so what's the deal with these?
I've never heard anything about them until I saw them on instagram
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I've been riding them for the last year. Awesome feel, no flat spots, grip when you want and slide on command and noticably faster than anything else I've tried.
They are a true natural urethane color, that might be weird to some, you get used to it fast, especially considering how great the wheels are.
I think all the bugs are worked out, look for them soonish.
For those of you that have had poor luck with the fire in the past, these will not disappoint.
I was also skeptical, on average f1's lasted me about 4 days before they were unrideable.
I rode bones because frankly they lasted the longest, they slide well but are too icy on some terrains.
I've had about 10 sets of the 4's, as they developed them, I skate a lot and tend to be really hard on wheels as I slide a ton, bluntslides,lipslides and lots of powerslides.
Have yet to flatspot a set. Not saying it can't be done on a long hill holding slides as long as you can, but with normal skating I haven't gotten one yet.
Hope so, really wanting to take some sales from Bones.Expand QuoteI was also skeptical, on average f1's lasted me about 4 days before they were unrideable.
I rode bones because frankly they lasted the longest, they slide well but are too icy on some terrains.
I've had about 10 sets of the 4's, as they developed them, I skate a lot and tend to be really hard on wheels as I slide a ton, bluntslides,lipslides and lots of powerslides.
Have yet to flatspot a set. Not saying it can't be done on a long hill holding slides as long as you can, but with normal skating I haven't gotten one yet.[close]
awesome, thanks for the info b.v.
the spring catalog is out already for spitfire, do you think they'll be out by summertime?
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI was also skeptical, on average f1's lasted me about 4 days before they were unrideable.
I rode bones because frankly they lasted the longest, they slide well but are too icy on some terrains.
I've had about 10 sets of the 4's, as they developed them, I skate a lot and tend to be really hard on wheels as I slide a ton, bluntslides,lipslides and lots of powerslides.
Have yet to flatspot a set. Not saying it can't be done on a long hill holding slides as long as you can, but with normal skating I haven't gotten one yet.[close]
awesome, thanks for the info b.v.
the spring catalog is out already for spitfire, do you think they'll be out by summertime?[close]
Loving the GY!BE Reference in your Cosby sig. Haha
I am officially interested.Might have to try these out after seeing Josh flat spot STFs haha He did the impossible
I was a Spitfire supporter for a while, and wanted to keep supporting them super badly, but I just couldn't stand buying a set of wheels and having them flatspot and wear out in the blink of an eye. I've been on the STF bandwagon for a few years now. If these wheels are anywhere near as good as STFs, it will be what I am buying from now on.
Might have to try these out after seeing Josh flat spot STFs haha He did the impossibleLately I have been seeing more stf's coming in to my shop flatspotted.
People in the know have been talking about these Spirfire's for a while now on the boards. I def want to try them after a pair of Busenitz Street Burner I had flatspotted in literally one session...
I had these 54MM AWOL Spits, and they never gave me an issue. I think it's because the wheel wasn't wide - it was supposed to be better to lock into grinds. I still don't know what the difference between AWOL's and Lock-In's are...Anyone? Does anyone swear by these for their performance? It's kind of the opposite of that Wide Manderson Wheel you see around a lot now...
Either way - It's nice to see Spitfire making a splash in the market again. Always rode and liked them.
The shape I have been riding is a new one for spitfire, it is close to the bones spf shape but slightly wider.
(http://cdn.companybe.com/Premier/product_photos/large/xl_8-15-12SpitfireTeamStreetBurnersEmbursBlack54mm.jpg)
I've been playing around with a bunch of different wheel companies since I got pissed with flat-spotting spitfires. They're good while they last, they just need to last, I've tried Broadcast, Autobahn, Bones, Paradise, Momentum, OJIIIs, Pigs, and even Satoris. I'm on to this new brand called The Portland Wheel Co. now and haven't gotten to skate them yet. The Broadcast, Bones, Paradise and Satoris were all decently good wheels, but I'm really excited about being able to support Spitfire again with their new formula.
Expand QuoteI've been playing around with a bunch of different wheel companies since I got pissed with flat-spotting spitfires. They're good while they last, they just need to last, I've tried Broadcast, Autobahn, Bones, Paradise, Momentum, OJIIIs, Pigs, and even Satoris. I'm on to this new brand called The Portland Wheel Co. now and haven't gotten to skate them yet. The Broadcast, Bones, Paradise and Satoris were all decently good wheels, but I'm really excited about being able to support Spitfire again with their new formula.[close]
Prize Fighter Cutlery will not disappoint you
I've been riding these since my trip to San Fransisco in June, they're amazing! I've had some chipping but it's only on the edges so I don?t notice it when riding. I used to only skate STF and didn't even bother with streetburners because I saw a lot of people flatspotting them, but I felt right at home with theese. super good wheels
People in the know have been talking about these Spirfire's for a while now on the boards. I def want to try them after a pair of Busenitz Street Burner I had flatspotted in literally one session...See I had a different experience with these. they flat spotted every five fucking minutes and didn't lock in as well as they were meant to.
I had these 54MM AWOL Spits, and they never gave me an issue. I think it's because the wheel wasn't wide - it was supposed to be better to lock into grinds. I still don't know what the difference between AWOL's and Lock-In's are...Anyone? Does anyone swear by these for their performance? It's kind of the opposite of that Wide Manderson Wheel you see around a lot now...
(http://www.blacksheepstore.co.uk/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/s/p/spitcole_awol53.jpg)
(http://www.mnl.dk/shared/8/8496a92851caeb6fb236f87978ea81d3_h100w800_width.JPG)
Either way - It's nice to see Spitfire making a splash in the market again. Always rode and liked them.
Quote from: The Nose Face ? link=topic=68020.msg1849395#msg1849395 date=1360854624See I had a different experience with these. they flat spotted every five fucking minutes and didn't lock in as well as they were meant to.Expand QuotePeople in the know have been talking about these Spirfire's for a while now on the boards. I def want to try them after a pair of Busenitz Street Burner I had flatspotted in literally one session...
I had these 54MM AWOL Spits, and they never gave me an issue. I think it's because the wheel wasn't wide - it was supposed to be better to lock into grinds. I still don't know what the difference between AWOL's and Lock-In's are...Anyone? Does anyone swear by these for their performance? It's kind of the opposite of that Wide Manderson Wheel you see around a lot now...
(http://www.blacksheepstore.co.uk/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/s/p/spitcole_awol53.jpg)
(http://www.mnl.dk/shared/8/8496a92851caeb6fb236f87978ea81d3_h100w800_width.JPG)
Either way - It's nice to see Spitfire making a splash in the market again. Always rode and liked them.[close]
When the fuck are these coming out?
Been riding these for a year or so ... awesome. Love 'em.When will they be released? (If you know)
The formula 4 urethane is set to be released for the summer I heard.So... in one of the next DLX drops? I hope so, I need some new wheels soon.
They are taking every precaution to make sure the product is top notch.
I've ridden 6 sets, given out a dozen, not one flatspot from any of them.Whats the natural color?
I usually destroy wheels(including bones), I've tried to flat these, held a slide for the length of 2 parking spots,nothing.
The natural color will bum some people out, those who don't care will have awesome wheels.
it's off white, not like stf's bright white colorWhats the natural color?Expand QuoteI've ridden 6 sets, given out a dozen, not one flatspot from any of them.
I usually destroy wheels(including bones), I've tried to flat these, held a slide for the length of 2 parking spots,nothing.
The natural color will bum some people out, those who don't care will have awesome wheels.[close]
Here is the set I am currently on, been skating them for a week.O ok it's sort of like a baize color. I would definitely be down to try a pair when they come out this summer. Do you work for dlx or something?
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I run a shop and I have friends that work for dlx, they take good care of me and my shop so I do my best to support them.No that's rad man. Where is your shop located?
Certified dick rider I guess.
Here is the set I am currently on, been skating them for a week.I actually think the off white color looks pretty sick.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/ttowndave/IMAG0783.jpg)
Ive ridden both, they plan on doing a few shapes I was told but things change and everything is subject to change.
I heard this shape is supposed to be put in production with the formuala 4 urethane.
(http://www.skate-europe.com/common/zdjecia/98762-1.jpg)
We are in Washington state south of Seattle.No that's rad man. Where is your shop located?Expand QuoteI run a shop and I have friends that work for dlx, they take good care of me and my shop so I do my best to support them.
Certified dick rider I guess.[close]
I actually think the off white color looks pretty sick.Expand QuoteHere is the set I am currently on, been skating them for a week.
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I was wondering what those stickers were on your board in the post your set up thread. You got a rad set up man. That gonz board looks amazing.We are in Washington state south of Seattle.Expand QuoteNo that's rad man. Where is your shop located?Expand QuoteI run a shop and I have friends that work for dlx, they take good care of me and my shop so I do my best to support them.
Certified dick rider I guess.[close][close]
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We are in Washington state south of Seattle.Expand QuoteNo that's rad man. Where is your shop located?Expand QuoteI run a shop and I have friends that work for dlx, they take good care of me and my shop so I do my best to support them.
Certified dick rider I guess.[close][close]
I ride mostly bones 100's. But I tried Spitfire F1's but I didn't like the feel of them from the first day on. Skated them till they flatspotted 2 months later and got some bones 100's again. Way better for me.(probably a ridiculous question) have you tried bones STFs?
I'm gonna try these when they come out. But spitfire isn't doing it for me in the past.
(probably a ridiculous question) have you tried bones STFs?Expand QuoteI ride mostly bones 100's. But I tried Spitfire F1's but I didn't like the feel of them from the first day on. Skated them till they flatspotted 2 months later and got some bones 100's again. Way better for me.
I'm gonna try these when they come out. But spitfire isn't doing it for me in the past.[close]
The natural color will bum some people out, those who don't care will have awesome wheels.you can always dye them
I skated Spitfires for 8ish years....Tried STF's once and they felt like walmart wheels to me, though. I switched to Prize Fighters about a year ago and now I won't skate anything else. Nothing else is as resilient, but I guess these formula fours may be...I'd be down to give em a shot.
And to the dude that said he flatspotted PFC's once and never went back, are you joking? I've flatspotted every set of wheels I've ever owned ever... That's no reason to abandon a company entirely.
Expand QuoteI skated Spitfires for 8ish years....Tried STF's once and they felt like walmart wheels to me, though. I switched to Prize Fighters about a year ago and now I won't skate anything else. Nothing else is as resilient, but I guess these formula fours may be...I'd be down to give em a shot.
And to the dude that said he flatspotted PFC's once and never went back, are you joking? I've flatspotted every set of wheels I've ever owned ever... That's no reason to abandon a company entirely.[close]
I wouldn't switch back to anything other than PFC's either. I've tried to flatspot them and couldn't do it.
the color of them just makes me think of unsold wheels sitting in the shop foreverHad a set of Pig's at the local shop that no one would buy, and they just sat there for months, and the color they ended up turning sort of reminds me of how the F4's look, ahah.
Zoltan, do you know what shape those are?
Bones makes spitfire obsolete. Unless they man up and put a flatspot guarantee on the F4's FUCK SPITFIREyou seriously blow
Even Darkstar can make wheels that don't flatspot, spitfire is a joke
some people just can't handle the truth. they see the cool spitfire logo and hand over the moneysQuote from: Tracer ? link=topic=68020.msg1892283#msg1892283 date=1365978632you seriously blowExpand QuoteBones makes spitfire obsolete. Unless they man up and put a flatspot guarantee on the F4's FUCK SPITFIRE
Even Darkstar can make wheels that don't flatspot, spitfire is a joke[close]
some people just can't handle the truth. they see the cool spitfire logo and hand over the moneysExpand QuoteQuote from: Tracer ? link=topic=68020.msg1892283#msg1892283 date=1365978632you seriously blowExpand QuoteBones makes spitfire obsolete. Unless they man up and put a flatspot guarantee on the F4's FUCK SPITFIRE
Even Darkstar can make wheels that don't flatspot, spitfire is a joke[close][close]
(http://www.spitfirewheels.com/burnclub/signup.php)
http://spitfirewheels.com/burnclub/ (http://spitfirewheels.com/burnclub/)
Coming next month.
Bro, its fukkin true. Spitfires are garbage compared to BonesQuote from: Tracer link=topic=68020.msg1892464#msg1892464 date=1365995646Expand Quotesome people just can't handle the truth. they see the cool spitfire logo and hand over the moneysExpand QuoteQuote from: Tracer ? link=topic=68020.msg1892283#msg1892283 date=1365978632you seriously blowExpand QuoteBones makes spitfire obsolete. Unless they man up and put a flatspot guarantee on the F4's FUCK SPITFIRE
Even Darkstar can make wheels that don't flatspot, spitfire is a joke[close][close][close]
I really do not like you
This is what I thought before I got to try f4. If the final product is as good as the sample I got I'll never buy another wheel againBro, its fukkin true. Spitfires are garbage compared to BonesExpand QuoteQuote from: Tracer link=topic=68020.msg1892464#msg1892464 date=1365995646Expand Quotesome people just can't handle the truth. they see the cool spitfire logo and hand over the moneysExpand QuoteQuote from: Tracer ? link=topic=68020.msg1892283#msg1892283 date=1365978632you seriously blowExpand QuoteBones makes spitfire obsolete. Unless they man up and put a flatspot guarantee on the F4's FUCK SPITFIRE
Even Darkstar can make wheels that don't flatspot, spitfire is a joke[close][close][close]
I really do not like you[close]
Bones don't flatspot, spitfires do, end of story
What don't you like about bones wheels? They have been good foreverQuote from: Tracer link=topic=68020.msg1903453#msg1903453 date=1367439321This is what I thought before I got to try f4. If the final product is as good as the sample I got I'll never buy another wheel againExpand QuoteBro, its fukkin true. Spitfires are garbage compared to BonesExpand QuoteQuote from: Tracer link=topic=68020.msg1892464#msg1892464 date=1365995646Expand Quotesome people just can't handle the truth. they see the cool spitfire logo and hand over the moneysExpand QuoteQuote from: Tracer ? link=topic=68020.msg1892283#msg1892283 date=1365978632you seriously blowExpand QuoteBones makes spitfire obsolete. Unless they man up and put a flatspot guarantee on the F4's FUCK SPITFIRE
Even Darkstar can make wheels that don't flatspot, spitfire is a joke[close][close][close]
I really do not like you[close]
Bones don't flatspot, spitfires do, end of story[close]
Bro, its fukkin true. Spitfires are garbage compared to BonesExpand QuoteQuote from: Tracer link=topic=68020.msg1892464#msg1892464 date=1365995646Expand Quotesome people just can't handle the truth. they see the cool spitfire logo and hand over the moneysExpand QuoteQuote from: Tracer ? link=topic=68020.msg1892283#msg1892283 date=1365978632you seriously blowExpand QuoteBones makes spitfire obsolete. Unless they man up and put a flatspot guarantee on the F4's FUCK SPITFIRE
Even Darkstar can make wheels that don't flatspot, spitfire is a joke[close][close][close]
I really do not like you[close]
Bones don't flatspot, spitfires do, end of story
define betterQuote from: Tracer link=topic=68020.msg1903453#msg1903453 date=1367439321Expand QuoteBro, its fukkin true. Spitfires are garbage compared to BonesExpand QuoteQuote from: Tracer link=topic=68020.msg1892464#msg1892464 date=1365995646Expand Quotesome people just can't handle the truth. they see the cool spitfire logo and hand over the moneysExpand QuoteQuote from: Tracer ? link=topic=68020.msg1892283#msg1892283 date=1365978632you seriously blowExpand QuoteBones makes spitfire obsolete. Unless they man up and put a flatspot guarantee on the F4's FUCK SPITFIRE
Even Darkstar can make wheels that don't flatspot, spitfire is a joke[close][close][close]
I really do not like you[close]
Bones don't flatspot, spitfires do, end of story[close]
sorry you can't afford spitfires that are better even though you have to replace them more often, and you have to buy shitty bones because they last longer. Length isn't the only deciding factor of which wheel is better.
I got love for DLX, and bones are usually more expensive... don't know how f4 will be priced yet thoughWhat don't you like about bones wheels? They have been good foreverExpand QuoteQuote from: Tracer link=topic=68020.msg1903453#msg1903453 date=1367439321This is what I thought before I got to try f4. If the final product is as good as the sample I got I'll never buy another wheel againExpand QuoteBro, its fukkin true. Spitfires are garbage compared to BonesExpand QuoteQuote from: Tracer link=topic=68020.msg1892464#msg1892464 date=1365995646Expand Quotesome people just can't handle the truth. they see the cool spitfire logo and hand over the moneysExpand QuoteQuote from: Tracer ? link=topic=68020.msg1892283#msg1892283 date=1365978632you seriously blowExpand QuoteBones makes spitfire obsolete. Unless they man up and put a flatspot guarantee on the F4's FUCK SPITFIRE
Even Darkstar can make wheels that don't flatspot, spitfire is a joke[close][close][close]
I really do not like you[close]
Bones don't flatspot, spitfires do, end of story[close][close]
Just don't see why people need to change a good thing
Quote from: Tracer link=topic=68020.msg1903638#msg1903638 date=1367451039I got love for DLX, and bones are usually more expensive... don't know how f4 will be priced yet thoughExpand QuoteWhat don't you like about bones wheels? They have been good foreverExpand QuoteQuote from: Tracer link=topic=68020.msg1903453#msg1903453 date=1367439321This is what I thought before I got to try f4. If the final product is as good as the sample I got I'll never buy another wheel againExpand QuoteBro, its fukkin true. Spitfires are garbage compared to BonesExpand QuoteQuote from: Tracer link=topic=68020.msg1892464#msg1892464 date=1365995646Expand Quotesome people just can't handle the truth. they see the cool spitfire logo and hand over the moneysExpand QuoteQuote from: Tracer ? link=topic=68020.msg1892283#msg1892283 date=1365978632you seriously blowExpand QuoteBones makes spitfire obsolete. Unless they man up and put a flatspot guarantee on the F4's FUCK SPITFIRE
Even Darkstar can make wheels that don't flatspot, spitfire is a joke[close][close][close]
I really do not like you[close]
Bones don't flatspot, spitfires do, end of story[close][close]
Just don't see why people need to change a good thing[close]
Well when people get there hands on A set of the new formula 4 spitfire wheels, it won't be for image.
They're damn good wheels that in my varied experience both first and second hand do not flat spot.
Meaning over a dozen sets locally given to folks that destroy wheels on a regular basis that NEVER flatspotted them and continue to ride them until they come across another set.
i flatspotted one of my stf's last week when i got caught on a rock at a foundation spot. its possible
the color of them just makes me think of unsold wheels sitting in the shop foreverThats probably what they are, the dudes in marketing probably just said call it something cool like formula 4 and tell people they wont flatspot and we'll get rid of these shitty yellow wheels in no time
spitfire wheels really suck really bad, just throwing that out thereLike I said I didn't even bother with streetburners, I was never into spitfire before I got this wheel. but I've been riding a set of theese since July and they're the muhfuckin' truth!
Best wheels made!
I have had 3 pairs they don't flat spot and i'll be damned they almost don't even cone.
The only reason I ever put on new ones was purely because i had more laying around.
you can punish them with month's of power sliding and hill bombs, you won't be bummed
Best wheels made!They cant be that good if you've gone through 3 sets and there not even out yet.
I have had 3 pairs they don't flat spot and i'll be damned they almost don't even cone.
The only reason I ever put on new ones was purely because i had more laying around.
you can punish them with month's of power sliding and hill bombs, you won't be bummed
Pretty sure samples have been floating around since last summer. Weren't they orange first?They cant be that good if you've gone through 3 sets and there not even out yet.Expand QuoteBest wheels made!
I have had 3 pairs they don't flat spot and i'll be damned they almost don't even cone.
The only reason I ever put on new ones was purely because i had more laying around.
you can punish them with month's of power sliding and hill bombs, you won't be bummed[close]
Wheels are wheels. Spitfire, Bones, PFC. They all ride the same, and end up the same way.
Pretty much. haha
Expand QuoteWheels are wheels. Spitfire, Bones, PFC. They all ride the same, and end up the same way.[close]
bones and spitfires ride the same and end up the same? haha
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteWheels are wheels. Spitfire, Bones, PFC. They all ride the same, and end up the same way.[close]
bones and spitfires ride the same and end up the same? haha[close]
i have to agree. wheels are wheels. the differences between performance is so meager that it doesnt warrant a ten to fifteen dollar price difference. i've rode satori, paradise, bones, OJ, etc. they are all about the same. the only exception to this is spitfire. they suck.
also, u guys should really buy wheels from smaller brands like satori and paradise. they are good wheels and warrant the support.
Yea, so if you actually read what I said. I did'nt "go through" 3 pairs. I just changed them out because i had more, I give them to kids at the park. So yes F4's are that good. Buy some dummies they are almost outExpand QuoteThey cant be that good if you've gone through 3 sets and there not even out yet.Expand QuoteBest wheels made!
I have had 3 pairs they don't flat spot and i'll be damned they almost don't even cone.
The only reason I ever put on new ones was purely because i had more laying around.
you can punish them with month's of power sliding and hill bombs, you won't be bummed[close][close]
I just rode around on my backup board cuz it was in my trunk.
I can't stand the sound/feeling of bones stf anymore.
my fourmula 4's still going strong, can't wait to get them in a conical shape.
I've been riding spitfires pretty much exclusively for the past 10 years. I've tried a few other things here and there, even jumped on the stf craze a few years ago, they just felt horrible, way to slippery and hard. not to mention the shapes are completely miserable, so much so that I would prefer a yellowing flat spotted f1. However, these past year or two I've ridden mostly spitfire classics, all of which for some strange reason haven't yellowed or got any substantial flat spots, and have out performed every f1 set i've had. I'm stoked to try the formula 4 wheels.Bones makes 4 stf shapes for all styles of skating, if you can't find one you like you're doing it wrong
Bones makes 4 stf shapes for all styles of skating, if you can't find one you like you're doing it wrongExpand QuoteI've been riding spitfires pretty much exclusively for the past 10 years. I've tried a few other things here and there, even jumped on the stf craze a few years ago, they just felt horrible, way to slippery and hard. not to mention the shapes are completely miserable, so much so that I would prefer a yellowing flat spotted f1. However, these past year or two I've ridden mostly spitfire classics, all of which for some strange reason haven't yellowed or got any substantial flat spots, and have out performed every f1 set i've had. I'm stoked to try the formula 4 wheels.[close]
Quote from: Tracer link=topic=68020.msg1913290#msg1913290 date=1368665931Expand QuoteBones makes 4 stf shapes for all styles of skating, if you can't find one you like you're doing it wrongExpand QuoteI've been riding spitfires pretty much exclusively for the past 10 years. I've tried a few other things here and there, even jumped on the stf craze a few years ago, they just felt horrible, way to slippery and hard. not to mention the shapes are completely miserable, so much so that I would prefer a yellowing flat spotted f1. However, these past year or two I've ridden mostly spitfire classics, all of which for some strange reason haven't yellowed or got any substantial flat spots, and have out performed every f1 set i've had. I'm stoked to try the formula 4 wheels.[close][close]
Or maybe... we dont like bones.
Expand QuoteI just rode around on my backup board cuz it was in my trunk.
I can't stand the sound/feeling of bones stf anymore.
my fourmula 4's still going strong, can't wait to get them in a conical shape.[close]
Are they gonna release them in a conical/SFW shape? fuck i hope so
Not liking bones is like saying you prefer crap wheels. Not all of us live near skateshops and can replace flatspotted wheels in an instant. I've skated for 12 years and no wheel resists flatspots better than bones. Bones makes 100s for all you spitfire lovers, and their SPF formula is great for all you vert/ bowl skatersQuote from: Tracer link=topic=68020.msg1913290#msg1913290 date=1368665931Expand QuoteBones makes 4 stf shapes for all styles of skating, if you can't find one you like you're doing it wrongExpand QuoteI've been riding spitfires pretty much exclusively for the past 10 years. I've tried a few other things here and there, even jumped on the stf craze a few years ago, they just felt horrible, way to slippery and hard. not to mention the shapes are completely miserable, so much so that I would prefer a yellowing flat spotted f1. However, these past year or two I've ridden mostly spitfire classics, all of which for some strange reason haven't yellowed or got any substantial flat spots, and have out performed every f1 set i've had. I'm stoked to try the formula 4 wheels.[close][close]
Or maybe... we dont like bones.
Not liking bones is like saying you prefer crap wheels. Not all of us live near skateshops and can replace flatspotted wheels in an instant. I've skated for 12 years and no wheel resists flatspots better than bones. Bones makes 100s for all you spitfire lovers, and their SPF formula is great for all you vert/ bowl skatersExpand QuoteQuote from: Tracer link=topic=68020.msg1913290#msg1913290 date=1368665931Expand QuoteBones makes 4 stf shapes for all styles of skating, if you can't find one you like you're doing it wrongExpand QuoteI've been riding spitfires pretty much exclusively for the past 10 years. I've tried a few other things here and there, even jumped on the stf craze a few years ago, they just felt horrible, way to slippery and hard. not to mention the shapes are completely miserable, so much so that I would prefer a yellowing flat spotted f1. However, these past year or two I've ridden mostly spitfire classics, all of which for some strange reason haven't yellowed or got any substantial flat spots, and have out performed every f1 set i've had. I'm stoked to try the formula 4 wheels.[close][close]
Or maybe... we dont like bones.[close]
You're beating a dead horse, every non sponsored skater will tell you bones are the best.
Not liking bones is like saying you prefer crap wheels. Not all of us live near skateshops and can replace flatspotted wheels in an instant. I've skated for 12 years and no wheel resists flatspots better than bones. Bones makes 100s for all you spitfire lovers, and their SPF formula is great for all you vert/ bowl skatersExpand QuoteQuote from: Tracer link=topic=68020.msg1913290#msg1913290 date=1368665931Expand QuoteBones makes 4 stf shapes for all styles of skating, if you can't find one you like you're doing it wrongExpand QuoteI've been riding spitfires pretty much exclusively for the past 10 years. I've tried a few other things here and there, even jumped on the stf craze a few years ago, they just felt horrible, way to slippery and hard. not to mention the shapes are completely miserable, so much so that I would prefer a yellowing flat spotted f1. However, these past year or two I've ridden mostly spitfire classics, all of which for some strange reason haven't yellowed or got any substantial flat spots, and have out performed every f1 set i've had. I'm stoked to try the formula 4 wheels.[close][close]
Or maybe... we dont like bones.[close]
You're beating a dead horse, every non sponsored skater will tell you bones are the best.
It's not an argument it's simply my opinion, go ahead and buy your spitfires just don't come back saying they flatspotted and I didn't warn youQuote from: Tracer �link=topic=68020.msg1913396#msg1913396 date=1368673869Expand QuoteNot liking bones is like saying you prefer crap wheels. Not all of us live near skateshops and can replace flatspotted wheels in an instant. I've skated for 12 years and no wheel resists flatspots better than bones. �Bones makes 100s for all you spitfire lovers, and their SPF formula is great for all you vert/ bowl skatersExpand QuoteQuote from: Tracer �link=topic=68020.msg1913290#msg1913290 date=1368665931Expand QuoteBones makes 4 stf shapes for all styles of skating, if you can't find one you like you're doing it wrongExpand QuoteI've been riding spitfires pretty much exclusively for the past 10 years. I've tried a few other things here and there, even jumped on the stf craze a few years ago, they just felt horrible, way to slippery and hard. not to mention the shapes are completely miserable, so much so that I would prefer a yellowing flat spotted f1. However, these past year or two I've ridden mostly spitfire classics, all of which for some strange reason haven't yellowed or got any substantial flat spots, and have out performed every f1 set i've had. I'm stoked to try the formula 4 wheels.[close][close]
Or maybe... we dont like bones.[close]
You're beating a dead horse, every non sponsored skater will tell you bones are the best.[close]
Are you trying to troll, or are you just really fucking stupid, please be honest
your opinion has resulted in at least myself to believe that you should focus yourself.Bro you're getting a little too heated over this. I love bones wheels and believe they're the best, as do most people
"every non sponsored skater will tell you bones are the best."
what the fuck kind of sentence is that? every non sponsored skater is pretty much every skater and i guarantee that you don't know "every non sponsored skater." you're stupid as shit. i hate you.
side view
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I never said they were all the same shape...
They are't sticky, just not as plastic slidey feeling as bones.Can not wait to try these. The conical shape looks nice.
Conical shape in front, classic shape in back.
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sweet, thanks b.v.Can not wait to try these. The conical shape looks nice.Expand QuoteThey are't sticky, just not as plastic slidey feeling as bones.
Conical shape in front, classic shape in back.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/ttowndave/IMAG0922.jpg)[close]
my local shop doesn't carry spitfire so i'll have to get em online, but don't know where to look
suggestions?
what is their hardness?
Expand Quotemy local shop doesn't carry spitfire so i'll have to get em online, but don't know where to look
suggestions?[close]
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
my local shop doesn't carry spitfire so i'll have to get em online, but don't know where to look(http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view1/1357165/confused-o.gif)
suggestions?
This isn't related to formula 4, but does anyone know what is the smallest size they make of the sfw shape?
Expand QuoteThis isn't related to formula 4, but does anyone know what is the smallest size they make of the sfw shape?[close]
i think its a 51, thats the smallest ive seen (http://socalskateshop.com/images/products/large_27225_sf-wheel-pro-SFW-andersonLG2.jpg)
bahaha DAYIM... so any word on release dates? these wheels should be out by now!(http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view1/1357165/confused-o.gif)Expand Quotemy local shop doesn't carry spitfire so i'll have to get em online, but don't know where to look
suggestions?[close]
Does anybody else get the urge to like bite new wheels? no...? me neither.I do, it's like I gotta feel some kind of pressure on my wheels.
Expand Quotewhat is their hardness?[close]
My friend is skating a set of 101a, so I'm assuming the softer F4 will be 100a or 99a
put 'em out already!put 'em out already!put 'em out already!put 'em out already!
Expand Quoteput 'em out already!put 'em out already!put 'em out already!put 'em out already![/size][/size][/size][/size]
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I was told 2 weeks from yesterday they will be available for shops to order.Awesome.
for the dudes who have ridden them: would you recommend the 99 or the 101 duro? My local still doesn't have em in (the dude at the shop last time didn't even know what I was talking about when I asked), but I definitely want to try a set once they drop.shit, mine just said "team edition", nothing about duro, now I don't know wich ones to get...
I've skated the ones that just said Team Edition and I think they were 101duro, but am not sure on that. I've also skated the newer editions that are marked 99duro and the 101duro, and they were both amazing. If you're skating more street and concrete I'd go with the 101's, although that's just my opinion.shit, mine just said "team edition", nothing about duro, now I don't know wich ones to get...Expand Quotefor the dudes who have ridden them: would you recommend the 99 or the 101 duro? My local still doesn't have em in (the dude at the shop last time didn't even know what I was talking about when I asked), but I definitely want to try a set once they drop.[close]
I'm seeing they come in "Classic, Tablet and Full"
I can see what classic would be, so does that mean Tablet is the lock-in version, and Full is the bigger version (like the manderson/cardiel wheel).
Anyone know - B.V. you out there..?
They are't sticky, just not as plastic slidey feeling as bones.
Conical shape in front, classic shape in back.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/ttowndave/IMAG0922.jpg)
It is fixed, you will not be disappointed!
Last set I had I rode for 2 months, no flatspots, no chunks, nothing wrong, just smaller than I wanted.
Expand QuoteIt is fixed, you will not be disappointed!
Last set I had I rode for 2 months, no flatspots, no chunks, nothing wrong, just smaller than I wanted.[close]
Just the 101a or both duro's?
I do like the feel of a slightly softer wheel, but if it's not as flatspot resistant (understandable), I'll just stick to 101a
I've ridden A bunch of different formulas with no name so not sure, probably had em.Expand QuoteIt is fixed, you will not be disappointed!
Last set I had I rode for 2 months, no flatspots, no chunks, nothing wrong, just smaller than I wanted.[close]
Just the 101a or both duro's?
I do like the feel of a slightly softer wheel, but if it's not as flatspot resistant (understandable), I'll just stick to 101a
Seriously, what is taking them so long? Weren't they supposed to be out by the beginning of june?The firm that distributes DLX here in NZ told me that'd they had been ordered and were expected to land here at the start of July. They're still up on CCS so I would like to say they will be rolling out in the next week or two?
I just got a set of the Formula 4s in 56 classic shape and I usually ride 52s... does anyone have smaller formula 4s they would want to trade for these 56s? Kind of a weird question haha
Expand QuoteI just got a set of the Formula 4s in 56 classic shape and I usually ride 52s... does anyone have smaller formula 4s they would want to trade for these 56s? Kind of a weird question haha[close]
Nate from DLX was happy to send me some formula 4's in my size, another reason I fucking love everything they do over there.
I couldn't be happier with the way they skate, been doing a bunch of powerslides and they still skate as smooth as when I first set them up. By far my favorite wheels I've ever skated and I honestly like the off white color. Thanks again Nate!
Nate is A great guy.Agreed, that cat is all heart and powerslides.
DLX is lucky to have a fellow like him.
Truer words are rarely spoken. Nate is top shelf.Agreed, that cat is all heart and powerslides.Expand QuoteNate is A great guy.
DLX is lucky to have a fellow like him.[close]
ya he rulezTruer words are rarely spoken. Nate is top shelf.Expand QuoteAgreed, that cat is all heart and powerslides.Expand QuoteNate is A great guy.
DLX is lucky to have a fellow like him.[close][close]
Expand Quotegot a tour of DLXSF in SF and they gave me a set of them for free. so psyched. They've been great![close]
Good enough to not go back to Bones?
Expand QuoteExpand Quotegot a tour of DLXSF in SF and they gave me a set of them for free. so psyched. They've been great![close]
Good enough to not go back to Bones?[close]
I'd say so for sure. They slide and last like Bones only feel less like plastic.
What is Classic as opposed to Tablet?
i can't read the dimensions after zooming in. the tablet shape seems nice though. 36.5mm wide? for what size?Expand QuoteWhat is Classic as opposed to Tablet?[close]
b.v. posted this on the last page
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tablet is flat, full is conical. classic is rounded, like the standard skate wheel
i can't read the dimensions after zooming in. the tablet shape seems nice though. 36.5mm wide? for what size?Expand QuoteExpand QuoteWhat is Classic as opposed to Tablet?[close]
b.v. posted this on the last page
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/ttowndave/SFFORMULAFOURINFOSHEET.jpg)
tablet is flat, full is conical. classic is rounded, like the standard skate wheel[close]
edit: nevermind.. i think its 20 something instead of 30, ehhh
anyone know if the full is supposed to be similar to the SFW shape? i dont think I wanna go back to a slim wheel honestly and it doesnt seem like spitfires gonna make more SFWsc'mon man read the thread
Here is an sfw and conical full side by side.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/ttowndave/IMAG0927.jpg)
If they couldn't get formulas 1, 2, or 3 right, chances are these wheels will blow 2
Supposedly Jim Thiebaud is sending me some since I flat spotted some classics. Anyone have experience with him giving you shit? Like does it actually get to you?
Expand QuoteSupposedly Jim Thiebaud is sending me some since I flat spotted some classics. Anyone have experience with him giving you shit? Like does it actually get to you?[close]
Yes. DLX dont fuck around. They take care of their customers like no one else in the business.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteSupposedly Jim Thiebaud is sending me some since I flat spotted some classics. Anyone have experience with him giving you shit? Like does it actually get to you?[close]
Yes. DLX dont fuck around. They take care of their customers like no one else in the business.[close]
Alright cool. I sent him an email and I guess I'll be receiving some formula fours. Pretty hyped. These classics are good enough, flat spots don't bother me too much. If formula fours are more durable and slide a little better ill be sold.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteSupposedly Jim Thiebaud is sending me some since I flat spotted some classics. Anyone have experience with him giving you shit? Like does it actually get to you?[close]
Yes. DLX dont fuck around. They take care of their customers like no one else in the business.[close]
Alright cool. I sent him an email and I guess I'll be receiving some formula fours. Pretty hyped. These classics are good enough, flat spots don't bother me too much. If formula fours are more durable and slide a little better ill be sold.[close]
From what I've heard the Formula Four's is the beez neez
Theyve been riding spitfire for 10 years, you are dumb!Expand QuoteIf they couldn't get formulas 1, 2, or 3 right, chances are these wheels will blow 2[close]
You dont know what the fuck you are talking about you idiot. When several SF skateboarders have been riding these wheels for almost a year it speaks for itself.
they are great so far, but obviously pretty much any wheel will be after 2 weeks.
talk to me in 4 months
Theyve been riding spitfire for 10 years, you are dumb!Expand QuoteExpand QuoteIf they couldn't get formulas 1, 2, or 3 right, chances are these wheels will blow 2[close]
You dont know what the fuck you are talking about you idiot. When several SF skateboarders have been riding these wheels for almost a year it speaks for itself.[close]
I have a hard time believing that a wheel manufacturer would have any interest on selling wheels that last one year without increasing the price of their wheels...
Reducing radically the frequence of purchase from your customers without increasing your margin on the wheels doesn't seem to be a good marketing strategy.
I have a hard time believing that a wheel manufacturer would have any interest on selling wheels that last one year without increasing the price of their wheels...
Reducing radically the frequence of purchase from your customers without increasing your margin on the wheels doesn't seem to be a good marketing strategy.
Expand QuoteI have a hard time believing that a wheel manufacturer would have any interest on selling wheels that last one year without increasing the price of their wheels...
Reducing radically the frequence of purchase from your customers without increasing your margin on the wheels doesn't seem to be a good marketing strategy.[close]
They gotta compete with Bones, though. I'm sure a lot of people are starting to buy the STFs over Spits because they last so much longer. Me included. I don't have money to blow on wheels every single month.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI have a hard time believing that a wheel manufacturer would have any interest on selling wheels that last one year without increasing the price of their wheels...
Reducing radically the frequence of purchase from your customers without increasing your margin on the wheels doesn't seem to be a good marketing strategy.[close]
They gotta compete with Bones, though. I'm sure a lot of people are starting to buy the STFs over Spits because they last so much longer. Me included. I don't have money to blow on wheels every single month.[close]
I keep reading that people are buying wheels once a month and shit. You can't just get bigger wheels?? I don't understand.
What's the definitive colour of these wheels? Every pic on here is a different shade Are they beige? Paying for yellowing wheels seems insane to me.
Expand QuoteWhat's the definitive colour of these wheels? Every pic on here is a different shade Are they beige? Paying for yellowing wheels seems insane to me.[close]
caring that much over wheel color is insane to me
it's not like they're gonna turn neon green on you
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteWhat's the definitive colour of these wheels? Every pic on here is a different shade Are they beige? Paying for yellowing wheels seems insane to me.[close]
caring that much over wheel color is insane to me
it's not like they're gonna turn neon green on you[close]
You think Beavis and Butthead is funny.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteWhat's the definitive colour of these wheels? Every pic on here is a different shade Are they beige? Paying for yellowing wheels seems insane to me.[close]
caring that much over wheel color is insane to me
it's not like they're gonna turn neon green on you[close]
You think Beavis and Butthead is funny.[close]
fuck yeah I do. Best low brow humor of the 90's.
(http://collider.com/wp-content/uploads/beavis_and_butthead.jpg)
You might as well just not ride your board and keep them white forever if you're gonna complain about minor differences in color you baby.
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I've been skating a set for a month or so now.did you ride the 99's? Mine were an earlier prototype that just said "team edition formula 4" and they were far from grippy, so I'm guessing you have the 99's and mine were 101
I think I saw someone mention that they're like Spitfires version of STFs. Whoever said that was wrong as hell. These feel nothing like STFs. STF's are real slick and slidey, as opposed to the F4's which lean more on the grippier side when compared to STFs. Don't get me wrong, they have some slide to them, but if you're buying a set thinking you're gonna get the same slideiness as a STF wheel, then you'll be disappointed. I'd say they feel somewhat close to a SF classic in terms of how they slide and grip, just a lot more durable than an SF classic. No flatspots or little chips out of the wheel yet, so I'd say they're holding up very well so far. I don't have a car so I skate everywhere, and there's some pretty rough asphalt here, so I usually wear down wheels pretty fast, and I've noticed that these have shrunken down a teeny bit, but barely at all, so I'd say they're wearing out a very good rate. Overall I'd say they're pretty damn good wheels.
I never thought it would take this long for these wheels to come out
I couldn't wait any longer and bought the one set listed eBay for $40. They're the classic shape with the blue graphic.
I have the 101 formula 4s, and they feel even more grippy than the set of parkburners I had before this which were 99did you ride the 99's? Mine were an earlier prototype that just said "team edition formula 4" and they were far from grippy, so I'm guessing you have the 99's and mine were 101Expand QuoteI've been skating a set for a month or so now.
I think I saw someone mention that they're like Spitfires version of STFs. Whoever said that was wrong as hell. These feel nothing like STFs. STF's are real slick and slidey, as opposed to the F4's which lean more on the grippier side when compared to STFs. Don't get me wrong, they have some slide to them, but if you're buying a set thinking you're gonna get the same slideiness as a STF wheel, then you'll be disappointed. I'd say they feel somewhat close to a SF classic in terms of how they slide and grip, just a lot more durable than an SF classic. No flatspots or little chips out of the wheel yet, so I'd say they're holding up very well so far. I don't have a car so I skate everywhere, and there's some pretty rough asphalt here, so I usually wear down wheels pretty fast, and I've noticed that these have shrunken down a teeny bit, but barely at all, so I'd say they're wearing out a very good rate. Overall I'd say they're pretty damn good wheels.[close]
I've been skating a set for a month or so now.
I think I saw someone mention that they're like Spitfires version of STFs. Whoever said that was wrong as hell. These feel nothing like STFs. STF's are real slick and slidey, as opposed to the F4's which lean more on the grippier side when compared to STFs. Don't get me wrong, they have some slide to them, but if you're buying a set thinking you're gonna get the same slideiness as a STF wheel, then you'll be disappointed. I'd say they feel somewhat close to a SF classic in terms of how they slide and grip, just a lot more durable than an SF classic. No flatspots or little chips out of the wheel yet, so I'd say they're holding up very well so far. I don't have a car so I skate everywhere, and there's some pretty rough asphalt here, so I usually wear down wheels pretty fast, and I've noticed that these have shrunken down a teeny bit, but barely at all, so I'd say they're wearing out a very good rate. Overall I'd say they're pretty damn good wheels.
I've had nothing but terrible experiences with Spitfires in the past so all I've chosen for the last two years are bones. Tried going back to some F1's for a month and that got old extremely quick, but I hate how slippery bones are on certain terrains, really hoping these don't disappoint
Expand QuoteI've had nothing but terrible experiences with Spitfires in the past so all I've chosen for the last two years are bones. Tried going back to some F1's for a month and that got old extremely quick, but I hate how slippery bones are on certain terrains, really hoping these don't disappoint[close]
Sorry to be a dick but why did you kept supporting a product that you didn't like ? Any regular skate wheels feel the same as SF so why bother paying extra money for a different graphic ?
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI've had nothing but terrible experiences with Spitfires in the past so all I've chosen for the last two years are bones. Tried going back to some F1's for a month and that got old extremely quick, but I hate how slippery bones are on certain terrains, really hoping these don't disappoint[close]
Sorry to be a dick but why did you kept supporting a product that you didn't like ? Any regular skate wheels feel the same as SF so why bother paying extra money for a different graphic ?[close]
Thought to give them a chance after hearing multiple people come through the shop saying they liked them. Bones are completely different from spits.
Darin says two weeks and they'll be in shops. Plus I've seen pic recently of the wheels in their retail packaging.nice, right at the end of summer when most young skaters are spending the majority of their time skating and not going back to school
So...
Two weeks
I hope these things are worth the wait.
Darin says two weeks and they'll be in shops. Plus I've seen pic recently of the wheels in their retail packaging.
So...
Two weeks
Btw: anyone know the price point of the Formula Fours?
now available on ccs...
http://shop.ccs.com/product/model:205838/sku:65-06732/spitfire-formula-four-classic-wheels/blue/white/?cm=GLOBAL%20SEARCH%3A%20KEYWORD%20SEARCH#sku=65-06734&size=54 (http://shop.ccs.com/product/model:205838/sku:65-06732/spitfire-formula-four-classic-wheels/blue/white/?cm=GLOBAL%20SEARCH%3A%20KEYWORD%20SEARCH#sku=65-06734&size=54)
I can see that, I guess I should of worded it differently. There's more shipping tomorrow so might as well consider them available. I saw some sizes left and only posted this to show the price and that they were available online. :)Expand Quotenow available on ccs...
http://shop.ccs.com/product/model:205838/sku:65-06732/spitfire-formula-four-classic-wheels/blue/white/?cm=GLOBAL%20SEARCH%3A%20KEYWORD%20SEARCH#sku=65-06734&size=54 (http://shop.ccs.com/product/model:205838/sku:65-06732/spitfire-formula-four-classic-wheels/blue/white/?cm=GLOBAL%20SEARCH%3A%20KEYWORD%20SEARCH#sku=65-06734&size=54)[close]
Nope, all back ordered or sold out, try again :)
Saw somebody at the park yesterday with the same F4s as me. It felt like finding a rare Pokemon in the wild.
That's because CCS are a piece of shit company that will sell things that they don't have. They've had them listed for months now, and they change the ship date everyday for infinite tomorrows. This way, people go and say oh! they ship tomorrow! but in fact, CCS has no idea when they are actually getting them.I can see that, I guess I should have* worded it differently. There's more shipping tomorrow so might as well consider them available. I saw some sizes left and only posted this to show the price and that they were available online. :)Expand QuoteExpand Quotenow available on ccs...
http://shop.ccs.com/product/model:205838/sku:65-06732/spitfire-formula-four-classic-wheels/blue/white/?cm=GLOBAL%20SEARCH%3A%20KEYWORD%20SEARCH#sku=65-06734&size=54 (http://shop.ccs.com/product/model:205838/sku:65-06732/spitfire-formula-four-classic-wheels/blue/white/?cm=GLOBAL%20SEARCH%3A%20KEYWORD%20SEARCH#sku=65-06734&size=54)[close]
Nope, all back ordered or sold out, try again :)[close]
Its not CCS it's the fact that Spitfire is a dumbass company that can't make enough good wheels to ship out. They are more expensive than STF ffsThat's because CCS are a piece of shit company that will sell things that they don't have. They've had them listed for months now, and they change the ship date everyday for infinite tomorrows. This way, people go and say oh! they ship tomorrow! but in fact, CCS has no idea when they are actually getting them.Expand QuoteI can see that, I guess I should have* worded it differently. There's more shipping tomorrow so might as well consider them available. I saw some sizes left and only posted this to show the price and that they were available online. :)Expand QuoteExpand Quotenow available on ccs...
http://shop.ccs.com/product/model:205838/sku:65-06732/spitfire-formula-four-classic-wheels/blue/white/?cm=GLOBAL%20SEARCH%3A%20KEYWORD%20SEARCH#sku=65-06734&size=54 (http://shop.ccs.com/product/model:205838/sku:65-06732/spitfire-formula-four-classic-wheels/blue/white/?cm=GLOBAL%20SEARCH%3A%20KEYWORD%20SEARCH#sku=65-06734&size=54)[close]
Nope, all back ordered or sold out, try again :)[close][close]
DLX told me they were going to be in shops in the "middle" of August, but I think they'd rather just not let people down with something that has been so hyped.
Spanish ripper killing it for SpitfireMore important than F4s, what was that witchcraft at 1:53?
Formula-Four Spitfire Commercial by E?aut Oyarbide (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdBkFMqLKvg#ws)
DLX told me they were going to be in shops in the "middle" of August, but I think they'd rather just not let people down with something that has been so hyped.I have a feeling that they are seriously overdoing it with the hype and building them up. Like I said earlier in my little review about them, I think they're good wheels, but I have a feeling that some people are going to be expecting some sort of miracle magic wheel and then be thoroughly disappointed when they find out that they're just normal wheels that just happen to be pretty good and a bit more durable than your average wheel.
I have yet to try the 101 f4, but 99s feel pretty magical to meQuoteI have a feeling that they are seriously overdoing it with the hype and building them up. Like I said earlier in my little review about them, I think they're good wheels, but I have a feeling that some people are going to be expecting some sort of miracle magic wheel and then be thoroughly disappointed when they find out that they're just normal wheels that just happen to be pretty good and a bit more durable than your average wheel.Expand QuoteDLX told me they were going to be in shops in the "middle" of August, but I think they'd rather just not let people down with something that has been so hyped.[close]
More important than F4s, what was that witchcraft at 1:53?Expand QuoteSpanish ripper killing it for Spitfire
Formula-Four Spitfire Commercial by E?aut Oyarbide (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdBkFMqLKvg#ws)[close]
there a tons of good wheel companies out there.
Anyone ever ride Satori Mandala wheels? I ride Parkburners, but am interested in the Mandala as they are also 98a.
Spanish ripper killing it for Spitfire
Formula-Four Spitfire Commercial by E?aut Oyarbide (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdBkFMqLKvg#ws)
This may be a dumb question, but are 99s or 101s harder?
Expand QuoteThis may be a dumb question, but are 99s or 101s harder?[close]
Both durometers are part of the A scale.
101a > 99a
101a wheels are harder than 99a wheels by two points of the A scale.
I've been staring at a shopping cart with both 99a and 101a wheels sitting in it. Such a small gap in duro. I'm a fan of the classics so I am leaning towards the 99a classics (and since I'm not skating any park, where I'd want a harder wheel), I guess I should stick to the 99a.
Any word on color wheels? I am bored of white wheels but really want to try out these new Spitfires!
I'd recommend the 99's for asphaltGood, because that's what I got.
I can't hold powerslides for shit and I've been riding STFs for the last few years so I'm not sure which duro I should grab.
I can't hold powerslides for shit and I've been riding STFs for the last few years so I'm not sure which duro I should grab.
Ugh, been putting off buying wheels for these things, still none in the shop. 45 minutes from San Francisco and we can't get the wheels! I blame the rep.
Fucking Atlas can get them but Circle A can't?Expand QuoteUgh, been putting off buying wheels for these things, still none in the shop. 45 minutes from San Francisco and we can't get the wheels! I blame the rep.[close]
They're probably worth the drive to 1831 Market Street... Just sayin'
Ugh, been putting off buying wheels for these things, still none in the shop. 45 minutes from San Francisco and we can't get the wheels! I blame the rep.What shop do you go to? 510 and milo got em!
Fucking Atlas can get them but Circle A can't?Expand QuoteExpand QuoteUgh, been putting off buying wheels for these things, still none in the shop. 45 minutes from San Francisco and we can't get the wheels! I blame the rep.[close]
They're probably worth the drive to 1831 Market Street... Just sayin'[close]
cant wait to try those when they arrive in central europe in 2 or 3 years.
^^ Ive wanted to try these out but had a feeling that may occur. Ive flatspotted my bones before but they somehow even themselves out...you think that'll happen with your fours or are they completely done?Plenty of testimonials from people in this topic who have ridden them for months and had no issues.
cant wait to try those when they arrive in central europe in 2 or 3 years.
Ugh, been putting off buying wheels for these things, still none in the shop. 45 minutes from San Francisco and we can't get the wheels! I blame the rep.
I really like the 101's. They slide like STFs but don't feel like shit.
The 99s are awesome too, but the 101's are exactly what I've been wanting in a wheel. Also, love the Tablet shape.
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Yeah, similar the the bones v2 shape, flip sidecuts, etc.Expand QuoteI really like the 101's. They slide like STFs but don't feel like shit.
The 99s are awesome too, but the 101's are exactly what I've been wanting in a wheel. Also, love the Tablet shape.
(http://www.spitfirewheels.com/formulafour/img/specs-101dt.png)[close]
I wanted to try out the 101 Tablet shape - is it similar to a "lock in" shape, Firebert?
i got a little problem, my bearings are sliding out of the wheels. So im constantly checking and always having to push the bearings back in with my thumbs
is this happening to anyone else? hope im not the only one
The idea of a cored wheel in 56-58 with the formula four urethane I would buy too. I know the super light marketing gets a lot of criticism, but it is nice to have best of both at parks. Weight doesn't really matter too much on big transitions. But for parks that have ledges and "street course" obstacles I can be a little more consistent on a lighter setup. Wheel weight seems to affect my ability maybe because it is further out and not centralized. So it can make a board feel heavier.
I have had setups with heavy trucks and light wheels. And light trucks with heavier wheels. With both weighing the same, the heavy wheeled board responds differently and the weight is felt. Not bad, just different. Maybe it is the center of gravity. Similar to the idea behind Low Pro decks, which some immediately like and others are indifferent to.
And 8.38/8.5 low pro with titanium hollow 149ers with the idea of formula four FireLites in 56-58mm would make for a legit all terrain board that does not respond like a super tanker. No gimmicks, just sound physics. I have many heavier setups which skate well. But am open to going lighter if gear is made by legit brands for legit reasons.
Im asking a friend who is flying to New York in two weeks to buy me a pair!
Because these wheels will go for like 70-90 dollars in Sweden.
Does anyone from there know any shops who has them yet?
Im asking a friend who is flying to New York in two weeks to buy me a pair!Hollywood in Gothenburg has them and they'll be up on the webshop next week, they're 499:-
Because these wheels will go for like 70-90 dollars in Sweden.
Does anyone from there know any shops who has them yet?
I've noticed prices all over the board for them. From $39.95 to $55. What's the MSRP?
Some "skateshops"...ahem... are shady as fuck these days.
I've noticed prices all over the board for them. From $39.95 to $55. What's the MSRP?
Some "skateshops"...ahem... are shady as fuck these days.
29.95 on so cal skateshopThat's where I ordered mine.
http://socalskateshop.com/index.php?l=product_list&c=1955&l=product_list&sortby=id:desc (http://socalskateshop.com/index.php?l=product_list&c=1955&l=product_list&sortby=id:desc)
Most spitfires at 510 skateboarding in bekreley always had em for $28 and bones stfs were $35 so I'm sure the formula 4s should be about the same as regular spits. There's no price difference between regular spitfires and the f1sSuggested retail from deluxe is $35.00
I've been skating strictly bones stf's for around four years now. How hard would it be to get used to the 99a formula fours?The classic shaped 99s slide really well and screech, but 101's will be a better replacement.
Has anyone made the transition from Bones STF's to 99a Formula Fours?
I love the feel of sliding really well on ledges that aren't caked with wax, but it's a bitch to slide out at parks all of the time.
If anything, I'll just opt for the 101a wheels --- I'm just looking for some feedback
I've been skating strictly bones stf's for around four years now. How hard would it be to get used to the 99a formula fours?
Has anyone made the transition from Bones STF's to 99a Formula Fours?
I love the feel of sliding really well on ledges that aren't caked with wax, but it's a bitch to slide out at parks all of the time.
If anything, I'll just opt for the 101a wheels --- I'm just looking for some feedback
These F4's are the truth, I was shocked how responsive they are. If everyone's wheels are sliding like mine are, expect the next magenta vid to literally be the silliest shit of all time hahaha.I was thinking the same thing as I was powersliding over double pump humps and down stairs at the park
its kind of stupid how slick the 101s are... it doesn't even feel like a powerslide and makes no noise :( i might have to get the 99sDid you get new bearings as well?
its kind of stupid how slick the 101s are... it doesn't even feel like a powerslide and makes no noise :( i might have to get the 99sI've had my 101s for a little over a week now and they are starting to screech
yeah, the first few slides were slippery as fuck, but they're getting better!I've had my 101s for a little over a week now and they are starting to screechExpand Quoteits kind of stupid how slick the 101s are... it doesn't even feel like a powerslide and makes no noise :( i might have to get the 99s[close]
Did you get new bearings as well?Expand Quoteits kind of stupid how slick the 101s are... it doesn't even feel like a powerslide and makes no noise :( i might have to get the 99s[close]
Do you tighten your wheels up a lot too?
Both those things make new wheels feel a bit weird.
Just a thought.
Spitfire is blowing it lately Darkstar and Bones have flatspot guarantees on their wheels. If formula 4 doesn't work out I will never trust them againBones doesn't have that anymore
so i've been riding f1's for the last 2 years and they work great. im really looking forward to trying the f4's.. i know the f1's are 101..how's the difference from f1's to the 101 f4's??night and day
I was all excited after I set them up last Friday, I hauled ass out of my apartment complex, got 50 feet and hit a pebble and ate shit, hard. Flatspot in literally 30 seconds. I thought it might skate out, but no luck so far.
I was all excited after I set them up last Friday, I hauled ass out of my apartment complex, got 50 feet and hit a pebble and ate shit, hard. Flatspot in literally 30 seconds. I thought it might skate out, but no luck so far.Post up A pic so we can see.
(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g98/dillanharp/2C8EF279-F1D2-400B-B8CA-D189B5FC855B-3297-00000151A56C6783_zps323d0ee3.jpg)verdict is in
Verdict? Show me any wheel that can withstand a similar situation.Those are brand new wheels, I'd be pissed. You coudn't flatspot stfs if you tried.
F4s stepped the game up a notch after 30 years of urethane wheels.
But he didn't flatspot his by trying. He hit a rock going fast which would've made a STF wheel flatspot too.Those are brand new wheels, I'd be pissed. You coudn't flatspot stfs if you tried.Expand QuoteVerdict? Show me any wheel that can withstand a similar situation.
F4s stepped the game up a notch after 30 years of urethane wheels.[close]
Verdict? Show me any wheel that can withstand a similar situation.
F4s stepped the game up a notch after 30 years of urethane wheels.
Ahh hitting a rock at high speeds the cause of flatspots since 2013But he didn't flatspot his by trying. He hit a rock going fast which would've made a STF wheel flatspot too.Expand QuoteThose are brand new wheels, I'd be pissed. You coudn't flatspot stfs if you tried.Expand QuoteVerdict? Show me any wheel that can withstand a similar situation.
F4s stepped the game up a notch after 30 years of urethane wheels.[close][close]
pretty sure darkstar just has that because not enough people ride their wheels to prove them wrong.
Ahh hitting a rock at high speeds the cause of flatspots since 2013Expand QuoteBut he didn't flatspot his by trying. He hit a rock going fast which would've made a STF wheel flatspot too.Expand QuoteThose are brand new wheels, I'd be pissed. You coudn't flatspot stfs if you tried.Expand QuoteVerdict? Show me any wheel that can withstand a similar situation.
F4s stepped the game up a notch after 30 years of urethane wheels.[close][close][close]
Are you serious?
I was all excited after I set them up last Friday, I hauled ass out of my apartment complex, got 50 feet and hit a pebble and ate shit, hard. Flatspot in literally 30 seconds. I thought it might skate out, but no luck so far.
Expand QuoteI was all excited after I set them up last Friday, I hauled ass out of my apartment complex, got 50 feet and hit a pebble and ate shit, hard. Flatspot in literally 30 seconds. I thought it might skate out, but no luck so far.[close]
Sorry that happened man. Please shoot an email to [email protected] and he will make sure to get you hooked up.
Liking these wheels so far, can actually hold a powerslide sideways instead of spinning out like i did on other wheels,
only complaint and its an visual one, the full shape i thought would be as close too the squareish SFW shape which i love,
but it seems too have a rounder edge, apart from that, i can't fault them.
Expand QuoteLiking these wheels so far, can actually hold a powerslide sideways instead of spinning out like i did on other wheels,
only complaint and its an visual one, the full shape i thought would be as close too the squareish SFW shape which i love,
but it seems too have a rounder edge, apart from that, i can't fault them.[close]
Stoked you're digging the wheels. We're working on more shapes/sizes for the future, the Manderson shape is definitely on the radar
Expand QuoteLiking these wheels so far, can actually hold a powerslide sideways instead of spinning out like i did on other wheels,
only complaint and its an visual one, the full shape i thought would be as close too the squareish SFW shape which i love,
but it seems too have a rounder edge, apart from that, i can't fault them.[close]
Stoked you're digging the wheels. We're working on more shapes/sizes for the future, the Manderson shape is definitely on the radar
i'm going to get me a set of these but i'm not exactly sure which ones i should buy. i'm interested on how they perform for powerslides, lipslides on ledges/curbs and hill-bombing. i mainly skate street. not much of a park rat.
are the 101s too slick? should i go with the 99s/classic shape?
Despite the mostly positive things mentioned in this thread and elsewhere, I have yet to sell many F4s at the shop surprisingly.Well, like any good shop owner/employee to move product you need to back it. Meaning try them out, give endorsements,run promotions, help advertise whatever it is and make sure to always give positive re enforcement.
Well, like any good shop owner/employee to move product you need to back it. Meaning try them out, give endorsements,run promotions, help advertise whatever it is and make sure to always give positive re enforcement.Expand QuoteDespite the mostly positive things mentioned in this thread and elsewhere, I have yet to sell many F4s at the shop surprisingly.[close]
Otherwise the product gets lost in the case. Without you showing people that a superior quality product(whatever it might be)is available then of course only a few will search them out.
Jus sayin.
I'd guess that it's because kids don't like the color or the slightly higher price, because they don't think in the long term.Expand QuoteWell, like any good shop owner/employee to move product you need to back it. Meaning try them out, give endorsements,run promotions, help advertise whatever it is and make sure to always give positive re enforcement.Expand QuoteDespite the mostly positive things mentioned in this thread and elsewhere, I have yet to sell many F4s at the shop surprisingly.[close]
Otherwise the product gets lost in the case. Without you showing people that a superior quality product(whatever it might be)is available then of course only a few will search them out.
Jus sayin.[close]
It's not like I don't try to sell them. We advertise them plenty and we relay everything about their superiority. In fact, I've never said anything about them negatively. It's just a thing right now I guess.
I think kids do not give a fuck on any improvement in skateboarding wheel technologies. Since they don't have necessarily a lot of money they will get the cheapest models made by spitfire or bones, maybe pigs or ricta if they are into their marketing.
Do you guys really flatspot wheels in one week? And even if you flatspot, doesn't it disappear after a couple of sessions?Expand QuoteI think kids do not give a fuck on any improvement in skateboarding wheel technologies. Since they don't have necessarily a lot of money they will get the cheapest models made by spitfire or bones, maybe pigs or ricta if they are into their marketing.[close]
that's usually what I tell them. If they get a cheaper wheel, there's a chance that they'll flat spot in a week and then they're going to wish they spent that extra 7$ on the F4s
been skating the Bones V2 shape over the years, so decided to try out the F4 Tablets...
havent set them up yet, but here's a visual comparison of a Bones STF 54mm V2 to a Spit F4 101a 53mm Tablet
(http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/ag108/arthellman1/spit1_zps8f3053ad.jpg)
(http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/ag108/arthellman1/spit2_zps6f71b8e7.jpeg)
^^ oh no bro! this is just like the time I thought my trucks weighed 42.453 grams and not 43.476 grams.
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That's the Rat Bones II shape, the same as all the SPF bowl wheels. They do also make this shape in STF, but only on the Skatopia wheel.Or these
Expand Quote^^ oh no bro! this is just like the time I thought my trucks weighed 42.453 grams and not 43.476 grams.?
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Hey, was just letting you know so you didn't judge the difference between 2 completely different shaped wheels.
these wheels are fucking great, same spitfire feel with an even more controlled slide. someone should let me know some details on the shrinkage thoJust checked mine out right now, they started off as 53mm, and two and a half months later they're just barely smaller than a set of new 52s I had laying around.
Just checked mine out right now, they started off as 53mm, and two and a half months later they're just barely smaller than a set of new 52s I had laying around.Expand Quotethese wheels are fucking great, same spitfire feel with an even more controlled slide. someone should let me know some details on the shrinkage tho[close]
had high expectations due to all the hype here. they are even better than that.
Expand Quotebeen skating the Bones V2 shape over the years, so decided to try out the F4 Tablets...
havent set them up yet, but here's a visual comparison of a Bones STF 54mm V2 to a Spit F4 101a 53mm Tablet
(http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/ag108/arthellman1/spit1_zps8f3053ad.jpg)
(http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/ag108/arthellman1/spit2_zps6f71b8e7.jpeg)[close]
Sorry bro, that's not a Bones V2 wheel. That's the Rat Bones II shape, the same as all the SPF bowl wheels. They come in 54x31, 56x32, 58x33 and 60x43...you have the 54 SPF's in that shape. They do also make this shape in STF, but only on the Skatopia wheel.
The Bones V2 is thinner width wise, and is completely flat on both sides, no cut in for weight like on your wheels, and less round on the lip. They look just like those Spitfire tablets. Sorry dude, whoever told you they that you had V2's was confused.
Just to clarify, you're complaining about how shitty your wheels look after skating them for 3 months?I'm just saying that that's the only thing wrong with the wheel. Didn't expect it to look good by this time, I'm just pointing it out.
And how should wheels look after being skated for that long?
Still tryna hold out for that next batch of PFCs...it's getting hard though.just give it up homie, F4s are better. if PFC ever puts some new shit out and your strapped for cash then you can pick some up. but i can honestly say im pretty sure you wont be disappointed in F4s.
just give it up homie, F4s are better. if PFC ever puts some new shit out and your strapped for cash then you can pick some up. but i can honestly say im pretty sure you wont be disappointed in F4s.Expand QuoteStill tryna hold out for that next batch of PFCs...it's getting hard though.[close]
I love mine so much. I have the 53mm 99d full shape. They slide really easily but they aren't slippery. I bust hella power slides cause my area is full of hills. No flatspots, haven't gotten smaller yet. They are much lighter and slimmer than my SFW . Im sticking with these for sure. I already loved spitfire. These wheels just seal the deal though
Thanks, yeah the super reds were new ((minilogos are actually a few months older), mine are the 101d. If i just spin the wheels with the board in my hand they spin fast and long, so i def think it's the wheels and not the bearings.
Expand QuoteThanks, yeah the super reds were new ((minilogos are actually a few months older), mine are the 101d. If i just spin the wheels with the board in my hand they spin fast and long, so i def think it's the wheels and not the bearings.[close]
Yeah, it's the wheels. For sure. ::)
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteThanks, yeah the super reds were new ((minilogos are actually a few months older), mine are the 101d. If i just spin the wheels with the board in my hand they spin fast and long, so i def think it's the wheels and not the bearings.[close]
Yeah, it's the wheels. For sure. ::)[close]
hahahaha damn b
(http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b615/sweatstainsslap/Snapbucket/88FB67E3_zps7bb31e64.jpg?t=1381367926)how are your rollerblades holding up?
Stoked on these. Set up some Streetburners before I put these on, skated them for a day and they felt so bad in comparison that I had to set these up. I prefer the 101 F4s that I had before this though.
Expand Quotejust give it up homie, F4s are better. if PFC ever puts some new shit out and your strapped for cash then you can pick some up. but i can honestly say im pretty sure you wont be disappointed in F4s.Expand QuoteStill tryna hold out for that next batch of PFCs...it's getting hard though.[close][close]
Responded to this with a post on my phone but it wouldnt let me submit it. Suffice to say I imagine that the F4s probably are a bit better, but I enjoy supporting smaller companies whose ideals and direction appeal to me and are inline with my own. I'm sure I'll get some F4s down the line (skating some old-ass Classics now) but my next set gonna be PFCs.
I really want a set of 53-54mm 101 tablets but for some reason they just aren't available in the UK at all. I'm rolling on coned, flatspotted, worn-ass f1s at the moment and my resolve to not just buy some bones as I can actually get them is weakening more and more every time I skate. :(
Expand QuoteI really want a set of 53-54mm 101 tablets but for some reason they just aren't available in the UK at all. I'm rolling on coned, flatspotted, worn-ass f1s at the moment and my resolve to not just buy some bones as I can actually get them is weakening more and more every time I skate. :([close]
I just ordered 53mm 101 from rollersnakes the other day...
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI really want a set of 53-54mm 101 tablets but for some reason they just aren't available in the UK at all. I'm rolling on coned, flatspotted, worn-ass f1s at the moment and my resolve to not just buy some bones as I can actually get them is weakening more and more every time I skate. :([close]
I just ordered 53mm 101 from rollersnakes the other day...[close]
Not tablet shape. I know I'm being picky but I'd much rather skate those as I loved the equivalent STF shape but much prefer the feel of Spitfire urethane. Shiner don't seem to have the tablets yet and they're pretty much the only way the UK gets DLX shit as far as I know. Also trying not to fuck with rollersnakes/r1 or any of that shit unless absolutely necessary.
Expand QuoteNot tablet shape. I know I'm being picky but I'd much rather skate those as I loved the equivalent STF shape but much prefer the feel of Spitfire urethane. Shiner don't seem to have the tablets yet and they're pretty much the only way the UK gets DLX shit as far as I know. Also trying not to fuck with rollersnakes/r1 or any of that shit unless absolutely necessary.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI really want a set of 53-54mm 101 tablets but for some reason they just aren't available in the UK at all. I'm rolling on coned, flatspotted, worn-ass f1s at the moment and my resolve to not just buy some bones as I can actually get them is weakening more and more every time I skate. :([close]
I just ordered 53mm 101 from rollersnakes the other day...[close][close]
Following my earlier post Christian from DLX got in touch and is hooking it up. Huge thanks to Christian and DLX for this. It's been said a million times on SLAP already but you guys are the best at taking care of your customers and it really is appreciated.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteNot tablet shape. I know I'm being picky but I'd much rather skate those as I loved the equivalent STF shape but much prefer the feel of Spitfire urethane. Shiner don't seem to have the tablets yet and they're pretty much the only way the UK gets DLX shit as far as I know. Also trying not to fuck with rollersnakes/r1 or any of that shit unless absolutely necessary.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI really want a set of 53-54mm 101 tablets but for some reason they just aren't available in the UK at all. I'm rolling on coned, flatspotted, worn-ass f1s at the moment and my resolve to not just buy some bones as I can actually get them is weakening more and more every time I skate. :([close]
I just ordered 53mm 101 from rollersnakes the other day...[close][close]
Following my earlier post Christian from DLX got in touch and is hooking it up. Huge thanks to Christian and DLX for this. It's been said a million times on SLAP already but you guys are the best at taking care of your customers and it really is appreciated.[close]
He's good people. Hooked me up after I managed to flatspot the tablets, but he sent classics
Just got these!!! Legit. Any colored F-4's coming out in the future?
Just got these!!! Legit. Any colored F-4's coming out in the future?
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5466/9490556605_73456d6f71.jpg)
I rode a friend's board with bones on it yesterday just for a few minutes and all I have to say is that it felt awful
Green ones have been available for the testing public also for a couple of years... To me, they're officially the best feeling F4s and feel different from the one's I purchased from the shop.Expand QuoteJust got these!!! Legit. Any colored F-4's coming out in the future?[close]
Some of their pros are rolling on green ones in some IG photos out there.
How long a lifespan are you guys getting out of these, ive had them on for a couple months
so i got some 101 oj's coming off of some f4 fulls and i miss the spits already, its just full shape turned out being a bit too grippy in the streets once they got soft. the OJ's are better but I could still use a little more slide. Do you think I should opt for the 101 f4's next or was the grippiness of the 99's just due to the wider riding surface? anyone skate both duros and wanna lemme know wasup?
Expand Quoteso i got some 101 oj's coming off of some f4 fulls and i miss the spits already, its just full shape turned out being a bit too grippy in the streets once they got soft. the OJ's are better but I could still use a little more slide. Do you think I should opt for the 101 f4's next or was the grippiness of the 99's just due to the wider riding surface? anyone skate both duros and wanna lemme know wasup?[close]
Here's the thing with the F4's. (in my own personal experience)
I've been riding F4's for about a year and a few months in, it started with the green ones (and some blueish ones) that Damon sent me. Those were THE BEST F4's I've ridden. It seemed too perfect. I dont want to rely on the Slap cliche but I do skate hills as much as I can.
Now, the ones they released for the public are the ones everyone is riding. Right now I have the blue ones (99 duro) and those are great. I've had the 101 duro and those were also prime. The difference that I felt with the 101's is that they felt close to F1's. I still heard that signature Spitfire screech the wheels make when you powerslide and they did flatspot (albeit VERY TINY which went away after skating two hours straight). The 99 duros that I have right now are the grippiest (a bit "gummy" if that makes sense) wheels I've had. I powerslide in these and they have not flatspotted at all. But I do get a bit annoyed sometimes of the gumminess of the wheel especially when I'm skating ledges; they seem to stick to the ledge more than the 101 Duro F4's. All in all, both wheels are the best wheels in the market right now (i'm not knocking down Bones, they make great wheels as well but that plastic feel is the reason why I gave up on them) and Spitfire deserves the amount of praise they've been getting lately because of the F4's.
Just consider the type of skating you do, whether parks, street, whatever, and pick whichever wheel would go best with you. I skate street more often than parks so the next wheels I'm going to skate (and for a long while) would be the 101A Duros. Just try 'em out.
Expand QuoteExpand Quoteso i got some 101 oj's coming off of some f4 fulls and i miss the spits already, its just full shape turned out being a bit too grippy in the streets once they got soft. the OJ's are better but I could still use a little more slide. Do you think I should opt for the 101 f4's next or was the grippiness of the 99's just due to the wider riding surface? anyone skate both duros and wanna lemme know wasup?[close]
Here's the thing with the F4's. (in my own personal experience)
I've been riding F4's for about a year and a few months in, it started with the green ones (and some blueish ones) that Damon sent me. Those were THE BEST F4's I've ridden. It seemed too perfect. I dont want to rely on the Slap cliche but I do skate hills as much as I can.
Now, the ones they released for the public are the ones everyone is riding. Right now I have the blue ones (99 duro) and those are great. I've had the 101 duro and those were also prime. The difference that I felt with the 101's is that they felt close to F1's. I still heard that signature Spitfire screech the wheels make when you powerslide and they did flatspot (albeit VERY TINY which went away after skating two hours straight). The 99 duros that I have right now are the grippiest (a bit "gummy" if that makes sense) wheels I've had. I powerslide in these and they have not flatspotted at all. But I do get a bit annoyed sometimes of the gumminess of the wheel especially when I'm skating ledges; they seem to stick to the ledge more than the 101 Duro F4's. All in all, both wheels are the best wheels in the market right now (i'm not knocking down Bones, they make great wheels as well but that plastic feel is the reason why I gave up on them) and Spitfire deserves the amount of praise they've been getting lately because of the F4's.
Just consider the type of skating you do, whether parks, street, whatever, and pick whichever wheel would go best with you. I skate street more often than parks so the next wheels I'm going to skate (and for a long while) would be the 101A Duros. Just try 'em out.[close]
wow son good looks! made the choice really easy. once these oj's are dead im definitely gonna cop some 101's since i rlly liked streetburners too
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quoteso i got some 101 oj's coming off of some f4 fulls and i miss the spits already, its just full shape turned out being a bit too grippy in the streets once they got soft. the OJ's are better but I could still use a little more slide. Do you think I should opt for the 101 f4's next or was the grippiness of the 99's just due to the wider riding surface? anyone skate both duros and wanna lemme know wasup?[close]
Here's the thing with the F4's. (in my own personal experience)
I've been riding F4's for about a year and a few months in, it started with the green ones (and some blueish ones) that Damon sent me. Those were THE BEST F4's I've ridden. It seemed too perfect. I dont want to rely on the Slap cliche but I do skate hills as much as I can.
Now, the ones they released for the public are the ones everyone is riding. Right now I have the blue ones (99 duro) and those are great. I've had the 101 duro and those were also prime. The difference that I felt with the 101's is that they felt close to F1's. I still heard that signature Spitfire screech the wheels make when you powerslide and they did flatspot (albeit VERY TINY which went away after skating two hours straight). The 99 duros that I have right now are the grippiest (a bit "gummy" if that makes sense) wheels I've had. I powerslide in these and they have not flatspotted at all. But I do get a bit annoyed sometimes of the gumminess of the wheel especially when I'm skating ledges; they seem to stick to the ledge more than the 101 Duro F4's. All in all, both wheels are the best wheels in the market right now (i'm not knocking down Bones, they make great wheels as well but that plastic feel is the reason why I gave up on them) and Spitfire deserves the amount of praise they've been getting lately because of the F4's.
Just consider the type of skating you do, whether parks, street, whatever, and pick whichever wheel would go best with you. I skate street more often than parks so the next wheels I'm going to skate (and for a long while) would be the 101A Duros. Just try 'em out.[close]
wow son good looks! made the choice really easy. once these oj's are dead im definitely gonna cop some 101's since i rlly liked streetburners too[close]
no problem dad, anything for you
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quoteso i got some 101 oj's coming off of some f4 fulls and i miss the spits already, its just full shape turned out being a bit too grippy in the streets once they got soft. the OJ's are better but I could still use a little more slide. Do you think I should opt for the 101 f4's next or was the grippiness of the 99's just due to the wider riding surface? anyone skate both duros and wanna lemme know wasup?[close]
Here's the thing with the F4's. (in my own personal experience)
I've been riding F4's for about a year and a few months in, it started with the green ones (and some blueish ones) that Damon sent me. Those were THE BEST F4's I've ridden. It seemed too perfect. I dont want to rely on the Slap cliche but I do skate hills as much as I can.
Now, the ones they released for the public are the ones everyone is riding. Right now I have the blue ones (99 duro) and those are great. I've had the 101 duro and those were also prime. The difference that I felt with the 101's is that they felt close to F1's. I still heard that signature Spitfire screech the wheels make when you powerslide and they did flatspot (albeit VERY TINY which went away after skating two hours straight). The 99 duros that I have right now are the grippiest (a bit "gummy" if that makes sense) wheels I've had. I powerslide in these and they have not flatspotted at all. But I do get a bit annoyed sometimes of the gumminess of the wheel especially when I'm skating ledges; they seem to stick to the ledge more than the 101 Duro F4's. All in all, both wheels are the best wheels in the market right now (i'm not knocking down Bones, they make great wheels as well but that plastic feel is the reason why I gave up on them) and Spitfire deserves the amount of praise they've been getting lately because of the F4's.
Just consider the type of skating you do, whether parks, street, whatever, and pick whichever wheel would go best with you. I skate street more often than parks so the next wheels I'm going to skate (and for a long while) would be the 101A Duros. Just try 'em out.[close]
wow son good looks! made the choice really easy. once these oj's are dead im definitely gonna cop some 101's since i rlly liked streetburners too[close]
no problem dad, anything for you[close]
lol, not tryna be that dude, but did you find the 101's were at least somewhat grippy? im not tryna be spinnin out doughnuts on transitions and shit
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quoteso i got some 101 oj's coming off of some f4 fulls and i miss the spits already, its just full shape turned out being a bit too grippy in the streets once they got soft. the OJ's are better but I could still use a little more slide. Do you think I should opt for the 101 f4's next or was the grippiness of the 99's just due to the wider riding surface? anyone skate both duros and wanna lemme know wasup?[close]
Here's the thing with the F4's. (in my own personal experience)
I've been riding F4's for about a year and a few months in, it started with the green ones (and some blueish ones) that Damon sent me. Those were THE BEST F4's I've ridden. It seemed too perfect. I dont want to rely on the Slap cliche but I do skate hills as much as I can.
Now, the ones they released for the public are the ones everyone is riding. Right now I have the blue ones (99 duro) and those are great. I've had the 101 duro and those were also prime. The difference that I felt with the 101's is that they felt close to F1's. I still heard that signature Spitfire screech the wheels make when you powerslide and they did flatspot (albeit VERY TINY which went away after skating two hours straight). The 99 duros that I have right now are the grippiest (a bit "gummy" if that makes sense) wheels I've had. I powerslide in these and they have not flatspotted at all. But I do get a bit annoyed sometimes of the gumminess of the wheel especially when I'm skating ledges; they seem to stick to the ledge more than the 101 Duro F4's. All in all, both wheels are the best wheels in the market right now (i'm not knocking down Bones, they make great wheels as well but that plastic feel is the reason why I gave up on them) and Spitfire deserves the amount of praise they've been getting lately because of the F4's.
Just consider the type of skating you do, whether parks, street, whatever, and pick whichever wheel would go best with you. I skate street more often than parks so the next wheels I'm going to skate (and for a long while) would be the 101A Duros. Just try 'em out.[close]
wow son good looks! made the choice really easy. once these oj's are dead im definitely gonna cop some 101's since i rlly liked streetburners too[close]
no problem dad, anything for you[close]
lol, not tryna be that dude, but did you find the 101's were at least somewhat grippy? im not tryna be spinnin out doughnuts on transitions and shit
The 99's are grippier if that gives you an idea
101's are slick as shit if you're skating parks or areas with smooth ground. I would literally jump down stairs and slide out sideways upon impact. i tried to skate mine for like a week or so but couldn't do it because i was slipping out with damn near everything. 99's work for me just fine tho. If still lived back in illinois i'd probably be riding the 101's cuz the ground is a lot rougher there, but theres no way id skate them out here on the west coast.
Does anyone know if they make the 99 in a size bigger than 58?Not yet Tom. Seems like expanding the shape/size choices is slow going until they can master producing them in larger numbers.
It's the indoor park time of year so it's rightfully vert season. I know a couple of millimeters don't make that much of a difference, but the taller the wheel size the wider the riding surface with their full shape wheels. I also don't want Bones because I've always been a spitfire kind of person
i buckled down and had orchard order me the 58's and thunder 151's. now I just have to wait for them to come in. Still riding my 54's on my street setup. A little chunk came out of one of the wheels, but I also skate down really crappy New England roads on a daily basis. Besides that they're still going strong; pretty much the same shape, size, and color as the day I set them up. They also haven't gone soft on me. When I'd ride the street burners, especially the colored ones, they'd sometimes go soft after a few weeks and I could feel my speed decreasing over time. These are still going fastNot yet Tom. Seems like expanding the shape/size choices is slow going until they can master producing them in larger numbers.Expand QuoteDoes anyone know if they make the 99 in a size bigger than 58?
It's the indoor park time of year so it's rightfully vert season. I know a couple of millimeters don't make that much of a difference, but the taller the wheel size the wider the riding surface with their full shape wheels. I also don't want Bones because I've always been a spitfire kind of person[close]
I am hoping they cut back on the 50-52 choices and add a few more 57-60 choices in different shapes. .
Anybody tried dying these yet?jaime thomas spray-painted the outside part?
Don't try dying them orange. It doesn't workare they 101a or 99's? the times i've tried to rit dye wheels it only worked on the ones 99a and softer
are they 101a or 99's? the times i've tried to rit dye wheels it only worked on the ones 99a and softerExpand QuoteDon't try dying them orange. It doesn't work[close]
I haven't technically flatspotted them but there is a chunk missing from one of my wheels that feels like a small flatspot.
Expand QuoteI haven't technically flatspotted them but there is a chunk missing from one of my wheels that feels like a small flatspot.[close]
That may be a defect. If you email me a photo i can most likely replace the set for you!
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Did you boil the water? Get that water as humanly hot as possible and with black dye just use the whole packet in only about a half gallon of water. Let sit for at least a day or 2. Bones STF's took 4 days and it was still faint. Nav's dyes Spitfire Classics over the course of a month. So be patient. It ain't gunna be a quick thing.didn't you also do them in 10 minutes on the stove?
The softer the wheel, the better it will dye, the harder the more dense it is and harder to get color into the urethane.
I've dyed a bunch of sets and the wheels that took the best dye job were 97a Powell wheels. They were perfectly a bright blue in a day.
Harder wheels you need more time, and more dye. In the end it's a pain, but it can be done.
Good luck dude and be patient!
didn't you also do them in 10 minutes on the stove?Expand QuoteDid you boil the water? Get that water as humanly hot as possible and with black dye just use the whole packet in only about a half gallon of water. Let sit for at least a day or 2. Bones STF's took 4 days and it was still faint. Nav's dyes Spitfire Classics over the course of a month. So be patient. It ain't gunna be a quick thing.
The softer the wheel, the better it will dye, the harder the more dense it is and harder to get color into the urethane.
I've dyed a bunch of sets and the wheels that took the best dye job were 97a Powell wheels. They were perfectly a bright blue in a day.
Harder wheels you need more time, and more dye. In the end it's a pain, but it can be done.
Good luck dude and be patient![close]
I've been skating my formula fours over the past couple weeks at my local indoor park since the winter is here. Its so slippery and I haven't slipped out once and these wheels have amazing traction. I back these things sooo hard and won't be buying anything else as long as they make these
i'm having a hard time picking between the 99s and the 100s. i live in pennsylvania so the street is extremely rough and crusty and i find myself going to parks occasionally. any suggestions?
So I noticed today that one of my wheels is starting to cone but not the other three. Weird, because I've never just had one do it on its own.Which wheel is it? A lot of the time my rear wheel on the toe side cones from leaning on it too much during powerslides.
This happened to my 51mm classic 101d wheel today. Not really sure how, as I was only skating an indoor park. Think it's worth having DLX check it out for a defect? Only been skating them for a couple weeks.
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Might just have to sack up and buy a new set.
DLX PMed me and handled it. These dudes are the shit and I will never skate another wheel.
Expand QuoteDLX PMed me and handled it. These dudes are the shit and I will never skate another wheel.[close]
It's exactly how I feel about the dudes that run Autobahn. Killer wheels and unbelievable customer service and backing of their product. I will never skate another wheel.
If anyone is interested in trying F4s, I have a brand new set in the shrink...99/54 in classic shape that I'd sell for $24 shipped to anywhere in the states. I'm pretty sure I paid $38. I bought them while on a skate trip from a local shop in a town we were skating to have as a backup set but I never had to use them. I have so many sets of wheels in front of them I'm most likely never going to use them.
This happened to my 51mm classic 101d wheel today. Not really sure how, as I was only skating an indoor park. Think it's worth having DLX check it out for a defect? Only been skating them for a couple weeks.
(http://i43.tinypic.com/dfahau.jpg)
(http://i42.tinypic.com/20fq341.jpg)
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Might just have to sack up and buy a new set.
rare defect???? this shit happens all the time at indoor/skatelite parks. the metal flashing at the bottom of banks or quarter pipe slice the wheels bro. It has nothing to do with the wheel.Expand QuoteThis happened to my 51mm classic 101d wheel today. Not really sure how, as I was only skating an indoor park. Think it's worth having DLX check it out for a defect? Only been skating them for a couple weeks.
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(http://i42.tinypic.com/20fq341.jpg)
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Might just have to sack up and buy a new set.[close]
pm me your address!
that is definitely a rare defect.
rare defect???? this shit happens all the time at indoor/skatelite parks. the metal flashing at the bottom of banks or quarter pipe slice the wheels bro. It has nothing to do with the wheel.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteThis happened to my 51mm classic 101d wheel today. Not really sure how, as I was only skating an indoor park. Think it's worth having DLX check it out for a defect? Only been skating them for a couple weeks.
(http://i43.tinypic.com/dfahau.jpg)
(http://i42.tinypic.com/20fq341.jpg)
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Might just have to sack up and buy a new set.[close]
pm me your address!
that is definitely a rare defect.[close]
just skate threw it and stop looking for a hand out
Well I don't really skate indoor parks all that much but, yeah, seems like I may have caught a screwhead.
No one is looking for a handout, you broke faggot. I just have never had this happen to me, or seen it. I was just curious since they were F4s.
Also, I'll make sure to skate THROUGH it, you dumb fuck.
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Well I don't really skate indoor parks all that much but, yeah, seems like I may have caught a screwhead.
No one is looking for a handout, you broke faggot. I just have never had this happen to me, or seen it. I was just curious since they were F4s.
Also, I'll make sure to skate THROUGH it, you dumb fuck.[close]
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Did you boil the water? Get that water as humanly hot as possible and with black dye just use the whole packet in only about a half gallon of water. Let sit for at least a day or 2. Bones STF's took 4 days and it was still faint. Nav's dyes Spitfire Classics over the course of a month. So be patient. It ain't gunna be a quick thing.
The softer the wheel, the better it will dye, the harder the more dense it is and harder to get color into the urethane.
I've dyed a bunch of sets and the wheels that took the best dye job were 97a Powell wheels. They were perfectly a bright blue in a day.
Harder wheels you need more time, and more dye. In the end it's a pain, but it can be done.
Good luck dude and be patient!
(http://i42.tinypic.com/e83a7q.jpg)Expand Quoterare defect???? this shit happens all the time at indoor/skatelite parks. the metal flashing at the bottom of banks or quarter pipe slice the wheels bro. It has nothing to do with the wheel.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteThis happened to my 51mm classic 101d wheel today. Not really sure how, as I was only skating an indoor park. Think it's worth having DLX check it out for a defect? Only been skating them for a couple weeks.
(http://i43.tinypic.com/dfahau.jpg)
(http://i42.tinypic.com/20fq341.jpg)
(http://i42.tinypic.com/2qi9tec.jpg)
Might just have to sack up and buy a new set.[close]
pm me your address!
that is definitely a rare defect.[close]
just skate threw it and stop looking for a hand out[close]
Well I don't really skate indoor parks all that much but, yeah, seems like I may have caught a screwhead.
No one is looking for a handout, you broke faggot. I just have never had this happen to me, or seen it. I was just curious since they were F4s.
Also, I'll make sure to skate THROUGH it, you dumb fuck.
not you, im sure someone gave you a hefty sum to take those hideous shoes off their handsROLL TIDE
Hey man, yeah, the yellow will work. My buddy did a set with the yellow and they came out actually pretty good.Expand QuoteDid you boil the water? Get that water as humanly hot as possible and with black dye just use the whole packet in only about a half gallon of water. Let sit for at least a day or 2. Bones STF's took 4 days and it was still faint. Nav's dyes Spitfire Classics over the course of a month. So be patient. It ain't gunna be a quick thing.
The softer the wheel, the better it will dye, the harder the more dense it is and harder to get color into the urethane.
I've dyed a bunch of sets and the wheels that took the best dye job were 97a Powell wheels. They were perfectly a bright blue in a day.
Harder wheels you need more time, and more dye. In the end it's a pain, but it can be done.
Good luck dude and be patient![close]
sorry for taking so long to reply. I forgot I posted in this thread. Anyways, I brought the water to a boil, added half the dye and brought the stove down to a medium high, just barley under boiling.
I just ordered another pair off the 99 classics and want to dye them with the "lemon" colored liquid dye. Do you think the dye is dark enough to get a solid color on the pearly spits?
(http://i42.tinypic.com/e83a7q.jpg)Expand QuoteExpand Quoterare defect???? this shit happens all the time at indoor/skatelite parks. the metal flashing at the bottom of banks or quarter pipe slice the wheels bro. It has nothing to do with the wheel.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteThis happened to my 51mm classic 101d wheel today. Not really sure how, as I was only skating an indoor park. Think it's worth having DLX check it out for a defect? Only been skating them for a couple weeks.
(http://i43.tinypic.com/dfahau.jpg)
(http://i42.tinypic.com/20fq341.jpg)
(http://i42.tinypic.com/2qi9tec.jpg)
Might just have to sack up and buy a new set.[close]
pm me your address!
that is definitely a rare defect.[close]
just skate threw it and stop looking for a hand out[close]
Well I don't really skate indoor parks all that much but, yeah, seems like I may have caught a screwhead.
No one is looking for a handout, you broke faggot. I just have never had this happen to me, or seen it. I was just curious since they were F4s.
Also, I'll make sure to skate THROUGH it, you dumb fuck.[close]
new boards 3 sets of wheels and a pair of fallens that don't come out till spring 14.. Whose the broke fuck
(http://i42.tinypic.com/65vdqb.jpg) don't hateExpand Quote(http://i42.tinypic.com/e83a7q.jpg)Expand QuoteExpand Quoterare defect???? this shit happens all the time at indoor/skatelite parks. the metal flashing at the bottom of banks or quarter pipe slice the wheels bro. It has nothing to do with the wheel.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteThis happened to my 51mm classic 101d wheel today. Not really sure how, as I was only skating an indoor park. Think it's worth having DLX check it out for a defect? Only been skating them for a couple weeks.
(http://i43.tinypic.com/dfahau.jpg)
(http://i42.tinypic.com/20fq341.jpg)
(http://i42.tinypic.com/2qi9tec.jpg)
Might just have to sack up and buy a new set.[close]
pm me your address!
that is definitely a rare defect.[close]
just skate threw it and stop looking for a hand out[close]
Well I don't really skate indoor parks all that much but, yeah, seems like I may have caught a screwhead.
No one is looking for a handout, you broke faggot. I just have never had this happen to me, or seen it. I was just curious since they were F4s.
Also, I'll make sure to skate THROUGH it, you dumb fuck.[close]
new boards 3 sets of wheels and a pair of fallens that don't come out till spring 14.. Whose the broke fuck[close]
SO RICH
You remind of this hypebeast in my psychology class who is always Bragging how much his jeans cost.
Expand QuoteYou remind of this hypebeast in my psychology class who is always Bragging how much his jeans cost.[close]
and isn't ALABAMAMAN friends with sponsored skaters? i'm pretty sure i've heard him talk about letting pros/ams stay at his place.
this dude gets product kicked-down by homies and is trying to stunt on slap like he's got paper.
hey BAMAMAN, post pics of your whip and bitch too!
shut them haters down, brah.
Hey man, yeah, the yellow will work. My buddy did a set with the yellow and they came out actually pretty good.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteDid you boil the water? Get that water as humanly hot as possible and with black dye just use the whole packet in only about a half gallon of water. Let sit for at least a day or 2. Bones STF's took 4 days and it was still faint. Nav's dyes Spitfire Classics over the course of a month. So be patient. It ain't gunna be a quick thing.
The softer the wheel, the better it will dye, the harder the more dense it is and harder to get color into the urethane.
I've dyed a bunch of sets and the wheels that took the best dye job were 97a Powell wheels. They were perfectly a bright blue in a day.
Harder wheels you need more time, and more dye. In the end it's a pain, but it can be done.
Good luck dude and be patient![close]
sorry for taking so long to reply. I forgot I posted in this thread. Anyways, I brought the water to a boil, added half the dye and brought the stove down to a medium high, just barley under boiling.
I just ordered another pair off the 99 classics and want to dye them with the "lemon" colored liquid dye. Do you think the dye is dark enough to get a solid color on the pearly spits?[close]
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The whiter the wheel, the better the dye takes. Softer the wheel, the easier and deeper in the dye takes.
Expand QuoteDLX PMed me and handled it. These dudes are the shit and I will never skate another wheel.[close]
It's exactly how I feel about the dudes that run Autobahn. Killer wheels and unbelievable customer service and backing of their product. I will never skate another wheel.
If anyone is interested in trying F4s, I have a brand new set in the shrink...99/54 in classic shape that I'd sell for $24 shipped to anywhere in the states. I'm pretty sure I paid $38. I bought them while on a skate trip from a local shop in a town we were skating to have as a backup set but I never had to use them. I have so many sets of wheels in front of them I'm most likely never going to use them.
Finally swapped mine out after four months, longest time ive had a pair of wheels, loved these, hopefully they bring out the manderson shape in these and i'll be set for life
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteYou remind of this hypebeast in my psychology class who is always Bragging how much his jeans cost.[close]
and isn't ALABAMAMAN friends with sponsored skaters? i'm pretty sure i've heard him talk about letting pros/ams stay at his place.
this dude gets product kicked-down by homies and is trying to stunt on slap like he's got paper.
hey BAMAMAN, post pics of your whip and bitch too!
shut them haters down, brah.[close]
You mad you don't gethomie boxeshandouts. Never acted rich playur but my 150$ Carhartt pants ripped the other day
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VAN LIFE PLAYUR!!!!
What's up with the colored F4s? I saw those green samples, I'd be so hyped on some pink ones!Expand QuoteFinally swapped mine out after four months, longest time ive had a pair of wheels, loved these, hopefully they bring out the manderson shape in these and i'll be set for life[close]
Manderson shape is coming very soon.
Rit dye, Lemon Yellow. Start w/ a teaspoon to about 3 cups of boiling water. Let sit for 5 minutes.Expand QuoteHey man, yeah, the yellow will work. My buddy did a set with the yellow and they came out actually pretty good.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteDid you boil the water? Get that water as humanly hot as possible and with black dye just use the whole packet in only about a half gallon of water. Let sit for at least a day or 2. Bones STF's took 4 days and it was still faint. Nav's dyes Spitfire Classics over the course of a month. So be patient. It ain't gunna be a quick thing.
The softer the wheel, the better it will dye, the harder the more dense it is and harder to get color into the urethane.
I've dyed a bunch of sets and the wheels that took the best dye job were 97a Powell wheels. They were perfectly a bright blue in a day.
Harder wheels you need more time, and more dye. In the end it's a pain, but it can be done.
Good luck dude and be patient![close]
sorry for taking so long to reply. I forgot I posted in this thread. Anyways, I brought the water to a boil, added half the dye and brought the stove down to a medium high, just barley under boiling.
I just ordered another pair off the 99 classics and want to dye them with the "lemon" colored liquid dye. Do you think the dye is dark enough to get a solid color on the pearly spits?[close]
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-5V-kXNWttKs/T49jfHgnSXI/AAAAAAAAAo0/IPwAP_21lrE/s1600/IMG_0857.JPG)
The whiter the wheel, the better the dye takes. Softer the wheel, the easier and deeper in the dye takes.[close]
Do you know what specific yellow dye he used and how long he had to soak them?
What's up with the colored F4s? I saw those green samples, I'd be so hyped on some pink ones!Expand QuoteExpand QuoteFinally swapped mine out after four months, longest time ive had a pair of wheels, loved these, hopefully they bring out the manderson shape in these and i'll be set for life[close]
Manderson shape is coming very soon.[close]
Expand QuoteFinally swapped mine out after four months, longest time ive had a pair of wheels, loved these, hopefully they bring out the manderson shape in these and i'll be set for life[close]
Manderson shape is coming very soon.
Rit dye, Lemon Yellow. Start w/ a teaspoon to about 3 cups of boiling water. Let sit for 5 minutes.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteHey man, yeah, the yellow will work. My buddy did a set with the yellow and they came out actually pretty good.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteDid you boil the water? Get that water as humanly hot as possible and with black dye just use the whole packet in only about a half gallon of water. Let sit for at least a day or 2. Bones STF's took 4 days and it was still faint. Nav's dyes Spitfire Classics over the course of a month. So be patient. It ain't gunna be a quick thing.
The softer the wheel, the better it will dye, the harder the more dense it is and harder to get color into the urethane.
I've dyed a bunch of sets and the wheels that took the best dye job were 97a Powell wheels. They were perfectly a bright blue in a day.
Harder wheels you need more time, and more dye. In the end it's a pain, but it can be done.
Good luck dude and be patient![close]
sorry for taking so long to reply. I forgot I posted in this thread. Anyways, I brought the water to a boil, added half the dye and brought the stove down to a medium high, just barley under boiling.
I just ordered another pair off the 99 classics and want to dye them with the "lemon" colored liquid dye. Do you think the dye is dark enough to get a solid color on the pearly spits?[close]
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-5V-kXNWttKs/T49jfHgnSXI/AAAAAAAAAo0/IPwAP_21lrE/s1600/IMG_0857.JPG)
The whiter the wheel, the better the dye takes. Softer the wheel, the easier and deeper in the dye takes.[close]
Do you know what specific yellow dye he used and how long he had to soak them?[close]
Take the wheel out, check it, see how light or dark it is. Then you decide if you need to add more dye, hotter water and or leave in longer. Once you find the right mixture of the dye to water ratio, and it's not going to be too light or too dark you can then leave the wheels in a long time and keep stirring them. Once they cool, stir them every once in a while to keep them from floating and making one side darker than the rest. The longer sitting time will make the dye seep further into the urethane so that when you wear the wheels down they will still be colored all the way through. The boiling water dye mixture will be the most powerful of these things when getting most of the color into the wheels. Everything else after that is a waiting game. With a super white wheel and hot enough water/dye combo you can wing it in no time w/ light colors like a yellow. The darker colors take longer. I've done blues and greens and I leave them in for days and keep reheating the dye too to kinda rush it along. Navarette two-tone dyes his wheels for a month in Rit black dye. So just know, when dying urethane wheels ya gotta be patient. I've done a bunch of wheel dye jobs, some good, some bad, but funky, it's an experiment and always a gamble, but it's a fun and cheap way to play around w/ yer setup.
No prob, good luck! :)Expand QuoteRit dye, Lemon Yellow. Start w/ a teaspoon to about 3 cups of boiling water. Let sit for 5 minutes.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteHey man, yeah, the yellow will work. My buddy did a set with the yellow and they came out actually pretty good.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteDid you boil the water? Get that water as humanly hot as possible and with black dye just use the whole packet in only about a half gallon of water. Let sit for at least a day or 2. Bones STF's took 4 days and it was still faint. Nav's dyes Spitfire Classics over the course of a month. So be patient. It ain't gunna be a quick thing.
The softer the wheel, the better it will dye, the harder the more dense it is and harder to get color into the urethane.
I've dyed a bunch of sets and the wheels that took the best dye job were 97a Powell wheels. They were perfectly a bright blue in a day.
Harder wheels you need more time, and more dye. In the end it's a pain, but it can be done.
Good luck dude and be patient![close]
sorry for taking so long to reply. I forgot I posted in this thread. Anyways, I brought the water to a boil, added half the dye and brought the stove down to a medium high, just barley under boiling.
I just ordered another pair off the 99 classics and want to dye them with the "lemon" colored liquid dye. Do you think the dye is dark enough to get a solid color on the pearly spits?[close]
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-5V-kXNWttKs/T49jfHgnSXI/AAAAAAAAAo0/IPwAP_21lrE/s1600/IMG_0857.JPG)
The whiter the wheel, the better the dye takes. Softer the wheel, the easier and deeper in the dye takes.[close]
Do you know what specific yellow dye he used and how long he had to soak them?[close]
Take the wheel out, check it, see how light or dark it is. Then you decide if you need to add more dye, hotter water and or leave in longer. Once you find the right mixture of the dye to water ratio, and it's not going to be too light or too dark you can then leave the wheels in a long time and keep stirring them. Once they cool, stir them every once in a while to keep them from floating and making one side darker than the rest. The longer sitting time will make the dye seep further into the urethane so that when you wear the wheels down they will still be colored all the way through. The boiling water dye mixture will be the most powerful of these things when getting most of the color into the wheels. Everything else after that is a waiting game. With a super white wheel and hot enough water/dye combo you can wing it in no time w/ light colors like a yellow. The darker colors take longer. I've done blues and greens and I leave them in for days and keep reheating the dye too to kinda rush it along. Navarette two-tone dyes his wheels for a month in Rit black dye. So just know, when dying urethane wheels ya gotta be patient. I've done a bunch of wheel dye jobs, some good, some bad, but funky, it's an experiment and always a gamble, but it's a fun and cheap way to play around w/ yer setup.[close]
sweet, alright thanks for all the help man
yo is there any difference between the F4's that come in the new packaging, versus the ones that are packaged like the regular spits? same graphic on both
Expand Quoteyo is there any difference between the F4's that come in the new packaging, versus the ones that are packaged like the regular spits? same graphic on both[close]
No difference. They're just from before we decided on the new packaging.
I ended using evening blue rather than yellow, I am really happy with how they turned out.
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I ended using evening blue rather than yellow, I am really happy with how they turned out.
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Expand QuoteI ended using evening blue rather than yellow, I am really happy with how they turned out.
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Nice man!
The last color I dyed was using Rit Aqua-marine liquid dye. Left wheels in for 4 days. It came out the brightest royal blue of all the wheels I've ever done. The wheels were 97a Powells though, so they took dye really well. I can see how the off white color of the F4's would sorta augment the color you'd be dying.
Nice job bro! :)
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI ended using evening blue rather than yellow, I am really happy with how they turned out.
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Nice man!
The last color I dyed was using Rit Aqua-marine liquid dye. Left wheels in for 4 days. It came out the brightest royal blue of all the wheels I've ever done. The wheels were 97a Powells though, so they took dye really well. I can see how the off white color of the F4's would sorta augment the color you'd be dying.
Nice job bro! :)[close]
Thanks, I took your advice and kept the water as hot as I could, so it only took about an hour or so. And when I took them out they were so soft they bounced like super balls haha
i finally got round to buying a set. 51mm Full Shape 98A Durometer. they were really cheap and in the full shape which is quite hard to find, i can't wait to see what they're like. just hope the fucking ground dries up sometime soon!
Expand Quotei finally got round to buying a set. 51mm Full Shape 98A Durometer. they were really cheap and in the full shape which is quite hard to find, i can't wait to see what they're like. just hope the fucking ground dries up sometime soon![close]
I wanna find the 98a's in 54 MM and full shape - but it's hard to find. Even the normal sites I check online don't have any stock.
Anyone know of a site?
Pretty bummed, mine got chipped up after a few days and I thought nothing of it, now they are just getting worse and sounding mad flat spotted.
Expand QuotePretty bummed, mine got chipped up after a few days and I thought nothing of it, now they are just getting worse and sounding mad flat spotted.[close]
contact dlx man, they may hook u up.
i gotta say i just set up the 101's after some bones 100's i got and im feeling em. wheels are wheels, but if they manage not to flatspot, ill be skating em forever
Expand QuoteExpand QuotePretty bummed, mine got chipped up after a few days and I thought nothing of it, now they are just getting worse and sounding mad flat spotted.[close]
contact dlx man, they may hook u up.
i gotta say i just set up the 101's after some bones 100's i got and im feeling em. wheels are wheels, but if they manage not to flatspot, ill be skating em forever[close]
Turns out they did hook me up, Shiner sent these today. Cheers Lenny!
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(http://distilleryimage8.s3.amazonaws.com/6e0f2cee7fb711e383b71261062e4ae8_8.jpg)Ha, my instagram pic! The colored ones look good. Setting some up this week.
Anyone seen these yet?
Ha, my instagram pic! The colored ones look good. Setting some up this week.Expand Quote
Anyone seen these yet?[close]
Got the scoop about full shape f4's and manderson shape, they are cutting new molds now, something was causing problems with the old ones.
those colored ones look sick, definitely getting some. I tried RIT dying some orange yesterday and let them sit overnight, just made them looked like old yellowed wheels but I've had them since october so not too bummed.Use a heck of alot more dye to the amount of water ratio, and make sure it's boiling hot.
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Use a heck of alot more dye to the amount of water ratio, and make sure it's boiling hot.Expand Quotethose colored ones look sick, definitely getting some. I tried RIT dying some orange yesterday and let them sit overnight, just made them looked like old yellowed wheels but I've had them since october so not too bummed.
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Let them soak 2-3 days minimum, they'd get alot darker...and more "orange".
For some really weird reason only Rit works. it's really weird. Dylon and Tulip dyes, which are in the class of Rit did absolutely nothing when I tried them both. Really weird, but only Rit works. The liquid Rit actually works best because it's concentrated, but the powder Rit works just as good if you can't find the liquid.Expand QuoteUse a heck of alot more dye to the amount of water ratio, and make sure it's boiling hot.Expand Quotethose colored ones look sick, definitely getting some. I tried RIT dying some orange yesterday and let them sit overnight, just made them looked like old yellowed wheels but I've had them since october so not too bummed.
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Let them soak 2-3 days minimum, they'd get alot darker...and more "orange".[close]
would it work with a similar dye like rit? i have some blank wheels on deck i'd try to dye and i have a small pack of random cloth dye left...
guess i'll just try it out and maybe throw a white-t in there, too.
thanks pals! i live in germany though. as far as i've seen, amazon seems to be the easiest way to get a hold of og rit dye. costs from 4-5 euros a pack so it's not even more expensive than common dye over here.
Anyone know where I can get a hold of the team edt.'s?
Anyone know where I can get a hold of the team edt.'s?
Bumping this, anyone know when full shape or SFW formula fours will be around, got a set left but don't wanna burn through them if it'll be a while until new ones are aroundLast email I got about it said the molds had to be re done. That was over a month ago. Assuming they will be available soon.
Bumping this, anyone know when full shape or SFW formula fours will be around, got a set left but don't wanna burn through them if it'll be a while until new ones are around
Expand QuoteBumping this, anyone know when full shape or SFW formula fours will be around, got a set left but don't wanna burn through them if it'll be a while until new ones are around[close]
Taking longer than expected.
No definite date.
sorry dudes.
Sorry for a little spam but we have most sizes/colors in all the f4 and a few tablet and full shapes in small sizes. Always load people up with stickers and stuff too when they order.
http://www.35thavenue.com/shop/Skateboards/Wheels/Spitfire.htm (http://www.35thavenue.com/shop/Skateboards/Wheels/Spitfire.htm)
Are they not going to make the f4's in Full or Tablet shapes anymore - didn't see these styles in the new teal/orange, only classic shape.See below
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteBumping this, anyone know when full shape or SFW formula fours will be around, got a set left but don't wanna burn through them if it'll be a while until new ones are around[close]
Taking longer than expected.
No definite date.
sorry dudes.[close]
Any chance of orange 99a SFW formula fours ever being made or are they just gonna keep them to the classic 101a?
Quote from: The Nose Face link=topic=68020.msg2096666#msg2096666 date=1393264457See belowExpand QuoteAre they not going to make the f4's in Full or Tablet shapes anymore - didn't see these styles in the new teal/orange, only classic shape.[close]Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteBumping this, anyone know when full shape or SFW formula fours will be around, got a set left but don't wanna burn through them if it'll be a while until new ones are around[close]
Taking longer than expected.
No definite date.
sorry dudes.[close]
Any chance of orange 99a SFW formula fours ever being made or are they just gonna keep them to the classic 101a?[close]
No worries, i am also patiently waiting.
I think I'm going to pick up some new wheels for the spring sometime soon. I'm on 99s right now, but what are peoples opinions on the 101s? Are they better for the streets?Haven't tried the 99's but I'm riding the 101's right now. They super good so far (had them for about 3 months). They are amazing all around, they slide on command and grip when you need it. My only problem is that I was hill bombing and did a powerslide and slipped out backwards and hit my head. They slide a lot! I'll probably get the 99's so I don't slip out anymore. But overall they are the best wheels I have ever ridden.
Damn you gonna change your name now or what?Haven't tried the 99's but I'm riding the 101's right now. They super good so far (had them for about 3 months). They are amazing all around, they slide on command and grip when you need it. My only problem is that I was hill bombing and did a powerslide and slipped out backwards and hit my head. They slide a lot! I'll probably get the 99's so I don't slip out anymore. But overall they are the best wheels I have ever ridden.Expand QuoteI think I'm going to pick up some new wheels for the spring sometime soon. I'm on 99s right now, but what are peoples opinions on the 101s? Are they better for the streets?[close]
I think I'm going to pick up some new wheels for the spring sometime soon. I'm on 99s right now, but what are peoples opinions on the 101s? Are they better for the streets?
bearings?Damn you gonna change your name now or what?Expand QuoteHaven't tried the 99's but I'm riding the 101's right now. They super good so far (had them for about 3 months). They are amazing all around, they slide on command and grip when you need it. My only problem is that I was hill bombing and did a powerslide and slipped out backwards and hit my head. They slide a lot! I'll probably get the 99's so I don't slip out anymore. But overall they are the best wheels I have ever ridden.Expand QuoteI think I'm going to pick up some new wheels for the spring sometime soon. I'm on 99s right now, but what are peoples opinions on the 101s? Are they better for the streets?[close][close]
nope, wheels. Deffinetly gonna have to change my name hahabearings?Expand QuoteDamn you gonna change your name now or what?Expand QuoteHaven't tried the 99's but I'm riding the 101's right now. They super good so far (had them for about 3 months). They are amazing all around, they slide on command and grip when you need it. My only problem is that I was hill bombing and did a powerslide and slipped out backwards and hit my head. They slide a lot! I'll probably get the 99's so I don't slip out anymore. But overall they are the best wheels I have ever ridden.Expand QuoteI think I'm going to pick up some new wheels for the spring sometime soon. I'm on 99s right now, but what are peoples opinions on the 101s? Are they better for the streets?[close][close][close]
Cool. Thank you both for the insight. I'm really in to those orange 101s but I don't think I'm good enough or Baker enough to rock them haha.Expand QuoteI think I'm going to pick up some new wheels for the spring sometime soon. I'm on 99s right now, but what are peoples opinions on the 101s? Are they better for the streets?[close]
ive ridden both and i definitely like the 101's better in the streets. theyre a little slick, but its a controlled slide. the 99's can be a bit sticky, especially in the streets. for indoor, or slippery parks the 99 will do best tho. be warned tho, the 101 is comparable to the slide of bones but with better grip, so if ur not tryna slip and slide with ease than get the 99's.
Couldn't figure out how to change my name, so I made a new account! Hey dudes!Damn you gonna change your name now or what?Expand QuoteHaven't tried the 99's but I'm riding the 101's right now. They super good so far (had them for about 3 months). They are amazing all around, they slide on command and grip when you need it. My only problem is that I was hill bombing and did a powerslide and slipped out backwards and hit my head. They slide a lot! I'll probably get the 99's so I don't slip out anymore. But overall they are the best wheels I have ever ridden.Expand QuoteI think I'm going to pick up some new wheels for the spring sometime soon. I'm on 99s right now, but what are peoples opinions on the 101s? Are they better for the streets?[close][close]
+1Couldn't figure out how to change my name, so I made a new account! Hey dudes!Expand QuoteDamn you gonna change your name now or what?Expand QuoteHaven't tried the 99's but I'm riding the 101's right now. They super good so far (had them for about 3 months). They are amazing all around, they slide on command and grip when you need it. My only problem is that I was hill bombing and did a powerslide and slipped out backwards and hit my head. They slide a lot! I'll probably get the 99's so I don't slip out anymore. But overall they are the best wheels I have ever ridden.Expand QuoteI think I'm going to pick up some new wheels for the spring sometime soon. I'm on 99s right now, but what are peoples opinions on the 101s? Are they better for the streets?[close][close][close]
+1Expand QuoteCouldn't figure out how to change my name, so I made a new account! Hey dudes!Expand QuoteDamn you gonna change your name now or what?Expand QuoteHaven't tried the 99's but I'm riding the 101's right now. They super good so far (had them for about 3 months). They are amazing all around, they slide on command and grip when you need it. My only problem is that I was hill bombing and did a powerslide and slipped out backwards and hit my head. They slide a lot! I'll probably get the 99's so I don't slip out anymore. But overall they are the best wheels I have ever ridden.Expand QuoteI think I'm going to pick up some new wheels for the spring sometime soon. I'm on 99s right now, but what are peoples opinions on the 101s? Are they better for the streets?[close][close][close][close]
Wow cool to see DLX staff bumping this thread everyday.heh, i'm waiting for rusty to start making a bigger wheel then that's all i'm gonna ride.
SPF/STF owns your shit
heh, i'm waiting for rusty to start making a bigger wheel then that's all i'm gonna ride.Expand QuoteWow cool to see DLX staff bumping this thread everyday.
SPF/STF owns your shit[close]
Wow cool to see DLX staff bumping this thread everyday.
SPF/STF owns your shit
Expand QuoteWow cool to see DLX staff bumping this thread everyday.
SPF/STF owns your shit[close]
somebody get this dude some F4's so he can SHUT THE FUCK UP ALREADY
Hey how are the 99's for park wheels? i always ride the parkburners but wonder if i could use something a smidge faster.I mostly skate parks and I love my 99s. Good grip, fast, slide when I want em to.
a while back i tried to switch to 101's and was sliding all over the place
Quote from: The Nose Face link=topic=68020.msg2096666#msg2096666 date=1393264457See belowExpand QuoteAre they not going to make the f4's in Full or Tablet shapes anymore - didn't see these styles in the new teal/orange, only classic shape.[close]Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteBumping this, anyone know when full shape or SFW formula fours will be around, got a set left but don't wanna burn through them if it'll be a while until new ones are around[close]
Taking longer than expected.
No definite date.
sorry dudes.[close][close]Read above mickey.Expand QuoteDoes Spitfire make Formula 4s in the SFW shape?[close]
Does Spitfire make Formula 4s in the SFW shape?they're working on it. i loved the feel of the sfw, but they didn't hold up well for me. def going to be the next set i buy
flatspotted , i've just flatspotted them >:(Skate through it, it'll even out
99's arrived on Friday, thanks Lenny!
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Been trying. How do you do it?Expand Quote99's arrived on Friday, thanks Lenny!
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time to change your screen name.
Changed it for you.Thanks dude!
Open question, i never skated the street burners when they came out, found a set of SFW streetburners, how do they go comparable too the F4?
Expand QuoteOpen question, i never skated the street burners when they came out, found a set of SFW streetburners, how do they go comparable too the F4?[close]
When I first learned how to powerslide it was when the F1's came out. They flatspotted really easily so I switched to bones. I'm guessing the formula for F1's has changed over the years but if it's anything close to what they were before, I wouldn't bother. Plus, they're coming out with SFW F4's anyways, I would just wait
Been skating the 99's for the winter, mostly indoors. I flatspotted them and took a big chip outta one last weekend. Whats the conditions in which you should contact DLX? The flatspot isnt one of those roll-out flattys, its pretty squared off.
Expand QuoteBeen skating the 99's for the winter, mostly indoors. I flatspotted them and took a big chip outta one last weekend. Whats the conditions in which you should contact DLX? The flatspot isnt one of those roll-out flattys, its pretty squared off.[close]
http://spitfirewheels.com/formulafour/ (http://spitfirewheels.com/formulafour/)
Scroll down near the bottom. My wheel chipped and I wrote to them and they sent me a brand new set that I just set up today. Super helpful.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteBeen skating the 99's for the winter, mostly indoors. I flatspotted them and took a big chip outta one last weekend. Whats the conditions in which you should contact DLX? The flatspot isnt one of those roll-out flattys, its pretty squared off.[close]
http://spitfirewheels.com/formulafour/ (http://spitfirewheels.com/formulafour/)
Scroll down near the bottom. My wheel chipped and I wrote to them and they sent me a brand new set that I just set up today. Super helpful.[close]
When it comes to defects, skate companies really come through, especially anything through NHS or DLX.
Seems like Spitfire still doesn't have the recipe. Maybe by formula 8 or 9 they finally deal with the flatspot issue.
Has anyone fully flatspotted a pair for Formula 4s yet?much better
My old spitfires used to burn our pretty quick so I switched to STF's are the 4's better or just really slick?
Has anyone fully flatspotted a pair for Formula 4s yet?I have seen a few sets flat, they aren't impervious to some people. But those guys will flat any wheel made.
My old spitfires used to burn our pretty quick so I switched to STF's are the 4's better or just really slick?
I flatspotted both the 99s and the 101s, but it wasn't easy. I agree fully with the comparison. They feel very similar, but riding a smooth, dusty park like I do, I need the 99s if I want to haul ass while carving because on the 101s carving up a steep bank might spin you out.I have seen a few sets flat, they aren't impervious to some people. But those guys will flat any wheel made.Expand QuoteHas anyone fully flatspotted a pair for Formula 4s yet?
My old spitfires used to burn our pretty quick so I switched to STF's are the 4's better or just really slick?[close]
You can't compare a classic or f1 urethane to f4's because they feel so different. The f4's definitely do not wear down quickly, and the 99's are the perfect mix of slide and grip imo. I've noticed we sell the 99s over the 101's probably 6 to 1. Having ridden both I could ride either and the difference is not night and day. But on the slicker skateparks here the 101's are a little sketchy. I think they are A better feeling wheel than stf's, not one person I've sold them to over bones has come back disappointed.
Damn, just flat spotted my 99's. Gonna probably get some 55 Cardiel classics to save money.
Damn, just flat spotted my 99's. Gonna probably get some 55 Cardiel classics to save money.i think you also have a scuff mark on your shoe. better get a new pair asap.
Still sticking with Spitfire. They sent me free wheels, so that's enough to keep me skating Spitfires forever.Expand QuoteDamn, just flat spotted my 99's. Gonna probably get some 55 Cardiel classics to save money.[close]
So it's back to Bones4life or you're still charmed by the Spitfire marketing schemes?
It's just kind of annoying and distracting. I wanted to try a bigger size anyways.i think you also have a scuff mark on your shoe. better get a new pair asap.Expand QuoteDamn, just flat spotted my 99's. Gonna probably get some 55 Cardiel classics to save money.[close]
Its impossible to trust this company until they have a flatspot guarantee.Never even been close to SF. These wheels are the truth. Get your plastic Bones shit out of here.
SF locals make up 75% of this thread
Darkstar or Bones ONLY
Plastic... What do you think wheels are made of dumbass? Oil?Never even been close to SF. These wheels are the truth. Get your plastic Bones shit out of here.Expand QuoteIts impossible to trust this company until they have a flatspot guarantee.
SF locals make up 75% of this thread
Darkstar or Bones ONLY[close]
Plastic... What do you think wheels are made of dumbass? Oil?Expand QuoteNever even been close to SF. These wheels are the truth. Get your plastic Bones shit out of here.Expand QuoteIts impossible to trust this company until they have a flatspot guarantee.
SF locals make up 75% of this thread
Darkstar or Bones ONLY[close][close]
I don't need my wheels to be super hard and loud to enjoy a session, I'd rather powerslide for days with bones.. They can last a full year even through heavy use, something FF can't do.
Darkstar wheels are actually really fucking good, and carry a flatspot guarantee. My only issue with them is they're super round, and they've worked past thatExpand QuotePlastic... What do you think wheels are made of dumbass? Oil?Expand QuoteNever even been close to SF. These wheels are the truth. Get your plastic Bones shit out of here.Expand QuoteIts impossible to trust this company until they have a flatspot guarantee.
SF locals make up 75% of this thread
Darkstar or Bones ONLY[close][close]
I don't need my wheels to be super hard and loud to enjoy a session, I'd rather powerslide for days with bones.. They can last a full year even through heavy use, something FF can't do.[close]
darkstar wheels? u fuckin KOOK
I don't get people complaining about Bones feeling like plastic, in case you didn't know, polyurethane is a thermoplastic. So complain all you want about the different feel of Bones or whatever brand, but do not complain about it feeling like plastic, because Spitfire are also made of plastic.No, those kind of comments are like people who prefer chicken that doesn't taste like shit.
Those kind of comments reminds me of people saying chicken is not meat...
This, stf's are still reallt good, I'd just rather support Dlx and our dlx-dist over skateone/powell...
I think people get caught up in the "f4's are the stf killer" idea, but they are both excellent wheels.
word I'm really anxious to get f4 sfw's. I like the regular sfw's but mine are splitting and cracking on the sides of the wheels. I've had 4 sets total and this is the second set it's happened to. Love the way these wheels feel and ride but it's a bit of a bummer. I have a set of classic formula 4's and they hold up well but I'm so used to the wides.The full shape that they made was pretty much identical. I wish they continued making them though.
The sfw shape is a bit wider than the full shape.The full shape that they made was pretty much identical. I wish they continued making them though.Expand Quoteword I'm really anxious to get f4 sfw's. I like the regular sfw's but mine are splitting and cracking on the sides of the wheels. I've had 4 sets total and this is the second set it's happened to. Love the way these wheels feel and ride but it's a bit of a bummer. I have a set of classic formula 4's and they hold up well but I'm so used to the wides.[close]
We're working on the SFW shape still.
No official date yet, but I promise they are coming soon.
Just set up my last full shape set, gonna make them last as long as possible, hopefully new fuller shapes are out sooner rather than later, i forgot just how great these wheels feel under my feet
Yea that's why I said pretty much identical. I just got some new sfws and I am so hyped to skate them. I think I like the way they feel more then the full shape.The sfw shape is a bit wider than the full shape.Expand QuoteThe full shape that they made was pretty much identical. I wish they continued making them though.Expand Quoteword I'm really anxious to get f4 sfw's. I like the regular sfw's but mine are splitting and cracking on the sides of the wheels. I've had 4 sets total and this is the second set it's happened to. Love the way these wheels feel and ride but it's a bit of a bummer. I have a set of classic formula 4's and they hold up well but I'm so used to the wides.[close][close]
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So, i saw these floating around instagram, looks like an SFW too me ;D
I'm on my first set of formula four's and I just can't get into the 99 duro...'that little bit of softness just makes my set up feel soggy and heavy...I'm probably gonna set up these AVE full shape street burner lock-ins that are 100du...man, I wish I didn't care so much about the nuanced differences of skate product.
If I making the switch from Bones STF to possibly Spitfire F4 or SFW, which wheels would feel similar to the STF's?personally, i have more control with the 101's, but i've only gotten kickdown prototypes that've already been "broken in"..
If I making the switch from Bones STF to possibly Spitfire F4 or SFW, which wheels would feel similar to the STF's?
i had a pair of 99's out of the plastic, and bombed a hill right after setting them up. went to powerslide and it was like ice.
Expand Quotei had a pair of 99's out of the plastic, and bombed a hill right after setting them up. went to powerslide and it was like ice.[close]
Wouldn't the 101s be even more slippery? I ride the 99s and they are a really good median between grippy and slippery (more on the slippery side).
Expand Quotei had a pair of 99's out of the plastic, and bombed a hill right after setting them up. went to powerslide and it was like ice.[close]
Wouldn't the 101s be even more slippery? I ride the 99s and they are a really good median between grippy and slippery (more on the slippery side).
Agree.Expand QuoteExpand Quotei had a pair of 99's out of the plastic, and bombed a hill right after setting them up. went to powerslide and it was like ice.[close]
Wouldn't the 101s be even more slippery? I ride the 99s and they are a really good median between grippy and slippery (more on the slippery side).[close]
yea he said he wants a similiar feel to stf's, which would DEF be the 101
How do the SFWs feel? Never had a pair of Spits and the only shape I've ridden is the bones stf v2, want to branch out.
I've never had the SFW's, what is it about them that you all love? I'd like to try a pair.
Got some f4 sfw samples today, so excited to set them up.I love the SFW shape, it's so good. I can't imagine how great it'd be in the f4 formula.
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Got some f4 sfw samples today, so excited to set them up.
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I've been skating classics pretty much exclusively for the last ten years. So I have to ask, what are the benefits of different shaped wheels?
Do they grind differently?Expand QuoteI've been skating classics pretty much exclusively for the last ten years. So I have to ask, what are the benefits of different shaped wheels?[close]
Theres no real benefit i would think, personally i just like the feel of more wheel on the actual ground and the wider profile looks/feels more stable than the classic shape too me
Do they grind differently?Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI've been skating classics pretty much exclusively for the last ten years. So I have to ask, what are the benefits of different shaped wheels?[close]
Theres no real benefit i would think, personally i just like the feel of more wheel on the actual ground and the wider profile looks/feels more stable than the classic shape too me[close]
I had some wide Bones DTFs that looked like that after they wore down. They sucked for grinds because they ate up a lot of hanger real estate, especially on an 8" truck.
In my opinion I have noticed it helps with locking in grind tricksExpand QuoteDo they grind differently?Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI've been skating classics pretty much exclusively for the last ten years. So I have to ask, what are the benefits of different shaped wheels?[close]
Theres no real benefit i would think, personally i just like the feel of more wheel on the actual ground and the wider profile looks/feels more stable than the classic shape too me[close][close]
i've never noticed them affect my grinds
thinking about getting a set but not sure whether to get the 99a or 101 a duro. is there a big difference between the two? and can i still skate street with the 99s, i dont want a terribly slippery wheel (one of the reasons im ditching stfs) any advice would cool, thanksI'd go with the 99's if I were you. I've had both and the 99's seemed to be the best all around. You get a good grip, but still can do powerslides and whatnot. 99's are the best.
Got some f4 sfw samples today, so excited to set them up.(http://i59.tinypic.com/rbd63b.jpg)
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:'(
flatspot picture
The board probably got run over by a car or something. That's way too big of a flatspot.
:'(Bullshit, you looking for a new wheel handout or something?
:'(What did you do? Powerslide a fucking treadmill?
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The board probably got run over by a car or something. That's way too big of a flatspot.
What did you do? Powerslide a fucking treadmill?Expand Quote:'(
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Don't know if Lenny still lurks around but any word on the SFW shape yet, US summer is around the corner, can i get my hopes up that they'll be out soon?
Don't know if Lenny still lurks around but any word on the SFW shape yet, US summer is around the corner, can i get my hopes up that they'll be out soon?
Thank. you.Expand QuoteDon't know if Lenny still lurks around but any word on the SFW shape yet, US summer is around the corner, can i get my hopes up that they'll be out soon?[close]
I'm still lurking.
The SFW's are very close to production, I still can't give a release date, but they ARE coming.
(http://i59.tinypic.com/rbd63b.jpg)Expand QuoteGot some f4 sfw samples today, so excited to set them up.
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Hopefully formula 5 or 6 gets better, seeing all these mega flatspots. Noone has shit on bones after all these yearsI flatspoted some Bones STF. Not to the point where you can see it, but you can feel and hear it. Good excuse to retire them and get some SFW's.
I flatspot bones all the time, but never to the point where they're unrideable. You can roll the flatspots out pretty easyI flatspoted some Bones STF. Not to the point where you can see it, but you can feel and hear it. Good excuse to retire them and get some SFW's.Expand QuoteHopefully formula 5 or 6 gets better, seeing all these mega flatspots. Noone has shit on bones after all these years[close]
can somebody explain the difference between 99a vs 101a?
Expand Quotecan somebody explain the difference between 99a vs 101a?[close]
about 3 more a's
thank youExpand QuoteExpand Quotecan somebody explain the difference between 99a vs 101a?[close]
about 3 more a's[close]
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can somebody explain the difference between 99a vs 101a?
can somebody explain the difference between 99a vs 101a?
i like the 101's but i am finding them to be kinda too slidey on certain ground. i had the 99's before in full shape and they were too grippy, but now im wondering if its cus of how wide they were? i dont really wanna go back to streetburners, even though 100 duro is nice, but would it be worth it to try out the 99's in classic?
can you elaborate on a date yet?? :-*
Hey lenny, i saw on here SFW 4s are gonna be out next month, can you elaborate on a date yet?? :-*
Expand QuoteHey lenny, i saw on here SFW 4s are gonna be out next month, can you elaborate on a date yet?? :-*[close]
Right now we are shooting for mid August.
Are the 101 tablets still available? Can't find them anywhere.
I bought some f4 a couple of days ago and have had quite a few chunks come off. They also are cracking in a few places. I love the way they feel, but I was wondering if this is normal for them. I only skate my local park and I'm not to hard on them. I know this sounds silly but I'm kinda bummed on the quality and don't want to go back to Bones.That's not normal, I had a similar problem with one set of the 101 and they were replaced with 99s when I sent them in. Which I was quite pleased with btw, thanks nate!
is there another shape for F4 99A wheel for the upcoming drop besides the classic and SFW? a tablet or SFslightlylesswide would be nice, but maybe thats just me...Classics aren't exactly narrow.
is there another shape for F4 99A wheel for the upcoming drop besides the classic and SFW? a tablet or SFslightlylesswide would be nice, but maybe thats just me...
i love the spitfire classic shape..how is the shift from those to the conical shape? i gotta new set of the 99f4's but am curious to try conical shapes
Expand Quotei love the spitfire classic shape..how is the shift from those to the conical shape? i gotta new set of the 99f4's but am curious to try conical shapes[close]
I tried a set of parkburners on someone elses board the other day and they felt way too narrow now ive been on conicals for ages, locking into things seemed easier with the squarer wheels, i can't wait too see how these new ones work out
Expand QuoteExpand Quotei love the spitfire classic shape..how is the shift from those to the conical shape? i gotta new set of the 99f4's but am curious to try conical shapes[close]
I tried a set of parkburners on someone elses board the other day and they felt way too narrow now ive been on conicals for ages, locking into things seemed easier with the squarer wheels, i can't wait too see how these new ones work out[close]
sick! thanks for the feedback.. does spitfire still do the "lock in" wheels- which are like the conical but only on one side?
I bought some f4 a couple of days ago and have had quite a few chunks come off. They also are cracking in a few places. I love the way they feel, but I was wondering if this is normal for them. I only skate my local park and I'm not to hard on them. I know this sounds silly but I'm kinda bummed on the quality and don't want to go back to Bones.
Here are the new specs for the updated f4 shapes.
Coincidence or not I received an email that they are shipping my replacement set about 15 minutes after I posted here!Yup, as expected.
Here are the new specs for the updated f4 shapes.Anybody know the release date on the conicals?
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the 99s powerslide just fine. They feel like how Spitfires should feel like. The F4 99s remind me of the classics back in the 90s when Spitfires were unfuckwithable...
Also I think as I get older I dwell to much on gear and start to notice things I wouldn't have when I was younger. I skated so much that my stuff would wear out before I could notice any imperfections. It seems now I'm looking for a skateboard product equivalent of the fountain of youth. If I find that concave, wheel, or shape I will get my old tricks back! Thanks for your feedback and have a great day everybody!
http://www.skatewarehouse.com/Skate_Warehouse_Blank_V-Natural_Deck/descpage-SWNHDK.html (http://www.skatewarehouse.com/Skate_Warehouse_Blank_V-Natural_Deck/descpage-SWNHDK.html)Expand QuoteAlso I think as I get older I dwell to much on gear and start to notice things I wouldn't have when I was younger. I skated so much that my stuff would wear out before I could notice any imperfections. It seems now I'm looking for a skateboard product equivalent of the fountain of youth. If I find that concave, wheel, or shape I will get my old tricks back! Thanks for your feedback and have a great day everybody![close]
I, too, am looking for the holy grail ;) Seriously, I'm the exact same way and I'm VERY close.
8.5"x32.5" + 14.75/15" WB, Fat nose and tail (like Anti Hero shapes but not anti hero dimensions) - Anyone give me a brand like that that isn't elephant?
Theeves for street ACEs for bowls
Spit F4s - classics for now but I think that conical my be the clincher - I've always hated the STF feel and autobahns don't slide like the F4s.
Expand QuoteAlso I think as I get older I dwell to much on gear and start to notice things I wouldn't have when I was younger. I skated so much that my stuff would wear out before I could notice any imperfections. It seems now I'm looking for a skateboard product equivalent of the fountain of youth. If I find that concave, wheel, or shape I will get my old tricks back! Thanks for your feedback and have a great day everybody![close]
I, too, am looking for the holy grail ;) Seriously, I'm the exact same way and I'm VERY close.
8.5"x32.5" + 14.75/15" WB, Fat nose and tail (like Anti Hero shapes but not anti hero dimensions) - Anyone give me a brand like that that isn't elephant?
Theeves for street ACEs for bowls
Spit F4s - classics for now but I think that conical my be the clincher - I've always hated the STF feel and autobahns don't slide like the F4s.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteAlso I think as I get older I dwell to much on gear and start to notice things I wouldn't have when I was younger. I skated so much that my stuff would wear out before I could notice any imperfections. It seems now I'm looking for a skateboard product equivalent of the fountain of youth. If I find that concave, wheel, or shape I will get my old tricks back! Thanks for your feedback and have a great day everybody![close]
I, too, am looking for the holy grail ;) Seriously, I'm the exact same way and I'm VERY close.
8.5"x32.5" + 14.75/15" WB, Fat nose and tail (like Anti Hero shapes but not anti hero dimensions) - Anyone give me a brand like that that isn't elephant?
Theeves for street ACEs for bowls
Spit F4s - classics for now but I think that conical my be the clincher - I've always hated the STF feel and autobahns don't slide like the F4s.[close]
not quite to the specific dimensions, but Anti-Hero (and real, krooked) have an 8.43 with a 32.57 length and a 14.75 wheelbase. It's pretty much the only board I can ride at this point, everything seems tiny in comparison. the 0.07 is not noticable
It's mid august, the ad is in thrasher, where they at?
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteAlso I think as I get older I dwell to much on gear and start to notice things I wouldn't have when I was younger. I skated so much that my stuff would wear out before I could notice any imperfections. It seems now I'm looking for a skateboard product equivalent of the fountain of youth. If I find that concave, wheel, or shape I will get my old tricks back! Thanks for your feedback and have a great day everybody![close]
I, too, am looking for the holy grail ;) Seriously, I'm the exact same way and I'm VERY close.
8.5"x32.5" + 14.75/15" WB, Fat nose and tail (like Anti Hero shapes but not anti hero dimensions) - Anyone give me a brand like that that isn't elephant?
Theeves for street ACEs for bowls
Spit F4s - classics for now but I think that conical my be the clincher - I've always hated the STF feel and autobahns don't slide like the F4s.[close]
not quite to the specific dimensions, but Anti-Hero (and real, krooked) have an 8.43 with a 32.57 length and a 14.75 wheelbase. It's pretty much the only board I can ride at this point, everything seems tiny in comparison. the 0.07 is not noticable[close]
Thanks for the tip! AH have my favorite shapes, I'll have to be on the lookout for one of these!
Thanks for the tip! AH have my favorite shapes, I'll have to be on the lookout for one of these!Expand Quotenot quite to the specific dimensions, but Anti-Hero (and real, krooked) have an 8.43 with a 32.57 length and a 14.75 wheelbase. It's pretty much the only board I can ride at this point, everything seems tiny in comparison. the 0.07 is not noticableExpand QuoteExpand QuoteAlso I think as I get older I dwell to much on gear and start to notice things I wouldn't have when I was younger. I skated so much that my stuff would wear out before I could notice any imperfections. It seems now I'm looking for a skateboard product equivalent of the fountain of youth. If I find that concave, wheel, or shape I will get my old tricks back! Thanks for your feedback and have a great day everybody![close]
I, too, am looking for the holy grail ;) Seriously, I'm the exact same way and I'm VERY close.
8.5"x32.5" + 14.75/15" WB, Fat nose and tail (like Anti Hero shapes but not anti hero dimensions) - Anyone give me a brand like that that isn't elephant?
Theeves for street ACEs for bowls
Spit F4s - classics for now but I think that conical my be the clincher - I've always hated the STF feel and autobahns don't slide like the F4s.[close][close]
Expand QuoteAre the 101 tablets still available? Can't find them anywhere.[close]
DLX discontinued the F4 tablet for the SFW F4
Here are the new specs for the updated f4 shapes.
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spitfire suks great marketing tho
Fuck it, I'm tired of waiting for the conicals. Going to just pick up some OJ's.
I just called both of my locals, one didn't know they existed, the other said he just gets whatever you guys send. Do you know if the DLX store has any? I'll drive up there tomorrow morning if they do.Expand QuoteFuck it, I'm tired of waiting for the conicals. Going to just pick up some OJ's.[close]
They are out right now!
Tell your local shop to order some!
What size did you want?I'm looking for 52s. I don't really care though, I'll go up or down a mm. 56 is a little large thanks though.
Have 56 101s coming.
29 pagesmanya few negative reviews
no 20 page bones threadbecause they work betterBecause nobody here likes Bones
Expand Quotetracer post
a quoted tracer post
no need for a quoted tracer postbecause i should see itBecause tracer should be on every ignore list[close]
Dude you gotta understand, it's pretty hilarious a 29 page thread about wheels. Are these guys on the take or what? Someone always bumps this thread probably from SF or called Spitfire for lyfeExpand Quote29 pagesmanya few negative reviews
no 20 page bones threadbecause they work betterBecause nobody here likes Bones[close]
I'm a big fan of Bones but here's the thing. SPFs are great in smooth parks but feel like shit on the streets. STFs are amazing wheels but can be a bit too slick in smooth parks and only go up to 55mm.
Spitfire F4s 99a are just fucking great all rounders and just 'feel' better. For me its all about the 'slip to grip' ratio and 'rebound.' Spitfire nailed it with these wheels. I'm not from SF or on the take. I'm an old bastard who rode Spitfires all through the 90s and reluctantly stopped when I felt the quality dropped in the 2000s. Now they're back on point with the F4s.
Really looking forward to trying some full conicals in the 100a.
I'm a big fan of Bones but here's the thing. SPFs are great in smooth parks but feel like shit on the streets. STFs are amazing wheels but can be a bit too slick in smooth parks and only go up to 55mm.You can tell spitfire is a scam becuase they use words like DURO, DUAL DUROMETER, and stupid letters and numbers to describe their wheels.
Spitfire F4s 99a are just fucking great all rounders and just 'feel' better. For me its all about the 'slip to grip' ratio and 'rebound.' Spitfire nailed it with these wheels. I'm not from SF or on the take. I'm an old bastard who rode Spitfires all through the 90s and reluctantly stopped when I felt the quality dropped in the 2000s. Now they're back on point with the F4s.
Really looking forward to trying some full conicals in the 100a.
EVERY FUCKING WHEEL COMPANY DOES THIS, INCLUDING BONES.
You can tell spitfire is a scam becuase they use words like DURO, DUAL DUROMETER, and stupid letters and numbers to describe their wheels.
Bones just produce and call it like it is, a street wheel and a park wheel. If you ride 55+ then you aren't skating much street anyways
You can tell spitfire is a scam becuase they use words like DURO, DUAL DUROMETER, and stupid letters and numbers to describe their wheels.Expand QuoteI'm a big fan of Bones but here's the thing. SPFs are great in smooth parks but feel like shit on the streets. STFs are amazing wheels but can be a bit too slick in smooth parks and only go up to 55mm.
Spitfire F4s 99a are just fucking great all rounders and just 'feel' better. For me its all about the 'slip to grip' ratio and 'rebound.' Spitfire nailed it with these wheels. I'm not from SF or on the take. I'm an old bastard who rode Spitfires all through the 90s and reluctantly stopped when I felt the quality dropped in the 2000s. Now they're back on point with the F4s.
Really looking forward to trying some full conicals in the 100a.[close]
Bones just produce and call it like it is, a street wheel and a park wheel. If you ride 55+ then you aren't skating much street anyways
Get that shit checked out bro.Expand QuoteYou can tell spitfire is a scam becuase they use words like DURO, DUAL DUROMETER, and stupid letters and numbers to describe their wheels.Expand QuoteI'm a big fan of Bones but here's the thing. SPFs are great in smooth parks but feel like shit on the streets. STFs are amazing wheels but can be a bit too slick in smooth parks and only go up to 55mm.
Spitfire F4s 99a are just fucking great all rounders and just 'feel' better. For me its all about the 'slip to grip' ratio and 'rebound.' Spitfire nailed it with these wheels. I'm not from SF or on the take. I'm an old bastard who rode Spitfires all through the 90s and reluctantly stopped when I felt the quality dropped in the 2000s. Now they're back on point with the F4s.
Really looking forward to trying some full conicals in the 100a.[close]
Bones just produce and call it like it is, a street wheel and a park wheel. If you ride 55+ then you aren't skating much street anyways[close]
Yeah, perhaps a different type of 'street' to the likes of a cunt like yourself?
Get that shit checked out bro.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteYou can tell spitfire is a scam becuase they use words like DURO, DUAL DUROMETER, and stupid letters and numbers to describe their wheels.Expand QuoteI'm a big fan of Bones but here's the thing. SPFs are great in smooth parks but feel like shit on the streets. STFs are amazing wheels but can be a bit too slick in smooth parks and only go up to 55mm.
Spitfire F4s 99a are just fucking great all rounders and just 'feel' better. For me its all about the 'slip to grip' ratio and 'rebound.' Spitfire nailed it with these wheels. I'm not from SF or on the take. I'm an old bastard who rode Spitfires all through the 90s and reluctantly stopped when I felt the quality dropped in the 2000s. Now they're back on point with the F4s.
Really looking forward to trying some full conicals in the 100a.[close]
Bones just produce and call it like it is, a street wheel and a park wheel. If you ride 55+ then you aren't skating much street anyways[close]
Yeah, perhaps a different type of 'street' to the likes of a cunt like yourself?[close]
STF has 5 DIFFERENT sizes, Spitfire has 2 if you're lucky. Get with the times bro Spitfire is a shit company with no flatspot guarantees
I bought some f4 a couple of days ago and have had quite a few chunks come off. They also are cracking in a few places. I love the way they feel, but I was wondering if this is normal for them. I only skate my local park and I'm not to hard on them. I know this sounds silly but I'm kinda bummed on the quality and don't want to go back to Bones.Not normal at all! I skate the 101duro 52mm classic shape f4s, and my 3 month old set has seen some rough concrete and have one tiny chip from bombing a hill into a gravel alleyway.
I'm looking for 52s.
just ordered a couple sets of 53 99d conical fulls, cant wait too try them ;D
Expand Quotejust ordered a couple sets of 53 99d conical fulls, cant wait too try them ;D[close]
where'd you find 53's?
I just ditched my new F4s to return to Bones.daYyuuMmm wasn't your rep 8 yesterday? and look at it now. slap loVes the f4's!!
They're hard but the compound isn't as good.
Not enough slide in them.
daYyuuMmm wasn't your rep 8 yesterday? and look at it now. slap loVes the f4's!!Expand QuoteI just ditched my new F4s to return to Bones.
They're hard but the compound isn't as good.
Not enough slide in them.[close]
I got some 99s "Classic Full" shape. Are they any different from just the Classics?
Expand QuoteI got some 99s "Classic Full" shape. Are they any different from just the Classics?[close]
as the name suggests its a fuller shape, more riding surface
Im a die-hard STFs fan, are the 101 F4s similar to them? I would love to support Spitfire for a change, but their wheels never worked for me in the past..I think if you read back over the 28 page topic you will have some insight into the feel.
Im a die-hard STFs fan, are the 101 F4s similar to them? I would love to support Spitfire for a change, but their wheels never worked for me in the past..
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI got some 99s "Classic Full" shape. Are they any different from just the Classics?[close]
as the name suggests its a fuller shape, more riding surface[close]
hmm, the riding surface seems about the same as Classics to me.. I guess it's a very small difference. Cheers
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI got some 99s "Classic Full" shape. Are they any different from just the Classics?[close]
as the name suggests its a fuller shape, more riding surface[close]
hmm, the riding surface seems about the same as Classics to me.. I guess it's a very small difference. Cheers[close]
Classic Full's are a little bit wider, just like the Bigheads in the classic formula.
Wreck has managed to create a super hard, super smooth wheel that doesn't slide for shit. It's a beautiful thing
Has anyone seen/skated the regular conicals? The Full ones just seem like they would be too fat. Maybe I'm wrong...At 52mm classic shape has a riding surface of 15.5mm, just conical has a riding surface of 19.5mm, conical full (SFW) is 21mm. Hope that helped. Full charts here: http://spitfirewheels.com/formulafour/ (http://spitfirewheels.com/formulafour/)
Has anyone seen/skated the regular conicals? The Full ones just seem like they would be too fat. Maybe I'm wrong...
Expand QuoteHas anyone seen/skated the regular conicals? The Full ones just seem like they would be too fat. Maybe I'm wrong...[close]
I was debating over Full/Conical Full for a few weeks; finally bit the bullet on CFulls, I'll let you know my thoughts today when they arrive!
Colored conical full?it's badass green http://socalskateshop.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=50111 (http://socalskateshop.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=50111)
Whoah cool.
Not that 1mm makes or breaks anything but I like 55mm!
Xen is slaps resident wheel junkie. I trust him over all other biased reviewers
My current wheels are OJs with sidecuts. I think they have similar dimensions to the 'regular' F4 conicals.
I've never had anything but the general 'classic' shape until these but I think the conical/tablet/Bullet shape does stay locked in better on smiths, etc.
Anyone rode the f4 classic full? I just ordered a set of reynolds f4's, and they were mislabeled on the site as classic, but i later found out they are classic full. Never had f4's, or classics fulls, just curious.....Spitfire F4 classic = Bones STF v1 while Spitfire F4 classic full = Bones STF v4 shape wise. Main difference is that F4 classic full increases in riding surface by 3mm~
Anyone rode the f4 classic full? I just ordered a set of reynolds f4's, and they were mislabeled on the site as classic, but i later found out they are classic full. Never had f4's, or classics fulls, just curious.....
anyone get a set with an off colored wheel? i'm kind of digging it.
It might just be me, but I've noticed that they were darker in color when they first came out and in the earlier batches. Seems like they made them brighter and closer to white over time.
Expand QuoteAnyone rode the f4 classic full? I just ordered a set of reynolds f4's, and they were mislabeled on the site as classic, but i later found out they are classic full. Never had f4's, or classics fulls, just curious.....[close]
did you get them from socalskateshop??
Expand Quoteanyone get a set with an off colored wheel? i'm kind of digging it.[close]
like the set they did with the one blue or red, or just an actual darker/lighter wheel in the normal urethane color?
the set of ishod pro ones i saw looked way darker than the ones i've seen in the past or the conical fulls i bought the other week
made them look dirty from the start
Expand QuoteExpand Quoteanyone get a set with an off colored wheel? i'm kind of digging it.[close]
like the set they did with the one blue or red, or just an actual darker/lighter wheel in the normal urethane color?
the set of ishod pro ones i saw looked way darker than the ones i've seen in the past or the conical fulls i bought the other week
made them look dirty from the start[close]
i just logged back on to clarify. Off color was the wrong term. It just one blue wheel. its very blue and its clearly intentional. the wheels are fucking sick and well worth the 30+ page thread that they have spawned. sorry for the confusion.
the full classic 101 is perfect. the extra surface evens out how slidy the 101's are.
(http://scontent-a.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xaf1/t51.2885-15/10735605_1525592104351466_1538096778_a.jpg)Wow, it still looks in good condition too.
took these down too a 49 after 5 months of skating, feels so weird putting new 53's on, hopefully get to put them through hell today
Wow, it still looks in good condition too.Expand Quotetook these down too a 49 after 5 months of skating, feels so weird putting new 53's on, hopefully get to put them through hell today[close]
Not sure if Im going to buy the conical or conical full F1's next.. Think the full's might actually be to wide for me. Could someone post a picture that shows the riding surface of them?Don't have a skateshop near you? You should be fully lurkin after a post like that
Thanks!
are the mike andersen sfw non formula 4 the same width as conical fulls?
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/ttowndave/821f7883-c4c3-4871-af9c-77059516e995.jpg)
Don't have a skateshop near you? You should be fully lurkin after a post like thatExpand QuoteNot sure if Im going to buy the conical or conical full F1's next.. Think the full's might actually be to wide for me. Could someone post a picture that shows the riding surface of them?
Thanks![close]
on my 3rd set in a little over a yearTo remind yourself how good they actually are once you get spoiled and take the product for standard granted.
why the fuck would you ride anything else
Not sure if Im going to buy the conical or conical full F4's next.. Think the full's might actually be to wide for me. Could someone post a picture that shows the riding surface of them?
Thanks!
So I just set-up some 99a 53mm Ishod F4s with a new pair of trucks (Thunder 147s). I was riding 100a 53mm F1 Streetburners for the past ~year. Definitely liking the F4s but I'm not sure how much of it is due to new/fast wheels/bearings. They do seem to slide better than the F1s while riding/feeling "softer" (if that makes any sense at all...). Also grabbed a set of 53mm 101a F4s to try but it looks like winter's here to stay.
Is it just me or do these wheels "sound" dead?? Grabbed my board from the trunk, dropped it on the ground and the "thunkclunk" sounded a lot closer to shitty blank wheels than my F1s did. They skated perfectly fine pop-wise but the sound was a bit of a throw-off for the first couple of ollies
Expand QuoteSo I just set-up some 99a 53mm Ishod F4s with a new pair of trucks (Thunder 147s). I was riding 100a 53mm F1 Streetburners for the past ~year. Definitely liking the F4s but I'm not sure how much of it is due to new/fast wheels/bearings. They do seem to slide better than the F1s while riding/feeling "softer" (if that makes any sense at all...). Also grabbed a set of 53mm 101a F4s to try but it looks like winter's here to stay.
Is it just me or do these wheels "sound" dead?? Grabbed my board from the trunk, dropped it on the ground and the "thunkclunk" sounded a lot closer to shitty blank wheels than my F1s did. They skated perfectly fine pop-wise but the sound was a bit of a throw-off for the first couple of ollies[close]
Axle bolts too tight? I find that boards can sound dead (and wheels are not as screechy) of there is no play on the wheels.
This. While new bearings/wheels should feel great, often times the first day or two the wheels feel almost softer than they really are, give it a bit.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteSo I just set-up some 99a 53mm Ishod F4s with a new pair of trucks (Thunder 147s). I was riding 100a 53mm F1 Streetburners for the past ~year. Definitely liking the F4s but I'm not sure how much of it is due to new/fast wheels/bearings. They do seem to slide better than the F1s while riding/feeling "softer" (if that makes any sense at all...). Also grabbed a set of 53mm 101a F4s to try but it looks like winter's here to stay.
Is it just me or do these wheels "sound" dead?? Grabbed my board from the trunk, dropped it on the ground and the "thunkclunk" sounded a lot closer to shitty blank wheels than my F1s did. They skated perfectly fine pop-wise but the sound was a bit of a throw-off for the first couple of ollies[close]
Axle bolts too tight? I find that boards can sound dead (and wheels are not as screechy) of there is no play on the wheels.[close]
New bearings will also change the sound a bit until the grease gets worn down.
This. While new bearings/wheels should feel great, often times the first day or two the wheels feel almost softer than they really are, give it a bit.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteSo I just set-up some 99a 53mm Ishod F4s with a new pair of trucks (Thunder 147s). I was riding 100a 53mm F1 Streetburners for the past ~year. Definitely liking the F4s but I'm not sure how much of it is due to new/fast wheels/bearings. They do seem to slide better than the F1s while riding/feeling "softer" (if that makes any sense at all...). Also grabbed a set of 53mm 101a F4s to try but it looks like winter's here to stay.
Is it just me or do these wheels "sound" dead?? Grabbed my board from the trunk, dropped it on the ground and the "thunkclunk" sounded a lot closer to shitty blank wheels than my F1s did. They skated perfectly fine pop-wise but the sound was a bit of a throw-off for the first couple of ollies[close]
Axle bolts too tight? I find that boards can sound dead (and wheels are not as screechy) of there is no play on the wheels.[close]
New bearings will also change the sound a bit until the grease gets worn down.[close]
Excuse my ignorance but what are the advantages of a wider riding surface outside of more grip in transition? It seems like for street skating it wouldn't be ideal because a wider wheel in theory would be slower with more rolling resistance, more surface area to catch on pebbles or shit in the road and I'm guessing it takes more effort to slideNo advantages really... I don't even feel them gripping that much more than the classic shape tbh. 149s are too big for me so the conical full are perfect for those trucks. Giving me a little more width makes me think the hanger is smaller than it actually is. I got the regular conical on my main setup. No advantages whatsoever. You lock in just as good with the classic shape. I've always prefered conical shapes over classic. Was riding Bones v2 all the time before F4 got out on the market. That's all there's to it.
Conical & Conical Full. Both being 52mm
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Hit up DLX. They will help you out. One thing that I love about them is they simply stand by all of their products. I never hesitate to buy anything from them because I know if I have an issue, they'll make it right.
Probably the best dudes in the skate industry when it comes to taking care of their customers
Ok, I hate to bump a topic that's faded a bit but no better thread to toss this...
All of the snow we got melted over the past couple of days so I skated flat yesterday for a quick 20 minutes. Went to check my board today and saw this...
(http://i.imgur.com/DyH76Q5l.jpg)
I don't want to take them back to my shop and be a pain in the ass... shit happens. This was definitely from a rock while trying to "skid out" a couple bs180s. That said, I can definitely feel/hear the "flatspot" and while I know it'll skate down, I paid full price and the wheels have under 5 hrs of riding on them.
Any recommendations? Already bought a set of F1 streetburners to ride but this is a bit disappointing given the hype these wheels have gotten
Ok, I hate to bump a topic that's faded a bit but no better thread to toss this...
All of the snow we got melted over the past couple of days so I skated flat yesterday for a quick 20 minutes. Went to check my board today and saw this...
(http://i.imgur.com/DyH76Q5l.jpg)
I don't want to take them back to my shop and be a pain in the ass... shit happens. This was definitely from a rock while trying to "skid out" a couple bs180s. That said, I can definitely feel/hear the "flatspot" and while I know it'll skate down, I paid full price and the wheels have under 5 hrs of riding on them.
Any recommendations? Already bought a set of F1 streetburners to ride but this is a bit disappointing given the hype these wheels have gotten
this happened to me on some f4 52mm classic shaped 99a's and fixed it self within one session of just rolling it self out...
PM'd!
Expand Quotethis happened to me on some f4 52mm classic shaped 99a's and fixed it self within one session of just rolling it self out...[close]
Thanks for the feedback fulfillthedream. These are the 99a's and it definitely looks/feels like it'll skate itself out (which is why I didn't go back to my shop) but...Expand QuotePM'd![close]
... good thing DLXSF has the whole "customer service" thing on lockdown. Thanks again for the help everyone/DLXSF and Lenny, I would totally gnar you if I could!
Expand QuoteExpand Quotethis happened to me on some f4 52mm classic shaped 99a's and fixed it self within one session of just rolling it self out...[close]
Thanks for the feedback fulfillthedream. These are the 99a's and it definitely looks/feels like it'll skate itself out (which is why I didn't go back to my shop) but...Expand QuotePM'd![close]
... good thing DLXSF has the whole "customer service" thing on lockdown. Thanks again for the help everyone/DLXSF and Lenny, I would totally gnar you if I could![close]
fuck yeah- DLX's assurance on quality is ON POINT... I've had a few "damaged" products after the usual wear and tear of skateboarding but it's sick they're down to honor their warranties 100%
a homie of mine posted some 2 year old thunders that were down to the aceels on instagram- there was a small little crack but the trucks were on their way out any how- Jim T commented "we'll replace those" and my homie declined the offer cause he felt he got his money's worth...
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quotethis happened to me on some f4 52mm classic shaped 99a's and fixed it self within one session of just rolling it self out...[close]
Thanks for the feedback fulfillthedream. These are the 99a's and it definitely looks/feels like it'll skate itself out (which is why I didn't go back to my shop) but...Expand QuotePM'd![close]
... good thing DLXSF has the whole "customer service" thing on lockdown. Thanks again for the help everyone/DLXSF and Lenny, I would totally gnar you if I could![close]
fuck yeah- DLX's assurance on quality is ON POINT... I've had a few "damaged" products after the usual wear and tear of skateboarding but it's sick they're down to honor their warranties 100%
a homie of mine posted some 2 year old thunders that were down to the aceels on instagram- there was a small little crack but the trucks were on their way out any how- Jim T commented "we'll replace those" and my homie declined the offer cause he felt he got his money's worth...[close]
If you're gonna post about the bad, you gotta post about the good. This came in the mail today...
(http://i.imgur.com/HtGkJuBl.jpg)
Thanks very much Reed, Deluxe and Supra distribution! Spitfire's getting all my wheel money in the future
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quotethis happened to me on some f4 52mm classic shaped 99a's and fixed it self within one session of just rolling it self out...[close]
Thanks for the feedback fulfillthedream. These are the 99a's and it definitely looks/feels like it'll skate itself out (which is why I didn't go back to my shop) but...Expand QuotePM'd![close]
... good thing DLXSF has the whole "customer service" thing on lockdown. Thanks again for the help everyone/DLXSF and Lenny, I would totally gnar you if I could![close]
fuck yeah- DLX's assurance on quality is ON POINT... I've had a few "damaged" products after the usual wear and tear of skateboarding but it's sick they're down to honor their warranties 100%
a homie of mine posted some 2 year old thunders that were down to the aceels on instagram- there was a small little crack but the trucks were on their way out any how- Jim T commented "we'll replace those" and my homie declined the offer cause he felt he got his money's worth...[close]
If you're gonna post about the bad, you gotta post about the good. This came in the mail today...
(http://i.imgur.com/HtGkJuBl.jpg)
Thanks very much Reed, Deluxe and Supra distribution! Spitfire's getting all my wheel money in the future
hey Lenny, i just bought some of these Speedies for my daughters first skateboard, i wanted to ask if these bubbles are normal, they are on all of the wheels on the inside by the core, and one wheel has a bubble on the riding surface. if its normal and wont effect their function im not worried about it but i thought i should check with you. thanks. (sorry for the huge pics guys)
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(http://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af305/tangar07/skate%20stuff/53D36FED-E657-4B12-A414-030426F8EAA1_zps600uyntm.jpg) (http://s1018.photobucket.com/user/tangar07/media/skate%20stuff/53D36FED-E657-4B12-A414-030426F8EAA1_zps600uyntm.jpg.html)
(http://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af305/tangar07/skate%20stuff/7CFF57B5-3139-47E0-8CD0-C4E5F13C593E_zpszl7zs20e.jpg) (http://s1018.photobucket.com/user/tangar07/media/skate%20stuff/7CFF57B5-3139-47E0-8CD0-C4E5F13C593E_zpszl7zs20e.jpg.html)
Sorry to bump an old thread, but are comparable sized conical fulls wider than the Mike Anderson wheels? Like are 56 mm conical fulls the same width as 56mm manderson wheels?I don't have the measurements, but I had the manderson's while my friend has the Concial Fulls in the same size, and they look exactly the same. I'm pretty sure it's the same shape/dimensions, just a different name. Maybe they changed the name since the SFW is technically Manderson's wheel, this way the F4's can be labeled as team wheels?
I don't have the measurements, but I had the manderson's while my friend has the Concial Fulls in the same size, and they look exactly the same. I'm pretty sure it's the same shape/dimensions, just a different name. Maybe they changed the name since the SFW is technically Manderson's wheel, this way the F4's can be labeled as team wheels?Expand QuoteSorry to bump an old thread, but are comparable sized conical fulls wider than the Mike Anderson wheels? Like are 56 mm conical fulls the same width as 56mm manderson wheels?[close]
ight so i had the FULL shape 99's when they first came out and wanna try the conicals again, but the full 99's didn't really slide like i wanted. ive had the 101 and 99 classics, and the 101 was a little too slick at times. what i wanna know is if i get the regular conicals in a 101, will it kinda balance out the hardness? i guess i just wanna know if they will kinda have a balance of grip and slide like the classic 99 or what?
I like being able to skate a smaller wheel with the riding surface of a larger wheel.
Ok, I hate to bump a topic that's faded a bit but no better thread to toss this...
All of the snow we got melted over the past couple of days so I skated flat yesterday for a quick 20 minutes. Went to check my board today and saw this...
(http://i.imgur.com/DyH76Q5l.jpg)
I don't want to take them back to my shop and be a pain in the ass... shit happens. This was definitely from a rock while trying to "skid out" a couple bs180s. That said, I can definitely feel/hear the "flatspot" and while I know it'll skate down, I paid full price and the wheels have under 5 hrs of riding on them.
Any recommendations? Already bought a set of F1 streetburners to ride but this is a bit disappointing given the hype these wheels have gotten
Radials look good. Wide like the conical fulls but very rounded radius.The radius is a good option if the wheelbite from the conical fulls is a big problem.
(http://www.dlxsf.com/spring15/img/sf/dt/02-RADIAL-FEATURE-DT-1-1200.jpg)
Expand QuoteOk, I hate to bump a topic that's faded a bit but no better thread to toss this...
All of the snow we got melted over the past couple of days so I skated flat yesterday for a quick 20 minutes. Went to check my board today and saw this...
(http://i.imgur.com/DyH76Q5l.jpg)
I don't want to take them back to my shop and be a pain in the ass... shit happens. This was definitely from a rock while trying to "skid out" a couple bs180s. That said, I can definitely feel/hear the "flatspot" and while I know it'll skate down, I paid full price and the wheels have under 5 hrs of riding on them.
Any recommendations? Already bought a set of F1 streetburners to ride but this is a bit disappointing given the hype these wheels have gotten[close]
/agree
That isn't a product defect nor is it a flatspot. What is truly disappointing is the lack of self accountability that is plaguing individuals today. Learn how to do a proper full 180 and buck up and ride the wheels out.
Radials look good. Wide like the conical fulls but very rounded radius.When, where can I get these? Release date?
(http://www.dlxsf.com/spring15/img/sf/dt/02-RADIAL-FEATURE-DT-1-1200.jpg)
Right now, 52s were all that are available.52s the size I skate. Any places online that have them?
Other sizes this month probably.
52s the size I skate. Any places online that have them?Expand QuoteRight now, 52s were all that are available.
Other sizes this month probably.[close]
Or is DLX just kinda flowing them to people until all the sizes are available?
Does anybody know what shape the Ishod Formula Fours are?
I know wide wheels are the current trend but it would be sweet to see some F4 Slims come outYes.
Yes.Expand QuoteI know wide wheels are the current trend but it would be sweet to see some F4 Slims come out[close]
I've always been one to prefer a slimmer wheel. An F4 in a slim shape would be an insta-buy for me.
Wider wheels are more resistant to flatspots, offer better grip and turn better. That may sound odd but like cars a wider tire offers a better turn. Those of us who skate slippery parks or destroy a set of wheels in a session have learned to appreciate a wider cut.
Wider wheels are more resistant to flatspots, offer better grip and turn better. That may sound odd but like cars a wider tire offers a better turn. Those of us who skate slippery parks or destroy a set of wheels in a session have learned to appreciate a wider cut.
Unless I'm riding a 58mm+ or something on a big ass board I don't see the appeal of wide or 'full' shapes.
Think we'll ever see a lock-in F4? This is the shape I always loved for coping. I think the last ones around were some for AVE
Quote from: The Nose Face link=topic=68020.msg2280937#msg2280937 date=1422397893Expand QuoteThink we'll ever see a lock-in F4? This is the shape I always loved for coping. I think the last ones around were some for AVE[close]
Maybe if AVE gets a pro edition like how lance has a conical full one out now, they did F1 lock ins right?
Just getting out to shops now, assuming it's january we are all pretty slow now so be a bit before anyone is stocking them.Expand Quote52s the size I skate. Any places online that have them?Expand QuoteRight now, 52s were all that are available.
Other sizes this month probably.[close]
Or is DLX just kinda flowing them to people until all the sizes are available?[close]
Just wanted to poke my head in and say that I'm really digging my 54mm 101a formula fours. Mostly skated parks with them and they can be a little slick at times, but overall I am very happy with them. I tested them out on a few neighborhood hills and they powerslid so easily. Honestly it was kind of scary because I didn't seem to lose any speed at all. Unfortunatly they chunked on me, but I hit up LennyDLXSF, and he was able to get me a replacement set. Excited to skate these wheels, and grab the 99a next time around. I don't see myself ever riding a pair of non-spitfire wheels. Thanks again Reed!
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I will say this, for guys who like bones but also like them to slide a bit more like spitfires, get coloured formula's, for some strange reason they seem to slide way better than the standard white. (would be curious to know if anyone agree's with me & could possibly explain why that is?)
I had the homoki yellows and slid them until a massive flatspot ruined it. They were my fav wheels until I got wrecks, not Im back on STFExpand Quote
I will say this, for guys who like bones but also like them to slide a bit more like spitfires, get coloured formula's, for some strange reason they seem to slide way better than the standard white. (would be curious to know if anyone agree's with me & could possibly explain why that is?)[close]
i was looking over this thread and due to a miss click end on this page.
its not just you, colored bones slide and feel better, buddy of mine felt the same way with his his yellow homoki stfs and me with my greeen schroder spfs...this was two years or so ago tho.
I wouldn't normally bother with this, but I recently got some 52mm Luan Conical F4's, only skated to the shops on them twice and they chunked on me already and that really doesn't seem right to me. The last set of F4's I had were great and lasted months. I live in London, UK though and not quite sure who is best to contact with this? Any help much appreciated!
I wouldn't normally bother with this, but I recently got some 52mm Luan Conical F4's, only skated to the shops on them twice and they chunked on me already and that really doesn't seem right to me. The last set of F4's I had were great and lasted months. I live in London, UK though and not quite sure who is best to contact with this? Any help much appreciated!
I wouldn't normally bother with this, but I recently got some 52mm Luan Conical F4's, only skated to the shops on them twice and they chunked on me already and that really doesn't seem right to me. The last set of F4's I had were great and lasted months. I live in London, UK though and not quite sure who is best to contact with this? Any help much appreciated!I see what your saying, but man, skate down a hill and do some reverts and or over some tight packed cobbles stones, "problem"solved. We got rough ground in Canada and shitty sidewalks too and every set of wheels i ride does this(usually in the first few days) and the performance is NOT effected. No sense wasting a perfectly good set of new wheels. Amazing wheels at that.
I see what your saying, but man, skate down a hill and do some reverts and or over some tight packed cobbles stones, "problem"solved. We got rough ground in Canada and shitty sidewalks too and every set of wheels i ride does this(usually in the first few days) and the performance is NOT effected. No sense wasting a perfectly good set of new wheels. Amazing wheels at that.Expand QuoteI wouldn't normally bother with this, but I recently got some 52mm Luan Conical F4's, only skated to the shops on them twice and they chunked on me already and that really doesn't seem right to me. The last set of F4's I had were great and lasted months. I live in London, UK though and not quite sure who is best to contact with this? Any help much appreciated![close]
Expand QuoteI see what your saying, but man, skate down a hill and do some reverts and or over some tight packed cobbles stones, "problem"solved. We got rough ground in Canada and shitty sidewalks too and every set of wheels i ride does this(usually in the first few days) and the performance is NOT effected. No sense wasting a perfectly good set of new wheels. Amazing wheels at that.Expand QuoteI wouldn't normally bother with this, but I recently got some 52mm Luan Conical F4's, only skated to the shops on them twice and they chunked on me already and that really doesn't seem right to me. The last set of F4's I had were great and lasted months. I live in London, UK though and not quite sure who is best to contact with this? Any help much appreciated![close][close]
You're right, like I said it wouldn't normally bother me, just seemed a bit off when it happened after 10-15 minutes only skating down the street! Never happened to any wheels I had before, I'd normally expect a bit more wear before this sort of thing. I guess London has a lot to answer for tbh!
Funny that I'm seeing lot of complaints about chunks missing from wheels, that shit actually happened to me on a set of STFs I'm currently riding. The F4s I had were getting worn down too small for my tastes, so I set up a set of old but still in good condition STFs I had lying around, that I've maybe used for only a month and a half previously before switching them out. After the second session with them again I look at one of my wheels and notice this:
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You probably can't tell from the angle of the picture but the chunk actually goes pretty deep in.
Gonna try to contact skateone soon about it. Though I heard their customer service is hit or miss compared to DLXs.
^^^
I am aware, but I am also aware that something like what happened to my wheel isn't exactly something that is an everyday thing. I probably should've mentioned in my previous post that that chunk happened from running over a little pebble. I've had a few sets of F4s, some other STFs in the past, street burners, and countless other kinds of wheels throughout the years, and I've never had this happen with any other wheel from just running over a pebble, let alone anything like that happen ever, til now that is. So you can see why I was a bit taken back by that when I saw it. And like I said, you can't really tell by the photo, but it's a pretty big and deep chunk missing. A decent wheel should not have chunks missing from just running over pebbles.
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That is one old wheel. No need to complain about a chunk missing. It has no relation to the riding surface. Just keep on pushing through IT!!!!
Hah, I find it funny that a good number of you are bashing on this and saying suck it up, while in other threads, like the skate superstitions threads that have been made, I see a lot of you write about how you can't skate a board if it's a millimeter off or if the top ply is a certain color, so you'll replace it, or how if your griptape chunks out at the edges too much or gets too dirty you'll peel it off and replace it, etc. If there are people who are bothered by things as trivial as that, then I'm guessing something like a big chunk missing from a wheel would be enough to bother a good number of people on here, despite all the "who cares just deal with it" responses that have been given. You don't think you care, until it happens to you and everytime youre looking at your board you just see that chunk staring back at you. Skateboarding breeds certain types of neuroticism, especially those pertaining to your gear, so I can understand all the other replies on here about chunks missing from wheels, and all the other replies in other threads about not being able to skate a certain griptape, a deck because of the top ply color, etc.
And a chunk like that would just get bigger and bigger over time. What happens as you keep riding on it and run over more pebbles and rough asphalt skating around? It opens it up more and makes the chunk bigger over time, which can effect the overall quality of the wheel.
But whatever, I already know this post is just gonna keep getting the same "dude, just deal with it" responses, so keep em coming!
Hah, I find it funny that a good number of you are bashing on this and saying suck it up, while in other threads, like the skate superstitions threads that have been made, I see a lot of you write about how you can't skate a board if it's a millimeter off or if the top ply is a certain color, so you'll replace it, or how if your griptape chunks out at the edges too much or gets too dirty you'll peel it off and replace it, etc. If there are people who are bothered by things as trivial as that, then I'm guessing something like a big chunk missing from a wheel would be enough to bother a good number of people on here, despite all the "who cares just deal with it" responses that have been given. You don't think you care, until it happens to you and everytime youre looking at your board you just see that chunk staring back at you. Skateboarding breeds certain types of neuroticism, especially those pertaining to your gear, so I can understand all the other replies on here about chunks missing from wheels, and all the other replies in other threads about not being able to skate a certain griptape, a deck because of the top ply color, etc.
And a chunk like that would just get bigger and bigger over time. What happens as you keep riding on it and run over more pebbles and rough asphalt skating around? It opens it up more and makes the chunk bigger over time, which can effect the overall quality of the wheel.
But whatever, I already know this post is just gonna keep getting the same "dude, just deal with it" responses, so keep em coming!
Hah, I find it funny that a good number of you are bashing on this and saying suck it up, while in other threads, like the skate superstitions threads that have been made, I see a lot of you write about how you can't skate a board if it's a millimeter off or if the top ply is a certain color, so you'll replace it, or how if your griptape chunks out at the edges too much or gets too dirty you'll peel it off and replace it, etc. If there are people who are bothered by things as trivial as that, then I'm guessing something like a big chunk missing from a wheel would be enough to bother a good number of people on here, despite all the "who cares just deal with it" responses that have been given. You don't think you care, until it happens to you and everytime youre looking at your board you just see that chunk staring back at you. Skateboarding breeds certain types of neuroticism, especially those pertaining to your gear, so I can understand all the other replies on here about chunks missing from wheels, and all the other replies in other threads about not being able to skate a certain griptape, a deck because of the top ply color, etc.
And a chunk like that would just get bigger and bigger over time. What happens as you keep riding on it and run over more pebbles and rough asphalt skating around? It opens it up more and makes the chunk bigger over time, which can effect the overall quality of the wheel.
But whatever, I already know this post is just gonna keep getting the same "dude, just deal with it" responses, so keep em coming!
I'd love a slimmer conical cut. Just sayin' :P
Expand QuoteI'd love a slimmer conical cut. Just sayin' :P[close]
Second this
How slippy are the 101's? Can't decide between Conical fulls in 99d or 101d. Any help appreciated.The conical fulls in 101a are the perfect combo imo. The regular 101's are a little slick at time, but the extra width helps with that a lot. I feel like the 99's in the conical shape would be a little too hard to slide.
The conical fulls in 101a are the perfect combo imo. The regular 101's are a little slick at time, but the extra width helps with that a lot. I feel like the 99's in the conical shape would be a little too hard to slide.Expand QuoteHow slippy are the 101's? Can't decide between Conical fulls in 99d or 101d. Any help appreciated.[close]
Expand QuoteThe conical fulls in 101a are the perfect combo imo. The regular 101's are a little slick at time, but the extra width helps with that a lot. I feel like the 99's in the conical shape would be a little too hard to slide.Expand QuoteHow slippy are the 101's? Can't decide between Conical fulls in 99d or 101d. Any help appreciated.[close][close]
i've had a set of 99 conical fulls since they came out and at first, yes they were a little difficult to get a nice slide out of them, but after a week or so they felt great.
I've had two sets of 101s now, they've been amazing on the streets perfect power slides all the fun stuff, but they feel a little icy in some parks. They're old now so they're fine in most concrete parks, a little sketchy but no big deal. The only place I wish I had the 99s is this one DIY spot where the concrete is like garage floor material and I slip out and feel like I'm going to constantly eat shit on.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteThe conical fulls in 101a are the perfect combo imo. The regular 101's are a little slick at time, but the extra width helps with that a lot. I feel like the 99's in the conical shape would be a little too hard to slide.Expand QuoteHow slippy are the 101's? Can't decide between Conical fulls in 99d or 101d. Any help appreciated.[close][close]
i've had a set of 99 conical fulls since they came out and at first, yes they were a little difficult to get a nice slide out of them, but after a week or so they felt great.[close]
So feel you can slide on them pretty easily after that first week. I was all set on getting the 101's but then had a sudden panic i'd be slipping and sliding all over the place when i go and skate a park, D.I.Y etc.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteThe conical fulls in 101a are the perfect combo imo. The regular 101's are a little slick at time, but the extra width helps with that a lot. I feel like the 99's in the conical shape would be a little too hard to slide.Expand QuoteHow slippy are the 101's? Can't decide between Conical fulls in 99d or 101d. Any help appreciated.[close][close]
i've had a set of 99 conical fulls since they came out and at first, yes they were a little difficult to get a nice slide out of them, but after a week or so they felt great.[close]
So feel you can slide on them pretty easily after that first week. I was all set on getting the 101's but then had a sudden panic i'd be slipping and sliding all over the place when i go and skate a park, D.I.Y etc.
Thank you everyone for help. Sorry to keep asking wustions on whats probably already a well disscussed topic but...currently riding the SML wide shape do either of the duros feel like that? Looking for something a little slicker that, only a little though. Like i said sorry for so many questions but being a broke student means that if i get something thats not right i have to suck it and deal with so i'd rather just buy the wheels that suit what i want in the first place.
