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Title: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on November 09, 2024, 09:38:23 PM
During the next four years there are going to be a lot of changes. It will be next to impossible to track/remember of all of them on our own. I'm creating this thread so we can log what changed and use this as a resource. I imagine most of these changes will be for the worse, but there will be a few things that might change for the better.

And just to log a starting point, as of today, Nov 9th:

Unemployment: 4.1%. (https://www.bls.gov/charts/employment-situation/civilian-unemployment-rate.htm)
Percent of Americans living in poverty: 11.1% (https://www.census.gov/library/publications/2024/demo/p60-283.html)
Dow Jones Industrial Average:43,988 (https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/%5EDJI/)
Avg US Gas Price: $3.09  (https://gasprices.aaa.com/)
Inflation Rate: 2.44%. (https://ycharts.com/indicators/us_inflation_rate)
National Debt: $35,984,888,500  (https://www.usdebtclock.org/)
Number of Incarcerated people in America: 1.9 million  (https://www.prisonpolicy.org/reports/pie2024.html)
Median Household income (2023): $80,610 (https://www.moneygeek.com/career/median-income-by-age/)
Median Home Price: $420,000  (https://www.fool.com/money/research/average-house-price-state/.)
Interest Rate: 4.5% to 4.75%.  (https://www.usbank.com/investing/financial-perspectives/market-news/federal-reserve-interest-rate.html)
TSLA stock: 252 (Nov 4th closing price) (https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/TSLA/)
USD Dollar value in Euros: 93 cents
BTC to USD: Roughly 68,770 (start of Nov 5th) (https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin/)
Measles cases: 277 (https://www.cdc.gov/measles/data-research/index.html)
% of Americans that own a home: 65% (https://www.census.gov/housing/hvs/files/currenthvspress.pdf)
Number of homeless: 653,104 (https://usafacts.org/articles/how-many-homeless-people-are-in-the-us-what-does-the-data-miss/#.)

I'll try to add in a few other basic stats over the next few days. I imagine the next four years will be super weird and we'll need to track all the changes... and separate the bluster from reality (so many Build Back Better accomplishments will be credited to Trump and team. Dems invested heavily in red states).
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: fuck_that_guy on November 09, 2024, 11:24:17 PM
fuck that guy
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Colin Robinson on November 10, 2024, 12:40:16 PM
Stupidity continues to skyrocket
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: garbage_wagon on November 10, 2024, 04:36:36 PM
This one looks pretty bad:

https://theintercept.com/2024/11/10/trump-nonprofit-tax-exempt-political-enemies/?utm_medium=email&utm_source=The%20Intercept%20Newsletter
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Lame_Fella on November 11, 2024, 07:21:38 AM
Will Tim Pool be appointed the Minister of Skate under this administration? Everyone required to learn hang ten hard flips and def not AI skate pics?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on November 11, 2024, 08:29:31 AM
Will Tim Pool be appointed the Minister of Skate under this administration? Everyone required to learn hang ten hard flips and def not AI skate pics?

He’s already been put on the Board of directors for SLS
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Wienerboy on November 11, 2024, 11:16:38 AM
I saw someone mention poverty stats but what about Homelessness? From what I've seen, we have been experiencing record-high numbers in the last few years and that is only growing.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on November 11, 2024, 12:37:55 PM
I saw someone mention poverty stats but what about Homelessness? From what I've seen, we have been experiencing record-high numbers in the last few years and that is only growing.

Added this to our basic list of starting point stats. We are at the highest point of homeless-ness since 2007 (i.e. right before the housing crash of 2008 and housing prices came back to reality).

@IUTSM let me know if you want to look up the stats you mentioned above or if you want to do it. And, if anyone else has ideas on starting point stats. Let me know. I have a few more that I'd like to add over the coming weeks.

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on November 11, 2024, 01:30:45 PM
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I saw someone mention poverty stats but what about Homelessness? From what I've seen, we have been experiencing record-high numbers in the last few years and that is only growing.
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Added this to our basic list of starting point stats. We are at the highest point of homeless-ness since 2007 (i.e. right before the housing crash of 2008 and housing prices came back to reality).

@IUTSM let me know if you want to look up the stats you mentioned above or if you want to do it. And, if anyone else has ideas on starting point stats. Let me know. I have a few more that I'd like to add over the coming weeks.

Assuming that since Trump got elected, stocks for for-profit prisons shot thru the roof with the added fact that SCOTUS said it’s okay to make homelessness a crime, I’ll put good money on the chance that a lot of the un-housed will end up in these prison. Thus making homelessness numbers plummet under Trump as if he solved the problem (yes, it does in a way) and his buddies running those for-profit prisons will be raking in state and federal money to incarcerate those folk.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on November 11, 2024, 01:45:31 PM
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I saw someone mention poverty stats but what about Homelessness? From what I've seen, we have been experiencing record-high numbers in the last few years and that is only growing.
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Added this to our basic list of starting point stats. We are at the highest point of homeless-ness since 2007 (i.e. right before the housing crash of 2008 and housing prices came back to reality).

@IUTSM let me know if you want to look up the stats you mentioned above or if you want to do it. And, if anyone else has ideas on starting point stats. Let me know. I have a few more that I'd like to add over the coming weeks.
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Assuming that since Trump got elected, stocks for for-profit prisons shot thru the roof with the added fact that SCOTUS said it’s okay to make homelessness a crime, I’ll put good money on the chance that a lot of the un-housed will end up in these prison. Thus making homelessness numbers plummet under Trump as if he solved the problem (yes, it does in a way) and his buddies running those for-profit prisons will be raking in state and federal money to incarcerate those folk.

This is probably a good bet. People in prison aren't counted as unemployed, which has historically pushed down unemployment rates for those groups that are over incarcerated.  My assumption was private prisons sky rocketed partially because conservatives refuse to believe these aren't the best or most cost effective way to incarcerate people AND because the private prisons have hard-ons for all the deportation detainees that they can profit off. If Trump wants to deport a million a year, that'll be a lot government money shoveled into the pockets of geo-group.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: roba on November 12, 2024, 04:56:22 AM
what keeps me worried is what's going to happen in ukraine. jr already posted some instagram stories on how ukraine isn't going to be getting any more "allowance". hopefully trump is able to make some sort of agreement with putin which will stop the invasion, but i doubt it. if putin wins in ukraine, he's probably not going to stop there and will continue into other post-soviet countries. basically if shit goes wrong there, it could very well escalate into ww3. there's no way of telling, but i fear it could happen.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on November 12, 2024, 05:54:20 AM
what keeps me worried is what's going to happen in ukraine. jr already posted some instagram stories on how ukraine isn't going to be getting any more "allowance". hopefully trump is able to make some sort of agreement with putin which will stop the invasion, but i doubt it. if putin wins in ukraine, he's probably not going to stop there and will continue into other post-soviet countries. basically if shit goes wrong there, it could very well escalate into ww3. there's no way of telling, but i fear it could happen.

Putin won’t stop with Ukraine. He very much wants to recreate his version of the Soviet Union. And having Trump basically hand over Ukraine and exit NATO is just another hurdle jumped in his journey to domination.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on November 12, 2024, 10:59:25 AM
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what keeps me worried is what's going to happen in ukraine. jr already posted some instagram stories on how ukraine isn't going to be getting any more "allowance". hopefully trump is able to make some sort of agreement with putin which will stop the invasion, but i doubt it. if putin wins in ukraine, he's probably not going to stop there and will continue into other post-soviet countries. basically if shit goes wrong there, it could very well escalate into ww3. there's no way of telling, but i fear it could happen.
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Putin won’t stop with Ukraine. He very much wants to recreate his version of the Soviet Union. And having Trump basically hand over Ukraine and exit NATO is just another hurdle jumped in his journey to domination.

The EU is going to have to contribute more and Zelensky is going to sell off Ukrainian resources to American companies.

I saw RFK's dumb ass post about his hopes for the FDA, which needs improvement but this man is going to make it worse in most cases.  I was initially excited that he mentioned stem cells, but then realized he isn't talking about real stem cell research but it is more likely that he wants to promote scam stem cell therapies that they do in Thailand that claim to cure everything.

I just hope the RFK's FDA will get all the chlorine out of our salt  ;D
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: garbage_wagon on November 12, 2024, 11:35:35 AM
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what keeps me worried is what's going to happen in ukraine. jr already posted some instagram stories on how ukraine isn't going to be getting any more "allowance". hopefully trump is able to make some sort of agreement with putin which will stop the invasion, but i doubt it. if putin wins in ukraine, he's probably not going to stop there and will continue into other post-soviet countries. basically if shit goes wrong there, it could very well escalate into ww3. there's no way of telling, but i fear it could happen.
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Putin won’t stop with Ukraine. He very much wants to recreate his version of the Soviet Union. And having Trump basically hand over Ukraine and exit NATO is just another hurdle jumped in his journey to domination.
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The EU is going to have to contribute more and Zelensky is going to sell off Ukrainian resources to American companies.

I saw RFK's dumb ass post about his hopes for the FDA, which needs improvement but this man is going to make it worse in most cases.  I was initially excited that he mentioned stem cells, but then realized he isn't talking about real stem cell research but it is more likely that he wants to promote scam stem cell therapies that they do in Thailand that claim to cure everything.

I just hope the RFK's FDA will get all the chlorine out of our salt  ;D

https://geopoliticaleconomy.com/2022/09/09/zelensky-selling-ukraine-wall-street/


Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: augustmoon on November 12, 2024, 01:39:28 PM
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I saw someone mention poverty stats but what about Homelessness? From what I've seen, we have been experiencing record-high numbers in the last few years and that is only growing.
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Added this to our basic list of starting point stats. We are at the highest point of homeless-ness since 2007 (i.e. right before the housing crash of 2008 and housing prices came back to reality).

@IUTSM let me know if you want to look up the stats you mentioned above or if you want to do it. And, if anyone else has ideas on starting point stats. Let me know. I have a few more that I'd like to add over the coming weeks.
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Assuming that since Trump got elected, stocks for for-profit prisons shot thru the roof with the added fact that SCOTUS said it’s okay to make homelessness a crime, I’ll put good money on the chance that a lot of the un-housed will end up in these prison. Thus making homelessness numbers plummet under Trump as if he solved the problem (yes, it does in a way) and his buddies running those for-profit prisons will be raking in state and federal money to incarcerate those folk.
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This is probably a good bet. People in prison aren't counted as unemployed, which has historically pushed down unemployment rates for those groups that are over incarcerated.  My assumption was private prisons sky rocketed partially because conservatives refuse to believe these aren't the best or most cost effective way to incarcerate people AND because the private prisons have hard-ons for all the deportation detainees that they can profit off. If Trump wants to deport a million a year, that'll be a lot government money shoveled into the pockets of geo-group.


They will find reasons to incarcerate people so they can legally have slave labor for for-profit endeavors.  It won’t stop wit homelessness, they will find other arbitrary things to make jailable, like debt or childlessness. 
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Colin Robinson on November 12, 2024, 02:56:05 PM
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I saw someone mention poverty stats but what about Homelessness? From what I've seen, we have been experiencing record-high numbers in the last few years and that is only growing.
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Added this to our basic list of starting point stats. We are at the highest point of homeless-ness since 2007 (i.e. right before the housing crash of 2008 and housing prices came back to reality).

@IUTSM let me know if you want to look up the stats you mentioned above or if you want to do it. And, if anyone else has ideas on starting point stats. Let me know. I have a few more that I'd like to add over the coming weeks.
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Assuming that since Trump got elected, stocks for for-profit prisons shot thru the roof with the added fact that SCOTUS said it’s okay to make homelessness a crime, I’ll put good money on the chance that a lot of the un-housed will end up in these prison. Thus making homelessness numbers plummet under Trump as if he solved the problem (yes, it does in a way) and his buddies running those for-profit prisons will be raking in state and federal money to incarcerate those folk.
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This is probably a good bet. People in prison aren't counted as unemployed, which has historically pushed down unemployment rates for those groups that are over incarcerated.  My assumption was private prisons sky rocketed partially because conservatives refuse to believe these aren't the best or most cost effective way to incarcerate people AND because the private prisons have hard-ons for all the deportation detainees that they can profit off. If Trump wants to deport a million a year, that'll be a lot government money shoveled into the pockets of geo-group.
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They will find reasons to incarcerate people so they can legally have slave labor for for-profit endeavors.  It won’t stop wit homelessness, they will find other arbitrary things to make jailable, like debt or childlessness.

And this is why you buy guns.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on November 12, 2024, 03:19:18 PM
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what keeps me worried is what's going to happen in ukraine. jr already posted some instagram stories on how ukraine isn't going to be getting any more "allowance". hopefully trump is able to make some sort of agreement with putin which will stop the invasion, but i doubt it. if putin wins in ukraine, he's probably not going to stop there and will continue into other post-soviet countries. basically if shit goes wrong there, it could very well escalate into ww3. there's no way of telling, but i fear it could happen.
[close]

Putin won’t stop with Ukraine. He very much wants to recreate his version of the Soviet Union. And having Trump basically hand over Ukraine and exit NATO is just another hurdle jumped in his journey to domination.
[close]

The EU is going to have to contribute more and Zelensky is going to sell off Ukrainian resources to American companies.

I saw RFK's dumb ass post about his hopes for the FDA, which needs improvement but this man is going to make it worse in most cases.  I was initially excited that he mentioned stem cells, but then realized he isn't talking about real stem cell research but it is more likely that he wants to promote scam stem cell therapies that they do in Thailand that claim to cure everything.

I just hope the RFK's FDA will get all the chlorine out of our salt  ;D
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https://geopoliticaleconomy.com/2022/09/09/zelensky-selling-ukraine-wall-street/

@garbage_wagon good catch.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Shock_Doctrine
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on November 12, 2024, 03:21:17 PM
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I saw someone mention poverty stats but what about Homelessness? From what I've seen, we have been experiencing record-high numbers in the last few years and that is only growing.
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Added this to our basic list of starting point stats. We are at the highest point of homeless-ness since 2007 (i.e. right before the housing crash of 2008 and housing prices came back to reality).

@IUTSM let me know if you want to look up the stats you mentioned above or if you want to do it. And, if anyone else has ideas on starting point stats. Let me know. I have a few more that I'd like to add over the coming weeks.
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Assuming that since Trump got elected, stocks for for-profit prisons shot thru the roof with the added fact that SCOTUS said it’s okay to make homelessness a crime, I’ll put good money on the chance that a lot of the un-housed will end up in these prison. Thus making homelessness numbers plummet under Trump as if he solved the problem (yes, it does in a way) and his buddies running those for-profit prisons will be raking in state and federal money to incarcerate those folk.
[close]

This is probably a good bet. People in prison aren't counted as unemployed, which has historically pushed down unemployment rates for those groups that are over incarcerated.  My assumption was private prisons sky rocketed partially because conservatives refuse to believe these aren't the best or most cost effective way to incarcerate people AND because the private prisons have hard-ons for all the deportation detainees that they can profit off. If Trump wants to deport a million a year, that'll be a lot government money shoveled into the pockets of geo-group.
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They will find reasons to incarcerate people so they can legally have slave labor for for-profit endeavors.  It won’t stop wit homelessness, they will find other arbitrary things to make jailable, like debt or childlessness.

Why do you think Florida killed the legal weed bill. It passed with majority but failed with less than 60% They knew it would work that way, now it's easier to bust people for possession.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Sick_McCrank_ on November 12, 2024, 03:47:24 PM
All that’s gonna matter is how much more money the top 1% will have at the end. The rest? None of his business.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: pugmaster on November 12, 2024, 07:52:04 PM
I wonder what kind of pillows the prisons will order in large volumes.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Sincerity on November 12, 2024, 09:18:28 PM
The number of billionaires in the US as of September, 2024: 801, worth 6.22 trillion.

Source: https://inequality.org/great-divide/billionaire-wealth-keeps-growing/#:~:text=801%20U.S.%20billionaires%20hold%20a,Berkshire%20Hathaway%20with%20$141%20billion. (https://inequality.org/great-divide/billionaire-wealth-keeps-growing/#:~:text=801%20U.S.%20billionaires%20hold%20a,Berkshire%20Hathaway%20with%20$141%20billion.)

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: S. on November 13, 2024, 12:02:09 AM
Inequality: GINI Index 41.3

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/SIPOVGINIUSA

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: SUPREMENECKPROTECTOR on November 13, 2024, 12:31:48 AM
https://www.thenationalliteracyinstitute.com/literacy-statistics

May be of interest?!
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: ok boomer on November 13, 2024, 04:44:01 AM
Deez nuts 100%
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: augustmoon on November 13, 2024, 04:47:38 AM
The billionaire class is enacting their own New World Order and they’re doing it by force.  They’re consolidating power ahead of imminent climate collapse.  Expect someone to launch a nuke.  Expect us to either go to war with Russia/China or ally with them to subjugate the global south.  Expect a serious pandemic this time around with 20% or more mortality rate.  Expect compelled euthanasia for marginalized groups as resources run scarce. 


This was inevitable and not much could have been done to stop it.  We’re just along for the ride now 

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: augustmoon on November 13, 2024, 07:25:53 AM
Gonna have to check that out


I think I posted my climate change consapiracy here a few years back.  And while I don’t believe in conspiracy theories, just about everything I speculated has come to pass.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Scarecrow Radio on November 13, 2024, 07:46:37 AM
I wonder what kind of pillows the prisons will order in large volumes.
Why, MYPILLOW.COM of course!
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on November 13, 2024, 10:02:28 AM
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I wonder what kind of pillows the prisons will order in large volumes.
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Why, MYPILLOW.COM of course!

Don't forget, for the sake of efficiency, every government vehicle will be replaced with a Cybertruck.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on November 13, 2024, 10:49:50 AM
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I wonder what kind of pillows the prisons will order in large volumes.
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Why, MYPILLOW.COM of course!
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Don't forget, for the sake of efficiency, every government vehicle will be replaced with a Cybertruck.
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But weirdly at the same time they’re trying to harm EV legislation and production

Yes. But I feel like with Elon in his cabinet position, EV legislation and production will affect every other EV manufacturer out there but Tesla.

Kind of efficient when it comes to competition, right?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Scarecrow Radio on November 13, 2024, 11:23:10 AM
Republicans have retained control of the House. This my friends is going to be an absolute shit-show for four very long years
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on November 13, 2024, 11:54:44 AM
Republicans have retained control of the House. This my friends is going to be an absolute shit-show for four very long years

Not four years.

Look at Trump's tax plan. Went from 2018-2025.

He's even looking at another 2-3 SCOTUS judges.

Brace yourself for a fucked up 20 years. Or more.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: m477 on November 13, 2024, 11:56:19 AM
Prop 36 being passed in CA is also a factor for prison stock as it reforms theft laws under $950.

https://voterguide.sos.ca.gov/propositions/36/
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mr. Pickles on November 13, 2024, 06:11:33 PM
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Republicans have retained control of the House. This my friends is going to be an absolute shit-show for four very long years
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Midterms can wrest house back

Nah, free and fair elections are a thing of the past. Think Russia.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on November 13, 2024, 08:32:35 PM
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I wonder what kind of pillows the prisons will order in large volumes.
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Why, MYPILLOW.COM of course!
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Don't forget, for the sake of efficiency, every government vehicle will be replaced with a Cybertruck.
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But weirdly at the same time they’re trying to harm EV legislation and production
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Yes. But I feel like with Elon in his cabinet position, EV legislation and production will affect every other EV manufacturer out there but Tesla.

Kind of efficient when it comes to competition, right?

Musk already cried to get Biden to block BYD from being able to import to the US.

I'd bet his big changes are ones that get him out of the federal lawsuits currently against SpaceX and his other companies. From SpaceX's pollution near the border to Musk's lawsuits about treating workers like shit, he's going to find a way to make them disappear.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: augustmoon on November 14, 2024, 04:00:33 AM
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Gonna have to check that out


I think I posted my climate change consapiracy here a few years back.  And while I don’t believe in conspiracy theories, just about everything I speculated has come to pass.
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post it again, i'm curious.  i'm usually not someone who frets about the Bilderberg Group or any high powered moneyed cabal...but something might have flipped in me when I was doomscrolling the day after the election

i really dont believe in conspiracy theories, but...

sure.  it basically boils down to climate change denial on the right being a ruse.  they know, and have known, how fucked we are going to be for a long time now.  the world's major nations have been consolidating power for years now in preparation for an impending global upheaval.  Russia will try to take Europe and China/North korea will take Asia, Israel or Iran will take the middle east, etc. The "global north" will have to subjugate the "global south" to maintain a semblance of our quality of life while we force them to live in poverty, force them to abide by industrial emission standards, forced labor, etc. 

The US is stuck in the middle.  Dems have been sticking their finger in the dam so to speak...trying to delay the inevitable.  propping up Ukraine to slow Russia's expansion into Europe, funding Israel to put a bandaid on the middle east.  The right's position is to ally with Russia/China to subjugate the rest of the world.  The only way to get this done is through authoritarian fascism.  Trump has been designated as the face of this, but isn't the real driving force behind it all.  This has all been decreed by the billionaire class. Trump is a convenient demagogue that can get all of this done. In the end We'll all be sacrificed before they give up an inch of their current way of life. 

Covid plays into this (trial run for authoritarian rule).  abortion bans/trad family values play into this(new stock of soldiers to die in global war in 20 years).  Our leaders are basically following the Nazi playbook word for word, and I feel like a we're being set up for a domestic genocidal purge of undesirables that will hinder this progress.  Im predicting that the current admin will call a constitutional convention to enshrine fascism in our laws forever. 

theres more to it, but thats the basic just of it.  the climate change thing can be interchanged with basic late stage capitalism, but i think the results would be the same.  I think someone will launch a nuke in the near future and all the masks will come off

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: augustmoon on November 14, 2024, 09:54:16 AM
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I think I posted my climate change consapiracy here a few years back.  And while I don’t believe in conspiracy theories, just about everything I speculated has come to pass.
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post it again, i'm curious.  i'm usually not someone who frets about the Bilderberg Group or any high powered moneyed cabal...but something might have flipped in me when I was doomscrolling the day after the election
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i really dont believe in conspiracy theories, but...

sure.  it basically boils down to climate change denial on the right being a ruse.  they know, and have known, how fucked we are going to be for a long time now.  the world's major nations have been consolidating power for years now in preparation for an impending global upheaval.  Russia will try to take Europe and China/North korea will take Asia, Israel or Iran will take the middle east, etc. The "global north" will have to subjugate the "global south" to maintain a semblance of our quality of life while we force them to live in poverty, force them to abide by industrial emission standards, forced labor, etc. 

The US is stuck in the middle.  Dems have been sticking their finger in the dam so to speak...trying to delay the inevitable.  propping up Ukraine to slow Russia's expansion into Europe, funding Israel to put a bandaid on the middle east.  The right's position is to ally with Russia/China to subjugate the rest of the world.  The only way to get this done is through authoritarian fascism.  Trump has been designated as the face of this, but isn't the real driving force behind it all.  This has all been decreed by the billionaire class. Trump is a convenient demagogue that can get all of this done. In the end We'll all be sacrificed before they give up an inch of their current way of life. 

Covid plays into this (trial run for authoritarian rule).  abortion bans/trad family values play into this(new stock of soldiers to die in global war in 20 years).  Our leaders are basically following the Nazi playbook word for word, and I feel like a we're being set up for a domestic genocidal purge of undesirables that will hinder this progress.  Im predicting that the current admin will call a constitutional convention to enshrine fascism in our laws forever. 

theres more to it, but thats the basic just of it.  the climate change thing can be interchanged with basic late stage capitalism, but i think the results would be the same.  I think someone will launch a nuke in the near future and all the masks will come off
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So you are proposing that covid was a “plandemic”?


Lmao, no.  Pandemics are inevitable.  But they learned a lot from the response, and this will inform how they implement authoritarian rule.  I think some type of martial law/suspension of the constitution will take place
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: garbage_wagon on November 14, 2024, 10:24:56 AM
How about that Mike Huckabee appointment? Palestinians and Lebanon are fucked.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Scarecrow Radio on November 14, 2024, 10:44:41 AM
Mike Huckabee is on tape saying 'There's no such thing as a Palestinian' and telling Israelis that Gaza is their land
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Post by: m477 on November 14, 2024, 10:46:59 AM
Interesting info on Gaetz:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=G-KX3qcbRBk
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Post by: m477 on November 14, 2024, 11:02:57 AM
And Rubio:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jGrR0YkVjuo
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Post by: ok boomer on November 14, 2024, 02:53:42 PM
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Gonna have to check that out


I think I posted my climate change consapiracy here a few years back.  And while I don’t believe in conspiracy theories, just about everything I speculated has come to pass.
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post it again, i'm curious.  i'm usually not someone who frets about the Bilderberg Group or any high powered moneyed cabal...but something might have flipped in me when I was doomscrolling the day after the election
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i really dont believe in conspiracy theories, but...

sure.  it basically boils down to climate change denial on the right being a ruse.  they know, and have known, how fucked we are going to be for a long time now.  the world's major nations have been consolidating power for years now in preparation for an impending global upheaval.  Russia will try to take Europe and China/North korea will take Asia, Israel or Iran will take the middle east, etc. The "global north" will have to subjugate the "global south" to maintain a semblance of our quality of life while we force them to live in poverty, force them to abide by industrial emission standards, forced labor, etc. 

The US is stuck in the middle.  Dems have been sticking their finger in the dam so to speak...trying to delay the inevitable.  propping up Ukraine to slow Russia's expansion into Europe, funding Israel to put a bandaid on the middle east.  The right's position is to ally with Russia/China to subjugate the rest of the world.  The only way to get this done is through authoritarian fascism.  Trump has been designated as the face of this, but isn't the real driving force behind it all.  This has all been decreed by the billionaire class. Trump is a convenient demagogue that can get all of this done. In the end We'll all be sacrificed before they give up an inch of their current way of life. 

Covid plays into this (trial run for authoritarian rule).  abortion bans/trad family values play into this(new stock of soldiers to die in global war in 20 years).  Our leaders are basically following the Nazi playbook word for word, and I feel like a we're being set up for a domestic genocidal purge of undesirables that will hinder this progress.  Im predicting that the current admin will call a constitutional convention to enshrine fascism in our laws forever. 

theres more to it, but thats the basic just of it.  the climate change thing can be interchanged with basic late stage capitalism, but i think the results would be the same.  I think someone will launch a nuke in the near future and all the masks will come off
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So you are proposing that covid was a “plandemic”?
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Lmao, no.  Pandemics are inevitable.  But they learned a lot from the response, and this will inform how they implement authoritarian rule.  I think some type of martial law/suspension of the constitution will take place

Agree with this last bit fo sho. Definitely learned a lot from the response. Test run for later
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on November 14, 2024, 03:07:16 PM
RFK Jr. officially in charge of the HHS.

Watch him tell Trump to repeal funding from schools with vaccine mandates. Then watch anti-vaxxers wonder why their kids are getting measles, whooping cough, and polio when they didn't get it as a kid.
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Post by: TastyBurrito on November 14, 2024, 03:36:22 PM
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RFK Jr. officially in charge of the HHS.

Watch him tell Trump to repeal funding from schools with vaccine mandates. Then watch anti-vaxxers wonder why their kids are getting measles, whooping cough, and polio when they didn't get it as a kid.
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He is not.   He has been nominated.  You may say it’s a technicality, but i think it’s good to be accurate

I stand corrected. I assumed the HHS was low enough where it didn't warrant review unlike AG or Sec of State and such.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Unkle Fleak on November 14, 2024, 07:36:16 PM
They’re gonna spend all their time chasing the woke mind virus. Nothing will be accomplished without suffering
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Franksnose76 on November 15, 2024, 09:06:33 AM
What's interesting about this debacle of Trump's second term is in both instances 2016 & 2024  he was up against a woman candidate. Not that I have any issues with the fairer gender, just seems to me the residents of this country for sure are showing their sexist views through voting for this chump. We're in for an absolute shit show from cabinet members fired/leaving etc... If it we're up to Tdumpf he'd have another night of the long knives upon migrants and others he deemed unworthy. What makes me and my wife upset is the fact that everyone is going to feel the squeeze of his pudgy little hands.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Franksnose76 on November 15, 2024, 09:15:46 AM
Trump has been a useful Russian idiot, the evidence is there, which makes sense.  Seems to me and I'm not the only one who sees this, he's been compromised since 1977.
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Post by: Scarecrow Radio on November 15, 2024, 10:41:20 AM
^I've been saying this for years
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Post by: Franksnose76 on November 15, 2024, 11:59:52 AM
^I've been saying this for years
He's a stooge and eventually a patsy for their agenda. That true red white and blue attitude has been sold to the Kremlin for peanuts.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on November 15, 2024, 01:26:00 PM
LOL. Musk announced the only way to apply for DOGE jobs is thru a paid for Xitter account.

Talk about grift.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: h00man on November 15, 2024, 05:11:12 PM
Well.... people made their choice and sat out this election or protest voted. If you did, please do not complain.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on November 15, 2024, 08:59:31 PM
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/muslims-who-voted-trump-upset-by-his-pro-israel-cabinet-picks-2024-11-15/

I guess believing a serial liar wasn’t the best way to go about it. Just wait till the Muslim ban and deportations begin. Shits going to get much worse.

For those who compared tRump to Hitler and said they’re taking their playbook word for word, you’re close, but not right. The nazis built their infrastructure and tried to better the lives of the(aryan) population. tRump isn’t going to do that since he only cares about himself and what he gets.
The MAGA movement is doomed to canibalize itself. There’s no way for it to sustain itself long term. Unfortunately it’s not going to be anytime soon though.
 Turn off phones or don’t carry one with you. Don’t use apps to communicate or organize, stick with known people and don’t broadcast shit online or over the phone ever.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: JANUS on November 16, 2024, 06:32:26 AM
LOL. Musk announced the only way to apply for DOGE jobs is thru a paid for Xitter account.

Talk about grift.

DOGE. The daft cunt really has no original ideas.
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Post by: TastyBurrito on November 16, 2024, 09:35:11 AM
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LOL. Musk announced the only way to apply for DOGE jobs is thru a paid for Xitter account.

Talk about grift.
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DOGE. The daft cunt really has no original ideas.
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I feel like the asshole for not getting that Dept of Gov Efficiency was DOGE until he spelled it out

He basically shit meme’d the government.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Franksnose76 on November 16, 2024, 10:30:32 AM
Well.... people made their choice and sat out this election or protest voted. If you did, please do not complain.
Seen on Instagram ppl wasting their vote on ridiculous and made up people, this country sucks....
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on November 16, 2024, 12:58:08 PM
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Well.... people made their choice and sat out this election or protest voted. If you did, please do not complain.
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Seen on Instagram ppl wasting their vote on ridiculous and made up people, this country sucks....

Much like 2016 when hella people wrote in Harambe and realized they fucked up when Trump won.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: augustmoon on November 16, 2024, 01:22:42 PM
You’re always going to find examples of that in any election, I dont think those cases are necessarily significant.  Yes some elections are very close, but the ideas behind normalizing fascism are a cancer that wont stop growing until something catastrophic happens. 

This was coming sooner or later.  Capitalism was never going to admit its own failure, it was always destined to lash out violently as it dies.  If it wouldn’t have been Trump this time, it would have been someone else in 4 years, or one of his kids. 

There is a global trend towards authoritarianism, not just here.  Billionaires see the writing on the wall and they’re not giving up what they have, so we’re all going to have to suffer. 

These past few years I’ve been entertaining the idea of a global hive mind sensing impending danger, and contracting in anticipation of it.  The internet is certainly an artificial version of this.  The benevolent intentions of the early days of the internet are over, it’s going to be used as a means of control and propaganda from here on out. 

Pretty apprehensive about what’s to come.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on November 16, 2024, 03:46:49 PM
One party validated how people felt.   Our economy is doing great, but it’s doing great in areas that might not be seen in the price of eggs, etc and the Dems couldn’t figure out to campaign on that. 

Dems are seen as establishment and for a lot of people government isn’t working for them so they’ve turned to an authoritarian because that in theory will make things work

Bernie said something similar in a interview.

I think the framing needed to be "It has been really hard bringing inflation down, it has been hard for many of us, and its hard on young people. A lot of the hard part is done, we need to stay the course and watch good manufacturing jobs open up via Build Back Better, see the benefits of all the new/refurbished infrastructure, and lower interest rates that could only come with our stewardship over the nation."

Acknowledge the hard part was hard, but promise the pay off is here. Would everyone believe it? Who knows, but I think more would believe than citing good economic indicators. "The economy" is not individual wealth or well-being. The 90s had a great economy and generated a ton of shit jobs that don't pay shit.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Unkle Fleak on November 16, 2024, 04:20:34 PM
It would be irresponsible to continue the case on matt the skinner gates note he’s left Congress. So we can count on that rapist getting off. The party of law and order
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Post by: radcunt on November 16, 2024, 05:08:49 PM
It's not even worth discussing anymore.  They'll always take the short trip to bullshit & flood the world with shit and useless arguments & leads to bank on the left doing due diligence to disprove mindless insanity which keeps them fighting and occupied.  The people want an easy answer, even if it's a lie.  It's a race to the bottom and we're nearly there.

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: JANUS on November 16, 2024, 07:14:17 PM
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LOL. Musk announced the only way to apply for DOGE jobs is thru a paid for Xitter account.

Talk about grift.
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DOGE. The daft cunt really has no original ideas.
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I feel like the asshole for not getting that Dept of Gov Efficiency was DOGE until he spelled it out
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He basically shit meme’d the government.

I bet the silly fuckwit will try to rebrand the country as UXA.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: DaleSr on November 19, 2024, 12:58:41 PM
We're all getting robbed and there are tons of dipshits cheering on the robbers
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Post by: h00man on November 19, 2024, 02:59:52 PM
Trump picked Dr Oz to lead centers for Medicare and Medicaid services lol you cant make this shit up
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on November 19, 2024, 03:06:53 PM
Trump picked Dr Oz to lead centers for Medicare and Medicaid services lol you cant make this shit up

LOL. It's like when you ask yourself, "can it get any worse?" It does.

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: DaleSr on November 19, 2024, 03:19:50 PM
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Welcome home, dude. Nice to see you round again

Always good to see you brother ❤️‍🔥
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on November 19, 2024, 03:24:33 PM
Also, I give it 48 hours until he announces Alex Jones as Press Secretary. Letting him turn the official voice of the White House into InfoWars 2.0.

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Dopethrone on November 19, 2024, 03:50:47 PM
What about the US missiles getting launched into Russia. Edging closer to WWiii do we blame that on trump too?
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Post by: ok boomer on November 19, 2024, 04:04:28 PM
I was edging earlier 🍆
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mongo Lloyd on November 19, 2024, 04:12:15 PM
What about the US missiles getting launched into Russia. Edging closer to WWiii do we blame that on trump too?

Trump doesn’t lob bombs, he sells out our country to the enemy instead.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: augustmoon on November 19, 2024, 04:43:06 PM
Trump picked Dr Oz to lead centers for Medicare and Medicaid services lol you cant make this shit up

A lot of people are going to die.  You have to conclude that this is the stated goal.  Really puts Elon’s “population collapse” rhetoric in perspective.  The need the “right” people to breed once they rid the country of undesirables.   Immigrants via deportation.  Disabled/elderly/sick/veterans dead via lack of medical care.  Young people denied an education and funneled into military and/or wage slavery. 

The coup succeeded.  People voted for their own enslavement.  The country is lost and it’s not coming back. 
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: h00man on November 19, 2024, 04:57:01 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObOqq1knVxs

perfect song to sum up this era
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: JANUS on November 19, 2024, 05:31:26 PM
What about the US missiles getting launched into Russia. Edging closer to WWiii do we blame that on trump too?

I really don’t see what allowing one country to retaliate against another while they’re at war has to do with delaying sexual release.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on November 19, 2024, 06:37:56 PM
Of course, Dr. Oz lands himself a position in this administration of grifters. I thought RFK Jr. was the bottom. Nope, there is always one step lower.

https://www.npr.org/sections/shots-health-news/2024/11/19/nx-s1-5196969/dr-oz-trump-cms

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: h00man on November 19, 2024, 06:59:51 PM
What about the US missiles getting launched into Russia. Edging closer to WWiii do we blame that on trump too?

did....did you think we, the US fired those missiles into Russia?
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Post by: garbage_wagon on November 19, 2024, 07:22:16 PM
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What about the US missiles getting launched into Russia. Edging closer to WWiii do we blame that on trump too?
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did....did you think we, the US fired those missiles into Russia?

Biden just approved the use of US supplied long range missiles into Russia. Since the beginning of this conflict Putin has said that this action would make the US culpable and signify US involvement. As if this wasn’t our proxy war since the beginning?

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/11/17/politics/biden-authorizes-ukraine-missiles-russian-targets


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Post by: TheLurper on November 19, 2024, 11:04:26 PM
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did....did you think we, the US fired those missiles into Russia?
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Biden just approved the use of US supplied long range missiles into Russia. Since the beginning of this conflict Putin has said that this action would make the US culpable and signify US involvement. As if this wasn’t our proxy war since the beginning?

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/11/17/politics/biden-authorizes-ukraine-missiles-russian-targets

I suppose the question here is, what solution do you think is best? When Putin invades Ukraine to steal its land the correct answer is to do ____. When Putin brings N Korean troops to help steal land, kill civilians, and rape Ukrainians, the answer is to do ______. When Hamas kills and rapes civilians--accounting for the risk of war w/Iran which can spiral into WWIII--Israel's response should be to do ________. Accounting for the risk of war with a nuclear power, the killing of an Iranian general under Trump was _______. When Putin invaded and stole land from Georgia the West's response to simply place sanctions on the country was _____.

The missiles--to my understanding--can only be used around the Kursk Oblast (province/state) region. Even if the missiles could reach Kazan or Sochi or Moscow, the US (Biden) is not allowing them to be used for these kinds of attacks. And the recent strike was on warehouses holding “artillery ammunition, including North Korean ammunition for their systems; guided aerial bombs; antiaircraft missiles; and ammunition for multiple-launch rocket systems.” I'm not a general and I'm not a president, so I don't know what is best to do in a situation like this. My biased response is that rolling over is not a good idea and if Trump wants to play negotiator, Ukrainian's holding Russian land will make Ukraine's goal of keeping as much of its own territory as possible easier for Trump's team to achieve.


Also, since Kursk has come up. I made a gif of Pasha's insanely gnarly front-side flip at the Kursk skatepark.
(https://i.ibb.co/vLPHdrt/ezgif-3-ed369e0974.gif)
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: JANUS on November 20, 2024, 05:35:18 AM
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What about the US missiles getting launched into Russia. Edging closer to WWiii do we blame that on trump too?
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did....did you think we, the US fired those missiles into Russia?
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Biden just approved the use of US supplied long range missiles into Russia. Since the beginning of this conflict Putin has said that this action would make the US culpable and signify US involvement. As if this wasn’t our proxy war since the beginning?

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/11/17/politics/biden-authorizes-ukraine-missiles-russian-targets

By that logic, Iran and China are culpable and involved as well. People shouldn’t start wars if they don’t want to get ‘sploded.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mr. Pickles on November 20, 2024, 09:28:14 AM
I saw a thing on insta yesterday, like a picture of a tweet that said something like “having a hard time telling my parents that anyone under the age of 50 doesn’t believe that anything good will ever happen again.”

Basically that.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mongo Lloyd on November 20, 2024, 09:31:08 AM
Anyone think that, with EM and the DOGE and all these appointments of folks who liberals really dislike, that EM is “advising” DT on appointments based on twitter algorithms/search histories im a manner to strictly “pwn the libs?” Homeboy doesn’t need the US to function for his fortune to continue growing- his investment in the DT campaign is eerily similar to his investment in twitter- he owns it, controls it, can crash it for the sake of his ego.


Tldr:

Is the US the new twitter for EM to destroy ?

Fucking solid observation that hadn’t crossed my mind.

I think this is likely the case.

Is the “tear it all down” ethos just to harm others, or is it with economic intent? Perhaps both?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on November 20, 2024, 05:11:25 PM
What inspired Musk to turn into a complete kook? Is it just Biden not inviting him to an EV meeting because Tesla refuses to allow unions ("Biden doesn't stand up for the working class"  ::)   ) and because he had to follow covid protocols during the pandemic?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: augustmoon on November 20, 2024, 05:14:37 PM
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Anyone think that, with EM and the DOGE and all these appointments of folks who liberals really dislike, that EM is “advising” DT on appointments based on twitter algorithms/search histories im a manner to strictly “pwn the libs?” Homeboy doesn’t need the US to function for his fortune to continue growing- his investment in the DT campaign is eerily similar to his investment in twitter- he owns it, controls it, can crash it for the sake of his ego.


Tldr:

Is the US the new twitter for EM to destroy ?
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Fucking solid observation that hadn’t crossed my mind.

I think this is likely the case.

Is the “tear it all down” ethos just to harm others, or is it with economic intent? Perhaps both?

Destroy everything to build it back up under their rules and for their profit.  They’ll turn us all into their serfs and claim “the greater good” to justify it.  Ex: Musk’s hollow benevolence under the guise of technological advancement.  A “good guy” with a cause and unlimited money might be one of the most dangerous situations the world has ever found itself in.  It will be used to justify horrible things.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on November 20, 2024, 05:40:35 PM
Burn it all down, remove all federal agencies and replace those agencies with private companies who will be most likely ran by friends of theirs and/or be companies they have financial stake in.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: pugmaster on November 20, 2024, 06:05:49 PM
Me: Ok Google *bleeping noise from phone*... define Oligarchy.

Google:
1: government by the few
2: a government in which a small group exercises control, especially for corrupt and selfish purposes
3: an organization under oligarchic control

Me:
Well... shit.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on November 20, 2024, 06:26:56 PM
The fact that Trump hasn't signed his ethics pledge shows he's purposely going to use this term to truly enrich himself and friends. He's not even pretending. He's simply just skirting it. Look at all those damn watches and guitars he keeps hocking.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: pugmaster on November 20, 2024, 06:37:32 PM
The fact that Trump hasn't signed his ethics pledge shows he's purposely going to use this term to truly enrich himself and friends. He's not even pretending. He's simply just skirting it. Look at all those damn watches and guitars he keeps hocking.

https://collecttrumpcards.com/ (https://collecttrumpcards.com/)

Beyond comprehension. But non-Maga are "sheep" lol wtf
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on November 20, 2024, 06:43:48 PM
Like John Oliver mentioned, I truly believe he'll take it upon himself to make Truth Social the official platform for news from the White House and he'll make it a pay subscription.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: DaleSr on November 21, 2024, 10:05:07 AM
What inspired Musk to turn into a complete kook? Is it just Biden not inviting him to an EV meeting because Tesla refuses to allow unions ("Biden doesn't stand up for the working class"  ::)   ) and because he had to follow covid protocols during the pandemic?

He's a racist afrikaaner whose father owned a fucking emerald mine. He was fucked from birth and has only leaned into his racism as an adult with a dash of his cringe 2012 era internet "i can has big chungus" humor. Oh that and his weird ass breeding fetish
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on November 21, 2024, 10:15:49 AM
Gaetz is gone
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Franksnose76 on November 21, 2024, 10:46:04 AM
What kills me and maybe you'll too.  The fact that during the 80's there a lot of anti communism rhetoric and propaganda throughout in cartoons albeit GI Joe/Rambo I'm sure others as well movies etc... Now here we're letting the Kremlin and other billionaires interfere as well foreign governments we use to have beef with now it's let's suck each other off and whatnot else. Our country is fucked, this country used to stand for something. The middle and working class building up the economy everyone's getting the shaft these day's (blaming others when it's poor vs. rich) If anything else I think Democrats are just as spineless for letting this happen.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on November 21, 2024, 10:48:08 AM
Gaetz is gone

Nomination got too old apparently.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Resin on November 21, 2024, 11:26:20 AM
Gaetz is gone

And claims that he's doing it to remove that as a distraction to Trump's transition, which I believe to be total bullshit; I think he knows how guilty he is, and that the investigation has him cornered. Looks to be a self-preserving move, allowing him to (sort of) lay low and receive a pardon if any conviction actually occurs. Maybe he figures that the position of AG will put him in the crosshairs of more investigation.

And that's not even to mention that him being an accused pedophile undermines the insane obsession with pedophilia that is signature MAGA shit. But then again, the MAGA drones would probably dismiss it anyway in favor of persecuting the REAL pedophiles, i.e., the libtards
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on November 21, 2024, 11:53:10 AM
Brazil indicted their coup leader, we voted ours back in.

https://apnews.com/article/brazil-jair-bolsonaro-indictment-0d62fe0a7399483aee48cf3c845560ea

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on November 21, 2024, 02:19:26 PM
Brazil indicted their coup leader, we voted ours back in.

https://apnews.com/article/brazil-jair-bolsonaro-indictment-0d62fe0a7399483aee48cf3c845560ea

To be fair, we indicted ours a few times and even convicted him of 30+ felonies. It is just his electoral win that has allowed him to escape justice. 

Also, of course the head of the FAA will be an airline lobbyist.
https://jacobin.com/2024/11/trump-airlines-deregulation-transportation-secretary

Finally, I wonder what we can do to bring people back into reality. I worry the left lacks the religious fervor that inspires evangelism. I feel we need to running for local offices and start acting as community organizers to pull people away from crazy. We need to think of ways to welcome people but also let them softly know that conservatives are going to hurt them more than they help them.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on November 21, 2024, 03:18:46 PM
I think we’ll miss having Gaetz as AG.   There are crazies like Kash Patel and others who Trump could stick there instead of the FBI.  Gaetz was crazy.   He is rich, disgusting and corrupt, and but is a comprehensible disgustingness .   The die hard Maga ones are the ones that scare me
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: EdLawndale on November 21, 2024, 03:40:07 PM

Finally, I wonder what we can do to bring people back into reality. I worry the left lacks the religious fervor that inspires evangelism. I feel we need to running for local offices and start acting as community organizers to pull people away from crazy. We need to think of ways to welcome people but also let them softly know that conservatives are going to hurt them more than they help them.

I'm certainly not promoting it, and I could very well be wrong (hope so), but I could see the possibility of both sides turning to guerilla-style violence.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: augustmoon on November 21, 2024, 03:46:57 PM
I definitely see this happening now.  I see mass protests leading to massacres by the military like Kent State or even Tiannemen square.  More acts of terrorism.  We’ll probably see some kind of Oklahoma City mass casualty event. 
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: EdLawndale on November 21, 2024, 04:01:14 PM
I think it all depends on how far those who are in power attempt to push their facist agenda. I really don't see the American public going down easy with rolling back the civil liberties for which they've fought so hard.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on November 21, 2024, 04:10:03 PM
I think we’ll miss having Gaetz as AG.   There are crazies like Kash Patel and others who Trump could stick there instead of the FBI.  Gaetz was crazy.   He is rich, disgusting and corrupt, and but is a comprehensible disgustingness .   The die hard Maga ones are the ones that scare me


Eh it’s some blonde woman who used to be the Florida AG.   Name doesn’t set off any immediate alarms bells
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: sexualhelon on November 22, 2024, 08:22:34 AM
Okay, so, putting my actual sentiments aside: the stock market has been rallying - capitalist/corporate America seems happy about Trump being elected. Thoughts on how Trump will *actually* affect the economy? Will he make any actual positive changes and keep this momentum? Or will it all come tumbling down once he's actually in office? How will his changes impact "normal" people, economically speaking?

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Franksnose76 on November 22, 2024, 09:01:47 AM
Okay, so, putting my actual sentiments aside: the stock market has been rallying - capitalist/corporate America seems happy about Trump being elected. Thoughts on how Trump will *actually* affect the economy? Will he make any actual positive changes and keep this momentum? Or will it all come tumbling down once he's actually in office? How will his changes impact "normal" people, economically speaking?
If you're rich or have inherited wealth you're good as with any Republican presidency, saw it with Reagan, Bush Jr and now Trump.  The Democrats try to help but seem to be failing at any opportunity they can seize, or they're in on it too, 😐 there seems to be more and more xenophobia and subtle to outright racist rhetoric each presidential race, look back at history and you'll see.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Shtonk on November 22, 2024, 10:18:55 AM
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I think it all depends on how far those who are in power attempt to push their facist agenda. I really don't see the American public going down easy with rolling back the civil liberties for which they've fought so hard.
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Maybe i’m high but you got me legit chuckling over here, homie!

Yeah same. What planet have you been living on the last few years Ed? You mean civil liberties like Roe vs Wade? Like actual free speech? Like equal rights? Like an impartial justice system? All of these are gone already. You live in a country that is now censoring history books. ALL of the power branches of your government are about to be under Trump's control. What the fuck do you think is going to happen?!?!

Next BLM/MeToo like movement is gonna be hit by an army of Rittenhouses and nobodys gonna do a damn thing. Are you ready to defend or be among those standing up for what's right when crazed militias and cops will attack you in unison? When exactly is that point where the American people start "not going down easy"??? You are headed for the abyss and who of you is actually arming up to start doing the liberty-defending you're talking about?!

I haven't been following this and the pre-election thread closely but has there been any moment where you centrist moderate liberals with your arrogant know-it-all analyses bowed your heads in shame and acknowledged that you were dead fucking wrong? All I can see is the same people who were waxing all statesmanlike about how exactly  Kamala was beating Trump and employing perfect strategies, now going on in the same "rational" manner about a future that should do nothing but first humble you, scare you to death and then lead you to start adapting the more radical stances of the people you've been dismissing who turns out were right ALL ALONG. Any one of you not seriously considering ways of joining a resistance is absolutely fooling themselves. Trump is about to end the American democracy. If left unchecked, the next four years will damage your country beyond the hope of repair. Join unions, left wing gun clubs, local initiatives and prepare to walk the walk, because "not going down easy" is about to get 100% real.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: EdLawndale on November 22, 2024, 11:02:49 AM
Are you serious? I just...I just told you that.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: JoseCansnake0 on November 22, 2024, 11:53:35 AM
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I think it all depends on how far those who are in power attempt to push their facist agenda. I really don't see the American public going down easy with rolling back the civil liberties for which they've fought so hard.
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Maybe i’m high but you got me legit chuckling over here, homie!
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Yeah same. What planet have you been living on the last few years Ed? You mean civil liberties like Roe vs Wade? Like actual free speech? Like equal rights? Like an impartial justice system? All of these are gone already. You live in a country that is now censoring history books. ALL of the power branches of your government are about to be under Trump's control. What the fuck do you think is going to happen?!?!

Next BLM/MeToo like movement is gonna be hit by an army of Rittenhouses and nobodys gonna do a damn thing. Are you ready to defend or be among those standing up for what's right when crazed militias and cops will attack you in unison? When exactly is that point where the American people start "not going down easy"??? You are headed for the abyss and who of you is actually arming up to start doing the liberty-defending you're talking about?!

I haven't been following this and the pre-election thread closely but has there been any moment where you centrist moderate liberals with your arrogant know-it-all analyses bowed your heads in shame and acknowledged that you were dead fucking wrong? All I can see is the same people who were waxing all statesmanlike about how exactly  Kamala was beating Trump and employing perfect strategies, now going on in the same "rational" manner about a future that should do nothing but first humble you, scare you to death and then lead you to start adapting the more radical stances of the people you've been dismissing who turns out were right ALL ALONG. Any one of you not seriously considering ways of joining a resistance is absolutely fooling themselves. Trump is about to end the American democracy. If left unchecked, the next four years will damage your country beyond the hope of repair. Join unions, left wing gun clubs, local initiatives and prepare to walk the walk, because "not going down easy" is about to get 100% real.

Am I to believe you don't even live in the USA? How exactly do you think you know so much, as to PREDICT THE FUTURE OF THE USA? You are out of your fucking mind mate. This is the shit you're to scared to post on X, so you come to a fucking skateboard forum and post dumb ass hypothetical theories like this. Fucking sad really. Do you really think Kamala would've fixed all/any of this in 4 years? Hell no. She's just as bad as the rest of them.

We'll be just fine. As for you, go outside, look around, and start trying to fix the community that surrounds you for the better. Pretty please
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Franksnose76 on November 22, 2024, 01:10:40 PM
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I think it all depends on how far those who are in power attempt to push their facist agenda. I really don't see the American public going down easy with rolling back the civil liberties for which they've fought so hard.
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Maybe i’m high but you got me legit chuckling over here, homie!
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Yeah same. What planet have you been living on the last few years Ed? You mean civil liberties like Roe vs Wade? Like actual free speech? Like equal rights? Like an impartial justice system? All of these are gone already. You live in a country that is now censoring history books. ALL of the power branches of your government are about to be under Trump's control. What the fuck do you think is going to happen?!?!

Next BLM/MeToo like movement is gonna be hit by an army of Rittenhouses and nobodys gonna do a damn thing. Are you ready to defend or be among those standing up for what's right when crazed militias and cops will attack you in unison? When exactly is that point where the American people start "not going down easy"??? You are headed for the abyss and who of you is actually arming up to start doing the liberty-defending you're talking about?!

I haven't been following this and the pre-election thread closely but has there been any moment where you centrist moderate liberals with your arrogant know-it-all analyses bowed your heads in shame and acknowledged that you were dead fucking wrong? All I can see is the same people who were waxing all statesmanlike about how exactly  Kamala was beating Trump and employing perfect strategies, now going on in the same "rational" manner about a future that should do nothing but first humble you, scare you to death and then lead you to start adapting the more radical stances of the people you've been dismissing who turns out were right ALL ALONG. Any one of you not seriously considering ways of joining a resistance is absolutely fooling themselves. Trump is about to end the American democracy. If left unchecked, the next four years will damage your country beyond the hope of repair. Join unions, left wing gun clubs, local initiatives and prepare to walk the walk, because "not going down easy" is about to get 100% real.
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Am I to believe you don't even live in the USA? How exactly do you think you know so much, as to PREDICT THE FUTURE OF THE USA? You are out of your fucking mind mate. This is the shit you're to scared to post on X, so you come to a fucking skateboard forum and post dumb ass hypothetical theories like this. Fucking sad really. Do you really think Kamala would've fixed all/any of this in 4 years? Hell no. She's just as bad as the rest of them.

We'll be just fine. As for you, go outside, look around, and start trying to fix the community that surrounds you for the better. Pretty please
Dude you're an idiot, no really you must have been one of those jackholes that either didn't vote or put something stupid in your nominee box.  If you don't see the writing on the wall with history repeating itself than the blood that's going to be spilled by Nazis and other proud boys dolts is on your hands.

Don't bitch about anything if you didn't vote.   I voted and got the raw deal too, and everyone of us going to get the shaft.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Rusty Shackleford on November 22, 2024, 02:36:25 PM
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here's a change, we all have the opportunity to rock just a little bit harder with these tacky shein guitars
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: garbage_wagon on November 22, 2024, 02:52:18 PM
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here's a change, we all have the opportunity to rock just a little bit harder with these tacky shein guitars

He looks like a body double of himself. Maybe it is. Dictators usually do that.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Painted Baby on November 22, 2024, 03:00:25 PM
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here's a change, we all have the opportunity to rock just a little bit harder with these tacky shein guitars
I've already watched a video on this from Guitar Tube. Basically, Gibson just served a Canadian luthier for making Vs and the question is if they will purse a C&D on what is obviously a Les Paul copy. Gibson also had a copyright dispute with Dean over Vs and Explorers reversed and the case will need to be retried. The question is if they are in a fighting mood.

Right now, I'm enjoying the nomination to ruination pipeline. Gaetz is fucked for now. Maybe nationally forever. I think Hegseth is about to get cut with the police report that was released yesterday. He's the guy that will for sure open fire on US citizens so I hope he has to crawl into the muskrat hole of the right wing streamer void with Michael Flynn and all the other radioactive Trump alumni.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on November 22, 2024, 03:00:53 PM
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He looks like a body double of himself. Maybe it is. Dictators usually do that.

Kimmel pointed out (bc there’s another event he did that made people question) that Trumps body double would be hilariously complementary to what Trump thinks he looks like not what he actually does
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: EdLawndale on November 22, 2024, 03:32:01 PM
@EdLawndale

Yo homie, please know i was not trying to call you out or make fun of you. You know i like you 😁

I just don’t think those who would take to the streets in that sorta way will realize (ciz they havent already) whats being taken

No worries, IUTSM, I didn't take offense.

I think (fear) the reason we haven't seen a lot of demonstrating in the streets after this recent Trump win, like in 2016, is because the mood has changed.

And not necessarily out of complacency but, rather, a general feeling of unease, like what's at stake has graduated to a whole new level. One where the general American public kind of understands/expects that there will be a lot of fighting in the near future to do, so may as well save its strength for now.

In addition to all the violence since Trump first got into office (ppl getting run over and shot at demonstrations, January 6, proud boy militias planning to kidnap politicians, etc.), there were at least two assassination attempts during this latest campaign...and ppl were kind of cool with it, some even openly stating that they wouldn't have minded if one had been successful.

In my opinion, folks may have been conducting themselves in a relatively civil manner while Roe Vs. Wade was overturned, while  affirmative action was reversed, while [insert civil liberty reversion here] has been going on...but that has all been before the election.

There was hope that the country wouldn't actually go down this rabbit hole. Now the election has happened and the far right won and they got a lot of power and can make a lot of the agenda come true and last for a while. And that is demoralizing.

And I doubt ppl are just going to stand around while the country starts executing drug addicts, deporting our friends and neighbors, killing protesters, reinstituting segregation, etc.

Or maybe they will, I really don't know. But I doubt it.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Franksnose76 on November 22, 2024, 05:44:16 PM
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@EdLawndale

Yo homie, please know i was not trying to call you out or make fun of you. You know i like you 😁

I just don’t think those who would take to the streets in that sorta way will realize (ciz they havent already) whats being taken
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No worries, IUTSM, I didn't take offense.

I think (fear) the reason we haven't seen a lot of demonstrating in the streets after this recent Trump win, like in 2016, is because the mood has changed.

And not necessarily out of complacency but, rather, a general feeling of unease, like what's at stake has graduated to a whole new level. One where the general American public kind of understands/expects that there will be a lot of fighting in the near future to do, so may as well save its strength for now.

In addition to all the violence since Trump first got into office (ppl getting run over and shot at demonstrations, January 6, proud boy militias planning to kidnap politicians, etc.), there were at least two assassination attempts during this latest campaign...and ppl were kind of cool with it, some even openly stating that they wouldn't have minded if one had been successful.

In my opinion, folks may have been conducting themselves in a relatively civil manner while Roe Vs. Wade was overturned, while  affirmative action was reversed, while [insert civil liberty reversion here] has been going on...but that has all been before the election.

There was hope that the country wouldn't actually go down this rabbit hole. Now the election has happened and the far right won and they got a lot of power and can make a lot of the agenda come true and last for a while. And that is demoralizing.

And I doubt ppl are just going to stand around while the country starts executing drug addicts, deporting our friends and neighbors, killing protesters, reinstituting segregation, etc.

Or maybe they will, I really don't know. But I doubt it.
I'd imagine his deportation as the night of long knives where they rounded up Jews in the ghettos. I've got a few theories cooking btw...  To further add my grandma and aunt spoke about being kids whenever that went down. Much like Trump's wallet was supposed to be paid for by Mexico this coupe attempt at deportation will likely be paid for by us, and his golf trips etc...
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: JoseCansnake0 on November 22, 2024, 05:51:39 PM
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I think it all depends on how far those who are in power attempt to push their facist agenda. I really don't see the American public going down easy with rolling back the civil liberties for which they've fought so hard.
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Maybe i’m high but you got me legit chuckling over here, homie!
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Yeah same. What planet have you been living on the last few years Ed? You mean civil liberties like Roe vs Wade? Like actual free speech? Like equal rights? Like an impartial justice system? All of these are gone already. You live in a country that is now censoring history books. ALL of the power branches of your government are about to be under Trump's control. What the fuck do you think is going to happen?!?!

Next BLM/MeToo like movement is gonna be hit by an army of Rittenhouses and nobodys gonna do a damn thing. Are you ready to defend or be among those standing up for what's right when crazed militias and cops will attack you in unison? When exactly is that point where the American people start "not going down easy"??? You are headed for the abyss and who of you is actually arming up to start doing the liberty-defending you're talking about?!

I haven't been following this and the pre-election thread closely but has there been any moment where you centrist moderate liberals with your arrogant know-it-all analyses bowed your heads in shame and acknowledged that you were dead fucking wrong? All I can see is the same people who were waxing all statesmanlike about how exactly  Kamala was beating Trump and employing perfect strategies, now going on in the same "rational" manner about a future that should do nothing but first humble you, scare you to death and then lead you to start adapting the more radical stances of the people you've been dismissing who turns out were right ALL ALONG. Any one of you not seriously considering ways of joining a resistance is absolutely fooling themselves. Trump is about to end the American democracy. If left unchecked, the next four years will damage your country beyond the hope of repair. Join unions, left wing gun clubs, local initiatives and prepare to walk the walk, because "not going down easy" is about to get 100% real.
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Am I to believe you don't even live in the USA? How exactly do you think you know so much, as to PREDICT THE FUTURE OF THE USA? You are out of your fucking mind mate. This is the shit you're to scared to post on X, so you come to a fucking skateboard forum and post dumb ass hypothetical theories like this. Fucking sad really. Do you really think Kamala would've fixed all/any of this in 4 years? Hell no. She's just as bad as the rest of them.

We'll be just fine. As for you, go outside, look around, and start trying to fix the community that surrounds you for the better. Pretty please
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Dude you're an idiot, no really you must have been one of those jackholes that either didn't vote or put something stupid in your nominee box.  If you don't see the writing on the wall with history repeating itself than the blood that's going to be spilled by Nazis and other proud boys dolts is on your hands.

Don't bitch about anything if you didn't vote.   I voted and got the raw deal too, and everyone of us going to get the shaft.

Fear mongering is a real thing. You're living in fear, and it must suck to be that weak.

Look around the world buddy, it's happening everywhere for a variety of reasons, and has been for thousands of years. The fact that you think Nazi's and proud boys are going to take over the USA and shed blood proves that you're an idiot. Stay pessimistic and angry playboy, you're one of them deep down inside.

also, I voted
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on November 22, 2024, 06:09:52 PM
Things are going to be worse and better than anyone expects. We (right, left, indifferent) are all operating on assumptions of  what Trump and his cronies will be able to accomplish and how groups of people will react to these actions.

I think of the 90s when Clinton worked with Gingrich to reduce the number of people receiving welfare benefits by 50%. Democrats were absolutely dismayed as they assumed this meant a bunch of people would be completely fucked and Republicans thought this was going to be great and people were going to pull themselves up by the bootstraps and poverty would be alleviated because there were "no more incentives to be poor  ::) ."

The reality was that the number of people in poverty stayed the same and poverty got worse, but poor people have networks that they rely on that sort of cushioned the blow. Neither group's assumptions were perfect predictors of the future and to different degrees, neither fully understood the issue at hand.

Trump 2.0 is going to be the same. We all have decent predictions based on our interpretation of what reality is right now and how people will respond to this shit show, but it won't turn out exactly as we expect. I'm guessing this is going to suck and take us the wrong direction, but we had 4 years of putting the country first and the Build Back Better bill is going to start making an impact, congress is not 100% republican, Trump's team will trip over its own feet as these grifters argue with one another, and sometimes these idiots will do something that doesn't suck. It'll mostly suck but there will be moments when the broken clock tells the correct time.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on November 22, 2024, 07:03:52 PM
Things are going to be worse and better than anyone expects. We (right, left, indifferent) are all operating on assumptions of  what Trump and his cronies will be able to accomplish and how groups of people will react to these actions.

I think of the 90s when Clinton worked with Gingrich to reduce the number of people receiving welfare benefits by 50%. Democrats were absolutely dismayed as they assumed this meant a bunch of people would be completely fucked and Republicans thought this was going to be great and people were going to pull themselves up by the bootstraps and poverty would be alleviated because there were "no more incentives to be poor  ::) ."

The reality was that the number of people in poverty stayed the same and poverty got worse, but poor people have networks that they rely on that sort of cushioned the blow. Neither group's assumptions were perfect predictors of the future and to different degrees, neither fully understood the issue at hand.

Trump 2.0 is going to be the same. We all have decent predictions based on our interpretation of what reality is right now and how people will respond to this shit show, but it won't turn out exactly as we expect. I'm guessing this is going to suck and take us the wrong direction, but we had 4 years of putting the country first and the Build Back Better bill is going to start making an impact, congress is not 100% republican, Trump's team will trip over its own feet as these grifters argue with one another, and sometimes these idiots will do something that doesn't suck. It'll mostly suck but there will be moments when the broken clock tells the correct time.


You nailed it - the good economic things will be vestiges of Biden’s good economic moves and the bad things will punish the democrat who gets elected who has to fix them and despite this being the norm for 100 years plus, voters will never get it.    (Sorry IUTSM in advance for the broad strokes, you always ding me on that)


I am nervous for the destruction of departments like education that maga ran on destroying.   Basically the ones that all the joke candidates are elected to run.   
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: S. on November 23, 2024, 12:49:27 AM
Things are going to be worse and better than anyone expects. We (right, left, indifferent) are all operating on assumptions of  what Trump and his cronies will be able to accomplish and how groups of people will react to these actions.

I think of the 90s when Clinton worked with Gingrich to reduce the number of people receiving welfare benefits by 50%. Democrats were absolutely dismayed as they assumed this meant a bunch of people would be completely fucked and Republicans thought this was going to be great and people were going to pull themselves up by the bootstraps and poverty would be alleviated because there were "no more incentives to be poor  ::) ."

The reality was that the number of people in poverty stayed the same and poverty got worse, but poor people have networks that they rely on that sort of cushioned the blow. Neither group's assumptions were perfect predictors of the future and to different degrees, neither fully understood the issue at hand.

Trump 2.0 is going to be the same. We all have decent predictions based on our interpretation of what reality is right now and how people will respond to this shit show, but it won't turn out exactly as we expect. I'm guessing this is going to suck and take us the wrong direction, but we had 4 years of putting the country first and the Build Back Better bill is going to start making an impact, congress is not 100% republican, Trump's team will trip over its own feet as these grifters argue with one another, and sometimes these idiots will do something that doesn't suck. It'll mostly suck but there will be moments when the broken clock tells the correct time.


It also further escalated numbers of prisoners. Prisons have basically taken over the role of the social state. It is mostly a place for poor people, the mentally illy, uneducated Latinos and African Americans. Basically those that in most other western states rely on some form of government support.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Franksnose76 on November 23, 2024, 07:55:57 AM
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I think it all depends on how far those who are in power attempt to push their facist agenda. I really don't see the American public going down easy with rolling back the civil liberties for which they've fought so hard.
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Maybe i’m high but you got me legit chuckling over here, homie!
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Yeah same. What planet have you been living on the last few years Ed? You mean civil liberties like Roe vs Wade? Like actual free speech? Like equal rights? Like an impartial justice system? All of these are gone already. You live in a country that is now censoring history books. ALL of the power branches of your government are about to be under Trump's control. What the fuck do you think is going to happen?!?!

Next BLM/MeToo like movement is gonna be hit by an army of Rittenhouses and nobodys gonna do a damn thing. Are you ready to defend or be among those standing up for what's right when crazed militias and cops will attack you in unison? When exactly is that point where the American people start "not going down easy"??? You are headed for the abyss and who of you is actually arming up to start doing the liberty-defending you're talking about?!

I haven't been following this and the pre-election thread closely but has there been any moment where you centrist moderate liberals with your arrogant know-it-all analyses bowed your heads in shame and acknowledged that you were dead fucking wrong? All I can see is the same people who were waxing all statesmanlike about how exactly  Kamala was beating Trump and employing perfect strategies, now going on in the same "rational" manner about a future that should do nothing but first humble you, scare you to death and then lead you to start adapting the more radical stances of the people you've been dismissing who turns out were right ALL ALONG. Any one of you not seriously considering ways of joining a resistance is absolutely fooling themselves. Trump is about to end the American democracy. If left unchecked, the next four years will damage your country beyond the hope of repair. Join unions, left wing gun clubs, local initiatives and prepare to walk the walk, because "not going down easy" is about to get 100% real.
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Am I to believe you don't even live in the USA? How exactly do you think you know so much, as to PREDICT THE FUTURE OF THE USA? You are out of your fucking mind mate. This is the shit you're to scared to post on X, so you come to a fucking skateboard forum and post dumb ass hypothetical theories like this. Fucking sad really. Do you really think Kamala would've fixed all/any of this in 4 years? Hell no. She's just as bad as the rest of them.

We'll be just fine. As for you, go outside, look around, and start trying to fix the community that surrounds you for the better. Pretty please
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Dude you're an idiot, no really you must have been one of those jackholes that either didn't vote or put something stupid in your nominee box.  If you don't see the writing on the wall with history repeating itself than the blood that's going to be spilled by Nazis and other proud boys dolts is on your hands.

Don't bitch about anything if you didn't vote.   I voted and got the raw deal too, and everyone of us going to get the shaft.
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Fear mongering is a real thing. You're living in fear, and it must suck to be that weak.

Look around the world buddy, it's happening everywhere for a variety of reasons, and has been for thousands of years. The fact that you think Nazi's and proud boys are going to take over the USA and shed blood proves that you're an idiot. Stay pessimistic and angry playboy, you're one of them deep down inside.

also, I voted
Whoa whoa whoa there dork, Check your privileges for one thing jack, I guarantee if you were a person of color such as myself you'd have a different perspective.  In fact those that aren't white as well lgbtq+ have a larger target on their back. You say fear mongering and weakness,  that's been ingrained well before you and I existed once again check your fucking privilege. Fuck you for being that tone deaf to those around you who can screwed, must be Nice to have a smug attitude from where you can make these assumptions.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Alan on November 23, 2024, 08:16:19 AM
I'd imagine his deportation as the night of long knives where they rounded up Jews in the ghettos.

Sorry for the digression but I have to jump in here. The Night of the Long Knives took place in 1934, when Hitler neutralized the SA (the Nazi muscle/revolutionary/paramilitary org). The Night of Broken Glass happened in 1938 and was a series of pogroms where Jewish property, synagogues, etc. across Germany were plundered and destroyed. Hundreds of Jews were murdered and many more ended up in prison or camps, but most were released soon thereafter. Nazis created the ghettos a few years later later in occupied Eastern Europe, along with concentration and extermination camps. German Jews were sent to these places in order to hide the genocide from the German population (which wanted the Jews gone, but reacted negatively to seeing the violence against Jews play out in front of their eyes).
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Franksnose76 on November 23, 2024, 09:30:33 AM
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Sorry for the digression but I have to jump in here. The Night of the Long Knives took place in 1934, when Hitler neutralized the SA (the Nazi muscle/revolutionary/paramilitary org). The Night of Broken Glass happened in 1938 and was a series of pogroms where Jewish property, synagogues, etc. across Germany were plundered and destroyed. Hundreds of Jews were murdered and many more ended up in prison or camps, but most were released soon thereafter. Nazis created the ghettos a few years later later in occupied Eastern Europe, along with concentration and extermination camps. German Jews were sent to these places in order to hide the genocide from the German population (which wanted the Jews gone, but reacted negatively to seeing the violence against Jews play out in front of their eyes).
Thanks for the correction, you get my point though, there's going to be a lot of disruption for migrants maybe not as bad as night of the broken glass but equally horrifying as well tragic.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: DaleSr on November 23, 2024, 10:36:44 AM
I think the issue that is stopping most people from engaging in any mass movement is that people under 50 don't think anything good is gonna happen in their life. There was mass mobilization around BLM, the women's march, pro Palestinian protests, and what did we get in response?
 In 2020 the DNC rallied around an ancient politician who was anti bussing and has been on the wrong side of every major political issue in his career over a candidate that had a groundswell of popular support from their base. The BLM protests were co-opted and then buried with no major changes to policing enacted. Obama failed to codify Roe, then after he helped clear the field to give Hillary the nom, the dems eat shit, then trump's supreme court nominees overturn roe v wade. Then in 2024 the majority of Americans are rightfully horrified by the genocide in gaza and mobilize, most of it occurring on college campuses. The democratic administration responds by siccing cops on them and beating them, arresting them and censoring free speech. Then that ancient unpopular president had to be forced out of the contest because it was blatantly clear that he was too fucking old to continue, they rally around his vp who didn't even get to early state voting in the primary because she was so unpopular. She fails to separate herself at all from the current administration that, despite how much people say "the economy is so strong and good!", most people are making less and the cost for everything has gone up significantly. All of this creates a perfect storm to convince millions of people to just not vote this year because to them, things are only going to get worse. The most craven and awful people in our culture and government get to wreak havoc and the opposition barely has an appetite to even pretend they're going to overturn what trump did, let alone lay out a new direction or inspire hope.

This is the main obstacle to anyone hitting the streets in any major numbers. Things are going to have to get significantly worse for a lot of people before anyone is driven to get up and fight. I'm not holding my breath
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Shitbag on November 23, 2024, 12:19:34 PM
I can’t afford three apples so I put one back and only could buy two……wait a minute what’s this??
A ten thousand dollar guitar???
Holy shit SIGN ME UP!!!!
Derrrrrrrrrrrp!!!
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Franksnose76 on November 23, 2024, 12:44:09 PM
I think the issue that is stopping most people from engaging in any mass movement is that people under 50 don't think anything good is gonna happen in their life. There was mass mobilization around BLM, the women's march, pro Palestinian protests, and what did we get in response?
 In 2020 the DNC rallied around an ancient politician who was anti bussing and has been on the wrong side of every major political issue in his career over a candidate that had a groundswell of popular support from their base. The BLM protests were co-opted and then buried with no major changes to policing enacted. Obama failed to codify Roe, then after he helped clear the field to give Hillary the nom, the dems eat shit, then trump's supreme court nominees overturn roe v wade. Then in 2024 the majority of Americans are rightfully horrified by the genocide in gaza and mobilize, most of it occurring on college campuses. The democratic administration responds by siccing cops on them and beating them, arresting them and censoring free speech. Then that ancient unpopular president had to be forced out of the contest because it was blatantly clear that he was too fucking old to continue, they rally around his vp who didn't even get to early state voting in the primary because she was so unpopular. She fails to separate herself at all from the current administration that, despite how much people say "the economy is so strong and good!", most people are making less and the cost for everything has gone up significantly. All of this creates a perfect storm to convince millions of people to just not vote this year because to them, things are only going to get worse. The most craven and awful people in our culture and government get to wreak havoc and the opposition barely has an appetite to even pretend they're going to overturn what trump did, let alone lay out a new direction or inspire hope.

This is the main obstacle to anyone hitting the streets in any major numbers. Things are going to have to get significantly worse for a lot of people before anyone is driven to get up and fight. I'm not holding my breath
This right here
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: sexualhelon on November 23, 2024, 02:12:02 PM
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I think the issue that is stopping most people from engaging in any mass movement is that people under 50 don't think anything good is gonna happen in their life. There was mass mobilization around BLM, the women's march, pro Palestinian protests, and what did we get in response?
 In 2020 the DNC rallied around an ancient politician who was anti bussing and has been on the wrong side of every major political issue in his career over a candidate that had a groundswell of popular support from their base. The BLM protests were co-opted and then buried with no major changes to policing enacted. Obama failed to codify Roe, then after he helped clear the field to give Hillary the nom, the dems eat shit, then trump's supreme court nominees overturn roe v wade. Then in 2024 the majority of Americans are rightfully horrified by the genocide in gaza and mobilize, most of it occurring on college campuses. The democratic administration responds by siccing cops on them and beating them, arresting them and censoring free speech. Then that ancient unpopular president had to be forced out of the contest because it was blatantly clear that he was too fucking old to continue, they rally around his vp who didn't even get to early state voting in the primary because she was so unpopular. She fails to separate herself at all from the current administration that, despite how much people say "the economy is so strong and good!", most people are making less and the cost for everything has gone up significantly. All of this creates a perfect storm to convince millions of people to just not vote this year because to them, things are only going to get worse. The most craven and awful people in our culture and government get to wreak havoc and the opposition barely has an appetite to even pretend they're going to overturn what trump did, let alone lay out a new direction or inspire hope.

This is the main obstacle to anyone hitting the streets in any major numbers. Things are going to have to get significantly worse for a lot of people before anyone is driven to get up and fight. I'm not holding my breath
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This right here

Bernie Sanders said, "It should come as no great surprise that a Democratic Party which has abandoned working class people would find that the working class has abandoned them.

While the Democratic leadership defends the status quo, the American people are angry and want change.

And they’re right."

Whatever your thoughts on Bernie are, I think this statement holds some truth. Both parties are right leaning and there was some point in the past where working class, middle American's felt the the Democratic party supported them more than the Republican party. The Republican side didn't like Trump at first either but for their demographic, it's a lot easier to just fall in line with his rhetoric and continue to line their pockets.

The Democrat side has a much more diverse group to convince - LGBTQ+, minorities, women, etc... - and seem to have failed to realize that they're somehow starting to lose ground there, just don't care, or are merging with the other side. I think part of the reason people went for Trump is just because wasn't a politician. His rise to power and events around it pointed out the utter ridiculousness of the system. People voted for him as a joke, some in protest, and some people actually turned to his side.

I think Bernie had some hype around him, same as Trump. A lot of people were really bummed to find out what really happened with him along with the DNC scandal. He was saying the healthcare, military industrial complex, pharmaceutical, and education system need to change amongst other things. Corporate America, rampant capitalism,  and the top 1% were mostly to blame.  Neither party wants someone who's going to actually try and represent the middle class and isn't also in the pocket of the top 1%. The top 1% definitely didn't want that.

Trump gave people someone to blame. The democrats, immigrants, China, the "woke", etc... However misguided, sometimes people just want someone to blame and he gave that to them.

Even the "you have a responsibility to vote for the lesser evil" argument - I think a lot of people just didn't care anymore. Neither side is going to actually do anything for the middle class. If you vote for the lesser evil, you're always going in the direction of evil. You're eventually going to end up somewhere like this. All the blame and finger pointing just continued to divide people even more.

I do think this generation is probably the most progressive ever. It'll take these people getting into politics and replacing the people there now. However, there's surely an awful lot of gate keeping and the current turds will be there until they die. 

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: ReTired on November 23, 2024, 03:09:23 PM
I expect it’ll be just like Trump’s first term - a lot of talk, a lot of being blocked, not much being done, just like every other president we’ve had in past decades, a million “promises” that won’t be kept and even then, one side will still screech like Hitler is in power despite having lived through his prior impotent term of being shut down on most of his plans, the other will cry about how he didn’t live up to expectations.  The usual rage/disappointment scenario of every president since I started voting in 1992.

I just find it funny that adults over 30 still care about politics and get heated about them and claim “THIS IS LIFE OR DEATH!” when we’ve all seen this same show before, it’s just a tired rerun no matter who is in office since politicians just work for the corporations who line their pockets and give them insider trading tips.  The media exists to keep fools believing nonsense so that nobody talks about how every politician is corrupt, it’s just a distraction to make you think your vote matters when the powers that be win either way.  It’d have been the same if Kamala was elected - prices would go up, promises would be broken, things would still get worse, and people would still cling to politics like team sports jock shit and blame a myriad of things other than that our political system sold out well before we were born and we’re just watching a puppet show at this point.  Everything is about money and power, there are no decent, honest politicians left, we could dump ‘em all in the ocean and watch them drown and we’d be at a net gain afterward.

When we reached a point where congresspeople who make about $140k/year end up worth $25-50 million after a decade or two on their salary and nobody cares, it shows that our political system is long dead, investing emotional concern over it now is just stupid because unless we tear it all down and start new, this is the sham circus we get until we die.  Even AOC is worth 10x what she should be, and her constituents don’t care that she’s just as bad as the rest of them now as long as she puts out an occasional post that they like.  But we’ll still bark about how “our person is better” after being screwed over every time, like it’s ever going to be different.  Precisely why I no longer care about who’s in office, I’m gonna get screwed either way, and I’ve got better things to do than pretend some rich asshole (or, some soon-to-be-rich asshole) actually cares about my struggles, I’m never not amazed by people thinking any politician actually gives a shit about anyone but themselves.  Fuck all of it, I’m gonna hit the park and skate instead, politicians don’t deserve our concern, they all deserve our scorn and ire, nothing more.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: garbage_wagon on November 23, 2024, 05:03:01 PM
I think the possibility of being charged with a felony is probably a deterrent for a lot of people to protest or organize. College students protesting for Palestine are being charged with felonies in some jurisdictions and I know a lot of BLM protesters were charged with felonies up to a year after the fact. That or just an overreaching malaise upon us all.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: EdLawndale on November 24, 2024, 10:07:17 AM
I’ve got better things to do than pretend some rich asshole (or, some soon-to-be-rich asshole) actually cares about my struggles ... Fuck all of it, I’m gonna hit the park and skate instead

Username checks out
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on November 25, 2024, 05:11:23 PM
Trump just promised a 25% tariff on EVERYTHING coming from Mexico and Canada. This means the wood for boards (Canada) and the boards themselves (BBS and PSStix). Prepare for $100 decks, everyone. Time to stockpile during the BF sales.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Chavo on November 25, 2024, 07:16:14 PM
Trump's tariff plan also applies to raw materials like sugar maple (he doesn't seem to understand that some parts of the world are naturally abundant in certain materials). This could destroy the hardgoods industry or otherwise Powell might be on top again.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Sedition on November 25, 2024, 07:23:48 PM
Trump just promised a 25% tariff on EVERYTHING coming from Mexico and Canada. This means the wood for boards (Canada) and the boards themselves (BBS and PSStix). Prepare for $100 decks, everyone. Time to stockpile during the BF sales.

Yeah. Saw that today and was like OH NO.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: garbage_wagon on November 25, 2024, 07:50:21 PM
I’ve seen tariffs as high as 100% percent on Mexican made goods mentioned. This would tank a trade deal with Mexico and Canada that Trump’s previous administration negotiated. Trump has his head up his ass and thinks it’s 1912 again when the US generated a lot of revenue from tariffs and there was no income tax yet.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Too Frank To Fred on November 25, 2024, 07:57:46 PM
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Trump just promised a 25% tariff on EVERYTHING coming from Mexico and Canada. This means the wood for boards (Canada) and the boards themselves (BBS and PSStix). Prepare for $100 decks, everyone. Time to stockpile during the BF sales.
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Yeah. Saw that today and was like OH NO.

Not just decks, obviously..  Wheels and trucks. Even Powell make a lot of stuff overseas.

Time to bring Ermico back to SF CA. I want to see Made in SF on my trucks and wheels again.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Scarecrow Radio on November 25, 2024, 08:08:07 PM
Time to bring Ermico back to SF CA. I want to see Made in SF on my trucks and wheels again.
THIS
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on November 25, 2024, 08:58:16 PM
Powell was the first to go to China. They started producing boards there in the 1980s.

Also, I wonder how this tariff will play out. I wonder what companies will get exceptions to the tariffs. Trump loves to have adult men lick his balls and they will be lining up around the block to get their company/product exempted from the tariffs.

I also wonder how those who voted based on the price of eggs will feel when prices go up again after finally stabilizing.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on November 25, 2024, 10:24:27 PM
On the real, I can kiss the bathroom addition to my house goodbye. The soaring cost of lumber and construction work will most likely make turn the $30K cost into $60k.

Fucccckkkkkk that.

I'm about to buy a portable camping toilet for now.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Scarecrow Radio on November 25, 2024, 11:06:41 PM
Musk and Don Jr. have been 'joking' about buying MSNBC and turning it into a right wing propaganda network
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: augustmoon on November 26, 2024, 03:12:44 AM
Musk has been tweeting nonstop about how all democrats are pedophiles, while republicans literally almost nominated Matt Gaetz for attorney general.  The rhetoric from Musk on Twitter is unrelenting.  The only conclusion I can gather is that he’s trying to enable real political violence.  Everyone seems asleep at the wheel. 
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Painted Baby on November 26, 2024, 04:38:30 AM
Musk has been tweeting nonstop about how all democrats are pedophiles, while republicans literally almost nominated Matt Gaetz for attorney general.  The rhetoric from Musk on Twitter is unrelenting.  The only conclusion I can gather is that he’s trying to enable real political violence.  Everyone seems asleep at the wheel.
He's an enabled drug addict oligarch. We've never seen anything like this before. Exactly the kind of feckless stoop who could wind up literal king of the world.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Jehoshaphat Augustus on November 26, 2024, 09:47:59 AM
There will be 15k+ individuals serving in the military (something Trump knows nothing about) who will lose their job based on who they are, day 1 of presidency.

https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-transgender-military-policy-b2652956.html

I miss the days when Elon's only contribution was that hot fire track about a long lost legend, gone far too soon.
https://youtu.be/Z1U2x63aERw

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on November 26, 2024, 05:14:43 PM
I'm going to bet the ruble makes a comeback in the next year. It seems to low partially because of the sanctions and war spending, but mainly because of the price of oil has gone down 50% since 2022.  Trump asked Saudi Arabia to cut oil production to raise the cost of oil once, I don't think he'd have a problem doing it again if Vlad asks nicely.

https://www.reuters.com/article/economy/special-report-trump-told-saudi-cut-oil-supply-or-lose-us-military-support--idUSKBN22C1V3/
https://www.macrotrends.net/1369/crude-oil-price-history-chart
(https://i.ibb.co/PCtc5Xr/Screenshot-2024-11-26-at-6-05-14-PM.png)
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Franksnose76 on November 30, 2024, 09:09:55 AM
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Musk has been tweeting nonstop about how all democrats are pedophiles, while republicans literally almost nominated Matt Gaetz for attorney general.  The rhetoric from Musk on Twitter is unrelenting.  The only conclusion I can gather is that he’s trying to enable real political violence.  Everyone seems asleep at the wheel.
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He's an enabled drug addict oligarch. We've never seen anything like this before. Exactly the kind of feckless stoop who could wind up literal king of the world.
It's mind boggling that Republican's try to make everything sexual whenever it comes to individual's just wanting to exist.

Maybe I'm clueless to some people and their own issues and for that I'll admit being ignorant. However whenever you look up Republicans being weirdos and creepy there's plenty of accusations and proof they are extremely repressed pervs.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2022/04/from-hastert-to-gaetz-lets-talk-about-republicans-and-sex-crimes.html
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: augustmoon on November 30, 2024, 12:40:10 PM
It’s been said a million times, but every accusation is a confession. 

Accuse the other side of what you are and what you intend to do, then gaslight it all away when you get caught doing what you once decried. 

The general public is so wrapped up in their sunken loss fallacy by that point that they will refuse to believe anything that shatters the facade, even when it’s staring them right in the face. 

See Matt Gaetz. 

Most of these right wingers want to make it legal to marry minors, they don’t care about pedos, they want to make it legal for themselves. 
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: JoseCansnake0 on November 30, 2024, 08:13:25 PM
I expect it’ll be just like Trump’s first term - a lot of talk, a lot of being blocked, not much being done, just like every other president we’ve had in past decades, a million “promises” that won’t be kept and even then, one side will still screech like Hitler is in power despite having lived through his prior impotent term of being shut down on most of his plans, the other will cry about how he didn’t live up to expectations.  The usual rage/disappointment scenario of every president since I started voting in 1992.

I just find it funny that adults over 30 still care about politics and get heated about them and claim “THIS IS LIFE OR DEATH!” when we’ve all seen this same show before, it’s just a tired rerun no matter who is in office since politicians just work for the corporations who line their pockets and give them insider trading tips.  The media exists to keep fools believing nonsense so that nobody talks about how every politician is corrupt, it’s just a distraction to make you think your vote matters when the powers that be win either way.  It’d have been the same if Kamala was elected - prices would go up, promises would be broken, things would still get worse, and people would still cling to politics like team sports jock shit and blame a myriad of things other than that our political system sold out well before we were born and we’re just watching a puppet show at this point.  Everything is about money and power, there are no decent, honest politicians left, we could dump ‘em all in the ocean and watch them drown and we’d be at a net gain afterward.

When we reached a point where congresspeople who make about $140k/year end up worth $25-50 million after a decade or two on their salary and nobody cares, it shows that our political system is long dead, investing emotional concern over it now is just stupid because unless we tear it all down and start new, this is the sham circus we get until we die.  Even AOC is worth 10x what she should be, and her constituents don’t care that she’s just as bad as the rest of them now as long as she puts out an occasional post that they like.  But we’ll still bark about how “our person is better” after being screwed over every time, like it’s ever going to be different.  Precisely why I no longer care about who’s in office, I’m gonna get screwed either way, and I’ve got better things to do than pretend some rich asshole (or, some soon-to-be-rich asshole) actually cares about my struggles, I’m never not amazed by people thinking any politician actually gives a shit about anyone but themselves.  Fuck all of it, I’m gonna hit the park and skate instead, politicians don’t deserve our concern, they all deserve our scorn and ire, nothing more.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

Work hard, set goals, accomplish goals, repeat, and enjoy your life
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on November 30, 2024, 09:07:11 PM
Kash Patel is too fucked a nom for FBI to actually get it, I hope
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: S. on December 01, 2024, 06:48:42 AM
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I expect it’ll be just like Trump’s first term - a lot of talk, a lot of being blocked, not much being done, just like every other president we’ve had in past decades, a million “promises” that won’t be kept and even then, one side will still screech like Hitler is in power despite having lived through his prior impotent term of being shut down on most of his plans, the other will cry about how he didn’t live up to expectations.  The usual rage/disappointment scenario of every president since I started voting in 1992.

I just find it funny that adults over 30 still care about politics and get heated about them and claim “THIS IS LIFE OR DEATH!” when we’ve all seen this same show before, it’s just a tired rerun no matter who is in office since politicians just work for the corporations who line their pockets and give them insider trading tips.  The media exists to keep fools believing nonsense so that nobody talks about how every politician is corrupt, it’s just a distraction to make you think your vote matters when the powers that be win either way.  It’d have been the same if Kamala was elected - prices would go up, promises would be broken, things would still get worse, and people would still cling to politics like team sports jock shit and blame a myriad of things other than that our political system sold out well before we were born and we’re just watching a puppet show at this point.  Everything is about money and power, there are no decent, honest politicians left, we could dump ‘em all in the ocean and watch them drown and we’d be at a net gain afterward.

When we reached a point where congresspeople who make about $140k/year end up worth $25-50 million after a decade or two on their salary and nobody cares, it shows that our political system is long dead, investing emotional concern over it now is just stupid because unless we tear it all down and start new, this is the sham circus we get until we die.  Even AOC is worth 10x what she should be, and her constituents don’t care that she’s just as bad as the rest of them now as long as she puts out an occasional post that they like.  But we’ll still bark about how “our person is better” after being screwed over every time, like it’s ever going to be different.  Precisely why I no longer care about who’s in office, I’m gonna get screwed either way, and I’ve got better things to do than pretend some rich asshole (or, some soon-to-be-rich asshole) actually cares about my struggles, I’m never not amazed by people thinking any politician actually gives a shit about anyone but themselves.  Fuck all of it, I’m gonna hit the park and skate instead, politicians don’t deserve our concern, they all deserve our scorn and ire, nothing more.
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Couldn't have said it better myself.

Work hard, set goals, accomplish goals, repeat, and enjoy your life

You know you can still do that while also caring about politics, right?

I get the cynicism, but you guys do know that it does make a little bit of a difference who is in office? Ever heard of a party platform? There are policies that are effected by your vote even if they are slow and seem marginal at first.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: brycickle on December 01, 2024, 12:36:24 PM
Kash Patel is too fucked a nom for FBI to actually get it, I hope

My dad and I haven't spoken about politics in a very long time. I think we both just realize we're on opposite ends of the spectrum politically, and we don't need to bring that kind of stuff into our personal relationship, which is already strained to certain degrees. I remember being at his house the day of Trump's first inauguration and he made some statement about he he was a class act.

The thing is though, my dad was an FBI agent for over 20 years. Hopefully, if he hadn't already started to change his perspective on Trump, this move will make him take a harder look at what this guy actually stands for.

Probably not though, he still has a closet full of Rush Limbaugh ties.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Unkle Fleak on December 01, 2024, 12:41:31 PM
No now that Putin is US president if any pals need any muscle hmu. I hear we’re actually of law and order again in 2025
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on December 01, 2024, 02:19:40 PM
My dad and I haven't spoken about politics in a very long time. I think we both just realize we're on opposite ends of the spectrum politically, and we don't need to bring that kind of stuff into our personal relationship, which is already strained to certain degrees. I remember being at his house the day of Trump's first inauguration and he made some statement about he he was a class act.

The thing is though, my dad was an FBI agent for over 20 years. Hopefully, if he hadn't already started to change his perspective on Trump, this move will make him take a harder look at what this guy actually stands for.

Probably not though, he still has a closet full of Rush Limbaugh ties.

I wonder how he feels about Kash calling his colleagues the "deep state" and how he feels about conservatives pulling away from the FBI. The FBI is filled with conservative leaning individuals who are highly educated (the bar to get into the FBI is insanely high compared to local law enforcement), I wonder how they feel about the avg conservative abandoning them.

(https://i.ibb.co/dQ7gPg1/Screenshot-2024-12-01-at-3-13-30-PM.png)
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: pugmaster on December 01, 2024, 05:57:13 PM
(https://i.imgflip.com/9c9y6w.jpg)
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: backside_frontside on December 02, 2024, 06:46:14 AM
Republicans are about to defund the FBI lol. I thought they backed the blue??

All you can do is laugh at the absurdity because if you think about it critically it's just too sad that so many Americans are fucking idiots, but what are gonna do??
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on December 02, 2024, 07:27:24 AM
They’ve been silently strangling the IRS for years to the point where they only have the means to go after the lowest level offenders
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on December 04, 2024, 02:02:56 AM
It’s official: Trump received less than 50% of popular vote.  Fuck a mandate
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Turtle Boy on December 04, 2024, 07:32:18 AM
It’s official: Trump received less than 50% of popular vote.  Fuck a mandate
Source?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: EBT card on December 04, 2024, 07:52:19 AM
This is one of my favorite threads lmao

Btc doing good already curious about s and p over the term alot of opportunities I think im all squared away well see at the end

I wonder what's gonna happen next election, Trump Era will be over, what will that be like? Will it still linger around? Back to a sterile disinterest in politics?

I hope the news is more chill this time around not so much panic but we'll see
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on December 04, 2024, 07:58:02 AM
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It’s official: Trump received less than 50% of popular vote.  Fuck a mandate
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Source?

https://www.npr.org/2024/12/03/nx-s1-5213810/2024-presidential-election-popular-vote-trump-kamala-harris
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Unkle Fleak on December 04, 2024, 09:42:18 AM
Blood is in the mail. I’m going to build a mini ramp for when I get home and I don’t wanna just wash the blood off from a hard day of reaping FAKE ASS POSER conservative Christians.


You fucking dead mofos
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Scarecrow Radio on December 04, 2024, 07:04:43 PM
I dare anyone on here to try to interpret what Flea even means by this^
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: ReTired on December 06, 2024, 11:22:20 AM
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I expect it’ll be just like Trump’s first term - a lot of talk, a lot of being blocked, not much being done, just like every other president we’ve had in past decades, a million “promises” that won’t be kept and even then, one side will still screech like Hitler is in power despite having lived through his prior impotent term of being shut down on most of his plans, the other will cry about how he didn’t live up to expectations.  The usual rage/disappointment scenario of every president since I started voting in 1992.

I just find it funny that adults over 30 still care about politics and get heated about them and claim “THIS IS LIFE OR DEATH!” when we’ve all seen this same show before, it’s just a tired rerun no matter who is in office since politicians just work for the corporations who line their pockets and give them insider trading tips.  The media exists to keep fools believing nonsense so that nobody talks about how every politician is corrupt, it’s just a distraction to make you think your vote matters when the powers that be win either way.  It’d have been the same if Kamala was elected - prices would go up, promises would be broken, things would still get worse, and people would still cling to politics like team sports jock shit and blame a myriad of things other than that our political system sold out well before we were born and we’re just watching a puppet show at this point.  Everything is about money and power, there are no decent, honest politicians left, we could dump ‘em all in the ocean and watch them drown and we’d be at a net gain afterward.

When we reached a point where congresspeople who make about $140k/year end up worth $25-50 million after a decade or two on their salary and nobody cares, it shows that our political system is long dead, investing emotional concern over it now is just stupid because unless we tear it all down and start new, this is the sham circus we get until we die.  Even AOC is worth 10x what she should be, and her constituents don’t care that she’s just as bad as the rest of them now as long as she puts out an occasional post that they like.  But we’ll still bark about how “our person is better” after being screwed over every time, like it’s ever going to be different.  Precisely why I no longer care about who’s in office, I’m gonna get screwed either way, and I’ve got better things to do than pretend some rich asshole (or, some soon-to-be-rich asshole) actually cares about my struggles, I’m never not amazed by people thinking any politician actually gives a shit about anyone but themselves.  Fuck all of it, I’m gonna hit the park and skate instead, politicians don’t deserve our concern, they all deserve our scorn and ire, nothing more.
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Couldn't have said it better myself.

Work hard, set goals, accomplish goals, repeat, and enjoy your life
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You know you can still do that while also caring about politics, right?

I get the cynicism, but you guys do know that it does make a little bit of a difference who is in office? Ever heard of a party platform? There are policies that are effected by your vote even if they are slow and seem marginal at first.

My thing is, how many times can you fall in love with a lie and tell yourself “Maybe next time the person I voted for will do what they said they’d do”?  Because I fell for it for over 20 years before I came to grips with the hard truth that nobody who goes into politics at this time in this system is worth voting for.  You honestly have to be a sociopath or true psycho power tripper to want the job, I can’t identify a single politician I’ve seen in ages who seems remotely genuine, and I’ve yet to meet one who doesn’t promise the world while delivering jack shit.

My thought is, if we stopped treating politics like jock team sports life-or-death nonsense as we keep doing, maybe we could stop running/electing idiots and perhaps find the rare needle in a haystack.  But our dumbass red/blue system here is just garbage, the same people running the show from behind the curtain are running things either way for whichever person wins, it’s a joke, because by playing into the game and condoning what we’ve got, we’re ensuring we’ll never have anything better.

Now, does this mean I don’t vote ever?  Nope, but now I only vote against whoever annoys me the most and seems to have the worse platform of the two for what affects me and those I care about, not that I believe in the other person, but it’s the only protest option I have as sitting out means having to stfu for failing to bother.  Does this mean I don’t care about issues?  Of course not, just that my sights are at floor level low for expectation that anyone will do the correct thing to help in any regard.

We could actually make things better if we stopped feeding into this bullshit and allowing ourselves to be divided over personality cult morons who are poor choices to be leading the nation.  Or, we can keep “voting harder” and get the same result, meh, whatever, people gonna people as always because making actual change is too hard and they’d rather suffer in familiarity than take a chance.  We’re all abused spouses of the political system, too afraid to leave it because we don’t know what we’d have.  Except, how could it really be worse than what we have?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Painted Baby on December 07, 2024, 11:32:32 PM
I know it's thirsty but I am really loving this left wing media beef that is brewing between The Young Turks and The Majority Report. Part of the reason why I stopped watching TYT was because of their increasing coverage of stories that were straight outta the right wing media toilet so, to me, it's been a long time coming. The fact that I've heard Sam speak on it twice in two days and say there is no beef has me even more convinced that this is gonna streisand. I think the left is better of without dudes like Cenk and Joe Scarborough serving as mouthpieces anyway.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on December 08, 2024, 11:05:39 AM
I don't vote because
-all politicians are selfish and never care about anyone
-they don't deliver anything
-the build-a-bear group is running things behind a curtain so it doesn't matter who we vote for.
-things would be better if did it differently (not going to say how) and stopped trying to change things through democracy

The idea all politicians are selfish and don't care is absurd. Some are certainly crooks who just want power and attention (Trump and co is the easiest example as the Trump family is going to sell off America to anyone who puts money in their pocket), but there are better and more profitable routes for many of these people. Jared Polis, is a super nepo-baby and was born worth hundreds of millions, he has done a lot of good and I generally like him, but being gov of Colorado is possibly a step down from what he could have done with wealth/power he was born into. The rotating door for the powerful between gov and private business is a problem, but Americans love to think "business people can run the country better" and being a CEO of a Fortune 1000 company probably pays better and offers more power than being gov of most states.

And, yea there are kooks like Mikey Taylor, but a lot of local politicians just want what is best for their community. Few people are getting rich wasting their evenings at city council meetings voting on which pothole to fix.

Yes, democracies that are cynical individualist societies deliver much more slowly than authoritarian communities (China) or strong communal communities that trust the gov to do the right thing (Scandinavia). We have all sorts of individual rights that we exercise to slow down the building of high speed rail and we have regulations that protect individuals that can slow things down as well. A lot to fix here, but your cynicism is part of the problem. And, it takes time for some of the stuff to come online. For example, Biden's admin is investing a ton into America and the money/building is just getting out the door.

The build-a-bear group or illuminutty is not conspiring against you. You live in a capitalist society. We have two votes, one with our actual vote and one with our money. Some people have more votes than you, a lot more. Either start fighting for election finance reform or try to increase your speech through community/group action. special interest groups have power, for example Mothers Against Drunk driving made a huge impact on the country. Individuals with 1 vote and no money aren't super powerful in a democratic capitlst society. BUT that being said, it isn't like we have no power. I've had meetings with the city multiple times to discuss local skateparks. All it took was an email or showing up to a city council meeting. Local influence isn't impossible.

Also, businesses shape a great deal of the world. They have power and will as long as they own the means of production. This is a huge bargaining chip, so of course politicians will listen to the CEOs. In 2011, if we compared Walmart's revenue to the GDP of countries, it would have been in the top 30. 

The democratic capitalist system has lots of flaws. They are all well known and have been said much better elsewhere. But there are things that can be done to alleviate these issues and I'd prefer this system over living under a King/Queen, a dictator, or a full free market where the most powerful business completely runs the show. It can be better and it is better in other places, but I think the problem isn't necessarily that the system isn't responsive, it is that most of us don't do shit. We complain but don't go to city council meetings. We complain but don't do shit to improve things around us. We complain but don't take advantages of our system to get it to do what we want. We complain don't even do the bare minimum to vote.

Opting out and saying, "It's all corrupt" is a bad idea. This will lead to learning what real corruption looks like. I've spent plenty of time in the former-Soviet Union, the corruption in these capitalist dictator states is something most Americans can't imagine. Criticize the government, get beaten and thrown in prison. Get into a car accident with someone powerful, automatically your fault, no matter what. Study hard? Why bother when admission, grades, and degrees can be bought. Shit is hard in America, but we take a lot of power and freedoms for granted. And, being overly cynical will ensure that we lose more and more.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Franksnose76 on December 08, 2024, 06:11:12 PM

I don't vote because
-all politicians are selfish and never care about anyone
-they don't deliver anything
-the build-a-bear group is running things behind a curtain so it doesn't matter who we vote for.
-things would be better if did it differently (not going to say how) and stopped trying to change things through democracy

This has to be the dumbest excuse to waste or not vote in general, I hope you don't have people who have abortions or get deported because you decided not to vote.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: chany penguin on December 08, 2024, 06:21:12 PM
I dare anyone on here to try to interpret what Flea even means by this^
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2dyenc3RwI
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Unkle Fleak on December 11, 2024, 09:58:53 AM
CEOs will drop like flys in 2025. I’m pushing the trend
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: tuesday on December 12, 2024, 06:59:03 AM
Will oligarchs also start falling from windows?
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Post by: S. on December 12, 2024, 11:25:37 AM
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how bout hanging in jail cells?

In a sense CEOs are still workers. The real people running the show are capitalists, the people that don’t have to work: the large stock holders, investors, landlords and owners of companies: Basically the Trumps, the Musks, the Thiels, The Bezos‘ and Zuckerbergs of this world. The people that the CEOs have to answer to.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Sick_McCrank_ on December 12, 2024, 01:38:01 PM
At least capitalism found a way the include part of the mentally ill (sociopaths and psychopaths) into the workforce… as CEOs.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: S. on December 12, 2024, 11:28:23 PM
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In a sense CEOs are still workers. The real people running the show are capitalists, the people that don’t have to work: the large stock holders, investors, landlords and owners of companies: Basically the Trumps, the Musks, the Thiels, The Bezos‘ and Zuckerbergs of this world. The people that the CEOs have to answer to.
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what are you going on about? why are you validating the position of CEOs as workers in a response to a statement made about oligarchs being pushed from balconies/windows as in Russia or Epstein hanging in a jail cell for much the same reason oligarchs in Russia end up splattered on the sidewalk? If you're talking about the health insurance insider trading homeboy sleazEO that was gunned down, you're playing semantics around the word "work" that have nothing to do with "workers" or the "working class." They're not even part of the bourgeoisie.

all of those names you dropped are or were CEOs of their money making enterprises.

Dude, I hate CEOs like the next guy. What I meant to say that the real targets (of criticism and protests, I am no killer) should be the owners and investors. If a CEO does not do what the shareholders or owner of the company wants he‘s replaced by another asshole with a million dollar contract and all the same incentives to maximize profits at the expense of regular employees and (in this case) the insured.

Look, I just hate the hypocrisy of the new rightwing, who love to hate the managers and “the liberal establishment“, while being fanboys of some of the people who literally own them.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Sick_McCrank_ on December 13, 2024, 04:09:07 AM
if i make millions a month as CEO, i turn into an investor very quickly ;)
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Post by: Painted Baby on December 13, 2024, 11:21:15 AM
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In a sense CEOs are still workers. The real people running the show are capitalists, the people that don’t have to work: the large stock holders, investors, landlords and owners of companies: Basically the Trumps, the Musks, the Thiels, The Bezos‘ and Zuckerbergs of this world. The people that the CEOs have to answer to.
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what are you going on about? why are you validating the position of CEOs as workers in a response to a statement made about oligarchs being pushed from balconies/windows as in Russia or Epstein hanging in a jail cell for much the same reason oligarchs in Russia end up splattered on the sidewalk? If you're talking about the health insurance insider trading homeboy sleazEO that was gunned down, you're playing semantics around the word "work" that have nothing to do with "workers" or the "working class." They're not even part of the bourgeoisie.

all of those names you dropped are or were CEOs of their money making enterprises.
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Dude, I hate CEOs like the next guy. What I meant to say that the real targets (of criticism and protests, I am no killer) should be the owners and investors. If a CEO does not do what the shareholders or owner of the company wants he‘s replaced by another asshole with a million dollar contract and all the same incentives to maximize profits at the expense of regular employees and (in this case) the insured.

Look, I just hate the hypocrisy of the new rightwing, who love to hate the managers and “the liberal establishment“, while being fanboys of some of the people who literally own them.
I'm not sure if it's a societal problem or a legislative problem or maybe both but CEOs and investors are functioning exactly as they are allowed to under out current laws. The US has historically had a hands off the biz approach until that posture starts to fuck up our society. That would be the time to change some of the laws around what the Health Care industry can get away with but there has been no appetite. We're all arguing over the scraps that the Affordable Care Act threw us and that's even imperiled again. It's long past time, so much so that we got Punishers running around. Health Care is in the same boat as gun control right now and it's the lobbyists that keep the wheels spinning on the gravel. Until real campaign finance reform catches on, which is like never, or maybe we have some kind of miraculous turnaround in 4 years off the backs of lone gunpersons and there's a real political reset. I don't think we're that lucky.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: S. on December 13, 2024, 01:07:05 PM
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In a sense CEOs are still workers. The real people running the show are capitalists, the people that don’t have to work: the large stock holders, investors, landlords and owners of companies: Basically the Trumps, the Musks, the Thiels, The Bezos‘ and Zuckerbergs of this world. The people that the CEOs have to answer to.
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what are you going on about? why are you validating the position of CEOs as workers in a response to a statement made about oligarchs being pushed from balconies/windows as in Russia or Epstein hanging in a jail cell for much the same reason oligarchs in Russia end up splattered on the sidewalk? If you're talking about the health insurance insider trading homeboy sleazEO that was gunned down, you're playing semantics around the word "work" that have nothing to do with "workers" or the "working class." They're not even part of the bourgeoisie.

all of those names you dropped are or were CEOs of their money making enterprises.
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Dude, I hate CEOs like the next guy. What I meant to say that the real targets (of criticism and protests, I am no killer) should be the owners and investors. If a CEO does not do what the shareholders or owner of the company wants he‘s replaced by another asshole with a million dollar contract and all the same incentives to maximize profits at the expense of regular employees and (in this case) the insured.

Look, I just hate the hypocrisy of the new rightwing, who love to hate the managers and “the liberal establishment“, while being fanboys of some of the people who literally own them.
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I'm not sure if it's a societal problem or a legislative problem or maybe both but CEOs and investors are functioning exactly as they are allowed to under out current laws. The US has historically had a hands off the biz approach until that posture starts to fuck up our society. That would be the time to change some of the laws around what the Health Care industry can get away with but there has been no appetite. We're all arguing over the scraps that the Affordable Care Act threw us and that's even imperiled again. It's long past time, so much so that we got Punishers running around. Health Care is in the same boat as gun control right now and it's the lobbyists that keep the wheels spinning on the gravel. Until real campaign finance reform catches on, which is like never, or maybe we have some kind of miraculous turnaround in 4 years off the backs of lone gunpersons and there's a real political reset. I don't think we're that lucky.

Yes. I agree.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: IusedToSkateMore on December 16, 2024, 02:07:42 PM
Anyone else in the US trying to get their passport renewed sooner than later in the event that agencies close or go to bare bones in the name of d.o.g.e?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on December 16, 2024, 03:09:19 PM
Anyone else in the US trying to get their passport renewed sooner than later in the event that agencies close or go to bare bones in the name of d.o.g.e?

Didn’t even think about that, but maybe worth considering.  Im still wondering what I should do with my mutual funds if they tank the market like they’ve warned might happen
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on December 16, 2024, 04:02:39 PM
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Didn’t even think about that, but maybe worth considering.  Im still wondering what I should do with my mutual funds if they tank the market like they’ve warned might happen
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I'm not really trying to go into "they" territory, and still, EM, PT, and their compatriots hold more than a significant amount of capital in crypto and tech assets. Falling USD and markets boost crypto and tech. That people don't see this is beyond me. I mean it's not at all, but it is worth considering. I can't speak to mutual funds because I don't have any, but, if possible, I don't see using that capital as a means to buy something such as a property as a bad move. that shit, especially anywhere remotely close to where you're located, is only going to continue to sky rocket in price as the power of the greenback drops.

Really, who knows what's going to happen? nobody, right? regarding passports, all bureaucracy can be a hassle, but the potential for it to become even more difficult, for myriad reasons including but not limited to surveillance state activity and destruction of the state dept, is, in my mind, very real.


It’s the left hand not knowing what the right is doing.   Trump wants to cut down on EV cars and remove tax incentives on them (not sure how that effects Tesla) and has also threatened countries that try and reduce their dependency on the dollar which exactly is a benefit/appeal of blockchain currency
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on December 18, 2024, 06:26:32 PM
Trump attack on EVs is likely to suck. 
https://www.wired.com/story/trump-to-block-the-government-and-military-from-buying-evs/

This was known before the election, but there was hope that horrible menace Musk would convince Trump otherwise. Nope, the only pillow talk Trump likes from Musk is about laying off-workers and stories about apartheid S. Africa.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on December 19, 2024, 06:20:08 AM
Trump attack on EVs is likely to suck. 
https://www.wired.com/story/trump-to-block-the-government-and-military-from-buying-evs/

This was known before the election, but there was hope that horrible menace Musk would convince Trump otherwise. Nope, the only pillow talk Trump likes from Musk is about laying off-workers and stories about apartheid S. Africa.

I have a good feeling he’ll make an exception for Teslas.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Jehoshaphat Augustus on December 19, 2024, 11:37:48 AM
It's going to be interesting to witness the new garbage we produce. While we can glean a lot of the components (copper, aluminum, nickel, cobalt) from them, true disposal of EV batteries is highly difficult and truly unrealistic. EV batteries aren't standardized, most of them require different practices to "recycle." The demand for new EV battery components will far outpace the net gain from "recycling." I also worry about the continued, accelerated proliferation of resources from "Shithole Countries" which will require further raping to enable our cross addiction from gas to electric.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Unkle Fleak on December 19, 2024, 12:18:53 PM
If I was doing terrible things to the human race with my inherent power through ceo ism. Plz stop me. I beg you. It’s hard for me to live with the me I got already yo
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: radcunt on December 19, 2024, 12:26:15 PM
Not voting is like standing in front of a moving train and not getting out of the way because you don’t like how fast it’s going or what it’s carrying.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: augustmoon on December 19, 2024, 03:09:33 PM
Should change the title to “changes under President Musk” at this point
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: chany penguin on December 19, 2024, 05:09:54 PM
probably a lot more of this madness
http://www.newsweek.com/white-nationalist-nick-fuentes-assassination-attempt-chicago-home-2003882
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: alien porkchop on December 21, 2024, 11:01:59 PM
corporate tax rate: 21%
source: https://www.irs.gov/publications/p542

defense budget: $842 billion.
source: https://comptroller.defense.gov/Portals/45/Documents/defbudget/FY2024/FY2024_Budget_Request_Overview_Book.pdf

number of a-holes who would rather have a beer with a demagogue than vote for a sensible candidate: too many
source: the reason for this thread

also, if you are worried about elections, we could all spend less energy focusing on the circus genocidal maniacs at the top of the ticket every cycle and do more to support groups like climate cabinet who prioritize spending on low cost but highly critical local elections that are too often overlooked by everyone except the right wing advocacy class millennialist doomsday cult of christo-fascist nationalists in the us.

https://climatecabinet.org/
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on December 22, 2024, 07:25:26 PM
Speak out about Musks illegal activities and you may just ‘commit suicide.’
https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/suchir-balaji-openai-whistleblower-dead-california/
 
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on January 08, 2025, 01:43:16 PM
Seeing Trump's Truth Social posts about the LA fires is sickening.

I know if this catastrophe happened after the 25th of this month, Orange Mussolini wouldn't be sending in help for a state of emergency. At least, he wouldn't send in help until some sort of quid pro quo was met -- like Newsom stepping down first, etc.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on January 08, 2025, 10:09:30 PM
Can the west coast have a referendum to join Canada?

Hell, if we are going to start redrawing borders, let's have the entire West Coast (minus Alaska), New England, and all of the East Coast down to Virginia (upstate Penn can go to America same with parts of central NY). Canada will keep the Northern territories but America can have Alberta and Manitoba. Minnesota and Michigan can be with Canada and we'll flip a coin for Wisconsin.

Fuck everyone who voted for this asshole. Fuck everyone who tried to undo the non-partisan support Biden gave the East Coast with their latest hurricane by saying he controlled the weather (can you imagine citizens of a first world country saying a human controls the weather, we are one bad month away from sacrificing virgins and praying the sun will magically show up the next day). Fuck Trump for making up a non-existent bill to blame California so Exxon can keep polluting and fuck Musk who made is fortune off of Federal and California state subsidies.
https://calmatters.org/environment/wildfires/2025/01/la-fires-donald-trump-fact-check/
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: pointandclick on January 08, 2025, 10:23:50 PM
Can the west coast have a referendum to join Canada?

Hell, if we are going to start redrawing borders, let's have the entire West Coast (minus Alaska), New England, and all of the East Coast down to Virginia (upstate Penn can go to America same with parts of central NY). Canada will keep the Northern territories but America can have Alberta and Manitoba. Minnesota and Michigan can be with Canada and we'll flip a coin for Wisconsin.

Fuck everyone who voted for this asshole. Fuck everyone who tried to undo the non-partisan support Biden gave the East Coast with their latest hurricane by saying he controlled the weather (can you imagine citizens of a first world country saying a human controls the weather, we are one bad month away from sacrificing virgins and praying the sun will magically show up the next day). Fuck Trump for making up a non-existent bill to blame California so Exxon can keep polluting and fuck Musk who made is fortune off of Federal and California state subsidies.
https://calmatters.org/environment/wildfires/2025/01/la-fires-donald-trump-fact-check/
born an raised albertan living in calgary. please dont annex us. we will vote out our insane premier and go back to ndp next round and be slightly better off. its all the rural boomer bumfucks that voted for her. alot of them will die off and hopefully we get a more tolerant future.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on January 09, 2025, 01:28:24 AM
It would hilarious to make the 2nd largest country in the world the 51st state.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: GnarAlarm on January 09, 2025, 08:45:05 AM
I think I'm checking out for a while.
I'll try to stay vaguely up to date on whatever atrocities and injustices are being inflicted on the American people (half of which will be cheering it on), and I'll still vote in every election.
I think for at least the next year or so I'm going to bow out of political conversations, I might even unsubscribe from any political YouTube channels for a while. I just get so angry and it's not helpful. I'm gonna close ranks and focus on my friends, family and local community.
I never signed up for Twitter/X, quit facebook almost a decade ago, never got on Tik Tok.
Instagram is the last social media I occasionally look at but I'm about done with it too.
It's about to be overrun by racist homophobes anyways...
because apparently fact checking tramples on the free speech of liars.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: EdLawndale on January 09, 2025, 09:56:41 AM
Take a break, sure...but we need you as an outspoken force of good.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: BhaktaDon on January 09, 2025, 11:15:48 AM
Hey guys. I dont have time to look through this whole thread.  The question is: do we need to stock up on spitfire, indies, crailtap in case tariffs make us all bbs dwindle powell bones skaters?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on January 09, 2025, 11:26:28 AM
It is interesting to find out what we would really do as the USA is led into chaos and we alienate our long term allies, which will weaken the USA and Europe and benefit the BRICS ascension to global dominance... in turns out most of us would continue to go to work and just be dismayed with our powerlessness to turn the tide. Until there is a feeling of mass support to change things, what else can we do? Most voting Americans chose this nightmare because under the Biden admin our experience of post-pandemic global inflation was lower than most of our peers and because the anti-vax idiots super loud nonsense gained traction.

I think we all need to start thinking about running for local low city and county offices. It doesn't take much to get elected to a local spot and maybe the skate demographic is big enough to get us into local power.

The Trump/Musk reaction to the LA fires is absolutely disgusting. Absolutely atrocious. Just fucking split the country already. I'm done burying the diamond for these assholes who use game theory rationale against their own citizens. Cancel federal flood insurance in all hurricane areas and tell the right to let the free market sort it out.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Jehoshaphat Augustus on January 09, 2025, 12:10:40 PM
Hey guys. I dont have time to look through this whole thread.  The question is: can you lower my rep?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: SupremePizza on January 09, 2025, 01:22:39 PM
I think I'm checking out for a while.
I'll try to stay vaguely up to date on whatever atrocities and injustices are being inflicted on the American people (half of which will be cheering it on), and I'll still vote in every election.

Pretty much how I've felt for the last few months. I refuse to engage with anyone. Just more focused on protecting myself and those around me and making sure to be prepared for the worst. Also getting in practice at the range at least once a month when I have a chance.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: LUGR on January 10, 2025, 04:28:56 PM
Speak out about Musks illegal activities and you may just ‘commit suicide.’
https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/suchir-balaji-openai-whistleblower-dead-california/

Read this as Muska at first glance and was really confused for a split second.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: OlDirtyBalogh on January 11, 2025, 12:03:39 PM
Hey hey,

longtime lurker, first query. I live in Quebec where (along with Ontario) pretty much all deck wood comes from. i've skimmed this thread but nobody seems to have brought up the fact that 25% tariffs on imports (exports from us) is gonna seriously fuck up the industry. 100% Canadian Hard Rock Maple is gonna get a lot more expensive.

Post-pandemic every hard good has become more expensive. This will make every deck a luxury item. Razor tails all around, focussing will be an anachronism.

Weigh in whoever, but I'm particularly interested in what industry folk have to say about this.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Unkle Fleak on January 11, 2025, 12:17:24 PM
Anyone not bending over for the system will be Antifa this year. If you’re not maga you’re Stalin waiting to happen. You gotta be stopped or else they will push the button.

All the flat earthers probably think this coin has a flip side all shiny an new
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on January 11, 2025, 02:21:06 PM
Hey hey,

longtime lurker, first query. I live in Quebec where (along with Ontario) pretty much all deck wood comes from. i've skimmed this thread but nobody seems to have brought up the fact that 25% tariffs on imports (exports from us) is gonna seriously fuck up the industry. 100% Canadian Hard Rock Maple is gonna get a lot more expensive.

Post-pandemic every hard good has become more expensive. This will make every deck a luxury item. Razor tails all around, focussing will be an anachronism.

Weigh in whoever, but I'm particularly interested in what industry folk have to say about this.

These are the threads you’re looking for:
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=r7sjsfeo4ghho18g4a5l4uqgv7&topic=131767.0

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=gbjq2r80809sc9d5dh5jm3n7il&topic=131632.0
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on January 20, 2025, 09:23:32 AM
Let the grift begin:

Today we take our first big leap down the path to regressing towards a society that looks like Russia, but everyone in Russia got a free apartment to soften the blow of living in a corrupt kleptocracy run by an autocratic asshole.   

https://www.axios.com/2025/01/19/donald-trump-crypto-billionaire
(https://i.ibb.co/6gDhTvv/Screenshot-2025-01-20-at-10-21-17-AM.png)
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mongo Lloyd on January 20, 2025, 01:58:20 PM
Sooo…. About that Elon Musk salute….
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Marion Stoked on January 20, 2025, 02:22:03 PM
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Sooo…. About that Elon Musk salute….
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i'm intentionally avoiding any of this shit but that, sir, that is a sieg heil. 2 of em. man

(https://media1.giphy.com/media/Ggt7ZY74ETLE3d2bCj/giphy.gif?cid=6c09b952xq3o737q5oq83owj0rj4ulzykqa70tmpagq5rjyc&ep=v1_internal_gif_by_id&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g)

Good time to sell your teslas.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Painted Baby on January 20, 2025, 03:17:22 PM
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Sooo…. About that Elon Musk salute….
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i'm intentionally avoiding any of this shit but that, sir, that is a sieg heil. 2 of em. man
[close]

(https://media1.giphy.com/media/Ggt7ZY74ETLE3d2bCj/giphy.gif?cid=6c09b952xq3o737q5oq83owj0rj4ulzykqa70tmpagq5rjyc&ep=v1_internal_gif_by_id&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g)

Good time to sell your teslas.
He's just mad all his nerd friends found out he was a boosting ass poser. Telsas are kind of unsellable right now too lol
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: EdLawndale on January 20, 2025, 03:29:59 PM
When can we officially start making fun of Barron?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Painted Baby on January 20, 2025, 03:35:26 PM
When can we officially start making fun of Barron?
He's 18 and has MAGA politics. We're gonna have a Trump 2052 scenario if he came out smarter like his sister.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: pugmaster on January 20, 2025, 03:39:33 PM
I thought "stand back and stand by" was bad enough... the scariest part is that it is only day 1. If you read/watched his "Agenda 47," he's talking about internment camps for the homeless, "re-education" of people in higher education, and all sorts of other ill shit.

I know it is cliche to bring up 1984, but....
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: funeral_tuxedo on January 20, 2025, 05:09:52 PM
I thought "stand back and stand by" was bad enough... the scariest part is that it is only day 1. If you read/watched his "Agenda 47," he's talking about internment camps for the homeless, "re-education" of people in higher education, and all sorts of other ill shit.

I know it is cliche to bring up 1984, but....

If you watch the video of his Hitler salute with audio you can hear the republican audience cheering. I fucking hate this world sometimes.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Colin Robinson on January 20, 2025, 06:26:09 PM
Song accurately describing Elon, send him back to Africa

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UamXXvHW3BQ
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Unkle Fleak on January 20, 2025, 07:29:47 PM
Donald is going to prison. He started the ball rolling when he investigated John Kerry. It’s only a matter of time before the old war bastards get him.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: pugmaster on January 20, 2025, 07:45:40 PM
Donald is going to prison. He started the ball rolling when he investigated John Kerry. It’s only a matter of time before the old war bastards get him.

I wish dude! The GOP have fully cucked with tRump.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: munchbox on January 20, 2025, 08:58:03 PM
the incoming evil and bloodshed will be unprecedented
good luck to you all
it will not be “okay”
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on January 20, 2025, 09:04:30 PM
и, начинается кошмар. Добро пожаловать в США: Фашистское издание.
And the nightmare begins. Welcome to USA: Fascist Edition.



Nearly every single piece of shit that tried to overthrow the American government has been pardoned. Including Oath Keepers founder. Fuck the rule of law. Like Putin, we will pick and choose which laws matter and who they are enforced upon.
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/01/20/us/trump-executive-orders
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/20/us/politics/stewart-rhodes-trump-jan-6-oath-keepers.html

USA to leave the WHO. We have snakeoil salesmen, why would we trust western medical knowledge and work with our peers to promote global health?
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c391j738rm3o

USA to leave Paris Agreement. Pollution isn't a big deal, LA is on fire because of DEI not climate change.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/20/climate/trump-paris-agreement-climate.html

All sanctions on violent Israeli settles now void. Anyone who thought differently was insane.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/on-day-one-trump-rolls-back-biden-sanctions-regime-targeting-violent-israeli-settlers/

Tariffs against Mexico and Canada to possibly start Feb 1st. Does no one remember that Trump negotiated NAFTA 2.0? Why wasn't think shit worked out in his first term? And, fucking Danielle Smith and that Shark Tank guy busy licking Trump's asshole and selling out Canada hoping to exempt their interests. 
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trump-tariffs-canada-first-day-1.7435957

Refugees with appointments abandoned in Mexico. Statue of Liberty to be given back to France as we do not want the tired hungry, poor, or those from shithole countries.
https://apnews.com/article/trump-immigration-cbp-one-border-app-652854b5f2a4e6ccd6ee2ccc729cbb55

End Birthright Citizenship Executive Order. Fuck the constitution and our amendments. President's make up the rules as they go.
https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/topics/birthright-citizenship

Electric vehicle Targets gone and likely we'll see lower standards on protecting us from pollution because "China pollutes a lot." Next up we need to bring back leaded fuel to make all those millennials grow a pair.

Federal Employees get Schedule Fucked. Like Stalin, we aren't betting on the smart, but the loyal. It worked out well for him and the USSR was off to a great start.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jan/20/trump-executive-order-schedule-f
https://www.marxists.org/archive/trotsky/1936/revbet/

"We are in an energy crisis!" we need to pollute pristine nature faster, BUT the crisis isn't big enough to invest in wind powered energy. Does no one fucking remember when Trump asked Saudi Arabia to STOP PUMPING OIL TO RAISE PRICES?
https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/trump-suspends-offshore-wind-leasing-pending-review-2025-01-21/
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/02/trump-calls-on-russia-and-saudi-arabia-to-cut-oil-production-161368

Only two genders, despite the fact that people are born intersex and there is an actual physical spectrum on sex, there are only two genders and it can't be changed  ::)
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/trump-gender-executive-order-1.7436438

TikTok is actually pretty cool, because I have lots of followers there. Despite the law being passed by congress and signed by the president, Trump is making the Chinese company TikTok above the law because the CEO sucks his dick at night.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/antoniopequenoiv/2025/01/20/tiktok-ban-live-updates-trump-halts-ban-for-75-days-after-ceo-attends-inauguration/

Symbolic Things
Gulf of Mexico is no more.
Mt. Denali is no more.


I remember interviewing for a government job in Siberia. The process was fucking awful. The ideas held by the guy in charge were fucking awful. And, even if I got the job, it would have been fucking awful because the manager could adjust my pay by 50% each month depending on how he felt in the moment. I feel that is where we are headed.

My favorite line of this entire movie is the mayor responding to the lawyer who attempts to use the law as it is written to protect the main character in the movie, "You don't have any rights, you never had any rights, and you never will have any rights." The mayor makes it clear, in Russia the law is not power, but status and ruthlessness is power. Don't be thankful for what you have, but be thankful for what we allow you to have in this moment, because it can be taken away.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tj0SMgg9Jqg
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Newphone on January 20, 2025, 09:05:18 PM
Yeah I spent the day avoiding this shitshow, but catching up now, 1500 J6 pardons, withdrawing from the WHO, Elon with the nazi salute, gulf of America….

Feels like I’m being trolled but as the song says, “this is America”

Feels like as good a time as any to worry about my life, my kids and those I care about and let the things out of my control play out. 

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Unkle Fleak on January 20, 2025, 10:40:38 PM
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Donald is going to prison. He started the ball rolling when he investigated John Kerry. It’s only a matter of time before the old war bastards get him.
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I wish dude! The GOP have fully cucked with tRump.

There’s many a slip between a cup and a lip. And that’s not the gop.  The more they grind the people the worse shit will get for them. The way Biden protected his family tells all about the future.
Trump all he cares about is beating the system and getting payback.

Watch. They’re going to get in such a bad position they’re gonna have to start giving us everything we want.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: RoaryMcTwang on January 21, 2025, 03:05:57 AM
Insane clown president
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Billy Bitchcakes on January 21, 2025, 04:11:37 AM
From the party of free speech to state owned media real quick. It's fucking wild watching all this happen in real time. Can't imagine what it's like living over there right now

(https://ukskateforum.co.uk/uploads/default/original/3X/9/f/9f1102cf85d534ea1831b6393e00f68b190c808a.jpeg)




(https://ukskateforum.co.uk/uploads/default/original/3X/6/7/6711ac6e1dc5b350c76eab91317d324199b42451.png)
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Coastal Fever on January 21, 2025, 04:56:23 AM
Friendly reminder that “stress addiction” is a real thing, it’s widespread and rarely talked about, with persistent harmful side effects such as anxiety, depression, anger issues, high blood pressure, strain on interpersonal relationships, etc etc.

Be mindful of that when doom scrolling and getting worked up over things you have no control over.  Look at your social media usage and get rid of anything that doesn’t actually benefit you.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Fire Air Walk with Me on January 21, 2025, 05:27:16 AM
Friendly reminder that “stress addiction” is a real thing, it’s widespread and rarely talked about, with persistent harmful side effects such as anxiety, depression, anger issues, high blood pressure, strain on interpersonal relationships, etc etc.

Be mindful of that when doom scrolling and getting worked up over things you have no control over.  Look at your social media usage and get rid of anything that doesn’t actually benefit you.

Luckily I've got 100 pages of Loose Pants threads to catch up on. But yea tried to tune out as much as I can but uhhh yea -Not Great Bob
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Billy Bitchcakes on January 21, 2025, 06:00:45 AM
Friendly reminder that “stress addiction” is a real thing, it’s widespread and rarely talked about, with persistent harmful side effects such as anxiety, depression, anger issues, high blood pressure, strain on interpersonal relationships, etc etc.

Be mindful of that when doom scrolling and getting worked up over things you have no control over.  Look at your social media usage and get rid of anything that doesn’t actually benefit you.

Damn you just listed pretty much every problem I've been having consistently recently. I'm also a Reddit addict. I think you might be on to something
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Coastal Fever on January 21, 2025, 06:17:55 AM
Yeah same.  The Popular page is full of rage bait, and my Home page kept skewing further that way because I couldn’t help myself from engaging.  So I created a Custom Feed for myself that’s mostly just sneakers, cute animals and music related stuff lol. 
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Franksnose76 on January 21, 2025, 07:20:08 AM
Fuck this country and the powers that be. Watched the inauguration and wanted to vomit from the vile filth that came from his sewer of a mouth, if you see a Nazi or adjacent bust them in the mouth!! Fuck this place!!!!! Fuck it!!!!! I am not okay with letting this continue.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Cuban_Lynx on January 21, 2025, 07:49:05 AM
I thought "stand back and stand by" was bad enough... the scariest part is that it is only day 1. If you read/watched his "Agenda 47," he's talking about internment camps for the homeless, "re-education" of people in higher education, and all sorts of other ill shit.

I know it is cliche to bring up 1984, but....
I'm a VA Federal psychologist and I woke up to an 8:00am meeting about all of our continuing education changing and not being able to use the language "DEI" in any of our meetings or trainings.

I also work for a state university. They were coming down hard on critical race theory during the last administration, but so far it's just threats.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: mj23 on January 21, 2025, 09:34:55 AM
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Sooo…. About that Elon Musk salute….
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i'm intentionally avoiding any of this shit but that, sir, that is a sieg heil. 2 of em. man
[close]

Not that it matters but if you watch it with audio he says right after “my heart goes out to you” and I kinda think that’s what his incredibly awkward body was trying to gesture - but it’s like someone who accidentally drops the n bomb in public does so bc they’re comfortable doing it in private and this salute is like that
lmao

imagine making excuses for such a loser
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Fire Air Walk with Me on January 21, 2025, 09:51:00 AM
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Sooo…. About that Elon Musk salute….
[close]

i'm intentionally avoiding any of this shit but that, sir, that is a sieg heil. 2 of em. man
[close]

Not that it matters but if you watch it with audio he says right after “my heart goes out to you” and I kinda think that’s what his incredibly awkward body was trying to gesture - but it’s like someone who accidentally drops the n bomb in public does so bc they’re comfortable doing it in private and this salute is like that
[close]
lmao

imagine making excuses for such a loser

an accidental bootlicking
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: 123 on January 21, 2025, 10:10:42 AM
Fuck this country and the powers that be. Watched the inauguration and wanted to vomit from the vile filth that came from his sewer of a mouth, if you see a Nazi or adjacent bust them in the mouth!! Fuck this place!!!!! Fuck it!!!!! I am not okay with letting this continue.

You have to log out first #theresistance
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: h00man on January 21, 2025, 11:44:20 AM
Remember, if you voted Trump, fuck you.

If you protest voted or sat out of this election year because "Harris is a war monger", fuck you even more.

Fuck. YOU.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: mj23 on January 21, 2025, 11:52:44 AM
Remember, if you voted Trump, fuck you.

If you protest voted or sat out of this election year because "Harris is a war monger", fuck you even more.

Fuck. YOU.
Personally I am less mad at people who sat out than I am at the pathetic Democrat loyalists who spent years trying to gaslight us all into thinking Biden wasn't a walking corpse, then completely skipped having a primary and tried to shove Harris down our throats. With that little interest in winning they might as well be Republicans.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Cuban_Lynx on January 21, 2025, 12:21:34 PM
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Remember, if you voted Trump, fuck you.

If you protest voted or sat out of this election year because "Harris is a war monger", fuck you even more.

Fuck. YOU.
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Personally I am less mad at people who sat out than I am at the pathetic Democrat loyalists who spent years trying to gaslight us all into thinking Biden wasn't a walking corpse, then completely skipped having a primary and tried to shove Harris down our throats. With that little interest in winning they might as well be Republicans.
I was shocked he won the primaries in 2020. His brain was fried back then, but it was over after that debate. They kept telling us he was sharp as a tack behind the scenes, but that's not how dementia works.

Harris was polling at 3% in 2020 behind Biden, Harris, Bernie, Bloomberg, and basically tied for 5th place with Buttigieg. She'd been mostly silent for 4 years. Selecting her as the frontrunner against the biggest threat to our democracy just a few months before the election is unforgivable. The DNC most definitely deserves a fuck you.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: GnarAlarm on January 21, 2025, 01:15:41 PM
Trump gave a heartfelt thank you to the black and hispanic voters who supported him, and literally the next thing he talked about was deploying troops to the border and wholesale deportation of hispanic immigrants.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Gene_Harrogate on January 21, 2025, 02:06:45 PM
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Remember, if you voted Trump, fuck you.

If you protest voted or sat out of this election year because "Harris is a war monger", fuck you even more.

Fuck. YOU.
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Personally I am less mad at people who sat out than I am at the pathetic Democrat loyalists who spent years trying to gaslight us all into thinking Biden wasn't a walking corpse, then completely skipped having a primary and tried to shove Harris down our throats. With that little interest in winning they might as well be Republicans.
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I was shocked he won the primaries in 2020. His brain was fried back then, but it was over after that debate. They kept telling us he was sharp as a tack behind the scenes, but that's not how dementia works.

Harris was polling at 3% in 2020 behind Biden, Harris, Bernie, Bloomberg, and basically tied for 5th place with Buttigieg. She'd been mostly silent for 4 years. Selecting her as the frontrunner against the biggest threat to our democracy just a few months before the election is unforgivable. The DNC most definitely deserves a fuck you.

The democrats would literally rather lose than put forward a progressive, or even barely left of center candidate, at the risk losing their corporate donors.  The working class has no representation in the US anymore, and I don't see that changing anytime soon.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Fire Air Walk with Me on January 21, 2025, 02:24:46 PM
We've got captured courts, along with executive and legislative branch hostage to the donor class. billionaire owned media and social media to control the message plus a public ready to put their collective head in the sand or drink propaganda.

Imo - the only way positive change is going to come thru disaster(economic, environmental, center cannot hold shit) than any change thru the current system's republicrats.

And then just like how big tech used to pretend to be dems and are now pretending to be repubs, they will pivot to whatever comes next. Yea this is a bummer alrite.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Franksnose76 on January 21, 2025, 02:56:41 PM
Remember, if you voted Trump, fuck you.

If you protest voted or sat out of this election year because "Harris is a war monger", fuck you even more.

Fuck. YOU.
This right here

 I'd like to add if you voted for that orange turd or excuse that sneaky Nazi bootlicker musk for his "salute" then FUCK YOU!!!

Nazis or fascism doesn't deserve a place here, at least we know who these kooks are and point em out.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: RoaryMcTwang on January 21, 2025, 05:30:08 PM


Yeah same.  The Popular page is full of rage bait, and my Home page kept skewing further that way because I couldn’t help myself from engaging.  So I created a Custom Feed for myself that’s mostly just sneakers, cute animals and music related stuff lol.

I strongly recommend channeling all your energy into the teas thread.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on January 21, 2025, 08:11:31 PM
The Dems consistently blow it. However, as much as I want a AOC or Bernie running the show, in order for that to work the left needs to message better and we need to confront the reality that America is a conservative overly religious nation.

This country seems to be consumed by a hegemonic belief that business (and Jesus) is the answer and businessmen are the real success stories in society. It isn't the great scientist, writer, doctor, or lawyer that rises to the top of their field, but the man who can steal as much money as possible that becomes our national hero.

Also, independents are gaining more and more in our political landscape. I worry most independents lean libertarian, which quickly leads to leaning fascist. They seem to quickly turn from promoting freedom for everyone to justifying the inequalities in the current system and refusing to believe anything but giving more power to the police and businesses is the answer.

(https://i.ibb.co/GFXBPfq/Screenshot-2025-01-21-at-9-05-12-PM.png)
https://news.gallup.com/poll/655157/gop-holds-edge-party-affiliation-third-straight-year.aspx
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on January 21, 2025, 08:42:58 PM
It is fucking over. In Trump's America there is no power to begotten from the law, but the law will be exercised by those in power.

Trump goes from all drug dealers deserve the death penalty
https://www.npr.org/2023/05/10/1152847242/trump-campaign-execute-drug-dealers-smugglers-traffickers-death-row

to

"I just called the mother of Ross William Ulbricht to let her know that in honor of her and the Libertarian Movement, which supported me so strongly, it was my pleasure to have just signed a full and unconditional pardon of her son, Ross."
https://www.npr.org/2025/01/21/nx-s1-5270051/trump-pardons-dark-web-marketplace-creator-ross-ulbricht



I'm all for the legalization and regulation of drugs, but not for pardoning the few drug dealers who can benefit the president, while maintaining aggressive anti-drug laws.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Big Skatefase on January 21, 2025, 08:53:32 PM
It's really not that "The left" has a messaging problem. It's that "The Left" does not have a political party where the leadership represent actual left wing politics. America is functionally a two-party system and one party is far-right while the other is center-right.

Progressive politics when polled are very popular, it's just that the DNC leadership not only fundamentally opposes them, but will actively conspire against the progressive movement and progressive politicians because of their loyalty to their campaign donors.

(https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5aa9be92f8370a24714de593/0b83008a-044e-401a-ab95-c685e706423e/progressive_issues_pooled_target_7_24_x3_bernie_battleground_07_2024_vista_6nv_wi_ga__controls_min_joints_x2_ei_joints_0083096_summary_Voters_Support_Progressiv_5820.png)
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Chavo on January 21, 2025, 09:04:56 PM
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I thought "stand back and stand by" was bad enough... the scariest part is that it is only day 1. If you read/watched his "Agenda 47," he's talking about internment camps for the homeless, "re-education" of people in higher education, and all sorts of other ill shit.

I know it is cliche to bring up 1984, but....
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I'm a VA Federal psychologist and I woke up to an 8:00am meeting about all of our continuing education changing and not being able to use the language "DEI" in any of our meetings or trainings.

I also work for a state university. They were coming down hard on critical race theory during the last administration, but so far it's just threats.

I wonder if his executive order against DEI would affect state agencies. Since affirmative action ended years ago in California (except for disability or veteran status in government jobs), I don't know if this would even make any difference. He does want to target disabled people, though.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: yghartsyrt on January 21, 2025, 11:55:17 PM
It is fucking over. In Trump's America there is no power to begotten from the law, but the law will be exercised by those in power.

Trump goes from all drug dealers deserve the death penalty
https://www.npr.org/2023/05/10/1152847242/trump-campaign-execute-drug-dealers-smugglers-traffickers-death-row

to

"I just called the mother of Ross William Ulbricht to let her know that in honor of her and the Libertarian Movement, which supported me so strongly, it was my pleasure to have just signed a full and unconditional pardon of her son, Ross."
https://www.npr.org/2025/01/21/nx-s1-5270051/trump-pardons-dark-web-marketplace-creator-ross-ulbricht



I'm all for the legalization and regulation of drugs, but not for pardoning the few drug dealers who can benefit the president, while maintaining aggressive anti-drug laws.


But isn’t that dude some kind of hero in the crypto, libertarian world? In the regards it makes sense he pardons him.
Plus, as if trump ever was concerned about drug dealers. Drug dealers is a Chiffre for POC for and his kind.
Brown large scale drug dealers = terrorists
White large scale drug dealers = beacons of liberty

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: botefdunn on January 22, 2025, 06:02:36 AM
this was new to me.


(https://i0.wp.com/newsverge.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/Elon-Musk.jpg)
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Cuban_Lynx on January 22, 2025, 07:47:23 AM
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I thought "stand back and stand by" was bad enough... the scariest part is that it is only day 1. If you read/watched his "Agenda 47," he's talking about internment camps for the homeless, "re-education" of people in higher education, and all sorts of other ill shit.

I know it is cliche to bring up 1984, but....
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I'm a VA Federal psychologist and I woke up to an 8:00am meeting about all of our continuing education changing and not being able to use the language "DEI" in any of our meetings or trainings.

I also work for a state university. They were coming down hard on critical race theory during the last administration, but so far it's just threats.
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I wonder if his executive order against DEI would affect state agencies. Since affirmative action ended years ago in California (except for disability or veteran status in government jobs), I don't know if this would even make any difference. He does want to target disabled people, though.

My understanding is states can still do whatever they want. There have been threats of withholding NIH funding, but there's just no way any federal agency is going to be able to enforce what is done at the campus level. I can see courses being re-named and some silly symbolic stuff, but that's all I've heard from the university. I remember 4 years of idle threats from 2016-2020, but nothing ever happened.

I was in a few more VA meetings yesterday about changes with mental health services for trans/non-binary veterans. I have a couple colleagues who are trans veterans and I feel for them. Local leadership has said they're working on workarounds. A few of my co-workers had to officially change their job title back in November to ensure they don't get terminated. I suspect I'll be seeing a lot of people getting discharged from the military UHC due to his ban on trans servicemembers.

Just got an email saying no DEI training, no DEI committees, and no pronouns in email blocks.

Oh, and I'm in a remote position so I just got notification I might be terminated after 15 years of service because Elon Musk is an asshole.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Too Frank To Fred on January 22, 2025, 09:18:55 AM
Remember, if you voted Trump, fuck you.

If you protest voted or sat out of this election year because "Harris is a war monger", fuck you even more.

Fuck. YOU.

That's a problematic take.
I voted for Harris. Held my nose. But I have no problem with people who protest voted/ abstained against genocide. None whatsoever.

Don't blame Trump's incoming insanity on the anti-war vote. Blame it on the maniacs behind him.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Alan on January 22, 2025, 09:25:36 AM
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I thought "stand back and stand by" was bad enough... the scariest part is that it is only day 1. If you read/watched his "Agenda 47," he's talking about internment camps for the homeless, "re-education" of people in higher education, and all sorts of other ill shit.

I know it is cliche to bring up 1984, but....
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I'm a VA Federal psychologist and I woke up to an 8:00am meeting about all of our continuing education changing and not being able to use the language "DEI" in any of our meetings or trainings.

I also work for a state university. They were coming down hard on critical race theory during the last administration, but so far it's just threats.
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I wonder if his executive order against DEI would affect state agencies. Since affirmative action ended years ago in California (except for disability or veteran status in government jobs), I don't know if this would even make any difference. He does want to target disabled people, though.
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My understanding is states can still do whatever they want. There have been threats of withholding NIH funding, but there's just no way any federal agency is going to be able to enforce what is done at the campus level. I can see courses being re-named and some silly symbolic stuff, but that's all I've heard from the university. I remember 4 years of idle threats from 2016-2020, but nothing ever happened.


A lot of states and universities have already rolled over this past year or so.

https://www.highereddive.com/news/dei-eliminations-cuts-offices-colleges-texas-florida-kentucky-alabama/727414/
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: IusedToSkateMore on January 22, 2025, 09:26:18 AM
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Remember, if you voted Trump, fuck you.

If you protest voted or sat out of this election year because "Harris is a war monger", fuck you even more.

Fuck. YOU.
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That's a problematic take.
I voted for Harris. Held my nose. But I have no problem with people who protest voted/ abstained against genocide. None whatsoever.

Don't blame Trump's incoming insanity on the anti-war vote. Blame it on the maniacs behind him.

We exchanged ideas over the undecided vote back during primary season and your expression helped me think and explore a bit more deeply. Good work and thanks.

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: botefdunn on January 22, 2025, 11:06:26 AM
@hooman I don't actually fall into one of the categories you described, but I did not vote, because I do not make a practice of voting. Not saying I never will, but I never have. It isn't a protest, and it isn't out of apathy, and it isn't because I don't believe that some candidates are objectively better or worse than others. I follow politics and don't shy away from taking positions, voicing support or opposition. I feel strongly that politics are always the reflection of localized views and attitudes, regardless of their eventual reach or scope. As such, the energy I put into what could be called civic duty or public engagement is expended locally, through participation in communities I believe in, and through trying to live in a way that reflects my values as directly as possible.  I've been called naive and worse, but to me it's naive to see people pulling their hair out and still getting up everyday and contributing wholeheartedly to a system that can be lead by a Donald Trump. I don't see him as an aberration of the system, he's just a much clearer reminder than usual that our society is founded on principles of control, not ethics. A lot of people do work within the system in an ethical way, and I respect that, but they aren't the guiding principle and never will be.  I don't really do that much for other people, lots of people I have met do more, but I feel pretty okay about my general disposition towards my fellow humans and wouldn't feel any better in that regard if I participated in the electoral process. Nor do I believe that my participating in it would improve my quality of life or anyone else's to the extent that volunteering and living frugally do. Voting is a luxury, so is having all your material needs met and still  feeling that life is really bad, and I don't subscribe to either of these thing. Sorry for the ramble, felt like responding.

I figure the day someone I know asks me to vote for them, is the day I will vote. Till then, I'm not investing my political energy in the idea of delegated, corporate or administrative responsability.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Cuban_Lynx on January 22, 2025, 11:22:21 AM
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I thought "stand back and stand by" was bad enough... the scariest part is that it is only day 1. If you read/watched his "Agenda 47," he's talking about internment camps for the homeless, "re-education" of people in higher education, and all sorts of other ill shit.

I know it is cliche to bring up 1984, but....
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I'm a VA Federal psychologist and I woke up to an 8:00am meeting about all of our continuing education changing and not being able to use the language "DEI" in any of our meetings or trainings.

I also work for a state university. They were coming down hard on critical race theory during the last administration, but so far it's just threats.
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I wonder if his executive order against DEI would affect state agencies. Since affirmative action ended years ago in California (except for disability or veteran status in government jobs), I don't know if this would even make any difference. He does want to target disabled people, though.
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My understanding is states can still do whatever they want. There have been threats of withholding NIH funding, but there's just no way any federal agency is going to be able to enforce what is done at the campus level. I can see courses being re-named and some silly symbolic stuff, but that's all I've heard from the university. I remember 4 years of idle threats from 2016-2020, but nothing ever happened.

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A lot of states and universities have already rolled over this past year or so.

https://www.highereddive.com/news/dei-eliminations-cuts-offices-colleges-texas-florida-kentucky-alabama/727414/
My university is in deep blue territory, so I think they'll find workarounds.

I've been in back-to-back meetings at my federal position all day and they're taking a hard line on this. We are required to stop all groups, mental health service, trainings, committees, advocacy, etc for anything remotely related to DEI. We had workarounds in 2016-2020, but they're coming down hard on any resistance.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Sedition on January 22, 2025, 11:52:44 AM
I've got a little extra money at the moment, and am considering getting a few decks in case this tariff thing explodes. Anyone else done this?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: myfeetarekillingme on January 22, 2025, 11:56:56 AM
I've got a little extra money at the moment, and am considering getting a few decks in case this tariff thing explodes. Anyone else done this?

I thought about it but I refuse to panic buy things

Maybe a silver lining if deck prices go way up is we’ll appreciate our shit more and skate it until it’s fully done instead of letting gear madness and over consumption go unchecked
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Alan on January 22, 2025, 12:03:29 PM
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I thought "stand back and stand by" was bad enough... the scariest part is that it is only day 1. If you read/watched his "Agenda 47," he's talking about internment camps for the homeless, "re-education" of people in higher education, and all sorts of other ill shit.

I know it is cliche to bring up 1984, but....
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I'm a VA Federal psychologist and I woke up to an 8:00am meeting about all of our continuing education changing and not being able to use the language "DEI" in any of our meetings or trainings.

I also work for a state university. They were coming down hard on critical race theory during the last administration, but so far it's just threats.
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I wonder if his executive order against DEI would affect state agencies. Since affirmative action ended years ago in California (except for disability or veteran status in government jobs), I don't know if this would even make any difference. He does want to target disabled people, though.
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My understanding is states can still do whatever they want. There have been threats of withholding NIH funding, but there's just no way any federal agency is going to be able to enforce what is done at the campus level. I can see courses being re-named and some silly symbolic stuff, but that's all I've heard from the university. I remember 4 years of idle threats from 2016-2020, but nothing ever happened.

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A lot of states and universities have already rolled over this past year or so.

https://www.highereddive.com/news/dei-eliminations-cuts-offices-colleges-texas-florida-kentucky-alabama/727414/
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My university is in deep blue territory, so I think they'll find workarounds.

I've been in back-to-back meetings at my federal position all day and they're taking a hard line on this. We are required to stop all groups, mental health service, trainings, committees, advocacy, etc for anything remotely related to DEI. We had workarounds in 2016-2020, but they're coming down hard on any resistance.

Fingers crossed for you!
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: EdLawndale on January 22, 2025, 12:09:59 PM
Yeah, I think this a very different situation than 2016-2020 in terms of intent and follow-through by the regime in charge.

Very saddened we've found ourselves in this place, however we got here.

If we're lucky, we'll see similar in-fighting amongst Trump and his cabinet like the last term, ppl getting fired and talking shit in the media, etc. -- which would be good because it's a sign the administration is not getting enough momentum to move their agenda forward -- but it's not guaranteed.

I fear, this time, Trump is going to take a backseat, per se, and let the awful ppl he has appointed and will appoint (who will likely be as bad as him or worse) take the wheel.  Project 2025 and so forth. He has won the election, that's all he really needed to do...
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: GnarAlarm on January 22, 2025, 12:23:02 PM
A while back, i threw out a question along the lines of “other than vote, what do you do in support of your community, human rights, social justice, etc” and but a few people, including those who get on the high horse about voting or not voting for Harris, declined to share their experiences or vision regarding the exercise of such outside the voting booth.

Well, I'll field this as a "please vote Harris" person.
I always vote in every federal and local election no matter how small. 
I attend basically every protest or march in my city that aligns with my beliefs, and the occasional counter-protest (which, debatable how much difference those make but I get out of the house and do it).
A big personal one for me is every time there's a local election I read up on every judge up for election/re-election and blast everyone I know via text or email which judges are scumbags and which are worth re-electing. Same with Sheriff.
Shocking how many people leave those blank or pick randomly.
Most recently I volunteered for the Wick Thomas campaign in my district, Missouri's first transgender state legislator.
(They won!)
I've also attended several town halls and engagement events related to new skate parks in my city...

Having said all that, I don't condemn anyone who is less politically active.
To me, getting out and voting is the most important thing, nobody has to agree with me and I know many don't.
Any wars or genocides happening right now definitely aren't going to get any better with Trump in office, but a whole lot of other things are going to get a whole, whole, whole lot worse, probably including the wars and genocides.
If that was worth it for some people, that's their call and here we are. It wasn't worth it to me.

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: S. on January 22, 2025, 12:56:03 PM
@hooman I don't actually fall into one of the categories you described, but I did not vote, because I do not make a practice of voting. Not saying I never will, but I never have. It isn't a protest, and it isn't out of apathy, and it isn't because I don't believe that some candidates are objectively better or worse than others. I follow politics and don't shy away from taking positions, voicing support or opposition. I feel strongly that politics are always the reflection of localized views and attitudes, regardless of their eventual reach or scope. As such, the energy I put into what could be called civic duty or public engagement is expended locally, through participation in communities I believe in, and through trying to live in a way that reflects my values as directly as possible.  I've been called naive and worse, but to me it's naive to see people pulling their hair out and still getting up everyday and contributing wholeheartedly to a system that can be lead by a Donald Trump. I don't see him as an aberration of the system, he's just a much clearer reminder than usual that our society is founded on principles of control, not ethics. A lot of people do work within the system in an ethical way, and I respect that, but they aren't the guiding principle and never will be.  I don't really do that much for other people, lots of people I have met do more, but I feel pretty okay about my general disposition towards my fellow humans and wouldn't feel any better in that regard if I participated in the electoral process. Nor do I believe that my participating in it would improve my quality of life or anyone else's to the extent that volunteering and living frugally do. Voting is a luxury, so is having all your material needs met and still  feeling that life is really bad, and I don't subscribe to either of these thing. Sorry for the ramble, felt like responding.

I figure the day someone I know asks me to vote for them, is the day I will vote. Till then, I'm not investing my political energy in the idea of delegated, corporate or administrative responsability.


I understand and I share all your ideas but one. Being a decent person and involved in your community is way more important than one individual vote. I agree. But why not also vote? How do you see a contradiction between voting and being locally active is beyond me. Plus: You don’t just vote for a person, but also for a party platform. Why not consider the policies and vote for what seems more reasonable to you?


Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mr. Kamikazi on January 22, 2025, 12:59:28 PM
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A while back, i threw out a question along the lines of “other than vote, what do you do in support of your community, human rights, social justice, etc” and but a few people, including those who get on the high horse about voting or not voting for Harris, declined to share their experiences or vision regarding the exercise of such outside the voting booth.
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Well, I'll field this as a "please vote Harris" person.
I always vote in every federal and local election no matter how small. 
I attend basically every protest or march in my city that aligns with my beliefs, and the occasional counter-protest (which, debatable how much difference those make but I get out of the house and do it).
A big personal one for me is every time there's a local election I read up on every judge up for election/re-election and blast everyone I know via text or email which judges are scumbags and which are worth re-electing. Same with Sheriff.
Shocking how many people leave those blank or pick randomly.
Most recently I volunteered for the Wick Thomas campaign in my district, Missouri's first transgender state legislator.
(They won!)
I've also attended several town halls and engagement events related to new skate parks in my city...

Having said all that, I don't condemn anyone who is less politically active.
To me, getting out and voting is the most important thing, nobody has to agree with me and I know many don't.
Any wars or genocides happening right now definitely aren't going to get any better with Trump in office, but a whole lot of other things are going to get a whole, whole, whole lot worse, probably including the wars and genocides.
If that was worth it for some people, that's their call and here we are. It wasn't worth it to me.


I truly commend you.

My wife and myself are social workers, along with the majority of my colleagues and people I hold dear in my life. We definitely stay active and try to engage in politically proactive stances and get involved when we can.

It undoubtedly is going to get worse, and my heart breaks for the majority of my clients who are marginalized kiddos, many of which belong to the LBGQT+ population & families that already have the odds stacked against them. More so, even those that come to see me who are stable in many areas of their life, but battle mental health will probably be affected by this. Simply put, continuing to voice the truth and stand up for those in any shape or form, no matter how small will always ties detriment and hatred to be halted, all of which I think is a win. A small win, nonetheless, but important.

Tomorrow at my school, a Trump supporter & staunch election denier who is currently a state representative will be in the building. I plan on being respectful, but absolutely refusing to engage with this individual and giving them any of my time. I also plan on letting those around me know this man’s views so they can be presented with an opportunity to make an informed choice. It’s really frightening, especially because our campus specifically works with anyone identifying as non-binary due to our diverse policies and just our skill set. I do not say that in any light to make us look like we are the reason they are successful, but I truly can say that we try to be a safe harbor for these kiddos.


Regardless, let’s all keep up the good fight and no matter how small, let people know they need to fix their hearts.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on January 22, 2025, 02:44:12 PM
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"I just called the mother of Ross William Ulbricht to let her know that in honor of her and the Libertarian Movement, which supported me so strongly, it was my pleasure to have just signed a full and unconditional pardon of her son, Ross."
https://www.npr.org/2025/01/21/nx-s1-5270051/trump-pardons-dark-web-marketplace-creator-ross-ulbricht
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But isn’t that dude some kind of hero in the crypto, libertarian world? In the regards it makes sense he pardons him.

Pardons are fundamentally at odds with how our country is supposed to be run and were a weird thing for the founders to give presidents, but we can make a case for them when they are done as societal perceptions of crime changes or when people are victims of injustice, but pardons for votes crosses an obviously line. "If everyone in a militia votes for me, I'll pardon Tim McVeigh for OKCity Bombing" is obviously wrong and anti-American. We have laws against buying votes and this seems very similar.

On top of going to city council meetings and meeting with city employees on occasion, I'll donate to a few causes I care about, and I read legitimate news sources and filter that through all the books I had to read to collect my silly degrees. But, voting remains important to me, because 1) it plays a small part in deciding who is in charge 2) who is in charge can affect me dramatically. Returning to the days where only a few people had a voice in society does not strike me as a step forward.

@Cuban_Lynx I'm sorry you and the people you work with have to deal with this nonsense. It is amazing how much vitriol the GOP has for women and trans people. I'm pretty certain trans individuals make up .4% of population, it seems that the fear and hatred is overblown. Also, I'm curious to see how everyone in your institution with write emails without the use of any pronouns.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OP9-kOCSqY8
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on January 22, 2025, 06:20:54 PM
A while back, i threw out a question along the lines of “other than vote, what do you do in support of your community, human rights, social justice, etc” and but a few people, including those who get on the high horse about voting or not voting for Harris, declined to share their experiences or vision regarding the exercise of such outside the voting booth.

As a go vote advocate, I despise Harris based on the fact she was a prosecuting attorney. Despite that fact ,I voted for her based on the fact that if a Nazi enabler got into office again, you can’t realistically try to force change since you’re going to be fighting fascists/racists in the streets and administration and you won’t have time to try and change anything dealing with that constantly.
Marginalized groups of all cloths are going to be endangered and their blood will be spilled by the ones who have been emboldened by this ‘conservative’ movement.
 That is the simple fact why wouldn’t sit this out. Did I really feel my vote would make a difference or either party actually gave a shit about us? No. One just was willfully pushing a white nationalist revolution. I can’t in good conscience help that even by sitting it out.
Now, who’s going to buy Tik Tok and complete the social media brainwashing process? tRump? Musk? Bezos? Zuckerberg? Or will it be one of the white nationalist cronies? They proved it’s definitely an effective tool in steering the mindless herds.
(https://i.postimg.cc/xCKPFV1q/IMG-5391.png) (https://postimg.cc/MMpRv4R8)

I’ll just add articles if/when any are pertinent. Not political discussion.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: EdLawndale on January 22, 2025, 07:20:29 PM
One should live his or her life as a decent person. But when a presidential election has the role of supposed leader of the free world potentially being handed of to an emerging dictatorship, you must vote for the lesser of the two evils. Period.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Cuban_Lynx on January 22, 2025, 09:14:45 PM
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"I just called the mother of Ross William Ulbricht to let her know that in honor of her and the Libertarian Movement, which supported me so strongly, it was my pleasure to have just signed a full and unconditional pardon of her son, Ross."
https://www.npr.org/2025/01/21/nx-s1-5270051/trump-pardons-dark-web-marketplace-creator-ross-ulbricht
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But isn’t that dude some kind of hero in the crypto, libertarian world? In the regards it makes sense he pardons him.
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@Cuban_Lynx I'm sorry you and the people you work with have to deal with this nonsense. It is amazing how much vitriol the GOP has for women and trans people. I'm pretty certain trans individuals make up .4% of population, it seems that the fear and hatred is overblown. Also, I'm curious to see how everyone in your institution with write emails without the use of any pronouns.
You just can’t have your preferred pronouns in Teams or your signature line anymore. Trans employees/veterans also have to go by their birth gender. What’s worse is we got an email from the new director saying we can face “adverse consequences” if we don’t rat out people for breaking this EO.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: h00man on January 22, 2025, 09:20:40 PM
A while back, i threw out a question along the lines of “other than vote, what do you do in support of your community, human rights, social justice, etc” and but a few people, including those who get on the high horse about voting or not voting for Harris, declined to share their experiences or vision regarding the exercise of such outside the voting booth.

Can you explain how supporting my community will keep literal nazis out of the white house?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: botefdunn on January 22, 2025, 10:16:33 PM
I feel bad writing so much, I feel like its irritating, but i want to specify a couple things. First, I have argued long and hard with any trumpeledytes, whenever I've had the opportunity, even today, trying to have a genuine conversation and maybe help people see the folly of supporting someone who is clearly bad for everyone. He is clearly a terrible person to work with or for, or have in a position of responsibility. Or have anything to do with, as far I can tell.
Secondly, if you are someone who votes, the only real choice seemed to be Harris (i don't know if there were lesser known candidates early on?) and I am not a crazy person suggesting she was anywhere near as harmful as trump. It made sense to me that people wanted her to win and voted for her.
@S. I don' see voting and community work as mutually exclusive at all. There are people who vote who also do way more than I do to be political in their communitiea and daily lives. As you said, you don't just vote for a person, but a party or platform, and that is in fact one of the reasons I'm not interested in participating in that process. As I mentioned, I could see myself voting for a person I know, but I believe party politics are fundamentally undemocratic. I believe in people working together to figure things out for the betterment of everyone involved, and I think that takes constant reassing and adjustment. Party politics is a system of coalitions that inevitably prioritizes beating the competition, rather than working together as a group, Essentially, it foments nationalism. There are lots of ways I choose the lesser of evils to make my life easier, but I try not to do this more than necessary, and I believe that there are better forms of organization that are only possible if you move away from the partisan, party system.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: The real veganshawn on January 23, 2025, 07:22:21 AM
I've got a little extra money at the moment, and am considering getting a few decks in case this tariff thing explodes. Anyone else done this?

I have enough decks, wheels, trucks and shoes to kake it though a couple years
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: The real veganshawn on January 23, 2025, 07:24:40 AM
A while back, i threw out a question along the lines of “other than vote, what do you do in support of your community, human rights, social justice, etc” and but a few people, including those who get on the high horse about voting or not voting for Harris, declined to share their experiences or vision regarding the exercise of such outside the voting booth.
Best things you can do are food sharing, start a community garden, supply sharing etc... at this point voting is a moot point, my state (Ohio) is so rigged a progressive candidate can't win let alone a centrist.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: h00man on January 23, 2025, 11:00:40 AM
what I'm trying to get at is that if you're voting D but not actively engaging in the social justice and community building actions that so-called liberal ideals are supposed to espouse, you're part of the problem.

okay so if I actively engage the social justice community, volunteer my time to help those in need, how does that keep Nazis out of the White House?

If you're not actively engaging to dismantle oppressive systems in your community and at large, you're more of part of the problem than people who didn't vote for Harris. You want to talk about Nazi's in the white house but make your good living from the same capitalist teat funding both sides of the government, you're definitely more of a part of the problem than someone who didn't vote Kamala. you wanna make a fat wage in tech or something AI adjacent, at this point, you might as well be in bed with them.

So basically you're saying we shouldn't vote at all because it's enabling oppressive systems?

there were users on this forum telling a Palestinian American to buck up and vote D after they explained conversations he and his wife had about watching children that could well have been theirs being blown to bits. that was one of the most repugnant, heart breaking, and out of touch things I've encountered on 20+ years of slap messageboarding.

Trump is removing sanctions on Israel?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/donald-trump-israel-settlers-west-bank-sanctions-lifted-violence-rcna188503

I'm not even saying "fuck you" to anyone here. Yeah, fuck you to the Nazi's, for sure. Rather, wake up and smell the fucking coffee or maté or whatever you need to put in your gullet to get thinking because it's time to start reflecting on what got us here in the first place.

So.... you offered nothing as to how we can keep literal Nazis out of the White House....

You're basically saying no one should vote because it just keeps feeding the machine...?

Volunteering and engaging our local communities does not keep bad people out of power. Voting does. Does it suck? Yeah. Fuck our voting system. But you need to wake up and smell the coffee and realize that it's what we got and we have to deal with it.

I want to make it clear that I agree with everyone saying Harris was NOT the best choice. I also think Dems are idiots that cling on to power, just like Republicans. You CANNOT tell me, that Harris and Trump are two sides of the same coin. Only a fool would believe that.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Too Frank To Fred on January 23, 2025, 11:17:19 AM


So basically you're saying we shouldn't vote at all because it's enabling oppressive systems?



There's a good case for that. Voting just might inhibit real change.

The narrow choice. The inability to move beyond the two party system. To imagine a better socioeconomic arrangement. All are crushed by the illusion of the vote.

American 'democracy' is bit like Žižek said about Capitalism, "Its easier to envision the end of the world than the end of capitalism."

Personally, I won't judge either way. But if you do vote, do it with no illusion and don't just vote. I'd say a meaningful conversation with someone with different ideas/ identity to you is more worthwhile... but I'm a hippy who wears black...
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: GnarAlarm on January 23, 2025, 11:46:44 AM
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There's a good case for that. Voting just might inhibit real change.

The narrow choice. The inability to move beyond the two party system. To imagine a better socioeconomic arrangement. All are crushed by the illusion of the vote.


The fascists will always make it to polls on election day.
It'd just turn into a one party system.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Colin Robinson on January 23, 2025, 12:01:24 PM
“Don’t vote” is the stupidest fucking response ever, fuck off
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Too Frank To Fred on January 23, 2025, 12:01:52 PM
Well, we need to do more to eradicate that system of belief in the first place, find common ground across the working class (which there is a lot of) and offer alternatives. The real work is not done at the polls.

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Too Frank To Fred on January 23, 2025, 12:03:28 PM
“Don’t vote” is the stupidest fucking response ever, fuck off

I prefer, "Don't just vote." But telling people who are disillusioned with the system to 'fuck off' is also rather.... stupid...
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: GnarAlarm on January 23, 2025, 12:10:06 PM
Well, we need to do more to eradicate that system of belief in the first place, find common ground across the working class (which there is a lot of) and offer alternatives. The real work is not done at the polls.

Whew, unifying the American working class would possibly be the most herculean feat in all of human history.
Half (maybe more than half) of the working class are rabidly anti-union, consistently vote to slash taxes for billionaires, and blame all their problems on sliiiiightly poorer working class people (and all minorities regardless of income).
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on January 23, 2025, 12:12:52 PM
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Well, we need to do more to eradicate that system of belief in the first place, find common ground across the working class (which there is a lot of) and offer alternatives. The real work is not done at the polls.
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Whew, unifying the American working class would possibly be the most herculean feat in all of human history.
Half (maybe more than half) of the working class are rabidly anti-union, consistently vote to slash taxes for billionaires, and blame all their problems on sliiiiightly poorer working class people (and all minorities regardless of income).


Democrats haven’t won the white vote since 1964.  Nothing significant about that date
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Too Frank To Fred on January 23, 2025, 12:16:42 PM
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Well, we need to do more to eradicate that system of belief in the first place, find common ground across the working class (which there is a lot of) and offer alternatives. The real work is not done at the polls.
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Whew, unifying the American working class would possibly be the most herculean feat in all of human history.
Half (maybe more than half) of the working class are rabidly anti-union, consistently vote to slash taxes for billionaires, and blame all their problems on sliiiiightly poorer working class people (and all minorities regardless of income).

Yep.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: EdLawndale on January 23, 2025, 12:29:11 PM
Right. The facists know that an athelete can train and practice and condition all day, morning, noon and night (community outreach, etc.)...but if you don't show up for game time (voting), you lose. Plain and simple.

The impact of all that effort you put in extracurricularly, all that momentum you gained, it's all extremely diminished (and then some).  And that's what matters. It's tactics. You put in the ground work mainly so that people show up and vote; that's one of the primary end goals.

I like you, Too Frank To Fred, but that is an odd take. That's just like cutting of your nose to spite your face. A person basically not doing his or her part to prevent pretty much the worst people from coming and passing legislation that will affect in a negative manner the people of this country -- especially the already marginalized folks who spend their life fighting an uphill battle -- for years upon years to come.

A protest vote because of Kamala's stance on the Israel/Palestine conflict? Donald Trump and his cronies don't give a fuck about the ppl in Palestine.

At least if some nujob is gung-ho about stopping abortion, like that is their main goal in life, but they don't really agree with rest of the right-wing agenda, I can kind of understand that person voting Red because the current admisitration is doing all they can to outlaw abortion.

But it's painfully obvious that life for those in Palestine will be no better under Trump's watch.  I literally see convoys of cars around here in L.A. driving around simultaneously flying Trump and Israel flags. He does not give a fuck. He actively hates ppl who have brown skin. Why would someone who could vote against that, not vote against that?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: EdLawndale on January 23, 2025, 01:26:05 PM
My personal opinion is that you should start incorporating the idea of looking at it as a showdown because these showdowns literally happen every 2 to 4 years.

And they decide who has the power to pass legislation.

They're demolishing things that we just take as givens. I just watched a video where Republicans are saying that, under Trump, they are going to pass legislation to get rid of U.S. birthright citizenship. That is insane and they can only do this because they won elections.

And, yes, I do blame anyone who has seen Donald Trump voice his disgusting opinions and desires, and then not actively vote against him.  That's just me.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: botefdunn on January 23, 2025, 02:05:27 PM
@h00man you said


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So basically you're saying we shouldn't vote at all because it's enabling oppressive systems?"

I know you werent responding direct to me, but wanted to say that personally, this is not my opinion. Actions people take in the name of equality and trying make things better for evwryone and not just themselves, I respect, and that includes voting, even if i dont do it. Diversity of tactics.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: skateordie on January 23, 2025, 02:31:57 PM
While people are blaming theoretical protest non-voters, I haven't once heard anyone talk about the demographic shifts that occurred in this last election cycle. Here's a piece, it's NPR, but worth looking at

https://www.npr.org/2024/11/22/nx-s1-5199119/2024-election-exit-polls-demographics-black-latino-voters (https://www.npr.org/2024/11/22/nx-s1-5199119/2024-election-exit-polls-demographics-black-latino-voters).

I'm not a statistician but the argument being presented, that this administration is the fault of those who may have, in other times voted D, but chose to cast no vote this round, may be disqualified by the numbers showing the D's failure to both maintain and gain voters, much of those being what some call "minority voters."

Why aren't y'all openly casting blame on black men, latinx, asian american, and arab american voters for leaving the Democratic party; for what some might say is "voting against their own/best interests"? What I'm seeing here on slap is that rather than being the fault of the party, the fucking capitalist class with a D on their name tags, who NEVER vote against their own IMMEDIATE interests, who have refused to run a popular candidate in 3 election cycles, the current administration is the fault of citizenry who may or may have not voted D because they felt disenfranchised and lied to.

@EdLawndale

We do such things because we're in it every single day, not because we're training for a big showdown. We do them because we are decent human beings who know that the support systems outside our control are designed to fail. We see these things not as "extracurricular," but as important aspects of our daily existence.

i asked these two hispanic dudes (young 20s) from harlem that i worked with at an old job about the word "latinx". they said the only ppl that say that are white kids from the suburbs and white-washed hispanic kids.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: h00man on January 23, 2025, 02:36:03 PM
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Why aren't y'all openly casting blame on black men, latinx, asian american, and arab american voters for leaving the Democratic party; for what some might say is "voting against their own/best interests"?
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You want us to single out minorities and POC's who voted Trump?

No.
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you've already singled out arab americans who didn't vote for Kamala, what's the difference?

Excuse me? When did I say that?

if you're refering to this:

If you protest voted or sat out of this election year because "Harris is a war monger",


How does that single out Arab Americans? I didn't know only Arab Americans protest voted or sat out....
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Dwyck on January 23, 2025, 02:41:04 PM
Remember, if you voted Trump, fuck you.

If you protest voted or sat out of this election year because "Harris is a war monger", fuck you even more.

Fuck. YOU.

this is a pigheaded, principle lacking take
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: EdLawndale on January 23, 2025, 02:47:32 PM
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While people are blaming theoretical protest non-voters, I haven't once heard anyone talk about the demographic shifts that occurred in this last election cycle. Here's a piece, it's NPR, but worth looking at

https://www.npr.org/2024/11/22/nx-s1-5199119/2024-election-exit-polls-demographics-black-latino-voters (https://www.npr.org/2024/11/22/nx-s1-5199119/2024-election-exit-polls-demographics-black-latino-voters).

I'm not a statistician but the argument being presented, that this administration is the fault of those who may have, in other times voted D, but chose to cast no vote this round, may be disqualified by the numbers showing the D's failure to both maintain and gain voters, much of those being what some call "minority voters."

Why aren't y'all openly casting blame on black men, latinx, asian american, and arab american voters for leaving the Democratic party; for what some might say is "voting against their own/best interests"? What I'm seeing here on slap is that rather than being the fault of the party, the fucking capitalist class with a D on their name tags, who NEVER vote against their own IMMEDIATE interests, who have refused to run a popular candidate in 3 election cycles, the current administration is the fault of citizenry who may or may have not voted D because they felt disenfranchised and lied to.

@EdLawndale

We do such things because we're in it every single day, not because we're training for a big showdown. We do them because we are decent human beings who know that the support systems outside our control are designed to fail. We see these things not as "extracurricular," but as important aspects of our daily existence.
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i asked these two hispanic dudes (young 20s) from harlem that i worked with at an old job about the word "latinx". they said the only ppl that say that are white kids from the suburbs and white-washed hispanic kids.

Cool story, bro.

...And?

What other life-changing pearls of wisdom did these world-weary twenty-something Harlemites impart upon you?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Too Frank To Fred on January 23, 2025, 02:56:47 PM




I like you, Too Frank To Fred, but that is an odd take. That's just like cutting of your nose to spite your face. A person basically not doing his or her part to prevent pretty much the worst people from coming and passing legislation that will affect in a negative manner the people of this country -- especially the already marginalized folks who spend their life fighting an uphill battle -- for years upon years to come.



I realize I may have come across as somewhat self-contradictory. To be clear, I voted. My point is, I understand the reasons people abstain and I can also see the logic that voting is an endorsement of a broken system.

Ultimately, I encourage everyone to use all the tools they are comfortable with...
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: augustmoon on January 23, 2025, 03:29:51 PM
I hate to be the one to break it to you guys, but voting ain’t gonna do shit.  The game is rigged and we already lost.  It’s over
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: skateordie on January 23, 2025, 03:36:43 PM
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While people are blaming theoretical protest non-voters, I haven't once heard anyone talk about the demographic shifts that occurred in this last election cycle. Here's a piece, it's NPR, but worth looking at

https://www.npr.org/2024/11/22/nx-s1-5199119/2024-election-exit-polls-demographics-black-latino-voters (https://www.npr.org/2024/11/22/nx-s1-5199119/2024-election-exit-polls-demographics-black-latino-voters).

I'm not a statistician but the argument being presented, that this administration is the fault of those who may have, in other times voted D, but chose to cast no vote this round, may be disqualified by the numbers showing the D's failure to both maintain and gain voters, much of those being what some call "minority voters."

Why aren't y'all openly casting blame on black men, latinx, asian american, and arab american voters for leaving the Democratic party; for what some might say is "voting against their own/best interests"? What I'm seeing here on slap is that rather than being the fault of the party, the fucking capitalist class with a D on their name tags, who NEVER vote against their own IMMEDIATE interests, who have refused to run a popular candidate in 3 election cycles, the current administration is the fault of citizenry who may or may have not voted D because they felt disenfranchised and lied to.

@EdLawndale

We do such things because we're in it every single day, not because we're training for a big showdown. We do them because we are decent human beings who know that the support systems outside our control are designed to fail. We see these things not as "extracurricular," but as important aspects of our daily existence.
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i asked these two hispanic dudes (young 20s) from harlem that i worked with at an old job about the word "latinx". they said the only ppl that say that are white kids from the suburbs and white-washed hispanic kids.
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Cool story, bro.

...And?

What other life-changing pearls of wisdom did these world-weary twenty-something Harlemites impart upon you?

didn't change my life in the least. i was never one to say "latinx" in the first place.

anyway, don't kook the messenger - just thought i'd share what your target audience thinks of your language. apologies for triggering you.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: radcunt on January 23, 2025, 03:45:06 PM
So if there's ever another election, and it's not completely rigged at its core, AOC running in 2028 could be the vibe.  Apparently she's been planning it for years and could be the heel turn the dems need to at least start pushing away from the right.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Painted Baby on January 23, 2025, 05:09:00 PM
So if there's ever another election, and it's not completely rigged at its core, AOC running in 2028 could be the vibe.  Apparently she's been planning it for years and could be the heel turn the dems need to at least start pushing away from the right.
It's what makes sense. She was the Dem who split the ticket in her district and won in spite of it otherwise going for Trump. Of course, the Dems have botched this shit over pettiness before and I don't think they've learned anything from that last drubbing.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: GnarAlarm on January 23, 2025, 05:54:12 PM
While people are blaming theoretical protest non-voters, I haven't once heard anyone talk about the demographic shifts that occurred in this last election cycle. Here's a piece, it's NPR, but worth looking at

https://www.npr.org/2024/11/22/nx-s1-5199119/2024-election-exit-polls-demographics-black-latino-voters (https://www.npr.org/2024/11/22/nx-s1-5199119/2024-election-exit-polls-demographics-black-latino-voters).

I'm not a statistician but the argument being presented, that this administration is the fault of those who may have, in other times voted D, but chose to cast no vote this round, may be disqualified by the numbers showing the D's failure to both maintain and gain voters, much of those being what some call "minority voters."

Why aren't y'all openly casting blame on black men, latinx, asian american, and arab american voters for leaving the Democratic party; for what some might say is "voting against their own/best interests"? What I'm seeing here on slap is that rather than being the fault of the party, the fucking capitalist class with a D on their name tags, who NEVER vote against their own IMMEDIATE interests, who have refused to run a popular candidate in 3 election cycles, the current administration is the fault of citizenry who may or may have not voted D because they felt disenfranchised and lied to.

@EdLawndale

We do such things because we're in it every single day, not because we're training for a big showdown. We do them because we are decent human beings who know that the support systems outside our control are designed to fail. We see these things not as "extracurricular," but as important aspects of our daily existence.

I mean, okay cool, clearly enough people agreed with you. You won. People switched sides or didn't vote.
Congratulations, I guess.
A white supremacist is the head of the department of defense.
"The official stance of the United States is that there are two genders" - Donald Trump
We're about to be fucked ten ways from Sunday by tariffs.
Elon Musk is at his most powerful.
Mass deportation is on the horizon.
The environment is fucking doomed.
Now what?

You're on a high horse demanding explanations from us, but you won, dude.
This is what YOU wanted. People didn't vote! The dog caught the car.
Why don't you explain to us how this is a good thing and will bring about positive change?
Put a positive spin on this...please...I fucking need one.

I think it's insincere the way you responded to Ed, as though we're not really decent humans but only trying to do good in our communities to further our odds in a contest. It was an analogy, don't be pedantic.

I answered your question about what I do besides just voting, well, what do YOU do besides NOT vote and go online to discourage others from voting?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on January 23, 2025, 07:51:51 PM
https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/israel-west-bank-offensive-deaths-palestinians-trump-sanctions-settlers/
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Top-Heavy Hookjaw on January 23, 2025, 08:22:59 PM
https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/israel-west-bank-offensive-deaths-palestinians-trump-sanctions-settlers/
Because Harris and Biden have been so good to the Palestinians during their term, especially these past 15 months. Biden could’ve ended the bloodshed in Gaza and the West Bank anytime he wanted to. Either through an arms embargo or putting tougher conditions on aid to Israel. Neither party gives a shit about Palestinians.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: fakie nollie on January 23, 2025, 08:37:48 PM
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While people are blaming theoretical protest non-voters, I haven't once heard anyone talk about the demographic shifts that occurred in this last election cycle. Here's a piece, it's NPR, but worth looking at

https://www.npr.org/2024/11/22/nx-s1-5199119/2024-election-exit-polls-demographics-black-latino-voters (https://www.npr.org/2024/11/22/nx-s1-5199119/2024-election-exit-polls-demographics-black-latino-voters).

I'm not a statistician but the argument being presented, that this administration is the fault of those who may have, in other times voted D, but chose to cast no vote this round, may be disqualified by the numbers showing the D's failure to both maintain and gain voters, much of those being what some call "minority voters."

Why aren't y'all openly casting blame on black men, latinx, asian american, and arab american voters for leaving the Democratic party; for what some might say is "voting against their own/best interests"? What I'm seeing here on slap is that rather than being the fault of the party, the fucking capitalist class with a D on their name tags, who NEVER vote against their own IMMEDIATE interests, who have refused to run a popular candidate in 3 election cycles, the current administration is the fault of citizenry who may or may have not voted D because they felt disenfranchised and lied to.

@EdLawndale

We do such things because we're in it every single day, not because we're training for a big showdown. We do them because we are decent human beings who know that the support systems outside our control are designed to fail. We see these things not as "extracurricular," but as important aspects of our daily existence.
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I mean, okay cool, clearly enough people agreed with you. You won. People switched sides or didn't vote.
Congratulations, I guess.
A white supremacist is the head of the department of defense.
"The official stance of the United States is that there are two genders" - Donald Trump
We're about to be fucked ten ways from Sunday by tariffs.
Elon Musk is at his most powerful.
Mass deportation is on the horizon.
The environment is fucking doomed.
Now what?

You're on a high horse demanding explanations from us, but you won, dude.
This is what YOU wanted. People didn't vote! The dog caught the car.
Why don't you explain to us how this is a good thing and will bring about positive change?
Put a positive spin on this...please...I fucking need one.

I think it's insincere the way you responded to Ed, as though we're not really decent humans but only trying to do good in our communities to further our odds in a contest. It was an analogy, don't be pedantic.

I answered your question about what I do besides just voting, well, what do YOU do besides NOT vote and go online to discourage others from voting?

Yeah what they said
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on January 23, 2025, 08:41:16 PM
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Because Harris and Biden have been so good to the Palestinians during their term, especially these past 15 months. Biden could’ve ended the bloodshed in Gaza and the West Bank anytime he wanted to. Either through an arms embargo or putting tougher conditions on aid to Israel. Neither party gives a shit about Palestinians.

Rhetorically, she didn’t do much to distance herself, but let’s not pretend Kamala actually had any input into what was going on in the Middle East
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on January 23, 2025, 08:58:08 PM
Who needs scientists anyway?

https://www.statnews.com/2025/01/22/trump-administrations-cancels-scientific-meetings-abruptly/
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Youoverthere on January 23, 2025, 11:48:50 PM
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While people are blaming theoretical protest non-voters, I haven't once heard anyone talk about the demographic shifts that occurred in this last election cycle. Here's a piece, it's NPR, but worth looking at

https://www.npr.org/2024/11/22/nx-s1-5199119/2024-election-exit-polls-demographics-black-latino-voters (https://www.npr.org/2024/11/22/nx-s1-5199119/2024-election-exit-polls-demographics-black-latino-voters).

I'm not a statistician but the argument being presented, that this administration is the fault of those who may have, in other times voted D, but chose to cast no vote this round, may be disqualified by the numbers showing the D's failure to both maintain and gain voters, much of those being what some call "minority voters."

Why aren't y'all openly casting blame on black men, latinx, asian american, and arab american voters for leaving the Democratic party; for what some might say is "voting against their own/best interests"? What I'm seeing here on slap is that rather than being the fault of the party, the fucking capitalist class with a D on their name tags, who NEVER vote against their own IMMEDIATE interests, who have refused to run a popular candidate in 3 election cycles, the current administration is the fault of citizenry who may or may have not voted D because they felt disenfranchised and lied to.

@EdLawndale

We do such things because we're in it every single day, not because we're training for a big showdown. We do them because we are decent human beings who know that the support systems outside our control are designed to fail. We see these things not as "extracurricular," but as important aspects of our daily existence.
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i asked these two hispanic dudes (young 20s) from harlem that i worked with at an old job about the word "latinx". they said the only ppl that say that are white kids from the suburbs and white-washed hispanic kids.
[close]

Cool story, bro.

...And?

What other life-changing pearls of wisdom did these world-weary twenty-something Harlemites impart upon you?
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didn't change my life in the least. i was never one to say "latinx" in the first place.

anyway, don't kook the messenger - just thought i'd share what your target audience thinks of your language. apologies for triggering you.
The term latinx is stupid. For whatever reason white Americans just love to group together a bunch of vastly different cultures of brown and black people under a tidy monolith. And also every Spanish speaking homie I hang with has qualms with the term. Even just surface level it’s not an actual word that can be said in Spanish and it shits on anyone who identifies as indigenous. And for sample size I live in Aurora, CO. Like 80% of all my interactions with people are with Spanish speaking people.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on January 24, 2025, 12:08:30 AM
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While people are blaming theoretical protest non-voters, I haven't once heard anyone talk about the demographic shifts that occurred in this last election cycle. Here's a piece, it's NPR, but worth looking at

https://www.npr.org/2024/11/22/nx-s1-5199119/2024-election-exit-polls-demographics-black-latino-voters (https://www.npr.org/2024/11/22/nx-s1-5199119/2024-election-exit-polls-demographics-black-latino-voters).

I'm not a statistician but the argument being presented, that this administration is the fault of those who may have, in other times voted D, but chose to cast no vote this round, may be disqualified by the numbers showing the D's failure to both maintain and gain voters, much of those being what some call "minority voters."

Why aren't y'all openly casting blame on black men, latinx, asian american, and arab american voters for leaving the Democratic party; for what some might say is "voting against their own/best interests"? What I'm seeing here on slap is that rather than being the fault of the party, the fucking capitalist class with a D on their name tags, who NEVER vote against their own IMMEDIATE interests, who have refused to run a popular candidate in 3 election cycles, the current administration is the fault of citizenry who may or may have not voted D because they felt disenfranchised and lied to.

@EdLawndale

We do such things because we're in it every single day, not because we're training for a big showdown. We do them because we are decent human beings who know that the support systems outside our control are designed to fail. We see these things not as "extracurricular," but as important aspects of our daily existence.
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i asked these two hispanic dudes (young 20s) from harlem that i worked with at an old job about the word "latinx". they said the only ppl that say that are white kids from the suburbs and white-washed hispanic kids.
[close]

Cool story, bro.

...And?

What other life-changing pearls of wisdom did these world-weary twenty-something Harlemites impart upon you?
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didn't change my life in the least. i was never one to say "latinx" in the first place.

anyway, don't kook the messenger - just thought i'd share what your target audience thinks of your language. apologies for triggering you.
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The term latinx is stupid. For whatever reason white Americans just love to group together a bunch of vastly different cultures of brown and black people under a tidy monolith. And also every Spanish speaking homie I hang with has qualms with the term. Even just surface level it’s not an actual word that can be said in Spanish and it shits on anyone who identifies as indigenous. And for sample size I live in Aurora, CO. Like 80% of all my interactions with people are with Spanish speaking people.

I’m pretty sure the term originated within the queer Latinx community but white people ran with it
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mr. Pickles on January 24, 2025, 12:51:05 AM
I hate to be the one to break it to you guys, but voting ain’t gonna do shit.  The game is rigged and we already lost.  It’s over

Agreed. Game over.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Colin Robinson on January 24, 2025, 04:54:20 AM
Taking it lying down like a bitch isn’t helping either, fuck the defeatist attitudes and apathy on display in here. Vote at the bare minimum, go out and talk to people and organize in real life, “touch grass” as one would put it.

Or just take it lying down like a fucking pussy, do you then.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: EdLawndale on January 24, 2025, 05:26:40 AM
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While people are blaming theoretical protest non-voters, I haven't once heard anyone talk about the demographic shifts that occurred in this last election cycle. Here's a piece, it's NPR, but worth looking at

https://www.npr.org/2024/11/22/nx-s1-5199119/2024-election-exit-polls-demographics-black-latino-voters (https://www.npr.org/2024/11/22/nx-s1-5199119/2024-election-exit-polls-demographics-black-latino-voters).

I'm not a statistician but the argument being presented, that this administration is the fault of those who may have, in other times voted D, but chose to cast no vote this round, may be disqualified by the numbers showing the D's failure to both maintain and gain voters, much of those being what some call "minority voters."

Why aren't y'all openly casting blame on black men, latinx, asian american, and arab american voters for leaving the Democratic party; for what some might say is "voting against their own/best interests"? What I'm seeing here on slap is that rather than being the fault of the party, the fucking capitalist class with a D on their name tags, who NEVER vote against their own IMMEDIATE interests, who have refused to run a popular candidate in 3 election cycles, the current administration is the fault of citizenry who may or may have not voted D because they felt disenfranchised and lied to.

