Seems like they still have plenty of the classic designs youre talking about. I mean those two you posted just seemed like riffs on old skools and eras? Those AA are literally a high top version of one of the first shoes they put out. I did not like the look but the AVE's were probably the best feeling vans I've had in years.
https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Vans/catpage-VANS.html
Not gonna defend the style of the new shoes but they definitely feel better now than what I remember from the era you're talking about.Expand QuoteSeems like they still have plenty of the classic designs youre talking about. I mean those two you posted just seemed like riffs on old skools and eras? Those AA are literally a high top version of one of the first shoes they put out. I did not like the look but the AVE's were probably the best feeling vans I've had in years.
https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Vans/catpage-VANS.html[close]
They still do have some of the iconic designs, but they usually fuck it up with either disgusting materials or a gross looking toecap. I know they still offer the old models such as the OldSkool or the Era but I wish they could release something like the SPV or the SOLOS...
I bet theyre all pretty good for skating, but they just dont look good in my opinion.
Also a big thing is the prize of the shoes.
here in europe you pay up to 140 for a pair of AVEs, 130 for a pair of Berle Pros
I dunno. I love the classics but my ankles do not as much. I can do half cabs, but eras kill my feet. Haven't worn old skools in about 7 years so I'm not sure. I kind of do like the Ave Pro. I have been pondering wearing Vans again after I run out of adidas. I wish the pro shoes had a bit of variety on look though. I feel (and this is just me skimming the site) that a lot look the same, generally speaking.
Are the AVE worth it? Can't imagine paying 100 bucks for Vans, just based on how much I've torn Vans up in my life.
I like the Rowleys, TNT, and Rowan. I am 100% not a fan of those toecaps , like on Berle shoe. Reminds me of ex-girlfriends Skechers n shit.
It’s funny how the Rowan looks like Rowan took the time to come up with a shoe with the design team while the Berle looks like the design department came up with something and gave it to him.I was thinking the opposite - Berle has a unique sole design. Rowan's shoe has the same thing as team models but they're pretending its new tech by changing the name to pop cush and claiming a new rubber formula (which if it were different/better, they'd use it on all the models, not just his.)
I see what you’re saying but I feel like the sole design was more Vans coming up with it than Elijah. He seems to just skate the authentics now that the promotion for his shoe died down. The Rowan even though the sole is the same looks like a Half Cab with the TNT SG mixed into it. That’s something Rowan said himself in interviews.I was thinking the opposite - Berle has a unique sole design. Rowan's shoe has the same thing as team models but they're pretending its new tech by changing the name to pop cush and claiming a new rubber formula (which if it were different/better, they'd use it on all the models, not just his.)Expand QuoteIt’s funny how the Rowan looks like Rowan took the time to come up with a shoe with the design team while the Berle looks like the design department came up with something and gave it to him.[close]
I bet theyre all pretty good for skating, but they just dont look good in my opinion.
Also a big thing is the prize of the shoes.
here in europe you pay up to 140 for a pair of AVEs, 130 for a pair of Berle Pros
but you pay 90 for a Nike SB Blazer, 90-100 for some CTAs Pro or 100 for a Busenitz Pro
I was thinking the opposite - Berle has a unique sole design. Rowan's shoe has the same thing as team models but they're pretending its new tech by changing the name to pop cush and claiming a new rubber formula (which if it were different/better, they'd use it on all the models, not just his.)Expand QuoteIt’s funny how the Rowan looks like Rowan took the time to come up with a shoe with the design team while the Berle looks like the design department came up with something and gave it to him.[close]
Picked up the suede AA authentic hi’s, and they are comfy as fuck. I haven’t skated them yet but they seem like they would be durable. It’s been awhile since I’ve skated Vans and those AVEs look sick as fuck. Just couldn’t imagine dropping 100 on Vans tho....which color? Pic? Is the collar padded at all
which color? Pic? Is the collar padded at allExpand QuotePicked up the suede AA authentic hi’s, and they are comfy as fuck. I haven’t skated them yet but they seem like they would be durable. It’s been awhile since I’ve skated Vans and those AVEs look sick as fuck. Just couldn’t imagine dropping 100 on Vans tho....[close]
rowley spv suckedSPV were socks with laces, they actually looked like a ballerina dancing shoe.
rowley squares sucked more
The exp slips are $40 something on tactics. Who is gonna try em?Lookdown factor is so bad that I don't think I could do it even for $42
Lookdown factor is so bad that I don't think I could do it even for $42Expand QuoteThe exp slips are $40 something on tactics. Who is gonna try em?[close]
Expand QuoteLookdown factor is so bad that I don't think I could do it even for $42Expand QuoteThe exp slips are $40 something on tactics. Who is gonna try em?[close][close]
Why when you can get Chimas at that price?
https://www.tactics.com/vans/chima-pro-2-skate-shoes/port-royal-true-white
youve worn? If theyre trash theyre trash haha. Haven’t seen any reviews really.Lookdown factor is so bad that I don't think I could do it even for $42Expand QuoteThe exp slips are $40 something on tactics. Who is gonna try em?[close]
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteLookdown factor is so bad that I don't think I could do it even for $42Expand QuoteThe exp slips are $40 something on tactics. Who is gonna try em?[close][close]
Why when you can get Chimas at that price?
https://www.tactics.com/vans/chima-pro-2-skate-shoes/port-royal-true-white[close]
Because they’re cup sole?
Tempted but not a fan of that color way. May do it and run them as house/regular shoes.
I'm curious to hear about them. I should take the plunge too at $25 but I just bought some shit this past week and I need to calm down.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteLookdown factor is so bad that I don't think I could do it even for $42Expand QuoteThe exp slips are $40 something on tactics. Who is gonna try em?[close][close]
Why when you can get Chimas at that price?
https://www.tactics.com/vans/chima-pro-2-skate-shoes/port-royal-true-white[close]
Because they’re cup sole?
Tempted but not a fan of that color way. May do it and run them as house/regular shoes.[close]
Someone take my wallet away, just purchased them.
I'm curious to hear about them. I should take the plunge too at $25 but I just bought some shit this past week and I need to calm down.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteLookdown factor is so bad that I don't think I could do it even for $42Expand QuoteThe exp slips are $40 something on tactics. Who is gonna try em?[close][close]
Why when you can get Chimas at that price?
https://www.tactics.com/vans/chima-pro-2-skate-shoes/port-royal-true-white[close]
Because they’re cup sole?
Tempted but not a fan of that color way. May do it and run them as house/regular shoes.[close]
Someone take my wallet away, just purchased them.[close]
yep, this tooExpand QuoteI'm curious to hear about them. I should take the plunge too at $25 but I just bought some shit this past week and I need to calm down.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteLookdown factor is so bad that I don't think I could do it even for $42Expand QuoteThe exp slips are $40 something on tactics. Who is gonna try em?[close][close]
Why when you can get Chimas at that price?
https://www.tactics.com/vans/chima-pro-2-skate-shoes/port-royal-true-white[close]
Because they’re cup sole?
Tempted but not a fan of that color way. May do it and run them as house/regular shoes.[close]
Someone take my wallet away, just purchased them.[close][close]
If it means anything a random video popped up on YouTube with a kid skating this for the first day.
http://youtu.be/dHxPTPLr_bw
yep, this tooExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI'm curious to hear about them. I should take the plunge too at $25 but I just bought some shit this past week and I need to calm down.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteLookdown factor is so bad that I don't think I could do it even for $42Expand QuoteThe exp slips are $40 something on tactics. Who is gonna try em?[close][close]
Why when you can get Chimas at that price?
https://www.tactics.com/vans/chima-pro-2-skate-shoes/port-royal-true-white[close]
Because they’re cup sole?
Tempted but not a fan of that color way. May do it and run them as house/regular shoes.[close]
Someone take my wallet away, just purchased them.[close][close]
If it means anything a random video popped up on YouTube with a kid skating this for the first day.[close]
https://www.skatedeluxe.com/blog/en/vans-slip-on-exp-pro-wear-test-review/
Vans Spring/Summer ‘20
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They need to start making non-clear soles for the AVE. It limits the good colorways to only make them translucent blue.
Expand QuoteI bet theyre all pretty good for skating, but they just dont look good in my opinion.
Also a big thing is the prize of the shoes.
here in europe you pay up to 140 for a pair of AVEs, 130 for a pair of Berle Pros
but you pay 90 for a Nike SB Blazer, 90-100 for some CTAs Pro or 100 for a Busenitz Pro[close]
I noticed this visiting Germany, I always wear Vans, but they're the most expensive of all the skate shoes over there, I'd probably be tempted to skate in Blazer GTs instead.
In the UK you're looking at £55 - £70 for Vans Pro line, then Nike & Adidas are, for the most part, £70 upward.
The Rowley SPV was great but boy did you know about it if you landed primo. That said, I used to skate Gravis all the time and there wasn't much difference between how thick their soles where. I'd love another pair. The SOLOS were banging too. I've got one pair of the dress blues colourway left that I'm tempted to skate but I also want to hang onto 'em because I can't imagine I'll find another pair.
I haven't bought the new AVE shoe but I've tried them on and they feel incredible. Really slim but feel super supportive. I'm not that into cupsoles but that's one shoe I'd make the switch from vulc for.
SPVs sucked ballzack, fell apart so fast.
AVEs skate great; sole doesn't phase me too much - really surprised. Wasn't too fond of the toebox crease, it dug in at times. I slept on the dress blues and ended up with the greens/Forrest Night; it's unlike anything in the rest of their lineup.
Didn't like the Berles, sizing felt off (too long, just like the Crockett 2s and TNT protos - it's like those three were made off the same base model or something.
Rowan is a very classic take on (like was said before) the Halfcab and the TNT SG (one of my favorite models).
Still want to skate the 112 mid and the classic mid.
Expand QuoteThe Rowley SPV was great but boy did you know about it if you landed primo. That said, I used to skate Gravis all the time and there wasn't much difference between how thick their soles where. I'd love another pair. The SOLOS were banging too. I've got one pair of the dress blues colourway left that I'm tempted to skate but I also want to hang onto 'em because I can't imagine I'll find another pair.
I haven't bought the new AVE shoe but I've tried them on and they feel incredible. Really slim but feel super supportive. I'm not that into cupsoles but that's one shoe I'd make the switch from vulc for.[close]
That’s accurate: slim/supportive. Not really padded. Mine lasted really long without showing signs of wear. Didn’t look like I skated them, which can be kinda nice to be able to wear a shoe out to the store without looking liking the dad that probably can’t skate all that great judging by how fast he isn’t moving. Actually fuck that. I’m going back to wearing busted gear all the time. Fuck fresh.
Felt like I couldn’t roll my ankle if I wanted too. Got hot soles sometimes, you are very connected to the board with those, not ‘cushy’.
Those canvas/suede Sk8 hi's(?) are HOT. Hopefully the toebox is slimmer but I highly doubt it
I'm just over here wishing I could find another pair of these shits
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Vans used to kill it so hard with the funky TNT and AV Sk8 Lo colorways
with all the old school/90s shoe instagram pages it seems like Vans always had some out the box cupsoles? just today they posted those "pro series"
then the whole rowley xlt era was fucking sick!
I got the brown suede and the black canvas. They are not very padded at all but are comfortable and have a lot of ankle support you’d expect from a hi top. They are a bit stiff in the toe cap due to the extra layer. Currently skating the brown suede sand really enjoying them. Been awhile since I’ve been in Vans. Happy thus far.Expand Quotewhich color? Pic? Is the collar padded at allExpand QuotePicked up the suede AA authentic hi’s, and they are comfy as fuck. I haven’t skated them yet but they seem like they would be durable. It’s been awhile since I’ve skated Vans and those AVEs look sick as fuck. Just couldn’t imagine dropping 100 on Vans tho....[close][close]
I have the blue canvas. It’s not padded, it is a bit stiff and the popcush feels nicer
https://www.instagram.com/p/B_qwN6Ql8Bk/?igshid=lvi7ikwmxp51
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Expand Quoteyep, this tooExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI'm curious to hear about them. I should take the plunge too at $25 but I just bought some shit this past week and I need to calm down.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteLookdown factor is so bad that I don't think I could do it even for $42Expand QuoteThe exp slips are $40 something on tactics. Who is gonna try em?[close][close]
Why when you can get Chimas at that price?
https://www.tactics.com/vans/chima-pro-2-skate-shoes/port-royal-true-white[close]
Because they’re cup sole?
Tempted but not a fan of that color way. May do it and run them as house/regular shoes.[close]
Someone take my wallet away, just purchased them.[close][close]
If it means anything a random video popped up on YouTube with a kid skating this for the first day.[close]
https://www.skatedeluxe.com/blog/en/vans-slip-on-exp-pro-wear-test-review/[close]
So it isn’t bad. I’m honestly more concerned about the mesh. They do look more like chillers.
https://skateparkoftampa.com/vans-geoff-rowley-classic-shoes-669919-black-red-82326-14760check the “anyone skated these thread?” I think someone said they fell apart walking around
Wondering if anyone has skated the Rowley classics lately or has any in depth info on them. I want to grab a pair but don’t know if the general consensus on them was feasible for the price. I love half cabs and rowans for reference. But I do want a cupsole if these are even considered cup? lol anyways should I just grab some AVE’s and save some time or give the Rowleys a spin? Thanks
https://skateparkoftampa.com/vans-geoff-rowley-classic-shoes-669919-black-red-82326-14760
Wondering if anyone has skated the Rowley classics lately or has any in depth info on them. I want to grab a pair but don’t know if the general consensus on them was feasible for the price. I love half cabs and rowans for reference. But I do want a cupsole if these are even considered cup? lol anyways should I just grab some AVE’s and save some time or give the Rowleys a spin? Thanks
https://skateparkoftampa.com/vans-geoff-rowley-classic-shoes-669919-black-red-82326-14760
Wondering if anyone has skated the Rowley classics lately or has any in depth info on them. I want to grab a pair but don’t know if the general consensus on them was feasible for the price. I love half cabs and rowans for reference. But I do want a cupsole if these are even considered cup? lol anyways should I just grab some AVE’s and save some time or give the Rowleys a spin? Thanks
https://www.instagram.com/p/B_qwN6Ql8Bk/?igshid=lvi7ikwmxp51
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Does anyone know if vans plans on releasing anymore of the aa authentic highs in the navy? Was kinda on the fence about them at first but kinda want to them a try.
Honestly vans are blowing it by not rereleasing the Rowley XLT in this tech resurgence, shoe was perfect in every way!
you got a bum pair! The only tougher vans shoes I’ve owned were the Rowley shams which were essentially a bullet proof half cab on a cupsole, I’d actually champion more for them to make a comeback but I think I’m in the minority there. The XLT at least has a bit of a cult following.Expand QuoteHonestly vans are blowing it by not rereleasing the Rowley XLT in this tech resurgence, shoe was perfect in every way![close]
I won some of those in a Damn Am contest back in like 2002. They squeaked when I walked and I blew through the bottom of the sole in what was for me, record time. I don't miss them one bit!
you got a bum pair! The only tougher vans shoes I’ve owned were the Rowley shams which were essentially a bullet proof half cab on a cupsole, I’d actually champion more for them to make a comeback but I think I’m in the minority there. The XLT at least has a bit of a cult following.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteHonestly vans are blowing it by not rereleasing the Rowley XLT in this tech resurgence, shoe was perfect in every way![close]
I won some of those in a Damn Am contest back in like 2002. They squeaked when I walked and I blew through the bottom of the sole in what was for me, record time. I don't miss them one bit![close]
Do you guys skate grip tape laced with shards of glass?
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0563/1361/products/4-30-20VansStyleBlue4.jpg?v=1588274665)i have the classics but those pros go off. usually dont do black and blue but wouldnt mind these as chillers
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Was the Ultra Range Pro (both iterations) worth it?I looked for them after a user here recommended them but I couldn't actually find any in my size in stock anywhere. I got the impression that they weren't making skateable versions currently. They have the lifestyle versions out still so hopefully they put either the 2 or the original back in the line. The same part of me that wants to try Legacy Slims wants to try the Ultra Range Pros.
I looked for them after a user here recommended them but I couldn't actually find any in my size in stock anywhere. I got the impression that they weren't making skateable versions currently. They have the lifestyle versions out still so hopefully they put either the 2 or the original back in the line. The same part of me that wants to try Legacy Slims wants to try the Ultra Range Pros.Expand QuoteWas the Ultra Range Pro (both iterations) worth it?[close]
Expand QuoteI looked for them after a user here recommended them but I couldn't actually find any in my size in stock anywhere. I got the impression that they weren't making skateable versions currently. They have the lifestyle versions out still so hopefully they put either the 2 or the original back in the line. The same part of me that wants to try Legacy Slims wants to try the Ultra Range Pros.Expand QuoteWas the Ultra Range Pro (both iterations) worth it?[close][close]
I’ve seen a few on EBay and the crappy color ways are the cheapest.
That being said at 120 not many people tried them but the online reviews say they were really good.
Hey good people, what are the experiences of the Crockett 2 and the Berle...they seem pretty similar, but read/saw a couple of reviews that said the Berle was slippy.
Hey good people, what are the experiences of the Crockett 2 and the Berle...they seem pretty similar, but read/saw a couple of reviews that said the Berle was slippy.Don't ever get Berle pros, worst shoe ever. Poor grip, bad flick and heavy af.
Hey good people, what are the experiences of the Crockett 2 and the Berle...they seem pretty similar, but read/saw a couple of reviews that said the Berle was slippy.
Expand QuoteHey good people, what are the experiences of the Crockett 2 and the Berle...they seem pretty similar, but read/saw a couple of reviews that said the Berle was slippy.[close]
Currently skating Crockett 2s, skated 6 or 7 pairs before, if not more.
They're as skatable out of the box as it gets. They're perfect after 2 sessions for me, and I can skate a pair for about 2,5 months (skating 2 to 3 times a week, doing lots of tricks that include ollies) if I put a bit of Shoe Goo on the ollie hole I get after 1/1,5 month.
They're my favourite current shoe. I usually get black with white sole (classic) or plain white ones, I just wish there were more great colourways.
Never skated Berles, I think they look bad.
I read really good things about Rowans on here but didn't like the pair I got, they felt too bulky for my liking and I had trouble with the thickness of the sole, it made flip tricks harder.
TLDR: Get Crockett 2s.
Hey good people, what are the experiences of the Crockett 2 and the Berle...they seem pretty similar, but read/saw a couple of reviews that said the Berle was slippy.I've got Crockett 2's waiting to be skated after the Berles I'm skating right now.
I've been going between a pair of Walkers and Berles. I prefer the Berles for everyday wear and just pumping around the bowl because they're pretty grippy. The Walkers are a bit better for flick. Then again, I suck at skating, so don't trust my opinion too much.
Has anyone tried the Velcro Kwalk that looks like a Janoski?
And does it have a regs insole or a big foam thing.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CDPa6Eipawx/?igshid=19kxt53bmr0tl
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yeah not in the pro skate line. borrowing ultracush though
Also, the TNT advance prototype is still being made? see a new color pop up but these were crazy cheap at the outlet
https://www.vans.com/shop/mens-shoes-skate/tnt-advanced-prototype-pumpkin-white
(https://images.vans.com/is/image/Vans/TJX1RN-HERO?$583x583$)
That shoe is fucking hideous to me, and I know why.
Expand Quoteyeah not in the pro skate line. borrowing ultracush though
Also, the TNT advance prototype is still being made? see a new color pop up but these were crazy cheap at the outlet
https://www.vans.com/shop/mens-shoes-skate/tnt-advanced-prototype-pumpkin-white[close]
Do his shoes sell like crazy or something? Cause it's really surprising to me that he's still getting pro models and people are doubting that Reynolds will get one
I basically shill for the AVE now. Found myself near a track and decided to run in circles for a while, didn’t have my running shoes, feet felt fine afterwards.I need a pair. Was waiting for some significant discount. the 30% was good but had bought too much recently to bite on em. Liking the crockett 2's cushion wise just from walking around lately.
I need a pair. Was waiting for some significant discount. the 30% was good but had bought too much recently to bite on em. Liking the crockett 2's cushion wise just from walking around lately.Expand QuoteI basically shill for the AVE now. Found myself near a track and decided to run in circles for a while, didn’t have my running shoes, feet felt fine afterwards.[close]
Expand QuoteExpand Quoteyeah not in the pro skate line. borrowing ultracush though
Also, the TNT advance prototype is still being made? see a new color pop up but these were crazy cheap at the outlet
https://www.vans.com/shop/mens-shoes-skate/tnt-advanced-prototype-pumpkin-white[close]
Do his shoes sell like crazy or something? Cause it's really surprising to me that he's still getting pro models and people are doubting that Reynolds will get one[close]
I kind of assumed it was in his contract that he gets x number of pro models, so they had to keep making them, even though he's not really a top level pro anymore. But that shoe looks disgusting, and it's been in the line a couple years now, so someone must be buying it.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quoteyeah not in the pro skate line. borrowing ultracush though
Also, the TNT advance prototype is still being made? see a new color pop up but these were crazy cheap at the outlet
https://www.vans.com/shop/mens-shoes-skate/tnt-advanced-prototype-pumpkin-white[close]
Do his shoes sell like crazy or something? Cause it's really surprising to me that he's still getting pro models and people are doubting that Reynolds will get one[close]
I kind of assumed it was in his contract that he gets x number of pro models, so they had to keep making them, even though he's not really a top level pro anymore. But that shoe looks disgusting, and it's been in the line a couple years now, so someone must be buying it.[close]
I mean no one is getting a contract like that, right?There's no way shoe companies are doing 10 pro model shoe deals, even someone like Vans.
@franc did the rowan's and crockett fit you the same? same size? Feel like crockett might run a tad longer?
i feel like the only locks for pro shoes in the future are Reynolds and Kader. those will sell super well unless Vans completely botches the design. would love to see what reynolds brings to the table in terms of a Vans shoe.
i feel like the only locks for pro shoes in the future are Reynolds and Kader. those will sell super well unless Vans completely botches the design. would love to see what reynolds brings to the table in terms of a Vans shoe.
Something like this? But modernized I could see vans dropping.
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Expand Quote@franc did the rowan's and crockett fit you the same? same size? Feel like crockett might run a tad longer?[close]
Sorry for the delayed reply.
I got both in the same size (11.5) and the Gilbies might be a tiny, tiny bit longer. Both did fit well until I tried to skate the Rowans which I didn't like at all.
For those who find vulcanized Vans to be very grippy on fliptricks, how do the AVEs compare? I skate Vans all the time, but I notice my fliptricks are a lot better in cupsoles because of slightly less tackiness. Would buy some AVEs if the flick wasn't quite as sticky as, say, my slipon pros.Yes, I can confirm that the AVEs are slightly less sticky than the pro vulcs.
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-dauRm5NsAaQ/TnGbVYWMhpI/AAAAAAAAAgI/OTiJQjGzbkI/s1600/vans-rowleyspv-view.jpgAuthentics then if they dont have collar padding. id say wearing with socks to break them in would be a better choice. maybe theyre too snug ?
Are these limited?
Sold out everywhere. I really want a pair.
Side note, i bought the era pros(or whichever one has no padding on the collar) and they are so uncomfortable. Blisters on pinky toe and heel rub. Granted i was sock-less but my intent was for some summertime shoes.
Do they get better?
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quoteyeah not in the pro skate line. borrowing ultracush though
Also, the TNT advance prototype is still being made? see a new color pop up but these were crazy cheap at the outlet
https://www.vans.com/shop/mens-shoes-skate/tnt-advanced-prototype-pumpkin-white[close]
Do his shoes sell like crazy or something? Cause it's really surprising to me that he's still getting pro models and people are doubting that Reynolds will get one[close]
I kind of assumed it was in his contract that he gets x number of pro models, so they had to keep making them, even though he's not really a top level pro anymore. But that shoe looks disgusting, and it's been in the line a couple years now, so someone must be buying it.[close]
I mean no one is getting a contract like that, right?There's no way shoe companies are doing 10 pro model shoe deals, even someone like Vans.[close]
I don't know if they're giving out deals like that anymore, but I think they did at one point. I don't know if it was 10 pro models specifically, but I don't think TNT still has a pro shoe just because of his marketability, which is nowhere near what it once was. Look at the last couple pro models P-Rod had on Nike. He wasn't exactly on top of the skate world anymore, his shoes weren't flying off the shelves, and they had newer guys who deserved it more. I assume TNT's last one or two Vans pro models are the same thing. Depending on when he signed his deal, there might have been a bidding war with another brand, or he may have just had a lot of negotiating power to get something like that written in.
This is a lot of speculation on my part, so I have no idea if it's true, but that's just the scenario that makes the most sense to me.
Those Rowley SPVs came out 9 years ago...Awww man, i thought they reissued the spv’s. They should, one of my favorites.
and yeah Authentic Pros are terrible - stay far away. Get era pros instead.
does anyone know if vans are just better now in general? i used to avoid them like the plague but i've skated rowans and old skools now and they've been pretty ight
Expand Quotedoes anyone know if vans are just better now in general? i used to avoid them like the plague but i've skated rowans and old skools now and they've been pretty ight[close]
Id be so happy if they lasted me more than 3 weeks, really want to try the Rowans out but Im afraid of buying limp dick Vans
Expand QuoteExpand Quotedoes anyone know if vans are just better now in general? i used to avoid them like the plague but i've skated rowans and old skools now and they've been pretty ight[close]
Id be so happy if they lasted me more than 3 weeks, really want to try the Rowans out but Im afraid of buying limp dick Vans[close]
The Rowans are extremely durable and don’t potato out like other Vans. Hold their shape and form well. Made from premium materials for a simple looking shoe.
does anyone know if vans are just better now in general? i used to avoid them like the plague but i've skated rowans and old skools now and they've been pretty ightCould be the new popcush? or you suggesting rubber compound, shape, etc? Rowans have that new outsole(gum rubber?) tech too
Could be the new popcush? or you suggesting rubber compound, shape, etc? Rowans have that new outsole(gum rubber?) tech tooExpand Quotedoes anyone know if vans are just better now in general? i used to avoid them like the plague but i've skated rowans and old skools now and they've been pretty ight[close]
yeah i don't really know. the overall feel is just better on my feet. used to feel all the stitching rubbing on my feet but maybe that could be attributed to a new insole with a different fit inside the shoe?Could be the new popcush? or you suggesting rubber compound, shape, etc? Rowans have that new outsole(gum rubber?) tech tooExpand Quotedoes anyone know if vans are just better now in general? i used to avoid them like the plague but i've skated rowans and old skools now and they've been pretty ight[close]
https://www.vans.com/shop/mens-skate/kyle-pro-2-antique-white
Has anybody else seen these?
Absolutely obscene.
Expand Quotehttps://www.vans.com/shop/mens-skate/kyle-pro-2-antique-white
Has anybody else seen these?
Absolutely obscene.[close]
Personally think they would've looked better without the strap.
Expand QuoteExpand Quote@franc did the rowan's and crockett fit you the same? same size? Feel like crockett might run a tad longer?[close]
Sorry for the delayed reply.
I got both in the same size (11.5) and the Gilbies might be a tiny, tiny bit longer. Both did fit well until I tried to skate the Rowans which I didn't like at all.[close]
Curious to hear what you didn't like about them? I absolutely love mine, best skate shoe I've had in years
Can't really go wrong with white, too bad i already have too much shoes
https://www.instagram.com/p/CEKdaF9HvP4/?igshid=10ppdta0vengv (https://www.instagram.com/p/CEKdaF9HvP4/?igshid=10ppdta0vengv)
My partner disagreesExpand QuoteCan't really go wrong with white, too bad i already have too much shoes[close]
There's no such thing as too many pairs of shoes...
I haven’t read this topic in its entirety but I just got some TNT Advanced over the weekend to try the 3D Lite sole. I fractured my ankle a few years ago and never let it heal properly, which caused my arch to collapse to compensate...
Never used any kind of orthotic sole because I always find they hurt the arch too much, until I learnt that its something you need to let your feet adjust to. Had a solid skate in them yesterday and my session definitely lasted a little longer! Less back pain ect so I’m gonna swap these into other shoes/buy more TNT’s. Stoked
Expand QuoteI haven’t read this topic in its entirety but I just got some TNT Advanced over the weekend to try the 3D Lite sole. I fractured my ankle a few years ago and never let it heal properly, which caused my arch to collapse to compensate...
Never used any kind of orthotic sole because I always find they hurt the arch too much, until I learnt that its something you need to let your feet adjust to. Had a solid skate in them yesterday and my session definitely lasted a little longer! Less back pain ect so I’m gonna swap these into other shoes/buy more TNT’s. Stoked[close]
The Chima 2 has the same 3D light insole as the TNT, in case you want a different kinda shoe with the same insole!
Expand Quotehttps://www.instagram.com/p/CEKdaF9HvP4/?igshid=10ppdta0vengv (https://www.instagram.com/p/CEKdaF9HvP4/?igshid=10ppdta0vengv)[close]
now pre-creased
I've been wondering, is there reason why most suede shoes are always more off white color and not bright white?I think it's because there's only so much bleach you can throw on skin before the integrity is compromised. Also, the heel panel of the AVE pros is stitched as opposed to welded - and always a slightly different shade than the vamp - I think the rapid-weld process fades the suede a little bit.
Expand QuoteI haven’t read this topic in its entirety but I just got some TNT Advanced over the weekend to try the 3D Lite sole. I fractured my ankle a few years ago and never let it heal properly, which caused my arch to collapse to compensate...
Never used any kind of orthotic sole because I always find they hurt the arch too much, until I learnt that its something you need to let your feet adjust to. Had a solid skate in them yesterday and my session definitely lasted a little longer! Less back pain ect so I’m gonna swap these into other shoes/buy more TNT’s. Stoked[close]
The Chima 2 has the same 3D light insole as the TNT, in case you want a different kinda shoe with the same insole!
Premier usually has good pics but not sure is this suede is off white or white and just a filter. not as crisp as the views above
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0563/1361/products/8-26-20VansAveProWht1.jpg?v=1598461958)
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0563/1361/products/8-26-20VansAveProWht2.jpg?v=1598461958)
Still looks wrong. Sucks you always have to have some sort of blue showing through the sole.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI haven’t read this topic in its entirety but I just got some TNT Advanced over the weekend to try the 3D Lite sole. I fractured my ankle a few years ago and never let it heal properly, which caused my arch to collapse to compensate...
Never used any kind of orthotic sole because I always find they hurt the arch too much, until I learnt that its something you need to let your feet adjust to. Had a solid skate in them yesterday and my session definitely lasted a little longer! Less back pain ect so I’m gonna swap these into other shoes/buy more TNT’s. Stoked[close]
The Chima 2 has the same 3D light insole as the TNT, in case you want a different kinda shoe with the same insole![close]
I can attest to the Chima 2 and the UltraCush 3D insole. I've mentioned in previous threads that UltraCush HD was the most unstable and painful insoles I've ever stepped on, and I can't understand how anyone walks on them let alone skate on them. 3D, on the other hand, isn't perfect but it doesn't hurt and feels much more stable.Expand QuotePremier usually has good pics but not sure is this suede is off white or white and just a filter. not as crisp as the views above
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0563/1361/products/8-26-20VansAveProWht1.jpg?v=1598461958)
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0563/1361/products/8-26-20VansAveProWht2.jpg?v=1598461958)[close]
Took them more than a year, but finally a colorway of this shoe that doesn't have a puke-inducing outsole.
Still looks wrong. Sucks you always have to have some sort of blue showing through the sole.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI haven’t read this topic in its entirety but I just got some TNT Advanced over the weekend to try the 3D Lite sole. I fractured my ankle a few years ago and never let it heal properly, which caused my arch to collapse to compensate...
Never used any kind of orthotic sole because I always find they hurt the arch too much, until I learnt that its something you need to let your feet adjust to. Had a solid skate in them yesterday and my session definitely lasted a little longer! Less back pain ect so I’m gonna swap these into other shoes/buy more TNT’s. Stoked[close]
The Chima 2 has the same 3D light insole as the TNT, in case you want a different kinda shoe with the same insole![close]
I can attest to the Chima 2 and the UltraCush 3D insole. I've mentioned in previous threads that UltraCush HD was the most unstable and painful insoles I've ever stepped on, and I can't understand how anyone walks on them let alone skate on them. 3D, on the other hand, isn't perfect but it doesn't hurt and feels much more stable.Expand QuotePremier usually has good pics but not sure is this suede is off white or white and just a filter. not as crisp as the views above
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0563/1361/products/8-26-20VansAveProWht1.jpg?v=1598461958)
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0563/1361/products/8-26-20VansAveProWht2.jpg?v=1598461958)[close]
Took them more than a year, but finally a colorway of this shoe that doesn't have a puke-inducing outsole.[close]
I swear vans will either give you a sock to skate with no tech, or go way to far like they did with the AVE or Walker 2.
Not even gonna mention changes their insole feel every few months now.
Still looks wrong. Sucks you always have to have some sort of blue showing through the sole.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI haven’t read this topic in its entirety but I just got some TNT Advanced over the weekend to try the 3D Lite sole. I fractured my ankle a few years ago and never let it heal properly, which caused my arch to collapse to compensate...
Never used any kind of orthotic sole because I always find they hurt the arch too much, until I learnt that its something you need to let your feet adjust to. Had a solid skate in them yesterday and my session definitely lasted a little longer! Less back pain ect so I’m gonna swap these into other shoes/buy more TNT’s. Stoked[close]
The Chima 2 has the same 3D light insole as the TNT, in case you want a different kinda shoe with the same insole![close]
I can attest to the Chima 2 and the UltraCush 3D insole. I've mentioned in previous threads that UltraCush HD was the most unstable and painful insoles I've ever stepped on, and I can't understand how anyone walks on them let alone skate on them. 3D, on the other hand, isn't perfect but it doesn't hurt and feels much more stable.Expand QuotePremier usually has good pics but not sure is this suede is off white or white and just a filter. not as crisp as the views above[close]
Took them more than a year, but finally a colorway of this shoe that doesn't have a puke-inducing outsole.[close]
I swear vans will either give you a sock to skate with no tech, or go way to far like they did with the AVE or Walker 2.
Not even gonna mention changes their insole feel every few months now.
My friend has the berles and i noticed every time he skates them he spends at least a quarter of the session in a dark corner picking out pebbles from the sole. Bet they'd be a great shoe at clean parks but a no no in the streets. At least he's cleaning up pebbles for the rest of us at the session.Expand QuoteStill looks wrong. Sucks you always have to have some sort of blue showing through the sole.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI haven’t read this topic in its entirety but I just got some TNT Advanced over the weekend to try the 3D Lite sole. I fractured my ankle a few years ago and never let it heal properly, which caused my arch to collapse to compensate...
Never used any kind of orthotic sole because I always find they hurt the arch too much, until I learnt that its something you need to let your feet adjust to. Had a solid skate in them yesterday and my session definitely lasted a little longer! Less back pain ect so I’m gonna swap these into other shoes/buy more TNT’s. Stoked[close]
The Chima 2 has the same 3D light insole as the TNT, in case you want a different kinda shoe with the same insole![close]
I can attest to the Chima 2 and the UltraCush 3D insole. I've mentioned in previous threads that UltraCush HD was the most unstable and painful insoles I've ever stepped on, and I can't understand how anyone walks on them let alone skate on them. 3D, on the other hand, isn't perfect but it doesn't hurt and feels much more stable.Expand QuotePremier usually has good pics but not sure is this suede is off white or white and just a filter. not as crisp as the views above[close]
Took them more than a year, but finally a colorway of this shoe that doesn't have a puke-inducing outsole.[close]
I swear vans will either give you a sock to skate with no tech, or go way to far like they did with the AVE or Walker 2.
Not even gonna mention changes their insole feel every few months now.[close]
The in-between shoe where it isn't a sock, but they didn't fall over themselves to make you look at the tech is the Berle. Everyone says it looks like a Kohls shoe, and they're right; but it does have some tech in it, and it still looks way better than the AVE shoe, which is seemingly a great shoe that is totally ruined by its appearance.
My friend has the berles and i noticed every time he skates them he spends at least a quarter of the session in a dark corner picking out pebbles from the sole. Bet they'd be a great shoe at clean parks but a no no in the streets. At least he's cleaning up pebbles for the rest of us at the session.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteStill looks wrong. Sucks you always have to have some sort of blue showing through the sole.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI haven’t read this topic in its entirety but I just got some TNT Advanced over the weekend to try the 3D Lite sole. I fractured my ankle a few years ago and never let it heal properly, which caused my arch to collapse to compensate...
Never used any kind of orthotic sole because I always find they hurt the arch too much, until I learnt that its something you need to let your feet adjust to. Had a solid skate in them yesterday and my session definitely lasted a little longer! Less back pain ect so I’m gonna swap these into other shoes/buy more TNT’s. Stoked[close]
The Chima 2 has the same 3D light insole as the TNT, in case you want a different kinda shoe with the same insole![close]
I can attest to the Chima 2 and the UltraCush 3D insole. I've mentioned in previous threads that UltraCush HD was the most unstable and painful insoles I've ever stepped on, and I can't understand how anyone walks on them let alone skate on them. 3D, on the other hand, isn't perfect but it doesn't hurt and feels much more stable.Expand QuotePremier usually has good pics but not sure is this suede is off white or white and just a filter. not as crisp as the views above[close]
Took them more than a year, but finally a colorway of this shoe that doesn't have a puke-inducing outsole.[close]
I swear vans will either give you a sock to skate with no tech, or go way to far like they did with the AVE or Walker 2.
Not even gonna mention changes their insole feel every few months now.[close]
The in-between shoe where it isn't a sock, but they didn't fall over themselves to make you look at the tech is the Berle. Everyone says it looks like a Kohls shoe, and they're right; but it does have some tech in it, and it still looks way better than the AVE shoe, which is seemingly a great shoe that is totally ruined by its appearance.[close]
Expand QuoteMy friend has the berles and i noticed every time he skates them he spends at least a quarter of the session in a dark corner picking out pebbles from the sole. Bet they'd be a great shoe at clean parks but a no no in the streets. At least he's cleaning up pebbles for the rest of us at the session.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteStill looks wrong. Sucks you always have to have some sort of blue showing through the sole.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI haven’t read this topic in its entirety but I just got some TNT Advanced over the weekend to try the 3D Lite sole. I fractured my ankle a few years ago and never let it heal properly, which caused my arch to collapse to compensate...
Never used any kind of orthotic sole because I always find they hurt the arch too much, until I learnt that its something you need to let your feet adjust to. Had a solid skate in them yesterday and my session definitely lasted a little longer! Less back pain ect so I’m gonna swap these into other shoes/buy more TNT’s. Stoked[close]
The Chima 2 has the same 3D light insole as the TNT, in case you want a different kinda shoe with the same insole![close]
I can attest to the Chima 2 and the UltraCush 3D insole. I've mentioned in previous threads that UltraCush HD was the most unstable and painful insoles I've ever stepped on, and I can't understand how anyone walks on them let alone skate on them. 3D, on the other hand, isn't perfect but it doesn't hurt and feels much more stable.Expand QuotePremier usually has good pics but not sure is this suede is off white or white and just a filter. not as crisp as the views above[close]
Took them more than a year, but finally a colorway of this shoe that doesn't have a puke-inducing outsole.[close]
I swear vans will either give you a sock to skate with no tech, or go way to far like they did with the AVE or Walker 2.
Not even gonna mention changes their insole feel every few months now.[close]
The in-between shoe where it isn't a sock, but they didn't fall over themselves to make you look at the tech is the Berle. Everyone says it looks like a Kohls shoe, and they're right; but it does have some tech in it, and it still looks way better than the AVE shoe, which is seemingly a great shoe that is totally ruined by its appearance.[close][close]
Yeah, nobody likes that shoe at all, eh? Like, not even the guy whose name is on it. I really wanted to like it because most cupsoles on the market right now look like either 2002 DC's or baseball coach shoes; but it didn't fit me properly, and nobody that bought it seems satisfied with it.
Hey so wasn't sure which thread to ask this but maybe someone will respond here
Anyone know where can get a pair of size 9 half cab pro's in the the U.S?
I'm an Aussie asking for a "friend " in the states
Any help be appreciated :)
Expand QuoteHey so wasn't sure which thread to ask this but maybe someone will respond here
Anyone know where can get a pair of size 9 half cab pro's in the the U.S?
I'm an Aussie asking for a "friend " in the states
Any help be appreciated :)[close]
You can get a size 9 Half Cab pros almost any shop site or on the Vans site
https://www.tactics.com/search/vans+half+cab+pro+skate+shoes (https://www.tactics.com/search/vans+half+cab+pro+skate+shoes)
Tactics has size 9 in the OG colorway and green tan colorway
These are dope, they have size 9
https://www.561skateboarding.com/collections/frontpage/products/vans-half-cab-pro-surplus-black-military?variant=32079030878278 (https://www.561skateboarding.com/collections/frontpage/products/vans-half-cab-pro-surplus-black-military?variant=32079030878278)
Zappos has 9 in og black
https://www.zappos.com/p/vans-half-cab-pro-black-black-white/product/7418942/color/552963 (https://www.zappos.com/p/vans-half-cab-pro-black-black-white/product/7418942/color/552963)
Vans store has surplus colorway and og black in size 9
https://www.vans.com/shop/mens-shoes-skate/surplus-half-cab-pro-black-military (https://www.vans.com/shop/mens-shoes-skate/surplus-half-cab-pro-black-military)
Take your pick homie
Ive gotten shoes from all theses sites, all legit
Sole is functionally the same as the low
Its the same. Source: I've had both.Expand QuoteSole is functionally the same as the low[close]
Functionally the same? Is it different? Thought it was a Wafflecup deal too.
popcush feels denser and didn't pack out in my 3 months with the rowans compared to ultracush. But if you told me it was in my head, I might not put up a fight.
Pop cush is the same as ultracush
these new crockett high tops are my favorite shoes of the year. waffle cup is legit. my heel feels so locked in!how does the upper break in? Start stiff? the black teal is sick
popcush feels denser and didn't pack out in my 3 months with the rowans compared to ultracush. But if you told me it was in my head, I might not put up a fight.
Pop cush is the same as ultracush
Ive been looking for those crockett hi’s, don’t think they’ve made it to Australia yet...they seem really good...are they cup all the way or cup/vulc mix?
I haven't worn Vans in a while but those white/blue Crockett quasi's got me jazzed up. What's the word on sizing for those compared to regular authentics etc?TTS
Expand QuoteIve been looking for those crockett hi’s, don’t think they’ve made it to Australia yet...they seem really good...are they cup all the way or cup/vulc mix?[close]
they call it Wafflecup
some sort of hybrid between vulc and cup
feels like a more durable vulc / better cushioning with a quicker break in phase than a classic cup
less board feel obviously
TTSExpand QuoteI haven't worn Vans in a while but those white/blue Crockett quasi's got me jazzed up. What's the word on sizing for those compared to regular authentics etc?[close]
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteIve been looking for those crockett hi’s, don’t think they’ve made it to Australia yet...they seem really good...are they cup all the way or cup/vulc mix?[close]
they call it Wafflecup
some sort of hybrid between vulc and cup
feels like a more durable vulc / better cushioning with a quicker break in phase than a classic cup
less board feel obviously[close]
I've only skated in vulcs these last 15 years, am really picky when it comes to board feel and think Wafflecups don't take long to break in. Wear them to work for a week, skate them twice and they're perfect. The board feel is excellent.
Wafflecup is the best thing that ever happened to VansExpand QuoteExpand QuoteIve been looking for those crockett hi’s, don’t think they’ve made it to Australia yet...they seem really good...are they cup all the way or cup/vulc mix?[close]
they call it Wafflecup
some sort of hybrid between vulc and cup
feels like a more durable vulc / better cushioning with a quicker break in phase than a classic cup
less board feel obviously[close]
I've only skated in vulcs these last 15 years, am really picky when it comes to board feel and think Wafflecups don't take long to break in. Wear them to work for a week, skate them twice and they're perfect. The board feel is excellent.
Wafflecup is the best thing that ever happened to Vans
Are the Gilberts heel area stiff/uncomfy as say Chima 2's?not on the lows. Haven’t tried the high
I'd like to try the Crockett 2s, or highs for that matters
After riding the rowley classics for about 2 months and saving it as much as possible with shoe goo, i pulled the trigger on a white/gum pair of rowans. I know it gets some harsh reviews...but the Rowley classics i had, which i wouldnt classify as a skate shoe were really good for me...so I’m thinking i may be looking for different things in shoes.
Should get them tomorrow...hoping it works out!
Does anyone know if the Quasi Crockets are going to be sold by Vans ever? 13s apparently are sold out on the Quasi site. Sorry if this is a dumb question but new to this the-board-company-sells-the-shoes thing.As of right now, Cowtown has your size (in the black/teal)
As of right now, Cowtown has your size (in the black/teal)Expand QuoteDoes anyone know if the Quasi Crockets are going to be sold by Vans ever? 13s apparently are sold out on the Quasi site. Sorry if this is a dumb question but new to this the-board-company-sells-the-shoes thing.[close]
https://www.cowtownskateboards.com/product_detail.cfm?CatID=10&PID=56818&SKU=157704&LinkID=1
Rowans are by far the best skate shoe I’ve had all year. I usually blow through shoes every two or three weeks but these are lasting.they would be foolish to discontinue them anytime soon. Seriously the best vans shoe in terms of durablility
i skated mine for close to 2.5 months straight and i'm about to skate them again. just hoping the sole didn't get much thinner than i remember... that would be the only thing stopping me.they would be foolish to discontinue them anytime soon. Seriously the best vans shoe in terms of durablilityExpand QuoteRowans are by far the best skate shoe I’ve had all year. I usually blow through shoes every two or three weeks but these are lasting.[close]
i skated mine for close to 2.5 months straight and i'm about to skate them again. just hoping the sole didn't get much thinner than i remember... that would be the only thing stopping me.Expand Quotethey would be foolish to discontinue them anytime soon. Seriously the best vans shoe in terms of durablilityExpand QuoteRowans are by far the best skate shoe I’ve had all year. I usually blow through shoes every two or three weeks but these are lasting.[close][close]
I only stopped skating my first pair after 3 months because I was tired of looking down at the same shoe. Skating another colorway of Rowans now.Expand Quotei skated mine for close to 2.5 months straight and i'm about to skate them again. just hoping the sole didn't get much thinner than i remember... that would be the only thing stopping me.Expand Quotethey would be foolish to discontinue them anytime soon. Seriously the best vans shoe in terms of durablilityExpand QuoteRowans are by far the best skate shoe I’ve had all year. I usually blow through shoes every two or three weeks but these are lasting.[close][close][close]
I've been skating mine since quarantine started and they look beat but still feel solid
Rowan getting the cool colourways (Port/White, Bronze/Antique), Gilbert getting weird ones nobody wants (Hedge Green with a dark gum sole, fuck me).i know, I like the crockett 2's alot as well. Seems like they focused on the hi model this season i guess. and KWalker got like 3-4 colors of his first model plus a few in his 2nd.
Too bad Gilbies are my favorite shoes but I can't skate in Rowans (and yes, I have tried). Been dreaming of a beige/brown/bronze Gilbert with white sole for years. Oh well.
Rowan getting the cool colourways (Port/White, Bronze/Antique), Gilbert getting weird ones nobody wants (Hedge Green with a dark gum sole, fuck me).To be fair, that new Crockett 2 colorway looks like something he would wear. I really like them myself but I can definitely understand why you wouldn't.
Too bad Gilbies are my favorite shoes but I can't skate in Rowans (and yes, I have tried). Been dreaming of a beige/brown/bronze Gilbert with white sole for years. Oh well.
), Gilbert getting weird ones nobody wants (Hedge Green with a dark gum sole, fuck me).
If Vans would put out this colour in the Gilby High I'd be very happy....yeah that would be sick. With extra black laces
(https://i.imgur.com/HvjN6xG.png)
It's not an unreasonable wish either, I could see it happening anyway.
Probably not going to happen, but if they made the Berle in a mid or high I'd be a repeat buyer. I know some people weren't into them but I found them to be my favorite Vans "pros".Ew
EwExpand QuoteProbably not going to happen, but if they made the Berle in a mid or high I'd be a repeat buyer. I know some people weren't into them but I found them to be my favorite Vans "pros".[close]
Expand Quote), Gilbert getting weird ones nobody wants (Hedge Green with a dark gum sole, fuck me).[close]
Ordered the first day it was available and fucking love them. Thanks!
Expand QuoteEwExpand QuoteProbably not going to happen, but if they made the Berle in a mid or high I'd be a repeat buyer. I know some people weren't into them but I found them to be my favorite Vans "pros".[close][close]
Username checks out
Edit: jk Idk I havent tried the Berle pros, Ive read some bad things on here but with all the colorways coming out they must be selling a lot. EliJAH is a douche, Id rather buy a product with Gilby or Chima's name on it.
Agreed, black soles is a mind fuck for meExpand QuoteExpand Quote), Gilbert getting weird ones nobody wants (Hedge Green with a dark gum sole, fuck me).[close]
Ordered the first day it was available and fucking love them. Thanks![close]
Haha, each to their own! Glad you like the, glad some people like skating in them.
Just started skating a pair of those green Half Cab Pros that came out last spring I think, loving this colourway. I wish Vans made something similar but with more beige bits, like that old Carroll pro shoe inspired by Airwalk Enigmas, with a white sole though. I can't wear black soles.
(https://www.dressinn.com/f/13734/137347162/vans-half-cab-pro.jpg)
(https://illpaper.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/8-VANS-Carroll.jpg)
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Expand QuoteExpand QuoteEwExpand QuoteProbably not going to happen, but if they made the Berle in a mid or high I'd be a repeat buyer. I know some people weren't into them but I found them to be my favorite Vans "pros".[close][close]
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Edit: jk Idk I havent tried the Berle pros, Ive read some bad things on here but with all the colorways coming out they must be selling a lot. EliJAH is a douche, Id rather buy a product with Gilby or Chima's name on it.[close]
If you're not put off by the look, they're worth trying. A couple of the colorways are offensive but I like the black/white. Other than laces ripping they've held up really well.
They have a slip on with that same outsole.
It does feel like a cupsole shoe. One of the biggest issues is the fact that it attracts pebbles like a magnet.
Imagine if you setup into dog poopExpand QuoteThey have a slip on with that same outsole.
It does feel like a cupsole shoe. One of the biggest issues is the fact that it attracts pebbles like a magnet.[close]
100% on the pebbles. (Un)fortunately I've been a park rat since moving to a new area, but it can be a pain when skating street.
One of the bigger weaknesses. The flick takes getting used to but I enjoyed walking around in my pair.Imagine if you setup into dog poopExpand QuoteExpand QuoteThey have a slip on with that same outsole.
It does feel like a cupsole shoe. One of the biggest issues is the fact that it attracts pebbles like a magnet.[close]
100% on the pebbles. (Un)fortunately I've been a park rat since moving to a new area, but it can be a pain when skating street.[close]
God forbid.
How is the board feel with those Berle Pros compared to Crocketts or Half Cabs?To anybody wanting to try Berle pro: DON'T.
I don't really want to give Eli Berle any money but they remind me of the first Emerica JTs in a good way.
(https://images.vans.com/is/image/Vans/WKX6BT-HERO?$583x583$)
To anybody wanting to try Berle pro: DON'T.Expand QuoteHow is the board feel with those Berle Pros compared to Crocketts or Half Cabs?
I don't really want to give Eli Berle any money but they remind me of the first Emerica JTs in a good way.[close]
Weird flick, heavy af, weird and awkward sole which is a pebble magnet.
Thanks gents. I'll stick to Half Cab Pros and Gilbies then.If you go to an outlet for Gibert and cabs and they offer you a free pair pick them up. Even if you hate them, they’ll be comfortable
Oh I would buy this colorway in a heartbeat. I could see it happening too, they did two similar colorways with the lows.yeah that would be sick. With extra black lacesExpand QuoteIf Vans would put out this colour in the Gilby High I'd be very happy....
(https://i.imgur.com/HvjN6xG.png)
It's not an unreasonable wish either, I could see it happening anyway.[close]
To anybody wanting to try Berle pro: DON'T.Expand QuoteHow is the board feel with those Berle Pros compared to Crocketts or Half Cabs?
I don't really want to give Eli Berle any money but they remind me of the first Emerica JTs in a good way.
[img]https://images.vans.com/is/image/Vans/WKX6BT-HERO?$583x583$[img][close]
Weird flick, heavy af, weird and awkward sole which is a pebble magnet.
I love getting colorways from past seasons from the Vans site for cheap. By the time I skate them, nobody else has them and there's something I like about that for some reason. Maybe it's that feeling of having something exclusive and getting it for a good price, like a double win or something, haha.those were discounted on vans.com? Really clean pair.
Just got those grey Half Cab Pros, stoked on them but I haven't had grey shoes in decades and am not sure about how I'll feel looking at them while skating. Put white laces on for extra OG Half Cab power. Hhmm...
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0038/9709/8293/products/[email protected]?v=1578074513)
The pebble magnet aspect is the ONLY thing I dislike about this shoe personally. Where I live is crusty as hell so it is a problem, but this time of year I have to sweep my spots so it hasn't been as bad of an issue the last couple sessions. Everything else about the shoe works good for me.Expand QuoteTo anybody wanting to try Berle pro: DON'T.Expand QuoteHow is the board feel with those Berle Pros compared to Crocketts or Half Cabs?
I don't really want to give Eli Berle any money but they remind me of the first Emerica JTs in a good way.
[img]https://images.vans.com/is/image/Vans/WKX6BT-HERO?$583x583$[img][close]
Weird flick, heavy af, weird and awkward sole which is a pebble magnet.[close]
Disagree on all of the above except for pebble magnet, but to each their own. I'm not gear-nerd enough to weigh them, but they feel lighter than half cabs with about the same board feel. Can't speak to the Crocketts.
those were discounted on vans.com? Really clean pair.
How long does it take you guys for the half cab pros to mold to your feet shape?
First time vans and half cab pros for me.
I love getting colorways from past seasons from the Vans site for cheap. By the time I skate them, nobody else has them and there's something I like about that for some reason. Maybe it's that feeling of having something exclusive and getting it for a good price, like a double win or something, haha.
Just got those grey Half Cab Pros, stoked on them but I haven't had grey shoes in decades and am not sure about how I'll feel looking at them while skating. Put white laces on for extra OG Half Cab power. Hhmm...
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0038/9709/8293/products/[email protected]?v=1578074513)
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those were discounted on vans.com? Really clean pair.[close]
I got them from the Euro site as I live in Switzerland. Got a pair of the green ones from last spring's collection too. 30% off. Stoked.
(https://www.companybe.com/Uprise/product_photos/rd_images/rd_Feb20VansHalfCabLizardEucalyptus2.jpg)
how are the half cabs pros as chillers? havent owned a pair since middle school or so, dont remember how they feel at all.
scared of going back to skating vulcs with my scoliosis, herniated disc, and at risk knees. wouldnt mind them as shit kickers if they are semi comfortable though
just put some Lunarlon in my Rowans and whew boy what a difference!!! that shit FUCKSswapping out the vans pro insoles for lunarlon insoles has been my go-to move for a couple years now. Perfect match. Too bad lunarlon is no longer in production.
I was thinking the opposite - Berle has a unique sole design. Rowan's shoe has the same thing as team models but they're pretending its new tech by changing the name to pop cush and claiming a new rubber formula (which if it were different/better, they'd use it on all the models, not just his.)Expand QuoteIt’s funny how the Rowan looks like Rowan took the time to come up with a shoe with the design team while the Berle looks like the design department came up with something and gave it to him.[close]
it is absolutely identical100% agree. Tried on two different KWalks at a Vans outlet in January. One Pop Cush and one Ultracush. Pop felt only marginally better for the first 30 seconds to a minute, then they felt exactly like Ultracush.
Trying on for at a shoe vs skating a shoe to completion is different. Might be a placebo but my Rowans haven't mushed out after 2 months of skating while ultra used to flatten out for me at about a month mark. Still might be marketing but your first impression comparison doesn't prove it.100% agree. Tried on two different KWalks at a Vans outlet in January. One Pop Cush and one Ultracush. Pop felt only marginally better for the first 30 seconds to a minute, then they felt exactly like Ultracush.Expand Quoteit is absolutely identical[close]
For anyone thinking Pop cush is drastically better/different from Ultra, don't be fooled by the marketing!
Trying on for at a shoe vs skating a shoe to completion is different. Might be a placebo but my Rowans haven't mushed out after 2 months of skating while ultra used to flatten out for me at about a month mark. Still might be marketing but your first impression comparison doesn't prove it.Expand Quote100% agree. Tried on two different KWalks at a Vans outlet in January. One Pop Cush and one Ultracush. Pop felt only marginally better for the first 30 seconds to a minute, then they felt exactly like Ultracush.Expand Quoteit is absolutely identical[close]
For anyone thinking Pop cush is drastically better/different from Ultra, don't be fooled by the marketing![close]
Welp I don't know what to think then. Maybe our feets and weight distrobution just are completely different. Fuck I'm gonna rethink all my life decisions now.Expand QuoteTrying on for at a shoe vs skating a shoe to completion is different. Might be a placebo but my Rowans haven't mushed out after 2 months of skating while ultra used to flatten out for me at about a month mark. Still might be marketing but your first impression comparison doesn't prove it.Expand Quote100% agree. Tried on two different KWalks at a Vans outlet in January. One Pop Cush and one Ultracush. Pop felt only marginally better for the first 30 seconds to a minute, then they felt exactly like Ultracush.Expand Quoteit is absolutely identical[close]
For anyone thinking Pop cush is drastically better/different from Ultra, don't be fooled by the marketing![close][close]
I've been re-using the same ultra cush insoles for about 9 months in different shoes.
There's no flattening out
I've done this w/ other ultra cush hd insoles for the past 5 years (they usually last about a year)
There's negligible amounts of flattening out, they just get crusty.
The pop cush in the Rowans packed out after about 2 months.
So basically, I have the exact opposite experience as you have had.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CHJTR5nl1aa/?igshid=8tvp9m43y5c1
wasn't Bam rocking those purple Half-Cabs for awhile?
https://www.instagram.com/p/CHJTR5nl1aa/?igshid=8tvp9m43y5c1
https://www.instagram.com/p/CHLZ38flb95/?igshid=61f3ewuc7c2z
wasn't Bam rocking those purple Half-Cabs for awhile?
Put me in jail, I like the purple Half Cabs.
Yeah, they're gonna make em a cupsole and slap Reynolds' name on em.You under arrest, sugar.Expand QuotePut me in jail, I like the purple Half Cabs.[close]
Is there any update on Half-Cab Pros without the foxing stripe, that resemble the normal ones? Saw that awhile back.
Holy shit, I need these.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CHyIWs9Af6W/
I tried out the Rowans , the first session out the box had a great time skating in them and they felt amazing.
The upper part is A+, probably my favorite vans besides the Tnt 5 nubuck leather, the way they grip the top of my foot feels amazing and I love the laces, I can see them lasting a long time.
My one thing though is that damn Vans sole, I will never get past how soft and thin that Vans sole gets, its instantly feels weak under my feet and every damn bail hurts. I just cant understand why they cant make a stronger sole that can take a true impact. Compared to my Tyshawns it felt like i was skating paper shoes, i know its a cupsole compared to vulcanized but you know what I mean, Vans soles blow out in 3 weeks tops. I can only skate them once a month like a fun way to switch up the boardfeel or to the liquor store. Love em but hate em, classic california style
so far the ave pro are up there with the most durable shoes i've ever skated, obviously will depend on where your ollie spot is but for me the mesh is basically unaffected after 2 months of frequent skating and the soles still have lots of life
I have 7 pairs of Crockett hi’s (mostly quasi editions)
2 pair of half cabs pros
5 pairs of Rowans
1 pair of AVE
& 2 pair of style 36 pros to blow through....
Vans has me by the balls :o
new AVE pro, first time theyve done split color blocking
(https://images.vans.com/is/image/Vans/BT7HR0-HERO?$583x583$)
wasn't Bam rocking those purple Half-Cabs for awhile?
I know it’s been talked about already but, I’m skating the Rowans. I got them at the Outlet and got the khaki/black foxing tape. I usually go for white foxing tape but got these for free, not sure if it affects anything but... fuck the flick is good. I went from the Fastbreak to these and they’re good. The first kickflip I did felt good and it’s stayed like that. It looks a little weird and so is the weird mid cut. But overall it’s a good feeling skate shoe. I’m a fan.
I want to get those purple half cabs and chuck some white laces in them. They remind me of the purple chukkas Tim Gavin skates in Tim & Henry’s.
The AVEs are so close to being a perfect Van's shoe for me. The sole is good (performance-wise, looks with the translucent thing aside) and they look good/feel comfortable. Flick is good and consistent. However, the mesh is in some stupid spots and is stupid thin (hurts if something hits you there), the heel/ankle collar has almost no padding so it feels flimsy and not as supportive back there as I'd like. Basically, the shoes feel kinda dainty for what I thought they were going to be.I’ll take the pain, accidents happen. But as a fan of heelflips, the collar doesn’t feel as durable as the rest of the shoe. My sole went bald and the grip wasn’t affected.
The AVEs are so close to being a perfect Van's shoe for me. The sole is good (performance-wise, looks with the translucent thing aside) and they look good/feel comfortable. Flick is good and consistent. However, the mesh is in some stupid spots and is stupid thin (hurts if something hits you there), the heel/ankle collar has almost no padding so it feels flimsy and not as supportive back there as I'd like. Basically, the shoes feel kinda dainty for what I thought they were going to be.
Expand QuoteI want to get those purple half cabs and chuck some white laces in them. They remind me of the purple chukkas Tim Gavin skates in Tim & Henry’s.[close]
https://thepremierstore.com/products/chukka-49-dx-anaheim-factory
I thought the same thing. Turns out you can even get a step closer! These need to be in constant rotation IMO
That's dope! Would be an instant buy for menot really. Looks thoroughly stitched in might have better luck cutting it cleanly along the stitching edge.
I almost have gotten the Kyle walkers 2 times and the big ass patch on the tongue has talked me out of it
It would probably be easy to remove you think?
Shitty photoshop to convince vans to make a move.looks good.. good enough to buy
(https://i.imgur.com/messDHs.jpg)
Didn't they make low cabs that were cupsoles years back? I remember scott kane maybe had a colorway.
Expand QuoteDidn't they make low cabs that were cupsoles years back? I remember scott kane maybe had a colorway.[close]
They did. That sole was shit
https://sneakernews.com/2009/04/21/vans-low-cab-croc-suede-blue-black-red/
That's dope! Would be an instant buy for me
I almost have gotten the Kyle walkers 2 times and the big ass patch on the tongue has talked me out of it
It would probably be easy to remove you think?
nice work, way better. thread puller?Expand QuoteThat's dope! Would be an instant buy for me
I almost have gotten the Kyle walkers 2 times and the big ass patch on the tongue has talked me out of it
It would probably be easy to remove you think?[close]
I never noticed how much I didn't like it until you mentioned it...
Wasn't hard to remove, took less than 10 mins total for both shoes. I just pulled out the stitches from the front with a blade. Only lame part is the rivets are real, I ripped 'em out but it did leave two tiny holes. Probably just going to toss a dab of shoe goo on it.
They're great shoes, these are my third pair. Not as bulky as the Berle's and doesn't have the 'pebble magnet' sole either (literally would carry one of those metal dab tools to pry rocks out at the spot). I would consider them on the wide end of a medium width and TTS.
shalom and free max b
nice work, way better. thread puller?Expand QuoteExpand QuoteThat's dope! Would be an instant buy for me
I almost have gotten the Kyle walkers 2 times and the big ass patch on the tongue has talked me out of it
It would probably be easy to remove you think?[close]
I never noticed how much I didn't like it until you mentioned it...
Wasn't hard to remove, took less than 10 mins total for both shoes. I just pulled out the stitches from the front with a blade. Only lame part is the rivets are real, I ripped 'em out but it did leave two tiny holes. Probably ju
st going to toss a dab of shoe goo on it.
They're great shoes, these are my third pair. Not as bulky as the Berle's and doesn't have the 'pebble magnet' sole either (literally would carry one of those metal dab tools to pry rocks out at the spot). I would consider them on the wide end of a medium width and TTS.
shalom and free max b[close]
I wish Van’s would release the full cab pro again minus the goofy faux animal skin. I am stoked on the Rowley Pro being out again though, gonna have to cop a few pairs.
Expand QuoteI wish Van’s would release the full cab pro again minus the goofy faux animal skin. I am stoked on the Rowley Pro being out again though, gonna have to cop a few pairs.[close]
The synthetic material of the OG Rowleys were a bit of a pain and would shred easily, but the new versions seem like he is back on the meat wagon, full suede and works well. The sole is thinner in the new Rowley shoe though, with only the thin fixed insole, but that might appeal to some people as well, but might be a pain to others.
https://www.vans.com/shop/mens-shoes-skate/rowley-rapidweld-pro-navy-white#hero=4Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI wish Van’s would release the full cab pro again minus the goofy faux animal skin. I am stoked on the Rowley Pro being out again though, gonna have to cop a few pairs.[close]
The synthetic material of the OG Rowleys were a bit of a pain and would shred easily, but the new versions seem like he is back on the meat wagon, full suede and works well. The sole is thinner in the new Rowley shoe though, with only the thin fixed insole, but that might appeal to some people as well, but might be a pain to others.[close]
I usually prefer the ultracush insoles but I’ll still give the new ones a try. I think the Rowley Pro is one of the best looking shoes ever.
I’ve got both the rowley rapidweld and some crocket 2s (ultracush) in rotation at the moment.It does, thank you. Rowley's look mighty tempting but I need to keep my head in the game skating through all the shoes i have already.
The rowley definitely feels slightly thinner in the sole and overall more lightweight. They definitely feel more supportive and “tech” than a regular vans pro classic show though. The Crockett s feel slightly thicker in the forefoot and slightly cusher round the heel.
Hope that makes sense.
Damn I want those rowleys. Had xlts when I was a kid. And they ripped so fast. My mom was so bummed. I want these but I got crocketts coming.
https://www.vans.com/shop/mens-shoes-skate/rowley-rapidweld-pro-navy-white#hero=4Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI wish Van’s would release the full cab pro again minus the goofy faux animal skin. I am stoked on the Rowley Pro being out again though, gonna have to cop a few pairs.[close]
The synthetic material of the OG Rowleys were a bit of a pain and would shred easily, but the new versions seem like he is back on the meat wagon, full suede and works well. The sole is thinner in the new Rowley shoe though, with only the thin fixed insole, but that might appeal to some people as well, but might be a pain to others.[close]
I usually prefer the ultracush insoles but I’ll still give the new ones a try. I think the Rowley Pro is one of the best looking shoes ever.[close]
This version is a waffle cup with ultracush according to the site. Does it feel thin? I have a pair of the crockett highs and I love the feeling of the sole. wondering if we have the same metric for what feels thin.
Expand QuoteExpand Quote), Gilbert getting weird ones nobody wants (Hedge Green with a dark gum sole, fuck me).[close]
Ordered the first day it was available and fucking love them. Thanks![close]
Haha, each to their own! Glad you like the, glad some people like skating in them.
Just started skating a pair of those green Half Cab Pros that came out last spring I think, loving this colourway. I wish Vans made something similar but with more beige bits, like that old Carroll pro shoe inspired by Airwalk Enigmas, with a white sole though. I can't wear black soles.
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-4H3v44nJI7E/WnECssjEptI/AAAAAAAAfqE/GHPO0Gsb2tI5pMtKJjvc4BhzIy2sF5dvQCLcBGAs/s400/thisoneagain.jpg)
I bought some half cab pros. What aftermarket insoles do you all switch out the pop Cush for?
Anyone skated a pair of the Vans Pro wrapped?I skated them, honestly I didn’t feel a difference but they were good, skated normal to me, and I loved old skools
They have the extra bit of rubber wrapped round the whole upper of the shoe, not as much as the 112 or other versions with the full toe cap but definitely a bit more than the usual versions, which I just saw on vans.com.au but seem like they have been out everywhere else for a month or so.
(https://i.ibb.co/Tv0qGZL/Vans-pro-wrapped-02.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Tv0qGZL)
(https://i.ibb.co/mtGM4bt/Vans-pro-wrapped-01.jpg) (https://ibb.co/mtGM4bt)
I found the Uprise instagram post with pics here, seems they are in old skool and authentic:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CHRPFL3pJAu/
I skated them, honestly I didn’t feel a difference but they were good, skated normal to me, and I loved old skoolsExpand QuoteAnyone skated a pair of the Vans Pro wrapped?
They have the extra bit of rubber wrapped round the whole upper of the shoe, not as much as the 112 or other versions with the full toe cap but definitely a bit more than the usual versions, which I just saw on vans.com.au but seem like they have been out everywhere else for a month or so.
(https://i.ibb.co/Tv0qGZL/Vans-pro-wrapped-02.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Tv0qGZL)
(https://i.ibb.co/mtGM4bt/Vans-pro-wrapped-01.jpg) (https://ibb.co/mtGM4bt)
I found the Uprise instagram post with pics here, seems they are in old skool and authentic:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CHRPFL3pJAu/[close]
I bought some half cab pros. What aftermarket insoles do you all switch out the pop Cush for?
the 5mm version?Expand QuoteI bought some half cab pros. What aftermarket insoles do you all switch out the pop Cush for?[close]
I use FP Gamechangers, the PopCush feels too damn high in the heel for me. Tried them in Berle's, Kwalks, Old Schools and Sk8 Hi's and all were a great fit.
Yep! I'm a fan. They are hard as hell but I feel way less foot fatigue. In my mid30s fwiw.the 5mm version?Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI bought some half cab pros. What aftermarket insoles do you all switch out the pop Cush for?[close]
I use FP Gamechangers, the PopCush feels too damn high in the heel for me. Tried them in Berle's, Kwalks, Old Schools and Sk8 Hi's and all were a great fit.[close]
Expand QuoteI bought some half cab pros. What aftermarket insoles do you all switch out the pop Cush for?[close]
I would be curious to know how many people do actually switch them out and how many just ride them as is.
I have often heard others pull them straight out and use Footprint elite, Remind or similar, even recycle some older ones from the flatter insoles rather than the highly contoured ones in Vans pro now (as I do) but if they don't feel comfortable, often use older insoles until the shoe is nicely worn in and then put the new ones in to last out the life of the shoe.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI bought some half cab pros. What aftermarket insoles do you all switch out the pop Cush for?[close]
I would be curious to know how many people do actually switch them out and how many just ride them as is.
I have often heard others pull them straight out and use Footprint elite, Remind or similar, even recycle some older ones from the flatter insoles rather than the highly contoured ones in Vans pro now (as I do) but if they don't feel comfortable, often use older insoles until the shoe is nicely worn in and then put the new ones in to last out the life of the shoe.[close]
For me the Pop Cush is difficult because the heel is so high and the ball and toe bed are so low and flat that it puts unnecessary pressure on my forefoot. I have some old SB Blazer lunarlon insoles and tried those in my Half Cabs and it felt like a completely different shoe but I'm interested to try some FP elite insoles. It's hard to pull the trigger on an expensive product that backs a MAGA fucktard like Paul Hart though.
skated them and love them. anytime old skool comes in all suede i buy. probably going to grab a few more pairs.
https://youtu.be/nXvtHHhLlIM
Thought this kids review was hilarious
Just starts bomb dropping in his room
Then the music hahaha
Expand Quotehttps://youtu.be/nXvtHHhLlIM
Thought this kids review was hilarious
Just starts bomb dropping in his room
Then the music hahaha[close]
Finally some honest skateboarding journalism
This is the intense scientific testing skateboarding needs!Expand QuoteExpand Quotehttps://youtu.be/nXvtHHhLlIM
Thought this kids review was hilarious
Just starts bomb dropping in his room
Then the music hahaha[close]
Finally some honest skateboarding journalism[close]
Thank you.
This was fucking awesome.
This is the intense scientific testing skateboarding needs!Expand QuoteExpand QuoteFinally some honest skateboarding journalismExpand Quotehttps://youtu.be/nXvtHHhLlIM
Thought this kids review was hilarious
Just starts bomb dropping in his room
Then the music hahaha[close][close]
Thank you.
This was fucking awesome.[close]
Idk how anybody could watch this for more than 30 secsExpand QuoteThis is the intense scientific testing skateboarding needs!Expand QuoteExpand QuoteFinally some honest skateboarding journalismExpand Quotehttps://youtu.be/nXvtHHhLlIM
Thought this kids review was hilarious
Just starts bomb dropping in his room
Then the music hahaha[close][close]
Thank you.
This was fucking awesome.[close][close]
Can't trust a dude rocking Powell Peralta grip on a Santa Cruz deck though. Sorry kid, of credibility.
Expand QuoteDamn I want those rowleys. Had xlts when I was a kid. And they ripped so fast. My mom was so bummed. I want these but I got crocketts coming.[close]
XLTs, bummin moms since 2001, yo
Those Quasi Crocketts with the navy/green colorway were fucking excellent.
I’m going to cut and paste this from my insta about the Gil Highs.
I am so fucking picky about shoes. It’s a curse. I have been this way my whole life… I made my Mother cry over Duffs that were half size too big. My Dad threw airwalks at me on the front lawn. The first time I spent over 100 bucks was on Bo Jackson Nike Trainers in grade 8, my mom had to lie to my dad about the price. Anyhoo, the past few years I can not find a cup sole skate shoe that fits or feels right. I think vans pro highs are their sleeper shoe. It is perfect. But I CAN NOT rock a vulc shoe with my bunk back. All I want is a bouncy feeling sole with a supportive insole. BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY a shoe I can put on and not think about. Which seems to be impossible as they all slip at the heel or have a puffy tongue that feels weird when tied up. Or one foot feels tight and the other loose, or they are too slim and it feels like my feet are being choked.
I am happy to say my search is over. The Gilbert Crocket High is the best feeling shoe I have put on since Vans Fairlanes in the mid 90’s. I’m telling you this is the shoe. Put it on, tie it up, feel the comfort, and most importantly forget you have them on.
where are the green quasi still in stock?Expand QuoteI’m going to cut and paste this from my insta about the Gil Highs.
I am so fucking picky about shoes. It’s a curse. I have been this way my whole life… I made my Mother cry over Duffs that were half size too big. My Dad threw airwalks at me on the front lawn. The first time I spent over 100 bucks was on Bo Jackson Nike Trainers in grade 8, my mom had to lie to my dad about the price. Anyhoo, the past few years I can not find a cup sole skate shoe that fits or feels right. I think vans pro highs are their sleeper shoe. It is perfect. But I CAN NOT rock a vulc shoe with my bunk back. All I want is a bouncy feeling sole with a supportive insole. BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY a shoe I can put on and not think about. Which seems to be impossible as they all slip at the heel or have a puffy tongue that feels weird when tied up. Or one foot feels tight and the other loose, or they are too slim and it feels like my feet are being choked.
I am happy to say my search is over. The Gilbert Crocket High is the best feeling shoe I have put on since Vans Fairlanes in the mid 90’s. I’m telling you this is the shoe. Put it on, tie it up, feel the comfort, and most importantly forget you have them on.[close]
After reading this post and many others about the high praise of Crockett Highs, I finally pulled the trigger. Came a day after Christmas but the wait was well worth it. You hit the nail on the head on my feelings as well of never being satisfied with the shoe you're wearing till now. These Crockett's are the truth. I bought the green quasi cw and now searching for the all black cw in my size.
where are the green quasi still in stock?Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI’m going to cut and paste this from my insta about the Gil Highs.
