed Fuck Johan and fuck wknd but wkndtage and cosmic vomit were my shit in highschool. just a reminder that just cause someone is a good skater doesnt mean there a good person
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That's a real bummer if you grew up on them. Sir Palmer is my shit though for real. Luckily that's like an Alex Schmitt joint.
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https://www.instagram.com/p/CAI9YYXh0qT/?igshid=1gu73tyz1i96e
I think that was switch.
He should have just fucked her armpits then he wouldn't be in this mess.
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Haven't been following the thread, but here's a post by her boyfriend.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CCL70SlHEaC/?igshid=110xeglmmtc4h
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So has Johan Stuckey been charged with rape by a court of law?
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If you have an active cold sore and you go down on a girl and vice versa you can give them/get genital herpes right?
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Oh you absolutely can. My girl at the time and I, many years ago, took another lady into our room for love times. I ended up with face herpes but my ex contracted them downstairs. When they came on she was in SERIOUS pain for days. Brutal to watch.
I then passed them on to another gf's asshole, as I had no idea that I had a small sore in my mouth. Highly contagious is herpes. Be careful out there.
Also, fuck this guy.
I stand corrected.
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So has Johan Stuckey been charged with rape by a court of law?
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https://www.instagram.com/p/CAI9YYXh0qT/?igshid=1gu73tyz1i96e
I think that was switch.
He should have just fucked her armpits then he wouldn't be in this mess.
Oh dang is she a dancer? I’m still surprised ugly Johan was able to have sex with these beautiful women
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I think that was switch.
He should have just fucked her armpits then he wouldn't be in this mess.
Oh dang is she a dancer? I’m still surprised ugly Johan was able to have sex with these beautiful women
Her dad kinda looks like Johan. She might have a weird Daddy fetish thing going on.
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Who needs/is gonna genuinely miss this dude in skateboarding? Surprised he has as many fans as he does in the first place, go ahead and put him out to pasture. Good riddance. Chris Mango has always been the superior wise cracking, bespectacled, goofball skater anyway, and Frog comes off as a less trendy, more genuine version of what WKND does, if you ask me.
To me, this will always be the superior bespectacled, wise-cracking skater
(https://i.pinimg.com/236x/60/2a/da/602ada18b7367d1ab887dc076552683e--jerry-oconnell-skateboard.jpg)
Jerry for the win
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Who needs/is gonna genuinely miss this dude in skateboarding? Surprised he has as many fans as he does in the first place, go ahead and put him out to pasture. Good riddance. Chris Mango has always been the superior wise cracking, bespectacled, goofball skater anyway, and Frog comes off as a less trendy, more genuine version of what WKND does, if you ask me.
To me, this will always be the superior bespectacled, wise-cracking skater
(https://i.pinimg.com/236x/60/2a/da/602ada18b7367d1ab887dc076552683e--jerry-oconnell-skateboard.jpg)
Jerry for the win
Jerry's bag of suck is superior to both stuckey and Mango's whole careers put together .
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Who needs/is gonna genuinely miss this dude in skateboarding? Surprised he has as many fans as he does in the first place, go ahead and put him out to pasture. Good riddance. Chris Mango has always been the superior wise cracking, bespectacled, goofball skater anyway, and Frog comes off as a less trendy, more genuine version of what WKND does, if you ask me.
To me, this will always be the superior bespectacled, wise-cracking skater
(https://i.pinimg.com/236x/60/2a/da/602ada18b7367d1ab887dc076552683e--jerry-oconnell-skateboard.jpg)
Jerry for the win
Jerry's bag of suck is superior to both stuckey and Mango's whole careers put together .
We’re gonna still be talking about Jerry’s Bag of Suck part in ten years.
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Who needs/is gonna genuinely miss this dude in skateboarding? Surprised he has as many fans as he does in the first place, go ahead and put him out to pasture. Good riddance. Chris Mango has always been the superior wise cracking, bespectacled, goofball skater anyway, and Frog comes off as a less trendy, more genuine version of what WKND does, if you ask me.
To me, this will always be the superior bespectacled, wise-cracking skater
(https://i.pinimg.com/236x/60/2a/da/602ada18b7367d1ab887dc076552683e--jerry-oconnell-skateboard.jpg)
Jerry for the win
Jerry's bag of suck is superior to both stuckey and Mango's whole careers put together .
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LOL straight people get so upset about sti's
Gay, most of my straight friends don’t know a single person who has HIV. I always thought that was weird, even the needle sharing fentanyl junkies don’t seem to come across it much. Meanwhile, in my neck of the woods....
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Emily posted a story about her and Grant “having a lengthy conversation about accountability” and they now follow each other on Insta. I don’t know what that means, but I really hope WKND is doing something to make this right, if there’s anything to do at all.
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For everyone saying "Why not go to the cops" and "Has he been indicted," ask Google to show you some personal essays of women describing dealing with the police after a sexual assault. It's beyond ugly. Cops are great if you want someone to show up three hours late and shoot your dog, but that's it.
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For everyone saying "Why not go to the cops" and "Has he been indicted," ask Google to show you some personal essays of women describing dealing with the police after a sexual assault. It's beyond ugly. Cops are great if you want someone to show up three hours late and shoot your dog, but that's it.
I’m getting this retort a lot in YouTube comments, it’s dumbfounding how dense people are when it comes to rape trauma and reliving it with some uncaring police officers.
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For everyone saying "Why not go to the cops" and "Has he been indicted," ask Google to show you some personal essays of women describing dealing with the police after a sexual assault. It's beyond ugly. Cops are great if you want someone to show up three hours late and shoot your dog, but that's it.
I’m getting this retort a lot in YouTube comm...
Don’t read YouTube comments. Read a book
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So, are we done with this thread now?
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So, are we done with this thread now?
His main (only?) sponsor already told him to kick rocks, so not much left to discuss there.
At this point, the best offer he can hope for going forward is a pro model on Castle Bolts.
Fuck that guy Johan & call it a wrap, then?
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For everyone saying "Why not go to the cops" and "Has he been indicted," ask Google to show you some personal essays of women describing dealing with the police after a sexual assault. It's beyond ugly. Cops are great if you want someone to show up three hours late and shoot your dog, but that's it.
I’m getting this retort a lot in YouTube comments, it’s dumbfounding how dense people are when it comes to rape trauma and reliving it with some uncaring police officers.
I’ve got some people real close to me that have had to go through this experience and they’re absolutely heartbreaking stories to hear. I’ll never fault a rape victim for not reporting. Maybe false reports are common. I’m not a cop and don’t talk to any, so for all I know that’s where the indifference (or straight up hostility) comes from. But knowing what they went through, I wouldn’t even try to talk them into it if someone I know is going through that again and says they don’t want to report it.
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So, are we done with this thread now?
At this point, the best offer he can hope for going forward is a pro model on Castle Bolts.
Fuck that guy Johan & call it a wrap, then?
It's not about his career though. It's about people that were wronged and what could be done to legally hold him accountable.
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Point taken, and my bad.
My understanding of the concept of “canceling” was to trash somebody’s rep, thus their public lives, essentially sending them packing.
Figured the legal stuff can’t be affected much by assholes like me on a skate forum.
I’m with you, though provided it’s an offense of some law or statute, of course. Stick it to ‘im.
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Point taken, and my bad.
My understanding of the concept of “canceling” was to trash somebody’s rep, thus their public lives, essentially sending them packing.
Figured the legal stuff can’t be affected much by assholes like me on a skate forum.
I’m with you, though provided it’s an offense of some law or statute, of course. Stick it to ‘im.
I don't know if you're being sarcastic but yeah something should be done legally (I'm hoping) cause knowingly giving someone an STD should be reprehensible.
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Has Johan commented anything about this situation? Do you guys think this will be the last time we will be hearing from him and he’ll move back to Florida?
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Has Johan commented anything about this situation? Do you guys think this will be the last time we will be hearing from him and he’ll move back to Florida?
He was seen with koston today. Accuser on suppressive person confirmed
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So why is rape getting thrown in with The herpes business on instagram/twitter?
I see people talking like its confirmed he has raped multiple women.
Surely there are more official routes you can take than declaring you were raped to your instagram/twitter audience?
Im not questioning the victims authenticity - but it seems unfair that people can talk like he has raped mutliple women and yet there is no official process under way to confirm this.
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So has Johan Stuckey been charged with rape by a court of law?
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Surely there are more official routes you can take than declaring you were raped to your instagram/twitter audience?
If going to the police to seek justice for sex crimes was effective you would have a lot less cancel culture to complain about.
& I'm not advocating for effective police.
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Surely there are more official routes you can take than declaring you were raped to your instagram/twitter audience?
& I'm not advocating for effective police.
Yes I suppose ineffective police is better
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Surely there are more official routes you can take than declaring you were raped to your instagram/twitter audience?
& I'm not advocating for effective police.
Yes I suppose ineffective police is better
Considering the function of American policing- unequivocally yes.
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So why is rape getting thrown in with The herpes business on instagram/twitter?
I see people talking like its confirmed he has raped multiple women.
Surely there are more official routes you can take than declaring you were raped to your instagram/twitter audience?
Im not questioning the victims authenticity - but it seems unfair that people can talk like he has raped mutliple women and yet there is no official process under way to confirm this.
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So has Johan Stuckey been charged with rape by a court of law?
good question about the use of rape. first and foremost, technically what happened is considered non-consensual. this may not be rape in the form that we've built up in our minds but this IS non-consensual. withholding information like that does not give the woman all the tools to make an consenting decision.
also we wouldn't know if there was a process under way - the other women may have gone to the cops.
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Rape is a type of sexual assault involving sexual intercourse (or other forms of sexual penetration) carried out against a person without that person's consent. Lying about having an STD, though totally spineless, irresponsible and selfish - is not rape.
There are so many grey areas in what I have read about this that I cant even have an opinion at this point.
I just think its really unfair that people are daubing this guy a 'serial rapist' when this hasn't (to my knowledge) been anywhere near a court of law. If someone is publicly accused of being a peadophilia and then found not guilty - many people struggle to see them as anything other than a peadophile afterwards. And thats fucked up.
p.s spare me the 'fuck the police' bullshit.
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So why is rape getting thrown in with The herpes business on instagram/twitter?
I see people talking like its confirmed he has raped multiple women.
Surely there are more official routes you can take than declaring you were raped to your instagram/twitter audience?
Im not questioning the victims authenticity - but it seems unfair that people can talk like he has raped mutliple women and yet there is no official process under way to confirm this.
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So has Johan Stuckey been charged with rape by a court of law?
good question about the use of rape. first and foremost, technically what happened is considered non-consensual. this may not be rape in the form that we've built up in our minds but this IS non-consensual. withholding information like that does not give the woman all the tools to make an consenting decision.
also we wouldn't know if there was a process under way - the other women may have gone to the cops.
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For everyone saying "Why not go to the cops" and "Has he been indicted," ask Google to show you some personal essays of women describing dealing with the police after a sexual assault. It's beyond ugly. Cops are great if you want someone to show up three hours late and shoot your dog, but that's it.
In my personal life I know a handful of women who have tried to go to the police after being sexually assaulted, and not a single one saw any justice from it. The most action they saw was the cop politely taking notes and never following up.
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Rape is a type of sexual assault involving sexual intercourse (or other forms of sexual penetration) carried out against a person without that person's consent. Lying about having an STD, though totally spineless, irresponsible and selfish - is not rape.
Not technically, but this type of behavior is almost certainly negligent and could be the basis of civil liability.
If you know you have an STI and lie to someone about it so they'll sleep with you, that's negligence. In this case, Johan texted these women after the fact apologizing for his behavior and put up a public apology. Before they pulled the videos, there was the roast where all his friends had a laugh about his dirty dick. The paper trail is undeniable.
STIs aren't inherently a big deal. Herpes is kinda gross but common enough. If he just puts it out there, Johan avoids all this - maybe some of these girls say no thanks, and others ask him to wrap it up, or others don't care. That's all fine because they're giving informed consent.
Michael Vick was successfully sued on this basis. An ex caught herpes from him, and then found out he was getting medication under the nom de guerre "Ron Mexico," truly an all time great alias.
However, Michael Vick had NFL money and Johan Stuckey has a tapeworm.
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Rape is a type of sexual assault involving sexual intercourse (or other forms of sexual penetration) carried out against a person without that person's consent. Lying about having an STD, though totally spineless, irresponsible and selfish - is not rape.
Not technically, but this type of behavior is almost certainly negligent and could be the basis of civil liability.
If you know you have an STI and lie to someone about it so they'll sleep with you, that's negligence. In this case, Johan texted these women after the fact apologizing for his behavior and put up a public apology. Before they pulled the videos, there was the roast where all his friends had a laugh about his dirty dick. The paper trail is undeniable.
STIs aren't inherently a big deal. Herpes is kinda gross but common enough. If he just puts it out there, Johan avoids all this - maybe some of these girls say no thanks, and others ask him to wrap it up, or others don't care. That's all fine because they're giving informed consent.
Michael Vick was successfully sued on this basis. An ex caught herpes from him, and then found out he was getting medication under the nom de guerre "Ron Mexico," truly an all time great alias.
However, Michael Vick had NFL money and Johan Stuckey has a tapeworm.
If I ever focus & return, I shall re-emerge as Ron Mexico. This I pledge.
Of course, I will be stoned at some point between now & when ever, and also pledge that I am likely to forget everything I just typed.
As an aside, willingmy transmitting many of the “lesser“ STIs without advanced disclosure (being shady to get a lady?) is actually a misdemeanor & punishable by law & resulting in a fine. As pointed out above & elsewhere, there is also the very real possibility of a civil suit.
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So why is rape getting thrown in with The herpes business on instagram/twitter?
I see people talking like its confirmed he has raped multiple women.
Surely there are more official routes you can take than declaring you were raped to your instagram/twitter audience?
Im not questioning the victims authenticity - but it seems unfair that people can talk like he has raped mutliple women and yet there is no official process under way to confirm this.
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So has Johan Stuckey been charged with rape by a court of law?
she said he forced her to do sexual acts. it was posted out of order so people missed it.
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I made a joke about herpes not being a real STI but it’s still your responsibility to tell people about it. (I’ve been told and I’m like - don’t care). If you’re not doing then I don’t think you’ll have much credibility if someone else accuses you of raping them.
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I made a joke about herpes not being a real STI but it’s still your responsibility to tell people about it. (I’ve been told and I’m like - don’t care). If you’re not doing then I don’t think you’ll have much credibility if someone else accuses you of raping them.
Gnarbarge.
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pretty interesting story about how HSV stigma was promoted by pharmaceutical companies in the early 80s to promote antiviral drugs. It was largely ignored before then.
https://herpes.org.uk/how-herpes-got-its-stigma/
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I made a joke about herpes not being a real STI but it’s still your responsibility to tell people about it. (I’ve been told and I’m like - don’t care). If you’re not doing then I don’t think you’ll have much credibility if someone else accuses you of raping them.
🤷♂️ I already have the mouth one so I figure why not collect them all?
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I made a joke about herpes not being a real STI but it’s still your responsibility to tell people about it. (I’ve been told and I’m like - don’t care). If you’re not doing then I don’t think you’ll have much credibility if someone else accuses you of raping them.
You do you champ. Just let the partners know.