These held up pretty well considering how fast and far a car dragged my board down the road.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y84/slapshakle/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2015-05-05-18-01-52_zpsxvjreqvp.png) (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/slapshakle/media/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2015-05-05-18-01-52_zpsxvjreqvp.png.html)
OHSNAP!
When the F4s hit with this shape?
Are those F4? ive seen them listed as just normal pro editions, and theres no mention of it onthe wheel
OHSNAP!
When the F4s hit with this shape?
They're not f4's.
I searched the pdf and so far they don't make any f4's in classic thin.
They're not f4's.
I searched the pdf and so far they don't make any f4's in classic thin.
@Xen how are the regular conicals compared to the full ones? planning to buy one
Expand Quote@Xen how are the regular conicals compared to the full ones? planning to buy one[close]
The Fulls are wiiiiide as hell, I felt them too wide. Conicals are a great size (if a bit too wide for me still).
I guess it would depends on what you are skating them on? I couldn't really see a need for the Fulls over the regular conicals honestly.
Expand QuoteExpand Quote@Xen how are the regular conicals compared to the full ones? planning to buy one[close]
The Fulls are wiiiiide as hell, I felt them too wide. Conicals are a great size (if a bit too wide for me still).
I guess it would depends on what you are skating them on? I couldn't really see a need for the Fulls over the regular conicals honestly.[close]
sickk thanks! i made up my mind now, i skate mostly street and some spot with icy floors so i figured i need some lil bit control ricta brandon westgates are okayyy but i feel like still a bit slidy but better than bones on icy surfaces.
F4's 5 months of usethird set ten months later same size shape etc, these held longer and didnt get as small
once 54mm classics 101 duro, now they're 40 something and tablets
never had a problem and still roll smooth
f4's rule
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Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quote@Xen how are the regular conicals compared to the full ones? planning to buy one[close]
The Fulls are wiiiiide as hell, I felt them too wide. Conicals are a great size (if a bit too wide for me still).
I guess it would depends on what you are skating them on? I couldn't really see a need for the Fulls over the regular conicals honestly.[close]
sickk thanks! i made up my mind now, i skate mostly street and some spot with icy floors so i figured i need some lil bit control ricta brandon westgates are okayyy but i feel like still a bit slidy but better than bones on icy surfaces.[close]
If you skate icy floors, the 99s are going to be your best bet (and rough streets). I'm riding the Ricta NRGs (Sandovals) and find them perfect, just a tad grippier than F4s but thinner.
Set up my new board tonight with 52mm conical fulls in the 101a duroYo HB fam welcome to Slap
These wheels are sick as hell. It's almost weird how easy it is to control the slide, different than anything i've ridden before.
darkstar
Expand Quotedarkstar[close]
I'll just leave this here for all you 'thin' wheel dudes..
(http://i.imgur.com/ZpGZFtf.png)
Expand QuoteI'll just leave this here for all you 'thin' wheel dudes..
(http://i.imgur.com/ZpGZFtf.png)[close]
Was able to look at these in a shop today, shape is sweet, much like the AB Nexus/Wreck Slim/Skinnier Bones V2. I'll bite once the F4s roll out!
I skate in rougher asphalt and stop with powerslides. I wanted to know if you recommend that I go with 99 or 101 duro wheels and what would be a better shape. I currently skate the 99 Classic shape.
Expand QuoteI skate in rougher asphalt and stop with powerslides. I wanted to know if you recommend that I go with 99 or 101 duro wheels and what would be a better shape. I currently skate the 99 Classic shape.[close]
I've only skated the 99a Conicals (to much grip for me), 99a Classics (perfect for park) and 101 Classics (slippery in some parks and a little rough on the street) but it seems like the 101 Conicals would be perfect for what you need. They'll be a little rough but if you powerslide alot, they will be hard to flat spot and will offer you a lot of control
99a will feel better travelling on rough asphalt, but not by much. Remember, we're only talking 2 levels of duro here 99, 100, 101 - the real difference is the grip, which I assume is more based around the formula than the duro as the 99s still slide great.
Radials are the hybrid shape, not so round as the classics and not so square as the conicals, it's as if they took the classic shape wore it down and rounded the lip.
Still wish they were thinner ;)
Some classic shape 99a's in 55mm need to happen. I'd ride the fuck out of those.
Some classic shape 99a's in 55mm need to happen. I'd ride the fuck out of those.
Expand QuoteSome classic shape 99a's in 55mm need to happen. I'd ride the fuck out of those.[close]
That's basically what these are, only .5mm bigger: http://socalskateshop.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=47569 (http://socalskateshop.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=47569)
Go bomb a hill and power slide a bunch and they are 55s.
I'm riding them right now. Nice wheels.
After a month of skating the 99A conical full, it's safe to say that, indeed, they are too sticky. Other than that, the wheel is perfect so next time I'll switch it up too 101 A classic full to see how they feel.
Expand QuoteAfter a month of skating the 99A conical full, it's safe to say that, indeed, they are too sticky. Other than that, the wheel is perfect so next time I'll switch it up too 101 A classic full to see how they feel.[close]
Depending on what size you ride, the difference between conical full and classic full is pretty negligible
http://spitfirewheels.com/formulafour/ (http://spitfirewheels.com/formulafour/)
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteAfter a month of skating the 99A conical full, it's safe to say that, indeed, they are too sticky. Other than that, the wheel is perfect so next time I'll switch it up too 101 A classic full to see how they feel.[close]
Depending on what size you ride, the difference between conical full and classic full is pretty negligible
http://spitfirewheels.com/formulafour/ (http://spitfirewheels.com/formulafour/)[close]
I ride 52s so that means classic full are even wider. I guess I have to try the conical 101a ?
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteAfter a month of skating the 99A conical full, it's safe to say that, indeed, they are too sticky. Other than that, the wheel is perfect so next time I'll switch it up too 101 A classic full to see how they feel.[close]
Depending on what size you ride, the difference between conical full and classic full is pretty negligible
http://spitfirewheels.com/formulafour/ (http://spitfirewheels.com/formulafour/)[close]
I ride 52s so that means classic full are even wider. I guess I have to try the conical 101a ?[close]
If .5 mm is going to fuck your ocd, yes, conicals in 101a ;) otherwise, the slide quality of the 101a vs the 99s is significant a wider 101a will slide better than a narrower 99a (within a few mm), at least that's what it felt like to me.
Is that 1/4p slick (doesn't look it)? I was doing alleyoop/cess slides with 101s in a bowl, 99a I struggled with them (doable but too much more effort).
What's bizarre is after riding V5 STFs, which I flatspotted, I find them a nice middle ground between the 99a and 101a spits and they are nearly identical to the spit classic shape.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteAfter a month of skating the 99A conical full, it's safe to say that, indeed, they are too sticky. Other than that, the wheel is perfect so next time I'll switch it up too 101 A classic full to see how they feel.[close]
Depending on what size you ride, the difference between conical full and classic full is pretty negligible
http://spitfirewheels.com/formulafour/ (http://spitfirewheels.com/formulafour/)[close]
I ride 52s so that means classic full are even wider. I guess I have to try the conical 101a ?[close]
If .5 mm is going to fuck your ocd, yes, conicals in 101a ;) otherwise, the slide quality of the 101a vs the 99s is significant a wider 101a will slide better than a narrower 99a (within a few mm), at least that's what it felt like to me.
Is that 1/4p slick (doesn't look it)? I was doing alleyoop/cess slides with 101s in a bowl, 99a I struggled with them (doable but too much more effort).
What's bizarre is after riding V5 STFs, which I flatspotted, I find them a nice middle ground between the 99a and 101a spits and they are nearly identical to the spit classic shape.[close]
I'm not OCD at all, I just like wider wheels mostly because I live in a city that has the shittiest ground so wide wheels offer a smoother ride.
The 1/4 feels like pretty much every other concrete park I've skated. I'm new in this city so it's the first set of wheels that I skate at that park so I really compare with other brands. That being said, I've been riding polar wheels (creative urethane) for the past 2 years, and doing reverts on concrete tranny we're easier than with the F4s.
Again, I'm just being hard on spitfire, the wheels are all around great and I would recommend them to anyone. But, if you're going to claim to have reinvented the wheel, I will be a tougher critic.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteAfter a month of skating the 99A conical full, it's safe to say that, indeed, they are too sticky. Other than that, the wheel is perfect so next time I'll switch it up too 101 A classic full to see how they feel.[close]
Depending on what size you ride, the difference between conical full and classic full is pretty negligible
http://spitfirewheels.com/formulafour/ (http://spitfirewheels.com/formulafour/)[close]
I ride 52s so that means classic full are even wider. I guess I have to try the conical 101a ?[close]
If .5 mm is going to fuck your ocd, yes, conicals in 101a ;) otherwise, the slide quality of the 101a vs the 99s is significant a wider 101a will slide better than a narrower 99a (within a few mm), at least that's what it felt like to me.
Is that 1/4p slick (doesn't look it)? I was doing alleyoop/cess slides with 101s in a bowl, 99a I struggled with them (doable but too much more effort).
What's bizarre is after riding V5 STFs, which I flatspotted, I find them a nice middle ground between the 99a and 101a spits and they are nearly identical to the spit classic shape.[close]
I'm not OCD at all, I just like wider wheels mostly because I live in a city that has the shittiest ground so wide wheels offer a smoother ride.
The 1/4 feels like pretty much every other concrete park I've skated. I'm new in this city so it's the first set of wheels that I skate at that park so I really compare with other brands. That being said, I've been riding polar wheels (creative urethane) for the past 2 years, and doing reverts on concrete tranny we're easier than with the F4s.
Again, I'm just being hard on spitfire, the wheels are all around great and I would recommend them to anyone. But, if you're going to claim to have reinvented the wheel, I will be a tougher critic.[close]
Do you like those wheels? I gave some to a friend of mine in his birthday and havent saw a wheel burn as fast as those. in 2 months they gone from 52 to 45 and are conning like hell. He's not any pro material and barelly does powerslides...
After a month of skating the 99A conical full, it's safe to say that, indeed, they are too sticky. Other than that, the wheel is perfect so next time I'll switch it up too 101 A classic full to see how they feel.I have 56mm 101a Conical Fulls, and they slide much better than the 52mm 99a classic shapes I had. The classic shape 101a is way to slippery for me, but the conical fulls in 101 are a perfect ratio of slide to grip. The only think I don't like about them is that because they're wider, I get wheelbite more easily.
are the recent Busenitz F4s just regular classics with his name on them? or are they special/shaped in some other way?
sub-question: do guys get money from wheels with their name on them?
The Donnelly wheels are a different shape, don't remember what it called but the riding surface is wider than the classics but less than the conical. They look pretty nice.
Lenny, how much longer on the slim radials?
hands down some of the worst wheels I've ever skated
slides for literally no reason
eliminates ability to make sharp turns
if the ground is wet your wheels turn into butter
miss a 50-50 on a ledge, i dare you
they feel like i have rocks attached to my board
hands down some of the worst wheels I've ever skated
slides for literally no reason
eliminates ability to make sharp turns
if the ground is wet your wheels turn into butter
miss a 50-50 on a ledge, i dare you
they feel like i have rocks attached to my board
Expand QuoteLenny, how much longer on the slim radials?[close]
They are literally just about to go into production!
I'd say maybe a week or two before they are available for shops/distros to purchase, and a week or two after that until they arrive at shops (depending on location obviously).
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteLenny, how much longer on the slim radials?[close]
They are literally just about to go into production!
I'd say maybe a week or two before they are available for shops/distros to purchase, and a week or two after that until they arrive at shops (depending on location obviously).[close]
Beyond hyped on this. I'll be picking up sets for both of my setups as soon as they come out. Great call on doing the Radials as a slim first. Definitely my favorite shape you guys have. They've always just been a little too wide for me
We have yet to see the profile in a photo. Hopefully they are narrower than classics.
Was hoping for the Daewon shape.
Been waiting for a slimmer F4 for a while now, can't wait. I'm a big fan of the V3 STFs, so if they're anything similar to that then it'll probably be all I ever buy from now on.ive been riding the 50mm v3 for about 10 sets. dying to try these out
has there been a formula one?
lol jokes aside i have a set of busenitz street burners pretty much unskated from like 6 years ago, those fucking sucked, spitfire stepped their game up for sure, still sticking with bones pretty much for the color, spits yellow out faster, better grip though.Quote from: TOAST-FACE KILLA link=topic=68020.msg2392930#msg2392930 date=1444974974Expand Quotehas there been a formula one?[close]
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=spitfire%20f1 (https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=spitfire%20f1)
Got an early set of radial slims.Expand QuoteWe have yet to see the profile in a photo. Hopefully they are narrower than classics.
Was hoping for the Daewon shape.[close]
yeah woulda been nice to see a side view of the wheels
Fashion over function, I feel you.lol jokes aside i have a set of busenitz street burners pretty much unskated from like 6 years ago, those fucking sucked, spitfire stepped their game up for sure, still sticking with bones pretty much for the color, spits yellow out faster, better grip though.Expand QuoteQuote from: TOAST-FACE KILLA link=topic=68020.msg2392930#msg2392930 date=1444974974Expand Quotehas there been a formula one?[close]
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=spitfire%20f1 (https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=spitfire%20f1)[close]
I actually prefer a more yellowed wheel beats your wheel looking like it came straight off a Toys R US completelol jokes aside i have a set of busenitz street burners pretty much unskated from like 6 years ago, those fucking sucked, spitfire stepped their game up for sure, still sticking with bones pretty much for the color, spits yellow out faster, better grip though.Expand QuoteExpand Quotehas there been a formula one?[close]
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=spitfire%20f1 (https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=spitfire%20f1)[close]
The riding surface looks wider than the classics.
lol jokes aside i have a set of busenitz street burners pretty much unskated from like 6 years ago, those fucking sucked, spitfire stepped their game up for sure, still sticking with bones pretty much for the color, spits yellow out faster, better grip though.Expand QuoteQuote from: TOAST-FACE KILLA link=topic=68020.msg2392930#msg2392930 date=1444974974Expand Quotehas there been a formula one?[close]
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=spitfire%20f1 (https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=spitfire%20f1)[close]
I'm sold.
Thanks for uploading the profile shots!
What the fuck is wreckChet Thomas' wheel company. The ruin formula puts spitfire to shame
Wreck>Bones>Autobahn>Spitfire
No 50 page bones thread, because they're good
Chet Thomas' wheel company. The ruin formula puts spitfire to shameExpand QuoteWhat the fuck is wreck[close]
(https://i.vimeocdn.com/video/491784302_295x166.jpg)
They haven't made wheels for a few years now, just pushed into being a pricepoint complete brand.Expand QuoteChet Thomas' wheel company. The ruin formula puts spitfire to shameExpand QuoteWhat the fuck is wreck[close]
(https://i.vimeocdn.com/video/491784302_295x166.jpg)[close]
wait so he runs two wheel companies? Or does Darkstar make only boards now.
Wreck sounds like the same formula used by darkstar but rebranded.They haven't made wheels for a few years now, just pushed into being a pricepoint complete brand.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteChet Thomas' wheel company. The ruin formula puts spitfire to shameExpand QuoteWhat the fuck is wreck[close]
(https://i.vimeocdn.com/video/491784302_295x166.jpg)[close]
wait so he runs two wheel companies? Or does Darkstar make only boards now.[close]
But Wreck wheels don't slideThey are stickier than bones, but bones are wayyyy too slick. If you need to rely on your wheels sliding you're going the wrong way
Got an early set of radial slims.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteWe have yet to see the profile in a photo. Hopefully they are narrower than classics.
Was hoping for the Daewon shape.[close]
yeah woulda been nice to see a side view of the wheels[close]
Side by side with classic cut f4
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/ttowndave/IMG_3255.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/ttowndave/IMG_3256.jpg)
Also should say the wheels in the pic are classic 54 and radial slims are a 52.
Just set them up so can't really get a better photo.
Also should say the wheels in the pic are classic 54 and radial slims are a 52.
I feel like the radial slim is more like a radial and the regular radial really is a radial full.
Meaning imo the wheel isn't really that slim, but since they dropped a wheel with the name radial already that they had to call it a slim when really it parallels more with the conical and the standard radial more with the conical full.
Might have to try these out after seeing Josh flat spot STFs haha He did the impossibleExpand QuoteI am officially interested.
I was a Spitfire supporter for a while, and wanted to keep supporting them super badly, but I just couldn't stand buying a set of wheels and having them flatspot and wear out in the blink of an eye. I've been on the STF bandwagon for a few years now. If these wheels are anywhere near as good as STFs, it will be what I am buying from now on.[close]
:DExpand QuoteMight have to try these out after seeing Josh flat spot STFs haha He did the impossibleExpand QuoteI am officially interested.
I was a Spitfire supporter for a while, and wanted to keep supporting them super badly, but I just couldn't stand buying a set of wheels and having them flatspot and wear out in the blink of an eye. I've been on the STF bandwagon for a few years now. If these wheels are anywhere near as good as STFs, it will be what I am buying from now on.[close][close]
i have flatspotted both f-4's and stfs on the first day of skating them. both incidents occured on extremely smooth concrete (the kind of stuff that is layed on warehouse floors), while i was going pretty slow and doing tricks on flat. i am very slim and i have also flatspotted a set of rictas on the same surface.
my opinion on these wheels (formula 4's) is that that they are by far the best wheels. their formula is bouncier than the stf (not softer but bouncier - which makes the wheels faster) and i think they also slide much more. the biggest advantage over the stfs is that the part of the wheel that hugs the bearing does not loosen up. with stfs i have noticed that after a month of use the ring that holds the bearing tight to the wheel loosens up and the wheels starts spinning around the bearing. this is unacceptable and to me its not the spitfires being good, rather its the stfs being terrible. if i skate stfs for a couple of months then i can take the bearings out of the wheels by just tipping the wheel and the bearing falls off! i really dont know why theres is all this hype with stfs. the reason i skate stfs is that they are the only decent wheel i can easily get hold of.
:DExpand QuoteExpand QuoteMight have to try these out after seeing Josh flat spot STFs haha He did the impossibleExpand QuoteI am officially interested.
I was a Spitfire supporter for a while, and wanted to keep supporting them super badly, but I just couldn't stand buying a set of wheels and having them flatspot and wear out in the blink of an eye. I've been on the STF bandwagon for a few years now. If these wheels are anywhere near as good as STFs, it will be what I am buying from now on.[close][close]
i have flatspotted both f-4's and stfs on the first day of skating them. both incidents occured on extremely smooth concrete (the kind of stuff that is layed on warehouse floors), while i was going pretty slow and doing tricks on flat. i am very slim and i have also flatspotted a set of rictas on the same surface.
my opinion on these wheels (formula 4's) is that that they are by far the best wheels. their formula is bouncier than the stf (not softer but bouncier - which makes the wheels faster) and i think they also slide much more. the biggest advantage over the stfs is that the part of the wheel that hugs the bearing does not loosen up. with stfs i have noticed that after a month of use the ring that holds the bearing tight to the wheel loosens up and the wheels starts spinning around the bearing. this is unacceptable and to me its not the spitfires being good, rather its the stfs being terrible. if i skate stfs for a couple of months then i can take the bearings out of the wheels by just tipping the wheel and the bearing falls off! i really dont know why theres is all this hype with stfs. the reason i skate stfs is that they are the only decent wheel i can easily get hold of.[close]
you must be jocking, I know tons of people that rides STFs or have riden STFs in the past during months and even more than a year for somes and I've never ever heard such a story.
That and your whole text looks like some advertisement for Spitfire, it's just ridiculous
This.Expand Quote:DExpand QuoteExpand QuoteMight have to try these out after seeing Josh flat spot STFs haha He did the impossibleExpand QuoteI am officially interested.
I was a Spitfire supporter for a while, and wanted to keep supporting them super badly, but I just couldn't stand buying a set of wheels and having them flatspot and wear out in the blink of an eye. I've been on the STF bandwagon for a few years now. If these wheels are anywhere near as good as STFs, it will be what I am buying from now on.[close][close]
i have flatspotted both f-4's and stfs on the first day of skating them. both incidents occured on extremely smooth concrete (the kind of stuff that is layed on warehouse floors), while i was going pretty slow and doing tricks on flat. i am very slim and i have also flatspotted a set of rictas on the same surface.
my opinion on these wheels (formula 4's) is that that they are by far the best wheels. their formula is bouncier than the stf (not softer but bouncier - which makes the wheels faster) and i think they also slide much more. the biggest advantage over the stfs is that the part of the wheel that hugs the bearing does not loosen up. with stfs i have noticed that after a month of use the ring that holds the bearing tight to the wheel loosens up and the wheels starts spinning around the bearing. this is unacceptable and to me its not the spitfires being good, rather its the stfs being terrible. if i skate stfs for a couple of months then i can take the bearings out of the wheels by just tipping the wheel and the bearing falls off! i really dont know why theres is all this hype with stfs. the reason i skate stfs is that they are the only decent wheel i can easily get hold of.[close]
you must be jocking, I know tons of people that rides STFs or have riden STFs in the past during months and even more than a year for somes and I've never ever heard such a story.
That and your whole text looks like some advertisement for Spitfire, it's just ridiculous[close]
This actually happened to me on several different sets of wheels during the years.
It usually happens when wheels are old and worn out, although it did happened to some lesser quality wheels that were not that old.
:DExpand QuoteExpand QuoteMight have to try these out after seeing Josh flat spot STFs haha He did the impossibleExpand QuoteI am officially interested.
I was a Spitfire supporter for a while, and wanted to keep supporting them super badly, but I just couldn't stand buying a set of wheels and having them flatspot and wear out in the blink of an eye. I've been on the STF bandwagon for a few years now. If these wheels are anywhere near as good as STFs, it will be what I am buying from now on.[close][close]
i have flatspotted both f-4's and stfs on the first day of skating them. both incidents occured on extremely smooth concrete (the kind of stuff that is layed on warehouse floors), while i was going pretty slow and doing tricks on flat. i am very slim and i have also flatspotted a set of rictas on the same surface.
my opinion on these wheels (formula 4's) is that that they are by far the best wheels. their formula is bouncier than the stf (not softer but bouncier - which makes the wheels faster) and i think they also slide much more. the biggest advantage over the stfs is that the part of the wheel that hugs the bearing does not loosen up. with stfs i have noticed that after a month of use the ring that holds the bearing tight to the wheel loosens up and the wheels starts spinning around the bearing. this is unacceptable and to me its not the spitfires being good, rather its the stfs being terrible. if i skate stfs for a couple of months then i can take the bearings out of the wheels by just tipping the wheel and the bearing falls off! i really dont know why theres is all this hype with stfs. the reason i skate stfs is that they are the only decent wheel i can easily get hold of.[close]
you must be jocking, I know tons of people that rides STFs or have riden STFs in the past during months and even more than a year for somes and I've never ever heard such a story.
That and your whole text looks like some advertisement for Spitfire, it's just ridiculous
i've experienced that with stf too, bearing falls of the wheel on one side of each wheel after a few months, but it's very hot where i live too...btw i had a new set with the bones customer thing, it's very cool from them cause i live very far away from the US, and for free !Expand Quote:DExpand QuoteExpand QuoteMight have to try these out after seeing Josh flat spot STFs haha He did the impossibleExpand QuoteI am officially interested.
I was a Spitfire supporter for a while, and wanted to keep supporting them super badly, but I just couldn't stand buying a set of wheels and having them flatspot and wear out in the blink of an eye. I've been on the STF bandwagon for a few years now. If these wheels are anywhere near as good as STFs, it will be what I am buying from now on.[close][close]
i have flatspotted both f-4's and stfs on the first day of skating them. both incidents occured on extremely smooth concrete (the kind of stuff that is layed on warehouse floors), while i was going pretty slow and doing tricks on flat. i am very slim and i have also flatspotted a set of rictas on the same surface.
my opinion on these wheels (formula 4's) is that that they are by far the best wheels. their formula is bouncier than the stf (not softer but bouncier - which makes the wheels faster) and i think they also slide much more. the biggest advantage over the stfs is that the part of the wheel that hugs the bearing does not loosen up. with stfs i have noticed that after a month of use the ring that holds the bearing tight to the wheel loosens up and the wheels starts spinning around the bearing. this is unacceptable and to me its not the spitfires being good, rather its the stfs being terrible. if i skate stfs for a couple of months then i can take the bearings out of the wheels by just tipping the wheel and the bearing falls off! i really dont know why theres is all this hype with stfs. the reason i skate stfs is that they are the only decent wheel i can easily get hold of.[close]
you must be jocking, I know tons of people that rides STFs or have riden STFs in the past during months and even more than a year for somes and I've never ever heard such a story.
That and your whole text looks like some advertisement for Spitfire, it's just ridiculous[close]
no man, sorry for my style of writing but im greek so im a bit bad at english. maybe what happened to me (and a couple of friends) was due to the extremely hot conditions that i normally skate in. this is the reason i have experimented with rictas, trying to see if the inner core would help. im not promoting spitfires and am actually skating a set of stfs right now. saying this, i have to admit that this new set i got (v 5's) has not slacked round the bearings yet (2 months in now) and i was expecting this as the wheels are actually wider (the kind of conical shape in a way supports the area that hugs the bearing). the issue i mentioned before was very prominent in slim shaped wheels (v 3's mainly). im not sure, maybe the sets were faulty or whatever but it did happen and not just once. spitfire are much better anyway but are not distributed in my area (greece is financially fucked at the moment)
Expand Quotehands down some of the worst wheels I've ever skated
slides for literally no reason
eliminates ability to make sharp turns
if the ground is wet your wheels turn into butter
miss a 50-50 on a ledge, i dare you
they feel like i have rocks attached to my board[close]
101's are slippery in a dusty park but great on the street. Also, you have to break wheels in before you can really judge them. They wont be as slippery after a few sessions
i've experienced that with stf too, bearing falls of the wheel on one side of each wheel after a few months, but it's very hot where i live too...btw i had a new set with the bones customer thing, it's very cool from them cause i live very far away from the US, and for free !Expand QuoteExpand Quote:DExpand QuoteExpand QuoteMight have to try these out after seeing Josh flat spot STFs haha He did the impossibleExpand QuoteI am officially interested.
I was a Spitfire supporter for a while, and wanted to keep supporting them super badly, but I just couldn't stand buying a set of wheels and having them flatspot and wear out in the blink of an eye. I've been on the STF bandwagon for a few years now. If these wheels are anywhere near as good as STFs, it will be what I am buying from now on.[close][close]
i have flatspotted both f-4's and stfs on the first day of skating them. both incidents occured on extremely smooth concrete (the kind of stuff that is layed on warehouse floors), while i was going pretty slow and doing tricks on flat. i am very slim and i have also flatspotted a set of rictas on the same surface.
my opinion on these wheels (formula 4's) is that that they are by far the best wheels. their formula is bouncier than the stf (not softer but bouncier - which makes the wheels faster) and i think they also slide much more. the biggest advantage over the stfs is that the part of the wheel that hugs the bearing does not loosen up. with stfs i have noticed that after a month of use the ring that holds the bearing tight to the wheel loosens up and the wheels starts spinning around the bearing. this is unacceptable and to me its not the spitfires being good, rather its the stfs being terrible. if i skate stfs for a couple of months then i can take the bearings out of the wheels by just tipping the wheel and the bearing falls off! i really dont know why theres is all this hype with stfs. the reason i skate stfs is that they are the only decent wheel i can easily get hold of.[close]
you must be jocking, I know tons of people that rides STFs or have riden STFs in the past during months and even more than a year for somes and I've never ever heard such a story.
That and your whole text looks like some advertisement for Spitfire, it's just ridiculous[close]
no man, sorry for my style of writing but im greek so im a bit bad at english. maybe what happened to me (and a couple of friends) was due to the extremely hot conditions that i normally skate in. this is the reason i have experimented with rictas, trying to see if the inner core would help. im not promoting spitfires and am actually skating a set of stfs right now. saying this, i have to admit that this new set i got (v 5's) has not slacked round the bearings yet (2 months in now) and i was expecting this as the wheels are actually wider (the kind of conical shape in a way supports the area that hugs the bearing). the issue i mentioned before was very prominent in slim shaped wheels (v 3's mainly). im not sure, maybe the sets were faulty or whatever but it did happen and not just once. spitfire are much better anyway but are not distributed in my area (greece is financially fucked at the moment)[close]
Was just gifted a pair of 52 mm radial fulls in 101A, someone got tired of seeing my old set that was down to under 40 mm, they started life as 56s and the east coast ruined them.ÂThat's rad. Coincidentally i just gifted an old set of F4s to a friend last night. He had a set of black classic spits that were worn down to what looked like 40mms. I told him there's no way he's riding around with those, and threw him an old set of F4 101a's I had lying around that were 54 but are more like 50's now.
Fuck yeah! sometimes it just takes a kick in the ass like being given free wheels to finally replace them.That's rad. Coincidentally i just gifted an old set of F4s to a friend last night. He had a set of black classic spits that were worn down to what looked like 40mms. I told him there's no way he's riding around with those, and threw him an old set of F4 101a's I had lying around that were 54 but are more like 50's now.Expand QuoteWas just gifted a pair of 52 mm radial fulls in 101A, someone got tired of seeing my old set that was down to under 40 mm, they started life as 56s and the east coast ruined them.�[close]
i've experienced that with stf too, bearing falls of the wheel on one side of each wheel after a few months, but it's very hot where i live too...btw i had a new set with the bones customer thing, it's very cool from them cause i live very far away from the US, and for free !Expand QuoteExpand Quote:DExpand QuoteExpand QuoteMight have to try these out after seeing Josh flat spot STFs haha He did the impossibleExpand QuoteI am officially interested.
I was a Spitfire supporter for a while, and wanted to keep supporting them super badly, but I just couldn't stand buying a set of wheels and having them flatspot and wear out in the blink of an eye. I've been on the STF bandwagon for a few years now. If these wheels are anywhere near as good as STFs, it will be what I am buying from now on.[close][close]
i have flatspotted both f-4's and stfs on the first day of skating them. both incidents occured on extremely smooth concrete (the kind of stuff that is layed on warehouse floors), while i was going pretty slow and doing tricks on flat. i am very slim and i have also flatspotted a set of rictas on the same surface.
my opinion on these wheels (formula 4's) is that that they are by far the best wheels. their formula is bouncier than the stf (not softer but bouncier - which makes the wheels faster) and i think they also slide much more. the biggest advantage over the stfs is that the part of the wheel that hugs the bearing does not loosen up. with stfs i have noticed that after a month of use the ring that holds the bearing tight to the wheel loosens up and the wheels starts spinning around the bearing. this is unacceptable and to me its not the spitfires being good, rather its the stfs being terrible. if i skate stfs for a couple of months then i can take the bearings out of the wheels by just tipping the wheel and the bearing falls off! i really dont know why theres is all this hype with stfs. the reason i skate stfs is that they are the only decent wheel i can easily get hold of.[close]
you must be jocking, I know tons of people that rides STFs or have riden STFs in the past during months and even more than a year for somes and I've never ever heard such a story.
That and your whole text looks like some advertisement for Spitfire, it's just ridiculous[close]
no man, sorry for my style of writing but im greek so im a bit bad at english. maybe what happened to me (and a couple of friends) was due to the extremely hot conditions that i normally skate in. this is the reason i have experimented with rictas, trying to see if the inner core would help. im not promoting spitfires and am actually skating a set of stfs right now. saying this, i have to admit that this new set i got (v 5's) has not slacked round the bearings yet (2 months in now) and i was expecting this as the wheels are actually wider (the kind of conical shape in a way supports the area that hugs the bearing). the issue i mentioned before was very prominent in slim shaped wheels (v 3's mainly). im not sure, maybe the sets were faulty or whatever but it did happen and not just once. spitfire are much better anyway but are not distributed in my area (greece is financially fucked at the moment)[close]
1-2mm difference and they are calling it a slim? Hasn't anyone over at DLX looked at an STV V3/AB Street slims/NRGs or <insert other obviously slim wheel>?
I flatspotted a set of STF V5s around a month ago doing noseslides, sent them in and was sent a replacement. Still haven't used them.
Flattspotted my Ricta NRG park crushers in a park doing a powerslide, haven't bothered to contact them.
I've ridden a few sets of F4s and haven't flatt'd a single one.
Expand Quote1-2mm difference and they are calling it a slim? Hasn't anyone over at DLX looked at an STV V3/AB Street slims/NRGs or <insert other obviously slim wheel>?
I flatspotted a set of STF V5s around a month ago doing noseslides, sent them in and was sent a replacement. Still haven't used them.
Flattspotted my Ricta NRG park crushers in a park doing a powerslide, haven't bothered to contact them.
I've ridden a few sets of F4s and haven't flatt'd a single one.[close]
The Radial-Slim is just a slimmer version of the Radial shape.
It's not supposed to be a new stand-alone 'slim' wheel.
Expand QuoteExpand Quote1-2mm difference and they are calling it a slim? Hasn't anyone over at DLX looked at an STV V3/AB Street slims/NRGs or <insert other obviously slim wheel>?
I flatspotted a set of STF V5s around a month ago doing noseslides, sent them in and was sent a replacement. Still haven't used them.
Flattspotted my Ricta NRG park crushers in a park doing a powerslide, haven't bothered to contact them.
I've ridden a few sets of F4s and haven't flatt'd a single one.[close]
The Radial-Slim is just a slimmer version of the Radial shape.
It's not supposed to be a new stand-alone 'slim' wheel.[close]
Yo, Lenny - that's what we all want though!
I need to ask everyone here a question because I'm about to give up on Spitfires for good which sucks because I've always ridden them and they're my favorite wheels...I'm regular and for some reason my back, toe side wheel always cones/gets worn down way faster than the other three. Has anyone else ever experienced this? Right now I'm riding the 53mm/99a "What, Me Spit?" and it happened so fast. I flipped it over and it coned again. I don't do a lot of powerslides, and admittedly the ground here is pretty rough (even the formula fours that I've had have worn out really quick!) I skate once or twice a week, usually for a few hours, and I feel that a set of wheels should last me a lot longer than Spitfires have been lately. I've had this set for a month and a half and the size difference in the one wheel is huge, not to mention all of the chunks and divots missing out of them from the rough ground...Try other brands and find what is more suitable for your skating.
Where can you buy the radial slims, are they not out yet?
can som1 tell me the difference between radials 101 54mm / classics full 101 53mm / classics 101 53mm cant decide thanks
these are the only 3 wheels in the shop that i like no sizes to choose
already got the luans conical 99 want to try a lil bit more slidey
Thanks. Figures they don't have 51's though.Expand QuoteWhere can you buy the radial slims, are they not out yet?[close]
they're out now http://socalskateshop.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=62403 (http://socalskateshop.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=62403)
Damn I just read 20 pages of that topic and I finally found what wheelies of the F4 im gonna get.
Someone posted that link to purchase cheap spits but I cant seem to find the Tablet... Someone ?
Edit: Are they like the Classic <<full>> or Conical <<full>>
http://socalskateshop.com/index.php?pg=2&l=product_list&c=1955&l=product_list&sortby=id:desc (http://socalskateshop.com/index.php?pg=2&l=product_list&c=1955&l=product_list&sortby=id:desc)
Thank you fam.
Anyways is there really a big difference between the sidecut and without ?
dude, don't lick boards, it's grossTry other brands and find what is more suitable for your skating.Expand QuoteI need to ask everyone here a question because I'm about to give up on Spitfires for good which sucks because I've always ridden them and they're my favorite wheels...I'm regular and for some reason my back, toe side wheel always cones/gets worn down way faster than the other three. Has anyone else ever experienced this? Right now I'm riding the 53mm/99a "What, Me Spit?" and it happened so fast. I flipped it over and it coned again. I don't do a lot of powerslides, and admittedly the ground here is pretty rough (even the formula fours that I've had have worn out really quick!) I skate once or twice a week, usually for a few hours, and I feel that a set of wheels should last me a lot longer than Spitfires have been lately. I've had this set for a month and a half and the size difference in the one wheel is huge, not to mention all of the chunks and divots missing out of them from the rough ground...[close]
Everybody has his own preferences or they way to ride a board, what suits for some doesn't necessarily suits for you.
Wheels are like shoes, trucks or board you don't need to follow everybody and use the same products as the others if it doesn't suits your needs.
Try different brands and eventually you'll find out that Spitfire are not the best for you, or on the contrary that they are the best for your skating.
I love Toy Machine, but never find a shape that I licked, suited my needs so I've never rode any toy machine board.
Everybody has his perversions. Don't judge me :'(dude, don't lick boards, it's grossExpand QuoteTry other brands and find what is more suitable for your skating.Expand QuoteI need to ask everyone here a question because I'm about to give up on Spitfires for good which sucks because I've always ridden them and they're my favorite wheels...I'm regular and for some reason my back, toe side wheel always cones/gets worn down way faster than the other three. Has anyone else ever experienced this? Right now I'm riding the 53mm/99a "What, Me Spit?" and it happened so fast. I flipped it over and it coned again. I don't do a lot of powerslides, and admittedly the ground here is pretty rough (even the formula fours that I've had have worn out really quick!) I skate once or twice a week, usually for a few hours, and I feel that a set of wheels should last me a lot longer than Spitfires have been lately. I've had this set for a month and a half and the size difference in the one wheel is huge, not to mention all of the chunks and divots missing out of them from the rough ground...[close]
Everybody has his own preferences or they way to ride a board, what suits for some doesn't necessarily suits for you.
Wheels are like shoes, trucks or board you don't need to follow everybody and use the same products as the others if it doesn't suits your needs.
Try different brands and eventually you'll find out that Spitfire are not the best for you, or on the contrary that they are the best for your skating.
I love Toy Machine, but never find a shape that I licked, suited my needs so I've never rode any toy machine board.[close]
Right guys straight up best all around , 101 or 99 classics?At my shop we sell the 99's 5 to 1 over the 101's.
The 99's are far superior to the 101's. Especially if you get a shape like the conical fulls, the wider surface just adds to the grippy nature of that urethane
Expand QuoteThe 99's are far superior to the 101's. Especially if you get a shape like the conical fulls, the wider surface just adds to the grippy nature of that urethane[close]
i am very surprised to see people wanting extra grip on their wheels. i always thought that skaters were after the harder wheels because these wheels are easy to revert after a failed 180 or 360 and kind of cheat and still land the trick. plus its easier to powerslide with harder wheels. they also sound much better than the dead sound the soft ones make. i always thought soft wheels are used in complete price-point set ups sold at jock shops. i really dont wanna sound funny here but in my whole life i have never seen anyone prefer soft wheels over hard ones. actually only seen this once with some swedish brand ("sweet skateboards"- now "sour solutions" or something) producing softer wheels to bear the freezing temperatures in their country. interesting find as i kept wondering how come all spitfire pro models are 99 duro. crazy. sorry for my poor english - i hope i make sense
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteThe 99's are far superior to the 101's. Especially if you get a shape like the conical fulls, the wider surface just adds to the grippy nature of that urethane[close]
i am very surprised to see people wanting extra grip on their wheels. i always thought that skaters were after the harder wheels because these wheels are easy to revert after a failed 180 or 360 and kind of cheat and still land the trick. plus its easier to powerslide with harder wheels. they also sound much better than the dead sound the soft ones make. i always thought soft wheels are used in complete price-point set ups sold at jock shops. i really dont wanna sound funny here but in my whole life i have never seen anyone prefer soft wheels over hard ones. actually only seen this once with some swedish brand ("sweet skateboards"- now "sour solutions" or something) producing softer wheels to bear the freezing temperatures in their country. interesting find as i kept wondering how come all spitfire pro models are 99 duro. crazy. sorry for my poor english - i hope i make sense[close]
99 isn't a pudding duro.
Got my first pair of formula 4s (53mm 99 duro conical shape) after years of skating stfs, ive skated these wheels 2 times and i dont ever see myself going back to bones.
Cool Thanks yo.
After a full day of lurking online I finally know which one im getting.
good timing after getting a complete stolen at the bar. fuuuu
I'm currently running some purple Ishod 53 classic 99's, basically because that was the biggest FF they had at my local. I skate bowls and transition 99 percent of the time, with some of the bowls around here going on 20 years old and unsealed, rough as. I've had them for about 9 months and they are now sub 50, but still feel awesome!
Like someone said earlier, it's not like they reinvented the wheel, but they are a pretty solid all rounder.
Has anyone skated the full conical f4? Thinking of switching up the shape but sticking with spits
Expand QuoteHas anyone skated the full conical f4? Thinking of switching up the shape but sticking with spits[close]
Been on my set over a year & love em, but some dudes have said they're outrageously wide. If that doesn't sound like your thing, try the standard conicals then if you're into it bump up to the conical full
same. i happen to love very fat wheels- i said fuck it and got the 58mms. wider riding surface makes me feel more stable, especially on bad terrain. but some people aren't into it.Expand QuoteHas anyone skated the full conical f4? Thinking of switching up the shape but sticking with spits[close]
Been on my set over a year & love em, but some dudes have said they're outrageously wide. If that doesn't sound like your thing, try the standard conicals then if you're into it bump up to the conical full
Has anyone skated the full conical f4? Thinking of switching up the shape but sticking with spitsI have the 101's and I love them. The classic shape 101 is really slippery (IMO) but the extra width makes up for it. By so far my favorite wheels I've ever had. You can slide them pretty easily, but I've ridden them in some slick indoor skateparks and they felt fine there too. The definition of happy medium for me.
I've had 3 sets, flatspotted one, and recently got a small piece knocked out small of piece from these. I agree they are the best wheels out. I have some welcome orbs on my set up now, i'm not liking them as much as my last 3 sets of F4's. I just ordered another set, but my fat ass wears these wheels down i guess.
Has anyone seen the radial slims in a 51...anywhere?
Expand QuoteHas anyone seen the radial slims in a 51...anywhere?[close]
The smallest we make them is 52mm, at the moment.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteHas anyone seen the radial slims in a 51...anywhere?[close]
The smallest we make them is 52mm, at the moment.[close]
Please make a 51mm. Thanks.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteHas anyone seen the radial slims in a 51...anywhere?[close]
The smallest we make them is 52mm, at the moment.[close]
Please make a 51mm. Thanks.[close]
I'll make sure that the request is noted :-*
I've had 3 sets, flatspotted one, and recently got a small piece knocked out small of piece from these. I agree they are the best wheels out. I have some welcome orbs on my set up now, i'm not liking them as much as my last 3 sets of F4's. I just ordered another set, but my fat ass wears these wheels down i guess.That has literally happened on all but one set of F4s I've ever had. In the exact same spot too, the outer corner area. I actually posted about it on slap somewhere years ago and Lenny or someone actually hit ME up offering replacements. Stand up customer service quality as usual. The replacement set I got was great, but ended up having the same thing happen to them eventually a little down the road. Then a set I bought after that had the same happen within the first week too. DLX said if I ever have problems again to contact them whenever to let them know, but I decided not to, I just didn't want to keep bothering them over something this small and feel like a hassle, plus the wheels still skated fine, the missing chunk doesn't effect the ride of the wheel at all. It has happened on just about every set of F4s I've had since then somewhere down the road though, but i generally don't pay too much mind to it unless its a huge chunk. I used to have gnarly gear OCD a couple years back, but have since learned to just stop caring as much. I used to freak out over stuff like this or over dirty griptape or little board chips, these days, not as much.
While lenny's around taking in requests,
That has literally happened on all but one set of F4s I've ever had. In the exact same spot too, the outer corner area. I actually posted about it on slap somewhere years ago and Lenny or someone actually hit ME up offering replacements. Stand up customer service quality as usual. The replacement set I got was great, but ended up having the same thing happen to them eventually a little down the road. Then a set I bought after that had the same happen within the first week too. DLX said if I ever have problems again to contact them whenever to let them know, but I decided not to, I just didn't want to keep bothering them over something this small and feel like a hassle, plus the wheels still skated fine, the missing chunk doesn't effect the ride of the wheel at all. It has happened on just about every set of F4s I've had since then somewhere down the road though, but i generally don't pay too much mind to it unless its a huge chunk. I used to have gnarly gear OCD a couple years back, but have since learned to just stop caring as much. I used to freak out over stuff like this or over dirty griptape or little board chips, these days, not as much.Expand QuoteI've had 3 sets, flatspotted one, and recently got a small piece knocked out small of piece from these. I agree they are the best wheels out. I have some welcome orbs on my set up now, i'm not liking them as much as my last 3 sets of F4's. I just ordered another set, but my fat ass wears these wheels down i guess.[close]
I had a pair of orange ones as well as a light blue set. I thought they were 54 mm, but they were probably 52-53 mm. I'm probably on my 15-20th set, but I skate a bunch of crusty shit. The only other wheels I had in between my F4s were a set of PFC. I've always been a Deluxe fan since I started skateboarding, so I hated having to buy Bones STF a couple years ago.Expand QuoteWhile lenny's around taking in requests,[close]
Colored F4s in bigger sizes. 54+....
I want a classic 54-56mm in orange.
Loved orange spits in the late 90s...
SLIM
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SLIM
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Anyone ever had one wheel wear down insanely fast? On every board i've ever rode the back heel one wears down the quickest, but on my current 52mm f4 classics, the front heel has worn down insanely fast. I feel like it has to be a defect.
Damn, I just bought some radial slims. What's the difference between the two? Are these Reynolds like a slim classic shape?
Expand QuoteAnyone ever had one wheel wear down insanely fast? On every board i've ever rode the back heel one wears down the quickest, but on my current 52mm f4 classics, the front heel has worn down insanely fast. I feel like it has to be a defect.[close]
goddamit. this is another one of those I refuse to believe this is a serious question questions.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteAnyone ever had one wheel wear down insanely fast? On every board i've ever rode the back heel one wears down the quickest, but on my current 52mm f4 classics, the front heel has worn down insanely fast. I feel like it has to be a defect.[close]
goddamit. this is another one of those I refuse to believe this is a serious question questions.[close]
I dont understand how this isnt a real question but okay. All i'm saying is, the rest are at like 51.5 with a thin contact patch and this guy has morphed into a blocky 48 after just a couple sessions with me doing the same exact shit as always. It seemed kinda yellow when i got it, so i put it on where my wheels typically wear down the least. Seems reasonable to assume it's a defect.
I feel dumb for asking, but what are the benefits to having a slim wheel?Easier slide and lighter weight
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteAnyone ever had one wheel wear down insanely fast? On every board i've ever rode the back heel one wears down the quickest, but on my current 52mm f4 classics, the front heel has worn down insanely fast. I feel like it has to be a defect.[close]
goddamit. this is another one of those I refuse to believe this is a serious question questions.[close]
I dont understand how this isnt a real question but okay. All i'm saying is, the rest are at like 51.5 with a thin contact patch and this guy has morphed into a blocky 48 after just a couple sessions with me doing the same exact shit as always. It seemed kinda yellow when i got it, so i put it on where my wheels typically wear down the least. Seems reasonable to assume it's a defect.[close]
No fuckin way that happened. Sorry, you are talking smack.
Hill bomb and powerslide the hills of san fran and this still isnt happening
goddamit. this is another one of those I refuse to believe this is a serious question questions.
Easier slide and lighter weightExpand QuoteI feel dumb for asking, but what are the benefits to having a slim wheel?[close]
rotate them shits dude, happens to every set of wheels i getExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteAnyone ever had one wheel wear down insanely fast? On every board i've ever rode the back heel one wears down the quickest, but on my current 52mm f4 classics, the front heel has worn down insanely fast. I feel like it has to be a defect.[close]
goddamit. this is another one of those I refuse to believe this is a serious question questions.[close]
I dont understand how this isnt a real question but okay. All i'm saying is, the rest are at like 51.5 with a thin contact patch and this guy has morphed into a blocky 48 after just a couple sessions with me doing the same exact shit as always. It seemed kinda yellow when i got it, so i put it on where my wheels typically wear down the least. Seems reasonable to assume it's a defect.[close]
No fuckin way that happened. Sorry, you are talking smack.
Hill bomb and powerslide the hills of san fran and this still isnt happening[close]
Yep you caught me, I have nothing better to do then lie about wheel sizes ::). This is my third pair of the same size and shape and i'm going to keep buying f4's because they're the shit but having this happen is forsure dissapointing.
couldn't resist and just purchased some green 101 radial slims. i've been too comfortable on the 99s... i'll probably die first blunt slide...What a noble death that would be.
53mm classic | 53mm classic thin | 53mm radial slims
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Anybody skate the Slims yet?
What a noble death that would be.Expand Quotecouldn't resist and just purchased some green 101 radial slims. i've been too comfortable on the 99s... i'll probably die first blunt slide...[close]
Expand QuoteWhat a noble death that would be.Expand Quotecouldn't resist and just purchased some green 101 radial slims. i've been too comfortable on the 99s... i'll probably die first blunt slide...[close][close]
feeling pressured to film this now... :-[
Expand QuoteWhat a noble death that would be.Expand Quotecouldn't resist and just purchased some green 101 radial slims. i've been too comfortable on the 99s... i'll probably die first blunt slide...[close][close]
feeling pressured to film this now... :-[
I was thinking the 101s might not slide as well as the 99s i had, but they do and are great. I'm glad i made the move up from 52 to 54. I've been sliding thorugh everything and sometimes leaving cool green marks lol.
(http://i.imgur.com/gm71Sa5.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/Jwu96Rs.jpg)
I don't think I've ridden on anything too rough that I can recall in recent memory.
Those are the ones I'm about to set up. How does the roll feel on rough streets compared to the 99s?
Picked up some radial slims and new bronsons and upon putting the spacers in one of the bearings will slide slightly out of the bearing seat. It's not enough to cause it to become loose but it's not flush (maybe like 1mm on 1 bearing) and I have been wondering if it'd be more beneficial to ditch the spacers or just use it like it is or even order some slimmer spacers?
had to scoop more 58mm conical fulls after my last set-up got jacked at a local school (stupid me for forgetting it. anybody else have weekend sessions with the homies hauling a bunch of shit around from spot to spot and lose stuff along the way?) best fucking wheels ever. nothing holds u back.
Expand QuotePicked up some radial slims and new bronsons and upon putting the spacers in one of the bearings will slide slightly out of the bearing seat. It's not enough to cause it to become loose but it's not flush (maybe like 1mm on 1 bearing) and I have been wondering if it'd be more beneficial to ditch the spacers or just use it like it is or even order some slimmer spacers?[close]
My opinion on bearing spacers is that they are completely unnecessary in most, if not all modern wheels.
They were created when wheels were much softer, and were designed to help keep the bearing (and bearing seat) aligned perpendicularly with the axel.
Since most wheels now are a much harder duro, or have harder cores below the softer urethane, I have not once found them to be beneficial in any modern skateboarding situation.
Has anyone skated the 54mm 99a conical fulls? I've been using the conical ones and now I want to try the wider ones. Is there really any major difference between the two riding surfaces?Just a little more surface area, so more stability, little less slide.
Expand QuoteExpand QuotePicked up some radial slims and new bronsons and upon putting the spacers in one of the bearings will slide slightly out of the bearing seat. It's not enough to cause it to become loose but it's not flush (maybe like 1mm on 1 bearing) and I have been wondering if it'd be more beneficial to ditch the spacers or just use it like it is or even order some slimmer spacers?[close]
My opinion on bearing spacers is that they are completely unnecessary in most, if not all modern wheels.
They were created when wheels were much softer, and were designed to help keep the bearing (and bearing seat) aligned perpendicularly with the axel.
Since most wheels now are a much harder duro, or have harder cores below the softer urethane, I have not once found them to be beneficial in any modern skateboarding situation.[close]
They're beneficial anytime your wheel has lateral movement - powerslides, landing sideways, reverts, etc.
It distributes the torsional load across a larger surface as opposed to directly on the inner race. That load is what leads to the bearing cage breaking which is the cause of most bearing blowouts
Expand QuotePicked up some radial slims and new bronsons and upon putting the spacers in one of the bearings will slide slightly out of the bearing seat. It's not enough to cause it to become loose but it's not flush (maybe like 1mm on 1 bearing) and I have been wondering if it'd be more beneficial to ditch the spacers or just use it like it is or even order some slimmer spacers?[close]
My opinion on bearing spacers is that they are completely unnecessary in most, if not all modern wheels.
They were created when wheels were much softer, and were designed to help keep the bearing (and bearing seat) aligned perpendicularly with the axel.
Since most wheels now are a much harder duro, or have harder cores below the softer urethane, I have not once found them to be beneficial in any modern skateboarding situation.
Since I have a hard time believing that my wheel core and the spacer are perfectly sized together, I don't use spacers.
Expand QuotePicked up some radial slims and new bronsons and upon putting the spacers in one of the bearings will slide slightly out of the bearing seat. It's not enough to cause it to become loose but it's not flush (maybe like 1mm on 1 bearing) and I have been wondering if it'd be more beneficial to ditch the spacers or just use it like it is or even order some slimmer spacers?[close]
My opinion on bearing spacers is that they are completely unnecessary in most, if not all modern wheels.
They were created when wheels were much softer, and were designed to help keep the bearing (and bearing seat) aligned perpendicularly with the axel.
Since most wheels now are a much harder duro, or have harder cores below the softer urethane, I have not once found them to be beneficial in any modern skateboarding situation.
Has anyone skated the 54mm 99a conical fulls? I've been using the conical ones and now I want to try the wider ones. Is there really any major difference between the two riding surfaces?
This is too much science for me to comprehend.
Expand QuoteThis is too much science for me to comprehend.[close]
unless you longboard, spacers are shit
yep the 1/8" onesExpand Quotehad to scoop more 58mm conical fulls after my last set-up got jacked at a local school (stupid me for forgetting it. anybody else have weekend sessions with the homies hauling a bunch of shit around from spot to spot and lose stuff along the way?) best fucking wheels ever. nothing holds u back.[close]
Gotta agree here. I picked up the 58's for a bowl setup but they're just an awesome wheel in general - wide and fast. They haul ass over any pavement. Do you use risers with yours out of curiosity?
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteThis is too much science for me to comprehend.[close]
unless you longboard, spacers are shit[close]
yeahhh, this is mostly longboarder-ish gearhead shit, but i stand by the 'reduced rattling' property.
that's all i'm after with them, really.
there is no way for any of us to quantify whether or not other claimed benefits are true - shear forces and whatnot...
but i can tell you, explicitly that my shit doesn't rattle when i have spacers in, and my nuts are tight.
+1 for the follow through.
+1 for the follow through.
put in a couple of sessions on the 101s. pretty stoked. not as teeth chattering hard as i thought on the streets and enough grip in the parks. way less sketchy than i imagined they'd be. i def prefer the 99s but the 101s are fast as fuck... filmed the blunt slide but it's so shit, i'm a bit embarrssed to post it... but maybe doing so will force me to get a proper one....
https://youtu.be/s55MThQWuiQ (https://youtu.be/s55MThQWuiQ)
Expand Quoteput in a couple of sessions on the 101s. pretty stoked. not as teeth chattering hard as i thought on the streets and enough grip in the parks. way less sketchy than i imagined they'd be. i def prefer the 99s but the 101s are fast as fuck... filmed the blunt slide but it's so shit, i'm a bit embarrssed to post it... but maybe doing so will force me to get a proper one....
https://youtu.be/s55MThQWuiQ (https://youtu.be/s55MThQWuiQ)[close]
Fuck yeah!
I found this by accident today while searching for some classic full 51mms. I've never seen it anywhere before. Didn't know all the different shapes that existed.
(http://1bg8b03af83bbht9q8v6urd0.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/SPI-SKW_CUTS4-800x598.jpg)
Expand Quote+1 for the follow through.[close]
They had a weird defect in the blue F4s, it was as if they poured them too small. They would split almost instantly:
(http://i.imgur.com/El17Qno.jpg)
Problem appears to be fixed now, I think it was just a bad batch.
But I've never seen a defect like this before .
Am I wrong to think they should just put the classic graphics on f4's? unquestionably the best wheel graphic ever
The thought of skating black wheels makes me feel kinda of disgusted/anxious... ???
Am I wrong to think they should just put the classic graphics on f4's? unquestionably the best wheel graphic everI think about this daily.
Am I wrong to think that no one should give a single fuck about wheel graphics? I mean for real, everyone put them in anyway, and no matter what way you but it it'll be gone in a day or two...I think about this daily.Expand QuoteAm I wrong to think they should just put the classic graphics on f4's? unquestionably the best wheel graphic ever[close]
I don't mind skating black wheels from time to time when I wanna switch it up a bit. They actually look pretty good on certain setups if it matches up just right. I don't really like skating any other colored wheel though, it's gotta be white or black.Expand QuoteThe thought of skating black wheels makes me feel kinda of disgusted/anxious... ???[close]
I skated black wheels only for a long time now I can't imagine it.
ive only ever considered orange wheels back in the Welcome to Hell Ed Templeton days... never did it though.
Maybe sell a few to make money ;)Expand Quoteive only ever considered orange wheels back in the Welcome to Hell Ed Templeton days... never did it though.[close]
Yes! Orange is a magical wheel colour. I often rode Orange spits during that era. I see there are a now some Orange Fs.... Only problem is, I've got all these to get through before I can justify buying some...
(http://i63.tinypic.com/awsux3.jpg)
I've got an F4 problem. Not shown are the Green Radial slim 54mm 101s and classic 58mm 99s that I have on my current set ups.
I was rotating my F4 101's today and noticed there were several spots where there were chunks missing from the wheel. Not super deep but it was clear it wasn't a flatspot, more like a puncture or gouge along the edges. Anyone ever experience this?
Expand Quoteive only ever considered orange wheels back in the Welcome to Hell Ed Templeton days... never did it though.[close]
Yes! Orange is a magical wheel colour. I often rode Orange spits during that era. I see there are a now some Orange Fs.... Only problem is, I've got all these to get through before I can justify buying some...
(http://i63.tinypic.com/awsux3.jpg)
I've got an F4 problem. Not shown are the Green Radial slim 54mm 101s and classic 58mm 99s that I have on my current set ups.
You're rightAm I wrong to think that no one should give a single fuck about wheel graphics? I mean for real, everyone put them in anyway, and no matter what way you but it it'll be gone in a day or two...Expand QuoteI think about this daily.Expand QuoteAm I wrong to think they should just put the classic graphics on f4's? unquestionably the best wheel graphic ever[close][close]
I was rotating my F4 101's today and noticed there were several spots where there were chunks missing from the wheel. Not super deep but it was clear it wasn't a flatspot, more like a puncture or gouge along the edges. Anyone ever experience this?Yeah, contact them and they will replace them
Expand QuoteExpand Quoteive only ever considered orange wheels back in the Welcome to Hell Ed Templeton days... never did it though.[close]
Yes! Orange is a magical wheel colour. I often rode Orange spits during that era. I see there are a now some Orange Fs.... Only problem is, I've got all these to get through before I can justify buying some...
(http://i63.tinypic.com/awsux3.jpg)
I've got an F4 problem. Not shown are the Green Radial slim 54mm 101s and classic 58mm 99s that I have on my current set ups.[close]
I will gladly help and take a set or two off your hands then, hah.
But seriously you'll be good to go for a while! That's enough to last you for like three years (or longer if you're the type to ride your wheels to dust; I only put three years because I assumed you maybe switch your wheels out every six months and you have six sets in waiting. With how i am with switching wheels thatd be enough to last me for the next five to six years haha)
You mentioned two sets not pictured that I thought were also in waiting but then I reread what you wrote and you said they were already currently on setups. Must've accidentally skipped that part when I skimmed through your post earlier, hah.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quoteive only ever considered orange wheels back in the Welcome to Hell Ed Templeton days... never did it though.[close]
Yes! Orange is a magical wheel colour. I often rode Orange spits during that era. I see there are a now some Orange Fs.... Only problem is, I've got all these to get through before I can justify buying some...
(http://i63.tinypic.com/awsux3.jpg)
I've got an F4 problem. Not shown are the Green Radial slim 54mm 101s and classic 58mm 99s that I have on my current set ups.[close]
I will gladly help and take a set or two off your hands then, hah.
But seriously you'll be good to go for a while! That's enough to last you for like three years (or longer if you're the type to ride your wheels to dust; I only put three years because I assumed you maybe switch your wheels out every six months and you have six sets in waiting. With how i am with switching wheels thatd be enough to last me for the next five to six years haha)[close]
just four sets in waiting. the ones i'm currently using are about done. i might go through 2 or 3 sets a year. sometimes ride them to dust but sometimes pass them on to a kid at the park.
I was rotating my F4 101's today and noticed there were several spots where there were chunks missing from the wheel. Not super deep but it was clear it wasn't a flatspot, more like a puncture or gouge along the edges. Anyone ever experience this?This happened to my Radial 99's also. What shape are your wheels?
This happened to my Radial 99's also. What shape are your wheels?Expand QuoteI was rotating my F4 101's today and noticed there were several spots where there were chunks missing from the wheel. Not super deep but it was clear it wasn't a flatspot, more like a puncture or gouge along the edges. Anyone ever experience this?[close]
Expand Quoteive only ever considered orange wheels back in the Welcome to Hell Ed Templeton days... never did it though.[close]
Yes! Orange is a magical wheel colour. I often rode Orange spits during that era. I see there are a now some Orange Fs.... Only problem is, I've got all these to get through before I can justify buying some...
(http://i63.tinypic.com/awsux3.jpg)
I've got an F4 problem. Not shown are the Green Radial slim 54mm 101s and classic 58mm 99s that I have on my current set ups.
Just about every set of F4s I've had has had the missing chunks problem. It was only a really bad missing chunk for one set, the rest were tiny to medium sized ones that didn't really effect the overall performance of the wheel at all so it didn't matter too much to me; more cosmetic damage than anything else. It seems like i see quite a bit of complaints about F4s chunking out, so im guessing it's a problem they're still trying to fix.
No local shop to try and trade em in?Expand QuoteYeah, I got my radial slims replaced that had a chunk ripped out of the edge. They sent me a set of classic slims at my request and I love them. Much slimmer shape. It's what I really wanted out of the radial slims.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-gBBUArYW56o/V35od51nSnI/AAAAAAAAIig/xyLpIw3aOEcKHjx0Xa2kYGGHjWr30BXdACCo/s600/12ea6e7c-fbcd-4979-9d89-ca78da05528e.jpg)[close]
Before these were released, I stocked up on radial slims. Now I have three sets of radial slims to skate, but all I want are the classic slims.
Are they going to make these in 101?
How long does it take to wear a few mm's off the wheels ? I really like the f4s, but i went with too big wheels and ate shit 3 times today because of wheel bites.Get some risers cos its gonna be a long wait
Is there a reason why they don't make 53mm 99A's in formula four? specifically in Fulls/Radials/Classic Pro's in Natty White?
thanks guys. didn't order the 99duros. i guess the 101s better fit my needs. gonna have to wait until i find them somewhere.
Expand QuoteIs there a reason why they don't make 53mm 99A's in formula four? specifically in Fulls/Radials/Classic Pro's in Natty White?[close]
uh
https://www.google.com/#q=53mm+formula+fours (https://www.google.com/#q=53mm+formula+fours)
They make 53mms in all of those.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteIs there a reason why they don't make 53mm 99A's in formula four? specifically in Fulls/Radials/Classic Pro's in Natty White?[close]
uh
https://www.google.com/#q=53mm+formula+fours (https://www.google.com/#q=53mm+formula+fours)
They make 53mms in all of those.[close]
I said 53mm F4 99's! majority of the ones they have on f4's are 101's on 53mm's...
Did spitfire change how wide the conical fulls are? I got a set of the 54mm 99a ones and they look the same as regular conicals. Everyone I've seen with conical fulls has way more riding surface.one you skate them for a couple months the taper will wear down and youll have a flat conical shape, could be that, its the true nature of the wheels pretty much, like how the classics are actually tablets
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteIs there a reason why they don't make 53mm 99A's in formula four? specifically in Fulls/Radials/Classic Pro's in Natty White?[close]
uh
https://www.google.com/#q=53mm+formula+fours (https://www.google.com/#q=53mm+formula+fours)
They make 53mms in all of those.[close]
I said 53mm F4 99's! majority of the ones they have on f4's are 101's on 53mm's...[close]
We definitiely make them!
They are our most popular size/formula, so they sell out fairly quick.
Socal shop has a decent selection right now: http://socalskateshop.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=67338 (http://socalskateshop.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=67338)
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteIs there a reason why they don't make 53mm 99A's in formula four? specifically in Fulls/Radials/Classic Pro's in Natty White?[close]
uh
https://www.google.com/#q=53mm+formula+fours (https://www.google.com/#q=53mm+formula+fours)
They make 53mms in all of those.[close]
I said 53mm F4 99's! majority of the ones they have on f4's are 101's on 53mm's...[close]
We definitiely make them!
They are our most popular size/formula, so they sell out fairly quick.
Socal shop has a decent selection right now: http://socalskateshop.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=67338 (http://socalskateshop.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=67338)[close]
Didn't mean to include Classic Pro's but mainly Radial's and Full's in both 99's...never ever seen one online or at a shop. usually the 53mm's are always the 101's in both those models.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteIs there a reason why they don't make 53mm 99A's in formula four? specifically in Fulls/Radials/Classic Pro's in Natty White?[close]
uh
https://www.google.com/#q=53mm+formula+fours (https://www.google.com/#q=53mm+formula+fours)
They make 53mms in all of those.[close]
I said 53mm F4 99's! majority of the ones they have on f4's are 101's on 53mm's...[close]
We definitiely make them!
They are our most popular size/formula, so they sell out fairly quick.
Socal shop has a decent selection right now: http://socalskateshop.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=67338 (http://socalskateshop.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=67338)[close]
Didn't mean to include Classic Pro's but mainly Radial's and Full's in both 99's...never ever seen one online or at a shop. usually the 53mm's are always the 101's in both those models.[close]
http://socalskateshop.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=64476 (http://socalskateshop.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=64476)
http://www.tactics.com/spitfire/formula-four-conical-full-skateboard-wheels (http://www.tactics.com/spitfire/formula-four-conical-full-skateboard-wheels)
i want to buy these spitfire formula 4 reynolds sweepers 99duro
(http://www.rollersnakes.co.uk/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/310x/0dc2d03fe217f8c83829496872af24a0/s/p/spitfire-formula-four-andrew-reynolds-street-sweeper-wheels-99duro-white-52mm-s256466-01.94.jpg)
how are these compared to bones stfs?
FUCK STF
FUCK BONES
FUCK ANY OTHER WHEEL COMPANY
Is there someone who's skating 101s on a really smooth park ? I want to try them as well, but i'm afraid that they might slide too much once autumn comes and the weather ain't dry anymore
I flatspotted my 101duros in like 4 months of skating :'(. Back to STF's for me sorry homiesONLY 4 months? ::)
I switched my F4 52 99s today for full 53 99s. Considering that my wheels where like year and a half old, and probably somewhere between 40 in the back and 45 in the front it was about time.
These monster truck wheels will require riser pads, but i can ride on anything now and slappies are way easier.
I skated the 101s today and i like them waaay more than the 99s. The slide is way better and they don't feel slippery at all.
I skated the 101s today and i like them waaay more than the 99s. The slide is way better and they don't feel slippery at all.
when i wheelbite at 50% of my old turning radius i definitely require riser pads. i have them on thunder hollow light 149s that I assume are HIs.Expand QuoteI switched my F4 52 99s today for full 53 99s. Considering that my wheels where like year and a half old, and probably somewhere between 40 in the back and 45 in the front it was about time.
These monster truck wheels will require riser pads, but i can ride on anything now and slappies are way easier.[close]
53mm definitely don't require riser pads, and they're absolutely not monster truck wheels haha.
when i wheelbite at 50% of my old turning radius i definitely require riser pads. i have them on thunder hollow light 149s that I assume are HIs.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI switched my F4 52 99s today for full 53 99s. Considering that my wheels where like year and a half old, and probably somewhere between 40 in the back and 45 in the front it was about time.
These monster truck wheels will require riser pads, but i can ride on anything now and slappies are way easier.[close]
53mm definitely don't require riser pads, and they're absolutely not monster truck wheels haha.[close]
53s are the biggest wheels I've had in probably 8 or something years.
fun fact: the cory kennedy F4 wheels (the alien ones with the free Frisbee) are skinnier than the reg classics.
Expand Quotefun fact:�  the cory kennedy F4 wheels (the alien ones with the free Frisbee) are skinnier than the reg classics.� Â[close]
Is the frisbee 101A or 99A though?
Expand Quotefun fact: the cory kennedy F4 wheels (the alien ones with the free Frisbee) are skinnier than the reg classics.[close]
Is the frisbee 101A or 99A though?
Expand Quotewhen i wheelbite at 50% of my old turning radius i definitely require riser pads. i have them on thunder hollow light 149s that I assume are HIs.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI switched my F4 52 99s today for full 53 99s. Considering that my wheels where like year and a half old, and probably somewhere between 40 in the back and 45 in the front it was about time.
These monster truck wheels will require riser pads, but i can ride on anything now and slappies are way easier.[close]
53mm definitely don't require riser pads, and they're absolutely not monster truck wheels haha.[close]
53s are the biggest wheels I've had in probably 8 or something years.[close]
Well that's why...you're riding Thunders. Their "Hi's" are lows. Especially the hollow ones with forged baseplates. Shit's not even 50mm tall and they call it a "Hi". Hi, I'm from planet earth where are you from, Thunder?
55mm+ are big wheels
50mm-54mm normal
<50mm small
fun fact: the cory kennedy F4 wheels (the alien ones with the free Frisbee) are skinnier than the reg classics.
haha, I just saw this today ... I skate 56's most of the time with thunders and no risers and I don't even consider them big. Once you get used to a 55/56 wheel it's hard to go back to a smaller one since you maintain a lot more speed without working for it and you don't have to "watch out for rocks and cracks" well as much anyway
Expand Quotehaha, I just saw this today ... I skate 56's most of the time with thunders and no risers and I don't even consider them big. Once you get used to a 55/56 wheel it's hard to go back to a smaller one since you maintain a lot more speed without working for it and you don't have to "watch out for rocks and cracks" well as much anyway[close]
Nice, I've gone bigger and smaller than 54mm, but I always go back to 54mm. It's the perfect size, in my opinion.
Expand QuoteExpand Quotehaha, I just saw this today ... I skate 56's most of the time with thunders and no risers and I don't even consider them big. Once you get used to a 55/56 wheel it's hard to go back to a smaller one since you maintain a lot more speed without working for it and you don't have to "watch out for rocks and cracks" well as much anyway[close]
Nice, I've gone bigger and smaller than 54mm, but I always go back to 54mm. It's the perfect size, in my opinion.[close]
For sure. I wanna try 55mm sometime, but that extra mm makes me nervous.
Bigger wheels lets you skate at a different tempo than smaller ones.
Generally, you'll see very few pure street skaters with anything bigger than 54-56 because ollies and such get sluggish at that point but for tranny you can get higher and faster with way less effort.
To keep speed on bowls with small wheels you need to pump the shit out of them. When I ride 58s or above it takes so much less effort but you may also feel like you have less "twitch" reaction ability.
Bigger wheels lets you skate at a different tempo than smaller ones.
Generally, you'll see very few pure street skaters with anything bigger than 54-56 because ollies and such get sluggish at that point but for tranny you can get higher and faster with way less effort.
To keep speed on bowls with small wheels you need to pump the shit out of them. When I ride 58s or above it takes so much less effort but you may also feel like you have less "twitch" reaction ability.
no more classic slims :o 8)Nobody rode those things anyway. Classics are already a pretty slim wheel, just seemed redundant.
http://spitfirewheels.com/formulafour/ (http://spitfirewheels.com/formulafour/)
I agree, I have seen more 99a Classics and Conicals but, yet to see the slims in actionNobody rode those things anyway. Classics are already a pretty slim wheel, just seemed redundant.Expand Quoteno more classic slims :o 8)
http://spitfirewheels.com/formulafour/ (http://spitfirewheels.com/formulafour/)[close]
Nobody rode those things anyway. Classics are already a pretty slim wheel, just seemed redundant.Expand Quoteno more classic slims :o 8)
http://spitfirewheels.com/formulafour/ (http://spitfirewheels.com/formulafour/)[close]
I agree, I have seen more 99a Classics and Conicals but, yet to see the slims in actionExpand QuoteNobody rode those things anyway. Classics are already a pretty slim wheel, just seemed redundant.Expand Quoteno more classic slims� :o 8)
http://spitfirewheels.com/formulafour/ (http://spitfirewheels.com/formulafour/)[close][close]
no more classic slims :o 8)
http://spitfirewheels.com/formulafour/ (http://spitfirewheels.com/formulafour/)
Bring back the tablet shape!!!!
I'm gonna be trading for some classic slims soon and your comments are giving me mixed feelings. I don't want them to feel too soft but I also was worried about slipping out. When you guys say soft, do they feel grippier or just slower? I'm trying to skate more street and less parks so that's why I wanted to give them a shot.
Anyone else cop the glow in the dark f4s or am I the only gimp who thought they were kinda cool
Anyone else cop the glow in the dark f4s or am I the only gimp who thought they were kinda cool
Hey lenny, very small percentage kinda question but any plans for a conical full colour in a 53mm? ;)
Expand QuoteAnyone else cop the glow in the dark f4s or am I the only gimp who thought they were kinda cool[close]
I've never seen a set of glow wheels actually glow...
Not only do I ride from spot to spot but I also ride my skateboard to and from the train to get to and from work. Because of this, even though I like I like super hard wheels, I got the 99s in the classic shape and 52mm.I like the 101's better than the 99's even for transportation. I may just be weird though.
Holy shit! First of all, these things felt hard enough for my liking, but not "rattle your teeth" hard. So far I was glad that I got the 99's.
Damn lol. Do you know how the 101s compare to STFs? Those things make my feet feel like they vibrating after I skate.I like the 101's better than the 99's even for transportation. I may just be weird though.Expand QuoteNot only do I ride from spot to spot but I also ride my skateboard to and from the train to get to and from work. Because of this, even though I like I like super hard wheels, I got the 99s in the classic shape and 52mm.
Holy shit! First of all, these things felt hard enough for my liking, but not "rattle your teeth" hard. So far I was glad that I got the 99's.[close]
Nah, I've only skated stf/spf's on friends boards at the park. So I have no experience on rough ground. I just feel like the 99's were slower than the 101's.Damn lol. Do you know how the 101s compare to STFs? Those things make my feet feel like they vibrating after I skate.Expand QuoteI like the 101's better than the 99's even for transportation. I may just be weird though.Expand QuoteNot only do I ride from spot to spot but I also ride my skateboard to and from the train to get to and from work. Because of this, even though I like I like super hard wheels, I got the 99s in the classic shape and 52mm.
Holy shit! First of all, these things felt hard enough for my liking, but not "rattle your teeth" hard. So far I was glad that I got the 99's.[close][close]
the harder the wheel the faster they are genearally. However I'll take a slightly slower wheel in order to have a slightly more comfortable wheel. I mean it's not like the 99s are exactly "soft".Nah, I've only skated stf/spf's on friends boards at the park. So I have no experience on rough ground. I just feel like the 99's were slower than the 101's.Expand QuoteDamn lol. Do you know how the 101s compare to STFs? Those things make my feet feel like they vibrating after I skate.Expand QuoteI like the 101's better than the 99's even for transportation. I may just be weird though.Expand QuoteNot only do I ride from spot to spot but I also ride my skateboard to and from the train to get to and from work. Because of this, even though I like I like super hard wheels, I got the 99s in the classic shape and 52mm.
Holy shit! First of all, these things felt hard enough for my liking, but not "rattle your teeth" hard. So far I was glad that I got the 99's.[close][close][close]
Ordered some 101 radial slim yesterday, can't wait to try them !I got the 99s and I dig em, not teeth-rattling hard like PFC but that makes them a little bit more versatile imo.
I'm on 101 classic now, and already tried 101 radial last year, but the ATV look was a bit too much for me.
the harder the wheel the faster they are genearally. However I'll take a slightly slower wheel in order to have a slightly more comfortable wheel. I mean it's not like the 99s are exactly "soft".Expand QuoteNah, I've only skated stf/spf's on friends boards at the park. So I have no experience on rough ground. I just feel like the 99's were slower than the 101's.Expand QuoteDamn lol. Do you know how the 101s compare to STFs? Those things make my feet feel like they vibrating after I skate.Expand QuoteI like the 101's better than the 99's even for transportation. I may just be weird though.Expand QuoteNot only do I ride from spot to spot but I also ride my skateboard to and from the train to get to and from work. Because of this, even though I like I like super hard wheels, I got the 99s in the classic shape and 52mm.
Holy shit! First of all, these things felt hard enough for my liking, but not "rattle your teeth" hard. So far I was glad that I got the 99's.[close][close][close][close]
i finally learned backside power slides because of these buggers.teach me your secrets!!!
teach me your secrets!!!Expand Quotei finally learned backside power slides because of these buggers.[close]
sweet! they always make sense in my head (probably because I've had frontside ones dialed since I was a child) but whenever I try to throw down I just turn 90 degrees and then stop. I know I need to push my legs out further than my body but somewhere along the line the message gets lost...Expand Quoteteach me your secrets!!!Expand Quotei finally learned backside power slides because of these buggers.[close][close]
-watch leo valls and julien stranger clips.
-purchase F4 radial slim 101s
-find a hill
-get toey
turning into it seemed to help. initiate a backside turn leaning deep into the hill and put a lot of your weight on your toes while you try and turn your body in the direction of the slide. i found if you give it too much you can still put your back hand down, recover nicely and save smashing your teeth in.
We just marked down the raven tershy 55mm 101s on our site, also still have some reynolds slim cuts available
http://www.35thave.com/shop/Skate/Wheels/Spitfire/p/Spitfire-Raven-Tershy-Formula-Four-Stomper-55mm-101a-classic-x16024463.htm (http://www.35thave.com/shop/Skate/Wheels/Spitfire/p/Spitfire-Raven-Tershy-Formula-Four-Stomper-55mm-101a-classic-x16024463.htm)
Maybe it's the graphic or size or both, but they just did not sell.Expand QuoteWe just marked down the raven tershy 55mm 101s on our site, also still have some reynolds slim cuts available
http://www.35thave.com/shop/Skate/Wheels/Spitfire/p/Spitfire-Raven-Tershy-Formula-Four-Stomper-55mm-101a-classic-x16024463.htm (http://www.35thave.com/shop/Skate/Wheels/Spitfire/p/Spitfire-Raven-Tershy-Formula-Four-Stomper-55mm-101a-classic-x16024463.htm)[close]
I've seen these same ones marked down on a couple other sites too. any reason for this?
I wanted to buy those Raven Tershy wheels but I couldn't find them in 53's anywhere. I think it was definitely a little of both the graphic and size as to why they didn't sell. I think the graphic is fucking awesome which generally means they're probably ugly to a lot of people. Most skaters probably think the graphic is too "jockish" as well.Maybe it's the graphic or size or both, but they just did not sell.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteWe just marked down the raven tershy 55mm 101s on our site, also still have some reynolds slim cuts available
http://www.35thave.com/shop/Skate/Wheels/Spitfire/p/Spitfire-Raven-Tershy-Formula-Four-Stomper-55mm-101a-classic-x16024463.htm (http://www.35thave.com/shop/Skate/Wheels/Spitfire/p/Spitfire-Raven-Tershy-Formula-Four-Stomper-55mm-101a-classic-x16024463.htm)[close]
I've seen these same ones marked down on a couple other sites too. any reason for this?[close]
At the time 55mm wasn't made in the formula four in any shape or durometer so i i ordered a decent amount. Just never sold through.
Strictly 99a through the winter.
Totally agree with this too, best winter wheel by far, st/spf's feel like you chucked bearings into a couple frozen hockey pucks one it gets coldExpand QuoteStrictly 99a through the winter.[close]
Tried my first set of radial slim yesterday, really loved the look !
They felt slippier, harder, and faster than classics.
Expand QuoteTried my first set of radial slim yesterday, really loved the look !
They felt slippier, harder, and faster than classics.[close]
ive seen a lot of PALS on here backing the radial slims - what was the biggest difference you liked? ive rode the F4 classic, classic wide, classic slim and conical full and overall i feel the classic is perfect
non-hesh skating
I dig mine too. Size is deceiving on them tho, 54s look like 51s cuz of how slim they areExpand QuoteTried my first set of radial slim yesterday, really loved the look !
They felt slippier, harder, and faster than classics.[close]
ive seen a lot of PALS on here backing the radial slims - what was the biggest difference you liked? ive rode the F4 classic, classic wide, classic slim and conical full and overall i feel the classic is perfect
Can someone post that diagram explaining the differences between wide and thin wheels? Just dug through half the thread to no avail.
I don't think I like the classic slims as much as I thought I would. Going to go back to radial slims and try them in 101.
I regard these wheels as the #1 for street skating. The tablet shape makes them last forever and the nice width allows to easily roll over cracks and shit.Agreed
I'm riding the 54mm conical full. Fuckin love 'em.
Radial slims is the way to go
Expand QuoteRadial slims is the way to go[close]
I'm on the radials now and they are a little too wide for me. I really like the shape, so I think I'll be on the slims next.
Snagged some forty niner F4's for the fun of itSteve, those things are fucking sick!
Here they are next to a 54
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/289/31463239053_bde54c0e3b_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/PWijNR)
This looks ridiculous and I love it
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/640/31909870160_2eaf0d1e5b_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/QBLqFb)
Expand QuoteThis looks ridiculous and I love it[close]
Ahh, nice. I saw the new street plants the other day and was eyeing that one. How's big wheelbase feel with the tiny wheels?
Anyone know which bearing spacers work well with F4s? I'm new to spacers but from everything I've read, it's ideal for the spacer to not be wider than the seat so that there are no gaps left on either side. Riding conical fulls on Thunders.There is not that much difference between spacers from different brands, i have always used bones ones. Do they sell spacers at their own, i've always got mine w/ set of bearings?
Expand Quotethe harder the wheel the faster they are genearally. However I'll take a slightly slower wheel in order to have a slightly more comfortable wheel. I mean it's not like the 99s are exactly "soft".Expand QuoteNah, I've only skated stf/spf's on friends boards at the park. So I have no experience on rough ground. I just feel like the 99's were slower than the 101's.Expand QuoteDamn lol. Do you know how the 101s compare to STFs? Those things make my feet feel like they vibrating after I skate.Expand QuoteI like the 101's better than the 99's even for transportation. I may just be weird though.Expand QuoteNot only do I ride from spot to spot but I also ride my skateboard to and from the train to get to and from work. Because of this, even though I like I like super hard wheels, I got the 99s in the classic shape and 52mm.
Holy shit! First of all, these things felt hard enough for my liking, but not "rattle your teeth" hard. So far I was glad that I got the 99's.[close][close][close][close][close]
it depends on the terrain. softer wheels are usually faster on fucked up terrain but not always.
Here's why I switched over to F4s from Bones. SPFs are fast as fuck in smooth parks but feel like dogshit on the street. STFs are amazing on the street- hard, fast with high rebound but a little slippery on tight round wall. F4 99as are my favorite all-round wheel- that suit all terrain. Maybe a tad slower than bones but I dig the slip-to-grip ratio far more and they have better shapes and sizes for my tastes. 101s are also pretty epic. i finally learned backside power slides because of these buggers. They slide easier than 99s but its not as secure of a feeling for me. I still ride them from time to time though and find them also more versatile than STF/ SPF.
I've flat-spotted both F4 duros and STFS/ SPFs but the F4s tend to work themselves out quicker- meaning they do wear out a bit quicker than bones also.
It comes down to this though- F4s just feel more like real fucking skateboarding wheels.
Honestly think small wheels on a huge board skates pretty great. I ride an 8.9 and my wheels are years old so they're super small and it definitely lightens the load on that thing.
NHS spacers are a different height compared to say, Bones spacers.
just wanted to pop in a re-iterate that
Spitfire Formula Fours are the greatest skateboard wheels ever made.
why do other wheel brands exist? what's the fucking point?
(http://thumbnail.image.rakuten.co.jp/@0_mall/heshdawgzsk8/cabinet/00696220/img63778020.jpg)
Wonder what's up with the classic and classic full dimensions but conical and conical full pics?
Expand Quotejust wanted to pop in a re-iterate that
Spitfire Formula Fours are the greatest skateboard wheels ever made.
why do other wheel brands exist? what's the fucking point?
(http://thumbnail.image.rakuten.co.jp/@0_mall/heshdawgzsk8/cabinet/00696220/img63778020.jpg)[close]
Wonder what's up with the classic and classic full dimensions but conical and conical full pics?
I was told they are discontinued.
Nooo. :(Expand QuoteI was told they are discontinued.[close]
Correct.
I've had a hard time finding white radial slims 101's anywhere online. Hoping these stick around in the catalog for awhile.
Hey Lenny, while you're skulking around the thread>
I've mashed up colored f4s with regular undyed ones 1:3 ratio kinda thing. Think Lance or Grosso vibes.
Question is, in DLXs eyes do the colored wheels wear any different than the undyed ones or am i sweet to just mix and match as i please?
First no more 99 Radials and now no more 99 Classic Fulls? Spitfire is really pushing those conicals.I've still seen a lot of 99 radials. Where did you hear this from?!
I've had a hard time finding white radial slims 101's anywhere online. Hoping these stick around in the catalog for awhile.http://www.tactics.com/spitfire/formula-four-radial-slims-skateboard-wheels/white-101d (http://www.tactics.com/spitfire/formula-four-radial-slims-skateboard-wheels/white-101d)
I've had a hard time finding white radial slims 101's anywhere online. Hoping these stick around in the catalog for awhile.
Expand QuoteI've had a hard time finding white radial slims 101's anywhere online. Hoping these stick around in the catalog for awhile.[close]
This.
As a STF V3 guy in Europe I was looking for radial slims in 101 to try them but they were nowhere to be found.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI've had a hard time finding white radial slims 101's anywhere online. Hoping these stick around in the catalog for awhile.[close]
This.
As a STF V3 guy in Europe I was looking for radial slims in 101 to try them but they were nowhere to be found.[close]
I think the radial slims are quite widely available. Maybe not in white that much, but the different color death adder versions seem to have been around for a while and available quite well IMO. Got a set of the green ones from some sale last summer. Planning to put them on this summer if my leg will allow me to skate.
Here's a few Finnish shops and one Polish shop that have the 101 ones in stock from a quick google search. I've ordered stuff from all of them and can recommend them all.
https://myfavoritethings.fi/fi/tuotteet/skeittaus/199562-spitfire-formula-four-101-radial-slims-52mm/ (https://myfavoritethings.fi/fi/tuotteet/skeittaus/199562-spitfire-formula-four-101-radial-slims-52mm/)
http://www.unionfive.fi/product/2063/spitfire-f4-radial-slims-death-green-54mm--renkaat-101du (http://www.unionfive.fi/product/2063/spitfire-f4-radial-slims-death-green-54mm--renkaat-101du)
http://www.unionfive.fi/product/2062/spitfire-f4-radial-slims-death-green-52mm--renkaat-101du (http://www.unionfive.fi/product/2062/spitfire-f4-radial-slims-death-green-52mm--renkaat-101du)
http://super-shop.com/en/i230929-spitfire-wheels-formula-four-radial-slim-night-black (http://super-shop.com/en/i230929-spitfire-wheels-formula-four-radial-slim-night-black)
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI've had a hard time finding white radial slims 101's anywhere online. Hoping these stick around in the catalog for awhile.[close]
This.
As a STF V3 guy in Europe I was looking for radial slims in 101 to try them but they were nowhere to be found.[close]
I think the radial slims are quite widely available. Maybe not in white that much, but the different color death adder versions seem to have been around for a while and available quite well IMO. Got a set of the green ones from some sale last summer. Planning to put them on this summer if my leg will allow me to skate.
Here's a few Finnish shops and one Polish shop that have the 101 ones in stock from a quick google search. I've ordered stuff from all of them and can recommend them all.
https://myfavoritethings.fi/fi/tuotteet/skeittaus/199562-spitfire-formula-four-101-radial-slims-52mm/ (https://myfavoritethings.fi/fi/tuotteet/skeittaus/199562-spitfire-formula-four-101-radial-slims-52mm/)
http://www.unionfive.fi/product/2063/spitfire-f4-radial-slims-death-green-54mm--renkaat-101du (http://www.unionfive.fi/product/2063/spitfire-f4-radial-slims-death-green-54mm--renkaat-101du)
http://www.unionfive.fi/product/2062/spitfire-f4-radial-slims-death-green-52mm--renkaat-101du (http://www.unionfive.fi/product/2062/spitfire-f4-radial-slims-death-green-52mm--renkaat-101du)
http://super-shop.com/en/i230929-spitfire-wheels-formula-four-radial-slim-night-black (http://super-shop.com/en/i230929-spitfire-wheels-formula-four-radial-slim-night-black)[close]
I can't do colored wheels but will check those links.
Thanks!
Expand QuoteI've had a hard time finding white radial slims 101's anywhere online. Hoping these stick around in the catalog for awhile.[close]
We have a ton in stock.. Ask your shop to order some! ;)
Expand QuoteI'm riding the 54mm conical full. Fuckin love 'em.[close]
Thats exactly my next size/shape, what duro are you using?
Anyone else on here unable to ever break away from skating 54mm 101a classic shape f4's? I've tried nearly everything else and nothing...nothing beats the size, shape, and slide.
I bought some Formula Fours 99 two years ago and really loved themThe different shapes can feel different, thinner ones feel more bumpy I think, wider is generally a smoother feeling ride
now that I have burned like 5mm off them I bought another set, Formula Fours 99 also, and I have to say these new wheels feel a lot harder than my old ones (mind you, both sets are 54mm)
the difference in hardness is very notable to me, so did the formula change or something? did anyone notice a difference between older/newer f4's?
First no more 99 Radials and now no more 99 Classic Fulls? Spitfire is really pushing those conicals.
First no more 99 Radials and now no more 99 Classic Fulls? Spitfire is really pushing those conicals.
Gonna grab a set of 52mm conical 99's for an all-purpose setup, I'm not gonna trawl through every page here but is the SFW just a wider shape and a different formula?Same shape, classic formula. I'm skating a set right now, no complaints.
Gonna grab a set of 52mm conical 99's for an all-purpose setup, I'm not gonna trawl through every page here but is the SFW just a wider shape and a different formula?
Expand QuoteGonna grab a set of 52mm conical 99's for an all-purpose setup, I'm not gonna trawl through every page here but is the SFW just a wider shape and a different formula?[close]
Conicals are slightly skinnier, conical fulls are identical
TABLETS!! Bring back the tablet, just because some asshole internet lurker bitched they chipped, we all have to suffer. Sucks.
Tablet 101's thats a mean fucking backside powerslide! GOAT of the wheels. Radial slims are the closest and I like them, but man those tablets....
classic or classic full? grabbing a set from art hellman, cant make up my mind lol. both 53mm. ive been on back to back sets of conical full 56mm (101 and 99 respectively) over teh last two years and want to switch to a smaller wheel. any reason to go with one over the other?
I wonder why they did seemingly only one run of classic slims... do I have to keep hoarding them or will you all make some more? Also please make them in 101a as well.
(http://shstore.eu/pol_pl_KOLKA-SPITFIRE-FORMULA-FOUR-99D-REYNOLDS-STREET-SWEEPERS-CLASSIC-SLIMS-54-MM-4881_1.jpg)
seems like everyone was hyped on these, only to try them out and not notice much of a difference from the regular classic shape... they have continued all the formula four shapes except the classic slim and tablet
Expand QuoteI wonder why they did seemingly only one run of classic slims... do I have to keep hoarding them or will you all make some more? Also please make them in 101a as well.
(http://shstore.eu/pol_pl_KOLKA-SPITFIRE-FORMULA-FOUR-99D-REYNOLDS-STREET-SWEEPERS-CLASSIC-SLIMS-54-MM-4881_1.jpg)[close]
seems like everyone was hyped on these, only to try them out and not notice much of a difference from the regular classic shape... they have continued all the formula four shapes except the classic slim and tablet
they seem to have a shape like some old Slimeballs or something. Looks like they may be cool but might want to see them in person first.
I really miss parkburners i kinda liked the feel of those better than formula 4s.
Is the 54 mm 99a full conical shape a good all terrain wheel? Good for whatever? Good grip but not too much? And good slide when needed on command? Been getting handed down wheels for years havent really tested the waters of wheels yet and just curious. Need a good wheel thats not gonna fail me and or get in the way.it's an ideal all terrain wheel imo
Is the 54 mm 99a full conical shape a good all terrain wheel? Good for whatever? Good grip but not too much? And good slide when needed on command? Been getting handed down wheels for years havent really tested the waters of wheels yet and just curious. Need a good wheel thats not gonna fail me and or get in the way.
Got a relatively new set of 101 f4's and flat spotted the shit out of them yesterday. I was skating a diy with garage styled concrete, slid out on a trick and now it sounds like I'm on a dirt bike. Anyone else had this issue on smoother ground?
Expand QuoteGot a relatively new set of 101 f4's and flat spotted the shit out of them yesterday. I was skating a diy with garage styled concrete, slid out on a trick and now it sounds like I'm on a dirt bike. Anyone else had this issue on smoother ground?[close]
First time I've ever heard f4s flatspotted
Got a relatively new set of 101 f4's and flat spotted the shit out of them yesterday. I was skating a diy with garage styled concrete, slid out on a trick and now it sounds like I'm on a dirt bike. Anyone else had this issue on smoother ground?
Got a relatively new set of 101 f4's and flat spotted the shit out of them yesterday. I was skating a diy with garage styled concrete, slid out on a trick and now it sounds like I'm on a dirt bike. Anyone else had this issue on smoother ground?
Got a relatively new set of 101 f4's and flat spotted the shit out of them yesterday. I was skating a diy with garage styled concrete, slid out on a trick and now it sounds like I'm on a dirt bike. Anyone else had this issue on smoother ground?
Expand QuoteGot a relatively new set of 101 f4's and flat spotted the shit out of them yesterday. I was skating a diy with garage styled concrete, slid out on a trick and now it sounds like I'm on a dirt bike. Anyone else had this issue on smoother ground?[close]
my man email deluxe and they will send you out a set. they are just gonna want you to send back the wheels to them
Gotta set of the Radial F4's 53mm. was skating the Radial Slims before, skated the regular radials for a few days but couldn't get used to them so went back to the old radial slims. dont think i can really get used to the wider wheels like the conicals, classic wide, radial etc. radial slims are the widest i can go.
Gotta set of the Radial F4's 53mm. was skating the Radial Slims before, skated the regular radials for a few days but couldn't get used to them so went back to the old radial slims. dont think i can really get used to the wider wheels like the conicals, classic wide, radial etc. radial slims are the widest i can go.
i'll buy them off ya if there in good conditionExpand QuoteGotta set of the Radial F4's 53mm. was skating the Radial Slims before, skated the regular radials for a few days but couldn't get used to them so went back to the old radial slims. dont think i can really get used to the wider wheels like the conicals, classic wide, radial etc. radial slims are the widest i can go.[close]
I seem to be the exact opposite. Got a set of radial slims now and I'm wondering why I ever bought them. Really hard getting used to them. I feel like I should have at least conicals if not conical fulls. Even with 149s on a 8.25" the radial slims look a bit too magic carpet for me. I'll give them a few more sessions and if I can't get used to them, I'll have to get rid of them and get something wider. Funny how this goes. :D
i'll buy them off ya if there in good conditionExpand QuoteExpand QuoteGotta set of the Radial F4's 53mm. was skating the Radial Slims before, skated the regular radials for a few days but couldn't get used to them so went back to the old radial slims. dont think i can really get used to the wider wheels like the conicals, classic wide, radial etc. radial slims are the widest i can go.[close]
I seem to be the exact opposite. Got a set of radial slims now and I'm wondering why I ever bought them. Really hard getting used to them. I feel like I should have at least conicals if not conical fulls. Even with 149s on a 8.25" the radial slims look a bit too magic carpet for me. I'll give them a few more sessions and if I can't get used to them, I'll have to get rid of them and get something wider. Funny how this goes. :D[close]
Do I want Lock Ins?This is Slap, we'll see that you bought them next week and expect to hear from you if they did or didn't work.
I know it's a gimmick, but do I want them?
Expand Quotei'll buy them off ya if there in good conditionExpand QuoteExpand QuoteGotta set of the Radial F4's 53mm. was skating the Radial Slims before, skated the regular radials for a few days but couldn't get used to them so went back to the old radial slims. dont think i can really get used to the wider wheels like the conicals, classic wide, radial etc. radial slims are the widest i can go.[close]
I seem to be the exact opposite. Got a set of radial slims now and I'm wondering why I ever bought them. Really hard getting used to them. I feel like I should have at least conicals if not conical fulls. Even with 149s on a 8.25" the radial slims look a bit too magic carpet for me. I'll give them a few more sessions and if I can't get used to them, I'll have to get rid of them and get something wider. Funny how this goes. :D[close][close]
They're hardly used, but I'm in Finland and I'm guessing you're not, so it probably won't be logistically feasible.
Expand QuoteExpand Quotei'll buy them off ya if there in good conditionExpand QuoteExpand QuoteGotta set of the Radial F4's 53mm. was skating the Radial Slims before, skated the regular radials for a few days but couldn't get used to them so went back to the old radial slims. dont think i can really get used to the wider wheels like the conicals, classic wide, radial etc. radial slims are the widest i can go.[close]
I seem to be the exact opposite. Got a set of radial slims now and I'm wondering why I ever bought them. Really hard getting used to them. I feel like I should have at least conicals if not conical fulls. Even with 149s on a 8.25" the radial slims look a bit too magic carpet for me. I'll give them a few more sessions and if I can't get used to them, I'll have to get rid of them and get something wider. Funny how this goes. :D[close][close]
They're hardly used, but I'm in Finland and I'm guessing you're not, so it probably won't be logistically feasible.[close]
Set up a new set of radial slims, 101/52mm (the ones with the cobra) and 2 sessions in I have the same problem that I had with my previous set of radial slims. The bearings keep sliding out of the pockets (after 2-3 tricks or a few turns of just riding) and the board feels slow and sluggish which is expected when the bearings are not placed properly. I just wonder if both sets were faulty as I never had this problem with any other set of spitfires (bones would do that but only when the bearing sockets would become slack, after a month or so). I know this can be cured/avoided by using spacers and I really don't wanna get into another "spacers are good" discussion. Anyway, just ordered two sets of classics 52mm and 50mm and can't wait for them to arrive.
What type of terrain do you skate? Because I live in Finland too and I rock only skinniest wheels I can find, last summer was those radial slims 52mm and now I'm skating bones stf's 52mm and I absolutely love skating skinny hard wheels.I skate mostly slappies and transition, lately been skating ledges more tho.It's like you not gonna be able to travel long distance with those wheels on shitty ground but going fast on those things feels like you're flying...and I love that sound what skinny hard wheels make when you powerslide shit out of them <3Expand QuoteGotta set of the Radial F4's 53mm. was skating the Radial Slims before, skated the regular radials for a few days but couldn't get used to them so went back to the old radial slims. dont think i can really get used to the wider wheels like the conicals, classic wide, radial etc. radial slims are the widest i can go.[close]
I seem to be the exact opposite. Got a set of radial slims now and I'm wondering why I ever bought them. Really hard getting used to them. I feel like I should have at least conicals if not conical fulls. Even with 149s on a 8.25" the radial slims look a bit too magic carpet for me. I'll give them a few more sessions and if I can't get used to them, I'll have to get rid of them and get something wider. Funny how this goes. :D
What type of terrain do you skate? Because I live in Finland too and I rock only skinniest wheels I can find, last summer was those radial slims 52mm and now I'm skating bones stf's 52mm and I absolutely love skating skinny hard wheels.I skate mostly slappies and transition, lately been skating ledges more tho.It's like you not gonna be able to travel long distance with those wheels on shitty ground but going fast on those things feels like you're flying...and I love that sound what skinny hard wheels make when you powerslide shit out of them <3Expand QuoteExpand QuoteGotta set of the Radial F4's 53mm. was skating the Radial Slims before, skated the regular radials for a few days but couldn't get used to them so went back to the old radial slims. dont think i can really get used to the wider wheels like the conicals, classic wide, radial etc. radial slims are the widest i can go.[close]
I seem to be the exact opposite. Got a set of radial slims now and I'm wondering why I ever bought them. Really hard getting used to them. I feel like I should have at least conicals if not conical fulls. Even with 149s on a 8.25" the radial slims look a bit too magic carpet for me. I'll give them a few more sessions and if I can't get used to them, I'll have to get rid of them and get something wider. Funny how this goes. :D[close]
I've switched from classic slims to the conical - seem just as fast, but I have way more control skating transition. Evan smith glow/blue 53mmThose look so nice. But I don't think I can go back to 99 after skating 101's
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Those look so nice. But I don't think I can go back to 99 after skating 101's
101a radial slims for life.
Lock ins ::) what are you going to do when they start to cone?Flip them and deal with having the graphics on the outside.
You mean the lock in flat side on the outside... That's what I was getting at.Flip them and deal with having the graphics on the outside.Expand QuoteLock ins ::) what are you going to do when they start to cone?[close]
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quotei'll buy them off ya if there in good conditionExpand QuoteExpand QuoteGotta set of the Radial F4's 53mm. was skating the Radial Slims before, skated the regular radials for a few days but couldn't get used to them so went back to the old radial slims. dont think i can really get used to the wider wheels like the conicals, classic wide, radial etc. radial slims are the widest i can go.[close]
I seem to be the exact opposite. Got a set of radial slims now and I'm wondering why I ever bought them. Really hard getting used to them. I feel like I should have at least conicals if not conical fulls. Even with 149s on a 8.25" the radial slims look a bit too magic carpet for me. I'll give them a few more sessions and if I can't get used to them, I'll have to get rid of them and get something wider. Funny how this goes. :D[close][close]
They're hardly used, but I'm in Finland and I'm guessing you're not, so it probably won't be logistically feasible.[close]
Set up a new set of radial slims, 101/52mm (the ones with the cobra) and 2 sessions in I have the same problem that I had with my previous set of radial slims. The bearings keep sliding out of the pockets (after 2-3 tricks or a few turns of just riding) and the board feels slow and sluggish which is expected when the bearings are not placed properly. I just wonder if both sets were faulty as I never had this problem with any other set of spitfires (bones would do that but only when the bearing sockets would become slack, after a month or so). I know this can be cured/avoided by using spacers and I really don't wanna get into another "spacers are good" discussion. Anyway, just ordered two sets of classics 52mm and 50mm and can't wait for them to arrive.[close]
:D I'm at the other end of that argument for sure but yeah, let's not get into it. I have spacers in my radial slims so I haven't had any such issues but the bearings do not sit deep at all in the radial slims. I think that might be causing them not to be seated very tight.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quotei'll buy them off ya if there in good conditionExpand QuoteExpand QuoteGotta set of the Radial F4's 53mm. was skating the Radial Slims before, skated the regular radials for a few days but couldn't get used to them so went back to the old radial slims. dont think i can really get used to the wider wheels like the conicals, classic wide, radial etc. radial slims are the widest i can go.[close]
I seem to be the exact opposite. Got a set of radial slims now and I'm wondering why I ever bought them. Really hard getting used to them. I feel like I should have at least conicals if not conical fulls. Even with 149s on a 8.25" the radial slims look a bit too magic carpet for me. I'll give them a few more sessions and if I can't get used to them, I'll have to get rid of them and get something wider. Funny how this goes. :D[close][close]
They're hardly used, but I'm in Finland and I'm guessing you're not, so it probably won't be logistically feasible.[close]
Set up a new set of radial slims, 101/52mm (the ones with the cobra) and 2 sessions in I have the same problem that I had with my previous set of radial slims. The bearings keep sliding out of the pockets (after 2-3 tricks or a few turns of just riding) and the board feels slow and sluggish which is expected when the bearings are not placed properly. I just wonder if both sets were faulty as I never had this problem with any other set of spitfires (bones would do that but only when the bearing sockets would become slack, after a month or so). I know this can be cured/avoided by using spacers and I really don't wanna get into another "spacers are good" discussion. Anyway, just ordered two sets of classics 52mm and 50mm and can't wait for them to arrive.[close]
:D I'm at the other end of that argument for sure but yeah, let's not get into it. I have spacers in my radial slims so I haven't had any such issues but the bearings do not sit deep at all in the radial slims. I think that might be causing them not to be seated very tight.[close]
felt like trying classics so i threw a old set on replacing my radial slims and holy shit - theres a world of a difference on how the bearings function in the classic shape (bearings go in deep) and the radial slims (bearings dont go in deep) - the classics allow the bearings to spin faster.. after trying the classic slim, classic wide, conical full, radial and radial slim.. the classic really works the best for me!
@ Esquivel -what Tangar said - theres no noticeable difference. heres a old photo
https://www.instagram.com/p/BHWpze4DX0l/?taken-by=imran927 (https://www.instagram.com/p/BHWpze4DX0l/?taken-by=imran927)
I guess I'm going against the grain here.The exact reason why I switched from those back to good ole stf v3's. Most of my friends skate F4's without any problems but for me they were little bit too unpredictable,especially on tight tranny.
I was on a set of radial slims 52mm 101a for about 6 months or so. Overall they were great. But recently I was skating this spot where I was landing sideways in a big crack / seam. I landed bolts like 10 times and kept getting pitched because I could not roll through this crack. Right then I decided I wanted a little wider wheel next time. Also, I found that I'd be going fast and just try to carve backside and I would start sliding. Although it's kind of fun to lose control and then regain it, that is not what I want from a wheel.
So this time around, I got some conicals. 52mm, 99a. So far, I'm loving them and think I've found the perfect wheel. It's only 1.5 mm wider than the slims, so it's still skinny enough. And they still slide great for powerslides or nose/tail slides. But I'm not just losing grip out of the blue like I was with the 101's.
The exact reason why I switched from those back to good ole stf v3's. Most of my friends skate F4's without any problems but for me they were little bit too unpredictable,especially on tight tranny.Expand QuoteI guess I'm going against the grain here.
I was on a set of radial slims 52mm 101a for about 6 months or so. Overall they were great. But recently I was skating this spot where I was landing sideways in a big crack / seam. I landed bolts like 10 times and kept getting pitched because I could not roll through this crack. Right then I decided I wanted a little wider wheel next time. Also, I found that I'd be going fast and just try to carve backside and I would start sliding. Although it's kind of fun to lose control and then regain it, that is not what I want from a wheel.
So this time around, I got some conicals. 52mm, 99a. So far, I'm loving them and think I've found the perfect wheel. It's only 1.5 mm wider than the slims, so it's still skinny enough. And they still slide great for powerslides or nose/tail slides. But I'm not just losing grip out of the blue like I was with the 101's.[close]
Quote from: Krooked antihero link=topic=68020.msg2682959#msg2682959 date=1504640093Expand QuoteThe exact reason why I switched from those back to good ole stf v3's. Most of my friends skate F4's without any problems but for me they were little bit too unpredictable,especially on tight tranny.Expand QuoteI guess I'm going against the grain here.
I was on a set of radial slims 52mm 101a for about 6 months or so. Overall they were great. But recently I was skating this spot where I was landing sideways in a big crack / seam. I landed bolts like 10 times and kept getting pitched because I could not roll through this crack. Right then I decided I wanted a little wider wheel next time. Also, I found that I'd be going fast and just try to carve backside and I would start sliding. Although it's kind of fun to lose control and then regain it, that is not what I want from a wheel.
So this time around, I got some conicals. 52mm, 99a. So far, I'm loving them and think I've found the perfect wheel. It's only 1.5 mm wider than the slims, so it's still skinny enough. And they still slide great for powerslides or nose/tail slides. But I'm not just losing grip out of the blue like I was with the 101's.[close][close]
I've been having this issue recently with Formula 4's as well. I got the new Lock Ins and they're really slippery. Had me reminiscing about Parkburners.
May just try to pick up some Classics and try to forget about all these formula's.
Are classics much different to f4's? I heard they flatspot way easier. F4's have never let me down so I'd be bummed if I spend 35 on classics and they suck when I could have got f4's for 40
I've been running radial slim 99s in the winter and 101s in the summer. I've decided I like the 101s more, so I bought some conical 101s for the winter. I'm thinking the little bit of extra width will be enough for slippery situations. Can anyone let me know how the conicals compare to the radial slims?
I've been running radial slim 99s in the winter and 101s in the summer. I've decided I like the 101s more, so I bought some conical 101s for the winter. I'm thinking the little bit of extra width will be enough for slippery situations. Can anyone let me know how the conicals compare to the radial slims?
Expand QuoteI've been running radial slim 99s in the winter and 101s in the summer. I've decided I like the 101s more, so I bought some conical 101s for the winter. I'm thinking the little bit of extra width will be enough for slippery situations. Can anyone let me know how the conicals compare to the radial slims?[close]
They should slide about the same as a bigger surface area (wider wheel) does not increase the coefficient of friction (grip).
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI've been running radial slim 99s in the winter and 101s in the summer. I've decided I like the 101s more, so I bought some conical 101s for the winter. I'm thinking the little bit of extra width will be enough for slippery situations. Can anyone let me know how the conicals compare to the radial slims?[close]
They should slide about the same as a bigger surface area (wider wheel) does not increase the coefficient of friction (grip).[close]
I agree with this but it has made me think what the ideal wheel width for powerslides would be. I have noticed that if I am using super skinny wheels I get some serious vibration because of the abrasion of the wheels paired with their narrow shape. The wider the wheels, the pitch of the vibration becomes finer and I get to slide smoother without much "brrrrrrr" but more of a "screeech" sound that I believe helps preserve speed and also puts less stress on my bearings. Any thoughts? What is SLAP's preferred wheel width for powerslides? For 52mm that I usually skate I definitely have to go radial slims>classics
The exact reason why I switched from those back to good ole stf v3's. Most of my friends skate F4's without any problems but for me they were little bit too unpredictable,especially on tight tranny.Expand QuoteI guess I'm going against the grain here.
I was on a set of radial slims 52mm 101a for about 6 months or so. Overall they were great. But recently I was skating this spot where I was landing sideways in a big crack / seam. I landed bolts like 10 times and kept getting pitched because I could not roll through this crack. Right then I decided I wanted a little wider wheel next time. Also, I found that I'd be going fast and just try to carve backside and I would start sliding. Although it's kind of fun to lose control and then regain it, that is not what I want from a wheel.
So this time around, I got some conicals. 52mm, 99a. So far, I'm loving them and think I've found the perfect wheel. It's only 1.5 mm wider than the slims, so it's still skinny enough. And they still slide great for powerslides or nose/tail slides. But I'm not just losing grip out of the blue like I was with the 101's.[close]
i drive myself crazy with wheel shapes all the time. I personally think the conical sidewalls are not as aesthetically pleasing as the classics, or even the radials...
anyways, the classics are already a pretty wide wheel to begin with and if you skate a set of em long enough, the riding surface gets to be just about as wide as a conical shape, and then you have the more attractive sidewalls.
i dunno. i'm still influenced heavily by whomever's part(s) i'm watching at the moment.[/b} if i'm watching more recent skate parts (or even AVE), I tend to want to throw on some conicals, but if im watching older stuff then I tend to want to throw on some classics.
Funny that spitfire just keeps reviving their older shapes in the formula four urethane (classic slims, lock ins).
Just tried the 53mm 101 lock ins last night. They slide really nicely. More controllable than conicals in my opinion.
Funny that spitfire just keeps reviving their older shapes in the formula four urethane (classic slims, lock ins).
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Expand QuoteJust tried the 53mm 101 lock ins last night. They slide really nicely. More controllable than conicals in my opinion.
Funny that spitfire just keeps reviving their older shapes in the formula four urethane (classic slims, lock ins).
(http://d2ydh70d4b5xgv.cloudfront.net/images/a/1/new-anthony-van-engelen-spitfire-99du-asymmetrical-lock-ins-skateboard-wheels-fd25426a6666de1aaf690ab463aec5cd.jpg)[close]
...patiently waiting for the return of the AWOL cut...it'll never happen, but one can dream...
Is there no longer a formula four in a classic full shape?
I know it's been discussed a little bit, but what's the deal with the F4 Lock Ins? I get that they're asymmetrical but I'm still not quite following the benefit.
Expand QuoteI know it's been discussed a little bit, but what's the deal with the F4 Lock Ins? I get that they're asymmetrical but I'm still not quite following the benefit.[close]
Conical on the outside. Completely straight cut on the inside to help you lock into ledges and round rails etc better, less chance of slipping out.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI know it's been discussed a little bit, but what's the deal with the F4 Lock Ins? I get that they're asymmetrical but I'm still not quite following the benefit.[close]
Conical on the outside. Completely straight cut on the inside to help you lock into ledges and round rails etc better, less chance of slipping out.[close]
Also a greater chance of hanging up on tranny
The asymmetrical is sick...except that you can't reverse them....,
Something else which is sick about straight cut is.....more truck.
I've noticed though conicals it feels like I don't primo as bad.....
The asymmetrical is sick...except that you can't reverse them....,
Yah....isn't what bones make mostly thin?
Expand QuoteI know it's been discussed a little bit, but what's the deal with the F4 Lock Ins? I get that they're asymmetrical but I'm still not quite following the benefit.[close]
Conical on the outside. Completely straight cut on the inside to help you lock into ledges and round rails etc better, less chance of slipping out.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI know it's been discussed a little bit, but what's the deal with the F4 Lock Ins? I get that they're asymmetrical but I'm still not quite following the benefit.[close]
Conical on the outside. Completely straight cut on the inside to help you lock into ledges and round rails etc better, less chance of slipping out.[close]
What's the benefit of the conical outside? Less weight? Why not just go tablet shape and have the straight cut on both sides?
Can those of you who like the 99s over the 101s or vice verse tell me why you do?
I just noticed that 99% of pro model Formula Fours are 99s (only ones I think of of the top of my head that aren’t are those old Silas’) and in this thread one guy who runs/owns/works at a shop said they sell they 99s over 101s five to one so I am wondering if I should switch to the 99s.
I’ve only ever had one set of 99s but that was almost a year ago and the deck got left with a crazy ex who moved and that was only about a week after I got them.
I like using 101s in parks and 99s on streetThis.
99s are already slippery enough and handle rougher ground a lot better than 101s.This. My 56 F4 99a's are amazing.
Got some of the lock ins for xmas -Please let us know how they look and feel overtime.
Just my opinion - They do help lock in, even more noticeably on transition - awesome wheel
Please let us know how they look and feel overtime.Expand QuoteGot some of the lock ins for xmas -
Just my opinion - They do help lock in, even more noticeably on transition - awesome wheel[close]
Expand QuotePlease let us know how they look and feel overtime.Expand QuoteGot some of the lock ins for xmas -
Just my opinion - They do help lock in, even more noticeably on transition - awesome wheel[close][close]
They hold up like any other formula four. They also don't cone that much so you don't have to worry about not being able to flip them over for a little bit. As far as helping you lock in, I definitely think it helps a little bit, especially if slipping out is an issue for you. Great wheels
Is there a big difference between the regular Radial vs Conical? (Not Slim or Full)
Anyone ridden both?
I guess I'm going against the grain here.
I was on a set of radial slims 52mm 101a for about 6 months or so. Overall they were great. But recently I was skating this spot where I was landing sideways in a big crack / seam. I landed bolts like 10 times and kept getting pitched because I could not roll through this crack. Right then I decided I wanted a little wider wheel next time. Also, I found that I'd be going fast and just try to carve backside and I would start sliding. Although it's kind of fun to lose control and then regain it, that is not what I want from a wheel.
So this time around, I got some conicals. 52mm, 99a. So far, I'm loving them and think I've found the perfect wheel. It's only 1.5 mm wider than the slims, so it's still skinny enough. And they still slide great for powerslides or nose/tail slides. But I'm not just losing grip out of the blue like I was with the 101's.
Expand QuoteI guess I'm going against the grain here.
I was on a set of radial slims 52mm 101a for about 6 months or so. Overall they were great. But recently I was skating this spot where I was landing sideways in a big crack / seam. I landed bolts like 10 times and kept getting pitched because I could not roll through this crack. Right then I decided I wanted a little wider wheel next time. Also, I found that I'd be going fast and just try to carve backside and I would start sliding. Although it's kind of fun to lose control and then regain it, that is not what I want from a wheel.
So this time around, I got some conicals. 52mm, 99a. So far, I'm loving them and think I've found the perfect wheel. It's only 1.5 mm wider than the slims, so it's still skinny enough. And they still slide great for powerslides or nose/tail slides. But I'm not just losing grip out of the blue like I was with the 101's.[close]
Quoting myself just to show how nothing is ever set in stone. Overall I liked the conicals. But had 1 main issue with them. For the entire 6 months I was skating them; I could not do a crooked grind. It was kind of strange. Slappy crooks still worked. But ollieing into one, I would always slip right out. Or not even get into it. I got myself another set of radial slims, 99A this time. And first day set up, I'm back to crooking no problem. Had them on about a month now and I'm loving them. Flip tricks seem more flippy with the thin lighter weight wheel. Slicing through cracks may be a bit more precarious, but it seems a small price to pay. Now, it seems like it might be an issue getting another set of them. My local only carries the conical & classic. And finding them online is looking like a bit of a challenge. I don't want colored wheels or 101a.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI guess I'm going against the grain here.
I was on a set of radial slims 52mm 101a for about 6 months or so. Overall they were great. But recently I was skating this spot where I was landing sideways in a big crack / seam. I landed bolts like 10 times and kept getting pitched because I could not roll through this crack. Right then I decided I wanted a little wider wheel next time. Also, I found that I'd be going fast and just try to carve backside and I would start sliding. Although it's kind of fun to lose control and then regain it, that is not what I want from a wheel.
So this time around, I got some conicals. 52mm, 99a. So far, I'm loving them and think I've found the perfect wheel. It's only 1.5 mm wider than the slims, so it's still skinny enough. And they still slide great for powerslides or nose/tail slides. But I'm not just losing grip out of the blue like I was with the 101's.[close]
Quoting myself just to show how nothing is ever set in stone. Overall I liked the conicals. But had 1 main issue with them. For the entire 6 months I was skating them; I could not do a crooked grind. It was kind of strange. Slappy crooks still worked. But ollieing into one, I would always slip right out. Or not even get into it. I got myself another set of radial slims, 99A this time. And first day set up, I'm back to crooking no problem. Had them on about a month now and I'm loving them. Flip tricks seem more flippy with the thin lighter weight wheel. Slicing through cracks may be a bit more precarious, but it seems a small price to pay. Now, it seems like it might be an issue getting another set of them. My local only carries the conical & classic. And finding them online is looking like a bit of a challenge. I don't want colored wheels or 101a.[close]
I would ask your local shop if they would be down to special order them for you. All my locals never have an issue doing so as long they already have an account with their distributor.
Need F4 in Big Heads.
Expand QuoteNeed F4 in Big Heads.[close]
Oooo those would be nice, a 99a f4 bighead
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteNeed F4 in Big Heads.[close]
Oooo those would be nice, a 99a f4 bighead[close]
I saw on Thiebauds instagram they're doing a classic graphic f4 with some shop, it looks really good. Maybe some of their more known wheels graphics are starting to shift over to the f4s
You know how fickle skateboarders are, I'm a long time spitfire guy and took me a little to get used to the different feel of the F4, they are better but feel different, some people don't like change.
IDK why they still make the original formula when the f4 is superior. i know a lot of the team still rides the regular 99 classic formula but i feel majority of the production should be focused on f4s
Which durometer F4 for skate parks, 99a or 101a?
Expand QuoteNeed F4 in Big Heads.[close]
Oooo those would be nice, a 99a f4 bighead
Which durometer F4 for skate parks, 99a or 101a?
Expand QuoteWhich durometer F4 for skate parks, 99a or 101a?[close]
It's all personal preference of course but I like 99s for outdoor parks in winter, indoor or slippery parks, 101s for pretty much everything else.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteNeed F4 in Big Heads.[close]
Oooo those would be nice, a 99a f4 bighead[close]
Those would've been the classic fulls. Same dimensions.
The parks here are concrete and smooth. When I was skating them back around 2013 I was using 99a SPF's IIRC.Expand QuoteWhich durometer F4 for skate parks, 99a or 101a?[close]
What kind of park? I prefer the 101s for the extra speed, and I get good enough grip with them. If your park is super slippery then it may make sense to go 99s, although I almost always choose speed over grip. 99s feel better on actual pavement.
Expand QuoteNeed F4 in Big Heads.[close]
Oooo those would be nice, a 99a f4 bighead
I'd be interested in trying 101s toe side and 99s heel side
Has anyone mixed up duros like that before?
I'd be interested in trying 101s toe side and 99s heel side
Has anyone mixed up duros like that before?
I'd be interested in trying 101s toe side and 99s heel sideI heard if you run 55's in the back and 50's in the front you ollie higher.
Has anyone mixed up duros like that before?
I heard if you run 55's in the back and 50's in the front you ollie higher.Expand QuoteI'd be interested in trying 101s toe side and 99s heel side
Has anyone mixed up duros like that before?[close]
Anybody else think the 99a F4's are a little too grippy? Haven't tried them at the park, but on asphalt and the concrete road in front of my house they barely slide at all. Might try out some 101a's.
Yeah, basically I want to slide for checking speed when going downhill. I'm running 56mm Conical Full's.Expand QuoteAnybody else think the 99a F4's are a little too grippy? Haven't tried them at the park, but on asphalt and the concrete road in front of my house they barely slide at all. Might try out some 101a's.[close]
What shape? I find them slightly on the grippy side if I'm doing blunts on ledges, but besides that, I think they're perfect (you can always wax the ledge, but you can't unwax the ground). 101s and similar wheels are too slippery when I'm bombing hills and want to slide to slow down, always feel like I'm at risk of slipping out. 99 is also more forgiving on rough ground too. I guess the only time I really want to slide on the ground is when I'm going fast down a hill, but if you want easier reverts out of 180/360 tricks on flat then 101s might make more sense.
Yeah, basically I want to slide for checking speed when going downhill. I'm running 56mm Conical Full's.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteAnybody else think the 99a F4's are a little too grippy? Haven't tried them at the park, but on asphalt and the concrete road in front of my house they barely slide at all. Might try out some 101a's.[close]
What shape? I find them slightly on the grippy side if I'm doing blunts on ledges, but besides that, I think they're perfect (you can always wax the ledge, but you can't unwax the ground). 101s and similar wheels are too slippery when I'm bombing hills and want to slide to slow down, always feel like I'm at risk of slipping out. 99 is also more forgiving on rough ground too. I guess the only time I really want to slide on the ground is when I'm going fast down a hill, but if you want easier reverts out of 180/360 tricks on flat then 101s might make more sense.[close]
Otherwise they feel great for everything else.
Expand QuoteYeah, basically I want to slide for checking speed when going downhill. I'm running 56mm Conical Full's.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteAnybody else think the 99a F4's are a little too grippy? Haven't tried them at the park, but on asphalt and the concrete road in front of my house they barely slide at all. Might try out some 101a's.[close]
What shape? I find them slightly on the grippy side if I'm doing blunts on ledges, but besides that, I think they're perfect (you can always wax the ledge, but you can't unwax the ground). 101s and similar wheels are too slippery when I'm bombing hills and want to slide to slow down, always feel like I'm at risk of slipping out. 99 is also more forgiving on rough ground too. I guess the only time I really want to slide on the ground is when I'm going fast down a hill, but if you want easier reverts out of 180/360 tricks on flat then 101s might make more sense.[close]
Otherwise they feel great for everything else.[close]
56 conical fulls would be very grippy. If you like that size/shape, 101s would be good. If you want to stick with 99s, a thinner shape would probably be easier to slide I'm guessing
Not so sure wheel width has nothing to do with grip. I would feel more confident taking a tight turn with wider wheels. I am running 52 mm 99a Radials and I find they slide more easily than I need them to. I am sure that the classics would provide even less traction at speed. Don’t SF hill bombers ride conical full? There has got to be a reason for this, yes?
Don’t SF hill bombers ride conical full? There has got to be a reason for this, yes?Not all of them, Frank's infamous switch hill bomb was done on what looked like classic shapes.
Wider wheels will make it a bit easier on shoddy terrain
Expand QuoteAnybody else think the 99a F4's are a little too grippy? Haven't tried them at the park, but on asphalt and the concrete road in front of my house they barely slide at all. Might try out some 101a's.[close]
What shape? I find them slightly on the grippy side if I'm doing blunts on ledges, but besides that, I think they're perfect (you can always wax the ledge, but you can't unwax the ground). 101s and similar wheels are too slippery when I'm bombing hills and want to slide to slow down, always feel like I'm at risk of slipping out. 99 is also more forgiving on rough ground too. I guess the only time I really want to slide on the ground is when I'm going fast down a hill, but if you want easier reverts out of 180/360 tricks on flat then 101s might make more sense.
TLDR: Although friction is unrelated to surface area in controlled environments with smooth surfaces, wider wheels with larger contact patches still generally have increased traction if you control for all other variables.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteAnybody else think the 99a F4's are a little too grippy? Haven't tried them at the park, but on asphalt and the concrete road in front of my house they barely slide at all. Might try out some 101a's.[close]
What shape? I find them slightly on the grippy side if I'm doing blunts on ledges, but besides that, I think they're perfect (you can always wax the ledge, but you can't unwax the ground). 101s and similar wheels are too slippery when I'm bombing hills and want to slide to slow down, always feel like I'm at risk of slipping out. 99 is also more forgiving on rough ground too. I guess the only time I really want to slide on the ground is when I'm going fast down a hill, but if you want easier reverts out of 180/360 tricks on flat then 101s might make more sense.[close]
but thats the best feeling
Yes, the classical formula for friction does not involve surface area: F = mu, where u is the coefficient of friction. However this simple model developed by Coloumb, while accurate for classroom experiments like in that youtube video, does not factor in all the variables involved in traction in the real world. So saying wheel width has no effect on grip, or more specifically traction, may often be inaccurate.
You're not considering load sensitivity, sidewall flexing, slip angles at speed amongst other factors. It's similar to why wider tires are preferred for increased traction (especially on acceleration) for bikes and cars and stuff. Rubber and urethane, despite being different compounds, are both elastic and display many of the similar properties.
TLDR: Although friction is unrelated to surface area in controlled environments with smooth surfaces, wider wheels with larger contact patches still generally have increased traction if you control for all other variables.
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TLDR: Although friction is unrelated to surface area in controlled environments with smooth surfaces, wider wheels with larger contact patches still generally have increased traction if you control for all other variables.[close]
Thank a non-specific deity, I was beginning to think I was on crazy pills.
Friction is not the same thing as breaking traction.
I will not believe that a narrower skateboard wheel will slide better until someone actually proves it. So far I haven't seen or experienced anything that supports that this would be the case. :)Remind me to never listen to this person again.
Expand QuoteYes, the classical formula for friction does not involve surface area: F = mu, where u is the coefficient of friction. However this simple model developed by Coloumb, while accurate for classroom experiments like in that youtube video, does not factor in all the variables involved in traction in the real world. So saying wheel width has no effect on grip, or more specifically traction, may often be inaccurate.
You're not considering load sensitivity, sidewall flexing, slip angles at speed amongst other factors. It's similar to why wider tires are preferred for increased traction (especially on acceleration) for bikes and cars and stuff. Rubber and urethane, despite being different compounds, are both elastic and display many of the similar properties.
TLDR: Although friction is unrelated to surface area in controlled environments with smooth surfaces, wider wheels with larger contact patches still generally have increased traction if you control for all other variables.[close]
What does load sensitivity or sidewall flexing have to do with skateboard wheels? Skateboard wheels are incredibly hard compared to car tires and the load on a skateboard is like 1/20th of the load on a car or less. And what do slip angles have to do with wheel width?Expand QuoteExpand Quote
TLDR: Although friction is unrelated to surface area in controlled environments with smooth surfaces, wider wheels with larger contact patches still generally have increased traction if you control for all other variables.[close]
Thank a non-specific deity, I was beginning to think I was on crazy pills.
Friction is not the same thing as breaking traction.[close]
When you "break traction" you move from static friction to kinetic friction. They are indeed different but it's all friction nonetheless.
I've had Formula Fours in Classic, Classic Full, Radial Slim & Conical Full shapes and I could not for the life of me tell any difference between them in how they slide. Sure there are other differences but I will not believe that a narrower skateboard wheel will slide better until someone actually proves it. So far I haven't seen or experienced anything that supports that this would be the case. :)
^ as far as i know all spits are made in the US
just got these - in love with swirled wheels
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bi6tS9clShq/?taken-by=imran927
That’s a 5 for sure. It really looks like a 3
damn they should just do the basic f4's with the classic swirl!
on another note been strictly riding f4's since 2013; classics, classic slim, classic wide, conical full, radial slim and radial - all 99 duro - cant beat the classics. and all other wheel production should just stop hahaha
they should just do the basic f4's with the classic swirl!
Expand Quotethey should just do the basic f4's with the classic swirl![close]
Expand Quotedamn they should just do the basic f4's with the classic swirl!
on another note been strictly riding f4's since 2013; classics, classic slim, classic wide, conical full, radial slim and radial - all 99 duro - cant beat the classics. and all other wheel production should just stop hahaha[close]
All right like dicaprio would say "sell me this f4 classic" why should I get classic instead of the other shapes?
Expand QuoteExpand Quotedamn they should just do the basic f4's with the classic swirl!
on another note been strictly riding f4's since 2013; classics, classic slim, classic wide, conical full, radial slim and radial - all 99 duro - cant beat the classics. and all other wheel production should just stop hahaha[close]
All right like dicaprio would say "sell me this f4 classic" why should I get classic instead of the other shapes?[close]
my thing is the classic shape is literally best all around as far as the surface space goes, the shape locks in really well onto ledges and coping and the bearing sits just right to make em spin fast compared to the radial slims/conicals
Expand QuoteExpand Quotethey should just do the basic f4's with the classic swirl![close][close]
they're coming
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quotedamn they should just do the basic f4's with the classic swirl!
on another note been strictly riding f4's since 2013; classics, classic slim, classic wide, conical full, radial slim and radial - all 99 duro - cant beat the classics. and all other wheel production should just stop hahaha[close]
All right like dicaprio would say "sell me this f4 classic" why should I get classic instead of the other shapes?[close]
my thing is the classic shape is literally best all around as far as the surface space goes, the shape locks in really well onto ledges and coping and the bearing sits just right to make em spin fast compared to the radial slims/conicals[close]
Really? I feel like the classic locks into ledges the worst as the edge isn't as straight cut. Feel safer doing 5050s pon round rails and long 5-0s on ledges with lock ins or conicals. Also for how wide the classic is at the widest point, the contact patch is quite thin if you're skating rough ground.
I’ve been skating the new updated formula of the classic non-F4 Spitfire’s and they may not have as much of a controllable and longer slide, but I think they’re a major improvement over how they used to be. They’ve worked perfectly fine at the park or bombing hills and I can powerslide without fear of sticking and dying. They require a tiny bit more effort to slide as opposed to the 101a F4’s which require basically no effort at all. If your local only has these classic classics in stock, give them a shot. They’re not bad at all.
Your reading comprehension is fucking pathetic xen.
Your reading comprehension is fucking pathetic xen.
I’ve been skating the new updated formula of the classicnon-F4 Spitfire’s and they may not have as much of a controllable and longer slide, but I think they’re a major improvement over how they used to be. They’ve worked perfectly fine at the park or bombing hills and I can powerslide without fear of sticking and dying. They require a tiny bit more effort to slide as opposed to the 101a F4’s which require basically no effort at all. If your local only has these classic classics in stock, give them a shot. They’re not bad at all.
Oh shit. This whole time I thought F1's were the same formula as the old classics..
Did they really update the classics or have we just been on the f4 tit so long we forgot how they skated? I never had a problem with classics, I’d still rather skate them than f4s, but my local only carries f4s...
I had a set of park burners, back then they were the only conical you could get under 60mm I think, they were Trujillo pros and had them for maybe a month before I changed over to manderson sfws when they came out. Felt sluggish and didn’t slide
Looking to get the lock in's anyone care to recommend them or give feedback? much appreciated.I have both the 99 and 101 in 53mm - I love em both, it inspired me to get back to grinding round rails, but like what was said above, they lock in when skating transition too, so keep that in mind.
Expand QuoteLooking to get the lock in's anyone care to recommend them or give feedback? much appreciated.[close]
I've had the 99A version in 55mm and currently have some 53's on my street setup. If you skate 54's I'd recommend the 53's as they're a wide wheel and the 55's felt a bit too big to me. They have a wide contact patch so if you've ridden conical fulls expect a similar feel on the streets and at the park and when flipping your board. The only difference is of course the inside edge of the wheel. I really like them when it comes to ledges, curbs and slappies because I like to hold the grind on as long as possible but didn't like them on transition so much. I like to be able to get on and off of the coping a bit easier and ended up hanging-up more often with the lock-ins so I went back to radials for my transition setup. I find myself rolling-over or slipping out of curbs and ledges a lot less so in my experience they actually do help, especially in cases when someone has put down way too much wax. I don't skate rails much anymore so I can't tell you how they fair on those. If you try them and hate them you can at least reverse them and have a conical edge on the inside which is what I did with my 55's. Hope that helps!
Spitfire wheels profile photo on instagram have the formula fours with the iconic classics swirl design. Hopefully this is a permanent change
Expand QuoteSpitfire wheels profile photo on instagram have the formula fours with the iconic classics swirl design. Hopefully this is a permanent change[close]
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bl6DXO5FOYf/?hl=en&taken-by=pat.polidor
^ Haha, I just thought the same thing. Wonder what took them so long.I guess it was because they had a collabo with shops and wanted to give them a few months of exclusivity
I’m sure he meant the five years F4s were around preceding the shop collab
Expand QuoteI’m sure he meant the five years F4s were around preceding the shop collab[close]
Exactly. I just wondered why it took them so long to make a formula 4 in the classic shape with the OG classic graphic.
Did they ever make the F4 Classic 101a in 60mm? Or was 58mm the biggest 101a you could get?
Last time I was at the shop they were out of F4 Classic 101a 58mm so I got the F4 Classic 99a 60mm.
marmalade on buttered rye.
Expand Quotemarmalade on buttered rye.[close]
That’s one hell of an analogy.
I keep trying to remember to use “a mouse pissing on a cotton ball” when I’m trying to describe something that is very quiet.
I'm shocked on how durable these f4s 99a conical are 54 to 52mm in 6 months, they grip way better but feel a little slower after sometime, but I wanna keep skating them till they die!Do you only skate parks and not powerslide at all? I go through 2-3 sets in 6 months.
https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Spitfire_Formula_4_Classic_101a_Wheels/descpage-SFCL1WH.html
I need new wheels and have been considering trying the lock-ins but am concerned they will mess with grind tricks where your board isn’t straight (smith, feeble, crook) can anyone who’s had a set offer some insight on that?
Expand QuoteI need new wheels and have been considering trying the lock-ins but am concerned they will mess with grind tricks where your board isn’t straight (smith, feeble, crook) can anyone who’s had a set offer some insight on that?[close]
I just got some 53mm,99duro LockIns earlier this week and had a decent lil sesh with em. They don’t mess with smiths & feebles at all on ledges or rails, but I’ve heard that they’re harder to pull out of coping or do lip tricks with
Have you ever seen anyone that has been skating more than 6 months have their wheels with the graphic side out?Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI need new wheels and have been considering trying the lock-ins but am concerned they will mess with grind tricks where your board isn’t straight (smith, feeble, crook) can anyone who’s had a set offer some insight on that?[close]
I just got some 53mm,99duro LockIns earlier this week and had a decent lil sesh with em. They don’t mess with smiths & feebles at all on ledges or rails, but I’ve heard that they’re harder to pull out of coping or do lip tricks with[close]
Ok so am I the only one that didn’t know they are supposed to be skated with the swirl facing in .
my conical fulls are graphics out because they started to cone every so slightly so i flipped them. next time i take them off to clean the bearings, im gonna scratch the rest of the graphics off cause it bugs me
What I was referring to is the lock-ins that they were designed to be graphics in .Have you ever seen anyone that has been skating more than 6 months have their wheels with the graphic side out?Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI need new wheels and have been considering trying the lock-ins but am concerned they will mess with grind tricks where your board isn’t straight (smith, feeble, crook) can anyone who’s had a set offer some insight on that?[close]
I just got some 53mm,99duro LockIns earlier this week and had a decent lil sesh with em. They don’t mess with smiths & feebles at all on ledges or rails, but I’ve heard that they’re harder to pull out of coping or do lip tricks with[close]
Ok so am I the only one that didn’t know they are supposed to be skated with the swirl facing in .[close]
What I was referring to is the lock-ins that they were designed to be graphics in .
I was @ the dlx warehouse recently @ Elad who works there told me they were designed to be graphics in . I don’t think your being a dick but someone did enough to knock me down a number but that’s fine .
Expand QuoteI was @ the dlx warehouse recently @ Elad who works there told me they were designed to be graphics in . I don’t think your being a dick but someone did enough to knock me down a number but that’s fine .[close]
i don't believe you
lock ins is such a stupid idea, if you want a flat sided wheel, buy radials, if you want a conical wheel, buy conicals... It's not like you're going to flip them around depending on what you skate.lock ins have way more of a square inside edge than radials
What did those of you that said "they really work!" mean? How exactly did they help you lock in better than radials or conicals would have?
Also, caring about how someone else has their wheel graphic is really fucking dumb...
In this case, putting your graphics in means putting the flat side of the wheel out which is different than the conical side. But yes, wheel graphics being a factor in your purchase is pretty silly.
Also, caring about how someone else has their wheel graphic is really fucking dumb...
lock ins have way more of a square inside edge than radialsExpand Quotelock ins is such a stupid idea, if you want a flat sided wheel, buy radials, if you want a conical wheel, buy conicals... It's not like you're going to flip them around depending on what you skate.
What did those of you that said "they really work!" mean? How exactly did they help you lock in better than radials or conicals would have?
Also, caring about how someone else has their wheel graphic is really fucking dumb...[close]
i've skated classics, classic slims, radial slims, conical fulls, and lock ins. believe it or not, they're all different
Also, caring about how someone else has their wheel graphic is really fucking dumb...
Expand QuoteAlso, caring about how someone else has their wheel graphic is really fucking dumb...[close]
We're skateboarders...these stupid rules are part of the culture ha ha ha....
lock ins have way more of a square inside edge than radialsExpand Quotelock ins is such a stupid idea, if you want a flat sided wheel, buy radials, if you want a conical wheel, buy conicals... It's not like you're going to flip them around depending on what you skate.
What did those of you that said "they really work!" mean? How exactly did they help you lock in better than radials or conicals would have?
Also, caring about how someone else has their wheel graphic is really fucking dumb...[close]
i've skated classics, classic slims, radial slims, conical fulls, and lock ins. believe it or not, they're all different
Expand QuoteAlso, caring about how someone else has their wheel graphic is really fucking dumb...[close]
We're skateboarders...these stupid rules are part of the culture ha ha ha....
The square edge really does lock into the coping or whatever you are grinding. Noticed it on round rails for sure.
Locked up on pivot fakies too.
The outward edge looks similar to the conical full.
I don't think it's A game changer, but they do help/work.
Lock ins still don't "really work" better than any tablet shaped wheel, asymmetrical wheels are a gimmick.
I saw a clip of Reynolds back tailsliding a ledge with brand new classic 99 f4a awhile back with the graphics out, is the boss a kook?
I still want to know how lock ins "really work" better than a radial or conical depending on which way you ride them too...
Edit: forgot the graphic part
Expand QuoteI saw a clip of Reynolds back tailsliding a ledge with brand new classic 99 f4a awhile back with the graphics out, is the boss a kook?
I still want to know how lock ins "really work" better than a radial or conical depending on which way you ride them too...
Edit: forgot the graphic part[close]
I've seen this in some of his set up videos as well. Does he get a pass?
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI saw a clip of Reynolds back tailsliding a ledge with brand new classic 99 f4a awhile back with the graphics out, is the boss a kook?
I still want to know how lock ins "really work" better than a radial or conical depending on which way you ride them too...
Edit: forgot the graphic part[close]
I've seen this in some of his set up videos as well. Does he get a pass?[close]
The guy did a set up video putting 139s on an 8.5 and no one really said anything lol.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI saw a clip of Reynolds back tailsliding a ledge with brand new classic 99 f4a awhile back with the graphics out, is the boss a kook?
I still want to know how lock ins "really work" better than a radial or conical depending on which way you ride them too...
Edit: forgot the graphic part[close]
I've seen this in some of his set up videos as well. Does he get a pass?[close]
The guy did a set up video putting 139s on an 8.5 and no one really said anything lol.[close]
No one said anything? If I had a penny everytime I heard someone mention that Reynolds rides 139's on an 8.5, I'd be in a penthouse in Monaco sniffin coke off Mischa Bartons left tit right now.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI saw a clip of Reynolds back tailsliding a ledge with brand new classic 99 f4a awhile back with the graphics out, is the boss a kook?
I still want to know how lock ins "really work" better than a radial or conical depending on which way you ride them too...
Edit: forgot the graphic part[close]
I've seen this in some of his set up videos as well. Does he get a pass?[close]
The guy did a set up video putting 139s on an 8.5 and no one really said anything lol.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI saw a clip of Reynolds back tailsliding a ledge with brand new classic 99 f4a awhile back with the graphics out, is the boss a kook?
I still want to know how lock ins "really work" better than a radial or conical depending on which way you ride them too...
Edit: forgot the graphic part[close]
I've seen this in some of his set up videos as well. Does he get a pass?[close]
The guy did a set up video putting 139s on an 8.5 and no one really said anything lol.[close]
Greco rides 8.5s on 129s
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI saw a clip of Reynolds back tailsliding a ledge with brand new classic 99 f4a awhile back with the graphics out, is the boss a kook?
I still want to know how lock ins "really work" better than a radial or conical depending on which way you ride them too...
Edit: forgot the graphic part[close]
I've seen this in some of his set up videos as well. Does he get a pass?[close]
The guy did a set up video putting 139s on an 8.5 and no one really said anything lol.[close]
Greco rides 8.5s on 129s
My spits have been getting shredded lol.Not really anything on the riding surface though... shouldn't affect anything
(http://i65.tinypic.com/14t4rnq.png)
Yeah it’s not affecting anything.Not really anything on the riding surface though... shouldn't affect anythingExpand QuoteMy spits have been getting shredded lol.
(http://i65.tinypic.com/14t4rnq.png)[close]
Has anybody had a problem with the bearing "slipping" off the seat a bit on F4 Radials in 99a? Regular Radials not slims.
I constantly have to pound the bearing back in place on one of the wheels. Other than that these wheels are my favorite. I just feel my board slower and know its time to pound the bearing in.
Just did that as I was posting that yesterday, but hopefully it works.Expand QuoteHas anybody had a problem with the bearing "slipping" off the seat a bit on F4 Radials in 99a? Regular Radials not slims.
I constantly have to pound the bearing back in place on one of the wheels. Other than that these wheels are my favorite. I just feel my board slower and know its time to pound the bearing in.[close]
I had that same problem, then I put some spacers in and 2 speed rings on the truck side instead of the other side. don't know if this'll work for you too though.
Just did that as I was posting that yesterday, but hopefully it works.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteHas anybody had a problem with the bearing "slipping" off the seat a bit on F4 Radials in 99a? Regular Radials not slims.
I constantly have to pound the bearing back in place on one of the wheels. Other than that these wheels are my favorite. I just feel my board slower and know its time to pound the bearing in.[close]
I had that same problem, then I put some spacers in and 2 speed rings on the truck side instead of the other side. don't know if this'll work for you too though.[close]
Expand QuoteJust did that as I was posting that yesterday, but hopefully it works.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteHas anybody had a problem with the bearing "slipping" off the seat a bit on F4 Radials in 99a? Regular Radials not slims.
I constantly have to pound the bearing back in place on one of the wheels. Other than that these wheels are my favorite. I just feel my board slower and know its time to pound the bearing in.[close]
I had that same problem, then I put some spacers in and 2 speed rings on the truck side instead of the other side. don't know if this'll work for you too though.[close][close]
Keep us updated mate. Maybe it helps If you clean the wheels and bearings
(http://i.imgur.com/MMpTmlx_d.jpg?maxwidth=380&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium)Anyone got dimensions for a tablet shape?
Anyone got dimensions for a tablet shape?Expand Quote(http://i.imgur.com/MMpTmlx_d.jpg?maxwidth=380&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium)[close]
Are they more squared like the first Bones V2 or Rictas? If so, gross.
Also, can anyone compare F4's to OJ's Elite formula? Been riding spits so long I don't know what anything else feels like.
if they are anything like insane-a-thanes then you should just keep skating spitsAnyone got dimensions for a tablet shape?Expand Quote(http://i.imgur.com/MMpTmlx_d.jpg?maxwidth=380&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium)[close]
Are they more squared like the first Bones V2 or Rictas? If so, gross.
Also, can anyone compare F4's to OJ's Elite formula? Been riding spits so long I don't know what anything else feels like.
(http://i.imgur.com/MMpTmlx_d.jpg?maxwidth=380&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium)
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FUCK YES
Color doesn't look like F4 at all. ???
Expand QuoteColor doesn't look like F4 at all. ???[close]
Probably just a filter on the photo - like b&w
I swear the last two sets of f4’s I’ve gotten have been noticably whiter than they used to be.I got a set from No-Comply(54mm) that was super yellow, and a set from Humidity(52mm) that was pretty white - same formula (4) and hardness (99a) and shape (classic.) (Maybe no-comply stores the wheels closer to the window?)
I got a set from No-Comply(54mm) that was super yellow, and a set from Humidity(52mm) that was pretty white - same formula (4) and hardness (99a) and shape (classic.) (Maybe no-comply stores the wheels closer to the window?)Expand QuoteI swear the last two sets of f4’s I’ve gotten have been noticably whiter than they used to be.[close]
The really weird thing is that the Humidity ones don't make that screech noise when you slide them and the No-Comply ones are extra screechy. I'm curious as to what exactly goes into that famous formula 4...
Expand QuoteI got a set from No-Comply(54mm) that was super yellow, and a set from Humidity(52mm) that was pretty white - same formula (4) and hardness (99a) and shape (classic.) (Maybe no-comply stores the wheels closer to the window?)Expand QuoteI swear the last two sets of f4’s I’ve gotten have been noticably whiter than they used to be.[close]
The really weird thing is that the Humidity ones don't make that screech noise when you slide them and the No-Comply ones are extra screechy. I'm curious as to what exactly goes into that famous formula 4...[close]
Do you have any clue to the age of each set of wheels? I've heard that wheels do tend to yellow and harden with time, though the packaging should provide some sort of protection from that I would think.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteColor doesn't look like F4 at all. ???[close]
Probably just a filter on the photo - like b&w[close]
My gut tells me that the old school "yellow" colour is added to the formula. They just don't bother adding it to samples.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteColor doesn't look like F4 at all. ???[close]
Probably just a filter on the photo - like b&w[close]
My gut tells me that the old school "yellow" colour is added to the formula. They just don't bother adding it to samples.[close]
Seems counter-intuitive to me. "Lets add a slight amount of yellow pigment to make our best selling wheels look old right out of the gate!" Nah, it's gotta be the natural color of the urethane formula they developed.
No joke, this was what I was thinking. Also, my last set of F4s was for sure more white than brown.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI got a set from No-Comply(54mm) that was super yellow, and a set from Humidity(52mm) that was pretty white - same formula (4) and hardness (99a) and shape (classic.) (Maybe no-comply stores the wheels closer to the window?)Expand QuoteI swear the last two sets of f4’s I’ve gotten have been noticably whiter than they used to be.[close]
The really weird thing is that the Humidity ones don't make that screech noise when you slide them and the No-Comply ones are extra screechy. I'm curious as to what exactly goes into that famous formula 4...[close]
Do you have any clue to the age of each set of wheels? I've heard that wheels do tend to yellow and harden with time, though the packaging should provide some sort of protection from that I would think.[close]
That’s a pretty good theory actually. I wonder if it’s the same kind of thing that happens with old Super Nintendos.
(http://nintendotoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/yellow-snes-plastic-640x480.jpg)
Of course, I could be way off since I really don’t know what the fuck I’m talking about.
Damn that US version of Super Nintendo looks funky😳 Quick look and I thought it was some view-master at first 😂No joke, this was what I was thinking. Also, my last set of F4s was for sure more white than brown.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI got a set from No-Comply(54mm) that was super yellow, and a set from Humidity(52mm) that was pretty white - same formula (4) and hardness (99a) and shape (classic.) (Maybe no-comply stores the wheels closer to the window?)Expand QuoteI swear the last two sets of f4’s I’ve gotten have been noticably whiter than they used to be.[close]
The really weird thing is that the Humidity ones don't make that screech noise when you slide them and the No-Comply ones are extra screechy. I'm curious as to what exactly goes into that famous formula 4...[close]
Do you have any clue to the age of each set of wheels? I've heard that wheels do tend to yellow and harden with time, though the packaging should provide some sort of protection from that I would think.[close]
That’s a pretty good theory actually. I wonder if it’s the same kind of thing that happens with old Super Nintendos.
(http://nintendotoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/yellow-snes-plastic-640x480.jpg)
Of course, I could be way off since I really don’t know what the fuck I’m talking about.[close]
that was the Japanese version with room ports for the disk drive no?Nah mine was just a regular european version, fucking weird that different regions had different desings back then... They even had different controllers for us & eu versions😳
OG NES was different too!
Nah mine was just a regular european version, fucking weird that different regions had different desings back then... They even had different controllers for us & eu versions😳Expand Quotethat was the Japanese version with room ports for the disk drive no?
OG NES was different too![close]
That is new mini version on that pic, OG was way bigger but design is still the same.Expand QuoteNah mine was just a regular european version, fucking weird that different regions had different desings back then... They even had different controllers for us & eu versions😳Expand Quotethat was the Japanese version with room ports for the disk drive no?
OG NES was different too![close][close]
Was it really that small? 🤔 I never had one but a friend of mine did, so I’ve played with one a bunch. I remember it not being much smaller than the NES.
I think it is a combination of sunlight and age. I know that both factors change the color - didn't think that it might also affect hardness.No joke, this was what I was thinking. Also, my last set of F4s was for sure more white than brown.Expand QuoteThat’s a pretty good theory actually. I wonder if it’s the same kind of thing that happens with old Super Nintendos.Expand QuoteDo you have any clue to the age of each set of wheels? I've heard that wheels do tend to yellow and harden with time, though the packaging should provide some sort of protection from that I would think.Expand QuoteI got a set from No-Comply(54mm) that was super yellow, and a set from Humidity(52mm) that was pretty white - same formula (4) and hardness (99a) and shape (classic.) (Maybe no-comply stores the wheels closer to the window?)Expand QuoteI swear the last two sets of f4’s I’ve gotten have been noticably whiter than they used to be.[close]
The really weird thing is that the Humidity ones don't make that screech noise when you slide them and the No-Comply ones are extra screechy. I'm curious as to what exactly goes into that famous formula 4...[close][close]
Of course, I could be way off since I really don’t know what the fuck I’m talking about.[close]
didn't think that it might also affect hardness.
Damn that US version of Super Nintendo looks funky😳 Quick look and I thought it was some view-master at first 😂Expand QuoteNo joke, this was what I was thinking. Also, my last set of F4s was for sure more white than brown.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI got a set from No-Comply(54mm) that was super yellow, and a set from Humidity(52mm) that was pretty white - same formula (4) and hardness (99a) and shape (classic.) (Maybe no-comply stores the wheels closer to the window?)Expand QuoteI swear the last two sets of f4’s I’ve gotten have been noticably whiter than they used to be.[close]
The really weird thing is that the Humidity ones don't make that screech noise when you slide them and the No-Comply ones are extra screechy. I'm curious as to what exactly goes into that famous formula 4...[close]
Do you have any clue to the age of each set of wheels? I've heard that wheels do tend to yellow and harden with time, though the packaging should provide some sort of protection from that I would think.[close]
That’s a pretty good theory actually. I wonder if it’s the same kind of thing that happens with old Super Nintendos.
(http://nintendotoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/yellow-snes-plastic-640x480.jpg)
Of course, I could be way off since I really don’t know what the fuck I’m talking about.[close][close]
e. This is what I had as a kid
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So a trick I do a lot is 5050 front board but I wonder if the lock ins would make that tough.
Like twould be so locked in, when I turn, the board wouldn't turn like I want?
Does anyone know if that would in face be the case If I got lock ins?
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The reason SNES turned brown like that is because of the bromine in the chemical mixture of the plastic for the case being too high on certain batches. Bromine in that usage is a flame retardant and is added to hot running plastic stuff to lower the chance that it could catch fire. I remembered there was a really specific reason why a lot of them turned brown but I had to look it up again for this post. Dork facts out.
All urethane is that brownish (natural) color. White pigment has to be added to the mix to make the wheel white.wow never knew that thanks
They offer their wheels in white or the natural brownish color (along with the swirls and other colors).
I thought this had been covered before.
haha i'll probably by a set of the tablets only to realized for the millionth time that the classics are the best shape for me
The classics are absolutely amazing. However, I find that I can slide better on radial slims.Expand Quotehaha i'll probably by a set of the tablets only to realized for the millionth time that the classics are the best shape for me[close]
there was never a truer statement
Expand Quotehaha i'll probably by a set of the tablets only to realized for the millionth time that the classics are the best shape for me[close]
there was never a truer statement
Im assuming that it helps them because its easier for them to slip out on a rounder edge so I guess a flatter one helps lock it in better? (example: lock ins)Expand QuoteExpand Quotehaha i'll probably by a set of the tablets only to realized for the millionth time that the classics are the best shape for me[close]
there was never a truer statement[close]
For some a less rounded edge more than likely helps their [mental] ledge/rail game?
Im assuming that it helps them because its easier for them to slip out on a rounder edge so I guess a flatter one helps lock it in better? (example: lock ins)Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quotehaha i'll probably by a set of the tablets only to realized for the millionth time that the classics are the best shape for me[close]
there was never a truer statement[close]
For some a less rounded edge more than likely helps their [mental] ledge/rail game?[close]
anyone know the width of the "OG classics" they're making now?We will soon
Ive been riding f4 radial slims for a while now but recently set up f1 mike Anderson wides and they feel so nice. Since they are kinda hard to find what would be the closest shape to those in f4?
Cheers.
Ive been riding f4 radial slims for a while now but recently set up f1 mike Anderson wides and they feel so nice. Since they are kinda hard to find what would be the closest shape to those in f4?Conical full maybe?
Cheers.
Conical full maybe?Expand QuoteIve been riding f4 radial slims for a while now but recently set up f1 mike Anderson wides and they feel so nice. Since they are kinda hard to find what would be the closest shape to those in f4?
Cheers.[close]
My radial slims just felt really slow for me even with good bearings.
Expand QuoteConical full maybe?Expand QuoteIve been riding f4 radial slims for a while now but recently set up f1 mike Anderson wides and they feel so nice. Since they are kinda hard to find what would be the closest shape to those in f4?
Cheers.[close]
My radial slims just felt really slow for me even with good bearings.[close]
Do explain, I was considering stopping on the way home at my local to grab some radial slims.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteConical full maybe?Expand QuoteIve been riding f4 radial slims for a while now but recently set up f1 mike Anderson wides and they feel so nice. Since they are kinda hard to find what would be the closest shape to those in f4?
Cheers.[close]
My radial slims just felt really slow for me even with good bearings.[close]
Do explain, I was considering stopping on the way home at my local to grab some radial slims.[close]
Probably has to do with surface area. With conical fulls, the more surface area or wheels on the ground, the faster you go. Slims not as much.
Well they were 99s and colored; I feel like colored wheels tend to feel a little slower and a little softer.Expand QuoteConical full maybe?Expand QuoteIve been riding f4 radial slims for a while now but recently set up f1 mike Anderson wides and they feel so nice. Since they are kinda hard to find what would be the closest shape to those in f4?
Cheers.[close]
My radial slims just felt really slow for me even with good bearings.[close]
Do explain, I was considering stopping on the way home at my local to grab some radial slims.
Well they were 99s and colored; I feel like colored wheels tend to feel a little slower and a little softer.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteConical full maybe?Expand QuoteIve been riding f4 radial slims for a while now but recently set up f1 mike Anderson wides and they feel so nice. Since they are kinda hard to find what would be the closest shape to those in f4?
Cheers.[close]
My radial slims just felt really slow for me even with good bearings.[close]
Do explain, I was considering stopping on the way home at my local to grab some radial slims.[close]
Idk why exactly tho, I’ve skated most of the F4 shapes and those were just sluggish.
When I switched the bearings back to a new set of conical fulls and the speed felt better again.
Im on a new set of 99 conical
I made a mental list and realized I haven’t skated the same size/shape/duro more than once over 8 sets in 5 yrs
https://www.instagram.com/p/BwkScN-F-Jj/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=1goszdh4v32cu
spitfire really has the formula down..
I buy wheels and two weeks later they put out a new shape I want more
curious to see the measurements vs conicals
Tablets will have the widest riding surface and the slimmest profile. Cannot wait for themYep, that's what I figured based on the picture of 51s
Expand Quotespitfire really has the formula down..
I buy wheels and two weeks later they put out a new shape I want more
curious to see the measurements vs conicals[close]
FYI:
Radial slim: 52mm, 30 width, 18.5 riding surface
Conical: 52mm, 31.5 width, 19.5 riding surface
Conical Full: 52mm, 32.5 width, 21.5 riding surface
Tablet: 52mm, 29mm width, 22.5 riding surface
Tablets will have the widest riding surface and the slimmest profile. Cannot wait for them
Expand Quotespitfire really has the formula down..
I buy wheels and two weeks later they put out a new shape I want more
curious to see the measurements vs conicals[close]
FYI:
Radial slim: 52mm, 30 width, 18.5 riding surface
Conical: 52mm, 31.5 width, 19.5 riding surface
Conical Full: 52mm, 32.5 width, 21.5 riding surface
Tablet: 52mm, 29mm width, 22.5 riding surface
Tablets will have the widest riding surface and the slimmest profile. Cannot wait for them
Not trying to offend the spitfire fans butttt...
The tablets look exactly like the same shape as a bones v2
Exactly
Slims have a pretty wide surface area though. Im running them and they really aren't that slow. You sure you were using the right size? The riding area is nearly as big as a conical so I dont see why yours are slow. BTW if you wanna buy slims get them in 99a no 101aExpand QuoteExpand QuoteConical full maybe?Expand QuoteIve been riding f4 radial slims for a while now but recently set up f1 mike Anderson wides and they feel so nice. Since they are kinda hard to find what would be the closest shape to those in f4?
Cheers.[close]
My radial slims just felt really slow for me even with good bearings.[close]
Do explain, I was considering stopping on the way home at my local to grab some radial slims.[close]
Probably has to do with surface area. With conical fulls, the more surface area or wheels on the ground, the faster you go. Slims not as much.
Slims have a pretty wide surface area though. Im running them and they really aren't that slow. You sure you were using the right size? The riding area is nearly as big as a conical so I dont see why yours are slow. BTW if you wanna buy slims get them in 99a no 101aExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteConical full maybe?Expand QuoteIve been riding f4 radial slims for a while now but recently set up f1 mike Anderson wides and they feel so nice. Since they are kinda hard to find what would be the closest shape to those in f4?
Cheers.[close]
My radial slims just felt really slow for me even with good bearings.[close]
Do explain, I was considering stopping on the way home at my local to grab some radial slims.[close]
Probably has to do with surface area. With conical fulls, the more surface area or wheels on the ground, the faster you go. Slims not as much.[close]
Not trying to offend the spitfire fans butttt...
The tablets look exactly like the same shape as a bones v2
Exactly
Nothings wrong with 101a, its all personal preference. However, most people that I know that have used spitfires (especially radial slims including me) find that 99a slides a little better and has just slightly better rebound. Im not gonna stop you if you want 101a but im just giving you my advice.Expand QuoteSlims have a pretty wide surface area though. Im running them and they really aren't that slow. You sure you were using the right size? The riding area is nearly as big as a conical so I dont see why yours are slow. BTW if you wanna buy slims get them in 99a no 101aExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteConical full maybe?Expand QuoteIve been riding f4 radial slims for a while now but recently set up f1 mike Anderson wides and they feel so nice. Since they are kinda hard to find what would be the closest shape to those in f4?
Cheers.[close]
My radial slims just felt really slow for me even with good bearings.[close]
Do explain, I was considering stopping on the way home at my local to grab some radial slims.[close]
Probably has to do with surface area. With conical fulls, the more surface area or wheels on the ground, the faster you go. Slims not as much.[close][close]
Hey, whats wrong with the 101a? Just curious
99a slides a little betterno
99a has just slightly better reboundyes
Expand QuoteNot trying to offend the spitfire fans butttt...
The tablets look exactly like the same shape as a bones v2
Exactly[close]
Some of us really love that shape of wheel but prefer spits... so this is exactly what I've been waiting for. Classic fulls and Tablets like the good ol days. :D
noExpand Quote99a slides a little better[close]yesExpand Quote99a has just slightly better rebound[close]
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Stoked!
I would not say that 99a slide "better", but that they are less slippery and force you to fully commit into your slide, giving you the feeling that you have more control and that it is "better".Yeah im sorry if you misunder stood that i shoulda worded it better. Yeah 99a is less slippery but honestly between that and 101a its not too much of a difference. However, I do have a little more control on 99a wheels and they also have a little better rebound. Sorry about that
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Stoked![close]
Is there a release date yet? I hope these shits drop soon..I wanted to get the radial slim but these look fuego - while we at it, Can you really feel the difference between 99 and 101 hardness?
https://www.instagram.com/p/BwkScN-F-Jj/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=1goszdh4v32cu
They look so thin, I wonder if there is enough room to put a spacer between the bearings.
Can anyone describe the classic formula? I want to skate them or should I just stick with F4?
thank you...Expand QuoteCan anyone describe the classic formula? I want to skate them or should I just stick with F4?[close]
*pretty shitty description but the best thing I can think of is that classics feel less dense and they wear down fast.. Not really thinking about my wheels, just enjoying damaging my tail, shrinking wheels and wearing away at my truck hangers slowly over time.
I liked mine 52mm when they were new for asphalt and sidewalks. Went to the park for a few hours now I'm a dirtbike with flatspots in my 2 toeside wheels.
Imo, go 56mm or bigger classics if you want to rip through them.. Otherwise stick with f4 in your normal size to get your money's worth and stay with the "superior" offering.
thank you...Expand QuoteExpand QuoteCan anyone describe the classic formula? I want to skate them or should I just stick with F4?[close]
*pretty shitty description but the best thing I can think of is that classics feel less dense and they wear down fast.. Not really thinking about my wheels, just enjoying damaging my tail, shrinking wheels and wearing away at my truck hangers slowly over time.
I liked mine 52mm when they were new for asphalt and sidewalks. Went to the park for a few hours now I'm a dirtbike with flatspots in my 2 toeside wheels.
Imo, go 56mm or bigger classics if you want to rip through them.. Otherwise stick with f4 in your normal size to get your money's worth and stay with the "superior" offering.[close]
yeah they do wear down fast...Expand Quotethank you...Expand QuoteExpand QuoteCan anyone describe the classic formula? I want to skate them or should I just stick with F4?[close]
*pretty shitty description but the best thing I can think of is that classics feel less dense and they wear down fast.. Not really thinking about my wheels, just enjoying damaging my tail, shrinking wheels and wearing away at my truck hangers slowly over time.
I liked mine 52mm when they were new for asphalt and sidewalks. Went to the park for a few hours now I'm a dirtbike with flatspots in my 2 toeside wheels.
Imo, go 56mm or bigger classics if you want to rip through them.. Otherwise stick with f4 in your normal size to get your money's worth and stay with the "superior" offering.[close][close]
I find they break into a slide more gradually/ progressively/ predictably? and this inspires confidence on super slick new parks and doing speed checks on hill bombs. They do wear down fast but there’s always a compromise.
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bw5A1G3FGg0/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=psrn7cmg2ju0I really hope they screen this graphic on them.
Today I switched out my F4s for a pair of classic formula Lance Mountain 59mm wheels. I was mainly skating around on concrete ground and a red curb. They felt pretty perfect for the occasion. They felt better than F4s, which I've held as the absolute best skate wheel for a while. I suppose the situation determines the optimal wheel.im thinking about skating classics next.
im thinking about skating classics next.Expand QuoteToday I switched out my F4s for a pair of classic formula Lance Mountain 59mm wheels. I was mainly skating around on concrete ground and a red curb. They felt pretty perfect for the occasion. They felt better than F4s, which I've held as the absolute best skate wheel for a while. I suppose the situation determines the optimal wheel.[close]
the week after next I’ll get them!Expand Quoteim thinking about skating classics next.Expand QuoteToday I switched out my F4s for a pair of classic formula Lance Mountain 59mm wheels. I was mainly skating around on concrete ground and a red curb. They felt pretty perfect for the occasion. They felt better than F4s, which I've held as the absolute best skate wheel for a while. I suppose the situation determines the optimal wheel.[close][close]
Same, do the new OG classics have the issue where it's hard as hell to get the bearings in and out...anyone?
s it just me or did they change the shape of the F4 full conicals? Could’ve sworn they were more squared but the ones I just bought have rounded edges. Kinda bummed
I have to agree. I’ve seen some conical fulls that are super square and some with a rounded edge.Expand Quotes it just me or did they change the shape of the F4 full conicals? Could’ve sworn they were more squared but the ones I just bought have rounded edges. Kinda bummed[close]
Mis labeled radials?
For those wanting to see a direct comparison of the Tablets with two other common shapes.I shocked regarding the difference between 54 and 55 tablets, sure look like a damn lot
Top: 54mm Classic
Second From Top: 54mm Tablet
Third From Top: 55mm Tablet
Bottom: 54mm Conical Full
(https://i.imgur.com/FyFdu6O.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/foeEhqc.jpg)
I shocked regarding the difference between 54 and 55 tablets, sure look like a damn lot
Expand QuoteI shocked regarding the difference between 54 and 55 tablets, sure look like a damn lot[close]
It's really noticeable! They're slightly larger than some Acid Wheel 55's I have, they look closer to 56mm.
Buy 55’s, get the 56th millimeter for free!
Anyone here tried bleaching a set of f4s? I’ve found an old set lost in a closet and they’re yellow as Andy Roy’s old teeth. Thinking bleach might brighten them up a bit
Expand QuoteAnyone here tried bleaching a set of f4s? I’ve found an old set lost in a closet and they’re yellow as Andy Roy’s old teeth. Thinking bleach might brighten them up a bit[close]
everyone always talks about the off white color. but I swear, out of the last 4 sets of wheels I’ve had (all f4) only my most recent set of conicals were the off white color. all the previous sets of f4’s have been as white as possible.
For those wanting to see a direct comparison of the Tablets with two other common shapes.how do the tablet compare to the lockins? I am genuinely curious
Top: 54mm Classic
Second From Top: 54mm Tablet
Third From Top: 55mm Tablet
Bottom: 54mm Conical Full
(https://i.imgur.com/FyFdu6O.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/foeEhqc.jpg)
how do the tablet compare to the lockins? I am genuinely curiousThe Tablet shape is like having the inside edge of a lock-in on both sides.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteAnyone here tried bleaching a set of f4s? I’ve found an old set lost in a closet and they’re yellow as Andy Roy’s old teeth. Thinking bleach might brighten them up a bit[close]
everyone always talks about the off white color. but I swear, out of the last 4 sets of wheels I’ve had (all f4) only my most recent set of conicals were the off white color. all the previous sets of f4’s have been as white as possible.[close]
What I do is put a wheel in my mouth and then fire up one of these:
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rit dyed some f4's;
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rit dyed some f4's;[close]
Black Dye made the wheels Blue?
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rit dyed some f4's;[close]
Black Dye made the wheels Blue?[close]
Looks like they may have blended some colors, there are 3 boxes there
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteAnyone here tried bleaching a set of f4s? I’ve found an old set lost in a closet and they’re yellow as Andy Roy’s old teeth. Thinking bleach might brighten them up a bit[close]
everyone always talks about the off white color. but I swear, out of the last 4 sets of wheels I’ve had (all f4) only my most recent set of conicals were the off white color. all the previous sets of f4’s have been as white as possible.[close]
What I do is put a wheel in my mouth and then fire up one of these:
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rit dyed some f4's;
https://www.instagram.com/p/BnXSqGdlWC4/
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rit dyed some f4's;[close]
Black Dye made the wheels Blue?
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rit dyed some f4's;[close]
Black Dye made the wheels Blue?[close]
Looks like they may have blended some colors, there are 3 boxes there
My last 2 sets of conical full ground down to nearly a lock in shape over time anyways. Maybe spit decided to bring back the flat inner wall “lock in shape” because it’s naturally how conicals become on sharp ledges?that'd be a neato idea for a spitfire classic the Crass-cketball as the image on the otherside Jesus died for his sins not mine in their font or a mock spitfire/crass collab, I'd buy it for sure.
I do know they have a massive contact patch and they ride pretty smoothly over fucked up ground. that’s nice.
Anybody know which Spitfire F4 has the same shape as Bones STF V4? I want to try some F4 99a urethane, but that's pretty much my favorite all around wheel shape. I'm thinking either the Classic Full or Radial, but they seem hard to find.yeah, either of those really. Radials shouldn't be hard, and they've had some recent grosso classic fulls.
When do those Andrew Allen ones come out
How do the conical full's skate compared to the classic? Contemplating picking up that set in the classifieds but they seem wide afConical fulls feel really glued to the ground. You'll mash over rough ground & cracks easier than the classics.
So I have 2 sets of formula fours, both conical full 99a but one set is 54mm and the other is 56mm. Both are worn in pretty good and my 56s powerslide with bark on smooth concrete. I just switched to my 54s and I cant get these to bark for shit. Every time I try to powerslide or revert it's very silent and glidey and really throws off my boardfeel. Anybody have any ideas on what could be the issue?
So I have 2 sets of formula fours, both conical full 99a but one set is 54mm and the other is 56mm. Both are worn in pretty good and my 56s powerslide with bark on smooth concrete. I just switched to my 54s and I cant get these to bark for shit. Every time I try to powerslide or revert it's very silent and glidey and really throws off my boardfeel. Anybody have any ideas on what could be the issue?
Expand QuoteSo I have 2 sets of formula fours, both conical full 99a but one set is 54mm and the other is 56mm. Both are worn in pretty good and my 56s powerslide with bark on smooth concrete. I just switched to my 54s and I cant get these to bark for shit. Every time I try to powerslide or revert it's very silent and glidey and really throws off my boardfeel. Anybody have any ideas on what could be the issue?[close]
Did one of your wheels tighten up? That's happened to me a few times. New bearings?
I don't think it's just spits tho. I've been riding bones and it happened to me the other day at a park, out of nowhere it was just a silent, no barking at all, wheels still had play and everything. Perhaps is due to riding through something and getting a coating on the wheels?
So I have 2 sets of formula fours, both conical full 99a but one set is 54mm and the other is 56mm. Both are worn in pretty good and my 56s powerslide with bark on smooth concrete. I just switched to my 54s and I cant get these to bark for shit. Every time I try to powerslide or revert it's very silent and glidey and really throws off my boardfeel. Anybody have any ideas on what could be the issue?
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteSo I have 2 sets of formula fours, both conical full 99a but one set is 54mm and the other is 56mm. Both are worn in pretty good and my 56s powerslide with bark on smooth concrete. I just switched to my 54s and I cant get these to bark for shit. Every time I try to powerslide or revert it's very silent and glidey and really throws off my boardfeel. Anybody have any ideas on what could be the issue?[close]
Did one of your wheels tighten up? That's happened to me a few times. New bearings?
I don't think it's just spits tho. I've been riding bones and it happened to me the other day at a park, out of nowhere it was just a silent, no barking at all, wheels still had play and everything. Perhaps is due to riding through something and getting a coating on the wheels?[close]
The wheels have some play and I'm on an old set of reds. I gave my wheels a cleaning and still is silent. I don't have an explanation but I have a feeling it might be my trucks? This is happening on my Ace 44s that I dont use often, but one time I did set up some STFs on these and the same thing happened, silent glidey slides. I just had these wheels on an older set of 55s and they were sliding normally. I'm so confused right now lol. Gonna throw these on my 55s to make sure I'm not crazy, will report back...
Could be something to do with spreading the load wider on 55s? I don't know. Stop testing equipment and start skating it.
Anyone skating the Tablets, with them being straight cut and on the skinny side, will having the axle sticking out so much fuck up any tricks like slappies? Just set some up but haven't had a chance to skate them yet and the axle nuts are more exposed than the conical fulls I just took off. I also don't want to have to re-thread my axles after every skate.Actually yes. But I was using 149s on an 8.25, so there was a little bit more sticking out of the sides.
Anyone skating the Tablets, with them being straight cut and on the skinny side, will having the axle sticking out so much fuck up any tricks like slappies? Just set some up but haven't had a chance to skate them yet and the axle nuts are more exposed than the conical fulls I just took off. I don't want to have to re-thread my axles after every skate.
been skating 53mm F4 101's the past two weeks at my local skatepark. Absolutely perfect wheel so far for me. I had been riding Bones STF for a few years, and those felt like garbage compared to these. I am sold 100%.
If in doubt go with the classics. If you're a newb I'd go 54mm. Its fun to roll.
I think keeping the wheel size the same is smart. I like regular conicals a lot. After a while the conical fulls felt almost too grippy. Make sure you come back and tell us your thoughts on them after a few sessions.
What are the main differences between Formula 4 99a and 101a? I mean obviously one is harder than the other, but I mean practically speaking, how do they differ? For example, is 99a better on indoor Skatelite and 101a better for concrete parks? I skated Bones STF's for years, but they're pretty much like ice on Skatelite. And for anything other than reasonably smooth cement, they're way too hard and rough.The 101’s feel faster to me and slide easier. The 99’s feel smoother and more controllable. Can’t go wrong with both. Might stick with 99’s from now on.
I’ve had 52mm conical fulls and 52mm classics
Expand QuoteIf in doubt go with the classics. If you're a newb I'd go 54mm. Its fun to roll.[close]
Thanks for the replies. I think I'm going to go with 52mm on both decks, one Classic F4s, and the other F4 Conical Fulls to see if there's any significant difference for me. Leery about 54s tbh 'cause of wheel bite as I'm on the heavier side (180 lbs)
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteIf in doubt go with the classics. If you're a newb I'd go 54mm. Its fun to roll.[close]
Thanks for the replies. I think I'm going to go with 52mm on both decks, one Classic F4s, and the other F4 Conical Fulls to see if there's any significant difference for me. Leery about 54s tbh 'cause of wheel bite as I'm on the heavier side (180 lbs)[close]
OI'm 200 libs and never ride anything smaller than 54mm for what its worth. If you are new to skateboarding, you won't be getting much wheel bite anyway. I think you'll enjoy a slightly bigger wheel when learning and they will last longer. 54mm calling you.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteIf in doubt go with the classics. If you're a newb I'd go 54mm. Its fun to roll.[close]
Thanks for the replies. I think I'm going to go with 52mm on both decks, one Classic F4s, and the other F4 Conical Fulls to see if there's any significant difference for me. Leery about 54s tbh 'cause of wheel bite as I'm on the heavier side (180 lbs)[close]
OI'm 200 libs and never ride anything smaller than 54mm for what its worth. If you are new to skateboarding, you won't be getting much wheel bite anyway. I think you'll enjoy a slightly bigger wheel when learning and they will last longer. 54mm calling you.[close]
Shit. 52s already on the way...
it is but 54mm with 149s. you'll be just fine. you won't be jumping down huge shit just yet.
but to your question, a more square shaped wider wheel will give more wheel bite than a skinnier rounded wheel. think about how the wheel meets the deck. more surface to hit with wider/ squared off wheels.