I am so fucking picky about shoes. It’s a curse. I have been this way my whole life… I made my Mother cry over Duffs that were half size too big. My Dad threw airwalks at me on the front lawn. The first time I spent over 100 bucks was on Bo Jackson Nike Trainers in grade 8, my mom had to lie to my dad about the price. Anyhoo, the past few years I can not find a cup sole skate shoe that fits or feels right. I think vans pro highs are their sleeper shoe. It is perfect. But I CAN NOT rock a vulc shoe with my bunk back. All I want is a bouncy feeling sole with a supportive insole. BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY a shoe I can put on and not think about. Which seems to be impossible as they all slip at the heel or have a puffy tongue that feels weird when tied up. Or one foot feels tight and the other loose, or they are too slim and it feels like my feet are being choked.
I am happy to say my search is over. The Gilbert Crocket High is the best feeling shoe I have put on since Vans Fairlanes in the mid 90’s. I’m telling you this is the shoe. Put it on, tie it up, feel the comfort, and most importantly forget you have them on.[close]
After reading this post and many others about the high praise of Crockett Highs, I finally pulled the trigger. Came a day after Christmas but the wait was well worth it. You hit the nail on the head on my feelings as well of never being satisfied with the shoe you're wearing till now. These Crockett's are the truth. I bought the green quasi cw and now searching for the all black cw in my size.[close]
This ultracush is stiff as shit, do these get better with time?That's been my experience with it too. In fact I think it gets harder over time. A lot of people don't like how squishy the Popcush is but I personally like it more. Different strokes but it is kinda weird that Vans insoles are so different from one version to the next
I've had ultracush insoles that are very firm and very soft.That's been my experience with it too. In fact I think it gets harder over time. A lot of people don't like how squishy the Popcush is but I personally like it more. Different strokes but it is kinda weird that Vans insoles are so different from one version to the nextExpand QuoteThis ultracush is stiff as shit, do these get better with time?[close]
Wait, so the Pro line is being replaced by the Skate line? And are they really calling it the “Skate Sk8 Hi”?yeah pretty confusing. Per IG comment from a vans employee, sounds like these will be worldwide at core shops in the new “Skate Classics build” in these colors
Good job, Vans. You’ve managed to confuse your customers again.
Wait, so the Pro line is being replaced by the Skate line? And are they really calling it the “Skate Sk8 Hi”?
Good job, Vans. You’ve managed to confuse your customers again.
How long did it take to break in the K walks? Tried to skate them right out of the box today that was a bad idea , ultracush hd
Expand QuoteWait, so the Pro line is being replaced by the Skate line? And are they really calling it the “Skate Sk8 Hi”?
Good job, Vans. You’ve managed to confuse your customers again.[close]
Hahaha. And Skate SK8 Low if they keep making them?
That Homegrown shop in upstate NY has this to say about the Old Skool, at least:
Vans Skate Old Skool
Completely redesigned with skaters in mind, the all-new Skate Classics line delivers more of what skaters need to enable maximum progression.
The new sidewall finish, checkerboard flag, and “Skateboarding” branding are some of the subtle differences that enhance the iconic style skaters need to enable maximum progression.
The fully revised upper, molded heel counter, locked-in tongue straps, and a recut of the DURACAP underlay offer an essential fit that is more breathable and durable where skaters need it most.
The two-part foxing, featuring a tougher toe knurl, ensures heightened board contact, and the redesigned gum rubber sole that made Vans famous has been made even better with the SickStick rubber compound, plus an internal heel shank to deliver more grip, more boardfeel, more support, and more durability.
The all-new Skate Classics give you the look you want—with the performance benefits that real skaters demand. SKATE CLASSICS ARE MADE FOR SKATEBOARDING.
People are so brainwashed by Vans, this is literally saying "Hey we know we keep fucking up and changing the insoles/fits of our shoes so here's a complete rebrand of the same shit but changed again... Hopefully they dont hurt your feet!".
100%Expand QuotePeople are so brainwashed by Vans, this is literally saying "Hey we know we keep fucking up and changing the insoles/fits of our shoes so here's a complete rebrand of the same shit but changed again... Hopefully they dont hurt your feet!".[close]
Hit the nail on the head.
100%Expand QuoteExpand QuotePeople are so brainwashed by Vans, this is literally saying "Hey we know we keep fucking up and changing the insoles/fits of our shoes so here's a complete rebrand of the same shit but changed again... Hopefully they dont hurt your feet!".[close]
Hit the nail on the head.[close]
Last 2 pairs of Vans I've skated had been a disappointment: kwalks 2 and Rowan's. Don't get me wrong, Rowan's shoe are awesome but these ones feel super stiff on my right foot only. Super weird.
Dig the colorways but super hesitant to try them. Ever since they switched to popcush, shoes that I've been skating for years with no problems, have suddenly been giving me blisters. Might have to steer clear of any "pro" or "skate" line and stick to the classics
Huh... interesting development. I do like the all black colorways with white laces at least. Does anyone know if they're going to do this with Halfcabs too?
I’m surprised they aren’t just giving Reynolds his own damn shoe.I actually think a Vans Reynolds model would be weird. Happy to just see him put his name on some classics colorways.
I actually think a Vans Reynolds model would be weird. Happy to just see him put his name on some classics colorways.Expand QuoteI’m surprised they aren’t just giving Reynolds his own damn shoe.[close]
Seems like Vans' philosophy on pro models is that if they're going to give you one, they want to give you more in the years that follow. Reynolds probably doesn't have much time left as a full time pro skater, so there isn't a long-term brand to be built around Reynolds pro models the way there may be around Rowan or Berle, who are the most recent people to get their first Vans pro models, and probably have many years as pro skaters left. Anyone on the back end of their skate career who has a pro model (AVE and Caballero) has been there a long time and had a few previous Vans pro shoes. Not that Reynolds doesn't deserve a pro model, but giving him one wouldn't really fit in with how Vans normally gives out pro models. For the same reason, I would think Tony Hawk isn't getting one either, even though he obviously has more name recognition than like Chima Ferguson.but they keep making TNT shoes/colorways?
I used to love Vans for their iconic and timeless shoe-designs.
But nowadays it seems like, theyre trying to jump on the tech bandwagon. Ii bet a lot of you like the new shoes they have put out in the recent years, but in my opinion they just lost their iconic design.
but they keep making TNT shoes/colorways?Expand QuoteSeems like Vans' philosophy on pro models is that if they're going to give you one, they want to give you more in the years that follow. Reynolds probably doesn't have much time left as a full time pro skater, so there isn't a long-term brand to be built around Reynolds pro models the way there may be around Rowan or Berle, who are the most recent people to get their first Vans pro models, and probably have many years as pro skaters left. Anyone on the back end of their skate career who has a pro model (AVE and Caballero) has been there a long time and had a few previous Vans pro shoes. Not that Reynolds doesn't deserve a pro model, but giving him one wouldn't really fit in with how Vans normally gives out pro models. For the same reason, I would think Tony Hawk isn't getting one either, even though he obviously has more name recognition than like Chima Ferguson.[close]
I think it's likely that TNT is now kinda like Jack Purcell or Chuck Taylor. People know the shoe but don't necessarily know the person the shoe was named after. Like you pointed out, there's been a TNT shoe for years now and I wouldn't be surprised if some people just always look for the TNT model when they go to pick up a new pair of Vans.Expand Quotebut they keep making TNT shoes/colorways?Expand QuoteSeems like Vans' philosophy on pro models is that if they're going to give you one, they want to give you more in the years that follow. Reynolds probably doesn't have much time left as a full time pro skater, so there isn't a long-term brand to be built around Reynolds pro models the way there may be around Rowan or Berle, who are the most recent people to get their first Vans pro models, and probably have many years as pro skaters left. Anyone on the back end of their skate career who has a pro model (AVE and Caballero) has been there a long time and had a few previous Vans pro shoes. Not that Reynolds doesn't deserve a pro model, but giving him one wouldn't really fit in with how Vans normally gives out pro models. For the same reason, I would think Tony Hawk isn't getting one either, even though he obviously has more name recognition than like Chima Ferguson.[close][close]
Maybe TNT is also in the same category as the lifers, as he has been on Vans (and almost all his tier one sponsors Antihero, Indy, Spitfire, Jessup, etc) since day dot, but even if he is not liked on here so much, he is still a big seller for them in general and still has a big following.
Apart from classic Half Cabs and some Half Cab pro shoes, the various TNT shoes are a close second if not top for the highest number of pairs of signature shoes I have had over the years, mainly TNT, TNT2, TNT4, TNT5 and a few models of the other versions, but I think maybe classic Old Skools / Old Skool pro would probably be the number one overall.
Thankfully I don't need any more shoes any time soon, but these new "skate" versions could go either way really, depending on how people find the fit of them. I still like the current fit of Half Cabs, both classic and pro, which feel so comfortable all over for my feet, but everyone is different.
I think it's likely that TNT is now kinda like Jack Purcell or Chuck Taylor. People know the shoe but don't necessarily know the person the shoe was named after. Like you pointed out, there's been a TNT shoe for years now and I wouldn't be surprised if some people just always look for the TNT model when they go to pick up a new pair of Vans.Expand QuoteExpand Quotebut they keep making TNT shoes/colorways?Expand QuoteSeems like Vans' philosophy on pro models is that if they're going to give you one, they want to give you more in the years that follow. Reynolds probably doesn't have much time left as a full time pro skater, so there isn't a long-term brand to be built around Reynolds pro models the way there may be around Rowan or Berle, who are the most recent people to get their first Vans pro models, and probably have many years as pro skaters left. Anyone on the back end of their skate career who has a pro model (AVE and Caballero) has been there a long time and had a few previous Vans pro shoes. Not that Reynolds doesn't deserve a pro model, but giving him one wouldn't really fit in with how Vans normally gives out pro models. For the same reason, I would think Tony Hawk isn't getting one either, even though he obviously has more name recognition than like Chima Ferguson.[close][close]
Maybe TNT is also in the same category as the lifers, as he has been on Vans (and almost all his tier one sponsors Antihero, Indy, Spitfire, Jessup, etc) since day dot, but even if he is not liked on here so much, he is still a big seller for them in general and still has a big following.
Apart from classic Half Cabs and some Half Cab pro shoes, the various TNT shoes are a close second if not top for the highest number of pairs of signature shoes I have had over the years, mainly TNT, TNT2, TNT4, TNT5 and a few models of the other versions, but I think maybe classic Old Skools / Old Skool pro would probably be the number one overall.
Thankfully I don't need any more shoes any time soon, but these new "skate" versions could go either way really, depending on how people find the fit of them. I still like the current fit of Half Cabs, both classic and pro, which feel so comfortable all over for my feet, but everyone is different.[close]
Up until recently, I hadn't seen TNT footage since the release of the most recent shoe which was at least a few years ago now. I would imagine that Vans has metrics that tell them to keep giving the dude shoes even if he isn't really that productive anymore.
but they keep making TNT shoes/colorways?Expand QuoteSeems like Vans' philosophy on pro models is that if they're going to give you one, they want to give you more in the years that follow. Reynolds probably doesn't have much time left as a full time pro skater, so there isn't a long-term brand to be built around Reynolds pro models the way there may be around Rowan or Berle, who are the most recent people to get their first Vans pro models, and probably have many years as pro skaters left. Anyone on the back end of their skate career who has a pro model (AVE and Caballero) has been there a long time and had a few previous Vans pro shoes. Not that Reynolds doesn't deserve a pro model, but giving him one wouldn't really fit in with how Vans normally gives out pro models. For the same reason, I would think Tony Hawk isn't getting one either, even though he obviously has more name recognition than like Chima Ferguson.[close]
A dr t would be so dope rn
Would also be on board. Van Wastell had such sick footage in those.Expand QuoteA dr t would be so dope rn[close]
Anyone know if vans is gonna drop another colorway of the Rowley RapidWeld pro with the waffle cup that’s not all black or the navy one currently? Why can’t company’s just make a black upper and white sole?!
Would also be on board. Van Wastell had such sick footage in those.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteA dr t would be so dope rn[close][close]
Ground up rebuild
employee of vans skate talking about his 3rd year st the company and this project rebuilding this new skate classics line being a ton of workExpand Quote
Ground up rebuild[close]
Link broken or post deleted - now you got my curiosity I want to know what it was...
employee of vans skate talking about his 3rd year st the company and this project rebuilding this new skate classics line being a ton of workExpand QuoteExpand Quote
Ground up rebuild[close]
Link broken or post deleted - now you got my curiosity I want to know what it was...[close]
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Ground up rebuild[close]
Link broken or post deleted - now you got my curiosity I want to know what it was...[close][close]
Thanks! I recall talking to a guy who was helping with things and he couldn't believe some of the people in such important positions didn't know a thing about skateboarding, so was wondering how they could ever be the ones successfully designing skateboarding shoes. It might be a good thing that actual skaters are being involved in the process.
PSA: vans Australia website has Ave pro’s for $50, down from $200!
I got 2 pairs (size 11 & 12) to see which one fits better...i have a few skate shoes but the deal was too good to pass up and everyone here has been talking good things about Ave’s.
Expand QuotePSA: vans Australia website has Ave pro’s for $50, down from $200!
I got 2 pairs (size 11 & 12) to see which one fits better...i have a few skate shoes but the deal was too good to pass up and everyone here has been talking good things about Ave’s.[close]
Don't mind if I do!!!!!
I had been so good and not bought anything even though I get the emails and from Black Friday, all the pro classic range were down to $100 and I had a further 20% off as VIP / email, so Sk8 hi pro were $80 so I added to the cart and sat on lots until the offer ended.
This one however is too much of a deal / curiosity to pass up, so I got what might be the last two size 12 and two size 11 also just to check and see which is better, but I have others I skate with I can always pass them on to.
White with black stripe and that blue inner / clear sole is a bit weird, which is why I never looked at them before, but lets see how they fit.
https://www.vans.com.au/ave-pro-blanc-de-blanc-blk-vna4bt7uy6-wht.html
Expand QuoteExpand QuotePSA: vans Australia website has Ave pro’s for $50, down from $200!
I got 2 pairs (size 11 & 12) to see which one fits better...i have a few skate shoes but the deal was too good to pass up and everyone here has been talking good things about Ave’s.[close]
Don't mind if I do!!!!!
I had been so good and not bought anything even though I get the emails and from Black Friday, all the pro classic range were down to $100 and I had a further 20% off as VIP / email, so Sk8 hi pro were $80 so I added to the cart and sat on lots until the offer ended.
This one however is too much of a deal / curiosity to pass up, so I got what might be the last two size 12 and two size 11 also just to check and see which is better, but I have others I skate with I can always pass them on to.
White with black stripe and that blue inner / clear sole is a bit weird, which is why I never looked at them before, but lets see how they fit.
https://www.vans.com.au/ave-pro-blanc-de-blanc-blk-vna4bt7uy6-wht.html[close]
Glad i could share the love!
Also, didn’t realise you were aussie!! Whereabouts in Oz you in?
Yep I got two pairs as well .. didn't need shoes but yeah couldn't pass on that priceExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuotePSA: vans Australia website has Ave pro’s for $50, down from $200!
I got 2 pairs (size 11 & 12) to see which one fits better...i have a few skate shoes but the deal was too good to pass up and everyone here has been talking good things about Ave’s.[close]
Don't mind if I do!!!!!
I had been so good and not bought anything even though I get the emails and from Black Friday, all the pro classic range were down to $100 and I had a further 20% off as VIP / email, so Sk8 hi pro were $80 so I added to the cart and sat on lots until the offer ended.
This one however is too much of a deal / curiosity to pass up, so I got what might be the last two size 12 and two size 11 also just to check and see which is better, but I have others I skate with I can always pass them on to.
White with black stripe and that blue inner / clear sole is a bit weird, which is why I never looked at them before, but lets see how they fit.
https://www.vans.com.au/ave-pro-blanc-de-blanc-blk-vna4bt7uy6-wht.html[close]
Glad i could share the love!
Also, didn’t realise you were aussie!! Whereabouts in Oz you in?[close]
Brisbane, or at least Brisbane born and bred, now still in QLD but an hour south south west.
There are actually quite a few Aussies here I have found.
I’ve said it already.
Vans authentic pro are fucking terrible. I’ve had them for 6 months, worn them twice and hated every minute of it. I may be walking away from vans indefinitely.
Can’t imagine skating in them.
Expand QuoteI’ve said it already.
Vans authentic pro are fucking terrible. I’ve had them for 6 months, worn them twice and hated every minute of it. I may be walking away from vans indefinitely.
Can’t imagine skating in them.[close]
They just feel so much longer and flatter than the classics. I was recently gifted the wrapped suede authentic pros and they feel closer to the originals. Hoping the new skate authentics finally hit the mark.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI’ve said it already.
Vans authentic pro are fucking terrible. I’ve had them for 6 months, worn them twice and hated every minute of it. I may be walking away from vans indefinitely.
Can’t imagine skating in them.[close]
They just feel so much longer and flatter than the classics. I was recently gifted the wrapped suede authentic pros and they feel closer to the originals. Hoping the new skate authentics finally hit the mark.[close]
They were one of the shoes that were definitely on the upgrade list.
In mine, the heel area got stretched so they didn't want to stay on my feet, so I used some off cut strips from Footprint insoles and stitched them into the top back of the heel, to make them more like Eras and it works a treat. I couldn't imagine that many other people would go to that extent just to wear some shoes, but they are the all black suede so are more my chiller and going out shoes than anything else. I definitely like the padded collar of Era, Old Skool, etc.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI’ve said it already.
Vans authentic pro are fucking terrible. I’ve had them for 6 months, worn them twice and hated every minute of it. I may be walking away from vans indefinitely.
Can’t imagine skating in them.[close]
They just feel so much longer and flatter than the classics. I was recently gifted the wrapped suede authentic pros and they feel closer to the originals. Hoping the new skate authentics finally hit the mark.[close]
They were one of the shoes that were definitely on the upgrade list.
In mine, the heel area got stretched so they didn't want to stay on my feet, so I used some off cut strips from Footprint insoles and stitched them into the top back of the heel, to make them more like Eras and it works a treat. I couldn't imagine that many other people would go to that extent just to wear some shoes, but they are the all black suede so are more my chiller and going out shoes than anything else. I definitely like the padded collar of Era, Old Skool, etc.[close]
Nice, I’ll give that a shot with some old insoles.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuotePSA: vans Australia website has Ave pro’s for $50, down from $200!
I got 2 pairs (size 11 & 12) to see which one fits better...i have a few skate shoes but the deal was too good to pass up and everyone here has been talking good things about Ave’s.[close]
Don't mind if I do!!!!!
I had been so good and not bought anything even though I get the emails and from Black Friday, all the pro classic range were down to $100 and I had a further 20% off as VIP / email, so Sk8 hi pro were $80 so I added to the cart and sat on lots until the offer ended.
This one however is too much of a deal / curiosity to pass up, so I got what might be the last two size 12 and two size 11 also just to check and see which is better, but I have others I skate with I can always pass them on to.
White with black stripe and that blue inner / clear sole is a bit weird, which is why I never looked at them before, but lets see how they fit.
https://www.vans.com.au/ave-pro-blanc-de-blanc-blk-vna4bt7uy6-wht.html[close]
Glad i could share the love!
Also, didn’t realise you were aussie!! Whereabouts in Oz you in?[close]
Brisbane, or at least Brisbane born and bred, now still in QLD but an hour south south west.
There are actually quite a few Aussies here I have found.
Sweet...im in sydney.
Have you got the Ave’s yet. Got mine in the mail today, just got back from a skate...i dont know if its the new shoe grip etc...but these shoes feel great, im able to stick a lot more of my tricks than with other shoes.
The only issue with is I cant wear my lace-up ankle braces. These shoes are really low cut and my feet feel like they will pop out of the heel with ankle braces, so will have to work something out with that i guess.
But my verdict...Ave’s are great shoes.
Skate classics half cab
The shiny texture in the midsole is to reduce dirt. These are obviously black like the other skate classics models to release. But it’s the same as used on Rowan’s but there was feedback to those attracting too much dirt. So the shiny texture reduces that
Note the foxing reduced a few mm to match closer to the normal classics
https://www.instagram.com/p/CJ9cVUOnwxU/?igshid=1h3hos0hs93gs (https://www.instagram.com/p/CJ9cVUOnwxU/?igshid=1h3hos0hs93gs)
https://hypebeast.com/2021/1/vans-authentic-slip-black-burgundy-release-info?amp=1All they did was remove eyelets man, I wear some of my authentics without laces for the beach; no new design so not really a rip-off
I know it’s a slip on / authentic mash up but anyone else think this is a complete rip off of Dylan’s slip on?
https://hypebeast.com/2021/1/vans-authentic-slip-black-burgundy-release-info?amp=1
I know it’s a slip on / authentic mash up but anyone else think this is a complete rip off of Dylan’s slip on?
Expand Quotehttps://hypebeast.com/2021/1/vans-authentic-slip-black-burgundy-release-info?amp=1
I know it’s a slip on / authentic mash up but anyone else think this is a complete rip off of Dylan’s slip on?[close]
Definitely looks that way, but so many shoes with laces taken out will have that same sort of look, as already pointed out, but none every look that smooth and suave, do they?
New Berle pro shoe? *
* Sorry I couldn't help myself.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CJ_q5-SDmYm/
"The all new @vansskate Skate Sport Pro, a new take on a classic style skate shoe."
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"The all new @vansskate Skate Sport Pro, a new take on a classic style skate shoe."[close]
I generally think most Vans shoes are garbage. Poor construction and terrible fit. I got some of these new Skate Sport Pros today. Much better construction/materials and very comfortable right out of the box. I am pretty stoked on this shoe.
The only thing I am not very stoked on is the single stitching on the toe. Oh, and most Vans shoes have an incredibly strong chemical smell when new. These take the chemical smell to new levels of instant headache when opening the box.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CJ_q5-SDmYm/These look really nice. Could be a new blazer alternative? I love blazers but it’s hard to bring myself to buy a pair when I could go the vans outlet down the road and get two pairs for the price of one pair of blazers. Definitely gonna give these a shot.
"The all new @vansskate Skate Sport Pro, a new take on a classic style skate shoe."
Expand QuoteExpand Quotehttps://hypebeast.com/2021/1/vans-authentic-slip-black-burgundy-release-info?amp=1
I know it’s a slip on / authentic mash up but anyone else think this is a complete rip off of Dylan’s slip on?[close]
Definitely looks that way, but so many shoes with laces taken out will have that same sort of look, as already pointed out, but none every look that smooth and suave, do they?
New Berle pro shoe? *
* Sorry I couldn't help myself.[close]
I'd cop the black pair.
https://hypebeast.com/2021/1/vans-authentic-slip-black-burgundy-release-info?amp=1
I know it’s a slip on / authentic mash up but anyone else think this is a complete rip off of Dylan’s slip on?
Expand Quotehttps://hypebeast.com/2021/1/vans-authentic-slip-black-burgundy-release-info?amp=1
I know it’s a slip on / authentic mash up but anyone else think this is a complete rip off of Dylan’s slip on?[close]
Dylan's sister not feelin em
(https://i.imgur.com/5lxtELY.png)
Not only that 👆, but I’m pretty sure the shoe company Frye was putting out a more similar version that was most likely where the gravis shoe was inspired from than the Vans version. Sorry to say, but his sister is trippin...Expand QuoteExpand Quotehttps://hypebeast.com/2021/1/vans-authentic-slip-black-burgundy-release-info?amp=1
I know it’s a slip on / authentic mash up but anyone else think this is a complete rip off of Dylan’s slip on?[close]
Dylan's sister not feelin em
(https://i.imgur.com/5lxtELY.png)[close]
Good luck with that
(https://i.imgur.com/HBpQ6vs.png)
Expand Quotehttps://hypebeast.com/2021/1/vans-authentic-slip-black-burgundy-release-info?amp=1
I know it’s a slip on / authentic mash up but anyone else think this is a complete rip off of Dylan’s slip on?[close]
Dylan's sister not feelin em
(https://i.imgur.com/5lxtELY.png)
There are so many comments on the post, so not going to get into it, but have a laugh / look anyway if you are curious.
I wonder how many of them are actually old enough to know much, besides just saying "Dylan / Huf" blah blah blah.
They look clean and stylish, but I am more stoked on something I can do the laces up and have the shoe stay on my feet, but I am old and boring too, I guess.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CKB4BKDLvhy/
The pain that some are feeling over this shoe is very amusing
Expand QuoteThe pain that some are feeling over this shoe is very amusing[close]
I don’t feel pain. I don’t feel anything but it is what it is. Didn’t wear Dylan’s won’t wear these. But it is a blatant rip off. If anyone finds this fine and Berles cosplay in poor taste. You’re probably a hypocrite.
Expand QuoteThe pain that some are feeling over this shoe is very amusing[close]
I don’t feel pain. I don’t feel anything but it is what it is. Didn’t wear Dylan’s won’t wear these. But it is a blatant rip off. If anyone finds this fine and Berles cosplay in poor taste. You’re probably a hypocrite.
Expand QuoteThe pain that some are feeling over this shoe is very amusing[close]
I don’t feel pain. I don’t feel anything but it is what it is. Didn’t wear Dylan’s won’t wear these. But it is a blatant rip off. If anyone finds this fine and Berles cosplay in poor taste. You’re probably a hypocrite.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteThe pain that some are feeling over this shoe is very amusing[close]
I don’t feel pain. I don’t feel anything but it is what it is. Didn’t wear Dylan’s won’t wear these. But it is a blatant rip off. If anyone finds this fine and Berles cosplay in poor taste. You’re probably a hypocrite.[close]
Think Berle will be rocking these?
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Think Berle will be rocking these?[close]
Seeing that he prefers Old Skools, Authentics, and Slip Ons. I say yes.
Also, seeing that he's a fan of vulc shoes, I wonder if he was forced to make a shoe with the WaffleCup in order to have a shoe?
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteThe pain that some are feeling over this shoe is very amusing[close]
I don’t feel pain. I don’t feel anything but it is what it is. Didn’t wear Dylan’s won’t wear these. But it is a blatant rip off. If anyone finds this fine and Berles cosplay in poor taste. You’re probably a hypocrite.[close]
Think Berle will be rocking these?
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Think Berle will be rocking these?[close]
Seeing that he prefers Old Skools, Authentics, and Slip Ons. I say yes.
Also, seeing that he's a fan of vulc shoes, I wonder if he was forced to make a shoe with the WaffleCup in order to have a shoe?[close]
(That being said, are there any Slap Pals in Japan down to order me a pair in japan size 28??)
I havent seen them at my local shops yet but I think Beatrice is coming out with her own colorway of the "dylan slip ons" from what I seen on her insta. black leather with the pro insole in it.
The Beatrice shoe is a penny-loafer style, not a Dylan slip-on. Dylan did have that "driver shoe" on Huf that is sorta similar, but Beatrice's shoe is 100% a vulcanized penny loafer.
Edit: somewhat clearer shot from her insta:
(https://i.imgur.com/FsrVNDs.jpeg)
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Think Berle will be rocking these?[close]
Seeing that he prefers Old Skools, Authentics, and Slip Ons. I say yes.
Also, seeing that he's a fan of vulc shoes, I wonder if he was forced to make a shoe with the WaffleCup in order to have a shoe?[close]
Again y'all. This shoe is coming from the Wild West out East of Vans Japan where they seem to do fuckall with whatever they want inside Japan independent of the Vans' normal production and distribution. I heard they even use their own factories independent of the Vans we know. These aren't coming to America or Europe. This isn't Vans trying to step on Dylan's ground... it's just Vans Japan doing what they always seem to do, from Stan Smith ripoffs to AF1 ripoffs to even like Danner Boot ripoffs.
As for Berle, the Vans company that makes/gives shoes to him won't be making these, so I almost guarantee he will not be getting any of these unless he has a homie in Japan get them for him.
Only way you are getting them is if you have a homie in Japan buy them at ABC Mart and send them to you.
(That being said, are there any Slap Pals in Japan down to order me a pair in japan size 28??)
Whatever the equivalent of US 9.5 is I want a pair.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quote
Think Berle will be rocking these?[close]
Seeing that he prefers Old Skools, Authentics, and Slip Ons. I say yes.
Also, seeing that he's a fan of vulc shoes, I wonder if he was forced to make a shoe with the WaffleCup in order to have a shoe?[close]
(That being said, are there any Slap Pals in Japan down to order me a pair in japan size 28??)[close]
Thank you for making that clear. Also I need a Japan sz 28 as well. Preferably black.
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Think Berle will be rocking these?[close]
Seeing that he prefers Old Skools, Authentics, and Slip Ons. I say yes.
Also, seeing that he's a fan of vulc shoes, I wonder if he was forced to make a shoe with the WaffleCup in order to have a shoe?[close]
Again y'all. This shoe is coming from the Wild West out East of Vans Japan where they seem to do fuckall with whatever they want inside Japan independent of the Vans' normal production and distribution. I heard they even use their own factories independent of the Vans we know. These aren't coming to America or Europe. This isn't Vans trying to step on Dylan's ground... it's just Vans Japan doing what they always seem to do, from Stan Smith ripoffs to AF1 ripoffs to even like Danner Boot ripoffs.
As for Berle, the Vans company that makes/gives shoes to him won't be making these, so I almost guarantee he will not be getting any of these unless he has a homie in Japan get them for him.
Only way you are getting them is if you have a homie in Japan buy them at ABC Mart and send them to you.
(That being said, are there any Slap Pals in Japan down to order me a pair in japan size 28??)
inquiry. interested in buying some of the anaheim sk8-hi's. i had a pair of the style 73 (epoch/sport) anaheims and found them to run about a half size small. does this carry through with the other anaheim models? anyone have any experience with this?I had a pair of anaheim Sids that were also at least a half size smaller than every other pair of non-anaheim vans that i've had. So yeah, it's probably consistent across all anaheims.
Whoa, great info. I got some Anaheim Collection Sports in hopes of skating them, but they are definitely about a quarter size too small and smash my toes. I was really stressing out not knowing my shoe size.I had a pair of anaheim Sids that were also at least a half size smaller than every other pair of non-anaheim vans that i've had. So yeah, it's probably consistent across all anaheims.Expand Quoteinquiry. interested in buying some of the anaheim sk8-hi's. i had a pair of the style 73 (epoch/sport) anaheims and found them to run about a half size small. does this carry through with the other anaheim models? anyone have any experience with this?[close]
I had a pair of anaheim Sids that were also at least a half size smaller than every other pair of non-anaheim vans that i've had. So yeah, it's probably consistent across all anaheims.Expand Quoteinquiry. interested in buying some of the anaheim sk8-hi's. i had a pair of the style 73 (epoch/sport) anaheims and found them to run about a half size small. does this carry through with the other anaheim models? anyone have any experience with this?[close]
Hopefully they're blowing them out and will just keep the first KWalks in the line. I was just reminiscing about Vans weird strappy slip-on phase from what last year? The year before? I was thinking in particular about the strap-on that came out before the KWalk2 that had the screen printed multicolor jazz stripe and how that shoe disappeared after one run. They have a BMX slip-on coming out which is just the regular slip upper with a wafflecup sole. I think that's what everyone who wanted a cup slip was asking for so hopefully they wind up feeling pretty good. Whatever Vans was trying before just didn't look good and I couldn't imagine how it would feel good either.Expand QuoteI had a pair of anaheim Sids that were also at least a half size smaller than every other pair of non-anaheim vans that i've had. So yeah, it's probably consistent across all anaheims.Expand Quoteinquiry. interested in buying some of the anaheim sk8-hi's. i had a pair of the style 73 (epoch/sport) anaheims and found them to run about a half size small. does this carry through with the other anaheim models? anyone have any experience with this?[close][close]
bless your soul, thanks.
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i tried on a pair of those kyle walker 2's at a nordstrom rack for shits and giggles.
whoever designed this shoe should be shot. felt so insecure on my foot not to mention looks terrible. strap didn't make the shoe feel locked in on my foot at all. no clue how these are still on shelves.
Kyle walker 2s are the worst pieces of shit since the Berles.Expand QuoteI had a pair of anaheim Sids that were also at least a half size smaller than every other pair of non-anaheim vans that i've had. So yeah, it's probably consistent across all anaheims.Expand Quoteinquiry. interested in buying some of the anaheim sk8-hi's. i had a pair of the style 73 (epoch/sport) anaheims and found them to run about a half size small. does this carry through with the other anaheim models? anyone have any experience with this?[close][close]
bless your soul, thanks.
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i tried on a pair of those kyle walker 2's at a nordstrom rack for shits and giggles.
whoever designed this shoe should be shot. felt so insecure on my foot not to mention looks terrible. strap didn't make the shoe feel locked in on my foot at all. no clue how these are still on shelves.
has anyone seen the new all black skate halfcabs anywhere?Yeah, Reynolds' insta :P
^They put a couple of colorways of that shoe out with AA's name on them last year as the Authentic Hi.Those look so good! I regret not buying a pair when they were out. Hence why I'm excited for the ones Lizzie is wearing
Navy ones remind me how much I miss the 112 Pros.
^They put a couple of colorways of that shoe out with AA's name on them last year as the Authentic Hi.
all this talk of aching heels has me put off of the skate slip ons and old skools. i hate it when that happens. why even build a shoe like this. i thought the point of the new skateline to make the inner more seamless and socklike or something. yet you still have this achaic form of a heellock.Dude yes! I’m wearing the slips right now and they are so uncomfortable, my heels are killing me. They feel so tight and I’ve been wearing them as chillers for two weeks now
the full cabs look sick though, even though they messed it up with the checkerboard. honestly don't know why they don't reissue these more often. the old school toe cap half cab should be the standard and then they should drop full cabs twice a year or so imo.
I skated in the Old-School "pros" and the Sk8-HIs "pros." I got a pair of the new SK8-HIs about two weeks ago. Normally when I get a new pair of shoes, I wear them for about two weeks before I even step on a board with them--I hate the "new" shoe feel on a board. So, I have not even skated in these yet. That said, here is my initial reactions to them. So far, most of it is negative.
(1) They are hot. Much hotter than the Pros.
(2) The tongue does not move, at all, because of the internal tongue straps. This is good, because I hated how the tongue would always slip around on the older versions. This also makes them much harder to put on/take off.
(3) I still have some pressure points around the little toe on one shoe. This never happened before with the Pros.
(4) Two weeks in and they still feel quite stiff, as in, not broken-in at all. Around two weeks is when I would normally start considering skating in the Pros. These do not feel like they are anywhere near "ready" yet. What that means long term remains to be seen. Further on this point, Vans always felt "comfy" to me, almost out of the box. These have not yet reached that state. When I got home from work last night I was dying to take them off. That never happened before with the Pros. I'll follow-up more as time goes on.
Anyone else had more in-depth experience with these yet?
Do the new Skate versions fit the same as the Pros?I got them in my regular size just like Pros and they fit like they should (eventually.) I do recall in the early days of Pro slips it was recommended to go up a full size but Vans fixed that and I have been TTS with Vans ever since. I would get what size you always get.
I had to size up from the regular half cabs to a half size bigger for pros (same with most models). Wondering if its the same deal with the new line...
I skated in the Old-School "pros" and the Sk8-HIs "pros." I got a pair of the new SK8-HIs about two weeks ago. Normally when I get a new pair of shoes, I wear them for about two weeks before I even step on a board with them--I hate the "new" shoe feel on a board. So, I have not even skated in these yet. That said, here is my initial reactions to them. So far, most of it is negative.
(1) They are hot. Much hotter than the Pros.
(2) The tongue does not move, at all, because of the internal tongue straps. This is good, because I hated how the tongue would always slip around on the older versions. This also makes them much harder to put on/take off.
(3) I still have some pressure points around the little toe on one shoe. This never happened before with the Pros.
(4) Two weeks in and they still feel quite stiff, as in, not broken-in at all. Around two weeks is when I would normally start considering skating in the Pros. These do not feel like they are anywhere near "ready" yet. What that means long term remains to be seen. Further on this point, Vans always felt "comfy" to me, almost out of the box. These have not yet reached that state. When I got home from work last night I was dying to take them off. That never happened before with the Pros. I'll follow-up more as time goes on.
Anyone else had more in-depth experience with these yet?
I’ve had two pairs of authentic pros that have a super stiff square heel counter. Does anyone know if the new skate authentics are the same? Thanks in advance!check out my review on the previous page. If anything, the heel in the new Skate Authentics is even stiffer.
Expand QuoteI skated in the Old-School "pros" and the Sk8-HIs "pros." I got a pair of the new SK8-HIs about two weeks ago. Normally when I get a new pair of shoes, I wear them for about two weeks before I even step on a board with them--I hate the "new" shoe feel on a board. So, I have not even skated in these yet. That said, here is my initial reactions to them. So far, most of it is negative.
(1) They are hot. Much hotter than the Pros.
(2) The tongue does not move, at all, because of the internal tongue straps. This is good, because I hated how the tongue would always slip around on the older versions. This also makes them much harder to put on/take off.
(3) I still have some pressure points around the little toe on one shoe. This never happened before with the Pros.
(4) Two weeks in and they still feel quite stiff, as in, not broken-in at all. Around two weeks is when I would normally start considering skating in the Pros. These do not feel like they are anywhere near "ready" yet. What that means long term remains to be seen. Further on this point, Vans always felt "comfy" to me, almost out of the box. These have not yet reached that state. When I got home from work last night I was dying to take them off. That never happened before with the Pros. I'll follow-up more as time goes on.
Anyone else had more in-depth experience with these yet?[close]
Follow-up from my own previous post. Despite my new Sk8-HIs not feeling "ready" yet, I took them for a quick session today. I realized after about 10 min of skating that while they are not "broken in" yet, that these were never going to feel "ready" in the same sense the Pros did, simply because the Skate version is stiffer. I made some peace with that, and just went on skating. There were three distinct things I noticed.
First, board feel is NOT the same. Pros def have the advantage on this. It's not like wearing cupsoles or anything, but it's not the board feel I loved about Vans.
Second, pop was much more crisp. This was a really interesting one, that took me a bit to figure out what I thought was going on here. But when I did, it made perfect sense. So, Pros are more flexible than the Skate line, which is stiffer. So, imagine running in sand, or trying to ollie on grass. Think about how much power/energy gets lost when you push-off/ollie, because the energy gets dissipated into the sand/grass. Now think about running/ollieing on hard concrete. You get a much more explosive run/ollie, because not as much energy is lost. To me, it seemed like this analogy was like Pros vs. Skate line. With the Skate line being stiffer, it felt like more direct power was transferred into my ollies/noilles, and as a result, the pop was much more crisp and responsive. The trade off, of course, is board feel. I'm really curious to see if anyone else noticed this "crisp pop" phenomena, or if it was just in my head.
Third, the comfy factory (mentioned in previous post) still isn't there. I skated for about 30 min, and afterwards I was really like, "Damn. I want to take these things OFF!"
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI skated in the Old-School "pros" and the Sk8-HIs "pros." I got a pair of the new SK8-HIs about two weeks ago. Normally when I get a new pair of shoes, I wear them for about two weeks before I even step on a board with them--I hate the "new" shoe feel on a board. So, I have not even skated in these yet. That said, here is my initial reactions to them. So far, most of it is negative.
(1) They are hot. Much hotter than the Pros.
(2) The tongue does not move, at all, because of the internal tongue straps. This is good, because I hated how the tongue would always slip around on the older versions. This also makes them much harder to put on/take off.
(3) I still have some pressure points around the little toe on one shoe. This never happened before with the Pros.
(4) Two weeks in and they still feel quite stiff, as in, not broken-in at all. Around two weeks is when I would normally start considering skating in the Pros. These do not feel like they are anywhere near "ready" yet. What that means long term remains to be seen. Further on this point, Vans always felt "comfy" to me, almost out of the box. These have not yet reached that state. When I got home from work last night I was dying to take them off. That never happened before with the Pros. I'll follow-up more as time goes on.
Anyone else had more in-depth experience with these yet?[close]
Follow-up from my own previous post. Despite my new Sk8-HIs not feeling "ready" yet, I took them for a quick session today. I realized after about 10 min of skating that while they are not "broken in" yet, that these were never going to feel "ready" in the same sense the Pros did, simply because the Skate version is stiffer. I made some peace with that, and just went on skating. There were three distinct things I noticed.
First, board feel is NOT the same. Pros def have the advantage on this. It's not like wearing cupsoles or anything, but it's not the board feel I loved about Vans.
Second, pop was much more crisp. This was a really interesting one, that took me a bit to figure out what I thought was going on here. But when I did, it made perfect sense. So, Pros are more flexible than the Skate line, which is stiffer. So, imagine running in sand, or trying to ollie on grass. Think about how much power/energy gets lost when you push-off/ollie, because the energy gets dissipated into the sand/grass. Now think about running/ollieing on hard concrete. You get a much more explosive run/ollie, because not as much energy is lost. To me, it seemed like this analogy was like Pros vs. Skate line. With the Skate line being stiffer, it felt like more direct power was transferred into my ollies/noilles, and as a result, the pop was much more crisp and responsive. The trade off, of course, is board feel. I'm really curious to see if anyone else noticed this "crisp pop" phenomena, or if it was just in my head.
Third, the comfy factory (mentioned in previous post) still isn't there. I skated for about 30 min, and afterwards I was really like, "Damn. I want to take these things OFF!"[close]
And today was my first mini ramp session in these. Here is what stood out:
(1) Board Feel was bad. I skate with Kingfoam Elite insoles. I feel like these give you even more board feel than the stock Vans insoles (maybe that's just me). Even with these in the Sk8-HIs, I almost felt like I was wearing cupsoles. After skating for a while, I started to adjust a bit, but it really just felt like I had cement shoes on.
(2) STIFF. For some reason I noticed this more on transition than street. They just felt really, really stiff.
(3) Sticky. Maybe the soles still need some breaking in, but my feet feel way more "stuck" to the board when adjusting feet in the flat bottom for next wall. This got kind of dicey with some of those micro-adjustments you have to make mid-trick/on the lip sometimes.
(4) Pressure points in toe box got real bad during run-outs. Bailing/running out of a trick on tranny really jams your foot into the toe of the shoe. The pressure points mentioned above started to get really sore after skating awhile because of this. Eventually I started knee-sliding (I wear knee pads on mini ramps) on bails that I would otherwise would have run-out of to avoid the pain of the run-outs.
(5) Get these off my feet! Again, when session was over, I wanted nothing more than to just take these shoes off.
None of this has ever happened to me with the Pros.
I was not too happy. Maybe I'll have to switch to the "regular" Vans, and that is a horrifying thought.
I want to try to the new Vans, but I'm stuck between Old Skools and Sk8 Lows.Sk8 lows are one of, if not my all time favorite shoe.
Want to know what people think on each of those pairs.
It's been ages since I've skated Sk8-his, but I do remember liking the wider toe box, so I'm curious if the lows feel the same.
In terms of their design, are the new skate classics similar to the Rowans? These feel stiffer and more form fitting than some other Vans but I like that about them.
Their classic look its timeless and nice but my feet hurt just by walking on them
I still buy a pair from time to time, even years in between, in the hopes they change or feel different for me but its always the same deal; maybe its the flat sole or the absence of real cushioning, dunno
ALL OF THISExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI skated in the Old-School "pros" and the Sk8-HIs "pros." I got a pair of the new SK8-HIs about two weeks ago. Normally when I get a new pair of shoes, I wear them for about two weeks before I even step on a board with them--I hate the "new" shoe feel on a board. So, I have not even skated in these yet. That said, here is my initial reactions to them. So far, most of it is negative.
(1) They are hot. Much hotter than the Pros.
(2) The tongue does not move, at all, because of the internal tongue straps. This is good, because I hated how the tongue would always slip around on the older versions. This also makes them much harder to put on/take off.
(3) I still have some pressure points around the little toe on one shoe. This never happened before with the Pros.
(4) Two weeks in and they still feel quite stiff, as in, not broken-in at all. Around two weeks is when I would normally start considering skating in the Pros. These do not feel like they are anywhere near "ready" yet. What that means long term remains to be seen. Further on this point, Vans always felt "comfy" to me, almost out of the box. These have not yet reached that state. When I got home from work last night I was dying to take them off. That never happened before with the Pros. I'll follow-up more as time goes on.
Anyone else had more in-depth experience with these yet?[close]
Follow-up from my own previous post. Despite my new Sk8-HIs not feeling "ready" yet, I took them for a quick session today. I realized after about 10 min of skating that while they are not "broken in" yet, that these were never going to feel "ready" in the same sense the Pros did, simply because the Skate version is stiffer. I made some peace with that, and just went on skating. There were three distinct things I noticed.
First, board feel is NOT the same. Pros def have the advantage on this. It's not like wearing cupsoles or anything, but it's not the board feel I loved about Vans.
Second, pop was much more crisp. This was a really interesting one, that took me a bit to figure out what I thought was going on here. But when I did, it made perfect sense. So, Pros are more flexible than the Skate line, which is stiffer. So, imagine running in sand, or trying to ollie on grass. Think about how much power/energy gets lost when you push-off/ollie, because the energy gets dissipated into the sand/grass. Now think about running/ollieing on hard concrete. You get a much more explosive run/ollie, because not as much energy is lost. To me, it seemed like this analogy was like Pros vs. Skate line. With the Skate line being stiffer, it felt like more direct power was transferred into my ollies/noilles, and as a result, the pop was much more crisp and responsive. The trade off, of course, is board feel. I'm really curious to see if anyone else noticed this "crisp pop" phenomena, or if it was just in my head.
Third, the comfy factory (mentioned in previous post) still isn't there. I skated for about 30 min, and afterwards I was really like, "Damn. I want to take these things OFF!"[close]
And today was my first mini ramp session in these. Here is what stood out:
(1) Board Feel was bad. I skate with Kingfoam Elite insoles. I feel like these give you even more board feel than the stock Vans insoles (maybe that's just me). Even with these in the Sk8-HIs, I almost felt like I was wearing cupsoles. After skating for a while, I started to adjust a bit, but it really just felt like I had cement shoes on.
(2) STIFF. For some reason I noticed this more on transition than street. They just felt really, really stiff.
(3) Sticky. Maybe the soles still need some breaking in, but my feet feel way more "stuck" to the board when adjusting feet in the flat bottom for next wall. This got kind of dicey with some of those micro-adjustments you have to make mid-trick/on the lip sometimes.
(4) Pressure points in toe box got real bad during run-outs. Bailing/running out of a trick on tranny really jams your foot into the toe of the shoe. The pressure points mentioned above started to get really sore after skating awhile because of this. Eventually I started knee-sliding (I wear knee pads on mini ramps) on bails that I would otherwise would have run-out of to avoid the pain of the run-outs.
(5) Get these off my feet! Again, when session was over, I wanted nothing more than to just take these shoes off.
None of this has ever happened to me with the Pros.
I was not too happy. Maybe I'll have to switch to the "regular" Vans, and that is a horrifying thought.
Does anyone know the closest shoe I can get to the first Kyle Walker Pro? I regrettably did not stock up when I had the chance and now they're harder to come by.
Does anyone know the closest shoe I can get to the first Kyle Walker Pro? I regrettably did not stock up when I had the chance and now they're harder to come by.I don't think there's anything in the Vans lineup that's too close. You could try the Crocketts which are a similar sole but closer to an Old Skool with padding and feel. My take on the KWalks is that they feel like a Vans version of a Reynolds so maybe something like the Spanky or the Gamma.
Expand QuoteTheir classic look its timeless and nice but my feet hurt just by walking on them
I still buy a pair from time to time, even years in between, in the hopes they change or feel different for me but its always the same deal; maybe its the flat sole or the absence of real cushioning, dunno[close]
I gave away my new authentics when I left New York yesterday and drove home 4 hrs barefoot. I could barely walk after a rough day of toe torture.
I didn't bring two shoes like a fool because I wanted to be fresh and clean for filming And I thought the authentics would be exactly the same as my new chukkas which are perfect.
I was dead wrong and I filmed zero frickin skating
I believe my problem is the high wrap foxing not the insoles.
And I've had the same problem with other high wrap shoes.
The GT green and gum being the worst of the toe crushers.
I just started skating a pair of the new Skate Sports and I’m digging the hell out of them so far. The shape is very blazer-like and fits my narrow foot really well. It’s stiff, but not in a bad way. It just feels like it’s gonna hold its shape for a while.
Coming off of the Rowans I was skating before this, sickstick or whatever the new outsole is is really a game changer. It wears super slow but it’s crazy grippy. Looks basically untouched after two heavy sessions. Haven’t even made a mark on the suede.
As a lace ripper, bottom laces holding up pretty good with a dab of super glue, but the top eyelet is gonna have to be left unlaced for me. Even laced down, they still hold my heel great.
Only gripe is I’m not sold on popcush. It just feels kind of hard and I don’t like the way it feels on the bottom of my foot. Maybe something about the material on top of it? Not sure. To be fair, I wasn’t really sold on the old insoles either though.
I’m digging them overall. As time goes on, if I can find last season’s colorways in the outlet half off like I could with the old skate pros, this will probably become my go-to shoe.
How do you think someone with a borderline wide foot would fare? I was looking at some on 6pm. For reference, I have some SB Blazer Mids that fit fairly well, but they (as do a lot of shoes) pinch my left pinky toe to numbness if I skate for more than a half hour.
That’s definitely an idea. I’d considered it before but I’m also somewhat lazy, if I’m honest. I wonder if the baby foxing on certain Vans models would even stretch.Expand Quote
How do you think someone with a borderline wide foot would fare? I was looking at some on 6pm. For reference, I have some SB Blazer Mids that fit fairly well, but they (as do a lot of shoes) pinch my left pinky toe to numbness if I skate for more than a half hour.[close]
Might be more trouble than it is worth, but for shoes that were too tight across, a shoe stretcher did wonders for me. Even something more simple like a piece of wood cut and slightly rounded to push the shoe out in the area you have issues has worked before too. Just a thought anyway. I modified my shoe stretchers with cardboard and tape to really push out the areas I needed stretched, which takes a bit more work, but had the best result.
That’s definitely an idea. I’d considered it before but I’m also somewhat lazy, if I’m honest. I wonder if the baby foxing on certain Vans models would even stretch.Expand QuoteExpand Quote
How do you think someone with a borderline wide foot would fare? I was looking at some on 6pm. For reference, I have some SB Blazer Mids that fit fairly well, but they (as do a lot of shoes) pinch my left pinky toe to numbness if I skate for more than a half hour.[close]
Might be more trouble than it is worth, but for shoes that were too tight across, a shoe stretcher did wonders for me. Even something more simple like a piece of wood cut and slightly rounded to push the shoe out in the area you have issues has worked before too. Just a thought anyway. I modified my shoe stretchers with cardboard and tape to really push out the areas I needed stretched, which takes a bit more work, but had the best result.[close]
Expand QuoteThat’s definitely an idea. I’d considered it before but I’m also somewhat lazy, if I’m honest. I wonder if the baby foxing on certain Vans models would even stretch.Expand QuoteExpand Quote
How do you think someone with a borderline wide foot would fare? I was looking at some on 6pm. For reference, I have some SB Blazer Mids that fit fairly well, but they (as do a lot of shoes) pinch my left pinky toe to numbness if I skate for more than a half hour.[close]
Might be more trouble than it is worth, but for shoes that were too tight across, a shoe stretcher did wonders for me. Even something more simple like a piece of wood cut and slightly rounded to push the shoe out in the area you have issues has worked before too. Just a thought anyway. I modified my shoe stretchers with cardboard and tape to really push out the areas I needed stretched, which takes a bit more work, but had the best result.[close][close]
Yeah I know and it took me way too long to get the idea in my head and go with it, but it paid off.
Overall the suede stretches the most, but this also translates to the shoe not feeling quite as tight for me in general too.
That is without doing anything really crazy like oven / microwave / heating it up so it will stretch more, etc.
The best thing with shoe stretchers is they are good to go and can be used indefinitely after you work out how to adjust them / modify them to exactly what you need, as well as being fairly cheap on ebay or other online platform.
I can wear / skate the new shoes for a bit to get them nice and warm / not quite sweaty, then put the shoe stretchers straight in and leave them overnight, so it will push out the shoe in the right places. Repeat a few times and the shoes are so totally different in terms of fit - no unhappy wear in period, so pretty much perfect after a couple of days of minimal wear and stretching.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteThat’s definitely an idea. I’d considered it before but I’m also somewhat lazy, if I’m honest. I wonder if the baby foxing on certain Vans models would even stretch.Expand QuoteExpand Quote
How do you think someone with a borderline wide foot would fare? I was looking at some on 6pm. For reference, I have some SB Blazer Mids that fit fairly well, but they (as do a lot of shoes) pinch my left pinky toe to numbness if I skate for more than a half hour.[close]
Might be more trouble than it is worth, but for shoes that were too tight across, a shoe stretcher did wonders for me. Even something more simple like a piece of wood cut and slightly rounded to push the shoe out in the area you have issues has worked before too. Just a thought anyway. I modified my shoe stretchers with cardboard and tape to really push out the areas I needed stretched, which takes a bit more work, but had the best result.[close][close]
Yeah I know and it took me way too long to get the idea in my head and go with it, but it paid off.
Overall the suede stretches the most, but this also translates to the shoe not feeling quite as tight for me in general too.
That is without doing anything really crazy like oven / microwave / heating it up so it will stretch more, etc.
The best thing with shoe stretchers is they are good to go and can be used indefinitely after you work out how to adjust them / modify them to exactly what you need, as well as being fairly cheap on ebay or other online platform.
I can wear / skate the new shoes for a bit to get them nice and warm / not quite sweaty, then put the shoe stretchers straight in and leave them overnight, so it will push out the shoe in the right places. Repeat a few times and the shoes are so totally different in terms of fit - no unhappy wear in period, so pretty much perfect after a couple of days of minimal wear and stretching.[close]
It’s funny you say that because I almost mentioned that I prefer suede shoes to canvas by far, and it’s because after awhile they almost mold to my feet.
to me, they’re a little wider in the toe box than blazer lows but not as wide as blazer mids. Like I said, I’ve got a stupid narrow foot, so I don’t really have much to go off of in that regard. If you can get into a store to try them on, that’s ultimately the best bet, though not as fun as late night impulse buys.Expand QuoteI just started skating a pair of the new Skate Sports and I’m digging the hell out of them so far. The shape is very blazer-like and fits my narrow foot really well. It’s stiff, but not in a bad way. It just feels like it’s gonna hold its shape for a while.
Coming off of the Rowans I was skating before this, sickstick or whatever the new outsole is is really a game changer. It wears super slow but it’s crazy grippy. Looks basically untouched after two heavy sessions. Haven’t even made a mark on the suede.
As a lace ripper, bottom laces holding up pretty good with a dab of super glue, but the top eyelet is gonna have to be left unlaced for me. Even laced down, they still hold my heel great.
Only gripe is I’m not sold on popcush. It just feels kind of hard and I don’t like the way it feels on the bottom of my foot. Maybe something about the material on top of it? Not sure. To be fair, I wasn’t really sold on the old insoles either though.
I’m digging them overall. As time goes on, if I can find last season’s colorways in the outlet half off like I could with the old skate pros, this will probably become my go-to shoe.[close]
How do you think someone with a borderline wide foot would fare? I was looking at some on 6pm. For reference, I have some SB Blazer Mids that fit fairly well, but they (as do a lot of shoes) pinch my left pinky toe to numbness if I skate for more than a half hour.
though not as fun as late night impulse buys.
Are the regular (no pro, no skate) Half Cabs discontinued? Can’t find nothing but those new SKATE ones and some random pro classics at least here in Europe.
Expand QuoteAre the regular (no pro, no skate) Half Cabs discontinued? Can’t find nothing but those new SKATE ones and some random pro classics at least here in Europe.[close]
I was going to say the classics are still available in the US as far as I know but they're no longer on the US Vans site and looks like they're out of a lot of sizes where they used to be readily available (zappos, skatewarehouse, tactics, ccs, etc.).
That would suck because I prefer the Classics over the Pros. (Haven't seen/skated the new Skate versions in real life but am not keeping my hopes up based on the reviews I've read so far.)
Sorry, no clue about Europe but hopefully another Pal can drop some knowledge.
Yeah haven’t seen regular half cabs here like since 2018. What a bummer, like those way better than the pros/skate...Expand QuoteExpand QuoteAre the regular (no pro, no skate) Half Cabs discontinued? Can’t find nothing but those new SKATE ones and some random pro classics at least here in Europe.[close]
I was going to say the classics are still available in the US as far as I know but they're no longer on the US Vans site and looks like they're out of a lot of sizes where they used to be readily available (zappos, skatewarehouse, tactics, ccs, etc.).
That would suck because I prefer the Classics over the Pros. (Haven't seen/skated the new Skate versions in real life but am not keeping my hopes up based on the reviews I've read so far.)
Sorry, no clue about Europe but hopefully another Pal can drop some knowledge.[close]
Same in Australia, the classic Half Cabs come in, they sit, they go on sale, they clear out, then they come in again next season at a higher price again, which is weird as they are the same standard lines they have always been, even with a few tweaks along the way, so who knows what is going on with them.
Just checked again on vans.com.au and the black / white classics are at about 20% off and the navy / white classics are 50% off.
Even the new Skate Half Cabs in black / white are already 20% off too, which is ridiculous, but who knows in the Half Cab market.
Anyone have experience with the Crockett High Pro? I normally skate the Sk8-Hi and they look pretty similar besides being cup sole vs vulcanized.I've had both the sk8 hi pros and the crockett highs and besides being high top vans, they couldn't be more different. The crocketts were way more comfy for me since it doesn't have the stitching at the forefoot like the sk8 highs. Obviously the waffle cup makes the crocketts more supportive and the board feel is good for a cup hybrid after breaking it in. the shape is also more fluid like a gradual arrow on the crocketts when compared to the skate his which to me have a more abrupt toe shape where the stitching is.
I've had both the sk8 hi pros and the crockett highs and besides being high top vans, they couldn't be more different. The crocketts were way more comfy for me since it doesn't have the stitching at the forefoot like the sk8 highs. Obviously the waffle cup makes the crocketts more supportive and the board feel is good for a cup hybrid after breaking it in. the shape is also more fluid like a gradual arrow on the crocketts when compared to the skate his which to me have a more abrupt toe shape where the stitching is.Expand QuoteAnyone have experience with the Crockett High Pro? I normally skate the Sk8-Hi and they look pretty similar besides being cup sole vs vulcanized.[close]
Currently skating skate old skools and by far hating them with every cell of my body. Feel way too stiff and there is too much rubber on the toe area of the shoes. Maybe they will break in some day... been skating them for like 5 sessions (over 2h each).
Expand QuoteCurrently skating skate old skools and by far hating them with every cell of my body. Feel way too stiff and there is too much rubber on the toe area of the shoes. Maybe they will break in some day... been skating them for like 5 sessions (over 2h each).[close]
Damn, as a Sk8-hi guy I was looking at the old skools as a secondary shoe. I noticed with the newer Vans that I have to wear thinner socks or go up a half size in the case of slip ons.
I just got a pair of the Grosso Mids, they look and feel sick but they're either a tiny bit more snug or my feet are swollen from skating yesterday :(
I skated in the skate era's for the first time yesterday I really like them unfortunately
About an hour or so in I was starting to get a pretty nasty blister on back of my heel
I assume that's normal for those of you dedicated to vans.
Besides that first impressions insoles and sole are more to my liking than the pro's
Im currently on my last pair of half cab pros and they're getting pretty roached. I want to order a pair of the skate half cabs and the skate sk8 highs but the fact that they decided to call them skate sk8 highs is making it really hard lol. May say fuck it and try out some emericas idk.
I can't understand how people can skate shoes that gave them blister or bloody feet. Tried skate old skools and they were bad, tried slip ons and they were a fucking nightmare.
anyone know if the new lifestyle shoe (EVDNT) means the AVE pros are discontinued or it means there will be more AVE pros?I would say to to both of your questions. They already had those mod slip ons (which looked interesting and) and life didn't changed.
Expand QuoteI would say to to both of your questions. They already had those mod slip ons (which looked interesting and) and life didn't changed.Expand Quoteanyone know if the new lifestyle shoe (EVDNT) means the AVE pros are discontinued or it means there will be more AVE pros?[close][close]
I just wonder if I should stock up. a lot of color way aren't around and my local shops (and vans mall shops) dont have them anymore.
Sorry if this is the wrong thread for this, but has anyone got a good method for removing the glued in insoles that come with Vans classics?Hairdryer for like a minute (aiming "inside" of the shoe) and then you should be ok. You could use a metallic ruler or sth similar if you need extra help.
I recently got three pairs of all black Sports absolutely dirt cheap ($40au each) from that Platypus site.
They look amazing but feel like cement boots. I want to put some of my old popcush insoles in there but those fucking insoles won't budge.
Hairdryer for like a minute (aiming "inside" of the shoe) and then you should be ok. You could use a metallic ruler or sth similar if you need extra help.Expand QuoteSorry if this is the wrong thread for this, but has anyone got a good method for removing the glued in insoles that come with Vans classics?
I recently got three pairs of all black Sports absolutely dirt cheap ($40au each) from that Platypus site.
They look amazing but feel like cement boots. I want to put some of my old popcush insoles in there but those fucking insoles won't budge.[close]
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Couldn't find a fitting thread for my question so I am going to post it here:
Does somebody know how the Vans style 73 dx fit?
The last vans i bought were the Vans Slip On Pro in 9.5 but i hated those because they where to tight for my wide feed.
http://sneakerbardetroit.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Vans-Anaheim-Factory-Style-73-DX.jpg
Expand QuoteCouldn't find a fitting thread for my question so I am going to post it here:
Does somebody know how the Vans style 73 dx fit?
The last vans i bought were the Vans Slip On Pro in 9.5 but i hated those because they where to tight for my wide feed.
http://sneakerbardetroit.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Vans-Anaheim-Factory-Style-73-DX.jpg[close]
if those are the anaheim's go half a size up at least. i wear 10 in most vans skate and when i got those in a size 10 in a wine color they were way too snug on my toes.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteCouldn't find a fitting thread for my question so I am going to post it here:
Does somebody know how the Vans style 73 dx fit?
The last vans i bought were the Vans Slip On Pro in 9.5 but i hated those because they where to tight for my wide feed.
http://sneakerbardetroit.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Vans-Anaheim-Factory-Style-73-DX.jpg[close]
if those are the anaheim's go half a size up at least. i wear 10 in most vans skate and when i got those in a size 10 in a wine color they were way too snug on my toes.[close]
Thanks for the Info. I just heard from my local that the anaheims are only distributed via sneaker shops and vans online. Kinda bumms me out.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteCouldn't find a fitting thread for my question so I am going to post it here:
Does somebody know how the Vans style 73 dx fit?
The last vans i bought were the Vans Slip On Pro in 9.5 but i hated those because they where to tight for my wide feed.
http://sneakerbardetroit.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Vans-Anaheim-Factory-Style-73-DX.jpg[close]
if those are the anaheim's go half a size up at least. i wear 10 in most vans skate and when i got those in a size 10 in a wine color they were way too snug on my toes.[close]
Thanks for the Info. I just heard from my local that the anaheims are only distributed via sneaker shops and vans online. Kinda bumms me out.[close]
That same model was redone in their new Skate build that replaced the Pro build. Used to be called the Epoch Sport Pro and is now just called the Skate Sport, I think. I skated a pair that I just retired, they definitely fit less snug than a Slip On Pro, they stretch pretty well to break in because of all of the suede in the toe and how the lacing opening is situated. I have a wide foot as well.
Went in an ordered a pair of the Eco Theory skate highs. Curious to see what kind of insole they have, looks like they used cork.
Expand QuoteWent in an ordered a pair of the Eco Theory skate highs. Curious to see what kind of insole they have, looks like they used cork.[close]
nice, i saw those, they look pretty cool. the slip ons on the other hand look kind of cheap. interested about a little review if only for comfort if you don't plan to skate them.
Expand QuoteWent in an ordered a pair of the Eco Theory skate highs. Curious to see what kind of insole they have, looks like they used cork.[close]
nice, i saw those, they look pretty cool. the slip ons on the other hand look kind of cheap. interested about a little review if only for comfort if you don't plan to skate them.
I posted a review of the eco theory old skool/38s in the vegan thread. It's a nice poly insole with just a printed cork lining on the top. The insole is not quite as thick as popcush/ultracush in the pro skate lines but it's close. If you ever had a pair of the "made for the makers" series, it's the same insole.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteWent in an ordered a pair of the Eco Theory skate highs. Curious to see what kind of insole they have, looks like they used cork.[close]
nice, i saw those, they look pretty cool. the slip ons on the other hand look kind of cheap. interested about a little review if only for comfort if you don't plan to skate them.[close]
These will just be for regular wear, but I’ll post when I finally get them
We have changed the construction on the toe on the Crockett 2 to be made with one piece of suede rather than 2. This update will give this shoe more durability and a longer life. It is also more comfortable since there are no seams at the front of the shoe where you get the most wear. 3rd slide are some samples that will be made and some that will not. Maybe we can get @vans to make the marshmallow color again (middle bottom) since we’ve updated the construction. Thanks for stopping byQuoteExpand Quote
https://www.instagram.com/p/CRE8qR7Aaao/[close]
The new skate line is available for a while now, what is the consensus about them?I can't speak on the Skate Sk8 Hi-s but stiff and snug are two adjectives I would use to describe Skate Half Cabs. I love them and think they are a vast improvement over the Pros but maybe you like the squish? From what I have heard, all of the Skate line have increased stiffness and a tighter fit. I also tried the Slip-Ons and found them to be stiff and snug but felt that ruined the fit and I came away not liking them much.
I am thinking about trying the skate sk8-hi. Have some halfcab pros and although they are mad comfy, they bag out a lot and aren't snug enough for me for skating.
Are the skate sk8-hi a bit more stiff and snug as the pro line?
https://www.vans.com/shop/wayvee-tyson-black-asphaltHas anyone picked these up yet?
(https://images.vans.com/is/image/Vans/JIA9DJ-HERO?$583x583$)
the only reason i haven't tried the new old skool's are because they still have the canvas side panel. i wish they made it all suede. the rowan pro's are top notch though. they've been holding up REALLY well. but as usual, the regular laces rip. just get some unbreakable laces and you're golden.The rowans are probably one of my favorite skate shoe. I've been on a cup sole kick for a minute but I'm gonna grab a pair today. They are probably the most supportive vulcanized shoe I've tried so far.
Hell yeah. i didn't like them at first because they were mids but after a while, they feel just as mobile and free as a pair of low tops. i don't even notice the extra height added to them, which is a good thing. the ankle support is there without it being bothersome.The rowans are probably one of my favorite skate shoe. I've been on a cup sole kick for a minute but I'm gonna grab a pair today. They are probably the most supportive vulcanized shoe I've tried so far.Expand Quotethe only reason i haven't tried the new old skool's are because they still have the canvas side panel. i wish they made it all suede. the rowan pro's are top notch though. they've been holding up REALLY well. but as usual, the regular laces rip. just get some unbreakable laces and you're golden.[close]
Most definitely an amazing shoe. Very supportive without losing board feel and it also looks good with any outfit.Hell yeah. i didn't like them at first because they were mids but after a while, they feel just as mobile and free as a pair of low tops. i don't even notice the extra height added to them, which is a good thing. the ankle support is there without it being bothersome.Expand QuoteThe rowans are probably one of my favorite skate shoe. I've been on a cup sole kick for a minute but I'm gonna grab a pair today. They are probably the most supportive vulcanized shoe I've tried so far.Expand Quotethe only reason i haven't tried the new old skool's are because they still have the canvas side panel. i wish they made it all suede. the rowan pro's are top notch though. they've been holding up REALLY well. but as usual, the regular laces rip. just get some unbreakable laces and you're golden.[close][close]
best shoe in the whole vans lineup tbh. no gimmicks or stupid see-through sole. just a solidly designed shoe with all the suede where its supposed to be.Most definitely an amazing shoe. Very supportive without losing board feel and it also looks good with any outfit.Expand QuoteHell yeah. i didn't like them at first because they were mids but after a while, they feel just as mobile and free as a pair of low tops. i don't even notice the extra height added to them, which is a good thing. the ankle support is there without it being bothersome.Expand QuoteThe rowans are probably one of my favorite skate shoe. I've been on a cup sole kick for a minute but I'm gonna grab a pair today. They are probably the most supportive vulcanized shoe I've tried so far.Expand Quotethe only reason i haven't tried the new old skool's are because they still have the canvas side panel. i wish they made it all suede. the rowan pro's are top notch though. they've been holding up REALLY well. but as usual, the regular laces rip. just get some unbreakable laces and you're golden.[close][close][close]
best shoe in the whole vans lineup tbh. no gimmicks or stupid see-through sole. just a solidly designed shoe with all the suede where its supposed to be.Expand QuoteMost definitely an amazing shoe. Very supportive without losing board feel and it also looks good with any outfit.Expand QuoteHell yeah. i didn't like them at first because they were mids but after a while, they feel just as mobile and free as a pair of low tops. i don't even notice the extra height added to them, which is a good thing. the ankle support is there without it being bothersome.Expand QuoteThe rowans are probably one of my favorite skate shoe. I've been on a cup sole kick for a minute but I'm gonna grab a pair today. They are probably the most supportive vulcanized shoe I've tried so far.Expand Quotethe only reason i haven't tried the new old skool's are because they still have the canvas side panel. i wish they made it all suede. the rowan pro's are top notch though. they've been holding up REALLY well. but as usual, the regular laces rip. just get some unbreakable laces and you're golden.[close][close][close][close]
Has anyone picked these up yet?Expand Quotehttps://www.vans.com/shop/wayvee-tyson-black-asphalt
(https://images.vans.com/is/image/Vans/JIA9DJ-HERO?$583x583$)[close]
The grey pair isn't bad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBeln7EdnkQ
for those interested. Mesh seems to blow out quick. I have no earthly idea why vans never extends the duracap to cover that area. I blow through that way quicker than my toes on most shoes. The crockett highs and rowans have duracap rubber over the side but I believe most other vans models do not.
I have the dime wayvees and after the video I will def be just using them as chillers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBeln7EdnkQoh wow that kid casually fucking killed it for a shoe review lol
for those interested. Mesh seems to blow out quick. I have no earthly idea why vans never extends the duracap to cover that area. I blow through that way quicker than my toes on most shoes. The crockett highs and rowans have duracap rubber over the side but I believe most other vans models do not.
I have the dime wayvees and after the video I will def be just using them as chillers
oh wow that kid casually fucking killed it for a shoe review lolExpand Quotehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBeln7EdnkQ
for those interested. Mesh seems to blow out quick. I have no earthly idea why vans never extends the duracap to cover that area. I blow through that way quicker than my toes on most shoes. The crockett highs and rowans have duracap rubber over the side but I believe most other vans models do not.
I have the dime wayvees and after the video I will def be just using them as chillers[close]
he tore a hole to the shoe AND the park !
I saw a story of Justin Henry skating what looked like all black wayvees, gonna hold up for those
Better pic of them here if you scroll down a bit:oh wow that kid casually fucking killed it for a shoe review lolExpand Quotehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBeln7EdnkQ
for those interested. Mesh seems to blow out quick. I have no earthly idea why vans never extends the duracap to cover that area. I blow through that way quicker than my toes on most shoes. The crockett highs and rowans have duracap rubber over the side but I believe most other vans models do not.
I have the dime wayvees and after the video I will def be just using them as chillers[close]
he tore a hole to the shoe AND the park !
I saw a story of Justin Henry skating what looked like all black wayvees, gonna hold up for those
Expand Quoteoh wow that kid casually fucking killed it for a shoe review lolExpand Quote
for those interested. Mesh seems to blow out quick. I have no earthly idea why vans never extends the duracap to cover that area. I blow through that way quicker than my toes on most shoes. The crockett highs and rowans have duracap rubber over the side but I believe most other vans models do not.
I have the dime wayvees and after the video I will def be just using them as chillers[close]
he tore a hole to the shoe AND the park !
I saw a story of Justin Henry skating what looked like all black wayvees, gonna hold up for those[close]
Damn whoever that kid is ,he is a ripper. Fucking front willie looked good. Now homie has me thinking if I should try learning willies. Ha
Expand QuoteI can't speak on the Skate Sk8 Hi-s but stiff and snug are two adjectives I would use to describe Skate Half Cabs. I love them and think they are a vast improvement over the Pros but maybe you like the squish? From what I have heard, all of the Skate line have increased stiffness and a tighter fit. I also tried the Slip-Ons and found them to be stiff and snug but felt that ruined the fit and I came away not liking them much.Expand QuoteThe new skate line is available for a while now, what is the consensus about them?
I am thinking about trying the skate sk8-hi. Have some halfcab pros and although they are mad comfy, they bag out a lot and aren't snug enough for me for skating.
Are the skate sk8-hi a bit more stiff and snug as the pro line?[close][close]
a few hours in and I feel the same regarding the skate half cabs. the fit very well and I'd say they're snug but don't squeeze my fairly wide feet (for reference, Adidas, NB#, èS are all too tight on my feet). My feet aren't sore after skating and it feels like there is more support- while there's no arch support per say, my arch/medial ankle-heel isn't dumping or dropping down in these). I guess the thing will be to see how long they stay this way.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI can't speak on the Skate Sk8 Hi-s but stiff and snug are two adjectives I would use to describe Skate Half Cabs. I love them and think they are a vast improvement over the Pros but maybe you like the squish? From what I have heard, all of the Skate line have increased stiffness and a tighter fit. I also tried the Slip-Ons and found them to be stiff and snug but felt that ruined the fit and I came away not liking them much.Expand QuoteThe new skate line is available for a while now, what is the consensus about them?
I am thinking about trying the skate sk8-hi. Have some halfcab pros and although they are mad comfy, they bag out a lot and aren't snug enough for me for skating.
Are the skate sk8-hi a bit more stiff and snug as the pro line?[close][close]
a few hours in and I feel the same regarding the skate half cabs. the fit very well and I'd say they're snug but don't squeeze my fairly wide feet (for reference, Adidas, NB#, èS are all too tight on my feet). My feet aren't sore after skating and it feels like there is more support- while there's no arch support per say, my arch/medial ankle-heel isn't dumping or dropping down in these). I guess the thing will be to see how long they stay this way.[close]
Thanks to you two, sounds pretty good to me.
Vans has been shitting the bed for a few years.
Lets all remember vans from the 90’s…they are quickly going in that direction again.
I just saw someone on the vans reddit (cringe i know) with some pleather AA era highs with the new checkered tag instead of the old vans one. Hopefully they make a run of the era high(https://www.tactics.com/a/d2dm/1b/vans-skate-authentic-high-shoes-pearl-leather-black.jpg)
I dig em, they look sick
(https://www.tactics.com/a/d2dm/1b/vans-skate-authentic-high-shoes-pearl-leather-black.jpg)Expand QuoteI just saw someone on the vans reddit (cringe i know) with some pleather AA era highs with the new checkered tag instead of the old vans one. Hopefully they make a run of the era high[close]
AA is Andrew Allen apparently for anyone else who was wondering
Tactics has them https://www.tactics.com/vans/skate-authentic-high-shoes/pearl-leather-black (https://www.tactics.com/vans/skate-authentic-high-shoes/pearl-leather-black)
These look so fucking ugly though
They had terrible shoes in the 90’s. That whole pro line sucked. Trying to keep up with osiris and etnies. Wasn’t until rowley came around that they were worth wearing and i loved all that stuff.Expand QuoteVans has been shitting the bed for a few years.