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pretty interesting story about how HSV stigma was promoted by pharmaceutical companies in the early 80s to promote antiviral drugs. It was largely ignored before then.
https://herpes.org.uk/how-herpes-got-its-stigma/
Yeah, well, fuck, people used to think syphyllis wasn’t a big deal either
SatanicPanic wildman confirmed
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Anyone thinking herpes is no big deal go contract it yourself see how it goes
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I made a joke about herpes not being a real STI but it’s still your responsibility to tell people about it. (I’ve been told and I’m like - don’t care). If you’re not doing then I don’t think you’ll have much credibility if someone else accuses you of raping them.
Always have
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pretty interesting story about how HSV stigma was promoted by pharmaceutical companies in the early 80s to promote antiviral drugs. It was largely ignored before then.
https://herpes.org.uk/how-herpes-got-its-stigma/
Yeah, well, fuck, people used to think syphyllis wasn’t a big deal either
SatanicPanic wildman confirmed
Who in the hell thought that? Sypyllis eats your brain. I highly doubt that anyone thought a disease which incapacitated multiple heads of state throughout the years was no big deal. Herpes maybe causes a rash every few months. Before the 70s no one even gave a shit.
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p.s spare me the 'fuck the police' bullshit.
Damn you deepthroating that boot huh
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pretty interesting story about how HSV stigma was promoted by pharmaceutical companies in the early 80s to promote antiviral drugs. It was largely ignored before then.
https://herpes.org.uk/how-herpes-got-its-stigma/
Yeah, well, fuck, people used to think syphyllis wasn’t a big deal either
SatanicPanic wildman confirmed
I don't know about you, but I don't need a pharmaceutical marketing machine to convince me that I might not enjoy a rash on my dick every few months.
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pretty interesting story about how HSV stigma was promoted by pharmaceutical companies in the early 80s to promote antiviral drugs. It was largely ignored before then.
https://herpes.org.uk/how-herpes-got-its-stigma/
Yeah, well, fuck, people used to think syphyllis wasn’t a big deal either
SatanicPanic wildman confirmed
I don't know about you, but I don't need a pharmaceutical marketing machine to convince me that I might not enjoy a rash on my dick every few months.
We may not like each other but on this we can fully agree.
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I wonder if his herpes impairs his skating at all? I can't imagine it would help.
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https://www.instagram.com/p/CCZHyEullfQ/
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(https://www.page45.com/store/Monsters-2.jpg)
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Ux1ucye3REo/SwgslyPlcOI/AAAAAAAABV4/kJtg1Iq0NXE/s1600/IMG_0005.jpg)
Worth getting.
http://www.gabbysplayhouse.com/tag/monsters-2/
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(https://www.page45.com/store/Monsters-2.jpg)
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Ux1ucye3REo/SwgslyPlcOI/AAAAAAAABV4/kJtg1Iq0NXE/s1600/IMG_0005.jpg)
Worth getting.
http://www.gabbysplayhouse.com/tag/monsters-2/
this is really trying to do something, but for the life of me, i can't figure it out.
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Those are two random scenes from the comic. It's good. Worth $20.
http://secretacres.com/?wpsc_product_category=schulz
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(https://www.page45.com/store/Monsters-2.jpg)
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Ux1ucye3REo/SwgslyPlcOI/AAAAAAAABV4/kJtg1Iq0NXE/s1600/IMG_0005.jpg)
Worth getting.
http://www.gabbysplayhouse.com/tag/monsters-2/
this is really trying to do something, but for the life of me, i can't figure it out.
Yeah I can't get what the point is. Something about herpes being a shitty stigma to have? I'm not sure.
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Everyone in this thread debating semantics regarding sexual assault terminology (and prosecution of/police response to said acts) should do themselves a favor and watch I May Destroy You on HBO. Deals with a lot of this shit, and is just thoroughly fucking excellent besides.
Brilliant show.
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well said. but grant, if you're reading this, you knew. its a shame it took something like this for you guys to hold him accountable.
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well said. but grant, if you're reading this, you knew. its a shame it took something like this for you guys to hold him accountable.
Second that. And deleting videos to try and cover your tracks definitely isn’t helping.
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well said. but grant, if you're reading this, you knew. its a shame it took something like this for you guys to hold him accountable.
Second that. And deleting videos to try and cover your tracks definitely isn’t helping.
Damn, they literally deleted that everywhere the roast was posted. Anyone got a saved copy of the roast?
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Grant yansura was already a kook... now he is mega kook
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Emily (the girl who started this) responded positively in Grant’s post and they’ve been talking back and forth about this. Grant also addresses the roast jokes in the comments. Seeing as the two parties are being cordial I'd like to believe Grant isn't being disingenuous but I’m glad there is some accountability being taken.
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Emily (the girl who started this) responded positively in Grant’s post and they’ve been talking back and forth about this. Grant also addresses the roast jokes in the comments. Seeing as the two parties are being cordial I have no reason to believe Grant is being disingenuous but I’m glad there is some accountability being taken.
Or... he's slick and he's got a lot to lose so he has to act like he's not disingenuous.
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^ he has a huge reason to be disingenuous. why wouldnt you think that?
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^ he has a huge reason to be disingenuous. why wouldnt you think that?
Damn Zurg got that new OG badge. Now I want a new Pokemon.
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There’s some fair amusing comments on those instagram pages
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Emily (the girl who started this) responded positively in Grant’s post and they’ve been talking back and forth about this. Grant also addresses the roast jokes in the comments. Seeing as the two parties are being cordial I have no reason to believe Grant is being disingenuous but I’m glad there is some accountability being taken.
Or... he's slick and he's got a lot to lose so he has to act like he's not disingenuous.
But he was cordial ::)
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^ he has a huge reason to be disingenuous. why wouldnt you think that?
Where the fuck is my OG badge
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^ he has a huge reason to be disingenuous. why wouldnt you think that?
I'm just going off of his interactions (online and otherwise) with the victim herself. She clearly has no problem being honest about this situation so I figure her reaction probably means more than any of ours, yeah? I'm not saying Grant/WKND are absolved of any responsibility, I'm just observing their responses to each other. Ultimately her take is the most important one here.
also regarding the roast, while a lot of the jokes were tasteless and lame, there's a huge difference between joking about your dirty party friend having an STD and lying to multiple women about it and knowingly spreading it to non-consenting victims. Obviously WKND should be held accountable for giving Johan a platform and enabling him, but that doesn't outright mean they knew he was doing that. If you found out your friend had an STD, that probably wouldn't be the first thing you would assume about them. At least I hope not.
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^ he has a huge reason to be disingenuous. why wouldnt you think that?
Where the fuck is my OG badge
I have one so you that means you have to be lame to get it.
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Emily’s now retweeting and instagramming the nyjah rape allegation so i guess we’ll see
(https://i.imgur.com/5vziGSn.jpg)
If she can get Nyjah thrown off Nike then we can talk about changing skateboarding. Johan was a very low hanging fruit in the skate industry, without the mentality or funds to defend himself. Him and his homies needed to start their own company to make it in the industry. This is why his homies turned on him immediately. They understand their livelihood is hanging by a thread. They rely on their company and brand loyalty to survive. Not their skateboarding ability.
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"I changed skateboarding in 2020"
...Maam, this is a Wendy's, and it's 2035.
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"I changed skateboarding in 2020"
...Maam, this is a Wendy's, and it's 2035.
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^ he has a huge reason to be disingenuous. why wouldnt you think that?
Where the fuck is my OG badge
I have one so you that means you have to be lame to get it.
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Emily’s now retweeting and instagramming the nyjah rape allegation so i guess we’ll see
(https://i.imgur.com/5vziGSn.jpg)
Quite an astute observation, shitty situation all around mainly Johan’s part.
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https://anthonypappalardo.substack.com/p/skateboarding-shames-victims (https://anthonypappalardo.substack.com/p/skateboarding-shames-victims)
SKATEBOARDING SHAMES VICTIMS
Empty Apologies, Empty Action, and the Defense of Toxic Masculinity.
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SKATEBOARDING SHAMES VICTIMS
Empty Apologies, Empty Action, and the Defense of Toxic Masculinity.
Read this in the cadence of AWS Pop's writing on an old typewriter after making some furniture in his basement, unable to make eye contact with himself in the mirror.
Gnarly comparison with the Cape Fear reference.
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SKATEBOARDING SHAMES VICTIMS
Empty Apologies, Empty Action, and the Defense of Toxic Masculinity.
I have to say this was absolutely awful.
Not only terribly written, but also terrible in general.
His commentary on the Slap forum is especially problematic, and totally ignores all the well-articulated posts in support of the victim that have appeared in this thread (and others on similar threads). He's discussing the same topics that have been touched upon here with much more finesse.
His post sounds entitled and arrogant to an absurd degree. Condescending not only to those he apposes but also those of us who might agree with some of the points he is trying to make.
A writer asking for filters and censorship is especially interesting and VERY worrying. If you drown out voices you don't agree with then what (dangerous) precedents are you setting; what dialogue can exist now; what chance does anyone have of learning anything?
So YOU get to write an article about this. But you want other people to be silenced? I might hate what people say; what they write on here, but the above is NOT the answer. Not to anything. This is one of the greatest problems we face in this fight and so many others: silencing and drawing lines/building walls (when the should be bridges, Etc)
Pappalardo: Seeing as how you obviously lurk here, if you're reading this I would love to talk to you about your "article" DM me.
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SKATEBOARDING SHAMES VICTIMS
Empty Apologies, Empty Action, and the Defense of Toxic Masculinity.
Toxic masculinity hahaha get the fuck out with that bullshit
You are so terrible that your very presence changes the tone of the threads that you contribute to. You are the quiet, shitty little voice in every thread that gets the trolls worked up and this post is a perfect example of your technique. I'm deeply surprised, based on some of the wild shit that you post, that you haven't been banned. You've definitely earned it. Focus your account and come back with a nicer persona.
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what skate "journalists" or op/ed writers should be covering is not the example of why this particular incident worked, but why this is the only incident that seemed to work correctly (for lack of a better term). Bullshit behavior was called out and the board sponsor admitted culpability, responded to the wronged party, and punished the wrongdoer and made statements from a company standpoint and from a rider standpoint that they will do better... all in a relatively timely fashion. They didn't erase any accusatory comments, claim 'that's not my experience', or do things on the sly. There are many who can justifiably take issue with what Grant/WKND knew and when they knew it vis a vis Johan having herpes/Johan recklessly spreading herpes and I'm not defending that. What I think should be acknowledged is that WKND acted as what should be seen as the bare minimum starting point for the future.
What I'd be interested in as a skateboarder and as a consumer of skate product is how to hold all these companies who have yet to acknowledge the other accusations accountable. It's difficult to boycott someone like Crailtap over the Biebel shit because I didn't buy their brand in the first place. However, it remains unacceptable that big brands like Nike, Monster and smaller fish like Birdhouse, Pizza, Create, GX1000 won't even look into the allegations and investigate. If Nyjah, David Loy, Chase Webb, Jamal Gibbs, Jordin from Create didn't rape anyone - say it. Justin Bieber and some actors from Riverdale got accused weeks ago and they responded quickly and decisively to refute those claims and offer exculpatory evidence. Ignoring it just makes the rumors fester longer.
i don't have any answers, i'm just frustrated by this industry and this wagon circling bullshit. pro wrestling (mostly on the UK side) had their Me Too movement a few weeks back and the industry's openness to the stories of abused women allowed for the perpertrators to at least lose their employment and that allowed for women to come forth and share their experiences, to relive that painful trauma again because in doing so, change might happen. Skateboarding has shown very little ability to display an iota of moral fibre in this matter. It couldn't even stamp out Jason Jessee when the evidence was his own fucking words.
Anyways, just venting a little, sorry for the long post.
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Empty Apologies, Empty Action, and the Defense of Toxic Masculinity.
Toxic masculinity hahaha get the fuck out with that bullshit
just a head's up - don't quote trolls like that. Many have them on ignore and if you quote, then the ignored comments get seen by everyone. but thanks for saying what needed to be said
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I had em on ignore but Fake Pops sure didn't
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Empty Apologies, Empty Action, and the Defense of Toxic Masculinity.
Toxic masculinity hahaha get the fuck out with that bullshit
I wasn't aware I had a technique. Anyway I just read the article and it kinda defends the victim so I don't get why people are so worked up about it.
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SKATEBOARDING SHAMES VICTIMS
Empty Apologies, Empty Action, and the Defense of Toxic Masculinity.
Toxic masculinity hahaha get the fuck out with that bullshit
just a head's up - don't quote trolls like that. Many have them on ignore and if you quote, then the ignored comments get seen by everyone. but thanks for saying what needed to be said
What's so bizarre to me is that people think I'm a troll. I don't say shit to just get a rise out of people. I merely question shit or offer a different opinion. If you don't like it that's fine I don't get upset but clearly some of you here can't handle it.
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I'm not sure why AP decided to alienate those who agree that Johan's actions were awful.
I'm really annoyed by APs characterization of SLAP's discussion of Hendrix and I'll be the first the question his promotion of Jenkem as some bastion of honesty and no holds barred skate journalism.
Let's not forget Jenkem refused to host the article on 1010. Maybe, AP forgot about that?
Not to mention, broadly, skate magazines edit out dumb ass statements for certain skaters and for those who ride for the right companies, while selectively calling out people like Nyjah for their terrible statements.
Fuck, as much as SLAP is hated by those who have access to megaphones in the industry (and we have our annoying number of trolls and just dumb posters), SLAP seems to be far more vocal than most.
I'm really really annoyed with his characterization of SLAP. Especially, when the obvious markers of rep and number of posts is considered. 99% of unsupportive comments for Julz were from those with no posts and tons of negative rep. Same goes for the majority of posts here questioning whether or not lying about herpes in order to trick someone into unprotected sex is reasonable behavior.
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Gary responds
https://youtu.be/nIkmFtMKh5I (https://youtu.be/nIkmFtMKh5I)
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https://youtu.be/nIkmFtMKh5I (https://youtu.be/nIkmFtMKh5I)
I’ll give him respect that judging by his hair he hasn’t been sneaking off to a barber (not an insult), but that was a Trump level word-jazz of nonsense
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Uhhhh yeah, no one cares Gary
All wary men say the same thing - WHO'S NEXT?! It don't fucking matter dude. Don't be a dick and you don't gotta worry. Case closed. Now please, mmm, shut up a your mouth.
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Uhhhh yeah, no one cares Gary
All wary men say the same thing - WHO'S NEXT?! It don't fucking matter dude. Don't be a dick and you don't gotta worry. Case closed. Now please, mmm, shut up a your mouth.
He gave a diplomatic answer since he works under the umbrella of the largest skateboard media company out right now, we saw this coming. He had the gumption to say that his actions were trash though, so at least give him that. He’s right though, people like Johan should have respected his partners and exercised some honesty in the matter.
Either way, at least he didn’t ignore it like The 9 Club does...
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What Johan did is super shitty. I know a female that actually does this as well. She doesn't disclose her herpes status to her partners.
Men and women can both be extremely shitty when it comes to sex, that's why I'm always super cautious. I have 3 friends that got tricked by women into having children. The women claimed they were on birth control, but they weren't. Always use a condom people, and never trust anyone that you don't want to be connected to forever when it comes to sex. One night can be a life sentence.