I like conical fulls on shitty brick streets and rough terrain. Was surprised how the 52s hold it down on brick. I don't like classics on brick but love them for everything else. Always get hyped on the way the classics look though.
hey buttfart, should I get conicals or fulls. I’ve skated both but where I’m debating on getting 52 Louie’s or 56 fulls. Or 55 oski radials. I really wanna support Louie. But the ground where I live is rough so I’m debating. Help.Expand QuoteI like conical fulls on shitty brick streets and rough terrain. Was surprised how the 52s hold it down on brick. I don't like classics on brick but love them for everything else. Always get hyped on the way the classics look though.[close]
I skated classics for a long time but I picked up some conical fulls and I don't know if I'll go back. 54mm conicals handle the rough stuff on my commute (lots of cracks and uneven sidewalk blocks) better than the 56mm classics did and seem just as fast on the smooth streets. Some jagoff put a bunch of oak trees over the bike lanes so there's a bunch of acorns and I just bomb right through and crush them with the conicals and I haven't gotten bodied by a rock yet but now that I said that I can almost guarantee it'll happen tomorrow.
are non f4's still absolute dog shit? I like the shape, size and price of these.
https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Spitfire_OG_Classic_Wheels/descpage-SFOGCWH.html
are non f4's still absolute dog shit? I like the shape, size and price of these.Yes sir, still absolute canine fecal matter.
https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Spitfire_OG_Classic_Wheels/descpage-SFOGCWH.html
are non f4's still absolute dog shit? I like the shape, size and price of these.
https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Spitfire_OG_Classic_Wheels/descpage-SFOGCWH.html
Expand Quoteare non f4's still absolute dog shit? I like the shape, size and price of these.
https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Spitfire_OG_Classic_Wheels/descpage-SFOGCWH.html[close]
yes, if you do any sort of power slide and weigh more than 100 pounds youll just end up wasting your money and buying f4's
are non f4's still absolute dog shit? I like the shape, size and price of these.
https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Spitfire_OG_Classic_Wheels/descpage-SFOGCWH.html
Anyone have experience with the Classic Fulls? I'm debating between the 56mm and 58mm. They seem versatile, do they wear down well? I imagine they'll look more like radials when they wear down.
they've been discontinued for awhile. I’m skating a pair right now. I’d say they feel a lot like a conical full. It’s like if you mixed a classic and a conical full. They feel really good when you’re rolling, like they feel stable. If I were you I’d just get conical fulls at that point or classics. They discontinued them for a reason. Their not amazing but their not bad.Expand QuoteAnyone have experience with the Classic Fulls? I'm debating between the 56mm and 58mm. They seem versatile, do they wear down well? I imagine they'll look more like radials when they wear down.[close]
Im pretty sure that shape was discontinued when the tablets came back. I could be wrong though
they've been discontinued for awhile. I’m skating a pair right now. I’d say they feel a lot like a conical full. It’s like if you mixed a classic and a conical full. They feel really good when you’re rolling, like they feel stable. If I were you I’d just get conical fulls at that point or classics. They discontinued them for a reason. Their not amazing but their not bad.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteAnyone have experience with the Classic Fulls? I'm debating between the 56mm and 58mm. They seem versatile, do they wear down well? I imagine they'll look more like radials when they wear down.[close]
Im pretty sure that shape was discontinued when the tablets came back. I could be wrong though[close]
depends, right now I’m on 54 might hop down to a 52Expand Quotethey've been discontinued for awhile. I’m skating a pair right now. I’d say they feel a lot like a conical full. It’s like if you mixed a classic and a conical full. They feel really good when you’re rolling, like they feel stable. If I were you I’d just get conical fulls at that point or classics. They discontinued them for a reason. Their not amazing but their not bad.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteAnyone have experience with the Classic Fulls? I'm debating between the 56mm and 58mm. They seem versatile, do they wear down well? I imagine they'll look more like radials when they wear down.[close]
Im pretty sure that shape was discontinued when the tablets came back. I could be wrong though[close][close]
Thanks for the input. I've ridden the conical fulls and while I think they feel great, I felt they wore down to be too wide/square for my taste. There's some Lance Mountains that just came out, and beside them looking sick with the one colored wheel, I've been curious about them.
Nollie, what mm do you ride?
Slick.
Slick in a good way though. 360 slides with ease...
What is going on with the Andrew Allen wheels?
Expand QuoteIf in doubt go with the classics. If you're a newb I'd go 54mm. Its fun to roll.[close]
Thanks for the replies. I think I'm going to go with 52mm on both decks, one Classic F4s, and the other F4 Conical Fulls to see if there's any significant difference for me. Leery about 54s tbh 'cause of wheel bite as I'm on the heavier side (180 lbs)
I can’t find a set of 55’s anywhere. Are they sold out for good? Or is Spitfire going to produce some more?
Anyone else go back to skating F4’s after trying other wheels out and realizing you should have never ventured out in the first place? Put some new conical 56 99’s on yesterday and was like...yep, nothing beats the control, slide, and chirp of spitfires. Feels like home.
Anyone else go back to skating F4’s after trying other wheels out and realizing you should have never ventured out in the first place? Put some new conical 56 99’s on yesterday and was like...yep, nothing beats the control, slide, and chirp of spitfires. Feels like home.I rode some wayward wheels, what a terrible terrible mistake that was! F4s in 99a are prefect and I'll never cheat on them ever again
I've skated the 99s for a while now but the set i was running was below 50mm so I put some old 101s back on and based on one day of skating I really prefer the 99s. Feels like the static friction on both are the same but the kinetic friction in the 101s is much smaller than on the 99s: It takes as much effort to get them both to slide but the 101s slide much more when they've broken into a slide. Felt like I had no control over the slide with the 101s. Slipped out quite a few times and that never happened with the 99s. Granted I've gotten much more used to how the 99s feel but I do remember having similar thoughts before.Been skating two sets of 99a’s in a row now, I’m a little bit afraid how’s the indoor season will be as I just got some 101a’s again😬 I use to prefer those over 99’s for years but now I’m not so sure anymore...🤔
Got a few sets of 101s to wear out enough to kick down to some kid and then go back to 99A conical full (or tablets) exclusively. 🤔
I can’t find a set of 55’s anywhere. Are they sold out for good? Or is Spitfire going to produce some more?
I rode some wayward wheels, what a terrible terrible mistake that was! F4s in 99a are prefect and I'll never cheat on them ever againExpand QuoteAnyone else go back to skating F4’s after trying other wheels out and realizing you should have never ventured out in the first place? Put some new conical 56 99’s on yesterday and was like...yep, nothing beats the control, slide, and chirp of spitfires. Feels like home.[close]
Been skating two sets of 99a’s in a row now, I’m a little bit afraid how’s the indoor season will be as I just got some 101a’s again😬 I use to prefer those over 99’s for years but now I’m not so sure anymore...🤔Expand QuoteI've skated the 99s for a while now but the set i was running was below 50mm so I put some old 101s back on and based on one day of skating I really prefer the 99s. Feels like the static friction on both are the same but the kinetic friction in the 101s is much smaller than on the 99s: It takes as much effort to get them both to slide but the 101s slide much more when they've broken into a slide. Felt like I had no control over the slide with the 101s. Slipped out quite a few times and that never happened with the 99s. Granted I've gotten much more used to how the 99s feel but I do remember having similar thoughts before.
Got a few sets of 101s to wear out enough to kick down to some kid and then go back to 99A conical full (or tablets) exclusively. 🤔[close]
Anyone else go back to skating F4’s after trying other wheels out and realizing you should have never ventured out in the first place? Put some new conical 56 99’s on yesterday and was like...yep, nothing beats the control, slide, and chirp of spitfires. Feels like home.
Maybe there's some truth to this supply issue? The new Fall '19 catalog that was just posted today contains only three models of wheels: a new Jarne pro F4, and 2 colored tablet shapes.Expand Quote
I can’t find a set of 55’s anywhere. Are they sold out for good? Or is Spitfire going to produce some more?[close]
According to folks at Labor, Deluxe is backordered on Spitfire's for like a month and a half because of skateboarding's current popularity.
This sounds like a bad joke but I'm being totally serious.
The new Fall '19 catalog
We have a pretty good supply of the andrew allen conical full and a few other styles that might be sold out.m
Also use SLAP10 at checkout for 10% off
http://www.35thave.com/shop/Skate/Wheels/Spitfire.htm (http://www.35thave.com/shop/Skate/Wheels/Spitfire.htm)
We have a pretty good supply of the andrew allen conical full and a few other styles that might be sold out.
Also use SLAP10 at checkout for 10% off
http://www.35thave.com/shop/Skate/Wheels/Spitfire.htm (http://www.35thave.com/shop/Skate/Wheels/Spitfire.htm)
Recently put some 52mm 99d F4 Radial Slims on. It seems like my bearings are sliding out a little? anyone had this happen?
Anyone else go back to skating F4’s after trying other wheels out and realizing you should have never ventured out in the first place? Put some new conical 56 99’s on yesterday and was like...yep, nothing beats the control, slide, and chirp of spitfires. Feels like home.Yes. I get NHS gear half price through work so thought I'd try out some OJ's and at half price they're still not worth it compared to f4 99's
I’m looking to start skating transition a bit and need help choosing some wheels.I am going to be doing the same and I'm gonna go with 54mm conical fulls. I got them a while ago but was hardly skating. When I got them I had been skating a local park a lot and couldn't get up kickers and stuff. I never skated parks a lot and I didn't really know what to do. When I got the 54mms I was getting up stuff and keeping speed no problem. I'm going with 99a and the full should be good contact.
If you were going to skate a large outdoor concrete bowl what Formula Fours (size+model) would you personally want to be riding?
What about for transition at an indoor skate park?
Thanks guys.
I am going to be doing the same and I'm gonna go with 54mm conical fulls. I got them a while ago but was hardly skating. When I got them I had been skating a local park a lot and couldn't get up kickers and stuff. I never skated parks a lot and I didn't really know what to do. When I got the 54mms I was getting up stuff and keeping speed no problem. I'm going with 99a and the full should be good contact.Expand QuoteI’m looking to start skating transition a bit and need help choosing some wheels.
If you were going to skate a large outdoor concrete bowl what Formula Fours (size+model) would you personally want to be riding?
What about for transition at an indoor skate park?
Thanks guys.[close]
I have 52 mm f4 radials and I am looking to go up in size (54-55) with a wider contact patch.
Been working on slappies and I am wondering if certain wheel shapes make it harder to slappy.
Any one have any feedback with conicals, full conicals, and tablets for slappies?
Lots of Tablets for sale but not to many conical or conical full sizes out there right now. I would think lock-ins and tables would be very hard to slappy with but classics would be the best. Any recommendations?
I would think lock-ins and tables would be very hard to slappy with but classics would be the best.
Currently they don't make classic full beyond a lance or grosso version that has 1 colored wheel.
Probably a pass for most people because of it.
I back F4's but PLEASE make them white, so sick of them looking like potatoesAdding pigment takes away from the quality of the urethane.
I had a dream last night that they were introducing 92A Formula Fours. Dunno what to think of it. 🤔
A softer wheel that’d slide just as a Formula Four would be a dream. But I guess it’s just that, a dream. :-X
got my first set of F4's a coupe weks ago after years of 'wheels are wheels maaaaan' had been riding bones for a long time. The difference is insane!
I have seen the light
SHALOM
Expand Quotegot my first set of F4's a coupe weks ago after years of 'wheels are wheels maaaaan' had been riding bones for a long time. The difference is insane!
I have seen the light
SHALOM[close]
I've never had any other gear switch improve my skating more (or make it more enjoyable). It is such a good feeling.
got my first set of F4's a coupe weks ago after years of 'wheels are wheels maaaaan' had been riding bones for a long time. The difference is insane!welcome home brother
I have seen the light
SHALOM
Expand Quotegot my first set of F4's a coupe weks ago after years of 'wheels are wheels maaaaan' had been riding bones for a long time. The difference is insane!
I have seen the light
SHALOM[close]
I've never had any other gear switch improve my skating more (or make it more enjoyable). It is such a good feeling.
Expand QuoteI am going to be doing the same and I'm gonna go with 54mm conical fulls. I got them a while ago but was hardly skating. When I got them I had been skating a local park a lot and couldn't get up kickers and stuff. I never skated parks a lot and I didn't really know what to do. When I got the 54mms I was getting up stuff and keeping speed no problem. I'm going with 99a and the full should be good contact.Expand QuoteI’m looking to start skating transition a bit and need help choosing some wheels.
If you were going to skate a large outdoor concrete bowl what Formula Fours (size+model) would you personally want to be riding?
What about for transition at an indoor skate park?
Thanks guys.[close][close]
Solid advice here; 54mm is basically the perfect all around size IMO. Classic fulls would work really well too, if you're looking for a wider contact patch with a bowed sidewall that makes breaking into a slide a bit easier. I've got both classic and conicals and am extremely curious about the full version of both, so let everyone know how it all works out.
got my first set of F4's a coupe weks ago after years of 'wheels are wheels maaaaan' had been riding bones for a long time. The difference is insane!
I have seen the light
SHALOM
Got this tattoo almost 14 years ago. Haven't bought or rode another wheel company's product since 1992. I got the tee shirt with the WWII soldier with the flamethrower and I've been hooked ever since
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48848629967_baa1ca1c3c_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2hqzZQ4) (https://flic.kr/p/2hqzZQ4) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/184579819@N02/)
Expand QuoteGot this tattoo almost 14 years ago. Haven't bought or rode another wheel company's product since 1992. I got the tee shirt with the WWII soldier with the flamethrower and I've been hooked ever since
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48848629967_baa1ca1c3c_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2hqzZQ4) (https://flic.kr/p/2hqzZQ4) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/184579819@N02/)[close]
ill never understand getting a logo of a brand you arent part of tattooed on yourself. but hey whatever floats your boat.
I don't think it's necessary to understand why other people do the things they do and like the art they like. I don't question my tastes
Sup gods, I bought thw tablet shapes because of the wider riding surface (was rocking the classics before) but people here don't seem to be as fond of them (only read like 2 pages before this one) whats the dealio with this shape? Pros and Cons? Sorry if this has been asked before (which it surely has been)
Expand QuoteSup gods, I bought thw tablet shapes because of the wider riding surface (was rocking the classics before) but people here don't seem to be as fond of them (only read like 2 pages before this one) whats the dealio with this shape? Pros and Cons? Sorry if this has been asked before (which it surely has been)[close]
I’m going to piggyback this question as I was forced to buy tablets since there were no f4 conical fulls to be found.
I saw what’s-his-name’s video review but who has firsthand experience?
tablets - Straight Cut profile, thin riding surface, speed and control for the sick.
conical full - Wider riding surface and cutaway design for unmatched control and lasting speed everywhere.
Expand Quotetablets - Straight Cut profile, thin riding surface, speed and control for the sick.
conical full - Wider riding surface and cutaway design for unmatched control and lasting speed everywhere.[close]
I mean, I get that more surface area equals a relatively smoother roll, but what am I supposed to do with “control for the sick?”
Am I sick? Should I become sick? Does it have to be terminal?
I back F4's but PLEASE make them white, so sick of them looking like potatoes
Expand QuoteI back F4's but PLEASE make them white, so sick of them looking like potatoes[close]
I'd be so bummed to have deal with a white Formula Four. Gotta have my rusty potatoes.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI back F4's but PLEASE make them white, so sick of them looking like potatoes[close]
I'd be so bummed to have deal with a white Formula Four. Gotta have my rusty potatoes.[close]
If you’re worried about the whiteness of your wheels, you could always skate Bones. But then like, you’d be skating Bones. And that’s pretty fucked up.
I just think of purple neff outfits when I see bones wheels.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI back F4's but PLEASE make them white, so sick of them looking like potatoes[close]
I'd be so bummed to have deal with a white Formula Four. Gotta have my rusty potatoes.[close]
If you’re worried about the whiteness of your wheels, you could always skate Bones. But then like, you’d be skating Bones. And that’s pretty fucked up.[close]
I couldn't imagine having to admit, or even say out loud I was riding Bones
Where the fuck did Dyet go? Was he injured or did he just blow it?I just think of purple neff outfits when I see bones wheels.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI back F4's but PLEASE make them white, so sick of them looking like potatoes[close]
I'd be so bummed to have deal with a white Formula Four. Gotta have my rusty potatoes.[close]
If you’re worried about the whiteness of your wheels, you could always skate Bones. But then like, you’d be skating Bones. And that’s pretty fucked up.[close]
I couldn't imagine having to admit, or even say out loud I was riding Bones[close]
Where the fuck did Dyet go? Was he injured or did he just blow it?Expand QuoteI just think of purple neff outfits when I see bones wheels.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI back F4's but PLEASE make them white, so sick of them looking like potatoes[close]
I'd be so bummed to have deal with a white Formula Four. Gotta have my rusty potatoes.[close]
If you’re worried about the whiteness of your wheels, you could always skate Bones. But then like, you’d be skating Bones. And that’s pretty fucked up.[close]
I couldn't imagine having to admit, or even say out loud I was riding Bones[close][close]
Oh, he's still on Darkstar. Who knew?
Expand QuoteI have 52 mm f4 radials and I am looking to go up in size (54-55) with a wider contact patch.
Been working on slappies and I am wondering if certain wheel shapes make it harder to slappy.
Any one have any feedback with conicals, full conicals, and tablets for slappies?
Lots of Tablets for sale but not to many conical or conical full sizes out there right now. I would think lock-ins and tables would be very hard to slappy with but classics would be the best. Any recommendations?[close]
Opinions will differ, but for me, nothing beats a spit classic for slappies, they just roll onto curbs.
Loose Aces and Spit classics = slappie heaven.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI have 52 mm f4 radials and I am looking to go up in size (54-55) with a wider contact patch.
Been working on slappies and I am wondering if certain wheel shapes make it harder to slappy.
Any one have any feedback with conicals, full conicals, and tablets for slappies?
Lots of Tablets for sale but not to many conical or conical full sizes out there right now. I would think lock-ins and tables would be very hard to slappy with but classics would be the best. Any recommendations?[close]
Opinions will differ, but for me, nothing beats a spit classic for slappies, they just roll onto curbs.
Loose Aces and Spit classics = slappie heaven.[close]
I got 55 mm classics 99a and they are terrific for slappies. You really roll right up on the curb. I thought the classics would lack grip because of the smaller contact patch, but the wheels had plenty of grip. Very pleased with my purchase.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI have 52 mm f4 radials and I am looking to go up in size (54-55) with a wider contact patch.
Been working on slappies and I am wondering if certain wheel shapes make it harder to slappy.
Any one have any feedback with conicals, full conicals, and tablets for slappies?
Lots of Tablets for sale but not to many conical or conical full sizes out there right now. I would think lock-ins and tables would be very hard to slappy with but classics would be the best. Any recommendations?[close]
Opinions will differ, but for me, nothing beats a spit classic for slappies, they just roll onto curbs.
Loose Aces and Spit classics = slappie heaven.[close]
I got 55 mm classics 99a and they are terrific for slappies. You really roll right up on the curb. I thought the classics would lack grip because of the smaller contact patch, but the wheels had plenty of grip. Very pleased with my purchase.[close]
Width of the contact patch does not have any effect on grip.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI have 52 mm f4 radials and I am looking to go up in size (54-55) with a wider contact patch.
Been working on slappies and I am wondering if certain wheel shapes make it harder to slappy.
Any one have any feedback with conicals, full conicals, and tablets for slappies?
Lots of Tablets for sale but not to many conical or conical full sizes out there right now. I would think lock-ins and tables would be very hard to slappy with but classics would be the best. Any recommendations?[close]
Opinions will differ, but for me, nothing beats a spit classic for slappies, they just roll onto curbs.
Loose Aces and Spit classics = slappie heaven.[close]
I got 55 mm classics 99a and they are terrific for slappies. You really roll right up on the curb. I thought the classics would lack grip because of the smaller contact patch, but the wheels had plenty of grip. Very pleased with my purchase.[close]
Width of the contact patch does not have any effect on grip.[close]
That is why drag race cars use really narrow wheels in the back.
The skate wheel grip is basically a sliding friction between the ground and the wheel, and the width of the contact patch of the wheel does not have any effect.(https://longboardenvy.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/xVenom-Magnum.jpg.pagespeed.ic.cEAvR9vWhl.jpg)
(https://longboardenvy.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/xVenom-Magnum.jpg.pagespeed.ic.cEAvR9vWhl.jpg)Expand QuoteThe skate wheel grip is basically a sliding friction between the ground and the wheel, and the width of the contact patch of the wheel does not have any effect.[close]
A wheel like that in 99 f4 would obviously be grippier than classics. That fact about friction does not work with skate wheels. We are grinding the wheels down, wider contact patch means more material to wear down, which means more grip.
I back F4's but PLEASE make them white, so sick of them looking like potatoes
So you honestly don't think that wheel in an f4 would be grippier than classics, because physics?
Spitfire classic formula is inferior and slightly grippier than formula fours, no doubt. They wear down faster, too. Gets the job done but it’s worth spending the extra $5-$10 for the F4.
Expand QuoteSpitfire classic formula is inferior and slightly grippier than formula fours, no doubt. They wear down faster, too. Gets the job done but it’s worth spending the extra $5-$10 for the F4.[close]
This is why we need a Manderson F4
gotta rotate your tiresYeah need to rotate my F4's soon, my conicals are getting coned.
Expand QuoteSpitfire classic formula is inferior and slightly grippier than formula fours, no doubt. They wear down faster, too. Gets the job done but it’s worth spending the extra $5-$10 for the F4.[close]
This is why we need a Manderson F4
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteSpitfire classic formula is inferior and slightly grippier than formula fours, no doubt. They wear down faster, too. Gets the job done but it’s worth spending the extra $5-$10 for the F4.[close]
This is why we need a Manderson F4[close]
Couldn't agree more!
I heard a really shitty rumor this weekend. Supposedly, the guy who owns the F4 formula and factory where they are made is calling it quits with skateboard wheels and moving on. And taking his secret formula with him. My local is getting a shipment of F4's this week and then that's it. No more. It seems almost unbelievable that Spitfire would not pay whatever the cost to keep making these wonderful wheels. But that's what I heard. Really hoping this is untrue. But to be safe, I just ordered 8 sets online this morning.
I was a bit of a late comer to the F4 hype. I got my first set maybe 4 or 5 years ago. But fell in love instantly. They honestly changed skating for me and made it more fun, if that's possible. They are that good and better than any other wheel. I've been skating for 35 years; and not since the advent of boards growing noses has something changed skating so much and in such a good way as F4s, imo.
Hopefully LennyDLXSF can get on here and dispsell this nasty rumor. Please...
Expand QuoteI heard a really shitty rumor this weekend. Supposedly, the guy who owns the F4 formula and factory where they are made is calling it quits with skateboard wheels and moving on. And taking his secret formula with him. My local is getting a shipment of F4's this week and then that's it. No more. It seems almost unbelievable that Spitfire would not pay whatever the cost to keep making these wonderful wheels. But that's what I heard. Really hoping this is untrue. But to be safe, I just ordered 8 sets online this morning.
I was a bit of a late comer to the F4 hype. I got my first set maybe 4 or 5 years ago. But fell in love instantly. They honestly changed skating for me and made it more fun, if that's possible. They are that good and better than any other wheel. I've been skating for 35 years; and not since the advent of boards growing noses has something changed skating so much and in such a good way as F4s, imo.
Hopefully LennyDLXSF can get on here and dispsell this nasty rumor. Please...[close]
you shut your whore mouth
I'm guessing most of the difference in grip comes from the lip shape. So a classic with that huge bevel is obviously gonna grip less than like a tablet.Expand QuoteSo you honestly don't think that wheel in an f4 would be grippier than classics, because physics?[close]
Yes. So far I haven't come across anything that would suggest otherwise. No scientific proof nor do I find any difference in how classics and conical fulls slide. I know it's not intuitive. It is a massively common misconception that larger surface area (or wider wheels) has more grip but there just isn't any evidence to back it.
I heard a really shitty rumor this weekend. Supposedly, the guy who owns the F4 formula and factory where they are made is calling it quits with skateboard wheels and moving on. And taking his secret formula with him. My local is getting a shipment of F4's this week and then that's it. No more. It seems almost unbelievable that Spitfire would not pay whatever the cost to keep making these wonderful wheels. But that's what I heard. Really hoping this is untrue. But to be safe, I just ordered 8 sets online this morning.
I was a bit of a late comer to the F4 hype. I got my first set maybe 4 or 5 years ago. But fell in love instantly. They honestly changed skating for me and made it more fun, if that's possible. They are that good and better than any other wheel. I've been skating for 35 years; and not since the advent of boards growing noses has something changed skating so much and in such a good way as F4s, imo.
Hopefully LennyDLXSF can get on here and dispsell this nasty rumor. Please...
Expand QuoteI heard a really shitty rumor this weekend. Supposedly, the guy who owns the F4 formula and factory where they are made is calling it quits with skateboard wheels and moving on. And taking his secret formula with him. My local is getting a shipment of F4's this week and then that's it. No more. It seems almost unbelievable that Spitfire would not pay whatever the cost to keep making these wonderful wheels. But that's what I heard. Really hoping this is untrue. But to be safe, I just ordered 8 sets online this morning.
I was a bit of a late comer to the F4 hype. I got my first set maybe 4 or 5 years ago. But fell in love instantly. They honestly changed skating for me and made it more fun, if that's possible. They are that good and better than any other wheel. I've been skating for 35 years; and not since the advent of boards growing noses has something changed skating so much and in such a good way as F4s, imo.
Hopefully LennyDLXSF can get on here and dispsell this nasty rumor. Please...[close]
This better be some kind of sick and twisted joke...
That being said, I'm sure I got some Made in Mexico F4s awhile back? And doesn't that dude you speak of have his own wheel company also?
But yes, also noticing an increased push with the Classic formula... hmmm....
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI heard a really shitty rumor this weekend. Supposedly, the guy who owns the F4 formula and factory where they are made is calling it quits with skateboard wheels and moving on. And taking his secret formula with him. My local is getting a shipment of F4's this week and then that's it. No more. It seems almost unbelievable that Spitfire would not pay whatever the cost to keep making these wonderful wheels. But that's what I heard. Really hoping this is untrue. But to be safe, I just ordered 8 sets online this morning.
I was a bit of a late comer to the F4 hype. I got my first set maybe 4 or 5 years ago. But fell in love instantly. They honestly changed skating for me and made it more fun, if that's possible. They are that good and better than any other wheel. I've been skating for 35 years; and not since the advent of boards growing noses has something changed skating so much and in such a good way as F4s, imo.
Hopefully LennyDLXSF can get on here and dispsell this nasty rumor. Please...[close]
This better be some kind of sick and twisted joke...
That being said, I'm sure I got some Made in Mexico F4s awhile back? And doesn't that dude you speak of have his own wheel company also?
But yes, also noticing an increased push with the Classic formula... hmmm....[close]
What is this other wheel company you speak of?
I heard a really shitty rumor this weekend. Supposedly, the guy who owns the F4 formula and factory where they are made is calling it quits with skateboard wheels and moving on. And taking his secret formula with him. My local is getting a shipment of F4's this week and then that's it. No more. It seems almost unbelievable that Spitfire would not pay whatever the cost to keep making these wonderful wheels. But that's what I heard. Really hoping this is untrue. But to be safe, I just ordered 8 sets online this morning.
I was a bit of a late comer to the F4 hype. I got my first set maybe 4 or 5 years ago. But fell in love instantly. They honestly changed skating for me and made it more fun, if that's possible. They are that good and better than any other wheel. I've been skating for 35 years; and not since the advent of boards growing noses has something changed skating so much and in such a good way as F4s, imo.
Hopefully LennyDLXSF can get on here and dispsell this nasty rumor. Please...
I'm guessing most of the difference in grip comes from the lip shape. So a classic with that huge bevel is obviously gonna grip less than like a tablet.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteSo you honestly don't think that wheel in an f4 would be grippier than classics, because physics?[close]
Yes. So far I haven't come across anything that would suggest otherwise. No scientific proof nor do I find any difference in how classics and conical fulls slide. I know it's not intuitive. It is a massively common misconception that larger surface area (or wider wheels) has more grip but there just isn't any evidence to back it.[close]
I wouldn't mind skating the classics if they made them in more shapes, I like square wheels. Unfortunately I live in rural Iowa so my main go to is tactics and they've been low of F4's. If anyone from deluxe is reading this make conical fulls in classic formula and you'll have me.
honestly as long as there is spitfire wheels in this world I'll be ok. I can't see myself skating a bones wheel.Expand QuoteI wouldn't mind skating the classics if they made them in more shapes, I like square wheels. Unfortunately I live in rural Iowa so my main go to is tactics and they've been low of F4's. If anyone from deluxe is reading this make conical fulls in classic formula and you'll have me.[close]
The OG classic shape is pretty wide and square. I have to say the Classic Formula has improved but its not as good or durable as the F4....
Lenny?!?!
I love F4s but if they stopped being made I would have no problem switching to bones.I would. I would rather skate flatspotted classics than smooth plasticky hoffart asshole shaped wheels.
I would. I would rather skate flatspotted classics than smooth plasticky hoffart asshole shaped wheels.Expand QuoteI love F4s but if they stopped being made I would have no problem switching to bones.[close]
Expand QuoteI heard a really shitty rumor this weekend. Supposedly, the guy who owns the F4 formula and factory where they are made is calling it quits with skateboard wheels and moving on. And taking his secret formula with him. My local is getting a shipment of F4's this week and then that's it. No more. It seems almost unbelievable that Spitfire would not pay whatever the cost to keep making these wonderful wheels. But that's what I heard. Really hoping this is untrue. But to be safe, I just ordered 8 sets online this morning.
I was a bit of a late comer to the F4 hype. I got my first set maybe 4 or 5 years ago. But fell in love instantly. They honestly changed skating for me and made it more fun, if that's possible. They are that good and better than any other wheel. I've been skating for 35 years; and not since the advent of boards growing noses has something changed skating so much and in such a good way as F4s, imo.
Hopefully LennyDLXSF can get on here and dispsell this nasty rumor. Please...[close]
I heard the same rumor a couple weeks ago. My local was completely out of ALL spitfire at the time and they said to snatch up F4 wherever you can find them. Then another local was fully restocked the following week. I’m still hoping it’s just a rumor.
I would. I would rather skate flatspotted classics than smooth plasticky hoffart asshole shaped wheels.Expand QuoteI love F4s but if they stopped being made I would have no problem switching to bones.[close]
I love F4s but if they stopped being made I would have no problem switching to bones.
Expand QuoteI would. I would rather skate flatspotted classics than smooth plasticky hoffart asshole shaped wheels.Expand QuoteI love F4s but if they stopped being made I would have no problem switching to bones.[close][close]
Flat spots over bones wheels all day. I won some bones wheels in a giveaway. I can trade them in to save my life.
heard about this aswell, i just got some 101f4 radial slims 2 days ago :(Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI heard a really shitty rumor this weekend. Supposedly, the guy who owns the F4 formula and factory where they are made is calling it quits with skateboard wheels and moving on. And taking his secret formula with him. My local is getting a shipment of F4's this week and then that's it. No more. It seems almost unbelievable that Spitfire would not pay whatever the cost to keep making these wonderful wheels. But that's what I heard. Really hoping this is untrue. But to be safe, I just ordered 8 sets online this morning.
I was a bit of a late comer to the F4 hype. I got my first set maybe 4 or 5 years ago. But fell in love instantly. They honestly changed skating for me and made it more fun, if that's possible. They are that good and better than any other wheel. I've been skating for 35 years; and not since the advent of boards growing noses has something changed skating so much and in such a good way as F4s, imo.
Hopefully LennyDLXSF can get on here and dispsell this nasty rumor. Please...[close]
I heard the same rumor a couple weeks ago. My local was completely out of ALL spitfire at the time and they said to snatch up F4 wherever you can find them. Then another local was fully restocked the following week. I’m still hoping it’s just a rumor.[close]
This is indeed a disturbing universe.
heard about this aswell, i just got some 101f4 radial slims 2 days ago :(Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI heard a really shitty rumor this weekend. Supposedly, the guy who owns the F4 formula and factory where they are made is calling it quits with skateboard wheels and moving on. And taking his secret formula with him. My local is getting a shipment of F4's this week and then that's it. No more. It seems almost unbelievable that Spitfire would not pay whatever the cost to keep making these wonderful wheels. But that's what I heard. Really hoping this is untrue. But to be safe, I just ordered 8 sets online this morning.
I was a bit of a late comer to the F4 hype. I got my first set maybe 4 or 5 years ago. But fell in love instantly. They honestly changed skating for me and made it more fun, if that's possible. They are that good and better than any other wheel. I've been skating for 35 years; and not since the advent of boards growing noses has something changed skating so much and in such a good way as F4s, imo.
Hopefully LennyDLXSF can get on here and dispsell this nasty rumor. Please...[close]
I heard the same rumor a couple weeks ago. My local was completely out of ALL spitfire at the time and they said to snatch up F4 wherever you can find them. Then another local was fully restocked the following week. I’m still hoping it’s just a rumor.[close]
This is indeed a disturbing universe.[close]
http://nfgmfg.com
Seems like this is who actually makes the wheels, and then loophole, or whoever else as a company places an order, they put your logo on the wheel. If the F4 rumor is true, I’d imagine they’re about to blow up with orders.
http://nfgmfg.comWould also explain why some of my f4s are much brighter
Seems like this is who actually makes the wheels, and then loophole, or whoever else as a company places an order, they put your logo on the wheel. If the F4 rumor is true, I’d imagine they’re about to blow up with orders.
Expand Quotehttp://nfgmfg.com
Seems like this is who actually makes the wheels, and then loophole, or whoever else as a company places an order, they put your logo on the wheel. If the F4 rumor is true, I’d imagine they’re about to blow up with orders.[close]
The rumor is the company is getting out of the game, if said rumor was true wouldn't they not take any new orders?
Expand QuoteExpand Quotehttp://nfgmfg.com
Seems like this is who actually makes the wheels, and then loophole, or whoever else as a company places an order, they put your logo on the wheel. If the F4 rumor is true, I’d imagine they’re about to blow up with orders.[close]
The rumor is the company is getting out of the game, if said rumor was true wouldn't they not take any new orders?[close]
These are the “formula 5’s” in a sense and not the people who make formula fours. This appears to be a small operation and they’re all hand cut.
Expand Quotehttp://nfgmfg.com
Seems like this is who actually makes the wheels, and then loophole, or whoever else as a company places an order, they put your logo on the wheel. If the F4 rumor is true, I’d imagine they’re about to blow up with orders.[close]
The rumor is the company is getting out of the game, if said rumor was true wouldn't they not take any new orders?
Expand QuoteExpand Quotehttp://nfgmfg.com
Seems like this is who actually makes the wheels, and then loophole, or whoever else as a company places an order, they put your logo on the wheel. If the F4 rumor is true, I’d imagine they’re about to blow up with orders.[close]
The rumor is the company is getting out of the game, if said rumor was true wouldn't they not take any new orders?[close]
Curious why they'd leave, if they are indeed licensing (?) the formula to DLX? Or perhaps DLX owns the 4 formula outright and aren't making anything off the sales of their own 'thane.
Nobody wants to go back to F1s.
Well if DLX owned the F4 urethane then we probably wouldn't be talking about them discontinuing production, this doesn't really make me confident in the future of the wheels.Expand QuoteExpand Quotehttp://nfgmfg.com
Seems like this is who actually makes the wheels, and then loophole, or whoever else as a company places an order, they put your logo on the wheel. If the F4 rumor is true, I’d imagine they’re about to blow up with orders.[close]
The rumor is the company is getting out of the game, if said rumor was true wouldn't they not take any new orders?[close]
Curious why they'd leave, if they are indeed licensing (?) the formula to DLX? Or perhaps DLX owns the 4 formula outright and aren't making anything off the sales of their own 'thane.
Nobody wants to go back to F1s.
I asked the same question a couple years agoExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quotehttp://nfgmfg.com
Seems like this is who actually makes the wheels, and then loophole, or whoever else as a company places an order, they put your logo on the wheel. If the F4 rumor is true, I’d imagine they’re about to blow up with orders.[close]
The rumor is the company is getting out of the game, if said rumor was true wouldn't they not take any new orders?[close]
Curious why they'd leave, if they are indeed licensing (?) the formula to DLX? Or perhaps DLX owns the 4 formula outright and aren't making anything off the sales of their own 'thane.
Nobody wants to go back to F1s.[close]
Was there ever F2/F3 or did we jump straight to F4?
Anyone know the origin of the name "Loophole"? As in - we found a loophole so we can offer wheels with the same urethane as Formula 4?
It looks to me like Loophole and NFG are the same company. Both domains registered privately through Network Solutions and hosted on Wix, using the same Wix DNS servers (dns6 and dns7)
I'm assuming they developed a formula two and three but they weren't good enough to release. Either that or the marketing guy just said F4 sounds coolI asked the same question a couple years agoExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quotehttp://nfgmfg.com
Seems like this is who actually makes the wheels, and then loophole, or whoever else as a company places an order, they put your logo on the wheel. If the F4 rumor is true, I’d imagine they’re about to blow up with orders.[close]
The rumor is the company is getting out of the game, if said rumor was true wouldn't they not take any new orders?[close]
Curious why they'd leave, if they are indeed licensing (?) the formula to DLX? Or perhaps DLX owns the 4 formula outright and aren't making anything off the sales of their own 'thane.
Nobody wants to go back to F1s.[close]
Was there ever F2/F3 or did we jump straight to F4?[close]
Anyone know the origin of the name "Loophole"? As in - we found a loophole so we can offer wheels with the same urethane as Formula 4?
It looks to me like Loophole and NFG are the same company. Both domains registered privately through Network Solutions and hosted on Wix, using the same Wix DNS servers (dns6 and dns7)
I will perpetuate this current rumor and add that I talked to the owner at my local and he heard from a reliable source in Cali that there is definitely something going on with the whole F4 fiasco. Apparently the guy who created the formula, a “urethane scientist” or whatever you’d call him, wanted more money from DLX and they said no, so he said peace. And since DLX doesn’t know exactly what’s in the secret sauce, he has the upper hand.
Expand QuoteI will perpetuate this current rumor and add that I talked to the owner at my local and he heard from a reliable source in Cali that there is definitely something going on with the whole F4 fiasco. Apparently the guy who created the formula, a “urethane scientist” or whatever you’d call him, wanted more money from DLX and they said no, so he said peace. And since DLX doesn’t know exactly what’s in the secret sauce, he has the upper hand.[close]
Was in my local yesterday talked to the crew and they were told by their DLX rep some machinery in the factory went down and took a while to repair which created a back log in manufacturing and created the shortage of F4. DLX could just be blowing smoke while they get it sorted out, or could be the real reason and the rumor spawned from the shortage. The silence from the DLX dudes that post here is definitely saying something.
Someone man up and hit Jim T. on insta.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI will perpetuate this current rumor and add that I talked to the owner at my local and he heard from a reliable source in Cali that there is definitely something going on with the whole F4 fiasco. Apparently the guy who created the formula, a “urethane scientist” or whatever you’d call him, wanted more money from DLX and they said no, so he said peace. And since DLX doesn’t know exactly what’s in the secret sauce, he has the upper hand.[close]
Was in my local yesterday talked to the crew and they were told by their DLX rep some machinery in the factory went down and took a while to repair which created a back log in manufacturing and created the shortage of F4. DLX could just be blowing smoke while they get it sorted out, or could be the real reason and the rumor spawned from the shortage. The silence from the DLX dudes that post here is definitely saying something.
Someone man up and hit Jim T. on insta.[close]
Shit, I just put two and two together... A few weeks ago I complained to Scott at spitfire about my HD Chargers, and he offered to replace them with some more HD Chargers or F4s. I basically said any F4 would be great. Lo and behold, they sent HD Chargers. I wonder if the rumored F4 turmoil had to do with this.
(FYI I still greatly appreciate Scott and Reed's customer service)
I'm gonna need to raid some zumies soon, I bet they have tons of old stock F4's
Expand QuoteI will perpetuate this current rumor and add that I talked to the owner at my local and he heard from a reliable source in Cali that there is definitely something going on with the whole F4 fiasco. Apparently the guy who created the formula, a “urethane scientist” or whatever you’d call him, wanted more money from DLX and they said no, so he said peace. And since DLX doesn’t know exactly what’s in the secret sauce, he has the upper hand.[close]
Was in my local yesterday talked to the crew and they were told by their DLX rep some machinery in the factory went down and took a while to repair which created a back log in manufacturing and created the shortage of F4. DLX could just be blowing smoke while they get it sorted out, or could be the real reason and the rumor spawned from the shortage. The silence from the DLX dudes that post here is definitely saying something.
Someone man up and hit Jim T. on insta.
This news upsets me. Would suck if true.
Funny enough I was cleaning my room out last night trying to declutter and I found this underneath a bunch of random crap, forgot I even had these or how I even got them cuz I sure as Hell don't remember buying em
(https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/75224743_1333011240200712_2792545864223031296_n.jpg?_nc_cat=110&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_oc=AQkJ6LmjtAw3WZbn66AB53RAyaRs04-27rJ-unEtcpYXNUkyqjfWhL6I7BtuQYpTBZOtWixgFV_ldc41SIugWPiG&_nc_ht=scontent-lax3-1.xx&oh=cfef1303b8e4920ab0df2cdb2cd3727a&oe=5E64B309)
Gonna hold on to these for a while just in case the F4 fiasco is true. Only thing that sucks is they're the glow in the dark ones, I hate gimmicky stuff lol
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI will perpetuate this current rumor and add that I talked to the owner at my local and he heard from a reliable source in Cali that there is definitely something going on with the whole F4 fiasco. Apparently the guy who created the formula, a “urethane scientist” or whatever you’d call him, wanted more money from DLX and they said no, so he said peace. And since DLX doesn’t know exactly what’s in the secret sauce, he has the upper hand.[close]
Was in my local yesterday talked to the crew and they were told by their DLX rep some machinery in the factory went down and took a while to repair which created a back log in manufacturing and created the shortage of F4. DLX could just be blowing smoke while they get it sorted out, or could be the real reason and the rumor spawned from the shortage. The silence from the DLX dudes that post here is definitely saying something.
Someone man up and hit Jim T. on insta.[close]
That's a better stance to take than "we're being held hostage by the urethane scientist". Dude's contract must be up (I hope he was under one as it was exclusive') and he wants more of that F4 cheddar seeing it is the most popular wheel on the market...hell BONES made natural looking wheels just to give the masses a different rusty potato to try and compete ffs. Haters gonna hate but the 99a Easy Streets are great wheels (looks like bones is dropping that and the 'natural' moniker and just using 99a STFs these days).
I just skate mini logo wheels now anyway. Def don’t feel as good as F4s but they get the job done.Expand QuoteI love F4s but if they stopped being made I would have no problem switching to bones.[close]
Stf gang all day
But really 99a gang all day
I will skate almost any 99a formula wheel
Or bones 100
I like the classic ole, 100’s, ricta naturals, spitfire classic, board brand wheels, pig, even oj
Can't believe I actually thought we'd burn fourever.
Someone get me some answers before I stock up on wheels apocalypse style.
Checked two local shops over the last two days and both are really low on F4s and trying hard to get more. Both had different explanations ranging from equipment issues to the shipping guy got fired....
This could be an elaborate marketing plan as I am also very close to stocking up on some back up sets....
What he really meant was the formula blueprints have been obtained and the source...neutralized.
the_unknown_soldier is the real MVP
Expand Quotethe_unknown_soldier is the real MVP[close]
This.
Also jim rules for responding like a man in the DM’s
A lot of people would be leaving that shit on seen.
Another reason why dlx is the best
Expand QuoteExpand Quotethe_unknown_soldier is the real MVP[close]
This.
Also jim rules for responding like a man in the DM’s
A lot of people would be leaving that shit on seen.
Another reason why dlx is the best[close]
I like to imagine that DM responses from industry people on stuff like this are because our shitposting is just too powerful and they have to throw in the towel before everyone starts believing a rumor that F4 production is moving to a factory on the moon.
hmmm so if ppl at dlx are reading this thread...
PLEASE MAKE A 60MM CONICAL FULL F4 IN THE STANDARD LINEUP
PLEASE MAKE ALL THUNDERS COME WITH WHITE BUSHINGS AND SILVER HARDWARE
PLEASE MAKE BLEACHED/PURE WHITE FORMULA FOURS
Imagine this fiasco happening before ig. People would be looting and rioting skateshops around the world.
Any good bad feedback about the tablets?? U guys who got them like them?
Slap was here before ig.Expand QuoteImagine this fiasco happening before ig. People would be looting and rioting skateshops around the world.[close]
But would word get out as fast? Hmmm...
Slap was here before ig.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteImagine this fiasco happening before ig. People would be looting and rioting skateshops around the world.[close]
But would word get out as fast? Hmmm...[close]
Any good bad feedback about the tablets?? U guys who got them like them?
Expand QuoteAny good bad feedback about the tablets?? U guys who got them like them?[close]
I don't really like them to be honest. Feels harder to get into slappies and unless you really need the wider contact patch right away because you skate rougher spots, I don't see any advantage they have over radial slims which feel more nimble, are more agile in a sense with the slight taper, and lock in just as well.
Expand QuoteAny good bad feedback about the tablets?? U guys who got them like them?[close]
I don't really like them to be honest. Feels harder to get into slappies and unless you really need the wider contact patch right away because you skate rougher spots, I don't see any advantage they have over radial slims which feel more nimble, are more agile in a sense with the slight taper, and lock in just as well.
Classics or radial slims👌
Expand QuoteClassics or radial slims👌[close]
I haven’t had classics in a few years now that I think about it. I think if I see a set of 53’s next time I’m at vu I might grab a set
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteClassics or radial slims👌[close]
I haven’t had classics in a few years now that I think about it. I think if I see a set of 53’s next time I’m at vu I might grab a set[close]
He just posted a DLX re-up
Thanks. glad I skipped the tablets than. Ordered some f4 radials never had f4s before looking forward to it.they last twice as long as any other wheelbrand, slide in all the right places and are pretty much impossible to flatspot.
they last twice as long as any other wheelbrand, slide in all the right places and are pretty much impossible to flatspot.Expand QuoteThanks. glad I skipped the tablets than. Ordered some f4 radials never had f4s before looking forward to it.[close]
It’s going to be hard for you to skate anything else now ☺️
Thanks. glad I skipped the tablets than. Ordered some f4 radials never had f4s before looking forward to it.99 or 101?
are radials the best shape?
I think they might be.
those oski 57mm radial 99a must b real nice
are radials the best shape?
I think they might be.
those oski 57mm radial 99a must b real nice
Expand Quoteare radials the best shape?
I think they might be.
those oski 57mm radial 99a must b real nice[close]
conical fulls
And I like they slip to grip ratio far better on F4s also.
Expand Quoteare radials the best shape?
I think they might be.
those oski 57mm radial 99a must b real nice[close]
conical fulls
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tt0Fq8kmTA
Expand QuoteExpand Quoteare radials the best shape?
I think they might be.
those oski 57mm radial 99a must b real nice[close]
conical fulls
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tt0Fq8kmTA[close]
This. I drank the wide wheel kool-aid hard, (other than radials) other shapes just dainty.
are radials the best shape?
I think they might be.
99 or 101?Expand QuoteThanks. glad I skipped the tablets than. Ordered some f4 radials never had f4s before looking forward to it.[close]
50mm 101 F4 Classics are the best wheel ever made.Expand QuoteClassics or radial slims👌[close]
I haven’t had classics in a few years now that I think about it. I think if I see a set of 53’s next time I’m at vu I might grab a set
I ordered some of the Quartersnacks Formula Fours and I was very pleasantly surprised to open the box and find an airfreshener that made my wheels smell like a snack :)
Expand QuoteI ordered some of the Quartersnacks Formula Fours and I was very pleasantly surprised to open the box and find an airfreshener that made my wheels smell like a snack :)[close]
Where did you order them from ?
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI ordered some of the Quartersnacks Formula Fours and I was very pleasantly surprised to open the box and find an airfreshener that made my wheels smell like a snack :)[close]
Where did you order them from ?[close]
https://www.cowtownskateboards.com/skateboarding/parts/wheels/spitfire/f4-99-sf-x-qs-classic-wheels-white-pid-53308
ok so, I’ve had a hook up with sone other wheel brands for the past 5 years or so , but... it just ran its course. So I picked up my first set of formula 4’s today . I went with the AA conical full 55mm. I’ve heard everyone rave about them , ready to see if they live up to the hype
Expand Quoteok so, I’ve had a hook up with sone other wheel brands for the past 5 years or so , but... it just ran its course. So I picked up my first set of formula 4’s today . I went with the AA conical full 55mm. I’ve heard everyone rave about them , ready to see if they live up to the hype[close]
In my opinion that very wheel is the actual Perfect Wheel.
Expand QuoteExpand Quoteok so, I’ve had a hook up with sone other wheel brands for the past 5 years or so , but... it just ran its course. So I picked up my first set of formula 4’s today . I went with the AA conical full 55mm. I’ve heard everyone rave about them , ready to see if they live up to the hype[close]
In my opinion that very wheel is the actual Perfect Wheel.[close]
Kindly explain your position on this. Why this over a Radial Slim or a Classic? Genuinely curious, just getting into wheel madness.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quoteok so, I’ve had a hook up with sone other wheel brands for the past 5 years or so , but... it just ran its course. So I picked up my first set of formula 4’s today . I went with the AA conical full 55mm. I’ve heard everyone rave about them , ready to see if they live up to the hype[close]
In my opinion that very wheel is the actual Perfect Wheel.[close]
Kindly explain your position on this. Why this over a Radial Slim or a Classic? Genuinely curious, just getting into wheel madness.[close]
ive tried; classic, classic wide, classic thin, radial, raidal slim and conical fulls all in 99duro- and i always prefer the classic shape. i mostly skate street and some parks. everytime ive tried anything that isnt a classic i always wanna go back to what i've used.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quoteok so, I’ve had a hook up with sone other wheel brands for the past 5 years or so , but... it just ran its course. So I picked up my first set of formula 4’s today . I went with the AA conical full 55mm. I’ve heard everyone rave about them , ready to see if they live up to the hype[close]
In my opinion that very wheel is the actual Perfect Wheel.[close]
Kindly explain your position on this. Why this over a Radial Slim or a Classic? Genuinely curious, just getting into wheel madness.[close]
ive tried; classic, classic wide, classic thin, radial, raidal slim and conical fulls all in 99duro- and i always prefer the classic shape. i mostly skate street and some parks. everytime ive tried anything that isnt a classic i always wanna go back to what i've used.[close]
I feel the same way but Radial Slims get a pass (don't see the need to ride Conicals, let alone 'full' wheels).
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quoteok so, I’ve had a hook up with sone other wheel brands for the past 5 years or so , but... it just ran its course. So I picked up my first set of formula 4’s today . I went with the AA conical full 55mm. I’ve heard everyone rave about them , ready to see if they live up to the hype[close]
In my opinion that very wheel is the actual Perfect Wheel.[close]
Kindly explain your position on this. Why this over a Radial Slim or a Classic? Genuinely curious, just getting into wheel madness.[close]
ive tried; classic, classic wide, classic thin, radial, raidal slim and conical fulls all in 99duro- and i always prefer the classic shape. i mostly skate street and some parks. everytime ive tried anything that isnt a classic i always wanna go back to what i've used.[close]
I feel the same way but Radial Slims get a pass (don't see the need to ride Conicals, let alone 'full' wheels).[close]
If you live in an area with fairly smooth ground or spend most of your time in the park then classics or anything else on offer is probably fine.
However if you live in an area with a little more adversity on the surface, Conicals help mitigate that roughness.
Expand QuoteExpand Quoteok so, I’ve had a hook up with sone other wheel brands for the past 5 years or so , but... it just ran its course. So I picked up my first set of formula 4’s today . I went with the AA conical full 55mm. I’ve heard everyone rave about them , ready to see if they live up to the hype[close]
In my opinion that very wheel is the actual Perfect Wheel.[close]
Kindly explain your position on this. Why this over a Radial Slim or a Classic? Genuinely curious, just getting into wheel madness.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quoteok so, I’ve had a hook up with sone other wheel brands for the past 5 years or so , but... it just ran its course. So I picked up my first set of formula 4’s today . I went with the AA conical full 55mm. I’ve heard everyone rave about them , ready to see if they live up to the hype[close]
In my opinion that very wheel is the actual Perfect Wheel.[close]
Kindly explain your position on this. Why this over a Radial Slim or a Classic? Genuinely curious, just getting into wheel madness.[close]
ive tried; classic, classic wide, classic thin, radial, raidal slim and conical fulls all in 99duro- and i always prefer the classic shape. i mostly skate street and some parks. everytime ive tried anything that isnt a classic i always wanna go back to what i've used.[close]
I feel the same way but Radial Slims get a pass (don't see the need to ride Conicals, let alone 'full' wheels).[close]
If you live in an area with fairly smooth ground or spend most of your time in the park then classics or anything else on offer is probably fine.
However if you live in an area with a little more adversity on the surface, Conicals help mitigate that roughness.
Radial slims are my favorite wheel, basically waiting for the tablets I have now to be done to get another set, although I’m thinking about giving a set of f4 classics again
Should I try riding 101 radial slims for the 6-months-of-winter indoor park madness I'm about to embark on?
101 radial slims are sliiiiiickkk.... I credit them with learning backside power slides. But I tend to go 99s or even classic formula for winter. But I'm old and nervous so don't listen to me.
Expand QuoteRadial slims are my favorite wheel, basically waiting for the tablets I have now to be done to get another set, although I’m thinking about giving a set of f4 classics again[close]
How do you like the Tablets? Other than being smoother on crusty ground is there anything else that you really like about them when compared to Radial Slims? I'm sure they lock into 50/50s and nose/tail grinds really well but I'm guessing the rounded edge of the Radial Slims makes them better for Crooks, Feebles/Smiths, all slappies, wallrides, and powerslides/reverts. Anything I'm missing? I might buy a set of them (for the larger of my two street setups) if I can't find Conical Fulls in the size or duro I need. Seems like they are overstocked on Tablets but understocked on Conical Fulls.Expand QuoteShould I try riding 101 radial slims for the 6-months-of-winter indoor park madness I'm about to embark on?[close]
Absolutely not, go with 99s. No reason to go harder for an indoor park and honestly I think the 99s would be better at most outdoor spots as well. I’m riding 52mm 99a Radial Slims and they’re awesome everywhere but Skatelite transition. I can’t imagine 101as. 99as are manageable but they are still too slick on Skatelite in my opinion.
They are, however, awesome everywhere other than the tranny sections. I’m loving them on Skatelite/wood boxes and ledges. There’s no reason to go 101a as these 99as slide just fine. Even backside boardslides and front lips on boxes glide with no resistance for me.Expand Quote101 radial slims are sliiiiiickkk.... I credit them with learning backside power slides. But I tend to go 99s or even classic formula for winter. But I'm old and nervous so don't listen to me.[close]
Nah, you’re right dude. I even find the 99a F4s too slick for me on Skatelite transition. If I could only have one wheel I’d stick with them but I’m going to try to find another wheel for Skatelite bowls and minis. The 99as also work really well at my local outdoor concrete park on hot summer days. I mainly skate ledges, manny pads and banks/hips & I usually ride Thunders which have short base plates. I’ve never had an issue with them not being slick enough to power through a slides or reverts. Honestly they seems to slide better than my 103a STFs. They’re very predictable and consistent with how they slide as well.
I’ll probably try some in 101s this summer but I really doubt that I’ll prefer them over the 99s.
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If anyone is wondering what the dimensions of the Radial Slims look like here ya go. I’ve only hand two actual full sessions on them so they’re not worn down at all.
52mm Radial Slims, Thunder Hollow Light II 147s (8.0” Axles), 8.0” x 32.375” Quasi deck, & Pennies for scale.
(https://i.imgur.com/MzNBmqS.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Llf5SQ2.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/VH7KUyX.jpg)
Those AA conicals fulls be looking nice as fuck.
might have to do the same, Christmas is coming. so maybe they'll have a sale.Expand QuoteThose AA conicals fulls be looking nice as fuck.[close]
Already copped a set to wait for spring. 8)
WB is 14.25 on that Quasi. Honestly I find Quasi’s 8.0s to have the best shape. I wish they had wider boards in the same dimensions... it’s super frustrating. I’d kill for an 8.25-8.5 with the same shape. All their larger sizes with a 14.25 WB have shorter tails and overall lengths.
This board is the exact same shape. I got lucky with a mellow concave but a decent height to the tail and nose. Honestly for an 8” deck it is hard to beat for my preferences. It feels much more comfortable and roomy than most boards this size. My size 12 foot doesn’t feel too large like they do with a lot of boards this size. I think I’m going to order another Quasi 8.0 but step up to 148 Team Hollow Thunders so it sits higher and my Radial Slims are flush. I’d probably step up to 53mms as well.
https://www.tactics.com/quasi-skateboards/dayton-face-i-80-skateboard-deck
Expand QuoteWB is 14.25 on that Quasi. Honestly I find Quasi’s 8.0s to have the best shape. I wish they had wider boards in the same dimensions... it’s super frustrating. I’d kill for an 8.25-8.5 with the same shape. All their larger sizes with a 14.25 WB have shorter tails and overall lengths.
This board is the exact same shape. I got lucky with a mellow concave but a decent height to the tail and nose. Honestly for an 8” deck it is hard to beat for my preferences. It feels much more comfortable and roomy than most boards this size. My size 12 foot doesn’t feel too large like they do with a lot of boards this size. I think I’m going to order another Quasi 8.0 but step up to 148 Team Hollow Thunders so it sits higher and my Radial Slims are flush. I’d probably step up to 53mms as well.
https://www.tactics.com/quasi-skateboards/dayton-face-i-80-skateboard-deck[close]
8.0 x 14.25 sounds like a good ratio, I rode a Habitat 8.18 x 32 x 14.25 with a mellow concave. The width felt great but too long to flip comfortably. Setup a 7.75 board last week and there is no way I can ride that size anymore; way to squirrely coupled with the 14" WB felt too short.
the 32.375 length does look a little heft though.
Looks like I'm getting myself some Quasi boards for xmas!
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteWB is 14.25 on that Quasi. Honestly I find Quasi’s 8.0s to have the best shape. I wish they had wider boards in the same dimensions... it’s super frustrating. I’d kill for an 8.25-8.5 with the same shape. All their larger sizes with a 14.25 WB have shorter tails and overall lengths.
This board is the exact same shape. I got lucky with a mellow concave but a decent height to the tail and nose. Honestly for an 8” deck it is hard to beat for my preferences. It feels much more comfortable and roomy than most boards this size. My size 12 foot doesn’t feel too large like they do with a lot of boards this size. I think I’m going to order another Quasi 8.0 but step up to 148 Team Hollow Thunders so it sits higher and my Radial Slims are flush. I’d probably step up to 53mms as well.
https://www.tactics.com/quasi-skateboards/dayton-face-i-80-skateboard-deck[close]
8.0 x 14.25 sounds like a good ratio, I rode a Habitat 8.18 x 32 x 14.25 with a mellow concave. The width felt great but too long to flip comfortably. Setup a 7.75 board last week and there is no way I can ride that size anymore; way to squirrely coupled with the 14" WB felt too short.
the 32.375 length does look a little heft though.
Looks like I'm getting myself some Quasi boards for xmas![close]
I think you’ll like it. The wide kicks helps with the length a ton. I couldn’t imagine narrow ass Baker Boy kicks on a board this long but with this shape I find it perfect. I’m 5’11/6’ish tall so I’m not super tall or short and I find it very comfortable. Habitat has a 8.125 NASA board in a similar shape that I might try.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteWB is 14.25 on that Quasi. Honestly I find Quasi’s 8.0s to have the best shape. I wish they had wider boards in the same dimensions... it’s super frustrating. I’d kill for an 8.25-8.5 with the same shape. All their larger sizes with a 14.25 WB have shorter tails and overall lengths.
This board is the exact same shape. I got lucky with a mellow concave but a decent height to the tail and nose. Honestly for an 8” deck it is hard to beat for my preferences. It feels much more comfortable and roomy than most boards this size. My size 12 foot doesn’t feel too large like they do with a lot of boards this size. I think I’m going to order another Quasi 8.0 but step up to 148 Team Hollow Thunders so it sits higher and my Radial Slims are flush. I’d probably step up to 53mms as well.
https://www.tactics.com/quasi-skateboards/dayton-face-i-80-skateboard-deck[close]
8.0 x 14.25 sounds like a good ratio, I rode a Habitat 8.18 x 32 x 14.25 with a mellow concave. The width felt great but too long to flip comfortably. Setup a 7.75 board last week and there is no way I can ride that size anymore; way to squirrely coupled with the 14" WB felt too short.
the 32.375 length does look a little heft though.
Looks like I'm getting myself some Quasi boards for xmas![close]
I think you’ll like it. The wide kicks helps with the length a ton. I couldn’t imagine narrow ass Baker Boy kicks on a board this long but with this shape I find it perfect. I’m 5’11/6’ish tall so I’m not super tall or short and I find it very comfortable. Habitat has a 8.125 NASA board in a similar shape that I might try.[close]
I'm 5 foot 6 inches so thanks for making me feel tiny, you dick. (JK of course)
I'll get one of the Quasi boards over xmas, been looking for a board with a larger nose and tail.
The older Dwindle boards from the 2000s and Mini Logos used to have tiny tails; rode extremely well for a short period until you got razor tail then they were impossible to skate afterwards.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteWB is 14.25 on that Quasi. Honestly I find Quasi’s 8.0s to have the best shape. I wish they had wider boards in the same dimensions... it’s super frustrating. I’d kill for an 8.25-8.5 with the same shape. All their larger sizes with a 14.25 WB have shorter tails and overall lengths.
This board is the exact same shape. I got lucky with a mellow concave but a decent height to the tail and nose. Honestly for an 8” deck it is hard to beat for my preferences. It feels much more comfortable and roomy than most boards this size. My size 12 foot doesn’t feel too large like they do with a lot of boards this size. I think I’m going to order another Quasi 8.0 but step up to 148 Team Hollow Thunders so it sits higher and my Radial Slims are flush. I’d probably step up to 53mms as well.
https://www.tactics.com/quasi-skateboards/dayton-face-i-80-skateboard-deck[close]
8.0 x 14.25 sounds like a good ratio, I rode a Habitat 8.18 x 32 x 14.25 with a mellow concave. The width felt great but too long to flip comfortably. Setup a 7.75 board last week and there is no way I can ride that size anymore; way to squirrely coupled with the 14" WB felt too short.
the 32.375 length does look a little heft though.
Looks like I'm getting myself some Quasi boards for xmas![close]
I think you’ll like it. The wide kicks helps with the length a ton. I couldn’t imagine narrow ass Baker Boy kicks on a board this long but with this shape I find it perfect. I’m 5’11/6’ish tall so I’m not super tall or short and I find it very comfortable. Habitat has a 8.125 NASA board in a similar shape that I might try.[close]
I'm 5 foot 6 inches so thanks for making me feel tiny, you dick. (JK of course)
I'll get one of the Quasi boards over xmas, been looking for a board with a larger nose and tail.
The older Dwindle boards from the 2000s and Mini Logos used to have tiny tails; rode extremely well for a short period until you got razor tail then they were impossible to skate afterwards.[close]
Bro those Dwindles did razor tail like crazy... 9-10 year old me can relate. Look at my fucking nose in this picture... I saw it semi-recently and it reminded me of how shitty that wood was. I was just WAY too big of a Chris Cole/Chief fan at the time to switch woodshops though. When I switched to being a Dr. Z fanboy and started riding Zoo York (Chapman) boards a couple of years later it was a night and day difference. Those things kept their pop and lasted forever.
(https://i.imgur.com/pBJgNjC.jpg)
Found all of these in my box of skate stuff in my storage. Forgot I had these radial slims. I remember getting the F4 classics not too ago and then I just threw them in the box.
Never rode the slims yet so I’m gonna set those up.
(https://i.ibb.co/FbZP0K2/83-D50300-5930-4787-AA59-91-DAE24716-F1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/kgbd9xj)
Found all of these in my box of skate stuff in my storage. Forgot I had these radial slims. I remember getting the F4 classics not too ago and then I just threw them in the box.
Never rode the slims yet so I’m gonna set those up.
(https://i.ibb.co/FbZP0K2/83-D50300-5930-4787-AA59-91-DAE24716-F1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/kgbd9xj)
Expand QuoteFound all of these in my box of skate stuff in my storage. Forgot I had these radial slims. I remember getting the F4 classics not too ago and then I just threw them in the box.
Never rode the slims yet so I’m gonna set those up.[close]
I'd trade you a brand new in package set of radial slims 101s 53 mm if you want a slightly harder duro...
Sorry to roast your setup but those wheels what the fuck?! Gross black wheelsExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteWB is 14.25 on that Quasi. Honestly I find Quasi’s 8.0s to have the best shape. I wish they had wider boards in the same dimensions... it’s super frustrating. I’d kill for an 8.25-8.5 with the same shape. All their larger sizes with a 14.25 WB have shorter tails and overall lengths.
This board is the exact same shape. I got lucky with a mellow concave but a decent height to the tail and nose. Honestly for an 8” deck it is hard to beat for my preferences. It feels much more comfortable and roomy than most boards this size. My size 12 foot doesn’t feel too large like they do with a lot of boards this size. I think I’m going to order another Quasi 8.0 but step up to 148 Team Hollow Thunders so it sits higher and my Radial Slims are flush. I’d probably step up to 53mms as well.
https://www.tactics.com/quasi-skateboards/dayton-face-i-80-skateboard-deck[close]
8.0 x 14.25 sounds like a good ratio, I rode a Habitat 8.18 x 32 x 14.25 with a mellow concave. The width felt great but too long to flip comfortably. Setup a 7.75 board last week and there is no way I can ride that size anymore; way to squirrely coupled with the 14" WB felt too short.
the 32.375 length does look a little heft though.
Looks like I'm getting myself some Quasi boards for xmas![close]
I think you’ll like it. The wide kicks helps with the length a ton. I couldn’t imagine narrow ass Baker Boy kicks on a board this long but with this shape I find it perfect. I’m 5’11/6’ish tall so I’m not super tall or short and I find it very comfortable. Habitat has a 8.125 NASA board in a similar shape that I might try.[close]
I'm 5 foot 6 inches so thanks for making me feel tiny, you dick. (JK of course)
I'll get one of the Quasi boards over xmas, been looking for a board with a larger nose and tail.
The older Dwindle boards from the 2000s and Mini Logos used to have tiny tails; rode extremely well for a short period until you got razor tail then they were impossible to skate afterwards.[close]
Bro those Dwindles did razor tail like crazy... 9-10 year old me can relate. Look at my fucking nose in this picture... I saw it semi-recently and it reminded me of how shitty that wood was. I was just WAY too big of a Chris Cole/Chief fan at the time to switch woodshops though. When I switched to being a Dr. Z fanboy and started riding Zoo York (Chapman) boards a couple of years later it was a night and day difference. Those things kept their pop and lasted forever.
(https://i.imgur.com/pBJgNjC.jpg)[close]
I used to be a sucker for Darkstar boards, at 7.75 the tails were incredibly short but very snappy while they lasted. Never realized the difference in woodshops until I rode my first Zero board, back when they were still pressed in Mexico.
Zered Basset was and is still a fucking G, City of Killer and Vicious Cycle is filled with so many Dr. Z banger; he always made his switch tricks look especially stylish.
Sorry to roast your setup but those wheels what the fuck?! Gross black wheelsExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteWB is 14.25 on that Quasi. Honestly I find Quasi’s 8.0s to have the best shape. I wish they had wider boards in the same dimensions... it’s super frustrating. I’d kill for an 8.25-8.5 with the same shape. All their larger sizes with a 14.25 WB have shorter tails and overall lengths.
This board is the exact same shape. I got lucky with a mellow concave but a decent height to the tail and nose. Honestly for an 8” deck it is hard to beat for my preferences. It feels much more comfortable and roomy than most boards this size. My size 12 foot doesn’t feel too large like they do with a lot of boards this size. I think I’m going to order another Quasi 8.0 but step up to 148 Team Hollow Thunders so it sits higher and my Radial Slims are flush. I’d probably step up to 53mms as well.
https://www.tactics.com/quasi-skateboards/dayton-face-i-80-skateboard-deck[close]
8.0 x 14.25 sounds like a good ratio, I rode a Habitat 8.18 x 32 x 14.25 with a mellow concave. The width felt great but too long to flip comfortably. Setup a 7.75 board last week and there is no way I can ride that size anymore; way to squirrely coupled with the 14" WB felt too short.
the 32.375 length does look a little heft though.
Looks like I'm getting myself some Quasi boards for xmas![close]
I think you’ll like it. The wide kicks helps with the length a ton. I couldn’t imagine narrow ass Baker Boy kicks on a board this long but with this shape I find it perfect. I’m 5’11/6’ish tall so I’m not super tall or short and I find it very comfortable. Habitat has a 8.125 NASA board in a similar shape that I might try.[close]
I'm 5 foot 6 inches so thanks for making me feel tiny, you dick. (JK of course)
I'll get one of the Quasi boards over xmas, been looking for a board with a larger nose and tail.
The older Dwindle boards from the 2000s and Mini Logos used to have tiny tails; rode extremely well for a short period until you got razor tail then they were impossible to skate afterwards.[close]
Bro those Dwindles did razor tail like crazy... 9-10 year old me can relate. Look at my fucking nose in this picture... I saw it semi-recently and it reminded me of how shitty that wood was. I was just WAY too big of a Chris Cole/Chief fan at the time to switch woodshops though. When I switched to being a Dr. Z fanboy and started riding Zoo York (Chapman) boards a couple of years later it was a night and day difference. Those things kept their pop and lasted forever.
(https://i.imgur.com/pBJgNjC.jpg)[close]
I used to be a sucker for Darkstar boards, at 7.75 the tails were incredibly short but very snappy while they lasted. Never realized the difference in woodshops until I rode my first Zero board, back when they were still pressed in Mexico.
Zered Basset was and is still a fucking G, City of Killer and Vicious Cycle is filled with so many Dr. Z banger; he always made his switch tricks look especially stylish.[close]
Sorry to roast your setup but those wheels what the fuck?! Gross black wheelsExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteWB is 14.25 on that Quasi. Honestly I find Quasi’s 8.0s to have the best shape. I wish they had wider boards in the same dimensions... it’s super frustrating. I’d kill for an 8.25-8.5 with the same shape. All their larger sizes with a 14.25 WB have shorter tails and overall lengths.
This board is the exact same shape. I got lucky with a mellow concave but a decent height to the tail and nose. Honestly for an 8” deck it is hard to beat for my preferences. It feels much more comfortable and roomy than most boards this size. My size 12 foot doesn’t feel too large like they do with a lot of boards this size. I think I’m going to order another Quasi 8.0 but step up to 148 Team Hollow Thunders so it sits higher and my Radial Slims are flush. I’d probably step up to 53mms as well.
https://www.tactics.com/quasi-skateboards/dayton-face-i-80-skateboard-deck[close]
8.0 x 14.25 sounds like a good ratio, I rode a Habitat 8.18 x 32 x 14.25 with a mellow concave. The width felt great but too long to flip comfortably. Setup a 7.75 board last week and there is no way I can ride that size anymore; way to squirrely coupled with the 14" WB felt too short.
the 32.375 length does look a little heft though.
Looks like I'm getting myself some Quasi boards for xmas![close]
I think you’ll like it. The wide kicks helps with the length a ton. I couldn’t imagine narrow ass Baker Boy kicks on a board this long but with this shape I find it perfect. I’m 5’11/6’ish tall so I’m not super tall or short and I find it very comfortable. Habitat has a 8.125 NASA board in a similar shape that I might try.[close]
I'm 5 foot 6 inches so thanks for making me feel tiny, you dick. (JK of course)
I'll get one of the Quasi boards over xmas, been looking for a board with a larger nose and tail.
The older Dwindle boards from the 2000s and Mini Logos used to have tiny tails; rode extremely well for a short period until you got razor tail then they were impossible to skate afterwards.[close]
Bro those Dwindles did razor tail like crazy... 9-10 year old me can relate. Look at my fucking nose in this picture... I saw it semi-recently and it reminded me of how shitty that wood was. I was just WAY too big of a Chris Cole/Chief fan at the time to switch woodshops though. When I switched to being a Dr. Z fanboy and started riding Zoo York (Chapman) boards a couple of years later it was a night and day difference. Those things kept their pop and lasted forever.
(https://i.imgur.com/pBJgNjC.jpg)[close]
I used to be a sucker for Darkstar boards, at 7.75 the tails were incredibly short but very snappy while they lasted. Never realized the difference in woodshops until I rode my first Zero board, back when they were still pressed in Mexico.
Zered Basset was and is still a fucking G, City of Killer and Vicious Cycle is filled with so many Dr. Z banger; he always made his switch tricks look especially stylish.[close]
Expand QuoteSorry to roast your setup but those wheels what the fuck?! Gross black wheelsExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteWB is 14.25 on that Quasi. Honestly I find Quasi’s 8.0s to have the best shape. I wish they had wider boards in the same dimensions... it’s super frustrating. I’d kill for an 8.25-8.5 with the same shape. All their larger sizes with a 14.25 WB have shorter tails and overall lengths.
This board is the exact same shape. I got lucky with a mellow concave but a decent height to the tail and nose. Honestly for an 8” deck it is hard to beat for my preferences. It feels much more comfortable and roomy than most boards this size. My size 12 foot doesn’t feel too large like they do with a lot of boards this size. I think I’m going to order another Quasi 8.0 but step up to 148 Team Hollow Thunders so it sits higher and my Radial Slims are flush. I’d probably step up to 53mms as well.
https://www.tactics.com/quasi-skateboards/dayton-face-i-80-skateboard-deck[close]
8.0 x 14.25 sounds like a good ratio, I rode a Habitat 8.18 x 32 x 14.25 with a mellow concave. The width felt great but too long to flip comfortably. Setup a 7.75 board last week and there is no way I can ride that size anymore; way to squirrely coupled with the 14" WB felt too short.
the 32.375 length does look a little heft though.
Looks like I'm getting myself some Quasi boards for xmas![close]
I think you’ll like it. The wide kicks helps with the length a ton. I couldn’t imagine narrow ass Baker Boy kicks on a board this long but with this shape I find it perfect. I’m 5’11/6’ish tall so I’m not super tall or short and I find it very comfortable. Habitat has a 8.125 NASA board in a similar shape that I might try.[close]
I'm 5 foot 6 inches so thanks for making me feel tiny, you dick. (JK of course)
I'll get one of the Quasi boards over xmas, been looking for a board with a larger nose and tail.
The older Dwindle boards from the 2000s and Mini Logos used to have tiny tails; rode extremely well for a short period until you got razor tail then they were impossible to skate afterwards.[close]
Bro those Dwindles did razor tail like crazy... 9-10 year old me can relate. Look at my fucking nose in this picture... I saw it semi-recently and it reminded me of how shitty that wood was. I was just WAY too big of a Chris Cole/Chief fan at the time to switch woodshops though. When I switched to being a Dr. Z fanboy and started riding Zoo York (Chapman) boards a couple of years later it was a night and day difference. Those things kept their pop and lasted forever.
(https://i.imgur.com/pBJgNjC.jpg)[close]
I used to be a sucker for Darkstar boards, at 7.75 the tails were incredibly short but very snappy while they lasted. Never realized the difference in woodshops until I rode my first Zero board, back when they were still pressed in Mexico.
Zered Basset was and is still a fucking G, City of Killer and Vicious Cycle is filled with so many Dr. Z banger; he always made his switch tricks look especially stylish.[close][close]
They were a Christmas present and I was 9 years old lol. I think my parents got me them since they matched the deck I asked for. They’re the only colored wheels I’ve ever had and they flat spotted quick.
Hey y'all-
I'm trying to I.D. the durometer for these set of wheels I bought used on a complete, but all the logos are essentially worn off. I know for sure they're classic 52mm Huf x Haroshi x Spitfire wheels. I found the image attached but noticed no durometer is stated on these wheels. THey're probably 7-14 years old is my guess? Anybody have an idea?
https://skateparkoftampa.com/spot/productimages/colors/3_55521.jpg
God I hate F4 101... What I've done... :'(
Definitely not down with f4 101's unless it's park skating on a good day. Otherwise they make me feel like shit lol..Thhey make me feel way less confident.
I liked the slide and noise they made but were too much for anything other than new parks. If you can handle them in the raggedy ass streets more power to you. I need to keep my few remaining teeth, 99 all the way.Thhey make me feel way less confident.Expand QuoteDefinitely not down with f4 101's unless it's park skating on a good day. Otherwise they make me feel like shit lol..[close]
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Sorry to roast your setup but those wheels what the fuck?! Gross black wheels[close]
We all went through this phase in our lives
Just picked up a set of the 99A classics. It’s been a while since I had that shape so kinda wanted to go back
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Sorry to roast your setup but those wheels what the fuck?! Gross black wheels[close]
We all went through this phase in our lives[close]
Still going through it.
They were like $15 during that crazy zumiez sale a few months ago. If it were an option I'd pick white, but I'm not going to say no to half price 54mm F4 conical fulls. At that price they could be hot pink and have pictures of saggy old ballsacks on them for all I care, they still skate like F4s and that's all that really matters.
Definitely not down with f4 101's unless it's park skating on a good day. Otherwise they make me feel like shit lol..
crazy question but do F4's "break in" or dare I say "soften" at all? I don't hit smooth parks and the streets are awful by me. Found 99 conicals too jarring. but im also not used to themYeah, they might soften up if you soak them in water. I gave some to a friend a few years back who leaves his board outside in super humid air and his old 101s are much softer than my 99s. They won't soften on their own through use alone, though.
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Sorry to roast your setup but those wheels what the fuck?! Gross black wheels[close]
We all went through this phase in our lives[close]
Still going through it.
They were like $15 during that crazy zumiez sale a few months ago. If it were an option I'd pick white, but I'm not going to say no to half price 54mm F4 conical fulls. At that price they could be hot pink and have pictures of saggy old ballsacks on them for all I care, they still skate like F4s and that's all that really matters.[close]
I respect your reasoning around this, it’s valid, but saying all that matters is that they’re F4s is like the graphics don’t matter statement.
Look, true, but I gotta at least tell myself I look cool, because I sure as shit ain’t gonna hear it from anyone else
crazy question but do F4's "break in" or dare I say "soften" at all? I don't hit smooth parks and the streets are awful by me. Found 99 conicals too jarring. but im also not used to them
A couple of hill bombs will do it.
Expand Quotecrazy question but do F4's "break in" or dare I say "soften" at all? I don't hit smooth parks and the streets are awful by me. Found 99 conicals too jarring. but im also not used to them[close]
How long have you been using them? They need a few sessions to 'break in' for sure.
solid will have to do that. Some mellow hills to get some slides in.Expand QuoteExpand Quotecrazy question but do F4's "break in" or dare I say "soften" at all? I don't hit smooth parks and the streets are awful by me. Found 99 conicals too jarring. but im also not used to them[close]
How long have you been using them? They need a few sessions to 'break in' for sure.[close]
What I love about F4 99s is that they feel great out the gate, but honestly they only get better once broken in. If you're not used to the conicals yet, just keep skating them. Then you'll never be able to change.
Almost pulled the trigger on some 54mm F4 tablets yesterday but they were 101 and that doesn’t work for me. I’ll just wait it out until the shop gets some F4 classics in 54mm 99a.You're smarter than me, I wanted to try radial slims badly but they only had 101 at the time, I got them an son probably regretting it now.
what shape for an old man skating bowls?
i don’t do flip tricks or skate rough terrain anymore, just like to pump around medium size bowls, so wheels last forever, i loved my rainskates 57mm 98a, round cuts but they’re beat
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i don’t do flip tricks or skate rough terrain anymore, just like to pump around medium size bowls, so wheels last forever, i loved my rainskates 57mm 98a, round cuts but they’re beat[close]
I have some F4 conical fulls in 57mms, they're grosso's wheel, I bet those would be good.
what shape for an old man skating bowls?
i don’t do flip tricks or skate rough terrain anymore, just like to pump around medium size bowls, so wheels last forever, i loved my rainskates 57mm 98a, round cuts but they’re beat
Expand QuoteExpand Quotewhat shape for an old man skating bowls?
i don’t do flip tricks or skate rough terrain anymore, just like to pump around medium size bowls, so wheels last forever, i loved my rainskates 57mm 98a, round cuts but they’re beat[close]
I have some F4 conical fulls in 57mms, they're grosso's wheel, I bet those would be good.[close]
ya 56 conical full is what i was thinkin
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quotewhat shape for an old man skating bowls?
i don’t do flip tricks or skate rough terrain anymore, just like to pump around medium size bowls, so wheels last forever, i loved my rainskates 57mm 98a, round cuts but they’re beat[close]
I have some F4 conical fulls in 57mms, they're grosso's wheel, I bet those would be good.[close]
ya 56 conical full is what i was thinkin[close]
I have f4 99 conical fulls in 56 and 58. Would suggest the 58 if the board is 10in plus.
Just got tablets because the F4 selection wasn't great and I was buying a complete. I do have a pair of F4 classics on ice though. Trying to learn slappies this winter should I stay away from the tablets for now?Yes
Just got tablets because the F4 selection wasn't great and I was buying a complete. I do have a pair of F4 classics on ice though. Trying to learn slappies this winter should I stay away from the tablets for now?
Expand Quotewhat shape for an old man skating bowls?
i don’t do flip tricks or skate rough terrain anymore, just like to pump around medium size bowls, so wheels last forever, i loved my rainskates 57mm 98a, round cuts but they’re beat[close]
TBH if I was just skating bowls I'd probably go with bones 100s or SPF rather than formula 4s. Bones stick better to slippery concrete.
Just got tablets because the F4 selection wasn't great and I was buying a complete. I do have a pair of F4 classics on ice though. Trying to learn slappies this winter should I stay away from the tablets for now?
I’ve been on the tablets for 6 months . Pretty much all I got is slappies and I haven’t had any issues , i lone em . I would be more concerned with looser trucks then wheelsExpand QuoteJust got tablets because the F4 selection wasn't great and I was buying a complete. I do have a pair of F4 classics on ice though. Trying to learn slappies this winter should I stay away from the tablets for now?[close]
I’m not incredible at slappies, but I did find the tablets to be a little more work. Get get a good angle and decent speed and you got that shit.
I hope they put out more conical full f4's in white. Not really stoked on the blue and greens since I am an old and definitely don't want black.
I hope they put out more conical full f4's in white. Not really stoked on the blue and greens since I am an old and definitely don't want black.
Expand QuoteI hope they put out more conical full f4's in white. Not really stoked on the blue and greens since I am an old and definitely don't want black.[close]
You, me and everyone else agrees. Especially in 54mm 99a. You can find the 52mm 99a Jamie Foy model everywhere but I don’t want a wheel that wide in a 52...
If you’re into 52s I believe Zumiez and Skatewarehouse has them in stock still. Maybe it was Zumiez and Tactics but I think it was the first combo.
Also fuck whoever is buying up all the 52 and 53mm 99a Radial Slims. That’s my wheel!
Loving that colourway, which Bones wheels shape would be the most similar?
Edit: $15 for lightly used 52mm 99 Conicals, worth it?
Skateshops are getting the f4 conical fulls neckface rowan wheels in 53mm and 55mm. Both 99a. I know some of you guys have trouble finding that size so keep a look out.looking good and thicc
^Buy those for science
looking good and thiccExpand QuoteSkateshops are getting the f4 conical fulls neckface rowan wheels in 53mm and 55mm. Both 99a. I know some of you guys have trouble finding that size so keep a look out.[close]
https://www.instagram.com/p/B5tpJkWlrC7/?igshid=deaf6frq87wv
A dude came into my local recently. He claimed to be a former chemist for Spitfire and he had his own wheels to sell. He said that they were his version of F4’s. They looked like F4’s. The shop got a set but haven’t skated them yet.
Anyone hear of anything like this?
I did hear a rumor they fired the guy that created the F4’s basically.
Expand QuoteA dude came into my local recently. He claimed to be a former chemist for Spitfire and he had his own wheels to sell. He said that they were his version of F4’s. They looked like F4’s. The shop got a set but haven’t skated them yet.
Anyone hear of anything like this?
I did hear a rumor they fired the guy that created the F4’s basically.[close]
I can tell stories too man
Expand Quotelooking good and thiccExpand QuoteSkateshops are getting the f4 conical fulls neckface rowan wheels in 53mm and 55mm. Both 99a. I know some of you guys have trouble finding that size so keep a look out.[close]
https://www.instagram.com/p/B5tpJkWlrC7/?igshid=deaf6frq87wv[close]
heard radial slims were supposed to be with this release. which ones are they?
A dude came into my local recently. He claimed to be a former chemist for Spitfire and he had his own wheels to sell. He said that they were his version of F4’s. They looked like F4’s. The shop got a set but haven’t skated them yet.Waiting for an update on this, curiosity is killing me
Anyone hear of anything like this?
I did hear a rumor they fired the guy that created the F4’s basically.
spankys classic, rowan conical full, saying kader are radial hereExpand QuoteExpand Quotelooking good and thiccExpand QuoteSkateshops are getting the f4 conical fulls neckface rowan wheels in 53mm and 55mm. Both 99a. I know some of you guys have trouble finding that size so keep a look out.[close]
https://www.instagram.com/p/B5tpJkWlrC7/?igshid=deaf6frq87wv[close]
heard radial slims were supposed to be with this release. which ones are they?[close]
Aren’t the Rowan’s the radial slims? I could be way off.
And Camel Filters, you sayin those are gonna be coming in 55? Daddy like...
A dude came into my local recently. He claimed to be a former chemist for Spitfire and he had his own wheels to sell. He said that they were his version of F4’s. They looked like F4’s. The shop got a set but haven’t skated them yet.
Anyone hear of anything like this?
I did hear a rumor they fired the guy that created the F4’s basically.
Loophole wheels were at least at some point claimed to be from the F4 scientist guy by someone on here. And the rumor that he’s of Spitfire has been going on for at least a year and that is the reason for the recent F4 shortages. Nothing’s been confirmed though. I think concerned_parent took it insta like a man and asked Jim T and he said the shortage was due to some issues at the facility or something like that.it was unknown soldier.
it was unknown soldier.Expand QuoteLoophole wheels were at least at some point claimed to be from the F4 scientist guy by someone on here. And the rumor that he’s of Spitfire has been going on for at least a year and that is the reason for the recent F4 shortages. Nothing’s been confirmed though. I think concerned_parent took it insta like a man and asked Jim T and he said the shortage was due to some issues at the facility or something like that.[close]
all good homie.Expand Quoteit was unknown soldier.Expand QuoteLoophole wheels were at least at some point claimed to be from the F4 scientist guy by someone on here. And the rumor that he’s of Spitfire has been going on for at least a year and that is the reason for the recent F4 shortages. Nothing’s been confirmed though. I think concerned_parent took it insta like a man and asked Jim T and he said the shortage was due to some issues at the facility or something like that.[close][close]
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Loophole wheels were at least at some point claimed to be from the F4 scientist guy by someone on here. And the rumor that he’s of Spitfire has been going on for at least a year and that is the reason for the recent F4 shortages. Nothing’s been confirmed though. I think concerned_parent took it insta like a man and asked Jim T and he said the shortage was due to some issues at the facility or something like that.
Expand QuoteLoophole wheels were at least at some point claimed to be from the F4 scientist guy by someone on here. And the rumor that he’s of Spitfire has been going on for at least a year and that is the reason for the recent F4 shortages. Nothing’s been confirmed though. I think concerned_parent took it insta like a man and asked Jim T and he said the shortage was due to some issues at the facility or something like that.[close]
Yeah peeps were saying Loopholes are pretty much formula 5’s. Look great to me. Really want them. Just haven’t pulled the trighair. And they’re on TOA but their 20% off ended... but yeah, their conicals look amazing.
Beautiful white F4s back in stock. Neckface collabs as well and they look fucking sick.Damn Skatewarehouse is doing 15% off too. Thanks Woos.
The beloved 99a Conical Fulls in 53 and 55mm is one of them. Not sure why they wouldn’t include the most popular Conical Full size (54mm) but oh well.
You guys are lucky I’m sharing this info... I could have been a dick and bought up all the 53mm Conical Fulls but it’s the holidays and I can’t justify spending more money on myself. I should probably buy a set before they’re gone though. Wish they did some Neckface 99a Radial Slims. :/
99a Conical Full Neckface x Rowan (53 & 55mm)
https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Spitfire_F4_Neckface_Rowan_99a_Wheels/descpage-SF4NRWH.html
99a F4 Classic Neckface x Spanky (52 & 54mm)
https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Spitfire_F4_Neckface_Spanky_99a_Wheels/descpage-SF4NSWH.html
99a F4 Radial Neckface x Kader (58mm)
https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Spitfire_F4_Neckface_Kader_99a_Wheels/descpage-SF4NKWH.html
99a F4 Radial Neckface x Kader (54 & 58mm)
https://www.cowtownskateboards.com/skateboarding/parts/wheels/spitfire/f4-99-kader-neckface-radial-wheels-white-pid-53792
Those are the cheapest I found them ($34.99). Enjoy.
Damn Skatewarehouse is doing 15% off too. Thanks Woos.Expand QuoteBeautiful white F4s back in stock. Neckface collabs as well and they look fucking sick.
The beloved 99a Conical Fulls in 53 and 55mm is one of them. Not sure why they wouldn’t include the most popular Conical Full size (54mm) but oh well.
You guys are lucky I’m sharing this info... I could have been a dick and bought up all the 53mm Conical Fulls but it’s the holidays and I can’t justify spending more money on myself. I should probably buy a set before they’re gone though. Wish they did some Neckface 99a Radial Slims. :/
99a Conical Full Neckface x Rowan (53 & 55mm)
https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Spitfire_F4_Neckface_Rowan_99a_Wheels/descpage-SF4NRWH.html
99a F4 Classic Neckface x Spanky (52 & 54mm)
https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Spitfire_F4_Neckface_Spanky_99a_Wheels/descpage-SF4NSWH.html
99a F4 Radial Neckface x Kader (58mm)
https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Spitfire_F4_Neckface_Kader_99a_Wheels/descpage-SF4NKWH.html
99a F4 Radial Neckface x Kader (54 & 58mm)
https://www.cowtownskateboards.com/skateboarding/parts/wheels/spitfire/f4-99-kader-neckface-radial-wheels-white-pid-53792
Those are the cheapest I found them ($34.99). Enjoy.[close]
Is there a big difference in fell between the conical & conical full?
Im mostly riding street and thinking maybe the extra width will be overkill?
Is there a big difference in fell between the conical & conical full?
Im mostly riding street and thinking maybe the extra width will be overkill?
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Im mostly riding street and thinking maybe the extra width will be overkill?[close]
Personally I find the difference quite large. What size trucks do you ride? 8.5”+ I actually find Conical Fulls to be the better choice. 8.0” I prefer Radial Slims or Tablets but I’d prefer Conical over Conical Full.
Wider will almost always ride better but I need a decent amount of space to grind.
I guess it depends on where you live as well. I’m Midwest and a lot of the time I’m in smaller towns and cities where spots are extra crusty. This is when I actually want wide wheels like Conical Fulls. If I was just riding comfy and smooth spots/parks I’d be sticking to Radial Slims.
If you ride larger transition you’ll also want the Fulls. Smaller transition the regular Conicals, Tablets or Radial Slims might be nice since you have more truck to grind and stall with.
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Im mostly riding street and thinking maybe the extra width will be overkill?[close]
Personally I find the difference quite large. What size trucks do you ride? 8.5”+ I actually find Conical Fulls to be the better choice. 8.0” I prefer Radial Slims or Tablets but I’d prefer Conical over Conical Full.
Wider will almost always ride better but I need a decent amount of space to grind.
I guess it depends on where you live as well. I’m Midwest and a lot of the time I’m in smaller towns and cities where spots are extra crusty. This is when I actually want wide wheels like Conical Fulls. If I was just riding comfy and smooth spots/parks I’d be sticking to Radial Slims.
If you ride larger transition you’ll also want the Fulls. Smaller transition the regular Conicals, Tablets or Radial Slims might be nice since you have more truck to grind and stall with.[close]
Fulls are my preference on 149 +. Annnd I seen a lot of flatbar and rail skaters lately opting for the reduced grind room because the wider wheels actually seem to help them lock in better with having more depth and shorter distance to lock on wider set ups. Prob not preferred on sub 8.5 boards/trucks.
I fuck with 55/56/58 fulls personally and don’t grind rails and love em. Plus I like the weight distribution for flip tricks. Started going back to classic shape but the fulls are my fave for sure and what I got back to.
Hey fellas, just wondering what shape of wheel would be best for mostly park skating (mainly bowl), as well as cruising around on decent streets. The only thing that I really want is for them to be 101a. Was thinking 101a 56mm conical fulls. opinions?
thanks, and s h a l o m
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thanks, and s h a l o m[close]
Conicals probably?
Thanks, I’m currently riding 55mm 101a lockins and thought the conical fulls were the best match. I was mainly looking for something similar but symmetrical in shape. I’m on 159 indys so grind room is t a big deal.
definitely not tech, just 'street skating, trying to slappy and cruising around
any idea where to get these bad boys? I tried CCS, but alas, nothing. I'm in Canada and it almost seems completely out of stock (spitfire famine?) as the duties are steep, but if nothing else comes through, US it is
The wheels I was peeping were these bad boys https://thedriveshop.ca/products/spitfire-f4-101d-conical-full-56mm?_pos=3&_sid=489851c11&_ss=r
And they’re near where I live so they’re one of my ideals. The only radial slims i could find were 99a 53 which would be my last ditch option. 56mm i could wear down as im sliding a lot. i couldn’t find conicals anywhere really besides Australia and London.
EDIT: found em at SPoT but I’d be paying like half the price for shipping
Expand QuoteThe wheels I was peeping were these bad boys https://thedriveshop.ca/products/spitfire-f4-101d-conical-full-56mm?_pos=3&_sid=489851c11&_ss=r
And they’re near where I live so they’re one of my ideals. The only radial slims i could find were 99a 53 which would be my last ditch option. 56mm i could wear down as im sliding a lot. i couldn’t find conicals anywhere really besides Australia and London.
EDIT: found em at SPoT but I’d be paying like half the price for shipping[close]
56 conical fulls are my favorite. If you’re skating a lot they will wear down, mine are currently closer to 53 after probably a year
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteThe wheels I was peeping were these bad boys https://thedriveshop.ca/products/spitfire-f4-101d-conical-full-56mm?_pos=3&_sid=489851c11&_ss=r
And they’re near where I live so they’re one of my ideals. The only radial slims i could find were 99a 53 which would be my last ditch option. 56mm i could wear down as im sliding a lot. i couldn’t find conicals anywhere really besides Australia and London.
EDIT: found em at SPoT but I’d be paying like half the price for shipping[close]
56 conical fulls are my favorite. If you’re skating a lot they will wear down, mine are currently closer to 53 after probably a year[close]
Those the ones!
You 56mm conical full boys do 1/8" risers or just tighten the shit out of your trucks so you don't wheel bite?Neither, they were perfect with loose Indys, almost perfect with ace 44s. Never had wheelbite problems with the Indys, not too much wheelbite with the aces but after riding Indy 149s the last 10 years I know where it’s gonna wheelbite better then any other truck for me.
Checking some tablets 55 vs Conicals 54. I want a bigger wheel, that's why tablets came into this. Any experience?
Neither, they were perfect with loose Indys, almost perfect with ace 44s. Never had wheelbite problems with the Indys, not too much wheelbite with the aces but after riding Indy 149s the last 10 years I know where it’s gonna wheelbite better then any other truck for me.Expand QuoteYou 56mm conical full boys do 1/8" risers or just tighten the shit out of your trucks so you don't wheel bite?[close]
Edit: also I only street skate with them, don’t really go to parks much, when I do it’s with them. Perfect all around wheel for me.
You 56mm conical full boys do 1/8" risers or just tighten the shit out of your trucks so you don't wheel bite?
to add to that, 56mm F4s, how is street skating with you wheels?
Expand QuoteDamn Skatewarehouse is doing 15% off too. Thanks Woos.Expand QuoteBeautiful white F4s back in stock. Neckface collabs as well and they look fucking sick.
The beloved 99a Conical Fulls in 53 and 55mm is one of them. Not sure why they wouldn’t include the most popular Conical Full size (54mm) but oh well.
You guys are lucky I’m sharing this info... I could have been a dick and bought up all the 53mm Conical Fulls but it’s the holidays and I can’t justify spending more money on myself. I should probably buy a set before they’re gone though. Wish they did some Neckface 99a Radial Slims. :/
99a Conical Full Neckface x Rowan (53 & 55mm)
https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Spitfire_F4_Neckface_Rowan_99a_Wheels/descpage-SF4NRWH.html
99a F4 Classic Neckface x Spanky (52 & 54mm)
https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Spitfire_F4_Neckface_Spanky_99a_Wheels/descpage-SF4NSWH.html
99a F4 Radial Neckface x Kader (58mm)
https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Spitfire_F4_Neckface_Kader_99a_Wheels/descpage-SF4NKWH.html
99a F4 Radial Neckface x Kader (54 & 58mm)
https://www.cowtownskateboards.com/skateboarding/parts/wheels/spitfire/f4-99-kader-neckface-radial-wheels-white-pid-53792
Those are the cheapest I found them ($34.99). Enjoy.[close][close]
No problem, enjoy! I hope they did a decent sized run because these things are going to sell like crazy.
Update: Looks like Skatewarehouse is temporarily not allowing people to but those wheels but they should be soon, idk when though. Tactics has them for $34.99 as well and I believe they have free shipping for everyone at any price currently. If it’s showing a shipping charge try clearing your cookies, use a VPN or use a different browser/computer/phone.
Does anyone here know the specs for the 58mm radials? They only list the radials up to 56mm on the spitfire website.
Expand QuoteDoes anyone here know the specs for the 58mm radials? They only list the radials up to 56mm on the spitfire website.[close]
Wide af. Wider than fulls I think just from looking at them in real life. Def eyeing getting a set.
Just ordered some tablets 99 55mmtablets are a sexy shape. i'd be excited and 55mm meaning 23mm riding surface and only 33mm width, closest thing to that is 54mm conical full with 22mm riding surface / 34mm width
Pretty stoked for whatever reason
Exactly. I wanted conical fulls but couldn't find so tablets were an interesting alternativetablets are a sexy shape. i'd be excited and 55mm meaning 23mm riding surface and only 33mm width, closest thing to that is 54mm conical full with 22mm riding surface / 34mm widthExpand QuoteJust ordered some tablets 99 55mm
Pretty stoked for whatever reason[close]
Just threw together a smaller tech setup with Thunders and 52mm conical fulls, thinking about getting 54mm classics. Pros/cons? Classics worse for tranny? Better for ledges?Come on, all wheels are basically gonna do the same thing right? Actually now that I think about it, I probably feel that way because I’m not very good at skating. These small differences that I’ve tried and never real notice anything different, might make a big difference to someone at a higher skill level than me.
Just threw together a smaller tech setup with Thunders and 52mm conical fulls, thinking about getting 54mm classics. Pros/cons? Classics worse for tranny? Better for ledges?I'd say classics are better for tranny being a bigger size (less lock ups on coping) and the smaller conical fulls would be better for ledges, more clearance for nose/tailslides and better lock with the hard edge that the fulls have.
Thunders and 54mm classics.
I have 55 conicals right now on a thunder RIPExpand QuoteThunders and 54mm classics.[close]
Wheelbite alarm.
I have 55 conicals right now on a thunder RIPExpand QuoteExpand QuoteThunders and 54mm classics.[close]
Wheelbite alarm.[close]
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteDoes anyone here know the specs for the 58mm radials? They only list the radials up to 56mm on the spitfire website.[close]
Wide af. Wider than fulls I think just from looking at them in real life. Def eyeing getting a set.[close]
(https://i.imgur.com/SEgiWqY.jpg)
Top = 58mm Kader Radial Full
Bottom = 56mm Conical Full
Not sure how different these Kader shaped ones are, but here's a comparison. Same contact patch, much rounder and a tad wider due to this. Beautiful wheels. I switch between the two.
Expand QuoteI have 55 conicals right now on a thunder RIPExpand QuoteExpand QuoteThunders and 54mm classics.[close]
Wheelbite alarm.[close][close]
Not even, been runnin that shit for years, no problems here
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI have 55 conicals right now on a thunder RIPExpand QuoteExpand QuoteThunders and 54mm classics.[close]
Wheelbite alarm.[close][close]
Not even, been runnin that shit for years, no problems here[close]
Riding thunder 147’s with 54mm Classics and minimal wheelbite.
Thinking of going 101a. Too slick for indoor parks? Noticeably faster? Let me know, pals. Shalom!
Thinking of going 101a. Too slick for indoor parks? Noticeably faster? Let me know, pals. Shalom!101 are big no no for me. Had then twice regretted about it twice. Go for 99
Thinking of going 101a. Too slick for indoor parks? Noticeably faster? Let me know, pals. Shalom!
Radial slims or conical 53 or 54Expand QuoteThinking of going 101a. Too slick for indoor parks? Noticeably faster? Let me know, pals. Shalom![close]
Not a pal, but I will say that 101a F4s are veeeery slick on indoor parks, but one can get used to it. They are crazy fast wheels though. They're really good wheels overall, but indoors, no. IT could work if you can only afford one set of wheels, get them anyway. The contact patch is also good to know, which wheels are you thinking?
How? I got pitched so hard skating some 54mm conical fulls on thunders. They were stock loose and I weigh nothing. Immediately switched back to Ace and IndysExpand QuoteI have 55 conicals right now on a thunder RIPExpand QuoteExpand QuoteThunders and 54mm classics.[close]
Wheelbite alarm.[close][close]
Not even, been runnin that shit for years, no problems here
How? I got pitched so hard skating some 54mm conical fulls on thunders. They were stock loose and I weigh nothing. Immediately switched back to Ace and IndysExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI have 55 conicals right now on a thunder RIPExpand QuoteExpand QuoteThunders and 54mm classics.[close]
Wheelbite alarm.[close][close]
Not even, been runnin that shit for years, no problems here[close]
Thinking of going 101a. Too slick for indoor parks? Noticeably faster? Let me know, pals. Shalom!
No idea how you guys are getting away with F4’s of either durometer at indoors. Those things are way too slick. My 97a Speedlabs have even had a few moments of close calls. I’m still on the hunt for something softer but not too soft.
No idea how you guys are getting away with F4’s of either durometer at indoors. Those things are way too slick. My 97a Speedlabs have even had a few moments of close calls. I’m still on the hunt for something softer but not too soft.
So I didn’t even need to order them...
My brother hooked it up with some Conical Full 99a 53s and some Ace 44s.
I normally don’t give a fuck about wheel graphics but these look amazing. Killer graphic and the quality of the print is A1.
(https://i.imgur.com/94PfXbn.jpg)
Anyone skated Classic Fulls? Skating 56 Conical Fulls, wanting to maybe switch to 56 Grosso Fulls? I skate transition and never skated classics because I assume they don't lock in as good?I have the Grosso 54s, they lock in fine.
Expand QuoteNo idea how you guys are getting away with F4’s of either durometer at indoors. Those things are way too slick. My 97a Speedlabs have even had a few moments of close calls. I’m still on the hunt for something softer but not too soft.[close]
You need to ride 99a F4s in the streets first. Then they’re not as slippery.
Brand new ones are pretty sketch on Skatelite transition though.
Wish there was a 95-97a Radial Slim type of wheel. I might try some Slimeballs out.
Expand QuoteSo I didn’t even need to order them...
My brother hooked it up with some Conical Full 99a 53s and some Ace 44s.
I normally don’t give a fuck about wheel graphics but these look amazing. Killer graphic and the quality of the print is A1.
(https://i.imgur.com/94PfXbn.jpg)[close]
I just got those same wheels but I’m putting them on thunder hollow light 148s.
I went into the shop with the intention of getting the trucks (called the shop to hold em) and some 52mm classics. The 53mm conical fulls were a bit of a curveball but that’s my favorite shape wheel so I couldn’t pass.
This is the first set of thunders I’ve had since the set I had on my roskopp eyeball when I was like 8 years old. I’m already dreading the wheelbite but I really wanted to switch things up from my usual ace/Indy preference. I am looking forward to trying to learn some new flip tricks though and hoping the relatively light/compact setup will help with that.
yeah that's happened to pairs of mine before. never felt like it was an issue though, usually from skating fucked asphalt.This.
I actually really like the classic full. 54mm. They skate really well.I have the Grosso 54s, they lock in fine.Expand QuoteAnyone skated Classic Fulls? Skating 56 Conical Fulls, wanting to maybe switch to 56 Grosso Fulls? I skate transition and never skated classics because I assume they don't lock in as good?[close]
yeah that's happened to pairs of mine before. never felt like it was an issue though, usually from skating fucked asphalt.
They do loose little chunks but always ride smooth.
Happens all the time, only once has it been a problem though.
Thanks for the replies. Yep definitely is being used on rough asphalt.This.Expand Quoteyeah that's happened to pairs of mine before. never felt like it was an issue though, usually from skating fucked asphalt.[close]
Same thing happened to me with my classic full. I'm living in a place with rough asphalt
Just wanted to see if this was normal for F4...
Randomly noticed this chip tonight and only skated these wheels 2-3 times. Barely for an hour each session. Conical 54mm 99. Pics2 and 3 are shit- tough to focus properly and wheels appear more yellow in pics due to fluorescent overhead light.
(https://i.ibb.co/vH4Tzbq/9-D2-DEC25-B924-4360-BF6-A-FCDA803-E0-FB0.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/3m7dPzr/8782559-B-9-B27-4-A4-A-ACD8-AC416-B8536-CC.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/BPFwztj/13718-FD0-BBE6-45-CA-B0-F7-44-CB4-CDEA3-E7.jpg)
want to try 101s f4s. what size and shape did you guys like? how was it different that 99a?
Expand Quotewant to try 101s f4s. what size and shape did you guys like? how was it different that 99a?[close]
Just get the same shape that you prefer in 99a, for me thats radial slims. I don't like 101s, noticeably less forgiving on rougher ground. Slide slightly better and with slightly less effort, but that also means powerslides don't slow you down as much (kinda defeating the whole purpose of doing them) and its a bit easier to slip out. They also slide a bit better on ledges for blunts etc but the tiniest amount of wax will equalize it. I can only see them being better if you really struggle to revert your 180/360 tricks or if you only skate really smooth and non slippery terrain.
Expand QuoteExpand Quotewant to try 101s f4s. what size and shape did you guys like? how was it different that 99a?[close]
Just get the same shape that you prefer in 99a, for me thats radial slims. I don't like 101s, noticeably less forgiving on rougher ground. Slide slightly better and with slightly less effort, but that also means powerslides don't slow you down as much (kinda defeating the whole purpose of doing them) and its a bit easier to slip out. They also slide a bit better on ledges for blunts etc but the tiniest amount of wax will equalize it. I can only see them being better if you really struggle to revert your 180/360 tricks or if you only skate really smooth and non slippery terrain.[close]
i ride radial slims in 99a so i guess its not worth my $36 to try the 101s. might try a different shape completely. conical fulls look interesting for the new york street crust
I currently have a set of 101 conical fulls back home in california, They are like 45mm now but they still slide really well. I've had 101 Radial slims but I don't remember what they felt like. I do recomend hard conicals if you like sliding and slappies. It made them feel better. Did a feeble on a curb with them and slid them out.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quotewant to try 101s f4s. what size and shape did you guys like? how was it different that 99a?[close]
Just get the same shape that you prefer in 99a, for me thats radial slims. I don't like 101s, noticeably less forgiving on rougher ground. Slide slightly better and with slightly less effort, but that also means powerslides don't slow you down as much (kinda defeating the whole purpose of doing them) and its a bit easier to slip out. They also slide a bit better on ledges for blunts etc but the tiniest amount of wax will equalize it. I can only see them being better if you really struggle to revert your 180/360 tricks or if you only skate really smooth and non slippery terrain.[close]
i ride radial slims in 99a so i guess its not worth my $36 to try the 101s. might try a different shape completely. conical fulls look interesting for the new york street crust[close]
Definitely recommend conical fulls, even in the smaller sizes, so good on that crusty ground
want to try 101s f4s. what size and shape did you guys like? how was it different that 99a?I hated my 101s, feels too "plasticy", like Bones imo
Just wanted to see if this was normal for F4...Literally every set of F4s I've had has done that. I made a big deal about it at first when it first happened but after a while I stopped caring. It does make the wheels look all ugly and shitty though.
Randomly noticed this chip tonight and only skated these wheels 2-3 times. Barely for an hour each session. Conical 54mm 99. Pics2 and 3 are shit- tough to focus properly and wheels appear more yellow in pics due to fluorescent overhead light.
(https://i.ibb.co/vH4Tzbq/9-D2-DEC25-B924-4360-BF6-A-FCDA803-E0-FB0.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/3m7dPzr/8782559-B-9-B27-4-A4-A-ACD8-AC416-B8536-CC.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/BPFwztj/13718-FD0-BBE6-45-CA-B0-F7-44-CB4-CDEA3-E7.jpg)
How do I get my formula fours to be that deep amber color?
I hated my 101s, feels too "plasticy", like Bones imoExpand Quotewant to try 101s f4s. what size and shape did you guys like? how was it different that 99a?[close]
On my main setup 99 55mm tablets and on the setup that I hate I got 99 classic fulls that were originally 54 and now they're on 52Expand QuoteI hated my 101s, feels too "plasticy", like Bones imoExpand Quotewant to try 101s f4s. what size and shape did you guys like? how was it different that 99a?[close][close]
So what are you riding?
On my main setup 99 55mm tablets and on the setup that I hate I got 99 classic fulls that were originally 54 and now they're on 52Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI hated my 101s, feels too "plasticy", like Bones imoExpand Quotewant to try 101s f4s. what size and shape did you guys like? how was it different that 99a?[close][close]
So what are you riding?[close]
Expand QuoteOn my main setup 99 55mm tablets and on the setup that I hate I got 99 classic fulls that were originally 54 and now they're on 52Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI hated my 101s, feels too "plasticy", like Bones imoExpand Quotewant to try 101s f4s. what size and shape did you guys like? how was it different that 99a?[close][close]
So what are you riding?[close][close]
I hate classics formula too. Especially wide they feel even more dull, heavy and cheap.
F4 101 are okay. Not much of a difference to me but 99 f4 are a little smoother and slide easy enough.
The new classic's? I think I have some and I don't like them. They don't bark like old spits and get goosey sounding at colder temps. Seem grippy compared to old spits too. Probably more flatspot resistant cuz the grooves took forever for me to wear off, which actually led to some small flat spots. Oh, the irony.Expand QuoteOn my main setup 99 55mm tablets and on the setup that I hate I got 99 classic fulls that were originally 54 and now they're on 52Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI hated my 101s, feels too "plasticy", like Bones imoExpand Quotewant to try 101s f4s. what size and shape did you guys like? how was it different that 99a?[close][close]
So what are you riding?[close][close]
I hate classics formula too. Especially wide they feel even more dull, heavy and cheap.
F4 101 are okay. Not much of a difference to me but 99 f4 are a little smoother and slide easy enough.
Seems like there is still a pretty hefty F4 shortage.
Expand QuoteSeems like there is still a pretty hefty F4 shortage.[close]
Probably because there are people out there like me. I bought every set I could find during the initial shortage. I think I have 8 sets on ice
Of you're thinking about 99 the answer is not.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteSeems like there is still a pretty hefty F4 shortage.[close]
Probably because there are people out there like me. I bought every set I could find during the initial shortage. I think I have 8 sets on ice[close]
I should have. I just want 52-53mm Conical Fulls IS THAT TOO HARD?
35thave.com got that heat get em while they hot baby! Save me some embers I’ve only ridden the natty color but I am eyeing some crazy color shit maybe even those lance mountains haha. I’m pretty sick but I never got a chance to medicate myself with some tablets :o might try that soon too. This is where that stupid tag line should be, “ride the best, fuck the rest” type of bullshit because the wheels are that good.
I've seen both. I like the shittier browner color. Its closer to 'natural' urethane. i can't stand bone white wheels...Ya. Bones are a too white but I've still got 90's snobbery with white wheels. Makes me indecisive
I doubt they'll perform differently but in theory the natural ones have less additives in the formula...Ya. I try to tell myself the same thing but I'm not as easily convinced like I was when that was said about dyes in colored wheels
Kinetic just re upped
Expand QuoteKinetic just re upped[close]
I don't know if it's just me but I really hate how they open and take the wheels out of the packaging.
Anyone ever get F4s in square packaging or NOS? Got them for cheap at a real skateshop but just never seen F4s in this packaging before.
Anyone ever get F4s in square packaging or NOS? Got them for cheap at a real skateshop but just never seen F4s in this packaging before.https://skate-planet.com/products/spitfire-wheels-formula-four-classic-toxic-apocalypse-purple-green-skateboard-wheels-54mm-99a
Thank you. I knew I wasn’t the only one but I’ve noticed a few shops do that now.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteKinetic just re upped[close]
I don't know if it's just me but I really hate how they open and take the wheels out of the packaging.[close]
not just you. never understood why any shop would do it
Old timers uses to love to hit the wheels together and listen for the clack. Harder wheels sound a lil different, some wheels sound kinda dead. Idk. Some ppl might like to see the shape closer up too.Thank you. I knew I wasn’t the only one but I’ve noticed a few shops do that now.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteKinetic just re upped[close]
I don't know if it's just me but I really hate how they open and take the wheels out of the packaging.[close]
not just you. never understood why any shop would do it[close]
Old timers uses to love to hit the wheels together and listen for the clack. Harder wheels sound a lil different, some wheels sound kinda dead. Idk. Some ppl might like to see the shape closer up too.Expand QuoteThank you. I knew I wasn’t the only one but I’ve noticed a few shops do that now.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteKinetic just re upped[close]
I don't know if it's just me but I really hate how they open and take the wheels out of the packaging.[close]
not just you. never understood why any shop would do it[close][close]
Expand QuoteOld timers uses to love to hit the wheels together and listen for the clack. Harder wheels sound a lil different, some wheels sound kinda dead. Idk. Some ppl might like to see the shape closer up too.Expand QuoteThank you. I knew I wasn’t the only one but I’ve noticed a few shops do that now.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteKinetic just re upped[close]
I don't know if it's just me but I really hate how they open and take the wheels out of the packaging.[close]
not just you. never understood why any shop would do it[close][close][close]
As far as kinetic goes, it's probably to save room in their case at the shop. And they fulfill online orders from shop stock. Where as some online retailers separate their online and in store stock. Mildly annoying, I have a decent relationship with the crew at Kinetic I typically have them order stuff or toss stuff to the side for me so I don't encounter this much.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteOld timers uses to love to hit the wheels together and listen for the clack. Harder wheels sound a lil different, some wheels sound kinda dead. Idk. Some ppl might like to see the shape closer up too.Expand QuoteThank you. I knew I wasn’t the only one but I’ve noticed a few shops do that now.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteKinetic just re upped[close]
I don't know if it's just me but I really hate how they open and take the wheels out of the packaging.[close]
not just you. never understood why any shop would do it[close][close][close]
As far as kinetic goes, it's probably to save room in their case at the shop. And they fulfill online orders from shop stock. Where as some online retailers separate their online and in store stock. Mildly annoying, I have a decent relationship with the crew at Kinetic I typically have them order stuff or toss stuff to the side for me so I don't encounter this much.[close]
Just wanted to add, cause I don't want you thinking I'm talking shit on Kinetic, all those guys are super nice and chill everytime I go in there. Been going since since they opened next to the old wawa. Just not into buying opened wheels is all.
I bought 51mm tablets like 2 months ago when I had my Thunders but only rode them for like an hour. I put my Indy's back on with my old ass 54mm conical full's but since going down to 8.38 the other day I feel like the truck is too crowded and I can't get on coping that easy. Even 50-50-s feel hard to sit on, I have to ollie out earlier than I want to. Put the tablets back on today, but I did it after skating all morning so I'm too tired to see how it feels. Tomorrow though.
They actually worked out pretty well for sitting through grinds on curbs. I was already riding 149's and I've had 50-50s so locked for years on ledges and curbs that I know it wasn't me wanting to jump out of the grind. The smaller size for sure helped level out my board and I was grinding this sort of curb ledge at the entrance to the skatepark all the way through the curve it has until it ends so it felt good. I'm more interested in skating a flat round bar. I used to be able to slide feebles a little but I could never figure out why I couldn't just sit on it. I think the tablets and my looser trucks will help. Too much skin on those conical fulls.Expand QuoteI bought 51mm tablets like 2 months ago when I had my Thunders but only rode them for like an hour. I put my Indy's back on with my old ass 54mm conical full's but since going down to 8.38 the other day I feel like the truck is too crowded and I can't get on coping that easy. Even 50-50-s feel hard to sit on, I have to ollie out earlier than I want to. Put the tablets back on today, but I did it after skating all morning so I'm too tired to see how it feels. Tomorrow though.[close]
If you like the conicals over the tablets besides that issue maybe go with a wider truck. Although you may just get used to it. I’m riding Indy 129s( not by choice) on 54mm tablets right now and I’m having the same problem, hard to get into grinds and always feel like the board is gonna tip out on impact even if I get the truck(s) on solid for 50-50 or 5-0. Not a big issue on ledges but on 2 sided curbs it’s pretty tough. On round rails I imagine it could actually be an advantage but I don’t fuck with those cause I’m a pussy
Not having a tape measure in a shop is possibly the worstExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteOld timers uses to love to hit the wheels together and listen for the clack. Harder wheels sound a lil different, some wheels sound kinda dead. Idk. Some ppl might like to see the shape closer up too.Expand QuoteThank you. I knew I wasn’t the only one but I’ve noticed a few shops do that now.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteKinetic just re upped[close]
I don't know if it's just me but I really hate how they open and take the wheels out of the packaging.[close]
not just you. never understood why any shop would do it[close][close][close]
As far as kinetic goes, it's probably to save room in their case at the shop. And they fulfill online orders from shop stock. Where as some online retailers separate their online and in store stock. Mildly annoying, I have a decent relationship with the crew at Kinetic I typically have them order stuff or toss stuff to the side for me so I don't encounter this much.[close]
Just wanted to add, cause I don't want you thinking I'm talking shit on Kinetic, all those guys are super nice and chill everytime I go in there. Been going since since they opened next to the old wawa. Just not into buying opened wheels is all.[close]
Didn’t think that at all. I get it, it drives me crazy they don’t have a tape measure and only have a yard stick. Every skater has some thing that gets to them.
Have the Conical Full embers even made their way to any online skate shops (CCS, Tactics, either Warehouse) yet or did they come and go that quick?UPDATE: eBay has some up for a reasonable price and free shipping. 54mm. Can't wait to get 'em.
Grey wheels? That just looks and feels so wrong :-[That's a big NOPE
More pics here https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Spitfire_F4_Radial_Grey_Blue_99a_Wheels/descpage-SFRB9WH.html
Yep it’s grey. Better than black? Unsure
More pics here https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Spitfire_F4_Radial_Grey_Blue_99a_Wheels/descpage-SFRB9WH.html
Yep it’s grey. Better than black? Unsure
Same here. White is always preferred but if I have to choose a colored wheel black is the only choice.Expand QuoteMore pics here https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Spitfire_F4_Radial_Grey_Blue_99a_Wheels/descpage-SFRB9WH.html
Yep it’s grey. Better than black? Unsure[close]
I'll take black wheels over grey ones any day.
So very wrong, black is by far the worst wheel color.Same here. White is always preferred but if I have to choose a colored wheel black is the only choice.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteMore pics here https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Spitfire_F4_Radial_Grey_Blue_99a_Wheels/descpage-SFRB9WH.html
Yep it’s grey. Better than black? Unsure[close]
I'll take black wheels over grey ones any day.[close]
I know people that will accept colored wheels if thats the only option but rarely every people that actively want a set? Why are they wasting resource on these and not giving people white f4's that most want? Unless I'm extremely misjudging the demand for white f4's in all shapes.
Makes sense if true. I guess it's a relatively good problem to have that your product is so popular production can't keep up. My current set of classics is doing fine but I always have slight anxiety if a thing that works for me isn't readily available if I need another one.Expand QuoteI know people that will accept colored wheels if thats the only option but rarely every people that actively want a set? Why are they wasting resource on these and not giving people white f4's that most want? Unless I'm extremely misjudging the demand for white f4's in all shapes.[close]
I don't think you're misjudging the demand at all. I think it's like other folks have said, there's probably a shortage on the regular F4s in terms of the standard Urethane. They probably still have a crap ton of urethane mixed with other colors churning in the factory, but haven't been getting enough urethane in to make more regular stuff.
the only acceptable color besides white or potato is orange. i dont know why
Expand QuoteStill seems like a F4 shortage is going on. I’ve been wanting to try some radials and they’re nowhere to be found. In general seems like shops are still wiped out on stock besides the few big online retailers.[close]
I have some brand new 51mm radial slims I’m trying to sell (or trade for used Ace 55 or 44) if you or anyone else is interested
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteStill seems like a F4 shortage is going on. I’ve been wanting to try some radials and they’re nowhere to be found. In general seems like shops are still wiped out on stock besides the few big online retailers.[close]
I have some brand new 51mm radial slims I’m trying to sell (or trade for used Ace 55 or 44) if you or anyone else is interested[close]
Thanks but I’m looking for radials, not radial slims, and in a 56-58.
You definitely got me interested, sending you a PM.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteStill seems like a F4 shortage is going on. I’ve been wanting to try some radials and they’re nowhere to be found. In general seems like shops are still wiped out on stock besides the few big online retailers.[close]
I have some brand new 51mm radial slims I’m trying to sell (or trade for used Ace 55 or 44) if you or anyone else is interested[close]
Thanks but I’m looking for radials, not radial slims, and in a 56-58.[close]
Gotcha, no problem!
Still seems like a F4 shortage is going on. I’ve been wanting to try some radials and they’re nowhere to be found. In general seems like shops are still wiped out on stock besides the few big online retailers.
First set of formula fours in forever. Man have I missed them. Just cruising around feels good. These are the glow in the dark ones though, got em for free from a friend, so they’re a bit brighter white than usual, and there’s like a teeeeny hint of light green to it which I think looks pretty sick actually; you can’t really tell from the photo though because the flash is on.Impossible to tell actually.
(https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/87348768_1467359676765867_8677473537390280704_n.jpg?_nc_cat=103&_nc_sid=110474&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_oc=AQnfuHIeJ88Df-AVpa347KZEH0q87Px624JCbJWQ5NeUJSO72EazW-PBZ45WZ_PjQ45_iZViikZvQDKb9ObMndT0&_nc_ht=scontent-lax3-1.xx&_nc_tp=14&oh=5cb8265c5e9e3aba33e160eb75bcbf2b&oe=5E9BD024)
Now that you mention it.... 🤔Impossible to tell actually.Expand QuoteFirst set of formula fours in forever. Man have I missed them. Just cruising around feels good. These are the glow in the dark ones though, got em for free from a friend, so they’re a bit brighter white than usual, and there’s like a teeeeny hint of light green to it which I think looks pretty sick actually; you can’t really tell from the photo though because the flash is on.
(https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/87348768_1467359676765867_8677473537390280704_n.jpg?_nc_cat=103&_nc_sid=110474&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_oc=AQnfuHIeJ88Df-AVpa347KZEH0q87Px624JCbJWQ5NeUJSO72EazW-PBZ45WZ_PjQ45_iZViikZvQDKb9ObMndT0&_nc_ht=scontent-lax3-1.xx&_nc_tp=14&oh=5cb8265c5e9e3aba33e160eb75bcbf2b&oe=5E9BD024)[close]
the only acceptable color besides white or potato is orange. i dont know why
Expand Quotethe only acceptable color besides white or potato is orange. i dont know why[close]
I know why I rode Orange wheels.
I was told it meant you are a queer skater a long long time ago.
So I went and got orange pigs so it be know as soon as I roll up.
Down to drink fight and Fuck.
I would buy the hell out of some orange conical fulls. 99D, 54mm. They got close with the embers, but they were orange and black.Expand QuoteExpand Quotethe only acceptable color besides white or potato is orange. i dont know why[close]
I know why I rode Orange wheels.
I was told it meant you are a queer skater a long long time ago.
So I went and got orange pigs so it be know as soon as I roll up.
Down to drink fight and Fuck.[close]
Orange Sptifires was a very 90s thing. Loved it. I would love a set of orange wheels again.
What's the problem with black or grey wheels? I've never really thought of this because I usually just buy f4 or classics. Although, the plain janes are good for rough terrain and are usually colored, I had the green pair.Dem ugly.
I guess they are, I've never really thought about it. There should be a post your ugly wheels thread.Dem ugly.Expand QuoteWhat's the problem with black or grey wheels? I've never really thought of this because I usually just buy f4 or classics. Although, the plain janes are good for rough terrain and are usually colored, I had the green pair.[close]
What’s the wheel equivalent of that one guys atrocious grip jobSome crupie wheel or a flip sidecuts.
What’s the wheel equivalent of that one guys atrocious grip job
I rode the 56 Conical Fulls for a while (hands down best wheel i have ridden). I then switched to F4 Classic shape 58, and although I have gotten used to them really want to go back to the conical fulls. Has any one messed with 58 size in them. I liked 56, but want to go bigger. Im assuming the 58 is awesome just wanted some feedback form anyone who prefers them.
I figured as much. Thanks a lot!!! I only ride 8.75 or 8.8 anyways so thats perfect. can't wait to scoop some
i was thinking the same thing. I was going to get 60mm until i realized the conical full only went up to 58. my perfect wheel would be a 60mm conical full with the classic swirl graphic.
Does f4 not come in Orange anymore? Half blue half Orange is far from cool.
Purple and orange would be better but yeah I want some orange spits again
Expand QuoteDoes f4 not come in Orange anymore? Half blue half Orange is far from cool.
Purple and orange would be better but yeah I want some orange spits again[close]
I have a set of 53mm 101 Tablets in orange but haven't skated them. Haven't looked at their newest catalog, maybe they have new ones coming out?
I’m thinking about getting a set of 56mm classic f4’s. I usually ride 53mm classic f4’s but my local is out of that size. Would 56mm be too big on an 8.38 board with loose ace 44 trucks?I would say yes but idk what loose means to you. You skate the trucks straight away?
Thank you, and yeah no risers, stock bushings no top washer.I would say yes but idk what loose means to you. You skate the trucks straight away?Expand QuoteI’m thinking about getting a set of 56mm classic f4’s. I usually ride 53mm classic f4’s but my local is out of that size. Would 56mm be too big on an 8.38 board with loose ace 44 trucks?[close]
Hey, I just wanted to ask, if someone had the same problem with formula fours chipping recenlty. I chipped my 53m 99a Classics a week ago, but wasnt thinking too much about it because i had them for about 2 months. So I just bought a new set, which I skated today for the first time and it chipped again. The chip is not as big as the chip on the old set but it kind of bummed me out. They are my favorite wheel by far and I had 7 sets prior to those two sets and they never chipped on me that badly before.Not normal, I would reach DLX
* I skated the same spots as always
Hey, I just wanted to ask, if someone had the same problem with formula fours chipping recenlty. I chipped my 53m 99a Classics a week ago, but wasnt thinking too much about it because i had them for about 2 months. So I just bought a new set, which I skated today for the first time and it chipped again. The chip is not as big as the chip on the old set but it kind of bummed me out. They are my favorite wheel by far and I had 7 sets prior to those two sets and they never chipped on me that badly before.The majority of the sets of F4s I’ve had have all done that at one point somewhere down the road. Used to make a big fuss about it when my gear OCD was at its craziest but now I just shrug it off; it doesn’t really effect the performance of the wheel, but I will say that it definitely ain’t the most aesthetically pleasing to look at your wheel and see a giant chunk missing, especially if the wheel is still pretty new.
* I skated the same spots as always
Yeah you are kind of right, had small chips on them before and just have ridden through them. But the first chip is for sure too big. So I think i will contact DLX this time, since it was the first session on the second set. Would you contact them via Slap, or go over to their website and fill in their form for their wheels guarantee ?form, & ig message dlx or spitfire or both honestly
Thanks I wrote them a message on IG, they wouldn't let me fill in the form since im from Germany.
Hopefully they will respond.
Hey, I just wanted to ask, if someone had the same problem with formula fours chipping recenlty. I chipped my 53m 99a Classics a week ago, but wasnt thinking too much about it because i had them for about 2 months. So I just bought a new set, which I skated today for the first time and it chipped again. The chip is not as big as the chip on the old set but it kind of bummed me out. They are my favorite wheel by far and I had 7 sets prior to those two sets and they never chipped on me that badly before.If your regular spot has any wooden ramps/boxes I would check for a screw sticking out. I gouged two sets in a row before realizing it was a screw.
* I skated the same spots as always
I’m thinking about getting a set of 56mm classic f4’s. I usually ride 53mm classic f4’s but my local is out of that size. Would 56mm be too big on an 8.38 board with loose ace 44 trucks?
So I know this has been discussed before, but I wanted to share some confirmation to the story about the guy who created the F4 and that he did in fact leave DLX to start his own company: https://www.nfgmfg.com/I think Thiebaud said manufacturing issues in Mexico. I'm pretty sure DLX wasn't going to roll out F4s without having that formula legally locked up. Kind of like with comic companies back in the day where they owned any characters created while you were working there.
It briefly talks about it in the description when you scroll down and click the right arrow, Aaron Holm is his name. I’ve also had a couple shops confirm after getting small runs of wheels from them directly. Makes me wonder how much of the F4 shortage has to do with a “broken machine” or whatever Thiebaud claimed?
So I know this has been discussed before, but I wanted to share some confirmation to the story about the guy who created the F4 and that he did in fact leave DLX to start his own company: https://www.nfgmfg.com/
It briefly talks about it in the description when you scroll down and click the right arrow, Aaron Holm is his name. I’ve also had a couple shops confirm after getting small runs of wheels from them directly. Makes me wonder how much of the F4 shortage has to do with a “broken machine” or whatever Thiebaud claimed?
Expand QuoteSo I know this has been discussed before, but I wanted to share some confirmation to the story about the guy who created the F4 and that he did in fact leave DLX to start his own company: https://www.nfgmfg.com/
It briefly talks about it in the description when you scroll down and click the right arrow, Aaron Holm is his name. I’ve also had a couple shops confirm after getting small runs of wheels from them directly. Makes me wonder how much of the F4 shortage has to do with a “broken machine” or whatever Thiebaud claimed?[close]
Was hoping they would make a skinnier wheel but their slimmest wheel looks like it's Classic sized.
I using worn 56 conical fulls (53 by now) and im interesting in trying 58 mm classics f4, are they good? Do they lock in?someone gave me a used set of 58s and they should be around 53-54 by now. They felt quite weird when i first set them up since my last set had worn down to 50mm or smaller, apart from that they perform amazing, i have been enjoying the extra wide riding surface, they feel great on all terrains and slide really nice. As per locking in, i suck at tranny but grinding ive found crooked grinds dont really work for my with that big/wide of a wheel so i refrained from doing them until recently when they got smaller, any other grind they lock in super nice
So I know this has been discussed before, but I wanted to share some confirmation to the story about the guy who created the F4 and that he did in fact leave DLX to start his own company: https://www.nfgmfg.com/
It briefly talks about it in the description when you scroll down and click the right arrow, Aaron Holm is his name. I’ve also had a couple shops confirm after getting small runs of wheels from them directly. Makes me wonder how much of the F4 shortage has to do with a “broken machine” or whatever Thiebaud claimed?
I’ll attest to the excellent customer service. A long time ago I mentioned here on the boards that I had a new board that felt soft and it cracked within a couple days. Jim Thiebaud personally called the shop I worked at and offered to send me a replacement for it. I’ve always respected that. At that time I primarily only skated Deluxe brands, and I still do to this dayExpand QuoteThanks I wrote them a message on IG, they wouldn't let me fill in the form since im from Germany.
Hopefully they will respond.[close]
DLX has great customer service, I had a less than great experience with my Ishod Twin Tail and they hit me up to arrange a board to be sent to me. I covered the shipping 1/2 way which is fair considering I live in Asia.
Do expect a delay given the current COVID situation though, I think their warehouse / customer service are not operating at full capacity.
I'm not sure but I think the OG Classic shape is the same as regular conicals.I’ll attest to the excellent customer service. A long time ago I mentioned here on the boards that I had a new board that felt soft and it cracked within a couple days. Jim Thiebaud personally called the shop I worked at and offered to send me a replacement for it. I’ve always respected that. At that time I primarily only skated Deluxe brands, and I still do to this dayExpand QuoteExpand QuoteThanks I wrote them a message on IG, they wouldn't let me fill in the form since im from Germany.
Hopefully they will respond.[close]
DLX has great customer service, I had a less than great experience with my Ishod Twin Tail and they hit me up to arrange a board to be sent to me. I covered the shipping 1/2 way which is fair considering I live in Asia.
Do expect a delay given the current COVID situation though, I think their warehouse / customer service are not operating at full capacity.[close]
Back to wheels I wish they made the OG Classic shape in an F4 because it looks cool. I’ve skated F4’s since they came out, but I set up a set of regular Classics on a goof around board. Same size, same bearings, but the wheels feel slower. I’m a weirdo and I like colored wheels, so I’m hoping for a green or blue F4 again in the future
53 conical full or tablets? looking for a smoother ride on nyc crust but it's hard to tell the difference just by the measurements spitfire providesConical fulls. Width helps smooth out crust.
53 conical full or tablets? looking for a smoother ride on nyc crust but it's hard to tell the difference just by the measurements spitfire providesConical full
mix of crust and those stupid sidewalk cracks that pitch me on my radial slims that are worn down to almost 48mmConical fulls. Width helps smooth out crust.Expand Quote53 conical full or tablets? looking for a smoother ride on nyc crust but it's hard to tell the difference just by the measurements spitfire provides[close]
Idk how crusty NYC is but 53-54mm is for smooth-ish ground to me. My homie out there rocked 53's but he probably skipped on extra crusty spots. 55-57mm for real crust?
I'm thinking of getting some conical fulls but I'm not sure if I should get 99 or 101D. I've had both 99 and 101 of the F4 classic shape and liked them both. It seemed like the difference between them wasn't as noticeable on rougher ground but I'm curious if a wider wheel would change that. How grippy are the 99s on the conical fulls compared to the 101s?
For cracks larger diameter is definitely better. Makes concrete seams a lil less annoying too.mix of crust and those stupid sidewalk cracks that pitch me on my radial slims that are worn down to almost 48mmExpand QuoteConical fulls. Width helps smooth out crust.Expand Quote53 conical full or tablets? looking for a smoother ride on nyc crust but it's hard to tell the difference just by the measurements spitfire provides[close]
Idk how crusty NYC is but 53-54mm is for smooth-ish ground to me. My homie out there rocked 53's but he probably skipped on extra crusty spots. 55-57mm for real crust?[close]
Conical fulls. Width helps smooth out crust.Expand Quote53 conical full or tablets? looking for a smoother ride on nyc crust but it's hard to tell the difference just by the measurements spitfire provides[close]
Idk how crusty NYC is but 53-54mm is for smooth-ish ground to me. My homie out there rocked 53's but he probably skipped on extra crusty spots. 55-57mm for real crust?
Conical fulls are just the best shape, imo. Looks good, feels good.Second that. I keep coming back to mine even though they are my oldest set of wheels
How old are we talking? Are they tiny? What duro and size?Second that. I keep coming back to mine even though they are my oldest set of wheelsExpand QuoteConical fulls are just the best shape, imo. Looks good, feels good.[close]
three years-ish...post pics?
Skated a few other sets in the meantime but they are still best.
Went from 58 and are now between 54 and 52, all wheels different sizes, coned out and all shit, still feels better than fresh classics and my stfs
post pics?Expand Quotethree years-ish...
Skated a few other sets in the meantime but they are still best.
Went from 58 and are now between 54 and 52, all wheels different sizes, coned out and all shit, still feels better than fresh classics and my stfs[close]
So nice thanks!Expand Quotepost pics?Expand Quotethree years-ish...
Skated a few other sets in the meantime but they are still best.
Went from 58 and are now between 54 and 52, all wheels different sizes, coned out and all shit, still feels better than fresh classics and my stfs[close][close]
(https://i.ibb.co/k0hC6Xh/A16-AD089-0843-4-BE9-926-C-41-E156-D3-E05-E.jpg)
That is fairly recent like a month or two old. I kept rotating them and flipping whenever setting up a new deck.
Is it my imagination or are newer batches of F4's less of a light natural color an more outright tan? Just got a set of F4 classics and they look weathered as fuck -- not that it matters in the end.
Expand QuoteIs it my imagination or are newer batches of F4's less of a light natural color an more outright tan? Just got a set of F4 classics and they look weathered as fuck -- not that it matters in the end.[close]
It's not just you. I just got a set from my local from the re-up batch DLX sent the shops after "the shortage" and they are the darkest ones I have had yet. Skate exactly the same though.
I actually remember my first few sets I had when they first came out all those years back being a lot more of a darker tan color and then over time as the years passed they got lighter and lighter.
I think a 53 classic with the orange and white is A1Expand QuoteI actually remember my first few sets I had when they first came out all those years back being a lot more of a darker tan color and then over time as the years passed they got lighter and lighter.[close]
Think they are back to dark again. The more off white the better IMO...
If my feet vibrating to the point where they feel numb I start wanting bigger wheels. Maybe I'm just a wimp? I'm usually in classics tho so wider should help. I gotta go wheel hunting..Expand QuoteConical fulls. Width helps smooth out crust.Expand Quote53 conical full or tablets? looking for a smoother ride on nyc crust but it's hard to tell the difference just by the measurements spitfire provides[close]
Idk how crusty NYC is but 53-54mm is for smooth-ish ground to me. My homie out there rocked 53's but he probably skipped on extra crusty spots. 55-57mm for real crust?[close]
Meh, biggest thing I've skated for years is 54mm. I live in PA and there's next to nothing that's actually smooth here. I've said it in another thread but I got 54mm pennswood winter tires. They're cruiser wheels(so really soft) taken through a lathe to make them smaller. They've become great for a real crusty spot. Otherwise, I go 53 or under and don't really have much of a problem. The wider the wheel the better though.
shop had the 53 conical fulls in 99a. wanted to try the 101a but would rather put money into the shop instead of shopping online, especially in these times. neckface graphic.After riding some really, really wider conicals this is my plan too.
took them for a spin to get some grip in the contact patch and holy fuck they go. the hill nearby my apartment is twice as fast on these spits compared to my mini juices. the usual shit in the street that would try to pitch and kill me was not a problem. as it stands, i might have to get a pair in 56mm for the cruiser and just never ride softies again
i felt the same way. was trying to run radial slims from 52 down to 44mm and i quit at 48. was tired of explaining why i didnt want to skate certain crusty spots and got conical full 53s. these shits roll over anything i swear. can see why people ride the 58s as cruiser wheels, they are much faster than my mini super juice at 55mm 78aIf my feet vibrating to the point where they feel numb I start wanting bigger wheels. Maybe I'm just a wimp? I'm usually in classics tho so wider should help. I gotta go wheel hunting..Expand QuoteExpand QuoteConical fulls. Width helps smooth out crust.Expand Quote53 conical full or tablets? looking for a smoother ride on nyc crust but it's hard to tell the difference just by the measurements spitfire provides[close]
Idk how crusty NYC is but 53-54mm is for smooth-ish ground to me. My homie out there rocked 53's but he probably skipped on extra crusty spots. 55-57mm for real crust?[close]
Meh, biggest thing I've skated for years is 54mm. I live in PA and there's next to nothing that's actually smooth here. I've said it in another thread but I got 54mm pennswood winter tires. They're cruiser wheels(so really soft) taken through a lathe to make them smaller. They've become great for a real crusty spot. Otherwise, I go 53 or under and don't really have much of a problem. The wider the wheel the better though.[close]After riding some really, really wider conicals this is my plan too.Expand Quoteshop had the 53 conical fulls in 99a. wanted to try the 101a but would rather put money into the shop instead of shopping online, especially in these times. neckface graphic.
took them for a spin to get some grip in the contact patch and holy fuck they go. the hill nearby my apartment is twice as fast on these spits compared to my mini juices. the usual shit in the street that would try to pitch and kill me was not a problem. as it stands, i might have to get a pair in 56mm for the cruiser and just never ride softies again[close]
what f4 shape is thisLooks like a radial to me.
the oskis i has werent as wide, i guess these are biggerLooks like a radial to me.Expand Quotewhat f4 shape is this[close]
Oskis, the one with the shirt graphic, are concial. I remember other ones with h a dragon that are radial.the oskis i has werent as wide, i guess these are biggerExpand QuoteLooks like a radial to me.Expand Quotewhat f4 shape is this[close][close]
i guess i am not the only one out of 100+ pages in this, but just want to confirm, may i conclude that the blue ones are 99du & the red/orange? ones are 101du? ohwait, theres green as wellThey usually are labeled near the inner ring of the wheel but yes, blues are usually 99 and red 101. But just read the core if its labeled.
This may sound newby but what wheel feels best for flip tricks?
Round ones are good.Expand QuoteThis may sound newby but what wheel feels best for flip tricks?[close]
Skateboard wheels.
fuck offExpand QuoteThis may sound newby but what wheel feels best for flip tricks?[close]
Skateboard wheels.
I hope your wife/gf gives birth to a millipede and you have to spend the rest of your days slaving away to buy it shoesRound ones are good.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteThis may sound newby but what wheel feels best for flip tricks?[close]
Skateboard wheels.[close]
I just got some 52mm classics to put on my set up instead of the 53mm conical fulls I had been running. Clearly I have not been keeping up with this thread as that seems to be against the general consensus. I got the classics solely because I think they might flip a little better and all I'm doing these days is skating flat in front of my apartment.fuck offExpand QuoteExpand QuoteThis may sound newby but what wheel feels best for flip tricks?[close]
Skateboard wheels.[close]
Been thinking about skating classics, 101 53's. Or maybe 51 101 radial slims/I just got some 52mm classics to put on my set up instead of the 53mm conical fulls I had been running. Clearly I have not been keeping up with this thread as that seems to be against the general consensus. I got the classics solely because I think they might flip a little better and all I'm doing these days is skating flat in front of my apartment.Expand Quotefuck offExpand QuoteExpand QuoteThis may sound newby but what wheel feels best for flip tricks?[close]
Skateboard wheels.[close][close]
hows the difference in feel? Rolling and also flipping?I just got some 52mm classics to put on my set up instead of the 53mm conical fulls I had been running. Clearly I have not been keeping up with this thread as that seems to be against the general consensus. I got the classics solely because I think they might flip a little better and all I'm doing these days is skating flat in front of my apartment.Expand Quotefuck offExpand QuoteExpand QuoteThis may sound newby but what wheel feels best for flip tricks?[close]
Skateboard wheels.[close][close]
For anyone who's ridden both conical full and tablets, do they handle roughish ground the same? they have almost identical contact patch (21.5mm conicals vs 21mm tablet) so theoretically they should ride the same but tablets are lighter so should be easier to flip?
Hoping someone who's ridden both can hook me up with some info. Thanks.
So that way you can a play buddy?I hope your wife/gf gives birth to a millipede and you have to spend the rest of your days slaving away to buy it shoesExpand QuoteRound ones are good.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteThis may sound newby but what wheel feels best for flip tricks?[close]
Skateboard wheels.[close][close]
This may sound newby but what wheel feels best for flip tricks?
Expand QuoteFor anyone who's ridden both conical full and tablets, do they handle roughish ground the same? they have almost identical contact patch (21.5mm conicals vs 21mm tablet) so theoretically they should ride the same but tablets are lighter so should be easier to flip?
Hoping someone who's ridden both can hook me up with some info. Thanks.[close]
They both feel pretty similar in regards to regular riding. The tablets are better for flipping and conical fulls are better all around wheel for parks and street.
I know English isn't your first language, but what are you trying to say?So that way you can a play buddy?Expand QuoteI hope your wife/gf gives birth to a millipede and you have to spend the rest of your days slaving away to buy it shoesExpand QuoteRound ones are good.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteThis may sound newby but what wheel feels best for flip tricks?[close]
Skateboard wheels.[close][close][close]
Chill a bit kid, have a laugh better.
I believe tablets just came out last year? My phases with F4 was Conical Full, lock ins, now I am into Tablets. Game changer for me!!!
No problem man Yeah they feel pretty much the same. I think you'll like them. Definitely worth trying.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteFor anyone who's ridden both conical full and tablets, do they handle roughish ground the same? they have almost identical contact patch (21.5mm conicals vs 21mm tablet) so theoretically they should ride the same but tablets are lighter so should be easier to flip?
Hoping someone who's ridden both can hook me up with some info. Thanks.[close]
They both feel pretty similar in regards to regular riding. The tablets are better for flipping and conical fulls are better all around wheel for parks and street.[close]
thanks bro. if they feel the same-ish cruising over pavement I think I'll dig the tablets. I'm a giant riding an 8.75 so any weight I can shave helps, even if it's only in my head.
Just got some Embers 54mm 99a Conical Fulls. Interested to see how different they feel on rough shit vs. the 51mm 99a Radial Slims I have now.just made this switch in shape and the difference is night and day. better ride, grip, and control with the conical fulls. I did like the radial slims but they are a pain in the ass for crusty streets
just made this switch in shape and the difference is night and day. better ride, grip, and control with the conical fulls. I did like the radial slims but they are a pain in the ass for crusty streetsExpand QuoteJust got some Embers 54mm 99a Conical Fulls. Interested to see how different they feel on rough shit vs. the 51mm 99a Radial Slims I have now.[close]
has anybody tried 58mm Classic Shape F4? Are they good?Yup, they turn into Conicals when they're 54mm
could you explain that a little more? im intriguedYup, they turn into Conicals when they're 54mmExpand Quotehas anybody tried 58mm Classic Shape F4? Are they good?[close]
as they wear down the contact patch gets wider. Because of the classic shape.could you explain that a little more? im intriguedExpand QuoteYup, they turn into Conicals when they're 54mmExpand Quotehas anybody tried 58mm Classic Shape F4? Are they good?[close][close]
Idk why but I bought 58 bigheads a while back. Might as well start using themwas looking at a pair of bigheads on eBay and thinking about this exact wear down process
Idk why but I bought 58 bigheads a while back. Might as well start using themif wheelbite wasnt a thing without risers id be all over those
been on f4 classics the last few years after riding conical fulls before that. just picked up a pair of classic fulls in 56. we'll see how they feel.any update on the classic full shape?
Should I get 101 conical fulls or 101 classics 53mm?conical full
Should I get 101 conical fulls or 101 classics 53mm?
I could see why, I'm almost done with my set of conical 99 53's (Which are now 46mm) The conical fulls roll better imo but I've never skated classics.conical fullExpand QuoteShould I get 101 conical fulls or 101 classics 53mm?[close]
Idek what I skate, Mainly hills and some flat ground, I wanna try to skate vert.Expand QuoteShould I get 101 conical fulls or 101 classics 53mm?[close]
depends on what you skate and what you want out of your wheel, though either way I much prefer 99s
Idek what I skate, Mainly hills and some flat ground, I wanna try to skate vert.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteShould I get 101 conical fulls or 101 classics 53mm?[close]
depends on what you skate and what you want out of your wheel, though either way I much prefer 99s[close]
Where I live in Iowa the ground can get a little crusty but other than that it's fine. I live in a small farm town, so most of the streets here were built 200 sum years ago.Expand QuoteIdek what I skate, Mainly hills and some flat ground, I wanna try to skate vert.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteShould I get 101 conical fulls or 101 classics 53mm?[close]
depends on what you skate and what you want out of your wheel, though either way I much prefer 99s[close][close]
Classics are worse on shitty ground, but have a slimmer profile and a lighter so a bit easier to flip than chunky wheels. Conical fulls will handle hills and probably tranny better. Classics with the rounded edge seem to slappy a bit easier imo. You also get a little more truck space with classics for grinds.
Conical full, on 99, is your wheelIdek what I skate, Mainly hills and some flat ground, I wanna try to skate vert.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteShould I get 101 conical fulls or 101 classics 53mm?[close]
depends on what you skate and what you want out of your wheel, though either way I much prefer 99s[close]
99 feels a bit soft to me though, I rely on that extra bit of slide on 180's and powerslides, perhaps you're right...Conical full, on 99, is your wheelExpand QuoteIdek what I skate, Mainly hills and some flat ground, I wanna try to skate vert.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteShould I get 101 conical fulls or 101 classics 53mm?[close]
depends on what you skate and what you want out of your wheel, though either way I much prefer 99s[close][close]
F4 99s slide just fine. I'm on some 101s right now and I definitely prefer the 99s. The 101s are just a little too icy for me. More of a ledgetarian wheel than a hill bomber.I could see that, I had a pair of 101 conical fulls that felt really good on certain hills, depends on the type of concrete, if it was that smooth tar stuff then it felt way to icy.
any update on the classic full shape?http://www.35thave.com/shop/Skate/Wheels/Spitfire/p/Spitfire-Formula-Four-Ransom-Classic-Full-56mm-99a-x48980911.htm
any update on the classic full shape?http://www.35thave.com/shop/Skate/Wheels/Spitfire/p/Spitfire-Formula-Four-Ransom-Classic-Full-56mm-99a-x48980911.htm
A classic full is basically a radial with a smaller contact patch if anyone was wondering. I have a 54mm classic full lance mountain next to some 54mm kader radials and it looks like the same shape to the untrained eyeI need visuals and dimensions haha. Classic full like between a classic and a radial, but OG classic like a conical full? and bigheads are...?
when the 54's coming
I shit you not it’s literally this close hahaI need visuals and dimensions haha. Classic full like between a classic and a radial, but OG classic like a conical full? and bigheads are...?Expand QuoteA classic full is basically a radial with a smaller contact patch if anyone was wondering. I have a 54mm classic full lance mountain next to some 54mm kader radials and it looks like the same shape to the untrained eye[close]
Not what you asked but just in case:I need visuals and dimensions haha. Classic full like between a classic and a radial, but OG classic like a conical full? and bigheads are...?Expand QuoteA classic full is basically a radial with a smaller contact patch if anyone was wondering. I have a 54mm classic full lance mountain next to some 54mm kader radials and it looks like the same shape to the untrained eye[close]
Slim pickings out there in the distribution world for F4 right now . Literally can’t find one set of wheels
My local has a good selection. Free shipping if you happen to be in TXExpand QuoteSlim pickings out there in the distribution world for F4 right now . Literally can’t find one set of wheels[close]
Follow the Spitfire and dlxsf IG stories. They regularly post which shops got new shipments of F4 wheels in.
I would imagine they are beyond inundated with existing orders and not getting to any new projects so doubtful a 54 will be out soon. Basically if you see a wheel that is close to the shape and size you want you should buy it because in a month or so there may be even less options.
I have looked far and wide for the perfect set up that restores my youth, but more importantly restores my 360 flips and kickflips. Because I don’t really feel like I’m skating unless I can land those. No luck yet.
56s will be 54s soon enough. And you might like 56s. The COVID has helped me make do with what I have, still get out and have fun, and these ideals or preferences I have don’t change much in the way of results.
We used to buy what the place had, not saying that’s the best route as a consumer, but Goldilocks wouldn’t have been so picky in a pandemic.QuoteExpand Quotewhen the 54's coming[close]
Expand QuoteSlim pickings out there in the distribution world for F4 right now . Literally can’t find one set of wheels[close]
Follow the Spitfire and dlxsf IG stories. They regularly post which shops got new shipments of F4 wheels in.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteSlim pickings out there in the distribution world for F4 right now . Literally can’t find one set of wheels[close]
Follow the Spitfire and dlxsf IG stories. They regularly post which shops got new shipments of F4 wheels in.[close]
I am actually trying to purchase wheels for a shop. deluxe just hasn’t gotten back to us, we’ve been open over a year , and still nothing in terms of getting hooked up direct thru them, so we use AWH/ Eastern.
My local has a good selection. Free shipping if you happen to be in TXExpand QuoteExpand QuoteSlim pickings out there in the distribution world for F4 right now . Literally can’t find one set of wheels[close]
Follow the Spitfire and dlxsf IG stories. They regularly post which shops got new shipments of F4 wheels in.[close]
https://nocomplyatx.com/collections/wheels
Expand QuoteMy local has a good selection. Free shipping if you happen to be in TXExpand QuoteExpand QuoteSlim pickings out there in the distribution world for F4 right now . Literally can’t find one set of wheels[close]
Follow the Spitfire and dlxsf IG stories. They regularly post which shops got new shipments of F4 wheels in.[close]
https://nocomplyatx.com/collections/wheels[close]
Such a dope shop.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteMy local has a good selection. Free shipping if you happen to be in TXExpand QuoteExpand QuoteSlim pickings out there in the distribution world for F4 right now . Literally can’t find one set of wheels[close]
Follow the Spitfire and dlxsf IG stories. They regularly post which shops got new shipments of F4 wheels in.[close]
https://nocomplyatx.com/collections/wheels[close]
Such a dope shop.[close]
Was my goto when I lived there.
Plenty of classics at Tactics: https://www.tactics.com/spitfire/formula-four-classic-skateboard-wheels/white-orange-classic-swirl-99d
i've been a bones guy for a long time now but i want to try spitfires are. i never see a spitfire shape like the bones v3 though
i've been a bones guy for a long time now but i want to try spitfires are. i never see a spitfire shape like the bones v3 though
Expand Quotei've been a bones guy for a long time now but i want to try spitfires are. i never see a spitfire shape like the bones v3 though[close]
There really isn't one since Spit doesn't have a 'slim' tech wheel; Radial slims are closer to the BONES V2
The V3 is basically a skinny V1, so the old Reynold's classic slim would have been the closest.
Expand QuoteExpand Quotei've been a bones guy for a long time now but i want to try spitfires are. i never see a spitfire shape like the bones v3 though[close]
There really isn't one since Spit doesn't have a 'slim' tech wheel; Radial slims are closer to the BONES V2
The V3 is basically a skinny V1, so the old Reynold's classic slim would have been the closest.[close]
about 4 years ago, Reynolds had an f4 wheel on spit called the “classic slim” had them in 52..not bad.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quotei've been a bones guy for a long time now but i want to try spitfires are. i never see a spitfire shape like the bones v3 though[close]
There really isn't one since Spit doesn't have a 'slim' tech wheel; Radial slims are closer to the BONES V2
The V3 is basically a skinny V1, so the old Reynold's classic slim would have been the closest.[close]
about 4 years ago, Reynolds had an f4 wheel on spit called the “classic slim” had them in 52..not bad.[close]
Those were great for smooth ground but fucked for anything less than perfect.
I think I had a pair of these in 52 in 101d.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quotei've been a bones guy for a long time now but i want to try spitfires are. i never see a spitfire shape like the bones v3 though[close]
There really isn't one since Spit doesn't have a 'slim' tech wheel; Radial slims are closer to the BONES V2
The V3 is basically a skinny V1, so the old Reynold's classic slim would have been the closest.[close]
about 4 years ago, Reynolds had an f4 wheel on spit called the “classic slim” had them in 52..not bad.[close]
Those were great for smooth ground but fucked for anything less than perfect.[close]
very true.
I think I had a pair of these in 52 in 101d.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quotei've been a bones guy for a long time now but i want to try spitfires are. i never see a spitfire shape like the bones v3 though[close]
There really isn't one since Spit doesn't have a 'slim' tech wheel; Radial slims are closer to the BONES V2
The V3 is basically a skinny V1, so the old Reynold's classic slim would have been the closest.[close]
about 4 years ago, Reynolds had an f4 wheel on spit called the “classic slim” had them in 52..not bad.[close]
Those were great for smooth ground but fucked for anything less than perfect.[close]
very true.[close]
Hmm then maybe my classics felt small. I am probably wrong.Expand QuoteI think I had a pair of these in 52 in 101d.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quotei've been a bones guy for a long time now but i want to try spitfires are. i never see a spitfire shape like the bones v3 though[close]
There really isn't one since Spit doesn't have a 'slim' tech wheel; Radial slims are closer to the BONES V2
The V3 is basically a skinny V1, so the old Reynold's classic slim would have been the closest.[close]
about 4 years ago, Reynolds had an f4 wheel on spit called the “classic slim” had them in 52..not bad.[close]
Those were great for smooth ground but fucked for anything less than perfect.[close]
very true.[close][close]
The one drop was in 99a, which is why I didn't buy them.
I usually skate conical full 54mm, I got AA wheel in 53mm since 54 was not available. Should have gone to 55mm, I can't feel the benefits of smaller wheel, but I can definitely feel the smaller contact patch on rough grounds.thank you. havent had conical fulls yet, but nothing but 54 + it is
Come to think of it I might have had those. I need to look in my storage but I think the graphic was him in a beanie?Expand QuoteExpand Quotei've been a bones guy for a long time now but i want to try spitfires are. i never see a spitfire shape like the bones v3 though[close]
There really isn't one since Spit doesn't have a 'slim' tech wheel; Radial slims are closer to the BONES V2
The V3 is basically a skinny V1, so the old Reynold's classic slim would have been the closest.[close]
about 4 years ago, Reynolds had an f4 wheel on spit called the “classic slim” had them in 52..not bad.
It's a lady with a tommy gun.Come to think of it I might have had those. I need to look in my storage but I think the graphic was him in a beanie?Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quotei've been a bones guy for a long time now but i want to try spitfires are. i never see a spitfire shape like the bones v3 though[close]
There really isn't one since Spit doesn't have a 'slim' tech wheel; Radial slims are closer to the BONES V2
The V3 is basically a skinny V1, so the old Reynold's classic slim would have been the closest.[close]
about 4 years ago, Reynolds had an f4 wheel on spit called the “classic slim” had them in 52..not bad.[close]
Good reference images
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Anybody had this happen? Put bearings in this set of radial slims and when I went today to set them up noticed one of the wheels had split entirely to the core....sent in a note to DLX so let's see. (https://i.ibb.co/cNZDM5d/IMG-20200517-112447.jpg)never have i ever
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Anyone try the tablets and have switched back to something else ?
Expand QuoteAnyone try the tablets and have switched back to something else ?[close]
Yeah they weren't bad by any means, no spitfire f4 is bad, but I definitely prefer radial slims over tablets. Some may feel the opposite.
What's going on here?never have i everExpand QuoteAnybody had this happen? Put bearings in this set of radial slims and when I went today to set them up noticed one of the wheels had split entirely to the core....sent in a note to DLX so let's see. (https://i.ibb.co/cNZDM5d/IMG-20200517-112447.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/PNbTY80/IMG-20200517-112436.jpg)[close]
Currently on tablets and I have a set of radial slims in 99a on their way this week. I tend to go back and fourth between radial slims classics and now tablets but to me the radial slims and tablets are pretty similarExpand QuoteExpand QuoteAnyone try the tablets and have switched back to something else ?[close]
Yeah they weren't bad by any means, no spitfire f4 is bad, but I definitely prefer radial slims over tablets. Some may feel the opposite.[close]
What did you like about the radial slims over the tablets ?
Thanks for the info by the way
see i loved radial slims and im liking the conical fulls. have a feeling tablets are in the middle of both? or do they feel much clunkier?Currently on tablets and I have a set of radial slims in 99a on their way this week. I tend to go back and fourth between radial slims classics and now tablets but to me the radial slims and tablets are pretty similarExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteAnyone try the tablets and have switched back to something else ?[close]
Yeah they weren't bad by any means, no spitfire f4 is bad, but I definitely prefer radial slims over tablets. Some may feel the opposite.[close]
What did you like about the radial slims over the tablets ?
Thanks for the info by the way[close]
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteAnyone try the tablets and have switched back to something else ?[close]
Yeah they weren't bad by any means, no spitfire f4 is bad, but I definitely prefer radial slims over tablets. Some may feel the opposite.[close]
What did you like about the radial slims over the tablets ?
Thanks for the info by the way
What's going on here?Expand Quotenever have i everExpand QuoteAnybody had this happen? Put bearings in this set of radial slims and when I went today to set them up noticed one of the wheels had split entirely to the core....sent in a note to DLX so let's see. (https://i.ibb.co/cNZDM5d/IMG-20200517-112447.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/PNbTY80/IMG-20200517-112436.jpg)[close][close]
First time seeing sth like that.
Anybody had this happen? Put bearings in this set of radial slims and when I went today to set them up noticed one of the wheels had split entirely to the core....sent in a note to DLX so let's see. (https://i.ibb.co/cNZDM5d/IMG-20200517-112447.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/PNbTY80/IMG-20200517-112436.jpg)
Anybody had this happen? Put bearings in this set of radial slims and when I went today to set them up noticed one of the wheels had split entirely to the core....sent in a note to DLX so let's see. (https://i.ibb.co/cNZDM5d/IMG-20200517-112447.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/PNbTY80/IMG-20200517-112436.jpg)
Can anyone recommend me a shape of formula 4's? I've skated for 15 years and never ridden anything but 53mm STF V3's. Always just stuck with what I know I suppose, but these current set are starting to get pretty worn down and I've found I wanna try something new, seems F4's are by far the most recommended wheel.
I've been eyeing up conical slims or just regular conicals. What advantages do the wider contact patch really have? Mainly a park skater, ledges, transition. Not really too technical. Anything else to consider? Cheers!
Can anyone recommend me a shape of formula 4's? I've skated for 15 years and never ridden anything but 53mm STF V3's. Always just stuck with what I know I suppose, but these current set are starting to get pretty worn down and I've found I wanna try something new, seems F4's are by far the most recommended wheel.
I've been eyeing up conical slims or just regular conicals. What advantages do the wider contact patch really have? Mainly a park skater, ledges, transition. Not really too technical. Anything else to consider? Cheers!
Does anyone really notice the difference between f4 101 and 99.I only notice the different on power slides really. I would go 99a for almost everything
Currently riding 101 f4 classic shapes. The terrain in my town is pretty shitty so I'd like something a bit softer.
I'm strapped for cash though so not sure if the investment is worth it
Definitely prefer 99s, just that little bit more forgiving on less than perfect ground.
I might get the classic formula spits in the OG classic shape (exact same as conical full??) to switch things up. Will they feel a decent amount smoother on rough?
nice good call. Smoothness? Any comparisons there? Dont mind so much the grip, makes complete sense though.Expand QuoteI might get the classic formula spits in the OG classic shape (exact same as conical full??) to switch things up. Will they feel a decent amount smoother on rough?[close]
i love og classics. i live in NY so they feel good to me for all around shit. definitely more of noticeable grip compared to f4s.(still prefer f4s in a park or anything super smooth) the difference is there but its not drastic, you can still slide them but may just feel more resistance
I see 101's on the package and my knees are likei skate cupsolesand looking to get footprint orthotics so that should balance it out
N a h
i skate cupsolesand looking to get footprint orthotics so that should balance it outExpand QuoteI see 101's on the package and my knees are like
N a h[close]
nice good call. Smoothness? Any comparisons there? Dont mind so much the grip, makes complete sense though.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI might get the classic formula spits in the OG classic shape (exact same as conical full??) to switch things up. Will they feel a decent amount smoother on rough?[close]
i love og classics. i live in NY so they feel good to me for all around shit. definitely more of noticeable grip compared to f4s.(still prefer f4s in a park or anything super smooth) the difference is there but its not drastic, you can still slide them but may just feel more resistance[close]
Expand Quotei skate cupsolesand looking to get footprint orthotics so that should balance it outExpand QuoteI see 101's on the package and my knees are like
N a h[close][close]
101s+FP insoles+shit streets still means rattled teeth and sore knees
Wood and crust 99s
Park and plazas 101/103+
Anybody had this happen? Put bearings in this set of radial slims and when I went today to set them up noticed one of the wheels had split entirely to the core....sent in a note to DLX so let's see. (https://i.ibb.co/cNZDM5d/IMG-20200517-112447.jpg)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euI3v2jpTlI
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hell yeah thank you was looking for days. looks like per their IG a few hours ago they just got a shipment in
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https://laborskateshop.com/collections/wheels/products/formula-four-99d-conical-full-56mm?variant=30985205874790
Expand Quotenice good call. Smoothness? Any comparisons there? Dont mind so much the grip, makes complete sense though.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI might get the classic formula spits in the OG classic shape (exact same as conical full??) to switch things up. Will they feel a decent amount smoother on rough?[close]
i love og classics. i live in NY so they feel good to me for all around shit. definitely more of noticeable grip compared to f4s.(still prefer f4s in a park or anything super smooth) the difference is there but its not drastic, you can still slide them but may just feel more resistance[close][close]
the smoothness is definitely less noticeable than on f4s. i feel like you cant compare to the smoothness of an f4. the og classics have very tiny tread on the wheels where they contact the ground. they also are more susceptible to flatspotting than an f4 but that should go without saying. i def recommend a pair, theyre my favorite shaped/looking wheel out
I thought bigheads and classics were the same shape?
always liked bigheads for the graphic on them, but have love for the swirl now. but if bigheads are wider I might have to snag a set.
I've been skating 52-53mm for ever now but recently I was only able to find 56mm. I thought I'd be bummed that they would be too big but I'm actually hyped on them. Full conical 99d 56mm the new go toOn what trucks/height? Considering 56mm conical fulls w 53.5mm high venture 6.1
On what trucks/height? Considering 56mm conical fulls w 53.5mm high venture 6.1Expand QuoteI've been skating 52-53mm for ever now but recently I was only able to find 56mm. I thought I'd be bummed that they would be too big but I'm actually hyped on them. Full conical 99d 56mm the new go to[close]
Anybody had this happen? Put bearings in this set of radial slims and when I went today to set them up noticed one of the wheels had split entirely to the core....sent in a note to DLX so let's see. (https://i.ibb.co/cNZDM5d/IMG-20200517-112447.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/PNbTY80/IMG-20200517-112436.jpg)
I really wanna try out some OG classics. Are the SFW's just non-formula four lock ins?
This isn't a Spitfire specific question but I only ride Spitfire, so I'm dropping it here. Do conical, radial and the other shapes with a wide riding service cone at the same rate/manner as the classic shapes? Has anyone ever paid attention to this? Peace.
Expand QuoteThis isn't a Spitfire specific question but I only ride Spitfire, so I'm dropping it here. Do conical, radial and the other shapes with a wide riding service cone at the same rate/manner as the classic shapes? Has anyone ever paid attention to this? Peace.[close]
they don't necessarily cone faster but personally I have found it more noticeable on conicals since they have that more squared shape. All you need to do is rotate them like once per month, or I do whenever I switch decks.
Just get the Indy skate tool with the rethreader thingy (or any other brand that has that)Expand QuoteExpand QuoteThis isn't a Spitfire specific question but I only ride Spitfire, so I'm dropping it here. Do conical, radial and the other shapes with a wide riding service cone at the same rate/manner as the classic shapes? Has anyone ever paid attention to this? Peace.[close]
they don't necessarily cone faster but personally I have found it more noticeable on conicals since they have that more squared shape. All you need to do is rotate them like once per month, or I do whenever I switch decks.[close]
Thanks, that's what I figured. I hate taking the wheels off the axles because I'm worried I'll never get the nut to thread correctly again. But that's a topic for another thread.
Just get the Indy skate tool with the rethreader thingy (or any other brand that has that)Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteThis isn't a Spitfire specific question but I only ride Spitfire, so I'm dropping it here. Do conical, radial and the other shapes with a wide riding service cone at the same rate/manner as the classic shapes? Has anyone ever paid attention to this? Peace.[close]
they don't necessarily cone faster but personally I have found it more noticeable on conicals since they have that more squared shape. All you need to do is rotate them like once per month, or I do whenever I switch decks.[close]
Thanks, that's what I figured. I hate taking the wheels off the axles because I'm worried I'll never get the nut to thread correctly again. But that's a topic for another thread.[close]
https://www.ebay.com/itm/143634633456
Wtf is this??
Seller has bunch of other F4 bundles
Item Location: Japanbe careful too because a few Local shops in Japan have recently reported individual sellers selling fake F4s on places like eBay and mericari etc.
Then for me it says "This item does not ship to Japan".
I guess because you will go to prison selling counterfeit items here or the vendor is scared a local buyer would come track them down and then not bow when they greeted them and demanded a refund.
Also, a good way to be publicly shamed in the local newspaper.
Edit: Or perhaps they aren't fakes and this is why we rarely have Spitfires here for the past year. This guy is a postal Ninja and intercepts all shipments to shops containing Formula Fours!
be careful too because a few Local shops in Japan have recently reported individual sellers selling fake F4s on places like eBay and mericari etc.Expand QuoteItem Location: Japan
Then for me it says "This item does not ship to Japan".
I guess because you will go to prison selling counterfeit items here or the vendor is scared a local buyer would come track them down and then not bow when they greeted them and demanded a refund.
Also, a good way to be publicly shamed in the local newspaper.
Edit: Or perhaps they aren't fakes and this is why we rarely have Spitfires here for the past year. This guy is a postal Ninja and intercepts all shipments to shops containing Formula Fours![close]
be careful too because a few Local shops in Japan have recently reported individual sellers selling fake F4s on places like eBay and mericari etc.Expand QuoteItem Location: Japan
Then for me it says "This item does not ship to Japan".
I guess because you will go to prison selling counterfeit items here or the vendor is scared a local buyer would come track them down and then not bow when they greeted them and demanded a refund.
Also, a good way to be publicly shamed in the local newspaper.
Edit: Or perhaps they aren't fakes and this is why we rarely have Spitfires here for the past year. This guy is a postal Ninja and intercepts all shipments to shops containing Formula Fours![close]
Has anyone seen some 101 52mm conical fulls recently? Can’t find a pair to save my lifehttps://www.ebay.com/itm/224050372591
Has anyone seen some 101 52mm conical fulls recently? Can’t find a pair to save my life
supExpand QuoteJust get the Indy skate tool with the rethreader thingy (or any other brand that has that)Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteThis isn't a Spitfire specific question but I only ride Spitfire, so I'm dropping it here. Do conical, radial and the other shapes with a wide riding service cone at the same rate/manner as the classic shapes? Has anyone ever paid attention to this? Peace.[close]
they don't necessarily cone faster but personally I have found it more noticeable on conicals since they have that more squared shape. All you need to do is rotate them like once per month, or I do whenever I switch decks.[close]
Thanks, that's what I figured. I hate taking the wheels off the axles because I'm worried I'll never get the nut to thread correctly again. But that's a topic for another thread.[close][close]
Juanjo789 got your cure
So what’s the deal with the lack of formula fours literally anywhere? I don’t change wheels very often but I’m in desperate need of a new set and Skate Warehouse doesn’t even have them as a list of brands in the wheels section.
So what’s the deal with the lack of formula fours literally anywhere? I don’t change wheels very often but I’m in desperate need of a new set and Skate Warehouse doesn’t even have them as a list of brands in the wheels section.
My 99a conical fulls are just crazy rough on my local crusty streets. Jarring even conical fulls. Do I need to give me break in time? I also had very hard time getting bearings in. Might’ve been bc they were delivered today via 90°+ usps truck?Ya, my 54mm 99a conical fulls ended being the same on my streets (no trouble with the bearings, though). My older 51mm 99a Radial Slims actually felt a little bit better over the same terrain, which was surprising.
But had better luck/feeling with classic formula. I’m sure at parks or smooth paved ground they’re amazing but I just can’t find
Ya, my 54mm 99a conical fulls ended being the same on my streets (no trouble with the bearings, though). My older 51mm 99a Radial Slims actually felt a little bit better over the same terrain, which was surprising.Expand QuoteMy 99a conical fulls are just crazy rough on my local crusty streets. Jarring even conical fulls. Do I need to give me break in time? I also had very hard time getting bearings in. Might’ve been bc they were delivered today via 90°+ usps truck?
But had better luck/feeling with classic formula. I’m sure at parks or smooth paved ground they’re amazing but I just can’t find[close]
ok good to hear it’s not just me.. interested to hear more detail on that. Did the 99-101 formulas change at all?Expand QuoteYa, my 54mm 99a conical fulls ended being the same on my streets (no trouble with the bearings, though). My older 51mm 99a Radial Slims actually felt a little bit better over the same terrain, which was surprising.Expand QuoteMy 99a conical fulls are just crazy rough on my local crusty streets. Jarring even conical fulls. Do I need to give me break in time? I also had very hard time getting bearings in. Might’ve been bc they were delivered today via 90°+ usps truck?
But had better luck/feeling with classic formula. I’m sure at parks or smooth paved ground they’re amazing but I just can’t find[close][close]
On day 1 my 99a (conical full) were louder than my past 101s (tablets), feel rougher on the feet, and slide just as easy. The 101s were feeling good at my usual spots (mix of crust and smooth) but when riding round the city they’d ice so bad on quick turns. I can’t judge em off the first session but like you, I hope these break in well because they seem the opposite of what I was looking for.
I'd be interested in how either of those compare if you end up getting them.ok good to hear it’s not just me.. interested to hear more detail on that. Did the 99-101 formulas change at all?Expand QuoteExpand QuoteYa, my 54mm 99a conical fulls ended being the same on my streets (no trouble with the bearings, though). My older 51mm 99a Radial Slims actually felt a little bit better over the same terrain, which was surprising.Expand QuoteMy 99a conical fulls are just crazy rough on my local crusty streets. Jarring even conical fulls. Do I need to give me break in time? I also had very hard time getting bearings in. Might’ve been bc they were delivered today via 90°+ usps truck?
But had better luck/feeling with classic formula. I’m sure at parks or smooth paved ground they’re amazing but I just can’t find[close][close]
On day 1 my 99a (conical full) were louder than my past 101s (tablets), feel rougher on the feet, and slide just as easy. The 101s were feeling good at my usual spots (mix of crust and smooth) but when riding round the city they’d ice so bad on quick turns. I can’t judge em off the first session but like you, I hope these break in well because they seem the opposite of what I was looking for.[close]
might just try OG classics or SPF mike Anderson’s
What's the closest thing to a formula 4 clone? If they can't be gotten
What's the closest thing to a formula 4 clone? If they can't be gottenAs much as a lot of people will disagree on this, I’d say STFs (the 83b ones) are pretty damn similar in feel and slideability to the 101a F4s. Definitely not the 99a F4s tho.
Expand QuoteWhat's the closest thing to a formula 4 clone? If they can't be gotten[close]
I'd say loophole
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteWhat's the closest thing to a formula 4 clone? If they can't be gotten[close]
I'd say loophole[close]
ok good to hear it’s not just me.. interested to hear more detail on that. Did the 99-101 formulas change at all?Expand QuoteExpand QuoteYa, my 54mm 99a conical fulls ended being the same on my streets (no trouble with the bearings, though). My older 51mm 99a Radial Slims actually felt a little bit better over the same terrain, which was surprising.Expand QuoteMy 99a conical fulls are just crazy rough on my local crusty streets. Jarring even conical fulls. Do I need to give me break in time? I also had very hard time getting bearings in. Might’ve been bc they were delivered today via 90°+ usps truck?
But had better luck/feeling with classic formula. I’m sure at parks or smooth paved ground they’re amazing but I just can’t find[close][close]
On day 1 my 99a (conical full) were louder than my past 101s (tablets), feel rougher on the feet, and slide just as easy. The 101s were feeling good at my usual spots (mix of crust and smooth) but when riding round the city they’d ice so bad on quick turns. I can’t judge em off the first session but like you, I hope these break in well because they seem the opposite of what I was looking for.[close]
might just try OG classics or SPF mike Anderson’s
mini logo hybrid 90a? come in a-cut or classic shapeExpand Quoteok good to hear it’s not just me.. interested to hear more detail on that. Did the 99-101 formulas change at all?Expand QuoteExpand QuoteYa, my 54mm 99a conical fulls ended being the same on my streets (no trouble with the bearings, though). My older 51mm 99a Radial Slims actually felt a little bit better over the same terrain, which was surprising.Expand QuoteMy 99a conical fulls are just crazy rough on my local crusty streets. Jarring even conical fulls. Do I need to give me break in time? I also had very hard time getting bearings in. Might’ve been bc they were delivered today via 90°+ usps truck?
But had better luck/feeling with classic formula. I’m sure at parks or smooth paved ground they’re amazing but I just can’t find[close][close]
On day 1 my 99a (conical full) were louder than my past 101s (tablets), feel rougher on the feet, and slide just as easy. The 101s were feeling good at my usual spots (mix of crust and smooth) but when riding round the city they’d ice so bad on quick turns. I can’t judge em off the first session but like you, I hope these break in well because they seem the opposite of what I was looking for.[close]
might just try OG classics or SPF mike Anderson’s[close]
Okay, I thought I was crazy. I feel the same way. I have a pretty recent set of 52mm/99a F4 Conical Fulls and they feel unreasonably hard to me. Really rough, jarring ride in the streets. I want to like them and I keep waiting for them to break in, but they're just not any fun to ride. I wish OJ would bring back the 92a Ditch Witch wheels. Anybody else making a 92a modern shape wheel these days?
mini logo hybrid 90a? come in a-cut or classic shapeExpand QuoteExpand Quoteok good to hear it’s not just me.. interested to hear more detail on that. Did the 99-101 formulas change at all?Expand QuoteExpand QuoteYa, my 54mm 99a conical fulls ended being the same on my streets (no trouble with the bearings, though). My older 51mm 99a Radial Slims actually felt a little bit better over the same terrain, which was surprising.Expand QuoteMy 99a conical fulls are just crazy rough on my local crusty streets. Jarring even conical fulls. Do I need to give me break in time? I also had very hard time getting bearings in. Might’ve been bc they were delivered today via 90°+ usps truck?