Lets all remember vans from the 90’s…they are quickly going in that direction again.[close]
I disagree. Vans had some great shoes in the 90s as well as some clunkers. Same as today.
The Vans Skate Classic shoes are the best versions of the classic shoes yet. The Wayvee might not be the best looking shoe but it skates well.
Are the walker pro (the first one) as narrow in the forefoot/toebox as the crockett high? I've been wearing wider toe-box athletic shoes and now I can't wear my fucking crocketts
Expand QuoteAre the walker pro (the first one) as narrow in the forefoot/toebox as the crockett high? I've been wearing wider toe-box athletic shoes and now I can't wear my fucking crocketts[close]
I haven't tried the Crockett's, but I find the forefoot/toe box of the walker pro's to be pretty narrow. The laces start pretty high so you don't can't really give yourself extra room by lacing them a little looser.
Do the old Skool skates and half cab skates fit similarly? Love the fit of the half cabs and was wondering if I should order the same size for the old skools . Local doesn’t have any in stock and I don’t want to get them at the local vans store.
Expand QuoteDo the old Skool skates and half cab skates fit similarly? Love the fit of the half cabs and was wondering if I should order the same size for the old skools . Local doesn’t have any in stock and I don’t want to get them at the local vans store.[close]
No. The toe box is much more narrow on old skools. I loved how i skated wearing them but my feet hated me
Do the old Skool skates and half cab skates fit similarly? Love the fit of the half cabs and was wondering if I should order the same size for the old skools . Local doesn’t have any in stock and I don’t want to get them at the local vans store.No. If I was you, I would stick to the half cabs. I had the old skools and hated them but then got the half cabs and I love them. Size-wise they fit the same for length but keep in mind that the old skools are slimmer. If you have a regular width foot then get the same size, but I would recommend just getting a new pair of the half cabs ;D
Do the old Skool skates and half cab skates fit similarly? Love the fit of the half cabs and was wondering if I should order the same size for the old skools . Local doesn’t have any in stock and I don’t want to get them at the local vans store.
I been skating those skate Half-Cabs for a while now. It wasn't the easiest switch from Sk8-Highs and Old Skools I skated for years before, as the Half-Cabs didn't really have the same board feel, especially the midsole part felt really stiff before the shoes were worn in, and that took few weeks. But after that, they've been great.You have them laced all the way up?
But I've been wanting to get brown half-cabs for a long time (because you know, Stranger (https://www.thrashermagazine.com/imagesV2/Magazine/Covers/COVERS_THRASHER/1993/TH9305.jpg) , so I was stoked on the Reynolds Half-Cabs 92's.
Wasn't supposed to buy any shoes today, but the local shop had the Reynolds in my size, I put them on and holy shit they felt good right away.
The 92's have a bit different stitching on the top cap compared to the modern Half-Cab, which probably is bad news if your flips/ollies use that part of the shoe, but it really changes how the shoes feel for some reason. Definitely looking forward to skate these.
(https://i.imgur.com/dFmUtRIl.jpg?1)
The "Skate" Old Schools use different material on the heel tap (some kind of faux leather instead of canvas) and fuck it will kill your achilles immediately. Almost got blisters just from walking hundred meters to get some groceries and my friends have had the exact same experience.
A real up & coming Oregon ripper…Expand Quoteoh wow that kid casually fucking killed it for a shoe review lolExpand Quotehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBeln7EdnkQ
for those interested. Mesh seems to blow out quick. I have no earthly idea why vans never extends the duracap to cover that area. I blow through that way quicker than my toes on most shoes. The crockett highs and rowans have duracap rubber over the side but I believe most other vans models do not.
I have the dime wayvees and after the video I will def be just using them as chillers[close]
he tore a hole to the shoe AND the park !
I saw a story of Justin Henry skating what looked like all black wayvees, gonna hold up for those[close]
Damn whoever that kid is ,he is a ripper. Fucking front willie looked good. Now homie has me thinking if I should try learning willies. Ha
Anyone skate the revamped Rowley pros? I've wanted a pair but i generally buy all my vans second hand and a lot of people around here didn't get them. I normally skate the rowans or half cabs or slip on pros because of my big wide feet.
Expand QuoteAnyone skate the revamped Rowley pros? I've wanted a pair but i generally buy all my vans second hand and a lot of people around here didn't get them. I normally skate the rowans or half cabs or slip on pros because of my big wide feet.[close]
they are amazing. similar fit to the Rowans, except more comfortable and a little less stiff. the pair I recently had were the navy ones and had the rapi-weld tech...not the more current all leather ones. also, they had a thinner insole... not the super bulky Pop Cush ones, but were still comfy/cushioned enough.
(http://soloskatemag.com/upload/Storage/image003_191106_103139.jpg)
i cant find em for sale anywhere anymore. so, this post may be completely useless for your purposes.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteAnyone skate the revamped Rowley pros? I've wanted a pair but i generally buy all my vans second hand and a lot of people around here didn't get them. I normally skate the rowans or half cabs or slip on pros because of my big wide feet.[close]
they are amazing. similar fit to the Rowans, except more comfortable and a little less stiff. the pair I recently had were the navy ones and had the rapi-weld tech...not the more current all leather ones. also, they had a thinner insole... not the super bulky Pop Cush ones, but were still comfy/cushioned enough.
(http://soloskatemag.com/upload/Storage/image003_191106_103139.jpg)
i cant find em for sale anywhere anymore. so, this post may be completely useless for your purposes.[close]
Thanks homie, i found someone on offer up that might still sell them to me, i might give it a try
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteAnyone skate the revamped Rowley pros? I've wanted a pair but i generally buy all my vans second hand and a lot of people around here didn't get them. I normally skate the rowans or half cabs or slip on pros because of my big wide feet.[close]
they are amazing. similar fit to the Rowans, except more comfortable and a little less stiff. the pair I recently had were the navy ones and had the rapi-weld tech...not the more current all leather ones. also, they had a thinner insole... not the super bulky Pop Cush ones, but were still comfy/cushioned enough.
(http://soloskatemag.com/upload/Storage/image003_191106_103139.jpg)
i cant find em for sale anywhere anymore. so, this post may be completely useless for your purposes.[close]
Thanks homie, i found someone on offer up that might still sell them to me, i might give it a try[close]
damn if you'e a size 10 i just listed a pair of these on poshmark.
I been skating those skate Half-Cabs for a while now. It wasn't the easiest switch from Sk8-Highs and Old Skools I skated for years before, as the Half-Cabs didn't really have the same board feel, especially the midsole part felt really stiff before the shoes were worn in, and that took few weeks. But after that, they've been great.
But I've been wanting to get brown half-cabs for a long time (because you know, Stranger (https://www.thrashermagazine.com/imagesV2/Magazine/Covers/COVERS_THRASHER/1993/TH9305.jpg) , so I was stoked on the Reynolds Half-Cabs 92's.
Wasn't supposed to buy any shoes today, but the local shop had the Reynolds in my size, I put them on and holy shit they felt good right away.
The 92's have a bit different stitching on the top cap compared to the modern Half-Cab, which probably is bad news if your flips/ollies use that part of the shoe, but it really changes how the shoes feel for some reason. Definitely looking forward to skate these.
(https://i.imgur.com/dFmUtRIl.jpg?1)
The "Skate" Old Schools use different material on the heel tap (some kind of faux leather instead of canvas) and fuck it will kill your achilles immediately. Almost got blisters just from walking hundred meters to get some groceries and my friends have had the exact same experience.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CT7_tRPFzCh/
see these on 561 the other day... is this going to be a new silhouette?? I copped a pair of the dime skate mid skools and refuse to skate them, BUT THEY LOOK PERFECT. If its the same silhouette, Id be stoked to skate em, nice toe box (bordering on the wider side) , tons of padding around ankles & stitching looks pretty promising.... Vans' take on the Blazer lol
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see these on 561 the other day... is this going to be a new silhouette?? I copped a pair of the dime skate mid skools and refuse to skate them, BUT THEY LOOK PERFECT. If its the same silhouette, Id be stoked to skate em, nice toe box (bordering on the wider side) , tons of padding around ankles & stitching looks pretty promising.... Vans' take on the Blazer lol[close]
I’m digging these, throwing off some TNT SG vibes…but their take on blazers no doubt.
Anyone skate the revamped Rowley pros? I've wanted a pair but i generally buy all my vans second hand and a lot of people around here didn't get them. I normally skate the rowans or half cabs or slip on pros because of my big wide feet.
Have literally never skated a pair of vans ever, but how are the wayvees? I usually skate jordan 1 lows, dunks, or new balance cupsoles (440s, 913s etc). Are they narrow or wide, do they feel supportive and stable compared to nike and new balance cups?
If anyone wanted to see those Macdonalds fry cook Authentic highs on foot here you go (not my pic)
(https://preview.redd.it/dv5d9t8wcrn71.jpg?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=30cd9cd444f82b868ea14598ca324b396fb7c1b8)
Have literally never skated a pair of vans ever, but how are the wayvees? I usually skate jordan 1 lows, dunks, or new balance cupsoles (440s, 913s etc). Are they narrow or wide, do they feel supportive and stable compared to nike and new balance cups?
Same here. Sorry of remind me of desert boots.Expand QuoteIf anyone wanted to see those Macdonalds fry cook Authentic highs on foot here you go (not my pic)
(https://preview.redd.it/dv5d9t8wcrn71.jpg?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=30cd9cd444f82b868ea14598ca324b396fb7c1b8)[close]
Damn i still want them even though they look goofy
They look like OG Star Trek boots. I am not entirely sure that's a criticism. There was a time in my life where I woulda fucked with them heavySame here. Sorry of remind me of desert boots.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteIf anyone wanted to see those Macdonalds fry cook Authentic highs on foot here you go (not my pic)
(https://preview.redd.it/dv5d9t8wcrn71.jpg?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=30cd9cd444f82b868ea14598ca324b396fb7c1b8)[close]
Damn i still want them even though they look goofy[close]
Slightly too late cause I ordered them already but does the skate half cabs run TTS?
Expand QuoteSlightly too late cause I ordered them already but does the skate half cabs run TTS?[close]
Yes.
Expand Quotehttps://www.instagram.com/p/CT7_tRPFzCh/
see these on 561 the other day... is this going to be a new silhouette?? I copped a pair of the dime skate mid skools and refuse to skate them, BUT THEY LOOK PERFECT. If its the same silhouette, Id be stoked to skate em, nice toe box (bordering on the wider side) , tons of padding around ankles & stitching looks pretty promising.... Vans' take on the Blazer lol[close]
I’m digging these, throwing off some TNT SG vibes…but their take on blazers no doubt.
classic mid.I cannot find a thing about this model lol.
I cannot find a thing about this model lol.Expand Quoteclassic mid.[close]
I hated my Skate Half Cabs and Half Cab pros from awhile back but loved the og Half Cabs and had multiple pairs years ago… that being said, should I even try the ‘92s out? I mean they look great and I’m a sucker for that shade of yellow on shoes.I have 4 pairs of Skate Half Cabs including the 92s and they all feel the same on my foot
Idk why I thought they’d be any different but that’s pretty much what I was afraid of. Oh wellI have 4 pairs of Skate Half Cabs including the 92s and they all feel the same on my footExpand QuoteI hated my Skate Half Cabs and Half Cab pros from awhile back but loved the og Half Cabs and had multiple pairs years ago… that being said, should I even try the ‘92s out? I mean they look great and I’m a sucker for that shade of yellow on shoes.[close]
anyone have the gilbert 3s yet? are they super thin? how do they compare to blazers?
sorry, when i say gil 3s i'm just referring to the high top onesOhhh that makes sense!! I have Blazers but don't have Crockett Highs. Have tried them on, though. They are both similar in sole flexibility and how they feel under your feet.. Blazer has more ankle cushioning, but Gilby has a more rigid/secure heel counter/cup. Toe boxes are different so that feels different but not too much.
Curious about the wayvees. They look like they would skate well
Expand QuoteCurious about the wayvees. They look like they would skate well[close]
Also curious about the wayvees. The Henry ones look so dope but my girlfriend thinks they all look bad.
anyone have the gilbert 3s yet? are they super thin? how do they compare to blazers?
Expand QuoteCurious about the wayvees. They look like they would skate well[close]
Also curious about the wayvees. The Henry ones look so dope but my girlfriend thinks they all look bad.
Expand QuoteCurious about the wayvees. They look like they would skate well[close]
Also curious about the wayvees. The Henry ones look so dope but my girlfriend thinks they all look bad.
would you say the soles of the gilberts are more cushioned than blazers?Expand QuoteExpand Quoteanyone have the gilbert 3s yet? are they super thin? how do they compare to blazers?[close]
Thinner upper and chunkier sole due to the wafflecup. Blazers are vulc with more ankle padding.[close]
would you say the soles of the gilberts are more cushioned than blazers?Expand QuoteExpand Quoteanyone have the gilbert 3s yet? are they super thin? how do they compare to blazers?[close]
Thinner upper and chunkier sole due to the wafflecup. Blazers are vulc with more ankle padding.[close]
Expand Quotewould you say the soles of the gilberts are more cushioned than blazers?Expand QuoteExpand Quoteanyone have the gilbert 3s yet? are they super thin? how do they compare to blazers?[close]
Thinner upper and chunkier sole due to the wafflecup. Blazers are vulc with more ankle padding.[close][close]
1,000% - it's a great shoe.
My only choice from Vans that I would skate. The Rowans were cool but Gilberts are more comfy imo
Expand QuoteMy only choice from Vans that I would skate. The Rowans were cool but Gilberts are more comfy imo[close]
The Rowans are too chunky. They're comfy but not that good for flip tricks. Gilbies are perfect.
Expand QuoteMy only choice from Vans that I would skate. The Rowans were cool but Gilberts are more comfy imo[close]
The Rowans are too chunky. They're comfy but not that good for flip tricks. Gilbies are perfect.
What are people's experiences with Van’s leather? I just saw these half cabs...
(https://images.vans.com/is/image/Vans/KYA82E-HERO?$583x583$)
...and was wondering how they'd skate compared to suede ones.
I think the Skate Old Skools are my favorite show of all time. I love the increased tread depth on the sole. Didn’t wear through it after 3 months of skating. (mainly skate transition and curbs.)
Expand QuoteI think the Skate Old Skools are my favorite show of all time. I love the increased tread depth on the sole. Didn’t wear through it after 3 months of skating. (mainly skate transition and curbs.)[close]
Are the skate old skools a bit narrower around the toes? I tried the Rowan pro, but the toe room was way too much for me.
Been thinking about getting a pair of half cabs on Friday. Never had a pair. What do I need to know?Expand QuoteWhat are people's experiences with Van’s leather? I just saw these half cabs...
(https://images.vans.com/is/image/Vans/KYA82E-HERO?$583x583$)
...and was wondering how they'd skate compared to suede ones.[close]
I’ve got these exact shoes and the Reynolds as well. The Leather took a few sessions to break in and was stiffer at first. Pretty logical, but once broken in they’re about the same I can’t really tell.
Been thinking about getting a pair of half cabs on Friday. Never had a pair. What do I need to know?Expand QuoteExpand QuoteWhat are people's experiences with Van’s leather? I just saw these half cabs...
(https://images.vans.com/is/image/Vans/KYA82E-HERO?$583x583$)
...and was wondering how they'd skate compared to suede ones.[close]
I’ve got these exact shoes and the Reynolds as well. The Leather took a few sessions to break in and was stiffer at first. Pretty logical, but once broken in they’re about the same I can’t really tell.[close]
Also, tongue centering straps should be mandatory on all shoes.
Been thinking about getting a pair of half cabs on Friday. Never had a pair. What do I need to know?Expand QuoteExpand QuoteWhat are people's experiences with Van’s leather? I just saw these half cabs...
(https://images.vans.com/is/image/Vans/KYA82E-HERO?$583x583$)
...and was wondering how they'd skate compared to suede ones.[close]
I’ve got these exact shoes and the Reynolds as well. The Leather took a few sessions to break in and was stiffer at first. Pretty logical, but once broken in they’re about the same I can’t really tell.[close]
Been thinking about getting a pair of half cabs on Friday. Never had a pair. What do I need to know?Expand QuoteExpand QuoteWhat are people's experiences with Van’s leather? I just saw these half cabs...
(https://images.vans.com/is/image/Vans/KYA82E-HERO?$583x583$)
...and was wondering how they'd skate compared to suede ones.[close]
I’ve got these exact shoes and the Reynolds as well. The Leather took a few sessions to break in and was stiffer at first. Pretty logical, but once broken in they’re about the same I can’t really tell.[close]
wish they'd bring back the Dr. T.
wish they'd bring back the Dr. T.
ok so i know its been discussed before, but the new skate slip-ons are unbearable to wear. i wore them for the day yesterday running errands and they were more difficult to put on than any pair of sneaker i own, with or without laces. by about 2 hours in my feet actually hurt. the entire canvas upper felt overly stiff and really had no flex to it at all.
do these break in after time, or has anyone else had different experiences? i loved how the slip on pro's felt, but these things are not for me at all
alright maybe i'll be a little patient with them. i definitely couldnt skate them brand new, but lets see if time tells a diff story
I wore mine for 2 or 3 walks around my neighbourhood. Among other fit problems, the collar absolutely obliterated my heel/achilles each time and didn't seem to be getting any better, so I just put them in a closet and forgot about them. It's not slip-on weather here anymore, so maybe I'll give them another try in the spring. Best of luck to anyone more patient than me.
Expand QuoteI wore mine for 2 or 3 walks around my neighbourhood. Among other fit problems, the collar absolutely obliterated my heel/achilles each time and didn't seem to be getting any better, so I just put them in a closet and forgot about them. It's not slip-on weather here anymore, so maybe I'll give them another try in the spring. Best of luck to anyone more patient than me.[close]
Did you keep the stock insoles? I find that theyre absolute shit and make your heels sit too high up to get a good heel lock, and as a consequence of that my heel would lift and get scratched as I walk. I switched them out with some FP insoles and its a night and day difference. Also the stock insoles are much too cushy and unstable, I felt like my ankle could roll either way as I was skating.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI wore mine for 2 or 3 walks around my neighbourhood. Among other fit problems, the collar absolutely obliterated my heel/achilles each time and didn't seem to be getting any better, so I just put them in a closet and forgot about them. It's not slip-on weather here anymore, so maybe I'll give them another try in the spring. Best of luck to anyone more patient than me.[close]
Did you keep the stock insoles? I find that theyre absolute shit and make your heels sit too high up to get a good heel lock, and as a consequence of that my heel would lift and get scratched as I walk. I switched them out with some FP insoles and its a night and day difference. Also the stock insoles are much too cushy and unstable, I felt like my ankle could roll either way as I was skating.[close]
Both with and without, and same thing. I normally wear custom orthotics in my shoes, which are lower than the Popcush ones, but still no go. I also found them too narrow in the forefoot. I'll probably still squeeze into them and try to torture myself into stretching them out at some point, though.
Yo MeanieExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI wore mine for 2 or 3 walks around my neighbourhood. Among other fit problems, the collar absolutely obliterated my heel/achilles each time and didn't seem to be getting any better, so I just put them in a closet and forgot about them. It's not slip-on weather here anymore, so maybe I'll give them another try in the spring. Best of luck to anyone more patient than me.[close]
Did you keep the stock insoles? I find that theyre absolute shit and make your heels sit too high up to get a good heel lock, and as a consequence of that my heel would lift and get scratched as I walk. I switched them out with some FP insoles and its a night and day difference. Also the stock insoles are much too cushy and unstable, I felt like my ankle could roll either way as I was skating.[close]
Both with and without, and same thing. I normally wear custom orthotics in my shoes, which are lower than the Popcush ones, but still no go. I also found them too narrow in the forefoot. I'll probably still squeeze into them and try to torture myself into stretching them out at some point, though.[close]
Have found this with pretty much every vans pro shoe since way back. Had to switch to just regular classic vans which for whatever reason work so much better for me (I think I might actually be too heavy for the cushion to work, even in good shape I'll weigh about 100kgs(I think that's about 220 in American)). I've been using the same TNT 2 insoles for about 13 years but they don't fit into the new ones so good. Has anyone bought a pair of classics recently? And can compare to a pair from pre 2014? I must of bought 50+ pairs between 2010-2014 but I'm down to my last two.
Vans x Rassvet Skate Bold
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0487/8188/5596/products/RASSVET_VANS_SkateBold_Blk_Pair_1200x1200.jpg?v=1631894298)
(https://www.bonkers-shop.com/wp-content/uploads/vans-rassvet-paccbet-bold-skate-shoe-marshmallow-black-01.jpg)
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0491/5308/1497/products/[email protected]?v=1632275138)
(https://cdn.snkrdunk.com/uploads/media/20210922032233-1.jpeg)
Digging the tocap and wave into the eyelets.
Cheers mate. I guess it's not my weight but just my weird feet/Achilles. The shoe depth is the main issue tho some vans shoes I've got are so shallow I might as well try and skate in slides.Yo MeanieExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI wore mine for 2 or 3 walks around my neighbourhood. Among other fit problems, the collar absolutely obliterated my heel/achilles each time and didn't seem to be getting any better, so I just put them in a closet and forgot about them. It's not slip-on weather here anymore, so maybe I'll give them another try in the spring. Best of luck to anyone more patient than me.[close]
Did you keep the stock insoles? I find that theyre absolute shit and make your heels sit too high up to get a good heel lock, and as a consequence of that my heel would lift and get scratched as I walk. I switched them out with some FP insoles and its a night and day difference. Also the stock insoles are much too cushy and unstable, I felt like my ankle could roll either way as I was skating.[close]
Both with and without, and same thing. I normally wear custom orthotics in my shoes, which are lower than the Popcush ones, but still no go. I also found them too narrow in the forefoot. I'll probably still squeeze into them and try to torture myself into stretching them out at some point, though.[close]
Have found this with pretty much every vans pro shoe since way back. Had to switch to just regular classic vans which for whatever reason work so much better for me (I think I might actually be too heavy for the cushion to work, even in good shape I'll weigh about 100kgs(I think that's about 220 in American)). I've been using the same TNT 2 insoles for about 13 years but they don't fit into the new ones so good. Has anyone bought a pair of classics recently? And can compare to a pair from pre 2014? I must of bought 50+ pairs between 2010-2014 but I'm down to my last two.[close]
I’m about the same weight as you and I’ve loved all of the Vans insoles since they started making Pros (but none were as good as the OGs with the blue gel under the heel) and I don’t have any issues with them. Now the build on the upper is a whole nother story. I feel like the latest Skate Line is between the OG Pro line and the updated Pro line when the collars got lower and everything else got narrower/less deep. In short, I feel like the new Skate line (sorry, I’m only thinking of slip ons, I need to get some new Eras) is a step in the right direction of what was/should be as far as Vans goes…
That’s my point tho, I feel like the Skate line raised the collar so that I get more heel lock on the slip ons. I wouldn’t wear them for a few years (after they redid the Pros <2nd iteration>), because like you said, they were too shallow. Definitely improved for me in the Skate line. I still need to try some Skate Eras to see if it’s better on those too, as I’ve missed that shoe dearly…Cheers mate. I guess it's not my weight but just my weird feet/Achilles. The shoe depth is the main issue tho some vans shoes I've got are so shallow I might as well try and skate in slides.Expand QuoteYo MeanieExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI wore mine for 2 or 3 walks around my neighbourhood. Among other fit problems, the collar absolutely obliterated my heel/achilles each time and didn't seem to be getting any better, so I just put them in a closet and forgot about them. It's not slip-on weather here anymore, so maybe I'll give them another try in the spring. Best of luck to anyone more patient than me.[close]
Did you keep the stock insoles? I find that theyre absolute shit and make your heels sit too high up to get a good heel lock, and as a consequence of that my heel would lift and get scratched as I walk. I switched them out with some FP insoles and its a night and day difference. Also the stock insoles are much too cushy and unstable, I felt like my ankle could roll either way as I was skating.[close]
Both with and without, and same thing. I normally wear custom orthotics in my shoes, which are lower than the Popcush ones, but still no go. I also found them too narrow in the forefoot. I'll probably still squeeze into them and try to torture myself into stretching them out at some point, though.[close]
Have found this with pretty much every vans pro shoe since way back. Had to switch to just regular classic vans which for whatever reason work so much better for me (I think I might actually be too heavy for the cushion to work, even in good shape I'll weigh about 100kgs(I think that's about 220 in American)). I've been using the same TNT 2 insoles for about 13 years but they don't fit into the new ones so good. Has anyone bought a pair of classics recently? And can compare to a pair from pre 2014? I must of bought 50+ pairs between 2010-2014 but I'm down to my last two.[close]
I’m about the same weight as you and I’ve loved all of the Vans insoles since they started making Pros (but none were as good as the OGs with the blue gel under the heel) and I don’t have any issues with them. Now the build on the upper is a whole nother story. I feel like the latest Skate Line is between the OG Pro line and the updated Pro line when the collars got lower and everything else got narrower/less deep. In short, I feel like the new Skate line (sorry, I’m only thinking of slip ons, I need to get some new Eras) is a step in the right direction of what was/should be as far as Vans goes…[close]
Just got some sk8 lows. Probably my favorite pair of Vans I’ve ever owned. Fit slightly snug at first but 30 seconds in the microwave worked wonders. These are definitely TTS for me.
I just want chukka boots to come back. I like the Chukka low but it's not the same.https://www.instagram.com/p/CYM9U_vM7LO/?utm_medium=copy_link
I know Vans won't ever do this. To me that shoe was the best looking shoe ever made.
Just got some sk8 lows. Probably my favorite pair of Vans I’ve ever owned. Fit slightly snug at first but 30 seconds in the microwave worked wonders. These are definitely TTS for me.
(https://i.imgur.com/cCM8EvG.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/RwejJns.jpg)
skate slip on's and old skools hurt your heel first couple times
skate slip on's vamp crushes your feet first couple wears
after a few wears they're pretty sick
Maybe somethings in the works? The checkered tag basically means they’re skate models right?Expand QuoteI just want chukka boots to come back. I like the Chukka low but it's not the same.
I know Vans won't ever do this. To me that shoe was the best looking shoe ever made.[close]
Expand QuoteJust got some sk8 lows. Probably my favorite pair of Vans I’ve ever owned. Fit slightly snug at first but 30 seconds in the microwave worked wonders. These are definitely TTS for me.[close]
Been tempted to get these, but opted for the Grosso Mids instead.
Do the Skate Lo's have tongue centering straps?
Been tempted to get these, but opted for the Grosso Mids instead.
Do the Skate Lo's have tongue centering straps?
Expand QuoteMaybe somethings in the works? The checkered tag basically means they’re skate models right?Expand QuoteI just want chukka boots to come back. I like the Chukka low but it's not the same.
I know Vans won't ever do this. To me that shoe was the best looking shoe ever made.[close][close]
Yes.
Sure do!Expand QuoteExpand QuoteJust got some sk8 lows. Probably my favorite pair of Vans I’ve ever owned. Fit slightly snug at first but 30 seconds in the microwave worked wonders. These are definitely TTS for me.[close]
Been tempted to get these, but opted for the Grosso Mids instead.
Do the Skate Lo's have tongue centering straps?[close]
All the Skate versions do have the tongue straps, which is a plus for me, as I like them, but I know some others have cut them out, which you can do if you are not so keen.
Did your Grosso Mids still have the 3D version of the insoles?
The harder plastic heel cup thing built into the insole is another one - some people like it, some don't.
I just want chukka boots to come back. I like the Chukka low but it's not the same.sounds like there WAS a Reynolds chukka planned but it got scrapped (along with the Lampin)
I know Vans won't ever do this. To me that shoe was the best looking shoe ever made.
I just want chukka boots to come back. I like the Chukka low but it's not the same.
I know Vans won't ever do this. To me that shoe was the best looking shoe ever made.
that couldnt be a more unflattering photoExpand QuoteI just want chukka boots to come back. I like the Chukka low but it's not the same.
I know Vans won't ever do this. To me that shoe was the best looking shoe ever made.[close]
Agreed. My all time favorite shoe.
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You guys go tts in the Crockett highs or go a half size down?you should be good with tts. I've gone half size down on a few pairs and they become perfect once broken in though.
You guys go tts in the Crockett highs or go a half size down?
I'll ask again... how's the fit of the Grosso mid? similar to half cabs? eh?
You guys go tts in the Crockett highs or go a half size down?
Expand QuoteYou guys go tts in the Crockett highs or go a half size down?[close]
Go up .5 if you wanna add your own insoles on top of ultra cush.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI'll ask again... how's the fit of the Grosso mid? similar to half cabs? eh?[close]
I imagine they're somewhat similar to the Skate Sk8-Lows I'm skating at the moment. They feel kinda stiff at first but they're perfect once you've worn them at work for like 2 days. Good board feel and the sole lasts forever. I doubt they're as bulky as the new Half Cabs.[close]
i run same size in the new half cabs and the new grosso mid. they'll hurt your feet for a day or two but then they feel nice. i highly recommend
right on. thanks. see, I dig the new half cabs. can't really see myself getting anything more low-pro right now
Got my 2nd pair of Vans, ever. The Crockett Highs. Just like the Chima 2's, they are not very comfy. Bad cupping at the heel, causing heelslip unless worn very tight. The materials are just not plush, or not much of it at all. Nike blazers are way more comfy. But oh well...did you get the wrong size? I found the crocketts to be one of Vans most comfortable shoe that i've tried in recent years (rowans, slip ons, old skool, ave pro - i liked the ave pro but had heel slip issues). Nike blazer mids definitely have more padding around the collar, but are more narrow than most vans so may not be comfy for people that are used to Vans silhouettes
I'll ask again... how's the fit of the Grosso mid? similar to half cabs? eh?
did you get the wrong size? I found the crocketts to be one of Vans most comfortable shoe that i've tried in recent years (rowans, slip ons, old skool, ave pro - i liked the ave pro but had heel slip issues). Nike blazer mids definitely have more padding around the collar, but are more narrow than most vans so may not be comfy for people that are used to Vans silhouettesExpand QuoteGot my 2nd pair of Vans, ever. The Crockett Highs. Just like the Chima 2's, they are not very comfy. Bad cupping at the heel, causing heelslip unless worn very tight. The materials are just not plush, or not much of it at all. Nike blazers are way more comfy. But oh well...[close]
Expand Quotedid you get the wrong size? I found the crocketts to be one of Vans most comfortable shoe that i've tried in recent years (rowans, slip ons, old skool, ave pro - i liked the ave pro but had heel slip issues). Nike blazer mids definitely have more padding around the collar, but are more narrow than most vans so may not be comfy for people that are used to Vans silhouettesExpand QuoteGot my 2nd pair of Vans, ever. The Crockett Highs. Just like the Chima 2's, they are not very comfy. Bad cupping at the heel, causing heelslip unless worn very tight. The materials are just not plush, or not much of it at all. Nike blazers are way more comfy. But oh well...[close][close]
can you compare the Crockett High to the new skate Half Cabs? IIRC they have the older, thicker Popcush, which I don't remember loving necessarily. I'm not sure the thin canvas does much for the ankle support, but I forever associate Crockett 2's more with the kind of lifted truck bros that wear MAGA hats and live in the central valley and still shop at Vans so they can remind you of how good they were at heelflips when they were 13.
Expand Quotedid you get the wrong size? I found the crocketts to be one of Vans most comfortable shoe that i've tried in recent years (rowans, slip ons, old skool, ave pro - i liked the ave pro but had heel slip issues). Nike blazer mids definitely have more padding around the collar, but are more narrow than most vans so may not be comfy for people that are used to Vans silhouettesExpand QuoteGot my 2nd pair of Vans, ever. The Crockett Highs. Just like the Chima 2's, they are not very comfy. Bad cupping at the heel, causing heelslip unless worn very tight. The materials are just not plush, or not much of it at all. Nike blazers are way more comfy. But oh well...[close][close]
can you compare the Crockett High to the new skate Half Cabs? IIRC they have the older, thicker Popcush, which I don't remember loving necessarily. I'm not sure the thin canvas does much for the ankle support, but I forever associate Crockett 2's more with the kind of lifted truck bros that wear MAGA hats and live in the central valley and still shop at Vans so they can remind you of how good they were at heelflips when they were 13.
Expand QuoteExpand Quotedid you get the wrong size? I found the crocketts to be one of Vans most comfortable shoe that i've tried in recent years (rowans, slip ons, old skool, ave pro - i liked the ave pro but had heel slip issues). Nike blazer mids definitely have more padding around the collar, but are more narrow than most vans so may not be comfy for people that are used to Vans silhouettesExpand QuoteGot my 2nd pair of Vans, ever. The Crockett Highs. Just like the Chima 2's, they are not very comfy. Bad cupping at the heel, causing heelslip unless worn very tight. The materials are just not plush, or not much of it at all. Nike blazers are way more comfy. But oh well...[close][close]
can you compare the Crockett High to the new skate Half Cabs? IIRC they have the older, thicker Popcush, which I don't remember loving necessarily. I'm not sure the thin canvas does much for the ankle support, but I forever associate Crockett 2's more with the kind of lifted truck bros that wear MAGA hats and live in the central valley and still shop at Vans so they can remind you of how good they were at heelflips when they were 13.[close]
I haven't skated the new skate half cabs yet (I do have a pair of Reynolds '92 on the way tho!). I'm not really aware of the changes with the popcush formula but it feels identical to the ones used in the Rowans. I just mainly skate them for the wafflecup and I just like the feeling of wearing a hightop for that secureness factor (heel slippage and the feeling of my foot sliding around inside a shoe are major pet peeves for skating). It's kinda like a chuck taylor high, not plush at all like the half cabs.
With the crockett 2's, does anyone else get their heels rubbed raw by the heel counter stitching? I remember they had them in the 1's but it never bothered me, but somehow with the 2's in the same size my heel keeps wanting to lift up when i walk
^That is a very strange association but then again the Central Valley is a strange place
skate slip on's and old skools hurt your heel first couple timesI just got some of the krooked by natas for barbee skate slip ons and was worried I should have sized up but searching through the thread this post gives me hope.
skate slip on's vamp crushes your feet first couple wears
after a few wears they're pretty sick
Have kind of not been into vans for years but sincs the skatw half cab is apparently stiffer i'm curious to try. How the fit generally?Just got mine
Have kind of not been into vans for years but sincs the skatw half cab is apparently stiffer i'm curious to try. How the fit generally?
Have kind of not been into vans for years but since the skate half cab is apparently stiffer i'm curious to try. How's the fit generally?
I know it's been acknowledged in this thread a couple times, but I had my first session in my Skate Old Skools and they were absolutely killing my feet. I've worn them as chillers for awhile but they just suffocate my feet which is kind of a bummer cuz the former Old Skool Pro was my favorite shoe for awhile.
To those who had them and had the same issue, how long did it take for them to feel better, if at all?
Expand QuoteI know it's been acknowledged in this thread a couple times, but I had my first session in my Skate Old Skools and they were absolutely killing my feet. I've worn them as chillers for awhile but they just suffocate my feet which is kind of a bummer cuz the former Old Skool Pro was my favorite shoe for awhile.
To those who had them and had the same issue, how long did it take for them to feel better, if at all?[close]
Are they too stiff? Also- they’re full suede or partial? I find mine take like a couple hours total to fully break in and get a bit more flexible in the upper and feel like clouds, but the sole and insole stay consistent.I actually really like this because then they never flop out unlike the old Pro ones did.
I have the leather ones and those stay pretty stiff compared to the Suede 92’s I have.
it’s been a little while since i had the Skate Old Skools but if i remember correctly, my big issue with them was the heel. It just took me some time to kinda squish down the heels a bit to make em a bit less stiff. Gave em a few twists too and that really helped loosen em up. Besides those little things i though they were great shoes. i personally enjoyed them more than the old skool pros for the sole factor that they kept their damn shape ;DExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI know it's been acknowledged in this thread a couple times, but I had my first session in my Skate Old Skools and they were absolutely killing my feet. I've worn them as chillers for awhile but they just suffocate my feet which is kind of a bummer cuz the former Old Skool Pro was my favorite shoe for awhile.
To those who had them and had the same issue, how long did it take for them to feel better, if at all?[close]
Are they too stiff? Also- they’re full suede or partial? I find mine take like a couple hours total to fully break in and get a bit more flexible in the upper and feel like clouds, but the sole and insole stay consistent.I actually really like this because then they never flop out unlike the old Pro ones did.
I have the leather ones and those stay pretty stiff compared to the Suede 92’s I have.[close]
They're partial suede. The black and white ones, specifically. I think the stiffness has been a huge improvement for the other revamped models so I guess I'll just keep trying these. The old ones did sag out kinda quick but they were also my favorite silhouette.
I'm a fucking moron and read Half Cab, not Old Skool. Honestly I love the Half Cabs, but my Old Skools feel weird. They're canvas suede all black with white stitching and laces. The ankle area feels uncomfortable but got softer- the rear does feel stiffer and the shoe is too grippy in the flick. I can skate Half Cabs for a session and they feel awesome, but I've skated these like 4 or 5 times so far and done a lot of dog walks and I'm not super stoked.
Expand QuoteI'm a fucking moron and read Half Cab, not Old Skool. Honestly I love the Half Cabs, but my Old Skools feel weird. They're canvas suede all black with white stitching and laces. The ankle area feels uncomfortable but got softer- the rear does feel stiffer and the shoe is too grippy in the flick. I can skate Half Cabs for a session and they feel awesome, but I've skated these like 4 or 5 times so far and done a lot of dog walks and I'm not super stoked.[close]
oh well in that case we're on the same page lol. For me the Half-Cabs feel good straight out of the box even if it takes a session or two to properly break in. Still gonna try the Old Skools, but I think I'm converted to a Half-Cab guy now.
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just saw these vans that were made for the us airforce. if they released a crockett high or even a half cab in this colour way it’d be an automatic cop for me
Anyone fuck with the skate fairlanes?
Went to the skate shop today and homie was excited to show me some new half cabs with a barb wire graphic embroidered on the heel. i was hoping to get some half cabs this year at some point bc of the 30 year anniversary, but all i could think of was Pamela Anderson's bad tattoo.
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Went to the skate shop today and homie was excited to show me some new half cabs with a barb wire graphic embroidered on the heel. i was hoping to get some half cabs this year at some point bc of the 30 year anniversary, but all i could think of was Pamela Anderson's bad tattoo.
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Expand QuoteAnyone fuck with the skate fairlanes?[close]
I love them. Most comfortable Vans in years. Skate well but take a while to get good flick with the slippery leather.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteAnyone fuck with the skate fairlanes?[close]
I love them. Most comfortable Vans in years. Skate well but take a while to get good flick with the slippery leather.[close]
Whoa that shoe looks so rad. And it almost looks wide enough to where I could actually wear/skate them. I usually have to order Vans custom wide and theres no skate options im aware of…
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteAnyone fuck with the skate fairlanes?[close]
I love them. Most comfortable Vans in years. Skate well but take a while to get good flick with the slippery leather.[close]
Whoa that shoe looks so rad. And it almost looks wide enough to where I could actually wear/skate them. I usually have to order Vans custom wide and theres no skate options im aware of…[close]
Width wise, they fit similar to the Half Cab '92. The only two Vans models in years that didn't give me blisters on my pinky toes.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteAnyone fuck with the skate fairlanes?[close]
I love them. Most comfortable Vans in years. Skate well but take a while to get good flick with the slippery leather.[close]
Whoa that shoe looks so rad. And it almost looks wide enough to where I could actually wear/skate them. I usually have to order Vans custom wide and theres no skate options im aware of…[close]
Width wise, they fit similar to the Half Cab '92. The only two Vans models in years that didn't give me blisters on my pinky toes.[close]
Interesting.
Have you tried Wavees or AVEs before?
Those actually seem sorta wide from photos but I cant fully tell, trying to understand this Vans lineup I’d previously assumed wasnt for me.
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I couldn't fit my orthotics in the AVEs. I had a couple pairs of Wayvees but they are pretty thin on the bottom of the sole. Not a very supportive cupsole. Great, breathable Summer shoes though.
Any word on sizing for the Lizzie's?I’d get a half size up, ima 10 but I had to get 10.5
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteAnyone fuck with the skate fairlanes?[close]
I love them. Most comfortable Vans in years. Skate well but take a while to get good flick with the slippery leather.[close]
Whoa that shoe looks so rad. And it almost looks wide enough to where I could actually wear/skate them. I usually have to order Vans custom wide and theres no skate options im aware of…[close]
Width wise, they fit similar to the Half Cab '92. The only two Vans models in years that didn't give me blisters on my pinky toes.[close]
Interesting.
Have you tried Wavees or AVEs before?
Those actually seem sorta wide from photos but I cant fully tell, trying to understand this Vans lineup I’d previously assumed wasnt for me.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteAnyone fuck with the skate fairlanes?[close]
I love them. Most comfortable Vans in years. Skate well but take a while to get good flick with the slippery leather.[close]
Whoa that shoe looks so rad. And it almost looks wide enough to where I could actually wear/skate them. I usually have to order Vans custom wide and theres no skate options im aware of…[close]
Width wise, they fit similar to the Half Cab '92. The only two Vans models in years that didn't give me blisters on my pinky toes.[close]
Interesting.
Have you tried Wavees or AVEs before?
Those actually seem sorta wide from photos but I cant fully tell, trying to understand this Vans lineup I’d previously assumed wasnt for me.[close]
I have wide toes and it’s for this reason that I love the AVE. One of the best shoes I’ve found for someone whose feet are constantly bound in most skateboard shoes.
I’d get a half size up, ima 10 but I had to get 10.5Expand QuoteAny word on sizing for the Lizzie's?[close]
Rest of the Atlas x Vans. Half cab, slip on and era.
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Expand QuoteRest of the Atlas x Vans. Half cab, slip on and era.
https://www.instagram.com/p/ClFSayPPkWp/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=[close]
Era's look pretty good
Apologies if this has been discussed elsewhere but does anyone know how the '92 sizing compares to NB 440?
I used to love Vans for their iconic and timeless shoe-designs.
But nowadays it seems like, theyre trying to jump on the tech bandwagon. Ii bet a lot of you like the new shoes they have put out in the recent years, but in my opinion they just lost their iconic design.
The last realease I was really stoked on, were the Rowles SPVs:
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and the Rowley Solos:
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The new designs just seem to have lost their classic feel. One horrible mention is the Berle Pro:
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And the AVE shoe would be very sick, but why did they have to choose this weird material for the sole and the outers?
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I wish they could just stick to their calssic waffle cup soles and the timeless vans design. But with shoes like this:
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or this:
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they just disappoint me with every new release and I went back to converse.
Converse somehow keeps sticking to their roots and good designs...
Also whatever happened with the Skate Authentic Highs becoming a general release? I thought that was supposed to happen…Has anyone got the scoop on whether those green/red suede black sole authentic highs AA has been wearing lately on instagram are going to be released?
how do the half cabs fit compared to old skools? should i size down by half?
I was at a vans store the other day. Tried on skate half cabs and Crockett highs. The skate half cabs in my regular size were choking the life out of my feet. Half size up, they felt ok but not great. Crockett highs in my usual size felt anywhere from a half to full size too long. I either have the most fucked up feet or vans is going crazy with sizing these days.
I will say, the Crockett’s felt pretty nice. All of the uncertainty about the sizing has me a little hesitant though.
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I can’t unsee it :( so you all have to see it now too.
I’m sz10 in vans , and the new skate line def fits very snug pre-break in. So much so I may consider sizing up 10.5 next pair to give toes somebreathing room. Maybe my feet are getting bigger with age lol. Half cabs felt more crowded than sk8hi for me. Both new skate line, both sz10
I kinda fuck with. those
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I couldn't.
Didn't in like 2005 vans (maybe DC I can't remember) drop a bunch of waterproof skate shoes that looked normal.
That would be kinda sick. A rain skating shoe.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI kinda fuck with. those[close]
I couldn't.
Didn't in like 2005 vans (maybe DC I can't remember) drop a bunch of waterproof skate shoes that looked normal.
That would be kinda sick. A rain skating shoe.[close]
but they did those goretex halfcabs recently, too. those looked normal.
There's Gore Tex Sk8 his and old skools too (not palace) wouldn't be surprised if there's also slip ons, eras etcExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI kinda fuck with. those[close]
I couldn't.
Didn't in like 2005 vans (maybe DC I can't remember) drop a bunch of waterproof skate shoes that looked normal.
That would be kinda sick. A rain skating shoe.[close]
but they did those goretex halfcabs recently, too. those looked normal.[close]
There are three palace goretex half cabs coming out this week. One upsets me greatly bc it’s a colorway I’ve wanted on a regular ass half cab for almost a decade after Uprise did a minuscule run
There's Gore Tex Sk8 his and old skools too (not palace) wouldn't be surprised if there's also slip ons, eras etcExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI kinda fuck with. those[close]
I couldn't.
Didn't in like 2005 vans (maybe DC I can't remember) drop a bunch of waterproof skate shoes that looked normal.
That would be kinda sick. A rain skating shoe.[close]
but they did those goretex halfcabs recently, too. those looked normal.[close]
There are three palace goretex half cabs coming out this week. One upsets me greatly bc it’s a colorway I’ve wanted on a regular ass half cab for almost a decade after Uprise did a minuscule run[close]
Yet another winterized half cab version is coming
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Good people, a question on the Crockett lows if you would allow. In vans i normally skate eras and authentics, but new year and new things and vans have the crocketts on sale i thought i might mix it up. Wanted to ask if anyone could kindly comment on how the general sizing and toe box width was on the new crocketts, and also what the waffle cup is like for boardfeel compared to the standard vans vulc.
You just gotta go inside once the snow gets to ankle height.
Expand QuoteGood people, a question on the Crockett lows if you would allow. In vans i normally skate eras and authentics, but new year and new things and vans have the crocketts on sale i thought i might mix it up. Wanted to ask if anyone could kindly comment on how the general sizing and toe box width was on the new crocketts, and also what the waffle cup is like for boardfeel compared to the standard vans vulc.[close]
True to size for me, and had space for toes. Opposite of Nike SB for me. The sole still has a good amount of boardfeel and is sort of skateable out of the box. More durable than the vulcs, I’d say.
Yet another winterized half cab version is comingwhy come though
(https://i.imgur.com/O2QCHE1.jpg)
Possible hot take here:
I think the waffle cup toe/front area of the sole is not as durable as the skate line vulcs. Crocketts and Kwalks have noticeably less rubber than the vulcs to wear away. Plus they feel softer/more pliable then Sk8 Hi or Half Cab.
They also feel softer in the front of the shoe compared to the vulcs. Waffle cup is supposed to be support meets boardfeel but it's just more boardfeel on a "cup " sole... Pretty much a "glorified" vulc.
Wafflecup feels less durable and supportive compared to Skate vulcs. That's my hot take
They do skate well if you like how they fit/feel on a board, tho!
I nearly blew through a pair of Kwalks rubber on the toe in 1 week a couple years ago when filming/skating regularly.
That was a first and the current Skate line Half Cabs definitely don't do that. Crockett could do that but haven't skated them in awhile. Come to think of it, nearly all of my shoes in 16.5 years of skating have not done that.
Possible hot take here:
I think the waffle cup toe/front area of the sole is not as durable as the skate line vulcs. Crocketts and Kwalks have noticeably less rubber than the vulcs to wear away. Plus they feel softer/more pliable then Sk8 Hi or Half Cab.
They also feel softer in the front of the shoe compared to the vulcs. Waffle cup is supposed to be support meets boardfeel but it's just more boardfeel on a "cup " sole... Pretty much a "glorified" vulc.
Wafflecup feels less durable and supportive compared to Skate vulcs. That's my hot take
They do skate well if you like how they fit/feel on a board, tho!
I nearly blew through a pair of Kwalks rubber on the toe in 1 week a couple years ago when filming/skating regularly.
That was a first and the current Skate line Half Cabs definitely don't do that. Crockett could do that but haven't skated them in awhile. Come to think of it, nearly all of my shoes in 16.5 years of skating have not done that.
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I like the “hot take”. I haven't personally done any filming, but I did used to pulverise vulcs when i road bmx brakeless and used the soles to brake on the back tyre. (I digress) So does “softer” mean more boardfeel than the skate classics vulc in your opinion?
Expand QuotePossible hot take here:
I think the waffle cup toe/front area of the sole is not as durable as the skate line vulcs. Crocketts and Kwalks have noticeably less rubber than the vulcs to wear away. Plus they feel softer/more pliable then Sk8 Hi or Half Cab.
They also feel softer in the front of the shoe compared to the vulcs. Waffle cup is supposed to be support meets boardfeel but it's just more boardfeel on a "cup " sole... Pretty much a "glorified" vulc.
Wafflecup feels less durable and supportive compared to Skate vulcs. That's my hot take
They do skate well if you like how they fit/feel on a board, tho!
I nearly blew through a pair of Kwalks rubber on the toe in 1 week a couple years ago when filming/skating regularly.
That was a first and the current Skate line Half Cabs definitely don't do that. Crockett could do that but haven't skated them in awhile. Come to think of it, nearly all of my shoes in 16.5 years of skating have not done that.[close]
Vans vulcs would be perfect if not for that foxing tape peeling off of the waffle sole problem that is so common. This can happen even in ones I don’t skate in. If they fixed that, I’d have no complaints really.
I don't get people skating Vans unless you're really young.
Pros were ok-ish but they lasted very little, sure the skate ones fixed that but now they feel like crap.
I don't get people skating Vans unless you're really young.
Pros were ok-ish but they lasted very little, sure the skate ones fixed that but now they feel like crap.
If anything wouldn't older people be more into vans?Expand QuoteI don't get people skating Vans unless you're really young.
Pros were ok-ish but they lasted very little, sure the skate ones fixed that but now they feel like crap.[close]
They make some models of shoes which fit my feet and my skating very well so I continue to buy them when I need new skate shoes. I don't understand what age could possible have to do with it.
If anything wouldn't older people be more into vans?Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI don't get people skating Vans unless you're really young.
Pros were ok-ish but they lasted very little, sure the skate ones fixed that but now they feel like crap.[close]
They make some models of shoes which fit my feet and my skating very well so I continue to buy them when I need new skate shoes. I don't understand what age could possible have to do with it.[close]
If anything wouldn't older people be more into vans?Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI don't get people skating Vans unless you're really young.
Pros were ok-ish but they lasted very little, sure the skate ones fixed that but now they feel like crap.[close]
They make some models of shoes which fit my feet and my skating very well so I continue to buy them when I need new skate shoes. I don't understand what age could possible have to do with it.[close]
Expand QuoteIf anything wouldn't older people be more into vans?Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI don't get people skating Vans unless you're really young.
Pros were ok-ish but they lasted very little, sure the skate ones fixed that but now they feel like crap.[close]
They make some models of shoes which fit my feet and my skating very well so I continue to buy them when I need new skate shoes. I don't understand what age could possible have to do with it.[close][close]
I think most old people have been to enough malls to see that Vans is mostly a lifestyle brand and/or are pretty aware that they have their own flaws and faults like any other brand. I see a lot of older bowl trolls rocking brands you wouldn't expect lately when you'd assume they'd have sk8-hi's to go with their 80's shaped decks.
Expand QuotePossible hot take here:
I think the waffle cup toe/front area of the sole is not as durable as the skate line vulcs. Crocketts and Kwalks have noticeably less rubber than the vulcs to wear away. Plus they feel softer/more pliable then Sk8 Hi or Half Cab.
They also feel softer in the front of the shoe compared to the vulcs. Waffle cup is supposed to be support meets boardfeel but it's just more boardfeel on a "cup " sole... Pretty much a "glorified" vulc.
Wafflecup feels less durable and supportive compared to Skate vulcs. That's my hot take
They do skate well if you like how they fit/feel on a board, tho!
I nearly blew through a pair of Kwalks rubber on the toe in 1 week a couple years ago when filming/skating regularly.
That was a first and the current Skate line Half Cabs definitely don't do that. Crockett could do that but haven't skated them in awhile. Come to think of it, nearly all of my shoes in 16.5 years of skating have not done that.[close]
Vans vulcs would be perfect if not for that foxing tape peeling off of the waffle sole problem that is so common. This can happen even in ones I don’t skate in. If they fixed that, I’d have no complaints really.
vans needs to bring back the 112 pro. That shoe should have never been discontinued. The end.the 112 pro was a solid shoe. the canvas model was pretty darn tough. although, if it was still on the shelves today, i would prefer to skate in halfcabs for the classic look or the rowan pros if i'm skating vans vulcs #teamcrocketthigh
For me personally, if i venture away from Vans i soon come back. They arent the best shoes, but as an old git bowl troll with the odd slappy, they are a known quantity. I have tried Numeric, Adidas, Etnies, Emerica, i even tried some Last Resorts, all great shoes but cant help feeling i look like mutton dressed as lamb.
If anyone from Vans is listening (as that nice fellow @rothdigga does on the new balance thread) then please could you consider reducing the height of popcush insoles so feet feel lower in the shoe, abandon duracap as it makes the shoes feel a bit plasticy, and up your natural suede quality instead. Be nice to make some canvas eras with a rubber ollie patch on the outside, and finally realise that you have a classic shoe in the making and turn the hightop canvas authentics into a regular shoe run, not just an Andrew Allen one off.
Just a thought. Thanks
Just picked up some Grosso Mids because Jeff is a legend and they look great. Nice shoe but they have the Ultracush 3D insole in them? Its like i have gone back to 2018, and getting plantar fasciitis flashbacks from the TNTs! Did they have a few boxes of old 3Ds lying around and thought “these will do, the oldies won’t notice”. The listings on vans websites all say Popcush as well. Hey Vans!!! What is this shenanigans!?I've only ever seen the Grosso mids with the 3D whatever insole in them. I think that's meant to be their main point of difference between the Sk8 hi (apart from the height difference of course)
This may be very true, but online (both Vans and other sellers) it lists as popcush, with the whole Popcush is awesome graphic and splash. So the Grosso Highs are Popcush?I've only ever seen the Grosso mids with the 3D whatever insole in them. I think that's meant to be their main point of difference between the Sk8 hi (apart from the height difference of course)Expand QuoteJust picked up some Grosso Mids because Jeff is a legend and they look great. Nice shoe but they have the Ultracush 3D insole in them? Its like i have gone back to 2018, and getting plantar fasciitis flashbacks from the TNTs! Did they have a few boxes of old 3Ds lying around and thought “these will do, the oldies won’t notice”. The listings on vans websites all say Popcush as well. Hey Vans!!! What is this shenanigans!?[close]
Hmm unless it varies colorway to colorway I think the Grosso label always has the ultra 3D insole and the skate (little checker flag) Sk8 hi has the popcush.This may be very true, but online (both Vans and other sellers) it lists as popcush, with the whole Popcush is awesome graphic and splash. So the Grosso Highs are Popcush?Expand QuoteI've only ever seen the Grosso mids with the 3D whatever insole in them. I think that's meant to be their main point of difference between the Sk8 hi (apart from the height difference of course)Expand QuoteJust picked up some Grosso Mids because Jeff is a legend and they look great. Nice shoe but they have the Ultracush 3D insole in them? Its like i have gone back to 2018, and getting plantar fasciitis flashbacks from the TNTs! Did they have a few boxes of old 3Ds lying around and thought “these will do, the oldies won’t notice”. The listings on vans websites all say Popcush as well. Hey Vans!!! What is this shenanigans!?[close][close]
That Grosso insole is ubershit.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CmXfFkxrYOv/?igshid=Zjc2ZTc4Nzk=
I can’t unsee it :( so you all have to see it now too.
Just picked up some Grosso Mids because Jeff is a legend and they look great. Nice shoe but they have the Ultracush 3D insole in them? Its like i have gone back to 2018, and getting plantar fasciitis flashbacks from the TNTs! Did they have a few boxes of old 3Ds lying around and thought “these will do, the oldies won’t notice”. The listings on vans websites all say Popcush as well. Hey Vans!!! What is this shenanigans!?
Expand QuoteJust picked up some Grosso Mids because Jeff is a legend and they look great. Nice shoe but they have the Ultracush 3D insole in them? Its like i have gone back to 2018, and getting plantar fasciitis flashbacks from the TNTs! Did they have a few boxes of old 3Ds lying around and thought “these will do, the oldies won’t notice”. The listings on vans websites all say Popcush as well. Hey Vans!!! What is this shenanigans!?[close]
I think everything has been covered - from what I have seen all Grosso Mid shoes have the 3D insole - for which most of the people who have them either don't notice or have thought they worked well for them. Personally they are a little too stiff for me, but I change out the insoles for others anyway.
As to what is on websites, I have long thought what I read on some of the listings is from someone copy and pasting general information or some marketing crap that is either misguided or completely incorrect, in some cases.
Vans websites are no different, but I guess the intimate knowledge of which shoe has which insole options can really only be learned by being around the shoes, trying them on, or at the very least pulling up the insole to see which one is being used in which shoes, whenever a new style comes into a shop.
Eg the Chukka Low (both versions - no side stripe and side stripe) have the old Rowley preferred insoles, which are more the flat foam versions, thinner than any popcush or ultracush, but work well, especially with another flat foam insole under them for me.
A few other shoes also had the 3D insole, including the Chima shoe, which has been discontinued, or the TNT Advanced Prototype shoe, as mentioned.
The Skate versions (checkered tag) all have quite a few upgraded features including a thicker gum sole with a thinner insole, when compared to previous versions.
I guess the unfortunate thing here is if someone prefers a certain insole, but gets something different depending on which shoe they buy, there is no swap options, but I do find my insoles last multiple pairs of shoes, so I can recycle insoles from older shoes, especially for new shoes, but then when shoes are a lot thinner and well worn, using the new insoles helps to give shoes another lease on life, so to speak.
If you alternate between Sk8 Mids and something else, you could give this a go, or just not use the 3D insoles at all.
The latest Vans have increased in price.Makes me not wanna get vans anymore
The new skate chukka’s are $95 🙁
I think someone answered a while back. But, the 3D insole was Jeff’s favorite insoles. That’s why they kept them for his pro model.
The recent skate sk8 his i got have already started to fall apart after skating them like 8 times....mind you i dont do any flip tricks really. The side panel stitching came out, making the side of the shoe sit all weird. The sole is already coming apart from the vulc or whatever. Im starting to be over them as well. Especially with the price increase. Everytime i buy a pair of blazers, they end up lasting longer than i need them to with no issues.
From what I've heard Vans as a whole is having issues. I honestly don't understand how they expect to put their shoes at that price point and sell, when the market is littered with better vulcs at the same price. Why buy an SK8-Hi when you can buy a blazer for less? Or even a tyshawn for half the price on sale?I put a ollie hole in the side of nike sb blazers after a few sessions. This has not happened with the skate sk8 his I've had well over a year.
Expand QuoteThe recent skate sk8 his i got have already started to fall apart after skating them like 8 times....mind you i dont do any flip tricks really. The side panel stitching came out, making the side of the shoe sit all weird. The sole is already coming apart from the vulc or whatever. Im starting to be over them as well. Especially with the price increase. Everytime i buy a pair of blazers, they end up lasting longer than i need them to with no issues.[close]
Are they within warranty, or have they been sitting for a while before wearing / skating?
I ask because they are pretty good with fixing that sort of thing and I have had a few pairs warrantied without problems when there has been an issue with the shoes - same as the first post on this page, BALARGUE put one in and all good.
I know for some situations or some people it is not worth the bother, even I first thought I would just leave the ones I had, but sure enough, I put in the request and was surprised how quickly they gave me a full refund on them.
Just a thought anyway.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteThe recent skate sk8 his i got have already started to fall apart after skating them like 8 times....mind you i dont do any flip tricks really. The side panel stitching came out, making the side of the shoe sit all weird. The sole is already coming apart from the vulc or whatever. Im starting to be over them as well. Especially with the price increase. Everytime i buy a pair of blazers, they end up lasting longer than i need them to with no issues.[close]
Are they within warranty, or have they been sitting for a while before wearing / skating?
I ask because they are pretty good with fixing that sort of thing and I have had a few pairs warrantied without problems when there has been an issue with the shoes - same as the first post on this page, BALARGUE put one in and all good.
I know for some situations or some people it is not worth the bother, even I first thought I would just leave the ones I had, but sure enough, I put in the request and was surprised how quickly they gave me a full refund on them.
Just a thought anyway.[close]
They’d have to fix the vast majority of the pairs they sell at this point. The waffle sole separating from the foxing tape is a highly pervasive issue even in pairs that never get skated.
anyone grab the alltimers vans? thoughts/impressions?
Has anyone heard any rumors of the Low Cab coming back? Half Cab is obviously selling stronger than ever. I only like low top shoes. A Low Cab would be rad. Seems like a good time to put something out like that
Expand QuoteHas anyone heard any rumors of the Low Cab coming back? Half Cab is obviously selling stronger than ever. I only like low top shoes. A Low Cab would be rad. Seems like a good time to put something out like that[close]
The Scott Kane ones
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteHas anyone heard any rumors of the Low Cab coming back? Half Cab is obviously selling stronger than ever. I only like low top shoes. A Low Cab would be rad. Seems like a good time to put something out like that[close]
The Scott Kane ones[close]
That was a long time ago though. I’m wondering about one coming out in the future, or maybe rumors of it coming back?
I’m guessing not because I don’t see anyone talking about it….
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteHas anyone heard any rumors of the Low Cab coming back? Half Cab is obviously selling stronger than ever. I only like low top shoes. A Low Cab would be rad. Seems like a good time to put something out like that[close]
The Scott Kane ones[close]
That was a long time ago though. I’m wondering about one coming out in the future, or maybe rumors of it coming back?
I’m guessing not because I don’t see anyone talking about it….[close]
Isn't the rowan basically a low cab?
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteHas anyone heard any rumors of the Low Cab coming back? Half Cab is obviously selling stronger than ever. I only like low top shoes. A Low Cab would be rad. Seems like a good time to put something out like that[close]
The Scott Kane ones[close]
That was a long time ago though. I’m wondering about one coming out in the future, or maybe rumors of it coming back?
I’m guessing not because I don’t see anyone talking about it….[close]
Isn't the rowan basically a low cab?
Yet another winterized half cab version is coming
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Has anyone measured the thickness of a Popcush insole? Are they all the same from model to model?
Expand QuoteHas anyone measured the thickness of a Popcush insole? Are they all the same from model to model?[close]
The two things I have noticed - because they are curved they fit some people's feet way better from go which can be a good thing or a bad thing, as well as they compress a lot, so looking at a pair from new is very different to a well used pair, or at least the ones I have seen.
That is why I would say put your old ones in the new shoes, which will feel more comfortable right from go and then when the shoes are worn in or getting thin, put the new ones in which will give the shoes a bit more support until you are done with them.
As to which and what, there are at least three options out now:
Common purple pop cush insoles in most pro versions
3D in the Grosso versions - hard plastic rim round the heel area
Thin flat versions of the older material - most common in Chukka low and Rowley shoes that I have seen, maybe others.
If I can find pics, I will add later, but I got a few things to do right now.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteHas anyone measured the thickness of a Popcush insole? Are they all the same from model to model?[close]
The two things I have noticed - because they are curved they fit some people's feet way better from go which can be a good thing or a bad thing, as well as they compress a lot, so looking at a pair from new is very different to a well used pair, or at least the ones I have seen.
That is why I would say put your old ones in the new shoes, which will feel more comfortable right from go and then when the shoes are worn in or getting thin, put the new ones in which will give the shoes a bit more support until you are done with them.
As to which and what, there are at least three options out now:
Common purple pop cush insoles in most pro versions
3D in the Grosso versions - hard plastic rim round the heel area
Thin flat versions of the older material - most common in Chukka low and Rowley shoes that I have seen, maybe others.
If I can find pics, I will add later, but I got a few things to do right now.[close]
If you do manage to measure the thickness, please let me know. I have some Vans on the way to try and they were advertised as having the Popcush insole. I don't want to actually use the insole, I just want to know how much room it takes up in the shoe so I can figure out what type of aftermarket arch support will work best with the shoe (thickness is important here). I can't wear any skate shoe without arch support, so that's why I wanted to know. It may be that the shoes don't work for me fit wise and I end up having to return them anyway.
The latest Vans have increased in price.
The new skate chukka’s are $95 🙁
What I end up doing with all my shoes is cutting out cardboard and either gluing it in or sitting it in depending on how thick I need to make it, but I create a significantly higher arch support area than is in any other shoe that is cheap to make and works well for me - just shape cardboard to fit, usually folded over so it needs less glue or work and often shaped to fit under whatever area is needed, be it just the inside edge, or the whole heel area too.
Expand QuoteThe latest Vans have increased in price.
The new skate chukka’s are $95 🙁[close]
Have checked the vans site again since a long time in hope to buy some overpriced skate chukkas - but just to find on the landing page the fucking Knu skool.
Pure disappointment.
Someone in Italy management position/ deciding portfolio for the euro market is really trying to piss me off.
I tried on the new Vans Zahba's today and can confirm the toe box is pretty narrow. I compared it to what im currently skating in, NB 1010, and it was pretty obvious the 1010's are better quality/better fit. Wanted to try something new but oh well lol
I tried on the new Vans Zahba's today and can confirm the toe box is pretty narrow. I compared it to what im currently skating in, NB 1010, and it was pretty obvious the 1010's are better quality/better fit. Wanted to try something new but oh well lol
Expand QuoteI tried on the new Vans Zahba's today and can confirm the toe box is pretty narrow. I compared it to what im currently skating in, NB 1010, and it was pretty obvious the 1010's are better quality/better fit. Wanted to try something new but oh well lol[close]
Is it as narrow as the Ultrarange skate shoes from years back? If so, fuhhhh, because I just ordered a pair.
As far as Vans, so far, the Crockett Highs, Kyle 1s, and Rowans feel/skate the best for me.
Just got a pair of the Zahba’s. And for me, it fits like the AVE — a bit more of a narrow shoe (not Lizzie or Ultrarange Skate narrow) with a more pointy toebox.
Leaving it a bit loose still felt comfortable when walking around and doing some errands like going to the grocery store.
Hopefully I’ll have some time this week to skate them and report more on the cupsole feel and such.
Expand QuoteI tried on the new Vans Zahba's today and can confirm the toe box is pretty narrow. I compared it to what im currently skating in, NB 1010, and it was pretty obvious the 1010's are better quality/better fit. Wanted to try something new but oh well lol[close]
Is it as narrow as the Ultrarange skate shoes from years back? If so, fuhhhh, because I just ordered a pair.
As far as Vans, so far, the Crockett Highs, Kyle 1s, and Rowans feel/skate the best for me.
It's not the skate-specific models, but Vans has yet another new cushioning system called "VR3" which is supposed to be more environmentally friendly, recycled and bio-based materials etc. Anyway, I bring it up here because they're putting it in a bunch of the classics and it's actually a fully removable insole just like the pop cush. I just got some of the VR3 Authentics and they're built very similar to the skate authentics now, even have a slightly higher foxing tape more reminiscent of the "wrapped" skate models.
i do believe its in the lizard armadillo as well
Expand QuoteJust got a pair of the Zahba’s. And for me, it fits like the AVE — a bit more of a narrow shoe (not Lizzie or Ultrarange Skate narrow) with a more pointy toebox.
Leaving it a bit loose still felt comfortable when walking around and doing some errands like going to the grocery store.
Hopefully I’ll have some time this week to skate them and report more on the cupsole feel and such.[close]
Any sessions skating these yet??
FYI Vans is running 30% off online if you sign up for an account on the website. Earlier this week the stores were offering "buy one get one 1/2 off"...not sure how long that deal will go for.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteJust got a pair of the Zahba’s. And for me, it fits like the AVE — a bit more of a narrow shoe (not Lizzie or Ultrarange Skate narrow) with a more pointy toebox.
Leaving it a bit loose still felt comfortable when walking around and doing some errands like going to the grocery store.
Hopefully I’ll have some time this week to skate them and report more on the cupsole feel and such.[close]
Any sessions skating these yet??[close]
Rain and parenting has limited my skate time, but I got a 15 flat ground session on the driveway.
I like the board feel Vans cupsoles have. And this is no different.
Not a fan of the insole, especially after coming from Popcush, but I usually end up using an after market insole anyway.
Popped a few ollies and pushed around. The narrow toe didn’t fell off in comparison to wider shoes like half cabs and crockett highs. The suede didn’t feel stiff and had good flex when skating basically new out of the box.
I’ll post more as I skate then more.
anybody have any info on how these new lowland cupsole things skate? they look immaculate and im very tempted to grab a pair regardless of whether or not they skate semi decent
(https://i.ibb.co/g3FKZ5h/Vans-Lowland-Comfy-Cush-Staple-White-Skate-Shoes-339928-front-US.jpg) (https://ibb.co/g3FKZ5h)post pics (https://imgbb.com/)
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteHas anyone heard any rumors of the Low Cab coming back? Half Cab is obviously selling stronger than ever. I only like low top shoes. A Low Cab would be rad. Seems like a good time to put something out like that[close]
The Scott Kane ones[close]
That was a long time ago though. I’m wondering about one coming out in the future, or maybe rumors of it coming back?
I’m guessing not because I don’t see anyone talking about it….[close]
Isn't the rowan basically a low cab?[close]
Funny you say that.
Yes they do look very similar, but the Rowan is still a bit taller, almost like a Half Cab but maybe in between.
The vintage pair of Lo Cab shoes I have are falling apart, sole coming away from the upper, which often happens in old shoes, but to put them side by side with the pair of Rowans I have, they do have a lot in common.
My 6 year old son managed to pick these out for me for my bday (obviously with my wive's help buying, but she never would have found these herself): https://shop.ccs.com/products/vans-ave-shoes-teal (https://shop.ccs.com/products/vans-ave-shoes-teal) Props little guy-- I've been skating Adidas Superstars and New Balance 440s the most recently but grew up skating van's cupsole so curious how these go and will report in when I skate themKeen to hear, they look comfy and flexi for a cupsole. Have always been tempted to try them.
Expand Quoteanybody have any info on how these new lowland cupsole things skate? they look immaculate and im very tempted to grab a pair regardless of whether or not they skate semi decent
(https://i.ibb.co/g3FKZ5h/Vans-Lowland-Comfy-Cush-Staple-White-Skate-Shoes-339928-front-US.jpg) (https://ibb.co/g3FKZ5h)post pics (https://imgbb.com/)[close]
They all have “CC” in the name which is Vans’ “Comfy Cush”
Comfy Cush is a full foam mid and outsole which is very light and squishy and would be eaten alive by grip tape extremely quickly.
Unless they make one out of more traditional materials, I think these are a no-go for skating.
Keen to hear, they look comfy and flexi for a cupsole. Have always been tempted to try them.Expand QuoteMy 6 year old son managed to pick these out for me for my bday (obviously with my wive's help buying, but she never would have found these herself): https://shop.ccs.com/products/vans-ave-shoes-teal (https://shop.ccs.com/products/vans-ave-shoes-teal) Props little guy-- I've been skating Adidas Superstars and New Balance 440s the most recently but grew up skating van's cupsole so curious how these go and will report in when I skate them[close]
Village Psychic just did an interview with Claude Leco who designed the Zahba. Gives some cool insight to what goes into designing a shoe. Pretty good read, check it out:
http://www.villagepsychic.net/blog/claude-leco-zahba (http://www.villagepsychic.net/blog/claude-leco-zahba)
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Big fan of the Skate Sk8 Lows, had 3 pairs and thought I’d get a pair of Grosso Skate SK8 Mids (the black and white ones with that emo leather) as I had SK8 Mid Pros before and loved them too. Walked in said Grosso Skate SK8 Mids for 3 days and they still feel pretty stiff and not as comfy as they should be. Have any of you had these? How did they break in? Thanks.
Expand QuoteBig fan of the Skate Sk8 Lows, had 3 pairs and thought I’d get a pair of Grosso Skate SK8 Mids (the black and white ones with that emo leather) as I had SK8 Mid Pros before and loved them too. Walked in said Grosso Skate SK8 Mids for 3 days and they still feel pretty stiff and not as comfy as they should be. Have any of you had these? How did they break in? Thanks.[close]
Swap the insole. Those come with Ultracush, which is stiffer in the rear.
(https://i.ibb.co/vQfNCNg/IMG-2281.jpg) (https://ibb.co/vQfNCNg)
These look interesting.
Anybody know what they are??
(https://i.ibb.co/vQfNCNg/IMG-2281.jpg) (https://ibb.co/vQfNCNg)
These look interesting.
Anybody know what they are??
Expand Quote(https://i.ibb.co/vQfNCNg/IMG-2281.jpg) (https://ibb.co/vQfNCNg)
These look interesting.
Anybody know what they are??[close]
These are midtop versions of the Zahbas
I have to try some Aves. All the vans I’ve skated are Vulc and hurt my feet. I’m STILL breaking in a two year old pair of Authentics. No padding anywhere, just thick canvas and a rubber toe cap that’s about as comfortable as a steel toe. It’s like wearing boxes on my feet. Boxes that hate me.
Expand QuoteI have to try some Aves. All the vans I’ve skated are Vulc and hurt my feet. I’m STILL breaking in a two year old pair of Authentics. No padding anywhere, just thick canvas and a rubber toe cap that’s about as comfortable as a steel toe. It’s like wearing boxes on my feet. Boxes that hate me.[close]
I think I'm in the minority, but I did not enjoy skating the Aves. I don't have particularly wide feet but for some reason the toe box felt restricting and super stiff. I got the original white ones and I like the look of them so I kept them a chillers, but I still don't find them terribly comfortable.
As Manysnakes above said, perhaps it is a foot strength thing as well. I have weak arches and sketchy ankles so maybe my feet just couldn't hang. I didn't feel secure in them while popping and every trick felt like a hail mary. My arches would get sore during the session as well.
I feel more comfortable in a thinner vulc shoe.
Thanks yallzExpand Quote(https://i.ibb.co/vQfNCNg/IMG-2281.jpg) (https://ibb.co/vQfNCNg)
These look interesting.
Anybody know what they are??[close]
These are midtop versions of the Zahbas
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI have to try some Aves. All the vans I’ve skated are Vulc and hurt my feet. I’m STILL breaking in a two year old pair of Authentics. No padding anywhere, just thick canvas and a rubber toe cap that’s about as comfortable as a steel toe. It’s like wearing boxes on my feet. Boxes that hate me.[close]
I think I'm in the minority, but I did not enjoy skating the Aves. I don't have particularly wide feet but for some reason the toe box felt restricting and super stiff. I got the original white ones and I like the look of them so I kept them a chillers, but I still don't find them terribly comfortable.
As Manysnakes above said, perhaps it is a foot strength thing as well. I have weak arches and sketchy ankles so maybe my feet just couldn't hang. I didn't feel secure in them while popping and every trick felt like a hail mary. My arches would get sore during the session as well.
I feel more comfortable in a thinner vulc shoe.[close]
I have wide-ish feet and perfect arches. The authentics pinch my pinky toes really bad. Still not as bad as a lot of those Nikes made for people with banana feet
The Zahbas were clearly Reynolds influenced or maybe his shoe that they repurposed especially those mids
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These look interesting.
Anybody know what they are??[close]
edit:
I lied.
Not the new Rowan.
I don't know what it is.