@EdLawndale

We do such things because we're in it every single day, not because we're training for a big showdown. We do them because we are decent human beings who know that the support systems outside our control are designed to fail. We see these things not as "extracurricular," but as important aspects of our daily existence.
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i asked these two hispanic dudes (young 20s) from harlem that i worked with at an old job about the word "latinx". they said the only ppl that say that are white kids from the suburbs and white-washed hispanic kids.
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Cool story, bro.

...And?

What other life-changing pearls of wisdom did these world-weary twenty-something Harlemites impart upon you?
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didn't change my life in the least. i was never one to say "latinx" in the first place.

anyway, don't kook the messenger - just thought i'd share what your target audience thinks of your language. apologies for triggering you.
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The term latinx is stupid. For whatever reason white Americans just love to group together a bunch of vastly different cultures of brown and black people under a tidy monolith. And also every Spanish speaking homie I hang with has qualms with the term. Even just surface level it’s not an actual word that can be said in Spanish and it shits on anyone who identifies as indigenous. And for sample size I live in Aurora, CO. Like 80% of all my interactions with people are with Spanish speaking people.

*writes down on paper* Okay, "two hispanic dudes from Harlem"...check..."80% of Spanish speaking homies in Aurora, CO"...check.

It's a term that originated online, mainly purposed to advocate for the inclusion of non-binary individuals. Not surprising a lot of folks take issue with it. But it also gained traction after the 2016 Pulse shooting, so kind of a result of our nation trying to heal as a community. How could you hate that?

Do I use the term? Not really no. Do I take issue with it? Of course not. The same way I don't balk at gender-neutral language in general. Respect and understand how Hispanic traditionalists may take umbrage with it, but I'm not trying to allign myself with the "anti-woke" movement.

The world has some big problems going on, why focus on a term that is quite minor in the larger scheme of things (plus has roots in protest movements and is only intended to generate inclusivity)?

This is a new age (or rather a return to the old age) in America where there's going to be a lot of push-back against anything that's not inherently Straight White American Male. Get ready for it, because it's here. I haven't figured out yet if we're only going to go back to a time where ppl freely throw around homophobic slurs and assault women with little to no recourse, or if folks are going to get dragged behind pick-up trucks.

But seeing as though that is the way things are generally moving, I can assure you that, for any person who wants to be progressive and fight on the side of good, spending time and energy trying to discredit "Latinx" is not the jam.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Rusty Shackleford on January 24, 2025, 06:51:06 AM
the bishop who pleaded with donald to show mercy and compassion to the vulnerable across all political affiliations and religions is recieving death threats.
while I do agree with you 100%
even jesus is too woke for these folk
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: noxiousPond on January 24, 2025, 07:03:20 AM
I hate to be the one to break it to you guys, but voting ain’t gonna do shit.  The game is rigged and we already lost.  It’s over

Yup. It’s all corrupt corporate greed. The conservatives target and brain wash the elderly and the democrats target the young and naive. Fuck all politicians
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: backside_frontside on January 24, 2025, 07:31:46 AM
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Because Harris and Biden have been so good to the Palestinians during their term, especially these past 15 months. Biden could’ve ended the bloodshed in Gaza and the West Bank anytime he wanted to. Either through an arms embargo or putting tougher conditions on aid to Israel. Neither party gives a shit about Palestinians.
It's really naive to think Biden would've just called up Bibi and be like "you guys need to stop this malarky or else no more iron dome missiles for you". Like lol yeah right that's never happening. In what world do you think Biden would've ever done that? He's the most spineless and milquetoast man in history.

I do agree that neither party gives a shit about Palestinians.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mr. Pickles on January 24, 2025, 07:58:05 AM
Taking it lying down like a bitch isn’t helping either, fuck the defeatist attitudes and apathy on display in here. Vote at the bare minimum, go out and talk to people and organize in real life, “touch grass” as one would put it.

Or just take it lying down like a fucking pussy, do you then.

Look at you and your hope. Cute.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Too Frank To Fred on January 24, 2025, 08:10:28 AM
I think what's going to be key is not fight each other. sounds simple and obvious but keep your eye on the real enemy. Just look at how this thread is playing out.

I'm a social worker, I work for a Fed funded housing program ran by a non-profit. I can feel people's stress-levels rising... We are already fighting each other over DEI... Divide and Conquer... Be patient with each other, assume best intentions, lead with kindness and direct your hate and resistance in the right direction... Sounds easy but it really is a practice...

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Franksnose76 on January 24, 2025, 08:12:01 AM
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I hate to be the one to break it to you guys, but voting ain’t gonna do shit.  The game is rigged and we already lost.  It’s over
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Yup. It’s all corrupt corporate greed. The conservatives target and brain wash the elderly and the democrats target the young and naive. Fuck all politicians
Well if one of your family members gets deported or can't afford healthcare then that blood is on your hands. 

You allowed it to happen, hope you're proud of yourself. dick for brains
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: GnarAlarm on January 24, 2025, 08:17:22 AM
I think what's going to be key is not fight each other. sounds simple and obvious but keep your eye on the real enemy. Just look at how this thread is playing out.

I'm a social worker, I work for a Fed funded housing program ran by a non-profit. I can feel people's stress-levels rising... We are already fighting each other over DEI... Divide and Conquer... Be patient with each other, assume best intentions, lead with kindness and direct your hate and resistance in the right direction... Sounds easy but it really is a practice...

Damn, man. If I worked for a federally funded housing program I'd be updating my resume as we speak.
Hopefully you don't get shut down!
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Franksnose76 on January 24, 2025, 08:22:11 AM
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I hate to be the one to break it to you guys, but voting ain’t gonna do shit.  The game is rigged and we already lost.  It’s over
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Yup. It’s all corrupt corporate greed. The conservatives target and brain wash the elderly and the democrats target the young and naive. Fuck all politicians
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Well if one of your family members gets deported or can't afford healthcare then that blood is on your hands. 

You allowed it to happen, hope you're proud of yourself. dick for brains
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Really not helpful to discourse...
I realize that in hindsight, let's just say that I'm pissed off. The closest to having a class war or ppl realizing it was that Luigi guy.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: noxiousPond on January 24, 2025, 08:39:58 AM
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I hate to be the one to break it to you guys, but voting ain’t gonna do shit.  The game is rigged and we already lost.  It’s over
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Yup. It’s all corrupt corporate greed. The conservatives target and brain wash the elderly and the democrats target the young and naive. Fuck all politicians
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Well if one of your family members gets deported or can't afford healthcare then that blood is on your hands. 

You allowed it to happen, hope you're proud of yourself. dick for brains

Actually my ex wife got deported when trump was first president and I lived in Tijuana with her for 2 years.

lol blood on my hands. Like voting for one corrupt asshole over another is gonna change anything. The only way to change this system is to bring more Luigi’s into the world and take them down
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Too Frank To Fred on January 24, 2025, 08:49:15 AM
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I think what's going to be key is not fight each other. sounds simple and obvious but keep your eye on the real enemy. Just look at how this thread is playing out.

I'm a social worker, I work for a Fed funded housing program ran by a non-profit. I can feel people's stress-levels rising... We are already fighting each other over DEI... Divide and Conquer... Be patient with each other, assume best intentions, lead with kindness and direct your hate and resistance in the right direction... Sounds easy but it really is a practice...
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Damn, man. If I worked for a federally funded housing program I'd be updating my resume as we speak.
Hopefully you don't get shut down!

I actually handed in my notice for entirely different reasons (last day is March 21st) but we've been working on alternative funding sources. Multnomah county and the State of Oregon will likely have our backs.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: skate_or_dingus on January 24, 2025, 08:50:58 AM
Taking it lying down like a bitch isn’t helping either, fuck the defeatist attitudes and apathy on display in here. Vote at the bare minimum, go out and talk to people and organize in real life, “touch grass” as one would put it.

Or just take it lying down like a fucking pussy, do you then.

 Yeah people are really gonna listen to what you have to say when you're constantly talking like an aggro asshole
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Franksnose76 on January 24, 2025, 08:52:15 AM
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I hate to be the one to break it to you guys, but voting ain’t gonna do shit.  The game is rigged and we already lost.  It’s over
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Yup. It’s all corrupt corporate greed. The conservatives target and brain wash the elderly and the democrats target the young and naive. Fuck all politicians
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Well if one of your family members gets deported or can't afford healthcare then that blood is on your hands. 

You allowed it to happen, hope you're proud of yourself. dick for brains
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Actually my ex wife got deported when trump was first president and I lived in Tijuana with her for 2 years.

lol blood on my hands. Like voting for one corrupt asshole over another is gonna change anything. The only way to change this system is to bring more Luigi’s into the world and take them down
Fair enough.at least you understand the need for class war, I lost my step mom to breast cancer a few years back when they approved her meds it was too late. I apologize for being so crass just this election has reinvigorated my hate politics
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: skateordie on January 24, 2025, 09:00:01 AM
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While people are blaming theoretical protest non-voters, I haven't once heard anyone talk about the demographic shifts that occurred in this last election cycle. Here's a piece, it's NPR, but worth looking at

https://www.npr.org/2024/11/22/nx-s1-5199119/2024-election-exit-polls-demographics-black-latino-voters (https://www.npr.org/2024/11/22/nx-s1-5199119/2024-election-exit-polls-demographics-black-latino-voters).

I'm not a statistician but the argument being presented, that this administration is the fault of those who may have, in other times voted D, but chose to cast no vote this round, may be disqualified by the numbers showing the D's failure to both maintain and gain voters, much of those being what some call "minority voters."

Why aren't y'all openly casting blame on black men, latinx, asian american, and arab american voters for leaving the Democratic party; for what some might say is "voting against their own/best interests"? What I'm seeing here on slap is that rather than being the fault of the party, the fucking capitalist class with a D on their name tags, who NEVER vote against their own IMMEDIATE interests, who have refused to run a popular candidate in 3 election cycles, the current administration is the fault of citizenry who may or may have not voted D because they felt disenfranchised and lied to.

@EdLawndale

We do such things because we're in it every single day, not because we're training for a big showdown. We do them because we are decent human beings who know that the support systems outside our control are designed to fail. We see these things not as "extracurricular," but as important aspects of our daily existence.
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i asked these two hispanic dudes (young 20s) from harlem that i worked with at an old job about the word "latinx". they said the only ppl that say that are white kids from the suburbs and white-washed hispanic kids.
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Cool story, bro.

...And?

What other life-changing pearls of wisdom did these world-weary twenty-something Harlemites impart upon you?
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didn't change my life in the least. i was never one to say "latinx" in the first place.

anyway, don't kook the messenger - just thought i'd share what your target audience thinks of your language. apologies for triggering you.
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The term latinx is stupid. For whatever reason white Americans just love to group together a bunch of vastly different cultures of brown and black people under a tidy monolith. And also every Spanish speaking homie I hang with has qualms with the term. Even just surface level it’s not an actual word that can be said in Spanish and it shits on anyone who identifies as indigenous. And for sample size I live in Aurora, CO. Like 80% of all my interactions with people are with Spanish speaking people.
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*writes down on paper* Okay, "two hispanic dudes from Harlem"...check..."80% of Spanish speaking homies in Aurora, CO"...check.

It's a term that originated online
, mainly purposed to advocate for the inclusion of non-binary individuals. Not surprising a lot of folks take issue with it. But it also gained traction after the 2016 Pulse shooting, so kind of a result of our nation trying to heal as a community. How could you hate that?

Do I use the term? Not really no. Do I take issue with it? Of course not. The same way I don't balk at gender-neutral language in general. Respect and understand how Hispanic traditionalists may take umbrage with it, but I'm not trying to allign myself with the "anti-woke" movement.

The world has some big problems going on, why focus on a term that is quite minor in the larger scheme of things (plus has roots in protest movements and is only intended to generate inclusivity)?

This is a new age (or rather a return to the old age) in America where there's going to be a lot of push-back against anything that's not inherently Straight White American Male. Get ready for it, because it's here. I haven't figured out yet if we're only going to go back to a time where ppl freely throw around homophobic slurs and assault women with little to no recourse, or if folks are going to get dragged behind pick-up trucks.

But seeing as though that is the way things are generally moving, I can assure you that, for any person who wants to be progressive and fight on the side of good, spending time and energy trying to discredit "Latinx" is not the jam.

two hispanic dudes from Harlem + 80% of Spanish speaking homies in Aurora vs. some nameless/faceless social justice keyboard warriors... hmm, tough decision. 
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Top-Heavy Hookjaw on January 24, 2025, 09:15:38 AM
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Because Harris and Biden have been so good to the Palestinians during their term, especially these past 15 months. Biden could’ve ended the bloodshed in Gaza and the West Bank anytime he wanted to. Either through an arms embargo or putting tougher conditions on aid to Israel. Neither party gives a shit about Palestinians.
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It's really naive to think Biden would've just called up Bibi and be like "you guys need to stop this malarky or else no more iron dome missiles for you". Like lol yeah right that's never happening. In what world do you think Biden would've ever done that? He's the most spineless and milquetoast man in history.

I do agree that neither party gives a shit about Palestinians.

It is not naivety. He has done it before. In May of 2021 when Sheikh Jarrah was happening.

“But guess who he couldn’t reject? Yes, the president of the United States. “We need to accomplish more,” pleaded Netanyahu when Biden called him on 19 May, according to the journalist Franklin Foer. The president’s response? “Hey, man, we are out of runway here. It’s over.”

Two days later, a ceasefire was announced. And, less than a month later, the Israeli prime minister had been ejected from office.”

You can read about it here and how it applies to the situation in Gaza over the last 15 months.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/feb/21/biden-stop-gaza-bombing-genocide-israel

The US arms Israel. If we turn off the flow of arms, less people die. It’s a simple equation.
I’m sure the fact that it was an election year was a deterrent. Both parties need that AIPAC money.

Glad we agree that both parties are shit on this topic. ✌️


Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: noxiousPond on January 24, 2025, 09:41:36 AM
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I hate to be the one to break it to you guys, but voting ain’t gonna do shit.  The game is rigged and we already lost.  It’s over
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Yup. It’s all corrupt corporate greed. The conservatives target and brain wash the elderly and the democrats target the young and naive. Fuck all politicians
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Well if one of your family members gets deported or can't afford healthcare then that blood is on your hands. 

You allowed it to happen, hope you're proud of yourself. dick for brains
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Actually my ex wife got deported when trump was first president and I lived in Tijuana with her for 2 years.

lol blood on my hands. Like voting for one corrupt asshole over another is gonna change anything. The only way to change this system is to bring more Luigi’s into the world and take them down
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Fair enough.at least you understand the need for class war, I lost my step mom to breast cancer a few years back when they approved her meds it was too late. I apologize for being so crass just this election has reinvigorated my hate politics

All good dude. I apologize too. I know politics causes so much hatred. It’s what they want at the end of the day. Sorry for your loss
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Unkle Fleak on January 24, 2025, 09:56:31 AM
I was wrong
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: GnarAlarm on January 24, 2025, 10:43:02 AM
Thanks for a response more thoughtful and respectful than my rant.
Full disclosure, I was a few beers deep and it's been hard to keep from wearing my heart on my sleeve lately.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: backside_frontside on January 24, 2025, 11:05:33 AM
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Because Harris and Biden have been so good to the Palestinians during their term, especially these past 15 months. Biden could’ve ended the bloodshed in Gaza and the West Bank anytime he wanted to. Either through an arms embargo or putting tougher conditions on aid to Israel. Neither party gives a shit about Palestinians.
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It's really naive to think Biden would've just called up Bibi and be like "you guys need to stop this malarky or else no more iron dome missiles for you". Like lol yeah right that's never happening. In what world do you think Biden would've ever done that? He's the most spineless and milquetoast man in history.

I do agree that neither party gives a shit about Palestinians.
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It is not naivety. He has done it before. In May of 2021 when Sheikh Jarrah was happening.

“But guess who he couldn’t reject? Yes, the president of the United States. “We need to accomplish more,” pleaded Netanyahu when Biden called him on 19 May, according to the journalist Franklin Foer. The president’s response? “Hey, man, we are out of runway here. It’s over.”

Two days later, a ceasefire was announced. And, less than a month later, the Israeli prime minister had been ejected from office.”

You can read about it here and how it applies to the situation in Gaza over the last 15 months.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/feb/21/biden-stop-gaza-bombing-genocide-israel

The US arms Israel. If we turn off the flow of arms, less people die. It’s a simple equation.
I’m sure the fact that it was an election year was a deterrent. Both parties need that AIPAC money.

Glad we agree that both parties are shit on this topic. ✌️
Damn, I didn't know Biden had a spine in 2021.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: radcunt on January 24, 2025, 01:05:22 PM
I think what's going to be key is not fight each other. sounds simple and obvious but keep your eye on the real enemy. Just look at how this thread is playing out.

I'm a social worker, I work for a Fed funded housing program ran by a non-profit. I can feel people's stress-levels rising... We are already fighting each other over DEI... Divide and Conquer... Be patient with each other, assume best intentions, lead with kindness and direct your hate and resistance in the right direction... Sounds easy but it really is a practice...


This is the core of it all.  Finding common ground with all of your fellow citizens and realising you're all viewed as expendable fuel to feed the greed machine. 
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: GnarAlarm on January 24, 2025, 01:27:23 PM
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I think what's going to be key is not fight each other. sounds simple and obvious but keep your eye on the real enemy. Just look at how this thread is playing out.

I'm a social worker, I work for a Fed funded housing program ran by a non-profit. I can feel people's stress-levels rising... We are already fighting each other over DEI... Divide and Conquer... Be patient with each other, assume best intentions, lead with kindness and direct your hate and resistance in the right direction... Sounds easy but it really is a practice...
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This is the core of it all.  Finding common ground with all of your fellow citizens and realising you're all viewed as expendable fuel to feed the greed machine.

But...The Greed Machine is Freedom! The Greed Machine will make my enemies suffer!
If I should end up suffering, it's not The Greed Machine's fault!
People like YOU are interfering with The Greed Machine's glorious work!
Enemies of The Greed Machine aren't true Americans!
They aren't even human beings, they're VERMIN!
What do we do with VERMIN?!
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: yghartsyrt on January 24, 2025, 02:18:22 PM
i agree with you, @EdLawndale & @GnarAlarm – even though voting wouldn't change the system in its core, but this time it was to prevent the worst case scenario. the current outcome is a so many times worse than a Kamala administration could have ever been. The discussion not to vote is quite a privileged one to have.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: EdLawndale on January 24, 2025, 02:54:47 PM
Yeah, never any bad feelings btwn IUTSM and I, as far as I'm concerned.

But I'm still a little perplexed why one wouldn't place as significant an amount of importance on the act of voting as one puts on grass roots outreach to serve those in need in a community.

They don't have to be mutually exclusive; they work in tandem. The effect of community outreach is almost certainly more impactful when you have support from the government, through grants and subsidies and so forth.

And the way that you get that kind of support from the government is by ensuring that politicians who advocate for such community outreach are put into positions of power where they can be decision-makers who have control over the budget (not to mention official stances towards groups of ppl on the city, state and Federal level).

And the way that you get politicians who advocate for community outreach and other progressive social justice reform programs into power is by voting them into office.

I mean, it's not just financial support/backing. It's issuing permits for community events, it's allowing research depts to be built and function, giving ppl the freedom to identify how they want to, love who they desire to love, not criminalizing and intimidating folks for just existing, putting enhancements on hate crimes, etc.

These factors all contribute to the underlying causes of the necessary community outreach in the first place.

Shit, even if the politicians don't actually give a fuck about the under-served in the community but just want to extend funding for the look and to hold up the appearance of giving a fuck, like they're that lady in "Veep" or something...I'll take that over some asshole telling me "Fuck you" to my face and cutting funding and witholding aid with conditions and villainizing marginalized communities because he represents a bunch of other assholes. I'll take the former over the latter any day of the week.

So why make things harder for ourselves? The people you speak of might not be as powerless as you claim; Most American citizens at least have the power to vote.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: h00man on January 24, 2025, 02:56:33 PM
as stated before, anyone trying to stock up on skate supplies before possible tariffs thatʻll affect the industry?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: EdLawndale on January 24, 2025, 03:27:54 PM
I don't generally conduct polls for rhetorical questions, no.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: augustmoon on January 25, 2025, 05:01:59 AM
Taking it lying down like a bitch isn’t helping either, fuck the defeatist attitudes and apathy on display in here. Vote at the bare minimum, go out and talk to people and organize in real life, “touch grass” as one would put it.

Or just take it lying down like a fucking pussy, do you then.


Cool man, just vote harder next time i guess. That will surely fix things.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on January 25, 2025, 11:31:09 AM
End of Week 1

On top of things already listed in this thread, Donny Don't's minions or Trump Jung Un's comrades have:

Pushed the Senate to confirm Pete Hegseth our domestic violence, sexual assault/likely rapy, alcoholic, veteran NGO money stealing, "theocratic," Fox News host whose own mom called him out as an abuser of women as the head of the DoD.
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5017946-pentagon-pick-hegseth-misconduct/

Threatened FEMA's existence
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-will-sign-executive-order-fundamentally-change-or-get-rid-fema-2025-01-24/

Empowered non-federal officials to act as federal immigration officers.

Repealed a Biden order requiring planning for the effects of climate change on world migration patterns.

Decided he hated USMCA/NAFTA 2.0, you know the agreement that he negotiated

Threatened a 25% tariff on Canadian and Mexican goods. Threatened 10% to 60% on China. 

Ordered to reduce fentanyl imports via tariffs

After claiming how bad TikTok was a few years ago, he invited TikTok CEO to inauguration and wants to be seen as the app's savior.

Pushed directive that no government employee can encourage social media sites to police misinformation or disinformation. (lol, i love these two next to one another, no employee can do it because Trump will just tell the CEOs himself)

Declared national emergency so gov can more easily claim/steal land to produce things he wants produced

Ordered gov to ignore regulations for so they can rush the permitting of land for energy resources. Note: Prior to Trump coming into office, the USA was already producing more oil than it ever has and gas prices already retreated and oil companies don't want the price to go lower. This is fucking stupid.

Eliminated any rules that might prevent us using energy that does not pollute (except for hydro because at least hydro sometimes hurts animals and fish, so that makes it ok).

Undid Biden's executive order that was meant to at least understand the financial risk of not addressing climate change.

Gave a big fuck you Alaska's nature as all suspension of oil extraction from Arctic National Wildlife Refuge is void.

Denied sacred site in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.

Denying all off-shore wind energy permits. If there is anything Trump hates its energy that doesn't pollute like crazy.

As we already know, put all DEI workers in government on leave, including those working on environmental justice.

Repealed Biden LGBTQ orders.

Declared that there are only two genders. lol, this one was written so badly, it could be interpreted that Trump declared all humans women. The inability to understand sex and gender is amazing. And the inability to understand some people are born inter-sex is astounding as well.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-trans-ban-defines-everyone-183900371.html

Establish "Department" of memes with the kek lord Egon in charge as Vivek the brown man has already been given the boot.

Froze federal hiring, except for (anti)immigration employees.

5 day RTO for all federal workers (dumb and wasteful policy that is meant to encourage people to quit).

All people directly under Trump are NOT being hired via MERIT (as they discuss with anti-DEI policies as if DEI is 1980s affirmative action, it is just window dressing to begin with), but those under Trump are being tested on loyalty. "Who won the 2020 election?"

Undo Biden orders that made it easier to enroll in medicare, obtain insurance, and get lower prescription drug prices. He can't undo all of them as some of these rules were actual laws passed by congress.

Undo Biden directives on Covid

Threatened Denmark over Greenland.

Sent Rubio to follow up on his Panama Canal threats. (I thought people voted for Trump cause they were tired of war?)

Threatened Canada. (As a dual passport holder, fuck you. South Park jokes can be funny, but this is not funny.)

Paused all foreign aid (and reduce America's soft power around the world. Foreign aid is part of the reason we get to write other countries' laws)

Granted security clearances to aides who haven't passed the security clearance / background check.

Took away security clearances from people he doesn't like (lol, granting it to those who might not pass a background check, but taking it away from those who had, this is good for America.)

Trump's personal design standards for our government buildings. (I'm mixed on this, cool government buildings would be cool, but Trump's taste is awful and I know our diplomats often take pride in are boring ass buildings because it shows we aren't here for bribes or to enrich ourselves, but to get shit done. Unlike say the Russians who love conspicuous shows of wealth and looooove being bribed.)

Trying to murder the 37 people Biden saved from the death penalty, by seeing if he can convince the state to kill them instead.

Making sure all states have the drugs need for the government to kill people in prisons (the death penalty is marked a homicide on death certificates)

Directed states to pursue the death penalty as often as possible

Revoked security from Fauci, Pompeo, and others. 

And, even though it is already mentioned, fucking pardoned and commuted nearly all the Jan 6th rioters including leaders of groups that--people are saying--are becoming domestic terrorist groups.

And, as already mentioned, increased his personal wealth by 50 billion by producing a meme coin. The wealth he actually had from real estate and TV and such is around 1.4 billion, his stupid truth social stock is worth a few billion, and his meme coin that was created days ago, is worth 10x all of this.

It is very very sad that America has elected someone who is known piece of shit and was mentored by Sen. McCarthy's lawyer.
https://www.britannica.com/biography/Roy-Cohn


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Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on January 25, 2025, 12:00:51 PM
You know about the movie The Apprentice that just came out?


Also, not sure if I missed it, but obviously Cuba got put back on the Terrorist Watch List
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on January 25, 2025, 01:03:54 PM
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-fires-least-12-independent-inspectors-general-washington-post-reports-2025-01-25/

https://www.axios.com/2025/01/25/trump-israel-bomb-shipment-hold-gaza
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Top-Heavy Hookjaw on January 25, 2025, 03:23:34 PM
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-fires-least-12-independent-inspectors-general-washington-post-reports-2025-01-25/

https://www.axios.com/2025/01/25/trump-israel-bomb-shipment-hold-gaza

Everyone knows Trump wants to develop Gaza and annex the West Bank because “it’s such beautiful land.”
The current munitions the IOF are using must not be destructive enough.

Ana Dammi Falastini ✌️
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: augustmoon on January 25, 2025, 04:47:12 PM
Just saw a Reddit thread from a VA hospital employee stating that VA police were going to various departments questioning employees about “DEI materials” and removing anything they found that they deemed questionable.

There are lots of replies from employees at other locations saying that they experienced the same, and that they are encouraged to “snitch” on others.  Examples of “DEI materials” included flyers for MLK day.

I’d assume this going on across other agencies and will escalate. 

Be prepared for what’s coming.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on January 25, 2025, 05:45:46 PM
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trumps-anti-dei-order-yanks-air-force-video-first-black-pilots-2025-01-25/
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Too Frank To Fred on January 25, 2025, 06:06:41 PM
Interesting take on this second Trump term and what resistance is looking like so far. Some good commentary also,

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/25/magazine/trump-hyperpolitics-resistance.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/25/magazine/trump-hyperpolitics-resistance.html)
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Too Frank To Fred on January 25, 2025, 06:22:10 PM
here's the article. unfortunately, can't copy the comments as they were pretty enlightening... bear in mind this is very mainstream 'liberal' definition of, and perspective on 'resistance' but still.... 

By Ross Barkan
Jan. 25, 2025
"When Donald Trump was inaugurated as the 47th president of the United States, it was too cold to go outside. An arctic chill had enveloped much of the country, and Trump, this time, joined history in the Capitol Rotunda. Thousands of supporters huddled in a nearby arena to watch him address the nation on a screen; there was no outdoor parade. The streets were mostly empty of his critics, and the weather could be blamed for that as well.

But if Washington had been so frigid eight years ago, it’s easy to imagine that liberals would have been willing to risk frostbite. Trump’s first inauguration, in 2017, was countered by the Women’s March, which brought nearly 500,000 people to Washington alone, making fleeting icons out of its chief organizers and standing, at the time, as the largest single day of mass protest in American history.

Trump was a crisis and an obsession back then, and the “resistance” to his administration represented the high-water mark for a certain kind of liberalism: one that was sincere and totalizing, full of fury and a thirst for action. Almost every Democrat, from the ex-presidents to the junior staffers, had a blockbuster opinion on how Trump won, why Hillary Clinton failed and where the party had to migrate. They meted out blame: James Comey, the Russians, Bernie Sanders, Jill Stein, the white working class. Every Democrat seemed to have a plan for resisting Trump, too — for ensuring his presidency would never have the patina of normalcy.

Just a few months into Trump’s presidency, Al Green, a representative from Texas, called for his impeachment, and rank-and-file Democrats reveled in the speed at which the new, incendiary president might be undone. Not a day went by, it seemed, when there wasn’t a mass march or calls for a fresh demonstration. Twitter and Instagram were hothouses for anti-Trump activism. Causes were minted quickly: standing up for immigrants (which morphed into the drive to abolish Immigration and Customs Enforcement), or defending women (which fueled the Women’s March and, later, #MeToo), or sustaining Black Lives Matter (which reached its apogee after George Floyd was killed in 2020).
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The 2010s resistance to Trump — that sprawling, seemingly irrepressible mass movement that joined everyone from Bush Republicans to Bernie socialists — was like little else in the modern era. It seems even more remarkable in retrospect than it did at the time. This was a period during which there was debate over whether Sarah Huckabee Sanders, Trump’s press secretary, should even be served at a restaurant.

The Trump movement could be equally fervent. There were obvious policy components that attracted his supporters — nativism, protectionism, railing against elites — and Trump was wise enough to jettison unpopular parts of the old Republican platform, like slashing Social Security and waging new wars overseas. But much of his appeal is personal; to be MAGA is almost to inhabit an identity category. Ardently following Trump can mean caring, suddenly, about all his particular predilections and mounting a fight against the enemy wherever possible — in product boycotts or on street corners, on social media or in NASCAR chants, in school board meetings or at election sites.

There is a term, coined by the leftist writer and academic Anton Jäger, to describe this era: hyperpolitics. It denotes the period between the mid-2010s and the early 2020s, when politics engorged much of the public discourse. This was the moment of all-encompassing, high-stakes political stances, in which people looked out to see good always fighting evil — the far right taking up its tiki torches or antifa roving the streets — and culture turned into a perpetual tinderbox. It was, at times, a performance art, and notably mimetic. Its MAGA caps and pussy hats belonged to the same lineage of letting absolute strangers know exactly what your values are.

In 2025, everything is different. The protests are relatively muted. Few Democrats talk about impeachment or sustain their alarm over incipient fascism, even with Elon Musk possibly gesticulating like a Nazi. For all the spectacle of Trump, this inauguration was, ultimately, a rather ordinary one.

Democrats do not seem as anguished or animated by this Trump Restoration as they were by his ascension; neither are they howling about their own party’s future. The left — looking up after eight years of resisting Trump and finding that in fact, he has expanded his vote share in each general election — is recalibrating. Some progressives have signaled their willingness to work with Trump if he embraces their policy aims, while centrists fret that the Republicans have outflanked them on too many cultural issues. Border policies that were decried as fascistic in Trump’s first term are gradually being embraced, or at least no longer resisted. The old discourse around the “normalization” of Trump is dead; businesses that once stood at a remove from Trump giddily treat him as an ordinary president now.
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Republicans, for their part, are still engrossed by Trump, but even their politics feel more muted — at least compared with the 2010s ascendance of the alt-right, back when Milo Yiannopoulos was preening for the cameras. As the Republican coalition has expanded, it has found it harder to hold onto its spirit of righteous insurgency. Americans are no less polarized now. But the sense that the political was entirely personal, that performing politics was vital, seems to be fading. We are exiting the era of hyperpolitics.

All flames — even the hottest and most spectacular — eventually burn out.

Perhaps the most important way to understand the causes that dominated the hyperpolitical era is that they each, in their own ways, could be seen in Manichaean terms. They were moralistic; they possessed heroes and villains. Chief among them was the struggle against Trump, which was framed first and foremost as a struggle against fascism. In the early days of 2017, there was fear over what Trump might do to the country, but this fear mingled with a certain thrill: Those resisting him could feel they were making history, taking up a cause as heroic as the last century’s antifascists had.

To be on one side and against the other was to be consumed with a style of activism that demanded righteousness. Fervor was the currency and “moral clarity” the catchword. Nuance was discarded; against Trump, the world-historical menace, who had time for it? By 2020, stopping Trump was the overriding theme of the election, with the pandemic as the inescapable backdrop. In that same year came the killing of Floyd, triggering the largest mass protests in American history.

Conservatives, too, mobilized fully on the cultural terrain, fighting over school curriculums and library contents, bashing any corporation that seemed too socially liberal, treating the consumption of ivermectin as a form of political resistance.

But those same pathologies did not take over the 2024 presidential election. It had its culture-war fodder and circumstantial peculiarity — the 11th-hour Kamala Harris ascension, Trump’s third straight nomination — but in the end it proved rather ordinary. Its discourse was dominated by inflation, immigration and even trade policy. Some post-election analyses homed in on cultural issues, especially Trump’s attack on trans rights, but the consensus, in the end, was that the electorate had cared more about material concerns, like the cost of living or the state of the southern border.
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Now that it’s done, with relatively few on the left genuinely shocked by Trump’s win, accommodation and acceptance are the new watchwords. There is chatter about deal making, whether it’s from Gretchen Whitmer, the Michigan governor who is a probable 2028 candidate, or Senator Elizabeth Warren, the Massachusetts progressive who was a leading light of the 2010s resistance. (Senate Democrats who said similar things in 2016 tended to be drowned out by those promising resistance.) Hardly anyone is being tagged as a fascist collaborator for openly musing on how to work with the second Trump administration; the old psychology around complicity, from back when visiting the White House could be equated to lunching with Goebbels, has melted away.

It’s remarkable, in fact, that despite all its fervor, the era of hyperpolitics did not leave behind much that was durable. Many of its leaders have fallen out of public view; there is no equivalent of a 1960s “civil rights generation” to carry the work forward. Black Lives Matter and the Women’s March do not stand, in 2025, as well-wired, fully functioning political organizations, able to organize mass marches at a moment’s notice.

In that hyperpolitical time, Jäger wrote, very few people were “involved in the sort of organized conflicts of interests that we would once have described, in a classical, 20th-century sense, as ‘politics.’” There were arguments about morality, not policy or governance. There was talk of expanding the welfare stare, certainly, but Sanders’s Medicare for All was not at the heart of these fights, nor was rolling back globalization, as with the 1999 protests against the World Trade Organization. The hyperpolitical left wasn’t even reliably excited by the Biden administration’s concrete actions — its industrial policy or its tranches of cash for roads, bridges and public transportation.

The drama surrounding antifascism faded; now it can seem tired and alarmist to warn that Trump will end free elections. Another standard reflex, under hyperpolitics, was to attribute much of Trump’s popularity to racism, but that argument has struggled to sustain itself: Trump has, in each successive general election, increased his vote share with nonwhite working-class voters, flipping majority-Latino counties, attracting far more Asian voters and even making inroads with Black men.

The corporations and politicians that once paid lip service to the values of alarmed liberals now feel free to reverse course. Mark Zuckerberg, the chief executive of Meta, went on Joe Rogan’s show to express his desire for a corporate culture that celebrates masculinity and “aggression.” After the election, the Massachusetts Democrat Seth Moulton reacted to the clash over trans rights — which Trump’s campaign appeared to successfully exploit — by declaring that he didn’t want his daughters “getting run over on a playing field by a male or formerly male athlete.” He was, of course, condemned by some. But the backlash he faced was nothing akin to what he might have encountered a few years ago. The activist energy has leaked away.
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The lack of grandiose rancor between Trump and the Democrats may also be manifesting within the party itself. Remarkably, there is little outward agonizing over what comes next, and what the party should resemble in the coming years. The Democratic National Committee will be the locus of opposition to Trump and chart the party’s future, but the contest for its chair has, to the surprise of many, been tame. It pits Ben Wikler, the chair of the Wisconsin Democratic Party, against Ken Martin, the chair of the Minnesota Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party. The two have much in common and few ideological disagreements. They clash on mechanics and how beholden they might be to national consultants or other state party chairs. Otherwise, beyond their ages and home states, it is difficult to tell them apart.

Such a tepid matchup is another thing that would have been unimaginable eight years ago. Back then, Keith Ellison, a congressman and Sanders acolyte, was in a seismic struggle with Tom Perez, a former Obama administration official, for leadership. Each side spoke of the existential. It was time to save the country, which meant the ideological direction of the party was freighted with importance: Would Democrats embrace uncompromising progressivism or establishmentarian liberalism? Try to reach working-class voters by railing against corporate power, or dominate the suburban vote as the party of conventionality? Across Trump’s first term, we saw an internecine war that boiled down to an argument on how best to defeat Trump himself. This was the shadow that hung over the 2020 presidential race and the upstart primaries that brought leftist superstars like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez into the public eye.

Ken v. Ben lacks those kinds of stakes, barely captivating the 450-odd D.N.C. members who will actually decide the outcome. Despite a clear sense that the habits of the last era have failed the party, some of them seem hard for Democrats to kick. Wikler recently posted on X that he would lift up the Democratic Party’s “full coalition,” checking off “Black, Latino, Native, AANHPI, LGBTQ, Youth, Interfaith, Ethnic, Rural, Veteran, and Disability representation.” It was a throwback to a kind of politics that soothed Democrats throughout the 2010s but could not halt the progression of the Trump right — the kind of identitarian inclusiveness that does more on a moral, symbolic, hyperpolitical level than it does to offer anything of political substance to the groups in question. Perhaps it was comforting to some, but for voters — and those who couldn’t decode every abbreviation or wondered why the “interfaith” were their own subset of the coalition — it was surely perplexing.

What lies ahead, it seems, is a cooling, characterized less by dejection than by a sober realization that whatever was tried before simply didn’t work. It is challenging, after all, to maintain a perpetual state of alarm and tell voters that every election might be the last one. The anti-Trump resistance, on its own terms, was a failure. Trump is here, yet again, and he’s a popular vote champion this time.

What comes next might be a more conventional politics — one still grounded in resistance, but perhaps of a quieter type. When Trump signed his executive order to end birthright citizenship, the governors and attorneys general of more than 20 states sued to stop him. Mass protest wasn’t required, nor were calls for a fresh antifascist movement. The work was merely done. Democrats seemed to be saying, implicitly, that this was enough: action without performance.

The cyclical nature of American politics promises that even Trump’s moment in the sun will last only so long. If he stumbles, 2026 may see more Democrats in Congress and an end to the G.O.P.’s ability to pass significant legislation. What is probably not soon returning, regardless, is the white-hot activism of the last decade. Politics will be the static, crackling in the background. It won’t be everything, anymore."
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on January 25, 2025, 08:21:07 PM
The Russificiation of our government continues:

Trump Jung Un has purged independent officials assigned to root out mismanagement and illegal acts in the US government. This is not normal.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-defends-dismissal-dozen-federal-005119638.html

The thought police is coming in strong, even mentioning Black people's or women's accomplishments is illegal. 
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trumps-anti-dei-order-yanks-air-force-video-first-black-pilots-2025-01-25/


As for the NYTimes article, I think author is right that it isn't just Trump this time, BUT then again, I don't think the voter fully understood what was coming. And, for the centrists and liberals, I think there is/was a belief that we lived through it once, we can do it again. There isn't a lack of dismay, there is oversupply of confidence this time around. Confidence that the system will push back, forgetting that people make up the system.

And, yea, I think a lot of Kalama's loss can be explained away via inflation and anti-immigrant sentiment, but pretending the election wasn't about culture wars is a weird ass thing to say considering one of Trump's strongest ads was "Kalama is for they/them, Trump is for you" and the debate over trans-athletes was central despite the fact that out of the 500,000 NCAA athletes, there are only 10 trans athletes. This is .002% of NCAA athletes.

And, Trump/Vance weren't presenting their immigration position to the public by debating the number of immigrants or the number of people protecting the border, he was framing legal immigrants as evil savages who will steal and eat your dog.



https://www.kget.com/sports/ncaa-president-says-there-are-less-than-10-transgender-athletes-in-college-sports/
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Top-Heavy Hookjaw on January 26, 2025, 06:46:27 AM
https://www.npr.org/2025/01/26/g-s1-44831/trump-jordan-egypt-accept-more-refugees-just-clean-out-gaza

Spoken like a true “real estate developer”.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on January 26, 2025, 09:04:36 AM
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jan/26/neo-nazis-trump-extremism
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Sedition on January 26, 2025, 06:03:19 PM
So, we are now in a trade war with Columbia. If coffee is a million dollars tomorrow, there’s going to be problems.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Franksnose76 on January 27, 2025, 11:15:37 AM
This is in no way advocating for far right losers as it is for knowing your enemies.

(https://i.ibb.co/ZVmP3yX/the-pyramid-of-far-right-radicalization-v0-anjgey0qp4da1-2283383024.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ZVmP3yX)
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on January 27, 2025, 12:58:16 PM
So, we are now in a trade war with Columbia. If coffee is a million dollars tomorrow, there’s going to be problems.

Nope, they backed down and it got Eric crowing pretty hard on Twitter in a deleted post.   Mini Greek has it saved in his IG stories
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Franksnose76 on January 27, 2025, 01:02:44 PM
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This is in no way advocating for far right losers as it is for knowing your enemies.

(https://i.ibb.co/ZVmP3yX/the-pyramid-of-far-right-radicalization-v0-anjgey0qp4da1-2283383024.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ZVmP3yX)
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cool graphic but it's outdated/incorrect, especially in that 2nd tier. PB, III and anything remotely close are violent motherfuckers.
Yeesh, I didn't want to go in to any farther. Ughhhh they're all scum.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Franksnose76 on January 27, 2025, 02:00:15 PM
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This is in no way advocating for far right losers as it is for knowing your enemies.

(https://i.ibb.co/ZVmP3yX/the-pyramid-of-far-right-radicalization-v0-anjgey0qp4da1-2283383024.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ZVmP3yX)
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cool graphic but it's outdated/incorrect, especially in that 2nd tier. PB, III and anything remotely close are violent motherfuckers.
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Yeesh, I didn't want to go in to any farther. Ughhhh they're all scum.
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I mention it because it's about accountability. Last go round we heard all sorts of noise about these guys being somethign other than a violent street gang or militia group. There was a good amount of media coverage about PB not being a white supremacist group due to guys like Tario being in there.

I'm not implying that you are, Franksnose, but making excuses or toning it down regarding these groups is worse than dickheads excusing Musk and his Nazi salute in DC. Bet that one feels like cheese curds coming out of the dick in light of his speech with the German AFD fascists a few days ago.
For sure, the idea of hate groups are feeling emboldened from these dickheads Trumpf or Musk is sickening. I just didn't want anything popping up on my phone from far right groups
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on January 27, 2025, 09:40:28 PM
RFK

I'm curious how this nightmare will play out. His push against vaccines is moronic, his push for redirecting the NIH money towards homeopathic idiocy will be terrible, but his support for better nutrition and less processed food is good. And, letting adults make themselves sick with raw milk, well good for them. I hope they really feel like they're owning the libs while crouched on the bathroom floor battling diarrhea, stomach cramps, and vomiting.

I'm also curious to see how Republicans feel about their kids being forced to eat kale at school, they sure loved it when Michelle Obama encouraged schools to serve less disgusting food. Also, while I had thought school lunch was always complete trash, it was Reagan who encouraged a world where schools didn't make food but just brought in pre-made trash.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Coastal Fever on January 28, 2025, 11:11:20 AM
I spent the whole campaign doomscrolling and getting scolded by my s/o that I was worrying for nothing.  Now he’s in, I logged off for my own sanity, and she’s dooming over all the headlines and throwing crazy scenarios at me.  Can’t make this shit up.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Unkle Fleak on January 28, 2025, 12:06:25 PM
It was nice having a place again. Thanks pals
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: h00man on January 28, 2025, 12:25:23 PM
There's going to be a recession under Trump. Then, his rich elite friends are going to buy up shit for ridiculous sale prices.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on January 28, 2025, 01:36:59 PM
There's going to be a recession under Trump. Then, his rich elite friends are going to buy up shit for ridiculous sale prices.

He's trying to make it happen sooner than later.

The crack pot theories that Trump wants to crash the economy in order to starve people and make them rebel so he can enact the Insurrection Act, declare Martial Law, and use the military against the people and his enemies in order to stay in power keep seeming less and less like a crack pot theory.

Especially that a lot of his actions in the first week have had a lot of connection to Project 2025. Something he vehemently said he had no idea as to what it was.

Guess on the bright side is immigrats aren't eating cats anymore.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Franksnose76 on January 28, 2025, 03:04:24 PM
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There's going to be a recession under Trump. Then, his rich elite friends are going to buy up shit for ridiculous sale prices.
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He's trying to make it happen sooner than later.

The crack pot theories that Trump wants to crash the economy in order to starve people and make them rebel so he can enact the Insurrection Act, declare Martial Law, and use the military against the people and his enemies in order to stay in power keep seeming less and less like a crack pot theory.

Especially that a lot of his actions in the first week have had a lot of connection to Project 2025. Something he vehemently said he had no idea as to what it was.

Guess on the bright side is immigrats aren't eating cats anymore.
Hitler 2.0; before WW2 Germany I'm sure you saw cartoon wheelbarrow full of pennies for a loaf of bread and then the kaiser was usurped then Hitler brown shirts were to gain power, history is repeating itself and it's frightening. We all knew he was compromised by the kremlin in the mid to late 70's he's now being backed by what was our enemies.  I know I know you'll can kook me all to death whatever but the reality is quite evident just wait.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: SupremePizza on January 28, 2025, 03:40:41 PM
I spent the whole campaign doomscrolling and getting scolded by my s/o that I was worrying for nothing.  Now he’s in, I logged off for my own sanity, and she’s dooming over all the headlines and throwing crazy scenarios at me.  Can’t make this shit up.

Also going through this and trying to move forward. Just made my first firearm purchase today and plan to hit the range asap.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: augustmoon on January 28, 2025, 03:55:49 PM
I think all fed workers are about to be mass fired and I think something even bigger is going down after the Super Bowl. 

 Pack your bug out bag, put gas in your car, have cash on hand
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on January 28, 2025, 04:48:17 PM
I think all fed workers are about to be mass fired and I think something even bigger is going down after the Super Bowl. 

 Pack your bug out bag, put gas in your car, have cash on hand

Drop a tip to a news organization
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: fakie nollie on January 28, 2025, 04:54:16 PM
I think all fed workers are about to be mass fired and I think something even bigger is going down after the Super Bowl. 

 Pack your bug out bag, put gas in your car, have cash on hand

Yeah - meaning what?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: brycickle on January 28, 2025, 05:18:04 PM
There's going to be a recession under Trump. Then, his rich elite friends are going to buy up shit for ridiculous sale prices.

Why stop at a recession? If he gets what he wants and is actually somehow able have every illegal immigrant in the country deported, he will send this country in a tail spin into a full blown depression. I honestly don't know if him and his cronies either haven't thought of or don't care about the implications of what that plan would mean.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on January 28, 2025, 05:25:55 PM
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I think all fed workers are about to be mass fired and I think something even bigger is going down after the Super Bowl. 

 Pack your bug out bag, put gas in your car, have cash on hand
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Drop a tip to a news organization


Nm.  NY Times already dropped it:

The Trump administration offered federal workers a deal: resign in exchange for 8 months of pay. It is unclear if it is authorized to do that.

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on January 28, 2025, 05:27:38 PM
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There's going to be a recession under Trump. Then, his rich elite friends are going to buy up shit for ridiculous sale prices.
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Why stop at a recession? If he gets what he wants and is actually somehow able have every illegal immigrant in the country deported, he will send this country in a tail spin into a full blown depression. I honestly don't know if him and his cronies either haven't thought of or don't care about the implications of what that plan would mean.

Like when Reagan lowered taxes so much the government couldn’t afford to run (iirc) so he had quietly raise them again
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: pugmaster on January 28, 2025, 05:36:09 PM
No illegal immigrants contributing to the economy means they are not contributing at all tax-wise. You can expect the food, hospitality, farming, and construction industries to grind to a complete halt. Surely that will help the economy.

I'm cleaning out/refreshing my water stores to have enough for at least 2 months. Hopefully, the guardrails in place will keep things going. There is no way in hell I am starting a 401k right now. That is for damn sure.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: EdLawndale on January 28, 2025, 05:38:20 PM
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There's going to be a recession under Trump. Then, his rich elite friends are going to buy up shit for ridiculous sale prices.
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He's trying to make it happen sooner than later.

The crack pot theories that Trump wants to crash the economy in order to starve people and make them rebel so he can enact the Insurrection Act, declare Martial Law, and use the military against the people and his enemies in order to stay in power keep seeming less and less like a crack pot theory.

Especially that a lot of his actions in the first week have had a lot of connection to Project 2025. Something he vehemently said he had no idea as to what it was.

Guess on the bright side is immigrats aren't eating cats anymore.

Yeah, that's what he does:

Lie about things to convince those impressionable on the fence that he wouldn't do that, or he would do this, or he doesn't support this or he does support that -- just to get in power -- then he goes ahead and does the scuzzy shit and supports the scuzzy ppl that those of us who recognize him for the total P.O.S. he is knew in the first place he would do.

He thinks, so long as he wins, it's a good, honorable tactic. He has no qualms with lying to get what you want, so long as you get it. If you can do it -- if there are impressionable/uneducated ppl out there that you can fool -- if there is a way to game the system for your personal gain, even if it's deceitful and especially if it has little to no consequences -- then do it.

Same way he proudly boasted about gaming the tax system during his debate with Hilary Clinton in 2016. He said it shows he's smart. If he can fool the public to get what he wants, he considers that smart and something for which he should be applauded.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on January 28, 2025, 05:39:09 PM
Medicaid Frozen (with immediate backtrack, of "lol, just kidding, that was a mistake")
https://arstechnica.com/health/2025/01/states-say-theyve-been-shut-out-of-medicaid-amid-trump-funding-freeze/

HIV drug distribution around the world halted
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/27/health/pepfar-trump-freeze.html

Trans Military about to be kicked out
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/28/us/politics/trump-transgender-troops.html
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mongo Lloyd on January 28, 2025, 06:16:51 PM
Well, nearly everything I said in the Kamala thread is coming true.

It does not feel good to be able to say that.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Too Frank To Fred on January 28, 2025, 06:23:18 PM
Well I knew it was possible but didn't think it could happen this quick. Trump and his cronies have ordered our Federal funders (DHHS Family youth services bureau) to stop coordinating and communicating with us. One of the most successful youth Transitional Living Programs in the country (and many more I am sure) just got cut off. We might be fucked. Now is the time for Oregon, Multnomah County and Portland to step up. Buckle up and let's hope these lunatics loose steam before too much irreversible damage is done.

Pretty surreal to be in the position.... and I hate the word surreal.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: pugmaster on January 28, 2025, 06:32:41 PM
Holy hell, dude really is asking all federal workers to resign. This is getting dark in an extremely quick fashion.

 
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: sexualhelon on January 29, 2025, 06:16:55 AM
Man, what the hell is going on over there? The system has always been "vote for the lesser evil" therefore you're always going in the direction of evil. Trump's second term seems like a huge leap forward in that direction though - even more so than the first but I guess that set the groundwork.

I haven't lived there for almost a decade now and it's wild seeing what people are posting: warnings about ICE raids, federal funding freezes, inhumane deportations, etc... And to also see people defending it? Saying shit like, "if I trespass on someone's lawn, that's what I'd expect". Damn, so many brainwashed assholes.

I always thought one of the craziest things about this was that anyone with enough money could run for president, get elected, take office, and do these things? Where they just being "cordial" with each other before?

These next four years are gonna be rough. If the politicians don't get it together after this term and find a new Bernie - guessing he'll be too old or just wouldn't want to run anyway - we'll probably get someone even worse than Trump. I don't even know what "getting it together" means for politicians now. It seems like they don't really care as long as they can keep doing their insider trading and taking and super pac money (bribes, basically).
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Freelancevagrant on January 29, 2025, 09:38:29 AM
Get yourself a 3d printer.

https://fosscad.org/
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: companguero on January 29, 2025, 11:32:34 AM
Man, what the hell is going on over there? The system has always been "vote for the lesser evil" therefore you're always going in the direction of evil. Trump's second term seems like a huge leap forward in that direction though - even more so than the first but I guess that set the groundwork.

I haven't lived there for almost a decade now and it's wild seeing what people are posting: warnings about ICE raids, federal funding freezes, inhumane deportations, etc... And to also see people defending it? Saying shit like, "if I trespass on someone's lawn, that's what I'd expect". Damn, so many brainwashed assholes.

I always thought one of the craziest things about this was that anyone with enough money could run for president, get elected, take office, and do these things? Where they just being "cordial" with each other before?

These next four years are gonna be rough. If the politicians don't get it together after this term and find a new Bernie - guessing he'll be too old or just wouldn't want to run anyway - we'll probably get someone even worse than Trump. I don't even know what "getting it together" means for politicians now. It seems like they don't really care as long as they can keep doing their insider trading and taking and super pac money (bribes, basically).

We had a Bernie, DEMOCRATS preferred to vote for Hillary, Biden, and Kamala
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Unkle Fleak on January 29, 2025, 03:31:02 PM
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There's going to be a recession under Trump. Then, his rich elite friends are going to buy up shit for ridiculous sale prices.
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He's trying to make it happen sooner than later.

The crack pot theories that Trump wants to crash the economy in order to starve people and make them rebel so he can enact the Insurrection Act, declare Martial Law, and use the military against the people and his enemies in order to stay in power keep seeming less and less like a crack pot theory.

Especially that a lot of his actions in the first week have had a lot of connection to Project 2025. Something he vehemently said he had no idea as to what it was.

Guess on the bright side is immigrats aren't eating cats anymore.

Only gotta pay a convicted citizen 50 cents a week
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: pugmaster on January 29, 2025, 07:43:21 PM
Let's think about the positives. tRump signed an EO for the declassification of the JFK, MLK, and RFK files. Surely, he will declassify the Epstein files, right?

lol

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Marion Stoked on January 29, 2025, 08:03:03 PM
EO expanding gtmo (usa's favorite blacksite) to "full capacity" for detaining migrants.

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/01/29/trump-sign-order-prepare-guantanamo-bay-undocumented-immigrants-00201325


At this point I'm pretty convinced that authoritarianism is the answer for Fermi's paradox.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on January 29, 2025, 10:04:32 PM
Zuckerberg recently cried about the Democrats being mean to him by "pressuring" him to slightly limit the amount of misinformation floating around Facebook and IG during covid  :'(

Fucker just gave Trump 25 million dollars for a bullshit lawsuit
https://www.npr.org/2025/01/29/nx-s1-5279570/meta-trump-settlement-facebook-instagram-suspensions

After Trump threatened him with life in prison
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-threatens-mark-zuckerberg-with-prison-for-the-rest-of-his-life-if-he-uses-facebook-to-cheat-in-2024-we-are-watching-him-closely/ar-AA1pDXBb

Zuckerberg has always been a piece of shit, but his mini-Musk impression is weak. Zuckerberg probably would have beaten Musk in a fight, but he certainly looks like the bigger pussy, which is an accomplishment.
https://jacobin.com/2025/01/mark-zuckerberg-meta-trump-tech

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GTCCrePWYAAV4iQ?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: alien porkchop on January 30, 2025, 08:01:34 AM
No illegal immigrants contributing to the economy means they are not contributing at all tax-wise. You can expect the food, hospitality, farming, and construction industries to grind to a complete halt. Surely that will help the economy.

I'm cleaning out/refreshing my water stores to have enough for at least 2 months. Hopefully, the guardrails in place will keep things going. There is no way in hell I am starting a 401k right now. That is for damn sure.

this is factually incorrect. undocumented work results in payroll taxes being contributed by the employer. undocumented workers cannot get the refund other workers get, so the government keeps more, and undocumented workers can’t access the benefits the taxes pay for, so the government keeps even more.

https://calbudgetcenter.org/news/new-study-undocumented-immigrants-contribute-8-5-billion-in-california-taxes-a-year/
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: brycickle on January 30, 2025, 08:50:40 AM
EO expanding gtmo (usa's favorite blacksite) to "full capacity" for detaining migrants.

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/01/29/trump-sign-order-prepare-guantanamo-bay-undocumented-immigrants-00201325


At this point I'm pretty convinced that authoritarianism is the answer for Fermi's paradox.

Executive order 9066 is back!

/s
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: elisunday on January 30, 2025, 09:04:27 AM
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No illegal immigrants contributing to the economy means they are not contributing at all tax-wise. You can expect the food, hospitality, farming, and construction industries to grind to a complete halt. Surely that will help the economy.

I'm cleaning out/refreshing my water stores to have enough for at least 2 months. Hopefully, the guardrails in place will keep things going. There is no way in hell I am starting a 401k right now. That is for damn sure.
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this is factually incorrect. undocumented work results in payroll taxes being contributed by the employer. undocumented workers cannot get the refund other workers get, so the government keeps more, and undocumented workers can’t access the benefits the taxes pay for, so the government keeps even more.

https://calbudgetcenter.org/news/new-study-undocumented-immigrants-contribute-8-5-billion-in-california-taxes-a-year/

I believe you are reading this as if there is a comma after "No", when I think it's meant as:
{no contributions from illegal immigrants to the economy} will result in {no more tax money from them to support food, hospitality, etc.}
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on January 30, 2025, 09:56:15 AM
Not even 12 hours after the DC airlines crash and GOP and Trump are already blaming Obama and DEI.

Yeesh. I wish a reporter would've been like, "Is DEI in the room with us right now?"
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on January 30, 2025, 09:56:59 AM
Also, I wish Dems and reporters would start to "accidentally" keep referring to him as President Musk before correcting themselves. Just to drive him a bit more crazy.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on January 30, 2025, 10:08:57 AM
Not even 12 hours after the DC airlines crash and GOP and Trump are already blaming Obama and DEI.

Yeesh. I wish a reporter would've been like, "Is DEI in the room with us right now?"

Man the anti-DEI movement seems to really be code for, "Non-whites, non-asians, and LGBTQ are the cause of all problems. We believe they are inferior. We need to force them back down to the bottom of the socio-economic hierarchy and get white men back in those jobs."
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Steely Daniel on January 30, 2025, 11:07:15 AM
"It just could have been" fuck this guy so hard. I can't believe there are still Canadians who back this slimy goof. Embarrassing.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on January 30, 2025, 11:10:35 AM
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Not even 12 hours after the DC airlines crash and GOP and Trump are already blaming Obama and DEI.

Yeesh. I wish a reporter would've been like, "Is DEI in the room with us right now?"
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Man the anti-DEI movement seems to really be code for, "Non-whites, non-asians, and LGBTQ are the cause of all problems. We believe they are inferior. We need to force them back down to the bottom of the socio-economic hierarchy and get white men back in those jobs."

It's insane. DEI is just their covert way for the N-word now. Like calling Kamala a DEI hire. Someone with 20+ years as a DA, Attorney General, Senator, and VP is grossly unqualified because she's Indian (because those white folk said she can't be black).

Versus Trump who is white and had zero previous government experience.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Marion Stoked on January 30, 2025, 11:15:25 AM
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EO expanding gtmo (usa's favorite blacksite) to "full capacity" for detaining migrants.

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/01/29/trump-sign-order-prepare-guantanamo-bay-undocumented-immigrants-00201325


At this point I'm pretty convinced that authoritarianism is the answer for Fermi's paradox.
[close]

Executive order 9066 is back!

/s

(https://media1.tenor.com/m/3ApUIfK_MgAAAAAd/darth-sidious-order66.gif)
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: WashingtonNECKTIE on January 30, 2025, 01:14:21 PM
The fed agency I work at just sent an email that all of the training courses for EEO, Diversity, Whistleblower, Antidiscrimination, Harassment Prevention, etc, have been cancelled from the training portal.

One more step in making people ignorant and prejudiced
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: noxiousPond on January 30, 2025, 01:18:38 PM
Let's think about the positives. tRump signed an EO for the declassification of the JFK, MLK, and RFK files. Surely, he will declassify the Epstein files, right?

lol

This may sound absurd but I honestly think all these rich scumbags know this country is headed into the shitter and they’re milking all the money for themselves and he’s trying to incite riots. I refuse to believe he did that not knowing it’ll stir the pot some more. I think they want us all to rebel against them so they can further destroy us and reap all the money.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Fire Air Walk with Me on January 30, 2025, 01:27:41 PM
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Let's think about the positives. tRump signed an EO for the declassification of the JFK, MLK, and RFK files. Surely, he will declassify the Epstein files, right?

lol
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This may sound absurd but I honestly think all these rich scumbags know this country is headed into the shitter and they’re milking all the money for themselves and he’s trying to incite riots. I refuse to believe he did that not knowing it’ll stir the pot some more. I think they want us all to rebel against them so they can further destroy us and reap all the money.

100% smash n grab from Gilded rich scum
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Top-Heavy Hookjaw on January 30, 2025, 01:28:45 PM
Plane crash in DC that just happens to collide with an army chopper… I bet there was someone on that flight that knew too much about something damaging to the current administration.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on January 30, 2025, 02:15:38 PM
Reporter: Mr. President, how exactly was DEI responsible for the crash in DC?

Trump: What kind of helicopter was involved in the crash?

Reporter: DoD says it was a Black Hawk

Trump: There! If it was a White Hawk, there wouldn’t had been a crash.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: h00man on January 30, 2025, 02:42:52 PM
Just remember, people elected this dumbass
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on January 30, 2025, 03:36:11 PM
Just remember, people elected this dumbass

In some cases — twice
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Colin Robinson on January 30, 2025, 04:46:19 PM
Plane crash in DC that just happens to collide with an army chopper… I bet there was someone on that flight that knew too much about something damaging to the current administration.

It was a bunch of teenage ballerinas you mung
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on January 30, 2025, 05:10:18 PM
Holy hell, dude really is asking all federal workers to resign. This is getting dark in an extremely quick fashion.

So about this, there was a social media post offering if people resigned they’d get 3 months pay with no need to work correct? Does anyone actually believe that if they quit over a non official announcement that they’d REALLY get paid by the 2 worst offenders of ripping off their employees and contractors?
 
Yeah, muSk and tRump are totally going to make good on that…

As for Gitmo, muSk needs that forced labor to keep his costs down for his business. Why not use those ‘terrorists’ opps, I mean non whites. Don’t forget homelessness is going to be a crime soon and with tanking the economy, well, FREE LABOR!!!
God bless capitalism. Right?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: augustmoon on January 30, 2025, 06:03:58 PM
It was 8 months, but the whole thing looks super fishy. 

The email also includes lots of veiled threats to your job if you stay.  I think their next move is to go after the Fed union, then mass firing. Not sure what they’ll do to try to justify that as Fed jobs are protected after your probationary period, but we’ll see

They’re also having facillty cops go to the various departments looking for “DEI materials” and are encouraging employees to snitch on each other.  Seems like employees are banding together, so should be interesting to see what happens
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on January 30, 2025, 06:14:47 PM
Thanks for the correction and I’m glad to hear people are sticking together.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Rusty Shackleford on January 30, 2025, 07:40:22 PM
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Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: LUGR on January 30, 2025, 07:42:40 PM
It was 8 months, but the whole thing looks super fishy. 

The email also includes lots of veiled threats to your job if you stay.  I think their next move is to go after the Fed union, then mass firing. Not sure what they’ll do to try to justify that as Fed jobs are protected after your probationary period, but we’ll see

They’re also having facillty cops go to the various departments looking for “DEI materials” and are encouraging employees to snitch on each other.  Seems like employees are banding together, so should be interesting to see what happens

Also, heard the language used in the email was similar to near identical to the email sent out to Twitter employees after the buyout.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: alien porkchop on January 30, 2025, 08:21:40 PM
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No illegal immigrants contributing to the economy means they are not contributing at all tax-wise. You can expect the food, hospitality, farming, and construction industries to grind to a complete halt. Surely that will help the economy.

I'm cleaning out/refreshing my water stores to have enough for at least 2 months. Hopefully, the guardrails in place will keep things going. There is no way in hell I am starting a 401k right now. That is for damn sure.
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this is factually incorrect. undocumented work results in payroll taxes being contributed by the employer. undocumented workers cannot get the refund other workers get, so the government keeps more, and undocumented workers can’t access the benefits the taxes pay for, so the government keeps even more.

https://calbudgetcenter.org/news/new-study-undocumented-immigrants-contribute-8-5-billion-in-california-taxes-a-year/
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I believe you are reading this as if there is a comma after "No", when I think it's meant as:
{no contributions from illegal immigrants to the economy} will result in {no more tax money from them to support food, hospitality, etc.}

that makes sense. thanks for pointing this out. grammar is wild like that.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Marion Stoked on January 30, 2025, 10:17:55 PM
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It was 8 months, but the whole thing looks super fishy. 

The email also includes lots of veiled threats to your job if you stay.  I think their next move is to go after the Fed union, then mass firing. Not sure what they’ll do to try to justify that as Fed jobs are protected after your probationary period, but we’ll see

They’re also having facillty cops go to the various departments looking for “DEI materials” and are encouraging employees to snitch on each other.  Seems like employees are banding together, so should be interesting to see what happens
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Also, heard the language used in the email was similar to near identical to the email sent out to Twitter employees after the buyout
.

Read the same. Also, apparently there were unvetted servers plugged in at federal facilities to contact federal employees directly? Something about gathering emails addresses of federal employees...
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: KBizzle on January 30, 2025, 10:37:13 PM
Anyone taking medical advice from RFK needs Jesus.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Colin Robinson on January 31, 2025, 04:55:47 AM
Anyone taking medical advice from RFK needs lobotomized.

Fixed
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Rusty Shackleford on January 31, 2025, 07:19:58 AM
Anyone taking medical advice from RFK needs Jesus.

Jesus was too woke. Empathy is a sign of weakness
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: h00man on January 31, 2025, 12:29:39 PM
Anyone taking medical advice from RFK needs Jesus.

The people taking medical advice from RFK do have Jesus....

who also believe that Trump was sent here by Jesus....

My opinion: People taking medical advice from RFK should continue doing so....
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: h00man on January 31, 2025, 03:43:57 PM
MLK, Holocaust Remembrance, Pride, is being erased:

https://apnews.com/article/trump-holiday-mlk-day-pride-black-hispanic-dei-047bbdbfc12ea6e9a9731f5861d84e70

Remember, America voted for this...
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: noxiousPond on January 31, 2025, 04:25:16 PM
I’ve been lurking through this thread here and there. Is there anybody in this whole thread that’s pro trump?

I’m definitely not but I’m a little surprised it seems there is no one here riding trumps dick.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Colin Robinson on January 31, 2025, 04:44:20 PM
There's been one note trolls defending the orange cocksucker and they get banned immediately.

Oh and a second plane has fallen from the sky now:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DFgiSuPSK32/

Literally gotta be paranoid about a fucking plane falling on you and killing you now. We're living in fucking GTA: San Andreas.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Painted Baby on January 31, 2025, 05:08:19 PM
The world yo
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: h00man on January 31, 2025, 06:16:16 PM
another fucking crash wtf?!

Let's see what disrespect Trump will put on the victims and how he's going to blame everyone else....
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: radcunt on January 31, 2025, 06:50:34 PM
Why didn’t the dems run ads where it looks like a trump ad but all the policies were from hitler that they reveal at the end. Or vice versa, some black and white ad about the nazis but it’s all stuff trump is doing. Good way to possibly illustrate it to people who don’t care
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: botefdunn on January 31, 2025, 07:07:45 PM
I’ve been lurking through this thread here and there. Is there anybody in this whole thread that’s pro trump?

I’m definitely not but I’m a little surprised it seems there is no one here riding trumps dick.

I would imagine there are a relatively low number of trump supporters interested in a textbased, dialogue-heavy medium like a messageboard. He's an influencer, not a politician. His currency is emotive, kneejerk reactions, and his discourse is too inconsistent to really warrant analysis or discussion, I would even say it intentionally discourages these things.

I know a few redpill types, and all they do is post memes. The occasional time I've engaged them in conversation, they basically state their outrage and allegiance, then go silent.

I feel like anyone coming into this thread pro-trump would just throw a few insults, gloat a bit, and that's it. What else is there for them to say really.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Enrico Pallazzo on January 31, 2025, 07:19:33 PM
Why didn’t the dems run ads where it looks like a trump ad but all the policies were from hitler that they reveal at the end. Or vice versa, some black and white ad about the nazis but it’s all stuff trump is doing. Good way to possibly illustrate it to people who don’t care

Not sure if you’re being facetious but I’ll answer earnestly regardless. I think this was actually a huge misstep by the democrats in this most recent campaign - they spent too much time drawing the Trump Hitler parallels, calling him a fascist, a threat to democracy, etc. This hurt them in two major ways:

- Took their messaging away from what they were doing to help the average American (not much, but still slightly more than republicans) and made every dem talking point “Trump bad”. People are clearly sick of lesser of two evil voting, so if the only message you hear from one party is “yeah but the other guy”, you’re not gonna feel super inspired to go vote for them and tell your friends.

-Maybe more important, made them look disingenuous. If he’s really a threat to democracy, why aren’t the Dems treating him as such? Why stick so strongly to decorum and not just arrest the guy or eliminate any pathway for him to come back? Why debate him? Why talk about who’s running in 2028 if you don’t think there will be one if Trump gets elected? People saw him get elected once, heard all the comparisons to Hitler before, and then the democrats won and didn’t do anything about Trump for four years, so it makes them look like they’re just saying this shit instead of actually believing it.

I say this as someone who held my nose and voted D, but goddamn the democrats ate shit with their messaging in 2016, 2020, and 2024.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Chavo on January 31, 2025, 07:27:55 PM
My work (CA judicial branch) released some directive to not comply with warrantless searches from federal agents. Otherwise, the CA Supreme Court has been mostly conservative until recently and only complied with the bare minimum of the governor's DEI initiative. The only thing they can really do to us is storm the building and ask for our papers (which I assume will happen eventually).
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: noxiousPond on January 31, 2025, 07:39:08 PM
I’ll just leave this here. Dude is absolutely hilarious.

https://youtu.be/ANo8CbY4NYg?si=dnHf62v8NAHh8ivY
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: MusclesMarinara on January 31, 2025, 09:03:01 PM
another fucking crash wtf?!

Let's see what disrespect Trump will put on the victims and how he's going to blame everyone else....

Plane crash was a medical flight for a little girl who had just completed treatment at a children’s hospital in Philly. You guys trying to pin this or put some type of political spin on it are fucked. A little girl and countless other innocent people just lost their lives. Stop letting Trump live rent free in your fucking heads.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on January 31, 2025, 09:26:36 PM
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another fucking crash wtf?!

Let's see what disrespect Trump will put on the victims and how he's going to blame everyone else....
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Plane crash was a medical flight for a little girl who had just completed treatment at a children’s hospital in Philly. You guys trying to pin this or put some type of political spin on it are fucked. A little girl and countless other innocent people just lost their lives. Stop letting Trump live rent free in your fucking heads.


Trump was the one who made it political, fuck-o, by suggesting DEI hires within the FAA caused the first flight - and that includes people with physical disabilities like missing limbs or being little person
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: IWANNABEABIGDOG on February 01, 2025, 03:54:37 AM
(https://media3.giphy.com/media/h7poIVSJYrs323ZPuu/giphy.gif?cid=6c09b952saesypepcrogddcvbshpocw4wh661ai3craso6lw&ep=v1_internal_gif_by_id&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g)

He should eat boogers frfr
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: brycickle on February 01, 2025, 09:03:51 AM
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Anyone taking medical advice from RFK needs Jesus.
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Jesus was too woke. Empathy is a sign of weakness

Not GOP Jesus!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZ2L-R8NgrA
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on February 01, 2025, 11:34:33 AM
Let the union busting begin
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-moves-cancel-recent-union-agreements-with-federal-workers-2025-02-01/
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on February 01, 2025, 12:22:38 PM
Funny that the UAW was for Biden and his fight for unions and all the moron MAGATs who were in the UAW were for Trump. Now they’re going to have to live knowing they voted for a KNOWN union buster.

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Rusty Shackleford on February 01, 2025, 12:55:17 PM
https://aflcio.org/press/releases/afl-cio-president-trump-and-musk-are-greedy-bosses-laughing-workers-livestream

we were warned that these two were shitbags
I didn't think alot of the union guys would so readily vote against their own best interests but here we are
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: L33Tg33k on February 01, 2025, 01:02:52 PM
Funny that the UAW was for Biden and his fight for unions and all the moron MAGATs who were in the UAW were for Trump. Now they’re going to have to live knowing they voted for a KNOWN union buster.
They’re not going to blame Trump for union busting. Somehow it’ll be Obama’s fault.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: myfeetarekillingme on February 01, 2025, 01:57:03 PM
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Funny that the UAW was for Biden and his fight for unions and all the moron MAGATs who were in the UAW were for Trump. Now they’re going to have to live knowing they voted for a KNOWN union buster.
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They’re not going to blame Trump for union busting. Somehow it’ll be Obama’s fault.

They’ve been voting against their own interests and blaming democrats/socialism for the outcome for 50 years. Ain’t shit gonna change and in fact it’s only gonna continue getting worse in our post truth society
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: noxiousPond on February 01, 2025, 03:03:49 PM
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Funny that the UAW was for Biden and his fight for unions and all the moron MAGATs who were in the UAW were for Trump. Now they’re going to have to live knowing they voted for a KNOWN union buster.
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They’re not going to blame Trump for union busting. Somehow it’ll be Obama’s fault.
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They’ve been voting against their own interests and blaming democrats/socialism for the outcome for 50 years. Ain’t shit gonna change and in fact it’s only gonna continue getting worse in our post truth society

I always find it so pathetic and hilarious when political people just blame the last president all the time. Yea as if 4 or 8 years really made that much of a difference vs the last 100+ years since the Industrial Revolution where capitalism and greed has slowly been destroying this country. It’s pathetic. It’s always the blame game with them. They wouldn’t k ow accountability if it fucked them in the ass.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: h00man on February 01, 2025, 08:07:24 PM
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another fucking crash wtf?!

Let's see what disrespect Trump will put on the victims and how he's going to blame everyone else....
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Plane crash was a medical flight for a little girl who had just completed treatment at a children’s hospital in Philly. You guys trying to pin this or put some type of political spin on it are fucked. A little girl and countless other innocent people just lost their lives. Stop letting Trump live rent free in your fucking heads.

maybe keep up with the news, moron.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on February 02, 2025, 01:28:50 AM
The tariffs and the counter tariffs begin.

One good idea that Canada had was to tariff Tesla at 100%. They need to do this and drop all BYD tariffs to zero. Musk is afraid of BYD and Canada and Europe dropping tariffs would be a huge threat to Musk.
https://globalnews.ca/news/10992959/donald-trump-tariffs-canada-feb-1/

Europe is next
https://www.politico.eu/article/donald-trump-trade-war-eu-tariffs-mexico-canada/

I imagine Xi and Putin and Ali Khamenei are all rock hard right now. They can't believe the coalition that has kept them in check is falling apart in front of them. This is the biggest gift we could give all the countries that hate us.

I wonder who will get free money this time? Probably none of us.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/14/donald-trump-coronavirus-farmer-bailouts-359932


Air safety also likely to improve. Less air traffic controllers is good, right?
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-admin-emails-air-traffic-controllers-quit-your-jobs/
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: backside_reacharound on February 02, 2025, 02:10:58 AM
https://www.thenerdreich.com/reboot-project-2025-peter-thiel-and-right-wing-san-francisco-2/

Fuck all of this, it's about time for the real ones amongst us to get brackin' here soon...
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: botefdunn on February 02, 2025, 02:57:04 AM
"In the yeeeear 25-25"
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: WashingtonNECKTIE on February 02, 2025, 12:16:10 PM
Muskrat now has access to US Treasury payment systems.

Fox is in the henhouse and the farmer was taken behind the shed
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: G raham on February 02, 2025, 03:16:53 PM
i believe trump says therell be inflation in the immediate future but whats the science on how tarrifs are for the greater good in the long run? explain it like im, say, a video game addicted 14 year old
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: pistachio on February 02, 2025, 08:29:54 PM
i believe trump says therell be inflation in the immediate future but whats the science on how tarrifs are for the greater good in the long run? explain it like im, say, a video game addicted 14 year old

Most economists urged against tariffs from the standpoint of them being a net negative. I’d tend to agree with skilled economists over the failed businessman turned weird politician that panders to the generally uneducated.

I believe Trump’s process here was to revert back to a pre-1913 era when income taxes didn’t exist and tariff taxes funded what income tax did. Not only is that absurd to assume that spending would equate to something like tax on all income, but the tariffs are set to begin on the 4th, yet as far as I know, there’s zero plan to prevent paying tax on my income, so it’s imbalanced in the short term and a “putting the cart before the horse” plan. This will likely result in higher prices with less disposable income, and it may negatively affect the job market as a whole.

Additionally, I think he claims that these tariffs will shift production back into the hands of Americans, but the reality there is that warehouses don’t get built overnight and they surely don’t get staffed overnight. Also, Americans aren’t really known for their proclivity towards cheap and fast labor, and with his conjunctive scorched earth policy on immigration, it may just end up with a bunch of empty warehouses and no employees to do the jobs—there’s a reason why Nike doesn’t stock Oregon with a bunch of warehouses and make all of their shoes in their own backyard.

Also, everything I just said only looks at the United States since that’s where these taxes will be paid. Likely, what these tariffs will additionally do is deconstruct a historical trade relationship that America has had with Canada—I haven’t looked into the trade agreements we’ve had with Mexico and China but I don’t think we were on great terms with China, maybe someone else knows better. I expect that Canadian purchasers will actively avoid American made products when they can, if for nothing else than principle, rightfully so. This means that as a country, we’ll probably sell fewer of the goods that we’re known to sell to Canada, further damming our economy. Trudeau has already urged Canadians to be strategic with their dollar and to avoid what’s clearly labeled as American-made, citing things like Florida orange juice and Kentucky bourbon, amongst others. It’ll also probably make the rest of the world view us as entitled little crybabies, again, rightfully so.

The obvious is that exports from Canada, Mexico, and China will now cost us more money, so I think both long and short term, you can expect to pay more for things like Modelo, lumber, steel, various fruits and vegetables, etc. There’s a chance that the companies themselves may shoulder this added cost in the beginning to prevent a loss of sales, but that only lasts for so long and I think as a whole, everyone has a pretty sour taste in their mouth about America and this choice, so I won’t be shocked if that sympathy doesn’t exist for American consumers or the company’s own sales.

In a study across 151 countries from the years 1963-2014, it was found “that tariff increases are associated with an economically and statistically sizeable and persistent decline in output growth. Thus, fears that the ongoing trade war may be costly for the world economy in terms of foregone output growth are justified.” (Here it is: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7255316/#:~:text=The%20findings%20suggest%20that%20tariffs,following%20an%20increase%20in%20protectionism.)

Another possibility that’s based on nothing other than me assuming the worst with the ultra-wealthy is that when the economy does take a shit, those with wealth can buy things up for pennies on the dollar. Think real estate companies buying property during the 2008 housing crash.

Ideally, we don’t need to consider the effects we may or may not have after four years, based on the hope that we don’t replace Trump with someone who’s as big of a megalomaniac or as immune to taking everything into consideration before a decision like he is.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on February 02, 2025, 08:51:13 PM
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i believe trump says therell be inflation in the immediate future but whats the science on how tarrifs are for the greater good in the long run? explain it like im, say, a video game addicted 14 year old
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Most economists urged against tariffs from the standpoint of them being a net negative. I’d tend to agree with skilled economists over the failed businessman turned weird politician that panders to the generally uneducated.

I believe Trump’s process here was to revert back to a pre-1913 era when income taxes didn’t exist and tariff taxes funded what income tax did. Not only is that absurd to assume that spending would equate to something like tax on all income, but the tariffs are set to begin on the 4th, yet as far as I know, there’s zero plan to prevent paying tax on my income, so it’s imbalanced in the short term and a “putting the cart before the horse” plan. This will likely result in higher prices with less disposable income, and it may negatively affect the job market as a whole.

Additionally, I think he claims that these tariffs will shift production back into the hands of Americans, but the reality there is that warehouses don’t get built overnight and they surely don’t get staffed overnight. Also, Americans aren’t really known for their proclivity towards cheap and fast labor, and with his conjunctive scorched earth policy on immigration, it may just end up with a bunch of empty warehouses and no employees to do the jobs—there’s a reason why Nike doesn’t stock Oregon with a bunch of warehouses and make all of their shoes in their own backyard.

Also, everything I just said only looks at the United States since that’s where these taxes will be paid. Likely, what these tariffs will additionally do is deconstruct a historical trade relationship that America has had with Canada—I haven’t looked into the trade agreements we’ve had with Mexico and China but I don’t think we were on great terms with China, maybe someone else knows better. I expect that Canadian purchasers will actively avoid American made products when they can, if for nothing else than principle, rightfully so. This means that as a country, we’ll probably sell fewer of the goods that we’re known to sell to Canada, further damming our economy. Trudeau has already urged Canadians to be strategic with their dollar and to avoid what’s clearly labeled as American-made, citing things like Florida orange juice and Kentucky bourbon, amongst others. It’ll also probably make the rest of the world view us as entitled little crybabies, again, rightfully so.

The obvious is that exports from Canada, Mexico, and China will now cost us more money, so I think both long and short term, you can expect to pay more for things like Modelo, lumber, steel, various fruits and vegetables, etc. There’s a chance that the companies themselves may shoulder this added cost in the beginning to prevent a loss of sales, but that only lasts for so long and I think as a whole, everyone has a pretty sour taste in their mouth about America and this choice, so I won’t be shocked if that sympathy doesn’t exist for American consumers or the company’s own sales.

In a study across 151 countries from the years 1963-2014, it was found “that tariff increases are associated with an economically and statistically sizeable and persistent decline in output growth. Thus, fears that the ongoing trade war may be costly for the world economy in terms of foregone output growth are justified.” (Here it is: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7255316/#:~:text=The%20findings%20suggest%20that%20tariffs,following%20an%20increase%20in%20protectionism.)

Another possibility that’s based on nothing other than me assuming the worst with the ultra-wealthy is that when the economy does take a shit, those with wealth can buy things up for pennies on the dollar. Think real estate companies buying property during the 2008 housing crash.

Ideally, we don’t need to consider the effects we may or may not have after four years, based on the hope that we don’t replace Trump with someone who’s as big of a megalomaniac or as immune to taking everything into consideration before a decision like he is.


Term 1 hero: Andrew Jackson
term 2 hero: William McKinley
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Too Frank To Fred on February 02, 2025, 09:55:48 PM
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/02/opinion/ezra-klein-podcast-trump-column-read.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/02/opinion/ezra-klein-podcast-trump-column-read.html)

If you want to understand the first few weeks of the second Trump administration, you should listen to what Steve Bannon told PBS’s “Frontline” in 2019:

Steve Bannon: The opposition party is the media. And the media can only, because they’re dumb and they’re lazy, they can only focus on one thing at a time. …

All we have to do is flood the zone. Every day we hit them with three things. They’ll bite on one, and we’ll get all of our stuff done. Bang, bang, bang. These guys will never — will never be able to recover. But we’ve got to start with muzzle velocity. So it’s got to start, and it’s got to hammer, and it’s got to —

Michael Kirk: What was the word?

Bannon: Muzzle velocity.
Muzzle velocity. Bannon’s insight here is real. Focus is the fundamental substance of democracy. It is particularly the substance of opposition. People largely learn of what the government is doing through the media — be it mainstream media or social media. If you overwhelm the media — if you give it too many places it needs to look, all at once, if you keep it moving from one thing to the next — no coherent opposition can emerge. It is hard to even think coherently.

Donald Trump’s first two weeks in the White House have followed Bannon’s strategy like a script. The flood is the point. The overwhelm is the point. The message wasn’t in any one executive order or announcement. It was in the cumulative effect of all of them. The sense that this is Trump’s country now. This is his government now. It follows his will. It does what he wants. If Trump tells the state to stop spending money, the money stops. If he says that birthright citizenship is over, it’s over.

Or so he wants you to think. In Trump’s first term, we were told: Don’t normalize him. In his second, the task is different: Don’t believe him.
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Trump knows the power of marketing. If you make people believe something is true, you make it likelier that it becomes true. Trump clawed his way back to great wealth by playing a fearsome billionaire on TV; he remade himself as a winner by refusing to admit he had ever lost. The American presidency is a limited office. But Trump has never wanted to be president, at least not as defined in Article II of the U.S. Constitution. He has always wanted to be king. His plan this time is to first play king on TV. If we believe he is already king, we will be likelier to let him govern as a king.

Don’t believe him. Trump has real powers — but they are the powers of the presidency. The pardon power is vast and unrestricted, and so he could pardon the Jan. 6 rioters. Federal security protection is under the discretion of the executive branch, and so he could remove it from Anthony Fauci and Mike Pompeo and John Bolton and Mark Milley and even Brian Hook, a largely unknown former State Department official under threat from Iran who donated time to Trump’s transition team. It was an act of astonishing cruelty and callousness from a man who nearly died by an assassin’s bullet — as much as anything ever has been, this, to me, was an X-ray of the smallness of Trump’s soul — but it was an act that was within his power.

But the president cannot rewrite the Constitution. Within days, the birthright citizenship order was frozen by a judge — a Reagan appointee — who told Trump’s lawyers, “I have difficulty understanding how a member of the bar would state unequivocally that this is a constitutional order. It just boggles my mind.” A judge froze the spending freeze before it was even scheduled to go into effect, and shortly thereafter, the Trump administration rescinded the order, in part to avoid the court case.

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What Bannon wanted — what the Trump administration wants — is to keep everything moving fast. Muzzle velocity, remember. If you’re always consumed by the next outrage, you can’t look closely at the last one. The impression of Trump’s power remains; the fact that he keeps stepping on rakes is missed. The projection of strength obscures the reality of weakness. Don’t believe him.

You could see this a few ways: Is Trump playing a part, making a bet or triggering a crisis? Those are the options. I am not certain he knows the answer. Trump has always been an improviser. But if you take it as calculated, here is the calculation: Perhaps this Supreme Court, stocked with his appointees, gives him powers no peacetime president has ever possessed. Perhaps all of this becomes legal now that he has asserted its legality. It is not impossible to imagine that bet paying off.
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But Trump’s odds are bad. So what if the bet fails and his arrogations of power are soundly rejected by the courts? Then comes the question of constitutional crisis: Does he ignore the court’s ruling? To do that would be to attempt a coup. I wonder if they have the stomach for it. The withdrawal of the Office of Management and Budget’s order to freeze spending suggests they don’t. Bravado aside, Trump’s political capital is thin. Both in his first and second terms, he has entered office with approval ratings below that of any president in the modern era. Gallup has Trump’s approval rating at 47 percent — about 10 points beneath Joe Biden’s in January 2021.

There is a reason Trump is doing all of this through executive orders rather than submitting these same directives as legislation to pass through Congress. A more powerful executive could persuade Congress to eliminate the spending he opposes or reform the civil service to give himself the powers of hiring and firing that he seeks. To write these changes into legislation would make them more durable and allow him to argue their merits in a more strategic way. Even if Trump’s aim is to bring the civil service to heel — to rid it of his opponents and turn it to his own ends — he would be better off arguing that he is simply trying to bring the high-performance management culture of Silicon Valley to the federal government. You never want a power grab to look like a power grab.

But Republicans have a three-seat edge in the House and a 53-seat majority in the Senate. Trump has done nothing to reach out to Democrats. If Trump tried to pass this agenda as legislation, it would most likely fail in the House, and it would certainly die before the filibuster in the Senate. And that would make Trump look weak. Trump does not want to look weak. He remembers John McCain humiliating him in his first term by casting the deciding vote against Obamacare repeal.

That is the tension at the heart of Trump’s whole strategy: Trump is acting like a king because he is too weak to govern like a president. He is trying to substitute perception for reality. He is hoping that perception then becomes reality. That can only happen if we believe him.

The flurry of activity is meant to suggest the existence of a plan. The Trump team wants it known that they’re ready this time. They will control events rather than be controlled by them. The closer you look, the less true that seems. They are scrambling and flailing already. They are leaking against one another already. We’ve learned, already, that the O.M.B. directive was drafted, reportedly, without the input or oversight of key Trump officials — “it didn’t go through the proper approval process,” an administration official told The Washington Post. For this to be the process and product of a signature initiative in the second week of a president’s second term is embarrassing.
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But it’s not just the O.M.B. directive. The Trump administration is waging an immediate war on the bureaucracy, trying to replace the “deep state” it believes hampered it in the first term. A big part of this project seems to have been outsourced to Elon Musk, who is bringing the tactics he used at Twitter to the federal government. He has longtime aides at the Office of Personnel Management, and the email sent to nearly all federal employees even reused the subject line of the email he sent to Twitter employees: “Fork in the Road.” Musk wants you to know it was him.

The email offers millions of civil servants a backdoor buyout: Agree to resign and in theory, at least, you can collect your paycheck and benefits until the end of September without doing any work. The Department of Government Efficiency account on X described it this way: “Take the vacation you always wanted, or just watch movies and chill, while receiving your full government pay and benefits.” The Washington Post reported that the email “blindsided” many in the Trump administration who would normally have consulted on a notice like that.

I suspect Musk thinks of the federal work force as a huge mass of woke ideologues. But most federal workers have very little to do with politics. About 16 percent of the federal work force is in health care. These are, for instance, nurses and doctors who work for the Veterans Affairs department. How many of them does Musk want to lose? What plans does the V.A. have for attracting and training their replacements? How quickly can he do it?

The Social Security Administration has more than 59,000 employees. Does Musk know which ones are essential to operations and unusually difficult to replace? One likely outcome of this scheme is that a lot of talented people who work in nonpolitical jobs and could make more elsewhere take the lengthy vacation and leave government services in tatters. Twitter worked poorly after Musk’s takeover, with more frequent outages and bugs, but its outages are not a national scandal. When V.A. health care degrades, it is. To have sprung this attack on the civil service so loudly and publicly and brazenly is to be assured of the blame if anything goes wrong.

What Trump wants you to see in all this activity is command. What is really in all this activity is chaos. They do not have some secret reservoir of focus and attention the rest of us do not. They have convinced themselves that speed and force is a strategy unto itself — that it is, in a sense, a replacement for a real strategy. Don’t believe them.
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I had a conversation a couple months ago with someone who knows how the federal government works about as well as anyone alive. I asked him what would worry him most if he saw Trump doing it. What he told me is that he would worry most if Trump went slowly. If he began his term by doing things that made him more popular and made his opposition weaker and more confused. If he tried to build strength for the midterms while slowly expanding his powers and chipping away at the deep state where it was weakest.

But he didn’t. And so the opposition to Trump, which seemed so listless after the election, is beginning to rouse itself.

There is a subreddit for federal employees where  one of the top posts reads: “This non ‘buyout’ really seems to have backfired. I’ll be honest, before that email went out, I was looking for any way to get out of this fresh hell. But now I am fired up to make these goons as frustrated as possible.” As I write this, it’s been upvoted more than 39,000 times and civil servant after civil servant is echoing the initial sentiment.

In Iowa this week, Democrats flipped a State Senate seat in a district that Trump won easily in 2024. The attempted spending freeze gave Democrats their voice back, as they zeroed in on the popular programs Trump had imperiled. Trump isn’t building support; he’s losing it. Trump isn’t fracturing his opposition; he’s uniting it.

This is the weakness of the strategy that Bannon proposed and Trump is following. It is a strategy that forces you into overreach. To keep the zone flooded, you have to keep acting, keep moving, keep creating new cycles of outrage or fear. You overwhelm yourself. And there’s only so much you can do through executive orders. Soon enough, you have to go beyond what you can actually do. And when you do that, you either trigger a constitutional crisis or you reveal your own weakness.
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Trump may not see his own fork in the road coming. He may believe he has the power he is claiming. That would be a mistake on his part — a self-deception that could doom his presidency. But the real threat is if he persuades the rest of us to believe he has power he does not have.

The first two weeks of Trump’s presidency have not shown his strength. He is trying to overwhelm you. He is trying to keep you off-balance. He is trying to persuade you of something that isn’t true. Don’t believe him.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Gnarfunkell on February 03, 2025, 06:23:52 AM
Just sitting here hoping I don't lose my job that I thoroughly enjoy especially because it helps regular people (federal aid grant peer review is what I do).

Some of the networks we need were taken down without warning and so now we're sort of just waiting in limbo.

Shit sucks.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Jim and Dan on February 03, 2025, 07:06:59 AM
"In the yeeeear 25-25"

You're pretty good lookin'!

But in all seriousness, none of this is lookin' good...
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Sincerity on February 03, 2025, 08:32:24 AM
Thank you for posting that transcript, Too Frank to Fred. It's a good reminder that chaos is their strategy. I've been feeling overwhelmed, which is what they want. I need to resolve not to be their victim.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: JoseCansnake0 on February 03, 2025, 10:00:00 AM
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another fucking crash wtf?!

Let's see what disrespect Trump will put on the victims and how he's going to blame everyone else....
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Plane crash was a medical flight for a little girl who had just completed treatment at a children’s hospital in Philly. You guys trying to pin this or put some type of political spin on it are fucked. A little girl and countless other innocent people just lost their lives. Stop letting Trump live rent free in your fucking heads.
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maybe keep up with the news, moron.

You are a such a tool. I think you need to stop watching the news, it's poising your head.

Also,
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: h00man on February 03, 2025, 12:06:40 PM
I’ve been lurking through this thread here and there. Is there anybody in this whole thread that’s pro trump?

I’m definitely not but I’m a little surprised it seems there is no one here riding trumps dick.

Yeah, this guy


You are a such a tool. I think you need to stop watching the news, it's poising your head.

Also,

I forgot you exist.


Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: JoseCansnake0 on February 03, 2025, 12:13:39 PM
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I’ve been lurking through this thread here and there. Is there anybody in this whole thread that’s pro trump?

I’m definitely not but I’m a little surprised it seems there is no one here riding trumps dick.
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Yeah, this guy

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You are a such a tool. I think you need to stop watching the news, it's poising your head.

Also,
[close]


I forgot you exist.

What makes this even more gratifying, is that you're dead wrong. i'm not a supporter in any way. i just think you're a kook and you need to be reminded of that on a skateboard forum

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: h00man on February 03, 2025, 12:54:18 PM
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I’ve been lurking through this thread here and there. Is there anybody in this whole thread that’s pro trump?

I’m definitely not but I’m a little surprised it seems there is no one here riding trumps dick.
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Yeah, this guy

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You are a such a tool. I think you need to stop watching the news, it's poising your head.

Also,
[close]


I forgot you exist.
[close]

What makes this even more gratifying, is that you're dead wrong. i'm not a supporter in any way. i just think you're a kook and you need to be reminded of that on a skateboard forum

whatever you say, Mr. Trump supporter.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Monolithic Flick on February 03, 2025, 03:30:38 PM
https://5calls.org/issue/elon-musk-opm-gsa-takeover/
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: augustmoon on February 03, 2025, 04:52:19 PM
Just sitting here hoping I don't lose my job that I thoroughly enjoy especially because it helps regular people (federal aid grant peer review is what I do).

Some of the networks we need were taken down without warning and so now we're sort of just waiting in limbo.

Shit sucks.

In a similar boat.  “Resign” emails are increasing daily and getting more threatening.  Management has their heads up their asses as usual.  Half expecting to see our parking garage blocked by cops when I get to work every morning.  Friday should be interesting. 

Fun times
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on February 03, 2025, 05:13:59 PM
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Just sitting here hoping I don't lose my job that I thoroughly enjoy especially because it helps regular people (federal aid grant peer review is what I do).

Some of the networks we need were taken down without warning and so now we're sort of just waiting in limbo.

Shit sucks.
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In a similar boat.  “Resign” emails are increasing daily and getting more threatening.  Management has their heads up their asses as usual.  Half expecting to see our parking garage blocked by cops when I get to work every morning.  Friday should be interesting. 

Fun times

I'm sorry you both have to deal with this shit. Government jobs often pay so little compared to private jobs, the trade is supposed to be a sense of accomplishment/of helping society and a bit of job security.

It sucks that Peter Thiels child demon's are out there trying to cut people's jobs.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Gnarfunkell on February 03, 2025, 05:29:50 PM
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Just sitting here hoping I don't lose my job that I thoroughly enjoy especially because it helps regular people (federal aid grant peer review is what I do).

Some of the networks we need were taken down without warning and so now we're sort of just waiting in limbo.

Shit sucks.
[close]

In a similar boat.  “Resign” emails are increasing daily and getting more threatening.  Management has their heads up their asses as usual.  Half expecting to see our parking garage blocked by cops when I get to work every morning.  Friday should be interesting. 

Fun times
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I'm sorry you both have to deal with this shit. Government jobs often pay so little compared to private jobs, the trade is supposed to be a sense of accomplishment/of helping society and a bit of job security.

It sucks that Peter Thiels child demon's are out there trying to cut people's jobs.

It's a mess really. Hoping some adults step to the table soon.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Rasmus on February 03, 2025, 05:34:13 PM
I'm kinda confused as to why we in Europe always hear about Americans needing weapons to defend the republic. Yet I don't see any militia reacting to the fact that a crazy billionaire is dismantling your state and gaining access he shouldn't have. Are those guns just for show? Then you might as well ban them, because they are pretty dangerous toys.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Coastal Fever on February 03, 2025, 05:52:48 PM
I'm kinda confused as to why we in Europe always hear about Americans needing weapons to defend the republic. Yet I don't see any militia reacting to the fact that a crazy billionaire is dismantling your state and gaining access he shouldn't have. Are those guns just for show? Then you might as well ban them, because they are pretty dangerous toys.

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Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: augustmoon on February 03, 2025, 06:12:03 PM
I'm kinda confused as to why we in Europe always hear about Americans needing weapons to defend the republic. Yet I don't see any militia reacting to the fact that a crazy billionaire is dismantling your state and gaining access he shouldn't have. Are those guns just for show? Then you might as well ban them, because they are pretty dangerous toys.

Because this is what those folks want to happen.  They don’t care about the constitution, they’re care about getting what they want.

And those guns aren’t to defend the republic.  They hate the republic.  Those guns are for other things.  Might be a good time to get one yourself and learn how to use it.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on February 03, 2025, 06:32:29 PM
Musk is trying to prosecute people for naming those helping his very stupid DOGE effort.
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/musk-trump-prosecutor-identities-doge-staff-1235255556/
https://www.wired.com/story/elon-musk-government-young-engineers/
https://www.yahoo.com/news/doge-musketeers-secret-team-elon-221351736.html

The people who have been named are:
Akash Bobba,
Edward Coristine,
Luke Farritor,
Gautier Cole Killian,
Gavin Kliger,
and Ethan Shaotran.

I don't know what America will look like in 4 years, but, even though Trump has immunity for his crimes as president, others, especially those in a non-government department pretending to be a government department, do not have immunity. From Musk to Patel to the rest of grifters, I'm hoping the next president and congress are documenting everything today, so we can see swift justice in 2029. No more slow walking cases like last time.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on February 03, 2025, 06:39:46 PM
A nation of morons in the making
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-advisers-weigh-plan-dismantle-department-education-wsj-reports-2025-02-03/
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: pugmaster on February 03, 2025, 08:53:19 PM
A nation of morons in the making
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-advisers-weigh-plan-dismantle-department-education-wsj-reports-2025-02-03/

This is a huge issue for me as well as tens of millions of Americans. I am waiting for the shoe to drop, but you can expect a huge public demonstration of educators and special educators if they mess with the DOE. HUGE demonstration. The war on public educators and special educators has been ridiculous and we will not tolerate it. Good fucking luck selling the public on why removing services for students with significant disabilities is an appropriate course of action unless he goes the eugenics route. To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if he did at this point.  If he chooses that route and people support him, I will lose my shit.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: skippersoldballs on February 03, 2025, 08:53:40 PM
What a little bitch
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: pugmaster on February 03, 2025, 09:16:10 PM
I refuse to pay for cable/TV, so I had no idea that today people were demonstrating. Many of my students were absent, to the degree where I started to figure out something was going on. I went to the person who keeps track of student attendance. She said the student absence rate was roughly 4X average. I didn't even ask the administration how many teachers/aids were out.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: m477 on February 03, 2025, 09:21:04 PM
As a parent, I don’t see the removal of the department of education as a big deal. If anything I see it as a bonus of less indoctrination on my kid.

There will still be schools (funded by the state tax payer dollars). And from my understanding if the doe is removed (please correct me if I’m wrong) there will still be federal funding in the form of vouchers. So on a state by state basis, you can choose based on your needs whether it be public or private.

From a highly involved parents perspective, this a win-win. If I like my public school I can go that route. If it’s performing poorly, the voucher can go towards private or special needs based.

I can’t believe that I’m alone in my experience that the public education system sucks and it seems like the more we spend doesn’t seem to help. And on another personal note, I volunteered at my kids public school (the best we could find in our area) from kindergarten through 3rd grade (until Covid effed things up) and one of the secretaries told me “it’s so great that you do this (volunteer). Everyone raves about the school but we have the same state requirements everyone else does… it’s parents like you that make a difference.”

Now I’m not trying to sound holier than thou, but it’s the truth. If our society wants smart respectable kids it comes down to the parents. Relying on the federal government will get us to….. well where we are.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: pugmaster on February 03, 2025, 09:33:30 PM
I am glad to hear that you had a positive experience. The state voucher system takes taxpayer funds and sends them to private schools. Private schools do not, most often, serve students with disabilities and especially those with significant disabilities. The IDEA was enacted for a reason and we are at the precipice of substantially undermining the quality of education of students with disabilities. Point. Blank. Period.

EDIT: The I.D.E.A. has NEVER BEEN FULLY FUNDED. Fun fact.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: pugmaster on February 03, 2025, 09:38:13 PM
I also want to say that your experience as a parent that the school experience has sucked regardless of funding is not 100% valid. Public education has been underfunded for decades. DECADES. DECADES!
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: pugmaster on February 03, 2025, 09:42:14 PM
As a parent, I don’t see the removal of the department of education as a big deal. If anything I see it as a bonus of less indoctrination on my kid.

There will still be schools (funded by the state tax payer dollars). And from my understanding if the doe is removed (please correct me if I’m wrong) there will still be federal funding in the form of vouchers. So on a state by state basis, you can choose based on your needs whether it be public or private.

From a highly involved parents perspective, this a win-win. If I like my public school I can go that route. If it’s performing poorly, the voucher can go towards private or special needs based.

I can’t believe that I’m alone in my experience that the public education system sucks and it seems like the more we spend doesn’t seem to help. And on another personal note, I volunteered at my kids public school (the best we could find in our area) from kindergarten through 3rd grade (until Covid effed things up) and one of the secretaries told me “it’s so great that you do this (volunteer). Everyone raves about the school but we have the same state requirements everyone else does… it’s parents like you that make a difference.”

Now I’m not trying to sound holier than thou, but it’s the truth. If our society wants smart respectable kids it comes down to the parents. Relying on the federal government will get us to….. well where we are.

I appreciate your insight and thank you for sharing. As a person that has been a part of public education from K-12 through college students, the DOE is important.

Students who require special ed are not served by the voucher system. Point blank period.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: m477 on February 03, 2025, 10:18:45 PM
I see that you're very passionate and I respect that. I'm here to learn and not push anyone over the edge or argue partisan politics. That being said, I guess what makes me so nonchalant about removing the DOE is that the US spends so much more on a per pupil basis but that money spent is not getting the results I'd expect.

According to this link, we spend much higher per pupil than many other nations:
https://nces.ed.gov/programs/coe/indicator/cmd/education-expenditures-by-country#:~:text=In%202019%2C%20the%20United%20States,in%20constant%202021%20U.S.%20dollars).

But the money spent does not equal higher results:
https://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=1

Am I misreading those statistics? I'm by no means an expert but over the past 15 years I keep seeing stats like those. More money dumped in with mediocre results. Again, from my perspective this is more about a cultural/family/parenting issue than a government spending issue. When individuals rely on the government to raise your kids, no amount of money will do the job. Lets say that I was in a different situation, I think I'd like the opportunity to use the voucher system for a private school to avoid my public offerings. I'm also hesitant to think that no state would not offer special needs assistance... am I naive in this assessment?



Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: ToySanta on February 03, 2025, 11:41:15 PM
From my understanding, private schools and charters and religious schools and vouchers are just white flight and redlining and racism and disability-discriminating under the guise of education. Taxpayer funded, without accountability to taxpayers as to what is being learned.

America may not see quality results for what we are paying per pupil but the cost is not to blame so much as the “let’s deregulate everything republicans” and their intent to punish the poor.

Private schools are about test scores & college placements. They are not about ensuring ALL students have equal access to a proper education. They are inherently discriminatory.

You think it’s a coincidence that the party banning and burning books in the present day is also the one looking to eliminate the Department of Education before the body of the president who signed it into existence is even that cold??
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on February 04, 2025, 12:15:54 AM
These fucking tariffs.

While still hanging over Canada's head, I don't get the fucking point. Trump got Canada to appoint a “fentanyl czar” and agree to launch a joint strike force to combat organized crime and money laundering. I'm pretty fucking sure, the USA could get Canada to do this with a friendly phone call. Other than to jerk off to other people's stress and make America look like shit, what was the fucking point?

I hope Canada is telling its businesses to look elsewhere for trading partners. I hope Canada bulks up their ports and stops looking south for any sort of partnership.
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Arizona has the biggest voucher program in the USA and the results are interesting. Charter schools dominate the list of best schools in the state, but they primarily seem to help those who were already doing fine.

The vouchers seem to be primarily subsidizing (wealthy) people who were already sending their kids to private schools. A 7K voucher towards a private school that costs 14K, leaves a 7K gap a lot of families can't fill. And, when vouchers are available, the schools often raise their prices. 

Private schools don't have to bus students around. It is a lot easier to get to school when the local high school offers to pick you up than it is when you need to get their yourself.

This all adds up to the higher the income the more likely a family is to use a voucher.
https://www.propublica.org/article/arizona-school-vouchers-esa-private-schools#:~:text=A%20typical%20voucher%20from%20Arizona's,tuition%20and%20fees%2C%20ProPublica%20found.

The vouchers are a strain on the state's budget. In AZ, self-sufficient neighborhoods pay for school via local property taxes, the state only steps in areas that aren't self-sufficient. This means places like Scottsdale (a wealthy suburb) would get no help from the state, but when a wealthy parent takes their kid out of the school and uses a voucher, the state now has to foot the bill.
https://www.propublica.org/article/arizona-school-vouchers-budget-meltdown

Not to mention, we as a society lose insight into whats going on in the schools. Private schools don't need make their performance metrics public.

Vouchers can be used an unaccredited schools. There is the issue of tax payer money going to religious institutions. This feels like a backdoor into further pushing religion via public money. And, the issue of grift and lack of accountability is scary.

American public schools have improvements that need to be made, and they can't undo all the problems someone faces at home. But, they can probably do better than a "school" in a shopping mall that no one is checking in on, doesn't provide transportation, doesn't provide lunches to poor kids, and doesn't have certified teachers.
(https://i.ibb.co/Wv5jtNzM/Screenshot-2025-02-04-at-12-55-38-AM.png)
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on February 04, 2025, 12:38:58 AM
Trump/Rubio Looking to Outsource Rural Jobs: Prisons
Interesting, El Salvador has offered to take in non-citizen and citizen prisoners for a fee. Rural white counties have lobbied to have prisons developed in their areas for decades as they are a steady source of income and jobs. Two weeks into office and Rubio and Trump are already part of the globalist cabal looking to outsource hard working American jobs.
https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/nation-politics/rubio-views-a-deportation-flight-in-panama-as-trump-prioritizes-an-immigration-crackdown/

Free Tax Filing For Middle and Lower Income America? Not in Musks America
Musk claims to have "deleted" (fired the engineers making the software?) the free tax filing software. Doesn't everyone have a team of accountants? Why would this be needed by anyone?
https://apnews.com/article/irs-direct-file-musk-18f-6a4dc35a92f9f29c310721af53f58b16

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: m477 on February 04, 2025, 01:47:25 AM
From my understanding, private schools and charters and religious schools and vouchers are just white flight and redlining and racism and disability-discriminating under the guise of education. Taxpayer funded, without accountability to taxpayers as to what is being learned.

America may not see quality results for what we are paying per pupil but the cost is not to blame so much as the “let’s deregulate everything republicans” and their intent to punish the poor.

Private schools are about test scores & college placements. They are not about ensuring ALL students have equal access to a proper education. They are inherently discriminatory.

You think it’s a coincidence that the party banning and burning books in the present day is also the one looking to eliminate the Department of Education before the body of the president who signed it into existence is even that cold??

From an average parent (I'm a mutt), I don't get the 'white flight, redlining, racism' perspective in 2025.  If my kid is in an environment that is not conducive to learning, (bad/lazy/uninspired teachers, no parent involvement, rowdy kids, etc) I would change school or home school immediately (regardless of school demographics). Children need to have respect & discipline in their life in order to successfully learn, this happens at home and at school. Some (most?) parents don't really care or think about this aspect and leave it in the hands of the government (not ideal). Growing up in the 80's and 90's I got the impression that most of my skate friends had parents like this... and they didn't turn out too well... some went to prison and some are dead (i'm sure everyone has similar unfortunate experiences).

There are definitely poor families of all races and economic backgrounds that raise well balanced children and I completely understand parents moving their kids to a school with a more structured environment. Why not give them the option of vouchers?

That being said, strictly moving away from a good school because they 'don't like those people' is a different story that I'm not familiar with. Maybe its because I'm in CA and in a diverse environment but I don't know anyone that wants to 'punish' the poor or other races or those with disabilities, and I doubt that that's the goal for eliminating the doe.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: m477 on February 04, 2025, 02:19:42 AM
Thank you for your input.

Arizona has the biggest voucher program in the USA and the results are interesting. Charter schools dominate the list of best schools in the state, but they primarily seem to help those who were already doing fine.

The vouchers seem to be primarily subsidizing (wealthy) people who were already sending their kids to private schools. A 7K voucher towards a private school that costs 14K, leaves a 7K gap a lot of families can't fill. And, when vouchers are available, the schools often raise their prices. 

Private schools don't have to bus students around. It is a lot easier to get to school when the local high school offers to pick you up than it is when you need to get their yourself.

This all adds up to the higher the income the more likely a family is to use a voucher.
https://www.propublica.org/article/arizona-school-vouchers-esa-private-schools#:~:text=A%20typical%20voucher%20from%20Arizona's,tuition%20and%20fees%2C%20ProPublica%20found.

The vouchers are a strain on the state's budget. In AZ, self-sufficient neighborhoods pay for school via local property taxes, the state only steps in areas that aren't self-sufficient. This means places like Scottsdale (a wealthy suburb) would get no help from the state, but when a wealthy parent takes their kid out of the school and uses a voucher, the state now has to foot the bill.
https://www.propublica.org/article/arizona-school-vouchers-budget-meltdown

Not to mention, we as a society lose insight into whats going on in the schools. Private schools don't need make their performance metrics public.

Vouchers can be used an unaccredited schools. There is the issue of tax payer money going to religious institutions. This feels like a backdoor into further pushing religion via public money. And, the issue of grift and lack of accountability is scary.

American public schools have improvements that need to be made, and they can't undo all the problems someone faces at home. But, they can probably do better than a "school" in a shopping mall that no one is checking in on, doesn't provide transportation, doesn't provide lunches to poor kids, and doesn't have certified teachers.
(https://i.ibb.co/Wv5jtNzM/Screenshot-2025-02-04-at-12-55-38-AM.png)
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on February 04, 2025, 02:42:53 AM
Betsy DeVos is on Slap?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: backside_reacharound on February 04, 2025, 05:57:15 AM
Betsy DeVos is on Slap?

seems to be, lol....
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: sexualhelon on February 04, 2025, 06:51:35 AM
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A nation of morons in the making
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-advisers-weigh-plan-dismantle-department-education-wsj-reports-2025-02-03/
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This is a huge issue for me as well as tens of millions of Americans. I am waiting for the shoe to drop, but you can expect a huge public demonstration of educators and special educators if they mess with the DOE. HUGE demonstration. The war on public educators and special educators has been ridiculous and we will not tolerate it. Good fucking luck selling the public on why removing services for students with significant disabilities is an appropriate course of action unless he goes the eugenics route. To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if he did at this point.  If he chooses that route and people support him, I will lose my shit.

This happened long ago.

Many public colleges and universities were tuition-free in the US until the late 20th century. In the 1980’s and beyond the "right" began pushing to cut support for public higher education and anything else that benefited the mass of people. These "right" people came from upper income groups who wanted to cut their taxes, take home more money, and pad their already sizeable bank accounts. Sound familiar?

I mean, "we" let universities go from public/tuition free to costing 10's of 1000's of dollars per year. It seems like these people maybe once thought it was beneficial for you to have a high school education before going to the factory, now they want you straight in the factory. I think the education system is already one of the worst things about the US - that and healthcare.

Unfortunately it seems like the mindset is, "I don't want to pay for your education, I don't want to pay for your healthcare". So instead we pay the billionaires who own these institutions. Don't get me wrong though, I'd love to see people not tolerate these things and them be reformed.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mongo Lloyd on February 04, 2025, 07:39:01 AM
A nation of morons in the making
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-advisers-weigh-plan-dismantle-department-education-wsj-reports-2025-02-03/

And this is already a country that can’t afford more morons.

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Control on February 04, 2025, 10:23:16 AM
As a parent, I don’t see the removal of the department of education as a big deal. If anything I see it as a bonus of less indoctrination on my kid...

You seem well-intentioned. Can you describe the indoctrination you're talking about? Do you have examples of your kids being indoctrinated?

Also, do you see any irony in using DOE data in the ability to make your arguments?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: JoseCansnake0 on February 04, 2025, 11:49:00 AM
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I’ve been lurking through this thread here and there. Is there anybody in this whole thread that’s pro trump?

I’m definitely not but I’m a little surprised it seems there is no one here riding trumps dick.
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Yeah, this guy

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You are a such a tool. I think you need to stop watching the news, it's poising your head.

Also,
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I forgot you exist.
[close]

What makes this even more gratifying, is that you're dead wrong. i'm not a supporter in any way. i just think you're a kook and you need to be reminded of that on a skateboard forum
[close]

whatever you say, Mr. Trump supporter.

I keep a list of quotes in my phone, and you fit this one perfectly:

"A man who thinks he's enlightened, is merely a shadow"

As a skateboarder, who comes here to read about skateboarding, it's sad to see the majority of your posts are about politics. And you don't hold back on which way, and anyone who opposes you are called names and treated as lesser. Do better shadow boy
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Sidewalk Funk. on February 04, 2025, 12:11:18 PM
I'm also hesitant to think that no state would not offer special needs assistance... am I naive in this assessment?

Been working in special education for the past 7 years as an occupational therapist. The short answer to your question is: yes
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: m477 on February 04, 2025, 01:54:18 PM
I'll be god-damned if the American public school system is going to indoctrinate my kids about subjects that have no place being discussed in the classroom, like U.S. slavery, Japanese-American internment camps and Native American genocide.

Whooooa there... easy big fella. I mean indoctrinated into low standards, each kid just another $15k brick in the wall just to meet the lowest expectations.

With all the federal red tape it seems like the doe has been a failed project. I would like to see teachers have more freedom (obviously with discretion from the local PTA).

There's been quite a few times at parent teacher conferences where teachers are consistently saying things like "we're only doing this to satisfy regulations" (especially in regards to common core math). Aiming everyone to be just at the bare minimum. I mean the report cards in elementary didn't even allow the teachers to grade at "above average" when a student was absolutely crushing it in a subject. They grade like this so that the next semester of reporting they can up it a notch in order to show "improvement over time' to pad the districts reporting metrics. Why not acknowledge these things when they happen and move the kids killing it to the next threshold. It seems like no child left behind has had the consequences of everyone trailing behind. These are the types of things I don't like and prevent me from having the doom and gloom perspective that some may have. And I can't relate to Mr. Lawndale's post in the slightest (although it did give me a chuckle).
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: EdLawndale on February 04, 2025, 02:54:35 PM
Do you know what the word "indoctrinate" means?

You should take more care in using terms like that when discussing the public school system, because while you are clearly aligning yourself with its detractors, your misuse of that word makes it seem for very different reasons.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: h00man on February 04, 2025, 03:21:27 PM
sad

headline: Trump proposes permanent displacement of Gazans with Netanyahu at White House

https://www.reuters.com/world/trump-netanyahu-set-pivotal-talks-middle-east-agenda-2025-02-04/
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: h00man on February 04, 2025, 03:23:20 PM
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I’ve been lurking through this thread here and there. Is there anybody in this whole thread that’s pro trump?

I’m definitely not but I’m a little surprised it seems there is no one here riding trumps dick.
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Yeah, this guy

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You are a such a tool. I think you need to stop watching the news, it's poising your head.

Also,
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I forgot you exist.
[close]

What makes this even more gratifying, is that you're dead wrong. i'm not a supporter in any way. i just think you're a kook and you need to be reminded of that on a skateboard forum
[close]

whatever you say, Mr. Trump supporter.
[close]

I keep a list of quotes in my phone, and you fit this one perfectly:

"A man who thinks he's enlightened, is merely a shadow"

As a skateboarder, who comes here to read about skateboarding, it's sad to see the majority of your posts are about politics. And you don't hold back on which way, and anyone who opposes you are called names and treated as lesser. Do better shadow boy

First off, I don't care what you think.

Second: "As a skateboarder, who comes here to read about skateboarding, it's sad to see the majority of your posts are about politics"

My guy you're in a political topic in a skateboarding forum. If you don't want to read about opinions on politics, then why are you in this thread? Stay out of it or click the "ignore" button under my name.

Good job Mr Trump Supporter.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Top-Heavy Hookjaw on February 04, 2025, 03:44:43 PM
sad

headline: Trump proposes permanent displacement of Gazans with Netanyahu at White House

https://www.reuters.com/world/trump-netanyahu-set-pivotal-talks-middle-east-agenda-2025-02-04/

Thanks for sharing this. ✌️
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on February 04, 2025, 03:58:01 PM

Whooooa there... easy big fella. I mean indoctrinated into low standards, each kid just another $15k brick in the wall just to meet the lowest expectations.

With all the federal red tape it seems like the doe has been a failed project. I would like to see teachers have more freedom (obviously with discretion from the local PTA).

There's been quite a few times at parent teacher conferences where teachers are consistently saying things like "we're only doing this to satisfy regulations" (especially in regards to common core math). Aiming everyone to be just at the bare minimum. I mean the report cards in elementary didn't even allow the teachers to grade at "above average" when a student was absolutely crushing it in a subject. They grade like this so that the next semester of reporting they can up it a notch in order to show "improvement over time' to pad the districts reporting metrics. Why not acknowledge these things when they happen and move the kids killing it to the next threshold. It seems like no child left behind has had the consequences of everyone trailing behind. These are the types of things I don't like and prevent me from having the doom and gloom perspective that some may have. And I can't relate to Mr. Lawndale's post in the slightest (although it did give me a chuckle).

I can't speak to the DOE as I don't fully understand their role. Instead, I've always understood education as a very local issue in America and relying primarily on local funding, input, and so on.

You are going to find a wide variety in the quality of schools no matter which type you pick. The thought that the category of school determines its ability to educate is a little too simple.

Charters: These range from amazing to complete scams. 
Private: Same
Religious Private: Range from awesome with a bit of religion tossed in to schools that teach dinosaurs walked the earth when Jesus turned water into wine and walked on water.
Public: Huge spectrum as well, but there is always public oversight.
Home: The range here is also huge. Kids not learning the absolute basics of even how to read to kids being indoctrinated with religious nonsense to kids being overachievers. Although, I do worry about kids who are homeschooled and face unpleasant home lives whether by neglect or abuse. No escape from hell.  The idea that parents are always right or always safe is absurd. A lot of children need the chance to escape their parent's abuse and idiocy.

Looking at the schools alone also doesn't account for the negative influence environments and parents. Kids in super poor families face all sorts of issues in their neighborhoods. Kids aren't going to kick ass if they're hungry, tired, afraid, and stressed all the time. 8 hours in the classroom with the most caring teacher in the world won't erase the other 16 hours a day fighting for an existence. And, wealthy parents are pretty fucking dumb. They push the schools to encourage sports instead of academics.
https://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/chicago/R/bo149570065.html

And, parental "discipline" isn't necessarily good for kids either, unless we are trying to teach them to be the lowest ranking person in any institution.
https://www.ucpress.edu/books/unequal-childhoods/paper

Finally, I'm biased. I collected a lot of degrees and I only went to public schools. My public high school is in the top 20 schools in the state I grew up in. That school, despite the problems and my rebellious fuck authority mentality, gave me a huge advantage in life. An advantage I could have never afforded through a voucher. My mom was a single mom without a lot of money. We couldn't afford an extra 7K in tuition costs + transportation to an expensive rich kid private school. Nor would she have had the ability to teach me. My computer classes, math classes, and foreign language classes surpassed where she felt comfortable in late middle school. She wasn't going to teach me HTML, trig/pre-calc, or the basics of Spanish, but my high school did.

We could potentially set up all schools to be like Oak Lane Country Day School, where Chomsky went as a child, but the cost would be astounding. Public education has its issues but for the for-profit-education scares me the most and homeschooling makes me uncomfortable. Yea, some parents are qualified to teach their kids, a lot of parents aren't and their poor kids are starting off life with a huge disadvantage. And, anecdotally, I'm yet to meet a home schooled kid who was able to socialize well with their peers. Both home school kids that skated my local park were difficult to interact with. Not saying they were bad, but they struggled interacting with their peers.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: m477 on February 04, 2025, 05:42:31 PM
Do you know what the word "indoctrinate" means?

You should take more care in using terms like that when discussing the public school system, because while you are clearly aligning yourself with its detractors, your misuse of that word makes it seem for very different reasons.

Haha, man I don't know what to tell you! Its funny you recommend that I take more care with my words because I made an effort for each of my posts to be as benign and honest as possible. And even then I still got Betsy Devoed! Par for the course though, I know how this place works and it did make me laugh. I see you edited your post, are you still asking if I know what the word means? It means to teach, and I was always taught to be reasonably skeptical of the government.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/indoctrinate

in·​doc·​tri·​nate in-ˈdäk-trə-ˌnāt
indoctrinated; indoctrinating
Synonyms of indoctrinate
transitive verb
1
: to imbue with a usually partisan or sectarian opinion, point of view, or principle
2
: to instruct especially in fundamentals or rudiments : TEACH

I'm sure I can't be the only one that has used this term in reference to the government (it can be used in a myriad of ways). Appreciate everyones insights, I'll see myself out.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: EdLawndale on February 04, 2025, 06:08:16 PM
I'm sorry, I still don't think you are using the word correctly. When one objects to indoctrination in an educational setting, it really only refers to the subject matter the pupils are being taught.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: pugmaster on February 04, 2025, 06:08:42 PM
Demonizing educators and characterizing them as purposely "indoctrinating," where they are trying to spread some particular agenda with ulterior motives, drives me absolutely nuts. Teachers want students to be empathetic. Teachers want students to be able to take the perspective of other people. Teachers want their students to be successful academically, socially, and emotionally.

It is really fascinating how short the attention span of adults is in modern times. When COVID-19 happened, so many families didn't realize what it is like to spend 24 hrs a day with their child(ren), let alone a room of 20-30 kids for a whole day. Then, one day, everyone seemed to completely forget how hard the job of teachers is, how underpaid and overworked they are. We don't have librarians anymore... THEY'RE PORNOGRAPHERS TRYING TO MAKE MY JOEY A TRANSGENDER !!!

Just like how we all watched January 6th happen in real-time and knew exactly what happened.... but now ... J 6 was just a trip to the capitol.

Give me a fucking break.

I don't know much about geopolitics, economics, and a million other things. I do know public education. Here is the thing: the better our educational system is...EVERYONE BENEFITS. So many students have different life experiences that they really do need a safe space at school and abundant funding. I don't even ask some students I work with how their weekend or holiday break was because I know they're in foster care or identified as homeless. Rather, I welcome tell them that I am happy to see them. One school I worked at in a low socio-economic area had something called "backpack buddies" so that the poorest of students would get a bag full of food on Fridays and before major breaks because they rely so much on schools for food. Educators and related service providers often keep their rooms/offices supplied with snacks because you can't teach when basic needs are not met.

A documentary about kids living in motels in Anaheim some years back was so damn sad. These kids lived really close to Disneyland, but their lives were nothing further from "the happiest place on earth." I recall the kids being asked to identify when they eat certain meals (e.g., in the morning you eat breakfast, in the afternoon you eat lunch, in the evening you eat dinner) and the kids didn't even have the language for those concepts.

People have no idea how fucked over children are, who are born in to a system where the "Christians" on the right give two fucks about them and the people who dedicate their lives to helping them are made out to be monsters.

I dislike many things about the Democratic party, but I will never forgive or forget the GOP for the things I have seen in my adult years.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on February 04, 2025, 06:49:16 PM
I think this might have been posted already

Trump floats idea to have American soldiers displace Palestinians to redevelop it into the Jersey Shore. Trump supporters who made fear-mongering emotional claims about Egypt, Jordan, and Palestinians refuse acknowledge that they were wrong about why Egypt and Jordan weren't accepting all the refugees at the height of Israel's war.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/01/world/middleeast/arab-nations-reject-trump-evacuate-gaza.html


Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on February 04, 2025, 07:13:40 PM
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As a parent, I don’t see the removal of the department of education as a big deal. If anything I see it as a bonus of less indoctrination on my kid...
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You seem well-intentioned. Can you describe the indoctrination you're talking about? Do you have examples of your kids being indoctrinated?

Also, do you see any irony in using DOE data in the ability to make your arguments?

No. He’s avoiding this completely and posting anything but. He did post the definition though, just not what they are being ‘indoctrinated’ with. Btw, my son grew up in Yubatuckey (Yuba City) and even in that shithole of inbred dipshits there was a STEM program as well as other after school programs for gifted kids. Hell, my kid was taking high school classes in jr high and college classes in high school(these were through the public school programs), so maybe you need to get more involved in actual finding a good school, pulling your child out of public options and sending them to a charter or private or help them with their studies on your time or hire a tutor. If it’s possible for these to exist in public schools in a very uneducated close minded town, there’s options maybe you haven’t looked hard enough for.
Still looking forward to hearing what your child is being indoctrinated with at school though.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on February 04, 2025, 07:21:44 PM
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sad

headline: Trump proposes permanent displacement of Gazans with Netanyahu at White House

https://www.reuters.com/world/trump-netanyahu-set-pivotal-talks-middle-east-agenda-2025-02-04/
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Thanks for sharing this. ✌️


I remember when people protested Kamala by not voting because she didn't condemn the Gaza attacks soon enough.

I also remember Trump saying he'd help Israel finish the job the entire time people were pining about Kamala.

Now we're here and he's fulfilling his promise and people who protest voted all have Shocked Pikachu face.

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: pugmaster on February 04, 2025, 07:37:27 PM
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Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: alien porkchop on February 04, 2025, 07:38:42 PM
I think this might have been posted already

Trump floats idea to have American soldiers displace Palestinians to redevelop it into the Jersey Shore. Trump supporters who made fear-mongering emotional claims about Egypt, Jordan, and Palestinians refuse acknowledge that they were wrong about why Egypt and Jordan weren't accepting all the refugees at the height of Israel's war.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/01/world/middleeast/arab-nations-reject-trump-evacuate-gaza.html

one poster mentioned it previous. the statements he made are officially the wildest shit i have heard him say so far. this is me being alarmed.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: WashingtonNECKTIE on February 04, 2025, 07:43:40 PM
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Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Too Frank To Fred on February 04, 2025, 09:46:40 PM
Well, its about 90% certain I have to shut down a federally funded Transitional Living Program for homeless youth largely due to panic and uncertainty in the Federal government. I really thought the City, County and State would come through for us but no one wants to give up more money in this climate. Our federal funding ends in Sept but I think we are going to try to plan a meaningful closure way before then.

In theory the Feds would normally release a RFP in March and then we'd submit a grant in April but we know it's not going to happen. This program has been running since 1986 and housed thousands of young people... I took it over in 2016... Anyway, sorry for the ramble... a lot to process...
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: The real veganshawn on February 04, 2025, 09:54:19 PM
Well, its about 90% certain I have to shut down a federally funded Transitional Living Program for homeless youth largely due to panic and uncertainty in the Federal government. I really thought the City, County and State would come through for us but no one wants to give up more money in this climate. Our federal funding ends in Sept but I think we are going to try to plan a meaningful closure way before then.

In theory the Feds would normally release a RFP in March and then we'd submit a grant in April but we know it's not going to happen. This program has been running since 1986 and housed thousands of young people... I took it over in 2016... Anyway, sorry for the ramble... a lot to process...

So sorry this is happening 😢
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Too Frank To Fred on February 04, 2025, 09:57:18 PM
Thanks Shawn. We will do our damndest to make sure the current residents and staff land on their feet before we actually close.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on February 04, 2025, 10:45:47 PM
Thanks Shawn. We will do our damndest to make sure the current residents and staff land on their feet before we actually close.

Fuck. Sorry to hear this is happening to your program.

Hopefully things work out well for your residents and staff.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on February 04, 2025, 10:47:36 PM
@Too Frank To Fred
That sucks. It is sad, while completely mislead, I do think some (easily fooled) people voted Trump because they wanted money to be spent on domestic spending helping Americans. Amazing how fast that fades and we are back to bootstrapping it.


Let's see if any of these stick:

Colombia Cancels Joint US/Colombia Oil Venture
https://financialpost.com/pmn/colombias-president-orders-national-oil-company-to-cancel-us-venture-over-environmental-concerns

Saudia Arabia will refuse to establish ties with Israel over Trump's threat to steal Palestinian land. Damn, even after we let them kill a Washington Post journalist with impunity and they funneled money into Trump's pockets
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/saudi-arabia-says-it-wont-establish-ties-with-israel-without-creation-2025-02-05/

Canada might step on the gas negotiating trade agreements with the rest of the world. A deal with Ecuador was signed today, but obviously this already in the works. Hopefully, Canada puts its foot on the pedal and gets moving.
https://globalnews.ca/news/11002590/canada-ecuador-trade-deal-free-trade-trump-tariffs/

US AID potentially fucked. Musk's 15 year old little demons attempted to gain access classified information at US AID. Rubio, Musk, and Trump... but mainly Musk, respond by attempting to shut the entire agency. 10K employees told to return to the US to no job. Shutting it needs to be done through congress, but this administration has little care for the law and Republicans don't give a shit about the law or Constitution.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/04/us/usaid-musk-trump-rubio-cuts.html
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Control on February 05, 2025, 12:40:42 PM
Children need to have respect & discipline in their life in order to successfully learn, this happens at home and at school. Some (most?) parents don't really care or think about this aspect and leave it in the hands of the government (not ideal). Growing up in the 80's and 90's I got the impression that most of my skate friends had parents like this... and they didn't turn out too well... some went to prison and some are dead (i'm sure everyone has similar unfortunate experiences).

You played loose with your use of the word indoctrination—either intentionally or just ignorantly. There's a reason dictionaries use chronologic definition, you know?

We'll say you're a fan of semantics. So this other thing you said above: what are the "hands of government" in schools that are interfering with indoctrinating respect and discipline into kids? (Damn, look what I did.) And are they federal or state hands?

And the correlation you're making — kids attending school leads to a life of imprisonment or premature death — are you worried kids will become convicts because of public school teachers, state-designed testing standards, or academic reporting?

Pretty large brush you're painting with.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Burt Ward on February 05, 2025, 02:34:18 PM
In the context of the insane times we're living in, saying children are being "indoctrinated" at school sounds awfully like "my children are being taught that LGBTQI+ people exist by pinko, groomer teachers, and I'm not down with my kids being taught that the least you can do is accept others for who they are". We all know this, so why say it?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: m477 on February 05, 2025, 03:15:31 PM
Quote from: Plan9Customs
No. He’s avoiding this completely and posting anything but. He did post the definition though, just not what they are being ‘indoctrinated’ with. Btw, my son grew up in Yubatuckey (Yuba City) and even in that shithole of inbred dipshits there was a STEM program as well as other after school programs for gifted kids. Hell, my kid was taking high school classes in jr high and college classes in high school(these were through the public school programs), so maybe you need to get more involved in actual finding a good school, pulling your child out of public options and sending them to a charter or private or help them with their studies on your time or hire a tutor. If it’s possible for these to exist in public schools in a very uneducated close minded town, there’s options maybe you haven’t looked hard enough for.
Still looking forward to hearing what your child is being indoctrinated with at school though.

Yep, I definitely was avoiding further engagement. I already answered it (see below bolded quote) and after pugs crash out post, I didn't really see the point in further discussion. I've been pretty transparent... either you get what I'm saying or you don't. And since you don't think I have well intentions, why do you even bother asking? But, since you asked a second time for specifics examples of my kid being indoctrinated by teachers, I'll humor you: That aint happining, the only ones indoctrinating him are mom and dad.

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I'll be god-damned if the American public school system is going to indoctrinate my kids about subjects that have no place being discussed in the classroom, like U.S. slavery, Japanese-American internment camps and Native American genocide.
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Whooooa there... easy big fella. I mean indoctrinated into low standards, each kid just another $15k brick in the wall just to meet the lowest expectations.

With all the federal red tape it seems like the doe has been a failed project. I would like to see teachers have more freedom (obviously with discretion from the local PTA).

There's been quite a few times at parent teacher conferences where teachers are consistently saying things like "we're only doing this to satisfy regulations" (especially in regards to common core math). Aiming everyone to be just at the bare minimum. I mean the report cards in elementary didn't even allow the teachers to grade at "above average" when a student was absolutely crushing it in a subject. They grade like this so that the next semester of reporting they can up it a notch in order to show "improvement over time' to pad the districts reporting metrics. Why not acknowledge these things when they happen and move the kids killing it to the next threshold. It seems like no child left behind has had the consequences of everyone trailing behind. These are the types of things I don't like and prevent me from having the doom and gloom perspective that some may have. And I can't relate to Mr. Lawndale's post in the slightest (although it did give me a chuckle).
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: EdLawndale on February 05, 2025, 04:06:28 PM
Maybe you mean "inducted"? Either way, please stop.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: m477 on February 05, 2025, 05:01:48 PM
Maybe you mean "inducted"? Either way, please stop.
Don’t worry bud, I wouldn’t think so hard about it. I know this place is sensitive and saw myself out of the thread yesterday but didn’t want to be rude and leave plan9 hanging. No need to walk me out, I know where the door is.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: fakie nollie on February 05, 2025, 09:04:17 PM
Don’t let the door hit your bussy
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on February 06, 2025, 12:09:29 AM
Good words re: Texas’s looming school vouchers


http://www.instagram.com/reel/DFtqfbhva7D/?igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ== (http://www.instagram.com/reel/DFtqfbhva7D/?igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==)

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on February 06, 2025, 09:21:41 AM
Good words re: Texas’s looming school vouchers


http://www.instagram.com/reel/DFtqfbhva7D/?igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ== (http://www.instagram.com/reel/DFtqfbhva7D/?igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==)

This is a well thought out and articulate argument for being against vouchers. Too bad the voting base for Texas is as dumb as rocks and will just blindly believe Abbott. They can easily learn from Arizona's failures with vouchers and how low-income areas aren't using them and/or don't have options in their area to use them. Also adding that private schools coincidentally also raised tuition prices when the vouchers began.

But yea, we'll just see poor, public schools become poorer.

God, I hate this timeline where Biff has hold of the Sports Almanac. 
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Jehoshaphat Augustus on February 06, 2025, 10:21:15 AM
Don’t let the door hit your bussy
its actually an elite technique when i'm alone and wanna get hungry on it 
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on February 06, 2025, 11:17:21 AM
Trump is directing the DOJ to investigate "pro-choice" protesters under the guise of the FACE Act because it's "anti-Christian" terrorism.

Google "Iran before Muslim Revolution" and that's where we're at. Then Google "Iran after Muslim Revolution" and that's where we'll be heading.

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: h00man on February 06, 2025, 12:43:13 PM
It's almost as if we were all warned about Project 2025 and the underlining intent behind it to make America a Christian nation....

but no, lowering the cost of eggs and gas are more important.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mr. Kamikazi on February 06, 2025, 12:46:57 PM
The moral panic created by the Republican Party is just flat out wild. Ask someone what the direct problem is; there is NO PROBLEM. They were told it’s a problem by the uneducated, paranoid, ignorant stakeholders who unfortunately have influence & power. I’ve been reading a lot about this as it’s part of my education & discipline & while I’m happy to know that I’m not insane as I feel gaslit by these clowns, it’s just astonishing to see it happening textbook style in front of me.


Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: GnarAlarm on February 06, 2025, 01:12:14 PM
It's almost as if we were all warned about Project 2025 and the underlining intent behind it to make America a Christian nation....

but no, lowering the cost of eggs and gas are more important.

I'd have a tiny, tiny modicum of respect for the "cost of eggs" people if they'd been shown any kind of tangible, objective plan on how the cost of eggs were going to be reduced, maybe a timeline, any kind of coherent, reality based explanation, even if it was a shitty, unethical way to reduce costs, but no, all they needed to hear was "planes crash because of brown people and lesbians and also eggs will be cheaper".

(the word "eggs" is interchangeable with many other goods and materials here)
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Top-Heavy Hookjaw on February 06, 2025, 04:08:04 PM
Eggs are expensive again due to a highly contagious strain of bird flu that has reduced the number of chickens available for egg production. The outbreak began in early 2022 and has affected millions of birds in the United States.

Because science. Something the average Trump voter does not acknowledge.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: sexualhelon on February 06, 2025, 06:03:25 PM
The moral panic created by the Republican Party is just flat out wild. Ask someone what the direct problem is; there is NO PROBLEM. They were told it’s a problem by the uneducated, paranoid, ignorant stakeholders who unfortunately have influence & power. I’ve been reading a lot about this as it’s part of my education & discipline & while I’m happy to know that I’m not insane as I feel gaslit by these clowns, it’s just astonishing to see it happening textbook style in front of me.

This is what gets me, to be honest. It's not the Republican party or the Democratic party - it's both. You're always forced to vote for someone from one of two sides. They want you to blame the other party but in reality they're one in the same. You don't think Mom and Dad are on the same team? They're just playing good cop/bad cop with you. Maybe they were two different people at some point but now they're married.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Jim and Dan on February 07, 2025, 05:02:43 AM
Well, its about 90% certain I have to shut down a federally funded Transitional Living Program for homeless youth largely due to panic and uncertainty in the Federal government. I really thought the City, County and State would come through for us but no one wants to give up more money in this climate. Our federal funding ends in Sept but I think we are going to try to plan a meaningful closure way before then.

In theory the Feds would normally release a RFP in March and then we'd submit a grant in April but we know it's not going to happen. This program has been running since 1986 and housed thousands of young people... I took it over in 2016... Anyway, sorry for the ramble... a lot to process...

That's a bummer Frank, sorry to hear about the potential here. My girlfriend runs a couples shelter in our state and I'm concerned about their status for the same reasons, being that they rely heavily on grants from the federal government. I'm sure this administration sees homelessness as "problematic" and a failure of the individual to not work hard enough to accomplish the American Dream like him and his little business buddies did.

As stated previously, I've stayed far away from politics for the last decade or so, mostly due to disillusionment of the system, but unfortunately I have to pay somewhat attention to it now since I do a lot of business with Canada for my employment. Talking to my suppliers up there, they seem to believe the tariff issue will blow over and is simply a tactic to gain better leverage in trade negotiations and I tend to agree, the economic feasibility of such measures is extremely unsustainable and ultimately a lose-lose situation for everyone...

I still can't believe there are that many people out there that think that jobs are coming back to America, but I guess I underestimate the ignorance of most people...
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mr. Kamikazi on February 07, 2025, 06:10:32 AM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pwUc7ncHDYc&pp=ygUVQ291bnRyeSB0ZWFzZXJzIHBhbmlj
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: brycickle on February 07, 2025, 06:45:00 AM
This is a silly thought that I had, or maybe not? Are we going roll back DEI so far that we force the MLB to un-retire the number 42?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on February 07, 2025, 08:56:43 AM
This is a silly thought that I had, or maybe not? Are we going roll back DEI so far that we force the MLB to un-retire the number 42?

Would not be surprised even if they went as far as to remove him from the baseball HOF.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on February 07, 2025, 08:56:32 PM
Trump just revoked Biden's security clearance so Biden won't be getting intelligence briefings.

Totally just being petty and getting revenge for Biden pulling his back in 2021 after Orange Blumpkin was caught with so much Top Secret files that he took without de-classifying.

Everyday I look more and more forward to the news that he died from an aneurysm while taking a shit. 
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on February 08, 2025, 12:34:19 PM
The good news is most of this shit is just executive orders, which can quickly be undone. Ezra Klien pointed out that he'd be more afraid if Trump was moving slowly and working with Congress to accomplish things. Most of this is bluster. I just worry about the elections.


Back to plastic, because the goal of this administration is pollution. Not energy, not lower prices, just pollution seems to be the goal. I'd be fine with outlawing straws for anything but milkshakes and boba. They're kind of stupid.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/08/trump-plastic-straws

NIH Lab Support For Universities Being Reduced.
https://arstechnica.com/science/2025/02/new-nih-policy-will-slash-support-money-to-research-universities/

Russian Oligarchs Celebrate Trump dropping the task force that sort of put them in check
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-administration-disbands-task-force-targeting-russian-oligarchs-2025-02-06/

USAID attacked, Russia, China, and other authoritarian countries celebrate. Americans also celebrate not realizing how much influence and good will this generates.
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2025/02/06/russia-welcomes-usaid-cuts-calls-agency-machine-for-interfering-a87895

Panama Exits One Belt One Road Initiative (an actual win for the Trump admin)
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3297689/panama-pulls-out-chinas-belt-and-road-initiative-president-mulino-says?module=top_story&pgtype=homepage

Victims of Apartheid. Trump has decided White people in S. Africa are the victims and need safe haven in USA. Don't pay attention to the fact that the avg Black S. African family has 5% of the wealth of the avg White S. African family.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-orders-u-s-refugee-resettlement-of-afrikaners/

In preparation to commit international crimes, specifically in Gaza, Trump sanctions the International Criminal Court
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/02/imposing-sanctions-on-the-international-criminal-court/
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/09538259.2024.2318962

Israel and US jerk-off to idea of stealing all of Gaza Destroying the entire country, illegally displacing all people and building the Jersey Shore of the Middle East helps Netanyahu cum in Trump's tiny hands.
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5133161-donald-trump-gaza-proposal-israel-takeover/
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: augustmoon on February 08, 2025, 03:03:58 PM
For anyone peddling this “both sides are bad” nonsense:

one side is trying to break the constitution and one side isn’t.  Get with the program or shut the fuck up.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: h00man on February 08, 2025, 07:23:13 PM
For anyone peddling this “both sides are bad” nonsense:

one side is trying to break the constitution and one side isn’t.  Get with the program or shut the fuck up.

agreed
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on February 08, 2025, 11:55:02 PM
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For anyone peddling this “both sides are bad” nonsense:

one side is trying to break the constitution and one side isn’t.  Get with the program or shut the fuck up.
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agreed

Sadly enough, too many people see it as Republicans as being the ones who aren’t trying to break the constitution.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: WashingtonNECKTIE on February 09, 2025, 11:02:06 AM
For anyone peddling this “both sides are bad” nonsense:

one side is trying to break the constitution and one side isn’t.  Get with the program or shut the fuck up.

(R) - "you just can't handle it when democracy doesn't work for you"
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on February 09, 2025, 11:57:01 AM
Polls on the first few weeks of Trump. I can't really interpret the meaning of these because there isn't enough comparative data to what polls usually turn up in the first few weeks of a presidency and I have no idea how long it usually takes from policy failures to public learning about these failures to the public shifting opinions.

While PEW is pretty good, media (legacy and social media) are terrible with statistics. They look at short term changes which are just noise and seem to misunderstand what they are reporting.


But, the polls do show we are living in two different worlds and maybe I shouldn't be surprised, but I'm surprised how much Republicans love Musk.

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2025/02/07/public-anticipates-changes-with-trump-but-is-split-over-whether-they-will-be-good-or-bad/
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-approval-opinion-poll-2025-2-9/
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mongo Lloyd on February 09, 2025, 12:06:35 PM
I think legacy media reporting, and relaxed “sanewashing” media reporting of Trump’s policies really has people living in an ignorant self contained bubble. Obviously it’s by design, but it’s also effective.

Until it hits their own medical coverage, bank account, or openly oppresses their personal freedoms, then they will continue to believe everything is golden (or orange).

Meanwhile, the rest of us have empathy, care about others and see things for what they are in actuality.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: sexualhelon on February 09, 2025, 03:11:58 PM
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For anyone peddling this “both sides are bad” nonsense:

one side is trying to break the constitution and one side isn’t.  Get with the program or shut the fuck up.
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(R) - "you just can't handle it when democracy doesn't work for you"

I think both sides have taken part in that. You can argue one side is better than the other but I think the apple is mostly rotten at this point.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: WashingtonNECKTIE on February 09, 2025, 10:28:45 PM
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For anyone peddling this “both sides are bad” nonsense:

one side is trying to break the constitution and one side isn’t.  Get with the program or shut the fuck up.
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(R) - "you just can't handle it when democracy doesn't work for you"
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I think both sides have taken part in that. You can argue one side is better than the other but I think the apple is mostly rotten at this point.

I don't disagree.
What we're seeing is one ideology taking that and running with it; "the Constitution doesn't work" -  in essence, pushing (USA's democracy) to it's limits.

The Constitution has become a document to be challenged, rather than adhered to

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Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: botefdunn on February 10, 2025, 07:04:34 PM
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For anyone peddling this “both sides are bad” nonsense:

one side is trying to break the constitution and one side isn’t.  Get with the program or shut the fuck up.
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(R) - "you just can't handle it when democracy doesn't work for you"
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I think both sides have taken part in that. You can argue one side is better than the other but I think the apple is mostly rotten at this point.
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I don't disagree.
What we're seeing is one ideology taking that and running with it; "the Constitution doesn't work" -  in essence, pushing (USA's democracy) to it's limits.

The Constitution has become a document to be challenged, rather than adhered to

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What people are proposing moving forward, both in terms of ethics and policies, is pretty drastically different. Trump is clearly calling  for all authority to reside within his office, with little or no real oversight. That's a major difference. 
I don't think it's even accurate to refer to trump's rule as ideological, since he seems totally unconcerned with consistency. If there's an authority or school of thought other than his own that he respects, I'm unaware of it.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on February 10, 2025, 08:05:26 PM
https://www.reuters.com/markets/asian-eu-steelmakers-shares-fall-after-trump-escalates-tariffs-2025-02-10/

Can’t say if it will help the steel industry, but as someone that works in the collision industry and also does fabrication work, this is going to cause a lot of cars to be totaled for things that normally wouldn’t come close. I also know that parts will take a huge cost leap as well as steel/aluminum so basically last time he pulled this dipshit move his first term a 20’ stick of .065 1.25” erw went from $15 to $50+ so be ready to eat a huge cost on anything that has any type of metal(cars, fences, gates, motorcycles, bikes,  scooters, computers, etc, etc, etc.). Fortunately, I knew he’d pull this shit again so I stocked up sheet metal and tubing before this went down again and also bought a tig since all the electronics are coming from out of country(yes even on the US made).
 Fuck this imbecile and make sure to direct you anger accordingly.

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on February 10, 2025, 10:48:06 PM
President Musk and Vice President Trump just shut down the CFPB.

Keep an eye out on your credit cards, bank statements, mortgages, etc.

Federal financial protection for consumers are gone. It's now free reign to fuck us over with fees if they want.

Also, it's no longer illegal to bribe foreign officials.

Everyday is like waking up to finding a new way to get fucked in ass.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on February 10, 2025, 11:31:23 PM
It is crazy that they are shutting shit down, when they don't have the authority to do so. Just as Musk doesn't have access to sensitive government data from position in his temporary organization (it is not a department of the government).

I'm rather tired of an obviously two tiered justice system. This is against the law and the punishment is nothing:
https://www.propublica.org/article/usaid-trump-musk-destruction-may-have-broken-law

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/no-one-is-above-the-law-federal-court-blocks-musk-and-doge-from-accessing-sensitive-government-data-orders-employees-to-destroy-all-copies-and-downloads/

https://www.aft.org/press-release/unions-sue-over-elon-musks-unprecedented-and-illegal-hack-americans-private-data#:~:text=The%20suit%20alleges%20the%20Department,to%20some%20of%20the%20government's

All we have is the court system to protect America until the mid-terms. The Supreme Court will fuck us, but how blatantly will they sell out America? The Dems better be thinking really hard about the mid-terms and they better not say, "America is already great" at any point during the next election. We need a congress that is going to stand up to this idiot.

Trump wants 500 billion of rare earth from Ukraine. Trump's followers soo stupid that they think this is new. This war has always been about 1) a fuck you to Russia and letting them decimate themselves 2) American business salivating at the opportunity to "rebuild" Ukraine 3) protecting of borders and an ally. Why are conservatives pretending America has been a benevolent hegemon post Cold War? We were always out for ourselves, we just didn't say the quiet part out loud. We couched our deeds in good sentiment not overt greed. We are becoming overtly belligerent. Someone to make China look good.
https://www.politico.eu/article/trump-demands-500b-in-rare-earths-from-ukraine-for-support/
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on February 11, 2025, 06:20:21 AM
Also asking $500B in rare Earth in exhange for help is why he got impeached the first time — Quid Pro Quo!

He’s burning bridges with every fucking ally country we have.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on February 11, 2025, 07:04:18 AM
Also asking $500B in rare Earth in exhange for help is why he got impeached the first time — Quid Pro Quo!

He’s burning bridges with every fucking ally country we have.

It’s not even that he’s burning bridges, he’s shrinking americas sphere of influence but gutting everything we do to help countries aboard.   Guess which country that is Already involved in massive infrastructure projects south of the equator is going to fill that void?   And all his bitcoin encouragement is just creating an alternative to the US dollar for people to embrace so that the Us can’t use it as a cudgel against them anymore.   He wants to go back to 1870-1912 so bad and America is basically going to shrink back down to that


The getting rid of the penny thing I used to like bc it was always one of those dumb bits of government waste that was kept around bc it kept jobs in some district for some congressman.   
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Sick_McCrank_ on February 11, 2025, 07:11:16 AM
Maybe now is the time to abolish the two party system.
People should work together and not against each other. Pretty basic understanding of a working society. USA is so weird.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Jehoshaphat Augustus on February 11, 2025, 07:16:44 AM
All we have is the court system to protect America until the mid-terms. The Supreme Court will fuck us, but how blatantly will they sell out America? The Dems better be thinking really hard about the mid-terms and they better not say, "America is already great" at any point during the next election. We need a congress that is going to stand up to this idiot.
We absolutely need to relinquish this antiquated 2 party system.

I've seen Al Green file impeachment motions (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/05/al-green-trump-impeachment-articles-gaza), Elizabeth Warren & Chuck Schumer protesting elon musk  (https://youtu.be/7CrMWY_PQZQ?si=qVZC53JdLtoeGiMS) but where is the rallying and concentrated planning for what's happening in 4 years? Where is the desire to find and promote a strong front runner early? I honestly feel we are seeing the death of the democratic party (as we know it) due to the dismantling that Trump will be doing. The supreme court is now set up to continue to lawfully fuck us in the same way.

So what happens in ~ a year when bird flu doesn't go away and then another virus with "half the brutality" of covid comes simultaneously? What if we are battling a virus and "our" food also is battling a different virus? 


https://youtu.be/0wGIl2KDJrQ

(https://i.ibb.co/v4y2Mj7f/Screenshot-2025-02-11-090520.png)


This piece of shit is gonna just deny what's happening while getting top notch priority health care for himself. That's why he respects Kim Jong Un and North Korea so much.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on February 11, 2025, 09:13:00 AM
https://www.newsweek.com/elon-musk-major-social-security-warning-fraud-billion-week-lost-2029244

President Musk is now "claiming" loads of fraud sound in Social Security. He's going to nix it and use it for his own selfish deeds. And red state bootlickers will refuse to believe that SS has ZERO effect on budget because it's OUR money. So to lose it to own the libs isn't just shooting themselves in the foot, it's shooting themselves in the face. I've been paying into SS for 20+ and to suddenly lose that is going to piss the ever living fuck out of me.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on February 11, 2025, 09:38:36 AM
@Jehoshaphat Augustus

We need NGOs and think tanks to start being more aggressive, but I feel we are an inherently weak position. Businesses have money to drive anti-democratic action and religious fervor is nearly impossible to compete with.

That being said, Dems have been in far worse electoral positions. Although, it is really sad to lose to someone as worthless, shifty, and openly corrupt as Trump.

(https://i.ibb.co/zTctbDXB/Screenshot-2025-02-11-at-10-34-59-AM.png)
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on February 12, 2025, 10:55:23 PM
Bribing foreign officials no longer a crime. Unfucking real. This is one of the best laws on the books and needs to be enforced.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/11/us/politics/trump-fcpa-bribery-law-corruption.html

Democrats learn, party affiliation doesn't matter, only how much you lick Trump's nuts as Feds drop case against corrupt NYC mayor
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/10/nyregion/eric-adams-charges-doj-trump.html

Same as 1.0 Trump has lots of conflicts of interest, but this time around we get conflicts of interests of the world's richest man whose wealt came from the American government subsidizing or funding nearly everything he's done.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/01/17/us/politics/trump-conflicts-of-interest.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/11/us/politics/elon-musk-companies-conflicts.html

Musk steals 80 million from NY. Reminder, congress controls the purse, not the executive branch.
https://apnews.com/article/fema-migrant-funding-new-york-hotels-immigration-elon-musk-doge-268ca7eda43011a501dfad0fa88a4775
https://www.fema.gov/grants/preparedness/shelter-services-program/fy24-awards/ssp-a

Yale educated lawyer who happens to hate cross dressers but LOVES wearing make-up and is our vice president, believes the executive branch is above the judicial branch.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/10/jd-vance-judges-trump


Congress, run by Republicans, is sitting on its balls and doing nothing, but the courts are pushing back against Trump's illegal moves. I can only imagine how much money we will spend on lawsuits and golfing over the next 4 years.
https://www.npr.org/2025/02/12/nx-s1-5294666/trump-white-house-constitutional-crisis-judges
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: roba on February 13, 2025, 01:05:51 AM
@Jehoshaphat Augustus

We need NGOs and think tanks to start being more aggressive, but I feel we are an inherently weak position. Businesses have money to drive anti-democratic action and religious fervor is nearly impossible to compete with.

That being said, Dems have been in far worse electoral positions. Although, it is really sad to lose to someone as worthless, shifty, and openly corrupt as Trump.

(https://i.ibb.co/zTctbDXB/Screenshot-2025-02-11-at-10-34-59-AM.png)

literally 1984
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Burt Ward on February 13, 2025, 01:12:57 AM
It's truly quite unsettling to watch all this go down from the very far away, yet seemingly inextricably linked land fucken down under, cunt. The opposition leader here is pretty keen on working from the Trump playbook, but he's really only likeable to dumbest of hardline conservatives, so we should be safe from him. Mind you, the Labor party, our version of the democrats, I guess, are a feckless bunch indeed, so who fucken knows. Here's a picture of him. Makes Trump look handsome.

(https://i.imgur.com/Y20xrkr.png)

Anyway, good luck over there. I hope something gives soon, for the whole world's sake.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: sexualhelon on February 13, 2025, 05:44:32 AM
It's truly quite unsettling to watch all this go down from the very far away, yet seemingly inextricably linked land fucken down under, cunt. The opposition leader here is pretty keen on working from the Trump playbook, but he's really only likeable to dumbest of hardline conservatives, so we should be safe from him. Mind you, the Labor party, our version of the democrats, I guess, are a feckless bunch indeed, so who fucken knows. Here's a picture of him. Makes Trump look handsome.

(https://i.imgur.com/Y20xrkr.png)

Anyway, good luck over there. I hope something gives soon, for the whole world's sake.

Somehow reminds me of a Goomba
(https://i.insider.com/61572f7db414c10018635618?width=1000&format=jpeg&auto=webp)
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on February 13, 2025, 11:53:17 AM
RFK jr was voted in. He will be terrible and will somehow make American health even worse, but the small consolation prize is the possible removal of food dyes and watching Republicans twist between the tobacco companies that own them and our food supply. RJ Reynolds isn't going to enjoy anything that reduces profit. Also, it'll be interesting to see Republicans talk about eating healthy. I lived in rural America for a bit, many of adult men wouldn't eat vegetables.
https://arstechnica.com/health/2025/02/a-sicker-america-senate-confirms-robert-f-kennedy-jr-as-health-secretary

Just like 1.0 Trump and cronies to delete important data
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/02/queer-friendly-data-on-car-crash-deaths-removed-from-nhtsa-website/


Bush Jr was dumb and Cheney was evil. But, this is a million times worse. Trump is dumb and insanely greedy. Musk is evil, but has no moral good he is shooting for, just pain for others and internet lols.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mongo Lloyd on February 13, 2025, 12:25:01 PM
RFK jr was voted in. He will be terrible and will somehow make American health even worse, but the small consolation prize is the possible removal of food dyes and watching Republicans twist between the tobacco companies that own them and our food supply. RJ Reynolds isn't going to enjoy anything that reduces profit. Also, it'll be interesting to see Republicans talk about eating healthy. I lived in rural America for a bit, many of adult men wouldn't eat vegetables.
https://arstechnica.com/health/2025/02/a-sicker-america-senate-confirms-robert-f-kennedy-jr-as-health-secretary

Just like 1.0 Trump and cronies to delete important data
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/02/queer-friendly-data-on-car-crash-deaths-removed-from-nhtsa-website/


Bush Jr was dumb and Cheney was evil. But, this is a million times worse. Trump is dumb and insanely greedy. Musk is evil, but has no moral good he is shooting for, just pain for others and internet lols.

This is what gets me. A country that is owned by business execs and CEO’s are not going to be thrilled by the outcome of the legislation if the result is no one is spending what precious money they have. I’m hoping enough people protest with the dollar, and assume a thrifty role enough that it hurts big businesses across the board. I don’t pretend to know if the tax cuts counter balance this for them, but I can’t imagine a populace not being able to afford basic wares is going to bode well for the bottom line.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: h00man on February 13, 2025, 03:22:31 PM
Any of y’all reading what house democratic/AIPAC bigman Jeffries been saying about folks calling their congress people this week?

you mean how people are calling to tell Dems "fight harder"? Is that what you mean?

If so, what do you expect Dems to do? They don't have any power! They're the minority, because PEOPLE DIDNT VOTE.

If not, then what was it about?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: h00man on February 13, 2025, 04:02:16 PM
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Any of y’all reading what house democratic/AIPAC bigman Jeffries been saying about folks calling their congress people this week?
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you mean how people are calling to tell Dems "fight harder"? Is that what you mean?

If so, what do you expect Dems to do? They don't have any power! They're the minority, because PEOPLE DIDNT VOTE.

If not, then what was it about?
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How I'm interpreting what you've written is that because the D's are the minority party right now, they're either helpless, completely lacking power, and/or can be expected to roll over because they're in the minority. Feel free to clarify and explain if this isn't what you're saying.

That's exactly what I'm saying because they really don't have power. That's how politics work. We live in fascist America. It's what Americans wanted right? The thought of cheaper eggs, gas, groceries and how Kamala is a war monger. America elected a fascist and his fascist cronies and this is what happens when they get power.

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on February 13, 2025, 04:41:02 PM
I wonder what Republicans did in the early days of Biden.

Looking back at old newspaper articles from the first month of Biden's presidency, Manchin and that piece of shit Kyrsten Sinema were in the way. The senate was a 50/50 so even a single democrat defection would end Biden's legislation. Republicans unified against Biden, but weren't able to do much.

As for Obama, he repeated the Bush bailouts, despite all Republicans voting against it.

But--from what I understand from listening to Ezra Klein as this is way out of my league to understand--Trump's actions are weaker and stronger than Biden or Obama. Weaker in the sense that they aren't using congress to actually legislate (yet). It is just a bunch of executive branch shit that can be reversed. It is stronger, because it seems to be an extreme attack on civil servants and congressional power.

Aside from lawsuits, which they are filing, I wonder what technical things they could do to get in the way. Like, this Republican nutsack who blocked military promotions
https://apnews.com/article/senate-military-nominations-holds-tommy-tuberville-e38d853526de044ac59338d32d7a0e10
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Top-Heavy Hookjaw on February 13, 2025, 06:59:04 PM
Any of y’all reading what house democratic/AIPAC bigman Jeffries been saying about folks calling their congress people this week?

Interesting to see that Jeffries’ top donors were AIPAC, Lockheed Martin and Blackrock among others.

https://www.opensecrets.org/members-of-congress/hakeem-jeffries/summary?cid=N00033640

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Billy Bitchcakes on February 14, 2025, 06:46:38 AM
Maybe now is the time to abolish the two party system.
People should work together and not against each other. Pretty basic understanding of a working society. USA is so weird.

I think they might have just done that for you already
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: RichardBarkley on February 14, 2025, 08:59:27 AM
Dear God what is he doing. Carving up Ukraine like a lap dog for Putin.

This scumbag has done so much damage in these short few weeks.

Also I love how he is pulling US troops out of Europe as if we asked for them. It was always for the US benefit. We never asked for them.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: augustmoon on February 14, 2025, 09:52:58 AM
We are owned by Russia.  They’re not even trying to hide it. 

My prediction that we will ally with Russia and China (and Israel) to subjugate the rest of the world is looking more and more likely.

The new world order is now
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mongo Lloyd on February 14, 2025, 09:58:34 AM
We are owned by Russia.  They’re not even trying to hide it. 

My prediction that we will ally with Russia and China (and Israel) to subjugate the rest of the world is looking more and more likely.

The new world order is now

Which is funny, because the right always fear mongers that it was happening behind the scenes and being funded by wealthy radical leftists. Also, it appears they’ve already begun priming for one world currency in the form of crypto.

As they say with these chucklefucks, every accusation is a confession.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: h00man on February 14, 2025, 10:28:03 AM
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Maybe now is the time to abolish the two party system.
People should work together and not against each other. Pretty basic understanding of a working society. USA is so weird.
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I think they might have just done that for you already

I still can't believe people actually think both parties are the same....
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mongo Lloyd on February 14, 2025, 11:00:52 AM
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Maybe now is the time to abolish the two party system.
People should work together and not against each other. Pretty basic understanding of a working society. USA is so weird.
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I think they might have just done that for you already
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I still can't believe people actually think both parties are the same....

Our very own Wane Brady described MAGA as “people with hats we don’t like”.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Top-Heavy Hookjaw on February 14, 2025, 11:21:51 AM
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Maybe now is the time to abolish the two party system.
People should work together and not against each other. Pretty basic understanding of a working society. USA is so weird.
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I think they might have just done that for you already
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I still can't believe people actually think both parties are the same....
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Our very own Wane Brady described MAGA as “people with hats we don’t like”.
Like it’s a sports rivalry… crazy
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on February 14, 2025, 01:06:30 PM
MAGA really thinking the firing of 3400 in Forest Fire Services and 1100 from the VA is a good thing.

They're really the type of people that would go on Legends of the Hidden Temple and be completely stumped by the Shrine of the Silver Monkey.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: LUGR on February 14, 2025, 01:22:38 PM
We are owned by Russia.  They’re not even trying to hide it. 

My prediction that we will ally with Russia and China (and Israel) to subjugate the rest of the world is looking more and more likely.

The new world order is now

This is unfortunately what has been floating around in my mind as what seems like a likely outcome they are working towards.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: alien porkchop on February 14, 2025, 09:32:42 PM
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We are owned by Russia.  They’re not even trying to hide it. 

My prediction that we will ally with Russia and China (and Israel) to subjugate the rest of the world is looking more and more likely.

The new world order is now
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Which is funny, because the right always fear mongers that it was happening behind the scenes and being funded by wealthy radical leftists. Also, it appears they’ve already begun priming for one world currency in the form of crypto.

As they say with these chucklefucks, every accusation is a confession.

would rather lose everything under the plutocrat who duped them than admit they were maybe wrong too
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on February 14, 2025, 10:37:18 PM
Lesser points of fuckery:

Tearing up the Rose Garden to put in a patio
Grand Chandelier in the Oval
Probably installing a ballroom
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: alien porkchop on February 15, 2025, 09:22:06 AM

Victims of Apartheid. Trump has decided White people in S. Africa are the victims and need safe haven in USA. Don't pay attention to the fact that the avg Black S. African family has 5% of the wealth of the avg White S. African family.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-orders-u-s-refugee-resettlement-of-afrikaners/

it all stretches the imagination in some way, but this one is a unique kind of fuckery. to me, this reads like something bannon would dream up, even though it likely originates with elon cylon.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: companguero on February 15, 2025, 11:55:12 AM
Lesser points of fuckery:

Tearing up the Rose Garden to put in a patio
Grand Chandelier in the Oval
Probably installing a ballroom

I wondered if Rfk jr will try to put a kibosh on the diet coke button (https://www.fox7austin.com/news/trump-diet-coke-button-oval-office)
Zevia makes a cola, question is: does it taste like diet coke?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Painted Baby on February 15, 2025, 07:18:57 PM
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Lesser points of fuckery:

Tearing up the Rose Garden to put in a patio
Grand Chandelier in the Oval
Probably installing a ballroom
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I wondered if Rfk jr will try to put a kibosh on the diet coke button (https://www.fox7austin.com/news/trump-diet-coke-button-oval-office)
Zevia makes a cola, question is: does it taste like diet coke?
RFK jr is going to shut the fuck up and and drink his Diet Coke just like he did with the McDonald's. I don't think I can recall a bigger political worm than him, and that's including some of the GOP perennial sad boys like Lindsay Graham and Marco Rubio.

The thing that galls me the most right now is Elon out here calling for judge's impeachment on the grounds that they cannot override executive power. Tell me that you didn't do the bare minimum US civics lessons that go along with your application for US citizenship without telling me you patriot poser.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on February 15, 2025, 07:29:19 PM
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Lesser points of fuckery:

Tearing up the Rose Garden to put in a patio
Grand Chandelier in the Oval
Probably installing a ballroom
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I wondered if Rfk jr will try to put a kibosh on the diet coke button (https://www.fox7austin.com/news/trump-diet-coke-button-oval-office)
Zevia makes a cola, question is: does it taste like diet coke?
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RFK jr is going to shut the fuck up and and drink his Diet Coke just like he did with the McDonald's. I don't think I can recall a bigger political worm than him, and that's including some of the GOP perennial sad boys like Lindsay Graham and Marco Rubio.

The thing that galls me the most right now is Elon out here calling for judge's impeachment on the grounds that they cannot override executive power. Tell me that you didn't do the bare minimum US civics lessons that go along with your application for US citizenship without telling me you patriot poser.

Didn’t Vance say that as well?  Unitary Executive BS.   
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on February 15, 2025, 07:42:21 PM
I find it funny that all the cucks the root for RFK Jr. because he’s going to make food healthier and watch out for the health of our kids are the same people that called Michelle Obama a communist who’s overreaching when she wanted to do the same thing.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: tuesday on February 16, 2025, 12:40:16 AM
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Lesser points of fuckery:

Tearing up the Rose Garden to put in a patio
Grand Chandelier in the Oval
Probably installing a ballroom
[close]

I wondered if Rfk jr will try to put a kibosh on the diet coke button (https://www.fox7austin.com/news/trump-diet-coke-button-oval-office)
Zevia makes a cola, question is: does it taste like diet coke?
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RFK jr is going to shut the fuck up and and drink his Diet Coke just like he did with the McDonald's. I don't think I can recall a bigger political worm than him, and that's including some of the GOP perennial sad boys like Lindsay Graham and Marco Rubio.

The thing that galls me the most right now is Elon out here calling for judge's impeachment on the grounds that they cannot override executive power. Tell me that you didn't do the bare minimum US civics lessons that go along with your application for US citizenship without telling me you patriot poser.
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Didn’t Vance say that as well?  Unitary Executive BS.   

It is aiming to destroy the system of checks and balances. It's a putsch from above.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Sick_McCrank_ on February 16, 2025, 08:42:10 AM
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Maybe now is the time to abolish the two party system.
People should work together and not against each other. Pretty basic understanding of a working society. USA is so weird.
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I think they might have just done that for you already

Not what I mean but I get it.  :-[

Im rather gonna buy Chinese now than any US brands. Fuck this yellow skin fat guy and his Botox/ketamin face buddy. If I met one of them alone in the woods I would Strangle them. Putin too this monkeyface old man.
And I’m a peaceful dude.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: The real veganshawn on February 16, 2025, 01:12:48 PM
We are fucked
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Post by: alien porkchop on February 16, 2025, 06:02:19 PM
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Maybe now is the time to abolish the two party system.
People should work together and not against each other. Pretty basic understanding of a working society. USA is so weird.
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I think they might have just done that for you already
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Not what I mean but I get it.  :-[

Im rather gonna buy Chinese now than any US brands. Fuck this yellow skin fat guy and his Botox/ketamin face buddy. If I met one of them alone in the woods I would Strangle them. Putin too this monkeyface old man.
And I’m a peaceful dude.

ben wittes has an open ended public invitation for putin to come fight him, one on one, anywhere outside of russia or something. he doesn’t strike me as violent man either. but i am pretty sure he is dead serious.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: RichardBarkley on February 18, 2025, 11:03:31 AM
Fucking scumbags everyone one of them

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c743jl8k4kko
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Shapelessness on February 18, 2025, 12:28:11 PM
Bernie of course breaks it all down well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Txe2Zu3QbNU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Txe2Zu3QbNU)
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Fire Air Walk with Me on February 18, 2025, 01:04:45 PM
Bernie and AOC seem like the only ones out there speaking on shit and pushing back
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on February 18, 2025, 02:04:31 PM
Bernie and AOC seem like the only ones out there speaking on shit and pushing back

Chris Murphy (CT) is another good one, but doesn’t have the brand recognition yet
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on February 18, 2025, 03:49:58 PM
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Bernie and AOC seem like the only ones out there speaking on shit and pushing back
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Chris Murphy (CT) is another good one, but doesn’t have the brand recognition yet

Robert Garcia (CA) openly called Leon a dick. I'll call that pushing back. LOL.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: augustmoon on February 18, 2025, 06:39:02 PM
Something really bad is about to happen and I don’t think anyone is at all prepared for the magnitude of it.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mongo Lloyd on February 18, 2025, 07:05:06 PM
Something really bad is about to happen and I don’t think anyone is at all prepared for the magnitude of it.

I mean they’re already exiling non violent immigrants to a communication void concentration camp of Gitmo. I’d argue it can’t get worse than that, but it’s WHO else they wanna add to the pile of immigrants that’s alarming.

The attack on the ADA and Curtis Yarvin’s Soylent Green ideals in regards to the disabled is obviously horrific.

One thing I’m hoping is that humanity will prevail when the shit hits the fan. That our military members will see their brothers and sisters in the faces of the innocent, and that we can prioritize humanity above nationalism and patriotism.

I also don’t see who would wanna work for this unstable version of a government, especially with benefits being gutted (the main draw to working for the federal government).

One thing I wanna make clear too, is this.

What we’re seeing was inevitable. It likely wouldn’t have happened this quickly, but this is absolute end stage capitalism. When the floodgates that kept corporate money out of politics was opened is when the rot slowly crept in.

*yes, Chris Murphy is my Senator. Many of us are very proud of the work he’s doing, even through receiving very personal threats*
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Marion Stoked on February 19, 2025, 02:02:07 AM
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Something really bad is about to happen and I don’t think anyone is at all prepared for the magnitude of it.
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One thing I’m hoping is that humanity will prevail when the shit hits the fan.


I really used to be this optimistic, until Charlottesville. Really. When you had Nazis marching through a town square in the US screaming "Jews will not replace us." Everything else has just been inevitably downhill from there.

As shitty as it sounds, there could even be some fucked up argument made for the Germans (from top to bottom) during Nazism, that is, they didn't have the benefit of history to learn from. "How do we know Hitler is a fucking psychopathic maniac hellbent on systematically wiping out millions of innocent people? How do we know his genocide programme isn't a good thing? Have we tried it before?"

Fast forward and you have some asshole doing Nazi salutes behind the seal of the US on national television, Nazis marching through cities in the US with impunity and a repeat (resurgence) of the grotesque beliefs that resulted in one of the most significant tragedies of the 20th century, even when we have the information and hindsight to know what this type of ideology leads to. Metaphorically pissing on the graves of all those who lost their lives and subsequently, those who dedicated literal decades of their lives to understanding how such a thing could even come to pass in the first place. Sickening really. Could you imagine if Elie Wiesel was alive to see this shit?

It only took, what? 90 years? Cool. Even with the internet we couldn't prevent it. Look forward to the year 2115 when we start rounding up and wiping out droves of people because they have thick eyebrows, or some other fucking brainless excuse that we come up with because some power hungry bag of shit who wasn't loved enough just so happened to be in the right place at the right time. 

Even if the US somehow makes it out of this, this experiment has been done before. How long until it happens again? "We've run out of fat-free chili! Kill the immigrants!"


I think it's wise to never underestimate the destructive power of sheer human stupidity. And the fact that curtis yarvin has a wife and children is proof enough for me that god doesn't exist. Sorry John Motta.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mongo Lloyd on February 19, 2025, 06:34:02 AM
What you have to remember is Trump is just a figurehead for the 2 main groups pulling at the puppet strings. This is the heritage foundation which wants a white Christian fascist state, and the techno-fascist tech-bro group (your Elon, Curtis Yarvin, Peter Theil, etc.). These groups while wanting similar results, don’t want the same exact results. Hell! They probably don’t even at all like eachother (look no further than Steve Bannon’s public statements about Elon).

The right is so extreme and full of hatred that they will eventually turn on each other, and the factions and gaps will widen. A platform of hate will never be a successful long term platform of governance, because the beast continually and constantly needs to be fed. I don’t see things NOT unraveling, it’s just that the damage in the meantime is going to be massive.

All of this, and I haven’t even touched on economic impact of a marginalized and oppressed society of the lower classes. Corporations and ceos are not going to be thrilled if their bottom line isn’t being met, and that there’s no business or market happening because people simply can’t afford wares. There’s gonna be a lot of unhappy ceos when they realize a policy of fascism is bad for business.

There’s just simply too many micro factors to make this as swift or easy as the kind of thing Curtis Yarvin writes about. Plus, no one is going to listen to a D&D dork barking orders or trying to command a country.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Fire Air Walk with Me on February 19, 2025, 07:20:48 AM
The technobros are legit trying to collapse society so they can build their techno utopian network states - e.g https://www.praxisnation.com/. The religious right just wants their select in group to goto heaven or whatever and whoever doesn't align gets to burn on hell / earth. Karl Marx never dropped an album but he was on some heat with this one - History repeats itself, first as tragedy, second as farce.

At least we in the farce phase. Anyways I'm not sure what the move is besides community building and holding the line however that looks like.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: tuesday on February 19, 2025, 09:31:56 AM
Trump making America Russia great again.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: S. on February 19, 2025, 09:39:29 AM
What you have to remember is Trump is just a figurehead for the 2 main groups pulling at the puppet strings. This is the heritage foundation which wants a white Christian fascist state, and the techno-fascist tech-bro group (your Elon, Curtis Yarvin, Peter Theil, etc.). These groups while wanting similar results, don’t want the same exact results. Hell! They probably don’t even at all like eachother (look no further than Steve Bannon’s public statements about Elon).

The right is so extreme and full of hatred that they will eventually turn on each other, and the factions and gaps will widen. A platform of hate will never be a successful long term platform of governance, because the beast continually and constantly needs to be fed. I don’t see things NOT unraveling, it’s just that the damage in the meantime is going to be massive.

All of this, and I haven’t even touched on economic impact of a marginalized and oppressed society of the lower classes. Corporations and ceos are not going to be thrilled if their bottom line isn’t being met, and that there’s no business or market happening because people simply can’t afford wares. There’s gonna be a lot of unhappy ceos when they realize a policy of fascism is bad for business.

There’s just simply too many micro factors to make this as swift or easy as the kind of thing Curtis Yarvin writes about. Plus, no one is going to listen to a D&D dork barking orders or trying to command a country.


That’s what I am worried about. Infighting does not have to mean the end of a movement. One side might turn on the other when they are not useful anymore eliminating the other and unify the movement. And continuous expansion of a movement of hate does not mean it will exhaust itself after victory it could also expand further and lead to genocide or war.

Look at the outcome of other fascist movements. Look at Nazi Germany, fascist Italy or Spain.

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Scab Picker on February 19, 2025, 09:46:25 AM
Trump making America Russia great again.
Calling Zelenskyy a dictator when he tried to overthrow democracy is wild. Blaming Ukraine for starting the war is fucking stupid, but he knows what he’s doing. He wants to bootlick for Putin because he thinks he can get access to mine for resources in Ukrainian regions seized by Russia. This is probably being pushed by the tech bros who bought the election.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: h00man on February 19, 2025, 10:46:03 AM
United States has officially bent the knee to Russia.

Congrats everyone!
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on February 19, 2025, 10:51:53 AM
United States has officially bent the knee to Russia.

Congrats everyone!

You mean bent over and spread its cheeks to Russia I assume?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: brycickle on February 19, 2025, 11:00:14 AM
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Trump making America Russia great again.
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Calling Zelenskyy a dictator when he tried to overthrow democracy is wild. Blaming Ukraine for starting the war is fucking stupid, but he knows what he’s doing. He wants to bootlick for Putin because he thinks he can get access to mine for resources in Ukrainian regions seized by Russia. This is probably being pushed by the tech bros who bought the election.

In addition, I think we can all agree that we would be better off if Poland hadn't started WW2.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mongo Lloyd on February 19, 2025, 11:07:18 AM
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What you have to remember is Trump is just a figurehead for the 2 main groups pulling at the puppet strings. This is the heritage foundation which wants a white Christian fascist state, and the techno-fascist tech-bro group (your Elon, Curtis Yarvin, Peter Theil, etc.). These groups while wanting similar results, don’t want the same exact results. Hell! They probably don’t even at all like eachother (look no further than Steve Bannon’s public statements about Elon).

The right is so extreme and full of hatred that they will eventually turn on each other, and the factions and gaps will widen. A platform of hate will never be a successful long term platform of governance, because the beast continually and constantly needs to be fed. I don’t see things NOT unraveling, it’s just that the damage in the meantime is going to be massive.

All of this, and I haven’t even touched on economic impact of a marginalized and oppressed society of the lower classes. Corporations and ceos are not going to be thrilled if their bottom line isn’t being met, and that there’s no business or market happening because people simply can’t afford wares. There’s gonna be a lot of unhappy ceos when they realize a policy of fascism is bad for business.

There’s just simply too many micro factors to make this as swift or easy as the kind of thing Curtis Yarvin writes about. Plus, no one is going to listen to a D&D dork barking orders or trying to command a country.

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That’s what I am worried about. Infighting does not have to mean the end of a movement. One side might turn on the other when they are not useful anymore eliminating the other and unify the movement. And continuous expansion of a movement of hate does not mean it will exhaust itself after victory it could also expand further and lead to genocide or war.

Look at the outcome of other fascist movements. Look at Nazi Germany, fascist Italy or Spain.

The problem is, there’s going to be zero incentive for anyone to do the legwork or groundwork of executing their plans. What’s going to happen is that everybody who isn’t extremely wealthy is going to be suffocated and facing sufferage. Everybody is going to know someone who either dies, loses their housing, or suffers under the weight of the policies. Who is going to be compelled to fight on behalf of those causing the suffering? Yes, I get that the media is commandeered to fit their agenda, but suffering becoming a personal struggle is going to wake many of these people up to the truths.
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Post by: h00man on February 19, 2025, 11:09:50 AM
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United States has officially bent the knee to Russia.

Congrats everyone!
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You mean bent over and spread its cheeks to Russia I assume?

full spread and begging.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: WashingtonNECKTIE on February 19, 2025, 11:35:28 AM
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Something really bad is about to happen and I don’t think anyone is at all prepared for the magnitude of it.
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I also don’t see who would wanna work for this unstable version of a government, especially with benefits being gutted (the main draw to working for the federal government).


I’m holding my ground at my low GS fed job, knowing I could get canned at any moment. I’m not quitting or resigning only for my sense of duty to the American people the agency was founded for, and tons of spite for the “move fast and break stuff” approach.

Mostly hoping this administration shoots itself in the foot badly enough it bleeds out any support. Again, not holding my breath, just holding the line.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on February 19, 2025, 12:20:10 PM
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Something really bad is about to happen and I don’t think anyone is at all prepared for the magnitude of it.
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I also don’t see who would wanna work for this unstable version of a government, especially with benefits being gutted (the main draw to working for the federal government).

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I’m holding my ground at my low GS fed job, knowing I could get canned at any moment. I’m not quitting or resigning only for my sense of duty to the American people the agency was founded for, and tons of spite for the “move fast and break stuff” approach.

Mostly hoping this administration shoots itself in the foot badly enough it bleeds out any support. Again, not holding my breath, just holding the line.

Gnarring for integrity. Stand the line and I hope your job isn't cut.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on February 19, 2025, 12:21:02 PM
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United States has officially bent the knee to Russia.

Congrats everyone!
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You mean bent over and spread its cheeks to Russia I assume?
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full spread and begging.

(https://i.gifer.com/1Mbl.gif)
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on February 19, 2025, 12:24:07 PM
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Trump making America Russia great again.
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Calling Zelenskyy a dictator when he tried to overthrow democracy is wild. Blaming Ukraine for starting the war is fucking stupid, but he knows what he’s doing. He wants to bootlick for Putin because he thinks he can get access to mine for resources in Ukrainian regions seized by Russia. This is probably being pushed by the tech bros who bought the election.
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In addition, I think we can all agree that we would be better off if Poland hadn't started WW2.

Damned Canned Goods.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mongo Lloyd on February 19, 2025, 12:25:58 PM
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Something really bad is about to happen and I don’t think anyone is at all prepared for the magnitude of it.
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I also don’t see who would wanna work for this unstable version of a government, especially with benefits being gutted (the main draw to working for the federal government).

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I’m holding my ground at my low GS fed job, knowing I could get canned at any moment. I’m not quitting or resigning only for my sense of duty to the American people the agency was founded for, and tons of spite for the “move fast and break stuff” approach.

Mostly hoping this administration shoots itself in the foot badly enough it bleeds out any support. Again, not holding my breath, just holding the line.

Hell fucking yeah, dude! I don’t expect anyone to sacrifice beyond their means, but I was hoping we’d have some true unwavering patriots in positions who refuse to buckle!

Huge respect!
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: WashingtonNECKTIE on February 19, 2025, 12:50:10 PM
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Something really bad is about to happen and I don’t think anyone is at all prepared for the magnitude of it.
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I also don’t see who would wanna work for this unstable version of a government, especially with benefits being gutted (the main draw to working for the federal government).

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I’m holding my ground at my low GS fed job, knowing I could get canned at any moment. I’m not quitting or resigning only for my sense of duty to the American people the agency was founded for, and tons of spite for the “move fast and break stuff” approach.

Mostly hoping this administration shoots itself in the foot badly enough it bleeds out any support. Again, not holding my breath, just holding the line.
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Hell fucking yeah, dude! I don’t expect anyone to sacrifice beyond their means, but I was hoping we’d have some true unwavering patriots in positions who refuse to buckle!

Huge respect!

Thanks for the props, Mongo and Tasty. Luckily I'm currently exempt, but who knows...

Don't want to get too specific, but I work facing the public, more or less, in a dept that is largely supported by the public and most politicians (conditionally). If my position gets terminated, I feel like it's a(nother....) barometer of the changes they want to implement. If that's the case, at least I won't have anything barring me from speaking out more loudly. Such a weird spot to be in, feels like I'm sitting on the fence until I get litigiously pushed over one side, but the cause of the dept is noble and I gotta look out for myself and my family.

God speed USA.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on February 19, 2025, 02:40:07 PM
It has been too distressing to catalog everything, but Trump's actions related to Ukraine/Russia are disgusting.

He is giving Russia everything that they could have ever hoped for (and more), while ensuring Ukraine gets absolutely nothing. Trump, Vance, Musk, Thiel, etc. view the West as the enemy. They are making it clear that they have complete disdain for everything the Allies stood for and would have fought on the side of the Axis in WWII. Remember this Ukraine war is directly Ukraine v Russia/N. Korea. We are rooting for the N. Korean side.

Russia was doing well in terms of gaining land in Ukraine, but watching Russia--a country has struggled to even maintain its population since 1994--weaken itself by losing working age men and waste resources on war has been a benefit to the West. The key benefit to them has been learning a lot about drone warfare.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on February 19, 2025, 03:01:58 PM
It has been proposed (Bernie Sanders said this the other day) Musk might be trying to privatize everything so he can profit off it. The easiest example being SpaceX taking over for the FAA.

Musk built his wealth off of the American government and seems to want more and more of our money, while making sure the US government gives him and other too wealthy people tax breaks, while cutting the most basic needs based programs for everyday people.

I'm so fucking sick of the cycle of conservatives saying, "Why are spending money on [Ukraine, homeless people, immigrants, safety, whatever], we should be spending it on 'Americans'" and then cut all the things that help Americans.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Top-Heavy Hookjaw on February 19, 2025, 03:15:55 PM
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Something really bad is about to happen and I don’t think anyone is at all prepared for the magnitude of it.
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One thing I’m hoping is that humanity will prevail when the shit hits the fan.

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I really used to be this optimistic, until Charlottesville. Really. When you had Nazis marching through a town square in the US screaming "Jews will not replace us." Everything else has just been inevitably downhill from there.

As shitty as it sounds, there could even be some fucked up argument made for the Germans (from top to bottom) during Nazism, that is, they didn't have the benefit of history to learn from. "How do we know Hitler is a fucking psychopathic maniac hellbent on systematically wiping out millions of innocent people? How do we know his genocide programme isn't a good thing? Have we tried it before?"

Fast forward and you have some asshole doing Nazi salutes behind the seal of the US on national television, Nazis marching through cities in the US with impunity and a repeat (resurgence) of the grotesque beliefs that resulted in one of the most significant tragedies of the 20th century, even when we have the information and hindsight to know what this type of ideology leads to. Metaphorically pissing on the graves of all those who lost their lives and subsequently, those who dedicated literal decades of their lives to understanding how such a thing could even come to pass in the first place. Sickening really. Could you imagine if Elie Wiesel was alive to see this shit?

It only took, what? 90 years? Cool. Even with the internet we couldn't prevent it. Look forward to the year 2115 when we start rounding up and wiping out droves of people because they have thick eyebrows, or some other fucking brainless excuse that we come up with because some power hungry bag of shit who wasn't loved enough just so happened to be in the right place at the right time. 

Even if the US somehow makes it out of this, this experiment has been done before. How long until it happens again? "We've run out of fat-free chili! Kill the immigrants!"


I think it's wise to never underestimate the destructive power of sheer human stupidity. And the fact that curtis yarvin has a wife and children is proof enough for me that god doesn't exist. Sorry John Motta.

The Germans did have history to learn from and Hitler himself looked to history for inspiration.
World War 1 was not that far in the rear view and the Armenian Genocide was the worst atrocity of that era.

“Who, after all, speaks today of the annihilation of the Armenians?”
- Adolf Hitler

https://genocideeducation.org/background/hitler-and-the-armenian-genocide/

History keeps repeating itself not out of ignorance but because madmen know they can get away with it.





Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: augustmoon on February 19, 2025, 03:32:54 PM
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Something really bad is about to happen and I don’t think anyone is at all prepared for the magnitude of it.
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I also don’t see who would wanna work for this unstable version of a government, especially with benefits being gutted (the main draw to working for the federal government).

[close]

I’m holding my ground at my low GS fed job, knowing I could get canned at any moment. I’m not quitting or resigning only for my sense of duty to the American people the agency was founded for, and tons of spite for the “move fast and break stuff” approach.

Mostly hoping this administration shoots itself in the foot badly enough it bleeds out any support. Again, not holding my breath, just holding the line.

Same.  Gonna keep showing up as long as my PIV card still gets me in the building.  We took an oath, and I take it seriously.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on February 19, 2025, 08:05:15 PM
Same.  Gonna keep showing up as long as my PIV card still gets me in the building.  We took an oath, and I take it seriously.

Anyone in the federal gov holding the line for the constitution/Americans deserves some series recognition.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UczqHLeRdNg&list=PLdMrbgYfVl-s16D_iT2BJCJ90pWtTO1A4&index=1
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: h00man on February 19, 2025, 08:39:38 PM
to all my Federal employee pals, I'm sorry this is happening.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: LUGR on February 19, 2025, 09:34:20 PM
Maybe I missed it, but really bothers me that I have not heard even one of the three former presidents speak up against what has been happening over the past weeks.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on February 19, 2025, 10:03:19 PM
Maybe I missed it, but really bothers me that I have not heard even one of the three former presidents speak up against what has been happening over the past weeks.

Obama would be the only one of those four that would, but ex-Presidents tend not to criticize or make many political comments after their terms.  He said plenty on the campaign trail, but I don’t know what it would serve.   Nothing would excite maga people more than hearing Obama complain about them.  They can bury the news cycle in attacking back and making a meal out of the Jennifer Aniston rumors
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: LUGR on February 19, 2025, 11:15:41 PM
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Maybe I missed it, but really bothers me that I have not heard even one of the three former presidents speak up against what has been happening over the past weeks.
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Obama would be the only one of those four that would, but ex-Presidents tend not to criticize or make many political comments after their terms.  He said plenty on the campaign trail, but I don’t know what it would serve.   Nothing would excite maga people more than hearing Obama complain about them.  They can bury the news cycle in attacking back and making a meal out of the Jennifer Aniston rumors

Yeah, and most sitting presidents tend not to disregard the constitution and put themselves above the law. You are definitely right about MAGA getting juicy about being able to complain about Obama complaining about Trump. I just would have liked to see them stand up and be part of the fight against what is going on. Would like to see every person of influence speak up about this shit.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mr. Pickles on February 19, 2025, 11:32:51 PM
I’ve kind of had my head in the sand the last month, but I’ve noticed that even the pro trump people at work and even in my family are having a hard time with everything happening.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on February 20, 2025, 12:17:59 AM
I’ve kind of had my head in the sand the last month, but I’ve noticed that even the pro trump people at work and even in my family are having a hard time with everything happening.