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What Johan did is super shitty. I know a female that actually does this as well. She doesn't disclose her herpes status to her partners.
Men and women can both be extremely shitty when it comes to sex, that's why I'm always super cautious. I have 3 friends that got tricked by women into having children. The women claimed they were on birth control, but they weren't. Always use a condom people, and never trust anyone that you don't want to be connected to forever when it comes to sex. One night can be a life sentence.
Well said buddy.
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Jenkem was as homophobic as any other skate media outlet for years. Plus the focus on tits and asses in all their different photo shoots at industry events. Fuck Johan, WKND, and Jenkem. They all lay in the same fucking bed.
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https://anthonypappalardo.substack.com/p/skateboarding-shames-victims (https://anthonypappalardo.substack.com/p/skateboarding-shames-victims)
SKATEBOARDING SHAMES VICTIMS
Empty Apologies, Empty Action, and the Defense of Toxic Masculinity.
I have to say this was absolutely awful.
Not only terribly written, but also terrible in general.
His commentary on the Slap forum is especially problematic, and totally ignores all the well-articulated posts in support of the victim that have appeared in this thread (and others on similar threads). He's discussing the same topics that have been touched upon here with much more finesse.
His post sounds entitled and arrogant to an absurd degree. Condescending not only to those he apposes but also those of us who might agree with some of the points he is trying to make.
A writer asking for filters and censorship is especially interesting and VERY worrying. If you drown out voices you don't agree with then what (dangerous) precedents are you setting; what dialogue can exist now; what chance does anyone have of learning anything?
So YOU get to write an article about this. But you want other people to be silenced? I might hate what people say; what they write on here, but the above is NOT the answer. Not to anything. This is one of the greatest problems we face in this fight and so many others: silencing and drawing lines/building walls (when the should be bridges, Etc)
Pappalardo: Seeing as how you obviously lurk here, if you're reading this I would love to talk to you about your "article" DM me.
Not sure if you ever got that DM but he’s responding to some people who came in from slap
https://anthonypappalardo.substack.com/p/skateboarding-shames-victims/comments (https://anthonypappalardo.substack.com/p/skateboarding-shames-victims/comments)
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Uhhhh yeah, no one cares Gary
All wary men say the same thing - WHO'S NEXT?! It don't fucking matter dude. Don't be a dick and you don't gotta worry. Case closed. Now please, mmm, shut up a your mouth.
the dude tries to please too many people in skateboarding these days ... although he puts in his small jabs every week, it’s not as bad as it used to be.
I wouldn’t doubt he knows deep hot lipstick gossip
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What Johan did is super shitty. I know a female that actually does this as well. She doesn't disclose her herpes status to her partners.
Men and women can both be extremely shitty when it comes to sex, that's why I'm always super cautious. I have 3 friends that got tricked by women into having children. The women claimed they were on birth control, but they weren't. Always use a condom people, and never trust anyone that you don't want to be connected to forever when it comes to sex. One night can be a life sentence.
Man, y’all should talk to each other or something. How does the saying go? “Fool me once shame on me, fool me a third time & shame on me three times; I really should’ve seen that coming when I was cumming.”
Anyways, as bad as herpes is, let’s not gloss over the fact that one of the worst STDs you can catch is CHILDREN!!! There’s no known medical treatment & symptoms can last anywhere from 18 years (if you’re lucky) to the rest of your life.
Trust me, old Lou speaks from experience as somebody who’s been infected twice already.
On the positive side, kids are the cutest of socially transmissible diseases.
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What Johan did is super shitty. I know a female that actually does this as well. She doesn't disclose her herpes status to her partners.
Men and women can both be extremely shitty when it comes to sex, that's why I'm always super cautious. I have 3 friends that got tricked by women into having children. The women claimed they were on birth control, but they weren't. Always use a condom people, and never trust anyone that you don't want to be connected to forever when it comes to sex. One night can be a life sentence.
Anyways, as bad as herpes is, let’s not gloss over the fact that one of the worst STDs you can catch is CHILDREN!!! There’s no known medical treatment & symptoms can last anywhere from 18 years (if you’re lucky) to the rest of your life.
Trust me, old Lou speaks from experience as somebody who’s been infected twice already.
On the positive side, kids are the cutest of socially transmissible diseases.
Male and female sex often leads to some form of procreation... kind of boggles my mind when people think they are somehow above this law and are confused why they got 3 kids
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What Johan did is super shitty. I know a female that actually does this as well. She doesn't disclose her herpes status to her partners.
Men and women can both be extremely shitty when it comes to sex, that's why I'm always super cautious. I have 3 friends that got tricked by women into having children. The women claimed they were on birth control, but they weren't. Always use a condom people, and never trust anyone that you don't want to be connected to forever when it comes to sex. One night can be a life sentence.
Wow that was put together so well. I agree. I fully back body condoms as well.
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What Johan did is super shitty. I know a female that actually does this as well. She doesn't disclose her herpes status to her partners.
Men and women can both be extremely shitty when it comes to sex, that's why I'm always super cautious. I have 3 friends that got tricked by women into having children. The women claimed they were on birth control, but they weren't. Always use a condom people, and never trust anyone that you don't want to be connected to forever when it comes to sex. One night can be a life sentence.
Exactly. Wrap it up always pull out. Never trust a man or a women unless you've been together for a while exclusively
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What Johan did is super shitty. I know a female that actually does this as well. She doesn't disclose her herpes status to her partners.
Men and women can both be extremely shitty when it comes to sex, that's why I'm always super cautious. I have 3 friends that got tricked by women into having children. The women claimed they were on birth control, but they weren't. Always use a condom people, and never trust anyone that you don't want to be connected to forever when it comes to sex. One night can be a life sentence.
What Johan did is super shitty. I know a female that actually does this as well. She doesn't disclose her herpes status to her partners.
Men and women can both be extremely shitty when it comes to sex, that's why I'm always super cautious. I have 3 friends that got tricked by women into having children. The women claimed they were on birth control, but they weren't. Always use a condom people, and never trust anyone that you don't want to be connected to forever when it comes to sex. One night can be a life sentence.
Rawbertson is that you?
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Johan is a piece of shit. That "apology" sucked.
Reading through this thread is fucking draining. Why are there so many trolls and shitheads? I don't remember Slap being this bad when I used to lurk like 10-15 years ago but maybe it just didn't bother me as much back then. Someone made a point that those posts come from either people with a low post count or very low rep, which is true. But it still sucks to read through.
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https://anthonypappalardo.substack.com/p/skateboarding-shames-victims (https://anthonypappalardo.substack.com/p/skateboarding-shames-victims)
SKATEBOARDING SHAMES VICTIMS
Empty Apologies, Empty Action, and the Defense of Toxic Masculinity.
I have to say this was absolutely awful.
Not only terribly written, but also terrible in general.
His commentary on the Slap forum is especially problematic, and totally ignores all the well-articulated posts in support of the victim that have appeared in this thread (and others on similar threads). He's discussing the same topics that have been touched upon here with much more finesse.
His post sounds entitled and arrogant to an absurd degree. Condescending not only to those he apposes but also those of us who might agree with some of the points he is trying to make.
A writer asking for filters and censorship is especially interesting and VERY worrying. If you drown out voices you don't agree with then what (dangerous) precedents are you setting; what dialogue can exist now; what chance does anyone have of learning anything?
So YOU get to write an article about this. But you want other people to be silenced? I might hate what people say; what they write on here, but the above is NOT the answer. Not to anything. This is one of the greatest problems we face in this fight and so many others: silencing and drawing lines/building walls (when the should be bridges, Etc)
Pappalardo: Seeing as how you obviously lurk here, if you're reading this I would love to talk to you about your "article" DM me.
https://anthonypappalardo.substack.com/p/skateboarding-shames-victims/comments (https://anthonypappalardo.substack.com/p/skateboarding-shames-victims/comments)
No DM. Maybe I should just copy and paste the above on his site?
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SKATEBOARDING SHAMES VICTIMS
Empty Apologies, Empty Action, and the Defense of Toxic Masculinity.
I have to say this was absolutely awful.
Not only terribly written, but also terrible in general.
His commentary on the Slap forum is especially problematic, and totally ignores all the well-articulated posts in support of the victim that have appeared in this thread (and others on similar threads). He's discussing the same topics that have been touched upon here with much more finesse.
His post sounds entitled and arrogant to an absurd degree. Condescending not only to those he apposes but also those of us who might agree with some of the points he is trying to make.
A writer asking for filters and censorship is especially interesting and VERY worrying. If you drown out voices you don't agree with then what (dangerous) precedents are you setting; what dialogue can exist now; what chance does anyone have of learning anything?
So YOU get to write an article about this. But you want other people to be silenced? I might hate what people say; what they write on here, but the above is NOT the answer. Not to anything. This is one of the greatest problems we face in this fight and so many others: silencing and drawing lines/building walls (when the should be bridges, Etc)
Pappalardo: Seeing as how you obviously lurk here, if you're reading this I would love to talk to you about your "article" DM me.
https://anthonypappalardo.substack.com/p/skateboarding-shames-victims/comments (https://anthonypappalardo.substack.com/p/skateboarding-shames-victims/comments)
No DM. Maybe I should just copy and paste the above on his site?
Do it bro. That self righteous shitty writing gimp deserves to be called out.
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Well his point stands: is there a way to add filters that block out hate words?
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We should worry less about blocking out the things we don't agree with or find abhorrent, and spend more time trying to find ways to stop people from saying them in the first place through education and conversation.
Or, you know, just spend less time in and on these places ourselves and do more in the real world.
That works too.
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We should worry less about blocking out the things we don't agree with or find abhorrent, and spend more time trying to find ways to stop people from saying them in the first place through education and conversation.
Or, you know, just spend less time in and on these places ourselves and do more in the real world.
That works too.
Agreed, but a filter that blocks out the N word or the F word can be accomplished presumably in a day
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AP: Since we’re all at different levels of quarantine and staying at home, perhaps a massive industry video chat moderated by the organizations and advocates in skating who don’t have a voice is the first step in productive dialog and progress. Maybe?
Emily:
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Hope to see you there
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We should worry less about blocking out the things we don't agree with or find abhorrent, and spend more time trying to find ways to stop people from saying them in the first place through education and conversation.
Or, you know, just spend less time in and on these places ourselves and do more in the real world.
That works too.
Best post on the entire thread.
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We should worry less about blocking out the things we don't agree with or find abhorrent, and spend more time trying to find ways to stop people from saying them in the first place through education and conversation.
Or, you know, just spend less time in and on these places ourselves and do more in the real world.
That works too.
Agreed, but a filter that blocks out the N word or the F word can be accomplished presumably in a day
Sure. But that same filter needs to also block out a lot more words than just those two, too.
And so this is where things get complicated...
You need to cut the R-word, the B-word, the C-word, and on and on. Which is fine if that's what we want to do.
And then you have the issue of: Well, what if you're black and want to use the N-word? Or gay and the F-word?
I know this is playing devils advocate, but banning words isn't the answer. Education and conversation is. The word might be hurtful, but it's the hatred behind those words that really needs to be eradicated. And I worry that banning words means people start thinking a problem's solved when really that couldn't be further from the truth.
Our whole culture is becoming built around blocking the things out that we don't agree with or like. Or that don't interest us. And I just think that's a dangerous path.
For the same reason it's dangerous to get all your news from Fox.
Or all your books/groceries/sex toys from Amazon.
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back blocking hate speech but think ap original concern was more with general comments that questioned the victim like: play stupid games win stupid prizes which are insensitive and defend toxic masculinity but in a different context could be playful and harmless so it could be a bit tricky to effectively moderate what is offensive and what isnt i have a tommy genesis shirt (openly bisexual woc) that she made and she’s naked on it and my mom finds it offensive but i still don it errday
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We should worry less about blocking out the things we don't agree with or find abhorrent, and spend more time trying to find ways to stop people from saying them in the first place through education and conversation.
Or, you know, just spend less time in and on these places ourselves and do more in the real world.
That works too.
Agreed, but a filter that blocks out the N word or the F word can be accomplished presumably in a day
Sure. But that same filter needs to also block out a lot more words than just those two, too.
And so this is where things get complicated...
You need to cut the R-word, the B-word, the C-word, and on and on. Which is fine if that's what we want to do.
And then you have the issue of: Well, what if you're black and want to use the N-word? Or gay and the F-word?
I know this is playing devils advocate, but banning words isn't the answer. Education and conversation is. The word might be hurtful, but it's the hatred behind those words that really needs to be eradicated. And I worry that banning words means people start thinking a problem's solved when really that couldn't be further from the truth.
Our whole culture is becoming built around blocking the things out that we don't agree with or like. Or that don't interest us. And I just think that's a dangerous path.
For the same reason it's dangerous to get all your news from Fox.
Or all your books/groceries/sex toys from Amazon.
Look up the “devils advocate” meme going around. Long term education can go hand and in hand with short term steps to make this a place where hate speech doesn’t need to be seen or can thrive. I’m sure the hypothetical gays, Blacks, mentally challenged, et al posters will gladly forgo the opportunity to reclaim the hate words associated with them for the sake of making these boards less hostile, less vulnerable to troll attacks. This is not some thought police experiment and it sounds like a measure many message boards have already implemented without disaster
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What he/she said.
I get that hiding the n-word means we don’t know who’s using it in real life, causing real problems, but I’m fine with a private enterprise (SLAP for instance) blocking slurs so I can ignore that some people that skate are terrible and enjoy my time on the internet instead of getting bummed about how shitty even the people in my refuge from normal life are.
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I'm down if you guys are.
Especially if we are all fully committed to this measure.
But I also think this type of stuff deserves very serious thought at all times.
Just because there's always a lot more to this kind if thing than just the immediate problem at hand.
So I hope those of you who want to ban hate speech on here try your very best to step-in and speak up in an attempt to eradicate in the "real world" too. Which I'm sure you all do. Just saying I hate the idea of sweeping things under an online rug when exposing what's underneath seems to be a far more effective tool in eradicating it completely.
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We should worry less about blocking out the things we don't agree with or find abhorrent, and spend more time trying to find ways to stop people from saying them in the first place through education and conversation.
Or, you know, just spend less time in and on these places ourselves and do more in the real world.
That works too.
Agreed, but a filter that blocks out the N word or the F word can be accomplished presumably in a day
Sure. But that same filter needs to also block out a lot more words than just those two, too.
And so this is where things get complicated...
You need to cut the R-word, the B-word, the C-word, and on and on. Which is fine if that's what we want to do.
And then you have the issue of: Well, what if you're black and want to use the N-word? Or gay and the F-word?
I know this is playing devils advocate, but banning words isn't the answer. Education and conversation is. The word might be hurtful, but it's the hatred behind those words that really needs to be eradicated. And I worry that banning words means people start thinking a problem's solved when really that couldn't be further from the truth.
Our whole culture is becoming built around blocking the things out that we don't agree with or like. Or that don't interest us. And I just think that's a dangerous path.
For the same reason it's dangerous to get all your news from Fox.
Or all your books/groceries/sex toys from Amazon.
Look up the “devils advocate” meme going around. Long term education can go hand and in hand with short term steps to make this a place where hate speech doesn’t need to be seen or can thrive. I’m sure the hypothetical gays, Blacks, mentally challenged, et al posters will gladly forgo the opportunity to reclaim the hate words associated with them for the sake of making these boards less hostile, less vulnerable to troll attacks. This is not some thought police experiment and it sounds like a measure many message boards have already implemented without disaster
Fully back this tho. For sure.