But had better luck/feeling with classic formula. I’m sure at parks or smooth paved ground they’re amazing but I just can’t find[close][close]
On day 1 my 99a (conical full) were louder than my past 101s (tablets), feel rougher on the feet, and slide just as easy. The 101s were feeling good at my usual spots (mix of crust and smooth) but when riding round the city they’d ice so bad on quick turns. I can’t judge em off the first session but like you, I hope these break in well because they seem the opposite of what I was looking for.[close]
might just try OG classics or SPF mike Anderson’s[close]
Okay, I thought I was crazy. I feel the same way. I have a pretty recent set of 52mm/99a F4 Conical Fulls and they feel unreasonably hard to me. Really rough, jarring ride in the streets. I want to like them and I keep waiting for them to break in, but they're just not any fun to ride. I wish OJ would bring back the 92a Ditch Witch wheels. Anybody else making a 92a modern shape wheel these days?[close]
Expand Quotemini logo hybrid 90a? come in a-cut or classic shapeExpand QuoteExpand Quoteok good to hear it’s not just me.. interested to hear more detail on that. Did the 99-101 formulas change at all?Expand QuoteExpand QuoteYa, my 54mm 99a conical fulls ended being the same on my streets (no trouble with the bearings, though). My older 51mm 99a Radial Slims actually felt a little bit better over the same terrain, which was surprising.Expand QuoteMy 99a conical fulls are just crazy rough on my local crusty streets. Jarring even conical fulls. Do I need to give me break in time? I also had very hard time getting bearings in. Might’ve been bc they were delivered today via 90°+ usps truck?
But had better luck/feeling with classic formula. I’m sure at parks or smooth paved ground they’re amazing but I just can’t find[close][close]
On day 1 my 99a (conical full) were louder than my past 101s (tablets), feel rougher on the feet, and slide just as easy. The 101s were feeling good at my usual spots (mix of crust and smooth) but when riding round the city they’d ice so bad on quick turns. I can’t judge em off the first session but like you, I hope these break in well because they seem the opposite of what I was looking for.[close]
might just try OG classics or SPF mike Anderson’s[close]
Okay, I thought I was crazy. I feel the same way. I have a pretty recent set of 52mm/99a F4 Conical Fulls and they feel unreasonably hard to me. Really rough, jarring ride in the streets. I want to like them and I keep waiting for them to break in, but they're just not any fun to ride. I wish OJ would bring back the 92a Ditch Witch wheels. Anybody else making a 92a modern shape wheel these days?[close][close]
Think I’ll check those out, thank you!
ha, Solstice asking how. Someone replied saying Mexico is back online? As in the factory back to producing?
VU just got a massive shipment in. No connection to the shop but have dealt with them before and they are great people.
ha, Solstice asking how. Someone replied saying Mexico is back online? As in the factory back to producing?Expand Quote
VU just got a massive shipment in. No connection to the shop but have dealt with them before and they are great people.[close]
The 95a’s are chill, I have a set in black, they are pretty bouncy and soft feeling but still slide when I do back 180s. I wanna get a set in white sometime instead of black. They ride over crusty ditches really well too.Expand QuoteExpand Quotemini logo hybrid 90a? come in a-cut or classic shapeExpand QuoteExpand Quoteok good to hear it’s not just me.. interested to hear more detail on that. Did the 99-101 formulas change at all?Expand QuoteExpand QuoteYa, my 54mm 99a conical fulls ended being the same on my streets (no trouble with the bearings, though). My older 51mm 99a Radial Slims actually felt a little bit better over the same terrain, which was surprising.Expand QuoteMy 99a conical fulls are just crazy rough on my local crusty streets. Jarring even conical fulls. Do I need to give me break in time? I also had very hard time getting bearings in. Might’ve been bc they were delivered today via 90°+ usps truck?
But had better luck/feeling with classic formula. I’m sure at parks or smooth paved ground they’re amazing but I just can’t find[close][close]
On day 1 my 99a (conical full) were louder than my past 101s (tablets), feel rougher on the feet, and slide just as easy. The 101s were feeling good at my usual spots (mix of crust and smooth) but when riding round the city they’d ice so bad on quick turns. I can’t judge em off the first session but like you, I hope these break in well because they seem the opposite of what I was looking for.[close]
might just try OG classics or SPF mike Anderson’s[close]
Okay, I thought I was crazy. I feel the same way. I have a pretty recent set of 52mm/99a F4 Conical Fulls and they feel unreasonably hard to me. Really rough, jarring ride in the streets. I want to like them and I keep waiting for them to break in, but they're just not any fun to ride. I wish OJ would bring back the 92a Ditch Witch wheels. Anybody else making a 92a modern shape wheel these days?[close][close]
Think I’ll check those out, thank you![close]
Mini logo 90a definetly feel softer than 90a. I have keyframes and they feel the same.
What about ML 95a?
What shape 95a do you have? Need to keep an eye out for the whites for cheapThe 95a’s are chill, I have a set in black, they are pretty bouncy and soft feeling but still slide when I do back 180s. I wanna get a set in white sometime instead of black. They ride over crusty ditches really well too.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quotemini logo hybrid 90a? come in a-cut or classic shapeExpand QuoteExpand Quoteok good to hear it’s not just me.. interested to hear more detail on that. Did the 99-101 formulas change at all?Expand QuoteExpand QuoteYa, my 54mm 99a conical fulls ended being the same on my streets (no trouble with the bearings, though). My older 51mm 99a Radial Slims actually felt a little bit better over the same terrain, which was surprising.Expand QuoteMy 99a conical fulls are just crazy rough on my local crusty streets. Jarring even conical fulls. Do I need to give me break in time? I also had very hard time getting bearings in. Might’ve been bc they were delivered today via 90°+ usps truck?
But had better luck/feeling with classic formula. I’m sure at parks or smooth paved ground they’re amazing but I just can’t find[close][close]
On day 1 my 99a (conical full) were louder than my past 101s (tablets), feel rougher on the feet, and slide just as easy. The 101s were feeling good at my usual spots (mix of crust and smooth) but when riding round the city they’d ice so bad on quick turns. I can’t judge em off the first session but like you, I hope these break in well because they seem the opposite of what I was looking for.[close]
might just try OG classics or SPF mike Anderson’s[close]
Okay, I thought I was crazy. I feel the same way. I have a pretty recent set of 52mm/99a F4 Conical Fulls and they feel unreasonably hard to me. Really rough, jarring ride in the streets. I want to like them and I keep waiting for them to break in, but they're just not any fun to ride. I wish OJ would bring back the 92a Ditch Witch wheels. Anybody else making a 92a modern shape wheel these days?[close][close]
Think I’ll check those out, thank you![close]
Mini logo 90a definetly feel softer than 90a. I have keyframes and they feel the same.
What about ML 95a?[close]
A CutWhat shape 95a do you have? Need to keep an eye out for the whites for cheapExpand QuoteThe 95a’s are chill, I have a set in black, they are pretty bouncy and soft feeling but still slide when I do back 180s. I wanna get a set in white sometime instead of black. They ride over crusty ditches really well too.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quotemini logo hybrid 90a? come in a-cut or classic shapeExpand QuoteExpand Quoteok good to hear it’s not just me.. interested to hear more detail on that. Did the 99-101 formulas change at all?Expand QuoteExpand QuoteYa, my 54mm 99a conical fulls ended being the same on my streets (no trouble with the bearings, though). My older 51mm 99a Radial Slims actually felt a little bit better over the same terrain, which was surprising.Expand QuoteMy 99a conical fulls are just crazy rough on my local crusty streets. Jarring even conical fulls. Do I need to give me break in time? I also had very hard time getting bearings in. Might’ve been bc they were delivered today via 90°+ usps truck?
But had better luck/feeling with classic formula. I’m sure at parks or smooth paved ground they’re amazing but I just can’t find[close][close]
On day 1 my 99a (conical full) were louder than my past 101s (tablets), feel rougher on the feet, and slide just as easy. The 101s were feeling good at my usual spots (mix of crust and smooth) but when riding round the city they’d ice so bad on quick turns. I can’t judge em off the first session but like you, I hope these break in well because they seem the opposite of what I was looking for.[close]
might just try OG classics or SPF mike Anderson’s[close]
Okay, I thought I was crazy. I feel the same way. I have a pretty recent set of 52mm/99a F4 Conical Fulls and they feel unreasonably hard to me. Really rough, jarring ride in the streets. I want to like them and I keep waiting for them to break in, but they're just not any fun to ride. I wish OJ would bring back the 92a Ditch Witch wheels. Anybody else making a 92a modern shape wheel these days?[close][close]
Think I’ll check those out, thank you![close]
Mini logo 90a definetly feel softer than 90a. I have keyframes and they feel the same.
What about ML 95a?[close][close]
SPoT just got a healthy restock of formula 4s as well. Production must be coming back.ha, Solstice asking how. Someone replied saying Mexico is back online? As in the factory back to producing?Expand Quote
VU just got a massive shipment in. No connection to the shop but have dealt with them before and they are great people.[close]
I got these a couple weeks ago. Haven't set them up yet.
I opened the package and thought it was interesting they listed OG Classics in the chart. Wonder if there are plans to put out F4 in that shape
(http://i.imgur.com/l1xtA5x.jpg)
Anyone know offhand where I can find a set of 53mm radials or radial slims?Here's two sites with F4 99a Radial Embers in 53mm:
Anyone know offhand where I can find a set of 53mm radials or radial slims?
(https://i.ibb.co/s1t441Y/FADB76-F7-DD99-45-A9-8-DA5-0024-E22-EBB1-A.jpg)
Well there you have it
97d OG classic F4s
ive said this before and ill repeat it again; ill try those classic shaped 97a's only to realize the 99a classics work the best..99 F4s really are the best wheels
hey, any euro pals that can help out?52mm 99 classics F4: https://www.darkslide.cz/klasicka/kolecka-spitfire-classic-green-black-99du-52-mm/
i am looking for preferably 51/ 52mm F4 Classics in 99du but no luck on whatever online shops.....
Appreciate any info
(https://i.ibb.co/s1t441Y/FADB76-F7-DD99-45-A9-8-DA5-0024-E22-EBB1-A.jpg)
Well there you have it
97d OG classic F4s
99 F4s really are the best wheelsExpand Quoteive said this before and ill repeat it again; ill try those classic shaped 97a's only to realize the 99a classics work the best..[close]
If they can make a 97a that is really forgiving on shitty ground and has good grip but still slides with the ease of a 99a or 101a F4 when you want them to then I’ll start believing world peace is actually obtainable again.
If they can make a 97a that is really forgiving on shitty ground and has good grip but still slides with the ease of a 99a or 101a F4 when you want them to then I’ll start believing world peace is actually obtainable again.
hey, any euro pals that can help out?
i am looking for preferably 51/ 52mm F4 Classics in 99du but no luck on whatever online shops.....
Appreciate any info
Anyone know offhand where I can find a set of 53mm radials or radial slims?If you're open to used ones, I might be down to sell you my set.
52mm 99 classics F4: https://www.darkslide.cz/klasicka/kolecka-spitfire-classic-green-black-99du-52-mm/Expand Quotehey, any euro pals that can help out?
i am looking for preferably 51/ 52mm F4 Classics in 99du but no luck on whatever online shops.....
Appreciate any info[close]
Not sure if they ship, probably yes. Hope this helps.
The package descriptions are odd. How do tablets have a “thin” riding surface, while classics have a “medium” riding surface.
Stoked to try the 97a OGs.
Expand QuoteThe package descriptions are odd. How do tablets have a “thin” riding surface, while classics have a “medium” riding surface.
Stoked to try the 97a OGs.[close]
tablets have a 20mm riding surface on 52mm size and classics have 15.5mm riding surface with the same size, so yeah they tweaking on the descriptions
The riding surface difference between a tablet and a conical full is .5 on the 53mmsExpand QuoteThe package descriptions are odd. How do tablets have a “thin” riding surface, while classics have a “medium” riding surface.
Stoked to try the 97a OGs.[close]
tablets have a 20mm riding surface on 52mm size and classics have 15.5mm riding surface with the same size, so yeah they tweaking on the descriptions
The riding surface difference between a tablet and a conical full is .5 on the 53mmsExpand QuoteExpand QuoteThe package descriptions are odd. How do tablets have a “thin” riding surface, while classics have a “medium” riding surface.
Stoked to try the 97a OGs.[close]
tablets have a 20mm riding surface on 52mm size and classics have 15.5mm riding surface with the same size, so yeah they tweaking on the descriptions[close]
Any info on when the 97s will hit the shops?by the way deluxe is operating right now, you'll probably be able to order it from cowtown or tactics 4-6 weeks before your local gets it.
by the way deluxe is operating right now, you'll probably be able to order it from cowtown or tactics 4-6 weeks before your local gets it.Expand QuoteAny info on when the 97s will hit the shops?[close]
OK... at the local park my 51mm 99a F4s do not screech when sliding, and feel very slippery and unstable when tight carving. My bones 56mm 84b SPF do screech when sliding, and feel extremely locked and have literally never slipped as far as I can remember.
Is there an F4 that will screech when I slide and not slip when im carving fast and tight? Is it just a matter of the riding surface size? I clearly just don't understand wheel durometer/formulas.
Expand QuoteOK... at the local park my 51mm 99a F4s do not screech when sliding, and feel very slippery and unstable when tight carving. My bones 56mm 84b SPF do screech when sliding, and feel extremely locked and have literally never slipped as far as I can remember.
Is there an F4 that will screech when I slide and not slip when im carving fast and tight? Is it just a matter of the riding surface size? I clearly just don't understand wheel durometer/formulas.[close]
Screeches depend on the surface, and your park is probably better suited for the SPFs (probably a smooth concrete, newish park?) Either adjust your lines so you don’t slip out on F4s or try new urethane. If you like carving fast and tight while still keeping stability and not sliding out, try rain skates wheels in the yellow 98a or white 100a. They’re a smaller company but make sick wheels for bowl riders. I was also having this issue a couple years back.
Im getting 60mm f4 classics tomorrow, anybody here liked them? should i get 58s?
Any chance those 60mms are classics and not F4s? The classic and F4 60mm are different shapes. I bought F4s 60s thinking they would be the wide guys but they were just big classics.Expand QuoteIm getting 60mm f4 classics tomorrow, anybody here liked them? should i get 58s?[close]
The 60s are really wide. I have set that are now about 56 and look very fat and coned. I much prefer the 58s. They just hold a better shape as they get smaller. The 60 F4 classics are still a great wheel and if you want width- go for it.
Expand QuoteIm getting 60mm f4 classics tomorrow, anybody here liked them? should i get 58s?[close]
The 60s are really wide. I have set that are now about 56 and look very fat and coned. I much prefer the 58s. They just hold a better shape as they get smaller. The 60 F4 classics are still a great wheel and if you want width- go for it.
Oh dude it’s definitely the paint. I also slip out like crazy on spraypainted surfaces with F4s, with the SPFs slightly better but still slippy. Definitely look into those rainskates, when I was skating this one bowl a couple years back it had layers on layers of spray paint which made carving fast feel like skating on ice. Picked up some rainskates stingers and they stuck to the wall, no slip outs. I think they’re produced by creative urethane, but they’re a trip because they carve like a soft wheel despite being 100A, but they keep speed like a hard wheel and rolls with the same feeling like a hard wheel does
I'm looking for my first set of F4's. What's a good shape for a balance of hills and slappies? I though about classics because of slappies and powerslides, but probably not the best shape for control with speed down hills.
I'm looking for my first set of F4's. What's a good shape for a balance of hills and slappies? I though about classics because of slappies and powerslides, but probably not the best shape for control with speed down hills.
+1 for conical fullsExpand QuoteI'm looking for my first set of F4's. What's a good shape for a balance of hills and slappies? I though about classics because of slappies and powerslides, but probably not the best shape for control with speed down hills.[close]
Conical fulls or lock-ins.
I'd say tablets, they have almost the same riding surface as the conical full but have a slimmer profile. I'm riding them right now and they are dopeeeee. I bomb a lot of hills and are fucking choice for this, way better than the Classics (also f4) I had before.I just heard that the straight profile makes it harder to slappy vs wheels with a rounded profile. Those were my first choice actually until I found out about the rounded profile for slappies thing.
Looking like 54mm 99a conical fulls for slappies and hill bombing. Do they still power slide pretty easily being that big?
Don’t overthink shit and you’ll be fine.Well said.
Was on 99a F4s for the past six months or so; just put on a set of STF v3s and man am I having F4 withdrawals. STFs are good wheels too and I usually switch between F4s and STFs but there was just something about that last set of F4s that just felt way too good; the STFs just don’t feel right now by comparison.
I remember at one point people posting about tablets/wheels with a hard edge making it harder to slappy and it kind of put me from trying them...which is a shame because I feel like they actually made slappies easier with the way they lock in.Nice to know. Tablets are the only F4 shape I've yet to try.
Expand QuoteWas on 99a F4s for the past six months or so; just put on a set of STF v3s and man am I having F4 withdrawals. STFs are good wheels too and I usually switch between F4s and STFs but there was just something about that last set of F4s that just felt way too good; the STFs just don’t feel right now by comparison.[close]
STF feels like plastic trash after riding some F4 imo
Looking like 54mm 99a conical fulls for slappies and hill bombing. Do they still power slide pretty easily being that big?
just came back from my first ever session on formula four. finally made the switch from my last mike anderson shape ridden down to 45 mm to 56 conical fulls in 99a. had so much fun, so fast and felt like I was gliding through the streets. I think I found my new go to wheel. Can't imagine skating something like radial slims though, even with these soft big wheels getting into slides is super easy. hard slims must feel like skating on ice.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteAnybody had this happen? Put bearings in this set of radial slims and when I went today to set them up noticed one of the wheels had split entirely to the core....sent in a note to DLX so let's see. (https://i.ibb.co/cNZDM5d/IMG-20200517-112447.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/PNbTY80/IMG-20200517-112436.jpg)[close]
Keep us updated. Hope they replaced. I've seen this happen with other wheels. Never with Spitfires though. This happened to a friend YEARS ago. Bam Element wheels, in like 2002/2003. Took him to the shop and were replaced without a hassle. I want to say he got the same ones again because it happened twice back to back. He ended up getting another brand the third time. Recently went back to Spitfires after having Ricta's for years and have had no issues with them.[close]
I haven't seen any comments regarding these wheels being FAKE, but Spitfire DO NOT make Conical shapes with Radial Slim graphics, so I am guessing the person who bought these wheels was given the same info from DLX regarding the lack of authenticity of these so called Spitfire wheels. Sad to say, but there are a lot more people selling fakes online, ebay or other places which you can often spot quite easily if you know, but if you are not aware, they can seem like the real thing very easily. There are always small mistakes, eg shape to graphic, misprints on packaging, seemingly readily available when everywhere else is out...
Please buy from a reputable skate shop, as they should always have your back on products, quality and returns.
Happy to be told otherwise, but the set pictured look far too wide to be Radial Slims. I still have a set or two and they are much slimmer than the ones pictured, which look more like a conical shape, which is very common on Aliexpress with slight differences in wheel shape, graphic, etc.
There are a few lots of these making the rounds at the moment, along with fake Bones bearings, Indy trucks, etc.
If I am wrong, then no worries and happy to admit it too.
(https://i.ibb.co/cNZDM5d/IMG-20200517-112447.jpg)
Happy to be told otherwise, but the set pictured look far too wide to be Radial Slims. I still have a set or two and they are much slimmer than the ones pictured, which look more like a conical shape, which is very common on Aliexpress with slight differences in wheel shape, graphic, etc.
There are a few lots of these making the rounds at the moment, along with fake Bones bearings, Indy trucks, etc.
If I am wrong, then no worries and happy to admit it too.
Expand QuoteHappy to be told otherwise, but the set pictured look far too wide to be Radial Slims. I still have a set or two and they are much slimmer than the ones pictured, which look more like a conical shape, which is very common on Aliexpress with slight differences in wheel shape, graphic, etc.
There are a few lots of these making the rounds at the moment, along with fake Bones bearings, Indy trucks, etc.
If I am wrong, then no worries and happy to admit it too.[close]
They just look wider because of the close up lens distortion. I've had the exact same Radial slims multiple times, one set also had a wheel crack in half exactly like that after less than 10 minutes. Emailed DLX and got a replacement set super quick. Probably had a few defects in a particular batch at some point.
I almost exclusively skate radial slims and those are red Radial slims Deff not conicalsExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteAnybody had this happen? Put bearings in this set of radial slims and when I went today to set them up noticed one of the wheels had split entirely to the core....sent in a note to DLX so let's see. (https://i.ibb.co/cNZDM5d/IMG-20200517-112447.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/PNbTY80/IMG-20200517-112436.jpg)[close]
Keep us updated. Hope they replaced. I've seen this happen with other wheels. Never with Spitfires though. This happened to a friend YEARS ago. Bam Element wheels, in like 2002/2003. Took him to the shop and were replaced without a hassle. I want to say he got the same ones again because it happened twice back to back. He ended up getting another brand the third time. Recently went back to Spitfires after having Ricta's for years and have had no issues with them.[close]
I haven't seen any comments regarding these wheels being FAKE, but Spitfire DO NOT make Conical shapes with Radial Slim graphics, so I am guessing the person who bought these wheels was given the same info from DLX regarding the lack of authenticity of these so called Spitfire wheels. Sad to say, but there are a lot more people selling fakes online, ebay or other places which you can often spot quite easily if you know, but if you are not aware, they can seem like the real thing very easily. There are always small mistakes, eg shape to graphic, misprints on packaging, seemingly readily available when everywhere else is out...
Please buy from a reputable skate shop, as they should always have your back on products, quality and returns.[close]
????????
He clearly stated they are radial slims
Or just spit on itExpand QuoteA pair of my conical fulls are a bitch to get bearings in to. Does this vary that much with F4?[close]
Try a little bearing lubricant / oil, WD40 or something similar put on the inside wheel area and the bearings slide right in much more easily than when dry, especially if they are not new wheels with new bearings.
Completely understand. This rule might help you: Animal waste OK. Human Waste means replace. Except trucks. Do whatever you can to clean and keep your trucks.
Expand QuoteCompletely understand. This rule might help you: Animal waste OK. Human Waste means replace. Except trucks. Do whatever you can to clean and keep your trucks.[close]
Even Krepar trucks?
Completely understand. This rule might help you: Animal waste OK. Human Waste means replace. Except trucks. Do whatever you can to clean and keep your trucks.
Expand QuoteCompletely understand. This rule might help you: Animal waste OK. Human Waste means replace. Except trucks. Do whatever you can to clean and keep your trucks.[close]
I know what you mean. Poop is gross, my board would never feel right to me even after the disinfecting process. I rotate 2-3 pairs of shoes at a time, and if any of them steps in shit I just throw them away. Can't deal with trying to pick shit from the crevaces of an outsole.
Dumb question. I looking to get new wheels. With spitfire (and bones) offering so many shapes I’m like what do I need? I skate street and a diy rarely hit the park. I’m on 101 radials now. Trying get some flip tricks back etc do I need 99a f4 classics or 99a tablets or neither?
Dumb question. I looking to get new wheels. With spitfire (and bones) offering so many shapes I’m like what do I need? I skate street and a diy rarely hit the park. I’m on 101 radials now. Trying get some flip tricks back etc do I need 99a f4 classics or 99a tablets or neither?
Edit. Is there a wheel that’s good for flip tricks and feels stable and can bomb the occasional hill.
Expand QuoteDumb question. I looking to get new wheels. With spitfire (and bones) offering so many shapes I’m like what do I need? I skate street and a diy rarely hit the park. I’m on 101 radials now. Trying get some flip tricks back etc do I need 99a f4 classics or 99a tablets or neither?
Edit. Is there a wheel that’s good for flip tricks and feels stable and can bomb the occasional hill.[close]
The answer is always 99a Conical Full
This x 2Expand QuoteDumb question. I looking to get new wheels. With spitfire (and bones) offering so many shapes I’m like what do I need? I skate street and a diy rarely hit the park. I’m on 101 radials now. Trying get some flip tricks back etc do I need 99a f4 classics or 99a tablets or neither?
Edit. Is there a wheel that’s good for flip tricks and feels stable and can bomb the occasional hill.[close]
The answer is always 99a Conical Full
This x 2Expand QuoteExpand QuoteDumb question. I looking to get new wheels. With spitfire (and bones) offering so many shapes I’m like what do I need? I skate street and a diy rarely hit the park. I’m on 101 radials now. Trying get some flip tricks back etc do I need 99a f4 classics or 99a tablets or neither?
Edit. Is there a wheel that’s good for flip tricks and feels stable and can bomb the occasional hill.[close]
The answer is always 99a Conical Full[close]
Expand QuoteThis x 2Expand QuoteExpand QuoteDumb question. I looking to get new wheels. With spitfire (and bones) offering so many shapes I’m like what do I need? I skate street and a diy rarely hit the park. I’m on 101 radials now. Trying get some flip tricks back etc do I need 99a f4 classics or 99a tablets or neither?
Edit. Is there a wheel that’s good for flip tricks and feels stable and can bomb the occasional hill.[close]
The answer is always 99a Conical Full[close][close]
I’m gonna counter that with a x 3
I feellike Tablets are a nice middle ground between Conical Fulls and Classics, since the riding surface is almost the same as the Conical Fulls yet they have a much slimmer profile. I fucking love my TabletsExpand QuoteExpand QuoteThis x 2Expand QuoteExpand QuoteDumb question. I looking to get new wheels. With spitfire (and bones) offering so many shapes I’m like what do I need? I skate street and a diy rarely hit the park. I’m on 101 radials now. Trying get some flip tricks back etc do I need 99a f4 classics or 99a tablets or neither?
Edit. Is there a wheel that’s good for flip tricks and feels stable and can bomb the occasional hill.[close]
The answer is always 99a Conical Full[close][close]
I’m gonna counter that with a x 3[close]
I dont know man. Been on a classics kick, they just go down easier throwing your board around in the air. That and worn down classics just looks the part.
Conical fulls are more bulldozer, got a fresh set of 55 99a rowans for my next setup though just for a change up.
All this being said "The answer is always 99aConical FullF4s"
Worn down classics = conicalsExpand QuoteExpand QuoteThis x 2Expand QuoteExpand QuoteDumb question. I looking to get new wheels. With spitfire (and bones) offering so many shapes I’m like what do I need? I skate street and a diy rarely hit the park. I’m on 101 radials now. Trying get some flip tricks back etc do I need 99a f4 classics or 99a tablets or neither?
Edit. Is there a wheel that’s good for flip tricks and feels stable and can bomb the occasional hill.[close]
The answer is always 99a Conical Full[close][close]
I’m gonna counter that with a x 3[close]
I dont know man. Been on a classics kick, they just go down easier throwing your board around in the air. That and worn down classics just looks the part.
Conical fulls are more bulldozer, got a fresh set of 55 99a rowans for my next setup though just for a change up.
All this being said "The answer is always 99aConical FullF4s"
looking for an 51mm f4 to pair with venture lows. classics, tablets, or conical? been skating flat, curbs, ledges, and small gaps
I didn't know non-F4 "bigheads" are actually like a classic full F4 shape, these are way better. Can't do classic shape anymore after being on big wide wheels, they look too skinny. I recommend the bigheads, that is all.Thank you for unraveling the mystery of the bighead shape. I've always wondered...
I’m sure I’m late to this but when did spitfire start getting manufactured in Mexico? I thought they was made in SF?
Thank you for unraveling the mystery of the bighead shape. I've always wondered...Expand QuoteI didn't know non-F4 "bigheads" are actually like a classic full F4 shape, these are way better. Can't do classic shape anymore after being on big wide wheels, they look too skinny. I recommend the bigheads, that is all.[close]
Expand QuoteI’m sure I’m late to this but when did spitfire start getting manufactured in Mexico? I thought they was made in SF?[close]
F4 still are as far as I know, did you get a new set with made in Mexico on them?
You're late on this they've been made in Mexico for years nowMy bad. Thats a bummer. It’s been a few years since I got new wheels. So it makes since. Either way bummer
My bad. Thats a bummer. It’s been a few years since I got new wheels. So it makes since. Either way bummerExpand QuoteYou're late on this they've been made in Mexico for years now[close]
Expand QuoteMy bad. Thats a bummer. It’s been a few years since I got new wheels. So it makes since. Either way bummerExpand QuoteYou're late on this they've been made in Mexico for years now[close][close]
Why a bummer? It’s like decks being outsourced to Mexico... keeps the cost down, quality up, and promotes trade between boarders.
I like some bones, but just cause they’re rich enough to keep their production in the states and carry the nice guy shtick doesn’t mean they’re any better or your money is going to anything more sustainable.
What's the smallest f4 size.
Trying to see if should get board cakes fat bundts or not
Expand QuoteWhat's the smallest f4 size.
Trying to see if should get board cakes fat bundts or not[close]
They made 49mm F4 classics but I haven't seen any in ages. The 51mm Tablets, while they are indeed 1mm taller than the 50mm classics, are very slim and wear down evenly and still skate wonderfully when tiny. I ran my last set down to 46mm and was still hesitant to retire them.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteWhat's the smallest f4 size.
Trying to see if should get board cakes fat bundts or not[close]
They made 49mm F4 classics but I haven't seen any in ages. The 51mm Tablets, while they are indeed 1mm taller than the 50mm classics, are very slim and wear down evenly and still skate wonderfully when tiny. I ran my last set down to 46mm and was still hesitant to retire them.[close]
I just setup 51mm tabs with the intent on getting them in the mid 40 range
do any of you know if Spitfire makes or plans on making a 95A wheel? im riding 80HD's now. they are so smooth, but too soft for sliding. i was also thinking of running a set of OJ's because i found a set of 95A's.as @chris. said above a 97a spitfire formula is coming. I just grabbed some classic formula OG classics to try in the meantime. Little more forgiving than the 99a per reviews. There was discussion on the OJ Nomads 95a formula in the Wheels thread, below. OJ just shared some clips around the wheel on their YT page.
anybody have any experience to compare the two? let me know what yall think. i havent had a set of OJ's since the early 90's.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteWhat's the smallest f4 size.
Trying to see if should get board cakes fat bundts or not[close]
They made 49mm F4 classics but I haven't seen any in ages. The 51mm Tablets, while they are indeed 1mm taller than the 50mm classics, are very slim and wear down evenly and still skate wonderfully when tiny. I ran my last set down to 46mm and was still hesitant to retire them.[close]
I just setup 51mm tabs with the intent on getting them in the mid 40 range[close]
They're kind of great for that because they maintain shape and it doesn't look weird or anything. I'll post pics of my 46s later.
as @chris. said above a 97a spitfire formula is coming. I just grabbed some classic formula OG classics to try in the meantime. Little more forgiving than the 99a per reviews. There was discussion on the OJ Nomads 95a formula in the Wheels thread, below. OJ just shared some clips around the wheel on their YT page.Expand Quotedo any of you know if Spitfire makes or plans on making a 95A wheel? im riding 80HD's now. they are so smooth, but too soft for sliding. i was also thinking of running a set of OJ's because i found a set of 95A's.
anybody have any experience to compare the two? let me know what yall think. i havent had a set of OJ's since the early 90's.[close]
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=82118.msg3402380#new
as @chris. said above a 97a spitfire formula is coming. I just grabbed some classic formula OG classics to try in the meantime. Little more forgiving than the 99a per reviews. There was discussion on the OJ Nomads 95a formula in the Wheels thread, below. OJ just shared some clips around the wheel on their YT page.Expand Quotedo any of you know if Spitfire makes or plans on making a 95A wheel? im riding 80HD's now. they are so smooth, but too soft for sliding. i was also thinking of running a set of OJ's because i found a set of 95A's.
anybody have any experience to compare the two? let me know what yall think. i havent had a set of OJ's since the early 90's.[close]
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=82118.msg3402380#new
Tablets under 50mm are so good. I gave away my last worn down set and I miss them.
anyone have measurements of the classic full? (not to be confused with OG classic shape)Is there a good breakdown for all of the different F4 wheels like this? I want to order another pair but all the different offerings is a little confusing. (Also sorry if this question has been asking multiple times before!)
edit nvm found it
Classic full 54mm - wheel width 34 riding surface 19
(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/612PiuNzw5L.jpg)
Radial 54mm - wheel width 34 riding surface 20
(https://caliroots.com/images/510310/large/spitfire-formula-four-99d-radial-52mm-2111002252-multi.jpg)
Is there a good breakdown for all of the different F4 wheels like this? I want to order another pair but all the different offerings is a little confusing. (Also sorry if this question has been asking multiple times before!)Expand Quoteanyone have measurements of the classic full? (not to be confused with OG classic shape)
edit nvm found it
Classic full 54mm - wheel width 34 riding surface 19
(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/612PiuNzw5L.jpg)
Radial 54mm - wheel width 34 riding surface 20
(https://caliroots.com/images/510310/large/spitfire-formula-four-99d-radial-52mm-2111002252-multi.jpg)[close]
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Trying to see if should get board cakes fat bundts or not[close]
They made 49mm F4 classics but I haven't seen any in ages. The 51mm Tablets, while they are indeed 1mm taller than the 50mm classics, are very slim and wear down evenly and still skate wonderfully when tiny. I ran my last set down to 46mm and was still hesitant to retire them.[close]
I just setup 51mm tabs with the intent on getting them in the mid 40 range[close]
They're kind of great for that because they maintain shape and it doesn't look weird or anything. I'll post pics of my 46s later.[close]
Yeah please do cheers man
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteWhat's the smallest f4 size.
Trying to see if should get board cakes fat bundts or not[close]
They made 49mm F4 classics but I haven't seen any in ages. The 51mm Tablets, while they are indeed 1mm taller than the 50mm classics, are very slim and wear down evenly and still skate wonderfully when tiny. I ran my last set down to 46mm and was still hesitant to retire them.[close]
I just setup 51mm tabs with the intent on getting them in the mid 40 range[close]
They're kind of great for that because they maintain shape and it doesn't look weird or anything. I'll post pics of my 46s later.[close]
Yeah please do cheers man[close]
(https://i.imgur.com/KDtyPWN.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ZZCuF5I.jpg)
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Here they are, started at 51 and now 46. Still skateable but, but they were looking wild on some of the big boy shapes. I set them up at the beginning of April and was skating them consistently through July. I was home from work and skating every day, so it is a testament to how well they hold up.
I was actually looking on Amazon the other day and almost bought a digital measuring caliper with the intent of only using it to measure my wheels. It was only $10.
got this one a while backExpand QuoteI was actually looking on Amazon the other day and almost bought a digital measuring caliper with the intent of only using it to measure my wheels. It was only $10.[close]
Almost got a digital as well but decided I just wanted that brass one to throw in my bag and not have to worry about a battery or anything. It was similarly priced.
I got some new Formula Four classics this week and the color of them look different than the normal almost dark tan color they usually are. These are closer to an off-white, eggshell color.I saw a couple left in the vans store in the mall and one looked like coffee and the other looked almost white in comparison - both f4s in 99a too. It kinda makes me appreciate getting a really light colored set.
Radial Slims or Conicals in 52mm and 101d? I'm coming from Bones V1, V2 and V3. Something light would be preferred.
If anyone has a set to get rid of hit me up to, thanks!
I saw a couple left in the vans store in the mall and one looked like coffee and the other looked almost white in comparison - both f4s in 99a too. It kinda makes me appreciate getting a really light colored set.Expand QuoteI got some new Formula Four classics this week and the color of them look different than the normal almost dark tan color they usually are. These are closer to an off-white, eggshell color.[close]
Does anyone have a set of radial slims and classics? Want to compare shapes front the side profile to see how much the side rounds out on radial slims which can be hard to see from the stock Google images.
Expand QuoteDoes anyone have a set of radial slims and classics? Want to compare shapes front the side profile to see how much the side rounds out on radial slims which can be hard to see from the stock Google images.[close]
These are some 54mm Radial Slims I started skating roughly a week ago.
(https://i.ibb.co/YhMHnrY/image.jpg) (https://ibb.co/YhMHnrY)
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteDoes anyone have a set of radial slims and classics? Want to compare shapes front the side profile to see how much the side rounds out on radial slims which can be hard to see from the stock Google images.[close]
These are some 54mm Radial Slims I started skating roughly a week ago.
(https://i.ibb.co/YhMHnrY/image.jpg) (https://ibb.co/YhMHnrY)[close]
Thanks for the pic, are the sides rounder, kind of like a bubble effect around the side of the wheel?
I got some new Formula Four classics this week and the color of them look different than the normal almost dark tan color they usually are. These are closer to an off-white, eggshell color.That's interesting. I bought some as well. Conicals, 99a. Raised lettering, pale nimbus white.
Does anyone have a set of radial slims and classics? Want to compare shapes front the side profile to see how much the side rounds out on radial slims which can be hard to see from the stock Google images.I actually have a set of classics on deck and and pair of radial slims but I have skated them for a few months so I don’t know if that’s the best but if you want I’ll take a picture of both on Thursday when I skate
Does anyone have a set of radial slims and classics? Want to compare shapes front the side profile to see how much the side rounds out on radial slims which can be hard to see from the stock Google images.
Does anyone have a set of radial slims and classics? Want to compare shapes front the side profile to see how much the side rounds out on radial slims which can be hard to see from the stock Google images.
(https://i.imgur.com/9zmfRg8.png)
Soon, come, please.
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Soon, come, please.[close]
I was hoping for the OG classic shape in F4 97a. Anyone know if that’s still in the cards?
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteDoes anyone have a set of radial slims and classics? Want to compare shapes front the side profile to see how much the side rounds out on radial slims which can be hard to see from the stock Google images.[close]
These are some 54mm Radial Slims I started skating roughly a week ago.
(https://i.ibb.co/YhMHnrY/image.jpg) (https://ibb.co/YhMHnrY)[close]
Thanks for the pic, are the sides rounder, kind of like a bubble effect around the side of the wheel?[close]
They definitely have a nice round side profile. They’re not straight cut at all, but still not as rounded as classics so you get more riding surface. I like everything about the shape other than the bearing seats not being very deep in the wheels which leaves the axle nuts and bearings more exposed.
(https://i.ibb.co/JRxCpN6/FBAECFC8-6-C1-B-4-D34-A435-20-C9327-C9-DC1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/JRxCpN6)
Expand QuoteDoes anyone have a set of radial slims and classics? Want to compare shapes front the side profile to see how much the side rounds out on radial slims which can be hard to see from the stock Google images.[close]
Without getting down to deciphering CAD pics (not a dis, appreciate the effort), the classics are like like golf balls compared to radial slims...let alone tablets (just a straight cut radial slim)...cannot see why the shape is useful or preferred really, other than being classically marketable as they have superior shapes/choices for different types of skating (arguably just more marketing.."Lock-Ins" "Radials" "Classic-Full/Slim"); they are called classics for a reason.
Both 52mm.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/xDW4C30rOS2Q3oVxm22JUuT9qhVhSs4Uaeh3PsJjHzkBNstPSNyzkOHAb4WZ9MGK0Y8xT6WE6hkKSIMpHizgRbSEsTJ1buxcPsfWOYt86lA_tw8Fgv7-JnRrfxIwXIStd6aADc-SB_Q)
Personally, I'd like to see the classic slim make a come-back in 101.
Expand QuoteDoes anyone have a set of radial slims and classics? Want to compare shapes front the side profile to see how much the side rounds out on radial slims which can be hard to see from the stock Google images.[close]
When I look at this on the desktop computer screen with the bigger pics and specs of the wheels including classic and radial slim, you get a good indication, but it might not look so good on a small phone screen.
https://www.basementskate.com.au/blog/2019/07/30/spitfire-wheel-shapes-explained/
Specifically these two pics:
https://www.basementskate.com.au/blog/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Screen-Shot-2019-07-30-at-10.46.45-am.png
https://www.basementskate.com.au/blog/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Screen-Shot-2019-07-30-at-10.47.37-am.png
This is a trimmed down and blown up side shot, which might also show well enough.
Radial size 54mm x 31 wide x 19.5 riding surface / 52mm x 30 wide x 18.5 riding surface
Classic size 54mm x 33.5 wide x 16.5 riding surface / 52mm x 32 wide x 15.5 riding surface
I actually have a set of classics on deck and and pair of radial slims but I have skated them for a few months so I don’t know if that’s the best but if you want I’ll take a picture of both on Thursday when I skateExpand QuoteDoes anyone have a set of radial slims and classics? Want to compare shapes front the side profile to see how much the side rounds out on radial slims which can be hard to see from the stock Google images.[close]
Without getting down to deciphering CAD pics (not a dis, appreciate the effort), the classics are like like golf balls compared to radial slims...let alone tablets (just a straight cut radial slim)...cannot see why the shape is useful or preferred really, other than being classically marketable as they have superior shapes/choices for different types of skating (arguably just more marketing.."Lock-Ins" "Radials" "Classic-Full/Slim"); they are called classics for a reason.
Both 52mm.
Personally, I'd like to see the classic slim make a come-back in 101.
Expand Quote
Without getting down to deciphering CAD pics (not a dis, appreciate the effort), the classics are like like golf balls compared to radial slims...let alone tablets (just a straight cut radial slim)...cannot see why the shape is useful or preferred really, other than being classically marketable as they have superior shapes/choices for different types of skating (arguably just more marketing.."Lock-Ins" "Radials" "Classic-Full/Slim"); they are called classics for a reason.
Both 52mm.
Personally, I'd like to see the classic slim make a come-back in 101.[close]
Classics = yes totally!
Funny thing is I like the feel of my worn down F4 classics more than any other current shape, so they would be almost a cross between classic full (bighead shape) and radials, but that is just me.
I also get older almost dead wheels from people I know who ride bigger sizes, then use an angle grinder on the sides to get them back to a nice shape. This might sound weird or crazy but it works really well.
You could do that to your classics to slim them down a bit too.
https://www.instagram.com/p/B0CfVwoFjEp/
Been skating 50mm f4 99a classics . Pretty perfect lil wheel
seems they not so common around here wished
I grabbed two sets when I had the chance
FYI, if your local is lacking F4 like mine, Plus Skateshop has most every size/shape in stock.
And you're still supporting a real skateshop if you buy from them.
I just got 5 sets (53 & 55 Lockins, 54 & 56 x 2 Conical Full; all 99d)
https://plusskateshop.com/collections/wheels?page=5&sort_by=title-ascending
Been skating 50mm f4 99a classics . Pretty perfect lil wheel
seems they not so common around here wished
I grabbed two sets when I had the chance
I'm in desperate need of new wheels but the shortage, as we all know, is making that hard. 6 months ago I couldn't track down F4s and ended up buying Bones STF despite riding Spits since I was a child. I fucking hate them and am scavenging for new wheels. I ride mostly transition at the park but do some street skating/ledges too. I want the 58mm conical full but those are nowhere to be seen. I tracked down some 60mm F4 classics, I was wondering if anyone has experience with these specifically for tranny. I'm worried that the roundness would boot me off the coping during 5-0 stand ups.
I'm in desperate need of new wheels but the shortage, as we all know, is making that hard. 6 months ago I couldn't track down F4s and ended up buying Bones STF despite riding Spits since I was a child. I fucking hate them and am scavenging for new wheels. I ride mostly transition at the park but do some street skating/ledges too. I want the 58mm conical full but those are nowhere to be seen. I tracked down some 60mm F4 classics, I was wondering if anyone has experience with these specifically for tranny. I'm worried that the roundness would boot me off the coping during 5-0 stand ups.
I'm in desperate need of new wheels but the shortage, as we all know, is making that hard. 6 months ago I couldn't track down F4s and ended up buying Bones STF despite riding Spits since I was a child. I fucking hate them and am scavenging for new wheels. I ride mostly transition at the park but do some street skating/ledges too. I want the 58mm conical full but those are nowhere to be seen. I tracked down some 60mm F4 classics, I was wondering if anyone has experience with these specifically for tranny. I'm worried that the roundness would boot me off the coping during 5-0 stand ups.You’ll be fine.
I'm definitely going to pick up a set of big heads when they're is stock againExpand QuoteBeen skating 50mm f4 99a classics . Pretty perfect lil wheel
seems they not so common around here wished
I grabbed two sets when I had the chance[close]
The best wheel. I have a set on ice. 50/51mm 99 F4 classics and tablets are my favorite and are all I ever want to skate.
That being said, currently skating some 50mm big heads and I'm truly impressed with how they handle crust. Also have some 49mm boardycakes princess cuts (like a tablet) on ice that I will try at some point.
I def wanna try those new OG Classics in FF4!!
that would’ve been sweet. Like the nonf4 OG classics just started riding a set.Expand QuoteI def wanna try those new OG Classics in FF4!![close]
Same, but for some reason I was thinking they'd drop the 97a in the OG classic...oh well.
DROP 4
https://www.spitfirewheels.com/
97a classic shape
54, 56mm
(https://i.ibb.co/c22S3Q7/image.png) (https://ibb.co/c22S3Q7)
F4 OG Classics
(https://i.ibb.co/h7R0HcV/image.png) (https://ibb.co/h7R0HcV)
Expand QuoteDROP 4
https://www.spitfirewheels.com/
97a classic shape
54, 56mm
(https://i.ibb.co/c22S3Q7/image.png) (https://ibb.co/c22S3Q7)
F4 OG Classics
(https://i.ibb.co/h7R0HcV/image.png) (https://ibb.co/h7R0HcV)[close]
Say the truth with me guys.
Ido notneed new wheels. The wheels I have right now areperfectly finedogshit and holding me back from achieving my full potential.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteDROP 4
https://www.spitfirewheels.com/
97a classic shape
54, 56mm
F4 OG Classics[close]
Say the truth with me guys.
Ido notneed new wheels. The wheels I have right now areperfectly finedogshit and holding me back from achieving my full potential.[close]
Fixed some typos for ya.
So I have come up with my own wheels, given I have too many classics, which are now nicely worn down...
May I present the Classic ASS, just a simple lover of the wider round shape, straight from years of skating to a new era of small wheels near you.
whats the difference between the og classics and say a conical/conical full? seems the same by the description
can take a pic later to compare the shape, but the OG Classics have more of a "cutaway" i thinkExpand Quotewhats the difference between the og classics and say a conical/conical full? seems the same by the description[close]
Can't find the chart but OG classics have a narrower width and a wider contact patch than conical fulls and are wider in both areas than a regular conical. IIRC they also have a more square edge, whereas the CF/C are rounded before they cone in.
Expand QuoteSo I have come up with my own wheels, given I have too many classics, which are now nicely worn down...
May I present the Classic ASS, just a simple lover of the wider round shape, straight from years of skating to a new era of small wheels near you.[close]
This is my preferred shape as well... And the reason I buy the biggest wheels available at the moment so by the time I get them down to 52mm they are the best shape.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteSo I have come up with my own wheels, given I have too many classics, which are now nicely worn down...
May I present the Classic ASS, just a simple lover of the wider round shape, straight from years of skating to a new era of small wheels near you.[close]
This is my preferred shape as well... And the reason I buy the biggest wheels available at the moment so by the time I get them down to 52mm they are the best shape.[close]
Ha ha. Classic. That must be why when my 58mm Classics get to 54mm they look and feel perfect.
SAY LESS
TAKE ALL OF MY MONEY
(https://i.ibb.co/PCDgfQ6/462-C1-F8-B-2-FBD-45-B8-A6-B6-A03764-B4-A405.jpg) (https://ibb.co/PCDgfQ6)
Rocklobster speaking the truthExpand QuoteExpand QuoteDROP 4
https://www.spitfirewheels.com/
97a classic shape
54, 56mm
(https://i.ibb.co/c22S3Q7/image.png) (https://ibb.co/c22S3Q7)
F4 OG Classics
(https://i.ibb.co/h7R0HcV/image.png) (https://ibb.co/h7R0HcV)[close]
Say the truth with me guys.
Ido notneed new wheels. The wheels I have right now areperfectly finedogshit and holding me back from achieving my full potential.[close]
Fixed some typos for ya.
anyone have width and riding surface for the OG Classics?
I got these a couple weeks ago. Haven't set them up yet.
I opened the package and thought it was interesting they listed OG Classics in the chart. Wonder if there are plans to put out F4 in that shape
(http://i.imgur.com/l1xtA5x.jpg)
Just here to appreciate the F4 thread being on page 99.We are almost to 101
I'm on 101 tablets. But with the colder morning and a bit more moisture during AM skate sessions, I find myself slipping out a bit more. Would the 97a (or the 95 OJs) make a noticeable difference? Or should I just suck it up?
Expand Quoteanyone have width and riding surface for the OG Classics?[close]Expand QuoteI got these a couple weeks ago. Haven't set them up yet.
I opened the package and thought it was interesting they listed OG Classics in the chart. Wonder if there are plans to put out F4 in that shape
(http://i.imgur.com/l1xtA5x.jpg)[close]
are og classics releasing in 101a? that sounds like my perfect wheel
Expand QuoteI'm on 101 tablets. But with the colder morning and a bit more moisture during AM skate sessions, I find myself slipping out a bit more. Would the 97a (or the 95 OJs) make a noticeable difference? Or should I just suck it up?[close]
I'll let you know tomorrow. I was on F4 101s all summer. Just set up some OJ 95as. I typically ride f4 99a. Really should have waited for the F4 97as. However, one thing I learned, is its good to try another wheel every once in awhile so I can come back to F4s and confirm just how good they really are.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI'm on 101 tablets. But with the colder morning and a bit more moisture during AM skate sessions, I find myself slipping out a bit more. Would the 97a (or the 95 OJs) make a noticeable difference? Or should I just suck it up?[close]
I'll let you know tomorrow. I was on F4 101s all summer. Just set up some OJ 95as. I typically ride f4 99a. Really should have waited for the F4 97as. However, one thing I learned, is its good to try another wheel every once in awhile so I can come back to F4s and confirm just how good they really are.[close]
So, how were the OJs? I was at my local park and slipped out more times than I'd like. And since I only skate at parks, I might really want something with a bit more grip.
Posted in Big Boy thread but this might be my main set up for the next few months. If the wheels are bunk, I'll load her up on some F4 97a s.
-Dressen Slick. An nostalgic impulse buy last year that I finally set up.
-Indy 159 standards, 88a conical aftermarkets. 1/8" risers, long hardware for period correct authenticity.
-OJ Nomads, 54 95a. Was holding out for the 97a F4s but got antsy. Mix matched bearings.
Tried them yesterday. Not a long session but hit a few curb spots and a very crusty jersey barrier spot. They perform as advertised. Rolled over rugged ground nicely but you can easily get them to slide. On curbs they felt good as they are soft enough to have a controlled bite as you lay into a slappy but not so soft your wheel bounces off the curb if you hit it poorly. I did come nose and tail slides but I doubt they will slide well enough for blunt or lip slides, at least not for my lard arse. I wouldn't use them on my regular set up but for a fun crusty or slippery spot alternative they seem great. I'd even say they are a good cruiser wheel for someone who likes harder smaller wheels. Fun on hills also. I'm still looking to compare to the Spitfire F4 97s.
Here's a shape comparison of a 52mm Tablet (101) and a 53mm OG Classic NonF4 (99)
(http://i.imgur.com/YUST0sW.jpg?1) (https://imgur.com/YUST0sW)
I bought these 101 F4 Classics not too long ago, but sadly the left one has morphed into a sad shell of its former self. The rest of the wheels look like the one on the right.
I really liked the classics, so it's a bummer. The set of 99 Conical Fulls I had before didn't shapeshift like this one. I've since put the conicals back on my current setup since I saved them, and have taken all the classics off.
Expand Quote(http://i.imgur.com/YUST0sW.jpg?1) (https://imgur.com/YUST0sW)
I bought these 101 F4 Classics not too long ago, but sadly the left one has morphed into a sad shell of its former self. The rest of the wheels look like the one on the right.
I really liked the classics, so it's a bummer. The set of 99 Conical Fulls I had before didn't shapeshift like this one. I've since put the conicals back on my current setup since I saved them, and have taken all the classics off.[close]
Damn dude thats whack. You ever rotate your wheels? looks like heavy wear and tear on the morphed ones and the other look fine?
Expand QuoteExpand Quote(http://i.imgur.com/YUST0sW.jpg?1) (https://imgur.com/YUST0sW)
I bought these 101 F4 Classics not too long ago, but sadly the left one has morphed into a sad shell of its former self. The rest of the wheels look like the one on the right.
I really liked the classics, so it's a bummer. The set of 99 Conical Fulls I had before didn't shapeshift like this one. I've since put the conicals back on my current setup since I saved them, and have taken all the classics off.[close]
Damn dude thats whack. You ever rotate your wheels? looks like heavy wear and tear on the morphed ones and the other look fine?[close]
What tricks are you doing or what kind of terrain are you skating that caused such uneven wear on that 1 wheel?
Maybe the wheel on the left is his back foot heel side wheel / the speed check wheel, and it never got rotated?
I bought these 101 F4 Classics not too long ago, but sadly the left one has morphed into a sad shell of its former self. The rest of the wheels look like the one on the right.
I really liked the classics, so it's a bummer. The set of 99 Conical Fulls I had before didn't shapeshift like this one. I've since put the conicals back on my current setup since I saved them, and have taken all the classics off.
regarding tread and thread- thread screws things together, tread is a
pattern usually on tires.
in this case id say its is whats called "chatter" sometimes in machining, a high feedrate(rate of speed) and a light cut would result in that little swirl around the outside
someones posted the georgia skatewheel maker ig before, hes got a good video detailing such
not like that swirl, tread, thread or whatever you desire to name it would have any bearing on your performance, its probably around the ten thousandths of an inch mark.
shit they wear off in a day if youre actually skating them
97s available at SW https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Spitfire_Formula_4_Classics_97a_Wheels/descpage-SFC97WH.html
97s available at SW https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Spitfire_Formula_4_Classics_97a_Wheels/descpage-SFC97WH.html
i dont even have any intention of skating them immediately, but i just grabbed some 97duros in 54mm. i'm a wheel hoarder :-\
Expand Quote97s available at SW https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Spitfire_Formula_4_Classics_97a_Wheels/descpage-SFC97WH.html[close]
Same!
Hell yeah just ordered some 56’s. Hopefully they come by Friday :D
Just got them in, hopefully will get a chance to skate them later todaythat was quick! Excited to see it set up and hear your thoughts
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Alright boys, I just set them up and took a couple of hill runs, and let me tell you... THESE ARE FUCKING FIRE.
On rough asphalt they retain speed and they grip like crazy. They even feel stable going over chunky asphalt on the street. I was able to pump for speed downhill pretty hard without sliding out. Usually with the 99a F4's it feels too icy on rough asphalt and I break into a slide if I pump too hard. The 97s have a much more controlled slide compared to the 99s, and it feels fantastic being able to hold a powerslide on the 97s.
On smooth concrete they still grip pretty nice and gives out a low pitched, classic sounding wheel bark when sliding. Though the tradeoff with this is that you lose maybe like 10% of speed compared to the 99a F4's, but it's nowhere near as drastic as the speed reduction of nonF4 99a spitfire OG classics. It still feels like an F4.
I'm pretty sure these are going to be my new favorite wheel, I'm a little heavy footed and found 99A F4s to be too icy, but these 97s are perfect. This is only skating them for 20 minutes but they feel great out of the box.
Go buy some now.
Definitely agree on the speed, also I’m not sure if it’s just in my head but they feel really carvey when turning. There’s a curb spot I like skating that has awful concrete, really stoked to try them out there.
Alright boys, I just set them up and took a couple of hill runs, and let me tell you... THESE ARE FUCKING FIRE.
On rough asphalt they retain speed and they grip like crazy. They even feel stable going over chunky asphalt on the street. I was able to pump for speed downhill pretty hard without sliding out. Usually with the 99a F4's it feels too icy on rough asphalt and I break into a slide if I pump too hard. The 97s have a much more controlled slide compared to the 99s, and it feels fantastic being able to hold a powerslide on the 97s.
On smooth concrete they still grip pretty nice and gives out a low pitched, classic sounding wheel bark when sliding. Though the tradeoff with this is that you lose maybe like 10% of speed compared to the 99a F4's, but it's nowhere near as drastic as the speed reduction of nonF4 99a spitfire OG classics. It still feels like an F4.
I'm pretty sure these are going to be my new favorite wheel, I'm a little heavy footed and found 99A F4s to be too icy, but these 97s are perfect. This is only skating them for 20 minutes but they feel great out of the box.
Go buy some now.
Thanks for the prompt review! You do any nose, tail, blunt or lip slides on them yet? Just curious how sticky they are when you ollie into slide tricks?
Yes to start, heard there was a conical full in 54 coming too.
so the 97a's are just 54 and 56mm?Appears to be that way
The F4 OG classics are up on skatewarehouse
https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Spitfire_Formula_4_OG_Classics_99a_Wheels/descpage-SFOC9WH.html
Expand QuoteThe F4 OG classics are up on skatewarehouse
https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Spitfire_Formula_4_OG_Classics_99a_Wheels/descpage-SFOC9WH.html[close]
Idon'tneedanymore wheels. Idon'tneedanymore wheels. Idon'tneedanymore wheels.
Just started riding a set of classic formula OG classics so gonna keep rocking with those for a bit.
Interested in 97a reviews and if they drop in more shapes.
how are the 97s compared to the 99s when it comes to nose/tail/lip/bluntslides on ledges?
Expand Quotehow are the 97s compared to the 99s when it comes to nose/tail/lip/bluntslides on ledges?[close]
Just came back from a sesh. The 97s slide on ledges almost like the 99s but take slightly more effort, you have to push through them a little bit harder because of the extra grip. They're kinda like bones SPF when it comes to tail/nose slides, a lil sticky but controllable.
Does anybody have any tips for switching bearings. Its been pretty cold where I live as of late and it's been a bitch to switch out bearings. Should I warm them up before I start or is there a technique to taking them out?
are the OG Classic F4's out in any other mm than 55?looks like that is all that has shipped/seen for sale so far? more sizes listed
thanks for posting that, want 52's BAAAAAADNo problem! Yeah, those will be sick. Good comparison on page 100 of 52mm tablet shape and 53mm og classic shape.
has anyone seen F4 OG classics in any size other than 55?
Do the 97a handle rough stuff a bit better? I don't skate parks, and have been skating these Spitfires I got on a Zig Zagger complete 10 years ago and I love them but they're a bit sticky, and i'm not sure if they make them anymore. They dont really slide at all, but i'm mainly just doing slappies so that's alright.
Does anybody have any tips for switching bearings. Its been pretty cold where I live as of late and it's been a bitch to switch out bearings. Should I warm them up before I start or is there a technique to taking them out?
i’m pretty sure i heard somewhere that you could use your truck axle as a bearing press.... like put the wheel on and do the first bearing as usual, then the second bearing get it in as far as possible. put washer on the outside bearing then the nut, then tighten it down all the way so the bearing(s) go right into the wheel straight. then back it off to where you usually ride it. idk if it damages bearings or not but it seems to work pretty good sooooo....
Expand Quotei’m pretty sure i heard somewhere that you could use your truck axle as a bearing press.... like put the wheel on and do the first bearing as usual, then the second bearing get it in as far as possible. put washer on the outside bearing then the nut, then tighten it down all the way so the bearing(s) go right into the wheel straight. then back it off to where you usually ride it. idk if it damages bearings or not but it seems to work pretty good sooooo....[close]
This is how I have been doing it since the 90s and I don't think I have ever damaged a bearing. I am also using the axle to remove bearings when they are stuck, just push it halfway into the wheel so the thread grabs onto the inside of the bearing and wiggle/pull the wheel at an angle.
You guys ever try one of those skate tools with the bearing press on there? Pretty dope. It makes it too big to carry but I just kinda keep it as my at home tool and it works out nicely.
yeah man good to hear i haven’t been doing it wrong all along... kinda thought the getting the first bearing in reasonably straight was a given lmao. in terms of spitfire i’ve got some spitfire radial 55mm 99a possibly coming my way that i’m theoretically saving for christmas time, i got a pair of 56mm conical full 101a down to 49 or so mm across all wheels, at which point they were too small for my crusty streets so i threw on some lock-ins i had from a couple of summers ago to get me by.. so far so good. i haven’t skated transition with them yet but i think they should lock in like a conical full? maybe not, i’m not sureExpand QuoteExpand Quotei’m pretty sure i heard somewhere that you could use your truck axle as a bearing press.... like put the wheel on and do the first bearing as usual, then the second bearing get it in as far as possible. put washer on the outside bearing then the nut, then tighten it down all the way so the bearing(s) go right into the wheel straight. then back it off to where you usually ride it. idk if it damages bearings or not but it seems to work pretty good sooooo....[close]
This is how I have been doing it since the 90s and I don't think I have ever damaged a bearing. I am also using the axle to remove bearings when they are stuck, just push it halfway into the wheel so the thread grabs onto the inside of the bearing and wiggle/pull the wheel at an angle.[close]
Yes indeed!
The simple skateboard is often the best work bench for doing or fixing lots of things.
The only difference is I put two bearings onto the axle, face down, press the wheel down on the first and spin to make sure it is centered, turn the wheel over and push it down on the second, spin and if good, then put the nut straight on.
Super easy.
Note I put both axle washers on the inside, most of the time even a third, just to get the wheels out a little bit more and the nut is flush with the end of the axle.
lock-ins i had from a couple of summers ago to get me by.. so far so good. i haven’t skated transition with them yet but i think they should lock in like a conical full? maybe not, i’m not sure
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lock-ins i had from a couple of summers ago to get me by.. so far so good. i haven’t skated transition with them yet but i think they should lock in like a conical full? maybe not, i’m not sure[close]
spitfire radial 55mm 99a = excellent choice!
Radials, lock ins and conical full all have a more squared edge, so will feel much the same on transition (for the tiny part of the wheel that actually touches coping).
Classic variations are the only one with a really rounded edge and I find them easier to get on and off coping, but other people I know say they slip out on classics, so if you are used to the squared edge, the ones you said will most likely work best.
Is the 97a new? I recall 99a and 101a, of course, but suddenly I am seeing 97a around. Did Spitfire realize that America's infrastructure is crumbling and skaters need a softer wheel?Yes the 97a are new for this new drop. only in classic shape.
thanks for posting that, want 52's BAAAAAAD
OG Classics 55mm is going to be my next wheels. 8)
Expand Quotethanks for posting that, want 52's BAAAAAAD[close]
Tactics has them "coming soon"
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I lied, got 55mm Skate Like a Girl Radials from local.
Anymore reports on the 97s?The perfect wheel doesn’t ex...
The perfect wheel doesn’t ex...Expand QuoteAnymore reports on the 97s?[close]
So if I like the feel of Bones SPF 84B are the F4 97A for me?I would guess you want 101s. 84B is harder than the A-scale will accurately measure.
Expand QuoteExpand Quotethanks for posting that, want 52's BAAAAAAD[close]
Tactics has them "coming soon"[close]
They are just the normal OG Classics, not the Formula Four classics though.
I would guess you want 101s. 84B is harder than the A-scale will accurately measure.Expand QuoteSo if I like the feel of Bones SPF 84B are the F4 97A for me?[close]
Expand QuoteI would guess you want 101s. 84B is harder than the A-scale will accurately measure.Expand QuoteSo if I like the feel of Bones SPF 84B are the F4 97A for me?[close][close]
Thanks! It’s weird, I have skated 101A before and the SPF 84B definitely have more grip. I thought these formulas are just marketing wash but maybe there is something to it.
More surface contact, more grip.More surface contact doesn't mean more grip.
The force due to friction is generally independent of the contact area between the two surfaces.Expand QuoteMore surface contact, more grip.[close]
Weight/Mass is what causes grip/friction.
https://www.dummies.com/education/science/physics/how-surface-area-affects-the-force-of-friction/ (https://www.dummies.com/education/science/physics/how-surface-area-affects-the-force-of-friction/)
I'm riding some 53mm "Mike Anderson Edition" non-f4 Spitfires and they seem fairly wide, like maybe a conical or conical full. My next set of wheels in waiting are F4 53mm classics, which are much more narrow. Does anyone think the narrow classic shape sucks on rough ground or is it not a huge deal?
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quotethanks for posting that, want 52's BAAAAAAD[close]
Tactics has them "coming soon"[close]
They are just the normal OG Classics, not the Formula Four classics though.[close]
You're right! My bad. Cowtown has 55mm and 60mm F4 OG Classics and 54mm F4 97 Classics for those who're looking
Expand QuoteI'm riding some 53mm "Mike Anderson Edition" non-f4 Spitfires and they seem fairly wide, like maybe a conical or conical full. My next set of wheels in waiting are F4 53mm classics, which are much more narrow. Does anyone think the narrow classic shape sucks on rough ground or is it not a huge deal?[close]
The original formula SFW shape is even wider than the Formula Four conical full, so you are going from original super wide to F4 very thin, which is going to feel different, but maybe not bad, depending on what you ride and how you skate.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI'm riding some 53mm "Mike Anderson Edition" non-f4 Spitfires and they seem fairly wide, like maybe a conical or conical full. My next set of wheels in waiting are F4 53mm classics, which are much more narrow. Does anyone think the narrow classic shape sucks on rough ground or is it not a huge deal?[close]
The original formula SFW shape is even wider than the Formula Four conical full, so you are going from original super wide to F4 very thin, which is going to feel different, but maybe not bad, depending on what you ride and how you skate.[close]
Love my SFWs. Just got conical Fulls and I think I like the sfw better. I think the f4 og classic will be the best of both worlds.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI'm riding some 53mm "Mike Anderson Edition" non-f4 Spitfires and they seem fairly wide, like maybe a conical or conical full. My next set of wheels in waiting are F4 53mm classics, which are much more narrow. Does anyone think the narrow classic shape sucks on rough ground or is it not a huge deal?[close]
The original formula SFW shape is even wider than the Formula Four conical full, so you are going from original super wide to F4 very thin, which is going to feel different, but maybe not bad, depending on what you ride and how you skate.[close]
Love my SFWs. Just got conical Fulls and I think I like the sfw better. I think the f4 og classic will be the best of both worlds.[close]
It is interesting the OG Classics although squared in shape are quite thinner overall, which is not a bad thing but a bit funny when lined up beside the others. I know it is no comparison, but OG is about as wide as the Lock Ins (left), so when you look at the SFW (middle) compared to Conical Full (right) they are the thinnest wheels in that group.
I think the pic is too small and I forgot those lock ins were bigger in diameter so wider as well, but dimensions for 54mm:
OG 32.5
CF 34
SFW 34.5
https://www.instagram.com/p/CD4zB1BlGqM/
what are the pros and cons of the og classic shape?If you want a wide contact patch on a wheel below 54mm, the OG classic is spitfires widest offering (after 54, conical full is wider). (They're also good options if you want something like the conical full in the OG formula).
Why is there a can of WD-40?! Keep that away from your bearings.
Expand QuoteWhy is there a can of WD-40?! Keep that away from your bearings.[close]
As much as Bones bearings info sheets specifically say "Do not use WD40" it is an integral part of bearing cleaning and maintenance.
It is how I have kept my own Bones swiss and every other brand of bearings in between running very nicely for a long long time, including completely seized up bearings that people have been ready to throw out, but the main thing to remember is it is not the only thing to use, eg use WD40 to get the mess out of the bearings, then when clean and dry use bearing lube / machine oil to keep them rolling.
It also helps with oh so many other things in the shop too. You might be surprised.
But it does erode and wear away the plastic crowns that most bearing manufacturers use, that’s why they recommend a citrus cleaner instead.
Not immediately but it does do damage. That’s why no bearing brands suggest using it.
But it does erode and wear away the plastic crowns that most bearing manufacturers use, that’s why they recommend a citrus cleaner instead.according to bones' website(https://bonesbearings.com/support/cleaner/) citrus cleaners can leave residue so you need to be careful, what I've always heard is acetone or >90% alcohol.
Not immediately but it does do damage. That’s why no bearing brands suggest using it.
according to bones' website(https://bonesbearings.com/support/cleaner/) citrus cleaners can leave residue so you need to be careful, what I've always heard is acetone or >90% alcohol.Expand QuoteBut it does erode and wear away the plastic crowns that most bearing manufacturers use, that’s why they recommend a citrus cleaner instead.
Not immediately but it does do damage. That’s why no bearing brands suggest using it.[close]
any brand reccomendations?
Does anybody know of anywhere, or anyone, who has F4 99a Conical Fulls in 58mm? If not, do any of you shop/industry dudes have any insight as to when they're supposed to be stocked again? For what it's worth, I would also go 60mm if anyone's got those, in the previously stated specs. Thanks in advance.
58mm available as of 8:27am EST on 11/28, I'll DM it to you too just in case you have notifications onExpand QuoteDoes anybody know of anywhere, or anyone, who has F4 99a Conical Fulls in 58mm? If not, do any of you shop/industry dudes have any insight as to when they're supposed to be stocked again? For what it's worth, I would also go 60mm if anyone's got those, in the previously stated specs. Thanks in advance.[close]
A lot of people have been asking about them, but I think the best way is to email DLX directly and see, or from their website, that top right HIT US UP box is where it is at.
https://www.dlxsf.com/
There have been conical full 56mm in small quantities which are the closest / next best thing, but I know it is not quite what you are after.
I would be curious to hear the answer too.
Anyone know of anywhere in Europe that has 97as?
Hey man, thanks very much for making that effort for me –– I did buy them, and now it shows that they're sold out; let's hope that the shop as a whole and/or their online inventory was legitimate. Thanks again...it's little things like this that can actually make the idea of a "skate community" a tangible thing.58mm available as of 8:27am EST on 11/28, I'll DM it to you too just in case you have notifications onExpand QuoteExpand QuoteDoes anybody know of anywhere, or anyone, who has F4 99a Conical Fulls in 58mm? If not, do any of you shop/industry dudes have any insight as to when they're supposed to be stocked again? For what it's worth, I would also go 60mm if anyone's got those, in the previously stated specs. Thanks in advance.[close]
A lot of people have been asking about them, but I think the best way is to email DLX directly and see, or from their website, that top right HIT US UP box is where it is at.
https://www.dlxsf.com/
There have been conical full 56mm in small quantities which are the closest / next best thing, but I know it is not quite what you are after.
I would be curious to hear the answer too.[close]
https://geometricskateshop.com/collections/wheels/products/spitfire-f4-conical-full-52mm-53mm-56mm-99a?variant=32847210971190
(https://i.imgur.com/mMGXwupl.jpg)
Expand QuoteAnyone know of anywhere in Europe that has 97as?[close]
My local had some, so u might get lucky at your local. If not skatedeluxe has them in 56 and 54 mm:
https://www.skatedeluxe.com/en/spitfire-formula-four-classics-wheels-white-blue-56mm-97a-4-pack_p140382
The prices for f4 in europe are fucked though. 60 bucks for wheels... Unfortunately I don't know if i can ever go back from f4
Hey man, thanks very much for making that effort for me –– I did buy them, and now it shows that they're sold out; let's hope that the shop as a whole and/or their online inventory was legitimate. Thanks again...it's little things like this that can actually make the idea of a "skate community" a tangible thing.Expand Quote58mm available as of 8:27am EST on 11/28, I'll DM it to you too just in case you have notifications onExpand QuoteExpand QuoteDoes anybody know of anywhere, or anyone, who has F4 99a Conical Fulls in 58mm? If not, do any of you shop/industry dudes have any insight as to when they're supposed to be stocked again? For what it's worth, I would also go 60mm if anyone's got those, in the previously stated specs. Thanks in advance.[close]
A lot of people have been asking about them, but I think the best way is to email DLX directly and see, or from their website, that top right HIT US UP box is where it is at.
https://www.dlxsf.com/
There have been conical full 56mm in small quantities which are the closest / next best thing, but I know it is not quite what you are after.
I would be curious to hear the answer too.[close]
https://geometricskateshop.com/collections/wheels/products/spitfire-f4-conical-full-52mm-53mm-56mm-99a?variant=32847210971190
(https://i.imgur.com/mMGXwupl.jpg)[close]
Walked into the shop today 100% convinced I was going to buy some 55mm F4 OG classics and ended up leaving with 54mm F4 97s. I prefer a square-edged wheel but the curiosity was just too much for me to handle.
the OG Classic and Conical Full are so close what is the point of both?
Thinking about switching from conical fulls to something slimmer next set as I ride more park now. My wheels are at their widest point right now and grips way to much on concrete.
Cant find radial slims which seems like a good in between shape, only classics and fulls avalible.
How are the classics for park skating? And how are they riding on decent asphalt?
Expand QuoteThinking about switching from conical fulls to something slimmer next set as I ride more park now. My wheels are at their widest point right now and grips way to much on concrete.
Cant find radial slims which seems like a good in between shape, only classics and fulls avalible.
How are the classics for park skating? And how are they riding on decent asphalt?[close]
Classics have a very minimal contact patch when new, then widen out as they get worn down.
To me they still ride just as well on anything, but depending on how fast you are going, or how rough the surface is, you might agree or disagree.
Also the 99 vs 101 debate is also valid - depending on what you prefer in hardness too.
Any new wheel is usually going to feel better than any old worn down wheel though.
If they are still a reasonable size, but just too wide for your liking, I have used an angle grinder to take the sides down to make a thinner wheel in the past, which worked well, but if you are not sure what you are doing, it could be a bad move.
https://www.instagram.com/p/B0CfVwoFjEp/
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteThinking about switching from conical fulls to something slimmer next set as I ride more park now. My wheels are at their widest point right now and grips way to much on concrete.
Cant find radial slims which seems like a good in between shape, only classics and fulls avalible.
How are the classics for park skating? And how are they riding on decent asphalt?[close]
Classics have a very minimal contact patch when new, then widen out as they get worn down.
To me they still ride just as well on anything, but depending on how fast you are going, or how rough the surface is, you might agree or disagree.
Also the 99 vs 101 debate is also valid - depending on what you prefer in hardness too.
Any new wheel is usually going to feel better than any old worn down wheel though.
If they are still a reasonable size, but just too wide for your liking, I have used an angle grinder to take the sides down to make a thinner wheel in the past, which worked well, but if you are not sure what you are doing, it could be a bad move.
https://www.instagram.com/p/B0CfVwoFjEp/[close]
That's impressive, have to try that some day if i ever find myself with a angle grinder.
Thanks for the input, I'll get a pair in the future when my conicals are done.
99a is perfect to me, I dont see a reason to go 101.
I've found 53mm & 55mm classics in stock, anyone prefer one over the other when paired with 144 trucks? Have 3 spacers on the inside so maybe theyre more like 149ish.
Thinking about switching from conical fulls to something slimmer next set as I ride more park now. My wheels are at their widest point right now and grips way to much on concrete.
Cant find radial slims which seems like a good in between shape, only classics and fulls avalible.
How are the classics for park skating? And how are they riding on decent asphalt?
I've found 53mm & 55mm classics in stock, anyone prefer one over the other when paired with 144 trucks? Have 3 spacers on the inside so maybe theyre more like 149ish.
Anyone else had trouble finding Chargers lately? My go-to's on my big boy for cruising are the 80HD 54mm and I've been striking out on them over the past month or two
thanks for posting that, want 52's BAAAAAAD
I just got some of the Cardiel F4 Deep Tabs in 53. New shape I hadn't heard of yet on CCS, impulse buy.
Can anyone reiterate on which F4 I should try coming from Bones SPF 84B? Someone said I should go with 101A but I am worried they’ll be too slippery in the smooth concrete bowl I am skating a lot.
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They are such different formulas of wheels, but smooth concrete is less likely going to be slippery on 99s, but some others say 101 might be a bit more like SPF wheels in general. I just skated some new 60mm SPF wheels on someone's board on the ramp the other day and thought they felt more grippy than I remember, but I am much more of a Formula Four 99 duro guy, the right amount of stick and slide for me anyway.
Expand QuoteI just got some of the Cardiel F4 Deep Tabs in 53. New shape I hadn't heard of yet on CCS, impulse buy.[close]
Deep cuts are the graphic name, tablet is the shape, which has been around for a while but a good wheel all the same!!!
https://www.spitfirewheels.com/fall20/sf-2020-d4-dt-02.jpg
Can anyone reiterate on which F4 I should try coming from Bones SPF 84B? Someone said I should go with 101A but I am worried they’ll be too slippery in the smooth concrete bowl I am skating a lot.
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99a is my go to. 101’s are just too slick for me when I skate transition, but that’s just me.
Personally, I’d say go for 99a conical fulls.
yeah thought that was interesting. kind of look like those price point jointsExpand Quote[close]
The second pic - streamlined (pricepoint looking) tablets too, very interesting!!!
I prefer that graphic over most of the other ones anyway, simple and the inner circle area with the info doesn't really get worn too.
yeah thought that was interesting. kind of look like those price point jointsExpand QuoteExpand Quote[close]
The second pic - streamlined (pricepoint looking) tablets too, very interesting!!!
I prefer that graphic over most of the other ones anyway, simple and the inner circle area with the info doesn't really get worn too.[close]
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteCan anyone reiterate on which F4 I should try coming from Bones SPF 84B? Someone said I should go with 101A but I am worried they’ll be too slippery in the smooth concrete bowl I am skating a lot.[close]
99a is my go to. 101’s are just too slick for me when I skate transition, but that’s just me.
Personally, I’d say go for 99a conical fulls.[close]
I pretty much only skate transition and 99du at a smooth skatepark is a dream! conical full or the og classic now that its f4, would both be we the way to go. I prefer Conical Full
Expand Quoteyeah thought that was interesting. kind of look like those price point jointsExpand QuoteExpand Quote[close]
The second pic - streamlined (pricepoint looking) tablets too, very interesting!!!
I prefer that graphic over most of the other ones anyway, simple and the inner circle area with the info doesn't really get worn too.[close][close]
damn those do look fresh... hahah i gotta fresh set of classics im tempted to try to remove the graphic
Can anyone reiterate on which F4 I should try coming from Bones SPF 84B? Someone said I should go with 101A but I am worried they’ll be too slippery in the smooth concrete bowl I am skating a lot.
Expand QuoteCan anyone reiterate on which F4 I should try coming from Bones SPF 84B? Someone said I should go with 101A but I am worried they’ll be too slippery in the smooth concrete bowl I am skating a lot.[close]
84b SPFs are my favorite park wheel, but I don’t like 99a or 101a F4s at the park because they slip out easy. The 97A F4s are fantastic and they grip at the park similarly to the SPFs and still speedy. I’d try out the 97s if I was you
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteCan anyone reiterate on which F4 I should try coming from Bones SPF 84B? Someone said I should go with 101A but I am worried they’ll be too slippery in the smooth concrete bowl I am skating a lot.[close]
84b SPFs are my favorite park wheel, but I don’t like 99a or 101a F4s at the park because they slip out easy. The 97A F4s are fantastic and they grip at the park similarly to the SPFs and still speedy. I’d try out the 97s if I was you[close]
Time to reconsider, I guess! Maybe I should just stick to SPFs. Can you still comfortably slide tricks on flat with 97A F4s?
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteCan anyone reiterate on which F4 I should try coming from Bones SPF 84B? Someone said I should go with 101A but I am worried they’ll be too slippery in the smooth concrete bowl I am skating a lot.[close]
84b SPFs are my favorite park wheel, but I don’t like 99a or 101a F4s at the park because they slip out easy. The 97A F4s are fantastic and they grip at the park similarly to the SPFs and still speedy. I’d try out the 97s if I was you[close]
Time to reconsider, I guess! Maybe I should just stick to SPFs. Can you still comfortably slide tricks on flat with 97A F4s?
I’d have to put them on my board since my setup is so specific. At that point it’s probably better to just order and try for myself. But this discussion helps to narrow it down. I am tempted to try the 97As since people tell me softer wheels help them deal with the shitty ground we have all over the place here in Berlin.
Expand QuoteI’d have to put them on my board since my setup is so specific. At that point it’s probably better to just order and try for myself. But this discussion helps to narrow it down. I am tempted to try the 97As since people tell me softer wheels help them deal with the shitty ground we have all over the place here in Berlin.[close]
What's so specific about your setup?
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI’d have to put them on my board since my setup is so specific. At that point it’s probably better to just order and try for myself. But this discussion helps to narrow it down. I am tempted to try the 97As since people tell me softer wheels help them deal with the shitty ground we have all over the place here in Berlin.[close]
What's so specific about your setup?[close]
I am 6'5'', 233 lbs, US15 feet. My setup reflects this with a 9.8" deck, 169 Indies, hard bushings bolted down. I freak out on the sub 9" decks with loose trucks everyone rides.
I'm trying to skate a big slippery indoor wooden bowl and my F4 101s and STF 103As felt like skating on glass. I'm looking at F4 99A Conical, F4 97A Classic and maybe the F1 99A Classic or OG Classic. The F1 is clearly inferior to the F4s, but I'm concerned about the slipperiness of the F4s as even the 99s have shown to be slidey, which I want to avoid completely (while retaining a high durometer for speed). Would the 99A Conical offer better grip than the 97A Classic due to the wider contact patch?
I'm trying to skate a big slippery indoor wooden bowl and my F4 101s and STF 103As felt like skating on glass. I'm looking at F4 99A Conical, F4 97A Classic and maybe the F1 99A Classic or OG Classic. The F1 is clearly inferior to the F4s, but I'm concerned about the slipperiness of the F4s as even the 99s have shown to be slidey, which I want to avoid completely (while retaining a high durometer for speed). Would the 99A Conical offer better grip than the 97A Classic due to the wider contact patch?
Expand QuoteI'm trying to skate a big slippery indoor wooden bowl and my F4 101s and STF 103As felt like skating on glass. I'm looking at F4 99A Conical, F4 97A Classic and maybe the F1 99A Classic or OG Classic. The F1 is clearly inferior to the F4s, but I'm concerned about the slipperiness of the F4s as even the 99s have shown to be slidey, which I want to avoid completely (while retaining a high durometer for speed). Would the 99A Conical offer better grip than the 97A Classic due to the wider contact patch?[close]
I have some wider softer wheels that work much better in slippery wooden ramps / bowls, including older Spitfires they don't make any more, but there are other wheels out there, mainly around 95 duro that make slippery ramps feel the same as my 99s on raw concrete, without losing speed or performance. I guess it is down to what you are able to get in the area you are in, but even 97s should not be quite as slippery as what you are currently on.
The other side of it is the surface, as most wood surfaces with decent layers of ply or skatelite or similar clean up really well with a bit of spray and wipe, but if it is more the particle board or something that cannot get wet, then you can't really do much about it. Those things get very dirty and dusty, which is why they feel so slippery, so a bit of cleaning and even hard wheels should feel more normal on the same surface you were slipping out on before the clean.
We did this at a couple of different indoor parks I have worked at / helped with and cleaning the surface made a huge difference to how slippery it was to ride.
I rode my new FF OG Classics 99d 55mm wheels today on wet asphalt and was pleasantly surprised how much grip I had. Obviously not a wooden bowl but figured Id chime in.
my fav is the „normal“ conical. They are sold out everywhere. Should i go with conical fulls 52mm 99a or classics?
one question, does F4 wheels chips easily? running 2 setups both with F4 classics & conical fulls, seems like they're chipped easily.
one question, does F4 wheels chips easily? running 2 setups both with F4 classics & conical fulls, seems like they're chipped easily.
one question, does F4 wheels chips easily? running 2 setups both with F4 classics & conical fulls, seems like they're chipped easily.That's weird, i mostly skate rough asphalt due to where i live and i don't think my wheels have chipped even once
That's weird, i mostly skate rough asphalt due to where i live and i don't think my wheels have chipped even onceExpand Quoteone question, does F4 wheels chips easily? running 2 setups both with F4 classics & conical fulls, seems like they're chipped easily.[close]
Has anyone heard when Radial Slims will be in production again?
has anyone rode their 97a's enough to give a good review or comparison of how they feel comparatively to either 99s or 101s?
Expand Quotehas anyone rode their 97a's enough to give a good review or comparison of how they feel comparatively to either 99s or 101s?[close]
Good to hear. Just ordered some. Went 56s, which is way big for me, but the idea is to be able to ride over some stuff. Will report back. If I actually skate.
There have been quite a few people who have made comment, either back a few pages in here, or the wheels thread, but the general consensus is they still slide well and just grip a bit more and are a touch smoother than the 99s and the people who have skated them like them a lot.
Expand Quotehas anyone rode their 97a's enough to give a good review or comparison of how they feel comparatively to either 99s or 101s?[close]
There have been quite a few people who have made comment, either back a few pages in here, or the wheels thread, but the general consensus is they still slide well and just grip a bit more and are a touch smoother than the 99s and the people who have skated them like them a lot.
Expand Quotehas anyone rode their 97a's enough to give a good review or comparison of how they feel comparatively to either 99s or 101s?[close]
There have been quite a few people who have made comment, either back a few pages in here, or the wheels thread, but the general consensus is they still slide well and just grip a bit more and are a touch smoother than the 99s and the people who have skated them like them a lot.
Last couple of posts totally convinced me the F4 97a are exactly what I have been looking for. I had my mind set on Conical Fulls though and the only 97a available in Germany are Classics. How much difference does it really make?
Thanks, I thought it was just Euro supply lagging behind. I had checked the guide, that’s where I got the idea of trying Conical Fulls from. Starting out with a 7 mm wider riding surface at 56 mm size compared to Classics really appeals to me. I guess I’ll wait and see if they release more soon.
Has anyone heard when Radial Slims will be in production again?
Expand QuoteHas anyone heard when Radial Slims will be in production again?[close]
https://theoryskate.com/collections/wheels/products/spitfire-formula-four-radial-slims-54mm
https://geometricskateshop.com/collections/wheels/products/spitfire-f4-radial-slim-51mm-101-duro
https://southsideskateshop.com/collections/wheels/products/copy-of-spitfire-wheels-f4-tablet-52mm101a
https://southsideskateshop.com/collections/wheels/products/spitfire-wheels-f4-classic-silver-54mm101a
https://energyskateshop.com/collections/wheels/products/spitfire-formula-4-venomous-radial-slim-101a-wheels
https://303boards-com.myshopify.com/collections/wheels/products/spitfire-101-formula-4-venomous-radial-slim-multiple-sizes
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteHas anyone heard when Radial Slims will be in production again?[close]
https://theoryskate.com/collections/wheels/products/spitfire-formula-four-radial-slims-54mm
https://geometricskateshop.com/collections/wheels/products/spitfire-f4-radial-slim-51mm-101-duro
https://southsideskateshop.com/collections/wheels/products/copy-of-spitfire-wheels-f4-tablet-52mm101a
https://southsideskateshop.com/collections/wheels/products/spitfire-wheels-f4-classic-silver-54mm101a
https://energyskateshop.com/collections/wheels/products/spitfire-formula-4-venomous-radial-slim-101a-wheels
https://303boards-com.myshopify.com/collections/wheels/products/spitfire-101-formula-4-venomous-radial-slim-multiple-sizes[close]
Parade is a good place to search multiple shops at once. Tried ordering the Venomous Radial Slim from Southside and got an email telling me they were out of stock. Drop them a DM to check availability.
these 99a og classics are feeling grippier than usual for an f4
55mm. previously had 55mm tablets, which have half a mm wider riding surface. they slid better!Expand Quotethese 99a og classics are feeling grippier than usual for an f4[close]
You could resell them as 97 duro!
Think of all the people who want wider 97 duro wheels and don't want the classics, currently the only shape that they come in right now.
Just a thought anyway, but more curious than anything else about the new 97 duro as I am yet to see or skate any, but still have plenty of older OG formula in all duro and size options.
I am thinking the bigger / wider seem stickier too. What size are they?
55mm. previously had 55mm tablets, which have half a mm wider riding surface. they slid better!Expand QuoteExpand Quotethese 99a og classics are feeling grippier than usual for an f4[close]
You could resell them as 97 duro!
Think of all the people who want wider 97 duro wheels and don't want the classics, currently the only shape that they come in right now.
Just a thought anyway, but more curious than anything else about the new 97 duro as I am yet to see or skate any, but still have plenty of older OG formula in all duro and size options.
I am thinking the bigger / wider seem stickier too. What size are they?[close]
Finally put a bit of time in on the 97s. They are noticeably slower than 99s. Going to be good for crust and curbs but bog a little in the park for sure.
Finally put a bit of time in on the 97s. They are noticeably slower than 99s. Going to be good for crust and curbs but bog a little in the park for sure.they seem to wear down at the same rate as the 99a formula fours? crust n curb what I am specifically looking at them for. But comparatively I’ve really liked the 95a NFG V I’m riding. Attracted to the classic shape especially for an egg
they seem to wear down at the same rate as the 99a formula fours? crust n curb what I am specifically looking at them for. But comparatively I’ve really liked the 95a NFG V I’m riding. Attracted to the classic shape especially for an eggExpand QuoteFinally put a bit of time in on the 97s. They are noticeably slower than 99s. Going to be good for crust and curbs but bog a little in the park for sure.[close]
(https://imgur.com/OpA6vDWl.jpg)
52mm 99du OG classics
pretty psyched to skate this wheel for the next few months.
really like that these are skinnier than a Conical , but with a little more riding surface. should be a pretty stable feeling wheel .
Spent all weekend on the 97s. Like all F4s they really start to shine once you've torn them up a little. Anyway, these are good wheels. You are only sacrificing a little slide and a bit of speed in smooth parks. So if you like crust and you're not a super techie ledgetarian you might like these. I skated some pretty fucked up ground recently and they were worked great with no noticeable wear.
Spent all weekend on the 97s. Like all F4s they really start to shine once you've torn them up a little. Anyway, these are good wheels. You are only sacrificing a little slide and a bit of speed in smooth parks. So if you like crust and you're not a super techie ledgetarian you might like these. I skated some pretty fucked up ground recently and they were worked great with no noticeable wear.are they noticeably wearing down and is the riding surface getting a bit wider? That could be a sweet spot like you said, once they’re torn up a bit and the riding surface gets a bit more stable
anyone got any big spitfires (originally 56-60mm) that are worn down to 53 or lower that they are willing to sell? cant wear them down myself due to truck height
width and riding surface would be much smaller with 53s. i just had a set that i got to 49mm and they werent as wide as i thought they would getExpand Quoteanyone got any big spitfires (originally 56-60mm) that are worn down to 53 or lower that they are willing to sell? cant wear them down myself due to truck height[close]
Why dont you just get some 53s... if you want the width just get conical fulls?
width and riding surface would be much smaller with 53s. i just had a set that i got to 49mm and they werent as wide as i thought they would getExpand QuoteExpand Quoteanyone got any big spitfires (originally 56-60mm) that are worn down to 53 or lower that they are willing to sell? cant wear them down myself due to truck height[close]
Why dont you just get some 53s... if you want the width just get conical fulls?[close]
Has anyone noticed the 97a stain really easy? Ive never had this before with any other f4
It looks like there is a new cheaper Radial Slim F4, kinda like those Lil Smokies Tablets.
(https://cdn.ccs.com/media/catalog/product/cache/4/image/x550/17f82f742ffe127f42dca9de82fb58b1/8/8/888560182356-2.1560940433.jpg)
They were $4 cheaper than CFs and Classics when they were in stock @ CCS.
Expand QuoteHas anyone noticed the 97a stain really easy? Ive never had this before with any other f4[close]
Any wheel will take in whatever colouring there is around, eg those Spitfire Skeleton Key half dyed wheels, but even rolling off into grass does stain the wheels somewhat I had noticed.
I like how you took off the swirl on the classics graphic too, either by skating hard or by choice - I have done that a lot.
I need help. Headin to my Local shop tonight to get new wheels with some birthday money. I have the OG Classic and Conical Full put to the side. I have always gotten conical full 56 or 58, and I am contemplating trying the OG Classic f4s in either a 58 or 60. Anyone got experience with both? what are the notable differences, on board, between the shapesConical Full all the way for me - they roll over coping better and slide better. However, if you primarily skate ledges and or rails, I'd get the og shape instead.
Conical Full all the way for me - they roll over coping better and slide better. However, if you primarily skate ledges and or rails, I'd get the og shape instead.Expand QuoteI need help. Headin to my Local shop tonight to get new wheels with some birthday money. I have the OG Classic and Conical Full put to the side. I have always gotten conical full 56 or 58, and I am contemplating trying the OG Classic f4s in either a 58 or 60. Anyone got experience with both? what are the notable differences, on board, between the shapes[close]
Yeah, it's easy to get hyped on "NEW SHAPE!", until you realize that everything you skate is easier with what you already have. Either way, one can't regret having new f4s no matter what shape they are, we're just splitting hairs here.Thanks man. Mostly transition, and slappies for me, so I may just stay the course with the conical fullExpand QuoteConical Full all the way for me - they roll over coping better and slide better. However, if you primarily skate ledges and or rails, I'd get the og shape instead.Expand QuoteI need help. Headin to my Local shop tonight to get new wheels with some birthday money. I have the OG Classic and Conical Full put to the side. I have always gotten conical full 56 or 58, and I am contemplating trying the OG Classic f4s in either a 58 or 60. Anyone got experience with both? what are the notable differences, on board, between the shapes[close][close]
I need help. Headin to my Local shop tonight to get new wheels with some birthday money. I have the OG Classic and Conical Full put to the side. I have always gotten conical full 56 or 58, and I am contemplating trying the OG Classic f4s in either a 58 or 60. Anyone got experience with both? what are the notable differences, on board, between the shapes
Yeah, it's easy to get hyped on "NEW SHAPE!", until you realize that everything you skate is easier with what you already have. Either way, one can't regret having new f4s no matter what shape they are, we're just splitting hairs here.Expand QuoteThanks man. Mostly transition, and slappies for me, so I may just stay the course with the conical fullExpand QuoteConical Full all the way for me - they roll over coping better and slide better. However, if you primarily skate ledges and or rails, I'd get the og shape instead.Expand QuoteI need help. Headin to my Local shop tonight to get new wheels with some birthday money. I have the OG Classic and Conical Full put to the side. I have always gotten conical full 56 or 58, and I am contemplating trying the OG Classic f4s in either a 58 or 60. Anyone got experience with both? what are the notable differences, on board, between the shapes[close][close][close]
Just put in an order for my first F4s. Pretty excited to try something new after years of riding Bones SPF 84B. Thanks to all of you posting in this thread I felt I could make an informed decision for 99A, 54mm Tablets.
Hoping for a smoother ride on rough ground as I have started to skate more street again. I don’t mind losing some speed in the bowl. Bit worried about adjusting to a new feel when doing reverts but I cannot imagine it will be too difficult.
Expand QuoteYeah, it's easy to get hyped on "NEW SHAPE!", until you realize that everything you skate is easier with what you already have. Either way, one can't regret having new f4s no matter what shape they are, we're just splitting hairs here.Expand QuoteThanks man. Mostly transition, and slappies for me, so I may just stay the course with the conical fullExpand QuoteConical Full all the way for me - they roll over coping better and slide better. However, if you primarily skate ledges and or rails, I'd get the og shape instead.Expand QuoteI need help. Headin to my Local shop tonight to get new wheels with some birthday money. I have the OG Classic and Conical Full put to the side. I have always gotten conical full 56 or 58, and I am contemplating trying the OG Classic f4s in either a 58 or 60. Anyone got experience with both? what are the notable differences, on board, between the shapes[close][close][close][close]
It is funny how similar the wheel shapes have become - wider riding surface, squared off edge.
In the shop I had Radials, Conical, Conical Full, OG Classics and to compare to sets of well worn down bigger normal classics and there is only a mm or two difference in dimensions between all of them.
for me, 99a isn’t smooth on rough ground bc it’s still a hard wheel and the shape didn’t seem to completely change that. 97a I am curious to try but have been liking 95a as a middle ground/do it all. Getting my knees back into it and it’s been a good mix for the winter too.Expand QuoteJust put in an order for my first F4s. Pretty excited to try something new after years of riding Bones SPF 84B. Thanks to all of you posting in this thread I felt I could make an informed decision for 99A, 54mm Tablets.
Hoping for a smoother ride on rough ground as I have started to skate more street again. I don’t mind losing some speed in the bowl. Bit worried about adjusting to a new feel when doing reverts but I cannot imagine it will be too difficult.[close]
I was anti spitfire for a minute (flat spotted F4’s when they first came out) was on bones 84b just before switching to F4s again. So much better in every way. Your gonna be stoked
for me, 99a isn’t smooth on rough ground bc it’s still a hard wheel and the shape didn’t seem to completely change that. 97a I am curious to try but have been liking 95a as a middle ground/do it all. Getting my knees back into it and it’s been a good mix for the winter too.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteJust put in an order for my first F4s. Pretty excited to try something new after years of riding Bones SPF 84B. Thanks to all of you posting in this thread I felt I could make an informed decision for 99A, 54mm Tablets.
Hoping for a smoother ride on rough ground as I have started to skate more street again. I don’t mind losing some speed in the bowl. Bit worried about adjusting to a new feel when doing reverts but I cannot imagine it will be too difficult.[close]
I was anti spitfire for a minute (flat spotted F4’s when they first came out) was on bones 84b just before switching to F4s again. So much better in every way. Your gonna be stoked[close]
NFG 95a. Don’t have enough wear to tell you an accurate comparison on sliding specifically on slidesExpand Quotefor me, 99a isn’t smooth on rough ground bc it’s still a hard wheel and the shape didn’t seem to completely change that. 97a I am curious to try but have been liking 95a as a middle ground/do it all. Getting my knees back into it and it’s been a good mix for the winter too.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteJust put in an order for my first F4s. Pretty excited to try something new after years of riding Bones SPF 84B. Thanks to all of you posting in this thread I felt I could make an informed decision for 99A, 54mm Tablets.
Hoping for a smoother ride on rough ground as I have started to skate more street again. I don’t mind losing some speed in the bowl. Bit worried about adjusting to a new feel when doing reverts but I cannot imagine it will be too difficult.[close]
I was anti spitfire for a minute (flat spotted F4’s when they first came out) was on bones 84b just before switching to F4s again. So much better in every way. Your gonna be stoked[close][close]
Nomads? If so I’m very curious about how well they slide compared to a 99a spitfire. I’m so close to pulling the trigger but I’m afraid I’ll lose some of the length etc on nose slides etc.
Expand Quotefor me, 99a isn’t smooth on rough ground bc it’s still a hard wheel and the shape didn’t seem to completely change that. 97a I am curious to try but have been liking 95a as a middle ground/do it all. Getting my knees back into it and it’s been a good mix for the winter too.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteJust put in an order for my first F4s. Pretty excited to try something new after years of riding Bones SPF 84B. Thanks to all of you posting in this thread I felt I could make an informed decision for 99A, 54mm Tablets.
Hoping for a smoother ride on rough ground as I have started to skate more street again. I don’t mind losing some speed in the bowl. Bit worried about adjusting to a new feel when doing reverts but I cannot imagine it will be too difficult.[close]
I was anti spitfire for a minute (flat spotted F4’s when they first came out) was on bones 84b just before switching to F4s again. So much better in every way. Your gonna be stoked[close][close]
Nomads? If so I’m very curious about how well they slide compared to a 99a spitfire. I’m so close to pulling the trigger but I’m afraid I’ll lose some of the length etc on nose slides etc.
for me, 99a isn’t smooth on rough ground bc it’s still a hard wheel and the shape didn’t seem to completely change that. 97a I am curious to try but have been liking 95a as a middle ground/do it all. Getting my knees back into it and it’s been a good mix for the winter too.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteJust put in an order for my first F4s. Pretty excited to try something new after years of riding Bones SPF 84B. Thanks to all of you posting in this thread I felt I could make an informed decision for 99A, 54mm Tablets.
Hoping for a smoother ride on rough ground as I have started to skate more street again. I don’t mind losing some speed in the bowl. Bit worried about adjusting to a new feel when doing reverts but I cannot imagine it will be too difficult.[close]
I was anti spitfire for a minute (flat spotted F4’s when they first came out) was on bones 84b just before switching to F4s again. So much better in every way. Your gonna be stoked[close]
Thanks everybody. Went with the conical full, no reason to try and fix something that aint broken.
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Thanks everybody. Went with the conical full, no reason to try and fix something that aint broken.[close]
Did you get 56mm size?
So many people have been wanting the 58s but will just ride the 56 anyway.
not happy with the 101a radials slims i bought few months ago, they don't feel round and keep deteriorating, losing parts and i only ride in concrete skateparks, got the tablets 99a after, they 're perfect, maybe i got some fake ones first
Expand Quotenot happy with the 101a radials slims i bought few months ago, they don't feel round and keep deteriorating, losing parts and i only ride in concrete skateparks, got the tablets 99a after, they 're perfect, maybe i got some fake ones first[close]
Where did you get them and do you have any pics?
The radial slim 101s green snake graphic are pretty widely copied.
They're the green snake ones 53mm, got them at the local shop, the shape seems correct, but the gum makes white spots before exploding, like hard plastic would do...maybe a bad covid era batchExpand QuoteExpand Quotenot happy with the 101a radials slims i bought few months ago, they don't feel round and keep deteriorating, losing parts and i only ride in concrete skateparks, got the tablets 99a after, they 're perfect, maybe i got some fake ones first[close]
Where did you get them and do you have any pics?
The radial slim 101s green snake graphic are pretty widely copied.[close]
Took the words right out of my mouth. Fake ones have zero slide and are conical shape despite being listed as Radial Slim.
Been riding F4 almost exclusively after riding Bones and these wheel don't chip especially on the front wheels during crooked grinds.
Little birdie sez Conical Full 97s in 54, 56 & 588) ooo nice
I'm absolutely loving my 97's, they're so good on rougher surfaces and actually slide amazing with a nice bark. Total game changer, they've opened up a bunch of local spots that my 99's couldn't hack.for me, 99a isn’t smooth on rough ground bc it’s still a hard wheel and the shape didn’t seem to completely change that. 97a I am curious to try but have been liking 95a as a middle ground/do it all. Getting my knees back into it and it’s been a good mix for the winter too.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteJust put in an order for my first F4s. Pretty excited to try something new after years of riding Bones SPF 84B. Thanks to all of you posting in this thread I felt I could make an informed decision for 99A, 54mm Tablets.
Hoping for a smoother ride on rough ground as I have started to skate more street again. I don’t mind losing some speed in the bowl. Bit worried about adjusting to a new feel when doing reverts but I cannot imagine it will be too difficult.[close]
I was anti spitfire for a minute (flat spotted F4’s when they first came out) was on bones 84b just before switching to F4s again. So much better in every way. Your gonna be stoked[close]
I'm absolutely loving my 97's, they're so good on rougher surfaces and actually slide amazing with a nice bark. Total game changer, they've opened up a bunch of local spots that my 99's couldn't hack.Expand Quotefor me, 99a isn’t smooth on rough ground bc it’s still a hard wheel and the shape didn’t seem to completely change that. 97a I am curious to try but have been liking 95a as a middle ground/do it all. Getting my knees back into it and it’s been a good mix for the winter too.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteJust put in an order for my first F4s. Pretty excited to try something new after years of riding Bones SPF 84B. Thanks to all of you posting in this thread I felt I could make an informed decision for 99A, 54mm Tablets.
Hoping for a smoother ride on rough ground as I have started to skate more street again. I don’t mind losing some speed in the bowl. Bit worried about adjusting to a new feel when doing reverts but I cannot imagine it will be too difficult.[close]
I was anti spitfire for a minute (flat spotted F4’s when they first came out) was on bones 84b just before switching to F4s again. So much better in every way. Your gonna be stoked[close][close]
Little birdie sez Conical Full 97s in 54, 56 & 58
Just got some 54mm 97a’s yesterday. I’m surprised at how much I like the slide on these.
I expected an inconsistent and untrustworthy slide, like softer wheels sometimes do where half the time they slide a modest amount and the other half the time they grip and pitch you forward. These felt consistent like they would slide the same way each time, with little variation.
The quality of the slide feels comparable to normal F4’s too. The harder ones feel like you are sliding on ice whereas the 97a feel like you are sliding on something thicker, like motor oil, but it’s the same smooth and steady slide, just a shorter slide.
Rolling, they feel like they mute the ground a bit more than 99a’s, but not as much as soft cruiser wheels do. To me, 99’s make the ground feel like crunching Frosted Flakes, 97 are like when you first put milk on Frosted Flakes and softer (like 85a) feel like the milk has settled in.
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I don’t feel a huge difference in keeping speed from my 99a F4’s, but I’m running new bearings and a different brand than I’m used to, so that may factor in. (Usually use Mini logo bearings but I’m trying out Olympia)
Anyway, I love them so far, looking forward to seeing how the slide feels when they break in more.
Expand QuoteJust got some 54mm 97a’s yesterday. I’m surprised at how much I like the slide on these.
I expected an inconsistent and untrustworthy slide, like softer wheels sometimes do where half the time they slide a modest amount and the other half the time they grip and pitch you forward. These felt consistent like they would slide the same way each time, with little variation.
The quality of the slide feels comparable to normal F4’s too. The harder ones feel like you are sliding on ice whereas the 97a feel like you are sliding on something thicker, like motor oil, but it’s the same smooth and steady slide, just a shorter slide.
Rolling, they feel like they mute the ground a bit more than 99a’s, but not as much as soft cruiser wheels do. To me, 99’s make the ground feel like crunching Frosted Flakes, 97 are like when you first put milk on Frosted Flakes and softer (like 85a) feel like the milk has settled in.
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I don’t feel a huge difference in keeping speed from my 99a F4’s, but I’m running new bearings and a different brand than I’m used to, so that may factor in. (Usually use Mini logo bearings but I’m trying out Olympia)
Anyway, I love them so far, looking forward to seeing how the slide feels when they break in more.[close]
Give them a week or two of skating and they will break in and feel even better.
Honestly.... They are the perfect wheel.
Need to try these 97a
And compare how they feel in classic shape to these wide 95a
@Sundaynuggets great description. When you say compared to a soft cruiser wheel are you saying 87a or so or more like a 78a?
yes the NFG 95a but the vee shape so super wide and square . and i also have 87a keyframes. so trying to place within your analogy. i have been attracted to the classic shape lately so want to try regardless, but wondering if theyll be serviceable as a transportation type wheel too. something about those classic shape and how they wear downExpand QuoteNeed to try these 97a
And compare how they feel in classic shape to these wide 95a
@Sundaynuggets great description. When you say compared to a soft cruiser wheel are you saying 87a or so or more like a 78a?[close]
Thanks! With the cereal analogy I was talking about 85a’s I’ve tried (Powell g-slides specifically but equally true of the Oj key frames I’ve tried) because even those still feel a bit crunchy on the ground.
I usually ride softer cruisers (78a Rictas or 80a Mini juice) and the 97a F4’s feel like they have almost nothing in common with those. The 78a feel more in the soft cereal category haha
With the 95a you mentioned, are you riding the NFGMFG wheels?
yes the NFG 95a but the vee shape so super wide and square . and i also have 87a keyframes. so trying to place within your analogy. i have been attracted to the classic shape lately so want to try regardless, but wondering if theyll be serviceable as a transportation type wheel too. something about those classic shape and how they wear downExpand QuoteExpand QuoteNeed to try these 97a
And compare how they feel in classic shape to these wide 95a
@Sundaynuggets great description. When you say compared to a soft cruiser wheel are you saying 87a or so or more like a 78a?[close]
Thanks! With the cereal analogy I was talking about 85a’s I’ve tried (Powell g-slides specifically but equally true of the Oj key frames I’ve tried) because even those still feel a bit crunchy on the ground.
I usually ride softer cruisers (78a Rictas or 80a Mini juice) and the 97a F4’s feel like they have almost nothing in common with those. The 78a feel more in the soft cereal category haha
With the 95a you mentioned, are you riding the NFGMFG wheels?[close]
finally gave f4's a try after hearing about them, spent several sessions on them now.
first thing i'd say is they aren't wildly different than the bones wheels i'd been using. i noticed differences for sure, but it seems high-rebound wheels are pretty similar, they offer a lot of performance/speed.
that being said there was a lot to like. worked well on the sidewalk as well as the park, slides are effortless, no gashes from doing crooked grinds.
so far the only downside: i haven't quite been able to keep the speed in a concrete pool, coming from bones spf conicals to radial slim 101's in the same size (measurements were really close). i'm not sure if it's because of the wheel formula and/or shape is slowing me down, or if i am just afraid to slip out on a less grippy wheel. maybe i would have been better off with the regular conicals, but they seem to be hard to find.
Expand Quotefinally gave f4's a try after hearing about them, spent several sessions on them now.
first thing i'd say is they aren't wildly different than the bones wheels i'd been using. i noticed differences for sure, but it seems high-rebound wheels are pretty similar, they offer a lot of performance/speed.
that being said there was a lot to like. worked well on the sidewalk as well as the park, slides are effortless, no gashes from doing crooked grinds.
so far the only downside: i haven't quite been able to keep the speed in a concrete pool, coming from bones spf conicals to radial slim 101's in the same size (measurements were really close). i'm not sure if it's because of the wheel formula and/or shape is slowing me down, or if i am just afraid to slip out on a less grippy wheel. maybe i would have been better off with the regular conicals, but they seem to be hard to find.[close]
The weird thing is the 101s have seemed to be inconsistent in the feel and the slide, but the 99s have always been so "normal" and all felt the same, from the many many sets I have had.
I know others have said something like this too, but it is just one of those things, some perceptions of performance will vary depending on where you skate, what else is going on, etc.
I had seen supply almost dry up again in Australia, (as well as some other countries) but from following a lot of US shops on Instagram, there have been so many solid drops of product that I think it really depends on where you are, as to what is available. A lot of people do order from other countries, but I know many shops don't put stock online and only have it for walk in / local customers too, not that you need more wheels right now, but it is worth hitting up local shops to ask about them.
Am I the only one who misses the older Spitfire graphic wheel? Each pro had their own graphic / wheel color, more than just their name.
They kinda look like tablets to me
(https://i.imgur.com/tU1aFpV.png)52mm tablets
(https://i.imgur.com/ZoJ47qA.png)
Is anyone able to tell whether these are Spit conicals or conical fulls? Any size estimates? Seem to be on the smaller side to me, perhaps 52?
52mm tabletsExpand Quote(https://i.imgur.com/tU1aFpV.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/ZoJ47qA.png)
Is anyone able to tell whether these are Spit conicals or conical fulls? Any size estimates? Seem to be on the smaller side to me, perhaps 52?[close]
Looks like the 97a concical fulls on the way....the little bird was right. picking up a set of 58s asap
http://www.rngdist.it/CAMPIONARIO%20DELUXE/SPRING%2021%20-%20SKATE/FILES/spring-2021-drop1-hardgoods.pdf (http://www.rngdist.it/CAMPIONARIO%20DELUXE/SPRING%2021%20-%20SKATE/FILES/spring-2021-drop1-hardgoods.pdf)
OG CLASSICS 97A! Fucking sweet.yeah, confused by that because it says “classic” like what was already released but has an image of the og classics.. wouldn’t get your hopes up yet could be a mess up.
yeah, confused by that because it says “classic” like what was already released but has an image of the og classics.. wouldn’t get your hopes up yet could be a mess up.Expand QuoteOG CLASSICS 97A! Fucking sweet.[close]
(https://i.ibb.co/CK1S9rw/167-BDC75-1292-46-FA-893-D-ECD36-BD27-BDB.jpg) (https://ibb.co/CK1S9rw)
Yeah those didn’t look like og classics at all from the first pic. Still don’t
do you guys like the 97du on concrete ?
for me they felt slow outside in the concretepark but they were great indoors in my slippery park.
might go for 99 outside and 97 indoors
Lately I’ve been skating venture lo’s, not many wheels coming out in the 50 mm range. How long does it take most, to get a wheel down a few mm?
Other dumb question: because I’m set in my ways (see venture lo’s, decks no wider than 8”), I like spitfire classics. I feel like narrower wheels flip easier. Would a smaller conical full still flip, easily (emphasis)? Looking at 52 conical fulls, vs 53 classics (and will be using regular height trucks), because that’s what is available.
Spitfire 4 really work quite well. I’m not really fond of the baked potato color. Which is dumb on my part.
The 50mm Tablets I got are super fun for flat ground flailing on smooth ground. I vowed never to purchase anything smaller than 54mm but glad I made an exception. Not so great when you hit the rough stuff though.
Expand QuoteThe 50mm Tablets I got are super fun for flat ground flailing on smooth ground. I vowed never to purchase anything smaller than 54mm but glad I made an exception. Not so great when you hit the rough stuff though.[close]
Gotta say, the one thing i didn't like about the tablets is that it seemed harder to do any type of crook, like the corner dug into the ledge. Where i could just glide thru on classics. Not sure if anyone else felt this.
Expand QuoteThe 50mm Tablets I got are super fun for flat ground flailing on smooth ground. I vowed never to purchase anything smaller than 54mm but glad I made an exception. Not so great when you hit the rough stuff though.[close]
Gotta say, the one thing i didn't like about the tablets is that it seemed harder to do any type of crook, like the corner dug into the ledge. Where i could just glide thru on classics. Not sure if anyone else felt this.
Hell yeah. Came to post this. Been holding 97a classics til spring, shit.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteThe 50mm Tablets I got are super fun for flat ground flailing on smooth ground. I vowed never to purchase anything smaller than 54mm but glad I made an exception. Not so great when you hit the rough stuff though.[close]
Gotta say, the one thing i didn't like about the tablets is that it seemed harder to do any type of crook, like the corner dug into the ledge. Where i could just glide thru on classics. Not sure if anyone else felt this.[close]
The tablets or the V2s are great for ledges, where both wheels are locked, but I miss having a little bit of lip to roll on.
Does anyone here maybe know if the Lock-In's will ever be sold again? Always wanted to try these. Best of two worlds in my opinion. Rolling up curbs for slappys, locking grinds in on ledges. At least in my theory ^^
Does anyone here maybe know if the Lock-In's will ever be sold again? Always wanted to try these. Best of two worlds in my opinion. Rolling up curbs for slappys, locking grinds in on ledges. At least in my theory ^^Dunno, maybe discontinued because they weren't popular. Asymmetrical wheels are not practical. They sucked for crooks too, same problem someone above was having with the tablets
Dunno, maybe discontinued because they weren't popular. Asymmetrical wheels are not practical. They sucked for crooks too, same problem someone above was having with the tabletsExpand QuoteDoes anyone here maybe know if the Lock-In's will ever be sold again? Always wanted to try these. Best of two worlds in my opinion. Rolling up curbs for slappys, locking grinds in on ledges. At least in my theory ^^[close]
Does anyone here maybe know if the Lock-In's will ever be sold again? Always wanted to try these. Best of two worlds in my opinion. Rolling up curbs for slappys, locking grinds in on ledges. At least in my theory ^^
Expand QuoteDunno, maybe discontinued because they weren't popular. Asymmetrical wheels are not practical. They sucked for crooks too, same problem someone above was having with the tabletsExpand QuoteDoes anyone here maybe know if the Lock-In's will ever be sold again? Always wanted to try these. Best of two worlds in my opinion. Rolling up curbs for slappys, locking grinds in on ledges. At least in my theory ^^[close][close]
what was the whole deal with people on here skating them backwards?
seems like the most popular shapes are ; classics and conical fulls
New Conical Fulls 97DU, coming soon
https://www.instagram.com/p/CMIKC3wl_KU/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link (https://www.instagram.com/p/CMIKC3wl_KU/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link)
i wonder how different these 97a's would be from my slimeball 97's
been riding the slimeballs recently after being 99a classics, and have to say for grinds im really enjoying the width and square edge of the slimeballs
Expand Quotei wonder how different these 97a's would be from my slimeball 97's
been riding the slimeballs recently after being 99a classics, and have to say for grinds im really enjoying the width and square edge of the slimeballs[close]
How do they slide?
Expand QuoteExpand Quotei wonder how different these 97a's would be from my slimeball 97's
been riding the slimeballs recently after being 99a classics, and have to say for grinds im really enjoying the width and square edge of the slimeballs[close]
How do they slide?[close]
They slide fine when i want them too, but when i don’t they have good grip and i don’t ever feel that ill slip out
I like the 97s on rough and crusty stuff and super slippery indoor stuff. Concrete park 99s are faster for sure.
I have never in my life seen classic fulls. Wider riding surface but same rounded sides? I love the classics, just wish they were a bit wider in the surface area, so these sound dope.
I have never in my life seen classic fulls. Wider riding surface but same rounded sides? I love the classics, just wish they were a bit wider in the surface area, so these sound dope.
(http://spitfirewheels.com/img/spring16/sf/9_F4_SHAPES_DT-1200.jpg)
classic fulls are very good
Expand QuoteI have never in my life seen classic fulls. Wider riding surface but same rounded sides? I love the classics, just wish they were a bit wider in the surface area, so these sound dope.[close]
I had a set of the Classic Full 99's a few years ago. Not sure they're still in production.
I'm psyched to try out some of those 97a Conical Fulls though, and they will go on my cruiser and probably hit the spot I'm looking for.
Expand QuoteI have never in my life seen classic fulls. Wider riding surface but same rounded sides? I love the classics, just wish they were a bit wider in the surface area, so these sound dope.[close]Expand Quote(http://spitfirewheels.com/img/spring16/sf/9_F4_SHAPES_DT-1200.jpg)[close]
Call me weird or whatever, but I used to buy these in sets of four, so I could have the full set of normal wheels and people I know could get the full set of coloured wheels, which was almost a complete one off, so they were happy and I was happy to have the rest.
https://www.instagram.com/p/B3LcmEQFJnN/
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Call me weird or whatever, but I used to buy these in sets of four, so I could have the full set of normal wheels and people I know could get the full set of coloured wheels, which was almost a complete one off, so they were happy and I was happy to have the rest.[close]
I've been known to do that just to get full colorway sets as well.
I took a trip down memory lane looking for something else and came across the old Catalogs from 2015, still up for now...
https://www.dlxsf.com/fall15/sf.html
(https://www.dlxsf.com/fall15/img/fall15/sf/07-F4-CLASSIC-800.jpg)
Wow. Thanks so much ya all for the info. Will see if I can find classic fulls in Germany/Europe.
My 54mm radial slims are down to 50mm and I can feel that East-German crust a lot in my ankles ^^
I absolutely hate every new part so I ride it to infinity, be it decks, shoes, bushings.
Not sure if this was posted or not, but this was the insert that came with my wheels a few days ago
Anyone tried the 97 duro Formula Four Classics? Huge fan of 80HD Chargers + OG Classics, but looking for something a little in-between for everyday use.
Expand QuoteAnyone tried the 97 duro Formula Four Classics? Huge fan of 80HD Chargers + OG Classics, but looking for something a little in-between for everyday use.[close]
Yes I have the 54
They're amazing. The perfect wheel. Zero drawbacks.
Sounds like bullshit but it's true.
I am skating the ultra crust. Never really go to parks.
Expand QuoteAnyone tried the 97 duro Formula Four Classics? Huge fan of 80HD Chargers + OG Classics, but looking for something a little in-between for everyday use.[close]
Yes I have the 54
They're amazing. The perfect wheel. Zero drawbacks.
Sounds like bullshit but it's true.
I am skating the ultra crust. Never really go to parks.
https://www.zumiez.com/spitfire-formula-four-conical-full-56mm-97a-teal-natural-skateboard-wheels.htmlthey would.
If you can't wait for your local to swing em zumiez has the 97 a conical fulls in 54 and 56
they would.Expand Quotehttps://www.zumiez.com/spitfire-formula-four-conical-full-56mm-97a-teal-natural-skateboard-wheels.html
If you can't wait for your local to swing em zumiez has the 97 a conical fulls in 54 and 56[close]
just set up my 97a classics and have nfg v-cut in 95a, just need to keep riding these. maybe replace the classics eventually depending how they wear
Can't find them nfg anywhere in europe
anyone see the concial full 97a in 58mm or was that just a sick joke?zumiez has em but shops should be soon/any week now/whenever next dlx delivery
Anyone know anything about these Spitfire F4 wheels.
They started showing up in Europe and they are cheaper than usual, if they are legit they seems like good deal if you like smaller wheels.
zumiez has em but shops should be soon/any week now/whenever next dlx deliveryExpand Quoteanyone see the concial full 97a in 58mm or was that just a sick joke?[close]
Expand QuoteAnyone know anything about these Spitfire F4 wheels.
They started showing up in Europe and they are cheaper than usual, if they are legit they seems like good deal if you like smaller wheels.[close]
Lil smokies - single print wheels with minimal packaging which are cheaper to produce, usually only in 50mm 101 duro, but seem to be in a few shapes, including classic, tablet and even conical from what people had said and what I had seen online.
(https://www.longboarderlabs.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/Spitfire-Lil-Smokies-50mm-101a-natural-500x500.jpg)
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteAnyone know anything about these Spitfire F4 wheels.
They started showing up in Europe and they are cheaper than usual, if they are legit they seems like good deal if you like smaller wheels.[close]
Lil smokies - single print wheels with minimal packaging which are cheaper to produce, usually only in 50mm 101 duro, but seem to be in a few shapes, including classic, tablet and even conical from what people had said and what I had seen online.
(https://www.longboarderlabs.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/Spitfire-Lil-Smokies-50mm-101a-natural-500x500.jpg)[close]
I skated a set and I know a couple other people did. Skated like normal F4s. I kind of love how they look with the minimal graphics and all.
yeah you’re right I misread. Got some time on my 97a classics and they’re sweet, the conical fills could be the perfect wheelExpand Quotezumiez has em but shops should be soon/any week now/whenever next dlx deliveryExpand Quoteanyone see the concial full 97a in 58mm or was that just a sick joke?[close][close]
I thought they only had 54 and 56 sizes.
They are definitely in production, so as you said, I would imagine that the good skate shops would be getting some in whenever they next get wheels.
I still cannot see any online anywhere though, but I haven't seen any besides on the Spitfire instagram either.
anyone tried the f4 og classics in 60mm?
yeah I put swirls facing in. Text out same w classicsExpand Quoteanyone tried the f4 og classics in 60mm?[close]
I just got them in F4 OG classics in 58mm and I just the board up last week, but they feel good. Love a big wheel and love the look and shape.
I am curious what side most people have the stripes facing with these. I've always been graphics in and there really isn't anything on the other side so I have the stripes on the inside.
Expand Quoteanyone tried the f4 og classics in 60mm?[close]
I just got them in F4 OG classics in 58mm and I just the board up last week, but they feel good. Love a big wheel and love the look and shape.
I am curious what side most people have the stripes facing with these. I've always been graphics in and there really isn't anything on the other side so I have the stripes on the inside.
@Mbrimson88
https://www.instagram.com/p/CMz1BymFyX0/?igshid=1nso510pcsv8t
Making 97a classics in 53mm now... not much different than the 54mm we already have
56 conical full worn to the 49-53 range is my favorite.Expand Quote@Mbrimson88
https://www.instagram.com/p/CMz1BymFyX0/?igshid=1nso510pcsv8t
Making 97a classics in 53mm now... not much different than the 54mm we already have[close]
Yeah, I hadn't even checked Instagram today.
But it is amazing how many people don't want to ride 54mm or bigger when it comes to wheels.
I know lots of people are strictly 52mm, but will ride 53 if they have to, also saying 54 are just too big and wide and whatever else. I think it is all down to personal preference and a lot of people (pro and normal alike) ride slightly smaller wheels on their regular board, so it was a "popular demand" option, same as lots of people wanted the 97 duro in conical full, which they have done.
I would be stoked to get classic 56mm and once they wear down to about 52 or so it is perfect, but that is just me.
56 conical full worn to the 49-53 range is my favorite.Expand QuoteExpand Quote
Making 97a classics in 53mm now... not much different than the 54mm we already have[close]
Yeah, I hadn't even checked Instagram today.
But it is amazing how many people don't want to ride 54mm or bigger when it comes to wheels.
I know lots of people are strictly 52mm, but will ride 53 if they have to, also saying 54 are just too big and wide and whatever else. I think it is all down to personal preference and a lot of people (pro and normal alike) ride slightly smaller wheels on their regular board, so it was a "popular demand" option, same as lots of people wanted the 97 duro in conical full, which they have done.
I would be stoked to get classic 56mm and once they wear down to about 52 or so it is perfect, but that is just me.[close]
back when i rode thunders i couldnt handle 53s but big wheels and ventures has been dreamy. think i could max out with 58s no risers but doubt the extra 2mm contact patch is worth the wheelbite.
found that big wheels/light trucks is my go to over small wheels/standard trucks, the "weight" feels better on the end of the axles imo
asked for the shipment date a week ahead, figured they would be gone immediately.Expand Quoteinteresting. Hopefully they adjust their production/orders in the near future if they see the demand for 97a. I’m loving my 97a 54mm classics. I’d like to try the 56mm and I think I’d rather have the conical full over og classics. Either way though, I’d take eitherExpand QuoteExpand Quotelike selling out before they even hit shelves? Or just didn’t make that many?Expand QuoteExpand Quote56mm for the crust setup
(https://i.ibb.co/dDF3PD2/0-C7-EE981-38-C5-4-F22-95-F1-F747-D6-B7525-A.jpg) (https://ibb.co/dDF3PD2)[close]
That is the first set of those I have seen anywhere (other than the stock / catalog pics).
They already seem to be in very short supply, according to a few others I have talked to.[close][close]
A bit of both - something along the lines of "demand exceeded production in unprecedented levels" for all DLX hardgoods, so I guess more people want them than ever, but they are still trying to catch up from covid issues.
I still haven't heard if those other 97s in the info are just the normal Classic or OG classic though...
Not a worry to me either way, but I know people would love a 97 OG classic![close][close]
was the only set they had (left?) in the glass. couldve been more in the back but i wouldnt bet on it
I put conical fulls on my egg and not really stoked on them. Feels harder to look into crooks and with Thunders they stick on noseslides a lot. Will the rounded side of the OG classic be a bit better?
I put conical fulls on my egg and not really stoked on them. Feels harder to look into crooks and with Thunders they stick on noseslides a lot. Will the rounded side of the OG classic be a bit better?
Seconded on Radial Sims, like them more than Tablets.
Expand QuoteSeconded on Radial Sims, like them more than Tablets.[close]
Radial Slims are the best shape!
Great, the perfect shapes are the ones I can never find in natural colored 99a
I just purchased the 97 F4 56 classics from my local. I have this theory in my head that has me convinced I'm going to feel like I'm riding regular 99 56 MM wheels. This being because formula 4 usually feels like a harder durometer compared to the classic urethane so being in 97 formula 4 I think it's going to feel like a 99 but either way I'm excited to try them. I just barely purchased my first set of formula for wheels a couple months back the 52 mm conical folds and I absolutely love them but since moving to St Louis and skating a lot of crusty spots I need to get a significantly bigger wheel.
Expand QuoteI just purchased the 97 F4 56 classics from my local. I have this theory in my head that has me convinced I'm going to feel like I'm riding regular 99 56 MM wheels. This being because formula 4 usually feels like a harder durometer compared to the classic urethane so being in 97 formula 4 I think it's going to feel like a 99 but either way I'm excited to try them. I just barely purchased my first set of formula for wheels a couple months back the 52 mm conical folds and I absolutely love them but since moving to St Louis and skating a lot of crusty spots I need to get a significantly bigger wheel.[close]
What’s your setup? I ask because 56 is tall as hell, for me. You using risers or whut
I look at the pack in card that got posted earlier in the thread on the regular so I thought I'd update with most recent card. This one is from the CF 97As so is about as fresh as you can get.
Are Lock-ins discontinued? I have not seen them in a while.
Expand QuoteAre Lock-ins discontinued? I have not seen them in a while.[close]
My friends who swear by Lock-ins always complain about availability. One of them bought 10 packs or something when he visited NYC before the pandemic. Definitely dedicated to this wheel. I don’t quite get the appeal, aren’t Tablets the lighter Lock-ins?
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteAre Lock-ins discontinued? I have not seen them in a while.[close]
My friends who swear by Lock-ins always complain about availability. One of them bought 10 packs or something when he visited NYC before the pandemic. Definitely dedicated to this wheel. I don’t quite get the appeal, aren’t Tablets the lighter Lock-ins?[close]
My experience with lock-ins vs. tablets is that the lock-ins have a wider riding surface and the tablets feel super thin. The rounded outside edge of the lock-ins is nice too for doing slappies or getting onto a ledge bc I find that if I don’t have enough height the rounded edge rolls onto the ledge/curb and then the conical edge on the inside keeps me locked in. This could all be just my own gear madness but I keep coming back to my old faithful lock-ins and having a better experience than with tablets
Had an issue with one wheel in a set of 80HD chargers - bearing would fall out - and wrote to Spitfire. They sent me a set of the 97a conicals (as they were out of Chargers) as a replacement. I'm excited to set those up.go nuts with those 97a conicals. The 97a formula rules. Chargers are something to stay away from to be honest, I’d move to another brand for a true cruiser wheel sad to say
And as an added plus, when I told my local shop I got the Chargers from about it, they said they had a bunch of batches with bad wheels and gave me a loosey from a different set they popped open.
I’ve had two sets of chargers probably ten years apart and both sucked. The ricta clouds were the play for mego nuts with those 97a conicals. The 97a formula rules. Chargers are something to stay away from to be honest, I’d move to another brand for a true cruiser wheel sad to sayExpand QuoteHad an issue with one wheel in a set of 80HD chargers - bearing would fall out - and wrote to Spitfire. They sent me a set of the 97a conicals (as they were out of Chargers) as a replacement. I'm excited to set those up.
And as an added plus, when I told my local shop I got the Chargers from about it, they said they had a bunch of batches with bad wheels and gave me a loosey from a different set they popped open.[close]
go nuts with those 97a conicals. The 97a formula rules. Chargers are something to stay away from to be honest, I’d move to another brand for a true cruiser wheel sad to sayExpand QuoteHad an issue with one wheel in a set of 80HD chargers - bearing would fall out - and wrote to Spitfire. They sent me a set of the 97a conicals (as they were out of Chargers) as a replacement. I'm excited to set those up.
And as an added plus, when I told my local shop I got the Chargers from about it, they said they had a bunch of batches with bad wheels and gave me a loosey from a different set they popped open.[close]
Had an issue with one wheel in a set of 80HD chargers - bearing would fall out - and wrote to Spitfire. They sent me a set of the 97a conicals (as they were out of Chargers) as a replacement. I'm excited to set those up.
And as an added plus, when I told my local shop I got the Chargers from about it, they said they had a bunch of batches with bad wheels and gave me a loosey from a different set they popped open.
Where the fuck are those 97a F4OG classics at?only classic and conical full to my knowledge. I think the OG classic 97a was a misprint/rumor only
only classic and conical full to my knowledge. I think the OG classic 97a was a misprint/rumor onlyExpand QuoteWhere the fuck are those 97a F4OG classics at?[close]
Expand Quoteonly classic and conical full to my knowledge. I think the OG classic 97a was a misprint/rumor onlyExpand QuoteWhere the fuck are those 97a F4OG classics at?[close][close]
That's a bummer, I was holding out...just bit on the 97a 54mm conical fulls that are out....so be it.
What's the verdict on the 97a FF?
Mega interested in rolling a pair. I'm coming from riding Spitfire Classic no formula style.
Is it going to be too soft for my comfort zone?
What's the verdict on the 97a FF?
Mega interested in rolling a pair. I'm coming from riding Spitfire Classic no formula style.
Is it going to be too soft for my comfort zone?
56mm conical full 97a
skating new york streets and i cant see any reason to go back to 99a, or any other wheel for that point. they make my 2 year old reds feel like swiss over any terrain, they are that good
either way they fucking go.Expand Quote56mm conical full 97a
skating new york streets and i cant see any reason to go back to 99a, or any other wheel for that point. they make my 2 year old reds feel like swiss over any terrain, they are that good[close]
Right? Maybe it's just how much better they are with shitty east coast streets but I can't believe how fast they are.
either way they fucking go.Expand QuoteExpand Quote56mm conical full 97a
skating new york streets and i cant see any reason to go back to 99a, or any other wheel for that point. they make my 2 year old reds feel like swiss over any terrain, they are that good[close]
Right? Maybe it's just how much better they are with shitty east coast streets but I can't believe how fast they are.[close]
really dont see the need for another wheel
Expand Quoteeither way they fucking go.Expand QuoteExpand Quote56mm conical full 97a
skating new york streets and i cant see any reason to go back to 99a, or any other wheel for that point. they make my 2 year old reds feel like swiss over any terrain, they are that good[close]
Right? Maybe it's just how much better they are with shitty east coast streets but I can't believe how fast they are.[close]
really dont see the need for another wheel[close]
Same here guys.
It's funny I took out my 7.6 quiver yesterday on the brutal Dublin streets. I got 99a f4s on it.
Man I could really really feel the difference in my legs this morning. So sore.
I'm 97a for life.
The Spigire 97aExpand QuoteExpand Quoteeither way they fucking go.Expand QuoteExpand Quote56mm conical full 97a
skating new york streets and i cant see any reason to go back to 99a, or any other wheel for that point. they make my 2 year old reds feel like swiss over any terrain, they are that good[close]
Right? Maybe it's just how much better they are with shitty east coast streets but I can't believe how fast they are.[close]
really dont see the need for another wheel[close]
Same here guys.
It's funny I took out my 7.6 quiver yesterday on the brutal Dublin streets. I got 99a f4s on it.
Man I could really really feel the difference in my legs this morning. So sore.
I'm 97a for life.[close]
The 97a Spits are the real deal. They feel just a tad slower than the 99a but just roll over anything. I'm sold.
Slide great, and will still slide out if you are not careful, but legit feel like a cruiser wheel when cruising and a regular wheel when you want them to be. I skate crusty spots these days so they're perfect.
Expand QuoteThe Spigire 97aExpand QuoteExpand Quoteeither way they fucking go.Expand QuoteExpand Quote56mm conical full 97a
skating new york streets and i cant see any reason to go back to 99a, or any other wheel for that point. they make my 2 year old reds feel like swiss over any terrain, they are that good[close]
Right? Maybe it's just how much better they are with shitty east coast streets but I can't believe how fast they are.[close]
really dont see the need for another wheel[close]
Same here guys.
It's funny I took out my 7.6 quiver yesterday on the brutal Dublin streets. I got 99a f4s on it.
Man I could really really feel the difference in my legs this morning. So sore.
I'm 97a for life.[close]
The 97a Spits are the real deal. They feel just a tad slower than the 99a but just roll over anything. I'm sold.
Slide great, and will still slide out if you are not careful, but legit feel like a cruiser wheel when cruising and a regular wheel when you want them to be. I skate crusty spots these days so they're perfect.[close]
How much ledge skating do you do? Curious as that’s what I skate 90% of the time. The 97as sound great, but I’m thinking they will be too sticky. I know you said they still slide, but how much harder is it to say nose slide ? Lip slide/blunt slides?
Anyone have a chance to compare the 97a Spits to 95a Oj Nomads? Seem to be trying to hit the same market. Always loyal to Spitfire, but I do dig Oj's for softer stuff ...
Expand QuoteAnyone have a chance to compare the 97a Spits to 95a Oj Nomads? Seem to be trying to hit the same market. Always loyal to Spitfire, but I do dig Oj's for softer stuff ...[close]
I've posted a comparison in other threads a few times now. Long story short, both really good wheels that roll as advertised. I prefer the spits as they feel closer to what I usually ride (F4 99as). However the OJs really impressed me also.
The OJs feel like a legit 95 and the Spits a legit 97. Both were almost impossible to flatspot, or chip. Both seem to wear slightly faster than harder wheels but both also seemed faster than other wheels I've used in those durometers.
Crusty streets or super slick indoor spots. Can't go wrong with either.
Can anyone tell what shape and size wheels these are? Those are Indy 149's and Jaakko is on Spitfire.
(https://i.imgur.com/gcFqxyu.jpg)
Expand QuoteThe Spigire 97aExpand QuoteExpand Quoteeither way they fucking go.Expand QuoteExpand Quote56mm conical full 97a
skating new york streets and i cant see any reason to go back to 99a, or any other wheel for that point. they make my 2 year old reds feel like swiss over any terrain, they are that good[close]
Right? Maybe it's just how much better they are with shitty east coast streets but I can't believe how fast they are.[close]
really dont see the need for another wheel[close]
Same here guys.
It's funny I took out my 7.6 quiver yesterday on the brutal Dublin streets. I got 99a f4s on it.
Man I could really really feel the difference in my legs this morning. So sore.
I'm 97a for life.[close]
The 97a Spits are the real deal. They feel just a tad slower than the 99a but just roll over anything. I'm sold.
Slide great, and will still slide out if you are not careful, but legit feel like a cruiser wheel when cruising and a regular wheel when you want them to be. I skate crusty spots these days so they're perfect.[close]
How much ledge skating do you do? Curious as that’s what I skate 90% of the time. The 97as sound great, but I’m thinking they will be too sticky. I know you said they still slide, but how much harder is it to say nose slide ? Lip slide/blunt slides?
Expand QuoteCan anyone tell what shape and size wheels these are? Those are Indy 149's and Jaakko is on Spitfire.
(https://i.imgur.com/gcFqxyu.jpg)[close]
These look like 53mm radials to me.
Just checking but there's no 97a f4s under 54mm right? Would be down for a 53 or 52 tbh, in a radial slim or something ideally.
@Mbrimson88
https://www.instagram.com/p/CMz1BymFyX0/?igshid=1nso510pcsv8t
Making 97a classics in 53mm now... not much different than the 54mm we already have
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteThe Spigire 97aExpand QuoteExpand Quoteeither way they fucking go.Expand QuoteExpand Quote56mm conical full 97a
skating new york streets and i cant see any reason to go back to 99a, or any other wheel for that point. they make my 2 year old reds feel like swiss over any terrain, they are that good[close]
Right? Maybe it's just how much better they are with shitty east coast streets but I can't believe how fast they are.[close]
really dont see the need for another wheel[close]
Same here guys.
It's funny I took out my 7.6 quiver yesterday on the brutal Dublin streets. I got 99a f4s on it.
Man I could really really feel the difference in my legs this morning. So sore.
I'm 97a for life.[close]
The 97a Spits are the real deal. They feel just a tad slower than the 99a but just roll over anything. I'm sold.
Slide great, and will still slide out if you are not careful, but legit feel like a cruiser wheel when cruising and a regular wheel when you want them to be. I skate crusty spots these days so they're perfect.[close]
How much ledge skating do you do? Curious as that’s what I skate 90% of the time. The 97as sound great, but I’m thinking they will be too sticky. I know you said they still slide, but how much harder is it to say nose slide ? Lip slide/blunt slides?[close]
A fair amount; they are bit stickier than 99s but just a tiny bit, we're talking 2 duro difference here...I had no problems with blunt slides and didn't feel them sticking on grinds.
So I'm stating the obvious but clearly classic and conical full are the most popular shapes as they get the full spectrum duro treatment spit offers. I'd love to see the radial slim in this duro.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteThe Spigire 97aExpand QuoteExpand Quoteeither way they fucking go.Expand QuoteExpand Quote56mm conical full 97a
skating new york streets and i cant see any reason to go back to 99a, or any other wheel for that point. they make my 2 year old reds feel like swiss over any terrain, they are that good[close]
Right? Maybe it's just how much better they are with shitty east coast streets but I can't believe how fast they are.[close]
really dont see the need for another wheel[close]
Same here guys.
It's funny I took out my 7.6 quiver yesterday on the brutal Dublin streets. I got 99a f4s on it.
Man I could really really feel the difference in my legs this morning. So sore.
I'm 97a for life.[close]
The 97a Spits are the real deal. They feel just a tad slower than the 99a but just roll over anything. I'm sold.
Slide great, and will still slide out if you are not careful, but legit feel like a cruiser wheel when cruising and a regular wheel when you want them to be. I skate crusty spots these days so they're perfect.[close]
How much ledge skating do you do? Curious as that’s what I skate 90% of the time. The 97as sound great, but I’m thinking they will be too sticky. I know you said they still slide, but how much harder is it to say nose slide ? Lip slide/blunt slides?[close]
A fair amount; they are bit stickier than 99s but just a tiny bit, we're talking 2 duro difference here...I had no problems with blunt slides and didn't feel them sticking on grinds.
So I'm stating the obvious but clearly classic and conical full are the most popular shapes as they get the full spectrum duro treatment spit offers. I'd love to see the radial slim in this duro.[close]
Thanks for the feedback pals. I also would prefer smaller than 54's and a different shape, lock ins or tablets ideally but radials would be cool too. I may just get a set to put on the neighborhood cruiser for when I take my dog on runs. You guys are liking them on rough asphalt? I have 80hds and they are fine as far as speed, but im never comfortable cruising as I can't power slide on hills.
Anyone else find that 101 F4s actually grip a little better than the 99s? I started riding some 101 radial slims this week expecting them to be slipperier, but I find they grab a little better on dusty ground and they're faster to boot. Maybe it's just my imagination, but it's almost like they are to the 99s what Bones SPF is to STF.
I’m about to get some new wheels. I’ve skated the spitfire classics 54mm forever. I mainly skate ledges and 4-5 foot transition. The ground around me is comically bad so 55mm 97a seems really appealing but I’m worried about pulling the trigger. Can you still power slide normally with something that soft? Does it feel more like a cruiser wheel or regular wheel.
I’m about to get some new wheels. I’ve skated the spitfire classics 54mm forever. I mainly skate ledges and 4-5 foot transition. The ground around me is comically bad so 55mm 97a seems really appealing but I’m worried about pulling the trigger. Can you still power slide normally with something that soft? Does it feel more like a cruiser wheel or regular wheel.
Anyone else find that 101 F4s actually grip a little better than the 99s? I started riding some 101 radial slims this week expecting them to be slipperier, but I find they grab a little better on dusty ground and they're faster to boot. Maybe it's just my imagination, but it's almost like they are to the 99s what Bones SPF is to STF.
Expand QuoteAnyone else find that 101 F4s actually grip a little better than the 99s? I started riding some 101 radial slims this week expecting them to be slipperier, but I find they grab a little better on dusty ground and they're faster to boot. Maybe it's just my imagination, but it's almost like they are to the 99s what Bones SPF is to STF.[close]
I’ve noticed the same for all my 101 F4 also. Surprising! I wonder if that applies to other wheels too, like Oj elites. My bones 99’s are definitely way grippier than their harder formulas so it doesn’t hold there.
In my opinion the slide/grip ratio has everything to do with the ride patch width. Had some 51 Classic 101's - these have to be the slipperiest wheels I have ever used. These things were nasty slippery on masonite. Then got 52 Tablets 99 - those are as solid as a rock in comparison. Have to actually work them to get them to slide. They are slower compared to wheels with a slim riding patch, but I'll take that, especially indoors.
Yeah, I can definitely tell a difference between radials and radial slims in terms of how well they hold on, given how much wider radials are, but I'm comparing apples to apples here. I went from 54mm 99a radial slims to 54mm 101a radial slims and can definitely tell a difference in terms of how they grip, and it didn't go in the direction I'd have expected.
Expand QuoteYeah, I can definitely tell a difference between radials and radial slims in terms of how well they hold on, given how much wider radials are, but I'm comparing apples to apples here. I went from 54mm 99a radial slims to 54mm 101a radial slims and can definitely tell a difference in terms of how they grip, and it didn't go in the direction I'd have expected.[close]
Yup I get it, makes me wonder whether the 101 Tablets would grip like 99 Tablets on Masonite. If they do that would be amazing as they only complaint I have towards 99 Tablets is they're pretty slow.
Lost a huge chunk of wheel on my 99a Radial Slims on a poorly maintained park ledge. The angle iron is coming out the ledge and probably look a bit off on a slide. They still roll fine, not feeling the missing chunk yet but it's a matter of time before it falls apart.
I got myself a set of Bones V3s and had plans to swap out but I've been spoiled by Spitfires.
💔Expand QuoteLost a huge chunk of wheel on my 99a Radial Slims on a poorly maintained park ledge. The angle iron is coming out the ledge and probably look a bit off on a slide. They still roll fine, not feeling the missing chunk yet but it's a matter of time before it falls apart.
I got myself a set of Bones V3s and had plans to swap out but I've been spoiled by Spitfires.[close]
I'd like to see that.
Looks something like these ones?
Note: This is not a manufacturing issue, it is a location issue - big old screw sticking out of a ledge took a chunk out of the wheel. The rest of the info in the post, but too much to put up here when people don't need to read it.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CJkLzXBFzrd/
&#128148;Expand QuoteExpand QuoteLost a huge chunk of wheel on my 99a Radial Slims on a poorly maintained park ledge. The angle iron is coming out the ledge and probably look a bit off on a slide. They still roll fine, not feeling the missing chunk yet but it's a matter of time before it falls apart.
I got myself a set of Bones V3s and had plans to swap out but I've been spoiled by Spitfires.[close]
I'd like to see that.
Looks something like these ones?
Note: This is not a manufacturing issue, it is a location issue - big old screw sticking out of a ledge took a chunk out of the wheel. The rest of the info in the post, but too much to put up here when people don't need to read it.[close]
Whats up with lots of people running OG classics now? I feel like I notice more pros than ever are skating them.
One that surprised me is Bobby in the new Quasi video.
I kinda want to try them out if not just for the fact they don't go yellow after 1 session.
Expand QuoteWhats up with lots of people running OG classics now? I feel like I notice more pros than ever are skating them.
One that surprised me is Bobby in the new Quasi video.
I kinda want to try them out if not just for the fact they don't go yellow after 1 session.[close]
Maybe that's what's in the monthly box?
Sell the F4$, skate the OGs.
Just got a pair of 56mm 97a classics so I’m stoked to get out there and try themgreat choice. Loving my 54mm 97a classics but the temptation has me wanting to step up to the 56mm conical fulls too
i dont need two setups at oncegreat choice. Loving my 54mm 97a classics but the temptation has me wanting to step up to the 56mm conical fulls tooExpand QuoteJust got a pair of 56mm 97a classics so I’m stoked to get out there and try them[close]
When did 58mm come out?
https://www.zumiez.com/spitfire-formula-four-classic-58mm-97a-natural-turquoise-skateboard-wheels.html
i dont need two setups at onceExpand Quotegreat choice. Loving my 54mm 97a classics but the temptation has me wanting to step up to the 56mm conical fulls tooExpand QuoteJust got a pair of 56mm 97a classics so I’m stoked to get out there and try them[close]
When did 58mm come out?
https://www.zumiez.com/spitfire-formula-four-classic-58mm-97a-natural-turquoise-skateboard-wheels.html[close]
i dont need two setups at once
i dont need two setups at once
great choice. Loving my 54mm 97a classics but the temptation has me wanting to step up to the 56mm conical fulls tooExpand QuoteJust got a pair of 56mm 97a classics so I’m stoked to get out there and try them[close]
When did 58mm come out?
https://www.zumiez.com/spitfire-formula-four-classic-58mm-97a-natural-turquoise-skateboard-wheels.html
There is a school with fun, mellow curbs that is seconds from my house but the ground is hell. 56mm 97 classics unlocked the spot. These are great wheels.
has anyone ever actually seen regular conicals (not full) in 101a? i've had my eye out for months.
has anyone ever actually seen regular conicals (not full) in 101a? i've had my eye out for months.
has anyone ever actually seen regular conicals (not full) in 101a? i've had my eye out for months.
has anyone ever actually seen regular conicals (not full) in 101a? i've had my eye out for months.Geometric has 52, 53, 54, and 56.
Geometric has 52, 53, 54, and 56.Expand Quotehas anyone ever actually seen regular conicals (not full) in 101a? i've had my eye out for months.[close]
https://www.geometricskateshop.com/search?type=product&q=spitfire+conical+101d
Apologies if it’s been discussed before but thoughts on 52mm 99D tablets? Canadian ground. I know most would run bigger wheels but I’m a one setup guy right now and worry anything over a 53mm would give me a lot of wheel bite. I run my trucks medium-tight. Mostly skate flat and curbs. Cruise the park a bit but not that often.
Open to other suggestions as well.
Expand QuoteApologies if it’s been discussed before but thoughts on 52mm 99D tablets? Canadian ground. I know most would run bigger wheels but I’m a one setup guy right now and worry anything over a 53mm would give me a lot of wheel bite. I run my trucks medium-tight. Mostly skate flat and curbs. Cruise the park a bit but not that often.
Open to other suggestions as well.[close]
What city? Or if you’re not comfortable with that, what region and are you in the city or not? I feel like if you’re downtown in any major city it might be fine, but if you’re rural, or in a place like Ottawa (outside of downtown) where the roads are constantly fucked, it’s gonna be really rough IMO.
There is a school with fun, mellow curbs that is seconds from my house but the ground is hell. 56mm 97 classics unlocked the spot. These are great wheels.Reading this made me happy.
https://www.instagram.com/p/COTCePuAWs7/?igshid=fczpjqledjfaLmao god dammit I literally JUST bought some 97a conical full 56mm, rode around on them once, and thought “shit this rocks but I bet I would like a 95 or 92 even better” >:(
Lmao god dammit I literally JUST bought some 97a conical full 56mm, rode around on them once, and thought “shit this rocks but I bet I would like a 95 or 92 even better” >:(Expand Quotehttps://www.instagram.com/p/COTCePuAWs7/?igshid=fczpjqledjfa[close]
Still happy tho, they pretty much do exactly what it says on the box, so to speak. A tiny bit softer then 99s, still bark and slide plenty. A much more “real” wheel than the 92a ricta clouds I had previously used when trying to balance easy rolling with still being able to slide. F4 really is the GOAT formula, I wish spit would just crank them out in every possible shape, duro, and size.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteApologies if it’s been discussed before but thoughts on 52mm 99D tablets? Canadian ground. I know most would run bigger wheels but I’m a one setup guy right now and worry anything over a 53mm would give me a lot of wheel bite. I run my trucks medium-tight. Mostly skate flat and curbs. Cruise the park a bit but not that often.
Open to other suggestions as well.[close]
What city? Or if you’re not comfortable with that, what region and are you in the city or not? I feel like if you’re downtown in any major city it might be fine, but if you’re rural, or in a place like Ottawa (outside of downtown) where the roads are constantly fucked, it’s gonna be really rough IMO.[close]
Already purchased the 99a 52mms, picking them up this afternoon. I’m currently in Toronto, but moving to a smaller city inside the GTA (heading west) pretty soon, which gets more snow than toronto. How fucked am I? Hahah. I’m thinking the roads are gonna be bad. Since I’ve never lived there I do plan on biking around looking for spots, rather than skating around randomly at first. But I do love to just go out and push around so I might have to grab another set of something later this summer.
Realistically I should probably be on something 54mm or above and on the softer side. But I’m a one setup guy right now and getting back into skating so the smaller wheels should help me get some tricks back faster.
(https://i.ibb.co/qmQJFzn/929-A6752-9-BDC-441-A-B2-EF-BED2-E85178-F9.jpg) (https://ibb.co/qmQJFzn)
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteApologies if it’s been discussed before but thoughts on 52mm 99D tablets? Canadian ground. I know most would run bigger wheels but I’m a one setup guy right now and worry anything over a 53mm would give me a lot of wheel bite. I run my trucks medium-tight. Mostly skate flat and curbs. Cruise the park a bit but not that often.
Open to other suggestions as well.[close]
What city? Or if you’re not comfortable with that, what region and are you in the city or not? I feel like if you’re downtown in any major city it might be fine, but if you’re rural, or in a place like Ottawa (outside of downtown) where the roads are constantly fucked, it’s gonna be really rough IMO.[close]
Already purchased the 99a 52mms, picking them up this afternoon. I’m currently in Toronto, but moving to a smaller city inside the GTA (heading west) pretty soon, which gets more snow than toronto. How fucked am I? Hahah. I’m thinking the roads are gonna be bad. Since I’ve never lived there I do plan on biking around looking for spots, rather than skating around randomly at first. But I do love to just go out and push around so I might have to grab another set of something later this summer.
Realistically I should probably be on something 54mm or above and on the softer side. But I’m a one setup guy right now and getting back into skating so the smaller wheels should help me get some tricks back faster.[close]
You might be in for a rough ride, but I think you’ll be ok. Getting places might involve a lot of pushing, though. I’m interested to hear how it goes.
Expand QuoteLmao god dammit I literally JUST bought some 97a conical full 56mm, rode around on them once, and thought “shit this rocks but I bet I would like a 95 or 92 even better” >:(Expand Quotehttps://www.instagram.com/p/COTCePuAWs7/?igshid=fczpjqledjfa[close]
Still happy tho, they pretty much do exactly what it says on the box, so to speak. A tiny bit softer then 99s, still bark and slide plenty. A much more “real” wheel than the 92a ricta clouds I had previously used when trying to balance easy rolling with still being able to slide. F4 really is the GOAT formula, I wish spit would just crank them out in every possible shape, duro, and size.[close]
Agreed
From TnT post though it seems like these are gonna be classic though?
I don’t know if I’m trippin or not, but do the 97A’s seem like they get harder over time? I’ve been on the same set since they released the 97s (like 9 months ago) and they don’t feel as soft compared to when they were brand new. They kinda feel like 99s now when I skate down my street.
Expand QuoteI don’t know if I’m trippin or not, but do the 97A’s seem like they get harder over time? I’ve been on the same set since they released the 97s (like 9 months ago) and they don’t feel as soft compared to when they were brand new. They kinda feel like 99s now when I skate down my street.[close]
I actually noticed this with the non-F4 OG Classics. I had a set (53mm/99a) that I bought last year and have noticed that they feel more like 101a's now. Even when trying to pull the bearings out, they felt a lot more stiff and resistant than when I first set them up.
So glad to hear this, I used to think I was insane for feeling like my wheels got harder over timeExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI don’t know if I’m trippin or not, but do the 97A’s seem like they get harder over time? I’ve been on the same set since they released the 97s (like 9 months ago) and they don’t feel as soft compared to when they were brand new. They kinda feel like 99s now when I skate down my street.[close]
I actually noticed this with the non-F4 OG Classics. I had a set (53mm/99a) that I bought last year and have noticed that they feel more like 101a's now. Even when trying to pull the bearings out, they felt a lot more stiff and resistant than when I first set them up.[close]
Urethane, or good urethane will harden over time, which is why I love older wheels, as they last longer and are much less likely to have issues the way brand new straight out of the packet wheels do sometimes.
It would be interesting to put on some new 99s and see if there was still a difference between those and the older 97s, or even any other older 99s if you still have them.
With regard to seating bearings, older wheels are a pain to get bearings in and out of, but a bit of lube or something rubbed round the inside of the wheel makes it a lot easier, or for getting bearings out, drip to the edge of the bearing and wheel join and pry at it a bit and it will usually come out a lot more easily.
To Brims point, does anyone else hate new wheels? I got a feeling I’m in the minority on this one. I avoid switching for so long. I’ll ride wheels for about a year on average. Just something about em for me.
To Brims point, does anyone else hate new wheels? I got a feeling I’m in the minority on this one. I avoid switching for so long. I’ll ride wheels for about a year on average. Just something about em for me.
Expand QuoteTo Brims point, does anyone else hate new wheels? I got a feeling I’m in the minority on this one. I avoid switching for so long. I’ll ride wheels for about a year on average. Just something about em for me.[close]
Yeah I will ride my wheels for a long time, and even set up other people's old wheels (after I have machined them) and skate them just as happily more often than not.
I must admit though, new Formula Four wheels with new bearings are just so good - so fast and clean rolling - right away, maybe because they are not "treaded" and have a smooth riding surface right from new, as compared to most other wheels that you always have to wear in before really going to skate normally.
Definitely feeling the love for any wheel like that, but more so Spitfire Formula Fours every time, over Bones SPFs or Slimeballs (which I have and are the only other hard wheels that have a smooth riding surface from new).
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI don’t know if I’m trippin or not, but do the 97A’s seem like they get harder over time? I’ve been on the same set since they released the 97s (like 9 months ago) and they don’t feel as soft compared to when they were brand new. They kinda feel like 99s now when I skate down my street.[close]
I actually noticed this with the non-F4 OG Classics. I had a set (53mm/99a) that I bought last year and have noticed that they feel more like 101a's now. Even when trying to pull the bearings out, they felt a lot more stiff and resistant than when I first set them up.[close]
Urethane, or good urethane will harden over time, which is why I love older wheels, as they last longer and are much less likely to have issues the way brand new straight out of the packet wheels do sometimes.
It would be interesting to put on some new 99s and see if there was still a difference between those and the older 97s, or even any other older 99s if you still have them.
With regard to seating bearings, older wheels are a pain to get bearings in and out of, but a bit of lube or something rubbed round the inside of the wheel makes it a lot easier, or for getting bearings out, drip to the edge of the bearing and wheel join and pry at it a bit and it will usually come out a lot more easily.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI don’t know if I’m trippin or not, but do the 97A’s seem like they get harder over time? I’ve been on the same set since they released the 97s (like 9 months ago) and they don’t feel as soft compared to when they were brand new. They kinda feel like 99s now when I skate down my street.[close]
I actually noticed this with the non-F4 OG Classics. I had a set (53mm/99a) that I bought last year and have noticed that they feel more like 101a's now. Even when trying to pull the bearings out, they felt a lot more stiff and resistant than when I first set them up.[close]
Urethane, or good urethane will harden over time, which is why I love older wheels, as they last longer and are much less likely to have issues the way brand new straight out of the packet wheels do sometimes.
It would be interesting to put on some new 99s and see if there was still a difference between those and the older 97s, or even any other older 99s if you still have them.
With regard to seating bearings, older wheels are a pain to get bearings in and out of, but a bit of lube or something rubbed round the inside of the wheel makes it a lot easier, or for getting bearings out, drip to the edge of the bearing and wheel join and pry at it a bit and it will usually come out a lot more easily.[close]
I wonder if harder duro wheels are more or less suspectible to get harder as they age. For example, would Bones 103A wheels get harder at the rate of Spit 97A's or would they generally remain the same ::)
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI don’t know if I’m trippin or not, but do the 97A’s seem like they get harder over time? I’ve been on the same set since they released the 97s (like 9 months ago) and they don’t feel as soft compared to when they were brand new. They kinda feel like 99s now when I skate down my street.[close]
I actually noticed this with the non-F4 OG Classics. I had a set (53mm/99a) that I bought last year and have noticed that they feel more like 101a's now. Even when trying to pull the bearings out, they felt a lot more stiff and resistant than when I first set them up.[close]
Urethane, or good urethane will harden over time, which is why I love older wheels, as they last longer and are much less likely to have issues the way brand new straight out of the packet wheels do sometimes.
It would be interesting to put on some new 99s and see if there was still a difference between those and the older 97s, or even any other older 99s if you still have them.
With regard to seating bearings, older wheels are a pain to get bearings in and out of, but a bit of lube or something rubbed round the inside of the wheel makes it a lot easier, or for getting bearings out, drip to the edge of the bearing and wheel join and pry at it a bit and it will usually come out a lot more easily.[close]
I wonder if harder duro wheels are more or less suspectible to get harder as they age. For example, would Bones 103A wheels get harder at the rate of Spit 97A's or would they generally remain the same ::)[close]
Bones definitely get harder with age too
Love the feel of my 58s too. Still getting used to the new pop timing, but the height and speed feel great.
(https://i.ibb.co/FDZ0JnT/PXL-20210509-170127711-MP.jpg) (https://ibb.co/BCWrjwM)
I just mashed around the neighborhood. Too dark to photograph afterwards but here's the before earlier.
It's so nice to be on a 99a 58mm wheel with a large contact patch again. I can flip it just fine but I've yet to try crooks sure I'll be all right. I put my swiss bearings in that are broke in so nicely. Three of my reds had locked up in the V2s. Massive difference
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I'm looking to get a set of the 97D F4's before I do could I just get confirmation on them not fucking with power slides or slide tricks? I alternate between the 99 and 101 depending on what i'm feeling at the time of purchase. I've been skating some crustier spots lately though and while I haven't had issues my 101 conical fulls i'm curious about the 97's. (I realize they've been talked about a bunch but was wondering if any of you guys had regrets with them)Spend most of my time on the 99s, no regrets with the 97s - they still break into slides without problem, they just don't slide AS far.
Spend most of my time on the 99s, no regrets with the 97s - they still break into slides without problem, they just don't slide AS far.Expand QuoteI'm looking to get a set of the 97D F4's before I do could I just get confirmation on them not fucking with power slides or slide tricks? I alternate between the 99 and 101 depending on what i'm feeling at the time of purchase. I've been skating some crustier spots lately though and while I haven't had issues my 101 conical fulls i'm curious about the 97's. (I realize they've been talked about a bunch but was wondering if any of you guys had regrets with them)[close]
Expand QuoteSpend most of my time on the 99s, no regrets with the 97s - they still break into slides without problem, they just don't slide AS far.Expand QuoteI'm looking to get a set of the 97D F4's before I do could I just get confirmation on them not fucking with power slides or slide tricks? I alternate between the 99 and 101 depending on what i'm feeling at the time of purchase. I've been skating some crustier spots lately though and while I haven't had issues my 101 conical fulls i'm curious about the 97's. (I realize they've been talked about a bunch but was wondering if any of you guys had regrets with them)[close][close]
Damn, not I'm really excited to try my 97a Classics in 54mm. I wish they did a Radial Slim version.
I'm looking to get a set of the 97D F4's before I do could I just get confirmation on them not fucking with power slides or slide tricks? I alternate between the 99 and 101 depending on what i'm feeling at the time of purchase. I've been skating some crustier spots lately though and while I haven't had issues my 101 conical fulls i'm curious about the 97's. (I realize they've been talked about a bunch but was wondering if any of you guys had regrets with them)
is it me or are the recent batches of 99’s stickier than usual?
(https://i.ibb.co/FDZ0JnT/PXL-20210509-170127711-MP.jpg) (https://ibb.co/BCWrjwM)what wheelbase are you running cast plates with? thinking about switching it up on a 14wb
I just mashed around the neighborhood. Too dark to photograph afterwards but here's the before earlier.
It's so nice to be on a 99a 58mm wheel with a large contact patch again. I can flip it just fine but I've yet to try crooks sure I'll be all right. I put my swiss bearings in that are broke in so nicely. Three of my reds had locked up in the V2s. Massive difference
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Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI don’t know if I’m trippin or not, but do the 97A’s seem like they get harder over time? I’ve been on the same set since they released the 97s (like 9 months ago) and they don’t feel as soft compared to when they were brand new. They kinda feel like 99s now when I skate down my street.[close]
I actually noticed this with the non-F4 OG Classics. I had a set (53mm/99a) that I bought last year and have noticed that they feel more like 101a's now. Even when trying to pull the bearings out, they felt a lot more stiff and resistant than when I first set them up.[close]
Urethane, or good urethane will harden over time, which is why I love older wheels, as they last longer and are much less likely to have issues the way brand new straight out of the packet wheels do sometimes.
It would be interesting to put on some new 99s and see if there was still a difference between those and the older 97s, or even any other older 99s if you still have them.
With regard to seating bearings, older wheels are a pain to get bearings in and out of, but a bit of lube or something rubbed round the inside of the wheel makes it a lot easier, or for getting bearings out, drip to the edge of the bearing and wheel join and pry at it a bit and it will usually come out a lot more easily.
what wheelbase are you running cast plates with? thinking about switching it up on a 14wbExpand Quote(https://i.ibb.co/FDZ0JnT/PXL-20210509-170127711-MP.jpg) (https://ibb.co/BCWrjwM)
I just mashed around the neighborhood. Too dark to photograph afterwards but here's the before earlier.
It's so nice to be on a 99a 58mm wheel with a large contact patch again. I can flip it just fine but I've yet to try crooks sure I'll be all right. I put my swiss bearings in that are broke in so nicely. Three of my reds had locked up in the V2s. Massive difference
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is it me or are the recent batches of 99’s stickier than usual?
Expand Quoteis it me or are the recent batches of 99’s stickier than usual?[close]
My 99a classics felt fine (real rough shitty terrain smooth curbs); thinking about getting 99a tablets since there are no thin 97a F4s (and I want a thin wheel).
Update after a few weeks of fully skating the 97a conicals: they’ve had a couple small chunks come out and one very minor flat spot. Definitely happened much faster to inflict that kind of damage than the various 99s that have previously been my main wheels. But they still slide really nicely and they still ride great over filth.
I have both a set of 97a 56mm classics and 97a 54mm conicals. I gotta say that I prefer the classics to the conicals, but one of the problems I think I'm having with the conicals is that they are newer and haven't had time to harden up like the classics, but I've recently found both to be just a bit too sticky and soft on days when it's warmer than about 20ºC.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CPYm2o_FCUS/
Hopefully this means a restock in non slim radials.
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Hopefully this means a restock in non slim radials.[close]
I hope that too since I never had a chace to skate the regular radials. I would love to try those after all the conical shaped wheels I've skated for years.
I had those Kader radials last year I believe, hated them.
They just felt off.
I guess radials kinda = classic full no?Expand QuoteI had those Kader radials last year I believe, hated them.
They just felt off.[close]
Would like to hear more about those. I usually ride 52-54mm wheels in 99 duro and conical fulls have treated me well. Radials seem to be exactly as wide but less contact surface.
I guess radials kinda = classic full no?Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI had those Kader radials last year I believe, hated them.
They just felt off.[close]
Would like to hear more about those. I usually ride 52-54mm wheels in 99 duro and conical fulls have treated me well. Radials seem to be exactly as wide but less contact surface.[close]
Expand QuoteI guess radials kinda = classic full no?Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI had those Kader radials last year I believe, hated them.
They just felt off.[close]
Would like to hear more about those. I usually ride 52-54mm wheels in 99 duro and conical fulls have treated me well. Radials seem to be exactly as wide but less contact surface.[close][close]
Nah. Completely different shape. Radials are closer to the conical.
I have both a set of 97a 56mm classics and 97a 54mm conicals. I gotta say that I prefer the classics to the conicals, but one of the problems I think I'm having with the conicals is that they are newer and haven't had time to harden up like the classics, but I've recently found both to be just a bit too sticky and soft on days when it's warmer than about 20ºC.
I set up my first set of spitfire wheels a few days ago, F4 99 Tablets 53mm.
I'm seriously amazed. Have been riding stf(83b, v3) and spf(84b, p5) before and the tablets are so much smoother but still slide perfectly.
So far I'm sold
I set up my first set of spitfire wheels a few days ago, F4 99 Tablets 53mm.
I'm seriously amazed. Have been riding stf(83b, v3) and spf(84b, p5) before and the tablets are so much smoother but still slide perfectly.
So far I'm sold
Aight gods Im stuck in a decision. Im rocking the Tablets right now and they are getting really worn down. I fucking love these love the lock-in for transition skating and love the fact that the slide is so controlled. Was wondering is there much of a difference between the Tablets and the Radial and Conical Full shapes? Was just seeing some really cool options in those two shapes that are tempting me to change.
Hi, there! I read great reviews of the F4 here. I've never tried it before but now my shop got some wheels. The options are kind of limited and i am in between tablets 52 99 and classics 54 99. I skate only street and don't know what would be best. They also have conicals full 52 but in the 101. Can you give any suggestions what would feel better on the asphalt and would last longer? Greetings!
Expand QuoteAight gods Im stuck in a decision. Im rocking the Tablets right now and they are getting really worn down. I fucking love these love the lock-in for transition skating and love the fact that the slide is so controlled. Was wondering is there much of a difference between the Tablets and the Radial and Conical Full shapes? Was just seeing some really cool options in those two shapes that are tempting me to change.[close]Expand QuoteHi, there! I read great reviews of the F4 here. I've never tried it before but now my shop got some wheels. The options are kind of limited and i am in between tablets 52 99 and classics 54 99. I skate only street and don't know what would be best. They also have conicals full 52 but in the 101. Can you give any suggestions what would feel better on the asphalt and would last longer? Greetings![close]
Tablets are a very skinny wheel with a very sharp edge, so will lock in more and have a lot more truck contact.
Conical full are a very wide wheel, so less truck width between wheels, with a slightly rounded edge but still lock in.
Radials are a medium width wheel, so pretty much in between the first two, with a wide surface area but still a moderately rounded edge, so about the medium ground.
Just for comparison, Classics are a medium width wheel across the widest point around the bearing seat, with a very rounded edge and minimal surface contact.
Some people say rounder wheels are easier to slide, flip and wear more evenly, but others I know prefer the wider profiles and sharper edges to lock in on rails and ledges more than anything else.
With regard to 99 or 101, I feel like 99s are always a more well balanced and an all rounder for duro than 101, especially if you are going to skate rougher surfaces, vs 101 on smoother faster surfaces.
@El Freegano I would be taking the 54mm classic 99s as they are a bit bigger so will last longer and skate more easily on rough roads, but that is just me.
The choice is yours...
@Mbrimson88 Thanks dude! After years of skating Classic shapes the wider wheels with sharper edges are my new drug. Which would you say is a better option for locking in and having good stability when bombing hills? Og Classics or Conical Fulls? Sorry to be so annoying about this.Expand QuoteAight gods Im stuck in a decision. Im rocking the Tablets right now and they are getting really worn down. I fucking love these love the lock-in for transition skating and love the fact that the slide is so controlled. Was wondering is there much of a difference between the Tablets and the Radial and Conical Full shapes? Was just seeing some really cool options in those two shapes that are tempting me to change.[close]Expand QuoteHi, there! I read great reviews of the F4 here. I've never tried it before but now my shop got some wheels. The options are kind of limited and i am in between tablets 52 99 and classics 54 99. I skate only street and don't know what would be best. They also have conicals full 52 but in the 101. Can you give any suggestions what would feel better on the asphalt and would last longer? Greetings![close]
Tablets are a very skinny wheel with a very sharp edge, so will lock in more and have a lot more truck contact.
Conical full are a very wide wheel, so less truck width between wheels, with a slightly rounded edge but still lock in.
Radials are a medium width wheel, so pretty much in between the first two, with a wide surface area but still a moderately rounded edge, so about the medium ground.
Just for comparison, Classics are a medium width wheel across the widest point around the bearing seat, with a very rounded edge and minimal surface contact.
Some people say rounder wheels are easier to slide, flip and wear more evenly, but others I know prefer the wider profiles and sharper edges to lock in on rails and ledges more than anything else.
With regard to 99 or 101, I feel like 99s are always a more well balanced and an all rounder for duro than 101, especially if you are going to skate rougher surfaces, vs 101 on smoother faster surfaces.
@El Freegano I would be taking the 54mm classic 99s as they are a bit bigger so will last longer and skate more easily on rough roads, but that is just me.
The choice is yours...
@Mbrimson88 Thanks dude! After years of skating Classic shapes the wider wheels with sharper edges are my new drug. Which would you say is a better option for locking in and having good stability when bombing hills? Og Classics or Conical Fulls? Sorry to be so annoying about this.
mbrimson88 ive suggested this before but a youtube channel with this kind of nerdery would be up my alley. Ben Degros needs competition.Couldn't agree more.
Nice that's my pic and I'm riding those 56 classic fulls now and really like them.
Comparing them to the 56mm radials I had before, these are similar but don't lock in as well of course. I think the radial is the best all-around shape spitfire makes. If you want more lock in, go for conicals. If you want less, go for classics. Both classic and conical are offered in full varities if you want a wider wheel, but classic fulls are rarely produced.
Couldn't agree more.Expand Quotembrimson88 ive suggested this before but a youtube channel with this kind of nerdery would be up my alley. Ben Degros needs competition.[close]
But to not lose before starting you need to say ASPHALT like him.
what exactly is the difference between conical and og classic? is it basically double conical vs single conical?
^That's some good info right there. Thanks for posting it.
After trying several different shapes and sizes of the Formula Four, I'm enjoying the 54mm Classic 99 duro the most. They feel like a smaller wheel with the pop of a bigger wheel. They are lightweight for the size but still heavier than a 52mm.
The narrow contact patch makes the wheels responsive during slides and helps turning even with tight trucks. But as the contact patch wears down, it seems like it will get bigger because of the shape.
Does anyone have a picture of their F4 classics worn down a bunch into a small, wide wheel?
^That's some good info right there. Thanks for posting it.
After trying several different shapes and sizes of the Formula Four, I'm enjoying the 54mm Classic 99 duro the most. They feel like a smaller wheel with the pop of a bigger wheel. They are lightweight for the size but still heavier than a 52mm.
The narrow contact patch makes the wheels responsive during slides and helps turning even with tight trucks. But as the contact patch wears down, it seems like it will get bigger because of the shape.
Does anyone have a picture of their F4 classics worn down a bunch into a small, wide wheel?
Damn, all these pics make me want to ride my F4 classics until they're worn down that much.
What is that measuring tool called in that first picture?
And if you want to go the extra nerd mile get a digital one.Expand QuoteDamn, all these pics make me want to ride my F4 classics until they're worn down that much.
What is that measuring tool called in that first picture?[close]
calipers
Im looking to size down for my next set, found the radial slims but unfortunately they were 101a. I like how the 99s are still manageable on asphalt and think id like to stay with that. Anyone went from 99s to 101 and stayed?
I wrote down the dimensions of the wheels the shop have and they're pretty similar. Anyone know if ones is lighter than the other?
radial slims 52mm W29.5 18
conical 52mm W31.5 19.5
OG classic 52mm W31 21.5
Really wanna try these 97a Conicals... waiting for stock to hit UK again, see how they roll vs. Keyframes (which I love but can stick on ledges/board slides if you’re not a bit careful)
Im looking to size down for my next set, found the radial slims but unfortunately they were 101a. I like how the 99s are still manageable on asphalt and think id like to stay with that. Anyone went from 99s to 101 and stayed?
I wrote down the dimensions of the wheels the shop have and they're pretty similar. Anyone know if ones is lighter than the other?
radial slims 52mm W29.5 18
conical 52mm W31.5 19.5
OG classic 52mm W31 21.5
Here’s a high res scan of the latest leaflet including OG Classics and illustrations showing the cut outs / inner shape:
Expand QuoteHere’s a high res scan of the latest leaflet including OG Classics and illustrations showing the cut outs / inner shape:[close]
Sure is HI res!!!
That is good though, as I would often struggle to see the small details on the card in person (so took pics of it to zoom in on) and although others have posted the card before, to have a super hi res version is definitely good to see very easily.
Same here, og classics sporting the classic swirl graphic which is way cooler if u ask me. I tvink it was @mbrimson that explained that the only diffrence is the sidewalls of the wheels
i feel like i will never truly understand the difference between OG classics and conicals but that's okay.
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Classics are like that hot curvy chick that’s also cool as fuck and is down for anything.
Conicals are like that squared hip big girl thats always down to eat Korean bbq for 2 hours+ and is an aggressive power bottom.
you have my nomination to do the rest of the shapesExpand Quotei feel like i will never truly understand the difference between OG classics and conicals but that's okay.[close]
Classics are like that hot curvy chick that’s also cool as fuck and is down for anything.
Conicals are like that squared hip big girl thats always down to eat Korean bbq for 2 hours+ and is an aggressive power bottom.
you have my nomination to do the rest of the shapesExpand QuoteExpand Quotei feel like i will never truly understand the difference between OG classics and conicals but that's okay.[close]
Classics are like that hot curvy chick that’s also cool as fuck and is down for anything.
Conicals are like that squared hip big girl thats always down to eat Korean bbq for 2 hours+ and is an aggressive power bottom.[close]
what type of woman is a conical full?
i feel like i will never truly understand the difference between OG classics and conicals but that's okay.
Spitfire lists a 55mm tablet on that chart, but can anyone confirm that they actually exist? Google search will turn up results with retailers that have them listed but always out of stock. I'm beginning to think it's a conspiracy.
Spitfire lists a 55mm tablet on that chart, but can anyone confirm that they actually exist? Google search will turn up results with retailers that have them listed but always out of stock. I'm beginning to think it's a conspiracy.
Oh yeah I forgot about his pro model tablets. I think the graphics throw me off, when I think tablets I'm always just thinking of the blue or red band. Don't mind me, conspiracy short-lived.Expand QuoteSpitfire lists a 55mm tablet on that chart, but can anyone confirm that they actually exist? Google search will turn up results with retailers that have them listed but always out of stock. I'm beginning to think it's a conspiracy.[close]
I have seen Cardiel 55mm Tablets IRL. I also think someone here posted them (the Cards 55s) on a board in either the setup or 9"+ thread.
Pretty sure the catalog is supposed to be what's being offered this season, not a bunch of random numbers. That's why the small wheels you mentioned aren't included.Expand QuoteSpitfire lists a 55mm tablet on that chart, but can anyone confirm that they actually exist? Google search will turn up results with retailers that have them listed but always out of stock. I'm beginning to think it's a conspiracy.[close]
The chart has plenty of wheels that are no longer offered (or possibly never made) and it is also missing specs for wheels that they did make (51mm radials, 50mm tablets and other lil smokies).
Even their spring catalog on their website has wheels listed that I doubt they've made in the past year.
Pretty sure the catalog is supposed to be what's being offered this season, not a bunch of random numbers. That's why the small wheels you mentioned aren't included.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteSpitfire lists a 55mm tablet on that chart, but can anyone confirm that they actually exist? Google search will turn up results with retailers that have them listed but always out of stock. I'm beginning to think it's a conspiracy.[close]
The chart has plenty of wheels that are no longer offered (or possibly never made) and it is also missing specs for wheels that they did make (51mm radials, 50mm tablets and other lil smokies).