Keep reminding them that they wanted all of this and say “I hope you have the day you voted for.”

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: RichardBarkley on February 20, 2025, 08:29:00 AM
 I don't think a country has ever lost as much soft power than America has in the past month.

Utterly insane.

What they are doing with Ukraine is utterly reprehensible.

It's crazy how many Americans are fine with the whole world hating them.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on February 20, 2025, 09:39:17 AM
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President Donald Trump wants to abolish the Internal Revenue Service and create an “external” revenue service that will somehow force the rest of the world to fund the U.S. government, according to his newly confirmed commerce secretary.

“His goal is to abolish the Internal Revenue Service and let all the outsiders pay,” Howard Lutnick told Fox News host Jesse Watters on Wednesday night.

Good god, we're going to be fucked. And when he kills income tax and tariffs don't work, watch him implement a national sales tax to make up for funding.

He'll say it'll be everyone paying the same, fair price, but people forget that millionaires and billionaires aren't buying essentials as often as lower class people. Then add to that (let's assume) a 23% federal sales tax will hit harder on those making less than making more.

Man, his supporters are fucking dumb. They voted for these shenanigans and we're all going to pay for it so that billionaires can live larger.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: h00man on February 20, 2025, 10:42:39 AM
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President Donald Trump wants to abolish the Internal Revenue Service and create an “external” revenue service that will somehow force the rest of the world to fund the U.S. government, according to his newly confirmed commerce secretary.

“His goal is to abolish the Internal Revenue Service and let all the outsiders pay,” Howard Lutnick told Fox News host Jesse Watters on Wednesday night.
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Man, his supporters are fucking dumb. They voted for these shenanigans and we're all going to pay for it so that billionaires can live larger.

Hold up, you're telling me that this wasn't about the cost of groceries and gas getting lower?????
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on February 20, 2025, 10:44:29 AM
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President Donald Trump wants to abolish the Internal Revenue Service and create an “external” revenue service that will somehow force the rest of the world to fund the U.S. government, according to his newly confirmed commerce secretary.

“His goal is to abolish the Internal Revenue Service and let all the outsiders pay,” Howard Lutnick told Fox News host Jesse Watters on Wednesday night.
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Man, his supporters are fucking dumb. They voted for these shenanigans and we're all going to pay for it so that billionaires can live larger.
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Hold up, you're telling me that this wasn't about the cost of groceries and gas getting lower?????

Gas and groceries are going lower. Not in price, just in priority for the GOP.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on February 20, 2025, 10:52:21 AM
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President Donald Trump wants to abolish the Internal Revenue Service and create an “external” revenue service that will somehow force the rest of the world to fund the U.S. government, according to his newly confirmed commerce secretary.

“His goal is to abolish the Internal Revenue Service and let all the outsiders pay,” Howard Lutnick told Fox News host Jesse Watters on Wednesday night.
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Man, his supporters are fucking dumb. They voted for these shenanigans and we're all going to pay for it so that billionaires can live larger.
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Hold up, you're telling me that this wasn't about the cost of groceries and gas getting lower?????
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Gas and groceries are going lower. Not in price, just in priority for the GOP.


Hard for the price of eggs to go down when they fired all the people working on bird flu (and now have to scramble to re-hire them)



Will be interesting to see the reaction to DOGE checks giving back “government excess”
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: h00man on February 20, 2025, 11:03:24 AM
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President Donald Trump wants to abolish the Internal Revenue Service and create an “external” revenue service that will somehow force the rest of the world to fund the U.S. government, according to his newly confirmed commerce secretary.

“His goal is to abolish the Internal Revenue Service and let all the outsiders pay,” Howard Lutnick told Fox News host Jesse Watters on Wednesday night.
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Man, his supporters are fucking dumb. They voted for these shenanigans and we're all going to pay for it so that billionaires can live larger.
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Hold up, you're telling me that this wasn't about the cost of groceries and gas getting lower?????
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Gas and groceries are going lower. Not in price, just in priority for the GOP.
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Will be interesting to see the reaction to DOGE checks giving back “government excess”

It could just be a ruse for them to keep cutting federal jobs. This way, his supporters will always say "look, he's trying to give us money, keep slashing jobs", even if the checks never come.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on February 20, 2025, 11:04:15 AM
Those DOGE checks are all talk.

Like when Musk said he was going to make a sub to rescue those kids in Thailand who were trapped in a cave, but instead just called the person who did rescue those kids a pedo.

Or when Musk said he'd build ventilators for hospitals during the peak of COVID and instead did jack shit.

Yea, I'm sure people will be seeing those checks.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on February 20, 2025, 11:34:10 AM
Those DOGE checks are all talk.

Like when Musk said he was going to make a sub to rescue those kids in Thailand who were trapped in a cave, but instead just called the person who did rescue those kids a pedo.

Or when Musk said he'd build ventilators for hospitals during the peak of COVID and instead did jack shit.

Yea, I'm sure people will be seeing those checks.


Don’t forget solving world hunger for 6 Billion!
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Too Frank To Fred on February 20, 2025, 01:18:23 PM
As an immigrant and a dad of young woman who tried to end her life, this one cuts so fuckin' deep.

https://www.democracynow.org/2025/2/20/headlines/11_year_old_texas_girl_dies_by_suicide_after_bullies_threaten_to_call_ice_on_her_parents (https://www.democracynow.org/2025/2/20/headlines/11_year_old_texas_girl_dies_by_suicide_after_bullies_threaten_to_call_ice_on_her_parents)
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on February 20, 2025, 01:24:05 PM
As an immigrant and a dad of young woman who tried to end her life, this one cuts so fuckin' deep.

https://www.democracynow.org/2025/2/20/headlines/11_year_old_texas_girl_dies_by_suicide_after_bullies_threaten_to_call_ice_on_her_parents (https://www.democracynow.org/2025/2/20/headlines/11_year_old_texas_girl_dies_by_suicide_after_bullies_threaten_to_call_ice_on_her_parents)

Worst part is the school knew about the bullying and the girl needing to go to the school counselor multiple times a week because of it and they failed to do anything, including inform her parents of what's going on.

The administration of that school was as complicit in this girl's death as those bullies, but seeing it's Texas and the victim is of a migrant origin, they're just going to move on with their day.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on February 20, 2025, 01:29:03 PM
lol,

We saved a tiny fraction of the annual spend, we are going to increase the debt/deficit by making sure billionaires pay less tax, we are going to cancel medicaid and eventually social security, but here is 5K to get you to look the other way.


All of this reminds me of when Arizona had all Republican control. They decided to sell the fucking capitol and rent it from a private company then had to buy it back. It just funneled tons of tax dollars into a private company's pocket.
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/01/arizona-wants-buy-back-state-capitol-it-inexplicably-sold/
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on February 20, 2025, 10:00:48 PM
John Oliver stole our thread title  ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cw0F8G4-dMw
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Painted Baby on February 21, 2025, 01:40:50 AM
Those DOGE checks are all talk.

Like when Musk said he was going to make a sub to rescue those kids in Thailand who were trapped in a cave, but instead just called the person who did rescue those kids a pedo.

Or when Musk said he'd build ventilators for hospitals during the peak of COVID and instead did jack shit.

Yea, I'm sure people will be seeing those checks.
Or when he said he was going to build a high speed tube from LA to SF so they diverted public money that would have gone to a proper bullet train and then got a bunch of student interns to design it and it petered out so the whole thing just went away

Or when he said he could help ease LA and ultimately all cities traffic by building traffic tunnels but the engineers again were students and he wasn't too interested ultimately so he pocketed a bunch of money that would have gone to improving our woeful public transit and then that also just kinda went away.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on February 21, 2025, 08:51:28 AM
How bout fort knox?

My bet is that they say it’s empty, thus decimating perceived and real value of the paper dollar, paving the way for a national virtual or crypto currency.


My bet is Goldfinger accidentally aired on Fox News
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Rusty Shackleford on February 21, 2025, 09:31:13 AM
the USPS is not donalds to give away. it absolutely needs to be changed; maybe hit the streets less frequently..and anyone who's ever delivered will tell you how top-heavy they are. way too many supervisors and PM generals.
but like all of his other cuts, this is not the right way to do it
my money is on bezos getting that contract and surprise surprise things get alot more expensive/complicated
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on February 21, 2025, 09:36:45 AM
the USPS is not donalds to give away. it absolutely needs to be changed; maybe hit the streets less frequently..and anyone who's ever delivered will tell you how top-heavy they are. way too many supervisors and PM generals.
but like all of his other cuts, this is not the right way to do it
my money is on bezos getting that contract and surprise surprise things get alot more expensive/complicated


Again a move that seems targeted to hurt traditional red voters (old folks and people in rural areas). 
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on February 21, 2025, 09:52:13 AM
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the USPS is not donalds to give away. it absolutely needs to be changed; maybe hit the streets less frequently..and anyone who's ever delivered will tell you how top-heavy they are. way too many supervisors and PM generals.
but like all of his other cuts, this is not the right way to do it
my money is on bezos getting that contract and surprise surprise things get alot more expensive/complicated
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Again a move that seems targeted to hurt traditional red voters (old folks and people in rural areas).

I'm not going to say targeting them, but they are for sure the fortunes of war.

He's targeting blue states -- CA and NY -- like removing funding for the high speed rail (one which Elon diverted to himself at some point and just targeted -- remember Hyperloop?)

But yea, privatizing mail is going to be something that will hopefully bite him in the butt. Especially when rural people can't get meds sent to them or their Amazon packages, etc.

But yea, let those voters have the day they voted for.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Fire Air Walk with Me on February 21, 2025, 11:35:53 AM
I mean he's already got all he needs from rural voters. He's in office. Now it's just privatize everything and profit.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: LUGR on February 21, 2025, 04:43:41 PM
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Those DOGE checks are all talk.

Like when Musk said he was going to make a sub to rescue those kids in Thailand who were trapped in a cave, but instead just called the person who did rescue those kids a pedo.

Or when Musk said he'd build ventilators for hospitals during the peak of COVID and instead did jack shit.

Yea, I'm sure people will be seeing those checks.
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Or when he said he was going to build a high speed tube from LA to SF so they diverted public money that would have gone to a proper bullet train and then got a bunch of student interns to design it and it petered out so the whole thing just went away

Or when he said he could help ease LA and ultimately all cities traffic by building traffic tunnels but the engineers again were students and he wasn't too interested ultimately so he pocketed a bunch of money that would have gone to improving our woeful public transit and then that also just kinda went away.

This guys takes on his projects are great.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ACXaFyB_-8s (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ACXaFyB_-8s)

 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=R6RaoGHZC3A&t=618s (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=R6RaoGHZC3A&t=618s)
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Rosstradahmus on February 21, 2025, 05:09:19 PM
How bout fort knox?

My bet is that they say it’s empty, thus decimating perceived and real value of the paper dollar, paving the way for a national virtual or crypto currency.

The US gold reserves are in not way connected to the value of the dollar anymore. "Petrodollars", over 800 foreign military bases and treasury bonds are what's backing it. If the Saudis do away with the petrodollar policy which they have been talking about since before Trump's election then yes the US dollar will be worthless.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Scab Picker on February 22, 2025, 09:57:41 AM
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/trump-kristi-noem-200-million-dhs-ad-campaign-thanks-president-1235276324/
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: augustmoon on February 22, 2025, 04:41:20 PM
lol Musk now says we all need to respond to him by Monday night detailing what we “did in the last week” in response to Trump’s demand that he “get more aggressive”   Sent out on a Saturday after business hours so if you don’t work Monday and don’t respond to the email you will be considered “resigned”. 

This is being used as a pretense to mass fire workers.  At my job, this is going to lead to delay in patient care which will ultimately lead to dead veterans.

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on February 22, 2025, 05:21:18 PM
lol Musk now says we all need to respond to him by Monday night detailing what we “did in the last week” in response to Trump’s demand that he “get more aggressive”   Sent out on a Saturday after business hours so if you don’t work Monday and don’t respond to the email you will be considered “resigned”. 

This is being used as a pretense to mass fire workers.  At my job, this is going to lead to delay in patient care which will ultimately lead to dead veterans.

I'm sorry. This is ridiculous for you and awful for the vets.

They also fired a bunch of FDA workers who specifically worked on medical devices. There is a device that is going through FDA approval that may alleivate some versions of tinnitus, you know the most common veteran disability.
https://www.research.va.gov/topics/hearing.cfm

Republican politicians (and possibly a good portion of everyday republicans) never cared about the troops or vets. They just liked the image of the military and it is was good way to virtue signal nationalism.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: augustmoon on February 22, 2025, 05:26:37 PM
That’s sucks about the medical device.  I just read that hearing loss (and I’m assuming tinnitus) is a contributing factor to early onset dementia and seems to affect vets disproportionally. 

In my area we can’t afford to lose a single worker.  It takes so long to hire anyone with so many hoops to jump through that any reduction in force will be untenable and will lead to bad patient outcomes.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on February 22, 2025, 05:31:38 PM
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lol Musk now says we all need to respond to him by Monday night detailing what we “did in the last week” in response to Trump’s demand that he “get more aggressive”   Sent out on a Saturday after business hours so if you don’t work Monday and don’t respond to the email you will be considered “resigned”. 

This is being used as a pretense to mass fire workers.  At my job, this is going to lead to delay in patient care which will ultimately lead to dead veterans.
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I'm sorry. This is ridiculous for you and awful for the vets.

They also fired a bunch of FDA workers who specifically worked on medical devices. There is a device that is going through FDA approval that may alleivate some versions of tinnitus, you know the most common veteran disability.
https://www.research.va.gov/topics/hearing.cfm

Republican politicians (and possibly a good portion of everyday republicans) never cared about the troops or vets. They just liked the image of the military and it is was good way to virtue signal nationalism.


Saw that mass firings are also happening at the CIA.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on February 22, 2025, 05:34:03 PM
I wonder if this will awaken Congress at all.

Military, CIA, and FBI are all government institutions that are overwhelmingly conservative. I wonder if there will be pushback or if it'll be like 9/11 first responders, swept under the rug and ignored unless a Jon Stewart like character shows up and forces Republicans to give a shit about the actual people in military and federal law enforcement.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/09/30/military-veterans-remain-a-republican-group-backing-trump-over-harris-by-wide-margin/
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: augustmoon on February 22, 2025, 05:40:35 PM
I wonder if this will awaken Congress at all.

Military, CIA, and FBI are all government institutions that are overwhelmingly conservative. I wonder if there will be pushback or if it'll be like 9/11 first responders, swept under the rug and ignored unless a Jon Stewart like character shows up and forces Republicans to give a shit about the actual people in military and federal law enforcement.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/09/30/military-veterans-remain-a-republican-group-backing-trump-over-harris-by-wide-margin/


I think there is realistically only one thing that will stop all of this and it’s not something I can say in writing on a public forum. 
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: pugmaster on February 22, 2025, 06:59:46 PM
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Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Too Frank To Fred on February 22, 2025, 07:14:20 PM
Now more than ever, we need to support this type of journalism

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/21/upshot/doge-musk-trump-errors.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/21/upshot/doge-musk-trump-errors.html)

DOGE’s Only Public Ledger Is Riddled With Mistakes
The figures from Elon Musk’s team of outsiders represent billions in government cuts. They are also full of accounting errors, outdated data and other miscalculations.
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Elon Musk has been a central figure in the first month of the Trump administration.Credit...Eric Lee/The New York Times
Aatish BhatiaEmily BadgerDavid A. FahrentholdJosh KatzMargot Sanger-KatzEthan Singer
By Aatish BhatiaEmily BadgerDavid A. FahrentholdJosh KatzMargot Sanger-Katz and Ethan Singer
The reporters reviewed hundreds of federal contracts, interviewed contracting experts and spoke to recipients of canceled contracts.
Published Feb. 21, 2025
Updated Feb. 22, 2025, 4:17 p.m. ET

Elon Musk and his Department of Government Efficiency say they have saved the federal government $55 billion through staff reductions, lease cancellations and a long list of terminated contracts published online this week as a “wall of receipts.”

President Trump has been celebrating the published savings, even musing about a proposal to mail checks to all Americans to reimburse them with a “DOGE dividend.”

But the math that could back up those checks is marred with accounting errors, incorrect assumptions, outdated data and other mistakes, according to a New York Times analysis of all the contracts listed. While the DOGE team has surely cut some number of billions of dollars, its slapdash accounting adds to a pattern of recklessness by the group, which has recently gained access to sensitive government payment systems.

Some contracts the group claims credit for were double- or triple-counted. Another initially contained an error that inflated the totals by billions of dollars. In at least one instance, the group claimed an entire contract had been canceled when only part of the work had been halted. In others, contracts the group said it had closed were actually ended under the Biden administration.


The canceled contracts listed on the website make up a small part of the $55 billion total that the group estimated it had found so far. It was not possible to independently verify that number or other totals on the site with the evidence provided. A senior White House official described how the office made its calculations on individual contracts, but did not respond to numerous questions about other aspects of the group’s accounting. But it is clear that every dollar the website claims credit for is not necessarily a dollar the federal government would have spent — or one that can now be returned to the public.
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A screenshot of the DOGE site’s “wall of receipts” on Friday.
The mistakes touched a wide range of contracts — some worth hundreds of millions of dollars and others worth just a few thousand.

David Reid, an environmental scientist in Michigan, was surprised to learn his contract studying invasive species in the St. Lawrence Seaway was included on the list. “That contract wasn’t canceled by DOGE or anyone else,” he said. The contract expired on Dec. 31 and he decided to retire and not renew it, he said. “If they took credit for canceling the contract, they’re lying.”


The group claimed $25,000 in savings from his project.

Though the group’s public messaging has focused on the efficiency in its name, most of the canceled contracts appear to relate to other administration priorities, such as the shuttering of U.S.A.I.D. and the elimination of government programs on diversity, equity and inclusion. The cancellations listed come disproportionately from businesses run by women and people from minority groups.
Share of minority-owned businesses
Among contracts DOGE claims it canceled   
26%
Among all federal contracts   
12%
Source: DOGE, Federal Procurement Data System DOGE figures reflect 1,123 contracts listed on its website on Feb. 21 that could be linked to a federal contract. Federal contract figures are based on an analysis by Deltek.
The numerous mistakes, according to people familiar with the complex world of government contracting, suggest that Mr. Musk’s team of outsiders, charged by the president with cutting spending, don’t fully understand it.

The numbers have been cheered by Mr. Musk’s online followers, who are eager for the new administration to reduce wasteful spending funded by taxpayer dollars. But even contracting insiders who share that goal — and who believe that the government systems that track spending badly need repair — were increasingly skeptical of the effort this week.

Amber Hart, the co-founder of a research and advisory firm, the Pulse, that specializes in federal contracting, said it’s simply not possible to create a real-time accounting of contract savings with the data the team has used — as DOGE has promised on its website.

“There’s no way for them to make it possible unless they completely overhaul the way the data is reported — which would be awesome,” she said. “I would absolutely love for them to break that. They’re breaking the wrong things.”
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Why it’s hard to say how much is really being saved

The 1,125 contracts the initiative’s website listed as of Friday night make up about 20 percent of the project’s overall spending cuts, the website said, although The Times’s analysis could not reconcile those numbers. The website says the remaining dollars come from efforts like reducing the federal work force, but provides no data or specific estimates.

The dollar values posted for each contract derive from data in a central tracking system for government contracts with outside vendors.

Here’s an example of how Mr. Musk’s team made one such calculation, according to the White House official’s description of the process:
DIVERSITY, EQUITY, INCLUSION AND ACCESSIBILITY (DEIA) PROFESSIONAL SUPPORT SERVICES

Contract #70RSAT23FR0000139 awarded by DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY to THE MILLENNIUM GROUP INTERNATIONAL, LLC
$7,500,000 Total Value
–$2,100,000 Obligated spending
$5,400,000 Savings
Take this contract for D.E.I. services for the Department of Homeland Security. DOGE says canceling it saved $5.4 million.
Take this contract for D.E.I. services for the Department of Homeland Security. DOGE says canceling it saved $5.4 million.
To arrive at this figure, it started with the contract’s total potential value: around $7.5 million.
To arrive at this figure, it started with the contract’s total potential value: around $7.5 million.
Then it subtracted the amount that appears to have already been spent.
Then it subtracted the amount that appears to have already been spent.
At first glance, this seems straightforward …
At first glance, this seems straightforward …
Figures are rounded.
DOGE’s Only Public Ledger Is Riddled With Mistakes - The New York Times
But such savings estimates can be too high, several experts said, for a few reasons.

For one, the spending figure may undercount what the government has already spent, because the data in the federal contracting system can be several months out of date.

The numbers shown above also don’t account for additional termination costs the government will have to pay to close these contracts, making them a “meaningless metric,” said Steven Schooner, a professor of government procurement law at George Washington University Law School.


Contractors will have to wind down staff, close offices, terminate leases and offload equipment — a normally lengthy process that will now be rushed and potentially litigated. (The White House official did not address this issue but said that the estimate was conservative because it did not include any administrative savings from managing the canceled contracts.)

The group also claims unrealistic estimates from several special kinds of umbrella contracts. When the government expects many different offices may want ongoing orders of the same general product or service — say, I.T. — it creates an overall contracting mechanism with a set ceiling under which several pre-vetted vendors can compete for individual orders. Each of those individual orders represents money the government has committed to spend. But the ceiling on the whole umbrella doesn’t.

“It’s not real money,” said Kelly Saldana, who spent nearly two decades working at U.S.A.I.D., including as the director of its office of health systems. If one of these larger contracts has a ceiling of $100 million and there’s only one $10 million order under it, the remaining $90 million isn’t savings or money that could be spent elsewhere.

“Nobody ever does that math,” Ms. Saldana said, describing the kind of math Mr. Musk’s group appears to have done.

A report by CBS News this week found another type of error involving this kind of contract: The group had triple-counted the $655 million maximum value of one contract for U.S.A.I.D. with numerous sub-contracts. DOGE has removed two of the duplicate listings, but on the line item that remains it still overestimates savings by at least $270 million, the Times analysis found.


Our analysis also found several more apparent overcounting mistakes, including a contract for D.E.I. services at the Environmental Protection Agency that was listed three times.

In another case, DOGE claimed $232 million in savings on a contract providing information technology support to the Social Security Administration. But The Intercept reported that only a sliver of the contract was canceled — a program to let users mark their gender as “X” — bringing the actual savings closer to $560,000.

Other anomalies on the site this week were apparent even without much knowledge of the apparatus of government contracting.

Do you have a confidential news tip about canceled contracts? Submit it here: nytimes.com/tips



The Times reported Tuesday about an $8 million contract for technical support services at the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency that had been mistakenly entered into the database at a value of $8 billion, close to the size of the entire agency’s budget. This error alone made up nearly half of the combined value of all listed contract cuts.

The “wall of receipts” also lists hundreds of cases in which — even by the website’s own accounting — the changes saved taxpayers nothing. In one contract, the Securities and Exchange Commission had agreed to spend $10 million for a five-year subscription to the legal-research site Westlaw. But the savings are listed as $0. The S.E.C.’s contract expired in March 2024.

Far from ‘fully transparent’

The “wall of receipts” page acknowledges that it may contain some inaccuracies. “Over time, the website will improve and the updates will converge to real-time,” it says. It also promises to share data in a “digestible and fully transparent manner with clear assumptions.”

So far, the site has not been fully transparent about the data it includes or about the changes it makes.

Around the same time news organizations published articles on major inaccuracies, the “wall of receipts” website was updated to correct the errors without changing the “last updated” date.


The contract list itself also represents only a small share of the group’s claimed overall savings. The website says the effort has saved $55 billion in total, but has provided no details on its “wall of receipts” for the bulk of that money. The top-line number also did not change this week, even after the site fixed errors that inflated the savings of individual grants.

One place where the office has more regularly communicated with the public is on the social media platform X, owned by Mr. Musk. But it has repeated some of the same kinds of errors there. In one post about the $8 billion mistake, the group claimed it had “always used the correct $8M in its calculations,” despite its updates to its site.

On Wednesday, the DOGE account reposted a message on X from the Treasury Department, saying that the I.R.S. had “rescinded a previously planned $1.9B contract” and done so “in connection” to the group’s work — describing a canceled contract that wasn’t yet on the DOGE.gov “wall of receipts.”

The account added a screenshot showing a $1.9 billion purchasing agreement — another one of those umbrella contracts — with an unnamed vendor, now marked “terminate for convenience.”

A code in the screenshot identified the vendor as Centennial Technologies, a company in Northern Virginia. But that company said its agreement had actually been canceled in the fall, during the Biden administration.


“Nothing changed now,” Mani Allu, the company’s chief executive, said in an email. He said that the slow-moving contracts database had not been updated to show the cancellation until this month, making the change appear new.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on February 22, 2025, 07:16:32 PM
lol Musk now says we all need to respond to him by Monday night detailing what we “did in the last week” in response to Trump’s demand that he “get more aggressive”   Sent out on a Saturday after business hours so if you don’t work Monday and don’t respond to the email you will be considered “resigned”. 

This is being used as a pretense to mass fire workers.  At my job, this is going to lead to delay in patient care which will ultimately lead to dead veterans.

So what you’re saying is this immigrant is taking away Americans jobs as well as killing them or causing them harm? Next thing you know he’ll be receiving welfare money.

Oh wait.


Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Painted Baby on February 22, 2025, 07:35:48 PM
The story about Musk's work reporting email got picked up and will probably surface on the cable news shows tomorrow. Reuters published a story about it a few hours ago so it's in the pipeline. Not sure what good it will do but I think it's good to lay all his dirty tricks bare.

AOC kept him out of the Department of Labor by knowing his moves and getting to that office first.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: augustmoon on February 22, 2025, 07:39:18 PM
The numbers being wrong don’t matter.  They just need ANY numbers to present to the public that their followers can point to.  It’s pure propaganda and they’ll believe anything they’re told.  Their followers likely know that they’re wrong, but it gives them plausible deniability when referencing it in rhetoric

This makes me very wary of all of this talk about them going to Fort Knox to see “if the gold is still there”.  They’re going to claim it’s not and use this lie to invalidate the Us currency in favor of some crypto bullshit.  This is classic old school “gold standard” conspiracy nonsense

They want us on a fake currency they can manipulate for profit and that they can conveniently turn off for any citizen that steps out of line
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: WashingtonNECKTIE on February 23, 2025, 01:36:27 AM
Even r/conservative is raising eyebrows at the last OPM email phishing. I’ve read that any response will be a green light for the position and any non-response is a red light. Guess we’ll see how that shakes out.

Gotta love how they send this shit in the off hours so anyone not paying attention gets a “o shit” moment as soon as they open their email during usual business hours. I’m taking my supervisor’s lead come Monday, following ya know, the chain of command that the govt is based upon.


I can’t imagine the paperwork piling up at ____’s desk rn, but litigation is becoming less and less impactful.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: RichardBarkley on February 23, 2025, 04:45:28 AM
Hardly surprising

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/donald-trump-recruited-kgb-codename-180759277.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly9vdXQucmVkZGl0LmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAADGo4XXj0tpzniiSm5mMab0In8LfEqxVeZ-EBYweEboLQYerb62kmc32NMYEuc3W-pSJM1k_fyCJjLkm836eqPi3FRIBoQTfbIntvoWxz5vpGcElc9Mr1akVBJZhhsw198NbF67yFyCxaoAUeIECwOHkKBA_P85xcOTaYPrgVW-l
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Sick_McCrank_ on February 23, 2025, 06:04:31 AM
the alleged bunga bunga pics of trump in Russia should already be enough. Just two powerful sociopathic narcissists playing each other. And it seems the smarter one is in the better position. Maybe Putin is just a sociopath which makes him much less vulnerable.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Scarecrow Radio on February 23, 2025, 09:18:30 AM
Putin is definitely a sociopath
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: alien porkchop on February 23, 2025, 01:10:30 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NriuaTNdnoE

not sure where else to out this. haven’t finished it yet, but it certainly provides some perspective on how things were pre-trump.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: alien porkchop on February 25, 2025, 05:09:43 AM
John Oliver stole our thread title  ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cw0F8G4-dMw

i didn’t see this link shared before, but it looks like brookings stole the idea for the thread

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/tracking-regulatory-changes-in-the-second-trump-administration/
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Rusty Shackleford on February 25, 2025, 05:18:18 AM
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT27KMVbQKYVgVJlynA5tkpI_AUzZXidvHMf4cCSlRdDQ&s=10)

no compassion or empathy. thats comrade krasnov for you though; openly mocking those that are struggling.
is this really what we've become as a society?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on February 25, 2025, 05:45:10 AM
Cruelty is the point. Look at the WH IG, nothing on there screams “hope” or “pursuit of happiness for fellow man.” It’s all mockery and “owning the libs and opposition.”

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: backside_frontside on February 25, 2025, 06:15:06 AM
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT27KMVbQKYVgVJlynA5tkpI_AUzZXidvHMf4cCSlRdDQ&s=10)

no compassion or empathy. thats comrade krasnov for you though; openly mocking those that are struggling.
is this really what we've become as a society?
lol Trump can't help himself. He HAS to be a dick, all the fucking time. It's so exhausting. And now the the White House IG account just posts memes and trolls people because it's all about pwning the libs and nothing more. We're so fucked.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on February 25, 2025, 09:46:05 AM
Even with GOP divisions, the GOP is going to push forward with their budget which will include massive cuts to medicaid and food benefits which will affect millions, including those in their base.

This kind of brazen activity will probably cost Trump a fourth term. 
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: WashingtonNECKTIE on February 25, 2025, 10:10:57 AM
Even with GOP divisions, the GOP is going to push forward with their budget which will include massive cuts to medicaid and food benefits which will affect millions, including those in their base.

This kind of brazen activity will probably cost Trump a fourth term.

I betcha the backup plan for hemorrhaging support is to take the money and run back to Russia, leave the American people with an empty purse and let the ultra rich live in ivory towers above whatever fallout occurs. Maybe that's even plan A...
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on February 25, 2025, 10:25:16 AM
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Even with GOP divisions, the GOP is going to push forward with their budget which will include massive cuts to medicaid and food benefits which will affect millions, including those in their base.

This kind of brazen activity will probably cost Trump a fourth term.
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I betcha the backup plan for hemorrhaging support is to take the money and run back to Russia, leave the American people with an empty purse and let the ultra rich live in ivory towers above whatever fallout occurs. Maybe that's even plan A...

Run off with all the gold from Fort Knox.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: h00man on February 25, 2025, 10:51:46 AM
I think right now we should be saving as much money as we possibly can. The rich want to look down at us like peasants and mock us for being poor.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on February 25, 2025, 11:59:14 AM
I think right now we should be saving as much money as we possibly can. The rich want to look down at us like peasants and mock us for being poor.

Money? You mean the thing that Trump is going to make worthless through tariffs and inflation and replace with crypto?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: h00man on February 25, 2025, 12:07:56 PM
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I think right now we should be saving as much money as we possibly can. The rich want to look down at us like peasants and mock us for being poor.
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Money? You mean the thing that Trump is going to make worthless through tariffs and inflation and replace with crypto?

My bad:

I think right now we should be saving as much money as investing into crypto as much as we possibly can. The rich want to look down at us like peasants and mock us for being poor.

Dont be a peasant. Give all your money to crypto.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: augustmoon on February 25, 2025, 04:34:46 PM
You should be investing in bullets and a sturdy rifle.  While you’re still allowed to. 

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mongo Lloyd on February 25, 2025, 04:56:59 PM
You should be investing in bullets and a sturdy rifle.  While you’re still allowed to.

And learning skills of the land, to live off the land.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Burt Ward on February 25, 2025, 06:10:18 PM
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You should be investing in bullets and a sturdy rifle.  While you’re still allowed to.
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And learning skills of the land, to live off the land.

Any Australians here remember that James Blundell and James Reyne song about livin' and a workin' on the land? Yuck.

Fuck, no wonder all the mothers loved James Blundell, he was handsome af.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=xB2fhqO2Mb4&ab_channel=JamesReyneDVD

I, out of having way too much time on my hands at work keep getting myself embroiled in arguments with "moderates" etc on one of Australia's surf forecasting site's forums. I fear that our country is gonna follow America into the abyss.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: alien porkchop on February 25, 2025, 06:57:21 PM
You should be investing in bullets and a sturdy rifle.  While you’re still allowed to.

i want a revolver that has led screens on the cylinder that display my nfts
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on February 25, 2025, 09:54:29 PM
We are getting to the traditional GOP agenda: House passes the foundation of a bill that will cut taxes (for the rich) by 4.5 trillion over 10 years and decrease spending by 2 trillion. Cuts are likely to come from medicaid and medicare (nothing for sure at this stage).
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/25/us/politics/mike-johnson-budget-resolution-vote.html

After all the chaos, I'm glad we've finally got to the standard script switch: "Why are we spending on Ukraine, when AMericans are in need?" and "The deficit is too high, we need to be fiscally responsible" to "lol, hard-working wealthy Americans need the rewards for their hard work, if you're too lazy to work hard and get healthcare, its your fault."
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: rukes on February 26, 2025, 02:20:10 AM
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You should be investing in bullets and a sturdy rifle.  While you’re still allowed to.
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And learning skills of the land, to live off the land.
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Any Australians here remember that James Blundell and James Reyne song about livin' and a workin' on the land? Yuck.

Fuck, no wonder all the mothers loved James Blundell, he was handsome af.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=xB2fhqO2Mb4&ab_channel=JamesReyneDVD

I, out of having way too much time on my hands at work keep getting myself embroiled in arguments with "moderates" etc on one of Australia's surf forecasting site's forums. I fear that our country is gonna follow America into the abyss.

Yeah, good song. On a James Reyne note, Australian Crawls 'Errol' is a great song with a hilarious early 80's Gold Coast filmclip.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Sick_McCrank_ on February 26, 2025, 04:20:10 AM
It’s crazy that once you watched one or two left leaning YouTube vids criticizing trump/Elon, you get flooded with these types of vids/creators who make like 20 kinda dumb vids a day with crazy titles, view counts and followers. I’m starting to think they just milk this madness for their own benefits.

The logarithm is a crazy echo chamber and I start to wonder what neutral and non-insane right leaning opinions on this situation are like.

Asking as a non-American who can’t identify with either the far left or right. Are there even non radicalized rational opinion makers left? Or are we doomed to life in a black and white thinking world?

Just can’t imagine grounded conservative people feel good about two flashy entrepreneurs with shady track records going full ham insane and shredding the existing system and structures. These goes way further than being anti-woke and stuff and I hope trump and Elon have soon crossed the line and the actual conservatives speak up too.

Weren’t trump and Elon democrats before?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: BH on February 26, 2025, 10:59:20 AM
I was a life-long democrat until this puppet show the past four years with Biden, and the complete shit-show that was Kamala.  Be honest, what did the Democrats run off of?  Pure fear.  "We're not Trump".  Obsessed with Trump.  I'm sorry, I was with y'all, but y'all lost the plot.  Anything against the Democrats is met with pure HATE, and I just can't stand behind that.  The more I looked at things from a neutral perspective and common sense, the crazier the democrats are, honestly. 
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Rerun on February 26, 2025, 11:53:32 AM
I was a life-long democrat until this puppet show the past four years with Biden, and the complete shit-show that was Kamala.  Be honest, what did the Democrats run off of?  Pure fear.  "We're not Trump".  Obsessed with Trump.  I'm sorry, I was with y'all, but y'all lost the plot.  Anything against the Democrats is met with pure HATE, and I just can't stand behind that.  The more I looked at things from a neutral perspective and common sense, the crazier the democrats are, honestly.

You didn't think that Trump ran off fear and you don't see any of what he's doing as crazy? Um ok...
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on February 26, 2025, 12:31:20 PM


This is off the mark. "Not Trump" created an upset victory in the mid-terms, and--I agree--they held that script for a little too long when marketing themselves in the recent election. Their actual focus was on was on much more than Trump. In fact, considering how slowly all of Trump's court cases on his illegal behavior moved AND how they didn't put in laws to limit presidential power, the opposite might be true. 

The Dems got into a pickle with Manchin and that nutcase Sinema blocking and slowing legislation down and they were too slow to force the money out the door once the legislation passed, but with the Infrastructure Bill they passed:
$110 billion for roads, bridges and other major projects;
$11 billion for transportation safety programs;
$39 billion to modernize transit and improve accessibility;
$66 billion for passenger and freight rail;
$7.5 billion to build a national network of electric vehicle chargers;
$73 billion to overhaul the nation's power infrastructure, clean energy transmission, and overall energy policy;
$65 billion for broadband development.

They set aside a $369 billion investment in climate change via the Inflation Reduction Act.
They let Medicare negotiate drug prices w/big pharma.
They supported Ukraine in their war against Russia and N. Korea.
They remade ties with our allies, used diplomacy and support to garner good will around the world and enforce our power/control around the world
They tried to encourage local manufacturing of computer stuff with the CHIPS act.
They halted all federal level death penalties.
They tried to reduce student debt (eventually pulling off some debt reduction).
Biden tried to support unions (Biden blew it with the train strikes, but he was there for auto-unions and others).
They tried to pass a bi-partisan border security bill that the Republican reneged on so Trump could campaign on immigration.

All so crazy. Why in the hell did Democrats do this? If only we were:
- threatening Canada
- threatening Denmark/Greenland
- threatening Europe
- using our common sense to side with N Korea and Russia
- giggle about displacing millions of people to build resorts on their land
- reducing environmental and employee protections
- firing the FDA people who are reviewing medicines and technologies that could help Americans
- firing those corrupt park rangers
- promoting for profit "universities"
- putting our unqualified friends in power because they are loyal not smart
- openly taking bribes (Musk and Trump's overt transactional gift and ability to shovel American money into their pockets is insane)
- and so on.

Democrats need to advertise themselves better and certainly have some bad ideas, but to say they only focused on Trump is far far far off the mark. In fact, considering how hands off Biden was with all the court cases Trump was facing, they were too hands off and not focused on enough on him. There should have been pressure of "do your fucking job, do it fairly and justly, but do not slow walk this into the election and let him get away with obvious crimes."
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: BH on February 26, 2025, 01:50:20 PM
LOL! I hope you didn't write that out, and it was copy+pasted
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mongo Lloyd on February 26, 2025, 01:54:48 PM
Imagine watching and knowing everything that is currently transpiring, and thinking the left is the crazy party.

Holyshit is that ever a fried take.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Painted Baby on February 26, 2025, 02:04:33 PM
It’s crazy that once you watched one or two left leaning YouTube vids criticizing trump/Elon, you get flooded with these types of vids/creators who make like 20 kinda dumb vids a day with crazy titles, view counts and followers. I’m starting to think they just milk this madness for their own benefits.

The logarithm is a crazy echo chamber and I start to wonder what neutral and non-insane right leaning opinions on this situation are like.

Asking as a non-American who can’t identify with either the far left or right. Are there even non radicalized rational opinion makers left? Or are we doomed to life in a black and white thinking world?

Just can’t imagine grounded conservative people feel good about two flashy entrepreneurs with shady track records going full ham insane and shredding the existing system and structures. These goes way further than being anti-woke and stuff and I hope trump and Elon have soon crossed the line and the actual conservatives speak up too.

Weren’t trump and Elon democrats before?
Yeah my algorithm is so left pilled that it starts to creep into conspiracy stuff which will lead back to the right if I keep clicking. Shit is def fucked and may be the reason I think labor organizing is the only way out of this shitstorm for the US. The grift is in full effect from every angle though on revshare platforms.

The big problem, as far as polarized opinions go, is that the Overton window has been dragged pretty far to the right across the globe. That's probably exactly because of our corroded social media platforms that resist moderation and promote extremism by design. Brazil figured it out but the first amendment would make what they did impossible here in the US.

That said, these two have had some good takes. Apologies if either turn out to have a background in atheism that led them to men's rights advocacy. Made that mistake with Thunderfoot but nothing came up when I did a quick web search for goofy shit in their background. I even think of Gary as a mirror universe version of Tim Pool. Bald headed, dressin like antifa and the legend is he's made millions off a corrupt financial system and that pushed him left. If he he turns out to have a v nice switch hard then my theory will be correct and we do live in a multiverse.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3HB8MZ9_AU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCnImxVWbvc



Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on February 26, 2025, 02:17:34 PM
I'm not worth speaking with as I won't engage in a good faith conversation. Please put me on ignore.

Will do.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on February 26, 2025, 03:11:37 PM
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I was a life-long democrat until this puppet show the past four years with Biden, and the complete shit-show that was Kamala.  Be honest, what did the Democrats run off of?  Pure fear.  "We're not Trump".  Obsessed with Trump.  I'm sorry, I was with y'all, but y'all lost the plot.  Anything against the Democrats is met with pure HATE, and I just can't stand behind that.  The more I looked at things from a neutral perspective and common sense, the crazier the democrats are, honestly.
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You didn't think that Trump ran off fear and you don't see any of what he's doing as crazy? Um ok...

To be fair, Trump didn't run his campaign on fear. He ran it on hate. A promise to punish those who were against him and those he didn't like.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Big Skatefase on February 26, 2025, 03:48:51 PM
https://x.com/kenklippenstein/status/1894463126763937802

I would like for Hakeem Jefferies to explain what is the "extreme left" to him, because from where I'm sitting the United States doesn't actually have a real "extreme left" movement. Who are these extreme left politicians? What are their policies and why does he opposes those policies, shit why does the DNC oppose even center-left policies?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mongo Lloyd on February 26, 2025, 04:01:49 PM
Hakeem is such a corporate toadie stooge.

All he cares about is keeping those Blackrock and Lockheed dollars rolling in.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: alien porkchop on February 26, 2025, 04:18:17 PM
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It’s crazy that once you watched one or two left leaning YouTube vids criticizing trump/Elon, you get flooded with these types of vids/creators who make like 20 kinda dumb vids a day with crazy titles, view counts and followers. I’m starting to think they just milk this madness for their own benefits.

The logarithm is a crazy echo chamber and I start to wonder what neutral and non-insane right leaning opinions on this situation are like.

Asking as a non-American who can’t identify with either the far left or right. Are there even non radicalized rational opinion makers left? Or are we doomed to life in a black and white thinking world?

Just can’t imagine grounded conservative people feel good about two flashy entrepreneurs with shady track records going full ham insane and shredding the existing system and structures. These goes way further than being anti-woke and stuff and I hope trump and Elon have soon crossed the line and the actual conservatives speak up too.

Weren’t trump and Elon democrats before?
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Yeah my algorithm is so left pilled that it starts to creep into conspiracy stuff which will lead back to the right if I keep clicking. Shit is def fucked and may be the reason I think labor organizing is the only way out of this shitstorm for the US. The grift is in full effect from every angle though on revshare platforms.

The big problem, as far as polarized opinions go, is that the Overton window has been dragged pretty far to the right across the globe. That's probably exactly because of our corroded social media platforms that resist moderation and promote extremism by design. Brazil figured it out but the first amendment would make what they did impossible here in the US.

That said, these two have had some good takes. Apologies if either turn out to have a background in atheism that led them to men's rights advocacy. Made that mistake with Thunderfoot but nothing came up when I did a quick web search for goofy shit in their background. I even think of Gary as a mirror universe version of Tim Pool. Bald headed, dressin like antifa and the legend is he's made millions off a corrupt financial system and that pushed him left. If he he turns out to have a v nice switch hard then my theory will be correct and we do live in a multiverse.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3HB8MZ9_AU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCnImxVWbvc

the overton window got bipped
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Rerun on February 26, 2025, 04:19:42 PM
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I was a life-long democrat until this puppet show the past four years with Biden, and the complete shit-show that was Kamala.  Be honest, what did the Democrats run off of?  Pure fear.  "We're not Trump".  Obsessed with Trump.  I'm sorry, I was with y'all, but y'all lost the plot.  Anything against the Democrats is met with pure HATE, and I just can't stand behind that.  The more I looked at things from a neutral perspective and common sense, the crazier the democrats are, honestly.
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You didn't think that Trump ran off fear and you don't see any of what he's doing as crazy? Um ok...
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To be fair, Trump didn't run his campaign on fear. He ran it on hate. A promise to punish those who were against him and those he didn't like.

That is fair. But I also think that hate is usually driven by fear.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: alien porkchop on February 26, 2025, 04:23:31 PM
I was a life-long democrat until this puppet show the past four years with Biden, and the complete shit-show that was Kamala.  Be honest, what did the Democrats run off of?  Pure fear.  "We're not Trump".  Obsessed with Trump.  I'm sorry, I was with y'all, but y'all lost the plot.  Anything against the Democrats is met with pure HATE, and I just can't stand behind that.  The more I looked at things from a neutral perspective and common sense, the crazier the democrats are, honestly.

i hear this kind of take a lot from people who get their information about liberal policies and campaign rhetoric from right wing media. this doesn’t really have a basis in reality though.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Painted Baby on February 26, 2025, 04:43:08 PM
the overton window got bipped
No Radio in Car
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: RichardBarkley on February 27, 2025, 03:46:43 AM
The world's most powerful military has shifted from being a key European ally to having a U.S. president who is actively working to destabilize Europe in Putin’s favor—all within a matter of weeks.

Europe now faces a situation where, if military assistance were needed in the event of an attack, Trump would likely try to extort European nations, demanding control over significant portions of their wealth and resources—just as he attempted with Zelenskyy.

He even threatened to cut off Starlink in Ukraine to pressure Zelenskyy into surrendering mineral rights, and some reports suggest it was indeed shut down temporarily. There’s no reason to think he wouldn’t do the same to the rest of Europe, potentially withholding critical technology to force compliance.

What’s alarming is that Trump and the extreme figures he’s surrounded himself with now control the world’s most powerful military and intelligence agencies.

Beyond security concerns, the economic uncertainty is also unsettling. With such erratic leadership, are we on the no one of waking up to sudden spikes or crashes in prices?

Also this says it all. Siding with Russia and North Korea. What has the US become.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c7435pnle0go
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on February 27, 2025, 08:50:43 AM
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/27/republicans-trump-threats

Republicans support and vote for an unhinged sociopath that talked about being a dictator, then are now afraid once he starts acting like one? What the fuck is their logic?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mongo Lloyd on February 27, 2025, 05:15:04 PM
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Hakeem is such a corporate toadie stooge.

All he cares about is keeping those Blackrock and Lockheed dollars rolling in.
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oh but, wait, wait, we were told that Hakeem has no power, because "that's how politics works"

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Any of y’all reading what house democratic/AIPAC bigman Jeffries been saying about folks calling their congress people this week?
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you mean how people are calling to tell Dems "fight harder"? Is that what you mean?

If so, what do you expect Dems to do? They don't have any power! They're the minority, because PEOPLE DIDNT VOTE.

If not, then what was it about?
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How I'm interpreting what you've written is that because the D's are the minority party right now, they're either helpless, completely lacking power, and/or can be expected to roll over because they're in the minority. Feel free to clarify and explain if this isn't what you're saying.
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That's exactly what I'm saying because they really don't have power. That's how politics work. We live in fascist America. It's what Americans wanted right? The thought of cheaper eggs, gas, groceries and how Kamala is a war monger. America elected a fascist and his fascist cronies and this is what happens when they get power.
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I wish that were the case. More than half the Democratic Party exists seemingly to maintain the status quo, and obstruct actual progress.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: h00man on February 28, 2025, 08:55:50 AM
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Hakeem is such a corporate toadie stooge.

All he cares about is keeping those Blackrock and Lockheed dollars rolling in.
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oh but, wait, wait, we were told that Hakeem has no power, because "that's how politics works"

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Any of y’all reading what house democratic/AIPAC bigman Jeffries been saying about folks calling their congress people this week?
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you mean how people are calling to tell Dems "fight harder"? Is that what you mean?

If so, what do you expect Dems to do? They don't have any power! They're the minority, because PEOPLE DIDNT VOTE.

If not, then what was it about?
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How I'm interpreting what you've written is that because the D's are the minority party right now, they're either helpless, completely lacking power, and/or can be expected to roll over because they're in the minority. Feel free to clarify and explain if this isn't what you're saying.
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That's exactly what I'm saying because they really don't have power. That's how politics work. We live in fascist America. It's what Americans wanted right? The thought of cheaper eggs, gas, groceries and how Kamala is a war monger. America elected a fascist and his fascist cronies and this is what happens when they get power.
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you seem to care a lot about the Dems and what they are doing, when you, yourself, decided that VOTING DOESNT MATTER.

Why arent you complaining about Trump at all? Seems like you're trying to soften your stance on why you didn't vote, and trying to make us feel that this is all the Dems fault to begin with (which I agree, the Dems fucked up for years).

But it just seems to me that you're saying "see this is all the Dems fault let's just keep blaming Dems over and over" without singling out the source of the problem: people didnt vote.

What I'm getting at is:

You have a lot of talk in this thread about Trump changes, yet you didn't vote. You didn't have a single thing to say about Trump, and shit he's doing to our country, yet you didn't vote. You keep complaining about Democrats, in this thread about Trump. You didn't vote.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Scarecrow Radio on February 28, 2025, 09:14:24 AM
People who didn't vote in this election can kiss my pasty white ass
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Post by: h00man on February 28, 2025, 09:40:43 AM
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Hakeem is such a corporate toadie stooge.

All he cares about is keeping those Blackrock and Lockheed dollars rolling in.
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oh but, wait, wait, we were told that Hakeem has no power, because "that's how politics works"

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Any of y’all reading what house democratic/AIPAC bigman Jeffries been saying about folks calling their congress people this week?
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you mean how people are calling to tell Dems "fight harder"? Is that what you mean?

If so, what do you expect Dems to do? They don't have any power! They're the minority, because PEOPLE DIDNT VOTE.

If not, then what was it about?
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How I'm interpreting what you've written is that because the D's are the minority party right now, they're either helpless, completely lacking power, and/or can be expected to roll over because they're in the minority. Feel free to clarify and explain if this isn't what you're saying.
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That's exactly what I'm saying because they really don't have power. That's how politics work. We live in fascist America. It's what Americans wanted right? The thought of cheaper eggs, gas, groceries and how Kamala is a war monger. America elected a fascist and his fascist cronies and this is what happens when they get power.
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you seem to care a lot about the Dems and what they are doing, when you, yourself, decided that VOTING DOESNT MATTER.

Why arent you complaining about Trump at all? Seems like you're trying to soften your stance on why you didn't vote, and trying to make us feel that this is all the Dems fault to begin with (which I agree, the Dems fucked up for years).

But it just seems to me that you're saying "see this is all the Dems fault let's just keep blaming Dems over and over" without singling out the source of the problem: people didnt vote.
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the regime doesn't surprise me, it's one endless doom scroll. I was talking with a youth last night, a person who is extremely and directly affected by shit that's happening right now, and they said "it's always terrible news, but at least it's not a surprise anymore. it would hurt more if it was a surprise." There's no point in my regurgitating what everyone else is saying.

I may however hold out hope that people will see that the so-called opposition party is also a sham. While not evil, but for a seeming very few, they're quite complacent. Jeffries recent comments, complaints about voters and constituents, people who are typically D voters, demanding that the D's get to work, shows they don't particularly care about making real changes.

edit to say: I've voted in every election I have been eligible to vote in. I'd wager that I've been far more involved in social, political, community, and direct action that 99% of people as well. Voting isn't enough

You didn't vote in this election, which was probably the single most important election so far in our lives. Now with Trump in office, there's no telling of what he will do. He is already trying to dismantle mail in voting. He has billionaire Elon running the show. We live in an oligarchy now. We belong to Russia.

Please tell me again, for the 5th time, why voting isnt enough? What do you suggest we do? Luigi? Please go ahead and round them up since "voting isnt enough".

Yes, the Dems are fucking idiots. They have been for years. They deserve their punishment. But you have got to be a fucking moron to think that this election was a "punishment for the dems". This is a punishment for ALL of America. Especially the youth that you so called "talked to". People are suffering. People are scared. People are losing their jobs and lives because millions of people across the US said "nah fuck the Dems".

It seems to me you are unaffected by any of these changes. We have people in this thread on the verge of losing their jobs. Other fellow skateboarders. Tariffs will affect the industry, not only in skating, but housing, food production, technology, health. You seem to forget that when you are here talking shit on the Dems in an anti-Trump thread.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Scarecrow Radio on February 28, 2025, 09:49:39 AM
Trump and Vance just got into a shouting match with Zelensky trying to bully him into being more 'thankful' for US support
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: h00man on February 28, 2025, 10:35:38 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=yLZmRScnwy0

JFC Trump/Vance shut the FUCK up
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: RichardBarkley on February 28, 2025, 10:39:05 AM
Jesus H Christ this press conference.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: EdLawndale on February 28, 2025, 10:40:48 AM
"it's always terrible news, but at least it's not a surprise anymore. it would hurt more if it was a surprise."

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That's a pretty low bar.

Could you imagine listening to a battered wife who is all:

"it's always terrible with my husband, but at least it's not a surprise anymore. it would hurt more if it was a surprise."

And then doing a bunch of mental gymnastics to try to find a way to do anything but place the blame on the husband and get the wife away from the husband or get the husband out of the picture?

"That ex-bf she almost married, he would have been just as bad."

"The ex-bf -- who wasn't perfect but wasn't this physically abusive -- well, I blame the ppl who were pushing the lady to marry him. They should have been pushing her to marry this other third guy we know. Then she wouldn't have married this abusive husband."

"You can choose who you marry...but it's not that important who you actually stand at the alter with. Sure, you take on their debt, that person and their relatives will be making decisions that heavily affect your life and it's a lot harder to actually part ways with them after you've married them....but the courting process, that's where the real groundwork is!"


I would hope you'd have responded to that youth with, "Hey, keep your head up. We can get out from under this administration. Here's how you keep fighting..."
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on February 28, 2025, 11:01:57 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=yLZmRScnwy0

JFC Trump/Vance shut the FUCK up

When the dumbest of bullies are put in the highest seat of power.

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: easymoneysniper on February 28, 2025, 11:48:08 AM
ww3 here we come
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: brycickle on February 28, 2025, 11:53:06 AM
I wish Zelensky would have gotten up and walked out the second trump laid hands on him.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on February 28, 2025, 12:37:22 PM
I wish Zelensky would have gotten up and walked out the second trump laid hands on him.

Kinda wish he back handed him.

And the worst part is Republicans are cheering this on as Trump doing the "art of the deal" and playing hardball.

34 years after the Cold War ended, it's safe to say that we lost.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: tuesday on February 28, 2025, 12:52:04 PM
Someone already said it on here: Bin Laden won.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: EdLawndale on February 28, 2025, 12:55:37 PM
It's pretty clear Trump and Vance were just looking for the opportunity to force Zelenskyy to thank them on camera.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: RichardBarkley on February 28, 2025, 01:06:57 PM
It's pretty clear Trump and Vance were just looking for the opportunity to force Zelensky to thank them on camera.

It was an ambush.

Typical bully behavior which they knew he would retaliate to. Now they can say disrespected the US and reinforce the Ukraine bad Russia good narrative they are pushing.

And of course so Trump can get his rare earth deal out of country being decimated by a dictatorship.

JD Vance is a fuckin scumbag
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Big Skatefase on February 28, 2025, 02:10:25 PM
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Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on February 28, 2025, 02:46:22 PM
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It's pretty clear Trump and Vance were just looking for the opportunity to force Zelensky to thank them on camera.
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It was an ambush.

Typical bully behavior which they knew he would retaliate to. Now they can say disrespected the US and reinforce the Ukraine bad Russia good narrative they are pushing.

And of course so Trump can get his rare earth deal out of country being decimated by a dictatorship.

JD Vance is a fuckin scumbag

Vance said what this was exactly about: Zelenskyy went to PA and campaigned for “the opposition”
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on February 28, 2025, 02:54:14 PM
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It's pretty clear Trump and Vance were just looking for the opportunity to force Zelensky to thank them on camera.
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It was an ambush.

Typical bully behavior which they knew he would retaliate to. Now they can say disrespected the US and reinforce the Ukraine bad Russia good narrative they are pushing.

And of course so Trump can get his rare earth deal out of country being decimated by a dictatorship.

JD Vance is a fuckin scumbag
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Vance said what this was exactly about: Zelenskyy went to PA and campaigned for “the opposition”

This was all a rouse, knowing he would surrender (sorry, I mean "want peace"), Trump can then claim that Zelensky didn't want to negotiate and can withdraw aid to Ukraine until they give Trump what he wants. And in that time, expect Russia to attack, the US stay out of it, then Trump lie about how Ukraine started all of this.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Scarecrow Radio on February 28, 2025, 05:41:40 PM
After the meeting this morning the air raid sirens fired up in Kiev just a few minutes later
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: augustmoon on February 28, 2025, 05:44:41 PM
America looks weak and subservient to Russia.  Our idiot leaders are gonna get us nuked. 
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Post by: augustmoon on February 28, 2025, 06:05:28 PM
Is Russia the only country with nukes?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on February 28, 2025, 06:09:55 PM
Watch Trump nuke Ukraine and say it was to protect Russia who is an innocent in all of this.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on February 28, 2025, 06:12:44 PM
Is Russia the only country with nukes?

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Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: EdLawndale on February 28, 2025, 06:12:53 PM
Seeing Zelenskyy try to navigate through this hatchet-job of an interview with these two creeps felt like like watching "Uncut Gems" for the first time.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Scab Picker on February 28, 2025, 06:14:30 PM
Is Russia the only country with nukes?
Which country with nukes is going to do it? Trump is cool with Israel, Russia, and North Korea. India, China, UK, France and Pakistan are unlikely to resort to any warfare with USA, even if relations completely deteriorated.

Russia and North Korea were the only countries with leaders threatening to use nuclear weapons.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Too Frank To Fred on February 28, 2025, 08:15:01 PM
The way Donnie and JD treated Zelenskyy was disgusting and I hate to say this but abandoning Ukraine in favor of appeasement of Putin might actually lower the threat of WWIII/ Nuclear War.

But if the Republicans are going to argue the US needs to stop funding foreign wars, can we please include Israel?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: JANUS on February 28, 2025, 08:44:35 PM
The way Donnie and JD treated Zelenskyy was disgusting and I hate to say this but abandoning Ukraine in favor of appeasement of Putin might actually lower the threat of WWIII/ Nuclear War.

Eh, I dunno. Appeasement emboldened Hitler.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Unkle Fleak on February 28, 2025, 08:59:00 PM
Putin is scared of covid. He ain’t got the Ike in him for ww3 nor the war chest for anything other than total defeat. Be 1917 all over again by 2026. Trumps doing this for favor and praise. France wants those funds unfrozen.
Zelensky’s right. Trump ain’t been hungry a day in his life. What’s he know about any of this. Nothing at all. He’s right that the us gonna feel it someday.
A future coalition of nations will liberate us from the CEOs or perhaps they’ll escape to their billion dollar panic rooms and sterilize the surface. That sounds like some shit asshats who think mars is an option would do. Zero care for the live lost in any of this.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Too Frank To Fred on February 28, 2025, 09:23:21 PM
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The way Donnie and JD treated Zelenskyy was disgusting and I hate to say this but abandoning Ukraine in favor of appeasement of Putin might actually lower the threat of WWIII/ Nuclear War.
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Eh, I dunno. Appeasement emboldened Hitler.

It sure did but what other option is there? Keep fighting until Russia is exhausted? Possibly... Or concede what they have already lost to Russia and offer Putin a somewhat graceful exit ramp? I have no fucking idea...

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on February 28, 2025, 11:01:31 PM
Trump is one of the few people on the planet that can make Bush Jr look smart. Bush Jr loved Putin when he first met him (see http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/1392791.stm), but even Jr wised up over the course of his presidency. There is no doubt Putin can be charming, but Trump is too stupid and arrogant to catch on to Putin's game.

Russia is a weak state. It is an oil rich state and it has a long history of being willing to send lots of people to their deaths in war, but it is a mess. I mean its biggest ally in this war is N. Korea. What kind of shape do you need to be in to have to ask N. Korea for help?

Russia's social problems are immense: it hasn't increased its population in 35 years, TB remains an issue, new HIV infections are a problem, its infrastructure is a mess.

Russia's economy is also a mess, despite having so much natural wealth. It is a risky place to invest because people in the government steal companies, people in the government steal individual wealth (wealthy Russians--including Putin--keep much of their wealth outside of the country for a reason). Its economy is smaller than Canada's despite Canada having 1/5 the population (Canada has the 10th biggest economy). Russia's economy is barely bigger than Mexico's, few people think of Mexico as a economic powerhouse.   

The loss of Soviet Union coupled with Goldman Sachs attempt to "restructure the economy" in the 90s was brutal. The country hasn't recovered from this. The 90s were absolute hell for many Russians. The population suffered through the ultra-capitalist wild west for a decade and it left them with an authoritarian kook.

Contemporary Russia has an amazingly sophisticated troll army, it has a willingness to make its own people suffer, to send its own people to war, and it has the cheap oil and gas that ran Germany's economy, and it does have immense beauty, some of my favorite skaters, and some really cool things that I worry I will never get to see again, but it is not a strong state. Donny Don't is a dumbass and falling for Putin's charm. Trump is so arrogant that he trusts Putin's show more than history, more than our intelligence officers, and more than our foreign service officers. It makes Trump the most useful idiot on the planet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekeq4szDmJo
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Sick_McCrank_ on February 28, 2025, 11:11:29 PM
It’s crazy how damaged and far from reality trump is. Talking about how he likes selenskys clothes and playing cards and how good he is at anything while selenskys country gets destroyed and his people are dying and getting abducted, murdered, raped and tortured.

All trump and JD saw was a opportunity to feed on their power and humiliate someone in a shitty position.

If you like trump and his government, just remember he would love to do the same to you, just because he can and is more powerful. It’s his nature and basic behaviour.  He only respects people who are as powerful as him. Not the casual citizen.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: tuesday on February 28, 2025, 11:21:20 PM
Imagine being the one to effectively reduce the US presidency from being the 'leader of the free world' to it queueing in to the long line of poor little sausages on a power trip.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on February 28, 2025, 11:27:18 PM
As Jon Stewart says it used to be capitalism vs communism, but now it’s woke vs non-woke and that’s why Russia and Orban are natural allies in the white pseudo-Christian worldview the GOP embraces
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: RichardBarkley on February 28, 2025, 11:33:27 PM
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America looks weak and subservient to Russia.  Our idiot leaders are gonna get us nuked.
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I don’t understand that logic.   Why would they nuke us when we aren’t oppositional to their interests?

For now

For now the US is the useful idiot. Putin hates everything about the US and everything it stands for.

Russia won the cold war it seems and it was as easy as paying off a few politicians over the decades.

His very goal is to destabilize the US (easy) and the EU. China are sitting back watching all this laughing.


Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: RichardBarkley on February 28, 2025, 11:37:37 PM
Imagine being the one to effectively reduce the US presidency from being the 'leader of the free world' to it queueing in to the long line of poor little sausages on a power trip.

The use of the US currency world wide is propping up their economy for decades allowing them to gain wealth without inflationary pressure. If the US continues to look so volatile it's not out of this world that dollarized countries would switch to a more stable currency than the dollar.. probably the euro.

It would be shocking and unthinkable even a year ago... Now though it's not crazy
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Sick_McCrank_ on March 01, 2025, 12:58:17 AM
As Jon Stewart says it used to be capitalism vs communism, but now it’s woke vs non-woke and that’s why Russia and Orban are natural allies in the white pseudo-Christian worldview the GOP embraces

I’m Not so sure about that. The „woke“ thing was just a catalyst that pushed many right leaning people to the far right/completely abolishing rationality and going fully paranoid, thinking their child will turn into a gay frog soon. And as a consequence empowering the factually much more dangerous and malicious opinion makers of the far right. 
 
I’m sure I’m gonna get plenty of kooks for saying this, but some „woke“ opinion makers went way too far demanding things that completely killed the EID movement for non-far left thinking or neutral people. And now the people that suffered from discrimination gonna have a even harder time. 

Yeah sorry it’s totally not in the interest of society or practical to learn like 20 pronouns just because 0.0001% of the world identity as zie/zim or whatever. Imagine being a teacher or working with people. Constantly Walking on eggshells as an outcome of this emotional manipulation.

Oh it’s a hate crime if I can’t remember all of them? Or I called you a he or she because statistically it leads to success the most? Sure I must be so evil!

Sorry these are kind of first world problems, problems yes, but I’m not gonna take the burden of every individuals problem and fix them. It’s simply not possible. And I’m someone with a helper complex, which is not a good thing at all to have.

A someone with social anxiety im not gonna demand everyone leaves the room, train or bus just because it makes me uncomfortable. I’m not gonna push my problems onto others. It’s also a form of emotional manipulation.

Going radical themselves, but being radical and harmless („woke“ people) is a bad match if you gonna piss off your radical and actually dangerous opposition (mad far right) with guns and money and shit...

Both of them are or were small minorities (far left and far right), I get that. But the pendulum began swinging and it escalated.

While some were in for it for their own personal problems (it is kind of a you-problem if you except everyone else to go way beyond what is the norm to comfort and not harm you) while the others go in to harm anyone that’s slightly different.

It’s a total power imbalance and I hope the far right is not able to keep the pendulum stuck in their favor. Heck, I hope the pendulum gets to chill so that we can chill again too. Extremism everywhere sucks!
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: RichardBarkley on March 01, 2025, 03:56:19 AM
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I’m Not so sure about that. The „woke“ thing was just a catalyst that pushed many right leaning people to the far right/completely abolishing rationality and going fully paranoid, thinking their child will turn into a gay frog soon. And as a consequence empowering the factually much more dangerous and malicious opinion makers of the far right. 
 
I’m sure I’m gonna get plenty of kooks for saying this, but some „woke“ opinion makers went way too far demanding things that completely killed the EID movement for non-far left thinking or neutral people. And now the people that suffered from discrimination gonna have a even harder time. 

Yeah sorry it’s totally not in the interest of society or practical to learn like 20 pronouns just because 0.0001% of the world identity as zie/zim or whatever. Imagine being a teacher or working with people. Constantly Walking on eggshells as an outcome of this emotional manipulation.

Oh it’s a hate crime if I can’t remember all of them? Or I called you a he or she because statistically it leads to success the most? Sure I must be so evil!

Sorry these are kind of first world problems, problems yes, but I’m not gonna take the burden of every individuals problem and fix them. It’s simply not possible. And I’m someone with a helper complex, which is not a good thing at all to have.

A someone with social anxiety im not gonna demand everyone leaves the room, train or bus just because it makes me uncomfortable. I’m not gonna push my problems onto others. It’s also a form of emotional manipulation.

Going radical themselves, but being radical and harmless („woke“ people) is a bad match if you gonna piss off your radical and actually dangerous opposition (mad far right) with guns and money and shit...

Both of them are or were small minorities (far left and far right), I get that. But the pendulum began swinging and it escalated.

While some were in for it for their own personal problems (it is kind of a you-problem if you except everyone else to go way beyond what is the norm to comfort and not harm you) while the others go in to harm anyone that’s slightly different.

It’s a total power imbalance and I hope the far right is not able to keep the pendulum stuck in their favor. Heck, I hope the pendulum gets to chill so that we can chill again too. Extremism everywhere sucks!

Well this is just it. Americans will go out in their droves to protest matters such as this but yet they remain silent on matters like the betrayal of the Kurds in the past or of Ukraine now. In fact, they won’t even protest the rapid collapse of 80 years of foreign policy and alliances in just a month.

Do you guys think there will be protests ?

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Sick_McCrank_ on March 01, 2025, 04:03:02 AM
Yes I agree it’s rarely a real life problem. But we live like 80% in the „not-real world“ nowadays and get influenced by it and the loud radical voices that get pushed on us online more than is healthy.

Also this email back or get fired thing is just a plot to get rid of the government workers who don’t stand in line with trumps BS. 

Best to do is to learn how to play a narcissist like trump and react accordingly. Don’t get overwhelmed by emotion, that’s exactly the reaction he’s trying to get out of people to find out who’s gonna lick his balls or who’s gonna be an enemy.
 
That’s the only thing selensky could have done better. Play trumps game on the surface while keeping his own goals in mind. Hard to do in a situation like this and if you actually are a decent human. Gotta act selectively immoral to beat a narc longterm. That is if you can’t just walk away. Which is why narcissists love positions of power: you usually can’t just walk away.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Top-Heavy Hookjaw on March 01, 2025, 05:59:32 AM
The way Donnie and JD treated Zelenskyy was disgusting and I hate to say this but abandoning Ukraine in favor of appeasement of Putin might actually lower the threat of WWIII/ Nuclear War.

But if the Republicans are going to argue the US needs to stop funding foreign wars, can we please include Israel?

Trump just slid $3billlion in arms sales through to Israel over night, bypassing congress. An “emergency” measure.
He isn’t stopping until TrumpGaza is a reality.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mongo Lloyd on March 01, 2025, 06:09:40 AM
While no fan of the MIC myself personally, I can’t imagine they are too thrilled with Trump’s international moves.

That, and those working black budget programs and aerospace industries.

Those are powerful enemies to make.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: JANUS on March 01, 2025, 07:01:34 AM
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The way Donnie and JD treated Zelenskyy was disgusting and I hate to say this but abandoning Ukraine in favor of appeasement of Putin might actually lower the threat of WWIII/ Nuclear War.
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Eh, I dunno. Appeasement emboldened Hitler.
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It sure did but what other option is there? Keep fighting until Russia is exhausted? Possibly... Or concede what they have already lost to Russia and offer Putin a somewhat graceful exit ramp? I have no fucking idea...

Same, friend. Same.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: S. on March 01, 2025, 08:47:43 AM
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I’m Not so sure about that. The „woke“ thing was just a catalyst that pushed many right leaning people to the far right/completely abolishing rationality and going fully paranoid, thinking their child will turn into a gay frog soon. And as a consequence empowering the factually much more dangerous and malicious opinion makers of the far right. 
 
I’m sure I’m gonna get plenty of kooks for saying this, but some „woke“ opinion makers went way too far demanding things that completely killed the EID movement for non-far left thinking or neutral people. And now the people that suffered from discrimination gonna have a even harder time. 

Yeah sorry it’s totally not in the interest of society or practical to learn like 20 pronouns just because 0.0001% of the world identity as zie/zim or whatever. Imagine being a teacher or working with people. Constantly Walking on eggshells as an outcome of this emotional manipulation.

Oh it’s a hate crime if I can’t remember all of them? Or I called you a he or she because statistically it leads to success the most? Sure I must be so evil!

Sorry these are kind of first world problems, problems yes, but I’m not gonna take the burden of every individuals problem and fix them. It’s simply not possible. And I’m someone with a helper complex, which is not a good thing at all to have.

A someone with social anxiety im not gonna demand everyone leaves the room, train or bus just because it makes me uncomfortable. I’m not gonna push my problems onto others. It’s also a form of emotional manipulation.

Going radical themselves, but being radical and harmless („woke“ people) is a bad match if you gonna piss off your radical and actually dangerous opposition (mad far right) with guns and money and shit...

Both of them are or were small minorities (far left and far right), I get that. But the pendulum began swinging and it escalated.

While some were in for it for their own personal problems (it is kind of a you-problem if you except everyone else to go way beyond what is the norm to comfort and not harm you) while the others go in to harm anyone that’s slightly different.

It’s a total power imbalance and I hope the far right is not able to keep the pendulum stuck in their favor. Heck, I hope the pendulum gets to chill so that we can chill again too. Extremism everywhere sucks!


In other words: “All this is the fault of woke people?“

Look I have my own problems with what you call woke. in some ways it is a pseudo leftist position easy co-opted by capitalism: it quickly turned into a vision of polite exploitation and inclusive consumerism.
It also always appeared to me to be a stand in for something. Most minorities simply called for equal and fair treatment, while some liberals (most of the time not directly affected) seemed to identify with their struggles to signal that they were on the moral side of the issue. Woke and anti-woke to has always been a position in the culture war. Even with liberals unfortunately it had often more to do with their political identity than with actual minorities. The MAGA fascists now have completely weaponized anti-wokeness, based on a lot of paranoia that you seem to share. They have claimed that wokeness was anti free speech and anti-democracy. Now they are the ones who actually ban the press, ban books, outlaw DEI programs and dismantle democracy.

When have you ever actually suffered from wokeness?
 Also: Since there are only very few transgender young people their pronouns aren’t much of an issue. I have been a high-school teacher for 5 years. I have had one openly transgender student. It wasn’t a problem at all.


Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mongo Lloyd on March 01, 2025, 09:31:05 AM
It’s quite telling that being “awakened” has become demonized by the side that wishes to perpetuate the current oppressive economical and political structures.

If truth and transparency threaten the foundation your structure is built on, if awareness of these truths threatens your position, you are the bad guy.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Unkle Fleak on March 01, 2025, 11:47:51 AM
No Epstein files again.

Eat my shit trumpers
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on March 01, 2025, 12:15:05 PM
It’s quite telling that being “awakened” has become demonized by the side that wishes to perpetuate the current oppressive economical and political structures.

If truth and transparency threaten the foundation your structure is built on, if awareness of these truths threatens your position, you are the bad guy.

My aunt’s husband is one of those pretentious white Republicans that only watches Fox because they’re the only ones dedicated to the truth (I know).  During one of his Thanksgiving rants about how woke is ruining America, I mentioned how Florida Gov Desantis and his counsel, in court, defined woke as “the belief and recognition that there’s systemic injustices and there’s a need to address them.”

I told him this and said that based off that definition, that since he’s “unwoke” does that mean he’s for these [racial] injustices?

He tried to backtrack and say how woke is just the left’s excuse to cancel people.

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on March 01, 2025, 12:42:33 PM
The Right has made “woke” to be the antithesis of White American (male) Exceptionalism.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mongo Lloyd on March 01, 2025, 02:11:04 PM
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It’s quite telling that being “awakened” has become demonized by the side that wishes to perpetuate the current oppressive economical and political structures.

If truth and transparency threaten the foundation your structure is built on, if awareness of these truths threatens your position, you are the bad guy.
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My aunt’s husband is one of those pretentious white Republicans that only watches Fox because they’re the only ones dedicated to the truth (I know).  During one of his Thanksgiving rants about how woke is ruining America, I mentioned how Florida Gov Desantis and his counsel, in court, defined woke as “the belief and recognition that there’s systemic injustices and there’s a need to address them.”

I told him this and said that based off that definition, that since he’s “unwoke” does that mean he’s for these [racial] injustices?

He tried to backtrack and say how woke is just the left’s excuse to cancel people.

I’m always trying to search for the perfect words (and failing) to get through to these people that they’re unwittingly shilling on behalf of the ultra wealthy. That they are the simple pawns in a rich person’s game. To be the active participant or the voice for those that care not for them, and trample upon them.

The “woke” narrative, and the perpetual attack on enlightenment is a weapon to keep the masses divided, and it’s fomented by those at the very top. It keeps the (simple) people looking outside their window and blaming their own socioeconomic woes on their peers, rather than realizing the oppressors are the perpetuators up above.

We know this, but I don’t understand how this isn’t clear to anyone that takes a moment to think about it.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: GardenSkater77 on March 01, 2025, 02:45:21 PM
Trump is loosing what little mind he had due to syphilis…

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uD2WYgtNgng

(https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article31911179.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/1_US-POLITICS-JUSTICE-TRIAL-TRUMP.jpg)

And, he hasn’t taken a cognitive test since 2018 and he did terribly on that test at the time. Remember him explaining the test in an interview? He sounded like he was reading Cat in the Hat. Now, he’s gone.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Painted Baby on March 01, 2025, 02:48:02 PM
Trump is loosing what little mind he had due to syphilis…

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uD2WYgtNgng

(https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article31911179.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/1_US-POLITICS-JUSTICE-TRIAL-TRUMP.jpg)

And, he hasn’t taken a cognitive test since 2018 and he did terribly on that test at the time. Remember him explaining the test in an interview? He sounded like he was reading Cat in the Hat. Now, he’s gone.
Person Woman Man Camera TV
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: alien porkchop on March 03, 2025, 01:10:52 PM
https://www.utilitydive.com/news/new-england-new-york-grid-operators-prepare-to-collect-millions-in-trump-tariffs/741343/?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Issue:%202025-03-03%20Utility%20Dive%20Newsletter%20%5Bissue:70913%5D&utm_term=Utility%20Dive

this one is a bit wonky, but if the tariffs get passed onto utility rate payers that will be messy. the administration will likely blame renewable energy (probably off shore wind projects) and the public will proceed with misdirected outcry.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: brycickle on March 03, 2025, 06:46:20 PM
Stock prices plummeted after they announced the tariffs. Let's just see if some people get a bit wealthy off insider trading after they cut those tariffs...
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: h00man on March 03, 2025, 09:24:49 PM
1. announce tariffs

2. stocks crash

3. buy stocks

4. get rich

5. say tariffs are off

6. repeat
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: GardenSkater77 on March 03, 2025, 09:40:01 PM
Anyone notice Musk looks like Officer Barbrady these days?

(https://en.setopati.com/uploads/posts/725X460/ElonMusk-1740986644.jpg)

(https://southpark-online.nl/assets/images/clips/total-anarchy.jpg)
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on March 03, 2025, 10:06:46 PM
Damn you nailed it.
Perfect for a meme I’d wager…
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on March 03, 2025, 11:16:47 PM
Big surprise, Elon backed out of the interview with Stewart. He pussed out a fight with Zuckerberg and now he is afraid of talking with Jon Stewart. He tried to say Stewart was too political. Despite him sucking off Tucker Carlson not too long ago.

We "paused" support for Ukraine. I think this war has been framed as woke vs unwoke, which is beyond stupid. Ukraine was never a bastion of left-wing cultural values. Amazing how Americans put their own politics on wars that have nothing to do with them.
https://apnews.com/article/trump-zelenskyy-russia-ukraine-a15a459c9a3a393d040478ebbe250a9e

Tariffs for Canada and Mexico. Trumps excuse for Canada makes no sense. Canada willing to hit back. Ontario threatens to cut off power supply to American states. Quebec will probably do so as well.
https://www.wsj.com/economy/trade/trump-tariffs-canada-mexico-china-trade-4e610130

China tariffs increased by 15%. China to tariff us return. Be prepared to subsidize American farmers again and watch Brazilain farmers sell more soy and beef to China.
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/04/china-rejects-additional-us-tariffs-vows-to-take-countermeasures.html

lol, the subsidies to farmers cost us more than maintaining the Dept of State last time. It also cost us more than NASA's budget. And it was 4x what we give scientists via the NSF. It also cost us more than a lot of important programs for Americans
https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2020/01/21/trump-tariff-aid-to-farmers-cost-more-than-us-nuclear-forces/

The state department vows to line Elon's pockets with hundreds of millions in stupid ass cyber trucks.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/12/us/politics/trump-tesla-musk-cybertruck.html

Ruth Bader Ginsberg picture banned from schools for children of military members
https://forward.com/culture/697417/ruth-bader-ginsburg-trump-book-ban-executive-order-diversity-ideology/

After complaining about California not paying attention to water enough, Trump fires a bunch of people at the Bureau of Reclamation, which manages dams and water-delivery infrastructure in California.
https://www.latimes.com/environment/story/2025-03-03/trump-doge-staff-cuts-reclamation-california

For an actual win, TSMC says it will invest 100 billion to expand its current 65 billion dollar chip factory in AZ. Trump claims it is because of the tariffs, China's threat to take over Taiwan might better explain it, and Biden probably wants credit for this as well through the support he gave through the CHIPS Act
 https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/03/technology/tsmc-investment-trump.html

Good explainer on the tariffs and the auto industry. My thought (not in the video), fucking over the American auto supply chain benefits Musk. There are already 100% tariffs on BYD, which Musk begged Biden for because Tesla cannot compete and fucking up Ford and other American companies' supply chain would benefit Tesla as well, especially since the Canadian plants were electric investments.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcpehUVAx0k

And a good explainer on the small trade deficit America has with Canada
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cw0R0EOEEyA
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on March 04, 2025, 07:07:54 AM
Big surprise, Elon backed out of the interview with Stewart. He pussed out a fight with Zuckerberg and now he is afraid of talking with Jon Stewart. He tried to say Stewart was too political. Despite him sucking off Tucker Carlson not too long ago.

Elon pulls out of everything — making ventilators, saving kids in caves, a fight with Zuck, an interview.

In fact, the only thing he doesn’t pull out of is women he dupes.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: brycickle on March 04, 2025, 08:55:31 AM
I thought it was funny that his stipulation for an interview with Stewart was that it had to be unedited. Elon, the last thing you want is an unedited interview of Jon Stewart tearing you to pieces.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on March 04, 2025, 09:20:06 AM
I thought it was funny that his stipulation for an interview with Stewart was that it had to be unedited. Elon, the last thing you want is an unedited interview of Jon Stewart tearing you to pieces.

He thought he had an “Ah-Ha” moment to use in an argument that Dems cheat via editing.

Less he forget that Trump and Vance were the ones who pulled out because they didn’t want live fact-checking, also that 60 mins willingly gave over the Kamala transcript only for them to learn her interview was edited for time, not content.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Frank Bones on March 04, 2025, 09:30:58 AM
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Big surprise, Elon backed out of the interview with Stewart. He pussed out a fight with Zuckerberg and now he is afraid of talking with Jon Stewart. He tried to say Stewart was too political. Despite him sucking off Tucker Carlson not too long ago.
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Elon pulls out of everything — making ventilators, saving kids in caves, a fight with Zuck, an interview.

In fact, the only thing he doesn’t pull out of is women he dupes.

He doesn't even do that:

Forbes: Elon Musk’s Babies Were Conceived Via IVF And Surrogacy - Is It The Future Of Reproduction? (https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexzhavoronkov/2022/07/27/elon-musk-and-other-billionaires-make-their-babies-via-ivf-and-surrogatesis-it-a-future-of-reproduction/)

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: WashingtonNECKTIE on March 04, 2025, 09:35:31 AM
I knew it was never gonna happen, but I was damn hungry for that interview... this "administration" is catching plenty of smoke and you can bet they aren't gonna stoke the flames anymore than they need to
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on March 04, 2025, 09:42:11 AM
I knew it was never gonna happen, but I was damn hungry for that interview... this "administration" is catching plenty of smoke and you can bet they aren't gonna stoke the flames anymore than they need to

It's why GOP are running from their Town Halls.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: h00man on March 04, 2025, 10:39:50 AM
President Elon lining up his pockets more and more. How much does this clown make per hour?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on March 04, 2025, 11:06:17 AM
President Elon lining up his pockets more and more. How much does this clown make per hour?

In the first hour after the inauguration, he made more money than like 87% of Americans would in the year.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: WashingtonNECKTIE on March 04, 2025, 08:50:06 PM
Ending bit of the Address to Congress almost had me convinced, but then I remembered it’s the same shit over and over and over again
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Freelancevagrant on March 05, 2025, 05:27:44 AM
Let’s talk shoplifting, fraud, waste, and abuse.

Liberal protests in pink aren’t going to do shit.

Shoplifting is a great way to get you and your community the goods it desperately needs, without spending any hard earned money! Make a false bottom tote bag and go shopping! Vary your locations and appearance frequently and never hit the same spot twice in one month.

Need emergency healthcare? Go to the ER, give them a fake ssn, a fake name, and a fake address. You’ll get the care you need without dealing with pesky medical debt.

Steal as much as humanly possible from your job, including time!

Also if you’re ever arrested, don’t say anything except you are experiencing chest pain. They will release you into the custody of the ER, city and county jails can not accept anyone that has urgent medical needs and it saves the cops from having to do paper work, it is a win for everybody.


Also if you haven’t yet, buy yourself a 3d printer and check this out.

https://fosscad.org/

Fuck every cop, fuck every politician, and fuck every bootlicker.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Audrey II on March 05, 2025, 06:02:22 AM
Need emergency healthcare? Go to the ER, give them a fake ssn, a fake name, and a fake address. You’ll get the care you need without dealing with pesky medical debt.

has anyone here actually pulled off a rusty shackleford successfully? that would be most impressive.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Freelancevagrant on March 05, 2025, 06:44:59 AM
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Need emergency healthcare? Go to the ER, give them a fake ssn, a fake name, and a fake address. You’ll get the care you need without dealing with pesky medical debt.
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has anyone here actually pulled off a rusty shackleford successfully? that would be most impressive.


I know of multiple people who have done it multiple times. I also know for a fact health care workers don’t mind as long as you know your medical history and what medications you take (to avoid potentially harmful interactions).

Also, you can use getting out of getting bagged to get your healthcare needs. 2 for 1 deal.

(https://i.postimg.cc/25r2PhZP/IMG-2567.png)
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: rawbertson. on March 05, 2025, 08:07:59 AM
whatever happened to the "wall around all of mexico" ... ? im pretty sure that never happened. fucken goof.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: brycickle on March 05, 2025, 08:17:31 AM
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Need emergency healthcare? Go to the ER, give them a fake ssn, a fake name, and a fake address. You’ll get the care you need without dealing with pesky medical debt.
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has anyone here actually pulled off a rusty shackleford successfully? that would be most impressive.
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I know of multiple people who have done it multiple times. I also know for a fact health care workers don’t mind as long as you know your medical history and what medications you take (to avoid potentially harmful interactions).

Also, you can use getting out of getting bagged to get your healthcare needs. 2 for 1 deal.

(https://i.postimg.cc/25r2PhZP/IMG-2567.png)

Most people don't know their history though, or the names of the meds they take. This results in a delay of care if they are truly having a medical emergency. On that note, if you have a true medical emergency, you'll likely be admitted, which makes your little ruse a bit more difficult to keep up.

As to your telling the cops you're having chest pain, also an idiotic idea. The cops will likely have your real information, and a chest pain workup ain't cheap at all. Then of course there's the fact that you can remain under arrest until medically cleared, then taken to jail. So, big bill and you still go to jail.

Maybe rethink some of these bullshit knee-jerk ideas.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: augustmoon on March 05, 2025, 04:54:59 PM
Cutting 80,000 jobs from the VA. Roughly 1 in 5 workers, at an already dangerously understaffed agency


https://apnews.com/article/veterans-affairs-cuts-doge-musk-trump-f587a6bc3db6a460e9c357592e165712
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on March 05, 2025, 05:53:40 PM
Cutting 80,000 jobs from the VA. Roughly 1 in 5 workers, at an already dangerously understaffed agency


https://apnews.com/article/veterans-affairs-cuts-doge-musk-trump-f587a6bc3db6a460e9c357592e165712

America is back. USA USA USA.

The GOP sure does love virtue signaling their love for the military, but absolutely hates actually doing anything for them.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: skippersoldballs on March 05, 2025, 07:31:34 PM
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Need emergency healthcare? Go to the ER, give them a fake ssn, a fake name, and a fake address. You’ll get the care you need without dealing with pesky medical debt.
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has anyone here actually pulled off a rusty shackleford successfully? that would be most impressive.
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I know of multiple people who have done it multiple times. I also know for a fact health care workers don’t mind as long as you know your medical history and what medications you take (to avoid potentially harmful interactions).

Also, you can use getting out of getting bagged to get your healthcare needs. 2 for 1 deal.

(https://i.postimg.cc/25r2PhZP/IMG-2567.png)
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Most people don't know their history though, or the names of the meds they take. This results in a delay of care if they are truly having a medical emergency. On that note, if you have a true medical emergency, you'll likely be admitted, which makes your little ruse a bit more difficult to keep up.

As to your telling the cops you're having chest pain, also an idiotic idea. The cops will likely have your real information, and a chest pain workup ain't cheap at all. Then of course there's the fact that you can remain under arrest until medically cleared, then taken to jail. So, big bill and you still go to jail.

Maybe rethink some of these bullshit knee-jerk ideas.
Pussy
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: brycickle on March 05, 2025, 09:16:08 PM
Or could it just be that I'm an actual medical professional who cares about helping patients?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: skippersoldballs on March 05, 2025, 10:37:01 PM
Could be true, at the end of the day we’re all just strangers on the computer.

 For what it’s worth I have no first hand experience with the United States medical system. But I’ve heard from friends in the US who’ve done essentially the same thing described above. All anecdote obviously, but if anyone is jerking the knee you drew first blood
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: brycickle on March 06, 2025, 05:07:56 AM
but if anyone is jerking the knee you drew first blood

Nobody was talking to you in the first place.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on March 06, 2025, 09:36:35 AM
Hope those of you guys in Veterans Affairs are ok. This is crazy.

My homies who are Nurses/Nurse Practitioners all say there's a lot of tension and apprehension in the VA hospital they're at. Like there's something amiss and they're all walking on egg shells.

 
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: RichardBarkley on March 06, 2025, 12:46:13 PM
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-plans-revoke-legal-status-ukrainians-who-fled-us-sources-say-2025-03-06/?utm_source=reddit.com
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: JANUS on March 06, 2025, 03:49:34 PM
Tariffs on, tariffs off, tariffs on, tariffs off. What a tease. That fat orange bitch should throw down the tariffs or shut the fuck up already. Worse than Russia with their nuke threats.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Jehoshaphat Augustus on March 06, 2025, 04:21:23 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/M5c2Xhwp/20250306-182011.jpg)
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on March 06, 2025, 04:43:14 PM
Tariffs on, tariffs off, tariffs on, tariffs off. What a tease. That fat orange bitch should throw down the tariffs or shut the fuck up already. Worse than Russia with their nuke threats.

It's all bullshit posturing. He screams and bullies out loud about tariffs, then when a country rebuffs his shit, he silently cowers.

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on March 07, 2025, 12:59:47 AM
Tech people’s goal is to destroy the EU because that’s who regulates them the hardest/at all
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Shtonk on March 07, 2025, 01:06:58 AM
Let’s talk shoplifting, fraud, waste, and abuse.

Liberal protests in pink aren’t going to do shit.

Shoplifting is a great way to get you and your community the goods it desperately needs, without spending any hard earned money! Make a false bottom tote bag and go shopping! Vary your locations and appearance frequently and never hit the same spot twice in one month.

Need emergency healthcare? Go to the ER, give them a fake ssn, a fake name, and a fake address. You’ll get the care you need without dealing with pesky medical debt.

Steal as much as humanly possible from your job, including time!

Also if you’re ever arrested, don’t say anything except you are experiencing chest pain. They will release you into the custody of the ER, city and county jails can not accept anyone that has urgent medical needs and it saves the cops from having to do paper work, it is a win for everybody.


Also if you haven’t yet, buy yourself a 3d printer and check this out.

https://fosscad.org/

Fuck every cop, fuck every politician, and fuck every bootlicker.

Thank you I love you
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: noxiousPond on March 07, 2025, 09:54:31 PM
Saw Neen posted the "Joe Rogan burger" and has the comments turned off. Why the fuck are you supporting Joe Rogan when he supports shit bags like elon and trump? Well I just lost all my respect for him.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on March 08, 2025, 01:38:55 AM
Saw Neen posted the "Joe Rogan burger" and has the comments turned off. Why the fuck are you supporting Joe Rogan when he supports shit bags like elon and trump? Well I just lost all my respect for him.

You had respect for Neen?   Keep that same energy with Cromer who put Rogan watching in his last YouTube but tried to hide it
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: noxiousPond on March 08, 2025, 07:35:55 AM
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Saw Neen posted the "Joe Rogan burger" and has the comments turned off. Why the fuck are you supporting Joe Rogan when he supports shit bags like elon and trump? Well I just lost all my respect for him.
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You had respect for Neen?   Keep that same energy with Cromer who put Rogan watching in his last YouTube but tried to hide it
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  What do I not know about Neen then?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Painted Baby on March 08, 2025, 01:42:40 PM
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Saw Neen posted the "Joe Rogan burger" and has the comments turned off. Why the fuck are you supporting Joe Rogan when he supports shit bags like elon and trump? Well I just lost all my respect for him.
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You had respect for Neen?   Keep that same energy with Cromer who put Rogan watching in his last YouTube but tried to hide it
[close]
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  What do I not know about Neen then?
He got caught up in the influencer bag-chaser mentality and was trying to be a Huberman health type before he kinda blew that in IG comments. That world is terminally online and, if that winds up being your filter, it's pretty easy to start thinking the incoherent politics that the fascist right have been platforming in the same space are real and overwhelmingly popular. It's just another media bubble and you can see how these guys that live and die by IG are always falling for those otherwise unpopular political positions. Let's see how all those guys feel about Social Security 6 months from now. Betcha they'll be arguing against it.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: WashingtonNECKTIE on March 10, 2025, 03:06:36 PM
Working on remedying this persons complaint with my department and after a 15 minute diatribe of everything that’s happened to him, I ran back his asks/requests (accurately) and he ends the call with “I hope (they) fire all of you. Thank you. Have a nice day”

Can’t wait for the talking heads to use the growing dissent between the public sector and its clients to “prove” we are “ineffective”.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Scab Picker on March 11, 2025, 08:10:15 AM
https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/trump-says-he-will-raise-tariffs-canada-metals-50-2025-03-11/

I will never be able to own a house or buy a new car any time soon. Maybe, it’s time to look into moving and doing grad school in Europe. Taxes going towards billionaires while all spending towards government services gets cut is bullshit. This country is going to collapse in the next four years so people like Trump and Elon will buy businesses and properties for pennies.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on March 11, 2025, 08:24:02 AM
Katie Price running for CA Gov would good.  Too bad Kamala will run and win based off Dem seniority and name recognition
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Painted Baby on March 11, 2025, 10:01:23 AM
Katie Price running for CA Gov would good.  Too bad Kamala will run and win based off Dem seniority and name recognition
Katie Porter yeah?

I'm down with chucking out Newsom. He forever gets the side eye cuz of Guilfoyle but the anti-trans stunt he pulled on his podcast made me sick. It's a human rights issue you fucking human haircut.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: DaleSr on March 11, 2025, 10:07:13 AM
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Katie Price running for CA Gov would good.  Too bad Kamala will run and win based off Dem seniority and name recognition
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Katie Porter yeah?

I'm down with chucking out Newsom. He forever gets the side eye cuz of Guilfoyle but the anti-trans stunt he pulled on his podcast made me sick. It's a human rights issue you fucking human haircut.


Gavin announcing to the world, completely unprompted, that his son is a little groyper Charlie Kirk fan and then platforming that creep should instantly disqualify you from any position of dem leadership. Like that's a complete failure as a parent, let alone as a leader of a political party
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on March 11, 2025, 12:46:01 PM
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Katie Price running for CA Gov would good.  Too bad Kamala will run and win based off Dem seniority and name recognition
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Katie Porter yeah?

I'm down with chucking out Newsom. He forever gets the side eye cuz of Guilfoyle but the anti-trans stunt he pulled on his podcast made me sick. It's a human rights issue you fucking human haircut.

Hah yes porter, not the bizarre English model

And I’m not for chucking out newsom (despite this Kirk shit).   He’d be out on term limits.   
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: m477 on March 11, 2025, 01:02:15 PM
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I'm down with chucking out Newsom. He forever gets the side eye cuz of Guilfoyle but the anti-trans stunt he pulled on his podcast made me sick. It's a human rights issue you fucking human haircut.
Gavin gearing up for a presidential run and wants to distance himself from anything that could be perceived as far left. Funny how he was legitimately asking Kirk for advice on how the democrats can do better. Podcast was high on the cringe scale but I had to suffer through it.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: honda trukk on March 11, 2025, 01:03:18 PM
I was listening to toe rogans with the Andrew Schultz guy and he was saying you guys need somebody to come in and change the democrat party like trump came in and completely changed the Republican and what it means to be one

Makes sense to me cuz you guys are suckin rn I just wanna see everyone do their best
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on March 11, 2025, 01:32:35 PM
Trump making a press conference to protect a private citizen's business (Tesla) is insane.

Any other human would've been impeached ages ago for such blatant violations of rules and ethics. And yet, here we are.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mongo Lloyd on March 11, 2025, 02:23:17 PM
Trump making a press conference to protect a private citizen's business (Tesla) is insane.

Any other human would've been impeached ages ago for such blatant violations of rules and ethics. And yet, here we are.

Just like his photo-op with Goya products during his first term.

Just another violation of the Hatch act for dear ole Donnie.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: h00man on March 11, 2025, 04:51:15 PM
Trump making a press conference to protect a private citizen's business (Tesla) is insane.

Any other human would've been impeached ages ago for such blatant violations of rules and ethics
. And yet, here we are.

Laws don't apply to you if the billionaires say so.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on March 11, 2025, 07:00:59 PM
Trump making a press conference to protect a private citizen's business (Tesla) is insane.

Any other human would've been impeached ages ago for such blatant violations of rules and ethics. And yet, here we are.

I truly hope he gets a shitbox and it burst into flames while he’s shilling for skuM. That would make my decade.
I hope his supporters that are all about ‘dig baby dig’ and ‘rollin coal’ don’t have a heart attack when they see him climbing into a ‘pansy wagon’ electric.
 I’m still trying to wrap my head around how all these people can support an ‘alpha male’ who wears more fucking makeup than Tammy Faye ever did and hangs out with a VP that’s always in Guyliner(tm), had a cross dresser as an attorney(who is also married to his own first cousin), and his favorite governor was out and about in some fucking womens white go go boots.
These are their pictures of masculinity?!

The mind truly fucking boggles.


Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on March 12, 2025, 08:27:27 AM
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I'm down with chucking out Newsom. He forever gets the side eye cuz of Guilfoyle but the anti-trans stunt he pulled on his podcast made me sick. It's a human rights issue you fucking human haircut.
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Gavin gearing up for a presidential run and wants to distance himself from anything that could be perceived as far left. Funny how he was legitimately asking Kirk for advice on how the democrats can do better. Podcast was high on the cringe scale but I had to suffer through it.

Well it’s not like he’s gonna put Steve Bannon on next, right?   Right?!
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: brycickle on March 12, 2025, 09:54:22 AM
Trump making a press conference to protect a private citizen's business (Tesla) is insane.

Any other human would've been impeached ages ago for such blatant violations of rules and ethics. And yet, here we are.

Already been impeached twice with no real results. Now that he's shored up both houses, I can't see him even being impeached again. At least until mid-terms, if the voting public gets off their asses and actually does something about this shit show.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: companguero on March 12, 2025, 11:00:13 AM
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I'm down with chucking out Newsom. He forever gets the side eye cuz of Guilfoyle but the anti-trans stunt he pulled on his podcast made me sick. It's a human rights issue you fucking human haircut.
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Gavin gearing up for a presidential run and wants to distance himself from anything that could be perceived as far left. Funny how he was legitimately asking Kirk for advice on how the democrats can do better. Podcast was high on the cringe scale but I had to suffer through it.
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Well it’s not like he’s gonna put Steve Bannon on next, right?   Right?!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bq6cmSCqqrA

This Tim Dillon episode was the first time I've heard him speak at length, guy is a machine gun.
Take it for what it's worth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9aXjWdGWH8
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Top-Heavy Hookjaw on March 12, 2025, 07:17:40 PM
Mahmoud Khalil.
Trump trying to disappear people for having an opinion.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: JANUS on March 14, 2025, 03:27:29 PM
The stupid orange asshole suddenly thinks the Canada-US border is “artificial.” I wonder if that same logic applies to the US-Mexico border, as well.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: manuduncan on March 14, 2025, 03:41:59 PM
i have a grade school friend who i had lost touch with over last decade after he got in bad way with drug addiction and all that brings.  he finally did the hard work of turning his life around, met his girlfriend, had a kid together, and just started working in the national park service several years ago which he cites as a huge source of strength in keeping his sobriety

now he doesn't know if he'll have a job

fuck this administration
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Too Frank To Fred on March 14, 2025, 05:22:24 PM
Well we have secured housing for all remaining youth in the federally-funded program I run. 2 Weeks before the bastards shut us down for good. 1986 to infinity. My work here is done....
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: noxiousPond on March 14, 2025, 09:51:30 PM
It fucking blows my mind that he is STILL trying to tell the people that tariffs are a tax on them when it is clearly a tax on us. Absolute dog shit of a human.

And then you have dumbass left youtube media reporting that hes just stupid and doesnt know the difference when all they are really doing is using that as an excuse for a clickbait youtube title. "Trump LOSES HIS MIND! doesnt know what a tarrif is, suffers complete MELTDOWN, hell freezes over!"
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on March 14, 2025, 10:04:19 PM
Well we have secured housing for all remaining youth in the federally-funded program I run. 2 Weeks before the bastards shut us down for good. 1986 to infinity. My work here is done....

Bless ya for what you do. And sorry the bastards are shutting you down.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: backside_frontside on March 15, 2025, 06:16:59 AM
I was listening to toe rogans with the Andrew Schultz guy and he was saying you guys need somebody to come in and change the democrat party like trump came in and completely changed the Republican and what it means to be one

Makes sense to me cuz you guys are suckin rn I just wanna see everyone do their best
They had one, his name is Bernie Sanders, and the Dems knee-capped him because it was Hillary’s turn
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Unkle Fleak on March 15, 2025, 07:06:28 AM
Think mama stupid pants got their Teslers from borra?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on March 15, 2025, 08:50:24 AM
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I was listening to toe rogans with the Andrew Schultz guy and he was saying you guys need somebody to come in and change the democrat party like trump came in and completely changed the Republican and what it means to be one

Makes sense to me cuz you guys are suckin rn I just wanna see everyone do their best
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They had one, his name is Bernie Sanders, and the Dems knee-capped him because it was Hillary’s turn


I am very pro-Bernie, but I still find it weird that people were shocked the DNC didn’t embrace Bernie.  He’s not a democrat, he’s not in the party, he’s never fundraised or done anything for them, so why do people think the DNC would embrace him over someone who’s been at the top of the leadership for 2 decades, especially after she unexpectedly got pushed aside in 08 (and by extension 2012) when Obama became undeniable.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Willie on March 15, 2025, 09:27:21 AM
I wish Bernie had been the nominee (even though he got smoked in the actual vote count) because then if he lost in the general election (after being painted as a communist), I wouldn’t have to hear about how “he would have won” for the next decade.

I mean, I think it would have been great if he won but I also don’t believe he necessarily stood a better chance than Hillary and I don’t fault the DNC for not thinking so either. He would have definitely picked up more left leaning voters who stayed home or went for Jill Fucking Stein but he probably would have lost a certain number of more conservative Dems who voted for Obama and have migrated to Trump since.

Bernie continues to suck the air out of the room whole accomplishing very little concrete results. I still doubt a hard left shift gets the White House and it definitely doesn’t improve the Senate position.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: L33Tg33k on March 15, 2025, 05:28:27 PM
President Musk is coming after the post office. DeJoy quit with a final fuck you to all the employees by sucking Elmo’s little dick. Possibly 10,000 will be fired when we’re already short staffed. Cool.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on March 15, 2025, 06:32:23 PM
President Musk is coming after the post office. DeJoy quit with a final fuck you to all the employees by sucking Elmo’s little dick. Possibly 10,000 will be fired when we’re already short staffed. Cool.

And the excuse will be “the mail is unreliable, so we must switch to one day, in-person voting.”

Then watch Democrat heavy areas only get one or two polling locations to service populations of 1,000,000 and more.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Top-Heavy Hookjaw on March 15, 2025, 07:52:33 PM
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/feds-appear-columbia-second-time-week-while-university-capitualates-government-ultimatum-0

Columbia is revoking degrees to appease this  asshole and his cronies.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on March 15, 2025, 08:38:55 PM
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/feds-appear-columbia-second-time-week-while-university-capitualates-government-ultimatum-0

Columbia is revoking degrees to appease this  asshole and his cronies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mU7hdGKOGyk
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: backside_frontside on March 16, 2025, 09:10:40 AM
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I was listening to toe rogans with the Andrew Schultz guy and he was saying you guys need somebody to come in and change the democrat party like trump came in and completely changed the Republican and what it means to be one

Makes sense to me cuz you guys are suckin rn I just wanna see everyone do their best
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They had one, his name is Bernie Sanders, and the Dems knee-capped him because it was Hillary’s turn
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I am very pro-Bernie, but I still find it weird that people were shocked the DNC didn’t embrace Bernie.  He’s not a democrat, he’s not in the party, he’s never fundraised or done anything for them, so why do people think the DNC would embrace him over someone who’s been at the top of the leadership for 2 decades, especially after she unexpectedly got pushed aside in 08 (and by extension 2012) when Obama became undeniable.

I don’t disagree with you but I’m just saying the best populist candidate the Dems had was Bernie. Sadly, it doesn’t look like there is another to fill his place and if there is, the Dems will manage to bungle that one too. It sucks
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on March 16, 2025, 09:31:10 AM
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I was listening to toe rogans with the Andrew Schultz guy and he was saying you guys need somebody to come in and change the democrat party like trump came in and completely changed the Republican and what it means to be one

Makes sense to me cuz you guys are suckin rn I just wanna see everyone do their best
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They had one, his name is Bernie Sanders, and the Dems knee-capped him because it was Hillary’s turn
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I am very pro-Bernie, but I still find it weird that people were shocked the DNC didn’t embrace Bernie.  He’s not a democrat, he’s not in the party, he’s never fundraised or done anything for them, so why do people think the DNC would embrace him over someone who’s been at the top of the leadership for 2 decades, especially after she unexpectedly got pushed aside in 08 (and by extension 2012) when Obama became undeniable.
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I don’t disagree with you but I’m just saying the best populist candidate the Dems had was Bernie. Sadly, it doesn’t look like there is another to fill his place and if there is, the Dems will manage to bungle that one too. It sucks


My internal debate is always whether a politician should be president or run for senate.   Mayor Pete is apparently eschewing a senate seat for a preS run in 28 which I think is silly.   Bernie was someone I thought was more effective in the senate and didn’t see him being particularly effective in the executive branch unless he started ruling by EO which no one previously had really tried (though the charge was levied against Obama), but everyday since, I just wish we had given it a try at least and seen how republicans would have treated him in the media and how he would have combatted that especially since he wasn’t seen as a blood enemy of the gop like the Clinton’s were.   
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: sexualhelon on March 16, 2025, 09:50:07 AM
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I was listening to toe rogans with the Andrew Schultz guy and he was saying you guys need somebody to come in and change the democrat party like trump came in and completely changed the Republican and what it means to be one

Makes sense to me cuz you guys are suckin rn I just wanna see everyone do their best
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They had one, his name is Bernie Sanders, and the Dems knee-capped him because it was Hillary’s turn
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I am very pro-Bernie, but I still find it weird that people were shocked the DNC didn’t embrace Bernie.  He’s not a democrat, he’s not in the party, he’s never fundraised or done anything for them, so why do people think the DNC would embrace him over someone who’s been at the top of the leadership for 2 decades, especially after she unexpectedly got pushed aside in 08 (and by extension 2012) when Obama became undeniable.
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I don’t disagree with you but I’m just saying the best populist candidate the Dems had was Bernie. Sadly, it doesn’t look like there is another to fill his place and if there is, the Dems will manage to bungle that one too. It sucks
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My internal debate is always whether a politician should be president or run for senate.   Mayor Pete is apparently eschewing a senate seat for a preS run in 28 which I think is silly.   Bernie was someone I thought was more effective in the senate and didn’t see him being particularly effective in the executive branch unless he started ruling by EO which no one previously had really tried (though the charge was levied against Obama), but everyday since, I just wish we had given it a try at least and seen how republicans would have treated him in the media and how he would have combatted that especially since he wasn’t seen as a blood enemy of the gop like the Clinton’s were.

I'm a Bernie fan, happy that he's still being vocal about things now. I will say that he was kind of a pushover during that DNC scandal. The email leaks had allegations of bias against his presidential campaign that contradicted the DNC leaderships publicly stated neutrality. DNC operatives openly derided his campaign and were trying to advance Clinton's. There were some other allegations on how they were colluding against him. It was a bummer to see how he seemed like a pushover and just dropped out, supported Hilary. Not sure what he really could have done.

I don't remember for certain but it seems like he wasn't as vocal for a while after that? And also pretty quiet during the Biden presidency? It's not like the core issues have changed but it certainly seems like they should have been going harder to prevent this from happening when they had Biden in office.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Willie on March 16, 2025, 12:09:06 PM
The idea of Mayor Pete being the next presidential candidate is batshit stupid and if he himself doesn’t perceive that I have a lot less respect for him.

This might be shallow and glib but the next Democratic presidential candidate should be a handsome, straight, male. Possibly Latino. Possibly George Clooney. Only a woman if extremely hot.

It’s basically a high school student council election and democrats need to treat it thusly.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mongo Lloyd on March 16, 2025, 12:11:30 PM
No thanks to Pete, that guy is literally a corporate plant. He’s basically been groomed by the establishment.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on March 16, 2025, 12:21:27 PM
The idea of Mayor Pete being the next presidential candidate is batshit stupid and if he himself doesn’t perceive that I have a lot less respect for him.

This might be shallow and glib but the next Democratic presidential candidate should be a handsome, straight, male. Possibly Latino. Possibly George Clooney. Only a woman if extremely hot.

It’s basically a high school student council election and democrats need to treat it thusly.


Gavin Newsom says hi
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: pugmaster on March 16, 2025, 06:37:17 PM
Jon Stewart and The Rock.

There is no way in hell they would lose.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: fakie nollie on March 16, 2025, 06:48:55 PM
J-Rock, with J-ROC as campaign manager. Knowhatimsayin’
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: backside_frontside on March 16, 2025, 07:02:07 PM
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The idea of Mayor Pete being the next presidential candidate is batshit stupid and if he himself doesn’t perceive that I have a lot less respect for him.

This might be shallow and glib but the next Democratic presidential candidate should be a handsome, straight, male. Possibly Latino. Possibly George Clooney. Only a woman if extremely hot.

It’s basically a high school student council election and democrats need to treat it thusly.
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Gavin Newsom says hi
He's the definition of the coastal elite Dem
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on March 16, 2025, 07:24:23 PM
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The idea of Mayor Pete being the next presidential candidate is batshit stupid and if he himself doesn’t perceive that I have a lot less respect for him.

This might be shallow and glib but the next Democratic presidential candidate should be a handsome, straight, male. Possibly Latino. Possibly George Clooney. Only a woman if extremely hot.

It’s basically a high school student council election and democrats need to treat it thusly.
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Gavin Newsom says hi
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He's the definition of the coastal elite Dem

I was saying him in response to:  Handsome, straight white male

I thought favorably of him before this podcasting mishegoss, but he has been no stranger with going on Fox and debating the Right and coming out looking good.   I’m sure if he had any real boogeymen in his past, Kim Guilfoyle would have said something by now. 

But he also feels like going back to the late 00s model of a politician - you got Romney in my Obama, you got Obama in my Romney - which isn’t ideal.   But who even knows what America looks like in 2028 to decide who emcompasses the fix needed
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mr. Pickles on March 16, 2025, 08:11:25 PM
It’s cute that you guys think we’re ever having national elections again.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Sedition on March 16, 2025, 08:45:43 PM
I love these stories. We need more of them.


He voted for Trump. Now his wife sits in an ICE detention center.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2025/03/16/mass-deportation-ice-detains-non-criminals/82304354007/
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Billy Bitchcakes on March 17, 2025, 08:05:09 AM
I mean it's funny but I'd rather there was justice against the people doing the deporting personally
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Willie on March 17, 2025, 08:35:14 AM
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The idea of Mayor Pete being the next presidential candidate is batshit stupid and if he himself doesn’t perceive that I have a lot less respect for him.

This might be shallow and glib but the next Democratic presidential candidate should be a handsome, straight, male. Possibly Latino. Possibly George Clooney. Only a woman if extremely hot.

It’s basically a high school student council election and democrats need to treat it thusly.
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Gavin Newsom says hi
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He's the definition of the coastal elite Dem
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I was saying him in response to:  Handsome, straight white male

I thought favorably of him before this podcasting mishegoss, but he has been no stranger with going on Fox and debating the Right and coming out looking good.   I’m sure if he had any real boogeymen in his past, Kim Guilfoyle would have said something by now. 

But he also feels like going back to the late 00s model of a politician - you got Romney in my Obama, you got Obama in my Romney - which isn’t ideal.   But who even knows what America looks like in 2028 to decide who emcompasses the fix needed

I like Newsome and think he’s good on his feet during interviews and debates but he definitely fits the “coastal elite” mold to a T and carries too much California baggage.

So yeah, someone of that ilk but maybe from a red or purple state, possibly a veteran or from business/medicine, and who could plausibly change engine oil or do manual labor. Is that too much to ask?!?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on March 17, 2025, 09:11:24 AM
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The idea of Mayor Pete being the next presidential candidate is batshit stupid and if he himself doesn’t perceive that I have a lot less respect for him.

This might be shallow and glib but the next Democratic presidential candidate should be a handsome, straight, male. Possibly Latino. Possibly George Clooney. Only a woman if extremely hot.

It’s basically a high school student council election and democrats need to treat it thusly.
[close]


Gavin Newsom says hi
[close]
He's the definition of the coastal elite Dem
[close]

I was saying him in response to:  Handsome, straight white male

I thought favorably of him before this podcasting mishegoss, but he has been no stranger with going on Fox and debating the Right and coming out looking good.   I’m sure if he had any real boogeymen in his past, Kim Guilfoyle would have said something by now. 

But he also feels like going back to the late 00s model of a politician - you got Romney in my Obama, you got Obama in my Romney - which isn’t ideal.   But who even knows what America looks like in 2028 to decide who emcompasses the fix needed
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I like Newsome and think he’s good on his feet during interviews and debates but he definitely fits the “coastal elite” mold to a T and carries too much California baggage.

So yeah, someone of that ilk but maybe from a red or purple state, possibly a veteran or from business/medicine, and who could plausibly change engine oil or do manual labor. Is that too much to ask?!?


So straight Mayor Pete without corp baggage

Just learned he never tailors his suits to be more of an “Everyman”
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: DaleSr on March 21, 2025, 10:25:07 PM
Pritzker should be one to watch, but none of that matters with the current crisis and extraordinary renditions happening all over.

I, John Brown, am now quite certain that the crimes of this guilty land will never be purged away but with blood. I had, as I now think, vainly flattered myself that without very much bloodshed it might be done.
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Post by: Painted Baby on March 23, 2025, 01:07:46 PM
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The idea of Mayor Pete being the next presidential candidate is batshit stupid and if he himself doesn’t perceive that I have a lot less respect for him.

This might be shallow and glib but the next Democratic presidential candidate should be a handsome, straight, male. Possibly Latino. Possibly George Clooney. Only a woman if extremely hot.

It’s basically a high school student council election and democrats need to treat it thusly.
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Gavin Newsom says hi
[close]
He's the definition of the coastal elite Dem
[close]

I was saying him in response to:  Handsome, straight white male

I thought favorably of him before this podcasting mishegoss, but he has been no stranger with going on Fox and debating the Right and coming out looking good.   I’m sure if he had any real boogeymen in his past, Kim Guilfoyle would have said something by now. 

But he also feels like going back to the late 00s model of a politician - you got Romney in my Obama, you got Obama in my Romney - which isn’t ideal.   But who even knows what America looks like in 2028 to decide who emcompasses the fix needed
[close]

I like Newsome and think he’s good on his feet during interviews and debates but he definitely fits the “coastal elite” mold to a T and carries too much California baggage.

So yeah, someone of that ilk but maybe from a red or purple state, possibly a veteran or from business/medicine, and who could plausibly change engine oil or do manual labor. Is that too much to ask?!?
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So straight Mayor Pete without corp baggage

Just learned he never tailors his suits to be more of an “Everyman”
No need with such a rockin bod

AOC turned 35 this year and split the ticket in her district. Bernie is out here actively passing the torch with that tour. I think she's gonna primary Schumer and then ride that to the White House. I've thought she'd likely run since the day after election day and nothing that has happened has changed my take. I would love a DNC takeover and I think things are bad enough to let that happen. I'm like Charlie Brown with the football on this though so my take is probably worhtless.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Blockwork on March 23, 2025, 02:34:24 PM
You guys need an outsider, preferably not a politician
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Blockwork on March 23, 2025, 02:37:59 PM
You guys got no one I wanna vote for president except Bernie or yang

Like you guys are so bad, I, a social security, Medicaid, and food stamp recipient didn't vote D for president. I did for local judges and libertarian where I could but not president.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on March 23, 2025, 03:14:02 PM
I'll bite as I'm curious where this goes, you rely on the government for immediate support and you voted libertarian? Why would you vote for those who want to take the government away from you and want you to either sink or swim on your own?

As someone--supposedly--receiving the support libertarians want to see discontinued, what is the rationale on this vote? How does your support of Bernie who wants to see business regulated and the social safety net expanded intermix with those who want to see little to no regulation and no social safety net? Honestly curious, what do you see that I do not?

"We should eliminate the entire social welfare system. This includes eliminating food stamps, subsidized housing, and all the rest. Individuals who are unable to fully support themselves and their families through the job market must, once again, learn to rely on supportive family, church, community, or private charity to bridge the gap."
--Libertarian Party of Indiana
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on March 23, 2025, 03:17:21 PM
You guys need an outsider, preferably not a politician

Gee, those types work out well
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Blockwork on March 23, 2025, 03:22:02 PM
I'll bite as I'm curious where this goes, you rely on the government for immediate support and you voted libertarian? Why would you vote for those who want to take the government away from you and want you to either sink or swim on your own?

As someone--supposedly--receiving the support libertarians want to see discontinued, what is the rationale on this vote? How does your support of Bernie who wants to see business regulated and the social safety net expanded intermix with those who want to see little to no regulation and no social safety net? Honestly curious, what do you see that I do not?

"We should eliminate the entire social welfare system. This includes eliminating food stamps, subsidized housing, and all the rest. Individuals who are unable to fully support themselves and their families through the job market must, once again, learn to rely on supportive family, church, community, or private charity to bridge the gap."
--Libertarian Party of Indiana
Well if we had a libertarian society I would have no problem making money and providing for myself. I'm in this life for myself, if social security is available I will use it, I like it, if you wanna abolish it and have a libertarian society well I'm up for that too

I'm not stuck in one political mindset, we can run whatever and I'll figure it out for myself
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Painted Baby on March 23, 2025, 03:31:36 PM
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I'll bite as I'm curious where this goes, you rely on the government for immediate support and you voted libertarian? Why would you vote for those who want to take the government away from you and want you to either sink or swim on your own?

As someone--supposedly--receiving the support libertarians want to see discontinued, what is the rationale on this vote? How does your support of Bernie who wants to see business regulated and the social safety net expanded intermix with those who want to see little to no regulation and no social safety net? Honestly curious, what do you see that I do not?

"We should eliminate the entire social welfare system. This includes eliminating food stamps, subsidized housing, and all the rest. Individuals who are unable to fully support themselves and their families through the job market must, once again, learn to rely on supportive family, church, community, or private charity to bridge the gap."
--Libertarian Party of Indiana
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Well if we had a libertarian society I would have no problem making money and providing for myself. I'm in this life for myself, if social security is available I will use it, I like it, if you wanna abolish it and have a libertarian society well I'm up for that too

I'm not stuck in one political mindset, we can run whatever and I'll figure it out for myself
You're either a fraudster or more likely lying your ass off about being a recipient. You don't just fall off a log and get Social Security. It's either you hit retirement age or you hire a lawyer to help expedite your disability claim. If you can make money other ways, you would as it's just above poverty level and you only get it after a long and arduous process. Juice ain't worth the squeeze unless you truly cannot work.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on March 23, 2025, 03:47:52 PM
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I'll bite as I'm curious where this goes, you rely on the government for immediate support and you voted libertarian? Why would you vote for those who want to take the government away from you and want you to either sink or swim on your own?

As someone--supposedly--receiving the support libertarians want to see discontinued, what is the rationale on this vote? How does your support of Bernie who wants to see business regulated and the social safety net expanded intermix with those who want to see little to no regulation and no social safety net? Honestly curious, what do you see that I do not?

"We should eliminate the entire social welfare system. This includes eliminating food stamps, subsidized housing, and all the rest. Individuals who are unable to fully support themselves and their families through the job market must, once again, learn to rely on supportive family, church, community, or private charity to bridge the gap."
--Libertarian Party of Indiana
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Well if we had a libertarian society I would have no problem making money and providing for myself. I'm in this life for myself, if social security is available I will use it, I like it, if you wanna abolish it and have a libertarian society well I'm up for that too

I'm not stuck in one political mindset, we can run whatever and I'll figure it out for myself

Ok, I'll continue to play along in good faith:

1. We still need to discuss the question of why you like Bernie but also support libertarian ideas. Why do you support things that are opposite of one another? I don't see the logic here, but I'm curious what you are seeing that I don't.

2. America is one of the most "classically liberal" (as libertarians like to say) nations in the world, what exactly is preventing you from succeeding today? And, what would change that would allow you to make money and provide for yourself?

If you are struggling now why would you all of the sudden do better in a society that leans even more heavily on the social Darwinist idea of "survival of the fittest"? My first thought is that someone in your position, with no help, is likely to sink further rather than magically develop the skills or network to "succeed."
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Blockwork on March 23, 2025, 03:53:48 PM
Drugs lurper, drugs. That is why I like the idea of libertarianism, big ups trump for freeing Ross btw.

And I like Bernie cause I'm fine with socialism like I'm fine with libertarianism, I think you don't understand when I say I'm not locked into one political thought
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Blind Fisherman on March 23, 2025, 04:05:22 PM
It seems as though you’re not locked into much thought whatsoever.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on March 23, 2025, 04:19:53 PM
Drugs lurper, drugs. That is why I like the idea of libertarianism, big ups trump for freeing Ross btw.

And I like Bernie cause I'm fine with socialism like I'm fine with libertarianism, I think you don't understand when I say I'm not locked into one political thought

Interesting.

The freedom to use drugs and alignment with libertarians make sense. I initially supported libertarians in high school for this same reason, but I couldn't continue this support long term with all the other policies the group had.

However, the Trump call out makes a little less sense. Trump praises countries that use the death penalty on drug dealers and said clearly, "I'm ready for the death penalty for drug dealers" https://youtu.be/4iyqZsE9bkA?si=_0xLEgughIN23roE&t=4040. His pardon of Ross seems not to reflect his feelings on drugs and how to approach them, but simply a give away to get cyrpto votes and people to buy his meme coins.

Also, the left has a strong history with wanting to de-criminalize drugs and led the way when it came to recreational marijuana. It isn't a perfect overlap but if we look at the election map and the map of where weed is recreationally legal, blue states are more likely to overlap with freedom here (https://covercannabis.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/us-cannabis-map-covercannabis.jpg and https://lamag.com/.image/t_share/MjEwNjM4OTMxNTAxMjYyODI1/2024-us-presidential-election-electoral-map---trump-vs-harris-.png).

As for not being locked into one thought, these are pretty strong differences. I have flexibility on some issues and none of us align perfectly with any party platform, but it is interesting to see that you can be supportive of two directly opposing cores of political thought.

Fair enough. Thanks for answering the questions.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on March 23, 2025, 05:48:19 PM
It seems as though you’re not locked into much thought whatsoever.

That’s most libertarians for you.  Locked in a freshman year first bong rip thought exercise and think it’s a political stance.   
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Too Frank To Fred on March 23, 2025, 06:26:14 PM
Just a reminder there are Left-wing libertarians also aka Anarchists.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mongo Lloyd on March 23, 2025, 07:03:17 PM
Just a reminder there are Left-wing libertarians also aka Anarchists.

Fucking Chumbawambas.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: DaleSr on March 24, 2025, 10:03:29 AM
Just a reminder there are Left-wing libertarians also aka Anarchists.

The eternal fight against the chore wheel wages on
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on March 24, 2025, 11:22:45 AM
Just a reminder there are Left-wing libertarians also aka Anarchists.

I wonder if word's meaning has changed so much that it no longer applies. I know Paul Avrich used the term libertarian when describing anarcho-syndicalists (https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/paul-avrich-the-anarchists-of-the-russian-revolution) and anarcho-capitalsim had been used in the past and is currently used by some of the most annoying libertarians, but I feel anarchism and libertarianism need to be separated, despite being two sides of the same no government coin.

Anarchism is a belief in individualism but based on the assumption of the inherent good of people and value of sharing, empathy, respect, and disdain for capitalism. Libertarianism is a belief in the individual, but based on the assumption of the inherent bad in people and value in greed, selfishness, ruthlessness, and unreflective love of capitalism. One promotes freedom via mutual respect and the other promotes self-protection though disrespect and distrust.



And, in a bit of good news, since there is often so little with this new administration. Despite RFK's kookery around the measles out break banning direct to consumer pharma ads wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing
https://www.wsj.com/articles/what-rfk-jr-s-dislike-for-drug-tv-commercials-could-mean-for-the-ad-industry-41b08696

Canada's rules aren't great, but they are better than ours
https://www.canada.ca/en/health-canada/services/drugs-health-products/marketing-drugs-devices/illegal-marketing/prescription-drugs.html

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on March 24, 2025, 05:54:13 PM
So, who do you think Trump is going to blame this huge Signal App fiasco on? Hunter Biden? DEI? Trans people?

Obviously he's not going to paint this as big as a security threat as Hillary's emails, because while her email was secure, she was a woman. In this case, even though they used the same app I make skate session plans with the homies, they're Republican men, so it's really not apples and oranges, right?

/s
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: JANUS on March 24, 2025, 06:00:21 PM
Buttery mails!
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: LUGR on March 24, 2025, 06:27:29 PM
So, who do you think Trump is going to blame this huge Signal App fiasco on? Hunter Biden? DEI? Trans people?

Obviously he's not going to paint this as big as a security threat as Hillary's emails, because while her email was secure, she was a woman. In this case, even though they used the same app I make skate session plans with the homies, they're Republican men, so it's really not apples and oranges, right?

/s

Probably Lil Maaaaaarco.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: radcunt on March 24, 2025, 07:46:43 PM
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The idea of Mayor Pete being the next presidential candidate is batshit stupid and if he himself doesn’t perceive that I have a lot less respect for him.

This might be shallow and glib but the next Democratic presidential candidate should be a handsome, straight, male. Possibly Latino. Possibly George Clooney. Only a woman if extremely hot.

It’s basically a high school student council election and democrats need to treat it thusly.
[close]


Gavin Newsom says hi


That cunt has shit his bed something fierce
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: radcunt on March 24, 2025, 07:47:53 PM
So, who do you think Trump is going to blame this huge Signal App fiasco on? Hunter Biden? DEI? Trans people?

Obviously he's not going to paint this as big as a security threat as Hillary's emails, because while her email was secure, she was a woman. In this case, even though they used the same app I make skate session plans with the homies, they're Republican men, so it's really not apples and oranges, right?

/s


He just won't worry about it or truely acknowledge it.  He doesn't give a shit and neither do his followers, and no one else is doing shit.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on March 25, 2025, 02:17:44 AM
I've been slacking the updates but cataloging all this shit is emotionally exhuasting.

A few small updates

NIH no longer funding climate change research. If we ignore it, it isn't real.
https://www.propublica.org/article/nih-funding-climate-change-public-health?utm_source=sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=majorinvestigations&utm_content=feature

Telsa no longer eligible for ev rebate in PEI 8)
https://www.ctvnews.ca/atlantic/prince-edward-island/article/pei-says-teslas-no-longer-eligible-for-electric-vehicle-rebate

Trump admin handling of internal documents is top notch
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/03/trump-administration-accidentally-texted-me-its-war-plans/682151/

Columbia Uni effectively bullied by Trump
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/24/nyregion/columbia-trump-response.html

IRS poor performance reasoning for cutting jobs obvious lie
https://www.propublica.org/article/trump-irs-firings-doge-fraud-law-job-performance

US refuses to clean up its mess in Vietnam
https://www.propublica.org/article/trump-halted-agent-orange-cleanup-dioxin-vietnam-poison-risk

Trump admin likely defies court order and makes up excuses not to give up information requested by judge
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/24/us/politics/judge-ruling-trump-deportations-alien-enemies-act.html

In trade war idiocy, Trump decides America should cut down its forests instead of getting better wood from Canada
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/02/climate/trump-logging-national-forests.html

US Perm Residents being threatened with deportation for challenging Bibi's murders (free speech absolutism)
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/24/nyregion/columbia-student-ice-suit-yunseo-chung.html
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: SmashtheState on March 26, 2025, 08:36:39 AM
The fact that turd isn't denying he's a puppet for Putin scares me. It just shows how obvious hes a useful idiot.

Now as far as my asylum as I'm Palestinian and Irish I'm not keeping my head down but definitely feel the looks around the Mississippi area. 

Just waiting for the night of long knives, he's already got his SS doing his bidding. How and why have the Democrats decided to do nothing?! To me it's insane...
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on March 26, 2025, 09:12:34 AM
The fact that turd isn't denying he's a puppet for Putin scares me. It just shows how obvious hes a useful idiot.

Now as far as my asylum as I'm Palestinian and Irish I'm not keeping my head down but definitely feel the looks around the Mississippi area. 

Just waiting for the night of long knives, he's already got his SS doing his bidding. How and why have the Democrats decided to do nothing?! To me it's insane...

Love the Irish embraced the Paddystinian thing Zionists were trying to insult them with.  Stay safe
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: SmashtheState on March 26, 2025, 09:50:46 AM
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The fact that turd isn't denying he's a puppet for Putin scares me. It just shows how obvious hes a useful idiot.

Now as far as my asylum as I'm Palestinian and Irish I'm not keeping my head down but definitely feel the looks around the Mississippi area. 

Just waiting for the night of long knives, he's already got his SS doing his bidding. How and why have the Democrats decided to do nothing?! To me it's insane...
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Love the Irish embraced the Paddystinian thing Zionists were trying to insult them with.  Stay safe
Thanks mate, family immigrated to NYC then Mississippi 2015ish. It's been a trip as I live alone now. I feel for my ppl in Gaza as ethnic cleansing is happening, I'm pissed but I don't want to go back.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on March 28, 2025, 10:38:14 AM
Russian paid propaganda reporter, Poo Boy, was added to the White House Press Pool to cover Orange Man.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/tim-pool-was-paid-by-russia-but-will-joins-white-house-press-pool/
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Fire Air Walk with Me on March 28, 2025, 11:38:20 AM
Will that bald fuck be issued a state sanctioned beanie?! Find out next week on USABZ
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on March 28, 2025, 11:57:41 AM
Will that bald fuck be issued a state sanctioned beanie?! Find out next week on USABZ

Red MAGA beanie that says, “Trump was right about Russia.”
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Jehoshaphat Augustus on March 28, 2025, 12:20:10 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/MwS9RPw/Screenshot-20250328-141910-Reddit.jpg)
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Scarecrow Radio on March 28, 2025, 04:22:54 PM
^LOL
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on March 28, 2025, 07:05:51 PM
Greenlanders refuse to meet with VP of America's wife
https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/greenland-visit-cancelled-after-locals-refuse-to-welcome-usha-vance-391306/

Musk--the free-speech absolutist--attempts to censor Reddit
https://archive.is/8PlKn

Make America Healthy Again by reducing funding for health in Illinois
https://www.nprillinois.org/news/2025-03-28/trump-administration-cuts-impact-the-departments-of-human-services-and-public-health-first-listen

Trump blocks federal union members from collective bargaining. (Anyone in a union who voted for Trump made a really stupid decision.)
https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/trump-signs-executive-order-end-collective-bargaining-agencies-involve-rcna198618

Democrats had a good idea behind their expansion of broadband to rural areas, but too many hoops to jump through. Musk reaping benefits
https://jacobin.com/2025/03/musk-starlink-rural-internet-jobs

Furthering the idea that honest work is for sucks, Tim Pool's grift returns in a place in the white house reporter pool
https://www.thedailybeast.com/tim-pool-was-paid-by-russia-but-will-joins-white-house-press-pool

Scamming others is ok if you're friends with someone in the Trump admin
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/28/business/carlos-watson-ozy-media-trump.html

A little old, but worth having on record, while Trump muses death penalty for drug dealers, he is willing to pardon drug dealers if benefits him
https://www.newyorker.com/news/the-lede/why-trump-freed-ross-ulbricht-the-silk-roads-dread-pirate-roberts

Musk sells Twitter to Himself
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/28/technology/musk-x-xai.html

10K cut from Health and Human services
https://apnews.com/article/health-human-services-layoffs-restructuring-rfk-jr-fa4e89285e668a3939e20b6cf4c26fd4

Trump attempts to silence legal dissent by targeting law firms via executive orders. Two fight back with legal challenges and one capitulates
https://www.reuters.com/legal/jenner-block-sues-us-government-following-trump-executive-order-2025-03-28/
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/28/business/jenner-block-wilmer-hale-trump-lawsuit.html
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: fruits, nuts, + seeds:) on March 29, 2025, 06:51:57 AM
neil young- rockin in the free world {slowed + reverb}
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: RichardBarkley on March 29, 2025, 07:48:48 AM
Looking at the protests in Serbia and Turkey why aren't Americans protesting.

This fucking scumbag is single handly destroying Americas soft power and reputation around the world while trying to start WW3.

Nevermind the fact that the majority of Americans voted for him. If you guys are all so upset why dont you take action?

It's not just for you it's for the rest of the world.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: augustmoon on March 29, 2025, 07:59:19 AM
I used to think rightwinger’s cries of “civil war coming” was just emotional hyperbole, but now I think it’s an inevitability.  No way through this mess without a lot of people dying.  Pretty surreal seeing this happen in real time
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: RichardBarkley on March 29, 2025, 08:06:20 AM
I used to think rightwinger’s cries of “civil war coming” was just emotional hyperbole, but now I think it’s an inevitability.  No way through this mess without a lot of people dying.  Pretty surreal seeing this happen in real time

You really think this will lead to civil war?

Not challenging you just interested to hear a prospective from someone in America.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: augustmoon on March 29, 2025, 08:33:02 AM
I don’t know what a “civil war” would really look like in this day and age.   I think at least one state will be labeled “insurrectionist” or “terrorist” for not enforcing illegal executive orders, and I think the military will kill a lot of people and institute martial law.   If that qualifies as a civil war, then yeah. 

I think we’re real real close to disappearing citizens for their beliefs.  I think we’re real real close to domestic drone strikes.  I think a large scale massacre of protestors is a near certainty. 

Real, unironic, New World Order shit is happening.  They’re priming the public opinion for eugenics and genocide.  The “opposition” leaders are obeying in advance because they know it’s over.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Top-Heavy Hookjaw on March 29, 2025, 09:50:56 AM
Looking at the protests in Serbia and Turkey why aren't Americans protesting.

This fucking scumbag is single handly destroying Americas soft power and reputation around the world while trying to start WW3.

Nevermind the fact that the majority of Americans voted for him. If you guys are all so upset why dont you take action?

It's not just for you it's for the rest of the world.

Hold on, let me put my pink shirt on.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: RichardBarkley on March 29, 2025, 10:14:11 AM
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Looking at the protests in Serbia and Turkey why aren't Americans protesting.

This fucking scumbag is single handly destroying Americas soft power and reputation around the world while trying to start WW3.

Nevermind the fact that the majority of Americans voted for him. If you guys are all so upset why dont you take action?

It's not just for you it's for the rest of the world.
[close]

Hold on, let me put my pink shirt on.

You do that
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Too Frank To Fred on March 29, 2025, 10:52:54 AM
As a Brit living in Trump's USA, this was a captivating read this morning,

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/mar/29/britain-has-been-paying-a-high-price-for-uncle-sams-craziness-its-time-to-turn-to-europe (https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/mar/29/britain-has-been-paying-a-high-price-for-uncle-sams-craziness-its-time-to-turn-to-europe)

In other news, we made the headlines in Portland,

https://www.oregonlive.com/politics/2025/03/after-nearly-40-years-serving-homeless-youth-portland-transitional-housing-program-forced-to-close.html (https://www.oregonlive.com/politics/2025/03/after-nearly-40-years-serving-homeless-youth-portland-transitional-housing-program-forced-to-close.html)
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Blockwork on March 29, 2025, 03:42:40 PM
Lol ain't nothing gonna happen. It's comfy here. Most Americans are psyched cause most Americans voted for this. Reminds me of when people say "late term capitalism" like we're not just getting started with this shit
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Too Frank To Fred on March 29, 2025, 05:42:14 PM
Late Capitalism is a thing though, mate. There very well could be an end to it because ultimately it is a self-defeating system. The end goal of capitalism (if it is not heavily regulated) puts too much wealth into too few hands making it top heavy and unworkable and/ or it will exploit natural resources to the point of no return.

It's not just a matter of Americans continuing to belief in it or not....
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Unkle Fleak on March 29, 2025, 06:07:25 PM
Laws are out the window. America runs on gut feelings and underpaid relatives.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: ToySanta on March 29, 2025, 06:38:46 PM
Ya’ll. Respectfully, many Americans voted for machismo and that which they do not understand. Hell, we are seeing how uneducated Trump & Musk are in relation to how the government actually runs. The erosion of and blindspots in education are by design.

If you are sourcing your news from legacy media you are not getting as much truth. An acquaintance of mine went to a Bernie/AOC rally last week that was 30,000 strong & news ain’t say shit. We’ve gone local. There ain’t gonna be a march a la 2016 or 2020. Protests are more localized as is the mutual aid.

And to wade into the weeds, most Americans that showed up to vote last November were really fuckin stupid, yeah, but a bunch of little bitches sat at home and let this happen too. A lot less than 2020. Never underestimate our propensity for racism, sexism, and wealth worship. A deadly combination that most of the world is watching play out more obviously now.

As for the state of the Democratic leadership. It’s an embarrassment of bitches their too. They’re still trying to play by the rules of a game that changed too long ago. Motherfuckers. We all want them to step aside or stand the fuck up, but they got lobby dollars to collect and books to shill at the moment. Motherfucking fucks for sure. But A LOT of us are doing shit that the New York Times isn’t going to announce.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: grimcity on March 30, 2025, 09:51:28 AM
I've worked in state govt for about 18 years (previously IT, comms, and web administration for some education grants and programs, now healthcare- primarily HIV/STI prevention and treatment and harm reduction).

We already had a lean team in IT, but Friday we lost four people due to funding cuts. Been in a bit of shock all weekend... we lost some incredible talent that can't be replaced, not to mention they're just awesome people.

Everyone in the department has updated their resume in case of a new cuts. We're scared for ourselves and the people we serve.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Willie on March 30, 2025, 03:09:03 PM
“Changes” doesn’t really sum up the last two and a half months very well anymore.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: radcunt on March 30, 2025, 04:04:58 PM
I put Project 2025 into Chatgpt, asking if it was put into action, what would be the roadmap.  Understanding Chatgpt is last updated last October, it's chilling how on point it is with what they've been doing.  Asking it to analyse the end result and the point of no return, and it said it's based in a shift to Authoritarian dictactorship and will be beyond reversal within 6 months. 


Grain of salt and all, but still, for something to just read it technically and output that is fucking terrifying how easily the keys are being handed over, and the potential ramifications for the world.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: fruits, nuts, + seeds:) on March 31, 2025, 05:52:41 AM
y'all, i put a hertiage foundation paper into a big computer that nukes a coral reef for every NOR function it executes and it told me to shid and piss my pants
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Jehoshaphat Augustus on March 31, 2025, 06:37:30 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/JPyjr3j/LOL.jpg)

I wish you guys could be a fly on the wall in the forever flyover state in which I reside. Cancerous cells, growing unrestricted.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: brycickle on March 31, 2025, 08:58:04 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/JPyjr3j/LOL.jpg)


Just checked the dictionary for the definition of false equivalency, and this little diatribe was there as a reference.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: brycickle on March 31, 2025, 08:59:39 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/DHb6q38zN6z/

This also felt somewhat relevant.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on March 31, 2025, 10:35:25 AM
Elon on stage in Wisconsin while trying to give money away to influence the WI Supreme Court vote while simultaneously taking jabs at George Soros for interfering with the government is some grade-A irony.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Allen. on March 31, 2025, 03:38:10 PM
This shit sucks.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Top-Heavy Hookjaw on April 01, 2025, 05:15:40 PM
My mother in law is 66 and retiring from her job this summer. She called Social Security to get an appointment and the person on the other end noticed her accent and the first question out of his mouth was “where were you born?” She replied “Jordan” he immediately told her there are no appointments. She informed him she is a citizen and has been paying into social security for 40+ years, all of a sudden there were appointments available but she would need to bring “proof” of her status in the country.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on April 01, 2025, 06:38:46 PM
I saw a photo of the police standing in front of a Tesla dealership and it reminded me of Prodhon's famous quote, "All property is theft." I can't remember his entire reasoning, but part of his rationale for was it's theft because of the amount of public money (army, police, etc.) that goes into protecting private property.

(https://d.latintimes.com/en/full/572172/tesla-chicago-police-03102025-1.jpg?w=1600&h=1600&q=88&f=0c65ad270818cac48d09b21b4dd6b829)



I don't agree with burning the cars or harassing the avg person who bought a Tesla 4 years ago, but I strongly stand with those protesting outside and making it known that Musk is a twat and TSLA shouldn't be supported. Honestly, I think it could be great for the planet if conservatives started buying TSLAs and the left leaned into another EV or hybrid. I don't think conservatives will buy Tesla, but maybe they will.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on April 01, 2025, 06:49:41 PM
I saw a photo of the police standing in front of a Tesla dealership and it reminded me of Prodhon's famous quote, "All property is theft." I can't remember his entire reasoning, but part of his rationale for was it's theft because of the amount of public money (army, police, etc.) that goes into protecting private property.

At this rate, Teslas are gonna have more rights than women and migrants.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Too Frank To Fred on April 01, 2025, 06:54:33 PM
I saw a photo of the police standing in front of a Tesla dealership and it reminded me of Prodhon's famous quote, "All property is theft." I can't remember his entire reasoning, but part of his rationale for was it's theft because of the amount of public money (army, police, etc.) that goes into protecting private property.


Proudhon was taking Communism(the Libertarian kind) to its logical conclusion when it came to land and capital, all of which was to be communally owned/ shared. It didn't necessarily apply to all personal belongings.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on April 01, 2025, 07:42:30 PM
Elon on stage in Wisconsin while trying to give money away to influence the WI Supreme Court vote while simultaneously taking jabs at George Soros for interfering with the government is some grade-A irony.

And failed. Crawford won.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on April 02, 2025, 01:20:39 AM
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Elon on stage in Wisconsin while trying to give money away to influence the WI Supreme Court vote while simultaneously taking jabs at George Soros for interfering with the government is some grade-A irony.
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And failed. Crawford won.

Finally, some good news. Glad David beat Goliath this time.

It is crazy to me that when we discuss taxes in America there is rarely a discussion of power. This man with his limitless amount of money simply has too much power. Democracy and capitalism are usually in a struggle with one another, one person with this much wealth can do insane harm to a democracy.

Also, what ever happened with the last round of lawsuits over his fake "lotteries."
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/elon-musk-1-million-lottery-class-action-fraud-lawsuit-1235154499/
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Jehoshaphat Augustus on April 02, 2025, 07:03:55 AM
Also, what ever happened with the last round of lawsuits over his fake "lotteries."
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/elon-musk-1-million-lottery-class-action-fraud-lawsuit-1235154499/

https://www.wisn.com/article/ag-kaul-appeals-to-state-supreme-court-to-stop-elon-musks-2-million-payments-to-wisconsin-voters/64330659

The most recent attempt was tossed out by a sucker ass judge, which makes yesterday's defeat so unpredictable and important for the trump opposition.  I "knew" that republicans had this fuckin supreme court election wrapped, allow me to climax for a moment:

https://youtu.be/-tQnm19ZTD0

Cory Booker broke bitchass Strom Thurmond's record for longest senate speech, while saying some of the most important things for the people rallying against trump and his supporters. I tuned in for the last 2 hours and he was spitting. The man spoke for 25 hours straight. I can't imagine what my arm pits would look like from the immense sweat marinade.

Most importantly, the richest man in the world came to Wisconsin (for the first time) so he could buy a supreme court and he took an amazing L. The absolute loser clown stooge judge who supports an 1849 abortion ban (read: prefers allowing women to die from sepsis rather than provide the option to get an abortion/save their life) supported by the richest man in the world, was sent packing as well. Tesla  will be  (https://fortune.com/2025/03/20/ross-gerber-elon-musk-ceo-tesla-step-down-share-price/) asking Musk to step down in his role, as they should.

https://youtu.be/_hOzSIdJHOw

This is a huge blow against the threat of AI, this is a huge blow against people who want to redistrict WI to ensure that it stays a Red state, this is a huge blow against those who seek to use poorer people as currency. You may not be from wisconsin, but this fucks up moneyworshippers' days, so I consider it a W for US.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: JANUS on April 02, 2025, 10:46:43 AM
Imagine paying to look like this:
(https://e3.365dm.com/25/02/768x432/skynews-washington-elon-musk_6827946.jpg?20250213175145)
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Sedition on April 02, 2025, 01:47:18 PM
A skater friend is a professor at a local law school. He teaches (and practices), in Landlord / Tenant law. The school has grants with HUD and the VA.

With HUD, they do test cases where housing discrimination is alleged (e.g. send in fake applicants). That program is now gone. HUD has also dropped all pending litigation regarding housing discrimination.

With the VA, the school does legal work to help •homeless veterans• with various services and housing. That program is, also, now toast.

HOMELESS VETERANS.

America. 2025.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: augustmoon on April 02, 2025, 03:27:38 PM
America getting the full venture capital treatment.

They’re “busting the joint out”

https://youtu.be/ZPtjyqgZAUk?si=t6OdwmoYLwqB0DJf
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: noxiousPond on April 02, 2025, 05:15:58 PM
A skater friend is a professor at a local law school. He teaches (and practices), in Landlord / Tenant law. The school has grants with HUD and the VA.

With HUD, they do test cases where housing discrimination is alleged (e.g. send in fake applicants). That program is now gone. HUD has also dropped all pending litigation regarding housing discrimination.

With the VA, the school does legal work to help •homeless veterans• with various services and housing. That program is, also, now toast.

HOMELESS VETERANS.

America. 2025.

Fucking insane that there is a large group of people (maga retards) who would rather see some democrats lose over the expense of all of this. It’s literally “we’d rather see the world burn then see you guys win”

Also insane how these idiots are so clueless and swayed by propaganda bullshit.

Fuck all of these people. I also find it funny how they laugh that “those democrats are such hypocrites burning an electric car when they live their electric cars” yea and you dumb fucks hate electric cars and yet here you are with musks cock down your throat. Anything to point fingers. Pathetic
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: h00man on April 02, 2025, 05:33:48 PM
Liberation Day woohooo!!!

Tariffs here, tariffs there! Fuck the world! America baybeee!!!

Hope yall stocked up on everything! Things gonna get FUCKED
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on April 02, 2025, 09:07:08 PM
A skater friend is a professor at a local law school. He teaches (and practices), in Landlord / Tenant law. The school has grants with HUD and the VA.

With HUD, they do test cases where housing discrimination is alleged (e.g. send in fake applicants). That program is now gone. HUD has also dropped all pending litigation regarding housing discrimination.

With the VA, the school does legal work to help •homeless veterans• with various services and housing. That program is, also, now toast.

HOMELESS VETERANS.

America. 2025.

Every fucking time it is the same story.

Campaign:
"Why are we spending on [Ukraine, immigrants, international aid, etc.], we should be supporting [Americans/vets]"

Post-Election:
"lol, thanks for putting us in office. We were never going to spend money domestically to help any American. Pull yourself up by the boostraps crybaby."

I get why young people might fall for this, but anyone over the age of 28 has seen this song and dance many times already. Why do Americans keep falling for it?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: hup on April 03, 2025, 04:27:04 AM
Liberation Day woohooo!!!

Tariffs here, tariffs there! Fuck the world! America baybeee!!!

Hope yall stocked up on everything! Things gonna get FUCKED

Those Norfolk Island bastards (all 2,188 of them) have been exploiting the US for too long!

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/australias-norfolk-island-and-two-uninhabited-territories-targeted-by-us-tariffs/scme0dzxt

Don’t even know where to start on the penguins!
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Shapelessness on April 03, 2025, 09:42:38 AM
Just thought I'd share submedia's youtube. Thoughts? Theres a part 2 as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iSfMwXiUtE
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on April 03, 2025, 11:35:58 AM
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Elon on stage in Wisconsin while trying to give money away to influence the WI Supreme Court vote while simultaneously taking jabs at George Soros for interfering with the government is some grade-A irony.
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And failed. Crawford won.

He and Pillow Guy are already crying "stolen election."
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Painted Baby on April 03, 2025, 02:31:28 PM
This shit sucks.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on April 03, 2025, 02:41:02 PM
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This shit sucks.
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Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: LUGR on April 03, 2025, 02:44:07 PM
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Elon on stage in Wisconsin while trying to give money away to influence the WI Supreme Court vote while simultaneously taking jabs at George Soros for interfering with the government is some grade-A irony.
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And failed. Crawford won.
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He and Pillow Guy are already crying "stolen election."

I was actually really surprised I had not heard this claim immediately after the L. Maybe the zone is so flooded I missed it…
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on April 03, 2025, 03:26:49 PM
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Elon on stage in Wisconsin while trying to give money away to influence the WI Supreme Court vote while simultaneously taking jabs at George Soros for interfering with the government is some grade-A irony.
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And failed. Crawford won.
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He and Pillow Guy are already crying "stolen election."
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I was actually really surprised I had not heard this claim immediately after the L. Maybe the zone is so flooded I missed it…

Liberation Day news flooded it out.

But yea, as soon as Crawford won, he broke out with the "stolen election" shit.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Jehoshaphat Augustus on April 03, 2025, 04:15:34 PM
Crawford beat Schimel by the wide enough margin so these idiots will have to pay (and lose) their money to do a recount!
I hope they keep spinning them nazi tires...lil goose stepping morons that they are...
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on April 03, 2025, 04:17:31 PM
Crawford beat Schimel by the wide enough margin so these idiots will have to pay (and lose) their money to do a recount!
I hope they keep spinning them nazi tires...lil goose stepping morons that they are...

Sad thing is, they'll say that the large margin is proof that Dems cheated. And all without evidence. And MAGATs will still eat it all up.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: pugmaster on April 03, 2025, 04:53:17 PM
America getting the full venture capital treatment.

They’re “busting the joint out”

https://youtu.be/ZPtjyqgZAUk?si=t6OdwmoYLwqB0DJf

DUUUUDE!!!! This is exactly how I feel about this.

I checked my comment on the YT video and it was 2 years ago lol
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Rusty Shackleford on April 03, 2025, 05:33:27 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GndvV15XsAEM0Al.png)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GnefYbkWAAA-umx.jpg:small)

if only someone had warned me that the man is an asshole!!
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on April 03, 2025, 05:46:17 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GndvV15XsAEM0Al.png)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GnefYbkWAAA-umx.jpg:small)

if only someone had warned me that the man is an asshole!!

The "I wanted him to hurt others -- not me" crowd is in the FO phase of FAFO.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: pugmaster on April 03, 2025, 05:47:21 PM
When advancing scientific research is no longer a priority, society is FUCKED. I wish that anti-vaccine folks would no longer be eligible for any and all medical care.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on April 03, 2025, 06:06:51 PM
When advancing scientific research is no longer a priority, society is FUCKED. I wish that anti-vaccine folks would no longer be eligible for any and all medical care.

This. My wife’s a nurse and had to deal with this shit during COVID — Insane morons who are anti-vaxx but came to the hospital when they needed help, but still were still doubling down on anti-vaxx sentiments while simultaneously being dicks to the medical staff.

Like, I wish I could’ve been there to tell them to take their asses home.

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Ex Lion Tamer on April 03, 2025, 06:09:17 PM
(https://i.gyazo.com/8200c65ad88c181db9956d8412ade2a9.png)
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on April 03, 2025, 11:44:06 PM
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GndvV15XsAEM0Al.png)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GnefYbkWAAA-umx.jpg:small)

if only someone had warned me that the man is an asshole!!
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The "I wanted him to hurt others -- not me" crowd is in the FO phase of FAFO.

She is disgusting. Even after Trump called McCain a loser, refused to fly the flag at half mast, and all the other disrespect directed at her father, she choose to lick Trump's nuts.

And its not like she is avg person who actually has to worry about how she'll survive without a paycheck.  She has the luxury of wealth, which means she doesn't need to cave.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: roba on April 04, 2025, 12:41:42 AM
did she delete the second tweet? i wanted to go and make fun of her in the replies
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: h00man on April 04, 2025, 12:25:21 PM
the Nintendo Switch 2 preorder is delayed in the US cause of tariffs.

https://www.theverge.com/news/643483/nintendo-switch-2-preorders-delayed-tariffs

If the tariffs are enforced as Trump promised, I dont think anyone will be buying it. Its already overpriced for a Nintendo product IMO.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: h00man on April 04, 2025, 12:28:04 PM
When advancing scientific research is no longer a priority, society is FUCKED. I wish that anti-vaccine folks would no longer be eligible for any and all medical care.

agreed.

Though there are cases where some people are not able to get the vaccine (COVID at least), that can cause complications to their health. Very understandable, so these peeps should be exempt.

However, if you deny vaccinations because "i dId mAH ResEarCh", then fuck em.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on April 04, 2025, 12:58:14 PM
the Nintendo Switch 2 preorder is delayed in the US cause of tariffs.

https://www.theverge.com/news/643483/nintendo-switch-2-preorders-delayed-tariffs

If the tariffs are enforced as Trump promised, I dont think anyone will be buying it. Its already overpriced for a Nintendo product IMO.

LOL. Games will be $100/pop.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: WashingtonNECKTIE on April 04, 2025, 03:49:28 PM
You will have nothing and you will like it
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Painted Baby on April 04, 2025, 03:58:30 PM
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the Nintendo Switch 2 preorder is delayed in the US cause of tariffs.

https://www.theverge.com/news/643483/nintendo-switch-2-preorders-delayed-tariffs

If the tariffs are enforced as Trump promised, I dont think anyone will be buying it. Its already overpriced for a Nintendo product IMO.
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LOL. Games will be $100/pop.
Is it maybe time to change the retail price to reflect direct to consumer digital sales and send GameStop off to that big dustbin in the sky? The could keep them at $70 or less that way pretty easily.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on April 05, 2025, 02:34:51 AM
While trying to keep some consistency in my thinking--like, most people on the left I was anti-globalization in the 90s and 00s and I was also anti-making boards in Mexico/China--I'm trying to understand why I don't like the tariffs. I proudly wore my made in an American union shop Bernie T-shirt in 2015/16, but why am I so ferociously annoyed with these tariffs?

An obvious reason might be age. Now that I'm finally getting my footing in this stupid post 1980s economy, I don't want to deal with a dramatic change. It puts me at risk for job loss as the EU is an important customer for my company and they might respond harshly towards my employer in particular. After being poor for so long, I don't want to pay (a lot) more for absolutely everything. I've been saving to buy shit that would furnish a home and now that shit is out of reach again. And, we just went through a period of inflation, I'm not ready for another round. Being a millennial is exhausting.

On a continued personal note, I lived in rural America/Canada for 7 years. The hatred and vitriol of the locals was draining. Their inability to appreciate the financial sacrifices urban people make for them, inability to appreciate the knowledge generated in schools/university, and continual desire to touch the stove was annoying. And, the rural people were either retirees who aren't going to work a factory job or they were people my age who were doing drugs or had never attempted to come up. Life is hard out there, but those who I lived next to actively made it worse. My romanticization of workers was met with a harsh reality.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cdqQ2BdgOA

On a less personal note, I don't trust this will be good for workers because of Trump's and the GOP's past. Trump is anti-union, Trump is anti-any and all worker protections, Trump has a habit of fucking over his contractors, and I feel the right has rebelled against "global free-trade" in recent years, but still want to race to the bottom within the USA forcing low wages, job insecurity, and even child labor into the mix. It is hard to believe they want what is best for anyone but the ultra-wealthy.  This would be a complete about-face for a party who championed fucking workers for my entire life. It is hard to believe that they would do anything other than continue to fuck us.


So what is Trump's case for the tariffs? Why is Trump so willing to put the stock market, jobs, and quality of life at risk for so many?

Why Trump won't give a shit about pain or turmoil
Starting with the second question, which is easier to answer, I believe that he is embracing the idea that this will cause pain but it will be better because he likes Milei who is fighting inflation in Argentina. Milei's fight is increasing poverty of the people there and causing lots of pain, but inflation is coming down. It is no accident that Milei was on stage with Musk for the chainsaw show. Musk was inspired by and re-created Milei's chainsaw image. (Funny enough Milei is doing everything he can to get zero tariff trade with the USA.)

(https://i.ibb.co/WNW8Ccc2/Screenshot-2025-04-04-at-11-39-55-PM.png)

Why does Trump like tariffs?
What Trump and friends say: 1) they are there to increase revenue to off-set his tax cuts for the wealthy. 2) they are there to increase production in America, which would eliminate the tax revenue generation in claim 1. 3) his supporters say it is just negotiations or a way to wield power over those he doesn't like, but also negates the tax revenue claim and the produce in America claim.

None of these make sense next to each other as they contradict one another, so let's pretend this is about increasing production in America.

How, so how can we make the case for Trump in terms of tariffs being good for America
Pre-1930s America (where Trump is looking in terms of his stupid MAGA nonsense)
To the dismay of Democrats (the party of Southern agriculture who didn't want reciprocal tariffs on their goods), Republicans (the party of Northern industry) used tariffs to create space for the American industrial economy to grow. Tariffs at the time are higher than our peers and was one of the taxes we used to pay the bills instead of an income tax:
"The developing world, relied on 12 to 16 to 18 percent tariff walls, the United States’ tariffs ranged from 30 percent to 40 percent."

For developing countries tariffs--when done properly--can protect a domestic industry as it develops expertise, efficiency, and so on. This is called "import substitution" and its what Brazil, India, and other places did when trying to develop a few industries when trying to come up in the global economy.

In 1930, America's chemical industries, heavy manufacturing, and financial industries are ready to take on the world and we reduce tariffs.

Skipping forward to the 70s
Manufacturing jobs start to get hammered by technology, moving to right-to-work non-union states, and then off-shore. Obviously, this hollows out rural America in the north and midwest. Manufacturing moves to the sunbelt and overseas where wages and job protections are less. Today a Ford technician makes about 72K a year and a Honda technician makes 52K because Honda doesn't use union labor.

From the early 80s forward, we enter into the world of free trade + government austerity towards citizens. Reagan/Thatcher fucked workers as hard as they possibly could. Enter the age where unions and government are the problem not the solution. Clinton's "New Democrats" weren't much better. Remember, to the dismay of Democrats, Clinton worked with Gingrich to fuck over the welfare system, campaigned as pro-death penalty, and fired nearly 400K federal workers in his time in office.

In the 90s we fully leave our manufacturing economy and enter into a service/knowledge economy that is split between low wage WalMart jobs and high paying jobs like a lawyer to software engineer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVScA-l5TX8

This is the dominant mantra until 2016 when 4chan conservatives really start to have a voice via Trump and his pack of idiots. The right starts to adopt the idea global free-trade is bad, but libertarian no holds barred anti-immigrant race to the bottom capitalism within nation-states will solve all of our problems and produce prosperity for all.

Trump 1.0. We tariff China.
Predictably this does nothing but fuck over those Americans selling to China and those of us who now have to foot the bill for Trump's subsidies to farmers, because manufacturers just switch to Vietnam and a whole host of other low wage countries. Tariffs need to be done on products to protect an industry not countries.

The tariffs might have protected some steel jobs, but we lose manufacturing jobs in the industries that rely on steel to produce goods. And, I'm not even sure it protected any steel jobs. The CPA a lobbying firm Trump is leaning on to justify his tariffs show that among 4 big steel firms, job actually declined post-tariffs : 86K to 83K jobs in steel. "The tariffs are actually helping [businesses] make the transition to newer, cleaner, lower-cost technology. This is bad news for workers at the older facilities [but good for industry]"
(https://i.ibb.co/Wv4GXSS9/Screenshot-2025-04-05-at-12-58-11-AM.png)


Trump 2.0. We tariff everyone on everything.

Well at least we learned that tariffing just China wasn't going to work. It is still clumsy, but there is some growth in thought here.

(https://i.ibb.co/7d2L0qW4/Screenshot-2025-04-05-at-12-24-25-AM.png)
image stolen from Jacobian

We still have a few problems though:
Just like last time, not all things being imported are consumer goods. The majority of shit from Mexico isn't a final consumer good. Instead, they are inputs for products that will be turned into consumer goods. This fucks over the companies relying on those inputs. And, unless Americans start aligning their diets with the seasons, where else are we going to get avocados in February?

Also, financial capital can still flow across the world. Any good investor wants to make money, they don't give a fuck how they make money. Nothing says investing in a factory to produce t-shirts in America is where the best investment returns will come from. It still might be smarter for someone to invest in a Thai factory to produce shit to sell to the EU, Africa, and Asia.

How will this turn out?
In terms of number of jobs:
I have little faith this will increase job opportunities. I expect the opposite. The tariffs in Trump 1.0 didn't seem to increase the number of jobs. Inflation of input cost will cause some companies to go out of business and new technology will reduce need for more workers and result in layoffs for those who hung on with outdated machinery.

In terms of salaries:
I'm not sure this will result in amazing salaries. There will be a few heavy machining jobs that pay awesome wages, but I don't expect Hanes to start paying American Apparel wages to workers. Even if we got a lot of manufacturing back, a lot of it is going to pay shit wages. I don't imagine working at the Tyson chicken slaughter house becomes a good job without another Jungle and a left leaning administration that wants to protect workers. And, we won't have the talent needed for a lot of these jobs.


What is missing
For the tariffs to actually help workers, firms need to re-invest instead of business as usual shareholder value, stock buy backs, and so on. We need to require firms to do this, but instead, we are going to engage in typical fascist capitalism, government intervenes in the market, but let's the capitalists retain their profits.

We need job training for workers. We need protections for workers. We need environmental protections for our water and air. I don't want factories coming back just to make a bunch of cancer allies.


So, why am I against these, but would probably support Bernie doing something similar?
If Bernie would do something similar, I think it would be completely different. It would come with things that immediately help workers and don't immediately fuck consumers. I think Bernie would attempt to reduce any sort of transitional pain. Not tell everyone, "eat a dick" and then go golfing spending millions of tax payer money on his own properties.

And, I think Bernie would do it with honesty, which the Trump admin is not doing.

I don't think he'd do blanket tariffs on all products. I think he'd work to figure out, which high value products should be produced here and which low value products can be produced elsewhere.

So, I am and the rest of the left a bunch of hypocrites? Am I the liberal Phil Ochs sang about?
To some degree, sure. But, like those on the right, our interpretation changes based not just the goal, but how its done, the motivation to get it done, and the history/context surrounding the actor that all affect perception.

Pretending the goal here is to get Americans jobs that pay decent wages, this is something the right has resisted (and would likely still resist) today if done in a different fashion. There is a willingness to crash the economy, pay higher prices, and induce suffering for blue collar jobs, but when it comes to supporting low level service workers, the right complained everything would cost too much if everyone got a living wage. They complained that it would ruin the economy and things would cost too much. The assumed sacrifice is probably less than the one we are facing now, but they are willing to make us all suffer so rural people can have living wages in fantasy factories. And maybe the fact that city people and educated people will suffer is part of the appeal.

I feel this is a lot like this is like Brexit and Grexit. Brexit had the support of the right and Grexit had the support of the left. The same exit, but with different motivations and likely different ways of completing the same action.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: pugmaster on April 05, 2025, 03:27:29 PM
Found an FDT 15-minute chorus edit for those of you who want to drive around protests blasting music.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAaT291Enlc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAaT291Enlc)
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Top-Heavy Hookjaw on April 05, 2025, 11:40:03 PM
Crazy to see a pro Trump/Musk rally break out at my local Tesla dealer. Doughy inbreds waving Trump flags in the parking lot.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: LUGR on April 06, 2025, 09:18:45 AM
Funny how them diesel drivers love them electric Teslers now.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Rusty Shackleford on April 06, 2025, 10:42:24 AM
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posted en route to yet another golf outing.
Translation: the "weak" deserve no sympathy, no assistance, no hope.  We the "strong" have our boot on their throat which is the way things ought to be.  Who are the "weak" by the way?  Working people watching their savings go down the drain?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on April 06, 2025, 01:19:45 PM
I've been thinking about the tariffs and trying to think what should this look like? What are legit motivations for it occur?

How would someone who isn't dumb and mean end the Reagan economy? And, why are we letting the some of the dumbest people on the planet--own the end of this era that was so hard on so many people and blocked so many Millennials  from a basic form of the "American Dream"?

Motivation for on-shoring:
-Human rights abuses in contemporary manufacturing
-Environmental abuse in contemporary manufacturing
-Support for American workers/offer the Rust Belt some new life. Although, with increases in productivity/technology much of the Rust Belt wouldn't really benefit.
-Moving away from a service/knowledge economy. Although, someone could make the case, service jobs just need to pay more. If these jobs offered better wages we wouldn't be clamoring over this 1950s economic model.

Process:
-Targeted tariffs on products we want to produce instead of tariffs on countries
-Timeline to return - allow companies to prepare
-Rule based - No opportunity patronage/no companies can profess loyalty to president/party for favorable terms (the corruption surrounding exemptions is going to be insane)
-Increase social security to offset the obvious losses in the market/people's 401Ks
-Subsidize some necessities to help people weather the economic storm this is going to bring, especially after we all weathered the post-pandemic inflation
-Smart review/consolidation of environmental regulations
-Smart review/consolidation of all the lawsuits someone can bring to block development (think California's high speed rail)
-Strong protections for workers (we aren't bringing manufacturing back to America to have American sweatshops again)
-Injection of money into community colleges to make three-year hybrid trade-liberal arts degrees
-Strong support for workers rights, safety, and so on
-Push against "right to work" laws
-Offering incentives and blockers to make sure companies reinvest in their workers instead of continuing to fuck workers for the sake of shareholders
-Force all companies over x number of employees to give workers at seat at the executive table.
-Tax wealth dramatically to bring a balance of power back to workers. We can't have a world where the avg worker makes 1.7 million over a lifetime and someone like Musk is worth 386 billion right now. His current wealth is = to 227,529 average -American lifetime earnings. 
-Overturn citizens united
-Don't police speech, but adjust algorithms to prevent rage bait from continually surfacing to the top.
-Protect service workers as well.
-Don't think on-shoring will solve all problems.
-There needs to be the development of new walkable urban environments that are affordable for people in their late 20s early 40s. Any on-shoring wants need to take account of this extreme need and should have been solved 30 years ago.
-Government housing either for rent or for sale should be done at breakneck speed and should be lottery/age related. Any millennial that wanted to started to a family is hitting the end of that reproductive window and the expectation that we were going to have live like my grandma's Italian family in NYC where there were 10 kids and two adults living in a 2 bedroom apartment is fucking absurd. She grew up in the great depression, we live in the richest country on the planet.


The more I think about this, the more I feel it is a Brexit/Grexit issue. There is a liberal case to be made and a liberal way of moving past Reagan's economy that grew inequality and fucked over so many people born after 1975. We are just doing it Brexit style which is going to fucking suck for everyone, but the ultra wealthy who will use the chaos to consolidate their power further.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: ungzilla on April 06, 2025, 01:32:16 PM
re your prior tariff post, one of bernie's chief economic advisors was stephanie kelton. she is one of the leading proponents of modern monetary theory which is very flexible in regards to deficit spending in order to do socially useful things like maintaining full employment. given that framework i think it's safe to assume that a program of more protectionist policies could be done in a way that was a benefit to the working class rather than this total clusterfuck. her book "the deficit myth" is really a really good intro to mmt btw.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on April 06, 2025, 01:41:04 PM
My mom told me if I voted for Kamala that gas prices would go up, groceries would sky rocket, and we’d go into a recession — bascially life would get more expensive.

So today, I went to her and told her I know when to admit when I’m wrong. I told her I voted for Kamala and now groceries and goods are getting expensive because of tariffs, gas is almost $5/gallon here in SoCal, the Stock Market is crashing, and we’re headed towards a recession.

She wasn’t amused.

Guess some people just don’t know how to accept an apology.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Knox Harrington on April 06, 2025, 03:55:20 PM
While trying to keep some consistency in my thinking--like, most people on the left I was anti-globalization in the 90s and 00s and I was also anti-making boards in Mexico/China--I'm trying to understand why I don't like the tariffs. I proudly wore my made in an American union shop Bernie T-shirt in 2015/16, but why am I so ferociously annoyed with these tariffs?

An obvious reason might be age. Now that I'm finally getting my footing in this stupid post 1980s economy, I don't want to deal with a dramatic change. It puts me at risk for job loss as the EU is an important customer for my company and they might respond harshly towards my employer in particular. After being poor for so long, I don't want to pay (a lot) more for absolutely everything. I've been saving to buy shit that would furnish a home and now that shit is out of reach again. And, we just went through a period of inflation, I'm not ready for another round. Being a millennial is exhausting.

On a continued personal note, I lived in rural America/Canada for 7 years. The hatred and vitriol of the locals was draining. Their inability to appreciate the financial sacrifices urban people make for them, inability to appreciate the knowledge generated in schools/university, and continual desire to touch the stove was annoying. And, the rural people were either retirees who aren't going to work a factory job or they were people my age who were doing drugs or had never attempted to come up. Life is hard out there, but those who I lived next to actively made it worse. My romanticization of workers was met with a harsh reality.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cdqQ2BdgOA

On a less personal note, I don't trust this will be good for workers because of Trump's and the GOP's past. Trump is anti-union, Trump is anti-any and all worker protections, Trump has a habit of fucking over his contractors, and I feel the right has rebelled against "global free-trade" in recent years, but still want to race to the bottom within the USA forcing low wages, job insecurity, and even child labor into the mix. It is hard to believe they want what is best for anyone but the ultra-wealthy.  This would be a complete about-face for a party who championed fucking workers for my entire life. It is hard to believe that they would do anything other than continue to fuck us.


So what is Trump's case for the tariffs? Why is Trump so willing to put the stock market, jobs, and quality of life at risk for so many?

Why Trump won't give a shit about pain or turmoil
Starting with the second question, which is easier to answer, I believe that he is embracing the idea that this will cause pain but it will be better because he likes Milei who is fighting inflation in Argentina. Milei's fight is increasing poverty of the people there and causing lots of pain, but inflation is coming down. It is no accident that Milei was on stage with Musk for the chainsaw show. Musk was inspired by and re-created Milei's chainsaw image. (Funny enough Milei is doing everything he can to get zero tariff trade with the USA.)

(https://i.ibb.co/WNW8Ccc2/Screenshot-2025-04-04-at-11-39-55-PM.png)

Why does Trump like tariffs?
What Trump and friends say: 1) they are there to increase revenue to off-set his tax cuts for the wealthy. 2) they are there to increase production in America, which would eliminate the tax revenue generation in claim 1. 3) his supporters say it is just negotiations or a way to wield power over those he doesn't like, but also negates the tax revenue claim and the produce in America claim.

None of these make sense next to each other as they contradict one another, so let's pretend this is about increasing production in America.

How, so how can we make the case for Trump in terms of tariffs being good for America
Pre-1930s America (where Trump is looking in terms of his stupid MAGA nonsense)
To the dismay of Democrats (the party of Southern agriculture who didn't want reciprocal tariffs on their goods), Republicans (the party of Northern industry) used tariffs to create space for the American industrial economy to grow. Tariffs at the time are higher than our peers and was one of the taxes we used to pay the bills instead of an income tax:
"The developing world, relied on 12 to 16 to 18 percent tariff walls, the United States’ tariffs ranged from 30 percent to 40 percent."

For developing countries tariffs--when done properly--can protect a domestic industry as it develops expertise, efficiency, and so on. This is called "import substitution" and its what Brazil, India, and other places did when trying to develop a few industries when trying to come up in the global economy.

In 1930, America's chemical industries, heavy manufacturing, and financial industries are ready to take on the world and we reduce tariffs.

Skipping forward to the 70s
Manufacturing jobs start to get hammered by technology, moving to right-to-work non-union states, and then off-shore. Obviously, this hollows out rural America in the north and midwest. Manufacturing moves to the sunbelt and overseas where wages and job protections are less. Today a Ford technician makes about 72K a year and a Honda technician makes 52K because Honda doesn't use union labor.

From the early 80s forward, we enter into the world of free trade + government austerity towards citizens. Reagan/Thatcher fucked workers as hard as they possibly could. Enter the age where unions and government are the problem not the solution. Clinton's "New Democrats" weren't much better. Remember, to the dismay of Democrats, Clinton worked with Gingrich to fuck over the welfare system, campaigned as pro-death penalty, and fired nearly 400K federal workers in his time in office.

In the 90s we fully leave our manufacturing economy and enter into a service/knowledge economy that is split between low wage WalMart jobs and high paying jobs like a lawyer to software engineer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVScA-l5TX8

This is the dominant mantra until 2016 when 4chan conservatives really start to have a voice via Trump and his pack of idiots. The right starts to adopt the idea global free-trade is bad, but libertarian no holds barred anti-immigrant race to the bottom capitalism within nation-states will solve all of our problems and produce prosperity for all.

Trump 1.0. We tariff China.
Predictably this does nothing but fuck over those Americans selling to China and those of us who now have to foot the bill for Trump's subsidies to farmers, because manufacturers just switch to Vietnam and a whole host of other low wage countries. Tariffs need to be done on products to protect an industry not countries.

The tariffs might have protected some steel jobs, but we lose manufacturing jobs in the industries that rely on steel to produce goods. And, I'm not even sure it protected any steel jobs. The CPA a lobbying firm Trump is leaning on to justify his tariffs show that among 4 big steel firms, job actually declined post-tariffs : 86K to 83K jobs in steel. "The tariffs are actually helping [businesses] make the transition to newer, cleaner, lower-cost technology. This is bad news for workers at the older facilities [but good for industry]"
(https://i.ibb.co/Wv4GXSS9/Screenshot-2025-04-05-at-12-58-11-AM.png)


Trump 2.0. We tariff everyone on everything.

Well at least we learned that tariffing just China wasn't going to work. It is still clumsy, but there is some growth in thought here.

(https://i.ibb.co/7d2L0qW4/Screenshot-2025-04-05-at-12-24-25-AM.png)
image stolen from Jacobian

We still have a few problems though:
Just like last time, not all things being imported are consumer goods. The majority of shit from Mexico isn't a final consumer good. Instead, they are inputs for products that will be turned into consumer goods. This fucks over the companies relying on those inputs. And, unless Americans start aligning their diets with the seasons, where else are we going to get avocados in February?

Also, financial capital can still flow across the world. Any good investor wants to make money, they don't give a fuck how they make money. Nothing says investing in a factory to produce t-shirts in America is where the best investment returns will come from. It still might be smarter for someone to invest in a Thai factory to produce shit to sell to the EU, Africa, and Asia.

How will this turn out?
In terms of number of jobs:
I have little faith this will increase job opportunities. I expect the opposite. The tariffs in Trump 1.0 didn't seem to increase the number of jobs. Inflation of input cost will cause some companies to go out of business and new technology will reduce need for more workers and result in layoffs for those who hung on with outdated machinery.

In terms of salaries:
I'm not sure this will result in amazing salaries. There will be a few heavy machining jobs that pay awesome wages, but I don't expect Hanes to start paying American Apparel wages to workers. Even if we got a lot of manufacturing back, a lot of it is going to pay shit wages. I don't imagine working at the Tyson chicken slaughter house becomes a good job without another Jungle and a left leaning administration that wants to protect workers. And, we won't have the talent needed for a lot of these jobs.


What is missing
For the tariffs to actually help workers, firms need to re-invest instead of business as usual shareholder value, stock buy backs, and so on. We need to require firms to do this, but instead, we are going to engage in typical fascist capitalism, government intervenes in the market, but let's the capitalists retain their profits.

We need job training for workers. We need protections for workers. We need environmental protections for our water and air. I don't want factories coming back just to make a bunch of cancer allies.


So, why am I against these, but would probably support Bernie doing something similar?
If Bernie would do something similar, I think it would be completely different. It would come with things that immediately help workers and don't immediately fuck consumers. I think Bernie would attempt to reduce any sort of transitional pain. Not tell everyone, "eat a dick" and then go golfing spending millions of tax payer money on his own properties.

And, I think Bernie would do it with honesty, which the Trump admin is not doing.

I don't think he'd do blanket tariffs on all products. I think he'd work to figure out, which high value products should be produced here and which low value products can be produced elsewhere.

So, I am and the rest of the left a bunch of hypocrites? Am I the liberal Phil Ochs sang about?
To some degree, sure. But, like those on the right, our interpretation changes based not just the goal, but how its done, the motivation to get it done, and the history/context surrounding the actor that all affect perception.

Pretending the goal here is to get Americans jobs that pay decent wages, this is something the right has resisted (and would likely still resist) today if done in a different fashion. There is a willingness to crash the economy, pay higher prices, and induce suffering for blue collar jobs, but when it comes to supporting low level service workers, the right complained everything would cost too much if everyone got a living wage. They complained that it would ruin the economy and things would cost too much. The assumed sacrifice is probably less than the one we are facing now, but they are willing to make us all suffer so rural people can have living wages in fantasy factories. And maybe the fact that city people and educated people will suffer is part of the appeal.

I feel this is a lot like this is like Brexit and Grexit. Brexit had the support of the right and Grexit had the support of the left. The same exit, but with different motivations and likely different ways of completing the same action.
Poverty (at least in stats) and inflation have fallen under Milei. Milei is about as free market as you can get, which is why it's strange for the Trump administration to both admire him and lay out tariffs which is more consistent with Peronism, which Milei is the opponent of.

In other words, it's only consistent with Milei's ideology if they succeed in pressuring countries to drop their tariffs against the US to the point of lowering the cumulative tariff rate overall.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Too Frank To Fred on April 06, 2025, 04:56:41 PM
My mom told me if I voted for Kamala that gas prices would go up, groceries would sky rocket, and we’d go into a recession — bascially life would get more expensive.

So today, I went to her and told her I know when to admit when I’m wrong. I told her I voted for Kamala and now groceries and goods are getting expensive because of tariffs, gas is almost $5/gallon here in SoCal, the Stock Market is crashing, and we’re headed towards a recession.

She wasn’t amused.

Guess some people just don’t know how to accept an apology.

I'm amused. Hope things work out between you and your mum.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: WashingtonNECKTIE on April 06, 2025, 06:06:56 PM
My main gripe with tariffs is how the hell is US supposed to transition to manufacturing economy with no industrial backbone and an obvious limit on how many and which natural goods the country can produce?

Also, there seems to be a history with nations becoming very industrious and subsequently becoming war-time economies….
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: noxiousPond on April 06, 2025, 06:52:17 PM
My mom told me if I voted for Kamala that gas prices would go up, groceries would sky rocket, and we’d go into a recession — bascially life would get more expensive.

So today, I went to her and told her I know when to admit when I’m wrong. I told her I voted for Kamala and now groceries and goods are getting expensive because of tariffs, gas is almost $5/gallon here in SoCal, the Stock Market is crashing, and we’re headed towards a recession.

She wasn’t amused.

Guess some people just don’t know how to accept an apology.

That was quite the solid burn.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on April 06, 2025, 07:09:39 PM
Copy pasta from WSJ

*The First Victim of Trump’s Trade War: Michigan’s Economy

Auto industry, which supports one in 10 jobs in the state, shifts into battle mode to stem tariffs’ worst effects, even as many locals hope the cost will be worth it in the end

DETROIT—If President Trump’s trade war has a physical battleground, it is Michigan, where companies and workers are already feeling the beginning of an onslaught that could blow a hole in the state’s economy.
Nearly 20% of the economy is tied to the auto industry, which has become increasingly dependent on parts and vehicles from Canada, Mexico and China—imports Trump hit with steep tariffs in recent weeks. This trade has grown so large that Michigan ranks fifth in the nation by the size of its imports and exports, even though its total economy ranks 14th.
Detroit’s automotive executives have shifted into battle mode. They are stockpiling imported components, wrestling with suppliers over price increases and setting up war rooms to figure out how to cut costs.
Workers at the state’s biggest auto factories are tightening their belts, too, in case tariffs spark layoffs by causing a spike in vehicle prices and a drop in demand. Some early moves have added to their jitters. Hours after the latest tariffs took effect last week, Jeep parent Stellantis temporarily laid off about 900 workers in Michigan and Indiana who supply parts to factories in Canada and Mexico that the company idled at the same time.
One auto executive early last week darkly predicted “Chernobyl” if tariffs broadly hit imported parts, which they’re scheduled to do next month. Industry executives and analysts later said what the administration outlined Wednesday was worse than they expected.
Some prominent voices, including the Detroit-based United Auto Workers union, say the upset will be worth it in the long run if tariffs do what Trump has pledged: expand U.S. manufacturing and unwind the offshoring of jobs that decimated many communities in Michigan and beyond.
For now, levies on steel and aluminum imports and on goods from China that took effect in March are starting to bite Michigan manufacturers. Additional tariffs on auto imports and other goods have also begun to pinch in recent days.
Hitting the phones
On the outskirts of Detroit, auto-parts manufacturer Luxit was scrambling to deal with the extra 20% in tariffs Trump imposed on Chinese imports when it learned the president was raising the tariffs to 54%.
The added cost is prompting Luxit, which relies on Chinese imports to make some vehicle lighting and other components, to begin reshoring one production line from China to a Luxit factory in Tennessee, and to consider moving other production to Michigan, chief executive Stephane Vedie said. The line moving to Tennessee employs eight people in China but will employ only two in Tennessee because the equipment will be more automated, he said. A production transfer to Michigan would create about 10 jobs.
Meanwhile, Vedie and his colleagues are hitting the phones to convince Luxit’s automaker customers to pay more. 
That, too, has a cost. “The time I am speaking to convince our customers to accept the price increases, I’m not speaking with them about new business, about growth,” Vedie said.
Mary Buchzeiger, CEO of Lucerne International, another local auto supplier, is also talking with customers about her need to raise prices because of the new China tariffs. About 80% of the automotive hinges, brackets and other components Lucerne sells are made in China.
“There is no way we can absorb these tariffs. I don’t have 20% margin to give,” said Buchzeiger, who owns the company, which employs 25 people. 
The new 25% tariff on imported aluminum is also scrambling her efforts to build a new factory in the U.S. to forge metal into pistons and other parts. She is trying to land outside funding for the project, and is close to picking a Midwestern site for the plant—ideally in Michigan. But the tariffs are delaying talks because no one is certain about the auto industry’s future, she said.
Some forecasts for the industry are dire. Anderson Economic Group, a Michigan consulting firm, estimates the tariffs will add $2,500 to $12,000 to the price of many new cars, and up to $20,000 for luxury imports. That will push new vehicles further beyond the reach of consumers already struggling with average prices of roughly $48,000.
“This is going to have a dramatic negative effect on car sales in the United States…and there will be production shutdowns,” said Patrick Anderson, the firm’s CEO. “The epicenter for job losses due to these tariffs is somewhere between Detroit, Michigan, and Windsor, Canada.”
Two big automakers—Ford and Stellantis—said they would offer discounts on vehicles through the end of April.
Gabriel Ehrlich, a University of Michigan economist, forecasts the new steel and aluminum tariffs alone will cost Michigan 600 auto manufacturing jobs by the end of next year, and an additional 1,700 jobs in industries that serve auto workers. The auto tariffs will have an even bigger impact, he said.
It’s not just manufacturing jobs at stake. The auto industry provides some of Michigan’s most lucrative white-collar design and engineering jobs and helps finance research programs at state universities. Every position in an auto factory also supports three additional jobs in the state that depend on auto workers eating out, shopping for clothing or buying a house, Ehrlich said.
Tariffs also pose a threat to Michigan’s agricultural sector, which ranks among the top in the U.S. in the production of tart cherries, asparagus, and squash, and the state’s nascent tech industry, centered on the production of drones and other battery-powered vehicles. 
An industry town
At a sandwich shop on the north side of Detroit, owner Leona Milton said she isn’t sure how tariffs will affect her, but she knows her business relies on a healthy auto industry. 
Milton got her start delivering lunch to auto workers during Covid, driving up to factory gates with a cooler full of sandwiches. That helped her save up to open her shop, What’s the Dill, three years ago, where many of those same workers formed her customer base.
“It will affect us if the auto industry loses positions,” Milton said as she wrapped up a recent lunch shift. “People will lose their ability to shop with us…. They’ll have to use their money for bills or groceries instead.”
But many Michiganders, upset by the factory shutdowns of the free-trade era, are choosing to focus on the long term. Mira Zeigler-Moore, 54, a longtime Stellantis worker in Detroit, said she is no Trump fan, but she hopes his 25% auto tariffs are a first step toward increasing automotive production in the U.S.
Kelly Nering, a finance professional whose father worked at Ford, said she thinks tariffs will cause uncomfortable price increases in the short term but will be worth it in the end.*

Yeah, for the shareholders. Definitely not any employees/laid off employees though.

@TastyBurrito I respect you for that. That definitely took some balls.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: fruits, nuts, + seeds:) on April 07, 2025, 05:45:33 AM
My main gripe with tariffs is how the hell is US supposed to transition to manufacturing economy with no industrial backbone and an obvious limit on how many and which natural goods the country can produce?

Also, there seems to be a history with nations becoming very industrious and subsequently becoming war-time economies….

it cant

My mom told me if I voted for Kamala that gas prices would go up, groceries would sky rocket, and we’d go into a recession — bascially life would get more expensive.

So today, I went to her and told her I know when to admit when I’m wrong. I told her I voted for Kamala and now groceries and goods are getting expensive because of tariffs, gas is almost $5/gallon here in SoCal, the Stock Market is crashing, and we’re headed towards a recession.

She wasn’t amused.

Guess some people just don’t know how to accept an apology.

(https://static1.srcdn.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/buster-bluth-army.jpg)
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Top-Heavy Hookjaw on April 07, 2025, 09:59:14 AM
I finally understand how politics can be so divisive and end friendships and cause rifts in a family. I have a corporate job with an import car company, I don’t make a ton of money and am by no means in the same stratosphere as a lot of my wealthy neighbors here in SoCal. These tariffs are really going to screw us because we import a lot of our cars. Mind you we’ve invested billions in US production in recent years and employ thousands of Americans. The implications of these tariffs on the bottom line for my family and my co workers families’ could have a noticeable impact on our quality of life. Knowing that one of my friends voted for this would be a deal breaker.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on April 07, 2025, 10:24:02 AM
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My mom told me if I voted for Kamala that gas prices would go up, groceries would sky rocket, and we’d go into a recession — bascially life would get more expensive.

So today, I went to her and told her I know when to admit when I’m wrong. I told her I voted for Kamala and now groceries and goods are getting expensive because of tariffs, gas is almost $5/gallon here in SoCal, the Stock Market is crashing, and we’re headed towards a recession.

She wasn’t amused.

Guess some people just don’t know how to accept an apology.
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I'm amused. Hope things work out between you and your mum.

She hates it when I talk politics to her. To her, it's harassment to let her know what Trump is doing. In her head, she doesn't want to be bothered about it. She just wants to vote for the Republican, go back to her life, then assume they're doing everything fine.

She -- like my dad -- is retired Navy, so the military mentality of "Republican Good, Liberal Bad" is kind of ingrained in her. And my dad. Like they'll vote for Trump because they can't bring themselves to vote Democrat. But they also can't bring themselves to openly praise him.

But I know she sees the rising costs of life, the VA Dept firings, as well as threats to medicaid. But she just brushes me off and focuses on playing with my son and the other grandkids.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on April 08, 2025, 09:17:22 PM
This is such an unnecessary rollercoaster.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQLvQk16Vwc
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Marion Stoked on April 09, 2025, 12:38:11 PM
Make America Great Leap Forward.


So are Edgelrds gonna be price point decks now?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on April 09, 2025, 01:03:42 PM
Was talking with my accountant after doing our taxes and my wife and I asked what his outlook on the next four years of taxes. He basically said with Trump's tax plan ending this year, he doesn't have hope that it'll be any better. Basically, he's expecting more dialing back and caps on what the middle/lower class can write off in order to offset what can save millionaires even more money in the long run.

So, yea...this is winning, right?

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on April 09, 2025, 07:14:06 PM
Yes it is winning. You’re just not pulling your bootstraps hard enough(like those who were born into wealth)! Stop being so lazy and pay more taxes for the wealthy!
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on April 09, 2025, 09:15:13 PM
I feel like we are all being scammed here. I hope no one panic sold their 401K over the past few days.

(https://i.ibb.co/QFDdjgnL/Screenshot-2025-04-09-at-9-13-28-PM.png)

Anyone who knew what was going to happen made a killing.
(https://i.ibb.co/35b5db01/Screenshot-2025-04-09-at-9-16-48-PM.png)
I can't verify this tweet, but my suspicions want to believe it is true. (It probably isn't true.)
https://bsky.app/profile/unusualwhales.bsky.social/post/3lmfm5ycbjk2x
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: WashingtonNECKTIE on April 10, 2025, 11:05:18 AM
US diving further into a meme economy

https://time.com/7276280/trump-tariffs-stock-buy-djt-tip-insider-trading-market-manipulation/

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Nom De Plume on April 10, 2025, 08:18:16 PM
I never knew it was possible for me to be smug about investing and losing money. Most the folks I know that voted Trump definitely have more money than me and are down more, plus have a bunch of kids. I'm over here like "That's what you fucking get, he said he was gonna do this you idiots!" Weird times. This shit is no doubt a long con. Meme economy is right.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on April 11, 2025, 07:03:04 PM
Got a current passport or certified birth certificate on hand? If not you might no be able to vote ever again.

https://apnews.com/article/congress-save-act-citizenship-republicans-women-0c0ba9fd8e6a01cf144736490c71df21
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on April 11, 2025, 07:10:16 PM
Got a current passport or certified birth certificate on hand? If not you might no be able to vote ever again.

https://apnews.com/article/congress-save-act-citizenship-republicans-women-0c0ba9fd8e6a01cf144736490c71df21

This is gonna be interesting as this disenfranchises women who changed their last names as well as rural communities who might not even have a passport. 
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: fruits, nuts, + seeds:) on April 12, 2025, 04:48:52 AM
I never knew it was possible for me to be smug about investing and losing money.

i did. i knew you'd find a way to be smug regardless of the circumstances.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Unkle Fleak on April 12, 2025, 07:49:04 AM
Their ai is following the old Soviet model. The us is about to try and rob Iran of their resources.