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back blocking hate speech but think ap original concern was more with general comments that questioned the victim like: play stupid games win stupid prizes which are insensitive and defend toxic masculinity but in a different context could be playful and harmless so it could be a bit tricky to effectively moderate what is offensive and what isnt i have a tommy genesis shirt (openly bisexual woc) that she made and she’s naked on it and my mom finds it offensive but i still don it errday
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We should worry less about blocking out the things we don't agree with or find abhorrent, and spend more time trying to find ways to stop people from saying them in the first place through education and conversation.
Or, you know, just spend less time in and on these places ourselves and do more in the real world.
That works too.
Agreed, but a filter that blocks out the N word or the F word can be accomplished presumably in a day
Sure. But that same filter needs to also block out a lot more words than just those two, too.
And so this is where things get complicated...
You need to cut the R-word, the B-word, the C-word, and on and on. Which is fine if that's what we want to do.
And then you have the issue of: Well, what if you're black and want to use the N-word? Or gay and the F-word?
I know this is playing devils advocate, but banning words isn't the answer. Education and conversation is. The word might be hurtful, but it's the hatred behind those words that really needs to be eradicated. And I worry that banning words means people start thinking a problem's solved when really that couldn't be further from the truth.
Our whole culture is becoming built around blocking the things out that we don't agree with or like. Or that don't interest us. And I just think that's a dangerous path.
For the same reason it's dangerous to get all your news from Fox.
Or all your books/groceries/sex toys from Amazon.
Look up the “devils advocate” meme going around. Long term education can go hand and in hand with short term steps to make this a place where hate speech doesn’t need to be seen or can thrive. I’m sure the hypothetical gays, Blacks, mentally challenged, et al posters will gladly forgo the opportunity to reclaim the hate words associated with them for the sake of making these boards less hostile, less vulnerable to troll attacks. This is not some thought police experiment and it sounds like a measure many message boards have already implemented without disaster
Fully back this tho. For sure.
From a non-anglo-saxon point of view I follow this conversation about cancel culture with great interest. However, I cannot understand why some people involved in this discussion really believe that blocking terms and replacing them by abbreviations like the n-word will reduce rascism and hate speech. I don´t think peoples minds work like that because whenever someone uses a proxy of an infamous word the meaning gets transferred anyway.
To really make a difference it is necessary to change the believe systems of the people. Banning words is like brushing over and old car with new paint. It looks better but it still doesn´t work because it is the inside that counts.
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We should worry less about blocking out the things we don't agree with or find abhorrent, and spend more time trying to find ways to stop people from saying them in the first place through education and conversation.
Or, you know, just spend less time in and on these places ourselves and do more in the real world.
That works too.
Agreed, but a filter that blocks out the N word or the F word can be accomplished presumably in a day
Sure. But that same filter needs to also block out a lot more words than just those two, too.
And so this is where things get complicated...
You need to cut the R-word, the B-word, the C-word, and on and on. Which is fine if that's what we want to do.
And then you have the issue of: Well, what if you're black and want to use the N-word? Or gay and the F-word?
I know this is playing devils advocate, but banning words isn't the answer. Education and conversation is. The word might be hurtful, but it's the hatred behind those words that really needs to be eradicated. And I worry that banning words means people start thinking a problem's solved when really that couldn't be further from the truth.
Our whole culture is becoming built around blocking the things out that we don't agree with or like. Or that don't interest us. And I just think that's a dangerous path.
For the same reason it's dangerous to get all your news from Fox.
Or all your books/groceries/sex toys from Amazon.
Look up the “devils advocate” meme going around. Long term education can go hand and in hand with short term steps to make this a place where hate speech doesn’t need to be seen or can thrive. I’m sure the hypothetical gays, Blacks, mentally challenged, et al posters will gladly forgo the opportunity to reclaim the hate words associated with them for the sake of making these boards less hostile, less vulnerable to troll attacks. This is not some thought police experiment and it sounds like a measure many message boards have already implemented without disaster
Fully back this tho. For sure.
From a non-anglo-saxon point of view I follow this conversation about cancel culture with great interest. However, I cannot understand why some people involved in this discussion really believe that blocking terms and replacing them by abbreviations like the n-word will reduce rascism and hate speech. I don´t think peoples minds work like that because whenever someone uses a proxy of an infamous word the meaning gets transferred anyway.
To really make a difference it is necessary to change the believe systems of the people. Banning words is like brushing over and old car with new paint. It looks better but it still doesn´t work because it is the inside that counts.
That’s not really what I or anyone means. AP accused SLAP of doing nothing to regulate the hate speech on these boards and he cited a step many message boards take to at least cut back on the most flagrant examples. Some troll poster very recently just dropped a bit of that hate speech in one of the most beloved poster’s inboxes. Cutting that shit back is just a tiny, achievable goal to make this a better place.
Long term societal change is something that will need to be worked for daily, weekly, monthly, yearly and if we can take steps to eliminate the white noise from the trolls maybe those feeling marginalized will start to join the boards and share their views, perspectives, etc which will engender empathy and allow us to all come together as people whose love of skateboarding far outweighs our abilities on them.
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We should worry less about blocking out the things we don't agree with or find abhorrent, and spend more time trying to find ways to stop people from saying them in the first place through education and conversation.
Or, you know, just spend less time in and on these places ourselves and do more in the real world.
That works too.
Agreed, but a filter that blocks out the N word or the F word can be accomplished presumably in a day
Sure. But that same filter needs to also block out a lot more words than just those two, too.
And so this is where things get complicated...
You need to cut the R-word, the B-word, the C-word, and on and on. Which is fine if that's what we want to do.
And then you have the issue of: Well, what if you're black and want to use the N-word? Or gay and the F-word?
I know this is playing devils advocate, but banning words isn't the answer. Education and conversation is. The word might be hurtful, but it's the hatred behind those words that really needs to be eradicated. And I worry that banning words means people start thinking a problem's solved when really that couldn't be further from the truth.
Our whole culture is becoming built around blocking the things out that we don't agree with or like. Or that don't interest us. And I just think that's a dangerous path.
For the same reason it's dangerous to get all your news from Fox.
Or all your books/groceries/sex toys from Amazon.
Look up the “devils advocate” meme going around. Long term education can go hand and in hand with short term steps to make this a place where hate speech doesn’t need to be seen or can thrive. I’m sure the hypothetical gays, Blacks, mentally challenged, et al posters will gladly forgo the opportunity to reclaim the hate words associated with them for the sake of making these boards less hostile, less vulnerable to troll attacks. This is not some thought police experiment and it sounds like a measure many message boards have already implemented without disaster
Fully back this tho. For sure.
From a non-anglo-saxon point of view I follow this conversation about cancel culture with great interest. However, I cannot understand why some people involved in this discussion really believe that blocking terms and replacing them by abbreviations like the n-word will reduce rascism and hate speech. I don´t think peoples minds work like that because whenever someone uses a proxy of an infamous word the meaning gets transferred anyway.
To really make a difference it is necessary to change the believe systems of the people. Banning words is like brushing over and old car with new paint. It looks better but it still doesn´t work because it is the inside that counts.
That’s not really what I or anyone means. AP accused SLAP of doing nothing to regulate the hate speech on these boards and he cited a step many message boards take to at least cut back on the most flagrant examples. Some troll poster very recently just dropped a bit of that hate speech in one of the most beloved poster’s inboxes. Cutting that shit back is just a tiny, achievable goal to make this a better place.
Long term societal change is something that will need to be worked for daily, weekly, monthly, yearly and if we can take steps to eliminate the white noise from the trolls maybe those feeling marginalized will start to join the boards and share their views, perspectives, etc which will engender empathy and allow us to all come together as people whose love of skateboarding far outweighs our abilities on them.
Thanks for the explanation. Not sure that it works though. People who want to spread hate will eventually find a way to do so. Therefore, instead of filtering out certain terms, I´d rather see all the silent readers on the forum eventually raise their voice to show some solidarity and call out racist or sexist behaviour when it happens. It should be our goal to actually prove that little internet trolls are a small group of idiots who act bigger than they are.
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This topic is still floating around eh?
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This topic is still floating around eh?
It’s like herpes, it’ll never go away.
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Thanks for the explanation. Not sure that it works though. People who want to spread hate will eventually find a way to do so. Therefore, instead of filtering out certain terms, I´d rather see all the silent readers on the forum eventually raise their voice to show some solidarity and call out racist or sexist behaviour when it happens. It should be our goal to actually prove that little internet trolls are a small group of idiots who act bigger than they are.
no offense dude, but you seem to haven't been on here the last few weeks/months or at least missed the threads and discussions about all this stuff. and to not derail the thread about johan stuckey being a sexual predator and put your nice and very deep suggestions of how you feel protest against racism should be like so it doesn't offend your white middle class sensibilities. i'm sure all the racist trolls that registered here just to shitpost will be super moved to tears and overthink their whole worldview if half slap quotes "i don't stand with racists..." one after another or some corny shit like that.
next thing you tell us that you support protests. but that looting is bad and that you thus don't really support protests. but that you support protest, basically, but you think violence is bad. maybe you wish for non violent protest. whatever.
the scenario with all those wallflowers coming into their own on here to "speak up against racism" is cute, if i was a troll, i'd have a field day. i mean how pathetic is that. my way of dealing with these people is to annoy the fuck outta them and take their space. shitpost back. show them how stupid they are and desecrate their personalities in public. because fuck em. they don't earn a civilized response even when they fake civility. learn to see what is bait, attack full force when they show their true side. because fuck racists.
if slap wants to be an ally against racism, they can give people the option to not have to read slurs that target them. again, optionally. what is so bad about this? free speech is still intact since posts get published for everyone to read and only get blacked out by choice of reader. racists will still be racists but hopefully more moderately if they even try to get their point across, a person who wishes not to bother with them doesn't have to read their shit and be bummed. win/win.
also, constructive criticism is highly appreciated, here is the discussion about current changes to slap. you can leave all your ideas here and the mods will take them into consideration i guess:
http://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=111813.0
now back to the great cancellation plz.
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This topic is still floating around eh?
It’s like herpes, it’ll never go away.
Just keeps flaring up
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Thanks for the explanation. Not sure that it works though. People who want to spread hate will eventually find a way to do so. Therefore, instead of filtering out certain terms, I´d rather see all the silent readers on the forum eventually raise their voice to show some solidarity and call out racist or sexist behaviour when it happens. It should be our goal to actually prove that little internet trolls are a small group of idiots who act bigger than they are.
no offense dude, but you seem to haven't been on here the last few weeks/months or at least missed the threads and discussions about all this stuff. and to not derail the thread about johan stuckey being a sexual predator and put your nice and very deep suggestions of how you feel protest against racism should be like so it doesn't offend your white middle class sensibilities. i'm sure all the racist trolls that registered here just to shitpost will be super moved to tears and overthink their whole worldview if half slap quotes "i don't stand with racists..." one after another or some corny shit like that.
next thing you tell us that you support protests. but that looting is bad and that you thus don't really support protests. but that you support protest, basically, but you think violence is bad. maybe you wish for non violent protest. whatever.
the scenario with all those wallflowers coming into their own on here to "speak up against racism" is cute, if i was a troll, i'd have a field day. i mean how pathetic is that. my way of dealing with these people is to annoy the fuck outta them and take their space. shitpost back. show them how stupid they are and desecrate their personalities in public. because fuck em. they don't earn a civilized response even when they fake civility. learn to see what is bait, attack full force when they show their true side. because fuck racists.
if slap wants to be an ally against racism, they can give people the option to not have to read slurs that target them. again, optionally. what is so bad about this? free speech is still intact since posts get published for everyone to read and only get blacked out by choice of reader. racists will still be racists but hopefully more moderately if they even try to get their point across, a person who wishes not to bother with them doesn't have to read their shit and be bummed. win/win.
also, constructive criticism is highly appreciated, here is the discussion about current changes to slap. you can leave all your ideas here and the mods will take them into consideration i guess:
http://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=111813.0
now back to the great cancellation plz.
Lol, following this thread I thought it was already an established fact that Johan Stuckey is a sexual predator. He basically confessed. Time to close the thread then, huh?
Also no offense to you, but I don´t think you get how trolling works. You getting worked up and trying to annoy the fuck out of me and take "my space", whatever the fuck that means, is the exactly what would get me a boner if I was a troll.
You are not gonna desecrate an anonymous person in public because anonymity is the very opposite of publicity and publicity is needed to shame somebody. You can´t shame a person in public if nobody knows that person.
Man, I really hope that your problem solving strategies in the real world differ from those which you apply on the internet.
p.s. Thank you for pointing out the other thread. I like the hiding-option. It is a nice idea.
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This topic is still floating around eh?
It’s like herpes, it’ll never go away.
Just keeps flaring up
put sum abreva on that shit.
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yo what the fuck kinda alternate reality is this shit
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8421701/amp/Personal-trainer-45-sues-woman-130-000-catching-cold-sore-kissing-date.html
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yo what the fuck kinda alternate reality is this shit
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8421701/amp/Personal-trainer-45-sues-woman-130-000-catching-cold-sore-kissing-date.html
What do you mean?
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yo what the fuck kinda alternate reality is this shit
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8421701/amp/Personal-trainer-45-sues-woman-130-000-catching-cold-sore-kissing-date.html
What do you mean?
I assume he means something like ‘in my day no one would ever get sued over spreading a cold sore’
To which I’d reply ‘maybe suing isn’t the best way to get justice, but it’s nice to see that people are being held to a slightly higher standard about shit nowadays’
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yo what the fuck kinda alternate reality is this shit
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8421701/amp/Personal-trainer-45-sues-woman-130-000-catching-cold-sore-kissing-date.html
What do you mean?
I assume he means something like ‘in my day no one would ever get sued over spreading a cold sore’
To which I’d reply ‘maybe suing isn’t the best way to get justice, but it’s nice to see that people are being held to a slightly higher standard about shit nowadays’
Civil suits are often how victims get justice when the law fails (see the Goldman family and OJ)
Watching I’ll Be Gone In the Dark blew my mind with how 70s attitudes towards rape was. Aside from the victim blaming, I believe they said it was a 30 day offense, if that.
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yo what the fuck kinda alternate reality is this shit
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8421701/amp/Personal-trainer-45-sues-woman-130-000-catching-cold-sore-kissing-date.html
What do you mean?
I assume he means something like ‘in my day no one would ever get sued over spreading a cold sore’
To which I’d reply ‘maybe suing isn’t the best way to get justice, but it’s nice to see that people are being held to a slightly higher standard about shit nowadays’
Civil suits are often how victims get justice when the law fails (see the Goldman family and OJ)
Watching I’ll Be Gone In the Dark blew my mind with how 70s attitudes towards rape was. Aside from the victim blaming, I believe they said it was a 30 day offense, if that.
i just thought it was funny that some dude on the other side of the world who looks just like johan (i guess i was reaching with this comparison) was on the receiving end of it this time .. ie alternate reality
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yo what the fuck kinda alternate reality is this shit
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8421701/amp/Personal-trainer-45-sues-woman-130-000-catching-cold-sore-kissing-date.html
What do you mean?