Even their spring catalog on their website has wheels listed that I doubt they've made in the past year.[close]
Expand QuoteReally wanna try these 97a Conicals... waiting for stock to hit UK again, see how they roll vs. Keyframes (which I love but can stick on ledges/board slides if you’re not a bit careful)[close]
I am *loving* the 97’s. Been to most rough spots where I’d have only used my crust board (Keyframes) before (and 99s were only negligibly better than 101 still basically a stop dead and die job.... )and they have rolled through it all... bit of a risk but but very pleasantly surprised!!
I might still yet find a spot that I need proper soft softies on but so far I only sentimentally miss those OJs :'(
Spitfire lists a 55mm tablet on that chart, but can anyone confirm that they actually exist? Google search will turn up results with retailers that have them listed but always out of stock. I'm beginning to think it's a conspiracy.I had them on 99, classic F4 white
Spitfire lists a 55mm tablet on that chart, but can anyone confirm that they actually exist? Google search will turn up results with retailers that have them listed but always out of stock. I'm beginning to think it's a conspiracy.got some 55 mm tablets 99 at uprise last year. saw a set at my local a few months back as well.
Expand Quotei feel like i will never truly understand the difference between OG classics and conicals but that's okay.[close]
I don’t understand either. Based on a few months of research I feel like the OG classics are basically a wider, side-cut tablet with a pretty squared off edge. The conical fulls are essentially the same width but slightly more rounded on the edges and a little less side-cut so slightly heavier feeling.
Expand QuotePretty sure the catalog is supposed to be what's being offered this season, not a bunch of random numbers. That's why the small wheels you mentioned aren't included.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteSpitfire lists a 55mm tablet on that chart, but can anyone confirm that they actually exist? Google search will turn up results with retailers that have them listed but always out of stock. I'm beginning to think it's a conspiracy.[close]
The chart has plenty of wheels that are no longer offered (or possibly never made) and it is also missing specs for wheels that they did make (51mm radials, 50mm tablets and other lil smokies).
Even their spring catalog on their website has wheels listed that I doubt they've made in the past year.[close][close]
Sorry that I didn't make my post clear, they were supposed to be 2 different points. The chart that's included with purchased wheels don't have specs for all the wheels they make. The catalog on their website has wheels listed that they don't sell.
Alright, impulse-bought a set of F4 56mm Conical Fulls. Been extremely happy with my switch to F4 54mm Tablets from Bones SPF as mentioned elsewhere in this thread. However, I have this hunch that I’ll like super wide F4s even more. It’s been ages since I used a wheel larger than 54mm so that will be interesting, too.
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First session with these new wheels was interesting. As with my Tablets before, I am impressed with how good 99A F4s feel right from the start. They grip and slide in a controlled way even before they get a bit of a texture.
Even though my setup felt quite different with the 56mm Conical Fulls at first (Tablets were down to barely 52mm), I didn't have much trouble getting a good pop out of it. The increased angle might even work in my favor.
Speed and control with these large, wide wheels are insane. Like riding on a rail track, but with the ability to break out and adjust when needed. If that makes sense. The difference on rough ground is astonishing.
Feels like my setup (Gonz 9.81, 169 Indys) has really come together with these wheels, however I am not sure if I can really get myself to flip it. The weight and size has gotten to a point where it's just really painful to miss a flick and hit your ankles.
The summer drop of Spitfire wheels are on the website. There aren't any 97du on there?! :'(
https://www.spitfirewheels.com/
Expand QuoteThe summer drop of Spitfire wheels are on the website. There aren't any 97du on there?! :'(
https://www.spitfirewheels.com/[close]
Whaaaaa?
What the fuck
I love mine. Only ever see everyone else say the same.
Expand QuoteThe summer drop of Spitfire wheels are on the website. There aren't any 97du on there?! :'(
https://www.spitfirewheels.com/[close]
Whaaaaa?
What the fuck
I love mine. Only ever see everyone else say the same.
Yes there are...Expand QuoteExpand QuoteThe summer drop of Spitfire wheels are on the website. There aren't any 97du on there?! :'(
https://www.spitfirewheels.com/[close]
Whaaaaa?
What the fuck
I love mine. Only ever see everyone else say the same.[close]
Looks like production could have been coming back to almost normal (before urethane shortages cause production issues again, that is).
Interested to see how many of these Radials in 54 or 56mm make it to places too, seeing as some people really liked them or wanted more.
Expand QuoteYes there are...Expand QuoteExpand QuoteThe summer drop of Spitfire wheels are on the website. There aren't any 97du on there?! :'(
https://www.spitfirewheels.com/[close]
Whaaaaa?
What the fuck
I love mine. Only ever see everyone else say the same.[close][close]
Oops, you're right. I have no clue how I missed that. Really glad they're still around.
They have the full lines of all sizes of the current wheels showing in this one, but as said before, I haven't seen anything over about 56mm apart from the F4 OG 58 and the 97 CF 58 in the last year.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteYes there are...Expand QuoteExpand QuoteThe summer drop of Spitfire wheels are on the website. There aren't any 97du on there?! :'(
https://www.spitfirewheels.com/[close]
Whaaaaa?
What the fuck
I love mine. Only ever see everyone else say the same.[close][close]
Oops, you're right. I have no clue how I missed that. Really glad they're still around.[close]
You're right, they're hard to find but a google search came up with these. Although shipping to Australia might be rough.
For people in EU, or maybe Germany at least, this place seems to have a lot of wheels...
https://www.instagram.com/p/CQq2R13lXjR/
Damn I want those 48mm lil smokies in that first picture! I have some 50mm ones but I didn't know they made them as small as 48mm.
I'm interested in trying those 56mm Radials. Anyone have any commentary on the difference in riding experience from Conical Fulls?
I'm interested in trying those 56mm Radials. Anyone have any commentary on the difference in riding experience from Conical Fulls?
Looks like production could have been coming back to almost normal (before urethane shortages cause production issues again, that is).At the end Radials are like Classics full rightm
Interested to see how many of these Radials in 54 or 56mm make it to places too, seeing as some people really liked them or wanted more.
(https://www.spitfirewheels.com/summer21/sf-sm21-radials.jpg)
At the end Radials are like Classics full right
Bummer there aren't Radial Slims in the catalog, those are my favorite shape. They make Classics feel chunky by comparison.
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Damn I want those 48mm lil smokies in that first picture! I have some 50mm ones but I didn't know they made them as small as 48mm.[close]
They are almost the little hidden gems of Spitfire - not in catalogs, not listed anywhere other than shops, supposed to be a pricepoint wheel (although some shops still have them at premium prices) but also come in various shapes too, eg classic, tablet, conical full, etc mostly 50 but also 48mm.
Expand QuoteBummer there aren't Radial Slims in the catalog, those are my favorite shape. They make Classics feel chunky by comparison.[close]
Same. After riding tablets (which I've determined I don't like at all for curbs), I switched back to radial slims. Easily the most underrated wheel in the line-up; I hope it being MIA from the catalog doesn't mean it's going away/replaced by the Tablets.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteBummer there aren't Radial Slims in the catalog, those are my favorite shape. They make Classics feel chunky by comparison.[close]
Same. After riding tablets (which I've determined I don't like at all for curbs), I switched back to radial slims. Easily the most underrated wheel in the line-up; I hope it being MIA from the catalog doesn't mean it's going away/replaced by the Tablets.[close]
Facts. Radial slims >>>>>>> tablets by a landslide
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteBummer there aren't Radial Slims in the catalog, those are my favorite shape. They make Classics feel chunky by comparison.[close]
Same. After riding tablets (which I've determined I don't like at all for curbs), I switched back to radial slims. Easily the most underrated wheel in the line-up; I hope it being MIA from the catalog doesn't mean it's going away/replaced by the Tablets.[close]
Facts. Radial slims >>>>>>> tablets by a landslide[close]
Wish they did more limited run pro graphics on the Radial Slims, this shape never gets the pro colorway love.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteBummer there aren't Radial Slims in the catalog, those are my favorite shape. They make Classics feel chunky by comparison.[close]
Same. After riding tablets (which I've determined I don't like at all for curbs), I switched back to radial slims. Easily the most underrated wheel in the line-up; I hope it being MIA from the catalog doesn't mean it's going away/replaced by the Tablets.[close]
Facts. Radial slims >>>>>>> tablets by a landslide
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteBummer there aren't Radial Slims in the catalog, those are my favorite shape. They make Classics feel chunky by comparison.[close]
Same. After riding tablets (which I've determined I don't like at all for curbs), I switched back to radial slims. Easily the most underrated wheel in the line-up; I hope it being MIA from the catalog doesn't mean it's going away/replaced by the Tablets.[close]
Facts. Radial slims >>>>>>> tablets by a landslide[close]
I'm intrigued. What makes them so good.?
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteBummer there aren't Radial Slims in the catalog, those are my favorite shape. They make Classics feel chunky by comparison.[close]
Same. After riding tablets (which I've determined I don't like at all for curbs), I switched back to radial slims. Easily the most underrated wheel in the line-up; I hope it being MIA from the catalog doesn't mean it's going away/replaced by the Tablets.[close]
Facts. Radial slims >>>>>>> tablets by a landslide[close]
I'm intrigued. What makes them so good.?
RIP classic full. I think it's a bit of self fulfilling prophecy though; more people would probably buy classic fulls if the graphic on big heads wasn't so dog shit.
It's a psychological thing, like getting thrown off because you know your socks are mismatched. Even if no one sees them, and the graphic is completely worn off, I'll know they looked like ass when I bought them and will resent them. This is why I will never buy STFs; the v4 is a great shape but the highlighter green patterns are so putrid my vibe will be wrong for as long as I'm riding them.Expand QuoteRIP classic full. I think it's a bit of self fulfilling prophecy though; more people would probably buy classic fulls if the graphic on big heads wasn't so dog shit.[close]
Do y’all really care about graphics? Mine are gone in less than a week.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteBummer there aren't Radial Slims in the catalog, those are my favorite shape. They make Classics feel chunky by comparison.[close]
Same. After riding tablets (which I've determined I don't like at all for curbs), I switched back to radial slims. Easily the most underrated wheel in the line-up; I hope it being MIA from the catalog doesn't mean it's going away/replaced by the Tablets.[close]
Facts. Radial slims >>>>>>> tablets by a landslide[close]
Wish they did more limited run pro graphics on the Radial Slims, this shape never gets the pro colorway love.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteBummer there aren't Radial Slims in the catalog, those are my favorite shape. They make Classics feel chunky by comparison.[close]
Same. After riding tablets (which I've determined I don't like at all for curbs), I switched back to radial slims. Easily the most underrated wheel in the line-up; I hope it being MIA from the catalog doesn't mean it's going away/replaced by the Tablets.[close]
Facts. Radial slims >>>>>>> tablets by a landslide[close]
I'm intrigued. What makes them so good.?[close]
The sharp sides on the tablets (and lock-ins) made them grind kind of weird, like it was slowing it down instead of rolling along. The tablets I've tried also made shuvs and some flip tricks behave different as well.
I've only tried Radial slims in 51mm (both 99du and 101du) and it made my board feel like some sort of dead toy but they grinded and slid well. Maybe it was that particular deck or my truck setup, I might try them again in the future with a different setup.
I did really, really enjoy my set of 51mm Radials 99du (not slims) but they were only offered in green for the Skate Like a Girl collab.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteBummer there aren't Radial Slims in the catalog, those are my favorite shape. They make Classics feel chunky by comparison.[close]
Same. After riding tablets (which I've determined I don't like at all for curbs), I switched back to radial slims. Easily the most underrated wheel in the line-up; I hope it being MIA from the catalog doesn't mean it's going away/replaced by the Tablets.[close]
Facts. Radial slims >>>>>>> tablets by a landslide[close]
I'm intrigued. What makes them so good.?[close]
Unless you really really need that maximum immediate riding surface on the thinnest wheel, radial slims pretty much do everything tablets do but better.
Same width, still a good amount of riding surface (more than classics), lock in pretty much just as good as they're still a square ish wheel (I skate round rails a good amount and the lock in difference is very minimal). But because they taper a teeny bit and have a slight sidecut, they feel a little more nimble, less clunky and slappy better.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteBummer there aren't Radial Slims in the catalog, those are my favorite shape. They make Classics feel chunky by comparison.[close]
Same. After riding tablets (which I've determined I don't like at all for curbs), I switched back to radial slims. Easily the most underrated wheel in the line-up; I hope it being MIA from the catalog doesn't mean it's going away/replaced by the Tablets.[close]
Facts. Radial slims >>>>>>> tablets by a landslide[close]
Wish they did more limited run pro graphics on the Radial Slims, this shape never gets the pro colorway love.[close]
I know this has been posted before, but the Daan V L wheel was the last one I recall, maybe the only one of the 99 duro radial slim pro wheel. I think there were others with coloured options and 101 but I tend not to pay so much attention to them.
As for these ones, I actually had a very lightly used set come through my hands and they were a great little wheel to skate, before they went to someone else.
(https://cdn3.volusion.com/mgfmp.dmumc/v/vspfiles/photos/S1-21110110DA52-3.jpg)
I am not such a big fan of graphics on wheels (and usually machine them off before I skate them) but that graphic is pretty cool and I would be lying if I said I have never bought wheels just for the graphic alone.
(https://www.nativeskatestore.co.uk/images/daan-side-show-radial-slims-99d-formula-four-skateboard-wheels-52mm-p34039-84549_zoom.jpg)
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteBummer there aren't Radial Slims in the catalog, those are my favorite shape. They make Classics feel chunky by comparison.[close]
Same. After riding tablets (which I've determined I don't like at all for curbs), I switched back to radial slims. Easily the most underrated wheel in the line-up; I hope it being MIA from the catalog doesn't mean it's going away/replaced by the Tablets.[close]
Facts. Radial slims >>>>>>> tablets by a landslide[close]
I'm intrigued. What makes them so good.?[close]
Unless you really really need that maximum immediate riding surface on the thinnest wheel, radial slims pretty much do everything tablets do but better.
Same width, still a good amount of riding surface (more than classics), lock in pretty much just as good as they're still a square ish wheel (I skate round rails a good amount and the lock in difference is very minimal). But because they taper a teeny bit and have a slight sidecut, they feel a little more nimble, less clunky and slappy better.
I thought it was just me, the tablets made everything but ledge skating and straight ollies feel off
Clunky is the right way to describe the tablets, especially the taller you go.
Anyone know how the OG classics compare to radial slims?
Short answer: No, unless you like flat spots.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteBummer there aren't Radial Slims in the catalog, those are my favorite shape. They make Classics feel chunky by comparison.[close]
Same. After riding tablets (which I've determined I don't like at all for curbs), I switched back to radial slims. Easily the most underrated wheel in the line-up; I hope it being MIA from the catalog doesn't mean it's going away/replaced by the Tablets.[close]
Facts. Radial slims >>>>>>> tablets by a landslide[close]
Wish they did more limited run pro graphics on the Radial Slims, this shape never gets the pro colorway love.[close]
I know this has been posted before, but the Daan V L wheel was the last one I recall, maybe the only one of the 99 duro radial slim pro wheel. I think there were others with coloured options and 101 but I tend not to pay so much attention to them.
As for these ones, I actually had a very lightly used set come through my hands and they were a great little wheel to skate, before they went to someone else.
(https://cdn3.volusion.com/mgfmp.dmumc/v/vspfiles/photos/S1-21110110DA52-3.jpg)
I am not such a big fan of graphics on wheels (and usually machine them off before I skate them) but that graphic is pretty cool and I would be lying if I said I have never bought wheels just for the graphic alone.
(https://www.nativeskatestore.co.uk/images/daan-side-show-radial-slims-99d-formula-four-skateboard-wheels-52mm-p34039-84549_zoom.jpg)[close]
This graphic is too nice. Reminds me somewhat of a Zoo York board that I had: I wanna say Jeff Pang, tiger balm. Venture mids (at least I think they made a mid truck somewhere in the 95-97 ish years).
As to f4s: fave wheels. I tried to do the conical full thing, and just never like them. I pretty much just like the classic shape. I liked the Mike Anderson sfw wheel tho, and that was chunkier….whatever. Pretty big fan of the 97s I have, hopefully they make them smaller.
Anyone have some pros and cons to the classic formula vs the f4s? Meaning, is there any pros to the classic formula?
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I thought it was just me, the tablets made everything but ledge skating and straight ollies feel off
Clunky is the right way to describe the tablets, especially the taller you go.
Anyone know how the OG classics compare to radial slims?[close]
I went and dug them out and have all of them now sitting on my desk to compare - Tablets, OG Classics, Radial slims and Conical wheels.
Why Conicals? Well just to compare all of them and I would almost say the normal Conical wheels are the closest to Radial slims for the side profile and overall size, width and riding surface, with OG Classics closer to Tablets in the side profile, even though the OG cut in and Tablets do not.
As for the specs, diameter / width / riding surface as follows:
Radial slim .... 52 / 30 / 18.5
Conical .... 52 / 31.5 / 19.5
Tablets ... 52 / 29 / 20
OG Classics .. 52 / 31 / 21.5
Classics ... 52 / 32 / 15.5
EDIT: I know I often do things that others might think crazy, including taking an angle grinder to wheels to shape them into slightly rounder wheels (usually from old Conical Full wheels) but when I am looking at the Conical wheels, if you took a touch off each side at the widest point they would pretty much be Radial slims, but I probably would not recommend doing this unless you are fairly confident of what you are doing.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CNzIL65lTst/
Anyone have some pros and cons to the classic formula vs the f4s? Meaning, is there any pros to the classic formula?
Has anyone seen Radials in 99A and 52mm being available anywhere?
Expand QuoteHas anyone seen Radials in 99A and 52mm being available anywhere?[close]
https://www.vamos-skateshop.com/p/spitfire-f4-embers-52mm-radial-black-99a
These were the only one I could find. I understand if you don't feel like black wheels.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteHas anyone seen Radials in 99A and 52mm being available anywhere?[close]
https://www.vamos-skateshop.com/p/spitfire-f4-embers-52mm-radial-black-99a
These were the only one I could find. I understand if you don't feel like black wheels.[close]
Thanks, frankly I just look past colored wheels. I have considered the 54mm pink ones to switch things up but I’d probably regret it.
Anyone skated the 97d? How are they?
Anyone skated the 97d? How are they?
Expand QuoteAnyone skated the 97d? How are they?[close]
I tried a set of 97a/53mm Classics. They felt slow, and waxy. Didn't slide as well. A tad bit smoother on crust, but at least to me, that did not offset the other drawbacks enough to run them on the regular.
Expand QuoteAnyone skated the 97d? How are they?[close]
I tried a set of 97a/53mm Classics. They felt slow, and waxy. Didn't slide as well. A tad bit smoother on crust, but at least to me, that did not offset the other drawbacks enough to run them on the regular.
Expand QuoteAnyone skated the 97d? How are they?[close]
If you mean the F4 97a wheels, I can’t praise them enough. IMO a perfect wheel for anyone skating crusty spots and streets, basically for people not skating new skateparks and glass-smooth Southern California/Arizona concrete. I tried to go back the exact same wheel in 101a and it rattled my teeth loose.
They are indeed slightly slower and they skid differently than harder wheels, but not better or worse. They are also more porous and gold humidity better, so if you leave them in a hot car, they’ll feel like shit for a minute until they dry out. Still though, I find this all worth it for a wheel that can much more easily roll over PNW crust.
Anyone skated the 97d? How are they?search 97a there is a ton of feedback. very good feedback
current on preowned 58mm (now54-53) radial fulls. really love how these slide. but now they’re too small for my liking. would 58mm og classics be a good alternative?
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteBummer there aren't Radial Slims in the catalog, those are my favorite shape. They make Classics feel chunky by comparison.[close]
Same. After riding tablets (which I've determined I don't like at all for curbs), I switched back to radial slims. Easily the most underrated wheel in the line-up; I hope it being MIA from the catalog doesn't mean it's going away/replaced by the Tablets.[close]
Facts. Radial slims >>>>>>> tablets by a landslide
Noticed the Classic Full shape has returned-
(https://www.spitfirewheels.com/summer21/sf-sm21-repeaters-capsule.jpg)
Still no Radial Slims.
Noticed the Classic Full shape has returned-
(https://www.spitfirewheels.com/summer21/sf-sm21-repeaters-capsule.jpg)
Noticed the Classic Full shape has returned-
(https://www.spitfirewheels.com/summer21/sf-sm21-repeaters-capsule.jpg)
Still no Radial Slims.
Are classic fulls pretty much same as radials? They have very similar sizing but classics have narrower riding surface.
I've got some originally 55mm F4 Conical Full 99duro. I've had them on my set up since October, so around 10 months at this point. I'm kind of amazed. The wheels are still solid almost a year later and I've been regularly skating. Sure, they're like a slightly squarer 51-52 (I'm guessing. Haven't measured) at this point so I do feel like I'm going slower or need to push slightly more for speed on some terrain.
It reminded me how long wheels can actually last. I was going through wheels much faster over a year ago because I was finding my niche between Bones STF and eventually trying F4s. I'll take a photo of my wheels and add it in here for reference later.
In summary, I may stick with F4 from here on out (I already bought 2-3 spare pairs earlier this year so methinks I like them haha)
slap pals, think i may have got a defective wheel or just some bad luck. one out of set of four of my 97du formula 4’s has wigged out on me. this is after 3 maybe 4 times using them maximum, as you can see from the other three wheels theyve barely broken in. the surface of the wheel (other than the cracking) is what id describe as dusty/powderyLooks like they ran out of their secret congealant, cum from a hellride skater.
(https://i.ibb.co/0Gnt8dg/3-EC96-F75-E0-FA-4-D3-D-B18-E-AA6-E4-EC03800.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/y4rjSp8/9072-EE59-D0-B9-4-ED0-A3-DE-DDE97-F294196.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/cyNV2S6/769-C1-F28-D4-E7-4-A1-A-9-FE9-D810-A0-CE7-A1-D.jpg)
Expand Quoteslap pals, think i may have got a defective wheel or just some bad luck. one out of set of four of my 97du formula 4’s has wigged out on me. this is after 3 maybe 4 times using them maximum, as you can see from the other three wheels theyve barely broken in. the surface of the wheel (other than the cracking) is what id describe as dusty/powdery
Looks like they ran out of their secret congealant, cum from a hellride skater.
Of course hellride skaters have huge balls, and Spitfire has a special facility for milking these glands. Usually skaters visit for a week or so to get milked, usually right after a hellride.
But with hellride becoming more and more scare, I’m afraid that we’ll see more QC isdues, or they might have to change their formula to F5, which is in its experimental stage, and requires milking extreme pogostick athletes.
(https://i.ibb.co/0Gnt8dg/3-EC96-F75-E0-FA-4-D3-D-B18-E-AA6-E4-EC03800.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/y4rjSp8/9072-EE59-D0-B9-4-ED0-A3-DE-DDE97-F294196.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/cyNV2S6/769-C1-F28-D4-E7-4-A1-A-9-FE9-D810-A0-CE7-A1-D.jpg)[close]
slap pals, think i may have got a defective wheel or just some bad luck. one out of set of four of my 97du formula 4’s has wigged out on me. this is after 3 maybe 4 times using them maximum, as you can see from the other three wheels theyve barely broken in. the surface of the wheel (other than the cracking) is what id describe as dusty/powdery
Oh shit, I have a set of this exact wheel sitting on my shelf for winter use after trying it one time.
I asked Jim for venture style bushings when mine blew out and I couldn't find the same shaped bushings as the stock. Jim sent me a whole new pair, 4 dlx bushings, and a venture mug. DLX will get your back on your wheel for sure.
I’ve gotten a response every time I’ve emailed the generic help email on any DLX site. Same dude answered for Thunder and Venture. In each case they sent me more bushings than I’ll ever need and a fat grip of stickers
I’ve just come off a set of radial 53s, onto conical fulls. I find the radials a healthy point between boxy conical wheels and the over round classics
Looks like they ran out of their secret congealant, cum from a hellride skater.Expand Quoteslap pals, think i may have got a defective wheel or just some bad luck. one out of set of four of my 97du formula 4’s has wigged out on me. this is after 3 maybe 4 times using them maximum, as you can see from the other three wheels theyve barely broken in. the surface of the wheel (other than the cracking) is what id describe as dusty/powdery
(https://i.ibb.co/0Gnt8dg/3-EC96-F75-E0-FA-4-D3-D-B18-E-AA6-E4-EC03800.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/y4rjSp8/9072-EE59-D0-B9-4-ED0-A3-DE-DDE97-F294196.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/cyNV2S6/769-C1-F28-D4-E7-4-A1-A-9-FE9-D810-A0-CE7-A1-D.jpg)[close]
Of course hellride skaters have abnormally huge balls, and Spitfire has a special facility for milking these glands. Usually skaters visit for a week or so to get milked, usually right after a hellride. Marketing plays into this as well, and until now thru have had a more-or-less steady supply.
But with hellride becoming more and more scarce with the younger generation (SLAP’s cheerful mocking of hellride is well known at Spitfire), I’m afraid that we’ll see more QC issues like sugary wheels, or they might have to change their formula to F5, which is in its experimental stage, and requires milking extreme pogostick athletes.
Expand QuoteI’ve just come off a set of radial 53s, onto conical fulls. I find the radials a healthy point between boxy conical wheels and the over round classics[close]
Nice, would like preferred Radial Slims but those are hard to come by these days. I'm riding some skinny Autobahn Dual Durometers, even though they weigh the same as Classics they feel much more nimble. Must be the hard plastic core adding weight.
53mm Classics - 53 x 33 x 16
53mm Radials - 53 x 33 x 19.5
53mm Radial Slims - 53 x 30.5 x 19
53mm Conical Full - 53 x 33.5 x 21.5
So, I’ve fallen in love with my conical full’s over the last year or two.. shop got them in, made the switch from OJ & couldn’t get enough of the speed and control, originally had 101’s then later switched down to some 99’s, I love and mainly skate transition but have recently wanted to get back into skating more flat ground & have been wanting to try some big heads 55mm, my one homie mentioned going to flat conical & a smaller size too but I’m not sure……So, what’s the best wheel for skating transition, crusty ass streets & more tech???
Expand QuoteSo, I’ve fallen in love with my conical full’s over the last year or two.. shop got them in, made the switch from OJ & couldn’t get enough of the speed and control, originally had 101’s then later switched down to some 99’s, I love and mainly skate transition but have recently wanted to get back into skating more flat ground & have been wanting to try some big heads 55mm, my one homie mentioned going to flat conical & a smaller size too but I’m not sure……So, what’s the best wheel for skating transition, crusty ass streets & more tech???[close]
I skate mostly street and always use conical full 55s. If I skate transition it’s basically just surfing the bowl or very basic mini ramp. But I like the conical fills for ledge dancing and manual finagling, especially on rougher ground. So in my opinion you may already be good to go.
So, I’ve fallen in love with my conical full’s over the last year or two.. shop got them in, made the switch from OJ & couldn’t get enough of the speed and control, originally had 101’s then later switched down to some 99’s, I love and mainly skate transition but have recently wanted to get back into skating more flat ground & have been wanting to try some big heads 55mm, my one homie mentioned going to flat conical & a smaller size too but I’m not sure……So, what’s the best wheel for skating transition, crusty ass streets & more tech???
So, I’ve fallen in love with my conical full’s over the last year or two.. shop got them in, made the switch from OJ & couldn’t get enough of the speed and control, originally had 101’s then later switched down to some 99’s, I love and mainly skate transition but have recently wanted to get back into skating more flat ground & have been wanting to try some big heads 55mm, my one homie mentioned going to flat conical & a smaller size too but I’m not sure……So, what’s the best wheel for skating transition, crusty ass streets & more tech???
In the shapes department, squarer shapes like Conical Full and OG Classics with wider riding surface are good for crust, grip and locking in to things more, or to redefine, they will hold you onto an edge more so than rounder shapes. Classic / round shapes are easier to get on and off edges and coping, sometimes with people saying they cannot lock in as easily, or slip out a lot more than with them too, but I feel like Classics / rounder wheels make it easier to grind further on coping, but that is just me.
i’m not sure what you guys have been talking about in here as i don’t frequent this section of slap often, but if anyone’s been looking for 52-55 conical fulls, i came across this on ebay. i messaged the guy because i was curious about how legit these were, and he said that these are made in the same factory as spitfire, just no logos. https://www.ebay.com/itm/133612170680
see that’s what got me. the tread and the discoloration. in the first one i was like oh wow but then i slid through the pictures and that’s what lead me to ask the guy. i may get some just to see because they’re only $20 but i also don’t wanna be stuck with 101s if they suckExpand Quotei’m not sure what you guys have been talking about in here as i don’t frequent this section of slap often, but if anyone’s been looking for 52-55 conical fulls, i came across this on ebay. i messaged the guy because i was curious about how legit these were, and he said that these are made in the same factory as spitfire, just no logos. https://www.ebay.com/itm/133612170680[close]
Those wheels are treadded and aren't the right color. I kindly don't believe it.
edit: but if you do get a set, let us know how they are.
i’m not sure what you guys have been talking about in here as i don’t frequent this section of slap often, but if anyone’s been looking for 52-55 conical fulls, i came across this on ebay. i messaged the guy because i was curious about how legit these were, and he said that these are made in the same factory as spitfire, just no logos. https://www.ebay.com/itm/133612170680
glad you said this. thank youExpand Quotei’m not sure what you guys have been talking about in here as i don’t frequent this section of slap often, but if anyone’s been looking for 52-55 conical fulls, i came across this on ebay. i messaged the guy because i was curious about how legit these were, and he said that these are made in the same factory as spitfire, just no logos. https://www.ebay.com/itm/133612170680[close]
Totally NOT at all anything to do with Spitfire or DLXSF.COM product.
There is a counterfeit thread still floating around (not updated for a minute) but the number of people who don't have a shop or legitimate seller account trying to sell off things like that on ebay is at an all time high, many claiming something, or having the fake wheels and other products but no ties to the skateboard industry, a shop, etc.
Sure they might be ok wheels to skate, but claiming they are from certain same manufacturers is very much a flat out lie.
COUNTERFEIT SKATE GEAR THREAD
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=115386.0
glad you said this. thank youExpand QuoteExpand Quotei’m not sure what you guys have been talking about in here as i don’t frequent this section of slap often, but if anyone’s been looking for 52-55 conical fulls, i came across this on ebay. i messaged the guy because i was curious about how legit these were, and he said that these are made in the same factory as spitfire, just no logos. https://www.ebay.com/itm/133612170680[close]
Totally NOT at all anything to do with Spitfire or DLXSF.COM product.
There is a counterfeit thread still floating around (not updated for a minute) but the number of people who don't have a shop or legitimate seller account trying to sell off things like that on ebay is at an all time high, many claiming something, or having the fake wheels and other products but no ties to the skateboard industry, a shop, etc.
Sure they might be ok wheels to skate, but claiming they are from certain same manufacturers is very much a flat out lie.
COUNTERFEIT SKATE GEAR THREAD
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=115386.0[close]
i’m not sure what you guys have been talking about in here as i don’t frequent this section of slap often, but if anyone’s been looking for 52-55 conical fulls, i came across this on ebay. i messaged the guy because i was curious about how legit these were, and he said that these are made in the same factory as spitfire, just no logos. https://www.ebay.com/itm/133612170680
Expand Quotei’m not sure what you guys have been talking about in here as i don’t frequent this section of slap often, but if anyone’s been looking for 52-55 conical fulls, i came across this on ebay. i messaged the guy because i was curious about how legit these were, and he said that these are made in the same factory as spitfire, just no logos. https://www.ebay.com/itm/133612170680[close]
Absolutely not Spitfires, just cheap imported junk from a seller without scruples
in case anyone was curious, here’s the classic full measurements (bought a set of the 53mm today, noticed it wasn’t on the formula four page)
Anyone here have issues with F4 consistency?DLX has super good customer service and will replace those if you contact them. Use the Hit Us Up button on the homepage: https://www.dlxsf.com/
I put on my first pair of conical full 54mm. First of all they all had different size air bubbles in the core from the manufacturing. After I put on, only 2 of them spin straight, the other two look like they've been slightly malformed. Also, the graphics on one of them is printed crooked.
Maybe I'm just being picky here but I've had cheaper wheels with better quality control.
DLX has super good customer service and will replace those if you contact them. Use the Hit Us Up button on the homepage: https://www.dlxsf.com/Expand QuoteAnyone here have issues with F4 consistency?
I put on my first pair of conical full 54mm. First of all they all had different size air bubbles in the core from the manufacturing. After I put on, only 2 of them spin straight, the other two look like they've been slightly malformed. Also, the graphics on one of them is printed crooked.
Maybe I'm just being picky here but I've had cheaper wheels with better quality control.[close]
Anyone here have issues with F4 consistency?
I put on my first pair of conical full 54mm. First of all they all had different size air bubbles in the core from the manufacturing. After I put on, only 2 of them spin straight, the other two look like they've been slightly malformed. Also, the graphics on one of them is printed crooked.
Maybe I'm just being picky here but I've had cheaper wheels with better quality control.
Anyone here have issues with F4 consistency?they sent 2 sets of f4s with three 52mm wheels and one 54. funniest thing i’ve seen product wise in a while and ive seen the jeff dechesare pro model
I put on my first pair of conical full 54mm. First of all they all had different size air bubbles in the core from the manufacturing. After I put on, only 2 of them spin straight, the other two look like they've been slightly malformed. Also, the graphics on one of them is printed crooked.
Maybe I'm just being picky here but I've had cheaper wheels with better quality control.
Expand QuoteAnyone here have issues with F4 consistency?
I put on my first pair of conical full 54mm. First of all they all had different size air bubbles in the core from the manufacturing. After I put on, only 2 of them spin straight, the other two look like they've been slightly malformed. Also, the graphics on one of them is printed crooked.
Maybe I'm just being picky here but I've had cheaper wheels with better quality control.[close]
Also just checking where you got them from too.
Not a big deal, as I haven't seen many of those as fake wheels, but there are lots of others floating round.
I have had and seen some that do look unevenly made in manufacturing, but still rolled fine when I had them on the board. Anything like that is a valid claim, so as said above, hit them up and send pics, etc.
Expand Quotein case anyone was curious, here’s the classic full measurements (bought a set of the 53mm today, noticed it wasn’t on the formula four page)[close]
Thanks!
It is funny they have pulled almost all the info for the Classic Full, but even more funny they still haven't actually got the right measurements in there, especially for the bigger wheel sizes.
I think the 53mm was about right, but the 54 and up were wider overall that what is listed.
How were yours?
This was a post from back in June when I measured some of the sets I had:
Classic Full are a wider wheel overall, so add 1 to 2 mm to the middle width of classics, but yeah only 1 or 2 mm total width difference, to .5 mm difference between classic to radials.
I should take a pic of the Classic Full packaging, but they actually get all the measurements wrong.
Fixed the widths to be more accurate, although I think they were maybe .5 mm wider in the 56 and 58 mm sizes.
(https://i.ibb.co/v4cKzCy/Spitfire-classic-full-specs-1a.jpg) (https://ibb.co/HTKkgLw)
Couldn't resist and ordered 52mm Classic Fulls. I've really been enjoying the 52mm Classics lately and figured the extra width wouldn't hurt when I need a new set.
My set matches the measurements printed on the packaging as posted above (https://i.ibb.co/XJmwTJh/399-A0-C8-E-D853-43-CA-8-E9-C-9-E1-A3-ECCCA81.jpg). Perfectly, too. I've used a caliper. Here's a comparison shot with my worn-down 52mm Classics:
(https://i.ibb.co/8DydS7Z/IMG-0652.jpg)
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Couldn't resist and ordered 52mm Classic Fulls. I've really been enjoying the 52mm Classics lately and figured the extra width wouldn't hurt when I need a new set.
My set matches the measurements printed on the packaging as posted above (https://i.ibb.co/XJmwTJh/399-A0-C8-E-D853-43-CA-8-E9-C-9-E1-A3-ECCCA81.jpg). Perfectly, too. I've used a caliper. Here's a comparison shot with my worn-down 52mm Classics:
(https://i.ibb.co/8DydS7Z/IMG-0652.jpg)[close]
Did you have to order from outside of EU or did a local shop get them in?
I think the 54mm classic full is the one I would skate if I only had one wheel to choose from and skate from new.
The bigger classics are nice when they wear down a few mm, but most of the time it just doesn't work to get 56 or 58mm wheels and take the time to wear them down to between 52-54 mm.
Mine from the other day, now about 53mm.
(https://i.ibb.co/pRjh74d/Classic-Full-54mm.jpg) (https://ibb.co/txpLGYD)
Classic Fulls are available at several (mailorder) shops in Germany at the moment. They are called Repeaters and come in 52, 53, 54 mm:
https://no-comply.de/search?type=product&q=Repeaters
I don’t want to put risers on my street setup so riding anything above 54 mm is not really an option for me anyway, but I also really like small and light wheels on my street setup atm.
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Classic Fulls are available at several (mailorder) shops in Germany at the moment. They are called Repeaters and come in 52, 53, 54 mm:
https://no-comply.de/search?type=product&q=Repeaters
I don’t want to put risers on my street setup so riding anything above 54 mm is not really an option for me anyway, but I also really like small and light wheels on my street setup atm.[close]
Glad there are some available over there, as others had been saying there were minimal F4s around that they could find.
Might be limited to some places or styles though, but that shop seems to have a good range, sizes, styles, etc.
Are the 97a done? Seem to have come and gone.
97s are pretty available. I'm on some right now and def prefer 99s. The softer ride is really only worth it either on really rough or very slippery spots. Same with the 101s. Worth trying but were only useful trying to slide the shit out of ledge and curb tricks. 99s are really the all-round sweet spot.
Expand Quote97s are pretty available. I'm on some right now and def prefer 99s. The softer ride is really only worth it either on really rough or very slippery spots. Same with the 101s. Worth trying but were only useful trying to slide the shit out of ledge and curb tricks. 99s are really the all-round sweet spot.[close]
I prefer 97a on my curb/flat ground board as my local curb spot can be a touch crusty
Are the 97a done? Seem to have come and gone.
I wish they did those in more shapes like the Conical, Tablet or Radial Slim. The last of which I'm worried will never return to production.
Are the 97a done? Seem to have come and gone.
Im on 97 54mm conical fulls and i honestly can't tell the difference between the 99 and these. Maybe I just forgot what the 99's felt like...
Not yet, I'll man up and DM them now.
Expand QuoteNot yet, I'll man up and DM them now.[close]
Any reply yet?
Yes I know I am being too keen!
My knees and legs are way less sore skating 97as.
Expand QuoteMy knees and legs are way less sore skating 97as.[close]
This is what I would like. I really love the feel of 99s but looking for something softer for my cruiser setup. ai think I'll pick some bigger 97s. How do they compare to Slimeballs 97a?
The 97a spitfires are great, and Slide very, very well. I’m on classics now, and am hoping that they make them in smaller sizes soon
Whatever happened to that thread with the tworubesscholars getting into a virtual knock out drag out over skinny vs wide i.e. contact width correlating with a better slide?
You can listen to science and read about things, or you can actually ride a skateboard and feel the difference for yourself.
My older wider surfaced wheels have so much more grip than thinner ones.
* But don't let me stop anyone from making their own conclusions. That was an interesting read, even though I only skimmed most of it.
Expand QuoteYou can listen to science and read about things, or you can actually ride a skateboard and feel the difference for yourself.
My older wider surfaced wheels have so much more grip than thinner ones.
* But don't let me stop anyone from making their own conclusions. That was an interesting read, even though I only skimmed most of it.[close]
Why not do both?
Coming of 99s I couldn't really tell you the difference between them and the 97s. Bunk set?
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteNot yet, I'll man up and DM them now.[close]
Any reply yet?
Yes I know I am being too keen![close]
Nothing :(
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteNot yet, I'll man up and DM them now.[close]
Any reply yet?
Yes I know I am being too keen![close]
Nothing :([close]
I DM'd them ages agoe a few times, about them, they never replied.
I'm still pondering whether I should get those 97d Conical Fulls or some 78a Slimeballs because I really want a softer wheel for my cruiser and minimal vibration/jitter when going over rougher streets. I might just get those 97d wheels for my primary skate setup later. I love the gear madness.
Expand QuoteI'm still pondering whether I should get those 97d Conical Fulls or some 78a Slimeballs because I really want a softer wheel for my cruiser and minimal vibration/jitter when going over rougher streets. I might just get those 97d wheels for my primary skate setup later. I love the gear madness.[close]
F4 97A are hard wheels, they are just a bit more forgiving on rough ground, and grip more on slippery ground. I’d go with soft wheels on a cruiser unless you want to have a proper skate setup that has some cruiser qualities.
Why have my wheels stopped sliding to a screech?I find new bearings to deaden my board in general. Don't know if that has to do with your wheels tho.
I switched some conical fulls over to a different board new trucks + bearing combo and these wheels which previously would slide like a mf are dead and dull. I hate it
Expand QuoteI'm still pondering whether I should get those 97d Conical Fulls or some 78a Slimeballs because I really want a softer wheel for my cruiser and minimal vibration/jitter when going over rougher streets. I might just get those 97d wheels for my primary skate setup later. I love the gear madness.[close]
F4 97A are hard wheels, they are just a bit more forgiving on rough ground, and grip more on slippery ground. I’d go with soft wheels on a cruiser unless you want to have a proper skate setup that has some cruiser qualities.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI'm still pondering whether I should get those 97d Conical Fulls or some 78a Slimeballs because I really want a softer wheel for my cruiser and minimal vibration/jitter when going over rougher streets. I might just get those 97d wheels for my primary skate setup later. I love the gear madness.[close]
F4 97A are hard wheels, they are just a bit more forgiving on rough ground, and grip more on slippery ground. I’d go with soft wheels on a cruiser unless you want to have a proper skate setup that has some cruiser qualities.[close]
Yeah, they are absolutely *not* cruiser wheels. They are very hard wheel for trick skateboarding, just not as hard some others. Soft enough to make a difference on crustier terrain.
So hyped on these. thank you Kader for helping the youth see the light of big wheels.Expand Quotezach allen just posted a photo of kader’s 57mm radial fulls. hopefully that’ll hit the market soon. that shape is dope[close]
pic of the post for reference:
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/526625815794941952/908749835077828628/Screenshot_20211112-165227_Instagram.jpg)
spitfire really has too many damn shapesagreed.
Radial, radial slim, ok. Radial full?
agreed.Expand Quotespitfire really has too many damn shapes[close]
pals, what would you cut? whats the perfect amount of options? theres 10 f4 models afaik:
classics
classic fullog classics
radials
radial slimradial full*
conical
conical full
tabletslock ins
What would a radial full bring to the picture ?
Are Lockins impossible to get nowadays? Haven't seen them for sale in any shop in Europe for like 2 years.
Options are great. Can't believe SLAP gear nerds have issues with all the shapes....
Does anyone know if the Flatspots eventually fix themselves? I bought the wheels like 3 or 4 months ago and hadn't really noticed because Ive been skating street a bunch but the other day I went to Lot 11 (smooth street park) and it sounds like Im riding a motortcycle yet the flatspots are barely noticeable. Never had this issue and Ive been skating F4s for years and I powerslide a bunch.
Does anyone know if the Flatspots eventually fix themselves? I bought the wheels like 3 or 4 months ago and hadn't really noticed because Ive been skating street a bunch but the other day I went to Lot 11 (smooth street park) and it sounds like Im riding a motortcycle yet the flatspots are barely noticeable. Never had this issue and Ive been skating F4s for years and I powerslide a bunch.
agreed.Expand Quotespitfire really has too many damn shapes[close]
pals, what would you cut? what's the perfect amount of options? theres 10 f4 models afaik:
i found standard conicals to be pretty darn close to bones v5.
Expand Quoteagreed.Expand Quotespitfire really has too many damn shapes[close]
pals, what would you cut? what's the perfect amount of options? theres 10 f4 models afaik:[close]
I'm all for options, but at some point, you are hitting diminishing returns on shapes.
classics
[classic slims, oh how I miss you]
classic fullog classics
radials
radial slimradial full*
conical
conical fulltabletslock ins
What I'd add:
AWOL shape (it's like an STF V5)
Conical slim - to replace tablets
Headass question time: but has anyone noticed a difference with tablets when it came down to noseslides/tailslides on ledges and curbs? Been trying to get consistent with those and I’m gonna need new wheels soon so I thought maybe they could give me a bit of an advantage
Expand QuoteHeadass question time: but has anyone noticed a difference with tablets when it came down to noseslides/tailslides on ledges and curbs? Been trying to get consistent with those and I’m gonna need new wheels soon so I thought maybe they could give me a bit of an advantage[close]
Thank youExpand QuoteExpand QuoteHeadass question time: but has anyone noticed a difference with tablets when it came down to noseslides/tailslides on ledges and curbs? Been trying to get consistent with those and I’m gonna need new wheels soon so I thought maybe they could give me a bit of an advantage[close][close]
Slides are the same bizness with like contact patch width wheels (conicals for example). Good lock-in on grinds if that's your thing, like 50/50s and such.
It's mental for sure, but I found I didn't skate well on them compared to classics, and didn't prefer them over anything for the slappy game (especially slappy crooks).
AFAIK those were 53, 54 and 56 only. Lots of deals on them though and the 56s were natural color but that size may be sold through by now.Expand QuoteMy local has those SLAG 56mm radials, so theres a few sets floating around. Pretty sure they came in 55 as well!Expand QuoteI just want some 55mm Radials. I know some exist. One day.[close][close]
Pulled this line from the normal Wheels thread to add here:Expand QuoteAFAIK those were 53, 54 and 56 only. Lots of deals on them though and the 56s were natural color but that size may be sold through by now.Expand QuoteMy local has those SLAG 56mm radials, so theres a few sets floating around. Pretty sure they came in 55 as well!Expand QuoteI just want some 55mm Radials. I know some exist. One day.[close][close][close]
I still haven't seen the new Radials or Radial Full wheels, but I have a feeling the Full versions are not much if at all wider, but more so the bigger versions.
Were the first 55mm Radials the Oski dragons, then the Skate Like A Girl the only other Radials in 55mm wheels too?
I thought there were still some 55mm Radials around too, but the initial Skate Like A Girl 55mm Radials came out in the Spring 2020 catalog, from what I saw, which surprised me cause I didn't think it was that long ago.
https://www.spitfirewheels.com/spring-2020/
Specifically this one:
https://www.spitfirewheels.com/spring20/sf-sp20-d2-dt-04-2.jpg
Then the Spring 2021 catalog has the newer ones with the 56mm naturals:
https://www.spitfirewheels.com/spring-2021/
The two most recent catalogs have had normal Radials in 52, 54 and 56mm sizes, but I haven't seen many in shops or out there much. I had all three sizes from a few years back when there were lots around, with the 54mm being the only ones I kept and still have on a board as they are just the most comfortable overall size, but the 56mm is still a good size and shape for bigger wheels too.
It is funny how such a small thing like 55mm in the middle is such a small difference, compared to the more common 54mm or 56mm wheels, but I know others who have gone more for the smaller size for tech, or the bigger size for speed, so if nothing else, at least the 56mm will wear down to 55mm, or the 54mm wheels are the next best thing if you didn't want such big wheels to start with.
(https://www.spitfirewheels.com/summer21/sf-sm21-radials.jpg)
I really want these 52mm Radials and compare them with the 52mm Classic Fulls I recently got. My perfect wheel is somewhere in that range.
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I really want these 52mm Radials and compare them with the 52mm Classic Fulls I recently got. My perfect wheel is somewhere in that range.[close]
I just added the Radial size chart in the last message.
Your message from earlier came up in a search for Classic Full too:
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=68020.msg3655191#msg3655191
Charts to compare size:
(https://i.ibb.co/v4cKzCy/Spitfire-classic-full-specs-1a.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/XW1Q85R/Spitfire-Radial-chart.jpg)
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteHeadass question time: but has anyone noticed a difference with tablets when it came down to noseslides/tailslides on ledges and curbs? Been trying to get consistent with those and I’m gonna need new wheels soon so I thought maybe they could give me a bit of an advantage[close][close]
Slides are the same bizness with like contact patch width wheels (conicals for example). Good lock-in on grinds if that's your thing, like 50/50s and such.
It's mental for sure, but I found I didn't skate well on them compared to classics, and didn't prefer them over anything for the slappy game (especially slappy crooks).
spitfire really has too many damn shapesThere's a bunch now but I'm cool with em. I just wish they would update the part of the website with the dimensions but for the new wheels.
I noticed the Spitfire Fall 2021 Drop 2 is now up.57s up on Parade as Loud Clouds
https://www.spitfirewheels.com/
Really only the pro wheels in conical full from Mark Suciu, classic from Mason Silva and Louie Lopez and the Radial Full from Kader.
Already been discussed, but still waiting to see how many and if there are the 60mm as well as the 57 mm out there in shops.
(https://www.spitfirewheels.com/fall21/sf-fl21-d2-kader-04.jpg)
The dimensions on the 60s are perfect.
For y'all who need it
(https://i.ibb.co/QF33TGB/PXL-20211205-023417827.jpg) (https://ibb.co/QF33TGB)
How quickly do these need to sell out before Spitfire realize that people want 57-60mm street wheels to be regularly available?
i strayed from spitfire 99a f4s and got 103 stf. Worst decision. Wheels feel really hard when riding, but they're so difficult to slide and really loud when they do.
Also for some reason they were ridiculously hard to get bearings into, and exploded 6/8 of my bearings in a month. I'm really over them.
Expand Quotei strayed from spitfire 99a f4s and got 103 stf. Worst decision. Wheels feel really hard when riding, but they're so difficult to slide and really loud when they do.
Also for some reason they were ridiculously hard to get bearings into, and exploded 6/8 of my bearings in a month. I'm really over them.[close]
Aren't harder wheels always harder to get bearings into
Guessing most places will start showing up in searches within a week or so as stock arrives.
TGM has the 60mm wheels (24 in stock)
https://tgmskateboards.com/spifire-wheels-60mm-f4-kader-loud-clouds-99a-radial-full/
Also on CCS in both 57mm and 60mm
https://shop.ccs.com/collections/skate-components/products/spitfire-f4-99-kader-loud-clouds-radial-full-skateboard-wheels-natural-57mm
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0519/1388/3831/products/888560253933-2.jpg)
That post in the Wheels thread is pretty funny too:
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=82118.msg3688037#msg3688037
Does anyone know about shops in europe which has those radial fulls?
(https://i.ibb.co/NgvKx3g/Spitfire-Radial-Full-chart1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Gf6R7Jf)
Expand Quote(https://i.ibb.co/NgvKx3g/Spitfire-Radial-Full-chart1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Gf6R7Jf)[close]
Dude these are like car tyres ;D
Ive found some radial slims in 101a which im considering for my next wheel. Are they super slippery compared to my current conical fulls 99?
I want a wheel thats a little lighter than the CF and is not going to slip out on transition.
Probably could go with a regular radial or conical too, i've only tried CF and classics so far. It's almost like they got too many options..
Expand QuoteExpand Quote(https://i.ibb.co/NgvKx3g/Spitfire-Radial-Full-chart1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Gf6R7Jf)[close]
Dude these are like car tyres ;D[close]
I don't need new wheels, and I have been happily skating small wheels recently, but these tempt me nevertheless just because they are so ridiculously oversized.
Ive found some radial slims in 101a which im considering for my next wheel. Are they super slippery compared to my current conical fulls 99?
I want a wheel thats a little lighter than the CF and is not going to slip out on transition.
Probably could go with a regular radial or conical too, i've only tried CF and classics so far. It's almost like they got too many options..
The axle is almost completely covered. The 60mm are so wide. FUN beasts!
In stockWheels almost @ deck prices for the holidays
https://garageskateshop.com/collections/spitfire-wheels/products/spitfire-kader-formula-4-loud-clouds-radial-full-57mm-wheels
You can use this code to bring the price down:Wheels almost @ deck prices for the holidaysExpand QuoteIn stock
https://garageskateshop.com/collections/spitfire-wheels/products/spitfire-kader-formula-4-loud-clouds-radial-full-57mm-wheels[close]
ATTN: euro boys
Mantis in Hamburg's got the 57s (and the burnside 58 classics if anyone's into those)
https://mantisshop.de/detail/index/sArticle/7371/sCategory/22
I dm'd them a bit ago and they said that they've ordered the 60, but only the 57s arrived yesterday.
Expand QuoteATTN: euro boys
Mantis in Hamburg's got the 57s (and the burnside 58 classics if anyone's into those)
https://mantisshop.de/detail/index/sArticle/7371/sCategory/22
I dm'd them a bit ago and they said that they've ordered the 60, but only the 57s arrived yesterday.[close]
Lobby has the 57s, too:
https://www.lobby-skateshop.de/produkt/spifire-formula-four-kader-loud-clouds-radial-full-shape-99a/
Almost ordered but then realized that the wheels I really want are 52-54mm Radial Fulls. The Classic Fulls will do for now.
I wonder if any of you guys who do like the smaller diameter wheels could match up with some others who ride the bigger wheels for a trade / swap deal as I have going on with a number of skaters around my area, or even sending them where ever they need to go.im very interested in worn down 60mms in any shape
(https://i.ibb.co/kq78SJh/Spitfire-used-wheels-01.jpg) (https://ibb.co/nQGcLBD)
Haven’t had the conical fulls in a long time? How have you curb guys been liking them?. I ride mostly the classics or radial slims as I’ve been afraid of having curb stuff be more difficult on the harder edged wheel
Thanks for the response, i plan on going with a 53 for street so maybe they won’t be so bad or maybe I’ll set them up and hate them. I had a set when they first hit in 99a and I liked them a lot but I skate much differently nowExpand QuoteHaven’t had the conical fulls in a long time? How have you curb guys been liking them?. I ride mostly the classics or radial slims as I’ve been afraid of having curb stuff be more difficult on the harder edged wheel[close]
When they are new, there is a fairly small but still nicely rounded edge on them, but as they wear down, they definitely get a bit too sharp for what I like, hence the rounding off with an angle grinder in the pic above.
It also depends on which size as the smaller ones (53 to 54mm) are not half as huge as the bigger ones, which is why I usually stick to the Classic / Classic Full too.
I like medium width wheels when really worn down (Classics), or much wider wheels when they still have a little rounding to the edges (Classic Full), as they get on and off coping much more easily, but I am leaning more towards smaller / older Conical Full shapes on street stuff, which is pretty much how my other wheels end up anyway in terms of size and shape.
Not sure I would really ride the Conical Full shape from new, but they are still a good all round wheel for everything once you get used to the different feel to Classic shapes.
Thanks for the response, i plan on going with a 53 for street so maybe they won’t be so bad or maybe I’ll set them up and hate them. I had a set when they first hit in 99a and I liked them a lot but I skate much differently now
Local shop here just got some in and I might cop a set.Expand Quote
Thanks for the response, i plan on going with a 53 for street so maybe they won’t be so bad or maybe I’ll set them up and hate them. I had a set when they first hit in 99a and I liked them a lot but I skate much differently now[close]
I think you would actually like the 53mm size and shape quite a bit.
Looking at some new ones I have here, they are smaller than most of the others, while still being a good size wheel.
Anyone have the DLXSF customer service email? Got a huge chip on my F4 Tablets 2 sessions in, wanted to hit them up for a replacement. Spitfire and DLXSF have been quite on IG, thought I'd try email.
Anyone have the DLXSF customer service email? Got a huge chip on my F4 Tablets 2 sessions in, wanted to hit them up for a replacement. Spitfire and DLXSF have been quite on IG, thought I'd try email.Hit up Cam --> [email protected]
If anyone is still after some Kaders, Tactics has them in stock on both sizes. Just grabbed some 60s.
Hit up Cam --> [email protected]Expand QuoteAnyone have the DLXSF customer service email? Got a huge chip on my F4 Tablets 2 sessions in, wanted to hit them up for a replacement. Spitfire and DLXSF have been quite on IG, thought I'd try email.[close]
I see that the hommie that was getting picked on in the set-up thread is selling some 52mm 101 conical fulls. What’s people’seses opinions on the conical fulls in 101. I’m about 140ish(lubs naturally(pounds)) and skating a >14” wheelbase(I feel like it strangely mattters but could be wrong).
TLDR(I felt weirdly young when I had to look up what this meant the other day)
Opinions on 52mm conical fulls 101 or just the shape and duro?
I see that the hommie that was getting picked on in the set-up thread is selling some 52mm 101 conical fulls. What’s people’seses opinions on the conical fulls in 101. I’m about 140ish(lubs naturally(pounds)) and skating a >14” wheelbase(I feel like it strangely mattters but could be wrong).
TLDR(I felt weirdly young when I had to look up what this meant the other day)
Opinions on 52mm conical fulls 101 or just the shape and duro?
That’s the wheel I’ve been riding past years, perfect for me, get ’em! Perfect amount of control and slide, also best duro and shape for powerslides.Expand QuoteI see that the hommie that was getting picked on in the set-up thread is selling some 52mm 101 conical fulls. What’s people’seses opinions on the conical fulls in 101. I’m about 140ish(lubs naturally(pounds)) and skating a >14” wheelbase(I feel like it strangely mattters but could be wrong).
TLDR(I felt weirdly young when I had to look up what this meant the other day)
Opinions on 52mm conical fulls 101 or just the shape and duro?[close]
It's been a while since I last rode my setup with the 52 mm 101 conical fulls, but I enjoyed them. I honestly couldn't feel the difference between the 99 and 101 formula, but my guess is since I typically skate 99 classics, the 101 conical fulls wouldn't feel more slippery because of the extra riding surface
anyone know what duro these are?? I can’t find these in any of the catalogs.. https://www.paradeworld.com/products/spitfire-classic-swirl-wheels-blackwhite-56mm-90-6661680726070/
Expand Quoteanyone know what duro these are?? I can’t find these in any of the catalogs.. https://www.paradeworld.com/products/spitfire-classic-swirl-wheels-blackwhite-56mm-90-6661680726070/[close]
Two things:
1. These are the original 99 duro classic swirl wheels, great wheels in their time.
2. They are also rather unique, as they are not in the usual Spitfire packaging and at first thinking they were like the Navarrette swirl which is long out of stock, as far as I know, but I haven't seen these in this colour and graphic ever before, or at least I had some like them a while back, so they could have been a "team rider" or some other special edition.
Some of the Navarrette 56mm swirl:
https://olliedayskateshop.fr/produit/spitfire-wheels-swirl-pro-classic-navarrette-52mm-99a/
Could be just me but as far as more recent options, but the only ones I recall seeing were the orange / yellow swirl classics from last season.
https://www.tactics.com/spitfire/classic-skateboard-wheels/firefight-orange-yellow-99a
Seems like the Formula Four options come out once in a while too, some green / black conical fulls in shops now. Most of the coloured wheels are not made in large quantities and usually sell out fairly quickly, but there still might be some around in places that don't get so much traffic, as I have found here and there.
Anyone else correct me if I am wrong though.
thanks for the insight! I bought them last night and they immediately said sold out after. I probably snagged the only pair. thought the packaging was weird but didn’t hesitate to buy since parade has good customer service. If they end up being 99a i’ll be stoked since i’m currently skating those black and green conicals you mentioned but i totally prefer classics over any shape personally!
Yeah, was just the orange/yellow classic formulas recently.Expand Quoteanyone know what duro these are?? I can’t find these in any of the catalogs.. https://www.paradeworld.com/products/spitfire-classic-swirl-wheels-blackwhite-56mm-90-6661680726070/[close]
Two things:
1. These are the original 99 duro classic swirl wheels, great wheels in their time.
2. They are also rather unique, as they are not in the usual Spitfire packaging and at first thinking they were like the Navarrette swirl which is long out of stock, as far as I know, but I haven't seen these in this colour and graphic ever before, or at least I had some like them a while back, so they could have been a "team rider" or some other special edition.
Some of the Navarrette 56mm swirl:
https://olliedayskateshop.fr/produit/spitfire-wheels-swirl-pro-classic-navarrette-52mm-99a/
Could be just me but as far as more recent options, but the only ones I recall seeing were the orange / yellow swirl classics from last season.
https://www.tactics.com/spitfire/classic-skateboard-wheels/firefight-orange-yellow-99a
Seems like the Formula Four options come out once in a while too, some green / black conical fulls in shops now. Most of the coloured wheels are not made in large quantities and usually sell out fairly quickly, but there still might be some around in places that don't get so much traffic, as I have found here and there.
Anyone else correct me if I am wrong though.
Damn Oski's pro wheels look incredible. Would make for a nice sticker or shirt.
Stupid question now..
Will I feel a difference between 99 and 101 spits?
Never had 101 duro wheels before and I am not sure I would like them.
101 duro = sliding better, rattling my bones more?
I skate mostly on crusty streets, but maybe 101d conical fulls would feel nice there?
I live in the crusty Pacific Northwest and, although they’re ideal for skatepark concrete, I find the 101a to be too harsh for the streets here. 97a all the way for me, these days.
Damn Oski's pro wheels look incredible. Would make for a nice sticker or shirt.
Stupid question now..
Will I feel a difference between 99 and 101 spits?
Never had 101 duro wheels before and I am not sure I would like them.
101 duro = sliding better, rattling my bones more?
I skate mostly on crusty streets, but maybe 101d conical fulls would feel nice there?
What shape for 99s? I got conical fulls in 56mm/97a for the slippery indoor park and street crust but need something faster and maybe lighter on good concrete parks
There are almost too many options if people are not sure, but the rounder edge will be easier on everything and not stick so much when on coping or edges the way the Conical Full and squared shapes tend to do [...].Expand QuoteWhat shape for 99s? I got conical fulls in 56mm/97a for the slippery indoor park and street crust but need something faster and maybe lighter on good concrete parks[close]
There is a better, high res full card image somewhere too, that gets reposted every now and then with all the shapes.
Expand QuoteThere are almost too many options if people are not sure, but the rounder edge will be easier on everything and not stick so much when on coping or edges the way the Conical Full and squared shapes tend to do [...].Expand QuoteWhat shape for 99s? I got conical fulls in 56mm/97a for the slippery indoor park and street crust but need something faster and maybe lighter on good concrete parks[close]
I feel conical/square vs. rounded on coping is the most noticeable difference between the shapes. Personally, I prefer the solid lock in of Conical Fulls over Classics when skating transition. My grinds are noticeably faster and longer with Classics, however I need to focus on locking in much more and still wipe out from time to time. Therefore my confidence to go faster in the first place is higher with Conical Fulls.[close]
I’ll agree with this. Went from conical fulls to radial fulls and the wide wheel and rounded edges send me sailing over coping — metal and pool. I can say the lock-in felt better with the conical fulls, but getting over the coping easier is my preference.
Expand QuoteThere are almost too many options if people are not sure, but the rounder edge will be easier on everything and not stick so much when on coping or edges the way the Conical Full and squared shapes tend to do [...].Expand QuoteWhat shape for 99s? I got conical fulls in 56mm/97a for the slippery indoor park and street crust but need something faster and maybe lighter on good concrete parks[close][close]
I feel conical/square vs. rounded on coping is the most noticeable difference between the shapes. Personally, I prefer the solid lock in of Conical Fulls over Classics when skating transition. My grinds are noticeably faster and longer with Classics, however I need to focus on locking in much more and still wipe out from time to time. Therefore my confidence to go faster in the first place is higher with Conical Fulls.Expand QuoteThere is a better, high res full card image somewhere too, that gets reposted every now and then with all the shapes.[close]
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=68020.msg3587166#msg3587166
Rumor isSorry but you are not allowed to view spoiler contents.Conical Fulls coming this Summer.
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A 60mm 97a wheel would be hilarious. I know so many crusty dudes who would buy that.
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A 60mm 97a wheel would be hilarious. I know so many crusty dudes who would buy that.
Oski Radial 55 vs. Classic 56 vs. Conical Full 54. Seems like the radial is almost an exact average/tweener of the classic and cf. It's either the perfect shape that does everything well or the worst shape that does nothing well (this is mostly a joke). Gear madness at its highest level I would say.
(https://i.ibb.co/dJKP4w5/PXL-20220120-235706501.jpg) (https://ibb.co/dJKP4w5)(https://i.ibb.co/JHBd1NM/PXL-20220120-235801113.jpg) (https://ibb.co/JHBd1NM)
Oski Radial 55 vs. Classic 56 vs. Conical Full 54. Seems like the radial is almost an exact average/tweener of the classic and cf. It's either the perfect shape that does everything well or the worst shape that does nothing well (this is mostly a joke). Gear madness at its highest level I would say.
(https://i.ibb.co/dJKP4w5/PXL-20220120-235706501.jpg) (https://ibb.co/dJKP4w5)(https://i.ibb.co/JHBd1NM/PXL-20220120-235801113.jpg) (https://ibb.co/JHBd1NM)
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteRumor isSorry but you are not allowed to view spoiler contents.Conical Fulls coming this Summer.[close]
A 60mm 97a wheel would be hilarious. I know so many crusty dudes who would buy that.[close]
(https://i.ibb.co/Z2MRSXj/62-A3-B7-B5-4830-416-B-AEFB-92162-AFD0421.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Z2MRSXj)
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A 60mm 97a wheel would be hilarious. I know so many crusty dudes who would buy that.[close]
(https://i.ibb.co/Z2MRSXj/62-A3-B7-B5-4830-416-B-AEFB-92162-AFD0421.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Z2MRSXj)[close]
Hilarious that you think that would be hilarious. Standard size/durometer back in the day and works perfectly.
Might be of interest. Size/shape chart from my latest purchase.
Expand QuoteMight be of interest. Size/shape chart from my latest purchase.[close]
That's rad and thanks for posting.
Was this from the Kader wheels?
I see Radial Slim is still in there @rocklobster and Radial Full replaces the Radial info.
It is better to upload using the "Add image to post" which should be directly under the type box, so it is a much higher res image and hosted on the free site, vs files attached on the Slap server.
I just uploaded your pic then, but I will remove it if you upload the hi res version.
(https://i.ibb.co/kqWdjpf/Spitfire-Backing-Chart-2022.jpg) (https://ibb.co/XFvw19g)
are the regular radials no more?
Expand Quoteare the regular radials no more?[close]
The new Oskis in 55 and 57 mm are Radials.
Expand QuoteExpand Quoteare the regular radials no more?[close]
The new Oskis in 55 and 57 mm are Radials.[close]
Yeah I think they just ran out of room on the backing cards, so can only put so many on there, compared to the now eleven different shapes, isn't it?
didn't work, here is the link
https://ibb.co/jJGKBDf
(https://i.ibb.co/2ZP2mdh/IMAG1854.jpg)
Here's the one from the Oskis if it helps...
(https://i.ibb.co/NThG9Yf/PXL-20220123-153607760.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jJKjy4q)
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quoteare the regular radials no more?[close]
The new Oskis in 55 and 57 mm are Radials.[close]
Yeah I think they just ran out of room on the backing cards, so can only put so many on there, compared to the now eleven different shapes, isn't it?[close]
Definitely, though I think it’s 10:
Classic
Classic Full
Lock-Ins
Tablets
O.G. Classics
Radial Slims
Radials
Radial Full
Conical
Conical Full
As a Tech Writer, it really bothers me that they don’t name the shapes consistently. Slims vs. Full(s), Radials vs. Conical(s), etc.
Huh Idk why I thought they were fulls but got a set yesterday and really like them. Curious what other ppl think about them thoExpand Quoteare the regular radials no more?[close]
The new Oskis in 55 and 57 mm are Radials.
Well, at least the Radial slims are still in the line-up even if no drops contain them.
Based on the insert pics, the OG looks really similar to the Radial slim (and yet, also like the Conical Full). Am I crazy? Granted width is different per mm tall, maybe the OGs are a bit more round+the cutaway?
Expand QuoteWell, at least the Radial slims are still in the line-up even if no drops contain them.
Based on the insert pics, the OG looks really similar to the Radial slim (and yet, also like the Conical Full). Am I crazy? Granted width is different per mm tall, maybe the OGs are a bit more round+the cutaway?[close]
OG Classics ride and feel like a very squared off wheel, with a cutout from just under the lip of the wheel, so when they go down a few mm, they end up quite sharp, just like the Conical Full and similar wheels do.
They were also thinner than I had first thought, but when setup they skate well, sort of like a fatter Tablet or Radial Slim, even if it is barely a mm or so extra.
I can't help but think that Conical Full are maybe the best all rounder, even if I am not so keen on them when new, all the older used sets of 54mm, mostly down around 50-52 mm I have received back from people and then machined to be a bit more round on both edges just work so well.
The tablet with a little rounding is maybe the closest thing to what a lot of people miss with the Radial Slim wheels, but I guess most people are a bit scared to take an angle grinder to wheels like I do. If they are not used to it, they can make a pretty big mess, but it pays off - the same dimensions with a slightly more rounded edge.
Rumor isSorry but you are not allowed to view spoiler contents.Conical Fulls coming this Summer.
Expand QuoteWell, at least the Radial slims are still in the line-up even if no drops contain them.
Based on the insert pics, the OG looks really similar to the Radial slim (and yet, also like the Conical Full). Am I crazy? Granted width is different per mm tall, maybe the OGs are a bit more round+the cutaway?[close]
OG Classics ride and feel like a very squared off wheel, with a cutout from just under the lip of the wheel, so when they go down a few mm, they end up quite sharp, just like the Conical Full and similar wheels do.
They were also thinner than I had first thought, but when setup they skate well, sort of like a fatter Tablet or Radial Slim, even if it is barely a mm or so extra.
I can't help but think that Conical Full are maybe the best all rounder, even if I am not so keen on them when new, all the older used sets of 54mm, mostly down around 50-52 mm I have received back from people and then machined to be a bit more round on both edges just work so well.
The tablet with a little rounding is maybe the closest thing to what a lot of people miss with the Radial Slim wheels, but I guess most people are a bit scared to take an angle grinder to wheels like I do. If they are not used to it, they can make a pretty big mess, but it pays off - the same dimensions with a slightly more rounded edge.
You can’t really go wrong with Classics.
To someone that asked about standard Radials you can find them on Parade in tons of sizes. Only shape I haven’t ridden.
What happened to the Classic Full I think it was- the Classics that were just slightly wider?
Expand QuoteYou can’t really go wrong with Classics.
To someone that asked about standard Radials you can find them on Parade in tons of sizes. Only shape I haven’t ridden.
What happened to the Classic Full I think it was- the Classics that were just slightly wider?[close]Classic Fulls still come up every once in awhile. Usually as a Lifer model for someone like Lance.That's probably my favorite all round shape. Noticeably wider than a Classic, great shape that seems to last longer and I like the way they square off as they wear down.
I'm running some 58mm classics right now in hopes of them wearing down to a perfect radial like 54mm. Any one got photos of a set they wore down from a similar size?
Expand QuoteI'm running some 58mm classics right now in hopes of them wearing down to a perfect radial like 54mm. Any one got photos of a set they wore down from a similar size?[close]
I sure do. These are exactly that 58 classic worn down to 54, maybe a little bit under.
(https://i.imgur.com/PiLj3ed.jpg)
Expand QuoteYou can’t really go wrong with Classics.
To someone that asked about standard Radials you can find them on Parade in tons of sizes. Only shape I haven’t ridden.
What happened to the Classic Full I think it was- the Classics that were just slightly wider?[close]
Classic Fulls still come up every once in awhile. Usually as a Lifer model for someone like Lance.That's probably my favorite all round shape. Noticeably wider than a Classic, great shape that seems to last longer and I like the way they square off as they wear down.
Fuck yeah! they look great @Frank and Fred :DExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI'm running some 58mm classics right now in hopes of them wearing down to a perfect radial like 54mm. Any one got photos of a set they wore down from a similar size?[close]
I sure do. These are exactly that 58 classic worn down to 54, maybe a little bit under.
(https://i.imgur.com/PiLj3ed.jpg)[close]
*chef kiss*
You can’t really go wrong with Classics.Aren’t Bigheads Classic Fulls?
To someone that asked about standard Radials you can find them on Parade in tons of sizes. Only shape I haven’t ridden.
What happened to the Classic Full I think it was- the Classics that were just slightly wider?
Aren’t Bigheads Classic Fulls?Expand QuoteYou can’t really go wrong with Classics.
To someone that asked about standard Radials you can find them on Parade in tons of sizes. Only shape I haven’t ridden.
What happened to the Classic Full I think it was- the Classics that were just slightly wider?[close]
anybody know if spitfire is going to keep making 97 classics? i didn't see them in the last 2 catalogs and i really liked them, sure they wore down a little quicker but they felt like cruiser wheels that slid
Expand Quoteanybody know if spitfire is going to keep making 97 classics? i didn't see them in the last 2 catalogs and i really liked them, sure they wore down a little quicker but they felt like cruiser wheels that slid[close]
http://www.spitfirewheels.com/fall21/sf-fl21-d1-97s-09.jpg
97 classics
Over summer 21' I started skating the OG Classic shaped F4's, I prefer it over the conical full as they are more of the square shape i look for while having a large riding surface
Expand QuoteExpand Quoteanybody know if spitfire is going to keep making 97 classics? i didn't see them in the last 2 catalogs and i really liked them, sure they wore down a little quicker but they felt like cruiser wheels that slid[close]
http://www.spitfirewheels.com/fall21/sf-fl21-d1-97s-09.jpg
97 classics[close]
sick, thanks. if they're staying in the range i hope they're going to make 58mm 97 classics in the future. i bought my 56s on the 1st of september and they went down to 48-49 in 5 months. it took a whole year for my 58 99 classics to wear down to 50
Anyone got a review of the Radial Fulls yet? Specifically, the 60mm?
Want a wheel for big rugged parks... Think giant Oregon coast parks like Lincoln City....
My spare/novelty/shaped setup is quickly becoming a great cruiser and gnar/ditch board I think...
(https://i.ibb.co/q7GZjrk/PXL-20220103-201337857-2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/q7GZjrk)(https://i.ibb.co/4NJ0NGV/PXL-20220103-201352970-2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/4NJ0NGV)(https://i.ibb.co/q1wJCgH/PXL-20211223-193722718.jpg) (https://ibb.co/q1wJCgH)
Found a home for the 60mm Kaders and trying my first set of deck rails since my Staab c. 1987, lol.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quoteanybody know if spitfire is going to keep making 97 classics? i didn't see them in the last 2 catalogs and i really liked them, sure they wore down a little quicker but they felt like cruiser wheels that slid[close]
http://www.spitfirewheels.com/fall21/sf-fl21-d1-97s-09.jpg
97 classics[close]
sick, thanks. if they're staying in the range i hope they're going to make 58mm 97 classics in the future. i bought my 56s on the 1st of september and they went down to 48-49 in 5 months. it took a whole year for my 58 99 classics to wear down to 50[close]
Wow, that is interesting to hear, so they wore out in half the time.
I usually find my softer wheels last so much longer than my normal 99 duro wheels, but maybe I am not doing as much on them.
Anything in particular where you were skating, or how you were skating that might have influenced how quickly they wore down?
And re 97 duro wheels, I think there is an even bigger market than they first thought, so there are lots more coming out in the coming deliveries, more so in the Conical Full shape - 58mm and 60mm next drop as others have already said, but Classics are the primary shape, so I can't see them being stopped any time soon, but who knows about the bigger sizes.
I haven't skated my 97 duros half as much as I thought I might, but there haven't really been the situations where I wanted or needed more grip or slightly softer duro wheels a whole lot here, but I got a couple of sets of the 56 Classics and a couple of sets of the 54 Conical Full wheels just to have them if I needed them.
Expand QuoteOver summer 21' I started skating the OG Classic shaped F4's, I prefer it over the conical full as they are more of the square shape i look for while having a large riding surface[close]
yeah same but Im kinda gonna ditch square wheels might as well skate classics and hold crooks better and grind faster
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteOver summer 21' I started skating the OG Classic shaped F4's, I prefer it over the conical full as they are more of the square shape i look for while having a large riding surface[close]
yeah same but Im kinda gonna ditch square wheels might as well skate classics and hold crooks better and grind faster[close]
Im on square wheels because they feel like a more secure/consistent lock in for rails, like crooks, 5-0, and 50s feel much more more stable with square wheels, maybe its a mental thing for me but the classic shape feels like its gonna slip out of the lock-in on round handrails with crooks, 50s, ect.
Spitfire Spring 2022 Drop 1 is up
https://www.spitfirewheels.com/
Quite a few good ones, a couple of different options (the custom Yuto pro graphics looking cool for @rocklobster but sorry no Radial Slims) but the coloured options of the Skate Like A Girl are pretty cool, as are the Radial Full wheels in smaller sizes - smaller than 60mm that is.
(https://www.spitfirewheels.com/spring22/sf-sp22-d1-skate-like-a-girl-05.jpg)
(https://www.spitfirewheels.com/spring22/sf-sp22-d1-eternals-06.jpg)
is there any reason why they rarely do radials/radial slims smaller than 55mm? wanna try these out but worried about size, unless if that’s the purpose of the shape?
Expand Quoteis there any reason why they rarely do radials/radial slims smaller than 55mm? wanna try these out but worried about size, unless if that’s the purpose of the shape?[close]
A couple of online retailers still carry Radial Slims 99a in 52/54mm if you do some digging. But like I mentioned above, probably streamlining the catalog to keep raw materials for the most popular shapes. Most of the recent pro / 1-off wheels have been Classics (Mason Silva, Louie Lopez, Yuto, Burnside).
is there any reason why they rarely do radials/radial slims smaller than 55mm? wanna try these out but worried about size, unless if that’s the purpose of the shape?
Not a lot of 101a options but most skate 99a. But I got some 101a wheels ordered just to switch shit up. I’ll prob quickly be reminded why I skate 99a.
Expand QuoteNot a lot of 101a options but most skate 99a. But I got some 101a wheels ordered just to switch shit up. I’ll prob quickly be reminded why I skate 99a.[close]
Has anyone seen the Formula Four Classic 58mm or 60mm recently in 101a? Shoot, even 56s?
My preferred wheel is the 58mm in 101a but I can't recall the last time I've seen them anywhere.
Expand Quoteis there any reason why they rarely do radials/radial slims smaller than 55mm? wanna try these out but worried about size, unless if that’s the purpose of the shape?[close]
A couple of online retailers still carry Radial Slims 99a in 52/54mm if you do some digging. But like I mentioned above, probably streamlining the catalog to keep raw materials for the most popular shapes. Most of the recent pro / 1-off wheels have been Classics (Mason Silva, Louie Lopez, Yuto, Burnside).
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51877402139_7cac6ddf2d_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2n3efgV)
Moving in a month and cleaned out the closet where I store my skate stuff. I've accumulated these wheels over the course of 2 years (not including the sets on my two current set ups). Every one still rideable. All these different shapes, sizes, durometer has done a number on me. I don't know who I need to apologize to but I'm sorry.
For those that have emailed Spitfire before about defective products, how long did it take to get a response? I sent an email yesterday and haven't heard back yet.Can take a few days, depending how busy they are
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZYRyHpzIPE
Moving in a month and cleaned out the closet where I store my skate stuff. I've accumulated these wheels over the course of 2 years (not including the sets on my two current set ups). Every one still rideable. All these different shapes, sizes, durometer has done a number on me. I don't know who I need to apologize to but I'm sorry.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51877402139_7cac6ddf2d_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2n3efgV)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/2n3efgV) by (https://www.flickr.com/photos/162334525@N08/)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZYRyHpzIPE
Moving in a month and cleaned out the closet where I store my skate stuff. I've accumulated these wheels over the course of 2 years (not including the sets on my two current set ups). Every one still rideable. All these different shapes, sizes, durometer has done a number on me. I don't know who I need to apologize to but I'm sorry.
Expand Quote(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51877402139_7cac6ddf2d_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2n3efgV)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/2n3efgV) by (https://www.flickr.com/photos/162334525@N08/)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZYRyHpzIPE
Moving in a month and cleaned out the closet where I store my skate stuff. I've accumulated these wheels over the course of 2 years (not including the sets on my two current set ups). Every one still rideable. All these different shapes, sizes, durometer has done a number on me. I don't know who I need to apologize to but I'm sorry.[close]
You should wear it as a necklace, and a sign of power allowing you to rule your tribe.
Have you tried the 97s? I felt they were so similar to the oj 95s that there wasn’t much difference.
Have you tried the 97s? I felt they were so similar to the oj 95s that there wasn’t much difference.
Nah, those radial fulls are fucking proper. 95a-97a would be perfection.
Nah, those radial fulls are fucking proper. 95a-97a would be perfection.
This!Expand Quote(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51877402139_7cac6ddf2d_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2n3efgV)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/2n3efgV) by (https://www.flickr.com/photos/162334525@N08/)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZYRyHpzIPE
Moving in a month and cleaned out the closet where I store my skate stuff. I've accumulated these wheels over the course of 2 years (not including the sets on my two current set ups). Every one still rideable. All these different shapes, sizes, durometer has done a number on me. I don't know who I need to apologize to but I'm sorry.[close]
You should wear it as a necklace, and a sign of power allowing you to rule your tribe.
Anyone else riding radial fulls having issues with the bearings popping out? Been riding the 60s for a few weeks (they’re amazing) but usually a little bit into the sesh I gotta crank the bearings back in. At first I thought it was axel slip but then saw the bearing was coming out. Also they don’t slide in when I press em I’ve had to crank em with a tool. Can’t tell if it’s just a bum set or if anyone else is having this problem.
Expand QuoteAnyone else riding radial fulls having issues with the bearings popping out? Been riding the 60s for a few weeks (they’re amazing) but usually a little bit into the sesh I gotta crank the bearings back in. At first I thought it was axel slip but then saw the bearing was coming out. Also they don’t slide in when I press em I’ve had to crank em with a tool. Can’t tell if it’s just a bum set or if anyone else is having this problem.[close]
Did you get the ones above from this new drop or the Kader ones from last drop? I’ve been skating the 57 mm Kader ones for like six weeks and haven’t had any issues.
I've got a question for anyone who has skated F4 97d (especially Conical Fulls).
Did you guys have problems with powersliding easily? I came over from mainly skating really hard 103a Bones STF which are really slick, so obviously it was a shock... but I'm really surprised by how sticky these wheels are.
Are all F4's like this, or is it just a wide 97d thing? If I get 99d will I have a similar slide? How about 101d?
I also talked about it here: https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=82118.msg3747972#msg3747972
I've got a question for anyone who has skated F4 97d (especially Conical Fulls).
Did you guys have problems with powersliding easily? I came over from mainly skating really hard 103a Bones STF which are really slick, so obviously it was a shock... but I'm really surprised by how sticky these wheels are.
Are all F4's like this, or is it just a wide 97d thing? If I get 99d will I have a similar slide? How about 101d?
I also talked about it here: https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=82118.msg3747972#msg3747972
Expand QuoteI've got a question for anyone who has skated F4 97d (especially Conical Fulls).
Did you guys have problems with powersliding easily? I came over from mainly skating really hard 103a Bones STF which are really slick, so obviously it was a shock... but I'm really surprised by how sticky these wheels are.
Are all F4's like this, or is it just a wide 97d thing? If I get 99d will I have a similar slide? How about 101d?
I also talked about it here: https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=82118.msg3747972#msg3747972[close]
Oddly enough, the 97 conical fulls I have are fairly grippy whereas the 97a classics slide great, both 54 and 56mm. When I skate the 99a, they all slide consistently well for me.
Anyone else riding radial fulls having issues with the bearings popping out? Been riding the 60s for a few weeks (they’re amazing) but usually a little bit into the sesh I gotta crank the bearings back in. At first I thought it was axel slip but then saw the bearing was coming out. Also they don’t slide in when I press em I’ve had to crank em with a tool. Can’t tell if it’s just a bum set or if anyone else is having this problem.
This has been discussed at length so maybe do a search in the thread. The 97A are definitely too sticky for me when it's warm, but they are nice during the winter months. I also really like them in dusty indoor parks or on wooden miniramps. 99A is my sweetspot, good slide but enough grip to skate with confidence.
I just retired some 97a f4 classics. Very nice for skating on shitty ground, and nose/tail slides/blunts on most ledges, especially concrete, work very well. I do notice that on angle iron and rails I tend to have to push harder or wax the ledge more for slides though.
On concrete and asphalt 97s break into slides pretty much just as easily as 99s, and I actually prefer the slide when bombing hills because it feels more controlled and it helps slow you down more.
On smooth skatepark ground or chalky smooth ground, 97s feel a little gummier and grippier, almost like a cruiser wheel compared to its harder counterparts.
Great wheel, but I think 99s are still the perfect overall durometer for me and most people.
Expand QuoteI just retired some 97a f4 classics. Very nice for skating on shitty ground, and nose/tail slides/blunts on most ledges, especially concrete, work very well. I do notice that on angle iron and rails I tend to have to push harder or wax the ledge more for slides though.
On concrete and asphalt 97s break into slides pretty much just as easily as 99s, and I actually prefer the slide when bombing hills because it feels more controlled and it helps slow you down more.
On smooth skatepark ground or chalky smooth ground, 97s feel a little gummier and grippier, almost like a cruiser wheel compared to its harder counterparts.
Great wheel, but I think 99s are still the perfect overall durometer for me and most people.[close]
Ah, so it seems the shape definitely has a lot to do with people saying whether their 97s can slide.
The analogy would be like how an eraser on a pencil glides across paper... but if you have one of those rectangle erasers and you push it along the broad side, it won't slide.
It seems like when it comes to sliding: Once the wheels are a soft enough, the surface area really starts to matter. Or rather, once the surface area is wide enough, the softness really matters.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI just retired some 97a f4 classics. Very nice for skating on shitty ground, and nose/tail slides/blunts on most ledges, especially concrete, work very well. I do notice that on angle iron and rails I tend to have to push harder or wax the ledge more for slides though.
On concrete and asphalt 97s break into slides pretty much just as easily as 99s, and I actually prefer the slide when bombing hills because it feels more controlled and it helps slow you down more.
On smooth skatepark ground or chalky smooth ground, 97s feel a little gummier and grippier, almost like a cruiser wheel compared to its harder counterparts.
Great wheel, but I think 99s are still the perfect overall durometer for me and most people.[close]
Ah, so it seems the shape definitely has a lot to do with people saying whether their 97s can slide.
The analogy would be like how an eraser on a pencil glides across paper... but if you have one of those rectangle erasers and you push it along the broad side, it won't slide.
It seems like when it comes to sliding: Once the wheels are a soft enough, the surface area really starts to matter. Or rather, once the surface area is wide enough, the softness really matters.[close]
It makes a difference to some degree, but I've had 56mm 97a conical fulls before and everything I said above about the feel and slide applies to the conical fulls too.
Anyone else riding radial fulls having issues with the bearings popping out? Been riding the 60s for a few weeks (they’re amazing) but usually a little bit into the sesh I gotta crank the bearings back in. At first I thought it was axel slip but then saw the bearing was coming out. Also they don’t slide in when I press em I’ve had to crank em with a tool. Can’t tell if it’s just a bum set or if anyone else is having this problem.
I still have a brand new set of 97a 53mm's that have a defective wheel where the bearing won't go in but I was too lazy to email DLX.
Expand QuoteAnyone else riding radial fulls having issues with the bearings popping out? Been riding the 60s for a few weeks (they’re amazing) but usually a little bit into the sesh I gotta crank the bearings back in. At first I thought it was axel slip but then saw the bearing was coming out. Also they don’t slide in when I press em I’ve had to crank em with a tool. Can’t tell if it’s just a bum set or if anyone else is having this problem.[close]
Is it just one wheel or all of them?
I would have to look back over past posts, maybe in the wheels thread, but I had a conversation about this issue before, which has happened with other brand wheels.
If the bearing seat is a bit wide, or the bearing itself a bit too narrow, the bearings are more likely to move on tricks where the wheels have pressure on an angle, like smith grinds used to always make my back heel wheel have problems where the bearing would move and the wheel would stop rolling completely.
I would just put the board on the side, wheel facing me and push down on it to re seat the bearing on the inside and it was fine until the next time I did something that made it move.
Other people I know had to do this after each run, the push down and then the stand on the wheel on the ground and pull up on the one in the air to reseat both bearings. This gets old very quickly and pretty much made me not want to skate those wheels again, but when I changed bearings to another set, it stopped the problem, which was weird.
So maybe try a different set of bearings and see, otherwise go back to the shop you got them from and have them check them out. If it was an online purchase, take a pic or two and send an explanation to them and see.Expand Quote
I still have a brand new set of 97a 53mm's that have a defective wheel where the bearing won't go in but I was too lazy to email DLX.[close]
I actually had something similar just recently. The bearing seat is crooked so the bearing does not fit into the wheel, which is definitely a warranty issue.
The shop you bought them from should be able to take care of that for you as well.
Having kind of the same problem with some 58mm OG classics. The bearings in my front heel-side wheel keep coming unseated. Initially I thought it was axle slip, but I measured my protruding axles and they are bang-on even.
I tried rotating the wheels but no luck. Going to swap the bearings and see if that does it. Bummed either way because these are pretty new wheels.
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Having kind of the same problem with some 58mm OG classics. The bearings in my front heel-side wheel keep coming unseated. Initially I thought it was axle slip, but I measured my protruding axles and they are bang-on even.
I tried rotating the wheels but no luck. Going to swap the bearings and see if that does it. Bummed either way because these are pretty new wheels.[close]
So just the one specific wheel, or it is happening to one wheel in the front heel position, regardless of which wheel in the set you have on there?
Specific wheel = definitely something funny.
Any wheel in that position = what trick or movement might be causing it?
Either way it is a pain, but I know as silly as it sounds, some roughed up around the outside ring / kind of grubby looking older bearings actually stayed put in my wheels with issues, more so than brand new well lubed bearings (around the wheel bearing seat too to get the bearings in more easily) but at the end of the day, these things are made to fit perfectly so if a bearing is a little smaller, or a wheel bearing seat is a little bigger, things are not going to fit as intended.
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Having kind of the same problem with some 58mm OG classics. The bearings in my front heel-side wheel keep coming unseated. Initially I thought it was axle slip, but I measured my protruding axles and they are bang-on even.
I tried rotating the wheels but no luck. Going to swap the bearings and see if that does it. Bummed either way because these are pretty new wheels.[close]
So just the one specific wheel, or it is happening to one wheel in the front heel position, regardless of which wheel in the set you have on there?
Specific wheel = definitely something funny.
Any wheel in that position = what trick or movement might be causing it?
Either way it is a pain, but I know as silly as it sounds, some roughed up around the outside ring / kind of grubby looking older bearings actually stayed put in my wheels with issues, more so than brand new well lubed bearings (around the wheel bearing seat too to get the bearings in more easily) but at the end of the day, these things are made to fit perfectly so if a bearing is a little smaller, or a wheel bearing seat is a little bigger, things are not going to fit as intended.[close]
Same wheel in a different spot. Ashamed to say I went as far as thinking both axles slipped before I measured and realized it was the wheel. FWIW, I am running year old reds...just a bit surprised because I've never had any QC issues with F4s.
I’m going through some wheel madness. I fell away from god/spitfire really enjoy the bones v5 shape but it just don’t feel the same.
I live in the Midwest so street spots are rough but parks are smooth. I mostly skate ledges and dabble on transition. Idk which would be more universal ledges/tranny/park/street My shop has: 53m 99a conical fulls( what I think may be the best?)
54m 101a conical fulls ( I know they are harder but will they still slide good being 101a and may still be good on rough ground?)
56mm 99 classics (maybe wear them down to 54mm and they will feel great?)
54mm 97a classics (I do a lot of slides so I’m kinda afraid the 97a will stick too much)
I want plain 53/54mm 99a conicals but don’t wanna order them but will.
Expand QuoteI’m going through some wheel madness. I fell away from god/spitfire really enjoy the bones v5 shape but it just don’t feel the same.
I live in the Midwest so street spots are rough but parks are smooth. I mostly skate ledges and dabble on transition. Idk which would be more universal ledges/tranny/park/street My shop has: 53m 99a conical fulls( what I think may be the best?)
54m 101a conical fulls ( I know they are harder but will they still slide good being 101a and may still be good on rough ground?)
56mm 99 classics (maybe wear them down to 54mm and they will feel great?)
54mm 97a classics (I do a lot of slides so I’m kinda afraid the 97a will stick too much)
I want plain 53/54mm 99a conicals but don’t wanna order them but will.[close]
also in the midwest. 53/54 99a conicals get anything and everything done for me. sometimes in the winter months I go bigger (55-56) and sometimes in the summer, I go smaller (52)... but 53/54 99a is always perfect.
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This has been discussed at length so maybe do a search in the thread. The 97A are definitely too sticky for me when it's warm, but they are nice during the winter months. I also really like them in dusty indoor parks or on wooden miniramps. 99A is my sweetspot, good slide but enough grip to skate with confidence.[close]
Thanks for the reply. I'll keep that in mind. What shape do you ride?
I actually have been searching through threads. Wasn't really finding a solid consensus on 97d. I'm a longtime lurker, and I made an account just to ask again now that they've been out for a while.
I've seen people say "97d slide exactly like F4 99d" which is what worried me about giving 99d a try.
anyone have some slightly worn down radial fulls?
wondering what the shape looks like with a few mms missing
What’s the the difference between OG classics and the regular conicals? Just the conicals have a slightly smaller riding surface? Or are the cut of the corner angles different?
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The OG Classic Shape is much more of a sharp cut (much less rounded than normal conical or conical full, basically 90 degree for sake of simplicity) and has a slightly wider riding surface, ideal square wheel for me
The F4 OG classic has been my favorite wheel so far because I love square cut wheels for how lock ins on rails feel, and they have great riding surface
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Recently just bought my first pair of spitfire wheels ever and one wheel is noticably wobbly. I took the bearings off multiple times, mixed them up, bought a bearing press, did it all again multiple times and that's the long story short.
https://imgur.com/a/3vINWLG (here's the imgur video of the wheel spinning. I'm still learning how to make media appear on here.)
I've mostly skated bones stf, and rictas for street/park skating and a some ojs and satoris for cruiser wheels.
I'm pretty bummed on this.
The lower quality of the gif doesn't even do a justice.[close]
Contact them here and make sure to include where you bought them from and include all relevant media.
https://www.spitfirewheels.com/guaranteed/[close]
Yeah holy shit thanks I had no idea it was like that.
I'm not trashing spitfire, I'm still hyped. It's my first pair and I think spitfire is sick but for real tho. out of all the wheels I've ever skated; Bones, ricta, satori, board brand wheels, haha flip tri cuts was my first "real" wheel, but all that to say I've never had an issue with any other wheel like this. Every other wheel had rolled straight.
And yeah I emailed them, Cameron something got back to me and requested all the required stuff. I provided all the required shit including video and it's been two days and I've heard nothing. I'm honestly getting kinda butt hurt now.
Really hoping to get a replacement set. Hell I even started off asking for just one wheel to get sent to me.
Shit, I just ordered some F4 Radial Fulls and for the first time pulled the trigger on some Bones Swiss Six. I'm really afraid to put them in now.that chance that your wheels are defective is so low. if you are going to stress about an expensive bearing like that id just stick to good ol reds... doesnt sound fun to me to be worrying like that about a bearing you are going to be putting through massive amounts of stress anyways.
It would be a major bummer to put my brand new bearings in a defective wheel and damage them right away while skating. Especially since I know that even just removing a bearing from a skate wheel, it damages the bearing. I might have to just put some basic bearings in the wheel for now and save the Swiss for the next wheel I grab.
that chance that your wheels are defective is so low.
if you are going to stress about an expensive bearing like that id just stick to good ol reds... doesnt sound fun to me to be worrying like that about a bearing you are going to be putting through massive amounts of stress anyways.
Expand Quotethat chance that your wheels are defective is so low.[close]
I've just seen a ton of posts on here about defects lately.Expand Quoteif you are going to stress about an expensive bearing like that id just stick to good ol reds... doesnt sound fun to me to be worrying like that about a bearing you are going to be putting through massive amounts of stress anyways.[close]
You right.
I hate to say it but after getting an email back from spitfire, I sent photos and description and never heard back about the racer issues with my radial fulls. Bought a pair of 58 og classics and having the same issue, one wheel the bearing is popping out and won’t go back in. Had to use the bearing press at my local shop just to get a session in. Hopefully they get back to me cause I’m 80 bucks in the hole now. Even bought new bearings in case my old ones were fucked and even my new modus don’t fit right.
Here's the one from the Oskis if it helps...(https://i.ibb.co/NThG9Yf/PXL-20220123-153607760.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jJKjy4q)
That's big, thanks!
So it looks like at the moment they are keeping Radial Slims and "OG" Classics, but dumping the Radials in favor of Radial FULLs.
I think that all makes sense.
I just got some regular conicals love them so far. I think they may be pre pandemic because radial full isn’t listed on the card. Some here to hoping I avoid the bearing and other issues
How much 'wobble' are people talking about? Spacers and washers helping?
Expand QuoteI just got some regular conicals love them so far. I think they may be pre pandemic because radial full isn’t listed on the card. Some here to hoping I avoid the bearing and other issues[close]
I could definitely be wrong, but I thought the only wheels that have Radial Full on the card is the Radial Full wheels.
All others still have the normal Radials in the eight wheel shapes.
Saw some brand new ones which are definitely from the most recent drop (graphic) and they were the usual eight.
Re pre pandemic wheels, I think there were not a whole lot of them left, given they were in such short supply, almost sold out everywhere, even though there would be some shops / places that still had a lot.
I have had at least twenty sets through my hands that I know are post pandemic and only one of those had a single wobbly wheel.
I do have a pic of the card with Spitfire Classic Full wheels too, but the sizes are not correct past 53mm, so I added to this one, which I feel is still not quite correct, but closer than what it was before.The Classic Full Repeater in 54mm is 34mm wide, so the card is accurate on that one.
The Classic Full Repeater in 54mm is 34mm wide, so the card is accurate on that one.Expand QuoteI do have a pic of the card with Spitfire Classic Full wheels too, but the sizes are not correct past 53mm, so I added to this one, which I feel is still not quite correct, but closer than what it was before.[close]
Expand QuoteThe Classic Full Repeater in 54mm is 34mm wide, so the card is accurate on that one.Expand QuoteI do have a pic of the card with Spitfire Classic Full wheels too, but the sizes are not correct past 53mm, so I added to this one, which I feel is still not quite correct, but closer than what it was before.[close][close]
Yes I made a mess of that one.
I really only get the 56 and 58mm Classic Full wheels, which are a lot wider in real life, but were actually less than the Classics on the standard card, with one set of used 54mm Classic Full coming after I did that "fix" which I had been meaning to correct but hadn't gotten around to it.
* Edit
I had a dig through some boxes and found not only the old Classic Full cards, but also a set of the Spitfire Cardiel Charro wheels (from 2015), which are actually 54.5 mm and they measure 35 wide with 19 contact (maybe even 19.5 mm contact).
So the sizes are really as follows:
Classic Full chart correct to 54mm and measurements just taken again on wheels I have:
52 33 18
53 33.5 18.5
54 34 19
54.5 35 19.5
56 37 22.5
58 38 24
(https://www.dlxsf.com/fall15/img/fall15/sf/04-CARDIEL-CHARRO-FT-800.jpg)
damn, got my hopes up for a sec that these were in a new drop
Since the repeaters came up again, I thought some of you might like a flashback. 60mm power cored (97DU outer, 100DU inner) Spitfires from around 2000.
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damn, got my hopes up for a sec that these were in a new drop[close]
It is a funny one.
They are a good sized wheel, but with that Cardiel graphic, I keep thinking I can skate other wheels and hold on to these.
Usually the first thing I do is take the graphic off anyway, as I just want the wheels for how they perform.
Right now the Spitfire Repeaters which are Classic Full come in 52 and 54 mm in natural, 53 mm in black, with quite a few still around if you wanted that size wheel.
(https://www.basementskate.com.au/images/P/spitfire-skateboard-wheels-f4-classic-54mm-repeaters-99a.png)
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damn, got my hopes up for a sec that these were in a new drop[close]
It is a funny one.
They are a good sized wheel, but with that Cardiel graphic, I keep thinking I can skate other wheels and hold on to these.
Usually the first thing I do is take the graphic off anyway, as I just want the wheels for how they perform.
Right now the Spitfire Repeaters which are Classic Full come in 52 and 54 mm in natural, 53 mm in black, with quite a few still around if you wanted that size wheel.
What’s your process for taking the graphics off? Sorry if it’s been posted already
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What’s your process for taking the graphics off? Sorry if it’s been posted already[close]
-Put two bearings in each wheel
-Mount to trucks, graphics facing in
-find curb or coping
-skate for an hour or two
-graphics will be gone (mostly)
What’s your process for taking the graphics off? Sorry if it’s been posted already
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What’s your process for taking the graphics off? Sorry if it’s been posted already[close]
not op but i just sanded them off of my f4 og classics with a grip scrap. tried nail polish remover but it did nothing. the urethane might be stained a little bit from the graphic, hard to tell though as i had 55s so it was yellow.
@Mbrimson88 did a bit of a cleaner job though. looks so clean.
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What’s your process for taking the graphics off? Sorry if it’s been posted already[close]
not op but i just sanded them off of my f4 og classics with a grip scrap. tried nail polish remover but it did nothing. the urethane might be stained a little bit from the graphic, hard to tell though as i had 55s so it was yellow.
@Mbrimson88 did a bit of a cleaner job though. looks so clean.[close]
Now I am used to it, the little Ryobi angle grinder is so handy for lots of things, but I know a lot of people look at me in horror when I get it out to "fix their board" be it to reshape, round off or take graphics off the wheels, rounding down the kingpins or cutting busted nuts off, or even tidying up really chipped edges or ends of decks, or cutting wheel wells in boards too. It has so many good uses.
For anyone wanting to try it, go for some old parts first just to get used to it, as I know some people have thought it looked easy and then messed up stuff quite quickly by doing it wrong.
The disc should spin beside the wheel, so when it touches, the wheel will also spin with it.
For other things, go easy and don't apply too much pressure. The heat can cook and melt bushings when cutting kingpins or kingpin nuts or you can burn right into decks and start a fire if you are not careful.
wouldnt be simpler for anyone who doesnt need to own this tool to use something like acetone to wipe the graphic offAlways be careful with acetone + plastic'ish stuffs. Sometimes it's OK, often...it's not.
Always be careful with acetone + plastic'ish stuffs. Sometimes it's OK, often...it's not.Expand Quotewouldnt be simpler for anyone who doesnt need to own this tool to use something like acetone to wipe the graphic off[close]
Yeah, and I think scrubbing sponge alone should work about as well.Expand QuoteAlways be careful with acetone + plastic'ish stuffs. Sometimes it's OK, often...it's not.Expand Quotewouldnt be simpler for anyone who doesnt need to own this tool to use something like acetone to wipe the graphic off[close][close]
Alcohol (IPA) + scrubbing sponge removes wheel graphics safely. Takes some scrubbing but works. Cannot have graphics facing outward so I need to apply this treatment to Classics that have label prints on the otherwise blank side.
i was thinking more along the lines of nail polish remover with a cotton ball which isnt just straight acetoneAlways be careful with acetone + plastic'ish stuffs. Sometimes it's OK, often...it's not.Expand Quotewouldnt be simpler for anyone who doesnt need to own this tool to use something like acetone to wipe the graphic off[close]
If you like spitfires but hate wheel graphics, buy NFG's you can just scrape the minimal graphic off with your finger nail ;)
A nicely graphic'd wheel is the tits.
Just bought a set of wheels with sick graphics just to put on the shelf and look at.
A nicely graphic'd wheel is the tits.
Just bought a set of wheels with sick graphics just to put on the shelf and look at.
I'm riding some Radial Fulls for the first time. Definitely the biggest wheel I've ever skated. Still getting used to the whole setup, so I can't really speak to the wheels in particular yet.
I'm realizing that even though I initially wasn't a huge fan of the 97a I was riding, it's hard to go back up to 99a with this Midwest crust. Brutal out here.
It will be hard to determine what is Conical Full vs. Radial Full and what is 97a vs. 99a. Especially with the Conical Fulls having started at 54 and are now 50-52, while the Radial Fulls are 56. However, no complaints yet except for my brand new Aces are very squirrelly, so all 4 of my wheels have wheelbit already on my first session.
Once I wear the trucks in, I'll tighten them up a bit and report back on the wheels.
Anyone have any strong opinions on wheel shape? Conical vs. radial vs. straight edge vs. classic?
Expand QuoteI'm riding some Radial Fulls for the first time. Definitely the biggest wheel I've ever skated. Still getting used to the whole setup, so I can't really speak to the wheels in particular yet.
I'm realizing that even though I initially wasn't a huge fan of the 97a I was riding, it's hard to go back up to 99a with this Midwest crust. Brutal out here.
It will be hard to determine what is Conical Full vs. Radial Full and what is 97a vs. 99a. Especially with the Conical Fulls having started at 54 and are now 50-52, while the Radial Fulls are 56. However, no complaints yet except for my brand new Aces are very squirrelly, so all 4 of my wheels have wheelbit already on my first session.
Once I wear the trucks in, I'll tighten them up a bit and report back on the wheels.
Anyone have any strong opinions on wheel shape? Conical vs. radial vs. straight edge vs. classic?[close]
Radial is the perfect blend of all wheel shapes. And as a broke lad right now I appreciate that they get more square as they wear down to help with lock. 56mm or larger classics also kind of act like radials for me.
Expand QuoteI'm riding some Radial Fulls for the first time. Definitely the biggest wheel I've ever skated. Still getting used to the whole setup, so I can't really speak to the wheels in particular yet.
I'm realizing that even though I initially wasn't a huge fan of the 97a I was riding, it's hard to go back up to 99a with this Midwest crust. Brutal out here.
It will be hard to determine what is Conical Full vs. Radial Full and what is 97a vs. 99a. Especially with the Conical Fulls having started at 54 and are now 50-52, while the Radial Fulls are 56. However, no complaints yet except for my brand new Aces are very squirrelly, so all 4 of my wheels have wheelbit already on my first session.
Once I wear the trucks in, I'll tighten them up a bit and report back on the wheels.
Anyone have any strong opinions on wheel shape? Conical vs. radial vs. straight edge vs. classic?[close]
Radial is the perfect blend of all wheel shapes. And as a broke lad right now I appreciate that they get more square as they wear down to help with lock. 56mm or larger classics also kind of act like radials for me.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI'm riding some Radial Fulls for the first time. Definitely the biggest wheel I've ever skated. Still getting used to the whole setup, so I can't really speak to the wheels in particular yet.
I'm realizing that even though I initially wasn't a huge fan of the 97a I was riding, it's hard to go back up to 99a with this Midwest crust. Brutal out here.
It will be hard to determine what is Conical Full vs. Radial Full and what is 97a vs. 99a. Especially with the Conical Fulls having started at 54 and are now 50-52, while the Radial Fulls are 56. However, no complaints yet except for my brand new Aces are very squirrelly, so all 4 of my wheels have wheelbit already on my first session.
Once I wear the trucks in, I'll tighten them up a bit and report back on the wheels.
Anyone have any strong opinions on wheel shape? Conical vs. radial vs. straight edge vs. classic?[close]
Radial is the perfect blend of all wheel shapes. And as a broke lad right now I appreciate that they get more square as they wear down to help with lock. 56mm or larger classics also kind of act like radials for me.[close]
I definitely enjoy the Classic wheels in larger sizes once they wear down a few mm, as you said 56 down to between 54 to 52 mm is about perfect I think, but I do like wider wheels in general with roundish edges.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI'm riding some Radial Fulls for the first time. Definitely the biggest wheel I've ever skated. Still getting used to the whole setup, so I can't really speak to the wheels in particular yet.
I'm realizing that even though I initially wasn't a huge fan of the 97a I was riding, it's hard to go back up to 99a with this Midwest crust. Brutal out here.
It will be hard to determine what is Conical Full vs. Radial Full and what is 97a vs. 99a. Especially with the Conical Fulls having started at 54 and are now 50-52, while the Radial Fulls are 56. However, no complaints yet except for my brand new Aces are very squirrelly, so all 4 of my wheels have wheelbit already on my first session.
Once I wear the trucks in, I'll tighten them up a bit and report back on the wheels.
Anyone have any strong opinions on wheel shape? Conical vs. radial vs. straight edge vs. classic?[close]
Radial is the perfect blend of all wheel shapes. And as a broke lad right now I appreciate that they get more square as they wear down to help with lock. 56mm or larger classics also kind of act like radials for me.[close]
I definitely enjoy the Classic wheels in larger sizes once they wear down a few mm, as you said 56 down to between 54 to 52 mm is about perfect I think, but I do like wider wheels in general with roundish edges.[close]
My sweetspot for wheel size is too small for this. I want my wheels to be 51 - 53 mm. So wearing them down from 56 mm will take longer than I can actually ride them at my preferred size. Just ditched a set of 52 mm Classics that were down to just under 50 mm in no time. Put on 52 mm Classic Fulls that I don't expect to last for much longer. So I will try 54 mm next to get a bit more out of one set. I used to be more comfy on broken in setups but since last year's setup deep dive I have started to appreciate fresh setups. Shit is getting expensive.
Classic Fulls are a worn 54/56 (for 52mm/54mm respectively) from the get go if you want to skip that process
Has anyone tried the lil smokes? 50-51mm? They look like a different compond to say the F4s?
Am I right in saying that?
I would love a 51mm f4 Tablet
Has anyone tried the lil smokes? 50-51mm? They look like a different compond to say the F4s?They are f4.
Am I right in saying that?
I would love a 51mm f4 Tablet
They're indeed F4. Had a pair of standard 99 51mm tablets and a set of lil smokie 99 51mm tablets. They skated exactly the same and were probably the best small wheels I've ever ran.
Expand QuoteHas anyone tried the lil smokes? 50-51mm? They look like a different compond to say the F4s?
Am I right in saying that?
I would love a 51mm f4 Tablet[close]
IIRC someone on here said something like Lil Smokies could be wheels that didn’t pass QC, are shaped into a smaller, usable size/ shape then given a minimal graphic to maintain a lower price point.
I think I read that on here but I’m halfway through my post-work joint and I could be wrong.
They're indeed F4. Had a pair of standard 99 51mm tablets and a set of lil smokie 99 51mm tablets. They skated exactly the same and were probably the best small wheels I've ever ran.
Had my first session on the Radial Full 56mm and these things absolutely GO. I’m usually on a 54mm when on 8.25 and 52mm on 8, but I threw these beasts on my 8.25 and I kinda love it. They’re definitely heavy but they still seem to get off the ground just fine, I felt like I had to really muscle my pop but then it paid off.
I think these will perhaps go on my Couch with some wide and light Thunders, that sounds nice to me right now. I want to experiment with them on trucks that are more narrow than the deck, it seems like they might turn better. Maybe like an 8.5 with 144s and an extra inner washer.
Expand QuoteHad my first session on the Radial Full 56mm and these things absolutely GO. I’m usually on a 54mm when on 8.25 and 52mm on 8, but I threw these beasts on my 8.25 and I kinda love it. They’re definitely heavy but they still seem to get off the ground just fine, I felt like I had to really muscle my pop but then it paid off.
I think these will perhaps go on my Couch with some wide and light Thunders, that sounds nice to me right now. I want to experiment with them on trucks that are more narrow than the deck, it seems like they might turn better. Maybe like an 8.5 with 144s and an extra inner washer.[close]
56 and bigger are just the best. Riding 57 Oski Radials. Waiting for my next deck to setup the 60 Kader Radial Fulls with Risers, event though they might be too extreme...
First 30 minute cruise through my neighborhood with some new 53mm OG classics.
I was on 54mm classics half my life and man these 53mm OG's handle the crust here so much better. They have the same width as my old classics but just more square edges and a wider riding surface. Might throw a second washer on the insides of my 144s to push the wheels a bit more out (I ride 8.25 decks). I need a while to get used to the different feeling and maybe readjust my ollies a bit.
Does anyone ride tablets? I don't think I've seen a pair in the wild. Can anyone speak to their benefits?
Does anyone ride tablets? I don't think I've seen a pair in the wild. Can anyone speak to their benefits?
Does anyone ride tablets? I don't think I've seen a pair in the wild. Can anyone speak to their benefits?Skated couple sets (52 & 54mm)
Radials slims had a similar slim profile, locked in pretty much just as well, but had some taper and didn't have a completely flat sidewall. Felt pretty much better in every way to me unless you absolutely need maximum contact patch no matter what.
Wish they made that shape again.
I’ve also had and not really liked Tablets. They have a wider riding surface than Classics, close to Conical width I think. The comparison to Radial Slims has already been made, but I’d rather ride Conicals over them as well.
I appreciate the last few posts on this. I’m still looking for the ultimate 52.
Expand QuoteI appreciate the last few posts on this. I’m still looking for the ultimate 52.[close]
Spitfire is continuing to pump out new shapes for the F4 so ive got a feeling your perfect wheel will come down the pipeline soon or you just haventquite found it yet haha
My ultimate 52 was when I saw OG Classic shape come out in Formula Four a year or 2 ago.
I'm not the biggest fan of tablets.
Look weird, sidewall drag when locking in, and the lack of taper makes scooping tricks/breaking into slides a little trickier. Also easier to get caught in cracks when rolling parallel to them vs say a classic.
Radials slims had a similar slim profile, locked in pretty much just as well, but had some taper and didn't have a completely flat sidewall. Felt pretty much better in every way to me unless you absolutely need maximum contact patch no matter what.
Wish they made that shape again.
I appreciate the last few posts on this. I’m still looking for the ultimate 52.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI appreciate the last few posts on this. I’m still looking for the ultimate 52.[close]
Spitfire is continuing to pump out new shapes for the F4 so ive got a feeling your perfect wheel will come down the pipeline soon or you just haventquite found it yet haha
My ultimate 52 was when I saw OG Classic shape come out in Formula Four a year or 2 ago.[close]
Haven’t skated those yet. I like the flip with classics a lot. I got 52 conical fulls, but they are 101s, and are not ideal for the terroir. Tbh the og classics kinda confused me, as they seemed a little too close to the conical fulls…? What the key difference/advantage?
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53 OG Classics compared to 56 Classics. Going to exchange one or both for something else but don’t know what. Riding on 52mm conical fulls (was 54) but not liking the squareness for slappies and fat coping and extra clunkiness. I do like the smoothness of the wide surface area. Maybe keep the 56 classics and endure the crust or pick up some 55 radials. Need a wheel that feels right in parking lots and full pipes.
I really believe if Spit released more regular Radials that that shape would be higher up in the popularity polls
Expand QuoteI really believe if Spit released more regular Radials that that shape would be higher up in the popularity polls[close]
Yeah, everywhere is overstocked with Classics of every size, and hardness. Conical Fulls are usually available but certain hardness and sizes are missing (because they're so popular). Tablets are usually the random third option these days, while pretty much every other shape is a crap shoot. Its weird though, it doesn't seem like the tablets have a massive following. I don't think many people hate them, but I don't know if they are many peoples' first choice?
It seems like people who care about wheel shape outside of the main two tend to like Conical (regular) and Radial Slims yet they're both impossible to find.
It also feels kind of random to me that they only make their 97a wheel for Conical Fulls and Classics. I know its because they are the most popular shapes. Conical Fulls make complete sense, but is there really a market for slim soft wheels? It seems a bit counter intuitive.
Seems like Conical Full and Radial Full would be the shapes to give the 97a treatment to. If you are stepping down to 97a, you are probably skating some CRUSTY streets that would benefit from a wide wheel too. A thin 97a just seems like the worst of both worlds, right?
Expand QuoteI really believe if Spit released more regular Radials that that shape would be higher up in the popularity polls[close]
Yeah, everywhere is overstocked with Classics of every size, and hardness. Conical Fulls are usually available but certain hardness and sizes are missing (because they're so popular). Tablets are usually the random third option these days, while pretty much every other shape is a crap shoot. Its weird though, it doesn't seem like the tablets have a massive following. I don't think many people hate them, but I don't know if they are many peoples' first choice?
It seems like people who care about wheel shape outside of the main two tend to like Conical (regular) and Radial Slims yet they're both impossible to find.
It also feels kind of random to me that they only make their 97a wheel for Conical Fulls and Classics. I know its because they are the most popular shapes. Conical Fulls make complete sense, but is there really a market for slim soft wheels? It seems a bit counter intuitive.
Seems like Conical Full and Radial Full would be the shapes to give the 97a treatment to. If you are stepping down to 97a, you are probably skating some CRUSTY streets that would benefit from a wide wheel too. A thin 97a just seems like the worst of both worlds, right?
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI really believe if Spit released more regular Radials that that shape would be higher up in the popularity polls[close]
Yeah, everywhere is overstocked with Classics of every size, and hardness. Conical Fulls are usually available but certain hardness and sizes are missing (because they're so popular). Tablets are usually the random third option these days, while pretty much every other shape is a crap shoot. Its weird though, it doesn't seem like the tablets have a massive following. I don't think many people hate them, but I don't know if they are many peoples' first choice?
It seems like people who care about wheel shape outside of the main two tend to like Conical (regular) and Radial Slims yet they're both impossible to find.
It also feels kind of random to me that they only make their 97a wheel for Conical Fulls and Classics. I know its because they are the most popular shapes. Conical Fulls make complete sense, but is there really a market for slim soft wheels? It seems a bit counter intuitive.
Seems like Conical Full and Radial Full would be the shapes to give the 97a treatment to. If you are stepping down to 97a, you are probably skating some CRUSTY streets that would benefit from a wide wheel too. A thin 97a just seems like the worst of both worlds, right?[close]
Yes, exactly. I really want to try some 52mm or 53mm Conical's. But I just got some new 53mm OG Classics and have to get used to them.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CbqsEOcpU3f/?utm_medium=share_sheetThat’s kinda hot actually, been wanting to try 99d conical fulls but hard to justify 50€ when I have perfectly ok 101 classics already…
can’t remember if these are spring d2 or summer but antisocial got em early!
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI really believe if Spit released more regular Radials that that shape would be higher up in the popularity polls[close]
Yeah, everywhere is overstocked with Classics of every size, and hardness. Conical Fulls are usually available but certain hardness and sizes are missing (because they're so popular). Tablets are usually the random third option these days, while pretty much every other shape is a crap shoot. Its weird though, it doesn't seem like the tablets have a massive following. I don't think many people hate them, but I don't know if they are many peoples' first choice?
It seems like people who care about wheel shape outside of the main two tend to like Conical (regular) and Radial Slims yet they're both impossible to find.
It also feels kind of random to me that they only make their 97a wheel for Conical Fulls and Classics. I know its because they are the most popular shapes. Conical Fulls make complete sense, but is there really a market for slim soft wheels? It seems a bit counter intuitive.
Seems like Conical Full and Radial Full would be the shapes to give the 97a treatment to. If you are stepping down to 97a, you are probably skating some CRUSTY streets that would benefit from a wide wheel too. A thin 97a just seems like the worst of both worlds, right?[close]
Yes, exactly. I really want to try some 52mm or 53mm Conical's. But I just got some new 53mm OG Classics and have to get used to them.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI really believe if Spit released more regular Radials that that shape would be higher up in the popularity polls[close]
Yeah, everywhere is overstocked with Classics of every size, and hardness. Conical Fulls are usually available but certain hardness and sizes are missing (because they're so popular). Tablets are usually the random third option these days, while pretty much every other shape is a crap shoot. Its weird though, it doesn't seem like the tablets have a massive following. I don't think many people hate them, but I don't know if they are many peoples' first choice?
It seems like people who care about wheel shape outside of the main two tend to like Conical (regular) and Radial Slims yet they're both impossible to find.
It also feels kind of random to me that they only make their 97a wheel for Conical Fulls and Classics. I know its because they are the most popular shapes. Conical Fulls make complete sense, but is there really a market for slim soft wheels? It seems a bit counter intuitive.
Seems like Conical Full and Radial Full would be the shapes to give the 97a treatment to. If you are stepping down to 97a, you are probably skating some CRUSTY streets that would benefit from a wide wheel too. A thin 97a just seems like the worst of both worlds, right?[close]
Yes, exactly. I really want to try some 52mm or 53mm Conical's. But I just got some new 53mm OG Classics and have to get used to them.[close]
I'm on some 52 conicals now and I'm really liking them. They slide well but don't look super wide the way conical fulls do? Those really wide surface area wheels sort of spin me out mentally. Still waiting to find a perfect set of radials that I've convinced myself are my goldilocks wheel...
any of you guys find something weird about the coloured f4? i got the black classic fulls and they just feel off compared to undyed f4.
Expand Quoteany of you guys find something weird about the coloured f4? i got the black classic fulls and they just feel off compared to undyed f4.[close]
I can't ride colored wheels. I'm so desperate for radials and Spit is only releasing them in colors lately which is fucking me up. More power to people who can ride them but they aren't for me. Potato only.
Expand QuoteExpand Quoteany of you guys find something weird about the coloured f4? i got the black classic fulls and they just feel off compared to undyed f4.[close]
I can't ride colored wheels. I'm so desperate for radials and Spit is only releasing them in colors lately which is fucking me up. More power to people who can ride them but they aren't for me. Potato only.[close]
Not sure what size you’re looking for - the Oski radials in 55 and 57 mm seem to be pretty readily available (at least in the states). I just picked up a set of the 55s for the spring/summer.
Does anyone from DLX still lurk these boards?
If you’re here, make normal fucking radials SLIM in a good range of sizes, you can still make the Skate Like A Girl colours but people want potato wheels dammit
any of you guys find something weird about the coloured f4? i got the black classic fulls and they just feel off compared to undyed f4.mine felt a tad softer, and honestly better.
Question(s) for all the "classic full" enthusiasts:I have in my head that the idea behind these is that they are a skated down version of their 2mm larger classic version, like the 54mm classic full is like a skated down 56mm classic, but I admit it can't be right because these will get even wider still once they are skated down.
How do you find they compare to regular classics?
Looking at the specs for the 52mm, it appears the fulls are only 1mm wider but have a decently wider contact patch.
Is there any noticeable difference in weight and performance?
I like the way wider wheels look and feel but I'm also noticing my pop diminishing a bit lately (I'm 34).
I have in my head that the idea behind these is that they are a skated down version of their 2mm larger classic version, like the 54mm classic full is like a skated down 56mm classic, but I admit it can't be right because these will get even wider still once they are skated down.Expand QuoteQuestion(s) for all the "classic full" enthusiasts:
How do you find they compare to regular classics?
Looking at the specs for the 52mm, it appears the fulls are only 1mm wider but have a decently wider contact patch.
Is there any noticeable difference in weight and performance?
I like the way wider wheels look and feel but I'm also noticing my pop diminishing a bit lately (I'm 34).[close]
Expand QuoteI have in my head that the idea behind these is that they are a skated down version of their 2mm larger classic version, like the 54mm classic full is like a skated down 56mm classic, but I admit it can't be right because these will get even wider still once they are skated down.Expand QuoteQuestion(s) for all the "classic full" enthusiasts:
How do you find they compare to regular classics?
Looking at the specs for the 52mm, it appears the fulls are only 1mm wider but have a decently wider contact patch.
Is there any noticeable difference in weight and performance?
I like the way wider wheels look and feel but I'm also noticing my pop diminishing a bit lately (I'm 34).[close][close]
This is it. A 52 full is just a broken in 53 without the break in. It’s a glorious shape.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI have in my head that the idea behind these is that they are a skated down version of their 2mm larger classic version, like the 54mm classic full is like a skated down 56mm classic, but I admit it can't be right because these will get even wider still once they are skated down.Expand QuoteQuestion(s) for all the "classic full" enthusiasts:
How do you find they compare to regular classics?
Looking at the specs for the 52mm, it appears the fulls are only 1mm wider but have a decently wider contact patch.
Is there any noticeable difference in weight and performance?
I like the way wider wheels look and feel but I'm also noticing my pop diminishing a bit lately (I'm 34).[close][close]
This is it. A 52 full is just a broken in 53 without the break in. It’s a glorious shape.[close]
Thanks, I think I know what I need to do.
What happened to classic fulls? I just want a fatter classic and the OG Classic is not that, has less taper
mine felt a tad softer, and honestly better.Expand Quoteany of you guys find something weird about the coloured f4? i got the black classic fulls and they just feel off compared to undyed f4.[close]
Expand Quotemine felt a tad softer, and honestly better.Expand Quoteany of you guys find something weird about the coloured f4? i got the black classic fulls and they just feel off compared to undyed f4.[close][close]
I was told a long time ago that the dye they use to make any wheel colored is going to have an effect on the recipe of the wheel, and will most likely be noticeably harder/softer than even other dyes.
I am super thankful that I listened to your advise to get 54 classic. I prefer smaller wheels like 51-52, but the worn down classics to these dimenssions are just perfect street wheels that can be used both for tech sk8ing and also on some rougher ground.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI have in my head that the idea behind these is that they are a skated down version of their 2mm larger classic version, like the 54mm classic full is like a skated down 56mm classic, but I admit it can't be right because these will get even wider still once they are skated down.Expand QuoteQuestion(s) for all the "classic full" enthusiasts:
How do you find they compare to regular classics?
Looking at the specs for the 52mm, it appears the fulls are only 1mm wider but have a decently wider contact patch.
Is there any noticeable difference in weight and performance?
I like the way wider wheels look and feel but I'm also noticing my pop diminishing a bit lately (I'm 34).[close][close]
This is it. A 52 full is just a broken in 53 without the break in. It’s a glorious shape.[close]
Thanks, I think I know what I need to do.[close]Expand QuoteWhat happened to classic fulls? I just want a fatter classic and the OG Classic is not that, has less taper[close]
That is pretty much all correct to what I find with the wheels and a big yes from me for Classic Full shaped wheels.
One or two mm up in size for a Classic shape does wear down nicely to a good Classic Full type of wheel.
Even to the point of getting 54mm Classic wheels to skate on one setup for bigger / go faster stuff, then have another setup for more tech stuff when they get down a bit to 52mm or less.
I feel like Classics are the only wheel that I can happily skate if needed from 56mm or even 58mm down to almost 50mm without having to take the sharp edges off with a grinder, as I do with Conical Full or other styles that I get back from trades from people upgrading.
Classic Full wheels when available are just the wider version of the Classics, but at times are a difficult wheel to find, due to only releasing them for specific runs in very limited sizes, eg the last 56 and 58mm versions for the Grosso wheel and then the 54, 56 and 58mm Lance Mountain wheel were very popular back in 2019 to 2020, then I don't recall many besides the Ransom graphic 2020 / 2021 since then, but now the Repeater in 52 and 54mm in natural and 53mm in black in 2022.
When you get up into the bigger sizes, they are very wide, but for most people who want something more around the 52 to 54mm sizes, at least there are still normal Classics which wear down nicely as well.
Because the Classic shape is so rounded, they still retain some roundness to the edge even when they wear down a lot, which does mean they skate better overall for many people too.
Everyone has their own preference of wheel, so I am not trying to change any minds if you have your own thoughts that differ, but from skating pretty much all the shapes and seeing all of them at the end of their life, not just at the beginning, Classics tend to fare the best overall with less issues, chipping, sharp edges, etc.
I guess that is why they are called the "Number one wheel shape in skateboarding" or something to that effect.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI have in my head that the idea behind these is that they are a skated down version of their 2mm larger classic version, like the 54mm classic full is like a skated down 56mm classic, but I admit it can't be right because these will get even wider still once they are skated down.Expand QuoteQuestion(s) for all the "classic full" enthusiasts:
How do you find they compare to regular classics?
Looking at the specs for the 52mm, it appears the fulls are only 1mm wider but have a decently wider contact patch.
Is there any noticeable difference in weight and performance?
I like the way wider wheels look and feel but I'm also noticing my pop diminishing a bit lately (I'm 34).[close][close]
This is it. A 52 full is just a broken in 53 without the break in. It’s a glorious shape.[close]
Thanks, I think I know what I need to do.[close]Expand QuoteWhat happened to classic fulls? I just want a fatter classic and the OG Classic is not that, has less taper[close]
That is pretty much all correct to what I find with the wheels and a big yes from me for Classic Full shaped wheels.
One or two mm up in size for a Classic shape does wear down nicely to a good Classic Full type of wheel.
Even to the point of getting 54mm Classic wheels to skate on one setup for bigger / go faster stuff, then have another setup for more tech stuff when they get down a bit to 52mm or less.
I feel like Classics are the only wheel that I can happily skate if needed from 56mm or even 58mm down to almost 50mm without having to take the sharp edges off with a grinder, as I do with Conical Full or other styles that I get back from trades from people upgrading.
Classic Full wheels when available are just the wider version of the Classics, but at times are a difficult wheel to find, due to only releasing them for specific runs in very limited sizes, eg the last 56 and 58mm versions for the Grosso wheel and then the 54, 56 and 58mm Lance Mountain wheel were very popular back in 2019 to 2020, then I don't recall many besides the Ransom graphic 2020 / 2021 since then, but now the Repeater in 52 and 54mm in natural and 53mm in black in 2022.
When you get up into the bigger sizes, they are very wide, but for most people who want something more around the 52 to 54mm sizes, at least there are still normal Classics which wear down nicely as well.
Because the Classic shape is so rounded, they still retain some roundness to the edge even when they wear down a lot, which does mean they skate better overall for many people too.
Everyone has their own preference of wheel, so I am not trying to change any minds if you have your own thoughts that differ, but from skating pretty much all the shapes and seeing all of them at the end of their life, not just at the beginning, Classics tend to fare the best overall with less issues, chipping, sharp edges, etc.
I guess that is why they are called the "Number one wheel shape in skateboarding" or something to that effect.
I have to say i'm impressed by all of you that can consistently skate the classic shape. This is now the third time i've bought classics and within a month gone back to conical shape wheels. I skate both street and transition and for both I just cannot do narrow contact patch - i'll slide out on backside flips and feel like i'm not hanging on in corners well enough.
Definitely time to give up the ghost on the classic shape for me.
Switched back to the 97a conical full I have and they are dreamy and somehow have the best powerslide of any wheel I have!
Expand QuoteI have to say i'm impressed by all of you that can consistently skate the classic shape. This is now the third time i've bought classics and within a month gone back to conical shape wheels. I skate both street and transition and for both I just cannot do narrow contact patch - i'll slide out on backside flips and feel like i'm not hanging on in corners well enough.
Definitely time to give up the ghost on the classic shape for me.
Switched back to the 97a conical full I have and they are dreamy and somehow have the best powerslide of any wheel I have![close]
I'm considering grabbing another 97a Conical Full too. It's just so crusty here. Hopefully they keep improving the 97a formula and give it some more shapes. The wheels are noticably slower, and personally slide like shit for me, but I can't deny how much better they handle shitty terrain than 99a. I wonder why they slide so much better for you.
I've got some STF 99a on the back burner to try. But if those can't handle the crust better than 99a F4 then I might have to reluctantly go back to 97a for any local skating.
mine felt a tad softer, and honestly better.Expand Quoteany of you guys find something weird about the coloured f4? i got the black classic fulls and they just feel off compared to undyed f4.[close]
I have to say i'm impressed by all of you that can consistently skate the classic shape. This is now the third time i've bought classics and within a month gone back to conical shape wheels. I skate both street and transition and for both I just cannot do narrow contact patch - i'll slide out on backside flips and feel like i'm not hanging on in corners well enough.
Definitely time to give up the ghost on the classic shape for me.
Switched back to the 97a conical full I have and they are dreamy and somehow have the best powerslide of any wheel I have!
Expand QuoteI have to say i'm impressed by all of you that can consistently skate the classic shape. This is now the third time i've bought classics and within a month gone back to conical shape wheels. I skate both street and transition and for both I just cannot do narrow contact patch - i'll slide out on backside flips and feel like i'm not hanging on in corners well enough.
Definitely time to give up the ghost on the classic shape for me.
Switched back to the 97a conical full I have and they are dreamy and somehow have the best powerslide of any wheel I have![close]
I'm considering grabbing another 97a Conical Full too. It's just so crusty here. Hopefully they keep improving the 97a formula and give it some more shapes. The wheels are noticably slower, and personally slide like shit for me, but I can't deny how much better they handle shitty terrain than 99a.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI have to say i'm impressed by all of you that can consistently skate the classic shape. This is now the third time i've bought classics and within a month gone back to conical shape wheels. I skate both street and transition and for both I just cannot do narrow contact patch - i'll slide out on backside flips and feel like i'm not hanging on in corners well enough.
Definitely time to give up the ghost on the classic shape for me.
Switched back to the 97a conical full I have and they are dreamy and somehow have the best powerslide of any wheel I have![close]
I'm considering grabbing another 97a Conical Full too. It's just so crusty here. Hopefully they keep improving the 97a formula and give it some more shapes. The wheels are noticably slower, and personally slide like shit for me, but I can't deny how much better they handle shitty terrain than 99a.[close]
This has been the case for me, skating in the PNW. Skating the 97a, I experience significantly less fatigue after a day of skating parking lots and sidewalks than I get with 99 or 101a. There are some spots I can skate where my friends cannot because their wheels are too small or too hard.
Need a 56mm 101s in a shape in between a Classic and Conical Full to replace the NFG Vee 56.
Expand QuoteNeed a 56mm 101s in a shape in between a Classic and Conical Full to replace the NFG Vee 56.[close]
Sounds like Bones STF V5 to me. Maybe Spitfire Conical (non-Full) or Radial Slims, but V5's sound closest to your description.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteNeed a 56mm 101s in a shape in between a Classic and Conical Full to replace the NFG Vee 56.[close]
Sounds like Bones STF V5 to me. Maybe Spitfire Conical (non-Full) or Radial Slims, but V5's sound closest to your description.[close]
Conical is the right answer, 56mm are just coming back into rotation but in 99a (yellow) from what I've seen.
Got a set of OG Classics and all four wobble, one being really noticeable and is dragging the bearings. Is it worth waiting for a warranty? Just checked the 97a conicals I've had for a while and they wobble too but not as bad as the new OG's, guess I didn't notice or care when I set them up.
Expand QuoteGot a set of OG Classics and all four wobble, one being really noticeable and is dragging the bearings. Is it worth waiting for a warranty? Just checked the 97a conicals I've had for a while and they wobble too but not as bad as the new OG's, guess I didn't notice or care when I set them up.[close]
I'm also having really bad wobble on a new set of radials, only a single wheel. Spitfire ignored my warranty claims (sent 2, a week apart) and instagram messages for 2 weeks so far. These things are stupid expensive in europe so I'm not gonna cut them any slack for this shit
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteGot a set of OG Classics and all four wobble, one being really noticeable and is dragging the bearings. Is it worth waiting for a warranty? Just checked the 97a conicals I've had for a while and they wobble too but not as bad as the new OG's, guess I didn't notice or care when I set them up.[close]
I'm also having really bad wobble on a new set of radials, only a single wheel. Spitfire ignored my warranty claims (sent 2, a week apart) and instagram messages for 2 weeks so far. These things are stupid expensive in europe so I'm not gonna cut them any slack for this shit[close]
Are you guys using the spacers and a bearing press?
Same, gave up on spacers when different sets wouldn't fit Spit or NFG. They'd make the opposite side bearing pop out slightly. Spacers were too narrow for OJs. Bearing press didn't help the wobble on an NFG.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteGot a set of OG Classics and all four wobble, one being really noticeable and is dragging the bearings. Is it worth waiting for a warranty? Just checked the 97a conicals I've had for a while and they wobble too but not as bad as the new OG's, guess I didn't notice or care when I set them up.[close]
I'm also having really bad wobble on a new set of radials, only a single wheel. Spitfire ignored my warranty claims (sent 2, a week apart) and instagram messages for 2 weeks so far. These things are stupid expensive in europe so I'm not gonna cut them any slack for this shit[close]
Are you guys using the spacers and a bearing press?[close]
No spacers and I don't have a press. I've never had spitfires that actually fit spacers right
Expand QuoteGot a set of OG Classics and all four wobble, one being really noticeable and is dragging the bearings. Is it worth waiting for a warranty? Just checked the 97a conicals I've had for a while and they wobble too but not as bad as the new OG's, guess I didn't notice or care when I set them up.[close]
I'm also having really bad wobble on a new set of radials, only a single wheel. Spitfire ignored my warranty claims (sent 2, a week apart) and instagram messages for 2 weeks so far. These things are stupid expensive in europe so I'm not gonna cut them any slack for this shit
Expand QuoteGot a set of OG Classics and all four wobble, one being really noticeable and is dragging the bearings. Is it worth waiting for a warranty? Just checked the 97a conicals I've had for a while and they wobble too but not as bad as the new OG's, guess I didn't notice or care when I set them up.[close]
I'm also having really bad wobble on a new set of radials, only a single wheel. Spitfire ignored my warranty claims (sent 2, a week apart) and instagram messages for 2 weeks so far. These things are stupid expensive in europe so I'm not gonna cut them any slack for this shit
Got a set of OG Classics and all four wobble, one being really noticeable and is dragging the bearings. Is it worth waiting for a warranty? Just checked the 97a conicals I've had for a while and they wobble too but not as bad as the new OG's, guess I didn't notice or care when I set them up.
Expand QuoteGot a set of OG Classics and all four wobble, one being really noticeable and is dragging the bearings. Is it worth waiting for a warranty? Just checked the 97a conicals I've had for a while and they wobble too but not as bad as the new OG's, guess I didn't notice or care when I set them up.[close]
Had that same problem a few days ago. I put a bit of sunflower oil on a brush and smeared that inside the wheel. Then put an old bearing on my hanger and put the new bearings in the wheel. The bearings got in very easily and everything sits flush and no more wobble now.
The inside of new spitfire wheels can be a bit sticky sometimes. Oh and make sure to clean the wheels afterwards if you use some type of oil.
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Spring '22 Drop 2 Catalog is live
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Spring '22 Drop 2 Catalog is live
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Wish there was more radial action
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Wish there was more radial action
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How hard can it be, come on deluxe
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What do you guys think of the Radial Fulls as people who ride Radials?
i am floored by how much you can talk about radial fulls and 97a spitfires while simultaneously adding nothing to the conversationExpand QuoteExpand QuoteWhat do you guys think of the Radial Fulls as people who ride Radials?[close]
They remind me too much of mini cubics[close]
LOL. I hope you're joking.
Just so you know mini cubics are 64mm, 57mm wide, and have offset bearings. Radial fulls are basically just 56mm Conical Fulls but radial, only 39mm wide.
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Wish there was more radial action[close]
How hard can it be, come on deluxe[close]
What do you guys think of the Radial Fulls as people who ride Radials?
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The daily driver:
(https://i.imgur.com/yj7vlvxl.jpg)
8.3 SlaveZ
Indy 149 w/soft red bushings
F4 Radial 53mm 99d
Swiss
Expand QuoteThe daily driver:
(https://i.imgur.com/yj7vlvxl.jpg)
8.3 SlaveZ
Indy 149 w/soft red bushings
F4 Radial 53mm 99d
Swiss[close]
Reminiscing on radials in 53mm. I loved this setup from a few years ago. A 53 radial is all I’d skate, if possible. I got some of the 55 Oski ones recently and put them on my normal 8.3 board. Ended up not liking it. Timing on my landings felt off. All grinds felt like I had less truck to work with (149s). Pinch was terrible on crooks. I took them off after 2 weeks and put on some 52 classic fulls. Now these are working great. Amazing what a difference just a couple millimeters makes. I’ll end up putting the Oski’s on one of the bigger boards in my quiver.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteThe daily driver:
(https://i.imgur.com/yj7vlvxl.jpg)
8.3 SlaveZ
Indy 149 w/soft red bushings
F4 Radial 53mm 99d
Swiss[close]
Reminiscing on radials in 53mm. I loved this setup from a few years ago. A 53 radial is all I’d skate, if possible. I got some of the 55 Oski ones recently and put them on my normal 8.3 board. Ended up not liking it. Timing on my landings felt off. All grinds felt like I had less truck to work with (149s). Pinch was terrible on crooks. I took them off after 2 weeks and put on some 52 classic fulls. Now these are working great. Amazing what a difference just a couple millimeters makes. I’ll end up putting the Oski’s on one of the bigger boards in my quiver.[close]
This is a bummer because I convinced myself the Oski 55 radials were the wheel I needed since Spitfire doesn't seem to offer a 52-53 natural color radial. I'll still probably track some down and give them a shot, especially since the new drop has basically no radials.
Expand QuoteGot a set of OG Classics and all four wobble, one being really noticeable and is dragging the bearings. Is it worth waiting for a warranty? Just checked the 97a conicals I've had for a while and they wobble too but not as bad as the new OG's, guess I didn't notice or care when I set them up.[close]
Had that same problem a few days ago. I put a bit of sunflower oil on a brush and smeared that inside the wheel. Then put an old bearing on my hanger and put the new bearings in the wheel. The bearings got in very easily and everything sits flush and no more wobble now.
The inside of new spitfire wheels can be a bit sticky sometimes. Oh and make sure to clean the wheels afterwards if you use some type of oil.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteGot a set of OG Classics and all four wobble, one being really noticeable and is dragging the bearings. Is it worth waiting for a warranty? Just checked the 97a conicals I've had for a while and they wobble too but not as bad as the new OG's, guess I didn't notice or care when I set them up.[close]
Had that same problem a few days ago. I put a bit of sunflower oil on a brush and smeared that inside the wheel. Then put an old bearing on my hanger and put the new bearings in the wheel. The bearings got in very easily and everything sits flush and no more wobble now.
The inside of new spitfire wheels can be a bit sticky sometimes. Oh and make sure to clean the wheels afterwards if you use some type of oil.[close]
This just saved my day!
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Spring '22 Drop 2 Catalog is live[close]
Wish there was more radial action[close]
Wish there was more radial slim action
101 radials in 52 54 58 this fall...
black tho :-[
lock ins 99 returning finally too
Put the Oski Formula four 55mm radials on my board, first session was good. Between the sort of “mid” size and shape, it feels like a good do it all wheel. Hit some slappies, wheels felt like they were locking in.
Really don’t understand why spitfire isn’t producing more radial options.
Expand QuotePut the Oski Formula four 55mm radials on my board, first session was good. Between the sort of “mid” size and shape, it feels like a good do it all wheel. Hit some slappies, wheels felt like they were locking in.
Really don’t understand why spitfire isn’t producing more radial options.[close]
Skating the same wheels right now and loving them. I think they’re probably the best all-purpose Spitfire shape. I’m on the road to going back to skating the classic shape after a couple years on wider wheels and these have seamlessly bridged the gap.
Classic Fulls please. Have the 52 and 54 best all around shape.
Classic Fulls please. Have the 52 and 54 best all around shape.no classic fulls scheduled for this summer or fall prebooks so far, so stock up while theres some sets of the repeaters ones floating around
What do you guys like shape wise for transition? Not talking vert, but like mini, bowl, diy stuff. i’ve literally skated only formula 4 classic 55s for the last 3 years. i’m pretty set on the size, but interested in the benefit of a different wheel shape.
Expand QuoteThere are almost too many options if people are not sure, but the rounder edge will be easier on everything and not stick so much when on coping or edges the way the Conical Full and squared shapes tend to do [...].Expand QuoteWhat shape for 99s? I got conical fulls in 56mm/97a for the slippery indoor park and street crust but need something faster and maybe lighter on good concrete parks[close][close]
I feel conical/square vs. rounded on coping is the most noticeable difference between the shapes. Personally, I prefer the solid lock in of Conical Fulls over Classics when skating transition. My grinds are noticeably faster and longer with Classics, however I need to focus on locking in much more and still wipe out from time to time. Therefore my confidence to go faster in the first place is higher with Conical Fulls.
What do you guys like shape wise for transition? Not talking vert, but like mini, bowl, diy stuff. i’ve literally skated only formula 4 classic 55s for the last 3 years. i’m pretty set on the size, but interested in the benefit of a different wheel shape.
What do you guys like shape wise for transition? Not talking vert, but like mini, bowl, diy stuff. i’ve literally skated only formula 4 classic 55s for the last 3 years. i’m pretty set on the size, but interested in the benefit of a different wheel shape.
What do you guys like shape wise for transition? Not talking vert, but like mini, bowl, diy stuff. i’ve literally skated only formula 4 classic 55s for the last 3 years. i’m pretty set on the size, but interested in the benefit of a different wheel shape.
What do you guys like shape wise for transition? Not talking vert, but like mini, bowl, diy stuff. i’ve literally skated only formula 4 classic 55s for the last 3 years. i’m pretty set on the size, but interested in the benefit of a different wheel shape.
What do you guys like shape wise for transition? Not talking vert, but like mini, bowl, diy stuff. i’ve literally skated only formula 4 classic 55s for the last 3 years. i’m pretty set on the size, but interested in the benefit of a different wheel shape.
damn, Spitfire got no love for the small wheel skaters, 51mm is the smallest they've got and that's a one-model rollover from last catalog. Don't they know curb skating is hot right now?
damn, Spitfire got no love for the small wheel skaters, 51mm is the smallest they've got and that's a one-model rollover from last catalog. Don't they know curb skating is hot right now?
Expand Quotedamn, Spitfire got no love for the small wheel skaters, 51mm is the smallest they've got and that's a one-model rollover from last catalog. Don't they know curb skating is hot right now?[close]
What’s the advantage of a smaller wheel for curb skating? I’ve been skating a lot more curbs lately and started wanting to go down to 52mm (coming from a 54-55). Not sure why I’m wanting to go smaller, just instinctively I guess.
Expand QuoteExpand Quotedamn, Spitfire got no love for the small wheel skaters, 51mm is the smallest they've got and that's a one-model rollover from last catalog. Don't they know curb skating is hot right now?[close]
What’s the advantage of a smaller wheel for curb skating? I’ve been skating a lot more curbs lately and started wanting to go down to 52mm (coming from a 54-55). Not sure why I’m wanting to go smaller, just instinctively I guess.[close]
Less wheel usually means more hanger.
Expand QuoteExpand Quotedamn, Spitfire got no love for the small wheel skaters, 51mm is the smallest they've got and that's a one-model rollover from last catalog. Don't they know curb skating is hot right now?[close]
What’s the advantage of a smaller wheel for curb skating? I’ve been skating a lot more curbs lately and started wanting to go down to 52mm (coming from a 54-55). Not sure why I’m wanting to go smaller, just instinctively I guess.[close]
Less wheel usually means more hanger.
these are long gone anywhere in the US thoLil Smokies are F4 and are available in 48-50 mm.Expand Quotedamn, Spitfire got no love for the small wheel skaters, 51mm is the smallest they've got and that's a one-model rollover from last catalog. Don't they know curb skating is hot right now?[close]
I don't know about any actual functional advantage of small wheels and curb skating, I was just referring to the concept of small wheels being the predominant style when curb skating was also at it's peak in the early-mid-90s. I personally prefer small wheels because they limit the weight on my otherwise oversized/overweight setup (8.75/159s) and if i'm just skating curbs I'm not really looking for maximum speed. Edit: and yeah, I love a noseslide/nosegrind combo so I guess smaller wheels help with thatExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quotedamn, Spitfire got no love for the small wheel skaters, 51mm is the smallest they've got and that's a one-model rollover from last catalog. Don't they know curb skating is hot right now?[close]
What’s the advantage of a smaller wheel for curb skating? I’ve been skating a lot more curbs lately and started wanting to go down to 52mm (coming from a 54-55). Not sure why I’m wanting to go smaller, just instinctively I guess.[close]
Less wheel usually means more hanger.[close]
There are skinny wheels with large diameters, and vice versa. I'm guessing this person prefers small diameter to get in and out of locks easier? Maybe for more sorta "curb dancing" type skating where you are going between different grind locks? Who knows...
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quotedamn, Spitfire got no love for the small wheel skaters, 51mm is the smallest they've got and that's a one-model rollover from last catalog. Don't they know curb skating is hot right now?[close]
What’s the advantage of a smaller wheel for curb skating? I’ve been skating a lot more curbs lately and started wanting to go down to 52mm (coming from a 54-55). Not sure why I’m wanting to go smaller, just instinctively I guess.[close]
Less wheel usually means more hanger.[close]
There are skinny wheels with large diameters, and vice versa. I'm guessing this person prefers small diameter to get in and out of locks easier? Maybe for more sorta "curb dancing" type skating where you are going between different grind locks? Who knows...
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quotedamn, Spitfire got no love for the small wheel skaters, 51mm is the smallest they've got and that's a one-model rollover from last catalog. Don't they know curb skating is hot right now?[close]
What’s the advantage of a smaller wheel for curb skating? I’ve been skating a lot more curbs lately and started wanting to go down to 52mm (coming from a 54-55). Not sure why I’m wanting to go smaller, just instinctively I guess.[close]
Less wheel usually means more hanger.[close]
There are skinny wheels with large diameters, and vice versa. I'm guessing this person prefers small diameter to get in and out of locks easier? Maybe for more sorta "curb dancing" type skating where you are going between different grind locks? Who knows...[close]
Easy curb shuffle has been my understanding. Maybe more clearance for board/tail/nose slides on lower curbs too?
(https://i.ibb.co/xSdfKvZ/5-BFCD1-C1-C92-B-4-CD2-B267-B6989-BC7698-C.jpg) (https://ibb.co/xSdfKvZ)
After testing on a set of factory second NFG’s, the next time I need new wheels I’m just going to get conical fulls in the right diameter and shave the edges down with an angle grinder
Alright. Radial Fulls F4 56mm 99a.
After skating them for a couple weeks now, I'm realizing they are just a bit too bulky and heavy. I think the wheel would fill a better niche if they were 97a instead of 99a. As it is, its a huge bulky wheel that still struggles with crusty streets, which is my main gripe. Not quite the ATV wheels I was hoping for.
I thought the pure massiveness would help overcome its hardness on crusty streets, but I was wrong. The streets my F4 97a and STF 99a can handle, these things can't. Its more a complaint about F4 99a (and my neighborhood) than anything, but I just wanted to give a heads up. Its just frustrating how often I find myself walking board in hand because they can't handle the streets my other wheels can.
I do love the confidence they give me for riding up/over things. They've done a great job in regards to cracks, riding up curbs, and skating weirdly shaped shit... any "obstacles" aside from bumpy streets. It feels like I've got monster truck wheels at times which definitely instills confidence to just go for shit.
They're really nice on smooth terrain. I think my favorite thing about them is I'm rarely afraid of them slipping out, but they still have a controllable slide for practical purposes. I feel confident they won't slip out on me while hill bombing, yet they're not too grippy to revert and speed check.
Not a bad wheel at all but compared to the excitement I had, I'm feeling a bit let down. On top of this, one of the wheels has a bit of a lateral wobble, which I've heard other people complain about with this batch. Maybe the bearing holes aren't sized properly or something, I'm not sure. I've also had a couple chunks come out of the wheel just from pebbles, which I didn't know happened to 99a+ wheels? One of them is a small/medium chunk that is fairly deep on the riding surface. Definitely the biggest chunk I've had in a wheel. Not even my softer F4 97a Conical Full ever chunked like this.
+ Can skate confidently due to shape and riding patch width. Feels like monster truck wheels in a good way
+ Good grip but still slide
+/- These things are massive, definitely the largest street wheel I've skated (or seen in person)
+/- Can extend the width of your trucks by a bit if you throw on an extra washer or two on the inside of the wheels.
- Bulky and heavy
- Despite size, aren't going to handle shitty streets very well
- QC issues and chunking?
8/10. I'd probably rate them higher if I wasn't living somewhere with such shitty streets. Good wheel, but they are definitely wider and heavier than Conical Fulls. Keep in mind these are not only wider, but also have a convex side slightly adding weight rather than a concave conical cut side slightly reducing weight. The radial shape has many benefits, but its worth keeping in mind that slight weight difference since we're talking about a wheel that is so wide and tall.
I have my eyes on some OG Classics next time around. I'm going to push my luck with wheelbite and try the 58mm. Definitely seems like it will be a more manageable wheel shape without the diminishing returns of bulk and weight that a Radial wheel gives you.
Expand QuoteAlright. Radial Fulls F4 56mm 99a.
After skating them for a couple weeks now, I'm realizing they are just a bit too bulky and heavy. I think the wheel would fill a better niche if they were 97a instead of 99a. As it is, its a huge bulky wheel that still struggles with crusty streets, which is my main gripe. Not quite the ATV wheels I was hoping for.
I thought the pure massiveness would help overcome its hardness on crusty streets, but I was wrong. The streets my F4 97a and STF 99a can handle, these things can't. Its more a complaint about F4 99a (and my neighborhood) than anything, but I just wanted to give a heads up. Its just frustrating how often I find myself walking board in hand because they can't handle the streets my other wheels can.
I do love the confidence they give me for riding up/over things. They've done a great job in regards to cracks, riding up curbs, and skating weirdly shaped shit... any "obstacles" aside from bumpy streets. It feels like I've got monster truck wheels at times which definitely instills confidence to just go for shit.
They're really nice on smooth terrain. I think my favorite thing about them is I'm rarely afraid of them slipping out, but they still have a controllable slide for practical purposes. I feel confident they won't slip out on me while hill bombing, yet they're not too grippy to revert and speed check.
Not a bad wheel at all but compared to the excitement I had, I'm feeling a bit let down. On top of this, one of the wheels has a bit of a lateral wobble, which I've heard other people complain about with this batch. Maybe the bearing holes aren't sized properly or something, I'm not sure. I've also had a couple chunks come out of the wheel just from pebbles, which I didn't know happened to 99a+ wheels? One of them is a small/medium chunk that is fairly deep on the riding surface. Definitely the biggest chunk I've had in a wheel. Not even my softer F4 97a Conical Full ever chunked like this.
+ Can skate confidently due to shape and riding patch width. Feels like monster truck wheels in a good way
+ Good grip but still slide
+/- These things are massive, definitely the largest street wheel I've skated (or seen in person)
+/- Can extend the width of your trucks by a bit if you throw on an extra washer or two on the inside of the wheels.
- Bulky and heavy
- Despite size, aren't going to handle shitty streets very well
- QC issues and chunking?
8/10. I'd probably rate them higher if I wasn't living somewhere with such shitty streets. Good wheel, but they are definitely wider and heavier than Conical Fulls. Keep in mind these are not only wider, but also have a convex side slightly adding weight rather than a concave conical cut side slightly reducing weight. The radial shape has many benefits, but its worth keeping in mind that slight weight difference since we're talking about a wheel that is so wide and tall.
I have my eyes on some OG Classics next time around. I'm going to push my luck with wheelbite and try the 58mm. Definitely seems like it will be a more manageable wheel shape without the diminishing returns of bulk and weight that a Radial wheel gives you.[close]
Nice review. Skated the radial fulls for two or three months and feel pretty similar. I thought they felt good riding (very fast feel) and both rolled up into slappies and locked into grinds well. I retired them figuring that they’re going to continue to widen as they wear down to a certain extent so I feel like they’re not a good long term wheel to commit to for an entire year or so cause you’ll end up with an insanely wide but small wheel. I grabbed some regular radials in a smaller size and plan to skate those for a while figuring they’ll wear into a nice shape over time.
In terms of the OG classics, other than looking cool I don’t think they are necessarily better at anything than Conical Fulls. They aren’t as wide as conical fulls (AFAIK) and are a little less rounded so they seem less versatile. I had the 58s last year. Certainly not a bad wheel but I’m not sure what niche they fill. They do look sick though - especially seeing T-Funk skate them in footage.
Alright. Radial Fulls F4 56mm 99a.
After skating them for a couple weeks now, I'm realizing they are just a bit too bulky and heavy. I think the wheel would fill a better niche if they were 97a instead of 99a. As it is, its a huge bulky wheel that still struggles with crusty streets, which is my main gripe. Not quite the ATV wheels I was hoping for.
I thought the pure massiveness would help overcome its hardness on crusty streets, but I was wrong. The streets my F4 97a and STF 99a can handle, these things can't. Its more a complaint about F4 99a (and my neighborhood) than anything, but I just wanted to give a heads up. Its just frustrating how often I find myself walking board in hand because they can't handle the streets my other wheels can.
I do love the confidence they give me for riding up/over things. They've done a great job in regards to cracks, riding up curbs, and skating weirdly shaped shit... any "obstacles" aside from bumpy streets. It feels like I've got monster truck wheels at times which definitely instills confidence to just go for shit.
They're really nice on smooth terrain. I think my favorite thing about them is I'm rarely afraid of them slipping out, but they still have a controllable slide for practical purposes. I feel confident they won't slip out on me while hill bombing, yet they're not too grippy to revert and speed check.
Not a bad wheel at all but compared to the excitement I had, I'm feeling a bit let down. On top of this, one of the wheels has a bit of a lateral wobble, which I've heard other people complain about with this batch. Maybe the bearing holes aren't sized properly or something, I'm not sure. I've also had a couple chunks come out of the wheel just from pebbles, which I didn't know happened to 99a+ wheels? One of them is a small/medium chunk that is fairly deep on the riding surface. Definitely the biggest chunk I've had in a wheel. Not even my softer F4 97a Conical Full ever chunked like this.
+ Can skate confidently due to shape and riding patch width. Feels like monster truck wheels in a good way
+ Good grip but still slide
+/- These things are massive, definitely the largest street wheel I've skated (or seen in person)
+/- Can extend the width of your trucks by a bit if you throw on an extra washer or two on the inside of the wheels.
- Bulky and heavy
- Despite size, aren't going to handle shitty streets very well
- QC issues and chunking?
8/10. I'd probably rate them higher if I wasn't living somewhere with such shitty streets. Good wheel, but they are definitely wider and heavier than Conical Fulls. Keep in mind these are not only wider, but also have a convex side slightly adding weight rather than a concave conical cut side slightly reducing weight. The radial shape has many benefits, but its worth keeping in mind that slight weight difference since we're talking about a wheel that is so wide and tall.
I have my eyes on some OG Classics next time around. I'm going to push my luck with wheelbite and try the 58mm. Definitely seems like it will be a more manageable wheel shape without the diminishing returns of bulk and weight that a Radial wheel gives you.
Alright. Radial Fulls F4 56mm 99a.
After skating them for a couple weeks now, I'm realizing they are just a bit too bulky and heavy. I think the wheel would fill a better niche if they were 97a instead of 99a. As it is, its a huge bulky wheel that still struggles with crusty streets, which is my main gripe. Not quite the ATV wheels I was hoping for.
I thought the pure massiveness would help overcome its hardness on crusty streets, but I was wrong. The streets my F4 97a and STF 99a can handle, these things can't. Its more a complaint about F4 99a (and my neighborhood) than anything, but I just wanted to give a heads up. Its just frustrating how often I find myself walking board in hand because they can't handle the streets my other wheels can.
I do love the confidence they give me for riding up/over things. They've done a great job in regards to cracks, riding up curbs, and skating weirdly shaped shit... any "obstacles" aside from bumpy streets. It feels like I've got monster truck wheels at times which definitely instills confidence to just go for shit.
They're really nice on smooth terrain. I think my favorite thing about them is I'm rarely afraid of them slipping out, but they still have a controllable slide for practical purposes. I feel confident they won't slip out on me while hill bombing, yet they're not too grippy to revert and speed check.
Not a bad wheel at all but compared to the excitement I had, I'm feeling a bit let down. On top of this, one of the wheels has a bit of a lateral wobble, which I've heard other people complain about with this batch. Maybe the bearing holes aren't sized properly or something, I'm not sure. I've also had a couple chunks come out of the wheel just from pebbles, which I didn't know happened to 99a+ wheels? One of them is a small/medium chunk that is fairly deep on the riding surface. Definitely the biggest chunk I've had in a wheel. Not even my softer F4 97a Conical Full ever chunked like this.
+ Can skate confidently due to shape and riding patch width. Feels like monster truck wheels in a good way
+ Good grip but still slide
+/- These things are massive, definitely the largest street wheel I've skated (or seen in person)
+/- Can extend the width of your trucks by a bit if you throw on an extra washer or two on the inside of the wheels.
- Bulky and heavy
- Despite size, aren't going to handle shitty streets very well
- QC issues and chunking?
8/10. I'd probably rate them higher if I wasn't living somewhere with such shitty streets. Good wheel, but they are definitely wider and heavier than Conical Fulls. Keep in mind these are not only wider, but also have a convex side slightly adding weight rather than a concave conical cut side slightly reducing weight. The radial shape has many benefits, but its worth keeping in mind that slight weight difference since we're talking about a wheel that is so wide and tall.
I have my eyes on some OG Classics next time around. I'm going to push my luck with wheelbite and try the 58mm. Definitely seems like it will be a more manageable wheel shape without the diminishing returns of bulk and weight that a Radial wheel gives you.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteAlright. Radial Fulls F4 56mm 99a.
After skating them for a couple weeks now, I'm realizing they are just a bit too bulky and heavy. I think the wheel would fill a better niche if they were 97a instead of 99a. As it is, its a huge bulky wheel that still struggles with crusty streets, which is my main gripe. Not quite the ATV wheels I was hoping for.
I thought the pure massiveness would help overcome its hardness on crusty streets, but I was wrong. The streets my F4 97a and STF 99a can handle, these things can't. Its more a complaint about F4 99a (and my neighborhood) than anything, but I just wanted to give a heads up. Its just frustrating how often I find myself walking board in hand because they can't handle the streets my other wheels can.
I do love the confidence they give me for riding up/over things. They've done a great job in regards to cracks, riding up curbs, and skating weirdly shaped shit... any "obstacles" aside from bumpy streets. It feels like I've got monster truck wheels at times which definitely instills confidence to just go for shit.
They're really nice on smooth terrain. I think my favorite thing about them is I'm rarely afraid of them slipping out, but they still have a controllable slide for practical purposes. I feel confident they won't slip out on me while hill bombing, yet they're not too grippy to revert and speed check.
Not a bad wheel at all but compared to the excitement I had, I'm feeling a bit let down. On top of this, one of the wheels has a bit of a lateral wobble, which I've heard other people complain about with this batch. Maybe the bearing holes aren't sized properly or something, I'm not sure. I've also had a couple chunks come out of the wheel just from pebbles, which I didn't know happened to 99a+ wheels? One of them is a small/medium chunk that is fairly deep on the riding surface. Definitely the biggest chunk I've had in a wheel. Not even my softer F4 97a Conical Full ever chunked like this.
+ Can skate confidently due to shape and riding patch width. Feels like monster truck wheels in a good way
+ Good grip but still slide
+/- These things are massive, definitely the largest street wheel I've skated (or seen in person)
+/- Can extend the width of your trucks by a bit if you throw on an extra washer or two on the inside of the wheels.
- Bulky and heavy
- Despite size, aren't going to handle shitty streets very well
- QC issues and chunking?
8/10. I'd probably rate them higher if I wasn't living somewhere with such shitty streets. Good wheel, but they are definitely wider and heavier than Conical Fulls. Keep in mind these are not only wider, but also have a convex side slightly adding weight rather than a concave conical cut side slightly reducing weight. The radial shape has many benefits, but its worth keeping in mind that slight weight difference since we're talking about a wheel that is so wide and tall.
I have my eyes on some OG Classics next time around. I'm going to push my luck with wheelbite and try the 58mm. Definitely seems like it will be a more manageable wheel shape without the diminishing returns of bulk and weight that a Radial wheel gives you.[close]
Nice review. Skated the radial fulls for two or three months and feel pretty similar. I thought they felt good riding (very fast feel) and both rolled up into slappies and locked into grinds well. I retired them figuring that they’re going to continue to widen as they wear down to a certain extent so I feel like they’re not a good long term wheel to commit to for an entire year or so cause you’ll end up with an insanely wide but small wheel. I grabbed some regular radials in a smaller size and plan to skate those for a while figuring they’ll wear into a nice shape over time.
In terms of the OG classics, other than looking cool I don’t think they are necessarily better at anything than Conical Fulls. They aren’t as wide as conical fulls (AFAIK) and are a little less rounded so they seem less versatile. I had the 58s last year. Certainly not a bad wheel but I’m not sure what niche they fill. They do look sick though - especially seeing T-Funk skate them in footage.[close]
Ah thanks a ton, I appreciate your insight.
Yeah, T Funk even rides the red 60mm I noticed. I like looser trucks and don't want to raise my board any higher, so that's a no go for me. I might regret 58mm as is.
The OGs look so sick, but we seem to have similar taste in wheels, so I'll keep you words in mind. I could definitely see them losing their optimal shape a lot quicker than other shapes.
Did you find there was any benefits of the Radials over Conical Full or nah?
Are Classic fulls a continued shaped? I've recently put my Grosso Classic Fulls on, but I have a hard time sticking to something if I can't keep buying it.they are not in prebooks for summer or fall, so scoop some of the repeater ones while you can
Are Classic fulls a continued shaped? I've recently put my Grosso Classic Fulls on, but I have a hard time sticking to something if I can't keep buying it.
I have some old 54mm classic f4s That are about 52 now. Has anyone used a countersink tool to concave the side so it’s like a V5 or a conical? As long as I don’t go in far enough it doesn’t mess up wear the bearing seats it should be fine right?Sounds like alot of work when you could just buy v5s or conical wheels.
Also if it works I’m kinda debating on taking tablets.l and making a narrow lock in. Leave the inside of the tablet alone and on the out side counter sink it so it’s concave and then round the edges a bit. I have all the tools at work. I just gotta make some sort of jig to hold the wheels but also I can just use a drill press for the counter sink and be fine to I think. How dumb is this? @Mbrimson88 thoughts?
I have some old 54mm classic f4s That are about 52 now. Has anyone used a countersink tool to concave the side so it’s like a V5 or a conical? As long as I don’t go in far enough it doesn’t mess up wear the bearing seats it should be fine right?
Also if it works I’m kinda debating on taking tablets.l and making a narrow lock in. Leave the inside of the tablet alone and on the out side counter sink it so it’s concave and then round the edges a bit. I have all the tools at work. I just gotta make some sort of jig to hold the wheels but also I can just use a drill press for the counter sink and be fine to I think. How dumb is this? @Mbrimson88 thoughts?
Man, I could watch wheel lathing videos all day.
(https://i.ibb.co/x7rbXZk/7983-B0-FF-CA69-46-EA-8-EFF-1233-D2-CD879-E.jpg) (https://ibb.co/x7rbXZk)
(https://i.ibb.co/LrC04m9/8-CAD8575-D215-462-C-88-B5-E7-FB3-F49-E660.jpg) (https://ibb.co/LrC04m9)
I appear to have accidentally purchased the Spitfire Formula Zeros
Expand QuoteMan, I could watch wheel lathing videos all day.[close]
I thought the same thing.
Also, that the skate gawds I don't have a lathe as I most certainly would do this shit...allowing my OCD to level up.
I appear to have accidentally purchased the Spitfire Formula Zeros
(https://i.ibb.co/x7rbXZk/7983-B0-FF-CA69-46-EA-8-EFF-1233-D2-CD879-E.jpg) (https://ibb.co/x7rbXZk)
(https://i.ibb.co/LrC04m9/8-CAD8575-D215-462-C-88-B5-E7-FB3-F49-E660.jpg) (https://ibb.co/LrC04m9)
I appear to have accidentally purchased the Spitfire Formula Zeros
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteMan, I could watch wheel lathing videos all day.[close]
I thought the same thing.
Also, that the skate gawds I don't have a lathe as I most certainly would do this shit...allowing my OCD to level up.[close]
Ha yeah, I don't ever really want to go that far, but I have more fun with an angle grinder with what I have at home, so that is enough.Expand Quote
I appear to have accidentally purchased the Spitfire Formula Zeros[close]
What were you skating when that happened?
Some rough road surface, sharp edged ledge or other type of thing that will take chunks out of any wheel?
Not meaning to come across as nasty, just asking. I had definitely had a couple of chunks out of wheels from two things that I know will take chunks out of any wheel, no matter which brand or formula, most common one being screws sitting up just a bit on a DIY ledge / box thing and the edges / screws on wooden ramps, but that looks more like bitumen slides or similar.
Either way, you could send pics to DLX and ask them about it. You might get some more wheels.
First big chunk was just from “general skating” (I noticed it skating a parking block in a parking lot). The insane chunking was from tailsliding a metal edge ledge at a skatepark. Seemed like the loss of integrity from the first chunk was enough to have large pieces tear off in flaps pretty easily.
Not blaming Spitfire for the extent of the chunking (the almost comical amount was certainly from that ledge) but these do seem somewhat softer and less durable than all of the other F4 wheels I’ve had in the past. I typically never pay attention to the surfaces I’m skating to avoid this problem with wheels and never have had issues like this with Spitfires before.
Thought it was more amusing than anything else - still only riding F4s in the future and hoping these eventually smooth out (or the next set is a little more durable)…
Expand QuoteI have some old 54mm classic f4s That are about 52 now. Has anyone used a countersink tool to concave the side so it’s like a V5 or a conical? As long as I don’t go in far enough it doesn’t mess up wear the bearing seats it should be fine right?
Also if it works I’m kinda debating on taking tablets.l and making a narrow lock in. Leave the inside of the tablet alone and on the out side counter sink it so it’s concave and then round the edges a bit. I have all the tools at work. I just gotta make some sort of jig to hold the wheels but also I can just use a drill press for the counter sink and be fine to I think. How dumb is this? @Mbrimson88 thoughts?[close]
That could be fun!
For size and shape, Lock Ins are one side Tablet and the other side Conical Full, so Tablets are really just narrow double sided Lock Ins right from new.
OG Classics are more of the cutaway shape than anything else, with Conical and Conical Full wheels being the slightly more rounded top edge which makes them a bit more versatile for everything.
Shaping Classics down you can definitely take out a bit more wheel from closer to the bearing seat as they are the widest just there, but I find it easier to just round off the outside edges or flatten the side wall more than cut out the inside area.
Using an angle grinder with a more worn down smaller disc, I could get into the inside area of the wheel fairly well too when I wanted to get rid of the graphic on any wheel from Classics, Conical Full or even Lock Ins, so you could easily take out some of that part of the wheel as well, but more than anything it is about getting the wheel to spin as fast as possible to ensure the material you are taking off is as even as possible across the whole face, side or where ever you are working.
People have used a few different options, including in the clip below, which might be the safest way to change the shape of a wheel, if you had the machine to do it.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CFjeLGPFwzS/
Man we have a manual lathe at the shop but I don’t know how to run it. I may try the angle grinder route. I’m also thinking about using a corner round endmill in a drill press then mounting the wheel with a bearing to spin. But i need figure how sketch that is. We’re kinda slow at work so I’m wanting to mess around with some stuff. I run a cnc mill but I don’t know how to program or I’d do it that way. I don’t want to ask our programmer to write one for me.
This is what I’m thinking to put in the drill press to round the corner and then if the wheel is mounted with the bearings just spin it. And hopefully it works kinda like the lathe video you posted. There old wheels so no big if I ruin them. Nothing ventured nothing gained.
Oh and if I add the concave. Remove the bearing then use a countersink like this.
But we have these wide stubby ones that would work better but I can’t find a photo.
Tempted to get the 97d Classic shape. Wish they did 97 in every shape, OG classic or tablet would be perfect. Conical full works good but I want less clunk, might just hit them with the angle grinder for a narrow contact patch
Expand QuoteTempted to get the 97d Classic shape. Wish they did 97 in every shape, OG classic or tablet would be perfect. Conical full works good but I want less clunk, might just hit them with the angle grinder for a narrow contact patch[close]
It is definitely easier to take down Conical Full wheels for a more rounded look than getting new Classics.
I do this quite a lot to well used wheels that come back from others and they turn out really well - wide overall width, still medium to wide surface and slightly more rounded edges.
This might be the most I have rounded some off - started as 54mm when new.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CNzIL65lTst/
Tempted to get the 97d Classic shape. Wish they did 97 in every shape, OG classic or tablet would be perfect. Conical full works good but I want less clunk, might just hit them with the angle grinder for a narrow contact patch
Does rounding over the edges help with ride quality? I’ve got some 56mm ConFu’s I rode down to square and they feel pretty bad. I keep meaning to do a direct comparison to some similar size worn 54’s that still have some round over, but just wind up skating my current daily driver. I mean, I’m curious, but we’ve still (fucking STILL) got snow, so I don’t wanna burn a precious session dicking with stuff I prolly won’t ride anyway.
I got my board stolen and got a new setup with the black spitfire f4 classic fulls instead of the white/urethane color radials i always skated. They dont make the normal screeching sound that wheels should make and the slide feels unpleasant. Whats up with that? is it because theyre colored or the shape or because theyre new? im upset
I got my board stolen and got a new setup with the black spitfire f4 classic fulls instead of the white/urethane color radials i always skated. They dont make the normal screeching sound that wheels should make and the slide feels unpleasant. Whats up with that? is it because theyre colored or the shape or because theyre new? im upset
Expand QuoteI got my board stolen and got a new setup with the black spitfire f4 classic fulls instead of the white/urethane color radials i always skated. They dont make the normal screeching sound that wheels should make and the slide feels unpleasant. Whats up with that? is it because theyre colored or the shape or because theyre new? im upset[close]
It's the color. The dye that they use messes with the urethane so it doesn't behave the same as the standard potato colored F4s. That's why a lot of people won't ride any of the colored F4s.
i had the skate like a girl 53 radials and they slide/ “barked” just like normal. I also had the orange tablets and they were completely fine. Never had the black so i can’t speak on that.
my question is the real difference between OG classics and conical fulls in regards to their shape. how different are they? i can’t really tell from photos
OG classic is narrower, quicker turn and easier slide. Maybe more squared edge. Locks in real good. Doesn’t have the clunk of the CF but also doesn’t soak up rough stuff as well. Only had two park sessions on them but they’re my fav by a long shot now.
Yes to those replies.
OG Classic are a slimmer wheel with a sharper edge and more cutaway inside, when compared to Conical Full wheel shapes.
The set I skated for a day or so, some park but mainly mini ramp session feel like a mix between Classic and Conical Full, in that they don't slip off coping as easily as Classics but they don't grip the coping quite as much as Conical Full wheels do.
Others who have skated them more on ledges and even sitting them on the edge of a bench show they have a little less touching than the Conical Full, which makes what I felt seem true when I skated them.
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Yes to those replies.
OG Classic are a slimmer wheel with a sharper edge and more cutaway inside, when compared to Conical Full wheel shapes.
The set I skated for a day or so, some park but mainly mini ramp session feel like a mix between Classic and Conical Full, in that they don't slip off coping as easily as Classics but they don't grip the coping quite as much as Conical Full wheels do.
Others who have skated them more on ledges and even sitting them on the edge of a bench show they have a little less touching than the Conical Full, which makes what I felt seem true when I skated them.[close]
I'm tempted to go for 55 OG Classic (after going through LockIns, Tablets and currently on Classics)
Classic felt great but i want to go back to a wider wheel cuz they feel better in the streets
In the meantime, i had a session on some huuuuuge wheels with dimensions similar to kader's radial full (but 55 mm) and it was pretty bad in the crooked department and made my hanger feel really small.
TLDR: are crooked grinds feeling good on those OG classic ?
I bought a set of f4 54mm 99d lock-ins in like 2019 (adult life has me skating much less) and thought they where great no issues at all and just picked up a set of the OG classic 55 mm 99d’s and they feel way better- not sure if it’s just new wheels or something has changed in the last 3 years? I’ve skated Pretty much only F4’s since they came out (with the exception of some OJ ellites I wasn’t happy with) and never noticed that much of a difference
I tried some Hazard wheels last year. They felt harder and more slippery than 101 Spitfires but the quality was good.
Rolled pretty fast and didnt flatspot, though still felt like a second rate wheel despite costing me almost as much as a set of spits.
I would buy them again in a pinch, a positive is they consistently seem to be making black wheels which are usually uncommon.
Somebody really needs to do lockouts, so when you ride them graphic in, they function as intended. I guess mini combos/slime balls are sort of like that, but the “lock” side had more radius/bevel.Expand QuoteI bought a set of f4 54mm 99d lock-ins in like 2019 (adult life has me skating much less) and thought they where great no issues at all and just picked up a set of the OG classic 55 mm 99d’s and they feel way better- not sure if it’s just new wheels or something has changed in the last 3 years? I’ve skated Pretty much only F4’s since they came out (with the exception of some OJ ellites I wasn’t happy with) and never noticed that much of a difference[close]
Speaking of lockins, which are rare (like those radial slims these days), Hazard (Madness) has one just like it. No clue about the quality of urethane or what they feel like....
(https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5f7b8950f05492710de4102a/1604087066970-WQDM9VG3H8KBT0K3AFXS/CP_2_UPDATE.jpg?format=2500w)
Expand QuoteI tried some Hazard wheels last year. They felt harder and more slippery than 101 Spitfires but the quality was good.
Rolled pretty fast and didnt flatspot, though still felt like a second rate wheel despite costing me almost as much as a set of spits.