You know why this is happening? Because we’re not stopping them from robbing us
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Nom De Plume on April 12, 2025, 01:27:00 PM
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I never knew it was possible for me to be smug about investing and losing money.
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i did. i knew you'd find a way to be smug regardless of the circumstances.
Hehe.  :-*
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Big Brother on April 12, 2025, 08:03:54 PM
Aviation disasters. Not feeling it.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mr. Pickles on April 12, 2025, 08:31:13 PM
My fishing homie is from Laos. He was brought here as a kid by the US government because his dad fought for the US during all of that secret SE Asian stuff. Anyway, he’s on Federal Probation, and has to check in next month. He’s so sure that he’s about to grabbed by ICE and be deported when he goes. He has no connection to Laos. Feel awful for the guy.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: noxiousPond on April 13, 2025, 05:25:21 AM
My fishing homie is from Laos. He was brought here as a kid by the US government because his dad fought for the US during all of that secret SE Asian stuff. Anyway, he’s on Federal Probation, and has to check in next month. He’s so sure that he’s about to grabbed by ICE and be deported when he goes. He has no connection to Laos. Feel awful for the guy.

That’s horrible.

I was friends with a co worker who was born in Mexico that recently quit. Odd thing was he deleted his social media so I couldn’t hit him up. I found out his parents were here “illegally” and I remember him posting some “anti American” fuck ice shit so I hope nothing happened to his family but I think something has. Really nice kid I hope everything’s good.

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Nom De Plume on April 13, 2025, 10:14:00 AM
My fishing homie is from Laos. He was brought here as a kid by the US government because his dad fought for the US during all of that secret SE Asian stuff. Anyway, he’s on Federal Probation, and has to check in next month. He’s so sure that he’s about to grabbed by ICE and be deported when he goes. He has no connection to Laos. Feel awful for the guy.
Rooting for you and yours. This happening to anyone is terrible and losing a fishing homie is like losing a skate homie. Heavy blow.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Gnarfunkell on April 15, 2025, 12:18:20 PM
Anyone else feeling a sort of externally-caused depression due to this mess we're in? I've noticed how much it's all weighing on me and that it's making it hard to enjoy normal every day things.

I'll be losing my job next month because of him, but weirdly that's the least of my concerns right now. Witnessing the gutting of an imperfect but functioning government by soulless weirdos that have no pride, morals, or any passion for the pillars of the USA just hurts.

I know people have always been greedy and human history is fucked up, but the lack of decorum and straight up lawlessness of the executive branch is freaking me out. It's just fucked all around and I don't see how we're going to dig ourselves out of this and find some sort of "normal" again.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on April 15, 2025, 12:45:12 PM
@Gnarfunkell Sorry about the job. That fucking sucks.

Yea, the whole thing is out of control. The complete disregard for due process is scary. The willingness to make impulsively stupid decisions that will have short and long term effects is terrifying. And the insane propaganda and cult of personality is fucking terrifying.

I feel like our best hope is that the Dems sweep the House and Senate and impeach the shit out of these people. I don't think they'll do it, but it would be a way for this nightmare to end.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: WarmUpZone on April 15, 2025, 01:13:50 PM
Anyone else feeling a sort of externally-caused depression due to this mess we're in? I've noticed how much it's all weighing on me and that it's making it hard to enjoy normal every day things. ...

@Gnarfunkell I'm so sorry to hear about your job loss and difficulties. I, and any other reasonable American, struggle daily with what is happening and the feeling of powerlessness. Learning that our rights are not inalienable and checks-and-balances was not enforceable has been a tough transition, and even if things recover politically, the illusion of it all can never return. I, personally, have the most trouble with comprehending how other people can seem to be enjoying the cruelty and misfortune.

That being said, please please try to enjoy the little things in front of you. It is ok to take a break from the news and social media and just focus on some of the good things that can come with the human experience: foods you enjoy, skating, music, playing with your dog, your favorite movie... whatever it may be.

Sadly, having compassion and dignity is an act of rebellion for an American these days, so if you can express that just a little bit then you have done something to fight the horrible shift in values we are experiencing. We may not be able to end the hate, violence, emotional stupidity, bullying, and cruelty being inflicted upon us (and infecting so many), but we can make the world a little better for someone in a small way and that does make a difference.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Gnarfunkell on April 15, 2025, 01:45:02 PM
Thank y'all for the kind words and for commiserating with me. Already texted a homie and we're going to meet up after work for a bike road through the forest. Thankfully I live somewhere with lots of nature to enjoy, which always lets me experience some child-like sense of awe.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Marion Stoked on April 15, 2025, 03:33:09 PM
"home-growns are next."
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Dopethrone on April 15, 2025, 03:48:25 PM
I recently started investing when everything tanked, that has been working out so far for myself.
Every cloud and all that
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Big Brother on April 15, 2025, 09:15:14 PM
I recently started investing when everything tanked, that has been working out so far for myself.
Every cloud and all that

Not new to investing but def winning lately. If I have to deal with the orange asshole in office at least I can be rewarded with investment opportunities and profits.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on April 16, 2025, 02:15:42 PM
El Salvadorian jail won't let the US Democratic Senator talk to the kidnapped man from Maryland.

That fact that they won't let him talk to the man leads me to believe he was already killed and they and Trump's admin didn't want him back in the US to talk about the experience.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: ToySanta on April 16, 2025, 03:43:55 PM
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Got a current passport or certified birth certificate on hand? If not you might no be able to vote ever again.

https://apnews.com/article/congress-save-act-citizenship-republicans-women-0c0ba9fd8e6a01cf144736490c71df21
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This is gonna be interesting as this disenfranchises women who changed their last names as well as rural communities who might not even have a passport.

This is so bad. I can’t believe we’re gonna get fucked by a Texan named Chip Roy. Does he even know about overseas military bases? … We need some new requirements for when legislation gets proposed.
Every shithead voting for this should be required to list every location of election offices in their districts and provide all of the documents they are expecting of others.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Unkle Fleak on April 16, 2025, 06:14:00 PM
El Salvadorian jail won't let the US Democratic Senator talk to the kidnapped man from Maryland.

That fact that they won't let him talk to the man leads me to believe he was already killed and they and Trump's admin didn't want him back in the US to talk about the experience.


Same. As soon as the white house backtracked on administrative error I thought the same.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: augustmoon on April 16, 2025, 06:23:58 PM
El Salvadorian jail won't let the US Democratic Senator talk to the kidnapped man from Maryland.

That fact that they won't let him talk to the man leads me to believe he was already killed and they and Trump's admin didn't want him back in the US to talk about the experience.

Anonymous posted an aerial photo from above the prison. The resolution of the photo isn’t great, but it shows what looks like a large flesh colored blob surrounded by red stained ground.  The area is about half the size of a soccer field and flanked by 2 buildings.  Other photos show an area on the perimeter of the prison that was previously covered in trees and grass, now showing an absence of trees and a large area of freshly disturbed ground. 

I think this place is legitimately an extermination camp. And American citizens are next.  The eugenics talk is ramping up.  RFK Jr just made a statement talking about autistic people as if they are barely human. 

Protesters/dissenters/political and ideological threats will be labeled “terrorists” and disappeared.  Then will be the disabled and sick, “for the survival of our nation”.  Just mirroring 1930s right down the line, except fueled by capitalism and religious self righteousness.  We’re on a collision course. Prepare yourselves. This isn’t going to get better until it gets a lot worse

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Unkle Fleak on April 16, 2025, 08:37:48 PM
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El Salvadorian jail won't let the US Democratic Senator talk to the kidnapped man from Maryland.

That fact that they won't let him talk to the man leads me to believe he was already killed and they and Trump's admin didn't want him back in the US to talk about the experience.
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Anonymous posted an aerial photo from above the prison. The resolution of the photo isn’t great, but it shows what looks like a large flesh colored blob surrounded by red stained ground.  The area is about half the size of a soccer field and flanked by 2 buildings.  Other photos show an area on the perimeter of the prison that was previously covered in trees and grass, now showing an absence of trees and a large area of freshly disturbed ground. 

I think this place is legitimately an extermination camp. And American citizens are next.  The eugenics talk is ramping up.  RFK Jr just made a statement talking about autistic people as if they are barely human. 

Protesters/dissenters/political and ideological threats will be labeled “terrorists” and disappeared.  Then will be the disabled and sick, “for the survival of our nation”.  Just mirroring 1930s right down the line, except fueled by capitalism and religious self righteousness.  We’re on a collision course. Prepare yourselves. This isn’t going to get better until it gets a lot worse


This isn’t Eastern Europe. America is a hornets nest. They greatly underestimate the situation they are in. I been around people like this my whole life. They don’t have the muscles they thing they have. Their behavior weakens their position everyday. They will never stick the landing. They will overreach to a place even my dad wouldn’t follow if he were alive still.

I just wanna know who who’s gonna be the fall guy. Elon or Trump?

Cuz the entire staff goes for insulation by instinct every time they are cornered by the press. They’ll all be blaming each other in four years.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on April 16, 2025, 10:35:15 PM
This is a terrifying extreme in the battle between due process and "crime control" models of justice (https://www.taylorfrancis.com/chapters/edit/10.4324/9780203804483-3/crime-control-due-process-tom-ellis-mike-nash). I agree that what is occurring is wrong and we all need to worry about what scary thing happens next.

What I find particularly ironic about this is that Trump's stereotypical base (rural and White) used to beg to have prisons in their communities. Small towns and rural countries saw these as a way to create jobs for the locals and benefit their communities. Think of all the rap songs that reference going upstate or up-north as a way of saying going to jail or prison. 

But Trump's first action is to export American jobs to a cheaper Central/South American country. lol, we are fighting a trade war (possibly) to bring back masculine jobs that "pay well" and Trump's first action of business is to send those jobs out of America. If you wrote this in a movie it'd be too absurd to believe.

Note: It is debatable that the jails or prisons actually made money for the rural communities, but the lack of evidence doesn't seem to phase Trump's team of winners.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on April 16, 2025, 11:33:45 PM
This is a terrifying extreme in the battle between due process and "crime control" models of justice (https://www.taylorfrancis.com/chapters/edit/10.4324/9780203804483-3/crime-control-due-process-tom-ellis-mike-nash). I agree that what is occurring is wrong and we all need to worry about what scary thing happens next.

What I find particularly ironic about this is that Trump's stereotypical base (rural and White) used to beg to have prisons in their communities. Small towns and rural countries saw these as a way to create jobs for the locals and benefit their communities. Think of all the rap songs that reference going upstate or up-north as a way of saying going to jail or prison. 


My grandpa is from McAlester, OK and they def voted to have a prison there over a college/uni
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on April 21, 2025, 01:46:09 AM
Listened to some basic financial podcast today, one interesting thing they said was the trade imbalance creates a situation where our trading partners are sitting on a lot of USD and many of them invest those USD's back into American via buying services, stock, and bonds (which allows the USA to borrow money at low interest rates). IF we are shooting to create no trade imbalance in terms of goods, this means these countries won't have dollars to waste on services or investing in the USA. Or, in retaliation they'll say,"fuck your services, we'll do our own."

This creates four problems for most of us: 1) our country needs cheap debt otherwise paying our bills gets a lot harder. I'm not sure if the Trump admin considered this consequence. I imagine they had no idea cause they're idiots, but it is a very new and unique way of "starving the beast" (i.e. starving the US gov of money to kill off social services). 2) this means the stock gains we've seen in the neo-liberal / "classical" economic era maybe coming to an end. Millennials will feel some serious pain when it comes to our retirement investments. (I don't necessarily see a problem with this in theory, but it needs to be coupled with greater social support/safety net not less) 3) our service industries might take a hit for the sake of a variety of blue collar jobs that might pay well and might pay nothing (no one is getting paid big money to sew shoes together). 4) Americans might come to remember why manufacturing left. Partially due to the greed of American business leaders who decided to fuck over workers and partially cause manufacturing causes pollution, uses a lot of energy, can be very hard work, and can cripple the workers.

We've lived in an interesting era where the service industry has been split between low paying retail jobs and a few super high paying tech, law, and other professional jobs. The high paying service jobs are already threatened by AI and lack of foreign investing/purchasing is not going to be good for the few people who made it into these careers. I really don't know what the fucking plan is here.

The admin that loves to talk about "merit" in their rallying cry against non-white Americans and women, but they are engaging in a huge and costly endeavor to affirmative action the shit out of America for (mostly white) dudes by rewinding the clock to an era where education didn't matter. Women have kicked ass at education for years now and women are ahead when it comes to IQ (because of their investment in education) and we are going to rip up the system for the sake of the dream of returning to an era of manufacturing, which won't do shit to deal with the real problems most people under 45 face: fucking housing and childcare costs, (university costs are being dealt with by attempting to kill it). There is this belief that all blue collar jobs pay a lot, lol, no. Some blue collar jobs can offer crazy wages but plenty won't pay shit and will have serious health consequences for the workers. What the fuck are we doing here?


Finally, I'm predicting the Trump admin does 3 very Russian things in the next 4 years: 1) Sets things up for Trump to be VP in 2028 with either Vance or one of his horrible children as pres 2) continues to recreate the relationship Russia's gov has with the Orthadox Church, which seems to bless Putin's corruption (even the hyper-right sees it: https://www.heritage.org/europe/commentary/how-putin-uses-russian-orthodoxy-grow-his-empire 3) continues to steal America's wealth and sells off his power. We are following Russia's lead to guide our regression. A country that hasn't increased its population in 40 years and doesn't have a single university in the top 100 in the world. America has quite a few in the top 10, it is not surprise that Trump is attacking them to fit his ideology political talking points.
(https://i.ibb.co/M55hcLn7/mini-magick20250421-242852-zogen.webp)
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on April 26, 2025, 06:58:51 PM
Even if you’re in a red state and a maga supporter, you’re still gonna get fucked.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/24/trump-denies-aid-arkansas-tornados
FEMA?
Waste of money that can go into Drump & Skums coffers.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on April 26, 2025, 07:04:55 PM
Even if you’re in a red state and a maga supporter, you’re still gonna get fucked.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/24/trump-denies-aid-arkansas-tornados
FEMA?
Waste of money that can go into Drump & Skums coffers.

Why would red states be upset? He ran on all of this. It’s what they voted for.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: SmashtheState on April 27, 2025, 07:10:04 AM
Something I read and it speaks volumes about Trump and his lack of tact and awareness I thought you'll would find amusing.

Nate White for why the British do not like him:

“A few things spring to mind. Trump lacks certain qualities which the British traditionally esteem. For instance, he has no class, no charm, no coolness, no credibility, no compassion, no wit, no warmth, no wisdom, no subtlety, no sensitivity, no self-awareness, no humility, no honour and no grace – all qualities, funnily enough, with which his predecessor Mr. Obama was generously blessed. So for us, the stark contrast does rather throw Trump’s limitations into embarrassingly sharp relief. Plus, we like a laugh. And while Trump may be laughable, he has never once said anything wry, witty or even faintly amusing – not once, ever. I don’t say that rhetorically, I mean it quite literally: not once, not ever. And that fact is particularly disturbing to the British sensibility – for us, to lack humour is almost inhuman. But with Trump, it’s a fact. He doesn’t even seem to understand what a joke is – his idea of a joke is a crass comment, an illiterate insult, a casual act of cruelty. Trump is a troll. And like all trolls, he is never funny and he never laughs; he only crows or jeers. And scarily, he doesn’t just talk in crude, witless insults – he actually thinks in them. His mind is a simple bot-like algorithm of petty prejudices and knee-jerk nastiness. There is never any under-layer of irony, complexity, nuance or depth. It’s all surface. Some Americans might see this as refreshingly upfront. Well, we don’t. We see it as having no inner world, no soul. And in Britain we traditionally side with David, not Goliath. All our heroes are plucky underdogs: Robin Hood, Dick Whittington, Oliver Twist. Trump is neither plucky, nor an underdog. He is the exact opposite of that. He’s not even a spoiled rich-boy, or a greedy fat-cat. He’s more a fat white slug. A Jabba the Hutt of privilege. And worse, he is that most unforgivable of all things to the British: a bully. That is, except when he is among bullies; then he suddenly transforms into a snivelling sidekick instead. There are unspoken rules to this stuff – the Queensberry rules of basic decency – and he breaks them all. He punches downwards – which a gentleman should, would, could never do – and every blow he aims is below the belt. He particularly likes to kick the vulnerable or voiceless – and he kicks them when they are down. So the fact that a significant minority – perhaps a third – of Americans look at what he does, listen to what he says, and then think ‘Yeah, he seems like my kind of guy’ is a matter of some confusion and no little distress to British people, given that..

Americans are supposed to be nicer than us, and mostly are.

You don’t need a particularly keen eye for detail to spot a few flaws in the man. This last point is what especially confuses and dismays British people, and many other people too; his faults seem pretty bloody hard to miss. After all, it’s impossible to read a single tweet, or hear him speak a sentence or two, without staring deep into the abyss. He turns being artless into an art form; he is a Picasso of pettiness; a Shakespeare of shit. His faults are fractal: even his flaws have flaws, and so on ad infinitum. God knows there have always been stupid people in the world, and plenty of nasty people too. But rarely has stupidity been so nasty, or nastiness so stupid. He makes Nixon look trustworthy and George W look smart. In fact, if Frankenstein decided to make a monster assembled entirely from human flaws – he would make a Trump. And a remorseful Doctor Frankenstein would clutch out big clumpfuls of hair and scream in anguish: ‘My God… what… have… I… created?’ If being a twat was a TV show, Trump would be the boxed set.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on April 27, 2025, 09:02:43 PM
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Even if you’re in a red state and a maga supporter, you’re still gonna get fucked.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/24/trump-denies-aid-arkansas-tornados
FEMA?
Waste of money that can go into Drump & Skums coffers.
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Why would red states be upset? He ran on all of this. It’s what they voted for.

I completely agree with you on that but(rationale of maga thought incoming) it’s all fun and games when it’s happening to everyone but you.
Then it does.
 Its gonna be funny as hell when they wake up and realize this was all a distraction to grab more wealth and keep them occupied so they don’t realize a class war is impending.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on April 28, 2025, 05:09:37 PM
Hey! Have a kid and we’ll pay you less than a 1/64th of the hospital cost. 5k is enough to pay for a single hospital visit(not counting prenatal, possible ambulance ride, nor any complications, diapers, food clothes, etc, etc, etc)? Right?

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/trump-administration-5000-baby-bonus-incentivize-public-children/story?id=121094707
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: hot dabz on April 28, 2025, 05:40:13 PM
Hey! Have a kid and we’ll pay you less than a 1/64th of the hospital cost. 5k is enough to pay for a single hospital visit(not counting prenatal, possible ambulance ride, nor any complications, diapers, food clothes, etc, etc, etc)? Right?

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/trump-administration-5000-baby-bonus-incentivize-public-children/story?id=121094707
Yea man that's so fucked up he's doing that

Lmaooo

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: hot dabz on April 28, 2025, 05:42:31 PM
Imagine being mad at 5000  :o
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: botefdunn on April 28, 2025, 07:16:28 PM
Imagine being mad at 5000  :o

Nobody's mad at 5000, they're mad that anyone would be dumb/greedy enough to insult them by offering this amount as a replacement for subsidized healthcare and decent maternity leave.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on April 28, 2025, 08:35:30 PM
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Imagine being mad at 5000  :o
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Nobody's mad at 5000, they're mad that anyone would be dumb/greedy enough to insult them by offering this amount as a replacement for subsidized healthcare and decent maternity leave.

Glad to see someone paying attention.

 Let’s not mention the housing shortages, job shortages, non living wages being paid at the jobs available, lack of healthcare with those jobs, and paying for some rich fucks taxes. But yeah, let’s add more people to this and get pennies to raise them so they can get cheaper or child labor.
Woo hoo. 5k.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Painted Baby on April 28, 2025, 09:55:28 PM
Imagine being mad at 5000  :o
Oh look it's Blockwork reincarnate back to crop dust this thread with their based opinion
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: JANUS on April 29, 2025, 02:59:44 AM
All his bullshit with tariffs and threats of annexation seem to have kept the liberal party in power in Canada. That’s pretty dope, since lil’ PP looked like he had it on lock a few months ago. I really did not want to have to deal with prime minister Millhouse.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Resin on April 29, 2025, 03:51:57 AM
Imagine being mad at 5000  :o

Yeah bro totes. At that rate you might as well have ten kids and earn yourself a cool $50k
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: hot dabz on April 29, 2025, 03:58:34 AM
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Imagine being mad at 5000  :o
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Yeah bro totes. At that rate you might as well have ten kids and earn yourself a cool $50k
Big facts

Real shit that's a car for a struggling couple or diapers for a long ass time

It's a good thing
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Resin on April 29, 2025, 10:38:45 AM
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Imagine being mad at 5000  :o
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Yeah bro totes. At that rate you might as well have ten kids and earn yourself a cool $50k
[close]
Big facts

Real shit that's a car for a struggling couple or diapers for a long ass time

It's a good thing

jfc
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: DotAudball on April 29, 2025, 10:46:44 AM
I completely agree with you on that but(rationale of maga thought incoming) it’s all fun and games when it’s happening to everyone but you.
Then it does.
 Its gonna be funny as hell when they wake up and realize this was all a distraction to grab more wealth and keep them occupied so they don’t realize a class war is impending.

Gonna be honest, I've completely lost faith in the magas ever "waking up" at all. I have many a family member who voted for Trump in 2016, got directly fucked with by his policies, voted for him again, cried when Biden won, voted for Trump in 2024, are getting directly fucked with again, and will still vote for him again. Maga people are a special kind of brainwashed.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: brycickle on April 29, 2025, 10:56:38 AM
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Imagine being mad at 5000  :o
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Yeah bro totes. At that rate you might as well have ten kids and earn yourself a cool $50k
[close]
Big facts

Real shit that's a car for a struggling couple or diapers for a long ass time

It's a good thing
You are clearly someone that doesn't understand the costs associated with having one child, let alone 10.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on April 29, 2025, 07:05:58 PM
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Imagine being mad at 5000  :o
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Yeah bro totes. At that rate you might as well have ten kids and earn yourself a cool $50k
[close]
Big facts

Real shit that's a car for a struggling couple or diapers for a long ass time

It's a good thing
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You are clearly someone that doesn't understand the costs associated with having one child, let alone 10.

I think it was Jon Stewart who compared it to getting a dollar off coupon to buy a Mercedes
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Rusty Shackleford on May 04, 2025, 12:34:06 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GqDNEcoXAAAzj6R.jpg:large)

for a myriad of reasons this image is inappropriate.  but portraying HIM as a holy man has got to be the biggest hypocrisy that I've seen thus far.
me, i'm many years removed from catholicism.  the people that see this and either think that its funny/inconsequential..its truly frightening
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Too Frank To Fred on May 04, 2025, 01:31:35 AM
As a long lapsed Catholic I'd find this quite funny if I didn't know Trump was half-serious about this nonsense and so ego-driven...
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: JANUS on May 04, 2025, 03:20:02 AM
A non-Catholic wanting to be Pope? Who does he think he is? Henry the 8th? (I don’t know a lot about history, this attempt at humour may not be apt.)
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: SmashtheState on May 06, 2025, 08:43:52 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GqDNEcoXAAAzj6R.jpg:large)

for a myriad of reasons this image is inappropriate.  but portraying HIM as a holy man has got to be the biggest hypocrisy that I've seen thus far.
me, i'm many years removed from catholicism.  the people that see this and either think that its funny/inconsequential..its truly frightening
If he became the pope and fuck off in solitude never to be heard from again I'd be down for it. Plus him being a creepy rapey turd it'd make sense just saying.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Gnarfunkell on May 06, 2025, 08:48:41 AM
Woot woot I will be furloughed starting next week thanks to DOGE.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Unkle Fleak on May 09, 2025, 01:22:39 PM
The low income food stores are closing on Sunday. I just barely copped enough for a few days.
Then I went down to the food bank. They’re also running dry.

Pretty soon the streets will be filled with angry jobless people.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on May 09, 2025, 10:27:34 PM
Woot woot I will be furloughed starting next week thanks to DOGE.

Sorry to hear this.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Too Frank To Fred on May 10, 2025, 12:11:47 AM
Woot woot I will be furloughed starting next week thanks to DOGE.

Damn. What do you do for living, if you don't mind sharing?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: pugmaster on May 10, 2025, 10:47:25 AM
Breaking news: tRump has just appointed the person who designs the parking lots at Trader Joe's to become the Secretary of Transportation
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Gnarfunkell on May 11, 2025, 12:13:07 PM
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Woot woot I will be furloughed starting next week thanks to DOGE.
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Damn. What do you do for living, if you don't mind sharing?

Federal grant peer review.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Rerun on May 11, 2025, 03:53:30 PM
By next year every MLK Boulevard will be renamed James Earl Ray Drive.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on May 12, 2025, 05:33:40 PM
3 card Monty is a pretty apt comparison.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2025/05/trump-trade-war-scam/682780/
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: McBrandt on May 13, 2025, 11:49:30 AM
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Woot woot I will be furloughed starting next week thanks to DOGE.
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Damn. What do you do for living, if you don't mind sharing?
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Federal grant peer review.

I work in scientific publishing. Obviously I'm aware of peer review for research articles and the like, but I guess I'm a bit ignorant on specifics in the funding area regarding grants. Are (Were) you reviewing cases where researchers in your field are requesting federal grants from the NIH (or something akin to it) to do their research/work?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Gnarfunkell on May 14, 2025, 06:43:07 AM
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Woot woot I will be furloughed starting next week thanks to DOGE.
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Damn. What do you do for living, if you don't mind sharing?
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Federal grant peer review.
[close]

I work in scientific publishing. Obviously I'm aware of peer review for research articles and the like, but I guess I'm a bit ignorant on specifics in the funding area regarding grants. Are (Were) you reviewing cases where researchers in your field are requesting federal grants from the NIH (or something akin to it) to do their research/work?

I'm employed by a private company that's contracted to aid in the peer review process for grants under the DOJ. No issues with the company I work for and we're sitting here ready to get peer review season started, but DOGE/Trump have things jammed up. They've had us stuck in limbo since January 31, and we ran out of "justifiable work" under our contract. Normally we'd be very busy right now. Sad times.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on May 16, 2025, 05:18:24 PM
Can an imbecile and his enablers bankrupt a nation?

https://www.reuters.com/business/view-with-moodys-downgrade-us-loses-treasured-aaa-credit-rating-2025-05-16/

Let the down slide begin!
MERICA!
 We’re on our way to becoming a 3rd world nation!
MERICA! MERICA! MERICA! MERICA! MERICA!
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: JANUS on May 17, 2025, 05:21:29 AM
The ambassador to Canada stating it’s “outrageous” that Canadian businesses have pulled a lot of American products from their shelves is pretty funny. He’s all “we haven’t done anything like that.” Nah, your leader just continually threatens to annex the country, I can’t imagine why anybody would be upset about that.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on May 17, 2025, 08:45:50 AM
The ambassador to Canada stating it’s “outrageous” that Canadian businesses have pulled a lot of American products from their shelves is pretty funny. He’s all “we haven’t done anything like that.” Nah, your leader just continually threatens to annex the country, I can’t imagine why anybody would be upset about that.

I kinda want Canada to call his bluff and do it and send 2 senators and like 40 representatives to Congress that will fight his agenda
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: SmashtheState on May 17, 2025, 09:27:47 AM
Can an imbecile and his enablers bankrupt a nation?

https://www.reuters.com/business/view-with-moodys-downgrade-us-loses-treasured-aaa-credit-rating-2025-05-16/

Let the down slide begin!
MERICA!
 We’re on our way to becoming a 3rd world nation!
MERICA! MERICA! MERICA! MERICA! MERICA!
I'm pretty certain with all these protests deportations ie human trafficking and outrage going on. I believe there's a much larger insidious subterfuge being cooked up to declare martial law so there's no mid term elections/power shift so he can be in power indefinitely. Don't quote me on this I'm just looking at history and it seems likely due to how play by play this shit show debacle continues.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: alien porkchop on May 17, 2025, 11:31:26 AM
I'm pretty certain with all these protests deportations ie human trafficking and outrage going on. I believe there's a much larger insidious subterfuge being cooked up to declare martial law so there's no mid term elections/power shift so he can be in power indefinitely.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Too Frank To Fred on May 17, 2025, 11:45:00 AM
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Woot woot I will be furloughed starting next week thanks to DOGE.
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Damn. What do you do for living, if you don't mind sharing?
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Federal grant peer review.

Oh shit.... Yeah, we relied on a Fed Grant for our funding... No NOFO... so we had to close... Our Federal reps were also canned at 2am via email...

Hope things work out for you @Gnarfunkell
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Shtonk on May 18, 2025, 03:43:42 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXR9PByA9SY
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Unkle Fleak on May 20, 2025, 05:44:51 PM
Boeing can get away with murder.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Gland Dongzig on May 20, 2025, 06:51:42 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/bC5BG6J.jpeg)
Found this out in the wild today. A lot to unpack here.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: EdLawndale on May 21, 2025, 08:44:47 AM
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/justice-department-pulls-civil-rights-investigations-local-police-depa-rcna208230

This dude's a scumbag
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Too Frank To Fred on May 30, 2025, 11:09:23 AM
Feds just shut Job Corps down.

I am currently managing an intake program for youth crisis shelter... The local job corps is sending dozens of young people our way next week... on it goes...
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on May 30, 2025, 12:29:26 PM
Feds just shut Job Corps down.

I am currently managing an intake program for youth crisis shelter... The local job corps is sending dozens of young people our way next week... on it goes...

They are on the attack:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/labor-dept-suspend-job-corps-centers-put-students-danger-cost-taxpayers-1-7b
but have been for many years:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-job-corps-failure-1524432262

The program needs overhauling but I imagine this is just a way to cut support for poor people. Some of the stats looking troubling and could be but without context are murky:
- The low graduation rate might be really bad OR it could be that by just being in the program the kids are more likely to be employable or receive positive opportunities, which pull them out of the program.
- Also, it ignores that our peak years to engage in crime/deviance are our late teens. While this program doesn't turn the kids into little robots and undo all the aspects of their environment, maybe it reduces crime, which is supposedly why we pay the police more than most teachers and professors. It seems like we enjoy investing in crime prevention as a society?
- And, it ignores the benefits of just housing at risk kids and the strain this is going to put on places like @Too Frank To Fred

Job Corps needs an overhaul, but not in this manner. JobCorps has blue and red protectors in congress and the late George Foreman was a graduate, so it'd be hard for Trump to just kill it outright. Where were the dems in Biden's first two years to make changes to this? Where the fuck is their Project 2025? Dems need to stop simply protecting institutions, but start remaking them in order to protect them.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Cuban_Lynx on May 30, 2025, 12:45:13 PM
It'd be a shame if Musk OD'd on Ketamine like Matthew Perry.

(https://idahonews.com/resources/media2/16x9/4277/648/0x223/90/86dedf2d-fa25-4731-819d-4bb7056c5c18-GettyImages2217857584.jpg)

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/30/us/elon-musk-drugs-children-trump.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/30/us/elon-musk-drugs-children-trump.html)
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Painted Baby on May 30, 2025, 12:45:39 PM
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Feds just shut Job Corps down.

I am currently managing an intake program for youth crisis shelter... The local job corps is sending dozens of young people our way next week... on it goes...
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They are on the attack:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/labor-dept-suspend-job-corps-centers-put-students-danger-cost-taxpayers-1-7b
but have been for many years:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-job-corps-failure-1524432262

The program needs overhauling but I imagine this is just a way to cut support for poor people. Some of the stats looking troubling and could be but without context are murky:
- The low graduation rate might be really bad OR it could be that by just being in the program the kids are more likely to be employable or receive positive opportunities, which pull them out of the program.
- Also, it ignores that our peak years to engage in crime/deviance are our late teens. While this program doesn't turn the kids into little robots and undo all the aspects of their environment, maybe it reduces crime, which is supposedly why we pay the police more than most teachers and professors. It seems like we enjoy investing in crime prevention as a society?
- And, it ignores the benefits of just housing at risk kids and the strain this is going to put on places like @Too Frank To Fred

Job Corps needs an overhaul, but not in this manner. JobCorps has blue and red protectors in congress and the late George Foreman was a graduate, so it'd be hard for Trump to just kill it outright. Where were the dems in Biden's first two years to make changes to this? Where the fuck is their Project 2025? Dems need to stop simply protecting institutions, but start remaking them in order to protect them.
2 other whiffs of bullshit I caught off of that Fox article. First one is Biden paused business at TWO of the job centers during his admin. OK but that doesn't mean that it's a good idea to scrap all 123. Let's play whataboutism - so there are some problems at some police stations...let's shut all those down too I guess.

The other whopper they're trying to launder is about how fraught it is for these workers in these programs. I'm not suggesting that they aren't exploited and haven't been abused but I'm wondering if the abuse they're describing occurred at the job centers or the minimum wage jobs the article suggest they routinely wind up placed at? That point seemed intentionally murky but they could just be papering over how bad it is to work in entry level jobs.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Painted Baby on May 30, 2025, 01:09:22 PM
It'd be a shame if Musk OD'd on Ketamine like Matthew Perry.

(https://idahonews.com/resources/media2/16x9/4277/648/0x223/90/86dedf2d-fa25-4731-819d-4bb7056c5c18-GettyImages2217857584.jpg)

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/30/us/elon-musk-drugs-children-trump.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/30/us/elon-musk-drugs-children-trump.html)
For us that be paywalled:
http://archive.today/VBEYT
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Too Frank To Fred on May 30, 2025, 01:34:04 PM
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Feds just shut Job Corps down.

I am currently managing an intake program for youth crisis shelter... The local job corps is sending dozens of young people our way next week... on it goes...
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They are on the attack:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/labor-dept-suspend-job-corps-centers-put-students-danger-cost-taxpayers-1-7b
but have been for many years:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-job-corps-failure-1524432262

The program needs overhauling but I imagine this is just a way to cut support for poor people. Some of the stats looking troubling and could be but without context are murky:
- The low graduation rate might be really bad OR it could be that by just being in the program the kids are more likely to be employable or receive positive opportunities, which pull them out of the program.
- Also, it ignores that our peak years to engage in crime/deviance are our late teens. While this program doesn't turn the kids into little robots and undo all the aspects of their environment, maybe it reduces crime, which is supposedly why we pay the police more than most teachers and professors. It seems like we enjoy investing in crime prevention as a society?
- And, it ignores the benefits of just housing at risk kids and the strain this is going to put on places like @Too Frank To Fred

Job Corps needs an overhaul, but not in this manner. JobCorps has blue and red protectors in congress and the late George Foreman was a graduate, so it'd be hard for Trump to just kill it outright. Where were the dems in Biden's first two years to make changes to this? Where the fuck is their Project 2025? Dems need to stop simply protecting institutions, but start remaking them in order to protect them.

100%  agree
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on May 30, 2025, 02:40:04 PM
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Feds just shut Job Corps down.

I am currently managing an intake program for youth crisis shelter... The local job corps is sending dozens of young people our way next week... on it goes...
[close]

They are on the attack:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/labor-dept-suspend-job-corps-centers-put-students-danger-cost-taxpayers-1-7b
but have been for many years:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-job-corps-failure-1524432262

The program needs overhauling but I imagine this is just a way to cut support for poor people. Some of the stats looking troubling and could be but without context are murky:
- The low graduation rate might be really bad OR it could be that by just being in the program the kids are more likely to be employable or receive positive opportunities, which pull them out of the program.
- Also, it ignores that our peak years to engage in crime/deviance are our late teens. While this program doesn't turn the kids into little robots and undo all the aspects of their environment, maybe it reduces crime, which is supposedly why we pay the police more than most teachers and professors. It seems like we enjoy investing in crime prevention as a society?
- And, it ignores the benefits of just housing at risk kids and the strain this is going to put on places like @Too Frank To Fred

Job Corps needs an overhaul, but not in this manner. JobCorps has blue and red protectors in congress and the late George Foreman was a graduate, so it'd be hard for Trump to just kill it outright. Where were the dems in Biden's first two years to make changes to this? Where the fuck is their Project 2025? Dems need to stop simply protecting institutions, but start remaking them in order to protect them.


Abundance by Ezra Klein, Derek Thompson would be a good starting point for a Project 2029for Dems
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Scab Picker on May 30, 2025, 03:35:55 PM
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Feds just shut Job Corps down.

I am currently managing an intake program for youth crisis shelter... The local job corps is sending dozens of young people our way next week... on it goes...
[close]

They are on the attack:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/labor-dept-suspend-job-corps-centers-put-students-danger-cost-taxpayers-1-7b
but have been for many years:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-job-corps-failure-1524432262

The program needs overhauling but I imagine this is just a way to cut support for poor people. Some of the stats looking troubling and could be but without context are murky:
- The low graduation rate might be really bad OR it could be that by just being in the program the kids are more likely to be employable or receive positive opportunities, which pull them out of the program.
- Also, it ignores that our peak years to engage in crime/deviance are our late teens. While this program doesn't turn the kids into little robots and undo all the aspects of their environment, maybe it reduces crime, which is supposedly why we pay the police more than most teachers and professors. It seems like we enjoy investing in crime prevention as a society?
- And, it ignores the benefits of just housing at risk kids and the strain this is going to put on places like @Too Frank To Fred

Job Corps needs an overhaul, but not in this manner. JobCorps has blue and red protectors in congress and the late George Foreman was a graduate, so it'd be hard for Trump to just kill it outright. Where were the dems in Biden's first two years to make changes to this? Where the fuck is their Project 2025? Dems need to stop simply protecting institutions, but start remaking them in order to protect them.
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Abundance by Ezra Klein, Derek Thompson would be a good starting point for a Project 2029for Dems
Democrats just keep moving to the right. Instead of reaching out to Gen Z, they had Kamala touring with the Cheneys. There needs to be a new party. If the DNC didn’t screw over Bernie in 2016, we never would have had Trump. I don’t expect Democrats to learn from their mistakes or do anything meaningful to oppose MAGA policy.

Moving to Europe for grad school is becoming less of a dream and more of a goal as the days go by.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: CrumblingInfrastructure on May 30, 2025, 11:16:23 PM
Damn I actually went through Job Corps from 17-18. I knew I wasnt going to college. I dropped out and went there and got my welding certs/training/GED free and was able to transition into getting a job and a place to live (they gave you a couple thousand when you complete to help get you started).

There was issues back then with it but ultimately it was the best decision I made and I learned a trade and got a good reality check from it.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Scab Picker on May 31, 2025, 05:54:51 AM
http://www.instagram.com/reel/DIUDmgOOiFM/?igsh=anRjZDZldzN0cDh3
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Cuban_Lynx on May 31, 2025, 06:02:38 AM
http://www.instagram.com/reel/DIUDmgOOiFM/?igsh=anRjZDZldzN0cDh3
“Elon Musk knows those computers better than anybody, all those computers, those vote counting computers"
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: h00man on June 05, 2025, 02:02:06 PM
It has begun. Grab your popcorn folks, this is gonna be great

(https://i.imgur.com/Mj5mLmV.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/ruL8SGj.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/bh1INxQ.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/8T34C7F.jpeg)

They're all fucking stupid
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: JANUS on June 05, 2025, 02:21:28 PM
Eh, fuck both of those turds.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: pugmaster on June 05, 2025, 02:38:38 PM
His base will still support him no matter what. He could SA a child on national TV and they will do all the mental gymnastics they are so great at to somehow make him the victim.

Remember, 100% of jurors found him guilty of sexual assault before he took office.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: SupremePizza on June 05, 2025, 03:39:04 PM
Fuck em both, I wouldn't be surprised if this is all staged
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Lenny the Fatface on June 05, 2025, 04:16:52 PM
His base will still support him no matter what. He could SA a child on national TV and they will do all the mental gymnastics they are so great at to somehow make him the victim.

Remember, 100% of jurors found him guilty of sexual assault before he took office.

Yeah sticking it to gay people and artsy white women are their only concerns frfr.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on June 05, 2025, 04:53:22 PM
Fuck em both, I wouldn't be surprised if this is all staged

I say that’s exactly what this is — a smoke screen to make people forget the “big beautiful bill.”
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TerryFunk on June 05, 2025, 04:56:36 PM
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Fuck em both, I wouldn't be surprised if this is all staged
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I say that’s exactly what this is — a smoke screen to make people forget the “big beautiful bill.”


Exactly. This is all just entertainment to gloss over the fact that the American economy is about to be fucked. It’s already started, but this is just the beginning. I’d say no one is going to be able to buy or sell a home this time next year.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: botefdunn on June 05, 2025, 05:50:56 PM
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Fuck em both, I wouldn't be surprised if this is all staged
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I say that’s exactly what this is — a smoke screen to make people forget the “big beautiful bill.”
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Exactly. This is all just entertainment to gloss over the fact that the American economy is about to be fucked. It’s already started, but this is just the beginning. I’d say no one is going to be able to buy or sell a home this time next year.

I don't know much about real estate, why are you saying about the not being able to buy / sell a home, how does that work?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: fuck_that_guy on June 05, 2025, 06:15:40 PM
fuck that guy and fuck that guy too
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TerryFunk on June 05, 2025, 07:50:20 PM
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Fuck em both, I wouldn't be surprised if this is all staged
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I say that’s exactly what this is — a smoke screen to make people forget the “big beautiful bill.”
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Exactly. This is all just entertainment to gloss over the fact that the American economy is about to be fucked. It’s already started, but this is just the beginning. I’d say no one is going to be able to buy or sell a home this time next year.
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I don't know much about real estate, why are you saying about the not being able to buy / sell a home, how does that work?

Tarrifs = inflation increase
With an inflation increase = federal reserve increases interest rates
Higher interest rates = higher mortgage payments
 
Inflation also kills the purchasing power of the American dollar. With less value in the dollar, less people can afford to purchase a home. Less in the buy/sale market, also less homes being built as labor and materials cost more that companies can’t afford to build.

However, some think real estate is a good investment in times of economic inflation. Really it’s only somewhat positive if you have a fixed rate mortgage, which basically means your monthly payments are a standard price. Even with that, if the value of the American dollar goes down, you have to pay for double the amount with the same budget. It’s already been happening over the last few years with groceries. A recession doesn’t have to be instantaneous like it was in 2008. It can also be a gradual erosion of an economy.


I just hope I don’t see the complete downfall of this country in my lifetime. I don’t feel like fighting over millionaire money I’ll never smell
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on June 05, 2025, 09:10:00 PM
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Fuck em both, I wouldn't be surprised if this is all staged
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I say that’s exactly what this is — a smoke screen to make people forget the “big beautiful bill.”
[close]


Exactly. This is all just entertainment to gloss over the fact that the American economy is about to be fucked. It’s already started, but this is just the beginning. I’d say no one is going to be able to buy or sell a home this time next year.

I’m with you both on this.

 Fucking shiny object! Ohhh! I don’t realize how badly I’m getting fucked now!
I’ll take up arms for billionaires.
Aimed right at them.
Fuck both those imbecilic racist fucks. No sane person should ever believe a word coming out of the prolapsed anuses they call mouths.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Resin on June 06, 2025, 05:09:30 AM
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Fuck em both, I wouldn't be surprised if this is all staged
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I say that’s exactly what this is — a smoke screen to make people forget the “big beautiful bill.”

I would say that if this is political theater with the intent to divert attention away from the bill then the Elon's choice to tweet that the bill is an abomination doesn't really line up with that.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Painted Baby on June 06, 2025, 11:37:46 AM
It's Monster Island baby. Let them fight.

Elon was Trump's nuke. Hey Congressperson, do you have an election coming up? Well vote the way Trump tells you to on everything (cabinet appointments, court appointments, budgets) or the homie Elon will dump hundreds of millions into your race for the other guy. Then Wisconsin happened and Elon's money failed to elect the MAGA justice to their Supreme Court. Now all of a sudden, it's what have you done for me lately? Elon's money can't gaslight people when they see and feel the material effects of Project 2025 and he is a liability as an active participant but still has some use as a blame sponge. You don't gotta keep him around for that tho. But hey, that's the richest guy in the world and he probably has feelings too! So now he's lashing out as he realizes he was used like all the other ones and will use his platform that got Trump elected to kill the bill. It only takes a couple of Senators and it's over for the BB Bill. They can vote for whatever kooky shit they want to because Elon won't run someone else against them anymore.

I want to be crystal clear here and say there are no good guys anywhere in any of this.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: The real veganshawn on June 07, 2025, 09:35:03 PM
Shits hitting the fan in L.A. FUCK TRUMP
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Unkle Fleak on June 07, 2025, 10:37:54 PM
The alien enemies act is on. Martial law too I just heard.

Right wing am radio saying mass is next.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: radcunt on June 08, 2025, 04:36:43 AM
Every fucking state should be hitting the streets. NYC should be out in force, every large city that isn’t fucked in the head as the national guard and their defences can’t attack everyone.  Leaving this to LA is nuts.  I’m amazed how lax the US is to all this shit.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: The real veganshawn on June 08, 2025, 04:52:04 AM
Every fucking state should be hitting the streets. NYC should be out in force, every large city that isn’t fucked in the head as the national guard and their defences can’t attack everyone.  Leaving this to LA is nuts.  I’m amazed how lax the US is to all this shit.
America is full of fat, stupid and lazy bigots
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Allen. on June 08, 2025, 06:08:43 AM
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Every fucking state should be hitting the streets. NYC should be out in force, every large city that isn’t fucked in the head as the national guard and their defences can’t attack everyone.  Leaving this to LA is nuts.  I’m amazed how lax the US is to all this shit.
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America is full of fat, stupid and lazy bigots
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on June 08, 2025, 06:47:28 AM
Every fucking state should be hitting the streets. NYC should be out in force, every large city that isn’t fucked in the head as the national guard and their defences can’t attack everyone.  Leaving this to LA is nuts.  I’m amazed how lax the US is to all this shit.

They want the excuse - don’t give it to them.  They have planted instigators, be as peaceful as possible
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on June 08, 2025, 07:10:32 PM
Dipshit spoke with KGB or GRU(whatever they’re called now) 4 days ago, now we have federal troops sent in to California that weren’t required/requested. Does anyone think that this was a coincidence? Dry run for the next coup anyone?
New and improved with military troops for 2026/28!
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Cuban_Lynx on June 09, 2025, 05:29:52 AM
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Every fucking state should be hitting the streets. NYC should be out in force, every large city that isn’t fucked in the head as the national guard and their defences can’t attack everyone.  Leaving this to LA is nuts.  I’m amazed how lax the US is to all this shit.
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They want the excuse - don’t give it to them.  They have planted instigators, be as peaceful as possible
Images of burning cars while waving the Mexican flag is jet fuel to flame Trump’s fire.

I’ve seen so much footage of police attacking citizens, it’s just like 2020 all over again. They know there’s no consequences. This cop shot an Australian reporter with a rubber bullet from behind about 10’ away. They do not give a fuck.

https://apnews.com/article/immigration-raids-los-angeles-reporter-shot-d771cabeb1d75af0201669ab98b96bd4#
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Too Frank To Fred on June 09, 2025, 09:03:23 AM
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Every fucking state should be hitting the streets. NYC should be out in force, every large city that isn’t fucked in the head as the national guard and their defences can’t attack everyone.  Leaving this to LA is nuts.  I’m amazed how lax the US is to all this shit.
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America is full of fat, stupid and lazy bigots
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And also inspired, beautiful radicals.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Shapelessness on June 09, 2025, 02:02:53 PM
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Every fucking state should be hitting the streets. NYC should be out in force, every large city that isn’t fucked in the head as the national guard and their defences can’t attack everyone.  Leaving this to LA is nuts.  I’m amazed how lax the US is to all this shit.
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They want the excuse - don’t give it to them.  They have planted instigators, be as peaceful as possible
Absolutely! They predict riots and chaos from the masses, then they have an excuse to do whatever they want. Go home! Let the marines and national guard stand out there for no reason. The old way is broken. A new wave of activism must be formed. We have to figure out a way to be unpredictable. I dont think we are there yet. Its so hard when rage is running through your mind, im sure.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: EdLawndale on June 09, 2025, 10:02:12 PM
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Every fucking state should be hitting the streets. NYC should be out in force, every large city that isn’t fucked in the head as the national guard and their defences can’t attack everyone.  Leaving this to LA is nuts.  I’m amazed how lax the US is to all this shit.
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They want the excuse - don’t give it to them.  They have planted instigators, be as peaceful as possible
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Absolutely! They predict riots and chaos from the masses, then they have an excuse to do whatever they want. Go home! Let the marines and national guard stand out there for no reason. The old way is broken. A new wave of activism must be formed. We have to figure out a way to be unpredictable. I dont think we are there yet. Its so hard when rage is running through your mind, im sure.

Username checks out.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: botefdunn on June 09, 2025, 10:45:37 PM
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Every fucking state should be hitting the streets. NYC should be out in force, every large city that isn’t fucked in the head as the national guard and their defences can’t attack everyone.  Leaving this to LA is nuts.  I’m amazed how lax the US is to all this shit.
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They want the excuse - don’t give it to them.  They have planted instigators, be as peaceful as possible
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Absolutely! They predict riots and chaos from the masses, then they have an excuse to do whatever they want. Go home! Let the marines and national guard stand out there for no reason. The old way is broken. A new wave of activism must be formed. We have to figure out a way to be unpredictable. I dont think we are there yet. Its so hard when rage is running through your mind, im sure.

I respect the thought, but disagree. All activism eventually requires a physical component, not saying violence, but physically standing up, and the time when this is most effective is when others  will join you, which is now.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: scab on June 09, 2025, 11:28:50 PM
^That line of thought also completely disregards why people are protesting right now. And that's not because of some theoretical poli-sci argument, but because real people are being disappeared as we sit here debating the ideal time and place for civil disobedience. That's a luxury many people simply don't have. They're protesting today because tomorrow their loved ones or even they themselves might not be here anymore.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on June 10, 2025, 12:42:22 AM
Stephen Miller and Bannon are probably very excited about this situation. It is a distraction from some of the big issues that Trump  and the GOP just want to go away.

The Musk/Trump--temporary--fall out doesn't make them look good. After sitting in so many meetings, Musk probably has more to disclose than the obvious Trump-Epstein connection. No one in the admin wants Musk to air the Trump admin's dirty laundry. Not to mention the right doesn't want to cut Musk loose as they want his money.
The bill being moved through Congress is going to push people off medicaid, cut SNAP (food stamp) benefits, cut green energy funding, and increase the country's debt with some new tax cuts and by extending previous Trump cuts. It is going to harm the "working class" and benefit the very wealthy. Not a good look for the party who is pretending to be on the side of workers.
And, Trump's tariff nonsense has been whiplashing the economy around and isn't generating positive headlines.
None of these things make our TV obsessed president look good.
And none of these are single news-cycle issues.

Getting into a fight with Newsome about "lawlessness" in California due to "protecting illegal immigrants 'criminals'" is going to distract and excite his base. Immigration is his most popular issue. The last poll I saw noted that 37% of Americans don't give a fuck about due process for non-citizens and over 50% of Americans think Trump is prioritizing criminals not the law abiding people who dreamt of a better life. Waymos on fire, cop cars smashed with rocks, and people waving Mexican flags is a wet dream for the administration. A few incidents can be framed and sold as if it is the 1992 riots all over again. It is a story FOX dreams of to sell their fear based hatred.

I'd argue the best way to protect people and make sure they are treated properly is to teach everyone their rights when interacting with authorities, give them a script to follow when interacting with agents, and put an American flag on every single house in LA county.

The rabble will figure out ways to hate (think of the legal Haitian immigrant hate used to help Trump's campaign), but some narratives are easier than others to spin. Let's make the narrative as difficult as possible to spin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Wt4dMxPLcE
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Shapelessness on June 10, 2025, 07:40:39 PM
Thats just like, my opinion, man....

Anyways.
Not sure if this dark enlightenment thing has been brought up yet. I think its all a distraction to get that real good control. Its like a calculated jiu-jitsu move.
I think we should be more fearful of this shit that they've been planning.

https://www.populismstudies.org/Vocabulary/dark-enlightenment/
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on June 10, 2025, 08:23:29 PM
All you need to know about the way plan to take over was already done in Germany. They are literally using the exact same tactics as the Hitler and the S.A. did.   
 Look at how the Weimar Republic fell. This is what they’re trying to do right now. Next is Operation Canned Goods. I’m just not sure if Canada or Mexico will be our Poland(guessing Mexico just for the fact that the current government is racist as fuck). Too bad no one bothered to pay attention to history and this is all surprisingly new to people. Create a problem then seize control and do not relinquish it. Old hat.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on June 11, 2025, 01:30:22 AM
All you need to know about the way plan to take over was already done in Germany. They are literally using the exact same tactics as the Hitler and the S.A. did.   
 Look at how the Weimar Republic fell. This is what they’re trying to do right now. Next is Operation Canned Goods. I’m just not sure if Canada or Mexico will be our Poland(guessing Mexico just for the fact that the current government is racist as fuck). Too bad no one bothered to pay attention to history and this is all surprisingly new to people. Create a problem then seize control and do not relinquish it. Old hat.


Did the rise of Emperor Palpatine teach these people nothing?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: SmashtheState on June 11, 2025, 08:34:22 AM
All very much playing in to that greasy Cheetos hands (don't be surprised if there's no midterms and state of emergency totalitarian power is put in place).

The fires were flashbangs that police and ice setting things off instigators if you will. I'd argue that peaceful protests do work however that'd require the police and etc.. to have a conscious and understand what ppl are pissed about, hard to stay peaceful when there's a proverbial boot over someone's neck literally and figuratively.

There's WAAAAYYY more citizens than authority,  I'd gladly love to see the mass protesters march upon DC the way those cucks on Jan 6th.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Shapelessness on June 11, 2025, 09:24:55 AM
All very much playing in to that greasy Cheetos hands (don't be surprised if there's no midterms and state of emergency totalitarian power is put in place).

The fires were flashbangs that police and ice setting things off instigators if you will. I'd argue that peaceful protests do work however that'd require the police and etc.. to have a conscious and understand what ppl are pissed about, hard to stay peaceful when there's a proverbial boot over someone's neck literally and figuratively.

There's WAAAAYYY more citizens than authority,  I'd gladly love to see the mass protesters march upon DC the way those cucks on Jan 6th.
Werd.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on June 11, 2025, 10:12:20 AM
Trump announced his plans to end FEMA after the 2025 hurricane season -- a season his appointed head of FEMA didn't know existed.

People in the south who voted for him are seriously about to be fucked.

Wonder who they'll blame? Obama? AOC and her New Green Deal? Hunter Biden's dick?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: EdLawndale on June 11, 2025, 12:46:05 PM
Crazy to hear Trump and his team say that all the protesters are paid violent criminals. Totally delulu. That blonde lady gave a press conference today and a news reporter asked her for the proof Trump has when he says that protestors were paid, to which she responded that Trump has common sense and boxes of masks were seen left in protest areas, not to mention claimed 400 ppl who were criminal immigrants were arrested since June 6. When the news reporter pointed out that there are thousands of ppl protesting, she accused said reporter of supporting violent criminal immigrants and ended the press conference, leaving in a huff.

I really hope these protests get bigger and bigger and expand city to city so this administration can't try to portray the widespread public outrage as simply fringe extremists and paid criminal immigrants.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Shitbag on June 11, 2025, 01:28:15 PM
I hope there is a giant fucking crowd of people protesting his giant dick taster parade on Saturday, oops I mean DICTATOR parade.

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Shapelessness on June 11, 2025, 01:39:34 PM
Thoughts?
Is this a trap? Its interesting that she would pay for the ad.
Is it genuine hate against drumpf?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemimamcevoy/2025/06/10/billionaire-walmart-heiress-promotes-nationwide-anti-trump-protests-on-june-14/
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: roba on June 12, 2025, 12:37:34 AM
i fw it
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Audrey II on June 12, 2025, 06:33:11 AM
was in manhattan last night shooting photos of people protesting. it got a bit messy as soon as they left the blubba /courthouse area. mostly peaceful people, but there were a few instigators on both sides, cops certainly were aggressive though, watched multiple people get arrested right infront of me.

if youre the type to participate in protests, just be sure to keep your eyes open, be smart, peaceful, and please be careful.

(https://i.imgur.com/zOKI8rf.jpeg)
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: pugmaster on June 12, 2025, 09:14:46 AM
Some levity from a joke I read online:

How many maga supporters does it take to change a lightbulb?

None, tRump tells them the light is fixed and they sit in the dark cheering.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: botefdunn on June 12, 2025, 10:32:04 AM
Thoughts?
Is this a trap? Its interesting that she would pay for the ad.
Is it genuine hate against drumpf?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemimamcevoy/2025/06/10/billionaire-walmart-heiress-promotes-nationwide-anti-trump-protests-on-june-14/

Seems likely just pr in reaction to his tariff fees comment.

https://thehill.com/business/5307935-walmart-donald-trump-tariff-response/ (https://thehill.com/business/5307935-walmart-donald-trump-tariff-response/)


Walmart spent over 22 mil getting trump elected and supporting (among other things) antiabortion and election denier candidates.

https://united4respect.org/reports/walmart-political-spending-2024/ (https://united4respect.org/reports/walmart-political-spending-2024/)

they would be the first to sell king trump memorabilia
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on June 12, 2025, 12:41:11 PM
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Thoughts?
Is this a trap? Its interesting that she would pay for the ad.
Is it genuine hate against drumpf?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemimamcevoy/2025/06/10/billionaire-walmart-heiress-promotes-nationwide-anti-trump-protests-on-june-14/
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Seems likely just pr in reaction to his tariff fees comment.

https://thehill.com/business/5307935-walmart-donald-trump-tariff-response/ (https://thehill.com/business/5307935-walmart-donald-trump-tariff-response/)


Walmart spent over 22 mil getting trump elected and supporting (among other things) antiabortion and election denier candidates.

https://united4respect.org/reports/walmart-political-spending-2024/ (https://united4respect.org/reports/walmart-political-spending-2024/)

they would be the first to sell king trump memorabilia

She’s not involved in Walmart’s day to day
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: noxiousPond on June 12, 2025, 12:43:21 PM
Some levity from a joke I read online:

How many maga supporters does it take to change a lightbulb?

None, tRump tells them the light is fixed and they sit in the dark cheering.

This is brilliant.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Unkle Fleak on June 12, 2025, 01:46:16 PM
Some levity from a joke I read online:

How many maga supporters does it take to change a lightbulb?

None, tRump tells them the light is fixed and they sit in the dark cheering.

This is exactly the reality.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Unkle Fleak on June 12, 2025, 01:56:44 PM
Senator Alex Padilla was dragged out of a press conference and cuffed up for speaking out against their lies.

Mid terms will be cancelled because they know they can’t win
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: botefdunn on June 12, 2025, 02:59:07 PM
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Thoughts?
Is this a trap? Its interesting that she would pay for the ad.
Is it genuine hate against drumpf?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemimamcevoy/2025/06/10/billionaire-walmart-heiress-promotes-nationwide-anti-trump-protests-on-june-14/
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Seems likely just pr in reaction to his tariff fees comment.

https://thehill.com/business/5307935-walmart-donald-trump-tariff-response/ (https://thehill.com/business/5307935-walmart-donald-trump-tariff-response/)


Walmart spent over 22 mil getting trump elected and supporting (among other things) antiabortion and election denier candidates.

https://united4respect.org/reports/walmart-political-spending-2024/ (https://united4respect.org/reports/walmart-political-spending-2024/)

they would be the first to sell king trump memorabilia
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She’s not involved in Walmart’s day to day

The operative words in that headline are "walmart-promotes-nationwide-anti-trump-protests" , and I've never heard anything remotely close to that until now, days after he publicly criticized them. Sure, it could be an entirely editorial decision to spin it that way, but the fact remains that it makes it look like walmart has some problem with the way the current political regime is doing things, when 22 million dollars says otherwise. Regardless, the money of the woman in the article (and apparently paying for the ad) was made on the backs of labourers whose living and working conditions bear more resemblance to medieval peasants than they do to american standards, so her attempt to foment outrage among the little people for their place in the hierarchy seems oretty rich (pun intended) as she looks down from the castle keep.

*full disclosure, I played in a band in high school called fuck walmart, and i named it. I knew it was a shitty name even then.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on June 12, 2025, 04:59:38 PM
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Thoughts?
Is this a trap? Its interesting that she would pay for the ad.
Is it genuine hate against drumpf?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemimamcevoy/2025/06/10/billionaire-walmart-heiress-promotes-nationwide-anti-trump-protests-on-june-14/
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Seems likely just pr in reaction to his tariff fees comment.

https://thehill.com/business/5307935-walmart-donald-trump-tariff-response/ (https://thehill.com/business/5307935-walmart-donald-trump-tariff-response/)


Walmart spent over 22 mil getting trump elected and supporting (among other things) antiabortion and election denier candidates.

https://united4respect.org/reports/walmart-political-spending-2024/ (https://united4respect.org/reports/walmart-political-spending-2024/)

they would be the first to sell king trump memorabilia
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She’s not involved in Walmart’s day to day
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The operative words in that headline are "walmart-promotes-nationwide-anti-trump-protests" , and I've never heard anything remotely close to that until now, days after he publicly criticized them. Sure, it could be an entirely editorial decision to spin it that way, but the fact remains that it makes it look like walmart has some problem with the way the current political regime is doing things, when 22 million dollars says otherwise. Regardless, the money of the woman in the article (and apparently paying for the ad) was made on the backs of labourers whose living and working conditions bear more resemblance to medieval peasants than they do to american standards, so her attempt to foment outrage among the little people for their place in the hierarchy seems oretty rich (pun intended) as she looks down from the castle keep.

*full disclosure, I played in a band in high school called fuck walmart, and i named it. I knew it was a shitty name even then.


Total editorial decision to do that, but the article kinda is more about a growing group of dissatisfied billionaires
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mongo Lloyd on June 12, 2025, 05:02:03 PM
@botefdunn

I beg to differ, that is an AWESOME band name.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on June 12, 2025, 07:36:06 PM
I’ll be at the other end of the state doing the same. With you guys in solidarity.

Oh, per Wall Street Journal:

SAN FRANCISCO—A federal judge ruled Thursday that President Trump illegally federalized the California National Guard in response to the Los Angeles protests and ordered that the force be returned to the control of Democratic Gov. Gavin Newsom.
Trump failed to follow the process Congress set forth to bring the Guard, which normally is an arm of the state government, under federal control, U.S. District Judge Charles Breyer said in a 36-page order issued just hours after a hearing on the dispute.
Trump’s “actions were illegal—both exceeding the scope of his statutory authority and violating the Tenth Amendment to the United States Constitution,” Breyer wrote. “He must therefore return control of the California National Guard to the Governor of the State of California forthwith.”
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Gnarfunkell on June 16, 2025, 07:43:01 AM
As a resident of FL, I was happy to see how big some of the crowds were here for the No Kings protest. We had a solid turnout here at the capital.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Allen. on June 16, 2025, 08:23:05 AM
Protestors in Detroit and Canada (specifically Windsor) united against Trump across the Detroit River with bullhorns the other day. Detroiters chanting “can-a-da” and the Canadians chanting back “U-S-A.”

Fuck fascism. Fuck Trump.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on June 16, 2025, 08:52:42 AM
Orange Chicken really got butt hurt over no one being at his military parade where he signed an EO stating that the VA can deny Democrats and unmarried men treatment.

Yea, he's going full fascist with this move to hurt left leaning military veterans.

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/us/new-va-policy-sparks-outrage-as-doctors-may-refuse-treatment-to-democrats-and-unmarried-veterans-alike/articleshow/121886890.cms?from=mdr
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: SupremePizza on June 16, 2025, 12:21:23 PM
It was awesome to see all the protestors on Saturday. Even in this Maga leaning town there were at least 100 people out. Also someone at the local skatepark seems to be triggered by the anti-maga stickers I've been putting up since they've taken them down every time.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on June 16, 2025, 05:13:38 PM
Was glad to see a bunch of brothers/sisters in black out for the one here. Really had no idea how many of us there were in this city until I saw the iykyk colors for that day.
Was really expecting something to happen since there were a ton of online threats(vroom/bang/pew images/posts) nothing materialized though. Shockingly, there were even young farmers out in support. Slaps made for this one:
(https://i.postimg.cc/VNT5L7Jw/IMG-5711.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/GBFbXxPg)
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on June 16, 2025, 07:13:58 PM
Was glad to see a bunch of brothers/sisters in black out for the one here. Really had no idea how many of us there were in this city until I saw the iykyk colors for that day.
Was really expecting something to happen since there were a ton of online threats(vroom/bang/pew images/posts) nothing materialized though. Shockingly, there were even young farmers out in support. Slaps made for this one:
(https://i.postimg.cc/VNT5L7Jw/IMG-5711.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/GBFbXxPg)


How do the farmers not know better

I saw some IG vid where some guy was ragin about the government taking his farm because they were doing in the IRA and he seemed willfully unable to mention which government did what
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on June 16, 2025, 08:23:46 PM
These were protesting with us AGAINST tRump. Group of 10 with ‘Hicks Against tRump’ signs. I went and shook all their hands and thanked them.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on June 16, 2025, 08:48:30 PM
These were protesting with us AGAINST tRump. Group of 10 with ‘Hicks Against tRump’ signs. I went and shook all their hands and thanked them.

No I know, hard to articulate but it’s weird that it was shocking to see them.   With all the aggressions taken against them and rural communities, you’d think they’d be at the front of the line in protest
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: midnitecruiser on June 17, 2025, 10:46:30 AM
I went to the No Kings protest in Heber City, Utah. There were about 200 people on both sides of Main Street/US 40 holding signs encouraging the drivers passing by to honk. I lived in NYC before and marched in the streets there, and people were marching through Salt Lake later in the day, but Heber and Park City both held stationary events along roadways. There was something about all these people standing with signs seeking the approval of drivers passing that maybe speaks to a depressing, perhaps particularly American deference to automobiles, but semi drivers were honking support as well as seemingly half of passing vehicles. I don't know that many people around here yet, so felt good seeing good people in a "red" state.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: noxiousPond on June 17, 2025, 07:04:07 PM
I went to the No Kings protest in Heber City, Utah. There were about 200 people on both sides of Main Street/US 40 holding signs encouraging the drivers passing by to honk. I lived in NYC before and marched in the streets there, and people were marching through Salt Lake later in the day, but Heber and Park City both held stationary events along roadways. There was something about all these people standing with signs seeking the approval of drivers passing that maybe speaks to a depressing, perhaps particularly American deference to automobiles, but semi drivers were honking support as well as seemingly half of passing vehicles. I don't know that many people around here yet, so felt good seeing good people in a "red" state.


Makes it so incredibly obvious the election was rigged when there are that many people protesting him across the country and his bullshit event only drew about 10k people.

I actually tried going that day but when I got there it was over. I later found out my nearest city only allowed it for two hours. I’m sorry but what the hell is the point of a protest if your local government dictates the hours. That totally defeats the point of this IMO.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on June 17, 2025, 07:15:14 PM
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I went to the No Kings protest in Heber City, Utah. There were about 200 people on both sides of Main Street/US 40 holding signs encouraging the drivers passing by to honk. I lived in NYC before and marched in the streets there, and people were marching through Salt Lake later in the day, but Heber and Park City both held stationary events along roadways. There was something about all these people standing with signs seeking the approval of drivers passing that maybe speaks to a depressing, perhaps particularly American deference to automobiles, but semi drivers were honking support as well as seemingly half of passing vehicles. I don't know that many people around here yet, so felt good seeing good people in a "red" state.
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Makes it so incredibly obvious the election was rigged when there are that many people protesting him across the country and his bullshit event only drew about 10k people.

I actually tried going that day but when I got there it was over. I later found out my nearest city only allowed it for two hours. I’m sorry but what the hell is the point of a protest if your local government dictates the hours. That totally defeats the point of this IMO.


I don’t think anything was rigged.  People wanted change, they didn’t necessarily want trump.   Anti-incumbency was a global trend.   
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on June 17, 2025, 08:22:58 PM
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These were protesting with us AGAINST tRump. Group of 10 with ‘Hicks Against tRump’ signs. I went and shook all their hands and thanked them.
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No I know, hard to articulate but it’s weird that it was shocking to see them.   With all the aggressions taken against them and rural communities, you’d think they’d be at the front of the line in protest

Sorry I mis-read that. Yeah anyone with half a brain that doesn’t blindly follow the propaganda can see how badly they’re being fucked by him. But, it’s easier to blame the guy who doesn’t look or act like you than it is to take responsibility for empowering the imbeciles that are fucking you. Control the media control the masses, project your mistakes onto others, pass the buck, etc etc etc.

Oh, I’m sure you’ve seen they’re starting to raid farms and such now. Gonna be real hard to find people to do those shit jobs for minimum wage or less. tRumps gonna have a hard time insulating himself from that fallout. I’m sure he’ll find someone to take the fall though.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on June 17, 2025, 11:58:47 PM
Is Tucker Carlson upset about Israel attacking Iran cause Russia is a key supporter of Iran? Is Russia paying him to be upset?

How did our favorite skateboarding moopet respond?

Israel v Iran: This could actually be a big win for the Trump admin. Iran is not a great nation-state and their repression of their people sucks. Seeing this regime change to something moderate would be great. However, I wonder if moderate would be allowed. There will be quite the power struggle between the USA and the regional powers for installing a government of their choice. I wonder who within the country each power will support or who each power will encourage to return to take over.

I wonder the Iranian Oil Company would be allowed to stay in place and if they country would be allowed to have a national oil company. I have a feeling Goldman Sachs/Exxon be in charge of the country and all its resources. But, Lukoil, Rosneft, and VTB are not going to like that.

I wonder what the country's relationship with Saudi looks like after.

Israel's and Netanyahu's ego would be out of control. And Saudi Arabia not having a strong regional power pushing back would suck. They have more power than they should already.


Oh, I’m sure you’ve seen they’re starting to raid farms and such now. Gonna be real hard to find people to do those shit jobs for minimum wage or less. tRumps gonna have a hard time insulating himself from that fallout. I’m sure he’ll find someone to take the fall though.

Surprised the admin is back to going after low paid workers in these industries. Business people won't allow for cheap labor to completely vanish. Stephen Miller's hatred is going to push up against the real GOP power, those who own the means of production. And, we're going to run into a reality where these jobs won't get filled. I imagine more will get filled than most people on the left think, but far less than those on the right believe. Who wants to live in the middle of nowhere far from family and friends to pick strawberries for less than min wage?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on June 18, 2025, 02:24:17 AM
Is Tucker Carlson upset about Israel attacking Iran cause Russia is a key supporter of Iran? Is Russia paying him to be upset?

How did our favorite skateboarding moopet respond?

Israel v Iran: This could actually be a big win for the Trump admin. Iran is not a great nation-state and their repression of their people sucks. Seeing this regime change to something moderate would be great. However, I wonder if moderate would be allowed. There will be quite the power struggle between the USA and the regional powers for installing a government of their choice. I wonder who within the country each power will support or who each power will encourage to return to take over.

I wonder the Iranian Oil Company would be allowed to stay in place and if they country would be allowed to have a national oil company. I have a feeling Goldman Sachs/Exxon be in charge of the country and all its resources. But, Lukoil, Rosneft, and VTB are not going to like that.

I wonder what the country's relationship with Saudi looks like after.

Israel's and Netanyahu's ego would be out of control. And Saudi Arabia not having a strong regional power pushing back would suck. They have more power than they should already.


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Oh, I’m sure you’ve seen they’re starting to raid farms and such now. Gonna be real hard to find people to do those shit jobs for minimum wage or less. tRumps gonna have a hard time insulating himself from that fallout. I’m sure he’ll find someone to take the fall though.
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Surprised the admin is back to going after low paid workers in these industries. Business people won't allow for cheap labor to completely vanish. Stephen Miller's hatred is going to push up against the real GOP power, those who own the means of production. And, we're going to run into a reality where these jobs won't get filled. I imagine more will get filled than most people on the left think, but far less than those on the right believe. Who wants to live in the middle of nowhere far from family and friends to pick strawberries for less than min wage?


Nah trump said they’re not going after farm workers or hotel staff this weekend
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: neonbrown on June 18, 2025, 08:16:32 AM
Israel v Iran: This could actually be a big win for the Trump admin. Iran is not a great nation-state and their repression of their people sucks. Seeing this regime change to something moderate would be great.

Yeah man this is totally gonna work, just like it did in Libya, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Haiti, Yugoslavia, Venezuela, Ukraine, Bolivia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4u9_ffR5qfA
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on June 18, 2025, 08:59:18 AM
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Is Tucker Carlson upset about Israel attacking Iran cause Russia is a key supporter of Iran? Is Russia paying him to be upset?

How did our favorite skateboarding moopet respond?

Israel v Iran: This could actually be a big win for the Trump admin. Iran is not a great nation-state and their repression of their people sucks. Seeing this regime change to something moderate would be great. However, I wonder if moderate would be allowed. There will be quite the power struggle between the USA and the regional powers for installing a government of their choice. I wonder who within the country each power will support or who each power will encourage to return to take over.

I wonder the Iranian Oil Company would be allowed to stay in place and if they country would be allowed to have a national oil company. I have a feeling Goldman Sachs/Exxon be in charge of the country and all its resources. But, Lukoil, Rosneft, and VTB are not going to like that.

I wonder what the country's relationship with Saudi looks like after.

Israel's and Netanyahu's ego would be out of control. And Saudi Arabia not having a strong regional power pushing back would suck. They have more power than they should already.


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Oh, I’m sure you’ve seen they’re starting to raid farms and such now. Gonna be real hard to find people to do those shit jobs for minimum wage or less. tRumps gonna have a hard time insulating himself from that fallout. I’m sure he’ll find someone to take the fall though.
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Surprised the admin is back to going after low paid workers in these industries. Business people won't allow for cheap labor to completely vanish. Stephen Miller's hatred is going to push up against the real GOP power, those who own the means of production. And, we're going to run into a reality where these jobs won't get filled. I imagine more will get filled than most people on the left think, but far less than those on the right believe. Who wants to live in the middle of nowhere far from family and friends to pick strawberries for less than min wage?
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Nah trump said they’re not going after farm workers or hotel staff this weekend

At work so can’t dig up articles now. Waffles is back at it:
(https://i.postimg.cc/x85VJmk3/IMG-5726.png) (https://postimg.cc/4HYSjmQY)
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Enrico Pallazzo on June 18, 2025, 10:13:47 AM
Is Tucker Carlson upset about Israel attacking Iran cause Russia is a key supporter of Iran? Is Russia paying him to be upset?

How did our favorite skateboarding moopet respond?

Israel v Iran: This could actually be a big win for the Trump admin. Iran is not a great nation-state and their repression of their people sucks. Seeing this regime change to something moderate would be great. However, I wonder if moderate would be allowed. There will be quite the power struggle between the USA and the regional powers for installing a government of their choice. I wonder who within the country each power will support or who each power will encourage to return to take over.

I wonder the Iranian Oil Company would be allowed to stay in place and if they country would be allowed to have a national oil company. I have a feeling Goldman Sachs/Exxon be in charge of the country and all its resources. But, Lukoil, Rosneft, and VTB are not going to like that.

I wonder what the country's relationship with Saudi looks like after.

Israel's and Netanyahu's ego would be out of control. And Saudi Arabia not having a strong regional power pushing back would suck. They have more power than they should already.


This might deserve its own thread, but I've got a bridge to sell anybody who believes that the goal of this offensive in Iran is regime change to a moderate government. Israel's goal is nothing more than to destabilize and decimate Iran, and ideally use the US to do its dirty work and create another "democracy success story" like Iraq, Libya, Syria, Afghanistan, etc.

My in-laws are Iranian expats, and I think in the Persian diaspora there's this underlying thought of "if we can just get X, Y, and Z to happen, the people will rise up and things will go back to a prosperous Western, pre-revolution Iran". My heart breaks at the thought of them being unable to return to their country, I can't imagine the feeling (well, now I'm starting to get it) of watching your country be taken over by religious fundamentalists and having to flee. But it's just a step too far to imagine Israel or the US's actions as being altruistic in any way. I see no goal of liberating the Iranian people, but rather subjugation and dehumanization in a different form while their country gets strip-mined for every last resource.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: S. on June 18, 2025, 11:24:21 AM
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Is Tucker Carlson upset about Israel attacking Iran cause Russia is a key supporter of Iran? Is Russia paying him to be upset?

How did our favorite skateboarding moopet respond?

Israel v Iran: This could actually be a big win for the Trump admin. Iran is not a great nation-state and their repression of their people sucks. Seeing this regime change to something moderate would be great. However, I wonder if moderate would be allowed. There will be quite the power struggle between the USA and the regional powers for installing a government of their choice. I wonder who within the country each power will support or who each power will encourage to return to take over.

I wonder the Iranian Oil Company would be allowed to stay in place and if they country would be allowed to have a national oil company. I have a feeling Goldman Sachs/Exxon be in charge of the country and all its resources. But, Lukoil, Rosneft, and VTB are not going to like that.

I wonder what the country's relationship with Saudi looks like after.

Israel's and Netanyahu's ego would be out of control. And Saudi Arabia not having a strong regional power pushing back would suck. They have more power than they should already.

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This might deserve its own thread, but I've got a bridge to sell anybody who believes that the goal of this offensive in Iran is regime change to a moderate government. Israel's goal is nothing more than to destabilize and decimate Iran, and ideally use the US to do its dirty work and create another "democracy success story" like Iraq, Libya, Syria, Afghanistan, etc.

My in-laws are Iranian expats, and I think in the Persian diaspora there's this underlying thought of "if we can just get X, Y, and Z to happen, the people will rise up and things will go back to a prosperous Western, pre-revolution Iran". My heart breaks at the thought of them being unable to return to their country, I can't imagine the feeling (well, now I'm starting to get it) of watching your country be taken over by religious fundamentalists and having to flee. But it's just a step too far to imagine Israel or the US's actions as being altruistic in any way. I see no goal of liberating the Iranian people, but rather subjugation and dehumanization in a different form while their country gets strip-mined for every last resource.


Yes. If anything the attacks strengthen the regime. If you live in Iran they are the ones you have to rely on now to protect you against the Isreali assault.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: neonbrown on June 18, 2025, 11:47:10 AM
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Is Tucker Carlson upset about Israel attacking Iran cause Russia is a key supporter of Iran? Is Russia paying him to be upset?

How did our favorite skateboarding moopet respond?

Israel v Iran: This could actually be a big win for the Trump admin. Iran is not a great nation-state and their repression of their people sucks. Seeing this regime change to something moderate would be great. However, I wonder if moderate would be allowed. There will be quite the power struggle between the USA and the regional powers for installing a government of their choice. I wonder who within the country each power will support or who each power will encourage to return to take over.

I wonder the Iranian Oil Company would be allowed to stay in place and if they country would be allowed to have a national oil company. I have a feeling Goldman Sachs/Exxon be in charge of the country and all its resources. But, Lukoil, Rosneft, and VTB are not going to like that.

I wonder what the country's relationship with Saudi looks like after.

Israel's and Netanyahu's ego would be out of control. And Saudi Arabia not having a strong regional power pushing back would suck. They have more power than they should already.

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This might deserve its own thread, but I've got a bridge to sell anybody who believes that the goal of this offensive in Iran is regime change to a moderate government. Israel's goal is nothing more than to destabilize and decimate Iran, and ideally use the US to do its dirty work and create another "democracy success story" like Iraq, Libya, Syria, Afghanistan, etc.

My in-laws are Iranian expats, and I think in the Persian diaspora there's this underlying thought of "if we can just get X, Y, and Z to happen, the people will rise up and things will go back to a prosperous Western, pre-revolution Iran". My heart breaks at the thought of them being unable to return to their country, I can't imagine the feeling (well, now I'm starting to get it) of watching your country be taken over by religious fundamentalists and having to flee. But it's just a step too far to imagine Israel or the US's actions as being altruistic in any way. I see no goal of liberating the Iranian people, but rather subjugation and dehumanization in a different form while their country gets strip-mined for every last resource.
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Yes. If anything the attacks strengthen the regime. If you live in Iran they are the ones you have to rely on now to protect you against the Isreali assault.

Nah, we are just a few more MOABs away from turning Tehran into suburban Dallas.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GWf7iVxW4AASDan.jpg)
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: stets on June 18, 2025, 01:53:55 PM
I just got laid off yesterday, thanks in no small part to Trump's idiotic trade war. My former employer manufactures their goods in China and Vietnam. I am 100% confident that if Trump hadn't have been reelected, I would still be employed and the company would be doing much better.

Catching strays from a misguided egomaniac's pissing match of a trade war.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Rusty Shackleford on June 21, 2025, 10:08:21 PM
(https://images.lbc.co.uk/images/109538?width=4593&crop=16_9&signature=B9MFp1l93PqpDt44VwTT67cz-Uw=)
so much for controlling the unsustainable growth of the $36 trillion national debt. enrich the defense contractors, lower the taxes on the rich, and the rest of us can finance this for years to come. plus all of the oil that goes through their strait of hormuz, prices could go up up up
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Top-Heavy Hookjaw on June 22, 2025, 05:19:50 AM
I just got laid off yesterday, thanks in no small part to Trump's idiotic trade war. My former employer manufactures their goods in China and Vietnam. I am 100% confident that if Trump hadn't have been reelected, I would still be employed and the company would be doing much better.

Catching strays from a misguided egomaniac's pissing match of a trade war.

I’m sorry to hear that. It sucks.

How about that new “endless war in the Middle East” that we got into this weekend?
USA = Israel’s bitch
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: neonbrown on June 22, 2025, 05:31:38 AM
At this point, I think it's probably useful if we think of MAGA as a doomsday cult, interlocked with Israel in a murder-suicide pact.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: JakeBeskatin on June 22, 2025, 04:07:26 PM
Big Daddy Trump went and dropped some big joints on Iran and their nuclear research stations.
Im a convicted felon, so Im prolly not gonna get drafted into the war that’s about to happen.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on June 22, 2025, 08:01:13 PM
So, far this is an easy win for Netanyahu and Trump. Netanyahu forced Trump's hand, but gave him an easy and visible win.

Also, interesting that Russia has hung Iran out to dry. If we hadn't supported Ukraine, it seems likely that Russia would have the ability to do more than say, "lol, Israel has Russian speakers. Good luck Iran. Thanks for the drones though. Byeeeee." I wonder if any conservative anti-Ukraine critics will put 2+2 together on this one. Probably not.

I have no idea how this plays out. Israel can't easily occupy the huge territory of Iran like it can Gaza or the West Bank. If Iran collapses, who comes in to fill the void? What happens when this repressive and shitty, but stable government between Iraq and Afghanistan comes tumbling down? Does it get worse? Do we get another puppet regime? I don't think the Trump admin will be willing to occupy the country and try nation building again, so who is going to do it?

If the current government hangs on, how does it change? More aggressive? Less aggressive? What will happen to the people of Iran? What kind of shit can we expect from Israel as it continues its military wins? Some of these "wins" are against starving people begging for food, but embarrassing Iran is a real win.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/gaza-faces-man-made-drought-water-systems-collapse-unicef-says-2025-06-20/#:~:text=In%20recent%20weeks%2C%20Israeli%20forces,combat%20zones%20to%20access%20food.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: alien porkchop on June 22, 2025, 08:49:54 PM
At this point, I think it's probably useful if we think of MAGA as a doomsday cult, interlocked with Israel in a murder-suicide pact.

full doomsday cult. a ton of these people are millennialist zealots.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on June 22, 2025, 11:14:47 PM
Anyone catch the four civilian tech execs sworn in as lieutenant colonels?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on June 23, 2025, 08:54:02 AM
Anyone catch the four civilian tech execs sworn in as lieutenant colonels?

Saw that. The “DEI hire” crowd was very quiet.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Unkle Fleak on June 23, 2025, 09:03:18 AM
They know they grow more and more unpopular by the day.

They want our kids to die cuz conservative values are all but dead
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: GnarAlarm on June 23, 2025, 09:41:02 AM
I have this awful vision of a retaliatory terrorist(?) attack on US soil (real or manufactured) and the administration immediately using it to call for martial law, full lockdown of borders, freeze all elections, I dunno, maybe arrest or murder all opposing political factions. At this point there's a bottomless pit of horrors I wouldn't be surprised to see.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Unkle Fleak on June 23, 2025, 01:53:09 PM
I have this awful vision of a retaliatory terrorist(?) attack on US soil (real or manufactured) and the administration immediately using it to call for martial law, full lockdown of borders, freeze all elections, I dunno, maybe arrest or murder all opposing political factions. At this point there's a bottomless pit of horrors I wouldn't be surprised to see.

This is what I see coming too. They need people to mass enlist to fight for the CEOs causes.

Protect your kids. Tell them not to join everyday.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Scab Picker on June 23, 2025, 04:18:57 PM
Taking an anti-depressant or an anti-psychotic within the past 5 years disqualifies you from any military service.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: noxiousPond on June 23, 2025, 05:33:43 PM
I have this awful vision of a retaliatory terrorist(?) attack on US soil (real or manufactured) and the administration immediately using it to call for martial law, full lockdown of borders, freeze all elections, I dunno, maybe arrest or murder all opposing political factions. At this point there's a bottomless pit of horrors I wouldn't be surprised to see.

Considering 9/11 happened. This can easily happen as well. Especially with this angry toddler shit bag president.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Top-Heavy Hookjaw on June 23, 2025, 05:43:55 PM
Oh please—everyone knows Trump’s on the Epstein guest list. No need to start World War III just to keep Bibi and the Mossad from cashing in their blackmail chips.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on June 23, 2025, 06:09:12 PM
Taking an anti-depressant or an anti-psychotic within the past 5 years disqualifies you from any military service.

So does having ‘Chicken Foot’ aka ‘My daddy paid a doctor to write a note saying I can’t serve’ like our fearless* president.

So have the proudboys publicly disavowed their white knight yet after the strikes?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: dapurge on June 23, 2025, 06:29:20 PM
Taking an anti-depressant or an anti-psychotic within the past 5 years disqualifies you from any military service.
Do medical examiners wherever they do physicals care? I remember trying to join the navy over two decades ago and I came in with an arthroscopic surgery on my meniscus. I was told by the recruiters that if they don’t ask then don’t bring it up. It eventually showed on my last task in the physical. I couldn’t do a proper duck walk and failed the physical on two occasions. The recruiter roasted me on the drive back and recruiters of other branches in my campus would tell me they heard I chickened out. Does the same apply with mental (scrips, behavioral issues, etc)?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: neonbrown on June 23, 2025, 07:25:00 PM
I have this awful vision of a retaliatory terrorist(?) attack on US soil (real or manufactured) and the administration immediately using it to call for martial law, full lockdown of borders, freeze all elections, I dunno, maybe arrest or murder all opposing political factions. At this point there's a bottomless pit of horrors I wouldn't be surprised to see.

I don't think it's fair to classify potential Iranian retaliation as terrorism.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on June 23, 2025, 07:42:16 PM
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I have this awful vision of a retaliatory terrorist(?) attack on US soil (real or manufactured) and the administration immediately using it to call for martial law, full lockdown of borders, freeze all elections, I dunno, maybe arrest or murder all opposing political factions. At this point there's a bottomless pit of horrors I wouldn't be surprised to see.
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I don't think it's fair to classify potential Iranian retaliation as terrorism.

Iran can’t hit us directly.   They could barely accurately hit their targets in Israel.   If they were going to do something on our soil it’d be through a terrorist group proxy they fund or a supposed sleeper cell
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on June 24, 2025, 12:27:01 AM
Iran warned before it sent missiles to the US base in Qatar. It was a face saving act. Iran seems to be in a really weak spot and doesn't have anyone to come to the rescue. It doesn't seem Iran has too many options on escalating this conflict with military power. I do wonder if they'd actually block the Strait of Hormuz as it seems to be their last bargaining chip.
https://www.foreignaffairs.com/iran/how-iran-could-escalate
https://www.npr.org/2025/06/24/1254640146/will-iran-block-the-strait-of-hormuz
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/23/world/middleeast/iran-response-ceasefire-chance.html


Israel couldn't be more thrilled in the moment. They did not want America to negotiate with Iran. I'd bet Israel has a free pass to do whatever it wants for the next 6 months. Netanyahu is running the show. Trump is just going along for the ride. Anyone who voted for Trump cause they thought Biden wasn't tough enough on Israel was a total fool or was lying about why they wanted to vote Trump.


I feel we need to avoid this distraction and focus on the harm Trump is doing to America.

The sale of federal land and the destruction of our national parks is its own nightmare.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/23/climate/trump-end-protections-for-58-million-acres-of-national-forests.html
https://www.fastcompany.com/91354978/map-all-250-million-acres-of-public-land-the-trump-budget-bill-would-sell-off

And, how we are banking on a solution to the avg American's economic woes that doesn't make sense. Rural communities used to fight for jails/prisons to be located in their areas as they thought they'd be great job creation. The few jobs weren't worth the problems and the jobs fucking suck (working at jail or prison can pay well, but it is fucking miserable). I feel we are going to find the same thing out if/when some of these factories return. Not to mention, no one wants to work a factory job for shit wages. I'm uncertain where people got the idea non-union factory jobs were great pay and could provide with the income to afford a nice home in a desirable part of the country.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/23/business/factory-jobs-workers-trump.html

And, how--once again--the GOP complained about "money being sent to [insert scapegoat, this time Ukraine] that should be spent on Americans" is being used on tax cuts and we are planning on cutting more and more of the meager benefits Americans receive:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/23/republican-senate-trump-bill-medicaid-cuts
https://www.wosu.org/politics-government/2025-05-29/trumps-new-spending-bill-includes-reducing-federal-funding-for-snap-food-program-by-nearly-300b
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0eqpz23l9jo

And, we will take money from the avg person who sends their kid to public school and send it to the rich people who already send their kids to private schools
https://www.governing.com/policy/trump-expands-school-choice-with-new-executive-order
Something we've already seen cause real harm to Arizona's budget and act as a regressive tax on the poor to subsidies the wealthiest in the state.
https://www.propublica.org/article/arizona-school-vouchers-budget-meltdown

Or the attack on due process with these absurd ICE raids that lack due process and openly defy the courts. Fucking monsters like Timothy McVeigh deserved due process, so do those who snuck in, overstayed a visa, or lost their legal rights due to some Trump admin shenanigans.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/30/us/politics/trump-deportation-el-salvador.html

Or, all the tax money we are spending on Trump's properties. We spend millions shuffling this idiot around and then have to pay him to house the free security detail we give him and his family of grifters.
https://gisme.georgetown.edu/publications/secret-service-costs-for-presidential-travel-continue-to-mount/
https://cbs12.com/news/local/protecting-the-president-costs-pbso-240k-a-day-when-hes-in-palm-beach-county
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/09/trump-golf-trips

Or the money he is being bribed with through his stupid meme coin or the Dubai hotel. Or the billions Saudi has already given his idiot son-in-law. Among other obviously wrong actions. Side Note: Schiff's framing of the plane issue bothers me. The corruption is the start, but he needs to hammer in on the fact that the plane is too big for most airports and Qatar hasn't been able to sell this opulent piece of shit for years. It is a liability wrapped in gold foil.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=000yxkGXSVM

We are being robbed and just like Netanyahu who needs Israel's wars to continue to avoid going to trial for his actions, Trump needs everyone to focus on this to forgot the horrible shit going on here.

Not to mention, Democrats are getting fucking killed in this country by right wing hyper-religious Trump supporting anti-abortion kooks. Two Democratic officials were killed weeks ago. Let's worry about this before worrying about Iran who will likely strike in the their own neighborhood before doing anything else, if they do anything at all.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/14/us/politics/minnesota-shootings-gunman-suspect.html
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: h00man on June 24, 2025, 11:35:01 AM
Wonder where all the "Harris is just as bad" people went?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on June 24, 2025, 11:43:21 AM
Wonder where all the "Harris is just as bad" people went?

They became the "why isn't Harris/Biden doing anything?"

To which I usually reply, "they're private citizens. they're doing what you didn't vote them to do."
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: MusclesMarinara on June 24, 2025, 12:56:15 PM
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Wonder where all the "Harris is just as bad" people went?
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They became the "why isn't Harris/Biden doing anything?"

To which I usually reply, "they're private citizens. they're doing what you didn't vote them to do."
She didn’t do anything in office why’s anyone expecting anything now?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on June 24, 2025, 03:58:23 PM
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Wonder where all the "Harris is just as bad" people went?
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They became the "why isn't Harris/Biden doing anything?"

To which I usually reply, "they're private citizens. they're doing what you didn't vote them to do."
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She didn’t do anything in office why’s anyone expecting anything now?

VPs tend not to be particularly active members of the executive branch unless you have a puppet POTUS like W, but I think people are looking for the Left to take vocal and principled stands they way they wanted Obama to chime in when he was a private citizen during ‘45
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on June 24, 2025, 06:26:57 PM
For the temporarily good file:

The senate parliamentarian is gutting a lot of the heinous parts of the BB Bill like the selling of public lands/drilling
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: h00man on June 24, 2025, 07:33:45 PM
People chose to sit this election out..... these are the consequences
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: SmashtheState on June 25, 2025, 12:22:38 PM
People chose to sit this election out..... these are the consequences
This right here, fools didn't use their voice or vote instead they let the shit show go down. For anyone who didn't vote or voted ole yam tits in office the blood is on your hands.

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I have this awful vision of a retaliatory terrorist(?) attack on US soil (real or manufactured) and the administration immediately using it to call for martial law, full lockdown of borders, freeze all elections, I dunno, maybe arrest or murder all opposing political factions. At this point there's a bottomless pit of horrors I wouldn't be surprised to see.
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I don't think it's fair to classify potential Iranian retaliation as terrorism.
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Iran can’t hit us directly.   They could barely accurately hit their targets in Israel.   If they were going to do something on our soil it’d be through a terrorist group proxy they fund or a supposed sleeper cell
This administration is just begging for a false narrative to declare martial law, right out of Nazi playbook.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on July 03, 2025, 01:45:24 AM
Looks like the BBBill is going to pass early this morning. Stoked to see the poorest Americans safety net shrink that much more. Also, stoked to see the environment get fucked again. Fuck me, we could invent pollution free solutions to every problem and big oil and big kookery would make up a reason not to trust it.
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/07/03/us/trump-news-policy-bill

Murkowski "Don't vote for the bill that I just voted for." I feel like she is only swing voter when it doesn't matter. It is a bummer. She isn't hyper wealthy (roughly 2 million plus her pension), but rich enough not worry about money for the rest of her life. Why are the "moderate" republicans and the "hardline" republicans so quick to retreat? They bark and make noise but never hold their convictions. Why did the Dems have to deal with fucking Manchin who was willing to throw the entire bill away to protect his coal plant?
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/01/us/politics/murkowski-republican-bill.html

Not sure how I feel about the large tax deductions for tips, overtime, and social security. Social security deductions are possibly the hardest to swallow. The old have the lowest poverty rates in America and those who are just living off social security (not a pension or a huge 401K) aren't really paying anything in taxes in the first place. And I wonder if the loss of the benefits is going to cost them more than the tax deduction.

As for the tips and overtime, I don't know. I like when workers have more money. But, I don't like that it is people who earn a salary that are the ones who get get caught holding the bag here. And, tipping culture is weird enough in America, I wonder if tipped jobs will expand.

Finally, I was wrong. I thought Musk held all the cards since he has so much more money than Trump. But, it seems his threat to primary anyone who votes for the bill was ignored. I wonder if he will follow through, that'll be great. I'd bet he'll go all in nazi's. Hell maybe import AfD and National Front people to America so they can run in his "centrist" party.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Painted Baby on July 03, 2025, 12:46:11 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIDtvvl417s
AOC articulates the no tax on tips scam pretty well here. The untaxed rate was also kept stupid high so that it would benefit the broker class who routinely get chubby tips when their work pays off. So bullshit on looking out for working moms pulling shifts at the diner.

Manchin and Murkowski are an interesting comparison. They both consistently acted as brakes on their party's agenda but Manchin never caved. Same motivation too though. So few people live in AK that they have to advocate harder to get the same basic Federal support a more populous state would get. Kentucky is poor as hell and their economy is based around a dead resource. So the Senators advocate for their causes while they thwart the big picture planning. Murkowski got the carve outs she wanted and said as such. She voted yes and then felt real bad about it publicly on live TV. Played by Trump or his handlers again, just like all the other times.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: h00man on July 03, 2025, 01:08:00 PM
I'm asking for the "I didnt vote because she's just as bad", people to stand up and take a bow.

Please come and show yourself. I know you're reading this. Fucking cowards.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Billy flowers on July 03, 2025, 05:53:56 PM
Yea I didn't vote, anything you wanna say to me?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on July 03, 2025, 05:57:06 PM
Yea I didn't vote, anything you wanna say to me?

Yea. You're an idiot and just as complicit as MAGATs.

 
 
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Billy flowers on July 03, 2025, 06:05:10 PM
What's a magat?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: h00man on July 03, 2025, 06:27:54 PM
Yea I didn't vote, anything you wanna say to me?

Did you not vote because you thought Kamala would be just as bad, if not worse, than Trump?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: JANUS on July 03, 2025, 07:43:47 PM
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Yea I didn't vote, anything you wanna say to me?
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Did you not vote because you thought Kamala would be just as bad, if not worse, than Trump?

If I know my slap lore, dude may have been locked up, or depending in the crime, ineligible to vote. My apologies if I got you mixed up.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on July 03, 2025, 07:47:28 PM
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Yea I didn't vote, anything you wanna say to me?
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Did you not vote because you thought Kamala would be just as bad, if not worse, than Trump?

Actually if I recall correctly, he said he just did a 5 in prison in a uwtb thread, so I’d wager that’s why.

Well I hope the Big Beautiful Fuck You to lower income and working class they passed today hits hard and fast. Maybe then people will see just how much they got fucked and by whom. That’s about the only way a lot of people will realize they bought into a fake promise and propaganda. Sucks but it’s here so fucking burn.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on July 03, 2025, 10:13:28 PM
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Yea I didn't vote, anything you wanna say to me?
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Did you not vote because you thought Kamala would be just as bad, if not worse, than Trump?
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Actually if I recall correctly, he said he just did a 5 in prison in a uwtb thread, so I’d wager that’s why.

Well I hope the Big Beautiful Fuck You to lower income and working class they passed today hits hard and fast. Maybe then people will see just how much they got fucked and by whom. That’s about the only way a lot of people will realize they bought into a fake promise and propaganda. Sucks but it’s here so fucking burn.

A lot of the FUCK YoU will kick in under the next guy so republicans can be like “wasn’t life under Trump better?”
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: linty on July 04, 2025, 12:09:24 AM
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Yea I didn't vote, anything you wanna say to me?
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Did you not vote because you thought Kamala would be just as bad, if not worse, than Trump?
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Actually if I recall correctly, he said he just did a 5 in prison in a uwtb thread, so I’d wager that’s why.

Well I hope the Big Beautiful Fuck You to lower income and working class they passed today hits hard and fast. Maybe then people will see just how much they got fucked and by whom. That’s about the only way a lot of people will realize they bought into a fake promise and propaganda. Sucks but it’s here so fucking burn.
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A lot of the FUCK YoU will kick in under the next guy so republicans can be like “wasn’t life under Trump better?”
The ouroboros of inculpability
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on July 04, 2025, 01:41:38 AM
Trump wants to hold a UFC event at the White House next July 4
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: JANUS on July 04, 2025, 04:32:20 AM
Trump wants to hold a UFC event at the White House next July 4

It’s got a real ‘bread and circuses’ feel to it. The fat cunt should just turn the White House into a nascar track and call it a day.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on July 04, 2025, 04:42:51 AM
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Trump wants to hold a UFC event at the White House next July 4
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It’s got a real ‘bread and circuses’ feel to it. The fat cunt should just turn the White House into a nascar track and call it a day.


It’s just so on the nose that it feels lazy
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Shitbag on July 04, 2025, 08:46:36 AM
They’re eating the cats, they’re eating the dogs, they’re eating themselves!!!!
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: h00man on July 04, 2025, 10:32:46 AM
They’re eating the cats, they’re eating the dogs, they’re eating themselves!!!!

I still can't believe he said that on live television in front of millions of Americans, and they still chose to vote for him.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: neonbrown on July 04, 2025, 10:39:03 AM
I'm asking for the "I didnt vote because she's just as bad", people to stand up and take a bow.

Please come and show yourself. I know you're reading this. Fucking cowards.

I think you're actually mad at a few tens of thousands of Muslims in Michigan and Wisconsin who couldn't countenance voting for someone who was actively assisting in the genocide of their friends and families.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Billy flowers on July 04, 2025, 01:15:49 PM
I get to keep my Medicaid luckily

All you guys had to do was not be super annoying, but nope leftists can't help themselves, definitely a fuck you vote

Karmala shoulda gone on Rogan too

See who runs next round, maybe sanders?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mongo Lloyd on July 04, 2025, 01:44:26 PM
I get to keep my Medicaid luckily

All you guys had to do was not be super annoying, but nope leftists can't help themselves, definitely a fuck you vote

Karmala shoulda gone on Rogan too

See who runs next round, maybe sanders?

All prospective presidents should definitely go on Rogan and hit up the podcast circuit!

More clown show shit that further makes America an absolute laughing stock.

I suppose though when the masses have the attention span of a potato you gotta speak to them where you can.

Anyways, one side may be annoying, the other annoying, fascist and hateful. Things aren’t exactly equal.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Billy flowers on July 04, 2025, 02:12:56 PM
It's rich that the slap on balls guy thinks Rogan is a laughing stock...

Also I'm not in a room of right wingers to give any critique..

Anyways if you guys wanna win you gotta be more moderate like Obama

Gotta have somewhat of a border, can't be doing the Biden shit

Umm what else.. yea and just don't be annoying and cringe and you guys should win next time

And let's make weed federally legal please along with the healthcare
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: neonbrown on July 04, 2025, 02:39:58 PM
I get to keep my Medicaid luckily

All you guys had to do was not be super annoying, but nope leftists can't help themselves, definitely a fuck you vote

Karmala shoulda gone on Rogan too

See who runs next round, maybe sanders?

Who are the leftists you're imagining here? Because the people who are mad in this thread are imagining a leftist who concluded that there was no meaningful difference between Harris and Trump. Kamala took exactly 0 "left" positions.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mongo Lloyd on July 04, 2025, 02:46:20 PM
It's rich that the slap on balls guy thinks Rogan is a laughing stock...

Also I'm not in a room of right wingers to give any critique..

Anyways if you guys wanna win you gotta be more moderate like Obama

Gotta have somewhat of a border, can't be doing the Biden shit

Umm what else.. yea and just don't be annoying and cringe and you guys should win next time

And let's make weed federally legal please along with the healthcare

I think it’s rich you’re criticizing the left and proposing policy that the right vehemently opposes.

We get it, you wish it was Joe Rogan who scrawled the word “Slap” on his balls instead. I bet the thought gets your panties all steamed up.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on July 04, 2025, 03:07:34 PM
Trump wants to hold a UFC event at the White House next July 4

IDIOCRACY WAS SUPPOSED TO BE SATIRE! NOT INSPIRATION!!!!
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Unkle Fleak on July 05, 2025, 10:08:15 AM
Taking an anti-depressant or an anti-psychotic within the past 5 years disqualifies you from any military service.

I don’t care if I was fit as fuck. I’d never pick up a gun for them just to rob and pillage the other side of the planet for a billionaire. I won’t allow them to program our kids. Fuck the masters.
I’ve never believed in their call to slaughter. I believe in equal rights around the planet. No borders not nations not armies or battle boats or any of that dad shit.

A cell is better than being an abuser of the defenseless. The revolution will start there when people like me dissolve their racist program and unite under one idea.
Free ourselves and tear down their system of control.

I don’t even wanna hear it won’t work. That’sa lie programmed into us by Saturday morning cartoons. There’s plenty to go around. No one needs gi fucking joe the fucking macho aas baby murdering scum and Batman is a bastard hoarding the people’s funds. I could go on and on about the stupid tv.

Disarm the planet today. Start with the police. They’ve proven over and over that they don’t deserve their firearms at all. Fucking nazis are the army of the rich. Which is designed to take away your voice and perpetuate the racist ideas of yesterday and allow the bastards to hang on to their paranoid petrified control over you.

Fuck all that shit.

Also trans people ain’t the fucking enemy. End your pathetic attempt to dehumanize a freedom movement that to me is righteous as fuck.

Freedom choice you fake ass patriots. You filthy fucking violence junkies.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: BALARGUE on July 05, 2025, 10:35:09 AM
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I'm asking for the "I didnt vote because she's just as bad", people to stand up and take a bow.

Please come and show yourself. I know you're reading this. Fucking cowards.
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I think you're actually mad at a few tens of thousands of Muslims in Michigan and Wisconsin who couldn't countenance voting for someone who was actively assisting in the genocide of their friends and families.

how are they feeling about Trump now ?
you sometimes have to pick the least worst to avoid the obvious worst

Trump of course is BB's best buddy

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Unkle Fleak on July 05, 2025, 10:46:17 AM
All these world leaders need to go now. Normal people who give a shit about the people need to run for these offices. Before they sacrifice us all in competition with each other.

I’m going to be the one with the most Monopoly money when the world burns. That’s their game.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: neonbrown on July 05, 2025, 01:19:45 PM
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I'm asking for the "I didnt vote because she's just as bad", people to stand up and take a bow.

Please come and show yourself. I know you're reading this. Fucking cowards.
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I think you're actually mad at a few tens of thousands of Muslims in Michigan and Wisconsin who couldn't countenance voting for someone who was actively assisting in the genocide of their friends and families.
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how are they feeling about Trump now ?
you sometimes have to pick the least worst to avoid the obvious worst

Trump of course is BB's best buddy

I can't believe this rhetoric failed to work for the dozenth time! More scolding is probably needed next time.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Top-Heavy Hookjaw on July 05, 2025, 03:37:53 PM
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I'm asking for the "I didnt vote because she's just as bad", people to stand up and take a bow.

Please come and show yourself. I know you're reading this. Fucking cowards.
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I think you're actually mad at a few tens of thousands of Muslims in Michigan and Wisconsin who couldn't countenance voting for someone who was actively assisting in the genocide of their friends and families.
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how are they feeling about Trump now ?
you sometimes have to pick the least worst to avoid the obvious worst

Trump of course is BB's best buddy
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I can't believe this rhetoric failed to work for the dozenth time! More scolding is probably needed next time.
@neonbrown you are a real one and I will leave it at that. These other two who are compelled to chastise Palestinian Americans for not eating shit and voting for someone who had “no daylight” between herself and BB is just gross at this point. Dems did not show up to vote and it is as simple as that. Stop blaming brown people in Michigan.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: JANUS on July 05, 2025, 06:07:15 PM
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I'm asking for the "I didnt vote because she's just as bad", people to stand up and take a bow.

Please come and show yourself. I know you're reading this. Fucking cowards.
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I think you're actually mad at a few tens of thousands of Muslims in Michigan and Wisconsin who couldn't countenance voting for someone who was actively assisting in the genocide of their friends and families.
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how are they feeling about Trump now ?
you sometimes have to pick the least worst to avoid the obvious worst

Trump of course is BB's best buddy
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I can't believe this rhetoric failed to work for the dozenth time! More scolding is probably needed next time.
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@neonbrown you are a real one and I will leave it at that. These other two who are compelled to chastise Palestinian Americans for not eating shit and voting for someone who had “no daylight” between herself and BB is just gross at this point. Dems did not show up to vote and it is as simple as that. Stop blaming brown people in Michigan.

Perhaps I’m misunderstanding, but h00man didn’t say anything about muslims or Palestinian-Americans. Their criticism was toward Dems who did not show up to vote because they thought Kamala and Trump were equally bad.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on July 05, 2025, 09:39:52 PM
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I'm asking for the "I didnt vote because she's just as bad", people to stand up and take a bow.

Please come and show yourself. I know you're reading this. Fucking cowards.
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I think you're actually mad at a few tens of thousands of Muslims in Michigan and Wisconsin who couldn't countenance voting for someone who was actively assisting in the genocide of their friends and families.
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how are they feeling about Trump now ?
you sometimes have to pick the least worst to avoid the obvious worst

Trump of course is BB's best buddy
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I can't believe this rhetoric failed to work for the dozenth time! More scolding is probably needed next time.
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@neonbrown you are a real one and I will leave it at that. These other two who are compelled to chastise Palestinian Americans for not eating shit and voting for someone who had “no daylight” between herself and BB is just gross at this point. Dems did not show up to vote and it is as simple as that. Stop blaming brown people in Michigan.
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Perhaps I’m misunderstanding, but h00man didn’t say anything about muslims or Palestinian-Americans. Their criticism was toward Dems who did not show up to vote because they thought Kamala and Trump were equally bad.


Trumps re-election was basically death by a thousand cuts and one of those cuts was “brown people in Michigan not showing up”.   
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: EdLawndale on July 05, 2025, 10:37:17 PM
All these world leaders need to go now. Normal people who give a shit about the people need to run for these offices. Before they sacrifice us all in competition with each other.

I’m going to be the one with the most Monopoly money when the world burns. That’s their game.

I feel like this line of thought is how Trump got elected initially.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on July 05, 2025, 10:45:57 PM
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All these world leaders need to go now. Normal people who give a shit about the people need to run for these offices. Before they sacrifice us all in competition with each other.

I’m going to be the one with the most Monopoly money when the world burns. That’s their game.
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I feel like this line of thought is how Trump got elected initially.


I think it was more “America needs to be run like a business” so elect a businessman, which hit because unlikes Steve Forbes, Mike Bloomberg, Trump has a personality, an outsized one at that
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: botefdunn on July 06, 2025, 01:25:27 PM
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All these world leaders need to go now. Normal people who give a shit about the people need to run for these offices. Before they sacrifice us all in competition with each other.

I’m going to be the one with the most Monopoly money when the world burns. That’s their game.
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I feel like this line of thought is how Trump got elected initially.
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I think it was more “America needs to be run like a business” so elect a businessman, which hit because unlikes Steve Forbes, Mike Bloomberg, Trump has a personality, an outsized one at that

The impulse that got him elected is the same one that causes traffic jams from people slowing down to gawk at a car crash.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Unkle Fleak on July 07, 2025, 10:54:24 AM
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All these world leaders need to go now. Normal people who give a shit about the people need to run for these offices. Before they sacrifice us all in competition with each other.

I’m going to be the one with the most Monopoly money when the world burns. That’s their game.
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I feel like this line of thought is how Trump got elected initially.

I’m talking about normal people

Not fake ass Christians.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: h00man on July 07, 2025, 12:31:28 PM
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I'm asking for the "I didnt vote because she's just as bad", people to stand up and take a bow.

Please come and show yourself. I know you're reading this. Fucking cowards.
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I think you're actually mad at a few tens of thousands of Muslims in Michigan and Wisconsin who couldn't countenance voting for someone who was actively assisting in the genocide of their friends and families.
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how are they feeling about Trump now ?
you sometimes have to pick the least worst to avoid the obvious worst

Trump of course is BB's best buddy
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I can't believe this rhetoric failed to work for the dozenth time! More scolding is probably needed next time.
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@neonbrown you are a real one and I will leave it at that. These other two who are compelled to chastise Palestinian Americans for not eating shit and voting for someone who had “no daylight” between herself and BB is just gross at this point. Dems did not show up to vote and it is as simple as that. Stop blaming brown people in Michigan.
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Perhaps I’m misunderstanding, but h00man didn’t say anything about muslims or Palestinian-Americans. Their criticism was toward Dems who did not show up to vote because they thought Kamala and Trump were equally bad.

Yes. Thank you.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: h00man on July 07, 2025, 12:54:58 PM
Also, Trump's team clarified that Eptein killed himself and there is no client list....

today, Trump announces more tariffs! Yay distractions! 
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: augustmoon on July 07, 2025, 05:43:02 PM
Pretty naive to still that that any one group voting or not voting could have prevented any of this.  The people with money wanted this to happen, so it happened.  Even if Trump would have miraculously lost the election, they would have still found a way to invalidate the results and get into office.   Not worth continually arguing about or wasting time on.  Learn to read the room and realize the situation we’re in.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: prettyeasytoday on July 07, 2025, 06:18:08 PM
Pretty naive to still that that any one group voting or not voting could have prevented any of this.  The people with money wanted this to happen, so it happened.  Even if Trump would have miraculously lost the election, they would have still found a way to invalidate the results and get into office.   Not worth continually arguing about or wasting time on.  Learn to read the room and realize the situation we’re in.

Fatalism isn't the answer here. Harris was not a good candidate and most of that was out of her control. She couldn't take Biden's position on any issue because both sides disliked Biden and she couldn't take a different stance from Biden because then she wasn't running on her track record as VP (main qualification to most voters). Biden steps aside early summer, contested convention happens, candidate who wouldn't represent a demographic NBD is picked, things could end way differently.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Scab Picker on July 09, 2025, 07:15:24 AM
Also, Trump's team clarified that Eptein killed himself and there is no client list....

today, Trump announces more tariffs! Yay distractions!
200% tariffs on pharmaceutical goods. After millions of elderly people die, MAGA will blame it on the ACA and continue to suck off Trump.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Allen. on July 22, 2025, 08:04:38 AM
Also, Trump's team clarified that Eptein killed himself and there is no client list....

Still don’t get why he doesn’t pardon Ghislaine for not trafficking kids to someone as that didn’t happen, according to that ‘logic,’ or killing her a la Epstein as any second of any day she rots in prison she could backstab him. It doesn’t make sense. It’s already exceedingly obvious that it’s a cover up at this point, and it has been that obvious. At this point why wouldn’t he go all the way with it?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on July 22, 2025, 10:10:44 AM
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Also, Trump's team clarified that Eptein killed himself and there is no client list....
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Still don’t get why he doesn’t pardon Ghislaine for not trafficking kids to someone as that didn’t happen, according to that ‘logic,’ or killing her a la Epstein as any second of any day she rots in prison she could backstab him. It doesn’t make sense. It’s already exceedingly obvious that it’s a cover up at this point, and it has been that obvious. At this point why wouldn’t he go all the way with it?

I would assume that pardoning would just show a coverup on his end, whereas trying to shift blame to Obama and Democrats would “exonerate” him in the eyes of his followers.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: GnarAlarm on July 22, 2025, 10:26:41 AM
A lot of my friends and family are convinced this is going to break the MAGA spell and he's going to lose tons of supporters/cult members. Ain't no way. The whole thing has been been performative bullshit to try to demonize and dehumanize anyone they hate by calling them the worst thing a person can be...

People who are overtly outspoken about hating pedos (e.g. right wingers up until just a few days ago) give me the creeps. It's like...yeah we know, everyone knows, they suck, nobody is arguing against that, everybody hates them, they get killed in prison for fucks sake.
So anytime someone's whole personality revolves around hating pedos I get sus about them and it makes me feel like there's more going on. I don't necessarily believe that all of them are trying to cover up their own pedo tendencies, but it makes me think you have something sketchy going on that's causing you to make a big show of patting yourself on the back for hating the most hated thing in the world. Weird way to "virtue signal".

They don't really give a fuck, maybe he'll lose 1% of his cult. Maybe.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on July 22, 2025, 11:12:08 AM
It's not going to change the MAGA perception one bit. They're already using Charlie Kirk, Dinesh, and other MAGA influencers to help spread the message that the "country is over it and needs to move on."

The narrative is also being spread via other, smaller MAGA influencers and social media bots.

I still firmly believe that a video can come out of Donald Trump balls deep into a crying child and his base will still defend him all before saying Biden is probably a pedo because he likes ice cream because what grown ass man likes ice cream that much.

Lastly, even if he was proven as a pedo, you just know for a fact that DOJ won't touch him. Congressional GOP won't impeach and/or remove him from office. And SCOTUS will protect him saying it was a presidential act even though all this stuff was way before he was president.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: GnarAlarm on July 22, 2025, 12:01:06 PM
Thanks to advancements in AI we can just say anything we don't like is a deepfake!
Woooo! Everything is going to be just great!
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on July 22, 2025, 12:43:54 PM
Thanks to advancements in AI we can just say anything we don't like is a deepfake!
Woooo! Everything is going to be just great!

Even before AI, everything GOP didn't like was doctored video.

When Marjorie "Threetoe" Greene was on trial to see if she could be allowed on the ballot due to her role with Capitol riot, ever piece of FB/YouTube video of her calling for civil war was met with her accusation that it's all doctored video by the leftists. Even if it was played off her YouTube channel and/or FB page.

Fucking insane.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on July 23, 2025, 06:17:25 PM
Justice Department told tRump in May his name is in the Epstein file multiple times.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5416848-wsj-doj-trump-epstein-files/

Nothing to see here. Don’t worry about Pedo President!
 Deep State Donald sure isn’t to bright. Remember the good old days when a blowjob was a bridge to far? Party of morals and conservatism my fucking ass. At least Kennedy had the brains to use the secret service to hide his shit.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: The Drew on July 23, 2025, 07:16:47 PM
can someone much smarter than me please explain how the US will retain profits for the below Japanese investment into the US

RESTORING AMERICAN INDUSTRIAL POWER: Japan will invest $550 billion directed by the United States to rebuild and expand core American industries.

    This is the single largest foreign investment commitment ever secured by any country and will generate hundreds of thousands of U.S. jobs, expand domestic manufacturing, and secure American prosperity for generations.
    At President Trump’s direction, these funds will be targeted toward the revitalization of America’s strategic industrial base, including:
        Energy infrastructure and production, including LNG, advanced fuels, and grid modernization;
        Semiconductor manufacturing and research, rebuilding U.S. capacity from design to fabrication;
        Critical minerals mining, processing, and refining, ensuring access to essential inputs;
        Pharmaceutical and medical production, ending U.S. dependence on foreign-made medicines and supplies;
        Commercial and defense shipbuilding, including new yards and modernization of existing facilities.

    The United States will retain 90% of the profits from this investment—ensuring that American workers, taxpayers, and communities reap the overwhelming share of the benefit.

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Shitbag on July 24, 2025, 11:11:13 AM
New South Park season premiere is incredible, Trump takedown is wild.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Afetnw70S04&pp
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: BOILED ANGEL on July 24, 2025, 12:06:49 PM
can someone much smarter than me please explain how the US will retain profits for the below Japanese investment into the US

RESTORING AMERICAN INDUSTRIAL POWER: Japan will invest $550 billion directed by the United States to rebuild and expand core American industries.

    This is the single largest foreign investment commitment ever secured by any country and will generate hundreds of thousands of U.S. jobs, expand domestic manufacturing, and secure American prosperity for generations.
    At President Trump’s direction, these funds will be targeted toward the revitalization of America’s strategic industrial base, including:
        Energy infrastructure and production, including LNG, advanced fuels, and grid modernization;
        Semiconductor manufacturing and research, rebuilding U.S. capacity from design to fabrication;
        Critical minerals mining, processing, and refining, ensuring access to essential inputs;
        Pharmaceutical and medical production, ending U.S. dependence on foreign-made medicines and supplies;
        Commercial and defense shipbuilding, including new yards and modernization of existing facilities.

    The United States will retain 90% of the profits from this investment—ensuring that American workers, taxpayers, and communities reap the overwhelming share of the benefit.

i don't think there's a plan man
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on July 24, 2025, 03:25:34 PM
can someone much smarter than me please explain how the US will retain profits for the below Japanese investment into the US

RESTORING AMERICAN INDUSTRIAL POWER: Japan will invest $550 billion directed by the United States to rebuild and expand core American industries.

    This is the single largest foreign investment commitment ever secured by any country and will generate hundreds of thousands of U.S. jobs, expand domestic manufacturing, and secure American prosperity for generations.
    At President Trump’s direction, these funds will be targeted toward the revitalization of America’s strategic industrial base, including:
        Energy infrastructure and production, including LNG, advanced fuels, and grid modernization;
        Semiconductor manufacturing and research, rebuilding U.S. capacity from design to fabrication;
        Critical minerals mining, processing, and refining, ensuring access to essential inputs;
        Pharmaceutical and medical production, ending U.S. dependence on foreign-made medicines and supplies;
        Commercial and defense shipbuilding, including new yards and modernization of existing facilities.

    The United States will retain 90% of the profits from this investment—ensuring that American workers, taxpayers, and communities reap the overwhelming share of the benefit.

Lip service to morons so they don’t get upset that U.S. Steel is now 100% owned by Nippon Steel.
 You know, the sale PRESIDENT PEDO was dead set against before he got elected.

MERICA!!!!
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on July 25, 2025, 05:18:48 PM
This is fucking hilarious:

HOW I CAME TO BE IN THE EPSTEIN FILES
A conspiracy wrapped in a conspiracy theory wrapped in an enigma

By Alexandra Petri

 I was taking soup to the orphans, as usual, when a young man I’d never before met seized me by the arm. “Donald,” he said. “My name is Barack Obama, although that’s not important right now. In fact, you’ve already forgotten it. Before I matriculate at Harvard Law School, I must introduce you to someone who’s going to change your life.”

I looked at my watch. It was 1987.

“Who?” I asked.
“A man with whom you have nothing in common,” the mysterious figure went on. “Not one single thing. Not even enigmas. His name is Jeffrey.”
“Great!” I said. I loved to be introduced to people, in case they could help me with the orphans or connect me to a good sackcloth dealer. I was wearing a lot of sackcloth at that time, out of humility. I put down the biography of William McKinley that I had been reading in order to learn whether tariffs were good or bad. I had hoped that I could read it to the orphans, after we finished with the soup. But that could wait. “Please, introduce me.”

Thus began almost two decades of association that were nothing but miserable for me. I don’t know if you have any friends with whom you have nothing in common, but that was how it was with me and this guy. I assume! I never found out what he did, or how exactly he made his money, or even what his interests were. I would look at him and think, What a head of hair! “Even better than William McKinley’s!” I would mouth silently to myself. Then I would notice that, below the hair, his mouth was moving, and I’d try to guess what he had been saying, so that I could answer appropriately. Usually, I would just laugh and say, “You know that’s right!”
“You’re a pal,” Jeffrey would tell me. I wondered if I really was a pal. I spent so little time understanding what he had to say, and so much time lost in my own world, thinking about William McKinley and wondering what tariffs were. Tariffs—what a beautiful sound that word has. Tariff: the tip of the tongue taking a trip from the glorious Ta to the explosion of riff!
Again and again, my new friend would drag me to parties that I had no interest in attending. I was miserable. I sat in the front row at the Victoria’s Secret fashion show with my biography of William McKinley open on my lap. But it was hard to read in the dark room, and I was not getting to the part that explained what tariffs were as fast as I would have liked.
“I don’t want to go to another of Jeffrey’s island soirees,” I complained at one point. “I just want to stay in and read up about tariffs. I don’t feel that I understand them yet.” Everybody knows how much I love reading and how zealously I guard my reading time.
“No,” the mysterious man said. “It’s very important that you attend these parties. We need you in pictures. It’s for the conspiracy.”
I could tell the conspiracy was very important to him, so I always wound up going.
“Come on the plane,” Jeffrey said once. “It’s called the Lolita Express.”
“Sure,” I said. This was the most excited I had been in some time. I had no idea that Jeffrey also loved Nabokov. “I love a literary classic with an unreliable narrator.”
On the plane, I was disappointed. I searched it up and down for books to read but did not find any. Not even The Art of Translation!
“You should call your next plane the Ada, or Ardor: A Family-Chronicle Express,” I suggested. Jeffrey didn’t laugh. Now that I think back, I am beginning to doubt that Jeffrey had even read Lolita!
Jeffrey claims I met Melania on his plane, but I am certain I was with the orphans that week. Once I asked Melania about it.
“Have you ever been on that plane?” I asked. “Is that where we met? I don’t think that would have been how.”
She shrugged. “Could be. I do a lot of conspiracy things, what with all the body doubles. What do you remember?”
“I remember approaching you. I said, ‘I respect women too much to have any sense of what you look like physically, but there is something about your soul that makes me think of tariffs.’ And then you said, ‘Oh, no.’ And I said, ‘No, it’s good. Tariff is the most beautiful word in the English language.’”

“That does sound more like you,” she said.

Jeffrey kept inviting me to parties or, worse, urging me to throw parties of my own with themes that he suggested. I didn’t want to, but never told him so. That would have been impolite.
“I’m having a party,” I told Jeffrey once. “The theme is respect for women. I respect women so much that I feel bad even singling them out to say that I respect them, because really they’re just people. It’s a party about that, and I’d like you to be there.”
“That’s not a good theme,” he said. “Do a different theme instead.” So we did Jeffrey’s theme. I was very unhappy about it. We were the only two people there. I spent the whole party in the corner with my book about William McKinley, trying to get to the tariff part. I didn’t, though. It was too loud.

The mysterious man who introduced me to Jeffrey in the first place came back in roughly 2002. He had a book for Jeffrey that he wanted me to sign. “Do a picture,” he suggested.
“But,” I said, “I never write a picture.”
“It’s okay,” he said. He had an autopen with him. “I always carry this, for conspiracy reasons.” He used the pen to make a very obscene doodle and then pointed for me to sign my name to it. There was text above it.
“What does the text say?” I asked. “It doesn’t imply I share a creepy secret with this man, does it? I am beginning to think that he is not on the level, and I wouldn’t like to have it in writing that we had shared a creepy secret if, say, he were later revealed to be a terrible pedophile.”
“It says, ‘I love tariffs!’” the man said.
“Great,” I said. I signed it enthusiastically.

Over the years, the man kept coming to me and asking me to pose for pictures or make incriminating videotapes “for the files.” I should have asked more about the files, now that I think about it. “What are the files for?” I should have said. But he was clearly so passionate about them that I did not want to rain on his parade. When pressed, he said, “Conspiracies to do with the 2016 election,” or, “Conspiracies to do with the 2020 election,” or, “Conspiracies generally,” or, “Ask Dan Bongino.”
“We’re going to put all of this into files,” he explained. “Reams and reams of really damning stuff. And then we’re going to keep them secret. And you need to keep asking for them. Don’t take no for an answer.”

“This conspiracy confuses me,” I said. “You have spent decades painstakingly assembling this file, but you also will hide it from everyone, and I have to ask for it to be released?”
“Yes,” he said. “But then you have to stop asking for it to be released. Abruptly, and as suspiciously as you can. Indeed, if Congress shows any interest in having it released, have the speaker of the House shut them down for the summer.”
“But,” I said, “why would Congress listen to me?”
“He’ll listen,” the man said, and winked. “You’ll be the president, although many of the people who voted for you will be people who have felt for a long time that there is a secret conspiracy of elite pedophiles and that you are the one to help them blow it wide open. So they might not be happy when you start calling the files ‘boring.’”

“Why would they care so much?”
“The idea that there are secretly elite cabals of pedophiles wherever you look has been the stuff of conspiracy theories for years. Your supporters will be particularly interested in such things.” He paused. “But this time there’s an actual man preying on actual girls. That’ll be the horrible thing about this: a lurid conspiracy theory wrapped around real horrors that happened to real girls.” He got quiet for a moment.
I was thinking about something else. “You said I would be president,” I said, my voice hushed with wonder. “Can I do tariffs, as president? Like William McKinley did?”
He shrugged. “Sure, I guess. Is that really your only question about this?”
I nodded. “Tariffs are all I think about.” I halted for a moment. “And they’re—they’re a good idea, right? Tariffs?”

“Are they a good idea? Are they a good idea?” He laughed. “Why, you might as well ask if there is reason to cast doubt on the legitimacy of my birth certificate!”
I frowned. “Is there?” He didn’t answer. “Is there?”
But he had already vanished into the parking lot, clutching his precious files.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on July 25, 2025, 11:12:15 PM
It really is amazing what you can accomplish when you have no morals or sense of right or wrong.

Will Trump pardon Maxwell for a curated list of clients that excludes Trump and her refusal to ever name Trump as an obvious Epstien co-abuser? I'd bet on it.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on August 01, 2025, 06:19:40 PM
lol, we are well on our way of having unreliable statistics like China or the Soviet Union. Fucking Trump reminds me of Stalin, thin skinned, and love to bets on the loyal and stupid instead of the competent.

(https://i.ibb.co/7tzxBZDD/Screenshot-2025-08-01-at-6-15-53-PM.png)
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mr. Pickles on August 11, 2025, 05:08:50 PM
Military takeover of DC. He’s never leaving office.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on August 11, 2025, 05:41:21 PM
We’re gonna see Progressives he doesn’t like get jailed next.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on August 12, 2025, 01:27:55 PM
It is amazing how easily everything spirals.

Attacks on independent media. meh
Attacks on norms and laws in the government. meh
Attacks on the capitol. meh
Overt corruption. meh
Taking over an entire city's police due to made up crime wave claims. meh

People in 100 years are going to ask not only "what the fuck was wrong with these people? they kept polluting even though they knew it was killing the planet?" but "what the fuck was the avg American doing? Why didn't they stand up in any meaningful way?"

Well, because they were living paycheck to paycheck, exhausted, and ignoring the obvious as they scrambled to achieve a sense of stability they should have achieved a decade earlier in their lives.

I feel fascism is the easiest system to sell people. It promises a "free-market" and "freedom" with the image of a strong authority figure protecting them from evil. Also, there is a lot of power in be a sensitive spoiled child. Most people let things go, but being a complete lunatic and pathetically weak individual causes people to lash out in ways that offers power.


lol, glad Biden invested in the Texas/Arkansas border. Biden poured money into this region. Created new jobs. Expanded the local economy by 1/4th and they still rushed to support team Trump. Their is honor in supporting and having compassion for those that disagree with you, but there is no point in propping up people who keep shooting themselves in the foot.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/12/opinion/liberalism-texarkana-economy-democracy.html
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on August 12, 2025, 02:13:05 PM
It is amazing how easily everything spirals.

Attacks on independent media. meh
Attacks on norms and laws in the government. meh
Attacks on the capitol. meh
Overt corruption. meh
Taking over an entire city's police due to made up crime wave claims. meh

People in 100 years are going to ask not only "what the fuck was wrong with these people? they kept polluting even though they knew it was killing the planet?" but "what the fuck was the avg American doing? Why didn't they stand up in any meaningful way?"

Well, because they were living paycheck to paycheck, exhausted, and ignoring the obvious as they scrambled to achieve a sense of stability they should have achieved a decade earlier in their lives.

I feel fascism is the easiest system to sell people. It promises a "free-market" and "freedom" with the image of a strong authority figure protecting them from evil. Also, there is a lot of power in be a sensitive spoiled child. Most people let things go, but being a complete lunatic and pathetically weak individual causes people to lash out in ways that offers power.


lol, glad Biden invested in the Texas/Arkansas border. Biden poured money into this region. Created new jobs. Expanded the local economy by 1/4th and they still rushed to support team Trump. Their is honor in supporting and having compassion for those that disagree with you, but there is no point in propping up people who keep shooting themselves in the foot.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/12/opinion/liberalism-texarkana-economy-democracy.html


I will say he couldn’t do that to any other city.   It is DCs weird structure.   Kinda like how they’re still the only Americans who are Taxed without Representation
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: prettyeasytoday on August 12, 2025, 02:17:18 PM
lol, glad Biden invested in the Texas/Arkansas border. Biden poured money into this region. Created new jobs. Expanded the local economy by 1/4th and they still rushed to support team Trump. Their is honor in supporting and having compassion for those that disagree with you, but there is no point in propping up people who keep shooting themselves in the foot.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/12/opinion/liberalism-texarkana-economy-democracy.html

This was the main danger of swapping Harris in for Biden so late. She couldn't run on Biden's accomplishments because of how low his popularity was/how terrible he was at the debate/how much people wanted change and she didn't have many of her own political accomplishments to tout separate from being Biden's VP. Not defending those voters at all but they didn't have the option to vote for Biden twice.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on August 12, 2025, 06:04:55 PM
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lol, glad Biden invested in the Texas/Arkansas border. Biden poured money into this region. Created new jobs. Expanded the local economy by 1/4th and they still rushed to support team Trump. Their is honor in supporting and having compassion for those that disagree with you, but there is no point in propping up people who keep shooting themselves in the foot.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/12/opinion/liberalism-texarkana-economy-democracy.html
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This was the main danger of swapping Harris in for Biden so late. She couldn't run on Biden's accomplishments because of how low his popularity was/how terrible he was at the debate/how much people wanted change and she didn't have many of her own political accomplishments to tout separate from being Biden's VP. Not defending those voters at all but they didn't have the option to vote for Biden twice.


It’s the challenge for the Dems POTUS always : have to spend so much time fixing the Republican POTUS mess that people associate them with it, then the R POTUS gets to live off the results of the Dem efforts that have finally come home to roost before set in motion plans that will fuck it up for the next Democrat
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on August 12, 2025, 08:40:52 PM
We’re gonna see Progressives anyone he doesn’t like get jailed next.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mr. Kamikazi on August 13, 2025, 09:04:37 AM
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We’re gonna see Progressives anyone he doesn’t like get jailed next.
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This.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Scab Picker on August 14, 2025, 09:47:11 AM
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We’re gonna see Progressives anyone he doesn’t like get jailed next.
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This.
I’ve been getting followed and filmed by middle-aged obese guys who look like mall Santas in unmarked Ford pickup trucks. I don’t skate street, do drugs, or break any laws. The only thing I can think of is liking posts that are anti Trump and Netanyahu. I get followed for like five minutes when leaving parking lots, until they get sick of me driving the speed limit, and then switch lanes so they can go 60 mph in a 40 mph zone.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Ginger on August 14, 2025, 10:33:18 AM
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We’re gonna see Progressives anyone he doesn’t like get jailed next.
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This.
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I’ve been getting followed and filmed by middle-aged obese guys who look like mall Santas in unmarked Ford pickup trucks. I don’t skate street, do drugs, or break any laws. The only thing I can think of is liking posts that are anti Trump and Netanyahu. I get followed for like five minutes when leaving parking lots, until they get sick of me driving the speed limit, and then switch lanes so they can go 60 mph in a 40 mph zone.
You have schizophrenia big dawg. Tell a doctor about the people following you before it gets worse
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on August 14, 2025, 11:40:51 AM
So, Ghislane Maxwell was approved for work release. Get last job was trafficking kids. But what’s the over/under that she’ll be killed in a work accident and/or that with minimal supervision, she’ll simply hop onto a plane to a place with no extradition?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on August 14, 2025, 09:47:31 PM
So, Ghislane Maxwell was approved for work release. Get last job was trafficking kids. But what’s the over/under that she’ll be killed in a work accident and/or that with minimal supervision, she’ll simply hop onto a plane to a place with no extradition?

I don't think there is evidence for her being on work release.

But, Trump meddling directly into her legal battles is wrong. Dude was friends with Epstein for years, he brags about going back stage at Miss Teen USA, and sexually assaulting women. It it is reasonable to believe he was part of the whole game and will give her favors to keep her quiet.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Top-Heavy Hookjaw on August 19, 2025, 09:53:24 AM
So the same bozo who votes by mail from his Florida estate wants to do away with mail in ballots…

https://www.npr.org/2025/08/18/nx-s1-5506210/trump-mail-in-ballots-ban
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on August 19, 2025, 07:43:31 PM
Boy America sure is winning with Dicktater Dipshit at the helm!
About 300 to be let go from John Deere thanks to those beautiful tariffs! American jobs are back baby? Oh, those were American jobs? No!

https://newrepublic.com/post/199266/donald-trump-tariffs-agriculture-john-deere-mass-layoffs
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: h00man on August 20, 2025, 07:37:30 PM
David from Bluetile did an excellent video regarding small shops and tariffs (near the end):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpS4HHc1nyY
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on August 20, 2025, 11:03:50 PM
Sony is raising prices. I've been thinking about getting a PlayStation for months. It seems like a waste of money, but it would be nice to have.

https://blog.playstation.com/2025/08/20/playstation-5-price-changes-in-the-u-s/
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on August 22, 2025, 09:05:32 AM
So, Kash Patel and the FBI were too busy to look into and/or release anything on the Epstein files but they free enough to raid the home of someone Trump doesn't like.

Another step into the world of fascism, people.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: tuesday on August 22, 2025, 11:45:03 AM
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/08/improving-our-nation-through-better-design/
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on August 22, 2025, 08:48:39 PM
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/08/improving-our-nation-through-better-design/
Re-designing of government websites isn't a horrible idea, it is just horrible that this will be an opportunity to censor and delete many things. Treasury Direct needed to be redone 25 years ago. It is barely better than a geo-cities website.

This is a good tracker of Project2025 related changes:
https://www.project2025.observer/en
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: MusclesMarinara on August 23, 2025, 08:21:24 AM
So, Kash Patel and the FBI were too busy to look into and/or release anything on the Epstein files but they free enough to raid the home of someone Trump doesn't like.

Another step into the world of fascism, people.

Biden’s administration sat on their fucking hands for 4 years with Epstein’s files and did nothing with them. They literally did the same thing to Trump as he’s doing to Bolton now? Are they fascist as well? Or is it only when Trump does it?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on August 23, 2025, 08:44:19 AM
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So, Kash Patel and the FBI were too busy to look into and/or release anything on the Epstein files but they free enough to raid the home of someone Trump doesn't like.

Another step into the world of fascism, people.
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Biden’s administration sat on their fucking hands for 4 years with Epstein’s files and did nothing with them. They literally did the same thing to Trump as he’s doing to Bolton now? Are they fascist as well? Or is it only when Trump does it?

Remember when they also investigated Biden’s garage whilst he was president?   That’s a key difference. 

The difference with Bolton is I’m sure he doesn’t have a documented history of lax security with phones, discussing sensitive matters in public spaces, and removing files he shouldnt have and then stashed them in an unsecured bathroom.   

Have you honestly missed the part where Trump is purging anyone who’s ever worked against him (FBI agents doesn’t choose what cases they work on) from the government and seeking to punish people in the private sector who ever worked against him?

Tell me you’re not that thick that you can’t tell the difference between one president (but actually his justice department) and one president who uses his justice department as a cudgel
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Sack on August 23, 2025, 09:23:38 AM
Nah I vote Democrat but you guys are on some wack cult shit and it's super annoying
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on August 23, 2025, 11:53:47 AM
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So, Kash Patel and the FBI were too busy to look into and/or release anything on the Epstein files but they free enough to raid the home of someone Trump doesn't like.

Another step into the world of fascism, people.
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Biden’s administration sat on their fucking hands for 4 years with Epstein’s files and did nothing with them. They literally did the same thing to Trump as he’s doing to Bolton now? Are they fascist as well? Or is it only when Trump does it?

You’re leaving out the part where tRump sat on this for 2 years when he was first in office. Why did he sit on them?
As for the ‘fascist only when tRump’ comment. No, both major parties have that tendency. But, using the government to go after people who stand up or say anything you don’t agree with is fucking 100% fascism. This is exactly what durp is doing now. Don’t worry though, he’s going to be going after republicans and he will 100% take firearms away from people. If you dont believe that, fine, but this is how fascist regimes work. Take a look around the world.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mongo Lloyd on August 23, 2025, 12:07:44 PM
Muscles locked into that Russian whatsboutism type of bad faith argument.

I feel like I can perfectly envision the social media feeds he consumes.

You a Theo Von fan Muscles?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Sack on August 23, 2025, 12:53:28 PM
^Dudes like this are why trump won

Drumpf! Fascism!

Shut the fuck up lmao
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Billy Bitchcakes on August 23, 2025, 01:04:58 PM
^Dudes like this are why trump won

Drumpf! Fascism!

Shut the fuck up lmao

Can you explain what fascism means?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mongo Lloyd on August 23, 2025, 01:15:19 PM
^Dudes like this are why trump won

Drumpf! Fascism!

Shut the fuck up lmao

Insecure young men, propaganda and severe lack of education is why Trump won, you absolute fuckstick.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Sack on August 23, 2025, 01:49:27 PM
Nope. People sided with rednecks in red hats over whatever chronichly online bullshit you guys are on

It's not to late to change you don't have to double down and fight it
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on August 23, 2025, 01:57:46 PM
Nope. People sided with rednecks in red hats over whatever chronichly online bullshit you guys are on

It's not to late to change you don't have to double down and fight it

Learn your history.
 Rednecks are Irish immigrant miners. They are also PRO UNION. The thing that the president is actively try to break up.
Don’t call tRump voters rednecks. They’re not.
Any fucking person that voted for him and has a union job needs booted and treated like a scab.
Actually, they’re worse than a scab.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: EdLawndale on August 26, 2025, 12:17:29 AM
Honestly, this p.o.s. and everybody who voted for him, or didn't vote at all, can go to hell. It just gets worse and worse every day.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: S. on August 26, 2025, 01:14:17 AM
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So, Kash Patel and the FBI were too busy to look into and/or release anything on the Epstein files but they free enough to raid the home of someone Trump doesn't like.

Another step into the world of fascism, people.
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Biden’s administration sat on their fucking hands for 4 years with Epstein’s files and did nothing with them. They literally did the same thing to Trump as he’s doing to Bolton now? Are they fascist as well? Or is it only when Trump does it?


That is whataboutism. Of course it would be just as bad if Biden had further destroyed the social state while giving tax cuts to the rich and investing billions in the military and in ICE. It would have also been fucked up had he ignored the courts and put government pressure on education. I would have called him a fascist if he had done that. The fascist ist doing all of that. He‘s also made political corruption even worse than it already was under the Biden administration.

Do you care? Or do you just want to repeat propaganda you have read on social media?

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on August 26, 2025, 09:32:55 AM
I laugh every time I read a "Gen Z is regretting their vote for Trump" articles.

Like yea, y'all fell for influencer propaganda about how Kamala isn't perfect so she doesn't deserve to be president, but the dude with criminal and rape convictions gives off better vibes so he's perfect for presidency.

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: WashingtonNECKTIE on August 26, 2025, 02:09:29 PM
I'm surprised burning a Trump flag wasn't deemed illegal by EO
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on August 26, 2025, 02:55:42 PM
I'm surprised burning a Trump flag wasn't deemed illegal by EO

I'm surprised he hasn't signed an EO that recognized the Trump flag as the new official flag of America.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: augustmoon on August 26, 2025, 03:42:28 PM
Nah I vote Democrat but you guys are on some wack cult shit and it's super annoying

You’re a fucking dumbass
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Sack on August 26, 2025, 04:14:49 PM
You guys can't even handle trump voters posting on the site lmao
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on August 26, 2025, 04:38:51 PM
You guys can't even handle trump voters posting on the site lmao

Weird way to say that you stand with fascism and pedophilia.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Sack on August 26, 2025, 04:50:58 PM
What a smart and grounded in reality comment. Lol you guys are in the same class of human as right wing conspiracy schizos
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on August 26, 2025, 05:01:19 PM
What a smart and grounded in reality comment. Lol you guys are in the same class of human as right wing conspiracy schizos

If you support pedophiles, you're also a pedophile. Not a conspiracy. Just a simple deduction.

I also assume I used too many big words for you, so let me bring it to your intellect level:

You like kid fuckers, you too, are a kid fucker.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Sack on August 26, 2025, 05:08:09 PM
Boomer thinks he cooking right now
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mongo Lloyd on August 26, 2025, 05:10:56 PM
Boomer thinks he cooking right now

Your mom’s clit is bigger than Trump’s dick.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Sack on August 26, 2025, 05:16:36 PM
Oh cool a stalker
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mongo Lloyd on August 26, 2025, 05:21:19 PM
Confirmation that she can tie it in knot?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Sack on August 26, 2025, 05:34:03 PM
Spread em!
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mongo Lloyd on August 26, 2025, 05:48:55 PM
Only for your mom’s tongue.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on August 26, 2025, 06:13:51 PM
Boomer thinks he cooking right now

Idiot thinks they’re making a point other than confirming they support fascism and fucking kids.

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: FrAnKenFrEd on August 26, 2025, 07:41:02 PM
You guys can't even handle trump voters posting on the site lmao

Correct. Get fucked.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: noxiousPond on August 26, 2025, 10:52:22 PM
Wow great discussion here. Good job falling for this dumbasses posts. Dude literally has a negative rep for every post. Just ignore the fool.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Sack on August 27, 2025, 05:06:32 AM
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You guys can't even handle trump voters posting on the site lmao
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Correct. Get fucked.
But it seems we are the ones that "got fucked"

I wonder why?

Probably nothing to do with this elitest attitude tho so you guys are good just keep acting like this im sure we'll win next time
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: JANUS on August 27, 2025, 06:29:19 AM
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You guys can't even handle trump voters posting on the site lmao
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Correct. Get fucked.
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But it seems we are the ones that "got fucked"

I wonder why?

Probably nothing to do with this elitest attitude tho so you guys are good just keep acting like this im sure we'll win next time

(https://i.imgur.com/ugq1nkV.jpeg)
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: mongoswongofongo on August 27, 2025, 08:40:37 AM
Wow great discussion here. Good job falling for this dumbasses posts. Dude literally has a negative rep for every post. Just ignore the fool.

There's a handful of trolls posting prolifically lately, and it's 100% because people keep engaging with them. I have to imagine people know it's obvious bait, so I think they're just unable to hold themselves back from trying to dunk on em anyway.

Throwing them all on ignore has improved my personal slapping experience tenfold.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Undeadwingsoflove on August 27, 2025, 06:21:54 PM
I’m running for president of USA
First ever
Hey Donald rump how bout I stomp u and your whole family on wwe fat boy
Oh what that yanggang? Ya fuck you that’s never going to happen and he’s a dumbass
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: brycickle on August 29, 2025, 12:30:11 PM
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Boomer thinks he cooking right now
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Your mom’s clit is bigger than Trump’s dick.

What he's trying to say is, your mom is Harold Hunter.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: h00man on August 30, 2025, 06:14:29 PM
What are the chances that this is an old photo?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tylerroush/2025/08/30/is-trump-dead-rumors-debunked-as-trump-seen-leaving-for-golf/
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: whale on August 31, 2025, 12:27:54 AM
Huge.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: skater0000 on August 31, 2025, 04:25:32 PM
I live in DC and the whole national guard presence is definitely weird.
There have also been lots of illegal searches that got thrown out in court because of how they were conducted.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on August 31, 2025, 04:58:02 PM
I live in DC and the whole national guard presence is definitely weird.
There have also been lots of illegal searches that got thrown out in court because of how they were conducted.

Sandwich man went free!


Also, just heard the NG is under 29 day calls instead of 30 which means they’re getting fucked pay-wise and housing wise
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on August 31, 2025, 05:09:49 PM
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I live in DC and the whole national guard presence is definitely weird.
There have also been lots of illegal searches that got thrown out in court because of how they were conducted.
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Sandwich man went free!


Also, just heard the NG is under 29 day calls instead of 30 which means they’re getting fucked pay-wise and housing wise

Yep. Some might be called back on day 32, giving them a two day gap and needing another 30 straight days of service before they get paid.

So yep, again, Taco Man showing how he cares about the military.

Why service people keep voting for him, I don't know why?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on August 31, 2025, 08:44:41 PM
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I live in DC and the whole national guard presence is definitely weird.
There have also been lots of illegal searches that got thrown out in court because of how they were conducted.
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Sandwich man went free!


Also, just heard the NG is under 29 day calls instead of 30 which means they’re getting fucked pay-wise and housing wise

To be fair tRumps rarely ever paid any of his subcontractors or most employees that aren’t directly in his business. Those 5 bankruptcies he had, take a guess why.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: augustmoon on September 04, 2025, 08:53:58 AM
I think it’s undeniable at this point that Republicans are instituting a eugenics program in our country.  The “bad guys” are going to win. 
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: GnarAlarm on September 04, 2025, 10:04:35 AM
I think it’s undeniable at this point that Republicans are instituting a eugenics program in our country.  The “bad guys” are going to win.

I firmly believe that if Trump dies the whole thing crumbles.
Vance has the charisma of a damp paper sack filled with soiled cat litter.
Vance could never bully the media and other politicians (both right and left) the way Trump can cause Vance doesn't have shooters (literally and figuratively) like Trump does. Ain't nobody on Earth ready to die or do jail time for Vance.
 
My guess is if Trump dies the neo-fascist grip on the American right loosens significantly.
There'll still be a lot of fascists in the right wing, but I'd guess they're at very least start putting their masks back on.

Maybe wishful thinking but I believe it for now.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Top-Heavy Hookjaw on September 04, 2025, 10:40:12 AM
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I live in DC and the whole national guard presence is definitely weird.
There have also been lots of illegal searches that got thrown out in court because of how they were conducted.
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Sandwich man went free!


Also, just heard the NG is under 29 day calls instead of 30 which means they’re getting fucked pay-wise and housing wise
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To be fair tRumps rarely ever paid any of his subcontractors or most employees that aren’t directly in his business. Those 5 bankruptcies he had, take a guess why.

The NJ countryside is littered with ruined and bankrupt subcontractors that Trump stiffed on casino projects, my dad knew a few.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: WashingtonNECKTIE on September 04, 2025, 10:43:24 AM
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I think it’s undeniable at this point that Republicans are instituting a eugenics program in our country.  The “bad guys” are going to win.
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I firmly believe that if Trump dies the whole thing crumbles.
Vance has the charisma of a damp paper sack filled with soiled cat litter.
Vance could never bully the media and other politicians (both right and left) the way Trump can cause Vance doesn't have shooters (literally and figuratively) like Trump does. Ain't nobody on Earth ready to die or do jail time for Vance.
 
My guess is if Trump dies the neo-fascist grip on the American right loosens significantly.
There'll still be a lot of fascists in the right wing, but I'd guess they're at very least start putting their masks back on.

Maybe wishful thinking but I believe it for now.

I've been thinking about this, but I'm not fully convinced....

If that happens, the US might move back toward fascists being closeted, at least in public/on the streets - maybe.... but even if the culture moves to find an equilibrium, the ransacking, bastardization, and mutilation of the administrative state will continue. Likely even amplify. Yet without the uhh... showmanship.. of our current president, it somehow might be less blatant and more covert.

Trump is likely more of an obstruction from what I can tell. The powers that be outbid the US Govt and American people, and Trump was just the catalyst. Hate taking buzzwords, but the deep state the right wouldn't stop crying about is exactly what we saw being installed in the first half of 2025.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on September 04, 2025, 11:44:48 AM
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I think it’s undeniable at this point that Republicans are instituting a eugenics program in our country.  The “bad guys” are going to win.
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I firmly believe that if Trump dies the whole thing crumbles.
Vance has the charisma of a damp paper sack filled with soiled cat litter.
Vance could never bully the media and other politicians (both right and left) the way Trump can cause Vance doesn't have shooters (literally and figuratively) like Trump does. Ain't nobody on Earth ready to die or do jail time for Vance.
 
My guess is if Trump dies the neo-fascist grip on the American right loosens significantly.
There'll still be a lot of fascists in the right wing, but I'd guess they're at very least start putting their masks back on.

Maybe wishful thinking but I believe it for now.
[close]

I've been thinking about this, but I'm not fully convinced....

If that happens, the US might move back toward fascists being closeted, at least in public/on the streets - maybe.... but even if the culture moves to find an equilibrium, the ransacking, bastardization, and mutilation of the administrative state will continue. Likely even amplify. Yet without the uhh... showmanship.. of our current president, it somehow might be less blatant and more covert.

Trump is likely more of an obstruction from what I can tell. The powers that be outbid the US Govt and American people, and Trump was just the catalyst. Hate taking buzzwords, but the deep state the right wouldn't stop crying about is exactly what we saw being installed in the first half of 2025.


Someone said we need to do what Spain did to Franco loyalists after his reign.    Don’t remember what that was, but it sounded smart
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on September 04, 2025, 05:55:45 PM
Cross post but valid on both
(https://i.postimg.cc/XYjDWGfK/IMG-5947.png) (https://postimg.cc/gn7Kq0Br)
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on September 04, 2025, 06:02:22 PM
Let that sink in.

Republicans are saying they are for banning guns. ‘But my 2a rights!’
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on September 04, 2025, 10:22:56 PM
People forget that CA is no longer an open carry state because of an NRA led campaign backed by Reagan when he was governor. They led the ban on open carry because  the Black Panthers were armed and walking around Sacramento.

The NRA is for protecting gun rights for those who they deem the appropriate people to carry.

They fought to give those guilty of domestic violence back their gun rights as they believe felons being denied guns was against their 2A rights. But when Hunter Biden was faced with losing gun rights due to a felony they were quiet. As they are quiet about gun control for people they don’t like.

Edit: NRA just announced they're against Trump and DOJ's sweeping banning of guns for the transgender community. Glad they spoke and out and am actually a bit shocked that they did.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: h00man on September 05, 2025, 04:57:10 PM
lmao RFK is linking Tylenol to autism.

What a fucking joke of a cabinet
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on September 05, 2025, 05:01:02 PM
lmao RFK is linking Tylenol to autism.

What a fucking joke of a cabinet

How is the guy who never went to med school, did heroin for 12 years, and got brain worms from willingly eating roadkill our Health Secretary!?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: h00man on September 05, 2025, 06:08:45 PM
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lmao RFK is linking Tylenol to autism.

What a fucking joke of a cabinet
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How is the guy who never went to med school, did heroin for 12 years, and got brain worms from willingly eating roadkill our Health Secretary!?

Because RFK was promised a cabinet position if he dropped out of the presidential race to help trump get elected.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on September 05, 2025, 08:03:54 PM
@TastyBurrito Thanks I was unaware of the Mulford act so the heads up was good.
 It’s almost like they think the answer to possible gun violence(not by straight white Christian males) is a problem that can be dealt with by bans.
‘We need to arm school teachers to stop gun violence in schools!’
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on September 05, 2025, 08:37:18 PM
@TastyBurrito Thanks I was unaware of the Milford act so the heads up was good.
 It’s almost like they think the answer to possible gun violence(not by straight white Christian males) is a problem that can be dealt with by bans.
‘We need to arm school teachers to stop gun violence in schools!’

It’s always a fun fact to bring up when 2A fanatics bring up how libs are why we can’t have guns in CA.

Then I tell them that I believe in 2A but with sensible laws (like background checks and closing gunshow loopholes). I like going out and going shooting, I just don’t make guns my personality like most 2A nuts.

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: augustmoon on September 06, 2025, 05:04:48 PM
It’s time to stop pretending we’re not in an active civil war
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on September 07, 2025, 03:21:05 AM
These occupations of cities with federal troops is nightmare fuel. I feel half the country is preparing for the Spanish Civil War: Trump Edition and the other half is--like Ukraine prior to Russia invading--lying to themselves that it won't happen.

Militarization of the police since the LA bank robbery has been scary, bringing the war machine to war against Americans is terrifying. Having cabinet members lick Trump's nuts is N. Korea level of dictatorial praise developed from the fear of those around him, they know their place in society being above the law and the rules is reliant on his whims. The money being pumped into his pockets will outshine Putin's theft from the Russians. And, the right-wing media detaching from reality has become more than just an annoyance. The WSJ is no longer right-wing enough for Trump.

There Democrats have to decide if they want to shut down the government in three weeks. They have to decide if they vote for his budget or if they grow a pair and fight back.

Robocop 2014 was panned critically, but I feel it was much scarier than many realized and much more relevant. Samuel L Jackson's character made the movie and was the scariest part.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPLSpmAtc1Q
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: radcunt on September 07, 2025, 07:46:13 PM
It's crazy to think he's only been president for 30 days!
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: prettyeasytoday on September 08, 2025, 07:28:32 AM
These occupations of cities with federal troops is nightmare fuel.

there is one thing all these cities have in common
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on September 09, 2025, 02:45:04 PM
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These occupations of cities with federal troops is nightmare fuel.
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there is one thing all these cities have in common

That they’re lucky you don’t live there?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Big Skatefase on September 10, 2025, 12:21:11 PM
Holy shit, Charlie Kirk got shot in the neck
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on September 10, 2025, 12:24:58 PM
Holy shit, Charlie Kirk got shot in the neck

Oh no…anyways
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Fongstarr. on September 10, 2025, 12:39:40 PM
ADMIN NOTE: DON"T POST THIS VIDEO
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: rawbertson. on September 10, 2025, 12:41:55 PM
Damn that was gnar bucket
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: GnarAlarm on September 10, 2025, 12:46:22 PM
Jesus fucking Christ he dead

I'm nervous about what the right's reaction to this will be. But, I guess not much happened after Trump's ear didn't get shot so hopefully nothing major.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: JANUS on September 10, 2025, 12:47:25 PM
Just a heads up, you shouldn’t click that insta link if you’re not up for seeing someone get shot.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: h00man on September 10, 2025, 12:47:48 PM
insane shit
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: botefdunn on September 10, 2025, 12:49:42 PM
yo @Fongstarr i aint mad atcha, but please maybe a trigger warning (no pun intended). im down for some political discussiin but not trying to see snuff videos over my morning coffee. Again, not mad, not that big a deal, but just a head's up woyld be appreciated.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Marion Stoked on September 10, 2025, 12:50:30 PM
Damn that was gnar bucket

...of blood.


Close-up video is brutal.


Also worried about the right's reaction. Cancel all AOC and Bernie appearances until further notice.

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on September 10, 2025, 12:56:50 PM
Guess it’s time to send the National Guard into the crime infested shithole of Utah!!! So much crime!!!
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: GnarAlarm on September 10, 2025, 01:00:13 PM
Apparently it was his "Prove Me Wrong" tour where, ironically, he is often defending 2A and condemning firearm restrictions of any kind. So...yeah...there's that
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on September 10, 2025, 01:06:01 PM
Apparently it was his "Prove Me Wrong" tour where, ironically, he is often defending 2A and condemning firearm restrictions of any kind. So...yeah...there's that

I would normally feel bad, but this dude has spread so much hate, viscera, and division in this country, I can’t help but just enjoy the irony of him being proved wrong about his 2A stance during his “Prove Me Wrong” tour. being
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: CocoSantiagosKitten on September 10, 2025, 01:06:54 PM
I wonder if he thinks he won the debate.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: fall colors on September 10, 2025, 01:18:09 PM
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Apparently it was his "Prove Me Wrong" tour where, ironically, he is often defending 2A and condemning firearm restrictions of any kind. So...yeah...there's that
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I would normally feel bad, but this dude has spread so much hate, viscera, and division in this country, I can’t help but just enjoy the irony of him being proved wrong about his 2A stance during his “Prove Me Wrong” tour. being

what do you guys know about the shooter? I can’t find any actual, specific information anywhere yet....
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: GnarAlarm on September 10, 2025, 01:20:03 PM
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Apparently it was his "Prove Me Wrong" tour where, ironically, he is often defending 2A and condemning firearm restrictions of any kind. So...yeah...there's that
[close]

I would normally feel bad, but this dude has spread so much hate, viscera, and division in this country, I can’t help but just enjoy the irony of him being proved wrong about his 2A stance during his “Prove Me Wrong” tour. being
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what do you guys know about the shooter? I can’t find any actual, specific information anywhere yet....

Old white guy. Looks kinda like Larry David
No name or info released as far as I've seen but the right wing sure is jumping to a shitload of conclusions already.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: gumsole on September 10, 2025, 01:26:35 PM
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Apparently it was his "Prove Me Wrong" tour where, ironically, he is often defending 2A and condemning firearm restrictions of any kind. So...yeah...there's that
[close]

I would normally feel bad, but this dude has spread so much hate, viscera, and division in this country, I can’t help but just enjoy the irony of him being proved wrong about his 2A stance during his “Prove Me Wrong” tour. being
[close]

what do you guys know about the shooter? I can’t find any actual, specific information anywhere yet....
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Old white guy. Looks kinda like Larry David
No name or info released as far as I've seen but the right wing sure is jumping to a shitload of conclusions already.

Apparently that bald white guy was not the shooter. News right now is stating nobody is in custody.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on September 10, 2025, 01:34:20 PM
Trump really doing everything he can to distract from the Epstein files.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Big Skatefase on September 10, 2025, 01:53:57 PM
Confirmed dead

https://www.tmz.com/2025/09/10/charlie-kirk-dead/
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: skateboardnorth on September 10, 2025, 02:17:27 PM
DONT POST
Damn, you are a fucking sick individual for posting that shit. 
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: bluntfullofmid on September 10, 2025, 02:20:41 PM
rest in piss charlie kirk
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on September 10, 2025, 02:27:28 PM
Kirk was a terrible terrible terrible person, but this is not the correct ending for him.

The attack on the ivies was the start of the anti-education agenda, dismantling education and turning our schools into fundamentalist religious indoctrination campus is going to be a priority and dialed up to 11 starting today. Liberty University, Grand Canyon, and Prager's stupid ass videos stand to gain the most from this.

Jesus fucking Christ he dead

I'm nervous about what the right's reaction to this will be. But, I guess not much happened after Trump's ear didn't get shot so hopefully nothing major.
The kooky kid who shot at Trump was one theirs or wasn't clearly left. They dropped it cause it didn't help their narrative to discuss the motivations of the shooter.


Finally, I find it interesting that Kirk pointed out other people's deaths were the price of liberty. I wonder if he still felt that way when it was his turn to be one of the costs.

How the administration will respond to this is obvious and it is in same rant about gun deaths being worth it. More guns, more police, and more state power against the people. Kirk incorrectly believed that we stopped shootings at airports with armed guards... rather the obvious of having unarmed TSA agents screen for guns airports.   
https://www.newsweek.com/charlie-kirk-says-gun-deaths-worth-it-2nd-amendment-1793113
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on September 10, 2025, 02:32:56 PM
The right will just claim the shooter was trans and FOX will just go with it and spread that lie.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on September 10, 2025, 02:58:16 PM
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How it started

How it’s going
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I don’t have a dog in this race living in Australia, but making memes about a man who was just killed is some sicko shit.

American here. He deserved this death and the rejoice that comes with it.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Paul Cicero on September 10, 2025, 03:23:18 PM
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How it started
(https://i.postimg.cc/NF396kyC/IMG-5526.jpg)

How it’s going
(https://i.postimg.cc/GhwZfs1k/IMG-5525.jpg)
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I don’t have a dog in this race living in Australia, but making memes about a man who was just killed is some sicko shit.
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Well I live in the dog race and this motherfucker was one of the worst hate mongers in the country who spent all his time spreading hate and fear to young kids that actually affected real people. This piece of shit said empathy is a liberal new age term and defended school shootings, so fuck what you have to say.

That all may be true, you still went to the trouble to make fun of a man who was just killed, and that’s not normal behaviour.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on September 10, 2025, 03:24:12 PM
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How it started

How it’s going
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I don’t have a dog in this race living in Australia, but making memes about a man who was just killed is some sicko shit.
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American here. He deserved this death and the rejoice that comes with it.
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Yeah despite how grim it is to witness, you kinda can’t help but be glad it happened to one of the people helping to provoke and spread ethno-fascism to young people in your country.

“It’s worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment”
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: GaryDahLegend on September 10, 2025, 03:33:01 PM
it's as if the complete abundance of nothing itself has tucked me in and kissed my cheek. i will sleep so well and at ease tonight.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: rawbertson. on September 10, 2025, 03:33:43 PM
“Prove me wrong” tour lmao
Should have been called “fuck around and find out” tour
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: backside_frontside on September 10, 2025, 03:39:40 PM
At least he died doing what he loved .
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mongo Lloyd on September 10, 2025, 03:47:09 PM
Rest in piss asshole!
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: h00man on September 10, 2025, 03:51:01 PM
fuck charlie kirk
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Top-Heavy Hookjaw on September 10, 2025, 04:06:52 PM
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/reactions-fatal-shooting-us-right-wing-activist-charlie-kirk-2025-09-10/

Bibi is sad…
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Allen. on September 10, 2025, 04:25:10 PM
Love this
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: augustmoon on September 10, 2025, 04:26:49 PM
We all should be careful about we post online right now. 
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: GrayCellGreen on September 10, 2025, 04:32:54 PM
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Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on September 10, 2025, 04:37:21 PM
President Taco Cuck orders flags to be flown at half-mast for that incel. Yet, he refused to have flags flown at half-mast for former President Jimmy Carter.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Blind Fisherman on September 10, 2025, 04:43:58 PM
Empathy and sorrow are reserved for those of whom did not spend their lives fomenting hatred and vitriol. You don’t get to live a peaceful life if you spend it spewing vile bullshit.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: skateboardnorth on September 10, 2025, 04:52:10 PM
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I don’t have a dog in this race living in Australia, but making memes about a man who was just killed is some sicko shit.
  Yeah, it's scary as an outsider seeing how extreme people are in the United States.  They are at each other's throats.  It's some sort of sick game they are playing.  Wild how posting videos of someone getting killed is normal to an American.  I guess all the mass shootings have really desensitized the population there.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on September 10, 2025, 04:58:28 PM
Empathy and sorrow are reserved for those of whom did not spend their lives fomenting hatred and vitriol. You don’t get to live a peaceful life if you spend it spewing vile bullshit.

Gummy smile fuck boy literally preached about the dangers of empathy and how that’s a gateway to woke ideology. Literally his words were, “I think empathy is a new age term that does a lot of damage.”

So, you’re right. He doesn’t deserve empathy because he was vehemently against it.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: apport on September 10, 2025, 05:12:45 PM
We all should be careful about we post online right now.
right

like yeah this dude sucks rot in piss and whatever but there’s really nothing worth celebrating here
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mongo Lloyd on September 10, 2025, 05:16:43 PM
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right

like yeah this dude sucks rot in piss and whatever but there’s really nothing worth celebrating here

I don’t think anyone is celebrating, just acknowledging that nothing of real value was lost.

He’s done a lot of damage to many minds, and made direct attacks on empathetic ways of thinking.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on September 10, 2025, 05:34:26 PM
Stop wasting breath on that piece of human waste.
 
How about we focus on the innocent children that died in Colorado in yet another school shooting today.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Cuban_Lynx on September 10, 2025, 05:38:39 PM
Don’t click if you don’t want the close up. Fucking brutal.

DON"T POST THIS VIDEO : ADMIN NOTE
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mongo Lloyd on September 10, 2025, 05:39:37 PM
Stop wasting breath on that piece of human waste.
 
How about we focus on the innocent children that died in Colorado in yet another school shooting today.

Amen!
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on September 10, 2025, 05:43:50 PM
This isn't good for anyone. It isn't the correct way to deal with this guy or people like him.

It isn't going to undo his horrible organizations. It isn't going to undo the harm he caused. And, it isn't going to end his simplistic messages that can be produced by anyone. This is going to cause a spike in the harms against society that this guyed dreamed of his whole life. And, if people normalize him and believe his ideas to be "conservative" rather than far-right kookery it will do even more harm.

Martyring this kook was wrong. It is morally wrong and on top of that, there is a reason everyone falls out of window in Russia rather than being violently murdered in the streets. Even Prigozhin "died in a plane crash" rather than being executed on the street.

I agree that the left needs to step up and do something push back against what is happening, but this isn't it. This isn't going to help. Instead, the left needs to support the Democrats become a stronger and braver political party. The Democrats recently had two politicians assassinated and many GOP politicians thought it was a joke. The correct response is to use the bully pulpit and to use the levers of government to prevent the murder of democrats from occurring again, seeking justice to those involved, those promoting it, and those joking about it. And, to start pushing back against the insane far-right movement that has gained far too much power over the past 30 years.

I'm glad I have multiple passports, but I just wish my second passport got me further away from this country. I really don't know how things get better.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on September 10, 2025, 05:48:34 PM
Peace peace, I hope y’all find peace one day.

We did once this went down:
https://s6.ezgif.com/tmp/ezgif-6d7233335c27a0.gif
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Big Skatefase on September 10, 2025, 06:46:14 PM
You don't understand Hakeem Jefferies and the DNC is too busy trying to stop Zohran Mamdani to fight fascism.

In other news 2028 Democratic presidential nominee and Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shaprio honors Charlie Kirk by ordering the flag to fly at half-staff as a mark of respect for the memory of Charlie Kirk :)

https://www.pa.gov/governor/newsroom/2025-press-releases/gov-shapiro-orders-u-s---commonwealth-flags-to-half-staff-honor-
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Paul Cicero on September 10, 2025, 06:49:23 PM
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This isn't good for anyone. It isn't the correct way to deal with this guy or people like him.

It isn't going to undo his horrible organizations. It isn't going to undo the harm he caused. And, it isn't going to end his simplistic messages that can be produced by anyone. This is going to cause a spike in the harms against society that this guyed dreamed of his whole life. And, if people normalize him and believe his ideas to be "conservative" rather than far-right kookery it will do even more harm.

Martyring this kook was wrong. It is morally wrong and on top of that, there is a reason everyone falls out of window in Russia rather than being violently murdered in the streets. Even Prigozhin "died in a plane crash" rather than being executed on the street.

I agree that the left needs to step up and do something push back against what is happening, but this isn't it. This isn't going to help. Instead, the left needs to support the Democrats become a stronger and braver political party. The Democrats recently had two politicians assassinated and many GOP politicians thought it was a joke. The correct response is to use the bully pulpit and to use the levers of government to prevent the murder of democrats from occurring again, seeking justice to those involved, those promoting it, and those joking about it. And, to start pushing back against the insane far-right movement that has gained far too much power over the past 30 years.

I'm glad I have multiple passports, but I just wish my second passport got me further away from this country. I really don't know how things get better.
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Ah yes. That’s the solution, support the democrats. Surely they have our best interests in mind while they do fuckall about literal nazis taking over. I voted blue down the fucking ballot and all I got in return was a full on fascist takeover With zero resistance. Crickets from that side of the isle, minus a handful of them who’ve been bold enough to push back against these christofascist lunatics. Maybe if we support them even harder they’ll run some moderate corpse of a candidate instead of glancing out of their mansions for 5 minutes to do a goddamn thing.

Who are the “literal nazi’s” ?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Paul Cicero on September 10, 2025, 07:26:10 PM
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This isn't good for anyone. It isn't the correct way to deal with this guy or people like him.

It isn't going to undo his horrible organizations. It isn't going to undo the harm he caused. And, it isn't going to end his simplistic messages that can be produced by anyone. This is going to cause a spike in the harms against society that this guyed dreamed of his whole life. And, if people normalize him and believe his ideas to be "conservative" rather than far-right kookery it will do even more harm.

Martyring this kook was wrong. It is morally wrong and on top of that, there is a reason everyone falls out of window in Russia rather than being violently murdered in the streets. Even Prigozhin "died in a plane crash" rather than being executed on the street.

I agree that the left needs to step up and do something push back against what is happening, but this isn't it. This isn't going to help. Instead, the left needs to support the Democrats become a stronger and braver political party. The Democrats recently had two politicians assassinated and many GOP politicians thought it was a joke. The correct response is to use the bully pulpit and to use the levers of government to prevent the murder of democrats from occurring again, seeking justice to those involved, those promoting it, and those joking about it. And, to start pushing back against the insane far-right movement that has gained far too much power over the past 30 years.

I'm glad I have multiple passports, but I just wish my second passport got me further away from this country. I really don't know how things get better.
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Ah yes. That’s the solution, support the democrats. Surely they have our best interests in mind while they do fuckall about literal nazis taking over. I voted blue down the fucking ballot and all I got in return was a full on fascist takeover With zero resistance. Crickets from that side of the isle, minus a handful of them who’ve been bold enough to push back against these christofascist lunatics. Maybe if we support them even harder they’ll run some moderate corpse of a candidate instead of glancing out of their mansions for 5 minutes to do a goddamn thing.
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Who are the “literal nazi’s” ?
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Oh I’m sorry, mate, thought you didn’t have a dog in this fight? No need to concern a nice innocent bloke with yankee matters.

Jeeez, just asking, you stated it, I was curious.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: noxiousPond on September 10, 2025, 07:33:40 PM
These are not original talking points by me but this is what I’ve read/heard:

His death is a distraction from the Epstein files

Trump will use this and blame the left (even though the right are ALWAYS the psychos with guns) and then use all of the data collected from doge determining who’s “on the left” to pass gun laws prohibiting the left from owning guns.

I personally believe it with how fucked up this shithole country has gotten.

Also, fuck the USA and fuck white amerikkka.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Baby on Board on September 10, 2025, 08:03:46 PM
WE DONT CRY FOR RACISTS

EAT SHIT IN HELL CHARLIE KIRK
SAY WHATS UP TO RUSH LIMBAUGH, PUSSY
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Top-Heavy Hookjaw on September 10, 2025, 08:05:05 PM
You don't understand Hakeem Jefferies and the DNC is too busy trying to stop Zohran Mamdani to fight fascism.

In other news 2028 Democratic presidential nominee and Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shaprio honors Charlie Kirk by ordering the flag to fly at half-staff as a mark of respect for the memory of Charlie Kirk :)

https://www.pa.gov/governor/newsroom/2025-press-releases/gov-shapiro-orders-u-s---commonwealth-flags-to-half-staff-honor-
Makes sense. Kirk was a pro-Israel Zio and Shapiro volunteered in the IDF, although he claims “he did not participate in any military activity”. Just 1 AIPAC chum honoring another.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mr. Pickles on September 10, 2025, 09:14:14 PM
I wanted to change what I said. I only feel bad for his kids. I do believe that what you put out in the universe comes back to you in some way, kinda like Charlie…
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on September 10, 2025, 10:22:00 PM
Even without knowing anything about the shooter, Trump, FOX, and other right-wing outlets are already blaming the left. And no doubt, Kirk would’ve been part of that drive of sowing misinformation and divisive talk.

Also, FBI is apparently saying he got sniped from 100-200 yards. Whoever did that was a legit properly trained shooter.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: WashingtonNECKTIE on September 10, 2025, 10:29:08 PM
Throw it in the heaping pile of American gun violence statistics

America is an increasingly violent nation and that is not changing anytime soon
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: ToySanta on September 10, 2025, 10:39:32 PM
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How it started
(https://i.postimg.c/NF396kyC/IMG-5526.jpg)

How it’s going
(https://i.postimg.c/GhwZfs1k/IMG-5525.jpg)
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I don’t have a dog in this race living in Australia, but making memes about a man who was just killed is some sicko shit.
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  Yeah, it's scary as an outsider seeing how extreme people are in the United States.  They are at each other's throats.  It's some sort of sick game they are playing.  Wild how posting videos of someone getting killed is normal to an American.  I guess all the mass shootings have really desensitized the population there.

Definitely have to a degree. It’s a seasonal occurrence now, in a way. An eleven year old got shot playing ding-dong-ditch. About six or seven years ago it occurred to me that I hadn’t heard about any shootings in awhile, then I realized it was summertime. It’s not what we want; it’s just what we have.

You at all familiar with The Onion?

(https://media.licdn.com/dms/image/v2/C5622AQH6QjgNBYD6vQ/feedshare-shrink_2048_1536/feedshare-shrink_2048_1536/0/1657028349706?e=2147483647&v=beta&t=LuU2BSoBCV0IHg44vukTEYHD0JBFWRrq6bT3VuK0Xpc)

Charlie Kirk reaped the seeds he sowed in life.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on September 11, 2025, 01:32:56 AM

Ah yes. That’s the solution, support the democrats. Surely they have our best interests in mind while they do fuckall about literal nazis taking over. I voted blue down the fucking ballot and all I got in return was a full on fascist takeover With zero resistance. Crickets from that side of the isle, minus a handful of them who’ve been bold enough to push back against these christofascist lunatics. Maybe if we support them even harder they’ll run some moderate corpse of a candidate instead of glancing out of their mansions for 5 minutes to do a goddamn thing.

Sadly, we were out voted. Representative democracy sucks when our party doesn't get power and the other party doesn't care about the law. Dems don't control the executive branch or the legislative branch. They are filing lawsuits, but the judicial branch is fucking is us over.

And, yes, the party is too institutionalist for sure and it needs to stop defending and start fixing institutions. They need to start acting aggressively, especially in California when it comes to high-speed trains (fuck your individual, environmental, or business lawsuit against high speed rail, this shit is going in and its going in tomorrow... let someone bring it to the Supreme Court). They need to embrace being the bad guy for the sake of getting things done.

That being said, a few things have been done. California, Washington, and Oregon are setting up the West Coast Health Alliance to counter-act some of the harm done by Kennedy. California uses its size/power to set regulations that impact/help the rest of the country. And, they have a big chance to do something is in a few weeks when they need to vote to extend the debt ceiling again. This is their chance to withhold power from Trump and recast themselves as a party of action.


The way I see it we have four choices:

1: Use our support to embolden and change the Democratic party (this includes running our own campaigns, if someone as stupid as Mikey Taylor can win office with his connections to Turning Point Faith Rob McCoy) anyone can.
2: Wait for Trump's troops to start disappearing regular people that disagree with them
3: Start a new party and usurp power from the Democratic party.
4: just leave. Let the country backslide

I'm fine with 1 or 3. Bernie came in and made Burlington, VT in awesome place and to no-one's surprise it didn't kill off business. But, Bernie also used the Democratic party to push his message nationally. I don't care if it is Democrat or independent left, just participating is huge. Or, just pick choice 4 and bail.

Choice 2 is the absolute worst choice and that involves staying here and abandoning the Democrats and doing nothing to replace them. As far as I can remember, my party official affiliation has either been green or independent my entire life, but the Greens have been aimless post-Nader and I don't see anyone else in my local area who isn't pushing conservative nonsense.

And, on top of supporting, we need to put pressure on the dems who always shut down the left-wing of the party. The right let's its far-right go wild without a care in the world. The dems need to support their left as well or at least just let it do its thing. And, there needs to be a religious wing of the party. Tolstoy was a Christian anarchist and Jesus was pretty left in his turn the other cheek, give to poor, hating the loansharks (usury?), and so on.

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Crazy the shooter did this from the roof and was able to get away, for now.

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Republicans voted against releasing the Epstein files today.
The FBI is firing people depending on who they voted for.
A professor in Texas was fired for discussing gender in class.
S. Korea is upset with America after 100s of Korean workers at Hyundai plant were detained.
China, India, and Russia are becoming closer.
Predictably Brazil is exporting more soy beans and American farmers aren't getting any pre-orders from China. Lucky, us we get to bail out the people who voted for Trump's policies, because they're only supposed to hurt city folk, not rural folk.
The president is tweeting about occupying Chicago and the Secretary of Defense is trying to say the Department of War stands for peace.
More wind farms and renewable energy projects have been defunded (https://www.npr.org/2025/08/31/nx-s1-5522943/trump-offshore-wind-energy-ports).

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: SUPREMENECKPROTECTOR on September 11, 2025, 01:56:31 AM
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How it started
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How it’s going
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I don’t have a dog in this race living in Australia, but making memes about a man who was just killed is some sicko shit.
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  Yeah, it's scary as an outsider seeing how extreme people are in the United States.  They are at each other's throats.  It's some sort of sick game they are playing.  Wild how posting videos of someone getting killed is normal to an American.  I guess all the mass shootings have really desensitized the population there.
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Definitely have to a degree. It’s a seasonal occurrence now, in a way. An eleven year old got shot playing ding-dong-ditch. About six or seven years ago it occurred to me that I hadn’t heard about any shootings in awhile, then I realized it was summertime. It’s not what we want; it’s just what we have.

You at all familiar with The Onion?

(https://media.licdn.com/dms/image/v2/C5622AQH6QjgNBYD6vQ/feedshare-shrink_2048_1536/feedshare-shrink_2048_1536/0/1657028349706?e=2147483647&v=beta&t=LuU2BSoBCV0IHg44vukTEYHD0JBFWRrq6bT3VuK0Xpc)

Charlie Kirk reaped the seeds he sowed in life.

More like daily occurence ... https://massshootingtracker.site/
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: shouldn't on September 11, 2025, 01:57:55 AM
Even without knowing anything about the shooter, Trump, FOX, and other right-wing outlets are already blaming the left. And no doubt, Kirk would’ve been part of that drive of sowing misinformation and divisive talk.

to be fair would the same not happen if the situation were flipped? if it was a democrat extremist who was murdered i would immediately assume it was a republican who shot them honestly.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Glue Reed on September 11, 2025, 02:27:58 AM
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Even without knowing anything about the shooter, Trump, FOX, and other right-wing outlets are already blaming the left. And no doubt, Kirk would’ve been part of that drive of sowing misinformation and divisive talk.

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to be fair would the same not happen if the situation were flipped? if it was a democrat extremist who was murdered i would immediately assume it was a republican who shot them honestly.

Well true, but right-wing violence is an extremely common occurrence, to the point where it's expected and even tolerated.  It's much more rare to have left-motivated shootings in America.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: S. on September 11, 2025, 02:42:15 AM
I teach at a German high school and many of my students were visibly shaken by his death today. That surprised me. His reach must have been insane. Why are students in Germany consuming his content…

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: roba on September 11, 2025, 04:30:03 AM
I teach at a German high school and many of my students were visibly shaken by his death today. That surprised me. His reach must have been insane. Why are students in Germany consuming his content…

AFD propaganda and racial prejudices, same shit is happening all over europe, norwegian AFD counterpart got second in their last election, konfederacja is third in poland right now... it's been 80 years since we've had a significant war in europe and the children are fried off tiktok so they don't know no better, history is cyclical...
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: rawbertson. on September 11, 2025, 05:05:02 AM
I’m surprised a bullet proof iron man suit hasn’t been invented yet. Just put a supreme logo on it and shit would sell like McMuffins
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: The real veganshawn on September 11, 2025, 05:38:13 AM
UK ambassador to the USA fIred over ties to trump's best friend.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mongo Lloyd on September 11, 2025, 05:40:42 AM
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I teach at a German high school and many of my students were visibly shaken by his death today. That surprised me. His reach must have been insane. Why are students in Germany consuming his content…
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AFD propaganda and racial prejudices, same shit is happening all over europe, norwegian AFD counterpart got second in their last election, konfederacja is third in poland right now... it's been 80 years since we've had a significant war in europe and the children are fried off tiktok so they don't know no better, history is cyclical...

Much of which I assume is funded by Russia.

Russia owning the Cold War game. Scary how effective these efforts have been.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: BALARGUE on September 11, 2025, 08:04:55 AM
I teach at a German high school and many of my students were visibly shaken by his death today. That surprised me. His reach must have been insane. Why are students in Germany consuming his content…

for the same reason they consume Tate's and all those hyper religious / far right / real men sickos' content. Because a teen might be insecure and be looking for a model / father figure while not being able to see through the lies and concealed homophobic/misogynistic/privileged and often racist violence. Their bullshit is now easily available through IG or TikTok without any sort of control (see Twitter), education at home is lacking and boom.

And what roba said
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: bluntfullofmid on September 11, 2025, 08:55:06 AM
can we get a @fuck_that_guy in the chat
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Willie on September 11, 2025, 09:27:46 AM
Also, FBI is apparently saying he got sniped from 100-200 yards. Whoever did that was a legit properly trained shooter.

A trained shooter wouldn’t have aimed for the neck. Too easy to miss.

Hit is consistent with a shot aimed for the center of the head with a scope that was zeroed in at 50-100 yards but did not account for the bullet drop at 200+.

I guess it looks “professional” compared to some other incidents we’ve seen but the truth is that shooting is really goddamn easy and most would be assassins thus far have been inept.

Actually having a zeroed in scope a rifle that’s mechanically accurate enough for that kind of shot is 80% of the job. (Assuming guy in Butler had an off the rack AR15 and wasn’t using match ammo, the spread of shots from that gun, even if clamped in a vice, would be over a foot wide at that distance. The guy at the golf course had an SKS, which would be even less mechanically accurate. )
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mongo Lloyd on September 11, 2025, 09:30:42 AM
Fuck these re.tarded fagg0ts hope they all get murked like Kirk

Sorry for you your boy got killed.

That’s called losing the debate on gun violence.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Coastal Fever on September 11, 2025, 09:37:17 AM
I don’t think him dying is funny, or cause for joyful celebration.. but I also think the world and everyone in it is better off without purveyors of evil like him alive. 

I definitely feel conflicted over his death, but moreso on a personal level.  I earn my living by indirectly helping others, but I also consume goods that rely on evil means of production. 

Would the world be better off without myself in it?  Do I get a pass because I don’t earn my money from intolerance, but rather just benefit from it?  The more I think about the whole situation, the broader it gets, and the uneasier I feel about the state of humanity itself.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Sleazy on September 11, 2025, 10:44:48 AM
hoping to see more of this in our politics both nationally and on social media

https://www.instagram.com/voteinorout/reel/DOdjgCDkcKv/

looking forward to voting for this guy for senate

celebrating someone getting gunned down for debating his views is just wrong. like james talarico i don't agree with charlie kirks ideology but at least he was out there debating and engaging people in conversations and not just throwing out pejoratives, insults and talking points.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Marion Stoked on September 11, 2025, 10:51:36 AM
The memes coming out of this are wild.


Not trying to play devil's advocate here, or be an asshole, seriously. I'm very curious to know his wife's stance on gun violence and its tolerability (smh) in the US before and after this event.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: brycickle on September 11, 2025, 11:44:25 AM
I teach at a German high school and many of my students were visibly shaken by his death today. That surprised me. His reach must have been insane. Why are students in Germany consuming his content…

My wife found a meme that someone did: Burning of the Reichstag, 2025 version.

I can't find it, but it seemed somewhat prescient.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: gumsole on September 11, 2025, 11:59:43 AM
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Also, FBI is apparently saying he got sniped from 100-200 yards. Whoever did that was a legit properly trained shooter.
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A trained shooter wouldn’t have aimed for the neck. Too easy to miss.

Hit is consistent with a shot aimed for the center of the head with a scope that was zeroed in at 50-100 yards but did not account for the bullet drop at 200+.

I guess it looks “professional” compared to some other incidents we’ve seen but the truth is that shooting is really goddamn easy and most would be assassins thus far have been inept.

Actually having a zeroed in scope a rifle that’s mechanically accurate enough for that kind of shot is 80% of the job. (Assuming guy in Butler had an off the rack AR15 and wasn’t using match ammo, the spread of shots from that gun, even if clamped in a vice, would be over a foot wide at that distance. The guy at the golf course had an SKS, which would be even less mechanically accurate. )

Apparently the rifle they found was a mauser 30.06. The average range for a hunter using this model or similar can hit a very accurate shot on big game from 450-650 yards. What Willie said is spot on. His scope probably wasn't zeroed in for that angle, wind, variable conditions and he aimed for the head and unfortunately still obtained a kill shot.

I can tell you that by no means am I a skilled marksmen but have shot .223 and .556 rounds and hit targets 200-300 yards consistently while being prone and having a sandbag to stabilize the barrel. I will say though, the asshole of a shooter had some great confidence knowing he's taking this shot with a bolt action rifle and if he misses will not be able to get another shot off on his target.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mongo Lloyd on September 11, 2025, 12:29:22 PM
@gumsole

You’re misusing the word “unfortunately” here.

This is a guy that argued that gays should be stoned, are groomers, and that children should witness public executions.

Well, a public execution certainly was witnessed in Utah. Be careful what you wish for.

Hate perpetuates hate.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: rawbertson. on September 11, 2025, 12:30:36 PM
So that guy definitely sucked badly, but I don’t agree with killing people in any case, even if it was trump or Tate or whoever bastard. I don’t think this was the right way. Because that is just stooping to their level. It also doesn’t solve anything. His followers will see him as a martyr and his message will only get stronger now. It is just a shitty situation ultimately because I feel like it’s just causing further divide of American people. I would like to think the world is a better place that he is gone but I am not sure it even makes any difference sadly because he already built the army of brainwashed.


It is crazy to me that people don’t see an event like this and automatically think “maybe this gun shit has gone too far?”
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mongo Lloyd on September 11, 2025, 12:53:58 PM
I get what you’re saying, but when you back marginalized people into a corner, and pose an existential threat to them, don’t be surprised when they defend themself pre-emptily.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: KoRnholio8 on September 11, 2025, 12:57:46 PM
I don't condone violence and this will be abused in political ways I'm sure of it.

But on the subject of "debaters" ... these people run their mouths so fast that no one can fact check any of the claims and the aim is to "win" rather then understand each other. This stuff is cancer for the brain. It really is incredibly sad to see the opinions of the youth being influenced by people appearing competent, but spewing bullshit.

At least the past generations got served an analysis of that bull from the media which at least some of the time produces corroborating facts and/or different views. Kids are now stuck in their echo chambers for engagement dollars.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: layzieyez on September 11, 2025, 01:06:38 PM
I’m so jealous of Brazil for having a working judiciary.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Freelancevagrant on September 11, 2025, 01:34:02 PM
I for one am so glad he got mowed down. Inside job or not it’s great he finally shut the fuck up.

He built an empire on calling for violence against marginalized people, and violence answered. He championed the genocide in Gaza and had no qualms cheering on the massacre of thousands of innocent people, both domestically and across the globe.

Fuck this ghoul, fuck his dead homies, fuck anyone caping for him, and fuck everyone like him.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: gumsole on September 11, 2025, 01:46:36 PM
@gumsole

You’re misusing the word “unfortunately” here.

This is a guy that argued that gays should be stoned, are groomers, and that children should witness public executions.

Well, a public execution certainly was witnessed in Utah. Be careful what you wish for.

Hate perpetuates hate.

Hey man I get it, this guy spewed a lot of things that people didn't agree with. He painted a rather large target on himself like many others on both sides have. The columbine shooters didn't paint a bad picture for themselves but still were bullied and teased relentlessly because they were "different" till they got fed up and returned with brutal violence.

At the end of the day its not about left or right its about right or wrong. If something someone does or says ESPECIALLY someone you've never even met in person gets your feathers riled up, you can simply choose to ignore them. I've blocked many people on this forum because of their viewpoints and boom problem solved. Killing someone who has physically no threat to you or your family does not deserve being targeted and killed. That's just absurd unhinged behavior.