I think this is the new Rowan.
(https://i.ibb.co/kM4Zz36/Screen-Shot-2023-04-14-at-2-49-24-pm.png)
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These look interesting.
Anybody know what they are??[close]
edit:
I lied.
Not the new Rowan.
I don't know what it is.
I think this is the new Rowan.
(https://i.ibb.co/kM4Zz36/Screen-Shot-2023-04-14-at-2-49-24-pm.png)[close]
I'd fuck with a rowan wanna-be-dunk (if waffle/cup)
How much more durable in the sole is the vans skate line than the regular line?
How much more durable in the sole is the vans skate line than the regular line?
Expand QuoteHow much more durable in the sole is the vans skate line than the regular line?[close]
the sole is good and easily outlasts the upper, i'd say it lasts twice as long compared to the regular models, so about 6-8 weeks in my experience
Zahba mid up on skate deluxe -
https://www.skatedeluxe.com/en/vans-zahba-mid-shoes-grey-multi_p163200
Didn’t the Zahba have a one piece toe cap?
I wanted like this more than I actually do.
I don’t get why every cupsole shoe is compared to a dunk? Like these look nothing like a dunk? These look like some old hassan or cardiels from the early 00’sExpand QuoteExpand Quote(https://i.ibb.co/vQfNCNg/IMG-2281.jpg) (https://ibb.co/vQfNCNg)
These look interesting.
Anybody know what they are??[close]
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I lied.
Not the new Rowan.
I don't know what it is.
I think this is the new Rowan.
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I'd fuck with a rowan wanna-be-dunk (if waffle/cup)
I don’t get why every cupsole shoe is compared to a dunk? Like these look nothing like a dunk? These look like some old hassan or cardiels from the early 00’sExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quote(https://i.ibb.co/vQfNCNg/IMG-2281.jpg) (https://ibb.co/vQfNCNg)
These look interesting.
Anybody know what they are??[close]
edit:
I lied.
Not the new Rowan.
I don't know what it is.
I think this is the new Rowan.
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I'd fuck with a rowan wanna-be-dunk (if waffle/cup)[close]
It looks a little better in this colourway. I might be able to talk myself into the Zahba mid whenever we get a mostly white or black colourway. It's not a cupsole Half Cab, but I feel like it's the closest thing they're going to give us.
Skatedeluxe also has some colourways I hadn't seen of the regular Zahba. The ones with the gum soles are both pretty inoffensive.
Man the more I look at it. It looks like a 92 half cab cup. But not having to pay cab royalties
Expand QuoteMan the more I look at it. It looks like a 92 half cab cup. But not having to pay cab royalties[close]
remove the stripe and that dumb checkerboard tag and they start looking real good
Yeah those lows aren’t bad at all. I like em in the right colorway. Had the crockett 2 lows and they kind of have a similar feel
looks more like it could be influenced by an af1I don’t get why every cupsole shoe is compared to a dunk? Like these look nothing like a dunk? These look like some old hassan or cardiels from the early 00’sExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quote(https://i.ibb.co/vQfNCNg/IMG-2281.jpg) (https://ibb.co/vQfNCNg)
These look interesting.
Anybody know what they are??[close]
edit:
I lied.
Not the new Rowan.
I don't know what it is.
I think this is the new Rowan.
(https://i.ibb.co/kM4Zz36/Screen-Shot-2023-04-14-at-2-49-24-pm.png)[close]
I'd fuck with a rowan wanna-be-dunk (if waffle/cup)[close]
It looks a little better in this colourway. I might be able to talk myself into the Zahba mid whenever we get a mostly white or black colourway. It's not a cupsole Half Cab, but I feel like it's the closest thing they're going to give us.
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Skatedeluxe also has some colourways I hadn't seen of the regular Zahba. The ones with the gum soles are both pretty inoffensive.
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Doesn’t make sense. Agree. The eyelet panel is totally different as well. Heel panel way different.. ok the midsole and outsole is the same but uppers are totally different…
Tyshawn and LL have shared elements. The uppers of these vans is completely different. Even detailing like the perforated toe on the low they didn’t carry over. Literally nothing shared.
Overall toecap silhouette I could see, but even that is a different size, overlapping panels versus one.. vans swoosh hits in a diff spot.
Those grey zahba mids look atrocious compared to the photo of the green ones that was floating around earlier
im feeling the knu schools, i might grab a pair. does anybody know if it has inner tongue straps?
Expand QuoteThose grey zahba mids look atrocious compared to the photo of the green ones that was floating around earlier[close]
The green ones are a Beatrice colorway coming soon
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteThose grey zahba mids look atrocious compared to the photo of the green ones that was floating around earlier[close]
The green ones are a Beatrice colorway coming soon[close]
She’s got more colorways than tricks in her repertoire
Damnnnn LMAOExpand QuoteExpand QuoteThose grey zahba mids look atrocious compared to the photo of the green ones that was floating around earlier[close]
The green ones are a Beatrice colorway coming soon[close]
She’s got more colorways than tricks in her repertoire
Vans, please just do it.This would definitely revamp their sales
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it looks like vans vault line is gone/discontinued. Looks like OTW coming back.
Vans vault IG is gone
Whatever material they put on the inside of the 96s kinda ruined the shoe for me. I was expecting canvas like a Half Cab in the heel collar area and instead there's something similar to the nubuck on the actual shoe. It's like they're designed to heel slip.This would definitely revamp their salesExpand QuoteVans, please just do it.
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New AVE shoe?
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New AVE shoe?[close]
Yes but not sure if it is the final production model or not. The team riders wear tested that shoe this past Winter. It is a big improvement over the current AVE shoe IMO.
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New AVE shoe?[close]
Yes but not sure if it is the final production model or not. The team riders wear tested that shoe this past Winter. It is a big improvement over the current AVE shoe IMO.[close]
Can you explain what's different cuz it looks like the same shoe?
"An amalgamation of the Half Cab and Mike Carrol’s MC 96."Ok now this is epic.
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Liking em
Yea this made the shoe unwearable for me. Feels like I would get blisters if I skated in themWhatever material they put on the inside of the 96s kinda ruined the shoe for me. I was expecting canvas like a Half Cab in the heel collar area and instead there's something similar to the nubuck on the actual shoe. It's like they're designed to heel slip.Expand QuoteThis would definitely revamp their salesExpand QuoteVans, please just do it.
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(https://cdn.fs.grailed.com/api/file/A6EG5qdDSTWJILJYaUOD)
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(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0371/5685/products/vintage_vans_style___mike_carroll_signature_black_nubuck_made_in_usa_96_used_8.5_c_1024x1024.JPG?v=1571438684)[close][close]
Expand Quoteit looks like vans vault line is gone/discontinued. Looks like OTW coming back.
Vans vault IG is gone[close]
From what I understand, and I don't understand much in this regard, the Vault line is the only one where the original (i.e. not "Skate") half cab was still being released in different colourways..? So if the Vault line is gone, hopefully that doesn't mean the original half cab is going out of production, or being phased out even further.
To be fair the reason vault shoes ended up on clearance was because they put out such god awful collabs and models. I remember that chukka with the coffin print saying the world was dead or something absurd like that. What good collabs they did have were always overpriced and not very comfortable.Expand QuoteExpand Quoteit looks like vans vault line is gone/discontinued. Looks like OTW coming back.
Vans vault IG is gone[close]
From what I understand, and I don't understand much in this regard, the Vault line is the only one where the original (i.e. not "Skate") half cab was still being released in different colourways..? So if the Vault line is gone, hopefully that doesn't mean the original half cab is going out of production, or being phased out even further.[close]
dumbest move of 2023. granted lots of vaults ended up on clearance racks at shoe shops but it was light years better than any of the OTW crap.
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Liking em[close]
Same.
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Liking em[close]
Same.[close]
Are these going to be impossible to get?
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New AVE shoe?[close]
Yes but not sure if it is the final production model or not. The team riders wear tested that shoe this past Winter. It is a big improvement over the current AVE shoe IMO.[close]
Can you explain what's different cuz it looks like the same shoe?[close]
You can definitely see the DNA from the current shoe but the new one is quite a bit different. A new Ultimate Waffle sole. The upper is a knit/sock like upper around the ankles. The heel is reinforced for stability. The toe panel is beefed up to prevent the day one ollie holes that tend to happen with the current version.
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Liking em[close]
Same.[close]
Are these going to be impossible to get?[close]
Palace collab? Yes. Yes it will be impossible to get.
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Liking em[close]
Same.[close]
Are these going to be impossible to get?[close]
Palace collab? Yes. Yes it will be impossible to get.[close]
Didn’t know if that had died down
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New AVE shoe?[close]
Yes but not sure if it is the final production model or not. The team riders wear tested that shoe this past Winter. It is a big improvement over the current AVE shoe IMO.
big fan of your posts and set ups. but was raped really the right word here? Overly aggressive to wish death on others families.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quote(https://hypebeast.com/image/2023/06/palace-vans-low-release-date-4.jpg)
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Liking em[close]
Same.[close]
Are these going to be impossible to get?[close]
Palace collab? Yes. Yes it will be impossible to get.[close]
Didn’t know if that had died down[close]
Nah. Resellers will always buy everything up, even if it make $7 in profit.
Which is why I always hope resellers’ families are raped and set on fire.
If you factor in the time they spend having to buy and ship the shoes in terms of hourly wages they're likely losing money.Depends on how many big ticket shoe flips they do. If they were smart, they'd ship all the purchased shoes from their web store thing in one session over a couple hours. Instead of doing one or two each day, like how you're loosely implying they do it.
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Liking em[close]
Same.[close]
Are these going to be impossible to get?[close]
Palace collab? Yes. Yes it will be impossible to get.[close]
Didn’t know if that had died down
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New AVE shoe?[close]
Yes but not sure if it is the final production model or not. The team riders wear tested that shoe this past Winter. It is a big improvement over the current AVE shoe IMO.[close]
Oh damn. I love the AVE pro so this gets me stoked.
Very different. the pair he is wearing has heel pull tabs. AVE pro do not.
yes! And imo more blatantly the numeric 288s type collar.Expand QuoteVery different. the pair he is wearing has heel pull tabs. AVE pro do not.[close]
That pull tab helps a lot when putting the shoe on as the collar is similar to a Prime Knit Adidas shoe.
Any word of a new Chima model? In one of his IG stories last week it looked like he was wearing a Sk8-Low, the toe looked similar, but the stripe went further towards the back and there appeared to be a notch on the heel like the Chima 2, so basically it looked like a Sk8-Lo/Chima 2 mashed together.
I feel like the Chima 2 was a sleeper hit with the same set that liked the Janoski. Maybe most of the shoes sold didn't get skated much or at all but I saw them on a lot of feet when they more current. I could see Vans giving him another shoe just based off of sales and name recognition alone but I think it's kind of a new movement over there so maybe not.Expand QuoteAny word of a new Chima model? In one of his IG stories last week it looked like he was wearing a Sk8-Low, the toe looked similar, but the stripe went further towards the back and there appeared to be a notch on the heel like the Chima 2, so basically it looked like a Sk8-Lo/Chima 2 mashed together.[close]
Did you get a screenshot? Pretty sure Chima is done with pro models like Berle . They pulled his model without a new one and he doesn’t even get colorways.
Expand QuoteAny word of a new Chima model? In one of his IG stories last week it looked like he was wearing a Sk8-Low, the toe looked similar, but the stripe went further towards the back and there appeared to be a notch on the heel like the Chima 2, so basically it looked like a Sk8-Lo/Chima 2 mashed together.[close]
Did you get a screenshot? Pretty sure Chima is done with pro models like Berle . They pulled his model without a new one and he doesn’t even get colorways.
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New AVE shoe?[close]
Yes but not sure if it is the final production model or not. The team riders wear tested that shoe this past Winter. It is a big improvement over the current AVE shoe IMO.[close]
Can you explain what's different cuz it looks like the same shoe?[close]
You can definitely see the DNA from the current shoe but the new one is quite a bit different. A new Ultimate Waffle sole. The upper is a knit/sock like upper around the ankles. The heel is reinforced for stability. The toe panel is beefed up to prevent the day one ollie holes that tend to happen with the current version.
Hopefully, his shoe was ubershit in every possible level.Expand QuoteAny word of a new Chima model? In one of his IG stories last week it looked like he was wearing a Sk8-Low, the toe looked similar, but the stripe went further towards the back and there appeared to be a notch on the heel like the Chima 2, so basically it looked like a Sk8-Lo/Chima 2 mashed together.[close]
Did you get a screenshot? Pretty sure Chima is done with pro models like Berle . They pulled his model without a new one and he doesn’t even get colorways.
Hopefully, his shoe was ubershit in every possible level.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteAny word of a new Chima model? In one of his IG stories last week it looked like he was wearing a Sk8-Low, the toe looked similar, but the stripe went further towards the back and there appeared to be a notch on the heel like the Chima 2, so basically it looked like a Sk8-Lo/Chima 2 mashed together.[close]
Did you get a screenshot? Pretty sure Chima is done with pro models like Berle . They pulled his model without a new one and he doesn’t even get colorways.[close]
yes! And imo more blatantly the numeric 288s type collar.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteVery different. the pair he is wearing has heel pull tabs. AVE pro do not.[close]
That pull tab helps a lot when putting the shoe on as the collar is similar to a Prime Knit Adidas shoe.[close]
Expand QuoteHopefully, his shoe was ubershit in every possible level.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteAny word of a new Chima model? In one of his IG stories last week it looked like he was wearing a Sk8-Low, the toe looked similar, but the stripe went further towards the back and there appeared to be a notch on the heel like the Chima 2, so basically it looked like a Sk8-Lo/Chima 2 mashed together.[close]
Did you get a screenshot? Pretty sure Chima is done with pro models like Berle . They pulled his model without a new one and he doesn’t even get colorways.[close][close]
Wasn’t the rumor that Berle’s first shoe wasn’t his choice but Vans testing out new tech and his second would be his own design?
He is getting colorways.
But I rather have Chima get a new shoe.
I weirdly saw his first shoe frequently with non-skaters.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteHopefully, his shoe was ubershit in every possible level.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteAny word of a new Chima model? In one of his IG stories last week it looked like he was wearing a Sk8-Low, the toe looked similar, but the stripe went further towards the back and there appeared to be a notch on the heel like the Chima 2, so basically it looked like a Sk8-Lo/Chima 2 mashed together.[close]
Did you get a screenshot? Pretty sure Chima is done with pro models like Berle . They pulled his model without a new one and he doesn’t even get colorways.[close][close]
Wasn’t the rumor that Berle’s first shoe wasn’t his choice but Vans testing out new tech and his second would be his own design?
He is getting colorways.
But I rather have Chima get a new shoe.
I weirdly saw his first shoe frequently with non-skaters.[close]
No I heard Elijah was just lazy with input
And that dumb not removable insole. Ew.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteHopefully, his shoe was ubershit in every possible level.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteAny word of a new Chima model? In one of his IG stories last week it looked like he was wearing a Sk8-Low, the toe looked similar, but the stripe went further towards the back and there appeared to be a notch on the heel like the Chima 2, so basically it looked like a Sk8-Lo/Chima 2 mashed together.[close]
Did you get a screenshot? Pretty sure Chima is done with pro models like Berle . They pulled his model without a new one and he doesn’t even get colorways.[close][close]
Wasn’t the rumor that Berle’s first shoe wasn’t his choice but Vans testing out new tech and his second would be his own design?
He is getting colorways.
But I rather have Chima get a new shoe.
I weirdly saw his first shoe frequently with non-skaters.[close]
No I heard Elijah was just lazy with input[close]
I heard he was pushed to go with the new wafflecup at the time.
For me, it kinda makes sense since he mostly skates vulc shoes.
Expand QuoteHopefully, his shoe was ubershit in every possible level.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteAny word of a new Chima model? In one of his IG stories last week it looked like he was wearing a Sk8-Low, the toe looked similar, but the stripe went further towards the back and there appeared to be a notch on the heel like the Chima 2, so basically it looked like a Sk8-Lo/Chima 2 mashed together.[close]
Did you get a screenshot? Pretty sure Chima is done with pro models like Berle . They pulled his model without a new one and he doesn’t even get colorways.[close][close]
Wasn’t the rumor that Berle’s first shoe wasn’t his choice but Vans testing out new tech and his second would be his own design?
He is getting colorways.
But I rather have Chima get a new shoe.
I weirdly saw his first shoe frequently with non-skaters.
If you factor in the time they spend having to buy and ship the shoes in terms of hourly wages they're likely losing money.
Any Euro TMs or the like got a season/year for the new AVE shoe drop?
Also WTF with Vault getting dropped and now it’s OTW? Didn’t they have an OTW line that bombed once already??
Shot in the dark but does anyone know how much the Palace Carroll-ero pros are gonna go for?
Expand QuoteShot in the dark but does anyone know how much the Palace Carroll-ero pros are gonna go for?[close]
It’s Palace and a custom model. I’m gonna guess at least $100 minimum.
there are much worse outcomes than a $20 profit, stockx has an "under retail" filter, meaning a lot of resellers are losing money trying to flip shoesExpand QuoteIf you factor in the time they spend having to buy and ship the shoes in terms of hourly wages they're likely losing money.[close]
My friend introduced me to the term "bricking" in the shoe hustle game, which is when you buy an expensive shoe and make like $20 profit selling it after everything is said and done. I guess the high volume sellers take the risk because for every $20 shoe, there are some Travis Scott Dunks which you can sell for the price of a small car.
there are much worse outcomes than a $20 profit, stockx has an "under retail" filter, meaning a lot of resellers are losing money trying to flip shoesExpand QuoteExpand QuoteIf you factor in the time they spend having to buy and ship the shoes in terms of hourly wages they're likely losing money.[close]
My friend introduced me to the term "bricking" in the shoe hustle game, which is when you buy an expensive shoe and make like $20 profit selling it after everything is said and done. I guess the high volume sellers take the risk because for every $20 shoe, there are some Travis Scott Dunks which you can sell for the price of a small car.[close]
I can't fucking believe it's come to fighting scalping bots for a fucking museum. We live in a straight up dystopiaExpand Quotethere are much worse outcomes than a $20 profit, stockx has an "under retail" filter, meaning a lot of resellers are losing money trying to flip shoesExpand QuoteExpand QuoteIf you factor in the time they spend having to buy and ship the shoes in terms of hourly wages they're likely losing money.[close]
My friend introduced me to the term "bricking" in the shoe hustle game, which is when you buy an expensive shoe and make like $20 profit selling it after everything is said and done. I guess the high volume sellers take the risk because for every $20 shoe, there are some Travis Scott Dunks which you can sell for the price of a small car.[close][close]
High volume sellers like people who can get full size runs on shoes turn a better profit but usually need to find places/people that will buy in bulk. Most “resellers” are people who buy one pair and hopes they can buy a car with the profits. When in reality, even they’re not getting the really valuable pairs.
So most people are bricking sales. Making $8 profit (after StockX, Grailed, etc) take their cut. And buyers end up paying more in shipping than resellers make in profit.
And to my comment earlier about resellers, I’m just fed up with resellers in general. Most recently that my cousin visiting the states from the Philippines wanted to see the Broad museum. I tried to get tickets for a Saturday and resellers bot that site, take all the good times, and then sell them on Craigslist and shit for $50/pop. And they’re FREE tickets. I contacted one and offered $10/ticket and was told they’d rather let the ticket go to waste than not get their asking price. Fucking vultures.
I can't fucking believe it's come to fighting scalping bots for a fucking museum. We live in a straight up dystopiaExpand QuoteExpand Quotethere are much worse outcomes than a $20 profit, stockx has an "under retail" filter, meaning a lot of resellers are losing money trying to flip shoesExpand QuoteExpand QuoteIf you factor in the time they spend having to buy and ship the shoes in terms of hourly wages they're likely losing money.[close]
My friend introduced me to the term "bricking" in the shoe hustle game, which is when you buy an expensive shoe and make like $20 profit selling it after everything is said and done. I guess the high volume sellers take the risk because for every $20 shoe, there are some Travis Scott Dunks which you can sell for the price of a small car.[close][close]
High volume sellers like people who can get full size runs on shoes turn a better profit but usually need to find places/people that will buy in bulk. Most “resellers” are people who buy one pair and hopes they can buy a car with the profits. When in reality, even they’re not getting the really valuable pairs.
So most people are bricking sales. Making $8 profit (after StockX, Grailed, etc) take their cut. And buyers end up paying more in shipping than resellers make in profit.
And to my comment earlier about resellers, I’m just fed up with resellers in general. Most recently that my cousin visiting the states from the Philippines wanted to see the Broad museum. I tried to get tickets for a Saturday and resellers bot that site, take all the good times, and then sell them on Craigslist and shit for $50/pop. And they’re FREE tickets. I contacted one and offered $10/ticket and was told they’d rather let the ticket go to waste than not get their asking price. Fucking vultures.[close]
I can't fucking believe it's come to fighting scalping bots for a fucking museum. We live in a straight up dystopiaExpand QuoteExpand Quotethere are much worse outcomes than a $20 profit, stockx has an "under retail" filter, meaning a lot of resellers are losing money trying to flip shoesExpand QuoteExpand QuoteIf you factor in the time they spend having to buy and ship the shoes in terms of hourly wages they're likely losing money.[close]
My friend introduced me to the term "bricking" in the shoe hustle game, which is when you buy an expensive shoe and make like $20 profit selling it after everything is said and done. I guess the high volume sellers take the risk because for every $20 shoe, there are some Travis Scott Dunks which you can sell for the price of a small car.[close][close]
High volume sellers like people who can get full size runs on shoes turn a better profit but usually need to find places/people that will buy in bulk. Most “resellers” are people who buy one pair and hopes they can buy a car with the profits. When in reality, even they’re not getting the really valuable pairs.
So most people are bricking sales. Making $8 profit (after StockX, Grailed, etc) take their cut. And buyers end up paying more in shipping than resellers make in profit.
And to my comment earlier about resellers, I’m just fed up with resellers in general. Most recently that my cousin visiting the states from the Philippines wanted to see the Broad museum. I tried to get tickets for a Saturday and resellers bot that site, take all the good times, and then sell them on Craigslist and shit for $50/pop. And they’re FREE tickets. I contacted one and offered $10/ticket and was told they’d rather let the ticket go to waste than not get their asking price. Fucking vultures.[close]
My Skate Half Cabs came in today, and goddamn are they ever tight across the forefoot. Perfect lengthwise, but even with the laces undone as much as possible they still feel way too tight. Huge bummer as they feel and look amazing otherwise, but I guess I’m resigned to only buying shoes that are purposely wide as hell.use a pair of shoe-trees during a few nights, it could get the job done.
New Beatrice shoe is a color way
Zahba Mid in Olive that you’ve probably been seeing people skate
It's been posted before but
https://www.instagram.com/p/CuRnBxURoux/?igshid=NjZiM2M3MzIxNA==
I saw them teased again on Twitter and it made me look it up but yeah it's probably a slightly modified (so they don't gotta pay to use it) version of Manhattan Darling aka LLL typeface. I almost think it's meant to be ironic.Expand QuoteThis colorway is great, way better than the other Zahba mids that were posted, but that 'Beatrice' on the heels is a dealbreaker. Live laugh love ass typeface.[close]
Expand QuoteIt's been posted before but
https://www.instagram.com/p/CuRnBxURoux/?igshid=NjZiM2M3MzIxNA==[close]
This colorway is great, way better than the other Zahba mids that were posted, but that 'Beatrice' on the heels is a dealbreaker. Live laugh love ass typeface.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteIt's been posted before but
https://www.instagram.com/p/CuRnBxURoux/?igshid=NjZiM2M3MzIxNA==[close]
This colorway is great, way better than the other Zahba mids that were posted, but that 'Beatrice' on the heels is a dealbreaker. Live laugh love ass typeface.[close]
Looks more like “we have Evan Hecox/chocolate fonts at home”
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteIt's been posted before but
https://www.instagram.com/p/CuRnBxURoux/?igshid=NjZiM2M3MzIxNA==[close]
This colorway is great, way better than the other Zahba mids that were posted, but that 'Beatrice' on the heels is a dealbreaker. Live laugh love ass typeface.[close]
Looks more like “we have Evan Hecox/chocolate fonts at home”[close]
i wonder if vans regrets not making this shoe a reynolds pro model
New Beatrice shoe coming soon?
https://www.instagram.com/p/CuUi2Ejr6Bn/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/CuUi2Ejr6Bn/)
Not to hate on her but I'm amazed of how much love she gets from Vans. Remember a Pal saying that the amount of colorway she has are bigger than her trick bag lol.Expand QuoteNew Beatrice shoe coming soon?
https://www.instagram.com/p/CuUi2Ejr6Bn/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/CuUi2Ejr6Bn/)[close]
Please nooooooo
Expand QuoteI saw them teased again on Twitter and it made me look it up but yeah it's probably a slightly modified (so they don't gotta pay to use it) version of Manhattan Darling aka LLL typeface. I almost think it's meant to be ironic.Expand QuoteThis colorway is great, way better than the other Zahba mids that were posted, but that 'Beatrice' on the heels is a dealbreaker. Live laugh love ass typeface.[close][close]
EDIT: Kinda reminds me of this sketch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVhlJNJopOQ
Og great, another skate loafer for the clearance rack.
Lol you can’t make this shit up, another 5050 shuvThat was your 2000th post.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CuXJ8TePdsJ/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
Also looks like they changed the heel collar material out to fabric on those MCs. May have to give them another try.Expand QuoteOg great, another skate loafer for the clearance rack.[close]
I wish it was a nicer colorway at least.
But that Caroll looks beautiful.
OK BobbyThat was your 2000th post.Expand QuoteLol you can’t make this shit up, another 5050 shuv
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CuXJ8TePdsJ/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==[close]
Lol you can’t make this shit up, another 5050 shuv
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CuXJ8TePdsJ/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
So essentially Danica Patrick?Expand QuoteLol you can’t make this shit up, another 5050 shuv
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CuXJ8TePdsJ/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==[close]
If skateboarding was a normal sport this would be like an F1 driver being awarded a signature product when they were able to drive the car around the track at 100mph without crashing, but could never get up to race speed.
Not to hate on her but I'm amazed of how much love she gets from Vans. Remember a Pal saying that the amount of colorway she has are bigger than her trick bag lol.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteNew Beatrice shoe coming soon?
https://www.instagram.com/p/CuUi2Ejr6Bn/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/CuUi2Ejr6Bn/)[close]
Please nooooooo[close]
Not to hate on her but I'm amazed of how much love she gets from Vans. Remember a Pal saying that the amount of colorway she has are bigger than her trick bag lol.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteNew Beatrice shoe coming soon?
https://www.instagram.com/p/CuUi2Ejr6Bn/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/CuUi2Ejr6Bn/)[close]
Please nooooooo[close]
way more important: carroll nick michel colorway. i'm pretty anti-black outsole for the most part but these are pretty good.
https://www.561skateboarding.com/products/vans-skate-mc-96-vcu-nick-michel-navy (https://www.561skateboarding.com/products/vans-skate-mc-96-vcu-nick-michel-navy)
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0038/9709/8293/files/[email protected]?v=1688081479)
Also looks like they changed the heel collar material out to fabric on those MCs. May have to give them another try.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteOg great, another skate loafer for the clearance rack.[close]
I wish it was a nicer colorway at least.
But that Caroll looks beautiful.[close]
Did the Boys of Summer version have a faux leather material in there or was it fabric?
Expand QuoteAlso looks like they changed the heel collar material out to fabric on those MCs. May have to give them another try.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteOg great, another skate loafer for the clearance rack.[close]
I wish it was a nicer colorway at least.
But that Caroll looks beautiful.[close]
Did the Boys of Summer version have a faux leather material in there or was it fabric?[close]
The heel material looks similar (I threw out my pair after skating the heck out of them).
I like them. Definitely bulky but felt similar to a half cab. I got a lot of compliments but the price tag feels weird for a Vulc.
People have been having slip and also having blisters.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteAlso looks like they changed the heel collar material out to fabric on those MCs. May have to give them another try.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteOg great, another skate loafer for the clearance rack.[close]
I wish it was a nicer colorway at least.
But that Caroll looks beautiful.[close]
Did the Boys of Summer version have a faux leather material in there or was it fabric?[close]
The heel material looks similar (I threw out my pair after skating the heck out of them).
I like them. Definitely bulky but felt similar to a half cab. I got a lot of compliments but the price tag feels weird for a Vulc.[close]
the olive green ones look like they have leather on the heel, did your heel slip at all? i found a pair for $60, was thinking about trying them
On the subject of Papyrus:
“I want to devise a virus
To bring dire straits to your environment
Crush your corporations with a mild touch
Trash your whole computer system and revert you to papyrus”
https://youtu.be/WJaxFbdjm8c
Has anyone skated/worn the vans lowland models? I’m digging the look, I like that it’s a different vans stripe/wave logo and that it’s leather
Expand QuoteHas anyone skated/worn the vans lowland models? I’m digging the look, I like that it’s a different vans stripe/wave logo and that it’s leather[close]
I think they have the Comfy Cush sole which is 90% foam or something so you could skate them but they'll shred pretty quick if you are hard on your shoes.
Pedro Barros I think has some clips on his IG wearing them while skating, so they're skateable! That's all I got though
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteHas anyone skated/worn the vans lowland models? I’m digging the look, I like that it’s a different vans stripe/wave logo and that it’s leather[close]
I think they have the Comfy Cush sole which is 90% foam or something so you could skate them but they'll shred pretty quick if you are hard on your shoes.
Pedro Barros I think has some clips on his IG wearing them while skating, so they're skateable! That's all I got though[close]
When you have a shoe sponsor, you can skate any shoe without worry of how quickly it’ll shred.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteHas anyone skated/worn the vans lowland models? I’m digging the look, I like that it’s a different vans stripe/wave logo and that it’s leather[close]
I think they have the Comfy Cush sole which is 90% foam or something so you could skate them but they'll shred pretty quick if you are hard on your shoes.
Pedro Barros I think has some clips on his IG wearing them while skating, so they're skateable! That's all I got though[close]
When you have a shoe sponsor, you can skate any shoe without worry of how quickly it’ll shred.[close]
Definitely! It must be nice to "test" models like that and not worry about cost or whether you have another model to skate immediately after it! (Slap sale gear regulars excluded because they can do the same thing but aren't the norm)
Side note: Vans could/should do more experiments with making skateable versions of their comfy Cush/hiking/chiller models again, because there are some silhouettes and soles with lots of potential I think to be the next Half Cab or dunk-a-like.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteHas anyone skated/worn the vans lowland models? I’m digging the look, I like that it’s a different vans stripe/wave logo and that it’s leather[close]
I think they have the Comfy Cush sole which is 90% foam or something so you could skate them but they'll shred pretty quick if you are hard on your shoes.
Pedro Barros I think has some clips on his IG wearing them while skating, so they're skateable! That's all I got though[close]
When you have a shoe sponsor, you can skate any shoe without worry of how quickly it’ll shred.[close]
Definitely! It must be nice to "test" models like that and not worry about cost or whether you have another model to skate immediately after it! (Slap sale gear regulars excluded because they can do the same thing but aren't the norm)
Side note: Vans could/should do more experiments with making skateable versions of their comfy Cush/hiking/chiller models again, because there are some silhouettes and soles with lots of potential I think to be the next Half Cab or dunk-a-like.[close]
I legit like the BMX wafflecup slip-ons. Would love to have that sole on the Half Cab
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteHas anyone skated/worn the vans lowland models? I’m digging the look, I like that it’s a different vans stripe/wave logo and that it’s leather[close]
I think they have the Comfy Cush sole which is 90% foam or something so you could skate them but they'll shred pretty quick if you are hard on your shoes.
Pedro Barros I think has some clips on his IG wearing them while skating, so they're skateable! That's all I got though[close]
When you have a shoe sponsor, you can skate any shoe without worry of how quickly it’ll shred.[close]
Definitely! It must be nice to "test" models like that and not worry about cost or whether you have another model to skate immediately after it! (Slap sale gear regulars excluded because they can do the same thing but aren't the norm)
Side note: Vans could/should do more experiments with making skateable versions of their comfy Cush/hiking/chiller models again, because there are some silhouettes and soles with lots of potential I think to be the next Half Cab or dunk-a-like.[close]
I legit like the BMX wafflecup slip-ons. Would love to have that sole on the Half Cab[close]
I'll cosign this! I've only tried on BMX waffle cup in store but it did feel better than the skate waffle cup to me
Agreed. I have a pair of the comfy Cush slip ons from probably 2019 and they’re still one of my most comfortable pairs of shoesExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteHas anyone skated/worn the vans lowland models? I’m digging the look, I like that it’s a different vans stripe/wave logo and that it’s leather[close]
I think they have the Comfy Cush sole which is 90% foam or something so you could skate them but they'll shred pretty quick if you are hard on your shoes.
Pedro Barros I think has some clips on his IG wearing them while skating, so they're skateable! That's all I got though[close]
When you have a shoe sponsor, you can skate any shoe without worry of how quickly it’ll shred.[close]
Definitely! It must be nice to "test" models like that and not worry about cost or whether you have another model to skate immediately after it! (Slap sale gear regulars excluded because they can do the same thing but aren't the norm)
Side note: Vans could/should do more experiments with making skateable versions of their comfy Cush/hiking/chiller models again, because there are some silhouettes and soles with lots of potential I think to be the next Half Cab or dunk-a-like.
Could be that Vans sucks lately because everything had been done by AI?Expand QuoteOn the subject of Papyrus:
“I want to devise a virus
To bring dire straits to your environment
Crush your corporations with a mild touch
Trash your whole computer system and revert you to papyrus”
https://youtu.be/WJaxFbdjm8c[close]
Gnar'd for this top shelf Del reference!!!
Any Euro TMs or the like got a season/year for the new AVE shoe drop?
Also WTF with Vault getting dropped and now it’s OTW? Didn’t they have an OTW line that bombed once already??
lizzie lowThank God is not a 7483th Beatrice colorway.
https://freedomskateshop.de/en/products/vans-lizzie-low-skateschuh-turtledove
I was at a vans store the other day. Tried on skate half cabs and Crockett highs. The skate half cabs in my regular size were choking the life out of my feet. Half size up, they felt ok but not great. Crockett highs in my usual size felt anywhere from a half to full size too long. I either have the most fucked up feet or vans is going crazy with sizing these days.
I will say, the Crockett’s felt pretty nice. All of the uncertainty about the sizing has me a little hesitant though.
I was at a vans store the other day. Tried on skate half cabs and Crockett highs. The skate half cabs in my regular size were choking the life out of my feet. Half size up, they felt ok but not great. Crockett highs in my usual size felt anywhere from a half to full size too long. I either have the most fucked up feet or vans is going crazy with sizing these days.
I will say, the Crockett’s felt pretty nice. All of the uncertainty about the sizing has me a little hesitant though.
Expand QuoteI was at a vans store the other day. Tried on skate half cabs and Crockett highs. The skate half cabs in my regular size were choking the life out of my feet. Half size up, they felt ok but not great. Crockett highs in my usual size felt anywhere from a half to full size too long. I either have the most fucked up feet or vans is going crazy with sizing these days.
I will say, the Crockett’s felt pretty nice. All of the uncertainty about the sizing has me a little hesitant though.[close]
This is bang on. Could barely get the Skate half cabs on my feet in my size. Tried Crockett highs in my size and they felt great. Ended up getting Wayvees a half size up because they felt good in the shop, but after a few sessions they’re getting pretty loose. All that to say, I think a broken in pair of half size down Crockett highs would be ideal.
Has anyone tried the MTE ultrarange or any of the MTE models? I'm planning on using these for winter hiking/snowshoeingYes. I've ran them for winter needs of all sorts. Snow camping, hiking, pow surfing, shoveling after FEET of snow you name it. They are good and hold up. Have the GoreTex MTE Iguchi boots and they are tanks as stated. Plus Iguchi is a ripper of snow and skate so gotta support.
Shit this got me thinking I'm not sure where my Sk8-Hi MTEs are and winters comin up. Gotta find them foot jawns soon....Yes. I've ran them for winter needs of all sorts. Snow camping, hiking, pow surfing, shoveling after FEET of snow you name it. They are good and hold up. Have the GoreTex MTE Iguchi boots and they are tanks as stated. Plus Iguchi is a ripper of snow and skate so gotta support.Expand QuoteHas anyone tried the MTE ultrarange or any of the MTE models? I'm planning on using these for winter hiking/snowshoeing[close]
XLT's officially announced!
https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cxa4wNbufi0/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link (https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cxa4wNbufi0/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link)
Expand QuoteXLT's officially announced!
https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cxa4wNbufi0/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link (https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cxa4wNbufi0/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link)[close]
Really liked the XLT back in the days. They might be too puffy for me, these days
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteXLT's officially announced!
https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cxa4wNbufi0/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link (https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cxa4wNbufi0/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link)[close]
Really liked the XLT back in the days. They might be too puffy for me, these days[close]
The white ones I saw in the shop seemed normal to me. Didn’t look like a potato or anything
(https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/52c75691e4b083e90ebff495/5bf26b3b-58b2-4958-8618-6142990ae3c3/IMG_9879.JPG?format=1500w)
Looks like 18 East is releasing a Half Cab. Based on the details in the Village Psychic interview, I'm really hyped on it. Doesn't seem like it'll be based off the current Skate Half Cab model.
http://www.villagepsychic.net/blog/18-east-half-cab
Rowan 2s on the way.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Vans/comments/16un5uy/vans_rowan_2/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/Vans/comments/16un5uy/vans_rowan_2/)
Not particularly skate related, and they're only available in Japan, but I know there are some cycle nerds on here, so here's the Blue Lug x Vans collab.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CxXqmtAyS5D/?img_index=1
(https://i.imgur.com/pZobkSO.png)
Images of these Carrolls surfaced about a year ago. Anyone know if they're still going to be released? I heard possibly November from a nice Pal, but haven't seen or heard anything else.
Expand QuoteRowan 2s on the way.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Vans/comments/16un5uy/vans_rowan_2/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/Vans/comments/16un5uy/vans_rowan_2/)[close]
Oct 20th (?)
I kinda dig the white stitching on black leather.
Yeah they're everywhere now...not sure I can justify $110 on Vans these days (even tho I like the look of them); The black and white still look great...but if I was going to go that route, them 480s would be it.
Also, why do Vans always look pronated out of the box (see attached)?
Went to the store and tried on the Rowan 2s and hot damn, the toe box on that thing is tapered and skinny. Like worse than the Ultrarange skate and the Zahbas. Unless you’re skinny with skinny feet, these might feel a bit tight.
Guess I’m sticking to Wayvees for the time being
Checked out the Rowan's in person today, they are so oddly narrow and pointy it wasn't even worth trying them on as it would have been an exercise in futility and a waste of the employees time. They have a wide shoe 'shape' at the metatarsal area it's still super skinny and the toe box is a literally a triangle; horrible.
Totally different shoe...where the OG Rowan had Half Cab vibes, the R2 is def leaning towards the Zahba end of the spectrum.
Lizzie Low
https://www.instagram.com/p/CzCCXmGvKCD/
Expand QuoteLizzie Low
https://www.instagram.com/p/CzCCXmGvKCD/[close]
Clean your microwave, woman.
Expand QuoteLizzie Low
https://www.instagram.com/p/CzCCXmGvKCD/[close]
Clean your microwave, woman.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteLizzie Low
https://www.instagram.com/p/CzCCXmGvKCD/[close]
Clean your microwave, woman.[close]
That’s an axel task
Expand QuoteChecked out the Rowan's in person today, they are so oddly narrow and pointy it wasn't even worth trying them on as it would have been an exercise in futility and a waste of the employees time. They have a wide shoe 'shape' at the metatarsal area it's still super skinny and the toe box is a literally a triangle; horrible.
Totally different shoe...where the OG Rowan had Half Cab vibes, the R2 is def leaning towards the Zahba end of the spectrum.[close]
I wonder if this is the choice of the pro rider, or someone in R&D or even just randomly done, but some toe areas are so big and wide, while others are so narrow and pointy in consecutive shoes, even some upgraded shoes have changed like this over the years, eg Half Cabs - some older ones are way more rounded in the toe area than the more recent ones, which are squashing my toes right now in this new pair.
Older models I had I recall talking about a lot that I also pulled out not too long ago to compare to some current shoes:
TNT - wide and round
TNT2 - a bit more pointy
TNT5 very pointy
Rowans - lots of room in the toe area
AVE Sk8 low - very pointy but worked well
Rowley Shambles - very pointy
Rowley Solo - medium pointy but worked well
Rowleys in the yellow box I can't remember the name of, but they were a lot more round
A few team models I can't remember the names of but were very round and I would have bought a lot more of those, but they only came out more so in weird colours.
Too many others to go through right now...
A question for every pal who has/had Half Cab Pros and the newer Skate Half Cab's.sizing feels approximate to the pros, just ever so slightly smaller maybe...but not enough to adjust the size. I still have a holdover of the pros and I skate them and the "skate" version pretty regularly. The only reason I intermingle them is I find the skate version is way more uncomfortable, but I gotta break them in somehow and walking around just wasn't doing it. Also they are slightly higher and the foxing is just barely a hair higher on the skate version. I wish they just would bring the pro version back and get rid of the iron collar these skate ones have. Also finally putting the skate version on is just harder than the pro version...if you're like me and wear shoes slightly loose so you can slip your foot in, but requires two hands for the skate version.
Biggest difference seems to be, that the ankle collar is way stiffer and the shoe takes a bit longer to break in, right? What about sizing? Should I get the same size as in the previous Half Cab or Reebok's or Lakai's? And what about the Half Cab 92s? The green ones look kool.
I just want them for chilling and maybe cruising.
Still don't know when I will be able to skate again. The injuries and problems keep piling up.
I like the upper for the pros way more but the sole on the skate version is undeniably better for me. The pros would mush out so much it felt like walking on marshmallows after 3 sessions.sizing feels approximate to the pros, just ever so slightly smaller maybe...but not enough to adjust the size. I still have a holdover of the pros and I skate them and the "skate" version pretty regularly. The only reason I intermingle them is I find the skate version is way more uncomfortable, but I gotta break them in somehow and walking around just wasn't doing it. Also they are slightly higher and the foxing is just barely a hair higher on the skate version. I wish they just would bring the pro version back and get rid of the iron collar these skate ones have. Also finally putting the skate version on is just harder than the pro version...if you're like me and wear shoes slightly loose so you can slip your foot in, but requires two hands for the skate version.Expand QuoteA question for every pal who has/had Half Cab Pros and the newer Skate Half Cab's.
Biggest difference seems to be, that the ankle collar is way stiffer and the shoe takes a bit longer to break in, right? What about sizing? Should I get the same size as in the previous Half Cab or Reebok's or Lakai's? And what about the Half Cab 92s? The green ones look kool.
I just want them for chilling and maybe cruising.
Still don't know when I will be able to skate again. The injuries and problems keep piling up.[close]
Is there a new AVE in the works? I’m probably the only hardcore AVE devotee here so I’m curious what a new one would entail.
Is there a new AVE in the works? I’m probably the only hardcore AVE devotee here so I’m curious what a new one would entail.From the Upcoming Shoes thread:
From the Upcoming Shoes thread:Expand QuoteIs there a new AVE in the works? I’m probably the only hardcore AVE devotee here so I’m curious what a new one would entail.[close]
(https://i.ibb.co/tcWYMpc/54699810-C254-4833-B2-DC-73-E9-A9-E48881.jpg)
It feels like Vans on the 2000'sExpand QuoteFrom the Upcoming Shoes thread:Expand QuoteIs there a new AVE in the works? I’m probably the only hardcore AVE devotee here so I’m curious what a new one would entail.[close]
(https://i.ibb.co/tcWYMpc/54699810-C254-4833-B2-DC-73-E9-A9-E48881.jpg)[close]
Thanks, that’s interesting. It looks like it has a bigger heel drop than original, which is one of the things I like most about the AVE - it feels fairly flat. Otherwise it’s a bunch of marketing gobbledegook.
I’m sure I’ll try a pair when they’re $45 on sale in 2025.
From the Upcoming Shoes thread:Expand QuoteIs there a new AVE in the works? I’m probably the only hardcore AVE devotee here so I’m curious what a new one would entail.[close]
(https://i.ibb.co/tcWYMpc/54699810-C254-4833-B2-DC-73-E9-A9-E48881.jpg)
Expand Quote(https://i.imgur.com/pZobkSO.png)
Images of these Carrolls surfaced about a year ago. Anyone know if they're still going to be released? I heard possibly November from a nice Pal, but haven't seen or heard anything else.[close]
I def saw them in person in a Vans rep haul at my local many months ago. The Rowan 2s and White XLTs were in that haul, so November/Dec seems reasonable as those models appear to be coming soon
From the Upcoming Shoes thread:Expand QuoteIs there a new AVE in the works? I’m probably the only hardcore AVE devotee here so I’m curious what a new one would entail.[close]
(https://i.ibb.co/tcWYMpc/54699810-C254-4833-B2-DC-73-E9-A9-E48881.jpg)
Anyone aware of any other colorways coming out for these Skate Authentic Mids? Brown suede seems to be the initial color
(https://njskateshop.com/cdn/shop/files/[email protected]?v=1704222748)
Anyone aware of any other colorways coming out for these Skate Authentic Mids? Brown suede seems to be the initial color
(https://njskateshop.com/cdn/shop/files/[email protected]?v=1704222748)
Expand QuoteAnyone aware of any other colorways coming out for these Skate Authentic Mids? Brown suede seems to be the initial color
(https://njskateshop.com/cdn/shop/files/[email protected]?v=1704222748)[close]
Jesus just make a regular chukka boot again already.
@Atiba Applebum just in case. This is a "new" shoe, Authentic Mid.
You might be talking about the Authentic Hi
(http://www.skateparkoftampa.com/spot/productimages/colors/17128_92685.jpg)I was talking chukkaExpand Quote@Atiba Applebum just in case. This is a "new" shoe, Authentic Mid.
You might be talking about the Authentic Hi[close]
(http://www.skateparkoftampa.com/spot/productimages/colors/17128_92685.jpg)Expand QuoteI was talking chukkaExpand Quote@Atiba Applebum just in case. This is a "new" shoe, Authentic Mid.
You might be talking about the Authentic Hi[close][close]
(http://www.skateparkoftampa.com/spot/productimages/colors/16910_92685.jpg)
Expand Quote(http://www.skateparkoftampa.com/spot/productimages/colors/17128_92685.jpg)Expand QuoteI was talking chukkaExpand Quote@Atiba Applebum just in case. This is a "new" shoe, Authentic Mid.
You might be talking about the Authentic Hi[close][close]
(http://www.skateparkoftampa.com/spot/productimages/colors/16910_92685.jpg)[close]
There was also a brown one that was a Noah collab that was only released at Noah that I’m happy to have claimed
Expand QuoteAnyone aware of any other colorways coming out for these Skate Authentic Mids? Brown suede seems to be the initial color
(https://njskateshop.com/cdn/shop/files/[email protected]?v=1704222748)[close]
i see nothing on SS24 but there's a full black and a royal blue (canvas) coming for FW24
I believe the magenta were europe exclusive.Expand QuoteExpand Quote(http://www.skateparkoftampa.com/spot/productimages/colors/17128_92685.jpg)Expand QuoteI was talking chukkaExpand Quote@Atiba Applebum just in case. This is a "new" shoe, Authentic Mid.
You might be talking about the Authentic Hi[close][close]
(http://www.skateparkoftampa.com/spot/productimages/colors/16910_92685.jpg)[close]
There was also a brown one that was a Noah collab that was only released at Noah that I’m happy to have claimed[close]
And a pair of corduroy magenta collabs if I'm not mistaken
Expand QuoteAnyone aware of any other colorways coming out for these Skate Authentic Mids? Brown suede seems to be the initial color
(https://njskateshop.com/cdn/shop/files/[email protected]?v=1704222748)[close]
Jesus just make a regular chukka boot again already.
Anyone aware of any other colorways coming out for these Skate Authentic Mids? Brown suede seems to be the initial color
(https://njskateshop.com/cdn/shop/files/[email protected]?v=1704222748)
Just got some Black/White Old Skool’s.
I need better arch support than what the PopCush provides.
Does anyone with similar needs have suggestions on some insoles to buy?
I had a few pairs of Chukka boots in 1990-1991. I like the shoe but the side seem was a blow out spot. I like these Authentic mids a lot. Eras/Authentics hold up a little better than the chukka boots did.
I would buy 2 pairs of these right now if I could confirm that the Authentic mids have a full lining in the inside heel area and not the exposed heel cup stitching that the Authentic low, Era, and Old Skools have.
Expand QuoteJust got some Black/White Old Skool’s.
I need better arch support than what the PopCush provides.
Does anyone with similar needs have suggestions on some insoles to buy?[close]
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=103113.0
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteJust got some Black/White Old Skool’s.
I need better arch support than what the PopCush provides.
Does anyone with similar needs have suggestions on some insoles to buy?[close]
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=103113.0[close]
@WideFeet
The problem with just about everything listed in the above thread is that none of them are as thicc as the popcush insole; I've never found one with decent arch support that can replace and feel as well as fit how the popcush feels in whichever vans they come in. The closest I got was with some generic ass flat NB# insole form a vulc pair and then stacked the superfeet flex on top of it (and it was still too low).
Same issue with the old Suciu ADVs (I bet those insole were thicc enough to swap for popcush).
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteJust got some Black/White Old Skool’s.
I need better arch support than what the PopCush provides.
Does anyone with similar needs have suggestions on some insoles to buy?[close]
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=103113.0[close]
@WideFeet
The problem with just about everything listed in the above thread is that none of them are as thicc as the popcush insole; I've never found one with decent arch support that can replace and feel as well as fit how the popcush feels in whichever vans they come in. The closest I got was with some generic ass flat NB# insole form a vulc pair and then stacked the superfeet flex on top of it (and it was still too low).
Same issue with the old Suciu ADVs (I bet those insole were thicc enough to swap for popcush).[close]
Actually the Adidas adiprene insole that came in sucius and superstar adv works great as a popcush replacement. I swap them on some Kyle walker and half cab pros, I couldn't skate them otherwise. Adiprene is a little taller than popcush but not that much, and they have some arch support.
But if you really want arch support just don't buy Vans.
@WideFeet my 2 cents would be to try State insoles (dense and thick but not Popcush thick) or Etnies STI insoles and add a thinner (think stock NB 440 insole) insole on top to give support and get fit dialed. I've done that to make shoes more supportive, yet comfortable enough to wear/skate
Is the sk8-hi or sk8-lo advisable? It's the only model I havn't tried, wayvee wasn't that nice for me. I might just get some slip ons and call it a day...
I've got some bad arches too. The Etnies insoles are alright but they're no better/worse versus like a Dr Scholl's. Honestly your best bet is to just buy some off the shelf insoles that help with arches, or get some supportive insert. Pronation is an absolute bitch, and generally skate shoes don't help with that kind of thing. Maybe if you haven't tried some of the New Balance cupsoles you could try those out.Expand Quote
@WideFeet my 2 cents would be to try State insoles (dense and thick but not Popcush thick) or Etnies STI insoles and add a thinner (think stock NB 440 insole) insole on top to give support and get fit dialed. I've done that to make shoes more supportive, yet comfortable enough to wear/skate[close]
Thanks for the input. I really doubt any of those options will have the arch support I need. I think my arches are really arched. Plus my pronation, it doesn’t make for a good combination
Is the sk8-hi or sk8-lo advisable? It's the only model I havn't tried, wayvee wasn't that nice for me. I might just get some slip ons and call it a day...
Expand QuoteIs the sk8-hi or sk8-lo advisable? It's the only model I havn't tried, wayvee wasn't that nice for me. I might just get some slip ons and call it a day...[close]
I really liked the one pair of sk8-lo's I had - haven't tried sk8-hi's but my friends always bellyache about how long they take to tie/untie
The vulc Rowan is still their best pro model, imo
Is the sk8-hi or sk8-lo advisable? It's the only model I havn't tried, wayvee wasn't that nice for me. I might just get some slip ons and call it a day...
Had a pair of Rowans, thought they were really comfy but not that good for flip tricks, too chunky.
SKATE Half Cabs are pretty good, it takes me 4 to 5 sessions to break them in but then they last really long (and they look fantastic even if they're a bit different from the Pro ones).
SKATE SK8-Mids are dope, just avoid the black-white-emo colorway (be careful, it's the classic black with white sole colorway but the upper is made of a weird material that's stiffer than steel and makes the shoe really uncomfortable; you'll be fine if the upper is made of canvas).
Interesting you find the Rowans more chunky than Half Cabs for flip tricks. The toe shape is nearly identical to my eye and feel.
Personally didn't find flipping my board that tough in them. Other than the side panel being weak compared to the rest of the upper (and the classic Vans sole that goes bald in less than 3 weeks), I couldn't find anything to complain about
I agree main draw is definitely the comfy-ness. Nice wide mid-foot and toe box, pretty generous padding at the collar, padded but not poofy tongue, 15 min break-in.... yeah, that's all really I want from Vans at this point
I'm breaking in a pair of the emo colorway right now and they feel alright. Definitely stiffer than canvas, but they're not that bad.
I find the rowans to be less chunky than the half cabs. In fact they feel like half cabs used to feel like before the "skate" line was created. They're a phenomenal shoe.Expand Quote
Had a pair of Rowans, thought they were really comfy but not that good for flip tricks, too chunky.
SKATE Half Cabs are pretty good, it takes me 4 to 5 sessions to break them in but then they last really long (and they look fantastic even if they're a bit different from the Pro ones).[close]
Interesting you find the Rowans more chunky than Half Cabs for flip tricks. The toe shape is nearly identical to my eye and feel.
Personally didn't find flipping my board that tough in them. Other than the side panel being weak compared to the rest of the upper (and the classic Vans sole that goes bald in less than 3 weeks), I couldn't find anything to complain about
I agree main draw is definitely the comfy-ness. Nice wide mid-foot and toe box, pretty generous padding at the collar, padded but not poofy tongue, 15 min break-in.... yeah, that's all really I want from Vans at this point
Expand Quote
SKATE SK8-Mids are dope, just avoid the black-white-emo colorway (be careful, it's the classic black with white sole colorway but the upper is made of a weird material that's stiffer than steel and makes the shoe really uncomfortable; you'll be fine if the upper is made of canvas).[close]
I'm breaking in a pair of the emo colorway right now and they feel alright. Definitely stiffer than canvas, but they're not that bad.
Is the emo leather the synthetic/waxy material? I agree that the material is stiff and takes some time to break in, but it makes the shoe last so long. I had a pair of Old Schools Pros with this material on the sidewall and skated them for months before I ripped through the material. I skated a pair of Old School Pros with a canvas sidewall and ripped through to the sock in less than a week.
They did feel kind of similar to the new SKATE Half Cabs but I had Rowans first then those new Half Cabs so who knows, maybe I got used to that chunkiness with my Half Cabs? Could be tempted to get a second pair if I found one for half price in a decent colorway.
Expand QuoteThey did feel kind of similar to the new SKATE Half Cabs but I had Rowans first then those new Half Cabs so who knows, maybe I got used to that chunkiness with my Half Cabs? Could be tempted to get a second pair if I found one for half price in a decent colorway.[close]
I keep checking, they rarely go on sale, specifically in good colors. They're fairly popular even in my small-ish city, so I imagine they must sell at least half decent. Considering they have him a second model, he must be bringing some cash flow in.
BUT eating my words a bit, here's a clean blue/white colorway for 50$...
https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Vans_Rowan_Pro_Shoes/descpage-VARBL.html
Anyone able to compare the Rowan 2s to other cupsoles on the market (Dunks, NB 1010, etc)? That sole looks insanely chunky to me but I’m curious if it translates to 0 boardfeel or if there’s more going on than meets the eye.This site has a bunch of reviews of shoes
This site has a bunch of reviews of shoesExpand QuoteAnyone able to compare the Rowan 2s to other cupsoles on the market (Dunks, NB 1010, etc)? That sole looks insanely chunky to me but I’m curious if it translates to 0 boardfeel or if there’s more going on than meets the eye.[close]
https://www.weartested.com/vans-rowan-2/
Anyone able to compare the Rowan 2s to other cupsoles on the market (Dunks, NB 1010, etc)? That sole looks insanely chunky to me but I’m curious if it translates to 0 boardfeel or if there’s more going on than meets the eye.
This site has a bunch of reviews of shoesExpand QuoteAnyone able to compare the Rowan 2s to other cupsoles on the market (Dunks, NB 1010, etc)? That sole looks insanely chunky to me but I’m curious if it translates to 0 boardfeel or if there’s more going on than meets the eye.[close]
https://www.weartested.com/vans-rowan-2/
Anyone able to compare the Rowan 2s to other cupsoles on the market (Dunks, NB 1010, etc)? That sole looks insanely chunky to me but I’m curious if it translates to 0 boardfeel or if there’s more going on than meets the eye.
Love it, thanks all for the info. Was leaning towards another pair of 1010s or some 480s, but may give the Rowan 2s a shot instead.
New authentic highs
https://rosestreetskateshop.com/products/vans-skate-authentic-high-navy-black
Expand QuoteLove it, thanks all for the info. Was leaning towards another pair of 1010s or some 480s, but may give the Rowan 2s a shot instead.[close]
Same here. Thanks,Curb. Picking up a pair of Rowan 2 for my old feet/back/hips
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteLove it, thanks all for the info. Was leaning towards another pair of 1010s or some 480s, but may give the Rowan 2s a shot instead.[close]
Same here. Thanks,Curb. Picking up a pair of Rowan 2 for my old feet/back/hips[close]
Hope you like them. I'm a fossil and my feet barely have any pain post session🙌
I'm glad to hear the Rowan 2 isn't a flop, I see there's a spitfire collab out
I'm not big into wheel and truck company collab shoes but they look ok
Expand QuoteI'm glad to hear the Rowan 2 isn't a flop, I see there's a spitfire collab out
I'm not big into wheel and truck company collab shoes but they look ok[close]
They're pretty low key, no logos blasted everywhere; tho I would not have minded the heel counter graphic having some color to it.
Found an insole for arch support that works in them and really digging the shoe again. Hopefully some more/new colorways drop.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI'm glad to hear the Rowan 2 isn't a flop, I see there's a spitfire collab out
I'm not big into wheel and truck company collab shoes but they look ok[close]
They're pretty low key, no logos blasted everywhere; tho I would not have minded the heel counter graphic having some color to it.
Found an insole for arch support that works in them and really digging the shoe again. Hopefully some more/new colorways drop.[close]
Yeah, I’m looking forward to more colorways, too. The chocolate/purpleish is the only one I really dig so far.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI'm glad to hear the Rowan 2 isn't a flop, I see there's a spitfire collab out
I'm not big into wheel and truck company collab shoes but they look ok[close]
They're pretty low key, no logos blasted everywhere; tho I would not have minded the heel counter graphic having some color to it.
Found an insole for arch support that works in them and really digging the shoe again. Hopefully some more/new colorways drop.[close]
Yeah, I’m looking forward to more colorways, too. The chocolate/purpleish is the only one I really dig so far.[close]
Same, but I settled for the black upper, white outsole; the pics of the chocolate don't help, they look really red like clay red/milk chocolate and no one has that colorway around here to see in 'real world lighting'.
(https://i.ibb.co/4Tqg8vk/IMG-3147.jpg) (https://ibb.co/4Tqg8vk)
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI'm glad to hear the Rowan 2 isn't a flop, I see there's a spitfire collab out
I'm not big into wheel and truck company collab shoes but they look ok[close]
They're pretty low key, no logos blasted everywhere; tho I would not have minded the heel counter graphic having some color to it.
Found an insole for arch support that works in them and really digging the shoe again. Hopefully some more/new colorways drop.[close]
Yeah, I’m looking forward to more colorways, too. The chocolate/purpleish is the only one I really dig so far.[close]
Same, but I settled for the black upper, white outsole; the pics of the chocolate don't help, they look really red like clay red/milk chocolate and no one has that colorway around here to see in 'real world lighting'.
(https://i.ibb.co/4Tqg8vk/IMG-3147.jpg) (https://ibb.co/4Tqg8vk)[close]
I have them and they look very close to that picture. There are a few new colorways on the Vans website.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI'm glad to hear the Rowan 2 isn't a flop, I see there's a spitfire collab out
I'm not big into wheel and truck company collab shoes but they look ok[close]
They're pretty low key, no logos blasted everywhere; tho I would not have minded the heel counter graphic having some color to it.
Found an insole for arch support that works in them and really digging the shoe again. Hopefully some more/new colorways drop.[close]
Yeah, I’m looking forward to more colorways, too. The chocolate/purpleish is the only one I really dig so far.[close]
Same, but I settled for the black upper, white outsole; the pics of the chocolate don't help, they look really red like clay red/milk chocolate and no one has that colorway around here to see in 'real world lighting'.
(https://i.ibb.co/4Tqg8vk/IMG-3147.jpg) (https://ibb.co/4Tqg8vk)[close]
I have them and they look very close to that picture. There are a few new colorways on the Vans website.[close]
The black and brown are cool but the spitfire collab look really nice.
(https://images.vans.com/is/image/Vans/VN0A2Z3I_BFM_ALT2?wid=800&hei=1004&fmt=jpeg&qlt=50&resMode=sharp2&op_usm=0.9,1.5,8,0)
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI'm glad to hear the Rowan 2 isn't a flop, I see there's a spitfire collab out
I'm not big into wheel and truck company collab shoes but they look ok[close]
They're pretty low key, no logos blasted everywhere; tho I would not have minded the heel counter graphic having some color to it.
Found an insole for arch support that works in them and really digging the shoe again. Hopefully some more/new colorways drop.[close]
Yeah, I’m looking forward to more colorways, too. The chocolate/purpleish is the only one I really dig so far.[close]
Same, but I settled for the black upper, white outsole; the pics of the chocolate don't help, they look really red like clay red/milk chocolate and no one has that colorway around here to see in 'real world lighting'.
(https://i.ibb.co/4Tqg8vk/IMG-3147.jpg) (https://ibb.co/4Tqg8vk)[close]
I have them and they look very close to that picture. There are a few new colorways on the Vans website.[close]
The black and brown are cool but the spitfire collab look really nice.
(https://images.vans.com/is/image/Vans/VN0A2Z3I_BFM_ALT2?wid=800&hei=1004&fmt=jpeg&qlt=50&resMode=sharp2&op_usm=0.9,1.5,8,0)
Are Rowan 2s worth the C-note? Those joints were calling me after I handled and tried them on today at my local Vans store.
Expand QuoteNew authentic highs
https://rosestreetskateshop.com/products/vans-skate-authentic-high-navy-black[close]
These look dope. I've only ever skated eras, is the only difference the padding around the heel?
I have a pair of both and yeah padding around the heel is the only real difference. The padding makes it fit tighter in that area for me and my foot doesn't lift up quite as much. I have to size up a little because my feet are pretty wide and the Eras have less heel slip than the Authentics thanks to the padding in the heel area. The Authentics look a bit wider in the midfoot section but I have the Eras laced tighter so I think it's just that.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteNew authentic highs
https://rosestreetskateshop.com/products/vans-skate-authentic-high-navy-black[close]
These look dope. I've only ever skated eras, is the only difference the padding around the heel?[close]
I want to say yes after years of skating both but I think the eras are slightly wider due to the padding? I’ve only skated the newer eras tho haven’t had any authentics since they upgraded the skate line a few years back. Dunno if the high changes that either but other than yeah it’s basically just the padding .
seems like vans is going through an identity crisis. i think i'm pretty much unable to skate in their vulcs anymore. tried some basically brand new half cabs, my feet were aching for hours after. I'm really old though.You know, nobody asked me to do so, but I kind of want to rant about this for a little bit.
seems like vans is going through an identity crisis. i think i'm pretty much unable to skate in their vulcs anymore. tried some basically brand new half cabs, my feet were aching for hours after. I'm really old though.
Vans just relaunched their Vault line as "OTW" and there's a lot of trash
https://otw.vans.com/en-us/c/otw-90083
https://shop-eat-surf.com/2024/02/sp-vf-will-need-to-sell-sizeable-brands-to-ease-debt-burden/
Vans just relaunched their Vault line as "OTW" and there's a lot of trash
https://otw.vans.com/en-us/c/otw-90083
Anyone bought vans classics lately?(who doesn't hate vans) has the quality dropped significantly or anything?
Sick thanks. I'm like 65% vans for the last 25 years but I prob regret more than half of my non vans purchases.Expand QuoteAnyone bought vans classics lately?(who doesn't hate vans) has the quality dropped significantly or anything?[close]
I bought a pair of regular Eras a month or so ago. For a few years prior I was wearing Skate Customs in all suede. The last pair of Custom Skates fell apart pretty fast, and I didn't even skate in them. I figured for that price/quality I'll go back to regular Eras and put in some better insoles. So I tore out the insoles and put in some older UltraCush. I couldn't use PopCush insoles cause I had no room left for my toes. The regular Eras with Ultracush took a little bit of breaking in whereas the Custom Pro/Skate were comfy right out of the box. So I guess long winded way to say the regular ones seem pretty regular from what I remember? A little tighter than before maybe? We'll see how long they last. Unsure what I'll get next. Might abandon Vans and get sperry topsiders or some shit, and I've been wearing vans nearly exclusively for like 25 years.
There are two new (normal) colorways of genuine suede/leather XLTs on the regular Vans site nowExpand QuoteVans just relaunched their Vault line as "OTW" and there's a lot of trash
https://otw.vans.com/en-us/c/otw-90083[close]
Hold up non-synth Rowley XLTs... Shame I can't get down with ANY of those colorways
Cmon SLAP, let’s make VF an offer on Vans so it can be skater-owned again.Expand Quotehttps://shop-eat-surf.com/2024/02/sp-vf-will-need-to-sell-sizeable-brands-to-ease-debt-burden/[close]
Ouch.
I'll throw 5 in as well. My job search isn't going great so I'll be TM and all decisions regarding who gets on and who gets of will be made through Slap polls.Cmon SLAP, let’s make VF an offer on Vans so it can be skater-owned again.Expand QuoteExpand Quotehttps://shop-eat-surf.com/2024/02/sp-vf-will-need-to-sell-sizeable-brands-to-ease-debt-burden/[close]
Ouch.[close]
I got 5 on it.
Besides, I need a job anyway…
I'll throw 5 in as well. My job search isn't going great so I'll be TM and all decisions regarding who gets on and who gets of will be made through Slap polls.Expand QuoteCmon SLAP, let’s make VF an offer on Vans so it can be skater-owned again.Expand QuoteExpand Quotehttps://shop-eat-surf.com/2024/02/sp-vf-will-need-to-sell-sizeable-brands-to-ease-debt-burden/[close]
Ouch.[close]
I got 5 on it.
Besides, I need a job anyway…[close]
It’s on the first things to do listExpand QuoteI'll throw 5 in as well. My job search isn't going great so I'll be TM and all decisions regarding who gets on and who gets of will be made through Slap polls.Expand QuoteCmon SLAP, let’s make VF an offer on Vans so it can be skater-owned again.Expand QuoteExpand Quotehttps://shop-eat-surf.com/2024/02/sp-vf-will-need-to-sell-sizeable-brands-to-ease-debt-burden/[close]
Ouch.[close]
I got 5 on it.
Besides, I need a job anyway…[close][close]
I'll throw in five bucks if you add Half Cabs to the customs section of the website.
Vans just relaunched their Vault line as "OTW" and there's a lot of trash
https://otw.vans.com/en-us/c/otw-90083
Expand QuoteVans just relaunched their Vault line as "OTW" and there's a lot of trash
https://otw.vans.com/en-us/c/otw-90083[close]
This is definitely one of those things people look back on in 5-10 years when they're writing an article about how Vans lost their way.
Sick thanks. I'm like 65% vans for the last 25 years but I prob regret more than half of my non vans purchases.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteAnyone bought vans classics lately?(who doesn't hate vans) has the quality dropped significantly or anything?[close]
I bought a pair of regular Eras a month or so ago. For a few years prior I was wearing Skate Customs in all suede. The last pair of Custom Skates fell apart pretty fast, and I didn't even skate in them. I figured for that price/quality I'll go back to regular Eras and put in some better insoles. So I tore out the insoles and put in some older UltraCush. I couldn't use PopCush insoles cause I had no room left for my toes. The regular Eras with Ultracush took a little bit of breaking in whereas the Custom Pro/Skate were comfy right out of the box. So I guess long winded way to say the regular ones seem pretty regular from what I remember? A little tighter than before maybe? We'll see how long they last. Unsure what I'll get next. Might abandon Vans and get sperry topsiders or some shit, and I've been wearing vans nearly exclusively for like 25 years.[close]
Aus sites got a bunch of pig suedes for like 70% off I think I'll take the gamble. Funny I still run the insoles out of my TNT 2s from like 06 or something. I must have put 20k KMs on them and they still feel better than anything else and so far they fit into most classic vans once you rip the stock out (altho I actually like keeping the stock in for as long as possible)
Who is the target demographic for the OTW line? It’s crazy that some of it is sold out.Expand QuoteVans just relaunched their Vault line as "OTW" and there's a lot of trash
https://otw.vans.com/en-us/c/otw-90083[close]
This is definitely one of those things people look back on in 5-10 years when they're writing an article about how Vans lost their way.
The funniest thing is that the vault line was already this type of shit. they just relaunched it with an inferior name. also why is the XLT is being marketed as a OTW shoe... nobody outside of skateboarding gives a shit. I'm going to write an angry letter to Vans' President about this, and offer my services.Expand QuoteVans just relaunched their Vault line as "OTW" and there's a lot of trash
https://otw.vans.com/en-us/c/otw-90083[close]
This is definitely one of those things people look back on in 5-10 years when they're writing an article about how Vans lost their way.
The funniest thing is that the vault line was already this type of shit. they just relaunched it with an inferior name. also why is the XLT is being marketed as a OTW shoe... nobody outside of skateboarding gives a shit. I'm going to write an angry letter to Vans' President about this, and offer my services.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteVans just relaunched their Vault line as "OTW" and there's a lot of trash
https://otw.vans.com/en-us/c/otw-90083[close]
This is definitely one of those things people look back on in 5-10 years when they're writing an article about how Vans lost their way.[close]
There are two new (normal) colorways of genuine suede/leather XLTs on the regular Vans site nowExpand QuoteExpand QuoteVans just relaunched their Vault line as "OTW" and there's a lot of trash
https://otw.vans.com/en-us/c/otw-90083[close]
Hold up non-synth Rowley XLTs... Shame I can't get down with ANY of those colorways[close]
https://www.vans.com/en-us/shoes-c00081/rowley-xlt-shoe-pvn000ctmba2
(https://images.vans.com/is/image/Vans/VN000CTM_BA2_HERO)(https://images.vans.com/is/image/Vans/VN000CTM_J92_HERO)
Wanna share that I tried on Rowan 2s and boy is that toebox narrow! Had to try a 12 when I'm normally an 11 or 11.5 in most Vans. Even in a 12 where length started to be too much, the width still wasn't wide enough. Anyone else have the same experience?
Also, if you have bunions or pronounced big toe bones, these aren't built to be as forgiving up there as Crocketts, Rowan 1s, KWalks, Sk8 Hi, and even AVEs (surprisingly) are. Which I've all skated with minimal issues with their toeboxes. Not sure how anyone can say the Rowan 2 is wide, when it doesn't feel or look like it.
The sole does feel like one of the better attempts at a cupsole in recent years, and not a glorified vulc via waffle cup. I know they'll work for some people though!
Wanna share that I tried on Rowan 2s and boy is that toebox narrow! Had to try a 12 when I'm normally an 11 or 11.5 in most Vans. Even in a 12 where length started to be too much, the width still wasn't wide enough. Anyone else have the same experience?
Also, if you have bunions or pronounced big toe bones, these aren't built to be as forgiving up there as Crocketts, Rowan 1s, KWalks, Sk8 Hi, and even AVEs (surprisingly) are. Which I've all skated with minimal issues with their toeboxes. Not sure how anyone can say the Rowan 2 is wide, when it doesn't feel or look like it.
Expand QuoteWanna share that I tried on Rowan 2s and boy is that toebox narrow! Had to try a 12 when I'm normally an 11 or 11.5 in most Vans. Even in a 12 where length started to be too much, the width still wasn't wide enough. Anyone else have the same experience?
Also, if you have bunions or pronounced big toe bones, these aren't built to be as forgiving up there as Crocketts, Rowan 1s, KWalks, Sk8 Hi, and even AVEs (surprisingly) are. Which I've all skated with minimal issues with their toeboxes. Not sure how anyone can say the Rowan 2 is wide, when it doesn't feel or look like it.[close]
FWIW I've got narrow feet with some bigass toes, and I've found the AVEs to be one of the best shoes for my oddly shaped foot.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteWanna share that I tried on Rowan 2s and boy is that toebox narrow! Had to try a 12 when I'm normally an 11 or 11.5 in most Vans. Even in a 12 where length started to be too much, the width still wasn't wide enough. Anyone else have the same experience?
Also, if you have bunions or pronounced big toe bones, these aren't built to be as forgiving up there as Crocketts, Rowan 1s, KWalks, Sk8 Hi, and even AVEs (surprisingly) are. Which I've all skated with minimal issues with their toeboxes. Not sure how anyone can say the Rowan 2 is wide, when it doesn't feel or look like it.[close]
FWIW I've got narrow feet with some bigass toes, and I've found the AVEs to be one of the best shoes for my oddly shaped foot.[close]
I do kinda miss my AVEs. They were better than I realized when I had them. The mesh was too ubiquitous so I sold/ditched the ones I owned early and moved on to other shoes.
Wonder if the new AVE will redeem those mesh issues and fit well in the toe box like his previous one.
Stoked they worked for you! You still holding on to any pairs as they're phased(phasing?) out now
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteWanna share that I tried on Rowan 2s and boy is that toebox narrow! Had to try a 12 when I'm normally an 11 or 11.5 in most Vans. Even in a 12 where length started to be too much, the width still wasn't wide enough. Anyone else have the same experience?
Also, if you have bunions or pronounced big toe bones, these aren't built to be as forgiving up there as Crocketts, Rowan 1s, KWalks, Sk8 Hi, and even AVEs (surprisingly) are. Which I've all skated with minimal issues with their toeboxes. Not sure how anyone can say the Rowan 2 is wide, when it doesn't feel or look like it.[close]
FWIW I've got narrow feet with some bigass toes, and I've found the AVEs to be one of the best shoes for my oddly shaped foot.[close]
I do kinda miss my AVEs. They were better than I realized when I had them. The mesh was too ubiquitous so I sold/ditched the ones I owned early and moved on to other shoes.
Wonder if the new AVE will redeem those mesh issues and fit well in the toe box like his previous one.
Stoked they worked for you! You still holding on to any pairs as they're phased(phasing?) out now[close]
haha yup. Got three or four pairs in the basement, including two Beatrice. I almost bought more when I saw that a new AVE was coming, but I've prohibited myself from acquiring more skate gear.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteWanna share that I tried on Rowan 2s and boy is that toebox narrow! Had to try a 12 when I'm normally an 11 or 11.5 in most Vans. Even in a 12 where length started to be too much, the width still wasn't wide enough. Anyone else have the same experience?