I would buy them again in a pinch, a positive is they consistently seem to be making black wheels which are usually uncommon.[close]
Did they feel like Creative urethane? I can't stand creative pours.
Got a free set of 58mm OGs. Rode great with no break in time on the wood indoor ramp. Which is weird cuz the 55 OG’s are too slick and unridable there. But before that the 101a 52mm CF’s were working for me. Maybe it’s all about the contact patch width or every individual pour is slightly different and nothing mattress
Expand QuoteI bought a set of f4 54mm 99d lock-ins in like 2019 (adult life has me skating much less) and thought they where great no issues at all and just picked up a set of the OG classic 55 mm 99d’s and they feel way better- not sure if it’s just new wheels or something has changed in the last 3 years? I’ve skated Pretty much only F4’s since they came out (with the exception of some OJ ellites I wasn’t happy with) and never noticed that much of a difference[close]
Speaking of lockins, which are rare (like those radial slims these days), Hazard (Madness) has one just like it. No clue about the quality of urethane or what they feel like....
(https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5f7b8950f05492710de4102a/1604087066970-WQDM9VG3H8KBT0K3AFXS/CP_2_UPDATE.jpg?format=2500w)
Yeah these are both OG classic shape
formula four, not to be confused with OG Classic classic OG formula :o
Theres a 1.5mm difference in contact width, wouldn’t think that’s much at all but on the same ramp it was the difference between ice rink slams and complete grippy confidence
Expand QuoteI tried some Hazard wheels last year. They felt harder and more slippery than 101 Spitfires but the quality was good.
Rolled pretty fast and didnt flatspot, though still felt like a second rate wheel despite costing me almost as much as a set of spits.
I would buy them again in a pinch, a positive is they consistently seem to be making black wheels which are usually uncommon.[close]
Did they feel like Creative urethane? I can't stand creative pours.
Dear Spitfire (I know there are some DLX heads in dis bitch), please make more colored wheel options in a non-classic shape! Ive been riding my Conical Bouls flatspotted for like 4 months because they weren't that bad, they weren't cheap and it's hella hard to get a shape that's not a classic in a colored option. I know there's a black Ishod wheel but black wheels look gross. So please pretty please guys take note of this for the upcoming seasons!Would you ride an orange conical?
I did end up buying some OG Classic F4s but I feel like my whip is not the same without colored wheels haha
I hella wouldWould you ride an orange conical?Expand QuoteDear Spitfire (I know there are some DLX heads in dis bitch), please make more colored wheel options in a non-classic shape! Ive been riding my Conical Bouls flatspotted for like 4 months because they weren't that bad, they weren't cheap and it's hella hard to get a shape that's not a classic in a colored option. I know there's a black Ishod wheel but black wheels look gross. So please pretty please guys take note of this for the upcoming seasons!
I did end up buying some OG Classic F4s but I feel like my whip is not the same without colored wheels haha[close]
I want single color wheel ala Lance/Grosso to come back. Could do rit dye but old posts here said it doesn’t last long.
The Spitfire Summer 2022 catalog is up with the most interesting offering (as previously mentioned by others) being this wheel:
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The Spitfire Summer 2022 catalog is up with the most interesting offering (as previously mentioned by others) being this wheel:[close]
(https://www.spitfirewheels.com/summer22/sf-sm22-glow-03.jpg)
YEAH BABY GLOW IN THE DARK!
Damn. No radials and no conicals…. Wtf
Im sorry for asking this, i know its been discussed x amounts of times already but i really cant decide between Radials, reg. conicals and og classics..
Ive been on two pairs of 53mm conical fulls before but want to shave off a little weight as i like to ride 55-57mm for longevity.
Is conicals the in between shape of the three?
Im sorry for asking this, i know its been discussed x amounts of times already but i really cant decide between Radials, reg. conicals and og classics..
Ive been on two pairs of 53mm conical fulls before but want to shave off a little weight as i like to ride 55-57mm for longevity.
Is conicals the in between shape of the three?
Expand QuoteIm sorry for asking this, i know its been discussed x amounts of times already but i really cant decide between Radials, reg. conicals and og classics..
Ive been on two pairs of 53mm conical fulls before but want to shave off a little weight as i like to ride 55-57mm for longevity.
Is conicals the in between shape of the three?[close]
I haven’t had the OG classics but I have been eyeing them. I have had radials and I enjoyed them but I’m on regular conicals now and I think I prefer them over the radials.
OG classic is my fav bowl wheel ever now. Slammed so hard on Radials when they rolled over the coping onto the deck. I did a couple parking lot slappies and they roll up on curbs good. Those 55mm Oski Radials are for sale, only skated one day
Im sorry for asking this, i know its been discussed x amounts of times already but i really cant decide between Radials, reg. conicals and og classics..
Ive been on two pairs of 53mm conical fulls before but want to shave off a little weight as i like to ride 55-57mm for longevity.
Is conicals the in between shape of the three?
I’m “stuck” with a couple sets of classics. I haven’t ridden such a skinny wheel since the Manderson pro wheel shape came out.
It’s all in my head right and these will serve me just fine?
I’m “stuck” with a couple sets of classics. I haven’t ridden such a skinny wheel since the Manderson pro wheel shape came out.
It’s all in my head right and these will serve me just fine?
I’m “stuck” with a couple sets of classics. I haven’t ridden such a skinny wheel since the Manderson pro wheel shape came out.
It’s all in my head right and these will serve me just fine?
anyone looking for some lock ins. i see that they dont really have them anymore and im switching back to classics. going to post to classified today. they are 55 but ill measure them to see if they wore down. didnt skate them muchNot sure what sizes but 35th north had a couple pairs last weekend when I was in there. You might want to give them a ring.
Not sure what sizes but 35th north had a couple pairs last weekend when I was in there. You might want to give them a ring.Expand Quoteanyone looking for some lock ins. i see that they dont really have them anymore and im switching back to classics. going to post to classified today. they are 55 but ill measure them to see if they wore down. didnt skate them much[close]
My bad, misread your post. Thought you were in search for some.Not sure what sizes but 35th north had a couple pairs last weekend when I was in there. You might want to give them a ring.Expand Quoteanyone looking for some lock ins. i see that they dont really have them anymore and im switching back to classics. going to post to classified today. they are 55 but ill measure them to see if they wore down. didnt skate them much[close]
My bad, misread your post. Thought you were in search for some.Expand QuoteNot sure what sizes but 35th north had a couple pairs last weekend when I was in there. You might want to give them a ring.Expand Quoteanyone looking for some lock ins. i see that they dont really have them anymore and im switching back to classics. going to post to classified today. they are 55 but ill measure them to see if they wore down. didnt skate them much[close][close]
How's the slide on 97a compare to 99a f4s?
How's the slide on 97a compare to 99a f4s?
How's the slide on 97a compare to 99a f4s?
How's the slide on 97a compare to 99a f4s?
glow in the dark wheels look like regular spitfires in person not really any green tint or whatever still potato color
lock ins are back in shops
glow in the dark wheels look like regular spitfires in person not really any green tint or whatever still potato color
97 radial fulls on the way
I’m grabbing a set this weekend. This is an old 80hd glow from a few years back under light for about 30 seconds:
(https://i.postimg.cc/tTjM1jNw/3-E0-CEBE5-6441-4609-9441-03-E08-BEEC0-E7.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Y4d3VTVz)
I wish they’d keep the glows around as a staple. I can’t wait to see if I can leave smears of glow on lip slides.
Expand QuoteI’m grabbing a set this weekend. This is an old 80hd glow from a few years back under light for about 30 seconds:
(https://i.postimg.cc/tTjM1jNw/3-E0-CEBE5-6441-4609-9441-03-E08-BEEC0-E7.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Y4d3VTVz)
I wish they’d keep the glows around as a staple. I can’t wait to see if I can leave smears of glow on lip slides.[close]
Now THAT would be so sick. I'm sure you could replicate something like that by putting some glow in the dark paint on your wheels or the obstacle.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI’m grabbing a set this weekend. This is an old 80hd glow from a few years back under light for about 30 seconds:
(https://i.postimg.cc/tTjM1jNw/3-E0-CEBE5-6441-4609-9441-03-E08-BEEC0-E7.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Y4d3VTVz)
I wish they’d keep the glows around as a staple. I can’t wait to see if I can leave smears of glow on lip slides.[close]
Now THAT would be so sick. I'm sure you could replicate something like that by putting some glow in the dark paint on your wheels or the obstacle.[close]
We could be on the cusp of a new concept video - an (almost) full darkness part, minimal lighting with the glow of the F4 being the light source.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI’m grabbing a set this weekend. This is an old 80hd glow from a few years back under light for about 30 seconds:
(https://i.postimg.cc/tTjM1jNw/3-E0-CEBE5-6441-4609-9441-03-E08-BEEC0-E7.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Y4d3VTVz)
I wish they’d keep the glows around as a staple. I can’t wait to see if I can leave smears of glow on lip slides.[close]
Now THAT would be so sick. I'm sure you could replicate something like that by putting some glow in the dark paint on your wheels or the obstacle.[close]
We could be on the cusp of a new concept video - an (almost) full darkness part, minimal lighting with the glow of the F4 being the light source.[close]
It's going to be like a laser tag arena. We just need some KMFDM blasting at the spot too for the full laser tag experience.
I’m grabbing a set this weekend. This is an old 80hd glow from a few years back under light for about 30 seconds:
(https://i.postimg.cc/tTjM1jNw/3-E0-CEBE5-6441-4609-9441-03-E08-BEEC0-E7.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Y4d3VTVz)
I wish they’d keep the glows around as a staple. I can’t wait to see if I can leave smears of glow on lip slides.
Expand QuoteHow's the slide on 97a compare to 99a f4s?[close]
Wasn't a fan of the slide. That is my main complaint with them (besides being a bit bouncy and muted feeling). They are hard to get sliding, and then they are really sticky once they do slide. Takes a lot of effort to not get bucked off a standard powerslide from my experience.
They tackle crust super well though, so a wheel with great utility... just not the most "fun" wheel.
When the Powell SSF 93a eventually come out, I recommend those over F4 97a. Similar amount of crust tackling, but feels like a harder wheel and slides super well.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteHow's the slide on 97a compare to 99a f4s?[close]
Wasn't a fan of the slide. That is my main complaint with them (besides being a bit bouncy and muted feeling). They are hard to get sliding, and then they are really sticky once they do slide. Takes a lot of effort to not get bucked off a standard powerslide from my experience.
They tackle crust super well though, so a wheel with great utility... just not the most "fun" wheel.
When the Powell SSF 93a eventually come out, I recommend those over F4 97a. Similar amount of crust tackling, but feels like a harder wheel and slides super well.[close]
100%. I said this in the wheel thread but the 93a Bones isn’t my favorite wheel but imo it is absolutely better than the 97a Spitfire (which I like a lot). Now that I’ve skated both, I will not be returning to the 97a.
@FuzzGNU
I thought the new 60 mm Conical Full wheels are the same shape as the old (not OG) standard urethane Classic shape, which were not round but actually in the Conical Full shape right from go.
Here is a close up of them anyway, measurements as Jakeumms said are the same.
* And yes they were big solid wheels, which is why a lot of the Bowl Barneys and others liked them so much.
(https://i.ibb.co/17tgPqF/Spitfire-60mm-Classic-shape-old.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Gn4682z)
Finally, after years of searching, I finally found 58mm Conical Fulls. Also, got the Jeff 60s.
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/526625815794941952/985929931055829052/20220613_170805.jpg)
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteHow's the slide on 97a compare to 99a f4s?[close]
Wasn't a fan of the slide. That is my main complaint with them (besides being a bit bouncy and muted feeling). They are hard to get sliding, and then they are really sticky once they do slide. Takes a lot of effort to not get bucked off a standard powerslide from my experience.
They tackle crust super well though, so a wheel with great utility... just not the most "fun" wheel.
When the Powell SSF 93a eventually come out, I recommend those over F4 97a. Similar amount of crust tackling, but feels like a harder wheel and slides super well.[close]
100%. I said this in the wheel thread but the 93a Bones isn’t my favorite wheel but imo it is absolutely better than the 97a Spitfire (which I like a lot). Now that I’ve skated both, I will not be returning to the 97a.[close]
Thanks for reiterating this!
I too like the f4 97s, but they are kinda weird, in that the wheel feels good on bad ground, and bad on good ground. So skating to the spot feels good, and then skating ‘the spot’ usually feels less good. I was all set to get some f4 53 classics and call it good, but these wheels are more and more intriguing.
I’ve been skating f4 52 conical fulls, 101s, the most often, and after a really harsh initial break in, they feel good. Some of the trash roads in the PNW are not fun, but the wheels roll way better than I thought they would, considering the hard durometer.
I actually prefer thinner, ‘classic’, shaped wheels, and really liked bones stf classic shape (v2s?) back in the day, just not as hyped on the plastic feel.
Really interested to hear more about these wheels, and thankful for more wheel options! It’s been awhile since there have been any significant wheel tech inventions
Expand QuoteFinally, after years of searching, I finally found 58mm Conical Fulls. Also, got the Jeff 60s.
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/526625815794941952/985929931055829052/20220613_170805.jpg)[close]
First since the start of 2020 I think for the Conical Full 58mm in 99 duro.
I know a lot of people have been looking / wanting them.
Those 60mm 97 duro wheels should be good - right size for the shape and duro.
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@FuzzGNU
I thought the new 60 mm Conical Full wheels are the same shape as the old (not OG) standard urethane Classic shape, which were not round but actually in the Conical Full shape right from go.
Here is a close up of them anyway, measurements as Jakeumms said are the same.
* And yes they were big solid wheels, which is why a lot of the Bowl Barneys and others liked them so much.
(https://i.ibb.co/17tgPqF/Spitfire-60mm-Classic-shape-old.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Gn4682z)[close]
Seems sacrilegious to go with the red swirl since that colorway is usually reserved for the 51mm Classics lineup
Is everyone skating these big wheels on ace classics/indys?
I tried putting radial full 56s on a set of 151s with 1/8" risers and this is all I could imagine:
I cant even imagine what 60s would look like on thunders, just doesn't seem right.
Is everyone skating these big wheels on ace classics/indys?
I tried putting radial full 56s on a set of 151s with 1/8" risers and this is all I could imagine:
(https://i.imgur.com/VqgELm6.png)
I cant even imagine what 60s would look like on thunders, just doesn't seem right.
the wheel feels good on bad ground, and bad on good groundExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteHow's the slide on 97a compare to 99a f4s?[close]
Wasn't a fan of the slide. That is my main complaint with them (besides being a bit bouncy and muted feeling). They are hard to get sliding, and then they are really sticky once they do slide. Takes a lot of effort to not get bucked off a standard powerslide from my experience.
They tackle crust super well though, so a wheel with great utility... just not the most "fun" wheel.
When the Powell SSF 93a eventually come out, I recommend those over F4 97a. Similar amount of crust tackling, but feels like a harder wheel and slides super well.[close]
100%. I said this in the wheel thread but the 93a Bones isn’t my favorite wheel but imo it is absolutely better than the 97a Spitfire (which I like a lot). Now that I’ve skated both, I will not be returning to the 97a.[close]
Just spent the last few days hitting some very haggard Oregon coastal parks on some 60mm F4 OG Classics. It was so much easier to cruise through haggard crust and get to the coping in areas I previously had to strategize and pump like crazy to reach. Thankful for wheel wells.
That's it. That is my report.
Expand QuoteJust spent the last few days hitting some very haggard Oregon coastal parks on some 60mm F4 OG Classics. It was so much easier to cruise through haggard crust and get to the coping in areas I previously had to strategize and pump like crazy to reach. Thankful for wheel wells.
That's it. That is my report.[close]
Wheel wells are underrated.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteJust spent the last few days hitting some very haggard Oregon coastal parks on some 60mm F4 OG Classics. It was so much easier to cruise through haggard crust and get to the coping in areas I previously had to strategize and pump like crazy to reach. Thankful for wheel wells.
That's it. That is my report.[close]
Wheel wells are underrated.[close]
I'm actually enjoying my wheel wells as well. Although my trucks are so loose I still sometimes wheelbite even though i'm on 52mm conicals
yeah that seems to be the case. at least for the set i’m on rn
Expand Quoteyeah that seems to be the case. at least for the set i’m on rn[close]
Yeah ok they are asymmetrical, but also 2 out of 4 wheels had the unprinted side not properly cut out, so the bearings didnt fit all the way in. Had to carve them out with a knife...
Expand QuoteExpand Quoteyeah that seems to be the case. at least for the set i’m on rn[close]
Yeah ok they are asymmetrical, but also 2 out of 4 wheels had the unprinted side not properly cut out, so the bearings didnt fit all the way in. Had to carve them out with a knife...[close]
Is spitfire becoming the ace (classics) of wheels? My last 2 sets had defects
I just wanted to see why does no one mess with the 101 f4s? I once got a pair of the radial slims and they ruled, fast af and slid pretty close to the 99s, it seems that these days they are almost out of circulation apart from some conical fulls. Also another thing that spitfire does is that they don't produce all of their shapes equally, for me the best all round shape was the radial slims and they are never in circulation it seems they only produce the ridiculously fat shapes these days like conical fulls and radial fulls, plus the classics that are super skinny, whatever happened to the classics full shape? that was pretty good... at the end of the day these full shapes cost more urethane lol. I don't know maybe its a marketing move or something...
I have to disagree with some of the above. First, CA is a big state and much of it has pretty haggard streets, even in the skateboarding land of milk and honey. It cracks me up that many of us think we are skating 'crust' bc we don't live in CA.
Second, 101 F4s actually do pretty OK on haggard terrain. I used to use them a fair bit in the summers in Portland,. Mainly to teach myself backside power slides on hills (it worked). B/c they have such a high 'rebound' they can handle a little ruggedness. Obviously they don't suck up crust as well as 99s or 97s but they felt better to me than STFs and certainly SPFs.
The main reason I don't use them is I prefer the slip-to-grip ratio of 99s. I like the way the 99s bite when I want them to. The 101s were a little sketch in super smooth parks for the way I skate and the slide wasn't as controlled. They slide too well and I like a little resistance. Now I can do backside power slides, they feel even better on 99s but it took trying them at slower speeds on 101s to dial them in.
If you want to slide at slower speeds or if you're into technical ledge or even curb skating, give them a go. If you're struggling with a certain slide trick or bummed the way your Thunders lock into nose and tail slides, these could be other reasons to try 101s. I've only tried the 101s in 54mm size and classic and radial slim shapes. I'd be curious to try them in a bigger, wider shape.
Ultimately, F4 99s just fucking rule as an all round/ all terrain wheel.
I just wanted to see why does no one mess with the 101 f4s? I once got a pair of the radial slims and they ruled, fast af and slid pretty close to the 99s, it seems that these days they are almost out of circulation apart from some conical fulls. Also another thing that spitfire does is that they don't produce all of their shapes equally, for me the best all round shape was the radial slims and they are never in circulation it seems they only produce the ridiculously fat shapes these days like conical fulls and radial fulls, plus the classics that are super skinny, whatever happened to the classics full shape? that was pretty good... at the end of the day these full shapes cost more urethane lol. I don't know maybe its a marketing move or something...
Anyone have any positive things to say about Tablet 55s?
Anyone have any positive things to say about Tablet 55s?
Anyone have any positive things to say about Tablet 55s?
I recently impulse-bought a set of 56 mm Radial Fulls and they may have sparked a new love for large wheels. I have been using 52 mm Classics and Classics Full on my popsicle before.
Just pushing around and rolling feels so much better, and somehow that translates into how I do my tricks. More flow and more commitment!
They are bulky of course. Flip tricks are draining, which sucks since I have been on a mission to (re)learn them. I equally like the Radial Fulls on street and transition, which I cannot say has been true for any other F4 shape.
About the video, I have never been able to do that manual around my local bowl on 52 mm wheels, and I can do it consistently on the Radial Fulls. Now I kind of want to go fast enough so I can properly roll in.
(https://i.ibb.co/Qrw0qGY/IMG-3199-2-copy.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/5K4SL41/IMG-3198-2-copy.jpg)
https://youtu.be/m83s4Q6Ft6Y
Expand QuoteAnyone have any positive things to say about Tablet 55s?[close]
55 OG classics are very very close in width and contact width. I'd consider those also as they have a slight sidecut.
Haha, I agree that they look ridiculous especially in comparison to the 52 mm Classic Full. Though fully set up on the 9.25 popsicle with 169s it’s not too bad actually. Flipping this board is challenging no matter what but they definitely add some heft. Maybe the 55 mm Radials that recently came out are the best compromise. For an all around board I cannot see myself go back under 54 mm right now.
Expand QuoteHaha, I agree that they look ridiculous especially in comparison to the 52 mm Classic Full. Though fully set up on the 9.25 popsicle with 169s it’s not too bad actually. Flipping this board is challenging no matter what but they definitely add some heft. Maybe the 55 mm Radials that recently came out are the best compromise. For an all around board I cannot see myself go back under 54 mm right now.[close]
I’m riding the 55 oski radials and they’re pretty damn near perfect. I would love a 52-53 radial for my street set ups but they haven’t done one in a while it seems
I’m riding the 55 oski radials and they’re pretty damn near perfect. I would love a 52-53 radial for my street set ups but they haven’t done one in a while it seems
Expand QuoteI’m riding the 55 oski radials and they’re pretty damn near perfect. I would love a 52-53 radial for my street set ups but they haven’t done one in a while it seems[close]
I picked up some 53 trippy swirl radials in HB a few weeks ago. The skate like a girl wheels come in this size and shape too. They are low stock so just have to find them...
Edit: neither of those are potato colored so that may matter to some.
Haha, I agree that they look ridiculous especially in comparison to the 52 mm Classic Full. Though fully set up on the 9.25 popsicle with 169s it’s not too bad actually. Flipping this board is challenging no matter what but they definitely add some heft. Maybe the 55 mm Radials that recently came out are the best compromise. For an all around board I cannot see myself go back under 54 mm right now.
Anyone know what's going on with radials? Been looking for them for months but they're just not available in 54mm or below.I don't have any info on radials, but classic fulls are becoming about as scarce since they weren't in the last drop. So if you know where some are you better grab them.
Might have to get some Classic Fulls but not sure if anyone knows anything and if it's worth waiting a bit longer?
Anyone know what's going on with radials? Been looking for them for months but they're just not available in 54mm or below.
Might have to get some Classic Fulls but not sure if anyone knows anything and if it's worth waiting a bit longer?
I don't have any info on radials, but classic fulls are becoming about as scarce since they weren't in the last drop. So if you know where some are you better grab them.Expand QuoteAnyone know what's going on with radials? Been looking for them for months but they're just not available in 54mm or below.
Might have to get some Classic Fulls but not sure if anyone knows anything and if it's worth waiting a bit longer?[close]
Expand QuoteAnyone know what's going on with radials? Been looking for them for months but they're just not available in 54mm or below.
Might have to get some Classic Fulls but not sure if anyone knows anything and if it's worth waiting a bit longer?[close]
Seriously. It's like they just stopped producing radial/radial slims. Damn shame.
Anyone know what's going on with radials? Been looking for them for months but they're just not available in 54mm or below.
Might have to get some Classic Fulls but not sure if anyone knows anything and if it's worth waiting a bit longer?
Anyone know what's going on with radials? Been looking for them for months but they're just not available in 54mm or below.
Might have to get some Classic Fulls but not sure if anyone knows anything and if it's worth waiting a bit longer?
Expand QuoteAnyone know what's going on with radials? Been looking for them for months but they're just not available in 54mm or below.
Might have to get some Classic Fulls but not sure if anyone knows anything and if it's worth waiting a bit longer?[close]
I posted a few posts up...they are out there but not in potato color.
https://www.paradeworld.com/products/spitfire-formula-four-radial-trippy-swirl-skateboard-wheels-99d-53mm-1-7536761569536/
Yeah that's what I'm running in 52mm right now and love them. Trying to scare up a set of 54s for backup but striking out so far.Expand QuoteI don't have any info on radials, but classic fulls are becoming about as scarce since they weren't in the last drop. So if you know where some are you better grab them.Expand QuoteAnyone know what's going on with radials? Been looking for them for months but they're just not available in 54mm or below.
Might have to get some Classic Fulls but not sure if anyone knows anything and if it's worth waiting a bit longer?[close][close]
Aghhh okay think I'll grab them then. They're from a shop I like too. It's the repeaters graphic from last year I think
^that's true. that's one my personal rules with gear, if I can't get that part whenever I want, I don't really wanna run it on my regular setup. Shit getting broken and worn out is part of skating, so skating something I can't get again, whether it's a deck, shoes, wheels, trucks kinda stresses me out. That way you can enjoy destroying your product.
that's why I dont really fuck with shaped boards either, had fun on a dan's rig shape and didn't see another pop up for like 2 years. Now I dont want another one, even though dan's the man.
I always buy f4 classics or conical fulls b/c they always run them every season in a ton of sizes and all the duros they offer, and I think they both look cool. don't really have a preference on wheel shape either. I just run what I feel like looking at.
I've been skating the 58mm radial fulls for a week or so and these have gotta be the slipperiest wheels I've ever had. I love the shape and width and the slide is definitely awesome, but they're almost too slippery and they're 99a. Anyone else experience this?
I've been skating the 58mm radial fulls for a week or so and these have gotta be the slipperiest wheels I've ever had. I love the shape and width and the slide is definitely awesome, but they're almost too slippery and they're 99a. Anyone else experience this?
Phew, I can't imagine trying these out indoors it would be an ice rink. I still love em though. Everyone has been commenting on how massive they look, too and they're like what shape are those?! I lined em up alongside 60mm 95a OJ Combos and they're basically the same width it's nuts ;D
Can someone please tell me what the difference is between Conical, Radial (both offer half and Full versions it seems), Classic etc? i understand its the way the wheels are cut out, but why?https://www.spitfirewheels.com/formulafour/
Also, do you guys notice much difference between a 99a and a 101a in f4s?
https://www.spitfirewheels.com/formulafour/Expand QuoteCan someone please tell me what the difference is between Conical, Radial (both offer half and Full versions it seems), Classic etc? i understand its the way the wheels are cut out, but why?
Also, do you guys notice much difference between a 99a and a 101a in f4s?[close]
This is missing radial full but its essentially a radial with wider and bigger contact patch. As for why the different cuts, I can only say, the sidewall cut determines lockability and transition dismount (the ease of reentry that the sidewall allows against the coping). A straighter cut locks in better while a rounder edge lets you come off the grind easier and is easier to get off the ground for scoop tricks since theres less resistance. All this is based off my experience by the way. The width and contact patch determines stability, slidability (smaller contact patch and width generally slides easier), and weight. The only way to truly know if any of this matters to you is to try them.
99 and 101 definitely has a tangible difference for me. 99 is generally agreed to be a good all around durometer while the 101 felt icy and harsh on rough ground for me but eventually felt normal after breaking them in. 101s felt slightly faster but not enough for me to go with those over 99s in the future.
Thank you Camel Filters!
I am just talking to my homey on the discord about it too and he rides the Conical Full @ 56mm and they seem to be some of the widest wheels that they have, which seems in tune with what I like. I dont like the look of those skinny wheels at all and i also just like the way those fatter wheels feel. I think I just need to figure out what size I want (58mm is too big i get bit too much wheelbite but it i also dont mind it too much, probably 56mm is fine but might go bit smaller) but Conical Full 99a seems to be pretty ideal for me!
the main drawback of my soft 95a OJ wheels is metal edges of skatepark do not slide well AT ALL. Seems like even 99a F4 will handle this no problem.
Googling “Spitfire wheel shapes” will answer a lot of the questions in this thread. Pics of the shape with height/width/contact patch info.
For anyone who is in need of a Spitfire Wheel Chart that comes in the packaging of the wheels.
I do have a pic of the card with Spitfire Classic Full wheels too, but the sizes are not correct past 53mm, so I added to this one, which I feel is still not quite correct, but closer than what it was before.
Sorry if I didn't credit your pic, but these were spread throughout this and other threads and I only thought about it afterwards.(https://i.ibb.co/2ZP2mdh/IMAG1854.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jJGKBDf)Expand Quote[close](https://i.ibb.co/NThG9Yf/PXL-20220123-153607760.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jJKjy4q)Expand QuoteHere's the one from the Oskis if it helps...[close]
Charts to compare size (incorrect sizes on the Classic full wheels on the chart, but correct below in text):
(https://i.ibb.co/v4cKzCy/Spitfire-classic-full-specs-1a.jpg)
I had a dig through some boxes and found not only the old Classic Full cards, but also a set of the Spitfire Cardiel Charro wheels, which are actually 54.5 mm and they measure 35 wide with 19 contact (maybe even 19.5 mm contact).
So the sizes are really as follows:
Classic Full chart correct to 54mm and measurements just taken again on wheels I have:
52 33 18
53 33.5 18.5
54 34 19
54.5 35 19.5
56 37 22.5
58 38 24
(https://i.ibb.co/XW1Q85R/Spitfire-Radial-chart.jpg)(https://i.ibb.co/NgvKx3g/Spitfire-Radial-Full-chart1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Gf6R7Jf)Expand Quote[close]
Expand QuoteGoogling “Spitfire wheel shapes” will answer a lot of the questions in this thread. Pics of the shape with height/width/contact patch info.[close]
ah, but why google when you are on slap!
Seeing the Classics Full measurements again makes me wonder how relevant the 52 mm ones really are. Same width as 53 mm Classics, which will have a similar contact patch once worn down to 52 mm. I liked my Classics Full (passed them on) but am wondering if I should just go with 53 mm Classics when I am buying my next set of smaller wheels as they are much more widely available.
Seeing the Classics Full measurements again makes me wonder how relevant the 52 mm ones really are. Same width as 53 mm Classics, which will have a similar contact patch once worn down to 52 mm. I liked my Classics Full (passed them on) but am wondering if I should just go with 53 mm Classics when I am buying my next set of smaller wheels as they are much more widely available.Not worth much but I love 53/99 classic shape. Great all around wheel and lock in is good as well as reverts out of grinds.
Yo I've got to get some new wheels, been riding 56mm 99a conical fulls.
Really like them, but downside is how bulky they feel trying flip tricks & how much weight they add to my set up compared to mates' set ups.
I mainly skate bowls and ramps, but want to get into more flip tricks and street stuff.
Anyone got any recs that'd make it a bit lighter, but without slipping out in a bowl /having to pump way harder?
Cheers!
Yo I've got to get some new wheels, been riding 56mm 99a conical fulls.
Really like them, but downside is how bulky they feel trying flip tricks & how much weight they add to my set up compared to mates' set ups.
I mainly skate bowls and ramps, but want to get into more flip tricks and street stuff.
Anyone got any recs that'd make it a bit lighter, but without slipping out in a bowl /having to pump way harder?
Cheers!
Expand QuoteYo I've got to get some new wheels, been riding 56mm 99a conical fulls.
Really like them, but downside is how bulky they feel trying flip tricks & how much weight they add to my set up compared to mates' set ups.
I mainly skate bowls and ramps, but want to get into more flip tricks and street stuff.
Anyone got any recs that'd make it a bit lighter, but without slipping out in a bowl /having to pump way harder?
Cheers![close]
54mm Conical
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteYo I've got to get some new wheels, been riding 56mm 99a conical fulls.
Really like them, but downside is how bulky they feel trying flip tricks & how much weight they add to my set up compared to mates' set ups.
I mainly skate bowls and ramps, but want to get into more flip tricks and street stuff.
Anyone got any recs that'd make it a bit lighter, but without slipping out in a bowl /having to pump way harder?
Cheers![close]
54mm Conical[close]
This, or OG Classics (assuming you want to stick to a conical shape). And maybe consider Titaniums if you Re riding Indys, they help a lot with making bigger setups feel lighter.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteYo I've got to get some new wheels, been riding 56mm 99a conical fulls.
Really like them, but downside is how bulky they feel trying flip tricks & how much weight they add to my set up compared to mates' set ups.
I mainly skate bowls and ramps, but want to get into more flip tricks and street stuff.
Anyone got any recs that'd make it a bit lighter, but without slipping out in a bowl /having to pump way harder?
Cheers![close]
54mm Conical[close]
This, or OG Classics (assuming you want to stick to a conical shape). And maybe consider Titaniums if you Re riding Indys, they help a lot with making bigger setups feel lighter.[close]
Sweet cheers for the advice, can confirm that buying conicals are a nightmare (at least in UK). Only found one shop that does 54s the rest are all conical fulls.
I skate Venture Lights 5.6 Hi, been on ventures since a kid. Maybe time for a change.
... is this how gear madness starts??
Don't change your trucks. You've been on them since a kid so you've obviously done your best skating on venture. All changing will do is make you have to re learn everything.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteYo I've got to get some new wheels, been riding 56mm 99a conical fulls.
Really like them, but downside is how bulky they feel trying flip tricks & how much weight they add to my set up compared to mates' set ups.
I mainly skate bowls and ramps, but want to get into more flip tricks and street stuff.
Anyone got any recs that'd make it a bit lighter, but without slipping out in a bowl /having to pump way harder?
Cheers![close]
54mm Conical[close]
This, or OG Classics (assuming you want to stick to a conical shape). And maybe consider Titaniums if you Re riding Indys, they help a lot with making bigger setups feel lighter.[close]
Sweet cheers for the advice, can confirm that buying conicals are a nightmare (at least in UK). Only found one shop that does 54s the rest are all conical fulls.
I skate Venture Lights 5.6 Hi, been on ventures since a kid. Maybe time for a change.
... is this how gear madness starts??
Just saw this posted to instagram, looks like there will be potato after all.Expand QuoteAnyone know what's going on with radials? Been looking for them for months but they're just not available in 54mm or below.
Might have to get some Classic Fulls but not sure if anyone knows anything and if it's worth waiting a bit longer?[close]
Yeah I’ve heard rumors there may be some 53-54 radials coming, but no potato colors; all black or swirl or whatever
Just saw this posted to instagram, looks like there will be potato after all.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteAnyone know what's going on with radials? Been looking for them for months but they're just not available in 54mm or below.
Might have to get some Classic Fulls but not sure if anyone knows anything and if it's worth waiting a bit longer?[close]
Yeah I’ve heard rumors there may be some 53-54 radials coming, but no potato colors; all black or swirl or whatever[close]
https://www.instagram.com/p/ChSst7PvP0j/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link (https://www.instagram.com/p/ChSst7PvP0j/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link)
Just saw this posted to instagram, looks like there will be potato after all.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteAnyone know what's going on with radials? Been looking for them for months but they're just not available in 54mm or below.
Might have to get some Classic Fulls but not sure if anyone knows anything and if it's worth waiting a bit longer?[close]
Yeah I’ve heard rumors there may be some 53-54 radials coming, but no potato colors; all black or swirl or whatever[close]
https://www.instagram.com/p/ChSst7PvP0j/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link (https://www.instagram.com/p/ChSst7PvP0j/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link)
Expand QuoteJust saw this posted to instagram, looks like there will be potato after all.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteAnyone know what's going on with radials? Been looking for them for months but they're just not available in 54mm or below.
Might have to get some Classic Fulls but not sure if anyone knows anything and if it's worth waiting a bit longer?[close]
Yeah I’ve heard rumors there may be some 53-54 radials coming, but no potato colors; all black or swirl or whatever[close]
https://www.instagram.com/p/ChSst7PvP0j/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link (https://www.instagram.com/p/ChSst7PvP0j/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link)[close]
Damn, going to need to cop 2-3 sets...
I couldn’t help but notice in the lower left of this insta post from spitfire, I see a Radial Slim package
https://www.instagram.com/p/ChGL8hovaCs/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
Radial slim on Tactics
https://www.tactics.com/spitfire/formula-four-radial-slim-skateboard-wheels/venomous-101d
My local posted a photo of a huge spitfire restock yesterday and probably a third of them were radial slims, so they’re definitely back. All 101 though, not sure what the deal is with 99s.Expand QuoteI couldn’t help but notice in the lower left of this insta post from spitfire, I see a Radial Slim package
https://www.instagram.com/p/ChGL8hovaCs/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=[close]
saw them on parade earlier too, maybe 5-6 listings?
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteYo I've got to get some new wheels, been riding 56mm 99a conical fulls.
Really like them, but downside is how bulky they feel trying flip tricks & how much weight they add to my set up compared to mates' set ups.
I mainly skate bowls and ramps, but want to get into more flip tricks and street stuff.
Anyone got any recs that'd make it a bit lighter, but without slipping out in a bowl /having to pump way harder?
Cheers![close]
54mm Conical[close]
This, or OG Classics (assuming you want to stick to a conical shape). And maybe consider Titaniums if you Re riding Indys, they help a lot with making bigger setups feel lighter.[close]
Sweet cheers for the advice, can confirm that buying conicals are a nightmare (at least in UK). Only found one shop that does 54s the rest are all conical fulls.
I skate Venture Lights 5.6 Hi, been on ventures since a kid. Maybe time for a change.
... is this how gear madness starts??
They look quite chunky at that size, almost Radial Full proportions?
Damn, going to need to cop 2-3 sets...
It is really quite smart marketing on the part of Spitfire and DLX, given lots of people want a white (natural) colour Radial in about 53mm and promoting someone like Leo Baker has never been as relevant as it is right now, so overall I am pretty stoked to see these wheels come out now.
The Lacey wheels are apparently a very limited release and will just end up in a few shops.
https://glueskateboards.com/products/baker-limited-edition-spitfire-f4-wheels-54mm
limited edition black and blue set available on the glue website. think I have to get a set!
Expand Quotehttps://glueskateboards.com/products/baker-limited-edition-spitfire-f4-wheels-54mm
limited edition black and blue set available on the glue website. think I have to get a set![close]
whoa sick. there's also these blue classics that popped up
https://www.paradeworld.com/products/spitfire-formula-four-classics-leo-baker-skateboard-wheels-99a-54mm-1-7544613208320/
(https://res.cloudinary.com/dm1ikhi6x/image/upload/w_562,c_limit/q_auto:low,f_auto/products/MS03NTQ0NjEzMjA4MzIwOjEwMDEyMDM4ODU)
Expand QuoteExpand Quotehttps://glueskateboards.com/products/baker-limited-edition-spitfire-f4-wheels-54mm
limited edition black and blue set available on the glue website. think I have to get a set![close]
whoa sick. there's also these blue classics that popped up
https://www.paradeworld.com/products/spitfire-formula-four-classics-leo-baker-skateboard-wheels-99a-54mm-1-7544613208320/
(https://res.cloudinary.com/dm1ikhi6x/image/upload/w_562,c_limit/q_auto:low,f_auto/products/MS03NTQ0NjEzMjA4MzIwOjEwMDEyMDM4ODU)[close]
Sorry if I sound like "Mr Know it all" but I remember seeing those blue ones a while back when it was a big thing from "Lacey" on the previous set with roses graphic, to just "L" or "Leo" on the new promo with those wheels when they came out, so I am thinking they are just old stock still floating around.
Went by my local to check for the Leo wheels, no luck. They did have a ton of Lock-ins in stock though, so Deluxe must be sending some out again.
Seeing the Classics Full measurements again makes me wonder how relevant the 52 mm ones really are. Same width as 53 mm Classics, which will have a similar contact patch once worn down to 52 mm. I liked my Classics Full (passed them on) but am wondering if I should just go with 53 mm Classics when I am buying my next set of smaller wheels as they are much more widely available.
Yesterday I switched from my 54mm Conical Fulls back to my worn Classics (originally 54mm to about 51-52mm now) and I really noticed how bulky the Conical Fulls felt. My pop and tricks felt better on the old Classics, but I definitely liked the wider contact patch of the Conical Fulls. I'm thinking about getting some Tablets in 52mm, since those have a bigger contact patch but are still quite light. I hear/read that they ride smooth without affecting tech/flip tricks much.i had an overall pretty positive experience with tablets in 54mm 99a! liked em less than classic fulls and definitely less than radials but more than some other wheels i’ve had in the past. i’d say go for it, i
How are your experiences with those? And would you go for 99a or 101a?
i had an overall pretty positive experience with tablets in 54mm 99a! liked em less than classic fulls and definitely less than radials but more than some other wheels i’ve had in the past. i’d say go for it, iExpand QuoteYesterday I switched from my 54mm Conical Fulls back to my worn Classics (originally 54mm to about 51-52mm now) and I really noticed how bulky the Conical Fulls felt. My pop and tricks felt better on the old Classics, but I definitely liked the wider contact patch of the Conical Fulls. I'm thinking about getting some Tablets in 52mm, since those have a bigger contact patch but are still quite light. I hear/read that they ride smooth without affecting tech/flip tricks much.
How are your experiences with those? And would you go for 99a or 101a?[close]
like the slide on em and the weight reduction is nice
edit: i’d also recommend radials to you if you can find em in a smaller size. i had the 53mm skate like a girl ones and those were my most favorite ones in recent memory
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteSeeing the Classics Full measurements again makes me wonder how relevant the 52 mm ones really are. Same width as 53 mm Classics, which will have a similar contact patch once worn down to 52 mm. I liked my Classics Full (passed them on) but am wondering if I should just go with 53 mm Classics when I am buying my next set of smaller wheels as they are much more widely available.[close]
If you can deal with the size and shape to start with, they will definitely be easier to find and last a little longer, being that 1 mm bigger overall.
I have been skating some slightly used Classic 54mm wheels just to see how they add up compared to the Classic Full and I must say that they don't disappoint, that is for sure. The ride is so similar, as are the current dimensions.[close]
53mm is a great shape and you really can't tell the difference from a 52mm side by side. But skaters are anal retentive about these things, either 52 / 54mm, making 53mm the red headed step child. Works out great since you can regularly find 53mm wheels on clearance.
Yesterday I switched from my 54mm Conical Fulls back to my worn Classics (originally 54mm to about 51-52mm now) and I really noticed how bulky the Conical Fulls felt. My pop and tricks felt better on the old Classics, but I definitely liked the wider contact patch of the Conical Fulls. I'm thinking about getting some Tablets in 52mm, since those have a bigger contact patch but are still quite light. I hear/read that they ride smooth without affecting tech/flip tricks much.
How are your experiences with those? And would you go for 99a or 101a?
that's the experience i hadExpand QuoteYesterday I switched from my 54mm Conical Fulls back to my worn Classics (originally 54mm to about 51-52mm now) and I really noticed how bulky the Conical Fulls felt. My pop and tricks felt better on the old Classics, but I definitely liked the wider contact patch of the Conical Fulls. I'm thinking about getting some Tablets in 52mm, since those have a bigger contact patch but are still quite light. I hear/read that they ride smooth without affecting tech/flip tricks much.
How are your experiences with those? And would you go for 99a or 101a?[close]
The tablet shapes really freak me out and they look so weird on boards. Interested to hear some feedback on them. I imagine they’d be great for locking in on grinds, but maybe not as good for scooped flip tricks with such a hard edge
Yesterday I switched from my 54mm Conical Fulls back to my worn Classics (originally 54mm to about 51-52mm now) and I really noticed how bulky the Conical Fulls felt. My pop and tricks felt better on the old Classics, but I definitely liked the wider contact patch of the Conical Fulls. I'm thinking about getting some Tablets in 52mm, since those have a bigger contact patch but are still quite light. I hear/read that they ride smooth without affecting tech/flip tricks much.
How are your experiences with those? And would you go for 99a or 101a?
But skaters are anal retentive about these things, either 52 / 54mm, making 53mm the red headed step child.
I don’t get the conical full hype. But I did enjoy the time I had on conical regular. But classics slightly big then wear them down is the way for me.
Had some radials in the past but they was 101 didn’t mind them but 101 was too hard and 99a was hard to find til now. So I’m trying not to by the Leo baker ones cause I don’t need them but damn I want them. Seem like a Goldilocks wheel size snd shape.
All right, I went to our local shop this afternoon and decided to go with the regular Conicals in 52mm and 99a. They seemed like a good balance between wide riding surface, fairly low weight, and still a rounded edge that can help make flip tricks, scooping and reverting a little easier. I kept some of your guys comment in mind about the sharp edge, and seeing both wheels in the shop clearly showed the sharp edge of the tablets.
I haven’t really ridden them yet, apart from the few hundred yards to the skatepark that was still way to wet from the rain :P On that surface (mostly rough tiles and stones), they felt smoother than my old classics :) I’ll give my first impression after I skated them a bit :)
Has anyone here tried the glow in the dark conical fulls? My shop only has the 56s in those and I’m considering them unless they’re notable worse and I should just wait for the next dropmy friend that I work with at the shop has them and he loves them and says they don't feel any different at all and that he'll probably get another set when the time comes
Oh my god they finally fucking made some colored classics.
60 MM CONICAL FULL!!!
Spitfire is just gonna start selling a solid brick of urethane with a hole for bearings and im ready for it.
60 MM CONICAL FULL!!!
Spitfire is just gonna start selling a solid brick of urethane with a hole for bearings and im ready for it.
Expand Quote60 MM CONICAL FULL!!!
Spitfire is just gonna start selling a solid brick of urethane with a hole for bearings and im ready for it.[close]
Lol for real. The 56mm Radial Full was huge enough. I like bigger wheels and it was too much for me to handle. I can't even imagine olling up a small ledge with some wide 60mm behemoths like that.
It seems to me that black wheels are kind of on trend for younger folks. I don't get it and also dunno why they gotta pick on poor old radials but I think this is why.Expand QuoteOh my god they finally fucking made some colored classics.[close]
They did 2 drops ago, Chorma series.
I'm surprised they still do black wheels. I guess they sell? I own some black conicals only due to availability. Like with this drop, if you want a 101 radial, black is the only option. Plus BONES just did a black drop...
Interesting to see Radial slims hit the shops yet not in the drops.
Expand QuoteExpand Quote60 MM CONICAL FULL!!!
Spitfire is just gonna start selling a solid brick of urethane with a hole for bearings and im ready for it.[close]
Lol for real. The 56mm Radial Full was huge enough. I like bigger wheels and it was too much for me to handle. I can't even imagine olling up a small ledge with some wide 60mm behemoths like that.[close]
60mm conical fulls would add 4 pounds to the setup, probably a good calf workout to get the whole setup off the ground
It seems to me that black wheels are kind of on trend for younger folks. I don't get it and also dunno why they gotta pick on poor old radials but I think this is why.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteOh my god they finally fucking made some colored classics.[close]
They did 2 drops ago, Chorma series.
I'm surprised they still do black wheels. I guess they sell? I own some black conicals only due to availability. Like with this drop, if you want a 101 radial, black is the only option. Plus BONES just did a black drop...
Interesting to see Radial slims hit the shops yet not in the drops.[close]
Expand QuoteIt seems to me that black wheels are kind of on trend for younger folks. I don't get it and also dunno why they gotta pick on poor old radials but I think this is why.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteOh my god they finally fucking made some colored classics.[close]
They did 2 drops ago, Chorma series.
I'm surprised they still do black wheels. I guess they sell? I own some black conicals only due to availability. Like with this drop, if you want a 101 radial, black is the only option. Plus BONES just did a black drop...
Interesting to see Radial slims hit the shops yet not in the drops.[close][close]
I can't do black wheels, but I guess if you weren't raised on "no black wheels ever", then it makes a lot of sense. White/off white and light coloured wheels get dirty pretty quick, especially if you skate dirty/crusty spots. Thats never an issue with black wheels
If I had to guess, maybe in T-funks case, and possibly others...when you're filming, getting clips, etc., you might need something different for that 'one spot' or to flesh out your part. Tech here, gnarhesh there.
No one is doing that China Banks ollie on 51mm wheels, that's for damn sure...knowwhati'msaying?
Are these bubbles anything to worry about? I sent an email and they haven't been able to get back to me yet.
https://i.imgur.com/hcOf9AK.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/eWAShL6.jpg
Are these bubbles anything to worry about? I sent an email and they haven't been able to get back to me yet.
https://i.imgur.com/hcOf9AK.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/eWAShL6.jpg
spanky had an orange conical in 99a f4 54mm not long ago.I'm skating a pair of them right now. I really like the way they look and they feel no different than regular off white f4. I also have a pair of the blue skate like a girl radials.
Expand QuoteIf I had to guess, maybe in T-funks case, and possibly others...when you're filming, getting clips, etc., you might need something different for that 'one spot' or to flesh out your part. Tech here, gnarhesh there.
No one is doing that China Banks ollie on 51mm wheels, that's for damn sure...knowwhati'msaying?[close]
I will say, having just recently skates at China banks, my 50mm-ish conicals handles the brick fairly well. I was definitely concerned I was going to have a much harder time skating but it’s actually decently smooth and the 99 F4 still grips pretty well.
Now T-Funk is an insane person and I still think it’s impossible he Ollied a long bench, that’s Hollywood magic. If he wants to ride 56-60mm wheels that’s because he’s super strong, super gnarly, and did I mention insane
(https://i.imgur.com/mH3ZsoZ.jpg)
Is a gash like this normal on F4s? They are OG Classics and only about a few months old. Riding on pretty crappy asphalt and smooth skateparks. I have some F4 Classics that are more worn but don't have any gashes like this. Thanks!
(https://i.imgur.com/mH3ZsoZ.jpg)
Is a gash like this normal on F4s? They are OG Classics and only about a few months old. Riding on pretty crappy asphalt and smooth skateparks. I have some F4 Classics that are more worn but don't have any gashes like this. Thanks!
anyone got a lead on where i can buy those 48mm F4s that Chico is selling with his newest deck? Spitfire also posted an ig story a couple weeks ago about how they messed up sending a box of those to one of their riders who actually wanted 58s. So it seems they exist in decent quantities but they're not popping up in any shops and they're not in the newest catalog...
Too early to say for sure, but I’m mildly disappointed in 97a F4s. I’m a regular soft wheel(95-97a) user and I’m not feeling it. Speed and grip are ok, but they feel dead. Is the lack of bounce a feature for folks that like hard wheels? They’re classics, which I haven’t ridden in years, and one of the few sessions I had was on super smooth, clean concrete so they may grow on me.
anyone got a lead on where i can buy those 48mm F4s that Chico is selling with his newest deck? Spitfire also posted an ig story a couple weeks ago about how they messed up sending a box of those to one of their riders who actually wanted 58s. So it seems they exist in decent quantities but they're not popping up in any shops and they're not in the newest catalog...
Oh damn, I checked for that before posting here, wonder if he just put those up. Sold! Thank you!Expand Quoteanyone got a lead on where i can buy those 48mm F4s that Chico is selling with his newest deck? Spitfire also posted an ig story a couple weeks ago about how they messed up sending a box of those to one of their riders who actually wanted 58s. So it seems they exist in decent quantities but they're not popping up in any shops and they're not in the newest catalog...[close]
They're on his website for $25 a set
https://www.chicostix.com/products/48mm-spitfire-classic-shape
https://www.chicostix.com/products/50mm-spitfire-tablet-shape
Ooh I remember those. Super nice and nimble on perfect ground. Basically useless on anything rough
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Just doing a bit of looking around for something else and came across this, for those of you who would want a thinner classic wheel again.
Spitfire catalog from Spring 2016
https://www.dlxsf.com/spring16/sf.html
Open the image for a clear view of all the dimensions
https://www.dlxsf.com/spring16/img/spring16/sf/02-spitfire-sp16-dr2-desktop.jpg
(https://www.dlxsf.com/spring16/img/spring16/sf/02-spitfire-sp16-dr2-desktop.jpg)
I think navarrette would have the same shape as the mandersons but in 58-60s. (Altho way before 2016) was that the longest running pro wheel? Feel like I had the mandersons in 2011 or something
Does anyone know if the radial fulls were only a one time release?? Fallen in love with em & couldn't stock up at any of the locals when they were in
I think navarrette would have the same shape as the mandersons but in 58-60s. (Altho way before 2016) was that the longest running pro wheel? Feel like I had the mandersons in 2011 or something
Does anyone know if the radial fills were only a one time release?? Fallen in love with em & couldn't stock up at any of the locals when they were inthey were in prebooks for winter or spring i don’t remember.
Back on F4 classics again after skating a set of Bones STF v3s for a few months... boy it's good to be home.How do they compare? 99 or 103 stf? Never had f4 classics before because they get so stupid wide above 52 or so, but I'm curious.
Any Radial first-timers pick up the 53mm's and have first impressions?
Had some 52s and 55s in the past but 53s seem perfect.
Expand QuoteAny Radial first-timers pick up the 53mm's and have first impressions?
Had some 52s and 55s in the past but 53s seem perfect.[close]
Not a first timer, just love radials.
AmenExpand QuoteExpand QuoteAny Radial first-timers pick up the 53mm's and have first impressions?
Had some 52s and 55s in the past but 53s seem perfect.[close]
Not a first timer, just love radials.[close]
53mm is the perfect
size for a radial, can’t go wrong
99a STF vs 99a F4 ClassicI agree with everything being written.
The F4s slide a bit easier and have much less of a bark to them on concrete, in terms of hardness I'd say they are about comparable.
I didn't mind the STF at all and got pretty used to them, the slim profile works great for flatground... but I do welcome the extra slide on the F4s, nice to have it there when you need it.
Can someone impart some sage SLAP wisdom on a young padiwan real quick? Just looking for an overview on what each shape is best suited for.
Currently running 99a 52mm classics on my main board. I pretty much only skate park right now. Wondering if I should go up to 101 duro, or if a larger wheel or different shape would help me lock into smiths better.
I sure hope they bring back 50 and 51mm in future drops. I could run out now and stock up in 51mm Classics but I really don’t need to spend that money.I'm in this boat as well
Expand QuoteCan someone impart some sage SLAP wisdom on a young padiwan real quick? Just looking for an overview on what each shape is best suited for.
Currently running 99a 52mm classics on my main board. I pretty much only skate park right now. Wondering if I should go up to 101 duro, or if a larger wheel or different shape would help me lock into smiths better.[close]
Conicals, radials, or lock ins could help you lock in better on your smiths. Classics have the roundest edge so they’re going to lock in the least. Harder wheel will help with slides, bigger wheel for speed.
Expand QuoteCan someone impart some sage SLAP wisdom on a young padiwan real quick? Just looking for an overview on what each shape is best suited for.
Currently running 99a 52mm classics on my main board. I pretty much only skate park right now. Wondering if I should go up to 101 duro, or if a larger wheel or different shape would help me lock into smiths better.[close]
Conicals, radials, or lock ins could help you lock in better on your smiths. Classics have the roundest edge so they’re going to lock in the least. Harder wheel will help with slides, bigger wheel for speed.
Gotta admit, no regular packaging with the label card kinda bummed me out, but nevertheless happy to have these. 53mm Radials seem like the perfect combo
(https://i.imgur.com/4OuFQF9.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/tNJUci9.jpg?1)
Gotta admit, no regular packaging with the label card kinda bummed me out, but nevertheless happy to have these. 53mm Radials seem like the perfect combo53 radials are great! these look surprisingly white for F4s lol
(https://i.imgur.com/4OuFQF9.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/tNJUci9.jpg?1)
53 radials are great! these look surprisingly white for F4s lolExpand QuoteGotta admit, no regular packaging with the label card kinda bummed me out, but nevertheless happy to have these. 53mm Radials seem like the perfect combo[close]
First they took the sticker, now it’s the packaging and the wheels only get more expensive.
the sticker is back in now!Expand QuoteFirst they took the sticker, now it’s the packaging and the wheels only get more expensive.[close]
We live in a society
First they took the sticker, now it’s the packaging and the wheels only get more expensive.
Is it the big head sticker or the black strip that just says spitfire? Cause the latter is trash hahathe sticker is back in now!Expand QuoteExpand QuoteFirst they took the sticker, now it’s the packaging and the wheels only get more expensive.[close]
We live in a society[close]
Is it the big head sticker or the black strip that just says spitfire? Cause the latter is trash hahaExpand Quotethe sticker is back in now!Expand QuoteExpand QuoteFirst they took the sticker, now it’s the packaging and the wheels only get more expensive.[close]
We live in a society[close][close]
Is it the big head sticker or the black strip that just says spitfire? Cause the latter is trash hahaExpand Quotethe sticker is back in now!Expand QuoteExpand QuoteFirst they took the sticker, now it’s the packaging and the wheels only get more expensive.[close]
We live in a society[close][close]
Is it the big head sticker or the black strip that just says spitfire? Cause the latter is trash hahaExpand Quotethe sticker is back in now!Expand QuoteExpand QuoteFirst they took the sticker, now it’s the packaging and the wheels only get more expensive.[close]
We live in a society[close][close]
Expand QuoteIs it the big head sticker or the black strip that just says spitfire? Cause the latter is trash hahaExpand Quotethe sticker is back in now!Expand QuoteExpand QuoteFirst they took the sticker, now it’s the packaging and the wheels only get more expensive.[close]
We live in a society[close][close][close]
I got a bighead sticker with my glow in the dark conical fulls this summer
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteIs it the big head sticker or the black strip that just says spitfire? Cause the latter is trash hahaExpand Quotethe sticker is back in now!Expand QuoteExpand QuoteFirst they took the sticker, now it’s the packaging and the wheels only get more expensive.[close]
We live in a society[close][close][close]
I got a bighead sticker with my glow in the dark conical fulls this summer[close]
usually the conical fulls come with that black sticker, classics have the big head sticker and og classics have the wheel with wings sticker
Got a set of OG Classics and all four wobble, one being really noticeable and is dragging the bearings. Is it worth waiting for a warranty? Just checked the 97a conicals I've had for a while and they wobble too but not as bad as the new OG's, guess I didn't notice or care when I set them up.
Expand QuoteGot a set of OG Classics and all four wobble, one being really noticeable and is dragging the bearings. Is it worth waiting for a warranty? Just checked the 97a conicals I've had for a while and they wobble too but not as bad as the new OG's, guess I didn't notice or care when I set them up.[close]
I'm also having really bad wobble on a new set of radials, only a single wheel. Spitfire ignored my warranty claims (sent 2, a week apart) and instagram messages for 2 weeks so far. These things are stupid expensive in europe so I'm not gonna cut them any slack for this shit
Hello, I’m new here. I’m a 35 year old big boi just getting back into skating again. Its been about 20 years and 100 pounds.
I got the F4 57mm Oski Radials as part of my bday gifts. I really wanted conical fulls but Titus only stocked these.
Look sick, if you’re into that kind of graphic.
(https://i.ibb.co/yNkgRnt/CD74-E53-C-371-A-438-D-AF1-A-F1-ED540-D2-F94.jpg) (https://ibb.co/yNkgRnt)
Hello, I’m new here. I’m a 35 year old big boi just getting back into skating again. Its been about 20 years and 100 pounds.
I got the F4 57mm Oski Radials as part of my bday gifts. I really wanted conical fulls but Titus only stocked these.
Look sick, if you’re into that kind of graphic.
(https://i.ibb.co/yNkgRnt/CD74-E53-C-371-A-438-D-AF1-A-F1-ED540-D2-F94.jpg) (https://ibb.co/yNkgRnt)
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteGot a set of OG Classics and all four wobble, one being really noticeable and is dragging the bearings. Is it worth waiting for a warranty? Just checked the 97a conicals I've had for a while and they wobble too but not as bad as the new OG's, guess I didn't notice or care when I set them up.[close]
I'm also having really bad wobble on a new set of radials, only a single wheel. Spitfire ignored my warranty claims (sent 2, a week apart) and instagram messages for 2 weeks so far. These things are stupid expensive in europe so I'm not gonna cut them any slack for this shit[close]
Did you get yours replaced on warranty? I have 3 sets of spitfire that wobble,not cheap in Europe at all and spitfire doesn't reply at all. I can't understand how they can mess up like this s big wheel company. Luckily we have Bones Ricta and oj and many many more companies!
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteGot a set of OG Classics and all four wobble, one being really noticeable and is dragging the bearings. Is it worth waiting for a warranty? Just checked the 97a conicals I've had for a while and they wobble too but not as bad as the new OG's, guess I didn't notice or care when I set them up.[close]
I'm also having really bad wobble on a new set of radials, only a single wheel. Spitfire ignored my warranty claims (sent 2, a week apart) and instagram messages for 2 weeks so far. These things are stupid expensive in europe so I'm not gonna cut them any slack for this shit[close]
Did you get yours replaced on warranty? I have 3 sets of spitfire that wobble,not cheap in Europe at all and spitfire doesn't reply at all. I can't understand how they can mess up like this s big wheel company. Luckily we have Bones Ricta and oj and many many more companies![close]
Nope, they never responded. But I kind of fixed it. Here's how:
I just sanded the bearing seat a lot, took out some material with a knife too. Then put in some old bearings+spacers, screwed the nut on as tight as possible and rolled around to break in the new bearing seat. Bearings got destroyed very quickly by that but it somehow actually worked. I can ride them now, but it still keeps me from buying spitfire again.
50/51 mm F4 classics seem to be non existent these days. Did they stop making these?
(https://i.imgur.com/A1xftvJ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/PVSddXZ.jpg)
My latest setup felt nearly perfect but I thought 58mm classics were a bit small...
I checked out my local skate shop yesterday for the latest spitfire drop — I was interested in the Kanfoush Spitfire F4 Conical Fulls in 60 but that specific shop location didn't have them yet so I picked up 60mm F4 classics instead. Holy fuck these wheels are perfect! I recently learned frontside 5050's and I had one of my best sessions yet on these wheels last night, a clean grind while going fast is a brand new feeling and I'm so stoked to skate again tonight :-*
Expand Quote50/51 mm F4 classics seem to be non existent these days. Did they stop making these?[close]
51mm are still available, seen them available in a few online retailers.
50/51mm were available in Classics / Tablets under the Lil Smokies line, but that was 2-3 seasons ago, I'm sure they are still floating around.
Expand QuoteHello, I’m new here. I’m a 35 year old big boi just getting back into skating again. Its been about 20 years and 100 pounds.
I got the F4 57mm Oski Radials as part of my bday gifts. I really wanted conical fulls but Titus only stocked these.
Look sick, if you’re into that kind of graphic.
(https://i.ibb.co/yNkgRnt/CD74-E53-C-371-A-438-D-AF1-A-F1-ED540-D2-F94.jpg) (https://ibb.co/yNkgRnt)[close]
Shouldn't you but adverts somewhere else?!
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteGot a set of OG Classics and all four wobble, one being really noticeable and is dragging the bearings. Is it worth waiting for a warranty? Just checked the 97a conicals I've had for a while and they wobble too but not as bad as the new OG's, guess I didn't notice or care when I set them up.[close]
I'm also having really bad wobble on a new set of radials, only a single wheel. Spitfire ignored my warranty claims (sent 2, a week apart) and instagram messages for 2 weeks so far. These things are stupid expensive in europe so I'm not gonna cut them any slack for this shit[close]
Did you get yours replaced on warranty? I have 3 sets of spitfire that wobble,not cheap in Europe at all and spitfire doesn't reply at all. I can't understand how they can mess up like this s big wheel company. Luckily we have Bones Ricta and oj and many many more companies![close]
Nope, they never responded. But I kind of fixed it. Here's how:
I just sanded the bearing seat a lot, took out some material with a knife too. Then put in some old bearings+spacers, screwed the nut on as tight as possible and rolled around to break in the new bearing seat. Bearings got destroyed very quickly by that but it somehow actually worked. I can ride them now, but it still keeps me from buying spitfire again.[close]
The shop where any of you bought Spitfire wheels from is where you should take them back to if you have any issues.
It is pretty simple really when you do that, they usually sort out new ones if the ones you have are faulty and are definitely covered under warranty for that sort of thing.
Just sending a message (that may never actually be seen) and then complaining about it on the internet really only leaves you short, but from being in a shop situation and knowing how distributors work, including those outside of the USA, it is definitely the best and fastest way to get a decent resolution for anything.
Not trying to be a dick, just trying to help explain how things work.
That said, yes there have definitely been more issues lately with Spitfire wheels, but the faulty set that came through my hands recently from a friend who didn't know what to do with them was replaced quickly and easily here in AU from the shop they were bought from.
There is no way whatsoever that this wobbly wheel would have taken a bearing and worked without a whole lot of effort, so as per anything that doesn't perform to expectations, warranty through the place of purchase is the correct course of action to take.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteGot a set of OG Classics and all four wobble, one being really noticeable and is dragging the bearings. Is it worth waiting for a warranty? Just checked the 97a conicals I've had for a while and they wobble too but not as bad as the new OG's, guess I didn't notice or care when I set them up.[close]
I'm also having really bad wobble on a new set of radials, only a single wheel. Spitfire ignored my warranty claims (sent 2, a week apart) and instagram messages for 2 weeks so far. These things are stupid expensive in europe so I'm not gonna cut them any slack for this shit[close]
Did you get yours replaced on warranty? I have 3 sets of spitfire that wobble,not cheap in Europe at all and spitfire doesn't reply at all. I can't understand how they can mess up like this s big wheel company. Luckily we have Bones Ricta and oj and many many more companies![close]
Nope, they never responded. But I kind of fixed it. Here's how:
I just sanded the bearing seat a lot, took out some material with a knife too. Then put in some old bearings+spacers, screwed the nut on as tight as possible and rolled around to break in the new bearing seat. Bearings got destroyed very quickly by that but it somehow actually worked. I can ride them now, but it still keeps me from buying spitfire again.
Okay may be so but it says on the package and on the home page if it's a manufacturer fault,that you should contact them on their mail.
But maybe it's a so big number of wheels that is faulty that they can't handle it,at least they could have replied to contact dealer instead then.
Thanks for your reply anyway 👍🙂
SW got dem blk radials101a :'(
https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Spitfire_Formula_Four_Blackout_Radial_101a_Wheels/descpage-SF4BRWH.html
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Okay may be so but it says on the package and on the home page if it's a manufacturer fault,that you should contact them on their mail.
But maybe it's a so big number of wheels that is faulty that they can't handle it,at least they could have replied to contact dealer instead then.
Thanks for your reply anyway 👍🙂[close]
All good.
I think the only people who have really had direct interaction with DLXSF and been provided new wheels have been in the USA, with all other distributors around the world having to deal with which ever country they distribute DLX products to.
That is the case here in Australia, as well as hearing from quite a few others on here in other parts of the world, UK, EU and so on.
It does make it difficult for a person though if they expect to have the direct approach (as per the information provided) only to be told to go a different route.
Every other brand and distributor I have dealt with seems to be operating in a similar way in that regard too - go through the local shop, to the local distro, with only the people directly affected in USA being able to get products from those USA based main brand and distribution companies.
Some need to have the actual product returned to them, while others are happy to see a picture of the product. Some replace said product, while others issue a credit to the shop account.
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Okay may be so but it says on the package and on the home page if it's a manufacturer fault,that you should contact them on their mail.
But maybe it's a so big number of wheels that is faulty that they can't handle it,at least they could have replied to contact dealer instead then.
Thanks for your reply anyway 👍🙂[close]
All good.
I think the only people who have really had direct interaction with DLXSF and been provided new wheels have been in the USA, with all other distributors around the world having to deal with which ever country they distribute DLX products to.
That is the case here in Australia, as well as hearing from quite a few others on here in other parts of the world, UK, EU and so on.
It does make it difficult for a person though if they expect to have the direct approach (as per the information provided) only to be told to go a different route.
Every other brand and distributor I have dealt with seems to be operating in a similar way in that regard too - go through the local shop, to the local distro, with only the people directly affected in USA being able to get products from those USA based main brand and distribution companies.
Some need to have the actual product returned to them, while others are happy to see a picture of the product. Some replace said product, while others issue a credit to the shop account.[close]
they replaced my set of wheels and i live in poland, but that was about 3-4 years ago
I'm pretty sure I'm set with my new 54 Conicals however I just had some 56 radial fulls and these wheels were so massive I kept getting hurt on them.
Doing some research I found the contact patch on the 56 Radial Fulls was something like 26 compared to my current 20-21 on the Conicals.
I don't see Radial Fulls in the lineup anymore and for good reason probably
I'm pretty sure I'm set with my new 54 Conicals however I just had some 56 radial fulls and these wheels were so massive I kept getting hurt on them.
Doing some research I found the contact patch on the 56 Radial Fulls was something like 26 compared to my current 20-21 on the Conicals.
I don't see Radial Fulls in the lineup anymore and for good reason probably
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they replaced my set of wheels and i live in poland, but that was about 3-4 years ago[close]
Same is Spain, opened a thread and someone from DLX contact me. After sending an email to DLX someone from the distribution in Spain offered me a replacement set without problem or showing any receipt, just pictures.
I sure hope the radial fulls don't go away, I'm still riding my 58mm that are probably 56-57mm by now and they're such a fucking bad ass wheel.
Expand QuoteI'm pretty sure I'm set with my new 54 Conicals however I just had some 56 radial fulls and these wheels were so massive I kept getting hurt on them.
Doing some research I found the contact patch on the 56 Radial Fulls was something like 26 compared to my current 20-21 on the Conicals.
I don't see Radial Fulls in the lineup anymore and for good reason probably[close]
Radial fulls were and are the truth… Tre flips are damn near impossible with those wide bastards & ace 55’s (I just suck at that fucking trick) but damn, the Toronto crust felt like a joke for once with those… Honestly loved those wheels & going back to conical fulls / 58 & 60 OG classics they feel squirrelly compared to the radial fulls. Canadian roads are shit & we need those wide bastards, look how wide of wheels Nick bosiero skates
(https://i.imgur.com/zwxvAYI.jpg)
got a safety pin stuck in my wheel, pretty cool. was luckily able to pull it out without it breaking.
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got a safety pin stuck in my wheel, pretty cool. was luckily able to pull it out without it breaking.[close]
Spitfire Punk as @#$%!
I had to submit a warranty for a set of Radial Slims I bought. It’s the first time in almost 25 years of skating that I submitted a warranty claim. My bearings wouldn’t sit inside the hub on two wheels. The bearing separator was too wide. I contacted Cameron at DLX and he got back to me within a few hours. Within a few days the replacement wheels showed up. Unfortunately the same thing happened with the replacement wheels. I had a big brain moment though and kept the two good wheels from each set and sent back the two bad wheels from each set. Something tells me whatever mold they have for that wheel might be out of alignment or something. Anyways the quickness of the response and the customer service is exactly what I’d expect from DLX and further proves to me that they’re the best in skating
97a that much smoother than 99 on Asphalt? Not flyover state crust asphalt, I'd say your normal parking lots at the slappy spot and the decent street in front of my house. Dragons gripping got pretty annoying.
I’d still pick 99s (or the dragons) in that scenario over the 97s, they can’t match the slides of either.
Expand Quote97a that much smoother than 99 on Asphalt? Not flyover state crust asphalt, I'd say your normal parking lots at the slappy spot and the decent street in front of my house. Dragons gripping got pretty annoying.[close]Expand QuoteI’d still pick 99s (or the dragons) in that scenario over the 97s, they can’t match the slides of either.[close]
How are the dragons grippy exactly? I'm just about to buy a pair.
Grippy on Tre flip scoops? Or grippy on slides ?
Ok y'all got me convinced to setup my last set of Radial Slims
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Ok y'all got me convinced to setup my last set of Radial Slims[close]
Were they the 54mm 99 duro ones from me?
At least they were from before pandemic dramas and all the current wheel issues, so I have no doubt they would be ok, but for anyone else stockpiling wheels from current drops, I would definitely be getting them out and checking they all fit bearings correctly.
The last thing I would want to have happen is however long down the track I think "Ok I can set up this last set or two I had saved for however long" only to find that one or more of the wheels had bearing seat issues.
At least warranty claims are good within certain timeframes, especially if they are still new, but it is hard to return something that is from more than a few months ago, even if they are still unused, as new old stock is not covered under any normal warranty.
Expand QuoteExpand Quote97a that much smoother than 99 on Asphalt? Not flyover state crust asphalt, I'd say your normal parking lots at the slappy spot and the decent street in front of my house. Dragons gripping got pretty annoying.[close]Expand QuoteI’d still pick 99s (or the dragons) in that scenario over the 97s, they can’t match the slides of either.[close]
How are the dragons grippy exactly? I'm just about to buy a pair.
Grippy on Tre flip scoops? Or grippy on slides ?[close]
Tre flip scoop is fine, powerslides and reverts are also fine for me. Sidewalls grippy on grinds on certain surfaces (less porous concrete, metal edges, round rails etc), and sometimes also grippy on lip/nose/blunt/tailslides on certain ledges.
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Ok y'all got me convinced to setup my last set of Radial Slims[close]
Were they the 54mm 99 duro ones from me?
At least they were from before pandemic dramas and all the current wheel issues, so I have no doubt they would be ok, but for anyone else stockpiling wheels from current drops, I would definitely be getting them out and checking they all fit bearings correctly.
The last thing I would want to have happen is however long down the track I think "Ok I can set up this last set or two I had saved for however long" only to find that one or more of the wheels had bearing seat issues.
At least warranty claims are good within certain timeframes, especially if they are still new, but it is hard to return something that is from more than a few months ago, even if they are still unused, as new old stock is not covered under any normal warranty.[close]
Lol sounds like a twilight zone episode. Finally has all the time in the world to skate... But the bearing seats are defective.
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Ok y'all got me convinced to setup my last set of Radial Slims[close]
Were they the 54mm 99 duro ones from me?
At least they were from before pandemic dramas and all the current wheel issues, so I have no doubt they would be ok, but for anyone else stockpiling wheels from current drops, I would definitely be getting them out and checking they all fit bearings correctly.
The last thing I would want to have happen is however long down the track I think "Ok I can set up this last set or two I had saved for however long" only to find that one or more of the wheels had bearing seat issues.
At least warranty claims are good within certain timeframes, especially if they are still new, but it is hard to return something that is from more than a few months ago, even if they are still unused, as new old stock is not covered under any normal warranty.[close]
Lol sounds like a twilight zone episode. Finally has all the time in the world to skate... But the bearing seats are defective.[close]
Ha yeah for sure.
For all those hoarders that keep an endless supply of their favourite wheels, packaging mint, stored away, I would definitely be going through and checking those wheels.
Oshit that was quick and they are wider than expected. Are they dropping the OG radials? since there's still 8 shapes on that
Oshit that was quick and they are wider than expected. Are they dropping the OG radials? since there's still 8 shapes on that
Ha, I've never even heard of the classic slims. Must look like a street bike tire version of a skate wheel. 15 mm riding surface on a 56 lol?
Expand QuoteOshit that was quick and they are wider than expected. Are they dropping the OG radials? since there's still 8 shapes on that[close]
well slap is well referenced on google it seems
because this pic is from page 128 8)
Might be of interest. Size/shape chart from my latest purchase.
radial fulls lookin like a pixar mom. THICK
I like the shape of radials but the what's the point riding them when you get pretty much the same width with conical fulls and less weight?
rounded edges
basically a worn down classic right from the jump
Lil Smokies back on the shelves in a couple of different shapes.I wrote to them saying it's a ripoff to price these at $40, they're supposed to be a pricepoint wheel. Can still get the 50mm tablets from Chico's webstore for $25 ($33 after shipping)
Highly recommended for BPSW style set ups.
https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Spitfire_F4_Lil_Smokies_Tablet_99a_Wheels/descpage-SFLSTWH.html (https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Spitfire_F4_Lil_Smokies_Tablet_99a_Wheels/descpage-SFLSTWH.html)
I wrote to them saying it's a ripoff to price these at $40, they're supposed to be a pricepoint wheel. Can still get the 50mm tablets from Chico's webstore for $25 ($33 after shipping)Expand QuoteLil Smokies back on the shelves in a couple of different shapes.
Highly recommended for BPSW style set ups.
https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Spitfire_F4_Lil_Smokies_Tablet_99a_Wheels/descpage-SFLSTWH.html (https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Spitfire_F4_Lil_Smokies_Tablet_99a_Wheels/descpage-SFLSTWH.html)[close]
In sweden they've been 68€ for awhile and I've seen new wholesale prices, they will be 76€ up to 56 mm, 84 for 57 and up. Dlx boards are 90-100€, Bakerboys 100-110. It's fuckedExpand QuoteI wrote to them saying it's a ripoff to price these at $40, they're supposed to be a pricepoint wheel. Can still get the 50mm tablets from Chico's webstore for $25 ($33 after shipping)Expand QuoteLil Smokies back on the shelves in a couple of different shapes.
Highly recommended for BPSW style set ups.
https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Spitfire_F4_Lil_Smokies_Tablet_99a_Wheels/descpage-SFLSTWH.html (https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Spitfire_F4_Lil_Smokies_Tablet_99a_Wheels/descpage-SFLSTWH.html)[close][close]
You guys overseas are privileged. For euroscum, like me, F4 Spits are almost always 60€\$ everywhere.
I wrote to them saying it's a ripoff to price these at $40, they're supposed to be a pricepoint wheel. Can still get the 50mm tablets from Chico's webstore for $25 ($33 after shipping)Expand QuoteLil Smokies back on the shelves in a couple of different shapes.
Highly recommended for BPSW style set ups.
https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Spitfire_F4_Lil_Smokies_Tablet_99a_Wheels/descpage-SFLSTWH.html (https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Spitfire_F4_Lil_Smokies_Tablet_99a_Wheels/descpage-SFLSTWH.html)[close]
(https://i.ibb.co/4V3s7W1/PXL-20221104-135109209.jpg) (https://ibb.co/4V3s7W1)
Made a couple of runs at wheels >54mm and always switched back. Lately been digging these 56mm AVEs (conical, not full) which pair well with wheel wells. Little less pushing at the park, a little more floating over street crust, feel exactly the same as my 54s on miniramp.
(https://i.ibb.co/4V3s7W1/PXL-20221104-135109209.jpg) (https://ibb.co/4V3s7W1)
Made a couple of runs at wheels >54mm and always switched back. Lately been digging these 56mm AVEs (conical, not full) which pair well with wheel wells. Little less pushing at the park, a little more floating over street crust, feel exactly the same as my 54s on miniramp.
Lil Smokies are back too…bunch of shapes and smaller, too. Stoked.
Dang, so there are 9 shapes in F4 now lol?
Curious about what the riding surface is for radial full 56s.
Normal radials are 21.5 mm and conical full are 25mm so somewhere in between I guess. 23mm?
new spitfire drop up on the site
97a radial fulls
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97a radial fulls[close]
Fuck, my Radial Fulls are still fresh but I think I want them in 97A. While my general setup madness is mellowing out, Spitfire is killing me with the last few drops.
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97a radial fulls[close]
Fuck, my Radial Fulls are still fresh but I think I want them in 97A. While my general setup madness is mellowing out, Spitfire is killing me with the last few drops.[close]
https://www.tactics.com/spitfire/formula-four-radial-full-skateboard-wheels/natural-97d
they got em. and they're on sale too
have rode these wheels now for about 6 weeks and they have some small chunks out of them. they are so small i cant hear them or feel them yet though, but i imagine once i hit 12-16 weeks it will be more noticble. i have heard spitfire flatspot easily but i have put these through a lot of fs slappys and nothing remotely close to a flat spot. i think that might be contributing to the chunks i have, proably just powerslid into some sharp rocks on the way on to a fs slap. so could be more the way im skating and not so much the wheels too cause i just learnd this trick few weeks ago.
I'm on those new 97a 56mm radial fulls, had a few sessions including an indoor skatepark. Definitely adds to the all terrain feel of these in this shape since they're so fat and that slightly softer durometer really smooths things out and makes everything feel less teeth chattering. Little more effort required to slide but it's nothing crazy. Highly recommend em, cheers
56mm 99a F4 Classics are the best wheel.
That is all.
Expand QuoteI'm on those new 97a 56mm radial fulls, had a few sessions including an indoor skatepark. Definitely adds to the all terrain feel of these in this shape since they're so fat and that slightly softer durometer really smooths things out and makes everything feel less teeth chattering. Little more effort required to slide but it's nothing crazy. Highly recommend em, cheers[close]
Glad to hear. I really think it was the right call to move that shape to 97a. Must feel like monster truck tires skating on that.
Any more news on their 95a? Honestly seems like that would be too soft, but I'm still curious.
Are there any fake Lock-Ins in circulation or is that just Conical Fulls? I've seen a cheap set on ebay but they look more white rather than natural.
Is there anything that will give them away as fakes just from looking at them?
As to the colour, a lot of the newer Formula Four Spitfire wheels have been a lot less natural in colour and a lot more pale, almost white, so I think they should be fine - they are brand new wheels and freshly poured is always going to be a bit lighter in colour than something that is months old, especially comparing some I have here that were pre pandemic, to more recent to freshest wheels just out.
Expand QuoteAre there any fake Lock-Ins in circulation or is that just Conical Fulls? I've seen a cheap set on ebay but they look more white rather than natural.
Is there anything that will give them away as fakes just from looking at them?[close]
At last check, I think there were really only still a few sets / options in the fake ones, Conical Full in blue graphic 99 and red graphic 101 around 52 to 54, along with some other older versions that are mismatched, eg Conical or Radial graphic on a Classic wheel and similar, as well as all those Radial Slims.
As to the colour, a lot of the newer Formula Four Spitfire wheels have been a lot less natural in colour and a lot more pale, almost white, so I think they should be fine - they are brand new wheels and freshly poured is always going to be a bit lighter in colour than something that is months old, especially comparing some I have here that were pre pandemic, to more recent to freshest wheels just out.
Is there a Big size difference between 56 conical fulls and reg conicals? Got the fulls on sale but theyre soo wide n heavy. Dummy thick.
Expand Quote56mm 99a F4 Classics are the best wheel.
That is all.[close]
try skate them skinny ass shits off rip in NYC
Is there a Big size difference between 56 conical fulls and reg conicals? Got the fulls on sale but theyre soo wide n heavy. Dummy thick.
The wheel i keep coming back to are my 52mm conicals. I kept think radials were going to do it for me but they just end up feeling sort of big and clunky.
The wheel i keep coming back to are my 52mm conicals. I kept think radials were going to do it for me but they just end up feeling sort of big and clunky.
Radials are pretty sick, just a bit clunky for my taste.
But I think they would be awesome in 50mm.
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I was rolling on the 52mm conicals for almost a year, then recently tried the 53mm Lock Ins. The Lock Ins were pretty good for some crusty spots here in the suburbs of East Berlin, but they can feel also pretty clunky sometimes.
I am curious about the 54mm conicals now, but the specs are very similar to the 53mm Lock Ins so I am hesitant to try them. Back on the 52mm Conicals which are 50mm now and I hope to roll around a bit on sunday.
Anyone have opinions on the 54mm 99a Conicals?
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteThe wheel i keep coming back to are my 52mm conicals. I kept think radials were going to do it for me but they just end up feeling sort of big and clunky.[close]
I was rolling on the 52mm conicals for almost a year, then recently tried the 53mm Lock Ins. The Lock Ins were pretty good for some crusty spots here in the suburbs of East Berlin, but they can feel also pretty clunky sometimes.
I am curious about the 54mm conicals now, but the specs are very similar to the 53mm Lock Ins so I am hesitant to try them. Back on the 52mm Conicals which are 50mm now and I hope to roll around a bit on sunday.
Anyone have opinions on the 54mm 99a Conicals?[close]
I’m
Skating 54mm 99a conical now. I love them. I was sharing 55mm classics but I think I prefer the conical shape for street. Classics was nice for coping. But just barely nicer on coping.
Radials are pretty sick, just a bit clunky for my taste.
But I think they would be awesome in 50mm.
Expand QuoteRadials are pretty sick, just a bit clunky for my taste.
But I think they would be awesome in 50mm.[close]
spitfire just re issued the “lil smokies” wheel in a conical and conical full I believe. 48mm,49mm and 50mm
I’ve only seen smokies conicals, not fulls (but would be interested). I used to run the Anderson SFWs in 50mm, those were one of my favorite wheels before F4
Yo what?! 50mm conical fulls? That sounds great. Thanks for the heads up.
* I currently have some 50mm classics on Indy 159s and that looks a bit ridiculous ^^
i dont think it looks ridiculous on 8.75 axlesExpand QuoteYo what?! 50mm conical fulls? That sounds great. Thanks for the heads up.
* I currently have some 50mm classics on Indy 159s and that looks a bit ridiculous ^^[close]
I wanted some early 90s energy on my Huffer, and I had a set of 50mm Classics, but I hear you on the tiny Classics looking funny on wide trucks, so I just snagged the 50mm/101A Conical Fulls. Here’s the look with AF1 60s.
(https://i.ibb.co/Vg63Nw3/F2-B3-D8-A4-FD26-45-A2-A402-6-C473-B4759-FC.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Vg63Nw3)
Expand QuoteYo what?! 50mm conical fulls? That sounds great. Thanks for the heads up.
* I currently have some 50mm classics on Indy 159s and that looks a bit ridiculous ^^[close]
I wanted some early 90s energy on my Huffer, and I had a set of 50mm Classics, but I hear you on the tiny Classics looking funny on wide trucks, so I just snagged the 50mm/101A Conical Fulls. Here’s the look with AF1 60s.
(https://i.ibb.co/Vg63Nw3/F2-B3-D8-A4-FD26-45-A2-A402-6-C473-B4759-FC.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Vg63Nw3)
As the width of the wheel isn't thinner due to it's size as they're just shaved down defects, just nab some 51mm spits? That's the path I went.
holiday 22 is up
https://www.spitfirewheels.com/holiday-2022/
Did the stop making og classics? I had some more 58s on deck but I ended up setting them up. I really was loving them.
For my fellow woodworkers/hobbyists:
A couple of friends bought the Evan Smith Mashup wheels and I offered to do some work on the boxes.
The boxes are made of some cheap scrap wood that's so soft that I could easily poke holes in the wood with a toothpick. That doesn't mean it's not a good project though.
It was also difficult to work on the inside of the box and the crevice where the lid slides in, so I mainly focused on the exterior of the box. Someone with more experience with me may have a workaround for that though.
holiday 22 is up
https://www.spitfirewheels.com/holiday-2022/
Expand QuoteYo what?! 50mm conical fulls? That sounds great. Thanks for the heads up.
* I currently have some 50mm classics on Indy 159s and that looks a bit ridiculous ^^[close]
I wanted some early 90s energy on my Huffer, and I had a set of 50mm Classics, but I hear you on the tiny Classics looking funny on wide trucks, so I just snagged the 50mm/101A Conical Fulls. Here’s the look with AF1 60s.
(https://i.ibb.co/Vg63Nw3/F2-B3-D8-A4-FD26-45-A2-A402-6-C473-B4759-FC.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Vg63Nw3)
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteYo what?! 50mm conical fulls? That sounds great. Thanks for the heads up.
* I currently have some 50mm classics on Indy 159s and that looks a bit ridiculous ^^[close]
I wanted some early 90s energy on my Huffer, and I had a set of 50mm Classics, but I hear you on the tiny Classics looking funny on wide trucks, so I just snagged the 50mm/101A Conical Fulls. Here’s the look with AF1 60s.
(https://i.ibb.co/Vg63Nw3/F2-B3-D8-A4-FD26-45-A2-A402-6-C473-B4759-FC.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Vg63Nw3)[close]
That setup looks awesome. I also hope I can find some Lil Smokies here in Europe soon.
holiday 22 is up
https://www.spitfirewheels.com/holiday-2022/
303 has them in stock ;DExpand Quoteholiday 22 is up
https://www.spitfirewheels.com/holiday-2022/[close]
Black 58 Conicals. Take my money.
holiday 22 is up
https://www.spitfirewheels.com/holiday-2022/
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https://www.spitfirewheels.com/holiday-2022/[close]
This thread triggers my consumerism so hard. My Radial Full 56mm 99A are not even down to 55mm and I have put in an order for the 97A variant. In my mind they’ll be even nicer on my "lazy day cruise to bowl / carve and do some flat ground tricks"-setup.
Expand QuoteExpand Quoteholiday 22 is up
https://www.spitfirewheels.com/holiday-2022/[close]
This thread triggers my consumerism so hard. My Radial Full 56mm 99A are not even down to 55mm and I have put in an order for the 97A variant. In my mind they’ll be even nicer on my "lazy day cruise to bowl / carve and do some flat ground tricks"-setup.[close]
not sure if this makes it better or worse but at least youre probably right
F4 99d Radials in 52mm and 54mm skatepark of Tampa. Didn’t see these on the holiday catalog. Went ahead and picked up a few sets
Found the OG graphic in 99d 56mm available at Modern if anyone is interested:Expand QuoteF4 99d Radials in 52mm and 54mm skatepark of Tampa. Didn’t see these on the holiday catalog. Went ahead and picked up a few sets[close]
Well SPOTted!
I did hear the 99s in the original blue graphic was coming out again in 52, 54 and 56 mm sizes, but I see on the SPOT site that they are a reverse colour, like the new 97 duro wheels. Curious when you get them if they are the background blue with silver logo or background more plain with blue logo.
Not that it matters in the slightest, given I usually take the graphic off anyway, but at least they are out there again, the 54mm size especially.
Examples:
https://spitfirewheels.com/formulafour/
(https://spitfirewheels.com/formulafour/img/radials-wheels.png)
https://skateparkoftampa.com/product/68495/Spitfire_Natural_Blue_Formula_Four_99D_Radial_Shaped_Wheels/&CID=10444
(https://skateparkoftampa.com/spot/productimages/colors/10444_68495.jpg)
Okay so whats the basic math between 99a and 101a?
99 is softer thus better for rough ground because it rebounds more so you have more speed?
101 better for park because it grips less and on the perfect ground its faster? Also it slides better on both street and park?
Fucking hell, those things are massive.
random question but if one spitfire model has to disappear forever, which one?
Expand QuoteFucking hell, those things are massive.[close]
The 56mm already felt comically large to me. I can only imagine the 60mm.Expand Quoterandom question but if one spitfire model has to disappear forever, which one?[close]
You trying to start a war in this thread? Lol. I'll bite.
Lock-ins: just skate tablets instead (in theory I'm a fan of these, but the asymmetry sucks once your wheels need to be rotated due to coning)
Radial slim: just skate classics instead (I know these have massive fans, so not these... But radial slim fans, I'm going to need you to explain why you like these better)
Radial full: selfishly because they're too big for me to put on a standard setup (but they make perfect sense for 95-97a cruiser wheels).
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteFucking hell, those things are massive.[close]
The 56mm already felt comically large to me. I can only imagine the 60mm.Expand Quoterandom question but if one spitfire model has to disappear forever, which one?[close]
You trying to start a war in this thread? Lol. I'll bite.
Lock-ins: just skate tablets instead (in theory I'm a fan of these, but the asymmetry sucks once your wheels need to be rotated due to coning)
Radial slim: just skate classics instead (I know these have massive fans, so not these... But radial slim fans, I'm going to need you to explain why you like these better)
Radial full: selfishly because they're too big for me to put on a standard setup (but they make perfect sense for 95-97a cruiser wheels).[close]
Radial slims have a wider riding surface out the gate than classics, and also lock in better. It’s one of the best shapes.
I’d probably ditch tablets, they’re so uncomfortably square you get train tracked so hard rolling parallel to cracks and don’t really lock in much better than say a radial slim and drag more. Maybe if you need absolute slimness with max riding surface when new but I’m definitely not a fan.
Or radial fulls seriously how is a conical full not cutting it for you? Shits like dumbbells on the ends of your axles
random question but if one spitfire model has to disappear forever, which one?
random question but if one spitfire model has to disappear forever, which one?
random question but if one spitfire model has to disappear forever, which one?
(https://i.imgur.com/BP5IoWL.jpg)
I will say, Radial Fulls are hilariously big and it's amazing to me guys like kader and tfunk can skate on these as well as they do. It's basically like skating with ankle weights
Expand Quoterandom question but if one spitfire model has to disappear forever, which one?[close]
Yeah lock ins can go. I don't skate tablets and I don't fully understand them, but they're at least a unique shape and I assume some people have a use for them so I'll allow them to live.
(https://i.imgur.com/BP5IoWL.jpg)
I will say, Radial Fulls are hilariously big and it's amazing to me guys like kader and tfunk can skate on these as well as they do. It's basically like skating with ankle weights
I remember hearing Tablets are the other blemish wheels and they just machine down the outside. If that's the case they should stay since they're cutting down on waste.
Frankly I can't see why Conical shapes need to exist. In what scenario is a sharply angled edge profile better than rounded? Ditch those and just have Classics, Radial Slims, Radial Fulls, maybe one other novelty shape.
I remember hearing Tablets are the other blemish wheels and they just machine down the outside. If that's the case they should stay since they're cutting down on waste.
Frankly I can't see why Conical shapes need to exist. In what scenario is a sharply angled edge profile better than rounded? Ditch those and just have Classics, Radial Slims, Radial Fulls, maybe one other novelty shape.
Expand QuoteI remember hearing Tablets are the other blemish wheels and they just machine down the outside. If that's the case they should stay since they're cutting down on waste.
Frankly I can't see why Conical shapes need to exist. In what scenario is a sharply angled edge profile better than rounded? Ditch those and just have Classics, Radial Slims, Radial Fulls, maybe one other novelty shape.[close]
Yeah there's reasons. It changes how the wheel does certain things.
They're more "stable". They are harder to make tip/tilt, and there is a more binary (definitive yes or no) when they do tip. This makes them very "predictable" when skating.
That stable flatness also makes them better for power-sliding IMO. You can really dig in your heels at speed and not worry about tipping on that radial edge.
They also lock-in more securely, which also gives them more "predictability" in that regard too.
They also do flip tricks differently. I would argue they flip worse (again, more stable) but some people like how they flip more than rounded. While more rounded/teardrop wheels have a smooth easy flip, conical wheels have a bit more of a delayed "snapped" flip off of that more "binary" edge.
On top of all of this, if they are cut deep enough, they are more lightweight than rounded wheels. Conical wheels are typically more cut out on the sides, while radial wheels tend to have more convex volume outside of the ride surface (hence higher weight:width ratio).
They're definitely worse in other ways... but overall I feel more in my comfort zone with conical wheels. I feel more in control and confident due to the above differences.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteYo what?! 50mm conical fulls? That sounds great. Thanks for the heads up.
* I currently have some 50mm classics on Indy 159s and that looks a bit ridiculous ^^[close]
I wanted some early 90s energy on my Huffer, and I had a set of 50mm Classics, but I hear you on the tiny Classics looking funny on wide trucks, so I just snagged the 50mm/101A Conical Fulls. Here’s the look with AF1 60s.
(https://i.ibb.co/Vg63Nw3/F2-B3-D8-A4-FD26-45-A2-A402-6-C473-B4759-FC.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Vg63Nw3)[close]
This is reminding me of all the EMB raw footage I've seen on YouTube of Mike Carrol and friends.
You've got to skate a ledge and barely grind in honor of them. Maybe dance between a crook and a nose slide.
Not sure how they were able to skate bricks with such small wheels.
I really like the regular Conical wheels. That cut sides are great for grinds I feel. If we could regularly get 99a Radial Slims, that would be great.
Radials, OG Classics and Lock-Ins feel a bit too clunky for me personally but i haven't tried Conical Fulls yet.
Tablets look rad, but they don't work for me and I find they drag a bit on grinds. I could do without them.
Classics feel a bit too round when new, but they are nice when they are worn down 2mm.
I learned front crooks on tablets so I'll always love them.Tablets should be kept, lock ins can go.
Ultra locked in. And I also love the way flip tricks feel with them, feels like an inbetween of a wide wheel and a v3 shape I'd say
Tablets should be kept, lock ins can go.Expand QuoteI learned front crooks on tablets so I'll always love them.
Ultra locked in. And I also love the way flip tricks feel with them, feels like an inbetween of a wide wheel and a v3 shape I'd say[close]
Why have a wheel you can't benefit from rotating?
Expand QuoteI really like the regular Conical wheels. That cut sides are great for grinds I feel. If we could regularly get 99a Radial Slims, that would be great.
Radials, OG Classics and Lock-Ins feel a bit too clunky for me personally but i haven't tried Conical Fulls yet.
Tablets look rad, but they don't work for me and I find they drag a bit on grinds. I could do without them.
Classics feel a bit too round when new, but they are nice when they are worn down 2mm.[close]
All of this; I honestly feel like I could have written that. Twinsies!
99a Conicals have become my staple spit with the lack of Radial Slims in 99a.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI really like the regular Conical wheels. That cut sides are great for grinds I feel. If we could regularly get 99a Radial Slims, that would be great.
Radials, OG Classics and Lock-Ins feel a bit too clunky for me personally but i haven't tried Conical Fulls yet.
Tablets look rad, but they don't work for me and I find they drag a bit on grinds. I could do without them.
Classics feel a bit too round when new, but they are nice when they are worn down 2mm.[close]
All of this; I honestly feel like I could have written that. Twinsies!
99a Conicals have become my staple spit with the lack of Radial Slims in 99a.[close]
I am glad to hear that. I swear by the 52mm 99a Conicals. Even the colors are awesome. Have you had experiences with Conical Fulls in 52mm? I think that would be the next wheel to try for me, then i had them all at some point.
Expand QuoteFucking hell, those things are massive.[close]
The 56mm already felt comically large to me. I can only imagine the 60mm.Expand Quoterandom question but if one spitfire model has to disappear forever, which one?[close]
You trying to start a war in this thread? Lol. I'll bite.
Lock-ins: just skate tablets instead (in theory I'm a fan of these, but the asymmetry sucks once your wheels need to be rotated due to coning)
Radial slim: just skate classics instead (I know these have massive fans, so not these... But radial slim fans, I'm going to need you to explain why you like these better)
Radial full: selfishly because they're too big for me to put on a standard setup (but they make perfect sense for 95-97a cruiser wheels).
Expand QuoteTablets should be kept, lock ins can go.Expand QuoteI learned front crooks on tablets so I'll always love them.
Ultra locked in. And I also love the way flip tricks feel with them, feels like an inbetween of a wide wheel and a v3 shape I'd say[close]
Why have a wheel you can't benefit from rotating?[close]
Who has EVER rotated their fucking lock ins for a spot??? PRESENT THEM TO ME
Expand QuoteFucking hell, those things are massive.[close]
The 56mm already felt comically large to me. I can only imagine the 60mm.Expand Quoterandom question but if one spitfire model has to disappear forever, which one?[close]
Radial slim: just skate classics instead (I know these have massive fans, so not these... But radial slim fans, I'm going to need you to explain why you like these better)
if you were to get one spitfire shape in 53mm what would it be?
personally id go with the og classics
Expand Quoteif you were to get one spitfire shape in 53mm what would it be?
personally id go with the og classics[close]
Radial Slims or Conicals
As a general rule, IMHO, the three most critical/crucial Spitfire wheels are Classics, Radial Slims, and Conicals, with the Radials being a great half-way point between Classics and Conicals. It blows my mind that Spitfire has had such minimal production of the Radial slims in recent times. Serious ball drop. Those things should be in constant production.
As to what to ditch...yeah, lock-ins, mostly because they are not reversible. Moreover, if you want a decent lock-in, go for conicals. Beyond that, Tablets and OG Classics wouldn't be missed by me. The Radial Fulls are...laughable. Full Connies...I can't understand those things for anything other big transition where'd you what some decent traction/big contact patch.
Classics. Radial Slims. Conicals. DLX, focus your production powers there.
to both of you, why conicals over og classics?Expand QuoteExpand Quoteif you were to get one spitfire shape in 53mm what would it be?
personally id go with the og classics[close]
Radial Slims or Conicals[close]Expand QuoteAs a general rule, IMHO, the three most critical/crucial Spitfire wheels are Classics, Radial Slims, and Conicals, with the Radials being a great half-way point between Classics and Conicals. It blows my mind that Spitfire has had such minimal production of the Radial slims in recent times. Serious ball drop. Those things should be in constant production.
As to what to ditch...yeah, lock-ins, mostly because they are not reversible. Moreover, if you want a decent lock-in, go for conicals. Beyond that, Tablets and OG Classics wouldn't be missed by me. The Radial Fulls are...laughable. Full Connies...I can't understand those things for anything other big transition where'd you what some decent traction/big contact patch.
Classics. Radial Slims. Conicals. DLX, focus your production powers there.[close]
Honestly, I think I'd add the Classic FULL to that line up, that way the Radial crowd would still have a fat wheel.
Radial slims are such an underrated wheel...wide patch, slim profile, nice lip, straight cut edge...
Expand QuoteExpand Quoteif you were to get one spitfire shape in 53mm what would it be?
personally id go with the og classics[close]
Radial Slims or Conicals[close]Expand QuoteAs a general rule, IMHO, the three most critical/crucial Spitfire wheels are Classics, Radial Slims, and Conicals, with the Radials being a great half-way point between Classics and Conicals. It blows my mind that Spitfire has had such minimal production of the Radial slims in recent times. Serious ball drop. Those things should be in constant production.
As to what to ditch...yeah, lock-ins, mostly because they are not reversible. Moreover, if you want a decent lock-in, go for conicals. Beyond that, Tablets and OG Classics wouldn't be missed by me. The Radial Fulls are...laughable. Full Connies...I can't understand those things for anything other big transition where'd you what some decent traction/big contact patch.
Classics. Radial Slims. Conicals. DLX, focus your production powers there.[close]
Honestly, I think I'd add the Classic FULL to that line up, that way the Radial crowd would still have a fat wheel.
Radial slims are such an underrated wheel...wide patch, slim profile, nice lip, straight cut edge...
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quoteif you were to get one spitfire shape in 53mm what would it be?
personally id go with the og classics[close]
Radial Slims or Conicals[close]Expand QuoteAs a general rule, IMHO, the three most critical/crucial Spitfire wheels are Classics, Radial Slims, and Conicals, with the Radials being a great half-way point between Classics and Conicals. It blows my mind that Spitfire has had such minimal production of the Radial slims in recent times. Serious ball drop. Those things should be in constant production.
As to what to ditch...yeah, lock-ins, mostly because they are not reversible. Moreover, if you want a decent lock-in, go for conicals. Beyond that, Tablets and OG Classics wouldn't be missed by me. The Radial Fulls are...laughable. Full Connies...I can't understand those things for anything other big transition where'd you what some decent traction/big contact patch.
Classics. Radial Slims. Conicals. DLX, focus your production powers there.[close]
Honestly, I think I'd add the Classic FULL to that line up, that way the Radial crowd would still have a fat wheel.
Radial slims are such an underrated wheel...wide patch, slim profile, nice lip, straight cut edge...[close]
Rad Slim: Possibly the most underrated wheel in skate history. Generally, I ride Classics, but that is because I know I can always get them. If Rad Slims were available, on the regular, they would probably be my go-to.
Classic Full: Great wheel...but those are even more of an ancient myth now than Rad Slims are.
to both of you, why conicals over og classics?Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quoteif you were to get one spitfire shape in 53mm what would it be?
personally id go with the og classics[close]
Radial Slims or Conicals[close]Expand QuoteAs a general rule, IMHO, the three most critical/crucial Spitfire wheels are Classics, Radial Slims, and Conicals, with the Radials being a great half-way point between Classics and Conicals. It blows my mind that Spitfire has had such minimal production of the Radial slims in recent times. Serious ball drop. Those things should be in constant production.
As to what to ditch...yeah, lock-ins, mostly because they are not reversible. Moreover, if you want a decent lock-in, go for conicals. Beyond that, Tablets and OG Classics wouldn't be missed by me. The Radial Fulls are...laughable. Full Connies...I can't understand those things for anything other big transition where'd you what some decent traction/big contact patch.
Classics. Radial Slims. Conicals. DLX, focus your production powers there.[close]
Honestly, I think I'd add the Classic FULL to that line up, that way the Radial crowd would still have a fat wheel.
Radial slims are such an underrated wheel...wide patch, slim profile, nice lip, straight cut edge...[close]
@53mm the only difference is 2mm in contact patch
at first glance at least
Also, +1 for the Classic Slim =D
(https://skateparkoftampa.com/spot/productimages/colors/3_73413.jpg)
(https://www.nativeskatestore.co.uk/images/spitfire-wheels-reynolds-street-sweepers-99du-classic-slims-formula-four-skateboard-wheels-52mm-p27595-67845_image.jpg)
if you were to get one spitfire shape in 53mm what would it be?
personally id go with the og classics
Also, +1 for the Classic Slim =D
(https://skateparkoftampa.com/spot/productimages/colors/3_73413.jpg)
(https://www.nativeskatestore.co.uk/images/spitfire-wheels-reynolds-street-sweepers-99du-classic-slims-formula-four-skateboard-wheels-52mm-p27595-67845_image.jpg)
to both of you, why conicals over og classics?Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quoteif you were to get one spitfire shape in 53mm what would it be?
personally id go with the og classics[close]
Radial Slims or Conicals[close]Expand QuoteAs a general rule, IMHO, the three most critical/crucial Spitfire wheels are Classics, Radial Slims, and Conicals, with the Radials being a great half-way point between Classics and Conicals. It blows my mind that Spitfire has had such minimal production of the Radial slims in recent times. Serious ball drop. Those things should be in constant production.
As to what to ditch...yeah, lock-ins, mostly because they are not reversible. Moreover, if you want a decent lock-in, go for conicals. Beyond that, Tablets and OG Classics wouldn't be missed by me. The Radial Fulls are...laughable. Full Connies...I can't understand those things for anything other big transition where'd you what some decent traction/big contact patch.
Classics. Radial Slims. Conicals. DLX, focus your production powers there.[close]
Honestly, I think I'd add the Classic FULL to that line up, that way the Radial crowd would still have a fat wheel.
Radial slims are such an underrated wheel...wide patch, slim profile, nice lip, straight cut edge...[close]
@53mm the only difference is 2mm in contact patch
at first glance at least
Seems like more and more shops carrying Lil Smokies for between $20 and $30 if you do some googling... Def worth trying for that price for all your Nineties Needs.
On smooth ground small wheels are just as fast as big ones, I ran a set of Lil Smokies down to 44 mm and would have been happy to keep them if it wasn‘t for the crusty spots that were getting cumbersome to navigate. I run 52 mm wheels now and struggle with ghost pop since I am not used to be that high above the ground anymore.
Expand QuoteSeems like more and more shops carrying Lil Smokies for between $20 and $30 if you do some googling... Def worth trying for that price for all your Nineties Needs.[close]
does it really make a difference in speed when you are skating on smooth ground? like for example I skate 55+ mm, but if i were to get 50mm smokies and skate a ledge in a tennis court, would it really feel slower compared to skating 55+ on same terrain/obstacle?
Id love to have a 8.25/149 thunder/50mm court setup one day
Expand QuoteOn smooth ground small wheels are just as fast as big ones, I ran a set of Lil Smokies down to 44 mm and would have been happy to keep them if it wasn‘t for the crusty spots that were getting cumbersome to navigate. I run 52 mm wheels now and struggle with ghost pop since I am not used to be that high above the ground anymore.[close]
Thanks for the info, will look into it in the future.
I got over my ghost pop frustration slump by skating the same truck/wheel setup consistently; I found if i stuck to a pair of trucks and wheels for an entire year or so I dont have that problem at all anymore (unless im tired). Idk tho
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteSeems like more and more shops carrying Lil Smokies for between $20 and $30 if you do some googling... Def worth trying for that price for all your Nineties Needs.[close]
does it really make a difference in speed when you are skating on smooth ground? like for example I skate 55+ mm, but if i were to get 50mm smokies and skate a ledge in a tennis court, would it really feel slower compared to skating 55+ on same terrain/obstacle?
Id love to have a 8.25/149 thunder/50mm court setup one day[close]
I definitely notice it, but it’s more that they don’t carry speed. I got frustrated with the 50mm 99A F4 Classics on my Huffer feeling slow even at the park, so I went to the 101A Lil’ Smokies. The harder wheels are better if they’re that small in my opinion, and I only use them on very nice ground.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteOn smooth ground small wheels are just as fast as big ones, I ran a set of Lil Smokies down to 44 mm and would have been happy to keep them if it wasn‘t for the crusty spots that were getting cumbersome to navigate. I run 52 mm wheels now and struggle with ghost pop since I am not used to be that high above the ground anymore.[close]
Thanks for the info, will look into it in the future.
I got over my ghost pop frustration slump by skating the same truck/wheel setup consistently; I found if i stuck to a pair of trucks and wheels for an entire year or so I dont have that problem at all anymore (unless im tired). Idk tho[close]
Yes I have been changing a few parameters on my setup lately, bigger wheels, forged hollows instead of hollows, and it has completely messed up my pop. Need to settle down and adjust to it now.
However, I have planned to size down from 8.5 to 8.38 on my next set up so that will take readjusting again.
Ah, the hunt for the goldilocks set up…Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteSeems like more and more shops carrying Lil Smokies for between $20 and $30 if you do some googling... Def worth trying for that price for all your Nineties Needs.[close]
does it really make a difference in speed when you are skating on smooth ground? like for example I skate 55+ mm, but if i were to get 50mm smokies and skate a ledge in a tennis court, would it really feel slower compared to skating 55+ on same terrain/obstacle?
Id love to have a 8.25/149 thunder/50mm court setup one day[close]
I definitely notice it, but it’s more that they don’t carry speed. I got frustrated with the 50mm 99A F4 Classics on my Huffer feeling slow even at the park, so I went to the 101A Lil’ Smokies. The harder wheels are better if they’re that small in my opinion, and I only use them on very nice ground.[close]
I was surprised how long I managed to keep the Lil Smokies and also ride them in relatively rough spots. I also hadn‘t really noticed how small they had actually gotten in a few months. One day I went to a spot with very rough ground that I couldn‘t skate but a dude with Dragons let me try his board. That made me realise I was limiting my spot choice with the really small wheels.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteOn smooth ground small wheels are just as fast as big ones, I ran a set of Lil Smokies down to 44 mm and would have been happy to keep them if it wasn‘t for the crusty spots that were getting cumbersome to navigate. I run 52 mm wheels now and struggle with ghost pop since I am not used to be that high above the ground anymore.[close]
Thanks for the info, will look into it in the future.
I got over my ghost pop frustration slump by skating the same truck/wheel setup consistently; I found if i stuck to a pair of trucks and wheels for an entire year or so I dont have that problem at all anymore (unless im tired). Idk tho[close]
Yes I have been changing a few parameters on my setup lately, bigger wheels, forged hollows instead of hollows, and it has completely messed up my pop. Need to settle down and adjust to it now.
However, I have planned to size down from 8.5 to 8.38 on my next set up so that will take readjusting again.
Ah, the hunt for the goldilocks set up…Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteSeems like more and more shops carrying Lil Smokies for between $20 and $30 if you do some googling... Def worth trying for that price for all your Nineties Needs.[close]
does it really make a difference in speed when you are skating on smooth ground? like for example I skate 55+ mm, but if i were to get 50mm smokies and skate a ledge in a tennis court, would it really feel slower compared to skating 55+ on same terrain/obstacle?
Id love to have a 8.25/149 thunder/50mm court setup one day[close]
I definitely notice it, but it’s more that they don’t carry speed. I got frustrated with the 50mm 99A F4 Classics on my Huffer feeling slow even at the park, so I went to the 101A Lil’ Smokies. The harder wheels are better if they’re that small in my opinion, and I only use them on very nice ground.[close]
I was surprised how long I managed to keep the Lil Smokies and also ride them in relatively rough spots. I also hadn‘t really noticed how small they had actually gotten in a few months. One day I went to a spot with very rough ground that I couldn‘t skate but a dude with Dragons let me try his board. That made me realise I was limiting my spot choice with the really small wheels.[close]
I’m a lifelong big wheel guy, and I’d say little wheels are slower in general, but: 1) they accelerate quicker so can actually feel faster in cramped quarters ii. can also feel faster when ground is just slightly rough because they make it seem spicier than it is, so you feel like you’re going faster
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteOn smooth ground small wheels are just as fast as big ones, I ran a set of Lil Smokies down to 44 mm and would have been happy to keep them if it wasn‘t for the crusty spots that were getting cumbersome to navigate. I run 52 mm wheels now and struggle with ghost pop since I am not used to be that high above the ground anymore.[close]
Thanks for the info, will look into it in the future.
I got over my ghost pop frustration slump by skating the same truck/wheel setup consistently; I found if i stuck to a pair of trucks and wheels for an entire year or so I dont have that problem at all anymore (unless im tired). Idk tho[close]
Yes I have been changing a few parameters on my setup lately, bigger wheels, forged hollows instead of hollows, and it has completely messed up my pop. Need to settle down and adjust to it now.
However, I have planned to size down from 8.5 to 8.38 on my next set up so that will take readjusting again.
Ah, the hunt for the goldilocks set up…Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteSeems like more and more shops carrying Lil Smokies for between $20 and $30 if you do some googling... Def worth trying for that price for all your Nineties Needs.[close]
does it really make a difference in speed when you are skating on smooth ground? like for example I skate 55+ mm, but if i were to get 50mm smokies and skate a ledge in a tennis court, would it really feel slower compared to skating 55+ on same terrain/obstacle?
Id love to have a 8.25/149 thunder/50mm court setup one day[close]
I definitely notice it, but it’s more that they don’t carry speed. I got frustrated with the 50mm 99A F4 Classics on my Huffer feeling slow even at the park, so I went to the 101A Lil’ Smokies. The harder wheels are better if they’re that small in my opinion, and I only use them on very nice ground.[close]
I was surprised how long I managed to keep the Lil Smokies and also ride them in relatively rough spots. I also hadn‘t really noticed how small they had actually gotten in a few months. One day I went to a spot with very rough ground that I couldn‘t skate but a dude with Dragons let me try his board. That made me realise I was limiting my spot choice with the really small wheels.[close]
I’m a lifelong big wheel guy, and I’d say little wheels are slower in general, but: 1) they accelerate quicker so can actually feel faster in cramped quarters ii. can also feel faster when ground is just slightly rough because they make it seem spicier than it is, so you feel like you’re going faster[close]
This.
Small wheels - higher acceleration (feel fast), lower top speed, higher deceleration, rougher ride. More tech and precise with tricks.
Large wheels - slower acceleration (feel slow), higher top speed, lower deceleration, smoother ride. Clunkier tricks.
This means small wheels require less pushes/force to get up to speed for traveling short distance in preparation for a trick BUT you have to push more often and continually reapply force over longer distances. That would make small wheels not as good for "no push lines" as well due to that deceleration.
You also mention small wheels feeling faster on rough ground. That's interesting and I've never thought about that. I totally understand that, though personally I associate that feeling of rough ground with deceleration.
I think you might be describing why some people think Dragons feel sluggish. They're smooth and quieter, and those feelings and sounds are associated with increased speed on hard wheels. The faster you go on a hard wheel, the louder it gets.
I think wheel width also fits into this discussion too. In theory a thinner wheel should be faster, while a wider wheel is more stable and smooth. Obviously thin wheel is also more tech, while wide wheel is clunkier.
Got some classic 53s for Christmas that I'm pretty excited for, only ridden conical fulls before so it'll be a big change but I'm excited to give them a go. Unfortunately the indoor park here is deadly slippery so I don't think I'm gonna get to try these out until the snow clears up
radials skinnier and have LESS riding surface area
Expand QuoteGot some classic 53s for Christmas that I'm pretty excited for, only ridden conical fulls before so it'll be a big change but I'm excited to give them a go. Unfortunately the indoor park here is deadly slippery so I don't think I'm gonna get to try these out until the snow clears up[close]
53 classics are close to the perfect wheel for most skating (IMHO)...except indoor parks. The smaller contact patch, plus indoor dust = super slippery.
Yo! Just posted this in the wheels thread and someone suggested i post it here, so here i am.
I tried some 54mm 101a F4 classics recently, I really liked them.
However, I really noticed the difference when riding less than optimal surfaces when compared to the 56mm 99a f4s *classics* that im used to.
My question is, do you guys think a 54mm 101a radial would be a good middle ground?
Would the extra riding surface help handle rougher terrain and maybe make them grippier compared to the 54mm 101 classic?
Thanks in advance
Expand QuoteYo! Just posted this in the wheels thread and someone suggested i post it here, so here i am.
I tried some 54mm 101a F4 classics recently, I really liked them.
However, I really noticed the difference when riding less than optimal surfaces when compared to the 56mm 99a f4s *classics* that im used to.
My question is, do you guys think a 54mm 101a radial would be a good middle ground?
Would the extra riding surface help handle rougher terrain and maybe make them grippier compared to the 54mm 101 classic?
Thanks in advance[close]
Of the options, as per my initial post earlier, how readily available are Radials in 101?
I know there are black ones out right now, but as far as any normal (not coloured) options, I don't think there are any, are there?
More just thinking out loud than anything else, re availability.
As for a direct answer, yes Radials are going to feel better than Classics, as are 53mm or even 54mm Conical Full when new, just to throw that in there as well. At least they come in both 99 and 101 in natural colour, are readily available almost anywhere, if you did want a wheel with a bit more width.
I just had a skate on a board with 56mm Classics and once they are worn down a couple of mm, they are about the same contact patch as Radials anyway (but still a slightly wider wheel) so are any of your usual 56mm Classics down in those 53-54mm sort of sizes?
What's happened to the F4 OG Classic's? Have they been discontinued? I would love to find a set, 58mm for mainly transition. Live in NZ. Some products don't make it all the way down here... They look like a great medium between conical full and classic. Graphics look sick too
Expand QuoteWhat's happened to the F4 OG Classic's? Have they been discontinued? I would love to find a set, 58mm for mainly transition. Live in NZ. Some products don't make it all the way down here... They look like a great medium between conical full and classic. Graphics look sick too[close]
i really like them but yeah they seem discontinued unfortunately
nowhere to be found in Sprind D1 & D2 catalogs, Summer D1 catalog neither
I'll check the dims later but lock-Ins Full are coming (Summer Drop) and might be a good alternative
I'll miss the swirl on those OG Classics
Here in France, new stock prices are now 65€ and will be 70€ on next drop... :-\
Stock up fellas
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteWhat's happened to the F4 OG Classic's? Have they been discontinued? I would love to find a set, 58mm for mainly transition. Live in NZ. Some products don't make it all the way down here... They look like a great medium between conical full and classic. Graphics look sick too[close]
i really like them but yeah they seem discontinued unfortunately
nowhere to be found in Sprind D1 & D2 catalogs, Summer D1 catalog neither
I'll check the dims later but lock-Ins Full are coming (Summer Drop) and might be a good alternative
I'll miss the swirl on those OG Classics
Here in France, new stock prices are now 65€ and will be 70€ on next drop... :-\
Stock up fellas[close]
at my local the prices of the new arrived ones are are sometimes even 75euro. thats just fucked up.
i should be getting some new wheels soon. thinking of trying some classics since all i skate are curbs these days and i only got the most square wheels they offer right now. Tablets and OG classics.
Love my GT OG classics 53mm, my local here in CZ still have them on sale
Expand QuoteLove my GT OG classics 53mm, my local here in CZ still have them on sale[close]
53mm at your grown age *giggles*
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteWhat's happened to the F4 OG Classic's? Have they been discontinued? I would love to find a set, 58mm for mainly transition. Live in NZ. Some products don't make it all the way down here... They look like a great medium between conical full and classic. Graphics look sick too[close]
i really like them but yeah they seem discontinued unfortunately
nowhere to be found in Sprind D1 & D2 catalogs, Summer D1 catalog neither
I'll check the dims later but lock-Ins Full are coming (Summer Drop) and might be a good alternative
I'll miss the swirl on those OG Classics
Here in France, new stock prices are now 65€ and will be 70€ on next drop... :-\
Stock up fellas[close]
at my local the prices of the new arrived ones are are sometimes even 75euro. thats just fucked up.
i should be getting some new wheels soon. thinking of trying some classics since all i skate are curbs these days and i only got the most square wheels they offer right now. Tablets and OG classics.[close]
Re OG Classics, especially the 58 and 60mm sizes - I didn't see replies earlier but somewhere back in this thread (or another one) people had asked DLX and the response was they will make more in the first quarter of 2023, so should be available again just before mid year.
I would rather quote the person, so if anyone finds it, or was that person, please repost the answer again.
Thanks.
there is hopeExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteWhat's happened to the F4 OG Classic's? Have they been discontinued? I would love to find a set, 58mm for mainly transition. Live in NZ. Some products don't make it all the way down here... They look like a great medium between conical full and classic. Graphics look sick too[close]
i really like them but yeah they seem discontinued unfortunately
nowhere to be found in Sprind D1 & D2 catalogs, Summer D1 catalog neither
I'll check the dims later but lock-Ins Full are coming (Summer Drop) and might be a good alternative
I'll miss the swirl on those OG Classics
Here in France, new stock prices are now 65€ and will be 70€ on next drop... :-\
Stock up fellas[close]
at my local the prices of the new arrived ones are are sometimes even 75euro. thats just fucked up.
i should be getting some new wheels soon. thinking of trying some classics since all i skate are curbs these days and i only got the most square wheels they offer right now. Tablets and OG classics.[close]
Re OG Classics, especially the 58 and 60mm sizes - I didn't see replies earlier but somewhere back in this thread (or another one) people had asked DLX and the response was they will make more in the first quarter of 2023, so should be available again just before mid year.
I would rather quote the person, so if anyone finds it, or was that person, please repost the answer again.
Thanks.
What is like the smallest wheel with the widest riding surface? Something like a Radial in 50mm would be hella cool I think.OG Classics
What is like the smallest wheel with the widest riding surface? Something like a Radial in 50mm would be hella cool I think.Lil Smokies are available in Concial Full 50mm
Lil Smokies are available in Concial Full 50mmExpand QuoteWhat is like the smallest wheel with the widest riding surface? Something like a Radial in 50mm would be hella cool I think.[close]
https://www.studioskatesupply.com/f4-99-lil-smokies-conical-full-50mm-wheels.html
(https://cdn.shoplightspeed.com/shops/603339/files/51701284/spitfire-f4-99-lil-smokies-conical-full-50mm-wheel.jpg)
OG ClassicsExpand QuoteWhat is like the smallest wheel with the widest riding surface? Something like a Radial in 50mm would be hella cool I think.[close]
This cracked a big laugh in here.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteLove my GT OG classics 53mm, my local here in CZ still have them on sale[close]
53mm at your grown age *giggles*[close]
What's the age limit on what size wheels? Please respond very quickly as I have some 50mm and 60mms set up right now and I am deep into middle age with very little time to spare.
@Mbrimson88 I been skating 55 classics and they are maybe 54-53mm now. Love them. Slipped out of crooks with them and so madness made me put on some regular conicals. My flip tricks seem to have suffered do you think this is cause the classic rounded shape lets me roll and flick easier or is this just in my head? Is this why you prefer worn classics it’s like a rounded wheel with a wide surface ?
Did spitfire stop putting the little sticker with the wheel size on? Homie just got conical full 54mm and all they have is a little sticker on the back with the barcode, wheel info, made in mexico...Those stickers easily fall off. If you check the dlx sku/barcode it should have the size at the end of the name/description, or printed on the actual wheel.
Packaging and wheels look perfect otherwise
Expand Quote@Mbrimson88 I been skating 55 classics and they are maybe 54-53mm now. Love them. Slipped out of crooks with them and so madness made me put on some regular conicals. My flip tricks seem to have suffered do you think this is cause the classic rounded shape lets me roll and flick easier or is this just in my head? Is this why you prefer worn classics it’s like a rounded wheel with a wide surface ?[close]
Worn-down Classics = radials. As to crooks, I find the curved edge of classics to be better for locking into crooks than a pointy edge like Conicals. And yes, rounded edge allows board to destabilize (e.g. flip) sooner than more squared-off wheels. This does a good job of explaining it: https://youtu.be/sbgGwTQHBtY
Expand QuoteExpand Quote@Mbrimson88 I been skating 55 classics and they are maybe 54-53mm now. Love them. Slipped out of crooks with them and so madness made me put on some regular conicals. My flip tricks seem to have suffered do you think this is cause the classic rounded shape lets me roll and flick easier or is this just in my head? Is this why you prefer worn classics it’s like a rounded wheel with a wide surface ?[close]
Worn-down Classics = radials. As to crooks, I find the curved edge of classics to be better for locking into crooks than a pointy edge like Conicals. And yes, rounded edge allows board to destabilize (e.g. flip) sooner than more squared-off wheels. This does a good job of explaining it: https://youtu.be/sbgGwTQHBtY[close]
Thank you for the helpful response. That all makes a lot of sense. I’m gonna throw my classics back on. Gnarred.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quote@Mbrimson88 I been skating 55 classics and they are maybe 54-53mm now. Love them. Slipped out of crooks with them and so madness made me put on some regular conicals. My flip tricks seem to have suffered do you think this is cause the classic rounded shape lets me roll and flick easier or is this just in my head? Is this why you prefer worn classics it’s like a rounded wheel with a wide surface ?[close]
Worn-down Classics = radials. As to crooks, I find the curved edge of classics to be better for locking into crooks than a pointy edge like Conicals. And yes, rounded edge allows board to destabilize (e.g. flip) sooner than more squared-off wheels. This does a good job of explaining it:[close]
Thank you for the helpful response. That all makes a lot of sense. I’m gonna throw my classics back on. Gnarred.[close]
Glad to be of help!
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quote@Mbrimson88 I been skating 55 classics and they are maybe 54-53mm now. Love them. Slipped out of crooks with them and so madness made me put on some regular conicals. My flip tricks seem to have suffered do you think this is cause the classic rounded shape lets me roll and flick easier or is this just in my head? Is this why you prefer worn classics it’s like a rounded wheel with a wide surface ?[close]
Worn-down Classics = radials. As to crooks, I find the curved edge of classics to be better for locking into crooks than a pointy edge like Conicals. And yes, rounded edge allows board to destabilize (e.g. flip) sooner than more squared-off wheels. This does a good job of explaining it:[close]
Thank you for the helpful response. That all makes a lot of sense. I’m gonna throw my classics back on. Gnarred.[close]
Glad to be of help![close]
Ha yeah, better than anything I could give you.
But for real, Classics once worn down a couple of mm just feel so much better, wider contact area and still more rounded sidewall feel like the best of both worlds to me.
Others say Classics slip out to easily or they can never lock into anything, so they ride Conical Full wheels, so I guess more than anything it is just down to what you are used to and how much you push into things / rely on that wheel edge to stop or keep going, etc.
Compared to any other wheel shape, Classics are still the easiest to get too, which make my choice not so hard, but I have Radials in 53 and 54 from new, as well as a lot of used Conical Full wheels from swaps that I round off the edges a bit and they are nice to ride too, mainly 54mm Conical Fulls now around 50-52mm but I still love the feeling of new 56 Classic or Classic Full wheels on park and transition more than anything - just set up some more recently and although they feel too big for smaller tech stuff, they just work for everything else.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quote@Mbrimson88 I been skating 55 classics and they are maybe 54-53mm now. Love them. Slipped out of crooks with them and so madness made me put on some regular conicals. My flip tricks seem to have suffered do you think this is cause the classic rounded shape lets me roll and flick easier or is this just in my head? Is this why you prefer worn classics it’s like a rounded wheel with a wide surface ?[close]
Worn-down Classics = radials. As to crooks, I find the curved edge of classics to be better for locking into crooks than a pointy edge like Conicals. And yes, rounded edge allows board to destabilize (e.g. flip) sooner than more squared-off wheels. This does a good job of explaining it:[close]
Thank you for the helpful response. That all makes a lot of sense. I’m gonna throw my classics back on. Gnarred.[close]
Glad to be of help![close]
Ha yeah, better than anything I could give you.
But for real, Classics once worn down a couple of mm just feel so much better, wider contact area and still more rounded sidewall feel like the best of both worlds to me.
Others say Classics slip out to easily or they can never lock into anything, so they ride Conical Full wheels, so I guess more than anything it is just down to what you are used to and how much you push into things / rely on that wheel edge to stop or keep going, etc.
Compared to any other wheel shape, Classics are still the easiest to get too, which make my choice not so hard, but I have Radials in 53 and 54 from new, as well as a lot of used Conical Full wheels from swaps that I round off the edges a bit and they are nice to ride too, mainly 54mm Conical Fulls now around 50-52mm but I still love the feeling of new 56 Classic or Classic Full wheels on park and transition more than anything - just set up some more recently and although they feel too big for smaller tech stuff, they just work for everything else.[close]
at that point just get the radial slims
they're slim like the classics, but out the box have a wider contact patch
at that point just get the radial slims
they're slim like the classics, but out the box have a wider contact patch
is there a huge difference in the feel of a f4 101 wheel vs a f4 99 wheel? i don't know when i'll be able to get 99s but we have some 101s in the shop and i've never had those. do they feel much worse on rough ground? the difference between the 97s and 99s was noticeable, are the 101s that much harder? and how's the slide?
this has probably been answered multiple times but tbf i don't wanna scroll through 150+ pages so maybe someone here would be able to sum it up for me. thanks :*
What is the real difference between standard and formula four ?
standards are super white, have the tread when new, slower, don't slide as good. your classic skateboard wheel you probably remember as a kid
f4s are egg white to potato colored, no tread, I think they're faster and smoother in 99 on the same ground, slide great, amazing wheels.
also standards imo it's hard to get the bearings in and out. f4s I never had that problem.
so then worn down conical full = tablets ?
is there a huge difference in the feel of a f4 101 wheel vs a f4 99 wheel? i don't know when i'll be able to get 99s but we have some 101s in the shop and i've never had those. do they feel much worse on rough ground? the difference between the 97s and 99s was noticeable, are the 101s that much harder? and how's the slide?
this has probably been answered multiple times but tbf i don't wanna scroll through 150+ pages so maybe someone here would be able to sum it up for me. thanks :*
IMHO, yes. 101, noticeably faster on park/perfect type terrain, yet very chattery on rougher stuff. 99, good all purpose. Slower on smooth stuff. 97, good for crust. Slow and sticky elsewhere. There is no wheel perfect for all terrain.
That's why I have multiple setups all pretty much the same with different wheel duros, but sometimes it can be a bit more funny more than functional.
I’d say it’s worthwhile to try the standard formula if you’re curious, just know what you’re getting into. I’ve been skating 57mm bigheads for a while and I love them. They’ve worn down beautifully, big fan of the shape. Yes they flatspot, but I like the feedback you get when you’ve gotta ride out a little flatspot. There’s definitely some nostalgia involved, thats a feeling I hadn’t experienced in so long and it kinda makes me happy.
Expand QuoteI’d say it’s worthwhile to try the standard formula if you’re curious, just know what you’re getting into. I’ve been skating 57mm bigheads for a while and I love them. They’ve worn down beautifully, big fan of the shape. Yes they flatspot, but I like the feedback you get when you’ve gotta ride out a little flatspot. There’s definitely some nostalgia involved, thats a feeling I hadn’t experienced in so long and it kinda makes me happy.[close]
They aren't terrible but don't handle crust as well as the F4 99a. I'm riding SML's AG formula which is supposed to be similar to the Classic formula, very decent wheels I could ride till they got too small (50mm).
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI’d say it’s worthwhile to try the standard formula if you’re curious, just know what you’re getting into. I’ve been skating 57mm bigheads for a while and I love them. They’ve worn down beautifully, big fan of the shape. Yes they flatspot, but I like the feedback you get when you’ve gotta ride out a little flatspot. There’s definitely some nostalgia involved, thats a feeling I hadn’t experienced in so long and it kinda makes me happy.[close]
They aren't terrible but don't handle crust as well as the F4 99a. I'm riding SML's AG formula which is supposed to be similar to the Classic formula, very decent wheels I could ride till they got too small (50mm).[close]
Maybe it’s the bigger size, but I’m happy with how mine handle crust. I’m really long forward to trying some AG formula soon. There’s some Mike Arnold swirl wheels I’ve been eying.
does the og spitfire formula hold a candle to F4s or newer bones wheels at all? it's been like 15 years since i've ridden them.
Spitfire website is showing wheel sizes that aren't available this season.
https://www.spitfirewheels.com/
(https://www.spitfirewheels.com/spring23/07-sf-sp23-d1-staples-lock-ins.jpg)
(https://www.spitfirewheels.com/spring23/08-sf-sp23-d1-staples-radials.jpg)
(https://www.spitfirewheels.com/spring23/09-sf-sp23-d1-staples-conical.jpg)
(https://www.spitfirewheels.com/spring23/10-sf-sp23-d1-staples-conical-fulls.jpg)
(https://www.spitfirewheels.com/spring23/11-sf-sp23-d1-staples-f4-99.jpg)
(https://www.spitfirewheels.com/spring23/12-sf-sp23-d1-staples-f4-101.jpg)
Hoping this availability isn't permanent.
Most of the wheels have a 58, other than the Lock-Ins with 57 being the maximum while Classics go up to 60. The font for 58 is nearly the same color as the background.Expand QuoteSpitfire website is showing wheel sizes that aren't available this season.
https://www.spitfirewheels.com/
(https://www.spitfirewheels.com/spring23/07-sf-sp23-d1-staples-lock-ins.jpg)
(https://www.spitfirewheels.com/spring23/08-sf-sp23-d1-staples-radials.jpg)
(https://www.spitfirewheels.com/spring23/09-sf-sp23-d1-staples-conical.jpg)
(https://www.spitfirewheels.com/spring23/10-sf-sp23-d1-staples-conical-fulls.jpg)
(https://www.spitfirewheels.com/spring23/11-sf-sp23-d1-staples-f4-99.jpg)
(https://www.spitfirewheels.com/spring23/12-sf-sp23-d1-staples-f4-101.jpg)
Hoping this availability isn't permanent.[close]
this drop sucks for folks who skate anything above 56mm
Spitfire website is showing wheel sizes that aren't available this season.
https://www.spitfirewheels.com/
(https://www.spitfirewheels.com/spring23/07-sf-sp23-d1-staples-lock-ins.jpg)
(https://www.spitfirewheels.com/spring23/08-sf-sp23-d1-staples-radials.jpg)
(https://www.spitfirewheels.com/spring23/09-sf-sp23-d1-staples-conical.jpg)
(https://www.spitfirewheels.com/spring23/10-sf-sp23-d1-staples-conical-fulls.jpg)
(https://www.spitfirewheels.com/spring23/11-sf-sp23-d1-staples-f4-99.jpg)
(https://www.spitfirewheels.com/spring23/12-sf-sp23-d1-staples-f4-101.jpg)
Hoping this availability isn't permanent.
I wonder if spitfire riders just aren't going above 56 very often and it's not worth it to produce them
Most of the wheels have a 58, other than the Lock-Ins with 57 being the maximum while Classics go up to 60. The font for 58 is nearly the same color as the background.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteSpitfire website is showing wheel sizes that aren't available this season.
https://www.spitfirewheels.com/
(https://www.spitfirewheels.com/spring23/07-sf-sp23-d1-staples-lock-ins.jpg)
(https://www.spitfirewheels.com/spring23/08-sf-sp23-d1-staples-radials.jpg)
(https://www.spitfirewheels.com/spring23/09-sf-sp23-d1-staples-conical.jpg)
(https://www.spitfirewheels.com/spring23/10-sf-sp23-d1-staples-conical-fulls.jpg)
(https://www.spitfirewheels.com/spring23/11-sf-sp23-d1-staples-f4-99.jpg)
(https://www.spitfirewheels.com/spring23/12-sf-sp23-d1-staples-f4-101.jpg)
Hoping this availability isn't permanent.[close]
this drop sucks for folks who skate anything above 56mm[close]
Edit:
(https://www.spitfirewheels.com/spring23/06-sf-sp23-d1-staples-97s.jpg)
I’m down to try the Radial Full shape.
Does no one skate 50 or 51 mm anymore??!!!!50 gang here! They've been producing 50mm wheels as part of the lil smokies line (which are blemish re-grinds/pricepoints) but for some reason they don't include them in the catalog (presumably because the supply chain is unpredictable)
if i had excess cash to blow, i'd only skate 51mm tbh. for longevity purposes, it just makes more sense to ride 52-5350 gang here! They've been producing 50mm wheels as part of the lil smokies line (which are blemish re-grinds/pricepoints) but for some reason they don't include them in the catalog (presumably because the supply chain is unpredictable)Expand QuoteDoes no one skate 50 or 51 mm anymore??!!!![close]
if i had excess cash to blow, i'd only skate 51mm tbh. for longevity purposes, it just makes more sense to ride 52-53Expand Quote50 gang here! They've been producing 50mm wheels as part of the lil smokies line (which are blemish re-grinds/pricepoints) but for some reason they don't include them in the catalog (presumably because the supply chain is unpredictable)Expand QuoteDoes no one skate 50 or 51 mm anymore??!!!![close][close]
Ah, good to know. I’m glad I stocked up around NYE, but may try to scoop up some of the bigger sizes for summertime, while they’re still in shops.Expand QuoteMost of the wheels have a 58, other than the Lock-Ins with 57 being the maximum while Classics go up to 60. The font for 58 is nearly the same color as the background.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteSpitfire website is showing wheel sizes that aren't available this season.
https://www.spitfirewheels.com/
(https://www.spitfirewheels.com/spring23/07-sf-sp23-d1-staples-lock-ins.jpg)
(https://www.spitfirewheels.com/spring23/08-sf-sp23-d1-staples-radials.jpg)
(https://www.spitfirewheels.com/spring23/09-sf-sp23-d1-staples-conical.jpg)
(https://www.spitfirewheels.com/spring23/10-sf-sp23-d1-staples-conical-fulls.jpg)
(https://www.spitfirewheels.com/spring23/11-sf-sp23-d1-staples-f4-99.jpg)
(https://www.spitfirewheels.com/spring23/12-sf-sp23-d1-staples-f4-101.jpg)
Hoping this availability isn't permanent.[close]
this drop sucks for folks who skate anything above 56mm[close]
Edit:
(https://www.spitfirewheels.com/spring23/06-sf-sp23-d1-staples-97s.jpg)
I’m down to try the Radial Full shape.[close]
58mm classics weren't included in preorder forms, the blacked out numbers mean that they're not in this drop for some reason.
Expand QuoteI wonder if spitfire riders just aren't going above 56 very often and it's not worth it to produce them[close]
it's not about riders. It's about customers
I went out after work to buy a set of 54mm 97 CFs (which I got) and impulse bought a set of 56mm 80HD CFs. I’ve never actually seen a set in person and they looked awesome. I’m a sucker I know.
Maaaaaan need the f4 og classics to come back i dont like the normal classic shape as much
Expand QuoteMaaaaaan need the f4 og classics to come back i dont like the normal classic shape as much[close]
What size do you like?
Not sure if anyone pointed this out yet, but when the spring drop came out, numerous sizes were blacked-out. Most of us assumed that meant those sizes were NOT available. Now, however, there are no blacked-out sizes on their web page--they are all white.
Expand QuoteNot sure if anyone pointed this out yet, but when the spring drop came out, numerous sizes were blacked-out. Most of us assumed that meant those sizes were NOT available. Now, however, there are no blacked-out sizes on their web page--they are all white.[close]
Strange, I guess there was some miscommunication behind the scenes. >56mm users rejoice!
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteMaaaaaan need the f4 og classics to come back i dont like the normal classic shape as much[close]
What size do you like?[close]
Im looking for 58 ideally
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteNot sure if anyone pointed this out yet, but when the spring drop came out, numerous sizes were blacked-out. Most of us assumed that meant those sizes were NOT available. Now, however, there are no blacked-out sizes on their web page--they are all white.[close]
Strange, I guess there was some miscommunication behind the scenes. >56mm users rejoice![close]
i work at a shop and like i said they didn’t include the blacked out sizes in the pre-order form. i really hope that they will be available because 58mm classics are my favorite wheels but we weren’t able to order those.
still most of you guys live in the states so there’s a ton of online shops that you could check out but in poland it’s been hard to find f4s over 54mm anywhere since november, and i really took my time to look for them. i had to skate pig wheels ffs. they weren’t that bad but they were no f4s.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteMaaaaaan need the f4 og classics to come back i dont like the normal classic shape as much[close]
What size do you like?[close]
Im looking for 58 ideally
wait wtf it also says 57mm and 59mm under the f4 classics. what colours would those be ?
So is pretty much the only difference between radials and conicals the cut on the inside? Mostly just weight reduction then? If so what is the appeal of radials?
Expand QuoteSo is pretty much the only difference between radials and conicals the cut on the inside? Mostly just weight reduction then? If so what is the appeal of radials?[close]
More like what's the appeal of conicals? Radials are "half-way" between Classics and Radials. The curve cut allows the board to flip faster (thab conicals), and lock-in to some type of grinds better (smith/feeble, etc.) because you don't have a sharp edge to contend with. Moreover, the straighter part of the Radial cut allows you to lock-in to things like 50-50s better than classics (and more like a conical). Watch that Ben De Gros link post a bit back in this thread on the differences between straight cut (conicals) and rounded (classics) wheels. A radial is right in the middle.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteSo is pretty much the only difference between radials and conicals the cut on the inside? Mostly just weight reduction then? If so what is the appeal of radials?[close]
More like what's the appeal of conicals? Radials are "half-way" between Classics and Radials. The curve cut allows the board to flip faster (thab conicals), and lock-in to some type of grinds better (smith/feeble, etc.) because you don't have a sharp edge to contend with. Moreover, the straighter part of the Radial cut allows you to lock-in to things like 50-50s better than classics (and more like a conical). Watch that Ben De Gros link post a bit back in this thread on the differences between straight cut (conicals) and rounded (classics) wheels. A radial is right in the middle.[close]
Oh huh, okay thanks, guess I was just thinking less weight = good lmao
Radials are "half-way" between Classics and Radials.
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Radials are "half-way" between Classics and Radials.[close]
Wut?
How are the 97's on smooth concrete/parks?
This might seem like an obvious question, but would you any of say that 101a's slide better than 99a's in the street? What are your experiences?
I probably just have a technique problem, but I could never really hold a power slide well with my f4 99a's, so I'm wondering if I just need a harder wheel.
Expand QuoteThis might seem like an obvious question, but would you any of say that 101a's slide better than 99a's in the street? What are your experiences?
I probably just have a technique problem, but I could never really hold a power slide well with my f4 99a's, so I'm wondering if I just need a harder wheel.[close]
If you can’t power slide on F4 99a, it’s technique. Find some wet pavement, and practice there. Note, small contact patch (classics) will absolutely slide easier than bigger contact patch (conical fulls).
This might seem like an obvious question, but would any of you say that 101a's slide better than 99a's in the street? What are your experiences?
I probably just have a technique problem, but I could never really hold a power slide well with my f4 99a's, so I'm wondering if I just need a harder wheel.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteThis might seem like an obvious question, but would you any of say that 101a's slide better than 99a's in the street? What are your experiences?
I probably just have a technique problem, but I could never really hold a power slide well with my f4 99a's, so I'm wondering if I just need a harder wheel.[close]
If you can’t power slide on F4 99a, it’s technique. Find some wet pavement, and practice there. Note, small contact patch (classics) will absolutely slide easier than bigger contact patch (conical fulls).[close]
true dat, ty. yeah I just probably need to bend my knees more and lean back, it's just when ever I've tried I almost slip out, so I probably need to find a sweet spot.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteThis might seem like an obvious question, but would you any of say that 101a's slide better than 99a's in the street? What are your experiences?
I probably just have a technique problem, but I could never really hold a power slide well with my f4 99a's, so I'm wondering if I just need a harder wheel.[close]
If you can’t power slide on F4 99a, it’s technique. Find some wet pavement, and practice there. Note, small contact patch (classics) will absolutely slide easier than bigger contact patch (conical fulls).[close]
true dat, ty. yeah I just probably need to bend my knees more and lean back, it's just when ever I've tried I almost slip out, so I probably need to find a sweet spot.[close]
what’s ur foot placement looking like?
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteThis might seem like an obvious question, but would you any of say that 101a's slide better than 99a's in the street? What are your experiences?
I probably just have a technique problem, but I could never really hold a power slide well with my f4 99a's, so I'm wondering if I just need a harder wheel.[close]
If you can’t power slide on F4 99a, it’s technique. Find some wet pavement, and practice there. Note, small contact patch (classics) will absolutely slide easier than bigger contact patch (conical fulls).[close]
true dat, ty. yeah I just probably need to bend my knees more and lean back, it's just when ever I've tried I almost slip out, so I probably need to find a sweet spot.[close]
what’s ur foot placement looking like?
Expand QuoteThis might seem like an obvious question, but would any of you say that 101a's slide better than 99a's in the street? What are your experiences?
I probably just have a technique problem, but I could never really hold a power slide well with my f4 99a's, so I'm wondering if I just need a harder wheel.[close]
Absolutely. I unlocked backside power slides on 101 radial slims (I can FS power sliding duro wheel). But after I had them dialed, it wasn't too hard to take them to 99s. Hills are the best place to learn them.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteThis might seem like an obvious question, but would any of you say that 101a's slide better than 99a's in the street? What are your experiences?
I probably just have a technique problem, but I could never really hold a power slide well with my f4 99a's, so I'm wondering if I just need a harder wheel.[close]
Absolutely. I unlocked backside power slides on 101 radial slims (I can FS power sliding duro wheel). But after I had them dialed, it wasn't too hard to take them to 99s. Hills are the best place to learn them.[close]
Freak yeah, ty. I've never cared for power slides much, but now I want em. gotta have em.
Hey guys,
Want to switch from 99a to 101a but a lot of my spots have bad cracks in the roll-up, large enough that getting pitched is a concern. Will the small loss of rebound significantly affect my ability to ride them out with good weight distribution? Obviously it will be more jarring but will I actually get stuck on things my 99as can handle?
Expand QuoteHey guys,
Want to switch from 99a to 101a but a lot of my spots have bad cracks in the roll-up, large enough that getting pitched is a concern. Will the small loss of rebound significantly affect my ability to ride them out with good weight distribution? Obviously it will be more jarring but will I actually get stuck on things my 99as can handle?[close]
Imho, 101a is only good at smooth, park type settings. They shake your fillings out at the slightest sign of crust. Stick to 99.
I’ll offer a very slight counter/addendum: 101s initially seem unrideable on anything other than perfect concrete, but in my experience they break in really nicely. The shape of the wheel seems to matter more with the 101s, for me: my 52 conical fulls are great wherever, my 51 classics are much slower on choppy ground.
I currently prefer 101s, but I skate small wheels, and seek out smooth (ish, northwest outdoor non skate specific) parking lots for flatground. So big grain of salt so to speak
...The shape of the wheel seems to matter more with the 101s, for me: my 52 conical fulls are great wherever, my 51 classics are much slower on choppy ground.
I currently prefer 101s, but I skate small wheels, and seek out smooth (ish, northwest outdoor non skate specific) parking lots for flatground. So big grain of salt so to speak
Has anybody else has an increased issue with f4s chunking out quick? I have a set I just put on last week chunk out on the riding surface. The last set I had for 9 months never even lost a chunk that big the whole time having them. I just skating where I usually skate so it's not like I went to a new rough spot or anythingare they colored?
WHAT the HELL is this?
(https://i.ibb.co/xMLWg44/68-A234-A8-B97-F-4-BF8-8758-C4-B95-C6-A9809.png) (https://ibb.co/xMLWg44)
Listed as radial, but obvs. classic… but the colorway/graphic is conical.
Which drop is this from?
Expand QuoteWHAT the HELL is this?
(https://i.ibb.co/xMLWg44/68-A234-A8-B97-F-4-BF8-8758-C4-B95-C6-A9809.png) (https://ibb.co/xMLWg44)
Listed as radial, but obvs. classic… but the colorway/graphic is conical.
Which drop is this from?[close]
Counterfeits?
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteWHAT the HELL is this?
(https://i.ibb.co/xMLWg44/68-A234-A8-B97-F-4-BF8-8758-C4-B95-C6-A9809.png) (https://ibb.co/xMLWg44)
Listed as radial, but obvs. classic… but the colorway/graphic is conical.
Which drop is this from?[close]
Counterfeits?[close]
Someone please correct me if im wrong, but didn't they used to run this graphic on ALL f4's at first? blue for 99 red for 101? I thought they didnt start doing the swirl graphic on f4 classics for a little while after selling f4s?
are they colored?Expand QuoteHas anybody else has an increased issue with f4s chunking out quick? I have a set I just put on last week chunk out on the riding surface. The last set I had for 9 months never even lost a chunk that big the whole time having them. I just skating where I usually skate so it's not like I went to a new rough spot or anything[close]
Over 5 years ago, I had a set of 60mm F4 Classics that had this graphic on them. Dunno if it was specific to the bigger wheels but I when I ordered I expected them to be OG Classic shape as that was the way it was in the Classics lineup. We all hopefully speak Spitfire here but, for the record, I was talking about three different wheels lines just now. Shit does get confusing.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteWHAT the HELL is this?
(https://i.ibb.co/xMLWg44/68-A234-A8-B97-F-4-BF8-8758-C4-B95-C6-A9809.png) (https://ibb.co/xMLWg44)
Listed as radial, but obvs. classic… but the colorway/graphic is conical.
Which drop is this from?[close]
Counterfeits?[close]
Someone please correct me if im wrong, but didn't they used to run this graphic on ALL f4's at first? blue for 99 red for 101? I thought they didnt start doing the swirl graphic on f4 classics for a little while after selling f4s?
Over 5 years ago, I had a set of 60mm F4 Classics that had this graphic on them. Dunno if it was specific to the bigger wheels but I when I ordered I expected them to be OG Classic shape as that was the way it was in the Classics lineup. We all hopefully speak Spitfire here but, for the record, I was talking about three different wheels lines just now. Shit does get confusing.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteWHAT the HELL is this?
(https://i.ibb.co/xMLWg44/68-A234-A8-B97-F-4-BF8-8758-C4-B95-C6-A9809.png) (https://ibb.co/xMLWg44)
Listed as radial, but obvs. classic… but the colorway/graphic is conical.
Which drop is this from?[close]
Counterfeits?[close]
Someone please correct me if im wrong, but didn't they used to run this graphic on ALL f4's at first? blue for 99 red for 101? I thought they didnt start doing the swirl graphic on f4 classics for a little while after selling f4s?[close]
The wheels that CreachTeach posted are almost certainly counterfeit. Number one wheel in skateboarding, number one most counterfeited wheel too.
Yeah fair enough Titus is pretty well known. Perhaps they just have the wrong product shot up on that listing?Expand QuoteOver 5 years ago, I had a set of 60mm F4 Classics that had this graphic on them. Dunno if it was specific to the bigger wheels but I when I ordered I expected them to be OG Classic shape as that was the way it was in the Classics lineup. We all hopefully speak Spitfire here but, for the record, I was talking about three different wheels lines just now. Shit does get confusing.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteWHAT the HELL is this?
(https://i.ibb.co/xMLWg44/68-A234-A8-B97-F-4-BF8-8758-C4-B95-C6-A9809.png) (https://ibb.co/xMLWg44)
Listed as radial, but obvs. classic… but the colorway/graphic is conical.
Which drop is this from?[close]
Counterfeits?[close]
Someone please correct me if im wrong, but didn't they used to run this graphic on ALL f4's at first? blue for 99 red for 101? I thought they didnt start doing the swirl graphic on f4 classics for a little while after selling f4s?[close]
The wheels that CreachTeach posted are almost certainly counterfeit. Number one wheel in skateboarding, number one most counterfeited wheel too.[close]
They ought to be legit at that price. If you click the picture, you can see that it’s a screenshot from large European skate shop. I would imagine that they’d only deal directly with DLX.
If I had a skateshop, I’d be very suspicious of anyone else selling me Spitfires.
Yeah, you see it too. It boggles my tiny brain. Either they bought aliexpress wheels, or they’re new old stock. (NOS is very big in guitar and electronics) Or they’re simply a custom order colorway.Yeah fair enough Titus is pretty well known. Perhaps they just have the wrong product shot up on that listing?Expand QuoteExpand QuoteOver 5 years ago, I had a set of 60mm F4 Classics that had this graphic on them. Dunno if it was specific to the bigger wheels but I when I ordered I expected them to be OG Classic shape as that was the way it was in the Classics lineup. We all hopefully speak Spitfire here but, for the record, I was talking about three different wheels lines just now. Shit does get confusing.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteWHAT the HELL is this?
(https://i.ibb.co/xMLWg44/68-A234-A8-B97-F-4-BF8-8758-C4-B95-C6-A9809.png) (https://ibb.co/xMLWg44)
Listed as radial, but obvs. classic… but the colorway/graphic is conical.
Which drop is this from?[close]
Counterfeits?[close]
Someone please correct me if im wrong, but didn't they used to run this graphic on ALL f4's at first? blue for 99 red for 101? I thought they didnt start doing the swirl graphic on f4 classics for a little while after selling f4s?[close]
The wheels that CreachTeach posted are almost certainly counterfeit. Number one wheel in skateboarding, number one most counterfeited wheel too.[close]
They ought to be legit at that price. If you click the picture, you can see that it’s a screenshot from large European skate shop. I would imagine that they’d only deal directly with DLX.
If I had a skateshop, I’d be very suspicious of anyone else selling me Spitfires.[close]
Expand QuoteOver 5 years ago, I had a set of 60mm F4 Classics that had this graphic on them. Dunno if it was specific to the bigger wheels but I when I ordered I expected them to be OG Classic shape as that was the way it was in the Classics lineup. We all hopefully speak Spitfire here but, for the record, I was talking about three different wheels lines just now. Shit does get confusing.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteWHAT the HELL is this?
(https://i.ibb.co/xMLWg44/68-A234-A8-B97-F-4-BF8-8758-C4-B95-C6-A9809.png) (https://ibb.co/xMLWg44)
Listed as radial, but obvs. classic… but the colorway/graphic is conical.
Which drop is this from?[close]
Counterfeits?[close]
Someone please correct me if im wrong, but didn't they used to run this graphic on ALL f4's at first? blue for 99 red for 101? I thought they didnt start doing the swirl graphic on f4 classics for a little while after selling f4s?[close]
The wheels that CreachTeach posted are almost certainly counterfeit. Number one wheel in skateboarding, number one most counterfeited wheel too.[close]
They ought to be legit at that price. If you click the picture, you can see that it’s a screenshot from large European skate shop. I would imagine that they’d only deal directly with DLX.
If I had a skateshop, I’d be very suspicious of anyone else selling me Spitfires.
Yeah, you see it too. It boggles my tiny brain. Either they bought aliexpress wheels, or they’re new old stock. (NOS is very big in guitar and electronics) Or they’re simply a custom order colorway.Expand QuoteYeah fair enough Titus is pretty well known. Perhaps they just have the wrong product shot up on that listing?Expand QuoteExpand QuoteOver 5 years ago, I had a set of 60mm F4 Classics that had this graphic on them. Dunno if it was specific to the bigger wheels but I when I ordered I expected them to be OG Classic shape as that was the way it was in the Classics lineup. We all hopefully speak Spitfire here but, for the record, I was talking about three different wheels lines just now. Shit does get confusing.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteWHAT the HELL is this?
(https://i.ibb.co/xMLWg44/68-A234-A8-B97-F-4-BF8-8758-C4-B95-C6-A9809.png) (https://ibb.co/xMLWg44)
Listed as radial, but obvs. classic… but the colorway/graphic is conical.
Which drop is this from?[close]
Counterfeits?[close]
Someone please correct me if im wrong, but didn't they used to run this graphic on ALL f4's at first? blue for 99 red for 101? I thought they didnt start doing the swirl graphic on f4 classics for a little while after selling f4s?[close]
The wheels that CreachTeach posted are almost certainly counterfeit. Number one wheel in skateboarding, number one most counterfeited wheel too.[close]
They ought to be legit at that price. If you click the picture, you can see that it’s a screenshot from large European skate shop. I would imagine that they’d only deal directly with DLX.
If I had a skateshop, I’d be very suspicious of anyone else selling me Spitfires.[close][close]
A Danish skateshop still has Green/black swirled F4s, and CPH open ltd edition wheels. I know the Green/black is several years old. What’s the shelf life of these things?
what benefit do the conicals have versus classics for those who've ridden both?
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteWHAT the HELL is this?
(https://i.ibb.co/xMLWg44/68-A234-A8-B97-F-4-BF8-8758-C4-B95-C6-A9809.png) (https://ibb.co/xMLWg44)
Listed as radial, but obvs. classic… but the colorway/graphic is conical.
Which drop is this from?[close]
Counterfeits?[close]
Someone please correct me if im wrong, but didn't they used to run this graphic on ALL f4's at first? blue for 99 red for 101? I thought they didnt start doing the swirl graphic on f4 classics for a little while after selling f4s?
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteWHAT the HELL is this?
(https://i.ibb.co/xMLWg44/68-A234-A8-B97-F-4-BF8-8758-C4-B95-C6-A9809.png) (https://ibb.co/xMLWg44)
Listed as radial, but obvs. classic… but the colorway/graphic is conical.
Which drop is this from?[close]
Counterfeits?[close]
Someone please correct me if im wrong, but didn't they used to run this graphic on ALL f4's at first? blue for 99 red for 101? I thought they didnt start doing the swirl graphic on f4 classics for a little while after selling f4s?[close]
Yep. I only have two sets of the classic '99s. Both from the first year of F4s, and both with that graphic. An both just sitting in my box of unused parts.
Expand Quotewhat benefit do the conicals have versus classics for those who've ridden both?[close]
can get a larger contact patch w/a smaller wheel
@Mbrimson88 knows all about this, can speak to this more
i remember they used that graphic a lot before they made the classic swirl on formula fours. a lot of websites like tactics and skatewarehouse have em for a while.
on another note i got a set of conical f4's - ive moslty ridden classic but tried classic slims, classic wide. connical full. radial and radial full but always reverted back to the classics.
what benefit do the conicals have versus classics for those who've ridden both?
i remember they used that graphic a lot before they made the classic swirl on formula fours. a lot of websites like tactics and skatewarehouse have em for a while.
on another note i got a set of conical f4's - ive moslty ridden classic but tried classic slims, classic wide. connical full. radial and radial full but always reverted back to the classics.
what benefit do the conicals have versus classics for those who've ridden both?
Expand QuoteYeah, you see it too. It boggles my tiny brain. Either they bought aliexpress wheels, or they’re new old stock. (NOS is very big in guitar and electronics) Or they’re simply a custom order colorway.Expand QuoteYeah fair enough Titus is pretty well known. Perhaps they just have the wrong product shot up on that listing?Expand QuoteExpand QuoteOver 5 years ago, I had a set of 60mm F4 Classics that had this graphic on them. Dunno if it was specific to the bigger wheels but I when I ordered I expected them to be OG Classic shape as that was the way it was in the Classics lineup. We all hopefully speak Spitfire here but, for the record, I was talking about three different wheels lines just now. Shit does get confusing.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteWHAT the HELL is this?
(https://i.ibb.co/xMLWg44/68-A234-A8-B97-F-4-BF8-8758-C4-B95-C6-A9809.png) (https://ibb.co/xMLWg44)
Listed as radial, but obvs. classic… but the colorway/graphic is conical.
Which drop is this from?[close]
Counterfeits?[close]
Someone please correct me if im wrong, but didn't they used to run this graphic on ALL f4's at first? blue for 99 red for 101? I thought they didnt start doing the swirl graphic on f4 classics for a little while after selling f4s?[close]
The wheels that CreachTeach posted are almost certainly counterfeit. Number one wheel in skateboarding, number one most counterfeited wheel too.[close]
They ought to be legit at that price. If you click the picture, you can see that it’s a screenshot from large European skate shop. I would imagine that they’d only deal directly with DLX.
If I had a skateshop, I’d be very suspicious of anyone else selling me Spitfires.[close][close]
A Danish skateshop still has Green/black swirled F4s, and CPH open ltd edition wheels. I know the Green/black is several years old. What’s the shelf life of these things?[close]
I still have a lot of these blue 99 and at least one set of red 101 Classic and Classic Full shape wheels with these graphics as I stocked up when I had the chance, so that pic is of a legit set of wheels, but I would say there would be almost zero sets of those wheels still around in skate shops nowdays.
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0471/9742/1731/products/161219_1.jpg)
Titus is a very well known and respected skate shop so I doubt they would have fake wheels in stock, so I am going with the theory that they found that graphic from their archives or google and put it on the listing by mistake. Other shops have often done the same, not taking pics of their own wheels, but just looking up stock pics and using them, as it was way quicker and easier when they are busy and have to put up lots of product.
Radials in the 52, 53, 54 and 56 mm sizes have really only just come out again not too long ago, so more likely just arrived over there, with a similar graphic, but not the same one. Even I was curious when I saw the new ones with an almost reversed graphic of that old blue one, but I think they have done that as there were a lot of fake wheels out with the old Radial graphic on what looked like more of a Classic shape but still not the same.
Either way, there is still no 100% guarantee that something is not wrong, so as I have done with other shops, sent a message asking about that particular product and if they got the image wrong, etc. It definitely happens.
Skate Deluxe have some newly listed Radial 53mm wheels too, so I would be going with legit wheel, wrong image.
See this one:
https://www.skatedeluxe.com/en/spitfire-formula-four-radial-wheels-natural-blue-53mm-99a-4-pack_p162863
Maybe they just used an old picture.My thinking as well, now that I’ve slept on it.
Expand Quotewhat benefit do the conicals have versus classics for those who've ridden both?[close]
can get a larger contact patch w/a smaller wheel
@Mbrimson88 knows all about this, can speak to this more
thanks for the feedback! gonna try the 54mm conical 99a after work today before seeing my gf for the usual valentines day dinner!
fucking hell – was about to buy new F4s, but they are now 70 Euros in Germany. Guess it's time for a shop for Loopholes or something different. Any recommendations for a wheel feeling close to f4 conical fulls?
fucking hell – was about to buy new F4s, but they are now 70 Euros in Germany. Guess it's time for a shop for Loopholes or something different. Any recommendations for a wheel feeling close to f4 conical fulls?
fucking hell – was about to buy new F4s, but they are now 70 Euros in Germany. Guess it's time for a shop for Loopholes or something different. Any recommendations for a wheel feeling close to f4 conical fulls?
Wait what? NFG or loophole done? Or both?Expand Quotefucking hell – was about to buy new F4s, but they are now 70 Euros in Germany. Guess it's time for a shop for Loopholes or something different. Any recommendations for a wheel feeling close to f4 conical fulls?[close]
I know F4s are pricy and am aware that I am spoiled by living in the USA, but if they went up that substantially here I'd still buy them. They skate better and last longer than anything else, and if I am not on my madness and swapping them out I can run a set for a year.
If you can find some NFG poured Loopholes go for it, but don't get too attached since they're done.
Wait what? NFG or loophole done? Or both?Expand QuoteExpand Quotefucking hell – was about to buy new F4s, but they are now 70 Euros in Germany. Guess it's time for a shop for Loopholes or something different. Any recommendations for a wheel feeling close to f4 conical fulls?[close]
I know F4s are pricy and am aware that I am spoiled by living in the USA, but if they went up that substantially here I'd still buy them. They skate better and last longer than anything else, and if I am not on my madness and swapping them out I can run a set for a year.
If you can find some NFG poured Loopholes go for it, but don't get too attached since they're done.[close]
Ah thats a shame. I had a set of the v cut loopholes. The shape was a bit too aggressively square for me but the urethane felt nice.Expand QuoteWait what? NFG or loophole done? Or both?Expand QuoteExpand Quotefucking hell – was about to buy new F4s, but they are now 70 Euros in Germany. Guess it's time for a shop for Loopholes or something different. Any recommendations for a wheel feeling close to f4 conical fulls?[close]
I know F4s are pricy and am aware that I am spoiled by living in the USA, but if they went up that substantially here I'd still buy them. They skate better and last longer than anything else, and if I am not on my madness and swapping them out I can run a set for a year.
If you can find some NFG poured Loopholes go for it, but don't get too attached since they're done.[close][close]
The prevailing rumor is that NFG is done. Loophole still exists, but wheels being offered in 99a and 101a (rather than 95a and 52d) point to different factory.
I would love to be wrong, though.
Expand Quotefucking hell – was about to buy new F4s, but they are now 70 Euros in Germany. Guess it's time for a shop for Loopholes or something different. Any recommendations for a wheel feeling close to f4 conical fulls?[close]
What size & duro are you looking for? I've been looking around a lot lately, maybe I've seen something you'd like for the old price (~60€).
Expand Quotefucking hell – was about to buy new F4s, but they are now 70 Euros in Germany. Guess it's time for a shop for Loopholes or something different. Any recommendations for a wheel feeling close to f4 conical fulls?[close]
I know F4s are pricy and am aware that I am spoiled by living in the USA, but if they went up that substantially here I'd still buy them. They skate better and last longer than anything else, and if I am not on my madness and swapping them out I can run a set for a year.
Im bummed i didnt buy those all black AVE 56mm conical fulls that came out a bit ago. Ive wanted either black or orange wheels for a while now and thats my go to size and shape and theyre sold out everywhere
Expand QuoteIm bummed i didnt buy those all black AVE 56mm conical fulls that came out a bit ago. Ive wanted either black or orange wheels for a while now and thats my go to size and shape and theyre sold out everywhere[close]
were they the regular conicals? if so they’ve got some in canada idk if you’re down with that tho
I recently bought a set of 53mm 99a radials from my local, then I noticed on the f4 size chart that there was no 53 listed for radials.
Did I just buy fakes?
I personally know the local owner, he wouldn't sell them intentionally. He gets them all from the same distributor, and I've gotten multiple sets of legit ones in the past, so I'm inclined to believe these are real.
But the lack of mention on the size chart has me puzzled.
Expand QuoteI recently bought a set of 53mm 99a radials from my local, then I noticed on the f4 size chart that there was no 53 listed for radials.
Did I just buy fakes?
I personally know the local owner, he wouldn't sell them intentionally. He gets them all from the same distributor, and I've gotten multiple sets of legit ones in the past, so I'm inclined to believe these are real.
But the lack of mention on the size chart has me puzzled.[close]
nah, my favorite are the standard conicals, and they are not listed in 53 on the website but are for sale at legit retailers.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI recently bought a set of 53mm 99a radials from my local, then I noticed on the f4 size chart that there was no 53 listed for radials.
Did I just buy fakes?
I personally know the local owner, he wouldn't sell them intentionally. He gets them all from the same distributor, and I've gotten multiple sets of legit ones in the past, so I'm inclined to believe these are real.
But the lack of mention on the size chart has me puzzled.[close]
nah, my favorite are the standard conicals, and they are not listed in 53 on the website but are for sale at legit retailers.[close]
Sick, thanks.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI recently bought a set of 53mm 99a radials from my local, then I noticed on the f4 size chart that there was no 53 listed for radials.
Did I just buy fakes?
I personally know the local owner, he wouldn't sell them intentionally. He gets them all from the same distributor, and I've gotten multiple sets of legit ones in the past, so I'm inclined to believe these are real.
But the lack of mention on the size chart has me puzzled.[close]
nah, my favorite are the standard conicals, and they are not listed in 53 on the website but are for sale at legit retailers.[close]
Sick, thanks.[close]
Are they the standard graphic or a special graphic?
I know they do special graphics in 53mm Radials a fair bit, eg the orange camo colour set I had and more recently the L Baker pro model, red or blue graphic.
It's funny how many "in between" sizes pop up for special releases, like the Andrew Allen 55mm Conical Full wheels.
People were tripping on those things when they came out - they skate more like the 56 than the 54mm size though, just like the Radials in 53mm feel closer to 54 than 52mm, when people ask about them.
Nice little wheel too.
I love the riding surface and how my flip tricks are on the Classic shape, but like how Conicals are shaped for locking into grinds.
Would anyone else like to see a Conical Slim shape?
Basically, a similar shape to a Bones V5 shape. I’ve skated the V5’s. They’re great. Just not the same performance of a Formula 4.
Are F4 prices trending up everywhere? Seeing more places selling them for $40 to $45 a set?
Permission granted! Decks went up and stayed up. Wheels following suit...trucks and everything else next!
I just wanted colored F4s to mix and match.
I love the riding surface and how my flip tricks are on the Classic shape, but like how Conicals are shaped for locking into grinds.
Would anyone else like to see a Conical Slim shape?
Basically, a similar shape to a Bones V5 shape. I’ve skated the V5’s. They’re great. Just not the same performance of a Formula 4.
Expand QuoteAre F4 prices trending up everywhere? Seeing more places selling them for $40 to $45 a set?[close]
I noticed this as well. Just nabbed two sets of classics (chroma yellow, and glow) at the low low price of $39.99
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI recently bought a set of 53mm 99a radials from my local, then I noticed on the f4 size chart that there was no 53 listed for radials.
Did I just buy fakes?
I personally know the local owner, he wouldn't sell them intentionally. He gets them all from the same distributor, and I've gotten multiple sets of legit ones in the past, so I'm inclined to believe these are real.
But the lack of mention on the size chart has me puzzled.[close]
nah, my favorite are the standard conicals, and they are not listed in 53 on the website but are for sale at legit retailers.[close]
Sick, thanks.[close]
Are they the standard graphic or a special graphic?
I know they do special graphics in 53mm Radials a fair bit, eg the orange camo colour set I had and more recently the L Baker pro model, red or blue graphic.
It's funny how many "in between" sizes pop up for special releases, like the Andrew Allen 55mm Conical Full wheels.
People were tripping on those things when they came out - they skate more like the 56 than the 54mm size though, just like the Radials in 53mm feel closer to 54 than 52mm, when people ask about them.
Nice little wheel too.[close]
53mm seems to be their least popular size, my guess is they print pro / special release graphics on shapes / graphics they have excess stock of.
For the last couple of years with every new drop I've been hoping that radial slims get a new graphic. Instead fools are making radial fulls instead and I start to worry that the slims might eventually be discontinued...
Anyone know where I might be able to score some Classic Full?
You might see radial slims again someday but the trend is big wide wheels.
The confusion with pricing can be summed up like this, wheel prices did go up, it’s a lot of work(meaning on our site I would have to update every product individually as our site is pretty basic) and frankly kind of dickish to go back to product you got for cheaper and raise the price. F4’s have gone up at wholesale $3-4 a set, I still feel guilty raising prices but I had to.
You might see radial slims again someday but the trend is big wide wheels.
Expand QuoteYou might see radial slims again someday but the trend is big wide wheels.[close]
First, I hate the Full Connie trend. Are people still buying Classics, en mass? It seems Radial Slims would be popular…wider riding surface than classics, with a bit more lock-in, but not such a sharp edge (as tablets, connies, etc.).
Anyone know where I might be able to score some Classic Full?
Expand QuoteAnyone know where I might be able to score some Classic Full?[close]
Titus still has them in 54 and 52
Expand QuoteYou might see radial slims again someday but the trend is big wide wheels.
The confusion with pricing can be summed up like this, wheel prices did go up, it’s a lot of work(meaning on our site I would have to update every product individually as our site is pretty basic) and frankly kind of dickish to go back to product you got for cheaper and raise the price. F4’s have gone up at wholesale $3-4 a set, I still feel guilty raising prices but I had to.[close]
I work, and have worked, in some very different than skateshop industries (restaurants and construction mainly). In both of my main careers, most everyone had the money to sit on the bar stool, or commission the building of a custom home. It was difficult for me to drop some tabs in front of people at the bar, and it’s difficult for my bosses to do invoicing for their clients, particularly as those bosses have aged, gained wealth, and feel like their clients are peers.
Skateshop work would drive me nuts. Many skaters have championed a fairly shitty ethos where they’ll beg poor, and then spend their money in seemingly selfish ways. Trying to juggle that, and apply some type of sliding scale to the ‘homies’ would drive me towards some toxic thought. So as always, salute.
Raise those prices! Don’t feel bad. I’d rather there be a shop I can come to, and bother people, pick decks up and ramble about concave, sniff shoes, whatever my weird ass is up to that day. Please don’t feel bad. Capitalism is shitty
I think a classic full will be coming soon, Lance and Salba haven’t had wheels in a bit and they both ride em.
I think having the word slim in the name is a deterrent to most customers, I see it a lot where certain things are triggers and will just turn people off of a product.
We sell f4 classics decent, I would say the archetype of skater who buys them is late 20s and not really comfortable sizing above an 8 wide board. Conical full, radial full and standard radial dominate our sales, tablets have a little fan base too but it’s pretty niche here.
when you go to the skatepark probably 70% are riding at least 55s. That Evan smith conical full in black sold really well.
And the kids here are pretty broke, living off Depop come ups so a couple bucks is a big deal. I’d rather they be skating and our margins suffering, it makes for a healthy and diverse skate scene and in the long run that means we get to stay in business.
All I gotta do is check out the sale gear topic and see how much most people don’t even consider where they spend their money, as long as they get it for dirt cheap. It’s a tough business and I don’t blame anyone for looking out for themselves. Big ups to the skaters that step back and think about it.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteYou might see radial slims again someday but the trend is big wide wheels.
The confusion with pricing can be summed up like this, wheel prices did go up, it’s a lot of work(meaning on our site I would have to update every product individually as our site is pretty basic) and frankly kind of dickish to go back to product you got for cheaper and raise the price. F4’s have gone up at wholesale $3-4 a set, I still feel guilty raising prices but I had to.[close]
I work, and have worked, in some very different than skateshop industries (restaurants and construction mainly). In both of my main careers, most everyone had the money to sit on the bar stool, or commission the building of a custom home. It was difficult for me to drop some tabs in front of people at the bar, and it’s difficult for my bosses to do invoicing for their clients, particularly as those bosses have aged, gained wealth, and feel like their clients are peers.
Skateshop work would drive me nuts. Many skaters have championed a fairly shitty ethos where they’ll beg poor, and then spend their money in seemingly selfish ways. Trying to juggle that, and apply some type of sliding scale to the ‘homies’ would drive me towards some toxic thought. So as always, salute.
Raise those prices! Don’t feel bad. I’d rather there be a shop I can come to, and bother people, pick decks up and ramble about concave, sniff shoes, whatever my weird ass is up to that day. Please don’t feel bad. Capitalism is shitty[close]
Long story short, these are the people who you can do without, or if they are unreasonable even when explaining some things to them like the last paragraph, I have found it better to say in the nicest possible way "I just can't help you. That's the price, take it or leave it."
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteYou might see radial slims again someday but the trend is big wide wheels.
The confusion with pricing can be summed up like this, wheel prices did go up, it’s a lot of work(meaning on our site I would have to update every product individually as our site is pretty basic) and frankly kind of dickish to go back to product you got for cheaper and raise the price. F4’s have gone up at wholesale $3-4 a set, I still feel guilty raising prices but I had to.[close]
I work, and have worked, in some very different than skateshop industries (restaurants and construction mainly). In both of my main careers, most everyone had the money to sit on the bar stool, or commission the building of a custom home. It was difficult for me to drop some tabs in front of people at the bar, and it’s difficult for my bosses to do invoicing for their clients, particularly as those bosses have aged, gained wealth, and feel like their clients are peers.
Skateshop work would drive me nuts. Many skaters have championed a fairly shitty ethos where they’ll beg poor, and then spend their money in seemingly selfish ways. Trying to juggle that, and apply some type of sliding scale to the ‘homies’ would drive me towards some toxic thought. So as always, salute.
Raise those prices! Don’t feel bad. I’d rather there be a shop I can come to, and bother people, pick decks up and ramble about concave, sniff shoes, whatever my weird ass is up to that day. Please don’t feel bad. Capitalism is shitty[close]
Long story short, these are the people who you can do without, or if they are unreasonable even when explaining some things to them like the last paragraph, I have found it better to say in the nicest possible way "I just can't help you. That's the price, take it or leave it."[close]
"Our prices are competitive and aligned with the market, you're welcome to do your own market research to verify this"
Then add a passive aggressive smiling emoji at the end.
Expand QuoteAnyone know where I might be able to score some Classic Full?[close]
Titus still has them in 54 and 52
Anyone know where I might be able to score some Classic Full?
I just picked up some f4 classics in 53mm/101a and I’m enjoying them a lot more than I expected to. I got them for a lighter and smaller street setup since I’m normally on 56mm+.
They are noticeably slower on anything that isn’t glassy, but it’s not unbearable and they have great feel for a hard wheel.
Expand QuoteI just picked up some f4 classics in 53mm/101a and I’m enjoying them a lot more than I expected to. I got them for a lighter and smaller street setup since I’m normally on 56mm+.
They are noticeably slower on anything that isn’t glassy, but it’s not unbearable and they have great feel for a hard wheel.[close]
Once you get used to F4s it's pretty tough switching out to anything else.
New Max Palmer Spitfire's 8)
https://www.instagram.com/p/CpdWxmoPyhm/
Expand QuoteNew Max Palmer Spitfire's 8)
https://www.instagram.com/p/CpdWxmoPyhm/[close]
Are those just conical fulls? They look kind of extra full. Conical obese
No they’re 99.
Conical full 53,55
Expand QuoteNo they’re 99.
Conical full 53,55[close]
i figured. even if 97 is more likely what max would ride i think 99a is what most consumers want in their wheel.
I’ll probably just keep rocking them. I can’t feel anything different when I skate them. I wanted to try a wider wheel which why I got them. I still have my classics if I need to switch back. Thanks!
i really need to try classics
i am just so used to conical full at this point i honestly dont evne know what anything else feels like
I'm really getting into the weeds here, but do y'all compensate your wheel size based on shapes if you change?