Some of these comments here are crazy. People are actually hyped this dude got killed because they didn't like him. Well a year ago my dog chased my neighbors cat into a tree and my neighbor shot and killed my dog. I fucking can't stand him but just last week his wife died of cancer. Am I over on my property dancing and cheering with joy. Absolutely not, I sent my condolences and moved on. Again, its simple, if you don't like sushi then don't eat it but don't hate the chef that makes it. 
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on September 11, 2025, 02:00:08 PM
Not sure if anyone’s been keeping up with South Park this season, but they did a Charlie Kirk ep and it was basically Cartman getting mad that Charlie Kirk was stealing his shtick
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on September 11, 2025, 02:15:43 PM
Not sure if anyone’s been keeping up with South Park this season, but they did a Charlie Kirk ep and it was basically Cartman getting mad that Charlie Kirk was stealing his shtick

They pulled the episode from streaming sites. Kinda dumb because Kirk enjoyed being saterized by them.

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: GaryDahLegend on September 11, 2025, 02:20:48 PM
dylan and eric weren't bullied. eric was a psychopath fed up with humanity wanting to put on a horrible spectacle, basically performance art to him. dylan was suicidal but wasn't a man of action so he entered into a pact with someone that would force him into it. dylan was reluctant to hurt anyone until eric was right next to him doing it, directly influencing him.

also everything else you said is poorly examined and goofy too.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mongo Lloyd on September 11, 2025, 02:33:40 PM
Not weighing in any further other than to say a hate preacher dying under any circumstances isn’t a sad event.

It’s the energy they invite into their lives by living as a hate monger.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on September 11, 2025, 02:55:01 PM
Not weighing in any further other than to say a hate preacher dying under any circumstances isn’t a sad event.

It’s the energy they invite into their lives by living as a hate monger.

His final act was truly a patriotic one — commemorating the 9/11 attacks by dropping like the Twin Towers 🇺🇸
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Billy Bitchcakes on September 11, 2025, 03:26:45 PM
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@gumsole

You’re misusing the word “unfortunately” here.

This is a guy that argued that gays should be stoned, are groomers, and that children should witness public executions.

Well, a public execution certainly was witnessed in Utah. Be careful what you wish for.

Hate perpetuates hate.
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Hey man I get it, this guy spewed a lot of things that people didn't agree with. He painted a rather large target on himself like many others on both sides have. The columbine shooters didn't paint a bad picture for themselves but still were bullied and teased relentlessly because they were "different" till they got fed up and returned with brutal violence.

At the end of the day its not about left or right its about right or wrong. If something someone does or says ESPECIALLY someone you've never even met in person gets your feathers riled up, you can simply choose to ignore them. I've blocked many people on this forum because of their viewpoints and boom problem solved. Killing someone who has physically no threat to you or your family does not deserve being targeted and killed. That's just absurd unhinged behavior.

Some of these comments here are crazy. People are actually hyped this dude got killed because they didn't like him. Well a year ago my dog chased my neighbors cat into a tree and my neighbor shot and killed my dog. I fucking can't stand him but just last week his wife died of cancer. Am I over on my property dancing and cheering with joy. Absolutely not, I sent my condolences and moved on. Again, its simple, if you don't like sushi then don't eat it but don't hate the chef that makes it.

Just out of curiosity, are you part of a minority group who have had increased hateful rhetoric or violence aimed at you by people who were encouraged by public figures like Kirk?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: rawbertson. on September 11, 2025, 03:27:24 PM
I don't condone violence and this will be abused in political ways I'm sure of it.

But on the subject of "debaters" ... these people run their mouths so fast that no one can fact check any of the claims and the aim is to "win" rather then understand each other. This stuff is cancer for the brain. It really is incredibly sad to see the opinions of the youth being influenced by people appearing competent, but spewing bullshit.

At least the past generations got served an analysis of that bull from the media which at least some of the time produces corroborating facts and/or different views. Kids are now stuck in their echo chambers for engagement dollars.

This shit is wack they don’t even speak to eachother like human beings

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DIzcgt4y-0B/?igsh=MXN1aDNmMjRpcHFleQ==


Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Abyss1 on September 11, 2025, 05:08:31 PM
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@gumsole

You’re misusing the word “unfortunately” here.

This is a guy that argued that gays should be stoned, are groomers, and that children should witness public executions.

Well, a public execution certainly was witnessed in Utah. Be careful what you wish for.

Hate perpetuates hate.
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Hey man I get it, this guy spewed a lot of things that people didn't agree with. He painted a rather large target on himself like many others on both sides have. The columbine shooters didn't paint a bad picture for themselves but still were bullied and teased relentlessly because they were "different" till they got fed up and returned with brutal violence.

At the end of the day its not about left or right its about right or wrong. If something someone does or says ESPECIALLY someone you've never even met in person gets your feathers riled up, you can simply choose to ignore them. I've blocked many people on this forum because of their viewpoints and boom problem solved. Killing someone who has physically no threat to you or your family does not deserve being targeted and killed. That's just absurd unhinged behavior.

Some of these comments here are crazy. People are actually hyped this dude got killed because they didn't like him. Well a year ago my dog chased my neighbors cat into a tree and my neighbor shot and killed my dog. I fucking can't stand him but just last week his wife died of cancer. Am I over on my property dancing and cheering with joy. Absolutely not, I sent my condolences and moved on. Again, its simple, if you don't like sushi then don't eat it but don't hate the chef that makes it.

its the people who don't ignore him and have positions of political power thats the problem....not a bunch of SLAP users...honestly havent heard anything about that POS is a while, apparently he was set to debate Hasan in 2 weeks...which i would have ignored since I dont like Hasan's political takes
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on September 11, 2025, 05:18:28 PM
Anyone out there happen to see the article that WSJ did this morning spreading lies and misinformation directly from the FBI stating ‘there was ammo found with trans and anti fascist ideologies engraved on the inside’? Seems they scrubbed that off the internet and replaced it with an ‘amended’ one saying it was local law enforcement that said that and it may not be true.
Looks like you were right on your take yesterday @TastyBurrito with they’ll blame trans people and run with the lie.

As for the trained shooter, i doubt it. Anyone with any basic training would NEVER attempt a head shot. You’re taught to always go center mass. Greater chance of downing them. I do applaud them for going bolt action 30-06.

Where’s the National Guard or the Marines? They’re paraded around for made up shit but actually having someone assassinated?

 Nah, red state. We can’t risk that! Shit might get out of control.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: pugmaster on September 11, 2025, 05:28:50 PM
I for one am so glad he got mowed down. Inside job or not it’s great he finally shut the fuck up.

He built an empire on calling for violence against marginalized people, and violence answered. He championed the genocide in Gaza and had no qualms cheering on the massacre of thousands of innocent people, both domestically and across the globe.

Fuck this ghoul, fuck his dead homies, fuck anyone caping for him, and fuck everyone like him.


^Exactly


The right expecting sympathy and compassion is like the paparazzi asking for privacy.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: able on September 11, 2025, 06:01:55 PM
(https://i.abcnewsfe.com/a/ddfefd93-7ba4-4647-b89f-b528e745d8f0/kirk-shooter-suspect-split-ht-jt-250911_1757606542845_hpMain_4x3.jpg)

Crob’s been real quiet since the shooting…
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Top-Heavy Hookjaw on September 11, 2025, 06:48:44 PM
They transported Kirk’s body on Air Force 2. That’s your tax dollars at work right there.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on September 11, 2025, 06:52:53 PM
They transported Kirk’s body on Air Force 2. That’s your tax dollars at work right there.

They’re spending a billion to change all DoD text to Dept of War even though they can’t legally change that name without a 60 senator approval, so what’s another little drop in the bucket
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: augustmoon on September 11, 2025, 06:59:38 PM
Anyone out there happen to see the article that WSJ did this morning spreading lies and misinformation directly from the FBI stating ‘there was ammo found with trans and anti fascist ideologies engraved on the inside’? Seems they scrubbed that off the internet and replaced it with an ‘amended’ one saying it was local law enforcement that said that and it may not be true.
Looks like you were right on your take yesterday @TastyBurrito with they’ll blame trans people and run with the lie.

As for the trained shooter, i doubt it. Anyone with any basic training would NEVER attempt a head shot. You’re taught to always go center mass. Greater chance of downing them. I do applaud them for going bolt action 30-06.

Where’s the National Guard or the Marines? They’re paraded around for made up shit but actually having someone assassinated?

 Nah, red state. We can’t risk that! Shit might get out of control.

I just read some speculation that the “trans ideology” they were referencing were the letters “TRN” stamped into the casing.  TRN refers to a brand of ammunition.  They’re either the dumbest people alive or there is a clear agenda to blame this on a trans person

If the “person of interest” is actually the guy, then it looks to me like another disgruntled right wing groyper dismayed that their former idol wasn’t extreme enough.

Real “years of lead” times coming.   Be careful what you post on social media, there are highly coordinated doxxing campaigns going on
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on September 11, 2025, 07:35:48 PM
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They transported Kirk’s body on Air Force 2. That’s your tax dollars at work right there.
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They’re spending a billion to change all DoD text to Dept of War even though they can’t legally change that name without a 60 senator approval, so what’s another little drop in the bucket

And if Dems ever win again and they undo this insanity, the MAGATs will be quick to call it all a waste of taxpayer money.

Watch Trump allow his wife to sue the state of Utah and he’ll pay it off like he did Ashli Babbit.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on September 11, 2025, 07:55:09 PM
Anyone out there happen to see the article that WSJ did this morning spreading lies and misinformation directly from the FBI stating ‘there was ammo found with trans and anti fascist ideologies engraved on the inside’? Seems they scrubbed that off the internet and replaced it with an ‘amended’ one saying it was local law enforcement that said that and it may not be true.
Looks like you were right on your take yesterday @TastyBurrito with they’ll blame trans people and run with the lie.

As for the trained shooter, i doubt it. Anyone with any basic training would NEVER attempt a head shot. You’re taught to always go center mass. Greater chance of downing them. I do applaud them for going bolt action 30-06.

Where’s the National Guard or the Marines? They’re paraded around for made up shit but actually having someone assassinated?

 Nah, red state. We can’t risk that! Shit might get out of control.

People are already beginning the talks that Kirk’s death is the MAGA equivalent of the Reichstag Fire where the event was used to justify Hitler and the Nazi party to strip civil liberties, free speech, free press, etc., in order to surpress the Communist party’s supposed violent uprising.

Look at how GOP are already saying they’ll jail anyone talking bad about Kirk and his death on social media, even banning travelers visas to America if their social posts are negative to MAGA.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Painted Baby on September 11, 2025, 08:23:18 PM
I’m so jealous of Brazil for having a working judiciary.
Major major shoutout to Brazil for showing the US how it's done.

Charlie doesn't want me for a sunbeam
Don't expect me to cry for him
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on September 11, 2025, 09:02:23 PM
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Anyone out there happen to see the article that WSJ did this morning spreading lies and misinformation directly from the FBI stating ‘there was ammo found with trans and anti fascist ideologies engraved on the inside’? Seems they scrubbed that off the internet and replaced it with an ‘amended’ one saying it was local law enforcement that said that and it may not be true.
Looks like you were right on your take yesterday @TastyBurrito with they’ll blame trans people and run with the lie.

As for the trained shooter, i doubt it. Anyone with any basic training would NEVER attempt a head shot. You’re taught to always go center mass. Greater chance of downing them. I do applaud them for going bolt action 30-06.

Where’s the National Guard or the Marines? They’re paraded around for made up shit but actually having someone assassinated?

 Nah, red state. We can’t risk that! Shit might get out of control.
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People are already beginning the talks that Kirk’s death is the MAGA equivalent of the Reichstag Fire where the event was used to justify Hitler and the Nazi party to strip civil liberties, free speech, free press, etc., in order to surpress the Communist party’s supposed violent uprising.

Look at how GOP are already saying they’ll jail anyone talking bad about Kirk and his death on social media, even banning travelers visas to America if their social posts are negative to MAGA.

Hardly surprising considering they were banning travelers over the Vance meme
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Noble Experiment on September 11, 2025, 10:36:22 PM
The worst part about this is his children are now fatherless; who’s gonna teach em to be bigots now?  :'(
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mr. Pickles on September 11, 2025, 11:30:32 PM
We’re all going to die one day. Hopefully in bed, asleep, and not on video for our families to relive at any point.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: rawbertson. on September 12, 2025, 07:05:14 AM
I don't think we should celebrate his death - but I don't think we should celebrate his life either.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Freelancevagrant on September 12, 2025, 08:17:36 AM
Just to chime in on the marksmanship aspect here because I know a thing or two about it. There is no way he was shot with a 30-06, even though the round impacted in the neck, there is a very strong chance we would have seen Charlie Kirk’s head come smoove off. Not to mention we would have very clearly seen a whole bunch of his neck matter exiting out the back. Shit woulda been like scanners. But that’s not what happened. It looks like he got hit in the neck with a 5.56, the projectile tumbled and severed his spinal cord.

My theory, he’s not some Israeli commando; or CIA paramilitary sniper. There are a lot of glaring issues that a professionally instructed marksman would never make, all of which the shooter did.

He aimed for the T-Box(the eyes and nose) while trying to take a precision shot, took a high angle shot (my guess is around 30 degrees) but didn’t account for effected distance change, and had an incredibly sloppy exfil from a firing position that he was fucking silhouetted at.


I think the young boul had an AR-15 with a decent enough low power variable optic, and zeroed said optic at 100 yards. He trained with it for a while and got decent enough to make a shot at 100-200 yards, not hard at all. However, he didn’t adjust for the bullet drop of 5.56. When zeroed at 100 yards, 5.56 will drop about 6 inches by the time it impacts at 200 yards. There was no windage adjustment needed because it was a calm enough day and at that range there is no need for a wind hold unless the wind is like at 15mph plus crosswind. I think he was tensing his thumb as he pulled the trigger which is why the round impacted to the right.

I’ve included some pictures, one is the exit wound of a 30-06, one shows the ballistic trajectory of 5.56 at varying zeroing distance, the other is how you calculate for distance change when taking high angle shots.

(https://i.postimg.cc/DzR0sSYZ/IMG-8585.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/1zGXpCGn/IMG-8582.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/G2b2zFKM/IMG-8593.png)

Sources: me, 3rd BN 5th Marines Scout Sniper platoon.

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Idk on September 12, 2025, 09:19:12 AM
I don't think we should celebrate his death - but I don't think we should celebrate his life either.
”We can disagree and still love each other unless your disagreement is rooted in my oppression and denial of my humanity and right to exist.” - James Baldwin
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on September 12, 2025, 09:46:23 AM
Shooting suspect at a 22-year old white cis male who is a Mormon that grew up in a conservative household with plenty of access to guns growing up.

I’m legit curious to see how Trump and MAGA will blame this on open borders, BLM, and Trans people.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mongo Lloyd on September 12, 2025, 09:51:14 AM
Shooting suspect at a 22-year old white cis male who is a Mormon that grew up in a conservative household with plenty of access to guns growing up.

I’m legit curious to see how Trump and MAGA will blame this on open borders, BLM, and Trans people.

The thing is they already put the lie out there, and that’s enough for those people to believe. Facts don’t and have never mattered to them.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Freelancevagrant on September 12, 2025, 09:52:48 AM
Shooting suspect at a 22-year old white cis male who is a Mormon that grew up in a conservative household with plenty of access to guns growing up.

I’m legit curious to see how Trump and MAGA will blame this on open borders, BLM, and Trans people.

Idk man seems like a kid that would be perfect to get recruited by a 3 letter agency.

Only issue with that is he is still alive.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on September 12, 2025, 09:59:09 AM
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Shooting suspect at a 22-year old white cis male who is a Mormon that grew up in a conservative household with plenty of access to guns growing up.

I’m legit curious to see how Trump and MAGA will blame this on open borders, BLM, and Trans people.
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Idk man seems like a kid that would be perfect to get recruited by a 3 letter agency.

Only issue with that is he is still alive.

I can see him being in the Men In Black (MIB).
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on September 12, 2025, 11:03:52 AM
Nancy Mace Tweeted how Charlie Kirk would’ve wanted people to pray for the shooter.

I like to think her mentality wouldn’t be as compassionate if his skin had more melanin in it.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: companguero on September 12, 2025, 11:04:13 AM
"Billionaire Bill Ackman has offered to donate $1 million to Charlie Kirk's family as an endowment and a separate $1 million to the FBI reward fund for information leading to the arrest of the shooter who assassinated Charlie Kirk on September 10, 2025, at Utah Valley University"

If your son did this would you turn him in?
Would you seek the reward?
What would you do with the money?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on September 12, 2025, 11:13:40 AM
"Billionaire Bill Ackman has offered to donate $1 million to Charlie Kirk's family as an endowment and a separate $1 million to the FBI reward fund for information leading to the arrest of the shooter who assassinated Charlie Kirk on September 10, 2025, at Utah Valley University"

If your son did this would you turn him in?
Would you seek the reward?
What would you do with the money?


The way my mom put it: they were going to catch him, this was they way they thought he would be caught but stay alive
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Freelancevagrant on September 12, 2025, 11:14:43 AM
"Billionaire Bill Ackman has offered to donate $1 million to Charlie Kirk's family as an endowment and a separate $1 million to the FBI reward fund for information leading to the arrest of the shooter who assassinated Charlie Kirk on September 10, 2025, at Utah Valley University"

If your son did this would you turn him in?
Would you seek the reward?
What would you do with the money?

I always said I would never have kids… but the thought of my hypothetical future child confiding in me that he slimed a prominent hate mongering Christian Nationalist. Well, that is enough to make me reconsider my stance on having children.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: WashingtonNECKTIE on September 12, 2025, 11:26:42 AM
I wonder if his folks saw the writing on the wall and turned him in to try and mitigate any further damages to the political landscape. Or maybe it’s not that deep…

Point is, this is a case no reasonable person wanted going cold
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: companguero on September 12, 2025, 11:28:15 AM
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"Billionaire Bill Ackman has offered to donate $1 million to Charlie Kirk's family as an endowment and a separate $1 million to the FBI reward fund for information leading to the arrest of the shooter who assassinated Charlie Kirk on September 10, 2025, at Utah Valley University"

If your son did this would you turn him in?
Would you seek the reward?
What would you do with the money?
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I always said I would never have kids… but the thought of my hypothetical future child confiding in me that he slimed a prominent hate mongering Christian Nationalist. Well, that is enough to make me reconsider my stance on having children.

Jack Ruby never had kids, I guess it's a wash then.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: companguero on September 12, 2025, 11:29:54 AM
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"Billionaire Bill Ackman has offered to donate $1 million to Charlie Kirk's family as an endowment and a separate $1 million to the FBI reward fund for information leading to the arrest of the shooter who assassinated Charlie Kirk on September 10, 2025, at Utah Valley University"

If your son did this would you turn him in?
Would you seek the reward?
What would you do with the money?
[close]


The way my mom put it: they were going to catch him, this was they way they thought he would be caught but stay alive

I'm curious how his parents will deal with the media and how they will process what their son did.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: layzieyez on September 12, 2025, 12:23:24 PM
I'm sure the dad was probably motivated by not getting excommunicated by the LDS for turning in his son.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Unkle Fleak on September 12, 2025, 12:29:24 PM
No matter what your kid does or turns out to be in life. You gotta never turn on them period. Always back them up when they are in trouble. And when they’re doing rough you gotta try to guide them away from troubles the best you can.

 The system is a murder tornado meat grinder that the current administration barely has control of.  They shouldn’t have done that to their son. They should’ve gone straight to a lawyer had him turn himself in or have given them a back pack and said. I guess this is it son you don’t want to go to a lawyer then you’ve chosen to leave us. Here’s some money to get you a little time before they take you. There’s no way you’re escaping now this is a fact.

There’s literally zero circumstances that could get me to pick system over blood. Makes me a bad person then I don’t wanna be good.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: GnarAlarm on September 12, 2025, 12:30:24 PM
OOOOHHHHH SHIT HE'S A GROYPER!

Kirk got murked for not being racist and homophobic enough.

Yesterday Nancy Mace was declaring war on the violent left.
Here's Nancy Mace today...

(https://i.imgur.com/YDhpSSH.png)
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on September 12, 2025, 12:47:10 PM
OOOOHHHHH SHIT HE'S A GROYPER!

Kirk got murked for not being racist and homophobic enough.

Yesterday Nancy Mace was declaring war on the violent left.
Here's Nancy Mace today...

(https://i.imgur.com/YDhpSSH.png)

Exactly, she had the torches and pitchforks ready for an anticipated person of color.

Now that it’s a white cis male, it’s about compassion, forgiveness, and understanding.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: h00man on September 12, 2025, 12:48:31 PM
well well well...shooter isnt trans....

MAGA is so fucking stupid
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on September 12, 2025, 01:00:01 PM
Also, be safe out there. On an interview today, Trump doubled down on blaming the radical left for all of this and stated he couldn’t care less when it came to unifying the US.

This is going to be a grim timeline where I truly think he’s going to egg on a Civil War.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: BALARGUE on September 12, 2025, 01:07:05 PM
The worst is yet to come
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Unkle Fleak on September 12, 2025, 01:51:29 PM
OOOOHHHHH SHIT HE'S A GROYPER!

Kirk got murked for not being racist and homophobic enough.

Yesterday Nancy Mace was declaring war on the violent left.
Here's Nancy Mace today...

(https://i.imgur.com/YDhpSSH.png)

I knew it. Also you see the family photos? They’re gun club af.

 I was right he was farmed by kooky system shits.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: double fakie ollie grind on September 12, 2025, 02:55:48 PM
I teach at a German high school and many of my students were visibly shaken by his death today. That surprised me. His reach must have been insane. Why are students in Germany consuming his content…

Because Germany was never denazified
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: munchbox on September 12, 2025, 04:23:54 PM
call from inside the house as usual
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: augustmoon on September 12, 2025, 04:25:29 PM
If the “person of interest” is actually the guy, then it looks to me like another disgruntled right wing groyper dismayed that their former idol wasn’t extreme enough.

Real “years of lead” times coming.   Be careful what you post on social media, there are highly coordinated doxxing campaigns going on

Oh jeez I was right again
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on September 12, 2025, 04:52:45 PM
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"Billionaire Bill Ackman has offered to donate $1 million to Charlie Kirk's family as an endowment and a separate $1 million to the FBI reward fund for information leading to the arrest of the shooter who assassinated Charlie Kirk on September 10, 2025, at Utah Valley University"

If your son did this would you turn him in?
Would you seek the reward?
What would you do with the money?
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The way my mom put it: they were going to catch him, this was they way they thought he would be caught but stay alive
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I'm curious how his parents will deal with the media and how they will process what their son did.


Read American Pastoral by Phillip Roth.   Basically about a man who discovers his child was in a 70s political movement like Weather Underground
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Silky Johnson on September 12, 2025, 04:54:05 PM
Snitch ass dad
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Noble Experiment on September 12, 2025, 05:25:46 PM
Snitch ass dad
Well, if it makes the dad feel better about snitching on his own flesh and blood to get the bag: if it were Pine’s kid he woulda done it for 1k
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: munchbox on September 12, 2025, 05:31:18 PM
lol
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Big Skatefase on September 12, 2025, 05:39:09 PM
GH's boy Sam Hyde totally having a normal one.

https://x.com/wigger/status/1965866324296454334

People still think this is some post-ironic satire?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on September 12, 2025, 06:01:10 PM
So Reichstag fire it’s not. Ernst Röhm it is.

 Still waiting for our version of Operation Canned Goods since they’re going page for page out of the Nazi playbook. I’m betting that comes around midterms, you know, martial law declared in select states!
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on September 12, 2025, 06:25:10 PM
So Reichstag fire it’s not. Ernst Röhm it is.

 Still waiting for our version of Operation Canned Goods since they’re going page for page out of the Nazi playbook. I’m betting that comes around midterms, you know, martial law declared in select states!

When Martial Law happens (it will) I hope all the “but both sides” people realize what they helped vote in and create.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Painted Baby on September 12, 2025, 07:22:17 PM
GH's boy Sam Hyde totally having a normal one.

https://x.com/wigger/status/1965866324296454334

People still think this is some post-ironic satire?
He's been mask off since the story of him harming an underage girl got out. If you scroll his replies, there's no way any of his behavior is a bit. He uses his troll behavior as a cover to keep you guessing about what is and isn't a bit but he apparently did groom and abuse an underage fan.

The story on the shooter is that his pastor made him from the pictures that were released yesterday and called the dad to negotiate how to turn the kid in without him being killed by law enforcement.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: munchbox on September 13, 2025, 06:03:32 AM
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GH's boy Sam Hyde totally having a normal one.

https://x.com/wigger/status/1965866324296454334

People still think this is some post-ironic satire?
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He's been mask off since the story of him harming an underage girl got out. If you scroll his replies, there's no way any of his behavior is a bit. He uses his troll behavior as a cover to keep you guessing about what is and isn't a bit but he apparently did groom and abuse an underage fan.
shocking news from a guy whos handle is “wigger”
no way that guy says the n-word behind closed doors
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: SmashtheState on September 13, 2025, 08:50:34 AM
well well well...shooter isnt trans....

MAGA is so fucking stupid
Indeed they're, it makes me physically ill the depths of which they'll pander to their tragedy fetish.  Kirk's wife has been giving interviews instead of mourning and grieving in silence and peace.

No matter your political opinions are someone who panders to the right as I'm not a racist but.... troll. He caught one for what he wished for other's. Didn't he say empathy is a made up illness? As well as other reprehensible statements that a ten year old rape girl should have that baby?! Or consent is grey area?! Gtfoh

  I find it morally disgusting and disrespectful to shed tear much less a thought of empathy towards kooks of this ilk. Rest in piss
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Top-Heavy Hookjaw on September 13, 2025, 09:05:33 AM
I heard a sound bite of Kirk’s widow this morning and she sounded like she was getting ready to go to war.
Not exactly a distraught widow.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on September 13, 2025, 09:18:14 AM
I heard a sound bite of Kirk’s widow this morning and she sounded like she was getting ready to go to war.
Not exactly a distraught widow.

Kinda like the videos of the hands in the casket and her mourning over his body, they feel like content driven to stir up rage rather than to show grief.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: excitableboy on September 13, 2025, 10:18:48 AM
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I heard a sound bite of Kirk’s widow this morning and she sounded like she was getting ready to go to war.
Not exactly a distraught widow.
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Kinda like the videos of the hands in the casket and her mourning over his body, they feel like content driven to stir up rage rather than to show grief.

Incredible isn't it. Show must go on.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on September 13, 2025, 10:30:39 AM
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I heard a sound bite of Kirk’s widow this morning and she sounded like she was getting ready to go to war.
Not exactly a distraught widow.
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Kinda like the videos of the hands in the casket and her mourning over his body, they feel like content driven to stir up rage rather than to show grief.
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Incredible isn't it. Show must go on.

Kinda hard to not imagine that since Trump couldn’t stir up the liberal base, he opted to stir up his base because it still produces one thing: civil unrest. In the end, he can still impose Martial Law.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Marion Stoked on September 13, 2025, 12:20:34 PM
Sigh.


It really says a lot about a country when the death of a person who dedicated their life to spewing fear, hate, and division is given more reverence by its political leaders than classrooms full children who aren't old enough to form grammatically correct sentences yet having their heads blown off by some psychopath.


I mean, members of the EU Parliament wanted to hold a "moment of silence" for this guy.

A moment of silence. In EU Parliament. For this guy.

Try to wrap your mind around that for a second.




I’m so jealous of Brazil for having a working judiciary.

I don't know why I laughed so hard at this. Would gnar.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: EdLawndale on September 13, 2025, 12:37:52 PM
Heard some interesting narrative that the shooter may have been influenced by some beef btwn Kirk and an even more conservative right wing talking head, and the shooter was taking the side of the other guy. Like it was Conservative-on-Conservative violence. I dunno.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Democratic Republic Of Mongo on September 13, 2025, 01:05:46 PM
Heard some interesting narrative that the shooter may have been influenced by some beef btwn Kirk and an even more conservative right wing talking head, and the shooter was taking the side of the other guy. Like it was Conservative-on-Conservative violence. I dunno.

It’s now being reported that his roommate helped turn him in and was in communications with Robinson about the murder. The roommate is now cooperating with the FBI. It’s looking more like Dog Day Afternoon than anything else.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on September 13, 2025, 02:03:48 PM
Heard some interesting narrative that the shooter may have been influenced by some beef btwn Kirk and an even more conservative right wing talking head, and the shooter was taking the side of the other guy. Like it was Conservative-on-Conservative violence. I dunno.

Supposedly, he was a follower of Nick Fuentes. Nick (and Laura Loomer) didn’t like Kirk because he wasn’t MAGA enough for them. His stance with wanting Israel to stop the Genocide as well as wanting to release the Epstein files didn’t sit well with Fuentes, Loomer, and their followers. Which the shooted was allegedly one.

Also yea, it’s insane how Conservatives around the world are canonizing this guy. He spoke hate. Sure, he didn’t whip out the guns or knives, but his words drove action. Much like how Charles Manson didn’t kill Sharon Tate, but his words ans influence directly led to violence. And to assume he didn’t know what his influence could incite is pure denial.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on September 13, 2025, 02:07:02 PM
Sigh.


It really says a lot about a country when the death of a person who dedicated their life to spewing fear, hate, and division is given more reverence by its political leaders than classrooms full children who aren't old enough to form grammatically correct sentences yet having their heads blown off by some psychopath.


I mean, members of the EU Parliament wanted to hold a "moment of silence" for this guy.

A moment of silence. In EU Parliament. For this guy.

Try to wrap your mind around that for a second.




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I don't know why I laughed so hard at this. Would gnar.

Didn’t they do it and most people banged their desk throughout?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Marion Stoked on September 13, 2025, 03:00:18 PM
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Sigh.


It really says a lot about a country when the death of a person who dedicated their life to spewing fear, hate, and division is given more reverence by its political leaders than classrooms full children who aren't old enough to form grammatically correct sentences yet having their heads blown off by some psychopath.


I mean, members of the EU Parliament wanted to hold a "moment of silence" for this guy.

A moment of silence. In EU Parliament. For this guy.

Try to wrap your mind around that for a second.




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I’m so jealous of Brazil for having a working judiciary.
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I don't know why I laughed so hard at this. Would gnar.
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Didn’t they do it and most people banged their desk throughout?

Correct. But the fact that it even was proposed at all is laughable.

Like, if Tim Pool passes will he get a military burial in Copenhagen with a full coat of arms?

The fuck are these people thinking?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on September 13, 2025, 03:30:26 PM
Trump will demand that Tim Pool be inducted into the Skateboard Hall of Fame and the ollie be officially renamed to the “Poolie.”
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on September 13, 2025, 03:55:14 PM
LOL. I had a few family members go off on the misinformation that the shooter was a crazy liberal then quietly delete posts when it came to light it was reich on reich violence.

I responded to posts asking why aren’t they all crazed up now knowing the shooter was straight and white. I got blocked 🤣
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Democratic Republic Of Mongo on September 13, 2025, 04:07:38 PM
https://www.axios.com/2025/09/13/kirk-suspect-transgender-roommate
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: augustmoon on September 13, 2025, 04:13:27 PM
This is them bullshitting trying to cover their ass, don’t fall for it. 

They’ve determined “trans” is going to be the flashpoint to go after the left.  That fell apart when the reality of this event started to become apparent, so now they straight up lie. 

Realize what their endgame is with this and work backwards.  There was a Fox News host just today saying that homeless people should be euthanized against their will.  They’re making doxxing lists of anyone they feel is posting “leftist ideology”.   They’re getting close and letting their mask slip.  Things are going to accelerate quickly. 
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on September 13, 2025, 04:37:43 PM
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This is them bullshitting trying to cover their ass, don’t fall for it. 

They’ve determined “trans” is going to be the flashpoint to go after the left.  That fell apart when the reality of this event started to become apparent, so now they straight up lie. 

Realize what their endgame is with this and work backwards.  There was a Fox News host just today saying that homeless people should be euthanized against their will. They’re making doxxing lists of anyone they feel is posting “leftist ideology”.   They’re getting close and letting their mask slip.  Things are going to accelerate quickly.
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That shit was insane. He literally said “just kill em” and they all just acted like it was a totally normal thing to say. Like how is that not costing that ghoul his job at the very least

Especially when MSNBC fired Dowd for saying, “hateful thoughts leads to hateful words which lead to hateful actions.” In no way did he celebrate Kirk’s death, besmirch his name, and/or glorify violence.

Adding to that, Defense Secretary Hegseth, our DUI hire, just fired a marine and is theatening military personnel consequences if they write anything that’s short of worshipping Kirk on their social accounts. Literally using the Pentagon to scan military members’ personal accounts to find those who aren’t “loyal.”

Like, not only is this a HUGE breach of the First Amendment, this is literally a page out of the fascist nation playbook. And all of this is being treated normal by the media.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: FrAnKenFrEd on September 13, 2025, 05:55:45 PM
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This is them bullshitting trying to cover their ass, don’t fall for it. 

They’ve determined “trans” is going to be the flashpoint to go after the left.  That fell apart when the reality of this event started to become apparent, so now they straight up lie. 

Realize what their endgame is with this and work backwards.  There was a Fox News host just today saying that homeless people should be euthanized against their will. They’re making doxxing lists of anyone they feel is posting “leftist ideology”.   They’re getting close and letting their mask slip.  Things are going to accelerate quickly.
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That shit was insane. He literally said “just kill em” and they all just acted like it was a totally normal thing to say. Like how is that not costing that ghoul his job at the very least
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Especially when MSNBC fired Dowd for saying, “hateful thoughts leads to hateful words which lead to hateful actions.” In no way did he celebrate Kirk’s death, besmirch his name, and/or glorify violence.

Adding to that, Defense Secretary Hegseth, our DUI hire, just fired a marine and is theatening military personnel consequences if they write anything that’s short of worshipping Kirk on their social accounts. Literally using the Pentagon to scan military members’ personal accounts to find those who aren’t “loyal.”

Like, not only is this a HUGE breach of the First Amendment, this is literally a page out of the fascist nation playbook. And all of this is being treated normal by the media.
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This all feels like that steamroller scene in Austin powers. Like, where the fuck are the good guys? How is this all just going down without any real opposition? All we get is fucking Gavin Newsom making AI memes teasing Trump and anyone else involved in politics who has any fucking balls gets snuffed out. The right has been working on this shit for 40+ years and nobody had a fuckin plan to combat this shit when it’s at our doorstep? Maybe this is how it goes down when you build your empire on the graves of natives using slave labor.

well said.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on September 13, 2025, 06:59:10 PM
110K fascists marched in London today
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Painted Baby on September 13, 2025, 10:16:09 PM
110K fascists marched in London today
Elon zoomed in to the rally and told another country that he doesn't live in that they should dismantle their democracy. He stumbled and stuttered through it and looked like another chicken fried technofacist just like his other goofball homies from the Paypal mafia.

The desk thumping in the EU Parliment was an objection because the motion for a moment of silence was not passed so they had an ideological tantrum. As they do
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: alien porkchop on September 13, 2025, 10:19:41 PM
decorum is dead
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: JANUS on September 14, 2025, 05:39:59 AM
Oh hey, the Governor of Utah is telling the media that the dude accused of shooting that guy was “deeply indoctrinated by leftist ideology,” and went on to provide absolutely zero evidence to back up his claim. I didn’t see that coming.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: KoRnholio8 on September 14, 2025, 06:43:00 AM
Just imagine, people that agree that Kirk engaged in "debating" are eligible for jury duty.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: sexualhelon on September 14, 2025, 08:50:36 AM
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Sigh.


It really says a lot about a country when the death of a person who dedicated their life to spewing fear, hate, and division is given more reverence by its political leaders than classrooms full children who aren't old enough to form grammatically correct sentences yet having their heads blown off by some psychopath.


I mean, members of the EU Parliament wanted to hold a "moment of silence" for this guy.

A moment of silence. In EU Parliament. For this guy.

Try to wrap your mind around that for a second.




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I’m so jealous of Brazil for having a working judiciary.
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I don't know why I laughed so hard at this. Would gnar.
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Didn’t they do it and most people banged their desk throughout?

Had to look this video up. Epic.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on September 14, 2025, 09:01:30 AM
Oh hey, the Governor of Utah is telling the media that the dude accused of shooting that guy was “deeply indoctrinated by leftist ideology,” and went on to provide absolutely zero evidence to back up his claim. I didn’t see that coming.

Same with Ben Shapiro (the one poised to be the next big GOP debater) on Bill Maher. Went off saying he was a leftist and a socialist and Bill had to stop him and say we know nothing of the shooter and the internet misinformation is known for always being wrong. Then when challenged with talk that he was an alt-right follower, Ben goes, “We can’t be sure of that” and Bill was quick to snap, “but only minutes ago, you were sure he was a leftist.”

Ben was stunned with silence.

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Tony76 on September 14, 2025, 10:11:50 AM
Ben was stunned with silence.
Good God watching ben Shapiro debates and bragging about getting into political fights with your family on Facebook, your a fuckin loser
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mongo Lloyd on September 14, 2025, 10:26:57 AM
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Good God watching ben Shapiro debates and bragging about getting into political fights with your family on Facebook, your a fuckin loser

Our country is being torn apart by an authoritarian fascist regime and anyone that cares is a loser?

Is this Muscles? Go Fuck your gimpy self you pathetic sackless sock puppet.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on September 14, 2025, 11:22:30 AM
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Ben was stunned with silence.
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Good God watching ben Shapiro debates and bragging about getting into political fights with your family on Facebook, your a fuckin loser

*You’re

The US is coming under rule from literal self-proclaimed white nationalists who are undoing the constitution and rights of the people in real time and being concerned with that is “being a loser?”

Please goosestep your way back to your Klan meeting.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Big Skatefase on September 14, 2025, 05:17:42 PM
Gotta love Fox News advocating for killing the homeless while at the same time claiming morally superiority over people that don't honor the death of a white supremacist.  :D
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Democratic Republic Of Mongo on September 14, 2025, 06:12:58 PM
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/14/us/kirk-shooting-suspect-ideology-partner.html
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: JANUS on September 14, 2025, 06:17:56 PM
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/14/us/kirk-shooting-suspect-ideology-partner.html

The article says the dead guy was answering a question about transgender people when he was shot, but I saw that shit go down, and he was attempting to deflect a question about gun violence by asking if gang-related shootings count.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on September 14, 2025, 06:41:04 PM
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The article says the dead guy was answering a question about transgender people when he was shot, but I saw that shit go down, and he was attempting to deflect a question about gun violence by asking if gang-related shootings count.

*if gang related shootings count towards offsetting the stats regarding white guys inflicting all the mass shootings
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: JANUS on September 14, 2025, 07:24:05 PM
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https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/14/us/kirk-shooting-suspect-ideology-partner.html
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The article says the dead guy was answering a question about transgender people when he was shot, but I saw that shit go down, and he was attempting to deflect a question about gun violence by asking if gang-related shootings count.
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*if gang related shootings count towards offsetting the stats regarding white guys inflicting all the mass shootings

Yeah, that’s the one!
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on September 14, 2025, 07:26:10 PM
Kash Patel and the FBI have begun investigating all left-wing groups for any kind of connection to the shooter. Just a circus show now looking for any reason to blame the left, sow division, and spread political hate.

Can’t wait to see some of those crazy ass connections —like “this liberal group likes pizza and the shooter likes pizza, which means this group was reaponsible for grooming the shooter.”
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on September 14, 2025, 07:34:10 PM
Gotta keep the Epstein files with Pesident Pedo down in the headlines somehow!
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on September 14, 2025, 08:05:55 PM
Also farmers in Arkansas and Nebraska who are mad at Trump because they’re losing their farms are no longer mad at Trump or focused on their bankruptcies.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Christ Puncher on September 14, 2025, 08:32:18 PM
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The article says the dead guy was answering a question about transgender people when he was shot, but I saw that shit go down, and he was attempting to deflect a question about gun violence by asking if gang-related shootings count.

A guy had asked Kirk how many trans mass shooters there had been over the past X years, Kirk responded "too many" to some brain dead cheering. The guy followed up by asking the number of mass shooters total over the same period, which Kirk attempted to deflect with a racist dogwhistle.

Presumably the guy asking the question was going to compare the number of trans mass shooters against the total number of mass shooters and potentially compare that ratio against the percentage of the population that identifies as transgender (which would suggest that trans shooters are underrepresented and therefore less prone to gun violence). As we saw however, the whole thing was uh, interrupted.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Painted Baby on September 14, 2025, 09:07:12 PM
Kash Patel and the FBI have begun investigating all left-wing groups for any kind of connection to the shooter. Just a circus show now looking for any reason to blame the left, sow division, and spread political hate.

Can’t wait to see some of those crazy ass connections —like “this liberal group likes pizza and the shooter likes pizza, which means this group was reaponsible for grooming the shooter.”
Kash Patel is going to be lucky if he makes it through this week as director. MAGA is pissed at him for both the bungling of the investigation and the Valhalla shoutout he directed at Charlie. It would make sense that he would turn to dry snitchin to get his dumbass out of hot water.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on September 14, 2025, 09:18:59 PM
Also farmers in Arkansas and Nebraska who are mad at Trump because they’re losing their farms are no longer mad at Trump or focused on their bankruptcies.

I don’t think that will last.  China ain’t buying our soy beans and that’s a constant that will last beyond these 2 weeks on newsiness
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: alien porkchop on September 14, 2025, 10:50:02 PM
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Kash Patel and the FBI have begun investigating all left-wing groups for any kind of connection to the shooter. Just a circus show now looking for any reason to blame the left, sow division, and spread political hate.

Can’t wait to see some of those crazy ass connections —like “this liberal group likes pizza and the shooter likes pizza, which means this group was reaponsible for grooming the shooter.”
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Kash Patel is going to be lucky if he makes it through this week as director. MAGA is pissed at him for both the bungling of the investigation and the Valhalla shoutout he directed at Charlie. It would make sense that he would turn to dry snitchin to get his dumbass out of hot water.

i heard an audio clip of that in a podcast this morning and it broke my brain. i am glad it is causing confusion and question, because i can’t stop wondering why he was pulling that ideological thread. full psycho dog whistle.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: JANUS on September 15, 2025, 05:52:22 AM
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The article says the dead guy was answering a question about transgender people when he was shot, but I saw that shit go down, and he was attempting to deflect a question about gun violence by asking if gang-related shootings count.
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A guy had asked Kirk how many trans mass shooters there had been over the past X years, Kirk responded "too many" to some brain dead cheering. The guy followed up by asking the number of mass shooters total over the same period, which Kirk attempted to deflect with a racist dogwhistle.

Presumably the guy asking the question was going to compare the number of trans mass shooters against the total number of mass shooters and potentially compare that ratio against the percentage of the population that identifies as transgender (which would suggest that trans shooters are underrepresented and therefore less prone to gun violence). As we saw however, the whole thing was uh, interrupted.

Ah! Thank you for providing greater context. The video I saw may not have shown the beginning of the exchange. That or I failed to encode that part to memory.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: FrAnKenFrEd on September 15, 2025, 03:39:21 PM
God damn....

https://thegrayzone.com/2025/09/12/charlie-kirk-netanyahu-israel-assassination/ (https://thegrayzone.com/2025/09/12/charlie-kirk-netanyahu-israel-assassination/)
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Bobby Goes Nuts on September 15, 2025, 04:52:52 PM
God damn....

https://thegrayzone.com/2025/09/12/charlie-kirk-netanyahu-israel-assassination/ (https://thegrayzone.com/2025/09/12/charlie-kirk-netanyahu-israel-assassination/)
I found it weird that Net&Yahoo had to declare that he didn’t have anything to do with it, and than blamed it on Islamists and the left.

However, that Tyler guy was a Groyper, a follower of Nick Fuentes, who hates Jewish people, so I doubt Israel had anything to do with it. They’d probably blackmail or threaten CK if he didn’t spew Zionist propaganda, because he was a useful tool for normalizing hatred of Muslims.

Republicans’ obsession with trans people and trying to pin “trans ideology” as motivation for what happened is so fucking stupid, but not surprising.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: augustmoon on September 15, 2025, 05:25:25 PM
It gets weirder and weirder every hour.  As weird as Butler, PA in fact.  Not adding up.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: SmashtheState on September 16, 2025, 06:17:47 AM
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God damn....

https://thegrayzone.com/2025/09/12/charlie-kirk-netanyahu-israel-assassination/ (https://thegrayzone.com/2025/09/12/charlie-kirk-netanyahu-israel-assassination/)
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Republicans’ obsession with trans people and trying to pin “trans ideology” as motivation for what happened is so fucking stupid, but not surprising.

Not that I'm bashing anyone who's trans or under that umbrella the "rights obsession" with anything lgbtq+ is their own projections and confessions.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: augustmoon on September 16, 2025, 09:16:21 AM
They’re openly coming for free speech now.  Be careful what you post. 
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mongo Lloyd on September 16, 2025, 09:18:20 AM
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God damn....

https://thegrayzone.com/2025/09/12/charlie-kirk-netanyahu-israel-assassination/ (https://thegrayzone.com/2025/09/12/charlie-kirk-netanyahu-israel-assassination/)
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Republicans’ obsession with trans people and trying to pin “trans ideology” as motivation for what happened is so fucking stupid, but not surprising.
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Not that I'm bashing anyone who's trans or under that umbrella the "rights obsession" with anything lgbtq+ is their own projections and confessions.

What? Perhaps maybe because their rights are constantly being threatened. Perhaps maybe the obsession is due to existential reasons.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: JohnnyRamonePolitics on September 16, 2025, 09:19:16 AM
They’re openly coming for free speech now.  Be careful what you post.

Yes do be carful posting straight up hate speech on the internet. Apparently work places don’t like employing complete pieces of garbage.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: FrAnKenFrEd on September 16, 2025, 09:21:54 AM
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They’re openly coming for free speech now.  Be careful what you post.
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Yes do be carful posting straight up hate speech on the internet. Apparently work places don’t like employing complete pieces of garbage.

Can you show us all the line between critique and hate?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: augustmoon on September 16, 2025, 09:35:18 AM
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They’re openly coming for free speech now.  Be careful what you post.
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Yes do be carful posting straight up hate speech on the internet. Apparently work places don’t like employing complete pieces of garbage.

“Hate speech is whatever we say it is”


-fucking morons like yourself. 
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mongo Fly Out on September 16, 2025, 10:20:30 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/TZ4LNPD.jpeg)
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Unkle Fleak on September 16, 2025, 11:04:11 AM
Stupid poser ass wannabes watch too much tv. They don’t even realize that SLAP is the actual Valhalla.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: fuck_that_guy on September 16, 2025, 11:39:01 AM
fuck that guy
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mongo Lloyd on September 16, 2025, 11:54:50 AM
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They’re openly coming for free speech now.  Be careful what you post.
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Yes do be carful posting straight up hate speech on the internet. Apparently work places don’t like employing complete pieces of garbage.

Good thing I’m self employed! Means I can openly talk about what a hateful bigoted piece of shit Mr. Kirk was.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on September 16, 2025, 01:33:34 PM
Interesting turn of events:

Not making a wedding cake for gay people. Constitutional right.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/narrow-ruling-supreme-court-gives-victory-baker-who-refused-make-n872946

Not fulfilling your job as a government employee to issue a marriage license. Should be a constitutional right.
https://www.scotusblog.com/2025/08/will-the-supreme-court-revisit-its-ruling-on-same-sex-marriage/

Refusing to make a website for a gay couple's wedding. Constitutional right.
https://newrepublic.com/article/173987/mysterious-case-fake-gay-marriage-website-real-straight-man-supreme-court

Refusing to print a poster for right-wing podcaster. Illegal.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/16/us/politics/pam-bondi-hate-speech-charlie-kirk.html


If this made it to the Supreme Court it would take some serious mental gymnastics for the 6 right wing justices to say, "Refusing to make a cake or a website is legal, but people can be forced to print posters."
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: alien porkchop on September 16, 2025, 02:26:30 PM

If this made it to the Supreme Court it would take some serious mental gymnastics for the 6 right wing justices to say, "Refusing to make a cake or a website is legal, but people can be forced to print posters."

i honestly don’t see it being a huge stretch on their part. the cake and website have design elements that constitute speech on the part of the designer / implementer (the baker and the developer) but the employee at the print shop is paid to run a machine. it is not their speech being infringed upon. if i was a conservative justice and a cunt, i would start there.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: alien porkchop on September 16, 2025, 02:31:08 PM
left/right politics aside, the thing antifascist need to prioritize is cultivating a pipeline of lawyers, legal activists and judges that can compete with what has been put in place by right wing institutions for decades.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on September 16, 2025, 03:16:05 PM
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If this made it to the Supreme Court it would take some serious mental gymnastics for the 6 right wing justices to say, "Refusing to make a cake or a website is legal, but people can be forced to print posters."
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i honestly don’t see it being a huge stretch on their part. the cake and website have design elements that constitute speech on the part of the designer / implementer (the baker and the developer) but the employee at the print shop is paid to run a machine. it is not their speech being infringed upon. if i was a conservative justice and a cunt, i would start there.

I can easily see them defending the first two on practimg religious freedom, being religion is a protected class. The refusal will be challenged based on political bias being the basis and with that not a protected class, it’ll be deemed as prejudice.

The thing I’d be worried about is Trump “joking” about saying the quiet part out loud — when told during a press conference that people still have their 1st Amendment Right and are out there still protesting, his immediate response was “I wouldn’t be so sure about that.”

Media needs to start cracking down and taking his words seriously instead of sane-washing that idiot. He’s literally talking about dismantling the first point in the Bill of Rights and people are brushing it off as if it were nothing.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on September 16, 2025, 03:30:40 PM
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If this made it to the Supreme Court it would take some serious mental gymnastics for the 6 right wing justices to say, "Refusing to make a cake or a website is legal, but people can be forced to print posters."
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i honestly don’t see it being a huge stretch on their part. the cake and website have design elements that constitute speech on the part of the designer / implementer (the baker and the developer) but the employee at the print shop is paid to run a machine. it is not their speech being infringed upon. if i was a conservative justice and a cunt, i would start there.

This is a smart idea and probably the route she would go, it is a clever distinction (creative v mechanical) but I feel it would be hard to say political affiliation is a protected class.

And, if they won, conservatives would regret it immediately.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on September 16, 2025, 05:45:25 PM
The DOJ just SILENTLY deleted an FBI led study that Republicans committ the most politically charged violence. Convenient that Kash will probably use the FBI to rewrite the narrative.

(https://i.postimg.cc/SxcShMSx/IMG-3400.jpg)
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: SmashtheState on September 17, 2025, 08:04:35 AM
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God damn....

https://thegrayzone.com/2025/09/12/charlie-kirk-netanyahu-israel-assassination/ (https://thegrayzone.com/2025/09/12/charlie-kirk-netanyahu-israel-assassination/)
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Republicans’ obsession with trans people and trying to pin “trans ideology” as motivation for what happened is so fucking stupid, but not surprising.
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Not that I'm bashing anyone who's trans or under that umbrella the "rights obsession" with anything lgbtq+ is their own projections and confessions.
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What? Perhaps maybe because their rights are constantly being threatened. Perhaps maybe the obsession is due to existential reasons.
You're right maybe I'm a bit tone deaf for that (just pointing out their usual behaviors as projections) I apologize.  I'm seeing quite a bit of that side freely using memes to bag on lgbtq+  it sucks as we're reverting backwards towards kooks using slurs and other reprehensible behaviors.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Democratic Republic Of Mongo on September 17, 2025, 10:00:34 AM
The idea that anyone really thought the killer was a Nick Fuentes fan is pretty amusing.

It was a painfully obvious coping mechanism for the gravedancers who felt the need to morally distance themselves from the killer while still being happy about what he did. This has backfired spectacularly, because a lot more people noticed that than you think.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on September 17, 2025, 10:52:57 AM
The idea that anyone really thought the killer was a Nick Fuentes fan is pretty amusing.

It was a painfully obvious coping mechanism for the gravedancers who felt the need to morally distance themselves from the killer while still being happy about what he did. This has backfired spectacularly, because a lot more people noticed that than you think.

What are you trying to say?   How has his motives or associations been proven in any capacity for you to say this?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on September 17, 2025, 11:00:36 AM
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The idea that anyone really thought the killer was a Nick Fuentes fan is pretty amusing.

It was a painfully obvious coping mechanism for the gravedancers who felt the need to morally distance themselves from the killer while still being happy about what he did. This has backfired spectacularly, because a lot more people noticed that than you think.
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What are you trying to say?   How has his motives or associations been proven in any capacity for you to say this?

Ben Shaprio told him so.

Odd that they read so much off identity rather than ideology. And with Patel at the helm of the FBI, one can’t help but question authenticity. Much like the MS13 knuckle tattoos the FBI produced to justify deporting that man from Maryland.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: companguero on September 17, 2025, 11:22:03 AM
surprised this wasn't posted

(https://i.postimg.cc/QdNdYMXh/Screen-Shot-2025-09-17-at-11-19-16-AM.png)

(https://i.postimg.cc/T2r2Rb1T/Screen-Shot-2025-09-17-at-11-19-51-AM.png)
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: BALARGUE on September 17, 2025, 11:37:30 AM
lol
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on September 17, 2025, 11:37:52 AM
It reads like this:

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/q_YFIY4L0EI/maxresdefault.jpg)


On a new note, watching Patel dodge and sidestep every question of whether or not Trump in mentioned in the Epstein files should be a HUGE red flag for people.

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: companguero on September 17, 2025, 11:38:02 AM
via https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/16/us/text-message-tyler-robinson-roomate-vis
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Abyss1 on September 17, 2025, 12:34:01 PM
via https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/16/us/text-message-tyler-robinson-roomate-vis

https://www.aetv.com/real-crime/what-makes-criminals-blab-about-their-crimes

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Looking at some recent cases of self-incrimination, where the perpetrator flaunts their criminality, it seems unfathomable anyone would willingly shoot themselves in the foot. What’s the logic behind it?
Some of it is braggadocio. Some of it has to do with wanting acceptance by criminal peers—that’s especially true with gangs, but not exclusively; it’s also true with juveniles. They think it gives them street cred.

Was hoping last week when they couldnt find him that dude wouldn't self report himself...oh well
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: JANUS on September 17, 2025, 03:56:27 PM
I’m not saying it’s a fake, but the fact that it has been edited (ex. [my dad]), but it’s still presented visually as a screen capture from text messages, it makes me a look at it with suspicion.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Democratic Republic Of Mongo on September 17, 2025, 04:06:10 PM
https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/16/us/charges-tyler-robinson-charlie-kirk

You can read the indictment on here. It’s a pretty quick read.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: GaryDahLegend on September 17, 2025, 04:10:28 PM
i want susan monarez to vaccinate my brains out.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: h00man on September 17, 2025, 04:40:52 PM
Jimmy Kimmel just got his show canceled over his comments about Charlie Kirk.

Funny how freedom of speech only applies if you're a nazi.

Now, I don't give a single shit about Jimmy and ABC and this show, but him and Colbert being "silenced" is alarming. Meanwhile, we have right-wing media spewing lies, RFK being a complete dumb fuck, and Trump himself going on boomer rants at 2am. But that's okay cause its "freedumb of speech" for these guys.

EDIT: to clarify, this is what got his show canceled:

"We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it," Kimmel said.

that's literally it.....
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: ToySanta on September 17, 2025, 05:06:46 PM
Jimmy Kimmel just got his show canceled over his comments about Charlie Kirk.

Funny how freedom of speech only applies if you're a nazi.

Now, I don't give a single shit about Jimmy and ABC and this show, but him and Colbert being "silenced" is alarming. Meanwhile, we have right-wing media spewing lies, RFK being a complete dumb fuck, and Trump himself going on boomer rants at 2am. But that's okay cause its "freedumb of speech" for these guys.

EDIT: to clarify, this is what got his show canceled:

"We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it," Kimmel said.

that's literally it.....

At least they were upfront about it this time.. I brought up the Colbert thing on the bloard awhile back and a poster was claiming “financial reasons” then too. Wonder if Kimmel gets canned from Who Wants to Be a Millionaire as well? Anyway, what a mess.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: augustmoon on September 17, 2025, 05:12:27 PM
i want susan monarez to vaccinate my brains out.

She’s really hot isn’t she.  I want her to yell at me
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on September 17, 2025, 05:13:54 PM
It’s insane how they argue Charlie Kirk was about free speech while literally violating the FCC. Remember when they said free speech was under attack when Twitter (a private company) blocked Trump and others for “hate speech” which violated their TOC?

Now Trump has the FCC going after any on-air personality who speaks poorly of him. Also having Pam Bondi herself go after the person at Office Depot who refused to print the CK vigil posters under the guise they violated a person’s civil rights?!

Literally weaponizing of the government.


Edit: $10 he goes for SNL and South Park next.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: augustmoon on September 17, 2025, 06:15:45 PM
Trump just declared Antifa a “terrorist organization”. 

Declare your enemies terrorists and you can justify their murder.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on September 17, 2025, 06:23:23 PM
Trump just declared Antifa a “terrorist organization”. 

Declare your enemies terrorists and you can justify their murder.

And after the FBI and CIA stated that ANTIFA is a movement, not an organization. Unlike Proud Boys who he removed that label from.

We as a nation are fucked.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: apport on September 17, 2025, 06:28:29 PM
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The idea that anyone really thought the killer was a Nick Fuentes fan is pretty amusing.

It was a painfully obvious coping mechanism for the gravedancers who felt the need to morally distance themselves from the killer while still being happy about what he did. This has backfired spectacularly, because a lot more people noticed that than you think.
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What are you trying to say?   How has his motives or associations been proven in any capacity for you to say this?
if we’re going by the narrative, it is absolutely cope to think a groyper, of all people, is going to engrave “bella ciao” and “hey fascist catch” on bullets to assassinate charlie kirk

also, maga parents ≠ maga kid, kids of conservative parents rebel by turning left, a tale as old as time
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on September 17, 2025, 06:40:37 PM
Jimmy Kimmel just got his show canceled over his comments about Charlie Kirk.

Funny how freedom of speech only applies if you're a nazi.

Now, I don't give a single shit about Jimmy and ABC and this show, but him and Colbert being "silenced" is alarming. Meanwhile, we have right-wing media spewing lies, RFK being a complete dumb fuck, and Trump himself going on boomer rants at 2am. But that's okay cause its "freedumb of speech" for these guys.

EDIT: to clarify, this is what got his show canceled:

"We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it," Kimmel said.

that's literally it.....


His show is not cancelled.   It’s pulled off the schedule at the moment because a large affiliate looking to do a merger wouldn’t air it, but the show is not cancelled
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on September 17, 2025, 06:43:53 PM
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The idea that anyone really thought the killer was a Nick Fuentes fan is pretty amusing.

It was a painfully obvious coping mechanism for the gravedancers who felt the need to morally distance themselves from the killer while still being happy about what he did. This has backfired spectacularly, because a lot more people noticed that than you think.
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What are you trying to say?   How has his motives or associations been proven in any capacity for you to say this?
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if we’re going by the narrative, it is absolutely cope to think a groyper, of all people, is going to engrave “bella ciao” and “hey fascist catch” on bullets to assassinate charlie kirk

also, maga parents ≠ maga kid, kids of conservative parents rebel by turning left, a tale as old as time

What about “if you’re reading this, you’re gay”?   Or the Owo one?   Sounds like dumb internet shit

Isn’t the whole point of this person like the Minnesota person is to have a bunch of contradictory opinions and beliefs to hide behind
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Shitbag on September 17, 2025, 06:45:27 PM
Jimmy Kimmel didn’t say shit that isn’t true, MAGAts are doing their best to paint the Kirk killer as a radical leftist are they not?

Trump”s tweet about the show being pulled off the air (he wrongly said it was cancelled) is more proof (as if we needed any more) that DJT is the biggest pussy, softest bitch toddler ass whiny man baby that has ever walked the face of the earth.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on September 17, 2025, 06:55:07 PM
Jimmy Kimmel didn’t say shit that isn’t true, MAGAts are doing their best to paint the Kirk killer as a radical leftist are they not?

Trump”s tweet about the show being pulled off the air (he wrongly said it was cancelled) is more proof (as if we needed any more) that DJT is the biggest pussy, softest bitch toddler ass whiny man baby that has ever walked the face of the earth.

For a world class grudge holder - it’s weird he’s not constantly talking about the guy who tried to kill him.   
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: ToySanta on September 17, 2025, 06:59:08 PM
“Suspended indefinitely” “preempted indefinitely” is cancelled enough at this point. At the rate late nite is going, Fallon will be the last man standing. Bleh.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: augustmoon on September 17, 2025, 07:04:31 PM
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The idea that anyone really thought the killer was a Nick Fuentes fan is pretty amusing.

It was a painfully obvious coping mechanism for the gravedancers who felt the need to morally distance themselves from the killer while still being happy about what he did. This has backfired spectacularly, because a lot more people noticed that than you think.
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What are you trying to say?   How has his motives or associations been proven in any capacity for you to say this?
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if we’re going by the narrative, it is absolutely cope to think a groyper, of all people, is going to engrave “bella ciao” and “hey fascist catch” on bullets to assassinate charlie kirk

also, maga parents ≠ maga kid, kids of conservative parents rebel by turning left, a tale as old as time

Both of those quotes are video game shit that groypers  have turned into memes.  This is been covered to death at this point so you either don’t know what you’re talking about or you’re lying.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: apport on September 17, 2025, 07:12:41 PM
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The idea that anyone really thought the killer was a Nick Fuentes fan is pretty amusing.

It was a painfully obvious coping mechanism for the gravedancers who felt the need to morally distance themselves from the killer while still being happy about what he did. This has backfired spectacularly, because a lot more people noticed that than you think.
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What are you trying to say?   How has his motives or associations been proven in any capacity for you to say this?
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if we’re going by the narrative, it is absolutely cope to think a groyper, of all people, is going to engrave “bella ciao” and “hey fascist catch” on bullets to assassinate charlie kirk

also, maga parents ≠ maga kid, kids of conservative parents rebel by turning left, a tale as old as time
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What about “if you’re reading this, you’re gay”?   Or the Owo one?   Sounds like dumb internet shit

Isn’t the whole point of this person like the Minnesota person is to have a bunch of contradictory opinions and beliefs to hide behind
by prefacing my last post with “if we’re going by the narrative”, i mean i also don’t trust what we are being told. but going off of that no i don’t think he’s of the same nihilistic strain as the minneapolis shooter. “owo what’s this” and “if you’re reading this you’re gay” is like chapo-tier shit.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on September 17, 2025, 07:27:00 PM
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The idea that anyone really thought the killer was a Nick Fuentes fan is pretty amusing.

It was a painfully obvious coping mechanism for the gravedancers who felt the need to morally distance themselves from the killer while still being happy about what he did. This has backfired spectacularly, because a lot more people noticed that than you think.
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What are you trying to say?   How has his motives or associations been proven in any capacity for you to say this?
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if we’re going by the narrative, it is absolutely cope to think a groyper, of all people, is going to engrave “bella ciao” and “hey fascist catch” on bullets to assassinate charlie kirk

also, maga parents ≠ maga kid, kids of conservative parents rebel by turning left, a tale as old as time
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What about “if you’re reading this, you’re gay”?   Or the Owo one?   Sounds like dumb internet shit

Isn’t the whole point of this person like the Minnesota person is to have a bunch of contradictory opinions and beliefs to hide behind
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by prefacing my last post with “if we’re going by the narrative”, i mean i also don’t trust what we are being told. but going off of that no i don’t think he’s of the same nihilistic strain as the minneapolis shooter. “owo what’s this” and “if you’re reading this you’re gay” is like chapo-tier shit.


Im not that plugged into the internet or discord or wherever this stuff comes from to know.   Don’t even know what chapo-tier means.  I’m aware of chapo trap house…
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: JohnnyRamonePolitics on September 17, 2025, 08:23:30 PM
Did people a favor, Kimmel isn’t funny. Put Jay Mohr or someone that actually knows how to have a conversation with someone and doesn’t just laugh about bs.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on September 17, 2025, 08:33:16 PM
Did people a favor, Kimmel isn’t funny. Put Jay Mohr or someone that actually knows how to have a conversation with someone and doesn’t just laugh about bs.

Yeah put Jay Mohr on.   No one liked him in the 90s or 00s enough to make him a name talent, but it’ll probably take now that he has a podcast or some shit
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on September 17, 2025, 08:52:19 PM
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The idea that anyone really thought the killer was a Nick Fuentes fan is pretty amusing.

It was a painfully obvious coping mechanism for the gravedancers who felt the need to morally distance themselves from the killer while still being happy about what he did. This has backfired spectacularly, because a lot more people noticed that than you think.
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What are you trying to say?   How has his motives or associations been proven in any capacity for you to say this?
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if we’re going by the narrative, it is absolutely cope to think a groyper, of all people, is going to engrave “bella ciao” and “hey fascist catch” on bullets to assassinate charlie kirk

also, maga parents ≠ maga kid, kids of conservative parents rebel by turning left, a tale as old as time

I for one, would NEVER believe anything coming from them w/o being able to 100% confirm it from multiple independent corroboration sources. These are the same people who lie blatantly about things you are seeing with your own eyes in real time in your actual life(not vids, news etc but in person), so yeah I’m calling bullshit on the texts etc.
 Now, as for would a groyper carve shit like that as well as kill somebody that kinda on their side? Yes absolutely. Gotta jump start that civil war somehow.
Not exactly the same but think Manson family. They committed a bunch of random murders of rich whitetrying to frame the panthers and kick off a race war. So yeah, it’s way more probable that’s the case.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on September 17, 2025, 08:56:03 PM
Did people a favor, Kimmel isn’t funny. Put Jay Mohr or someone that actually knows how to have a conversation with someone and doesn’t just laugh about bs.

He might not be that funny but old Rogan couldn’t even keep the man show afloat. That’s pretty fucking pathetic. Didn’t he also run away crying after someone that’s girlfriend/daughter/sister was on girls gone wild and they threatened to beat his ass?
‘Alpha male’ there!
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: The real veganshawn on September 18, 2025, 05:53:01 AM
Did people a favor, Kimmel isn’t funny. Put Jay Mohr or someone that actually knows how to have a conversation with someone and doesn’t just laugh about bs.
Kimmel is really funny, never heard of Jay Mohr
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mongo Lloyd on September 18, 2025, 06:01:38 AM
Did people a favor, Kimmel isn’t funny. Put Jay Mohr or someone that actually knows how to have a conversation with someone and doesn’t just laugh about bs.

Silencing dissenting speech against the state, and speech in general, is not something to lightly brush aside nor celebrate.

Everyone should be alarmed by this type of behavior. It doesn’t end with people standing on either the right or left, we are all equally impacted by this. The right will be impacted when it’s too late, and they realize the machine turned against them and never really represented them.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Monolithic Flick on September 18, 2025, 12:10:19 PM
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Did people a favor, Kimmel isn’t funny. Put Jay Mohr or someone that actually knows how to have a conversation with someone and doesn’t just laugh about bs.
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Silencing dissenting speech against the state, and speech in general, is not something to lightly brush aside nor celebrate.

Everyone should be alarmed by this type of behavior. It doesn’t end with people standing on either the right or left, we are all equally impacted by this. The right will be impacted when it’s too late, and they realize the machine turned against them and never really represented them.

Yeah, its really scary.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: JohnnyRamonePolitics on September 18, 2025, 12:16:04 PM
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Did people a favor, Kimmel isn’t funny. Put Jay Mohr or someone that actually knows how to have a conversation with someone and doesn’t just laugh about bs.
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Silencing dissenting speech against the state, and speech in general, is not something to lightly brush aside nor celebrate.

Everyone should be alarmed by this type of behavior. It doesn’t end with people standing on either the right or left, we are all equally impacted by this. The right will be impacted when it’s too late, and they realize the machine turned against them and never really represented them.

Trump was literally banned on all social media platforms for like 2 years, did you guys have the same feelings about that? Doubt it. Free speech only matters to you guys as long as it aligns with your viewpoints.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Painted Baby on September 18, 2025, 12:35:32 PM
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Did people a favor, Kimmel isn’t funny. Put Jay Mohr or someone that actually knows how to have a conversation with someone and doesn’t just laugh about bs.
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Silencing dissenting speech against the state, and speech in general, is not something to lightly brush aside nor celebrate.

Everyone should be alarmed by this type of behavior. It doesn’t end with people standing on either the right or left, we are all equally impacted by this. The right will be impacted when it’s too late, and they realize the machine turned against them and never really represented them.
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Trump was literally banned on all social media platforms for like 2 years, did you guys have the same feelings about that? Doubt it. Free speech only matters to you guys as long as it aligns with your viewpoints.
There's a pretty clear difference between publicly traded social media platforms not wanting to host repeat offenders, which they are under no legal obligation to do, and the head of the FCC asserting pressure on ABC leadership because a guy they don't like made what may or may not turn out to be a factual error. Where is your outrage for Brian Kilmeade's suggestion that we should forcibly execute homeless people?

As far as whether the alleged shooter was or wasn't a Groyper, realize we are getting a managed behind the scenes look at the investigation that normally we wouldn't be aware of. Why were we able to read text messages that assert that there is a letter but then the letter itself was destroyed but then recovered somehow but not released? It took less than than 24 hours for pundits on the left and right to start questioning the legitimacy of those released text exchanges. If we're saying he couldn't be on the right because of who he loved, I would suggest that you are getting a take from an aging political class and legacy media that is way behind the curve in regards to what's really going on in online spaces. Here's an edit of a livestream where Nick Fuentes goes on a date with an Australian far right content producer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ggboca2rkrM
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: HeadInLionsMouth on September 18, 2025, 12:37:41 PM
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Did people a favor, Kimmel isn’t funny. Put Jay Mohr or someone that actually knows how to have a conversation with someone and doesn’t just laugh about bs.
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Silencing dissenting speech against the state, and speech in general, is not something to lightly brush aside nor celebrate.

Everyone should be alarmed by this type of behavior. It doesn’t end with people standing on either the right or left, we are all equally impacted by this. The right will be impacted when it’s too late, and they realize the machine turned against them and never really represented them.
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Trump was literally banned on all social media platforms for like 2 years, did you guys have the same feelings about that? Doubt it. Free speech only matters to you guys as long as it aligns with your viewpoints.

It baffles me that you can't tell the difference. Kimmel being taken off the air is censorship by proxy. It's the government pressuring private action, and that is a violation of the First Amendment. It is also so fucking clearly happening because Nexstar wants to merge with another company so they can acquire more stations, and they can't do that without the FCC's approval. DT being banned on social media was a consequence he earned that was handed down from those individual companies for violating their individual rules of conduct.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on September 18, 2025, 12:49:55 PM
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Did people a favor, Kimmel isn’t funny. Put Jay Mohr or someone that actually knows how to have a conversation with someone and doesn’t just laugh about bs.
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Silencing dissenting speech against the state, and speech in general, is not something to lightly brush aside nor celebrate.

Everyone should be alarmed by this type of behavior. It doesn’t end with people standing on either the right or left, we are all equally impacted by this. The right will be impacted when it’s too late, and they realize the machine turned against them and never really represented them.
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Trump was literally banned on all social media platforms for like 2 years, did you guys have the same feelings about that? Doubt it. Free speech only matters to you guys as long as it aligns with your viewpoints.

This response tells me you don’t understand censorship and the first amendment without you having to say it.

There’s a BIG difference between language violating terms of service with a private company — which he did and was banned for until Elon bought it and released him from Twitter jail — and the government surpressing your speech.

Free speech in general doesn’t mean freedom from reprecussions. Like if he went on air and said the n-word, then yea, take him off.

But Free Speech in terms of the First Amendment means the government can’t surpress you. Which is the care here because he said something that Trump and MAGA didn’t like (not hate, just observational commentary) and Trump used his power and position to pressure the FCC to basically create a quid-pro-quo — removing Kimmel to approve a merger.

This is attempted control of the media by the government. Which is also out of the Project 2025 playbook.

Much like Trump banning certain media sources from the  White House press room because he deems them “fake” while putting known propaganders like Tim Pool, Newsmax, and Fox right up front.

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mongo Lloyd on September 18, 2025, 01:00:46 PM
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Did people a favor, Kimmel isn’t funny. Put Jay Mohr or someone that actually knows how to have a conversation with someone and doesn’t just laugh about bs.
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Silencing dissenting speech against the state, and speech in general, is not something to lightly brush aside nor celebrate.

Everyone should be alarmed by this type of behavior. It doesn’t end with people standing on either the right or left, we are all equally impacted by this. The right will be impacted when it’s too late, and they realize the machine turned against them and never really represented them.
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Trump was literally banned on all social media platforms for like 2 years, did you guys have the same feelings about that? Doubt it. Free speech only matters to you guys as long as it aligns with your viewpoints.
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It baffles me that you can't tell the difference. Kimmel being taken off the air is censorship by proxy. It's the government pressuring private action, and that is a violation of the First Amendment. It is also so fucking clearly happening because Nexstar wants to merge with another company so they can acquire more stations, and they can't do that without the FCC's approval. DT being banned on social media was a consequence he earned that was handed down from those individual companies for violating their individual rules of conduct.

Thank you, but that poster DOES know what he’s doing with his bad faith whataboutism style argument. He probably also doesn’t want to mention that his guy was using social media to deliberately lie to and mislead the masses, as well as foment an insurrection.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on September 18, 2025, 01:08:01 PM
Tasty is correct here. There is a difference between a private company having terms of service and the government censoring people directly or indirectly through the threat of (targeted) "regulation" because a comedian said something someone in authority didn't like.

However, I think the even easier distinction here is inciting a riot at the Capitol is not even close to pointing out that Trump's grievance--one of the most selfish people on the planet--might have been performance and a bad one at that since he was more interested in discussing the construction of a ballroom (lol, man of the working class) and then went on vacation instead of attending the funeral.

The issue we face is businesses are caving to Trump's authoritarianism and his cabinet meetings look like they could be held in N. Korea. And, our media, in search of profits in a moment when streaming has really hurt profits, is willing to turn itself into same traditional media environment we see in Russia. That leaves us at the whim of YouTube and the podcasts, who likely see positive times ahead, but it is partially their algorithms that create these problems. I searched YouTube for some silly rocketship gambling game, I had Jordan Peterson and Carlson clogging up my suggestions immediately after.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: JohnnyRamonePolitics on September 18, 2025, 01:12:24 PM
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Did people a favor, Kimmel isn’t funny. Put Jay Mohr or someone that actually knows how to have a conversation with someone and doesn’t just laugh about bs.
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Silencing dissenting speech against the state, and speech in general, is not something to lightly brush aside nor celebrate.

Everyone should be alarmed by this type of behavior. It doesn’t end with people standing on either the right or left, we are all equally impacted by this. The right will be impacted when it’s too late, and they realize the machine turned against them and never really represented them.
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Trump was literally banned on all social media platforms for like 2 years, did you guys have the same feelings about that? Doubt it. Free speech only matters to you guys as long as it aligns with your viewpoints.
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It baffles me that you can't tell the difference. Kimmel being taken off the air is censorship by proxy. It's the government pressuring private action, and that is a violation of the First Amendment. It is also so fucking clearly happening because Nexstar wants to merge with another company so they can acquire more stations, and they can't do that without the FCC's approval. DT being banned on social media was a consequence he earned that was handed down from those individual companies for violating their individual rules of conduct.

I’m sure this hurts to read
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Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mongo Lloyd on September 18, 2025, 01:21:39 PM
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Did people a favor, Kimmel isn’t funny. Put Jay Mohr or someone that actually knows how to have a conversation with someone and doesn’t just laugh about bs.
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Silencing dissenting speech against the state, and speech in general, is not something to lightly brush aside nor celebrate.

Everyone should be alarmed by this type of behavior. It doesn’t end with people standing on either the right or left, we are all equally impacted by this. The right will be impacted when it’s too late, and they realize the machine turned against them and never really represented them.
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Trump was literally banned on all social media platforms for like 2 years, did you guys have the same feelings about that? Doubt it. Free speech only matters to you guys as long as it aligns with your viewpoints.
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It baffles me that you can't tell the difference. Kimmel being taken off the air is censorship by proxy. It's the government pressuring private action, and that is a violation of the First Amendment. It is also so fucking clearly happening because Nexstar wants to merge with another company so they can acquire more stations, and they can't do that without the FCC's approval. DT being banned on social media was a consequence he earned that was handed down from those individual companies for violating their individual rules of conduct.
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I’m sure this hurts to read
(https://i.ibb.co/Y4G9rtC0/IMG-4791.png)

No one is emotionally invested quite like a cultist right winger, so no.. it doesn’t hurt to read.

Social media shouldn’t be pushing/platforming propaganda and deliberately false information.

It’s not even a left/right issue.

Again with the whataboutism (which is actually a divisive Russian social tactic). It’s not a strong argument my guy.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Texas_Tone on September 18, 2025, 01:35:14 PM
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Did people a favor, Kimmel isn’t funny. Put Jay Mohr or someone that actually knows how to have a conversation with someone and doesn’t just laugh about bs.
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Silencing dissenting speech against the state, and speech in general, is not something to lightly brush aside nor celebrate.

Everyone should be alarmed by this type of behavior. It doesn’t end with people standing on either the right or left, we are all equally impacted by this. The right will be impacted when it’s too late, and they realize the machine turned against them and never really represented them.
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Trump was literally banned on all social media platforms for like 2 years, did you guys have the same feelings about that? Doubt it. Free speech only matters to you guys as long as it aligns with your viewpoints.

Welcome back marinara, go fuck yourself
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on September 18, 2025, 01:40:04 PM
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Did people a favor, Kimmel isn’t funny. Put Jay Mohr or someone that actually knows how to have a conversation with someone and doesn’t just laugh about bs.
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Silencing dissenting speech against the state, and speech in general, is not something to lightly brush aside nor celebrate.

Everyone should be alarmed by this type of behavior. It doesn’t end with people standing on either the right or left, we are all equally impacted by this. The right will be impacted when it’s too late, and they realize the machine turned against them and never really represented them.
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Trump was literally banned on all social media platforms for like 2 years, did you guys have the same feelings about that? Doubt it. Free speech only matters to you guys as long as it aligns with your viewpoints.
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It baffles me that you can't tell the difference. Kimmel being taken off the air is censorship by proxy. It's the government pressuring private action, and that is a violation of the First Amendment. It is also so fucking clearly happening because Nexstar wants to merge with another company so they can acquire more stations, and they can't do that without the FCC's approval. DT being banned on social media was a consequence he earned that was handed down from those individual companies for violating their individual rules of conduct.
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I’m sure this hurts to read
(https://i.ibb.co/Y4G9rtC0/IMG-4791.png)

Again, this post tells us that you don’t read anything beyond the headline which is written for sensationalism and click-thrus.

If you read the article, he said the White House would ask Meta to remove “humor and satire content” recolving around COVID19. The White House was trying to limit misinformation when it came to the pandemic. Zuckerberg opted not to because of profit.

Like said above, the dangers of using social media as a source of information is that there’s no way to truly vett what is correct and what is misinformation — which is what all the Russian interference was based off of.




Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on September 18, 2025, 01:58:27 PM
I'll agree that some mistakes were made during the Biden admin when they were trying to protect public health and prevent deaths/the healthcare system from being overwhelmed. But, first, let's remember that motive here is key. Protecting Americans from injecting bleach into their bodies or sucking down horse medications, is not the same as protecting the image or feelings of a president. Second, let's get some of the facts straight:

"[Amy Coney Barret] said, the plaintiffs who brought the case maintained that the White House had bombarded Twitter with requests to set up a streamlined process for censorship requests. But in fact, she said, the record showed no such requests. Rather, on one occasion a White House official asked Twitter to remove a fake account pretending to be the account of Biden's granddaughter. Twitter took down the fake account and told the official about a portal that could be used in the future to flag similar issues."

Asking social media not to present covid misinformation is not the same as taking away licenses or suing companies for billions because they criticize a political "leader." If this was an "equal problem" AM radio stations who primarily pay the bills through outrage content would have been taken off the air long ago.

(https://i.ibb.co/tTjHjStV/Screenshot-2025-09-18-at-1-47-00-PM.png)

And let's not forget all the lawsuits Trump has against people saying things that don't flatter him enough. I'm trying to find a list of lawsuits Biden had against people who said mean things about him. Nothing is coming up for me. But, let's hear more about how both sides are equally wrong.
https://www.axios.com/2025/07/22/trump-lawsuits-wsj-npr-pbs

We are quickly becoming Belarus, a country where pointing out the leader is bald will no go over well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27FpoRiStgk
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: h00man on September 18, 2025, 04:30:15 PM
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Did people a favor, Kimmel isn’t funny. Put Jay Mohr or someone that actually knows how to have a conversation with someone and doesn’t just laugh about bs.
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Silencing dissenting speech against the state, and speech in general, is not something to lightly brush aside nor celebrate.

Everyone should be alarmed by this type of behavior. It doesn’t end with people standing on either the right or left, we are all equally impacted by this. The right will be impacted when it’s too late, and they realize the machine turned against them and never really represented them.
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Trump was literally banned on all social media platforms for like 2 years, did you guys have the same feelings about that? Doubt it. Free speech only matters to you guys as long as it aligns with your viewpoints.

spreading false information does NOT equal freedom of speech....

It's hilarious how people claiming "mah freedumb of speeech" don't even know what it means, and thinks it gives them a right to spew hateful racist and dangerous shit from their mouths.....

You're literally a dumbass
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on September 18, 2025, 05:59:48 PM
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Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Shapelessness on September 18, 2025, 07:02:02 PM
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The idea that anyone really thought the killer was a Nick Fuentes fan is pretty amusing.

It was a painfully obvious coping mechanism for the gravedancers who felt the need to morally distance themselves from the killer while still being happy about what he did. This has backfired spectacularly, because a lot more people noticed that than you think.
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What are you trying to say?   How has his motives or associations been proven in any capacity for you to say this?
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if we’re going by the narrative, it is absolutely cope to think a groyper, of all people, is going to engrave “bella ciao” and “hey fascist catch” on bullets to assassinate charlie kirk

also, maga parents ≠ maga kid, kids of conservative parents rebel by turning left, a tale as old as time
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What about “if you’re reading this, you’re gay”?   Or the Owo one?   Sounds like dumb internet shit

Isn’t the whole point of this person like the Minnesota person is to have a bunch of contradictory opinions and beliefs to hide behind
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by prefacing my last post with “if we’re going by the narrative”, i mean i also don’t trust what we are being told. but going off of that no i don’t think he’s of the same nihilistic strain as the minneapolis shooter. “owo what’s this” and “if you’re reading this you’re gay” is like chapo-tier shit.
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Im not that plugged into the internet or discord or wherever this stuff comes from to know.   Don’t even know what chapo-tier means.  I’m aware of chapo trap house…
Speaking of Chapo Trap House, their sept 18 episode is worth a listen. They refer to T. Robinson as a "meme-kid" and i think i agree.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: JohnnyRamonePolitics on September 18, 2025, 07:18:58 PM
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Did people a favor, Kimmel isn’t funny. Put Jay Mohr or someone that actually knows how to have a conversation with someone and doesn’t just laugh about bs.
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Silencing dissenting speech against the state, and speech in general, is not something to lightly brush aside nor celebrate.

Everyone should be alarmed by this type of behavior. It doesn’t end with people standing on either the right or left, we are all equally impacted by this. The right will be impacted when it’s too late, and they realize the machine turned against them and never really represented them.
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Trump was literally banned on all social media platforms for like 2 years, did you guys have the same feelings about that? Doubt it. Free speech only matters to you guys as long as it aligns with your viewpoints.
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spreading false information does NOT equal freedom of speech....

It's hilarious how people claiming "mah freedumb of speeech" don't even know what it means, and thinks it gives them a right to spew hateful racist and dangerous shit from their mouths.....

You're literally a dumbass

Jimmy Kimmel literally did that buddy
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: JANUS on September 18, 2025, 07:39:10 PM
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Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Democratic Republic Of Mongo on September 18, 2025, 07:51:50 PM
Kimmel got canceled for falling for the same shit Slap did.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on September 18, 2025, 08:02:29 PM
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Did people a favor, Kimmel isn’t funny. Put Jay Mohr or someone that actually knows how to have a conversation with someone and doesn’t just laugh about bs.
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Silencing dissenting speech against the state, and speech in general, is not something to lightly brush aside nor celebrate.

Everyone should be alarmed by this type of behavior. It doesn’t end with people standing on either the right or left, we are all equally impacted by this. The right will be impacted when it’s too late, and they realize the machine turned against them and never really represented them.
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Trump was literally banned on all social media platforms for like 2 years, did you guys have the same feelings about that? Doubt it. Free speech only matters to you guys as long as it aligns with your viewpoints.
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spreading false information does NOT equal freedom of speech....

It's hilarious how people claiming "mah freedumb of speeech" don't even know what it means, and thinks it gives them a right to spew hateful racist and dangerous shit from their mouths.....

You're literally a dumbass
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Jimmy Kimmel literally did that buddy

Bruh, based off this response, it’s apparent you don’t know that you’re supposed to stop pushing the q-tip in once you start to feel resistance.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on September 18, 2025, 08:43:02 PM
Kimmel got canceled for falling for the same shit Slap did.

He didn’t get cancelled
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Shapelessness on September 18, 2025, 09:23:42 PM
So I wonder what will happen with south park. Just saw they posted somethin saying the ep wasnt finished. Could be some truth in that.
They've been roastin the fuck outta that dude.
Are they being silenced? What yall think?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on September 18, 2025, 09:46:16 PM
So I wonder what will happen with south park. Just saw they posted somethin saying the ep wasnt finished. Could be some truth in that.
They've been roastin the fuck outta that dude.
Are they being silenced? What yall think?

I think it’s exactly what they said.   They work on it six days before it airs and they probably wanted to get it really right and it took them a little more time.   
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on September 18, 2025, 09:49:39 PM
So I wonder what will happen with south park. Just saw they posted somethin saying the ep wasnt finished. Could be some truth in that.
They've been roastin the fuck outta that dude.
Are they being silenced? What yall think?

In my opinion, they probably had a roast or two about him in the episode but pivoted out of respect for the dead.

Even Kirk’s producer says Kirk liked being saterized on the show and said he’d want the episode back up.

https://variety.com/2025/tv/news/charlie-kirk-would-want-south-park-episode-to-air-1236523230/
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: alien porkchop on September 18, 2025, 11:02:00 PM
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Did people a favor, Kimmel isn’t funny. Put Jay Mohr or someone that actually knows how to have a conversation with someone and doesn’t just laugh about bs.
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Silencing dissenting speech against the state, and speech in general, is not something to lightly brush aside nor celebrate.

Everyone should be alarmed by this type of behavior. It doesn’t end with people standing on either the right or left, we are all equally impacted by this. The right will be impacted when it’s too late, and they realize the machine turned against them and never really represented them.
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Trump was literally banned on all social media platforms for like 2 years, did you guys have the same feelings about that? Doubt it. Free speech only matters to you guys as long as it aligns with your viewpoints.
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spreading false information does NOT equal freedom of speech....

It's hilarious how people claiming "mah freedumb of speeech" don't even know what it means, and thinks it gives them a right to spew hateful racist and dangerous shit from their mouths.....

You're literally a dumbass
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Jimmy Kimmel literally did that buddy

i always light the tractor tire on fire before i start lifting off the ground and flipping it over. if you do it fast enough you can put the fire out. anything less is bitch shit. but you already know.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: S. on September 18, 2025, 11:43:03 PM
American political discussions are so depressing^

You are not even talking about anything you are just trying to make the other side look worse!

You should be against much of the shit Trump is doing even as a Republican. He‘s eroding the democratic system itself… who is to say a democratic president won’t use the same tactics against you?

Everyone should agree that government pressure to silence oppositional voices is a problem.

Another thing that should be talked about is the absolute power of social media companies. It is a problem when the digital town square is owned by Musk and Zuckerberg and they record every single word that is said and can incentivize speech and to a large extent even create digital reality itself. They should be forced to disclose their algorithms. It should be transparent like the ingredients of food products.

Also, Why are these monopolies not broken up?

Both sides should agree to this.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on September 19, 2025, 06:35:13 AM
American political discussions are so depressing^

You are not even talking about anything you are just trying to make the other side look worse!

This is the major problem with the American two-party system — no compromise is needed, just majority. And until a major third party comes along it will be like this again and again.

Prior to Trump’s first administration, there used to be some reaching across the aisle when it came to some issues but now, you can see why Trump and GOP were pushing mid-term redistricting because with Congressional majority in both the House and Senate, there’s no need to reach across the aisle — it’s about getting power and staying in power.


Also, Why are these monopolies not broken up?


In a rudimentary reasoning: Lassiez-Faire. The belief of little to no Government interference in business. Also combined with the 90s ruling led by Mitch McConnell to let more money into politics by allowing corporate lobbying simply let these businesses buy their way into legislation.

Look at Kyrsten Sinema who ran to help the people, took corporate money, and all her decisions as a Senator were based on who funded her campaign. Basically a huge 180 of her promises when on the campaign trail.

It’s why tobacco, oil, NRA, etc., can get away with so much, because they can effect the economy and people’s political future. Campaigning is hard and expensive, so people who work for their corporate lobby get to stay in power and once there, no longer needing to listen to the people they represent. Much like why those who take 6/7-figure donations from the NRA are also the ones who are the quickest to move on from gun violence and kill any kind of gun legislaton. Same with those who take money from Oil — fighting climate control and environmental laws and regulation.

Both sides should agree to this.

Bernie Sanders delivered a lecture that best described this in the early 2000s, that the best way to pass the legislation you want is to divide people on every issue, no matter how small. Keeping the people divided is a distraction that has us constantly at each other’s throats.

https://youtu.be/aHTeMTC4aTg?si=5c8_5lcaPvOo2Q-A
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Billy Bitchcakes on September 19, 2025, 07:16:51 AM
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Did people a favor, Kimmel isn’t funny. Put Jay Mohr or someone that actually knows how to have a conversation with someone and doesn’t just laugh about bs.
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Silencing dissenting speech against the state, and speech in general, is not something to lightly brush aside nor celebrate.

Everyone should be alarmed by this type of behavior. It doesn’t end with people standing on either the right or left, we are all equally impacted by this. The right will be impacted when it’s too late, and they realize the machine turned against them and never really represented them.
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Trump was literally banned on all social media platforms for like 2 years, did you guys have the same feelings about that? Doubt it. Free speech only matters to you guys as long as it aligns with your viewpoints.
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spreading false information does NOT equal freedom of speech....

It's hilarious how people claiming "mah freedumb of speeech" don't even know what it means, and thinks it gives them a right to spew hateful racist and dangerous shit from their mouths.....

You're literally a dumbass
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Jimmy Kimmel literally did that buddy

What did Jimmy Kimmel say that was untrue?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
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Did people a favor, Kimmel isn’t funny. Put Jay Mohr or someone that actually knows how to have a conversation with someone and doesn’t just laugh about bs.
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Silencing dissenting speech against the state, and speech in general, is not something to lightly brush aside nor celebrate.

Everyone should be alarmed by this type of behavior. It doesn’t end with people standing on either the right or left, we are all equally impacted by this. The right will be impacted when it’s too late, and they realize the machine turned against them and never really represented them.
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Trump was literally banned on all social media platforms for like 2 years, did you guys have the same feelings about that? Doubt it. Free speech only matters to you guys as long as it aligns with your viewpoints.
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spreading false information does NOT equal freedom of speech....

It's hilarious how people claiming "mah freedumb of speeech" don't even know what it means, and thinks it gives them a right to spew hateful racist and dangerous shit from their mouths.....

You're literally a dumbass
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Jimmy Kimmel literally did that buddy
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What did Jimmy Kimmel say that was untrue?

LOL. We all know they didn’t listen/read what Kimmel said. They just read a screenshot of Trump’s Truth Social post and went off that.

Independent thinking isn’t their strong suit.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mongo Lloyd on September 19, 2025, 07:58:02 AM
Yes, like @S. Said, and I mentioned earlier. The erosion of rights affects us all. This isn’t even about sides.

Furthermore, this is all co-signed by our capitalist overlords. If all you see is left or right, and are too dumb to realize your rights are being stripped from above then you’re oblivious to the absolute truth.

Right wing voters need to wake up. Where you guys fail is you continue to champion politicians who are taking from all of us, not just those of on the left. The left is struggling trying to hold their own accountable for only concerning themselves with the interests of their donors, and who are doing the very same thing. The left calls the right daft because they don’t see what’s really happening, they just cheer on the attacks while all of us are equally being damaged.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: SmashtheState on September 19, 2025, 08:27:34 AM
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Did people a favor, Kimmel isn’t funny. Put Jay Mohr or someone that actually knows how to have a conversation with someone and doesn’t just laugh about bs.
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Silencing dissenting speech against the state, and speech in general, is not something to lightly brush aside nor celebrate.

Everyone should be alarmed by this type of behavior. It doesn’t end with people standing on either the right or left, we are all equally impacted by this. The right will be impacted when it’s too late, and they realize the machine turned against them and never really represented them.
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Trump was literally banned on all social media platforms for like 2 years, did you guys have the same feelings about that? Doubt it. Free speech only matters to you guys as long as it aligns with your viewpoints.
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Welcome back marinara, go fuck yourself
This timeline fucking sucks. Fuck this country and it's politics. Honestly it's so exhausting that eating a bullet sounds quite appetizing.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: S. on September 19, 2025, 11:32:02 AM
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American political discussions are so depressing^

You are not even talking about anything you are just trying to make the other side look worse!
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This is the major problem with the American two-party system — no compromise is needed, just majority. And until a major third party comes along it will be like this again and again.

Prior to Trump’s first administration, there used to be some reaching across the aisle when it came to some issues but now, you can see why Trump and GOP were pushing mid-term redistricting because with Congressional majority in both the House and Senate, there’s no need to reach across the aisle — it’s about getting power and staying in power.

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In a rudimentary reasoning: Lassiez-Faire. The belief of little to no Government interference in business. Also combined with the 90s ruling led by Mitch McConnell to let more money into politics by allowing corporate lobbying simply let these businesses buy their way into legislation.

Look at Kyrsten Sinema who ran to help the people, took corporate money, and all her decisions as a Senator were based on who funded her campaign. Basically a huge 180 of her promises when on the campaign trail.

It’s why tobacco, oil, NRA, etc., can get away with so much, because they can effect the economy and people’s political future. Campaigning is hard and expensive, so people who work for their corporate lobby get to stay in power and once there, no longer needing to listen to the people they represent. Much like why those who take 6/7-figure donations from the NRA are also the ones who are the quickest to move on from gun violence and kill any kind of gun legislaton. Same with those who take money from Oil — fighting climate control and environmental laws and regulation.

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Both sides should agree to this.
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Bernie Sanders delivered a lecture that best described this in the early 2000s, that the best way to pass the legislation you want is to divide people on every issue, no matter how small. Keeping the people divided is a distraction that has us constantly at each other’s throats.

https://youtu.be/aHTeMTC4aTg?si=5c8_5lcaPvOo2Q-A

„ In a rudimentary reasoning: Lassiez-Faire. “ but with a monopoly there is no more competition…. In a way a company like Amazon controls an entire market place. It is not companies competing in the free market place. It is companies competing in a marketplace dictated and controlled by amazon.  Like a privately owned communist economy within the economy.


Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: mattchew on September 19, 2025, 12:20:16 PM
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Did people a favor, Kimmel isn’t funny. Put Jay Mohr or someone that actually knows how to have a conversation with someone and doesn’t just laugh about bs.
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Silencing dissenting speech against the state, and speech in general, is not something to lightly brush aside nor celebrate.

Everyone should be alarmed by this type of behavior. It doesn’t end with people standing on either the right or left, we are all equally impacted by this. The right will be impacted when it’s too late, and they realize the machine turned against them and never really represented them.
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Trump was literally banned on all social media platforms for like 2 years, did you guys have the same feelings about that? Doubt it. Free speech only matters to you guys as long as it aligns with your viewpoints.
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Welcome back marinara, go fuck yourself
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This timeline fucking sucks. Fuck this country and it's politics. Honestly it's so exhausting that eating a bullet sounds quite appetizing.

I know it’s ruthless out there but maintain hope and stay safe homie, they want you dead, stay alive to resist them.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: SmashtheState on September 19, 2025, 12:28:37 PM
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Did people a favor, Kimmel isn’t funny. Put Jay Mohr or someone that actually knows how to have a conversation with someone and doesn’t just laugh about bs.
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Silencing dissenting speech against the state, and speech in general, is not something to lightly brush aside nor celebrate.

Everyone should be alarmed by this type of behavior. It doesn’t end with people standing on either the right or left, we are all equally impacted by this. The right will be impacted when it’s too late, and they realize the machine turned against them and never really represented them.
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Trump was literally banned on all social media platforms for like 2 years, did you guys have the same feelings about that? Doubt it. Free speech only matters to you guys as long as it aligns with your viewpoints.
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Welcome back marinara, go fuck yourself
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This timeline fucking sucks. Fuck this country and it's politics. Honestly it's so exhausting that eating a bullet sounds quite appetizing.
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I know it’s ruthless out there but maintain hope and stay safe homie, they want you dead, stay alive to resist them.
I have my wife to lean on and that's a lot more than others so I am grateful eternally for her kindness and patience.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Painted Baby on September 19, 2025, 02:42:59 PM
I don't think I can be in a conversation about lobbying and not talk about AIPAC. That lobby is probably the reason Trump ultimately won and they continue to keep the Democratic party in a useless state of perpetual infighting. Look at all the resistance to Democratic Socialism that's coming from establishment figures like Hakeem Jeffries even after the party endorsed Zohran Mamdani. The establishment Dems want to roll everything back to 2012 when almost no one in the party wants to return to those politics. Those Dems who have proven themselves utterly useless as opposition remain in power due to their connections to AIPAC. Kamala ignored the genocide in Gaza because her advisors were afraid AIPAC would dump a bunch of money into the opposition campaign. Too bad Elon Musk went ahead and did that anyway. Shoulda rolled the dice on that one. Basically it's like everyone else has said - money has fucked our two party system to pieces.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on September 19, 2025, 04:43:42 PM
Credit where credits due: Ted Cruz is speaking out against the FCC while a shit ton of house dems vote to honor CK
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Post by: TastyBurrito on September 19, 2025, 04:48:24 PM
Credit where credits due: Ted Cruz is speaking out against the FCC while a shit ton of house dems vote to honor CK

I also hate that I agree with Ted and Tucker Carlson’s stance on the FCC.

WTF timeline is this?!
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mongo Lloyd on September 19, 2025, 04:52:37 PM
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Credit where credits due: Ted Cruz is speaking out against the FCC while a shit ton of house dems vote to honor CK
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I also hate that I agree with Ted and Tucker Carlson’s stance on the FCC.

WTF timeline is this?!

Tell me about it, I felt similarly about MTG in regards to the Epstein files.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: prettyeasytoday on September 19, 2025, 05:02:19 PM
Look at all the resistance to Democratic Socialism that's coming from establishment figures like Hakeem Jeffries even after the party endorsed Zohran Mamdani.

America's persuadable middle seems not to like progressives lately
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Painted Baby on September 19, 2025, 07:52:51 PM
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Look at all the resistance to Democratic Socialism that's coming from establishment figures like Hakeem Jeffries even after the party endorsed Zohran Mamdani.
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America's persuadable middle seems not to like progressives lately
I think you're missing the point. It's not moderates that don't like progressives. It's the party leadership. They'd rather make up moderate voters in their head like Chuck Schumer's Baileys then engage with honestly anyone let alone persuadable moderates. What they're serving is what was already rejected.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on September 19, 2025, 08:37:25 PM
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I think you're missing the point. It's not moderates that don't like progressives. It's the party leadership. They'd rather make up moderate voters in their head like Chuck Schumer's Baileys then engage with honestly anyone let alone persuadable moderates. What they're serving is what was already rejected.

dNC is run by a bunch of out of touch fucks who are led by the dick by consultants and focus groups and they won’t ever stretch out of the comfort zone and attempt to attract voters in states that are red even though effective messaging in rural areas the will be decimated by china not buying soy beans, bbb gutting rural amenities and support, and so on.   
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: prettyeasytoday on September 19, 2025, 08:54:13 PM
not trying at all to argue with you guys but neither of those responses make much sense and don't really relate to the point i made. persuadable voters make up their own minds and arent voting for progressive candidates in many major races
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: The real veganshawn on September 19, 2025, 10:50:33 PM
not trying at all to argue with you guys but neither of those responses make much sense and don't really relate to the point i made. persuadable voters make up their own minds and arent voting for progressive candidates in many major races
Next mayor of NYC is really progressive
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: PolkaV on September 20, 2025, 11:16:37 AM
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Silencing dissenting speech against the state, and speech in general, is not something to lightly brush aside nor celebrate.

Everyone should be alarmed by this type of behavior. It doesn’t end with people standing on either the right or left, we are all equally impacted by this. The right will be impacted when it’s too late, and they realize the machine turned against them and never really represented them.
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Trump was literally banned on all social media platforms for like 2 years, did you guys have the same feelings about that? Doubt it. Free speech only matters to you guys as long as it aligns with your viewpoints.
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This response tells me you don’t understand censorship and the first amendment without you having to say it.

There’s a BIG difference between language violating terms of service with a private company — which he did and was banned for until Elon bought it and released him from Twitter jail — and the government surpressing your speech.

Free speech in general doesn’t mean freedom from reprecussions. Like if he went on air and said the n-word, then yea, take him off.

But Free Speech in terms of the First Amendment means the government can’t surpress you. Which is the care here because he said something that Trump and MAGA didn’t like (not hate, just observational commentary) and Trump used his power and position to pressure the FCC to basically create a quid-pro-quo — removing Kimmel to approve a merger.

This is attempted control of the media by the government. Which is also out of the Project 2025 playbook.

Much like Trump banning certain media sources from the  White House press room because he deems them “fake” while putting known propaganders like Tim Pool, Newsmax, and Fox right up front.

I think you're defeating your own argument here.

Broadcasting requires a license in the USA, hence it's not a right.  Anytime you need a license to do something, the privilege is bestowed upon you by the body granting you the license.  First amendment rights do not apply on the radio or television.

In the last five years, the FBI and CDC were telling social media platforms what to censor.  You do not need a license to host a website (yet).  This example would be far closer to your idea of government interference and censorship.

I'm not taking a political side here one way or another, just trying to be objective.  If you want to be objective, then it comes down to money, as EVERYTHING in this country does.  Kimmel's ratings were dropping to begin with.  If he's gonna say things that affect their viewership and ad revenue, then ABC is gonna have to do something about it.  Furthermore, Disney doesn't want to be associated with that act when they're trying to market their trash to children.

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: S. on September 20, 2025, 11:54:10 AM
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Did people a favor, Kimmel isn’t funny. Put Jay Mohr or someone that actually knows how to have a conversation with someone and doesn’t just laugh about bs.
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Silencing dissenting speech against the state, and speech in general, is not something to lightly brush aside nor celebrate.

Everyone should be alarmed by this type of behavior. It doesn’t end with people standing on either the right or left, we are all equally impacted by this. The right will be impacted when it’s too late, and they realize the machine turned against them and never really represented them.
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Trump was literally banned on all social media platforms for like 2 years, did you guys have the same feelings about that? Doubt it. Free speech only matters to you guys as long as it aligns with your viewpoints.
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This response tells me you don’t understand censorship and the first amendment without you having to say it.

There’s a BIG difference between language violating terms of service with a private company — which he did and was banned for until Elon bought it and released him from Twitter jail — and the government surpressing your speech.

Free speech in general doesn’t mean freedom from reprecussions. Like if he went on air and said the n-word, then yea, take him off.

But Free Speech in terms of the First Amendment means the government can’t surpress you. Which is the care here because he said something that Trump and MAGA didn’t like (not hate, just observational commentary) and Trump used his power and position to pressure the FCC to basically create a quid-pro-quo — removing Kimmel to approve a merger.

This is attempted control of the media by the government. Which is also out of the Project 2025 playbook.

Much like Trump banning certain media sources from the  White House press room because he deems them “fake” while putting known propaganders like Tim Pool, Newsmax, and Fox right up front.
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I think you're defeating your own argument here.

Broadcasting requires a license in the USA, hence it's not a right.  Anytime you need a license to do something, the privilege is bestowed upon you by the body granting you the license.  First amendment rights do not apply on the radio or television.

In the last five years, the FBI and CDC were telling social media platforms what to censor.  You do not need a license to host a website (yet).  This example would be far closer to your idea of government interference and censorship.

I'm not taking a political side here one way or another, just trying to be objective.  If you want to be objective, then it comes down to money, as EVERYTHING in this country does.  Kimmel's ratings were dropping to begin with.  If he's gonna say things that affect their viewership and ad revenue, then ABC is gonna have to do something about it.  Furthermore, Disney doesn't want to be associated with that act when they're trying to market their trash to children.


“ First amendment rights do not apply on the radio or television.“
I am pretty sure this is just factually wrong. So you think the president should be able to dictate what is on the radio and on television? Even when it does not violate any rights?

“In the last five years, the FBI and CDC were telling social media platforms what to censor.  You do not need a license to host a website (yet).“ Social media platforms are not websites. I also don’t think anybody thinks that this kind of thing is OK. And if this has happened under a democratic president this doesn’t mean that Trump now has a right to pressure companies to remove people he doesn’t like. This argument is just a dumb whataboutism.

Also: It is a fucking problem that big companies in the US work so closely with the government. Remember Snowdon? Has Trump pardoned him yet?


Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on September 20, 2025, 12:01:13 PM
Bad faith "arguments"

Well, I'm glad we have someone with strong opinions who also tells us they aren't on one side or another. ::)

1. Discussing his ratings is an attempt reframe the narrative around what we all saw happen. Kimmel said something our authoritarian president's administration didn't like and to protect a merger from FCC retaliation Disney fired Kimmel.
2. The president had already tweeted his desire to censor Kimmel after successfully censoring Colbert.
3. First, Kimmel averaging over a million viewers per show. Putting him ahead of that dipshit Fallon and ahead of Myers. And, I imagine as YouTube and other streaming and short form digital services come in official ratings no longer tell the full story. (I haven't watched Bill Maher in a way that would count towards his ratings in years, since he releases pieces on YouTube.)


4. Aside from asking social media companies, "Please take down posts telling people to eat horse medications" what consequences did the state directly impose? Did they threaten to block mergers out of spite? Did they threaten to take away the licenses of all the AM radio stations that spent 80% complaining about Biden and liberals? Did Biden file a 15 billion dollar lawsuit against the NYTimes or ABC because he didn't like the way they discussed him?

5. Re-read the first amendment and re-read the FCC's documentation
https://www.fcc.gov/media/radio/public-and-broadcasting#:~:text=Reasonable%20Access.,in%20state%20and%20local%20elections.

Your disingenuous attempt to reframe the obvious is weak. If you are going to be objective, be useful bring information that is relevant. If you could find a comparable Biden tweet to this one that might be interesting, but you won't. Just like you won't find Biden suing for things that hurt his feelings.

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Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on September 20, 2025, 03:36:47 PM
Unreal. Bribes are just fine as long as you are in Trump's good graces.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/20/us/politics/tom-homan-fbi-trump.html

But not being in his good graces is a crime.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/20/us/politics/trump-justice-department-us-attorneys.html
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on September 20, 2025, 06:37:28 PM
It’s so funny when he goes after Fallon as if Fallon has ever said anything except for a little bit when he tried to get tough after he tousled Trumps hair

Also, remember if comedians are going to start being held to the standards of truthfulness - Joe Rogan still exists in Texas as apart of the only group allowed to smoke weed in the state
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on September 20, 2025, 06:47:12 PM
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Silencing dissenting speech against the state, and speech in general, is not something to lightly brush aside nor celebrate.

Everyone should be alarmed by this type of behavior. It doesn’t end with people standing on either the right or left, we are all equally impacted by this. The right will be impacted when it’s too late, and they realize the machine turned against them and never really represented them.
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Trump was literally banned on all social media platforms for like 2 years, did you guys have the same feelings about that? Doubt it. Free speech only matters to you guys as long as it aligns with your viewpoints.
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This response tells me you don’t understand censorship and the first amendment without you having to say it.

There’s a BIG difference between language violating terms of service with a private company — which he did and was banned for until Elon bought it and released him from Twitter jail — and the government surpressing your speech.

Free speech in general doesn’t mean freedom from reprecussions. Like if he went on air and said the n-word, then yea, take him off.

But Free Speech in terms of the First Amendment means the government can’t surpress you. Which is the care here because he said something that Trump and MAGA didn’t like (not hate, just observational commentary) and Trump used his power and position to pressure the FCC to basically create a quid-pro-quo — removing Kimmel to approve a merger.

This is attempted control of the media by the government. Which is also out of the Project 2025 playbook.

Much like Trump banning certain media sources from the  White House press room because he deems them “fake” while putting known propaganders like Tim Pool, Newsmax, and Fox right up front.
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I think you're defeating your own argument here.

Broadcasting requires a license in the USA, hence it's not a right.  Anytime you need a license to do something, the privilege is bestowed upon you by the body granting you the license.  First amendment rights do not apply on the radio or television.

In the last five years, the FBI and CDC were telling social media platforms what to censor.  You do not need a license to host a website (yet).  This example would be far closer to your idea of government interference and censorship.

I'm not taking a political side here one way or another, just trying to be objective.  If you want to be objective, then it comes down to money, as EVERYTHING in this country does.  Kimmel's ratings were dropping to begin with.  If he's gonna say things that affect their viewership and ad revenue, then ABC is gonna have to do something about it.  Furthermore, Disney doesn't want to be associated with that act when they're trying to market their trash to children.

Reading your responses, I really teeter between “you are dumb as shit” and “no way can someone be this fucking dumb.”
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Rusty Shackleford on September 20, 2025, 07:50:49 PM
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Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on September 20, 2025, 07:56:47 PM
Kimmel’s ratings aren’t dropping in a vacuum - it’s network tv minus live sports.   

The difference between Kimmel and Colbert is that Kimmel has lik 20M+ YouTube subscribers and connects with younger viewers on that app (Colbert has always skewed older and was weak in that regard).   Plus, he’s seen as the face of the network and was trotted out for years to host award shows like the Oscars that are hosted on ABC and when there’s premieres of big Disney properties across the street - they come over right after and have their promotional interviews at his show.   Fallon likewise does a lot of promotional material for NBc Universal and gameshows for them, while Colbert did his show and was never integrated into a struggling studio bc the Redstones were very bad with Paramount. 

Kimmel means/meant a lot to the brand and “struggling ratings” don’t matter as much as you or Trump think because other factors keep him on air.   The entire late night landscape struggles because we don’t watch tv the same way.   
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on September 20, 2025, 08:03:41 PM
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I would say “isn’t there something in the bible about worshipping false idols made of gold?” but we all know they don’t read and/or follow the bible. They just weaponize it.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Allen. on September 20, 2025, 08:26:25 PM
 So uh we’re fucked
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on September 20, 2025, 08:58:50 PM
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I would say “isn’t there something in the bible about worshipping false idols made of gold?” but we all know they don’t read and/or follow the bible. They just weaponize it.

Not to mention he also fits a lot of descriptions of the antichrist if you believe the left behind/dispensational eschatological version of revelation
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: WashingtonNECKTIE on September 20, 2025, 11:37:03 PM
So, uh... what do you guys make of the newly designated "terror" group in the US? Seems to be a major point we missed.
Can we predict the state wants to criminalize anyone who isn't a fascist?

Point B: any one with a brain should have seen nothing good would have come from the CK shooting
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on September 21, 2025, 01:23:48 AM
So, uh... what do you guys make of the newly designated "terror" group in the US? Seems to be a major point we missed.
Can we predict the state wants to criminalize anyone who isn't a fascist?

Point B: any one with a brain should have seen nothing good would have come from the CK shooting

Labeling ANTIFA as a terror group allows him and Pam Bondi to label anyone who protests him as a terrorist. FBI and CIA already proclaimed that ANTIFA is movement rather an organization like the Proud Boys and the KKK.

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on September 21, 2025, 09:44:04 AM
Trump using his platform to attack Biden and tell people not to feel bad for his cancer diagnosis. Love how the right says Trump doesn’t say anything hateful.

Well, if it weren’t for double standards, they’d have no standards at all.

https://youtu.be/JjIM6V7k1HU?si=0OXiQ38EM3l7gjJq
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: ToySanta on September 21, 2025, 03:52:45 PM
He’s got a statue too.. they’re bending over backwards to explain how this isn’t an idol:

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Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on September 21, 2025, 04:20:02 PM
He’a got a statue too.. they’re bending over backwards to explain how this isn’t an idol:

(https://www.opindia.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/Trump-Golden-statue-with-bitcoin-2025-09-18-14-32-38.jpg)


I didn’t get at first this was meant to be a positive thing
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on September 21, 2025, 05:00:00 PM
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He’a got a statue too.. they’re bending over backwards to explain how this isn’t an idol:

(https://www.opindia.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/Trump-Golden-statue-with-bitcoin-2025-09-18-14-32-38.jpg)
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I didn’t get at first this was meant to be a positive thing

Is…is…is that real? Feels AI generated. Also, I doubt Trump would allow a statue to be made of him that doesn’t look as if he had a Rambo-esque physique.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on September 21, 2025, 05:49:31 PM
So uh we’re fucked

We’ve been fucked for a few decades but we’re going to be really fucking screwed when the new axis powers decide to attack us and we’ve got these imbeciles and inexperienced derps at the helm when they do. Unless we’re just sold outright, which with this administration is quite possible.

Divided we fall.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: ToySanta on September 21, 2025, 06:48:39 PM
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He’a got a statue too.. they’re bending over backwards to explain how this isn’t an idol:

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I didn’t get at first this was meant to be a positive thing
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Is…is…is that real? Feels AI generated. Also, I doubt Trump would allow a statue to be made of him that doesn’t look as if he had a Rambo-esque physique.

Yeah, it’s real. However the president didn’t commission it, some cryptobros popped it up. Twelve feet tall, yeesh.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: h00man on September 22, 2025, 01:25:15 PM
Jimmy Kimmel is back on ABC after Disney lost $4billion
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on September 22, 2025, 02:10:21 PM
Jimmy Kimmel is back on ABC after Disney lost $4billion

Let's see what the local stations do. I wonder how far they are willing to go.

This is going to be a nightmare:
https://jacobin.com/2025/09/trump-ellison-tiktok-media-consolidation

Our kleptocracy future has already begun. We are giving TikTok to Larry Ellison what a huge financial boon to a Trump supporter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMUMNyJQHMA
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Painted Baby on September 22, 2025, 02:50:20 PM
ABC blinked because they're a publicly traded company and their stock price shit the bed over the weekend. Russia didn't have a centralized stock exchange until 2011 and I wonder if that didn't help Putin to consolidate his power. I love Alex Gibney's work so I need to watch that doc. I feel like this isn't the first time a corporation that, above all, must make the number go up has stepped in and curbed the fanaticism. Smartmatic for example.

NBC was fuckin scary yesterday. All red chyrons for the CK memorial and the network hosts were uncritical of some genuinely threatening rhetoric. Do people know that Comcast is the owner? CBS News is for sure cooked under Ellison and Bari Weiss.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on September 22, 2025, 03:48:35 PM
China is keeping the algorithm.   
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on September 22, 2025, 03:56:33 PM
China is keeping the algorithm.

As good as this is, I still don't trust it. Trump and his cronies who own that board will get their hands on it eventually.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on September 22, 2025, 04:28:18 PM
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China is keeping the algorithm.
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As good as this is, I still don't trust it. Trump and his cronies who own that board will get their hands on it eventually.


I don’t think so - from what I understand algorithms are on the level of the coca a cola recipe for tech companies.   


Also fun note : severe grindr crash in the area of the CK memorial last nights
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on September 22, 2025, 04:43:29 PM
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China is keeping the algorithm.
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As good as this is, I still don't trust it. Trump and his cronies who own that board will get their hands on it eventually.
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I don’t think so - from what I understand algorithms are on the level of the coca a cola recipe for tech companies.   

Also fun note : severe grindr crash in the area of the CK memorial last nights

My favorite fun fact -- whenever there's a big Republican event, Grindr usage soars and crashes the server.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Painted Baby on September 22, 2025, 05:54:23 PM
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China is keeping the algorithm.
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As good as this is, I still don't trust it. Trump and his cronies who own that board will get their hands on it eventually.
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I don’t think so - from what I understand algorithms are on the level of the coca a cola recipe for tech companies.   

Also fun note : severe grindr crash in the area of the CK memorial last nights
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My favorite fun fact -- whenever there's a big Republican event, Grindr usage soars and crashes the server.
They're 3 for 3 at this point. CPAC, RNC and now the AZ Kirk Memorial. Mass hog event indeed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0WFA6zswnY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnBLdmmkw6E
They're longform but still worth a watch if you have the time.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: SmashtheState on September 23, 2025, 06:15:17 AM
Who fucking gives a shit about that kook CK?! This memorial was so trashy and posturing might as well have been a WWF event. Whenever someone dies unexpectedly or murdered you'd think there's a grace period of silent mourning, maybe a select few celebration low-key of course. Not this fucking guy let's go full on 4th of July with this garbage rhetoric, wouldn't be surprised if Roseanne and that Canadian kook came out or kid Rock! Wasn't most of his supporters incel women haters? Hard to imagine they'd support his wife let alone listen to her, gotta get that influencer 💰. What a bunch of smooth brains.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on September 23, 2025, 11:22:05 AM
Well that was obvious. I wonder what Sinclair and Nextstar will run instead.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/09/23/kimmel-abc-nexstar-sinclair-fcc.html
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on September 23, 2025, 04:15:25 PM
Well that was obvious. I wonder what Sinclair and Nextstar will run instead.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/09/23/kimmel-abc-nexstar-sinclair-fcc.html

Celeb family feud I believe
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: noxiousPond on September 23, 2025, 06:53:38 PM
Who fucking gives a shit about that kook CK?! This memorial was so trashy and posturing might as well have been a WWF event. Whenever someone dies unexpectedly or murdered you'd think there's a grace period of silent mourning, maybe a select few celebration low-key of course. Not this fucking guy let's go full on 4th of July with this garbage rhetoric, wouldn't be surprised if Roseanne and that Canadian kook came out or kid Rock! Wasn't most of his supporters incel women haters? Hard to imagine they'd support his wife let alone listen to her, gotta get that influencer 💰. What a bunch of smooth brains.

Every day we’re getting closer and closer to real life idiocracy.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: dunc on September 24, 2025, 01:50:52 AM
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Who fucking gives a shit about that kook CK?! This memorial was so trashy and posturing might as well have been a WWF event. Whenever someone dies unexpectedly or murdered you'd think there's a grace period of silent mourning, maybe a select few celebration low-key of course. Not this fucking guy let's go full on 4th of July with this garbage rhetoric, wouldn't be surprised if Roseanne and that Canadian kook came out or kid Rock! Wasn't most of his supporters incel women haters? Hard to imagine they'd support his wife let alone listen to her, gotta get that influencer 💰. What a bunch of smooth brains.
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Every day we’re getting closer and closer to real life idiocracy.

Devo was right all along. DEVOLUTION is playing out on the tube in front of our eyes.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: SmashtheState on September 24, 2025, 07:34:21 AM
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Who fucking gives a shit about that kook CK?! This memorial was so trashy and posturing might as well have been a WWF event. Whenever someone dies unexpectedly or murdered you'd think there's a grace period of silent mourning, maybe a select few celebration low-key of course. Not this fucking guy let's go full on 4th of July with this garbage rhetoric, wouldn't be surprised if Roseanne and that Canadian kook came out or kid Rock! Wasn't most of his supporters incel women haters? Hard to imagine they'd support his wife let alone listen to her, gotta get that influencer 💰. What a bunch of smooth brains.
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Every day we’re getting closer and closer to real life idiocracy.
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Devo was right all along. DEVOLUTION is playing out on the tube in front of our eyes.
I'd gnar you if I could, but this right here is so poignant.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: brycickle on September 24, 2025, 08:12:38 AM
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Who fucking gives a shit about that kook CK?! This memorial was so trashy and posturing might as well have been a WWF event. Whenever someone dies unexpectedly or murdered you'd think there's a grace period of silent mourning, maybe a select few celebration low-key of course. Not this fucking guy let's go full on 4th of July with this garbage rhetoric, wouldn't be surprised if Roseanne and that Canadian kook came out or kid Rock! Wasn't most of his supporters incel women haters? Hard to imagine they'd support his wife let alone listen to her, gotta get that influencer 💰. What a bunch of smooth brains.
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Every day we’re getting closer and closer to real life idiocracy.
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Devo was right all along. DEVOLUTION is playing out on the tube in front of our eyes.
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I'd gnar you if I could, but this right here is so poignant.

We're through being cool, that's for sure.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on September 24, 2025, 11:09:11 AM
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Who fucking gives a shit about that kook CK?! This memorial was so trashy and posturing might as well have been a WWF event. Whenever someone dies unexpectedly or murdered you'd think there's a grace period of silent mourning, maybe a select few celebration low-key of course. Not this fucking guy let's go full on 4th of July with this garbage rhetoric, wouldn't be surprised if Roseanne and that Canadian kook came out or kid Rock! Wasn't most of his supporters incel women haters? Hard to imagine they'd support his wife let alone listen to her, gotta get that influencer 💰. What a bunch of smooth brains.
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Every day we’re getting closer and closer to real life idiocracy.
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Devo was right all along. DEVOLUTION is playing out on the tube in front of our eyes.
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I'd gnar you if I could, but this right here is so poignant.

Did it for you.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Allen. on September 24, 2025, 01:39:13 PM
I hate this shit.

I work at a corporate coffee chain again, one that is famous for its fall flavors, and apparently MAGA idiots are rolling through ordering Charlie Kirk’s go-to, one of our teas with two honey packets to… ????? Own the libs? Tempt one of the baristas to write something smarmy on the cup and get fired? To pay tribute to their recently departed piece of shit?
I don’t understand these people at all. It’s all so fucking stupid.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: JANUS on September 24, 2025, 05:56:48 PM
I hate this shit.

I work at a corporate coffee chain again, one that is famous for its fall flavors, and apparently MAGA idiots are rolling through ordering Charlie Kirk’s go-to, one of our teas with two honey packets to… ????? Own the libs? Tempt one of the baristas to write something smarmy on the cup and get fired? To pay tribute to their recently departed piece of shit?
I don’t understand these people at all. It’s all so fucking stupid.

Nah man, you totally understand.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on September 24, 2025, 07:25:54 PM
I hate this shit.

I work at a corporate coffee chain again, one that is famous for its fall flavors, and apparently MAGA idiots are rolling through ordering Charlie Kirk’s go-to, one of our teas with two honey packets to… ????? Own the libs? Tempt one of the baristas to write something smarmy on the cup and get fired? To pay tribute to their recently departed piece of shit?
I don’t understand these people at all. It’s all so fucking stupid.

If they're ordering in person, ask for their name, if they say Charlie Kirk (and happen to pay by CC) say that the same doesn't match the card and now you have to see ID. Then use the name on their ID/card. If they then tell you to still use the CK name, say there's a corporate rule that due to laws in some states, we cannot use preferred names/pronouns and must use what's on a government ID.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on September 24, 2025, 07:28:51 PM
^^^^^^
Fucking beautiful. 🫡
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: nh_trip on September 24, 2025, 07:36:41 PM
wish i could shout this from the mountain tops for the people that idolize him but I went to a party when I was 23 in NYC and I was probably a couple years older than everyone else so I guess everyone was like 21 or 22? but jesse waters was running around in the background of the party going from the bathroom to the one of the bedrooms with his production assistant who was a mutual acquaintance who was like 21 at the time. We were all weirded out that this pathetic old guy (old to us at the time) was like lurking around in the background. I can confirm he was also a huge douche when I asked him what his deal was lol.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: S. on September 24, 2025, 10:10:27 PM
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I hate this shit.

I work at a corporate coffee chain again, one that is famous for its fall flavors, and apparently MAGA idiots are rolling through ordering Charlie Kirk’s go-to, one of our teas with two honey packets to… ????? Own the libs? Tempt one of the baristas to write something smarmy on the cup and get fired? To pay tribute to their recently departed piece of shit?
I don’t understand these people at all. It’s all so fucking stupid.
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If they're ordering in person, ask for their name, if they say Charlie Kirk (and happen to pay by CC) say that the same doesn't match the card and now you have to see ID. Then use the name on their ID/card. If they then tell you to still use the CK name, say there's a corporate rule that due to laws in some states, we cannot use preferred names/pronouns and must use what's on a government ID.


Sounds complicated. Just spit into the coffee.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Allen. on September 24, 2025, 10:32:09 PM
I was brainstorming on offering a peppermint shot and claiming I meant to say pump. I’m not trying to get fired. It’s hard finding a gig.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on September 24, 2025, 11:00:01 PM
I was brainstorming on offering a peppermint shot and claiming I meant to say pump. I’m not trying to get fired. It’s hard finding a gig.

You could say “neck” instead of “next”
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: munchbox on September 25, 2025, 07:22:26 AM
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I was brainstorming on offering a peppermint shot and claiming I meant to say pump. I’m not trying to get fired. It’s hard finding a gig.
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You could say “neck” instead of “next”
bravo
these people really got nothing better to do?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mr. Pickles on September 25, 2025, 10:22:49 AM
My coworker is going down the Kirk conspiracy rabbit hole. Apparently he was shot from behind with a 5.56.

The only conspiracy I can get behind is they sacrificed the guy for a power grab.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on September 25, 2025, 11:09:54 AM
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I was brainstorming on offering a peppermint shot and claiming I meant to say pump. I’m not trying to get fired. It’s hard finding a gig.
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You could say “neck” instead of “next”
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bravo
these people really got nothing better to do?

Quite literally no. "Owning the libs" is their identity now. Even if it's for the smallest, dumbest thing possible.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on September 25, 2025, 02:02:09 PM
My coworker is going down the Kirk conspiracy rabbit hole. Apparently he was shot from behind with a 5.56.

The only conspiracy I can get behind is they sacrificed the guy for a power grab.


What about the one with his wife in Romania trafficking orphans
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: augustmoon on September 25, 2025, 02:17:31 PM
My coworker is going down the Kirk conspiracy rabbit hole. Apparently he was shot from behind with a 5.56.

The only conspiracy I can get behind is they sacrificed the guy for a power grab.


At the very least they were waiting for a situation they could weaponize, and this one just fell in their lap

But to be real, a lot of shit with this case doesn’t make sense.  The Trump Butler attempt and this latest ICE shooting don’t make sense either.  When you realize the stakes involved, even the wildest conspiracy theories stays to look more and more plausible. Real deal New World Order shit is going on
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Post by: Rusty Shackleford on September 25, 2025, 06:09:03 PM
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My coworker is going down the Kirk conspiracy rabbit hole. Apparently he was shot from behind with a 5.56.

The only conspiracy I can get behind is they sacrificed the guy for a power grab.
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What about the one with his wife in Romania trafficking orphans

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G1mXbatbAAETx1K.jpg)
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on September 25, 2025, 07:29:33 PM
I was brainstorming on offering a peppermint shot and claiming I meant to say pump. I’m not trying to get fired. It’s hard finding a gig.

If it was me, I’d start calling that order the conservative tears or possibly the empa-tea.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on September 28, 2025, 06:21:55 PM
Predictably Brazil is exporting more soy beans and American farmers aren't getting any pre-orders from China. Lucky, us we get to bail out the people who voted for Trump's policies, because they're only supposed to hurt city folk, not rural folk.

Yay, its official, Trump killed off exports for American farmers and WE get to pay the farmers.
https://www.axios.com/2025/09/28/trump-tariffs-farm-bailout-thune

Weird, who could have seen this coming. It isn't like the exact same thing happened last time he was in office.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/14/donald-trump-coronavirus-farmer-bailouts-359932

We made Brazil strong at the cost of our soy bean industry.
https://www.americasquarterly.org/article/brazil-deepens-bond-china

And, while we are letting thousands and thousands die due to "not waiting to give foreign aid." We are going to give 20 billion to Agentina to support Milie's cruel experiment.
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-admins-20-billion-bail-out-for-argentinas-milei-raises-eyebrows-10780604


Yay. Our cost of living goes up, the economy slows, hiring slows, all so we can let the poorest people die, pay a regressive tax to those who voted in Trump, and we can pay taxes to Argentina's neo-liberal nightmare.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on September 28, 2025, 09:08:35 PM
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Predictably Brazil is exporting more soy beans and American farmers aren't getting any pre-orders from China. Lucky, us we get to bail out the people who voted for Trump's policies, because they're only supposed to hurt city folk, not rural folk.
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Yay, its official, Trump killed off exports for American farmers and WE get to pay the farmers.
https://www.axios.com/2025/09/28/trump-tariffs-farm-bailout-thune

Weird, who could have seen this coming. It isn't like the exact same thing happened last time he was in office.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/14/donald-trump-coronavirus-farmer-bailouts-359932

We made Brazil strong at the cost of our soy bean industry.
https://www.americasquarterly.org/article/brazil-deepens-bond-china

And, while we are letting thousands and thousands die due to "not waiting to give foreign aid." We are going to give 20 billion to Agentina to support Milie's cruel experiment.
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-admins-20-billion-bail-out-for-argentinas-milei-raises-eyebrows-10780604


Yay. Our cost of living goes up, the economy slows, hiring slows, all so we can let the poorest people die, pay a regressive tax to those who voted in Trump, and we can pay taxes to Argentina's neo-liberal nightmare.

The problem is these farmers got screwed in the same fashion back in 2017 by Trump and, again, they blame the “gubbamint” without making the connection that Trump is the “gubbamint.” Which is why they will vote for him again.

I say let them fail and let them lose their farms. They can sell them and work those fields as an employee.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on September 28, 2025, 11:04:41 PM
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Yay, its official, Trump killed off exports for American farmers and WE get to pay the farmers.
https://www.axios.com/2025/09/28/trump-tariffs-farm-bailout-thune

Weird, who could have seen this coming. It isn't like the exact same thing happened last time he was in office.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/14/donald-trump-coronavirus-farmer-bailouts-359932

We made Brazil strong at the cost of our soy bean industry.
https://www.americasquarterly.org/article/brazil-deepens-bond-china

And, while we are letting thousands and thousands die due to "not waiting to give foreign aid." We are going to give 20 billion to Agentina to support Milie's cruel experiment.
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-admins-20-billion-bail-out-for-argentinas-milei-raises-eyebrows-10780604


Yay. Our cost of living goes up, the economy slows, hiring slows, all so we can let the poorest people die, pay a regressive tax to those who voted in Trump, and we can pay taxes to Argentina's neo-liberal nightmare.
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The problem is these farmers got screwed in the same fashion back in 2017 by Trump and, again, they blame the “gubbamint” without making the connection that Trump is the “gubbamint.” Which is why they will vote for him again.

I say let them fail and let them lose their farms. They can sell them and work those fields as an employee.


Doesn’t help that the DNC rarely spend money on places it doesn’t think it can win, so they never get effective messaging from the other side in these areas
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on September 29, 2025, 09:35:23 AM
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Predictably Brazil is exporting more soy beans and American farmers aren't getting any pre-orders from China. Lucky, us we get to bail out the people who voted for Trump's policies, because they're only supposed to hurt city folk, not rural folk.
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Yay, its official, Trump killed off exports for American farmers and WE get to pay the farmers.
https://www.axios.com/2025/09/28/trump-tariffs-farm-bailout-thune

Weird, who could have seen this coming. It isn't like the exact same thing happened last time he was in office.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/14/donald-trump-coronavirus-farmer-bailouts-359932

We made Brazil strong at the cost of our soy bean industry.
https://www.americasquarterly.org/article/brazil-deepens-bond-china

And, while we are letting thousands and thousands die due to "not waiting to give foreign aid." We are going to give 20 billion to Agentina to support Milie's cruel experiment.
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-admins-20-billion-bail-out-for-argentinas-milei-raises-eyebrows-10780604


Yay. Our cost of living goes up, the economy slows, hiring slows, all so we can let the poorest people die, pay a regressive tax to those who voted in Trump, and we can pay taxes to Argentina's neo-liberal nightmare.
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The problem is these farmers got screwed in the same fashion back in 2017 by Trump and, again, they blame the “gubbamint” without making the connection that Trump is the “gubbamint.” Which is why they will vote for him again.

I say let them fail and let them lose their farms. They can sell them and work those fields as an employee.
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Doesn’t help that the DNC rarely spend money on places it doesn’t think it can win, so they never get effective messaging from the other side in these areas

When you're right, you're right. That was one of Hillary's downfalls. She didn't visit rural areas thinking that Trump's talking about violence, misogyny, racism, and grabbing pussy would be his undoing. Nope. It won the hearts of the country folk.

Also, funny (in an irony way) that with a church being shot up and burned, FOX News and GOP are ignoring it completely when it came out that the guilty was a white MAGA veteran. Somehow, once again, shootings aren't tragic anymore.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: dunc on September 29, 2025, 12:49:07 PM
Trump is now intending to put 100% tariffs on films not made in Hollywood.  Might be more fun to live in North Korea these days.
"Make Fast And Furious Great Again ."
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on September 29, 2025, 02:47:01 PM
I'm curious how the nation's military leaders will take to Hegseth's "Warrior Ethos" speech for them tomorrow? Mostly because they vastly outrank the dude in title and experience.

In the end, I have a good feeling this will be a loyal litmus test to see which leaders they keep and which ones they'll replace with people like Hegseth.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Painted Baby on September 29, 2025, 03:09:57 PM
I'm curious how the nation's military leaders will take to Hegseth's "Warrior Ethos" speech for them tomorrow? Mostly because they vastly outrank the dude in title and experience.

In the end, I have a good feeling this will be a loyal litmus test to see which leaders they keep and which ones they'll replace with people like Hegseth.
This may be copium but I watched this guy talk about this other guy this past weekend and felt slightly better about how a possible military coup might play out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGWjOD88Ccs
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Top-Heavy Hookjaw on September 29, 2025, 04:28:26 PM
I saw a sound bite today about a “consumer surveillance program” starting January 2026. Anyone have more info? Something about monitoring Amazon, Uber, AirBnB, etc and reporting to DHS?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: EdLawndale on September 30, 2025, 07:39:14 AM
Not sure if anyone posted this yet but it's purportedly Pete Hegseth hitting himself in the nuts with a skate.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DPNPmv4jz4H/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on September 30, 2025, 08:09:28 AM
Trump really told all the military leaders to use [liberal] US cities as training grounds for the military and there is little to no coverage on this. That comment is literally the basis fascism — using military on its own people. Media really trying to brush this under the rug and are commited to sane-washing whatever that man does.

Also, it was a loyalty litmus test. Especially with Trump literally saying this: I’m going to be meeting with generals and with admirals and with leaders, and if I don’t like somebody, I’m gonna fire them right on the spot.”
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: The real veganshawn on September 30, 2025, 08:37:56 AM
Every day it gets worse
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on September 30, 2025, 08:48:52 AM
Every day it gets worse

I trule miss “boring” politics where we didn’t wake up to new batshit events every morning.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: twistingtheknife666 on September 30, 2025, 10:06:15 AM
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Every day it gets worse
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I trule miss “boring” politics where we didn’t wake up to new batshit events every morning.
I wonder if the MAGA folks woke up every day thinking everything was going to shit the way normal people do now. Because I just can't equate worrying about trans athletes, pride flags, or what "woke" agenda was being pressed forward with the complete destruction of our Republic, the use of American troops against it's own people, and the utter disregard for our Constitution as the same. To think any of this is ok, I truly don't understand how any sane American can look at this ridiculous administration and really believe that they're making the country great again by dismantling every protection against tyranny we have, while lining the pockets of the greediest, wealthiest, bunch of shit bums who've ever existed.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: EdLawndale on September 30, 2025, 02:28:31 PM
Again, if you voted for this in 2024, or abstained from voting: Fuck you for that.

Who cares if the DNC didn't engage with you or you didn't find them engaging? They didn't speak to you? Oh, boo hoo, get the fuck outta here with all that. This is, in large part, on you.

It's called survival instinct. Gotta be smarter than to get tricked by the Conservative scumbags into voting for them, or to not vote for anyone because you didn't have a perfect candidate.

Thankfully, you have a chance to redeem yourselves, by actively voting against facists in every election, large or small, going forward.

This is real life. The Human Garbage is running the show right now. Get with the program.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mongo Lloyd on September 30, 2025, 02:58:45 PM
Again, if you voted for this in 2024, or abstained from voting: Fuck you for that.

Who cares if the DNC didn't engage with you or you didn't find them engaging? They didn't speak to you? Oh, boo hoo, get the fuck outta here with all that. This is, in large part, on you.

It's called survival instinct. Gotta be smarter than to get tricked by the Conservative scumbags into voting for them, or to not vote for anyone because you didn't have a perfect candidate.

Thankfully, you have a chance to redeem yourselves, by actively voting against facists in every election, large or small, going forward.

This is real life. The Human Garbage is running the show right now. Get with the program.

Yup, a lot of us were correct in the Kamala thread. Everything we cautioned would happen has happened. We explained that single issue voting was overlooking a looming disaster in pursuit of immediate singular results. It was very obvious what was at stake, and still we were accused of “over-reacting” and assured “it’ll all be the same regardless of who wins the election”. We were accused of “TDS” when we identified fascism knocking on the door, and we insisted the “concepts of a plan” was P2025 all along.

We were right.

Where I was wrong was insisting that @Freelancevagrant was extreme in stating what may need to happen in order for this country to persist. He was ultimately correct in those regards.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: h00man on September 30, 2025, 04:14:32 PM
Again, if you voted for this in 2024, or abstained from voting: Fuck you for that.

Who cares if the DNC didn't engage with you or you didn't find them engaging? They didn't speak to you? Oh, boo hoo, get the fuck outta here with all that. This is, in large part, on you.

It's called survival instinct. Gotta be smarter than to get tricked by the Conservative scumbags into voting for them, or to not vote for anyone because you didn't have a perfect candidate.

Thankfully, you have a chance to redeem yourselves, by actively voting against facists in every election, large or small, going forward.

This is real life. The Human Garbage is running the show right now. Get with the program.

Every time I bring this up, the cowards that I targeted this at are no where to be seen, but secretly kook me whenever I do.

fucking clowns.

Also, another Goverment shutdown starting soon.

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on September 30, 2025, 04:18:51 PM
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Again, if you voted for this in 2024, or abstained from voting: Fuck you for that.

Who cares if the DNC didn't engage with you or you didn't find them engaging? They didn't speak to you? Oh, boo hoo, get the fuck outta here with all that. This is, in large part, on you.

It's called survival instinct. Gotta be smarter than to get tricked by the Conservative scumbags into voting for them, or to not vote for anyone because you didn't have a perfect candidate.

Thankfully, you have a chance to redeem yourselves, by actively voting against facists in every election, large or small, going forward.

This is real life. The Human Garbage is running the show right now. Get with the program.
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Every time I bring this up, the cowards that I targeted this at are no where to be seen, but secretly kook me whenever I do.

fucking clowns.

Also, another Goverment shutdown starting soon.

And the party who controls all the house, senate, presidency, and supreme court are already blaming Dems for the shut down.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: h00man on September 30, 2025, 04:35:56 PM
don't worry. MAGA doesnt understand politics and will ignore the fact that Republicans control it all. It's easy to lie to such a gullible, uneducated base.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: EdLawndale on September 30, 2025, 06:07:23 PM
Haven't been paying enough attn on here to keep track of who did or did not do what, nor would I care to even direct it at anyone particular here.

Just a general thought that comes over me whenever I see ICE vans in my neighborhood, or hear that Trump could possibly be in a role governing the Gaza strip, or when the military sets up shop in American cities, etc.

Idk about you guys, but having to watch some dude I saw kick a skateboard up into his own testicles warn his enemies to "F.A.F.O." is a hard pill to swallow for me.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on September 30, 2025, 06:41:40 PM
Haven't been paying enough attn on here to keep track of who did or did not do what, nor would I care to even direct it at anyone particular here.

Just a general thought that comes over me whenever I see ICE vans in my neighborhood, or hear that Trump could possibly be in a role governing the Gaza strip, or when the military sets up shop in American cities, etc.

A few things from today:

1. Trump went in front of America's Military Leaders and proclaimed war on US cities, quote, "use these cities and military training grounds.
2. Said Military leaders didn't cheer or applaud him, thus enraging him.
3. Lack of praise made Trump then proclaim, "I will be meeting with all leaders and anyone I don't like, I'm firing immediately."
4. Pete Hegseth then got up and said to these leaders (and in front of Trump) that being fat is basically being unprofessional.
5. He only wants to be around fit, young men.
6. He also got no praise or applause from people who outrank him.
7. Ted Cruz said on camera to stop bullying pedophiles.
8. The government is shutting down and Trump/GOP is blaming Dems even though they run all of congress.
9. The Epstein Files still haven't been released.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: h00man on September 30, 2025, 06:54:48 PM
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Haven't been paying enough attn on here to keep track of who did or did not do what, nor would I care to even direct it at anyone particular here.

Just a general thought that comes over me whenever I see ICE vans in my neighborhood, or hear that Trump could possibly be in a role governing the Gaza strip, or when the military sets up shop in American cities, etc.
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A few things from today:

1. Trump went in front of America's Military Leaders and proclaimed war on US cities, quote, "use these cities and military training grounds.
2. Said Military leaders didn't cheer or applaud him, thus enraging him.
3. Lack of praise made Trump then proclaim, "I will be meeting with all leaders and anyone I don't like, I'm firing immediately."
4. Pete Hegseth then got up and said to these leaders (and in front of Trump) that being fat is basically being unprofessional.
5. He only wants to be around fit, young men.
6. He also got no praise or applause from people who outrank him.
7. Ted Cruz said on camera to stop bullying pedophiles.
8. The government is shutting down and Trump/GOP is blaming Dems even though they run all of congress.
9. The Epstein Files still haven't been released.

MAGA love pedophiles!

They keep deflecting and claiming "oh dems are pedos hehe hoho"
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on September 30, 2025, 07:09:53 PM
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Haven't been paying enough attn on here to keep track of who did or did not do what, nor would I care to even direct it at anyone particular here.

Just a general thought that comes over me whenever I see ICE vans in my neighborhood, or hear that Trump could possibly be in a role governing the Gaza strip, or when the military sets up shop in American cities, etc.
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A few things from today:

1. Trump went in front of America's Military Leaders and proclaimed war on US cities, quote, "use these cities and military training grounds.
2. Said Military leaders didn't cheer or applaud him, thus enraging him.
3. Lack of praise made Trump then proclaim, "I will be meeting with all leaders and anyone I don't like, I'm firing immediately."
4. Pete Hegseth then got up and said to these leaders (and in front of Trump) that being fat is basically being unprofessional.
5. He only wants to be around fit, young men.
6. He also got no praise or applause from people who outrank him.
7. Ted Cruz said on camera to stop bullying pedophiles.
8. The government is shutting down and Trump/GOP is blaming Dems even though they run all of congress.
9. The Epstein Files still haven't been released.
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MAGA love pedophiles!

They keep deflecting and claiming "oh dems are pedos hehe hoho"

It's why the GOP want the shut down. They're delaying the swearing-in of the new rep from AZ because she'd be the deciding vote to release the Epstein files.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: FrAnKenFrEd on September 30, 2025, 07:42:00 PM
Woke up to helicopters flying over my house in Portland the other night, searching for immigrants.

https://www.koin.com/news/portland/are-military-helicopters-flying-what-we-know-09302025/ (https://www.koin.com/news/portland/are-military-helicopters-flying-what-we-know-09302025/)

Boots on the ground later in the week. My kid works right by the ICE facility in South waterfront district. All the Keyboard MAGAs cheering this authoritarian posturing on, is insane to me.

I get a few messages a week from friends and family back home in Wales asking me when I'm bailing the US...
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mongo Lloyd on September 30, 2025, 08:03:09 PM
Woke up to helicopters flying over my house in Portland the other night, searching for immigrants.

https://www.koin.com/news/portland/are-military-helicopters-flying-what-we-know-09302025/ (https://www.koin.com/news/portland/are-military-helicopters-flying-what-we-know-09302025/)

Boots on the ground later in the week. My kid works right by the ICE facility in South waterfront district. All the Keyboard MAGAs cheering this authoritarian posturing on, is insane to me.

I get a few messages a week from friends and family back home in Wales asking me when I'm bailing the US...

You’re from Wales and you choose to live in the states!? What’s wrong with you??

Wales is such a beautiful peaceful country. Where I would likely choose to live if I ever had the opportunity.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: FrAnKenFrEd on September 30, 2025, 08:57:44 PM
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Woke up to helicopters flying over my house in Portland the other night, searching for immigrants.

https://www.koin.com/news/portland/are-military-helicopters-flying-what-we-know-09302025/ (https://www.koin.com/news/portland/are-military-helicopters-flying-what-we-know-09302025/)

Boots on the ground later in the week. My kid works right by the ICE facility in South waterfront district. All the Keyboard MAGAs cheering this authoritarian posturing on, is insane to me.

I get a few messages a week from friends and family back home in Wales asking me when I'm bailing the US...
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You’re from Wales and you choose to live in the states!? What’s wrong with you??

Wales is such a beautiful peaceful country. Where I would likely choose to live if I ever had the opportunity.

Haha. You been? (If not, I hope you get to go one day) Wales (England's first colony) is indeed a beautiful and stunning place but not without its own problems.... And Wales currently has a right-wing populist neighbor breathing down its neck, with Farage and his supporters. Wales is traditionally a very left-leaning nation. After all Aneurin Bevan, a welsh man. spearheaded the NHS but much to my disbelief right-wing populism is starting to get some bites here and there....

Oregon is also a beautiful and peaceful place, despite what Fox news tells you...

As the saying goes, the grass is always greener... and Both Wales and Oregon have very green grass. In Welsh we call this longing for a beloved place,  "Hiraeth," which to me is way more powerful than nationalism.... damn now I'm digressing and getting homesick...

Yma O Hyd.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on September 30, 2025, 10:46:00 PM
Whoever is going to step up and lead the Democrats, now is a good fucking time to do it. 

They need to aggressively message during the shut down. They need lean into any negatives that Trump is polling on and lean into immigration reform. This government shut down is going to suck, the pain needs to result in some sort of gain.

I think they should have Mayor Pete play good cop and they need someone strong to push the envelope a bit. As we've sunk into reality television politics, I still firmly believe Mark Cuban could easily make Trump and Vance and others look like fools all day long. And, not in a way that just makes people feel good about being educated, but in a way that makes Trump look like a bad businessman. It hammers Trump's supposed strength and exposes it to be a huge weakness.

On top the fact Cuban has an authentic masculinity that offers the cool ladies' man who--unlike Trump--doesn't rely on sexual assault and walking into teenage girls dressing rooms. Cuban is everything Trump wishes he was. I feel he could easily resonate with teenage and 20-something men as well as the broader democratic coalition.


https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/30/upshot/poll-analysis-trump-times-siena.html
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: S. on September 30, 2025, 11:24:38 PM
Whoever is going to step up and lead the Democrats, now is a good fucking time to do it. 

They need to aggressively message during the shut down. They need lean into any negatives that Trump is polling on and lean into immigration reform. This government shut down is going to suck, the pain needs to result in some sort of gain.

I think they should have Mayor Pete play good cop and they need someone strong to push the envelope a bit. As we've sunk into reality television politics, I still firmly believe Mark Cuban could easily make Trump and Vance and others look like fools all day long. And, not in a way that just makes people feel good about being educated, but in a way that makes Trump look like a bad businessman. It hammers Trump's supposed strength and exposes it to be a huge weakness.

On top the fact Cuban has an authentic masculinity that offers the cool ladies' man who--unlike Trump--doesn't rely on sexual assault and walking into teenage girls dressing rooms. Cuban is everything Trump wishes he was. I feel he could easily resonate with teenage and 20-something men as well as the broader democratic coalition.


https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/30/upshot/poll-analysis-trump-times-siena.html


OK, I guess, if he defeats Trump. But another Billionaire Businessman?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Painted Baby on October 01, 2025, 12:05:11 AM
I saw a sound bite today about a “consumer surveillance program” starting January 2026. Anyone have more info? Something about monitoring Amazon, Uber, AirBnB, etc and reporting to DHS?
It took a few days for this to show up in my feed, but I think this is what you're talking about:
https://fortune.com/2025/09/28/larry-ellison-ai-surveillance-oracle-tiktok-deal-social-media/

Larry Ellison, founder of Oracle and father of Paramount owner David Ellison, is apparently getting a controlling stake in TikTok due to the forced sale of the platform. The surveillance angle has come back up because Ellison advocated for an AI surveillance state during an Oracle earnings call last year. TikTok is a likely testing ground as much of the anti-Zionist movement lives there (at least that's what they think.) This is all pretty much straight out of the Dark Enlightenment playbook, which is an blackpill accelerationist ideology that aims to cause society's collapse which would allow the tech oligarchs to form new corporate governments. The recent Alien Earth show reflected this kind of society.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Enlightenment
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: fuck_that_guy on October 01, 2025, 02:11:43 AM
ok fuck that ellison guy
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mongo Lloyd on October 01, 2025, 04:30:29 PM
@FrAnKenFrEd

I have indeed been to Wales! I used to be married to an English girl and spent 9 months between England, Wales and southern France. Wales is my favorite place I’ve ever been!

My ex mother in law owns a farm in south Wales with a frontal view of the Brecon Beacons, Literal paradise!

I know that I will likely never make it back, but the beauty will always stay with me.

Sorry to derail folks! Carry on!
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on October 01, 2025, 04:39:27 PM
@FrAnKenFrEd

I have indeed been to Wales! I used to be married to an English girl and spent 9 months between England, Wales and southern France. Wales is my favorite place I’ve ever been!

My ex mother in law owns a farm in south Wales with a frontal view of the Brecon Beacons, Literal paradise!

I know that I will likely never make it back, but the beauty will always stay with me.

Sorry to derail folks! Carry on!


Ah so the Lloyd is grounded in reality.   Real life Gavin an Stacy here
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mongo Lloyd on October 01, 2025, 04:52:33 PM
Ha! I’m only 1/4 Mong!

I think I’m probably a lot different than I’m viewed here, and that’s really my fault.

Gavin and Stacy! Ha! Well played! I think we were watching the series around the time we got married. Not sure what happened to the dvd set, or that the series aged very well. I feel like I’d have been happier had I married a Welsh girl instead of an English girl. The accent is much cuter and happier.

No really the truth is that I’m not suitable for relationships or being close to anyone.. regardless of nationality. South Wales would be a perfect location to be a hermit.

This has taken a confessional turn! Can we discuss Trump’s apparent dementia adled AI obsession?  ;D
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: FrAnKenFrEd on October 01, 2025, 06:22:44 PM
Ha! I’m only 1/4 Mong!

I think I’m probably a lot different than I’m viewed here, and that’s really my fault.

Gavin and Stacy! Ha! Well played! I think we were watching the series around the time we got married. Not sure what happened to the dvd set, or that the series aged very well. I feel like I’d have been happier had I married a Welsh girl instead of an English girl. The accent is much cuter and happier.

No really the truth is that I’m not suitable for relationships or being close to anyone.. regardless of nationality. South Wales would be a perfect location to be a hermit.

This has taken a confessional turn! Can we discuss Trump’s apparent dementia adled AI obsession?  ;D

We should start at Croeso I Cymru! thread.... And now back to black helicopters and half-arsed pull ups...
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: ToySanta on October 01, 2025, 06:40:50 PM
@TheLurper

I don’t know how you went from the dems need a leader to macho Mark Cuban, but I don’t want a billionaire anywhere near the oval office than they already are. Another rich and famous reality tv starring businessman is not America’s answer. Quit normalizing rich, famous people buying political seats.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Willie on October 01, 2025, 08:18:29 PM
I would take a win from anywhere at this point.

I keep seeing people say it should be AOC or someone similar and I’m like “did you pay any attention to exit polls and interviews of people who left the party?”
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on October 01, 2025, 08:28:07 PM
@TheLurper

I don’t know how you went from the dems need a leader to macho Mark Cuban, but I don’t want a billionaire anywhere near the oval office than they already are. Another rich and famous reality tv starring businessman is not America’s answer. Quit normalizing rich, famous people buying political seats.

The only person I’d make an exception for would be Jon Stewart, but I’d prefer him in congress like Al Franken.

Also, my condolences to any Federal Employee Pals. Hopefully this shutdown ends well and ya’ll can get paid.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on October 02, 2025, 12:38:34 AM
At present, who I want to be in charge is second to just stopping the destruction. It is hard to watch what is happening. We have a president who is telling the military about preparing for a war from within and is sending troops to cities he doesn't like, and cutting funding for blue states. We have an administration full of idiots pushing for some of the worst policy decisions that are going to haunt us forever. Not to mention millions are likely to die because of Trump's foreign aid cuts and medical cuts within America.

Cuban is far from my dream, as I'd much prefer an AOC or Bernie or Warren, but if a Mark Cuban being in charge would save us from this administration and its harm, well it is a compromise I'm willing to accept. At present, I just want anyone who isn't a monster to obtain power and stop what is happening. I feel Cuban would be a good bet to actually win an election.
https://www.npr.org/sections/goats-and-soda/2025/07/01/nx-s1-5452513/trump-usaid-foreign-aid-deaths

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: vicious cycle on October 02, 2025, 01:53:30 AM
Hey Pals, I just wanted to say, stay safe. I hope the best for all of you Americans.. Scary times man..
Best greetings from Germany.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on October 02, 2025, 08:39:38 AM
Trump cutting funding to blue states (like NYs transit budget) that didn’t vote for him. No other president in history has acted like this and for some reason, GOP keeps trying to justify and normalize it. Pure insanity.

Then news this morning is he’s meeting with P25 founder to figure out which “Democratic Agencies” to cut and defund.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on October 02, 2025, 09:44:41 AM
Realizing how important it is that his old, unhealthy ass makes it to the next election.   Things will get dicey a lot faster if VP Vance succeeds before then.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on October 02, 2025, 09:52:07 AM
Realizing how important it is that his old, unhealthy ass makes it to the next election.   Things will get dicey a lot faster if VP Vance succeeds before then.

I thought this too, but do people respect/fear Vance as much as they do Trump? I get couches fear him for they think he'll fuck em, but I don't think he has the leverage Trump has.

Anyways, I don't know how the WH Press Sec can get in front of the camera everyday, clutch her cross, proclaim herself a good Catholic, then blatantly lie. Here she is saying how it's okay for Trump to create quid-pro-quos in order to get his demands even though the GOP is 100% responsible for this shutdown (and he responsible for 30% off all shutdowns in US history).

https://newrepublic.com/post/201266/karoline-leavitt-ok-target-americans-democrats-government-shutdown
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mongo Lloyd on October 02, 2025, 10:25:04 AM
Realizing how important it is that his old, unhealthy ass makes it to the next election.   Things will get dicey a lot faster if VP Vance succeeds before then.

Sortaaaaa…. the crazy cultists are only really crazy cultists for Trump. The techno-fascist faction has little to no charisma or appeal. On paper they’re more dangerous, but their policies and intentions are hugely unpopular across the board. No one wants to roll over for some billionaire nerd punch-bowl turd.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mr. Pickles on October 02, 2025, 10:50:57 AM
If we’re being ”invaded from within” and the military is patrolling our cities, I doubt we’re having another presidential election.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on October 02, 2025, 11:01:32 AM
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Realizing how important it is that his old, unhealthy ass makes it to the next election.   Things will get dicey a lot faster if VP Vance succeeds before then.
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I thought this too, but do people respect/fear Vance as much as they do Trump? I get couches fear him for they think he'll fuck em, but I don't think he has the leverage Trump has.

Anyways, I don't know how the WH Press Sec can get in front of the camera everyday, clutch her cross, proclaim herself a good Catholic, then blatantly lie. Here she is saying how it's okay for Trump to create quid-pro-quos in order to get his demands even though the GOP is 100% responsible for this shutdown (and he responsible for 30% off all shutdowns in US history).

https://newrepublic.com/post/201266/karoline-leavitt-ok-target-americans-democrats-government-shutdown


I’m not worried about a trump third term eve though he’s acting and behaving like someone’s who’s sticking around for a while.   He’s still an old unhealthy man.   

Vance worried me because of the Thiels and Ellison that placed him where he is.   We saw what havoc Elon created along with his insinuation that he hacked the vote in PA.   Vance has no personal values, he’s a chess piece to be moved by shadowy figures.   

Vance’s complete lack of charisma is why I worry about him getting to be president without needing to be voted in
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Allen. on October 02, 2025, 01:37:03 PM
What’s y’all’s takes on the theory that the mf had a stroke
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on October 02, 2025, 01:59:17 PM
What’s y’all’s takes on the theory that the mf had a stroke

GOP knows damn well they can't get away with this much without Trump, so if he did have a stroke, I truly believe they'd hide the fact. Hell, if he died, the GOP would string him up and bust a Weekend at Bernies in order to make sure he stays the face of their policies.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Burt Ward on October 02, 2025, 06:21:20 PM
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Realizing how important it is that his old, unhealthy ass makes it to the next election.   Things will get dicey a lot faster if VP Vance succeeds before then.
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Sortaaaaa…. the crazy cultists are only really crazy cultists for Trump. The techno-fascist faction has little to no charisma or appeal. On paper they’re more dangerous, but their policies and intentions are hugely unpopular across the board. No one wants to roll over for some billionaire nerd punch-bowl turd.

I think you're right. I thought Vance would be way more fucked for you guys, but shit, who's gonna simp for J.D? Anyway, what could he possibly do that's worse than what Trump is getting up to?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on October 02, 2025, 07:12:17 PM
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Realizing how important it is that his old, unhealthy ass makes it to the next election.   Things will get dicey a lot faster if VP Vance succeeds before then.
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Sortaaaaa…. the crazy cultists are only really crazy cultists for Trump. The techno-fascist faction has little to no charisma or appeal. On paper they’re more dangerous, but their policies and intentions are hugely unpopular across the board. No one wants to roll over for some billionaire nerd punch-bowl turd.
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I think you're right. I thought Vance would be way more fucked for you guys, but shit, who's gonna simp for J.D? Anyway, what could he possibly do that's worse than what Trump is getting up to?

Doesn’t matter who’s going to simp for him if he’s already in office.  And do you think Silicon Valley can’t manufacture artificial support?   Do you think Peter Thiel’s end goal for Vance was to be VP?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mongo Lloyd on October 02, 2025, 07:27:16 PM
The problem is with Thiel types and his rich ilk is that they literally offer no concessions to anyone. What is the appeal? It’s very apparent that the ultra wealthy have forgotten that it is in their best interest to atleast leave some breadcrumbs for the unwashed masses. These are people that just simply only know how to take. They don’t know how to play the game outside of money. Trump is in a way a fluke, a rarity, an anomaly that has a dedicated group following him to the depths of hell. I don’t think, or imagine Thiel, Musk, Zuckerberg ever finding another unicorn like that, no matter how much money they throw at the situation.

The point is that if we all lose everything, it does not bode well for the few that took that from the masses or have hoarded absolutely everything. The truth is, people, these extremely wealthy people need PEOPLE to prop them up and make them who they are. The hungry masses will not do that, they will eat them alive. That’s why their whole ideology is sci-fi fantasy bullshit. No one is rolling over for them no matter how much surveillance or brute force they’d thrust on us.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on October 02, 2025, 07:43:16 PM
Sometimes things don’t work out the way fat bloated old men who have aspirations of dictatorship planned.

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Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: FrAnKenFrEd on October 02, 2025, 08:33:55 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLEmyUJNsDQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLEmyUJNsDQ)
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: turdtastic on October 02, 2025, 11:44:57 PM
their whole ideology is sci-fi fantasy bullshit.
Yo @Mongo Lloyd leave Jerry outta this! He ain’t got nuthin to do with those dudes!!
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Marion Stoked on October 03, 2025, 12:59:15 AM
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Realizing how important it is that his old, unhealthy ass makes it to the next election.   Things will get dicey a lot faster if VP Vance succeeds before then.
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Sortaaaaa…. the crazy cultists are only really crazy cultists for Trump. The techno-fascist faction has little to no charisma or appeal. On paper they’re more dangerous, but their policies and intentions are hugely unpopular across the board. No one wants to roll over for some billionaire nerd punch-bowl turd.
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I think you're right. I thought Vance would be way more fucked for you guys, but shit, who's gonna simp for J.D? Anyway, what could he possibly do that's worse than what Trump is getting up to?
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Doesn’t matter who’s going to simp for him if he’s already in office.  And do you think Silicon Valley can’t manufacture artificial support?   Do you think Peter Thiel’s end goal for Vance was to be VP?


Agreed. I think people believe that when the orange pedophile passes on that will be the end of it. The irony is, the fact that vance has the charisma and brains of a fucking horseshoe is way more dangerous and appealing for anyone looking to get close to the seat of US power. Lizard-in-human-skin suit thiel has been trying to play god for a long time, and him and his fuck buddy alex karp over at palintir are psychopaths. Could you imagine what they would attempt if vance became the president?

Even if that wasn't the case, say trump is out of the picture and vance takes his place, what then?

"Sorry Americans, christian fascism isn't working and is completely fucked up. We'll return things back to normal and face full accountability for our crimes. Deportations, over. Murder of civilians by ice, over. Those maga friends and family you cut out of your life? Let em back in! He's dead and we're all good! We return the keys to your democracy, rfk has approved vaccine research and stephen miller is going back to being too weak to strangle hookers."

 

Larry Ellison, founder of Oracle and father of Paramount owner David Ellison, is apparently getting a controlling stake in TikTok due to the forced sale of the platform. The surveillance angle has come back up because Ellison advocated for an AI surveillance state during an Oracle earnings call last year. TikTok is a likely testing ground as much of the anti-Zionist movement lives there (at least that's what they think.) This is all pretty much straight out of the Dark Enlightenment playbook, which is an blackpill accelerationist ideology that aims to cause society's collapse which would allow the tech oligarchs to form new corporate governments. The recent Alien Earth show reflected this kind of society.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Enlightenment



^ This right here is what people don't pay enough attention to. That piece of sentient feces yarvin is very fucking dangerous in a way that cannot be understated, and has the ear and close associations of both vance, and thiel (they have admitted this). His ideas have found stock with the tech crowd, prominent political figures, conservatives, racists, far right activists, and the like. That soundbite on fox news about 'just kill the homeless'? yea, yarvin has been preaching that shit for years, more specifically using the homeless as diesel fuel. But it's just a joke right? The card says 'moops'.

(Fun Fact: He also recently spent time with renaud camus for some shitty doc. Look it up. Yes, renaud camus,  brevik's favorite author, anal polyp in human form, and originator of the 'great replacement' conspiracy theory. What's that you say? charlie k also believed in that shit? color me shocked!) This is who has the ear of the current us vice president (and vance's benefactor) by jd's  own admission. This is how close an actual calculated and dangerous idealogue is to the white house. Not a sloppy drug-addeled narcissist like elon, peterson, trump, or shapiro, but someone who has spent years trying to figure out how to tear shit down in the US and has the motivation, support and connections to do so.

This is reading like I'm wearing a tin foil hat, sure. But there are people in the background and around trump like ellison, thiel, elon, and yarvin, that actually have a vested interest in going beyond and fucking up the US on a grand scale for the sake of power, money, an ethnostate, or whatever other bonkers shit they have in mind.

Seems that things are a little too far gone to be repaired in a way that puts an effective and reversible halt to the damage done. It's a very optimistic take to think all of that just washes away when that diaper wearing asshole is dead.


But hey, I could be wrong. Have been drinking a little more lately.

Edit: Welsh women have the hottest accents.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on October 03, 2025, 02:37:48 AM
On top of all this, what scares me is that Vance is horrible and unlikable, but he can put on a show at times.

I expected Walz to wipe the floor with him in the VP debate. Walz prepared for the wrong debate. Vance hid his darker side during the debate and pretended to be human for a couple hours. Completely took Walz off his footing and didn't allow Walz's good guy persona to shine through.

Vance's 4chan level of "it was just a joke" makes it easy for him to switch into whatever false persona he wants to share. He's a creep but one that shape shifts for his own benefit. This benefits him cause Cruz and Ron DeSantis can't be anything but rude at all times.


Also, I have zero faith in the Democrats ability to get a message out right now. They shut down the gov and got distracted with a meme troll of Jefferies in a Sombrero and took the bait of reacting to it. And, I worry they are leaning into healthcare just cause it polls well as a strength for Democrats and it is what won the previous mid-term for them. It isn't 2018, push something new. React to the moment not the past.

How about we make it about cost of living due to tariffs? A little bit of hard sell cause we cut ourselves with that one by telling everyone the economy was great during the election, not realizing the economy and the ability for people to get ahead are two different things. How about we focus in on farmers needing bailouts with our tax money cause we aren't exporting. We introduced tariffs "to make America Great" and we are selling less shit. Hammer that we want to support people in need, but we don't want to pay bills that were being paid by other countries. Bring on a farmer who will say, "We don't want hand outs, we want to go back to working hard for good pay" or some other stupid platitude.

I'd say add in making it about weaponizing the DOJ and FBI for personal vendettas, but I don't think most Americans don't give a shit.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: JANUS on October 03, 2025, 06:09:28 AM
Lizard-in-human-skin suit thiel

Fun fact: Peter Thiel is an anagram of ‘the reptile.’
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mongo Lloyd on October 03, 2025, 09:59:26 AM
I get what you guys are saying, but look how much trouble ICE is having recruiting people, and that’s even offering ridiculous incentives. At the very most the ultra wealthy could hire private military, but then they’d have to contend with actual military and guerrilla insurgents. Even then, what are concessions even worth in a broken society and economy? Money only works if society maintains a baseline status quo, which these fools seem to want to entirely dismantle.

The basic fact is also this. Less people have a stomach for war and violence than society likes to imagine. All those rabid frothy mouth hillbilly ignorants talk a big game, but would they pull the trigger? Not all of them! Some of them sure, but they aren’t actionable types. Some still have a conscience, and seeing innocents injured, maimed or killed will not sit well with them. Humans are still humans at the end of the day.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on October 03, 2025, 10:20:10 AM
I think it’s a very valid point.   I guess I just worry at the attempt at it and the coercion that comes with owning all our industries and utilities.   

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Boomerforums on October 03, 2025, 11:22:42 AM
Crazy how you dudes are just gonna write long ass paragraphs about this dude for 4 years

It's like you feed off this shit

Feed off his name

Disgusting
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mongo Lloyd on October 03, 2025, 11:23:26 AM
You’re not wrong to worry about it. They’re gonna use every trick in the book to stay or keep their power. They are incredibly powerful, but we’re the ones that empower them. These people are so full of themselves they forget who makes their coffee, fixes their meals, dry cleans their clothes, and wipes their asses. We make their world turn, and they are so incompetent they are incapable of doing any of this on their own. Infact, it’s comical they refer to certain individuals as “useless eaters”, because that’s the very thing they themselves embody.

The way the world currently functions needs to be tore down wholesale. The economic structure needs to be shattered to disempower these individuals.

A small start is getting the Epstein files out there. These people are on it, and everyone needs to know what they did. It all starts with a spark.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mongo Lloyd on October 03, 2025, 11:24:51 AM
Crazy how you dudes are just gonna write long ass paragraphs about this dude for 4 years

It's like you feed off this shit

Feed off his name

Disgusting

Crazy how defective your brain is. That you can’t see your own rights diminishing before your own eyes, because you love huffing the fecal fumes of a pedophile who doesn’t give a shit about you.

Fuck off empty brain.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Alan on October 03, 2025, 11:27:28 AM
The dude is just trolling. Best to ignore him.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Boomerforums on October 03, 2025, 11:31:12 AM
What rights have I lost dipshit

Any you wanna take away?

Guns? Oh shit

stfu u don't know how I vote bitch boy

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: FrAnKenFrEd on October 03, 2025, 11:31:25 AM
Crazy how you dudes are just gonna write long ass paragraphs about this dude for 4 years

It's like you feed off this shit

Feed off his name

Disgusting

We'd prefer not to.

Crazy how many MAGAs are happy to watch their country slip into authoritarianism without question. Keep walking in line.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Boomerforums on October 03, 2025, 11:35:09 AM
I'm a maga troll now

Ok  ::)

These new slurs are so lame and don't hit
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on October 03, 2025, 11:59:50 AM
I'm a maga troll now

Ok  ::)

These new slurs are so lame and don't hit

We'll call you by the politically correct name: Trump Simp
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Boomerforums on October 03, 2025, 12:06:45 PM
Simple projection...

I'll leave now while pages upon pages of TRUMPtm paragraphs happen naturally
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mongo Lloyd on October 03, 2025, 01:03:13 PM
Simple projection...

I'll leave now while pages upon pages of TRUMPtm paragraphs happen naturally

Yes, they happen naturally because most of us have an attention span beyond a peanut. It sounds like your issue is with reading, and anything extending beyond your short comprehensive clip is inconceivable to you.

What are you even doing on forums if a paragraph is something that seems lofty or laborious in your world? Isn’t TikTok or IG enough for you?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: FrAnKenFrEd on October 03, 2025, 02:28:40 PM
I'm a maga troll now

Ok  ::)

These new slurs are so lame and don't hit

No one called you that. Sensitive.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Marion Stoked on October 03, 2025, 02:37:31 PM
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Lizard-in-human-skin suit thiel
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Fun fact: Peter Thiel is an anagram of ‘the reptile.’

(https://media.tenor.com/CMDK2cwc2ZUAAAAM/i-think-you-should-leave-itysl.gif)
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: alien porkchop on October 03, 2025, 02:41:47 PM
some seasonal shedding of its skin

https://gwern.net/doc/politics/2007-thiel.pdf
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on October 03, 2025, 02:44:10 PM
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Lizard-in-human-skin suit thiel
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Fun fact: Peter Thiel is an anagram of ‘the reptile.’
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(https://media.tenor.com/CMDK2cwc2ZUAAAAM/i-think-you-should-leave-itysl.gif)


And that he’s giving a lecture on the antichrist because he’s trying to overpower google search Peter Thiel + Antichrist


If anyone’s curious: the guy that was supposed to represent Peter Thiel was the guy who buys them in the first season (the one who hates college) but the actor died in real life.   They tapped into some other Thiel-isms through other characters like the blood boy in later seasons
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: JANUS on October 03, 2025, 06:43:11 PM
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Lizard-in-human-skin suit thiel
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Fun fact: Peter Thiel is an anagram of ‘the reptile.’
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And that he’s giving a lecture on the antichrist because he’s trying to overpower google search Peter Thiel + Antichrist


If anyone’s curious: the guy that was supposed to represent Peter Thiel was the guy who buys them in the first season (the one who hates college) but the actor died in real life.   They tapped into some other Thiel-isms through other characters like the blood boy in later seasons

Err, we talking Silicon Valley?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on October 03, 2025, 06:48:22 PM
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Fun fact: Peter Thiel is an anagram of ‘the reptile.’
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And that he’s giving a lecture on the antichrist because he’s trying to overpower google search Peter Thiel + Antichrist


If anyone’s curious: the guy that was supposed to represent Peter Thiel was the guy who buys them in the first season (the one who hates college) but the actor died in real life.   They tapped into some other Thiel-isms through other characters like the blood boy in later seasons
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Err, we talking Silicon Valley?


Yessss key piece of info to omit there.   Thanks for catching that
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Marion Stoked on October 04, 2025, 03:06:02 AM


Never seen it. But I actually have it on good authority that one of the cast members was on some johan sticky levels of #meetoo nightlife debauchery at a place called 'tenets of trees' in LA. I'm probably very late to this.

To Boomerforums:

Sorry for the paragraphs, but your moms aint fucking like she used to. What else am I to do with my anger?


MURICA.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on October 04, 2025, 12:42:41 PM


Never seen it. But I actually have it on good authority that one of the cast members was on some johan sticky levels of #meetoo nightlife debauchery at a place called 'tenets of trees' in LA. I'm probably very late to this.

To Boomerforums:

Sorry for the paragraphs, but your moms aint fucking like she used to. What else am I to do with my anger?


MURICA.

Yeah Tennant of the Trees was a notorious “cover your drink” bar.   It was Probably TJ Miller as he’s been cancelled for being an asshole, creep and many other crimes

Thomas Middleditch was into th sex club scenes and forced his wife to join him which is amusing only because he made a joke in the series about that being specifically the behavior of an asshole years before it happened

Its a great show, but I fear it might look quaint these days as this was in a kinder softer day
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on October 06, 2025, 12:08:40 PM
Being a Navy brat who has much love and respect for the fleet, I saw Trump’s speech for the Navy’s 250th and while expected, it was nothing short of pathetic.

As well as being a blatant Hatch Act violation (military should be non-partisan and free of politics). He made clear it was Trump rally and made the celebration about him. He bashed his opponents and spoke very little to none about the Navy’s history and accomplishments.

It’s really sad to see what the role of Commander-in-Chief has become. When Extortion 17 happened, Obama was there for the transfer of the fallen and stood at salute for 45 minutes. Even soldiers who politically hated him respected him for doing that. Trump? He blew off the transfer of those killed in training in Lithuania to go golfing. Like fuck.

And don’t get me started on him talking about how he warned Hegseth about Osama Bin Laden ONE YEAR before 9/11.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on October 06, 2025, 03:31:57 PM
None of the lies or facts matter. What matters is the image. Trump is the first television president in the sense that is where he gets all his information and he only cares about how he looks on TV.

It is all about the spectacle. And, those around him know he is an idiot. It is hard to tell where his evilness ends and his idiocy begins because so many around him know they can play him for their own ideological or material gain.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: prettyeasytoday on October 06, 2025, 05:13:46 PM
Cuban is far from my dream, as I'd much prefer an AOC or Bernie or Warren, but if a Mark Cuban being in charge would save us from this administration and its harm, well it is a compromise I'm willing to accept. At present, I just want anyone who isn't a monster to obtain power and stop what is happening. I feel Cuban would be a good bet to actually win an election.
https://www.npr.org/sections/goats-and-soda/2025/07/01/nx-s1-5452513/trump-usaid-foreign-aid-deaths

Do you think progressives would support moderate candidates if it meant Democrats could win meaningful national elections?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on October 06, 2025, 05:37:07 PM
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Cruz was trying to lay the groundwork apparently for this happening.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on October 06, 2025, 09:49:58 PM
You’re not wrong to worry about it. They’re gonna use every trick in the book to stay or keep their power. They are incredibly powerful, but we’re the ones that empower them. These people are so full of themselves they forget who makes their coffee, fixes their meals, dry cleans their clothes, and wipes their asses. We make their world turn, and they are so incompetent they are incapable of doing any of this on their own. Infact, it’s comical they refer to certain individuals as “useless eaters”, because that’s the very thing they themselves embody.

The way the world currently functions needs to be tore down wholesale. The economic structure needs to be shattered to disempower these individuals.

A small start is getting the Epstein files out there. These people are on it, and everyone needs to know what they did. It all starts with a spark.


I guess thinking about the tech guys and just America is pretty small potatoes in their ultimate plan.    Alien: Earth is literally about a future world where earth is divided up between Five tech companies and that’s sadly a pretty prescient look at where we’re headed.   The goal of these tech companies (remember when they tried to sneak in language about not regulating AI for a decade into the BBB) is own the world economy by owning all work by eliminating the “human tax” that corporations endure now
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on October 07, 2025, 01:27:39 AM
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Cruz was trying to lay the groundwork apparently for this happening.

I wonder if his supporters will buy whatever shit she says to get out of prison. I wonder if this is the one thing that is just too far for them to swallow. Also, I wonder what kind of payments are being offered to the women to keep quiet. And, what kind of "catch and kill" shit is going on in terms of silencing those who are trying to talk to the media.

Like, they are upset about Epstein... to tell them it wasn't a big deal and nothing happened, that is much harder than telling them about how the government works or which tax is good or bad.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/23/media/national-enquirer-catch-and-kill-trump-trial
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-stormy-daniels-indictment-investigation-timeline-manhattan-district-attorney/
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on October 07, 2025, 03:17:12 AM
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Cruz was trying to lay the groundwork apparently for this happening.
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I wonder if his supporters will buy whatever shit she says to get out of prison. I wonder if this is the one thing that is just too far for them to swallow. Also, I wonder what kind of payments are being offered to the women to keep quiet. And, what kind of "catch and kill" shit is going on in terms of silencing those who are trying to talk to the media.

Like, they are upset about Epstein... to tell them it wasn't a big deal and nothing happened, that is much harder than telling them about how the government works or which tax is good or bad.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/23/media/national-enquirer-catch-and-kill-trump-trial
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-stormy-daniels-indictment-investigation-timeline-manhattan-district-attorney/

Let’s be real — Trump and FOX News will lay down the story that those kids were forcing themselves and their woke leftist liberal ideals on Ghislaine and his followers will go with that story. Then he’ll put her in charge of Child Protection Services.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: SmashtheState on October 07, 2025, 06:53:32 AM
What sickens me is capitalism left and right they need some form of fascism either corporate or passive to allow ebb and flow of consumerism. 

I'd like to think that Bernie or AOC or any other independent left leaning politicians would have our interests in mind for a eutopia, but that's not how capitalism/consumerism works.  They've been willingly accepting it left and right. I say put em all against a wall firing squad.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: EdLawndale on October 07, 2025, 08:13:12 AM
^^^Username checks out.

But, also, that's a kooky take. You're going to put the ppl you have closest to an ally to death?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: ToySanta on October 07, 2025, 08:30:31 AM
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Cuban is far from my dream, as I'd much prefer an AOC or Bernie or Warren, but if a Mark Cuban being in charge would save us from this administration and its harm, well it is a compromise I'm willing to accept. At present, I just want anyone who isn't a monster to obtain power and stop what is happening. I feel Cuban would be a good bet to actually win an election.
https://www.npr.org/sections/goats-and-soda/2025/07/01/nx-s1-5452513/trump-usaid-foreign-aid-deaths
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Do you think progressives would support moderate candidates if it meant Democrats could win meaningful national elections?

People want meaningful, tangible, life affecting change and moderate democrats aren’t going to get us there. They’re going to say what they always say “well, not right now.”

Ezra Klein (not that I put any stock into him) says Dems shouldn’t run pro-abortion candidates right now. BUT. Pro-abortion candidates are polling well and winning and over half the country wants abortion legalized. You can’t run a “we’re not them” campaign and you shouldn’t run a “we’re them adjacent” campaign either. You should run on what the people want and make it happen.

Progressive candidates are winning around the country.. would you consider Cuomo a moderate? Cuz Mamdani is wooping his ass. Without moderate endorsement too.

I’d take Governor Pritzkern for prez over Cuban or Mayor Pete or Newsome; the latter two of which are gunning for the presidency obviously. Cuban is just another billionaire who’s gonna side with billionaires.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on October 07, 2025, 10:42:54 AM
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Cuban is far from my dream, as I'd much prefer an AOC or Bernie or Warren, but if a Mark Cuban being in charge would save us from this administration and its harm, well it is a compromise I'm willing to accept. At present, I just want anyone who isn't a monster to obtain power and stop what is happening. I feel Cuban would be a good bet to actually win an election.
https://www.npr.org/sections/goats-and-soda/2025/07/01/nx-s1-5452513/trump-usaid-foreign-aid-deaths
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Do you think progressives would support moderate candidates if it meant Democrats could win meaningful national elections?
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People want meaningful, tangible, life affecting change and moderate democrats aren’t going to get us there. They’re going to say what they always say “well, not right now.”

Ezra Klein (not that I put any stock into him) says Dems shouldn’t run pro-abortion candidates right now. BUT. Pro-abortion candidates are polling well and winning and over half the country wants abortion legalized. You can’t run a “we’re not them” campaign and you shouldn’t run a “we’re them adjacent” campaign either. You should run on what the people want and make it happen.

Progressive candidates are winning around the country.. would you consider Cuomo a moderate? Cuz Mamdani is wooping his ass. Without moderate endorsement too.

I’d take Governor Pritzkern for prez over Cuban or Mayor Pete or Newsome; the latter two of which are gunning for the presidency obviously. Cuban is just another billionaire who’s gonna side with billionaires.


Establish dems are trying to defend a system from Donald trump that most voters feel doesn’t work for them.   That was the main reason Kamala didn’t connect.   I don’t think a lot of voters wanted Trump as they wanted something/anything different and he was going to give that to him.

Progressive candidates like that amazing guy in Maine are who the DNC should get behind but they are so rigidly hierarchical and establishment that they never will embrace a grass-roots effort until it becomes Obama 08 level of undeniable

America shouldn’t be run like a business so fuck off with Cuban or any billionaire.   What business actually runs the way you’d want a government to emulate?   I believe in a strong, robust federal government that picks up the slack that the private sector drops because it isn’t beholden to profits or shareholders
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: wannabeam on October 07, 2025, 10:54:05 AM
What’s y’all’s takes on the theory that the mf had a stroke

president diddy sees his former lover in the darkness. each night, he steps a little closer.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on October 07, 2025, 12:42:23 PM
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Cuban is far from my dream, as I'd much prefer an AOC or Bernie or Warren, but if a Mark Cuban being in charge would save us from this administration and its harm, well it is a compromise I'm willing to accept. At present, I just want anyone who isn't a monster to obtain power and stop what is happening. I feel Cuban would be a good bet to actually win an election.
https://www.npr.org/sections/goats-and-soda/2025/07/01/nx-s1-5452513/trump-usaid-foreign-aid-deaths
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Do you think progressives would support moderate candidates if it meant Democrats could win meaningful national elections?
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People want meaningful, tangible, life affecting change and moderate democrats aren’t going to get us there. They’re going to say what they always say “well, not right now.”

Ezra Klein (not that I put any stock into him) says Dems shouldn’t run pro-abortion candidates right now. BUT. Pro-abortion candidates are polling well and winning and over half the country wants abortion legalized. You can’t run a “we’re not them” campaign and you shouldn’t run a “we’re them adjacent” campaign either. You should run on what the people want and make it happen.

Progressive candidates are winning around the country.. would you consider Cuomo a moderate? Cuz Mamdani is wooping his ass. Without moderate endorsement too.

I’d take Governor Pritzkern for prez over Cuban or Mayor Pete or Newsome; the latter two of which are gunning for the presidency obviously. Cuban is just another billionaire who’s gonna side with billionaires.
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Establish dems are trying to defend a system from Donald trump that most voters feel doesn’t work for them.   That was the main reason Kamala didn’t connect.   I don’t think a lot of voters wanted Trump as they wanted something/anything different and he was going to give that to him.

Progressive candidates like that amazing guy in Maine are who the DNC should get behind but they are so rigidly hierarchical and establishment that they never will embrace a grass-roots effort until it becomes Obama 08 level of undeniable

America shouldn’t be run like a business so fuck off with Cuban or any billionaire.   What business actually runs the way you’d want a government to emulate?   I believe in a strong, robust federal government that picks up the slack that the private sector drops because it isn’t beholden to profits or shareholders

I think the Dems need to fix 5 things to get support:
1. Identify an issue and drive a solution. Jon Stewart is correct, stop strategizing and start pushing for the answer not what is possible.

1b. In terms of housing, I still think the Dems should identify a few small towns and say, "Hooray, you won the lotto we are going to make you a city. Pour in money to develop both housing and bring in businesses." We can't all live in LA or NYC, but who says there can't be a big city designed to be walkable in central California or Eureka can't be turned into a big walkable city in NorCal?

2. Make companies afraid to push back. I don't like how Trump has done it by interfering with individual companies, but we can't go back to letting them operate without repercussions IF the Dems get power again.

3. Marketing. Trump and his band of podcaster Fox news hosts are going all in on cruelty because the fight isn't small vs big gov, it is social state vs police state. There will be hate, but let's make dramatic 50 second clips of people getting to go to the doctor, kids eating breakfast, people enjoying the streets of Portland or SF or Chicago. Make 50 second clips of the problems of rural America next to either the solution or a conservative politician fighting against the obvious solution.

3b. And, I'll continue to get hate, but I've said Cuban would be a great counter to Trump's claims. He is everything Trump wishes he was. He makes Trump look small, weak, and stupid on the all the things the conservatives want to pretend he is strong on. There is no comparison between the two men. He undoes all of Trump's strengths. If Vance is running, I'd say someone else should be the face of the dem campaign. I just think Cuban is a great counter to Trump.

As for his policies, I doubt they'd be my first choice. I just want him to be a figurehead for the campaign against Trump. An image for the administration who does the real work to stand behind. Policy debates don't work. And both parties are equally uninformed. 42% of Dems and 42% of Republicans can't identify a single right guaranteed by the First Amendment.

3c. Co-ordinated messaging. The right picks a topic and all the people from the AM hosts to podcaster to FOX zero in on it. Do the same thing.

4. Just do shit and wait for the Supreme Court to say no. It might be illegal, lol obviously this doesn't matter.

5. Project 2029 needs to be developed. Set the goals and outline the means to get there. Musk being gone is good because it stops the direct and indiscriminate carnage, but the guy who wrote Project 2025 is charge of cutting the gov now. He has an outlined planned of how he is going to move America backwards and make it worse for all of us.

6. Give fair trials for every single one of Trump's admin who engaged in illegal behavior and broke the law. Trump might be immune, but people who are not swearing an oath to the Constitution but to a leader, are doing it wrong. They need to be removed and if they broke the law given the opportunity to defend themselves in court.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: prettyeasytoday on October 07, 2025, 06:55:21 PM
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Cuban is far from my dream, as I'd much prefer an AOC or Bernie or Warren, but if a Mark Cuban being in charge would save us from this administration and its harm, well it is a compromise I'm willing to accept. At present, I just want anyone who isn't a monster to obtain power and stop what is happening. I feel Cuban would be a good bet to actually win an election.
https://www.npr.org/sections/goats-and-soda/2025/07/01/nx-s1-5452513/trump-usaid-foreign-aid-deaths
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Do you think progressives would support moderate candidates if it meant Democrats could win meaningful national elections?
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People want meaningful, tangible, life affecting change and moderate democrats aren’t going to get us there. They’re going to say what they always say “well, not right now.”

Ezra Klein (not that I put any stock into him) says Dems shouldn’t run pro-abortion candidates right now. BUT. Pro-abortion candidates are polling well and winning and over half the country wants abortion legalized. You can’t run a “we’re not them” campaign and you shouldn’t run a “we’re them adjacent” campaign either. You should run on what the people want and make it happen.

Progressive candidates are winning around the country.. would you consider Cuomo a moderate? Cuz Mamdani is wooping his ass. Without moderate endorsement too.

I’d take Governor Pritzkern for prez over Cuban or Mayor Pete or Newsome; the latter two of which are gunning for the presidency obviously. Cuban is just another billionaire who’s gonna side with billionaires.
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Establish dems are trying to defend a system from Donald trump that most voters feel doesn’t work for them.   That was the main reason Kamala didn’t connect.   I don’t think a lot of voters wanted Trump as they wanted something/anything different and he was going to give that to him.

Progressive candidates like that amazing guy in Maine are who the DNC should get behind but they are so rigidly hierarchical and establishment that they never will embrace a grass-roots effort until it becomes Obama 08 level of undeniable

America shouldn’t be run like a business so fuck off with Cuban or any billionaire.   What business actually runs the way you’d want a government to emulate?   I believe in a strong, robust federal government that picks up the slack that the private sector drops because it isn’t beholden to profits or shareholders
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I think the Dems need to fix 5 things to get support:
1. Identify an issue and drive a solution. Jon Stewart is correct, stop strategizing and start pushing for the answer not what is possible.

1b. In terms of housing, I still think the Dems should identify a few small towns and say, "Hooray, you won the lotto we are going to make you a city. Pour in money to develop both housing and bring in businesses." We can't all live in LA or NYC, but who says there can't be a big city designed to be walkable in central California or Eureka can't be turned into a big walkable city in NorCal?

2. Make companies afraid to push back. I don't like how Trump has done it by interfering with individual companies, but we can't go back to letting them operate without repercussions IF the Dems get power again.

3. Marketing. Trump and his band of podcaster Fox news hosts are going all in on cruelty because the fight isn't small vs big gov, it is social state vs police state. There will be hate, but let's make dramatic 50 second clips of people getting to go to the doctor, kids eating breakfast, people enjoying the streets of Portland or SF or Chicago. Make 50 second clips of the problems of rural America next to either the solution or a conservative politician fighting against the obvious solution.

3b. And, I'll continue to get hate, but I've said Cuban would be a great counter to Trump's claims. He is everything Trump wishes he was. He makes Trump look small, weak, and stupid on the all the things the conservatives want to pretend he is strong on. There is no comparison between the two men. He undoes all of Trump's strengths. If Vance is running, I'd say someone else should be the face of the dem campaign. I just think Cuban is a great counter to Trump.

As for his policies, I doubt they'd be my first choice. I just want him to be a figurehead for the campaign against Trump. An image for the administration who does the real work to stand behind. Policy debates don't work. And both parties are equally uninformed. 42% of Dems and 42% of Republicans can't identify a single right guaranteed by the First Amendment.

3c. Co-ordinated messaging. The right picks a topic and all the people from the AM hosts to podcaster to FOX zero in on it. Do the same thing.

4. Just do shit and wait for the Supreme Court to say no. It might be illegal, lol obviously this doesn't matter.

5. Project 2029 needs to be developed. Set the goals and outline the means to get there. Musk being gone is good because it stops the direct and indiscriminate carnage, but the guy who wrote Project 2025 is charge of cutting the gov now. He has an outlined planned of how he is going to move America backwards and make it worse for all of us.

6. Give fair trials for every single one of Trump's admin who engaged in illegal behavior and broke the law. Trump might be immune, but people who are not swearing an oath to the Constitution but to a leader, are doing it wrong. They need to be removed and if they broke the law given the opportunity to defend themselves in court.