Also, if you have bunions or pronounced big toe bones, these aren't built to be as forgiving up there as Crocketts, Rowan 1s, KWalks, Sk8 Hi, and even AVEs (surprisingly) are. Which I've all skated with minimal issues with their toeboxes. Not sure how anyone can say the Rowan 2 is wide, when it doesn't feel or look like it.[close]
FWIW I've got narrow feet with some bigass toes, and I've found the AVEs to be one of the best shoes for my oddly shaped foot.[close]
I do kinda miss my AVEs. They were better than I realized when I had them. The mesh was too ubiquitous so I sold/ditched the ones I owned early and moved on to other shoes.
Wonder if the new AVE will redeem those mesh issues and fit well in the toe box like his previous one.
Stoked they worked for you! You still holding on to any pairs as they're phased(phasing?) out now[close]
haha yup. Got three or four pairs in the basement, including two Beatrice. I almost bought more when I saw that a new AVE was coming, but I've prohibited myself from acquiring more skate gear.[close]
Sweet! May they last you as long as possible until the nest AVE is out and is affordable tobuy a!
In other Vans news, I checked out those Speed LS models that we saw photos of awhile back. They're in Vans stores now. Regular line and not SKATE sooo none of the tech, but they don't look terrible. That brown color is probably the best of the three.
However, they have the same sole as the SKATE Fairlane. I have never had the SKATE Fairlane, so I can't compare if the Speed LS sole is the exact same durometer or not. Though, they look identical.
The Speed LS has a real soft feel to the rubber, spongey and squishy under your feet. Good board feel probably but I don't know how durable or protective that sole is based on what I felt. Maybe the SKATE version of that sole is firmer + more supportive with the pop cush on the Fairlane?
Anyone in here had the SKATE Fairlane of recent years and can weigh in on how it feels?
Honestly considering buying these to fill that 90s cupsole-shaped hole in my heart. How do they feel versus other shoes, like the rap/accel or any of the other retros we've had lately?Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteWanna share that I tried on Rowan 2s and boy is that toebox narrow! Had to try a 12 when I'm normally an 11 or 11.5 in most Vans. Even in a 12 where length started to be too much, the width still wasn't wide enough. Anyone else have the same experience?
Also, if you have bunions or pronounced big toe bones, these aren't built to be as forgiving up there as Crocketts, Rowan 1s, KWalks, Sk8 Hi, and even AVEs (surprisingly) are. Which I've all skated with minimal issues with their toeboxes. Not sure how anyone can say the Rowan 2 is wide, when it doesn't feel or look like it.[close]
FWIW I've got narrow feet with some bigass toes, and I've found the AVEs to be one of the best shoes for my oddly shaped foot.[close]
I do kinda miss my AVEs. They were better than I realized when I had them. The mesh was too ubiquitous so I sold/ditched the ones I owned early and moved on to other shoes.
Wonder if the new AVE will redeem those mesh issues and fit well in the toe box like his previous one.
Stoked they worked for you! You still holding on to any pairs as they're phased(phasing?) out now[close]
haha yup. Got three or four pairs in the basement, including two Beatrice. I almost bought more when I saw that a new AVE was coming, but I've prohibited myself from acquiring more skate gear.[close]
Sweet! May they last you as long as possible until the nest AVE is out and is affordable tobuy a!
In other Vans news, I checked out those Speed LS models that we saw photos of awhile back. They're in Vans stores now. Regular line and not SKATE sooo none of the tech, but they don't look terrible. That brown color is probably the best of the three.
However, they have the same sole as the SKATE Fairlane. I have never had the SKATE Fairlane, so I can't compare if the Speed LS sole is the exact same durometer or not. Though, they look identical.
The Speed LS has a real soft feel to the rubber, spongey and squishy under your feet. Good board feel probably but I don't know how durable or protective that sole is based on what I felt. Maybe the SKATE version of that sole is firmer + more supportive with the pop cush on the Fairlane?
Anyone in here had the SKATE Fairlane of recent years and can weigh in on how it feels?
Honestly considering buying these to fill that 90s cupsole-shaped hole in my heart. How do they feel versus other shoes, like the rap/accel or any of the other retros we've had lately?Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteWanna share that I tried on Rowan 2s and boy is that toebox narrow! Had to try a 12 when I'm normally an 11 or 11.5 in most Vans. Even in a 12 where length started to be too much, the width still wasn't wide enough. Anyone else have the same experience?
Also, if you have bunions or pronounced big toe bones, these aren't built to be as forgiving up there as Crocketts, Rowan 1s, KWalks, Sk8 Hi, and even AVEs (surprisingly) are. Which I've all skated with minimal issues with their toeboxes. Not sure how anyone can say the Rowan 2 is wide, when it doesn't feel or look like it.[close]
FWIW I've got narrow feet with some bigass toes, and I've found the AVEs to be one of the best shoes for my oddly shaped foot.[close]
I do kinda miss my AVEs. They were better than I realized when I had them. The mesh was too ubiquitous so I sold/ditched the ones I owned early and moved on to other shoes.
Wonder if the new AVE will redeem those mesh issues and fit well in the toe box like his previous one.
Stoked they worked for you! You still holding on to any pairs as they're phased(phasing?) out now[close]
haha yup. Got three or four pairs in the basement, including two Beatrice. I almost bought more when I saw that a new AVE was coming, but I've prohibited myself from acquiring more skate gear.[close]
Sweet! May they last you as long as possible until the nest AVE is out and is affordable tobuy a!
In other Vans news, I checked out those Speed LS models that we saw photos of awhile back. They're in Vans stores now. Regular line and not SKATE sooo none of the tech, but they don't look terrible. That brown color is probably the best of the three.
However, they have the same sole as the SKATE Fairlane. I have never had the SKATE Fairlane, so I can't compare if the Speed LS sole is the exact same durometer or not. Though, they look identical.
The Speed LS has a real soft feel to the rubber, spongey and squishy under your feet. Good board feel probably but I don't know how durable or protective that sole is based on what I felt. Maybe the SKATE version of that sole is firmer + more supportive with the pop cush on the Fairlane?
Anyone in here had the SKATE Fairlane of recent years and can weigh in on how it feels?[close]
I finally starting wearing my pair of the Paradoxxx that I had on ice since 2019 lol. I've been walking to and from work to break in the cupsole. It's been well over 15 years since I last wore a cupsole, but this one is feeling good. Gonna start skating them this week and I'm really excited to try them. It's such a nice looking shoe, simple silhouette and nice lines wit the stitching, not techy, the old school Vans logo. It's a damn shame Vans let this one go, because it's one of their best designs in the last decade IMO.
There is another shoe in the same position that seems to be coming out soon called the “Hylane”. Found these pictures of them onlineExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteWanna share that I tried on Rowan 2s and boy is that toebox narrow! Had to try a 12 when I'm normally an 11 or 11.5 in most Vans. Even in a 12 where length started to be too much, the width still wasn't wide enough. Anyone else have the same experience?
Also, if you have bunions or pronounced big toe bones, these aren't built to be as forgiving up there as Crocketts, Rowan 1s, KWalks, Sk8 Hi, and even AVEs (surprisingly) are. Which I've all skated with minimal issues with their toeboxes. Not sure how anyone can say the Rowan 2 is wide, when it doesn't feel or look like it.[close]
FWIW I've got narrow feet with some bigass toes, and I've found the AVEs to be one of the best shoes for my oddly shaped foot.[close]
I do kinda miss my AVEs. They were better than I realized when I had them. The mesh was too ubiquitous so I sold/ditched the ones I owned early and moved on to other shoes.
Wonder if the new AVE will redeem those mesh issues and fit well in the toe box like his previous one.
Stoked they worked for you! You still holding on to any pairs as they're phased(phasing?) out now[close]
haha yup. Got three or four pairs in the basement, including two Beatrice. I almost bought more when I saw that a new AVE was coming, but I've prohibited myself from acquiring more skate gear.[close]
Sweet! May they last you as long as possible until the nest AVE is out and is affordable to buy!
In other Vans news, I checked out those Speed LS models that we saw photos of awhile back. They're in Vans stores now. Regular line and not SKATE sooo none of the tech, but they don't look terrible. That brown color is probably the best of the three.
However, they have the same sole as the SKATE Fairlane. I have never had the SKATE Fairlane, so I can't compare if the Speed LS sole is the exact same durometer or not. Though, they look identical.
The Speed LS has a real soft feel to the rubber, spongey and squishy under your feet. Good board feel probably but I don't know how durable or protective that sole is based on what I felt. Maybe the SKATE version of that sole is firmer + more supportive with the pop cush on the Fairlane?
Anyone in here had the SKATE Fairlane of recent years and can weigh in on how it feels?
Looking like a Fairlaine with a second sole glued on^
“ For those that aren’t aware the Safe Low is a new vulcanized skate shoe initially designed in partnership with Palace. The shoe was inspired by our iconic skate silhouettes of the Half Cab and MC 96’”
(https://i.ibb.co/ZfbPG8L/IMG-5974.png) (https://ibb.co/ZfbPG8L)
Beatrice was skating the new AVE’s on her story. I forgot to screenshot and it’s already expired. No up close pics it was just her skating that Vans park in NY.
What's the MSRP? Also, popcush or something else?Expand QuoteBeatrice was skating the new AVE’s on her story. I forgot to screenshot and it’s already expired. No up close pics it was just her skating that Vans park in NY.[close]
We got them in a couple of weeks ago, would have pulled the trigger on some but they’re just too expensive. The black ones look the better of the two, as the vans stripe is just a glorified sticker it looks cheap on the white ones.
Not sure if I like them or not.
Fit true to size for me as well.
What's the MSRP? Also, popcush or something else?Expand QuoteExpand QuoteBeatrice was skating the new AVE’s on her story. I forgot to screenshot and it’s already expired. No up close pics it was just her skating that Vans park in NY.[close]
We got them in a couple of weeks ago, would have pulled the trigger on some but they’re just too expensive. The black ones look the better of the two, as the vans stripe is just a glorified sticker it looks cheap on the white ones.
Not sure if I like them or not.
Fit true to size for me as well.[close]
Good god, they're going to get killed with this. This is the most expensive Vans skate shoe out, right?Expand QuoteWhat's the MSRP? Also, popcush or something else?Expand QuoteExpand QuoteBeatrice was skating the new AVE’s on her story. I forgot to screenshot and it’s already expired. No up close pics it was just her skating that Vans park in NY.[close]
We got them in a couple of weeks ago, would have pulled the trigger on some but they’re just too expensive. The black ones look the better of the two, as the vans stripe is just a glorified sticker it looks cheap on the white ones.
Not sure if I like them or not.
Fit true to size for me as well.[close][close]
Not popcush, it’s ’ultimate Waffle’
Retail is like $130-140
Bluetile posted a video with some dark red chukkas that look very nice
My apologies for not embedding but most of you would know where to find it
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These are the finished product 😬Expand Quote(https://i.ibb.co/yB1sjpn/VANS01399-01.jpg) (https://ibb.co/yB1sjpn)photo whatsapp download (https://imgbb.com/)(https://i.ibb.co/wQgFhbM/VANS01400-01.jpg) (https://ibb.co/wQgFhbM)[close]
These are some samples from a year ago and they were surprisingly good. The shoe has been updated since then. I don't believe these are the finished product that comes out in a few weeks.
The AVE shoes confuse me. Why do they do this shoe for him all crazy tech but never did something like that for the boss? Also at what point did they decide to make AVEs shoes the most techy wild looking vans out there?
The AVE shoes confuse me. Why do they do this shoe for him all crazy tech but never did something like that for the boss?
These are the finished product 😬Expand QuoteExpand Quote(https://i.ibb.co/yB1sjpn/VANS01399-01.jpg) (https://ibb.co/yB1sjpn)photo whatsapp download (https://imgbb.com/)(https://i.ibb.co/wQgFhbM/VANS01400-01.jpg) (https://ibb.co/wQgFhbM)[close]
These are some samples from a year ago and they were surprisingly good. The shoe has been updated since then. I don't believe these are the finished product that comes out in a few weeks.[close]
those are hilariousWhat is more hilarious is people still spending money on Vans
What is more hilarious is people still spending money on VansExpand Quotethose are hilarious[close]
It's no wonder Vans is having a tough time..
(https://i.ibb.co/FBGByWC/Screenshot-2024-03-07-151327.png) (https://ibb.co/FBGByWC)
Expand Quote
It's no wonder Vans is having a tough time..
(https://i.ibb.co/FBGByWC/Screenshot-2024-03-07-151327.png) (https://ibb.co/FBGByWC)[close]
that shoe makes their tough time way less tough
it sells like hot cakes
They really should just focus on doing interesting colorways and materials on the classics. All these tech vans are awful.
Things could be looking up over at Vans. Atiba is the new Brand Curator
https://www.instagram.com/p/C4tO9gAgjQr/?igsh=a3djZXhhcmxlb3k5
Say no to puffy Vans. The Knu Skool and Fairlane should have stayed in/and died along with the 90s.
Ave 2 is fucking worse that aanyone could imagine
https://www.instagram.com/stories/ave/3323775593593314354?utm_source=ig_story_item_share&igsh=OGg0eWx4eXltdDNq
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gr9WWe5rM2U
that yellow sole :-\
Anyone else seeing the banner add with Cab for remind insoles?
Hey What about the pop cush ??
The Knu Skool (less solid, but a puffy old skool is a good idea) and Fairlane are solid models, as long as they're not in gross, weird colors.
AVE 2.0 - wtf is that thing? Experimental technology is good but not when you butcher it like that! First AVE had the right idea with tech meets boardfeel in a cup.
I keep getting these on my IG ads. It's a girls shoe.
https://images.vans.com/is/image/Vans/VN000CTN_BP6_HERO?wid=1600&hei=1984&fmt=jpeg&qlt=90&resMode=sharp2&op_usm=0.9,1.7,8,0 (https://images.vans.com/is/image/Vans/VN000CTN_BP6_HERO?wid=1600&hei=1984&fmt=jpeg&qlt=90&resMode=sharp2&op_usm=0.9,1.7,8,0)
Expand QuoteThe Knu Skool (less solid, but a puffy old skool is a good idea) and Fairlane are solid models, as long as they're not in gross, weird colors.
AVE 2.0 - wtf is that thing? Experimental technology is good but not when you butcher it like that! First AVE had the right idea with tech meets boardfeel in a cup.[close]
I wore a pair of the reissued Fairlane's as my work shoes last year. Super comfortable, and walking 11 miles a day on sidewalks they lasted me 8 months. Really solid shoe that I wish they would have kept in production. They even had an all black leather colorway which was perfect for me being a mail carrier
As for the AVE 2, I really wish they would go back to more simplistic designs with his shoes. It's just a weird choice for the Dickies and plain white tshirt guy to have the most outlandish looking shoe in the lineup. I get that he's an aging skater and needs a more protective shoe, but it would make more sense if they took the Nike Koston 1 approach, where the tech aspects are on the inside of a simple looking silhouette. Or just release a cupsole AVE Rapidweld and call it a day
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteThe Knu Skool (less solid, but a puffy old skool is a good idea) and Fairlane are solid models, as long as they're not in gross, weird colors.
AVE 2.0 - wtf is that thing? Experimental technology is good but not when you butcher it like that! First AVE had the right idea with tech meets boardfeel in a cup.[close]
I wore a pair of the reissued Fairlane's as my work shoes last year. Super comfortable, and walking 11 miles a day on sidewalks they lasted me 8 months. Really solid shoe that I wish they would have kept in production. They even had an all black leather colorway which was perfect for me being a mail carrier
As for the AVE 2, I really wish they would go back to more simplistic designs with his shoes. It's just a weird choice for the Dickies and plain white tshirt guy to have the most outlandish looking shoe in the lineup. I get that he's an aging skater and needs a more protective shoe, but it would make more sense if they took the Nike Koston 1 approach, where the tech aspects are on the inside of a simple looking silhouette. Or just release a cupsole AVE Rapidweld and call it a day[close]
That would be true except he doesn't wear these shoes once the initial marketing push is over.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteThe Knu Skool (less solid, but a puffy old skool is a good idea) and Fairlane are solid models, as long as they're not in gross, weird colors.
AVE 2.0 - wtf is that thing? Experimental technology is good but not when you butcher it like that! First AVE had the right idea with tech meets boardfeel in a cup.[close]
I wore a pair of the reissued Fairlane's as my work shoes last year. Super comfortable, and walking 11 miles a day on sidewalks they lasted me 8 months. Really solid shoe that I wish they would have kept in production. They even had an all black leather colorway which was perfect for me being a mail carrier
As for the AVE 2, I really wish they would go back to more simplistic designs with his shoes. It's just a weird choice for the Dickies and plain white tshirt guy to have the most outlandish looking shoe in the lineup. I get that he's an aging skater and needs a more protective shoe, but it would make more sense if they took the Nike Koston 1 approach, where the tech aspects are on the inside of a simple looking silhouette. Or just release a cupsole AVE Rapidweld and call it a day[close]
That would be true except he doesn't wear these shoes once the initial marketing push is over.[close]
This was the same problem with Elijah's shoe -- they pushed this new Wafflecup tech on us through him and all he skates are vulcs. Might as well made him a vulc shoe.
If they want to push Wafflecup tech with a skater, they need to push Glick more. Dude is always wearing the Zahba mids and likes the cupsole.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteThe Knu Skool (less solid, but a puffy old skool is a good idea) and Fairlane are solid models, as long as they're not in gross, weird colors.
AVE 2.0 - wtf is that thing? Experimental technology is good but not when you butcher it like that! First AVE had the right idea with tech meets boardfeel in a cup.[close]
I wore a pair of the reissued Fairlane's as my work shoes last year. Super comfortable, and walking 11 miles a day on sidewalks they lasted me 8 months. Really solid shoe that I wish they would have kept in production. They even had an all black leather colorway which was perfect for me being a mail carrier
As for the AVE 2, I really wish they would go back to more simplistic designs with his shoes. It's just a weird choice for the Dickies and plain white tshirt guy to have the most outlandish looking shoe in the lineup. I get that he's an aging skater and needs a more protective shoe, but it would make more sense if they took the Nike Koston 1 approach, where the tech aspects are on the inside of a simple looking silhouette. Or just release a cupsole AVE Rapidweld and call it a day[close]
That would be true except he doesn't wear these shoes once the initial marketing push is over.[close]
This was the same problem with Elijah's shoe -- they pushed this new Wafflecup tech on us through him and all he skates are vulcs. Might as well made him a vulc shoe.
If they want to push Wafflecup tech with a skater, they need to push Glick more. Dude is always wearing the Zahba mids and likes the cupsole.[close]
I always respect how much footage Rowan has wearing his own model shoes
If those AVE 2s didn’t have that sock/knit thing or ugly mismatched yellow foam on full display, they’d be aight.
Perhaps a better color way could change some hearts and minds.
This shit happens so much and I have no idea why. TNT had two different TNT 3s. Ave already had a shoe called the ave 3. Even without the all the classics it would be the ave 6 at my best count. (Ave 2,3,6, rapidweld, last new one, this one)Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteThe Knu Skool (less solid, but a puffy old skool is a good idea) and Fairlane are solid models, as long as they're not in gross, weird colors.
AVE 2.0 - wtf is that thing? Experimental technology is good but not when you butcher it like that! First AVE had the right idea with tech meets boardfeel in a cup.[close]
I wore a pair of the reissued Fairlane's as my work shoes last year. Super comfortable, and walking 11 miles a day on sidewalks they lasted me 8 months. Really solid shoe that I wish they would have kept in production. They even had an all black leather colorway which was perfect for me being a mail carrier
As for the AVE 2, I really wish they would go back to more simplistic designs with his shoes. It's just a weird choice for the Dickies and plain white tshirt guy to have the most outlandish looking shoe in the lineup. I get that he's an aging skater and needs a more protective shoe, but it would make more sense if they took the Nike Koston 1 approach, where the tech aspects are on the inside of a simple looking silhouette. Or just release a cupsole AVE Rapidweld and call it a day[close]
That would be true except he doesn't wear these shoes once the initial marketing push is over.[close]
This was the same problem with Elijah's shoe -- they pushed this new Wafflecup tech on us through him and all he skates are vulcs. Might as well made him a vulc shoe.
If they want to push Wafflecup tech with a skater, they need to push Glick more. Dude is always wearing the Zahba mids and likes the cupsole.[close]
I always respect how much footage Rowan has wearing his own model shoes[close]
I think it comes down to Rowan designing the shoe he wanted and Elijah not doing so.
What I find weird about the new AVE is ad copy calling it his 3rd pro model. I guess they’re retconning all those enhanced classic models out of their history, bc there was def a AV6
This shit happens so much and I have no idea why. TNT had two different TNT 3s. Ave already had a shoe called the ave 3. Even without the all the classics it would be the ave 6 at my best count. (Ave 2,3,6, rapidweld, last new one, this one)Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteThe Knu Skool (less solid, but a puffy old skool is a good idea) and Fairlane are solid models, as long as they're not in gross, weird colors.
AVE 2.0 - wtf is that thing? Experimental technology is good but not when you butcher it like that! First AVE had the right idea with tech meets boardfeel in a cup.[close]
I wore a pair of the reissued Fairlane's as my work shoes last year. Super comfortable, and walking 11 miles a day on sidewalks they lasted me 8 months. Really solid shoe that I wish they would have kept in production. They even had an all black leather colorway which was perfect for me being a mail carrier
As for the AVE 2, I really wish they would go back to more simplistic designs with his shoes. It's just a weird choice for the Dickies and plain white tshirt guy to have the most outlandish looking shoe in the lineup. I get that he's an aging skater and needs a more protective shoe, but it would make more sense if they took the Nike Koston 1 approach, where the tech aspects are on the inside of a simple looking silhouette. Or just release a cupsole AVE Rapidweld and call it a day[close]
That would be true except he doesn't wear these shoes once the initial marketing push is over.[close]
This was the same problem with Elijah's shoe -- they pushed this new Wafflecup tech on us through him and all he skates are vulcs. Might as well made him a vulc shoe.
If they want to push Wafflecup tech with a skater, they need to push Glick more. Dude is always wearing the Zahba mids and likes the cupsole.[close]
I always respect how much footage Rowan has wearing his own model shoes[close]
I think it comes down to Rowan designing the shoe he wanted and Elijah not doing so.
What I find weird about the new AVE is ad copy calling it his 3rd pro model. I guess they’re retconning all those enhanced classic models out of their history, bc there was def a AV6[close]
(https://i.ibb.co/BjkbtK2/IMG-2960.jpg) (https://ibb.co/BjkbtK2)Expand QuoteThis shit happens so much and I have no idea why. TNT had two different TNT 3s. Ave already had a shoe called the ave 3. Even without the all the classics it would be the ave 6 at my best count. (Ave 2,3,6, rapidweld, last new one, this one)Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteThe Knu Skool (less solid, but a puffy old skool is a good idea) and Fairlane are solid models, as long as they're not in gross, weird colors.
AVE 2.0 - wtf is that thing? Experimental technology is good but not when you butcher it like that! First AVE had the right idea with tech meets boardfeel in a cup.[close]
I wore a pair of the reissued Fairlane's as my work shoes last year. Super comfortable, and walking 11 miles a day on sidewalks they lasted me 8 months. Really solid shoe that I wish they would have kept in production. They even had an all black leather colorway which was perfect for me being a mail carrier
As for the AVE 2, I really wish they would go back to more simplistic designs with his shoes. It's just a weird choice for the Dickies and plain white tshirt guy to have the most outlandish looking shoe in the lineup. I get that he's an aging skater and needs a more protective shoe, but it would make more sense if they took the Nike Koston 1 approach, where the tech aspects are on the inside of a simple looking silhouette. Or just release a cupsole AVE Rapidweld and call it a day[close]
That would be true except he doesn't wear these shoes once the initial marketing push is over.[close]
This was the same problem with Elijah's shoe -- they pushed this new Wafflecup tech on us through him and all he skates are vulcs. Might as well made him a vulc shoe.
If they want to push Wafflecup tech with a skater, they need to push Glick more. Dude is always wearing the Zahba mids and likes the cupsole.[close]
I always respect how much footage Rowan has wearing his own model shoes[close]
I think it comes down to Rowan designing the shoe he wanted and Elijah not doing so.
What I find weird about the new AVE is ad copy calling it his 3rd pro model. I guess they’re retconning all those enhanced classic models out of their history, bc there was def a AV6[close][close]
I liked the one that looked like an Era that got stung by a bee.
(https://i.ibb.co/BjkbtK2/IMG-2960.jpg) (https://ibb.co/BjkbtK2)Expand QuoteExpand QuoteThis shit happens so much and I have no idea why. TNT had two different TNT 3s. Ave already had a shoe called the ave 3. Even without the all the classics it would be the ave 6 at my best count. (Ave 2,3,6, rapidweld, last new one, this one)Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteThe Knu Skool (less solid, but a puffy old skool is a good idea) and Fairlane are solid models, as long as they're not in gross, weird colors.
AVE 2.0 - wtf is that thing? Experimental technology is good but not when you butcher it like that! First AVE had the right idea with tech meets boardfeel in a cup.[close]
I wore a pair of the reissued Fairlane's as my work shoes last year. Super comfortable, and walking 11 miles a day on sidewalks they lasted me 8 months. Really solid shoe that I wish they would have kept in production. They even had an all black leather colorway which was perfect for me being a mail carrier
As for the AVE 2, I really wish they would go back to more simplistic designs with his shoes. It's just a weird choice for the Dickies and plain white tshirt guy to have the most outlandish looking shoe in the lineup. I get that he's an aging skater and needs a more protective shoe, but it would make more sense if they took the Nike Koston 1 approach, where the tech aspects are on the inside of a simple looking silhouette. Or just release a cupsole AVE Rapidweld and call it a day[close]
That would be true except he doesn't wear these shoes once the initial marketing push is over.[close]
This was the same problem with Elijah's shoe -- they pushed this new Wafflecup tech on us through him and all he skates are vulcs. Might as well made him a vulc shoe.
If they want to push Wafflecup tech with a skater, they need to push Glick more. Dude is always wearing the Zahba mids and likes the cupsole.[close]
I always respect how much footage Rowan has wearing his own model shoes[close]
I think it comes down to Rowan designing the shoe he wanted and Elijah not doing so.
What I find weird about the new AVE is ad copy calling it his 3rd pro model. I guess they’re retconning all those enhanced classic models out of their history, bc there was def a AV6[close][close]
I liked the one that looked like an Era that got stung by a bee.[close]
Yep, AV6. I wanted those so bad, but when I tried them on there was enough room for another set of toes on top of my toes in the shoe. Bummed me out.
*edit
Oops, I think you meant these; AVEra 1.5
(https://i.ibb.co/9tLnDkY/IMG-2961.jpg) (https://ibb.co/9tLnDkY)
(https://i.ibb.co/BjkbtK2/IMG-2960.jpg) (https://ibb.co/BjkbtK2)Expand QuoteExpand QuoteThis shit happens so much and I have no idea why. TNT had two different TNT 3s. Ave already had a shoe called the ave 3. Even without the all the classics it would be the ave 6 at my best count. (Ave 2,3,6, rapidweld, last new one, this one)Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteThe Knu Skool (less solid, but a puffy old skool is a good idea) and Fairlane are solid models, as long as they're not in gross, weird colors.
AVE 2.0 - wtf is that thing? Experimental technology is good but not when you butcher it like that! First AVE had the right idea with tech meets boardfeel in a cup.[close]
I wore a pair of the reissued Fairlane's as my work shoes last year. Super comfortable, and walking 11 miles a day on sidewalks they lasted me 8 months. Really solid shoe that I wish they would have kept in production. They even had an all black leather colorway which was perfect for me being a mail carrier
As for the AVE 2, I really wish they would go back to more simplistic designs with his shoes. It's just a weird choice for the Dickies and plain white tshirt guy to have the most outlandish looking shoe in the lineup. I get that he's an aging skater and needs a more protective shoe, but it would make more sense if they took the Nike Koston 1 approach, where the tech aspects are on the inside of a simple looking silhouette. Or just release a cupsole AVE Rapidweld and call it a day[close]
That would be true except he doesn't wear these shoes once the initial marketing push is over.[close]
This was the same problem with Elijah's shoe -- they pushed this new Wafflecup tech on us through him and all he skates are vulcs. Might as well made him a vulc shoe.
If they want to push Wafflecup tech with a skater, they need to push Glick more. Dude is always wearing the Zahba mids and likes the cupsole.[close]
I always respect how much footage Rowan has wearing his own model shoes[close]
I think it comes down to Rowan designing the shoe he wanted and Elijah not doing so.
What I find weird about the new AVE is ad copy calling it his 3rd pro model. I guess they’re retconning all those enhanced classic models out of their history, bc there was def a AV6[close][close]
I liked the one that looked like an Era that got stung by a bee.[close]
Yep, AV6. I wanted those so bad, but when I tried them on there was enough room for another set of toes on top of my toes in the shoe. Bummed me out.
*edit
Oops, I think you meant these; AVEra 1.5
(https://i.ibb.co/9tLnDkY/IMG-2961.jpg) (https://ibb.co/9tLnDkY)
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteThe Knu Skool (less solid, but a puffy old skool is a good idea) and Fairlane are solid models, as long as they're not in gross, weird colors.
AVE 2.0 - wtf is that thing? Experimental technology is good but not when you butcher it like that! First AVE had the right idea with tech meets boardfeel in a cup.[close]
I wore a pair of the reissued Fairlane's as my work shoes last year. Super comfortable, and walking 11 miles a day on sidewalks they lasted me 8 months. Really solid shoe that I wish they would have kept in production. They even had an all black leather colorway which was perfect for me being a mail carrier
As for the AVE 2, I really wish they would go back to more simplistic designs with his shoes. It's just a weird choice for the Dickies and plain white tshirt guy to have the most outlandish looking shoe in the lineup. I get that he's an aging skater and needs a more protective shoe, but it would make more sense if they took the Nike Koston 1 approach, where the tech aspects are on the inside of a simple looking silhouette. Or just release a cupsole AVE Rapidweld and call it a day[close]
That would be true except he doesn't wear these shoes once the initial marketing push is over.[close]
This was the same problem with Elijah's shoe -- they pushed this new Wafflecup tech on us through him and all he skates are vulcs. Might as well made him a vulc shoe.
If they want to push Wafflecup tech with a skater, they need to push Glick more. Dude is always wearing the Zahba mids and likes the cupsole.[close]
I always respect how much footage Rowan has wearing his own model shoes
Busenitz seems to only skate in the Busenitz Vulcs not the Busenitz Pros.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteThe Knu Skool (less solid, but a puffy old skool is a good idea) and Fairlane are solid models, as long as they're not in gross, weird colors.
AVE 2.0 - wtf is that thing? Experimental technology is good but not when you butcher it like that! First AVE had the right idea with tech meets boardfeel in a cup.[close]
I wore a pair of the reissued Fairlane's as my work shoes last year. Super comfortable, and walking 11 miles a day on sidewalks they lasted me 8 months. Really solid shoe that I wish they would have kept in production. They even had an all black leather colorway which was perfect for me being a mail carrier
As for the AVE 2, I really wish they would go back to more simplistic designs with his shoes. It's just a weird choice for the Dickies and plain white tshirt guy to have the most outlandish looking shoe in the lineup. I get that he's an aging skater and needs a more protective shoe, but it would make more sense if they took the Nike Koston 1 approach, where the tech aspects are on the inside of a simple looking silhouette. Or just release a cupsole AVE Rapidweld and call it a day[close]
That would be true except he doesn't wear these shoes once the initial marketing push is over.[close]
This was the same problem with Elijah's shoe -- they pushed this new Wafflecup tech on us through him and all he skates are vulcs. Might as well made him a vulc shoe.
If they want to push Wafflecup tech with a skater, they need to push Glick more. Dude is always wearing the Zahba mids and likes the cupsole.[close]
I always respect how much footage Rowan has wearing his own model shoes[close]
Is it common for pros to not wear their own shoes? Decks I get...Nyjah, Ishod, Nora, Lizzie, Foy...list goes on, always in their own shoes.
Busenitz, Puig, Alexis, Louie, Jon Dickson, Leo are a few more that I can think of.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteThe Knu Skool (less solid, but a puffy old skool is a good idea) and Fairlane are solid models, as long as they're not in gross, weird colors.
AVE 2.0 - wtf is that thing? Experimental technology is good but not when you butcher it like that! First AVE had the right idea with tech meets boardfeel in a cup.[close]
I wore a pair of the reissued Fairlane's as my work shoes last year. Super comfortable, and walking 11 miles a day on sidewalks they lasted me 8 months. Really solid shoe that I wish they would have kept in production. They even had an all black leather colorway which was perfect for me being a mail carrier
As for the AVE 2, I really wish they would go back to more simplistic designs with his shoes. It's just a weird choice for the Dickies and plain white tshirt guy to have the most outlandish looking shoe in the lineup. I get that he's an aging skater and needs a more protective shoe, but it would make more sense if they took the Nike Koston 1 approach, where the tech aspects are on the inside of a simple looking silhouette. Or just release a cupsole AVE Rapidweld and call it a day[close]
That would be true except he doesn't wear these shoes once the initial marketing push is over.[close]
This was the same problem with Elijah's shoe -- they pushed this new Wafflecup tech on us through him and all he skates are vulcs. Might as well made him a vulc shoe.
If they want to push Wafflecup tech with a skater, they need to push Glick more. Dude is always wearing the Zahba mids and likes the cupsole.[close]
I always respect how much footage Rowan has wearing his own model shoes[close]
Is it common for pros to not wear their own shoes? Decks I get...Nyjah, Ishod, Nora, Lizzie, Foy...list goes on, always in their own shoes.
The first ave shoe was just the avera and it was a potato. Then they tweaked it a bit to be a little less puffy but mostly the same. The avera 1.5 was years later and not that puffy. Funny I dug out a pair of the ave sk8 lows recently (just checker board tho not cool print) and compared to modern vulcs they could be a pair of lebronsExpand Quote(https://i.ibb.co/BjkbtK2/IMG-2960.jpg) (https://ibb.co/BjkbtK2)Expand QuoteExpand QuoteThis shit happens so much and I have no idea why. TNT had two different TNT 3s. Ave already had a shoe called the ave 3. Even without the all the classics it would be the ave 6 at my best count. (Ave 2,3,6, rapidweld, last new one, this one)Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteThe Knu Skool (less solid, but a puffy old skool is a good idea) and Fairlane are solid models, as long as they're not in gross, weird colors.
AVE 2.0 - wtf is that thing? Experimental technology is good but not when you butcher it like that! First AVE had the right idea with tech meets boardfeel in a cup.[close]
I wore a pair of the reissued Fairlane's as my work shoes last year. Super comfortable, and walking 11 miles a day on sidewalks they lasted me 8 months. Really solid shoe that I wish they would have kept in production. They even had an all black leather colorway which was perfect for me being a mail carrier
As for the AVE 2, I really wish they would go back to more simplistic designs with his shoes. It's just a weird choice for the Dickies and plain white tshirt guy to have the most outlandish looking shoe in the lineup. I get that he's an aging skater and needs a more protective shoe, but it would make more sense if they took the Nike Koston 1 approach, where the tech aspects are on the inside of a simple looking silhouette. Or just release a cupsole AVE Rapidweld and call it a day[close]
That would be true except he doesn't wear these shoes once the initial marketing push is over.[close]
This was the same problem with Elijah's shoe -- they pushed this new Wafflecup tech on us through him and all he skates are vulcs. Might as well made him a vulc shoe.
If they want to push Wafflecup tech with a skater, they need to push Glick more. Dude is always wearing the Zahba mids and likes the cupsole.[close]
I always respect how much footage Rowan has wearing his own model shoes[close]
I think it comes down to Rowan designing the shoe he wanted and Elijah not doing so.
What I find weird about the new AVE is ad copy calling it his 3rd pro model. I guess they’re retconning all those enhanced classic models out of their history, bc there was def a AV6[close][close]
I liked the one that looked like an Era that got stung by a bee.[close]
Yep, AV6. I wanted those so bad, but when I tried them on there was enough room for another set of toes on top of my toes in the shoe. Bummed me out.
*edit
Oops, I think you meant these; AVEra 1.5
(https://i.ibb.co/9tLnDkY/IMG-2961.jpg) (https://ibb.co/9tLnDkY)[close]
Bingo, those AVEra 1.5s were the one I was thinking of. Lots of slim fit jeans going right into those puffy monstrosities at the park back in the day. I also had a set of the AVE Sk8 Lows with the snakeskin print - very funny, but foot destroyers for sure.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteThe Knu Skool (less solid, but a puffy old skool is a good idea) and Fairlane are solid models, as long as they're not in gross, weird colors.
AVE 2.0 - wtf is that thing? Experimental technology is good but not when you butcher it like that! First AVE had the right idea with tech meets boardfeel in a cup.[close]
I wore a pair of the reissued Fairlane's as my work shoes last year. Super comfortable, and walking 11 miles a day on sidewalks they lasted me 8 months. Really solid shoe that I wish they would have kept in production. They even had an all black leather colorway which was perfect for me being a mail carrier
As for the AVE 2, I really wish they would go back to more simplistic designs with his shoes. It's just a weird choice for the Dickies and plain white tshirt guy to have the most outlandish looking shoe in the lineup. I get that he's an aging skater and needs a more protective shoe, but it would make more sense if they took the Nike Koston 1 approach, where the tech aspects are on the inside of a simple looking silhouette. Or just release a cupsole AVE Rapidweld and call it a day[close]
That would be true except he doesn't wear these shoes once the initial marketing push is over.
Busenitz in the vulcs only has been new.
AVE had some footage in his early pro models for sure and the AV6. I loved his AV3 pro model but he never skated those.
Then the “AV4” and “AV5” were some weird mall shoes with weird names and not pushed by him or Vans in skate mags at all. They did the classic DC-style technique where they used words that’s started with “Ave-“ as names. I only remember seeing they were his pro models by reading their descriptions on the Vans website. I guess they wanted to give him some good checks? I can’t seem to find photos of those anywhere anymore but used to be able to. They were bad but not any worse than any other ones of those kinds of shoes. Kids would probably love them today tbh
Expand QuoteBusenitz in the vulcs only has been new.
AVE had some footage in his early pro models for sure and the AV6. I loved his AV3 pro model but he never skated those.
Then the “AV4” and “AV5” were some weird mall shoes with weird names and not pushed by him or Vans in skate mags at all. They did the classic DC-style technique where they used words that’s started with “Ave-“ as names. I only remember seeing they were his pro models by reading their descriptions on the Vans website. I guess they wanted to give him some good checks? I can’t seem to find photos of those anywhere anymore but used to be able to. They were bad but not any worse than any other ones of those kinds of shoes. Kids would probably love them today tbh[close]
I still have quite a few pairs of AVE shoes, but without going through the boxes, a few names come to mind that I have or had.
The Av5 or 6 as pic above - looked like an era with extra up top and a super high toe.
AV Sk8 low(first ones) in all black upper, although they came in a million different side print materials too, but these were my favourites for a long time.
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/194719773157
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/NrkAAOSwwC9h2gm~/s-l1600.jpg)
AV Native, sort of like the reissue Sk8 hi with the smaller side bit
https://sneakernews.com/2012/08/26/vans-av-native-american-low/
AVE Skate Classic, a super thin canvas shoe with rubber underlay, almost Authentic thin all over
https://www.ebay.com/itm/145262079186
I have more, but that will do.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteBusenitz in the vulcs only has been new.
AVE had some footage in his early pro models for sure and the AV6. I loved his AV3 pro model but he never skated those.
Then the “AV4” and “AV5” were some weird mall shoes with weird names and not pushed by him or Vans in skate mags at all. They did the classic DC-style technique where they used words that’s started with “Ave-“ as names. I only remember seeing they were his pro models by reading their descriptions on the Vans website. I guess they wanted to give him some good checks? I can’t seem to find photos of those anywhere anymore but used to be able to. They were bad but not any worse than any other ones of those kinds of shoes. Kids would probably love them today tbh[close]
I still have quite a few pairs of AVE shoes, but without going through the boxes, a few names come to mind that I have or had.
The Av5 or 6 as pic above - looked like an era with extra up top and a super high toe.
AV Sk8 low(first ones) in all black upper, although they came in a million different side print materials too, but these were my favourites for a long time.
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/194719773157
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/NrkAAOSwwC9h2gm~/s-l1600.jpg)
AV Native, sort of like the reissue Sk8 hi with the smaller side bit
https://sneakernews.com/2012/08/26/vans-av-native-american-low/
AVE Skate Classic, a super thin canvas shoe with rubber underlay, almost Authentic thin all over
https://www.ebay.com/itm/145262079186
I have more, but that will do.[close]
The burgundy/white, navy/white and black/white for me; many, many pairs.
Wish the latest ones still came with no stripe…
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteBusenitz in the vulcs only has been new.
AVE had some footage in his early pro models for sure and the AV6. I loved his AV3 pro model but he never skated those.
Then the “AV4” and “AV5” were some weird mall shoes with weird names and not pushed by him or Vans in skate mags at all. They did the classic DC-style technique where they used words that’s started with “Ave-“ as names. I only remember seeing they were his pro models by reading their descriptions on the Vans website. I guess they wanted to give him some good checks? I can’t seem to find photos of those anywhere anymore but used to be able to. They were bad but not any worse than any other ones of those kinds of shoes. Kids would probably love them today tbh[close]
I still have quite a few pairs of AVE shoes, but without going through the boxes, a few names come to mind that I have or had.
The Av5 or 6 as pic above - looked like an era with extra up top and a super high toe.
AV Sk8 low(first ones) in all black upper, although they came in a million different side print materials too, but these were my favourites for a long time.
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/194719773157
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/NrkAAOSwwC9h2gm~/s-l1600.jpg)
AV Native, sort of like the reissue Sk8 hi with the smaller side bit
https://sneakernews.com/2012/08/26/vans-av-native-american-low/
AVE Skate Classic, a super thin canvas shoe with rubber underlay, almost Authentic thin all over
https://www.ebay.com/itm/145262079186
I have more, but that will do.[close]
The burgundy/white, navy/white and black/white for me; many, many pairs.
Wish the latest ones still came with no stripe…[close]
On most with the stripe I have taken to spray black out the side, change in black laces and it has a way more low key vibe.
Full black upper with the white vulc trim works for me right now. Do it to Sk8 low, Old Skool, etc.
Anyone ever fuck with the original AV3? I had like four pairs when they first came out. Kinda like Vans tried to do a sporty retro football shoe or a slight gazelle and actually pulled it off. Wish they would remake these
(https://i.ibb.co/v1DbYkv/F6-F17692-0717-4949-BDBA-334-F42-CAD4-D5.jpg) (https://ibb.co/zsN1JZH)
(https://i.ibb.co/ZfRscNQ/B379-F5-B3-D5-DE-4-FF0-AD8-C-63-A7-BFB5-B1-ED.webp) (https://imgbb.com/)
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On most with the stripe I have taken to spray black out the side, change in black laces and it has a way more low key vibe.
Full black upper with the white vulc trim works for me right now. Do it to Sk8 low, Old Skool, etc.[close]
They had a dark navy Old Skool colorway just like you're describing and it's still my favorite to this day
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On most with the stripe I have taken to spray black out the side, change in black laces and it has a way more low key vibe.
Full black upper with the white vulc trim works for me right now. Do it to Sk8 low, Old Skool, etc.[close]
They had a dark navy Old Skool colorway just like you're describing and it's still my favorite to this day[close]
Yeah they do some from time to time, more special colour ways or whatever than a normal stock shoe.
The one that I was pretty stoked on was the Vans SOTY colab, all black suede old skool for Cardiel and I still have them too.
This pic came up from a google search, but I have black laces and took off the print on the side heel just to keep them plain.
* Sorry for turning this into a "vintage" Vans models thread today
(https://static.mercdn.net/item/detail/orig/photos/m87702950355_1.jpg)
Tyshawn always wears his shoes too.Busenitz, Puig, Alexis, Louie, Jon Dickson, Leo are a few more that I can think of.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteThe Knu Skool (less solid, but a puffy old skool is a good idea) and Fairlane are solid models, as long as they're not in gross, weird colors.
AVE 2.0 - wtf is that thing? Experimental technology is good but not when you butcher it like that! First AVE had the right idea with tech meets boardfeel in a cup.[close]
I wore a pair of the reissued Fairlane's as my work shoes last year. Super comfortable, and walking 11 miles a day on sidewalks they lasted me 8 months. Really solid shoe that I wish they would have kept in production. They even had an all black leather colorway which was perfect for me being a mail carrier
As for the AVE 2, I really wish they would go back to more simplistic designs with his shoes. It's just a weird choice for the Dickies and plain white tshirt guy to have the most outlandish looking shoe in the lineup. I get that he's an aging skater and needs a more protective shoe, but it would make more sense if they took the Nike Koston 1 approach, where the tech aspects are on the inside of a simple looking silhouette. Or just release a cupsole AVE Rapidweld and call it a day[close]
That would be true except he doesn't wear these shoes once the initial marketing push is over.[close]
This was the same problem with Elijah's shoe -- they pushed this new Wafflecup tech on us through him and all he skates are vulcs. Might as well made him a vulc shoe.
If they want to push Wafflecup tech with a skater, they need to push Glick more. Dude is always wearing the Zahba mids and likes the cupsole.[close]
I always respect how much footage Rowan has wearing his own model shoes[close]
Is it common for pros to not wear their own shoes? Decks I get...Nyjah, Ishod, Nora, Lizzie, Foy...list goes on, always in their own shoes.[close]
Tyshawn always wears his shoes too.Expand QuoteBusenitz, Puig, Alexis, Louie, Jon Dickson, Leo are a few more that I can think of.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteThe Knu Skool (less solid, but a puffy old skool is a good idea) and Fairlane are solid models, as long as they're not in gross, weird colors.
AVE 2.0 - wtf is that thing? Experimental technology is good but not when you butcher it like that! First AVE had the right idea with tech meets boardfeel in a cup.[close]
I wore a pair of the reissued Fairlane's as my work shoes last year. Super comfortable, and walking 11 miles a day on sidewalks they lasted me 8 months. Really solid shoe that I wish they would have kept in production. They even had an all black leather colorway which was perfect for me being a mail carrier
As for the AVE 2, I really wish they would go back to more simplistic designs with his shoes. It's just a weird choice for the Dickies and plain white tshirt guy to have the most outlandish looking shoe in the lineup. I get that he's an aging skater and needs a more protective shoe, but it would make more sense if they took the Nike Koston 1 approach, where the tech aspects are on the inside of a simple looking silhouette. Or just release a cupsole AVE Rapidweld and call it a day[close]
That would be true except he doesn't wear these shoes once the initial marketing push is over.[close]
This was the same problem with Elijah's shoe -- they pushed this new Wafflecup tech on us through him and all he skates are vulcs. Might as well made him a vulc shoe.
If they want to push Wafflecup tech with a skater, they need to push Glick more. Dude is always wearing the Zahba mids and likes the cupsole.[close]
I always respect how much footage Rowan has wearing his own model shoes[close]
Is it common for pros to not wear their own shoes? Decks I get...Nyjah, Ishod, Nora, Lizzie, Foy...list goes on, always in their own shoes.[close][close]
Tiago, Westgate, KnoxTyshawn always wears his shoes too.Expand QuoteBusenitz, Puig, Alexis, Louie, Jon Dickson, Leo are a few more that I can think of.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteThe Knu Skool (less solid, but a puffy old skool is a good idea) and Fairlane are solid models, as long as they're not in gross, weird colors.
AVE 2.0 - wtf is that thing? Experimental technology is good but not when you butcher it like that! First AVE had the right idea with tech meets boardfeel in a cup.[close]
I wore a pair of the reissued Fairlane's as my work shoes last year. Super comfortable, and walking 11 miles a day on sidewalks they lasted me 8 months. Really solid shoe that I wish they would have kept in production. They even had an all black leather colorway which was perfect for me being a mail carrier
As for the AVE 2, I really wish they would go back to more simplistic designs with his shoes. It's just a weird choice for the Dickies and plain white tshirt guy to have the most outlandish looking shoe in the lineup. I get that he's an aging skater and needs a more protective shoe, but it would make more sense if they took the Nike Koston 1 approach, where the tech aspects are on the inside of a simple looking silhouette. Or just release a cupsole AVE Rapidweld and call it a day[close]
That would be true except he doesn't wear these shoes once the initial marketing push is over.[close]
This was the same problem with Elijah's shoe -- they pushed this new Wafflecup tech on us through him and all he skates are vulcs. Might as well made him a vulc shoe.
If they want to push Wafflecup tech with a skater, they need to push Glick more. Dude is always wearing the Zahba mids and likes the cupsole.[close]
I always respect how much footage Rowan has wearing his own model shoes[close]
Is it common for pros to not wear their own shoes? Decks I get...Nyjah, Ishod, Nora, Lizzie, Foy...list goes on, always in their own shoes.[close][close]
Expand QuoteAnyone ever fuck with the original AV3? I had like four pairs when they first came out. Kinda like Vans tried to do a sporty retro football shoe or a slight gazelle and actually pulled it off. Wish they would remake these
(https://i.ibb.co/v1DbYkv/F6-F17692-0717-4949-BDBA-334-F42-CAD4-D5.jpg) (https://ibb.co/zsN1JZH)
(https://i.ibb.co/ZfRscNQ/B379-F5-B3-D5-DE-4-FF0-AD8-C-63-A7-BFB5-B1-ED.webp) (https://imgbb.com/)[close]
Yup picked up like 3 orange pairs from Marshall’s back in the day. Great shoe.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteThe Knu Skool (less solid, but a puffy old skool is a good idea) and Fairlane are solid models, as long as they're not in gross, weird colors.
AVE 2.0 - wtf is that thing? Experimental technology is good but not when you butcher it like that! First AVE had the right idea with tech meets boardfeel in a cup.[close]
I wore a pair of the reissued Fairlane's as my work shoes last year. Super comfortable, and walking 11 miles a day on sidewalks they lasted me 8 months. Really solid shoe that I wish they would have kept in production. They even had an all black leather colorway which was perfect for me being a mail carrier
As for the AVE 2, I really wish they would go back to more simplistic designs with his shoes. It's just a weird choice for the Dickies and plain white tshirt guy to have the most outlandish looking shoe in the lineup. I get that he's an aging skater and needs a more protective shoe, but it would make more sense if they took the Nike Koston 1 approach, where the tech aspects are on the inside of a simple looking silhouette. Or just release a cupsole AVE Rapidweld and call it a day[close]
That would be true except he doesn't wear these shoes once the initial marketing push is over.[close]
This was the same problem with Elijah's shoe -- they pushed this new Wafflecup tech on us through him and all he skates are vulcs. Might as well made him a vulc shoe.
If they want to push Wafflecup tech with a skater, they need to push Glick more. Dude is always wearing the Zahba mids and likes the cupsole.[close]
I always respect how much footage Rowan has wearing his own model shoes[close]
Is it common for pros to not wear their own shoes? Decks I get...Nyjah, Ishod, Nora, Lizzie, Foy...list goes on, always in their own shoes.
THREE HUNDRED DOLLARYDOOS!
Actually kinda curious about the new AVE….until I saw the Oz price….
https://fasttimes.com.au/vans-ave-2-0-knit-cream.html
Woah. Yeah, nah. I’ll wait until sale.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZYw4MWL2rU
Actually kinda curious about the new AVE….until I saw the Oz price….
https://fasttimes.com.au/vans-ave-2-0-knit-cream.html
Woah. Yeah, nah. I’ll wait until sale.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZYw4MWL2rU
Those new AVEs are 170 francs here in Switzerland, which is... 188,5 American dollars.
poaching this thread to advertise...
i've got a pair of white AVEs in 10.5 I'm never going to wear up for sale. brand new, never worn
also got a pair of leather 92 half cabs, chili pepper colorway, 10.5. worn from shop to my car and never put on my feet again.
DM if interested in making an offer or trade
mark wahlberg and the entire municipal design team punching the air for not bringing this out first for shecks. looks like something I would see lululemon employees wearing with a pair of leggings or tight joggers. they've really hit a wall creatively, and honestly I just want someone to put vans out of their misery at this point.I only skate Vans, and chill in Vans as well for the last 20+ years (yes, a few exceptions in there).
nothing about this shoe makes any sense whatsoever.
firstly, if lifestyle consumers are going to buy a pair of vans, they're either going for one of the retro vulc's, the MTE line, or the ultrarange EXO. if they're in the market for this kind of shoe, $130 is absurdly expensive. people wanting this exact type of modern trainer style shoe are going to likely buy a cheap pair of adidas, new balance, hoka, on, asics, or nike.
secondly, the target market of skaters for these shoes has no real reason to pick these up versus any other shoe on the market. On the wall, why would someone pick this shoe over a tech shoe like the WairMax (failure in it's own right), 1010, 808, Nyjah 2/3?How does this shoe do anything different versus prior vans models like the Kyle Walker, Rowan 2, Wayvee, Zahba low/high, and the OG AVE? Why doesn't AVE himself not even wear his own shoes?
the average consumer and the target audience are really not going to buy a $130 pair of vans skate shoes, and skaters are not going to adopt something purely on the principle that AVE is behind it. there is absolutely no reason for this to exist.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCgH88TzoSoAgreed, and def more interested in the non-knit version; buuuut, will still check out the knit joints as chillers.
Wait, so the knit is a launch/limited version? With a proper sueded version to drop after? Is it cheaper? Talk about confusion...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCgH88TzoSoIs super confusing, but was from what I understand a very limited release. Most Vans stores didn’t even get them, wanted to just hold them but my vans store didn’t even get them. I believe the ones with a more solid collar are gonna be more widely available and like $10 cheaper.
Wait, so the knit is a launch/limited version? With a proper sueded version to drop after? Is it cheaper? Talk about confusion...
Is super confusing, but was from what I understand a very limited release. Most Vans stores didn’t even get them, wanted to just hold them but my vans store didn’t even get them. I believe the ones with a more solid collar are gonna be more widely available and like $10 cheaper.Expand Quotehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCgH88TzoSo
Wait, so the knit is a launch/limited version? With a proper sueded version to drop after? Is it cheaper? Talk about confusion...[close]
It’s really a bad look on Vans honestly. Like they’re pushing this tech knit version and then are gonna do a full 180 on customers and release a proper upper on the same sole. I mean it’s good for us knowing we can just wait it out but for the average person who sees this as some new thing only to have the carpet ripped out from under you with a proper actual shoe is just weird imo.
Expand QuoteIt’s really a bad look on Vans honestly. Like they’re pushing this tech knit version and then are gonna do a full 180 on customers and release a proper upper on the same sole. I mean it’s good for us knowing we can just wait it out but for the average person who sees this as some new thing only to have the carpet ripped out from under you with a proper actual shoe is just weird imo.[close]
Vans is always making weird decisions but ppl keep giving them money so I guess it is what it is. I feel like the more expensive version is aiming at middle aged guys who have more money to spend and are very nostalgic.
I wonder if they will start giving actual pro models to younger skaters once they can't milk the nostalgia market as much because everyone just gets custom color ways these days. They won't have older pro model shoes to beat to death and charge too much for the next generation.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteIt’s really a bad look on Vans honestly. Like they’re pushing this tech knit version and then are gonna do a full 180 on customers and release a proper upper on the same sole. I mean it’s good for us knowing we can just wait it out but for the average person who sees this as some new thing only to have the carpet ripped out from under you with a proper actual shoe is just weird imo.[close]
Vans is always making weird decisions but ppl keep giving them money so I guess it is what it is. I feel like the more expensive version is aiming at middle aged guys who have more money to spend and are very nostalgic.
I wonder if they will start giving actual pro models to younger skaters once they can't milk the nostalgia market as much because everyone just gets custom color ways these days. They won't have older pro model shoes to beat to death and charge too much for the next generation.[close]
What are they nostalgic for? Just AVE? The shoe itself isn't nostalgic at all. We also know Vans has been pretty open that their classic models, which you could argue are "nostalgic," aren't selling like they used to so I don't think they're milking that market.
I know it's just because we've seen the knit version so much, but I kinda like the knit version more than the normal version in the catalog right now...
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteIt’s really a bad look on Vans honestly. Like they’re pushing this tech knit version and then are gonna do a full 180 on customers and release a proper upper on the same sole. I mean it’s good for us knowing we can just wait it out but for the average person who sees this as some new thing only to have the carpet ripped out from under you with a proper actual shoe is just weird imo.[close]
Vans is always making weird decisions but ppl keep giving them money so I guess it is what it is. I feel like the more expensive version is aiming at middle aged guys who have more money to spend and are very nostalgic.
I wonder if they will start giving actual pro models to younger skaters once they can't milk the nostalgia market as much because everyone just gets custom color ways these days. They won't have older pro model shoes to beat to death and charge too much for the next generation.[close]
What are they nostalgic for? Just AVE? The shoe itself isn't nostalgic at all. We also know Vans has been pretty open that their classic models, which you could argue are "nostalgic," aren't selling like they used to so I don't think they're milking that market.
I know it's just because we've seen the knit version so much, but I kinda like the knit version more than the normal version in the catalog right now...[close]
Yea, for AVE.
If there’s a shoe possible of succeeding it’s the rowan 2Expand QuoteIs super confusing, but was from what I understand a very limited release. Most Vans stores didn’t even get them, wanted to just hold them but my vans store didn’t even get them. I believe the ones with a more solid collar are gonna be more widely available and like $10 cheaper.Expand Quotehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCgH88TzoSo
Wait, so the knit is a launch/limited version? With a proper sueded version to drop after? Is it cheaper? Talk about confusion...[close][close]
Seems like such a strange strategy because the form-fitting knit/sock collar seems to be one of the selling points for the tech of the shoe.
From the outside looking in, aside from the Tiago 1010, it feels like it’s been a rough recent few years for new pro model shoes having selling/staying power vs team models so I’d love to see this shoe succeed because it’s AVE (idk if this will be the shoe to do that though, we’ll see)
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteIt’s really a bad look on Vans honestly. Like they’re pushing this tech knit version and then are gonna do a full 180 on customers and release a proper upper on the same sole. I mean it’s good for us knowing we can just wait it out but for the average person who sees this as some new thing only to have the carpet ripped out from under you with a proper actual shoe is just weird imo.[close]
Vans is always making weird decisions but ppl keep giving them money so I guess it is what it is. I feel like the more expensive version is aiming at middle aged guys who have more money to spend and are very nostalgic.
I wonder if they will start giving actual pro models to younger skaters once they can't milk the nostalgia market as much because everyone just gets custom color ways these days. They won't have older pro model shoes to beat to death and charge too much for the next generation.[close]
What are they nostalgic for? Just AVE? The shoe itself isn't nostalgic at all. We also know Vans has been pretty open that their classic models, which you could argue are "nostalgic," aren't selling like they used to so I don't think they're milking that market.
I know it's just because we've seen the knit version so much, but I kinda like the knit version more than the normal version in the catalog right now...[close]
Yea, for AVE.[close]
Not even sure why you'd give him a shoe these days? Sure, old SOTY, still rips, part (but not the face of) FA, footage? Smells like a contract wrap up to me.
Pushing the knit is super bizzare when you are going to phase it out; also, last shoe that used the ultimate waffle? The failure that was the Berle?
Pretty sure the Rowan 2 has UltimateWaffle sole.
What about the Rapidweld felt so different?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCgH88TzoSo
Wait, so the knit is a launch/limited version? With a proper sueded version to drop after? Is it cheaper? Talk about confusion...
Expand Quotehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCgH88TzoSo
Wait, so the knit is a launch/limited version? With a proper sueded version to drop after? Is it cheaper? Talk about confusion...[close]
Yeah, idk - looking at the Thrasher article there seems to be heaps of colorways coming out, and zero mention of this knit AVE being a limited edition. I reckon this is it, but I guess we’ll see. Either way, I’m hoping for a big price drop.
https://www.thrashermagazine.com/articles/burnout/ave-too/
Expand QuoteExpand Quotehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCgH88TzoSo
Wait, so the knit is a launch/limited version? With a proper sueded version to drop after? Is it cheaper? Talk about confusion...[close]
Yeah, idk - looking at the Thrasher article there seems to be heaps of colorways coming out, and zero mention of this knit AVE being a limited edition. I reckon this is it, but I guess we’ll see. Either way, I’m hoping for a big price drop.
https://www.thrashermagazine.com/articles/burnout/ave-too/[close]
It isn’t it, there’s non knit on the way. 110%
Expand Quotehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCgH88TzoSo
Wait, so the knit is a launch/limited version? With a proper sueded version to drop after? Is it cheaper? Talk about confusion...[close]
Yeah, idk - looking at the Thrasher article there seems to be heaps of colorways coming out, and zero mention of this knit AVE being a limited edition. I reckon this is it, but I guess we’ll see. Either way, I’m hoping for a big price drop.
https://www.thrashermagazine.com/articles/burnout/ave-too/
Looks like there’s at least 4-5 knit colorways in that display and we’ve seen 3-4 non knit between the article and the catalog photos.lizzie low
What shoe is martino skating in that article?
(https://i.ibb.co/xmzgBfD/IMG-2967.jpg) (https://ibb.co/xmzgBfD) (https://imgbb.com/)lizzie lowExpand QuoteLooks like there’s at least 4-5 knit colorways in that display and we’ve seen 3-4 non knit between the article and the catalog photos.
What shoe is martino skating in that article?[close]
Pretty sure that's just a Zahba Mid(https://i.ibb.co/xmzgBfD/IMG-2967.jpg) (https://ibb.co/xmzgBfD) (https://imgbb.com/)Expand Quotelizzie lowExpand QuoteLooks like there’s at least 4-5 knit colorways in that display and we’ve seen 3-4 non knit between the article and the catalog photos.
What shoe is martino skating in that article?[close][close]
And Glick wearing an unfamiliar high top cupsole
Ah, that makes sense, just a new colorway I guess…Pretty sure that's just a Zahba MidExpand Quote(https://i.ibb.co/xmzgBfD/IMG-2967.jpg) (https://ibb.co/xmzgBfD) (https://imgbb.com/)Expand Quotelizzie lowExpand QuoteLooks like there’s at least 4-5 knit colorways in that display and we’ve seen 3-4 non knit between the article and the catalog photos.
What shoe is martino skating in that article?[close][close]
And Glick wearing an unfamiliar high top cupsole[close]
Expand QuoteExpand Quotehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCgH88TzoSo
Wait, so the knit is a launch/limited version? With a proper sueded version to drop after? Is it cheaper? Talk about confusion...[close]
Yeah, idk - looking at the Thrasher article there seems to be heaps of colorways coming out, and zero mention of this knit AVE being a limited edition. I reckon this is it, but I guess we’ll see. Either way, I’m hoping for a big price drop.
https://www.thrashermagazine.com/articles/burnout/ave-too/[close]
It isn’t it, there’s non knit on the way. 110%
Expand QuoteExpand Quotehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCgH88TzoSo
Wait, so the knit is a launch/limited version? With a proper sueded version to drop after? Is it cheaper? Talk about confusion...[close]
Yeah, idk - looking at the Thrasher article there seems to be heaps of colorways coming out, and zero mention of this knit AVE being a limited edition. I reckon this is it, but I guess we’ll see. Either way, I’m hoping for a big price drop.
https://www.thrashermagazine.com/articles/burnout/ave-too/[close]
Some of those coloways aren't knitted though. Like the pink ones next to Diego are the normal ones.
Does anyone know why they’ve never marketed their bmx cupsole slipons, old Skools etc toward skating? Surely that would be more popular than whatever zaba garbage they always put out
Anyone skating the AVE 2 and want to offer some feedback?
ya,ll seen the new BMX shoe they just released?Yes we've seen in countless times in here on the recent days.
https://www.vans.com/en-us/shoes-c00081/bmx-peak-x-lewis-mills-shoe-pvn0a2z3uh91?icn=bmx-shopby-p1_peak-shoes_product_d-pdp_040824
(https://images.vans.com/is/image/Vans/VN0A2Z3U_H91_HERO?wid=1600&hei=1984&fmt=jpeg&qlt=90&resMode=sharp2&op_usm=0.9,1.7,8,0)
spotted these in DSW when picking up some dress shoes. picked them up and they're heavy af.
https://www.dsw.com/en/us/product/vans-caldrone-sneaker---mens/542025?activeColor=210 (https://www.dsw.com/en/us/product/vans-caldrone-sneaker---mens/542025?activeColor=210)
(https://images.dsw.com/is/image/DSWShoes/542025_210_ss_01?impolicy=qlt-medium-high&imwidth=640&imdensity=2)
Expand QuoteAnyone skating the AVE 2 and want to offer some feedback?[close]
I bit the bullet and bought them with 15% vans family discount. Haven’t skated em yet but the knit makes em fit like a glove(suctions to your foot). The laces are almost satin-like I don’t really like them they don’t stay tied. Very stiff for being knit material, dare I say supportive. Gonna take a minute to break in, also they’re tts.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteAnyone skating the AVE 2 and want to offer some feedback?[close]
I bit the bullet and bought them with 15% vans family discount. Haven’t skated em yet but the knit makes em fit like a glove(suctions to your foot). The laces are almost satin-like I don’t really like them they don’t stay tied. Very stiff for being knit material, dare I say supportive. Gonna take a minute to break in, also they’re tts.[close]
Much obliged! I ordered some and they're really light and a little narrow but not too much. Length seems TTS. Not sure if I'm going to keep them though based on the fact I have far too many shoes already and I have no idea if they're worth it.
Apart from the weird treads on those BMX shoes, they seem like a Vans Marana and I don’t hate them.
Rowley X vibes.Expand Quotespotted these in DSW when picking up some dress shoes. picked them up and they're heavy af.
https://www.dsw.com/en/us/product/vans-caldrone-sneaker---mens/542025?activeColor=210 (https://www.dsw.com/en/us/product/vans-caldrone-sneaker---mens/542025?activeColor=210)
(https://images.dsw.com/is/image/DSWShoes/542025_210_ss_01?impolicy=qlt-medium-high&imwidth=640&imdensity=2)[close]
The Wowan Zowiwwa pwo models
The pricing of the AVE 2.0 in Australia is absolutely fucked in the head. Might cop em on sale in a few months for $70 though.
(https://i.ibb.co/m6kgFy0/Screenshot-2024-04-17-at-12-45-36-PM.png) (https://ibb.co/m6kgFy0)
Just so people have a comparison Leo Baker and ishod 2 Nike's, tyshawn Adidas are all about $150-160 and tiagos are about $200 hereExpand QuoteThe pricing of the AVE 2.0 in Australia is absolutely fucked in the head. Might cop em on sale in a few months for $70 though.
(https://i.ibb.co/m6kgFy0/Screenshot-2024-04-17-at-12-45-36-PM.png) (https://ibb.co/m6kgFy0)[close]
That’s fucking insulting.
Still blows em out of the water. No one could afford to skate those without a sponno. Are they hoping to hypebeast it?Just so people have a comparison Leo Baker and ishod 2 Nike's, tyshawn Adidas are all about $150-160 and tiagos are about $200 hereExpand QuoteExpand QuoteThe pricing of the AVE 2.0 in Australia is absolutely fucked in the head. Might cop em on sale in a few months for $70 though.
(https://i.ibb.co/m6kgFy0/Screenshot-2024-04-17-at-12-45-36-PM.png) (https://ibb.co/m6kgFy0)[close]
That’s fucking insulting.[close]
Honestly no idea. And how good could they even be? Even if they're the best shoes ever made I don't see how they could be better than two pairs of basically any other shoe.Still blows em out of the water. No one could afford to skate those without a sponno. Are they hoping to hypebeast it?Expand QuoteJust so people have a comparison Leo Baker and ishod 2 Nike's, tyshawn Adidas are all about $150-160 and tiagos are about $200 hereExpand QuoteExpand QuoteThe pricing of the AVE 2.0 in Australia is absolutely fucked in the head. Might cop em on sale in a few months for $70 though.
(https://i.ibb.co/m6kgFy0/Screenshot-2024-04-17-at-12-45-36-PM.png) (https://ibb.co/m6kgFy0)[close]
That’s fucking insulting.[close][close]
Here is even sounds worse. Ave 2.0 are 3500 CZK and Ishod 2 are 2700 for example and 1010 2800 CZKJust so people have a comparison Leo Baker and ishod 2 Nike's, tyshawn Adidas are all about $150-160 and tiagos are about $200 hereExpand QuoteExpand QuoteThe pricing of the AVE 2.0 in Australia is absolutely fucked in the head. Might cop em on sale in a few months for $70 though.
(https://i.ibb.co/m6kgFy0/Screenshot-2024-04-17-at-12-45-36-PM.png) (https://ibb.co/m6kgFy0)[close]
That’s fucking insulting.[close]
you skate the zahbas by any chance? how do they compare, fit-wise and width-wise?Expand QuoteAnyone skating the AVE 2 and want to offer some feedback?[close]
I bit the bullet and bought them with 15% vans family discount. Haven’t skated em yet but the knit makes em fit like a glove(suctions to your foot). The laces are almost satin-like I don’t really like them they don’t stay tied. Very stiff for being knit material, dare I say supportive. Gonna take a minute to break in, also they’re tts.
Anyone skating the AVE 2 and want to offer some feedback?
They are a little narrow, if u have a wider foot a half size up should fix that. The mids aren't as narrow as the lows.you skate the zahbas by any chance? how do they compare, fit-wise and width-wise?Expand QuoteExpand QuoteAnyone skating the AVE 2 and want to offer some feedback?[close]
I bit the bullet and bought them with 15% vans family discount. Haven’t skated em yet but the knit makes em fit like a glove(suctions to your foot). The laces are almost satin-like I don’t really like them they don’t stay tied. Very stiff for being knit material, dare I say supportive. Gonna take a minute to break in, also they’re tts.[close]
Those blue suede authentics from jcrew look like hot fiya
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteAnyone skating the AVE 2 and want to offer some feedback?[close]
I bit the bullet and bought them with 15% vans family discount. Haven’t skated em yet but the knit makes em fit like a glove(suctions to your foot). The laces are almost satin-like I don’t really like them they don’t stay tied. Very stiff for being knit material, dare I say supportive. Gonna take a minute to break in, also they’re tts.[close]
Much obliged! I ordered some and they're really light and a little narrow but not too much. Length seems TTS. Not sure if I'm going to keep them though based on the fact I have far too many shoes already and I have no idea if they're worth it.
Anyone have any feedback on the zhaba mids??
Ah, that makes sense, just a new colorway I guess…Expand QuotePretty sure that's just a Zahba MidExpand Quote(https://i.ibb.co/xmzgBfD/IMG-2967.jpg) (https://ibb.co/xmzgBfD) (https://imgbb.com/)Expand Quotelizzie lowExpand QuoteLooks like there’s at least 4-5 knit colorways in that display and we’ve seen 3-4 non knit between the article and the catalog photos.
What shoe is martino skating in that article?[close][close]
And Glick wearing an unfamiliar high top cupsole[close][close]
Zahba Low and Mid both run small - they're narrower in the toe than other Vans models, so I'd go 0.5 up instead of TTS.
Same with Rowan 2 - 0.5 up is more comfortable
What's the slimmest looking halfcab? They look good in photos but kinda potatoey and stupid on my feet. I skated them a lot mid to late 2000's and I swear they were somewhat slimmer. I know there's a lot of different versions, just can't find what I'm looking for.
Fellas is it gay to want vans on ur feet?
What's the slimmest looking halfcab? They look good in photos but kinda potatoey and stupid on my feet. I skated them a lot mid to late 2000's and I swear they were somewhat slimmer. I know there's a lot of different versions, just can't find what I'm looking for.
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Fellas is it gay to want vans on ur feet?[close]
It's 2024, you should not use gay in a derogatory way
these look pretty good compared to the usual navy old skool though
Do Half Cabs run true to size these days?
Expand QuoteThose blue suede authentics from jcrew look like hot fiya[close]
People complaining about the price of'em but it's 'proper' suede not 'skate shoe' suede; totally different grade of suede.
Suede.
What's the slimmest looking halfcab? They look good in photos but kinda potatoey and stupid on my feet. I skated them a lot mid to late 2000's and I swear they were somewhat slimmer. I know there's a lot of different versions, just can't find what I'm looking for.
Y'all see the new Supreme collab?
https://supreme.com/news/965/images?=5
https://www.instagram.com/p/C8KvRr3uEw8/?igsh=Z2p6d3k0djBteGw1
The non sock version of the AVE 2.0s aren’t too shabby.
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The non sock version of the AVE 2.0s aren’t too shabby.[close]
That’s the best looking shots of the green I’ve seen—look good for sure. I’m digging the purple cw a bunch.
I love the lavender AVE2s.
Expand QuoteI love the lavender AVE2s.[close]
This is the correct opinion
What's the slimmest looking halfcab? They look good in photos but kinda potatoey and stupid on my feet. I skated them a lot mid to late 2000's and I swear they were somewhat slimmer. I know there's a lot of different versions, just can't find what I'm looking for.I skated em back then and I swore there were 2 versions of that shoe. One had a really puffy tongue, and the other had a slimmer tongue. It made one look like a potato, which looked sick with baggies, and the other was more slim cut. Maybe I was trippin..
I skated em back then and I swore there were 2 versions of that shoe. One had a really puffy tongue, and the other had a slimmer tongue. It made one look like a potato, which looked sick with baggies, and the other was more slim cut. Maybe I was trippin..Expand QuoteWhat's the slimmest looking halfcab? They look good in photos but kinda potatoey and stupid on my feet. I skated them a lot mid to late 2000's and I swear they were somewhat slimmer. I know there's a lot of different versions, just can't find what I'm looking for.[close]
I also used to look up the codes on the rubber. Can’t recall if it did anything though. Some vans I bought had these buttery soft rubber soles that skated so good and didn’t last, and other soles felt hard as a rock and I could wear em forever, but they sucked to skate.
Anyway…
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI love the lavender AVE2s.[close]
This is the correct opinion[close]
Agreed. Very soothing
Anyone skated both the AVE 2.0 knit and non-knit yet? Curious about the difference in fit and performance. Noticed an additional eyelet on the non-knit.
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Skated both Versions.
Both very narrow in the forefoot, the knit version even worse.
Knit feels very snug but the sizing is strange.
I bought my normal size (10.5) but theyre a tad too long.
Half size down and they were way too narrow to even wear them.
The non knit version fits better for me at least.
The knitted version didnt offer much stability for me so i wont buy and skate them ever again.
Both shoes actually feel and perform much like the old AVE.
The non knit version feels a bit beefier than the old ave. Good stability, good flick.
But too narrow in the toebox.
Heellock felt not that great for me since the laces were too short for the additional eyelet.
Good shoe, much like the old AVE. Too narrow for me, wont buy again.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteAnyone skated both the AVE 2.0 knit and non-knit yet? Curious about the difference in fit and performance. Noticed an additional eyelet on the non-knit.[close]
Skated both Versions.
Both very narrow in the forefoot, the knit version even worse.
Knit feels very snug but the sizing is strange.
I bought my normal size (10.5) but theyre a tad too long.
Half size down and they were way too narrow to even wear them.
The non knit version fits better for me at least.
The knitted version didnt offer much stability for me so i wont buy and skate them ever again.
Both shoes actually feel and perform much like the old AVE.
The non knit version feels a bit beefier than the old ave. Good stability, good flick.
But too narrow in the toebox.
Heellock felt not that great for me since the laces were too short for the additional eyelet.
Good shoe, much like the old AVE. Too narrow for me, wont buy again.[close]
Greatly appreciate the feedback!