I'm usually a Classics guy and have gone up to 55mm without any issues, but I just bought some 54mm Conical Fulls and I feel like I'm riding a goddamn monster truck. They're comfy to cruise on but popping anything is such a chore. This is probably a dumb question but I try to not think too hard about this stuff until I have a bad sesh lol. Might just go buy some Classics after work and never change again.
do the wheel shapes affect wheelbite at all do you think? being able to go on the side of the wheel more, does that prevent biting more?
Of course it does, a wider. squarer wheel will provide more surface area for the deck to hit.The wheelbite from Classics tend to be deeper with a smaller diameter compared to Conical Full which is the opposite. [I mainly skate Thunder Hollow Lights with Team baseplates. YMMV]
All other things being the same (wheel height, truck and deck size) a classic will have a lower amount of wheel bite potential than conical full.
Wheel shape absolutely impacts wheel bite potential.
I'm really getting into the weeds here, but do y'all compensate your wheel size based on shapes if you change?
I'm usually a Classics guy and have gone up to 55mm without any issues, but I just bought some 54mm Conical Fulls and I feel like I'm riding a goddamn monster truck. They're comfy to cruise on but popping anything is such a chore. This is probably a dumb question but I try to not think too hard about this stuff until I have a bad sesh lol. Might just go buy some Classics after work and never change again.
Expand QuoteI'm really getting into the weeds here, but do y'all compensate your wheel size based on shapes if you change?
I'm usually a Classics guy and have gone up to 55mm without any issues, but I just bought some 54mm Conical Fulls and I feel like I'm riding a goddamn monster truck. They're comfy to cruise on but popping anything is such a chore. This is probably a dumb question but I try to not think too hard about this stuff until I have a bad sesh lol. Might just go buy some Classics after work and never change again.[close]
Update: ended up grabbing some Classics after work and skating a bit. Instantly felt better. If it ain’t broke don’t fix it, I guess.
Expand QuoteWheel shape absolutely impacts wheel bite potential.[close]
True
Classics dont bite as easily as raddials/conical/fulls because they are more narrow
And when they do bite, its not as hard because the edges are so round
...but I just bought some 54mm Conical Fulls and I feel like I'm riding a goddamn monster truck. They're comfy to cruise on but popping anything is such a chore.
What would the pals advice if I want to flip my board on really crusty ground? Bigger diameter wheel or wider riding surface? I am currently on 52 regular Conicals. Before that it was always 54 Classics, but they don't work that well for the kind of spots I like to ride.
Thanks @Mbrimson88
I think it will be 52 Conical Fulls then sometime in the future. I won't do 53 or 55, but that is a completely different topic.
STF beat em up good
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI'm really getting into the weeds here, but do y'all compensate your wheel size based on shapes if you change?
I'm usually a Classics guy and have gone up to 55mm without any issues, but I just bought some 54mm Conical Fulls and I feel like I'm riding a goddamn monster truck. They're comfy to cruise on but popping anything is such a chore. This is probably a dumb question but I try to not think too hard about this stuff until I have a bad sesh lol. Might just go buy some Classics after work and never change again.[close]
Update: ended up grabbing some Classics after work and skating a bit. Instantly felt better. If it ain’t broke don’t fix it, I guess.[close]
Did you get 54 mm Classics?
It's a funny thing that I would rather ride Classics, but I do like worn down Conical Full that I take the edges off for smaller all round wheels. From new I like the Classic shape, especially as a 56 mm wheel for transition stuff, but they are a bit big for everything if I am skating smaller curbs or whatever. Nice too when they have worn down a few mm.
A set of 54 mm Conical Full wheels from new feel a bit big, which is weird cause 56 mm Classics feel easier.
I had been able to get a whole lot of Classic 56 mm wheels for cheap on a big sale, so I am working my way through them. It is going to take a while though.
Expand Quote...but I just bought some 54mm Conical Fulls and I feel like I'm riding a goddamn monster truck. They're comfy to cruise on but popping anything is such a chore.[close]
That's because the conical full trend is almost as dumb as the tiny wheel trend of the early 90s. Connie Fulls are good for crust and transition. Absent that, cast them to flame. They are called "Classics" for a reason (and yes, they wheelbite far less). :)
Expand Quote...but I just bought some 54mm Conical Fulls and I feel like I'm riding a goddamn monster truck. They're comfy to cruise on but popping anything is such a chore.[close]
That's because the conical full trend is almost as dumb as the tiny wheel trend of the early 90s. Connie Fulls are good for crust and transition. Absent that, cast them to flame. They are called "Classics" for a reason (and yes, they wheelbite far less). :)
Expand QuoteExpand Quote...but I just bought some 54mm Conical Fulls and I feel like I'm riding a goddamn monster truck. They're comfy to cruise on but popping anything is such a chore.[close]
That's because the conical full trend is almost as dumb as the tiny wheel trend of the early 90s. Connie Fulls are good for crust and transition. Absent that, cast them to flame. They are called "Classics" for a reason (and yes, they wheelbite far less). :)[close]
As an alternative, I am a big fan of the regular conicals, which always seem ignored for some reason.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quote...but I just bought some 54mm Conical Fulls and I feel like I'm riding a goddamn monster truck. They're comfy to cruise on but popping anything is such a chore.[close]
That's because the conical full trend is almost as dumb as the tiny wheel trend of the early 90s. Connie Fulls are good for crust and transition. Absent that, cast them to flame. They are called "Classics" for a reason (and yes, they wheelbite far less). :)[close]
As an alternative, I am a big fan of the regular conicals, which always seem ignored for some reason.[close]
I am bewildered that regular Connies are overlooked to the extent they are (not to mention Radial/Radial Slim).
Gods I'm currently in a dilemma. I got my trucks taken away from me a month ago and they had my 55mm OG Classics. Now its fucking impossible to get those in that size or any size for that matter. Now my local only has Classics in 55-56 and has Conicals, Conical Fulls and Tablets in 54mm. Should I get Classics or go down 1mm and get regular squared off wheels? I'm a big doer of the pinch for transition and ledge skating and am wondering if it will be affected much if I go to classic shapes again? I think Im kind of overthinking it but hey some product talk never hurt anyone
Gods I'm currently in a dilemma. I got my trucks taken away from me a month ago and they had my 55mm OG Classics. Now its fucking impossible to get those in that size or any size for that matter. Now my local only has Classics in 55-56 and has Conicals, Conical Fulls and Tablets in 54mm. Should I get Classics or go down 1mm and get regular squared off wheels? I'm a big doer of the pinch for transition and ledge skating and am wondering if it will be affected much if I go to classic shapes again? I think Im kind of overthinking it but hey some product talk never hurt anyone
regular conicals i'd say are your next best if you're after OG classics
When was the last time Spitfire did .5 mm wheels? They have 99 duro Radials in 55.5 mm and 57.5 mm (although the stock photo shows 53.5 mm). Someone in the past week or two posted a photo of a garage sale board with 48.5 mm wheels.
does anyone know what makes formula fours turn so yellow? I personally like how yellow they turn but is it just the air, dirt getting soaked it, water, or wax?
Expand Quotedoes anyone know what makes formula fours turn so yellow? I personally like how yellow they turn but is it just the air, dirt getting soaked it, water, or wax?[close]
i always assumed it was the result of less dye, making them closer to urethane's natural color. i personally can't stand bright white wheels.
Sure but if that’s the case all wheels would yellow or brown as quick as F4S. F4s seem to yellow or brown a little quicker. Some F4s are even brownish to start with. I just assumed it’s bc it’s a purer urethane with less white dye.
does anyone know what makes formula fours turn so yellow? I personally like how yellow they turn but is it just the air, dirt getting soaked it, water, or wax?All of the above contribute to oxidation. They all turn yellow, or oxidize, eventually.
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When was the last time Spitfire did .5 mm wheels? They have 99 duro Radials in 55.5 mm and 57.5 mm (although the stock photo shows 53.5 mm). Someone in the past week or two posted a photo of a garage sale board with 48.5 mm wheels.[close]
I think they do them with .5 sizes from time to time, more so just as something fun, but who knows.
Someone else had said a while back it was when their finishing machine was out .5 mm but it takes a while to do all the graphics and other things, so it wouldn't be that easy just to change things up or whatever with some mistake or manufacturing issue.
On another note, Australian shops now have the new drop of wheels, including the Evan Smith mismatched colour box set, which has officially maxed out the highest price I have ever seen normal new Spitfire Formula Four wheels in this country at $99 and they are selling fast too.
https://www.ocdskateshop.com.au/products/spitfire-f4-evan-smith-visions-conical-full-55mm-99a-skateboard-wheels
SPITFIRE - F4 EVAN SMITH VISIONS CONICAL FULL 55MM 99A SKATEBOARD WHEELS
$99.00
can anyone that has ridden the 97a F4 explain how it changed the ride compared to the 99a? Are powerslides stickier, does it help with bumps? I like bombing hills and I skate around my crusty college campus so Im wondering if this is worth the investment.
can anyone that has ridden the 97a F4 explain how it changed the ride compared to the 99a? Are powerslides stickier, does it help with bumps? I like bombing hills and I skate around my crusty college campus so Im wondering if this is worth the investment.
Do any F4 classics exist in 99a 52mm that are dyed? Wanna get some non-white wheels, hopefully in green or something lol
Do any F4 classics exist in 99a 52mm that are dyed? Wanna get some non-white wheels, hopefully in green or something lol
Expand QuoteDo any F4 classics exist in 99a 52mm that are dyed? Wanna get some non-white wheels, hopefully in green or something lol[close]
Some new ones just dropped. Looks like a swirl of pink and teal
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteDo any F4 classics exist in 99a 52mm that are dyed? Wanna get some non-white wheels, hopefully in green or something lol[close]
Some new ones just dropped. Looks like a swirl of pink and teal[close]
Got a pic?
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteDo any F4 classics exist in 99a 52mm that are dyed? Wanna get some non-white wheels, hopefully in green or something lol[close]
Some new ones just dropped. Looks like a swirl of pink and teal[close]
Got a pic?[close]
It’s on their Instagram. Sorry, I don’t know how to imbed
Swirly blues
https://thepremierstore.com/products/formula-four-99-swirled-classic-wheel-52mm?_pos=51&_sid=3fc41f096&_ss=r
If anyone from DLX looks at this page, I want a Conical Slim shape wheels. Please and thank you!
Do any F4 classics exist in 99a 52mm that are dyed? Wanna get some non-white wheels, hopefully in green or something lolThese F4 99 52 swirls also just came out ↓
The Chromas are a couple seasons old but come in solid yellow if tie-dye isn’t appealing:These F4 99 52 swirls also just came out ↓Expand QuoteDo any F4 classics exist in 99a 52mm that are dyed? Wanna get some non-white wheels, hopefully in green or something lol[close]
.Yeah, a radial slim or a tablet is functionally a conical slim. I mean, you could get hung up on the specs, but reading the original request, I’m hearing “ square but narrower than a conical”.
Copied from the wheels thread, as I thought it would be relevant here anyway.Expand QuoteIf anyone from DLX looks at this page, I want a Conical Slim shape wheels. Please and thank you![close]
I would say this is better answered in the Spitfire Formula Four thread, but what size would you like to have? Both diameter and width?
The Conical 52 mm wheels are only 31 mm wide, which is pretty narrow, the 54mm barely over 32mm wide as well, so I am just wondering really what dimensions you would want?
You can use this as a reference for sizes, etc:
https://www.spitfirewheels.com/formulafour/
You would most likely be one of the many people who would ride Radial Slims just going by the stock dimensions of those wheels, which really are almost the same shape and just a bit thinner than Conical wheels, certainly no more in weight or how they perform.
I have used an angle grinder on Conical wheels to thin out the profile before for other Slap pals, as well as doing that on older Conical Full wheels to give a more rounded lip as I prefer Classics that have worn down a bit, so it wouldn't be too hard to make something work from their existing range in a shape you prefer.
Just a thought anyway.
Does anyone find the F4 Tablets shape a bit too... for a lack of a better word, angular or clunky? I don't know if it's just my mind playing tricks on me, but I could swear my old-ass ankles feel more pain when riding Tablets as opposed to the smooth ride of e.g. the Classic shape. The pains of being almost 50 and skating, I know.
Does anyone find the F4 Tablets shape a bit too... for a lack of a better word, angular or clunky? I don't know if it's just my mind playing tricks on me, but I could swear my old-ass ankles feel more pain when riding Tablets as opposed to the smooth ride of e.g. the Classic shape. The pains of being almost 50 and skating, I know.
Expand QuoteDoes anyone find the F4 Tablets shape a bit too... for a lack of a better word, angular or clunky? I don't know if it's just my mind playing tricks on me, but I could swear my old-ass ankles feel more pain when riding Tablets as opposed to the smooth ride of e.g. the Classic shape. The pains of being almost 50 and skating, I know.[close]
Having tried them a few times, they're just not for me...Conicals are better imo, or just roll the classics...you know, until DLX starts making more Radial Slims...;)
Yeah, a radial slim or a tablet is functionally a conical slim. I mean, you could get hung up on the specs, but reading the original request, I’m hearing “ square but narrower than a conical”.Expand Quote.
Copied from the wheels thread, as I thought it would be relevant here anyway.Expand QuoteIf anyone from DLX looks at this page, I want a Conical Slim shape wheels. Please and thank you![close]
I would say this is better answered in the Spitfire Formula Four thread, but what size would you like to have? Both diameter and width?
The Conical 52 mm wheels are only 31 mm wide, which is pretty narrow, the 54mm barely over 32mm wide as well, so I am just wondering really what dimensions you would want?
You can use this as a reference for sizes, etc:
https://www.spitfirewheels.com/formulafour/
You would most likely be one of the many people who would ride Radial Slims just going by the stock dimensions of those wheels, which really are almost the same shape and just a bit thinner than Conical wheels, certainly no more in weight or how they perform.
I have used an angle grinder on Conical wheels to thin out the profile before for other Slap pals, as well as doing that on older Conical Full wheels to give a more rounded lip as I prefer Classics that have worn down a bit, so it wouldn't be too hard to make something work from their existing range in a shape you prefer.
Just a thought anyway.[close]
Contemplating the pinkish teal swirls.
(https://i.ibb.co/tKg38S9/whools.png)
The Chromas are a couple seasons old but come in solid yellow if tie-dye isn’t appealing:Expand QuoteThese F4 99 52 swirls also just came out ↓Expand QuoteDo any F4 classics exist in 99a 52mm that are dyed? Wanna get some non-white wheels, hopefully in green or something lol[close][close]
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0028/6756/0494/products/303StudioSession-2627_490x.progressive.jpg?v=1649194808)
https://www.303boards.com/products/spitfire-99-formula-4-chroma-classic-yellow-wheels-52mm
These F4 99 52 swirls also just came out [/size]Expand QuoteDo any F4 classics exist in 99a 52mm that are dyed? Wanna get some non-white wheels, hopefully in green or something lol[close]
Contemplating the pinkish teal swirls.
Expand QuoteThese F4 99 52 swirls also just came out [/size]Expand QuoteDo any F4 classics exist in 99a 52mm that are dyed? Wanna get some non-white wheels, hopefully in green or something lol[close][close]Expand QuoteContemplating the pinkish teal swirls.[close]
Where are these or who has them in stock?
I just don't recall seeing any of these, but I haven't looked very hard either. Nothing new comes up on a simple search.
Dug around a little bit and it looks like Cowtown has 'emExpand QuoteExpand QuoteThese F4 99 52 swirls also just came out [/size]Expand QuoteDo any F4 classics exist in 99a 52mm that are dyed? Wanna get some non-white wheels, hopefully in green or something lol[close][close]Expand QuoteContemplating the pinkish teal swirls.[close]
Where are these or who has them in stock?
I just don't recall seeing any of these, but I haven't looked very hard either. Nothing new comes up on a simple search.[close]
I don't see any either, so far just Zumiez. Anyone else got any links?
Dug around a little bit and it looks like Cowtown has 'emExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteThese F4 99 52 swirls also just came out [/size]Expand QuoteDo any F4 classics exist in 99a 52mm that are dyed? Wanna get some non-white wheels, hopefully in green or something lol[close][close]Expand QuoteContemplating the pinkish teal swirls.[close]
Where are these or who has them in stock?
I just don't recall seeing any of these, but I haven't looked very hard either. Nothing new comes up on a simple search.[close]
I don't see any either, so far just Zumiez. Anyone else got any links?[close]
Here's the link: https://www.cowtownskateboards.com/product_detail.cfm?CatID=32&PID=68220&SKU=186768&LinkID=1
NGL, 52mm always get the shitty swirl colors.
https://letmegooglethat.com/
(https://i.ibb.co/hFxkSHp/317-F92-E1-4175-40-CE-8-E8-B-6-AD1-B18125-D1.png) (https://ibb.co/hFxkSHp)
It’s all about the riding surface with classic fulls compared to classics.
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thanks man i had a look at this while ago but was weirded how the width on the fulls were smaller
https://limosineskateboards.com/products/max-palmer-limosine-54-mm-classic-full-formula-4-spitfire-wheel?fbclid=PAAaZ1PR8KkiCWypS6LCKuUm21O27pdN58xPLy5IoUts0dWc0_2C5xj1VSb9Q
ayo 54mm classic full
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thanks man i had a look at this while ago but was weirded how the width on the fulls were smaller[close]
The dimensions over 54 mm were always off, especially in the 56 and 58 mm sizes, which is what I usually had (and still do have).
So the sizes are really as follows:
Classic Full chart correct to 54mm and measurements just taken again on wheels I have:
52 33 18
53 33.5 18.5
54 34 19
54.5 35 19.5
56 37 22.5
58 38 24
* The 54.5 were the Cardiel specials, just in case anyone was confused.
Edit:
Sorry if it might seem like I am being overbearing. It just bugs me when they could never get their size chart right for some reason.
Had to grab some new wheels from my local. Got 58 f4 conical fulls. They’re pretty much white. As long as they function like a formula four it’s fine but I was almost disappointed it wasn’t potato color
White wheels = mid 90’s - mid 00’s steelo. Made me think of the @koolmoeleo page.Expand QuoteHad to grab some new wheels from my local. Got 58 f4 conical fulls. They’re pretty much white. As long as they function like a formula four it’s fine but I was almost disappointed it wasn’t potato color[close]
I’m actually stoked that they’re white now. Before F4’s were the end all be all of wheels, I used to love getting a brand new set of wheels. Sparking white. Subtle flex at the skatepark. One of the placebo effects for me personally. Flexing new gear, I was definitely going to skating better
I got these ones not sure why other than I was searching lil smokies
Came across these and had a moment
Never had swirls in my life, I like them but I think on someone else's setup
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Also the reason I got back online was to post this:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CqmURL7r_57/
Expand QuoteI got these ones not sure why other than I was searching lil smokies
Came across these and had a moment
Never had swirls in my life, I like them but I think on someone else's setup[close]
I kept looking at those on ebay.com.au / Kickpush shop but I kept thinking they are too small and I don't need more wheels, but there are still two sets in stock.
Do they look better in the stock picture than they do in real life???
https://www.kickpush.com.au/spitfire-lil-smokies-swirl-f4-99d-51mm-skateboard
(https://www.kickpush.com.au/assets/full/1319992.jpg)
What's the best way to do this? I've seen some people do dye only (no water), or leave it in for a week up to a month, or vary their temperatures, etc.
Gonna give it a try as long as the heat doesn't degrade the F4s
lol skeleton key... ;D
i want to say my 14 year old self would really want a green on purple wheel but lets not kid ourselves i still want that now
the green on black is definintely more tasteful
do the coloured formula feel different to the main ones? I noticed on Bones STF the colored wheels felt significantly stickier (not sure if they were same duro though) the white ones i have feel so damn light and plasticy vs. the black ones feel heavier and more solid
Expand Quotelol skeleton key... ;D
i want to say my 14 year old self would really want a green on purple wheel but lets not kid ourselves i still want that now
the green on black is definintely more tasteful
do the coloured formula feel different to the main ones? I noticed on Bones STF the colored wheels felt significantly stickier (not sure if they were same duro though) the white ones i have feel so damn light and plasticy vs. the black ones feel heavier and more solid[close]
I think the technology has now come far enough that any of the different coloured Spitfire wheels still feel the same in terms of hardness, slide and longevity.
From the half a dozen sets of different colours I have had / still have in used sets in 99 duro, be it the solid single colours or the mix n match or even swirls, they all seemed to be the same, but like you said, some others have definitely felt like other wheels were harder or softer in different colours.
Back in the day, people would often get certain colour wheels if they wanted softer and others if they wanted harder because some of the dyes really did affect the performance of the wheels.
Expand QuoteExpand Quotelol skeleton key... ;D
i want to say my 14 year old self would really want a green on purple wheel but lets not kid ourselves i still want that now
the green on black is definintely more tasteful
do the coloured formula feel different to the main ones? I noticed on Bones STF the colored wheels felt significantly stickier (not sure if they were same duro though) the white ones i have feel so damn light and plasticy vs. the black ones feel heavier and more solid[close]
I think the technology has now come far enough that any of the different coloured Spitfire wheels still feel the same in terms of hardness, slide and longevity.
From the half a dozen sets of different colours I have had / still have in used sets in 99 duro, be it the solid single colours or the mix n match or even swirls, they all seemed to be the same, but like you said, some others have definitely felt like other wheels were harder or softer in different colours.
Back in the day, people would often get certain colour wheels if they wanted softer and others if they wanted harder because some of the dyes really did affect the performance of the wheels.[close]
Still happening now really, everyone who rode the old white 99a STFs liked them better than the new brown ones.
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What's the best way to do this? I've seen some people do dye only (no water), or leave it in for a week up to a month, or vary their temperatures, etc.
Gonna give it a try as long as the heat doesn't degrade the F4s[close]
idk about the best way, but imo that was way to short for that dye to get in to anything but the outside layer. gonna be riding 50-50 creamcicles at the end of the day.
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What's the best way to do this? I've seen some people do dye only (no water), or leave it in for a week up to a month, or vary their temperatures, etc.
Gonna give it a try as long as the heat doesn't degrade the F4s[close]
idk about the best way, but imo that was way to short for that dye to get in to anything but the outside layer. gonna be riding 50-50 creamcicles at the end of the day.[close]
Best luck I had was rit synthetic in a quart jar cold soak for as long as you can stand it. Days, weeks, months. Just enough water to cover so shit is max concentration.
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There are definitely different ways to make it work, but the few sets I have seen others dye penetrated less than a single mm into the wheel. They looked good when done, then kinda looked cool too when they wore down as the sidewall was still coloured but the riding surface was back to a natural colour. Not sure if some wheels had the dye really get in a lot more than others, but also keen to hear if anyone else has done this and have their results show.
Darren Navarrette used to bulk dye a lot of the original formula Spitfires in tubs where they would sit on skewers / sticks to hold the wheels half in / half out to get some crazy trippy combos like this page:
https://www.skeletonkeymfg.com/creature-bat-wing.html
(https://www.skeletonkeymfg.com/uploads/2/1/9/0/21905144/450277_orig.png)
Then the Spitfire and Skeleton Key colab had a single half dyed wheel with three plain too.
https://www.spitfirewheels.com/spitfire-x-skeletonkey/
https://www.nativeskatestore.co.uk/skateboards-c7/skateboard-wheels-c8/spitfire-wheels-x-skeleton-key-mfg-99d-skateboard-wheels-59mm-p26672
(https://www.nativeskatestore.co.uk/images/spitfire-wheels-x-skeleton-key-mfg-99d-skateboard-wheels-59mm-p26672-65599_image.jpg)
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What's the best way to do this? I've seen some people do dye only (no water), or leave it in for a week up to a month, or vary their temperatures, etc.
Gonna give it a try as long as the heat doesn't degrade the F4s[close]
idk about the best way, but imo that was way to short for that dye to get in to anything but the outside layer. gonna be riding 50-50 creamcicles at the end of the day.[close]
Best luck I had was rit synthetic in a quart jar cold soak for as long as you can stand it. Days, weeks, months. Just enough water to cover so shit is max concentration.[close]
How far in did it penetrate?
Riding surface is what I had in mind, or how long did you skate them?
Thanks.
First time skating f4s 99s.Ride around some rough terrain to create some texture on the riding surface and they should be way better.
In a slick park I have the feeling they don’t grip as good as other wheels. I had stf‘s for example. I even had orbs. When landing a bit sideway and slide a backside 180 around they don’t grip hood to me. I hope this will change when I’m used to them
Ride around some rough terrain to create some texture on the riding surface and they should be way better.Expand QuoteFirst time skating f4s 99s.
In a slick park I have the feeling they don’t grip as good as other wheels. I had stf‘s for example. I even had orbs. When landing a bit sideway and slide a backside 180 around they don’t grip hood to me. I hope this will change when I’m used to them[close]
First time skating f4s 99s.
In a slick park I have the feeling they don’t grip as good as other wheels. I had stf‘s for example. I even had orbs. When landing a bit sideway and slide a backside 180 around they don’t grip hood to me. I hope this will change when I’m used to them
lol skeleton key... ;D
i want to say my 14 year old self would really want a green on purple wheel but lets not kid ourselves i still want that now
the green on black is definintely more tasteful
do the coloured formula feel different to the main ones? I noticed on Bones STF the colored wheels felt significantly stickier (not sure if they were same duro though) the white ones i have feel so damn light and plasticy vs. the black ones feel heavier and more solid
Expand QuoteFirst time skating f4s 99s.
In a slick park I have the feeling they don’t grip as good as other wheels. I had stf‘s for example. I even had orbs. When landing a bit sideway and slide a backside 180 around they don’t grip hood to me. I hope this will change when I’m used to them[close]
how fresh is your set? 99 f4s are icy out the box. power slide them around on street and once they break in you’ll see
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteFirst time skating f4s 99s.
In a slick park I have the feeling they don’t grip as good as other wheels. I had stf‘s for example. I even had orbs. When landing a bit sideway and slide a backside 180 around they don’t grip hood to me. I hope this will change when I’m used to them[close]
how fresh is your set? 99 f4s are icy out the box. power slide them around on street and once they break in you’ll see[close]
Skated them maybe for bit over two hours in a very slick park.
Ok, if they will change everything is fine.
They don’t even have any grooves when they are brand new. I think my other wheels had, but not sure
It would be really sick if they made 58 OG classics again. I hope these do go the way of the Mike Anderson SFWs I miss those. I think I had 56s of those though.
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What's the best way to do this? I've seen some people do dye only (no water), or leave it in for a week up to a month, or vary their temperatures, etc.
Gonna give it a try as long as the heat doesn't degrade the F4s[close]
idk about the best way, but imo that was way to short for that dye to get in to anything but the outside layer. gonna be riding 50-50 creamcicles at the end of the day.[close]
Best luck I had was rit synthetic in a quart jar cold soak for as long as you can stand it. Days, weeks, months. Just enough water to cover so shit is max concentration.[close]
How far in did it penetrate?
Riding surface is what I had in mind, or how long did you skate them?
Thanks.[close]
Wow. I just cut one in half. Way more than I thought. I’d say it penetrated 6mm or so. Biggest thing I see is that the outer couple mms are the darkest, so the riding surface will show wear, but it’s a long way before getting to natural. From what I remember, that one soaked for several days but less than a week. Also, it’s surprisingly easy to cut a 95a wheel in half with a sharp knife.
Expand QuoteIt would be really sick if they made 58 OG classics again. I hope these do go the way of the Mike Anderson SFWs I miss those. I think I had 56s of those though.[close]
Just wait...
You won't be disappointed.
Please bring back the OG Classics it is the best shape of them all!Expand QuoteExpand QuoteIt would be really sick if they made 58 OG classics again. I hope these do go the way of the Mike Anderson SFWs I miss those. I think I had 56s of those though.[close]
Just wait...
You won't be disappointed.[close]
Tell me more.
More OG classics soon?
Please bring back the OG Classics it is the best shape of them all!Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteIt would be really sick if they made 58 OG classics again. I hope these do go the way of the Mike Anderson SFWs I miss those. I think I had 56s of those though.[close]
Just wait...
You won't be disappointed.[close]
Tell me more.
More OG classics soon?[close]
Expand QuotePlease bring back the OG Classics it is the best shape of them all!Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteIt would be really sick if they made 58 OG classics again. I hope these do go the way of the Mike Anderson SFWs I miss those. I think I had 56s of those though.[close]
Just wait...
You won't be disappointed.[close]
Tell me more.
More OG classics soon?[close][close]
People in the know have said the 58 and 60mm OG Classics will be coming out again in the next drop or so, as per previous messages in this thread or others.
I don't know when or any other details, but I have been keeping track of things, as I like to do with Spitfire wheels.
Expand QuoteExpand QuotePlease bring back the OG Classics it is the best shape of them all!Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteIt would be really sick if they made 58 OG classics again. I hope these do go the way of the Mike Anderson SFWs I miss those. I think I had 56s of those though.[close]
Just wait...
You won't be disappointed.[close]
Tell me more.
More OG classics soon?[close][close]
People in the know have said the 58 and 60mm OG Classics will be coming out again in the next drop or so, as per previous messages in this thread or others.
I don't know when or any other details, but I have been keeping track of things, as I like to do with Spitfire wheels.[close]
Just curious, what makes you hold out for these giant OGs instead of supplementing with some con fulls or radials that have been out in the past? Are you mostly skating big transitions and like the largest contact patch while keeping the width as small as possible?
Expand QuotePlease bring back the OG Classics it is the best shape of them all!Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteIt would be really sick if they made 58 OG classics again. I hope these do go the way of the Mike Anderson SFWs I miss those. I think I had 56s of those though.[close]
Just wait...
You won't be disappointed.[close]
Tell me more.
More OG classics soon?[close][close]
People in the know have said the 58 and 60mm OG Classics will be coming out again in the next drop or so, as per previous messages in this thread or others.
I don't know when or any other details, but I have been keeping track of things, as I like to do with Spitfire wheels.
Expand QuoteExpand QuotePlease bring back the OG Classics it is the best shape of them all!Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteIt would be really sick if they made 58 OG classics again. I hope these do go the way of the Mike Anderson SFWs I miss those. I think I had 56s of those though.[close]
Just wait...
You won't be disappointed.[close]
Tell me more.
More OG classics soon?[close][close]
People in the know have said the 58 and 60mm OG Classics will be coming out again in the next drop or so, as per previous messages in this thread or others.
I don't know when or any other details, but I have been keeping track of things, as I like to do with Spitfire wheels.[close]
Just curious, what makes you hold out for these giant OGs instead of supplementing with some con fulls or radials that have been out in the past? Are you mostly skating big transitions and like the largest contact patch while keeping the width as small as possible?
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuotePlease bring back the OG Classics it is the best shape of them all!Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteIt would be really sick if they made 58 OG classics again. I hope these do go the way of the Mike Anderson SFWs I miss those. I think I had 56s of those though.[close]
Just wait...
You won't be disappointed.[close]
Tell me more.
More OG classics soon?[close][close]
People in the know have said the 58 and 60mm OG Classics will be coming out again in the next drop or so, as per previous messages in this thread or others.
I don't know when or any other details, but I have been keeping track of things, as I like to do with Spitfire wheels.[close]
Just curious, what makes you hold out for these giant OGs instead of supplementing with some con fulls or radials that have been out in the past? Are you mostly skating big transitions and like the largest contact patch while keeping the width as small as possible?[close]
My favorite skater is Matt Reason and I live in New Jersey and lots of the ground I even skate flat on is garbage. Big wheels make it easier
Expand QuoteExpand QuotePlease bring back the OG Classics it is the best shape of them all!Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteIt would be really sick if they made 58 OG classics again. I hope these do go the way of the Mike Anderson SFWs I miss those. I think I had 56s of those though.[close]
Just wait...
You won't be disappointed.[close]
Tell me more.
More OG classics soon?[close][close]
People in the know have said the 58 and 60mm OG Classics will be coming out again in the next drop or so, as per previous messages in this thread or others.
I don't know when or any other details, but I have been keeping track of things, as I like to do with Spitfire wheels.[close]
Just curious, what makes you hold out for these giant OGs instead of supplementing with some con fulls or radials that have been out in the past? Are you mostly skating big transitions and like the largest contact patch while keeping the width as small as possible?
I know this is the Formula Four thread, but are there any Non F4 spitfire wheels worth checking out? I noticed they do a 80du wheel, I feel like n oone ever talks about spitfire for a cruiser wheel, maybe just better off to go with OJ or Dragons or something if I want that type of wheel?
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There are definitely different ways to make it work, but the few sets I have seen others dye penetrated less than a single mm into the wheel. They looked good when done, then kinda looked cool too when they wore down as the sidewall was still coloured but the riding surface was back to a natural colour. Not sure if some wheels had the dye really get in a lot more than others, but also keen to hear if anyone else has done this and have their results show.
Darren Navarrette used to bulk dye a lot of the original formula Spitfires in tubs where they would sit on skewers / sticks to hold the wheels half in / half out to get some crazy trippy combos like this page:
https://www.skeletonkeymfg.com/creature-bat-wing.html
(https://www.skeletonkeymfg.com/uploads/2/1/9/0/21905144/450277_orig.png)
Then the Spitfire and Skeleton Key colab had a single half dyed wheel with three plain too.
https://www.spitfirewheels.com/spitfire-x-skeletonkey/
https://www.nativeskatestore.co.uk/skateboards-c7/skateboard-wheels-c8/spitfire-wheels-x-skeleton-key-mfg-99d-skateboard-wheels-59mm-p26672
(https://www.nativeskatestore.co.uk/images/spitfire-wheels-x-skeleton-key-mfg-99d-skateboard-wheels-59mm-p26672-65599_image.jpg)[close]
those are killer
Expand QuoteI know this is the Formula Four thread, but are there any Non F4 spitfire wheels worth checking out? I noticed they do a 80du wheel, I feel like n oone ever talks about spitfire for a cruiser wheel, maybe just better off to go with OJ or Dragons or something if I want that type of wheel?[close]
I'm pretty sure the consensus on Chargers is that they are the 1 wheel Spitfire cannot do right. Ricta / OJ do a better job.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI know this is the Formula Four thread, but are there any Non F4 spitfire wheels worth checking out? I noticed they do a 80du wheel, I feel like n oone ever talks about spitfire for a cruiser wheel, maybe just better off to go with OJ or Dragons or something if I want that type of wheel?[close]
I'm pretty sure the consensus on Chargers is that they are the 1 wheel Spitfire cannot do right. Ricta / OJ do a better job.[close]
They’ve advertised new, reformulated cruiser wheels recently (the hexagon cutout in the center is an easy way to find the new ones, and they also have real shapes listed around the center, either Classic Full or Conical Full). I bought a set of the 58 CFs. They look amazing, but I probably won’t be skating them for a while. Already have two big cruisers and one mini cruiser that I ride to work regularly.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI know this is the Formula Four thread, but are there any Non F4 spitfire wheels worth checking out? I noticed they do a 80du wheel, I feel like n oone ever talks about spitfire for a cruiser wheel, maybe just better off to go with OJ or Dragons or something if I want that type of wheel?[close]
I'm pretty sure the consensus on Chargers is that they are the 1 wheel Spitfire cannot do right. Ricta / OJ do a better job.[close]
They’ve advertised new, reformulated cruiser wheels recently (the hexagon cutout in the center is an easy way to find the new ones, and they also have real shapes listed around the center, either Classic Full or Conical Full). I bought a set of the 58 CFs. They look amazing, but I probably won’t be skating them for a while. Already have two big cruisers and one mini cruiser that I ride to work regularly.[close]
A friend recently got the 80HD 56mm conical full for his cruiser and loves them. He even manages to slide them somehow, probably his longboarding background. I rode them around and they're smooth and fast. I don't think I could have noticed a difference to 78 ricta clouds, but I only rode them for 5mins or so.
Definitely not the kind of soft wheel that feels super slow
Thanks for your responses on the 80HDs guys i noticed those are the newest wheels from spitfire…
Expand QuoteThanks for your responses on the 80HDs guys i noticed those are the newest wheels from spitfire…[close]
Def not new. They been around awhile. I have a set for turbo crust spots. Work great for that purpose, but def don’t slide.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteThanks for your responses on the 80HDs guys i noticed those are the newest wheels from spitfire…[close]
Def not new. They been around awhile. I have a set for turbo crust spots. Work great for that purpose, but def don’t slide.[close]
yeah from what i recall the 80HD has been the main cruiser Spitfire makes for the last decade
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteThanks for your responses on the 80HDs guys i noticed those are the newest wheels from spitfire…[close]
Def not new. They been around awhile. I have a set for turbo crust spots. Work great for that purpose, but def don’t slide.[close]
yeah from what i recall the 80HD has been the main cruiser Spitfire makes for the last decade[close]
Yes, but they did just re-tool the formula and release new shapes, so in a way they are the newest.
I think they really should have changed the name/marketing/look of them more because most people don’t realize they changed them.
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What's the best way to do this? I've seen some people do dye only (no water), or leave it in for a week up to a month, or vary their temperatures, etc.
Gonna give it a try as long as the heat doesn't degrade the F4s[close]
idk about the best way, but imo that was way to short for that dye to get in to anything but the outside layer. gonna be riding 50-50 creamcicles at the end of the day.[close]
Best luck I had was rit synthetic in a quart jar cold soak for as long as you can stand it. Days, weeks, months. Just enough water to cover so shit is max concentration.[close]
How far in did it penetrate?
Riding surface is what I had in mind, or how long did you skate them?
Thanks.[close]
Wow. I just cut one in half. Way more than I thought. I’d say it penetrated 6mm or so. Biggest thing I see is that the outer couple mms are the darkest, so the riding surface will show wear, but it’s a long way before getting to natural. From what I remember, that one soaked for several days but less than a week. Also, it’s surprisingly easy to cut a 95a wheel in half with a sharp knife.[close]
I would be very interested to see pics...[close]
(https://i.ibb.co/16WtT0m/image.jpg) (https://ibb.co/16WtT0m)
Nfg 56mm 95a cold soaked in Rit Synthetic
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What's the best way to do this? I've seen some people do dye only (no water), or leave it in for a week up to a month, or vary their temperatures, etc.
Gonna give it a try as long as the heat doesn't degrade the F4s[close]
idk about the best way, but imo that was way to short for that dye to get in to anything but the outside layer. gonna be riding 50-50 creamcicles at the end of the day.[close]
Best luck I had was rit synthetic in a quart jar cold soak for as long as you can stand it. Days, weeks, months. Just enough water to cover so shit is max concentration.[close]
How far in did it penetrate?
Riding surface is what I had in mind, or how long did you skate them?
Thanks.[close]
Wow. I just cut one in half. Way more than I thought. I’d say it penetrated 6mm or so. Biggest thing I see is that the outer couple mms are the darkest, so the riding surface will show wear, but it’s a long way before getting to natural. From what I remember, that one soaked for several days but less than a week. Also, it’s surprisingly easy to cut a 95a wheel in half with a sharp knife.[close]
I would be very interested to see pics...[close]
(https://i.ibb.co/16WtT0m/image.jpg) (https://ibb.co/16WtT0m)
Nfg 56mm 95a cold soaked in Rit Synthetic[close]
That's amazing!!!
Thanks for the pic.
@beandemon about how long did that wheel soak?
Anyone have the scoop on when we will see spring drop 2? Sounds like OG classics will be included and hoping to see classic fulls come back.OG Classics aren't back until Summer (54, 58 and 60) and Classic Fulls remain available in special drops only though I didn't see anything in that shape outside of the new 80HD wheels.
Anyone have the scoop on when we will see spring drop 2? Sounds like OG classics will be included and hoping to see classic fulls come back.
i want these ^ i dont see them for sale anywhere in canada thoughFor whatever reason, I've found that the lil smokies tend to hit australian shops before anywhere else. Chances are in a couple weeks you'll start to see those pop up around north america
For us the classic formula wheels ~$50
F4s are about $60-65 CAD
is the price point more in line with what the classic formula wheels are?
The smallest i can easily find in f4s was 52mm actually and i was wanting to go smaller
For whatever reason, I've found that the lil smokies tend to hit australian shops before anywhere else. Chances are in a couple weeks you'll start to see those pop up around north americaExpand Quotei want these ^ i dont see them for sale anywhere in canada though
For us the classic formula wheels ~$50
F4s are about $60-65 CAD
is the price point more in line with what the classic formula wheels are?
The smallest i can easily find in f4s was 52mm actually and i was wanting to go smaller[close]
Expand QuoteFor whatever reason, I've found that the lil smokies tend to hit australian shops before anywhere else. Chances are in a couple weeks you'll start to see those pop up around north americaExpand Quotei want these ^ i dont see them for sale anywhere in canada though
For us the classic formula wheels ~$50
F4s are about $60-65 CAD
is the price point more in line with what the classic formula wheels are?
The smallest i can easily find in f4s was 52mm actually and i was wanting to go smaller[close][close]
those conical lil smokies from a couple months ago never hit europe. only saw them in australia and japan.
i did see a load of 50mm tablets hit EU shops again.
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Might be a one off thing, but a local shop here in Australia has some variations on the Lil Smokies, including a 51mm black Radial shape. Currently two sets in stock.
As others had said before, the Lil Smokies are the wheels made from other larger wheels that for whatever reason seemed to not make the grade, so they shape them down and repackage them as these wheels.
Awesome if you want smaller wheels in familiar shapes, often in very unique options.
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/234979874154
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To the DLX heads reading
Please, please, please, please please Bring back
OG Classics in 55mm. Best wheel ever and it sucks that it was taken away from us that suddenly
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Might be a one off thing, but a local shop here in Australia has some variations on the Lil Smokies, including a 51mm black Radial shape. Currently two sets in stock.
As others had said before, the Lil Smokies are the wheels made from other larger wheels that for whatever reason seemed to not make the grade, so they shape them down and repackage them as these wheels.
Awesome if you want smaller wheels in familiar shapes, often in very unique options.
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/234979874154[close]
If these were 99's I would of bought these
I'm looking for 51mm 99a radials at the moment and don't care what colour
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Might be a one off thing, but a local shop here in Australia has some variations on the Lil Smokies, including a 51mm black Radial shape. Currently two sets in stock.
As others had said before, the Lil Smokies are the wheels made from other larger wheels that for whatever reason seemed to not make the grade, so they shape them down and repackage them as these wheels.
Awesome if you want smaller wheels in familiar shapes, often in very unique options.
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/234979874154[close]
If these were 99's I would of bought these
I'm looking for 51mm 99a radials at the moment and don't care what colour[close]
That is the first 51 mm Radial shaped set of wheels I have ever seen, as far as I can recall.
Radial Slim came in smaller sizes like 51 mm, but not normal Radials.
Definitely had or seen the Radial shape in 52 mm as well as 53, 54, 55, 56, 57 and 58 mm through various standard options, pro special editions or colabs, but I guess that is what makes Lil Smokies so unique as well.
Even looking globally, this is the only set that pops up.
There seem to be most other shapes out there in Lil Smokies - Classic, Conical, Conical Full, Tablet, and now Radial.
On the same shop site, either Kick Push or their store on ebay, there are a ton of Lil Smokies, most in 99 duro and 50, 51 mm options in Conical or Conical Full that would be closest in overall size and shape.
Even a few other surprises on ebay or online, but all in other countries, so that doesn't help you at all.
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Might be a one off thing, but a local shop here in Australia has some variations on the Lil Smokies, including a 51mm black Radial shape. Currently two sets in stock.
As others had said before, the Lil Smokies are the wheels made from other larger wheels that for whatever reason seemed to not make the grade, so they shape them down and repackage them as these wheels.
Awesome if you want smaller wheels in familiar shapes, often in very unique options.
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/234979874154[close]
If these were 99's I would of bought these
I'm looking for 51mm 99a radials at the moment and don't care what colour[close]
That is the first 51 mm Radial shaped set of wheels I have ever seen, as far as I can recall.
Radial Slim came in smaller sizes like 51 mm, but not normal Radials.
Definitely had or seen the Radial shape in 52 mm as well as 53, 54, 55, 56, 57 and 58 mm through various standard options, pro special editions or colabs, but I guess that is what makes Lil Smokies so unique as well.
Even looking globally, this is the only set that pops up.
There seem to be most other shapes out there in Lil Smokies - Classic, Conical, Conical Full, Tablet, and now Radial.
On the same shop site, either Kick Push or their store on ebay, there are a ton of Lil Smokies, most in 99 duro and 50, 51 mm options in Conical or Conical Full that would be closest in overall size and shape.
Even a few other surprises on ebay or online, but all in other countries, so that doesn't help you at all.[close]
But.... black wheels.....v :-X
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But.... black wheels.....v :-X[close]
I was fooled by the spitfire size and shape guide they have Radials listed at 51
All good I ended up getting the last set of classic lil smokies 51mm from Kickpush
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But.... black wheels.....v :-X[close]
I was fooled by the spitfire size and shape guide they have Radials listed at 51
All good I ended up getting the last set of classic lil smokies 51mm from Kickpush[close]
Ha yeah, not a worry.
Any other option besides white / natural can sometimes lead to wheel crisis / madness, but they all have their place and I think someone somewhere would be stoked on them.
To be fair re Radials in 51 mm, I think any wheel in that size would almost be a slim option anyway, when compared to other larger wheels of the same style, given Spitfire wheel dimensions get more narrow as they go down in diameter.
Guessing the Lil Smokies version of normal Radials would be around 51 x 31 with an 18.5 mm riding surface.
The Radial Slims in that size are 51 x 29.5 with an 18 mm riding surface, as per the chart.
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But.... black wheels.....v :-X[close]
I was fooled by the spitfire size and shape guide they have Radials listed at 51
All good I ended up getting the last set of classic lil smokies 51mm from Kickpush[close]
Ha yeah, not a worry.
Any other option besides white / natural can sometimes lead to wheel crisis / madness, but they all have their place and I think someone somewhere would be stoked on them.
To be fair re Radials in 51 mm, I think any wheel in that size would almost be a slim option anyway, when compared to other larger wheels of the same style, given Spitfire wheel dimensions get more narrow as they go down in diameter.
Guessing the Lil Smokies version of normal Radials would be around 51 x 31 with an 18.5 mm riding surface.
The Radial Slims in that size are 51 x 29.5 with an 18 mm riding surface, as per the chart.
This may be the closest thing we get to 99a Radial Slims, I may have to bite the bullet and go black wheels (shudders)
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This may be the closest thing we get to 99a Radial Slims, I may have to bite the bullet and go black wheels (shudders)[close]
I still think the Conical shape is closest.
They were the ones I took a little bit off each side, to make them as close to Radial Slim as I could.
How much would a cheap, battery recharge type of angle grinder cost?
Might cost less than your sanity with no more Radial Slims...
;)
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This may be the closest thing we get to 99a Radial Slims, I may have to bite the bullet and go black wheels (shudders)[close]
I still think the Conical shape is closest.
They were the ones I took a little bit off each side, to make them as close to Radial Slim as I could.
How much would a cheap, battery recharge type of angle grinder cost?
Might cost less than your sanity with no more Radial Slims...
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I want to do this to my conicals. I keep talking about it. I’m just afraid I’m gonna mess up. Like have 4 different radiuses or something.
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This may be the closest thing we get to 99a Radial Slims, I may have to bite the bullet and go black wheels (shudders)[close]
I still think the Conical shape is closest.
They were the ones I took a little bit off each side, to make them as close to Radial Slim as I could.
How much would a cheap, battery recharge type of angle grinder cost?
Might cost less than your sanity with no more Radial Slims...
;)[close]
I want to do this to my conicals. I keep talking about it. I’m just afraid I’m gonna mess up. Like have 4 different radiuses or something.[close]
I found it best to work on an old set of wheels first, feel it out and see what is good.
When I hold the angle grinder, I usually have one hand firmly on the handle, the other supporting the guard on it while resting on the truck, often but not always a foot on the board, flat on its back on a solid floor.
That was easier than on a bench, in a vice or other thing, but everyone is different, so see what works for you more than anything.
Also just go easy at it, a little here going more back and forth, left to right or rocking motion as I did it - figure out what is best and don't do too much at a time.
For the Conical to Radial Slim shape, I took off just a little of the middle area (widest point) and slightly rounded it back over that edge to the riding surface, so they really didn't need much at all for that change.
When I round off the Conical Full to a bit more rounder edge, it takes a bit more.
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Expand QuoteTo the DLX heads reading
Please, please, please, please please Bring back
OG Classics in 55mm. Best wheel ever and it sucks that it was taken away from us that suddenly[close]
TOTALLY seconded. One of my all-time favorite wheels.
does anybody know if the colored formula fours feel different than the white ones?
call me crazy but i have this idea in my head that they perform differently
Expand Quotedoes anybody know if the colored formula fours feel different than the white ones?
call me crazy but i have this idea in my head that they perform differently[close]
Thankfully they are all exactly the same for the same duro, eg 99 natural or any colour or swirl all perform in the same way, slide the same, etc.
Some of the 101 felt a bit different between different sets, not that colour has anything to do with that, just a bit more funny in how they perform, even between a few different natural / white sets, but I almost feel like the 101 coloured options are more uniform when I have tried them.
Back in the old days (80s), there definitely was something to it, as others have said, different additives for colour options had different effects on the performance of the wheels, but I think somewhere along the way, almost every wheel maker can make wheels of any colour or option that perform the same now.
does anybody know if the colored formula fours feel different than the white ones?i will swear by colored spits feeling different. softer, or more forgiving.
call me crazy but i have this idea in my head that they perform differently
So, I recently set up a set of Conical Fulls I rode for two months last winter (indoor park). I cleaned my bearings and tried to put them back and I found in one wheel they barely went in. I had to put a lot more effort to get the bearings in that one wheel than the others. I also seemed to spin worse (differently). Do I have a defect wheel now? I read somewhere here people having at least one bad wheel in a new set.
Expand QuoteSo, I recently set up a set of Conical Fulls I rode for two months last winter (indoor park). I cleaned my bearings and tried to put them back and I found in one wheel they barely went in. I had to put a lot more effort to get the bearings in that one wheel than the others. I also seemed to spin worse (differently). Do I have a defect wheel now? I read somewhere here people having at least one bad wheel in a new set.[close]
There were some issues with the bearing seat being a bit off in some wheels from a while back. I had a set with that issue, returned for a replacement set from the shop, no issues - just the plain blue logo graphic Conical Full 54 mm 99 duro wheels. Others also found one wheel (usually just one but sometimes two) in various sets had a defect with something similar.
The best way to check is put a bearing on an axle and put the wheel on it, seated fully, then spin the wheel. Take it off, removing the bearing, turn it over and try it again the other way. If the wheel spins a bit off center while on either bearing then it is most likely going to be something like that mentioned above.
The wheel I had with that issue just did not seat at all when trying to set up the board, so being brand new it was easy to replace.
Also to note, I have seen wheels left with something sitting on them end up deformed too, like a board box or something a little heavier than normal and a set of wheels left under stuff in the car or where ever. One set that was skated a lot for a while, worn down a mm or two, then taken off and was in a car, then went to put back on and it was oval shaped. That happened to someone I know and it was the weirdest thing, as they were not new wheels, but we worked out that is what happened - had a full board box sitting on the wheel for a while and squashed it.
I put a well used old wheel in a vice once just to see and sure enough it flattened it from a nice round shape, that bounced back almost but not completely to more a slight oval when released, not that anyone should do something like that to good wheels.
Expand QuoteTo the DLX heads reading
Please, please, please, please please Bring back
OG Classics in 55mm. Best wheel ever and it sucks that it was taken away from us that suddenly[close]
TOTALLY seconded. One of my all-time favorite wheels.
i will swear by colored spits feeling different. softer, or more forgiving.Expand Quotedoes anybody know if the colored formula fours feel different than the white ones?
call me crazy but i have this idea in my head that they perform differently[close]
Just wanna say I've tried all the soft/hybrid wheels in the last months because of a super slippery new miniramp near me. And in the end, nothing performed as well in terms of grip and slide than 57mm F4 radials I've had laying around anyway. They're 56 now, super wide riding surface and feel perfect. Surprisingly grippy on turns, but no friction against the coping.
The coldest take: F4 wheels are really good
(In terms of small/skinny wheels, the bones 97a performed the best)
Expand QuoteJust wanna say I've tried all the soft/hybrid wheels in the last months because of a super slippery new miniramp near me. And in the end, nothing performed as well in terms of grip and slide than 57mm F4 radials I've had laying around anyway. They're 56 now, super wide riding surface and feel perfect. Surprisingly grippy on turns, but no friction against the coping.
The coldest take: F4 wheels are really good
(In terms of small/skinny wheels, the bones 97a performed the best)[close]
Were the Spits 97a as well? I've been eyeing those and about to get them. Or the bones 97a.
Does anyone know of the major difference between skating the 56 and 55mm classic shapes? i remember someone mentioned before that 56mm is a bigger difference in the wheel being a 53mm radial after they wear down, one more like a radial slim vs. regular radial or something
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I ended up using an angle grinder to round out one side my conical regs. So they are like a skinnier lock in. I’m not sure if I got all the radiuses to match but I’m pretty happy with them. Lock in and I got some assist on scoop tricks. I’ll probably round the other side out when they begin to cone
does anybody know if the colored formula fours feel different than the white ones?I felt no difference performance wise
call me crazy but i have this idea in my head that they perform differently
The black radials I had were the first f4s i've flatspotted although I admittedly was doing a bunch of powerslides out of tricks. It evened out quick tho and has been rolling nice again.I felt no difference performance wiseExpand Quotedoes anybody know if the colored formula fours feel different than the white ones?
call me crazy but i have this idea in my head that they perform differently[close]
Expand QuoteDoes anyone know of the major difference between skating the 56 and 55mm classic shapes? i remember someone mentioned before that 56mm is a bigger difference in the wheel being a 53mm radial after they wear down, one more like a radial slim vs. regular radial or something[close]
There’s only a 0.3mm increase in both width and riding surface, it’s negligible. Especially once they wear down a couple mm I can’t tell the difference between the two.
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I ended up using an angle grinder to round out one side my conical regs. So they are like a skinnier lock in. I’m not sure if I got all the radiuses to match but I’m pretty happy with them. Lock in and I got some assist on scoop tricks. I’ll probably round the other side out when they begin to cone
YES much quieter and "in the pavement" feeling, honestly prefer itExpand Quotei will swear by colored spits feeling different. softer, or more forgiving.Expand Quotedoes anybody know if the colored formula fours feel different than the white ones?
call me crazy but i have this idea in my head that they perform differently[close][close]
they dont have the same bark on smooth ground as raw spits and they for sure feel softer
Since getting back into skating three years ago I've been riding Girl wheels or whatever was on sale. Picked up the Skate like a girl classics in 56mm and have been riding them for the last few weeks. I wish I got F4s years ago. Not sure how to describe it or if the quantum atoms are making a difference but the ride is just so much better in a way. It just feels more controlled while being easier to slide compared to my girl wheels. Still trying to decide if I like 56mm as the largest I skated before was 54mm.Girl/Choco wheels are some of the worst wheels I've ever ridden. The Atoms are also great, but I can tell you the improvement you're noticing is 100% the wheels.
Since getting back into skating three years ago I've been riding Girl wheels or whatever was on sale. Picked up the Skate like a girl classics in 56mm and have been riding them for the last few weeks. I wish I got F4s years ago. Not sure how to describe it or if the quantum atoms are making a difference but the ride is just so much better in a way. It just feels more controlled while being easier to slide compared to my girl wheels. Still trying to decide if I like 56mm as the largest I skated before was 54mm.
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Is it asymmetrical or is it just my eyes?
Def has a Mini-Combo vibe. Seems like an odd thing to get into when you already have Lock-Ins going, as well as hundreds of angry people on the internet wanting Radial Slims.
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Is it asymmetrical or is it just my eyes?[close]
Def has a Mini-Combo vibe. Seems like an odd thing to get into when you already have Lock-Ins going, as well as hundreds of angry people on the internet wanting Radial Slims.
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Why are wide wheels so popular right now? My experience with super wide wheels is that they are heavy and make everything harder. I know a few people who tried the radial fulls and they have said the same. It would be cool if they made a new shape that was more functional
Spitfire make a classic with side cuts. Like bones v5Just thought about that as well. Would be the best wheel ever.
A wider version of the lock-in shape.that wheel in the story doesn't really look asymetrical, iirc the inside should be flatter
Asymmetrical shape and design, featuring a conical cut profile on one side and a straight edge "lock-in" cut on the other
Why are wide wheels so popular right now? My experience with super wide wheels is that they are heavy and make everything harder.Because they last longer and are more stable.
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Spitfire make a classic with side cuts. Like bones v5
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Def has a Mini-Combo vibe. Seems like an odd thing to get into when you already have Lock-Ins going, as well as hundreds of angry people on the internet wanting Radial Slims.[close]
I do wonder in reality how many people actually want Radial Slims, or if it is more the vocal minority because DLX really do seem to listen to people and make product that people are keen on, or bring back things if enough people want something.
From what others in the know have said, there is no light at the end of this Radial Slim tunnel, but who really knows unless they have enough people pounding on their digital door asking for something and the powers that be do think it is a viable option.
The wide wheel trend is in full effect, so anything else super wide is definitely going to be lapped up and sell quickly, regardless of the exact shape, but the mini combo shaped wheels have been a good one for a while now, so it would make sense to have something similar to that in the current climate.
Expand QuoteSpitfire make a classic with side cuts. Like bones v5[close]
This would be amazing
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteSpitfire make a classic with side cuts. Like bones v5[close]
This would be amazing[close]
Or they could just bring back Radial Slims in 99a
It doesn't seem consistent with the lock-ins full description from the catalog:Quotethat wheel in the story doesn't really look asymetrical, iirc the inside should be flatterExpand QuoteA wider version of the lock-in shape.
Asymmetrical shape and design, featuring a conical cut profile on one side and a straight edge "lock-in" cut on the other[close]
Radial full are coming in 54mm. Not a new shape per se but a new diameter option for radial full
Anyway Lock-Ins Full and Radial Full 54mm are the only wheels that could be considered new in the Summer catalog
i think Radial full suck, they make your hanger so tiny
I guess it just feels like a “ramp wheel” shape to me and Spitfire has always been more of a “street wheel” brand. That said, these look much better than the regular Lock-Ins to me. Aesthetically, I never liked the Tablet half on those (even though I don’t mind the look of Tablets in general).
Did spitfire give up on the slim wheel market share?
Seems like bones never even tried to get any of the wide wheel share either.
The newest batch of conical fulls and Lock ons definitely got a slight shape change. Conicals have a bit more radius on the edges vs the sharper one that seemed more prone to chipping.
The new max Palmer wheels are a lighter color and the graphic seems to wear away slower. The wheels feel awesome and slide better than the last few sets I skated.
The newest batch of conical fulls and Lock ons definitely got a slight shape change. Conicals have a bit more radius on the edges vs the sharper one that seemed more prone to chipping.
The new max Palmer wheels are a lighter color and the graphic seems to wear away slower. The wheels feel awesome and slide better than the last few sets I skated.
recently switched back from wide F4 stuff, like conical fulls and radials, to classic shape... noticeably clears up some truck real estate, which is fun.They're almost exactly the same width though. Classics just have a tiny riding surface, but they're super wide
They're almost exactly the same width though. Classics just have a tiny riding surface, but they're super wideExpand Quoterecently switched back from wide F4 stuff, like conical fulls and radials, to classic shape... noticeably clears up some truck real estate, which is fun.[close]
Expand QuoteThey're almost exactly the same width though. Classics just have a tiny riding surface, but they're super wideExpand Quoterecently switched back from wide F4 stuff, like conical fulls and radials, to classic shape... noticeably clears up some truck real estate, which is fun.[close][close]
well, there goes that hair-brained theory of mine. still like the return to the classics.
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I just went from classics to conical regs and i feel like I keep missing 50 50s but lock in on crooks better. Can someone smarter than me tell me if it’s just me making it up or is this because of the wheels?
Classic edges=round=slip on 5050. Conical edges=flat=catch on 5050. Some would argue that classics pinch better as well, but there’s a huge conical trend and all these kids are pinching like crazy so idk if shape truly matters to that. I’ll slip out on back 5050 with classics for sure just cause it’s going over the lip.Expand QuoteI just went from classics to conical regs and i feel like I keep missing 50 50s but lock in on crooks better. Can someone smarter than me tell me if it’s just me making it up or is this because of the wheels?[close]
Classics tend to give you more hanger, but not a ton more where you should be missing 50-50’s. But, it sounds like there’s a correlation between the 2 for you personally. So, maybe?
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id love a radial full in the 52-54 range
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id love a radial full in the 52-54 range[close]
Those wheels come in 54mm
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id love a radial full inthe52-54 range
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id love a radial full inthe52-54 range[close]
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This would be amazing
the normal Radial is a great F4 wheel.
I've said this before and I'll say it again: thenormalRadial Slim is great combination of basically every F4 wheel. Not too conical, not too round, not too wide, not too slim. Flips, locks in, does basically everything. Am I tripping? If so, it's a good trip.
Expand QuoteI've said this before and I'll say it again: thenormalRadial Slim is great combination of basically every F4 wheel. Not too conical, not too round, not too wide, not too slim. Flips, locks in, does basically everything. Am I tripping? If so, it's a good trip.[close]
Fixed. :)
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI've said this before and I'll say it again: thenormalRadial Slim is great combination of basically every F4 wheel. Not too conical, not too round, not too wide, not too slim. Flips, locks in, does basically everything. Am I tripping? If so, it's a good trip.[close]
Fixed. :)[close]
Haha! Well, that's the second best F4 wheel IMO so won't start an argument here. :)
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id love a radial full inthe52-54 range[close]
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This might be my OCD coming thru, but i love how they used a circular graphic on these.
For shapes where the graphic doesnt fully wear off like radials, CF, OGs, non-circular graphics kind of bum me out once the wheels are worn in, makes me less likely to flip the wheel around for even wear
I've said this before and I'll say it again: the normal Radial is great combination of basically every F4 wheel. Not too conical, not too round, not too wide, not too slim. Flips, locks in, does basically everything. Am I tripping? If so, it's a good trip.
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This might be my OCD coming thru, but i love how they used a circular graphic on these.
For shapes where the graphic doesnt fully wear off like radials, CF, OGs, non-circular graphics kind of bum me out once the wheels are worn in, makes me less likely to flip the wheel around for even wear[close]
You are not the only one.
I have taken more than a few graphics off, not just for myself, but also when people wanted a wheel shape, but didn't like the graphic that came on the wheel, so besides turning the graphic in, I had often taken a razor blade and scratched off the graphic, just to keep them happy.
They do look good with the thin round circle close in to the bearings on Formula Four Classics and others that have that sort of graphic, but some of the bigger single graphics I can definitely see they will need to come off for some people I skate with.
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This might be my OCD coming thru, but i love how they used a circular graphic on these.
For shapes where the graphic doesnt fully wear off like radials, CF, OGs, non-circular graphics kind of bum me out once the wheels are worn in, makes me less likely to flip the wheel around for even wear[close]
You are not the only one.
I have taken more than a few graphics off, not just for myself, but also when people wanted a wheel shape, but didn't like the graphic that came on the wheel, so besides turning the graphic in, I had often taken a razor blade and scratched off the graphic, just to keep them happy.
They do look good with the thin round circle close in to the bearings on Formula Four Classics and others that have that sort of graphic, but some of the bigger single graphics I can definitely see they will need to come off for some people I skate with.[close]
Every. Word. Of. This. Post.
Fine grit sand paper works too.Expand QuoteExpand Quote
This might be my OCD coming thru, but i love how they used a circular graphic on these.
For shapes where the graphic doesnt fully wear off like radials, CF, OGs, non-circular graphics kind of bum me out once the wheels are worn in, makes me less likely to flip the wheel around for even wear[close]
You are not the only one.
I have taken more than a few graphics off, not just for myself, but also when people wanted a wheel shape, but didn't like the graphic that came on the wheel, so besides turning the graphic in, I had often taken a razor blade and scratched off the graphic, just to keep them happy.
They do look good with the thin round circle close in to the bearings on Formula Four Classics and others that have that sort of graphic, but some of the bigger single graphics I can definitely see they will need to come off for some people I skate with.[close]
Every. Word. Of. This. Post.
You just sand the graphic off or what?
whos name was it?Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quote
This might be my OCD coming thru, but i love how they used a circular graphic on these.
For shapes where the graphic doesnt fully wear off like radials, CF, OGs, non-circular graphics kind of bum me out once the wheels are worn in, makes me less likely to flip the wheel around for even wear[close]
You are not the only one.
I have taken more than a few graphics off, not just for myself, but also when people wanted a wheel shape, but didn't like the graphic that came on the wheel, so besides turning the graphic in, I had often taken a razor blade and scratched off the graphic, just to keep them happy.
They do look good with the thin round circle close in to the bearings on Formula Four Classics and others that have that sort of graphic, but some of the bigger single graphics I can definitely see they will need to come off for some people I skate with.[close]
Every. Word. Of. This. Post.[close]
Hahahha, yep.
So many bad graphics of great shapes just sit on the shelf and gather dust, or go on sale.
The funniest situation was when someone came in asking for a certain wheel, was not at all a fan of the dude whose name was on them and refused to get them. I made an excuse to do something and took them out the back, took almost all the graphic off, just leaving a very small logo in the corner, brought them back out and he couldn't get enough of them and wanted me to track down any more sets of them too...
Just wow.
Got this email the other day. Nice little Spitfire x Palace run of F4 Conical Fulls with a nice take on the Classic graphic.
Thumbnails appear to be:
Blue / 51mm
Red / 52mm
Yellow / 53mm
Green / 54mm
(https://i.ibb.co/JKHp20F/733-EDA3-F-B5-C8-4558-AA1-B-45-DA1-A057637.jpg) (https://ibb.co/JKHp20F)
whos name was it?Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quote
This might be my OCD coming thru, but i love how they used a circular graphic on these.
For shapes where the graphic doesnt fully wear off like radials, CF, OGs, non-circular graphics kind of bum me out once the wheels are worn in, makes me less likely to flip the wheel around for even wear[close]
You are not the only one.
I have taken more than a few graphics off, not just for myself, but also when people wanted a wheel shape, but didn't like the graphic that came on the wheel, so besides turning the graphic in, I had often taken a razor blade and scratched off the graphic, just to keep them happy.
They do look good with the thin round circle close in to the bearings on Formula Four Classics and others that have that sort of graphic, but some of the bigger single graphics I can definitely see they will need to come off for some people I skate with.[close]
Every. Word. Of. This. Post.[close]
Hahahha, yep.
So many bad graphics of great shapes just sit on the shelf and gather dust, or go on sale.
The funniest situation was when someone came in asking for a certain wheel, was not at all a fan of the dude whose name was on them and refused to get them. I made an excuse to do something and took them out the back, took almost all the graphic off, just leaving a very small logo in the corner, brought them back out and he couldn't get enough of them and wanted me to track down any more sets of them too...
Just wow.[close]
i just gotta know at this point :o
was talking to a friend the other day who somehow wasn't aware of F4's (i guess he has just been a bones guy forever or something idk.)
I told him that you couldn't pay me to ride something other than F4's, they're just that good.
Could someone pay YOU to ride something other than f4's?
obviously millions of dollars or something like that would sway most anyone. But within reason, whatever check wheel companies are cutting dudes. Would it change your mind?
There are 52mm radials out there.
https://orchardshop.com/collections/wheels/products/spitfire-wheels-f4-formula-four-radial-99-52mm
Expand QuoteThere are 52mm radials out there.
https://orchardshop.com/collections/wheels/products/spitfire-wheels-f4-formula-four-radial-99-52mm[close]
\that would be sick
harder to find in maple syrup land, i dont need to pay that shipping
53 could probably work i just dont want to spend like a year working them in
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteThere are 52mm radials out there.
https://orchardshop.com/collections/wheels/products/spitfire-wheels-f4-formula-four-radial-99-52mm[close]
\that would be sick
harder to find in maple syrup land, i dont need to pay that shipping
53 could probably work i just dont want to spend like a year working them in[close]
I'm sure if you talked to your local shop owner they would/could order you some from their distributor.
Maybe just see if they'll do it the next time they make a big order to save them on shipping.
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This might be my OCD coming thru, but i love how they used a circular graphic on these.
For shapes where the graphic doesnt fully wear off like radials, CF, OGs, non-circular graphics kind of bum me out once the wheels are worn in, makes me less likely to flip the wheel around for even wear[close]
You are not the only one.
I have taken more than a few graphics off, not just for myself, but also when people wanted a wheel shape, but didn't like the graphic that came on the wheel, so besides turning the graphic in, I had often taken a razor blade and scratched off the graphic, just to keep them happy.
They do look good with the thin round circle close in to the bearings on Formula Four Classics and others that have that sort of graphic, but some of the bigger single graphics I can definitely see they will need to come off for some people I skate with.[close]
Every. Word. Of. This. Post.[close]
Hahahha, yep.
So many bad graphics of great shapes just sit on the shelf and gather dust, or go on sale.
The funniest situation was when someone came in asking for a certain wheel, was not at all a fan of the dude whose name was on them and refused to get them. I made an excuse to do something and took them out the back, took almost all the graphic off, just leaving a very small logo in the corner, brought them back out and he couldn't get enough of them and wanted me to track down any more sets of them too...
Just wow.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quote
This might be my OCD coming thru, but i love how they used a circular graphic on these.
For shapes where the graphic doesnt fully wear off like radials, CF, OGs, non-circular graphics kind of bum me out once the wheels are worn in, makes me less likely to flip the wheel around for even wear[close]
You are not the only one.
I have taken more than a few graphics off, not just for myself, but also when people wanted a wheel shape, but didn't like the graphic that came on the wheel, so besides turning the graphic in, I had often taken a razor blade and scratched off the graphic, just to keep them happy.
They do look good with the thin round circle close in to the bearings on Formula Four Classics and others that have that sort of graphic, but some of the bigger single graphics I can definitely see they will need to come off for some people I skate with.[close]
Every. Word. Of. This. Post.[close]
Hahahha, yep.
So many bad graphics of great shapes just sit on the shelf and gather dust, or go on sale.
The funniest situation was when someone came in asking for a certain wheel, was not at all a fan of the dude whose name was on them and refused to get them. I made an excuse to do something and took them out the back, took almost all the graphic off, just leaving a very small logo in the corner, brought them back out and he couldn't get enough of them and wanted me to track down any more sets of them too...
Just wow.[close]
This is my current internal struggle, they needed to be rotated so bad, but i hate how they look. At least theyre only 2 colors..
On the flip side, I really love how classics put the details inside the tinnnny little ridge that doesnt get worn. Its like their dog tags, even when theyre dead you can what they were.
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This might be my OCD coming thru, but i love how they used a circular graphic on these.
For shapes where the graphic doesnt fully wear off like radials, CF, OGs, non-circular graphics kind of bum me out once the wheels are worn in, makes me less likely to flip the wheel around for even wear[close]
You are not the only one.
I have taken more than a few graphics off, not just for myself, but also when people wanted a wheel shape, but didn't like the graphic that came on the wheel, so besides turning the graphic in, I had often taken a razor blade and scratched off the graphic, just to keep them happy.
They do look good with the thin round circle close in to the bearings on Formula Four Classics and others that have that sort of graphic, but some of the bigger single graphics I can definitely see they will need to come off for some people I skate with.[close]
Every. Word. Of. This. Post.[close]
Hahahha, yep.
So many bad graphics of great shapes just sit on the shelf and gather dust, or go on sale.
The funniest situation was when someone came in asking for a certain wheel, was not at all a fan of the dude whose name was on them and refused to get them. I made an excuse to do something and took them out the back, took almost all the graphic off, just leaving a very small logo in the corner, brought them back out and he couldn't get enough of them and wanted me to track down any more sets of them too...
Just wow.[close]
This is my current internal struggle, they needed to be rotated so bad, but i hate how they look. At least theyre only 2 colors..
(https://i.imgur.com/5ZH1ExG.jpg?1)
I finally bit the bullet and ordered some f4 lock ins. Never skated spit but a local-ish shop had them for $35. Fuck it, let’s seeWhat have you ridden in the past?
What have you ridden in the past?Expand QuoteI finally bit the bullet and ordered some f4 lock ins. Never skated spit but a local-ish shop had them for $35. Fuck it, let’s see[close]
and did what duro lock ins did you get?
Anyone know of any US shops with the Kader Radial Fulls in 59mm or is it too late to snag a set?we sold out. thanks for the love.
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Found some as of now:
https://www.35thave.com/shop/Skate/Wheels/Spitfire/p/Spitfire-Formula-Four-Kader-Puffs-Radial-Full-99a-x70104029.htm
we sold out. thanks for the love.Expand QuoteAnyone know of any US shops with the Kader Radial Fulls in 59mm or is it too late to snag a set?
[Edit]
Found some as of now:
https://www.35thave.com/shop/Skate/Wheels/Spitfire/p/Spitfire-Formula-Four-Kader-Puffs-Radial-Full-99a-x70104029.htm[close]
Honestly I feel regular Conicals are fucking great, and Id dare to say they are the best F4 option?! They have a wide(r) contact patch but are still only a bit wider than a Classic (or atleast feels this way) and you get all the benefits of a square shaped wheel while still looking like a normal wheel (meaning not a huge wide one like CFs)Expand QuoteI've said this before and I'll say it again: thenormalRadial Slim is great combination of basically every F4 wheel. Not too conical, not too round, not too wide, not too slim. Flips, locks in, does basically everything. Am I tripping? If so, it's a good trip.[close]
Fixed. :)
We are re stocking the 59's later this week.Expand Quotewe sold out. thanks for the love.Expand QuoteAnyone know of any US shops with the Kader Radial Fulls in 59mm or is it too late to snag a set?
[Edit]
Found some as of now:
https://www.35thave.com/shop/Skate/Wheels/Spitfire/p/Spitfire-Formula-Four-Kader-Puffs-Radial-Full-99a-x70104029.htm[close][close]
I could definitely see the 59 mm selling quickly, from showing 3 in stock earlier.
At least there are still half a dozen listed for the 54 mm and 56 mm sizes too, for anyone wanting a not so big but still quite wide wheel.
Honestly I feel regular Conicals are fucking great, and Id dare to say they are the best F4 option?! They have a wide(r) contact patch but are still only a bit wider than a Classic (or atleast feels this way) and you get all the benefits of a square shaped wheel while still looking like a normal wheel (meaning not a huge wide one like CFs)Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI've said this before and I'll say it again: thenormalRadial Slim is great combination of basically every F4 wheel. Not too conical, not too round, not too wide, not too slim. Flips, locks in, does basically everything. Am I tripping? If so, it's a good trip.[close]
Fixed. :)[close]
Honestly I feel regular Conicals are fucking great, and Id dare to say they are the best F4 option?! They have a wide(r) contact patch but are still only a bit wider than a Classic (or atleast feels this way) and you get all the benefits of a square shaped wheel while still looking like a normal wheel (meaning not a huge wide one like CFs)Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI've said this before and I'll say it again: thenormalRadial Slim is great combination of basically every F4 wheel. Not too conical, not too round, not too wide, not too slim. Flips, locks in, does basically everything. Am I tripping? If so, it's a good trip.[close]
Fixed. :)[close]
How do you guys feel about OGs/Conicals that have originally been 55-56mm but have been worn down to c. 53mm? Do they feel "too wide" for you or do you just not give a f---? My old 55 OGs are now around 52-53 and they seem kinda clunky. Maybe I'm just projecting and should just skate them and shut up, but still. Y'know. Gear madness / OCD.
Nothing much to add, and I know it's been said before, but spitfire really nailed it with F4's.
I'm an "older" guy and have recently gotten back into it with my kids after a long break. So far I've tried Dragons and X97's on my own setup, and Bones 99's, 103a STF's and 104 SPF's on buddies setups.
Decided to buy into the hype and picked up 56mm Conical Full's in 99a and bam, done, love them. I dunno what it is but they just feel and sound like what a skateboard is supposed to for me. Dragons and X97's feel a bit rubbery, STF's and SPF's feel like plastic, F4's just feel perfect.
That's it, love F4's, carry on.
Expand QuoteNothing much to add, and I know it's been said before, but spitfire really nailed it with F4's.
I'm an "older" guy and have recently gotten back into it with my kids after a long break. So far I've tried Dragons and X97's on my own setup, and Bones 99's, 103a STF's and 104 SPF's on buddies setups.
Decided to buy into the hype and picked up 56mm Conical Full's in 99a and bam, done, love them. I dunno what it is but they just feel and sound like what a skateboard is supposed to for me. Dragons and X97's feel a bit rubbery, STF's and SPF's feel like plastic, F4's just feel perfect.
That's it, love F4's, carry on.[close]
Dude, I just got back from taking my new 57mm lock-ins for a test drive and was gonna hop on here and post ‘these are perfect, these sound and feel exactly how a skateboard should feel’. Also older dude coming from a hiatus and spurned on by my kids interest in my old pastime. Fuckin weird koinkidink
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteNothing much to add, and I know it's been said before, but spitfire really nailed it with F4's.
I'm an "older" guy and have recently gotten back into it with my kids after a long break. So far I've tried Dragons and X97's on my own setup, and Bones 99's, 103a STF's and 104 SPF's on buddies setups.
Decided to buy into the hype and picked up 56mm Conical Full's in 99a and bam, done, love them. I dunno what it is but they just feel and sound like what a skateboard is supposed to for me. Dragons and X97's feel a bit rubbery, STF's and SPF's feel like plastic, F4's just feel perfect.
That's it, love F4's, carry on.[close]
Dude, I just got back from taking my new 57mm lock-ins for a test drive and was gonna hop on here and post ‘these are perfect, these sound and feel exactly how a skateboard should feel’. Also older dude coming from a hiatus and spurned on by my kids interest in my old pastime. Fuckin weird koinkidink[close]
Ha! Right on. Yep, first warmup lap around the skatepark and it's like, yeah, love these...
The sound and feel thing cannot be overstated, first push always just feels awesome.
Went with Dragons and X97's first after drinking the YouTube old guy Kool aid, but honestly I'm happier with one setup with F4's for park and normal skating, and another setup with 78a OJ's for cruising.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteNothing much to add, and I know it's been said before, but spitfire really nailed it with F4's.
I'm an "older" guy and have recently gotten back into it with my kids after a long break. So far I've tried Dragons and X97's on my own setup, and Bones 99's, 103a STF's and 104 SPF's on buddies setups.
Decided to buy into the hype and picked up 56mm Conical Full's in 99a and bam, done, love them. I dunno what it is but they just feel and sound like what a skateboard is supposed to for me. Dragons and X97's feel a bit rubbery, STF's and SPF's feel like plastic, F4's just feel perfect.
That's it, love F4's, carry on.[close]
Dude, I just got back from taking my new 57mm lock-ins for a test drive and was gonna hop on here and post ‘these are perfect, these sound and feel exactly how a skateboard should feel’. Also older dude coming from a hiatus and spurned on by my kids interest in my old pastime. Fuckin weird koinkidink[close]
Ha! Right on. Yep, first warmup lap around the skatepark and it's like, yeah, love these...
The sound and feel thing cannot be overstated, first push always just feels awesome.
Went with Dragons and X97's first after drinking the YouTube old guy Kool aid, but honestly I'm happier with one setup with F4's for park and normal skating, and another setup with 78a OJ's for cruising.[close]
I was going to try Dragons and X97s (same thing, YouTube) but went with my gut. I’ve tried a few different things under the Powell umbrella and well, hated them. The sole exception being OJs because of course we have to have more in common.
I also love Elder...
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I also love Elder...[close]
Lmao get the fuck outta here. Lore is probably my favorite record of that whole decade. Modeled my whole stoner guitar tone on it. Not to mention my handle.
I don't think I could ever stray from F4s at this point. Some wheels might be faster on certain terrains or slide better in certain situations and even more durable but no other wheel has the entire package along with that unmistakeable 'feel' on nearly all terrain.
Expand QuoteI don't think I could ever stray from F4s at this point. Some wheels might be faster on certain terrains or slide better in certain situations and even more durable but no other wheel has the entire package along with that unmistakeable 'feel' on nearly all terrain.[close]
This.
The only wheel that has come close from other brands is the OJ Hardline 99, which I've liked in indoor parks that have a lot of plywood transition. They have a bit more grip than the F4 on plywood but are fast. However, the sound is not there. :D
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI don't think I could ever stray from F4s at this point. Some wheels might be faster on certain terrains or slide better in certain situations and even more durable but no other wheel has the entire package along with that unmistakeable 'feel' on nearly all terrain.[close]
This.
The only wheel that has come close from other brands is the OJ Hardline 99, which I've liked in indoor parks that have a lot of plywood transition. They have a bit more grip than the F4 on plywood but are fast. However, the sound is not there. :D[close]
Good to know, my indoor is dusty AF usually. Just about busted my nose slipping out on the skatelite mini during the winter. I was running X97's and the dust kept building up on them. My buddy had Dragons and dust didn't seem to stick to them?
I don’t know what terrain keyframes should be good, too hard for bad finnish asphalt and too slow for smooth parks/indoors…Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI don't think I could ever stray from F4s at this point. Some wheels might be faster on certain terrains or slide better in certain situations and even more durable but no other wheel has the entire package along with that unmistakeable 'feel' on nearly all terrain.[close]
This.
The only wheel that has come close from other brands is the OJ Hardline 99, which I've liked in indoor parks that have a lot of plywood transition. They have a bit more grip than the F4 on plywood but are fast. However, the sound is not there. :D[close]
Good to know, my indoor is dusty AF usually. Just about busted my nose slipping out on the skatelite mini during the winter. I was running X97's and the dust kept building up on them. My buddy had Dragons and dust didn't seem to stick to them?[close]
Softer wheels are def grippier in dusty indoors, but they tend to be slow. Haven't tried the Dragons, though. Buddy of mine had OJ Keyframes (87a or so) there in the winter and I tried them once – worst wheels ever for park, felt like flat tires on train tracks.
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I also love Elder...[close]
Lmao get the fuck outta here. Lore is probably my favorite record of that whole decade. Modeled my whole stoner guitar tone on it. Not to mention my handle.[close]
Only discovered them in the past five years or so, but yeah, Lore is a banger. My no 1 get fired up on the way to the trail when I go DH mtn biking album.
I don't think I could ever stray from F4s at this point. Some wheels might be faster on certain terrains or slide better in certain situations and even more durable but no other wheel has the entire package along with that unmistakeable 'feel' on nearly all terrain.
I'd say they are just as good. It just depends if you are feeling a skinnier wheel or a wider one. My top shapes are for sure Conicals and OG classics.Expand QuoteHonestly I feel regular Conicals are fucking great, and Id dare to say they are the best F4 option?! They have a wide(r) contact patch but are still only a bit wider than a Classic (or atleast feels this way) and you get all the benefits of a square shaped wheel while still looking like a normal wheel (meaning not a huge wide one like CFs)Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI've said this before and I'll say it again: thenormalRadial Slim is great combination of basically every F4 wheel. Not too conical, not too round, not too wide, not too slim. Flips, locks in, does basically everything. Am I tripping? If so, it's a good trip.[close]
Fixed. :)[close][close]
Do you like them better than OGs? Aside from availability
I used to feel the same about F4's but they're way too slippery. Even the 97a's sometimes surprise me with a close call of almost slipping out. Forget about even trying them indoors. Until they make offerings in 92a-95a I'll keep skating Dogtown's. If harder wheels are your thing, then yeah I agree they are the premium choice if you have the money. Crazy reading how expensive they are in some countries outside the USA.
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I also love Elder...[close]
Lmao get the fuck outta here. Lore is probably my favorite record of that whole decade. Modeled my whole stoner guitar tone on it. Not to mention my handle.[close]
Only discovered them in the past five years or so, but yeah, Lore is a banger. My no 1 get fired up on the way to the trail when I go DH mtn biking album.[close]
I am seeing Elder tonight, I think it’s silly that some people DON’T put F4’s on their board, and I’ve been downhill mountain biking like once.
But I think Reflections Of A Floating World is Elder’s undisputed masterpiece.
Expand QuoteI used to feel the same about F4's but they're way too slippery. Even the 97a's sometimes surprise me with a close call of almost slipping out. Forget about even trying them indoors. Until they make offerings in 92a-95a I'll keep skating Dogtown's. If harder wheels are your thing, then yeah I agree they are the premium choice if you have the money. Crazy reading how expensive they are in some countries outside the USA.[close]
Almost everything for me is ok on F4 99s, but yeah some of the slippery surface ramps / indoor parks or even new parks are way better on softer / more grippy wheels. I have the 97s on for a little more grip on a couple of boards for one new park near me I go to, but there are definitely places I would still find them not quite so safe and I ride 90 to 92 duro wheels on the skatelite ramps at the indoor park and don't feel like I am going to be rolling the dice every run.
Others I know who have cat like reflexes and way better balance ride 99s or 101s on everything, so sure some people can still deal with it and not change them out, but for most people, either older or just not quite so light on their feet, the slip out factor is very real and altogether too many slams happen on the skatelite surfaces or slippery new parks round here that I have seen and heard.
Re cost of goods - Funny thing about places like here in Australia, everything has gone up considerably, so although Spitfires are going up (AU $80 - $90), those new OJ wheels still top out as the most expensive wheels I have ever seen by a mile (AU $120), so Spitfires are still pretty much medium / regular price, definitely not the highest but that is what we are used to as well, for pro quality products.
Expand QuoteI used to feel the same about F4's but they're way too slippery. Even the 97a's sometimes surprise me with a close call of almost slipping out. Forget about even trying them indoors. Until they make offerings in 92a-95a I'll keep skating Dogtown's. If harder wheels are your thing, then yeah I agree they are the premium choice if you have the money. Crazy reading how expensive they are in some countries outside the USA.[close]
Almost everything for me is ok on F4 99s, but yeah some of the slippery surface ramps / indoor parks or even new parks are way better on softer / more grippy wheels. I have the 97s on for a little more grip on a couple of boards for one new park near me I go to, but there are definitely places I would still find them not quite so safe and I ride 90 to 92 duro wheels on the skatelite ramps at the indoor park and don't feel like I am going to be rolling the dice every run.
Others I know who have cat like reflexes and way better balance ride 99s or 101s on everything, so sure some people can still deal with it and not change them out, but for most people, either older or just not quite so light on their feet, the slip out factor is very real and altogether too many slams happen on the skatelite surfaces or slippery new parks round here that I have seen and heard.
Re cost of goods - Funny thing about places like here in Australia, everything has gone up considerably, so although Spitfires are going up (AU $80 - $90), those new OJ wheels still top out as the most expensive wheels I have ever seen by a mile (AU $120), so Spitfires are still pretty much medium / regular price, definitely not the highest but that is what we are used to as well, for pro quality products.
i need those kader 59s so bad.I'm not sure, but 35th Ave has two sets of the 59s in stock, at the moment.
are they only in those shops on the ig or are they going out everywhere? i dont care about the cool tray really. i want it but the wheels are a necessity in my life
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI used to feel the same about F4's but they're way too slippery. Even the 97a's sometimes surprise me with a close call of almost slipping out. Forget about even trying them indoors. Until they make offerings in 92a-95a I'll keep skating Dogtown's. If harder wheels are your thing, then yeah I agree they are the premium choice if you have the money. Crazy reading how expensive they are in some countries outside the USA.[close]
Almost everything for me is ok on F4 99s, but yeah some of the slippery surface ramps / indoor parks or even new parks are way better on softer / more grippy wheels. I have the 97s on for a little more grip on a couple of boards for one new park near me I go to, but there are definitely places I would still find them not quite so safe and I ride 90 to 92 duro wheels on the skatelite ramps at the indoor park and don't feel like I am going to be rolling the dice every run.
Others I know who have cat like reflexes and way better balance ride 99s or 101s on everything, so sure some people can still deal with it and not change them out, but for most people, either older or just not quite so light on their feet, the slip out factor is very real and altogether too many slams happen on the skatelite surfaces or slippery new parks round here that I have seen and heard.
Re cost of goods - Funny thing about places like here in Australia, everything has gone up considerably, so although Spitfires are going up (AU $80 - $90), those new OJ wheels still top out as the most expensive wheels I have ever seen by a mile (AU $120), so Spitfires are still pretty much medium / regular price, definitely not the highest but that is what we are used to as well, for pro quality products.[close]
Spit used to make those "Soft D's" which, IMHO, were great from some those extra slippery places. Wish they still made them.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI used to feel the same about F4's but they're way too slippery. Even the 97a's sometimes surprise me with a close call of almost slipping out. Forget about even trying them indoors. Until they make offerings in 92a-95a I'll keep skating Dogtown's. If harder wheels are your thing, then yeah I agree they are the premium choice if you have the money. Crazy reading how expensive they are in some countries outside the USA.[close]
I remember trying a set of the 95s for some more crusty spots...and was immediately like, "Oh, hell no." So slow. Felt like trying to skate through wet sand.
Almost everything for me is ok on F4 99s, but yeah some of the slippery surface ramps / indoor parks or even new parks are way better on softer / more grippy wheels. I have the 97s on for a little more grip on a couple of boards for one new park near me I go to, but there are definitely places I would still find them not quite so safe and I ride 90 to 92 duro wheels on the skatelite ramps at the indoor park and don't feel like I am going to be rolling the dice every run.
Others I know who have cat like reflexes and way better balance ride 99s or 101s on everything, so sure some people can still deal with it and not change them out, but for most people, either older or just not quite so light on their feet, the slip out factor is very real and altogether too many slams happen on the skatelite surfaces or slippery new parks round here that I have seen and heard.
Re cost of goods - Funny thing about places like here in Australia, everything has gone up considerably, so although Spitfires are going up (AU $80 - $90), those new OJ wheels still top out as the most expensive wheels I have ever seen by a mile (AU $120), so Spitfires are still pretty much medium / regular price, definitely not the highest but that is what we are used to as well, for pro quality products.[close]
Spit used to make those "Soft D's" which, IMHO, were great from some those extra slippery places. Wish they still made them.[close]
That is what I use for the slippery surfaces, usually the 92 duro 56 mm size, but I have them in a few sizes in both 92 and 95 as well as some 97s in 56 and 57 mm from "back in the day" type of stock.
They definitely work well for me, but others always say my board feels so slow with them, which is true as they didn't hold speed like the harder wheels did, as well as being more prone to lumps or flatspots.
The 92 duro 59 mm wheels I put on so long ago now are still going strong and I think the bigger sizes last a lot better and keep speed more so than the smaller ones too.
I remember trying a set of the 95s for some more crusty spots...and was immediately like, "Oh, hell no." So slow. Felt like trying to skate through wet sand.
Alright, I need ya'll to tell me if this should bother me or if I should pull my head out of my ass.
Was running mini logo and cheap mosiac bearings before which are both pretty noisy and don't roll the best outta the box. Splashed out on some Swiss 6's today and because they're so damn quiet I'm noticing that two out of four of my F4 Conical Full's have the bearings seated poorly. Now I'm extremely mechanically inclined, been working on cars, motorcycles, bikes etc for years. The bearings are absolutely seated all the way in, I made sure the wheels were clean before swapping bearings, and I even double checked they were seated by using a correctly sized socket and bench vise to ensure the outer race was seated. The two wheels still spin almost as well, but they make a bit of a mild flatspot type sound when you spin them fast, and when you spin them pinched between your fingers you can feel a slight wobble.
I guess what worries me is that it'll cook my spendy new bearings faster...
So Slap, what do I do? Say fuck it it's a skateboard, or reach out to DLX?
Expand QuoteAlright, I need ya'll to tell me if this should bother me or if I should pull my head out of my ass.
Was running mini logo and cheap mosiac bearings before which are both pretty noisy and don't roll the best outta the box. Splashed out on some Swiss 6's today and because they're so damn quiet I'm noticing that two out of four of my F4 Conical Full's have the bearings seated poorly. Now I'm extremely mechanically inclined, been working on cars, motorcycles, bikes etc for years. The bearings are absolutely seated all the way in, I made sure the wheels were clean before swapping bearings, and I even double checked they were seated by using a correctly sized socket and bench vise to ensure the outer race was seated. The two wheels still spin almost as well, but they make a bit of a mild flatspot type sound when you spin them fast, and when you spin them pinched between your fingers you can feel a slight wobble.
I guess what worries me is that it'll cook my spendy new bearings faster...
So Slap, what do I do? Say fuck it it's a skateboard, or reach out to DLX?[close]
Definitely talk to the shop you got them from or DLX directly.
This is a known issue and should not be happening.
Any wheels that have that sort of issue are instant return for refund or exchange when I have seen them, obviously more inclined to exchange, because I would rather skate Formula Four than anything else anyway.
Which wheel graphic and size Conical Full is it?
Older wheels will tend to brown or yellow. That's the natural urethan color coming through.
Expand QuoteOlder wheels will tend to brown or yellow. That's the natural urethan color coming through.[close]
Agreed, but even when they were new the OGs were more brown than the new conicals. I’ve also had the OGs stored in a box in a closet, so color change should be minimal. Take a look at pictures of F4s online and they also look more brown than my conicals
Really digging 101 F4s at the moment. Especially with wheels under 54mm. The key is a wider profile. Conical Full 101 has been money for me at the local curb spot. Asphalt but pretty smooth. I know the trend is toward slightly softer wheels but I think the 101s are a little under rated. Also if you dabble with Lil Smokies, I'd get the 101s. That's all.
Well. This is interesting, on a few different levels.
https://www.spitfirewheels.com/wheel-shapes/
Also, it's only by 1/10th of a mm, but they are now listing different size/tech specs on some of these than before.
Expand QuoteWell. This is interesting, on a few different levels.
https://www.spitfirewheels.com/wheel-shapes/
Also, it's only by 1/10th of a mm, but they are now listing different size/tech specs on some of these than before.[close]
Those charts were due to be updated for a while now. I would be happy if they stick with this lineup! 54-56 full shapes in 97a and I'm good. I still hope they get a dragon/xformula competitor but they honestly probably don't have to.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteWell. This is interesting, on a few different levels.
https://www.spitfirewheels.com/wheel-shapes/
Also, it's only by 1/10th of a mm, but they are now listing different size/tech specs on some of these than before.[close]
Those charts were due to be updated for a while now. I would be happy if they stick with this lineup! 54-56 full shapes in 97a and I'm good. I still hope they get a dragon/xformula competitor but they honestly probably don't have to.[close]
That might not be happening. Looks like Spitfire do have a new wheel coming in Fall but its not a Dragon slayer... Looks more like a full on big cruiser wheel.
Are worn in classics essentially the same shape as a regular radial? Ex: 54mm classic worn down to 52mm vs brand new 52mm radials.
Expand QuoteAre worn in classics essentially the same shape as a regular radial? Ex: 54mm classic worn down to 52mm vs brand new 52mm radials.[close]
52 radial will be slightly thinner overall but basically the same yeah. It's why radials are my favorite wheel, it's basically a pre worn in classic
For comparison natural is a slightly worn 53 mm radial and orange is more worn 53 mm classic (probably like 50/51 now). Radial is wider because both were 53 mm to start.
(https://i.ibb.co/qMfDg99/PXL-20230609-171004814.jpg) (https://ibb.co/qMfDg99)
Well. This is interesting, on a few different levels.
https://www.spitfirewheels.com/wheel-shapes/
Also, it's only by 1/10th of a mm, but they are now listing different size/tech specs on some of these than before.
Expand QuoteWell. This is interesting, on a few different levels.
https://www.spitfirewheels.com/wheel-shapes/
Also, it's only by 1/10th of a mm, but they are now listing different size/tech specs on some of these than before.[close]
I have been busy so hadn't had time to go over it and just had a quick look.
Interesting they don't put Classic Full on the main chart, but as they are not current wheels, just like Radial Slim or others, I can see they are not going to be listed there.
At least that range keeps (almost) everyone happy for now anyway.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteWell. This is interesting, on a few different levels.
https://www.spitfirewheels.com/wheel-shapes/
Also, it's only by 1/10th of a mm, but they are now listing different size/tech specs on some of these than before.[close]
I have been busy so hadn't had time to go over it and just had a quick look.
Interesting they don't put Classic Full on the main chart, but as they are not current wheels, just like Radial Slim or others, I can see they are not going to be listed there.
At least that range keeps (almost) everyone happy for now anyway.[close]
This giant wheel / tiny wheelbase trends needs to end. They have several tank-sized wheels now. IMHO, profile wise, there is little difference between OG Classics, Tablets, and Conicals, and not enough of difference to justify three versions of the "same" wheel. They really, really, really should add Radial Slims or Classic Fulls (esp considering the "full" trend) to their regular line-up....but I am just yelling at clouds here.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteWell. This is interesting, on a few different levels.
https://www.spitfirewheels.com/wheel-shapes/
Also, it's only by 1/10th of a mm, but they are now listing different size/tech specs on some of these than before.[close]
I have been busy so hadn't had time to go over it and just had a quick look.
Interesting they don't put Classic Full on the main chart, but as they are not current wheels, just like Radial Slim or others, I can see they are not going to be listed there.
At least that range keeps (almost) everyone happy for now anyway.[close]
This giant wheel / tiny wheelbase trends needs to end. They have several tank-sized wheels now. IMHO, profile wise, there is little difference between OG Classics, Tablets, and Conicals, and not enough of difference to justify three versions of the "same" wheel. They really, really, really should add Radial Slims or Classic Fulls (esp considering the "full" trend) to their regular line-up....but I am just yelling at clouds here.
Well. This is interesting, on a few different levels.
https://www.spitfirewheels.com/wheel-shapes/
Also, it's only by 1/10th of a mm, but they are now listing different size/tech specs on some of these than before.
Expand QuoteWell. This is interesting, on a few different levels.
https://www.spitfirewheels.com/wheel-shapes/
Also, it's only by 1/10th of a mm, but they are now listing different size/tech specs on some of these than before.[close]
A Lock-In...full...
RIP Radial slims, you will be missed...
As someone who prefers fat wide wheels, it doesn't get any better than radial fulls. No diminished performance due to both sides being rounded edges. I love my dogtowns for their softer durometer but that 80s type shape with the outside being a sharp straight cut makes my fs slappies harder to get into. 92a-95a in a radial full would be the holy grail wheel for me.What kind of skating are you doing mainly?
Bones bearings are falling out of my formula fours. Anyone had this experience? Like the inner rins is not tight anymore and so the bearings just fall out. Did i do something wrong? They are around 1 years old.
Bones bearings are falling out of my formula fours. Anyone had this experience? Like the inner rins is not tight anymore and so the bearings just fall out. Did i do something wrong? They are around 1 years old.
What kind of skating are you doing mainly?Expand QuoteAs someone who prefers fat wide wheels, it doesn't get any better than radial fulls. No diminished performance due to both sides being rounded edges. I love my dogtowns for their softer durometer but that 80s type shape with the outside being a sharp straight cut makes my fs slappies harder to get into. 92a-95a in a radial full would be the holy grail wheel for me.[close]
And also anyone else riding super fat wheels. What are you doing with these? I totally get big wheels in the sense of large diameter, but why the giant width? Rip to all the truck space covered by fullies
Expand QuoteWhat kind of skating are you doing mainly?Expand QuoteAs someone who prefers fat wide wheels, it doesn't get any better than radial fulls. No diminished performance due to both sides being rounded edges. I love my dogtowns for their softer durometer but that 80s type shape with the outside being a sharp straight cut makes my fs slappies harder to get into. 92a-95a in a radial full would be the holy grail wheel for me.[close]
And also anyone else riding super fat wheels. What are you doing with these? I totally get big wheels in the sense of large diameter, but why the giant width? Rip to all the truck space covered by fullies[close]
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Expand QuoteExpand QuoteWhat kind of skating are you doing mainly?Expand QuoteAs someone who prefers fat wide wheels, it doesn't get any better than radial fulls. No diminished performance due to both sides being rounded edges. I love my dogtowns for their softer durometer but that 80s type shape with the outside being a sharp straight cut makes my fs slappies harder to get into. 92a-95a in a radial full would be the holy grail wheel for me.[close]
And also anyone else riding super fat wheels. What are you doing with these? I totally get big wheels in the sense of large diameter, but why the giant width? Rip to all the truck space covered by fullies[close]
This[close]
I'll skate any terrain: Pools, ramp, ditches, street, park, whatever; have ridden STF V3s (thinnest you can get) to Radial Fulls and so many in between and quite honestly, I don't find any performance benefits when it comes to width, only downsides.
Can someone provide some science (and not 'cuz they feel good) to help up plebs understand why sacrificing hanger room for grinds and increasing board weight (which does apply to speed given equal friction) for a wider/chunky wheel is better, as it's been argued (and proven) that width of an object is not impacting it's ability to grip or slide.
Skateboards don't go fast enough (on Mega, maybe) for things like drag or rolling (width) resistance to come into play.
These aren't fucking drag racing tires pushed by 1000hp
Expand QuoteBones bearings are falling out of my formula fours. Anyone had this experience? Like the inner rins is not tight anymore and so the bearings just fall out. Did i do something wrong? They are around 1 years old.[close]
Something doesn't add up with this one, F4's are tight AF to get bearings in and out of compared to other wheels.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteBones bearings are falling out of my formula fours. Anyone had this experience? Like the inner rins is not tight anymore and so the bearings just fall out. Did i do something wrong? They are around 1 years old.[close]
Something doesn't add up with this one, F4's are tight AF to get bearings in and out of compared to other wheels.[close]
f4's moved to Mexico recently so there right have been a couple hiccups right out of the gate..
Expand QuoteWhat kind of skating are you doing mainly?Expand QuoteAs someone who prefers fat wide wheels, it doesn't get any better than radial fulls. No diminished performance due to both sides being rounded edges. I love my dogtowns for their softer durometer but that 80s type shape with the outside being a sharp straight cut makes my fs slappies harder to get into. 92a-95a in a radial full would be the holy grail wheel for me.[close]
And also anyone else riding super fat wheels. What are you doing with these? I totally get big wheels in the sense of large diameter, but why the giant width? Rip to all the truck space covered by fullies[close]
This
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteWhat kind of skating are you doing mainly?Expand QuoteAs someone who prefers fat wide wheels, it doesn't get any better than radial fulls. No diminished performance due to both sides being rounded edges. I love my dogtowns for their softer durometer but that 80s type shape with the outside being a sharp straight cut makes my fs slappies harder to get into. 92a-95a in a radial full would be the holy grail wheel for me.[close]
And also anyone else riding super fat wheels. What are you doing with these? I totally get big wheels in the sense of large diameter, but why the giant width? Rip to all the truck space covered by fullies[close]
This[close]
Less hanger space is actually one big reason why I use Radial Fulls on wider trucks. As much as I like wide boards, sometimes I feel like 159/169s are too much truck and the coping/ledge has so much room to move around on the hanger which means locking in is a bit harder. Combing Radial Fulls and wide trucks gives me the best of both worlds.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteWhat kind of skating are you doing mainly?Expand QuoteAs someone who prefers fat wide wheels, it doesn't get any better than radial fulls. No diminished performance due to both sides being rounded edges. I love my dogtowns for their softer durometer but that 80s type shape with the outside being a sharp straight cut makes my fs slappies harder to get into. 92a-95a in a radial full would be the holy grail wheel for me.[close]
And also anyone else riding super fat wheels. What are you doing with these? I totally get big wheels in the sense of large diameter, but why the giant width? Rip to all the truck space covered by fullies[close]
This[close]
Less hanger space is actually one big reason why I use Radial Fulls on wider trucks. As much as I like wide boards, sometimes I feel like 159/169s are too much truck and the coping/ledge has so much room to move around on the hanger which means locking in is a bit harder. Combing Radial Fulls and wide trucks gives me the best of both worlds.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteWhat kind of skating are you doing mainly?Expand QuoteAs someone who prefers fat wide wheels, it doesn't get any better than radial fulls. No diminished performance due to both sides being rounded edges. I love my dogtowns for their softer durometer but that 80s type shape with the outside being a sharp straight cut makes my fs slappies harder to get into. 92a-95a in a radial full would be the holy grail wheel for me.[close]
And also anyone else riding super fat wheels. What are you doing with these? I totally get big wheels in the sense of large diameter, but why the giant width? Rip to all the truck space covered by fullies[close]
This[close]
Less hanger space is actually one big reason why I use Radial Fulls on wider trucks. As much as I like wide boards, sometimes I feel like 159/169s are too much truck and the coping/ledge has so much room to move around on the hanger which means locking in is a bit harder. Combing Radial Fulls and wide trucks gives me the best of both worlds.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteWhat kind of skating are you doing mainly?Expand QuoteAs someone who prefers fat wide wheels, it doesn't get any better than radial fulls. No diminished performance due to both sides being rounded edges. I love my dogtowns for their softer durometer but that 80s type shape with the outside being a sharp straight cut makes my fs slappies harder to get into. 92a-95a in a radial full would be the holy grail wheel for me.[close]
And also anyone else riding super fat wheels. What are you doing with these? I totally get big wheels in the sense of large diameter, but why the giant width? Rip to all the truck space covered by fullies[close]
This[close]
Less hanger space is actually one big reason why I use Radial Fulls on wider trucks. As much as I like wide boards, sometimes I feel like 159/169s are too much truck and the coping/ledge has so much room to move around on the hanger which means locking in is a bit harder. Combing Radial Fulls and wide trucks gives me the best of both worlds.[close]
This makes sense. I usually ride 169s/AF1 66, but I feel like I would enjoy some fulls on a set of 215s.
Also @yourbreakfsat your YouTube videos are great, definitely one of the better channels out there
Just wanted to say that after being off the Classics for a while and now being back on them: the best wheel ever?
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteBones bearings are falling out of my formula fours. Anyone had this experience? Like the inner rins is not tight anymore and so the bearings just fall out. Did i do something wrong? They are around 1 years old.[close]
Something doesn't add up with this one, F4's are tight AF to get bearings in and out of compared to other wheels.[close]
f4's moved to Mexico recently so there right have been a couple hiccups right out of the gate..[close]
There have definitely been known issues with the molds, mainly the bearing seats didn't quite fit or something ended up crooked in some of them, which usually means the bearing will not fit in the wheel how it should, sometimes at all, as per a set I had seen from someone else and returned to the shop for an immediate replacement, or others which you can just feel when you roll the wheel with bearings in it between fingers that it is ovalling rather than rolling straight. This is most likely what has happened in the set in question, as you could most likely get the bearings in as per usual and the wheel didn't immediately lock up or not fit on the truck with bearings in, but then over time the bearing has widened out the bearing seat and caused the current situation.
What size and shape are the wheels?
Just curious because I have seen it more so on Conical Full but other people said they have had it on the Radial Full and another set I can't remember right now.
Given the time frame, they are well past warranty from a shop perspective, but if you are in USA, reaching out to DLX might help anyway.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteWhat kind of skating are you doing mainly?Expand QuoteAs someone who prefers fat wide wheels, it doesn't get any better than radial fulls. No diminished performance due to both sides being rounded edges. I love my dogtowns for their softer durometer but that 80s type shape with the outside being a sharp straight cut makes my fs slappies harder to get into. 92a-95a in a radial full would be the holy grail wheel for me.[close]
And also anyone else riding super fat wheels. What are you doing with these? I totally get big wheels in the sense of large diameter, but why the giant width? Rip to all the truck space covered by fullies[close]
This[close]
I'll skate any terrain: Pools, ramp, ditches, street, park, whatever; have ridden STF V3s (thinnest you can get) to Radial Fulls and so many in between and quite honestly, I don't find any performance benefits when it comes to width, only downsides.
Can someone provide some science (and not 'cuz they feel good) to help up plebs understand why sacrificing hanger room for grinds and increasing board weight (which does apply to speed given equal friction) for a wider/chunky wheel is better, as it's been argued (and proven) that width of an object is not impacting it's ability to grip or slide.
Skateboards don't go fast enough (on Mega, maybe) for things like drag or rolling (width) resistance to come into play.
These aren't fucking drag racing tires pushed by 1000hp
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteBones bearings are falling out of my formula fours. Anyone had this experience? Like the inner rins is not tight anymore and so the bearings just fall out. Did i do something wrong? They are around 1 years old.[close]
Something doesn't add up with this one, F4's are tight AF to get bearings in and out of compared to other wheels.[close]
f4's moved to Mexico recently so there right have been a couple hiccups right out of the gate..[close]
There have definitely been known issues with the molds, mainly the bearing seats didn't quite fit or something ended up crooked in some of them, which usually means the bearing will not fit in the wheel how it should, sometimes at all, as per a set I had seen from someone else and returned to the shop for an immediate replacement, or others which you can just feel when you roll the wheel with bearings in it between fingers that it is ovalling rather than rolling straight. This is most likely what has happened in the set in question, as you could most likely get the bearings in as per usual and the wheel didn't immediately lock up or not fit on the truck with bearings in, but then over time the bearing has widened out the bearing seat and caused the current situation.
What size and shape are the wheels?
Just curious because I have seen it more so on Conical Full but other people said they have had it on the Radial Full and another set I can't remember right now.
Given the time frame, they are well past warranty from a shop perspective, but if you are in USA, reaching out to DLX might help anyway.[close]
conical full 54 mm from last summer.
My philosophy is that a wider wheel distributes forces applied over a larger surface area, thus creating less pressure on a specific point, allowing the wheels to begin to slide more easily.
My philosophy is that a wider wheel distributes forces applied over a larger surface area, thus creating less pressure on a specific point, allowing the wheels to begin to slide more easily.
This ad was from 1991.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bk9HpT2CEAAHwgj?format=jpg&name=900x900)
Random question for the Spitfire historians here in the chat. When were Tablets introduced (2019?)? Was there a Tablet-like Spitfire wheel in the 90s? I swear at one point I rode Tablets for a while but maybe they were a different blocky Spitfire wheel.
Expand QuoteThis ad was from 1991.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bk9HpT2CEAAHwgj?format=jpg&name=900x900)[close]
oh sick, a nice photo from when skating was cool
was he on Dogtown back then? Dogtown K9's, believe it or not were pretty great back then. IIRCC, they would've just been going out of style as they where 57mm-ish. spitfire's kinda sucked and were thought to flatspot easily.
awesome photo!
This ad was from 1991.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bk9HpT2CEAAHwgj?format=jpg&name=900x900)
Expand QuoteThis ad was from 1991.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bk9HpT2CEAAHwgj?format=jpg&name=900x900)[close]
Ok so I'm not completely crazy. Did they discontinue them at some point and then bring them back in 2019? Appreciate everyone's help! My memory is an absolute sieve.
"Hots", wonder how they looked.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteThis ad was from 1991.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bk9HpT2CEAAHwgj?format=jpg&name=900x900)[close]
Ok so I'm not completely crazy. Did they discontinue them at some point and then bring them back in 2019? Appreciate everyone's help! My memory is an absolute sieve.[close]
they went away really quick iircc, wheels were just about to go small & pants big! the 55mm is/was a good wheel, the 53mm back then flat spotted easily, narrow wheels in general across brands flat spotted much easier back then.
Correct. Here's a glimpse of the 90s tablets.
(https://www.thrashermagazine.com/imagesV2/Burnout/2013/Magazine_1991/July_1991/TH0791July1991p24-25_800t.jpg)
Correct. Here's a glimpse of the 90s tablets.
(https://www.thrashermagazine.com/imagesV2/Burnout/2013/Magazine_1991/July_1991/TH0791July1991p24-25_800t.jpg)
Wasn’t there another run of tablets before the current iteration (not the old school ones, after those)?
Wasn’t there another run of tablets before the current iteration (not the old school ones, after those)?
Expand QuoteRandom question for the Spitfire historians here in the chat. When were Tablets introduced (2019?)? Was there a Tablet-like Spitfire wheel in the 90s? I swear at one point I rode Tablets for a while but maybe they were a different blocky Spitfire wheel.[close]
When Spitfire first brought out the Formula Four in 2013, they had four options, Classic 99 duro, Full 99, Classic 101 and Tablet 101, again not quite the same shape as is now, but very similar, in that it was flat sided with minimal curved corners.
Expand QuoteWasn’t there another run of tablets before the current iteration (not the old school ones, after those)?[close]
I put this in the middle of a whole lot of other info on the last page, most likely got lost as I often type too much and people don't read it all, but yes, in 2013 when the Formula Four first came out.
I still have the marketing blurb from them too, which was cool to see.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteRandom question for the Spitfire historians here in the chat. When were Tablets introduced (2019?)? Was there a Tablet-like Spitfire wheel in the 90s? I swear at one point I rode Tablets for a while but maybe they were a different blocky Spitfire wheel.[close]
When Spitfire first brought out the Formula Four in 2013, they had four options, Classic 99 duro, Full 99, Classic 101 and Tablet 101, again not quite the same shape as is now, but very similar, in that it was flat sided with minimal curved corners.[close]
Found it:
(https://i.ibb.co/Jr760k5/Spitfire-First-F4-Poster-2013.jpg) (https://ibb.co/c2FfMTD)
Expand QuoteCorrect. Here's a glimpse of the 90s tablets.
(https://www.thrashermagazine.com/imagesV2/Burnout/2013/Magazine_1991/July_1991/TH0791July1991p24-25_800t.jpg)[close]
These look sick. It would be cool if they still did the side cut instead of the flat side profile that they do now
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteCorrect. Here's a glimpse of the 90s tablets.
(https://www.thrashermagazine.com/imagesV2/Burnout/2013/Magazine_1991/July_1991/TH0791July1991p24-25_800t.jpg)[close]
These look sick. It would be cool if they still did the side cut instead of the flat side profile that they do now[close]
The thing is the OG Classic appears to be that wheel shape, as in it is a squared off wheel, not wide in profile like some of the others, with a cutaway area like they have with the swirl graphic, so although the name and formula might have changed a bit, the actual shape of the wheel is much the same as per the wheels back then.
Check out some OG Classics if you haven't seen them in person, because that is what they look like. Comparing their dimensions from the Spitfire site too, they are not that different, between 1 - 2 mm wider in wheel width and riding surface from Tablet to OG Classic, but as you said, without the flat side profile.
https://www.spitfirewheels.com/wheel-shapes/
Those old Thrasher mags they put up in their entirety are amazing to see too!
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteCorrect. Here's a glimpse of the 90s tablets.
(https://www.thrashermagazine.com/imagesV2/Burnout/2013/Magazine_1991/July_1991/TH0791July1991p24-25_800t.jpg)[close]
These look sick. It would be cool if they still did the side cut instead of the flat side profile that they do now[close]
The thing is the OG Classic appears to be that wheel shape, as in it is a squared off wheel, not wide in profile like some of the others, with a cutaway area like they have with the swirl graphic, so although the name and formula might have changed a bit, the actual shape of the wheel is much the same as per the wheels back then.
Check out some OG Classics if you haven't seen them in person, because that is what they look like. Comparing their dimensions from the Spitfire site too, they are not that different, between 1 - 2 mm wider in wheel width and riding surface from Tablet to OG Classic, but as you said, without the flat side profile.
https://www.spitfirewheels.com/wheel-shapes/
Those old Thrasher mags they put up in their entirety are amazing to see too!
On a tangent, dang man, it’s been a sec since I looked at that catalog you linked
I had no idea lock-ins we’re wider than conical fulls
I really wish they made 58-60 mm lock ins, that would be heavenly
Expand QuoteWasn’t there another run of tablets before the current iteration (not the old school ones, after those)?[close]
I put this in the middle of a whole lot of other info on the last page, most likely got lost as I often type too much and people don't read it all, but yes, in 2013 when the Formula Four first came out.
I still have the marketing blurb from them too, which was cool to see.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteRandom question for the Spitfire historians here in the chat. When were Tablets introduced (2019?)? Was there a Tablet-like Spitfire wheel in the 90s? I swear at one point I rode Tablets for a while but maybe they were a different blocky Spitfire wheel.[close]
When Spitfire first brought out the Formula Four in 2013, they had four options, Classic 99 duro, Full 99, Classic 101 and Tablet 101, again not quite the same shape as is now, but very similar, in that it was flat sided with minimal curved corners.[close]
Found it:
(https://i.ibb.co/Jr760k5/Spitfire-First-F4-Poster-2013.jpg) (https://ibb.co/c2FfMTD)
i'm sorry the what nows?
update:
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0607/6232/5221/files/SAPH_2e74f462-808b-49ae-aef4-fb574fb0c4bf_2048x2048.webp?v=1687295543)
Expand Quotei'm sorry the what nows?
update:
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0607/6232/5221/files/SAPH_2e74f462-808b-49ae-aef4-fb574fb0c4bf_2048x2048.webp?v=1687295543)[close]
What shop did you see this in?
damn look forward to trying those. i was just shooting the shit today at the local park about how much i love spits but the cruisers aren't that special. any idea as to when they hit shops?
Why this kind of new wheel? There are loads of great cruiser options already, and the Powell Dragons have changed the game in actually really skateable softer wheels. For the ones who like the cheesy candy aesthetic?
so i don't math a lot but isn't the 101 core gonna make these harder than 90?(https://i.imgur.com/CzNdsMk.jpg)
also, i really want to see the purple ones, someone show me the purple ones! please!
(https://i.imgur.com/CzNdsMk.jpg)Expand Quoteso i don't math a lot but isn't the 101 core gonna make these harder than 90?
also, i really want to see the purple ones, someone show me the purple ones! please![close]
Link with stock photo:
https://calsk8.com/collections/wheels/products/spitfire-wheels-sapphires-90du-purple-58mm-wheels
(https://i.imgur.com/CzNdsMk.jpg)Expand Quoteso i don't math a lot but isn't the 101 core gonna make these harder than 90?
also, i really want to see the purple ones, someone show me the purple ones! please![close]
Link with stock photo:
https://calsk8.com/collections/wheels/products/spitfire-wheels-sapphires-90du-purple-58mm-wheels
(https://i.imgur.com/CzNdsMk.jpg)
Link with stock photo:
https://calsk8.com/collections/wheels/products/spitfire-wheels-sapphires-90du-purple-58mm-wheels
I skated this new spot with brand new asphalt and found that my CF 99s are quite slippery there. Actually to the point I found it annoying. Would it be worth getting the 97s instead and maybe a wider wheel like Radial Full?Go for 97s if you want more grip.
(https://i.ibb.co/BB0YWy4/Wheel0623-Sapphire58mm-1200x.webp) (https://ibb.co/BB0YWy4)
that's interesting, looks like the wheel is clear and the core is what colors the wheel.
Oh shit. Cal Skate is one of my locals. Thanks!
Go for 97s if you want more grip.Expand QuoteI skated this new spot with brand new asphalt and found that my CF 99s are quite slippery there. Actually to the point I found it annoying. Would it be worth getting the 97s instead and maybe a wider wheel like Radial Full?[close]
Pals,Probably because after they lose 1 - 2mm they start to become a fat conical
I've been wondering why most people recommend spitfire conical fulls for bowl skaters when in fact when I look at transition skaters like Grosso (RIP), Hewitt, Ronnie Sandoval, Jimmy Wilkens, Omar Hasasan (just to name a few) all rock spitfire classics between 55 and 58 mm. Been on CF's forever but those purple classics look soooo good.
Pals,
I've been wondering why most people recommend spitfire conical fulls for bowl skaters when in fact when I look at transition skaters like Grosso (RIP), Hewitt, Ronnie Sandoval, Jimmy Wilkens, Omar Hasasan (just to name a few) all rock spitfire classics between 55 and 58 mm. Been on CF's forever but those purple classics look soooo good.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CtzwLbVSnAI/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/CtzwLbVSnAI/)
They are testing some 93 and 95 f4’s. I have an old set of some sample cored f4 wheels that feel like they’re in that range but I don’t remember them sliding well.
Might set em up again.
Expand QuoteThey are testing some 93 and 95 f4’s. I have an old set of some sample cored f4 wheels that feel like they’re in that range but I don’t remember them sliding well.
Might set em up again.[close]
I'm a big Spitfire skater, but the thing about 93a and 95a Spitfire wheels is that we already have the 97a, which is pretty soft but doesn't remotely compare to the Dragons. I think going softer still is barking up the wrong tree, but maybe they will prove me wrong.
I think they're on the right track though with these 90a cruiser wheels which come in a size and shape familiar to street skaters (as opposed to the OJ Mini Juice, which I like but which are huge).
i wonder how close they will be to dragons tho. Or if that’s for the 95 F4 supposedly testing. But what you meant I think is how close these will be to oj key frames, 87a, as a wheel shape that resembles a steeet wheelExpand QuoteThey are testing some 93 and 95 f4’s. I have an old set of some sample cored f4 wheels that feel like they’re in that range but I don’t remember them sliding well.
Might set em up again.[close]
I'm a big Spitfire skater, but the thing about 93a and 95a Spitfire wheels is that we already have the 97a, which is pretty soft but doesn't remotely compare to the Dragons. I think going softer still is barking up the wrong tree, but maybe they will prove me wrong.
I think they're on the right track though with these 90a cruiser wheels which come in a size and shape familiar to street skaters (as opposed to the OJ Mini Juice, which I like but which are huge).
yo what the fuck, spitfire doesnt sell any 60 mm (non classic shape) wheels anymore? went on their website and they had nothing
Expand Quoteyo what the fuck, spitfire doesnt sell any 60 mm (non classic shape) wheels anymore? went on their website and they had nothing[close]
hm i see conical full and radial full both listed as having 60mm sizes as does the og classics, can't vouch for them being in shops though
edit: last time i saw 60mm og classics actually in a shop they sold out in record time
yo what the fuck, spitfire doesnt sell any 60 mm (non classic shape) wheels anymore? went on their website and they had nothing
Expand Quoteyo what the fuck, spitfire doesnt sell any 60 mm (non classic shape) wheels anymore? went on their website and they had nothing[close]
So I guess if you were looking only at the current catalog release directly on their site, I can easily understand how you might think the wheel sizes are a bit limited.
https://www.spitfirewheels.com/
If you look at the options for all the wheel shapes and sizes, you might see there are other options that are just not currently in this release catalog, which even then is by no means everything that is released or available.
https://www.spitfirewheels.com/wheel-shapes/
From this and from what I have looked for and found online in shops, there are still Conical Full 60mm in both 99 and 97 duro options, OG Classic wheels in 60 mm 99 duro and what might not be currently available right this minute, but the Radial Full 60 mm wheels.
That is besides the Classic 60 mm which have come out in 99 and 101 duros, or the original urethane 60 mm Classic which is a big squared off wheel, not round at all in shape.
As others had said there is also currently the Kader Radial Full 59 mm and quite a few in 58 mm, which is not far off, but all up I think the interest in wider wheels of more moderate diameters is what is trending, not so much the bigger diameter wheels, so more so the 54 through 56 sizes, than 60 mm sizes.
Thinking about past releases of Spitfire wheels, there never really have been that many options in the more recent past (think last decade or so) anyway in 60 mm size or bigger, mainly the rounder Classics, the thin square OG Classics, then the original formula wider Conical shaped Classics and once there were Big head and Multiball graphics on 59, 61 and 63 mm sizes, but that might even pre date the Formula Four wheel completely, along with the Street burners and Park burners.
I feel like there always have been more options in 60 mm wheel sizes from other brands like Bones / Powell and Santa Cruz / OJ / Slimeballs in particular, but most more diverse wheel brands have a 60 mm wheel here or there in the lineup, in much the same way that most deck brands had a token vert skater in their lineup over the years too. Not to say that only vert dudes ride 60 mm wheels either, but that is just one observation.
* Not trying to sound like a dick or anything either, just looking at all the options in wheels and there don't seem to have been that many 60 mm over the years anyway.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CtwzoeOPDpZ/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
Expand QuoteExpand Quoteyo what the fuck, spitfire doesnt sell any 60 mm (non classic shape) wheels anymore? went on their website and they had nothing[close]
So I guess if you were looking only at the current catalog release directly on their site, I can easily understand how you might think the wheel sizes are a bit limited.
https://www.spitfirewheels.com/
If you look at the options for all the wheel shapes and sizes, you might see there are other options that are just not currently in this release catalog, which even then is by no means everything that is released or available.
https://www.spitfirewheels.com/wheel-shapes/
From this and from what I have looked for and found online in shops, there are still Conical Full 60mm in both 99 and 97 duro options, OG Classic wheels in 60 mm 99 duro and what might not be currently available right this minute, but the Radial Full 60 mm wheels.
That is besides the Classic 60 mm which have come out in 99 and 101 duros, or the original urethane 60 mm Classic which is a big squared off wheel, not round at all in shape.
As others had said there is also currently the Kader Radial Full 59 mm and quite a few in 58 mm, which is not far off, but all up I think the interest in wider wheels of more moderate diameters is what is trending, not so much the bigger diameter wheels, so more so the 54 through 56 sizes, than 60 mm sizes.
Thinking about past releases of Spitfire wheels, there never really have been that many options in the more recent past (think last decade or so) anyway in 60 mm size or bigger, mainly the rounder Classics, the thin square OG Classics, then the original formula wider Conical shaped Classics and once there were Big head and Multiball graphics on 59, 61 and 63 mm sizes, but that might even pre date the Formula Four wheel completely, along with the Street burners and Park burners.
I feel like there always have been more options in 60 mm wheel sizes from other brands like Bones / Powell and Santa Cruz / OJ / Slimeballs in particular, but most more diverse wheel brands have a 60 mm wheel here or there in the lineup, in much the same way that most deck brands had a token vert skater in their lineup over the years too. Not to say that only vert dudes ride 60 mm wheels either, but that is just one observation.
* Not trying to sound like a dick or anything either, just looking at all the options in wheels and there don't seem to have been that many 60 mm over the years anyway.[close]
you dont sound like a dick
i looked at this page
https://www.spitfirewheels.com/formulafour/
which is what came up for me on google when i searched for the formula four wheel catalog - i wanted the f4 catalog specifically. its so stupid to me they have like 3 different catalogs on the same website & that the formula 4 sizes between them are different
this would be my first 60mm wheel, ive been on the 54-56 wave for the past 3/4 years but recently started skating transition a lot which is why i wanna bump it up
i remembered t-funk skating those massive f4 60 classics in a few of his parts a few years ago, so i assumed that theyd still be around given the big wheel fad
like you said, i did notice that wide wheels are becoming more the thing as opposed to bigger diameter wheels. but again, i wanted the bigger diameter for transition so i wouldnt have to pump so hard all the time
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quoteyo what the fuck, spitfire doesnt sell any 60 mm (non classic shape) wheels anymore? went on their website and they had nothing[close]
So I guess if you were looking only at the current catalog release directly on their site, I can easily understand how you might think the wheel sizes are a bit limited.
https://www.spitfirewheels.com/
If you look at the options for all the wheel shapes and sizes, you might see there are other options that are just not currently in this release catalog, which even then is by no means everything that is released or available.
https://www.spitfirewheels.com/wheel-shapes/
From this and from what I have looked for and found online in shops, there are still Conical Full 60mm in both 99 and 97 duro options, OG Classic wheels in 60 mm 99 duro and what might not be currently available right this minute, but the Radial Full 60 mm wheels.
That is besides the Classic 60 mm which have come out in 99 and 101 duros, or the original urethane 60 mm Classic which is a big squared off wheel, not round at all in shape.
As others had said there is also currently the Kader Radial Full 59 mm and quite a few in 58 mm, which is not far off, but all up I think the interest in wider wheels of more moderate diameters is what is trending, not so much the bigger diameter wheels, so more so the 54 through 56 sizes, than 60 mm sizes.
Thinking about past releases of Spitfire wheels, there never really have been that many options in the more recent past (think last decade or so) anyway in 60 mm size or bigger, mainly the rounder Classics, the thin square OG Classics, then the original formula wider Conical shaped Classics and once there were Big head and Multiball graphics on 59, 61 and 63 mm sizes, but that might even pre date the Formula Four wheel completely, along with the Street burners and Park burners.
I feel like there always have been more options in 60 mm wheel sizes from other brands like Bones / Powell and Santa Cruz / OJ / Slimeballs in particular, but most more diverse wheel brands have a 60 mm wheel here or there in the lineup, in much the same way that most deck brands had a token vert skater in their lineup over the years too. Not to say that only vert dudes ride 60 mm wheels either, but that is just one observation.
* Not trying to sound like a dick or anything either, just looking at all the options in wheels and there don't seem to have been that many 60 mm over the years anyway.[close]
you dont sound like a dick
i looked at this page
https://www.spitfirewheels.com/formulafour/
which is what came up for me on google when i searched for the formula four wheel catalog - i wanted the f4 catalog specifically. its so stupid to me they have like 3 different catalogs on the same website & that the formula 4 sizes between them are different
this would be my first 60mm wheel, ive been on the 54-56 wave for the past 3/4 years but recently started skating transition a lot which is why i wanna bump it up
i remembered t-funk skating those massive f4 60 classics in a few of his parts a few years ago, so i assumed that theyd still be around given the big wheel fad
like you said, i did notice that wide wheels are becoming more the thing as opposed to bigger diameter wheels. but again, i wanted the bigger diameter for transition so i wouldnt have to pump so hard all the time[close]
That old size and spec page is funny, given how old and outdated it is, but I guess it is still there, just not linked from the main page anymore.
When I set up a vert board when I worked at an indoor park with a vert ramp it sure was fun, but a lot of the vert guys were using 58s more than 60 mm wheels. When asked, some said it was too hard to get 60 mm wheels in the shape they wanted, but they had way more options in 58 mm, which makes sense.
It is still not quite the 60 mm wheel, but 58 mm is pretty close and there might be more options, if you didn't want the Classic shape, which do work well as I have a set of the 60 mm Classics for that board that barely got used, but I am not really much of a big ramp skater anymore either.
If you want more grip, the wider wheels definitely give that, along with the 97s which some of the older guys use on the skatelite surfaces, but more people say the 99s are the go if you are not so worried about slipping out.
I guess it depends on what is available to you in whatever country or continent you live on too.
Got my first set of 97s today and they're 56mm. Only tried them on my frontyard and they felt pretty good to me. I'm excited to wear them out and see how they feel later. Atm I'm so beaten I cant skate anything really.
Expand QuoteGot my first set of 97s today and they're 56mm. Only tried them on my frontyard and they felt pretty good to me. I'm excited to wear them out and see how they feel later. Atm I'm so beaten I cant skate anything really.[close]
I’ve been looking at maybe getting some 97 Radial Fulls. Excited to see how they work for you.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quoteyo what the fuck, spitfire doesnt sell any 60 mm (non classic shape) wheels anymore? went on their website and they had nothing[close]
So I guess if you were looking only at the current catalog release directly on their site, I can easily understand how you might think the wheel sizes are a bit limited.
https://www.spitfirewheels.com/
If you look at the options for all the wheel shapes and sizes, you might see there are other options that are just not currently in this release catalog, which even then is by no means everything that is released or available.
https://www.spitfirewheels.com/wheel-shapes/
From this and from what I have looked for and found online in shops, there are still Conical Full 60mm in both 99 and 97 duro options, OG Classic wheels in 60 mm 99 duro and what might not be currently available right this minute, but the Radial Full 60 mm wheels.
That is besides the Classic 60 mm which have come out in 99 and 101 duros, or the original urethane 60 mm Classic which is a big squared off wheel, not round at all in shape.
As others had said there is also currently the Kader Radial Full 59 mm and quite a few in 58 mm, which is not far off, but all up I think the interest in wider wheels of more moderate diameters is what is trending, not so much the bigger diameter wheels, so more so the 54 through 56 sizes, than 60 mm sizes.
Thinking about past releases of Spitfire wheels, there never really have been that many options in the more recent past (think last decade or so) anyway in 60 mm size or bigger, mainly the rounder Classics, the thin square OG Classics, then the original formula wider Conical shaped Classics and once there were Big head and Multiball graphics on 59, 61 and 63 mm sizes, but that might even pre date the Formula Four wheel completely, along with the Street burners and Park burners.
I feel like there always have been more options in 60 mm wheel sizes from other brands like Bones / Powell and Santa Cruz / OJ / Slimeballs in particular, but most more diverse wheel brands have a 60 mm wheel here or there in the lineup, in much the same way that most deck brands had a token vert skater in their lineup over the years too. Not to say that only vert dudes ride 60 mm wheels either, but that is just one observation.
* Not trying to sound like a dick or anything either, just looking at all the options in wheels and there don't seem to have been that many 60 mm over the years anyway.[close]
you dont sound like a dick
i looked at this page
https://www.spitfirewheels.com/formulafour/
which is what came up for me on google when i searched for the formula four wheel catalog - i wanted the f4 catalog specifically. its so stupid to me they have like 3 different catalogs on the same website & that the formula 4 sizes between them are different
this would be my first 60mm wheel, ive been on the 54-56 wave for the past 3/4 years but recently started skating transition a lot which is why i wanna bump it up
i remembered t-funk skating those massive f4 60 classics in a few of his parts a few years ago, so i assumed that theyd still be around given the big wheel fad
like you said, i did notice that wide wheels are becoming more the thing as opposed to bigger diameter wheels. but again, i wanted the bigger diameter for transition so i wouldnt have to pump so hard all the time[close]
That old size and spec page is funny, given how old and outdated it is, but I guess it is still there, just not linked from the main page anymore.
When I set up a vert board when I worked at an indoor park with a vert ramp it sure was fun, but a lot of the vert guys were using 58s more than 60 mm wheels. When asked, some said it was too hard to get 60 mm wheels in the shape they wanted, but they had way more options in 58 mm, which makes sense.
It is still not quite the 60 mm wheel, but 58 mm is pretty close and there might be more options, if you didn't want the Classic shape, which do work well as I have a set of the 60 mm Classics for that board that barely got used, but I am not really much of a big ramp skater anymore either.
If you want more grip, the wider wheels definitely give that, along with the 97s which some of the older guys use on the skatelite surfaces, but more people say the 99s are the go if you are not so worried about slipping out.
I guess it depends on what is available to you in whatever country or continent you live on too.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteGot my first set of 97s today and they're 56mm. Only tried them on my frontyard and they felt pretty good to me. I'm excited to wear them out and see how they feel later. Atm I'm so beaten I cant skate anything really.[close]
I’ve been looking at maybe getting some 97 Radial Fulls. Excited to see how they work for you.[close]
I'll report back as soon as I get to skate them properly. I got the Radial Fulls and they're a little wider than my 56mm CFulls. I never had radials before and I already love the looks.
Ok, i gave in and picked up the kader 59s. The marketing with the tray got me, I just needed it. These are 3mm larger than anything ive ever skated lol What deck and truck setups are you all skating these with?I feel like, depending on your weight, wheel wells AND Indy standard/hollows to avoid risers. Polar's probably got something for ya
Hoping to avoid risers, so im guessing wheel wells or indy stds might be in my future
(https://i.imgur.com/O16w3CV.jpg)
Aren't Indy stage 4 higher than the standards? Would try these if that's the case and you're up for a set-up change to accommodate the Kaders.they arent
Ok, i gave in and picked up the kader 59s. The marketing with the tray got me, I just needed it. These are 3mm larger than anything ive ever skated lol What deck and truck setups are you all skating these with?
Hoping to avoid risers, so im guessing wheel wells or indy stds might be in my future
Expand QuoteOk, i gave in and picked up the kader 59s. The marketing with the tray got me, I just needed it. These are 3mm larger than anything ive ever skated lol What deck and truck setups are you all skating these with?
Hoping to avoid risers, so im guessing wheel wells or indy stds might be in my future[close]
So without doing too much looking back over your old posts, what size wheels have you had up to before? Remember if you had 56 mm, it would only be 1.5 mm higher from the middle of the axle to deck / ground so not that much, but every mm can feel like a mile sometimes to some people too.
Also you are on Ace AF1 trucks or do you have other trucks on other setups besides what you posted?
One guy I know just set up AF1 60s with some 58 mm Conical Full wheels on a DLX 8.75 deck, which I would have thought would have a ton of wheelbite but he is making it work as is, no risers.
My thought would have at least been 1 - 2 mm risers (or 1/8" being more common), as I have on another board with AF1 trucks and what would most likely be 57 to 58 mm wheels (were bigger but now worn down) and that works fine on the rubber 2 mm pads I put on that board.
By cutting out wheel wells on another board, I don't need risers at all for that same size truck to wheel ratio, but everyone is different.
Depends what you have available or what you want to buy, but I would be setting up something you already have first just feeling it out and seeing if any more height is needed, then add a thin riser or something just to try a mm or so more, or run those wheels on something like the Heroin egg if it has wheel wells just to see.
Tried F4 97 (classics 53mm), can't believe how awful they feel.
Too sticky for my likingExpand QuoteTried F4 97 (classics 53mm), can't believe how awful they feel.[close]
How so? I have Radials Fulls and after broken in they felt almost like the 99s but grippier.
Too sticky for my likingExpand QuoteExpand QuoteTried F4 97 (classics 53mm), can't believe how awful they feel.[close]
How so? I have Radials Fulls and after broken in they felt almost like the 99s but grippier.[close]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeKmeXlktew (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeKmeXlktew)
anyone else here actually like the spitfire OG formula? yeah they had more grip but it didn’t affect my skating at all. they just had a more controlled slide for me. although i like formula 4’s above any other wheel, sometimes they can feel too slick if that makes sense. after trying the classic formula, i formed the opinion that people just go for formula fours because its marketed as the more premium product.
i was fussy at first when i tried the classic formula, and as time went on, i realized i could still do the same things as i could on them compared to if i was running f4’s.
if anyone’s hesitant about trying the classic formula, give it a shot! plus they’re cheaper.
i tried them out in the classic shape, btw. i’d recommend others do so as well. idek if they offer them in any other shape like a conical or something, but if they did, i would stay away from them. them in the classic shape would be the right amount of grip, but in a conical shape would be too much imo
Apologies if this has been discussed before… I’ve been skating old F4s for a while now and recently got some new Conical Fulls… I don’t remember them being this white not too long ago? Is this something they changed recently or did I just forget how long it took for my old sets to look like this? I’ve always liked the more “natural” colour to my wheels and I can’t stop thinking about it now. This particular set almost seem a little stickier too in comparison (they’re 99s but have a few pairs of 97s and barely notice a difference.
Did I miss something? Did the formula change?
Expand QuoteApologies if this has been discussed before… I’ve been skating old F4s for a while now and recently got some new Conical Fulls… I don’t remember them being this white not too long ago? Is this something they changed recently or did I just forget how long it took for my old sets to look like this? I’ve always liked the more “natural” colour to my wheels and I can’t stop thinking about it now. This particular set almost seem a little stickier too in comparison (they’re 99s but have a few pairs of 97s and barely notice a difference.
Did I miss something? Did the formula change?[close]
sounds like you might've psyched yourself out. 99.9% sureformula is the same, just color is different on the more recent batches & haven't noticed a difference in performance personally
Probably you got used to the yellow after all that timeExpand QuoteExpand QuoteApologies if this has been discussed before… I’ve been skating old F4s for a while now and recently got some new Conical Fulls… I don’t remember them being this white not too long ago? Is this something they changed recently or did I just forget how long it took for my old sets to look like this? I’ve always liked the more “natural” colour to my wheels and I can’t stop thinking about it now. This particular set almost seem a little stickier too in comparison (they’re 99s but have a few pairs of 97s and barely notice a difference.
Did I miss something? Did the formula change?[close]
sounds like you might've psyched yourself out. 99.9% sureformula is the same, just color is different on the more recent batches & haven't noticed a difference in performance personally[close]
Don’t get me wrong, they perform absolutely fine and I wouldn’t ever skate another wheel - just some observations. Like I said it’s been a while since I’ve had brand new ones so I wasn’t sure if it was just that.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteApologies if this has been discussed before… I’ve been skating old F4s for a while now and recently got some new Conical Fulls… I don’t remember them being this white not too long ago? Is this something they changed recently or did I just forget how long it took for my old sets to look like this? I’ve always liked the more “natural” colour to my wheels and I can’t stop thinking about it now. This particular set almost seem a little stickier too in comparison (they’re 99s but have a few pairs of 97s and barely notice a difference.
Did I miss something? Did the formula change?[close]
sounds like you might've psyched yourself out. 99.9% sureformula is the same, just color is different on the more recent batches & haven't noticed a difference in performance personally[close]
Don’t get me wrong, they perform absolutely fine and I wouldn’t ever skate another wheel - just some observations. Like I said it’s been a while since I’ve had brand new ones so I wasn’t sure if it was just that.
i normally skate 54mm classics. i just ordered 54mm radial FULLS, but i didnt realize they were the fulls i thought just standard radial. are these things going to be noticeably larger than a 54mm classic?Classics are 33.5mm wide with a 16.5mm riding surface
i normally skate 54mm classics. i just ordered 54mm radial FULLS, but i didnt realize they were the fulls i thought just standard radial. are these things going to be noticeably larger than a 54mm classic?
(https://i.imgur.com/TXMoYn1.jpg)
Kitty approved.
Flatspotted my second pair in a row of 52mm 99 duro classic f4s. I’ll get another pair though. It will take three strikes to have me looking at other options.exactly same here, man. I love the formula, though. been thinking about different shape than classic-maybe flatspots are due to narrow contact patch. my friends with conicals doesn t have this issue..
Expand Quotei normally skate 54mm classics. i just ordered 54mm radial FULLS, but i didnt realize they were the fulls i thought just standard radial. are these things going to be noticeably larger than a 54mm classic?[close]
You're going from Spitfires narrowest regular production wheel to their widest. They're going to be way different. Radial fulls are rrrrreally big.
Taking the plunge and got myself a set of 55mm Classics F4, biggest I've ever ridden were 54mm, been on 52 - 53mm mostly. I'm hoping the narrow profile will compensate to make the wheel feel less clunky.
Taking the plunge and got myself a set of 55mm Classics F4, biggest I've ever ridden were 54mm, been on 52 - 53mm mostly. I'm hoping the narrow profile will compensate to make the wheel feel less clunky.
can somebody confirm to me that the classic 99 formula slides better than f4 101s? tried an old pair of mines today and was slipping everywhere. powerslides were effortless to the point of doing them by accident (i skate f4 101s 99% of the time)I remember the classic formulas feeling harder by comparison to f4 in general even when the duros are the same so you may be on to something. You'd have to wear away the ridges first on a new classic formula wheel tho.
also can you confirm that f4 99s slide better than f4 101s?
I remember the classic formulas feeling harder by comparison to f4 in general even when the duros are the same so you may be on to something. You'd have to wear away the ridges first on a new classic formula wheel tho.Expand Quotecan somebody confirm to me that the classic 99 formula slides better than f4 101s? tried an old pair of mines today and was slipping everywhere. powerslides were effortless to the point of doing them by accident (i skate f4 101s 99% of the time)
also can you confirm that f4 99s slide better than f4 101s?[close]
Expand QuoteTaking the plunge and got myself a set of 55mm Classics F4, biggest I've ever ridden were 54mm, been on 52 - 53mm mostly. I'm hoping the narrow profile will compensate to make the wheel feel less clunky.[close]
Loved 55 classics. Especially when they wear down some
They also flatspot way faster too but good luck. I do wonder if they've improved at all. They still release them regularly so they must be loved by some people.Expand QuoteI remember the classic formulas feeling harder by comparison to f4 in general even when the duros are the same so you may be on to something. You'd have to wear away the ridges first on a new classic formula wheel tho.Expand Quotecan somebody confirm to me that the classic 99 formula slides better than f4 101s? tried an old pair of mines today and was slipping everywhere. powerslides were effortless to the point of doing them by accident (i skate f4 101s 99% of the time)
also can you confirm that f4 99s slide better than f4 101s?[close][close]
Thank you dude, I thought I was going nuts. I think imma jump ship back to the classic formula, I’m really enjoying slipping and sliding around. Gonna see how my blunt slides change with them. Maybe I won’t have to wax as much or at all
They also flatspot way faster too but good luck. I do wonder if they've improved at all. They still release them regularly so they must be loved by some people.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI remember the classic formulas feeling harder by comparison to f4 in general even when the duros are the same so you may be on to something. You'd have to wear away the ridges first on a new classic formula wheel tho.Expand Quotecan somebody confirm to me that the classic 99 formula slides better than f4 101s? tried an old pair of mines today and was slipping everywhere. powerslides were effortless to the point of doing them by accident (i skate f4 101s 99% of the time)
also can you confirm that f4 99s slide better than f4 101s?[close][close]
Thank you dude, I thought I was going nuts. I think imma jump ship back to the classic formula, I’m really enjoying slipping and sliding around. Gonna see how my blunt slides change with them. Maybe I won’t have to wax as much or at all[close]
Expand QuoteThey also flatspot way faster too but good luck. I do wonder if they've improved at all. They still release them regularly so they must be loved by some people.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI remember the classic formulas feeling harder by comparison to f4 in general even when the duros are the same so you may be on to something. You'd have to wear away the ridges first on a new classic formula wheel tho.Expand Quotecan somebody confirm to me that the classic 99 formula slides better than f4 101s? tried an old pair of mines today and was slipping everywhere. powerslides were effortless to the point of doing them by accident (i skate f4 101s 99% of the time)
also can you confirm that f4 99s slide better than f4 101s?[close][close]
Thank you dude, I thought I was going nuts. I think imma jump ship back to the classic formula, I’m really enjoying slipping and sliding around. Gonna see how my blunt slides change with them. Maybe I won’t have to wax as much or at all[close][close]
The original or classic formula were great once they had aged some, whereas the brand new fresh ones felt softer, flatspotted way more easily and seemed to wear down way faster as well, from the team riders and others who always got new sets each month. I ended up with a lot of mix and match wheels from those guys back in the old days, some flatspotted, others worn down to 50 mm on one wheel and still 54 or 56 mm on others in the same sets.
On my travels round AU, I would often buy the old yellowed looking ones that were either old stock or on clearance that others didn't like the look of but they skated way better than the newer bright white looking ones, from my own experience.
That seems similar to your experience too, older classic formula being really good wheels, so just a word of caution with getting a brand new set and thinking they will perform the same, although there are still lots of people who swear by the classic formula and prefer the colour and the performance to Formula Four or any other wheel on the market.
Any which way, I feel like Formula Four perform the same from day one til they are done in the 99 duro - they just skate so well on (almost) everything for me, whereas the 101s were a little here and there, some being super slippery, others being very grippy and just had different properties between what would have been two of the same formula wheels.
That's why I go more with the Formula Four 99 duro, but everyone has their preferences.
I remember the classic formulas feeling harder by comparison to f4 in general even when the duros are the same so you may be on to something. You'd have to wear away the ridges first on a new classic formula wheel tho.Expand Quotecan somebody confirm to me that the classic 99 formula slides better than f4 101s? tried an old pair of mines today and was slipping everywhere. powerslides were effortless to the point of doing them by accident (i skate f4 101s 99% of the time)
also can you confirm that f4 99s slide better than f4 101s?[close]
Expand QuoteI remember the classic formulas feeling harder by comparison to f4 in general even when the duros are the same so you may be on to something. You'd have to wear away the ridges first on a new classic formula wheel tho.Expand Quotecan somebody confirm to me that the classic 99 formula slides better than f4 101s? tried an old pair of mines today and was slipping everywhere. powerslides were effortless to the point of doing them by accident (i skate f4 101s 99% of the time)
also can you confirm that f4 99s slide better than f4 101s?[close][close]
Does anyone skate that .sml wheel that's supposed to be like old spits? What about those Acid wheels. I miss that hard slidey wheel sometimes (flatspots be damned).
I've been on two sets of newer batches of F4 lately, 54mm radials then just got some 58mm classics, both 99a. They feel grippier than I remember, I swear other sets I've bought in recent years in the same duro were still like ice with a lot of slipouts. I must say, these 58mm classic shapes are bad ass, I plan on skating them all the way til indoor park season.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI remember the classic formulas feeling harder by comparison to f4 in general even when the duros are the same so you may be on to something. You'd have to wear away the ridges first on a new classic formula wheel tho.Expand Quotecan somebody confirm to me that the classic 99 formula slides better than f4 101s? tried an old pair of mines today and was slipping everywhere. powerslides were effortless to the point of doing them by accident (i skate f4 101s 99% of the time)
also can you confirm that f4 99s slide better than f4 101s?[close][close]
Does anyone skate that .sml wheel that's supposed to be like old spits? What about those Acid wheels. I miss that hard slidey wheel sometimes (flatspots be damned).[close]
I've ridden the AG (Austyn Gillette, 99a) formula and the OG (101a). AG feel closer to Classic formula, great all purpose wheel for street.
Currently on the OG 52mm formula and they are really hard and street needs a couple more pushes, better as a park wheel. Really slick on the right ledge and managed to get some healthy slides at my usual spot. Rode mine for 3 weeks and I still got threads on them, if that means anything.
I'd stick to the AG formula if you're dealing with some crust, OG if you're skating smooth parks.
Rode Acid wheels that I got on discount, painfully hard and I gave up on them after 2 sessions.
I was wondering which is better for skating transition/bowls. 57 lock in fulls in 99a or the 57 lock ins in 99a. I've been riding 58 conical fulls since started skating, they have a pretty big riding surface compared to regular lock ins. but the lockin fulls are really fucking wide so im not sure about rotating them on my ace 66s.
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To echo what some others had said about the newer Spitfire Formula Four wheels being a lot lighter in colour, I just got a few sets including some normal Radials and they definitely seem a lighter colour than some of the other Formula Four wheels that I bought last month.
I know they are the newest product so that would explain some of the older wheels looking darker, but overall I would imagine that they will still skate the same and feel the same. Any which way, I am not about to open a new set just yet and have others to get through first, but the colour difference is interesting to see in person.
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To echo what some others had said about the newer Spitfire Formula Four wheels being a lot lighter in colour, I just got a few sets including some normal Radials and they definitely seem a lighter colour than some of the other Formula Four wheels that I bought last month.
I know they are the newest product so that would explain some of the older wheels looking darker, but overall I would imagine that they will still skate the same and feel the same. Any which way, I am not about to open a new set just yet and have others to get through first, but the colour difference is interesting to see in person.[close]
They still potato pretty fast, here's a conical full that's a few months old next to a few week old lock in full. The conical fulls were super white when new.
(https://i.ibb.co/TWHzsVH/20230822-171834.jpg) (https://ibb.co/TWHzsVH)
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To echo what some others had said about the newer Spitfire Formula Four wheels being a lot lighter in colour, I just got a few sets including some normal Radials and they definitely seem a lighter colour than some of the other Formula Four wheels that I bought last month.
I know they are the newest product so that would explain some of the older wheels looking darker, but overall I would imagine that they will still skate the same and feel the same. Any which way, I am not about to open a new set just yet and have others to get through first, but the colour difference is interesting to see in person.[close]
They still potato pretty fast, here's a conical full that's a few months old next to a few week old lock in full. The conical fulls were super white when new.
(https://i.ibb.co/TWHzsVH/20230822-171834.jpg) (https://ibb.co/TWHzsVH)[close]
Yeah, I love them when they get to that look and age. They just hold up so much better too, but that could just be in my head.
I often go back to some of my older completes and they just feel so good, everything nicely worn in without being worn out, dead, etc.
See some 58mm Kader Radial Fulls. Think I’ll need risers with my standard Indys?
i rode 58s on indy forged (53.5mm height) and Ace (53mm height) and it wasnt too bad. i tightened the trucks up a bit and its pretty reliable, never had any bad hangup or anything.
but i noticed liek 55mm wheel is kinda the sweet spot for those trucks where i dont even have to think about it.
you will be slightly higher up at 55mm height of indy standard, so i think you will be good. i would try it without first.
I went with the 54mm Kader Radial Fulls. Compared them to the CFs to make sure they were wider. The 59mm ones were insanely large. It seems like Spitfire barely makes this shape in 54mm though. (https://i.ibb.co/W37KTrg/IMG-3561.jpg) (https://ibb.co/W37KTrg)
(https://i.ibb.co/dpVtGwd/IMG-3562.jpg) (https://ibb.co/dpVtGwd)Expand QuoteI went with the 54mm Kader Radial Fulls. Compared them to the CFs to make sure they were wider. The 59mm ones were insanely large. It seems like Spitfire barely makes this shape in 54mm though. (https://i.ibb.co/W37KTrg/IMG-3561.jpg) (https://ibb.co/W37KTrg)[close]
how much wider are they than 54 CFs if you don't mind me asking. not the listed dimensions but if you held both in hand, big difference?
(https://i.ibb.co/dpVtGwd/IMG-3562.jpg) (https://ibb.co/dpVtGwd)Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI went with the 54mm Kader Radial Fulls. Compared them to the CFs to make sure they were wider. The 59mm ones were insanely large. It seems like Spitfire barely makes this shape in 54mm though. (https://i.ibb.co/W37KTrg/IMG-3561.jpg) (https://ibb.co/W37KTrg)[close]
how much wider are they than 54 CFs if you don't mind me asking. not the listed dimensions but if you held both in hand, big difference?[close]
A little bigger. But I’ll take it 🤤
(https://i.ibb.co/DDjC6kV/IMG-3563.jpg) (https://ibb.co/DDjC6kV)
38mm vs 33mm according to my digital caliper.
just got a set of radials after skating a conical full type shape, its a world of difference. The round edge makes it so much easier and agile.
i feel like fat wheels are best for people who are just skating a lot of different BIG spots all the time doing your go-to's as huge as possible. heavy terrain, always going regular... T Funk, Mason Silva, Jeff Carlyle come to mind. anything with FULL in the name lol.I love tablets. The riding surface is big for their size. Probably my favorite Spitfire shape. I just got the chunky boys cause I’m injured and madness has me wrapped in its cold embrace lol
if you are trying to do new tricks, it requires a lot of tries and you dont want heavy ass wheels for that, get more tries in on a light setup. classic or normal radial all the way. or i guess maybe small tablets if you only skate in straight lines / ledge wizard.
- Spitfire Sapphires 56A 90A - I picked these up on a lark after liking the F4s, they're a bust. I was hoping for a non-cruiser shaped wheel could skate more quietly around my house after dark without pissing off my neighbors, but they feel / sound pretty hard because of the 101A core-- noticeably harder than the Bones X97s IMO. Roll speed doesn't seem the best and are stickier than Dragons or X-formula in slides. I don't really get the target audience except maybe those who think colored clear wheels are cool?
Looks like some new size Classic F4s coming in Spring 2024. 48mm and 66.6mm among others.
Expand QuoteLooks like some new size Classic F4s coming in Spring 2024. 48mm and 66.6mm among others.[close]
What color is the swirl on the 48s? I really dig the Lil’ Smokies I have in that size/shape.
(https://www.spitfirewheels.com/fall23/09-sf-fl23-d1-firebolt.jpg)
Bighead Shape getting some love
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Bighead Shape getting some love[close]
Why don't they run a bighead shape in F4?
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Bighead Shape getting some love[close]
Why don't they run a bighead shape in F4?[close]
classic wide is basically the same
I kinda feel like Spitfire is resting on its laurels. Bones came out with new formulas with more diverse shapes. And spitfires like bro check it out clear wheels and full size wheels on the biggest shapes.
Spitfire step it up! I don’t like the fact right now I prefer x99. I can’t even look myself in the mirror
I kinda feel like Spitfire is resting on its laurels. Bones came out with new formulas with more diverse shapes. And spitfires like bro check it out clear wheels and full size wheels on the biggest shapes.
Spitfire step it up! I don’t like the fact right now I prefer x99. I can’t even look myself in the mirror
Just keep the Radial Slims in 52 / 54 / 56mm in regular rotation and Spitfire would make at least 7 ppl on here really happy.
I'm feeling slightly bigger wheels these days, a 55 / 56mm Radial Slim would be a fun ride.
Expand QuoteJust keep the Radial Slims in 52 / 54 / 56mm in regular rotation and Spitfire would make at least 7 ppl on here really happy.
I'm feeling slightly bigger wheels these days, a 55 / 56mm Radial Slim would be a fun ride.[close]
Seconded. The minute I can find a 55mm Radial Slim somewhere (hopefully someday) I'll stock 'em up like a little squirrel.
Damn it, I just want some radial slims in 99a 52-54mm… last time i saw some was like 3 or more years ago
Isn't the V2 pretty close? My V5 X99 had the same contact patch width as a spitfire Classic that was lightly worn and were slightly narrower in the middle, but the Radial Slim has a 3mm wider contact patch in a given size and is 4mm narrower in the middle than the Classic.
I'm not super sold on the X99 formula for my needs, is there an F4 Bones equivalent?
Just keep the Radial Slims in 52 / 54 / 56mm in regular rotation and Spitfire would make at least 7 ppl on here really happy.
I'm feeling slightly bigger wheels these days, a 55 / 56mm Radial Slim would be a fun ride.
The kids are fucking loving the big wide wheels. My locals cannot keep them in stock and the Classics just sit there. Ventures with fat wheels is trending with the younguns. When I was at a shop last week they had just gotten a DLX delivery a few days prior and it was mostly 53 and up OG Classics, Conical Fulls, Radial Fulls, Lock in Fulls and the Radials and Locks sold out in 3 days. They didn't even order anything under 53.What shop is this? And do they have 54mm? I have been looking for f4 og classics everwhere (please don't say you mis typed and its just the regular classics)
Anybody able to powerslide/speed check on 97s? I can make those puppies yip but not bark, if you know what I mean.
What shop is this? And do they have 54mm? I have been looking for f4 og classics everwhere (please don't say you mis typed and its just the regular classics)Expand QuoteThe kids are fucking loving the big wide wheels. My locals cannot keep them in stock and the Classics just sit there. Ventures with fat wheels is trending with the younguns. When I was at a shop last week they had just gotten a DLX delivery a few days prior and it was mostly 53 and up OG Classics, Conical Fulls, Radial Fulls, Lock in Fulls and the Radials and Locks sold out in 3 days. They didn't even order anything under 53.[close]
Expand QuoteWhat shop is this? And do they have 54mm? I have been looking for f4 og classics everwhere (please don't say you mis typed and its just the regular classics)Expand QuoteThe kids are fucking loving the big wide wheels. My locals cannot keep them in stock and the Classics just sit there. Ventures with fat wheels is trending with the younguns. When I was at a shop last week they had just gotten a DLX delivery a few days prior and it was mostly 53 and up OG Classics, Conical Fulls, Radial Fulls, Lock in Fulls and the Radials and Locks sold out in 3 days. They didn't even order anything under 53.[close][close]
og classics distribution/production is on hold. They might come back later in the rotation.
The only option now seems to be old stock
Has anyone here made the switch from 99 to 97 for regular street skating? Even 99's felt a bit rattly for me today and my streets aren't even super crusty or anything.
prebooks / catalogsExpand QuoteExpand QuoteWhat shop is this? And do they have 54mm? I have been looking for f4 og classics everwhere (please don't say you mis typed and its just the regular classics)Expand QuoteThe kids are fucking loving the big wide wheels. My locals cannot keep them in stock and the Classics just sit there. Ventures with fat wheels is trending with the younguns. When I was at a shop last week they had just gotten a DLX delivery a few days prior and it was mostly 53 and up OG Classics, Conical Fulls, Radial Fulls, Lock in Fulls and the Radials and Locks sold out in 3 days. They didn't even order anything under 53.[close][close]
og classics distribution/production is on hold. They might come back later in the rotation.
The only option now seems to be old stock[close]
Source?
Has anyone tried the 97D Spitfire F4 wheels?
I have been using the Bones X97, and really like them. Wondering how the Spitfires compare.
Expand QuoteHas anyone here made the switch from 99 to 97 for regular street skating? Even 99's felt a bit rattly for me today and my streets aren't even super crusty or anything.[close]
I have, I'm running with 97A 54mm conical fulls on my main setup right now. I can't see myself ever going back to harder wheels, the overall comfort level is just so much higher that I don't mind sacrificing a bit of slideablilty. I was also never as attached to the sound of harder wheels as some other people on here seem to be, so it's not like my overall experience is in any way diminished. Quite the opposite, I have a smoother ride and need to push less. Highly recommended.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteHas anyone here made the switch from 99 to 97 for regular street skating? Even 99's felt a bit rattly for me today and my streets aren't even super crusty or anything.[close]
I have, I'm running with 97A 54mm conical fulls on my main setup right now. I can't see myself ever going back to harder wheels, the overall comfort level is just so much higher that I don't mind sacrificing a bit of slideablilty. I was also never as attached to the sound of harder wheels as some other people on here seem to be, so it's not like my overall experience is in any way diminished. Quite the opposite, I have a smoother ride and need to push less. Highly recommended.[close]
I have too, and I've had pretty much the same experience. I live in Nashville and only skate little street spots and the ground is super fucked, besides Legislative Plaza I guess. My best friend even skates like 90as or 85as of some other wheel brand. I might just suck too much to be able to deal with real vibratey, rattley ground while trying my little tricks, but the 2-durometer difference is somehow real beneficial to me.
Just wanted to say I miss the og classic shape. I just went from riding 60s and risers to 55 and no risers. Wanted easier pop while my ankles healing and it’s a godsend. Just sucks the conical/CF are only 54 and 56. Riding tablets now and like em a lot but I like the look of the fuller wheels . My partner had the og classic 55s and they look so sick
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteHas anyone here made the switch from 99 to 97 for regular street skating? Even 99's felt a bit rattly for me today and my streets aren't even super crusty or anything.[close]
I have, I'm running with 97A 54mm conical fulls on my main setup right now. I can't see myself ever going back to harder wheels, the overall comfort level is just so much higher that I don't mind sacrificing a bit of slideablilty. I was also never as attached to the sound of harder wheels as some other people on here seem to be, so it's not like my overall experience is in any way diminished. Quite the opposite, I have a smoother ride and need to push less. Highly recommended.[close]
I have too, and I've had pretty much the same experience. I live in Nashville and only skate little street spots and the ground is super fucked, besides Legislative Plaza I guess. My best friend even skates like 90as or 85as of some other wheel brand. I might just suck too much to be able to deal with real vibratey, rattley ground while trying my little tricks, but the 2-durometer difference is somehow real beneficial to me.[close]
x99s is what you're after.
So tempted about trying X99 after being on F4 99 for I don't even how long.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteHas anyone here made the switch from 99 to 97 for regular street skating? Even 99's felt a bit rattly for me today and my streets aren't even super crusty or anything.[close]
I have, I'm running with 97A 54mm conical fulls on my main setup right now. I can't see myself ever going back to harder wheels, the overall comfort level is just so much higher that I don't mind sacrificing a bit of slideablilty. I was also never as attached to the sound of harder wheels as some other people on here seem to be, so it's not like my overall experience is in any way diminished. Quite the opposite, I have a smoother ride and need to push less. Highly recommended.[close]
I have too, and I've had pretty much the same experience. I live in Nashville and only skate little street spots and the ground is super fucked, besides Legislative Plaza I guess. My best friend even skates like 90as or 85as of some other wheel brand. I might just suck too much to be able to deal with real vibratey, rattley ground while trying my little tricks, but the 2-durometer difference is somehow real beneficial to me.[close]
x99s is what you're after.[close]
Yes these are amazing wheels! Really versatile and fast as f*ck. They are almost as good as X97 on not so great terrain and in the park they also keep speed pretty much as well as F4 101.
when did Formula 4s first released? I don't remember when that happened, as I was probably broke and not paying attention to what people with money buy. I feel like Spitfire popularity really ramped up when F4s showed up. I could be mistaken.
If Spitfire made a new formula, would they call it the formula 5? Or would they try to keep to keep the Formula 4 branding? like an F4+ or something?
Expand Quotewhen did Formula 4s first released? I don't remember when that happened, as I was probably broke and not paying attention to what people with money buy. I feel like Spitfire popularity really ramped up when F4s showed up. I could be mistaken.
If Spitfire made a new formula, would they call it the formula 5? Or would they try to keep to keep the Formula 4 branding? like an F4+ or something?[close]
Check the beginning of this thread. I'm not sure why they'd need a new formula. They could obviously try the current soft wheel that slides thing that has everyone excited about Bones again but that might be an addition to not a replacement for F4s... who knows... It will take a lot to get me off F4s at this point.
when did Formula 4s first released? I don't remember when that happened, as I was probably broke and not paying attention to what people with money buy. I feel like Spitfire popularity really ramped up when F4s showed up. I could be mistaken.
If Spitfire made a new formula, would they call it the formula 5? Or would they try to keep to keep the Formula 4 branding? like an F4+ or something?
Were F4 og classics not selling well? Why aren't they making them again? Were they too similar to conicals? Superficial reasons for really wanting a set but I liked the black ring on the non swirl side of the wheels and I really want them to restock.I keep thinking the same thing. Seems like they enjoy giving us something cool, then immediately taking it away.
Were F4 og classics not selling well? Why aren't they making them again? Were they too similar to conicals? Superficial reasons for really wanting a set but I liked the black ring on the non swirl side of the wheels and I really want them to restock.
Sadly, the 8 of us on these forums that want the wheel, even if we e-mailed or DM'd like men, everyday, we'd never get them ;)
Bones x99 V1 are my go to instead these days as I like a thin(ner wheel) and sadly Spit doesn't offer anything that suits me.
^im another OG classic lover. would love some 54mm f4'sI miss my F4 OG classics, the GT ones 53mm, every single day.
Expand QuoteSadly, the 8 of us on these forums that want the wheel, even if we e-mailed or DM'd like men, everyday, we'd never get them ;)
Bones x99 V1 are my go to instead these days as I like a thin(ner wheel) and sadly Spit doesn't offer anything that suits me.[close]
I wish they retired Tablets, they had their time in the sun but it's time to return to the classics (Radial Slims).
I don’t know if I had any sway, I probably didn’t. But on every wheel release post Spitfire put up on Instagram.
I basically just said “these are good but where are the radials?” And after some time the Leo baker ones came out and I stock piled
Might take some time but you guys could try
Love some Classic fulls again.
Also, why don't they market Lil Smokies more? I see them in online shops priced anywhere from $20 to $49... Those things are little gems for the BPSW curious, if you can get them for the right price. They put some out in a radial shape at some point.
I keep thinking the same thing. Seems like they enjoy giving us something cool, then immediately taking it away.Expand QuoteWere F4 og classics not selling well? Why aren't they making them again? Were they too similar to conicals? Superficial reasons for really wanting a set but I liked the black ring on the non swirl side of the wheels and I really want them to restock.[close]
Interesting I find the 97As slower in the skatepark.I think I’ll put my 99s on another settup and compare the speed by feel.
so about two years ago I bought my first real wheels as a beginner, they are full conical 58mm 97a I skated them till they are all 56mm. later i got some conical full 58 99as and have been skating them for bout a year. Today i switched the wheels back yo the 97s I get like a 20% boost of speed from drop ins from 6ft, able to carve way higher on transition than the 99s. is there a reason for that? may just be me overthinking the change in duro.
The size of the wheels are 57 mm in the back and 56 in the front. (Measured to make sure they wear evenly) I could in the future but some new 97 spitfire 58s to make it more accurate. One other thing to add is that the park that I skate is a little bit rough so it’s not slick so that could be a factor to think about.Expand Quoteso about two years ago I bought my first real wheels as a beginner, they are full conical 58mm 97a I skated them till they are all 56mm. later i got some conical full 58 99as and have been skating them for bout a year. Today i switched the wheels back yo the 97s I get like a 20% boost of speed from drop ins from 6ft, able to carve way higher on transition than the 99s. is there a reason for that? may just be me overthinking the change in duro.[close]
What are the current sizes of all those wheels? I have •always• found like-sized wheels to be faster (on smooth park surfaces) in relation to their hardness. However, could see a new 58mm 97a being/feeling faster than an old 101a worn down to a beat-up 55mm.
so about two years ago I bought my first real wheels as a beginner, they are full conical 58mm 97a I skated them till they are all 56mm. later i got some conical full 58 99as and have been skating them for bout a year. Today i switched the wheels back yo the 97s I get like a 20% boost of speed from drop ins from 6ft, able to carve way higher on transition than the 99s. is there a reason for that? may just be me overthinking the change in duro.
Interesting I find the 97As slower in the skatepark.
Theoretically, a softer duro (but not too soft) will be faster than a harder duro. Cruiser wheels can usually go much faster than park/street wheels of about the same size. And if they're larger, they'll go even faster - it's what the downhill and cruiser wheels are designed for. Increased speed over longer distance compared to street/park wheels, which grip/slide better at the cost of less speed.
The variables that shake this hypothesis up include quality of the ground (your example), type of bearings, weight of wheel, and shape of wheel (among others not listed).
Some shapes keep speed better than others. Contact patch & aerodynamic (or not) design of A model vs B model can highlight this difference. It's evident in your scenario @Gandito405 with your 97As being faster on the drop in.
Personally, I've always noticed softer wheels are faster on transition than harder wheels. I believe it has to do with the softer duro absorbing surface friction better. As well as the width of the contact patch. They will accelerate & maintain speed from a drop in much better than a harder duro due to reduced friction and better absorb & release of any kinetic energy received that would slow them down.
Theoretically, a softer duro (but not too soft) will be faster than a harder duro. Cruiser wheels can usually go much faster than park/street wheels of about the same size. And if they're larger, they'll go even faster - it's what the downhill and cruiser wheels are designed for. Increased speed over longer distance compared to street/park wheels, which grip/slide better at the cost of less speed.
The variables that shake this hypothesis up include quality of the ground (your example), type of bearings, weight of wheel, and shape of wheel (among others not listed).
Some shapes keep speed better than others. Contact patch & aerodynamic (or not) design of A model vs B model can highlight this difference. It's evident in your scenario @Gandito405 with your 97As being faster on the drop in.
Personally, I've always noticed softer wheels are faster on transition than harder wheels. I believe it has to do with the softer duro absorbing surface friction better. As well as the width of the contact patch. They will accelerate & maintain speed from a drop in much better than a harder duro due to reduced friction and better absorb & release of any kinetic energy received that would slow them down.
For me it depends on the surface. If the wheels are the same diameter and shape. Softer wheels are faster on a rough surface, slower on a smooth surface, opposite for harder wheels. 99s are way faster for me in Oregon skateparks.
I also feel like I can really get a much better pump and carve on softer wheels on slippery type skateparks where I would not push quite as hard on more slippery wheels, so this could also have something to do with it.
Just some thoughts anyway.
Expand QuoteI also feel like I can really get a much better pump and carve on softer wheels on slippery type skateparks where I would not push quite as hard on more slippery wheels, so this could also have something to do with it.
Just some thoughts anyway.[close]
This is my thinking, as well. I've been using SPFs at newer/slicker parks and F4 99s at older parks but just bought a set of F4 97s to skate a bigger slick park to keep from sliding out and to keep speed at the same time.
I have an “old” pair of 58 OG classic F4’s and they seem nearly identical to conical fulls. Maybe it’s just the 58mm size/wider contact patch/side cuts but these look exactly like a conical.
I know for a fact these are OG classics because I still have the original packaging and as far as I know the spiral graphic has only been on “OG” shapes.
I have an “old” pair of 58 OG classic F4’s and they seem nearly identical to conical fulls. Maybe it’s just the 58mm size/wider contact patch/side cuts but these look exactly like a conical.
I know for a fact these are OG classics because I still have the original packaging and as far as I know the spiral graphic has only been on “OG” shapes.
I have an “old” pair of 58 OG classic F4’s and they seem nearly identical to conical fulls. Maybe it’s just the 58mm size/wider contact patch/side cuts but these look exactly like a conical.
I know for a fact these are OG classics because I still have the original packaging and as far as I know the spiral graphic has only been on “OG” shapes.
This is a stupid question, but does Spitfire make a lot of black or other colored F4s in 54mm or bigger? They seem kind of hard to find. I really like how these Max Palmer ones look but idk if I want to spend $50 on themthere is a new Nicole Hause 56mm Radials in Black
https://limosineskateboards.com/products/max-palmer-limosine-54-mm-classic-full-formula-4-spitfire-wheel
OG Classics narrow? I beg to differ, sir. I feel that they are wide wheels -- as are most wheels in the Spitfire range these days, to be honest, apart from smaller (new) Classics and Radial Slims. After riding slimmer Bones shapes for a while and getting to really like them, even 55mm OG Classics felt really chunky.
OGs are going? My local just got a bunch in so that's sorta strange. Prefer any rounded shape to Conicals
.Very handy. Thanks!
Anyone not sure of the wheel shapes and sizes, they are all listed online here:
https://www.spitfirewheels.com/wheel-shapes/
But this is maybe the best (easiest to read) shape guide that I have seen so I will put this up here as well.
(https://i.ibb.co/N6XBYLj/spitfire-size-chart-2023.jpg) (https://ibb.co/N6XBYLj)
(https://i.ibb.co/ccPnTNF/spitfire-size-chart-2023.jpg)
OGs are going? My local just got a bunch in so that's sorta strange. Prefer any rounded shape to Conicals
Expand QuoteOGs are going? My local just got a bunch in so that's sorta strange. Prefer any rounded shape to Conicals[close]
They still make OG classics in the regular 99a formula. They haven’t made Formula 4 OG classics for a few years now
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteOGs are going? My local just got a bunch in so that's sorta strange. Prefer any rounded shape to Conicals[close]
They still make OG classics in the regular 99a formula. They haven’t made Formula 4 OG classics for a few years now[close]
Not true. The current Spitfire website has OG Classics listed under the F4 shapes. No mention of it being of the older formula.
https://www.spitfirewheels.com/wheel-shapes/
My local shop has F4 OG Classics on the shelf, so unless they've kept them there since several years ago (not likely), they're still being produced and are definitely F4.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteOGs are going? My local just got a bunch in so that's sorta strange. Prefer any rounded shape to Conicals[close]
They still make OG classics in the regular 99a formula. They haven’t made Formula 4 OG classics for a few years now[close]
Not true. The current Spitfire website has OG Classics listed under the F4 shapes. No mention of it being of the older formula.
https://www.spitfirewheels.com/wheel-shapes/
My local shop has F4 OG Classics on the shelf, so unless they've kept them there since several years ago (not likely), they're still being produced and are definitely F4.[close]
i've seen more normal OG classics than F4 OG classics in shops the last fiew years. but might also be no ones buying the normal spits. why would you.
so dont know which are older, but they definitly exist.
Anybody tried Lock in fulls?Love ‘em. I had some RFs and they were bad, but these are something special. I have them in 55m.
I thought the lock in fulls were fine, smooth ride and do lock in. But the square edges on such a wide wheel made it feel a bit clunky for flip tricks and getting a little tech. Not a dealbreaker by any means but if I was gonna ride a wheel that wide I'd definitely prefer the more rounded edges on the radial full to make things feel just a tad more manageable.I had two pairs of RFs back-to-back. Both had oversized bearing seats.
I had two pairs of RFs back-to-back. Both had oversized bearing seats.Expand QuoteI thought the lock in fulls were fine, smooth ride and do lock in. But the square edges on such a wide wheel made it feel a bit clunky for flip tricks and getting a little tech. Not a dealbreaker by any means but if I was gonna ride a wheel that wide I'd definitely prefer the more rounded edges on the radial full to make things feel just a tad more manageable.[close]
That's cute, a me problem. There were multiple folks talking about it in the wheel thread. So clearly you're not paying attention. Which is fine really.Expand QuoteI had two pairs of RFs back-to-back. Both had oversized bearing seats.Expand QuoteI thought the lock in fulls were fine, smooth ride and do lock in. But the square edges on such a wide wheel made it feel a bit clunky for flip tricks and getting a little tech. Not a dealbreaker by any means but if I was gonna ride a wheel that wide I'd definitely prefer the more rounded edges on the radial full to make things feel just a tad more manageable.[close][close]
Sounds like a you problem, haven't heard of anybody else having this issue.
Even if it was more widespread, thats more due to an unlucky batch coming from the factory and not really relevant to the pros/cons of the actual wheel shape.
That's cute, a me problem. There were multiple folks talking about it in the wheel thread. So clearly you're not paying attention. Which is fine really.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI had two pairs of RFs back-to-back. Both had oversized bearing seats.Expand QuoteI thought the lock in fulls were fine, smooth ride and do lock in. But the square edges on such a wide wheel made it feel a bit clunky for flip tricks and getting a little tech. Not a dealbreaker by any means but if I was gonna ride a wheel that wide I'd definitely prefer the more rounded edges on the radial full to make things feel just a tad more manageable.[close][close]
Sounds like a you problem, haven't heard of anybody else having this issue.
Even if it was more widespread, thats more due to an unlucky batch coming from the factory and not really relevant to the pros/cons of the actual wheel shape.[close]
I was just saying, the fact that I got two different sets, from different places, in different duros, it shows that RFs have a quality issue. The pros/cons of the shape don't matter if they're defective lol
That's cute, a me problem. There were multiple folks talking about it in the wheel thread. So clearly you're not paying attention. Which is fine really.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI had two pairs of RFs back-to-back. Both had oversized bearing seats.Expand QuoteI thought the lock in fulls were fine, smooth ride and do lock in. But the square edges on such a wide wheel made it feel a bit clunky for flip tricks and getting a little tech. Not a dealbreaker by any means but if I was gonna ride a wheel that wide I'd definitely prefer the more rounded edges on the radial full to make things feel just a tad more manageable.[close][close]
Sounds like a you problem, haven't heard of anybody else having this issue.