I assume he means something like ‘in my day no one would ever get sued over spreading a cold sore’
To which I’d reply ‘maybe suing isn’t the best way to get justice, but it’s nice to see that people are being held to a slightly higher standard about shit nowadays’
Civil suits are often how victims get justice when the law fails (see the Goldman family and OJ)
Watching I’ll Be Gone In the Dark blew my mind with how 70s attitudes towards rape was. Aside from the victim blaming, I believe they said it was a 30 day offense, if that.
i just thought it was funny that some dude on the other side of the world who looks just like johan (i guess i was reaching with this comparison) was on the receiving end of it this time .. ie alternate reality
My
Mistake then, sorry. I assumed too much in my reading
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Man, I really hope that your problem solving strategies in the real world differ from those which you apply on the internet.
p.s. Thank you for pointing out the other thread. I like the hiding-option. It is a nice idea.
no, i was talking about the internet or slap specifically pretty much and how i come to handle it, but yeah, no offense. i may have mistaken or oversimplified stuff you were meant to say.
it wasn't even meant so much as to antagonize you personally, but i get that it came off that way. fair points all around in your reply though.
EDIT: fixed my shit quoting
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its just herpes alot of people have it different kinds too but hey at least give a heads up that was pretty low
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wknd silent on ig for over a week now...
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wknd silent on ig for over a week now...
Reckon they figure on just letting the whole thing blow over, hoping we’ll forget about it in a couple weeks?
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wknd silent on ig for over a week now...
I'm sure that will happen eventually
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We should worry less about blocking out the things we don't agree with or find abhorrent, and spend more time trying to find ways to stop people from saying them in the first place through education and conversation.
Or, you know, just spend less time in and on these places ourselves and do more in the real world.
That works too.
Agreed, but a filter that blocks out the N word or the F word can be accomplished presumably in a day
Sure. But that same filter needs to also block out a lot more words than just those two, too.
And so this is where things get complicated...
You need to cut the R-word, the B-word, the C-word, and on and on. Which is fine if that's what we want to do.
And then you have the issue of: Well, what if you're black and want to use the N-word? Or gay and the F-word?
I know this is playing devils advocate, but banning words isn't the answer. Education and conversation is. The word might be hurtful, but it's the hatred behind those words that really needs to be eradicated. And I worry that banning words means people start thinking a problem's solved when really that couldn't be further from the truth.
Our whole culture is becoming built around blocking the things out that we don't agree with or like. Or that don't interest us. And I just think that's a dangerous path.
For the same reason it's dangerous to get all your news from Fox.
Or all your books/groceries/sex toys from Amazon.
Look up the “devils advocate” meme going around. Long term education can go hand and in hand with short term steps to make this a place where hate speech doesn’t need to be seen or can thrive. I’m sure the hypothetical gays, Blacks, mentally challenged, et al posters will gladly forgo the opportunity to reclaim the hate words associated with them for the sake of making these boards less hostile, less vulnerable to troll attacks. This is not some thought police experiment and it sounds like a measure many message boards have already implemented without disaster
Fully back this tho. For sure.
From a non-anglo-saxon point of view I follow this conversation about cancel culture with great interest. However, I cannot understand why some people involved in this discussion really believe that blocking terms and replacing them by abbreviations like the n-word will reduce rascism and hate speech. I don´t think peoples minds work like that because whenever someone uses a proxy of an infamous word the meaning gets transferred anyway.
To really make a difference it is necessary to change the believe systems of the people. Banning words is like brushing over and old car with new paint. It looks better but it still doesn´t work because it is the inside that counts.
That’s not really what I or anyone means. AP accused SLAP of doing nothing to regulate the hate speech on these boards and he cited a step many message boards take to at least cut back on the most flagrant examples. Some troll poster very recently just dropped a bit of that hate speech in one of the most beloved poster’s inboxes. Cutting that shit back is just a tiny, achievable goal to make this a better place.
Long term societal change is something that will need to be worked for daily, weekly, monthly, yearly and if we can take steps to eliminate the white noise from the trolls maybe those feeling marginalized will start to join the boards and share their views, perspectives, etc which will engender empathy and allow us to all come together as people whose love of skateboarding far outweighs our abilities on them.
Thanks for the explanation. Not sure that it works though. People who want to spread hate will eventually find a way to do so. Therefore, instead of filtering out certain terms, I´d rather see all the silent readers on the forum eventually raise their voice to show some solidarity and call out racist or sexist behaviour when it happens. It should be our goal to actually prove that little internet trolls are a small group of idiots who act bigger than they are.
Not gonna lie, I’m not really in favor of policing speech. I completely back educating people about why their train of thought is flawed & showing them a better way, and it’s hard to determine who needs that level of consideration if they’re ostensibly silenced. My fear is that censorship pushes the ability to address these issues outside of the realm of scrutiny, where it has the potential to fester in the darkness outside the realm of public acknowledgement. Look at the racists and neo-Nazi’s who’ve been purged from social media, they’ve been forced to take up sharing their thoughts and feelings in the shadows of an app like Telegram, where everything they say is negatively compounded & reinforced without the ability for outside intervention to help them broaden their views & help the world at large.
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We should worry less about blocking out the things we don't agree with or find abhorrent, and spend more time trying to find ways to stop people from saying them in the first place through education and conversation.
Or, you know, just spend less time in and on these places ourselves and do more in the real world.
That works too.
Agreed, but a filter that blocks out the N word or the F word can be accomplished presumably in a day
Sure. But that same filter needs to also block out a lot more words than just those two, too.
And so this is where things get complicated...
You need to cut the R-word, the B-word, the C-word, and on and on. Which is fine if that's what we want to do.
And then you have the issue of: Well, what if you're black and want to use the N-word? Or gay and the F-word?
I know this is playing devils advocate, but banning words isn't the answer. Education and conversation is. The word might be hurtful, but it's the hatred behind those words that really needs to be eradicated. And I worry that banning words means people start thinking a problem's solved when really that couldn't be further from the truth.
Our whole culture is becoming built around blocking the things out that we don't agree with or like. Or that don't interest us. And I just think that's a dangerous path.
For the same reason it's dangerous to get all your news from Fox.
Or all your books/groceries/sex toys from Amazon.
Look up the “devils advocate” meme going around. Long term education can go hand and in hand with short term steps to make this a place where hate speech doesn’t need to be seen or can thrive. I’m sure the hypothetical gays, Blacks, mentally challenged, et al posters will gladly forgo the opportunity to reclaim the hate words associated with them for the sake of making these boards less hostile, less vulnerable to troll attacks. This is not some thought police experiment and it sounds like a measure many message boards have already implemented without disaster
Fully back this tho. For sure.
From a non-anglo-saxon point of view I follow this conversation about cancel culture with great interest. However, I cannot understand why some people involved in this discussion really believe that blocking terms and replacing them by abbreviations like the n-word will reduce rascism and hate speech. I don´t think peoples minds work like that because whenever someone uses a proxy of an infamous word the meaning gets transferred anyway.
To really make a difference it is necessary to change the believe systems of the people. Banning words is like brushing over and old car with new paint. It looks better but it still doesn´t work because it is the inside that counts.
That’s not really what I or anyone means. AP accused SLAP of doing nothing to regulate the hate speech on these boards and he cited a step many message boards take to at least cut back on the most flagrant examples. Some troll poster very recently just dropped a bit of that hate speech in one of the most beloved poster’s inboxes. Cutting that shit back is just a tiny, achievable goal to make this a better place.
Long term societal change is something that will need to be worked for daily, weekly, monthly, yearly and if we can take steps to eliminate the white noise from the trolls maybe those feeling marginalized will start to join the boards and share their views, perspectives, etc which will engender empathy and allow us to all come together as people whose love of skateboarding far outweighs our abilities on them.
Thanks for the explanation. Not sure that it works though. People who want to spread hate will eventually find a way to do so. Therefore, instead of filtering out certain terms, I´d rather see all the silent readers on the forum eventually raise their voice to show some solidarity and call out racist or sexist behaviour when it happens. It should be our goal to actually prove that little internet trolls are a small group of idiots who act bigger than they are.
Not gonna lie, I’m not really in favor of policing speech. I completely back educating people about why their train of thought is flawed & showing them a better way, and it’s hard to determine who needs that level of consideration if they’re ostensibly silenced. My fear is that censorship pushes the ability to address these issues outside of the realm of scrutiny, where it has the potential to fester in the darkness outside the realm of public acknowledgement. Look at the racists and neo-Nazi’s who’ve been purged from social media, they’ve been forced to take up sharing their thoughts and feelings in the shadows of an app like Telegram, where everything they say is negatively compounded & reinforced without the ability for outside intervention to help them broaden their views & help the world at large.
Dude its not policing speech its not permitting certain words...its not like the collective of SLAP is a intellectual forum analyzing Mark Twain
as an old black dude I see no reason for its use in skateboard forum...even when I talk to other black people about it they often site it being a term of positivity, but in contrast most time its used is to put someone down
and being a skater from the mid 90s we used gay slurs immaturely, by the time i graduate high school i stopped using it...I think websites like people should mature...unless your 4chan
Edit: if you go to popular black forum like Boxden when you type in the nword you get *****
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We should worry less about blocking out the things we don't agree with or find abhorrent, and spend more time trying to find ways to stop people from saying them in the first place through education and conversation.
Or, you know, just spend less time in and on these places ourselves and do more in the real world.
That works too.
Agreed, but a filter that blocks out the N word or the F word can be accomplished presumably in a day
Sure. But that same filter needs to also block out a lot more words than just those two, too.
And so this is where things get complicated...
You need to cut the R-word, the B-word, the C-word, and on and on. Which is fine if that's what we want to do.
And then you have the issue of: Well, what if you're black and want to use the N-word? Or gay and the F-word?
I know this is playing devils advocate, but banning words isn't the answer. Education and conversation is. The word might be hurtful, but it's the hatred behind those words that really needs to be eradicated. And I worry that banning words means people start thinking a problem's solved when really that couldn't be further from the truth.
Our whole culture is becoming built around blocking the things out that we don't agree with or like. Or that don't interest us. And I just think that's a dangerous path.
For the same reason it's dangerous to get all your news from Fox.
Or all your books/groceries/sex toys from Amazon.
Look up the “devils advocate” meme going around. Long term education can go hand and in hand with short term steps to make this a place where hate speech doesn’t need to be seen or can thrive. I’m sure the hypothetical gays, Blacks, mentally challenged, et al posters will gladly forgo the opportunity to reclaim the hate words associated with them for the sake of making these boards less hostile, less vulnerable to troll attacks. This is not some thought police experiment and it sounds like a measure many message boards have already implemented without disaster
Fully back this tho. For sure.
From a non-anglo-saxon point of view I follow this conversation about cancel culture with great interest. However, I cannot understand why some people involved in this discussion really believe that blocking terms and replacing them by abbreviations like the n-word will reduce rascism and hate speech. I don´t think peoples minds work like that because whenever someone uses a proxy of an infamous word the meaning gets transferred anyway.
To really make a difference it is necessary to change the believe systems of the people. Banning words is like brushing over and old car with new paint. It looks better but it still doesn´t work because it is the inside that counts.
That’s not really what I or anyone means. AP accused SLAP of doing nothing to regulate the hate speech on these boards and he cited a step many message boards take to at least cut back on the most flagrant examples. Some troll poster very recently just dropped a bit of that hate speech in one of the most beloved poster’s inboxes. Cutting that shit back is just a tiny, achievable goal to make this a better place.
Long term societal change is something that will need to be worked for daily, weekly, monthly, yearly and if we can take steps to eliminate the white noise from the trolls maybe those feeling marginalized will start to join the boards and share their views, perspectives, etc which will engender empathy and allow us to all come together as people whose love of skateboarding far outweighs our abilities on them.
Thanks for the explanation. Not sure that it works though. People who want to spread hate will eventually find a way to do so. Therefore, instead of filtering out certain terms, I´d rather see all the silent readers on the forum eventually raise their voice to show some solidarity and call out racist or sexist behaviour when it happens. It should be our goal to actually prove that little internet trolls are a small group of idiots who act bigger than they are.
Not gonna lie, I’m not really in favor of policing speech. I completely back educating people about why their train of thought is flawed & showing them a better way, and it’s hard to determine who needs that level of consideration if they’re ostensibly silenced. My fear is that censorship pushes the ability to address these issues outside of the realm of scrutiny, where it has the potential to fester in the darkness outside the realm of public acknowledgement. Look at the racists and neo-Nazi’s who’ve been purged from social media, they’ve been forced to take up sharing their thoughts and feelings in the shadows of an app like Telegram, where everything they say is negatively compounded & reinforced without the ability for outside intervention to help them broaden their views & help the world at large.
As a Journalism/ADPR graduate, I also think policing speech is a slippery slope towards full-blown censorship and as you said these people will find ways to spread their hate. They will just do it in their safe little echo chambers where they won't be called on their bullshit and in fact it might even make them feel vindicated since everyone is agreeing with them.
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We should worry less about blocking out the things we don't agree with or find abhorrent, and spend more time trying to find ways to stop people from saying them in the first place through education and conversation.
Or, you know, just spend less time in and on these places ourselves and do more in the real world.
That works too.
Agreed, but a filter that blocks out the N word or the F word can be accomplished presumably in a day
Sure. But that same filter needs to also block out a lot more words than just those two, too.
And so this is where things get complicated...
You need to cut the R-word, the B-word, the C-word, and on and on. Which is fine if that's what we want to do.
And then you have the issue of: Well, what if you're black and want to use the N-word? Or gay and the F-word?
I know this is playing devils advocate, but banning words isn't the answer. Education and conversation is. The word might be hurtful, but it's the hatred behind those words that really needs to be eradicated. And I worry that banning words means people start thinking a problem's solved when really that couldn't be further from the truth.
Our whole culture is becoming built around blocking the things out that we don't agree with or like. Or that don't interest us. And I just think that's a dangerous path.
For the same reason it's dangerous to get all your news from Fox.
Or all your books/groceries/sex toys from Amazon.
Look up the “devils advocate” meme going around. Long term education can go hand and in hand with short term steps to make this a place where hate speech doesn’t need to be seen or can thrive. I’m sure the hypothetical gays, Blacks, mentally challenged, et al posters will gladly forgo the opportunity to reclaim the hate words associated with them for the sake of making these boards less hostile, less vulnerable to troll attacks. This is not some thought police experiment and it sounds like a measure many message boards have already implemented without disaster
Fully back this tho. For sure.
From a non-anglo-saxon point of view I follow this conversation about cancel culture with great interest. However, I cannot understand why some people involved in this discussion really believe that blocking terms and replacing them by abbreviations like the n-word will reduce rascism and hate speech. I don´t think peoples minds work like that because whenever someone uses a proxy of an infamous word the meaning gets transferred anyway.
To really make a difference it is necessary to change the believe systems of the people. Banning words is like brushing over and old car with new paint. It looks better but it still doesn´t work because it is the inside that counts.
That’s not really what I or anyone means. AP accused SLAP of doing nothing to regulate the hate speech on these boards and he cited a step many message boards take to at least cut back on the most flagrant examples. Some troll poster very recently just dropped a bit of that hate speech in one of the most beloved poster’s inboxes. Cutting that shit back is just a tiny, achievable goal to make this a better place.