A pleasant surprise to see you guys engage earnestly on this question and not just assume I was trolling because I wrote something other than frantic alarmism. As far as progressives winning elections- yes Mamdani is succeeding on a progressive platform but he is in very very progressive NYC and it would be difficult to reproduce that success in swing states. America's persuadable middle (the voters we need to actually win back the presidency and Congress) have shown that they do not have much of an appetite for those kind of progressive candidates. That's why we get candidates like Josh Shapiro, Mark Kelly, or Raphael Warnock in those states. Also, the reason most persuadable voters skew away from progressives these days isn't issue-based, its cultural. It's how aggressive, alienating, and obnoxious we can be in standing against what we see as the rising tide of fascism. Non-progressives do not view the current moment as being quite so dire.

As far as Cuban- the Democrats have to stop aiming for the Big Hollywood vibe and put on some jeans. Cuban is precisely what will continue to alienate persuadable voters who want to see a candidate be less stilted and formal. Trump is able to come across as populist despite his wealth because of his charisma, a category in which, for persuadable voters, he wipes the floor with Cuban.

As for your points Lurper:
1- this requires progressives to stand down and support moderates, and stop pushing what is "possible"
2- twisting yourself into a bit of a pretzel here
3- the needle-mover in politics has shifted from issues to personalities. who is saying something matters more than the thing theyre saying
3b- Cuban went out on the campaign trail for Kamala and wasn't able to manifest any of this. Again, he is a billionaire and Democrats need to shift away from glitz and glamour and come across as regular folks.
4- careful with the nihilism here dude
5- why in the world would you use the "Project 20__" branding for a Democratic response to Project 2025?
6- as has been shown countless times, it doesn't matter which cronies you lock up. the train keeps moving.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: SmashtheState on October 08, 2025, 07:05:17 AM
^^^Username checks out.

But, also, that's a kooky take. You're going to put the ppl you have closest to an ally to death?
Not necessarily, I do think there needs to be a wholesale dismantling of this "American dream"  that was stamped in to Ellis Island. Clearly it's meant for posturing.

For how long this idea of pulling ourselves by the bootstraps and make the day yours and damned if anyone else needs a hand especially farmers or factory workers in unions?! 

What makes me want to vomit is there's 2 sides and I'm not saying I don't vote blue as I've done it many time's before. It just seems like everyone is complicit in some capacity either well it's this or that mentality. 
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Shapelessness on October 08, 2025, 07:37:06 PM
Yes. It's AI. but worth the listen. IMO.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWpfABdXo98&t=368s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWpfABdXo98&t=368s)
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: JANUS on October 09, 2025, 05:15:24 AM
Elon Musk telling me to watch Charlie Kirk… you must understand my hesitation.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Audrey II on October 09, 2025, 05:40:18 AM
Yes. It's AI. but worth the listen. IMO.

ill save some of you some time. its not.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: JM on October 09, 2025, 06:16:31 AM
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Yes. It's AI. but worth the listen. IMO.
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ill save some of you some time. its not.

Now, now… be polite and listen to what the fake computer man has to say.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Shapelessness on October 09, 2025, 09:35:30 AM
Elon Musk telling me to watch Charlie Kirk… you must understand my hesitation.

all good. i do understand. i just thought the algorithm parts were interesting and part of the plan for the masses.

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Kielwasser on October 09, 2025, 03:53:12 PM
Scientist and author of the Antifa book had his flights cancelled trying to leave the US with his family to escape death threats. You guys are a few months out from Gestapo times. I hope we make it through this without a couple million innocent murdered.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: able on October 09, 2025, 04:06:18 PM
The author is Mark Bray and here’s an article about it

 https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/oct/09/anti-fascism-mark-bray-rutgers-university
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on October 10, 2025, 02:16:36 AM
Fucking loooove that a Venezuelan won the Peace prize
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on October 10, 2025, 09:15:47 AM
Fucking loooove that a Venezuelan won the Peace prize

MAGA is upset that Trump "LOST" the Peace Prize. But was Trump ever in contention? Like, what are the formalities for being nominated for one? 

Edit: Read you have to be nominated by an organization and I'm pretty sure MAGA and Republicans had the Heritage Foundation or some shit nominate him.

Edit 2: The Nobel committee's response of "we only give it to people of integrity and courage" was a very classy way of insulting Trump without insulting him. 
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on October 10, 2025, 09:17:11 AM
Hegseth just announced the building of a Qatari air force base on one of our own bases in Idaho.

So, that's what a "gift" of a $400M jet to Trump gets you -- access to US military facilities. Great.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on October 10, 2025, 10:43:06 AM
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Fucking loooove that a Venezuelan won the Peace prize
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MAGA is upset that Trump "LOST" the Peace Prize. But was Trump ever in contention? Like, what are the formalities for being nominated for one? 

Edit: Read you have to be nominated by an organization and I'm pretty sure MAGA and Republicans had the Heritage Foundation or some shit nominate him.

Edit 2: The Nobel committee's response of "we only give it to people of integrity and courage" was a very classy way of insulting Trump without insulting him.


Some leaders say the nominated him as a way of assuaging tariffs.   I think Pakistan said they would to fuck with India
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Democratic Republic Of Mongo on October 14, 2025, 07:11:02 AM
Hostages returned, genocide canceled, etc
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Boomerforums on October 14, 2025, 10:35:12 AM
Hostages returned, genocide canceled, etc
LOL
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Boomerforums on October 14, 2025, 10:41:19 AM
Trump freed Palestine how do you guys feel about that
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: S. on October 14, 2025, 11:06:05 AM
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Fucking loooove that a Venezuelan won the Peace prize
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MAGA is upset that Trump "LOST" the Peace Prize. But was Trump ever in contention? Like, what are the formalities for being nominated for one? 

Edit: Read you have to be nominated by an organization and I'm pretty sure MAGA and Republicans had the Heritage Foundation or some shit nominate him.

Edit 2: The Nobel committee's response of "we only give it to people of integrity and courage" was a very classy way of insulting Trump without insulting him.


Not really. Machado was nominated by Marco Rubio and a few other Republicans. She has been openly pro MAGA for a long time even openly asking for a military intervention in Venezuela by the US under Trump. Anyone who is a bit familiar with Latin American politics thinks her getting the prize is a joke. Yes she opposes an authoritarian president, but in her politics she has neither been against violence nor has she been very pro democracy (she has backed a military coup against a democratically elected president and she has recently applauded Trump for his extra judicial killings of Venezuelans)

Basically choosing her was a way of not choosing Trump without really displeasing his team.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on October 14, 2025, 12:11:02 PM
Trump freed Palestine how do you guys feel about that

You sure about that one bud?
(https://i.postimg.cc/Px1Kq6cp/IMG-6047.png) (https://postimg.cc/bDN1CRqp)
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Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on October 14, 2025, 01:08:41 PM
Trump freed Palestine how do you guys feel about that

Let me guess, you also believed Trump when he said that he solved COVID by simply ignoring it?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: JoseCansnake0 on October 14, 2025, 01:26:22 PM
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Trump freed Palestine how do you guys feel about that
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Let me guess, you also believed Trump when he said that he solved COVID by simply ignoring it?

Solved? It still exists, and likely always will
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on October 14, 2025, 01:48:47 PM
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Trump freed Palestine how do you guys feel about that
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Let me guess, you also believed Trump when he said that he solved COVID by simply ignoring it?
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Solved? It still exists, and likely always will

I get that it will always be a problem.

Was pointing to the fact in 2020 when Trump was focused on his rallies over the early stages of the epidemic, he said COVID was solved after he mentioned injecting bleach and his followers listened and parroted it. Much like they did when they argued (earlier on) that COVID was a Democratic hoax that would disappear after the 2020 election.

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Boomerforums on October 14, 2025, 02:04:44 PM
Yea I dunno what was up with that covid shit I never got a vaccine and never got sick

They call us purebloods lol 8)
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on October 14, 2025, 04:05:45 PM
Yea I dunno what was up with that covid shit I never got a vaccine and never got sick

They call us purebloods lol 8)

100% shit is pure shit
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: JANUS on October 14, 2025, 05:22:27 PM
They We call us ourselves purebloods lol 8)
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Chalupa on October 14, 2025, 07:21:11 PM
Yea I dunno what was up with that covid shit I never got a vaccine and never got sick

They call us purebloods lol 8)
Unless you cut a hole in every face masks and posted up at a truck stop glory hole on a daily basis, I’m not impressed.

Around 40% of the population had COVID but were asymptomatic. The rate was even higher for pediatric patients.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: h00man on October 14, 2025, 08:19:59 PM
Yea I dunno what was up with that covid shit I never got a vaccine and never got sick

They call us purebloods lol 8)
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Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: devils acrobat on October 15, 2025, 03:06:15 AM
The author is Mark Bray and here’s an article about it

 https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/oct/09/anti-fascism-mark-bray-rutgers-university

I havent heard about this one but it is scary. I have colleagues in academia that will not travel to the US for conferences anymore due to background checks etc. And they are both US citizens and europeans.

Also guys, dont feed the troll and use the ignore button please 
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Boomerforums on October 15, 2025, 07:38:41 AM
Seems my superiority has caused some controversy here
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on October 15, 2025, 09:22:51 AM
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The author is Mark Bray and here’s an article about it

 https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/oct/09/anti-fascism-mark-bray-rutgers-university
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I havent heard about this one but it is scary. I have colleagues in academia that will not travel to the US for conferences anymore due to background checks etc. And they are both US citizens and europeans.

Also guys, dont feed the troll and use the ignore button please

Also, the White House announced it denied visas to people over their social media comments over Charlie Kirk's death.

First Amendment is officially dead.

Fuck you, MAGATs and non-voters, for this mess.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Shitbag on October 15, 2025, 12:48:12 PM
Trump will be the next Bond villain, Neckpussy, confirmed.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on October 15, 2025, 01:24:32 PM
Trump will be the next Bond villain, Neckpussy, confirmed.

(https://i.redd.it/t93y30ug70c41.jpg)
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Rusty Shackleford on October 15, 2025, 04:47:47 PM
Trump will be the next Bond villain, Neckpussy, confirmed.

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSsJls4cnV-U-HbYGIuIFQ2DhHiQYRkHsexQLfIgfWey5nbadHLsKGXGTHH&s=10)
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on October 17, 2025, 11:47:37 PM
It has been impossible to keep up with changes, here is a short list

Pardons are available for anyone who kisses the president's ass regardless of how obvious and belligerent the crime
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/17/us/politics/trump-george-santos-sentence-commute.html

Indictments are for those who upset the president at some point
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jack-smith-james-comey-pam-bondi/

Military leaders needlessly flown to single place and  told to practice on American cities
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvgq044n72po

President wants to deploy Texas National Guard in Illinois (red state troops being sent to a blue state to occupy major city)
https://www.npr.org/2025/10/17/nx-s1-5578266/trump-supreme-court-national-guard-illinois

Trump wants to send National Guard to Portland to beat up people in frog costumes
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/5558187-donald-trump-national-guard-portland/

Elon "saved" 150 billion with his indiscriminate cuts to things he thinks sounded like stuff he didn't like, but we have 20 billion to send to Argentina to bail out their shitty leader
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/why-trump-is-giving-argentina-a-20-billion-lifeline-to-help-its-flailing-economy

Texas redid its districts at an odd time to make sure democracy isn't served
https://www.texastribune.org/2025/09/29/texas-redistricting-congressional-map-lawsuit-injunction-hearing/

Border Czar Tom Homan accepted a bag of 50K prior to coming into office, DOJ say's "lol no biggie"
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-aide-homan-accepted-50000-bribery-sting-operation-sources-say-2025-09-21/

Johnson (who American dad did an episode about before he was famous because he is so fucking weird) won't swear in Dem rep from Arizona
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/10/17/johnson-refuses-to-swear-in-grijalva-brushes-aside-democrats-legal-threat-00613318

This makes sure the Epstien Files aren't released
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/most-americans-want-the-epstein-files-released-poll-finds

Inflation and unemployment rise
https://thehill.com/business/5555411-powell-inflation-labor-market/

Healthcare premiums set to jump for some Americans
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/26/your-money/health-insurance-premiums-increase.html

Research across all sorts of disciplines being cancelled
https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2025/09/30/congress/trump-vought-cancel-food-research-funding-congress-00588358

We get to pay soybean farmers to watch their crop rot... again
https://www.csmonitor.com/Business/2025/1015/soybean-farmers-trump-bailout-china

Argentina and Brazilian farmers sell more soy than ever
https://farmdocdaily.illinois.edu/2025/09/us-soybean-harvest-starts-with-no-sign-of-chinese-buying-as-brazil-sets-export-record.html

This win for Brazil is extra good as it may mean more deforestation of the Amazon
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/15/climate/china-brazil-soybeans-trade-midwest-amazon.html

Color me thrilled with all the winning the American people are getting while Kushner rolls around in his 2 billion dollar Saudi money, the Trump family scam coins are funneling money into their pockets, and all other numerous scams at our expense and safety.

Edit:
adding this one about the puppy killer getting a couple of private jets to fly around doing nothing. $100 million on private jets, but too poor for meals on wheels
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/18/us/politics/kristi-noem-dhs-gulfstream.html
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on October 17, 2025, 11:52:33 PM
Trump commuted George Santos’ sentence for fraud with the explanation that it’s because he [Santos] supported Trump.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: fuck_that_guy on October 18, 2025, 05:26:02 PM
fuck that guy and fuck that guy too
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Shitbag on October 20, 2025, 09:26:06 AM
This video is from the No Kings protest in Denver, MAGAT chanting God Bless Trump and shouting gay slur gets his shades snatched off his face by a kid with a skateboard and well, hilarity ensues.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DQAlj77iZ4H/?igsh=b2Q4MDViZDNnOHJw
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on October 20, 2025, 12:21:04 PM
This video is from the No Kings protest in Denver, MAGAT chanting God Bless Trump and shouting gay slur gets his shades snatched off his face by a kid with a skateboard and well, hilarity ensues.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DQAlj77iZ4H/?igsh=b2Q4MDViZDNnOHJw


Funniest part is it’s Denver, yet it’s a kid in a Yankees beanie fucking with a guy in a NY Giants shirt
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on October 20, 2025, 12:55:43 PM
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This video is from the No Kings protest in Denver, MAGAT chanting God Bless Trump and shouting gay slur gets his shades snatched off his face by a kid with a skateboard and well, hilarity ensues.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DQAlj77iZ4H/?igsh=b2Q4MDViZDNnOHJw
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Funniest part is it’s Denver, yet it’s a kid in a Yankees beanie fucking with a guy in a NY Giants shirt

You know that old fart’s Meta post will be something like, “I was attacked by 100 communists” before he starts a Go-Fund me then runs for office in Colorado.

I’m also impressed that the dude was able to curb stomp himself.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on October 20, 2025, 05:02:27 PM
Get ready to pay for even more welfare checks to tRump supporting farmers:
(https://i.postimg.cc/WpwmDN14/IMG-6075.png) (https://postimg.cc/BttPkGDW)
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-plan-import-argentine-beef-angers-us-farmers-2025-10-20/

Murica first right?! We’re winning(the race to third world nation status)!!!
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: JoseCansnake0 on October 20, 2025, 06:47:25 PM
Get ready to pay for even more welfare checks to tRump supporting farmers:
(https://i.postimg.cc/WpwmDN14/IMG-6075.png) (https://postimg.cc/BttPkGDW)
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-plan-import-argentine-beef-angers-us-farmers-2025-10-20/

Murica first right?! We’re winning(the race to third world nation status)!!!

bro chill on the rage bait news. This is NOTHING

I've bought and sold land based proteins for the last 10+ years, and have sold plenty of fabricated Australian, as well as South American cattle. It's out there, just a matter of who's buying it. You won't see anything new at your local supermarket. Nothin new, just rage bait news.

welfare checks, third world nation? wtf are you talking about
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mongo Lloyd on October 20, 2025, 07:16:00 PM
Jose is cool with the 40 billion Argentina bail out too!
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on October 20, 2025, 07:32:44 PM
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Get ready to pay for even more welfare checks to tRump supporting farmers:
(https://i.postimg.cc/WpwmDN14/IMG-6075.png) (https://postimg.cc/BttPkGDW)
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-plan-import-argentine-beef-angers-us-farmers-2025-10-20/

Murica first right?! We’re winning(the race to third world nation status)!!!
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bro chill on the rage bait news. This is NOTHING

I've bought and sold land based proteins for the last 10+ years, and have sold plenty of fabricated Australian, as well as South American cattle. It's out there, just a matter of who's buying it. You won't see anything new at your local supermarket. Nothin new, just rage bait news.

welfare checks, third world nation? wtf are you talking about

Rage bait news? Bud these are facts from an unbiased news outlet. So the BILLIONS we’re paying(aka bailout aka welfare checks) were paying to farmers that can’t sell their crops thanks to tRumps ‘BEAUTIFUL TARIFFS’ isn’t happening? But wait! Now we’re going to be funding even more since   tRumps undercutting yet another AMERICAN FARMERS SOURCE of income.
These are facts.
Bailouts are welfare.
So, when the recession hits will reports of that will be rage bait as well? Come to the continental US and join in the fun! IT’L BE THE  YUGEST RECESSION EVER! So much recession for all!

Good thing you’re on an island, not over here. Easier to ignore facts apparently. Don’t t worry though, you’ll feel the affects there as well.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on October 21, 2025, 01:04:37 PM
Jesus using the DOJ, FCC, and other orgs to force others into settling bullshit lawsuits wasn't enough, now he wants us to pay him 230 million

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/21/us/politics/trump-justice-department-compensation.html
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on October 21, 2025, 01:25:43 PM
Jesus using the DOJ, FCC, and other orgs to force others into settling bullshit lawsuits wasn't enough, now he wants us to pay him 230 million

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/21/us/politics/trump-justice-department-compensation.html

And you know Pam Bondi won't object to it.

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on October 22, 2025, 03:55:14 PM
Confirmed that SNAP won't be allocated this November.

Lots of Americans gonna be starving around the table this Thanksgiving while finding something to give thanks about.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mongo Lloyd on October 22, 2025, 04:04:32 PM
I just want @JoseCansnake0 to come back and defend his boy some more.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: EdLawndale on October 22, 2025, 04:23:02 PM
What a gaslighter.

He's really leaning into this victim mentality and acting like a situation where he is/was completely the perpetrator of bad behavior (but it didn't work out for him because he was caught and held accountable), that it is now a foregone conclusion that it was in fact some awful event that made him suffer.

This man is disgusting.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DQH0O5yjGSf/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==


I really hope all these people get tried for treason after they drive America into the ground.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on October 22, 2025, 04:33:34 PM
I just want @JoseCansnake0 to come back and defend his boy some more.

He'd be like, Trump is playing chess — by starving people through the holidays, people will get back into a healthy weight and fit shape. Just like Trump, because his doctor said he's 6'3" 175lbs of pure muscle.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on October 22, 2025, 04:34:47 PM
What a gaslighter.

He's really leaning into this victim mentality and acting like a situation where he is/was completely the perpetrator of bad behavior (but it didn't work out for him because he was caught and held accountable), that it is now a foregone conclusion that it was in fact some awful event that made him suffer.

This man is disgusting.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DQH0O5yjGSf/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==


I really hope all these people get tried for treason after they drive America into the ground.

Man really thinks by calling everything a "national security" that he has free reign to do whatever he wants. And sadly, it's working. Congress and SCOTUS are just letting it happen.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: h00man on October 22, 2025, 05:13:06 PM
I just want @JoseCansnake0 to come back and defend his boy some more.

watch out man, he's going to claim he's not a supporter:

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I’ve been lurking through this thread here and there. Is there anybody in this whole thread that’s pro trump?

I’m definitely not but I’m a little surprised it seems there is no one here riding trumps dick.
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Yeah, this guy

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You are a such a tool. I think you need to stop watching the news, it's poising your head.

Also,
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I forgot you exist.
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What makes this even more gratifying, is that you're dead wrong. i'm not a supporter in any way. i just think you're a kook and you need to be reminded of that on a skateboard forum
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whatever you say, Mr. Trump supporter.
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I keep a list of quotes in my phone, and you fit this one perfectly:

"A man who thinks he's enlightened, is merely a shadow"

As a skateboarder, who comes here to read about skateboarding, it's sad to see the majority of your posts are about politics. And you don't hold back on which way, and anyone who opposes you are called names and treated as lesser. Do better shadow boy
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: brycickle on October 22, 2025, 05:19:15 PM
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I just want @JoseCansnake0 to come back and defend his boy some more.
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He'd be like, Trump is playing chess — by starving people through the holidays, people will get back into a healthy weight and fit shape. Just like Trump, because his doctor said he's 6'3" 175lbs of pure muscle.
4 dimensional chess at that.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Noble Experiment on October 22, 2025, 06:41:45 PM
Confirmed that SNAP won't be allocated this November.

Lots of Americans gonna be starving around the table this Thanksgiving while finding something to give thanks about.
Source? I tried looking this up but couldn’t find anything on it, or maybe I’m just internet search illiterate idk.
A huge percentage of SNAP benefits goes towards children in America and making sure they’re fed; such fucked news.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on October 22, 2025, 07:31:22 PM
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I just want @JoseCansnake0 to come back and defend his boy some more.
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He'd be like, Trump is playing chess — by starving people through the holidays, people will get back into a healthy weight and fit shape. Just like Trump, because his doctor said he's 6'3" 175lbs of pure muscle.
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4 dimensional chess checkers tiddlywinks at that.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on October 22, 2025, 07:46:17 PM
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Confirmed that SNAP won't be allocated this November.

Lots of Americans gonna be starving around the table this Thanksgiving while finding something to give thanks about.
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Source? I tried looking this up but couldn’t find anything on it, or maybe I’m just internet search illiterate idk.
A huge percentage of SNAP benefits goes towards children in America and making sure they’re fed; such fucked news.

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/government-shutdown-snap-benefits-delayed-usda/

Foodbanks are being swarmed. Republicans have convinced their base that SNAP is only used by black welfare queens that don’t want to work. Glossing over that most who use SNAP are children, elderly, and disabled.

Also, Republicans will most def let kids go hungry. Their concern for them stops once they exit the womb.

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on October 22, 2025, 08:54:48 PM
LET THEM EAT BALLROOMS!
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Rusty Shackleford on October 23, 2025, 04:33:18 PM
taking away food stamps before thanksgiving while building a $300m gold & marble dancehall so that other crooks can bribe you over a poorly cooked argentinian steak...yeah that does sound very marie antoinette..
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Painted Baby on October 23, 2025, 05:02:13 PM
LET THEM EAT BALLROOMS!
Let them eat shit
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on October 23, 2025, 05:30:02 PM
taking away food stamps before thanksgiving while building a $300m gold & marble dancehall so that other crooks can bribe you over a poorly cooked argentinian steak...yeah that does sound very marie antoinette..

Add to the fact that Trump killed the (according to him) “overly political” USDA food insecurity study in order to prevent data from his BBB killing SNAP showing how much he hurt the American people.

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on October 23, 2025, 06:25:33 PM
Let's all remember we voted Trump because the money being spent on Ukraine should have been spent here.

How do people fall for this shit every time?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on October 23, 2025, 07:15:59 PM

How do people fall for this shit every time?

Trump: "I love the poorly educated."

Also Trump: "Smart people don't like me."

So, yea, basically 2/3rds of this nation are the dumbest of fucks.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Shapelessness on October 23, 2025, 07:44:01 PM
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How do people fall for this shit every time?
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Trump: "I love the poorly educated."

Also Trump: "Smart people don't like me."

So, yea, basically 2/3rds of this nation are the dumbest of fucks.
WORD!
That propaganda is a helluva drug.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: brycickle on October 23, 2025, 08:02:48 PM
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How do people fall for this shit every time?
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Trump: "I love the poorly educated."

Also Trump: "Smart people don't like me."

So, yea, basically 2/3rds of this nation are the dumbest of fucks.

2/3rds? Only like 23% of the population voted for him.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: JoseCansnake0 on October 23, 2025, 08:09:35 PM
I just want @JoseCansnake0 to come back and defend his boy some more.

Chill out. You don't know me. It's hilarious to me that internet bullying exists in 2025, especially on a skateboard forum, even more so concerning politics. I simply replied based on my knowledge of the beef industry in the USA, which is absolutely fucked in so many ways, and has been for decades, through many different presidents on both sides. Plan9customs corny ass response was enough to give me a chuckle and move on.

Ya'll are corny af. Hope you have a great session next time you're out
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on October 23, 2025, 08:28:56 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/vBWtFnfp/IMG-6091.png) (https://postimg.cc/mzgH7tdw)

https://www.wsj.com/politics/policy/trump-says-he-is-terminating-trade-negotiations-with-canada-baa4c83b

Hope you all stockpiled boards.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on October 23, 2025, 08:36:51 PM
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How do people fall for this shit every time?
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Trump: "I love the poorly educated."

Also Trump: "Smart people don't like me."

So, yea, basically 2/3rds of this nation are the dumbest of fucks.
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2/3rds? Only like 23% of the population voted for him.

That number includes the number of Americans who chose to not vote because they were protest voting Kamala and/or have the mentality that “both parties are the same.”
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on October 23, 2025, 10:00:26 PM
News outlets need to stop letting conversations like this — especially from Trump and his associates — be passed of as merely heresay. He’s blatantly stating that Republicans are readying themselves to basically overthrow the government and the Constitution.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/steve-bannon-reveals-theres-a-plan-for-third-donald-trump-term/
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: JANUS on October 24, 2025, 05:49:25 AM
(https://i.postimg.cc/vBWtFnfp/IMG-6091.png) (https://postimg.cc/mzgH7tdw)

https://www.wsj.com/politics/policy/trump-says-he-is-terminating-trade-negotiations-with-canada-baa4c83b

Hope you all stockpiled boards.

Rofl he’s doing it because an anti-tariff advertisement hurt his feelings. What a little bitch.

(Also, no, I’ve only got one deck in reserve and I’m a little nervous. Time to turn my desk into bloards.)
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on October 24, 2025, 09:18:05 AM
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(https://i.postimg.cc/vBWtFnfp/IMG-6091.png) (https://postimg.cc/mzgH7tdw)

https://www.wsj.com/politics/policy/trump-says-he-is-terminating-trade-negotiations-with-canada-baa4c83b

Hope you all stockpiled boards.
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Rofl he’s doing it because an anti-tariff advertisement hurt his feelings. What a little bitch.

(Also, no, I’ve only got one deck in reserve and I’m a little nervous. Time to turn my desk into bloards.)

This is gonna raise the stakes on the current Canada vs USA World Series 🤣
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on October 24, 2025, 09:53:13 AM
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(https://i.postimg.cc/vBWtFnfp/IMG-6091.png) (https://postimg.cc/mzgH7tdw)

https://www.wsj.com/politics/policy/trump-says-he-is-terminating-trade-negotiations-with-canada-baa4c83b

Hope you all stockpiled boards.
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Rofl he’s doing it because an anti-tariff advertisement hurt his feelings. What a little bitch.

(Also, no, I’ve only got one deck in reserve and I’m a little nervous. Time to turn my desk into bloards.)


Quoting Reagan and it aired during the Jays game
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: SmashtheState on October 24, 2025, 10:17:14 AM
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How do people fall for this shit every time?
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Trump: "I love the poorly educated."

Also Trump: "Smart people don't like me."

So, yea, basically 2/3rds of this nation are the dumbest of fucks.
Let those that didn't vote or voted for this ass clown. I hope thoughts and prayers feed your families, although nothing nutritional hope it fills them with misery and discontent fuck em.  I fucking hate this country and this administration.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Top-Heavy Hookjaw on October 24, 2025, 04:25:08 PM
Surprised no one is talking about the Trump sanctioned murders of Venezuelan boating enthusiasts.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on October 24, 2025, 04:33:43 PM
Surprised no one is talking about the Trump sanctioned murders of Venezuelan boating enthusiasts.

Because there's TOO much crazy shit going on at once.

I've said it a thousand times and I'll say it again, I miss boring politics. Politics where the president and their administration would just work. Not create crazy fuck scenarios, not break the law, and basically not have new crises every god damn morning.

Like Trump just announced how he's going to be watching closely "blue states" for the sake of making sure voting is legal and fair. aka he's going to make sure ICE is at every polling station to intimidate and arrest voters.

 
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on October 24, 2025, 05:34:15 PM
Surprised no one is talking about the Trump sanctioned murders of Venezuelan boating enthusiasts.

Believe he took out a Colombian fisher on one of those boats as well.   Don’t worry, we’re sending an air craft carrier down to de-escalate everything
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: radcunt on October 24, 2025, 07:39:32 PM
Better buckle in because trumps buddies are buying pretty much all the entertainment and news networks.  I really can’t see the world getting out of this anytime soon unless it all burns to the ground. 


With AI aiming at decimating the arts and creative class so there’s no cultural push back and creativity is ‘democratised’ to corporations, it’s looking to be a super fun future. 
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on October 24, 2025, 07:47:01 PM
Funny you mentioned burning. Seems that’s the only way to effectively remove a blood sucking parasite that’s burrowed into something.

Oh we all know he’s approved releasing FEMA funding right?
But, you know, it’s just to states that voted for him. Sure hope there aren’t any tRump supporters that have a disaster happen in a non tRump voting state. They sure owned those libtards though. 🥴
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mr. Pickles on October 25, 2025, 12:11:23 AM
Bitch ass was scared of the bay. Send the goons in, see what happens.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on October 25, 2025, 12:23:07 AM
Bitch ass was scared of the bay. Send the goons in, see what happens.

I wish - his donors just called and said don’t rile up our white employees
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Top-Heavy Hookjaw on October 25, 2025, 06:18:12 AM
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Surprised no one is talking about the Trump sanctioned murders of Venezuelan boating enthusiasts.
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Because there's TOO much crazy shit going on at once.

I've said it a thousand times and I'll say it again, I miss boring politics. Politics where the president and their administration would just work. Not create crazy fuck scenarios, not break the law, and basically not have new crises every god damn morning.

Like Trump just announced how he's going to be watching closely "blue states" for the sake of making sure voting is legal and fair. aka he's going to make sure ICE is at every polling station to intimidate and arrest voters.
I agree, you’re absolutely right that all this Fuckery limits people‘s bandwidth to what’s going on in other parts of the world
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: SmashtheState on October 25, 2025, 09:25:37 AM
Seems to me this has been their (Republicans agenda) all along just they found a straw man to say it's his doing.

Just like the Nazis rose to power suppress media, imprison his opponents, lie upon lie upon lie, starve the masses and inflict cruelty through any means necessary albeit death camps/detention centers. The only way to solve this disaster is like the french take em out in the streets and guillotine or hangings.

 This administration is fucked and they definitely have their hand stacked for any such opposition. Burn this system down and start a new. America is fucked remember how long it took for the remnants of Bush Jr to kinda get stabilized? Fuck it took just about Obama's 1st term to clean that debacle and it was but wasn't as bad of a shit show. Someone reigned in the right side.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Farts on October 25, 2025, 10:45:22 AM
I'm on EBT its not the end of the world

To the people who want to burn down the government. What should disabled people who depend on the government do in that scenario?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: SmashtheState on October 25, 2025, 12:34:58 PM
I'm on EBT its not the end of the world

To the people who want to burn down the government. What should disabled people who depend on the government do in that scenario?
Fight back by any means necessary, stealing from corporate stores and doing scam's on seller's albeit amazon there's plenty of stores that's no chase policy even after the pandemic.  Tbh this injustice of starving people is going to be a boiling point for people, I'm not going to snitch on someone for getting their food in one capacity or another.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Farts on October 25, 2025, 12:53:55 PM
Dam u dumb as hell

For me, everything is great. I am thankful for being alive everyday. I can almost guarantee I am poorer than most here. I don't look up Donald Trump shit. Life is great despite no EBT.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on October 25, 2025, 01:12:37 PM
I'm willing to engage with someone to understand their ideas when they can operate in good faith. There is zero chance of that occurring here. Easiest solution

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Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: SmashtheState on October 25, 2025, 01:17:12 PM
Dam u dumb as hell
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So says the guy with a username named Farts and can't spell... You're right you must be the toughest swimmer out of your dad's nuts sack. Please for the love of Christ don't breed.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Farts on October 25, 2025, 01:32:38 PM
I'm willing to engage with someone to understand their ideas when they can operate in good faith. There is zero chance of that occurring here. Easiest solution

(https://i.ibb.co/dsxRJMxz/Screenshot-2025-10-25-at-1-09-16-PM.png)
Ahhhahahah This guys happy! Block him! hahaa wtf

I know your gonna click expand comment too
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: SmashtheState on October 25, 2025, 01:50:47 PM
I'm willing to engage with someone to understand their ideas when they can operate in good faith. There is zero chance of that occurring here. Easiest solution

(https://i.ibb.co/dsxRJMxz/Screenshot-2025-10-25-at-1-09-16-PM.png)
Thanks for pointing out that ignore feature.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Candied cigarettes on October 25, 2025, 02:14:48 PM
Awful
Trump administration finalizes plan to open pristine Alaska wildlife refuge to oil and gas drilling

https://www.npr.org/2025/10/24/nx-s1-5584883/trump-alaska-wildlife-refuge-oil-gas-drilling
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mr. Pickles on October 25, 2025, 03:24:31 PM
How was Farts not already taken as a username?!
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on October 25, 2025, 04:38:31 PM
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Dam u dumb as hell
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So says the guy with a username named Farts and can't spell... You're right you must be the toughest swimmer out of your dad's nuts sack. Please for the love of Christ don't breed.

It’s that fucknut Boomerforums back to try and keep spreading shit. Leave him and his ‘pure blood’ alone, unless you want the stench of shit on you.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: cornman on October 25, 2025, 05:57:03 PM
I'm on EBT its not the end of the world

To the people who want to burn down the government. What should disabled people who depend on the government do in that scenario?
Damn, who’s this cracker?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: prettyeasytoday on October 26, 2025, 10:26:46 AM
proposing that we "burn it all down," do french revolution style stuff in the streets, or steal from corporations to get by are all really terrible suggestions for how to get out of this mess.

we arent going to get anywhere until people start thinking realistically about courses of action. the constant fascistic posturing by the right is designed to prevent us from doing that and instead provoke irrational, visceral reactions. at some point we have to turn theory into constructive action and we are still miles from that
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on October 28, 2025, 02:57:30 PM
More people murdered by the US over "drugs," i.e. Rubio's ideological fervor to get Venezuela and then Cuba.
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/10/28/us/trump-news-japan

The idea Trump and his pals give a fuck about drugs is absurd, let's not forget Ross Ulbricht was pardoned despite running a huge online drug market. I'd much prefer drugs to be legal and strong incentives to avoid and stop usage, but that is neither here nor there, the point is the ability to outright lie for personal gain.

https://www.npr.org/2025/01/21/nx-s1-5270051/trump-pardons-dark-web-marketplace-creator-ross-ulbricht
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Allen. on October 30, 2025, 03:47:36 AM
 So uh gay marriage
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on October 30, 2025, 11:34:45 AM
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/10/trump-officials-military-housing-stephen-miller/684748/

Trump officials are moving onto military bases. Yep, they’re for sure readying themselves to use the military as their own personal security and police for what is yet to come.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: StormonMormon on October 30, 2025, 12:53:10 PM
This is why I don't watch the news , growing up strict Mormon on the Island, the closest Mormon Temple was in Washington DC, we went to Washington DC every Summer to do baptisms for the dead haha
WTF haha I was a little boy telling my Father, Dad , I'm a dead man in the next life for converting someone to Mormon without their consent, at 10 years old , I had the fortitude to know not everyone wants to be Mormon.

Anyway.........haha
Washington DC is my favorite city in the world n seeing what is going on breaks my heart.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: prettyeasytoday on October 30, 2025, 02:30:40 PM
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/10/trump-officials-military-housing-stephen-miller/684748/

Trump officials are moving onto military bases. Yep, they’re for sure readying themselves to use the military as their own personal security and police for what is yet to come.

They are trying to establish the narrative that the left is violent and out of control, so much so that those officials need to take refuge with the military. They believe that doing this and then being able to say in 2028 that they had to do it three years ago helps achieve that goal. Where they live doesn't affect whether they can control the military.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Rusty Shackleford on October 30, 2025, 06:10:07 PM
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Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on October 30, 2025, 07:34:45 PM
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Doesn't matter. If Trump were to run again, MAGATs who disapprove of him would still vote for him.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on November 01, 2025, 02:19:06 PM
MAGATs in front of me at Vons (complete with a Charlie Kirk tee) just paid for their sodas, junk food, and meat with their SNAP card. They were short on funds.

Can’t make this up. Living with the reality of what they paid for.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on November 01, 2025, 02:37:44 PM
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Doesn't matter. If Trump were to run again, MAGATs who disapprove of him would still vote for him.


Plenty voted for him who weren’t maga.    Plenty just didn’t vote.   
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: noxiousPond on November 01, 2025, 05:37:34 PM
MAGATs in front of me at Vons (complete with a Charlie Kirk tee) just paid for their sodas, junk food, and meat with their SNAP card. They were short on funds.

Can’t make this up. Living with the reality of what they paid for.

I would’ve said something to him. I just wouldn’t be able to hold back. What a fucking idiot.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on November 01, 2025, 06:29:11 PM
Would anyone be interested if I started a thread that can be about politics that isn’t trump related?   Highlight rising progressive stars, etc
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Noble Experiment on November 01, 2025, 08:55:41 PM
MAGATs in front of me at Vons (complete with a Charlie Kirk tee) just paid for their sodas, junk food, and meat with their SNAP card. They were short on funds.

Can’t make this up. Living with the reality of what they paid for.

Pretty easy to shrug off the guilt of hypocrisy when you’re so used to shrugging off the guy you voted for being such a shitty president.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on November 01, 2025, 11:45:46 PM
Would anyone be interested if I started a thread that can be about politics that isn’t trump related?   Highlight rising progressive stars, etc

A good news thread would be fun. And it'd be a good collection of left wing wins.

Like, when someone says, Bernie would kill America blah blah blah, and be able to point to all the things he did as mayor that helped make Burlington the nicest upstate city.

Upstate/Western New York is so rough and struggling so hard, it is weird to see Burlington existing as a nice little city. Not quite as jarring as crossing from Plattsburgh to Montreal, but still quite jarring.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: propaganda on November 03, 2025, 07:10:32 AM
good news thread would be cool

Im not gonna lie im one of them both sides suck/are in kahoots ppl but im really starting to hate trump on a deep level. Idk if it’s even him maybe society, like this is your ideal leader?

Idk who am I to judge. America could be much worse. I fell out of paying attention to this stuff cause it’s too stressful but I realized I was getting dumb and maybe that’s what “they” want

One thing I really admire about Bernie is you can tell he real cares. I can’t think of one other politician I get that vibe from.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Big Skatefase on November 04, 2025, 07:14:19 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G49MYKiWEAAGiUR?format=jpg&name=medium)

 8)
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on November 04, 2025, 08:21:30 PM
Blue Wave baby.

NJ, VA governorships
Mamdani
Prop 50 in CA

Any other big races?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: EdLawndale on November 04, 2025, 08:30:31 PM
Is this the beginning of the tide turning and ppl waking up and speaking with their vote?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on November 04, 2025, 10:27:58 PM
Is this the beginning of the tide turning and ppl waking up and speaking with their vote?

I'm still worried and the math for the mid-terms is getting harder as Republicans are redistricting.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: ToySanta on November 04, 2025, 10:31:58 PM
Is this the beginning of the tide turning and ppl waking up and speaking with their vote?

Kinda sorta.. At this point democracy is won with every election. There’s lower voter turnout in odd-numbered years but I won’t presume that’s the case tonight. Look, we had the Blue Wave of 2018 and then what? Some people phoned it in as if that was all that was asked of us, say, until we needed to protest a nazi and an impeached, felonious buffoon of a second-term president.

There are great, positive wins every election, as there are tonight, but the work never stops and never ends, and it’s more than casting a vote. And there are still plenty of democrats in charge or in the party that need to be shown the door.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on November 04, 2025, 10:55:59 PM
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Kinda sorta.. At this point democracy is won with every election. There’s lower voter turnout in odd-numbered years but I won’t presume that’s the case tonight. Look, we had the Blue Wave of 2018 and then what? Some people phoned it in as if that was all that was asked of us, say, until we needed to protest a nazi and an impeached, felonious buffoon of a second-term president.

There are great, positive wins every election, as there are tonight, but the work never stops and never ends, and it’s more than casting a vote. And there are still plenty of democrats in charge or in the party that need to be shown the door.

Well blue wave of 18 led to Biden win of 2020, but I understand your point


DNC can no longer afford to run on maintaining norms if people don’t think the norms work.   Morons like Schumer think all they need to do is be the sensible vote while still ignorin the 2024 was less about trump for most and more trying an answer that was different and these two idiots leading our party cannot understand th fundamental reason Zohran won was by addressing specifically those issues while educating voters and at the same time treating them as adults
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: prettyeasytoday on November 05, 2025, 07:24:07 AM
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Is this the beginning of the tide turning and ppl waking up and speaking with their vote?
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Kinda sorta.. At this point democracy is won with every election. There’s lower voter turnout in odd-numbered years but I won’t presume that’s the case tonight. Look, we had the Blue Wave of 2018 and then what? Some people phoned it in as if that was all that was asked of us, say, until we needed to protest a nazi and an impeached, felonious buffoon of a second-term president.

There are great, positive wins every election, as there are tonight, but the work never stops and never ends, and it’s more than casting a vote. And there are still plenty of democrats in charge or in the party that need to be shown the door.
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Well blue wave of 18 led to Biden win of 2020, but I understand your point


DNC can no longer afford to run on maintaining norms if people don’t think the norms work.   Morons like Schumer think all they need to do is be the sensible vote while still ignorin the 2024 was less about trump for most and more trying an answer that was different and these two idiots leading our party cannot understand th fundamental reason Zohran won was by addressing specifically those issues while educating voters and at the same time treating them as adults

Biden win in 2020 led to favorable midterm results in 2022. Issue in 2024 was that we had a bad candidate
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on November 05, 2025, 10:44:22 AM
Is this the beginning of the tide turning and ppl waking up and speaking with their vote?

For now.

We're just in the FO part of the FAFO cycle. Then people will get complacent again. Expect more from Dems. Then sit out the next election because even though Dems will do damage control and make things better, they'll be condemned for not fixing everything right away. Then GOP will take over again, screw everyone over, and make lives worse. Then people will finally vote again after FOing.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: prettyeasytoday on November 05, 2025, 06:10:45 PM
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For now.

We're just in the FO part of the FAFO cycle. Then people will get complacent again. Expect more from Dems. Then sit out the next election because even though Dems will do damage control and make things better, they'll be condemned for not fixing everything right away. Then GOP will take over again, screw everyone over, and make lives worse. Then people will finally vote again after FOing.

progressives need to learn how to celebrate wins and stop lamenting things that arent accomplished yet and/or tormenting themselves with paranoid visions of a hopeless future.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: midnitecruiser on November 05, 2025, 06:38:58 PM
last night felt great. best day since September 10th, lol. hyped to see that Wenning voted for the new NJ skater mayor. I haven't missed nyc as much as i thought i might since moving two years ago, but i would have had a good time there last night. I joined the DSA today. Anyone else a member?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: GardenSkater77 on November 06, 2025, 08:22:49 PM
Pretty much says it all…

(https://s.abcnews.com/images/US/donald-trump-15-gty-gmh-251106_1762460792432_hpMain_16x9_992.jpg)
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Rusty Shackleford on November 07, 2025, 09:44:54 AM
GOP: Hey, no fair! The democrats shared an out of context photo to suggest that the President who tore down the east wing of the White House to build a golden ballroom during a month long government shutdown doesn't care about anyone but himself!
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: EdLawndale on November 07, 2025, 10:24:16 AM
What is that guy doing with his legs?

https://youtu.be/m-HmvPr7mG0
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on November 07, 2025, 10:48:21 AM
What is that guy doing with his legs?

https://youtu.be/m-HmvPr7mG0

This is the doctor holding his legs wide open:
(https://i.postimg.cc/qMDh3ML0/IMG-3938.jpg)
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Enrico Pallazzo on November 07, 2025, 02:23:25 PM
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What is that guy doing with his legs?

https://youtu.be/m-HmvPr7mG0
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This is the doctor holding his legs wide open:
(https://i.postimg.cc/qMDh3ML0/IMG-3938.jpg)

I think at this point I'd rather be provided with medical care by Dr Sins than Dr Oz.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on November 07, 2025, 09:30:57 PM
SCOTUS just overturned the order that forced Trump to distribute SNAP benefits.

I hope every foodbank asks people who they voted for and directs Trump voters to the dumpsters.

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: brycickle on November 07, 2025, 11:39:24 PM
What is that guy doing with his legs?

https://youtu.be/m-HmvPr7mG0
Trendelenburg.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: EdLawndale on November 08, 2025, 02:57:36 PM
How much does it cost to feed a family of 4 or 5 these days if you dine out? I go out with just my gf and it is about $70-$80. You heads of big households must be feeling it...
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: prettyeasytoday on November 08, 2025, 04:58:21 PM
SCOTUS just overturned the order that forced Trump to distribute SNAP benefits.

I hope every foodbank asks people who they voted for and directs Trump voters to the dumpsters.

Order to overturn was written by Justice Jackson
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on November 08, 2025, 08:19:51 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/14htZ18F/IMG-6151.png) (https://postimg.cc/kRs9xZFM)
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Rusty Shackleford on November 09, 2025, 03:49:43 PM
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS4-v2zpQs9SRpugKF83IYyWcxTpXuOj4SZ0wTCanZ07Ua2qpfdMv2piL0&s=10)

I, THEN STATE YOUR NAME...
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: munchbox on November 09, 2025, 05:14:22 PM
nfl runs “recruitment” commercials
no surprise here
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on November 09, 2025, 06:17:13 PM
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS4-v2zpQs9SRpugKF83IYyWcxTpXuOj4SZ0wTCanZ07Ua2qpfdMv2piL0&s=10)

I, THEN STATE YOUR NAME...

Convicted Criminal and Rapist Arena does have a ring to it
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Hefe43 on November 10, 2025, 02:11:51 AM
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I, THEN STATE YOUR NAME...
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Convicted Criminal and Rapist Arena does have a ring to it
Pedolands
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: mdspb on November 10, 2025, 12:49:54 PM
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What is that guy doing with his legs?

https://youtu.be/m-HmvPr7mG0
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This is the doctor holding his legs wide open:
(https://i.postimg.cc/qMDh3ML0/IMG-3938.jpg)
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Dr Bald Penny is not who I’d want assisting me.

I think at this point I'd rather be provided with medical care by Dr Sins than Dr Oz.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Untamed on November 13, 2025, 08:39:57 AM
Hemp bans a bunch of bullshit. Anybody else use alt noids? I like hhc sometimes when I don't wanna get super high
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on November 13, 2025, 09:56:02 AM
Hemp bans a bunch of bullshit. Anybody else use alt noids? I like hhc sometimes when I don't wanna get super high

Of course Mitch McConnell and the pedo protectors would sneak clauses into the bill.

That and the fact that GOP members can sue Jack Smith for being under investigation pertaining to J6. Fucking madness.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on November 13, 2025, 02:00:03 PM
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Hemp bans a bunch of bullshit. Anybody else use alt noids? I like hhc sometimes when I don't wanna get super high
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Of course Mitch McConnell and the pedo protectors would sneak clauses into the bill.

That and the fact that GOP members can sue Jack Smith for being under investigation pertaining to J6. Fucking madness.

I feel like I'm being held hostage. The only group that can save me from the horrible present and future Trump is making for America, seems unwilling to do the work to save me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFI6MwlLJ08
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on November 13, 2025, 07:12:04 PM
Really wild watching MAGATs online defend their logic of how a 34x convicted felon/rapist/pedophile was the morally right choice over a black woman who had a loud laugh.

Also, Megyn Kelly trying to downplay pedophile by saying, "15 isn't as bad as an 8 year old" is a crazy hill to die on. Especially seeing she's the mother of a 14 year old.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Painted Baby on November 13, 2025, 07:51:37 PM
Really wild watching MAGATs online defend their logic of how a 34x convicted felon/rapist/pedophile was the morally right choice over a black woman who had a loud laugh.

Also, Megyn Kelly trying to downplay pedophile by saying, "15 isn't as bad as an 8 year old" is a crazy hill to die on. Especially seeing she's the mother of a 14 year old.
The best part of seeing that Megan Kelly clip was knowing that it is a typical incel creep talking point going back at least 15 years. Everything's computer all right and the homepage is a chan site. Also hilariously she's the only reporter that has thrown any kind of heaters at Trump this whole term.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on November 14, 2025, 09:02:01 AM
Trump is now demanding the DOJ investigate Clinton and every Democrat on the Epstein list.

Yes, bust everyone on that list. But we all know it’s performative just to draw attention away from the fact that he gave Clinton a Lewinsky.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: h00man on November 14, 2025, 10:34:40 AM
Trump sucked Bill Clinton's dick. Thats it. We got it
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: brycickle on November 14, 2025, 01:55:31 PM
Don't forget about the cigar.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: EdLawndale on November 14, 2025, 02:29:58 PM
Trump's DOJ gonna be spread thin and taking a lotta Ls with these wild goose chases he is sending them on.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mongo Lloyd on November 14, 2025, 03:35:03 PM
Trump sucked Bill Clinton's dick. Thats it. We got it
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on November 14, 2025, 05:08:16 PM
Absolutely bust all the pedos on the list. Starting with tRumps child molesting ass.
So, with tRumps record of not using union labor and stiffing anyone that has done construction for him or his businesses, anyone think he’s using union workers OR going to actually pay the dumb shits that took on a construction to build his ballroom?

‘This time he’ll pay us’ yeah, fucking right! 🥴
Should we start a poll on this?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on November 14, 2025, 07:16:58 PM
X-posting because real time consequences are being felt:

Finished open enrollment.

Got the same coverage for me and my family which we had previously. Costs went up $508/mo.

Fucking A.

Staying alive is expensive.

Seriously, an extra $6,000 a year for health insurance thanks to the Big Beautiful Bill.

So, again, to those who voted for Trump or sat out this election, I hope karma focuses your board every time you go for a skate session.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Rusty Shackleford on November 14, 2025, 10:19:21 PM
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRXlKFzSmIjbLQ8xca2szZVpDdPqY2O2uRe4aJZReabPw&s=10)
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Painted Baby on November 15, 2025, 02:08:29 PM
Absolutely bust all the pedos on the list. Starting with tRumps child molesting ass.
So, with tRumps record of not using union labor and stiffing anyone that has done construction for him or his businesses, anyone think he’s using union workers OR going to actually pay the dumb shits that took on a construction to build his ballroom?

‘This time he’ll pay us’ yeah, fucking right! 🥴
Should we start a poll on this?
The scorpion and the frog may as well be on actual MAGA merch.

I'm gonna go one better and assert that the ballroom is just like the border wall was in the last term. A grift that will drag on and never be completed. The East Wing will be the next guy's problem to fix but hey somebody got some fat donos from all of the usual suspects.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on November 15, 2025, 02:46:53 PM
You’re probably correct.
Ran across the ven diagram for the ‘Golden Dome’ incident today:
(https://i.postimg.cc/wxZwCLV6/IMG-6174.png) (https://postimg.cc/3WjjpyV6)
Now I know why he’s on the defensive about giving that golden dome to Bubba Clinton. Name checks out.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on November 15, 2025, 11:40:54 PM
This is way too good to be true, but if it was, what a line for the history books. President taken down because he had gone down on a former president.

(https://i.ibb.co/B2j9r1X9/Screenshot-2025-11-16-at-12-39-21-AM.png)
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: MikeCyclopsfromNASA on November 17, 2025, 01:53:16 AM
What if Bubba is actually a slap pal and not Bill Clinton or a horse?

(https://i.ibb.co/yqgHGp1/Screenshot-20211030-155853-Instagram.jpg)
He didn't appreciate being called a doodoo head surf nazi in the comments of that bones post lol
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: h00man on November 17, 2025, 10:41:22 AM
I believe it.

Or maybe Bill Clinton on SLAP?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Shitbag on November 19, 2025, 08:50:41 AM
HOLY SHIT THEY VOTED TO RELEASE THE EPSTEIN FILES!!
I bet they won’t be completely altered in any way shape or fashion, and absolutely shown to the public in their original unedited purely unredacted form!
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on November 19, 2025, 09:23:45 AM
HOLY SHIT THEY VOTED TO RELEASE THE EPSTEIN FILES!!
I bet they won’t be completely altered in any way shape or fashion, and absolutely shown to the public in their original unedited purely unredacted form!

FBI was already found to have put agents on the case to redact Trump's name.

This is the Epstein file we're going to get:

Bill Clinton Hillary Clinton George Soros [redacted] Bill Clinton Hillary Clinton George Soros [redacted] Bill Clinton Hillary Clinton George Soros [redacted] Bill Clinton Hillary Clinton George Soros [redacted] Bill Clinton Hillary Clinton George Soros [redacted] Bill Clinton Hillary Clinton George Soros [redacted] Bill Clinton Hillary Clinton George Soros [redacted] Bill Clinton Hillary Clinton George Soros [redacted] Bill Clinton Hillary Clinton George Soros [redacted] Bill Clinton Hillary Clinton George Soros [redacted] Bill Clinton Hillary Clinton George Soros [redacted] Bill Clinton Hillary Clinton George Soros [redacted]
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Bupstop on November 19, 2025, 09:28:01 AM
So they went from having the files on their desk to the files don’t exist and it’s a hoax to releasing them? And they wonder why people have no faith in our system anymore.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on November 19, 2025, 09:35:53 AM
So they went from having the files on their desk to the files don’t exist and it’s a hoax to releasing them? And they wonder why people have no faith in our system anymore.

Normal brain-functioning people have no faith in the system.

MAGA morons believe every lie and pivot that FOX News feeds them. 
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Shitbag on November 19, 2025, 11:15:00 AM
Oh I’m sure it’s all Democrats only in the Epstein files, it’s entirely Bill Clinton and them!
That’s why Trump held on to the files for so long, I mean he had them all nailed, busted cold but he needed to wait for SOMETHING until he could release them, what could that have been?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on November 19, 2025, 11:45:16 AM
Just dropped: DOJ revealed the Grand Jury never saw the full Comey indictment. They rejected the original one and instead of being given a new one, the foreperson was just given an amended one to sign.

That's not a procedural error, that's gross incompetence. Especially for a (interim) US Attorney.

This only further proves that Trumps DOJ is strictly a retribution machine that cares nothing for law and order.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on November 19, 2025, 02:14:47 PM
Just dropped: DOJ revealed the Grand Jury never saw the full Comey indictment. They rejected the original one and instead of being given a new one, the foreperson was just given an amended one to sign.

That's not a procedural error, that's gross incompetence. Especially for a (interim) US Attorney.

This only further proves that Trumps DOJ is strictly a retribution machine that cares nothing for law and order.


Remember the lawyer in charge has never tried a criminal case.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on November 19, 2025, 02:29:42 PM
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Just dropped: DOJ revealed the Grand Jury never saw the full Comey indictment. They rejected the original one and instead of being given a new one, the foreperson was just given an amended one to sign.

That's not a procedural error, that's gross incompetence. Especially for a (interim) US Attorney.

This only further proves that Trumps DOJ is strictly a retribution machine that cares nothing for law and order.
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Remember the lawyer in charge has never tried a criminal case.

Just like the SCOTUS he sat, Amy Cohen Barrett, never tried a case to verdict.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on November 20, 2025, 08:49:48 PM
Remember when Trump and the MAGA cried for civility and for the left to stop their violent rhetoric when they simply didn’t praise Charlie Kirk after his death?

Well neither do they.

Trump is doing well to threaten veteran Democrats with death simply for the fact they they put out a PSA saying that military has the duty to ignore “ILLEGAL ORDERS.”

Trump, his admin, and FOX are already spinning it as them being seditious by telling military to ignore the president’s orders (those words were never used in the PSA). So now, those Dems are receiving death threats galore.

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: white monster on December 18, 2025, 04:03:51 PM
Weed saves lives  8)
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on December 18, 2025, 06:10:28 PM
Weed saves lives  8)

He wants people to to stop paying attention
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: GardenSkater77 on December 24, 2025, 01:02:22 PM
60 minutes CECOT episode banned in the US

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DSlnM-VjD4e/
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: augustmoon on December 26, 2025, 05:52:50 PM
Predictions:

Russia is about to go for all of Europe, and we’re going to try to take all for the Americas (and Greenland). Russia and America are in collusion.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: EdLawndale on December 26, 2025, 06:31:23 PM
Is that how this happens, where you just find yourself living in one of the axis of evil countries?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Chalupa on December 27, 2025, 05:10:41 AM
Is that how this happens, where you just find yourself living in one of the axis of evil countries?
America has always been the leader of the Axis of Evil. It’s built on the rape and killing of civilians in other countries for resources so the rich can get richer. Politicians will tell any amount of lies to justify going to war.

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRMjpeb2DWIsAcYkWlmAh0zvcLiF8Hf0NVxozakymzLUw&s=10)
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: JANUS on December 27, 2025, 07:42:24 AM
Predictions:

Russia is about to go for all of Europe, and we’re going to try to take all for the Americas (and Greenland). Russia and America are in collusion.

In the words of the warrior poet Project Pat: if you hail not from my hood, begone.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: ToySanta on December 27, 2025, 05:52:22 PM
60 minutes CECOT episode banned in the US

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DSlnM-VjD4e/

Thanks for sharing. ‘Tis a good watch. Not surprised about Noem’s photo-op placement. I think the grossest thing is the influencers bringing the same energy touring the prison to like a backyard barbecue. Yeesh.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: GardenSkater77 on January 02, 2026, 11:32:11 PM
US is at war with Venezuela without Congress voting on the war. This is fucking crazy.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: AnimalChinaski79 on January 03, 2026, 03:57:29 AM
US is at war with Venezuela without Congress voting on the war. This is fucking crazy.

Send the MAGATS to go fight for their pedo cult leader.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: prettyeasytoday on January 03, 2026, 07:42:33 AM
The intention is to have these conflicts still happening in November of 2026 (and November of 2028). He's on the record saying they will postpone/cancel elections during wars.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on January 03, 2026, 07:45:17 AM
The intention is to have these conflicts still happening in November of 2026 (and November of 2028). He's on the record saying they will postpone/cancel elections during wars.

And they’ll 100% blame this war on Biden in the process.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mongo Lloyd on January 03, 2026, 11:52:42 AM
Where are all the dense idiots from the election thread that proclaimed “nothing is gonna change”? That we were all worrying too much and suffering from tds? The same people who likely referred to their guy as the “no new wars” President?

Where’d you all scurry off to?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on January 03, 2026, 12:07:49 PM
Pretty good take on Venezuela events and future predictions:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wu9QSeAI22I
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: AnimalChinaski79 on January 03, 2026, 01:19:35 PM
Where are all the dense idiots from the election thread that proclaimed “nothing is gonna change”? That we were all worrying too much and suffering from tds? The same people who likely referred to their guy as the “no new wars” President?

Where’d you all scurry off to?

They're hiding with the Q Anon weirdos having a hard time believing their orange cult leader was a massive pedophile.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Jamie Fortuneteller on January 03, 2026, 02:06:36 PM
Where are all the dense idiots from the election thread that proclaimed “nothing is gonna change”? That we were all worrying too much and suffering from tds? The same people who likely referred to their guy as the “no new wars” President?

Where’d you all scurry off to?
I think they got banned. Isn't that what happened to sneaky secrets?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Sedition on January 03, 2026, 03:51:33 PM
Pretty good take on Venezuela events and future predictions:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wu9QSeAI22I

Great clip. She’s a local girl (e.g. we both in Boston), and a smart one at that.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Chalupa on January 04, 2026, 02:41:46 AM
US is at war with Venezuela without Congress voting on the war. This is fucking crazy.
Unfortunately, a US president can attack countries as long as they inform congress within 48 hours, but has to withdraw within 60 days, unless congress approves. It’s part of the War Powers Resolution passed during Nixon’s presidency.

I definitely don’t back it because this is an obvious attempt to steal resources for American companies. Fentanyl isn’t produced in Venezuela, especially on a large scale. Pharmaceutical companies get no blame and T has no problem pardoning drug traffickers as long as they bribe him, so the whole war on drugs aspect is bullshit. Republicans just like killing people to flex power because they think being a man is about making people submit to them.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Democratic Republic Of Mongo on January 04, 2026, 05:52:55 AM
Where are all the dense idiots from the election thread that proclaimed “nothing is gonna change”? That we were all worrying too much and suffering from tds? The same people who likely referred to their guy as the “no new wars” President?

Where’d you all scurry off to?

You mean why isn’t everyone throwing a hissy fit about a “war” with no American losses that ended before you woke up this morning? Ask a Venezuelan.

https://x.com/FranciscoPoleoR/status/2007629162513854895

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mongo Lloyd on January 04, 2026, 06:44:06 AM
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Where are all the dense idiots from the election thread that proclaimed “nothing is gonna change”? That we were all worrying too much and suffering from tds? The same people who likely referred to their guy as the “no new wars” President?

Where’d you all scurry off to?
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You mean why isn’t everyone throwing a hissy fit about a “war” with no American losses that ended before you woke up this morning? Ask a Venezuelan.

https://x.com/FranciscoPoleoR/status/2007629162513854895

I knew you were going to be one of the defenders here.

The kidnap of a world leader is not a positive action under any spin. It’s an example of imperialist arrogance and hubris, and a neon sign example for China’s ambitions regarding Taiwan.

Surely you can’t be this dense?

All of this aside, you’re constantly defending an administration run by a thieving nepo-baby pedophile.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on January 04, 2026, 07:53:56 AM
Let’s not forget all this is happening when the DOJ is supposed to report to congress their reasons for all the redactions concerning the Epstein Files.

IT’S A DISTRACTION.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: GardenSkater77 on January 04, 2026, 08:12:10 AM
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Where are all the dense idiots from the election thread that proclaimed “nothing is gonna change”? That we were all worrying too much and suffering from tds? The same people who likely referred to their guy as the “no new wars” President?

Where’d you all scurry off to?
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You mean why isn’t everyone throwing a hissy fit about a “war” with no American losses that ended before you woke up this morning? Ask a Venezuelan.

https://x.com/FranciscoPoleoR/status/2007629162513854895

I would expect someone from the Democratic Republic of Mongo to have a more nuanced opinion. What if the Sovereign Sect invaded your country?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: realtalk66 on January 04, 2026, 08:29:26 AM
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Where are all the dense idiots from the election thread that proclaimed “nothing is gonna change”? That we were all worrying too much and suffering from tds? The same people who likely referred to their guy as the “no new wars” President?

Where’d you all scurry off to?
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You mean why isn’t everyone throwing a hissy fit about a “war” with no American losses that ended before you woke up this morning? Ask a Venezuelan.

https://x.com/FranciscoPoleoR/status/2007629162513854895

40 venezuelan casualties, many civilians but who cares right? the rich gusanos in miami are happy, hooray! why dont you look at how ACTUAL venezuelans in venezuela are reacting to this? fucking moron

Let’s not forget all this is happening when the DOJ is supposed to report to congress their reasons for all the redactions concerning the Epstein Files.

IT’S A DISTRACTION.

this has nothing to do with epstein, its about oil, US business interests, imperialism and taking down socialism/communism and reducing/profiting off of oil supplies to cuba/iran/china. look at the infograph a few posts above, thats only since ww2, we've been doing this shit for way longer than that.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Democratic Republic Of Mongo on January 04, 2026, 08:33:17 AM
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Where are all the dense idiots from the election thread that proclaimed “nothing is gonna change”? That we were all worrying too much and suffering from tds? The same people who likely referred to their guy as the “no new wars” President?

Where’d you all scurry off to?
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You mean why isn’t everyone throwing a hissy fit about a “war” with no American losses that ended before you woke up this morning? Ask a Venezuelan.

https://x.com/FranciscoPoleoR/status/2007629162513854895
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I knew you were going to be one of the defenders here.

The kidnap of a world leader is not a positive action under any spin. It’s an example of imperialist arrogance and hubris, and a neon sign example for China’s ambitions regarding Taiwan.

Surely you can’t be this dense?

All of this aside, you’re constantly defending an administration run by a thieving nepo-baby pedophile.

TL/DR:

The oil is years away from being useful.

Trump talks about oil because voters understand oil and the narrative has been established since Iraq. The Pentagon planned this operation around breaking Chinese resource control, eliminating Iranian manufacturing capability, and expelling Russian military presence because generals understand strategic vulnerabilities in contemporary threat environments where China, Iran, and Russia operate as coordinated adversaries. The oil narrative is theater.

https://renegaderesources.pro/p/the-venezuelan-oil-narative-is-pure

Argue with the source if you need to.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mongo Lloyd on January 04, 2026, 08:37:37 AM
Ok, so conspiracy kookery is your underlying narrative. Got it, I’ll be ignoring you in the future since you don’t live in any semblance of reality.

Your guy is a pedophile.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on January 04, 2026, 08:38:44 AM

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Let’s not forget all this is happening when the DOJ is supposed to report to congress their reasons for all the redactions concerning the Epstein Files.

IT’S A DISTRACTION.
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this has nothing to do with epstein, its about oil, US business interests, imperialism and taking down socialism/communism and reducing/profiting off of oil supplies to cuba/iran/china. look at the infograph a few posts above, thats only since ww2, we've been doing this shit for way longer than that.

Two things can be true at the same time.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: realtalk66 on January 04, 2026, 08:39:13 AM
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Where are all the dense idiots from the election thread that proclaimed “nothing is gonna change”? That we were all worrying too much and suffering from tds? The same people who likely referred to their guy as the “no new wars” President?

Where’d you all scurry off to?
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You mean why isn’t everyone throwing a hissy fit about a “war” with no American losses that ended before you woke up this morning? Ask a Venezuelan.

https://x.com/FranciscoPoleoR/status/2007629162513854895
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I knew you were going to be one of the defenders here.

The kidnap of a world leader is not a positive action under any spin. It’s an example of imperialist arrogance and hubris, and a neon sign example for China’s ambitions regarding Taiwan.

Surely you can’t be this dense?

All of this aside, you’re constantly defending an administration run by a thieving nepo-baby pedophile.
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TL/DR:

The oil is years away from being useful.

Trump talks about oil because voters understand oil and the narrative has been established since Iraq. The Pentagon planned this operation around breaking Chinese resource control, eliminating Iranian manufacturing capability, and expelling Russian military presence because generals understand strategic vulnerabilities in contemporary threat environments where China, Iran, and Russia operate as coordinated adversaries. The oil narrative is theater.

https://renegaderesources.pro/p/the-venezuelan-oil-narative-is-pure

Argue with the source if you need to.

dawg just say you love american imperialism/colonialism and go away
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: realtalk66 on January 04, 2026, 08:41:25 AM
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Let’s not forget all this is happening when the DOJ is supposed to report to congress their reasons for all the redactions concerning the Epstein Files.

IT’S A DISTRACTION.
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this has nothing to do with epstein, its about oil, US business interests, imperialism and taking down socialism/communism and reducing/profiting off of oil supplies to cuba/iran/china. look at the infograph a few posts above, thats only since ww2, we've been doing this shit for way longer than that.
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Two things can be true at the same time.

you people who are making everything about epstein are really undermining everything evil about this country.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mongo Lloyd on January 04, 2026, 08:45:50 AM
I don’t think it’s everyone trying to make everything about Epstein, and I don’t believe as much in the “distraction” theory. I think this administration is just consistently bad actors, and the flood of information is an organic side effect to the amount of fuckery happening.

I do think it’s important to keep the Epstein files fresh on everyone’s minds amid the fuckery.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on January 04, 2026, 09:13:11 AM
I don’t think it’s everyone trying to make everything about Epstein, and I don’t believe as much in the “distraction” theory. I think this administration is just consistently bad actors, and the flood of information is an organic side effect to the amount of fuckery happening.

I do think it’s important to keep the Epstein files fresh on everyone’s minds amid the fuckery.


Def not a Wag the Dog situation.   Trump’s been talking about re-opening the American Empire since day 1 with Greenland and Panama and gave a heads up to Colombia and Cuba to watch themselves in his press conference.   
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mongo Lloyd on January 04, 2026, 10:07:52 AM
“It’s not about Oil!!!” Despite the President explicitly mentioning oil.

As if the narrative about it not being about oil somehow makes the fact of US influence and dominance of the western hemisphere mentioned in project 2025 okay.

You’ve had the president mention both oil and “hemisphere”. Neither paint a positive or justifiable picture.

Also, we now have a dictator for a leader. Do those of you whom defend these actions believe it is ok if another country did the same on our soil?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: companguero on January 04, 2026, 11:45:15 AM
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40 venezuelan casualties, many civilians but who cares right? the rich gusanos in miami are happy, hooray! why dont you look at how ACTUAL venezuelans in venezuela are reacting to this? fucking moron
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Just curious, when I looked up gusanos it was described as an insult used by Fidel and loyalists to denigrate the privileged who fled Cuba.

I can't tell if you support Maduro or not.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on January 04, 2026, 12:32:48 PM
“It’s not about Oil!!!” Despite the President explicitly mentioning oil.

As if the narrative about it not being about oil somehow makes the fact of US influence and dominance of the western hemisphere mentioned in project 2025 okay.

You’ve had the president mention both oil and “hemisphere”. Neither paint a positive or justifiable picture.

Also, we now have a dictator for a leader. Do those of you whom defend these actions believe it is ok if another country did the same on our soil?

Don’t forget the Greenland narrative is about its rare Earth minerals.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mongo Lloyd on January 04, 2026, 01:04:59 PM
There’s a lot of hands in this cookie jar, or up the emperor puppet’s backside.

I’m hoping Father Time wins the battle before ambitions become too broadened.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on January 04, 2026, 02:47:55 PM
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“It’s not about Oil!!!” Despite the President explicitly mentioning oil.

As if the narrative about it not being about oil somehow makes the fact of US influence and dominance of the western hemisphere mentioned in project 2025 okay.

You’ve had the president mention both oil and “hemisphere”. Neither paint a positive or justifiable picture.

Also, we now have a dictator for a leader. Do those of you whom defend these actions believe it is ok if another country did the same on our soil?
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Don’t forget the Greenland narrative is about its rare Earth minerals.

Isn’t the issue w/ Rare earth minerals not that we lack them, but we lack capabilities to process them?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: realtalk66 on January 04, 2026, 03:49:05 PM
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40 venezuelan casualties, many civilians but who cares right? the rich gusanos in miami are happy, hooray! why dont you look at how ACTUAL venezuelans in venezuela are reacting to this? fucking moron
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Just curious, when I looked up gusanos it was described as an insult used by Fidel and loyalists to denigrate the privileged who fled Cuba.

I can't tell if you support Maduro or not.

It should be pretty obvious but honestly Im a white guy in the north east of the US and know hardly any spanish so I dont think it really matters if I say I "support" Maduro or not. Im anti-colonialist, anti-imperialist, anti-capitalist and especially anti-united states. One easy thing to look at is that Maduro held weapons/combat training sessions for civilians to protect themselves should the United States invade and I dont think thats something that a supposed evil dictator or even a remotely unpopular leader would do. All these people who claim Maduro is a evil guy starving his people or that Cuba is a failed state or that North Korea is just that way because uhhh "they're bad" or whatever don't know shit about the sanctions, embargoes, CIA bull shit and other fuckery the US does to handicap and take down socialist/communist countries. The videos Im seeing out of venezuela suggest that a good amount of people there really like him. But even if he is a "bad guy" whoever the US installs is going to be exponentially worse as is historically the case.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Chavo on January 05, 2026, 12:09:10 AM
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Where are all the dense idiots from the election thread that proclaimed “nothing is gonna change”? That we were all worrying too much and suffering from tds? The same people who likely referred to their guy as the “no new wars” President?

Where’d you all scurry off to?
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You mean why isn’t everyone throwing a hissy fit about a “war” with no American losses that ended before you woke up this morning? Ask a Venezuelan.

https://x.com/FranciscoPoleoR/status/2007629162513854895
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I knew you were going to be one of the defenders here.

The kidnap of a world leader is not a positive action under any spin. It’s an example of imperialist arrogance and hubris, and a neon sign example for China’s ambitions regarding Taiwan.

Surely you can’t be this dense?

All of this aside, you’re constantly defending an administration run by a thieving nepo-baby pedophile.
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TL/DR:

The oil is years away from being useful.

Trump talks about oil because voters understand oil and the narrative has been established since Iraq. The Pentagon planned this operation around breaking Chinese resource control, eliminating Iranian manufacturing capability, and expelling Russian military presence because generals understand strategic vulnerabilities in contemporary threat environments where China, Iran, and Russia operate as coordinated adversaries. The oil narrative is theater.

https://renegaderesources.pro/p/the-venezuelan-oil-narative-is-pure

Argue with the source if you need to.

Venezuela also has the largest oil reserves in the world. It's already pulled out of the ground and ready for use with out gulf coast refineries, which were designed specifically for their sour crude.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Billy Bitchcakes on January 05, 2026, 07:26:52 AM
https://www.reddit.com/r/GreenAndPleasant/comments/1p1457s/former_cia_officer_philip_agee_explains_why_the
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: S. on January 05, 2026, 08:32:46 AM
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Where are all the dense idiots from the election thread that proclaimed “nothing is gonna change”? That we were all worrying too much and suffering from tds? The same people who likely referred to their guy as the “no new wars” President?

Where’d you all scurry off to?
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You mean why isn’t everyone throwing a hissy fit about a “war” with no American losses that ended before you woke up this morning? Ask a Venezuelan.

https://x.com/FranciscoPoleoR/status/2007629162513854895
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I knew you were going to be one of the defenders here.

The kidnap of a world leader is not a positive action under any spin. It’s an example of imperialist arrogance and hubris, and a neon sign example for China’s ambitions regarding Taiwan.

Surely you can’t be this dense?

All of this aside, you’re constantly defending an administration run by a thieving nepo-baby pedophile.
[close]

TL/DR:

The oil is years away from being useful.

Trump talks about oil because voters understand oil and the narrative has been established since Iraq. The Pentagon planned this operation around breaking Chinese resource control, eliminating Iranian manufacturing capability, and expelling Russian military presence because generals understand strategic vulnerabilities in contemporary threat environments where China, Iran, and Russia operate as coordinated adversaries. The oil narrative is theater.

https://renegaderesources.pro/p/the-venezuelan-oil-narative-is-pure

Argue with the source if you need to.
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Venezuela also has the largest oil reserves in the world. It's already pulled out of the ground and ready for use with out gulf coast refineries, which were designed specifically for their sour crude.


My dude, that’s not a news site and the article is not journalism. The author also does not have anything to backup her central claim that Trump attacked for rare earths and not oil.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: GardenSkater77 on January 07, 2026, 09:37:07 AM
Ice agent shoots and kills protester.

https://www.kare11.com/article/news/local/witness-reports-someone-shot-by-ice-agent-in-minneapolis/89-fa99e38b-432e-4918-99a6-421c471f4351

Just saw the video. The woman was doing a k turn to leave an intersection and the Ice agent shot 3 rounds at her head. It was murder. Sickening that this goon will be protected.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on January 07, 2026, 11:32:54 AM
Ice agent shoots and kills protester.

https://www.kare11.com/article/news/local/witness-reports-someone-shot-by-ice-agent-in-minneapolis/89-fa99e38b-432e-4918-99a6-421c471f4351

Just saw the video. The woman was doing a k turn to leave an intersection and the Ice agent shot 3 rounds at her head. It was murder. Sickening that this goon will be protected.

Sadly, the only consequence from this will be DHS going after her family and deporting them all (regardless of being citizens) while labeling them all as radical ANTIFA members.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Chalupa on January 07, 2026, 12:28:48 PM
Law enforcement has a lot pf people that are fucked in the head who only joined so they can murder people without any repercussions. “Fearing for your life” is sadly all that it takes to get away with murder for law enforcement and military.

Fuck ICE, DHS, and the federal government.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on January 07, 2026, 01:03:47 PM
It’s why for ICE and law enforcement agencies in the country, test, education, and physical fitness standards have been lowered.

They don’t want qualified people in these positions. They want loyal people.

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Cuban_Lynx on January 07, 2026, 02:50:19 PM
ICE is saying she swerved towards him, but it’s incredibly obvious from each angles she is trying to swerve away from him and he’s trying to get in her way. He then proceeds to shoot her six times in the face for not following his orders.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Big Skatefase on January 07, 2026, 04:01:39 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/Conservative/comments/1q6n33l/ice_agent_shoots_kills_woman_in_minneapolis/?share_id=j9_EC2Bdjr2bUs_9hkRFa&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_source=share&utm_term=1

Of course conservatives are calling it a lawful shoot.

Then again these are the same people that try to justify why its ok for elementary schools to be shot up, while still to this day saying Ashli Babbitt didn't deserve to get killed and the officer that shot her should be locked up.

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: fergus on January 07, 2026, 04:20:06 PM
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Where are all the dense idiots from the election thread that proclaimed “nothing is gonna change”? That we were all worrying too much and suffering from tds? The same people who likely referred to their guy as the “no new wars” President?

Where’d you all scurry off to?
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You mean why isn’t everyone throwing a hissy fit about a “war” with no American losses that ended before you woke up this morning? Ask a Venezuelan.

https://x.com/FranciscoPoleoR/status/2007629162513854895
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I knew you were going to be one of the defenders here.

The kidnap of a world leader is not a positive action under any spin. It’s an example of imperialist arrogance and hubris, and a neon sign example for China’s ambitions regarding Taiwan.

Surely you can’t be this dense?

All of this aside, you’re constantly defending an administration run by a thieving nepo-baby pedophile.
[close]

TL/DR:

The oil is years away from being useful.

Trump talks about oil because voters understand oil and the narrative has been established since Iraq. The Pentagon planned this operation around breaking Chinese resource control, eliminating Iranian manufacturing capability, and expelling Russian military presence because generals understand strategic vulnerabilities in contemporary threat environments where China, Iran, and Russia operate as coordinated adversaries. The oil narrative is theater.

https://renegaderesources.pro/p/the-venezuelan-oil-narative-is-pure

Argue with the source if you need to.
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Venezuela also has the largest oil reserves in the world. It's already pulled out of the ground and ready for use with out gulf coast refineries, which were designed specifically for their sour crude.
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My dude, that’s not a news site and the article is not journalism. The author also does not have anything to backup her central claim that Trump attacked for rare earths and not oil.

Democratic Republic Of Mongo, you alright there mate? Pretty quiet now.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: h00man on January 07, 2026, 04:52:46 PM
this country is so fucked.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mongo Lloyd on January 07, 2026, 05:26:53 PM
this country is so fucked.

Not if we all collectively grow a pair and fight back.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: GardenSkater77 on January 07, 2026, 05:33:33 PM
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this country is so fucked.
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Not if we all collectively grow a pair and fight back.

What do you have in mind?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on January 07, 2026, 05:52:27 PM
Just removed ourselves from 60+ UN accords and inverted the food pyramid
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Jamie Fortuneteller on January 07, 2026, 06:02:06 PM
Just removed ourselves from 60+ UN accords and inverted the food pyramid
Putting whole foods at the top is a  smooth move, exlax. Meat and dairy are number one, sugar is trash. Forrest eats meat
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Post by: Mongo Lloyd on January 07, 2026, 06:04:41 PM
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this country is so fucked.
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Not if we all collectively grow a pair and fight back.
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What do you have in mind?

People have to make sacrifices. It’s a matter of lose a little or lose it all.

There are a number of amendments that allow for showing our displeasure.

Stop supporting businesses that support this regime. Actively protest them for their support of this regime.

Civil unrest, civil disobedience, general strike.

@Freelancevagrant had the right idea.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: GardenSkater77 on January 07, 2026, 07:36:51 PM
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this country is so fucked.
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Not if we all collectively grow a pair and fight back.
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What do you have in mind?
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People have to make sacrifices. It’s a matter of lose a little or lose it all.

There are a number of amendments that allow for showing our displeasure.

Stop supporting businesses that support this regime. Actively protest them for their support of this regime.

Civil unrest, civil disobedience, general strike.

@Freelancevagrant had the right idea.

I went to the No Kings Rally, but my felling was that it was more of a way to show the world that not everyone in the US is in agreement with the Trump government.

I understand your frustration and sentiment. I was sick to my stomach all day thinking about that poor woman and the rest of us that live. In a country with a psychopath for a president.

Not supporting businesses that support Trump would mean completely getting off the internet and not using my phone.

I don’t think there is only quick fix to what is going on in our country. My children are growing up in a world without civility. Trump is the effect not the cause.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on January 07, 2026, 07:42:18 PM
“Deadly force is perfectly lawful when a threat is faced by a weapon.”
Kristi Noem

So this is acceptable by the federal government?
Ok. Government says it’s cool, so if you see the Gestapo out harming people I guess it’s our legal right to act to save people. Got it.
Thanks Kristi!
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: fuck_that_guy on January 07, 2026, 07:53:13 PM
fuck that guy
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Emo jimmy on January 08, 2026, 12:05:20 AM
Im so frustrated. I have been. Fully agree with the last poster
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: AnimalChinaski79 on January 08, 2026, 02:58:12 AM
Don't worry we're on our way to being great again!  SMH

I'm 46 and never in my wildest dreams did I think this country would become what it is today.  Utterly disgusted and dumbfouned.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: The real veganshawn on January 08, 2026, 06:41:34 AM
So how long before trump tries to rename the country after himself?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: BallDontLie on January 08, 2026, 07:12:17 AM
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DTQMiF1jmn1/?igsh=c3k3b2VpbG9jeDFj
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on January 08, 2026, 07:43:00 AM
So how long before trump tries to rename the country after himself?

MAGA politicians keep trying to name cities and national parks after him, as well as putting his face on the National Parks Pass. Plus he just added his name to the Kennedy center and is currently planning on building his own Arc de Trump to dedicate to himself in DC.

So, I expect the remane by Summer.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on January 08, 2026, 07:47:37 AM
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DTQMiF1jmn1/?igsh=c3k3b2VpbG9jeDFj

Most def that cop peaked in junion high.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: devils acrobat on January 08, 2026, 08:20:10 AM
Its disheartening to see whats happening from across the atlantic. Having a citizen killed and responding with ignorance is utterly devastating for any last bit of democracy thats left. Stay safe us pals.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mongo Lloyd on January 08, 2026, 10:42:26 AM
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this country is so fucked.
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Not if we all collectively grow a pair and fight back.
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What do you have in mind?
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People have to make sacrifices. It’s a matter of lose a little or lose it all.

There are a number of amendments that allow for showing our displeasure.

Stop supporting businesses that support this regime. Actively protest them for their support of this regime.

Civil unrest, civil disobedience, general strike.

@Freelancevagrant had the right idea.
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I went to the No Kings Rally, but my felling was that it was more of a way to show the world that not everyone in the US is in agreement with the Trump government.

I understand your frustration and sentiment. I was sick to my stomach all day thinking about that poor woman and the rest of us that live. In a country with a psychopath for a president.

Not supporting businesses that support Trump would mean completely getting off the internet and not using my phone.

I don’t think there is only quick fix to what is going on in our country. My children are growing up in a world without civility. Trump is the effect not the cause.

I feel you, we’re all in the same boat. The No Kings Rallies simply are not enough. Simple protest really isn’t enough, especially when the other side plays by their own set of rules. I think there’s really some hard decisions to be made, and some major sacrifices to be made by some individuals if we are to get out of this situation whole. There’s a lot more of us than there is them.

I think like minded individuals need to band together locally. To form groups to protect and keep eachother safe. To have backup plans on how to skirt financially supporting this mess.

I think we also need to find a way to stop funding this mess federally en masse.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Gnarfunkell on January 08, 2026, 11:21:49 AM
On top of Renee's murder, ICE is entering schools and roughing people up.

https://www.mprnews.org/story/2026/01/08/after-border-patrol-clash-at-roosevelt-minneapolis-schools-cancel-classes
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: augustmoon on January 08, 2026, 11:34:42 AM
“Deadly force is perfectly lawful when a threat is faced by a weapon.”
Kristi Noem

So this is acceptable by the federal government?
Ok. Government says it’s cool, so if you see the Gestapo out harming people I guess it’s our legal right to act to save people. Got it.
Thanks Kristi!

No, not for us, that’s just for them.  They’re different, silly

NSPM-7 gives them the ability to arbitrarily name anyone a terrorist, justifying their murder or indefinite imprisonment.  If all else fails theyll just say you’re Antifa and get away with whatever they want do to you.

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mongo Lloyd on January 08, 2026, 11:52:29 AM
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“Deadly force is perfectly lawful when a threat is faced by a weapon.”
Kristi Noem

So this is acceptable by the federal government?
Ok. Government says it’s cool, so if you see the Gestapo out harming people I guess it’s our legal right to act to save people. Got it.
Thanks Kristi!
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No, not for us, that’s just for them.  They’re different, silly

NSPM-7 gives them the ability to arbitrarily name anyone a terrorist, justifying their murder or indefinite imprisonment.  If all else fails theyll just say you’re Antifa and get away with whatever they want do to you.

Thing is, if this is the level in which they’ve raised the stakes (and they have), then there is no reason why individuals shouldn’t be looking towards their 2a rights for self protection.

To me it seems like it’s “submit to a trampling, or fight back while being trampled “.

I’m not brave, but I know where I wanna be given those 2 options.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: AnimalChinaski79 on January 08, 2026, 12:37:25 PM
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this country is so fucked.
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Not if we all collectively grow a pair and fight back.
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What do you have in mind?
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People have to make sacrifices. It’s a matter of lose a little or lose it all.

There are a number of amendments that allow for showing our displeasure.

Stop supporting businesses that support this regime. Actively protest them for their support of this regime.

Civil unrest, civil disobedience, general strike.

@Freelancevagrant had the right idea.
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I went to the No Kings Rally, but my felling was that it was more of a way to show the world that not everyone in the US is in agreement with the Trump government.

I understand your frustration and sentiment. I was sick to my stomach all day thinking about that poor woman and the rest of us that live. In a country with a psychopath for a president.

Not supporting businesses that support Trump would mean completely getting off the internet and not using my phone.

I don’t think there is only quick fix to what is going on in our country. My children are growing up in a world without civility. Trump is the effect not the cause.
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I feel you, we’re all in the same boat. The No Kings Rallies simply are not enough. Simple protest really isn’t enough, especially when the other side plays by their own set of rules. I think there’s really some hard decisions to be made, and some major sacrifices to be made by some individuals if we are to get out of this situation whole. There’s a lot more of us than there is them.

I think like minded individuals need to band together locally. To form groups to protect and keep eachother safe. To have backup plans on how to skirt financially supporting this mess.

I think we also need to find a way to stop funding this mess federally en masse.

This!
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on January 08, 2026, 06:42:53 PM
The goal here is two-fold: One cause general terror in blue-states and 2 reduce blue state population in anyway to help increase GOP representation in the House.

Districting is not based how many citizens live in an area, but how many residents. Chipping away at blue state population in anyway helps red states get more seats in the house. And, I think they believe California is 99.99% undocumented immigrant, so they think it'll hurt the blue states/cities a lot.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on January 08, 2026, 06:47:57 PM
ICE announced that in honor of Trump, they reduced ICE training time to just 47 days.

It takes more time to get a decent sourdough starter going.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on January 08, 2026, 07:27:46 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/NMpyd9RY/IMG-6358.png) (https://postimg.cc/Kk3vzY9s)
https://www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/2026-01-08/federal-immigration-officers-shoot-and-wound-2-people-in-portland-oregon-authorities-say

Create bottlenecks and take advantage.
 Use cars and blocks/wood/garbage that’s not easy to move or drive over quickly, also try to avoid using people to congest things since they will be fired on no matter what.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Rusty Shackleford on January 08, 2026, 08:30:11 PM
'it is the policy of this government to treat democratic-led states as conquered territories and the people therein as something like hostiles or even enemy combatants'
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Candied cigarettes on January 08, 2026, 09:53:57 PM
That shitbag jd vance defending ICE after that horrific shooting in Minneapolis is so despicable. I’m not surprised, but it doesn’t make it any better. In fact, anyone defending this is seriously fucked
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Painted Baby on January 08, 2026, 10:21:51 PM
We all just did it like 5 years ago. A general strike looks more and more conceivable. The AI bubble pop is gonna wipe out huge job numbers anyway so maybe it will all coalesce. It's funny to me but the hardship this will cause would probably be the catalyzing moment they've been looking for but it will come to late and they won't know fuck all to do about it.

Boycott the World Cup. I know people love their football but FIFA is enabling this just like Hershey's and Paramount.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: friendly dave on January 08, 2026, 10:57:42 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/NMpyd9RY/IMG-6358.png) (https://postimg.cc/Kk3vzY9s)
https://www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/2026-01-08/federal-immigration-officers-shoot-and-wound-2-people-in-portland-oregon-authorities-say

Create bottlenecks and take advantage.
 Use cars and blocks/wood/garbage that’s not easy to move or drive over quickly, also try to avoid using people to congest things since they will be fired on no matter what.

This was several blocks from my house.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: S. on January 09, 2026, 12:13:13 AM
We all just did it like 5 years ago. A general strike looks more and more conceivable. The AI bubble pop is gonna wipe out huge job numbers anyway so maybe it will all coalesce. It's funny to me but the hardship this will cause would probably be the catalyzing moment they've been looking for but it will come to late and they won't know fuck all to do about it.

Boycott the World Cup. I know people love their football but FIFA is enabling this just like Hershey's and Paramount.


I support this. Fuck FIFA. They are essentially a mob operation just like the Trump administration.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: GardenSkater77 on January 09, 2026, 01:33:22 AM
The best promo Jesse ‘the body’ Ventura ever cut…

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=udSUbBhA8I0
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: excitableboy on January 09, 2026, 09:42:03 AM
Its disheartening to see whats happening from across the atlantic. Having a citizen killed and responding with ignorance is utterly devastating for any last bit of democracy thats left. Stay safe us pals.

They've exported so much of it that now they've run out.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: GardenSkater77 on January 09, 2026, 11:11:03 AM
The ‘officer’ shoots her in the face and the calls her a fucking bitch. Obviously, the guy was pissed at her like the guy who murdered his wife cause his football team lost. And Vance says this proves he was afraid for his life.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XMuQN_PaVw4
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on January 09, 2026, 11:25:19 AM
Texas just gave it's list of 18million registered voters to the Trump admin. Only a day after Vance mentioned he's going to have ICE go door-to-door checking papers. Aside from being a HUGE violation of the 4th amendment, it's a pretty convenient timeline.

Funny how MAGA went from "Don't Tread On Me" when Biden was in office to "TREAD RIGHT HERE!!" when Trump came back into office.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Billy Bitchcakes on January 09, 2026, 01:31:53 PM
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“Deadly force is perfectly lawful when a threat is faced by a weapon.”
Kristi Noem

So this is acceptable by the federal government?
Ok. Government says it’s cool, so if you see the Gestapo out harming people I guess it’s our legal right to act to save people. Got it.
Thanks Kristi!
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No, not for us, that’s just for them.  They’re different, silly

NSPM-7 gives them the ability to arbitrarily name anyone a terrorist, justifying their murder or indefinite imprisonment.  If all else fails theyll just say you’re Antifa and get away with whatever they want do to you.
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Thing is, if this is the level in which they’ve raised the stakes (and they have), then there is no reason why individuals shouldn’t be looking towards their 2a rights for self protection.

To me it seems like it’s “submit to a trampling, or fight back while being trampled “.

I’m not brave, but I know where I wanna be given those 2 options.

Not American. (BTW watching from the outside your country that we grew up idolising is fucking wild and absolutely horrific) Isn't the whole point of you guys' right to bear arms for this exact fucking situation? I get that the majority of the 2A nuts are going to be on Trump's side but like, I kind of would have expected at least something to happen by now. What's the point in all crying about how important it is that you maintain the right to arm yourselves if you're just going to sit back and let an authoritarian's private police force go out and shoot people in their cars? All those dead schoolchildren's lives seem even more in vein now

Edit - who was the guy with the Reggie Kelly avatar on here who was always defending gun ownership so vehemently? You out there shooting ICE agents in your city or what?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: EdLawndale on January 09, 2026, 08:04:00 PM
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“Deadly force is perfectly lawful when a threat is faced by a weapon.”
Kristi Noem

So this is acceptable by the federal government?
Ok. Government says it’s cool, so if you see the Gestapo out harming people I guess it’s our legal right to act to save people. Got it.
Thanks Kristi!
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No, not for us, that’s just for them.  They’re different, silly

NSPM-7 gives them the ability to arbitrarily name anyone a terrorist, justifying their murder or indefinite imprisonment.  If all else fails theyll just say you’re Antifa and get away with whatever they want do to you.
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Thing is, if this is the level in which they’ve raised the stakes (and they have), then there is no reason why individuals shouldn’t be looking towards their 2a rights for self protection.

To me it seems like it’s “submit to a trampling, or fight back while being trampled “.

I’m not brave, but I know where I wanna be given those 2 options.
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Not American. (BTW watching from the outside your country that we grew up idolising is fucking wild and absolutely horrific) Isn't the whole point of you guys' right to bear arms for this exact fucking situation? I get that the majority of the 2A nuts are going to be on Trump's side but like, I kind of would have expected at least something to happen by now. What's the point in all crying about how important it is that you maintain the right to arm yourselves if you're just going to sit back and let an authoritarian's private police force go out and shoot people in their cars? All those dead schoolchildren's lives seem even more in vein now

Edit - who was the guy with the Reggie Kelly avatar on here who was always defending gun ownership so vehemently? You out there shooting ICE agents in your city or what?

Respectfully, I feel like you answered your own question...

It's horrific being on the outside looking in? Imagine how terrifying it is being here.

The only good thing that will come out of this is that there will be some great American rap music for all you foreigners to idolize and mimic when this is all over and done with (if we survive)...
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on January 09, 2026, 08:43:08 PM
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“Deadly force is perfectly lawful when a threat is faced by a weapon.”
Kristi Noem

So this is acceptable by the federal government?
Ok. Government says it’s cool, so if you see the Gestapo out harming people I guess it’s our legal right to act to save people. Got it.
Thanks Kristi!
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No, not for us, that’s just for them.  They’re different, silly

NSPM-7 gives them the ability to arbitrarily name anyone a terrorist, justifying their murder or indefinite imprisonment.  If all else fails theyll just say you’re Antifa and get away with whatever they want do to you.
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Thing is, if this is the level in which they’ve raised the stakes (and they have), then there is no reason why individuals shouldn’t be looking towards their 2a rights for self protection.

To me it seems like it’s “submit to a trampling, or fight back while being trampled “.

I’m not brave, but I know where I wanna be given those 2 options.
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Not American. (BTW watching from the outside your country that we grew up idolising is fucking wild and absolutely horrific) Isn't the whole point of you guys' right to bear arms for this exact fucking situation? I get that the majority of the 2A nuts are going to be on Trump's side but like, I kind of would have expected at least something to happen by now. What's the point in all crying about how important it is that you maintain the right to arm yourselves if you're just going to sit back and let an authoritarian's private police force go out and shoot people in their cars? All those dead schoolchildren's lives seem even more in vein now

Edit - who was the guy with the Reggie Kelly avatar on here who was always defending gun ownership so vehemently? You out there shooting ICE agents in your city or what?

Because MAGA 2A people love this.

They always cry they need to be armed in case they need to stand up to a tyrannical government. But when the tyrannical government happens to be their guy, they’re okay with putting their guns down and kicking their feet up.

When Obama wanted to make sure everyone had health coverage and couldn’t be denied based on pre-existing conditions, they were locked and loaded.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: GardenSkater77 on January 09, 2026, 09:18:30 PM
This tuber has info on the murderer:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qcxxQ2sFY28

I hope he enjoyed his house cause he ain’t going back there again…

https://www.trulia.com/home/1120-francesca-ct-chaska-mn-55318-118632657

Looks like an upper middle class home. Must be nice making 6 figures for beating up immigrants and murdering a US citizen.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Painted Baby on January 09, 2026, 11:06:55 PM
This tuber has info on the murderer:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qcxxQ2sFY28

I hope he enjoyed his house cause he ain’t going back there again…

https://www.trulia.com/home/1120-francesca-ct-chaska-mn-55318-118632657

Looks like an upper middle class home. Must be nice making 6 figures for beating up immigrants and murdering a US citizen.
Pretty sure Keith skates
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: AnimalChinaski79 on January 10, 2026, 07:48:46 AM
I'm more pissed off every fucking day. 
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Candied cigarettes on January 10, 2026, 11:15:33 AM
This is way less important than what’s happening with ICE, but still worth paying attention to imo. This video breaks down how moronic the new dietary guidelines are.

 https://www.instagram.com/reel/DTTTSffkZDK/?igsh=MXd5d2Uwczk5dHE5MQ== (https://www.instagram.com/reel/DTTTSffkZDK/?igsh=MXd5d2Uwczk5dHE5MQ==)

Big fan of this person in general, she’s really good at making public health issues approachable.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on January 10, 2026, 12:14:42 PM
Only moronic in the sense that when Michelle Obama tried to introduce the same plan in 2012 (after moving away from the old food pyramid to the new plate program) the GOP cried out that it was government overreach and her plan to make kids healthy was creating a “nanny state.”

Because apparently, health advice is only worth taking from someone who did heroin for a dozen years, willingly ate road kill and had literal brain worms.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: GardenSkater77 on January 10, 2026, 03:53:10 PM
Best breakdown I’ve seen yet. The agent pulls his gun before the driver lurches forward. Around 8 min mark. This guy must have snapped because he made a decision to kill her right there.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MynEi1Ax6F4
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: AnimalChinaski79 on January 11, 2026, 02:55:17 AM
He called her a "fucking bitch" after he unloaded three shots into her face.  These fucking people are cold blooded sociopaths.  How inhumane do you have to be to do that to another human being and callously walk away calling her a "fucking bitch"?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: companguero on January 11, 2026, 04:57:08 AM
Jonathan Ross' testimony will be crucial.
it's biased but it's the last bit of evidence I'm interested in.

emboldened badged armed stooge of the state is my pov.

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: augustmoon on January 11, 2026, 05:22:27 AM
100 % proof of premeditation when he switches the gun to his right hand.  Any right winger that denies this is doing so because they want impunity to kill their enemies. 

This event, and the administration’s reaction to it, is meant to put the American public on notice: if you step out of line, we will kill you, and we will label you as a terrorist to justify it
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on January 11, 2026, 07:53:12 AM
This event, and the administration’s reaction to it, is meant to put the American publicy on notice: if you step out of line, we will kill you, and we will label you as a terrorist to justify it

They made this clear when they deemed ANTIFA a domestic terrorism organization without being able to prove that it is in fact an organization.

It’s a message that anyone they don’t like will be callously and without base, be labeled ANTIFA, and therefore, a terrorist.

Making political opposition a literal enemy of the state.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Painted Baby on January 11, 2026, 10:29:00 AM
100 % proof of premeditation when he switches the gun to his right hand.  Any right winger that denies this is doing so because they want impunity to kill their enemies. 

This event, and the administration’s reaction to it, is meant to put the American public on notice: if you step out of line, we will kill you, and we will label you as a terrorist to justify it
Another thing I haven't really seen mentioned is how he tracks her when firing shots 2 and 3. The first one could have been explained away as reflexive but he continues to draw down on her as she turns. That's intent to kill and his defense is gonna have an impossible time explaining that during the trial.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Jamie Fortuneteller on January 11, 2026, 10:33:24 AM
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100 % proof of premeditation when he switches the gun to his right hand.  Any right winger that denies this is doing so because they want impunity to kill their enemies. 

This event, and the administration’s reaction to it, is meant to put the American public on notice: if you step out of line, we will kill you, and we will label you as a terrorist to justify it
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Another thing I haven't really seen mentioned is how he tracks her when firing shots 2 and 3. The first one could have been explained away as reflexive but he continues to draw down on her as she turns. That's intent to kill and his defense is gonna have an impossible time explaining that during the trial.
Our cops are trained by the idf
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: augustmoon on January 11, 2026, 05:27:43 PM
I feel like the ICE officers have a directive to start killing people.  The point of ICE is not really immigration, the intention has always been to turn this against citizens who the deem a threat.  Seems like the mask is almost fully off.  DHS is tweeting blatant fascist/nazi slogans, “believe your leader, not your own eyes” gaslighting as policy.   The majority of the country is in complete denial. 

At the root of this are Christian cultists (and Israel) really thinking they are going to bring about the apocalypse
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Jamie Fortuneteller on January 11, 2026, 07:13:50 PM
I feel like the ICE officers have a directive to start killing people.  The point of ICE is not really immigration, the intention has always been to turn this against citizens who the deem a threat.  Seems like the mask is almost fully off.  DHS is tweeting blatant fascist/nazi slogans, “believe your leader, not your own eyes” gaslighting as policy.   The majority of the country is in complete denial. 

At the root of this are Christian cultists (and Israel) really thinking they are going to bring about the apocalypse
You sound like a madman
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: S. on January 11, 2026, 11:35:29 PM
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I feel like the ICE officers have a directive to start killing people.  The point of ICE is not really immigration, the intention has always been to turn this against citizens who the deem a threat.  Seems like the mask is almost fully off.  DHS is tweeting blatant fascist/nazi slogans, “believe your leader, not your own eyes” gaslighting as policy.   The majority of the country is in complete denial. 

At the root of this are Christian cultists (and Israel) really thinking they are going to bring about the apocalypse
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You sound like a madman


This is not that far fetched. ICE gives Trump direct executive influence in states where political opponents control the police. It is also not without precedents. Venezuela is partially controlled by paramilitary groups which function outside of the  usual democratic controls.
I think it is certainly a strategic move to strengthen the executive and to intimidate immigrants and political opponents.

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: AnimalChinaski79 on January 12, 2026, 03:16:30 AM
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I feel like the ICE officers have a directive to start killing people.  The point of ICE is not really immigration, the intention has always been to turn this against citizens who the deem a threat.  Seems like the mask is almost fully off.  DHS is tweeting blatant fascist/nazi slogans, “believe your leader, not your own eyes” gaslighting as policy.   The majority of the country is in complete denial. 

At the root of this are Christian cultists (and Israel) really thinking they are going to bring about the apocalypse
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You sound like a madman

A "madman"?   Nah, He sounds pretty spot on to me.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on January 12, 2026, 07:25:54 AM
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I feel like the ICE officers have a directive to start killing people.  The point of ICE is not really immigration, the intention has always been to turn this against citizens who the deem a threat.  Seems like the mask is almost fully off.  DHS is tweeting blatant fascist/nazi slogans, “believe your leader, not your own eyes” gaslighting as policy.   The majority of the country is in complete denial. 

At the root of this are Christian cultists (and Israel) really thinking they are going to bring about the apocalypse
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You sound like a madman
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A "madman"?   Nah, He sounds pretty spot on to me.

When he told the Proud Boys to “Stand Back and Stand By” this is what he meant. He deputized them. Making his militia followers into his own personal force to use on the people. When Bondi, Noem, and Leavitt told ICE they have immunity and authority, they had no hesitation to act like it. It’s why they’re busting windows, pulling people out of cars, and going door-to-door.

It’s also why they’re targeting places like schools, places of worship, hospitals, etc. It’s because they are unhinged.

Military ROE forbades raiding of those same locations, but Trump is openly allowing ICE to do that to his own citizens.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: GnarAlarm on January 12, 2026, 10:34:04 AM
I feel like the ICE officers have a directive to start killing people.  The point of ICE is not really immigration, the intention has always been to turn this against citizens who the deem a threat.  Seems like the mask is almost fully off.  DHS is tweeting blatant fascist/nazi slogans, “believe your leader, not your own eyes” gaslighting as policy.   The majority of the country is in complete denial. 

At the root of this are Christian cultists (and Israel) really thinking they are going to bring about the apocalypse

I dunno if this is even tin foil hat territory, but I'm pretty convinced they're pushing the boundaries further and further in attempt to provoke us to physically attack ICE agents en masse, clearing the path for a declaration of martial law that will never end, including suspension of elections.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Painted Baby on January 12, 2026, 11:33:58 PM
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I feel like the ICE officers have a directive to start killing people.  The point of ICE is not really immigration, the intention has always been to turn this against citizens who the deem a threat.  Seems like the mask is almost fully off.  DHS is tweeting blatant fascist/nazi slogans, “believe your leader, not your own eyes” gaslighting as policy.   The majority of the country is in complete denial. 

At the root of this are Christian cultists (and Israel) really thinking they are going to bring about the apocalypse
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I dunno if this is even tin foil hat territory, but I'm pretty convinced they're pushing the boundaries further and further in attempt to provoke us to physically attack ICE agents en masse, clearing the path for a declaration of martial law that will never end, including suspension of elections.
This is not tinfoil hat stuff. This has been the general sentiment in the resistance since inauguration. We knew they were going to be deputized and armed and that open conflict wasn't gonna work like last time. This is why it's wine moms and the elderly and disabled who show up every day, You can't fight fascism with proportionate retaliation. You'll just be killed and lied on.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on January 12, 2026, 11:56:15 PM
Only moronic in the sense that when Michelle Obama tried to introduce the same plan in 2012 (after moving away from the old food pyramid to the new plate program) the GOP cried out that it was government overreach and her plan to make kids healthy was creating a “nanny state.”

Because apparently, health advice is only worth taking from someone who did heroin for a dozen years, willingly ate road kill and had literal brain worms.

There is a famous study where a bunch of people pretend to hear voices in order to get admitted to an asylum. Once they are admitted, they act normal and no longer complain of hearing voices. The doctors, nurses, and orderlies interpret everything they do as evidence of their severe mental health issues. No matter what they do, it is evidence of being insane:wanting privacy while using the toilet --> insane; taking notes --> insane; being close with one's mom as young child and then with the dad as an older adolescent --> insane.

This is the world we live in where even if Obama or someone else does something normal or good, it will be interpreted as bad by those who predetermined biases about them. This is even more true with FOX and AM radio constantly making money off of trying to stoke outrage. Something that someone might see as neutral, becomes rage bait, because rage bait drives the political agenda and engagement. And, things that would throw the right-wing into hyper drive are downplayed.

We aren't perfect and do similar things in reverse. We've been a little too reactionary at attempt to dismantel regulations. We should have been promoting smart regulations not necessarily the status quo.

And while I have my doubts on the sincerity and it is hard to look past the Trump admin/republican support for pay-day-lenders, the 10% max interest on credit cards would be a win for most people. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

But let's not forget, Epstein and the 60+ international groups meant to protect the world: https://www.npr.org/sections/goats-and-soda/2026/01/08/nx-s1-5671117/trump-withdrawal-united-nations-health
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: AnimalChinaski79 on January 13, 2026, 03:02:24 AM
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Only moronic in the sense that when Michelle Obama tried to introduce the same plan in 2012 (after moving away from the old food pyramid to the new plate program) the GOP cried out that it was government overreach and her plan to make kids healthy was creating a “nanny state.”

Because apparently, health advice is only worth taking from someone who did heroin for a dozen years, willingly ate road kill and had literal brain worms.
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There is a famous study where a bunch of people pretend to hear voices in order to get admitted to an asylum. Once they are admitted, they act normal and no longer complain of hearing voices. The doctors, nurses, and orderlies interpret everything they do as evidence of their severe mental health issues. No matter what they do, it is evidence of being insane:wanting privacy while using the toilet --> insane; taking notes --> insane; being close with one's mom as young child and then with the dad as an older adolescent --> insane.

This is the world we live in where even if Obama or someone else does something normal or good, it will be interpreted as bad by those who predetermined biases about them. This is even more true with FOX and AM radio constantly making money off of trying to stoke outrage. Something that someone might see as neutral, becomes rage bait, because rage bait drives the political agenda and engagement. And, things that would throw the right-wing into hyper drive are downplayed.

We aren't perfect and do similar things in reverse. We've been a little too reactionary at attempt to dismantel regulations. We should have been promoting smart regulations not necessarily the status quo.

And while I have my doubts on the sincerity and it is hard to look past the Trump admin/republican support for pay-day-lenders, the 10% max interest on credit cards would be a win for most people. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

But let's not forget, Epstein and the 60+ international groups meant to protect the world: https://www.npr.org/sections/goats-and-soda/2026/01/08/nx-s1-5671117/trump-withdrawal-united-nations-health

10 percent interest rate cap is throwing crumbs to the serfs.  No thanks, I'm more interested in French Revolution style reform where heads roll. 
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Jim and Dan on January 13, 2026, 06:36:05 AM
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Only moronic in the sense that when Michelle Obama tried to introduce the same plan in 2012 (after moving away from the old food pyramid to the new plate program) the GOP cried out that it was government overreach and her plan to make kids healthy was creating a “nanny state.”

Because apparently, health advice is only worth taking from someone who did heroin for a dozen years, willingly ate road kill and had literal brain worms.
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There is a famous study where a bunch of people pretend to hear voices in order to get admitted to an asylum. Once they are admitted, they act normal and no longer complain of hearing voices. The doctors, nurses, and orderlies interpret everything they do as evidence of their severe mental health issues. No matter what they do, it is evidence of being insane:wanting privacy while using the toilet --> insane; taking notes --> insane; being close with one's mom as young child and then with the dad as an older adolescent --> insane.

This is the world we live in where even if Obama or someone else does something normal or good, it will be interpreted as bad by those who predetermined biases about them. This is even more true with FOX and AM radio constantly making money off of trying to stoke outrage. Something that someone might see as neutral, becomes rage bait, because rage bait drives the political agenda and engagement. And, things that would throw the right-wing into hyper drive are downplayed.

We aren't perfect and do similar things in reverse. We've been a little too reactionary at attempt to dismantel regulations. We should have been promoting smart regulations not necessarily the status quo.

And while I have my doubts on the sincerity and it is hard to look past the Trump admin/republican support for pay-day-lenders, the 10% max interest on credit cards would be a win for most people. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

But let's not forget, Epstein and the 60+ international groups meant to protect the world: https://www.npr.org/sections/goats-and-soda/2026/01/08/nx-s1-5671117/trump-withdrawal-united-nations-health
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10 percent interest rate cap is throwing crumbs to the serfs.  No thanks, I'm more interested in French Revolution style reform where heads roll.

If people have to rely on credit cards for survival, 10% rate caps aren't going to make a difference if they can't pay them down in the first place, it's all optical bullshit like the "no taxes on tips and overtime" hoopla that was a pure distraction in order to make massive corporate tax cutes...

This country is so fucking fucked...
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Chalupa on January 13, 2026, 06:56:33 AM
10% cap isn’t going to happen. People like Jamie Dimon and Bill Ackman will pay him 5 million each not to.

If anything, they’ll set a cap around 40% and have FOX and Newsmax spin it as protecting consumers.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Jim and Dan on January 13, 2026, 07:12:48 AM
10% cap isn’t going to happen. People like Jamie Dimon and Bill Ackman will pay him 5 million each not to.

If anything, they’ll set a cap around 40% and have FOX and Newsmax spin it as protecting consumers.

See that's the thing, special interest will always prevail under this system, especially under a regime so flagrantly corrupt...
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on January 13, 2026, 09:10:43 AM
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10% cap isn’t going to happen. People like Jamie Dimon and Bill Ackman will pay him 5 million each not to.

If anything, they’ll set a cap around 40% and have FOX and Newsmax spin it as protecting consumers.
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See that's the thing, special interest will always prevail under this system, especially under a regime so flagrantly corrupt...

The sad thing is, all Trump has to do is just put it on Truth Social and MAGA will be like, "See? It's real. Why would he name his platform 'Truth Social' if he wasn't telling the Truth?"

So yea, I agree. He can say 40% interest rates are necessary to fight communism/socialism/marxism and MAGA will go running for a 38% interest with a high spend limit.

And if by chance that 10% bill goes through, he'll quickly take credit for it, while completely refusing to acknoledge that AOC introduced the bill with Bernie's backing.

Much like how he's taking for the Infrastructure Bill in deep red areas.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: GardenSkater77 on January 13, 2026, 11:14:22 AM
I personally find it sick that the media has moved on to Jerome Powell. Messing with interest rates will certainly wake our Congress people and senators up but we should still be having a conversation as a country about the woman in MN being shot and killed because she was annoying ice agents. With all the atrocities with the Trump administration this one seems to be the most emblematic of their attitude towards the people of the country. I’m glad some independent media members are staying on the topic because if you cannot convince the vast majority in the country that faceless, nameless government agents can decide to terminate life in the streets then what do any of the other topics matter.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eM4yW0xQp8Q
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on January 13, 2026, 12:43:13 PM
I personally find it sick that the media has moved on to Jerome Powell. Messing with interest rates will certainly wake our Congress people and senators up but we should still be having a conversation as a country about the woman in MN being shot and killed because she was annoying ice agents. With all the atrocities with the Trump administration this one seems to be the most emblematic of their attitude towards the people of the country. I’m glad some independent media members are staying on the topic because if you cannot convince the vast majority in the country that faceless, nameless government agents can decide to terminate life in the streets then what do any of the other topics matter.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eM4yW0xQp8Q

I've said it again and again, it's not the "liberal media" controlling the narrative. It's the special interest media.

Look who is buying media up — Bezos bought WaPo, CBS was bought and put Bari Weiss in charge, Pat Soon for LA Times, Rupert Murdoch buying the WallStreet Journal, and Musk with Twitter.

Narratives are moving because Trump says to move them. And when they do, they buy favor and legislation as well.

Remember when Biden was in office? NY Times, Wall Street, all of them were constantly releasing OpEds on why Biden and Kamala were a failed state and how they need to resign. Once Trump took office, all that disappeared.

It's sucks to find reliable news that will hit hard on the stories that matter.

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Chalupa on January 13, 2026, 06:20:49 PM
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I personally find it sick that the media has moved on to Jerome Powell. Messing with interest rates will certainly wake our Congress people and senators up but we should still be having a conversation as a country about the woman in MN being shot and killed because she was annoying ice agents. With all the atrocities with the Trump administration this one seems to be the most emblematic of their attitude towards the people of the country. I’m glad some independent media members are staying on the topic because if you cannot convince the vast majority in the country that faceless, nameless government agents can decide to terminate life in the streets then what do any of the other topics matter.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eM4yW0xQp8Q
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I've said it again and again, it's not the "liberal media" controlling the narrative. It's the special interest media.

Look who is buying media up — Bezos bought WaPo, CBS was bought and put Bari Weiss in charge, Pat Soon for LA Times, Rupert Murdoch buying the WallStreet Journal, and Musk with Twitter.

Narratives are moving because Trump says to move them. And when they do, they buy favor and legislation as well.

Remember when Biden was in office? NY Times, Wall Street, all of them were constantly releasing OpEds on why Biden and Kamala were a failed state and how they need to resign. Once Trump took office, all that disappeared.

It's sucks to find reliable news that will hit hard on the stories that matter.


https://theintercept.com/
https://chrishedges.substack.com/
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: sidekickman on January 13, 2026, 09:29:10 PM
over a decade ago facebook did a study that people who use the internet should probably be more aware of. if they ever did more studies on this psychological contagion stuff, they didn't publish as far as i know. but in theory you could use feed algorithms to manipulate peoples moods while focusing their attention toward certain topics and perspectives, and i think that's relevant. especially in the context of consolidated private ownership of the public forum and bad-faith uses of ai in social media

the emotional contagion study is on penis and v short

https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.1320040111
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Big Skatefase on January 14, 2026, 07:42:28 AM
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I personally find it sick that the media has moved on to Jerome Powell. Messing with interest rates will certainly wake our Congress people and senators up but we should still be having a conversation as a country about the woman in MN being shot and killed because she was annoying ice agents. With all the atrocities with the Trump administration this one seems to be the most emblematic of their attitude towards the people of the country. I’m glad some independent media members are staying on the topic because if you cannot convince the vast majority in the country that faceless, nameless government agents can decide to terminate life in the streets then what do any of the other topics matter.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eM4yW0xQp8Q
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I've said it again and again, it's not the "liberal media" controlling the narrative. It's the special interest media.

Look who is buying media up — Bezos bought WaPo, CBS was bought and put Bari Weiss in charge, Pat Soon for LA Times, Rupert Murdoch buying the WallStreet Journal, and Musk with Twitter.

Narratives are moving because Trump says to move them. And when they do, they buy favor and legislation as well.

Remember when Biden was in office? NY Times, Wall Street, all of them were constantly releasing OpEds on why Biden and Kamala were a failed state and how they need to resign. Once Trump took office, all that disappeared.

It's sucks to find reliable news that will hit hard on the stories that matter.


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https://theintercept.com/
https://chrishedges.substack.com/
https://www.democracynow.org/
https://www.dropsitenews.com/
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: GardenSkater77 on January 14, 2026, 10:12:34 PM
Feel good story of the year…

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AV3NwegKZmE&pp=0gcJCTIBo7VqN5tD
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on January 14, 2026, 10:17:19 PM
Feel good story of the year…

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AV3NwegKZmE&pp=0gcJCTIBo7VqN5tD

That dude said “Trump is a blue collar guy…”

What a stupid ass fucking take.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: I-am-12 on January 15, 2026, 08:27:24 AM
I like to lurk on / occasionally post on a running forum I've been part of for 10+ years because I ran for sport in school. Distance running is big in rural America (though I wasn't in rural America, I would just read the forums).

I was disgusted by the ICE takes on those forums. It's niche enough where I don't think it's bots, its just the opinion of HS and college cross country coaches in Nebraska. Id sayd 50% of takes were pro-ICE / defending them, another 30% were "centrists" who would talk about whether or not its justified or analyzing shit in IMAX 1080HD60FPS or whatever, completely losing the plot.

I'm happy everyone here is logical, has common sense, and isn't beyond saving from American propaganda.


That being said, I saw a tik tok (great source, I know), of someone saying they HEARD someone else says they know yada etc x5) that the Orders ICE agents got when going to MN was that 100% of the somolis were undocumented (not true, 90% have papers, the people doing the fraud have papers), and that they have serious quotas they have to meet and are already getting desperate. And apparently the $50k bonus only hits if you don't quit for 5 years.. They're also under the impression that everyone loves them and they'll be welcome with open arms, which I believe because I guarantee they live in bubbles where their entire algorithm + TV (fox) is feeding them the garbage that made them that way.

I think this is all intentional (lying to them to provoke more violence to send a message).
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: RichardBarkley on January 15, 2026, 08:53:14 AM
This threat of invasion on Greenland is insane.

Really disappointed im actually speechless. Europe always thought the US was it's closest ally.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on January 15, 2026, 09:18:17 AM
This threat of invasion on Greenland is insane.

Really disappointed im actually speechless. Europe always thought the US was it's closest ally.

Trump did a good job of making MAGA think that isolating ourselves from our allies is a smart move.

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Chalupa on January 15, 2026, 09:58:05 AM
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Feel good story of the year…

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AV3NwegKZmE&pp=0gcJCTIBo7VqN5tD
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That dude said “Trump is a blue collar guy…”

What a stupid ass fucking take.
Sadly, Trump eating fast food and being a sex offender makes people relate to him or wish that they were him.

This threat of invasion on Greenland is insane.

Really disappointed im actually speechless. Europe always thought the US was it's closest ally.
The guy is insane and the majority of what he does is insane. He does too much to distract people from his relationship with Epstein. It's hard not to think that he fucked kids.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Nom De Plume on January 15, 2026, 11:23:24 AM
I like to lurk on / occasionally post on a running forum I've been part of for 10+ years because I ran for sport in school. Distance running is big in rural America (though I wasn't in rural America, I would just read the forums).

I was disgusted by the ICE takes on those forums. It's niche enough where I don't think it's bots, its just the opinion of HS and college cross country coaches in Nebraska. Id sayd 50% of takes were pro-ICE / defending them, another 30% were "centrists" who would talk about whether or not its justified or analyzing shit in IMAX 1080HD60FPS or whatever, completely losing the plot.

I'm happy everyone here is logical, has common sense, and isn't beyond saving from American propaganda.


That being said, I saw a tik tok (great source, I know), of someone saying they HEARD someone else says they know yada etc x5) that the Orders ICE agents got when going to MN was that 100% of the somolis were undocumented (not true, 90% have papers, the people doing the fraud have papers), and that they have serious quotas they have to meet and are already getting desperate. And apparently the $50k bonus only hits if you don't quit for 5 years.. They're also under the impression that everyone loves them and they'll be welcome with open arms, which I believe because I guarantee they live in bubbles where their entire algorithm + TV (fox) is feeding them the garbage that made them that way.

I think this is all intentional (lying to them to provoke more violence to send a message).
Is it Letsrun.com? That's like running's SLAP yeah?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: I-am-12 on January 15, 2026, 11:31:22 AM
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I like to lurk on / occasionally post on a running forum I've been part of for 10+ years because I ran for sport in school. Distance running is big in rural America (though I wasn't in rural America, I would just read the forums).

I was disgusted by the ICE takes on those forums. It's niche enough where I don't think it's bots, its just the opinion of HS and college cross country coaches in Nebraska. Id sayd 50% of takes were pro-ICE / defending them, another 30% were "centrists" who would talk about whether or not its justified or analyzing shit in IMAX 1080HD60FPS or whatever, completely losing the plot.

I'm happy everyone here is logical, has common sense, and isn't beyond saving from American propaganda.


That being said, I saw a tik tok (great source, I know), of someone saying they HEARD someone else says they know yada etc x5) that the Orders ICE agents got when going to MN was that 100% of the somolis were undocumented (not true, 90% have papers, the people doing the fraud have papers), and that they have serious quotas they have to meet and are already getting desperate. And apparently the $50k bonus only hits if you don't quit for 5 years.. They're also under the impression that everyone loves them and they'll be welcome with open arms, which I believe because I guarantee they live in bubbles where their entire algorithm + TV (fox) is feeding them the garbage that made them that way.

I think this is all intentional (lying to them to provoke more violence to send a message).
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Is it Letsrun.com? That's like running's SLAP yeah?

It is Letsrun lol. I consider it more like 4chan instead of Slap since its fully anonymous. But yes, in terms of people "taking it seriously", as in no one there is a casual runner, it's people like me who actually follow professional running or may have even considered it after going D1 or whatever.

It's good for trash talking and memes and true unfiltered opinions regarding running from true running nerds. I just never ventured to the "Unrelated", non-running threads until now.

It's a shame because my favorite t shirt is a shirt with their logo, makes me feel weird wearing it now.


Honestly some of the funniest threads I've ever read were on Letsrun. I kinda wish Slap was fully anon sometimes....it sucks 4chan /xs/ is filled with nothing but beginner skaters who aren't in the know enough to create hilarious niche jokes. Anon Slap would be insane tho...
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on January 15, 2026, 11:52:53 AM
Trump is now OPENLY suggesting to Reuters how we don't need November elections.

Right-wing media is already trying to downplay it by calling it a joke.

As always, if he's saying it, he's NOT joking.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Painted Baby on January 15, 2026, 12:03:06 PM
Trump is now OPENLY suggesting to Reuters how we don't need November elections.

Right-wing media is already trying to downplay it by calling it a joke.

As always, if he's saying it, he's NOT joking.
Right that's why they're lying to Ice agents that are being deployed to cities they don't know. They want to create a situation explosive enough that it will pop off and they can use the Insurrection Act to declare martial law and suspend elections in November. This is the actual point of all of these deployments
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on January 15, 2026, 12:16:10 PM
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Trump is now OPENLY suggesting to Reuters how we don't need November elections.

Right-wing media is already trying to downplay it by calling it a joke.

As always, if he's saying it, he's NOT joking.
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Right that's why they're lying to Ice agents that are being deployed to cities they don't know. They want to create a situation explosive enough that it will pop off and they can use the Insurrection Act to declare martial law and suspend elections in November. This is the actual point of all of these deployments

100% on the dot. When it came to the National Guard, The Guard were to restrained and didn't really cause any kind of ruckus.

Now with ICE, it's been announced that due to a "clerical error" there are ICE agents being sent to the field without any training and/or incomplete training. Add to the fact that these dudes are 3 percenters, Proud Boys, and White Supremacists in uniform, they have no concern for the safety of the public.

So yea, Trump called in the right people to create enough unrest to cause commotion enough to him to invoke Martial Law and prevent voting from happening.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Unkle Fleak on January 15, 2026, 12:23:58 PM
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Trump is now OPENLY suggesting to Reuters how we don't need November elections.

Right-wing media is already trying to downplay it by calling it a joke.

As always, if he's saying it, he's NOT joking.
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Right that's why they're lying to Ice agents that are being deployed to cities they don't know. They want to create a situation explosive enough that it will pop off and they can use the Insurrection Act to declare martial law and suspend elections in November. This is the actual point of all of these deployments
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100% on the dot. When it came to the National Guard, The Guard were to restrained and didn't really cause any kind of ruckus.

Now with ICE, it's been announced that due to a "clerical error" there are ICE agents being sent to the field without any training and/or incomplete training. Add to the fact that these dudes are 3 percenters, Proud Boys, and White Supremacists in uniform, they have no concern for the safety of the public.

So yea, Trump called in the right people to create enough unrest to cause commotion enough to him to invoke Martial Law and prevent voting from happening.

Yep. Not to mention every single service person I know has completely abandoned maga.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on January 15, 2026, 12:40:56 PM
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Trump is now OPENLY suggesting to Reuters how we don't need November elections.

Right-wing media is already trying to downplay it by calling it a joke.

As always, if he's saying it, he's NOT joking.
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Right that's why they're lying to Ice agents that are being deployed to cities they don't know. They want to create a situation explosive enough that it will pop off and they can use the Insurrection Act to declare martial law and suspend elections in November. This is the actual point of all of these deployments
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100% on the dot. When it came to the National Guard, The Guard were to restrained and didn't really cause any kind of ruckus.

Now with ICE, it's been announced that due to a "clerical error" there are ICE agents being sent to the field without any training and/or incomplete training. Add to the fact that these dudes are 3 percenters, Proud Boys, and White Supremacists in uniform, they have no concern for the safety of the public.

So yea, Trump called in the right people to create enough unrest to cause commotion enough to him to invoke Martial Law and prevent voting from happening.
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Yep. Not to mention every single service person I know has completely abandoned maga.

Lucky for you. Too many service people I know still believe in MAGA and Trump. They might say they don't agree with everything he does, but for the most part, still believe he's doing a good job. Better than Biden/Obama/Kamala.

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: h00man on January 15, 2026, 12:41:45 PM
everything trump is doing is exactly what China and Russia want

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/website-that-leaked-info-about-ice-agents-is-down-after-cyberattack/ar-AA1UdLs1?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=79dff0e2d954448adb2f60156398d2b3&ei=10#comments

This is also interesting....

Skinner told The Daily Beast that a massive number of IPs began accessing the website, and a large amount of the traffic appeared to come from Russia – leading the founder to speculate the attack originated there.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Painted Baby on January 15, 2026, 01:04:07 PM
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Trump is now OPENLY suggesting to Reuters how we don't need November elections.

Right-wing media is already trying to downplay it by calling it a joke.

As always, if he's saying it, he's NOT joking.
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Right that's why they're lying to Ice agents that are being deployed to cities they don't know. They want to create a situation explosive enough that it will pop off and they can use the Insurrection Act to declare martial law and suspend elections in November. This is the actual point of all of these deployments
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100% on the dot. When it came to the National Guard, The Guard were to restrained and didn't really cause any kind of ruckus.

Now with ICE, it's been announced that due to a "clerical error" there are ICE agents being sent to the field without any training and/or incomplete training. Add to the fact that these dudes are 3 percenters, Proud Boys, and White Supremacists in uniform, they have no concern for the safety of the public.

So yea, Trump called in the right people to create enough unrest to cause commotion enough to him to invoke Martial Law and prevent voting from happening.
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Yep. Not to mention every single service person I know has completely abandoned maga.
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Lucky for you. Too many service people I know still believe in MAGA and Trump. They might say they don't agree with everything he does, but for the most part, still believe he's doing a good job. Better than Biden/Obama/Kamala.
Enrique Tarrio was on an Ice roster list leaked this week
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: GnarAlarm on January 15, 2026, 01:08:50 PM
Highly, highly recommend a listen to this episode of Weird Little Guys. It's about an hour long but well worth your time.
I've been reacting to everything going on with unbridled rage for years, but I think I needed to have a nice cry, and man, Molly Conger finally ripped it out of me at about the 5 minute mark of this episode.
I'm at work so I had to run to the bathroom and just bury my head in my hands.

https://www.iheart.com/podcast/1119-weird-little-guys-201395214/episode/cops-klan-317471366?app=listen

It's available on every podcast platform, give it a listen if you're up for it.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Unkle Fleak on January 15, 2026, 01:51:28 PM
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Trump is now OPENLY suggesting to Reuters how we don't need November elections.

Right-wing media is already trying to downplay it by calling it a joke.

As always, if he's saying it, he's NOT joking.
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Right that's why they're lying to Ice agents that are being deployed to cities they don't know. They want to create a situation explosive enough that it will pop off and they can use the Insurrection Act to declare martial law and suspend elections in November. This is the actual point of all of these deployments
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100% on the dot. When it came to the National Guard, The Guard were to restrained and didn't really cause any kind of ruckus.

Now with ICE, it's been announced that due to a "clerical error" there are ICE agents being sent to the field without any training and/or incomplete training. Add to the fact that these dudes are 3 percenters, Proud Boys, and White Supremacists in uniform, they have no concern for the safety of the public.

So yea, Trump called in the right people to create enough unrest to cause commotion enough to him to invoke Martial Law and prevent voting from happening.
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Yep. Not to mention every single service person I know has completely abandoned maga.
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Lucky for you. Too many service people I know still believe in MAGA and Trump. They might say they don't agree with everything he does, but for the most part, still believe he's doing a good job. Better than Biden/Obama/Kamala.

That’s unfortunate. I’d open a dialogue. The literal situation we’re all in together is if you’re not a billionaire you don’t matter.
If we don’t put aside our differences and get a 3rd party going that actually represents the interests ALL THE PEOPLE of the world idk yo.
The planets gonna be an irradiated nightmare for generations   
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on January 15, 2026, 02:04:26 PM
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Trump is now OPENLY suggesting to Reuters how we don't need November elections.

Right-wing media is already trying to downplay it by calling it a joke.

As always, if he's saying it, he's NOT joking.
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Right that's why they're lying to Ice agents that are being deployed to cities they don't know. They want to create a situation explosive enough that it will pop off and they can use the Insurrection Act to declare martial law and suspend elections in November. This is the actual point of all of these deployments
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100% on the dot. When it came to the National Guard, The Guard were to restrained and didn't really cause any kind of ruckus.

Now with ICE, it's been announced that due to a "clerical error" there are ICE agents being sent to the field without any training and/or incomplete training. Add to the fact that these dudes are 3 percenters, Proud Boys, and White Supremacists in uniform, they have no concern for the safety of the public.

So yea, Trump called in the right people to create enough unrest to cause commotion enough to him to invoke Martial Law and prevent voting from happening.
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Yep. Not to mention every single service person I know has completely abandoned maga.
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Lucky for you. Too many service people I know still believe in MAGA and Trump. They might say they don't agree with everything he does, but for the most part, still believe he's doing a good job. Better than Biden/Obama/Kamala.
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That’s unfortunate. I’d open a dialogue. The literal situation we’re all in together is if you’re not a billionaire you don’t matter.
If we don’t put aside our differences and get a 3rd party going that actually represents the interests ALL THE PEOPLE of the world idk yo.
The planets gonna be an irradiated nightmare for generations

Sadly, I've tried.

They all listen to and become stats of the propaganda that FOX, Joe Rogan, and other "alpha male" Podcasters and "Independent Investigative Journalists" have fed them.

Look at the 1776 funds in December. Many servicemen believe that Trump gave them this from his own wealth and refuse to believe reasoning that the money was just diverted from pre-approved congressional funds allocated for Basic Housing Allowances.

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: augustmoon on January 15, 2026, 03:46:34 PM
People need to start realizing that they’re going to kill everybody.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on January 15, 2026, 06:15:51 PM
People need to start realizing that they’re going to kill everybody.

LOL. MAGA knows Trump is going to kill everyone. But they think everyone just means "Liberals" and "people of color" so they're okay with it.

It's why the "Don't Tread On Me!" party are now "Just show your papers and comply!" party.

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Nom De Plume on January 15, 2026, 07:20:09 PM
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I like to lurk on / occasionally post on a running forum I've been part of for 10+ years because I ran for sport in school. Distance running is big in rural America (though I wasn't in rural America, I would just read the forums).

I was disgusted by the ICE takes on those forums. It's niche enough where I don't think it's bots, its just the opinion of HS and college cross country coaches in Nebraska. Id sayd 50% of takes were pro-ICE / defending them, another 30% were "centrists" who would talk about whether or not its justified or analyzing shit in IMAX 1080HD60FPS or whatever, completely losing the plot.

I'm happy everyone here is logical, has common sense, and isn't beyond saving from American propaganda.


That being said, I saw a tik tok (great source, I know), of someone saying they HEARD someone else says they know yada etc x5) that the Orders ICE agents got when going to MN was that 100% of the somolis were undocumented (not true, 90% have papers, the people doing the fraud have papers), and that they have serious quotas they have to meet and are already getting desperate. And apparently the $50k bonus only hits if you don't quit for 5 years.. They're also under the impression that everyone loves them and they'll be welcome with open arms, which I believe because I guarantee they live in bubbles where their entire algorithm + TV (fox) is feeding them the garbage that made them that way.

I think this is all intentional (lying to them to provoke more violence to send a message).
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Is it Letsrun.com? That's like running's SLAP yeah?
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It is Letsrun lol. I consider it more like 4chan instead of Slap since its fully anonymous. But yes, in terms of people "taking it seriously", as in no one there is a casual runner, it's people like me who actually follow professional running or may have even considered it after going D1 or whatever.

It's good for trash talking and memes and true unfiltered opinions regarding running from true running nerds. I just never ventured to the "Unrelated", non-running threads until now.

It's a shame because my favorite t shirt is a shirt with their logo, makes me feel weird wearing it now.


Honestly some of the funniest threads I've ever read were on Letsrun. I kinda wish Slap was fully anon sometimes....it sucks 4chan /xs/ is filled with nothing but beginner skaters who aren't in the know enough to create hilarious niche jokes. Anon Slap would be insane tho...
It's interesting to hear about the environment over there and your take on that forum being more like 4Chan, hehe. I'm more familiar with that website's owners than the site itself, dated their family member for years. They're some characters. I went on the forum to see what it was about once and saw some shit pretty quick. From my experience, whole fam is good people with sound views, I wouldn't say the forum operators are coming from a pro-MAGA place, not sure if that helps. As for the posters, I don't see how you can support ICE's actions without having some kind of hate in your heart or being unforgivably ignorant.

I wish the country I live in would leave Greenland the fuck alone.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Chalupa on January 15, 2026, 11:10:35 PM
Other parts of the world have a chance against the US because people like Pege Hegseth rely on AI for strategy.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Sedition on January 15, 2026, 11:30:07 PM
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People need to start realizing that they’re going to kill everybody.
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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-threatens-invoke-insurrection-act-response-minneapolis-protests-rcna254187



All in the playbook as many have pointed out: create an authoritarian crisis, capitalize on the public disorder that results, and use the chaos as a cover to clamp down further. Next stop suspending elections under the guise of “emergency circumstances”.

Time to fully accept our worst nightmares are bearing down on us faster than expected.

Trump to Iran: Keep protesting!

Trump to America: We will shoot you in the face.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: RichardBarkley on January 16, 2026, 12:06:07 AM
China and Russia are sitting back and laughing.

Watching Trumps Putin's America turning it's back on it's ally in Europe and break up NATO.

Truly disgusting and sick.

Worrying part is no one in America seems to care.

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on January 16, 2026, 06:16:20 AM
China and Russia are sitting back and laughing.

Watching Trumps Putin's America turning it's back on it's ally in Europe and break up NATO.

Truly disgusting and sick.

Worrying part is no one in America seems to care.

It's not there aren't people who don't care, it's that the people who ARE complicit with this politically overpower and outnumber those who do.

Pam Bondi, Kash Patel, Mike Johnson, SCOTUS. They all collectively are in inscrutable positions of power which should be non-partisan and independent of party. But they all bent knee to Trump.

Dems and the very few Republicans who are trying to speak out are silenced and censured.

It's why Trump is touting the idea of not having mid-term elections. He doesn't want to upset his balance of un-yielding power.

He and Stephen Miller realized they didn't take advantage of their complete power of Congress from 2016-2018 so they're doing it now.

People care. It's just, sadly, more people in positions of higher power are fine with what's going on and helping it happen. 
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on January 16, 2026, 09:14:27 AM
IOC issued a warning if Trump keeps doing Trump things, they’ll ban Team USA from the upcoming Winter Olympics.

I personally think they should and it’d be even more hilarious if they banned Team USA in 2028 when we’re supposed to be hosting.

https://www.sportbible.com/other/ioc-olympics-donald-trump-america-175514-20260114
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on January 16, 2026, 09:56:49 PM
Look how happy the little pedophile is with his participation trophy!
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Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on January 16, 2026, 10:09:04 PM
Look how happy the little pedophile is with his participation trophy!
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The Nobel needs to officially strip Machado of it. Then immediately give it to Obama.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on January 16, 2026, 11:11:59 PM
IOC issued a warning if Trump keeps doing Trump things, they’ll ban Team USA from the upcoming Winter Olympics.

I personally think they should and it’d be even more hilarious if they banned Team USA in 2028 when we’re supposed to be hosting.

https://www.sportbible.com/other/ioc-olympics-donald-trump-america-175514-20260114


Corporate dollar will never let that happen.   Worse, I could see tht gaining him support from Americans
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on January 17, 2026, 08:17:29 AM
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IOC issued a warning if Trump keeps doing Trump things, they’ll ban Team USA from the upcoming Winter Olympics.

I personally think they should and it’d be even more hilarious if they banned Team USA in 2028 when we’re supposed to be hosting.

https://www.sportbible.com/other/ioc-olympics-donald-trump-america-175514-20260114
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Corporate dollar will never let that happen.   Worse, I could see tht gaining him support from Americans

It’s why I want to see it happen. Billionaires in Trump’s pocket are going to get him to knock it off (at least for the duration of the games) because the Olympics are huge revenue buckets from them.

As for supporters, I dunno. Even Hitler and the Nazis knew not to fuck with the games when they hosted in 1936.

And if your predictions are correct and MAGA would support us being banned by IOC in favor of Trump’s ego, we as America, would be beyond saving when it comes to international relationships.
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Post by: S. on January 17, 2026, 10:03:43 AM
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The Nobel needs to officially strip Machado of it. Then immediately give it to Obama.


It was a joke that she won the noble prize in the first place. She has supported military coups and openly advocated for the invasion of Venezuela.

Why should Obama get it? He was involved in so many wars and extrajudicial killings!

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Big Skatefase on January 17, 2026, 10:21:21 AM
https://x.com/SenBooker/status/2011795625835114641

So as the calls for ICE to be abolished from the Democratic base..........Democrat lawmakers propose body cameras and better training  (i.e. more funding) for the gestapo?

And people wonder why they keep losing....
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Post by: TastyBurrito on January 17, 2026, 10:50:50 AM
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The Nobel needs to officially strip Machado of it. Then immediately give it to Obama.
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It was a joke that she won the noble prize in the first place. She has supported military coups and openly advocated for the invasion of Venezuela.

Why should Obama get it? He was involved in so many wars and extrajudicial killings!

Giving to Obama would purely be to annoy Trump.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on January 17, 2026, 10:52:15 AM
https://x.com/SenBooker/status/2011795625835114641

So as the calls for ICE to be abolished from the Democratic base..........Democrat lawmakers propose body cameras and better training  (i.e. more funding) for the gestapo?

And people wonder why they keep losing....

Hate how Dems keep trying this “play by the rules” way. It’s not working.

Lack of cameras and training for ICE was, under this regima, a feature, not a bug.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on January 17, 2026, 10:59:16 AM
https://x.com/SenBooker/status/2011795625835114641

So as the calls for ICE to be abolished from the Democratic base..........Democrat lawmakers propose body cameras and better training  (i.e. more funding) for the gestapo?

And people wonder why they keep losing....

The comments on the video are unhinged. Absolutely insane.

What Booker does wrong is explain things. Don't explain to the public, don't worry about nuance, just make a meme and move on. Trump tells people this is good or bad and doesn't explain why. The why doesn't matter cause most of us don't know enough about a specific topic to come to a conclusion anyway. Most of us are waiting to be told what to think and then we reach for details to support that belief.

The details are just things to argue about while we are clinging to our initial feelings about a situation that was established before knowing anything past the most basic elements that signaled our side/their side.

Who the fuck is running the social media campaign for these people? Honestly, there had to be a better way to do this in 15 seconds or less. There are so many simplistic American narratives to pull from and they used none of them.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: AnimalChinaski79 on January 17, 2026, 11:29:35 AM
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The Nobel needs to officially strip Machado of it. Then immediately give it to Obama.
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Obama won his for real in 2009.


It was a joke that she won the noble prize in the first place. She has supported military coups and openly advocated for the invasion of Venezuela.

Why should Obama get it? He was involved in so many wars and extrajudicial killings!
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Giving to Obama would purely be to annoy Trump.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on January 17, 2026, 11:53:32 AM
Trump is having Pam Bondi and the DOJ launch an investigation into Renee Good’s widow.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna254038

Remember when MAGA cried that Biden was weaponizing the DOJ because Trump was investigated for Tax Fraud? Yea…
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: augustmoon on January 17, 2026, 03:39:57 PM
https://x.com/SenBooker/status/2011795625835114641

So as the calls for ICE to be abolished from the Democratic base..........Democrat lawmakers propose body cameras and better training  (i.e. more funding) for the gestapo?

And people wonder why they keep losing....

They want to lose.  They’re in on it.  This is a class war.  They’re letting it happen because all of this has already been decided; any debate is just theater. 

Those that are useful will be their servant class, those deemed a burden on the state will be deleted.  The 3 major powers are about to carve up the world in a war for resources ahead of climate collapse.  Bookmark it.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on January 17, 2026, 05:57:09 PM
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IOC issued a warning if Trump keeps doing Trump things, they’ll ban Team USA from the upcoming Winter Olympics.

I personally think they should and it’d be even more hilarious if they banned Team USA in 2028 when we’re supposed to be hosting.

https://www.sportbible.com/other/ioc-olympics-donald-trump-america-175514-20260114
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Corporate dollar will never let that happen.   Worse, I could see tht gaining him support from Americans
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It’s why I want to see it happen. Billionaires in Trump’s pocket are going to get him to knock it off (at least for the duration of the games) because the Olympics are huge revenue buckets from them.

As for supporters, I dunno. Even Hitler and the Nazis knew not to fuck with the games when they hosted in 1936.

And if your predictions are correct and MAGA would support us being banned by IOC in favor of Trump’s ego, we as America, would be beyond saving when it comes to international relationships.


I don’t even think it’s billionaires in his pocket.   Corporations have just spent a lot of money to hype up American athletes and to air and advertise th Olympics based off Americans watching Americans compete.   

I meant more that people would get behind America and as a result Trump if it were to be kicked out of the Olympics.   It’s an exercise in nationalism and people want to support their country and Trump will get that run off
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on January 17, 2026, 06:24:30 PM
So we’ve seen that Walz has the national guard on standby as well as law enforcement to get tRumps SA back inline.
Fucking poetic justice.
 I truly hope ICE gets a taste of the violence and murder they’ve been dolling out tenfold.
Will Miller have dump call in the military or will they turn tail?
Place your bets boys!
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on January 17, 2026, 08:15:29 PM
So we’ve seen that Walz has the national guard on standby as well as law enforcement to get tRumps SA back inline.
Fucking poetic justice.
 I truly hope ICE gets a taste of the violence and murder they’ve been dolling out tenfold.
Will Miller have dump call in the military or will they turn tail?
Place your bets boys!

100% Trump and Miller will call in US National Guard and use violence on American citizens. Then he will inact Martial Law. He’s already casually stated to the news that he would have no problem and lied by saying that 49% of Presidents have already used it, laying the foundation for his base to (falsely) justify him using it.

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: S. on January 18, 2026, 04:01:02 AM
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The Nobel needs to officially strip Machado of it. Then immediately give it to Obama.
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Obama won his for real in 2009.


It was a joke that she won the noble prize in the first place. She has supported military coups and openly advocated for the invasion of Venezuela.

Why should Obama get it? He was involved in so many wars and extrajudicial killings!
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Giving to Obama would purely be to annoy Trump.
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That’s a stupid reason.

There is always way too much focus on Trump. He feeds on attention and terrorizes the globe by making everything about himself! I am so fucking sick of it and I don’t even live in the US.
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The Nobel needs to officially strip Machado of it. Then immediately give it to Obama.
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Obama won his for real in 2009.


It was a joke that she won the noble prize in the first place. She has supported military coups and openly advocated for the invasion of Venezuela.

Why should Obama get it? He was involved in so many wars and extrajudicial killings!
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Giving to Obama would purely be to annoy Trump.
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That’s a stupid reason.

There is always way too much focus on Trump. He feeds on attention and terrorizes the globe by making everything about himself! I am so fucking sick of it and I don’t even live in the US.

Let me clarify, that was made in jest. Purely as a joke.

Unlike this: Trump has created a “Board of Peace” that would oversee the Gaza conflict. The kicker, he’s demanding $1 Billion in cash to join. We all know where that money is gonna end up…
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on January 18, 2026, 12:26:50 PM
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So we’ve seen that Walz has the national guard on standby as well as law enforcement to get tRumps SA back inline.
Fucking poetic justice.
 I truly hope ICE gets a taste of the violence and murder they’ve been dolling out tenfold.
Will Miller have dump call in the military or will they turn tail?
Place your bets boys!
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100% Trump and Miller will call in US National Guard and use violence on American citizens. Then he will inact Martial Law. He’s already casually stated to the news that he would have no problem and lied by saying that 49% of Presidents have already used it, laying the foundation for his base to (falsely) justify him using it.

I don’t disagree with your assessment but since Walz has called in the National Guard to police ICE as well as state police is Miller going to try and get tRump to federalize them? Will he send active military to try and carry out his will?
I know Miller and the other white nationalist cabinet members have actively been trying to create situations to enforce martial law but so far haven’t had legal reason to do it(although we all know that they’ll just make something up if necessary), so the guard members that Walz sent to police tRumps ICE stay loyal to the state government or turn to fed orders, was basically the question I was posing. Sorry if was convoluted.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on January 19, 2026, 12:17:36 AM
Threatening to take Greenland and Canada is a big problem for America and the West in general.

This can easily grow into something that takes down a very powerful mutual alliance because Trump can only think in terms of leverage and domination rather than mutual aid.

I imagine all the BRICS are excited, but no one more than China because it is going to fill the US's place in the world by building on its already established economic might/ability to produce. Trump (and Russia) are cementing this as China's century.

Venezuela is just another example of American interfering with a Latin American country that doesn't have much power in the broad scheme of things. This could become a quagmire that we get stuck dealing with, but not one that takes us down. The death of NATO on the other hand is going to change the world for everyone.

The alliance amongst the West has had some serious problems, but losing this is going to make the world a lot worse. N. America and Europe is an insanely powerful bloc and the fact that it is that is being blown up cause Peter Thiel wants Greenland and Trump is upset Canadians (technically still British) burned down the White House in 1814 is heartbreaking.

There are lots of things that were established prior to my birth that were net negatives on my life (i.e. nearly anything Reagan promoted with his neo-liberal agenda), but NATO is one thing that has made my life better. NATO has done some stupid shit, but--in general--it is not an institution I'm excited to see fall.

It really is amazing at the start of the Ukraine/Russia war is the easiest explanation of how crazy it was and how close the two were in culture was people comparing USA/Canada. Well, here we are. We are going to graduate from silly South Park Canadian jokes to real hatred real quick. I've already seen it starting, I had people complain to me about how Canadians booed the American National Anthem at some hockey game. They were so upset about the anthem being booed, but didn't give a shit about the idea of invading Canada. That was just funny.  :o
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: S. on January 19, 2026, 05:09:59 AM
Threatening to take Greenland and Canada is a big problem for America and the West in general.

This can easily grow into something that takes down a very powerful mutual alliance because Trump can only think in terms of leverage and domination rather than mutual aid.

I imagine all the BRICS are excited, but no one more than China because it is going to fill the US's place in the world by building on its already established economic might/ability to produce. Trump (and Russia) are cementing this as China's century.

Venezuela is just another example of American interfering with a Latin American country that doesn't have much power in the broad scheme of things. This could become a quagmire that we get stuck dealing with, but not one that takes us down. The death of NATO on the other hand is going to change the world for everyone.

The alliance amongst the West has had some serious problems, but losing this is going to make the world a lot worse. N. America and Europe is an insanely powerful bloc and the fact that it is that is being blown up cause Peter Thiel wants Greenland and Trump is upset Canadians (technically still British) burned down the White House in 1814 is heartbreaking.

There are lots of things that were established prior to my birth that were net negatives on my life (i.e. nearly anything Reagan promoted with his neo-liberal agenda), but NATO is one thing that has made my life better. NATO has done some stupid shit, but--in general--it is not an institution I'm excited to see fall.

It really is amazing at the start of the Ukraine/Russia war is the easiest explanation of how crazy it was and how close the two were in culture was people comparing USA/Canada. Well, here we are. We are going to graduate from silly South Park Canadian jokes to real hatred real quick. I've already seen it starting, I had people complain to me about how Canadians booed the American National Anthem at some hockey game. They were so upset about the anthem being booed, but didn't give a shit about the idea of invading Canada. That was just funny.  :o


I have criticized NATO and its wars a lot, but as a German I don’t want NATO to end either. Thanks to Trump‘s and Putin‘s imperialism we are already in the process of bringing back mandatory military service. I don’t want my son to have to serve a year or possibly even fight a war. Europe is already building up its military. Germany will invest 200 billion in its defense. We desperately need investment in education and transportation, but instead we get 200 Billion Euros for Tanks and technology that in a best case scenario will rot in a warehouse somewhere.

The US profits greatly from its relations to Europe. The EU is the world‘s most important market. Trump loves to Stress Trade deficits, but even his calculations are bullshit. For example Germany does export much more goods to the US than the US to Germany, but the US exports a lot of important services to Germany (especially in the online sector). Trump never includes services in his calculations. This makes the deficit smaller.

Trump‘s strategy will be terrible in the long run. The EU will shift some of its trades to China and if NATO breaks up, the EU will further invest in defense and the US will lose a major influence on the EU, because it won’t rely as much on the US for its defense.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Chalupa on January 19, 2026, 06:44:19 AM
It’s takes 3-5 minutes to read but is worth it.
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The Last Election
The presidential election in 2024 may be the last free vote taken in the United States. Dictatorships only hold elections with predetermined outcomes or do not hold them at all. Trump is no exception.
CHRIS HEDGES
JAN 19

Donald Trump’s threat to cancel the midterm elections is not a feign. He attempted to overturn the results of the 2020 election and said he would not accept the outcome of the 2024 election if he lost. He ruminates about defying the Constitution to serve a third term. He is determined to retain absolute control — buttressed by an obsequious Republican majority — in Congress. He fears, if he loses control of Congress, impeachment. He fears impediments to the rapid reconfiguration of America as an authoritarian state. He fears losing the monuments he is building to himself — his name emblazoned on federal buildings, including the Kennedy Center, his scrapping of free entry to National Parks on Martin Luther King Jr. Day and replacing it with his own birthday, his seizure of Greenland and who knows, maybe Canada, his ability to put cities, such as Minneapolis, under siege and snatch legal residents off the streets.

Dictators love elections as long as they are fixed. The dictatorships I covered in Latin America, the Middle East, Africa, and the Balkans staged highly choreographed election spectacles. These spectacles were a cynical prop whose outcome was preordained. They were used to legitimize iron control over a captive population, mask the enrichment of the dictator, his family and his inner circle, criminalize all dissent and ban opposition political parties in the name of “the will of the people.”

When Saddam Hussein held a presidential referendum in Oct. 1995, the only question on the ballot was “Do you approve of President Saddam Hussein being the President of the Republic?” Voters marked ‘yes’ or ‘no.’ The official results saw Hussein win 99.96 percent of some 8.4 million votes cast. Turnout was reported at 99.47 percent. His counterpart in Egypt, the former general Hosni Mubarak, in 2005 was re-elected for a fifth consecutive six-year term with a more modest mandate of 88.6 percent of the vote. My less than reverential coverage of the elections held in Syria in 1991, where there was only one candidate on the ballot, President Hafez al-Assad, who reportedly got 99.9 percent of the vote, saw me banned from the country.

These spectacles are the model, I expect, for what comes next, unless Trump gets his deepest wish, which is to emulate Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman of Saudi Arabia — whose security detail assassinated my colleague and friend Jamal Khashoggi in 2018 in the Saudi consulate in Istanbul — and hold no elections at all.

Wannabe president-for-life Trump floats the idea of canceling the 2026 midterm elections, telling Reuters that, “when you think of it, we shouldn’t even have an election.” When President Volodymyr Zelensky informed Trump elections were not held in Ukraine because of the war, Trump gushed, “So you mean if we happen to be in a war with somebody, no more elections? Oh, that’s good.”

Trump told The New York Times he regrets not directing the National Guard to seize voting machines after the 2020 election. He wants to abolish mail-in voting, along with voting machines and tabulators, which allow boards of elections to post results on election night. Better to slow the process down and like the Chicago political machine under Mayor Richard J. Daley, stuff boxes with ballots after the polls close to ensure victory.

Trump’s administration is prohibiting voter registration drives at naturalization centers. It is imposing nation-wide restrictive voter ID laws. It is reducing the hours that federal employees have to leave work and vote. In Texas, the new redistricting map blatantly disenfranchises Black and Latino voters, a move upheld by the Supreme Court. It is expected to eradicate five Congressional Democratic seats.

Our money-drenched elections, coupled with aggressive gerrymandering, mean few races for Congress are competitive. Recent redistricting has, so far, all but guaranteed the Republicans another nine seats in Texas, Missouri, North Carolina, and Ohio and six for the Democrats, five in California and one in Utah. Republicans intend to carry out more redistricting in Florida and Democrats plan a redistricting ballot initiative in Virginia. If the Supreme Court continues to gut the Voting Rights Act, then Republican redistricting will explode, possibly cementing into place a Republican victory whether the majority of voters want it or not. No one can call redistricting democratic.

The Supreme Court’s ruling in Citizens United took from us any real input into elections. Citizens United permitted unlimited money from corporations and wealthy individuals to rig the election process in the name of protected speech under the First Amendment. It ruled that heavily financed and organized lobbying by large corporations is an application of the people’s right to petition their government.

Our most basic rights, including the freedom from wholesale government surveillance, have been steadily revoked by judicial and legislative fiat.

The “consent of the governed” is a cruel joke.

There are few substantial differences between the Democrats and Republicans. They exist to provide the illusion of representative democracy. The Democrats and their liberal apologists adopt tolerant positions on issues regarding race, religion, immigration, women’s rights and sexual identity, and pretend this is politics. The right wing uses those on the margins of society — especially immigrants and the phantom “radical left” — as scapegoats. But on all the major issues — war, trade deals, austerity, militarized police, the vast carceral state and deindustrialization — they are in lockstep.

“One cannot point to any national institution(s) that can accurately be described as democratic,” the political philosopher Sheldon Wolin noted in his book “Democracy Incorporated,” “surely not in the highly managed, money-saturated elections, the lobby-infested Congress, the imperial presidency, the class-biased judicial and penal system, or, least of all, the media.”

Wolin called our system of governance “inverted totalitarianism.” It paid outward fealty to the façade of electoral politics, the Constitution, civil liberties, freedom of the press, the independence of the judiciary, and the iconography, traditions and language of American patriotism, while it allowed corporations and oligarchs to effectively seize all of the mechanisms of power to render the citizen impotent.

The emptiness of the political landscape under “inverted totalitarianism” saw politics merge with entertainment. It fostered a ceaseless political burlesque, a politics without politics. The subject of empire, along with unregulated corporate power, endless war, poverty and social inequality, became taboo.

These political spectacles create manufactured political personalities, Trump’s fictitious persona, a product of “The Apprentice.” They thrive on empty rhetoric, sophisticated public relations, slick advertising, propaganda and the constant use of focus groups and opinion polls to loop back to voters what they want to hear. The vapid, issueless and celebrity-driven presidential campaign of Kamala Harris was a sterling example of this political performance art.

The assault on democracy, carried out by the two ruling parties, set the stage for Trump. They emasculated our democratic institutions, stripped us of our most basic rights and cemented into place the machinery of authoritarian control, including the imperial presidency. All Trump had to do was flick the switch.

The indiscriminate police violence familiar in poor urban communities, where militarized police serve as judge, jury and executioner, long ago handed the state the power to “legally” harass and kill citizens with impunity. It spawned the largest prison population in the world. This evisceration of civil liberties and due process has now been turned on the rest of us. Trump did not initiate it. He expanded it. Terror is the point.

Trump, like all dictators, is intoxicated by militarism. He is calling for the Pentagon’s budget to be raised from $1 trillion to $1.5 trillion. Congress, in passing Trump’s One Big Beautiful Act, has allocated more than $170 billion for border and interior enforcement, including $75 billion for ICE over the next four years. That is more than the yearly budget for all local and state law enforcement agencies combined.

“When a constitutionally limited government utilizes weapons of horrendous destructive power, subsidizes their development, and becomes the world’s largest arms dealer,” Wolin writes, “the Constitution is conscripted to serve as power’s apprentice rather than its conscience.”

He goes on:

That the patriotic citizen unswervingly supports the military and its huge budget means that conservatives have succeeded in persuading the public that the military is distinct from government. Thus, the most substantial element of state power is removed from public debate. Similarly, in his/her new status as imperial citizen the believer remains contemptuous of bureaucracy yet does not hesitate to obey the directives issued by the Department of Homeland Security, the largest and most intrusive governmental department in the history of the nation. Identification with militarism and patriotism, along with the images of American might projected by the media, serves to make the individual citizen feel stronger, thereby compensating for the feelings of weakness visited by the economy upon an overworked, exhausted, and insecure labor force.

The Democrats in the next election — if there is one — will offer up least-worst alternatives while doing little or nothing to thwart the march toward authoritarianism. They will remain hostage to the demands of corporate lobbyists and oligarchs. The party, which stands for nothing and fights for nothing, could well hand Trump a victory in the midterms. But Trump does not want to take that chance.

Trump and his minions are energetically closing the last exit built into the system that prevents absolute dictatorship. They intend to orchestrate the sham elections familiar in all dictatorships, or abolish them. They are not joking. This will be the death blow to the American experiment. There will be no going back. We will become a police state. Our freedoms, already under heavy assault, will be extinguished. At that point, only mass mobilizations and strikes will thwart the solidification of the dictatorship. And such actions, as we see in Minneapolis, will be greeted with lethal state repression.

The subverting of the next elections will offer two stark choices to Trump’s most vocal opponents. Exile or arrest and imprisonment at the hands of ICE thugs.

Resistance to the beast, as in all dictatorships, will come at a very high cost.

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President Donald Trump sent a a letter on Jan 18 to Norwegian Prime Minister Jonas Gahr Støre in which complained about not winning the Nobel Peace Prize, saying he no longer will think “purely of Peace” as a result. Trump went on to assert that only a “Complete and Total Control of Greenland” by the U.S. could keep the world “secure."

Trump’s letter was first reported by PBS journalist Nick Schifrin in an X post, was later confirmed by Støre to the Norwegian outlet VG.

“Considering your Country decided not to give me the Nobel Peace Prize for having stopped 8 Wars PLUS, I no longer feel an obligation to think purely of Peace, although it will always be predominant, but can now think about what is good and proper for the United States of America,” the letter says.

Støre told VG that the letter came in response to a short message earlier in the day from him and the President of Finland, Alexander Stubb.

"I have done more for NATO than any other person since its founding, and now, NATO should do something for the United States. The World is not secure unless we have Complete and Total Control of Greenland," the letter says.

Greenland is an autonomous territory within the Kingdom of Denmark. Trump has said acquiring the territory is essential to U.S. national security and to "protect" it from Russia and China.

President Donald Trump is interviewed by Reuters White House correspondent Steve Holland (not pictured) in the Oval Office on Jan. 14, 2026.
Støre on Jan. 17,pushed back on Trump's insistence that U.S. should control Greenland, saying.

"Threats have no place among allies. Norway's position is firm: Greenland is part of the Kingdom of Denmark. Norway fully supports the sovereignty of the Kingdom of Denmark," he wrote on X. "There is broad agreement in NATO on the need to strengthen security in the Arctic, including in Greenland."

Meanwhile, Trump announced on Jan. 17 that a 10% tariff would be imposed on all goods sent to the U.S. from Denmark, Norway, Sweden, France, Germany, the U.K., the Netherlands and Finland unless “a Deal is reached for the Complete and Total purchase of Greenland.”

European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen and President of the European Council Antonio Costa issued a statement on Jan. 17 saying "Territorial integrity and sovereignty are fundamental principles of international law" and adding that the EU “stands in full solidarity with Denmark and the people of Greenland.”
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: AnimalChinaski79 on January 19, 2026, 10:03:34 AM
Chris Hedges is a national treasure.  Too bad most people don't know who he is. 
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Canuck on January 20, 2026, 01:37:39 PM
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Threatening to take Greenland and Canada is a big problem for America and the West in general.

This can easily grow into something that takes down a very powerful mutual alliance because Trump can only think in terms of leverage and domination rather than mutual aid.

I imagine all the BRICS are excited, but no one more than China because it is going to fill the US's place in the world by building on its already established economic might/ability to produce. Trump (and Russia) are cementing this as China's century.

Venezuela is just another example of American interfering with a Latin American country that doesn't have much power in the broad scheme of things. This could become a quagmire that we get stuck dealing with, but not one that takes us down. The death of NATO on the other hand is going to change the world for everyone.

The alliance amongst the West has had some serious problems, but losing this is going to make the world a lot worse. N. America and Europe is an insanely powerful bloc and the fact that it is that is being blown up cause Peter Thiel wants Greenland and Trump is upset Canadians (technically still British) burned down the White House in 1814 is heartbreaking.

There are lots of things that were established prior to my birth that were net negatives on my life (i.e. nearly anything Reagan promoted with his neo-liberal agenda), but NATO is one thing that has made my life better. NATO has done some stupid shit, but--in general--it is not an institution I'm excited to see fall.

It really is amazing at the start of the Ukraine/Russia war is the easiest explanation of how crazy it was and how close the two were in culture was people comparing USA/Canada. Well, here we are. We are going to graduate from silly South Park Canadian jokes to real hatred real quick. I've already seen it starting, I had people complain to me about how Canadians booed the American National Anthem at some hockey game. They were so upset about the anthem being booed, but didn't give a shit about the idea of invading Canada. That was just funny.  :o
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I don’t want my son to have to serve a year or possibly even fight a war. Europe is already building up its military. Germany will invest 200 billion in its defense. We desperately need investment in education and transportation, but instead we get 200 Billion Euros for Tanks and technology that in a best case scenario will rot in a warehouse somewhere.

This. I can't believe how shitty and dog eat dog our world still is.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Chalupa on January 21, 2026, 03:06:45 PM
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Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: h00man on January 22, 2026, 07:58:50 PM
US has officially withdrawn from WHO:

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/us-officially-exits-world-health-organization-accusing-agency/story?id=129455089

Literally the only country to withdraw lmao were so fucked
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on January 22, 2026, 08:11:54 PM
Legit, should a Democrat get back into office in 2028, what are the realistic chances that we can get back into WHO and the good graces of our EU allies, NATO, and the UN?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: EdLawndale on January 22, 2026, 08:59:16 PM
See, a main part of the problem of re-electing this guy, and letting him cook the books now, is that he is attempting to change the narrative and portray himself as a victim in situations where he was clearly the villain (i.e. January 6). Case in point, this $5B lawsuit he has filed against JPMorgan Chase. It's really disheartening.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: GnarAlarm on January 23, 2026, 05:25:43 AM
Legit, should a Democrat get back into office in 2028, what are the realistic chances that we can get back into WHO and the good graces of our EU allies, NATO, and the UN?

All bullshit aside, I would think they'd strongly prefer us to be allies. There would be growing pains to be sure but I'd think we could re-up with them relatively smoothly if all the scum was banished and reasonable adults were in charge again.

Here's hoping we have elections and if we do here's hoping they're not rigged...
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: RichardBarkley on January 23, 2026, 09:01:33 AM
Did anyone watch his Davos speech?

Actually laughable how fucking stupid he is. He kept calling Greenland... Iceland and saying he was the big daddy.

Fucking stupid cunt.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on January 23, 2026, 09:17:56 AM
Did anyone watch his Davos speech?

Actually laughable how fucking stupid he is. He kept calling Greenland... Iceland and saying he was the big daddy.

Fucking stupid cunt.

There’s even worse than that, he basically kept insulting world leaders there by telling them “you’re not as good as us.” Making claims that we defeated food poverty (more so just kicking people off food benefits), lying about raising our quality of living and taking down inflation single handedly, cut federal spending (he raised our debt again), and defeating clean energy over his clean-burning coal and oil (doesn’t exist). All before telling them how their countries basically did nothing for us (we are the only ones to enact Article 5 of NATO Treaty).

While he is dumb for calling Greenland Iceland, he spent more time insulting allies and world leaders at what is basically a peace summit to talk about improving the world together.

Again, why I poised the question of whether our relationships with these countries can be saved? Because even if we get another Dem in the White House, these countries know the other half of our nation is still filled with hateful morons who will make it their mission to once again alienate them and isolate the country from the rest of the world.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: devils acrobat on January 23, 2026, 10:03:19 AM
Legit, should a Democrat get back into office in 2028, what are the realistic chances that we can get back into WHO and the good graces of our EU allies, NATO, and the UN?

In my limited political understanding I would assume 'we' (the EU) would let out a big sigh of relief and welcome 'you' back rightaway. That is, if we havent imploded by then due to destabilizing actions by rightwing parties which we helped into power by democratic elections.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: RichardBarkley on January 23, 2026, 01:01:32 PM
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Legit, should a Democrat get back into office in 2028, what are the realistic chances that we can get back into WHO and the good graces of our EU allies, NATO, and the UN?
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In my limited political understanding I would assume 'we' (the EU) would let out a big sigh of relief and welcome 'you' back rightaway. That is, if we havent imploded by then due to destabilizing actions by rightwing parties which we helped into power by democratic elections.

Would we ?

All it takes is 4 years for the tide to turn again and any positive changes be reversed.

US has shown its not a credible partner and honestly this could take decades to fix.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Billy Bitchcakes on January 23, 2026, 02:08:08 PM
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Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on January 23, 2026, 05:48:12 PM
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Legit, should a Democrat get back into office in 2028, what are the realistic chances that we can get back into WHO and the good graces of our EU allies, NATO, and the UN?
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In my limited political understanding I would assume 'we' (the EU) would let out a big sigh of relief and welcome 'you' back rightaway. That is, if we havent imploded by then due to destabilizing actions by rightwing parties which we helped into power by democratic elections.
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Would we ?

All it takes is 4 years for the tide to turn again and any positive changes be reversed.

US has shown its not a credible partner and honestly this could take decades to fix.

Sadly this is completely correct. I can’t blame any other nation for saying it either. We’re being controlled by a Russian asshat and everything he’s doing is only helping Russia and China gain power. Only cost Putin a few trolls astroturfing and a couple thousand bots. Fucking pathetic.

Well all know ICE has orders to illegally enter homes now right? Think that was unintentional? Nope they want one of their SA to get shot so they can declare martial law. Let’s not forget they’re kidnapping literal children:
(https://i.postimg.cc/fR0NTkVB/IMG-6406.png) (https://postimg.cc/jDK9MxQ7)
https://apnews.com/article/immigration-minnesota-boy-father-detained-342f319fafb766d13afe07f5bcc1f112

Explain how we’re not the fucking evil power here. I guess the kid was out murdering rich whites and selling drugs? Maybe he made fun of JD Prance or dRumphs dancing? Burning flags? Blood thirsty gang member?
Fuck this shit.

@devils acrobat hopefully shit works better for your country than it did with ours. Stay strong and have a plan if it doesn’t.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on January 23, 2026, 06:22:06 PM
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Legit, should a Democrat get back into office in 2028, what are the realistic chances that we can get back into WHO and the good graces of our EU allies, NATO, and the UN?
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In my limited political understanding I would assume 'we' (the EU) would let out a big sigh of relief and welcome 'you' back rightaway. That is, if we havent imploded by then due to destabilizing actions by rightwing parties which we helped into power by democratic elections.
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Would we ?

All it takes is 4 years for the tide to turn again and any positive changes be reversed.

US has shown its not a credible partner and honestly this could take decades to fix.
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Well all know ICE has orders to illegally enter homes now right? Think that was unintentional? Nope they want one of their SA to get shot so they can declare martial law. Let’s not forget they’re kidnapping literal children:


This. Trump is looking for any and all ways to label those who protest as Domestic Terrorists and incite Martial Law.

When an ICE Agent is shot barging through the door, it's going to be a BIG Constitutional debate when it comes to 2A. Because when someone is arrested and charged for murder when they're protecting their house from masked people who don't announce themselves before breaking down your door, does the 2nd Amendment exist anymore.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on January 23, 2026, 06:37:05 PM
I’ve been saying to the 2A fanatics that he’s going to be the one who takes your weapons. Dictators don’t want an armed populace.
 It’s funny when it happens to others but they don’t bother to think it’s going to happen to them as well. People don’t have critical thinking skills any long unfortunately.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DTs_T4uEWzX/?igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==
Sorry I’m to stupid to embed.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on January 23, 2026, 07:50:18 PM
I’ve been saying to the 2A fanatics that he’s going to be the one who takes your weapons. Dictators don’t want an armed populace.
 It’s funny when it happens to others but they don’t bother to think it’s going to happen to them as well. People don’t have critical thinking skills any long unfortunately.


This 100%. For the party that fought to give felons and people who have history of domestic violence and FBI flags their guns back under the premise that taking them away goes against their constitutional rights, they openly suggested banning trans people from owning them under the guise of mental health risks as well as people who regularly smoke weed.

It's not that they don't want an armed populace, they don't want people who aren't blindly loyal to them to own guns.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: devils acrobat on January 24, 2026, 05:05:06 AM
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@devils acrobat hopefully shit works better for your country than it did with ours. Stay strong and have a plan if it doesn’t.

Thanks man, our political system is less focused on one person and also we dont have a de facto two party democracy which should help. But then, historical precedents have shown how quickly it can change.

Your point about having a plan got me triggered. Because I dont have one. Wanna share yours? Oftentimes I feel so powerless looking at the world.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Chalupa on January 24, 2026, 08:26:40 AM
http://www.instagram.com/reel/DT5l7rfjbtT/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

The KKK is executing people for fun.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on January 24, 2026, 11:34:25 AM
http://www.instagram.com/reel/DT5l7rfjbtT/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

The KKK is executing people for fun.

DHS was quick to start calling him a terrorist, using an illegal gun (he has a proper permit), and a criminal. Ruining his public image so it’s easier to justify his murder.

Fucking sickening how fast the lies spread.

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Candied cigarettes on January 24, 2026, 12:26:24 PM
With all the completely fucked up shit happening in the twin cities recently (another horrific shooting this morning literally blocks from where i used to live), i’m so proud to see twin cities showing up for their community and braving it out despite it being dangerous and brutally cold.

Stay safe out there twin cities pals ❤️
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: I-am-12 on January 24, 2026, 12:27:35 PM
Anything less than a full blown general strike, covid style, is useless.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: GardenSkater77 on January 24, 2026, 12:37:41 PM
With all the completely fucked up shit happening in the twin cities recently (another horrific shooting this morning literally blocks from where i used to live), i’m so proud to see twin cities showing up for their community and braving it out despite it being dangerous and brutally cold.

Stay safe out there twin cities pals ❤️

I was thinking this yesterday when the cold was arctic but thousands of people were out there standing up for America against very scary (murderous) individuals. I think these images may be as significant as the civil rights period of the 60s. I hope this is enough to move us past this Trump garbage and into a better future. Thank you people of MN. You are caring folk.

New shooting videos:

https://www.nbcnews.com/video/video-appears-to-show-shooting-involving-federal-agents-in-minneapolis-256521285546

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GtwLEObh77o
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: h00man on January 24, 2026, 12:56:14 PM
fuck this place. Were all fucked.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: AnimalChinaski79 on January 24, 2026, 01:31:54 PM
Yesterday I just filled out my application for a handgun permit.  2nd Amendment while we still have it. 
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: whale on January 24, 2026, 01:41:15 PM
This is just plain horrible and heartbreaking to see.
Came back to reddit to see what people were saying and was disqusted on a lot of the commentary defending those ICE agents.

Really scared about the state of the world my son has to grow up in.

Stay safe Pals.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: augustmoon on January 24, 2026, 01:55:55 PM
They just killed a guy for exercising his 2nd amendment rights legally


They’re coming for the guns and they don’t care who knows it

And all the 2A dipshits are gonna “well ackshually” this all day long.  Truth is they don’t think that 2A applies to anybody but them, and now they don’t care to pretend that they don’t

I guarantee they were under a directive to kill and make an example of a “leftist” they found legally carrying.

They all think they’re gonna be the ones pointing their barrels at those of us standing on the edge of the pit
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on January 24, 2026, 02:00:10 PM
Yesterday I just filled out my application for a handgun permit.  2nd Amendment while we still have it.

Same.


And all the 2A dipshits are gonna “well ackshually” this all day long. 
I guarantee they were under a directive to kill and make an example of a “leftist” they found legally carrying.

All the “Don’t Tread on Me!” folk suddenly became the “If you just comply with authority” party very quickly.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: augustmoon on January 24, 2026, 02:53:11 PM
We are heading very quickly to our generstion’s “Boston Massacre” moment.  I think we will see a large scale killing of protestors by Summer. How the public reacts will seal the fate of this country. 
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on January 24, 2026, 03:24:28 PM
We are heading very quickly to our generstion’s “Boston Massacre” moment.  I think we will see a large scale killing of protestors by Summer. How the public reacts will seal the fate of this country.

I guarantee Stephen Miller and Greg Bovino want to out do the modern horrors of Kent State. They want to make examples of protestors.

Which leads me to the point that it’s wild how MAGA hates protestors more than pedophiles.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: noxiousPond on January 24, 2026, 03:26:22 PM
We have a bad snow storm coming. Should’ve bought some American flags to burn so I can keep warm if we lose power…. Fuck this country.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on January 24, 2026, 03:35:48 PM
We have a bad snow storm coming. Should’ve bought some American flags to burn so I can keep warm if we lose power…. Fuck this country.

You know it’s gonna be bad because Ted Cruz ran off to our “failed state” of California to enjoy our warm weather.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: camel filters on January 24, 2026, 04:22:54 PM
Crazy how 5 dudes pinned down one guy (you can see one of them disarm the guy) on the ground and still felt "threatened."

I see the right use "don't break the law and there will be no trouble." People who blindly base their morality on what is legal has always been protected by the law and can't fathom a world where it makes complete moral sense to resist.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: AnimalChinaski79 on January 24, 2026, 04:24:30 PM
I'm so physically and mentally exhausted everyday from all of this.  I wake up and my anxiety and tension just gets worse as the day goes on and by the end of the day my fucking shoulders feel like i've been carrying five gallon buckets of rocks all day.  I'm fucking pissed.  I have a 16 year old kid and I can't believe this is the shit her and every other kid is going to inherit.  I'm drained.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: EdLawndale on January 24, 2026, 05:39:49 PM
The fucked shit is that, if Martial Law were to be enacted, it literally all stems from a situation he has created entirely. There was absolutely no serious problems until he started this whole attempt at a dictatorship.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: munchbox on January 24, 2026, 07:13:47 PM
The fucked shit is that, if Martial Law were to be enacted, it literally all stems from a situation he has created entirely. There was absolutely no serious problems until he started this whole attempt at a dictatorship.
i get what you mean
the project is still going as planned

but “absolutely no serious problems” is farcical
that kind of rhetoric led us to where we are today

is it all serious now? and not for the last decade?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: midnitecruiser on January 24, 2026, 08:16:22 PM
I'm so physically and mentally exhausted everyday from all of this.  I wake up and my anxiety and tension just gets worse as the day goes on and by the end of the day my fucking shoulders feel like i've been carrying five gallon buckets of rocks all day.  I'm fucking pissed.  I have a 16 year old kid and I can't believe this is the shit her and every other kid is going to inherit.  I'm drained.

Stay strong dude. You’re not the only one who feels that way and I’m sure your daughter knows how lucky she is to have you
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: ToySanta on January 24, 2026, 08:22:22 PM
People need to start realizing that they’re going to kill everybody.

This is what I’ve been saying for a long time and nobody wanted to listen. Even if it’s not the plan, it’s the byproduct. They executed two average-enough white folks just for being outside and they’re kidnapping citizens. Goons with guns don’t discriminate. ICE or whomever is not gonna stop and ask if you’re on their side, they’re just gonna start firing.

I honestly haven’t stayed ready since 20212-ish, protest-wise, so I need to get ready and get active.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on January 24, 2026, 09:45:24 PM
I'm so physically and mentally exhausted everyday from all of this.  I wake up and my anxiety and tension just gets worse as the day goes on and by the end of the day my fucking shoulders feel like i've been carrying five gallon buckets of rocks all day.  I'm fucking pissed.  I have a 16 year old kid and I can't believe this is the shit her and every other kid is going to inherit.  I'm drained.

I’m exhausted too. Waking up to new shit of how Orangina, Couch Fucker, and all of MAGA are removing our rights, impeding on our pursuit of happiness, and alienating the world.

All while seeing people smile and cheer on these atrocities. Just once, I’d like to wake up to the news not having anything to report on from this administration.

It’s a daily mental fuck that affects all the other stresses in my life.

Even though I just want to sit back, say “fuck it,” and welcome the end, I can’t. I know that’s what this administration wants and I’m not going to give it to em.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: EdLawndale on January 24, 2026, 10:42:13 PM
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The fucked shit is that, if Martial Law were to be enacted, it literally all stems from a situation he has created entirely. There was absolutely no serious problems until he started this whole attempt at a dictatorship.
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i get what you mean
the project is still going as planned

but “absolutely no serious problems” is farcical
that kind of rhetoric led us to where we are today

is it all serious now? and not for the last decade?

There were no problems in Democrat-led cities that, on any level, required the National Guard and squadrons of ICE agents. That was purely inflammatory on the part of the administration.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: munchbox on January 24, 2026, 11:08:49 PM
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The fucked shit is that, if Martial Law were to be enacted, it literally all stems from a situation he has created entirely. There was absolutely no serious problems until he started this whole attempt at a dictatorship.
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i get what you mean
the project is still going as planned

but “absolutely no serious problems” is farcical
that kind of rhetoric led us to where we are today

is it all serious now? and not for the last decade?
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There were no problems in Democrat-led cities that, on any level, required the National Guard and squadrons of ICE agents. That was purely inflammatory on the part of the administration.
thank you for clearing that up
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: camel filters on January 25, 2026, 12:33:11 AM
I'm so physically and mentally exhausted everyday from all of this.  I wake up and my anxiety and tension just gets worse as the day goes on and by the end of the day my fucking shoulders feel like i've been carrying five gallon buckets of rocks all day.  I'm fucking pissed.  I have a 16 year old kid and I can't believe this is the shit her and every other kid is going to inherit.  I'm drained.
Your daughter also inherits the immediate community you foster around your daily lives. Fill her space with friends and family that will care for each other. You also pass down your character and how you treat others yourself. Its a rough world but that is not all you are leaving your child. Stay well.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: swongolianbbq on January 25, 2026, 01:02:51 AM
Each act, each occasion, is worse than the last, but only a little worse. You wait for the next and the next. You wait for one great shocking occasion, thinking that others, when such a shock comes, will join with you in resisting somehow. You don’t want to act, or even talk alone; you don’t want to “go out of your way to make trouble.” Why not?—Well, you are not in the habit of doing it. And it is not just fear, fear of standing alone, that restrains you; it is also genuine uncertainty.


Uncertainty is a very important factor, and, instead of decreasing as time goes on, it grows. Outside, in the streets, in the general community, “everyone” is happy. One hears no protest, and certainly sees none. You speak privately to your colleagues, some of whom certainly feel as you do; but what do they say? They say, “It’s not so bad” or “You’re seeing things” or “You’re an alarmist.”


And you are an alarmist. You are saying that this must lead to that, and you can’t prove it. These are the beginnings, yes; but how do you know for sure when you don’t know the end, and how do you know, or even surmise, the end? On the one hand, your enemies, the law, the regime, the Party, intimidate you. On the other, your colleagues pooh-pooh you as pessimistic or even neurotic. You are left with your close friends, who are, naturally, people who have always thought as you have.


But your friends are fewer now. Some have drifted off somewhere or submerged themselves in their work. You no longer see as many as you did at meetings or gatherings. Now, in small gatherings of your oldest friends, you feel that you are talking to yourselves, that you are isolated from the reality of things. This weakens your confidence still further and serves as a further deterrent to—to what? It is clearer all the time that, if you are going to do anything, you must make an occasion to do it, and then are obviously a troublemaker. So you wait, and you wait.


But the one great shocking occasion, when tens or hundreds of thousands will join with you, never comes. That’s the difficulty. If the last and worst act of the whole regime had come immediately after the first and smallest, thousands, yes, millions, would have been sufficiently shocked—if, let us say, the gassing of the Jews in ’43 had come immediately after the “German Firm” stickers on the windows of non-Jewish shops in ’33. But of course this isn’t the way it happens. In between come all of the hundreds of little steps, some of them imperceptible, each of them preparing you not to be shocked by the next. Step C is not so much worse than Step B, and, if you did not make a stand at Step B, why should you at Step C? And so on to Step D.


And one day, too late, your principles, if you were ever sensible of them, all rush in upon you. The burden of self-deception has grown too heavy, and some minor incident, in my case my little boy, hardly more than a baby, saying “Jewish swine,” collapses it all at once, and you see that everything has changed and changed completely under your nose. The world you live in—your nation, your people—is not the world you were born in at all. The forms are all there, all untouched, all reassuring, the houses, the shops, the jobs, the mealtimes, the visits, the concerts, the cinema, the holidays. But the spirit, which you never noticed because you made the lifelong mistake of identifying it with the forms, is changed. Now you live in a world of hate and fear, and the people who hate and fear do not even know it themselves; when everyone is transformed, no one is transformed. Now you live in a system which rules without responsibility even to God. The system itself could not have intended this in the beginning, but in order to sustain itself it was compelled to go all the way.


Suddenly it all comes down, all at once. You see what you are, what you have done, or, more accurately, what you haven’t done (for that was all that was required of most of us: that we do nothing). You remember those early morning meetings of your department when, if one had stood, others would have stood, perhaps, but no one stood. A small matter, a matter of hiring this man or that, and you hired this one rather than that. You remember everything now, and your heart breaks. Too late. You are compromised beyond repair.


Except from They Thought They Were Free: The Germans 1933-45 - A nonfiction book from 1955 by Milton Mayer, consisting of interviews with ordinary German citizens after WWII
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: AnimalChinaski79 on January 25, 2026, 05:03:15 AM
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I'm so physically and mentally exhausted everyday from all of this.  I wake up and my anxiety and tension just gets worse as the day goes on and by the end of the day my fucking shoulders feel like i've been carrying five gallon buckets of rocks all day.  I'm fucking pissed.  I have a 16 year old kid and I can't believe this is the shit her and every other kid is going to inherit.  I'm drained.
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Your daughter also inherits the immediate community you foster around your daily lives. Fill her space with friends and family that will care for each other. You also pass down your character and how you treat others yourself. Its a rough world but that is not all you are leaving your child. Stay well.

Well said, thanks brother!


I watch this dude on Youtube and he brought up the theory that Trump will have a few ICE Agents killed on purpose to just fuel his agenda even further.  It makes sense. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKBCNCtH7Kw
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: AnimalChinaski79 on January 25, 2026, 05:04:30 AM
Each act, each occasion, is worse than the last, but only a little worse. You wait for the next and the next. You wait for one great shocking occasion, thinking that others, when such a shock comes, will join with you in resisting somehow. You don’t want to act, or even talk alone; you don’t want to “go out of your way to make trouble.” Why not?—Well, you are not in the habit of doing it. And it is not just fear, fear of standing alone, that restrains you; it is also genuine uncertainty.


Uncertainty is a very important factor, and, instead of decreasing as time goes on, it grows. Outside, in the streets, in the general community, “everyone” is happy. One hears no protest, and certainly sees none. You speak privately to your colleagues, some of whom certainly feel as you do; but what do they say? They say, “It’s not so bad” or “You’re seeing things” or “You’re an alarmist.”


And you are an alarmist. You are saying that this must lead to that, and you can’t prove it. These are the beginnings, yes; but how do you know for sure when you don’t know the end, and how do you know, or even surmise, the end? On the one hand, your enemies, the law, the regime, the Party, intimidate you. On the other, your colleagues pooh-pooh you as pessimistic or even neurotic. You are left with your close friends, who are, naturally, people who have always thought as you have.


But your friends are fewer now. Some have drifted off somewhere or submerged themselves in their work. You no longer see as many as you did at meetings or gatherings. Now, in small gatherings of your oldest friends, you feel that you are talking to yourselves, that you are isolated from the reality of things. This weakens your confidence still further and serves as a further deterrent to—to what? It is clearer all the time that, if you are going to do anything, you must make an occasion to do it, and then are obviously a troublemaker. So you wait, and you wait.


But the one great shocking occasion, when tens or hundreds of thousands will join with you, never comes. That’s the difficulty. If the last and worst act of the whole regime had come immediately after the first and smallest, thousands, yes, millions, would have been sufficiently shocked—if, let us say, the gassing of the Jews in ’43 had come immediately after the “German Firm” stickers on the windows of non-Jewish shops in ’33. But of course this isn’t the way it happens. In between come all of the hundreds of little steps, some of them imperceptible, each of them preparing you not to be shocked by the next. Step C is not so much worse than Step B, and, if you did not make a stand at Step B, why should you at Step C? And so on to Step D.


And one day, too late, your principles, if you were ever sensible of them, all rush in upon you. The burden of self-deception has grown too heavy, and some minor incident, in my case my little boy, hardly more than a baby, saying “Jewish swine,” collapses it all at once, and you see that everything has changed and changed completely under your nose. The world you live in—your nation, your people—is not the world you were born in at all. The forms are all there, all untouched, all reassuring, the houses, the shops, the jobs, the mealtimes, the visits, the concerts, the cinema, the holidays. But the spirit, which you never noticed because you made the lifelong mistake of identifying it with the forms, is changed. Now you live in a world of hate and fear, and the people who hate and fear do not even know it themselves; when everyone is transformed, no one is transformed. Now you live in a system which rules without responsibility even to God. The system itself could not have intended this in the beginning, but in order to sustain itself it was compelled to go all the way.


Suddenly it all comes down, all at once. You see what you are, what you have done, or, more accurately, what you haven’t done (for that was all that was required of most of us: that we do nothing). You remember those early morning meetings of your department when, if one had stood, others would have stood, perhaps, but no one stood. A small matter, a matter of hiring this man or that, and you hired this one rather than that. You remember everything now, and your heart breaks. Too late. You are compromised beyond repair.


Except from They Thought They Were Free: The Germans 1933-45 - A nonfiction book from 1955 by Milton Mayer, consisting of interviews with ordinary German citizens after WWII

This is heavy.  Thanks for sharing this man!
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: AnimalChinaski79 on January 25, 2026, 05:12:42 AM
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I'm so physically and mentally exhausted everyday from all of this.  I wake up and my anxiety and tension just gets worse as the day goes on and by the end of the day my fucking shoulders feel like i've been carrying five gallon buckets of rocks all day.  I'm fucking pissed.  I have a 16 year old kid and I can't believe this is the shit her and every other kid is going to inherit.  I'm drained.
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Stay strong dude. You’re not the only one who feels that way and I’m sure your daughter knows how lucky she is to have you

Thanks brother!
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: GardenSkater77 on January 25, 2026, 09:02:25 AM
This is a very good interview and surprised it was allowed to occur on CNN. Dana Bash will surely have a You Tube channel only soon…

https://youtu.be/-VBJx116hqk?si=Q39Fd7jh84l9cN-M
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: noxiousPond on January 25, 2026, 10:22:50 AM
It really doesn’t help me that it just makes my blood boil looking at any of those scum bags faces. I wish I could watch that piece of shit Greg getting schooled for 20 minutes (or whatever happened in the video) but I can’t even watch it. Unless it’s him getting a taste of his own medicine I’m not looking at his scumbag face.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: dstrytruitt on January 25, 2026, 10:33:36 AM
This is a very good interview and surprised it was allowed to occur on CNN. Dana Bash will surely have a You Tube channel only soon…

https://youtu.be/-VBJx116hqk?si=Q39Fd7jh84l9cN-M
I’m absolutely dumbfounded by the gaslighting. Despicable. 
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: GardenSkater77 on January 25, 2026, 11:44:40 AM
It really doesn’t help me that it just makes my blood boil looking at any of those scum bags faces. I wish I could watch that piece of shit Greg getting schooled for 20 minutes (or whatever happened in the video) but I can’t even watch it. Unless it’s him getting a taste of his own medicine I’m not looking at his scumbag face.

I agree that you have to be in an unemotional state to watch this but Dana trapped him many times during the interview and we learned a lot about the evidence they have (mostly by omission) and his view on law enforcement.

Take aways:

-if you are in the vicinity of border patrol/ICE agent you are threatening them and they are the victim.
-the man who was killed was a ‘suspect’. So was the lady who was shoved to the ground.
-carrying a gun at a protest is only acceptable if you are not deemed a threat by an agent.
-Just because his gun was removed doesn’t mean he didn’t have other weapons.
-they CANNOT prove that he went for his gun.
-and…

The main point was that the STATE said that he was ‘brandishing’ a firearm which Dana pointed out is a legal term that she challenged him on multiple times. She read the legal definition of ‘brandishing’ and said point blank that nothing in the video shows him brandishing anything more than a cell phone. At which point HH cosplay scum bag said that is why we need to conduct an investigation’. To which Dana said that the state has already made this claim prior to the investigation.