I'm skating the knit in my regular size but they are slightly narrow in forefoot but still feel a tad too long. I still like skating them as they leave my body feeling fine (so light yet supportive) after a long session/multiple days in a row. Would like to try the non-knit (lavender of course).
https://www.vans.com/en-us/shoes-c00081/skate-mixxa-shoe-pvn000cuyy27Wtf
https://www.vans.com/en-us/shoes-c00081/skate-mixxa-shoe-pvn000cuyy27This is one of the ugliest Vans I've ever seen in my life
This is one of the ugliest Vans I've ever seen in my lifeExpand Quotehttps://www.vans.com/en-us/shoes-c00081/skate-mixxa-shoe-pvn000cuyy27[close]
https://www.vans.com/en-us/shoes-c00081/skate-mixxa-shoe-pvn000cuyy27
WtfExpand Quotehttps://www.vans.com/en-us/shoes-c00081/skate-mixxa-shoe-pvn000cuyy27[close]
This is one of the ugliest Vans I've ever seen in my lifeExpand Quotehttps://www.vans.com/en-us/shoes-c00081/skate-mixxa-shoe-pvn000cuyy27[close]
Is Vans actively trying to get us to not want to buy their shoes? Those are just bizarre.All well said here…
Except we have eS and DC to fill the void with shoes people were actually wearing in the 2000s. This is a pathetic attempt to make something that will be popular on tik-tok, like the knu school. Shoes like this basically killed them back in the day.Expand QuoteThis is one of the ugliest Vans I've ever seen in my lifeExpand Quotehttps://www.vans.com/en-us/shoes-c00081/skate-mixxa-shoe-pvn000cuyy27[close][close]
They're very much not my style and I would never wear them but I think they're kind of neat for the 2000's nostalgia crowd. But maybe I'm crazy
Feel like it was more all the Larry David/dad sneakers that fucked then up more than the pro line or whatever. Proper skaters prob wore es and DC but there were years where my entire highschool or if I went to the mall or something vans like this or globes is what every person had on.Except we have eS and DC to fill the void with shoes people were actually wearing in the 2000s. This is a pathetic attempt to make something that will be popular on tik-tok, like the knu school. Shoes like this basically killed them back in the day.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteThis is one of the ugliest Vans I've ever seen in my lifeExpand Quotehttps://www.vans.com/en-us/shoes-c00081/skate-mixxa-shoe-pvn000cuyy27[close][close]
They're very much not my style and I would never wear them but I think they're kind of neat for the 2000's nostalgia crowd. But maybe I'm crazy[close]
I really don’t understand how you all don’t get it, but Vans isn’t making those shoes to appeal to us. They have their skate lines for people like us. They’re making those shoes to appeal to the fashion people buying bulky, tangentially skate inspired shoes from things like Balenciaga and people buying bulky shoes that aren’t skate inspired from brands like New Balance, Hoka, Brooks, etc. but don’t need the running-focused tech.no fashion person thinks vans is cool anymore lets be honest which is why the whole thing is severely off target
If they happen to sell some to the hypebeast, e-boys/e-girls, or TikTok skaters, that’s a bonus. But the people who are happy skating Half-Cabs, Old Skools, Eras, AVE2s, and Crocketts already have those shoes. That’s not who they are targeting with this stuff.
no fashion person thinks vans is cool anymore lets be honest which is why the whole thing is severely off targetExpand QuoteI really don’t understand how you all don’t get it, but Vans isn’t making those shoes to appeal to us. They have their skate lines for people like us. They’re making those shoes to appeal to the fashion people buying bulky, tangentially skate inspired shoes from things like Balenciaga and people buying bulky shoes that aren’t skate inspired from brands like New Balance, Hoka, Brooks, etc. but don’t need the running-focused tech.
If they happen to sell some to the hypebeast, e-boys/e-girls, or TikTok skaters, that’s a bonus. But the people who are happy skating Half-Cabs, Old Skools, Eras, AVE2s, and Crocketts already have those shoes. That’s not who they are targeting with this stuff.[close]
I really don’t understand how you all don’t get it, but Vans isn’t making those shoes to appeal to us. They have their skate lines for people like us. They’re making those shoes to appeal to the fashion people buying bulky, tangentially skate inspired shoes from things like Balenciaga and people buying bulky shoes that aren’t skate inspired from brands like New Balance, Hoka, Brooks, etc. but don’t need the running-focused tech.This is obviously a desperation move to get themselves back on trend, but the designs are awful by today's standards and yesterday's standards. They're not beautifully ugly in the way that NB dad shoes are, or like the D3 is. I guarantee this shit was designed by AI and then made into a shoe pattern by a designer. They brought out so many of these at once to just throw shit at the wall and see what sticks. Same thing with the Vault line. Throw collabs at the consumer and desperately try to get them to buy.
If they happen to sell some to the hypebeast, e-boys/e-girls, or TikTok skaters, that’s a bonus. But the people who are happy skating Half-Cabs, Old Skools, Eras, AVE2s, and Crocketts already have those shoes. That’s not who they are targeting with this stuff.
I really don’t understand how you all don’t get it, but Vans isn’t making those shoes to appeal to us. They have their skate lines for people like us. They’re making those shoes to appeal to the fashion people buying bulky, tangentially skate inspired shoes from things like Balenciaga and people buying bulky shoes that aren’t skate inspired from brands like New Balance, Hoka, Brooks, etc. but don’t need the running-focused tech.
If they happen to sell some to the hypebeast, e-boys/e-girls, or TikTok skaters, that’s a bonus. But the people who are happy skating Half-Cabs, Old Skools, Eras, AVE2s, and Crocketts already have those shoes. That’s not who they are targeting with this stuff.
no fashion person thinks vans is cool anymore lets be honest which is why the whole thing is severely off targetExpand QuoteI really don’t understand how you all don’t get it, but Vans isn’t making those shoes to appeal to us. They have their skate lines for people like us. They’re making those shoes to appeal to the fashion people buying bulky, tangentially skate inspired shoes from things like Balenciaga and people buying bulky shoes that aren’t skate inspired from brands like New Balance, Hoka, Brooks, etc. but don’t need the running-focused tech.
If they happen to sell some to the hypebeast, e-boys/e-girls, or TikTok skaters, that’s a bonus. But the people who are happy skating Half-Cabs, Old Skools, Eras, AVE2s, and Crocketts already have those shoes. That’s not who they are targeting with this stuff.[close]
Expand QuoteI really don’t understand how you all don’t get it, but Vans isn’t making those shoes to appeal to us. They have their skate lines for people like us. They’re making those shoes to appeal to the fashion people buying bulky, tangentially skate inspired shoes from things like Balenciaga and people buying bulky shoes that aren’t skate inspired from brands like New Balance, Hoka, Brooks, etc. but don’t need the running-focused tech.
If they happen to sell some to the hypebeast, e-boys/e-girls, or TikTok skaters, that’s a bonus. But the people who are happy skating Half-Cabs, Old Skools, Eras, AVE2s, and Crocketts already have those shoes. That’s not who they are targeting with this stuff.[close]
That’s what I would think too, but I’m seeing those models pop up on a few shop IGs today
Do the Rowan 2s run a little small? I’m a 9 and tried it at the store, my toes were touching the top of the shoe.
I just did! They feel really good.Expand QuoteDo the Rowan 2s run a little small? I’m a 9 and tried it at the store, my toes were touching the top of the shoe.[close]
I had to go a half-size up. Skate really well though.
Do the Rowan 2s run a little small? I’m a 9 and tried it at the store, my toes were touching the top of the shoe.Size 9 here also. Had to get 9.5s but they fit and skated so nice. My feet love that sole.
Do the Rowan 2s run a little small? I’m a 9 and tried it at the store, my toes were touching the top of the shoe.
Tried the outlets? They’re $60 there.Size 9 here also. Had to get 9.5s but they fit and skated so nice. My feet love that sole.Expand QuoteDo the Rowan 2s run a little small? I’m a 9 and tried it at the store, my toes were touching the top of the shoe.[close]
Side tip - super gluing the high wear spots on the upper made them last so long. I was skating 4-5 times a week and they lasted all spring. Even still have a bit of life left, but the sole is starting to get thin and bust open. The duracap underneath the suede on the toe cap is strong as fuck, still haven't broken through that.
ugh gotta start paying attention to the sale gear thread again cause they are a pretty penny
They're like a sock to me at 9 but the way I like to skate I’d end up with bunions. The 9.5 feels a similar fit to me that a 9 Nike Blazer does.Expand QuoteDo the Rowan 2s run a little small? I’m a 9 and tried it at the store, my toes were touching the top of the shoe.[close]
They were TTS for me.
I'd kill for a proper rowan 2.0 mid.
Size 9 here also. Had to get 9.5s but they fit and skated so nice. My feet love that sole.Expand QuoteDo the Rowan 2s run a little small? I’m a 9 and tried it at the store, my toes were touching the top of the shoe.[close]
Side tip - super gluing the high wear spots on the upper made them last so long. I was skating 4-5 times a week and they lasted all spring. Even still have a bit of life left, but the sole is starting to get thin and bust open. The duracap underneath the suede on the toe cap is strong as fuck, still haven't broken through that.
ugh gotta start paying attention to the sale gear thread again cause they are a pretty penny
Expand QuoteDo the Rowan 2s run a little small? I’m a 9 and tried it at the store, my toes were touching the top of the shoe.[close]
They were TTS for me.
I'd kill for a proper rowan 2.0 mid.
Expand Quoteno fashion person thinks vans is cool anymore lets be honest which is why the whole thing is severely off targetExpand QuoteI really don’t understand how you all don’t get it, but Vans isn’t making those shoes to appeal to us. They have their skate lines for people like us. They’re making those shoes to appeal to the fashion people buying bulky, tangentially skate inspired shoes from things like Balenciaga and people buying bulky shoes that aren’t skate inspired from brands like New Balance, Hoka, Brooks, etc. but don’t need the running-focused tech.
If they happen to sell some to the hypebeast, e-boys/e-girls, or TikTok skaters, that’s a bonus. But the people who are happy skating Half-Cabs, Old Skools, Eras, AVE2s, and Crocketts already have those shoes. That’s not who they are targeting with this stuff.[close][close]
Yeah, I know. That's because fashion people stopped liking Old Skools, Eras, Authentics, Sk8-His, etc. in preference for more bulky models which is why Vans is trying to make new models that look like those.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI really don’t understand how you all don’t get it, but Vans isn’t making those shoes to appeal to us. They have their skate lines for people like us. They’re making those shoes to appeal to the fashion people buying bulky, tangentially skate inspired shoes from things like Balenciaga and people buying bulky shoes that aren’t skate inspired from brands like New Balance, Hoka, Brooks, etc. but don’t need the running-focused tech.
If they happen to sell some to the hypebeast, e-boys/e-girls, or TikTok skaters, that’s a bonus. But the people who are happy skating Half-Cabs, Old Skools, Eras, AVE2s, and Crocketts already have those shoes. That’s not who they are targeting with this stuff.[close]
That’s what I would think too, but I’m seeing those models pop up on a few shop IGs today[close]
It's somewhat surprising, but not really. Vans still has those relationships in place, so it makes sense to still use them because they want these shoes in as many places as possible. And if they catch some skaters, it makes sense to grab them at skateshops and help skateshops make some money too. Depending on the shops, they might just be centrally located. Like in New York, Labor's Manhattan shop is dead center in one of the current coolest neighborhoods in the city that's packed every night and weekend with people hanging around outside, walking around to different stores / bars, chilling at the park. Vans wants their shoes there.
I'm not saying we have to loves these shoes, but it's just so obvious that these are designed with skaters as the secondary or third focus that it's ridiculous to be like "well, I wouldn't skate them." It's like "yeah, no shit - they're not made for us!"
Vans, if you're listening, more Mike Carroll colorways please.
Still think their money and energy would be better spent doing better colorways with higher quality materials on the skate classics.
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Expand QuoteExpand QuoteStill think their money and energy would be better spent doing better colorways with higher quality materials on the skate classics.[close][close]
Wasn’t the whole point of the “skate” line to be higher quality? And all everyone has complained about since they released them was the fit/sizing and uncomfortable/tight feeling of all the classics because the popcush insole doesn’t work with those silhouettes.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteStill think their money and energy would be better spent doing better colorways with higher quality materials on the skate classics.[close][close]
Wasn’t the whole point of the “skate” line to be higher quality? And all everyone has complained about since they released them was the fit/sizing and uncomfortable/tight feeling of all the classics because the popcush insole doesn’t work with those silhouettes.[close]
In my experience, the skate line isn't some crazy improvement over the pro series, but I actually do feel like they're more durable. The exception here is that the foxing tape separates from the sole of the new half cabs pretty often. Have had sizing with slip on, but everything else is consistent in my experience.
When I say better materials, I really just mean throwing on different suedes and leathers than just the standard grade stuff they use on most shoes. Like, I have a pair of half cab 92's have a noticeably nicer looking/feeling suede than the regular ones from the skate line. I also have a pair of the sk8 hi vcu's that have little differences like leather lining around the collar and lightly waxed laces that make them feel unique. These are too few and far between though.
That really sucks though, they need to fix the slips on for sure. I miss those.QC on almost every skate pair of vans has been horrific. I've had like five warranty claims in the last two years. I've had shoes with two different sizes because they can't get the last right. Those elastic straps for the tongue are never stitched in the right place. I used to love popcush until I realized it fucked up my walk because it's too mushy underfoot.
QC on almost every skate pair of vans has been horrific. I've had like five warranty claims in the last two years. I've had shoes with two different sizes because they can't get the last right. Those elastic straps for the tongue are never stitched in the right place. I used to love popcush until I realized it fucked up my walk because it's too mushy underfoot.Expand QuoteThat really sucks though, they need to fix the slips on for sure. I miss those.[close]
I had issues with the AVE, Wayvee, Half Cab (twice), Crockett Decon (two pair of the quasi collab), SK8 hi's, probably a few other models I tried but can't remember. Only ones that I have had no issues with are the original Rowan, Era, and Authentic. I wore them all the time when they were the cheapest option and bulk bought when the outlet ran good deals. It was nice when I could wear them at work all day and not have any issues with my feet, but I've pretty much just switched over to whatever I can get from Adidas/Nike/NB. It's not an issue with just outlet shoes either, because I've bought a few pair at my shop and had issues with those. The Crockett low were unwearable with the popcush.Expand QuoteQC on almost every skate pair of vans has been horrific. I've had like five warranty claims in the last two years. I've had shoes with two different sizes because they can't get the last right. Those elastic straps for the tongue are never stitched in the right place. I used to love popcush until I realized it fucked up my walk because it's too mushy underfoot.Expand QuoteThat really sucks though, they need to fix the slips on for sure. I miss those.[close][close]
What models you skating? I've noticed shoddy qc on skate half cabs and slips only. Authentics have been consistently good, and the few pairs of skate hi's/mids I've had have been on point. Haven't skated any other vans shoes since they started the "skate" line though.
Expand QuoteQC on almost every skate pair of vans has been horrific. I've had like five warranty claims in the last two years. I've had shoes with two different sizes because they can't get the last right. Those elastic straps for the tongue are never stitched in the right place. I used to love popcush until I realized it fucked up my walk because it's too mushy underfoot.Expand QuoteThat really sucks though, they need to fix the slips on for sure. I miss those.[close][close]
What models you skating? I've noticed shoddy qc on skate half cabs and slips only. Authentics have been consistently good, and the few pairs of skate hi's/mids I've had have been on point. Haven't skated any other vans shoes since they started the "skate" line though.
Expand QuoteExpand Quoteno fashion person thinks vans is cool anymore lets be honest which is why the whole thing is severely off targetExpand QuoteI really don’t understand how you all don’t get it, but Vans isn’t making those shoes to appeal to us. They have their skate lines for people like us. They’re making those shoes to appeal to the fashion people buying bulky, tangentially skate inspired shoes from things like Balenciaga and people buying bulky shoes that aren’t skate inspired from brands like New Balance, Hoka, Brooks, etc. but don’t need the running-focused tech.
If they happen to sell some to the hypebeast, e-boys/e-girls, or TikTok skaters, that’s a bonus. But the people who are happy skating Half-Cabs, Old Skools, Eras, AVE2s, and Crocketts already have those shoes. That’s not who they are targeting with this stuff.[close][close]
Yeah, I know. That's because fashion people stopped liking Old Skools, Eras, Authentics, Sk8-His, etc. in preference for more bulky models which is why Vans is trying to make new models that look like those.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI really don’t understand how you all don’t get it, but Vans isn’t making those shoes to appeal to us. They have their skate lines for people like us. They’re making those shoes to appeal to the fashion people buying bulky, tangentially skate inspired shoes from things like Balenciaga and people buying bulky shoes that aren’t skate inspired from brands like New Balance, Hoka, Brooks, etc. but don’t need the running-focused tech.
If they happen to sell some to the hypebeast, e-boys/e-girls, or TikTok skaters, that’s a bonus. But the people who are happy skating Half-Cabs, Old Skools, Eras, AVE2s, and Crocketts already have those shoes. That’s not who they are targeting with this stuff.[close]
That’s what I would think too, but I’m seeing those models pop up on a few shop IGs today[close]
It's somewhat surprising, but not really. Vans still has those relationships in place, so it makes sense to still use them because they want these shoes in as many places as possible. And if they catch some skaters, it makes sense to grab them at skateshops and help skateshops make some money too. Depending on the shops, they might just be centrally located. Like in New York, Labor's Manhattan shop is dead center in one of the current coolest neighborhoods in the city that's packed every night and weekend with people hanging around outside, walking around to different stores / bars, chilling at the park. Vans wants their shoes there.
I'm not saying we have to loves these shoes, but it's just so obvious that these are designed with skaters as the secondary or third focus that it's ridiculous to be like "well, I wouldn't skate them." It's like "yeah, no shit - they're not made for us!"[close]
Not to be rude but you’re very clearly talking out your ass and did a whole lot of mental gymnastics to come to the conclusion that these aren’t skate shoes. These are in the skate line and Una is gonna get a Vans x Dime x Una colorway. I would put my money on these 100% being marketed towards skaters.
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And I don’t think they would bother throwing all that tech into a shoe that “isn’t made for us”. I do agree they aren’t for the classic core classic vans skate line wearer, but there’s still room for other shoes in the vans line-up. These are in skateshop because they are in the skate catalog and some shops figured they would sell it’s honestly as simple as that.
You not liking something does not dictate its intended purpose.
Has anyone else here skated any “Vault” models? I got a pair of Style 73’s from Ross a while back and they were some of the best shoes I’ve had in recent years.A lot of the stuff from vault had some great quality. I found that they could be hit or miss in later years.
The sole’s durometer felt perfect to me and I loved the way the slightly higher tape flicked. Their quality compared to soles from the “classics” line are night and day.
.Vans has an amazing warranty, but at this point I'll just buy something else. Funny story, I bought a pair of LRAB off a friend and they immediately fell apart at the outsole and left my white socks with bright orange stains (normal with low quality suede). I emailed their CS, got a request to send photos over, and then after sending my address/email/photos was told that I could buy another pair at their website. Won't ever buy another pair again.
I know it is a pain to warranty anything, but they do have a good refund policy, from everything I have seen, people take pics, send them in and refund is given, but I guess it can be tiresome when it happens more often than it should.
There does seem to be a few more vulc tape separating issues than there used to be, but maybe not as many as I saw in the old Pro line of shoes, which would be almost every pair by the end of their life, if they made it that far. Some of those shoes would come apart in days, not weeks or months.
The user you're responding to said the following: "you’re very clearly talking out your ass and did a whole lot of mental gymnastics to come to the conclusion that these aren’t skate shoes". He disagreed with you on the point that these were not skate shoes. He was right on the point that the mixxa are a part of the skate-line and are being ordered by skate shops (I saw them in person yesterday and they have no heel cup).Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quoteno fashion person thinks vans is cool anymore lets be honest which is why the whole thing is severely off targetExpand QuoteI really don’t understand how you all don’t get it, but Vans isn’t making those shoes to appeal to us. They have their skate lines for people like us. They’re making those shoes to appeal to the fashion people buying bulky, tangentially skate inspired shoes from things like Balenciaga and people buying bulky shoes that aren’t skate inspired from brands like New Balance, Hoka, Brooks, etc. but don’t need the running-focused tech.
If they happen to sell some to the hypebeast, e-boys/e-girls, or TikTok skaters, that’s a bonus. But the people who are happy skating Half-Cabs, Old Skools, Eras, AVE2s, and Crocketts already have those shoes. That’s not who they are targeting with this stuff.[close][close]
Yeah, I know. That's because fashion people stopped liking Old Skools, Eras, Authentics, Sk8-His, etc. in preference for more bulky models which is why Vans is trying to make new models that look like those.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI really don’t understand how you all don’t get it, but Vans isn’t making those shoes to appeal to us. They have their skate lines for people like us. They’re making those shoes to appeal to the fashion people buying bulky, tangentially skate inspired shoes from things like Balenciaga and people buying bulky shoes that aren’t skate inspired from brands like New Balance, Hoka, Brooks, etc. but don’t need the running-focused tech.
If they happen to sell some to the hypebeast, e-boys/e-girls, or TikTok skaters, that’s a bonus. But the people who are happy skating Half-Cabs, Old Skools, Eras, AVE2s, and Crocketts already have those shoes. That’s not who they are targeting with this stuff.[close]
That’s what I would think too, but I’m seeing those models pop up on a few shop IGs today[close]
It's somewhat surprising, but not really. Vans still has those relationships in place, so it makes sense to still use them because they want these shoes in as many places as possible. And if they catch some skaters, it makes sense to grab them at skateshops and help skateshops make some money too. Depending on the shops, they might just be centrally located. Like in New York, Labor's Manhattan shop is dead center in one of the current coolest neighborhoods in the city that's packed every night and weekend with people hanging around outside, walking around to different stores / bars, chilling at the park. Vans wants their shoes there.
I'm not saying we have to loves these shoes, but it's just so obvious that these are designed with skaters as the secondary or third focus that it's ridiculous to be like "well, I wouldn't skate them." It's like "yeah, no shit - they're not made for us!"[close]
Not to be rude but you’re very clearly talking out your ass and did a whole lot of mental gymnastics to come to the conclusion that these aren’t skate shoes. These are in the skate line and Una is gonna get a Vans x Dime x Una colorway. I would put my money on these 100% being marketed towards skaters.
(https://i.ibb.co/YkQCFRZ/IMG-2444.jpg) (https://ibb.co/YkQCFRZ)
And I don’t think they would bother throwing all that tech into a shoe that “isn’t made for us”. I do agree they aren’t for the classic core classic vans skate line wearer, but there’s still room for other shoes in the vans line-up. These are in skateshop because they are in the skate catalog and some shops figured they would sell it’s honestly as simple as that.
You not liking something does not dictate its intended purpose.[close]
If by "talking out of my ass," you mean "extrapolating from market projections where VF has noted they're losing market share and missing sales targets while bringing in new executives at both the Vans (from Lululemon) and VF levels (from Logitech and who prices himself on producing more designs at a faster speed) and while fashion and industry analysts have mentioned how mainstream shoe tastes are moving away from Vans minimal styles to bulkier shoes with more tech, right before Vans releases a bunch of techier, bulkier shoes," then yep, I'm totally talking out of my ass.
A lot of the stuff from vault had some great quality. I found that they could be hit or miss in later years.Expand QuoteHas anyone else here skated any “Vault” models? I got a pair of Style 73’s from Ross a while back and they were some of the best shoes I’ve had in recent years.
The sole’s durometer felt perfect to me and I loved the way the slightly higher tape flicked. Their quality compared to soles from the “classics” line are night and day.[close]Vans has an amazing warranty, but at this point I'll just buy something else. Funny story, I bought a pair of LRAB off a friend and they immediately fell apart at the outsole and left my white socks with bright orange stains (normal with low quality suede). I emailed their CS, got a request to send photos over, and then after sending my address/email/photos was told that I could buy another pair at their website. Won't ever buy another pair again.Expand Quote.
I know it is a pain to warranty anything, but they do have a good refund policy, from everything I have seen, people take pics, send them in and refund is given, but I guess it can be tiresome when it happens more often than it should.
There does seem to be a few more vulc tape separating issues than there used to be, but maybe not as many as I saw in the old Pro line of shoes, which would be almost every pair by the end of their life, if they made it that far. Some of those shoes would come apart in days, not weeks or months.[close]The user you're responding to said the following: "you’re very clearly talking out your ass and did a whole lot of mental gymnastics to come to the conclusion that these aren’t skate shoes". He disagreed with you on the point that these were not skate shoes. He was right on the point that the mixxa are a part of the skate-line and are being ordered by skate shops (I saw them in person yesterday and they have no heel cup).Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quoteno fashion person thinks vans is cool anymore lets be honest which is why the whole thing is severely off targetExpand QuoteI really don’t understand how you all don’t get it, but Vans isn’t making those shoes to appeal to us. They have their skate lines for people like us. They’re making those shoes to appeal to the fashion people buying bulky, tangentially skate inspired shoes from things like Balenciaga and people buying bulky shoes that aren’t skate inspired from brands like New Balance, Hoka, Brooks, etc. but don’t need the running-focused tech.
If they happen to sell some to the hypebeast, e-boys/e-girls, or TikTok skaters, that’s a bonus. But the people who are happy skating Half-Cabs, Old Skools, Eras, AVE2s, and Crocketts already have those shoes. That’s not who they are targeting with this stuff.[close][close]
Yeah, I know. That's because fashion people stopped liking Old Skools, Eras, Authentics, Sk8-His, etc. in preference for more bulky models which is why Vans is trying to make new models that look like those.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI really don’t understand how you all don’t get it, but Vans isn’t making those shoes to appeal to us. They have their skate lines for people like us. They’re making those shoes to appeal to the fashion people buying bulky, tangentially skate inspired shoes from things like Balenciaga and people buying bulky shoes that aren’t skate inspired from brands like New Balance, Hoka, Brooks, etc. but don’t need the running-focused tech.
If they happen to sell some to the hypebeast, e-boys/e-girls, or TikTok skaters, that’s a bonus. But the people who are happy skating Half-Cabs, Old Skools, Eras, AVE2s, and Crocketts already have those shoes. That’s not who they are targeting with this stuff.[close]
That’s what I would think too, but I’m seeing those models pop up on a few shop IGs today[close]
It's somewhat surprising, but not really. Vans still has those relationships in place, so it makes sense to still use them because they want these shoes in as many places as possible. And if they catch some skaters, it makes sense to grab them at skateshops and help skateshops make some money too. Depending on the shops, they might just be centrally located. Like in New York, Labor's Manhattan shop is dead center in one of the current coolest neighborhoods in the city that's packed every night and weekend with people hanging around outside, walking around to different stores / bars, chilling at the park. Vans wants their shoes there.
I'm not saying we have to loves these shoes, but it's just so obvious that these are designed with skaters as the secondary or third focus that it's ridiculous to be like "well, I wouldn't skate them." It's like "yeah, no shit - they're not made for us!"[close]
Not to be rude but you’re very clearly talking out your ass and did a whole lot of mental gymnastics to come to the conclusion that these aren’t skate shoes. These are in the skate line and Una is gonna get a Vans x Dime x Una colorway. I would put my money on these 100% being marketed towards skaters.
(https://i.ibb.co/YkQCFRZ/IMG-2444.jpg) (https://ibb.co/YkQCFRZ)
And I don’t think they would bother throwing all that tech into a shoe that “isn’t made for us”. I do agree they aren’t for the classic core classic vans skate line wearer, but there’s still room for other shoes in the vans line-up. These are in skateshop because they are in the skate catalog and some shops figured they would sell it’s honestly as simple as that.
You not liking something does not dictate its intended purpose.[close]
If by "talking out of my ass," you mean "extrapolating from market projections where VF has noted they're losing market share and missing sales targets while bringing in new executives at both the Vans (from Lululemon) and VF levels (from Logitech and who prices himself on producing more designs at a faster speed) and while fashion and industry analysts have mentioned how mainstream shoe tastes are moving away from Vans minimal styles to bulkier shoes with more tech, right before Vans releases a bunch of techier, bulkier shoes," then yep, I'm totally talking out of my ass.[close]
Vans entire brand is tied into skateboarding. this has been a part of their ethos and identity longer than anything, their connection to the scene and importance within the industry is not understated. While you are arguing that these were not made for skaters, they clearly have designed all of these shoes with the same team (they share design cues). The sales pitch for these shoes uses skateboarding as a reference. We all know these are blatant attempts to cash-in very quickly on a trend from years ago, nobody was arguing that. If you make a shoe that is "skate-inspired", why would it be crazy to assume that maybe this is marketed to skaters?
Poured some concrete with them on so the suede looks kinda dusty. Put fresh laces on this morning, but they’re raw other than that. Think i got them in late April.Expand QuoteSize 9 here also. Had to get 9.5s but they fit and skated so nice. My feet love that sole.Expand QuoteDo the Rowan 2s run a little small? I’m a 9 and tried it at the store, my toes were touching the top of the shoe.[close]
Side tip - super gluing the high wear spots on the upper made them last so long. I was skating 4-5 times a week and they lasted all spring. Even still have a bit of life left, but the sole is starting to get thin and bust open. The duracap underneath the suede on the toe cap is strong as fuck, still haven't broken through that.
ugh gotta start paying attention to the sale gear thread again cause they are a pretty penny[close]
Show them skated. Always wanted to see it
Expand QuoteA lot of the stuff from vault had some great quality. I found that they could be hit or miss in later years.Expand QuoteHas anyone else here skated any “Vault” models? I got a pair of Style 73’s from Ross a while back and they were some of the best shoes I’ve had in recent years.
The sole’s durometer felt perfect to me and I loved the way the slightly higher tape flicked. Their quality compared to soles from the “classics” line are night and day.[close]Vans has an amazing warranty, but at this point I'll just buy something else. Funny story, I bought a pair of LRAB off a friend and they immediately fell apart at the outsole and left my white socks with bright orange stains (normal with low quality suede). I emailed their CS, got a request to send photos over, and then after sending my address/email/photos was told that I could buy another pair at their website. Won't ever buy another pair again.Expand Quote.
I know it is a pain to warranty anything, but they do have a good refund policy, from everything I have seen, people take pics, send them in and refund is given, but I guess it can be tiresome when it happens more often than it should.
There does seem to be a few more vulc tape separating issues than there used to be, but maybe not as many as I saw in the old Pro line of shoes, which would be almost every pair by the end of their life, if they made it that far. Some of those shoes would come apart in days, not weeks or months.[close]The user you're responding to said the following: "you’re very clearly talking out your ass and did a whole lot of mental gymnastics to come to the conclusion that these aren’t skate shoes". He disagreed with you on the point that these were not skate shoes. He was right on the point that the mixxa are a part of the skate-line and are being ordered by skate shops (I saw them in person yesterday and they have no heel cup).Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quoteno fashion person thinks vans is cool anymore lets be honest which is why the whole thing is severely off targetExpand QuoteI really don’t understand how you all don’t get it, but Vans isn’t making those shoes to appeal to us. They have their skate lines for people like us. They’re making those shoes to appeal to the fashion people buying bulky, tangentially skate inspired shoes from things like Balenciaga and people buying bulky shoes that aren’t skate inspired from brands like New Balance, Hoka, Brooks, etc. but don’t need the running-focused tech.
If they happen to sell some to the hypebeast, e-boys/e-girls, or TikTok skaters, that’s a bonus. But the people who are happy skating Half-Cabs, Old Skools, Eras, AVE2s, and Crocketts already have those shoes. That’s not who they are targeting with this stuff.[close][close]
Yeah, I know. That's because fashion people stopped liking Old Skools, Eras, Authentics, Sk8-His, etc. in preference for more bulky models which is why Vans is trying to make new models that look like those.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI really don’t understand how you all don’t get it, but Vans isn’t making those shoes to appeal to us. They have their skate lines for people like us. They’re making those shoes to appeal to the fashion people buying bulky, tangentially skate inspired shoes from things like Balenciaga and people buying bulky shoes that aren’t skate inspired from brands like New Balance, Hoka, Brooks, etc. but don’t need the running-focused tech.
If they happen to sell some to the hypebeast, e-boys/e-girls, or TikTok skaters, that’s a bonus. But the people who are happy skating Half-Cabs, Old Skools, Eras, AVE2s, and Crocketts already have those shoes. That’s not who they are targeting with this stuff.[close]
That’s what I would think too, but I’m seeing those models pop up on a few shop IGs today[close]
It's somewhat surprising, but not really. Vans still has those relationships in place, so it makes sense to still use them because they want these shoes in as many places as possible. And if they catch some skaters, it makes sense to grab them at skateshops and help skateshops make some money too. Depending on the shops, they might just be centrally located. Like in New York, Labor's Manhattan shop is dead center in one of the current coolest neighborhoods in the city that's packed every night and weekend with people hanging around outside, walking around to different stores / bars, chilling at the park. Vans wants their shoes there.
I'm not saying we have to loves these shoes, but it's just so obvious that these are designed with skaters as the secondary or third focus that it's ridiculous to be like "well, I wouldn't skate them." It's like "yeah, no shit - they're not made for us!"[close]
Not to be rude but you’re very clearly talking out your ass and did a whole lot of mental gymnastics to come to the conclusion that these aren’t skate shoes. These are in the skate line and Una is gonna get a Vans x Dime x Una colorway. I would put my money on these 100% being marketed towards skaters.
(https://i.ibb.co/YkQCFRZ/IMG-2444.jpg) (https://ibb.co/YkQCFRZ)
And I don’t think they would bother throwing all that tech into a shoe that “isn’t made for us”. I do agree they aren’t for the classic core classic vans skate line wearer, but there’s still room for other shoes in the vans line-up. These are in skateshop because they are in the skate catalog and some shops figured they would sell it’s honestly as simple as that.
You not liking something does not dictate its intended purpose.[close]
If by "talking out of my ass," you mean "extrapolating from market projections where VF has noted they're losing market share and missing sales targets while bringing in new executives at both the Vans (from Lululemon) and VF levels (from Logitech and who prices himself on producing more designs at a faster speed) and while fashion and industry analysts have mentioned how mainstream shoe tastes are moving away from Vans minimal styles to bulkier shoes with more tech, right before Vans releases a bunch of techier, bulkier shoes," then yep, I'm totally talking out of my ass.[close]
Vans entire brand is tied into skateboarding. this has been a part of their ethos and identity longer than anything, their connection to the scene and importance within the industry is not understated. While you are arguing that these were not made for skaters, they clearly have designed all of these shoes with the same team (they share design cues). The sales pitch for these shoes uses skateboarding as a reference. We all know these are blatant attempts to cash-in very quickly on a trend from years ago, nobody was arguing that. If you make a shoe that is "skate-inspired", why would it be crazy to assume that maybe this is marketed to skaters?[close]
Thank you for saying this more clearly and calmly than I may have. I do agree vans is trying to cash in on the current trends (which every publicly traded brand does) but I disagree that they are seeding these to certain skateshops and the whole narrative that the previous poster was going on about. You can extrapolate all you want and still be wrong and that’s fine, but don’t act like just because you thought about something really hard that you’re right. I work at a skateshop and know how these were sold to stores and it’s as simple as that.
(Edit)
I also agree that this is happening because “industry analysts have mentioned how mainstream shoe tastes are moving away from Vans minimal styles to bulkier shoes with more tech”. But this doesn’t change the fact that they were specifically designed with skateboarding as the main focus and were offered to every vans skate account as far as I can tell.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteA lot of the stuff from vault had some great quality. I found that they could be hit or miss in later years.Expand QuoteHas anyone else here skated any “Vault” models? I got a pair of Style 73’s from Ross a while back and they were some of the best shoes I’ve had in recent years.
The sole’s durometer felt perfect to me and I loved the way the slightly higher tape flicked. Their quality compared to soles from the “classics” line are night and day.[close]Vans has an amazing warranty, but at this point I'll just buy something else. Funny story, I bought a pair of LRAB off a friend and they immediately fell apart at the outsole and left my white socks with bright orange stains (normal with low quality suede). I emailed their CS, got a request to send photos over, and then after sending my address/email/photos was told that I could buy another pair at their website. Won't ever buy another pair again.Expand Quote.
I know it is a pain to warranty anything, but they do have a good refund policy, from everything I have seen, people take pics, send them in and refund is given, but I guess it can be tiresome when it happens more often than it should.
There does seem to be a few more vulc tape separating issues than there used to be, but maybe not as many as I saw in the old Pro line of shoes, which would be almost every pair by the end of their life, if they made it that far. Some of those shoes would come apart in days, not weeks or months.[close]The user you're responding to said the following: "you’re very clearly talking out your ass and did a whole lot of mental gymnastics to come to the conclusion that these aren’t skate shoes". He disagreed with you on the point that these were not skate shoes. He was right on the point that the mixxa are a part of the skate-line and are being ordered by skate shops (I saw them in person yesterday and they have no heel cup).Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quoteno fashion person thinks vans is cool anymore lets be honest which is why the whole thing is severely off targetExpand QuoteI really don’t understand how you all don’t get it, but Vans isn’t making those shoes to appeal to us. They have their skate lines for people like us. They’re making those shoes to appeal to the fashion people buying bulky, tangentially skate inspired shoes from things like Balenciaga and people buying bulky shoes that aren’t skate inspired from brands like New Balance, Hoka, Brooks, etc. but don’t need the running-focused tech.
If they happen to sell some to the hypebeast, e-boys/e-girls, or TikTok skaters, that’s a bonus. But the people who are happy skating Half-Cabs, Old Skools, Eras, AVE2s, and Crocketts already have those shoes. That’s not who they are targeting with this stuff.[close][close]
Yeah, I know. That's because fashion people stopped liking Old Skools, Eras, Authentics, Sk8-His, etc. in preference for more bulky models which is why Vans is trying to make new models that look like those.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI really don’t understand how you all don’t get it, but Vans isn’t making those shoes to appeal to us. They have their skate lines for people like us. They’re making those shoes to appeal to the fashion people buying bulky, tangentially skate inspired shoes from things like Balenciaga and people buying bulky shoes that aren’t skate inspired from brands like New Balance, Hoka, Brooks, etc. but don’t need the running-focused tech.
If they happen to sell some to the hypebeast, e-boys/e-girls, or TikTok skaters, that’s a bonus. But the people who are happy skating Half-Cabs, Old Skools, Eras, AVE2s, and Crocketts already have those shoes. That’s not who they are targeting with this stuff.[close]
That’s what I would think too, but I’m seeing those models pop up on a few shop IGs today[close]
It's somewhat surprising, but not really. Vans still has those relationships in place, so it makes sense to still use them because they want these shoes in as many places as possible. And if they catch some skaters, it makes sense to grab them at skateshops and help skateshops make some money too. Depending on the shops, they might just be centrally located. Like in New York, Labor's Manhattan shop is dead center in one of the current coolest neighborhoods in the city that's packed every night and weekend with people hanging around outside, walking around to different stores / bars, chilling at the park. Vans wants their shoes there.
I'm not saying we have to loves these shoes, but it's just so obvious that these are designed with skaters as the secondary or third focus that it's ridiculous to be like "well, I wouldn't skate them." It's like "yeah, no shit - they're not made for us!"[close]
Not to be rude but you’re very clearly talking out your ass and did a whole lot of mental gymnastics to come to the conclusion that these aren’t skate shoes. These are in the skate line and Una is gonna get a Vans x Dime x Una colorway. I would put my money on these 100% being marketed towards skaters.
(https://i.ibb.co/YkQCFRZ/IMG-2444.jpg) (https://ibb.co/YkQCFRZ)
And I don’t think they would bother throwing all that tech into a shoe that “isn’t made for us”. I do agree they aren’t for the classic core classic vans skate line wearer, but there’s still room for other shoes in the vans line-up. These are in skateshop because they are in the skate catalog and some shops figured they would sell it’s honestly as simple as that.
You not liking something does not dictate its intended purpose.[close]
If by "talking out of my ass," you mean "extrapolating from market projections where VF has noted they're losing market share and missing sales targets while bringing in new executives at both the Vans (from Lululemon) and VF levels (from Logitech and who prices himself on producing more designs at a faster speed) and while fashion and industry analysts have mentioned how mainstream shoe tastes are moving away from Vans minimal styles to bulkier shoes with more tech, right before Vans releases a bunch of techier, bulkier shoes," then yep, I'm totally talking out of my ass.[close]
Vans entire brand is tied into skateboarding. this has been a part of their ethos and identity longer than anything, their connection to the scene and importance within the industry is not understated. While you are arguing that these were not made for skaters, they clearly have designed all of these shoes with the same team (they share design cues). The sales pitch for these shoes uses skateboarding as a reference. We all know these are blatant attempts to cash-in very quickly on a trend from years ago, nobody was arguing that. If you make a shoe that is "skate-inspired", why would it be crazy to assume that maybe this is marketed to skaters?[close]
Thank you for saying this more clearly and calmly than I may have. I do agree vans is trying to cash in on the current trends (which every publicly traded brand does) but I disagree that they are seeding these to certain skateshops and the whole narrative that the previous poster was going on about. You can extrapolate all you want and still be wrong and that’s fine, but don’t act like just because you thought about something really hard that you’re right. I work at a skateshop and know how these were sold to stores and it’s as simple as that.
(Edit)
I also agree that this is happening because “industry analysts have mentioned how mainstream shoe tastes are moving away from Vans minimal styles to bulkier shoes with more tech”. But this doesn’t change the fact that they were specifically designed with skateboarding as the main focus and were offered to every vans skate account as far as I can tell.[close]
I never said they weren't skate shoes or weren't skateable. I said that selling these to core skater markets isn't their focus and I stand by that, regardless of whether they allow skate shops to order and sell these or whatever shop reps say. All of that does exactly what Bracken Darrell said about trying to maintain and recapture the countercultural cool and appeal that they've had historically (mostly from skating) while also trying to stay on trend.
And I say this as someone who works in market research and has worked with a range of shoe companies trying to figure out how to capture new audiences as they see their sales decline because mainstream audiences aren't buying minimal, thin shoes anymore.
Yeah at the end of the day skateboarding will always have a place for vulc shoes. Guy’s Mouse part is mostly Vans. Gonz Video Days has lots of sk8 his. Carroll in half cabs.
The guy you're responding to is so clearly full of shit. The chunky shoe thing has been a trend since way before the pandemic, and ironically most of the trending shoes seem to be pretty slim. This is just consumerist mumbojumbo. Nobody is buying vans because they're chunky and blocky shoes, except some morons influenced by tiktok.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteA lot of the stuff from vault had some great quality. I found that they could be hit or miss in later years.Expand QuoteHas anyone else here skated any “Vault” models? I got a pair of Style 73’s from Ross a while back and they were some of the best shoes I’ve had in recent years.
The sole’s durometer felt perfect to me and I loved the way the slightly higher tape flicked. Their quality compared to soles from the “classics” line are night and day.[close]Vans has an amazing warranty, but at this point I'll just buy something else. Funny story, I bought a pair of LRAB off a friend and they immediately fell apart at the outsole and left my white socks with bright orange stains (normal with low quality suede). I emailed their CS, got a request to send photos over, and then after sending my address/email/photos was told that I could buy another pair at their website. Won't ever buy another pair again.Expand Quote.
I know it is a pain to warranty anything, but they do have a good refund policy, from everything I have seen, people take pics, send them in and refund is given, but I guess it can be tiresome when it happens more often than it should.
There does seem to be a few more vulc tape separating issues than there used to be, but maybe not as many as I saw in the old Pro line of shoes, which would be almost every pair by the end of their life, if they made it that far. Some of those shoes would come apart in days, not weeks or months.[close]The user you're responding to said the following: "you’re very clearly talking out your ass and did a whole lot of mental gymnastics to come to the conclusion that these aren’t skate shoes". He disagreed with you on the point that these were not skate shoes. He was right on the point that the mixxa are a part of the skate-line and are being ordered by skate shops (I saw them in person yesterday and they have no heel cup).Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quoteno fashion person thinks vans is cool anymore lets be honest which is why the whole thing is severely off targetExpand QuoteI really don’t understand how you all don’t get it, but Vans isn’t making those shoes to appeal to us. They have their skate lines for people like us. They’re making those shoes to appeal to the fashion people buying bulky, tangentially skate inspired shoes from things like Balenciaga and people buying bulky shoes that aren’t skate inspired from brands like New Balance, Hoka, Brooks, etc. but don’t need the running-focused tech.
If they happen to sell some to the hypebeast, e-boys/e-girls, or TikTok skaters, that’s a bonus. But the people who are happy skating Half-Cabs, Old Skools, Eras, AVE2s, and Crocketts already have those shoes. That’s not who they are targeting with this stuff.[close][close]
Yeah, I know. That's because fashion people stopped liking Old Skools, Eras, Authentics, Sk8-His, etc. in preference for more bulky models which is why Vans is trying to make new models that look like those.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI really don’t understand how you all don’t get it, but Vans isn’t making those shoes to appeal to us. They have their skate lines for people like us. They’re making those shoes to appeal to the fashion people buying bulky, tangentially skate inspired shoes from things like Balenciaga and people buying bulky shoes that aren’t skate inspired from brands like New Balance, Hoka, Brooks, etc. but don’t need the running-focused tech.
If they happen to sell some to the hypebeast, e-boys/e-girls, or TikTok skaters, that’s a bonus. But the people who are happy skating Half-Cabs, Old Skools, Eras, AVE2s, and Crocketts already have those shoes. That’s not who they are targeting with this stuff.[close]
That’s what I would think too, but I’m seeing those models pop up on a few shop IGs today[close]
It's somewhat surprising, but not really. Vans still has those relationships in place, so it makes sense to still use them because they want these shoes in as many places as possible. And if they catch some skaters, it makes sense to grab them at skateshops and help skateshops make some money too. Depending on the shops, they might just be centrally located. Like in New York, Labor's Manhattan shop is dead center in one of the current coolest neighborhoods in the city that's packed every night and weekend with people hanging around outside, walking around to different stores / bars, chilling at the park. Vans wants their shoes there.
I'm not saying we have to loves these shoes, but it's just so obvious that these are designed with skaters as the secondary or third focus that it's ridiculous to be like "well, I wouldn't skate them." It's like "yeah, no shit - they're not made for us!"[close]
Not to be rude but you’re very clearly talking out your ass and did a whole lot of mental gymnastics to come to the conclusion that these aren’t skate shoes. These are in the skate line and Una is gonna get a Vans x Dime x Una colorway. I would put my money on these 100% being marketed towards skaters.
(https://i.ibb.co/YkQCFRZ/IMG-2444.jpg) (https://ibb.co/YkQCFRZ)
And I don’t think they would bother throwing all that tech into a shoe that “isn’t made for us”. I do agree they aren’t for the classic core classic vans skate line wearer, but there’s still room for other shoes in the vans line-up. These are in skateshop because they are in the skate catalog and some shops figured they would sell it’s honestly as simple as that.
You not liking something does not dictate its intended purpose.[close]
If by "talking out of my ass," you mean "extrapolating from market projections where VF has noted they're losing market share and missing sales targets while bringing in new executives at both the Vans (from Lululemon) and VF levels (from Logitech and who prices himself on producing more designs at a faster speed) and while fashion and industry analysts have mentioned how mainstream shoe tastes are moving away from Vans minimal styles to bulkier shoes with more tech, right before Vans releases a bunch of techier, bulkier shoes," then yep, I'm totally talking out of my ass.[close]
Vans entire brand is tied into skateboarding. this has been a part of their ethos and identity longer than anything, their connection to the scene and importance within the industry is not understated. While you are arguing that these were not made for skaters, they clearly have designed all of these shoes with the same team (they share design cues). The sales pitch for these shoes uses skateboarding as a reference. We all know these are blatant attempts to cash-in very quickly on a trend from years ago, nobody was arguing that. If you make a shoe that is "skate-inspired", why would it be crazy to assume that maybe this is marketed to skaters?[close]
Thank you for saying this more clearly and calmly than I may have. I do agree vans is trying to cash in on the current trends (which every publicly traded brand does) but I disagree that they are seeding these to certain skateshops and the whole narrative that the previous poster was going on about. You can extrapolate all you want and still be wrong and that’s fine, but don’t act like just because you thought about something really hard that you’re right. I work at a skateshop and know how these were sold to stores and it’s as simple as that.
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I also agree that this is happening because “industry analysts have mentioned how mainstream shoe tastes are moving away from Vans minimal styles to bulkier shoes with more tech”. But this doesn’t change the fact that they were specifically designed with skateboarding as the main focus and were offered to every vans skate account as far as I can tell.[close]
I never said they weren't skate shoes or weren't skateable. I said that selling these to core skater markets isn't their focus and I stand by that, regardless of whether they allow skate shops to order and sell these or whatever shop reps say. All of that does exactly what Bracken Darrell said about trying to maintain and recapture the countercultural cool and appeal that they've had historically (mostly from skating) while also trying to stay on trend.
And I say this as someone who works in market research and has worked with a range of shoe companies trying to figure out how to capture new audiences as they see their sales decline because mainstream audiences aren't buying minimal, thin shoes anymore.[close]
Wut? Adidas Samba is literally THE shoe of the moment.
Expand QuoteYeah at the end of the day skateboarding will always have a place for vulc shoes. Guy’s Mouse part is mostly Vans. Gonz Video Days has lots of sk8 his. Carroll in half cabs.[close]
I skated half cabs exclusively until they changed them, I just want the classic halfcab no popcush, no skate edition or pro edition, no centering straps, no mushy ass insole, give me the classic sticky halfcab, so tired of them messing with perfection
Yeah, the Samba is on trend now because trends change. They’re an outlier compared to the relative dominance of things like Hoka that have been cleaning house for years. The trends are flexing and moving again. That’s what trends do. There’s more of a middle ground and diversity than those years where mostly big, chunky shoes were dominating the market.not sure why you keep bringing up hoka. most people arent buying hokas because theyre trendy, they buy them because theyre comfortable. a "chunky" soled mesh runner is not in the same category as a chunky skate shoe.
thehogsniper - I’m not saying people are buying chunky Vans shoes just because Vans are making them. I’m saying that’s what’s influencing those designs because they realized that there was a style that they were ignoring.
I’m not saying Vans is on the right timeline either or succeeding. They might be releasing these big shoes too late. I’m just saying it’s clear what they’re doing.
And you say “influenced by TikTok” as if that isn’t the thing that every marketing vertical or person who signs off budget isn’t pointing at when they tell the people they give budgets to to draw inspiration from. You might be too cool for this shit to work on but you’re not one of those people making those decisions.
Dude, what? Hoka not trendy? Are you serious? It's THE [gym] shoe, since 2023. Literally HOKA and ON are the trendiest athletic shoes you can get right (in a market where other shoes perform better).alright we get it bro you lift but thats still a very different market than vans
I'd say the bullk of shoes in my gym by people who don't know how to work out wear HOKA; fools out there trying to deadlift with 3" EVA soles...it's as bad as old white guys wearing NB walkers...
It's not word of mouth "these are so comfy bro, you should get some" that's making these trend. Seriously, if it was about that, Schechers would be making a comback.
Im not always sold on how they look but the first Rowans were good. No issues with those. I had a couple pairs of skate eras and yeah the sole separated from the upper on both from just walking around in them.
skated some ave 2.0s yesterday, .5 size up. easy first day on board, so i’ll be surprised if they last. arch is very narrow, my feet used to have narrow arches, and now they don’t. didn’t bother me. tts i was losing feeling.
bought them for the color. too much money for what they are, but not a bad shoe. i really liked the ave pro tho, so yeah.
not nearly as robust as my 808s, but wanted to switch it up.
A LOt of compliments, due to the color.
hoka is mostly popular with late 20s early 30s white women and their metrosexual boyfriends, which is not as huge of a demographic as you might think. on the other hand i'll leave the house and see 10 colorways of sambas and spezials within 5 minutes. i still see a lot more of those knu skools than fucking hokas but of course that is the shoe to have right now. cmon guys take a look outside your office for once
Expand Quotehoka is mostly popular with late 20s early 30s white women and their metrosexual boyfriends, which is not as huge of a demographic as you might think. on the other hand i'll leave the house and see 10 colorways of sambas and spezials within 5 minutes. i still see a lot more of those knu skools than fucking hokas but of course that is the shoe to have right now. cmon guys take a look outside your office for once[close]
ive been traveling in Asia this past month - korea, vietnam, thailand and now malaysia - the amount of vans is up there with chuck taylors, adidas etc.
hoka is mostly popular with late 20s early 30s white women and their metrosexual boyfriends, which is not as huge of a demographic as you might think. on the other hand i'll leave the house and see 10 colorways of sambas and spezials within 5 minutes. i still see a lot more of those knu skools than fucking hokas but of course that is the shoe to have right now. cmon guys take a look outside your office for once
not sure why you keep bringing up hoka. most people arent buying hokas because theyre trendy, they buy them because theyre comfortable. a "chunky" soled mesh runner is not in the same category as a chunky skate shoe.Expand QuoteYeah, the Samba is on trend now because trends change. They’re an outlier compared to the relative dominance of things like Hoka that have been cleaning house for years. The trends are flexing and moving again. That’s what trends do. There’s more of a middle ground and diversity than those years where mostly big, chunky shoes were dominating the market.
thehogsniper - I’m not saying people are buying chunky Vans shoes just because Vans are making them. I’m saying that’s what’s influencing those designs because they realized that there was a style that they were ignoring.
I’m not saying Vans is on the right timeline either or succeeding. They might be releasing these big shoes too late. I’m just saying it’s clear what they’re doing.
And you say “influenced by TikTok” as if that isn’t the thing that every marketing vertical or person who signs off budget isn’t pointing at when they tell the people they give budgets to to draw inspiration from. You might be too cool for this shit to work on but you’re not one of those people making those decisions.[close]
hoka and vans are two completely different sets of products and markets that have limited connection, outside of the fact that they both make shoes. hoka has explosive growth because of the quality of their product and who they aim their footwear at. I argue that this remains the reason that people buy their shoes, because the appearance of their footwear is absolutely hideous. Positive word of mouth influences people to seek out and try something different, they enjoy their Hoka's and then reinforce this to other people. This is the backbone of how Hoka and On were able to drive growth, as the actual technology and comfortability of the footwear was the central focus instead of the appearance or hot new collab. They spent years building up a good foundation.Expand Quotenot sure why you keep bringing up hoka. most people arent buying hokas because theyre trendy, they buy them because theyre comfortable. a "chunky" soled mesh runner is not in the same category as a chunky skate shoe.Expand QuoteYeah, the Samba is on trend now because trends change. They’re an outlier compared to the relative dominance of things like Hoka that have been cleaning house for years. The trends are flexing and moving again. That’s what trends do. There’s more of a middle ground and diversity than those years where mostly big, chunky shoes were dominating the market.
thehogsniper - I’m not saying people are buying chunky Vans shoes just because Vans are making them. I’m saying that’s what’s influencing those designs because they realized that there was a style that they were ignoring.
I’m not saying Vans is on the right timeline either or succeeding. They might be releasing these big shoes too late. I’m just saying it’s clear what they’re doing.
And you say “influenced by TikTok” as if that isn’t the thing that every marketing vertical or person who signs off budget isn’t pointing at when they tell the people they give budgets to to draw inspiration from. You might be too cool for this shit to work on but you’re not one of those people making those decisions.[close][close]
Because Hoka had explosive growth over the past 5 to 10 years while being built in a way that's completely unlike Vans's classic models. Initial interest was driven by their technical advantages, but that growth then caused them to become even more popular and trendy as more people see them everywhere and decide to buy them, whether they need the technical benefits or not. Things can become "trendy" for legitimate, functional reasons. It doesn't change the fact they they're trendy.
In skating, thin vulc shoes became trendy because they offered better board feel and experience than the puffy bricks in the early 2000s and then thicker cupsoles became trendy because they offered more protection than the hyper-minimalistic vulcs. That functionality / specific benefits drove the initial adoption doesn't change the fact that they became trends.
OK...?
Vans IS actually playing against Nike, Hoka, On, Adidas, New Balance, Puma, Asics, etc. because that's the size they are as a brand while they're also playing against Nike SB, NB#, the skate divisions at Converse, Adidas, Asics, Sole Tech, Lakai, etc.
Vans and Hoka (to use them as an case study, but replace Hoka with On, Puma, or any of the non-skate branches of Nike, Adidas, New Balance, Asics, etc. Fuck, even compare them to Crocs which are replacing Vans as the cozy chillers for people who are on their feet all day) are direct competitors outside of the skate market with major brand connections.
They overlap a lot in the sense that they're brands who came up based around edge users that are hyper focused on the tech benefits of their shoes and then they have secondary and tertiary audiences of mainstream, non-hyper athletic users that want cool, comfortable shoes even though they don't take full advantage of all of the tech in them. Historically, skaters are the edge users driving Vans tech and cool factor while trailer runners and hikers are driving Hoka's tech and cool factor. Both of those brands have built their brand identities around those edge users and seen that impact and cool factor trickle into mainstream, non-hyper athletic audiences' buying their products.
I'm not sure why you seem to think that people only buy things because they have a direct, functional benefit to the buyer but, come on - we all know that's not true. People often buy shit just because they see it a lot and assume that must mean it's worth buying or so they seem in the know. People buy shit because they think it's cool and why they think it's cool can have a variety of reasons (one cool colorway, the right person wears it one time, one person in one outfit makes it look cool). People buy things for many reasons outside of word of mouth. Word of mouth definitely had an impact on why Hoka and On exploded but it wasn't the only reason.
Vans was dominating a lot more than a brand like Hoka was for a long time and that has changed.
In both cases, that mainstream audience isn't taking advantage of the tech and other benefits that Vans and Hoka built their shoes and brand identity around. That mainstream, non-hyper athletic audience is buying on-trend shoes that maybe became popular because of the edge cases that then pushed those brands into the mainstream. That doesn't mean that technology suddenly goes away from the manufacturing process or the shoes that are getting made and are selling out (but it can!). But it does mean that that mainstream, non-hyper athletic audience (which is way larger than the edge case) is buying shit without caring much or actively paying attention to the technology.
As such, minor tweaks to the tech aren't going to make drastic changes to the audience. So we're nerding out around all of the tech changes between Vans' different lines and pro models because it directly impacts our experiences skating the shoes. But skating is a large, but still niche audience. It's an audience Vans cares a lot about and wants to cultivate and doesn't want to abandon, for sure. But we know that VF as a whole and Vans as a company is missing financial goals and targets and it's scaring stockholders. That's why they just sold Supreme. And one reason why Vans is missing those targets is a shift in MAINSTREAM TRENDS away from slim, minimalistic shoes like the Old Skool, Era, etc. Even the Samba and Spezial have more heft to them than those models. So now (and has been for a few years), Vans is trying to find a way to react to the changing market by creating shoes that feel more in line with the market while still feeling like Vans shoes and still playing off of the parts of the brand they don't want to give up (their outsider skater / surfer / punk music history, for example). Not wanting to give up the skater edge and not wanting to piss off skaters is why they're going to also give skaters who do want to skate these models options to do colorways and give skateshops the option to book them. It probably also makes things easier for the higher-ups while costing them nothing to do so.
You don't have to like it. You don't have to like the designs. No one on here does. I'm just saying that this is clearly what is happening.
i heard vans heads read all your posts and this is supposed to be the lifesaver
(https://i.imgur.com/Z2Q7zNl.png)
Expand Quotei heard vans heads read all your posts and this is supposed to be the lifesaver
(https://i.imgur.com/Z2Q7zNl.png)[close]
That already exists...
(https://static.ftshp.digital/img/p/1/0/0/1/3/9/5/1001395.jpg)
Vans does all those shoes that are supposed to compete with the big sporty brands already, thing is I don't think anyone would consider their offering at the same level as said sportswear brands.
When people think about Vans they think skate/Lifestyle and they can either use that as their strength or keep living in denial and try to make all this random product that no one really asked them to do (other than the big guys in suits making the calls). Vans would probably be better if they had a sub-brand only for sport stuff and stay laser focus on what they're known for.
Jesus some of you take this stuff way too seriously. Writing full essays about brands and the market lolI mean, we are all nerds on a niche internet forum that most people haven't heard of
Maybe. Unless they get sold off to some outside company that decides they don’t care about skating and sells it off for parts. Supreme was just sold off.to be fair supreme was sold off because vans is doing bad. at this point VF is pretty synonymous with Vans and TNF so they would have to collapse all together for that to happen.
Oh noImagine that right now I'm taking a dump (like most of you) and what stinks more in here is not what's going out of my asshole.
Anyone have an image of curren’s new pro shoe?
I think he was wearing the Rowan 2’s during the hunt jam, atleast what the toe box looked likeExpand QuoteAnyone have an image of curren’s new pro shoe?[close]
I tried to pause/zoom on the Bunt Jam footage and it looks like a half-cab but I’ve never seen him in a half-cab before so…?
Expand QuoteAnyone have an image of curren’s new pro shoe?[close]
I tried to pause/zoom on the Bunt Jam footage and it looks like a half-cab but I’ve never seen him in a half-cab before so…?
Curren is getting a pro model? I didn't not expect that.I heard the vendors are showing samples to stores now, probably will be available winter or spring
Curren is getting a pro model? I didn't not expect that.he is but it’s not that
I heard the vendors are showing samples to stores now, probably will be available winter or springExpand QuoteCurren is getting a pro model? I didn't not expect that.[close]
Good to know hes getting a pro model. Hes sick.So it’s the Palace shoe blacked out/white stitching??
Hope its a great design.
Those are giving off Globe vibes.Imagine that right now I'm taking a dump (like most of you) and what stinks more in here is not what's going out of my asshole.Expand QuoteOh no[close]
Poop or Vans?Those are giving off Globe vibes.Expand QuoteImagine that right now I'm taking a dump (like most of you) and what stinks more in here is not what's going out of my asshole.Expand QuoteOh no[close][close]
Never thought I’d see Slap excited about anything Curren related, much less stoked he’s getting a pro model. But I guess good for him.
Expand QuoteNever thought I’d see Slap excited about anything Curren related, much less stoked he’s getting a pro model. But I guess good for him.[close]
He’s kinda wiggled his way into our collective hearts.
Sorta like how we all kinda seem to back && now.
How wouldnt you like him.
Have u seen his kickflip on the bunt thing?
Expand QuoteNever thought I’d see Slap excited about anything Curren related, much less stoked he’s getting a pro model. But I guess good for him.[close]
He’s kinda wiggled his way into our collective hearts.
Sorta like how we all kinda seem to back && now.
I also don’t like Andy.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteNever thought I’d see Slap excited about anything Curren related, much less stoked he’s getting a pro model. But I guess good for him.[close]
He’s kinda wiggled his way into our collective hearts.
Sorta like how we all kinda seem to back && now.[close]
We?
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteNever thought I’d see Slap excited about anything Curren related, much less stoked he’s getting a pro model. But I guess good for him.[close]
He’s kinda wiggled his way into our collective hearts.
Sorta like how we all kinda seem to back && now.[close]
We?
^thisExpand QuoteExpand QuoteNever thought I’d see Slap excited about anything Curren related, much less stoked he’s getting a pro model. But I guess good for him.[close]
He’s kinda wiggled his way into our collective hearts.
Sorta like how we all kinda seem to back && now.[close]
curren yes, andy no.
How wouldnt you like him.
Have u seen his kickflip on the bunt thing?
Expand QuoteHow wouldnt you like him.
Have u seen his kickflip on the bunt thing?[close]
No. Because I don't like his skating, despite how many times he tries to get cooler and cooler people to vouch for him. It didn't work when Rowley said it, it didn't work when Koston said it, it hasn't worked now that AVE and Dill say it.
^thisExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteNever thought I’d see Slap excited about anything Curren related, much less stoked he’s getting a pro model. But I guess good for him.[close]
He’s kinda wiggled his way into our collective hearts.
Sorta like how we all kinda seem to back && now.[close]
curren yes, andy no.[close]
Pretty stoked about a Curren pro model even tho I'll never buy it. Btw what was the last pro model that wasn't ave? Maybe Lizzie's?
Tell us how they look
Expand QuoteTell us how they look[close]
it looks a lot like the Nike Sb Malor with a one piece toe box / ollie pad
sorry playing catch up here but are vans actually coming out with a half cab low? or did I misread somethin
Expand Quotesorry playing catch up here but are vans actually coming out with a half cab low? or did I misread somethin[close]
I mean kinda, the safe low was a collab with palace, seems more colors are coming out though
Expand QuoteExpand Quotesorry playing catch up here but are vans actually coming out with a half cab low? or did I misread somethin[close]
I mean kinda, the safe low was a collab with palace, seems more colors are coming out though[close]
Safe low was a Carroll plus half cab as a low.
How about this cw?
How about this cw?it's like a rejected DC shoe design that Vans got a hold of. something from THPS 1
it's like a rejected DC shoe design that Vans got a hold of. something from THPS 1Expand QuoteHow about this cw?[close]
From a design perspective it's very strange because they invested time and energy into tech (from the pop-cush in virtually every vulc skate shoe to the vr3-cush in the rowan 2) and this shoe has none of that. the shoe looks like crap in person, they couldn't figure out how to put an insole in without the foam showing, the rubber molding is sloppy, they made the interior contrasting colors which only exposes the shoddy worksmanship. Just a weird thing, but it's kinda reflective that people aren't doing their jobs effectively.Expand Quoteit's like a rejected DC shoe design that Vans got a hold of. something from THPS 1Expand QuoteHow about this cw?[close][close]
Yeah they remind me of the 2000s era shoes (or clothing or other things) with the colour highlights, especially the yellow / blue, or the red / black, or I guess the mid blue / grey / black as per that shoe that I seem to recall seeing a lot of in various things back then.
Maybe with everything else going on, someone somewhere thinks this is a good time to bring it all back?
I definitely remember seeing it with the more tech type shoes, eg DC and eS with Koston and others doing the two tshirts that matched the shoes.
Any Vans employees/ stockists got the downlow on when we will see a re-issue of the Skate Sk8 lows?
Any Vans employees/ stockists got the downlow on when we will see a re-issue of the Skate Sk8 lows?
Expand QuoteAny Vans employees/ stockists got the downlow on when we will see a re-issue of the Skate Sk8 lows?[close]
the only thing i know is it's not the case for F24 and S25
This is a weird one.
I see nothing in both catalogs but l’m wondering if this shoe ever landed in France. It's been discussed multiple times here for a couple years and i've never seen the model on the B2B tool we use to order / preorder.
I want a pair
Expand QuoteAny Vans employees/ stockists got the downlow on when we will see a re-issue of the Skate Sk8 lows?[close]
the only thing i know is it's not the case for F24 and S25
Any Vans employees/ stockists got the downlow on when we will see a re-issue of the Skate Sk8 lows?
Expand QuoteAny Vans employees/ stockists got the downlow on when we will see a re-issue of the Skate Sk8 lows?[close]
I am skating these right now, and my suggestion is don't bother.
Expand QuoteAny Vans employees/ stockists got the downlow on when we will see a re-issue of the Skate Sk8 lows?[close]
I am skating these right now, and my suggestion is don't bother.
I will never understand why they havent make a skate version of this model yet?
They should ve made an Era Mid.
And a rowan 2 (proper) mid
Mids are sick
Expand QuoteI will never understand why they havent make a skate version of this model yet?[close]
They haven’t done a line for teenage superheroes?
They need to do a collab with Neil Young and release a shoe called Vans Down By The River.
They need to do a collab with Neil Young and release a shoe called Vans Down By The River.
Expand QuoteThey need to do a collab with Neil Young and release a shoe called Vans Down By The River.[close]
Or Matt Foley
I will never understand why they havent make a skate version of this model yet?I would actually skate those assuming they didn't weigh as much as vans other cupsoles.
GotchuExpand QuoteThey need to do a collab with Neil Young and release a shoe called Vans Down By The River.[close]
Gnar this Mongo for me, someone please
I mean they are the classic models with a "cup sole"
One would expect people would try those.
Have anyone ever tried skating the BMX models ?
The old skool and the sk8 hi one?
They seem to have some kind of cupsole. I'm not a nerd for shoes specs, most of them are mkt gimmicks but i would like some insights
Probably wrong thread.
Expand QuoteHave anyone ever tried skating the BMX models ?
The old skool and the sk8 hi one?
They seem to have some kind of cupsole. I'm not a nerd for shoes specs, most of them are mkt gimmicks but i would like some insights
Probably wrong thread.[close]
i tried the bmx sk8-hi's two years ago. the rubber compound for the outsole is softer than the skate lines. they mushed out pretty quickly compared to skate sk8-hi's or crocketts. outsole didn't feel as grippy as other skate models. they skated fine but i wouldn't buy them again. i foolishly bought a pair of the bmx slip on's to hang out in and tbh they look like old people shoes without the foxing stripe.
these ones. i thought they looked cool but tbh i didn't like them as much as the skate models.
(https://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFgxNjAw/z/~uEAAOSw8LRjfwyt/$_57.JPG?set_id=880000500F)
https://www.vans.co.uk/shop/en-gb/vans-gb/speed-ls-utility-loden-vn000ctnldnInteresting.
Not sure if these have been posted. They look decent, the pair I seen didn't have the elastic for the tongue but not sure they are all like that as that pair had no info on the tongue, but they felt solid on.
Maybe they ain't a 'skate' model
speed LS has been out for a while now, hit the outlet shelfs months ago. At least the better part of this year, I'd say.
anyone know if there is a version of the half cab that has less padding around the ankles? love skating in half-cabs but the ankle padding is too bulky for me :p
thought about trying the villani 417 but new balance logo is just too dad-core
Expand Quoteanyone know if there is a version of the half cab that has less padding around the ankles? love skating in half-cabs but the ankle padding is too bulky for me :p
thought about trying the villani 417 but new balance logo is just too dad-core[close]
I feel like all of them have a fair bit of ankle padding, maybe the black / white Skate edition could have been the softest feeling, when I tried them on, but they often split at the back too, which might also lessen the tight ankle feeling.
For a different shoe, the Sk8 Mid has been really good, or at least a pair I have been wearing lately, but I don't see them in quantities I would consider easily accessible, so that might not be so good.
I have seen the Sk8 Hi cut down quite often and even did that to an old pair I had not too long ago, which worked really well and made the shoe so much more wearable for me now, so that could even be an option for you, if you don't mind a little DIY to your shoes.
https://www.instagram.com/p/DAfN4wcpePV/
Thanks for the thoughtfull response :)
I tend to get blisters on sk8 hi/lo where side panels are stitched to the toe panel.
I just really like the contours of the contrast stitching on halfcabs. lovely aesthetic.
maybe they'll make a half cab decon someday, that would be rad
i opened up an old pair of halfcabs, removed the foam ankle inserts then sewed them back up. unfortunately they were just too floppy but it was worth a shot
currently skating a couple pairs of HUF classic hi so i can pretend i'm in SF :p
Have any of you tried those Skate Rowley 25th Anniversary shoes? How are they?
Never had a pair back in the day and kinda want one now but I hate the idea of supporting Rowley. Hhmmm...
https://www.vans.co.uk/shop/en-gb/vans-gb/men/skate-rowley-25th-navy-white-vn0a2z3onav
Thanks.
Have any of you tried those Skate Rowley 25th Anniversary shoes? How are they?Can't be specific but a homie has them and really like them. And asked me to order a new pair.
Never had a pair back in the day and kinda want one now but I hate the idea of supporting Rowley. Hhmmm...
https://www.vans.co.uk/shop/en-gb/vans-gb/men/skate-rowley-25th-navy-white-vn0a2z3onav
Thanks.
What’s the issue with rowley and the reluctance to support?
Thanks guys.Expand QuoteWhat’s the issue with rowley and the reluctance to support?[close]
Well, he's... Rowley. He used to be one of my favorites from the mid 90s to the Sorry era but he's come across as the kind of person I'd rather not support since.
Rowley tried to brush off his vegan phase by saying that he only used synthetic materials because they’re more durable. However, aside from the Dime, white/navy, and 25th anniversary colorways of the XLT, the rest of the colorways have been real suede or nubuck. If synthetic materials are more durable, why is he putting out shoes that aren’t synth? He either lied about his reasons to avoid getting ridiculed by the hunting community, or Vans doesn’t want people to get more than 2-3 weeks out of a pair.
Anyways, I noticed that Corey Glick and Nick Michel posted clips skating the newest Chukka colorway and called it the “Cardiel Chukka.” None of the shops that have them for sale mention anything about Cardiel, unlike colorways for Beatrice and Berle. Does Cardiel get royalties or is it just being called that because of the color of the uppers?
(https://njskateshop.com/cdn/shop/files/image0-removebg-preview_12394b10-7723-4755-9670-16f3b4c5ef3c_300x300.png?v=1729615621)
Thanks guys.Exactly this.Expand QuoteWhat’s the issue with rowley and the reluctance to support?[close]
Well, he's... Rowley. He used to be one of my favorites from the mid 90s to the Sorry era but he's come across as the kind of person I'd rather not support since.
Exactly this.Expand QuoteThanks guys.Expand QuoteWhat’s the issue with rowley and the reluctance to support?[close]
Well, he's... Rowley. He used to be one of my favorites from the mid 90s to the Sorry era but he's come across as the kind of person I'd rather not support since.[close]
From English lad to gringo redneck is too much of a change.
Expand QuoteRowley tried to brush off his vegan phase by saying that he only used synthetic materials because they’re more durable. However, aside from the Dime, white/navy, and 25th anniversary colorways of the XLT, the rest of the colorways have been real suede or nubuck. If synthetic materials are more durable, why is he putting out shoes that aren’t synth? He either lied about his reasons to avoid getting ridiculed by the hunting community, or Vans doesn’t want people to get more than 2-3 weeks out of a pair.
Anyways, I noticed that Corey Glick and Nick Michel posted clips skating the newest Chukka colorway and called it the “Cardiel Chukka.” None of the shops that have them for sale mention anything about Cardiel, unlike colorways for Beatrice and Berle. Does Cardiel get royalties or is it just being called that because of the color of the uppers?
(https://njskateshop.com/cdn/shop/files/image0-removebg-preview_12394b10-7723-4755-9670-16f3b4c5ef3c_300x300.png?v=1729615621)[close]
Guessing it might be more from the interest in this pic of him wearing that colourway back in 1991 or so.
I just found it from google that a shop had snipped the pic from where ever with no other info as to where it originally came from, but that is my guess anyway.
Cardiel, '91. BK photo.
(https://i.ibb.co/rvvLc5H/Cardiel-Vans-1992.jpg) (https://ibb.co/9GGfVyW)
* I saved the pic as 1992, but saw later it was shown to be 1991.
Did anyone ever skate the Ave 2.0? They’re 55% off and I kinda wanna cop. Looking for something comfy that’ll be ok with my flat feet.
Expand QuoteDid anyone ever skate the Ave 2.0? They’re 55% off and I kinda wanna cop. Looking for something comfy that’ll be ok with my flat feet.[close]
Skated both versions, knit and non knit. Knit one is too unstable for my likings.
The non knit feels basically like the old AVE with a better sole construction but the shoe is so narrow, even for Vans standards.
Sizing up didnt work since the shoe just got longer, not wider.
Had three Sessions in them and had to sell them.
And i dont even got especially wide feet.
So my guess would be for flat feet the shoe wont work also.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteDid anyone ever skate the Ave 2.0? They’re 55% off and I kinda wanna cop. Looking for something comfy that’ll be ok with my flat feet.[close]
Skated both versions, knit and non knit. Knit one is too unstable for my likings.