Long term societal change is something that will need to be worked for daily, weekly, monthly, yearly and if we can take steps to eliminate the white noise from the trolls maybe those feeling marginalized will start to join the boards and share their views, perspectives, etc which will engender empathy and allow us to all come together as people whose love of skateboarding far outweighs our abilities on them.
Thanks for the explanation. Not sure that it works though. People who want to spread hate will eventually find a way to do so. Therefore, instead of filtering out certain terms, I´d rather see all the silent readers on the forum eventually raise their voice to show some solidarity and call out racist or sexist behaviour when it happens. It should be our goal to actually prove that little internet trolls are a small group of idiots who act bigger than they are.
Not gonna lie, I’m not really in favor of policing speech. I completely back educating people about why their train of thought is flawed & showing them a better way, and it’s hard to determine who needs that level of consideration if they’re ostensibly silenced. My fear is that censorship pushes the ability to address these issues outside of the realm of scrutiny, where it has the potential to fester in the darkness outside the realm of public acknowledgement. Look at the racists and neo-Nazi’s who’ve been purged from social media, they’ve been forced to take up sharing their thoughts and feelings in the shadows of an app like Telegram, where everything they say is negatively compounded & reinforced without the ability for outside intervention to help them broaden their views & help the world at large.
Dude its not policing speech its not permitting certain words...its not like the collective of SLAP is a intellectual forum analyzing Mark Twain
as an old black dude I see no reason for its use in skateboard forum...even when I talk to other black people about it they often site it being a term of positivity, but in contrast most time its used is to put someone down
and being a skater from the mid 90s we used gay slurs immaturely, by the time i graduate high school i stopped using it...I think websites like people should mature...unless your 4chan
Edit: if you go to popular black forum like Boxden when you type in the nword you get *****
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We should worry less about blocking out the things we don't agree with or find abhorrent, and spend more time trying to find ways to stop people from saying them in the first place through education and conversation.
Or, you know, just spend less time in and on these places ourselves and do more in the real world.
That works too.
Agreed, but a filter that blocks out the N word or the F word can be accomplished presumably in a day
Sure. But that same filter needs to also block out a lot more words than just those two, too.
And so this is where things get complicated...
You need to cut the R-word, the B-word, the C-word, and on and on. Which is fine if that's what we want to do.
And then you have the issue of: Well, what if you're black and want to use the N-word? Or gay and the F-word?
I know this is playing devils advocate, but banning words isn't the answer. Education and conversation is. The word might be hurtful, but it's the hatred behind those words that really needs to be eradicated. And I worry that banning words means people start thinking a problem's solved when really that couldn't be further from the truth.
Our whole culture is becoming built around blocking the things out that we don't agree with or like. Or that don't interest us. And I just think that's a dangerous path.
For the same reason it's dangerous to get all your news from Fox.
Or all your books/groceries/sex toys from Amazon.
Look up the “devils advocate” meme going around. Long term education can go hand and in hand with short term steps to make this a place where hate speech doesn’t need to be seen or can thrive. I’m sure the hypothetical gays, Blacks, mentally challenged, et al posters will gladly forgo the opportunity to reclaim the hate words associated with them for the sake of making these boards less hostile, less vulnerable to troll attacks. This is not some thought police experiment and it sounds like a measure many message boards have already implemented without disaster
Fully back this tho. For sure.
From a non-anglo-saxon point of view I follow this conversation about cancel culture with great interest. However, I cannot understand why some people involved in this discussion really believe that blocking terms and replacing them by abbreviations like the n-word will reduce rascism and hate speech. I don´t think peoples minds work like that because whenever someone uses a proxy of an infamous word the meaning gets transferred anyway.
To really make a difference it is necessary to change the believe systems of the people. Banning words is like brushing over and old car with new paint. It looks better but it still doesn´t work because it is the inside that counts.
That’s not really what I or anyone means. AP accused SLAP of doing nothing to regulate the hate speech on these boards and he cited a step many message boards take to at least cut back on the most flagrant examples. Some troll poster very recently just dropped a bit of that hate speech in one of the most beloved poster’s inboxes. Cutting that shit back is just a tiny, achievable goal to make this a better place.
Long term societal change is something that will need to be worked for daily, weekly, monthly, yearly and if we can take steps to eliminate the white noise from the trolls maybe those feeling marginalized will start to join the boards and share their views, perspectives, etc which will engender empathy and allow us to all come together as people whose love of skateboarding far outweighs our abilities on them.
Thanks for the explanation. Not sure that it works though. People who want to spread hate will eventually find a way to do so. Therefore, instead of filtering out certain terms, I´d rather see all the silent readers on the forum eventually raise their voice to show some solidarity and call out racist or sexist behaviour when it happens. It should be our goal to actually prove that little internet trolls are a small group of idiots who act bigger than they are.
Not gonna lie, I’m not really in favor of policing speech. I completely back educating people about why their train of thought is flawed & showing them a better way, and it’s hard to determine who needs that level of consideration if they’re ostensibly silenced. My fear is that censorship pushes the ability to address these issues outside of the realm of scrutiny, where it has the potential to fester in the darkness outside the realm of public acknowledgement. Look at the racists and neo-Nazi’s who’ve been purged from social media, they’ve been forced to take up sharing their thoughts and feelings in the shadows of an app like Telegram, where everything they say is negatively compounded & reinforced without the ability for outside intervention to help them broaden their views & help the world at large.
As a Journalism/ADPR graduate, I also think policing speech is a slippery slope towards full-blown censorship and as you said these people will find ways to spread their hate. They will just do it in their safe little echo chambers where they won't be called on their bullshit and in fact it might even make them feel vindicated since everyone is agreeing with them.
Some of the dumbest fucks I know graduated from quality J programs, you prefacing your ignorant viewpoint with the fact that that was your major does nothing for your argument lmao.
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We should worry less about blocking out the things we don't agree with or find abhorrent, and spend more time trying to find ways to stop people from saying them in the first place through education and conversation.
Or, you know, just spend less time in and on these places ourselves and do more in the real world.
That works too.
Agreed, but a filter that blocks out the N word or the F word can be accomplished presumably in a day
Sure. But that same filter needs to also block out a lot more words than just those two, too.
And so this is where things get complicated...
You need to cut the R-word, the B-word, the C-word, and on and on. Which is fine if that's what we want to do.
And then you have the issue of: Well, what if you're black and want to use the N-word? Or gay and the F-word?
I know this is playing devils advocate, but banning words isn't the answer. Education and conversation is. The word might be hurtful, but it's the hatred behind those words that really needs to be eradicated. And I worry that banning words means people start thinking a problem's solved when really that couldn't be further from the truth.
Our whole culture is becoming built around blocking the things out that we don't agree with or like. Or that don't interest us. And I just think that's a dangerous path.
For the same reason it's dangerous to get all your news from Fox.
Or all your books/groceries/sex toys from Amazon.
Look up the “devils advocate” meme going around. Long term education can go hand and in hand with short term steps to make this a place where hate speech doesn’t need to be seen or can thrive. I’m sure the hypothetical gays, Blacks, mentally challenged, et al posters will gladly forgo the opportunity to reclaim the hate words associated with them for the sake of making these boards less hostile, less vulnerable to troll attacks. This is not some thought police experiment and it sounds like a measure many message boards have already implemented without disaster
Fully back this tho. For sure.
From a non-anglo-saxon point of view I follow this conversation about cancel culture with great interest. However, I cannot understand why some people involved in this discussion really believe that blocking terms and replacing them by abbreviations like the n-word will reduce rascism and hate speech. I don´t think peoples minds work like that because whenever someone uses a proxy of an infamous word the meaning gets transferred anyway.
To really make a difference it is necessary to change the believe systems of the people. Banning words is like brushing over and old car with new paint. It looks better but it still doesn´t work because it is the inside that counts.
That’s not really what I or anyone means. AP accused SLAP of doing nothing to regulate the hate speech on these boards and he cited a step many message boards take to at least cut back on the most flagrant examples. Some troll poster very recently just dropped a bit of that hate speech in one of the most beloved poster’s inboxes. Cutting that shit back is just a tiny, achievable goal to make this a better place.
Long term societal change is something that will need to be worked for daily, weekly, monthly, yearly and if we can take steps to eliminate the white noise from the trolls maybe those feeling marginalized will start to join the boards and share their views, perspectives, etc which will engender empathy and allow us to all come together as people whose love of skateboarding far outweighs our abilities on them.
Thanks for the explanation. Not sure that it works though. People who want to spread hate will eventually find a way to do so. Therefore, instead of filtering out certain terms, I´d rather see all the silent readers on the forum eventually raise their voice to show some solidarity and call out racist or sexist behaviour when it happens. It should be our goal to actually prove that little internet trolls are a small group of idiots who act bigger than they are.
Not gonna lie, I’m not really in favor of policing speech. I completely back educating people about why their train of thought is flawed & showing them a better way, and it’s hard to determine who needs that level of consideration if they’re ostensibly silenced. My fear is that censorship pushes the ability to address these issues outside of the realm of scrutiny, where it has the potential to fester in the darkness outside the realm of public acknowledgement. Look at the racists and neo-Nazi’s who’ve been purged from social media, they’ve been forced to take up sharing their thoughts and feelings in the shadows of an app like Telegram, where everything they say is negatively compounded & reinforced without the ability for outside intervention to help them broaden their views & help the world at large.
As a Journalism/ADPR graduate, I also think policing speech is a slippery slope towards full-blown censorship and as you said these people will find ways to spread their hate. They will just do it in their safe little echo chambers where they won't be called on their bullshit and in fact it might even make them feel vindicated since everyone is agreeing with them.
Some of the dumbest fucks I know graduated from quality J programs, you prefacing your ignorant viewpoint with the fact that that was your major does nothing for your argument lmao.
It was more of a statement that I’ve had to take classes that are all about free speech and censorship than saying I’m smarter than anyone else but okay, cool opinion guy
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Uhhhh yeah, no one cares Gary
All wary men say the same thing - WHO'S NEXT?! It don't fucking matter dude. Don't be a dick and you don't gotta worry. Case closed. Now please, mmm, shut up a your mouth.
He gave a diplomatic answer since he works under the umbrella of the largest skateboard media company out right now, we saw this coming. He had the gumption to say that his actions were trash though, so at least give him that. He’s right though, people like Johan should have respected his partners and exercised some honesty in the matter.
Either way, at least he didn’t ignore it like The 9 Club does...
Agree. Not saying Chris Roberts and Crew need to address politics every episode. But as skateboarders with a big platform they should bring up the allegations.
Think about how many young women listen to the 9 Club who are just starting to skateboard. Giving them a voice of reassurance that they back them would go so far.
Come on Roberts. You want to be Howard Stern but you don’t want to touch on subject matter that could be uncomfortable
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Uhhhh yeah, no one cares Gary
All wary men say the same thing - WHO'S NEXT?! It don't fucking matter dude. Don't be a dick and you don't gotta worry. Case closed. Now please, mmm, shut up a your mouth.
He gave a diplomatic answer since he works under the umbrella of the largest skateboard media company out right now, we saw this coming. He had the gumption to say that his actions were trash though, so at least give him that. He’s right though, people like Johan should have respected his partners and exercised some honesty in the matter.
Either way, at least he didn’t ignore it like The 9 Club does...
Agree. Not saying Chris Roberts and Crew need to address politics every episode. But as skateboarders with a big platform they should bring up the allegations.
Think about how many young women listen to the 9 Club who are just starting to skateboard. Giving them a voice of reassurance that they back them would go so far.
Come on Roberts. You want to be Howard Stern but you don’t want to touch on subject matter that could be uncomfortable
9 club proved long ago it's a sterile environment geared towards self promotion. Just let it fade away and keep refreshing Chromeball.
Roberts, if you're reading this.... let Roger talk more, you talk less, and Kelly should get your spot on Chocolate.
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We should worry less about blocking out the things we don't agree with or find abhorrent, and spend more time trying to find ways to stop people from saying them in the first place through education and conversation.
Or, you know, just spend less time in and on these places ourselves and do more in the real world.
That works too.
Agreed, but a filter that blocks out the N word or the F word can be accomplished presumably in a day
Sure. But that same filter needs to also block out a lot more words than just those two, too.
And so this is where things get complicated...
You need to cut the R-word, the B-word, the C-word, and on and on. Which is fine if that's what we want to do.
And then you have the issue of: Well, what if you're black and want to use the N-word? Or gay and the F-word?
I know this is playing devils advocate, but banning words isn't the answer. Education and conversation is. The word might be hurtful, but it's the hatred behind those words that really needs to be eradicated. And I worry that banning words means people start thinking a problem's solved when really that couldn't be further from the truth.
Our whole culture is becoming built around blocking the things out that we don't agree with or like. Or that don't interest us. And I just think that's a dangerous path.
For the same reason it's dangerous to get all your news from Fox.
Or all your books/groceries/sex toys from Amazon.
Look up the “devils advocate” meme going around. Long term education can go hand and in hand with short term steps to make this a place where hate speech doesn’t need to be seen or can thrive. I’m sure the hypothetical gays, Blacks, mentally challenged, et al posters will gladly forgo the opportunity to reclaim the hate words associated with them for the sake of making these boards less hostile, less vulnerable to troll attacks. This is not some thought police experiment and it sounds like a measure many message boards have already implemented without disaster
Fully back this tho. For sure.
From a non-anglo-saxon point of view I follow this conversation about cancel culture with great interest. However, I cannot understand why some people involved in this discussion really believe that blocking terms and replacing them by abbreviations like the n-word will reduce rascism and hate speech. I don´t think peoples minds work like that because whenever someone uses a proxy of an infamous word the meaning gets transferred anyway.
To really make a difference it is necessary to change the believe systems of the people. Banning words is like brushing over and old car with new paint. It looks better but it still doesn´t work because it is the inside that counts.
That’s not really what I or anyone means. AP accused SLAP of doing nothing to regulate the hate speech on these boards and he cited a step many message boards take to at least cut back on the most flagrant examples. Some troll poster very recently just dropped a bit of that hate speech in one of the most beloved poster’s inboxes. Cutting that shit back is just a tiny, achievable goal to make this a better place.
Long term societal change is something that will need to be worked for daily, weekly, monthly, yearly and if we can take steps to eliminate the white noise from the trolls maybe those feeling marginalized will start to join the boards and share their views, perspectives, etc which will engender empathy and allow us to all come together as people whose love of skateboarding far outweighs our abilities on them.
Thanks for the explanation. Not sure that it works though. People who want to spread hate will eventually find a way to do so. Therefore, instead of filtering out certain terms, I´d rather see all the silent readers on the forum eventually raise their voice to show some solidarity and call out racist or sexist behaviour when it happens. It should be our goal to actually prove that little internet trolls are a small group of idiots who act bigger than they are.
Not gonna lie, I’m not really in favor of policing speech. I completely back educating people about why their train of thought is flawed & showing them a better way, and it’s hard to determine who needs that level of consideration if they’re ostensibly silenced. My fear is that censorship pushes the ability to address these issues outside of the realm of scrutiny, where it has the potential to fester in the darkness outside the realm of public acknowledgement. Look at the racists and neo-Nazi’s who’ve been purged from social media, they’ve been forced to take up sharing their thoughts and feelings in the shadows of an app like Telegram, where everything they say is negatively compounded & reinforced without the ability for outside intervention to help them broaden their views & help the world at large.