Also, we found out that the border patrol murders are still on the street just in another location.

This type of shit has been going on in prisons in America since the inception of the penal system. But I have never seen it apart from the civil rights era (in recorded form obviously it happens every day in low income areas) happening on the street.

Edit: if you would rather watch a breakdown of the interview not the entire interview then I think Sam Stein did a good job of highlighting what I attempted to highlight.

https://youtu.be/F_3JoSmciZk?si=6du7ddZqcepxfa5m
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Painted Baby on January 25, 2026, 12:52:12 PM
This is a very good interview and surprised it was allowed to occur on CNN. Dana Bash will surely have a You Tube channel only soon…

https://youtu.be/-VBJx116hqk?si=Q39Fd7jh84l9cN-M
On the plus side, 93% of Warner Bros Discovery shareholders rejected Paramount's hostile takeover bid and the deadline was January 21st. Now they'd if just can Scott Jennings then maybe they can stop both sidesing the military coup we're in the middle of. I'm not deluded enough to think that legacy media is gonna do shit but serve content they think will get them ratings but it would be nice to not have an actual turd in the punchbowl at every roundtable discussion that CNN can't get enough of airing.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: augustmoon on January 25, 2026, 12:56:24 PM
Re: Prisons.  Don’t forget they basically admitted that they strangled a detainee to death in an Ice facilty a week or so ago.  It barely made a blip.  Who knows what’s actually going on in there, and even worse what’s going on in their facilities overseas


The guy strangled in Ice custody was painted as a sex offender in order to justify his murder.  Alex Pretti and Renee Good were called terrorists to justify theirs.  How long before simply labeling you a “democrat” will justify your murder. 

This is obviously been following the roadmap of Nazi Germany for a while now, but I feel like the predatory capitalism and performative evangelical fake Christianity of America is going to make it even more extreme.  The fact that the tech oligarchy is pulling the strings is going turbo charge the trajectory of it all. 
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Chalupa on January 25, 2026, 05:49:24 PM
The fact that the tech oligarchy is pulling the strings is going turbo charge the trajectory of it all.
Palantir created the database, app and software for ICE agents to take facial scans of everyone. Everyone in the database has a score that correlates to threat level. Getting scanned while protesting gets you labeled as a dangerous domestic terrorist by the domestic terrorists.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Painted Baby on January 25, 2026, 06:09:40 PM
Thiel thinks he's Ozymandias. It's so fucking fried to fashion yourself after a super villain but they've been hinting at it for years. I guess he (co)wrote this article a few months back and this video essay makes it pretty clear what he's up to even if Thiel himself somehow seems to miss the parallels between him and his lol Antichrist figure.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBok-ZxswZI

Here's the article if you have the stomach for it. I don't.
https://firstthings.com/voyages-to-the-end-of-the-world/
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: GardenSkater77 on January 25, 2026, 06:28:05 PM
The world was so much safer when people with money had a grip on reality. The tech bros are in some sort of alternate universe of good and evil where only they can save humanity. I really hope this is just a slight deviation in the space time continuum, but hearing from my kids how lacking in humanity their classmates are I am truly frightened for the future tech bros of America.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: OldieButFrenchie on January 26, 2026, 12:15:38 AM
I saw the latest news from Minneapolis and I'm at a loss for words here.... I avoided this thread for a long time.
I don't live in the US so I just don't wanted to deal with all this.
But I gotta say I really hope this is a turning point and the US finally recovers its senses and realizes Trump has gone way too far.

I actually had an argument about all this with my oldest son yesterday, I was trying to explain the US is not that bad as a country... He's convinced it's a hellhole, to borrow from Trump's vocabulary. It's crazy, cause when I was his age, the US seemed like a dream place.

Also regarding the posts above, I had never heard of Peter Thiel until now and I just don't understand these people. How do you deal with the cognitive dissonance of being gay and a christian at the same time? His wikipedia page is a rabbit hole of crazy shit....Sorry for the rambling, I intend to follow the discussion here from now on. But I won't have much to contribute as a European. One thing I can tell you is that pretty much 99% of people I know here are convinced Trump is crazy and/or stupid.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on January 26, 2026, 12:35:15 AM
Dollar is losing value against its peers. I wonder if this is a short term slide or something bigger.

Even the financial news is all short term dramatic framing. It is difficult to understand what is going on a macro or historical level.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: I-am-12 on January 26, 2026, 12:06:56 PM
This won't end until we do a General strike and (honestly) destroy the entire system itself (capitalism as we know it).

Learn about the military industrial complex and the need for infinite growth in capitalism. Know that all of this "training" and tactics come from the IDF. Our police our literally trained by the IDF. Unless some shit goes down, there's nothing stopping us from becoming like the Gazans...
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: GnarAlarm on January 26, 2026, 01:20:14 PM
Bovino sounds so similar to DaFino that every time I hear his name, in my I head I say...

(https://preview.redd.it/i-think-of-this-every-time-i-hear-his-name-v0-cm2vgm5pdrfg1.png?auto=webp&s=e3b7b7c28e9357bbaaf5d20572631bc209b4e673)

And stay away from my special...from my...fuckin' lady friend, man!
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: AnimalChinaski79 on January 26, 2026, 01:42:24 PM
A brother seamus!

An Irish monk?
Bovino sounds so similar to DaFino that every time I hear his name, in my I head I say...

(https://preview.redd.it/i-think-of-this-every-time-i-hear-his-name-v0-cm2vgm5pdrfg1.png?auto=webp&s=e3b7b7c28e9357bbaaf5d20572631bc209b4e673)

And stay away from my special...from my...fuckin' lady friend, man!
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: whale on January 26, 2026, 02:23:43 PM
Wish Walter was there to tell Donny T to shut up
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on January 26, 2026, 03:05:19 PM
Wish Walter was there to tell Donny T to shut up

Considering who Walter was based on, he might not this time
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: radcunt on January 26, 2026, 05:29:55 PM
All the aggressive ICE operations in swing-state cities seems to all be to set the stage for interference in the midterms through voter intimidation, claims of emergency, or attempts to federalize election oversight.  Just terrorise people enough that when you roll out Ice into all the dem states, people will be too scared to turn up.

Plus over half of the Project 2025 agenda has been implemented IN THE FIRST YEAR.  At least 20 Project 2025 authors now hold administration positions.

It's going to be next to impossible to turn this around, voting isn't going to be enough and there's no chance any fair vote will be allowed to take place.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on January 26, 2026, 06:47:14 PM
If the goal was just immigration, ICE wouldn't be focused on Portland or Minneapolis. Two relatively small cities that are super white.

If the goal was immigration, I imagine Miami, Dallas, Houston, etc. would be at the forefront of the "enforcement."

Also, lack of professionalism is astounding. Masks (I could have sworn masks were evil just a couple years ago), no uniforms, reduced training, and unmarked cars are not attributes of first world enforcement agencies.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Painted Baby on January 26, 2026, 06:51:34 PM
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Wish Walter was there to tell Donny T to shut up
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Considering who Walter was based on, he might not this time
It's funny. I never knew it was based on John Milius but immediately knew who you were talking about right now.

Look, I love Conan the Barbarian, maybe more than the next guy, but I caught a white supremacist reading off of it one day and it's been hard to unsee it. Teutonic ubermensch destroys the cult of the dark skinned snake worshipper and frees the fair concubines, all set to the Reich's favorite compose Carl Orf (at least the trailer was anyway.)
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on January 26, 2026, 07:08:28 PM
If the goal was just immigration, ICE wouldn't be focused on Portland or Minneapolis. Two relatively small cities that are super white.

Pam Bondi already made it clear, it’s about getting the state’s voter rolls. She said it to them, “give us your voter rolls and I’ll have ICE leave.”
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on January 27, 2026, 01:09:04 AM
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Wish Walter was there to tell Donny T to shut up
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Considering who Walter was based on, he might not this time
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It's funny. I never knew it was based on John Milius but immediately knew who you were talking about right now.

Look, I love Conan the Barbarian, maybe more than the next guy, but I caught a white supremacist reading off of it one day and it's been hard to unsee it. Teutonic ubermensch destroys the cult of the dark skinned snake worshipper and frees the fair concubines, all set to the Reich's favorite compose Carl Orf (at least the trailer was anyway.)

Woof yeah that’s a gnarly connection to see

Not to mention Milius supposedly came up with the “octagon” for UfC in its nascent days and that’s the sport of the administration
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: GardenSkater77 on January 27, 2026, 04:04:09 AM
All the aggressive ICE operations in swing-state cities seems to all be to set the stage for interference in the midterms through voter intimidation, claims of emergency, or attempts to federalize election oversight.  Just terrorise people enough that when you roll out Ice into all the dem states, people will be too scared to turn up.

Plus over half of the Project 2025 agenda has been implemented IN THE FIRST YEAR.  At least 20 Project 2025 authors now hold administration positions.

It's going to be next to impossible to turn this around, voting isn't going to be enough and there's no chance any fair vote will be allowed to take place.

The fact that you know this much about American politics is quite an indictment on how bad it has gotten.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Chalupa on January 27, 2026, 06:30:02 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/PGgcQ4dR/IMG-3895.jpg)

Murdering people in USA isn’t enough. They want to brutalize people in other countries with taxpayers’ money. Private security firms would charge a fraction of whatever this will cost.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on January 27, 2026, 07:15:11 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/PGgcQ4dR/IMG-3895.jpg)

Murdering people in USA isn’t enough. They want to brutalize people in other countries with taxpayers’ money. Private security firms would charge a fraction of whatever this will cost.


ICE to be security to VP and Sec of State. You know, jobs for the SECRET SERVICE! Let’s just call ICE what they are — SS Brownshirts.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: fuck_that_guy on January 27, 2026, 06:43:39 PM
ok fuck that bovino guy
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on January 27, 2026, 08:29:00 PM
ok fuck that bovino guy

Looks like he’s the fall guy.   Got removed from leadership role and sent back to CA and Trump calls him “out there”.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Painted Baby on January 27, 2026, 09:03:12 PM
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ok fuck that bovino guy
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Looks like he’s the fall guy.   Got removed from leadership role and sent back to CA and Trump calls him “out there”.
MFer he's "out there" doing what Stephen Miller told him to do. They're not walking this back but I'm gonna try to derive some joy from watching them try.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on January 27, 2026, 09:35:16 PM
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ok fuck that bovino guy
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Looks like he’s the fall guy.   Got removed from leadership role and sent back to CA and Trump calls him “out there”.

To be fair, everyone is the fall guy for Trump. With Trump it’s never “IF he’ll throw you under the bus,” it’s “WHEN will he throw you under the bus.”

Also, Kash Patel is doing a criminal investigation into a Signal App chat that talk about ICE movement and locations. Yet, he declined to investigate when Hegseth used Signal to discuss sensitive military attack plans.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on January 28, 2026, 12:21:19 AM
I just can’t believe they actually went against 2a
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Chalupa on January 28, 2026, 04:40:45 AM
I just can’t believe they actually went against 2a
They’ll sacrifice any beliefs to “own the libs.”
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on January 28, 2026, 06:05:49 AM
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They’ll sacrifice any beliefs to “own the libs.”

And they’ll still run on the platform in 2028 that the Democrat candidate is going to take your guns.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on January 28, 2026, 06:12:44 AM
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I just can’t believe they actually went against 2a
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They’ll sacrifice any beliefs to “own the libs.”
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And they’ll still run on the platform in 2028 that the Democrat candidate is going to take your guns.


I think Marco is the only one who could run on that since he hasn’t had any video of him saying that.   You’ve got even the NrA criticizing these guys
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on January 28, 2026, 07:11:03 AM
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I just can’t believe they actually went against 2a
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They’ll sacrifice any beliefs to “own the libs.”
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And they’ll still run on the platform in 2028 that the Democrat candidate is going to take your guns.
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I think Marco is the only one who could run on that since he hasn’t had any video of him saying that.   You’ve got even the NrA criticizing these guys

Sadly, any Republican will just play the “I didn’t say that” and/or “That’s not true” line and their followers will just go with it.

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on January 28, 2026, 09:24:56 AM
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I just can’t believe they actually went against 2a
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They’ll sacrifice any beliefs to “own the libs.”
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And they’ll still run on the platform in 2028 that the Democrat candidate is going to take your guns.
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I think Marco is the only one who could run on that since he hasn’t had any video of him saying that.   You’ve got even the NrA criticizing these guys
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Sadly, any Republican will just play the “I didn’t say that” and/or “That’s not true” line and their followers will just go with it.

Sure, but a lot of this is in service to Trump who gets that rarefied treatment.   I’m curious to see how they are treated when they stand on their own and start fighting dirty with each other to secure the nomination.   
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I just can’t believe they actually went against 2a
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They’ll sacrifice any beliefs to “own the libs.”
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And they’ll still run on the platform in 2028 that the Democrat candidate is going to take your guns.
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I think Marco is the only one who could run on that since he hasn’t had any video of him saying that.   You’ve got even the NrA criticizing these guys
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Sadly, any Republican will just play the “I didn’t say that” and/or “That’s not true” line and their followers will just go with it.
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Sure, but a lot of this is in service to Trump who gets that rarefied treatment.   I’m curious to see how they are treated when they stand on their own and start fighting dirty with each other to secure the nomination.

Trump gets the pass for sure, but others have used it successfully.

Hell, one of the biggest ones was when Lindsay Graham said "use my words against me" when saying on record how we should not seat a SCOTUS during an election year (11 months before the election), denying Obama a nomination, but helped push Trump's seating of Coney Barret weeks before the election. His followers said it was doctored video.

In 2022, when Marjorie Taylor Green when in a hearing of whether she should be allowed on the ballot after rallying about fraud in 2020, whenever records were brought up, she responded with "I don't remember saying that" then following up with "that's doctored video" whenever evidence was pulled and shown from her social media accounts.

In 2020, Sen. Ron Johnson, helped spread the "election fraud" misinformation, then when presented the video in 2024, he said, "I didn't say that."

In all situations, MAGA believed the narrative and fought against the truth.

I honestly don't think their lies will ever backfire on them.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on January 28, 2026, 10:01:59 AM
FBI executed a search and seizure warrant at the Georgia Election office that was the basis for Trump's election fraud in 2020.

Guaranteed this is to take data and seize (and destroy) evidence that can be used against Trump. Especially seeing Jack Smith said that the charges against Trump were dismissed with prejudice when Trump got back into office. Implying he can be tried again when out of office.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: midnitecruiser on January 28, 2026, 12:37:22 PM
I deleted Nikki Minaj's I'm the Best off my driving playlist
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on January 30, 2026, 06:01:57 AM
After a federal judge refused to indict Don Lemon for his recording of the church protest in MN (due to the pastor being a local ICE leader), sounds like Trump went to a loyal magistrate judge to sign a warrant and had Don Lemon arrested.

Openly arresting journalists. 1A is officially dead and we’re one step closer to a totalitarian state.

Just once. Just one day I’d like to wake up and not read about bat crazy shit news from this administration.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mongo Lloyd on January 30, 2026, 06:26:16 AM
Grain of salt without a proper source, but I read that a local Minn journalist was also arrested by the feds.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on January 30, 2026, 06:55:37 AM
Grain of salt without a proper source, but I read that a local Minn journalist was also arrested by the feds.

My bad.

Article from last week mentioning how a federal judge is rejecting the DOJ’s attempt to prosecute Don Lemon for the reason that Lemon was reporting and not protesting:
https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/22/politics/don-lemon-justice-department-minnesota

Article mentions that Attorney General Pam Bondi is pissed the magistrate judge refused to sign the warrant, making easy to specualte that Bondi then shopped around to a judge loyal to the administration.

Then the article mentioning his arrest this morning:
https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/30/politics/don-lemon-custody

Argument is he and the protestors interrupted service, therefore denying people their rights to express their religion. Looks like they’re gonna be hit with Trump’s “Anti-Christian Bias EO” where they’re going to prosecute to the fullest exent anyone who is deemed “Anti-Christian.”
https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/06/politics/donald-trump-executive-orders-icc-anti-christian-bias
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Painted Baby on January 30, 2026, 07:58:31 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dk8EdmCZ2uY
Here's a decent law tube breakdown. Please excuse the shilliness of the edit. They're lawyers, after all.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mongo Lloyd on January 30, 2026, 01:04:26 PM
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Grain of salt without a proper source, but I read that a local Minn journalist was also arrested by the feds.
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My bad.

Article from last week mentioning how a federal judge is rejecting the DOJ’s attempt to prosecute Don Lemon for the reason that Lemon was reporting and not protesting:
https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/22/politics/don-lemon-justice-department-minnesota

Article mentions that Attorney General Pam Bondi is pissed the magistrate judge refused to sign the warrant, making easy to specualte that Bondi then shopped around to a judge loyal to the administration.

Then the article mentioning his arrest this morning:
https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/30/politics/don-lemon-custody

Argument is he and the protestors interrupted service, therefore denying people their rights to express their religion. Looks like they’re gonna be hit with Trump’s “Anti-Christian Bias EO” where they’re going to prosecute to the fullest exent anyone who is deemed “Anti-Christian.”
https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/06/politics/donald-trump-executive-orders-icc-anti-christian-bias

No no, you’re good man! I was saying take my comment with a grain of salt, because I didn’t provide a source.

Sorry for not clarifying.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on January 30, 2026, 07:27:45 PM
Friday tRump is a pedophile drops:
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DUJG21oEdhU/?igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DS0K0zJjXO7/?igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==

Feel free to add on.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on January 30, 2026, 08:00:50 PM
Friday tRump is a pedophile drops:
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DUJG21oEdhU/?igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DS0K0zJjXO7/?igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==

Feel free to add on.

DOJ already deleting hella files with his name in it.

Trump and Bondi also announced they’ll be sending ICE to Springfield, OH to get the Haitians.

Yea, with that, the arrests to Lemon and other reporters, he’s stirring up hella shit to distract from the Epstein Files.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Sila on January 31, 2026, 03:57:00 AM
US is at a critical turning point. I'm not even from there and the news is unbearable. But also I'm a person of colour and was planning on visiting friends in Minneapolis soon so it hits home
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: AnimalChinaski79 on January 31, 2026, 05:56:20 AM
Friday tRump is a pedophile drops:
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DUJG21oEdhU/?igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DS0K0zJjXO7/?igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==

Feel free to add on.

If the Epstein files exonerated Trump he would of released them already and charged his cult of idiots for signed copies.  Guy is a blatant fucking pedophile.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: augustmoon on January 31, 2026, 06:45:16 AM
Musk getting outed as a huge loser begging to go to pedo island and just trying to post through it 
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Chalupa on January 31, 2026, 07:07:28 AM
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Grain of salt without a proper source, but I read that a local Minn journalist was also arrested by the feds.
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My bad.

Article from last week mentioning how a federal judge is rejecting the DOJ’s attempt to prosecute Don Lemon for the reason that Lemon was reporting and not protesting:
https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/22/politics/don-lemon-justice-department-minnesota

Article mentions that Attorney General Pam Bondi is pissed the magistrate judge refused to sign the warrant, making easy to specualte that Bondi then shopped around to a judge loyal to the administration.

Then the article mentioning his arrest this morning:
https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/30/politics/don-lemon-custody

Argument is he and the protestors interrupted service, therefore denying people their rights to express their religion. Looks like they’re gonna be hit with Trump’s “Anti-Christian Bias EO” where they’re going to prosecute to the fullest exent anyone who is deemed “Anti-Christian.”
https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/06/politics/donald-trump-executive-orders-icc-anti-christian-bias
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No no, you’re good man! I was saying take my comment with a grain of salt, because I didn’t provide a source.

Sorry for not clarifying.


The local reporter is Georgia Fort.
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“Authorities continue to be vague about why exactly Lemon is being prosecuted. Bondi wrote on X that Lemon—alongside journalist Georgia Fort and two activists, Trahern Jeen Crews and Jamael Lydell Lundy—had been detained “in connection with [a] coordinated attack” on the St. Paul church, but has not said what the charges are. FBI spokeswoman Lourdes Arocho said Lemon was arrested in Beverly Hills “on a federal warrant issued in another district.””

“But only a few hours after the fact, the DOJ’s case is falling apart again. MS NOW reported that various DOJ prosecutors in both Minnesota and Los Angeles have refused to be involved in indicting Lemon. ”

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“DOJ’s Arrest of Don Lemon Is Already Going Off the Rails”
The New Republic

The administration is using the FACE Act to indict journalists and activists, but will no longer use it on violent people outside medical facilities that offer abortions. Getting rid of embryos without a heartbeat is bad but executing people is cool.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: sidekickman on January 31, 2026, 12:19:31 PM
trying to talk to grok on x about the files will summon roy cohn's ghost
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on January 31, 2026, 12:50:06 PM
Judge ordered ICE to release Liam Ramos and his dad from their Texas detention center.

100% Trump/Noem/Bondi gonna send that kid and his dad to a work camp in Somalia.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Nom De Plume on February 01, 2026, 01:54:33 AM
(https://i.postimg.cc/prsH8R3C/Screenshot-2026-02-01-at-4-30-11-AM.png)

Typically this would be weird as hell but it's 2026 America. Really does seem like a distraction and obvious bribe. Looks to be getting reverse review bombed. Comes off as the most vapid first lady in history and they are acting like she's Eleanor Roosevelt.

"Melania mistakes its subject’s fame for star quality, and mistakes a life of leisure for one of accomplishment and importance,"

Not so different from so many US citizen's take on her husband, just swap out for more sinister misconceptions. 100% pure, uncut insanity.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Mildred on February 01, 2026, 04:26:03 AM
(https://i.postimg.cc/prsH8R3C/Screenshot-2026-02-01-at-4-30-11-AM.png)

Typically this would be= weird as hell but it's 2026 America. Really does seem like a distraction and obvious bribe. Looks to be getting reverse review bombed. Comes off as the most vapid first lady in history and they are acting like she's Eleanor Roosevelt.

"Melania mistakes its subject’s fame for star quality, and mistakes a life of leisure for one of accomplishment and importance,"

Not so different from so many US citizen's take on her husband, just swap out for more sinister misconceptions. 100% pure, uncut insanity.


Director Brett Ratner pictured with Jacob Epstein.

(https://i.ibb.co/ymkTnXd2/ratner-and-Epstein.png)

Personally I can't wait to get ahold of a copy of the film. I have a half a mind to splice with it with footage of J6. ICE violence and of course lots of montages of things that have come to light in the Epstein files. Then re-release..
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Nom De Plume on February 01, 2026, 06:06:59 AM
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(https://i.postimg.cc/prsH8R3C/Screenshot-2026-02-01-at-4-30-11-AM.png)

Typically this would be= weird as hell but it's 2026 America. Really does seem like a distraction and obvious bribe. Looks to be getting reverse review bombed. Comes off as the most vapid first lady in history and they are acting like she's Eleanor Roosevelt.

"Melania mistakes its subject’s fame for star quality, and mistakes a life of leisure for one of accomplishment and importance,"

Not so different from so many US citizen's take on her husband, just swap out for more sinister misconceptions. 100% pure, uncut insanity.
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Director Brett Ratner pictured with Jacob Epstein.

(https://i.ibb.co/ymkTnXd2/ratner-and-Epstein.png)

Personally I can't wait to get ahold of a copy of the film. I have a half a mind to splice with it with footage of J6. ICE violence and of course lots of montages of things that have come to light in the Epstein files. Then re-release..
Just disgusting. This picture ruined my day.

Crazy, I was thinking of exactly that imagery while reading the positive reviews and takes in there. The delusions and disconnect are unreal. You could splice that video, show it to supporters, and even then it would probably have zero effect on them.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: AnimalChinaski79 on February 01, 2026, 08:22:10 AM
Melania was Epsteins cum slut whore and Trump took the sloppy seconds.   I pray these people DIE a long painful death.   
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Emo jimmy on February 01, 2026, 09:05:04 AM
The irony of her barely being able to speak english and having a hazy, dubious immigration background herself while trying to pass off this administrations propaganda is too much man

Theyll do a scientist or doctor dirty but turn a blind eye to her doing absolutely nothing for society at large
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on February 01, 2026, 01:19:13 PM
The irony of her barely being able to speak english and having a hazy, dubious immigration background herself while trying to pass off this administrations propaganda is too much man

Theyll do a scientist or doctor dirty but turn a blind eye to her doing absolutely nothing for society at large

LOL. MAGA spent four years trying to discredit Jill Biden because she refers to herself as “doctor” because she has a PhD and not an MD.

Even when people speculated if Kamala won, Jill would be asked to be Head of Dept of Education. And MAGA went on rants that she wouldn’t be qualified and would only be a nepo/DEI hire.

The idea of a person with a PhD in Education leading the Dept of Education is ludicrous to them. 
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Sila on February 01, 2026, 05:23:45 PM
Alex Pretti murderers identified https://www.propublica.org/article/alex-pretti-shooting-cbp-agents-identified-jesus-ochoa-raymundo-gutierrez

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on February 02, 2026, 07:01:06 AM
DOJ published dozens of photos of nude underaged girls in the Epstein files. For perspective, FBI and DOJ were able to successfully redact Trump’s name and his face in photos from the files, yet they “miss” names and photos of the victims and accusers.

Yea, I gonna go out on a limb and say they’re leaving the victims exposed so MAGA can dox and harass them.

(gift article via Reddit) https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/01/us/nude-photos-epstein-files.html?unlocked_article_code=1.JFA.FUZn.MJCksOZ4_f2Q&smid=url-share
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on February 02, 2026, 06:20:10 PM
Oh they absolutely did that on purpose. Same with all the Clinton stuff but tRump is conspicuously missing from the majority(wonder what all the completely redacted pages are 🙄).

Also a dem won Texas special election for the first time in decades and tRump wants the federal government to run all voting.
Fuck the states having control. It’s to difficult to stuff ballots that way!
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Painted Baby on February 02, 2026, 06:32:45 PM
I was happy they leaked sworn testimony that testified that Trump threatened one of the victims with murder and then referenced another victim he claimed was dead. That's no tip. That person was sworn in when that statement was given so it would have actual weight in court. Of course, I'm not sure supporters will give a shit or understand the difference.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on February 02, 2026, 06:41:52 PM

Also a dem won Texas special election for the first time in decades and tRump wants the federal government to run all voting.
Fuck the states having control. It’s to difficult to stuff ballots that way!

And he said it straight up on Dan Bongino’s podcast, too. He’s saying it out loud and MAGA and FOX are quick with the typical “The Left can’t take a joke” shit.

Man, remember when language of stealing elections, civil war, and quid pro quos were grounds for impeachment?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: JANUS on February 03, 2026, 04:37:23 AM
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Also a dem won Texas special election for the first time in decades and tRump wants the federal government to run all voting.
Fuck the states having control. It’s to difficult to stuff ballots that way!
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And he said it straight up on Dan Bongino’s podcast, too. He’s saying it out loud and MAGA and FOX are quick with the typical “The Left can’t take a joke” shit.

Man, remember when language of stealing elections, civil war, and quid pro quos were grounds for impeachment?

I remember when yelling “BYYYYAAAAAH!” was all it took for people to think a candidate was unpresidential.
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Post by: TastyBurrito on February 03, 2026, 06:09:10 AM
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Fuck the states having control. It’s to difficult to stuff ballots that way!
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And he said it straight up on Dan Bongino’s podcast, too. He’s saying it out loud and MAGA and FOX are quick with the typical “The Left can’t take a joke” shit.

Man, remember when language of stealing elections, civil war, and quid pro quos were grounds for impeachment?
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I remember when yelling “BYYYYAAAAAH!” was all it took for people to think a candidate was unpresidential.

Holy shit this made me laugh. I remember seeing that clip from his campaign rally on the news, then shortly after, his speech that he dropped from the race.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Billy Bitchcakes on February 03, 2026, 06:43:43 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1uu3ZqJeGM
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Post by: Atiba Applebum on February 03, 2026, 08:24:54 AM
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Also a dem won Texas special election for the first time in decades and tRump wants the federal government to run all voting.
Fuck the states having control. It’s to difficult to stuff ballots that way!
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And he said it straight up on Dan Bongino’s podcast, too. He’s saying it out loud and MAGA and FOX are quick with the typical “The Left can’t take a joke” shit.

Man, remember when language of stealing elections, civil war, and quid pro quos were grounds for impeachment?
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I remember when yelling “BYYYYAAAAAH!” was all it took for people to think a candidate was unpresidential.


People forget - that was his rallying cry after coming in 4th.   He was toast already

Edit: came in third (in Iowa)
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Post by: Painted Baby on February 03, 2026, 09:44:56 AM
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Fuck the states having control. It’s to difficult to stuff ballots that way!
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And he said it straight up on Dan Bongino’s podcast, too. He’s saying it out loud and MAGA and FOX are quick with the typical “The Left can’t take a joke” shit.

Man, remember when language of stealing elections, civil war, and quid pro quos were grounds for impeachment?
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I remember when yelling “BYYYYAAAAAH!” was all it took for people to think a candidate was unpresidential.
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People forget - that was his rallying cry after coming in 4th.   He was toast already

Edit: came in third (in Iowa)
That was a fucking hard arc to live through as a voter. We went from maybe electing Al Gore to centrist, hawkish Dems beating somebody like Dean easily but then being too liberal to ever be elected. Straight up dog walked into the Iraq invasion with the Congressional vote for that shitting all over whatever liberal credibility they might have had left. Trump for sure capitalized on that stigma but he never served or held office so it was just armchair quarterbacking. He's clearly the worst kind of hawk. John Edwards went from coming in 2nd in those caucuses and becoming the Dem VP nominee to being indicted for using campaign money to hide his cheating on his wife who was dying of cancer.

I was happy to lap up the thin neoliberal gruel that Obama served up just because it seemed stable and familiar. Come to find out, Silicon Valley was using the trojan horse of technoutopia to set the stage for their coup. They built out the next gen communication infrastructure and then intentionally began corroding it with disinformation. I can feel myself being radicalized.

But that guy screams weird. But her emails.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: GardenSkater77 on February 03, 2026, 07:52:29 PM
Apparently, Trump shit his pants behind the resolute desk.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yrX9mAi1LLA
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on February 03, 2026, 08:32:33 PM
Apparently, Trump shit his pants behind the resolute desk.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yrX9mAi1LLA

:24 the girl in green next to him is smelling it. And by the way they're clearing people out in the quickness, seems like they have protocol for his incontinence.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Painted Baby on February 04, 2026, 06:49:01 AM
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Apparently, Trump shit his pants behind the resolute desk.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yrX9mAi1LLA
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:24 the girl in green next to him is smelling it. And by the way they're clearing people out in the quickness, seems like they have protocol for his incontinence.
Code brown! We have a code brown people!
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on February 04, 2026, 01:05:46 PM
SCOTUS ruled that CA can use the new voting maps.

ZERO DISSENTS.

The lack of Clarence Thomas' shitty feedback, leaves me with a feeling that him, Alito, and Roberts know that Trump will meddle with the midterm elections and are voting this way to come off as competent while not coming off as complicit.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on February 04, 2026, 01:17:06 PM
SCOTUS ruled that CA can use the new voting maps.

ZERO DISSENTS.

The lack of Clarence Thomas' shitty feedback, leaves me with a feeling that him, Alito, and Roberts know that Trump will meddle with the midterm elections and are voting this way to come off as competent while not coming off as complicit.


Bannon said ICE is going to be everywhere on Election Day, but that seems logistically improbable.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on February 04, 2026, 02:18:28 PM
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SCOTUS ruled that CA can use the new voting maps.

ZERO DISSENTS.

The lack of Clarence Thomas' shitty feedback, leaves me with a feeling that him, Alito, and Roberts know that Trump will meddle with the midterm elections and are voting this way to come off as competent while not coming off as complicit.
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Bannon said ICE is going to be everywhere on Election Day, but that seems logistically improbable.

Not everywhere, just 15 cities (Trump mentioned on Dan Borgino podcast) that are big, heavy Democratic cities.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on February 04, 2026, 05:02:51 PM
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SCOTUS ruled that CA can use the new voting maps.

ZERO DISSENTS.

The lack of Clarence Thomas' shitty feedback, leaves me with a feeling that him, Alito, and Roberts know that Trump will meddle with the midterm elections and are voting this way to come off as competent while not coming off as complicit.
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Bannon said ICE is going to be everywhere on Election Day, but that seems logistically improbable.
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Not everywhere, just 15 cities (Trump mentioned on Dan Borgino podcast) that are big, heavy Democratic cities.


Different convos - the 15 cities is where Trump said Republicans should take over the voting

Bannon’s piggybacking off that
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/5723066-bannon-ice-presence-polls/amp/
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on February 04, 2026, 05:16:35 PM
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SCOTUS ruled that CA can use the new voting maps.

ZERO DISSENTS.

The lack of Clarence Thomas' shitty feedback, leaves me with a feeling that him, Alito, and Roberts know that Trump will meddle with the midterm elections and are voting this way to come off as competent while not coming off as complicit.
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Bannon said ICE is going to be everywhere on Election Day, but that seems logistically improbable.
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Not everywhere, just 15 cities (Trump mentioned on Dan Borgino podcast) that are big, heavy Democratic cities.
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Different convos - the 15 cities is where Trump said Republicans should take over the voting

Bannon’s piggybacking off that
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/5723066-bannon-ice-presence-polls/amp/

I get that. Just the implication is while "everywhere" is technically unfeasible, "everywhere" for them is simply Democrat run cities. Especially huge ones like LA, SF, Chicago, Atlanta, etc.

All of that on top of making sure to make voting in those cities will be as difficult as possible. Probably shit like, no parking within 2-miles of polling locations, restricting the amount of polling locations in heavily populated area, no bathrooms, etc.

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on February 04, 2026, 05:38:48 PM
Good thing there’s still mail in voting or drop boxes. If you mail MAKE SURE ITS POSTMARKED BEFORE ELECTION DAY. Anything that’s marked after that(even if it was mailed before) won’t be counted. Do it a couple weeks, or more, early if you can.

Positive news: looks like all the new ICE recruits are getting screwed on their pay checks or just not getting paid at all!🤣
https://newrepublic.com/post/206049/ice-agents-whine-massive-bonuses
(https://i.postimg.cc/HWKRQ0k5/IMG-6449.png) (https://postimg.cc/jCHMT7Nd)

Also, Millers concentration camps he wants built are being rebelled against even in red states/districts.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trump-prison-camp-threat-unleashes-110000496.html
(https://i.postimg.cc/25QLxxYx/IMG-6475.png) (https://postimg.cc/Z9qqbpC9)
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on February 04, 2026, 07:03:08 PM
Good thing there’s still mail in voting or drop boxes. If you mail MAKE SURE ITS POSTMARKED BEFORE ELECTION DAY. Anything that’s marked after that(even if it was mailed before) won’t be counted. Do it a couple weeks, or more, early if you can.

Note: With USPS new ruling, letters will now be postmarked when it gets to the regional center rather than when the post office first gets it and processes it. This, especially in rural areas, can add a 1-2 day delay to your postmark.

Make no mistake, this is a way to void as many mail-in ballots as possible. So if you do vote by mail, do it early!
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Chalupa on February 05, 2026, 05:43:59 AM
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Good thing there’s still mail in voting or drop boxes. If you mail MAKE SURE ITS POSTMARKED BEFORE ELECTION DAY. Anything that’s marked after that(even if it was mailed before) won’t be counted. Do it a couple weeks, or more, early if you can.
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Note: With USPS new ruling, letters will now be postmarked when it gets to the regional center rather than when the post office first gets it and processes it. This, especially in rural areas, can add a 1-2 day delay to your postmark.

Make no mistake, this is a way to void as many mail-in ballots as possible. So if you do vote by mail, do it early!
The previous postmaster general is a Trump lackey, with ties to a logistic company, who cut funding to make services less efficient. The USPS went from making profit to losing billions of dollars per year. It’s most likely that Republicans want to ruin it so one of them can buy it for cheap, and commit ballot fraud, since that’s one of the things Republicans accuse Democrats of doing.

The documents from the Epstein files are awful. They left victims names while redacting pedophiles’. What happened to “He didn’t traffic girls to anyone”? On top of that, the deputy AG said that there wouldn’t be any further prosecution. I don’t get how these people claim to be Christians while covering up for pedos.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Willie on February 05, 2026, 12:34:27 PM
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SCOTUS ruled that CA can use the new voting maps.

ZERO DISSENTS.

The lack of Clarence Thomas' shitty feedback, leaves me with a feeling that him, Alito, and Roberts know that Trump will meddle with the midterm elections and are voting this way to come off as competent while not coming off as complicit.
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Bannon said ICE is going to be everywhere on Election Day, but that seems logistically improbable.
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Not everywhere, just 15 cities (Trump mentioned on Dan Borgino podcast) that are big, heavy Democratic cities.
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Different convos - the 15 cities is where Trump said Republicans should take over the voting

Bannon’s piggybacking off that
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/5723066-bannon-ice-presence-polls/amp/
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I get that. Just the implication is while "everywhere" is technically unfeasible, "everywhere" for them is simply Democrat run cities. Especially huge ones like LA, SF, Chicago, Atlanta, etc.

All of that on top of making sure to make voting in those cities will be as difficult as possible. Probably shit like, no parking within 2-miles of polling locations, restricting the amount of polling locations in heavily populated area, no bathrooms, etc.

They wouldn’t bother in states that aren’t close. It would be Philly, Atlanta, Milwaukee, Detroit, etc.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on February 05, 2026, 01:27:44 PM
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Good thing there’s still mail in voting or drop boxes. If you mail MAKE SURE ITS POSTMARKED BEFORE ELECTION DAY. Anything that’s marked after that(even if it was mailed before) won’t be counted. Do it a couple weeks, or more, early if you can.
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Note: With USPS new ruling, letters will now be postmarked when it gets to the regional center rather than when the post office first gets it and processes it. This, especially in rural areas, can add a 1-2 day delay to your postmark.

Make no mistake, this is a way to void as many mail-in ballots as possible. So if you do vote by mail, do it early!
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The previous postmaster general is a Trump lackey, with ties to a logistic company, who cut funding to make services less efficient. The USPS went from making profit to losing billions of dollars per year. It’s most likely that Republicans want to ruin it so one of them can buy it for cheap, and commit ballot fraud, since that’s one of the things Republicans accuse Democrats of doing.

That's the GOP plan — run everything into the ground, campaign on fixing things (they broke), fix those things by privatizing them, profit (for themselves).

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on February 05, 2026, 06:30:24 PM
That pretty much sums it up.

I’m 100% certain the reference in the Epstein files about Don don blowing Bubba was in fact true:
(https://i.postimg.cc/bJp743c4/IMG-6480.png) (https://postimg.cc/B877K5vC)
Also explains all the Hillary hate. Ol DIAPER DONALD is jealous! Isn’t that cute?!
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on February 05, 2026, 08:13:42 PM
Keep an eye on the administration doing the old Putin/Donetsk move for secession-minded Albertans in an oil-rich, right wing province.   Apparently that’s the part of Canada they really want.   


Also, I will never understand the oil industry.   Why do we still need so much oil.  We have massive surpluses
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: munchbox on February 06, 2026, 08:03:14 AM
Also, I will never understand the oil industry.   Why do we still need so much oil.  We have massive surpluses
power, control, greed
its capitalism 101
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Rusty Shackleford on February 06, 2026, 08:16:12 AM
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more distraction and division...happy Black History Month!
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Jehoshaphat Augustus on February 06, 2026, 08:58:24 AM
https://youtu.be/ToJxd3HBviE

Fred Trump was the landlord of Woody "This Land is Your Land, This land is my land" Guthrie...Guthrie even wrote a song about "old man trump"

(https://i.ibb.co/d4z0QCPJ/Screenshot-20260206-105144-Photos.jpg)

His goal is to just keep making money and increase the already un-spendablely, astronomically high numbers in his bank accounts, by any means necessary. The future versions of him all want to be like him. we're fucked.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Chalupa on February 06, 2026, 11:33:17 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/xqcR7683/IMG-3980.jpg)
Instead of working on lowering inflation, this pedophile-murderer wants more shit named after him.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on February 06, 2026, 12:13:02 PM
Fucker is withholding money ALREADY APPROVED BY CONGRESS unless he gets DCs airport and Penn Station named after him. What. A. Bitch.

https://www.politico.com/news/2026/02/05/trump-wanted-dulles-airport-and-penn-station-named-after-him-to-release-rail-tunnel-funds-00768242
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: h00man on February 06, 2026, 12:31:57 PM
MAGA will continue to come up with the most unhinged shit to keep supporting him. Absolutely insane how we got here.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: AnimalChinaski79 on February 06, 2026, 01:00:40 PM


It's a cult.  They're either really really stupid, which I think many of them are, or they're just garbage human beings, or a combination of it all.  Fox News took full advantage of this demographic of simpleton bigots and ran with it. 
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Sincerity on February 06, 2026, 01:43:20 PM
There are similarities with a cult, for sure, because cult leaders fill voids with simplistic answers. But as many people here have pointed out, it's not simply a matter of the followers' intelligence. Poverty (or the imminent threat of it), hopelessness, and disinformation campaigns have created voids for people who hadn't felt them as much before (or as consciously), and it has frightened them. It has driven them to distrust institutions they used to trust, and it has also made them more vulnerable and dependent on the cult.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on February 06, 2026, 06:52:42 PM
Sen Marsha Blackburn from TN criticized SCOTUS Judge Ketanji Jackson for being at the Grammys and is insisting they probe into the attendance. She said her being there (she was nominated for a book she narrated), where anti-ICE comments were made, makes her question her ethics and whether she can remain politically impartial.

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5726897-justice-jackson-grammy-controversy/amp/

Blackburn ignored all glossed over all accusations and evidence of Clarence Thomas accepting high-value gifts as well as Alito’s flying the flag upside down when Biden was elected. But this, this is where she puts her foot down.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: GardenSkater77 on February 06, 2026, 08:08:23 PM
Sen Marsha Blackburn from TN criticized SCOTUS Judge Ketanji Jackson for being at the Grammys and is insisting they probe into the attendance. She said her being there (she was nominated for a book she narrated), where anti-ICE comments were made, makes her question her ethics and whether she can remain politically impartial.

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5726897-justice-jackson-grammy-controversy/amp/

Blackburn ignored all glossed over all accusations and evidence of Clarence Thomas accepting high-value gifts as well as Alito’s flying the flag upside down when Biden was elected. But this, this is where she puts her foot down.

All republicans are disingenuous. However, I don’t think Supreme Court justices should do anything but Supreme Court things. They have the most impactful jobs in the country, so they don’t need to write books or give speeches or narrate films. I’m so tired of how these public servants are always trying to work some angle to make money or boost their status. If I were paid $300K to be a Supreme Court justice or $175K for Congress I wouldn’t be worrying about a side hustle. There is too much money in politics and most of these people are on the take. I’ve always said Congress people should have corporate sponsor patches on the suit jackets so we know who is paying them off.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: alien porkchop on February 06, 2026, 09:46:03 PM
happy Black History Month!

i heard he posted some racist shit but god damn.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Chalupa on February 06, 2026, 10:44:37 PM
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happy Black History Month!
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i heard he posted some racist shit but god damn.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/siladityaray/2026/02/06/gop-members-want-trump-apology-for-racist-clip-of-obamas-he-shared-then-deleted/?streamIndex=0

Then, they lied about it and tried to play it off as a Lion King meme, even though that movie didn’t have any gorillas or orangutans.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: AnimalChinaski79 on February 07, 2026, 04:47:05 AM
Michelle Obama went to Princeton.   Melania was Epstein's whore.
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Post by: Painted Baby on February 07, 2026, 03:05:14 PM
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Sen Marsha Blackburn from TN criticized SCOTUS Judge Ketanji Jackson for being at the Grammys and is insisting they probe into the attendance. She said her being there (she was nominated for a book she narrated), where anti-ICE comments were made, makes her question her ethics and whether she can remain politically impartial.

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5726897-justice-jackson-grammy-controversy/amp/

Blackburn ignored all glossed over all accusations and evidence of Clarence Thomas accepting high-value gifts as well as Alito’s flying the flag upside down when Biden was elected. But this, this is where she puts her foot down.
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All republicans are disingenuous. However, I don’t think Supreme Court justices should do anything but Supreme Court things. They have the most impactful jobs in the country, so they don’t need to write books or give speeches or narrate films. I’m so tired of how these public servants are always trying to work some angle to make money or boost their status. If I were paid $300K to be a Supreme Court justice or $175K for Congress I wouldn’t be worrying about a side hustle. There is too much money in politics and most of these people are on the take. I’ve always said Congress people should have corporate sponsor patches on the suit jackets so we know who is paying them off.
100% make them look like NASCAR drivers
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on February 07, 2026, 06:39:59 PM
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Also, I will never understand the oil industry.   Why do we still need so much oil.  We have massive surpluses
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power, control, greed
its capitalism 101


But the surplus pushes prices down.    Scarcity drives prices up, as far as I understand things
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: munchbox on February 08, 2026, 07:15:52 AM
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Also, I will never understand the oil industry.   Why do we still need so much oil.  We have massive surpluses
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power, control, greed
its capitalism 101
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But the surplus pushes prices down.    Scarcity drives prices up, as far as I understand things
surplus doesnt equate to lower prices
for high demand resources
having it all means you call the price

“surplus” means nothing in a culture
where excess is perpetually undefined
and “having it all” is the championed idea

nobody says they have a surplus of gold
it would be referred to as a vault of gold,
which will always be expanded upon to fit more gold
well before the word “surplus” is ever used

military might will be demonstrated
before there is ever a true scarcity for any resource
that is how the new world was built
and will systematically continue to operate
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: brycickle on February 08, 2026, 09:00:50 AM
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Also, I will never understand the oil industry.   Why do we still need so much oil.  We have massive surpluses
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power, control, greed
its capitalism 101
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But the surplus pushes prices down.    Scarcity drives prices up, as far as I understand things

Wrong. Biden and Obama control the oil prices.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on February 08, 2026, 09:01:41 AM
Kash Patel and the FBI conclude the Epstein wasn’t running a trafficking ring and no client list exists.

https://www.axios.com/2025/07/07/jeffrey-epstein-suicide-client-list-trump-administration

Yea, I 100% expect Trump to release Ghislane and posthumously give Epstein the Presidential Freedom Award. All before suing the victims.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: brycickle on February 08, 2026, 09:04:44 AM
Kash Patel and the FBI conclude the Epstein wasn’t running a trafficking ring and no client list exists.

https://www.axios.com/2025/07/07/jeffrey-epstein-suicide-client-list-trump-administration

Yea, I 100% expect Trump to release Ghislane and posthumously give Epstein the Presidential Freedom Award. All before suing the victims.

$20 billion seems about right.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on February 08, 2026, 09:42:25 AM
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Also, I will never understand the oil industry.   Why do we still need so much oil.  We have massive surpluses
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power, control, greed
its capitalism 101
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But the surplus pushes prices down.    Scarcity drives prices up, as far as I understand things
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surplus doesnt equate to lower prices
for high demand resources
having it all means you call the price

“surplus” means nothing in a culture
where excess is perpetually undefined
and “having it all” is the championed idea

nobody says they have a surplus of gold
it would be referred to as a vault of gold,
which will always be expanded upon to fit more gold
well before the word “surplus” is ever used

military might will be demonstrated
before there is ever a true scarcity for any resource
that is how the new world was built
and will systematically continue to operate


I googled it.  Drilling continues because:

- drilling leases require continuous drilling or you lose the lease
- it’s risky and expensive to slow or stop drilling because the well might not start pumping again
- making plans for the future when wells decline in production
- lower profit better than no profit
- regaining market share to prevent smaller producers from getting in there
-  need for constant cash flow
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Chalupa on February 08, 2026, 09:43:59 AM
Kash Patel and the FBI conclude the Epstein wasn’t running a trafficking ring and no client list exists.

https://www.axios.com/2025/07/07/jeffrey-epstein-suicide-client-list-trump-administration

Yea, I 100% expect Trump to release Ghislane and posthumously give Epstein the Presidential Freedom Award. All before suing the victims.
That’s an article from July but the current articles contain the same information. The AG said in February that the client list was sitting on her desk. After more documents got released, Patel and Bondi said no list exists.

If JE didn’t traffic girls, why is Clinton’s testimony needed? Trump himself said that the list is all Democrats.

I’m sick of all the lies. Fuck the rich and fuck the politicians who get away with actual crimes. There’s no accountability for rich bootlickers in this shithole country.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on February 08, 2026, 09:57:02 AM
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Kash Patel and the FBI conclude the Epstein wasn’t running a trafficking ring and no client list exists.

https://www.axios.com/2025/07/07/jeffrey-epstein-suicide-client-list-trump-administration

Yea, I 100% expect Trump to release Ghislane and posthumously give Epstein the Presidential Freedom Award. All before suing the victims.
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That’s an article from July but the current articles contain the same information. The AG said in February that the client list was sitting on her desk. After more documents got released, Patel and Bondi said no list exists.

If JE didn’t traffic girls, why is Clinton’s testimony needed? Trump himself said that the list is all Democrats.

I’m sick of all the lies. Fuck the rich and fuck the politicians who get away with actual crimes. There’s no accountability for rich bootlickers in this shithole country.

So many other countries are holding their leaders, who were in the list, accountable. Why can’t we?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on February 09, 2026, 02:08:22 PM
Seriously, corruption in front of our face:
https://www.politico.com/news/2026/02/09/steve-bannon-conviction-jan-6-committee-00771714

Why the need to wipe the conviction from his record? Easy, to make sure he can get security clearance once more. Fucking insane how the DOJ, FBI, DHS, DNI, etc., are all just his "yes men."

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Emo jimmy on February 11, 2026, 10:06:23 AM
Its infuriating that maxwell is getting better treatment than innocent people and victims of ice in fucking detentions centers as she attempts to bargain for clemency. Absolutely fucking insane
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on February 11, 2026, 10:11:45 AM
Its infuriating that maxwell is getting better treatment than innocent people and victims of ice in fucking detentions centers as she attempts to bargain for clemency. Absolutely fucking insane

Actions alone proves Maxwell knows too much.

But yea, I doubt any of Epstein’s victims will ever see justice while this admin is in office. The only way I assume anyone will be held accountable is only after Trump’s death. Only then will MAGA not have to fear him or his mandate for loyalty, so they’ll all feel free to be “righteous” and speak up.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Gnarfunkell on February 11, 2026, 11:49:44 AM
www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgO43uDrwas
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Monolithic Flick on February 11, 2026, 12:14:33 PM
Didn't want to bump other threads but noticed today that Hasan is repping an antihero cap.  He seems to make fashion choices with purpose so curious as to how that happened.

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Chalupa on February 11, 2026, 03:33:20 PM
https://open.substack.com/pub/chrishedges/p/the-last-election-read-by-eunice?r=53nndp&utm_medium=ios

It’s not in the article posted above, but Republicans passed the SAVE Act in the House. Tell your non-MAGA friends and relatives to get a passport and/or REAL ID as soon as possible, so they aren’t disqualified from voting. If they have a non-REAL ID, their name on the ID has to match their birth certificate to be able to vote. We’ll probably have sham elections, but we should at least try to vote these pedophile-loving bootlickers out of office.

Edit:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/feb/11/gallup-stop-tracking-presidential-approval-ratings

No more approval ratings because they don’t support Cheeto Dick’s desired approval.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Unkle Fleak on February 12, 2026, 05:51:51 PM
https://open.substack.com/pub/chrishedges/p/the-last-election-read-by-eunice?r=53nndp&utm_medium=ios

It’s not in the article posted above, but Republicans passed the SAVE Act in the House. Tell your non-MAGA friends and relatives to get a passport and/or REAL ID as soon as possible, so they aren’t disqualified from voting. If they have a non-REAL ID, their name on the ID has to match their birth certificate to be able to vote. We’ll probably have sham elections, but we should at least try to vote these pedophile-loving bootlickers out of office.

Edit:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/feb/11/gallup-stop-tracking-presidential-approval-ratings

No more approval ratings because they don’t support Cheeto Dick’s desired approval.

I just came to say this. Also, to all the people who think voting doesn’t matter. Everything they’re doing should prove the opposite to you now. Get it together. Get your asses to the poles.

Nothing in this world is more important than Democracy.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on February 12, 2026, 08:16:12 PM
Trump repeals key Greenhouse Gas findings, basically undercutting the EPA while flat out denying climate change: https://www.politico.com/news/2026/02/12/trump-epa-endangerment-finding-climate-regulation-00778446

Because, you know — fuck clean air. He keeps rambling on and on about clean burning coal and MAGA keeps eating it up as if they weren’t the ones in the mines getting black lung disease.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on February 12, 2026, 11:47:07 PM
Trump repeals key Greenhouse Gas findings, basically undercutting the EPA while flat out denying climate change: https://www.politico.com/news/2026/02/12/trump-epa-endangerment-finding-climate-regulation-00778446

Because, you know — fuck clean air. He keeps rambling on and on about clean burning coal and MAGA keeps eating it up as if they weren’t the ones in the mines getting black lung disease.

What is weird to me about this one is that is isn't hard to read thermometer, we've kept simple records of temperature for a long time, and we can do simple experiments in a classroom to show how carbon traps heat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKrpa3eLBgQ&t
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Nom De Plume on February 13, 2026, 04:58:59 AM
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https://open.substack.com/pub/chrishedges/p/the-last-election-read-by-eunice?r=53nndp&utm_medium=ios

It’s not in the article posted above, but Republicans passed the SAVE Act in the House. Tell your non-MAGA friends and relatives to get a passport and/or REAL ID as soon as possible, so they aren’t disqualified from voting. If they have a non-REAL ID, their name on the ID has to match their birth certificate to be able to vote. We’ll probably have sham elections, but we should at least try to vote these pedophile-loving bootlickers out of office.

Edit:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/feb/11/gallup-stop-tracking-presidential-approval-ratings

No more approval ratings because they don’t support Cheeto Dick’s desired approval.
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I just came to say this. Also, to all the people who think voting doesn’t matter. Everything they’re doing should prove the opposite to you now. Get it together. Get your asses to the poles.

Nothing in this world is more important than Democracy.
Nailed it. I strongly agree with all intentional and unintentional messaging in this post.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Jim and Dan on February 13, 2026, 05:02:43 AM
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Trump repeals key Greenhouse Gas findings, basically undercutting the EPA while flat out denying climate change: https://www.politico.com/news/2026/02/12/trump-epa-endangerment-finding-climate-regulation-00778446

Because, you know — fuck clean air. He keeps rambling on and on about clean burning coal and MAGA keeps eating it up as if they weren’t the ones in the mines getting black lung disease.
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What is weird to me about this one is that is isn't hard to read thermometer, we've kept simple records of temperature for a long time, and we can do simple experiments in a classroom to show how carbon traps heat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKrpa3eLBgQ&t

No amount of science is going to sway their opinion and truly, it's not even about that, it's about kickbacks, personal enrichment, lobbying and the all-mighty dollar...

The whole system is a sham until politicians can't be bought by corporate interest, but sadly, that's never going to happen in my lifetime, as all previous attempts have failed, been repealed or simply loopholes were exploited to get around the rules...

And of course they are going to try and rig the midterm elections with the SAVE Act and whatever other jackboot thug tactics they try and pull, but we can't let that stop us, we need to take it to the streets if necessary, as our only hope is that we can vote these despicable people out of office and vote with our dollars. This past year is going to mobilize a lot of people who abstained from voting in the last cycle, whether they will actually be able to vote is to be seen...

This country is a fucking joke...

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: augustmoon on February 13, 2026, 05:18:47 AM
They know it’s too late.  They’re trying to extract as much wealth and install authoritarianism before climate collapse becomes impossible to ignore. 
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on February 13, 2026, 05:58:16 AM
They know it’s too late.  They’re trying to extract as much wealth and install authoritarianism before climate collapse becomes impossible to ignore.

They always knew about it. Oil and gas company execs simply chose to do nothing about the problem and focus on profits and pass the problems onto future generations. And they're still doing it.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Chalupa on February 13, 2026, 06:07:23 AM
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They know it’s too late.  They’re trying to extract as much wealth and install authoritarianism before climate collapse becomes impossible to ignore.
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They always knew about it. Oil and gas company execs simply chose to do nothing about the problem and focus on profits and pass the problems onto future generations. And they're still doing it.
When they were greenwashing, the oil companies were giving tips on how people can lower their individual carbon footprint…fuck those ghouls.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: WarmUpZone on February 13, 2026, 07:27:25 AM
It has been another in a seemingly endless series of tough weeks for American (and for the rest of the world, because of America). I read something I had written in a post here almost a year ago and it was helpful so I'll repost it now.

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I, and any other reasonable American, struggle daily with what is happening and the feeling of powerlessness. Learning that our rights are not inalienable and checks-and-balances was not enforceable has been a tough transition, and even if things recover politically, the illusion of it all can never return. I, personally, have the most trouble with comprehending how other people can seem to be enjoying the cruelty and misfortune.

That being said, please please try to enjoy the little things in front of you. It is ok to take a break from the news and social media and just focus on some of the good things that can come with the human experience: foods you enjoy, skating, music, playing with your dog, your favorite movie... whatever it may be.

Sadly, having compassion and dignity is an act of rebellion for an American these days, so if you can express that just a little bit then you have done something to fight the horrible shift in values we are experiencing. We may not be able to end the hate, violence, emotional stupidity, bullying, and cruelty being inflicted upon us (and infecting so many), but we can make the world a little better for someone in a small way and that does make a difference.

I hope everyone out there stays safe and is able to muster up a tiny bit of kindness and joy. This country and perhaps world may be heading to shit, but that doesn't mean our specific communities have to go there as well.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on February 13, 2026, 11:25:00 AM
It has been another in a seemingly endless series of tough weeks for American (and for the rest of the world, because of America). I read something I had written in a post here almost a year ago and it was helpful so I'll repost it now.

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I, and any other reasonable American, struggle daily with what is happening and the feeling of powerlessness. Learning that our rights are not inalienable and checks-and-balances was not enforceable has been a tough transition, and even if things recover politically, the illusion of it all can never return. I, personally, have the most trouble with comprehending how other people can seem to be enjoying the cruelty and misfortune.

That being said, please please try to enjoy the little things in front of you. It is ok to take a break from the news and social media and just focus on some of the good things that can come with the human experience: foods you enjoy, skating, music, playing with your dog, your favorite movie... whatever it may be.

Sadly, having compassion and dignity is an act of rebellion for an American these days, so if you can express that just a little bit then you have done something to fight the horrible shift in values we are experiencing. We may not be able to end the hate, violence, emotional stupidity, bullying, and cruelty being inflicted upon us (and infecting so many), but we can make the world a little better for someone in a small way and that does make a difference.
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I hope everyone out there stays safe and is able to muster up a tiny bit of kindness and joy. This country and perhaps world may be heading to shit, but that doesn't mean our specific communities have to go there as well.

I agree with this. It's emotionally draining that even during the Olympics, when Americans should be uniting to cheer on our athletes, I'm seeing people vilify people winning for America. Calling fellow Americans fake-Americans and hoping they lose and/or leave and/or cheer their less than gold performances.

Saw a family acquaintance on Meta whine how if USA had a real American on the team, they would have won Gold instead of Silver. I had to reply and said that "fake American" brought home two golds prior and was happy to see her protege win gold. That's the olympic spirit. The response from them was tiring.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: AnimalChinaski79 on February 14, 2026, 05:17:05 AM
Fuck every MAGA piece of shit out there.  I'll never forgive or forget what they've enabled this country to become.  I don't care if they're family or not either.  Fuck them.  Simpleton bigot billionaire bootlickers.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: EdLawndale on February 14, 2026, 07:43:13 AM
Didn't somebody here suggest the administration is trying to let the USPS fail so they can bankrupt it, get their grubby hands all in it and kill mail-in voting?

I saw a recent article about the USPS's fiscal losses recently and immediately thought of that.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Bupstop on February 14, 2026, 08:55:16 AM
Didn't somebody here suggest the administration is trying to let the USPS fail so they can bankrupt it, get their grubby hands all in it and kill mail-in voting?

I saw a recent article about the USPS's fiscal losses recently and immediately thought of that.

I read somewhere too that they want the usps to fail so they can have amazon take over for the post offices.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on February 14, 2026, 09:41:18 AM
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Didn't somebody here suggest the administration is trying to let the USPS fail so they can bankrupt it, get their grubby hands all in it and kill mail-in voting?

I saw a recent article about the USPS's fiscal losses recently and immediately thought of that.
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I read somewhere too that they want the usps to fail so they can have amazon take over for the post offices.

They never fully said it, but the implication was there. Trump’s former postmaster DeJoy had stock in UPS and other conflicting companies.

Things he implemented made USPS less efficient such as killing sorting machines for the slower hand sorting. Then Trump also constantly claimed the USPS was losing money every year. Thing in, USPS is a SERVICE not a BUSINESS.

USPS is especially needed in rural areas where mail is sent to these areas for pennies on the dollar, versus if FedEx sent it, that same postage would be hundreds of dollars more.

Basically, GOP want to privatize everything. Jails, social securiy, health, military, etc. Its more profitable to them when you own stock in a company that gets government contracts.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Painted Baby on February 14, 2026, 10:52:52 AM
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Didn't somebody here suggest the administration is trying to let the USPS fail so they can bankrupt it, get their grubby hands all in it and kill mail-in voting?

I saw a recent article about the USPS's fiscal losses recently and immediately thought of that.
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I read somewhere too that they want the usps to fail so they can have amazon take over for the post offices.
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They never fully said it, but the implication was there. Trump’s former postmaster DeJoy had stock in UPS and other conflicting companies.

Things he implemented made USPS less efficient such as killing sorting machines for the slower hand sorting. Then Trump also constantly claimed the USPS was losing money every year. Thing in, USPS is a SERVICE not a BUSINESS.

USPS is especially needed in rural areas where mail is sent to these areas for pennies on the dollar, versus if FedEx sent it, that same postage would be hundreds of dollars more.

Basically, GOP want to privatize everything. Jails, social securiy, health, military, etc. Its more profitable to them when you own stock in a company that gets government contracts.
Yeah @EdLawndale that's been my bugaboo about the USPS for years so I've probably griped about it somewhere before. The stuff that's gone down with Lewis DeJoy is just another step in the plan to eliminate a necessary service. It stretches back to a Bush era law that compelled the USPS to prefund the pensions for all of their staff going forward for the next 75 years, and they had a 10 year window to come up with the funding. It took a functioning service that was being disrupted by the adoption of email and kneecapped their budget. Going forward, the GOP Congress could always say it was struggling financially and maybe we'd just be better off letting Jeff Bezos take the wheel.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postal_Accountability_and_Enhancement_Act

I saw the Antihero hat on Hasan's stream too. This is fried Hollywood shit but I think he probably hired a stylist recently because his fits have been more subdued. The Gifted Hater roast of his fits is all-time. I think since the Twitch ban he's dumped the gamer overhead cam for something a little more fireside chat too.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: augustmoon on February 15, 2026, 04:05:06 PM
Interesting reading:


https://x.com/raydalio/status/2022788750388998543?s=46

Lots of relevant parallels
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on February 15, 2026, 07:34:40 PM
Interesting reading:


https://x.com/raydalio/status/2022788750388998543?s=46

Lots of relevant parallels

Bullet points, screenshots, or copypasta?
Not ever going to click anything that’s on skuMs twattler.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on February 15, 2026, 08:24:07 PM
Pretty funny how GOP are claiming MN Rep, Ilhan Omar, threatened Trump’s life.

What she said: “In my country, we put pedophiles to death.”

Pretty funny and telling how MAGA are really know what Trump is and are still defending him.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on February 16, 2026, 12:57:03 AM
Trump succeeded in getting Canada to spend more on defense... but instead of giving 75% of its defense money to American companies, Canada is going to expand spending domestically.
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/15/world/canada/canada-military-spending.html

Also, Canadians can travel to China visa free and Canada will be getting Chinese cars. Trump wanted American car manufacturers out of Canada, I wonder if BYD is going to take their spot. Trump's buddy Musk won't like Mexico/Canada having access to better cars that are half the price of a Tesla.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on February 16, 2026, 08:34:58 AM
Trump’s DOJ said they releases all the files according to the Epstein Transparency Act. Kinda in bad faith seeing how they redacted names of perps and left the info of victims. Also how there’s supposedly 6million+ files and Bondi released about half of that. Most only recently, under pressure, and still heavily redacted.

Epstein’s victims will never know justice under this administration all while Ghislane Maxwell is living a privileged life in minimum security facility.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cz7genjx9njo
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: KoRnholio8 on February 16, 2026, 12:36:02 PM
There will be no justice for these fools. Even if Democrats win the next elections, persecuting every Republican scumbag for four years is just going to be bad optics (and just how many can you convict with due process in this time?). The right will simply come together again under the guise of being unfairly persecuted. The only way this does not happen is for GOP to implode in the next three years and do some clean-up themselves.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on February 16, 2026, 01:13:15 PM
There will be no justice for these fools. Even if Democrats win the next elections, persecuting every Republican scumbag for four years is just going to be bad optics (and just how many can you convict with due process in this time?). The right will simply come together again under the guise of being unfairly persecuted. The only way this does not happen is for GOP to implode in the next three years and do some clean-up themselves.

Hopefully, if this happens, most GOP who aren't in the files will flip on those who are in the files for immunity.

In reality, I really want to see Trump, Bondi, and Kash prosecuted the most. Bondi and Patel took a look at all the files and still opted to protect Trump rather than the innocent.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on February 16, 2026, 03:56:26 PM
Oh shit. Guess they couldn’t stop the Pedo President from being exposed.
(https://i.postimg.cc/mrHKVtsT/IMG-6508.png) (https://postimg.cc/94cxQX0k)
https://newrepublic.com/post/206599/evidence-trump-epstein-pam-bondi

“[REDACTED] stated Epstein introduced her to Trump who subsequently forced her head down to his exposed penis which she subsequently bit. In response, Trump punched her in the head and kicked her out,” reads the first entry, noting that the victim would have been between 13 and 15 years old and that the incident took place sometime between 1983 and 1985.
But the second accusation against the president, which involves Trump agreeing with Epstein that a 14-year-old victim was a “good one,” carries a different kind of credibility inside the DOJ, since the person who provided the statement was also used as a key government witness to convict Maxwell, according to the files.
“[REDACTED] remembered Epstein introduced her to Trump saying ‘This is a good one, huh’ and Trump responded ‘Yes’. (date range roughly 1984, [REDACTED] would have been 14),” the slide reads.
Trump was mentioned more than 38,000 times in the latest batch of Epstein files, and was flagged in more than 5,300 files in the document cache.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on February 16, 2026, 03:59:13 PM
Oh shit. Guess they couldn’t stop the Pedo President from being exposed.
(https://i.postimg.cc/mrHKVtsT/IMG-6508.png) (https://postimg.cc/94cxQX0k)
https://newrepublic.com/post/206599/evidence-trump-epstein-pam-bondi

“[REDACTED] stated Epstein introduced her to Trump who subsequently forced her head down to his exposed penis which she subsequently bit. In response, Trump punched her in the head and kicked her out,” reads the first entry, noting that the victim would have been between 13 and 15 years old and that the incident took place sometime between 1983 and 1985.
But the second accusation against the president, which involves Trump agreeing with Epstein that a 14-year-old victim was a “good one,” carries a different kind of credibility inside the DOJ, since the person who provided the statement was also used as a key government witness to convict Maxwell, according to the files.
“[REDACTED] remembered Epstein introduced her to Trump saying ‘This is a good one, huh’ and Trump responded ‘Yes’. (date range roughly 1984, [REDACTED] would have been 14),” the slide reads.
Trump was mentioned more than 38,000 times in the latest batch of Epstein files, and was flagged in more than 5,300 files in the document cache.

But the DOW is at 50,000!!!
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: AnimalChinaski79 on February 17, 2026, 03:04:08 AM
Watching a few of these other countries like England and France start holding investigations in regards to the files will only make this country look worse for doing nothing. 
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on February 17, 2026, 05:59:13 AM
Watching a few of these other countries like England and France start holding investigations in regards to the files will only make this country look worse for doing nothing.

Why do you think Bondi and the GOP are having Bill and Hillary testify? They’re trying to make examples out of them, so they can show the world they’re doing something about the Epstein Files while protecting their own.

Hell, even Trump said he was going to have Bondi open investigations into [just] Democrats who were mentioned in the files.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Chalupa on February 17, 2026, 08:28:14 AM
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Watching a few of these other countries like England and France start holding investigations in regards to the files will only make this country look worse for doing nothing.
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Why do you think Bondi and the GOP are having Bill and Hillary testify? They’re trying to make examples out of them, so they can show the world they’re doing something about the Epstein Files while protecting their own.

Hell, even Trump said he was going to have Bondi open investigations into [just] Democrats who were mentioned in the files.
Their base will eat it up. Anytime I see a social media post about Trump & Epstein, some boomer or Russian troll posts a photoshopped picture of Obama standing with Epstein.

Hearing Maxwell say that she can testify that Clinton didn’t do anything wrong makes me not care what happens to him. She’s a liar just like Cheeto Dick.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: S. on February 17, 2026, 08:43:10 AM
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Watching a few of these other countries like England and France start holding investigations in regards to the files will only make this country look worse for doing nothing.
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Why do you think Bondi and the GOP are having Bill and Hillary testify? They’re trying to make examples out of them, so they can show the world they’re doing something about the Epstein Files while protecting their own.

Hell, even Trump said he was going to have Bondi open investigations into [just] Democrats who were mentioned in the files.
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Their base will eat it up. Anytime I see a social media post about Trump & Epstein, some boomer or Russian troll posts a photoshopped picture of Obama standing with Epstein.

Hearing Maxwell say that she can testify that Clinton didn’t do anything wrong makes me not care what happens to him. She’s a liar just like Cheeto Dick.


Don’t these people have a lot of dirt on each other? I don’t think the Clintons will say much and I don’t think the Republicans will press them too much. If they do the Clintons could probably make it real messy. I kind of hope that will happen. None of the people who used to party with Epstein should have a career in politics. That there will probably be little to no consequences for anyone tells you all you need to know about how fucked the American democracy really is.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Allen. on February 17, 2026, 08:53:00 AM
There will be no justice for these fools. Even if Democrats win the next elections, persecuting every Republican scumbag for four years is just going to be bad optics (and just how many can you convict with due process in this time?). The right will simply come together again under the guise of being unfairly persecuted. The only way this does not happen is for GOP to implode in the next three years and do some clean-up themselves.

Nuremberg 2 Electric Boogaloo
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: AnimalChinaski79 on February 17, 2026, 02:55:02 PM
I watch this guy on Youtube.  Breaks it down pretty good IMO.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iri_xg4rj_k&t=4s
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Emo jimmy on February 19, 2026, 11:14:11 AM
That stupid fucking idiot just announced he wants to transfer his madeup ass board of peace 10 billion taxpayer dollars while his stupid ass tariffs cost working familes at the absolute least 1k

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on February 19, 2026, 11:19:01 AM
That stupid fucking idiot just announced he wants to transfer his madeup ass board of peace 10 billion taxpayer dollars while his stupid ass tariffs cost working familes at the absolute least 1k

Board of Peace as he bombed Venezuela and is about to start a war with Iran.

Also, of course this is just another avenue to take taxpayers' money.

Then when a Dem gets in office, MAGA will be back to scrutinizing every cost, asking, "where are we going to get the money for this?!"
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: KoRnholio8 on February 19, 2026, 12:22:57 PM
So essentially the lil piggy wants to start a real estate project in Gaza with taxpayer money. Very on brand.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on February 19, 2026, 01:22:10 PM
So essentially the lil piggy wants to start a real estate project in Gaza with taxpayer money. Very on brand.

Basically. His son-in-law presented plans for “New Gaza” at the Davos conference the other month.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on February 19, 2026, 06:56:25 PM
Well, IG won’t give me the option to post on jazzy pants Vance or tRumps posts anymore so….
Who wants to copy pasta this for me?

DOJ ATTEMPTS TO SCRUB TRUMPS CRIMES FROM EPSTEIN FILES:
The Department of Justice spoke four separate times to a woman who credibly accused Donald Trump of having sex with a minor he met through Jeffrey Epstein—but most accusations against the president appear to have been removed from the government’s documents on the alleged sex trafficker.

A 21-page slideshow buried in the massive trove of Epstein-related documents included allegations that sometime between 1983 and 1985, Trump forced a woman to give him oral sex when she was in her early teens. When the woman bit down on Trump’s exposed penis, he allegedly punched her in the head and kicked her out. That same woman told the DOJ that Epstein had introduced her to Trump in 1984.

Yet last week, Attorney General Pam Bondi insisted that there was “no evidence” that Trump had committed any crime—adding to the growing pile of denials from Trump officials that constitute a sweeping cover-up of the president’s alleged wrongdoing.
Justice Department records indicate that the FBI spoke to this woman not once but at least four separate times, according to independent journalist Roger Sollenberger. Now those records appear to have been removed from public viewing—despite the Epstein Files Transparency Act, which requires all documents relating to the alleged sex trafficker to be made public. 

Sollenberger discovered a record of four separate interviews, which took place in the summer of 2019, in a separate database of documents downloaded from the government’s public files on Epstein. That document indicated that the first of the four interviews was conducted on July 24, 2019, and the last conducted on October 16, 2019. That document was given to Ghislaine Maxwell’s lawyers as part of her trial, though the specific allegations predated Maxwell’s involvement with Epstein, Sollenberger wrote.
The woman’s first interview was entered into the FBI’s case files on August 9, 2019, just one day before Epstein was found dead in his jail cell. FBI agents typically have a deadline of five working days to file interview write-ups, indicating an abnormal 16-day gap, Sollenberger noted.

Thanks
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Unkle Fleak on February 19, 2026, 09:26:17 PM
ALIENS ARE REAL! (Dont talk about the files)
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: GardenSkater77 on February 20, 2026, 08:04:26 AM
Finally! Tariffs dunzo!!!

Suck on that Trump!

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn8146l0n55o
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Emo jimmy on February 20, 2026, 08:22:26 AM
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Board of Peace as he bombed Venezuela and is about to start a war with Iran.

Also, of course this is just another avenue to take taxpayers' money.

Then when a Dem gets in office, MAGA will be back to scrutinizing every cost, asking, "where are we going to get the money for this?!"
Beyond tired of this talking point! I think at this point it only works with the most bootlicking fox news watching delusional boomer crowd.

I think they know in time its a wrap getting people on board with their bs and younger generations are gonna demand more so they are actively ramping up societal collapse to stave off progress and hoard wealth while they can
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Emo jimmy on February 20, 2026, 08:24:24 AM
Finally! Tariffs dunzo!!!

Suck on that Trump!

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn8146l0n55o
I hate that this demon most likely wont take his L without trying to do something stupid
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on February 20, 2026, 08:45:28 AM
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Finally! Tariffs dunzo!!!

Suck on that Trump!

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn8146l0n55o
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I hate that this demon most likely wont take his L without trying to do something stupid

Because this administration is known for listening to the rulings of judges…
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Rusty Shackleford on February 20, 2026, 08:48:45 AM
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Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on February 20, 2026, 09:40:06 AM
Also, with the tariffs being deemed illegal, don't except things to get cheaper. Yes, businesses will stop paying tariffs, but instead of passing the costs onto you, they'll just keep prices where they're at and announce record profits at the end of the year.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: GardenSkater77 on February 20, 2026, 09:42:14 AM
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Finally! Tariffs dunzo!!!

Suck on that Trump!

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn8146l0n55o
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I hate that this demon most likely wont take his L without trying to do something stupid
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Because this administration is known for listening to the rulings of judges…

Trump always goes to the Supreme Court when he does not like lower court rulings. He has to respect the Supreme Court. Also, who will collect and pay tariffs now? And I expect lawsuits from other countries. I think this is the one that puts to bed this nonsense.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Rusty Shackleford on February 20, 2026, 11:18:59 AM
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what an asshole
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on February 20, 2026, 11:19:48 AM
(https://i.postimg.cc/9X9pQnJS/IMG-6576.png) (https://postimg.cc/Wt2r9XR6)
As for the person that said prices aren’t going down even though the tariffs were deemed illegal, they’re correct. Shit didn’t go down after Covid price hikes or tRumps first term tariffs were gone. It’s price gouging 101.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Marion Stoked on February 20, 2026, 05:35:31 PM
Didn't want to bump other threads but noticed today that Hasan is repping an antihero cap.  He seems to make fashion choices with purpose so curious as to how that happened.

Shill for the Deep Skate.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: pugmaster on February 20, 2026, 07:10:58 PM
Just imagine how loud the cheering will be. The absolute joy that will be felt and expressed by tens of millions of Americans who pour into the city streets. The millions, if not billions, who are situated around the globe that enthusiastically shout from the depths of their souls, "rot in hell, tRump!"

With each day that passes, that day draws nearer.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Emo jimmy on February 20, 2026, 08:55:52 PM
They absolutely need to run us checks
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on February 20, 2026, 10:12:42 PM
They absolutely need to run us checks

Not gonna happen. As states and businesses sue the DOJ and Treasury for money lost from tariffs, MAGA will once again argue, "where are we going to get the money to pay for this?"

While ignoring the fact they never questioned these spenditures:
$10,000,000,000 for Trump's lawsuit for having his taxes released
$10,000,000,000 to Board of Peace which allows Trump to spend it as he sees
$1,000,000,000 to retrofit the security for the plane Trump accepted from the Saudis
$400,000,000 on unapproved East Wing Construction on the White House
$200,000,000 on two new planes for Kristi Noem
$250,000+ per BMW for Kash Patel knowing he has a fleet of Chevys
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: tuesday on February 20, 2026, 10:47:03 PM
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Finally! Tariffs dunzo!!!

Suck on that Trump!

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn8146l0n55o
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I hate that this demon most likely wont take his L without trying to do something stupid
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Because this administration is known for listening to the rulings of judges…
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Trump always goes to the Supreme Court when he does not like lower court rulings. He has to respect the Supreme Court. Also, who will collect and pay tariffs now? And I expect lawsuits from other countries. I think this is the one that puts to bed this nonsense.

He and his maga regime will not. You are still thinking in democratic terms.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on February 20, 2026, 11:28:01 PM
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They absolutely need to run us checks
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Not gonna happen. As states and businesses sue the DOJ and Treasury for money lost from tariffs, MAGA will once again argue, "where are we going to get the money to pay for this?"

While ignoring the fact they never questioned these spenditures:
$10,000,000,000 for Trump's lawsuit for having his taxes released
$10,000,000,000 to Board of Peace which allows Trump to spend it as he sees
$1,000,000,000 to retrofit the security for the plane Trump accepted from the Saudis
$400,000,000 on unapproved East Wing Construction on the White House
$200,000,000 on two new planes for Kristi Noem
$250,000+ per BMW for Kash Patel knowing he has a fleet of Chevys


We may end up paying interest to the companies that paid tariffs.

Also, this may be a bureaucratic nightmare. Not all the tariffs go away, just the one's Trump used a 1977 law to justify.   

All of the grift bothers me, but the bolded costs above annoy me on a personal level. American government officials having shitty American made cars is actually a point of pride. It shows that they aren't in those positions for their our own gain, but to do good.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on February 21, 2026, 12:25:36 AM
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They absolutely need to run us checks
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Not gonna happen. As states and businesses sue the DOJ and Treasury for money lost from tariffs, MAGA will once again argue, "where are we going to get the money to pay for this?"

While ignoring the fact they never questioned these spenditures:
$10,000,000,000 for Trump's lawsuit for having his taxes released
$10,000,000,000 to Board of Peace which allows Trump to spend it as he sees
$1,000,000,000 to retrofit the security for the plane Trump accepted from the Saudis
$400,000,000 on unapproved East Wing Construction on the White House
$200,000,000 on two new planes for Kristi Noem
$250,000+ per BMW for Kash Patel knowing he has a fleet of Chevys

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We may end up paying interest to the companies that paid tariffs.

Also, this may be a bureaucratic nightmare. Not all the tariffs go away, just the one's Trump used a 1977 law to justify.   

All of the grift bothers me, but the bolded costs above annoy me on a personal level. American government officials having shitty American made cars is actually a point of pride. It shows that they aren't in those positions for their our own gain, but to do good.

The bold doesn’t include Noem’s new request for another jet with luxury interior, big screen TV, and a bedroom.

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on February 21, 2026, 02:35:25 AM
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They absolutely need to run us checks
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Not gonna happen. As states and businesses sue the DOJ and Treasury for money lost from tariffs, MAGA will once again argue, "where are we going to get the money to pay for this?"

While ignoring the fact they never questioned these spenditures:
$10,000,000,000 for Trump's lawsuit for having his taxes released
$10,000,000,000 to Board of Peace which allows Trump to spend it as he sees
$1,000,000,000 to retrofit the security for the plane Trump accepted from the Saudis
$400,000,000 on unapproved East Wing Construction on the White House
$200,000,000 on two new planes for Kristi Noem
$250,000+ per BMW for Kash Patel knowing he has a fleet of Chevys

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We may end up paying interest to the companies that paid tariffs.

Also, this may be a bureaucratic nightmare. Not all the tariffs go away, just the one's Trump used a 1977 law to justify.   

All of the grift bothers me, but the bolded costs above annoy me on a personal level. American government officials having shitty American made cars is actually a point of pride. It shows that they aren't in those positions for their our own gain, but to do good.


Don’t forget that $1B to change all the Defense Dept stuff to Dept of War (even though that change didn’t go through Congress so it’s not its actual name).   Changi
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on February 21, 2026, 06:27:21 AM
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They absolutely need to run us checks
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Not gonna happen. As states and businesses sue the DOJ and Treasury for money lost from tariffs, MAGA will once again argue, "where are we going to get the money to pay for this?"

While ignoring the fact they never questioned these spenditures:
$10,000,000,000 for Trump's lawsuit for having his taxes released
$10,000,000,000 to Board of Peace which allows Trump to spend it as he sees
$1,000,000,000 to retrofit the security for the plane Trump accepted from the Saudis
$400,000,000 on unapproved East Wing Construction on the White House
$200,000,000 on two new planes for Kristi Noem
$250,000+ per BMW for Kash Patel knowing he has a fleet of Chevys

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We may end up paying interest to the companies that paid tariffs.

Also, this may be a bureaucratic nightmare. Not all the tariffs go away, just the one's Trump used a 1977 law to justify.   

All of the grift bothers me, but the bolded costs above annoy me on a personal level. American government officials having shitty American made cars is actually a point of pride. It shows that they aren't in those positions for their our own gain, but to do good.
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Don’t forget that $1B to change all the Defense Dept stuff to Dept of War (even though that change didn’t go through Congress so it’s not its actual name).   Changi

Same with the Kennedy Center

And speaking of renaming, Florida House passed a bill to rename West Palm Beach Airport to Donald Trump Airport. Just days after Trump filed a trademark for the name, which means Floridians’ tax money will go to paying Trump licensing fees every year for the use of the name.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Rusty Shackleford on February 21, 2026, 08:44:13 AM
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fuckin' nutlick, man
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on February 21, 2026, 08:51:06 AM
Look up Pam Bondi’s brother, a lawyer as well. He got hired by a big firm and a lot of his big clients’ cases are suddenly being dropped and or easily settled by the DOJ. Earning him big paychecks and position within his firm.

Not suspicious, right?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Cuban_Lynx on February 21, 2026, 09:33:07 AM
Look up Pam Bondi’s brother, a lawyer as well. He got hired by a big firm and a lot of his big clients’ cases are suddenly being dropped and or easily settled by the DOJ. Earning him big paychecks and position within his firm.

Not suspicious, right?

She does a good job summarizing this.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DU6vpVtjxzv/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

Also, tariffs at 15% now? Fucking anything to distract from the Epstein files.

(https://scontent-ord5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/637799111_1291895519469763_7800481323172013984_n.jpg?stp=dst-jpg_s640x640_tt6&_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=13d280&_nc_ohc=tHBko2R-VQ4Q7kNvwEz5jIA&_nc_oc=Adk2o3uPCdxknmP4tkEp6cfz1HLSYoav7AuwyNoUaBqvjSVNXYuNn9oIJgcbvDbxFsid--Z6gEha7XL7X5m014og&_nc_zt=23&_nc_ht=scontent-ord5-1.xx&_nc_gid=5iCmyRwbsNv6KgjGonPKug&oh=00_Afuuqn4dX4vXL0iYs0wWZg9HWmteUGnkkNbuBvQfVOdgjQ&oe=699FD320)
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: GardenSkater77 on February 21, 2026, 09:47:31 AM
Here’s Krugman’s perspective on the ruling.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?si=iRwOPDxF-hIRYXBI&v=GDxK6Yd-53Y&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on February 21, 2026, 01:09:11 PM
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fuckin' nutlick, man

How do you buy a already paid tariff? Is there a really a market for already paid bills for the hopes that there is a policy change or a refund offered?

How can ownership of everything be transferred from one person to another.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: GardenSkater77 on February 21, 2026, 02:21:16 PM
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fuckin' nutlick, man
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How do you buy a already paid tariff? Is there a really a market for already paid bills for the hopes that there is a policy change or a refund offered?

How can ownership of everything be transferred from one person to another.

Assume Lurper Inc is cash poor due to tariffs. I come to you and give you cash for the right to sue the government on behalf of the amount you paid. However, I get all the money if I win.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on February 21, 2026, 02:23:10 PM
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fuckin' nutlick, man
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How do you buy a already paid tariff? Is there a really a market for already paid bills for the hopes that there is a policy change or a refund offered?

How can ownership of everything be transferred from one person to another.


Yeah this administration has opened up a world of financial fuckery I never even knew existed
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Chalupa on February 21, 2026, 02:37:56 PM
I always thought this country can’t get any worse for the past year, but I keep getting proven wrong. After the Renee Good execution, I lost the tiny bit of faith I had in America.

In the Epstein files, Peter Thiel and Epstein talked about pushing culture wars to divide people, so they can run the country into the ground, in order to buy businesses and land for cheap.

Aside from MacKenzie Scott and Melinda Gates, every billionaire is a piece of shit.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: ToySanta on February 21, 2026, 08:51:49 PM
I always thought this country can’t get any worse for the past year, but I keep getting proven wrong. After the Renee Good execution, I lost the tiny bit of faith I had in America.

In the Epstein files, Peter Thiel and Epstein talked about pushing culture wars to divide people, so they can run the country into the ground, in order to buy businesses and land for cheap.

Aside from MacKenzie Scott and Melinda Gates, every billionaire is a piece of shit.

They’re still pieces of shit, in my opinion, because they are complicit in the ways they & their now ex-husbands earned their money. All the money Scott givesnaway doesn’t undo businesses she shut down, the stress induced illnesses workers have, the warehouse workers whose jobs are threatened if they leave during a tornado, etc.

I am not opposed to them giving their money away to positive causes but the system is setup to where neither will ever have less money. I want to see a billionaire throw their millions at identifying and overturning bad laws, like the one in Arizona from the 1800s that led to the abortion ban, i.e. Root out the rotten system.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on February 22, 2026, 12:32:18 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/1zGyf2rg/IMG-6582.png) (https://postimg.cc/bGw756M8)
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/feb/21/us-farmers-datacenters

Well, now tRumps decisions about tariffs and pushing Argentinian beef are starting to make sense. Bankrupt the farms and buy their land for your developers and tech bros for pennies. Gotta love skuM and theils push for this administration.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: GardenSkater77 on February 22, 2026, 12:53:22 PM
Soy bean farmers are going to have find another crop or go bankrupt. Trump gave Argentina a bail out and allowed them sell Soy Beans to China way to go dumb ass.

Trump basically collapsed an entire sector that we should do well in. Probably sending the Argentina bailout to them to launder it. Sick.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on February 22, 2026, 01:24:08 PM
Soy bean farmers are going to have find another crop or go bankrupt. Trump gave Argentina a bail out and allowed them sell Soy Beans to China way to go dumb ass.

Trump basically collapsed an entire sector that we should do well in. Probably sending the Argentina bailout to them to launder it. Sick.

And he did it TWICE. He fucked them over in 2018 with his trade war with China resulting in many losing half their contracts, requiring a $16,000,000,000 bailout from taxpayers.

Then farmers voted for him AGAIN and AGAIN and now lost their livlihoods.

Best part is when you hear them rant, they blame the “gubbamint” for not taking care of Americans. Trying to deflect that TRUMP IS THE GUBBAMINT!

Fuck those farmers. Let them lose their farms.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on February 22, 2026, 01:25:51 PM
Also, Kash Patel’s PR said that the FBI Director was not at the Olympics on taxpayers’ dime and that any instance of it is fake news.

Motherfucker was just caught on camera partying in the US Mens Hockey’s locker room, celebrating with them after winning gold.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: RichardBarkley on February 24, 2026, 11:35:24 AM
Just 2% of Epstein files have been released.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on February 24, 2026, 12:51:10 PM
Just 2% of Epstein files have been released.

That’s more than I thought the DOJ would let get out.

Also, former ICE attorney who was also the whistleblower testified to congress that recruits weren’t taught gun safety and constitutional rights of protestors while also being instructed to teach recruits to violate the 4th amendment.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: ToySanta on February 24, 2026, 05:40:00 PM
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Just 2% of Epstein files have been released.
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That’s more than I thought the DOJ would let get out.

Also, former ICE attorney who was also the whistleblower testified to congress that recruits weren’t taught gun safety and constitutional rights of protestors while also being instructed to teach recruits to violate the 4th amendment.

2%?? JESUS. What’s the hold up? Nevermind, it’d be so much worse if they had dropped even more by now. Not like it’s gonna lead to accountability or consequences.

There’s this article from an anti-ICE journalist who was handed a job there because the only thorough thing they do is shoot innocent civilians: https://archive.ph/20260202183327/https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2026/01/ice-recruitment-minneapolis-shooting.html

And John Oliver is back for anyone who wants his summary of ICE. Basically, DHS has lowered the standards of employment so much almost anyone can get hired. Except that even then some of the applicants failed an open book test. I am so embarrassed by my country.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-KDUOHEZFk
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Eh on February 24, 2026, 10:31:01 PM
State of the Union personal recap:

-The opening applause was almost humorously lengthy. This, I think, could have been the entirety of the event for dear D.

-A protester was removed at the beginning of the speech: I didn’t catch what his sign said, but it was grasped at by someone as he was escorted out.

-Ilhan Ohmar loudly vocalized her dismay; the only person on camera to have done so (I may have missed someone).

-Multiple family tragedies due to illegal aliens were mentioned and Delilah’s law was introduced.

-An investment fund is being provided to some children, funded by Dell’s founder; you’ll have to find the numbers for this.

-The Men’s hockey team was the first surprise game show like appearance. Jack Hughes was the only member who approached Eric Voler’s level of comportment.

-Eric Voler was presented the Congressional Medal of Honor along with a centenarian WWII veteran.

-The President said he’d award himself it if the law changed. And, prior to that he hinted at a third term.

-There was near unanimous support from the minority party only once: when firefighters were commended.

I did wonder if JD Vance likes black metal and why Mike Johnson definitely doesn’t.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Painted Baby on February 24, 2026, 11:09:34 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/DVKmpVcDD2F/
I wouldn't invite JD to any shows
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: OldieButFrenchie on February 25, 2026, 03:52:10 AM
Watching a few of these other countries like England and France start holding investigations in regards to the files will only make this country look worse for doing nothing.

just to chime in about that from a French perspective: the only person really involved in all this for the moment seems to be Jack Lang. and it's just unbelievable that guy is still around and being paid off public money...He's 86! He was minister for Culture when Mitterand, the first French socialist president came to power in 81. I was still in primary school! and I'm old myself  ::)
he was still president of the Arab World Institute in Paris until February, till the Epstein thing.
plus the guy has signed numerous petitions in support of pedophiles, in the glory days of Foucaut and the French intellectuals of 1968 (the "nothing is forbidden" days), he was also famously caught "fooling around" with young moroccon boys in Casablanca, in the 2000's....Good riddance.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: AnimalChinaski79 on February 25, 2026, 09:15:25 AM
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Watching a few of these other countries like England and France start holding investigations in regards to the files will only make this country look worse for doing nothing.
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just to chime in about that from a French perspective: the only person really involved in all this for the moment seems to be Jack Lang. and it's just unbelievable that guy is still around and being paid off public money...He's 86! He was minister for Culture when Mitterand, the first French socialist president came to power in 81. I was still in primary school! and I'm old myself  ::)
he was still president of the Arab World Institute in Paris until February, till the Epstein thing.
plus the guy has signed numerous petitions in support of pedophiles, in the glory days of Foucaut and the French intellectuals of 1968 (the "nothing is forbidden" days), he was also famously caught "fooling around" with young moroccon boys in Casablanca, in the 2000's....Good riddance.

Jesus christ! 
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Eh on February 25, 2026, 10:46:14 AM
It is confounding that there’s an implied expectation that there’ll be no accountability for D.

Why, though, did you single out M.Fouc for sexual transgressions? Notably, he was one of the major French intellectuals refusing to sign the ‘77 petition reducing the age of consent.

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_petitions_against_age-of-consent_laws (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_petitions_against_age-of-consent_laws)
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on February 25, 2026, 10:48:35 AM
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Watching a few of these other countries like England and France start holding investigations in regards to the files will only make this country look worse for doing nothing.
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just to chime in about that from a French perspective: the only person really involved in all this for the moment seems to be Jack Lang. and it's just unbelievable that guy is still around and being paid off public money...He's 86! He was minister for Culture when Mitterand, the first French socialist president came to power in 81. I was still in primary school! and I'm old myself  ::)
he was still president of the Arab World Institute in Paris until February, till the Epstein thing.
plus the guy has signed numerous petitions in support of pedophiles, in the glory days of Foucaut and the French intellectuals of 1968 (the "nothing is forbidden" days), he was also famously caught "fooling around" with young moroccon boys in Casablanca, in the 2000's....Good riddance.

Interesting to have Foucault mentioned. I have nothing of importance to add except a girl in one of my classes couldn't figure out how to say his name and called him, "foo-koo" for years. I know how to say his name but every time I read it, in my mind, I think "pho-calt."

Maybe something that isn't completely dumb. I feel like we are living in Foucault's knowledge power cycle in the worst way. Power is defining the stupidist shit as knowledge, which is reinforcing its power and the cycle just keeps going.


It is confounding that there’s an implied expectation that there’ll be no accountability for D.

Why, though, did you single out M.Fouc for sexual transgressions? Notably, he was one of the major French intellectuals refusing to sign the ‘77 petition reducing the age of consent.

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_petitions_against_age-of-consent_laws (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_petitions_against_age-of-consent_laws)

WTF? This is all sorts of crazy. The structure of the wiki entry makes it all the crazier/hard to follow.

It seems like three different things are happening in this entry at once:
1. There was an argument that homosexual men should have the same age of consent as heterosexual people. Ok, it is easy to get on board with this one.
2. There was an argument that age of consent should fucking 13!? because that is when kids also become legally responsible for their actions in France. Was this actually an argument for consent or was this against holding minors responsible for legal actions? (I want to believe it was latter, but I already kind of know it was about the former  :( ).
3. There was defense of someone who engaged in abuse of kids? :(

Man, what the fuck?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Eh on February 25, 2026, 11:31:56 AM
Your reading is correct. The person who started the petition signed by Sartre & de Beauvoir among others, released a book titled “Under 16 Years Old”. Beginning in 2002, he held a lifetime annual stipend from the French National Book Center. It wasn’t until a woman wrote a memoir “Consent” about her interaction being forced that he fell from French haute sociétié in 2020.

 https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/12/world/europe/gabriel-matzneff-pedophilia-charge.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/12/world/europe/gabriel-matzneff-pedophilia-charge.html)
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Jebediah on February 25, 2026, 02:00:54 PM
Embarrassing display by the left showing their anti American ideals yet again

https://youtube.com/shorts/E5mQAawr-KM?si=7iQk77Y-eg0WpW83
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Chalupa on February 25, 2026, 03:31:41 PM
Embarrassing display by the left showing their anti American ideals yet again

https://youtube.com/shorts/E5mQAawr-KM?si=7iQk77Y-eg0WpW83
Violating the constitution, ignoring due process, ignoring court rulings, and killing people, including citizens, with impunity is American?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Eh on February 25, 2026, 03:36:49 PM
He didn’t stand up because protecting US citizens includes paying me to post here and he isn’t happy about it. The government keeps paying me: protecting you, citizen, from even worse posts. He wants my job instead of having to go to speeches.

You didn’t know?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: ToySanta on February 25, 2026, 09:45:40 PM
Embarrassing display by the left showing their anti American ideals yet again

https://youtube.com/shorts/E5mQAawr-KM?si=7iQk77Y-eg0WpW83

Are you serious?? Fuck standing for anyone using the phrase “illegal immigrants.” Fuck standing for a president who wants to revoke Mark Kelly’s military pension because he doesn’t like him. Fuck standing for a party who puts more guns in the streets in the hands of untrained “law” “enforcement” when Kelly’s wife, Gabby Giffords, is an actual survivor of gun violence. Fuck standing for a president whose ICE raids have murdered innocent Americans and arrested hundreds of other citizens. Sanctuary Cities are not inherently more deadly. Fuck thinking that standing and clapping was anything more than to boost his fragile bitch ass ego.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Painted Baby on February 25, 2026, 11:02:08 PM
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Embarrassing display by the left showing their anti American ideals yet again

https://youtube.com/shorts/E5mQAawr-KM?si=7iQk77Y-eg0WpW83
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Are you serious?? Fuck standing for anyone using the phrase “illegal immigrants.” Fuck standing for a president who wants to revoke Mark Kelly’s military pension because he doesn’t like him. Fuck standing for a party who puts more guns in the streets in the hands of untrained “law” “enforcement” when Kelly’s wife, Gabby Giffords, is an actual survivor of gun violence. Fuck standing for a president whose ICE raids have murdered innocent Americans and arrested hundreds of other citizens. Sanctuary Cities are not inherently more deadly. Fuck thinking that standing and clapping was anything more than to boost his fragile bitch ass ego.
Seriously that dude should not be so embattled. This admin has been up his ass since jump. Every time I see a clip from the SOTU I reflexively start flipping the bird to no one. Remaining seated was restraint.

(Why do I keep going in for Mark Kelly? Is it the Gabby Giffords thing?)
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: OldieButFrenchie on February 26, 2026, 01:18:27 AM
It is confounding that there’s an implied expectation that there’ll be no accountability for D.

Why, though, did you single out M.Fouc for sexual transgressions? Notably, he was one of the major French intellectuals refusing to sign the ‘77 petition reducing the age of consent.

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_petitions_against_age-of-consent_laws (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_petitions_against_age-of-consent_laws)

sorry I did not mean to imply Foucault was involved in sexual stuff, I just mentioned him as a symbol of the times, as he represents that view of "everything in society is power and oppression", therefore nothing is forbidden. (Il est interdit d'interdire)
So you are right. I should have mentioned Sartre and Beauvoir instead, who did sign the petition you speak of. Beauvoir also famously "supplied" Sartre with youg attractive female students.... And yes, the whole Matzneff story is nuts. and sordid. As is the Olivier Duhamel incest saga, for those who are interested in the skeletons of the Parisian intellectual elite. Lots of horrendous shit that was covered over in the wake of the 1968 "sexual liberation".

Anyways to get back to Trump: I've seen lots of stuff about him being in advanced stages of dementia. Kinda makes sense I have to say. Could be dead in 3 months, supposedly. Any of you guys heard about that, what do you think?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: AnimalChinaski79 on February 26, 2026, 03:19:47 AM
Embarrassing display by the left showing their anti American ideals yet again

https://youtube.com/shorts/E5mQAawr-KM?si=7iQk77Y-eg0WpW83

Yeah the draft dodging pathological liar pedophile really exemplifies American values.  Get fucked.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: JANUS on February 26, 2026, 04:24:57 AM
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Embarrassing display by the left showing their anti American ideals yet again

https://youtube.com/shorts/E5mQAawr-KM?si=7iQk77Y-eg0WpW83
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Yeah the draft dodging pathological liar pedophile really exemplifies American values.  Get fucked.

Was this not a joke? I read it as a joke.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Emo jimmy on February 26, 2026, 06:56:46 AM
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Embarrassing display by the left showing their anti American ideals yet again

https://youtube.com/shorts/E5mQAawr-KM?si=7iQk77Y-eg0WpW83
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Yeah the draft dodging pathological liar pedophile really exemplifies American values.  Get fucked.
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Was this not a joke? I read it as a joke.
I too read it as facetious
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on February 26, 2026, 10:25:15 AM
LOL. Rep. Lauren Boebert has "inadvertently" paused Hillary's deposition because she sent an UNAUTHORIZED photo from the hearing (outside press and photos aren't allowed) to Benny Johnson. Yes, the same Benny Johnson who (along with Tim Pool) was found in 2024 of being paid $400,000 by a Russian backed media company to spread Russian propaganda.

This administration is truly a clusterfuck of clowns.

https://x.com/bennyjohnson/status/2027067846417690630?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E2027067846417690630%7Ctwgr%5E4ec4b0c3b614c3e43e10d729a36ac223942324a1%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.newsweek.com%2Fhillary-clinton-deposition-photo-epstein-paused-lauren-boebert-11588885
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: brycickle on February 27, 2026, 09:28:28 AM
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Embarrassing display by the left showing their anti American ideals yet again

https://youtube.com/shorts/E5mQAawr-KM?si=7iQk77Y-eg0WpW83
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Are you serious?? Fuck standing for anyone using the phrase “illegal immigrants.” Fuck standing for a president who wants to revoke Mark Kelly’s military pension because he doesn’t like him. Fuck standing for a party who puts more guns in the streets in the hands of untrained “law” “enforcement” when Kelly’s wife, Gabby Giffords, is an actual survivor of gun violence. Fuck standing for a president whose ICE raids have murdered innocent Americans and arrested hundreds of other citizens. Sanctuary Cities are not inherently more deadly. Fuck thinking that standing and clapping was anything more than to boost his fragile bitch ass ego.

I could be wrong, but hasn't it been shown that sanctuary cities generally tend to be statistically safer than non-sanctuary cities?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: hup on February 28, 2026, 01:01:05 AM
“A short time ago, the US military began major combat operations in Iran," he said.

He said Iran was the "world's number one state sponsor of terror, and just recently killed tens of thousands of its own citizens on the street as they protested.”

"The lives of courageous American heroes may be lost, and we may have casualties. That often happens in war, but we're doing this not for now. We're doing this for the future," Mr Trump said.

Trump… urging residents to stay inside as "bombs will be dropping everywhere".

Quotes from www.abc.net.au
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Ty Evans Lightman on February 28, 2026, 03:18:48 AM
So… Fellow American Slap Pals when is enough enough?
Am I right in believing this might be the tipping point for the American people to actually try and stop this guy?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: AnimalChinaski79 on February 28, 2026, 04:14:50 AM
So… Fellow American Slap Pals when is enough enough?
Am I right in believing this might be the tipping point for the American people to actually try and stop this guy?

I doubt it.  I thought that about Jan. 6th, and then when it became obvious he's a child rapist.  I've given up hope anything else would bring this idiot down. 
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Skate34860 on February 28, 2026, 04:35:29 AM
During the next four years there are going to be a lot of changes. It will be next to impossible to track/remember of all of them on our own. I'm creating this thread so we can log what changed and use this as a resource. I imagine most of these changes will be for the worse, but there will be a few things that might change for the better.

And just to log a starting point, as of today, Nov 9th:

Unemployment: 4.1%. (https://www.bls.gov/charts/employment-situation/civilian-unemployment-rate.htm)
Percent of Americans living in poverty: 11.1% (https://www.census.gov/library/publications/2024/demo/p60-283.html)
Dow Jones Industrial Average:43,988 (https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/%5EDJI/)
Avg US Gas Price: $3.09  (https://gasprices.aaa.com/)
Inflation Rate: 2.44%. (https://ycharts.com/indicators/us_inflation_rate)
National Debt: $35,984,888,500  (https://www.usdebtclock.org/)
Number of Incarcerated people in America: 1.9 million  (https://www.prisonpolicy.org/reports/pie2024.html)
Median Household income (2023): $80,610 (https://www.moneygeek.com/career/median-income-by-age/)
Median Home Price: $420,000  (https://www.fool.com/money/research/average-house-price-state/.)
Interest Rate: 4.5% to 4.75%.  (https://www.usbank.com/investing/financial-perspectives/market-news/federal-reserve-interest-rate.html)
TSLA stock: 252 (Nov 4th closing price) (https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/TSLA/)
USD Dollar value in Euros: 93 cents
BTC to USD: Roughly 68,770 (start of Nov 5th) (https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin/)
Measles cases: 277 (https://www.cdc.gov/measles/data-research/index.html)
% of Americans that own a home: 65% (https://www.census.gov/housing/hvs/files/currenthvspress.pdf)
Number of homeless: 653,104 (https://usafacts.org/articles/how-many-homeless-people-are-in-the-us-what-does-the-data-miss/#.)

I'll try to add in a few other basic stats over the next few days. I imagine the next four years will be super weird and we'll need to track all the changes... and separate the bluster from reality (so many Build Back Better accomplishments will be credited to Trump and team. Dems invested heavily in red states).


Just saying it doesn’t matter who’s president. The elites run this WORLD not only the USA. What they want is to divide us so when they decide to make one global government they’ll
Have us so pinned against one another that we’ll all fight for crumbs while they kick back and enjoy the show. If we were smart we would ALL come together and fight back but instead we decide to fight over dumb politics when in all reality it’s all politicians that are being controlled by large corporations to tear us down. Elon Musk says hey AI will take over robots will take over jobs and we will all have a “Universal Income”…. Why the need for the working class or the rest of us once that happens? I for one don’t watch the news or follow politics anymore it’s useless. It’s all just a game to these politicians. We pay so much in taxes and what does it go towards not a damn thing to help any of us! Look up all of the underground bunkers these elites are setting up. What do you think that’s for? If you haven’t read George Orwells 1984 I suggest you do because that’s exactly the direction the world is going in. People need to realize the world’s leaders are just money hungry power hungry people that will do anything to keep that power and as long as we’re all divided they win we will always lose. Trump sucks, republicans suck, democrats suck, all politicians suck I think we can all agree on that.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: GardenSkater77 on February 28, 2026, 05:06:50 AM
Mood…

(https://static.ffx.io/images/$zoom_1%2C$multiply_1%2C$ratio_1.777778%2C$width_500%2C$x_0%2C$y_1/t_crop_custom/c_scale%2Cw_1200%2Cq_88%2Cf_auto/fa45ab70abfda23e76f32b9028099337350b42d3)
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: AnimalChinaski79 on February 28, 2026, 05:39:30 AM
I think we should deploy ICE to go fight in Iran when the time comes.  See how they handle a real warzone instead of soccer moms and VA nurses.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Chalupa on February 28, 2026, 06:41:17 AM
“A short time ago, the US military began major combat operations in Iran," he said.

He said Iran was the "world's number one state sponsor of terror, and just recently killed tens of thousands of its own citizens on the street as they protested.”

"The lives of courageous American heroes may be lost, and we may have casualties. That often happens in war, but we're doing this not for now. We're doing this for the future," Mr Trump said.

Trump… urging residents to stay inside as "bombs will be dropping everywhere".

Quotes from www.abc.net.au
They already killed 40+ children:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/feb/28/iran-vows-no-leniency-reprisal-attacks-israel-us-air-bases

The Epstein regime can’t go more than a couple minutes without harming kids.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on February 28, 2026, 06:41:56 AM
(https://i.postimg.cc/PxKc8TH7/IMG-4919.jpg)

Remember when MAGA ran on their campaign on this fear? Saying Obama would start a war with Iran? How Biden would start a war with Iran?

Then Trump pull from The Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA)aka Iran nuclear deal because it was simply associated with Obama? Crying he can make a better deal, then nothing because they didn’t take Trump seriosuly. Years of non-proliferation with Iran’s nuclear program gone. For what? A narcissist.

Yes. Proud Boys, Oath Keepers, and ICE (yes, same thing) should be the first ones to sign up. But we know that’s not the plan. Than plan is to start a draft, send all other men there, then have ICE police the US in the meantime — a war on two fronts.

Then some sort of EO to bypass the midterm elections and the 2028 elections.

And to top it off, the fucker isn’t even spearheading this from the White House. He’s in Mar-a-Lago! Probably gonna golf today as well.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Emo jimmy on February 28, 2026, 07:28:11 AM
Expand Quote
During the next four years there are going to be a lot of changes. It will be next to impossible to track/remember of all of them on our own. I'm creating this thread so we can log what changed and use this as a resource. I imagine most of these changes will be for the worse, but there will be a few things that might change for the better.

And just to log a starting point, as of today, Nov 9th:

Unemployment: 4.1%. (https://www.bls.gov/charts/employment-situation/civilian-unemployment-rate.htm)
Percent of Americans living in poverty: 11.1% (https://www.census.gov/library/publications/2024/demo/p60-283.html)
Dow Jones Industrial Average:43,988 (https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/%5EDJI/)
Avg US Gas Price: $3.09  (https://gasprices.aaa.com/)
Inflation Rate: 2.44%. (https://ycharts.com/indicators/us_inflation_rate)
National Debt: $35,984,888,500  (https://www.usdebtclock.org/)
Number of Incarcerated people in America: 1.9 million  (https://www.prisonpolicy.org/reports/pie2024.html)
Median Household income (2023): $80,610 (https://www.moneygeek.com/career/median-income-by-age/)
Median Home Price: $420,000  (https://www.fool.com/money/research/average-house-price-state/.)
Interest Rate: 4.5% to 4.75%.  (https://www.usbank.com/investing/financial-perspectives/market-news/federal-reserve-interest-rate.html)
TSLA stock: 252 (Nov 4th closing price) (https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/TSLA/)
USD Dollar value in Euros: 93 cents
BTC to USD: Roughly 68,770 (start of Nov 5th) (https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin/)
Measles cases: 277 (https://www.cdc.gov/measles/data-research/index.html)
% of Americans that own a home: 65% (https://www.census.gov/housing/hvs/files/currenthvspress.pdf)
Number of homeless: 653,104 (https://usafacts.org/articles/how-many-homeless-people-are-in-the-us-what-does-the-data-miss/#.)

I'll try to add in a few other basic stats over the next few days. I imagine the next four years will be super weird and we'll need to track all the changes... and separate the bluster from reality (so many Build Back Better accomplishments will be credited to Trump and team. Dems invested heavily in red states).
[close]


Just saying it doesn’t matter who’s president. The elites run this WORLD not only the USA. What they want is to divide us so when they decide to make one global government they’ll
Have us so pinned against one another that we’ll all fight for crumbs while they kick back and enjoy the show. If we were smart we would ALL come together and fight back but instead we decide to fight over dumb politics when in all reality it’s all politicians that are being controlled by large corporations to tear us down. Elon Musk says hey AI will take over robots will take over jobs and we will all have a “Universal Income”…. Why the need for the working class or the rest of us once that happens? I for one don’t watch the news or follow politics anymore it’s useless. It’s all just a game to these politicians. We pay so much in taxes and what does it go towards not a damn thing to help any of us! Look up all of the underground bunkers these elites are setting up. What do you think that’s for? If you haven’t read George Orwells 1984 I suggest you do because that’s exactly the direction the world is going in. People need to realize the world’s leaders are just money hungry power hungry people that will do anything to keep that power and as long as we’re all divided they win we will always lose. Trump sucks, republicans suck, democrats suck, all politicians suck I think we can all agree on that.
Ok Joe Rogan

One side is rabidly, belligerently evil and racist, the other is at worst complicit and toothless to stop them due to having the same financiers and donors. There is no "coming together to stop fighting for crumbs" when one side doesnt think certain groups of people even deserve to exist.

In matters both domestically and abroad it absolutely matters who the fuck the president is and you typed a whole shitload of absolutely nothing.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Rusty Shackleford on February 28, 2026, 07:28:30 AM
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSWgo-sVddYO7cAp45P1mJvRpsmh1ba9gPuoQ&usqp=CAU)
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on February 28, 2026, 07:51:15 AM
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSWgo-sVddYO7cAp45P1mJvRpsmh1ba9gPuoQ&usqp=CAU)

Again, every accusation is a confession.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: AnimalChinaski79 on February 28, 2026, 07:53:20 AM
Expand Quote
During the next four years there are going to be a lot of changes. It will be next to impossible to track/remember of all of them on our own. I'm creating this thread so we can log what changed and use this as a resource. I imagine most of these changes will be for the worse, but there will be a few things that might change for the better.

And just to log a starting point, as of today, Nov 9th:

Unemployment: 4.1%. (https://www.bls.gov/charts/employment-situation/civilian-unemployment-rate.htm)
Percent of Americans living in poverty: 11.1% (https://www.census.gov/library/publications/2024/demo/p60-283.html)
Dow Jones Industrial Average:43,988 (https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/%5EDJI/)
Avg US Gas Price: $3.09  (https://gasprices.aaa.com/)
Inflation Rate: 2.44%. (https://ycharts.com/indicators/us_inflation_rate)
National Debt: $35,984,888,500  (https://www.usdebtclock.org/)
Number of Incarcerated people in America: 1.9 million  (https://www.prisonpolicy.org/reports/pie2024.html)
Median Household income (2023): $80,610 (https://www.moneygeek.com/career/median-income-by-age/)
Median Home Price: $420,000  (https://www.fool.com/money/research/average-house-price-state/.)
Interest Rate: 4.5% to 4.75%.  (https://www.usbank.com/investing/financial-perspectives/market-news/federal-reserve-interest-rate.html)
TSLA stock: 252 (Nov 4th closing price) (https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/TSLA/)
USD Dollar value in Euros: 93 cents
BTC to USD: Roughly 68,770 (start of Nov 5th) (https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin/)
Measles cases: 277 (https://www.cdc.gov/measles/data-research/index.html)
% of Americans that own a home: 65% (https://www.census.gov/housing/hvs/files/currenthvspress.pdf)
Number of homeless: 653,104 (https://usafacts.org/articles/how-many-homeless-people-are-in-the-us-what-does-the-data-miss/#.)

I'll try to add in a few other basic stats over the next few days. I imagine the next four years will be super weird and we'll need to track all the changes... and separate the bluster from reality (so many Build Back Better accomplishments will be credited to Trump and team. Dems invested heavily in red states).
[close]


Just saying it doesn’t matter who’s president. The elites run this WORLD not only the USA. What they want is to divide us so when they decide to make one global government they’ll
Have us so pinned against one another that we’ll all fight for crumbs while they kick back and enjoy the show. If we were smart we would ALL come together and fight back but instead we decide to fight over dumb politics when in all reality it’s all politicians that are being controlled by large corporations to tear us down. Elon Musk says hey AI will take over robots will take over jobs and we will all have a “Universal Income”…. Why the need for the working class or the rest of us once that happens? I for one don’t watch the news or follow politics anymore it’s useless. It’s all just a game to these politicians. We pay so much in taxes and what does it go towards not a damn thing to help any of us! Look up all of the underground bunkers these elites are setting up. What do you think that’s for? If you haven’t read George Orwells 1984 I suggest you do because that’s exactly the direction the world is going in. People need to realize the world’s leaders are just money hungry power hungry people that will do anything to keep that power and as long as we’re all divided they win we will always lose. Trump sucks, republicans suck, democrats suck, all politicians suck I think we can all agree on that.

I'd argue who is President actually does matter.   Alex Pretti and Renee Good would probably not of been shot by masked gestapo in cold blood if we didn't have the current President.  Cancer research would not of been cut by 35 percent, the Dept of Ed wouldn't be dismantled, we wouldn't be paying tariffs, and we wouldn't be bombing Iran.  That's off the top of my head I'm sure there's more I'm forgetting.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Unkle Fleak on February 28, 2026, 07:59:29 AM
It’s war. All for greater Israel and a stupid book from 2k years ago.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: brycickle on February 28, 2026, 08:00:57 AM
I think we should deploy ICE to go fight in Iran when the time comes.  See how they handle a real warzone instead of soccer moms and VA nurses.

(https://i.makeagif.com/media/10-28-2020/Bc9fS5.gif)

I imagine this is what it would look like.

Also, this is not the news I wanted to wake up to, as we prepare to go to a birthday party for our Iranian friend whose family is all still over there.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on February 28, 2026, 08:03:14 AM
Regime change makes no sense.  As one commentator put it: there may be a Mandela, but there’s no ANC.   
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on February 28, 2026, 08:29:23 AM
After almost job no job growth in 2025, Trump decided to enact a military draft, giving millions of young men jobs — that will kill them.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: RichardBarkley on February 28, 2026, 11:37:52 AM
Horrible news

Israel the scummiest country on the planet being blindly aided by the US government who lets be honest aren't much better.

It's being reported that Iran had agreed, as recently as yesterday, to halt all uranium enrichment for three years and remove its existing stockpile from the country. So what's the fucking point.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on February 28, 2026, 11:57:41 AM
Horrible news

Israel the scummiest country on the planet being blindly aided by the US government who lets be honest aren't much better.

It's being reported that Iran had agreed, as recently as yesterday, to halt all uranium enrichment for three years and remove its existing stockpile from the country. So what's the fucking point.

War so Trump can try to take control of the 2026 midterms while also deflecting from Epstein files.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Chalupa on February 28, 2026, 01:07:31 PM
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Horrible news

Israel the scummiest country on the planet being blindly aided by the US government who lets be honest aren't much better.

It's being reported that Iran had agreed, as recently as yesterday, to halt all uranium enrichment for three years and remove its existing stockpile from the country. So what's the fucking point.
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War so Trump can try to take control of the 2026 midterms while also deflecting from Epstein files.
Also, they want regime change to install a Zionist-friendly puppet to satisfy billionaires’ lust for even more oil money.

USA-Israel is the fourth reich.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on March 01, 2026, 03:13:07 AM
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Horrible news

Israel the scummiest country on the planet being blindly aided by the US government who lets be honest aren't much better.

It's being reported that Iran had agreed, as recently as yesterday, to halt all uranium enrichment for three years and remove its existing stockpile from the country. So what's the fucking point.
[close]

War so Trump can try to take control of the 2026 midterms while also deflecting from Epstein files.
[close]
Also, they want regime change to install a Zionist-friendly puppet to satisfy billionaires’ lust for even more oil money.

USA-Israel is the fourth reich.

Let’s not forget Saudi Arabia lobbied us pretty hard to attack Iran as well
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on March 01, 2026, 09:44:32 PM
I don't know what to think about all this.

Iran was in a weakened position after the war with Israel. Their regional superpower image was harder to believe after Israel humiliated them. Moreover, Iran is religious totalitarian country that kills is moderate and liberal citizens, this isn't something I can support in any fashion. And, the smallest personal point, a few women that I still have crushes on are from Iran and obviously hate the regime for good reason.

However, what if any effect will this have in the long run? I have no idea. It seems sort of like opportunistic attack a country that had political strife, a lack of water, and economic trouble but without a real plan of what happens next. I'm not sure what the plan is politically or for the people or to help manage the water/economic crisis the country is already facing. It seems like the US is taking an opportunity to attack a country that has been an adversary for decades.

I don't know. I don't know what to expect from Iran's neighbors. Russia isn't going to give a shit and neither is China. Azerbaijan isn't going to care. Saudi Arabia is stoked. Iran is kind of fucked, but how does this turn out well? Not sure.

I will say, I'm sick of being lied to for the reason we are going to war.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Emo jimmy on March 01, 2026, 11:46:23 PM
They didnt even bother to lie

they just blatantly dont give a fuck what the public thinks at this point, they got their detainment camps and AI surveillance and weapons tech ready to be mobilized domestically

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Chalupa on March 02, 2026, 06:42:42 AM
Russia isn't going to give a shit and neither is China.
That’s what the mainstream media is saying, but news from the Middle East and India is saying that China has sent cargo planes to Iran. There is speculation and discrepancies over what was sent: missiles, drones, electronic systems for jamming purposes.

You have to realize that the major news networks are propaganda of Mossad and USA to increase support for their wars. People were and still are always told that the US is “winning” even in situations like Vietnam. “Journalists” are saying that Iran shouldn’t attack, even though they were attacked first.

Iran should just let America kill Iranian citizens, who they claim they want to protect? One of the first attacks killed over 100 people in a school, mainly little girls. When Zionists aren’t fucking kids, they’re killing them.

I don’t support Iran’s treatment of its citizens, but I also don’t believe USA/Israel has the right to attack other countries to replace leaders with puppets and steal their resources.

Iranian government killing its citizens bad. USA/Israel killing Iranian citizens good.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on March 02, 2026, 06:56:25 AM
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Russia isn't going to give a shit and neither is China.
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I don’t support Iran’s treatment of its citizens, but I also don’t believe USA/Israel has the right to attack other countries to replace leaders with puppets and steal their resources.

This. People forget that two things can exist together — like this.

Fox News and other right-wingers are (again) crying that if you’re against the war, you’re for Iran. Like how they said you were for the terrorists in 2004.

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Big Skatefase on March 02, 2026, 07:59:42 AM
The news trying to act like they give a shit about Iranian citizens, and how this is for democracy and liberating Iranian women is hilarious seeing how the United States is allied with Saudi Arabia and just handed over Afghanistan to the Taliban 5 years ago.

Just be honest and say its for oil and strategic military positioning and stop treating us like children.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Ty Evans Lightman on March 02, 2026, 10:45:38 AM
China and Russia sending support is a way of hitting back at the West through a third party but I also read it as this being a possible start of World War.

America has really kicked a nest. Other neighbouring Middle East States are going to start squabbling and that could lead to further spread of conflict.

Israel’s government are high as kites on violence so it wouldnt surprise me if they actually nuked someone.

Finally, way to go to inspire a whole new generation of terrorists with anti Western sentiments.

I feel bad for every day Americans and at thr same time I am so angry at you lot for voting for Trump twice.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on March 02, 2026, 10:55:23 AM
China and Russia sending support is a way of hitting back at the West through a third party but I also read it as this being a possible start of World War.

America has really kicked a nest. Other neighbouring Middle East States are going to start squabbling and that could lead to further spread of conflict.

Israel’s government are high as kites on violence so it wouldnt surprise me if they actually nuked someone.

Finally, way to go to inspire a whole new generation of terrorists with anti Western sentiments.

I feel bad for every day Americans and at thr same time I am so angry at you lot for voting for Trump twice.

Remember, many dumb fuck Americans voted for him three times, swearing the second time he won and it was stolen from him.

Anyways, the US isn't in a good spot. You're right, we poked the anger of a nest that didn't need poking. Then adding that Trump ostracized us from the UN and NATO, should Iran and it's allies hit back, we're ALONE ON THIS. No other nation is going to come to our aid. At least they won't with Trump and his admin at the helm.

We're are ROYALLY fucked.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: AnimalChinaski79 on March 02, 2026, 03:19:20 PM
America taken down by a con artist piece of shit child molester.  What could be more American?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on March 02, 2026, 05:07:54 PM
America taken down by a con artist piece of shit child molester RAPIST.  What could be more American?

Fixed it for ya

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: pugmaster on March 02, 2026, 07:54:17 PM
tRump cares about the American public. For example, he would never give Olympic athetes a meal substandard in quality just to save a few bucks. He would certainly treat those Olympic gold medalists to a fine-dining experience.

Oopsie daisy

https://sports.yahoo.com/articles/donald-trump-serves-mcdonald-usa-105538836.html (https://sports.yahoo.com/articles/donald-trump-serves-mcdonald-usa-105538836.html)


Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on March 02, 2026, 08:32:24 PM
To be fair, that is the guy who likes his steaks cooked to the same leathery texture as RFKs face and then slathered in the finest of ketchup. So that IS fine cuisine to him.

So have Jr, Erik, and Barren volunteered to join our armed forces and refused any rank beyond NCO so they can be boots on the ground in this totally justified war that every single American wanted?*





















*this is sarcasm. I do not condone the actions of this ‘government’ in any way.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Rusty Shackleford on March 03, 2026, 10:33:20 AM
Strait of Hormuz  is closed for who knows how long...something like one fifth of the world's energy passes through that narrow channel. Oil prices will probably skyrocket, but hey at least the drapes in Donald's new ballroom will be unlike anything we've ever seen!
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on March 03, 2026, 10:42:19 AM
Strait of Hormuz  is closed for who knows how long...something like one fifth of the world's energy passes through that narrow channel. Oil prices will probably skyrocket, but hey at least the drapes in Donald's new ballroom will be unlike anything we've ever seen!

I'm curious how Trump and his admin will blame this on Biden and/or Hillary's emails?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: brycickle on March 03, 2026, 10:53:58 AM
Strait of Hormuz  is closed for who knows how long...something like one fifth of the world's energy passes through that narrow channel. Oil prices will probably skyrocket, but hey at least the drapes in Donald's new ballroom will be unlike anything we've ever seen!

So now I can start putting stickers up at the gas pump with Trump saying "I did that"?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on March 03, 2026, 11:21:09 AM
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Strait of Hormuz  is closed for who knows how long...something like one fifth of the world's energy passes through that narrow channel. Oil prices will probably skyrocket, but hey at least the drapes in Donald's new ballroom will be unlike anything we've ever seen!
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So now I can start putting stickers up at the gas pump with Trump saying "I did that"?

Yes. I did it when eggs were topping off at $8/carton.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Nom De Plume on March 03, 2026, 01:48:14 PM
Today I watched the blood moon from a bridge, behind me was the beginning of a gorgeous sunrise on the Atlantic ocean. It made me feel small in a good way, as the sea and sky tend to do. I listened to Unchained Melody and Fools Rush In on repeat for some reason. It was really peaceful and I was feeling grateful for the things i have.

Then I thought of the people living in Iran, Lebanon, and Gaza right now. Families who have already lost their homes and loved ones, whose safety and future is uncertain. I thought of what history might call a modern Axis alliance lead by the country I live in and Israel, and likely comprised of this "board of peace". Of how the US has lost the good will of longstanding allies and the seeds are sown for the next crop of anti-western extremists in the middle east. How the US is likely generationally fucked at home and abroad. That this will not be like Iraq or Afghanistan; it could easily become a proxy war orchestrated by the largest world powers and so many innocent people will die. I barely pushed back the tears and I lost it typing this. Fuck.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: AnimalChinaski79 on March 03, 2026, 02:04:59 PM
Strait of Hormuz  is closed for who knows how long...something like one fifth of the world's energy passes through that narrow channel. Oil prices will probably skyrocket, but hey at least the drapes in Donald's new ballroom will be unlike anything we've ever seen!

He's now promising the Navy will escort ships through the straight now.  Sounds like an insane plan to me.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on March 03, 2026, 02:32:31 PM
Six soldiers have died so far, his response is a passive "It's war -- it happens" kind of attitude. And on top of that, he attacked Iran WITHOUT an evacuation plan for Americans in the Middle East.

Republicans are just there. Were soldiers were killed when Biden was carrying out Trump's Afghanistan withdrawal, GOP were screaming from the roof that he was a war monger, a killer, he was inept, etc.

Now that Trump is carelessly and brazenly attacking another country where he's abandoning Americans, they're attitude is suddenly as passive as his.

Fucking disgusting
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: dunc on March 03, 2026, 05:22:50 PM
"Operation Epic Fury!" What the fuck? Does he think is playing in the sand pit with his 4 year old peers?
Lay off the sugar and WWF America.  You have lost touch with reality. 
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on March 03, 2026, 05:24:37 PM
"Operation Epic Fury!" What the fuck? Does he think is playing in the sand pit with his 4 year old peers?
Lay off the sugar and WWF America.  You have lost touch with reality.


Our president is literally a WWE Hall of Famer
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Chalupa on March 03, 2026, 06:08:41 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ft-M5b482w
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on March 03, 2026, 06:26:04 PM
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"Operation Epic Fury!" What the fuck? Does he think is playing in the sand pit with his 4 year old peers?
Lay off the sugar and WWF America.  You have lost touch with reality.
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Our president is literally a WWE Hall of Famer CHILD RAPIST

Fixed it for you.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on March 03, 2026, 06:27:28 PM
Fucking Hegseth and other Republicans are saying Trump was anointed by God to bring upon Armageddon in the Middle East so that Jesus can return.

WHAT THE EVER LOVING FUCK!?! Why are religious idiots running this show?!

https://www.newsweek.com/us-commander-said-trump-anointed-by-jesus-to-attack-iran-report-11615046
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: dunc on March 03, 2026, 11:06:29 PM
Fucking Hegseth and other Republicans are saying Trump was anointed by God to bring upon Armageddon in the Middle East so that Jesus can return.

WHAT THE EVER LOVING FUCK!?! Why are religious idiots running this show?!

https://www.newsweek.com/us-commander-said-trump-anointed-by-jesus-to-attack-iran-report-11615046
Well they got that wrong. He was sent here by god to redecorate the Whitehouse with gold crayons.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on March 04, 2026, 08:19:09 AM
Texas dem turnout very encouraging


http://youtu.be/DBU9voHO8Kk
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on March 04, 2026, 08:52:53 AM
Texas dem turnout very encouraging
http://youtu.be/DBU9voHO8Kk

I hope people who are upset with Crockett’s loss in the primaries don’t do that shit where they sit out tye election because their candidate didn’t win.

Then again, I never have high hopes for Texas when it comes to voting.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on March 04, 2026, 09:08:09 AM
ANNOUNCED — US forces have launched military operations within Ecuador against "designated terrorist organizations."

https://www.politico.com/news/2026/03/03/us-military-operations-ecuador-00811272

Multi-continent military actions? Trump really doesn't want what's in the Epstein Files to be released.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on March 04, 2026, 09:45:23 AM
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Texas dem turnout very encouraging
http://youtu.be/DBU9voHO8Kk
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I hope people who are upset with Crockett’s loss in the primaries don’t do that shit where they sit out tye election because their candidate didn’t win.

Then again, I never have high hopes for Texas when it comes to voting.



I hope not either.   She immediately endorsed him, so I don’t think there’s any enmity between them.  I haven’t done a deep dive on him, but he seems like what people want Buttegieg to actually be without the stink of corporate donors (or so people say about Pete), so I think he potentially has a strong future.   Crockett was dead right that the Colbert shenanigans only helped him out bc he was an unknown to my parents until all that happened.   
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on March 04, 2026, 10:08:06 AM
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Texas dem turnout very encouraging
http://youtu.be/DBU9voHO8Kk
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I hope people who are upset with Crockett’s loss in the primaries don’t do that shit where they sit out tye election because their candidate didn’t win.

Then again, I never have high hopes for Texas when it comes to voting.
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I hope not either.   She immediately endorsed him, so I don’t think there’s any enmity between them.  I haven’t done a deep dive on him, but he seems like what people want Buttegieg to actually be without the stink of corporate donors (or so people say about Pete), so I think he potentially has a strong future.   Crockett was dead right that the Colbert shenanigans only helped him out bc he was an unknown to my parents until all that happened.

I saw that she endorsed him. But I hope she stands by him on the stage and rallies her fans to help come together to get him in office.

Many Crockett supporters are upset because he's a white Christian male. While yes, it make him the ideal candidate for Texas because him being a White Christian male will help make it easier for people who are Trumpers, but who are ashamed of what he and and his administration are doing, to vote against their party without "straying" too far from their "values."

Talarico is just living proof that, for many, whiteness (Christian whiteness especially) carries more weight than being colored with credentials — not saying that he's not qualified.

Her fans are upset because she was always painted as some black ghetto chick with an attitude despite her education, intelligence, wittiness, and/or impressive resume as a public defender. Or, like you mentioned, people say he's the perfect version of Buttegig. And it's not because he's more intelligent or well spoken, it's because he's a STRAIGHT white Christian male.

It's why Trump wanted Crockett to win—it's easy for him to discredit her as a black woman using misogynistic and racist slander alone.

And before people bring up Beto and how he was a white guy in Texas. During his last run for Senate, he was polling well until he talked about gun control (not ban) as a response to the Uvalde shooting, which Texas Republicans quickly flipped as "HE'S GOING TO TAKE YOUR GUNS!!!" That ended up being the thing that made on-the-fence voters go right back to Ted "cooks-bacon-with-a-gun Cruz.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Billy Bitchcakes on March 04, 2026, 11:30:11 AM
It really seems like you are not going to have any semblance of fair elections this year. I heard someone make the point (Mehdi Hassan in this interview (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnIulQYIQss?t=00) worth watching) that Trump is completely tanked in the opinions polls on every single topic, and usually when presidents are polling badly there will be changes to try and gain more popularity. But these guys just, don't give a shit? Continue to poll worse, double down on everything the voters are against, and seem completely unbothered by it. Almost like they're not worried about losing power in 8 months.
I'm no expert but I can't imagine a government going this far into implementing their clearly laid out, multi year long plan to capture the nation under their authoritarian regime just to throw all the hard work they've done away because a few midterm elections go the wrong way
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on March 04, 2026, 12:39:19 PM
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Texas dem turnout very encouraging
http://youtu.be/DBU9voHO8Kk
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I hope people who are upset with Crockett’s loss in the primaries don’t do that shit where they sit out tye election because their candidate didn’t win.

Then again, I never have high hopes for Texas when it comes to voting.
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I hope not either.   She immediately endorsed him, so I don’t think there’s any enmity between them.  I haven’t done a deep dive on him, but he seems like what people want Buttegieg to actually be without the stink of corporate donors (or so people say about Pete), so I think he potentially has a strong future.   Crockett was dead right that the Colbert shenanigans only helped him out bc he was an unknown to my parents until all that happened.
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I saw that she endorsed him. But I hope she stands by him on the stage and rallies her fans to help come together to get him in office.

Many Crockett supporters are upset because he's a white Christian male. While yes, it make him the ideal candidate for Texas because him being a White Christian male will help make it easier for people who are Trumpers, but who are ashamed of what he and and his administration are doing, to vote against their party without "straying" too far from their "values."

Talarico is just living proof that, for many, whiteness (Christian whiteness especially) carries more weight than being colored with credentials — not saying that he's not qualified.

Her fans are upset because she was always painted as some black ghetto chick with an attitude despite her education, intelligence, wittiness, and/or impressive resume as a public defender. Or, like you mentioned, people say he's the perfect version of Buttegig. And it's not because he's more intelligent or well spoken, it's because he's a STRAIGHT white Christian male.

It's why Trump wanted Crockett to win—it's easy for him to discredit her as a black woman using misogynistic and racist slander alone.

And before people bring up Beto and how he was a white guy in Texas. During his last run for Senate, he was polling well until he talked about gun control (not ban) as a response to the Uvalde shooting, which Texas Republicans quickly flipped as "HE'S GOING TO TAKE YOUR GUNS!!!" That ended up being the thing that made on-the-fence voters go right back to Ted "cooks-bacon-with-a-gun Cruz.



Who knows if it’s just an algorithm thing, but I never saw Crockett on my feed speaking about what she was running for and tons of Talarico.   I got a lot of videos of her killing it in Congress but nothing specifically campaign related.   Maybe it’s also an issue of she has a day job to do whilst running, but my attitude always was she’s got an effective seat where she is and he’ll be a nice addition - but of course I understand the racial component bc that’s why the FCC spiked his interview: he’s exactly what they’re afraid of in a place like Texas.  Maybe Jasmine Crockett can dethrone Rafael Cruz when the time comes.       
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on March 04, 2026, 01:33:33 PM
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Texas dem turnout very encouraging
http://youtu.be/DBU9voHO8Kk
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I hope people who are upset with Crockett’s loss in the primaries don’t do that shit where they sit out tye election because their candidate didn’t win.

Then again, I never have high hopes for Texas when it comes to voting.
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I hope not either.   She immediately endorsed him, so I don’t think there’s any enmity between them.  I haven’t done a deep dive on him, but he seems like what people want Buttegieg to actually be without the stink of corporate donors (or so people say about Pete), so I think he potentially has a strong future.   Crockett was dead right that the Colbert shenanigans only helped him out bc he was an unknown to my parents until all that happened.
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I saw that she endorsed him. But I hope she stands by him on the stage and rallies her fans to help come together to get him in office.

Many Crockett supporters are upset because he's a white Christian male. While yes, it make him the ideal candidate for Texas because him being a White Christian male will help make it easier for people who are Trumpers, but who are ashamed of what he and and his administration are doing, to vote against their party without "straying" too far from their "values."

Talarico is just living proof that, for many, whiteness (Christian whiteness especially) carries more weight than being colored with credentials — not saying that he's not qualified.

Her fans are upset because she was always painted as some black ghetto chick with an attitude despite her education, intelligence, wittiness, and/or impressive resume as a public defender. Or, like you mentioned, people say he's the perfect version of Buttegig. And it's not because he's more intelligent or well spoken, it's because he's a STRAIGHT white Christian male.

It's why Trump wanted Crockett to win—it's easy for him to discredit her as a black woman using misogynistic and racist slander alone.

And before people bring up Beto and how he was a white guy in Texas. During his last run for Senate, he was polling well until he talked about gun control (not ban) as a response to the Uvalde shooting, which Texas Republicans quickly flipped as "HE'S GOING TO TAKE YOUR GUNS!!!" That ended up being the thing that made on-the-fence voters go right back to Ted "cooks-bacon-with-a-gun Cruz.
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Who knows if it’s just an algorithm thing, but I never saw Crockett on my feed speaking about what she was running for and tons of Talarico.   I got a lot of videos of her killing it in Congress but nothing specifically campaign related.   Maybe it’s also an issue of she has a day job to do whilst running, but my attitude always was she’s got an effective seat where she is and he’ll be a nice addition - but of course I understand the racial component bc that’s why the FCC spiked his interview: he’s exactly what they’re afraid of in a place like Texas.  Maybe Jasmine Crockett can dethrone Rafael Cruz when the time comes.     

This. Very much this. People (and the algorithim) kept pinning Talarico against Crockett. And in my opinion, Texas couldn't go wrong with either one. Now I hope they work together for her to kick Cruz out and have Dems take both Senate seats.

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on March 04, 2026, 01:38:56 PM
Pete Hegseth is complaining that the "liberal media" is trying to report too much on the soldiers killed in Iran because it's a vicious attack to make Trump look bad.

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2026/03/hegseth-complains-that-reporting-on-dead-troops-is-bad-pr-for-trump/

This is a dude whose old job (Fox) spent years talking about those killed in Benghazi and whose political party went through numerous investigations and hearings, one where Hillary testified for 11 hours in front of a House Select Committee, then reinvestigated when the House Select Committee's report said there was no wrong doing.

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on March 04, 2026, 02:08:27 PM
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http://youtu.be/DBU9voHO8Kk
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I hope people who are upset with Crockett’s loss in the primaries don’t do that shit where they sit out tye election because their candidate didn’t win.

Then again, I never have high hopes for Texas when it comes to voting.
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I hope not either.   She immediately endorsed him, so I don’t think there’s any enmity between them.  I haven’t done a deep dive on him, but he seems like what people want Buttegieg to actually be without the stink of corporate donors (or so people say about Pete), so I think he potentially has a strong future.   Crockett was dead right that the Colbert shenanigans only helped him out bc he was an unknown to my parents until all that happened.
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I saw that she endorsed him. But I hope she stands by him on the stage and rallies her fans to help come together to get him in office.

Many Crockett supporters are upset because he's a white Christian male. While yes, it make him the ideal candidate for Texas because him being a White Christian male will help make it easier for people who are Trumpers, but who are ashamed of what he and and his administration are doing, to vote against their party without "straying" too far from their "values."

Talarico is just living proof that, for many, whiteness (Christian whiteness especially) carries more weight than being colored with credentials — not saying that he's not qualified.

Her fans are upset because she was always painted as some black ghetto chick with an attitude despite her education, intelligence, wittiness, and/or impressive resume as a public defender. Or, like you mentioned, people say he's the perfect version of Buttegig. And it's not because he's more intelligent or well spoken, it's because he's a STRAIGHT white Christian male.

It's why Trump wanted Crockett to win—it's easy for him to discredit her as a black woman using misogynistic and racist slander alone.

And before people bring up Beto and how he was a white guy in Texas. During his last run for Senate, he was polling well until he talked about gun control (not ban) as a response to the Uvalde shooting, which Texas Republicans quickly flipped as "HE'S GOING TO TAKE YOUR GUNS!!!" That ended up being the thing that made on-the-fence voters go right back to Ted "cooks-bacon-with-a-gun Cruz.
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Who knows if it’s just an algorithm thing, but I never saw Crockett on my feed speaking about what she was running for and tons of Talarico.   I got a lot of videos of her killing it in Congress but nothing specifically campaign related.   Maybe it’s also an issue of she has a day job to do whilst running, but my attitude always was she’s got an effective seat where she is and he’ll be a nice addition - but of course I understand the racial component bc that’s why the FCC spiked his interview: he’s exactly what they’re afraid of in a place like Texas.  Maybe Jasmine Crockett can dethrone Rafael Cruz when the time comes.     
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This. Very much this. People (and the algorithim) kept pinning Talarico against Crockett. And in my opinion, Texas couldn't go wrong with either one. Now I hope they work together for her to kick Cruz out and have Dems take both Senate seats.


I was watching a report that said voters liked both candidates but it was pretty much down to who they thought was more “electable” - which as you mentioned can have pretty gross connotations but I’m choosing to see it as more pragmatism in THIS case.   Talarico doing better with Latinos was the ultimate edge that put him over
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Painted Baby on March 04, 2026, 04:57:10 PM
It really seems like you are not going to have any semblance of fair elections this year. I heard someone make the point (Mehdi Hassan in this interview (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnIulQYIQss?t=00) worth watching) that Trump is completely tanked in the opinions polls on every single topic, and usually when presidents are polling badly there will be changes to try and gain more popularity. But these guys just, don't give a shit? Continue to poll worse, double down on everything the voters are against, and seem completely unbothered by it. Almost like they're not worried about losing power in 8 months.
I'm no expert but I can't imagine a government going this far into implementing their clearly laid out, multi year long plan to capture the nation under their authoritarian regime just to throw all the hard work they've done away because a few midterm elections go the wrong way
The saving grace here is that state control of elections is written in to our constitution. They've already tipped their hand at what they are trying to do so this is already being fought in the courts. The admin will lose there like they have over and over for the past year or so. I think they are at the throw enough shit at the wall phase and so every dipshit notion they have gets reported on. Anything can happen in a fascist takeover but I think Trump is flapping his gums and surrounded by low IQ sycophants who've are in too deep to be able to hop off the train.

I hated the Talarico/Crockett match up just because it felt like moving deck chairs around on the Titanic but I will say she has taken an awful lot of donations from AIPAC over the past few years. She'd probably be a dope Texas AG but the worst parts of Texas would have to be really pissed to vote her in.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on March 04, 2026, 05:16:36 PM
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It really seems like you are not going to have any semblance of fair elections this year. I heard someone make the point (Mehdi Hassan in this interview (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnIulQYIQss?t=00) worth watching) that Trump is completely tanked in the opinions polls on every single topic, and usually when presidents are polling badly there will be changes to try and gain more popularity. But these guys just, don't give a shit? Continue to poll worse, double down on everything the voters are against, and seem completely unbothered by it. Almost like they're not worried about losing power in 8 months.
I'm no expert but I can't imagine a government going this far into implementing their clearly laid out, multi year long plan to capture the nation under their authoritarian regime just to throw all the hard work they've done away because a few midterm elections go the wrong way
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The saving grace here is that state control of elections is written in to our constitution. They've already tipped their hand at what they are trying to do so this is already being fought in the courts. The admin will lose there like they have over and over for the past year or so. I think they are at the throw enough shit at the wall phase and so every dipshit notion they have gets reported on. Anything can happen in a fascist takeover but I think Trump is flapping his gums and surrounded by low IQ sycophants who've are in too deep to be able to hop off the train.

I hated the Talarico/Crockett match up just because it felt like moving deck chairs around on the Titanic but I will say she has taken an awful lot of donations from AIPAC over the past few years. She'd probably be a dope Texas AG but the worst parts of Texas would have to be really pissed to vote her in.

With Republicans in the Senate just killing the War Powers Vote to force Trump to end the Iran attacks, you can just tell they want the war to go on so Trump can use his claim that war allows him to postpone any kind of election.

They're going to do everything in their power to stop the midterm elections and I think they're going to pull it off. Their subservience allows Trump to do whatever the hell he wants.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: roba on March 05, 2026, 02:01:48 AM
https://www.reddit.com/r/UnderReportedNews/comments/1rl08uo/marine_sgt_brian_mcguinness_stood_up_in_congress/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=post_embed&utm_term=1&utm_content=1

bleak
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Chalupa on March 05, 2026, 06:14:41 AM
https://www.reddit.com/r/UnderReportedNews/comments/1rl08uo/marine_sgt_brian_mcguinness_stood_up_in_congress/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=post_embed&utm_term=1&utm_content=1

bleak
I agree with the sentiment but it’s not true. At least 25% of America is willing to sacrifice people for Israel.

People in the military in every branch were told by leadership that the Iran war is for armageddon so Jesus will come back. Every time I think Americans can’t get be any more stupid, I get proven wrong.

Also, the House voted 357-65 to block release of congressional sexual misconduct reports. United States of Assholes.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on March 05, 2026, 11:02:39 AM
I do not understand why the people on Wall Street get paid. The market was up yesterday and today they just realize that oil is going to go up in price?

(https://i.ibb.co/1tRhtLnX/Screenshot-2026-03-05-at-11-35-53-AM.png)
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on March 05, 2026, 11:03:08 AM
Noem out, Mullin in

(A bit surprising bc he got a lot of coverage for looking like an idiot yesterday with “war/not war” talk
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on March 05, 2026, 11:16:16 AM
Noem out, Mullin in

(A bit surprising bc he got a lot of coverage for looking like an idiot yesterday with “war/not war” talk

Replacing a dog turd with a horse turd.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on March 05, 2026, 12:01:14 PM
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Noem out, Mullin in

(A bit surprising bc he got a lot of coverage for looking like an idiot yesterday with “war/not war” talk
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Replacing a dog turd with a horse turd.

She’s seems worse just on the scale of wasting tax payer’s money.   I assume Markwayne travels around in the back of a truck like John Candy in Home Alone
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on March 05, 2026, 12:06:45 PM
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Noem out, Mullin in

(A bit surprising bc he got a lot of coverage for looking like an idiot yesterday with “war/not war” talk
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Replacing a dog turd with a horse turd.
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She’s seems worse just on the scale of wasting tax payer’s money.   I assume Markwayne travels around in the back of a truck like John Candy in Home Alone

LOL. But Mullin’s will probably try to keep a lower profile when it comes to stealing money (like how Noem got caught with a 9-figure deal with a company that only existed for 8-days) and using planes to bang people.

Regardless, anyone from the Trump regime in that role will just be a pupper for Stephen Miller’s cruel tactics.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Painted Baby on March 05, 2026, 04:50:55 PM
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Noem out, Mullin in

(A bit surprising bc he got a lot of coverage for looking like an idiot yesterday with “war/not war” talk
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Replacing a dog turd with a horse turd.
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She’s seems worse just on the scale of wasting tax payer’s money.   I assume Markwayne travels around in the back of a truck like John Candy in Home Alone
Markwayne is a fake ass cowboy cosplayer who inherited his wealth from his pops and is an anti-union bossman type. Teamsters pres Sean O'Brien dogwalked him during a couple of Congressional hearings.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ffd_gdGGJ0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oymnSeg3vG0
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: matty_c on March 06, 2026, 01:48:36 AM
Call me crazy but I reckon Israel government has mad dirt on trump, they prolly said send 2 carrier battle groups or we release your pedo pictures so he did the thing
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: GardenSkater77 on March 06, 2026, 07:43:00 AM
I had a dream that Trump was naming military missions after Grimple Stix graphics. When I woke up and thought about it I realized that it had already happened…

(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/kvUAAOSw2NNj3xNh/s-l1200.jpg)

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Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Emo jimmy on March 06, 2026, 07:59:05 AM
Fuck bro, Let me out of this shitty non phixion song
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Rusty Shackleford on March 06, 2026, 08:51:09 AM
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Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on March 06, 2026, 09:26:01 AM
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This shit fuck has never gave a shit about dead soldiers.

He has never been there to receive the dead.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-skips-dover-soldiers-golf_n_67effa46e4b0bb67eb7acc1a

He only ran a photo op at Arlington in 2024 which is (surprise surprise) illegal to do because those grounds aren't supposed to be used for political purposes.
https://thehill.com/policy/defense/4854751-democrats-attack-donald-trump-arlington/

The only thing he supports when it comes to the military are their votes and the military contracts that come with it. Other than that, he can give to shits about the service men and women themselves.



Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: skate_bored on March 06, 2026, 05:51:26 PM
think i have officially given up or become numb to it all. i cant picture anyone doing anything (lets call it spawn* camping) all of the us officials, all of the next in line, etc. it would have to get "messy". nobody will do it because they will end up the crazy guy on tv. we're stuck.

cant change the game, just have to find a way to get good at it.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: GardenSkater77 on March 07, 2026, 07:13:03 AM
James Carville is a national…

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=w_1LyLFMy7Q&pp=iggCQAE%3D

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: RichardBarkley on March 08, 2026, 11:47:51 PM
Fuel prices already sky rocketing.

Thank you America and Israel for making everybody's life's harder.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Jim and Dan on March 09, 2026, 06:08:45 AM
Fuel prices already sky rocketing.

Thank you America and Israel for making everybody's life's harder.

Didn't make their lives harder...
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Chalupa on March 09, 2026, 08:15:23 AM
It’s up $0.80/gallon where I am. I regret not filling the tank before the weekend, but feel like it’s going to hit $5-6/gallon outside of CA and the more expensive states. The administration will casually say that Americans have to suffer in order for them to “defend freedom.”
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Billy Bitchcakes on March 09, 2026, 09:29:55 AM
False flag operation on its way soon?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on March 09, 2026, 09:46:42 AM
Reminded my mom that she told me if I voted for Kamala, the US would be at war and gas, groceries, and cost of living would dramatically rise and she was right.

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on March 09, 2026, 10:32:18 AM
False flag operation on its way soon?

*gestures to everything*

From National Guard in cities, to Minneapolis fraud, to his own damn assassination attempt.

Everything this administration does is a false flag.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on March 09, 2026, 02:00:43 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/Cx0rW6rH/IMG-6650.png) (https://postimg.cc/N5NxXbc5)

https://newrepublic.com/post/207508/13-year-old-trump-accuser-epstein-files-details-story-verified

Get ready. We’re going to nuke someplace to cover up this coming out. This is the same girl that was a key witness in getting Maxwell convicted. If the story timeline is about the same as when they reported the DOJ covering up her Epstein files interviews,it’ll be about 2 weeks before he needs a really big distraction(we attacked Iran 1 day after the major news outlets covered it) so we’ll have an ‘attack’ on our soil or we’ll nuke someone to try and burry the 38 year old tRump raped a 13 year old little girl.

WERE FUCKED.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on March 09, 2026, 02:13:59 PM
I kinda find “distraction from the Epstein files” a weak excuse for Trump’s actions.   Things happen to be coming out while he’s doing things he’s hinted at and planned with his donors and politically allies in secret.   Making his bad actions seem like knee jerk/Wag the Dog responses take away from the calculated criminality of his presidency
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: GardenSkater77 on March 09, 2026, 02:37:31 PM
I wonder if his top donor had any influence…

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DSZVq-UkzOP/?hl=en
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Abyss1 on March 09, 2026, 05:17:56 PM
It’s up $0.80/gallon where I am. I regret not filling the tank before the weekend, but feel like it’s going to hit $5-6/gallon outside of CA and the more expensive states. The administration will casually say that Americans have to suffer in order for them to “defend freedom.”

In Cali it's at $6.00 roughly and I just had to pay nearly $100 to fill a 15 gal tank...EV's looking more and more like the future option if this shit keeps up, just can't do with the range and supercharger adpater issues
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on March 09, 2026, 05:44:12 PM
I kinda find “distraction from the Epstein files” a weak excuse for Trump’s actions.   Things happen to be coming out while he’s doing things he’s hinted at and planned with his donors and politically allies in secret.   Making his bad actions seem like knee jerk/Wag the Dog responses take away from the calculated criminality of his presidency

Fair enough. Honestly, probably a combination of both.

Gas where I live has jumped over $1 in less than 2 days.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on March 09, 2026, 06:51:28 PM
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I kinda find “distraction from the Epstein files” a weak excuse for Trump’s actions.   Things happen to be coming out while he’s doing things he’s hinted at and planned with his donors and politically allies in secret.   Making his bad actions seem like knee jerk/Wag the Dog responses take away from the calculated criminality of his presidency
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Fair enough. Honestly, probably a combination of both.

Gas where I live has jumped over $1 in less than 2 days.


I didn’t mean to single you out - I’ve just been hearing it a lot this past week
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Post by: TastyBurrito on March 09, 2026, 06:53:48 PM
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I kinda find “distraction from the Epstein files” a weak excuse for Trump’s actions.   Things happen to be coming out while he’s doing things he’s hinted at and planned with his donors and politically allies in secret.   Making his bad actions seem like knee jerk/Wag the Dog responses take away from the calculated criminality of his presidency
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Fair enough. Honestly, probably a combination of both.

Gas where I live has jumped over $1 in less than 2 days.
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I didn’t mean to single you out - I’ve just been hearing it a lot this past week

Two things can exist at the same time.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on March 09, 2026, 06:54:39 PM
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It’s up $0.80/gallon where I am. I regret not filling the tank before the weekend, but feel like it’s going to hit $5-6/gallon outside of CA and the more expensive states. The administration will casually say that Americans have to suffer in order for them to “defend freedom.”
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In Cali it's at $6.00 roughly and I just had to pay nearly $100 to fill a 15 gal tank...EV's looking more and more like the future option if this shit keeps up, just can't do with the range and supercharger adpater issues

What kind of range do you need?   

Are the supercharger issues with Tesla charging stations?   I hate too.   
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on March 09, 2026, 07:04:02 PM
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I kinda find “distraction from the Epstein files” a weak excuse for Trump’s actions.   Things happen to be coming out while he’s doing things he’s hinted at and planned with his donors and politically allies in secret.   Making his bad actions seem like knee jerk/Wag the Dog responses take away from the calculated criminality of his presidency
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Fair enough. Honestly, probably a combination of both.

Gas where I live has jumped over $1 in less than 2 days.
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I didn’t mean to single you out - I’ve just been hearing it a lot this past week
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Two things can exist at the same time.


True, but people say it about everything he does.  Venezuela was to distract from the Epstein Files.   Minneapolis.  Etc.  obviously he wants it to go away, but I don’t think his actions are about suppressing any news story about them.   his base has already excused it in their minds and everyone else disapproves of him as it is.   he’s just keeping on doing what his donors and base want
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Abyss1 on March 09, 2026, 07:05:05 PM
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It’s up $0.80/gallon where I am. I regret not filling the tank before the weekend, but feel like it’s going to hit $5-6/gallon outside of CA and the more expensive states. The administration will casually say that Americans have to suffer in order for them to “defend freedom.”
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In Cali it's at $6.00 roughly and I just had to pay nearly $100 to fill a 15 gal tank...EV's looking more and more like the future option if this shit keeps up, just can't do with the range and supercharger adpater issues
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What kind of range do you need?   

Are the supercharger issues with Tesla charging stations?   I hate too.

I want 500miles on a charge, it’s not there yet due to battery tech once it does I’m in

I heard that a lot of the adapters for the Tesla super charger stations don’t work
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Rusty Shackleford on March 09, 2026, 07:05:42 PM
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they'll probably be slapping this all over the ufc shit this summer...this family only sees dollar signs SMH
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on March 09, 2026, 07:17:00 PM
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I kinda find “distraction from the Epstein files” a weak excuse for Trump’s actions.   Things happen to be coming out while he’s doing things he’s hinted at and planned with his donors and politically allies in secret.   Making his bad actions seem like knee jerk/Wag the Dog responses take away from the calculated criminality of his presidency
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Fair enough. Honestly, probably a combination of both.

Gas where I live has jumped over $1 in less than 2 days.
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I didn’t mean to single you out - I’ve just been hearing it a lot this past week

Nah you’re good. Didn’t feel like you singled me out at all(I Gnar’d your post) and if I need called out feel free. I know I can get shit wrong.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on March 09, 2026, 07:59:46 PM
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It’s up $0.80/gallon where I am. I regret not filling the tank before the weekend, but feel like it’s going to hit $5-6/gallon outside of CA and the more expensive states. The administration will casually say that Americans have to suffer in order for them to “defend freedom.”
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In Cali it's at $6.00 roughly and I just had to pay nearly $100 to fill a 15 gal tank...EV's looking more and more like the future option if this shit keeps up, just can't do with the range and supercharger adpater issues
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What kind of range do you need?   

Are the supercharger issues with Tesla charging stations?   I hate too.
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I want 500miles on a charge, it’s not there yet due to battery tech once it does I’m in

I heard that a lot of the adapters for the Tesla super charger stations don’t work

Yeah I have an EV (leased at the tail end of pre-pandemic bliss) and those adapters definitely are shit.   Some kind of regulation needs to be passed that gets Tesla on th same system as everyone else, the way Europe made Apple ditch their proprietary shit
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: botefdunn on March 09, 2026, 10:10:04 PM
After killing 160+ little girls on feb 28, the u.s. administration has spent all week bragging about their targeting precision and efficiency, shown no remorse, nor even been willing to recognize what they did.
They are as responsible for these deaths as any school shooter has ever been and should not be talked about as politicians, or officials, but as what they are: murderous religious extremists and straight up lunatics.
And meanwhile, where's the outrage? where are the tears? Is it even possible to imagine and mourn 160 little kids blown up in a split second?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: The real veganshawn on March 10, 2026, 05:15:00 AM
After killing 160+ little girls on feb 28, the u.s. administration has spent all week bragging about their targeting precision and efficiency, shown no remorse, nor even been willing to recognize what they did.
They are as responsible for these deaths as any school shooter has ever been and should not be talked about as politicians, or officials, but as what they are: murderous religious extremists and straight up lunatics.
And meanwhile, where's the outrage? where are the tears? Is it even possible to imagine and mourn 160 little kids blown up in a split second?
On the Democracy ish YouTube show they said the bombing was due to the use of AI for targeting. The administration is claiming it was another country now.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Chalupa on March 10, 2026, 06:15:39 AM
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After killing 160+ little girls on feb 28, the u.s. administration has spent all week bragging about their targeting precision and efficiency, shown no remorse, nor even been willing to recognize what they did.
They are as responsible for these deaths as any school shooter has ever been and should not be talked about as politicians, or officials, but as what they are: murderous religious extremists and straight up lunatics.
And meanwhile, where's the outrage? where are the tears? Is it even possible to imagine and mourn 160 little kids blown up in a split second?
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On the Democracy ish YouTube show they said the bombing was due to the use of AI for targeting. The administration is claiming it was another country now.
The Trump administration has been saying that Iran misfired a missile, despite the fact that no country in the region has Tomahawk missiles, including Israel. Australia and Netherlands aren’t in the region, which only leaves UK and USA.

The Pentagon, aside from Hegseth, is only saying that they have no comment because it’s “under investigation.” The USA will act like Israel and clear themselves of any wrongdoing, once the “investigation” is over.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on March 10, 2026, 08:29:35 AM
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After killing 160+ little girls on feb 28, the u.s. administration has spent all week bragging about their targeting precision and efficiency, shown no remorse, nor even been willing to recognize what they did.
They are as responsible for these deaths as any school shooter has ever been and should not be talked about as politicians, or officials, but as what they are: murderous religious extremists and straight up lunatics.
And meanwhile, where's the outrage? where are the tears? Is it even possible to imagine and mourn 160 little kids blown up in a split second?
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On the Democracy ish YouTube show they said the bombing was due to the use of AI for targeting. The administration is claiming it was another country now.
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The Trump administration has been saying that Iran misfired a missile, despite the fact that no country in the region has Tomahawk missiles, including Israel. Australia and Netherlands aren’t in the region, which only leaves UK and USA.

The Pentagon, aside from Hegseth, is only saying that they have no comment because it’s “under investigation.” The USA will act like Israel and clear themselves of any wrongdoing, once the “investigation” is over.

Even Hegseth knows they fucked up. Hence his going to the simple answer of “under investigation.”

They’re just waiting for Stephen Millers script of how to blame the bombing of that school on Obama.

Also, Trump went on a rant about dead soldiers walking around… https://newrepublic.com/post/207572/trump-rant-dead-soldiers-walking-around-no-legs-iran

“We think they should put a president in or the head of the country that’s going to be able to do something peacefully for a change. They’ve been doing this for 47 years, killing people for 47 years. Whether it’s the barracks or even the SS Cole where they were involved, very strongly, they always denied it,” Trump said. “But they were very strongly involved and all of the people that died through the roadside bombs died and are right now walking around with no legs, no arms. A face that’s been so badly damaged.”

The fact that people can constantly listen to this dribble and still have the conviction to call him the most eloquently spoken president ever…



Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: JANUS on March 11, 2026, 04:52:34 AM
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Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Chalupa on March 11, 2026, 10:18:24 AM
He was talking about expanding the “SAVE Act” to close “loopholes” to make voters show more than 1 form of voter ID, but that was a Freudian slip. Republicans on social media have been lying, as usual, saying that he was talking about marriage in Muslim countries.

I don’t understand how a child having an ID has anything to do with a parent showing IDs to vote. No one shows their child’s ID to vote. He doesn’t understand how anything works, like when he said that people have to show ID to buy groceries.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on March 11, 2026, 10:19:52 AM
He was talking about expanding the “SAVE Act” to close “loopholes” to make voters show more than 1 form of voter ID, but that was a Freudian slip. Republicans on social media have been lying, as usual, saying that he was talking about marriage in Muslim countries.

I don’t understand how a child having an ID has anything to do with a parent showing IDs to vote. No one shows their child’s ID to vote. He doesn’t understand how anything works, like when he said that people have to show ID to buy groceries.

He doesn't know how anything other than child trafficking works.

This whole administration is about creating problematic solutions to problems that never existed.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on March 11, 2026, 01:47:02 PM
My mom sent me that article about possible drone strikes on CA.

To which I responded, "and that's the fault of which President who started a war with Iran?"

I'm being ignored now.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on March 11, 2026, 02:13:45 PM
My mom sent me that article about possible drone strikes on CA.

To which I responded, "and that's the fault of which President who started a war with Iran?"

I'm being ignored now.



Oh didn’t catch that.   Well at least I don’t live blocks away from a high profile event like the Oscar’s…
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on March 11, 2026, 02:21:50 PM
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My mom sent me that article about possible drone strikes on CA.

To which I responded, "and that's the fault of which President who started a war with Iran?"

I'm being ignored now.
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Oh didn’t catch that.   Well at least I don’t live blocks away from a high profile event like the Oscar’s…

Truth be told, if any place in CA would be a target, it would be San Diego. SD houses a large portion of the military’s fleet as well as naval aviation.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on March 11, 2026, 02:58:02 PM
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My mom sent me that article about possible drone strikes on CA.

To which I responded, "and that's the fault of which President who started a war with Iran?"

I'm being ignored now.
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Oh didn’t catch that.   Well at least I don’t live blocks away from a high profile event like the Oscar’s…
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Truth be told, if any place in CA would be a target, it would be San Diego. SD houses a large portion of the military’s fleet as well as naval aviation.


True - whenever I catastrophized about that in the past I would think Silicon Valley or tech hub/Long Beach Harbor/Military bases would be more relevant targets…but having all those people in one spot days after the warning just gave me the willies
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Abyss1 on March 11, 2026, 03:13:34 PM
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My mom sent me that article about possible drone strikes on CA.

To which I responded, "and that's the fault of which President who started a war with Iran?"

I'm being ignored now.
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Oh didn’t catch that.   Well at least I don’t live blocks away from a high profile event like the Oscar’s…
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Truth be told, if any place in CA would be a target, it would be San Diego. SD houses a large portion of the military’s fleet as well as naval aviation.
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True - whenever I catastrophized about that in the past I would think Silicon Valley or tech hub/Long Beach Harbor/Military bases would be more relevant targets…but having all those people in one spot days after the warning just gave me the willies

Moffet Field Air Force base (huge aerospace wind tunnel ), Lockheed, NASA all technically in silicon valley

I've gotten a bunch of jobs for companies in Palo Alto that have contracts with DOD. 

highly doubt a drone strike would be possible in CA...maybe cyber attacks but not actual bombs
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Post by: ToySanta on March 11, 2026, 05:05:08 PM
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Embarrassing display by the left showing their anti American ideals yet again

https://youtube.com/shorts/E5mQAawr-KM?si=7iQk77Y-eg0WpW83
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Yeah the draft dodging pathological liar pedophile really exemplifies American values.  Get fucked.
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Was this not a joke? I read it as a joke.
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I too read it as facetious

I thought this possible but the comments under the video are all pretty fuckin terrible opinion-wise, so I thought not a joke. If it is a joke, I misread the sarcasm, and the comments are more a reflection of Clevelanders who comment on their local news channels youtube clips, I will apologize.

Now back to our war on Iran: I dunno if I’d recommend this read because I am very much acab, but according to this profile this counterterrorism unit has foiled three or four plots by Iran to kill Trump. Is all this current bullshit also partly revenge? Bleh. I understand why it’d be bad if a sitting president were offed but god damn if they wouldn’t be doing the world a favor!

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/story/nypd-intelligence-counterterrorism
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Post by: Chalupa on March 11, 2026, 05:21:40 PM
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My mom sent me that article about possible drone strikes on CA.

To which I responded, "and that's the fault of which President who started a war with Iran?"

I'm being ignored now.
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Oh didn’t catch that.   Well at least I don’t live blocks away from a high profile event like the Oscar’s…
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Truth be told, if any place in CA would be a target, it would be San Diego. SD houses a large portion of the military’s fleet as well as naval aviation.
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True - whenever I catastrophized about that in the past I would think Silicon Valley or tech hub/Long Beach Harbor/Military bases would be more relevant targets…but having all those people in one spot days after the warning just gave me the willies
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Moffet Field Air Force base (huge aerospace wind tunnel ), Lockheed, NASA all technically in silicon valley

I've gotten a bunch of jobs for companies in Palo Alto that have contracts with DOD. 

highly doubt a drone strike would be possible in CA...maybe cyber attacks but not actual bombs
Iran is over 7k miles away from CA. If anything, CIA or Mossad will do a false flag operation to gain support so they can expand the war, and maybe allow Republicans to pass legislation that cancels elections during wartime.
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Post by: TastyBurrito on March 11, 2026, 05:48:18 PM
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My mom sent me that article about possible drone strikes on CA.

To which I responded, "and that's the fault of which President who started a war with Iran?"

I'm being ignored now.
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Oh didn’t catch that.   Well at least I don’t live blocks away from a high profile event like the Oscar’s…
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Truth be told, if any place in CA would be a target, it would be San Diego. SD houses a large portion of the military’s fleet as well as naval aviation.
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True - whenever I catastrophized about that in the past I would think Silicon Valley or tech hub/Long Beach Harbor/Military bases would be more relevant targets…but having all those people in one spot days after the warning just gave me the willies
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Moffet Field Air Force base (huge aerospace wind tunnel ), Lockheed, NASA all technically in silicon valley

I've gotten a bunch of jobs for companies in Palo Alto that have contracts with DOD. 

highly doubt a drone strike would be possible in CA...maybe cyber attacks but not actual bombs
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Iran is over 7k miles away from CA. If anything, CIA or Mossad will do a false flag operation to gain support so they can expand the war, and maybe allow Republicans to pass legislation that cancels elections during wartime.

The claim from "FBI Intelligence" is saying they're working with Cartels in Mexico and/or will be launching them from South America. Regardless, if CA is hit — false flag or not — I don't see Trump doing anything to help the state in the aftermath.
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Post by: Abyss1 on March 11, 2026, 05:53:22 PM
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My mom sent me that article about possible drone strikes on CA.

To which I responded, "and that's the fault of which President who started a war with Iran?"

I'm being ignored now.
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Oh didn’t catch that.   Well at least I don’t live blocks away from a high profile event like the Oscar’s…
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Truth be told, if any place in CA would be a target, it would be San Diego. SD houses a large portion of the military’s fleet as well as naval aviation.
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True - whenever I catastrophized about that in the past I would think Silicon Valley or tech hub/Long Beach Harbor/Military bases would be more relevant targets…but having all those people in one spot days after the warning just gave me the willies
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Moffet Field Air Force base (huge aerospace wind tunnel ), Lockheed, NASA all technically in silicon valley

I've gotten a bunch of jobs for companies in Palo Alto that have contracts with DOD. 

highly doubt a drone strike would be possible in CA...maybe cyber attacks but not actual bombs
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Iran is over 7k miles away from CA. If anything, CIA or Mossad will do a false flag operation to gain support so they can expand the war, and maybe allow Republicans to pass legislation that cancels elections during wartime.
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The claim from "FBI Intelligence" is saying they're working with Cartels in Mexico and/or will be launching them from South America. Regardless, if CA is hit — false flag or not — I don't see Trump doing anything to help the state in the aftermath.

lol, is this the same FBI that hunted down charlie kirks assassin

Cartels have to much money coming in from Fentanyl and other drugs to align with Iran or any other country that hated US
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My mom sent me that article about possible drone strikes on CA.

To which I responded, "and that's the fault of which President who started a war with Iran?"

I'm being ignored now.
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Oh didn’t catch that.   Well at least I don’t live blocks away from a high profile event like the Oscar’s…
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Truth be told, if any place in CA would be a target, it would be San Diego. SD houses a large portion of the military’s fleet as well as naval aviation.
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True - whenever I catastrophized about that in the past I would think Silicon Valley or tech hub/Long Beach Harbor/Military bases would be more relevant targets…but having all those people in one spot days after the warning just gave me the willies
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Moffet Field Air Force base (huge aerospace wind tunnel ), Lockheed, NASA all technically in silicon valley

I've gotten a bunch of jobs for companies in Palo Alto that have contracts with DOD. 

highly doubt a drone strike would be possible in CA...maybe cyber attacks but not actual bombs
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Iran is over 7k miles away from CA. If anything, CIA or Mossad will do a false flag operation to gain support so they can expand the war, and maybe allow Republicans to pass legislation that cancels elections during wartime.
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The claim from "FBI Intelligence" is saying they're working with Cartels in Mexico and/or will be launching them from South America. Regardless, if CA is hit — false flag or not — I don't see Trump doing anything to help the state in the aftermath.
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lol, is this the same FBI that hunted down charlie kirks assassin

Cartels have to much money coming in from Fentanyl and other drugs to align with Iran or any other country that hated US
The FBI will determine that the cartels are based in Venezuela and then find pro-Iran text painted on the drones.
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My mom sent me that article about possible drone strikes on CA.

To which I responded, "and that's the fault of which President who started a war with Iran?"

I'm being ignored now.
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Oh didn’t catch that.   Well at least I don’t live blocks away from a high profile event like the Oscar’s…
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Truth be told, if any place in CA would be a target, it would be San Diego. SD houses a large portion of the military’s fleet as well as naval aviation.
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True - whenever I catastrophized about that in the past I would think Silicon Valley or tech hub/Long Beach Harbor/Military bases would be more relevant targets…but having all those people in one spot days after the warning just gave me the willies
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Moffet Field Air Force base (huge aerospace wind tunnel ), Lockheed, NASA all technically in silicon valley

I've gotten a bunch of jobs for companies in Palo Alto that have contracts with DOD. 

highly doubt a drone strike would be possible in CA...maybe cyber attacks but not actual bombs
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Iran is over 7k miles away from CA. If anything, CIA or Mossad will do a false flag operation to gain support so they can expand the war, and maybe allow Republicans to pass legislation that cancels elections during wartime.
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The claim from "FBI Intelligence" is saying they're working with Cartels in Mexico and/or will be launching them from South America. Regardless, if CA is hit — false flag or not — I don't see Trump doing anything to help the state in the aftermath.
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lol, is this the same FBI that hunted down charlie kirks assassin

Cartels have to much money coming in from Fentanyl and other drugs to align with Iran or any other country that hated US
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The FBI will determine that the cartels are based in Venezuela and then find pro-Iran text painted on the drones.

FBI intelligence source: Trust me, bro.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on March 11, 2026, 06:41:17 PM
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My mom sent me that article about possible drone strikes on CA.

To which I responded, "and that's the fault of which President who started a war with Iran?"

I'm being ignored now.
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Oh didn’t catch that.   Well at least I don’t live blocks away from a high profile event like the Oscar’s…
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Truth be told, if any place in CA would be a target, it would be San Diego. SD houses a large portion of the military’s fleet as well as naval aviation.
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True - whenever I catastrophized about that in the past I would think Silicon Valley or tech hub/Long Beach Harbor/Military bases would be more relevant targets…but having all those people in one spot days after the warning just gave me the willies
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Moffet Field Air Force base (huge aerospace wind tunnel ), Lockheed, NASA all technically in silicon valley

I've gotten a bunch of jobs for companies in Palo Alto that have contracts with DOD. 

highly doubt a drone strike would be possible in CA...maybe cyber attacks but not actual bombs
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Iran is over 7k miles away from CA. If anything, CIA or Mossad will do a false flag operation to gain support so they can expand the war, and maybe allow Republicans to pass legislation that cancels elections during wartime.
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The claim from "FBI Intelligence" is saying they're working with Cartels in Mexico and/or will be launching them from South America. Regardless, if CA is hit — false flag or not — I don't see Trump doing anything to help the state in the aftermath.
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lol, is this the same FBI that hunted down charlie kirks assassin

Cartels have to much money coming in from Fentanyl and other drugs to align with Iran or any other country that hated US
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The FBI will determine that the cartels are based in Venezuela and then find pro-Iran text painted on the drones.
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FBI intelligence source: Trust me, bro.


Okay everyone take a beat.  This is circulating a bad misremembering of the article. 

The threat from Iran would come from a ship off the coast of California, not launched from Iran. 

The threat of cartels using drone is a separate incident of unmanned drones being used against the US this time along the border.   There is no relationship between the cartels and Iran other than potential method of attack

http://abcnews.com/amp/US/fbi-warns-iran-aspired-attack-california-drones-retaliation/story
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on March 11, 2026, 08:55:47 PM
Trump just enforced Jake Paul for any political seat, starting rumors he might run for congress.

LOL. Any state that votes that turd into office deserves  to be hit by the 10 plagues of Egypt
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on March 11, 2026, 09:38:25 PM
Trump just enforced Jake Paul for any political seat, starting rumors he might run for congress.

LOL. Any state that votes that turd into office deserves  to be hit by the 10 plagues of Egypt

Now that is a distraction
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: sometimeperhaps on March 12, 2026, 08:43:41 AM
Well done America, really raising the bar for being complete and utter fucking idiots in every possible way. Can’t wait to see what else you have planned.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Chalupa on March 12, 2026, 12:24:00 PM
Well done America, really raising the bar for being complete and utter fucking idiots in every possible way. Can’t wait to see what else you have planned.
He’s going to bomb multiple countries in Central and South America to get rid of “narcoterrorists.” Searches for “Epstein Files” has gone down 95% since he attacked Iran.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gy45xwjZFpE
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Nom De Plume on March 12, 2026, 03:41:52 PM
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Trump just enforced Jake Paul for any political seat, starting rumors he might run for congress.

LOL. Any state that votes that turd into office deserves  to be hit by the 10 plagues of Egypt
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Now that is a distraction
'Murica and this administration are making Mike Judge look like a prophet.

Also, this sign looked different last year of course. It's in a state park, people were taking turns taking pictures with it. I'm sure they did that when it said Gulf of Mexico. But now it feels like taking a pic there has political implications. That sucks. Yeah, thumbs up lady.
(https://i.postimg.cc/nrj167V9/IMG-2132.jpg)
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: The Huffer on March 13, 2026, 09:14:44 AM
Well worth a watch to consider where the Iran war goes from here,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sl-sSsZnSP8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sl-sSsZnSP8)
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Rusty Shackleford on March 13, 2026, 11:57:41 AM
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...very telling. the 25th amendment will never happen; these guys would rather publicly humiliate themselves shuffling around in their clown shoes than tell Donald no
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Chalupa on March 13, 2026, 01:07:05 PM
His administration is so cucked, they wear Florsheims that Trump gifted to males. They make enough money to buy the same shoes in the correct size for around $150, but I guess they’re either too cheap or don’t want to offend their fuhrer.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/mar/10/trump-florsheim-shoes

For a billionaire, he has shit taste. He eats McDonald’s, drenches steaks in ketchup, wears JCPenney shoes, and decorates everything in fake gold.

Even if Democrats have a majority in the senate and house, Thomas Massie would be the only Republican that would vote for impeachment. Everyone else will cling to Trump’s nutsack, but then claim that they never supported the guy, once allegations in the Epstein files are verified, which will probably be after his death.

The fact that there is no pushback from Republicans except for Rand Paul, regarding the war in Iran, tells you everything you need to know. As long as oil companies and weapons manufacturers are making money, there is no issue. There isn’t enough money for low-income people to get food and healthcare benefits, but there will always be unconditional money for Israel and killing people in the Middle East to steal their resources. Republicans talking about reducing the deficit has always been bullshit.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: GardenSkater77 on March 13, 2026, 10:08:59 PM
Did not catch this on the nightly news but it looks like Trump is sending 5,000 marines to Iran. Probably so they can get the oil moving again. This is so sad. So Trump can save face he is sending our troops into who even knows what is waiting for them.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trump-reportedly-orders-5-000-194112064.html
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: AnimalChinaski79 on March 14, 2026, 03:55:43 AM
Did not catch this on the nightly news but it looks like Trump is sending 5,000 marines to Iran. Probably so they can get the oil moving again. This is so sad. So Trump can save face he is sending our troops into who even knows what is waiting for them.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trump-reportedly-orders-5-000-194112064.html

All of this without any congressional approval.  A fucking draft dodging pedophile sending Marines to their death.   
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on March 14, 2026, 09:57:16 AM
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Did not catch this on the nightly news but it looks like Trump is sending 5,000 marines to Iran. Probably so they can get the oil moving again. This is so sad. So Trump can save face he is sending our troops into who even knows what is waiting for them.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trump-reportedly-orders-5-000-194112064.html
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All of this without any congressional approval.  A fucking draft dodging pedophile sending Marines to their death.
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Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Rusty Shackleford on March 14, 2026, 10:00:16 AM
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...and the grift goes on
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: GardenSkater77 on March 14, 2026, 10:26:29 AM
Interesting conversation about Iran war what happens next with Paul Krugman.

https://youtu.be/DuAJYabShdY?si=zb5SvXrf4GQG1tne
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on March 15, 2026, 05:17:27 PM
I would like to walk back my initial ambivalence to this war. This is a fucking disaster.

And, the fact that Trump is now asking for other countries to help America secure the Strait of Hormuz is fucking crazy. Even though Israel is the tail that wags the dog, America made the choice to enter this war. Trump and friends made the choice to ignore the military--who aren't idiot yes men--that said, there is a reason no one did this before.

Russia and China and Israel are the key beneficiaries to this whole excursion. American oil companies may make more profit for a while as they will get a higher price for their product without any extra work, but the rest of the world, including regular Americans (higher costs) and regular Iranians (the black rain in Tehran was just one of the many prices these people will face) who don't support the regime, will pay for this. And, I am skeptical that we see any sort of regime change in Iran.

The fact that Trump is now asking everyone else to send their navies to secure the strait is insane to me. He made the problem while he wanted to play global police officer and then wants everyone else to pick up the tab? Reminds me of the saying, "If you owe the bank 1K, it is your problem. If you owe the bank 100 million, it is the banks problem." There was a reason many banks wouldn't lend to this asshole. But, I suppose as long as Kushner is getting rich and the American oil companies make more profit, it is all worth it.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on March 15, 2026, 09:45:51 PM
Israel is one of the tails, but the other huge driver of Trump is the oil industry.   Remember when he asked them for the billion dollar(?) donation?   Everything he’s done has been to prop up that industry (see new BP extreme deep water drilling just approved in the Gulf of Mexico, attacking CA’s ban on coastal drilling just within the past week/since the start of the war)
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: The Drew on March 16, 2026, 01:54:43 AM
The only way for a regime change in Iran to happen would be for the US (and anyone silly enough to go along with an invasion) to send in troops and systematically clear large areas of IRAN of IRGC and then hold those areas until the local people can sort out who is going to run the country .... but IRAN is fucking massive & the US hasn't been very successful of doing this in the past so... I am guessing the shit show will continue for quite some time

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: AnimalChinaski79 on March 16, 2026, 05:32:39 AM
Now the orange child rapist is begging our "allies" to send help to open the Strait.  The same allies he's shit on and trashed with tariffs for the past year.  You can't make this shit up I tell ya.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on March 16, 2026, 09:35:18 AM
Now the orange child rapist is begging our "allies" to send help to open the Strait.  The same allies he's shit on and trashed with tariffs for the past year.  You can't make this shit up I tell ya.

And un-surprisingly enough, all of them basically told him to go fuck himself.

Now shitstain Hitler is acting like they betrayed him.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Chalupa on March 16, 2026, 10:33:11 AM
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Are we great again?

Corporations never lower their prices for goods and services if their transportation and production prices go down. We have to suffer so the rich can get richer, and people talk about things other than the Epstein Files.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: RichardBarkley on March 16, 2026, 03:14:40 PM
I thought he said he could take Canada and Greenland from his allies the “easy way” or the “hard way.”

I thought he said he didn’t need any allies when it came to Iran.

I thought he told the UK, Spain, and France to basically fuck off.

I thought he called Denmark a shitty ally with a useless army.

I thought Zelensky was supposedly “the last guy” he needed help from.

And I thought he told the world seven times in two weeks that the war was already won?

I’m not sure how history will ultimately describe this period, but it’s hard to imagine Donald Trump not being remembered as one of the most incompetent leaders of the 21st century.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: brycickle on March 16, 2026, 04:38:15 PM
I thought he said he could take Canada and Greenland from his allies the “easy way” or the “hard way.”

I thought he said he didn’t need any allies when it came to Iran.

I thought he told the UK, Spain, and France to basically fuck off.

I thought he called Denmark a shitty ally with a useless army.

I thought Zelensky was supposedly “the last guy” he needed help from.

And I thought he told the world seven times in two weeks that the war was already won?

I’m not sure how history will ultimately describe this period, but it’s hard to imagine Donald Trump not being remembered as one of the most incompetent leaders of the 21st century.
I think you may be selling it a little bit short by limiting him to just the 21st century.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Billy Bitchcakes on March 16, 2026, 04:45:36 PM
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Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on March 16, 2026, 06:29:21 PM
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But he doesn’t take a salary…
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on March 16, 2026, 07:38:28 PM
Well, if you count bribes, he does take a salary.
(https://i.postimg.cc/8CPFtcLV/IMG-6675.png) (https://postimg.cc/jDmdjs88)
If it wasn’t the last 4 living presidents he spoke with is Dementia Donald having conversations with dead people? I know Syphilis and Dementia will fuck with peoples minds heavily. Or is he just lying again?
 As for help from our allies, fuck us. Don’t help that sack of shit, he made his bed let him fucking rot in it alone. Can’t wait for the terrorist bombing of Maralargo, his hotels, and his golf clubs!
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on March 16, 2026, 07:54:58 PM
Well, if you count bribes, he does take a salary.
(https://i.postimg.cc/8CPFtcLV/IMG-6675.png) (https://postimg.cc/jDmdjs88)
If it wasn’t the last 4 living presidents he spoke with is Dementia Donald having conversations with dead people? I know Syphilis and Dementia will fuck with peoples minds heavily. Or is he just lying again?
 As for help from our allies, fuck us. Don’t help that sack of shit, he made his bed let him fucking rot in it alone. Can’t wait for the terrorist bombing of Maralargo, his hotels, and his golf clubs!

100% the former president he was talking to was himself.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on March 16, 2026, 11:52:00 PM
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Well, if you count bribes, he does take a salary.
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If it wasn’t the last 4 living presidents he spoke with is Dementia Donald having conversations with dead people? I know Syphilis and Dementia will fuck with peoples minds heavily. Or is he just lying again?
 As for help from our allies, fuck us. Don’t help that sack of shit, he made his bed let him fucking rot in it alone. Can’t wait for the terrorist bombing of Maralargo, his hotels, and his golf clubs!
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100% the former president he was talking to was himself.


Maybe he talked to Glen Beck’s AI George Washington (have fun with that google)
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: AnimalChinaski79 on March 17, 2026, 03:19:17 AM
Has anyone  here written off any MAGA family members?  My parents are on the verge of me telling them to fuck off and stay away from me.  I'm pretty much done with anyone that helped enable this mess we are in. 
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: GnarAlarm on March 17, 2026, 05:22:51 AM
Has anyone  here written off any MAGA family members?  My parents are on the verge of me telling them to fuck off and stay away from me.  I'm pretty much done with anyone that helped enable this mess we are in.

I have two MAGA family members, but they don't talk about it at family functions. They're severely outnumbered and outclassed if that debate arises and they know it, and to be fair, they genuinely love our family and banishment would be heartbreaking for them (they're both in the twilight of their lives).

Since they're so old and quiet about it, we are willing to maintain the relationship, if I had a younger and/or louder MAGA family member it'd probably be different.

Thankfully I don't have any close friends that went MAGA, but I've definitely cast off some casual friends and acquaintances.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: big sex on March 17, 2026, 05:49:21 AM
His own parents...

You motherfuckers are so lost

I vote dem, YOU people, are on some other shit

Cultish behavior
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: GnarAlarm on March 17, 2026, 06:06:31 AM
His own parents...

You motherfuckers are so lost

I vote dem, YOU people, are on some other shit

Cultish behavior

For real, man. You should probably go, like high tail it outta here as fast as you can.
You don't wanna get mixed up in this cult, we'll make you drink your own pee and max out all your credit cards on Bloomin' Onions from the Outback Steakhouse. Run! Run away!
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: big sex on March 17, 2026, 06:13:04 AM
Or makeme paint my toenails, or post my hairy fucking asshole. Oh wait those dudes here just did it for free...
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on March 17, 2026, 06:30:21 AM
His own parents...

You motherfuckers are so lost

I vote dem, YOU people, are on some other shit

Cultish behavior

You really just speed running to get the ban hammer aren’t ya?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: JANUS on March 17, 2026, 06:40:14 AM
Or makeme paint my toenails, or post my hairy fucking asshole. Oh wait those dudes here just did it for free...

Then post a starfish, fuccboi.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: one-off on March 17, 2026, 07:12:02 AM
It's getting so bad Trump's going to need to use his Epstein history to distract from Iran
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: roba on March 17, 2026, 08:26:30 AM
nah last i heard he’s talking about taking over cuba
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Chalupa on March 17, 2026, 08:40:44 AM
"The President of the United States, Gavin Newscum, admitted that he has learning disabilities, dyslexia. Everything about him is dumb."

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/said-spoke-a-former-president-bombing-iran-four-denials-suggest-not-rcna263819

Where is that bitch, Jake Tapper, and why isn’t he complaining about Trump having dementia?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: AnimalChinaski79 on March 17, 2026, 09:18:20 AM
His own parents...

You motherfuckers are so lost

I vote dem, YOU people, are on some other shit

Cultish behavior

Really?   For not wanting to be involved with bigots, pedophile apoligists and simpleminded fools that have enabled the biggest monster on the planet?  That makes me in a cult?  Ok you fucking knob.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on March 17, 2026, 09:31:52 AM
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Well, if you count bribes, he does take a salary.
(https://i.postimg.cc/8CPFtcLV/IMG-6675.png) (https://postimg.cc/jDmdjs88)
If it wasn’t the last 4 living presidents he spoke with is Dementia Donald having conversations with dead people? I know Syphilis and Dementia will fuck with peoples minds heavily. Or is he just lying again?
 As for help from our allies, fuck us. Don’t help that sack of shit, he made his bed let him fucking rot in it alone. Can’t wait for the terrorist bombing of Maralargo, his hotels, and his golf clubs!
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100% the former president he was talking to was himself.
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Maybe he talked to Glen Beck’s AI George Washington (have fun with that google)

All former Presidents are speaking out confirming that Trump didn't talk to them:
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-joe-biden-barack-obama-george-bush-bill-clinton-iran-war-11688326

I guess it's an unspoken rule that former Presidents don't speak on and/or bash the current sitting president. But if they do need to start speaking out on him, then you know it's bad.

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Post by: Chalupa on March 17, 2026, 09:36:58 AM
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Has anyone  here written off any MAGA family members?  My parents are on the verge of me telling them to fuck off and stay away from me.  I'm pretty much done with anyone that helped enable this mess we are in.
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Thankfully I don't have any close friends that went MAGA, but I've definitely cast off some casual friends and acquaintances.
My former best friends were MAGA but I haven’t talked to them since 2023. Anytime Trump-Epstein was mentioned, they would switch the conversation to how Biden was a pedophile. They went out of their way to defend Trump and blame the “liberal media” anytime Trump said something stupid shit like: “You’re the president of the United States, you can declassify just by saying it’s declassified, even by thinking about it.”

Also, they were homophobic but would look at videos of bodybuilder influencers flexing in their underwear.

What made me cut ties was when they said some gross shit along the lines of, “15 is the perfect age to give birth,” and “Women are used up after 28.”

I spend more time skateboarding and making music, so I’m glad I don’t fuck with people whose identity is based on sucking Trump’s dick and going to the gym.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: big sex on March 17, 2026, 10:06:36 AM
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His own parents...

You motherfuckers are so lost

I vote dem, YOU people, are on some other shit

Cultish behavior
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Really?   For not wanting to be involved with bigots, pedophile apoligists and simpleminded fools that have enabled the biggest monster on the planet?
Sure If that's what you wanna call your parents that's on you.