The non knit feels basically like the old AVE with a better sole construction but the shoe is so narrow, even for Vans standards.
Sizing up didnt work since the shoe just got longer, not wider.
Had three Sessions in them and had to sell them.
And i dont even got especially wide feet.
So my guess would be for flat feet the shoe wont work also.[close]
Cheers, saved me $85
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteDid anyone ever skate the Ave 2.0? They’re 55% off and I kinda wanna cop. Looking for something comfy that’ll be ok with my flat feet.[close]
Skated both versions, knit and non knit. Knit one is too unstable for my likings.
The non knit feels basically like the old AVE with a better sole construction but the shoe is so narrow, even for Vans standards.
Sizing up didnt work since the shoe just got longer, not wider.
Had three Sessions in them and had to sell them.
And i dont even got especially wide feet.
So my guess would be for flat feet the shoe wont work also.[close]
Cheers, saved me $85[close]
Yeah even just trying them on I could tell they were not going to fit me.
I have flat feet, not wide feet, but they were not comfortable to me, whereas other shoes without the tech seem to fit way better, or at the very least are more comfortable.
I can't wear any shoes with the new pro / skate insoles either, but other older Vans insoles work great in almost any shoes I put them in, as do some other brands that have more a flat footbed shape.
popcush really fucks with your biomechanics. my gait really got messed up when I used to wear those everyday. part of the issue is that to fit the insole into the newer vans they had to cut down on the thickness of the outsole and shave down the footbed, so you've got a lot of squish under your foot but little stiffness that makes it feel supportive to your knees.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteDid anyone ever skate the Ave 2.0? They’re 55% off and I kinda wanna cop. Looking for something comfy that’ll be ok with my flat feet.[close]
Skated both versions, knit and non knit. Knit one is too unstable for my likings.
The non knit feels basically like the old AVE with a better sole construction but the shoe is so narrow, even for Vans standards.
Sizing up didnt work since the shoe just got longer, not wider.
Had three Sessions in them and had to sell them.
And i dont even got especially wide feet.
So my guess would be for flat feet the shoe wont work also.[close]
Cheers, saved me $85[close]
Yeah even just trying them on I could tell they were not going to fit me.
I have flat feet, not wide feet, but they were not comfortable to me, whereas other shoes without the tech seem to fit way better, or at the very least are more comfortable.
I can't wear any shoes with the new pro / skate insoles either, but other older Vans insoles work great in almost any shoes I put them in, as do some other brands that have more a flat footbed shape.[close]
I thought I was going nuts as the newer vans hurt my feet but the older ones don’t. I’ve discovered in my search for a more supportive and protective shoe that probably due to years of abuse my feet still enjoy thin, unstructured vulcs. Basic last resorts vm001 are really comfy to me. Wild stuff.
popcush really fucks with your biomechanics. my gait really got messed up when I used to wear those everyday. part of the issue is that to fit the insole into the newer vans they had to cut down on the thickness of the outsole and shave down the footbed, so you've got a lot of squish under your foot but little stiffness that makes it feel supportive to your knees.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteDid anyone ever skate the Ave 2.0? They’re 55% off and I kinda wanna cop. Looking for something comfy that’ll be ok with my flat feet.[close]
Skated both versions, knit and non knit. Knit one is too unstable for my likings.
The non knit feels basically like the old AVE with a better sole construction but the shoe is so narrow, even for Vans standards.
Sizing up didnt work since the shoe just got longer, not wider.
Had three Sessions in them and had to sell them.
And i dont even got especially wide feet.
So my guess would be for flat feet the shoe wont work also.[close]
Cheers, saved me $85[close]
Yeah even just trying them on I could tell they were not going to fit me.
I have flat feet, not wide feet, but they were not comfortable to me, whereas other shoes without the tech seem to fit way better, or at the very least are more comfortable.
I can't wear any shoes with the new pro / skate insoles either, but other older Vans insoles work great in almost any shoes I put them in, as do some other brands that have more a flat footbed shape.[close]
I thought I was going nuts as the newer vans hurt my feet but the older ones don’t. I’ve discovered in my search for a more supportive and protective shoe that probably due to years of abuse my feet still enjoy thin, unstructured vulcs. Basic last resorts vm001 are really comfy to me. Wild stuff.[close]
Expand Quotepopcush really fucks with your biomechanics. my gait really got messed up when I used to wear those everyday. part of the issue is that to fit the insole into the newer vans they had to cut down on the thickness of the outsole and shave down the footbed, so you've got a lot of squish under your foot but little stiffness that makes it feel supportive to your knees.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteDid anyone ever skate the Ave 2.0? They’re 55% off and I kinda wanna cop. Looking for something comfy that’ll be ok with my flat feet.[close]
Skated both versions, knit and non knit. Knit one is too unstable for my likings.
The non knit feels basically like the old AVE with a better sole construction but the shoe is so narrow, even for Vans standards.
Sizing up didnt work since the shoe just got longer, not wider.
Had three Sessions in them and had to sell them.
And i dont even got especially wide feet.
So my guess would be for flat feet the shoe wont work also.[close]
Cheers, saved me $85[close]
Yeah even just trying them on I could tell they were not going to fit me.
I have flat feet, not wide feet, but they were not comfortable to me, whereas other shoes without the tech seem to fit way better, or at the very least are more comfortable.
I can't wear any shoes with the new pro / skate insoles either, but other older Vans insoles work great in almost any shoes I put them in, as do some other brands that have more a flat footbed shape.[close]
I thought I was going nuts as the newer vans hurt my feet but the older ones don’t. I’ve discovered in my search for a more supportive and protective shoe that probably due to years of abuse my feet still enjoy thin, unstructured vulcs. Basic last resorts vm001 are really comfy to me. Wild stuff.[close][close]
Always interesting to hear these sort of things.
I don't see too many insoles / footbeds out there now that really work for me, so it is a good thing I still have a lot of the TNT2 and similar era Vans footbeds I can use over and over again, from back around 2005 to 2010.
Maybe the most similar one now is the Last Resort yellow one, which felt pretty good when I tried on a pair when they first came out.
There are others out there too, but I need a flatter fit, not heavily contoured, can still be a little higher in the heel than the toe, but all the same material, not like the Vans Grosso 3D or other sports insoles that often have the hard plastic round the edge or any other options, gel insert or whatever.
Some more that come to mind that seemed very similar were the Gravis insoles, as well as some older Globe ones (yellow), the older thicker Emerica (green) ones, also some from Habitat shoes, Diamond shoes and a couple more I can't recall at this point. Others like Footprint, Remind and specific skate ones also just don't work for me.
All the joys of making things work or modifying shoes, such as pulling out any of the plain Vans Classic shoe footbeds and putting in these old Pro ones and I am good to go, more so than buying the pro shoes or Skate range now.
Expand QuoteExpand Quotepopcush really fucks with your biomechanics. my gait really got messed up when I used to wear those everyday. part of the issue is that to fit the insole into the newer vans they had to cut down on the thickness of the outsole and shave down the footbed, so you've got a lot of squish under your foot but little stiffness that makes it feel supportive to your knees.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteDid anyone ever skate the Ave 2.0? They’re 55% off and I kinda wanna cop. Looking for something comfy that’ll be ok with my flat feet.[close]
Skated both versions, knit and non knit. Knit one is too unstable for my likings.
The non knit feels basically like the old AVE with a better sole construction but the shoe is so narrow, even for Vans standards.
Sizing up didnt work since the shoe just got longer, not wider.
Had three Sessions in them and had to sell them.
And i dont even got especially wide feet.
So my guess would be for flat feet the shoe wont work also.[close]
Cheers, saved me $85[close]
Yeah even just trying them on I could tell they were not going to fit me.
I have flat feet, not wide feet, but they were not comfortable to me, whereas other shoes without the tech seem to fit way better, or at the very least are more comfortable.
I can't wear any shoes with the new pro / skate insoles either, but other older Vans insoles work great in almost any shoes I put them in, as do some other brands that have more a flat footbed shape.[close]
I thought I was going nuts as the newer vans hurt my feet but the older ones don’t. I’ve discovered in my search for a more supportive and protective shoe that probably due to years of abuse my feet still enjoy thin, unstructured vulcs. Basic last resorts vm001 are really comfy to me. Wild stuff.[close][close]
Always interesting to hear these sort of things.
I don't see too many insoles / footbeds out there now that really work for me, so it is a good thing I still have a lot of the TNT2 and similar era Vans footbeds I can use over and over again, from back around 2005 to 2010.
Maybe the most similar one now is the Last Resort yellow one, which felt pretty good when I tried on a pair when they first came out.
There are others out there too, but I need a flatter fit, not heavily contoured, can still be a little higher in the heel than the toe, but all the same material, not like the Vans Grosso 3D or other sports insoles that often have the hard plastic round the edge or any other options, gel insert or whatever.
Some more that come to mind that seemed very similar were the Gravis insoles, as well as some older Globe ones (yellow), the older thicker Emerica (green) ones, also some from Habitat shoes, Diamond shoes and a couple more I can't recall at this point. Others like Footprint, Remind and specific skate ones also just don't work for me.
All the joys of making things work or modifying shoes, such as pulling out any of the plain Vans Classic shoe footbeds and putting in these old Pro ones and I am good to go, more so than buying the pro shoes or Skate range now.[close]
I really wish they’d just stop with all the extra shit and just give us the classic construction they used to have, I’d prolly still be wearing vans
Expand QuoteExpand Quotepopcush really fucks with your biomechanics. my gait really got messed up when I used to wear those everyday. part of the issue is that to fit the insole into the newer vans they had to cut down on the thickness of the outsole and shave down the footbed, so you've got a lot of squish under your foot but little stiffness that makes it feel supportive to your knees.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteDid anyone ever skate the Ave 2.0? They’re 55% off and I kinda wanna cop. Looking for something comfy that’ll be ok with my flat feet.[close]
Skated both versions, knit and non knit. Knit one is too unstable for my likings.
The non knit feels basically like the old AVE with a better sole construction but the shoe is so narrow, even for Vans standards.
Sizing up didnt work since the shoe just got longer, not wider.
Had three Sessions in them and had to sell them.
And i dont even got especially wide feet.
So my guess would be for flat feet the shoe wont work also.[close]
Cheers, saved me $85[close]
Yeah even just trying them on I could tell they were not going to fit me.
I have flat feet, not wide feet, but they were not comfortable to me, whereas other shoes without the tech seem to fit way better, or at the very least are more comfortable.
I can't wear any shoes with the new pro / skate insoles either, but other older Vans insoles work great in almost any shoes I put them in, as do some other brands that have more a flat footbed shape.[close]
I thought I was going nuts as the newer vans hurt my feet but the older ones don’t. I’ve discovered in my search for a more supportive and protective shoe that probably due to years of abuse my feet still enjoy thin, unstructured vulcs. Basic last resorts vm001 are really comfy to me. Wild stuff.[close][close]
Always interesting to hear these sort of things.
I don't see too many insoles / footbeds out there now that really work for me, so it is a good thing I still have a lot of the TNT2 and similar era Vans footbeds I can use over and over again, from back around 2005 to 2010.
Maybe the most similar one now is the Last Resort yellow one, which felt pretty good when I tried on a pair when they first came out.
There are others out there too, but I need a flatter fit, not heavily contoured, can still be a little higher in the heel than the toe, but all the same material, not like the Vans Grosso 3D or other sports insoles that often have the hard plastic round the edge or any other options, gel insert or whatever.
Some more that come to mind that seemed very similar were the Gravis insoles, as well as some older Globe ones (yellow), the older thicker Emerica (green) ones, also some from Habitat shoes, Diamond shoes and a couple more I can't recall at this point. Others like Footprint, Remind and specific skate ones also just don't work for me.
All the joys of making things work or modifying shoes, such as pulling out any of the plain Vans Classic shoe footbeds and putting in these old Pro ones and I am good to go, more so than buying the pro shoes or Skate range now.[close]
I really wish they’d just stop with all the extra shit and just give us the classic construction they used to have, I’d prolly still be wearing vans
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quotepopcush really fucks with your biomechanics. my gait really got messed up when I used to wear those everyday. part of the issue is that to fit the insole into the newer vans they had to cut down on the thickness of the outsole and shave down the footbed, so you've got a lot of squish under your foot but little stiffness that makes it feel supportive to your knees.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteDid anyone ever skate the Ave 2.0? They’re 55% off and I kinda wanna cop. Looking for something comfy that’ll be ok with my flat feet.[close]
Skated both versions, knit and non knit. Knit one is too unstable for my likings.
The non knit feels basically like the old AVE with a better sole construction but the shoe is so narrow, even for Vans standards.
Sizing up didnt work since the shoe just got longer, not wider.
Had three Sessions in them and had to sell them.
And i dont even got especially wide feet.
So my guess would be for flat feet the shoe wont work also.[close]
Cheers, saved me $85[close]
Yeah even just trying them on I could tell they were not going to fit me.
I have flat feet, not wide feet, but they were not comfortable to me, whereas other shoes without the tech seem to fit way better, or at the very least are more comfortable.
I can't wear any shoes with the new pro / skate insoles either, but other older Vans insoles work great in almost any shoes I put them in, as do some other brands that have more a flat footbed shape.[close]
I thought I was going nuts as the newer vans hurt my feet but the older ones don’t. I’ve discovered in my search for a more supportive and protective shoe that probably due to years of abuse my feet still enjoy thin, unstructured vulcs. Basic last resorts vm001 are really comfy to me. Wild stuff.[close][close]
Always interesting to hear these sort of things.
I don't see too many insoles / footbeds out there now that really work for me, so it is a good thing I still have a lot of the TNT2 and similar era Vans footbeds I can use over and over again, from back around 2005 to 2010.
Maybe the most similar one now is the Last Resort yellow one, which felt pretty good when I tried on a pair when they first came out.
There are others out there too, but I need a flatter fit, not heavily contoured, can still be a little higher in the heel than the toe, but all the same material, not like the Vans Grosso 3D or other sports insoles that often have the hard plastic round the edge or any other options, gel insert or whatever.
Some more that come to mind that seemed very similar were the Gravis insoles, as well as some older Globe ones (yellow), the older thicker Emerica (green) ones, also some from Habitat shoes, Diamond shoes and a couple more I can't recall at this point. Others like Footprint, Remind and specific skate ones also just don't work for me.
All the joys of making things work or modifying shoes, such as pulling out any of the plain Vans Classic shoe footbeds and putting in these old Pro ones and I am good to go, more so than buying the pro shoes or Skate range now.[close]
I really wish they’d just stop with all the extra shit and just give us the classic construction they used to have, I’d prolly still be wearing vans[close]
+1. Classic vans were my favorite shoe, I just wish they would have fixed how fast the sole wears through. All the extra shit they’ve done is just that, extra shit. They never fixed the core issue and I’ll be damned if I spend more money on a pro version just to fix perceived issues no one ever had.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quotepopcush really fucks with your biomechanics. my gait really got messed up when I used to wear those everyday. part of the issue is that to fit the insole into the newer vans they had to cut down on the thickness of the outsole and shave down the footbed, so you've got a lot of squish under your foot but little stiffness that makes it feel supportive to your knees.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteDid anyone ever skate the Ave 2.0? They’re 55% off and I kinda wanna cop. Looking for something comfy that’ll be ok with my flat feet.[close]
Skated both versions, knit and non knit. Knit one is too unstable for my likings.
The non knit feels basically like the old AVE with a better sole construction but the shoe is so narrow, even for Vans standards.
Sizing up didnt work since the shoe just got longer, not wider.
Had three Sessions in them and had to sell them.
And i dont even got especially wide feet.
So my guess would be for flat feet the shoe wont work also.[close]
Cheers, saved me $85[close]
Yeah even just trying them on I could tell they were not going to fit me.
I have flat feet, not wide feet, but they were not comfortable to me, whereas other shoes without the tech seem to fit way better, or at the very least are more comfortable.
I can't wear any shoes with the new pro / skate insoles either, but other older Vans insoles work great in almost any shoes I put them in, as do some other brands that have more a flat footbed shape.[close]
I thought I was going nuts as the newer vans hurt my feet but the older ones don’t. I’ve discovered in my search for a more supportive and protective shoe that probably due to years of abuse my feet still enjoy thin, unstructured vulcs. Basic last resorts vm001 are really comfy to me. Wild stuff.[close][close]
Always interesting to hear these sort of things.
I don't see too many insoles / footbeds out there now that really work for me, so it is a good thing I still have a lot of the TNT2 and similar era Vans footbeds I can use over and over again, from back around 2005 to 2010.
Maybe the most similar one now is the Last Resort yellow one, which felt pretty good when I tried on a pair when they first came out.
There are others out there too, but I need a flatter fit, not heavily contoured, can still be a little higher in the heel than the toe, but all the same material, not like the Vans Grosso 3D or other sports insoles that often have the hard plastic round the edge or any other options, gel insert or whatever.
Some more that come to mind that seemed very similar were the Gravis insoles, as well as some older Globe ones (yellow), the older thicker Emerica (green) ones, also some from Habitat shoes, Diamond shoes and a couple more I can't recall at this point. Others like Footprint, Remind and specific skate ones also just don't work for me.
All the joys of making things work or modifying shoes, such as pulling out any of the plain Vans Classic shoe footbeds and putting in these old Pro ones and I am good to go, more so than buying the pro shoes or Skate range now.[close]
I really wish they’d just stop with all the extra shit and just give us the classic construction they used to have, I’d prolly still be wearing vans[close]
+1. Classic vans were my favorite shoe, I just wish they would have fixed how fast the sole wears through. All the extra shit they’ve done is just that, extra shit. They never fixed the core issue and I’ll be damned if I spend more money on a pro version just to fix perceived issues no one ever had.[close]
They do address this with the skate versions though, the sole is thicker than the classic version, and there's rubber underlay to prevent your socks from getting holes once the suede wears through. What are the core issues you're referring to? Personally I find that the skate versions are stiffer too, which translates to more stability.
Expand Quotepopcush really fucks with your biomechanics. my gait really got messed up when I used to wear those everyday. part of the issue is that to fit the insole into the newer vans they had to cut down on the thickness of the outsole and shave down the footbed, so you've got a lot of squish under your foot but little stiffness that makes it feel supportive to your knees.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteDid anyone ever skate the Ave 2.0? They’re 55% off and I kinda wanna cop. Looking for something comfy that’ll be ok with my flat feet.[close]
Skated both versions, knit and non knit. Knit one is too unstable for my likings.
The non knit feels basically like the old AVE with a better sole construction but the shoe is so narrow, even for Vans standards.
Sizing up didnt work since the shoe just got longer, not wider.
Had three Sessions in them and had to sell them.
And i dont even got especially wide feet.
So my guess would be for flat feet the shoe wont work also.[close]
Cheers, saved me $85[close]
Yeah even just trying them on I could tell they were not going to fit me.
I have flat feet, not wide feet, but they were not comfortable to me, whereas other shoes without the tech seem to fit way better, or at the very least are more comfortable.
I can't wear any shoes with the new pro / skate insoles either, but other older Vans insoles work great in almost any shoes I put them in, as do some other brands that have more a flat footbed shape.[close]
I thought I was going nuts as the newer vans hurt my feet but the older ones don’t. I’ve discovered in my search for a more supportive and protective shoe that probably due to years of abuse my feet still enjoy thin, unstructured vulcs. Basic last resorts vm001 are really comfy to me. Wild stuff.[close][close]
Always interesting to hear these sort of things.
I don't see too many insoles / footbeds out there now that really work for me, so it is a good thing I still have a lot of the TNT2 and similar era Vans footbeds I can use over and over again, from back around 2005 to 2010.
Maybe the most similar one now is the Last Resort yellow one, which felt pretty good when I tried on a pair when they first came out.
There are others out there too, but I need a flatter fit, not heavily contoured, can still be a little higher in the heel than the toe, but all the same material, not like the Vans Grosso 3D or other sports insoles that often have the hard plastic round the edge or any other options, gel insert or whatever.
Some more that come to mind that seemed very similar were the Gravis insoles, as well as some older Globe ones (yellow), the older thicker Emerica (green) ones, also some from Habitat shoes, Diamond shoes and a couple more I can't recall at this point. Others like Footprint, Remind and specific skate ones also just don't work for me.
All the joys of making things work or modifying shoes, such as pulling out any of the plain Vans Classic shoe footbeds and putting in these old Pro ones and I am good to go, more so than buying the pro shoes or Skate range now.
The MC / Safe low back for Fall 25
3 different CWs
I'm talking about only one model.
Maybe using the term MC is wrong but in the Vans catalog it's called the Safe Low Skate
Safe low back for Fall 25
3 different CWs
popcush feels like shit and makes me wanna cut my toes off and get them replaced with beans made of steel
The MC / Safe low back for Fall 25
3 different CWs
yesExpand QuoteThe MC / Safe low back for Fall 25
3 different CWs[close]
Tell me at least one of them has a white sole. Please.
yesExpand QuoteExpand QuoteThe MC / Safe low back for Fall 25
3 different CWs[close]
Tell me at least one of them has a white sole. Please.[close]
Full black
Offwhite upper on black sole
Navy/Marshmallow on white sole
yesExpand QuoteExpand QuoteThe MC / Safe low back for Fall 25
3 different CWs[close]
Tell me at least one of them has a white sole. Please.[close]
Full black
Offwhite upper on black sole
Navy/Marshmallow on white sole
Expand QuoteyesExpand QuoteExpand QuoteThe MC / Safe low back for Fall 25
3 different CWs[close]
Tell me at least one of them has a white sole. Please.[close]
Full black
Offwhite upper on black sole
Navy/Marshmallow on white sole[close]
Damnit just one. Maybe full black will be ok
Have any of you tried those Skate Rowley 25th Anniversary shoes? How are they?Kinda late and not that useful but homie couldn't give more details on his experience.
Never had a pair back in the day and kinda want one now but I hate the idea of supporting Rowley. Hhmmm...
https://www.vans.co.uk/shop/en-gb/vans-gb/men/skate-rowley-25th-navy-white-vn0a2z3onav
Thanks.
I feel like there was some discussion in this thread recently about half cab skate classics hurting people's feet. The last two pairs I bought this has happened, but then I saw a Vans ad with Dick Rizzo wearing some in Skate Jawn and noticed he doesn't lace them through the metal eyelet. I tried it, and at first it looks a bit strange, but my feet definitely don't hurt like they did on the last few pairs. My laces also feel like they're the proper length and not too short. The shoe feels a bit easier to get on/off too.at the point where I'm just going to switch to the off the wall versions and see if there is a difference. I don't know why they keep fucking around with the fit of shoes.
Maybe they need to rework the placement of that eyelet?
Expand QuoteI'm talking about only one model.
Maybe using the term MC is wrong but in the Vans catalog it's called the Safe Low Skate[close]
Ok gotcha. Makes more sense. It’s the one the palace vans riders had a c/w of
I just realized the differences between the Safe Low and the MCs.
Sorry for the confusion.
(https://i.ibb.co/W38Frs4/IMG-3938.jpg) (https://ibb.co/W38Frs4)
Hadn’t seen these anywhere before and wondering if anyone has seen them in person.
Seem to be a core shop exclusive, as they’re not on the Vans site.
Hate the tongue and heel loops, but love an Old Skool with metal eyelets. Also, the tongue looks kinda puffy. A little padding is ok, but too puffy is a no-go for me.
Just wondering, as I said above, if anyone has had these in hand/on foot.
I’ve always said that an Old Skool with eyelets would be an auto-cop, but lately I’ve been waiting for the Ipath Reed Lows and now I’m torn since I’m broke and these are so pretty…
Noted, thanks.Expand Quote(https://i.ibb.co/W38Frs4/IMG-3938.jpg) (https://ibb.co/W38Frs4)
Hadn’t seen these anywhere before and wondering if anyone has seen them in person.
Seem to be a core shop exclusive, as they’re not on the Vans site.
Hate the tongue and heel loops, but love an Old Skool with metal eyelets. Also, the tongue looks kinda puffy. A little padding is ok, but too puffy is a no-go for me.
Just wondering, as I said above, if anyone has had these in hand/on foot.
I’ve always said that an Old Skool with eyelets would be an auto-cop, but lately I’ve been waiting for the Ipath Reed Lows and now I’m torn since I’m broke and these are so pretty…[close]
The tongue is super puffy, the pics seem to hide it quite well.
When I first saw an image I thought they might be decent but in the flesh they’re a hard pass
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Hadn’t seen these anywhere before and wondering if anyone has seen them in person.
Seem to be a core shop exclusive, as they’re not on the Vans site.
Hate the tongue and heel loops, but love an Old Skool with metal eyelets. Also, the tongue looks kinda puffy. A little padding is ok, but too puffy is a no-go for me.
Just wondering, as I said above, if anyone has had these in hand/on foot.
I’ve always said that an Old Skool with eyelets would be an auto-cop, but lately I’ve been waiting for the Ipath Reed Lows and now I’m torn since I’m broke and these are so pretty…[close]
The tongue is super puffy, the pics seem to hide it quite well.
When I first saw an image I thought they might be decent but in the flesh they’re a hard pass
Anyone have feedback on the Rowley XLT?
(https://i.ibb.co/W38Frs4/IMG-3938.jpg) (https://ibb.co/W38Frs4)Honestly hate the old skool but I like the looks of these in person. They come out on the 31st of January, I think some shops accidentally released them early. I’m gonna give them a shot because I’m interested but my hopes are set low, I hope I’m pleasantly surprised.
Hadn’t seen these anywhere before and wondering if anyone has seen them in person.
Seem to be a core shop exclusive, as they’re not on the Vans site.
Hate the tongue and heel loops, but love an Old Skool with metal eyelets. Also, the tongue looks kinda puffy. A little padding is ok, but too puffy is a no-go for me.
Just wondering, as I said above, if anyone has had these in hand/on foot.
I’ve always said that an Old Skool with eyelets would be an auto-cop, but lately I’ve been waiting for the Ipath Reed Lows and now I’m torn since I’m broke and these are so pretty…
https://www.instagram.com/p/DEOJzFvp02o/?img_index=1&igsh=MWkwY3NvOXo5cWVheA==rock catcher outsole. also whats with the jazz stripe place holder?
Appreciate it. Vans site has them cheap at the moment.Expand QuoteAnyone have feedback on the Rowley XLT?[close]
Not the most durable sole but they are very comfortable and grippy. True to size for me unlike the Rowan 2 and Ave 2 which required going up half a size.
Expand QuoteAnyone have feedback on the Rowley XLT?[close]
Not the most durable sole but they are very comfortable and grippy. True to size for me unlike the Rowan 2 and Ave 2 which required going up half a size.
https://www.villagepsychic.net/blog/the-sopranos-inspired-the-vans-mixxa-claude-lecoYou can't stop them at this point. They just keep stepping in it. Every render of that shoe looks like shit, even by 2000's standards.
o man vans is more cooked than i thought
You can't stop them at this point. They just keep stepping in it. Every render of that shoe looks like shit, even by 2000's standards.Expand Quotehttps://www.villagepsychic.net/blog/the-sopranos-inspired-the-vans-mixxa-claude-leco
o man vans is more cooked than i thought[close]
my vans rowan 2 review: pretty uncomfortable right out of the box, very stiff and tight around the toebox if you get true to size
after a couple weeks though they loosen up and get comfy and are 5x more durable than any other vans shoe
Expand Quotemy vans rowan 2 review: pretty uncomfortable right out of the box, very stiff and tight around the toebox if you get true to size
after a couple weeks though they loosen up and get comfy and are 5x more durable than any other vans shoe[close]
More or less same. They was a little tight at first but not in an uncomfortable tight but like fitted or snug. First session or so was rough but I honestly have enjoyed them around 3rd session on. Comfortable for well I went to TTS. I wear them to skate and sometimes as chillers. My girlfriend don’t love the way they look so I know she judges me when I wear them out.
roll out for the Old Skool 36+ is so obnoxious. The shoe is dog shit.Well, that makes Vans very consistent.
Anyone have a release date for the Curren shoe?It's not on the Spring season
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Has anyone seen or heard of the "Premium" range. I got a few on clearance here in AU and they are another variant of Pro or X but have a super thick insole that is similar to the old flatter versions in the TNT2 and other shoes back in the mid 00s.
The side wall comes up a lot higher on all of them too, but the biggest issue is the sole they put on them seems so small by comparison that with the really thick insole, they tend to ankle roll very easily.
They came out in Sk8 Mid (Style 86), Old Skool (Style 36) and others like Half Cab as well, but I don't recall seeing them before anywhere and they all seem to be on clearance here now.
Not sure if these links will come up for people outside of AU, but I can post more pics of the ones I have if needed.
https://www.vans.com.au/search?q=premium
https://www.vans.com.au/premium-sk8-mid-83-vn00cqqba2-blk.html
(https://www.vans.com.au/media/catalog/product/v/n/vn00cqqba2_blk_01_updated.jpg)
Bought mine today. Fits like a glove straight out of box. Love emExpand QuoteExpand Quotemy vans rowan 2 review: pretty uncomfortable right out of the box, very stiff and tight around the toebox if you get true to size
after a couple weeks though they loosen up and get comfy and are 5x more durable than any other vans shoe[close]
More or less same. They was a little tight at first but not in an uncomfortable tight but like fitted or snug. First session or so was rough but I honestly have enjoyed them around 3rd session on. Comfortable for well I went to TTS. I wear them to skate and sometimes as chillers. My girlfriend don’t love the way they look so I know she judges me when I wear them out.[close]
Idk if i would have tried the Rowan 2s if there wasn't the all black/orange stitching Spitfire cw. Loved that specific colorway, and some of the others are decent, but the main run of white and primary colors are hard to look at, imo. Which bites cause I really enjoyed them, good flick, good stability and impact, and they were built like a tank! Lasted for a whole season of constant abuse, skating and daily wearing
Are these different from “Anaheim Factory DX” models?
Maybe they’re renamed to avoid confusion? What you’ve described is pretty accurate to the one pair of style 73s that I’ve had. They might be the best skating pair of Vans that I’ve ever owned but I can understand the ankle-rolly feelings.
The old Anaheim/Vault/DX/LX lines all got consolidated under the newer “OTW” line which were previously sold separately on the otw.vans.com site but are now included on the main vans site too.
I think OTW is supposed to be the line that Atiba was consulting on also?
I bought a pair of Authentic in suede from J.Crew, and they are the premium model as well. They came in a blue box as well. The insole is pretty much the same as popcush. As I understand it, the OTW name is being used on "experimental" releases and collabs, whereas the premium is being utilized for more "normal" releases... the stuff that normal people would wear. Vault's been split into two. Anaheim and Vault ran at the same time but generally feel very similar. It's just premium and OTW now.Expand Quote
Are these different from “Anaheim Factory DX” models?
Maybe they’re renamed to avoid confusion? What you’ve described is pretty accurate to the one pair of style 73s that I’ve had. They might be the best skating pair of Vans that I’ve ever owned but I can understand the ankle-rolly feelings.[close]Expand QuoteThe old Anaheim/Vault/DX/LX lines all got consolidated under the newer “OTW” line which were previously sold separately on the otw.vans.com site but are now included on the main vans site too.
I think OTW is supposed to be the line that Atiba was consulting on also?[close]
Yeah it is funny cause I did have some other X variants, but I had never seen this insole before in any other shoes, apart from those other ones from almost 20 years ago.
They come in a plain dark blue box, and now I have my glasses on, I can see LX in very small print, which I hadn't seen before, so that makes sense, as there is no other info on the listings and they only seem to be on the Vans AU site, or associated sites, not any other shop sites here in AU, but that could also be because they are LX and not PREMIUM as Vans AU list them.
This was the back view, which shows the really slim / small sole they put on them. To be fair, I am now using these insoles in other shoes like Skate range, then using thinner insoles in these shoes, which all but avoid the ankle roll in the higher insole / when your foot sits higher off the ground.
(https://www.vans.com.au/media/catalog/product/v/n/vn00cqqba2_blk_04_updated.jpg)
It's not on the Spring seasonExpand QuoteAnyone have a release date for the Curren shoe?[close]
I can't say for Summer season at the moment
For Fall season, a few colorways around the end of August
Anyone have a release date for the Curren shoe?
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They drop in April.
First colorways are that red one that was previously posted, all black, and a light grey with black sole colorway. That one will have a couple yellow details on it.
The better colorways, in my opinion, come out in the last half of the year. Black/White sole with white contrast stitching, baby blue, all emerald green one that is part of the Atiba drop, and an all white colorway. Those will drop in September and October
First colorways are that red one that was previously posted, all black, and a light grey with black sole colorway. That one will have a couple yellow details on it.
The better colorways, in my opinion, come out in the last half of the year. Black/White sole with white contrast stitching, baby blue, all emerald green one that is part of the Atiba drop, and an all white colorway. Those will drop in September and October
Expand Quote.
Has anyone seen or heard of the "Premium" range. I got a few on clearance here in AU and they are another variant of Pro or X but have a super thick insole that is similar to the old flatter versions in the TNT2 and other shoes back in the mid 00s.
The side wall comes up a lot higher on all of them too, but the biggest issue is the sole they put on them seems so small by comparison that with the really thick insole, they tend to ankle roll very easily.
They came out in Sk8 Mid (Style 86), Old Skool (Style 36) and others like Half Cab as well, but I don't recall seeing them before anywhere and they all seem to be on clearance here now.
Not sure if these links will come up for people outside of AU, but I can post more pics of the ones I have if needed.
https://www.vans.com.au/search?q=premium
https://www.vans.com.au/premium-sk8-mid-83-vn00cqqba2-blk.html
(https://www.vans.com.au/media/catalog/product/v/n/vn00cqqba2_blk_01_updated.jpg)[close]
Are these different from “Anaheim Factory DX” models?
Maybe they’re renamed to avoid confusion? What you’ve described is pretty accurate to the one pair of style 73s that I’ve had. They might be the best skating pair of Vans that I’ve ever owned but I can understand the ankle-rolly feelings.
https://www.vans.co.jp/vans-premium/
Was just in Japan and noticed the Premium Vans as well. Haven't seen this in the US.
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https://www.vans.co.jp/vans-premium/
Was just in Japan and noticed the Premium Vans as well. Haven't seen this in the US.[close]
Yeah Japan are big on their premium products, so it makes sense.
After looking at the box with my glasses on it has LX in very (VERY) small print, so from searching that, some more come up a bit, but not all places add the LX or anything else in the name, certainly not PREMIUM in the name either, so actually trying to find these shoes could be a bit of a pain if you don't have the right wording.
Some of the listings have the style number as well, but not all, so even that is not an easy way to search, eg Sk8 Mid Style 83.
Expand QuoteAnyone have a release date for the Curren shoe?[close]
They drop in April.
First colorways are that red one that was previously posted, all black, and a light grey with black sole colorway. That one will have a couple yellow details on it.
The better colorways, in my opinion, come out in the last half of the year. Black/White sole with white contrast stitching, baby blue, all emerald green one that is part of the Atiba drop, and an all white colorway. Those will drop in September and October
where have you guys seen the pics of curren's upcoming shoe?
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https://www.vans.co.jp/vans-premium/
Was just in Japan and noticed the Premium Vans as well. Haven't seen this in the US.[close]
Yeah Japan are big on their premium products, so it makes sense.
After looking at the box with my glasses on it has LX in very (VERY) small print, so from searching that, some more come up a bit, but not all places add the LX or anything else in the name, certainly not PREMIUM in the name either, so actually trying to find these shoes could be a bit of a pain if you don't have the right wording.
Some of the listings have the style number as well, but not all, so even that is not an easy way to search, eg Sk8 Mid Style 83.[close]
I bought a pair of these in the "dark russet" colorway this summer. On the US site, they were called the "sk8 mid LX 83 reissue." They looked exactly the same as the pair you posted, just not plain black and white. The Carmel brown colored leather lining smeared off and stained my white socks when skating them.
Then I tried the OTW version of the slip on, and they fit looser than Vans usually do. The glue between the canvas and foxing also separated in several spots after a few weeks.
I was pretty disappointed by both because they were so much more expensive than the skate classic versions, but felt so much cheaper.
Everyone posting all these Japanese and Canadian links....y'all they exist on the US site too https://www.vans.com/en-us/shoes-c00081/premium-sk8-mid-shoe-pvn000cqqba2
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteAnyone have a release date for the Curren shoe?[close]
They drop in April.
First colorways are that red one that was previously posted, all black, and a light grey with black sole colorway. That one will have a couple yellow details on it.
The better colorways, in my opinion, come out in the last half of the year. Black/White sole with white contrast stitching, baby blue, all emerald green one that is part of the Atiba drop, and an all white colorway. Those will drop in September and October[close]
where have you guys seen the pics of curren's upcoming shoe?
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteAnyone have a release date for the Curren shoe?[close]
They drop in April.
First colorways are that red one that was previously posted, all black, and a light grey with black sole colorway. That one will have a couple yellow details on it.
The better colorways, in my opinion, come out in the last half of the year. Black/White sole with white contrast stitching, baby blue, all emerald green one that is part of the Atiba drop, and an all white colorway. Those will drop in September and October[close]
where have you guys seen the pics of curren's upcoming shoe?
It looks exactly the same as the first Wayveethat's probably why it's called the wayvee 2. I mean it looks similar but different in enough areas. I had no idea this was even releasing.
Anyone get the winterized gore-Tex half cabs?I have them and they fit pretty true to size. Maybe slightly bigger, but I didn’t have to size down
I’ve gotten some winter vans before, and the sizing was pretty big (probably to account for thicker socks).
Has anyone tried these and and can tell me if they fit true to size?
New Skate Half Cab colourway.
https://www.instagram.com/rulez_yokohama/p/DFr1LrHzZH5/?locale=en_US%2Cen_GB%2Cen_US%2Cen_GB&hl=si&img_index=1
First mesh toe HC?
Expand QuoteNew Skate Half Cab colourway.
https://www.instagram.com/rulez_yokohama/p/DFr1LrHzZH5/?locale=en_US%2Cen_GB%2Cen_US%2Cen_GB&hl=si&img_index=1[close]
First mesh toe HC?
Why do they not make Eras anymore?
Anyone get the winterized gore-Tex half cabs?They're sick as hell, I wish they were a tad higher for deep snow but it has been snowing a ton here and they have came in extremely useful.
I’ve gotten some winter vans before, and the sizing was pretty big (probably to account for thicker socks).
Has anyone tried these and and can tell me if they fit true to size?
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Whoa, yeah they aren't on the Vans page anymore, but you can still choose them in the Customs section for creating your own. A few weeks back i was in a local Vans store and asked a worker why they never have Vans in store, and he said he thought they were online only. Not that I expect a random part time retailer to know what's up, but still. Weird they're not on the site. I only buy Eras. Why would you cut Eras instead of Authentics?
Correct me if I’m wrong, but the Era was the very first skate shoe? That’s why they added the padding.
And it was created for Alva? Or Alva asked for it?
Really hoping Era’s next year are worth the wait
a friend just sent me this because i told him i wanted a pair of all black shoes and was considering getting the blacked out converse as-1sThese look absolutely horrible
but i think i'd rather have these black leather rowan 2s, the black out makes it so you don't notice how much of the shoe the sole takes up
(https://southsideskateshop.com/cdn/shop/files/VN000D3SBLK-Leather-Black-Skate-Rowan-2-Vans-Shoes-straight.jpg?v=1738793405&width=5000)
These look absolutely horribleExpand Quotea friend just sent me this because i told him i wanted a pair of all black shoes and was considering getting the blacked out converse as-1s
but i think i'd rather have these black leather rowan 2s, the black out makes it so you don't notice how much of the shoe the sole takes up
(https://southsideskateshop.com/cdn/shop/files/VN000D3SBLK-Leather-Black-Skate-Rowan-2-Vans-Shoes-straight.jpg?v=1738793405&width=5000)[close]
Holy hell. That thing is Medusa-level hideous.
Expand QuoteHoly hell. That thing is Medusa-level hideous.[close]
https://youtu.be/QpKNsXqZ-08?si=LCIh5cLav1W0pqWT
These look absolutely horribleExpand Quotea friend just sent me this because i told him i wanted a pair of all black shoes and was considering getting the blacked out converse as-1s
but i think i'd rather have these black leather rowan 2s, the black out makes it so you don't notice how much of the shoe the sole takes up
(https://southsideskateshop.com/cdn/shop/files/VN000D3SBLK-Leather-Black-Skate-Rowan-2-Vans-Shoes-straight.jpg?v=1738793405&width=5000)[close]
They still look like shitExpand QuoteThese look absolutely horribleExpand Quotea friend just sent me this because i told him i wanted a pair of all black shoes and was considering getting the blacked out converse as-1s
but i think i'd rather have these black leather rowan 2s, the black out makes it so you don't notice how much of the shoe the sole takes up
(https://southsideskateshop.com/cdn/shop/files/VN000D3SBLK-Leather-Black-Skate-Rowan-2-Vans-Shoes-straight.jpg?v=1738793405&width=5000)[close][close]
they look better in this photo
https://www.instagram.com/p/DGdqfffJlGX/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
third slide
https://www.instagram.com/p/DGywz9TgPQ9/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
Expand QuoteThese look absolutely horribleExpand Quotea friend just sent me this because i told him i wanted a pair of all black shoes and was considering getting the blacked out converse as-1s
but i think i'd rather have these black leather rowan 2s, the black out makes it so you don't notice how much of the shoe the sole takes up
(https://southsideskateshop.com/cdn/shop/files/VN000D3SBLK-Leather-Black-Skate-Rowan-2-Vans-Shoes-straight.jpg?v=1738793405&width=5000)[close][close]
they look better in this photo
https://www.instagram.com/p/DGdqfffJlGX/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
third slide
https://www.instagram.com/p/DGywz9TgPQ9/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
chunky is out. such a played out trend that died during the pandemic
anyone try those Old Skool 36s yet? Old Skool Pros used to be my favorite shoe, but the collar of the new Skate versions would just kill my ankles. I saw these at my local, and they more or less just look like Old Skools with a padded collar and tongue, which honestly sounds pretty up my alley.Theyre really good, just super glue the stitching and you’ll probably really like them. The tounge is a bit wonky at first but breaks in pretty nice.
(https://images.vans.com/is/image/Vans/VN000D5R_BA2_HERO?wid=800&hei=1004&fmt=jpeg&qlt=50&resMode=sharp2&op_usm=0.9,1.5,8,0)
anyone try those Old Skool 36s yet? Old Skool Pros used to be my favorite shoe, but the collar of the new Skate versions would just kill my ankles. I saw these at my local, and they more or less just look like Old Skools with a padded collar and tongue, which honestly sounds pretty up my alley.I honestly dont understand why the skate version of the old skool doesnt have suede in the ollie area like these ones do, it blows my mind.
(https://images.vans.com/is/image/Vans/VN000D5R_BA2_HERO?wid=800&hei=1004&fmt=jpeg&qlt=50&resMode=sharp2&op_usm=0.9,1.5,8,0)
yeah
I was really interested in trying them. I had multiple Rowan 1s and was really happy with them. I wanted to to try a cupsole for a change after all these halfcabs & Rowans
But most if not all colorways were wrong in my eyes (especially the outsole colorblocking / how the layers blend).
Finally pulled the trigger on them and will skate soon.
Outsole seems kinda thick but looks better to me.
(https://www.amigosskateshop.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2024/10/vans_shoes_rowan_2_dark_forest_green-600x600.png)
we're in the same boat the durability and comfort on the rowan 2s are A+
but that thick ass white sole taking up a third of the available real estate just kills me
currently eyeing a pair of the rowan 2/spitfire collabs wondering if i should pull the trigger
(https://assets.vans.com/images/t_img/c_fill,g_center,f_auto,h_573,w_458,e_unsharp_mask:100/dpr_2.0/v1734683313/VN0A2Z3IBFM-ALT2/Vans-X-Spitfire-Wheels-Rowan-2-Shoe.png)
(https://assets.vans.com/images/t_img/c_fill,g_center,f_auto,h_573,w_458,e_unsharp_mask:100/dpr_2.0/v1734683314/VN0A2Z3IBFM-ALT1/Vans-X-Spitfire-Wheels-Rowan-2-Shoe.png)
Saw the Vans Curren Caples shoe in person yesterday. What the fuck is the point. Just wear an Era or Slip On.
i feel like they've slowed down on crockett high colorways. i really hope the shoe sticks around because i do love it.
Would the Rowan 2s fit a wide-ish foot - across the metatarsals? They're going for $50 here in Aus.
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no, if you have a wide foot stay away. Sk8 hi 9.5 fits me perfect for my wide foot. I tried on a 10.5 in the Rowan 2 and the toes still felt tight
Would the Rowan 2s fit a wide-ish foot - across the metatarsals? They're going for $50 here in Aus.
Hoping Crockett's shoe isn't getting dropped, love the low ones (didn't feel the high ones though).Needs an update desperately. The rubber is just so soft on those shoes
Oh and no silly colorways, black with white sole is all we need really.
Expand QuoteWould the Rowan 2s fit a wide-ish foot - across the metatarsals? They're going for $50 here in Aus.[close]
Mine didn't fit until I put a shoe stretcher in them cranked as wide as it goes for a couple days. Now they fit perfectly.
I ordered a pair of Halfcabs.Being nostalgic of those.I used to skate a lot in these in the 90's and 2K's.I wonder if they're still the same.
anyone compared the bmx wafflecup to the sole on the crockett or any skate wafflecups? i had bmx slip-ons i loved but they were also super soft. i hoped that was bmx line specific but if all the wafflecups are like that i won't bother.
Expand QuoteHave anyone ever tried skating the BMX models ?
The old skool and the sk8 hi one?
They seem to have some kind of cupsole. I'm not a nerd for shoes specs, most of them are mkt gimmicks but i would like some insights
Probably wrong thread.[close]
i tried the bmx sk8-hi's two years ago. the rubber compound for the outsole is softer than the skate lines. they mushed out pretty quickly compared to skate sk8-hi's or crocketts. outsole didn't feel as grippy as other skate models. they skated fine but i wouldn't buy them again. i foolishly bought a pair of the bmx slip on's to hang out in and tbh they look like old people shoes without the foxing stripe.
these ones. i thought they looked cool but tbh i didn't like them as much as the skate models.
(https://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFgxNjAw/z/~uEAAOSw8LRjfwyt/$_57.JPG?set_id=880000500F)
thanks for reply. i won't rule out the skate wafflecup entirely then :)Expand Quoteanyone compared the bmx wafflecup to the sole on the crockett or any skate wafflecups? i had bmx slip-ons i loved but they were also super soft. i hoped that was bmx line specific but if all the wafflecups are like that i won't bother.[close]
***SEE BELOW***Expand QuoteExpand QuoteHave anyone ever tried skating the BMX models ?
The old skool and the sk8 hi one?
They seem to have some kind of cupsole. I'm not a nerd for shoes specs, most of them are mkt gimmicks but i would like some insights
Probably wrong thread.[close]
i tried the bmx sk8-hi's two years ago. the rubber compound for the outsole is softer than the skate lines. they mushed out pretty quickly compared to skate sk8-hi's or crocketts. outsole didn't feel as grippy as other skate models. they skated fine but i wouldn't buy them again. i foolishly bought a pair of the bmx slip on's to hang out in and tbh they look like old people shoes without the foxing stripe.
these ones. i thought they looked cool but tbh i didn't like them as much as the skate models.
(https://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFgxNjAw/z/~uEAAOSw8LRjfwyt/$_57.JPG?set_id=880000500F)[close]
thanks for reply. i won't rule out the skate wafflecup entirely then :)Expand QuoteExpand Quoteanyone compared the bmx wafflecup to the sole on the crockett or any skate wafflecups? i had bmx slip-ons i loved but they were also super soft. i hoped that was bmx line specific but if all the wafflecups are like that i won't bother.[close]
***SEE BELOW***Expand QuoteExpand QuoteHave anyone ever tried skating the BMX models ?
The old skool and the sk8 hi one?
They seem to have some kind of cupsole. I'm not a nerd for shoes specs, most of them are mkt gimmicks but i would like some insights
Probably wrong thread.[close]
i tried the bmx sk8-hi's two years ago. the rubber compound for the outsole is softer than the skate lines. they mushed out pretty quickly compared to skate sk8-hi's or crocketts. outsole didn't feel as grippy as other skate models. they skated fine but i wouldn't buy them again. i foolishly bought a pair of the bmx slip on's to hang out in and tbh they look like old people shoes without the foxing stripe.
these ones. i thought they looked cool but tbh i didn't like them as much as the skate models.
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Expand QuoteExpand QuoteWhy do they not make Eras anymore?[close]
Whoa, yeah they aren't on the Vans page anymore, but you can still choose them in the Customs section for creating your own. A few weeks back i was in a local Vans store and asked a worker why they never have Vans in store, and he said he thought they were online only. Not that I expect a random part time retailer to know what's up, but still. Weird they're not on the site. I only buy Eras. Why would you cut Eras instead of Authentics?[close]
I have read on here (somewhere) that the Era shoe is coming up to the 50th anniversary or something so they are holding off releasing any more until this big release.
Seems kind of silly for people who actually want to wear that shoe and like it - I sure have had / do have a lot of them - but I guess this is Vans we are talking about so no one really knows and most of the newer shoes released just don't make sense to me any more, compared to almost any shoe going back a number of years when I would see the samples and think I didn't have enough money / room for all the new awesome shoes coming out.
Any which way, hopefully some normal ones will come out soon enough, along with some other shoes that seem to have been missing from the lineup that are true staples that people have been asking for, but I am not holding my breath.
Sorry for the mini rant there - Vans are all I wear so I am glad I have stocked up when I did, otherwise I would be wondering where to go to get anything decent, like some people I know who have gone to other brands more recently, just because Vans didn't have what they wanted.
Hoping Crockett's shoe isn't getting dropped, love the low ones (didn't feel the high ones though).Heard there's a new color of the high coming out next week of the high. Looking forward to it.
Oh and no silly colorways, black with white sole is all we need really.
I still have a pair of 112 pros on hand. I do wish they were always in the rotation. I love that shoe.
Expand QuoteI still have a pair of 112 pros on hand. I do wish they were always in the rotation. I love that shoe.[close]
Also used to love skating the Style 112 Pro!
Has it been available in years?
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI still have a pair of 112 pros on hand. I do wish they were always in the rotation. I love that shoe.[close]
Also used to love skating the Style 112 Pro!
Has it been available in years?[close]
The "Pro" shoes got dropped five years ago now for the "Skate" lines and I don't recall seeing any since, although I didn't look that hard, but I think Ronnie Sandoval was skating some 112 Mids for a time, but I am guessing they were older stock, compared to newer releases. At least that was going by the release of the first Rowan shoe in Feb 2020 - says on the box 15 Feb 2020 when I was looking at some the other day, which was the pre cursor to the Skate line, which did well and then all the Skate line started coming out not long after that.
Was there another more recent release of the 112 in a BMX shoe I think? Looked it up Style 114 is that one, no toe cap but similar upper, not quite the same. Another good shoe dropped by the wayside, or maybe forgotten when Daan VDL went to Nike?
I really don't know.
In the 80s there was a run of Hi-Tops with toe caps. I can't find any photos after a brief search, so not sure how long they were available for.It's a different model called the style 138.
edit: Here's Diane Desiderio wearing a pair.
(https://i.imgur.com/ULxx2EA.png)
Finally trying skate half cabs and do not like the pop cush insoles. Do people have recommendations for insoles that are a bit thinner but still have some heel rise?
Expand QuoteFinally trying skate half cabs and do not like the pop cush insoles. Do people have recommendations for insoles that are a bit thinner but still have some heel rise?[close]
I’ve been dropping in Cons, but I would love to have a better answer as well
New Curran Caples pro modelLooks nice but I can imagine that area where you’d get Ollie holes dethreading and flapping out within like one session
(https://i.postimg.cc/vH0f3ZH8/IMG-1036.jpg)
New Curren Caples pro model
(https://i.postimg.cc/vH0f3ZH8/IMG-1036.jpg)
Been peeping Diego Todd repping some Av Classics on his stories lately, possible reissue??
The black oiled suede please!!Expand QuoteBeen peeping Diego Todd repping some Av Classics on his stories lately, possible reissue??[close]
One can only hope. That’s probably my favorite shoe I’ve ever skated in
Expand QuoteBeen peeping Diego Todd repping some Av Classics on his stories lately, possible reissue??[close]
One can only hope. That’s probably my favorite shoe I’ve ever skated in
If anyone at Vans sees this, once again politely requesting you bring the Vans Mike Carroll back into the line. Please and thank you.
https://www.instagram.com/p/DI_wU_upmse/?igsh=MWQ4MnI5aWI2YjIzeQ==
Imagine launching ur vulc pro shoes right during the new balance 933s madness
Expand Quotehttps://www.instagram.com/p/DI_wU_upmse/?igsh=MWQ4MnI5aWI2YjIzeQ==
Imagine launching ur vulc pro shoes right during the new balance 933s madness[close]
I’m actually curious to try out this “vulcanized perfection.” Has there been another time that vans released a vulc model with a fully different sole instead of just slight variations to the foxing like the chima 2 or rowley solos?
https://www.instagram.com/p/DI_wU_upmse/?igsh=MWQ4MnI5aWI2YjIzeQ==
Imagine launching ur vulc pro shoes right during the new balance 933s madness
Yeah, people have loved for ages socks with laces.Expand Quotehttps://www.instagram.com/p/DI_wU_upmse/?igsh=MWQ4MnI5aWI2YjIzeQ==
Imagine launching ur vulc pro shoes right during the new balance 933s madness[close]
Not everyone is 40 + thinking about buying Dad shoes to skate in. It's obviously a completely different market.
Expand Quotehttps://www.instagram.com/p/DI_wU_upmse/?igsh=MWQ4MnI5aWI2YjIzeQ==
Imagine launching ur vulc pro shoes right during the new balance 933s madness[close]
Not everyone is 40 + thinking about buying Dad shoes to skate in. It's obviously a completely different market.
I’m 40+, I don’t want any NB # and am intrigued by these. I don’t have IG, what’s the date/details?Expand QuoteExpand Quotehttps://www.instagram.com/p/DI_wU_upmse/?igsh=MWQ4MnI5aWI2YjIzeQ==
Imagine launching ur vulc pro shoes right during the new balance 933s madness[close]
Not everyone is 40 + thinking about buying Dad shoes to skate in. It's obviously a completely different market.[close]
Considering the 933 basically sold out in a weekend, I don’t know if that’s true
^Wait, is this the Curren??
5/1, but at least two shops have the red canvas colorway. Send me a message if you want links, because I don’t want Vans bitching at shops for not waiting until the drop date.
Wait, is this the Curren??
Ughhh, nevermind then; just gonna go sit in the Ipath thread waiting for an update…Expand QuoteWait, is this the Curren??[close]
Yes it is.
Why are Eras on hiatus???word is they will return next year, possibly with some fanfare as it is 50th anniversary of initial release. definitely annoying to not have them for this reason
Its the best shoe, really missing them from the lineup
Sk8 Lows also seem to not be made anymore (for the last 6-12 months, anyway). It had just become my go to skate shoe. Never tried the pro version, but I'm sure I'd love it.
Expand QuoteSk8 Lows also seem to not be made anymore (for the last 6-12 months, anyway). It had just become my go to skate shoe. Never tried the pro version, but I'm sure I'd love it.[close]
They were good as fuck. Seems like the Grosso is slowly disappearing, too. Both models skate better than the sk8 hi, imo.
My theory is its to better sell the Currens which have the same basic silhouetteword is they will return next year, possibly with some fanfare as it is 50th anniversary of initial release. definitely annoying to not have them for this reasonExpand QuoteWhy are Eras on hiatus???
Its the best shoe, really missing them from the lineup[close]
The tread for those look like freakin shoes for crews tread for anyone who works in retail and is forced to wear those shitty ass shoes.
Black soles... Get us decent colorways for fuck's sake.
Worried about the lack of padding around the ankles but maybe that's not an issue.
Might try a pair at some point (if I read/hear good things about them) but I doubt I'll pay full price for those.
Im not panicking about eras, I prefer to hurt my feet with slip ons. But I wouldn’t consider the era and authentic equal especially since the skate line. The little padding in the heel area is the difference between a nice simple skate shoe and a torture device trying to eat your achilles tendon
My theory is its to better sell the Currens which have the same basic silhouetteExpand Quoteword is they will return next year, possibly with some fanfare as it is 50th anniversary of initial release. definitely annoying to not have them for this reasonExpand QuoteWhy are Eras on hiatus???
Its the best shoe, really missing them from the lineup[close][close]
Yeah I really need a little bit of padding , the authentic also has a different foxing tape.vans skate era:
Its not a panic man, just a preference. Lord forbid I speak my thoughts aloud on a forum about skate shoes
I cant find any Era Pros in 9.5 but yeah show me the light oh almighty one
https://youtu.be/MYfmVY0rRK4?si=-Boqu2WZ2aTcD5ISWhat about it? This shoe has been out for ages
Saw this in my feed
What about it? This shoe has been out for agesExpand Quotehttps://youtu.be/MYfmVY0rRK4?si=-Boqu2WZ2aTcD5IS
Saw this in my feed[close]
(https://i.ibb.co/Vc301k2Y/IMG-8074.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Vc301k2Y)(https://i.ibb.co/cSWQtHtf/IMG-8073.jpg) (https://ibb.co/cSWQtHtf)(https://i.ibb.co/MxhW8z8J/IMG-8072.jpg) (https://ibb.co/MxhW8z8J)
Brown/black and black/black currens. I don’t think they look bad but wouldn’t pay more than $80
Nah those are actually brown. It’s just so dark. Black was skateshop exclusiveExpand Quote(https://i.ibb.co/Vc301k2Y/IMG-8074.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Vc301k2Y)(https://i.ibb.co/cSWQtHtf/IMG-8073.jpg) (https://ibb.co/cSWQtHtf)(https://i.ibb.co/MxhW8z8J/IMG-8072.jpg) (https://ibb.co/MxhW8z8J)
Brown/black and black/black currens. I don’t think they look bad but wouldn’t pay more than $80[close]
Those are the black one. the photos are just bad.
I mean, it doesnt seems like vans cares that much about this launch.
vans skate era:Expand QuoteYeah I really need a little bit of padding , the authentic also has a different foxing tape.
Its not a panic man, just a preference. Lord forbid I speak my thoughts aloud on a forum about skate shoes
I cant find any Era Pros in 9.5 but yeah show me the light oh almighty one[close]
https://innercity.la/products/vans-skate-era-captains-blue?variant=44741043388695
https://deliskatesupply.com/products/vans-skate-era-black-white
https://www.303boards.com/products/vans-skate-era-port-true-white-1
https://plusskateshop.com/products/vans-skate-era-shoes-fatigue?variant=40516435214435
https://plusskateshop.com/products/vans-skate-era-shoes-black-gum?variant=40101380882531
vans era pro
https://www.ebay.com/itm/205131375982?_skw=vans+era+pro&epid=25052837116
I mean this stuff is out there. Vans hasn't moved any good numbers of inventory in years.
What about it? This shoe has been out for agesExpand Quotehttps://youtu.be/MYfmVY0rRK4?si=-Boqu2WZ2aTcD5IS
Saw this in my feed[close]
Expand QuoteWhat about it? This shoe has been out for agesExpand Quotehttps://youtu.be/MYfmVY0rRK4?si=-Boqu2WZ2aTcD5IS
Saw this in my feed[close][close]
I’m lost. The Crockett 2 has been out for ages? From what I see it’s only sold in other countries.
why is nobody talking about SKATE ESTAZZOThose would look great with some jncos
https://www.vans.com/en-us/p/mens-0001/skate-estazzo-shoe-VN000D45BA5 (https://www.vans.com/en-us/p/mens-0001/skate-estazzo-shoe-VN000D45BA5)
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Expand QuoteExpand QuoteWhat about it? This shoe has been out for agesExpand Quotehttps://youtu.be/MYfmVY0rRK4?si=-Boqu2WZ2aTcD5IS
Saw this in my feed[close][close]
I’m lost. The Crockett 2 has been out for ages? From what I see it’s only sold in other countries.[close]
That video is 9 years old.
why is nobody talking about SKATE ESTAZZOThese are very interesting in person, same sole as the Cab 4 but the upper is quite a bit puffier.
https://www.vans.com/en-us/p/mens-0001/skate-estazzo-shoe-VN000D45BA5 (https://www.vans.com/en-us/p/mens-0001/skate-estazzo-shoe-VN000D45BA5)
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And just like that, vans is not promoting currens shoes anymore !
On to the next palace bullshit.
Their mkt department sucks
I guess it is subjective, but Vans seems to consistently put out the absolute worst colorways for their skate shoes and it gets kind of annoying, because I do like skating them. Just seems like a lot of their shoes in a given drop (from the skate line) have some loud or unconventional, zumiez esque colorway, or it’s just plain ugly- maybe as some attempt to stand out from the other brands?they have no cohesion across all of their lines, like the designs are all over the place and they don't know what kind of a company they even are.
Yeah I had a flick through the site a couple days ago and have no idea what they're going for. So much money is getting blown on ugly random styles and colours. Saw some terrace style shoes when walking past a Vans shop the other day. Who's asking for those with an ugly stripe?it's hard to convince people to buy mediocre quality shoes that fall apart quicker than most other brands. or you ask them to pony up another $20-30 to get the premium model, something closer to what they should be in the first place. keep in mind this is the same company that continues to sponsor surfers, despite being a sport where Vans main product is not even worn.
https://www.instagram.com/p/DJZZQvKpw_O/
I thought it was hilarious+1
i dunno i thought it was pretty tongue in cheek satire of those perfume commercials playing off curren's model-like handsomeness
but i agree some skate clips woulda been nice
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https://www.instagram.com/p/DJZZQvKpw_O/[close]
That was a weird wannabe take on some kind of luxury designer commercial.
also he did say on his recent bunt interview that an accompanying part will be coming out for the shoe so it's not like this is the only piece of media we're getting
obviously not gonna be a 2 song banger like his part from last year but it'll be good to see the shoe on foot in footage
I tried the red Curren shoes on yesterday. The fit was slightly bigger than other Vans Skate vulcs, similar in fit to the Skate Authentic. The shoe feels like a mix of an Era and a Rowley.Do you go half a size down in the authentics, or is tts good but just a little roomy?
Do you go half a size down in the authentics, or is tts good but just a little roomy?Expand QuoteI tried the red Curren shoes on yesterday. The fit was slightly bigger than other Vans Skate vulcs, similar in fit to the Skate Authentic. The shoe feels like a mix of an Era and a Rowley.[close]
Do you go half a size down in the authentics, or is tts good but just a little roomy?Expand QuoteI tried the red Curren shoes on yesterday. The fit was slightly bigger than other Vans Skate vulcs, similar in fit to the Skate Authentic. The shoe feels like a mix of an Era and a Rowley.[close]
You think they run half size big? I think they fit perfectly true to size. A perfect fit if you ask me. They are comfy
Got a pair of the red currens and thought it might be worthwhile to mention how it compares to the vulc classics it’s pulling inspiration from.
The biggest difference is the tread. In terms of grip, it’s probably just even a bit grippier than the classics. Though not sure how it holds up long term compared to the classics. In terms of feel, like when you scooch your feet around, they feel a bit more like blazers or even somewhat like the emerica Dickson’s/hobans.
The other main difference is the sidewall. It’s lower in the front than the classics by about the same size difference you see from classics and their “wrapped” version. But the foxing goes up to normal and maybe even a little bit higher than normal as it goes to the heel. I imagine it gives it more stability.
The upper feels pretty good. It actually feels like it’s got more meat than an old skool, it has just a bit more structured of a feel. This makes it feel more premium imo than the classics. But the ankle sits lower so i still think the old skool does get a more secure fit but it’s really not by much. It’s definitely way more than you get from an authentic/slip on/era. The currens have the heel padded pretty good at the sides with none at all at the back so it hugs it pretty well, and I didn’t have any issues with it digging into my achilles. I think the shoe it’s closest to in feeling was the Chima 2 and maybe a bit like the sport lows. One issue I had was that the placing of the eyelets makes it so I tear easily into the laces towards my heel.
The logo also isn’t really an issue if you fully lace them up, which I think feels better anyways. And they felt pretty tts for me.
TLDR; in between an era and an old skool and could be great for those who find the usual vulc wrap on vans to be a bit too much.
Blanc de Blanc (off white leather) in June
Anyone got a heads up on future colorways of the Curren? I want to try a pair but need a different colorway than the initial drop..
Expand QuoteBlanc de Blanc (off white leather) in June[close]
Do tell us that these won't come with a silly black sole.
Expand QuoteLight Grey / Black sole should release soon
Blanc de Blanc (off white leather) in June
I'll check FW25 colorways when i can[close]
White sole
Those?These look like "we have new balance 440 trails at home"
Anyone skate the Lizzie Low? How’s the sizing on those?
I’m getting mixed sizing reviews every where I look.
Can anyone here with the red currents check and see if the suede is real or synthetic?
I’m looking for some vegan Vans, and have heard conflicting reports about those ones
Expand QuoteCan anyone here with the red currents check and see if the suede is real or synthetic?
I’m looking for some vegan Vans, and have heard conflicting reports about those ones[close]
It's suede.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWCksysUcBI (if it was vegan he would have called it out)
https://www.vans.com/en-us/p/skate/shoes-5225/skate-curren-caples-shoe-VN000D85Y52 (Leather upper, again if vegan, they'd have called it out; pics look like hte OG all canvas when they dropped the announcement).
Got the grey pair, I really like how it fits/feels like a snug slipon
There is the new Vegan Halfcab?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npMsr8ufvVo
Expand QuoteAnyone skate the Lizzie Low? How’s the sizing on those?
I’m getting mixed sizing reviews every where I look.[close]
I have skated a couple pairs in my normal 9 and they fit good for actual skating. A little tighter than the other Skate stuff, since it's built on a female last. That means it's a little tighter in the heel, which is good for heel lock. Since most are suede in the forefoot they will stretch to fit your feet a bit.
But if you want them for just casual wear, I would go a half size up.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteCan anyone here with the red currents check and see if the suede is real or synthetic?
I’m looking for some vegan Vans, and have heard conflicting reports about those ones[close]
It's suede.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWCksysUcBI (if it was vegan he would have called it out)
https://www.vans.com/en-us/p/skate/shoes-5225/skate-curren-caples-shoe-VN000D85Y52 (Leather upper, again if vegan, they'd have called it out; pics look like hte OG all canvas when they dropped the announcement).
Got the grey pair, I really like how it fits/feels like a snug slipon
There is the new Vegan Halfcab?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npMsr8ufvVo[close]
Thank you!
And i already have those canvas half-cabs! I’m saving them for autumn/winter tho, I’m looking for a lower cut shoe for summer.
I might look into slip-one then
His samples might have been synthetic leather, but unless I see the materials sticker, I don’t believe it. The grain pattern looks real to me. Rowley talked about how he wanted to use synth materials because they last longer, but Vans switched to real suede, leather and nubuck, for the XLT, after a couple colorways. Curren did say in the interview that his shoes in the synthetic leather last a long time. Vans probably switched to real leather so people burn through shoes faster, for the sake of increasing sales.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteCan anyone here with the red currents check and see if the suede is real or synthetic?
I’m looking for some vegan Vans, and have heard conflicting reports about those ones[close]
It's suede.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWCksysUcBI (if it was vegan he would have called it out)
https://www.vans.com/en-us/p/skate/shoes-5225/skate-curren-caples-shoe-VN000D85Y52 (Leather upper, again if vegan, they'd have called it out; pics look like hte OG all canvas when they dropped the announcement).
Got the grey pair, I really like how it fits/feels like a snug slipon
There is the new Vegan Halfcab?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npMsr8ufvVo[close]
Thank you!
And i already have those canvas half-cabs! I’m saving them for autumn/winter tho, I’m looking for a lower cut shoe for summer.
I might look into slip-one then[close]
I’d imagine it would be stated if it was fully vegan, but for what it’s worth, the grey and brown pairs are synthetic leather according to curren in an interview.
Those?
Expand QuoteThose?[close]
He made them look ok
Expand QuoteThose?[close]
He made them look ok
Expand QuoteI also got a pair of these and they’re super sick. Wear them way more than I thought I wouldExpand QuoteThose?[close]
He made them look ok[close]
I just got a pair of those, and honestly they are so good, but I’m also take my dog on a hike everyday so they definitely have my Merrill’s a run for its money
I've been curious about ultrarange and mte vans as I need new work shoes.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI also got a pair of these and they’re super sick. Wear them way more than I thought I wouldExpand QuoteThose?[close]
He made them look ok[close]
I just got a pair of those, and honestly they are so good, but I’m also take my dog on a hike everyday so they definitely have my Merrill’s a run for its money[close]
I’ve had the MTE sk8 hi and currently have the half cabs and are both really good. Have also had a couple ultrarange shoes, but those aren’t good. Fell apart kinda quicklyI've been curious about ultrarange and mte vans as I need new work shoes.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI also got a pair of these and they’re super sick. Wear them way more than I thought I wouldExpand QuoteThose?[close]
He made them look ok[close]
I just got a pair of those, and honestly they are so good, but I’m also take my dog on a hike everyday so they definitely have my Merrill’s a run for its money[close][close]
I'm on my feet outdoors at work and I usually buy adidas running or trail shoes.
Anyone else got any feedback on mte or ultrarange?
Anyone skating the Curren? I've been since they dropped and just recently I've started to get achilles pain on my main push foot after about an hour. Curious if anyone else has this happen or it's just my shoe/wonky foot. Other than that, they've been great, really do feel like a slip on without the slight wiggle room.
Anyone skating the Curren? I've been since they dropped and just recently I've started to get achilles pain on my main push foot after about an hour. Curious if anyone else has this happen or it's just my shoe/wonky foot. Other than that, they've been great, really do feel like a slip on without the slight wiggle room.
I get Achilles pain from all Vans insoles and specifically from the stiffer collar of the Era and Curren. I don't know which is the cause, but I have a very bulbous heel and I think it presses on my tendon.
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Could the release of the Curren shoe also be the reason the Era shoe has not had any recent new shoe options?
I do recall people saying it is coming up to 50 years of the Era so something is in the works, but to push the Curren shoe, I could see not releasing very similar shoes in the lead up to get more people to buy his pro shoe something that would be considered by the powers that be.
Do the Currens fit true to size or do they run kinda smaller like the new (Skate) Slip Ons?
If I wear a 11.5 in Skate Half Cabs, Skate SK8 Mids and Crocketts, should I go for a 11.5 or a 12 in Currens? Thanks.
Do the Currens fit true to size or do they run kinda smaller like the new (Skate) Slip Ons?
If I wear a 11.5 in Skate Half Cabs, Skate SK8 Mids and Crocketts, should I go for a 11.5 or a 12 in Currens? Thanks.
I want the AV3 back.
Expand QuoteI want the AV3 back.[close]
That’s the vans buzenitz basically right?? I had the red colorway for that shoe and they skated pretty well
VanchestersExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI want the AV3 back.[close]
That’s the vans buzenitz basically right?? I had the red colorway for that shoe and they skated pretty well[close]
(https://sneakernews.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/vans_waiks08june_004.jpg)
yeah, these were awesome. they didn't last great if i remember correctly but they skated great, and they were always on sale so i skated probably 4 or 5 pairs of them before they werent around.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI want the AV3 back.[close]
That’s the vans buzenitz basically right?? I had the red colorway for that shoe and they skated pretty well[close]
(https://sneakernews.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/vans_waiks08june_004.jpg)
yeah, these were awesome. they didn't last great if i remember correctly but they skated great, and they were always on sale so i skated probably 4 or 5 pairs of them before they werent around.
I miss when AVE had sick shoes
Thinking of getting some AVE 2.0 for chillers, non-knit version. I've read they run narrow, but going 1/2 a size up and they're too long.
I've got a wide foot thanks to bunions, will the AVE 2.0 be murder on my feet?
Expand QuoteThinking of getting some AVE 2.0 for chillers, non-knit version. I've read they run narrow, but going 1/2 a size up and they're too long.
I've got a wide foot thanks to bunions, will the AVE 2.0 be murder on my feet?[close]
I have a medium/not-wide foot, and they are snug but skate and feel good once broken in. Great arch support, too. Not sure if a wide foot will take to it though. If you can try them on in-store or have a free return option, it might be worth your while.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteThinking of getting some AVE 2.0 for chillers, non-knit version. I've read they run narrow, but going 1/2 a size up and they're too long.
I've got a wide foot thanks to bunions, will the AVE 2.0 be murder on my feet?[close]
I have a medium/not-wide foot, and they are snug but skate and feel good once broken in. Great arch support, too. Not sure if a wide foot will take to it though. If you can try them on in-store or have a free return option, it might be worth your while.[close]
Thanks for that, if a medium foot a snug then a wide foot like mine will be torture. Passing on them.
Expand QuoteI miss when AVE had sick shoes[close]
He’s wearing the AVE classics on Ginger’s grave in his stories
Hopefully they fixed that half-circle on inside that wasn’t aligned with the arch. Always bugged me
Kyle Walker "Wafflecup"? At least they're simplistic. https://skateparkoftampa.com/products/vans-kyle-walker-wafflecup-shoes?variant=51876730405137
Today I ordered some AVE 2.0's in Estate Blue suede with the ice blue fade. Psyched to try out some tech Vans after decades of skating the classics
Those are ass.
Ewww, it still says 'Kyle Walker' on it.
Who is Kyle walker?
Kyle Walker's shoes have always been Wafflecup. SPoT must have just labeled them oddly. They've also been aorund for forever - why is everyone acting like these are new?
Thanks, I missed out on the Smurf NB Tom Knox's and these kinda scratch that itch for meExpand QuoteToday I ordered some AVE 2.0's in Estate Blue suede with the ice blue fade. Psyched to try out some tech Vans after decades of skating the classics[close]
The blue are sick!
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It is an updated version of the shoe. Beefed up, grippier sole, thicker tongue, no pull on loop, and a couple different panels.
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He’s wearing the AVE classics on Ginger’s grave in his stories
Hopefully they fixed that half-circle on inside that wasn’t aligned with the arch. Always bugged me[close]
Damn autocorrect - HR Giger’s grave
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He’s wearing the AVE classics on Ginger’s grave in his stories
Hopefully they fixed that half-circle on inside that wasn’t aligned with the arch. Always bugged me[close]
Damn autocorrect - HR Giger’s grave[close]
DM'd him like a man. Asked him about the AV Classics. He said they'll be back.
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It is an updated version of the shoe. Beefed up, grippier sole, thicker tongue, no pull on loop, and a couple different panels.
Vans only has two dope pro .models right now,, AVE 2.0 and Rowan 2. In that order. That other shit makes me think of Kohl's.
Expand QuoteVans only has two dope pro .models right now,, AVE 2.0 and Rowan 2. In that order. That other shit makes me think of Kohl's.[close]
Half Cabs & Gilbert Crockett pro models would like a stern word with you
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteVans only has two dope pro .models right now,, AVE 2.0 and Rowan 2. In that order. That other shit makes me think of Kohl's.[close]
Half Cabs & Gilbert Crockett pro models would like a stern word with you[close]
And the Currens
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteVans only has two dope pro .models right now,, AVE 2.0 and Rowan 2. In that order. That other shit makes me think of Kohl's.[close]
Half Cabs & Gilbert Crockett pro models would like a stern word with you[close]
And the Currens[close]
imo the rowan 1s are way more dope than the 2s - i just cannot visually get over how a third of the shoe is just sole
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteVans only has two dope pro .models right now,, AVE 2.0 and Rowan 2. In that order. That other shit makes me think of Kohl's.[close]
Half Cabs & Gilbert Crockett pro models would like a stern word with you[close]
And the Currens[close]
imo the rowan 1s are way more dope than the 2s - i just cannot visually get over how a third of the shoe is just sole[close]
I'm with ya on the look, but in performance the 2s smoke the 1s. You gain so much more durability and support that the small loss in boardfeel is stil practical. Personally, I also feel like there's too much canvas on most of the vulc models.