As a Journalism/ADPR graduate, I also think policing speech is a slippery slope towards full-blown censorship and as you said these people will find ways to spread their hate. They will just do it in their safe little echo chambers where they won't be called on their bullshit and in fact it might even make them feel vindicated since everyone is agreeing with them.
come on dude. this is slap, not a major newspaper. blocking hate speech is not some sort of start line of the decline of civilization. it's letting people know they can't be horrible human beings.
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If you block the slurs, the people who use them get the message that they’re not wanted here.
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Remember this from last week?
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https://www.psypost.org/2020/06/psychopathic-traits-linked-to-non-compliance-with-social-distancing-guidelines-amid-the-coronavirus-pandemic-56980
Read the full article. I just wanted to highlight this part that I found highly interesting and relevant to this topic. Mind you, I really backed Johan and WKND up until this. Had several boards of his, love his skating but slowly started to learn he was a con artist and all that jazz. Bottom line: I wish him well and truly hope he seeks treatment for the protection of the community.
"I knew that traits from the so-called Dark Triad (narcissism, Machiavellianism, and psychopathy) as well as the traits subsumed within psychopathy are linked to health risk behavior and health problems, and I expected them to be implicated in health behaviors during the pandemic. There is also prior research suggesting that people high on the Dark Triad traits may knowingly and even deliberately put other people’s health at risk, e.g., by engaging in risky sexual behavior and not telling their partner about having HIV or STIs,” Blagov told PsyPost."
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Johan Stuckey...the Machiavellian...narcissistic...psychopath.
edit: but seriously fuck this guy.
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Would like to see a johan dick pic to confirm the herpes sores, warts and chlamidia. Did any of these chicks post?
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Bro if you really wanna see some rank shit just google images fungating penile tumor
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Bro if you really wanna see some rank shit just google images fungating penile tumor
Coincidentally that’s the name of my favorite “surgical death metal” band!
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the OP is calling out one of the members of the band the Black Lips now too. Seems like the garage rock scene is having a huge meltdown
https://www.instagram.com/p/CC2N63xhKLP/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet
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I saw that. I can't get my head around it though. Too much writing maybe.
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the OP is calling out one of the members of the band the Black Lips now too. Seems like the garage rock scene is having a huge meltdown
https://www.instagram.com/p/CC2N63xhKLP/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet
She put something out about Matt Mondanile from real estate/ducktails a few years ago too
https://www.instagram.com/p/BaNaTysl3fn/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet
Edit: found the post
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https://www.psypost.org/2020/06/psychopathic-traits-linked-to-non-compliance-with-social-distancing-guidelines-amid-the-coronavirus-pandemic-56980
Read the full article. I just wanted to highlight this part that I found highly interesting and relevant to this topic. Mind you, I really backed Johan and WKND up until this. Had several boards of his, love his skating but slowly started to learn he was a con artist and all that jazz. Bottom line: I wish him well and truly hope he seeks treatment for the protection of the community.
"I knew that traits from the so-called Dark Triad (narcissism, Machiavellianism, and psychopathy) as well as the traits subsumed within psychopathy are linked to health risk behavior and health problems, and I expected them to be implicated in health behaviors during the pandemic. There is also prior research suggesting that people high on the Dark Triad traits may knowingly and even deliberately put other people’s health at risk, e.g., by engaging in risky sexual behavior and not telling their partner about having HIV or STIs,” Blagov told PsyPost."
Sounds like Blagov listened to one too many Dr. Grande podcasts...
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https://www.psypost.org/2020/06/psychopathic-traits-linked-to-non-compliance-with-social-distancing-guidelines-amid-the-coronavirus-pandemic-56980
Read the full article. I just wanted to highlight this part that I found highly interesting and relevant to this topic. Mind you, I really backed Johan and WKND up until this. Had several boards of his, love his skating but slowly started to learn he was a con artist and all that jazz. Bottom line: I wish him well and truly hope he seeks treatment for the protection of the community.
"I knew that traits from the so-called Dark Triad (narcissism, Machiavellianism, and psychopathy) as well as the traits subsumed within psychopathy are linked to health risk behavior and health problems, and I expected them to be implicated in health behaviors during the pandemic. There is also prior research suggesting that people high on the Dark Triad traits may knowingly and even deliberately put other people’s health at risk, e.g., by engaging in risky sexual behavior and not telling their partner about having HIV or STIs,” Blagov told PsyPost."
Sounds like Blagov listened to one too many Dr. Grande podcasts...
haha, no shame, i'm sure we've all been stuck in a Dr Grande wormhole
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https://www.psypost.org/2020/06/psychopathic-traits-linked-to-non-compliance-with-social-distancing-guidelines-amid-the-coronavirus-pandemic-56980
Read the full article. I just wanted to highlight this part that I found highly interesting and relevant to this topic. Mind you, I really backed Johan and WKND up until this. Had several boards of his, love his skating but slowly started to learn he was a con artist and all that jazz. Bottom line: I wish him well and truly hope he seeks treatment for the protection of the community.
"I knew that traits from the so-called Dark Triad (narcissism, Machiavellianism, and psychopathy) as well as the traits subsumed within psychopathy are linked to health risk behavior and health problems, and I expected them to be implicated in health behaviors during the pandemic. There is also prior research suggesting that people high on the Dark Triad traits may knowingly and even deliberately put other people’s health at risk, e.g., by engaging in risky sexual behavior and not telling their partner about having HIV or STIs,” Blagov told PsyPost."
Sounds like Blagov listened to one too many Dr. Grande podcasts...
haha, no shame, i'm sure we've all been stuck in a Dr Grande wormhole
No shame indeed, he easily has one of the best YouTube channels out right now. I’m just glad to see that I’m not the only one who’s marathon watched his content.
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I learned about the dark triad in abnormal psych class in college and some of these motherfuckers wear that shit in spades: Nyjah, Biebel, David Loy, this douchenozzle.
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the OP is calling out one of the members of the band the Black Lips now too. Seems like the garage rock scene is having a huge meltdown
https://www.instagram.com/p/CC2N63xhKLP/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet
Thats crazy because like a week ago out of nowhere I remembered that back in the day this girl who was like 16 that we knew was hooking up with their manager this creepy older white dude who was in his 30s at least.
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This chick is crazytown . i feel bad for her current boyfriend , who knows whats going to happen . it sucks Johan did what he did but , when your 18 and being a groupie shit happens
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the OP is calling out one of the members of the band the Black Lips now too. Seems like the garage rock scene is having a huge meltdown
https://www.instagram.com/p/CC2N63xhKLP/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet
there's a whole account now just dedicated to calling out Burger Records artists. shit is pretty rampant in that scene
https://www.instagram.com/p/CCyx2MCpwPQ/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
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Hopefully she gets the help and support she needs. It seems she has a history of being around really shitty men and people in general who condone risky behavior.
Her Insta story said she had a falling out with her family. Like maybe they should have prepared her better for the world because any grown ass man has no other reason to talk to a teenager other than to try to have sex with them.
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i have a friend who's band has toured with/been around some of the burger bands and he said there's definitely a few guys here and there that are like that. I didn't even have to ask him, i just told him it was cool that he was playing with those bands and he told me that was why he wasn't that hyped
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It seems to me the girl is damaged. Most of us look at her and maybe see her as damaged, maybe not.
But the truly predatory motherfuckers out there are going to see her as damaged goods prime to be groomed or molded. To most of us this makes no sense because most people aren’t scumbags.
Not a real leap to imagine her psyche has been badly damaged and until she is “fixed”(and maybe she has been working on that healing and is doing much better now) she, and all the people in similar situations, will attract these types of predators.
I think we can all agree to wish her the best mental health moving forward.
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the OP is calling out one of the members of the band the Black Lips now too. Seems like the garage rock scene is having a huge meltdown
https://www.instagram.com/p/CC2N63xhKLP/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet
Call me crazy but other than there being an age difference what's the problem here? I was waiting to get to the bit where he raped her or gave her syphilis or something.
If she's 18 it's legal yeah?
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wouldnt be surprised if she was raped as a young child but I’m pretty liberal so I back pedofila
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the OP is calling out one of the members of the band the Black Lips now too. Seems like the garage rock scene is having a huge meltdown
https://www.instagram.com/p/CC2N63xhKLP/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet
Call me crazy but other than there being an age difference what's the problem here? I was waiting to get to the bit where he raped her or gave her syphilis or something.
If she's 18 it's legal yeah?
“Legal” =/= not immoral
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wouldnt be surprised if she was raped as a young child but I’m pretty liberal so I back pedofila
Is that the childrens line by Fila?
Haha. English isn’t my 1st language so sometimes I break words down
Pedo-of children, relating to children
Fila-loving, named from a goddess
Pedofila is pedophilia bit only towards women. I dont back pedophilia towards young boys.
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the OP is calling out one of the members of the band the Black Lips now too. Seems like the garage rock scene is having a huge meltdown
https://www.instagram.com/p/CC2N63xhKLP/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet
there's a whole account now just dedicated to calling out Burger Records artists. shit is pretty rampant in that scene
https://www.instagram.com/p/CCyx2MCpwPQ/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
Burger Records “execs”, employees, and almost all of their bands were called out and admitted to everything they were accused of. Lots of sexual misconduct allegations against underage girls over the past 10 years. They tried to rebrand for like a day and a half, but folded the company completely today because of the backlash
https://consequenceofsound.net/2020/07/burger-records-shuts-down-interim-presidents-departure/
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the OP is calling out one of the members of the band the Black Lips now too. Seems like the garage rock scene is having a huge meltdown
https://www.instagram.com/p/CC2N63xhKLP/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet
there's a whole account now just dedicated to calling out Burger Records artists. shit is pretty rampant in that scene
https://www.instagram.com/p/CCyx2MCpwPQ/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
https://consequenceofsound.net/2020/07/burger-records-shuts-down-interim-presidents-departure/
And what does this have to do with skateboarding?
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For one it’s coming from the girl that put Johan on blast. For two a lot of these assholes are in the same scene in Silver Lake/Echo Park/LA. For thirds you’re still an idiot and still suck
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This girl seems to have a had tough life, and I truly feel sorry for her. I hope she gets the answers and calmness she is looking for in her future.
I don't know if she actually pole dances or anything...for money, but that line of work can be very harmful on women's psyches. All types of disgusting men trying to grab you all time and lots of drugs going on. Stay safe Emily.
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Dudes acting like herpes is the end of the world, yet are constantly sharing joints/pipes/drinks with anyone.
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Dudes acting like herpes is the end of the world, yet are constantly sharing joints/pipes/drinks with anyone.
Yea but the people I smoke and share drinks with don’t have the obvious mouth/ lip cold sores :P
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This girl seems to have a had tough life, and I truly feel sorry for her. I hope she gets the answers and calmness she is looking for in her future.
I don't know if she actually pole dances or anything...for money, but that line of work can be very harmful on women's psyches. All types of disgusting men trying to grab you all time and lots of drugs going on. Stay safe Emily.
And also, you know, female empowerment sometimes too.
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wouldnt be surprised if she was raped as a young child but I’m pretty liberal so I back pedofila
Is that the childrens line by Fila?
Haha. English isn’t my 1st language so sometimes I break words down
Pedo-of children, relating to children
Fila-loving, named from a goddess
Pedofila is pedophilia bit only towards women. I dont back pedophilia towards young boys.
wow you subhuman NONCE
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wouldnt be surprised if she was raped as a young child but I’m pretty liberal so I back pedofila
Is that the childrens line by Fila?
Haha. English isn’t my 1st language so sometimes I break words down
Pedo-of children, relating to children
Fila-loving, named from a goddess
Pedofila is pedophilia bit only towards women. I dont back pedophilia towards young boys.
wow you subhuman NONCE
Wow, indeed! Thank you for saying something. Did that really slip past my notice? Shame on me TWICE. I’m slippin’.
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Dudes acting like herpes is the end of the world, yet are constantly sharing joints/pipes/drinks with anyone.
Yea but the people I smoke and share drinks with don’t have the obvious mouth/ lip cold sores :P
Haven't you been paying attention? You can still receive/transmit without active sores.
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wouldnt be surprised if she was raped as a young child but I’m pretty liberal so I back pedofila
Is that the childrens line by Fila?
Haha. English isn’t my 1st language so sometimes I break words down
Pedo-of children, relating to children
Fila-loving, named from a goddess
Pedofila is pedophilia bit only towards women. I dont back pedophilia towards young boys.
wow you subhuman NONCE
You're a good Pal i always see on the right side of things, we all miss things from time to time. Much love Lou
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wouldnt be surprised if she was raped as a young child but I’m pretty liberal so I back pedofila
Is that the childrens line by Fila?
Haha. English isn’t my 1st language so sometimes I break words down
Pedo-of children, relating to children
Fila-loving, named from a goddess
Pedofila is pedophilia bit only towards women. I dont back pedophilia towards young boys.
wow you subhuman NONCE
You're a good Pal i always see on the right side of things, we all miss things from time to time. Much love Lou
Except he makes fun of the disabled. Pretty disgusting tbh
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wouldnt be surprised if she was raped as a young child but I’m pretty liberal so I back pedofila
Is that the childrens line by Fila?
Haha. English isn’t my 1st language so sometimes I break words down
Pedo-of children, relating to children
Fila-loving, named from a goddess
Pedofila is pedophilia bit only towards women. I dont back pedophilia towards young boys.
wow you subhuman NONCE
You're a good Pal i always see on the right side of things, we all miss things from time to time. Much love Lou
Perhaps there is a misunderstanding/mistranslation but I don’t recall personally making fun of the disabled
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I think we can all agree to wish her the best mental health moving forward.
Never got the virgin thing
I like girls with a bit of experience
People are strange
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http://www.wkndbrand.com/static/media/WKND_LETTER.eb55796a.pdf
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So Weekend is saying no one on the team knew what he was doing? And that they're totally against this type of behavior but still hang out with him? The fuck out of here.
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http://www.wkndbrand.com/static/media/WKND_LETTER.eb55796a.pdf
Being that this is WKND, I can't ignore the nagging feeling that this letter is tongue-in-cheek.
Or, at least there were a few giggles at HQ every time the word "sexual" came up. I'm picturing Grant quipping, "STI? Isn't that an Etnies thing?"
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the virtue signaling from WKND makes me want to puke
HEY GUYS WE TALK TO WOMEN AND HAVE TOKEN QUEER PEOPLE WERE NOT BAD
fucking barf
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This is what’s known as “little too little too late”.
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People on WKND get paid??
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How they fuck do they expect anyone to believe that his "behavior had gone undetected by the people at
WKND" when they made two jokes about it during that roast of Johan?
This letter is the epitome of corporate wokeness. Trying to atone by dumping more "resources" that nobody will ever fucking read into a world already awash in meaningless infographics and educational materials. Hoping to get some woke cred by name checking women and queer skaters that they enlisted to, you guessed it, create more "resources" that literally nobody is asking for. The whole thing feels ripped from every mind-numbing seminar put on by a grifter making $10,000 an hour to help investment banks become "equity-minded".
Unending performative bullshit, never actually taking real accountability.
Would expect nothing less from the embodiment of transplant culture. Fuck these guys, go back to Florida.