People who thinks Trump's actually a pedephile and Epstein was some elaborate blackmail conspiracy are pretty stupid imo I hate dealing with them it's just qanon pizzagate for the left at this point
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: big sex on March 17, 2026, 10:09:41 AM
If you knowingly fucked with Epstein after the first conviction your on some weird shit, but aside from that shit has been become basically a conspiracy theory for the left
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: WashingtonNECKTIE on March 17, 2026, 11:00:00 AM
If you knowingly fucked with Epstein after the first conviction your on some weird shit, but aside from that shit has been become basically a conspiracy theory for the left
"on some weird shit" is quite the undersell
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: botefdunn on March 18, 2026, 12:05:08 AM
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His own parents...

You motherfuckers are so lost

I vote dem, YOU people, are on some other shit

Cultish behavior
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Really?   For not wanting to be involved with bigots, pedophile apoligists and simpleminded fools that have enabled the biggest monster on the planet?
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Sure If that's what you wanna call your parents that's on you.

People who thinks Trump's actually a pedephile and Epstein was some elaborate blackmail conspiracy are pretty stupid imo I hate dealing with them it's just qanon pizzagate for the left at this point

I'm curious which of these statements you think is true, false, likely, or unlikely:

1. Jeffrey epstein was a convicted sex offender and trafficked minors for the purposes of sex.

2. Underage sex workers were a part of Epstein's entourage and present at various functions and parties he hosted.

3. Trump was friends with epstein and attended numerous epstein functions and parties.

4. Trump attended functions and/or parties where sex workers were present, some of whom may have been minors.

5. Trump may have had sex with sex workers.

6. Trump may have had sex with underage sex workers.


I'm asking because you talk as though trump having sex with a minor is preposterous, whereas to me it seems plausible based on public record. I'm curious where our difference of opinion is coming from. I believe 1-3 are true, and 4-6 are likely.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: AnimalChinaski79 on March 18, 2026, 02:55:42 AM
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His own parents...

You motherfuckers are so lost

I vote dem, YOU people, are on some other shit

Cultish behavior
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Really?   For not wanting to be involved with bigots, pedophile apoligists and simpleminded fools that have enabled the biggest monster on the planet?
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Sure If that's what you wanna call your parents that's on you.

People who thinks Trump's actually a pedephile and Epstein was some elaborate blackmail conspiracy are pretty stupid imo I hate dealing with them it's just qanon pizzagate for the left at this point
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I'm curious which of these statements you think is true, false, likely, or unlikely:

1. Jeffrey epstein was a convicted sex offender and trafficked minors for the purposes of sex.

2. Underage sex workers were a part of Epstein's entourage and present at various functions and parties he hosted.

3. Trump was friends with epstein and attended numerous epstein functions and parties.

4. Trump attended functions and/or parties where sex workers were present, some of whom may have been minors.

5. Trump may have had sex with sex workers.

6. Trump may have had sex with underage sex workers.


I'm asking because you talk as though trump having sex with a minor is preposterous, whereas to me it seems plausible based on public record. I'm curious where our difference of opinion is coming from. I believe 1-3 are true, and 4-6 are likely.


You're not wrong that other dude is just a kook or a shit stirrer.

If Trump wasn't a PEDO or a PEDO protector he would of released the files and offered a version for sale in a tacky gold bound book to his cult of a stupid rubes.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: big sex on March 18, 2026, 06:29:04 AM
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His own parents...

You motherfuckers are so lost

I vote dem, YOU people, are on some other shit

Cultish behavior
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Really?   For not wanting to be involved with bigots, pedophile apoligists and simpleminded fools that have enabled the biggest monster on the planet?
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Sure If that's what you wanna call your parents that's on you.

People who thinks Trump's actually a pedephile and Epstein was some elaborate blackmail conspiracy are pretty stupid imo I hate dealing with them it's just qanon pizzagate for the left at this point
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I'm curious which of these statements you think is true, false, likely, or unlikely:

1. Jeffrey epstein was a convicted sex offender and trafficked minors for the purposes of sex.

2. Underage sex workers were a part of Epstein's entourage and present at various functions and parties he hosted.

3. Trump was friends with epstein and attended numerous epstein functions and parties.

4. Trump attended functions and/or parties where sex workers were present, some of whom may have been minors.

5. Trump may have had sex with sex workers.

6. Trump may have had sex with underage sex workers.


I'm asking because you talk as though trump having sex with a minor is preposterous, whereas to me it seems plausible based on public record. I'm curious where our difference of opinion is coming from. I believe 1-3 are true, and 4-6 are likely.
I'm not here to play 20 questions, just know if you think Trump's a pedo and the gov/world is run by pedos your a dumbass.

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Half-Flab on March 18, 2026, 07:54:24 AM
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His own parents...

You motherfuckers are so lost

I vote dem, YOU people, are on some other shit

Cultish behavior
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Really?   For not wanting to be involved with bigots, pedophile apoligists and simpleminded fools that have enabled the biggest monster on the planet?
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Sure If that's what you wanna call your parents that's on you.

People who thinks Trump's actually a pedephile and Epstein was some elaborate blackmail conspiracy are pretty stupid imo I hate dealing with them it's just qanon pizzagate for the left at this point
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I'm curious which of these statements you think is true, false, likely, or unlikely:

1. Jeffrey epstein was a convicted sex offender and trafficked minors for the purposes of sex.

2. Underage sex workers were a part of Epstein's entourage and present at various functions and parties he hosted.

3. Trump was friends with epstein and attended numerous epstein functions and parties.

4. Trump attended functions and/or parties where sex workers were present, some of whom may have been minors.

5. Trump may have had sex with sex workers.

6. Trump may have had sex with underage sex workers.


I'm asking because you talk as though trump having sex with a minor is preposterous, whereas to me it seems plausible based on public record. I'm curious where our difference of opinion is coming from. I believe 1-3 are true, and 4-6 are likely.
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I'm not here to play 20 questions, just know if you think Trump's a pedo and the gov/world is run by pedos your a dumbass.

It's only one question though?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Emo jimmy on March 18, 2026, 08:19:49 AM
This dude taking every opportunity in any remotely political thread to run his corny Ben Shapiro right wing bully then play victim schtick lol
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: The real veganshawn on March 18, 2026, 08:23:41 AM
Can someone please ban Tim Pool so we can get to intelligent discussions.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: big sex on March 18, 2026, 08:28:09 AM
You calling the police on that! Fuckin dork-os

All you mfs in are doing nothing but pushing people to the right

Why are you pushing me to the right?

Why do you want me to be that?

These attitudes are why trump won

Fuckin police callers
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: big sex on March 18, 2026, 08:34:31 AM
People need to know you can vote dem and not be a complete pussy bitch like you
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: The real veganshawn on March 18, 2026, 08:39:52 AM
It's refreshing to see various European leaders and military personnel standing up to the US, long past time. This Iran boondoggle is really going to fuck up the world economy's.  Israelis just making things worse for themselve..
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: ToySanta on March 18, 2026, 08:46:04 AM
You calling the police on that! Fuckin dork-os

All you mfs in are doing nothing but pushing people to the right

Why are you pushing me to the right?

Why do you want me to be that?

These attitudes are why trump won

Fuckin police callers

No one gets pushed to the right.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: big sex on March 18, 2026, 08:53:54 AM
People get pushed in all directions
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on March 18, 2026, 08:55:50 AM
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You calling the police on that! Fuckin dork-os

All you mfs in are doing nothing but pushing people to the right

Why are you pushing me to the right?

Why do you want me to be that?

These attitudes are why trump won

Fuckin police callers
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No one gets pushed to the right.

Right?! Pure victim mentality.

“Your guys’ using logic and facts is pushing me to support a highly accused pedophile and man already found liable for sexual assault on E. Jean Carroll.”
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: GnarAlarm on March 18, 2026, 08:57:06 AM
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You calling the police on that! Fuckin dork-os

All you mfs in are doing nothing but pushing people to the right

Why are you pushing me to the right?

Why do you want me to be that?

These attitudes are why trump won

Fuckin police callers
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No one gets pushed to the right.

Always reminds me of this tweet from Cody Johnston...

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Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Alan on March 18, 2026, 08:57:22 AM
You calling the police on that! Fuckin dork-os

All you mfs in are doing nothing but pushing people to the right

Why are you pushing me to the right?

Why do you want me to be that?

These attitudes are why trump won

Fuckin police callers

Holy shit, you did the meme! Congrats!

(https://images.dailykos.com/images/574802/story_image/1350.png)
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Noble Experiment on March 18, 2026, 08:57:29 AM
You calling the police on that! Fuckin dork-os

All you mfs in are doing nothing but pushing people to the right

Why are you pushing me to the right?

Why do you want me to be that?

These attitudes are why trump won

Fuckin police callers
No pushing needed, you seem to already be there.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: pop idiot on March 18, 2026, 10:54:20 AM
Has anyone  here written off any MAGA family members?  My parents are on the verge of me telling them to fuck off and stay away from me.  I'm pretty much done with anyone that helped enable this mess we are in.

I have a MAGA uncle, whom I recently hung out with after not seeing for a decade or so. He was my "cool uncle" growing up (used to skate and took me to see Stiff Little Fingers) and my intent going in was to enjoy the company of someone who I disagree with about most things but care about enough to try.

It was fun! We roasted each other all night but a thru-line was found quickly: we both agreed that billionaires are the problem. After that, any talking point was kind of moot when you remove semantics and propaganda. He's retired Air Force so I called him a goddamn socialist for his free healthcare, schooling and housing assistance, saying he secretly voted for Bernie. Kept telling him to be careful not to get infected by my libtard wokeness in case the cure only comes in vaccine form. In jest, he started calling himself my white nationalist uncle and kept offering to take me to see Sammy Hagar. I wonder if Lucero roasts Lance in a similar manner? My uncle is indoctrinated, ageing and comfortable, but I don't see his beliefs coming from a place of hatred. Only fear.

Anyways, I bet (hope) a thru-line can be found with your Rents and I think it's kinda our job to try. Empathy n'stuff.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: botefdunn on March 18, 2026, 11:33:27 AM
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His own parents...

You motherfuckers are so lost

I vote dem, YOU people, are on some other shit

Cultish behavior
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Really?   For not wanting to be involved with bigots, pedophile apoligists and simpleminded fools that have enabled the biggest monster on the planet?
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Sure If that's what you wanna call your parents that's on you.

People who thinks Trump's actually a pedephile and Epstein was some elaborate blackmail conspiracy are pretty stupid imo I hate dealing with them it's just qanon pizzagate for the left at this point
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I'm curious which of these statements you think is true, false, likely, or unlikely:

1. Jeffrey epstein was a convicted sex offender and trafficked minors for the purposes of sex.

2. Underage sex workers were a part of Epstein's entourage and present at various functions and parties he hosted.

3. Trump was friends with epstein and attended numerous epstein functions and parties.

4. Trump attended functions and/or parties where sex workers were present, some of whom may have been minors.

5. Trump may have had sex with sex workers.

6. Trump may have had sex with underage sex workers.


I'm asking because you talk as though trump having sex with a minor is preposterous, whereas to me it seems plausible based on public record. I'm curious where our difference of opinion is coming from. I believe 1-3 are true, and 4-6 are likely.
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I'm not here to play 20 questions, discuss anything, be civil, or have a conversation

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Chalupa on March 18, 2026, 12:05:12 PM
^
It’s braindead to ignore all the victims. The likelihood of all the ones who testified in court being liars is 0.1^23, at the highest. Plus, the DoJ has identified 1200+ victims. Simping for pedophile billionaires is pathetic.

Intelligence agencies started “Pizzagate” on 4chan so when actual accusations came out, people would dismiss it as a conspiracy.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: GnarAlarm on March 18, 2026, 12:44:36 PM
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Has anyone  here written off any MAGA family members?  My parents are on the verge of me telling them to fuck off and stay away from me.  I'm pretty much done with anyone that helped enable this mess we are in.
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I have a MAGA uncle, whom I recently hung out with after not seeing for a decade or so. He was my "cool uncle" growing up (used to skate and took me to see Stiff Little Fingers) and my intent going in was to enjoy the company of someone who I disagree with about most things but care about enough to try.

It was fun! We roasted each other all night but a thru-line was found quickly: we both agreed that billionaires are the problem. After that, any talking point was kind of moot when you remove semantics and propaganda. He's retired Air Force so I called him a goddamn socialist for his free healthcare, schooling and housing assistance, saying he secretly voted for Bernie. Kept telling him to be careful not to get infected by my libtard wokeness in case the cure only comes in vaccine form. In jest, he started calling himself my white nationalist uncle and kept offering to take me to see Sammy Hagar. I wonder if Lucero roasts Lance in a similar manner? My uncle is indoctrinated, ageing and comfortable, but I don't see his beliefs coming from a place of hatred. Only fear.

Anyways, I bet (hope) a thru-line can be found with your Rents and I think it's kinda our job to try. Empathy n'stuff.

Hates billionaires.
Votes for billionaire.
Supports party that exists solely to enrich billionaires.
Math ain't mathing.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on March 18, 2026, 01:30:17 PM
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Has anyone  here written off any MAGA family members?  My parents are on the verge of me telling them to fuck off and stay away from me.  I'm pretty much done with anyone that helped enable this mess we are in.
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I have a MAGA uncle, whom I recently hung out with after not seeing for a decade or so. He was my "cool uncle" growing up (used to skate and took me to see Stiff Little Fingers) and my intent going in was to enjoy the company of someone who I disagree with about most things but care about enough to try.

It was fun! We roasted each other all night but a thru-line was found quickly: we both agreed that billionaires are the problem. After that, any talking point was kind of moot when you remove semantics and propaganda. He's retired Air Force so I called him a goddamn socialist for his free healthcare, schooling and housing assistance, saying he secretly voted for Bernie. Kept telling him to be careful not to get infected by my libtard wokeness in case the cure only comes in vaccine form. In jest, he started calling himself my white nationalist uncle and kept offering to take me to see Sammy Hagar. I wonder if Lucero roasts Lance in a similar manner? My uncle is indoctrinated, ageing and comfortable, but I don't see his beliefs coming from a place of hatred. Only fear.

Anyways, I bet (hope) a thru-line can be found with your Rents and I think it's kinda our job to try. Empathy n'stuff.
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Hates billionaires.
Votes for billionaire.
Supports party that exists solely to enrich billionaires.
Math ain't mathing.

Reublicans are statistically some of the most undereducated people, so it makes sense none of their mathing ever maths:

Wants small government, votes for someone who wants to regulate your body, home, school, library, very existence
Wants someone tough on crime, votes for a convict with 34 felonies.
Wants someone who cares about fraud, votes for someone who pardoned those who defrauded the government for BILLIONS
Wants someone who will drain the swamp, votes for someone who makes their family Special Envoy to the middle east before making personal deals with Saudi Arabia which directly affects foreign policy.
Wants someone who is for the military, votes for a draft dodger who calls dead veterans "losers and suckers"
Wants someone who gets things done, votes for someone who hasn't delivered on a single campaign promise.
Wants someone who will protect kids, votes for someone accused of being part of one of biggest international pedophile, child-trafficking rings ever.
Wants someone who will make America healthy again, votes for someone who severely de-regulates FDA, EPA, and other orgs that protect our well-being as well as defunding healthcare.
Wants someone who can tell it like it is, votes for the biggest snowflake who can't stand criticism.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: pop idiot on March 18, 2026, 03:48:08 PM
Math ain't mathing.

Well duh! It's easy to flip old conservative talking points to fit a narrative if I really wanted to point out obvious hypocrisy... as TastyBurrito readily listed off. I wasn't trying to "school him" or convince him of anything, simply wanted to hear that perspective from someone I love, whom I am comfortable being completely honest with and willing to engage.

We were having fun roasting each other tho. He was telling me about his son getting into Reel Big Fish, so I asked if he'd started transitioning yet. Male bonding is so weird!

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on March 18, 2026, 05:26:50 PM
College Republicans at University of Florida was disbanded after members were seen on social media throwing up the Nazi sieg-heil salute. Now they’re suing the university demanding they protect their right to free speech. The same group that wanted people who didn’t speak lovingly of Charlie Kirk fired and/or expelled.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2026/03/16/florida-college-republicans-antisemitic/
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on March 18, 2026, 06:33:25 PM
College Republicans at University of Florida was disbanded after members were seen on social media throwing up the Nazi sieg-heil salute. Now they’re suing the university demanding they protect their right to free speech. The same group that wanted people who didn’t speak lovingly of Charlie Kirk fired and/or expelled.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2026/03/16/florida-college-republicans-antisemitic/

I'm sure the White House will step in because they really have a moral compass that guides their actions they don't just conveniently come up with excuses to punish people they don't like.

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Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on March 18, 2026, 06:47:40 PM
Also of note: Fuck Caesar Chavez
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: The real veganshawn on March 19, 2026, 08:25:33 AM
Also of note: Fuck Caesar Chavez
This one hurts
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Rusty Shackleford on March 19, 2026, 08:53:14 AM
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"I didn't see it. I mean, somebody puts it up. We have alot of people working for us."
anybody else remember the maga mob criticizing Joe for not being in charge, and claiming that other people were actually running the government while he was totally unaware?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on March 19, 2026, 09:28:02 AM
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"I didn't see it. I mean, somebody puts it up. We have alot of people working for us."
anybody else remember the maga mob criticizing Joe for not being in charge, and claiming that other people were actually running the government while he was totally unaware?

First off, in the email he's talking about how these donations are for his campaign fund. What campaign fund? He's on his second term and can't run for shit again.

Secondly, it's sickening how he's constantly politicizing the military (which is supposed to be apolitical) with these photo ops at transfers, at Arlington Cemetery, on actual ships, and at Military Academy graduations and people in the military are okay with it. Biden looked at his watch once after a ceremony and MAGA military members went off talking about his blatant disrespect of soldiers.

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: botefdunn on March 19, 2026, 09:42:58 AM
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"I didn't see it. I mean, somebody puts it up. We have alot of people working for us."
anybody else remember the maga mob criticizing Joe for not being in charge, and claiming that other people were actually running the government while he was totally unaware?
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First off, in the email he's talking about how these donations are for his campaign fund. What campaign fund? He's on his second term and can't run for shit again.


Campaign, crusade, it's an easy mistake to make.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Steely Daniel on March 19, 2026, 09:47:47 AM
You can buy the private national security briefings but hurry supplies are limited.

I used to just try to ignore American politics but I dove in head first the last few months in an unhealthy way and man am I tired.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Emo jimmy on March 19, 2026, 11:03:58 AM
Also of note: Fuck Caesar Chavez
Agreed

Not that theres ever a bad time for getting abusers the fuck outta here and exposed but I question the prioritization of getting a dead one when we got an active one with nuclear codes right now taking the whole country with him to hell
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Jehoshaphat Augustus on March 19, 2026, 11:09:24 AM
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Also of note: Fuck Caesar Chavez
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I question the prioritization of getting a dead one when we got an active one with nuclear codes right now taking the whole country with him to hell
this is the same the active one who said "we're going after the fraudsters" while simultaneously pardoning 14 people convicted of fraud
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: pop idiot on March 19, 2026, 01:59:17 PM
Also of note: Fuck, Caesar Chavez

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: GardenSkater77 on March 20, 2026, 03:51:34 PM
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Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on March 20, 2026, 05:59:57 PM
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Also of note: Fuck Caesar Chavez
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I question the prioritization of getting a dead one when we got an active one with nuclear codes right now taking the whole country with him to hell
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this is the same the active one who said "we're going after the fraudsters" while simultaneously pardoning 14 people convicted of fraud

‘I’m waging war on narcoterrorists.’ Pardons narcoterroist.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on March 20, 2026, 07:55:02 PM
Someone I know asked the question:

What do you think all those military/alpha male dudes who live by the Jocko Willink’s “Extreme Ownership” mentality think of Trump? His actions are the antithesis of that lifestyle that desperately cleave to.

Leadership that doesn’t lead, inspire, or take ownership over his subordinates or their actions.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: S. on March 21, 2026, 12:19:36 AM
Someone I know asked the question:

What do you think all those military/alpha male dudes who live by the Jocko Willink’s “Extreme Ownership” mentality think of Trump? His actions are the antithesis of that lifestyle that desperately cleave to.

Leadership that doesn’t lead, inspire, or take ownership over his subordinates or their actions.

I have asked myself the the same question. Trump has never owned up to a single mistake in his life. It is always everyone else’s mistake. I think it is just another contradiction they are willing to repress. Trump is also a terrible Christian, a terrible husband and extremely corrupt. Still, he’s got the support of conservative Christians and anti-corruption and anti-elite conspiracy theorists.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on March 21, 2026, 12:54:02 AM
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Someone I know asked the question:

What do you think all those military/alpha male dudes who live by the Jocko Willink’s “Extreme Ownership” mentality think of Trump? His actions are the antithesis of that lifestyle that desperately cleave to.

Leadership that doesn’t lead, inspire, or take ownership over his subordinates or their actions.
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I have asked myself the the same question. Trump has never owned up to a single mistake in his life. It is always everyone else’s mistake. I think it is just another contradiction they are willing to repress. Trump is also a terrible Christian, a terrible husband and extremely corrupt. Still, he’s got the support of conservative Christians and anti-corruption and anti-elite conspiracy theorists.

Means justify the ends with them.   He got them what they wanted with Roe V Wade and he might get them what they want for Revelation
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on March 21, 2026, 12:55:55 AM
Any CA voters with opinions on Gov race? 

I saw some Mahan interviews (major of San Jose) and liked what I heard, but have massive concern with his support from Silicon Valley and others I don’t like endorsing him.   

I get a lot of Steyer ads on YouTube.   Seems fine.  See zero Swallwell ads or anyone else
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: brwrxstl on March 21, 2026, 06:06:26 AM
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Has anyone  here written off any MAGA family members?  My parents are on the verge of me telling them to fuck off and stay away from me.  I'm pretty much done with anyone that helped enable this mess we are in.
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I have a MAGA uncle, whom I recently hung out with after not seeing for a decade or so. He was my "cool uncle" growing up (used to skate and took me to see Stiff Little Fingers) and my intent going in was to enjoy the company of someone who I disagree with about most things but care about enough to try.

It was fun! We roasted each other all night but a thru-line was found quickly: we both agreed that billionaires are the problem. After that, any talking point was kind of moot when you remove semantics and propaganda. He's retired Air Force so I called him a goddamn socialist for his free healthcare, schooling and housing assistance, saying he secretly voted for Bernie. Kept telling him to be careful not to get infected by my libtard wokeness in case the cure only comes in vaccine form. In jest, he started calling himself my white nationalist uncle and kept offering to take me to see Sammy Hagar. I wonder if Lucero roasts Lance in a similar manner? My uncle is indoctrinated, ageing and comfortable, but I don't see his beliefs coming from a place of hatred. Only fear.

Anyways, I bet (hope) a thru-line can be found with your Rents and I think it's kinda our job to try. Empathy n'stuff.


"my uncle is indoctrinated"

Leftists who play the whole "it's our job to pity people we disagree with" are some of the most condescending people ever.

Getting healthcare through the military isn't "socialism".  The guy served and earned his healthcare. Socialism is the government replacing enterprise. The military is a necessary branch of government and people who serve aren't doing it to try and overthrow free market healthcare or businesses.

And then to come on here and proclaim that "billionaires are the problem" and using him agreeing with you to assert that as a fact is pathetic.  Billionaires are the problem? OK get off your iphone, get off your computer, pull your router, kill your wifi. You wouldn't even have access to be crying about the system that provides you with everything you have if it wasn't for the people who innovate and come up with these things.

There's a reason all of Venezuela was dancing in the street to the YMCA when we overthrew Maduro. Your socialist pipe dream isn't anything beyond a delusion and there's millions over people living under socialism screaming that from the rooftops but you're too arrogant to listen.

Your uncle never even called you a "woke libtard" you called yourself, you're the one perpetuating this giant schism with him when you're the only one in the relationship who's browbeating (passively aggressively through jokes) the guy for not thinking like you.

But you're right he's the one who's "scared"....


Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on March 21, 2026, 06:19:12 AM
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Has anyone  here written off any MAGA family members?  My parents are on the verge of me telling them to fuck off and stay away from me.  I'm pretty much done with anyone that helped enable this mess we are in.
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I have a MAGA uncle, whom I recently hung out with after not seeing for a decade or so. He was my "cool uncle" growing up (used to skate and took me to see Stiff Little Fingers) and my intent going in was to enjoy the company of someone who I disagree with about most things but care about enough to try.

It was fun! We roasted each other all night but a thru-line was found quickly: we both agreed that billionaires are the problem. After that, any talking point was kind of moot when you remove semantics and propaganda. He's retired Air Force so I called him a goddamn socialist for his free healthcare, schooling and housing assistance, saying he secretly voted for Bernie. Kept telling him to be careful not to get infected by my libtard wokeness in case the cure only comes in vaccine form. In jest, he started calling himself my white nationalist uncle and kept offering to take me to see Sammy Hagar. I wonder if Lucero roasts Lance in a similar manner? My uncle is indoctrinated, ageing and comfortable, but I don't see his beliefs coming from a place of hatred. Only fear.

Anyways, I bet (hope) a thru-line can be found with your Rents and I think it's kinda our job to try. Empathy n'stuff.
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"my uncle is indoctrinated"

Leftists who play the whole "it's our job to pity people we disagree with" are some of the most condescending people ever.

Getting healthcare through the military isn't "socialism".  The guy served and earned his healthcare. Socialism is the government replacing enterprise. The military is a necessary branch of government and people who serve aren't doing it to try and overthrow free market healthcare or businesses.

And then to come on here and proclaim that "billionaires are the problem" and using him agreeing with you to assert that as a fact is pathetic.  Billionaires are the problem? OK get off your iphone, get off your computer, pull your router, kill your wifi. You wouldn't even have access to be crying about the system that provides you with everything you have if it wasn't for the people who innovate and come up with these things.

There's a reason all of Venezuela was dancing in the street to the YMCA when we overthrew Maduro. Your socialist pipe dream isn't anything beyond a delusion and there's millions over people living under socialism screaming that from the rooftops but you're too arrogant to listen.

Your uncle never even called you a "woke libtard" you called yourself, you're the one perpetuating this giant schism with him when you're the only one in the relationship who's browbeating (passively aggressively through jokes) the guy for not thinking like you.

But you're right he's the one who's "scared"....


There’s so many wrong things there, but thinking the military is a branch of government is hilarious.   

We also didnt overthrow Maduro.   We kidnapped/arrested him.  The same government still exists.   

And the government came up with many of those innovations.   Internet, GPS, and so on
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: AnimalChinaski79 on March 21, 2026, 07:54:22 AM
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Has anyone  here written off any MAGA family members?  My parents are on the verge of me telling them to fuck off and stay away from me.  I'm pretty much done with anyone that helped enable this mess we are in.
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I have a MAGA uncle, whom I recently hung out with after not seeing for a decade or so. He was my "cool uncle" growing up (used to skate and took me to see Stiff Little Fingers) and my intent going in was to enjoy the company of someone who I disagree with about most things but care about enough to try.

It was fun! We roasted each other all night but a thru-line was found quickly: we both agreed that billionaires are the problem. After that, any talking point was kind of moot when you remove semantics and propaganda. He's retired Air Force so I called him a goddamn socialist for his free healthcare, schooling and housing assistance, saying he secretly voted for Bernie. Kept telling him to be careful not to get infected by my libtard wokeness in case the cure only comes in vaccine form. In jest, he started calling himself my white nationalist uncle and kept offering to take me to see Sammy Hagar. I wonder if Lucero roasts Lance in a similar manner? My uncle is indoctrinated, ageing and comfortable, but I don't see his beliefs coming from a place of hatred. Only fear.

Anyways, I bet (hope) a thru-line can be found with your Rents and I think it's kinda our job to try. Empathy n'stuff.
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"my uncle is indoctrinated"

Leftists who play the whole "it's our job to pity people we disagree with" are some of the most condescending people ever.

Getting healthcare through the military isn't "socialism".  The guy served and earned his healthcare. Socialism is the government replacing enterprise. The military is a necessary branch of government and people who serve aren't doing it to try and overthrow free market healthcare or businesses.

And then to come on here and proclaim that "billionaires are the problem" and using him agreeing with you to assert that as a fact is pathetic.  Billionaires are the problem? OK get off your iphone, get off your computer, pull your router, kill your wifi. You wouldn't even have access to be crying about the system that provides you with everything you have if it wasn't for the people who innovate and come up with these things.

There's a reason all of Venezuela was dancing in the street to the YMCA when we overthrew Maduro. Your socialist pipe dream isn't anything beyond a delusion and there's millions over people living under socialism screaming that from the rooftops but you're too arrogant to listen.

Your uncle never even called you a "woke libtard" you called yourself, you're the one perpetuating this giant schism with him when you're the only one in the relationship who's browbeating (passively aggressively through jokes) the guy for not thinking like you.

But you're right he's the one who's "scared"....

The military isn't a "branch of government" lol.  You're thinking of the legislative, executive, and judicial.  The rest of your post doesn't isn't a whole lot better, lol. 
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on March 21, 2026, 08:29:18 AM
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Has anyone  here written off any MAGA family members?  My parents are on the verge of me telling them to fuck off and stay away from me.  I'm pretty much done with anyone that helped enable this mess we are in.
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I have a MAGA uncle, whom I recently hung out with after not seeing for a decade or so. He was my "cool uncle" growing up (used to skate and took me to see Stiff Little Fingers) and my intent going in was to enjoy the company of someone who I disagree with about most things but care about enough to try.

It was fun! We roasted each other all night but a thru-line was found quickly: we both agreed that billionaires are the problem. After that, any talking point was kind of moot when you remove semantics and propaganda. He's retired Air Force so I called him a goddamn socialist for his free healthcare, schooling and housing assistance, saying he secretly voted for Bernie. Kept telling him to be careful not to get infected by my libtard wokeness in case the cure only comes in vaccine form. In jest, he started calling himself my white nationalist uncle and kept offering to take me to see Sammy Hagar. I wonder if Lucero roasts Lance in a similar manner? My uncle is indoctrinated, ageing and comfortable, but I don't see his beliefs coming from a place of hatred. Only fear.

Anyways, I bet (hope) a thru-line can be found with your Rents and I think it's kinda our job to try. Empathy n'stuff.
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"my uncle is indoctrinated"

Leftists who play the whole "it's our job to pity people we disagree with" are some of the most condescending people ever.

Getting healthcare through the military isn't "socialism".  The guy served and earned his healthcare. Socialism is the government replacing enterprise. The military is a necessary branch of government and people who serve aren't doing it to try and overthrow free market healthcare or businesses.

And then to come on here and proclaim that "billionaires are the problem" and using him agreeing with you to assert that as a fact is pathetic.  Billionaires are the problem? OK get off your iphone, get off your computer, pull your router, kill your wifi. You wouldn't even have access to be crying about the system that provides you with everything you have if it wasn't for the people who innovate and come up with these things.

There's a reason all of Venezuela was dancing in the street to the YMCA when we overthrew Maduro. Your socialist pipe dream isn't anything beyond a delusion and there's millions over people living under socialism screaming that from the rooftops but you're too arrogant to listen.

Your uncle never even called you a "woke libtard" you called yourself, you're the one perpetuating this giant schism with him when you're the only one in the relationship who's browbeating (passively aggressively through jokes) the guy for not thinking like you.

But you're right he's the one who's "scared"....

I can tell your teachers used to pass your tests back to you upside down.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: alansabitch on March 21, 2026, 09:33:31 AM
Is social security considered socialism?

Why don't we have all old people voting dem for social security and Medicare, and why dont all young people vote repub since young people really don't need that shit

But its the opposite
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: brwrxstl on March 21, 2026, 10:48:55 AM
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Has anyone  here written off any MAGA family members?  My parents are on the verge of me telling them to fuck off and stay away from me.  I'm pretty much done with anyone that helped enable this mess we are in.
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I have a MAGA uncle, whom I recently hung out with after not seeing for a decade or so. He was my "cool uncle" growing up (used to skate and took me to see Stiff Little Fingers) and my intent going in was to enjoy the company of someone who I disagree with about most things but care about enough to try.

It was fun! We roasted each other all night but a thru-line was found quickly: we both agreed that billionaires are the problem. After that, any talking point was kind of moot when you remove semantics and propaganda. He's retired Air Force so I called him a goddamn socialist for his free healthcare, schooling and housing assistance, saying he secretly voted for Bernie. Kept telling him to be careful not to get infected by my libtard wokeness in case the cure only comes in vaccine form. In jest, he started calling himself my white nationalist uncle and kept offering to take me to see Sammy Hagar. I wonder if Lucero roasts Lance in a similar manner? My uncle is indoctrinated, ageing and comfortable, but I don't see his beliefs coming from a place of hatred. Only fear.

Anyways, I bet (hope) a thru-line can be found with your Rents and I think it's kinda our job to try. Empathy n'stuff.
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"my uncle is indoctrinated"

Leftists who play the whole "it's our job to pity people we disagree with" are some of the most condescending people ever.

Getting healthcare through the military isn't "socialism".  The guy served and earned his healthcare. Socialism is the government replacing enterprise. The military is a necessary branch of government and people who serve aren't doing it to try and overthrow free market healthcare or businesses.

And then to come on here and proclaim that "billionaires are the problem" and using him agreeing with you to assert that as a fact is pathetic.  Billionaires are the problem? OK get off your iphone, get off your computer, pull your router, kill your wifi. You wouldn't even have access to be crying about the system that provides you with everything you have if it wasn't for the people who innovate and come up with these things.

There's a reason all of Venezuela was dancing in the street to the YMCA when we overthrew Maduro. Your socialist pipe dream isn't anything beyond a delusion and there's millions over people living under socialism screaming that from the rooftops but you're too arrogant to listen.

Your uncle never even called you a "woke libtard" you called yourself, you're the one perpetuating this giant schism with him when you're the only one in the relationship who's browbeating (passively aggressively through jokes) the guy for not thinking like you.

But you're right he's the one who's "scared"....
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The military isn't a "branch of government" lol.  You're thinking of the legislative, executive, and judicial.  The rest of your post doesn't isn't a whole lot better, lol.

you people are so stupid and the way you reach for anything as a "gotcha" is embarrassing

congratulations you remembered "the three branches" of government from middle school.

i'm using the term loosely and just saying it's ran by the government it's funded by the government it's part of the government but it's an entity in its own


people enlisting and serving and getting benefits therefore after isn't fucking socialism was my point
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: brwrxstl on March 21, 2026, 10:53:49 AM
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Has anyone  here written off any MAGA family members?  My parents are on the verge of me telling them to fuck off and stay away from me.  I'm pretty much done with anyone that helped enable this mess we are in.
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I have a MAGA uncle, whom I recently hung out with after not seeing for a decade or so. He was my "cool uncle" growing up (used to skate and took me to see Stiff Little Fingers) and my intent going in was to enjoy the company of someone who I disagree with about most things but care about enough to try.

It was fun! We roasted each other all night but a thru-line was found quickly: we both agreed that billionaires are the problem. After that, any talking point was kind of moot when you remove semantics and propaganda. He's retired Air Force so I called him a goddamn socialist for his free healthcare, schooling and housing assistance, saying he secretly voted for Bernie. Kept telling him to be careful not to get infected by my libtard wokeness in case the cure only comes in vaccine form. In jest, he started calling himself my white nationalist uncle and kept offering to take me to see Sammy Hagar. I wonder if Lucero roasts Lance in a similar manner? My uncle is indoctrinated, ageing and comfortable, but I don't see his beliefs coming from a place of hatred. Only fear.

Anyways, I bet (hope) a thru-line can be found with your Rents and I think it's kinda our job to try. Empathy n'stuff.
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"my uncle is indoctrinated"

Leftists who play the whole "it's our job to pity people we disagree with" are some of the most condescending people ever.

Getting healthcare through the military isn't "socialism".  The guy served and earned his healthcare. Socialism is the government replacing enterprise. The military is a necessary branch of government and people who serve aren't doing it to try and overthrow free market healthcare or businesses.

And then to come on here and proclaim that "billionaires are the problem" and using him agreeing with you to assert that as a fact is pathetic.  Billionaires are the problem? OK get off your iphone, get off your computer, pull your router, kill your wifi. You wouldn't even have access to be crying about the system that provides you with everything you have if it wasn't for the people who innovate and come up with these things.

There's a reason all of Venezuela was dancing in the street to the YMCA when we overthrew Maduro. Your socialist pipe dream isn't anything beyond a delusion and there's millions over people living under socialism screaming that from the rooftops but you're too arrogant to listen.

Your uncle never even called you a "woke libtard" you called yourself, you're the one perpetuating this giant schism with him when you're the only one in the relationship who's browbeating (passively aggressively through jokes) the guy for not thinking like you.

But you're right he's the one who's "scared"....
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There’s so many wrong things there, but thinking the military is a branch of government is hilarious.   

We also didnt overthrow Maduro.   We kidnapped/arrested him.  The same government still exists.   

And the government came up with many of those innovations.   Internet, GPS, and so on


another middle school graduate clinging to the fact he can remember the "three branches of government"

that wasn't what i was referring to you insipid person
i was using the word branch to separate it from being a controlling entity or socialist benefit package

the military is a branch separate from the government it exists to serve its own purpose and when you enlist in it you being given benefits isn't fucking socialism

and for maduro again more mental gymnastics and more pathetic desperation to mar yourself feel like you have some sorry of moral high ground to perpetuate your angry leftist rage from
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: AnimalChinaski79 on March 21, 2026, 11:01:37 AM
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Has anyone  here written off any MAGA family members?  My parents are on the verge of me telling them to fuck off and stay away from me.  I'm pretty much done with anyone that helped enable this mess we are in.
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I have a MAGA uncle, whom I recently hung out with after not seeing for a decade or so. He was my "cool uncle" growing up (used to skate and took me to see Stiff Little Fingers) and my intent going in was to enjoy the company of someone who I disagree with about most things but care about enough to try.

It was fun! We roasted each other all night but a thru-line was found quickly: we both agreed that billionaires are the problem. After that, any talking point was kind of moot when you remove semantics and propaganda. He's retired Air Force so I called him a goddamn socialist for his free healthcare, schooling and housing assistance, saying he secretly voted for Bernie. Kept telling him to be careful not to get infected by my libtard wokeness in case the cure only comes in vaccine form. In jest, he started calling himself my white nationalist uncle and kept offering to take me to see Sammy Hagar. I wonder if Lucero roasts Lance in a similar manner? My uncle is indoctrinated, ageing and comfortable, but I don't see his beliefs coming from a place of hatred. Only fear.

Anyways, I bet (hope) a thru-line can be found with your Rents and I think it's kinda our job to try. Empathy n'stuff.
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"my uncle is indoctrinated"

Leftists who play the whole "it's our job to pity people we disagree with" are some of the most condescending people ever.

Getting healthcare through the military isn't "socialism".  The guy served and earned his healthcare. Socialism is the government replacing enterprise. The military is a necessary branch of government and people who serve aren't doing it to try and overthrow free market healthcare or businesses.

And then to come on here and proclaim that "billionaires are the problem" and using him agreeing with you to assert that as a fact is pathetic.  Billionaires are the problem? OK get off your iphone, get off your computer, pull your router, kill your wifi. You wouldn't even have access to be crying about the system that provides you with everything you have if it wasn't for the people who innovate and come up with these things.

There's a reason all of Venezuela was dancing in the street to the YMCA when we overthrew Maduro. Your socialist pipe dream isn't anything beyond a delusion and there's millions over people living under socialism screaming that from the rooftops but you're too arrogant to listen.

Your uncle never even called you a "woke libtard" you called yourself, you're the one perpetuating this giant schism with him when you're the only one in the relationship who's browbeating (passively aggressively through jokes) the guy for not thinking like you.

But you're right he's the one who's "scared"....
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There’s so many wrong things there, but thinking the military is a branch of government is hilarious.   

We also didnt overthrow Maduro.   We kidnapped/arrested him.  The same government still exists.   

And the government came up with many of those innovations.   Internet, GPS, and so on
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another middle school graduate clinging to the fact he can remember the "three branches of government"

that wasn't what i was referring to you insipid person
i was using the word branch to separate it from being a controlling entity or socialist benefit package

the military is a branch separate from the government it exists to serve its own purpose and when you enlist in it you being given benefits isn't fucking socialism

and for maduro again more mental gymnastics and more pathetic desperation to mar yourself feel like you have some sorry of moral high ground to perpetuate your angry leftist rage from

You're the one sounding angry to be honest.  Try decaf.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: GardenSkater77 on March 21, 2026, 12:22:13 PM
From this week…

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Wiped from the internet.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Chalupa on March 21, 2026, 01:21:48 PM
From this week…

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Wiped from the internet.
What’s up with presidents grabbing ass?

George H.W. Bush did that shit too.
https://www.newscentermaine.com/article/news/local/fourth-woman-accuses-president-george-hw-bush-of-groping-in-photo-op/97-486622947
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on March 21, 2026, 01:23:11 PM
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Has anyone  here written off any MAGA family members?  My parents are on the verge of me telling them to fuck off and stay away from me.  I'm pretty much done with anyone that helped enable this mess we are in.
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I have a MAGA uncle, whom I recently hung out with after not seeing for a decade or so. He was my "cool uncle" growing up (used to skate and took me to see Stiff Little Fingers) and my intent going in was to enjoy the company of someone who I disagree with about most things but care about enough to try.

It was fun! We roasted each other all night but a thru-line was found quickly: we both agreed that billionaires are the problem. After that, any talking point was kind of moot when you remove semantics and propaganda. He's retired Air Force so I called him a goddamn socialist for his free healthcare, schooling and housing assistance, saying he secretly voted for Bernie. Kept telling him to be careful not to get infected by my libtard wokeness in case the cure only comes in vaccine form. In jest, he started calling himself my white nationalist uncle and kept offering to take me to see Sammy Hagar. I wonder if Lucero roasts Lance in a similar manner? My uncle is indoctrinated, ageing and comfortable, but I don't see his beliefs coming from a place of hatred. Only fear.

Anyways, I bet (hope) a thru-line can be found with your Rents and I think it's kinda our job to try. Empathy n'stuff.
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"my uncle is indoctrinated"

Leftists who play the whole "it's our job to pity people we disagree with" are some of the most condescending people ever.

Getting healthcare through the military isn't "socialism".  The guy served and earned his healthcare. Socialism is the government replacing enterprise. The military is a necessary branch of government and people who serve aren't doing it to try and overthrow free market healthcare or businesses.

And then to come on here and proclaim that "billionaires are the problem" and using him agreeing with you to assert that as a fact is pathetic.  Billionaires are the problem? OK get off your iphone, get off your computer, pull your router, kill your wifi. You wouldn't even have access to be crying about the system that provides you with everything you have if it wasn't for the people who innovate and come up with these things.

There's a reason all of Venezuela was dancing in the street to the YMCA when we overthrew Maduro. Your socialist pipe dream isn't anything beyond a delusion and there's millions over people living under socialism screaming that from the rooftops but you're too arrogant to listen.

Your uncle never even called you a "woke libtard" you called yourself, you're the one perpetuating this giant schism with him when you're the only one in the relationship who's browbeating (passively aggressively through jokes) the guy for not thinking like you.

But you're right he's the one who's "scared"....
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There’s so many wrong things there, but thinking the military is a branch of government is hilarious.   

We also didnt overthrow Maduro.   We kidnapped/arrested him.  The same government still exists.   

And the government came up with many of those innovations.   Internet, GPS, and so on
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another middle school graduate clinging to the fact he can remember the "three branches of government"

that wasn't what i was referring to you insipid person
i was using the word branch to separate it from being a controlling entity or socialist benefit package

the military is a branch separate from the government it exists to serve its own purpose and when you enlist in it you being given benefits isn't fucking socialism

and for maduro again more mental gymnastics and more pathetic desperation to mar yourself feel like you have some sorry of moral high ground to perpetuate your angry leftist rage from

What are the mental gymnastics?

My leftist rage is that no one has done more to destroy America’s standing in the world than Trump.   He’s eliminated all our soft power programs around the world, made America inhospitable to immigrants who might previously would have come to attend our colleges and universities (brain drain), disrupted the world economy through nonsense tariffs to the point where our allies have figured out ways to strike deals around the world that cut us out, and most recently started bombing Iran which caused the most obvious repercussion with closing the strait of Hormuz which has affected oil and fertilizer around the world which means many countries like Laos has citizens who can’t afford the rise in gas prices and therefore can’t do ther jobs which bring them money to live on all because of a war no one in 40 years besides Bibi thought was a good idea.   Oh but at least we’ve lifted sanctions on Russian and Iranian oil as a result which fucks Ukraine hard and makes both antagonistic countries a lot of money at the moment and that many people in other countries are racing to buy electric cars, but they sure as shit aren’t buying American made ones.   

This isn’t even getting at the massive corruption that Trump and his cronies engage in which is just as bad because it’s guided America to this massive compromise of its present and future
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on March 21, 2026, 01:24:25 PM
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From this week…

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Wiped from the internet.
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What’s up with presidents grabbing ass?

George H.W. Bush did that shit too.
https://www.newscentermaine.com/article/news/local/fourth-woman-accuses-president-george-hw-bush-of-groping-in-photo-op/97-486622947

Not to mention his David Cop-a-feel joke to his nurses
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: botefdunn on March 21, 2026, 02:07:11 PM
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Has anyone  here written off any MAGA family members?  My parents are on the verge of me telling them to fuck off and stay away from me.  I'm pretty much done with anyone that helped enable this mess we are in.
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I have a MAGA uncle, whom I recently hung out with after not seeing for a decade or so. He was my "cool uncle" growing up (used to skate and took me to see Stiff Little Fingers) and my intent going in was to enjoy the company of someone who I disagree with about most things but care about enough to try.

It was fun! We roasted each other all night but a thru-line was found quickly: we both agreed that billionaires are the problem. After that, any talking point was kind of moot when you remove semantics and propaganda. He's retired Air Force so I called him a goddamn socialist for his free healthcare, schooling and housing assistance, saying he secretly voted for Bernie. Kept telling him to be careful not to get infected by my libtard wokeness in case the cure only comes in vaccine form. In jest, he started calling himself my white nationalist uncle and kept offering to take me to see Sammy Hagar. I wonder if Lucero roasts Lance in a similar manner? My uncle is indoctrinated, ageing and comfortable, but I don't see his beliefs coming from a place of hatred. Only fear.

Anyways, I bet (hope) a thru-line can be found with your Rents and I think it's kinda our job to try. Empathy n'stuff.
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"my uncle is indoctrinated"

Leftists who play the whole "it's our job to pity people we disagree with" are some of the most condescending people ever.

Getting healthcare through the military isn't "socialism".  The guy served and earned his healthcare. Socialism is the government replacing enterprise. The military is a necessary branch of government and people who serve aren't doing it to try and overthrow free market healthcare or businesses.

And then to come on here and proclaim that "billionaires are the problem" and using him agreeing with you to assert that as a fact is pathetic.  Billionaires are the problem? OK get off your iphone, get off your computer, pull your router, kill your wifi. You wouldn't even have access to be crying about the system that provides you with everything you have if it wasn't for the people who innovate and come up with these things.

There's a reason all of Venezuela was dancing in the street to the YMCA when we overthrew Maduro. Your socialist pipe dream isn't anything beyond a delusion and there's millions over people living under socialism screaming that from the rooftops but you're too arrogant to listen.

Your uncle never even called you a "woke libtard" you called yourself, you're the one perpetuating this giant schism with him when you're the only one in the relationship who's browbeating (passively aggressively through jokes) the guy for not thinking like you.

But you're right he's the one who's "scared"....
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The military isn't a "branch of government" lol.  You're thinking of the legislative, executive, and judicial.  The rest of your post doesn't isn't a whole lot better, lol.
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you people are so stupid and the way you reach for anything as a "gotcha" is embarrassing

congratulations you remembered "the three branches" of government from middle school.

i'm using the term loosely and just saying it's ran by the government it's funded by the government it's part of the government but it's an entity in its own


people enlisting and serving and getting benefits therefore after isn't fucking socialism was my point

I'm not reaching for a gotcha moment, genuinely asking you to considere the following: military are paid for their servicr, correct? So using tax dollars to subsidize their healthcare is in fact a form of socialism, socialism not being a bogeyman "gotcha" thing, just a word that describe pilitical decisions that take the greater good of a society into consideration when administering its funds. The oppisite would be a politucal system where the sole concern is maintaining the system by which each person can make money and pay taxes, more or less. So again, military are paid the same as anyone else and could choose as individuals to allocate funds to healthcare, but there is an administrative provision made for them at a government level. Personally, I think this is good, because as individuals we can plan for oyrselves, but as a group it's nice to have safety nets so you don't have to watch yourself or your neighbours slip through the cracks so to speak.
The other thing, again, not tryna "gotcha", just respnding to the point you raised: not one billionaire inventrd any of the tech innovations yyou mentioned. In most cades, innovations comefrom the middle.class, people working in labs or factories with backgrounds in engineering or hard science, not management or business admin type positions. Most of the tme, billionaires buy smaller companies, the typical "start up" scheme, and fold them into their companies, thereby redirecting the money generated towards themselves. I'm not saying this doesn't generate wealth for other parts of society, which I think is your point, just saying that the billiinaires themselves are not generated the advances in tech, just consistently rolling them into their portfolios. I personally think that there are other, better ways to distribute wealth, since my values tend toward rewarding the actual work rather than the managerial class, but that's another conversation and I won't assume your positions on that.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on March 21, 2026, 02:18:57 PM
I don't think Trent or Jesse would be impressed by any of these arguments. Trent wasn't all that bright, but even he would know that these are emotional and superficially ideological arguments rather than one's built on any sort of understanding of the political-economy.

Socialism and capitalism do not operate as simple binaries. They are on a spectrum. America's economy while leaning into the capitalist side of the spectrum, retains many socialist aspects.

The military is a good example of one of these socialist aspects. The government's broad interjection of money into the economy and support of individuals is very far from what any sort of pure capitalist would want. I feel your issue here is not one about the actual workings of the military, but instead, the idea the military is loved by conservatives, so it must be anti-socialism in every and any aspect. Similar to how the NFL is great at presenting itself for conservative tastes, but under the surface it has unions, shares television revenue, limits salaries, and makes sure the weaker teams get first pick at the draft (worst team gets first pick). All things those who want a more socialist political economy would be in favor of and "capitalist" would be against.

If you want a purely capitalist military, I suggest looking at the private firms like Blackwater (who renamed themselves Academi and is part of Constellis) to see how they operate. A purely capitalist form of military would be very unlikely to offer lifetime healthcare and a real pension plan. And any executive would certainly get a chuckle out of the idea that someone is owed a lifetime benefit for "serving their country." They wouldn't give a fuck about nationalistic ideas of serving a country. Instead, the soldiers would likely get a 401K and be told to "figure it out" once they no longer had a job. Just like most other private jobs in America.

Your billionaire argument is also weak. Alan Turing's government funded work and the American military's ENIAC, DARPA work played a big role in developing the computer. As did ARAPANET in the development of the internet. GPS was developed by the Department of Defense. And, CSIRO (Aussie government) helped create WiFi. Private companies certainly did a great job moving this into mass production, but lol, thanking my billionaires, calm down Pam.

Not to mention this argument assumes important innovations  = wealth beyond anyone's wildest dreams. Tesla, the guy who vulcanized rubber for tires, Babbit invented the circular saw and many others didn't benefit from their inventions or discoveries that changed society. And, even more direct to your wifi point, Hertz discovered electromagnet waves and never tried to make himself rich. It seems to me, he just liked science.
 
Finally, this fails to separate the benefit of an invention or a service and the distortion of power and democracy when a few people hold massive amounts of wealth. It isn't being upset with the service or the invention, but the concentrated power and wealth some people are allowed to hold. John Locke (huge advocate for private property and whose ideas helped justify taking lands from Native Americans) said:

“Nor was this appropriation of any parcel of land, by improving it, any prejudice to any other man; since there was still enough, and as good left; and more than the yet unprovided could use. So that, in effect, there was never the less left for others because of his enclosure for himself: for he that leaves as much as another can make use of, does as good as take nothing at all. Nobody could think himself injured by the drinking of another man, though he took a good draught, who had a whole river of the same water left him to quench his thirst: and the case of land and water, where there is enough of both, is perfectly the same, at least where there is enough, and as good, left in common for others.

Locke's point here being that private property is cool, as long as there is enough left over for others. With the mass concentration of wealth in a society where people in America are without homes, food, healthcare, even Locke might say, "Well, shit. Maybe there isn't enough left over for the commons and we need to do something here. This isn't good for society. This is not holding true to the ideas I put forward in my work."

Yes, Venezuela is a great example of socialism.  :o Let's bring them into the picture rather than Denmark, Norway, Finland, or places that obviously have a high quality of life. Let's ignore that China who is "communist" is also the biggest fear of most Americans and the second most powerful country on the planet. An equal argument would be "South Sudan and Burundi are capitalist nightmares, all capitalist ideas are terrible."

Honestly, these superficial but loud arguments are annoying. They are more emotional than based in reasoning or any sort of grounding in an understanding of economics or political theory.

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Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: alansabitch on March 21, 2026, 04:06:00 PM
Billionaires>broke bois
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Emo jimmy on March 21, 2026, 09:21:54 PM
Billionaires>broke bois
Get your freak on elsewhere melania
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Chalupa on March 22, 2026, 08:33:49 AM
USPS might stop deliveries by 2027.

https://www.npr.org/2026/03/17/nx-s1-5750419/usps-running-out-of-money-postal-service-david-steiner
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Emo jimmy on March 22, 2026, 11:42:07 AM
Ice at airports starting monday

Because you know those illegal immigrants just stay flying wherever with no documentation, makes total fucking sense
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on March 22, 2026, 01:48:35 PM
Ice at airports starting monday

Because you know those illegal immigrants just stay flying wherever with no documentation, makes total fucking sense

Ted Cruz just suggested to do what the Democrats have been putting forward for weeks and MAGA has been voting down — TO SEPERATE ICE FROM DHS FUNDING BILL.

And he’s doing this to the applause of the GOP. Fucking Christ. Talk about performative action.

https://thehill.com/homenews/5794991-cruz-immigration-funding-split-proposal/
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on March 22, 2026, 03:00:04 PM
Ice at airports starting monday

Because you know those illegal immigrants just stay flying wherever with no documentation, makes total fucking sense

Not that I agree with the move, but it’s because there are TSA staffing issues at airports because of the partial government shutdown
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on March 22, 2026, 03:35:08 PM
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Not that I agree with the move, but it’s because there are TSA staffing issues at airports because of the partial government shutdown

ICE will 100% not supplement TSA or do their job. Tom Hooman even announced that earlier today (https://thehill.com/policy/transportation/5795316-homan-ice-tsa-plan-dhs-shutdown/). They will for sure pull all the brown people out the lines, harrass them, and detain them making them miss their flights.
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Post by: Painted Baby on March 22, 2026, 03:43:55 PM
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Not that I agree with the move, but it’s because there are TSA staffing issues at airports because of the partial government shutdown
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ICE will 100% not supplement TSA or do their job. Tom Hooman even announced that earlier today (https://thehill.com/policy/transportation/5795316-homan-ice-tsa-plan-dhs-shutdown/). They will for sure pull all the brown people out the lines, harrass them, and detain them making them miss their flights.
I'm sure turning already backed up airports into worse shitshows similar to what they did on the streets of US cities will absolutely work out for them and get ICE funded lickety split. The mid leading the mid and they can't think a single idea through to it's logical conclusion. See Iran for another recent example.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on March 22, 2026, 04:27:52 PM
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Because you know those illegal immigrants just stay flying wherever with no documentation, makes total fucking sense
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Not that I agree with the move, but it’s because there are TSA staffing issues at airports because of the partial government shutdown
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ICE will 100% not supplement TSA or do their job. Tom Hooman even announced that earlier today (https://thehill.com/policy/transportation/5795316-homan-ice-tsa-plan-dhs-shutdown/). They will for sure pull all the brown people out the lines, harrass them, and detain them making them miss their flights.
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I'm sure turning already backed up airports into worse shitshows similar to what they did on the streets of US cities will absolutely work out for them and get ICE funded lickety split. The mid leading the mid and they can't think a single idea through to it's logical conclusion. See Iran for another recent example.

MAGA’s M.O. is break things that work, create unnecessary problems, then blame Democrats for their mess.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: GardenSkater77 on March 23, 2026, 05:36:04 AM
Here is another news story that none of the major outlets are picking up. There is talk that the aircraft carrier that caught fire was set fire on purpose as a way to force return to port. They had been out to sea 5 months past their scheduled return and their toilets were full. 4 billion dollar floating port-a-potty.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/did-exhausted-sailors-set-fire-to-uss-gerald-r-ford/ar-AA1Z4myA?cvid=69bdd5c3438a40e392bc780e782d9dc4&ocid=mailsignout
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Billy Bitchcakes on March 23, 2026, 08:44:13 AM
And then to come on here and proclaim that "billionaires are the problem" and using him agreeing with you to assert that as a fact is pathetic.  Billionaires are the problem? OK get off your iphone, get off your computer, pull your router, kill your wifi. You wouldn't even have access to be crying about the system that provides you with everything you have if it wasn't for the people who innovate and come up with these things.

I wouldn't be calling other people stupid when you're saying shit like this
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: pop idiot on March 23, 2026, 12:51:41 PM
"my uncle is indoctrinated"

Leftists who play the whole "it's our job to pity people we disagree with" are some of the most condescending people ever.

Getting healthcare through the military isn't "socialism".  The guy served and earned his healthcare. Socialism is the government replacing enterprise. The military is a necessary branch of government and people who serve aren't doing it to try and overthrow free market healthcare or businesses.

And then to come on here and proclaim that "billionaires are the problem" and using him agreeing with you to assert that as a fact is pathetic.  Billionaires are the problem? OK get off your iphone, get off your computer, pull your router, kill your wifi. You wouldn't even have access to be crying about the system that provides you with everything you have if it wasn't for the people who innovate and come up with these things.

There's a reason all of Venezuela was dancing in the street to the YMCA when we overthrew Maduro. Your socialist pipe dream isn't anything beyond a delusion and there's millions over people living under socialism screaming that from the rooftops but you're too arrogant to listen.

Your uncle never even called you a "woke libtard" you called yourself, you're the one perpetuating this giant schism with him when you're the only one in the relationship who's browbeating (passively aggressively through jokes) the guy for not thinking like you.

But you're right he's the one who's "scared"....

I don't pity my uncle tho. There wasn't any giant schism and that was kinda my point. He laughed at me calling him a socialist but also said "damn, I never thought about it that way" because, duh. Government subsidy allowed him to go to school and buy a home for his family. I ain't mad at that. He served his country under men who didn't and thankfully came home not too traumatised. He deserves his subsidy. That term didn't trigger him, nor does "woke libtard" trigger me (sleepy neocon might be triggersome tho :P). We had fun. We got completely trashed and I hope we do it again before another decade passes.

Your billionaire comment was cringy tho. Remember that old move It's A Wonderful Life? Mr. Potter wasn't the hero...


Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: alien porkchop on March 23, 2026, 02:01:20 PM
helped the homie with some proof reading and editing and he got the article published!

https://religiondispatches.org/2026/03/23/linking-war-iran-end-times-netanyahus-rational-actor-mask-has-fallen
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Chalupa on March 23, 2026, 02:43:33 PM
helped the homie with some proof reading and editing and he got the article published!

https://religiondispatches.org/2026/03/23/linking-war-iran-end-times-netanyahus-rational-actor-mask-has-fallen
Good article that summarizes weeks of articles that I’ve read. I’m going to subscribe to his Substack.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: alien porkchop on March 23, 2026, 04:51:18 PM
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helped the homie with some proof reading and editing and he got the article published!

https://religiondispatches.org/2026/03/23/linking-war-iran-end-times-netanyahus-rational-actor-mask-has-fallen
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Good article that summarizes weeks of articles that I’ve read. I’m going to subscribe to his Substack.

his substack sometimes:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ecRytTfWL8Q&t=2s&pp=2AECkAIB
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on March 23, 2026, 06:19:40 PM
I love that we are country that needs more and more power, but we decided not only to say no to green energy sources, but refund people who already pay us to build energy.

Not to mention water issues, all of our reservoirs should be covered in solar panels for free energy and to prevent some evaporation.

But, America makes money when oil prices are high, right? This is good for us?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on March 23, 2026, 08:23:54 PM
I love that we are country that needs more and more power, but we decided not only to say no to green energy sources, but refund people who already pay us to build energy.

Not to mention water issues, all of our reservoirs should be covered in solar panels for free energy and to prevent some evaporation.

But, America makes money when oil prices are high, right? This is good for us?


This is the country where this idiot’s two biggest donors were the oil industry and the electric car guy. 

Still can’t make sense of it.   Get a guy elected to gut the federal agencies that are investigating you only for that guy to then do everything he can to destroy the market for non-combustible engines in America and start a bunch of wars for oil that make everyone flock to cheap electric cars made by other countries.   I’m sure he thought the worst that would happen is his competitors leaving the marketplace like Honda scrapping their EV line and he would remain untouched
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on March 24, 2026, 12:31:04 PM
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I love that we are country that needs more and more power, but we decided not only to say no to green energy sources, but refund people who already pay us to build energy.

Not to mention water issues, all of our reservoirs should be covered in solar panels for free energy and to prevent some evaporation.

But, America makes money when oil prices are high, right? This is good for us?
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This is the country where this idiot’s two biggest donors were the oil industry and the electric car guy. 

Still can’t make sense of it.   Get a guy elected to gut the federal agencies that are investigating you only for that guy to then do everything he can to destroy the market for non-combustible engines in America and start a bunch of wars for oil that make everyone flock to cheap electric cars made by other countries.   I’m sure he thought the worst that would happen is his competitors leaving the marketplace like Honda scrapping their EV line and he would remain untouched
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Other countries make good electric cars. The American car industry is a dinosaur with one foot in the grave.


I get that - just don’t understand the thinking from the Tesla CEO to support the guy who was looking to kill the industry and salt the earth
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Chalupa on March 24, 2026, 12:45:07 PM
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I love that we are country that needs more and more power, but we decided not only to say no to green energy sources, but refund people who already pay us to build energy.

Not to mention water issues, all of our reservoirs should be covered in solar panels for free energy and to prevent some evaporation.

But, America makes money when oil prices are high, right? This is good for us?
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This is the country where this idiot’s two biggest donors were the oil industry and the electric car guy. 

Still can’t make sense of it.   Get a guy elected to gut the federal agencies that are investigating you only for that guy to then do everything he can to destroy the market for non-combustible engines in America and start a bunch of wars for oil that make everyone flock to cheap electric cars made by other countries.   I’m sure he thought the worst that would happen is his competitors leaving the marketplace like Honda scrapping their EV line and he would remain untouched
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Other countries make good electric cars. The American car industry is a dinosaur with one foot in the grave.
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I get that - just don’t understand the thinking from the Tesla CEO to support the guy who was looking to kill the industry and salt the earth
He got rid of the investigations, got more subsidies from the government, and got MAGA supporters to buy his cars in blue states that offer tax rebates on EV purchases. Billionaires, at a certain point, will continue making money no matter what they do just because they’re invested in so many sectors.

Additionally, he probably knew that the Epstein Files would go public, and switched to vocally being MAGA. When people go MAGA and claim Christianity, it absolves them of any shitty behavior. Also, Trump is always doing fried shit, so it takes the heat off him if there’s any backlash in the media. People probably already forgot that Musk tried to invite himself to Epstein’s island, but even Epstein thought he was lame.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: alien porkchop on March 24, 2026, 01:08:24 PM
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I love that we are country that needs more and more power, but we decided not only to say no to green energy sources, but refund people who already pay us to build energy.

Not to mention water issues, all of our reservoirs should be covered in solar panels for free energy and to prevent some evaporation.

But, America makes money when oil prices are high, right? This is good for us?
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This is the country where this idiot’s two biggest donors were the oil industry and the electric car guy. 

Still can’t make sense of it.   Get a guy elected to gut the federal agencies that are investigating you only for that guy to then do everything he can to destroy the market for non-combustible engines in America and start a bunch of wars for oil that make everyone flock to cheap electric cars made by other countries.   I’m sure he thought the worst that would happen is his competitors leaving the marketplace like Honda scrapping their EV line and he would remain untouched
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Other countries make good electric cars. The American car industry is a dinosaur with one foot in the grave.
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I get that - just don’t understand the thinking from the Tesla CEO to support the guy who was looking to kill the industry and salt the earth
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He got rid of the investigations, got more subsidies from the government, and got MAGA supporters to buy his cars in blue states that offer tax rebates on EV purchases. Billionaires, at a certain point, will continue making money no matter what they do just because they’re invested in so many sectors.

Additionally, he probably knew that the Epstein Files would go public, and switched to vocally being MAGA. When people go MAGA and claim Christianity, it absolves them of any shitty behavior. Also, Trump is always doing fried shit, so it takes the heat off him if there’s any backlash in the media. People probably already forgot that Musk tried to invite himself to Epstein’s island, but even Epstein thought he was lame.

EVs are one thing, but deepening the contractual relationship that space x has with the government is a whole other incentive.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Painted Baby on March 24, 2026, 01:23:46 PM
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helped the homie with some proof reading and editing and he got the article published!

https://religiondispatches.org/2026/03/23/linking-war-iran-end-times-netanyahus-rational-actor-mask-has-fallen
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Good article that summarizes weeks of articles that I’ve read. I’m going to subscribe to his Substack.
Really helpful frame of reference. The coverage I see has utterly failed to fill in the gap between the rational actor version we were sold by neoliberalism and the vicious, manipulative super creep he was on his recent US podcast tour. Obviously his actions have always been deplorable and he's a war criminal evading justice at this point but I needed some religious framing to understand the current mask-off version.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on March 24, 2026, 02:23:18 PM
Really tired of the dump and pump and dump schemes. This makes the insider trading from congressmen and women look quaint.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cg547ljepvzo
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Rusty Shackleford on March 24, 2026, 07:16:12 PM
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THE TRUMPS ALL VOTED BY MAIL
hey hold up I thought he said mail in voting was fraudulent
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: AnimalChinaski79 on March 25, 2026, 02:48:59 AM
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THE TRUMPS ALL VOTED BY MAIL
hey hold up I thought he said mail in voting was fraudulent

Love it!

Still have a strong feeling he will do everything he can to fuck with the midterms.  Hope he dies by then.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on March 25, 2026, 07:46:44 AM
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THE TRUMPS ALL VOTED BY MAIL
hey hold up I thought he said mail in voting was fraudulent
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Love it!

Still have a strong feeling he will do everything he can to fuck with the midterms.  Hope he dies by then.

The way the universe is working, we’re gonna see Trump live to 100 and we’ll see the deaths of Keanu Reeves, Liam Neeson, and Tony Hawk in the next few months.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on March 25, 2026, 12:54:12 PM
Any guesses on what the ‘gift’ from Iran was?
 I’m guessing it’s us lifting sanctions on Iranian and Russian oil and being spun as a ‘gift’ to lower gas/fertilizer prices when, in reality, it’s us getting fucked while sparing the snowflakes feelings since he’s completely fucked in this.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Painted Baby on March 25, 2026, 01:14:20 PM
Any guesses on what the ‘gift’ from Iran was?
 I’m guessing it’s us lifting sanctions on Iranian and Russian oil and being spun as a ‘gift’ to lower gas/fertilizer prices when, in reality, it’s us getting fucked while sparing the snowflakes feelings since he’s completely fucked in this.
The story I head was that a tanker may or not have gotten through but the not part was pretty much confirmed by someone from the company that operates the tanker. Similar story to when Energy Secretary Chris Wright claimed a tanker had gotten through with a US Navy escort which also turned out not to be true. Playing the hits.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on March 25, 2026, 01:19:27 PM
Any guesses on what the ‘gift’ from Iran was?
 I’m guessing it’s us lifting sanctions on Iranian and Russian oil and being spun as a ‘gift’ to lower gas/fertilizer prices when, in reality, it’s us getting fucked while sparing the snowflakes feelings since he’s completely fucked in this.

It's probably something that Trump will keep then donate to his library like the plane from Qatar.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on March 25, 2026, 01:21:49 PM
Only days ago was Trump touting a 15-point plan to negotiate peace with Iran. Today, the White House Press vehemently denies the existence of such a plan: https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-iran-ceasefire-plan-denial-b2945693.html

Talk about losing credibility with foreign nations. This gives zero reason for any country to come to the table with Trump. He says things out of his ass then doesn't follow through.

It's going to take years for the US to earn respect from other nations again.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Chalupa on March 25, 2026, 02:20:42 PM
Only days ago was Trump touting a 15-point plan to negotiate peace with Iran. Today, the White House Press vehemently denies the existence of such a plan: https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-iran-ceasefire-plan-denial-b2945693.html

Talk about losing credibility with foreign nations. This gives zero reason for any country to come to the table with Trump. He says things out of his ass then doesn't follow through.

It's going to take years for the US to earn respect from other nations again.
Trump set a precedent for backing out of treaties and agreements. It makes little to no sense for countries to negotiate when policy can flip flop every 4-8 years, depending on who is in the White House.

The Biden administration tried to renegotiate a nuclear deal with Iran but they were rightfully weary about Trump coming back into office.

On top of that, negotiations from America don’t mean shit. They were in the middle of negotiations with Iran who was willing to agree to the conditions, until the United States of Israel started bombing them, with the negotiator being one of the first people to be killed. Most non-NATO countries recognize that USA is two-faced and doesn’t really give a shit about peace.

If Trump didn’t pull out of the nuclear deal in his first administration, none of this shit would have happened because Israel wouldn’t have any bullshit reason that the west could support.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: ungzilla on March 25, 2026, 02:35:50 PM
unofficial spokesman/well connected iranian professor marandi says it was a fake gucci bag

pretty decent troll even if not tru, but also probably more likely to be tru than anything out of trump world
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on March 25, 2026, 02:46:21 PM
US Treasury deems the nation insolvent.

Who know electing a president who is known for bankrupting 11 businesses — INCLUDING A CASINO — would add $12 Trillion+ to the deficit without any plan to fix the budget and/or economy.

It's not like a bunch of Nobel Laureates warned us...

https://fortune.com/2026/03/23/us-government-insolvent-fiscal-crisis-fix/
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on March 25, 2026, 03:29:04 PM
US Treasury deems the nation insolvent.

Who know electing a president who is known for bankrupting 11 businesses — INCLUDING A CASINO — would add $12 Trillion+ to the deficit without any plan to fix the budget and/or economy.

It's not like a bunch of Nobel Laureates warned us...

https://fortune.com/2026/03/23/us-government-insolvent-fiscal-crisis-fix/

Or the Simpsons movie
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: ungzilla on March 25, 2026, 05:40:38 PM
that article written by two deficit hawks from ALEC aligned scare monger group

the US cannot go bankrupt anymore than a football game can run out of points

read stephanie kelton not these two kooks
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: AnimalChinaski79 on March 26, 2026, 03:07:09 AM
unofficial spokesman/well connected iranian professor marandi says it was a fake gucci bag

pretty decent troll even if not tru, but also probably more likely to be tru than anything out of trump world

I watched a interview recently with that dude and he shredded the reporter interviewing him for pushing pro israel bullshit.  it was pretty great.  If I could find the link I'd post it.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on March 26, 2026, 07:34:35 AM
For the party that constantly lambastes participation trophies because it creates weak men, they sure love giving Trump participation trophies. 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-republican-fundraiser-speech-award-b2945851.html
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on March 27, 2026, 09:27:59 AM
TSA is finally getting paid. Hope people see that the payment is coming to them via the $10B discretionary fund allocated to DHS in the 2025 Big Beautiful Bill. Hope people also see that $10B is more than enough to fund TSA for a year. Hope people now see that this means Trump and Republicans could've been paying TSA this whole time but didn't because hurting workers was their leverage to get what they want and now they lost their leverage, they're now just hoping to come off as heroes.

https://apnews.com/article/airport-delays-wait-times-shutdown-congress-tsa-b419e989a22dbc028d01cbd892fadb40
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on March 27, 2026, 09:48:39 AM
TSA is finally getting paid. Hope people see that the payment is coming to them via the $10B discretionary fund allocated to DHS in the 2025 Big Beautiful Bill. Hope people also see that $10B is more than enough to fund TSA for a year. Hope people now see that this means Trump and Republicans could've been paying TSA this whole time but didn't because hurting workers was their leverage to get what they want and now they lost their leverage, they're now just hoping to come off as heroes.

https://apnews.com/article/airport-delays-wait-times-shutdown-congress-tsa-b419e989a22dbc028d01cbd892fadb40



Paid in dollars that will have Trumps signature on the
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on March 27, 2026, 10:33:23 AM
Secretary of War, Pete Hegseth, removed two women and two black Army officers from the promotions list. Reports are claiming his motivations are unclear, but ask yourself, "why would a misogynist white Christian Nationalist remove women and black people from a well deserved role!?"

Also, under the military's "Up or Out" policy, this move just basically ended the 20+ year military careers of those four individuals. And this is NOT the first time he's ended careers in an abrupt and unceremonious way.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/hegseth-military-promotion-list-removed-b2947020.html
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Chalupa on March 27, 2026, 03:33:27 PM
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TSA is finally getting paid. Hope people see that the payment is coming to them via the $10B discretionary fund allocated to DHS in the 2025 Big Beautiful Bill. Hope people also see that $10B is more than enough to fund TSA for a year. Hope people now see that this means Trump and Republicans could've been paying TSA this whole time but didn't because hurting workers was their leverage to get what they want and now they lost their leverage, they're now just hoping to come off as heroes.

https://apnews.com/article/airport-delays-wait-times-shutdown-congress-tsa-b419e989a22dbc028d01cbd892fadb40
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Paid in dollars that will have Trumps signature on the
I can’t remember if it was on the previous page, but the goal is to ruin TSA to replace it with a security company owned by one of Trump’s lackeys. One of the goals of Project 2025 was to privatize TSA.

They ruined USPS so we will have to use FedEx/UPS to mail letters which will be more expensive. Rural communities will lose their access to mail, including medication delivery.

When TSA gets replaced, we’ll have idiots pulling the majority of people to the side to pat down their genitals, because that’s the closest they can get to having sex, and it will probably take 2-3 hours to go through security instead of 30-60 minutes.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on March 27, 2026, 05:29:36 PM
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TSA is finally getting paid. Hope people see that the payment is coming to them via the $10B discretionary fund allocated to DHS in the 2025 Big Beautiful Bill. Hope people also see that $10B is more than enough to fund TSA for a year. Hope people now see that this means Trump and Republicans could've been paying TSA this whole time but didn't because hurting workers was their leverage to get what they want and now they lost their leverage, they're now just hoping to come off as heroes.

https://apnews.com/article/airport-delays-wait-times-shutdown-congress-tsa-b419e989a22dbc028d01cbd892fadb40
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Paid in dollars that will have Trumps signature on the
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I can’t remember if it was on the previous page, but the goal is to ruin TSA to replace it with a security company owned by one of Trump’s lackeys. One of the goals of Project 2025 was to privatize TSA.

They ruined USPS so we will have to use FedEx/UPS to mail letters which will be more expensive. Rural communities will lose their access to mail, including medication delivery.

When TSA gets replaced, we’ll have idiots pulling the majority of people to the side to pat down their genitals, because that’s the closest they can get to having sex, and it will probably take 2-3 hours to go through security instead of 30-60 minutes.

The plan for the Heritage Foundation and Republicans is to privatize EVERYTHING!!

Prisons, hospitals, schools, TSA, fire dept, libraries, USPS, etc.

They intend to break everything to prove that it doesn't work so they can privatize it and profit off it.

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Noble Experiment on March 27, 2026, 05:51:49 PM
When TSA gets replaced, we’ll have idiots pulling the majority of people to the side to pat down their genitals, because that’s the closest they can get to having sex, and it will probably take 2-3 hours to go through security instead of 30-60 minutes.
I'd imagine all people who're willing to be employed by a Trump owned security team would be nothing but the worst premature ejaculators, so it'd probably be closer to 2-3 seconds.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on March 27, 2026, 07:56:46 PM
Trump paid a French company $1,000,000,000 in tax payer money for a deal that would have the French company abandon off-shore wind leases, securing a future for oil and coal. An industry he and his friends have a lot of stock in.

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/93GWfYSE-mE
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on March 27, 2026, 11:07:48 PM
But his emails!
(https://i.postimg.cc/jj1bXDzW/IMG-6705.png) (https://postimg.cc/Jyjv74Ym)
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/iran-linked-hackers-claim-breach-of-fbi-directors-personal-email-doj-official-2026-03-27/
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on March 28, 2026, 02:16:26 AM
But his emails!
(https://i.postimg.cc/jj1bXDzW/IMG-6705.png) (https://postimg.cc/Jyjv74Ym)
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/iran-linked-hackers-claim-breach-of-fbi-directors-personal-email-doj-official-2026-03-27/

And this is the Director of the FBI. In his defense, Kash seems like the type of moron that would make his password the word “password” on top of always clicking the link that tells him that hot singles in his area want to bang him.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on March 28, 2026, 11:03:08 AM
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But his emails!
(https://i.postimg.cc/jj1bXDzW/IMG-6705.png) (https://postimg.cc/Jyjv74Ym)
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/iran-linked-hackers-claim-breach-of-fbi-directors-personal-email-doj-official-2026-03-27/
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And this is the Director of the FBI. In his defense, Kash seems like the type of moron that would make his password the word “password” on top of always clicking the link that tells him that hot singles in his area want to bang him.

It’s def “Ka$hword”
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on March 29, 2026, 03:54:06 PM
Bloomberg.

Learned common phrase in China is "Trump the Nation Builder." The nation they're referencing is China. In China people are calling Trump the China Builder. Also, listening to Ezra Klien or Jon Stewart (can't remember which one), China's adoption of robots in their factories is booming. This keeps their production costs low. Outside of inability to even come close on manufacturing costs, this is terrifying in the sense that--if we focus on efficiency--what is left for us to do? White collar, LLM can do it. Blue collar, robot can do it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukWwV5peW14

Year to year comparisons are usually hyperbole, but I worry this is the start of a trend. I'd like to see previous years to get a real understanding how this is different across time.
(https://i.ibb.co/81MZG72/Screenshot-2026-03-13-at-1-51-09-PM.png)
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: venmare on March 30, 2026, 01:44:24 AM
That's true, we called Trump as the nation builder, know it all man, tariff man etc.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on March 31, 2026, 03:23:08 AM
This is unacceptable. The Trump grift makes anyone in congress look like a saint.

Public servants should be like fucking nuns, they had a calling to support their country, they should be comfortable but never wealthy. I'd vote for a redesign of the system that forces anyone who takes a government job at x level or higher is blocked from any advisor, board, or executive job for life. They can only be regular ass employees, unless they run a medical practice.

I know a few diplomats and they used to brag about the shit ass American cars American diplomats used to get around. They compared themselves to Russian diplomats who love their luxury vehicles. The normal car was meant to show we were there to serve our country and foster relations with others, not benefit ourselves from our position.

The overt corruption and manipulation of the market/inside information is sickening. The political economy of America has always been rigged in the sense that class mobility is limited but to see those with access to power make millions in seconds with no thought and no narrative to justify it is sickening. Americans are watching their 401Ks tumble (again), while Trump and his cronies make insane wealth on top of the wealth that would last until the end of human civilization.

I remember sitting in Russia and seeing how the government operated--from the police to the universities to those in the Duma--and I said, "This is America's future. This is what the Republican Party wants." We aren't in the same crony-capitalism/kleptocracy system quite yet, but we are heading down that path quickly. And, with Ellison owning CNN and his son owning TikTok and Sinclair owning so many local stations, we are going to repeat their media landscape, which will make it all the easier. The current grifts are just the start   :(
https://yalebooks.yale.edu/book/9780300243093/russias-crony-capitalism/

The Head of Department of Defense reaching out to Black Rock to buy millions in stock for defense industry right before the war.
(https://i.ibb.co/cKyjq8zh/Screenshot-2026-03-31-at-3-03-58-AM.png)

Big investments right before the invasion of Iran
https://www.newyorker.com/news/the-financial-page/who-struck-it-rich-in-the-markets-when-trump-postponed-bombing-iran

The big "prediction market" bet right before the attack on Iran.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/3/25/large-polymarket-wall-street-bets-on-trumps-war-news-under-scrutiny

The "prediction market" bet that Maduro would be ousted (Polymarket allows for anonymous bets via crypto).
(https://i.ibb.co/5Wx9CcQp/Screenshot-2026-03-31-at-3-07-48-AM.png)

Trump Jr. Getting a seat on the board of a prediction market while investing millions in another just as daddy gets to make rules about regulation.
(https://i.ibb.co/W4wcXvDw/Screenshot-2026-03-31-at-3-00-30-AM.png)
(https://i.ibb.co/wFNdk7gz/Screenshot-2026-03-31-at-3-00-19-AM.png)

Kushner making billions off his wife's fathers connections
(https://i.ibb.co/SXXvvt9n/Screenshot-2026-03-31-at-2-59-25-AM.png)

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: AnimalChinaski79 on March 31, 2026, 03:30:35 AM
We need a French style revolution with guillotines and rolling heads.  I'd love the see every Trump family member decapitated.  Fucking greedy sociopaths need to learn.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on March 31, 2026, 08:35:02 AM
We need a French style revolution with guillotines and rolling heads.  I'd love the see every Trump family member decapitated.  Fucking greedy sociopaths need to learn.

People who say this should really keep reading the history books after the storming of the Bastille.   The Reign of Terror was not an ironic title for things being super chill once the revolution started
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: tobal on March 31, 2026, 08:53:30 AM
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We need a French style revolution with guillotines and rolling heads.  I'd love the see every Trump family member decapitated.  Fucking greedy sociopaths need to learn.
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People who say this should really keep reading the history books after the storming of the Bastille.   The Reign of Terror was not an ironic title for things being super chill once the revolution started


1789 was a mascarade.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Gnarfunkell on March 31, 2026, 11:32:04 AM
US exempts Gulf of Mexico drillers from endangered species rules

www.reuters.com/business/energy/us-may-exempt-gulf-mexico-drillers-protecting-endangered-species-2026-03-31/

Another heart-breaking development from this admin.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on March 31, 2026, 11:42:43 AM
US exempts Gulf of Mexico drillers from endangered species rules

www.reuters.com/business/energy/us-may-exempt-gulf-mexico-drillers-protecting-endangered-species-2026-03-31/

Another heart-breaking development from this admin.

I'm legit surprised more species haven't gone extinct under the Trump admin. Like, I wouldn't be surprised if he called for the otter fur trade industry to come back because synthetic materials are suddenly "woke."
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: JANUS on April 01, 2026, 10:01:49 AM
Old man says European military allies shouldn’t count on the US for security. Old man starts a war without consulting military allies. Old man demands assistance from European military allies while claiming he needs no outside assistance. Old man suggests he may abandon the war he started, and threatens to leave military alliance after already telling allies not to count on the US for security.

Clearly, the old man is a master strategist.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on April 01, 2026, 10:07:14 AM
Old man says European military allies shouldn’t count on the US for security. Old man starts a war without consulting military allies. Old man demands assistance from European military allies while claiming he needs no outside assistance. Old man suggests he may abandon the war he started, and threatens to leave military alliance after already telling allies not to count on the US for security.

Clearly, the old man is a master strategist.

Old man also showed up to a SCOTUS hearing to try and intimidate them. Old man also angrily walked out half way when he realized his EO can't overturn a Constiutional Amendment. Old man will go off on Truth Social very shortly.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: AnimalChinaski79 on April 01, 2026, 02:11:20 PM
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Old man says European military allies shouldn’t count on the US for security. Old man starts a war without consulting military allies. Old man demands assistance from European military allies while claiming he needs no outside assistance. Old man suggests he may abandon the war he started, and threatens to leave military alliance after already telling allies not to count on the US for security.

Clearly, the old man is a master strategist.
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Old man also showed up to a SCOTUS hearing to try and intimidate them. Old man also angrily walked out half way when he realized his EO can't overturn a Constiutional Amendment. Old man will go off on Truth Social very shortly.

Old man shit's diaper on televised primetime speech tonight. 
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: The Huffer on April 01, 2026, 06:56:22 PM
Old man paints Iran as the boogeyman while thanking Israel for support.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on April 01, 2026, 07:15:08 PM
Old man will soon thank Russia from saving the world from Communism…
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Hefe43 on April 01, 2026, 10:12:31 PM
Old man should’ve been strapped to that Artemis core stage that they separated from earlier today
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Chalupa on April 02, 2026, 05:02:14 AM
“But…but…but…Dementia Joe.”

Old man probably never passed the cognitive assessment tests he thinks are IQ tests.

I wish old man would get hit in the head by a golf ball and go into a coma, but couch fucker would replace him.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on April 02, 2026, 05:35:29 AM
“But…but…but…Dementia Joe.”

Old man probably never passed the cognitive assessment tests he thinks are IQ tests.

I wish old man would get hit in the head by a golf ball and go into a coma, but couch fucker would replace him.

Crazy thing is Couch Fucker would be better because people don’t fear and/or bend the knee to him like they do Cheeto face. More MAGA would be willing to stand up to him.

Downside is, he is 100% going to be doing Peter Thiel’s bidding.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Jim and Dan on April 02, 2026, 05:55:44 AM
This is unacceptable. The Trump grift makes anyone in congress look like a saint.

Public servants should be like fucking nuns, they had a calling to support their country, they should be comfortable but never wealthy. I'd vote for a redesign of the system that forces anyone who takes a government job at x level or higher is blocked from any advisor, board, or executive job for life. They can only be regular ass employees, unless they run a medical practice.

I know a few diplomats and they used to brag about the shit ass American cars American diplomats used to get around. They compared themselves to Russian diplomats who love their luxury vehicles. The normal car was meant to show we were there to serve our country and foster relations with others, not benefit ourselves from our position.

The overt corruption and manipulation of the market/inside information is sickening. The political economy of America has always been rigged in the sense that class mobility is limited but to see those with access to power make millions in seconds with no thought and no narrative to justify it is sickening. Americans are watching their 401Ks tumble (again), while Trump and his cronies make insane wealth on top of the wealth that would last until the end of human civilization.

I remember sitting in Russia and seeing how the government operated--from the police to the universities to those in the Duma--and I said, "This is America's future. This is what the Republican Party wants." We aren't in the same crony-capitalism/kleptocracy system quite yet, but we are heading down that path quickly. And, with Ellison owning CNN and his son owning TikTok and Sinclair owning so many local stations, we are going to repeat their media landscape, which will make it all the easier. The current grifts are just the start   :(
https://yalebooks.yale.edu/book/9780300243093/russias-crony-capitalism/

The Head of Department of Defense reaching out to Black Rock to buy millions in stock for defense industry right before the war.
(https://i.ibb.co/cKyjq8zh/Screenshot-2026-03-31-at-3-03-58-AM.png)

Big investments right before the invasion of Iran
https://www.newyorker.com/news/the-financial-page/who-struck-it-rich-in-the-markets-when-trump-postponed-bombing-iran

The big "prediction market" bet right before the attack on Iran.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/3/25/large-polymarket-wall-street-bets-on-trumps-war-news-under-scrutiny

The "prediction market" bet that Maduro would be ousted (Polymarket allows for anonymous bets via crypto).
(https://i.ibb.co/5Wx9CcQp/Screenshot-2026-03-31-at-3-07-48-AM.png)

Trump Jr. Getting a seat on the board of a prediction market while investing millions in another just as daddy gets to make rules about regulation.
(https://i.ibb.co/W4wcXvDw/Screenshot-2026-03-31-at-3-00-30-AM.png)
(https://i.ibb.co/wFNdk7gz/Screenshot-2026-03-31-at-3-00-19-AM.png)

Kushner making billions off his wife's fathers connections
(https://i.ibb.co/SXXvvt9n/Screenshot-2026-03-31-at-2-59-25-AM.png)

It's the flagrant and out-in-the-open nature of this administrations corruption that really gets to me, it's truly disgusting and pitiful...

This country is beyond cooked...
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on April 02, 2026, 08:51:19 AM
Old man says it’s not possible for federal government to pay for medicaid, medicare, and child care — it should be the state’s responsibility. Old man the says the federal government needs to focus its money on military protection (aka wars).
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-says-not-possible-us-pay-medicaid-medicare-daycare-re-fighting-w-rcna266381
(there’s a video clip that the WH posted and immediately took down that’s floating on the interwebs)

But yea, look forward to the old man and his administration to completely gutting health care, ssn, and child subsidies soon just to fund the war.

Lots of soldiers with PTSD from this fight is gonna be dying in the streets in the near future and MAGA will be quick to blame it on Democrats.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on April 02, 2026, 09:13:46 AM
Trump is considering firing Pam Bondi over her handling of the Esptein Files -- he's upset she didn't do more to distract and prevent their release.

Can you imagine after what a goon she was, what kind of horrendous shit her replacement will do to please Trump?

https://apnews.com/article/trump-bondi-zeldin-justice-department-4b1bf39326d2d2c3fd41cadff91dd75b
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Noble Experiment on April 02, 2026, 10:17:19 AM
All this old man talk has me wanting to listen to Neil Young now.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Chalupa on April 02, 2026, 10:22:51 AM
Trump is considering firing Pam Bondi over her handling of the Esptein Files -- he's upset she didn't do more to distract and prevent their release.

Can you imagine after what a goon she was, what kind of horrendous shit her replacement will do to please Trump?

https://apnews.com/article/trump-bondi-zeldin-justice-department-4b1bf39326d2d2c3fd41cadff91dd75b
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoJscHAchdo&pp=ygUUcGFtIGJvbmRpIGNvbW1lcmNpYWw=&ra=m
She had to turn off the comments because she ended up doing the opposite.

Old man is considering Lee Zeldin, who is administrator of the EPA. He got rid of environmental protections, so he’ll have no trouble doing the same to laws that prosecute pedophiles. It will guarantee that old man can’t be prosecuted for anything while Republicans are in the White House.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Nom De Plume on April 03, 2026, 03:42:40 AM
Trump is an old man.

OK, was just checking that the no one thing isn't happening in here too.

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: pugmaster on April 03, 2026, 06:32:32 PM
https://www.congress.gov/119/meeting/house/118371/documents/HHRG-119-GO06-20250611-SD004.pdf (https://www.congress.gov/119/meeting/house/118371/documents/HHRG-119-GO06-20250611-SD004.pdf)

Important takeaway: The Pentagon can't account for 63% of 4 FUCKING TRILLION IN ASSETS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


4 FUCKING TRILLION: 4,000,000,000,000.

63% of 4 FUCKING TRILLION: 2,520,000,000,000

2,520,000,000,000 dollars are completely UNACCOUNTED FOR

To put that in perspective:
1 million seconds in days: 11.57 days
1 billion seconds in days: 31 years and 8 months
1 TRILLION FUCKING SECONDS: 31,710 years
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on April 03, 2026, 07:13:41 PM
Old man says it’s not possible for federal government to pay for medicaid, medicare, and child care — it should be the state’s responsibility. Old man the says the federal government needs to focus its money on military protection (aka wars).
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-says-not-possible-us-pay-medicaid-medicare-daycare-re-fighting-w-rcna266381
(there’s a video clip that the WH posted and immediately took down that’s floating on the interwebs)

But yea, look forward to the old man and his administration to completely gutting health care, ssn, and child subsidies soon just to fund the war.

Lots of soldiers with PTSD from this fight is gonna be dying in the streets in the near future and MAGA will be quick to blame it on Democrats.

Yeah fuck us all. We’ve only been paying into these things for decades. Why should we feel entitled to our money when there’s IMPORTANT THINGS TO SPEND IT ON:
(https://i.postimg.cc/RhrpxvVP/IMG-6715.png) (https://postimg.cc/dkBj8PCd)
We’d better stop whining for handouts!
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on April 03, 2026, 10:00:05 PM
$10 that Trump and Hegseth haven't launched a search and rescue for the pilot that was shot down behind enemy lines.

His attitude and comment towards John McCain's capture and being a POW should be an indicator of how he'll respond: "He's not a war hero. He's a war hero because he was captured. I like people that weren't captured."

Yea, that pilot is fucked.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Painted Baby on April 03, 2026, 11:23:54 PM
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Old man says it’s not possible for federal government to pay for medicaid, medicare, and child care — it should be the state’s responsibility. Old man the says the federal government needs to focus its money on military protection (aka wars).
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-says-not-possible-us-pay-medicaid-medicare-daycare-re-fighting-w-rcna266381
(there’s a video clip that the WH posted and immediately took down that’s floating on the interwebs)

But yea, look forward to the old man and his administration to completely gutting health care, ssn, and child subsidies soon just to fund the war.

Lots of soldiers with PTSD from this fight is gonna be dying in the streets in the near future and MAGA will be quick to blame it on Democrats.
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Yeah fuck us all. We’ve only been paying into these things for decades. Why should we feel entitled to our money when there’s IMPORTANT THINGS TO SPEND IT ON:
(https://i.postimg.cc/RhrpxvVP/IMG-6715.png) (https://postimg.cc/dkBj8PCd)
We’d better stop whining for handouts!
"We're fighting wars. We can't take care of daycare."
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: AnimalChinaski79 on April 04, 2026, 02:31:01 AM
$10 that Trump and Hegseth haven't launched a search and rescue for the pilot that was shot down behind enemy lines.

His attitude and comment towards John McCain's capture and being a POW should be an indicator of how he'll respond: "He's not a war hero. He's a war hero because he was captured. I like people that weren't captured."

Yea, that pilot is fucked.

Not a exaggeration sadly. 

Since Hegseth is a Christian Nationalist nutjob and considers this a holy war he'll probably start the ground invasion on Easter sunday.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on April 04, 2026, 03:22:06 AM
I think Kirsti Noem used up the propaganda budget for the year. The video the White House put out to promote the war is, well, wow... I think even middle schoolers would be embarrassed by it. The Mortal Kombat song is bad enough but the "Flawless Victory" at the end of the video is painfully cringy:
https://x.com/WhiteHouse/status/2029741548791853331

The White House needs to hire Iran's AI prompter. He's doing way better job creating propaganda than whoever threw the White House video together.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBcCUe2gHVs

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Chalupa on April 04, 2026, 06:07:39 AM
No money for social services like health care for the elderly and low-income tax payers, but endless money to fight wars for Israel and build a bunker for the Epstein class under the White House ballroom.

Where are the “America first” and “reduce the deficit” people? They’re awfully silent.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on April 04, 2026, 06:50:07 AM
No money for social services like health care for the elderly and low-income tax payers, but endless money to fight wars for Israel and build a bunker for the Epstein class under the White House ballroom.

Where are the “America first” and “reduce the deficit” people? They’re awfully silent.

Basically Trump: Your federal taxes should pay for my wants, not your needs.

He sees the US Treasury as his personal slush fund.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Chalupa on April 05, 2026, 06:16:54 AM
(https://i.postimg.cc/s2NVLDqq/IMG-4157.jpg)
I make the mistake of thinking that he can’t get any crazier, but keep getting proven wrong. Even if he didn’t post it, all the people in the White House are batshit insane and need to be long-term patients in psychiatric facilities. They’re the greatest threat to the world.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on April 05, 2026, 07:50:02 AM
(https://i.postimg.cc/s2NVLDqq/IMG-4157.jpg)

For the record, this is from a man who Christians everywhere say he’s God sent and true reflection of Christian values.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Chalupa on April 05, 2026, 09:58:55 AM
from Zeteo:
(https://i.postimg.cc/C5Zvvpd7/IMG-4159.jpg)
The last paragraph reaffirms my view that politicians in the West love to rape and kill civilians in other countries to steal resources. Iranians who bootlicked for Trump look even more stupid now and are now saying that the government shot 60,000 protesters in two days.

Iran was ready to make a deal in February, but Israel/USA attacked them instead during mediations and killed the lead negotiator. How can anyone expect the Iranian government to negotiate with pathologically lying terrorists?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Emo jimmy on April 05, 2026, 10:51:20 AM
Unhinged

We have a fucking rapist pedo as president because rednecks would rather suffer than see black and brown people treated decently

This deranged nepo baby wouldnt be able to hold down an entry level retail gig for a week but we got him in charge of everything smh
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: AnimalChinaski79 on April 06, 2026, 02:52:56 AM
Expletive filled rants on social media telling the opposition to open the "effing" strait or we'll commit war crimes. The true statesman and deal maker.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Billy Bitchcakes on April 07, 2026, 07:33:28 AM
Well this is fun

(https://uksf-media.lon1.cdn.digitaloceanspaces.com/optimized/3X/8/1/81605f04d878f9632ecfc5ec5f0d3a2833b7c1df_2_486x500.png)
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: augustmoon on April 07, 2026, 08:18:14 AM
He’s about to nuke Iran.  This is why all of the military leaders were fired last week. 
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Chalupa on April 07, 2026, 08:27:15 AM
If there’s a regime change, why does the United States of Israel need to nuke Iran?

250 years of extortion, corruption and death from America.

China has existed for thousands of years and has not been at war as much USA in the last 2000 years.

It’s easier and more profitable to destroy and rebuild countries to make money. This is what happens when people are instilled with ethnic supremacy and money worshipping from a young age and don’t apply themselves to make meaningful contributions to improve society.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on April 07, 2026, 09:15:35 AM
He’s about to nuke Iran.  This is why all of the military leaders were fired last week.

Guaranteed he hits an area where US troops are also stationed and he'll blame it all on Obama's weak Iran Treaty.

If there’s a regime change, why does the United States of Israel need to nuke Iran?

There was never a regime change. Just a new leader with the same political views as the previous leader (his dad) but now only more extreme in his views because his dad, wife, and kid were killed in the bombings.

It’s easier and more profitable to destroy and rebuild countries to make money. This is what happens when people are instilled with ethnic supremacy and money worshipping from a young age and don’t apply themselves to make meaningful contributions to improve society.

Trump doesn't want Iranian land. He wants the land in Gaza (you know the one his son-in-law presented plans for a Mar-a-lago resort for) and he needs to do Israel's bidding to get that land.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Emo jimmy on April 07, 2026, 10:19:02 AM
Conservatives never need to be in charge of anything ever again, let the adults take over and prosecute the shit out of all of em immediately
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Dj Paul on April 07, 2026, 10:53:42 AM
I think Kirsti Noem used up the propaganda budget for the year. The video the White House put out to promote the war is, well, wow... I think even middle schoolers would be embarrassed by it. The Mortal Kombat song is bad enough but the "Flawless Victory" at the end of the video is painfully cringy:
https://x.com/WhiteHouse/status/2029741548791853331

The White House needs to hire Iran's AI prompter. He's doing way better job creating propaganda than whoever threw the White House video together.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBcCUe2gHVs

Trump is the new Hitler.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on April 07, 2026, 11:38:44 AM
Conservatives never need to be in charge of anything ever again, let the adults take over and prosecute the shit out of all of em immediately

But if we vote for liberals, everything bad that’s happening now will for sure happen under their administration.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Jehoshaphat Augustus on April 07, 2026, 11:51:09 AM
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But if we vote for liberals, everything bad that’s happening now will for sure happen under their administration.
and we will be FORCED to get a smaller trailer and vacation home because of having to provide all those slimy pathetic drains on society with "food" "services" and "housing"
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on April 07, 2026, 12:07:30 PM
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Conservatives never need to be in charge of anything ever again, let the adults take over and prosecute the shit out of all of em immediately
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But if we vote for liberals, everything bad that’s happening now will for sure happen under their administration.
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and we will be FORCED to get a smaller trailer and vacation home because of having to provide all those slimy pathetic drains on society with "food" "services" and "housing"

Having food and housing is pretty woke ideology. Much like the idea of affordability.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Chalupa on April 07, 2026, 12:18:42 PM
Israel must have enough dirt on Trump that would get him sentenced to life in prison multiple times because no other president, including another sex pest [Bill Clinton], was stupid enough to be goaded into war with Iran.

Fuck Germany, Canada, Australia, Argentina and any country who supports attacking Iran. It went from 3,000 to 30,000 to 60,000 people killed by the Iranian government. I’m fed up with the blatant propaganda and ass licking of Israel. If they didn’t attack other countries, act worse than Nazis, and try to carry out the “Greater Israel” project, the surrounding countries wouldn’t hate them. Israel attacks first and the majority of the West claims it is defense, while labeling Muslim countries who defend themselves as “terrorists.”

“We’re the good guys and if you don’t give us what we want, we’ll kill you. Also, if you agree to our demands, we’ll still kill you.”
- Israel and USA
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on April 07, 2026, 12:30:08 PM
We are the evil axis. Fuck it’d be nice to have ANYONE in our government that wasn’t a ball less sack of shit envoke the 25th on this clearly insane asshat BEFORE he nukes a nation for absolutely no god damn reason.

The writing is literally on the wall:
(https://i.postimg.cc/ZnCbbcBs/IMG-6721.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/RJx5GwTw)
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: RichardBarkley on April 07, 2026, 12:57:34 PM
Yeah, I think for millennials who were young but old enough to understand what was happening, the years after 9/11 were a real wake-up call. Since then, I’ve pretty much seen them, in simple terms, as the villains. To me, they’ve been the biggest threat to whatever sense of global peace exists, and that’s how it’s felt for most of my life.

They also have the most powerful, polished, and effective propaganda machine in the world. And it doesn’t just influence Americans... they’ve managed to shape how people across much of the world see things.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Dj Paul on April 07, 2026, 01:47:01 PM
I remember watching a documentary about the Vietnam War. An American soldier in battle (that lost all his friends ) saying he had no idea why he was there, killing Vietnamese people.

This is been USA since cold war.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on April 07, 2026, 01:56:54 PM
I remember watching a documentary about the Vietnam War. An American soldier in battle (that lost all his friends ) saying he had no idea why he was there, killing Vietnamese people.

This is been USA since cold war.

No war since the American Revolution has been about freedom.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on April 07, 2026, 02:41:43 PM
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I remember watching a documentary about the Vietnam War. An American soldier in battle (that lost all his friends ) saying he had no idea why he was there, killing Vietnamese people.

This is been USA since cold war.
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No war since the American Revolution has been about freedom.

I mean if we’re going there you could make the argument th AR wasn’t either. 
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: GardenSkater77 on April 07, 2026, 03:52:43 PM
How Trump went to war with Iran. Leaks from the war room. NYT article:

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/07/us/politics/trump-iran-war.html

No pay wall for now.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: h00man on April 07, 2026, 04:09:03 PM
republicans are too scared to invoke the 25th...they're nothing without their king trump. Also he most likely has dirt on them all, just like how putin has on trump
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Marion Stoked on April 07, 2026, 07:15:10 PM

US prez openly calling for genocide via social media, palpable threats of nuclear escalation and civilian targeting, lego wartime videos made by artificial intelligence.


The future is stupid as fuck.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on April 07, 2026, 11:23:52 PM
Welp, another fucking TACO Tuesday.

I wonder what insider trades went down just before the market closed. Super fun to watch the after hours value jump 1K points.

I'm glad there is some sanity/pull back. I'm glad we decided not to genocide civilians. At least America can say we didn't bomb bridges and power plants civilians need to survive (low bar).

But, Christ, I'm tired of what feels like market manipulation. I wonder which family member put a few hundred million in their bank account today via the stock market or through some "prediction market" bet.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: RichardBarkley on April 07, 2026, 11:33:56 PM
Welp, another fucking TACO Tuesday.

I wonder what insider trades went down just before the market closed. Super fun to watch the after hours value jump 1K points.

I'm glad there is some sanity/pull back. I'm glad we decided not to genocide civilians. At least America can say we didn't bomb bridges and power plants civilians need to survive (low bar).

But, Christ, I'm tired of what feels like market manipulation. I wonder which family member put a few hundred million in their bank account today via the stock market or through some "prediction market" bet.

The market manipulation is depressing but waking up this morning to news that there was no action was relieving.

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Allen. on April 08, 2026, 12:12:46 AM
Someone do the fucking thing already.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on April 08, 2026, 12:24:27 AM
Someone do the fucking thing already.

No to president vance who might be able to soften poll number plummeting
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Allen. on April 08, 2026, 04:29:43 AM
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Someone do the fucking thing already.
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No to president vance who might be able to soften poll number plummeting

JD is a black hole of charisma, I dunno if he or anyone would be able to match the Cult of personality Trump has in the base’s mind.
Shit I hope I’m right
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: KoRnholio8 on April 08, 2026, 01:36:38 PM
So ... how many terrorist attack do you suppose are coming to USA in the next decades? Or do Iranians see Trump as a total clown and don't even care all that much?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: AnimalChinaski79 on April 08, 2026, 02:14:38 PM
So ... how many terrorist attack do you suppose are coming to USA in the next decades? Or do Iranians see Trump as a total clown and don't even care all that much?

Who knows, but I do know the Lego videos they release mocking Trump are hilarious.  They think he's a total moron. 
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on April 08, 2026, 02:51:17 PM
So ... how many terrorist attack do you suppose are coming to USA in the next decades?

Doesn’t matter. Any and all attacks that are attributed to Trump’s feckless attitude towards the middle east will be blamed on Biden’s (non-existent) “open border” policy.

MAGA already see Trump’s deal of ships now being charged to cross $2,000,000 to pass thru the strait—when it used to be free—as a good thing. As is Iran now being allowed unlimited expansion of Uranium enrichment, versus when Obama had them agree to no enrichment.

That’s Trump’s 5D chess for ya—pay more, get less, convince yourself that suffering is good.

I just wish terrorists would just hit the states and cities that voted to put Trump and his cabinet in charge. Versus the big cities that were against Trump and will inevitably be the obvious target for such terror attacks.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Chalupa on April 08, 2026, 03:28:24 PM
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So ... how many terrorist attack do you suppose are coming to USA in the next decades? Or do Iranians see Trump as a total clown and don't even care all that much?
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Who knows, but I do know the Lego videos they release mocking Trump are hilarious.  They think he's a total moron.
To be fair, they probably think the average American is stupid as well, considering Americans elected a con artist twice. Over 50% of Americans over 18 read at a 6th-grade level or below, while 21% are technically illiterate. That means that around 25% of this country’s adults are literate enough to read books that are more complicated than Captain Underpants. Iran understands their target audience.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on April 08, 2026, 04:31:43 PM
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So ... how many terrorist attack do you suppose are coming to USA in the next decades? Or do Iranians see Trump as a total clown and don't even care all that much?
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Who knows, but I do know the Lego videos they release mocking Trump are hilarious.  They think he's a total moron.
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To be fair, they probably think the average American is stupid as well, considering Americans elected a con artist twice. Over 50% of Americans over 18 read at a 6th-grade level or below, while 21% are technically illiterate. That means that around 25% of this country’s adults are literate enough to read books that are more complicated than Captain Underpants. Iran understands their target audience. ARE MAGA

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on April 08, 2026, 05:51:29 PM
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So ... how many terrorist attack do you suppose are coming to USA in the next decades? Or do Iranians see Trump as a total clown and don't even care all that much?
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Who knows, but I do know the Lego videos they release mocking Trump are hilarious.  They think he's a total moron.
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To be fair, they probably think the average American is stupid as well, considering Americans elected a con artist twice. Over 50% of Americans over 18 read at a 6th-grade level or below, while 21% are technically illiterate. That means that around 25% of this country’s adults are literate enough to read books that are more complicated than Captain Underpants. Iran understands their target audience. ARE MAGA
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50% of voters voted for Trump.  That’s hardly 50% of Americans considering our voting turnout
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on April 08, 2026, 06:24:58 PM
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So ... how many terrorist attack do you suppose are coming to USA in the next decades? Or do Iranians see Trump as a total clown and don't even care all that much?
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Who knows, but I do know the Lego videos they release mocking Trump are hilarious.  They think he's a total moron.
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To be fair, they probably think the average American is stupid as well, considering Americans elected a con artist twice. Over 50% of Americans over 18 read at a 6th-grade level or below, while 21% are technically illiterate. That means that around 25% of this country’s adults are literate enough to read books that are more complicated than Captain Underpants. Iran understands their target audience. ARE MAGA
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50% of voters voted for Trump.  That’s hardly 50% of Americans considering our voting turnout

I purposely consider anyone who sat the election out as MAGA because they knew what was at stake and chose to support Trump via indifference.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on April 08, 2026, 09:56:57 PM
US will use existing information to auto register 18 year olds for the draft.

Also, resources to auto register 18 year olds for the draft isn't reliable enough to auto register 18 year olds to vote.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Chalupa on April 09, 2026, 09:48:55 AM
US will use existing information to auto register 18 year olds for the draft.

Also, resources to auto register 18 year olds for the draft isn't reliable enough to auto register 18 year olds to vote.
DOGE got the data of pretty much every person living in the US. I’m willing to bet that the auto-registering program was created with an AI tool by 18-20 year-old white nationalists who will never be drafted.

Also, I’m glad that I’m diagnosed with ADHD and got on an anti-depressant in January. It completely disqualifies me from service even if they increase drafting age to the voluntary enlistment age of 41-42. If they really need people, they could make me fill out waivers. However, I would still be ineligible since recruits need to be off most psychiatric medications for at least 2 years. I refuse to die for the Epstein Regime to help billionaires steal resources and land to expand Israel.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on April 09, 2026, 02:01:49 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/NMxsv00m/IMG-5302.jpg)

Seriously. From this point on, only you can prevent forest fires.

That’s because right before forest fire season, Trump dismantled the Forest Fire Research Dept whose data helps fight and prevent fires.

Couple this with the defunding of FEMA and we’re gonna have a lot of fucked over people this dry season.

Wonder how they’ll blame Obama for all of this?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: AnimalChinaski79 on April 09, 2026, 02:23:32 PM
Anyone else watch Mr. Global?  He's pretty good when it comes to geopolitics and oil.  Apparently Iran just blew up the trans Saudi pipeline and a bunch of oil refinery and infrastructure in a bunch of the gulf countries. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVMUj9BSu-U
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: AnimalChinaski79 on April 09, 2026, 03:48:18 PM
Anyone else watch Mr. Global?  He's pretty good when it comes to geopolitics and oil.  Apparently Iran just blew up the trans Saudi pipeline and a bunch of oil refinery and infrastructure in a bunch of the gulf countries.  Could easily be an Israeli false flag I suppose too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVMUj9BSu-U
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: RichardBarkley on April 11, 2026, 12:59:28 AM
Looking at the peace talks. Iran's FM, Abbas Araghchi, PhD, is smarter than all the Americans at this summit.  Especially, embarrassing is Kushner and Witkoff, a couple of Israel's stooges.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on April 11, 2026, 02:43:58 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/0yBQLZ0Z/Screenshot-2026-04-11-at-2-44-41-AM.png)
https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2026/03/25/americans-broadly-disapprove-of-u-s-military-action-in-iran/

Amazing how differently people see the war based on political affliation. I'm sure our opinions are framed by established perceptions of Trump as well as right/left loyalty, but I wonder what the right wing media is saying about the cost of oil, the strait possibly being a forever toll road, other countries creating tolls around global shipping, and our EU and Asian allies being annoyed that we unilaterally fucked up their cost of living without notice.

Not to mention the potential loss of the petrodollar. Petrodollars have had negative consequences for many of us, but they also help subsidize the American economy. My personal need of needing income leads me to prefer the Middle-East subsidizing America rather than China. Not that the economy and individual well being are the same thing or connected as strongly as we'd like to pretend.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PC3Xen-9gM0

Also, I've seen the left intensely focusing on cost as a key argument against the war. I feel the cost avenue isn't the best critique--as money needs to be spent on domestic stuff as well as things abroad for America to retain power and for America to support good causes--better critiques may be the cost on Americans, the lack of goals, the lack of planning, the harm done to America's partners, the harm done to our image, the inhumanity in Trump's threats, pretending that the predictable action of shutting down the Strait was not going to happen.

I don't believe for a second this benevolent hegemon narrative the right/left have recently started peddling. Obviously, the right started peddling this shit because they want to paint a picture of America being used by the rest of the world. The left--weirdly--started using it because, ummm, maybe to make the US sound like nation of altruism all the time or because they need to have the opposite narrative for some reason? Fareed Zakaria was mentioning this on Klein's podcast this week. I don't get it. America has engaged in some seriously shitty actions abroad. We have severely fucked up other countries and done plenty of stupid shit that blew up in our faces. 

The left and the center (and any non-lunatic on the right) needs to frame NATO, USAID, etc., as doing good, BUT acknowledge the horrible shit we've done, and explain some of the most benign things we do is to create benefit for us. We don't have military bases in Japan, Germany, etc., because we want to be nice to the people we (along with the UK, Canada, Russia, and others--Russia did the real heavy lifting of that war) beat in WWII, we have bases their because it is us preventing wealthy competitors/potential threats from developing a military to challenge us, risk our safety, or create wars that'll fuck up our economy the way we are fucking up Asia's economy right now. Our military, political, and support spending abroad has given us so much power and made the world comfortable for us, it has benefitted other countries for sure, but we get more back than we put in. It is not about altruism, it is about power, stability, and influence.

I swear, America needs to institute adult education sabbaticals. At the ages of 25, 30, 35, etc. all Americans should get 4 months off from work to study civics, medicine, finance, etc. The idea that we are done being educated at 18 or 22 is absurd. The news tells stories, but they lack depth. They lack real framing. I also wonder how much better our political debates might be if the avg person had been reminded of how government works and was introduced to a variety of political, economic, and social theories.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on April 11, 2026, 02:56:22 AM
Welp, fuck Eric Swalwell
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Chalupa on April 11, 2026, 08:03:08 AM
Welp, fuck Eric Swalwell
I had to look it up. He sexually assaulted at least four women:
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c20qg3g9554o

He’s trying to paint it as a smear tactic by other candidates or the Republican party, despite the fact that his accusers are former staff members.

As much as I hate both parties [for different reasons], Democrats at least vocally oppose abusers in their party, while Republicans increase their support for abusers running for office because they hate women and “cancel culture”.

Has anyone seen gas prices go down? It’s only gone down $0.30/gallon where I am. It’s still more than $1.00/gallon compared to February prices, but I’m having doubts about it getting any better due to USA and Israel ignoring the conditions of the ceasefire.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on April 11, 2026, 08:09:44 AM
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Welp, fuck Eric Swalwell
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I had to look it up. He sexually assaulted at least four women:
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c20qg3g9554o

He’s trying to paint it as a smear tactic by other candidates or the Republican party, despite the fact that his accusers are former staff members.

As much as I hate both parties [for different reasons], Democrats at least vocally oppose abusers in their party, while Republicans increase their support for abusers running for office because they hate women and “cancel culture”.

Has anyone seen gas prices go down? It’s only gone down $0.30/gallon where I am. It’s still more than $1.00/gallon compared to February prices, but I’m having doubts about it getting any better due to USA and Israel ignoring the conditions of the ceasefire.


Yeah his support has abandoned him and encouraged him to drop out.   I guess in theory I want Katie Porter, though I think I liked her better as a Congresswoman of either chamber.  I liked Mike Mahan too (mayor of San Jose) but a little sketched out by who supports him (silicon valley, rich guys)
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on April 11, 2026, 08:25:10 AM
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I had to look it up. He sexually assaulted at least four women:
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c20qg3g9554o

He’s trying to paint it as a smear tactic by other candidates or the Republican party, despite the fact that his accusers are former staff members.

As much as I hate both parties [for different reasons], Democrats at least vocally oppose abusers in their party, while Republicans increase their support for abusers running for office because they hate women and “cancel culture”.

Has anyone seen gas prices go down? It’s only gone down $0.30/gallon where I am. It’s still more than $1.00/gallon compared to February prices, but I’m having doubts about it getting any better due to USA and Israel ignoring the conditions of the ceasefire.
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Yeah his support has abandoned him and encouraged him to drop out.   I guess in theory I want Katie Porter, though I think I liked her better as a Congresswoman of either chamber.  I liked Mike Mahan too (mayor of San Jose) but a little sketched out by who supports him (silicon valley, rich guys)

This is the story Dems need to tell — when someone from the Dems is credibly accused of sexual assault by multiple women, we believe the victims. Swalwell lost support and donors over night.

Republicans on the other hand? Well, they would’ve doubled down on support and smeared the victims at the same time.

The parties are NOT the same.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Rusty Shackleford on April 11, 2026, 04:59:40 PM
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Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Rusty Shackleford on April 12, 2026, 08:02:58 AM
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I saw this in the seinfeld subreddit...vanB boy
but in all seriousness
'the secretary of state attending a ufc event while wartime diplomatic negotiations fail would generate an explosive front-page above-the-fold headline for ANY previous administration'
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Allen. on April 12, 2026, 08:46:42 AM
Not surprised that he’s throwing up a white power symbol also. Yay.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on April 12, 2026, 09:30:14 AM
Negotiations off to a great start. You can't kill the global economy if I kill it first.

(https://i.ibb.co/whCprK5m/Screenshot-2026-04-12-at-9-19-06-AM.png)

Yet another pump and dump for the inner circle. The stock market bump last week was wild, Monday is going to be a bloodbath, but that's ok, cause a few days later the blockade will be off and it'll pump again.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on April 12, 2026, 11:20:56 AM
Not surprised that he’s throwing up a white power symbol also. Yay.

Normally, I would say yes it is, but in this case he’s throwing up the Miami 305 (area code) hand sign. I’ve seen people from Miami throw this up.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: brycickle on April 12, 2026, 11:56:08 AM
My wife was telling me about TACO trading last night, which is so perfect.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on April 12, 2026, 03:11:29 PM
Orban lost
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on April 12, 2026, 10:02:56 PM
LOL. Trump called the Pope a weak liberal then proceeded to post an AI photo of him as Jesus.

Wonder what kind of mental gymnastics Catholics are going to have to do in order to defend and continue to support TACO God?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on April 13, 2026, 12:59:25 AM
LOL. Trump called the Pope a weak liberal then proceeded to post an AI photo of him as Jesus.

Wonder what kind of mental gymnastics Catholics are going to have to do in order to defend and continue to support TACO God?

I think we are going to watch Alt-Catholicism (Neo-Fundamentalist Catholicism) start in America. It is going to center an angry, vengeful, disciplinary God.

Pretty sure that Burke guy hated Francis and plenty of right-wing Catholic media/rich guys will support a version of Catholicism that supports vengeance, intolerance, and domination of others.

"Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys."

Also, the return of Latin masses should be terrifying to us all. Some of these people who really disagree with the Pope want to return to a church where they can't understand the mass and they have to rely on the priest for everything. This scares me as it signals they seem to desire a spiritual world where they lose all control, ability to verify, and participate. They seem to take comfort in the "authority" of words they can't comprehend by a man they can't verify and then accuse science, data, and things they can (to a degree) investigate and verify themselves as lies. The truth is not what they can understand or engage with, but what they cannot understand or engage with. Actively rejecting the opportunity to understand your own religion for the sake of "tradition" seems absurd/terrifying to me.

Basically, all the reforms of 60s should be reversed and the reasoning for the reforms were wrong.

It'll suck if America is the birthplace of Alt-Catholicism (Neo-Fundamentalist Catholicism), but I wouldn't be surprised. Why believe some boring old Pope when you can believe some random 22 year old on YouTube or AM radio who is ranting that woke-ism is making you soft, weak, and easily led. Only Betas listen to the Pope in a language they can understand and think about what they're being told. Instead, you should be listening to a guy speak words you can't understand, believe his interpretation of those words without verification, and then donate 5% of your income to the parish.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: S. on April 13, 2026, 05:08:53 AM
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LOL. Trump called the Pope a weak liberal then proceeded to post an AI photo of him as Jesus.

Wonder what kind of mental gymnastics Catholics are going to have to do in order to defend and continue to support TACO God?
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I think we are going to watch Alt-Catholicism (Neo-Fundamentalist Catholicism) start in America. It is going to center an angry, vengeful, disciplinary God.

Pretty sure that Burke guy hated Francis and plenty of right-wing Catholic media/rich guys will support a version of Catholicism that supports vengeance, intolerance, and domination of others.

"Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys."

Also, the return of Latin masses should be terrifying to us all. Some of these people who really disagree with the Pope want to return to a church where they can't understand the mass and they have to rely on the priest for everything. This scares me as it signals they seem to desire a spiritual world where they lose all control, ability to verify, and participate. They seem to take comfort in the "authority" of words they can't comprehend by a man they can't verify and then accuse science, data, and things they can (to a degree) investigate and verify themselves as lies. The truth is not what they can understand or engage with, but what they cannot understand or engage with. Actively rejecting the opportunity to understand your own religion for the sake of "tradition" seems absurd/terrifying to me.

Basically, all the reforms of 60s should be reversed and the reasoning for the reforms were wrong.

It'll suck if America is the birthplace of Alt-Catholicism (Neo-Fundamentalist Catholicism), but I wouldn't be surprised. Why believe some boring old Pope when you can believe some random 22 year old on YouTube or AM radio who is ranting that woke-ism is making you soft, weak, and easily led. Only Betas listen to the Pope in a language they can understand and think about what they're being told. Instead, you should be listening to a guy speak words you can't understand, believe his interpretation of those words without verification, and then donate 5% of your income to the parish.


This version of Catholicism already exists in different forms.

The Pius Brotherhood (still within current Catholicism)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Society_of_Saint_Pius_X

Sedevacantism (sects separated from Catholicism)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sedevacantism

Mainstream American Catholicism is for the most part already much more conservative than European Catholicism.


 
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Post by: TastyBurrito on April 13, 2026, 06:12:33 AM
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Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on April 13, 2026, 07:10:47 AM
LOL. Just saw this. Their latest double-down is questioning the Pope’s knowledge of THE FUCKING BIBLE!

(https://i.postimg.cc/15CYY5j3/IMG-5386.jpg)
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: scab on April 13, 2026, 07:27:34 AM
Making the Catholic church look like the good guys is elite dumbassery.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on April 13, 2026, 07:40:52 AM
So, for the record, as of this morning, MAGA has this:
(https://i.postimg.cc/y8Sh7Vvr/IMG-5384.jpg)


And liberals have this:
(https://i.postimg.cc/C1vnjtcm/IMG-5387.jpg)

And I’m okay with it.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: h00man on April 13, 2026, 11:49:30 AM
trump is legit the anti-christ and I'm an atheist
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: alien porkchop on April 13, 2026, 12:26:39 PM
trump is legit the anti-christ and I'm an atheist

back when obama was running for office i was talking with a friend of mine who is really entrenched in esoteric biblical lore. i mentioned how i was seeing a surge in claims that obama was the antichrist, and she matter of factly said, “no, obama is the predecessor to the antichrist”. i sort of interpreted it as meaning he was the precursor, or catalyst for the coming of the antichrist. and while i am not religious in that way, i often think back to the apparent clarity and foresight she had in making that claim.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: S. on April 13, 2026, 01:30:26 PM
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back when obama was running for office i was talking with a friend of mine who is really entrenched in esoteric biblical lore. i mentioned how i was seeing a surge in claims that obama was the antichrist, and she matter of factly said, “no, obama is the predecessor to the antichrist”. i sort of interpreted it as meaning he was the precursor, or catalyst for the coming of the antichrist. and while i am not religious in that way, i often think back to the apparent clarity and foresight she had in making that claim.

Many Christians, especially evangelical Christians, have this weird obsession with the apocalypse. It isn’t discussed as frequently as Christian morals or values, because it is much more vague. As I understand it the Bible contains quite a few stories about how the world will end. The gist:

The Apocalypse – the end of the world - Salvation in Christianity ...According to Christianity, the world ends with the Second Coming of Jesus Christ, marking the final judgment, the defeat of evil, and the creation of a new heaven and earth. This apocalyptic event, often linked to prophecies in Revelation, involves tribulations, the battle of Armageddon, and the establishment of God's eternal kingdom.

Basically the world needs to end first for Christ to come back and the forces of evil or chaos will bring that about (the anti-christ). So basically anything that you as a Christian feel is chaotic or against god‘s Devine order can be the anti-christ: trans kids, weird art at the Olympic Opening ceremony, a black president etc. can all be interpreted as signs of the anti-christ.


It‘s basically Christian fascism.

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: pugmaster on April 13, 2026, 04:42:27 PM
So, for the record, as of this morning, MAGA has this:
(https://i.postimg.cc/y8Sh7Vvr/IMG-5384.jpg)


And liberals have this:
(https://i.postimg.cc/C1vnjtcm/IMG-5387.jpg)

And I’m okay with it.

I feel like the ai photo is more of the same "flood the zone" strategy, just giving the news enough to talk about so they do not talk about epstein files and all the other fuckery.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on April 13, 2026, 04:52:05 PM
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back when obama was running for office i was talking with a friend of mine who is really entrenched in esoteric biblical lore. i mentioned how i was seeing a surge in claims that obama was the antichrist, and she matter of factly said, “no, obama is the predecessor to the antichrist”. i sort of interpreted it as meaning he was the precursor, or catalyst for the coming of the antichrist. and while i am not religious in that way, i often think back to the apparent clarity and foresight she had in making that claim.
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Many Christians, especially evangelical Christians, have this weird obsession with the apocalypse. It isn’t discussed as frequently as Christian morals or values, because it is much more vague. As I understand it the Bible contains quite a few stories about how the world will end. The gist:

The Apocalypse – the end of the world - Salvation in Christianity ...According to Christianity, the world ends with the Second Coming of Jesus Christ, marking the final judgment, the defeat of evil, and the creation of a new heaven and earth. This apocalyptic event, often linked to prophecies in Revelation, involves tribulations, the battle of Armageddon, and the establishment of God's eternal kingdom.

Basically the world needs to end first for Christ to come back and the forces of evil or chaos will bring that about (the anti-christ). So basically anything that you as a Christian feel is chaotic or against god‘s Devine order can be the anti-christ: trans kids, weird art at the Olympic Opening ceremony, a black president etc. can all be interpreted as signs of the anti-christ.


It‘s basically Christian fascism.


I don’t know about that last paragraph, but mostly what you’re describing is dispensational eschatology which is where the Rapture and Left Behind books get their Dan Brown view of religion.   You’re correct it’s mostly an evangelical thing.   I took Biblical Literature classes at Christian college and my NT class proved as much as you could that Revelation/Antichrist were coded warnings about Roman Emperors since John was writing from prison.   666 is gematria for NeroCaesar in Greek (adding up all the greek letter values gets you that number) and the footnote “or 616” refers to those same values in Latin (may have the languages skipped.  The death of the Antichrist and its return has clues that signal pretty strongly John’s referencing Domition who many saw as the return of Nero (literally and bc of his cruelty) and the book is full of warnings (for then) present-day Christians and not some treasure hunt for people 2000 years from now as the final chapter of a book they had no idea would ever exist or be apart of.   

I’d say most normal Christian’s ideas of the end of times are just absorbed culturally and they might not necessarily believe it .   Second Coming is likely something the know and the phrase Armageddon is known but not that it references a specific battle.   Antichrist probably has more of a horror movie thought to it than as some actual figure coming to presage the end of times because I would say the average Christian doesn’t really put much thought into the whole thing
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: S. on April 14, 2026, 02:02:55 AM
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back when obama was running for office i was talking with a friend of mine who is really entrenched in esoteric biblical lore. i mentioned how i was seeing a surge in claims that obama was the antichrist, and she matter of factly said, “no, obama is the predecessor to the antichrist”. i sort of interpreted it as meaning he was the precursor, or catalyst for the coming of the antichrist. and while i am not religious in that way, i often think back to the apparent clarity and foresight she had in making that claim.
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Many Christians, especially evangelical Christians, have this weird obsession with the apocalypse. It isn’t discussed as frequently as Christian morals or values, because it is much more vague. As I understand it the Bible contains quite a few stories about how the world will end. The gist:

The Apocalypse – the end of the world - Salvation in Christianity ...According to Christianity, the world ends with the Second Coming of Jesus Christ, marking the final judgment, the defeat of evil, and the creation of a new heaven and earth. This apocalyptic event, often linked to prophecies in Revelation, involves tribulations, the battle of Armageddon, and the establishment of God's eternal kingdom.

Basically the world needs to end first for Christ to come back and the forces of evil or chaos will bring that about (the anti-christ). So basically anything that you as a Christian feel is chaotic or against god‘s Devine order can be the anti-christ: trans kids, weird art at the Olympic Opening ceremony, a black president etc. can all be interpreted as signs of the anti-christ.


It‘s basically Christian fascism.
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I don’t know about that last paragraph, but mostly what you’re describing is dispensational eschatology which is where the Rapture and Left Behind books get their Dan Brown view of religion.   You’re correct it’s mostly an evangelical thing.   I took Biblical Literature classes at Christian college and my NT class proved as much as you could that Revelation/Antichrist were coded warnings about Roman Emperors since John was writing from prison.   666 is gematria for NeroCaesar in Greek (adding up all the greek letter values gets you that number) and the footnote “or 616” refers to those same values in Latin (may have the languages skipped.  The death of the Antichrist and its return has clues that signal pretty strongly John’s referencing Domition who many saw as the return of Nero (literally and bc of his cruelty) and the book is full of warnings (for then) present-day Christians and not some treasure hunt for people 2000 years from now as the final chapter of a book they had no idea would ever exist or be apart of.   

I’d say most normal Christian’s ideas of the end of times are just absorbed culturally and they might not necessarily believe it .   Second Coming is likely something the know and the phrase Armageddon is known but not that it references a specific battle.   Antichrist probably has more of a horror movie thought to it than as some actual figure coming to presage the end of times because I would say the average Christian doesn’t really put much thought into the whole thing


Thanks. You obviously know more about Christianity than me.

Why I have called it Christian fascism:

Psychologically fascism is fairly simple. It is an extreme hatred and physical disgust of “the other“ and of things that are assumed to be chaotic.

This applies to internal and external forces. You also repress your own inner chaos by using extreme discipline and projecting chaos on those things that you do not understand. To become a real traditional man you literally have to “Conquer you inner Bitch“. You have to fight your “female side“ (you know those annoying soft feelings that make you feel vulnerable).

So at the same time in Society a strong order and hierarchies are seen as the only thing that can save us from the ever increasing chaos that is always threatening us and the natural order. To right wing American Christians the natural order is usually assumed to be traditional white evangelical Christianity (White America as the city upon a hill, as the promised land) and anything that threatens this order is the anti-christ or a sign of the anti-christ. At the same time there seems to be a weird desire for chaos and the apocalypse so Christ can finally return and re-establish this Devine order.

This connects perfectly to Trumps political strategy, which is always to cause chaos and at the same time to present himself as the strongman, who is the only force the can return order. That’s why they are doing the ice raids, that’s why they did DOGE and that’s why they are constantly flooding the zone with shit, while trying to always expand the power of the president. It is a deliberate strategy.

To many rightwing Christians Trump IS Christ, because he represents all their hopes of “returning“ to the natural order (a white America without all the weird LGBTQ stuff and with Christian family values) they so desire. He fights the evil forces of the anti-christ for them.


Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
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back when obama was running for office i was talking with a friend of mine who is really entrenched in esoteric biblical lore. i mentioned how i was seeing a surge in claims that obama was the antichrist, and she matter of factly said, “no, obama is the predecessor to the antichrist”. i sort of interpreted it as meaning he was the precursor, or catalyst for the coming of the antichrist. and while i am not religious in that way, i often think back to the apparent clarity and foresight she had in making that claim.
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Many Christians, especially evangelical Christians, have this weird obsession with the apocalypse. It isn’t discussed as frequently as Christian morals or values, because it is much more vague. As I understand it the Bible contains quite a few stories about how the world will end. The gist:

The Apocalypse – the end of the world - Salvation in Christianity ...According to Christianity, the world ends with the Second Coming of Jesus Christ, marking the final judgment, the defeat of evil, and the creation of a new heaven and earth. This apocalyptic event, often linked to prophecies in Revelation, involves tribulations, the battle of Armageddon, and the establishment of God's eternal kingdom.

Basically the world needs to end first for Christ to come back and the forces of evil or chaos will bring that about (the anti-christ). So basically anything that you as a Christian feel is chaotic or against god‘s Devine order can be the anti-christ: trans kids, weird art at the Olympic Opening ceremony, a black president etc. can all be interpreted as signs of the anti-christ.


It‘s basically Christian fascism.
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I don’t know about that last paragraph, but mostly what you’re describing is dispensational eschatology which is where the Rapture and Left Behind books get their Dan Brown view of religion.   You’re correct it’s mostly an evangelical thing.   I took Biblical Literature classes at Christian college and my NT class proved as much as you could that Revelation/Antichrist were coded warnings about Roman Emperors since John was writing from prison.   666 is gematria for NeroCaesar in Greek (adding up all the greek letter values gets you that number) and the footnote “or 616” refers to those same values in Latin (may have the languages skipped.  The death of the Antichrist and its return has clues that signal pretty strongly John’s referencing Domition who many saw as the return of Nero (literally and bc of his cruelty) and the book is full of warnings (for then) present-day Christians and not some treasure hunt for people 2000 years from now as the final chapter of a book they had no idea would ever exist or be apart of.   

I’d say most normal Christian’s ideas of the end of times are just absorbed culturally and they might not necessarily believe it .   Second Coming is likely something the know and the phrase Armageddon is known but not that it references a specific battle.   Antichrist probably has more of a horror movie thought to it than as some actual figure coming to presage the end of times because I would say the average Christian doesn’t really put much thought into the whole thing
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Thanks. You obviously know more about Christianity than me.

Why I have called it Christian fascism:

Psychologically fascism is fairly simple. It is an extreme hatred and physical disgust of “the other“ and of things that are assumed to be chaotic.

This applies to internal and external forces. You also repress your own inner chaos by using extreme discipline and projecting chaos on those things that you do not understand. To become a real traditional man you literally have to “Conquer you inner Bitch“. You have to fight your “female side“ (you know those annoying soft feelings that make you feel vulnerable).

So at the same time in Society a strong order and hierarchies are seen as the only thing that can save us from the ever increasing chaos that is always threatening us and the natural order. To right wing American Christians the natural order is usually assumed to be traditional white evangelical Christianity (White America as the city upon a hill, as the promised land) and anything that threatens this order is the anti-christ or a sign of the anti-christ. At the same time there seems to be a weird desire for chaos and the apocalypse so Christ can finally return and re-establish this Devine order.

This connects perfectly to Trumps political strategy, which is always to cause chaos and at the same time to present himself as the strongman, who is the only force the can return order. That’s why they are doing the ice raids, that’s why they did DOGE and that’s why they are constantly flooding the zone with shit, while trying to always expand the power of the president. It is a deliberate strategy.

To many rightwing Christians Trump IS Christ, because he represents all their hopes of “returning“ to the natural order (a white America without all the weird LGBTQ stuff and with Christian family values) they so desire. He fights the evil forces of the anti-christ for them.


Oh I don’t disagree with the Christian Fascism label at all and I think you’ve nailed it.   Exclusivity is key.  Exclusivity of being a Christian.  Exclusivity of being a an American.  One of their key phrases you see invading IG is Jesus is King.  I was just kinda show a differentiation between extremist beliefs and standard Christian belief which don’t have a lot of beliefs but more feelings about stuff, if that makes sense.   They aren’t thinking about stuff most of the time, but can have an emotional response if presented with a certain topic. 
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Post by: LB on April 14, 2026, 03:35:24 AM
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im not a god botherer but this article freaked me out with the paralels

https://www.benjaminlcorey.com/could-american-evangelicals-spot-the-antichrist-heres-the-biblical-predictions/
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Willie on April 14, 2026, 06:57:21 PM
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im not a god botherer but this article freaked me out with the paralels

https://www.benjaminlcorey.com/could-american-evangelicals-spot-the-antichrist-heres-the-biblical-predictions/
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Wow! That’s uncanny.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on April 21, 2026, 07:01:41 PM
Thrilled that the IRS is likely going to give Trump billions. His family hasn't grifted enough. They need our tax dollars.
https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/trump-irs-talks-settle-us-presidents-10-billion-lawsuit-2026-04-17/

The Southern Poverty Law Center is under attack.
https://www.npr.org/2026/04/21/g-s1-118275/southern-poverty-law-center-fraud-charges-paid-informants

Expectedly, we are screwing over the people who risked their lives to support the USA's (misguided) mission in Afghanistan
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/21/world/europe/afghan-refugees-congo-us.html
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on April 21, 2026, 08:18:18 PM
Ah the old ‘Make some shit up and charge them!’ tactics with the SPLC.

Oh it’s Tuesday so it’s TACO time!

(https://i.postimg.cc/nL2KsZTD/IMG-6781.png) (https://postimg.cc/cKKtjppx)

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/us-positive-iran-deal-talks-still-uncertain-ceasefire-end-nears-2026-04-21/
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on April 22, 2026, 11:22:03 AM
Getting a kick out of watching every MAGA politician and influencer complain about the Virginia vote passing the new districts.

The funny thing is they're not condemning gerrymandering in general or supporting the bill that will outright ban gerrymandering, they're condemning Democrats doing what they did while also doing it in a democratic way.

So they're making it clear, they're for gerrymandering, but only when they do it.

UPDATE: Surprise, surprise -- A Virginia right-wing judge just decertified the election results from last night, voiding every ballot cast yesterday, claiming the bill was unconstitutional.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Chalupa on April 22, 2026, 03:48:19 PM
People vote for shit and it’s deemed unlawful. Governors and AGs in red states pass redistricting measures without voters’ approval, and it’s considered legal. If the vote is ever in Republicans’ favor, the party of “law and order” would never contest it regardless of how many laws are broken. Anyone who thinks America is a democracy is a fucking idiot.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on April 22, 2026, 04:08:55 PM
People vote for shit and it’s deemed unlawful. Governors and AGs in red states pass redistricting measures without voters’ approval, and it’s considered legal. If the vote is ever in Republicans’ favor, the party of “law and order” would never contest it regardless of how many laws are broken. Anyone who thinks America is a democracy is a fucking idiot.

The crazy thing is the Texas SC denied the maps because it was deemed racially discriminatory (which it was). So when SCOTUS ruled on the Texas redistricting battle, the stay was granted based not on the defense of the maps being discriminatory, but that the intervention is happening too close to a primary election cycle. SCOTUS MAGA knew the maps were illegal but let them stay on a "technicality" of timing.

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: pugmaster on April 22, 2026, 08:56:05 PM
Id be surprised as hell if the midterms occur.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Chalupa on April 23, 2026, 06:24:03 AM
This is the guy who calls people “low-IQ individuals.”
(https://i.postimg.cc/qMkm6SJm/IMG-4235.jpg)

Also, I hate the faux outrage from Republicans pretending to care about Iran executing people. Where are their voices when cops shoot unarmed black people in the back of the head? They didn’t even condemn the US strike on a girls’ school. Iran doesn’t have the right to execute people because the US has the right to bomb them. Conservatism is hypocrisy for people who treat real life like a game of Monopoly.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Jehoshaphat Augustus on April 23, 2026, 11:41:32 AM
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Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on April 23, 2026, 12:38:03 PM
Republicans in the oversight committee want to pardon Ghislane Maxwell.

How the fuck is that even on the table?!
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: pugmaster on April 23, 2026, 03:59:58 PM
At this point I wouldn't be surprised if she becomes the secretary of education after McMahon gets fired.

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Chalupa on April 23, 2026, 04:47:21 PM
Republicans in the oversight committee want to pardon Ghislane Maxwell.

How the fuck is that even on the table?!

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In her interview, Maxwell said she “absolutely never” saw Trump behave inappropriately with anyone in Epstein’s circle and praised the president for his “extraordinary achievement in becoming the president now.” She also said she “liked him.”
She lied throughout her trials/hearings and repeatedly plead the 5th but this is apparently the truth which has nothing to do with getting a pardon…

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQbJCX3cMTh-K7qSDxWtgHA9zYNjUYqrUfGhzHh4p5SMw&s=10)
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on April 23, 2026, 06:00:57 PM
And the reporting on this is atrocious. With places like Washington Post and shit saying, “Half of the member of congress in the oversight committee…”

It’s always “congress” when Republicans are doing something heinous, but when they want to blame Democrats for something, they call out “Democrats.”
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Lenny the Fatface on April 25, 2026, 07:46:09 PM
Trying to watch the Timberwolves games and learned that another person tried to kill Trump…would really like to watch this Timberwolves game.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on April 25, 2026, 07:47:49 PM
Trying to watch the Timberwolves games and learned that another person tried to kill Trump…would really like to watch this Timberwolves game.

 Fucking DC is 1-2 with these things, only managed to get the best president and leave the worst two

What’s crazy about all these attempts is I would have expected this kind of shit under Obama bc of all the racists, but maybe they were just a lot better at preventing shit then
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: alien porkchop on April 25, 2026, 08:52:39 PM
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 Fucking DC is 1-2 with these things, only managed to get the best president and leave the worst two

What’s crazy about all these attempts is I would have expected this kind of shit under Obama bc of all the racists, but maybe they were just a lot better at preventing shit then

maybe the racists weren’t as put out as they claimed
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on April 25, 2026, 11:43:55 PM
I'm not stoked on this. Personal vendettas and lone wolf kooks are not replacements for justice. Trump needs to face a fair trial not be attacked by some dipshit with a half-baked Rambo plan.

These attempts are bad for all of us. They create potential for innocent people to get hurt, weaken the right's ownership of domestic terrorism, ratchet up already tense feeling the States, they create sympathy for a callous, corrupt, and dangerous president, and the NYTimes photo from the attempt in Butler, PA is a powerful photo (it doesn't matter if the bullet grazed his ear or he was scraped in the dog pile after), it is a powerful photo. And the Butler, PA attempt took the life of someone in the audience.

Also, what did this guy think he was going to do? Ninja warrior his way past the Secret Service? How did he think this had any chance of working?

The news is reporting he was a tutor for a standardized testing center. I wonder if he cracked after being broke as fuck despite knowing he is technically capable. I think to get the job at one of those SAT prep, MCAT prep, or whatever centers you have to score insanely high on the test yourself.

Edit: The attempted shooter published a game on Steam years ago. The preview video for this game makes me feel sad. It is just so nerdy, awkward, and likely represents so much effort. I wonder the backstory is going to be for this guy. I imagine super depressing.   
https://store.steampowered.com/app/945530/Bohrdom
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: AnimalChinaski79 on April 26, 2026, 04:55:51 AM
You guys believe this shit?  More staged theatrical bullshit from the Pedo in Chief.   How do you fall for this shit?
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Post by: The real veganshawn on April 26, 2026, 05:53:41 AM
Another fake attempt
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Post by: The Huffer on April 26, 2026, 05:57:18 AM
Another fake attempt

You guys believe this shit?  More staged theatrical bullshit from the Pedo in Chief.   How do you fall for this shit?

It could be but you are basing this on what?

Not useful to jump straight to conspiracy mode, so soon.
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Post by: JANUS on April 26, 2026, 06:36:25 AM
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It could be but you are basing this on what?

Not useful to jump straight to conspiracy mode, so soon.

True, but it does seem incredibly convenient given his desire to make that gaudy ballroom.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Emo jimmy on April 26, 2026, 08:03:44 AM
Not buying it at all, authoritive regime playbook bullshit

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Lenny the Fatface on April 26, 2026, 08:12:17 AM
You guys believe this shit?  More staged theatrical bullshit from the Pedo in Chief.   How do you fall for this shit?

Not a big conspiracy dude, but it’s hilarious that the alleged shooter looks juuuuust black enough for his race to be debatable. S tier engagement farming if fake.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Chalupa on April 26, 2026, 08:39:37 AM
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Another fake attempt
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You guys believe this shit?  More staged theatrical bullshit from the Pedo in Chief.   How do you fall for this shit?
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It could be but you are basing this on what?

Not useful to jump straight to conspiracy mode, so soon.
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True, but it does seem incredibly convenient given his desire to make that gaudy ballroom.
None of the Twitter grifters expressed concern for Trump. The regurgitated message was that the ballroom needs to be built to prevent this from happening again.

The only thing I’m surprised about is that the media isn’t saying he had a Quran in his car or is on hormones. Maybe, they’ll “find” Quran verses engraved on his bullets by the end of the week.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Emo jimmy on April 26, 2026, 09:34:52 AM
These dudes living on fucking military bases because theyre so unpopular but im supposed to believe the incredibly lax security for this event was normal?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on April 26, 2026, 10:56:50 AM
Ok, for those who think this is fake, please walk me through how this was all set up.

Walk me through how they recruited him to give up his entire life for Trump without anyone else knowing. Or walk me through how this was planned out for over a decade, from the the sad steam game, working at the test prep center for years, to what happens now? He pretends to go to prison but really gets to spend the rest of his life hanging out on Epstein Island?

If you think it is fake don't explain just the time from check-in at the Hilton to being tackled a floor away from the ballroom, explain the last 7 years and the next 10 years. I don't see how it adds up. Much easier to believe sad dude thinks he is going to change history with a really stupid plan and gets arrested not even on the same floor as his target.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on April 26, 2026, 11:13:10 AM
I don’t think it’s fake - it’s just odd these events happen at the nadirs of trumps popularity.   I don’t see how this one would do anything past giving his numbers a brief bump because the kitchen table issues are still hurting most Americans
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: JANUS on April 26, 2026, 02:38:34 PM
Yeah, the simplest explanation is sad man got big mad, but all I’m saying is it sure seems awfully convenient.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Dj Paul on April 26, 2026, 03:53:45 PM
My question is, why this shooter didnt get sifted?

Seems like Trump knows the north americans and the rest of the world needs a show per week, so he keep putting mist on Epstein files case.

Its more easy than you thing to recruit people for this type of operation when you can cop some schizophrenic dude or another mental issues in the streets to make this type of shit.

Just search for Adelio, the man who tried kill a brazlian right far politic Jair bolsonaro. Right after, Adelio was  was diagnosed with mental issues.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: AnimalChinaski79 on April 27, 2026, 02:13:51 AM
Why would you believe a pathological lying administration of degenerates,  child molesters, and sociopaths?  Cut me a break.  Fucking guy is a lying con artist piece of shit but lets take his word for it.  This is some Fox News level of stupidity.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Billy Bitchcakes on April 27, 2026, 05:07:10 AM
@AnimalChinaski79 answer this bit though

If you think it is fake don't explain just the time from check-in at the Hilton to being tackled a floor away from the ballroom, explain the last 7 years and the next 10 years. I don't see how it adds up. Much easier to believe sad dude thinks he is going to change history with a really stupid plan and gets arrested not even on the same floor as his target.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: JANUS on April 27, 2026, 05:24:53 AM
@AnimalChinaski79 answer this bit though

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If you think it is fake don't explain just the time from check-in at the Hilton to being tackled a floor away from the ballroom, explain the last 7 years and the next 10 years. I don't see how it adds up. Much easier to believe sad dude thinks he is going to change history with a really stupid plan and gets arrested not even on the same floor as his target.
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Again, not saying I believe it one way or the other, but my guess would be that the last 10 or so years are exactly the same as stated, but when the sad man got big mad, he saved his manifesto to the cloud, or asked chatgpt to help him write it, or just got overheard by his cell phone while practicing his Robert DeNiro tough guy mirror talk. Then the intelligence community got a hold of it, sent it to the secret service so they were ready for him, but let it look chaotic for the cameras to drum up some sympathy and support. But again, just playing devil’s advocate, I don’t really care. The simplest explanation is still that the sad man got big mad at the huge jerk. People really hate that jerk.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Dj Paul on April 27, 2026, 05:49:15 AM
www.instagram.com/p/DXmVAaUE81v/
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on April 27, 2026, 03:58:07 PM
Ok, for those who think this is fake, please walk me through how this was all set up.

Walk me through how they recruited him to give up his entire life for Trump without anyone else knowing. Or walk me through how this was planned out for over a decade, from the the sad steam game, working at the test prep center for years, to what happens now? He pretends to go to prison but really gets to spend the rest of his life hanging out on Epstein Island?

If you think it is fake don't explain just the time from check-in at the Hilton to being tackled a floor away from the ballroom, explain the last 7 years and the next 10 years. I don't see how it adds up. Much easier to believe sad dude thinks he is going to change history with a really stupid plan and gets arrested not even on the same floor as his target.


I think (like the guys who got arrested for the MI gov kidnapping plot) you have government people egging people who fit a profile

http://youtu.be/LqwJFuntco4?si=xfO0_Ha_UtAM7a2r
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on April 27, 2026, 04:32:00 PM
I get the deep distrust of this administration (and the security institutions in the States that have done some sketchy shit over the years), but it is hard to couple the deep incompetence of Trump, Kash, Hegseth, and the rest of the clowns with the ability to master plan this without anyone catching on. Like, Stalin, Trump has bet on the stupid and loyal rather than the competent across all parts of the executive branch.

I also get the idea that Trump's low ratings would create the motivation to boost him somehow. But, many people disapproving of him coupled with the overt corruption of those around him and ICE's overt cruelty (including the killing of Americans) increases the odds someone is going to think they can play the hero by doing something insanely stupid. More disapproval = more people (including people who are more likely to do stupid shit) and reinforcement of the thought "something has to be done."

It is sad that America has gotten to the point where everything is a conspiracy.

And, I can't say I've been great at avoiding all conspiracies. I often mistake Trump's incompetence when it comes to world events that affect the market and as purposeful pump and dumps for the market. Those around him are certainly benefiting of his idiocy, but I don't think he plans it out. He isn't good at planning.

The tariffs going back to the big companies, not a plan, but the result of pure bravado and incompetence. Announcements on Iran that affect the market, incompetence, time zone differences, etc. TACO tariffs, bravado, idiocy, and impulsiveness buttressed by a N Korea style cabinet full of people willing to wear shoes that are 3 sizes to big for them.



Crazy that Idaho and Wyoming view Trump more positively than other state. What are they so excited about? The privatization of federal land?
https://www.economist.com/interactive/trump-approval-tracker
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on April 27, 2026, 07:38:59 PM
This pretty much sums up that little Nazi troll perfectly:
(https://i.postimg.cc/Y0HXcszD/IMG-6795.png) (https://postimg.cc/MM90Vt41)
Nothing wrong with using your pregnant wife as a shield while copping a feel in the process.
IRAN, look how easy it would be to take out our government leaders! Open fucking season!
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: alien porkchop on April 27, 2026, 09:52:18 PM
This pretty much sums up that little Nazi troll perfectly:
(https://i.postimg.cc/Y0HXcszD/IMG-6795.png) (https://postimg.cc/MM90Vt41)
Nothing wrong with using your pregnant wife as a shield while copping a feel in the process.
IRAN, look how easy it would be to take out our government leaders! Open fucking season!

is that photoshopped or does he really have a baby hand? nazi ass baby hand piece of shit if you ask me.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on April 28, 2026, 12:19:22 AM
Miller is a horrible person, but I think this is just bad a angle.

RFJ Jr on the other hand, seems to not give a fuck about Cheryl Hines. RFK Jr and his team left her in the dust. I wonder if Cheryl will pull from the Curb Your Enthusiasm breakup script after last night.

 4:57
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_JEZMEw_-Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O06mWLxxjKQ
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Dj Paul on April 28, 2026, 01:48:33 AM
Back In 2002 if you said that Iraq dont has  mass destruction weapons you could been called conspiracionist. Bush lied for USA to take down Saddam, but  in early 2000s americans would say: "he is your president, he dont lie".

It is becoming common knowledge that  American government had a hand in the September 11 attacks, because there are some really strange facts which are not easily explained, such as the increase in insurance by the WTC CEO. The fact that he was not in the building on the day of the attack etc.

Regarding the attack on Trump, everyone is free to believe what they want. But if it were a white man trying to enter the hall armed, it would be more acceptable. However, for a black man with Muslim traces to easily enter armed is madness.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Allen. on April 28, 2026, 03:06:54 AM
I saw loose change too, do you think CEOs are regularly clocking in?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Emo jimmy on April 28, 2026, 11:39:31 AM
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Ok, for those who think this is fake, please walk me through how this was all set up.

Walk me through how they recruited him to give up his entire life for Trump without anyone else knowing. Or walk me through how this was planned out for over a decade, from the the sad steam game, working at the test prep center for years, to what happens now? He pretends to go to prison but really gets to spend the rest of his life hanging out on Epstein Island?

If you think it is fake don't explain just the time from check-in at the Hilton to being tackled a floor away from the ballroom, explain the last 7 years and the next 10 years. I don't see how it adds up. Much easier to believe sad dude thinks he is going to change history with a really stupid plan and gets arrested not even on the same floor as his target.
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I think (like the guys who got arrested for the MI gov kidnapping plot) you have government people egging people who fit a profile

http://youtu.be/LqwJFuntco4?si=xfO0_Ha_UtAM7a2r
Basically

I can tell alot of people really just dont know what the 3 letter agencies have done and continue to do both here and abroad



Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on April 28, 2026, 05:19:05 PM
Back In 2002 if you said that Iraq dont has  mass destruction weapons you could been called conspiracionist. Bush lied for USA to take down Saddam, but  in early 2000s americans would say: "he is your president, he dont lie".

It is becoming common knowledge that  American government had a hand in the September 11 attacks, because there are some really strange facts which are not easily explained, such as the increase in insurance by the WTC CEO. The fact that he was not in the building on the day of the attack etc.

Regarding the attack on Trump, everyone is free to believe what they want. But if it were a white man trying to enter the hall armed, it would be more acceptable. However, for a black man with Muslim traces to easily enter armed is madness.

I'm going to disagree here.

I disagree that one would be called a conspiracy theorist for not believing in Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. Not true. Unpatriotic, probably; liberal pussy, likely; but the conspiracy theorist label was unlikely.

Prior to 2003, there was plenty of evidence from legitimate institutions and individuals showing that Bush, Cheney, Powell, and Rumsfeld were full of shit.

The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) and the United Nations Monitoring, Verification, and Inspections Commission (UNMOVIC) conducted more than 900 inspections at more than 500 sites. The inspectors did not find that Iraq possessed chemical or biological weapons or that it had reconstituted its nuclear weapons program. Iraq accepted rules for even stricter inspections with UN Resolution 1441 to keep the US at bay.

The non-kooks in the US government ("deep state liberal globalist UN pussy elites" in today's lingo ::) ) pushed against the narrative that Iraq was a threat w/weapons of mass destruction and that it had connections to Al-Qaeda.

I'm pretty sure it was the same idiots who pushed the idea that the USSR was responsible for all terrorism in the early 80s with little evidence--they asked people to look past the obvious motivations of the (P)IRA, Mau Mau, and others and blame it all on the USSR global terror plots--wanted to use Iraq as their boogeyman story to push their neo-con bullshit again.

https://www.nytimes.com/2002/10/24/world/threats-and-responses-a-cia-rival-pentagon-sets-up-intelligence-unit.html#:~:text=''Yes%2C%20there's%20frustration%2C,the%20domain%20of%20the%20C.I.A.

That whole war was similar to our current war attacking Iran. The same type of idiots and political ideologues pushed their feelings rather than listen the evidence provided by those liberal data crunching pussies. The key difference seems to be that Bush Jr. went on a publicity tour to sell the war to the public (along side wide spread fear caused by 9/11) and Trump just manufactured reasons to go to war after starting the war.
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The US did not allow Bin Laden to fly planes into the WTC buildings. If this was true, it would be the best kept secret ever. We couldn't keep Reagan selling bombs to Iran under wraps, we couldn't even keep nuclear secrets away from the Soviet Union, but we somehow managed to keep killing our own people with civilian planes under wraps? If the Rosenbergs were able to get nuclear secrets to the USSR and Snowden was able to expose the NSA, there is no way, 9/11 was magically comprised of the first group of humans to be able to keep a secret.

The CEO not being there is par for the course. The US president barely spends time at the White House and the rare occasion my CEO comes into one of the buildings, it makes our news feed. Only the rank and file have to RTO. 


Distrust is good, but distrusting the simplest story and coupling incompetence with omnipotent powers might not be the best way to interpret what is going on. MK-Ultra was gnarly, the government following MLK Jr around was terrible, the police setting up Leonard Peltier was crazy, the police manipulating kids with disabilities is fucked up, but just cause those fucked up things occured doesn't mean the government is able to change the weather, fake moon landings, or crash plans into buildings. The level of ability and risk involved in tricking a disabled kid into buying weed, harassing a Black socialist, poorly attempting to frame a Native American activist, etc. is no where near the level of risk of inviting a man to come to a hotel with a gun risking the lives of the sycophantic but powerful lackeys of the Trump admin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHhG9DbHbW0

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on April 28, 2026, 05:20:00 PM
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This pretty much sums up that little Nazi troll perfectly:
(https://i.postimg.cc/Y0HXcszD/IMG-6795.png) (https://postimg.cc/MM90Vt41)
Nothing wrong with using your pregnant wife as a shield while copping a feel in the process.
IRAN, look how easy it would be to take out our government leaders! Open fucking season!
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is that photoshopped or does he really have a baby hand? nazi ass baby hand piece of shit if you ask me.

Screen grab from a Reuters article so seriously doubt any photo tampering or ai slop. Tiny nazi baby hand for the tiny nazi man.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: alien porkchop on April 28, 2026, 05:31:52 PM
project for a new american century clearly documented their distaste for the architecture of tower 7. the whole thing was orchestrated to eliminate the eye sore. i mean, duh.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Jehoshaphat Augustus on April 28, 2026, 06:43:40 PM
'scammers' called this old guy for weeks all day every day and told him he was being watched and if he didn't give them money they would murder him. One day they said thats it we are coming to murder you and sent an unsuspecting UBER eats delivery person to harass this guy. He took it seriously and murdered the delivery lady who had no idea what what was going on.

https://youtu.be/NHJ2gBnZ9KM

All it took was some phone calls and some psy ops to make a  dude (even though he was old af) feel like he had to kill. The scammers were never caught. Whats to stop a govt administration who endures multiple Watergates per week from doing something like this?

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on April 29, 2026, 10:16:40 AM
RIP Voting Rights Act.

All the people who voted as a single-issue voter (abortion) for Trump all those times are responsible for the literal dismantling of the democracy of this country.

And so many of them celebrate the ability of red states to just redraw lines to add GOP seats while failing to see the irony of them protesting blue states putting up new distract maps to a vote. 
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: cum on April 29, 2026, 12:17:29 PM
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This pretty much sums up that little Nazi troll perfectly:
(https://i.postimg.cc/Y0HXcszD/IMG-6795.png) (https://postimg.cc/MM90Vt41)
Nothing wrong with using your pregnant wife as a shield while copping a feel in the process.
IRAN, look how easy it would be to take out our government leaders! Open fucking season!
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is that photoshopped or does he really have a baby hand? nazi ass baby hand piece of shit if you ask me.

my least favorite kind of nazi
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Chalupa on April 29, 2026, 02:40:28 PM
^
Someone said “emotional support titty” on IG and I can’t get that out of my mind.


The CEO not being there is par for the course. The US president barely spends time at the White House and the rare occasion my CEO comes into one of the buildings, it makes our news feed. Only the rank and file have to RTO. 
The CEO never missed breakfast except that day due to a doctor’s appointment. That and the insurance policy a couple months prior to the attack is what fuels the conspiracies.

I doubt the US sponsored the attack. There was just a lot of incompetence and opportunism from the Bush administration prior to the attack and during the war.

I don’t know about the part about Israel withholding information to get the US to attack their perceived enemies. There were those Israelis that posed as art students who bugged and mapped the buildings of intelligence agencies. That is documented, but I don’t think there’s any proof of people rigging explosives in either of the WTC buildings, despite videos being posted about it. Netanyahu was another opportunist that used the attacks to expand meddling in the Middle East, and claimed that there would be a ripple effect of peace by overthrowing the governments of Afghanistan and Iraq. Why does anyone still listen to that asshole?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on April 29, 2026, 02:50:21 PM
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Someone said “emotional support titty” on IG and I can’t get that out of my mind.

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The CEO not being there is par for the course. The US president barely spends time at the White House and the rare occasion my CEO comes into one of the buildings, it makes our news feed. Only the rank and file have to RTO. 
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The CEO never missed breakfast except that day due to a doctor’s appointment. That and the insurance policy a couple months prior to the attack is what fuels the conspiracies.

I doubt the US sponsored the attack. There was just a lot of incompetence and opportunism from the Bush administration prior to the attack and during the war.

I don’t know about the part about Israel withholding information to get the US to attack their perceived enemies. There were those Israelis that posed as art students who bugged and mapped the buildings of intelligence agencies. That is documented, but I don’t think there’s any proof of people rigging explosives in either of the WTC buildings, despite videos being posted about it. Netanyahu was another opportunist that used the attacks to expand meddling in the Middle East, and claimed that there would be a ripple effect of peace by overthrowing the governments of Afghanistan and Iraq. Why does anyone still listen to that asshole?


It’s a common conspiracy theory.   Just copy and paste from FDR let Pearl Harbor happen in order to push joining WW2
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on April 29, 2026, 07:37:04 PM
RIP Voting Rights Act.

All the people who voted as a single-issue voter (abortion) for Trump all those times are responsible for the literal dismantling of the democracy of this country.

And so many of them celebrate the ability of red states to just redraw lines to add GOP seats while failing to see the irony of them protesting blue states putting up new distract maps to a vote.

Yup. Love the fact that they went with ‘the entirety of the voting period’ as justification when they’ve always said it only counts on Election Day for literally everything else.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on April 30, 2026, 09:20:26 AM
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RIP Voting Rights Act.

All the people who voted as a single-issue voter (abortion) for Trump all those times are responsible for the literal dismantling of the democracy of this country.

And so many of them celebrate the ability of red states to just redraw lines to add GOP seats while failing to see the irony of them protesting blue states putting up new distract maps to a vote.
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Yup. Love the fact that they went with ‘the entirety of the voting period’ as justification when they’ve always said it only counts on Election Day for literally everything else.

Literally wouldn't be surprised if MAGA brought back the Three-Fifths clause to further reduce the representation of black/brown people across the nation under the guise that it's partisan rather than racist.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Eh on May 02, 2026, 11:52:54 PM
TUCKER CARLSON BREAKS WITH TRUMP.

Calling him a slave to Israel, he suggests that the Charlie Kirk murder should be investigated; he was one of two people, the other being Tucker Carlson himself, who tried to dissuade Donald Trump from invading Iran. He also denounces Mike Huckabee and Ted Cruz for Gaza while attempting to counter claims of anti-semitism.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2tpMkUCvqrs (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2tpMkUCvqrs)

 https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/02/magazine/tucker-carlson-interview-trump-iran.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/02/magazine/tucker-carlson-interview-trump-iran.html)

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Chalupa on May 03, 2026, 06:29:56 AM
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No one is going to watch two hours of Tucker. Plus, the NYT is just blatant propaganda at this point.

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT3jz_4rPcDn8w9nkjjBrglBfKUzWvfXKfcITOhhHjZqQ&s=10)

I’m just surprised there is little pushback from the military. If Iran could be conquered easily, Reagan or Bush Sr. would have done it. Republicans and tech bros aren’t even trying to hide the fact that everything they do is to increase control on resources and the wealth gap. There are probably worse things they are doing that aren’t publicly known, considering tech CEOs are building bunkers underneath mansions in Indian Creek which already has excessive protection by police.

Bootlicking for Israel becomes increasingly stupid as time goes by. I don’t get how politicians claiming Christianity have no problems with nuns getting attacked or churches/people getting spit on, but saying “Happy holidays” is an attack on Christianity. It’s almost as if they never cared about religion except to manipulate people into thinking that they were decent people…If a politician said “I’m a good person,” no one would believe them and would probably laugh. If they said “I’m a God-fearing Christian,” a bunch of idiots would clap and vote for the politician.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Eh on May 03, 2026, 11:34:23 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/N6SYr68y/IMG-0172.jpg) (https://ibb.co/FbV7XbSD)

In no way am I advocating for the NYT, but maybe you should work there.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Chalupa on May 03, 2026, 11:46:16 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/N6SYr68y/IMG-0172.jpg) (https://ibb.co/FbV7XbSD)

In no way am I advocating for the NYT, but maybe you should work there.
You really think anyone that visits this thread is going to spend two hours of their free time watching a guy who pushed the “great replacement” when there’s constantly new parts and videos from skateboarders? That’s like 20 parts or 2-4 videos.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Eh on May 03, 2026, 01:00:11 PM
You’ve likely missed at least one part based on the time it took for you to make three posts in this thread. So, possibly. And, there is a transcription in the link. It might take you half an hour to read his apology for supporting Trump, his agreement with leftists on economic issues (including OWS), and a condemnation of some evangelicals.

It’s better late than never.

if you do watch a part, return to this thread and let us know how it is. Do you think I have the time to be going back and forth between pages?

Here: only watch the last part in the recent Heroin video and keep the other 20 minutes for watching something else; maybe the first part of the interview above.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: S. on May 03, 2026, 02:16:32 PM
Even if Tucker started to speak like a true democratic socialist I couldn’t listen to him for that long. I cannot stand his voice and manner of speaking. He’s also an incredibly ignorant and stupid person.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Atiba Applebum on May 03, 2026, 03:01:01 PM
Even if Tucker started to speak like a true democratic socialist I couldn’t listen to him for that long. I cannot stand his voice and manner of speaking. He’s also an incredibly ignorant and stupid person.

And he’ll be running for president in 2028
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Baby on Board on May 03, 2026, 10:52:06 PM
In a brief glimpse of hope, ole Mayor of NY Gooliani is in Critical condition in a FL hospital.

Thoughts and prayers, loser
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Emo jimmy on May 03, 2026, 10:55:42 PM
Sometimes the enemy of your enemy is still your fucking enemy

Im not gonna fuck up my algorythm entertaining tucker carlsons pragmatically more self interested brand of white nationalism just because he suddenly decided to pretend to realize what was obvious to fucking begin with
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Eh on May 04, 2026, 01:35:22 AM
Cheers, you keep that algorithm in tact: the one manufactured with your best interest in mind.

 ;)
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: S. on May 04, 2026, 03:27:10 AM
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Even if Tucker started to speak like a true democratic socialist I couldn’t listen to him for that long. I cannot stand his voice and manner of speaking. He’s also an incredibly ignorant and stupid person.
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Yes, it seems like he’s positioning himself for a world after Trump. Trump is turning 80 soon.

A JD Vance/Tucker presidency would be horrible.

And he’ll be running for president in 2028
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Emo jimmy on May 04, 2026, 09:11:08 AM
Cheers, you keep that algorithm in tact: the one manufactured with your best interest in mind.

 ;)
Settle down tim pool
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: alien porkchop on May 04, 2026, 10:59:59 AM
Cheers, you keep that algorithm in tact: the one manufactured with your best interest in mind.

 ;)

found tucker’s alt
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Eh on May 04, 2026, 01:53:45 PM
Damn, y’all: I covered your homie’s unpersuasive retort. Then decided not to let y’all hide after stepping in. And you roll together with these faux associations.

It’s cool, go on with your very-not-unlike-Trump discursive methods: bullying, intimidation, divisiveness. No worries: it’s just e-politics in ‘26. That is, sure to resolve issues.

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on May 04, 2026, 11:12:23 PM
Is the war back on?

Missile strikes, Korean boat on fire, and Iranian boats hit, but no real market reaction yet. After hours NQ=F (Nasdaq 100) is up and so is YM=F (DOW).

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Chalupa on May 05, 2026, 07:24:19 AM
Is the war back on?

Missile strikes, Korean boat on fire, and Iranian boats hit, but no real market reaction yet. After hours NQ=F (Nasdaq 100) is up and so is YM=F (DOW).
It never stopped, and the ceasefire was purely so US/Israel could restock weapons. Republicans call it a skirmish or conflict and Israel never stopped attacking its neighbors. Trump is trying to control the strait, but the Iranian government said that their boats weren’t hit. If I had to choose between the Iranian government and a pathological-lying pedophile, I would believe Iran.

I don’t know much about the stock market, but gasoline prices went up by $1.50/gallon in my area between the last time I filled gas and yesterday. Gasoline is a necessity for most people, so high oil prices won’t affect sales that much, and most of our goods come from China, whose supply chain is probably minimally affected by the war.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on May 05, 2026, 09:23:59 AM
The "restart" of the war is also a nice distraction from Republicans trying to quietly pass a $72,000,000,000 reconciliation bill where $1,000,000,000 will be used for Trump's ballroom. You know, the one that was supposed to be paid with private donor money. Where do you think that money went all of a sudden?

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on May 05, 2026, 01:39:55 PM
We need to just tax the wealthiest people in the country. It is crazy to me how much they fight having to pitch in.

I've made barely enough to live on and more than I can live on. In the years where I was making more than I could live on, the taxes didn't even matter. Like, it doesn't matter when you have enough to live comfortably and put money into savings. It is rewarding to say that you are pitching in to support the country.

And, the math for those who are very comfortable makes taxes even less relevant.

Let's say a single person in California makes 230K per year.
Taxes:
- 72K for federal and state taxes and social Security and such
Pre-Tax Costs:
- 1500 for medical (they have a good job and good insurance)
Pre-Tax Investments
-20K in 401K
Post-Tax/Post-Pre-Tax investments: Take Home Income
-130K take home

Their take home is 10,800 a month. If we assume they are spending 7.8K for a very comfortable ass life, they have another 3K to invest each month. Their yearly invest is 46K and even if they don't decrease their tax burden by doing a backdoor Roth IRA or maxing out an FSA. Their "tax burden" will have erased from their investments in 13.9 years if we assume a favorable 7% growth.

And, this is the low-end of upper-middle class. If someone is making millions or billions each year. There is no reason this shit shouldn't be taxed to the moon. Those who run fastest or got luckiest deserve a bit more of a reward than the rest of us, but at this level of wealth it isn't material goods, it is power. It fucks up democracy.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on May 06, 2026, 11:48:39 AM
So, if Hantavirus becomes another outbreak in the US — which it will because Trump gutted the CDC, removed us from WHO, and put Mr. Brain Worms in charge of surveying pandemics — what kind of hobbies are you going to get into?

I might build a mini ramp in my garage so I can still skate as well as learn to garden.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: alien porkchop on May 06, 2026, 12:08:22 PM
So, if Hantavirus becomes another outbreak in the US — which it will because Trump gutted the CDC, removed us from WHO, and put Mr. Brain Worms in charge of surveying pandemics — what kind of hobbies are you going to get into?

I might build a mini ramp in my garage so I can still skate as well as learn to garden.

just came to post about this. trump is president and plague starts on cruise ship (again). probably nothing to be alarmed about.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on May 06, 2026, 12:57:47 PM
LOL. I have a good feeling that Juul and Altria were some of the "private donors" to Trump's ballroom.

https://abc7chicago.com/post/fda-authorizes-fruit-flavored-cigarettes-adults-major-shift-president-donald-trump/19052208/

Glad he's working hard to make sure people can get mango flavored vapes rather than, you know, finding out ways to bring down prices and prevent US soldiers from being killed.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Painted Baby on May 07, 2026, 11:37:01 AM
LOL. I have a good feeling that Juul and Altria were some of the "private donors" to Trump's ballroom.

https://abc7chicago.com/post/fda-authorizes-fruit-flavored-cigarettes-adults-major-shift-president-donald-trump/19052208/

Glad he's working hard to make sure people can get mango flavored vapes rather than, you know, finding out ways to bring down prices and prevent US soldiers from being killed.
Meanwhile, LA can't have menthol anymore. The fact that FDA of all agencies approved fruit flavored vapes reads like a fucking Onion article. Trump started this whole fruit flavored ban back in the first administration when some youts got sick from some bootleg cannabis vape oil and turned that into all flavored vapes were on purpose trying to hook and kill the teenage user base ASAP
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on May 07, 2026, 02:07:58 PM
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LOL. I have a good feeling that Juul and Altria were some of the "private donors" to Trump's ballroom.

https://abc7chicago.com/post/fda-authorizes-fruit-flavored-cigarettes-adults-major-shift-president-donald-trump/19052208/

Glad he's working hard to make sure people can get mango flavored vapes rather than, you know, finding out ways to bring down prices and prevent US soldiers from being killed.
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Meanwhile, LA can't have menthol anymore. The fact that FDA of all agencies approved fruit flavored vapes reads like a fucking Onion article. Trump started this whole fruit flavored ban back in the first administration when some youts got sick from some bootleg cannabis vape oil and turned that into all flavored vapes were on purpose trying to hook and kill the teenage user base ASAP

His Chief of Staff, Susie Wiles’ tobacco industry friends/donors visited the White House right before Trump decided to pressure the FDA to allow mango and blueberry vapes.

Quite the coincidence, right?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Emo jimmy on May 10, 2026, 08:11:07 AM
Lol at his supporters losing that 100$ deposit for their trump phones theyre never gonna get
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on May 10, 2026, 09:51:55 AM
Lol at his supporters losing that 100$ deposit for their trump phones theyre never gonna get

Boy did they really own the libs with that one.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on May 10, 2026, 05:34:27 PM
I don't think it is a good sign that Bibi's wants are getting coverage in the US media.

Trump bluster is just nonsense, but I worry because Bibi's lust for war is getting attention again that might mean the ceasefire isn't going to hold.

(https://i.ibb.co/6R8YBd84/Screenshot-2026-05-10-at-12-05-58-PM.png)
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Jim and Dan on May 11, 2026, 06:56:13 AM
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LOL. I have a good feeling that Juul and Altria were some of the "private donors" to Trump's ballroom.

https://abc7chicago.com/post/fda-authorizes-fruit-flavored-cigarettes-adults-major-shift-president-donald-trump/19052208/

Glad he's working hard to make sure people can get mango flavored vapes rather than, you know, finding out ways to bring down prices and prevent US soldiers from being killed.
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Meanwhile, LA can't have menthol anymore. The fact that FDA of all agencies approved fruit flavored vapes reads like a fucking Onion article. Trump started this whole fruit flavored ban back in the first administration when some youts got sick from some bootleg cannabis vape oil and turned that into all flavored vapes were on purpose trying to hook and kill the teenage user base ASAP
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His Chief of Staff, Susie Wiles’ tobacco industry friends/donors visited the White House right before Trump decided to pressure the FDA to allow mango and blueberry vapes.

Quite the coincidence, right?

Gotta' shore up those youth votes for the upcoming mid-terms...

The sad part that is that I feel like a lot of youth voters will be swayed by manipulative tactics like this, especially with critical thinking seemingly being in rare supply these days...

I'm ready to go back to my seriously misanthropic and nihilistic ways at this point...
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Rusty Shackleford on May 12, 2026, 05:04:02 PM
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...America Last
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on May 12, 2026, 06:02:21 PM
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...America Last

There needs to be an asterisk with the Americans part.
*unless they’re my billionaire donors or paying me.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Allen. on May 12, 2026, 07:16:34 PM
Anyone see the statement about domestic terrorists the other day?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Painted Baby on May 12, 2026, 08:35:03 PM
Anyone see the statement about domestic terrorists the other day?
https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/new-counterterror-strategy-eyes-tucker
This was a weird development out of that. Hot take but it all feels like authoritarian reality tv. If we had a bunch of kangaroo courts I could see this being an imminent threat but mostly the rule of law is holding, outside of the state and federal Supreme Courts which have been ratfucked. But then I also worry that because of the race to gerrymander since the gutting of the Voting Rights Act that the Senate is now out of reach and that the last two years are gonna be even worse shit while we all hold out breath to see if we have another election. Look at me talking about this upcoming one like it's for sure gonna happen.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: JANUS on May 13, 2026, 01:27:48 PM
I wonder if Donny is going to refer to Tucker as a radical leftist.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Dj Paul on May 13, 2026, 01:29:27 PM
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...America Last
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There needs to be an asterisk with the Americans part.
*unless they’re my billionaire donors or paying me.

Unless they are zionists
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on May 13, 2026, 01:32:38 PM
Anyone see the statement about domestic terrorists the other day?

Is that the one where he declared anyone that's gay, a leftist, aka non-MAGA will be labeled as a domestic terrorist? Then yea, he's been ranting about it for years.

Also, anyone see that he's stopping $1.3B in medicare from CA because of "suspected fraud?" Always suspected and never confirmed. And it's always blue states.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Chalupa on May 13, 2026, 04:14:07 PM
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Anyone see the statement about domestic terrorists the other day?
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Is that the one where he declared anyone that's gay, a leftist, aka non-MAGA will be labeled as a domestic terrorist? Then yea, he's been ranting about it for years.

Also, anyone see that he's stopping $1.3B in medicare from CA because of "suspected fraud?" Always suspected and never confirmed. And it's always blue states.
I read about both of those but he does and says so much fucked up shit, I’m getting kind of desensitized. We pay taxes that either go into the pockets of billionaires or towards bombing people overseas. At the same time, law enforcement executes people for fun while American media bitches about China and Iran violating human rights.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Painted Baby on May 13, 2026, 04:33:06 PM
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Anyone see the statement about domestic terrorists the other day?
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Is that the one where he declared anyone that's gay, a leftist, aka non-MAGA will be labeled as a domestic terrorist? Then yea, he's been ranting about it for years.

Also, anyone see that he's stopping $1.3B in medicare from CA because of "suspected fraud?" Always suspected and never confirmed. And it's always blue states.
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I read about both of those but he does and says so much fucked up shit, I’m getting kind of desensitized. We pay taxes that either go into the pockets of billionaires or towards bombing people overseas. At the same time, law enforcement executes people for fun while American media bitches about China and Iran violating human rights.
These are all ghouls. There's a bill on the ballot in California that would temporarily add a half cent sales tax to make up for the BBB shortfalls. It's likely to pass. So just in time for CA to not have to make painful cuts oh wow there's fraud who found that your little dipshit mormon kid? How's his Pulitzer coming?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on May 18, 2026, 02:11:40 PM
I can't see how this is good for democracy in anyway. Break the law? Attack the capitol? No big deal, we'll pay you to do so.

(https://i.ibb.co/h1RjTJ5b/Screenshot-2026-05-18-at-1-24-29-PM.png)
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on May 18, 2026, 02:34:25 PM
I can't see how this is good for democracy in anyway. Break the law? Attack the capitol? No big deal, we'll pay you to do so.

(https://i.ibb.co/h1RjTJ5b/Screenshot-2026-05-18-at-1-24-29-PM.png)

It's also: be trans and/or oppose fascism, we'll label and charge you as a domestic terrorist.

Also, it's not good for Democracy, it's good for Trump. He's building a loyal base who will be willing to fight and die for HIM, not for the country. He's shown time and time again, he rewards loyalty.

So should Dems take the midterms and want to impeach him and/or try him for the Epstein files, he has a MAGA army that will be willing to kill in his name.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: AnimalChinaski79 on May 19, 2026, 02:07:04 AM
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I can't see how this is good for democracy in anyway. Break the law? Attack the capitol? No big deal, we'll pay you to do so.

(https://i.ibb.co/h1RjTJ5b/Screenshot-2026-05-18-at-1-24-29-PM.png)
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It's also: be trans and/or oppose fascism, we'll label and charge you as a domestic terrorist.

Also, it's not good for Democracy, it's good for Trump. He's building a loyal base who will be willing to fight and die for HIM, not for the country. He's shown time and time again, he rewards loyalty.

So should Dems take the midterms and want to impeach him and/or try him for the Epstein files, he has a MAGA army that will be willing to kill in his name.

The thieving cocksucker isn't going to give any of them a dime.  He'll keep the money, just like he's done for decades with contractors he stiffed over the years. 
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Jim and Dan on May 19, 2026, 06:32:07 AM
I highly doubt any of those Jan. 6th traitors will see any actual dime from this, I'm sure it will all be siphoned off to shell corporations and corrupt law firms linked to Trump and his cronies...

America is seriously toast...
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on May 19, 2026, 08:13:27 AM
I highly doubt any of those Jan. 6th traitors will see any actual dime from this, I'm sure it will all be siphoned off to shell corporations and corrupt law firms linked to Trump and his cronies...

America is seriously toast...

I firmly believe that Stephen Miller (who is the obvious brains of this) will allow Jan 6ers to apply for this. Just that action alone will give them more loyalty to Trump. Then even if he gives all 1500 of them $10,000 in restitution, that adds to up $15,000,000 — a drop in this slush fund's bucket. To which, the rest can be diverted to Trump shell companies.

It's a win-win. He builds an army for pennies on the [tax payer's] dollar while paying himself with the rest.

Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Painted Baby on May 19, 2026, 01:24:23 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/dUwrLJW.jpeg)
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on May 19, 2026, 02:14:15 PM
Trump just came to an agreement with the acting AG, Todd Blanche, that Trump and any family/friend/business associated with Trump is barred from being investigated by the IRS.

Fucking hell. Straight up corruption in real time all up in our faces.

Anyone who "both sides" this topic deserves to be credit carded when attempting their next ollie.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Chalupa on May 19, 2026, 03:05:55 PM
Trump just came to an agreement with the acting AG, Todd Blanche, that Trump and any family/friend/business associated with Trump is barred from being investigated by the IRS.

Fucking hell. Straight up corruption in real time all up in our faces.

Anyone who "both sides" this topic deserves to be credit carded when attempting their next ollie.
People decided twice that they would rather have the most corrupt, fascist regime over a female president.

This country is already doomed and the planet probably will be if far-right candidates win more elections in South America and Europe.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on May 19, 2026, 04:01:53 PM
Trump just came to an agreement with the acting AG, Todd Blanche, that Trump and any family/friend/business associated with Trump is barred from being investigated by the IRS.

Fucking hell. Straight up corruption in real time all up in our faces.

Anyone who "both sides" this topic deserves to be credit carded when attempting their next ollie.

This is absolutely insane. "The law cannot be applied to me, my relatives, and a few select friends."

The post-sovietization of our country is coming along nicely. Our political economy is moving swiftly into a kleptocracy. We have a solid core. Let's see who gets to be on the periphery.

I also like, how Trump, like Putin promotes unqualified people into important roles. Dyumin went from body guard to General. 

The media is being consolidation is coming along smoothly. Ellison and family are getting their hooks into what Murdoch doesn't already own.

Loads to look forward to as society collapses and Iran's lego videos are better political messaging than the Democrats could even dream of. Why they didn't do this or something similar is beyond me. Just make virial content pointing out all the corrupt shit in an easy to digest way.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: The real veganshawn on May 20, 2026, 05:13:36 AM
The end of America, how long before he purposes renaming it
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: tuesday on May 20, 2026, 07:33:10 AM
How about Trumpistan? It even contains the letters U, S, A in this sequence.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on May 20, 2026, 09:44:05 AM
The end of America, how ling before he purposes renaming it

He already had West Palm Beach Florida's airport agree to licensing his name and selling ONLY official Trump merch.

So, I figure he'll do that with a city in each state rather than try to rename a whole ass country. At least with super red cities, he can license his likeness to them.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: 50mm on May 20, 2026, 11:10:57 AM
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Trump just endorsed this cunt. Only reason I know who Pratt is is because back in the day I was always hoping his dumbass wife would show her big ass titties.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Jehoshaphat Augustus on May 20, 2026, 11:29:53 AM
big ass titties.
could we get some more information regarding this part of the post
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: ToySanta on May 20, 2026, 05:52:41 PM
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big ass titties.
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could we get some more information regarding this part of the post

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Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Plan9Customs on May 20, 2026, 06:27:02 PM
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big ass titties.
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could we get some more information regarding this part of the post
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=F21GSPGprIc&ra=m
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Jehoshaphat Augustus on May 21, 2026, 06:42:42 AM
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but thanks for that extra info
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Painted Baby on May 21, 2026, 10:26:42 AM
Yeah all the chuds are getting frothed up for Pratt. Karen Bass is the type of person they just cannot abide ie a democratically elected black women. The Dem messaging is pretty strong here but this is a city full of property owners and temporarily embarrassed renters so I never have a feel for who is going to be Mayor. The best thing Heidi Montag ever did was this Only Fire remix and even then it's a just OK OF track.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scCgfxmf1SI
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Shitbag on May 22, 2026, 04:35:30 PM
Bye bye Tulsi Gabbard, I wonder which dipshit Fox News anchor will replace you?
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TastyBurrito on May 22, 2026, 06:31:15 PM
Trump quiey changed the Green Card application process requiring those who apply to leave the US, return to their country of origin, and apply through their embassy. Yes, because that will reduce the amount of people applying due to fear of inability to return to the US and/or death if they go back to their home country.

So, they tout “we want people who do it the right way” all while stonewalling the shit out of them.

Yet, if it’s white people who benefitted from Apartheid in South America, it’s “hurry, open the doors!”
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on May 22, 2026, 10:41:51 PM
Bye bye Tulsi Gabbard, I wonder which dipshit Fox News anchor will replace you?

I wonder which one of Trump's children just made millions on a Polymarket bet.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: TheLurper on June 17, 2026, 01:56:58 AM
What a celebration for America.

We wasted 14 million dollars turning the reflecting pool even more green.

We had a fight sponsored by Brawndo on the White House lawn. Remember when people we angry about Tony Hawk riding his skateboarding in the White House?
https://abcnews.com/Politics/story?id=7890671&page=1

Adding to the above nonsense, a Trump child tried cheating betting on the event (cause they can't ever have enough or not cheat).
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jun/15/eric-trump-white-house-ufc-fight

Iran gets 300 billion in investments thanks to Trump. Remember when Obama was criticized as treasonous for paying a "ransom" to terrorists for unfreezing 1.7 billion in assets?
https://financialservices.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=400998
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: AnimalChinaski79 on June 17, 2026, 02:08:49 AM
What a celebration for America.

We wasted 14 million dollars turning the reflecting pool even more green.

We had a fight sponsored by Brawndo on the White House lawn. Remember when people we angry about Tony Hawk riding his skateboarding in the White House?
https://abcnews.com/Politics/story?id=7890671&page=1

Adding to the above nonsense, a Trump child tried cheating betting on the event (cause they can't ever have enough or not cheat).
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jun/15/eric-trump-white-house-ufc-fight

Iran gets 300 billion in investments thanks to Trump. Remember when Obama was criticized as treasonous for paying a "ransom" to terrorists for unfreezing 1.7 billion in assets?
https://financialservices.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=400998

Winning!

An administration of child molesters, thieves, and liars.  This country is a lost cause.   
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Jehoshaphat Augustus on June 17, 2026, 08:24:04 AM
From Bernie's substack --

Incredibly, since Trump was elected on November 5, 2024, these 7 men, all Big Tech Oligarchs, have become more than $1.5 trillion richer and are now collectively worth over $2.8 trillion. Meanwhile, we have the highest rate of childhood poverty of any other wealthy nation, young adults have a lower standard of living than their parents and over 20% of our seniors are trying to survive on an annual income of $15,000 a year or less.

Yes. We are living in an oligarchy.

A Good Day for Trump’s Friends:

Yesterday, Elon Musk, the richest man in the world, got $164.8 billion richer and is now worth $1.4 trillion. He’s worth $1.1 trillion more than on Election Day.

Yesterday, Larry Page, the second wealthiest man in the world, gained $7.61 billion in wealth and is now worth $314 billion. He’s worth $161 billion more than on Election Day.

Yesterday, Sergey Brin, the third richest man in the world, got $7.01 billion richer and is now worth $292 billion. He’s worth $148 billion more than on Election Day.

Yesterday, Jeff Bezos, the fourth richest man in the world, gained $6.96 billion in wealth and is now worth $267 billion. He’s worth $46 billion more than on Election Day.

Yesterday, Larry Ellison, the fifth wealthiest man in the world, gained $8.92 billion in wealth and is now worth $247 billion. He’s worth $63 billion more than on Election Day.

Yesterday, Michael Dell, the sixth richest man in the world, got $5.86 billion richer and is now worth $218 billion. He’s worth $101 billion more than on Election Day.

Yesterday, Mark Zuckerberg, the seventh richest man in the world, gained $9.16 billion in wealth and is now worth $211 billion. He’s worth $8 billion more than on Election Day.

Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. said it best: “Call it democracy or call it democratic socialism, but there must be a better distribution of wealth within this country for all of God’s children.”
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: AnimalChinaski79 on June 17, 2026, 02:11:57 PM
From Bernie's substack --

Incredibly, since Trump was elected on November 5, 2024, these 7 men, all Big Tech Oligarchs, have become more than $1.5 trillion richer and are now collectively worth over $2.8 trillion. Meanwhile, we have the highest rate of childhood poverty of any other wealthy nation, young adults have a lower standard of living than their parents and over 20% of our seniors are trying to survive on an annual income of $15,000 a year or less.

Yes. We are living in an oligarchy.

A Good Day for Trump’s Friends:

Yesterday, Elon Musk, the richest man in the world, got $164.8 billion richer and is now worth $1.4 trillion. He’s worth $1.1 trillion more than on Election Day.

Yesterday, Larry Page, the second wealthiest man in the world, gained $7.61 billion in wealth and is now worth $314 billion. He’s worth $161 billion more than on Election Day.

Yesterday, Sergey Brin, the third richest man in the world, got $7.01 billion richer and is now worth $292 billion. He’s worth $148 billion more than on Election Day.

Yesterday, Jeff Bezos, the fourth richest man in the world, gained $6.96 billion in wealth and is now worth $267 billion. He’s worth $46 billion more than on Election Day.

Yesterday, Larry Ellison, the fifth wealthiest man in the world, gained $8.92 billion in wealth and is now worth $247 billion. He’s worth $63 billion more than on Election Day.

Yesterday, Michael Dell, the sixth richest man in the world, got $5.86 billion richer and is now worth $218 billion. He’s worth $101 billion more than on Election Day.

Yesterday, Mark Zuckerberg, the seventh richest man in the world, gained $9.16 billion in wealth and is now worth $211 billion. He’s worth $8 billion more than on Election Day.

Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. said it best: “Call it democracy or call it democratic socialism, but there must be a better distribution of wealth within this country for all of God’s children.”

All while MAGA shit for brains fall for the illegal immigrant scapegoat.  Because the illegal day worker standing outside Home Depot are the real problem.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Jehoshaphat Augustus on June 18, 2026, 08:37:33 AM
Back again with another copypasta for your reading displeasure

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TLDR:
we can ascertain from the released memorandum: Iran has defeated the USA in a war launched by the USA.
Title: Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
Post by: Billy Bitchcakes on June 18, 2026, 09:16:14 AM
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