But yeah, that sole on the 2s is as tall as a curb. And I haven't been a big fan of most of the colorways.
Fuck, now I want another pair of Rowans....
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i thought they were always wafflecup? the updates look pretty sick tbh.
new:
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old:
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The Euclid were part of one of those OTC collections with the weird construction. Not a full wafflecup.
I think the Stage 4 low and mids and Gilbert's first pro model were the initial interation of the wafflecup but it has changed a lot since then.
I got a pair of the Rowan 2s after seeing them cut in half on Weartested. Good impact protection. Skates great. I love this shoe.
I’m not a fan of most of the colorways, but I got a pair in black.
The sizing feels snugger than most other Vans but it works for my feet.
I always liked Vans as a brand but skating in floppy vulcs hurts my feet so I’m glad they made this.
I got a pair of the Rowan 2s after seeing them cut in half on Weartested. Good impact protection. Skates great. I love this shoe.
I’m not a fan of most of the colorways, but I got a pair in black.
The sizing feels snugger than most other Vans but it works for my feet.
I always liked Vans as a brand but skating in floppy vulcs hurts my feet so I’m glad they made this.
Expand QuoteThe Euclid were part of one of those OTC collections with the weird construction. Not a full wafflecup.
I think the Stage 4 low and mids and Gilbert's first pro model were the initial interation of the wafflecup but it has changed a lot since then.[close]
Thanks for posting that video.
Funny that started fifteen years ago now, maybe when times were more simple.
The video and concept and even the look of everything to start with was amazing, simple, clean, especially the look of the first shoes they all were given to try - when you have a simple black upper and white trim, everything just works.
Then the end product I recall a lot of shops saying those shoes were a great concept but the end results were just horrible and didn't sell, apart from the Andrew Allen navy all suede colourway, which I might have had a pair of back in the day.
Maybe I have more simple tastes too, but I wonder if they had "normal looking" shoes, if that whole line hadn't done a whole lot better in sales.
FA25
SP26
3 colorways on FA25
Theoretically 2 colorways on SP26
Rowan 1s are still in rotation too
The Wafflecup Half Cabs should be out soon.
if they dumped Corey Glick -
we never buy a thing from them again
3 colorways on FA25
Theoretically 2 colorways on SP26
Rowan 1s are still in rotation too
Its impressive how fast vans remove their models from their lines.it’s all sales based. Rowan 1s still going strong and the walker 1s have been sold all this time and just got a redesign.
Rowan 2 is the sickest shoes they released in a while.
I’ve had my eye on these but I’m waiting to see if they ever go on sale for like $50-60I would love to see a Cab 6 reissue
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I heard Rowan 2 going away after next year.
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SP26[close]
Any decent Skate Half Cab and Curren colorways? Thanks.
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SP26[close]
Any decent Skate Half Cab and Curren colorways? Thanks.[close]
inquiring minds would also like to know about some new half cabs
https://www.tiktok.com/@vans/video/7542538595240774926
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I heard Rowan 2 going away after next year.[close]
Fuck... When's the optimal time to stock up?
Ill say it again
The era dimes are cool a f
So, how are those Currens? Comfort? Fit? Durability? Board feel? Thanks!Tbh the currens are the best vans that have been put out in a while, they are comfortable, they fit my food great, definitely good board feel
Tbh the currens are the best vans that have been put out in a while, they are comfortable, they fit my food great, definitely good board feel
Tbh the currens are the best vans that have been put out in a while, they are comfortable, they fit my food great, definitely good board feelExpand QuoteSo, how are those Currens? Comfort? Fit? Durability? Board feel? Thanks![close]
Ill say it again
The era dimes are cool a f
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Expand QuoteIll say it again
The era dimes are cool a f[close]
they look like last resorts
Expand QuoteIll say it again
The era dimes are cool a f[close]
So?
Dunks look like 480s, Mango's shoes look like Sambas, Dilos look like halfcabs, hobans look likes janoskis, blazers low look like stan smiths. The list goes on and on.
A few days ago every shoe had toe caps like Chucks.
they look like last resorts
The half cab waffle cups are much better than I thought they would be. Very nice fit on foot
Where they at bruh?Expand QuoteThe half cab waffle cups are much better than I thought they would be. Very nice fit on foot[close]
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I am, that’s a no from me, dawg.
(https://i.ibb.co/XZpHqybS/wafflecuphalfcab.webp) (https://ibb.co/XZpHqybS)
I'm not sure about these, haha
Yeah can 6 would be cool. I think the 6 is what I did my first kickflip in.I would love to see a Cab 6 reissueExpand QuoteI’ve had my eye on these but I’m waiting to see if they ever go on sale for like $50-60
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Yeah, these just look wrong to me
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Yeah, these just look wrong to me[close]
Where are you getting these photos from?
The sole does look weird.
Like u see the original foxing tape (as mentioned above) is sitting inside the cupsole
I'm not sure how else to explain it
I still want the black ones tho
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Yeah, these just look wrong to me[close]
Where are you getting these photos from?
The sole does look weird.
Like u see the original foxing tape (as mentioned above) is sitting inside the cupsole
I'm not sure how else to explain it
I still want the black ones tho[close]
I just googled 'Half Cab Cupsole' and those 4 colors popped up.
This shop in Logan, Utah has some:
https://www.directiveboardshop.com/products/vans-skate-wafflecup-half-cab-black-asphalt?variant=43078690603143
Vans, how about making Eras instead of all these new models that will be discontinued in a year..I want an era without the fake leather collar. shit gives me blisters
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteIll say it again
The era dimes are cool a f[close]
they look like last resorts[close]
If last resorts looked good, but these do last resorts look but better, imo[close]
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These look better than those Eras imo. No bullshit on them...
Vans needs to bail that checker flag and just put the classic vans tab on the skate shoes. Its amazing how they are the "orginal skate shoes" but cant figure out their "skate" program
Vans, how about making Eras instead of all these new models that will be discontinued in a year..
All I want are era pros back. Padded collar.Expand QuoteVans, how about making Eras instead of all these new models that will be discontinued in a year..[close]
The Era was introduced in 1976 so be patient till SP26 and be prepared for some surprises
I’d also take regular non skate half cabs.
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Yeah, these just look wrong to me
Also, it's been so long since I've worn/tried on Vans vulcs. That popcush insole doesn't feel as comfortable to me like they did back in 2017-2020 when I wore a lot of Vans Pros. You could get these and swap an insole for a better fit tho? I'll let others who've done that with Vans Skate/Pro models chime in on that!
Vans never ever gets anything right. They need an entirely new design team.
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Yeah, these just look wrong to me[close]
Anyone tried these on yet??
I did read your post but not very well apparently as I thought you were talking about cab 4'sExpand QuoteExpand Quote
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Yeah, these just look wrong to me[close]
Anyone tried these on yet??[close]
Scroll up and see my post! I tried them on in store. They felt okay, but they left me wanting more out of a "cupsole" half cab offering
I did read your post but not very well apparently as I thought you were talking about cab 4'sExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quote
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Yeah, these just look wrong to me[close]
Anyone tried these on yet??[close]
Scroll up and see my post! I tried them on in store. They felt okay, but they left me wanting more out of a "cupsole" half cab offering[close]
Thanks for that now I'm not going to rush to get the half cab cupsole
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Yeah, these just look wrong to me[close]
Anyone tried these on yet??
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Yeah, these just look wrong to me[close]
Anyone tried these on yet??[close]
Tried these on the other day and they're really nice, very similar feeling to the original, but I really like the extra puffy tongue. Didn't get to push around on them yet, but I want to see how the wafflecup feels in this model.
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Yeah, these just look wrong to me[close]
Anyone tried these on yet??[close]
Tried these on the other day and they're really nice, very similar feeling to the original, but I really like the extra puffy tongue. Didn't get to push around on them yet, but I want to see how the wafflecup feels in this model.[close]
Mm maybe not thrilled on the extra puffy tongue. Thought some of the new era of half cabs like the Rizzo had too puffy of tongues which combines with laces that seemed too short made a frustrating experience
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Yeah, these just look wrong to me[close]
Anyone tried these on yet??[close]
Tried these on the other day and they're really nice, very similar feeling to the original, but I really like the extra puffy tongue. Didn't get to push around on them yet, but I want to see how the wafflecup feels in this model.[close]
Mm maybe not thrilled on the extra puffy tongue. Thought some of the new era of half cabs like the Rizzo had too puffy of tongues which combines with laces that seemed too short made a frustrating experience[close]
I had Half Cab 92s with a puffier tongue and when I tried these on, they felt slimmer than those based on my memory of the 92s. The puff throughout the shoe doesn't feel overwhelming, imo. It felt proportional, so I'm gonna hazard a guess you wouldn't have the same short lace/fat tongue problem you're describing
@Atiba Applebum which safe lows? I have the blue with black sole and they are very comfortable
The booty is actually really nice as you can't feel the usual vans stitching
Wafflecup halfcab arrived today there is one shop in Australia that has them
Localitystore.com.au if your here
Got the black ones and im not mad at them.
My first thought was wayvee x halfcab,
I was surprised that they have a toungue stash pocket ???
Very nice I Haven't seen those before
@Atiba Applebum which safe lows? I have the blue with black sole and they are very comfortable
The booty is actually really nice as you can't feel the usual vans stitching
Wafflecup halfcab arrived today there is one shop in Australia that has them
Localitystore.com.au if your here
Got the black ones and im not mad at them.
My first thought was wayvee x halfcab,
I was surprised that they have a toungue stash pocket ???
Is there any other difference between “pro” vans besides the insoles? To me they seem the exact same thing. I just sent my friend a link to some $20 slip ins and he said “nah I can’t do the generic ones, they blow out too fast”… I am pretty sure he is tripping not me and there is no additional material on the sides of pro models (we are talking slip ons here… if we are comparing bf a half cab or Crockett ok but he is saying strictly slip ons have more material on the sides and I think there’s no way…)Duracap underlays
The vans Curren/Bunt collab is coming
Sick cw
Expand QuoteThe vans Curren/Bunt collab is coming
Sick cw[close]
Are they the all black one with red tints in that reel?
Does anyone know if/when the Era (Skate Era) is coming back to Vans?
With them releasing the premium/OTW collections + Dime pulling out their spin on the model, had me thinking it's potentially in the works (hoping).
Does anyone know if/when the Era (Skate Era) is coming back to Vans?
With them releasing the premium/OTW collections + Dime pulling out their spin on the model, had me thinking it's potentially in the works (hoping).
Expand QuoteVans, how about making Eras instead of all these new models that will be discontinued in a year..[close]
The Era was introduced in 1976 so be patient till SP26 and be prepared for some surprises
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteThe vans Curren/Bunt collab is coming
Sick cw[close]
Are they the all black one with red tints in that reel?[close]
It’s got like a pebbled basketball texture and they might actually be orange stitching (like the shoe is a reverse basketball colorway)
I can’t wait til the Curren does the classic vans dark blue/light blue. I had always wanted to see the half cab version and Lottie’s nailed it
Brown was the launching colorway
(https://freedomskateshop.fr/cdn/shop/files/vans-vans-curren-caples-skateschuh-dark-brown-9198020_540x.webp?v=1752083214)
You might be looking for another shade of brown though
A "Two-tone Blue" cw is coming for SP26
The two tones are not way different though
not a contrasted one like the usual Navy Old Skool.
Does anyone know if/when the Era (Skate Era) is coming back to Vans?
With them releasing the premium/OTW collections + Dime pulling out their spin on the model, had me thinking it's potentially in the works (hoping).
Expand QuoteVans, how about making Eras instead of all these new models that will be discontinued in a year..[close]
The Era was introduced in 1976 so be patient till SP26 and be prepared for some surprises
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteThe vans Curren/Bunt collab is coming
Sick cw[close]
Are they the all black one with red tints in that reel?[close]
It’s got like a pebbled basketball texture and they might actually be orange stitching (like the shoe is a reverse basketball colorway)
I can’t wait til the Curren does the classic vans dark blue/light blue. I had always wanted to see the half cab version and Lottie’s nailed it
Does anyone know if/when the Era (Skate Era) is coming back to Vans?
With them releasing the premium/OTW collections + Dime pulling out their spin on the model, had me thinking it's potentially in the works (hoping).
I mean they aren’t my style, I can’t pull off the 14th century Protestant aesthetic, but you do you
Brown was the launching colorway
(https://freedomskateshop.fr/cdn/shop/files/vans-vans-curren-caples-skateschuh-dark-brown-9198020_540x.webp?v=1752083214)
You might be looking for another shade of brown though
A "Two-tone Blue" cw is coming for SP26
The two tones are not way different though
not a contrasted one like the usual Navy Old Skool.
Wasn't the launch one marked as black/red, not brown ?
No more black sole colorways, PLEASE.
https://www.instagram.com/p/DOd9s36jr1B/?img_index=2 (https://www.instagram.com/p/DOd9s36jr1B/?img_index=2)Get this out of here, come on vans
I heard thru the grape vine vans skate line is getting waffelcupped.just like halfcabs did, sk8hi old skool and i think eras.
Expand QuoteI heard thru the grape vine vans skate line is getting waffelcupped.just like halfcabs did, sk8hi old skool and i think eras.[close]
No sk8 hi…. All the rest! Era looking good
I could see those Efron shoes doing really well. Probably nto among us, but fashion people.fashion people are not buying hot topic vans trust me. unless by fashion people you mean goth in which case yea it could do well in that sector.
Expand QuoteNo more black sole colorways, PLEASE.[close]
1,000,000% agree but I hear they sell well
not sure if this was posted but Im getting these hi suede for sure
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not sure if this was posted but Im getting these hi suede for sure
(https://easternboarder.com/cdn/shop/files/Vans-Skate-Authentic-High-Black-White-3.jpg?v=1752063803&width=1800)
https://www.instagram.com/p/DOd9s36jr1B/?img_index=2 (https://www.instagram.com/p/DOd9s36jr1B/?img_index=2)
Another colorway of the wafflecup Half Cab. Looks better than the launch white colorway in my opinion. When are we gonna get an official announcement from Vans?
https://www.urbanesteamboat.com/products/skate-half-cab-wafflecup
Expand QuoteAnother colorway of the wafflecup Half Cab. Looks better than the launch white colorway in my opinion. When are we gonna get an official announcement from Vans?
https://www.urbanesteamboat.com/products/skate-half-cab-wafflecup[close]
^ I believe that's Atiba's colorway
The non existent launch is weird,
at first I thought these shops were selling them early
Completely hypothetical but if a goth lady walked up to the bar wearing the Efron pilgrim 1s, I’d definitely try and chat her up using the shoes as an icebreaker, and if things went well I could prolly use them as a literal icebreaker when I was making drinks back at my place, once again completely hypothetical, god knows in real life I’m scared to talk to women
$100 for a Vans shoe is absurd
maybe VF corp sold the wrong company after all...Expand Quote$100 for a Vans shoe is absurd[close]
You interested in $130 Authentics?
(https://atlasskateboarding.com/cdn/shop/files/VansAuthenticOTW0925Atiba_1200x.jpg?v=1758136191)
has anyone tried the waffle cup yet? retail is $95 and I'd honestly rather hold off unless they're solid
I was referring more specifically to the half cab. I think the wafflecup changed recently because they just updated the kyle walker, so this seems to be different than the ones prior. also, I could be wrong, but it looks like they may have discontinued the crockett? maybe it'll be reintroduced with the new sole. the old wafflecup went bald so quickly.Expand Quotehas anyone tried the waffle cup yet? retail is $95 and I'd honestly rather hold off unless they're solid[close]
The new half cab wafflecup or do you mean any waffle cup model in general ? Many of us have skated Gilbert Crockett Lo/Hi, Kwalks 1, and other wafflecup models over the years. They're good shoes. $95 is bordering not worth it because after all, they're Vans. Vans aren't too durable long term.
Anyone know if last resorts fixed their durability issue yet? I need an excuse not to skate vansi just finished up skating a pair of vm001 highs in suede. i don’t do a lot of flip tricks but i did feel that the suede held up ok! i can’t say the same for the soles though, but i personally just hate when soles get bald quickly. if you’re going to get a pair, i’d get the cup soles as those last a little longer in my experience.
If thats a forest green currens with black sole and white laces i'm fucking buying it.
We need more cw like that.
Hummph, i dont know man...
Atibas outfit have always been trash. He has a wack ass taste
Expand QuoteIf thats a forest green currens with black sole and white laces i'm fucking buying it.
We need more cw like that.[close]
All green
https://www.vans.com/en-us/p/skate/shoes-5225/skate-curren-caples-by-atiba-jefferson-VN000D85EME
Why they made the sole so weird?
The whole concepts is cool. But look at the side wall of the sole... eww
3 colors curren shoe $41 on vans
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picked up the brown colorway. Hoping theyre comfortable. I'd prefer to figure a way to get the text off the tongue.
the brown ones appear to have the tongue graphic screened onExpand QuoteExpand Quote3 colors curren shoe $41 on vans[close]
picked up the brown colorway. Hoping theyre comfortable. I'd prefer to figure a way to get the text off the tongue.[close]
Isn’t a sewn on piece? Seems easy to pop off
Oh wild. Just noticed the atiba colorway has a completely different shape of panel as well.On the Half Cab or the Curren? I'm not seeing any paneling differences for either ???
On the Half Cab or the Curren? I'm not seeing any paneling differences for either ???Expand QuoteOh wild. Just noticed the atiba colorway has a completely different shape of panel as well.[close]
Expand QuoteOn the Half Cab or the Curren? I'm not seeing any paneling differences for either ???Expand QuoteOh wild. Just noticed the atiba colorway has a completely different shape of panel as well.[close][close]
the tongue has a panel on the green curren's shown in the link previously, but all the other curren shoes dont have an added panel on the tongue, just screened on text.
Incorrect. In fact, I think the above photo is an older photo. Every current I’ve seen looks like this
https://www.tactics.com/vans/skate-curren-caples-shoes/dark-brown
Expand QuoteIncorrect. In fact, I think the above photo is an older photo. Every current I’ve seen looks like this
https://www.tactics.com/vans/skate-curren-caples-shoes/dark-brown[close]
the ones i ordered from the vans site have the photo with the screened tongue (referenced older photo). Maybe they changed and they're dumping old ones. Hopefully it's just a photo error and I can get the ones with the panel to remove.
Anyone tried Safe Lows before (the kinda Carroll/Halfcab low shoe). Seeing some great color ways coming out
Expand QuoteAnyone tried Safe Lows before (the kinda Carroll/Halfcab low shoe). Seeing some great color ways coming out[close]
Is that the bootie liner? Curious what it’s functionality is…vans aren’t roomy to begin with
It’s one of those shoes with the Lycra stuff.
I went half a size up because it was what was available.
They do feel great, it’s kind of a bummer they’re on a vulc sole with all the padding.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteIncorrect. In fact, I think the above photo is an older photo. Every current I’ve seen looks like this
https://www.tactics.com/vans/skate-curren-caples-shoes/dark-brown[close]
the ones i ordered from the vans site have the photo with the screened tongue (referenced older photo). Maybe they changed and they're dumping old ones. Hopefully it's just a photo error and I can get the ones with the panel to remove.[close]
The ones I’ve seen in person all have the panel too. If not, I think the laces will cover enough for you
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteIncorrect. In fact, I think the above photo is an older photo. Every current I’ve seen looks like this
https://www.tactics.com/vans/skate-curren-caples-shoes/dark-brown[close]
the ones i ordered from the vans site have the photo with the screened tongue (referenced older photo). Maybe they changed and they're dumping old ones. Hopefully it's just a photo error and I can get the ones with the panel to remove.[close]
The ones I’ve seen in person all have the panel too. If not, I think the laces will cover enough for you[close]
thanks, I appreciate the confirmation
@Atiba Applebum / @finecojeffe
sorry for the wrong photo, but it was used on the Vans B2B platform.
I actually sold a pair to a friend (without caring about this detail) and his have the sewn on patch
Any other Curren owners feel like the laces are too short… At least on the brown ones?
Expand QuoteAny other Curren owners feel like the laces are too short… At least on the brown ones?[close]
I got black ones (with while sole, OF COURSE) and the length of the laces is alright (unlike every single pair of Skate Half Cabs I've had these last 3 years).
Only wore them at work for 3 days, gonna start skating in them sometime soon. Pretty comfy so far.
I hope the AV classics are coming back out, been seeing him and Diego wear them a lot latelyI do too, but hope that they don’t fuck them up by adding a sidestripe or something like they did with the sk8-lows…
I do too, but hope that they don’t fuck them up by adding a sidestripe or something like they did with the sk8-lows…Expand QuoteI hope the AV classics are coming back out, been seeing him and Diego wear them a lot lately[close]
Love itExpand QuoteI do too, but hope that they don’t fuck them up by adding a sidestripe or something like they did with the sk8-lows…Expand QuoteI hope the AV classics are coming back out, been seeing him and Diego wear them a lot lately[close][close]
Yesssss, please! One of my all-time favorite shoes
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Am I the only person on here thinking that those new Wafflecup Half Cabs look absolutely horrible?
Am I the only person on here thinking that those new Wafflecup Half Cabs look absolutely horrible?
Expand QuoteAm I the only person on here thinking that those new Wafflecup Half Cabs look absolutely horrible?[close]
+1, saw them in person and it only confirmed my feelings
I went for a two mile walk in the wafflecup half cabs yesterday and they were surprisingly comfortable.
I skated them today and they felt broken in within 30 minutes. The sole is very grippy. They fit more snug than the sk8 half cabs, which I like because my foot doesn’t move around in the shoe. The heel is comfortable and supportive. I didn’t get to test the impact protection, but I suspect it’s pretty good. Board feel is just slightly less than the sk8 half cabs.
Overall, I think they do a good job of adding comfort without any major sacrifices compared to the sk8 half cabs. I really liked the Zahba for its impact protection, and these feel similar but less chunky in the sole
VANS GIVE US WHAT WE WANT
(https://i.ibb.co/zwkn0XD/IMG-9439.jpg) (https://ibb.co/zwkn0XD)
AVE seen wearing the AVE classics in his Instagram story. Fingers are crossed. Hoping these come back.
Anyone have anymore info on those currens that are all black with the orange hints? Does the black fade away to orange?
I skated for 4 hours today. Impact protection is really good. I have the black/asphalt ones that have a few areas or what looks like ripstop fabric. This makes them breathe better than the all suede ones, my feet didn’t get sweaty at all. I used to always wear the blackout sk8 half cabs and my feet would sweat so badExpand QuoteI went for a two mile walk in the wafflecup half cabs yesterday and they were surprisingly comfortable.
I skated them today and they felt broken in within 30 minutes. The sole is very grippy. They fit more snug than the sk8 half cabs, which I like because my foot doesn’t move around in the shoe. The heel is comfortable and supportive. I didn’t get to test the impact protection, but I suspect it’s pretty good. Board feel is just slightly less than the sk8 half cabs.
Overall, I think they do a good job of adding comfort without any major sacrifices compared to the sk8 half cabs. I really liked the Zahba for its impact protection, and these feel similar but less chunky in the sole[close]
Would love to hear your (and anyone elses) thoughts after a few sessions/month or 2. They don’t look too crazy in person. I figure they should last longer than the reg versions and maybe keep shape a little better over time.
VANS GIVE US WHAT WE WANTExpand Quote
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AVE seen wearing the AVE classics in his Instagram story. Fingers are crossed. Hoping these come back.[close]
I got the Atiba colorway and they really feel like a more comfortable half cab. The look of the sole isn’t my favorite but not noticeable when you’re looking down at them. They skate the same in my opinion but just some more cushioning on the sole and tongue. Thought I would hate them but upon first skate I really like them and will probably get the black and white pair as wellI skated for 4 hours today. Impact protection is really good. I have the black/asphalt ones that have a few areas or what looks like ripstop fabric. This makes them breathe better than the all suede ones, my feet didn’t get sweaty at all. I used to always wear the blackout sk8 half cabs and my feet would sweat so badExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI went for a two mile walk in the wafflecup half cabs yesterday and they were surprisingly comfortable.
I skated them today and they felt broken in within 30 minutes. The sole is very grippy. They fit more snug than the sk8 half cabs, which I like because my foot doesn’t move around in the shoe. The heel is comfortable and supportive. I didn’t get to test the impact protection, but I suspect it’s pretty good. Board feel is just slightly less than the sk8 half cabs.
Overall, I think they do a good job of adding comfort without any major sacrifices compared to the sk8 half cabs. I really liked the Zahba for its impact protection, and these feel similar but less chunky in the sole[close]
Would love to hear your (and anyone elses) thoughts after a few sessions/month or 2. They don’t look too crazy in person. I figure they should last longer than the reg versions and maybe keep shape a little better over time.[close]
I don't know what people expected wafflecup Half-Cabs to look like. They look exactly like I would expect.I personally was hoping for more of a sole like the crockett
Man idk if anyone remembers this shoe but I think it was an AVE model. I had it in all red with white sole, it was one piece of suede for the toe cap. Pretty thin but durable enough & really light and form fitting, probably around 2010/2011. Loved it, would be stoked to find an old picture. Somewhere around the time of TNT 5 era
Man idk if anyone remembers this shoe but I think it was an AVE model. I had it in all red with white sole, it was one piece of suede for the toe cap. Pretty thin but durable enough & really light and form fitting, probably around 2010/2011. Loved it, would be stoked to find an old picture. Somewhere around the time of TNT 5 era
AVE 2.0s are so fucking underrated. I NEVER see anyone wearing them. Best pro model Vans has out atm. I balked at the $120 retail but had to give in. It's tech and classic vans done right. The sole compound is crazy grippy.
I personally was hoping for more of a sole like the crockettExpand QuoteI don't know what people expected wafflecup Half-Cabs to look like. They look exactly like I would expect.[close]
I think I found a picture of Zions pro model but can’t post it on here. Anyone know how to shrink the file down so I can post it?
Expand QuoteI think I found a picture of Zions pro model but can’t post it on here. Anyone know how to shrink the file down so I can post it?[close]
Damn he def does not deserve one
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI think I found a picture of Zions pro model but can’t post it on here. Anyone know how to shrink the file down so I can post it?[close]
Damn he def does not deserve one[close]
Y not? Kid is sick.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI think I found a picture of Zions pro model but can’t post it on here. Anyone know how to shrink the file down so I can post it?[close]
Damn he def does not deserve one[close]
Y not? Kid is sick.[close]
Pedro deserves one. Consistently rips. Zion just pops up at a vans event every once in a while and is certainly good, but so what?
I think I found a picture of Zions pro model but can’t post it on here. Anyone know how to shrink the file down so I can post it?
I like Pedro as much as the next guy. But to say Zion doesn’t deserve one is a shit take.
Thank you!!!Expand QuoteI think I found a picture of Zions pro model but can’t post it on here. Anyone know how to shrink the file down so I can post it?[close]
Just google Resize Image. 1st result is pretty good.
Image resizer i guess...
New Vans Shoe (Possibly Zions pro model)
I’ll try to resize it againExpand QuoteNew Vans Shoe (Possibly Zions pro model)[close]
That image is too small.
(https://i.imgur.com/EXeJUzu.gif)Expand QuoteNew Vans Shoe (Possibly Zions pro model)[close]
That image is too small.
hahahaha! This is great! I had to shrink the image down 95% just to get it to a size I can post on here. I’ll keep trying to resize it(https://i.imgur.com/EXeJUzu.gif)Expand QuoteExpand QuoteNew Vans Shoe (Possibly Zions pro model)[close]
That image is too small.[close]
keep it stock/original size, upload it on imgbb and share the link. Someone will embed it if you don't know how to do it.thanks I’m gonna do that now
(https://i.ibb.co/3mCkM2MY/IMG-8056.png)thanks for embedding that!!!
Why do we think it’s a Zion? Just says VansI could’ve sworn someone on here mentioned he was getting a shoe so I thought it was his! Could definitely be a team model tho
I could’ve sworn someone on here mentioned he was getting a shoe so I thought it was his! Could definitely be a team model thoExpand QuoteWhy do we think it’s a Zion? Just says Vans[close]
Why do we think it’s a Zion? Just says Vansam I the only one seeing something that looks like ZION on the tongue ?
am I the only one seeing something that looks like ZION on the tongue ?Expand QuoteWhy do we think it’s a Zion? Just says Vans[close]
That shoe is ugly as fuck. I can’t imagine it selling. I hope the curren stays around for a long time. Really been digging it as I’m getting back into vulcs.
am I the only one seeing something that looks like ZION on the tongue ?Expand QuoteWhy do we think it’s a Zion? Just says Vans[close]
Expand Quoteam I the only one seeing something that looks like ZION on the tongue ?Expand QuoteWhy do we think it’s a Zion? Just says Vans[close][close]
I actually think it says ZION one way and VANS if you look at it in a mirror. Kinda like an ambigram.
Great skater but I can’t imagine people actually looking at Zion and wanting to wear anything in his kit.
Expand QuoteGreat skater but I can’t imagine people actually looking at Zion and wanting to wear anything in his kit.[close]
yea tons of people want to skate like zion, but i imagine no one really wants to emulate his style
with that logic tho, who would make the most sense for vans to give a pro model to? maybe jamie platt?
yea tons of people want to skate like zion, but i imagine no one really wants to emulate his style
with that logic tho, who would make the most sense for vans to give a pro model to?
Great skater but I can’t imagine people actually looking at Zion and wanting to wear anything in his kit.They probably think of him as their Nyjah so they can cover the mainstream Olympic/street league market. But hes just nowhere as relevant.
I wonder if Zion is like those other tech-y shoes where they’re trying to get the e-kid/IG skater and non-skate/fashion people still.there is no fashion person who is going to buy tech vans let alone most vans currently. IG skaters just wear dunks and superstars. tech shoes are not trending right now except for maybe new balance. if that is really Vans new target audience then they somehow have lost the plot even more than before.
All canvas?
Vans just cant get it right
Expand QuoteAll canvas?
Vans just cant get it right[close]
Yeah, the first couple pairs of these that I had (10 yrs ago?) were all canvas. Personally, I like the canvas, but suede is cool too.
Hopefully sooner than later!
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New Vans BMX wafflecup shoe. Wonder how they would skate. Has anyone skated the BMX line?
there is no fashion person who is going to buy tech vans let alone most vans currently. IG skaters just wear dunks and superstars. tech shoes are not trending right now except for maybe new balance. if that is really Vans new target audience then they somehow have lost the plot even more than before.Expand QuoteI wonder if Zion is like those other tech-y shoes where they’re trying to get the e-kid/IG skater and non-skate/fashion people still.[close]
Expand QuoteHopefully sooner than later!
(https://i.ibb.co/5xRknYzR/IMG-9599.jpg) (https://ibb.co/5xRknYzR)[close]
http://www.instagram.com/p/DP1_oC-gb6y/
+1Expand QuoteExpand QuoteHopefully sooner than later!
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http://www.instagram.com/p/DP1_oC-gb6y/[close]
I just want those oiled black ones and I will buy 5 pair to have on ice and won't be skating any of them.
keep it stock/original size, upload it on imgbb and share the link. Someone will embed it if you don't know how to do it.
Expand Quotekeep it stock/original size, upload it on imgbb and share the link. Someone will embed it if you don't know how to do it.[close]
Posted these in the slim skate shoe thread already but finally found some pics of the Wafflecup Eras and Old Skools (apologies for the pics being so blurry file compression is a bitch)
Expand QuoteExpand Quotekeep it stock/original size, upload it on imgbb and share the link. Someone will embed it if you don't know how to do it.[close][close]
Word here's full quality, got another HalfCup colorway in there too
https://ibb.co/G4MVpPVg
https://ibb.co/MkWpX58X
https://ibb.co/VpzX9Bwz
Maybe I'm crazy, or maybe I've just wanted a cupsole Era since 2014 but I don't really mind the look of the sole. I have the new Kyle Walkers with the same sole and it doesn't look platformy in person, so I'd assume the Eras will look similar once broken in
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quotekeep it stock/original size, upload it on imgbb and share the link. Someone will embed it if you don't know how to do it.[close]
https://ibb.co/G4MVpPVg
https://ibb.co/MkWpX58X
https://ibb.co/VpzX9Bwz[close]
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These are horrendous dogshit
And now, half cab deconhttps://www.instagram.com/p/DP4LWj9jT9T/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
I like it. No photos
https://youtu.be/Up-qQUHGnVI
Just throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks
Well the Vans motif is a checkerboard so....
https://www.instagram.com/p/DP4LWj9jT9T/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==Expand QuoteAnd now, half cab decon
I like it. No photos[close]
I'm not sure about this
Edit: I like how cab is already in the comments trying to rationalize the shoe
Expand Quotehttps://www.instagram.com/p/DP4LWj9jT9T/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==Expand QuoteAnd now, half cab decon
I like it. No photos[close]
I'm not sure about this
Edit: I like how cab is already in the comments trying to rationalize the shoe[close]
Can we just have normal half cabs again?! Just the god damn OG ones please
Expand Quotehttps://youtu.be/Up-qQUHGnVI
Just throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks[close]
Ah yes the cerebral game of checkers.
Expand Quotehttps://www.instagram.com/p/DP4LWj9jT9T/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==Expand QuoteAnd now, half cab decon
I like it. No photos[close]
I'm not sure about this
Edit: I like how cab is already in the comments trying to rationalize the shoe[close]
Are those of us you Cab blocked for trying to have an honest discussion around Free Speech Vs Hate Speech allowed to buy this shoe?
Expand QuoteExpand Quotehttps://www.instagram.com/p/DP4LWj9jT9T/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==Expand QuoteAnd now, half cab decon
I like it. No photos[close]
I'm not sure about this
Edit: I like how cab is already in the comments trying to rationalize the shoe[close]
Are those of us you Cab blocked for trying to have an honest discussion around Free Speech Vs Hate Speech allowed to buy this shoe?[close]
I think this is the part where you give your money to someone you feel deserves it more.
Expand QuoteExpand Quotehttps://www.instagram.com/p/DP4LWj9jT9T/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==Expand QuoteAnd now, half cab decon
I like it. No photos[close]
I'm not sure about this
Edit: I like how cab is already in the comments trying to rationalize the shoe[close]
Can we just have normal half cabs again?! Just the god damn OG ones please[close]
how long has it been since the og half cab was available? i feel like the last few pairs i skated were around 2008/2009.
after that it was the the ‘pro’ that i saw around most often and that beefed up version never really appealed to me.
i also imagine that the ‘decon’ is a slimmed down version of whatever iteration is being produced now?
(https://i.ibb.co/8D7XGwt0/IMG-1737.jpg) (https://ibb.co/8D7XGwt0)
New Vans BMX wafflecup shoe. Wonder how they would skate. Has anyone skated the BMX line?
https://www.pastemagazine.com/music/american-football/american-football-vans-house-party-scene-report
Saw this article today about American Football getting a colorway. I had no idea Atiba's brother was the Vans creative director, lmao.
..."Their friend Ako Jefferson, who is the Creative Director at Vans, and Ako’s twin Atiba, a renowned photographer who co-purchased the Urbana home with the band and also works for the shoe brand, had the idea to not only launch an American Football shoe, but also throw an epic house party to celebrate, complete with its own built-in skate park."...
SZA is nothing but a marketing front for Vans. Atiba got his bro a job under the guise of SZA.
Expand Quotehttps://www.pastemagazine.com/music/american-football/american-football-vans-house-party-scene-report
Saw this article today about American Football getting a colorway. I had no idea Atiba's brother was the Vans creative director, lmao.[close]
Ako is SZA?
https://www.pastemagazine.com/music/american-football/american-football-vans-house-party-scene-reportalmost like they deliberately picked the most insufferable people imaginable to run vans. they had American Football taking turns playing drums to charli xcx, robyn, and destiny's child, with the frontman's girlfriend singing a karaoke version of Shania Twain’s “Man! I Feel Like a Woman!”
Saw this article today about American Football getting a colorway. I had no idea Atiba's brother was the Vans creative director, lmao.
Did they even sell any of the 2 tbh
Expand QuoteDid they even sell any of the 2 tbh[close]
I got some 2s. Loved the Rowan 1s and I feel like they are an upgrade in almost every way. But I’m currently skating skate old schools but if I was gonna have a long session I’d probably run them or if I was gonna skate something where I want more cushion.
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Looks like Rowan is wearing a new Vans shoe most likely a rowan 3?
Definitely looks like the same toe panelling as his other models and would make sense since theyre phasing out the 2.
Hopefully it's the same sole as the 2
where do you see differences ?
I'm pretty sure these are Rowan 2s
Edit: I see a different stitching on the toe box (similar to a sk8-Hi stitching), different stitching on the side (his right foot) and the last top lace hole stitching is square (it's round on the 2s)Sorry but you are not allowed to view spoiler contents.
yes you're right.Expand Quotewhere do you see differences ?
I'm pretty sure these are Rowan 2s
Edit: I see a different stitching on the toe box (similar to a sk8-Hi stitching), different stitching on the side (his right foot) and the last top lace hole stitching is square (it's round on the 2s)Sorry but you are not allowed to view spoiler contents.[close]
The Outsole unit is definitely different too... I mean, It's not a huge departure from the previous 2 so I get it why it's not super exciting. Wouldn't be surprised if it's just a sample either.
almost like they deliberately picked the most insufferable people imaginable to run vans. they had American Football taking turns playing drums to charli xcx, robyn, and destiny's child, with the frontman's girlfriend singing a karaoke version of Shania Twain’s “Man! I Feel Like a Woman!”Expand Quotehttps://www.pastemagazine.com/music/american-football/american-football-vans-house-party-scene-report
Saw this article today about American Football getting a colorway. I had no idea Atiba's brother was the Vans creative director, lmao.[close]
this brand is so cooked
I do not understand how anyone can fit their foot comfortably inside the Rowan 2 😬 i went up a whole size and they were still narrow everywhere. I assume most who've elected to not buy them share this experience + didn't like the look perhaps.
Hopefully, if those are Rowan 3s, they fit closer to the Rowan 1 than the 2
Expand QuoteI do not understand how anyone can fit their foot comfortably inside the Rowan 2 😬 i went up a whole size and they were still narrow everywhere. I assume most who've elected to not buy them share this experience + didn't like the look perhaps.
Hopefully, if those are Rowan 3s, they fit closer to the Rowan 1 than the 2[close]
Had the same problem.
And i refuse to go up a whole size.
I know its been two year, but how do u guys feel about the rowans 2?
Expand QuoteI know its been two year, but how do u guys feel about the rowans 2?[close]
I enjoy/enjoyed mine. I found them comfy and snug like a hug on your foot. But some dudes saying they are tight so if you can maybe try them on. They skate great.
I know its been two year, but how do u guys feel about the rowans 2?
i just rewatched GIMME A BREAK and tfunk alone made me bought 3 different cws of skate old skools
His outfits are not for everyone, but i like how he uses colors without looking fresh.
Ok but why are they so much flimsyer than the vulc ones?For real, the suede quality seems pretty sub-par. Especially for $10 more than the classics. The quality on the Atiba colorway seems a little better. I think having the ripstop material makes it a little less structurally sound.
Ok but why are they so much flimsyer than the vulc ones?
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Totally agree they “feel” flimsy. But they’ve been durable for me and the upper contours my foot better. They feel light. The tongue is the right amount of puffy and Vans finally have the length of the shoelaces dialed in. Doesn’t feel like a cupsole, but I like that. Still have great board feel.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteOk but why are they so much flimsyer than the vulc ones?[close]
Totally agree they “feel” flimsy. But they’ve been durable for me and the upper contours my foot better. They feel light. The tongue is the right amount of puffy and Vans finally have the length of the shoelaces dialed in. Doesn’t feel like a cupsole, but I like that. Still have great board feel.[close]
I’m a bit of a skate shoe hoarder (not proud of it, ok). Even with a shelf full of Tiagos, Dunks, NB Reynolds, and a variety of Vans vulcs, the wafflecup Half Cabs are what I keep going back to.
did they change the fit of the skate slip on's? i got a pair of the purple suede ones and they fit me comfortably - then i got a pair of the brown suede ones in the same size and they feel so freakin' tight on the top of my foot it's insane.I've had this exact same thing happen to me with two different colourways of Eras, even in the same line.
purple: https://www.vans.com/fr-ca/p/chaussures-00081/skate-slip-on-shoe-VN0A2Z31PCA (https://www.vans.com/fr-ca/p/chaussures-00081/skate-slip-on-shoe-VN0A2Z31PCA)
brown: https://www.kingswell.tv/vans-skate-slip-on-chocolate-brown.html?srsltid=AfmBOop8Fr3JAflwP4KuRv8k-_GE2R5mFZJoEWlXWmFbZCVGREejPWGX-ao (https://www.kingswell.tv/vans-skate-slip-on-chocolate-brown.html?srsltid=AfmBOop8Fr3JAflwP4KuRv8k-_GE2R5mFZJoEWlXWmFbZCVGREejPWGX-ao)
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteOk but why are they so much flimsyer than the vulc ones?[close]
Totally agree they “feel” flimsy. But they’ve been durable for me and the upper contours my foot better. They feel light. The tongue is the right amount of puffy and Vans finally have the length of the shoelaces dialed in. Doesn’t feel like a cupsole, but I like that. Still have great board feel.[close]
I’m a bit of a skate shoe hoarder (not proud of it, ok). Even with a shelf full of Tiagos, Dunks, NB Reynolds, and a variety of Vans vulcs, the wafflecup Half Cabs are what I keep going back to.
Anyone skated the old skool wafflecup have any opinions/review?
Gratitude Skate Shop posted this new colorway of vans skate era, no snub toe. Not skating vans anymore but I know a lot of people were curious about them bringing the era back.
(https://i.ibb.co/0VWMptBt/Screenshot-20260122-082228-Instagram.jpg)
Expand QuoteGratitude Skate Shop posted this new colorway of vans skate era, no snub toe. Not skating vans anymore but I know a lot of people were curious about them bringing the era back.
(https://i.ibb.co/0VWMptBt/Screenshot-20260122-082228-Instagram.jpg)[close]
They don't have that stupid checkerboard tag either
Looks good
They actually do have the checkerboard tags. It’s white/gray, so it’s not noticeable in that pic.Expand QuoteGratitude Skate Shop posted this new colorway of vans skate era, no snub toe. Not skating vans anymore but I know a lot of people were curious about them bringing the era back.
(https://i.ibb.co/0VWMptBt/Screenshot-20260122-082228-Instagram.jpg)[close]
They don't have that stupid checkerboard tag either
Looks good
I think vans accidentally posted the wafflecup era
https://www.vans.com/en-us/p/shoes/icons/era-5320/skate-era-VN000ECRBA2
They actually do have the checkerboard tags. It’s white/gray, so it’s not noticeable in that pic.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteGratitude Skate Shop posted this new colorway of vans skate era, no snub toe. Not skating vans anymore but I know a lot of people were curious about them bringing the era back.
(https://i.ibb.co/0VWMptBt/Screenshot-20260122-082228-Instagram.jpg)[close]
They don't have that stupid checkerboard tag either
Looks good[close]
Expand QuoteThey actually do have the checkerboard tags. It’s white/gray, so it’s not noticeable in that pic.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteGratitude Skate Shop posted this new colorway of vans skate era, no snub toe. Not skating vans anymore but I know a lot of people were curious about them bringing the era back.
(https://i.ibb.co/0VWMptBt/Screenshot-20260122-082228-Instagram.jpg)[close]
They don't have that stupid checkerboard tag either
Looks good[close][close]
So I shouldn’t believe the vans tag I see with my own eyes?
Expand QuoteThey actually do have the checkerboard tags. It’s white/gray, so it’s not noticeable in that pic.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteGratitude Skate Shop posted this new colorway of vans skate era, no snub toe. Not skating vans anymore but I know a lot of people were curious about them bringing the era back.
(https://i.ibb.co/0VWMptBt/Screenshot-20260122-082228-Instagram.jpg)[close]
They don't have that stupid checkerboard tag either
Looks good[close][close]
So I shouldn’t believe the vans tag I see with my own eyes?
(https://i.ibb.co/nMJMSTG4/IMG-3907.jpg)
Edit: Just to clarify, I meant that it has the checkerboard in the background of the Vans tag, not the full checkerboard tag.
This thread getting no traction or has this forum been dead lately?
8)
Anyway anyone skating 8) the new Era's vulc or cup?
The halfcab wafflecup is a good time.
I always loved the look of Eras but they killed me in the past
Hoping the new ones are somewhat comfortable
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This thread getting no traction or has this forum been dead lately?
8)
Anyway anyone skating 8) the new Era's vulc or cup?
The halfcab wafflecup is a good time.
I always loved the look of Eras but they killed me in the past
Hoping the new ones are somewhat comfortable[close]
I’m tempted but the new era cup but they look bulkier to me. Love eras. But I’m CURRENtly skating the caples
I’m really enjoying them so far. They feel more solid than the old skools I was skating. The grip is nice too
I perfer this muted checkerboard, looks cleaner.Expand Quote
(https://i.ibb.co/nMJMSTG4/IMG-3907.jpg)
Edit: Just to clarify, I meant that it has the checkerboard in the background of the Vans tag, not the full checkerboard tag.[close]
That makes sense now.
Almost looked like another pair had the checkerboard on the back of the tag in one pic, which I guess could still be the case.
Not a worry either way.
Slip on wafflecup whenI came here to ask if anyone has tried the waffle cup Eras..but those would be even better
I am a fan of the Wafflecup Half Cabs.
I would also be interested in a Wafflecup Sk8-Hi.
I caved and got some Skate Authentics. They fit exactly as I want them to, skate the way I want them to, and look the way I want them to. I should probably buy like 6 more pairs so I don't have to mess with anything else.Funny you say that, I did the same thing, and felt the same way, so I bought like six more pairs haha
Funny you say that, I did the same thing, and felt the same way, so I bought like six more pairs hahaExpand QuoteI caved and got some Skate Authentics. They fit exactly as I want them to, skate the way I want them to, and look the way I want them to. I should probably buy like 6 more pairs so I don't have to mess with anything else.[close]
Anyone pick up the new rereleased Eras? The normal vulc ones, not the Wafflecup atrocities.
If so, are they good? Anything changed on em? Do they have tongue straps?
Man I hate the popcush insole. It makes the foot sit way too high and far away from ground. Excellent cushion tho. I got some Skate Kyle Walker shoes. They seem fine but I will try to replace the insole with a flatter one.Same I have to swap in a flatter insole in every pair of vans I buy. The popcush material is great but having my heels elevated makes my knees hurt. Have some of those sti insoles from an old pair of etnies joslins in a pair of currens now and liking that.
Just my personal experience, there are millions of people that seem to love the popcush insoles.
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This thread getting no traction or has this forum been dead lately?
8)
Anyway anyone skating 8) the new Era's vulc or cup?
The halfcab wafflecup is a good time.
I always loved the look of Eras but they killed me in the past
Hoping the new ones are somewhat comfortable[close]
I’m tempted but the new era cup but they look bulkier to me. Love eras. But I’m CURRENtly skating the caples
I’m really enjoying them so far. They feel more solid than the old skools I was skating. The grip is nice too[close]
The era cup reminds me of AVEs first vans shoe
Have any of you tried those Old Skool Wafflecups?
I ordered a pair of Era Wafflecups but had to send them back, they felt comfy but I couldn't deal with the bulkier fit and the way the sole looked bothered me. Seems like that would be less of an issue with the Old Skools.
Any opinions on these? Thanks my friends.
Thanks. I love Skate Old Skools and Skate Eras and am trying hard to convince myself that those soles don't look how they look. Would have been so much better if Vans had used the Wafflecup sole they had on Crockett's shoe. I'll see if I can deal with how the Old Skool Wafflecup looks in person.
Maybe remove their bulky insole and replace with just a thin insole? That way you can get your foot closer to the ground. Better board feel and less chance to roll your ankle.
Alright a quick Photoshop job makes them seem a million times better if you spray paint the brown and green parts of the sole and get rid of that heel loop.
(https://i.ibb.co/0jH5JHKb/179605-0-Vans-Skate-Old-Skool-Wafflecup.jpg)
but I just realised I am wearing the Sk8 low shoes right now, an older pair, but still so good, as I got a lot of them too. I know you were super keen on them, but then they discontinued them in the Skate range, which was rather unfortunate. Such a comfortable shoe for me with my fat busted old ankles.
Alright a quick Photoshop job makes them seem a million times better if you spray paint the brown and green parts of the sole and get rid of that heel loop.
(https://i.ibb.co/0jH5JHKb/179605-0-Vans-Skate-Old-Skool-Wafflecup.jpg)
I noticed vans makes wide fits in the classic old skool, slips, sk8 his and authentics. anyone ever try them? my feet aren't particularly wide but I thought maybe stacking a supportive insole in there would be feasible since there'd be more room? I'm not a fan of the insoles that come in the skate line, way too tall in the heel.
Expand QuoteI noticed vans makes wide fits in the classic old skool, slips, sk8 his and authentics. anyone ever try them? my feet aren't particularly wide but I thought maybe stacking a supportive insole in there would be feasible since there'd be more room? I'm not a fan of the insoles that come in the skate line, way too tall in the heel.[close]
The problem with Vans wide shoes (and I have somewhat wide flat feet) is that the heel is also wide. I find the skate hi sole to be wider than almost all other Vans skate shoes. If you get a pair of skate hi or skate mid you won’t need a wide. you can put a thick insole in and still have plenty of room. The key is to get a pair that comes with their skate insole because it is easily removable. You will have plenty space to add an insole to your liking. Total comfort with great flex and board feel.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI noticed vans makes wide fits in the classic old skool, slips, sk8 his and authentics. anyone ever try them? my feet aren't particularly wide but I thought maybe stacking a supportive insole in there would be feasible since there'd be more room? I'm not a fan of the insoles that come in the skate line, way too tall in the heel.[close]
The problem with Vans wide shoes (and I have somewhat wide flat feet) is that the heel is also wide. I find the skate hi sole to be wider than almost all other Vans skate shoes. If you get a pair of skate hi or skate mid you won’t need a wide. you can put a thick insole in and still have plenty of room. The key is to get a pair that comes with their skate insole because it is easily removable. You will have plenty space to add an insole to your liking. Total comfort with great flex and board feel.[close]
that's funny you mentioned the sk8 hi's because I was looking at those specifically. I want a high top and blazer hi's just felt too much like boots when I tried skating them last summer. and I don't dig any of the other high tops on the market right now. I would go for the skate line and just take out the insoles, but the last feels slimmer compared to the classics. just sucks that the stock glued-in insole is garbage. I'll try a thin one on top of that in some classic sk8 hi's and see how it goes. thanks man.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI noticed vans makes wide fits in the classic old skool, slips, sk8 his and authentics. anyone ever try them? my feet aren't particularly wide but I thought maybe stacking a supportive insole in there would be feasible since there'd be more room? I'm not a fan of the insoles that come in the skate line, way too tall in the heel.[close]
The problem with Vans wide shoes (and I have somewhat wide flat feet) is that the heel is also wide. I find the skate hi sole to be wider than almost all other Vans skate shoes. If you get a pair of skate hi or skate mid you won’t need a wide. you can put a thick insole in and still have plenty of room. The key is to get a pair that comes with their skate insole because it is easily removable. You will have plenty space to add an insole to your liking. Total comfort with great flex and board feel.[close]
that's funny you mentioned the sk8 hi's because I was looking at those specifically. I want a high top and blazer hi's just felt too much like boots when I tried skating them last summer. and I don't dig any of the other high tops on the market right now. I would go for the skate line and just take out the insoles, but the last feels slimmer compared to the classics. just sucks that the stock glued-in insole is garbage. I'll try a thin one on top of that in some classic sk8 hi's and see how it goes. thanks man.[close]
They didn’t used to do that on the skate version of the skate hi. Maybe they changed the sole type over the last 5 years since I bought the skate highs.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI noticed vans makes wide fits in the classic old skool, slips, sk8 his and authentics. anyone ever try them? my feet aren't particularly wide but I thought maybe stacking a supportive insole in there would be feasible since there'd be more room? I'm not a fan of the insoles that come in the skate line, way too tall in the heel.[close]
The problem with Vans wide shoes (and I have somewhat wide flat feet) is that the heel is also wide. I find the skate hi sole to be wider than almost all other Vans skate shoes. If you get a pair of skate hi or skate mid you won’t need a wide. you can put a thick insole in and still have plenty of room. The key is to get a pair that comes with their skate insole because it is easily removable. You will have plenty space to add an insole to your liking. Total comfort with great flex and board feel.[close]
that's funny you mentioned the sk8 hi's because I was looking at those specifically. I want a high top and blazer hi's just felt too much like boots when I tried skating them last summer. and I don't dig any of the other high tops on the market right now. I would go for the skate line and just take out the insoles, but the last feels slimmer compared to the classics. just sucks that the stock glued-in insole is garbage. I'll try a thin one on top of that in some classic sk8 hi's and see how it goes. thanks man.[close]
They didn’t used to do that on the skate version of the skate hi. Maybe they changed the sole type over the last 5 years since I bought the skate highs.[close]
I can't say for all of them, but they have definitely reduced the waffle sole in size over recent years, some maybe more than others, as some of the special range were so very narrow at the point of the rubber sole, compared to the rest of the shoe, so much so that some people were saying they had way more chance of ankle roll because of it and had to put in a thinner insole to counteract the height.
This pic is a good example, as most of the older shoes I have the white trim is way more straight up and down |___| when compared to the new ones which is more like this \___/ but I don't know to what extent they have implemented that on any newer shoes.
https://www.vans.com.au/premium-old-skool-36-vn00cqdba2-blk.html
(https://www.vans.com.au/media/catalog/product/v/n/vn00cqdba2_blk_04_1.jpg)
I think you are onto something with the angle of the sidewall showing narrowness of the sole.
Have you ever skated ‘made for the makers’? They are like an improved version of the lifestyle line. You don’t get duracap but the insole looks pretty good.
They look wider than the skate line and maybe constructed better.
https://www.vans.com/en-us/p/shoes/icons/old-skool-5205/old-skool-mftm-series---iii-VN000MXPB9M
Box opening from Blue Tile Lounge
https://m.youtube.com/watch?si=5chg0QnjHsWzouLI&v=ryEEHGcZON0&feature=youtu.be
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI noticed vans makes wide fits in the classic old skool, slips, sk8 his and authentics. anyone ever try them? my feet aren't particularly wide but I thought maybe stacking a supportive insole in there would be feasible since there'd be more room? I'm not a fan of the insoles that come in the skate line, way too tall in the heel.[close]
The problem with Vans wide shoes (and I have somewhat wide flat feet) is that the heel is also wide. I find the skate hi sole to be wider than almost all other Vans skate shoes. If you get a pair of skate hi or skate mid you won’t need a wide. you can put a thick insole in and still have plenty of room. The key is to get a pair that comes with their skate insole because it is easily removable. You will have plenty space to add an insole to your liking. Total comfort with great flex and board feel.[close]
that's funny you mentioned the sk8 hi's because I was looking at those specifically. I want a high top and blazer hi's just felt too much like boots when I tried skating them last summer. and I don't dig any of the other high tops on the market right now. I would go for the skate line and just take out the insoles, but the last feels slimmer compared to the classics. just sucks that the stock glued-in insole is garbage. I'll try a thin one on top of that in some classic sk8 hi's and see how it goes. thanks man.[close]
They didn’t used to do that on the skate version of the skate hi. Maybe they changed the sole type over the last 5 years since I bought the skate highs.[close]
I can't say for all of them, but they have definitely reduced the waffle sole in size over recent years, some maybe more than others, as some of the special range were so very narrow at the point of the rubber sole, compared to the rest of the shoe, so much so that some people were saying they had way more chance of ankle roll because of it and had to put in a thinner insole to counteract the height.
This pic is a good example, as most of the older shoes I have the white trim is way more straight up and down |___| when compared to the new ones which is more like this \___/ but I don't know to what extent they have implemented that on any newer shoes.
https://www.vans.com.au/premium-old-skool-36-vn00cqdba2-blk.html
(https://www.vans.com.au/media/catalog/product/v/n/vn00cqdba2_blk_04_1.jpg)[close]
I think you are onto something with the angle of the sidewall showing narrowness of the sole.
Have you ever skated ‘made for the makers’? They are like an improved version of the lifestyle line. You don’t get duracap but the insole looks pretty good.
They look wider than the skate line and maybe constructed better.
https://www.vans.com/en-us/p/shoes/icons/old-skool-5205/old-skool-mftm-series---iii-VN000MXPB9M
Box opening from Blue Tile Lounge
https://m.youtube.com/watch?si=5chg0QnjHsWzouLI&v=ryEEHGcZON0&feature=youtu.be
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI noticed vans makes wide fits in the classic old skool, slips, sk8 his and authentics. anyone ever try them? my feet aren't particularly wide but I thought maybe stacking a supportive insole in there would be feasible since there'd be more room? I'm not a fan of the insoles that come in the skate line, way too tall in the heel.[close]
The problem with Vans wide shoes (and I have somewhat wide flat feet) is that the heel is also wide. I find the skate hi sole to be wider than almost all other Vans skate shoes. If you get a pair of skate hi or skate mid you won’t need a wide. you can put a thick insole in and still have plenty of room. The key is to get a pair that comes with their skate insole because it is easily removable. You will have plenty space to add an insole to your liking. Total comfort with great flex and board feel.[close]
that's funny you mentioned the sk8 hi's because I was looking at those specifically. I want a high top and blazer hi's just felt too much like boots when I tried skating them last summer. and I don't dig any of the other high tops on the market right now. I would go for the skate line and just take out the insoles, but the last feels slimmer compared to the classics. just sucks that the stock glued-in insole is garbage. I'll try a thin one on top of that in some classic sk8 hi's and see how it goes. thanks man.[close]
They didn’t used to do that on the skate version of the skate hi. Maybe they changed the sole type over the last 5 years since I bought the skate highs.[close]
I can't say for all of them, but they have definitely reduced the waffle sole in size over recent years, some maybe more than others, as some of the special range were so very narrow at the point of the rubber sole, compared to the rest of the shoe, so much so that some people were saying they had way more chance of ankle roll because of it and had to put in a thinner insole to counteract the height.
This pic is a good example, as most of the older shoes I have the white trim is way more straight up and down |___| when compared to the new ones which is more like this \___/ but I don't know to what extent they have implemented that on any newer shoes.
https://www.vans.com.au/premium-old-skool-36-vn00cqdba2-blk.html
(https://www.vans.com.au/media/catalog/product/v/n/vn00cqdba2_blk_04_1.jpg)[close]
I think you are onto something with the angle of the sidewall showing narrowness of the sole.
Have you ever skated ‘made for the makers’? They are like an improved version of the lifestyle line. You don’t get duracap but the insole looks pretty good.
They look wider than the skate line and maybe constructed better.
https://www.vans.com/en-us/p/shoes/icons/old-skool-5205/old-skool-mftm-series---iii-VN000MXPB9M
Box opening from Blue Tile Lounge
https://m.youtube.com/watch?si=5chg0QnjHsWzouLI&v=ryEEHGcZON0&feature=youtu.be[close]
I have had probably a dozen pairs of these and would never skate in them. They have a lugged non slip sole for working in kitchens.
Alright a quick Photoshop job makes them seem a million times better if you spray paint the brown and green parts of the sole and get rid of that heel loop.
(https://i.ibb.co/0jH5JHKb/179605-0-Vans-Skate-Old-Skool-Wafflecup.jpg)
Expand QuoteAlright a quick Photoshop job makes them seem a million times better if you spray paint the brown and green parts of the sole and get rid of that heel loop.
(https://i.ibb.co/0jH5JHKb/179605-0-Vans-Skate-Old-Skool-Wafflecup.jpg)[close]
I pulled the trigger and kept those Old Skool Wafflecups I just got as they feel comfy and I want to know how I can skate in them. I love Old Skools but they're not protective enough for my old feet, we'll see how these feel.
I tried to spray paint the sole but the texture on the stupid brown and green parts made that hard so I colored it with an edding 8050 tyre marker and the result is pretty decent in my book. I got rid of the heel loop too, of course. I'm going to wear those to work for a minute, I'll start skating in them when my Skate Half Cabs will be done.
(https://i.ibb.co/b5cnBgfr/Photo-02-04-26-18-19-46.jpg)
Expand QuoteAlright a quick Photoshop job makes them seem a million times better if you spray paint the brown and green parts of the sole and get rid of that heel loop.
(https://i.ibb.co/0jH5JHKb/179605-0-Vans-Skate-Old-Skool-Wafflecup.jpg)[close]
I pulled the trigger and kept those Old Skool Wafflecups I just got as they feel comfy and I want to know how I can skate in them. I love Old Skools but they're not protective enough for my old feet, we'll see how these feel.
I tried to spray paint the sole but the texture on the stupid brown and green parts made that hard so I colored it with an edding 8050 tyre marker and the result is pretty decent in my book. I got rid of the heel loop too, of course. I'm going to wear those to work for a minute, I'll start skating in them when my Skate Half Cabs will be done.
(https://i.ibb.co/b5cnBgfr/Photo-02-04-26-18-19-46.jpg)
Nice cat. What about something like this under your sock…
https://www.tommiecopper.com/arch-ankle-support-sleeve-mens/?gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=23634709877&gbraid=0AAAAADtjgm4-uZtJx-M3U5HaYyfq4i-fV&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIt4fgotjPkwMVvUL_AR13YBtTEAQYAiABEgJ3wvD_BwE
You did a good job. They look so much better now. Gives me hope when I get some I can make them look normal too. Ha
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Today I got out and went to a few other shops and got to see the new Era and Old Skool you guys had posted above, but didn't have time to try them on or anything else.
They sure are quite stiff in the body, compared to the basic vulc options, which one would expect, so I think they would hold up better, but might also take a little more time to break in or get used to.
I would definitely have to change out the insole to something that would work better for me, but it is easy enough too, so I wonder if some of those people who would run thinner or softer insoles would agree with those shoes, or they might not be so painful underfoot.
Maybe the only thing I thought was funny was the change of materials on the side, but I guess I am pretty simple in that regard - just suede when or where I can or canvas if they must, but that other mixed material is a bit funny to me - is it rubber composite or something else?
Lastly, I could definitely see the sole colours you guys are talking about, when the shoe was on the rack in front of me, but when I am looking down on it as if I was wearing it, I don't really see anything besides the black toe and white trim round the front, so it might not be quite as funny as when we see the side on pics here too.
* Yeah that last line, from someone who sprays his sale shoes black on top and keeps the plain white trim nice and clean... Who am I kidding????
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Today I got out and went to a few other shops and got to see the new Era and Old Skool you guys had posted above, but didn't have time to try them on or anything else.
They sure are quite stiff in the body, compared to the basic vulc options, which one would expect, so I think they would hold up better, but might also take a little more time to break in or get used to.
I would definitely have to change out the insole to something that would work better for me, but it is easy enough too, so I wonder if some of those people who would run thinner or softer insoles would agree with those shoes, or they might not be so painful underfoot.
Maybe the only thing I thought was funny was the change of materials on the side, but I guess I am pretty simple in that regard - just suede when or where I can or canvas if they must, but that other mixed material is a bit funny to me - is it rubber composite or something else?
Lastly, I could definitely see the sole colours you guys are talking about, when the shoe was on the rack in front of me, but when I am looking down on it as if I was wearing it, I don't really see anything besides the black toe and white trim round the front, so it might not be quite as funny as when we see the side on pics here too.
* Yeah that last line, from someone who sprays his sale shoes black on top and keeps the plain white trim nice and clean... Who am I kidding????[close]
First thing I do when I buy any vans skate shoe is replace the popcush, it makes your heel sit way too high and unstable with it being so cushy. Not to mention you get a way worse heel lock.
First thing I do when I buy any vans skate shoe is replace the popcush, it makes your heel sit way too high and unstable with it being so cushy. Not to mention you get a way worse heel lock.
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Today I got out and went to a few other shops and got to see the new Era and Old Skool you guys had posted above, but didn't have time to try them on or anything else.
They sure are quite stiff in the body, compared to the basic vulc options, which one would expect, so I think they would hold up better, but might also take a little more time to break in or get used to.
I would definitely have to change out the insole to something that would work better for me, but it is easy enough too, so I wonder if some of those people who would run thinner or softer insoles would agree with those shoes, or they might not be so painful underfoot.
Maybe the only thing I thought was funny was the change of materials on the side, but I guess I am pretty simple in that regard - just suede when or where I can or canvas if they must, but that other mixed material is a bit funny to me - is it rubber composite or something else?
Lastly, I could definitely see the sole colours you guys are talking about, when the shoe was on the rack in front of me, but when I am looking down on it as if I was wearing it, I don't really see anything besides the black toe and white trim round the front, so it might not be quite as funny as when we see the side on pics here too.
* Yeah that last line, from someone who sprays his sale shoes black on top and keeps the plain white trim nice and clean... Who am I kidding????[close]
First thing I do when I buy any vans skate shoe is replace the popcush, it makes your heel sit way too high and unstable with it being so cushy. Not to mention you get a way worse heel lock.[close]
What do you replace the popcush sole with
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Today I got out and went to a few other shops and got to see the new Era and Old Skool you guys had posted above, but didn't have time to try them on or anything else.
They sure are quite stiff in the body, compared to the basic vulc options, which one would expect, so I think they would hold up better, but might also take a little more time to break in or get used to.
I would definitely have to change out the insole to something that would work better for me, but it is easy enough too, so I wonder if some of those people who would run thinner or softer insoles would agree with those shoes, or they might not be so painful underfoot.
Maybe the only thing I thought was funny was the change of materials on the side, but I guess I am pretty simple in that regard - just suede when or where I can or canvas if they must, but that other mixed material is a bit funny to me - is it rubber composite or something else?
Lastly, I could definitely see the sole colours you guys are talking about, when the shoe was on the rack in front of me, but when I am looking down on it as if I was wearing it, I don't really see anything besides the black toe and white trim round the front, so it might not be quite as funny as when we see the side on pics here too.
* Yeah that last line, from someone who sprays his sale shoes black on top and keeps the plain white trim nice and clean... Who am I kidding????[close]
First thing I do when I buy any vans skate shoe is replace the popcush, it makes your heel sit way too high and unstable with it being so cushy. Not to mention you get a way worse heel lock.[close]
What do you replace the popcush sole with[close]
Usually something thats thinner like some fp gamechangers, that way my foot sits deeper in the shoe and feels more secure/supported.
Expand QuoteAlright a quick Photoshop job makes them seem a million times better if you spray paint the brown and green parts of the sole and get rid of that heel loop.
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I pulled the trigger and kept those Old Skool Wafflecups I just got as they feel comfy and I want to know how I can skate in them. I love Old Skools but they're not protective enough for my old feet, we'll see how these feel.
I tried to spray paint the sole but the texture on the stupid brown and green parts made that hard so I colored it with an edding 8050 tyre marker and the result is pretty decent in my book. I got rid of the heel loop too, of course. I'm going to wear those to work for a minute, I'll start skating in them when my Skate Half Cabs will be done.
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Today someone GAVE me an virtually brand new pair of waffle cup Half-Cabs. I thought, why not? I immediately removed all the tags with his name on it (fuck Cab). But the tongue. Holy hell, the tongue. It's so absurdly puffy and stupid. I want to try cutting the seam open and removing some of the padding, so it's normal sized...but figured before I did this, I'd ask if anyone else has done this / has a good technique.
Expand QuoteToday someone GAVE me an virtually brand new pair of waffle cup Half-Cabs. I thought, why not? I immediately removed all the tags with his name on it (fuck Cab). But the tongue. Holy hell, the tongue. It's so absurdly puffy and stupid. I want to try cutting the seam open and removing some of the padding, so it's normal sized...but figured before I did this, I'd ask if anyone else has done this / has a good technique.[close]
I’m probably wrong, but, I seem to recall @Mbrimson88 posting something about slimming down the tongue.
Does anyone know how the currens compare to the crocketts? Feel, fit, etc. Thanks!
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteToday someone GAVE me an virtually brand new pair of waffle cup Half-Cabs. I thought, why not? I immediately removed all the tags with his name on it (fuck Cab). But the tongue. Holy hell, the tongue. It's so absurdly puffy and stupid. I want to try cutting the seam open and removing some of the padding, so it's normal sized...but figured before I did this, I'd ask if anyone else has done this / has a good technique.[close]
I’m probably wrong, but, I seem to recall @Mbrimson88 posting something about slimming down the tongue.[close]
Yeah I looked up some info when someone else asked the same question in maybe the "Questions" thread for other shoes, which came out with two options, either slice down the back and try to extract the foam piece and replace with a thinner one, or unpick the side or sides and see if it can come out, or even the top. Sewing back together was optional.
From pulling out / cutting out a lot of old Half Cab tongues to re use in any shoes that have no padding (Old Skool, Sk8 low and others), the old ones are sewn in pretty well, but it is still just a piece of foam which can be removed easily enough.
The thickness does flatten down quite a lot too once you have them on your feet for a few sessions / days, or at least it does for me in any versions I have had in the past, regular, pro, Skate, etc. I haven't seen the new waffle cup versions though.
What is the actual difference between wafflecup and regular Skate line since there is no midsole?
Expand QuoteDoes anyone know how the currens compare to the crocketts? Feel, fit, etc. Thanks![close]
They feel different, one being wafflecup and the other vulc. The Crockett low and high are both more supportive and have a more locked in feel (on my feet). The Curren's are super floppy after a couple sessions and I had to crank them down to stay on my feet whilst my toes were getting smushed from the narrowness of the toe of the shoe. The Curren's are grippier.
I miss Crockett Lows and Skate SK8-Lows.I’ve got some sz 11 BLK/WHT Sk8-lo PROs NIB if interested
is the Zahba done now? :( I guess they have been out for a few years now but i just got a pair and i really like themOne of the best shoes ive skated
https://youtu.be/JCUmy9MLSeU?si=ASr6hCnwqwruWUUT
surprised there's no extra padding under the foot w the wafflecup
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI noticed vans makes wide fits in the classic old skool, slips, sk8 his and authentics. anyone ever try them? my feet aren't particularly wide but I thought maybe stacking a supportive insole in there would be feasible since there'd be more room? I'm not a fan of the insoles that come in the skate line, way too tall in the heel.[close]
The problem with Vans wide shoes (and I have somewhat wide flat feet) is that the heel is also wide. I find the skate hi sole to be wider than almost all other Vans skate shoes. If you get a pair of skate hi or skate mid you won’t need a wide. you can put a thick insole in and still have plenty of room. The key is to get a pair that comes with their skate insole because it is easily removable. You will have plenty space to add an insole to your liking. Total comfort with great flex and board feel.[close]
that's funny you mentioned the sk8 hi's because I was looking at those specifically. I want a high top and blazer hi's just felt too much like boots when I tried skating them last summer. and I don't dig any of the other high tops on the market right now. I would go for the skate line and just take out the insoles, but the last feels slimmer compared to the classics. just sucks that the stock glued-in insole is garbage. I'll try a thin one on top of that in some classic sk8 hi's and see how it goes. thanks man.[close]
They didn’t used to do that on the skate version of the skate hi. Maybe they changed the sole type over the last 5 years since I bought the skate highs.[close]
I can't say for all of them, but they have definitely reduced the waffle sole in size over recent years, some maybe more than others, as some of the special range were so very narrow at the point of the rubber sole, compared to the rest of the shoe, so much so that some people were saying they had way more chance of ankle roll because of it and had to put in a thinner insole to counteract the height.
This pic is a good example, as most of the older shoes I have the white trim is way more straight up and down |___| when compared to the new ones which is more like this \___/ but I don't know to what extent they have implemented that on any newer shoes.
https://www.vans.com.au/premium-old-skool-36-vn00cqdba2-blk.html
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I think you are onto something with the angle of the sidewall showing narrowness of the sole.
Have you ever skated ‘made for the makers’? They are like an improved version of the lifestyle line. You don’t get duracap but the insole looks pretty good.
They look wider than the skate line and maybe constructed better.
https://www.vans.com/en-us/p/shoes/icons/old-skool-5205/old-skool-mftm-series---iii-VN000MXPB9M
Box opening from Blue Tile Lounge
https://m.youtube.com/watch?si=5chg0QnjHsWzouLI&v=ryEEHGcZON0&feature=youtu.be
the updated eras fit crazy tight. i got my usual size i got in them for years, and i'm hoping they just take a couple days of pain to break in.
Expand Quotethe updated eras fit crazy tight. i got my usual size i got in them for years, and i'm hoping they just take a couple days of pain to break in.[close]
I definitely find them tighter as well. They skate great though, but I prefer the standard vulcs for everything else because they have more room.
Expand QuoteExpand Quotethe updated eras fit crazy tight. i got my usual size i got in them for years, and i'm hoping they just take a couple days of pain to break in.[close]
I definitely find them tighter as well. They skate great though, but I prefer the standard vulcs for everything else because they have more room.[close]
I didn’t find them tight? True to size and they fit fine and if anything they loosen up a bit after wearing them, but everyone’s foot is different, maybe try a half size up?
Expand Quotethe updated eras fit crazy tight. i got my usual size i got in them for years, and i'm hoping they just take a couple days of pain to break in.[close]
I definitely find them tighter as well. They skate great though, but I prefer the standard vulcs for everything else because they have more room.
the updated eras fit crazy tight. i got my usual size i got in them for years, and i'm hoping they just take a couple days of pain to break in.
Expand Quotethe updated eras fit crazy tight. i got my usual size i got in them for years, and i'm hoping they just take a couple days of pain to break in.[close]
Please update if they do get less painful, I tried them on in store and the heel counter was immediately stabbing me due to the lack of padding so I left them.
Like I said try going up half a size, I’ve had four pairs already, never felt any pain and fits just right for meExpand QuoteExpand Quotethe updated eras fit crazy tight. i got my usual size i got in them for years, and i'm hoping they just take a couple days of pain to break in.[close]
Please update if they do get less painful, I tried them on in store and the heel counter was immediately stabbing me due to the lack of padding so I left them.[close]
once my blisters heal i'm gonna give em another shot of walking around in to break em in. i do have wide feet and did go through a short break in period in the older version as well, but no blisters/moderately severe pain occurred.
the updated eras fit crazy tight. i got my usual size i got in them for years, and i'm hoping they just take a couple days of pain to break in.
Vans skate era's 2026 version are way more comfortable than any prior version imo
Just the fabric liner instead of the faux leather makes such a difference
Went tts and they are pretty good to me
Vans have improved in the last 2-3 years im kinda hooked at the moment
Still the best consistent grip
Been wearing Vans for years big Halfcab guy. Was excited to see the Era come back, the Vulc really didn’t work for my old feet.So i tried the wafflcup out of curiosity and they really really work for me. Skate good right out of the box, fit is on point. Just laced up my second pair
A shop in Taiwan got these, so shops in other countries will probably get them within the next month.
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