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How they fuck do they expect anyone to believe that his "behavior had gone undetected by the people at
WKND" when they made two jokes about it during that roast of Johan?
This letter is the epitome of corporate wokeness. Trying to atone by dumping more "resources" that nobody will ever fucking read into a world already awash in meaningless infographics and educational materials. Hoping to get some woke cred by name checking women and queer skaters that they enlisted to, you guessed it, create more "resources" that literally nobody is asking for. The whole thing feels ripped from every mind-numbing seminar put on by a grifter making $10,000 an hour to help investment banks become "equity-minded".
Unending performative bullshit, never actually taking real accountability.
Would expect nothing less from the embodiment of transplant culture. Fuck these guys, go back to Florida.
How would you respond to what happened, in their shoes?
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https://www.instagram.com/p/CGs3MMZpMCw/
After learning about the abusive behavior of one of our riders, we decided that we wanted to do more than just remove this person from our team - we also want to leverage the resources we have as a brand to make skateboarding safer and more inclusive moving forward.
In line with this intention, today we launched a resource page to support education and conversation within the skateboarding community, addressing topics such as consent, accountability, sexual abuse, and beyond. This webpage is “living” meaning that we are accepting resource submissions. Please reach out at [email protected] if you have resources you’d like to share.
We’ve also been making other efforts to support fundamental changes in skateboarding and the greater community. These actions are detailed in a letter from us on the resource page as well.
Link to the resource page in bio.
http://www.wkndbrand.com/resources/
The absolute irony.
Can't blame them for trying to turn things around.
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How they fuck do they expect anyone to believe that his "behavior had gone undetected by the people at
WKND" when they made two jokes about it during that roast of Johan?
This letter is the epitome of corporate wokeness. Trying to atone by dumping more "resources" that nobody will ever fucking read into a world already awash in meaningless infographics and educational materials. Hoping to get some woke cred by name checking women and queer skaters that they enlisted to, you guessed it, create more "resources" that literally nobody is asking for. The whole thing feels ripped from every mind-numbing seminar put on by a grifter making $10,000 an hour to help investment banks become "equity-minded".
Unending performative bullshit, never actually taking real accountability.
Would expect nothing less from the embodiment of transplant culture. Fuck these guys, go back to Florida.
How would you respond to what happened, in their shoes?
An apology needs to have two things: a full acknowledgment of wrongdoing, and an explanation of how you're going to make it right. This letter is all of the latter and none of the former.
They can't make a big deal about how they had extensive conversations with survivors and then claim total ignorance of Johan's actions. The woman who made the first public accusation said that she spoke out over a year ago leading to a premiere getting canceled, something they'd have to know about. She also pointed out how they make 2 different jokes about Johan giving women STIs in the roast.
The donations are a great thing, and even the community resource stuff would be fine in a vacuum. But glossing over their own involvement makes this seem like a cynical attempt to look like the good guys in the situation.
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LOL because guys never know or talk candidly in groups about what their bros are up to sexually.
My friends are some of the most greeeezy dudes on planet earth. I can't listen to them talk about their exploits because just the thought of them getting right grosses me out.
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How they fuck do they expect anyone to believe that his "behavior had gone undetected by the people at
WKND" when they made two jokes about it during that roast of Johan?
This letter is the epitome of corporate wokeness. Trying to atone by dumping more "resources" that nobody will ever fucking read into a world already awash in meaningless infographics and educational materials. Hoping to get some woke cred by name checking women and queer skaters that they enlisted to, you guessed it, create more "resources" that literally nobody is asking for. The whole thing feels ripped from every mind-numbing seminar put on by a grifter making $10,000 an hour to help investment banks become "equity-minded".
Unending performative bullshit, never actually taking real accountability.
Would expect nothing less from the embodiment of transplant culture. Fuck these guys, go back to Florida.
How would you respond to what happened, in their shoes?
An apology needs to have two things: a full acknowledgment of wrongdoing, and an explanation of how you're going to make it right. This letter is all of the latter and none of the former.
They can't make a big deal about how they had extensive conversations with survivors and then claim total ignorance of Johan's actions. The woman who made the first public accusation said that she spoke out over a year ago leading to a premiere getting canceled, something they'd have to know about. She also pointed out how they make 2 different jokes about Johan giving women STIs in the roast.
The donations are a great thing, and even the community resource stuff would be fine in a vacuum. But glossing over their own involvement makes this seem like a cynical attempt to look like the good guys in the situation.
sizzla tink wha ya seh mek ya sanctimonious. wha ya know bout redemption, mi seh. yo, mi seh the wicked man could neva tek the righteous man place. jah seh no abomination so mi nuh business a who. tell dem say the fruit of knowledge mus be use fi the goodness of humanity. I&I need remind dem so much of who dem supposed tah be. but mi know ya have lost ya way and now ya no have clue.
jah guide
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How they fuck do they expect anyone to believe that his "behavior had gone undetected by the people at
WKND" when they made two jokes about it during that roast of Johan?
This letter is the epitome of corporate wokeness. Trying to atone by dumping more "resources" that nobody will ever fucking read into a world already awash in meaningless infographics and educational materials. Hoping to get some woke cred by name checking women and queer skaters that they enlisted to, you guessed it, create more "resources" that literally nobody is asking for. The whole thing feels ripped from every mind-numbing seminar put on by a grifter making $10,000 an hour to help investment banks become "equity-minded".
Unending performative bullshit, never actually taking real accountability.
Would expect nothing less from the embodiment of transplant culture. Fuck these guys, go back to Florida.
How would you respond to what happened, in their shoes?
An apology needs to have two things: a full acknowledgment of wrongdoing, and an explanation of how you're going to make it right. This letter is all of the latter and none of the former.
They can't make a big deal about how they had extensive conversations with survivors and then claim total ignorance of Johan's actions. The woman who made the first public accusation said that she spoke out over a year ago leading to a premiere getting canceled, something they'd have to know about. She also pointed out how they make 2 different jokes about Johan giving women STIs in the roast.
The donations are a great thing, and even the community resource stuff would be fine in a vacuum. But glossing over their own involvement makes this seem like a cynical attempt to look like the good guys in the situation.
sizzla tink wha ya seh mek ya sanctimonious. wha ya know bout redemption, mi seh. yo, mi seh the wicked man could neva tek the righteous man place. jah seh no abomination so mi nuh business a who. tell dem say the fruit of knowledge mus be use fi the goodness of humanity. I&I need remind dem so much of who dem supposed tah be. but mi know ya have lost ya way and now ya no have clue.
jah guide
I'm not being sanctimonious, I'm saying that they can't act like they're doing something meaningful while refusing to acknowledge their role in the situation. Even if they denied it, it would be better than outright ignoring it.
They made specific references to Johan giving people STIs during their roast (the video of which has been taken down of course). The victim says that she informed a venue about the situation a year ago leading to WKND moving to a different place for their premiere. If they really took time to speak to her like they said then they would know this.
It just doesn't add up
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How they fuck do they expect anyone to believe that his "behavior had gone undetected by the people at
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I'm so glad Caleb McNeely jumped ship when he did.
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So Johan Stuckey is being cancelled for having herpes?
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How they fuck do they expect anyone to believe that his "behavior had gone undetected by the people at
WKND" when they made two jokes about it during that roast of Johan?
Didn't Clint Peterson also sing a song about it?
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How they fuck do they expect anyone to believe that his "behavior had gone undetected by the people at
WKND" when they made two jokes about it during that roast of Johan?
This letter is the epitome of corporate wokeness. Trying to atone by dumping more "resources" that nobody will ever fucking read into a world already awash in meaningless infographics and educational materials. Hoping to get some woke cred by name checking women and queer skaters that they enlisted to, you guessed it, create more "resources" that literally nobody is asking for. The whole thing feels ripped from every mind-numbing seminar put on by a grifter making $10,000 an hour to help investment banks become "equity-minded".
Unending performative bullshit, never actually taking real accountability.
Would expect nothing less from the embodiment of transplant culture. Fuck these guys, go back to Florida.
How would you respond to what happened, in their shoes?
Maybe something like "We used to employ a mediocre skater who somehow looks like an ugly version of Bubbles and who knowingly spread STIs to women. Although Ugly Bubbles no longer performs his mediocre tricks on our behalf, we fucked up by condoning his behavior while it was happening. In that sense, we were just as shitty as Ugly Bubbles. We hope from now on to no longer be on an Ugly Bubbles level of shittiness. Please buy our boards. They're made at PS Stix, so you know they're good. We don't know what we'll do if you don't buy them. Ugly Bubbles painted us into a real corner here."
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How they fuck do they expect anyone to believe that his "behavior had gone undetected by the people at
WKND" when they made two jokes about it during that roast of Johan?
Didn't Clint Peterson also sing a song about it?
There were some jokes about him having an STD, but they never said anything about him knowingly spreading it around.
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How they fuck do they expect anyone to believe that his "behavior had gone undetected by the people at
WKND" when they made two jokes about it during that roast of Johan?
Didn't Clint Peterson also sing a song about it?
There were some jokes about him having an STD, but they never said anything about him knowingly spreading it around.
The first joke was about one of their riders going to NYU for a BFA and Johan going for an STI. The second joke was saying Johan was like Santa Claus because every girl who sits on him gets something. It's the second joke that is suspect.
I guess it's entirely possible that WKND knew that Johan was giving people STI's but just assumed that this was being done entirely consensually, but that seems like a stretch. According to the victim that they supposedly had multiple conversations with they also had a chance to learn about this when their venue for a premiere canceled on them a year ago because of these allegations.
All that being said, they 100% know about these allegations regarding their own behavior and neglected to address them in this apology.
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All that has been dissected here before. Yeah they knew, this is just PR - like any other company scrambling to fix their image with a bold-faced lie. What do you expect from a fake positivity/inclusivity brand based on virtue signalling? They're disingenuous and full of cringe, all their skits are incredibly lame.
the virtue signaling from WKND makes me want to puke
HEY GUYS WE TALK TO WOMEN AND HAVE TOKEN QUEER PEOPLE WERE NOT BAD
fucking barf
This.
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How they fuck do they expect anyone to believe that his "behavior had gone undetected by the people at
WKND" when they made two jokes about it during that roast of Johan?
Didn't Clint Peterson also sing a song about it?
There were some jokes about him having an STD, but they never said anything about him knowingly spreading it around.
The first joke was about one of their riders going to NYU for a BFA and Johan going for an STI. The second joke was saying Johan was like Santa Claus because every girl who sits on him gets something. It's the second joke that is suspect.
I guess it's entirely possible that WKND knew that Johan was giving people STI's but just assumed that this was being done entirely consensually, but that seems like a stretch. According to the victim that they supposedly had multiple conversations with they also had a chance to learn about this when their venue for a premiere canceled on them a year ago because of these allegations.
All that being said, they 100% know about these allegations regarding their own behavior and neglected to address them in this apology.
forgot about that one. I stand corrected.
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But will he stay cancelled? Or will he attempt a Keelan Dadd?
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All that has been dissected here before. Yeah they knew, this is just PR - like any other company scrambling to fix their image with a bold-faced lie. What do you expect from a fake positivity/inclusivity brand based on virtue signalling? They're disingenuous and full of cringe, all their skits are incredibly lame.
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the virtue signaling from WKND makes me want to puke
HEY GUYS WE TALK TO WOMEN AND HAVE TOKEN QUEER PEOPLE WERE NOT BAD
fucking barf
Fucking shit I really like Tom k, Alexis sablone (look i just got internet back I get my news from thrasher, if these people are already gone then fuck me) and... The guy with the blue 212 new balance that rides off small roofs... Always forget Jordan somebody... I liked Austin's boards when he was in there...
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The lady in Grace Under Fire (90s sitcom) worked for a refinery called CBD Oil iirc
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How they fuck do they expect anyone to believe that his "behavior had gone undetected by the people at
WKND" when they made two jokes about it during that roast of Johan?
This letter is the epitome of corporate wokeness. Trying to atone by dumping more "resources" that nobody will ever fucking read into a world already awash in meaningless infographics and educational materials. Hoping to get some woke cred by name checking women and queer skaters that they enlisted to, you guessed it, create more "resources" that literally nobody is asking for. The whole thing feels ripped from every mind-numbing seminar put on by a grifter making $10,000 an hour to help investment banks become "equity-minded".
Unending performative bullshit, never actually taking real accountability.
Would expect nothing less from the embodiment of transplant culture. Fuck these guys, go back to Florida.
How would you respond to what happened, in their shoes?
Maybe something like "We used to employ a mediocre skater who somehow looks like an ugly version of Bubbles and who knowingly spread STIs to women. Although Ugly Bubbles no longer performs his mediocre tricks on our behalf, we fucked up by condoning his behavior while it was happening. In that sense, we were just as shitty as Ugly Bubbles. We hope from now on to no longer be on an Ugly Bubbles level of shittiness. Please buy our boards. They're made at PS Stix, so you know they're good. We don't know what we'll do if you don't buy them. Ugly Bubbles painted us into a real corner here."
Usually I hate everything you say but this is spot on haha
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some of you tryna justify this really concerning
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I don’t like to say negative things about people........ BUT johan was always kind of weird. And you know who was even weirder? Grant yansura. I’m not surprised by johan knowingly passing stds. Equally not surprised at how fast grant threw his “friend” under the bus and started backpedaling. Grant doesn’t care about what johan did to that poor girl. He’s just trying to save face and it obvious. Shame on all of em.
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How they fuck do they expect anyone to believe that his "behavior had gone undetected by the people at
WKND" when they made two jokes about it during that roast of Johan?
Didn't Clint Peterson also sing a song about it?
There were some jokes about him having an STD, but they never said anything about him knowingly spreading it around.
The first joke was about one of their riders going to NYU for a BFA and Johan going for an STI. The second joke was saying Johan was like Santa Claus because every girl who sits on him gets something. It's the second joke that is suspect.
I guess it's entirely possible that WKND knew that Johan was giving people STI's but just assumed that this was being done entirely consensually, but that seems like a stretch. According to the victim that they supposedly had multiple conversations with they also had a chance to learn about this when their venue for a premiere canceled on them a year ago because of these allegations.
All that being said, they 100% know about these allegations regarding their own behavior and neglected to address them in this apology.
So nobody got this video saved somewhere ?
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How they fuck do they expect anyone to believe that his "behavior had gone undetected by the people at
WKND" when they made two jokes about it during that roast of Johan?
Didn't Clint Peterson also sing a song about it?
There were some jokes about him having an STD, but they never said anything about him knowingly spreading it around.
The first joke was about one of their riders going to NYU for a BFA and Johan going for an STI. The second joke was saying Johan was like Santa Claus because every girl who sits on him gets something. It's the second joke that is suspect.
I guess it's entirely possible that WKND knew that Johan was giving people STI's but just assumed that this was being done entirely consensually, but that seems like a stretch. According to the victim that they supposedly had multiple conversations with they also had a chance to learn about this when their venue for a premiere canceled on them a year ago because of these allegations.
All that being said, they 100% know about these allegations regarding their own behavior and neglected to address them in this apology.
So nobody got this video saved somewhere ?
For what purpose? A case study in bad teeth? Johan, Dangel, those two hunchback comedian brothers...it was the Big Book of Buscemi Smiles up in that bitch.