Even if it was more widespread, thats more due to an unlucky batch coming from the factory and not really relevant to the pros/cons of the actual wheel shape.[close]
I was just saying, the fact that I got two different sets, from different places, in different duros, it shows that RFs have a quality issue. The pros/cons of the shape don't matter if they're defective lol
Expand QuoteThat's cute, a me problem. There were multiple folks talking about it in the wheel thread. So clearly you're not paying attention. Which is fine really.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI had two pairs of RFs back-to-back. Both had oversized bearing seats.Expand QuoteI thought the lock in fulls were fine, smooth ride and do lock in. But the square edges on such a wide wheel made it feel a bit clunky for flip tricks and getting a little tech. Not a dealbreaker by any means but if I was gonna ride a wheel that wide I'd definitely prefer the more rounded edges on the radial full to make things feel just a tad more manageable.[close][close]
Sounds like a you problem, haven't heard of anybody else having this issue.
Even if it was more widespread, thats more due to an unlucky batch coming from the factory and not really relevant to the pros/cons of the actual wheel shape.[close]
I was just saying, the fact that I got two different sets, from different places, in different duros, it shows that RFs have a quality issue. The pros/cons of the shape don't matter if they're defective lol[close]
No there wasn't there were a few of us mentioning other Spitfire issues we had at times and how good their warranty is. You have to remember that you're at the upper weight limit of most skate gear which will exacerbate any potential flaws.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteThat's cute, a me problem. There were multiple folks talking about it in the wheel thread. So clearly you're not paying attention. Which is fine really.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI had two pairs of RFs back-to-back. Both had oversized bearing seats.Expand QuoteI thought the lock in fulls were fine, smooth ride and do lock in. But the square edges on such a wide wheel made it feel a bit clunky for flip tricks and getting a little tech. Not a dealbreaker by any means but if I was gonna ride a wheel that wide I'd definitely prefer the more rounded edges on the radial full to make things feel just a tad more manageable.[close][close]
Sounds like a you problem, haven't heard of anybody else having this issue.
Even if it was more widespread, thats more due to an unlucky batch coming from the factory and not really relevant to the pros/cons of the actual wheel shape.[close]
I was just saying, the fact that I got two different sets, from different places, in different duros, it shows that RFs have a quality issue. The pros/cons of the shape don't matter if they're defective lol[close]
No there wasn't there were a few of us mentioning other Spitfire issues we had at times and how good their warranty is. You have to remember that you're at the upper weight limit of most skate gear which will exacerbate any potential flaws.[close]
The upper weight limit? Skateboarding has a weight limit? When did this start? We got new skate rules? The skate police are here, everyone! Seriously, what the fuck does that even mean?
And how is an oversized bearing seat, likely noticed before ever so much as rolling on the defective wheel, a weight issue? I’m real lost on this one.
I had an issue a few years back with a spitfire wheel that the bearings were offset in and they couldn’t even go on my axle as a result, was that because I had a chicken sandwich at lunch today?
LebowskisRug, I’ve always thought you’ve done a pretty good job at tying the room together, but everything’s feeling a little disconnected at the moment.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteThat's cute, a me problem. There were multiple folks talking about it in the wheel thread. So clearly you're not paying attention. Which is fine really.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI had two pairs of RFs back-to-back. Both had oversized bearing seats.Expand QuoteI thought the lock in fulls were fine, smooth ride and do lock in. But the square edges on such a wide wheel made it feel a bit clunky for flip tricks and getting a little tech. Not a dealbreaker by any means but if I was gonna ride a wheel that wide I'd definitely prefer the more rounded edges on the radial full to make things feel just a tad more manageable.[close][close]
Sounds like a you problem, haven't heard of anybody else having this issue.
Even if it was more widespread, thats more due to an unlucky batch coming from the factory and not really relevant to the pros/cons of the actual wheel shape.[close]
I was just saying, the fact that I got two different sets, from different places, in different duros, it shows that RFs have a quality issue. The pros/cons of the shape don't matter if they're defective lol[close]
No there wasn't there were a few of us mentioning other Spitfire issues we had at times and how good their warranty is. You have to remember that you're at the upper weight limit of most skate gear which will exacerbate any potential flaws.[close]
The upper weight limit? Skateboarding has a weight limit? When did this start? We got new skate rules? The skate police are here, everyone! Seriously, what the fuck does that even mean?
And how is an oversized bearing seat, likely noticed before ever so much as rolling on the defective wheel, a weight issue? I’m real lost on this one.
I had an issue a few years back with a spitfire wheel that the bearings were offset in and they couldn’t even go on my axle as a result, was that because I had a chicken sandwich at lunch today?
LebowskisRug, I’ve always thought you’ve done a pretty good job at tying the room together, but everything’s feeling a little disconnected at the moment.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteThat's cute, a me problem. There were multiple folks talking about it in the wheel thread. So clearly you're not paying attention. Which is fine really.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI had two pairs of RFs back-to-back. Both had oversized bearing seats.Expand QuoteI thought the lock in fulls were fine, smooth ride and do lock in. But the square edges on such a wide wheel made it feel a bit clunky for flip tricks and getting a little tech. Not a dealbreaker by any means but if I was gonna ride a wheel that wide I'd definitely prefer the more rounded edges on the radial full to make things feel just a tad more manageable.[close][close]
Sounds like a you problem, haven't heard of anybody else having this issue.
Even if it was more widespread, thats more due to an unlucky batch coming from the factory and not really relevant to the pros/cons of the actual wheel shape.[close]
I was just saying, the fact that I got two different sets, from different places, in different duros, it shows that RFs have a quality issue. The pros/cons of the shape don't matter if they're defective lol[close]
No there wasn't there were a few of us mentioning other Spitfire issues we had at times and how good their warranty is. You have to remember that you're at the upper weight limit of most skate gear which will exacerbate any potential flaws.[close]
The upper weight limit? Skateboarding has a weight limit? When did this start? We got new skate rules? The skate police are here, everyone! Seriously, what the fuck does that even mean?
And how is an oversized bearing seat, likely noticed before ever so much as rolling on the defective wheel, a weight issue? I’m real lost on this one.
I had an issue a few years back with a spitfire wheel that the bearings were offset in and they couldn’t even go on my axle as a result, was that because I had a chicken sandwich at lunch today?
LebowskisRug, I’ve always thought you’ve done a pretty good job at tying the room together, but everything’s feeling a little disconnected at the moment.[close]
Ya he stared his weight is 245- that's over the limit for many types of bicycles even or to the point where you are limited to specific materials. There's no limit but you can't tell me that a deck, trucks, and wheels will behave the same.
In college I started gaining weight for powerlifting and at around 210-215 I had to effectively quit because I'd bend axles, break decks, snap kingpins, and generally fuck up gear fast. Quality is better than 2006, but boards are still pieces of plywood and urethane is still a compressible, pliable material.
A normal skater is 145-165 so do the math- it's highly likely that maybe a bearing seat that holds fine for normal skaters might slip for someone larger as they exert more force.
The fact that it happened in 2 wheels from 2 places is merely coincidence since it one of the most popular shapes at the moment and we aren't hearing about it more.
The "normal skater" thing was pretty wack.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteThat's cute, a me problem. There were multiple folks talking about it in the wheel thread. So clearly you're not paying attention. Which is fine really.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI had two pairs of RFs back-to-back. Both had oversized bearing seats.Expand QuoteI thought the lock in fulls were fine, smooth ride and do lock in. But the square edges on such a wide wheel made it feel a bit clunky for flip tricks and getting a little tech. Not a dealbreaker by any means but if I was gonna ride a wheel that wide I'd definitely prefer the more rounded edges on the radial full to make things feel just a tad more manageable.[close][close]
Sounds like a you problem, haven't heard of anybody else having this issue.
Even if it was more widespread, thats more due to an unlucky batch coming from the factory and not really relevant to the pros/cons of the actual wheel shape.[close]
I was just saying, the fact that I got two different sets, from different places, in different duros, it shows that RFs have a quality issue. The pros/cons of the shape don't matter if they're defective lol[close]
No there wasn't there were a few of us mentioning other Spitfire issues we had at times and how good their warranty is. You have to remember that you're at the upper weight limit of most skate gear which will exacerbate any potential flaws.[close]
The upper weight limit? Skateboarding has a weight limit? When did this start? We got new skate rules? The skate police are here, everyone! Seriously, what the fuck does that even mean?
And how is an oversized bearing seat, likely noticed before ever so much as rolling on the defective wheel, a weight issue? I’m real lost on this one.
I had an issue a few years back with a spitfire wheel that the bearings were offset in and they couldn’t even go on my axle as a result, was that because I had a chicken sandwich at lunch today?
LebowskisRug, I’ve always thought you’ve done a pretty good job at tying the room together, but everything’s feeling a little disconnected at the moment.[close]
Ya he stared his weight is 245- that's over the limit for many types of bicycles even or to the point where you are limited to specific materials. There's no limit but you can't tell me that a deck, trucks, and wheels will behave the same.
In college I started gaining weight for powerlifting and at around 210-215 I had to effectively quit because I'd bend axles, break decks, snap kingpins, and generally fuck up gear fast. Quality is better than 2006, but boards are still pieces of plywood and urethane is still a compressible, pliable material.
A normal skater is 145-165 so do the math- it's highly likely that maybe a bearing seat that holds fine for normal skaters might slip for someone larger as they exert more force.
The fact that it happened in 2 wheels from 2 places is merely coincidence since it one of the most popular shapes at the moment and we aren't hearing about it more.[close]
That’s bullshit though.
“So do the math,” first of all, fuck you. I’m 270 lbs, that shit has never happened to a wheel I’ve skated. I’ve never bent an axle. I have certainly broken boards from improper landings, but that’s it. To try and say a 99 or 97 duro wheel is not able to withstand his cruising weight is ridiculous. Sometimes wheels are just defective. It is insanely bad luck that he got two shit sets in a row though. It is also worth mentioning that there are plenty of skateboarders of all sizes, and Mr. OhioGuy is not on the extreme end of that range.
He said he doesn’t really do much other than cruise and no comply tricks, he isn’t jumping down shit, and the forces he is putting on the wheels, while constant, are less forceful than impacts that your definition of a “normal skater” puts on equipment when they jump down anything higher than a foot off the ground. He’s using equipment made to take a hell of a lot more abuse than he’s putting it through. Quite honestly, if a part of his wheel was going to fail due to his weight, the most likely culprit would be a thin plastic bearing cage rather than a wheel, since they’re so fragile, but we’re not talking about bearing issues.
Perhaps, he’s right, and there are quality issues with a recently released shape, as it is not uncommon for first production runs of things to have a larger amount of defects than an established shape. You and all of your excellent cycling knowledge that you’re trying to extrapolate to skateboard products should surely know that. He’s not upset his $10k carbon road bike can’t handle the stresses, it’s his urethane wheel made to jump down stairs sets.
Also, where exactly did you come up with what a “normal skater” weighs? What exactly is a “normal skater”? Where is your research? As I assume if you were to try and quantify what “normal” is, you would surely have cited studies to back that up. I would throw you a bone and say perhaps you mean “average”, as normal is a setting on the dryer, but even then I would argue that your deemed weight is not in fact average, unless of course you have the resources to back that up.
Fucking get real, and perhaps you sir, should do the fucking math.
For the record I’m 145 and have had similar issues with the radial fulls. The sets I’ve had did have bearing seat issues. Warranty was great but eventually had them send me classic f4. I’m on tablets now but missing a wider wheel.
Recently went from 60mm, ventures and risers to Indy’s, 55mm and no risers. I like the somewhat lower setup but miss the bigger wheel for crust. I ride stock loose (no adjustment). Want to get conical fulls but I wish they made them in 55. Anyone ride 56 CF with Indys and no riser? Is the wheelbite gonna be too much?
No need for risers with 56mm wheels, really. Just tighten the trucks adequately.
Were F4 og classics not selling well? Why aren't they making them again? Were they too similar to conicals? Superficial reasons for really wanting a set but I liked the black ring on the non swirl side of the wheels and I really want them to restock.
Expand QuoteNo need for risers with 56mm wheels, really. Just tighten the trucks adequately.[close]
Depends on what (height) trucks you have, and how much you like to, well, turn.
Expand QuoteNo need for risers with 56mm wheels, really. Just tighten the trucks adequately.[close]
Depends on what (height) trucks you have, and how much you like to, well, turn.
For the record I’m 145 and have had similar issues with the radial fulls. The sets I’ve had did have bearing seat issues. Warranty was great but eventually had them send me classic f4. I’m on tablets now but missing a wider wheel.
Recently went from 60mm, ventures and risers to Indy’s, 55mm and no risers. I like the somewhat lower setup but miss the bigger wheel for crust. I ride stock loose (no adjustment). Want to get conical fulls but I wish they made them in 55. Anyone ride 56 CF with Indys and no riser? Is the wheelbite gonna be too much?
Expand QuoteFor the record I’m 145 and have had similar issues with the radial fulls. The sets I’ve had did have bearing seat issues. Warranty was great but eventually had them send me classic f4. I’m on tablets now but missing a wider wheel.
Recently went from 60mm, ventures and risers to Indy’s, 55mm and no risers. I like the somewhat lower setup but miss the bigger wheel for crust. I ride stock loose (no adjustment). Want to get conical fulls but I wish they made them in 55. Anyone ride 56 CF with Indys and no riser? Is the wheelbite gonna be too much?[close]
conical full 55's are out there. usually reserved for signature drops, AVE's were the last ones i remember.
Spitfire is making too many wheels right now, imho. And not enough of the right ones.
Expand QuoteSpitfire is making too many wheels right now, imho. And not enough of the right ones.[close]
This 100 %. They need to stop the wide/full madness and introduce something like the Bones V1 and V5 shapes.
I mean, Bones does good with five shapes across the board.
i think those super wide wheels is how people are doing such long smith grinds on ledges.
wait so there is Radial AND Radial slim? I thought those were the same thing. and then Radial Full was the fat one. So there are 3 different choices for radial (historically)? :o
Expand Quotewait so there is Radial AND Radial slim? I thought those were the same thing. and then Radial Full was the fat one. So there are 3 different choices for radial (historically)? :o[close]
Radial Slim
Radial
Radial Full
Please come back Radial Slim...
Shops doing $42-45 for F4s now? Crazy like...
Agree on needing to bring back the Radial Slim. One of their best shapes ever.
but who the hell swears by tabletsAt least here in Prague tablets are kinda popular.
really tho
If any of your USA based locals has gets the f4 og classics in and sells online please let me know (after you get your set of course). My local says it won't restock spits for awhile so my conscience is clear.
Finally swapped back to F4 from the X99.
Expand QuoteFor the record I’m 145 and have had similar issues with the radial fulls. The sets I’ve had did have bearing seat issues. Warranty was great but eventually had them send me classic f4. I’m on tablets now but missing a wider wheel.
Recently went from 60mm, ventures and risers to Indy’s, 55mm and no risers. I like the somewhat lower setup but miss the bigger wheel for crust. I ride stock loose (no adjustment). Want to get conical fulls but I wish they made them in 55. Anyone ride 56 CF with Indys and no riser? Is the wheelbite gonna be too much?[close]
No need for risers with 56mm wheels, really. Just tighten the trucks adequately.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteFor the record I’m 145 and have had similar issues with the radial fulls. The sets I’ve had did have bearing seat issues. Warranty was great but eventually had them send me classic f4. I’m on tablets now but missing a wider wheel.
Recently went from 60mm, ventures and risers to Indy’s, 55mm and no risers. I like the somewhat lower setup but miss the bigger wheel for crust. I ride stock loose (no adjustment). Want to get conical fulls but I wish they made them in 55. Anyone ride 56 CF with Indys and no riser? Is the wheelbite gonna be too much?[close]
No need for risers with 56mm wheels, really. Just tighten the trucks adequately.[close]
. i get away with a 60 all day at factory tight venture highs but a thin shock pad dont hurt since i go for cut bushings. i get minimal wheel bite still.
same with ace classic. thunder is a different story. im sub 55 with thunder unless risers.
indy 139s i ran 56 connie full no risers. its what i came back to street skating on.
its just best with venture in my opinion. with the indy soft white replacement bushings and a 3 ply riser i can stand full weight and bounce on the rail im not getting wheel bite with 58mm dragons.
im like 155-160.
im about to order wheels soon tho. probably a complete. 6.1s 57-60mm spits 99a. i kinda wanna get a ps stix or the bbs but im thinking does powell make a 9" flight deck. i wanna try one really badly.
i just looked up up
Id go color burst in 8.75 or 9
The Flight wheel base is on those boards 15". Id have to drill it back to like a quarter inch prob. Im only 5'7" Tre flips would be fucking insanely hot and heavy on a 15" wb with 60mm wheels and 6.1s
Finally swapped back to F4 from the X99. They were the best of the x series, but they still grab on whatever square coping the parks by me use. I can hold a good noseslide on the same ledge but when it's pinching it slows or grabs and I don't see a need to apply even more wax/be that dude.
Overall I'd compare the 53 X99 V5 to 52 F4 classics in terms of speed on smooth ground, definitely don't slide as well, but still enough, and honestly just felt less fun to ride. They're faster on Asphalt, but I think a 53 classic or radial will be close enough for what I'm usually skating.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CzKqAeJMoJT/?img_index=1
looks like Jason Lee riding the Spitfire OG Classics here with them turned inside out. it makes them look a lot like what our Conical Fulls look like now. you can see on the inner wall though with the graphic it looks more tucked in.
they look SICK AF in photos i have to say
especially with those green AWAKEs ;D
I just grabbed some from marriage skateshop's site if anyone needs an f4 og classicExpand QuoteIf any of your USA based locals has gets the f4 og classics in and sells online please let me know (after you get your set of course). My local says it won't restock spits for awhile so my conscience is clear.[close]
I am guessing if they just put up a post about them, then there should be a ton of them out everywhere soon enough, but as per the higher price and maybe some shops already having too much stock, some places might not be ordering them specifically and holding off for the next main order. Who knows really, but I think there will be plenty available pretty soon.
Interesting if they do have all sizes, as per that post. The catalog info was more just for 54, 58 and 60 mm from a while back, but there might have been so much interest, they had to do all sizes - 52, 53, 54, 55, 56, 58 and 60 showing there.
Expand Quotehttps://www.instagram.com/p/CzKqAeJMoJT/?img_index=1
looks like Jason Lee riding the Spitfire OG Classics here with them turned inside out. it makes them look a lot like what our Conical Fulls look like now. you can see on the inner wall though with the graphic it looks more tucked in.
they look SICK AF in photos i have to say
especially with those green AWAKEs ;D[close]
look like Dogtown K-9's too me, they were very popular around this time. they were kinda of a lockin, before lockins were a thing.
Expand QuoteExpand Quotehttps://www.instagram.com/p/CzKqAeJMoJT/?img_index=1
looks like Jason Lee riding the Spitfire OG Classics here with them turned inside out. it makes them look a lot like what our Conical Fulls look like now. you can see on the inner wall though with the graphic it looks more tucked in.
they look SICK AF in photos i have to say
especially with those green AWAKEs ;D[close]
look like Dogtown K-9's too me, they were very popular around this time. they were kinda of a lockin, before lockins were a thing.[close]
also could've been WI Gizmos. i wasn't cool enough back then to have either of those wheels but my friend was in full head 2 toe Jason Lee cosplay back then and he would see those guys around Orange County, i remember him riding a lot of Jason Lee boards with K9's back then.
(https://i.imgur.com/kIqT9oO.jpg)
interesting... so pros riding a World Industries wheel back then must mean they were actually decent too? I just figured Jason would be riding the wheels he got so it never occurred to me he would have been riding a Dogtown wheel (or was he sponsored by them?)
By the time i started skating (1998), Deck Company Wheels were basically seen as illegal / garbage (took me a few years to clue in i think...)
Did anyone grab a screenshot of the orange scifi f4s dropping this week?
Expand QuoteDid anyone grab a screenshot of the orange scifi f4s dropping this week?[close]
please continue. i have a soft spot for orange spitfire. what shape, size?
Expand QuoteDid anyone grab a screenshot of the orange scifi f4s dropping this week?[close]
please continue. i have a soft spot for orange spitfire. what shape, size?
Did anyone grab a screenshot of the orange scifi f4s dropping this week?
that font is what the inside of classics normally looks like but that doesnt mean anything. the person i stole the image from told me they are conical fulls.Expand QuoteDid anyone grab a screenshot of the orange scifi f4s dropping this week?[close]
IF anyone from spitfire is reading this, If you sold an all orange F4 Conical Full in any size between 54-58, I'll buy about 10 sets of them
Expand Quotehttps://www.instagram.com/p/CzKqAeJMoJT/?img_index=1
looks like Jason Lee riding the Spitfire OG Classics here with them turned inside out. it makes them look a lot like what our Conical Fulls look like now. you can see on the inner wall though with the graphic it looks more tucked in.
they look SICK AF in photos i have to say
especially with those green AWAKEs ;D[close]
Aren't these Indys? Or maybe Trackers? They definitely don't have the Venture truss.
look like Dogtown K-9's too me, they were very popular around this time. they were kinda of a lockin, before lockins were a thing.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CzKqAeJMoJT/?img_index=1
looks like Jason Lee riding the Spitfire OG Classics here with them turned inside out. it makes them look a lot like what our Conical Fulls look like now. you can see on the inner wall though with the graphic it looks more tucked in.
they look SICK AF in photos i have to say
especially with those green AWAKEs ;D
Aren't these Indys? Or maybe Trackers? They definitely don't have the Venture truss.
Expand Quotehttps://www.instagram.com/p/CzKqAeJMoJT/?img_index=1
looks like Jason Lee riding the Spitfire OG Classics here with them turned inside out. it makes them look a lot like what our Conical Fulls look like now. you can see on the inner wall though with the graphic it looks more tucked in.
they look SICK AF in photos i have to say
especially with those green AWAKEs ;D[close]Expand Quote
Aren't these Indys? Or maybe Trackers? They definitely don't have the Venture truss.[close]
yeah, indy's with a venture tshirt
Expand QuoteExpand Quotehttps://www.instagram.com/p/CzKqAeJMoJT/?img_index=1
looks like Jason Lee riding the Spitfire OG Classics here with them turned inside out. it makes them look a lot like what our Conical Fulls look like now. you can see on the inner wall though with the graphic it looks more tucked in.
they look SICK AF in photos i have to say
especially with those green AWAKEs ;D[close]Expand Quote
Aren't these Indys? Or maybe Trackers? They definitely don't have the Venture truss.[close]
yeah, indy's with a venture tshirt[close]
those are ventures. well i’m pretty sure. i don’t remember them being green, but they didn’t have the easily identifiable hanger that we all know and love and recognize as the coolest, right from the jump.
my buddy had ventures on his jim t super hero board, and they looked like the ones j.lee is on here, minus the green
About to purchase some Lock in fulls. Tell me why I should not.
Haha. ;D I understand you're not a fan of wide/ full wheels, Sedition. You might be right. I landed my first 360 flip post injury (April) on some worn down classic 55s today... why mess with a good thing...
Expand QuoteAbout to purchase some Lock in fulls. Tell me why I should not.[close]
Because that some turboclown shit right there, that's what that is.
I wholeheartedly agree with about 99,6% of the stuff you post on here, but your take on bigger contact patches always infuriates me to no end (i.e., marginally disappoints me).
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I wholeheartedly agree with about 99,6% of the stuff you post on here, but your take on bigger contact patches always infuriates me to no end (i.e., marginally disappoints me).[close]
LOL. Thanks, I think. :) No question, baboon-sized contact patches unquestionably provide a smoother ride. Giant pants are easier to move in, too. Tiny wheels are lighter and give you a lower center of gravity, too. Hey 1993, how you doing? There is a lot of logic in some of the absurdities skateboarding has embraced. To me, it seems like we might be in one of "those periods" right now. History may prove me wrong, too.
Skateboarding is a subjective experience. As such, no one owes anyone any kind of justification or explanation about what kind of equipment they use, how they skate, why they skate, what they skate, what they wear/don’t wear while skating, or why they do any of those things. Anyone who dogmatically says what skateboarding is, or is not, is only seeking to justify their own insecurities or manufactured standards. Big-ass wheels are not for me. They are, however, making lots of people happy, and that's great. I certainly throw in over-the-top rhetoric about big wheels, but just because it's fun, and mostly all tongue-in-cheek. Ultimately, it's like arguing over the best flavor of ice cream (don't even get me started on what a social atrocity mint chocolate is). Whatever floats your boat is awesome, and I'm certainly no one to enforce dogma on anyone else.
That said, Spitfire makes too many wheels right now. And they should really bring back Radial Slims. :)
mint chocolate chip is a travesty. it’s gross.
Spitfire makes too many wheels right now. And they should really bring back Radial Slims.
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Spitfire makes too many wheels right now. And they should really bring back Radial Slims.[close]
And mint chocolate is just an ugly misstep in the dietary evolution of homo sapiens.
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I wholeheartedly agree with about 99,6% of the stuff you post on here, but your take on bigger contact patches always infuriates me to no end (i.e., marginally disappoints me).[close]
LOL. Thanks, I think. :) No question, baboon-sized contact patches unquestionably provide a smoother ride. Giant pants are easier to move in, too. Tiny wheels are lighter and give you a lower center of gravity, too. Hey 1993, how you doing? There is a lot of logic in some of the absurdities skateboarding has embraced. To me, it seems like we might be in one of "those periods" right now. History may prove me wrong, too.
Skateboarding is a subjective experience. As such, no one owes anyone any kind of justification or explanation about what kind of equipment they use, how they skate, why they skate, what they skate, what they wear/don’t wear while skating, or why they do any of those things. Anyone who dogmatically says what skateboarding is, or is not, is only seeking to justify their own insecurities or manufactured standards. Big-ass wheels are not for me. They are, however, making lots of people happy, and that's great. I certainly throw in over-the-top rhetoric about big wheels, but just because it's fun, and mostly all tongue-in-cheek. Ultimately, it's like arguing over the best flavor of ice cream (don't even get me started on what a social atrocity mint chocolate is). Whatever floats your boat is awesome, and I'm certainly no one to enforce dogma on anyone else.
That said, Spitfire makes too many wheels right now. And they should really bring back Radial Slims. :)[close]
this is well written
it is fun to make these declarations (boards over 32” aren’t regular skateboards**) and talk trash about it.
publicly shunnedExpand QuoteExpand Quote
Spitfire makes too many wheels right now. And they should really bring back Radial Slims.[close]
And mint chocolate is just an ugly misstep in the dietary evolution of homo sapiens.[close]
Seriously. It’s like someone actually thought, “I’ve got this really great Cadbury chocolate bar, but you know what would make it taste better? A nice AquaFreah frosting on top. Yum!” These people should be exiled.
I am a friend to all ice creams. And I will stand up for mint chocolate chip.
I also like smaller wheels because I am dainty. The big wheel is fun to skate on, less so when you have to crouch and actually pop.
@Uncle Flea did you see the new orange wheels? They're kind of swirly, not a full on orange is it.
(https://i.ibb.co/PN8JQ11/wheels.jpg)
Getting overly attached to a specific type of gear and incessantly arguing over minute differences we can barely tell apart in the real world is what shoes & gear is for, isn't it? So fuck all y'all and your slim-ass wheels. Have fun getting pitched by pebbles I wouldn't even notice. I'll be over here... struggling to hang on to my meager bag of flip tricks, secretly wishing I wasn't such a clumsy ogre who lacks the skill to skate slimmer wheels ;) .
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Getting overly attached to a specific type of gear and incessantly arguing over minute differences we can barely tell apart in the real world is what shoes & gear is for, isn't it? So fuck all y'all and your slim-ass wheels. Have fun getting pitched by pebbles I wouldn't even notice. I'll be over here... struggling to hang on to my meager bag of flip tricks, secretly wishing I wasn't such a clumsy ogre who lacks the skill to skate slimmer wheels ;) .[close]
LOL! When my fillings vibrate out of my teeth, at a crusty DIY, due to my microscopic contact patch, I will promise to let you roll over them with your bulldozer wheels (and not even register that you hit anything). And then we can have a beer together, and jointly make fun of the dude with the Hook-Ups deck. :) ;D ;D ;D
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In case the Sci Fi instagram story was not saved or seen, here is the pic.
Also the link to their site for wheels, which I realise has all the better pics anyway.
https://scififantasy.co/
Classic natural 52mm wheels
https://scififantasy.co/products/spitfire-time-keeper-wheels-52mm-natural
Conical Full orange swirl 54mm wheels
https://scififantasy.co/products/spitfire-time-keeper-wheels-54mm-orange
(https://i.ibb.co/K9C2WRJ/Spitfire-Sci-Fi-Wheels-2023.jpg) (https://ibb.co/2jXvdmT)
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Getting overly attached to a specific type of gear and incessantly arguing over minute differences we can barely tell apart in the real world is what shoes & gear is for, isn't it? So fuck all y'all and your slim-ass wheels. Have fun getting pitched by pebbles I wouldn't even notice. I'll be over here... struggling to hang on to my meager bag of flip tricks, secretly wishing I wasn't such a clumsy ogre who lacks the skill to skate slimmer wheels ;) .[close]
LOL! When my fillings vibrate out of my teeth, at a crusty DIY, due to my microscopic contact patch, I will promise to let you roll over them with your bulldozer wheels (and not even register that you hit anything). And then we can have a beer together, and jointly make fun of the dude with the Hook-Ups deck. :) ;D ;D ;D
Anyway, no doubt my OCD will initiate a complete melt down when I can't rotate these asymmetrical buggers but I wanted to try them at least once....
And for the record…I might be riding a set of 53mm Radials right now…and kind of liking them. :)
Which wheels would be better for winter (indoor skatepark) - 101a 52mm CFs or 97a 54mm Classics? Now I’m riding 99a 53mm OG Classics non-f4 worn down to about 51mm and apart from some flatspots they feel great. Previously had 99a 53mm F4 Classics and they also felt good worn down. I think that 52mm CFs would give me that OGs worn down feel right from the start, but also kinda worried about the 101a being to slippery. On the other hand 54mm 97a Classics being softer might worn down quicker to that goldi-locks zone, but I don’t want to deal with sticking on grinds because of the softer duro.
How is everyone liking the radials?
Thinking of switching from my usual 54 classics/54 conicals to something different.
Expand QuoteHow is everyone liking the radials?
Thinking of switching from my usual 54 classics/54 conicals to something different.[close]
Do you like how your classics feel after they've worn down a few mm?
If so that's what a radial feels like. My favorite Spitfire shape for sure
How is everyone liking the radials?
Thinking of switching from my usual 54 classics/54 conicals to something different.
Expand QuoteHow is everyone liking the radials?
Thinking of switching from my usual 54 classics/54 conicals to something different.[close]
I find them heavier, and clunkier than my classics. They look huge on my board. They lock-in a tad better than Classics, and also ride a bit smoother on crusty stuff. They are bit more grippy, too. Everything has its trade-offs and respective +/- aspects. It’s just a matter of determining which factors work best for you. That said, I would certainly encourage you to try them.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteHow is everyone liking the radials?
Thinking of switching from my usual 54 classics/54 conicals to something different.[close]
Do you like how your classics feel after they've worn down a few mm?
If so that's what a radial feels like. My favorite Spitfire shape for sure[close]
This 100%. I have had both 52 Radials and worn down 54 classics at the same time. The classics are like 51.5, but same width as the radials almost. They're not precisely the same, but close enough.
Spitfire Classic Fulls, however, are precisely the same when worn. I've got a set of 52s on ice I'm scared to skate because they're the god tier wheel Spitfire never makes anymore.
Expand QuoteDid anyone grab a screenshot of the orange scifi f4s dropping this week?[close]
(https://i.imgur.com/S3qEhS2.jpg)
no side profile ;(
that font is what the inside of classics normally looks like but that doesnt mean anything. the person i stole the image from told me they are conical fulls.
I am a friend to all ice creams. And I will stand up for mint chocolate chip.
I also like smaller wheels because I am dainty. The big wheel is fun to skate on, less so when you have to crouch and actually pop.
@Uncle Flea did you see the new orange wheels? They're kind of swirly, not a full on orange is it.
(https://i.ibb.co/PN8JQ11/wheels.jpg)
Also I can no longer abide Vanilla ice cream. I'm so sick of going to the grocery store and there's a whole case full of vanilla bullshit.
All the good stuffs gone.
White people need to let go one the lie.
Brownie batter is Americas favorite ice cream.
Ben and Jerry's need to stop fuckin around with this core shit.
Just fix the fuckin machine. Stop milking that broken ass shit.
We all know it was an error making that duck shit
Expand QuoteAlso I can no longer abide Vanilla ice cream. I'm so sick of going to the grocery store and there's a whole case full of vanilla bullshit.
All the good stuffs gone.
White people need to let go one the lie.
Brownie batter is Americas favorite ice cream.
Ben and Jerry's need to stop fuckin around with this core shit.
Just fix the fuckin machine. Stop milking that broken ass shit.
We all know it was an error making that duck shit[close]
What about a good sorbet? So good you don't realize its not ice cream? Cocunut Lemon Saffron sorbet? It makes me feel like I'm not being cheated. Comes at a price though.
i bought the big red t funk radial full 60mm 97a
i'm dumb i dont know how i will be able to ride such big wheels, but i had to, they look so great
Thanks for the feedback on radials.
Going to grab a pair of 54’s and see how I like em.
Side note, do radial fulls only come in 97a?
Expand QuoteThanks for the feedback on radials.
Going to grab a pair of 54’s and see how I like em.
Side note, do radial fulls only come in 97a?[close]
also a pair of 99s just dropped. curren caples model 56mm
https://www.tactics.com/spitfire/curren-caples-pro-formula-four-radial-full-skateboard-wheels/burn-squad-99d
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteThanks for the feedback on radials.
Going to grab a pair of 54’s and see how I like em.
Side note, do radial fulls only come in 97a?[close]
also a pair of 99s just dropped. curren caples model 56mm
https://www.tactics.com/spitfire/curren-caples-pro-formula-four-radial-full-skateboard-wheels/burn-squad-99d[close]
The Kader Radial Full wheel first came out in 57 and 60mm in 99 duro a while back, Loud Clouds being the wheel name, then the more recent ones being the Puffs.
It seems like we still have lots of the Kader Puffs 54, 56 and 59 mm size 99 duro Radial Full wheels in Australia, along with the 54, 56 and 58mm 97 duro Radial Full wheels, so there are a few options there, along with the new Curren wheels as mentioned 56mm 99 duro.
Not sure if they are still all readily available elsewhere, but worth looking if you want any of those sizes.
Prior to that, the Eternals came in 56 and 58mm, 99 duro Radial Full wheels from Spring 2022 which were quite popular and didn't have anyones name on them that some people didn't want to ride.
https://www.spitfirewheels.com/spring-2022/
(https://www.spitfirewheels.com/spring22/sf-sp22-d1-eternals-06.jpg)
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteThanks for the feedback on radials.
Going to grab a pair of 54’s and see how I like em.
Side note, do radial fulls only come in 97a?[close]
also a pair of 99s just dropped. curren caples model 56mm
https://www.tactics.com/spitfire/curren-caples-pro-formula-four-radial-full-skateboard-wheels/burn-squad-99d[close]
The Kader Radial Full wheel first came out in 57 and 60mm in 99 duro a while back, Loud Clouds being the wheel name, then the more recent ones being the Puffs.
It seems like we still have lots of the Kader Puffs 54, 56 and 59 mm size 99 duro Radial Full wheels in Australia, along with the 54, 56 and 58mm 97 duro Radial Full wheels, so there are a few options there, along with the new Curren wheels as mentioned 56mm 99 duro.
Not sure if they are still all readily available elsewhere, but worth looking if you want any of those sizes.
Prior to that, the Eternals came in 56 and 58mm, 99 duro Radial Full wheels from Spring 2022 which were quite popular and didn't have anyones name on them that some people didn't want to ride.
https://www.spitfirewheels.com/spring-2022/
(https://www.spitfirewheels.com/spring22/sf-sp22-d1-eternals-06.jpg)[close]
I picked these up way back when in 56. I've probably put them on 10 different setup combinations since, still trying to figure out how to enjoy them.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteThanks for the feedback on radials.
Going to grab a pair of 54’s and see how I like em.
Side note, do radial fulls only come in 97a?[close]
also a pair of 99s just dropped. curren caples model 56mm
https://www.tactics.com/spitfire/curren-caples-pro-formula-four-radial-full-skateboard-wheels/burn-squad-99d[close]
The Kader Radial Full wheel first came out in 57 and 60mm in 99 duro a while back, Loud Clouds being the wheel name, then the more recent ones being the Puffs.
It seems like we still have lots of the Kader Puffs 54, 56 and 59 mm size 99 duro Radial Full wheels in Australia, along with the 54, 56 and 58mm 97 duro Radial Full wheels, so there are a few options there, along with the new Curren wheels as mentioned 56mm 99 duro.
Not sure if they are still all readily available elsewhere, but worth looking if you want any of those sizes.
Prior to that, the Eternals came in 56 and 58mm, 99 duro Radial Full wheels from Spring 2022 which were quite popular and didn't have anyones name on them that some people didn't want to ride.
https://www.spitfirewheels.com/spring-2022/
(https://www.spitfirewheels.com/spring22/sf-sp22-d1-eternals-06.jpg)[close]
I picked these up way back when in 56. I've probably put them on 10 different setup combinations since, still trying to figure out how to enjoy them.[close]
skating mine on venture v-lights, mostly for hills and some very brief flatground on the way to the next hill.
love the extra pop, speed, and the rolling over bad riding surfaces
i mean you skate big acesExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteThanks for the feedback on radials.
Going to grab a pair of 54’s and see how I like em.
Side note, do radial fulls only come in 97a?[close]
also a pair of 99s just dropped. curren caples model 56mm
https://www.tactics.com/spitfire/curren-caples-pro-formula-four-radial-full-skateboard-wheels/burn-squad-99d[close]
The Kader Radial Full wheel first came out in 57 and 60mm in 99 duro a while back, Loud Clouds being the wheel name, then the more recent ones being the Puffs.
It seems like we still have lots of the Kader Puffs 54, 56 and 59 mm size 99 duro Radial Full wheels in Australia, along with the 54, 56 and 58mm 97 duro Radial Full wheels, so there are a few options there, along with the new Curren wheels as mentioned 56mm 99 duro.
Not sure if they are still all readily available elsewhere, but worth looking if you want any of those sizes.
Prior to that, the Eternals came in 56 and 58mm, 99 duro Radial Full wheels from Spring 2022 which were quite popular and didn't have anyones name on them that some people didn't want to ride.
https://www.spitfirewheels.com/spring-2022/
(https://www.spitfirewheels.com/spring22/sf-sp22-d1-eternals-06.jpg)[close]
I picked these up way back when in 56. I've probably put them on 10 different setup combinations since, still trying to figure out how to enjoy them.[close]
skating mine on venture v-lights, mostly for hills and some very brief flatground on the way to the next hill.
love the extra pop, speed, and the rolling over bad riding surfaces[close]
Do you mean you get more pop with those wheels? :D I doubt, I have them too and theyre heavy af.
i mean you skate big acesExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteThanks for the feedback on radials.
Going to grab a pair of 54’s and see how I like em.
Side note, do radial fulls only come in 97a?[close]
also a pair of 99s just dropped. curren caples model 56mm
https://www.tactics.com/spitfire/curren-caples-pro-formula-four-radial-full-skateboard-wheels/burn-squad-99d[close]
The Kader Radial Full wheel first came out in 57 and 60mm in 99 duro a while back, Loud Clouds being the wheel name, then the more recent ones being the Puffs.
It seems like we still have lots of the Kader Puffs 54, 56 and 59 mm size 99 duro Radial Full wheels in Australia, along with the 54, 56 and 58mm 97 duro Radial Full wheels, so there are a few options there, along with the new Curren wheels as mentioned 56mm 99 duro.
Not sure if they are still all readily available elsewhere, but worth looking if you want any of those sizes.
Prior to that, the Eternals came in 56 and 58mm, 99 duro Radial Full wheels from Spring 2022 which were quite popular and didn't have anyones name on them that some people didn't want to ride.
https://www.spitfirewheels.com/spring-2022/
(https://www.spitfirewheels.com/spring22/sf-sp22-d1-eternals-06.jpg)[close]
I picked these up way back when in 56. I've probably put them on 10 different setup combinations since, still trying to figure out how to enjoy them.[close]
skating mine on venture v-lights, mostly for hills and some very brief flatground on the way to the next hill.
love the extra pop, speed, and the rolling over bad riding surfaces[close]
Do you mean you get more pop with those wheels? :D I doubt, I have them too and theyre heavy af.[close]
not just the wheels that are heavy there
You should do youtube gear review. That was very entertaining to read. Ben D hung it up so there's an empty throne, king.Expand Quotei mean you skate big acesExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteThanks for the feedback on radials.
Going to grab a pair of 54’s and see how I like em.
Side note, do radial fulls only come in 97a?[close]
also a pair of 99s just dropped. curren caples model 56mm
https://www.tactics.com/spitfire/curren-caples-pro-formula-four-radial-full-skateboard-wheels/burn-squad-99d[close]
The Kader Radial Full wheel first came out in 57 and 60mm in 99 duro a while back, Loud Clouds being the wheel name, then the more recent ones being the Puffs.
It seems like we still have lots of the Kader Puffs 54, 56 and 59 mm size 99 duro Radial Full wheels in Australia, along with the 54, 56 and 58mm 97 duro Radial Full wheels, so there are a few options there, along with the new Curren wheels as mentioned 56mm 99 duro.
Not sure if they are still all readily available elsewhere, but worth looking if you want any of those sizes.
Prior to that, the Eternals came in 56 and 58mm, 99 duro Radial Full wheels from Spring 2022 which were quite popular and didn't have anyones name on them that some people didn't want to ride.
https://www.spitfirewheels.com/spring-2022/
(https://www.spitfirewheels.com/spring22/sf-sp22-d1-eternals-06.jpg)[close]
I picked these up way back when in 56. I've probably put them on 10 different setup combinations since, still trying to figure out how to enjoy them.[close]
skating mine on venture v-lights, mostly for hills and some very brief flatground on the way to the next hill.
love the extra pop, speed, and the rolling over bad riding surfaces[close]
Do you mean you get more pop with those wheels? :D I doubt, I have them too and theyre heavy af.[close]
not just the wheels that are heavy there[close]
so you are correct, sorta: some pop is diminished, say a 360 flip. or worse, the 11th 360 flip attempt.
but ollies, increased height, increased leverage, i get more pop for sure.
if weight equals pop for you, then you might want to start going hollow everything. when i do that, the setup becomes light in a way that doesn’t help me.
back on track, the wheels are fun for skating non-spots. and just ‘skating’. in a parking lot me trying to fling flip tricks, i for sure get bummed. i also don’t like how they look.
i don’t like how i look tho, so fuck it.
another thing, these feel like ‘real wheels’. not cruisers. and they are loud and obnoxious. dogs get pissed, people look up, it’s not some ev in a parking lot vibe.
i would say they ‘know a g is coming’, but it sounds like a skateboard. which i prefer.
Expand Quotei bought the big red t funk radial full 60mm 97a
i'm dumb i dont know how i will be able to ride such big wheels, but i had to, they look so great[close]
I think when you try to skate like T-Funk you really understand the radial fulls, figure you would need a lot of wheel
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteThanks for the feedback on radials.
Going to grab a pair of 54’s and see how I like em.
Side note, do radial fulls only come in 97a?[close]
also a pair of 99s just dropped. curren caples model 56mm
https://www.tactics.com/spitfire/curren-caples-pro-formula-four-radial-full-skateboard-wheels/burn-squad-99d[close]
The Kader Radial Full wheel first came out in 57 and 60mm in 99 duro a while back, Loud Clouds being the wheel name, then the more recent ones being the Puffs.
It seems like we still have lots of the Kader Puffs 54, 56 and 59 mm size 99 duro Radial Full wheels in Australia, along with the 54, 56 and 58mm 97 duro Radial Full wheels, so there are a few options there, along with the new Curren wheels as mentioned 56mm 99 duro.
Not sure if they are still all readily available elsewhere, but worth looking if you want any of those sizes.
Prior to that, the Eternals came in 56 and 58mm, 99 duro Radial Full wheels from Spring 2022 which were quite popular and didn't have anyones name on them that some people didn't want to ride.
https://www.spitfirewheels.com/spring-2022/
(https://www.spitfirewheels.com/spring22/sf-sp22-d1-eternals-06.jpg)
after riding most of the different shapes now, Curious what are your favorite SHAPES?
S Tier: Conical Full - imo the perfect wheel. widest without being too wide. has a nice radius to it as well.
A Tier: Classic, OG Classic, Radial, Conical - all great wheels and very close to perfect for me. In some situations better than the conical fulls - they are just my favorite all around.
B Tier: Radial Slim + Radial Full - overly skinny and overly wide for me!
C Tier: Tablets, dont like the minimal tilt anymore. I liked it when I was a plaza skater.
D Tier: Lock ins, cant stand asymmetrical wheels. do any pros actually ride these?
My problem with the lock ins is the cool graphic is on the wrong side.THIS
x2THISExpand QuoteMy problem with the lock ins is the cool graphic is on the wrong side.[close]
Expand QuoteExpand Quotei bought the big red t funk radial full 60mm 97a
i'm dumb i dont know how i will be able to ride such big wheels, but i had to, they look so great[close]
I think when you try to skate like T-Funk you really understand the radial fulls, figure you would need a lot of wheel[close]
I feel like I'd benefit from a wheel like that probably. My daily step up is the downhill to gap the crosswalk downtown.
I do it several times a day when I'm cruising places or doing chores. On my 58mm dragons it super easy. I don't even gotta push.
When I push I can really fuckin sail one.
I'd like to know.
It's a 97a heavy red fatty.
Do they bounce when you throw your board down?
My dragons do. I got be super mindful when first throwing down.
If your timing is off the board can skip like 45 or make your heel hit the bac
Nothing like an early morning pancake to start your day.
I'm pretty sure I found my next wheel tho. I found out spit makes a regular radial in 57.5.
I'm about that. Im down to trade a mil and a half for a lighter model
I wonder if T funk has tried a skinny 58 or better? You'd be surprised the gain in Ollie distance with the lighter thinner big wheel.
All those kid should try it.
Especially Kader. That kids flip tricks are the most proper in the industry at this moment.
My godt. I was dead right about NYC too. Looks incredible. I felt that switch flip primo. That's exactly what happened to me 2/5 trys
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quotei bought the big red t funk radial full 60mm 97a
i'm dumb i dont know how i will be able to ride such big wheels, but i had to, they look so great[close]
I think when you try to skate like T-Funk you really understand the radial fulls, figure you would need a lot of wheel[close]
I feel like I'd benefit from a wheel like that probably. My daily step up is the downhill to gap the crosswalk downtown.
I do it several times a day when I'm cruising places or doing chores. On my 58mm dragons it super easy. I don't even gotta push.
When I push I can really fuckin sail one.
I'd like to know.
It's a 97a heavy red fatty.
Do they bounce when you throw your board down?
My dragons do. I got be super mindful when first throwing down.
If your timing is off the board can skip like 45 or make your heel hit the bac
Nothing like an early morning pancake to start your day.
I'm pretty sure I found my next wheel tho. I found out spit makes a regular radial in 57.5.
I'm about that. Im down to trade a mil and a half for a lighter model
I wonder if T funk has tried a skinny 58 or better? You'd be surprised the gain in Ollie distance with the lighter thinner big wheel.
All those kid should try it.
Especially Kader. That kids flip tricks are the most proper in the industry at this moment.
My godt. I was dead right about NYC too. Looks incredible. I felt that switch flip primo. That's exactly what happened to me 2/5 trys[close]
I have a set of the 60mm red TFunks and run them at tranny parks and absolutely love them. I used to be an SPF guy at big parks but these are better for me. They keep speed and are grippy where I need them to be.
And no, they don't bounce when I throw the board down at all.
Expand Quoteafter riding most of the different shapes now, Curious what are your favorite SHAPES?
S Tier: Conical Full - imo the perfect wheel. widest without being too wide. has a nice radius to it as well.
A Tier: Classic, OG Classic, Radial, Conical - all great wheels and very close to perfect for me. In some situations better than the conical fulls - they are just my favorite all around.
B Tier: Radial Slim + Radial Full - overly skinny and overly wide for me!
C Tier: Tablets, dont like the minimal tilt anymore. I liked it when I was a plaza skater.
D Tier: Lock ins, cant stand asymmetrical wheels. do any pros actually ride these?[close]
I think you like CF that much you have to put Radials in the same tier. Similar patch, locks-in good enough and with a tiny bit of rounded edge to help you grind further. For me I’d put the classic full in S as well.
Expand QuoteExpand Quoteafter riding most of the different shapes now, Curious what are your favorite SHAPES?
S Tier: Conical Full - imo the perfect wheel. widest without being too wide. has a nice radius to it as well.
A Tier: Classic, OG Classic, Radial, Conical - all great wheels and very close to perfect for me. In some situations better than the conical fulls - they are just my favorite all around.
B Tier: Radial Slim + Radial Full - overly skinny and overly wide for me!
C Tier: Tablets, dont like the minimal tilt anymore. I liked it when I was a plaza skater.
D Tier: Lock ins, cant stand asymmetrical wheels. do any pros actually ride these?[close]
I think you like CF that much you have to put Radials in the same tier. Similar patch, locks-in good enough and with a tiny bit of rounded edge to help you grind further. For me I’d put the classic full in S as well.[close]
I wholeheartedly disagree. The OG classic is my favorite wheel, followed by conical fulls. Those are almost equal to me. Radials are not my jam. I have had a few pairs of them, and just honestly don’t care for them they aren’t bad, they’re just lower on the list of spitfire shapes for me. Radials are middle of the pack for me. Classics are below those, radial fulls and lock ins are probably bottom of the list if I was forced to rank, but I haven’t actually skated either of them, they just look gross to me.
You gotta be stoked on what you’re looking at.
Look good, feel good, skate good.
(https://i.ibb.co/gTR3HJR/IMG-3917.jpg) (https://ibb.co/gTR3HJR)
Got one as a replacement and one for free from Deluxe. I’m all about the Lock-In Fulls now so not sure when I’ll use them.
Honestly I haven’t been thinking about skateboards lately. My current setup could take me through 2024 (with a deck refresh every few months of course).
Still I wouldn’t have known about the warranty if it wasn’t for this thread 🥹
black classics and conical fulls in fall drop 3
(https://i.ibb.co/wwwcjL6/IMG-2472.jpg) (https://ibb.co/vQQXRBz)
(https://i.ibb.co/vXv714c/IMG-2473.jpg) (https://ibb.co/9Z3FnHp)
Do the OG classics come in formula 4 and the old 99a formula? Spit catalogue lists them as F4 but everywhere here in Australia doesn't describe them as F4 and they are cheaper than all the F4 models.
Expand QuoteDo the OG classics come in formula 4 and the old 99a formula? Spit catalogue lists them as F4 but everywhere here in Australia doesn't describe them as F4 and they are cheaper than all the F4 models.[close]
Yes there both the original formula (more common here in Australia at the moment as we are still waiting on the new drop of F4 wheels) and Formula Four in the OG Classics.
The easiest way to tell is on the reverse side, not the swirl graphic side, the Formula Four wheels have a smaller black ring close to the bearings with text in it, but the originals have a larger "Old English" font writing round the side. They both have the swirl graphic in the colour to size on the front.
At least the giveaway is the price too, because original formula wheels are around AU $50 to $70 and the Formula Four wheels are now $79 through to $90 or even $99 for the larger sizes, very few that I have seen online, but still some around if you look hard enough.
Original Formula back in OG Classic:
(https://cdn.shoplightspeed.com/shops/661308/files/53582331/1652x2313x2/spitfire-spitfire-wheel-og-classics-54mm-yellow.jpg)
(https://www.basementskate.com.au/images/P/Spitfire-skateboard-wheels-og-classics-53mm-99a-01.png)
Formula Four back in OG Classic:
(https://skatesociety.com.au/cdn/shop/products/005017211_1_1200x.jpg)
(https://www.routeone.co.uk/cdn/shop/products/001117581.jpg)
* Note - different pro version wheels have different graphics, as per the Grant Taylor OG Classics in 55mm that I have still in shrink wrap. I got them a while back for someone, who ended up going with a different wheel, so these are still available.
(https://quickbutik.imgix.net/8494k/products/6078d462a8913.jpeg)
F4 OG classics are the best shape ever imo.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteDo the OG classics come in formula 4 and the old 99a formula? Spit catalogue lists them as F4 but everywhere here in Australia doesn't describe them as F4 and they are cheaper than all the F4 models.[close]
Yes there both the original formula (more common here in Australia at the moment as we are still waiting on the new drop of F4 wheels) and Formula Four in the OG Classics.
The easiest way to tell is on the reverse side, not the swirl graphic side, the Formula Four wheels have a smaller black ring close to the bearings with text in it, but the originals have a larger "Old English" font writing round the side. They both have the swirl graphic in the colour to size on the front.
At least the giveaway is the price too, because original formula wheels are around AU $50 to $70 and the Formula Four wheels are now $79 through to $90 or even $99 for the larger sizes, very few that I have seen online, but still some around if you look hard enough.
Original Formula back in OG Classic:
(https://cdn.shoplightspeed.com/shops/661308/files/53582331/1652x2313x2/spitfire-spitfire-wheel-og-classics-54mm-yellow.jpg)
(https://www.basementskate.com.au/images/P/Spitfire-skateboard-wheels-og-classics-53mm-99a-01.png)
Formula Four back in OG Classic:
(https://skatesociety.com.au/cdn/shop/products/005017211_1_1200x.jpg)
(https://www.routeone.co.uk/cdn/shop/products/001117581.jpg)
* Note - different pro version wheels have different graphics, as per the Grant Taylor OG Classics in 55mm that I have still in shrink wrap. I got them a while back for someone, who ended up going with a different wheel, so these are still available.
(https://quickbutik.imgix.net/8494k/products/6078d462a8913.jpeg)[close]
Thanks for the info, now I know what to look for I found them at UPS skate shop in Sydney with the black circle in 52mm which I wanted but I'm torn between the OG classic and the standard radials. I typically don't like conicals but wanted something with a wider contact patch without going crazy like the radial full. Might pull the trigger on the OG classics and try them.
Ha. Anyway, I think a narrow wheel trend is imminent. Enough of the huge wheel shit, yes.
Ha. Anyway, I think a narrow wheel trend is imminent. Enough of the huge wheel shit, yes.
F4 OG classics are the best shape ever imo.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteDo the OG classics come in formula 4 and the old 99a formula? Spit catalogue lists them as F4 but everywhere here in Australia doesn't describe them as F4 and they are cheaper than all the F4 models.[close]
Yes there both the original formula (more common here in Australia at the moment as we are still waiting on the new drop of F4 wheels) and Formula Four in the OG Classics.
The easiest way to tell is on the reverse side, not the swirl graphic side, the Formula Four wheels have a smaller black ring close to the bearings with text in it, but the originals have a larger "Old English" font writing round the side. They both have the swirl graphic in the colour to size on the front.
At least the giveaway is the price too, because original formula wheels are around AU $50 to $70 and the Formula Four wheels are now $79 through to $90 or even $99 for the larger sizes, very few that I have seen online, but still some around if you look hard enough.
Original Formula back in OG Classic:
(https://cdn.shoplightspeed.com/shops/661308/files/53582331/1652x2313x2/spitfire-spitfire-wheel-og-classics-54mm-yellow.jpg)
(https://www.basementskate.com.au/images/P/Spitfire-skateboard-wheels-og-classics-53mm-99a-01.png)
Formula Four back in OG Classic:
(https://skatesociety.com.au/cdn/shop/products/005017211_1_1200x.jpg)
(https://www.routeone.co.uk/cdn/shop/products/001117581.jpg)
* Note - different pro version wheels have different graphics, as per the Grant Taylor OG Classics in 55mm that I have still in shrink wrap. I got them a while back for someone, who ended up going with a different wheel, so these are still available.
(https://quickbutik.imgix.net/8494k/products/6078d462a8913.jpeg)[close]
Thanks for the info, now I know what to look for I found them at UPS skate shop in Sydney with the black circle in 52mm which I wanted but I'm torn between the OG classic and the standard radials. I typically don't like conicals but wanted something with a wider contact patch without going crazy like the radial full. Might pull the trigger on the OG classics and try them.[close]
Yeah I don’t know if I want to put tfunk red 60s on my heroin wide boy or nanos in a 97a. I have 64mm dragons I could use but I want a harder wheel.
I have 51mm Classic (worn to 45mm) and 54mm conical full (worn to 49mm). really like both of these wheels... not sure what I want to get next time. I am looking at going back to 1 setup basically so I am thinking of going up to the bigger wheels. really enjoyed how light weight and tippy the small classics felt though.
found some 56mm classic on sale for $50 CAD which is $20 off (most i have ever seen F4 on sale). It looks like if i were to ride this down it would end up same as the 54mm Conical Full... does that make sense? (classics will end up just slightly fatter which is kinda rad...)
also found 52mm on sale same price. maybe i should just get both?! lol!!
I have 51mm Classic (worn to 45mm) and 54mm conical full (worn to 49mm). really like both of these wheels... not sure what I want to get next time. I am looking at going back to 1 setup basically so I am thinking of going up to the bigger wheels. really enjoyed how light weight and tippy the small classics felt though.
found some 56mm classic on sale for $50 CAD which is $20 off (most i have ever seen F4 on sale). It looks like if i were to ride this down it would end up same as the 54mm Conical Full... does that make sense? (classics will end up just slightly fatter which is kinda rad...)
also found 52mm on sale same price. maybe i should just get both?! lol!!
(https://www.spitfirewheels.com/summer23/sf-fof-cf.png)
(https://www.spitfirewheels.com/summer23/sf-classic.png)
anyone know if classic fulls are dead or going to come back? i see theyre available in 80HD but Im hoping they make more soon
Expand Quoteanyone know if classic fulls are dead or going to come back? i see theyre available in 80HD but Im hoping they make more soon[close]
When they first came out, they were everywhere, basic blue graphic in 99 and red graphic in 101 much like Ciassics and Conical Full used to be, but then maybe the interest died off and they don't make them as a regular wheel anymore.
I feel like they are only released as "special editions" now with Max Palmer having some in 54 and 56 mm most recently (this year?), the grey black swirl and only on the board brand website, not through any other supplier.
https://limosineskateboards.com/products/max-palmer-limosine-54-mm-classic-full-formula-4-spitfire-wheel
Site listing has been pulled but the image is still up:
https://limosineskateboards.com/cdn/shop/products/HeroShotLarge54mm_MAx_web.jpg
Before that there were the 52, 53 and 54 mm generic graphic series from last year, but the ones I used to skate a lot of were the Grosso, and Lance wheels in 54, 56 and 58 mm sizes, from 2019 to 2020 era.
id definitely buy a radial full in 52mm
until that day comes, im running these 56s to the ground
This ia just my experience but all of my Dragon shapes beat my RF 97 Spits on any other than perfect skatepark surfaces and they both suck on the latter.
Expand QuoteThis ia just my experience but all of my Dragon shapes beat my RF 97 Spits on any other than perfect skatepark surfaces and they both suck on the latter.[close]
maaaaaan fuck dragons. they are ok, but that’s about it. my experience has been that they have serious drawbacks. the bounce is wicked. the biggest problem for me is that dragons do no slide on these really crusty roads i skate, whereas f4s do slide. no speed check, no dice.
on flat rough pavement, the dragons are nice tho. i appreciate the smoothness, and the quiet.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteThis ia just my experience but all of my Dragon shapes beat my RF 97 Spits on any other than perfect skatepark surfaces and they both suck on the latter.[close]
maaaaaan fuck dragons. they are ok, but that’s about it. my experience has been that they have serious drawbacks. the bounce is wicked. the biggest problem for me is that dragons do no slide on these really crusty roads i skate, whereas f4s do slide. no speed check, no dice.
on flat rough pavement, the dragons are nice tho. i appreciate the smoothness, and the quiet.[close]
Funny that my Spitfires can barely roll over or even get to slides if I try to skate over really crusty spots, both 99 and 97s in their widest shapes. Dragons handle them no problem and I get them to slide almost everywhere. Good if it works for you.
Did anyone catch Ben Degros on the nine club? He kinda alludes to the fact that he’s ridding a Spitfire version of the Dragons. I’ll try to provide a time stamp at some point.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteThis ia just my experience but all of my Dragon shapes beat my RF 97 Spits on any other than perfect skatepark surfaces and they both suck on the latter.[close]
maaaaaan fuck dragons. they are ok, but that’s about it. my experience has been that they have serious drawbacks. the bounce is wicked. the biggest problem for me is that dragons do no slide on these really crusty roads i skate, whereas f4s do slide. no speed check, no dice.
on flat rough pavement, the dragons are nice tho. i appreciate the smoothness, and the quiet.[close]
Funny that my Spitfires can barely roll over or even get to slides if I try to skate over really crusty spots, both 99 and 97s in their widest shapes. Dragons handle them no problem and I get them to slide almost everywhere. Good if it works for you.[close]
this getting them to slide everywhere is nonsense. dragons are good for what they are, but the hyperbole around them is too much.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteThis ia just my experience but all of my Dragon shapes beat my RF 97 Spits on any other than perfect skatepark surfaces and they both suck on the latter.[close]
maaaaaan fuck dragons. they are ok, but that’s about it. my experience has been that they have serious drawbacks. the bounce is wicked. the biggest problem for me is that dragons do no slide on these really crusty roads i skate, whereas f4s do slide. no speed check, no dice.
on flat rough pavement, the dragons are nice tho. i appreciate the smoothness, and the quiet.[close]
Funny that my Spitfires can barely roll over or even get to slides if I try to skate over really crusty spots, both 99 and 97s in their widest shapes. Dragons handle them no problem and I get them to slide almost everywhere. Good if it works for you.
Expand QuoteDid anyone catch Ben Degros on the nine club? He kinda alludes to the fact that he’s ridding a Spitfire version of the Dragons. I’ll try to provide a time stamp at some point.[close]
Intriguing.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteDid anyone catch Ben Degros on the nine club? He kinda alludes to the fact that he’s ridding a Spitfire version of the Dragons. I’ll try to provide a time stamp at some point.[close]
Intriguing.[close]
Okay found it……I may be reaching here but at 2:35:45 he says he’s got something comparable, and cracks a smile. So Spitfire dragon-like formula confirmed.
https://youtu.be/NV1yRnyohbM?si=23lPRgeFJmy8R95B (https://youtu.be/NV1yRnyohbM?si=23lPRgeFJmy8R95B)
Did anyone catch Ben Degros on the nine club? He kinda alludes to the fact that he’s ridding a Spitfire version of the Dragons. I’ll try to provide a time stamp at some point.
Bones late 80s 95-97 is made of God cum tho. A pal told me it's like that because urethane is like better over time. Like wine I guess.
Expand QuoteDid anyone catch Ben Degros on the nine club? He kinda alludes to the fact that he’s ridding a Spitfire version of the Dragons. I’ll try to provide a time stamp at some point.[close]
Except he didn't mention spitfire at all? Reaching....Just because he rides 99a spits doesn't mean the wheels he's talking about are spits...however, we can only hope/I hope you are right.
Everyone loves the OGs. It's the god shape.
dont think ive ever held og classics……
what would yall say about the edge of the wheel?
is it semi rounded?
dont think ive ever held og classics……
what would yall say about the edge of the wheel?
is it semi rounded?
Do they not make the OG classics in 101? Might have to just dip for 101 conicals or STF 103 V5s.
dont think ive ever held og classics……
what would yall say about the edge of the wheel?
is it semi rounded?
Why do people love the OG classics so much? Just curious what they provide that other shapes don't?
Why do people love the OG classics so much? Just curious what they provide that other shapes don't?In my case skating came little easier to me. Lock in was great and the overall feel was amazing.
Expand QuoteWhy do people love the OG classics so much? Just curious what they provide that other shapes don't?[close]
Relatively slim profile with a wide contact patch, cutaway in the middle so a little lighter.
For me I mostly like the swirl graphic that doesnt fade because of the cutaway. Personally would prefer a more rounded lip like a radial or something at the expense of less riding surface. Its not my favourite shape but its good
In my case skating came little easier to me. Lock in was great and the overall feel was amazing.Expand QuoteWhy do people love the OG classics so much? Just curious what they provide that other shapes don't?[close]
Why do people love the OG classics so much? Just curious what they provide that other shapes don't?
classic full sizing for anyone interested
or future search purposes
seems like the available equivalent is the normal radials
Why do people love the OG classics so much? Just curious what they provide that other shapes don't?
Expand QuoteWhy do people love the OG classics so much? Just curious what they provide that other shapes don't?[close]
It's main benefit is the graphic.
The Bones V5 shape is pretty much perfect. It's like a better-shaped and lighter version of the OG Classic. Goes everywhere. I wish Spitfire made a shape like that.Exactly the reason why I got V5 yesterday.
Exactly the reason why I got V5 yesterday.Expand QuoteThe Bones V5 shape is pretty much perfect. It's like a better-shaped and lighter version of the OG Classic. Goes everywhere. I wish Spitfire made a shape like that.[close]
Yup, X99. I'll try to be a well behaved human being and won't set them up till my Spits or Dial Tones are done.Expand QuoteExactly the reason why I got V5 yesterday.Expand QuoteThe Bones V5 shape is pretty much perfect. It's like a better-shaped and lighter version of the OG Classic. Goes everywhere. I wish Spitfire made a shape like that.[close][close]
X99? You're gonna love 'em.
Yup, X99. I'll try to be a well behaved human being and won't set them up till my Spits or Dial Tones are done.
Obviously I'll fail so I'll set them up next time I change board
As an unsponsored adultExpand Quote
Yup, X99. I'll try to be a well behaved human being and won't set them up till my Spits or Dial Tones are done.
Obviously I'll fail so I'll set them up next time I change board[close]
This is skateboarding.
As an unsponsored adultExpand QuoteExpand Quote
Yup, X99. I'll try to be a well behaved human being and won't set them up till my Spits or Dial Tones are done.
Obviously I'll fail so I'll set them up next time I change board[close]
This is skateboarding.[close]
Alright Uncle Flea you convinced me.
Expand QuoteAs an unsponsored adultExpand QuoteExpand Quote
Yup, X99. I'll try to be a well behaved human being and won't set them up till my Spits or Dial Tones are done.
Obviously I'll fail so I'll set them up next time I change board[close]
This is skateboarding.[close][close]
i don’t have the largest ice chest, but i do have waaaaaaay too many experiments setup.
now i want these v5s. i had resolved to try the x97s, feeling like the f4 99s are excellent for what they are, and only wanting something different for really bad roads.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteAs an unsponsored adultExpand QuoteExpand Quote
Yup, X99. I'll try to be a well behaved human being and won't set them up till my Spits or Dial Tones are done.
Obviously I'll fail so I'll set them up next time I change board[close]
This is skateboarding.[close][close]
i don’t have the largest ice chest, but i do have waaaaaaay too many experiments setup.
now i want these v5s. i had resolved to try the x97s, feeling like the f4 99s are excellent for what they are, and only wanting something different for really bad roads.[close]
V5s really are the best shape. Thin-ish, cut-away light, decent riding surface and locks in so nice; however, Spit conicals are very close.
I'm trying to find some regs old STF 103s, so hard to find them, everything is x99 or spits.
All this talk of shapes has made me realise that I've only been skating conical fulls in 54mm since 2015. I'm pretty sure I only went that route because I liked the shape visually.
Right now I'm skating only indoor wooden bowls/park and is it worth changing to something else? I have absolutely zero slip issues with the conical fulls, they don't even slide when I want them to.
All this talk of shapes has made me realise that I've only been skating conical fulls in 54mm since 2015. I'm pretty sure I only went that route because I liked the shape visually.
Right now I'm skating only indoor wooden park and is it worth changing to something else? I have absolutely zero slip issues with the conical fulls, they don't even slide when I want them to.
For those 5 people that like bones v5, Ricta 'Mids' are the same shape albeit wider.Expand QuoteAll this talk of shapes has made me realise that I've only been skating conical fulls in 54mm since 2015. I'm pretty sure I only went that route because I liked the shape visually.
Right now I'm skating only indoor wooden park and is it worth changing to something else? I have absolutely zero slip issues with the conical fulls, they don't even slide when I want them to.[close]
Is there anything wrong with your skating that could be solved with different shaped wheels?
If it works, don't fix it.
Expand QuoteFor those 5 people that like bones v5, Ricta 'Mids' are the same shape albeit wider.Expand QuoteAll this talk of shapes has made me realise that I've only been skating conical fulls in 54mm since 2015. I'm pretty sure I only went that route because I liked the shape visually.
Right now I'm skating only indoor wooden park and is it worth changing to something else? I have absolutely zero slip issues with the conical fulls, they don't even slide when I want them to.[close]
Is there anything wrong with your skating that could be solved with different shaped wheels?
If it works, don't fix it.[close]
Issues I have are I can't ollie for shit and I don't quite go as fast as I like. Neither really need different wheels to solve ;D thanks for stopping the potential madness.
I love how the 66s make the 60s look small. Glad they aren't priced overly high.
(https://i.imgflip.com/8clcih.jpg)Add V5's as Sandy out there running with Spongebob and Patrick....
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They will not be out here for a while yet, but it is funny to think 43 mm (1992-1993) through 66.6 mm (1997-1998) so yeah, the 90s were a funny time in skateboarding.
At least that was my take on the timeline of some of those sizes.
Anyone else got a different thought as to when they were in their prime / when they got really big for the super small and super big sizes?
Bones really is winning by keeping their prices the same over the last few years. Also the new x formula is a legit alternative to F4.Couldn't agree more, + Bones offers more shapes that are not available on Spits.
Quick back story - My Local is like 60 min drive from my house - it used to be a skatepark but closed during covid now its a guy running it out of his garage. he told me he is not going to be ordering spitfires next time because they will be $90 and hes only making like $5 :'(
Also, within the past week or so, Zumiez that was only like 30 min from my house has also closed down. They have lots of F4 classics on sale still for $50 which is $20 off and spitfires seem to never go on sale around here. I might order 2 sets of Spitfires from Zumiez to put on ice just to keep me going for the next few years :-X
I reallllly love spitfire wheels and want to support DLX. but that is probably getting to the point its too much if I will be able to get decent wheels at like 1/2 the price or even less and they are working for me I will have no choice but to change probably :'(
Quick back story - My Local is like 60 min drive from my house - it used to be a skatepark but closed during covid now its a guy running it out of his garage. he told me he is not going to be ordering spitfires next time because they will be $90 and hes only making like $5 :'(
Also, within the past week or so, Zumiez that was only like 30 min from my house has also closed down. They have lots of F4 classics on sale still for $50 which is $20 off and spitfires seem to never go on sale around here. I might order 2 sets of Spitfires from Zumiez to put on ice just to keep me going for the next few years :-X
I reallllly love spitfire wheels and want to support DLX. but that is probably getting to the point its too much if I will be able to get decent wheels at like 1/2 the price or even less and they are working for me I will have no choice but to change probably :'(
Couldn't agree more, + Bones offers more shapes that are not available on Spits.Expand QuoteBones really is winning by keeping their prices the same over the last few years. Also the new x formula is a legit alternative to F4.[close]
Couldn't agree more, + Bones offers more shapes that are not available on Spits.Expand QuoteBones really is winning by keeping their prices the same over the last few years. Also the new x formula is a legit alternative to F4.[close]
Expand QuoteQuick back story - My Local is like 60 min drive from my house - it used to be a skatepark but closed during covid now its a guy running it out of his garage. he told me he is not going to be ordering spitfires next time because they will be $90 and hes only making like $5 :'(
Also, within the past week or so, Zumiez that was only like 30 min from my house has also closed down. They have lots of F4 classics on sale still for $50 which is $20 off and spitfires seem to never go on sale around here. I might order 2 sets of Spitfires from Zumiez to put on ice just to keep me going for the next few years :-X
I reallllly love spitfire wheels and want to support DLX. but that is probably getting to the point its too much if I will be able to get decent wheels at like 1/2 the price or even less and they are working for me I will have no choice but to change probably :'([close]
For the people who buy whatever they want whenever they want, hats off to you sir. For everyone else who is living on a budget and trying to make ends meet and seeing the price of things like Spitfire wheels keep going up and up, I would say be smart about your spending, so if you see some on a good special / decent % off discount or whatever, go for it and stock up if or where you can so you do have wheels to get you through, compared to being on one set and no back ups, so if you need a new set, you have to pay full price from where ever you can get them, be it at their door or shipped.
I have dealt with and been in both situations, so now I gotta say I always have backups of anything I like to skate, use, wear, etc.
That is just me though.Expand QuoteCouldn't agree more, + Bones offers more shapes that are not available on Spits.Expand QuoteBones really is winning by keeping their prices the same over the last few years. Also the new x formula is a legit alternative to F4.[close][close]
If I had to, the only other wheel I would recommend and use are Bones, besides Spitfire Formula Four wheels, so for anyone who might be suffering as above, definitely check out what Bones offer in terms of price, shape, availability.
An unpopular opinion and to be very blunt about it, but any and all other brands of wheels in the current market, no matter how cheap I think are just not worth it. Sure other people are riding them and are happy, but I would say Spitfire or Bones, then everything else and there is a big enough gap between them that it does make a difference.
Expand QuoteCouldn't agree more, + Bones offers more shapes that are not available on Spits.Expand QuoteBones really is winning by keeping their prices the same over the last few years. Also the new x formula is a legit alternative to F4.[close][close]
If I had to, the only other wheel I would recommend and use are Bones, besides Spitfire Formula Four wheels, so for anyone who might be suffering as above, definitely check out what Bones offer in terms of price, shape, availability.
An unpopular opinion and to be very blunt about it, but any and all other brands of wheels in the current market, no matter how cheap I think are just not worth it. Sure other people are riding them and are happy, but I would say Spitfire or Bones, then everything else and there is a big enough gap between them that it does make a difference.
Truth be told.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteCouldn't agree more, + Bones offers more shapes that are not available on Spits.Expand QuoteBones really is winning by keeping their prices the same over the last few years. Also the new x formula is a legit alternative to F4.[close][close]
If I had to, the only other wheel I would recommend and use are Bones, besides Spitfire Formula Four wheels, so for anyone who might be suffering as above, definitely check out what Bones offer in terms of price, shape, availability.
An unpopular opinion and to be very blunt about it, but any and all other brands of wheels in the current market, no matter how cheap I think are just not worth it. Sure other people are riding them and are happy, but I would say Spitfire or Bones, then everything else and there is a big enough gap between them that it does make a difference.[close]
You never realize how good Bones / Spitfire are until you ride something that isn't Bones / Spitfire. They end up being serviceable at best and slippery + sticky + flatspot-y at worst.
66mms were a mid 80s thing.
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The Big Wheel revival in the mid 90s maxed out at about 63mm with Matt Reason.
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I skated tons of wheels, black label, stereo, popwar, element, DGK, Chocolate, autobahn, satori, OJ, mini logo, Alien workshop, ccs, blanks, shop wheels, and tons of Ricta before I touched Bones or Spitfire and it was still night and day.We would have a 60mm contact surface
imagine if a brand like SNOT had access to Spit or Bones urethane
I've been so satisfied with F4s since they came out I have zero temptation to try anything else. Madness cured on that front.
Soft wheels are another matter though...
imagine if a brand like SNOT had access to Spit or Bones urethane
-Finally F4 hit and solved all my fucking problems. All of them. Now I can I die happy. Sure they are slower than SPFs in big smooth parks but the slip to grip ratio and the feel makes 99a F4 is super versatile. I'll occasionally use 97s in the winter (slippery indoor spots and cold rugged outdoor spots) and 101s in the summer but I could live with 99s all the time. If F4s cease to be... I'll go down with the ship.
For me it was SC speedwheels through the mid 80s to 90s. Untouchable. Loved the feel of a 95a/ 97a Speedwheel.
--Small wheel era was super awkward until the mid 90s. Everything wore out quick.
-Then it was Spitfire until the early 2000s. Again amazing feeling wheels that really lasted... I had set of 58mms I kept going for over a year of daily skateboarding. There was one interlude with Golden State Wheels which were also amazing. A set of clear blue 99a (felt way harder) 58s.
-Then things went way south with Spitfire.... This may have been an EPA thing but the urethane went to absolute shit. I messed around with Ricta, Pi, Autobahn (Pretty decent actually) until I landed on SPF/ STF.
-STF/SPF were super impressive, fast and durable but I could never get used to the feel. SPF felt like shit outside the skatepark and STF were too unpredictable in the skatepark (I'm talking big smooth concrete bowls)
-Finally F4 hit and solved all my fucking problems. All of them. Now I can I die happy. Sure they are slower than SPFs in big smooth parks but the slip to grip ratio and the feel makes 99a F4 is super versatile. I'll occasionally use 97s in the winter (slippery indoor spots and cold rugged outdoor spots) and 101s in the summer but I could live with 99s all the time. If F4s cease to be... I'll go down with the ship.
Expand Quote-Finally F4 hit and solved all my fucking problems. All of them. Now I can I die happy. Sure they are slower than SPFs in big smooth parks but the slip to grip ratio and the feel makes 99a F4 is super versatile. I'll occasionally use 97s in the winter (slippery indoor spots and cold rugged outdoor spots) and 101s in the summer but I could live with 99s all the time. If F4s cease to be... I'll go down with the ship.[close]
Every. Fucking. Word.
Hey @Mbrimson88 ;)
before i browse through all the catalogs.
Do you remember when the og classics F4 (natural) are supposed to be back?
From the top of my head, Spring D2 has the solid color ones
I thought they were supposed to be back in the rotation
I drove/called all over my area today, after two surf/skate shops, two core shops, a mall shop, two Van's stores and two different zumiez I gave up looking local for F4 101 classics, 52mm. All they had were 99a classics and 54mm+ and nothing in 52; loads of tablets, OG classics. One Van's employee said people ask but we never carry them same for one of the core shops; one shop had 101a classics in 56mm. I would have settled for 101s in 51/53mm, hell I would have bought 103 STFs V1/V5 if they had any, just to get a hard wheels.
You know what they did have? MOUNTAINS of X99s waaaaaay more than their respective spit 99a supply, I was kinda suprised. One shop had some new V3 STF 103s tho.
The two core shops pretty much said the same thing tho 'there are too many shapes/duro combinations/it's too confusing for us let alone the customer. Both dudes even suggest trying DLX if they have a webstore. These are core shops but don't think the guys ordering are that 'core' to know what to get.
I did see some classic fulls (99a) for the first time in RL, not sure why anyone would skate radials...was tempted but they were black/99a.
Gonna order online as usual.
I drove/called all over my area today, after two surf/skate shops, two core shops, a mall shop, two Van's stores and two different zumiez I gave up looking local for F4 101 classics, 52mm. All they had were 99a classics...
The two core shops pretty much said the same thing tho 'there are too many shapes/duro combinations/it's too confusing for us let alone the customer.
black wheels can look cool. like the board from the ending skate scene in gleaming the cube.
I'd make an enlarged laminated copy of the Spitfire cardboard insert and push it over the counter if they ever asked.Expand QuoteI drove/called all over my area today, after two surf/skate shops, two core shops, a mall shop, two Van's stores and two different zumiez I gave up looking local for F4 101 classics, 52mm. All they had were 99a classics...
The two core shops pretty much said the same thing tho 'there are too many shapes/duro combinations/it's too confusing for us let alone the customer.[close]
99a Classics are my jam. But I sometimes run 101a in the summer, or when skating a lot of transition (101 is just faster). That said, 101a has always been spotty for me to find in person. I almost always have to order those on-line, so, your experience is 100% consistent with mine.
And last, I have always maintained that Spitfire makes way, way, way too many wheels. Only the hawdkoah Spitfire nerds (e.g. us) can keep track of them. I worked at shop for 6 years back in the day, and man, I'd hate to be a shop employee in 2024 trying to (a) keep tabs of all the product out there, and (b) explain to customers the "differences" in 1/8th inch of wheelbase, or 1mm of riding surface, or sidecut difference between Tablets vs. OG Classics, etc.---they would rightly think I was insane.
I'd make an enlarged laminated copy of the Spitfire cardboard insert and push it over the counter if they ever asked.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI drove/called all over my area today, after two surf/skate shops, two core shops, a mall shop, two Van's stores and two different zumiez I gave up looking local for F4 101 classics, 52mm. All they had were 99a classics...
The two core shops pretty much said the same thing tho 'there are too many shapes/duro combinations/it's too confusing for us let alone the customer.[close]
99a Classics are my jam. But I sometimes run 101a in the summer, or when skating a lot of transition (101 is just faster). That said, 101a has always been spotty for me to find in person. I almost always have to order those on-line, so, your experience is 100% consistent with mine.
And last, I have always maintained that Spitfire makes way, way, way too many wheels. Only the hawdkoah Spitfire nerds (e.g. us) can keep track of them. I worked at shop for 6 years back in the day, and man, I'd hate to be a shop employee in 2024 trying to (a) keep tabs of all the product out there, and (b) explain to customers the "differences" in 1/8th inch of wheelbase, or 1mm of riding surface, or sidecut difference between Tablets vs. OG Classics, etc.---they would rightly think I was insane.[close]
Expand Quoteblack wheels can look cool. like the board from the ending skate scene in gleaming the cube.[close]
If they had been 101a I would have picked them up.
Expand QuoteExpand Quoteblack wheels can look cool. like the board from the ending skate scene in gleaming the cube.[close]
If they had been 101a I would have picked them up.[close]
looks like you, me and sedition are the only ones occasionally buying f4 101s. shop guys tried to talk me out of them, i was dead set on skating a 52 (or smaller, i was on venture lo’s at the time). so walked out with 52 conical fulls, 101s. first reaction was that i had made a bad mistake, too hard. the wheels broke in a bit and were great. i’m not a conical full person, i like classics, but the wider shape did help the small
wheel roll over some stuff.
blah blah. 101s are real decent
Just dropping in to say I love my F4 conical fulls in 52mm. I wanted to get some Classics but they didn’t have them, so grabbed the conical fulls. I found myself just skating around the park faster than I normally would(but felt comfy), hitting random stuff and kinda carving around. So, somehow, a fatter wheel has made skateboarding a little more fun for me.
Bye now.
Expand QuoteJust dropping in to say I love my F4 conical fulls in 52mm. I wanted to get some Classics but they didn’t have them, so grabbed the conical fulls. I found myself just skating around the park faster than I normally would(but felt comfy), hitting random stuff and kinda carving around. So, somehow, a fatter wheel has made skateboarding a little more fun for me.
Bye now.[close]
The best wheel. It’s all I’ve been riding for a couple years. I flirted with radials and classics but 52 conical full just feels perfect
Holy fuck, you guys. You’re NOT helping my madness right now. For some inane, obtuse, and debilitating reason, I got the equally inane idea that I should try 52mm wheels again this afternoon. I’ve been down this road many times before, and it only ends in despair, disappointment, and frustration. “But no! This time I’ll try something other than a 52mm Classic! That will work, right?!!” Then I log on here and see all this banter about 52mm Full Connies. Great. Just great. Fuck all y’all right now! ;)Can't express how much I loved this post.
Holy fuck, you guys. You’re NOT helping my madness right now. For some inane, obtuse, and debilitating reason, I got the equally inane idea that I should try 52mm wheels again this afternoon. I’ve been down this road many times before, and it only ends in despair, disappointment, and frustration. “But no! This time I’ll try something other than a 52mm Classic! That will work, right?!!” Then I log on here and see all this banter about 52mm Full Connies. Great. Just great. Fuck all y’all right now! ;)
Expand QuoteHoly fuck, you guys. You’re NOT helping my madness right now. For some inane, obtuse, and debilitating reason, I got the equally inane idea that I should try 52mm wheels again this afternoon. I’ve been down this road many times before, and it only ends in despair, disappointment, and frustration. “But no! This time I’ll try something other than a 52mm Classic! That will work, right?!!” Then I log on here and see all this banter about 52mm Full Connies. Great. Just great. Fuck all y’all right now! ;)[close]
The 52 mm Conical Ful wheels would work perfectly on the Venture trucks on that other 8.5 deck, wouldn't they???
Sorry that was too easy, but I actually have that combo set up too and two other people swear by that combination.
I like Conical Full shaped wheels in smaller sizes, with the 52 or 53 mm size working nicely on smaller stuff / more tech setups, but I know others swear by them in 54 mm in any situation too. Anything over 54 mm and they just feel too big and bulky for me, but when I round them down a lot, they work well on the bigger boards with wider trucks and look more proportionate.
Just down to what you are used to and what you want out of a wheel.
Gotta say I still like Classics a lot too, but more so when they have worn down a few mm from bigger sizes, eg 56 down to 53 is perfect for me.
I have found regular (non full) radials in your preferred size starts out like a worn down classic of a bigger size, in case you want that feeling from the get go.Expand QuoteHoly fuck, you guys. You’re NOT helping my madness right now. For some inane, obtuse, and debilitating reason, I got the equally inane idea that I should try 52mm wheels again this afternoon. I’ve been down this road many times before, and it only ends in despair, disappointment, and frustration. “But no! This time I’ll try something other than a 52mm Classic! That will work, right?!!” Then I log on here and see all this banter about 52mm Full Connies. Great. Just great. Fuck all y’all right now! ;)[close]
Gotta say I still like Classics a lot too, but more so when they have worn down a few mm from bigger sizes, eg 56 down to 53 is perfect for me.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteHoly fuck, you guys. You’re NOT helping my madness right now. For some inane, obtuse, and debilitating reason, I got the equally inane idea that I should try 52mm wheels again this afternoon. I’ve been down this road many times before, and it only ends in despair, disappointment, and frustration. “But no! This time I’ll try something other than a 52mm Classic! That will work, right?!!” Then I log on here and see all this banter about 52mm Full Connies. Great. Just great. Fuck all y’all right now! ;)[close]
The 52 mm Conical Ful wheels would work perfectly on the Venture trucks on that other 8.5 deck, wouldn't they???
Sorry that was too easy, but I actually have that combo set up too and two other people swear by that combination.
I like Conical Full shaped wheels in smaller sizes, with the 52 or 53 mm size working nicely on smaller stuff / more tech setups, but I know others swear by them in 54 mm in any situation too. Anything over 54 mm and they just feel too big and bulky for me, but when I round them down a lot, they work well on the bigger boards with wider trucks and look more proportionate.
Just down to what you are used to and what you want out of a wheel.
Gotta say I still like Classics a lot too, but more so when they have worn down a few mm from bigger sizes, eg 56 down to 53 is perfect for me.[close]
I hate the look of big fat wide wheels. It's full-on Monster Truck absurdity. And clunky, too. I'm actually in the throes of an "episode" of wheel madness right now. Conicals. Radials. Classics. And I hate looking at my board with the Conicals and Radials on it. The wide riding surface does ride a bit smoother, though. Mixed feelings on straighter-cut profiles. Def locks-in better on some things (which I both like and hate), but I don't like the way they just ride, it's like they are the wheel equivalent of tight-trucks (e.g. board feels too "tight" on a side-to-side feel, esp. when any flip trick/revert/slide gets involved). They Radials are a good compromise between Conicals and Classics, but the size is still just a bit clunky to me. Imagine if they made something like a...Radial Slim. :)
54mm starts to Ghost Pop on my 8.25 (love them on my 8.75, though). 52mm starts to feel too slow and low (only had 52mm Classics, though). 53mm just seems perfect. Also, am I really being that much of a princess over 1mm +/-? Apparently.
...(nollie tre fling attempts notwithstanding)...
I have found regular (non full) radials in your preferred size starts out like a worn down classic of a bigger size, in case you want that feeling from the get go.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteHoly fuck, you guys. You’re NOT helping my madness right now. For some inane, obtuse, and debilitating reason, I got the equally inane idea that I should try 52mm wheels again this afternoon. I’ve been down this road many times before, and it only ends in despair, disappointment, and frustration. “But no! This time I’ll try something other than a 52mm Classic! That will work, right?!!” Then I log on here and see all this banter about 52mm Full Connies. Great. Just great. Fuck all y’all right now! ;)[close]
Gotta say I still like Classics a lot too, but more so when they have worn down a few mm from bigger sizes, eg 56 down to 53 is perfect for me.[close]
Spitfire getting into the denim game :o
https://www.instagram.com/p/C3ne_7LOpRA/?img_index=1 (https://www.instagram.com/p/C3ne_7LOpRA/?img_index=1)
Expand Quote...(nollie tre fling attempts notwithstanding)...[close]
The ultimate ghost pop trick. People who actually pop these are doing them...wrong.
are the f4 classics always so yellow fresh out of the packaging? Got som semi fresh handmi downs a while back and the logo was damn near still intact but the wheel was already so yellow
I don’t know if many of you guys follow 144p here on Instagram.
But some lower duro F4s have been popping up, 93d in a radial shape. Sounds interesting for a crust beater
Expand Quoteare the f4 classics always so yellow fresh out of the packaging? Got som semi fresh handmi downs a while back and the logo was damn near still intact but the wheel was already so yellow[close]
Idk if it's because they are 97 but both of my recent sets are still white as rice.
One of my older 99a wheels stayed whit up until recently. They're.issing like 8mmm too.
I think it just varies case to case
I don’t know if many of you guys follow 144p here on Instagram.
But some lower duro F4s have been popping up, 93d in a radial shape. Sounds interesting for a crust beater
I don’t know if many of you guys follow 144p here on Instagram.def interested to see how a 93d spitfire is and in comparison to dragons
But some lower duro F4s have been popping up, 93d in a radial shape. Sounds interesting for a crust beater
I don’t know if many of you guys follow 144p here on Instagram.
But some lower duro F4s have been popping up, 93d in a radial shape. Sounds interesting for a crust beater
Expand QuoteI don’t know if many of you guys follow 144p here on Instagram.
But some lower duro F4s have been popping up, 93d in a radial shape. Sounds interesting for a crust beater[close]
Source? Nothing about this on any Spitfire channel, nor did I find anything about this upon searching the innerwebz.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI don’t know if many of you guys follow 144p here on Instagram.
But some lower duro F4s have been popping up, 93d in a radial shape. Sounds interesting for a crust beater[close]
Source? Nothing about this on any Spitfire channel, nor did I find anything about this upon searching the innerwebz.[close]
It says right there, I saw all around good guy @144p post up a sample set, on Instagram. Kept it vague in case he wasn’t meant to do so yet.
Sidenote: I saw this reynolds story a few weeks ago and just thought of it now. I wonder if Spitfire is brewing a response.
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I feel I seen the other shapes hold up their color but the classics always seem nasty ass yellow. Would like a bigger size maybe stay more white like a 54mm? Cuz I know the harder duro is supposed to stay whiter tho
anyone notice black (i'd assume same for any other color too) F4s to be a tad softer and grippier than the natural colored ones?Actually I felt the exact opposite.
anyone notice black (i'd assume same for any other color too) F4s to be a tad softer and grippier than the natural colored ones?
I feel I seen the other shapes hold up their color but the classics always seem nasty ass yellow. Would like a bigger size maybe stay more white like a 54mm? Cuz I know the harder duro is supposed to stay whiter tho
Am I the only one who actually really likes the way Spits turn potato yellow? I don't have a problem with ultra-white wheels but I prefer them gnarly yellowed. All things must pass and age should be proudly shown.I'm on the same boat as you.
Same, bright white wheels look like toy store shit or somethingI'm on the same boat as you.Expand QuoteAm I the only one who actually really likes the way Spits turn potato yellow? I don't have a problem with ultra-white wheels but I prefer them gnarly yellowed. All things must pass and age should be proudly shown.[close]
Same, bright white wheels look like toy store shit or somethingExpand QuoteI'm on the same boat as you.Expand QuoteAm I the only one who actually really likes the way Spits turn potato yellow? I don't have a problem with ultra-white wheels but I prefer them gnarly yellowed. All things must pass and age should be proudly shown.[close][close]
I've tested a few sets of the 93a f4, very similar feel to the dragon wheels.
So far ive had conical full 54/56 and radial 56. I like them a lot, great for the streets.
They're calling them Soft Sliders, no idea when they might release.
I recommended crust burners but no response.
I'm on the same boat as you.Expand QuoteAm I the only one who actually really likes the way Spits turn potato yellow? I don't have a problem with ultra-white wheels but I prefer them gnarly yellowed. All things must pass and age should be proudly shown.[close]
Expand QuoteI've tested a few sets of the 93a f4, very similar feel to the dragon wheels.
So far ive had conical full 54/56 and radial 56. I like them a lot, great for the streets.
They're calling them Soft Sliders, no idea when they might release.[close]
Hopefully they haven’t settled on that name 😬
I recommended crust burners but no response.
Expand QuoteI recommended crust burners but no response.[close]
Crust Burners and I think of amateur pizza chefs
Anyone feel like the hype around Dragons and X-Formula 97a / 99a has died down and everyone is just going back to F4? Only the older gear nerds bother with Powell / Bones stuff, all the younger guys have stuck with F4s. New stuff is always going to move the sales chart but I wonder if Spitfire investing all this money for R&D is worth it.
I have heard the entire Late Nite Stars guys have all switched to dragons. Makes sense for the streets of NY and I think they also like it for the bonus irony points of being on trend guys riding dragons.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI recommended crust burners but no response.[close]
Crust Burners and I think of amateur pizza chefs
Anyone feel like the hype around Dragons and X-Formula 97a / 99a has died down and everyone is just going back to F4? Only the older gear nerds bother with Powell / Bones stuff, all the younger guys have stuck with F4s. New stuff is always going to move the sales chart but I wonder if Spitfire investing all this money for R&D is worth it.[close]
Yeah, I don't know, I feel like the younger guys aren't really even that much aware of especially the X-Formulas. They seem to cater more for the middle age market. All hypes naturally die down at some point and for sure some peeps will go back to F4s, but there is certainly a segment (myself included) who will keep the X-Formulas/Dragons as a permament part of their wheel quiver. Not necessarily as something to replace F4, but as a welcome addition to cater for various purposes.
At my shop it’s split probably 60% hard wheels and 40% softer wheels, meaning f4 97/oj nomad 95/dragons 93/ x formula 97.How did the 93's slide?
A lot of people are curious, pretty rough ground in Washington and to access some of the spots it’s a necessity to ride something softer than 99.
A lot of people love dragon wheels here, it’s crazy how fast they are too if you’ve never tried them. But the downsides are obvious if you skate parks/transition or metal edged ledges/curbs.
The f4 93 I tested weren’t as grabby on the metal as the dragons though, I like them a lot. Just not enough to only want to skate them.
Very well on rough ground, not so good on smooth. Typical of that durometer, with too much friction meaning ground that is even and smooth it feels like it can’t break free to slide as easily as when the ground is rougher asphalt where it’s bumpier and they can slide easier. Still slid while bombing hills but I wasn’t as confident to slide on blacktop.Well for a crusty curb/ledge set-up they sound perfect then! Normal 99's for everything else. I don't think there ever will be an does all perfect wheel. Like there will always be advantageous and disadvantages with them.
The street ledges and curbs slid very well, skatepark ledges not so much.
Very well on rough ground, not so good on smooth. Typical of that durometer, with too much friction meaning ground that is even and smooth it feels like it can’t break free to slide as easily as when the ground is rougher asphalt where it’s bumpier and they can slide easier. Still slid while bombing hills but I wasn’t as confident to slide on blacktop.Do you prefer them to the 97a? Also, do you think a hypothetical 95a could still cover rough ground but be able to slide on ledges?
The street ledges and curbs slid very well, skatepark ledges not so much.
I've tested a few sets of the 93a f4, very similar feel to the dragon wheels.
So far ive had conical full 54/56 and radial 56. I like them a lot, great for the streets.
They're calling them Soft Sliders, no idea when they might release.
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Crust Burners and I think of amateur pizza chefs
Anyone feel like the hype around Dragons and X-Formula 97a / 99a has died down and everyone is just going back to F4? Only the older gear nerds bother with Powell / Bones stuff, all the younger guys have stuck with F4s. New stuff is always going to move the sales chart but I wonder if Spitfire investing all this money for R&D is worth it.
At my shop it’s split probably 60% hard wheels and 40% softer wheels, meaning f4 97/oj nomad 95/dragons 93/ x formula 97.
A lot of people are curious, pretty rough ground in Washington and to access some of the spots it’s a necessity to ride something softer than 99.
A lot of people love dragon wheels here, it’s crazy how fast they are too if you’ve never tried them. But the downsides are obvious if you skate parks/transition or metal edged ledges/curbs.
The f4 93 I tested weren’t as grabby on the metal as the dragons though, I like them a lot. Just not enough to only want to skate them.
93 Spits sound interesting but is there a point getting them if I already like the dragons? Maybe if they're cheaper and perform similarly. I like Spitfire shapes a bit more than Powell/Bones. Radial/Rf in 93 would be dreamy.
Nope, still developing.Expand QuoteAt my shop it’s split probably 60% hard wheels and 40% softer wheels, meaning f4 97/oj nomad 95/dragons 93/ x formula 97.
A lot of people are curious, pretty rough ground in Washington and to access some of the spots it’s a necessity to ride something softer than 99.
A lot of people love dragon wheels here, it’s crazy how fast they are too if you’ve never tried them. But the downsides are obvious if you skate parks/transition or metal edged ledges/curbs.
The f4 93 I tested weren’t as grabby on the metal as the dragons though, I like them a lot. Just not enough to only want to skate them.[close]
Did they give you any idea of a release date?
93 Spits sound interesting but is there a point getting them if I already like the dragons? Maybe if they're cheaper and perform similarly. I like Spitfire shapes a bit more than Powell/Bones. Radial/Rf in 93 would be dreamy.
I have heard the entire Late Nite Stars guys have all switched to dragons. Makes sense for the streets of NY and I think they also like it for the bonus irony points of being on trend guys riding dragons.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI recommended crust burners but no response.[close]
Crust Burners and I think of amateur pizza chefs
Anyone feel like the hype around Dragons and X-Formula 97a / 99a has died down and everyone is just going back to F4? Only the older gear nerds bother with Powell / Bones stuff, all the younger guys have stuck with F4s. New stuff is always going to move the sales chart but I wonder if Spitfire investing all this money for R&D is worth it.[close]
Yeah, I don't know, I feel like the younger guys aren't really even that much aware of especially the X-Formulas. They seem to cater more for the middle age market. All hypes naturally die down at some point and for sure some peeps will go back to F4s, but there is certainly a segment (myself included) who will keep the X-Formulas/Dragons as a permament part of their wheel quiver. Not necessarily as something to replace F4, but as a welcome addition to cater for various purposes.[close]
how long for my dragons to wear down?
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how long for my dragons to wear down?[close]
Get busy
https://youtu.be/3MqGcx5mecc?si=xwux-d4f3dHF7dIo
After a winter of being on some dragons at the indoor, I put on an old set of 97a radial fulls since I'm too broke to try the x97's right now and they feel amazing. Nothing like some broken-in potato F4's. All these newer ones are white, what's up with that?
Expand QuoteAfter a winter of being on some dragons at the indoor, I put on an old set of 97a radial fulls since I'm too broke to try the x97's right now and they feel amazing. Nothing like some broken-in potato F4's. All these newer ones are white, what's up with that?[close]
Yeah...my last set of 99a lockins (from the last drop) were REALLY white by F4 standards...
Next to new (probably new old stock tho) spit classics; they also felt muuuuuch harder than my 99a black conicals
(https://i.ibb.co/4MD5L0T/IMG-5810.jpg) (https://ibb.co/4MD5L0T)
They have to be. My Lock-In Fulls are white, not off white like the other ones.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteAfter a winter of being on some dragons at the indoor, I put on an old set of 97a radial fulls since I'm too broke to try the x97's right now and they feel amazing. Nothing like some broken-in potato F4's. All these newer ones are white, what's up with that?[close]
Yeah...my last set of 99a lockins (from the last drop) were REALLY white by F4 standards...
Next to new (probably new old stock tho) spit classics; they also felt muuuuuch harder than my 99a black conicals
(https://i.ibb.co/4MD5L0T/IMG-5810.jpg) (https://ibb.co/4MD5L0T)[close]
Someone should DM thiebaud and ask if they're putting white dye in them now lol. I actually don't mind white wheels, it's just when it comes to F4's specifically, their signature schtick isn't just the performance, but that natural urethane color which sets them apart. Especially when they were first released because no one else was doing it. Then Bones started using a shade of dye to make them look like natural urethane lol.
Slide better than the 97s for sure. I would choose the 93 over the 97.
So are regular radials like worn down classics?
I want like a worn in 55mm classic, would a 53 radial be like this or should I just get some classics and skate them down?
Expand QuoteSo are regular radials like worn down classics?
I want like a worn in 55mm classic, would a 53 radial be like this or should I just get some classics and skate them down?[close]
exactly that. The og Classic feels pretty much that too. Wide contact rounded edge. Og is a worn classic with weight relief in my minds wheel chart.
I think the Radial regs comes in 57mm as the tallest size i think. Id skate the shit outa that thing.
Im 110% a OG/Coni Pal as my first choice shape. I like to grind. the friction free side cut is all flat bars best friend for especially cross locks on flat bars. Pool coping too i believe. Radials have a tendency to throw me up on the deck until the wheels been grinded flat on the inside part. same with curved ledges. Id prob go lock in 57mm as my third choice these days
https://nocomplyatx.com/collections/wheels?sort_by=created-descending
OG Classics come in colors:
https://nocomplyatx.com/collections/wheels/products/spitfire-formula-four-99a-og-classic-skateboard-wheels?variant=43753648554169
Expand Quotehttps://nocomplyatx.com/collections/wheels?sort_by=created-descending
OG Classics come in colors:
https://nocomplyatx.com/collections/wheels/products/spitfire-formula-four-99a-og-classic-skateboard-wheels?variant=43753648554169[close]
Bad.Ass
Shame they don't make more size options for each color.
Expand QuoteExpand Quotehttps://nocomplyatx.com/collections/wheels?sort_by=created-descending
OG Classics come in colors:
https://nocomplyatx.com/collections/wheels/products/spitfire-formula-four-99a-og-classic-skateboard-wheels?variant=43753648554169[close]
Bad.Ass
Shame they don't make more size options for each color.[close]
Sticking to even numbers 52 / 54 /56 makes sense from a SKU perspective, 53 and to a lesser extent 55 are less popular and always on clearance so it'd make sense for them to shrink their product range.
Any wide contact patch enjoyers moved to classics and found them ok balance wise / not too tippy or spill inducing?
Currently riding 55MM/99A OG classics which I'm really liking. Before that was split between Conical Fulls and Nano Cubics, as I like the stability of a wider contact patch. But curious about regular classics, as I've never had a set. I should probably just stick with the OG classics, but a bit less weight and easier flip tricks seems appealing (assuming it doesn't enhance eating shit quotient).
Expand QuoteAny wide contact patch enjoyers moved to classics and found them ok balance wise / not too tippy or spill inducing?
Currently riding 55MM/99A OG classics which I'm really liking. Before that was split between Conical Fulls and Nano Cubics, as I like the stability of a wider contact patch. But curious about regular classics, as I've never had a set. I should probably just stick with the OG classics, but a bit less weight and easier flip tricks seems appealing (assuming it doesn't enhance eating shit quotient).[close]
As a wide contact patch enjoyer, I always hate regular classics when they're new. The narrow contact patch is really narrow and I can't stand it until the wheel wears down a reasonable amount. I'm a big fan of Radials because they feel like a worn down Classic right out of the box without being crazy square like Conicals.
so are big beatdowns just XL sized special run classics?
lol 66mm wheel, better have double risers for that on indy standard
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteAny wide contact patch enjoyers moved to classics and found them ok balance wise / not too tippy or spill inducing?
Currently riding 55MM/99A OG classics which I'm really liking. Before that was split between Conical Fulls and Nano Cubics, as I like the stability of a wider contact patch. But curious about regular classics, as I've never had a set. I should probably just stick with the OG classics, but a bit less weight and easier flip tricks seems appealing (assuming it doesn't enhance eating shit quotient).[close]
As a wide contact patch enjoyer, I always hate regular classics when they're new. The narrow contact patch is really narrow and I can't stand it until the wheel wears down a reasonable amount. I'm a big fan of Radials because they feel like a worn down Classic right out of the box without being crazy square like Conicals.[close]
Cheers!
every now and then i contemplate trying og classics
why would i like them more than radials?
comparing both sizes in 52mm
My friend at the local shop got a set of 56 radial 93as. Only rolled around out front in them. I’d say they feel soft for sure, much softer and smoother than a 97a. Slide great. Feel kinda like a dragon but more spitfire-y if that makes sense, which in my opinion is definitely a good thing
Didn’t test drag, speed and smoothness side to side with other wheels on different terrain. But if they’re not too grabby, and aren’t too gummy on smooth surfaces, could be a great option
Wish F4 OG classics were easy to find here, local shop is in lie support apparently :(
Thx but €68 is way too much for F4, here you find them usually for €52 but mostly classics, tablets and CF. Just the other day I got some tablets which are not my fav shape but couldn't say no for €27Expand QuoteWish F4 OG classics were easy to find here, local shop is in lie support apparently :([close]
I am not 100% sure if they will ship to you, but I found a few from German shops.
https://bonkers-shop.com/de/products/spitfire-formular-four-og-classics-green-52mm-99a-wheels?pr_prod_strat=e5_desc&pr_rec_id=9030137f2&pr_rec_pid=8658232901948&pr_ref_pid=8658278613308&pr_seq=uniform (https://bonkers-shop.com/de/products/spitfire-formular-four-og-classics-green-52mm-99a-wheels?pr_prod_strat=e5_desc&pr_rec_id=9030137f2&pr_rec_pid=8658232901948&pr_ref_pid=8658278613308&pr_seq=uniform)
The prices have gone up in the EU. €65+ is the normal now unfortunately.Thx but €68 is way too much for F4, here you find them usually for €52 but mostly classics, tablets and CF. Just the other day I got some tablets which are not my fav shape but couldn't say no for €27Expand QuoteExpand QuoteWish F4 OG classics were easy to find here, local shop is in lie support apparently :([close]
I am not 100% sure if they will ship to you, but I found a few from German shops.
https://bonkers-shop.com/de/products/spitfire-formular-four-og-classics-green-52mm-99a-wheels?pr_prod_strat=e5_desc&pr_rec_id=9030137f2&pr_rec_pid=8658232901948&pr_ref_pid=8658278613308&pr_seq=uniform (https://bonkers-shop.com/de/products/spitfire-formular-four-og-classics-green-52mm-99a-wheels?pr_prod_strat=e5_desc&pr_rec_id=9030137f2&pr_rec_pid=8658232901948&pr_ref_pid=8658278613308&pr_seq=uniform)[close]
The prices have gone up in the EU. €65+ is the normal now unfortunately.Expand QuoteThx but €68 is way too much for F4, here you find them usually for €52 but mostly classics, tablets and CF. Just the other day I got some tablets which are not my fav shape but couldn't say no for €27Expand QuoteExpand QuoteWish F4 OG classics were easy to find here, local shop is in lie support apparently :([close]
I am not 100% sure if they will ship to you, but I found a few from German shops.
https://bonkers-shop.com/de/products/spitfire-formular-four-og-classics-green-52mm-99a-wheels?pr_prod_strat=e5_desc&pr_rec_id=9030137f2&pr_rec_pid=8658232901948&pr_ref_pid=8658278613308&pr_seq=uniform (https://bonkers-shop.com/de/products/spitfire-formular-four-og-classics-green-52mm-99a-wheels?pr_prod_strat=e5_desc&pr_rec_id=9030137f2&pr_rec_pid=8658232901948&pr_ref_pid=8658278613308&pr_seq=uniform)[close][close]
The prices have gone up in the EU. €65+ is the normal now unfortunately.Expand QuoteThx but €68 is way too much for F4, here you find them usually for €52 but mostly classics, tablets and CF. Just the other day I got some tablets which are not my fav shape but couldn't say no for €27Expand QuoteExpand QuoteWish F4 OG classics were easy to find here, local shop is in lie support apparently :([close]
I am not 100% sure if they will ship to you, but I found a few from German shops.
https://bonkers-shop.com/de/products/spitfire-formular-four-og-classics-green-52mm-99a-wheels?pr_prod_strat=e5_desc&pr_rec_id=9030137f2&pr_rec_pid=8658232901948&pr_ref_pid=8658278613308&pr_seq=uniform (https://bonkers-shop.com/de/products/spitfire-formular-four-og-classics-green-52mm-99a-wheels?pr_prod_strat=e5_desc&pr_rec_id=9030137f2&pr_rec_pid=8658232901948&pr_ref_pid=8658278613308&pr_seq=uniform)[close][close]
I was bugging about them going for $45-50 but some shops in the US are still selling for $40. If someone is buying 3+ pairs of SFs, it’s sadly cheaper to get them shipped from an American store.Expand QuoteThe prices have gone up in the EU. €65+ is the normal now unfortunately.Expand QuoteThx but €68 is way too much for F4, here you find them usually for €52 but mostly classics, tablets and CF. Just the other day I got some tablets which are not my fav shape but couldn't say no for €27Expand QuoteExpand QuoteWish F4 OG classics were easy to find here, local shop is in lie support apparently :([close]
I am not 100% sure if they will ship to you, but I found a few from German shops.
https://bonkers-shop.com/de/products/spitfire-formular-four-og-classics-green-52mm-99a-wheels?pr_prod_strat=e5_desc&pr_rec_id=9030137f2&pr_rec_pid=8658232901948&pr_ref_pid=8658278613308&pr_seq=uniform (https://bonkers-shop.com/de/products/spitfire-formular-four-og-classics-green-52mm-99a-wheels?pr_prod_strat=e5_desc&pr_rec_id=9030137f2&pr_rec_pid=8658232901948&pr_ref_pid=8658278613308&pr_seq=uniform)[close][close][close]
new releases are 75€ in France :-\
Maybe, DLX can eventually expand to pouring wheels in China to reduce costs for the rest of the world. If I had to pay 75 euros, I would only skate 58-60 mm to get my money’s worth.
I was bugging about them going for $45-50 but some shops in the US are still selling for $40. If someone is buying 3+ pairs of SFs, it’s sadly cheaper to get them shipped from an American store.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteThe prices have gone up in the EU. €65+ is the normal now unfortunately.Expand QuoteThx but €68 is way too much for F4, here you find them usually for €52 but mostly classics, tablets and CF. Just the other day I got some tablets which are not my fav shape but couldn't say no for €27Expand QuoteExpand QuoteWish F4 OG classics were easy to find here, local shop is in lie support apparently :([close]
I am not 100% sure if they will ship to you, but I found a few from German shops.
https://bonkers-shop.com/de/products/spitfire-formular-four-og-classics-green-52mm-99a-wheels?pr_prod_strat=e5_desc&pr_rec_id=9030137f2&pr_rec_pid=8658232901948&pr_ref_pid=8658278613308&pr_seq=uniform (https://bonkers-shop.com/de/products/spitfire-formular-four-og-classics-green-52mm-99a-wheels?pr_prod_strat=e5_desc&pr_rec_id=9030137f2&pr_rec_pid=8658232901948&pr_ref_pid=8658278613308&pr_seq=uniform)[close][close][close]
new releases are 75€ in France :-\[close]
Maybe, DLX can eventually expand to pouring wheels in China to reduce costs for the rest of the world. If I had to pay 75 euros, I would only skate 58-60 mm to get my money’s worth.
Were colors always a thing with F4? Outside of pro wheels, I never saw colored wheels in catalogs or in bigger shops.
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0018/1832/9147/files/sf-cp-wh-F4-99-RADIAL-BLACK-52copy.jpg?v=1707503745&width=600)
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0018/1832/9147/files/SpitfireConicalFullMint.jpg?v=1707943972&width=600)
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0018/1832/9147/files/sf-cp-wh-F4-99-CLASSIC-BLACK-52copy.jpg?v=1707503134&width=600)
Fuck me I just saw that the big beatdowns are 85 euro in France. Thank fuck I skate 52's and have a few sets.
Source of the price:
https://vegaskateshop.fr/shop/skateboard/roues/roue-street/roues-skateboard-spitfire-formula-4-big-beatdowns-62mm-99a/
Expand QuoteFuck me I just saw that the big beatdowns are 85 euro in France. Thank fuck I skate 52's and have a few sets.
Source of the price:
https://vegaskateshop.fr/shop/skateboard/roues/roue-street/roues-skateboard-spitfire-formula-4-big-beatdowns-62mm-99a/[close]
pinch me
Thank God I don't live in FranceExpand QuoteFuck me I just saw that the big beatdowns are 85 euro in France. Thank fuck I skate 52's and have a few sets.
Source of the price:
https://vegaskateshop.fr/shop/skateboard/roues/roue-street/roues-skateboard-spitfire-formula-4-big-beatdowns-62mm-99a/[close]
pinch me
Were colors always a thing with F4? Outside of pro wheels, I never saw colored wheels in catalogs or in bigger shops.
OK, I got a case of madness. I am starting to doubt my eyesight. Are OG classics fully symmetrical or slightly asymmetrical?
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quotehttps://nocomplyatx.com/collections/wheels?sort_by=created-descending
OG Classics come in colors:
https://nocomplyatx.com/collections/wheels/products/spitfire-formula-four-99a-og-classic-skateboard-wheels?variant=43753648554169[close]
Bad.Ass
Shame they don't make more size options for each color.[close]
Sticking to even numbers 52 / 54 /56 makes sense from a SKU perspective, 53 and to a lesser extent 55 are less popular and always on clearance so it'd make sense for them to shrink their product range.[close]
That's different sizing, I want more colors in the same size :) I'd jump on some 52s if they were blue.
Anyone find these at a reasonable price? USD $54.58 (including shipping) is not happening.
OK, I got a case of madness. I am starting to doubt my eyesight. Are OG classics fully symmetrical or slightly asymmetrical?
(https://cdn.skatedeluxe.com/thumb/WrPXfIrC2yp9AnPvDKAXIl2_PaI=/fit-in/600x700/filters:fill(white):brightness(-4)/product/155283-0-Spitfire-FormulaFourOGClassics.jpg)
The swirlies are listed again but those are of the Classic formula—not F4.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quotehttps://nocomplyatx.com/collections/wheels?sort_by=created-descending
OG Classics come in colors:
https://nocomplyatx.com/collections/wheels/products/spitfire-formula-four-99a-og-classic-skateboard-wheels?variant=43753648554169[close]
Bad.Ass
Shame they don't make more size options for each color.[close]
Sticking to even numbers 52 / 54 /56 makes sense from a SKU perspective, 53 and to a lesser extent 55 are less popular and always on clearance so it'd make sense for them to shrink their product range.[close]
That's different sizing, I want more colors in the same size :) I'd jump on some 52s if they were blue.
Anyone find these at a reasonable price? USD $54.58 (including shipping) is not happening.[close]
For those stateside SoCal has these at regular price and some cool new red/white swirlies (that have since been removed from the site).
(https://i.imgur.com/4ugJFP2.jpeg)
Reynolds 93
I'm curious about one thing. Will changing direction over a barely wet surface make you eat totally shit like the dragons do?
With the dragon any trace of damp will cause you to slip out
The 97s spits have zero problems with soaking wet surfaces I did it the other night. Might've been yesterday?
For a dry warm day tho. Those 58x33 dragons fuckin slide. I prefer them to the stf and the spf for slides. I love it all tho. A slide is a slide. It just so happened that f4 of all three current formulas is the top slide.
It's fuckin perfect amount of grip and slip. :o Id marry it if I didn't already get married to macaroni and cheese in the 3rd grade.
Wonder why Reynolds was the chosen face for 93. I would expect somebody like... Idk, but not him for sure. Always stoked to see Boss stuff
Those (presumably) samples Spanky got have a noticeably whiter finish to the wheel than the traditional yellower/browner finish on F4 wheels that we're used to seeing. Unless, I'm confusing it with the wrapping. That may turn some off, but if they work, HELL YEAH!The newer F4's of all durometers have all been noticeably whiter from what I've seen. I'm talking batches from about 6 months ago to now.
The newer F4's of all durometers have all been noticeably whiter from what I've seen. I'm talking batches from about 6 months ago to now.Expand QuoteThose (presumably) samples Spanky got have a noticeably whiter finish to the wheel than the traditional yellower/browner finish on F4 wheels that we're used to seeing. Unless, I'm confusing it with the wrapping. That may turn some off, but if they work, HELL YEAH![close]
Expand QuoteThe newer F4's of all durometers have all been noticeably whiter from what I've seen. I'm talking batches from about 6 months ago to now.Expand QuoteThose (presumably) samples Spanky got have a noticeably whiter finish to the wheel than the traditional yellower/browner finish on F4 wheels that we're used to seeing. Unless, I'm confusing it with the wrapping. That may turn some off, but if they work, HELL YEAH![close][close]
Interesting! I have 4 sets I bought well over a year ago (maybe longer?) on good holiday sales before the drastic price jumps on skate goods occurred. They're all a shade of the yellower hue.
Have you or anyone else noticed these recent batches with whiter finishes performing any differently? I would think not, but I'm curious
Wonder why Reynolds was the chosen face for 93. I would expect somebody like... Idk, but not him for sure. Always stoked to see Boss stuff
Expand QuoteThe newer F4's of all durometers have all been noticeably whiter from what I've seen. I'm talking batches from about 6 months ago to now.Expand QuoteThose (presumably) samples Spanky got have a noticeably whiter finish to the wheel than the traditional yellower/browner finish on F4 wheels that we're used to seeing. Unless, I'm confusing it with the wrapping. That may turn some off, but if they work, HELL YEAH![close][close]
Interesting! I have 4 sets I bought well over a year ago (maybe longer?) on good holiday sales before the drastic price jumps on skate goods occurred. They're all a shade of the yellower hue.
Have you or anyone else noticed these recent batches with whiter finishes performing any differently? I would think not, but I'm curious
Expand QuoteI'm curious about one thing. Will changing direction over a barely wet surface make you eat totally shit like the dragons do?
With the dragon any trace of damp will cause you to slip out
The 97s spits have zero problems with soaking wet surfaces I did it the other night. Might've been yesterday?
For a dry warm day tho. Those 58x33 dragons fuckin slide. I prefer them to the stf and the spf for slides. I love it all tho. A slide is a slide. It just so happened that f4 of all three current formulas is the top slide.
It's fuckin perfect amount of grip and slip. :o Id marry it if I didn't already get married to macaroni and cheese in the 3rd grade.[close]
If you really try to then you probably will. I never experienced this with dragons and I usually skate at pretty high speeds because I love to cruise around haulin ass and we've bunch of hills for downhill action. F4 97s definitely grip better but they're also noticeably slower everywhere.
Wonder why Reynolds was the chosen face for 93. I would expect somebody like... Idk, but not him for sure. Always stoked to see Boss stuff
Any guess to when these will be available?
Just skated my sample 93a 56mm radials. They're nice I like em. Functionally they're very similar to dragons but feel a lil more like the f4 spitfire kinda formula which is nice. Still bouncy like a softer wheel though.
Maybe a tad harder than dragons too, not sure didn't do a side by side. Pretty certain they grip/drag on rails and ledges a lil less than dragons too which is great. But definitely still noticeably more than a 99a f4. Probably a tad more than a 97a f4 I think.
Skated rough ground and they felt really fast and held speed great. Not sure if they will feel gummy or slow on smooth ish ground, can report back, but my instincts say they will feel fine.
So great wheel, powerslides great, feels great. But unsurprisingly not a replacement for 99a f4 if you need certain hard wheel characteristics
Expand QuoteJust skated my sample 93a 56mm radials. They're nice I like em. Functionally they're very similar to dragons but feel a lil more like the f4 spitfire kinda formula which is nice. Still bouncy like a softer wheel though.
Maybe a tad harder than dragons too, not sure didn't do a side by side. Pretty certain they grip/drag on rails and ledges a lil less than dragons too which is great. But definitely still noticeably more than a 99a f4. Probably a tad more than a 97a f4 I think.
Skated rough ground and they felt really fast and held speed great. Not sure if they will feel gummy or slow on smooth ish ground, can report back, but my instincts say they will feel fine.
So great wheel, powerslides great, feels great. But unsurprisingly not a replacement for 99a f4 if you need certain hard wheel characteristics[close]
Sick. So you got a demo pack ? Presume you didn't get any info on release dates ?
Classic and radial shapes will be available early next month.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteJust skated my sample 93a 56mm radials. They're nice I like em. Functionally they're very similar to dragons but feel a lil more like the f4 spitfire kinda formula which is nice. Still bouncy like a softer wheel though.
Maybe a tad harder than dragons too, not sure didn't do a side by side. Pretty certain they grip/drag on rails and ledges a lil less than dragons too which is great. But definitely still noticeably more than a 99a f4. Probably a tad more than a 97a f4 I think.
Skated rough ground and they felt really fast and held speed great. Not sure if they will feel gummy or slow on smooth ish ground, can report back, but my instincts say they will feel fine.
So great wheel, powerslides great, feels great. But unsurprisingly not a replacement for 99a f4 if you need certain hard wheel characteristics[close]
Sick. So you got a demo pack ? Presume you didn't get any info on release dates ?[close]
Guessing you didn't see this post back up the page a bit?Expand Quote
Classic and radial shapes will be available early next month.[close]
Also guessing you are still in UK, so although USA might be getting some soon enough, it might be a few months before the Soft Sliders roll out across the globe, for you there, EU and here in Australia, I would imagine that they would be out in maybe a few months at the earliest, but more likely six months as per everything else with current drops in USA and a longer wait everywhere else round the world.
* Note: I could be totally wrong with this, but it seems about right with wheels like Sapphires and some others.
Confirmed by Reynolds. The release is April, as someone earlier mentioned.Expand QuoteWonder why Reynolds was the chosen face for 93. I would expect somebody like... Idk, but not him for sure. Always stoked to see Boss stuff[close]
Just a theory but maybe because he is older pro and the new genre of softer wheels that still slide is kinda catered to older skaters because the softer wheels are more gentle on the joints
Said post:
https://www.instagram.com/p/C4qRqotukXM/?hl=en
(https://i.ibb.co/sj857V2/Screenshot-2024-03-18-093524.png) (https://ibb.co/sj857V2)
Just skated my sample 93a 56mm radials. They're nice I like em. Functionally they're very similar to dragons but feel a lil more like the f4 spitfire kinda formula which is nice. Still bouncy like a softer wheel though.
Maybe a tad harder than dragons too, not sure didn't do a side by side. Pretty certain they grip/drag on rails and ledges a lil less than dragons too which is great. But definitely still noticeably more than a 99a f4. Probably a tad more than a 97a f4 I think.
Skated rough ground and they felt really fast and held speed great. Not sure if they will feel gummy or slow on smooth ish ground, can report back, but my instincts say they will feel fine.
So great wheel, powerslides great, feels great. But unsurprisingly not a replacement for 99a f4 if you need certain hard wheel characteristics
My question for Dragon/ Soft Slider type of wheels is this?
How do they grip on super slick surfaces like indoor skate parks?
I currently use the F4 97s for a bit more grip in slippery circumstances.
I thought I had a fever dream about 93 F4 samples on IG. Woke up and looked everywhere but couldn’t find it. It was secretape now that I’m here in this thread. Thought my wheel madness was complete with the 97 F4s and Dragons. Now you tell me it’s true? And they’re coming in April?
Or am I still dreaming?
Radial shape has 56 and 58
Likely will be a radial full. I feel your pain as a conical rider. Don’t even have an option for a 97a at the moment.
Classic and radial shapes will be available early next month.
Expand QuoteRadial shape has 56 and 58[close]
it's just radial, not a radial full right? i don't really like the wide ass wheels
Likely will be a radial full. I feel your pain as a conical rider. Don’t even have an option for a 97a at the moment.
That’s the thing I don’t mesh well with wide wheels like conical fulls, but I’d like a 97du conical option which isn’t available.Expand QuoteLikely will be a radial full. I feel your pain as a conical rider. Don’t even have an option for a 97a at the moment.[close]
They still do Conical Full 97 duro in 54, 56 and 58 mm, as well as Conical and Conical Full in most sizes in 99 and 101.
Often they don't put all their offerings on the current catalogs, but I think those wheels will still be a very common size and shape, most people going with 54 or 56 mm sizes, from what I have seen.
Said post:
https://www.instagram.com/p/C4qRqotukXM/?hl=en
(https://i.ibb.co/sj857V2/Screenshot-2024-03-18-093524.png) (https://ibb.co/sj857V2)
Not gonna lie, I film a lot and a lot in areas with hills so a sliding filmer wheel is a fucking necessity, which is why I have been riding Dragons like a year and a half ago and those are amazing. But not gonna lie that I sanded down the graphics in both sets I've had because I'm not really a Bones/Powell fan and the Dragon graphics suck.
I only skate Spitfires on my normal board so having a Spitfire that does the sliding cruiser wheel thing which Powell definitely re-defined shit over with is amazing! I'm so glad we now have the Spitfire version!!
Have they tweaked the formula for these 93s then?
As lots of people (here) don’t find F4 97s easy at sliding, or fast on smooth stuff?
Wouldn’t a F4 93 be even stickier and gummier and not much like an F4 at all? If they have improved the lower duros… can kind of see them dropping the 97s eventually as a stop-gap.
(me - I ride the F497, think they slide and roll fine, tiny bit gripper but the serviceability on crust makes up… but Dragons x97 -and- 93a are has to be said -much- faster ‘one push’ on wood & smooth park out the gate).
Have they tweaked the formula for these 93s then?
As lots of people (here) don’t find F4 97s easy at sliding, or fast on smooth stuff?
Wouldn’t a F4 93 be even stickier and gummier and not much like an F4 at all? If they have improved the lower duros… can kind of see them dropping the 97s eventually as a stop-gap.
(me - I ride the F497, think they slide and roll fine, tiny bit gripper but the serviceability on crust makes up… but Dragons x97 -and- 93a are has to be said -much- faster ‘one push’ on wood & smooth park out the gate).
I just hope the wide wheel fad dies soon.
Expand QuoteI just hope the wide wheel fad dies soon.[close]
...and radial slims become available again.
I just hope the wide wheel fad dies soon.I put my 52 classics on again after only riding 54 and 56 conical fulls and og classics for the past 2 years and I could not stay locked into crooks on them. I may have unknowingly converted fully to big chonky wheels. Not having to push as much is also a nice plus.
Just radial, not the full version.
I rode some conical full samples so they are coming potentially.
Classic Reynolds 52/53/54
Radial 56/58
There is, my apologies.Expand QuoteJust radial, not the full version.
I rode some conical full samples so they are coming potentially.
Classic Reynolds 52/53/54
Radial 56/58[close]
No radial in 54? In the spitfire instagram post, it shows a non-Reynolds wheel labeled “54”. So I assumed that was the radial graphic
No worries. I only ask because I’m already riding 54mm Radials, and loving that shape. Hyped for these 93sThere is, my apologies.Expand QuoteNo radial in 54? In the spitfire instagram post, it shows a non-Reynolds wheel labeled “54”. So I assumed that was the radial graphicExpand QuoteJust radial, not the full version.
I rode some conical full samples so they are coming potentially.
Classic Reynolds 52/53/54
Radial 56/58[close][close]
.twas me lol
Couldn't help but laugh as someone posted "Dragon slayers" in the Spitfire comments.
Fukin gold!!!!!
I just hope the wide wheel fad dies soon.
Val Surf has all the 93a wheels except for the 54mm Radial:
https://valsurf.com/search?q=93a&filter.p.vendor=Spitfire
Expand QuoteVal Surf has all the 93a wheels except for the 54mm Radial:
https://valsurf.com/search?q=93a&filter.p.vendor=Spitfire[close]
Gone. maybe they put them up too soon?
They don't officially drop until the 1st.
Expand QuoteI just hope the wide wheel fad dies soon.[close]
I really dont see issue with it. There's bunch of slimmer wheel shapes available for those who dont fan out chunky wheels.
og classics get really sharp edges when they wear down…
right?
og classics get really sharp edges when they wear down…
right?
Expand Quoteog classics get really sharp edges when they wear down…
right?[close]
Skating f4 classic 52's. They are probably 50's by now. No sharp edges.
og classics get really sharp edges when they wear down…
right?
Expand Quoteog classics get really sharp edges when they wear down…
right?[close]
I keep hearing about the classic fulls but I must have hibernating when they were a thing. What years were those out?
Any wheel worn down enough can get very squared off, but the OG Classics are very sharp and often chunk out on the edges when they wear down some, so they don't last as long as others, like normal Classics which can be worn down a lot and still feel ok.
Wheels that are rounded that stay roundish / not sharp when they wear down:
Classics
Classic Full
Radials
Radial Full
Wheels that get really sharp or often jagged edges when they wear down:
Tablets
OG Classics
Conical
Conical Full
Lock Ins
I keep hearing about the classic fulls but I must have hibernating when they were a thing. What years were those out?
og classics get really sharp edges when they wear down…
right?
Expand Quoteog classics get really sharp edges when they wear down…
right?[close]
Yes. Takes a while though. At least with 58s. That's the only set I've had. Purple and green. I need some gold now.
Expand QuoteJust radial, not the full version.
I rode some conical full samples so they are coming potentially.
Classic Reynolds 52/53/54
Radial 56/58[close]
No radial in 54? In the spitfire instagram post, it shows a non-Reynolds wheel labeled “54”. So I assumed that was the radial graphic
Did Spitfire wheels increase their price recently in your countries? In Japan they are ¥1000 (about $8) more expensive than a few months ago.Yeah they’ve been steadily rising here in the US. In the DadBoard video I referenced above, he nonchalantly mentions something like “if you’re going to pay $50 for a set of wheels, I want you to be informed” so I’m guessing these 93s are going to be even more expensive than the 99/101 F4s.
Did Spitfire wheels increase their price recently in your countries? In Japan they are ¥1000 (about $8) more expensive than a few months ago.Yes I heard we will be paying $90 in Canada soon and my local said he is probably not going to be ordering spitfire anymore :(
Did Spitfire wheels increase their price recently in your countries? In Japan they are ¥1000 (about $8) more expensive than a few months ago.
When ValSurf had the 93a wheels for sale (until 20 minutes after I posted a link), they were all priced at ~$40 from the 52mm Reynolds Classics to the 58 mm Radial. The price people pay is going to depend on the shop, but they shouldn’t be priced differently than other F4 wheels.Yeah they’ve been steadily rising here in the US. In the DadBoard video I referenced above, he nonchalantly mentions something like “if you’re going to pay $50 for a set of wheels, I want you to be informed” so I’m guessing these 93s are going to be even more expensive than the 99/101 F4s.Expand QuoteDid Spitfire wheels increase their price recently in your countries? In Japan they are ¥1000 (about $8) more expensive than a few months ago.[close]
Expand QuoteExpand Quoteog classics get really sharp edges when they wear down…
right?[close]
Yes. Takes a while though. At least with 58s. That's the only set I've had. Purple and green. I need some gold now.[close]
had the purple 58s too, they look like shit below 55mm
https://youtu.be/S0Fn_H7YqAw?feature=shared (https://youtu.be/S0Fn_H7YqAw?feature=shared)
Expand Quotehttps://youtu.be/S0Fn_H7YqAw?feature=shared (https://youtu.be/S0Fn_H7YqAw?feature=shared)[close]
Idky YouTube hasn't ever suggested this channel
Holy smokes they have the dope lil black line graphic!
https://youtu.be/nhi2lXmvm5Y?feature=shared
6:15
93 58mm radial sample
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1P9Izd-MiJc&t=40s
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sick can't wait
here's a time stamp where he holds up the flyer with shapes/sizes
https://youtu.be/1P9Izd-MiJc?t=685
Expand QuoteExpand Quotehttps://youtu.be/S0Fn_H7YqAw?feature=shared (https://youtu.be/S0Fn_H7YqAw?feature=shared)[close]
Idky YouTube hasn't ever suggested this channel
Holy smokes they have the dope lil black line graphic![close]
there was a youtube link on this thread:Expand Quotehttps://youtu.be/nhi2lXmvm5Y?feature=shared
6:15
93 58mm radial sample[close]
i followed the channel, in the end, yes, he can powerslide.
Yeah stoked to try these especially after the reviews I've read here about them. Gotta ask my local about them as he told me no one besides me rides classics around here so will have to ask him to get the 52's for me.
Expand QuoteYeah stoked to try these especially after the reviews I've read here about them. Gotta ask my local about them as he told me no one besides me rides classics around here so will have to ask him to get the 52's for me.[close]
damn nobody else in the entire area buys classics?
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteYeah stoked to try these especially after the reviews I've read here about them. Gotta ask my local about them as he told me no one besides me rides classics around here so will have to ask him to get the 52's for me.[close]
damn nobody else in the entire area buys classics?[close]
Nope. The ones he has in store are on sale (€50 instead of €70 or whatever) as literally I'm the only one who buys them now. Everyone else is wide wheels.
Classics are only like .5mm skinnier than conical fulls
They all end up pretty much the same in the end for the most part between radial, classic, and conical full.
Expand QuoteClassics are only like .5mm skinnier than conical fulls
They all end up pretty much the same in the end for the most part between radial, classic, and conical full.[close]
I know this is hyperbole but the 54mm Classics have a 16.5mm riding surface while the 54mm Conical Fulls have a 22mm riding surface so they are 33% larger which is pretty significant.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteClassics are only like .5mm skinnier than conical fulls
They all end up pretty much the same in the end for the most part between radial, classic, and conical full.[close]
I know this is hyperbole but the 54mm Classics have a 16.5mm riding surface while the 54mm Conical Fulls have a 22mm riding surface so they are 33% larger which is pretty significant.[close]
i think he meant like overall width, not contact patch.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteClassics are only like .5mm skinnier than conical fulls
They all end up pretty much the same in the end for the most part between radial, classic, and conical full.[close]
I know this is hyperbole but the 54mm Classics have a 16.5mm riding surface while the 54mm Conical Fulls have a 22mm riding surface so they are 33% larger which is pretty significant.[close]
i think he meant like overall width, not contact patch.[close]
yep exactly. once you wear it down, then the riding surface is just going to be the overall width
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteClassics are only like .5mm skinnier than conical fulls
They all end up pretty much the same in the end for the most part between radial, classic, and conical full.[close]
I know this is hyperbole but the 54mm Classics have a 16.5mm riding surface while the 54mm Conical Fulls have a 22mm riding surface so they are 33% larger which is pretty significant.[close]
i think he meant like overall width, not contact patch.[close]
yep exactly. once you wear it down, then the riding surface is just going to be the overall width[close]
I don't know how accurate the illustrations are in this guide are but it would take a pretty long time to get down to the max with of a classic due to the roundness of the outside walls. It's true that the classic is only 1mm thinner in total width but you would have to skate a 54mm down to like a 40mm before hitting the total width where a conical full would hit the total width way sooner (or just any width wider than its default riding surface width). I don't know if a classic would ever catch up to a conical full.
https://www.spitfirewheels.com/formulafour/
Saying all that, I do ultimately agree that I don't think wheel shape makes as big of a difference as people think though. Like the idea that kick flips are easier with a rounded wheel. Whose wheels are still on the ground when the board starts flipping? That doesn't really make sense. I think the main difference would just be weight and grip but you could get used to that pretty quickly if both wheels were the same formula.
i ride my wheels down that far, maybe we should start a new thread for this lol. ill post pics when i get home. i have 51mm classics worn down to ~40mm and it took me less than 6 months, and 54mm conical full worn down to ~48mm which was not my main board and that took me about a year.
Expand Quoteog classics get really sharp edges when they wear down…
right?[close]
Yes. Takes a while though. At least with 58s. That's the only set I've had. Purple and green. I need some gold now.
Expand Quotei ride my wheels down that far, maybe we should start a new thread for this lol. ill post pics when i get home. i have 51mm classics worn down to ~40mm and it took me less than 6 months, and 54mm conical full worn down to ~48mm which was not my main board and that took me about a year.[close]
That would be interesting to see. I could only find side by side images of brand new wheels and not skated. The conical fulls seem so much more square but it's also possible that the round out after being skated bringing them closer to classics. I'm not sure any of this matters but the minutia is interesting.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteClassics are only like .5mm skinnier than conical fulls
They all end up pretty much the same in the end for the most part between radial, classic, and conical full.[close]
I know this is hyperbole but the 54mm Classics have a 16.5mm riding surface while the 54mm Conical Fulls have a 22mm riding surface so they are 33% larger which is pretty significant.[close]
i think he meant like overall width, not contact patch.[close]
yep exactly. once you wear it down, then the riding surface is just going to be the overall width[close]
I don't know how accurate the illustrations are in this guide are but it would take a pretty long time to get down to the max with of a classic due to the roundness of the outside walls. It's true that the classic is only 1mm thinner in total width but you would have to skate a 54mm down to like a 40mm before hitting the total width where a conical full would hit the total width way sooner (or just any width wider than its default riding surface width). I don't know if a classic would ever catch up to a conical full.
https://www.spitfirewheels.com/formulafour/
Saying all that, I do ultimately agree that I don't think wheel shape makes as big of a difference as people think though. Like the idea that kick flips are easier with a rounded wheel. Whose wheels are still on the ground when the board starts flipping? That doesn't really make sense. I think the main difference would just be weight and grip but you could get used to that pretty quickly if both wheels were the same formula.[close]
it might be a task to track down, but i'm 99% sure someone has posted pics on here of a worn down set of wheels they calipered along with a fresh set specifically on this subject
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quoteog classics get really sharp edges when they wear down…
right?[close]
Yes. Takes a while though. At least with 58s. That's the only set I've had. Purple and green. I need some gold now.[close]
had the purple 58s too, they look like shit below 55mm[close]
I agree. They was my fall back piece wheel till my last two purchases. That really sharp edge is meh I guess.
Looks like a Zombu wheel tho. That's kinda cool.
I seen Dad Boards video today on the 93s. He said the radials come in 58.
I can't wait to see a set. Especially since the 97s are so bad ass. And he said they don't bounce like as bad as a dragon.
The sapphires was less bounty than the 80ds.
I should probably look to see if there's a Thorne video too. Ben Dad and Thorne are my main combined video source for product testing. As they are all similar to me in different ways.
Also
I'm assuming the 58 radial is going to be about 33 34mm wide since full isn't in the title.
That's sick if it's true.
I'd like a 1/1 swap for my dragons. Which I enjoyed but definitely prefer Spit products. It's my shit. I liked pig too.
I'm just going to give the dragons to my brothers kids see if a soft wheel sparks interest. If it doesn't I'll take um back.
Hahahaha. Lil POSERS wanna play Roblox ::)
They gotta earn the Spits. Old or not
If I could power slide again on skatepark smooth, that would be great. The x97’s are a real pain the ass, and when they do slide they make zero noise.
On asphalt and rough concrete they do great.
Hoping to see the updated Dadboard review in a month of his skating the f4 93’s
I'm pretty sure I'm copping a set. This month is gonna be a good ass month.
Definitely depends on I can get 58s or better.
This is April coming up right
(https://i.ibb.co/9tHW1mm/Spitfire-93-tester-wheels-A.jpg) (https://ibb.co/VmYTz00)
He set up the wrong risers for sure.
Will the 93 bluntslide or will they be sticky on blunts like dragons????
If they slide, instant buy
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His riser positioning made me die a little inside...did he get universals/ventures and not the made for thunders?
https://youtu.be/S0Fn_H7YqAw?t=484
Expand QuoteHe set up the wrong risers for sure.[close]
For sure wrong, but (I've never seen any of the 3-ply real risers first hand) even if he switched them around they still wouldn't line up 1:1?
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His riser positioning made me die a little inside...did he get universals/ventures and not the made for thunders?
https://youtu.be/S0Fn_H7YqAw?t=484[close]Expand QuoteExpand QuoteHe set up the wrong risers for sure.[close]
For sure wrong, but (I've never seen any of the 3-ply real risers first hand) even if he switched them around they still wouldn't line up 1:1?[close]
I guess because I pay attention to all the little things, I find it almost unwatchable / laughable / sad that some people really don't even do just a little research to get a bit more of an understanding about skate product and it really shows here in his last few videos, the unboxing of the DLX package, the setup video, which I didn't watch past getting a pic of those wheels and then as others say, the finished product. I don't want to sound rude, but goodness he comes off as a bit of an idiot with so little product knowledge of anything that he gets out or looks at, then more so with that setup video.
He skates with and films with Ben de Gros, who could well be one of the most detailed and knowledgeable people posting videos and information, so it is almost like two opposites when I watch both of them at times.
Re those Real risers, sure they might not have had the correct risers in stock at whatever shop he went to - there are Thunder specific (blue), Venture specific (green) and Universal (yellow - Indy specific without saying it) which are pretty clearly labelled on the website, but even a number of other brands that have the long holes will fit Thunders well, so I will just leave it at that.
Any which way, I will still be super keen on those wheels and I did like the look of them for sure!
Link to those Real risers:
https://www.realskateboards.com/summer-2023/
(https://www.realskateboards.com/img/2023/rs-sum-23-d1-06.png)
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quote[close]
His riser positioning made me die a little inside...did he get universals/ventures and not the made for thunders?
https://youtu.be/S0Fn_H7YqAw?t=484[close]Expand QuoteExpand QuoteHe set up the wrong risers for sure.[close]
For sure wrong, but (I've never seen any of the 3-ply real risers first hand) even if he switched them around they still wouldn't line up 1:1?[close]
I guess because I pay attention to all the little things, I find it almost unwatchable / laughable / sad that some people really don't even do just a little research to get a bit more of an understanding about skate product and it really shows here in his last few videos, the unboxing of the DLX package, the setup video, which I didn't watch past getting a pic of those wheels and then as others say, the finished product. I don't want to sound rude, but goodness he comes off as a bit of an idiot with so little product knowledge of anything that he gets out or looks at, then more so with that setup video.
He skates with and films with Ben de Gros, who could well be one of the most detailed and knowledgeable people posting videos and information, so it is almost like two opposites when I watch both of them at times.
Re those Real risers, sure they might not have had the correct risers in stock at whatever shop he went to - there are Thunder specific (blue), Venture specific (green) and Universal (yellow - Indy specific without saying it) which are pretty clearly labelled on the website, but even a number of other brands that have the long holes will fit Thunders well, so I will just leave it at that.
Any which way, I will still be super keen on those wheels and I did like the look of them for sure!
Link to those Real risers:
https://www.realskateboards.com/summer-2023/
(https://www.realskateboards.com/img/2023/rs-sum-23-d1-06.png)[close]
His are green so he was sent the Venture risers so even if he flipped them they'd be off (but waaaay better); I agree his videos are tough to watch - like the pros that speak of their indy titanium baseplates =D
His are green so he was sent the Venture risers so even if he flipped them they'd be off (but waaaay better); I agree his videos are tough to watch - like the pros that speak of their indy titanium baseplates =D
The most frustrating shit is hearing an actual pro skater talk about their gear and get it wrong. I guess that shit probably matters less to a lot of them since they just skate it and don’t go through board madness trying to figure out how to optimize their wheel shape in order to scoop tre flips
Tactics has the new 93's up for sale a little early.Rad, can’t wait to try these. Gonna support the local though first, and wait.
https://www.tactics.com/spitfire/reynolds-pro-formula-four-93-classic-skateboard-wheels/natural-silver-93d
https://www.tactics.com/spitfire/formula-four-93-radial-skateboard-wheels/natural-93d
Rad, can’t wait to try these. Gonna support the local though first, and wait.Expand QuoteTactics has the new 93's up for sale a little early.
https://www.tactics.com/spitfire/reynolds-pro-formula-four-93-classic-skateboard-wheels/natural-silver-93d
https://www.tactics.com/spitfire/formula-four-93-radial-skateboard-wheels/natural-93d[close]
$47?!!!!!! :o
Daaaayum.
Expand QuoteRad, can’t wait to try these. Gonna support the local though first, and wait.Expand QuoteTactics has the new 93's up for sale a little early.
https://www.tactics.com/spitfire/reynolds-pro-formula-four-93-classic-skateboard-wheels/natural-silver-93d
https://www.tactics.com/spitfire/formula-four-93-radial-skateboard-wheels/natural-93d[close]
$47?!!!!!! :o
Daaaayum.[close]
Gotta pay to play!
Tactics Spit wheel pricing is all over the place....you start thinking it's based on wheels size...but then nope...softer duro F4s cost more and then more if they are bigger...93a radials 58mm are $48.95...even the 97a are more than 99s...(unless on sale).
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His riser positioning made me die a little inside...did he get universals/ventures and not the made for thunders?
https://youtu.be/S0Fn_H7YqAw?t=484[close]Expand QuoteExpand QuoteHe set up the wrong risers for sure.[close]
For sure wrong, but (I've never seen any of the 3-ply real risers first hand) even if he switched them around they still wouldn't line up 1:1?[close]
I guess because I pay attention to all the little things, I find it almost unwatchable / laughable / sad that some people really don't even do just a little research to get a bit more of an understanding about skate product and it really shows here in his last few videos, the unboxing of the DLX package, the setup video, which I didn't watch past getting a pic of those wheels and then as others say, the finished product. I don't want to sound rude, but goodness he comes off as a bit of an idiot with so little product knowledge of anything that he gets out or looks at, then more so with that setup video.
This was an initial review I made for deluxe this summer when I received the sample.
Not comfortable talking into the camera but just my 2 cents on the formula.
https://youtu.be/XI7tsRNe-7c?si=107KWLQCzn1rZf_7
This was an initial review I made for deluxe this summer when I received the sample.
Not comfortable talking into the camera but just my 2 cents on the formula.
https://youtu.be/XI7tsRNe-7c?si=107KWLQCzn1rZf_7
what do you think the chances are that the Skatepark of Tampa would have these wheels by Friday...? :-X REALLLY hoping I can get some while I am on my trip cause we are not gonna see these in Canada til Christmas time im guessing :'(You can't order somewhere and give as the delivery address wherever you'll be staying in Tampa?
I DM'd and they said there is basically zero chance they would not get a Reynolds wheel in stock at first available chance so I am keeping my fingers crossed!
You can't order somewhere and give as the delivery address wherever you'll be staying in Tampa?Expand Quotewhat do you think the chances are that the Skatepark of Tampa would have these wheels by Friday...? :-X REALLLY hoping I can get some while I am on my trip cause we are not gonna see these in Canada til Christmas time im guessing :'(
I DM'd and they said there is basically zero chance they would not get a Reynolds wheel in stock at first available chance so I am keeping my fingers crossed![close]
You could pay some express thing to be completely sure, I'd go for it.Expand QuoteYou can't order somewhere and give as the delivery address wherever you'll be staying in Tampa?Expand Quotewhat do you think the chances are that the Skatepark of Tampa would have these wheels by Friday...? :-X REALLLY hoping I can get some while I am on my trip cause we are not gonna see these in Canada til Christmas time im guessing :'(
I DM'd and they said there is basically zero chance they would not get a Reynolds wheel in stock at first available chance so I am keeping my fingers crossed![close][close]
What do you think the chances of doing something like that are of failing? I am scared i wouldnt get there in time... WHere I live in Canada I would not risk it but this is a different world to me. i am going to start looking into this now.
This was an initial review I made for deluxe this summer when I received the sample.
Not comfortable talking into the camera but just my 2 cents on the formula.
https://youtu.be/XI7tsRNe-7c?si=107KWLQCzn1rZf_7
Pals, I’ve been helping test this wheel for a few months.
We have them on the site today. The bigger radials only have a few. Classic Reynolds 54 and radial 54 we have more.
https://www.35thave.com/module/search_content.htm?form_version=2&showSearchResults=1&search_keyword=Soft+slider&image.x=0&image.y=0
Pals, I’ve been helping test this wheel for a few months.
We have them on the site today. The bigger radials only have a few. Classic Reynolds 54 and radial 54 we have more.
https://www.35thave.com/module/search_content.htm?form_version=2&showSearchResults=1&search_keyword=Soft+slider&image.x=0&image.y=0
Expand QuoteThis was an initial review I made for deluxe this summer when I received the sample.
Not comfortable talking into the camera but just my 2 cents on the formula.
https://youtu.be/XI7tsRNe-7c?si=107KWLQCzn1rZf_7[close]
Just keeping it real with you, I’d watch if you did more reviews like that. You may not be comfortable talking on camera but you’re very relatable and articulate. Just something to consider. YouTube needs more genuine people and less of that zany shit.
Thanks! Fixed that. We don’t use the manufacturer aspect as much as we should, appreciate the feedback.Expand QuotePals, I’ve been helping test this wheel for a few months.
We have them on the site today. The bigger radials only have a few. Classic Reynolds 54 and radial 54 we have more.
https://www.35thave.com/module/search_content.htm?form_version=2&showSearchResults=1&search_keyword=Soft+slider&image.x=0&image.y=0[close]
As a heads up, looks like you’ve got them listed under Burton as the brand. Don’t want anything to get thrown off with your inventory/spreadsheets.
you sound like such a snob... sorry not everyone is a gear nerd and knows about every single product on the market
btw you gave someone incorrect measurements for the limo 8.25 on this post:
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=120185.msg4178697#msg4178697
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you sound like such a snob... sorry not everyone is a gear nerd and knows about every single product on the market
btw you gave someone incorrect measurements for the limo 8.25 on this post:
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=120185.msg4178697#msg4178697[close]
Yeah, that is quite ok - everyone has opinions and I have no problem with that, but if you are going to post something to a youtube channel and you want to actually sound like you have a clue, a little bit of prior knowledge goes a long way.
For any other normal person, of course no one (myself included) knows everything and yes I get some things wrong and that is also ok, because I am not trying to make a living from posting youtube videos, or have associated business interests invested in skateboarding.
Can I be a bit of a snob with regard to skateboard product, for myself, maybe, but when dealing with the general public especially with regard to their own interests and preferences - absolutely not, so it is usually down to what they like and want, not what I would say to them to get, which I have to say, I have heard all too often from people saying the shop guy was trying to sell them something they didn't really want.
As an example, not everyone rides Spitfire wheels, Indy trucks and Antihero boards in Vans shoes and Dickies pants - help us all if we did on that one - but I guess there will always be those people who push their own preference of brands on others, which is a little bit sad, to say the least.
* Also those measurements came straight from the Limo site, so maybe take it up with them?
https://limosineskateboards.com/
Thanks for the message.
:)
check the website again, the 8.25 is 8.25" x 31.82", 14.13" Wheelbase
not '8.25" x 32.25" with a 14.4" WB' as you incorrectly stated
Who is this kook calling Brimmo a snob?
So I think one major complaint of the dragons has been that they grab a bit when grinding Metal, like coping or a flatbar ….i’m curious as to if the 93 spitfires are any better, would love to hear anyone’s thoughtsA post from a few pages back:
Just skated my sample 93a 56mm radials. They're nice I like em. Functionally they're very similar to dragons but feel a lil more like the f4 spitfire kinda formula which is nice. Still bouncy like a softer wheel though.
Maybe a tad harder than dragons too, not sure didn't do a side by side. Pretty certain they grip/drag on rails and ledges a lil less than dragons too which is great. But definitely still noticeably more than a 99a f4. Probably a tad more than a 97a f4 I think.
Skated rough ground and they felt really fast and held speed great. Not sure if they will feel gummy or slow on smooth ish ground, can report back, but my instincts say they will feel fine.
So great wheel, powerslides great, feels great. But unsurprisingly not a replacement for 99a f4 if you need certain hard wheel characteristics
A post from a few pages back:Expand QuoteSo I think one major complaint of the dragons has been that they grab a bit when grinding Metal, like coping or a flatbar ….i’m curious as to if the 93 spitfires are any better, would love to hear anyone’s thoughts[close]Expand QuoteJust skated my sample 93a 56mm radials. They're nice I like em. Functionally they're very similar to dragons but feel a lil more like the f4 spitfire kinda formula which is nice. Still bouncy like a softer wheel though.
Maybe a tad harder than dragons too, not sure didn't do a side by side. Pretty certain they grip/drag on rails and ledges a lil less than dragons too which is great. But definitely still noticeably more than a 99a f4. Probably a tad more than a 97a f4 I think.
Skated rough ground and they felt really fast and held speed great. Not sure if they will feel gummy or slow on smooth ish ground, can report back, but my instincts say they will feel fine.
So great wheel, powerslides great, feels great. But unsurprisingly not a replacement for 99a f4 if you need certain hard wheel characteristics[close]
oops, I Should have watched the Dadboard and 144p reviews before I ordered a set of each (Dragons and F4 93s and saved $40). Seriously though, that was what I hoped for. I'll be using the Dragons on my hillbomber to try and get some record breaking four wheel drifters and use the F4s on my regular board.Right on… please let us know your thoughts on x97 vs f493’s. Especially since your blunt sliding.
I do have to say as far as 'softer' wheel that slide go, the X97s I was given did assist me with some of the best blunt slides I have done in awhile and they slide just fine on nose/ tail slide with Thunders. Hoping the F4 93s are on par with those.
Set up 93a 58mm Radials and took the bus upvalley to an asphalt pumptrack that I've been meaning to check out.That skate must have been amazing. I’m jelly.
It's at a bike park so bunch of rocks, but still super fun. Skated it for probably 30 minutes and then moved over to some wooden features on a concrete slab.
Bunch of skinny features built out of wooden slats. The softer wheels definitely helped roll thru the gaps.
Skated a ton yesterday so didn't do a ton of Ollie tricks, but did some shove its and kickflips out of curiosity. Didn't do any actual power slides, but reverted around and they felt like a skateboard wheel not like a cruiser at all.
The goal was to skate home from there. Should have brought more water, but I did it. Ended up over 20 miles, mostly on a smooth rail-trail. There is a seasonal closure though, and had to skate ~4 miles on the road. Roads here are gnarly as fuck from spiked tires and tire-chains.
(https://i.imgur.com/Pltwhhs.png)
Softer wheels are surely better for long pushes like this but these fit what I'm after.
Set up 93a 58mm Radials and took the bus upvalley to an asphalt pumptrack that I've been meaning to check out.
It's at a bike park so bunch of rocks, but still super fun. Skated it for probably 30 minutes and then moved over to some wooden features on a concrete slab.
Bunch of skinny features built out of wooden slats. The softer wheels definitely helped roll thru the gaps.
Skated a ton yesterday so didn't do a ton of Ollie tricks, but did some shove its and kickflips out of curiosity. Didn't do any actual power slides, but reverted around and they felt like a skateboard wheel not like a cruiser at all.
The goal was to skate home from there. Should have brought more water, but I did it. Ended up over 20 miles, mostly on a smooth rail-trail. There is a seasonal closure though, and had to skate ~4 miles on the road. Roads here are gnarly as fuck from spiked tires and tire-chains.
(https://i.imgur.com/Pltwhhs.png)
Softer wheels are surely better for long pushes like this but these fit what I'm after.
Love it. I've been dabbling in long-distance skates, pump-tracking and hill sliding recently. I appreciate what you are doing.
https://skateparkoftampa.com/spitfire-formula-four-93d-radial-wheels-natural-blue-96381-10444Yay
Paid for em, picking em up Friday!
Now kinda madnessing whether I should have got the 58s instead of the 56s! But I think 56's sitting on Indy Standard 55mm high something about that just seems perfect to me and i used to run only that setup for a really really long time. So I tihnk I made the right choice. I feel like that would be a bit too wheel bitey at 58.
https://skateparkoftampa.com/spitfire-formula-four-93d-radial-wheels-natural-blue-96381-10444
Paid for em, picking em up Friday!
Now kinda madnessing whether I should have got the 58s instead of the 56s! But I think 56's sitting on Indy Standard 55mm high something about that just seems perfect to me and i used to run only that setup for a really really long time. So I tihnk I made the right choice. I feel like that would be a bit too wheel bitey at 58.
I’m gear stupid- what type of skating/skater exactly are these supposed to be good for?
https://www.instagram.com/p/C5TfxU7OXsB/?igsh=MTJ6aTNla2xrZWdncA==
Expand Quotehttps://skateparkoftampa.com/spitfire-formula-four-93d-radial-wheels-natural-blue-96381-10444
Paid for em, picking em up Friday!
Now kinda madnessing whether I should have got the 58s instead of the 56s! But I think 56's sitting on Indy Standard 55mm high something about that just seems perfect to me and i used to run only that setup for a really really long time. So I tihnk I made the right choice. I feel like that would be a bit too wheel bitey at 58.[close]
While I wait for my shipment to arrive, my madness is classic shape vs radial. I've never ridden a spitfire wheel before so probably best I give both a few sessions before committing
I’m gear stupid- what type of skating/skater exactly are these supposed to be good for?
https://www.instagram.com/p/C5TfxU7OXsB/?igsh=MTJ6aTNla2xrZWdncA==
Chris Cole’s brother reviewed the 93a’s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9AbLnbL2cU
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His riser positioning made me die a little inside...did he get universals/ventures and not the made for thunders?
https://youtu.be/S0Fn_H7YqAw?t=484[close]Expand QuoteExpand QuoteHe set up the wrong risers for sure.[close]
For sure wrong, but (I've never seen any of the 3-ply real risers first hand) even if he switched them around they still wouldn't line up 1:1?[close]
I guess because I pay attention to all the little things, I find it almost unwatchable / laughable / sad that some people really don't even do just a little research to get a bit more of an understanding about skate product and it really shows here in his last few videos, the unboxing of the DLX package, the setup video, which I didn't watch past getting a pic of those wheels and then as others say, the finished product. I don't want to sound rude, but goodness he comes off as a bit of an idiot with so little product knowledge of anything that he gets out or looks at, then more so with that setup video.
He skates with and films with Ben de Gros, who could well be one of the most detailed and knowledgeable people posting videos and information, so it is almost like two opposites when I watch both of them at times.
Re those Real risers, sure they might not have had the correct risers in stock at whatever shop he went to - there are Thunder specific (blue), Venture specific (green) and Universal (yellow - Indy specific without saying it) which are pretty clearly labelled on the website, but even a number of other brands that have the long holes will fit Thunders well, so I will just leave it at that.
Any which way, I will still be super keen on those wheels and I did like the look of them for sure!
Link to those Real risers:
https://www.realskateboards.com/summer-2023/
(https://www.realskateboards.com/img/2023/rs-sum-23-d1-06.png)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WaeRM7X_yS4Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quote[close]
His riser positioning made me die a little inside...did he get universals/ventures and not the made for thunders?
https://youtu.be/S0Fn_H7YqAw?t=484[close]Expand QuoteExpand QuoteHe set up the wrong risers for sure.[close]
For sure wrong, but (I've never seen any of the 3-ply real risers first hand) even if he switched them around they still wouldn't line up 1:1?[close]
I guess because I pay attention to all the little things, I find it almost unwatchable / laughable / sad that some people really don't even do just a little research to get a bit more of an understanding about skate product and it really shows here in his last few videos, the unboxing of the DLX package, the setup video, which I didn't watch past getting a pic of those wheels and then as others say, the finished product. I don't want to sound rude, but goodness he comes off as a bit of an idiot with so little product knowledge of anything that he gets out or looks at, then more so with that setup video.
He skates with and films with Ben de Gros, who could well be one of the most detailed and knowledgeable people posting videos and information, so it is almost like two opposites when I watch both of them at times.
Re those Real risers, sure they might not have had the correct risers in stock at whatever shop he went to - there are Thunder specific (blue), Venture specific (green) and Universal (yellow - Indy specific without saying it) which are pretty clearly labelled on the website, but even a number of other brands that have the long holes will fit Thunders well, so I will just leave it at that.
Any which way, I will still be super keen on those wheels and I did like the look of them for sure!
Link to those Real risers:
https://www.realskateboards.com/summer-2023/
(https://www.realskateboards.com/img/2023/rs-sum-23-d1-06.png)[close]
I back these for Venture all day. They last too. I'm like 18 months into a set. Thats like 3 sets of trucks. Mine are round af. It looks cool.
If I can afford it I'd always have a set on. I'm never going back to rubber. This sounds way way better. It's like your wearing nothing at all.
Definitely better than Dragons, tested them on my skatelite quarterpipe today, didn't feel slow and didn't grab my coping.
I was bouncing back and forth between 97's but i might be 93 on all terrains now.
Dragon wheels are insanely fast but sound more longboard and don't slide well on smoother ground,
93 spits worked well on all terrains i skated.
I'll wait until they release these in 56-58mm radial full before I pull the trigger. Riding my 97a's in that shape and they're doing just fine.
Expand QuoteI'll wait until they release these in 56-58mm radial full before I pull the trigger. Riding my 97a's in that shape and they're doing just fine.[close]
That;s what I said. how long do you think you'll last before you pay that pal?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WaeRM7X_yS4Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quote[close]
His riser positioning made me die a little inside...did he get universals/ventures and not the made for thunders?
https://youtu.be/S0Fn_H7YqAw?t=484[close]Expand QuoteExpand QuoteHe set up the wrong risers for sure.[close]
For sure wrong, but (I've never seen any of the 3-ply real risers first hand) even if he switched them around they still wouldn't line up 1:1?[close]
I guess because I pay attention to all the little things, I find it almost unwatchable / laughable / sad that some people really don't even do just a little research to get a bit more of an understanding about skate product and it really shows here in his last few videos, the unboxing of the DLX package, the setup video, which I didn't watch past getting a pic of those wheels and then as others say, the finished product. I don't want to sound rude, but goodness he comes off as a bit of an idiot with so little product knowledge of anything that he gets out or looks at, then more so with that setup video.
He skates with and films with Ben de Gros, who could well be one of the most detailed and knowledgeable people posting videos and information, so it is almost like two opposites when I watch both of them at times.
Re those Real risers, sure they might not have had the correct risers in stock at whatever shop he went to - there are Thunder specific (blue), Venture specific (green) and Universal (yellow - Indy specific without saying it) which are pretty clearly labelled on the website, but even a number of other brands that have the long holes will fit Thunders well, so I will just leave it at that.
Any which way, I will still be super keen on those wheels and I did like the look of them for sure!
Link to those Real risers:
https://www.realskateboards.com/summer-2023/
(https://www.realskateboards.com/img/2023/rs-sum-23-d1-06.png)[close]
I back these for Venture all day. They last too. I'm like 18 months into a set. Thats like 3 sets of trucks. Mine are round af. It looks cool.
If I can afford it I'd always have a set on. I'm never going back to rubber. This sounds way way better. It's like your wearing nothing at all.[close]
Definitely better than Dragons, tested them on my skatelite quarterpipe today, didn't feel slow and didn't grab my coping.
I was bouncing back and forth between 97's but i might be 93 on all terrains now.
Dragon wheels are insanely fast but sound more longboard and don't slide well on smoother ground,
93 spits worked well on all terrains i skated.
I think I'm not getting these anytime soon since it will take a while for these to land in EU shops and I'm sitting on three pairs of Dragons and a few different sets of F4s (gonna sell/give away all my 97s probably). Also while waiting for these the hype will probably settle down a bit and I know for sure if they're worth it replacing my Dragons.
Expand QuoteI think I'm not getting these anytime soon since it will take a while for these to land in EU shops and I'm sitting on three pairs of Dragons and a few different sets of F4s (gonna sell/give away all my 97s probably). Also while waiting for these the hype will probably settle down a bit and I know for sure if they're worth it replacing my Dragons.[close]
V7 distribution posted them two days ago and said soon ..so perhaps next weekend we will have them.
I asked my local to order me some:Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI think I'm not getting these anytime soon since it will take a while for these to land in EU shops and I'm sitting on three pairs of Dragons and a few different sets of F4s (gonna sell/give away all my 97s probably). Also while waiting for these the hype will probably settle down a bit and I know for sure if they're worth it replacing my Dragons.[close]
V7 distribution posted them two days ago and said soon ..so perhaps next weekend we will have them.[close]
Really? I gotta take that back then and see if can get a set.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI think I'm not getting these anytime soon since it will take a while for these to land in EU shops and I'm sitting on three pairs of Dragons and a few different sets of F4s (gonna sell/give away all my 97s probably). Also while waiting for these the hype will probably settle down a bit and I know for sure if they're worth it replacing my Dragons.[close]
V7 distribution posted them two days ago and said soon ..so perhaps next weekend we will have them.[close]
Really? I gotta take that back then and see if can get a set.
Im interested how these compare to the 97s. To me it seems like the sentiment for the 93s is really positive while being very average for the 97s.
As a 99a user that dabbles with 97s due to Pacific NW crust, I tend to agree with the line I always hear that "97s are better on rough ground, but not great for everything else".
For those of you who have already skated both, do the 93s feel faster on smooth ground and slide better than the 97s?
Expand QuoteIm interested how these compare to the 97s. To me it seems like the sentiment for the 93s is really positive while being very average for the 97s.
As a 99a user that dabbles with 97s due to Pacific NW crust, I tend to agree with the line I always hear that "97s are better on rough ground, but not great for everything else".
For those of you who have already skated both, do the 93s feel faster on smooth ground and slide better than the 97s?[close]
Thats a good point, i do tend to throw on the 97s when i skate the local skatelite indoor park
Interested in this take, as well. I skate slick tranny and really dig 97s.
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/937941943080591420/1226254531604647946/PXL_20240406_192805126.jpg?ex=66241987&is=6611a487&hm=d337520a2f3ec3c66f063b43bd7abf5773a82c6576712d88084a1740ad1525cb&)I tried and was disappointed by dragons and I really liked my first and second sessions on the soft sliders. The sound is turned up and they dont screech to a halt on rails and transition coping. I might be sold.
Good wheel so far, has a session at a parking garage and everything felt nice.
To those that don't like Dragons/X Formula, you probably aren't going to like these because they feel very similar to these IMO. Still need more time on them though.
I tried and was disappointed by dragons and I really liked my first and second sessions on the soft sliders. The sound is turned up and they dont screech to a halt on rails and transition coping. I might be sold.
Do Spitfire product reps browse slap? Or is there a contact/comments page to ask them a question?
Was wondering if they're ever likely to make a wheel bearing off-set wheel that increases hangar width. The lockins don't do this as far as I'm aware.
Expand QuoteDo Spitfire product reps browse slap? Or is there a contact/comments page to ask them a question?
Was wondering if they're ever likely to make a wheel bearing off-set wheel that increases hangar width. The lockins don't do this as far as I'm aware.[close]
From DLXSF.COM there is a link on the main page, top right for comments, feedback, etc.
https://www.dlxsf.com/now-its-your-turn/
NOW IT’S YOUR TURN
TELL US WHAT YOU WANT TO SEE, what we should be doing, what we did good or what we messed up. We’ll make every effort to hit you back. This gig is a two-way deal and your input and feedback is not only desired it is f%&ing mandatory. Thanks for being a part.
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The Lock in wheel did that in a few older sets I had, but I think they might have changed the shape of them, so haven't seen any for a while.
Even the Lock In Full is offset, so the "inside" Tablet shaped edge is a couple of mm less than the "outside" Conical shaped edge.
If you are after a narrow wheel, any of the smaller sizes, or the Tablet shape, or even OG Classic is more narrow in overall profile, compared to some others.
I have used an angle grinder to reshape wheels on occasion, usually just to round off the corners, but I have also made some wheels a lot more asymmetrical too, when someone wanted it.
Lastly, one thing that some people have done with various wheels over the years is add extra washers to the inside, up to about five or so, put the wheel on which ever way you want, then put the axle nut on back to front, so the nyloc is on first.
The roller skate people often do this with skateboard wheels - lots use Spitfires - but as their axles are shorter and roller skate wheels are thin fitting, the nuts don't fit on as usual, so they always have to put the nuts on back to front.
It works better if the nut has been put all the way on the axle first, just to get the axle thread going, but once on, it does not come off, so you can run wheels with more washers to give more hanger width.
I just tried this (for fun) with 144s on an 8.5 board, then 149s on an 8.75 board, all with Lock In Full wheels, so the wider wheel completely covered the nut, but it works just as well for anyone.
@Xen
-..I'd say they sound 'crisper' but they don't sound harder...like they have more treble than the bass heavy dragons or x99s...so louder? This is also at play when you are pushing.
Do Spitfire product reps browse slap? Or is there a contact/comments page to ask them a question?
Was wondering if they're ever likely to make a wheel bearing off-set wheel that increases hangar width. The lockins don't do this as far as I'm aware.
Im interested how these compare to the 97s. To me it seems like the sentiment for the 93s is really positive while being very average for the 97s.
As a 99a user that dabbles with 97s due to Pacific NW crust, I tend to agree with the line I always hear that "97s are better on rough ground, but not great for everything else".
For those of you who have already skated both, do the 93s feel faster on smooth ground and slide better than the 97s?
@XenExpand Quote
-..I'd say they sound 'crisper' but they don't sound harder...like they have more treble than the bass heavy dragons or x99s...so louder? This is also at play when you are pushing.[close]
That’s all I needed to read. Bless you.
@Mbrimson88
Nuts on backwards? What is this sorcery? :o that just feels wrong. Haha
Very little info. Just saw the Fall drop 1 catalog.
“Reformulated for slide and speed.” Radial shape in 55 and 57. Pedro Delfino model. I know he digs the current 97a.
Expand QuoteIm interested how these compare to the 97s. To me it seems like the sentiment for the 93s is really positive while being very average for the 97s.
As a 99a user that dabbles with 97s due to Pacific NW crust, I tend to agree with the line I always hear that "97s are better on rough ground, but not great for everything else".
For those of you who have already skated both, do the 93s feel faster on smooth ground and slide better than the 97s?[close]
Exactly what I wanna know
Very little info. Just saw the Fall drop 1 catalog.Can you post or link the catalogue?
“Reformulated for slide and speed.” Radial shape in 55 and 57. Pedro Delfino model. I know he digs the current 97a.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteIm interested how these compare to the 97s. To me it seems like the sentiment for the 93s is really positive while being very average for the 97s.
As a 99a user that dabbles with 97s due to Pacific NW crust, I tend to agree with the line I always hear that "97s are better on rough ground, but not great for everything else".
For those of you who have already skated both, do the 93s feel faster on smooth ground and slide better than the 97s?[close]
Exactly what I wanna know[close]
I skated 97a 53 classics for about a month and just skated the 93a 54 radial for about 2 hours. Better in smoothness, slide and holding speed. I skated them on rough asphalt and a super smooth concrete basketball court and they skated well all around. I’m sold on them over the 97’s if you like to skate everything.
Can you post or link the catalogue?Expand QuoteVery little info. Just saw the Fall drop 1 catalog.
“Reformulated for slide and speed.” Radial shape in 55 and 57. Pedro Delfino model. I know he digs the current 97a.[close]
I just got a set of the 93a Classics. What is the most interesting about them is the packaging. You know how the backside of the cardboard insert has the wheel types and sizes? Well, they finally updated it. Classics. OG Classics. Conical. Conical Full. Radial. Radial Full. Lock-Ins. Lock-In Full. They finally removed Radial Slims...and that is a travesty.
Expand QuoteI just got a set of the 93a Classics. What is the most interesting about them is the packaging. You know how the backside of the cardboard insert has the wheel types and sizes? Well, they finally updated it. Classics. OG Classics. Conical. Conical Full. Radial. Radial Full. Lock-Ins. Lock-In Full. They finally removed Radial Slims...and that is a travesty.[close]
(https://pyxis.nymag.com/v1/imgs/37e/828/1e2a2943b3871f23576937330a0fbdd9f6-squidward.rsquare.w400.jpg)
Another drop, another day without Radial Slims.
Spitfire thanking Bones for showing there's a market for softer wheels.
I believe Bones made a better product especially with the X97 / X99, with shapes that are distinct from each other, but were let down by their branding / marketing. Now Sptifire is swooping in to steal their lunch, again.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI just got a set of the 93a Classics. What is the most interesting about them is the packaging. You know how the backside of the cardboard insert has the wheel types and sizes? Well, they finally updated it. Classics. OG Classics. Conical. Conical Full. Radial. Radial Full. Lock-Ins. Lock-In Full. They finally removed Radial Slims...and that is a travesty.[close]
(https://pyxis.nymag.com/v1/imgs/37e/828/1e2a2943b3871f23576937330a0fbdd9f6-squidward.rsquare.w400.jpg)
Another drop, another day without Radial Slims.
Spitfire thanking Bones for showing there's a market for softer wheels.
I believe Bones made a better product especially with the X97 / X99, with shapes that are distinct from each other, but were let down by their branding / marketing. Now Sptifire is swooping in to steal their lunch, again.[close]
This means we need Powell to produce a Radial
Slim…and then Spitfire will. Eventually.
Expand QuoteCan you post or link the catalogue?Expand QuoteVery little info. Just saw the Fall drop 1 catalog.
“Reformulated for slide and speed.” Radial shape in 55 and 57. Pedro Delfino model. I know he digs the current 97a.[close][close]
I'm not sure DLX would appreciate that.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI just got a set of the 93a Classics. What is the most interesting about them is the packaging. You know how the backside of the cardboard insert has the wheel types and sizes? Well, they finally updated it. Classics. OG Classics. Conical. Conical Full. Radial. Radial Full. Lock-Ins. Lock-In Full. They finally removed Radial Slims...and that is a travesty.[close]
(https://pyxis.nymag.com/v1/imgs/37e/828/1e2a2943b3871f23576937330a0fbdd9f6-squidward.rsquare.w400.jpg)
Another drop, another day without Radial Slims.
Spitfire thanking Bones for showing there's a market for softer wheels.
I believe Bones made a better product especially with the X97 / X99, with shapes that are distinct from each other, but were let down by their branding / marketing. Now Sptifire is swooping in to steal their lunch, again.[close]
This means we need Powell to produce a Radial
Slim…and then Spitfire will. Eventually.
Expand QuoteDo Spitfire product reps browse slap? Or is there a contact/comments page to ask them a question?
Was wondering if they're ever likely to make a wheel bearing off-set wheel that increases hangar width. The lockins don't do this as far as I'm aware.[close]
They had made a Radial offset wheel that was apart of the Grimplestix Freestyle completes a couple years back.
Bones' marketing with regards to X-Formula did really suck ass. Which is a shame, as the product is excellent. Look at Spitfire, just taking over the media space with the new 93. Yeah, they have Andrew Reynolds, but Bones aren't exactly lacking in interesting riders. Plus Spitfire outperform Bones 93-0 with regards to art direction and visuals.
Ok, here is part of what I wrote about the 93a Classics on a Facebook Group...
I went to Texas two years ago, and knew I was going to be skating some crusty ditches. My usually 99a Classics might be a bit too hard for those situations. So, I bought a set of the 97a Classics for that trip. Those wheels were great for crust, and I started using them for rougher spots in my local area, too.
Now, these 93a wheels are out. Much internet consternation has surfaced about how the 97a and 93a compare to each other. I figured I give them a shot, considering how much I liked the 97s (in some situations). People seemed to be saying the 93a was actually better overall than the 97a. Are they?
So, my set of the 93a came yesterday. I skated them today for a while, in place where they should perform *the worst*: a smooth skatepark. Here are my thoughts:
Speed: Slower than my 99a, but not nearly as much as I expected, and this kind of shocked me. I was expecting something really sluggish, and they were not, at all. They had great speed for a 93a wheel. No real complaints here.
Sound: I hate the sound of soft wheels. They created this water-logged thud noise, and these certainly had the “soft wheel sound” to them. I was not a fan of this.
Feel: I am also not a big fan of how soft wheels feel. They are spongey, bouncy, gooey, and don’t feel as responsive as harder wheels. The 93a Spitfires also had a lot of this going on, but again, not as bad as I expected. Didn’t hate it, but def liked the feel of my 99a better.
Grip/Slide: Soft wheels grip. A lot. Everyone knows that. To that end, I was surprised by 93a Spits. They certainly had some grip, but I also didn’t have ANY problem with them doing revert tricks on the ramps. I was expecting these tricks to be really compromised by softer wheels, but they simply were not. However, they also did grip a bit more when I wanted them to. In my older years, F/S rock n rolls on ramps have become a “MEH” trick for me. I now stall them out too long, and don’t snap them around fast enough anymore. The result is that I sometimes bail them because I start sliding/slipping down the ramp when I am half-way out of them. Even when I do make them, they feel “slippy” turning back in. With the 93a Spits, my f/s rocks felt totally “locked,” and were the most confident ones I’ve done in years, because the wheels gripped a bit more.
Grinds: I didn’t notice and real stick on grinds. Feeble/smith grinds on a two-sided curb felt fine. As did 50-50s and 5-0s on ledges. No issue with side of wheel grabbing against the edges.
Nose/Tailslides: Didn’t have a problem with these. If you ride Thunder trucks (e.g. shorter baseplate/more wheel catch), you may have a different outcome.
Lipslides/Boardslides/Blunt slides on 1-sided Ledge: Did not try any of these. TBA.
Powerslides on flat: Def more grippy than my 99a, but I could make them slide, but not as good.
Overall: They performed much better than I expected them to *at a smooth skate park*, which is NOT what they are really designed for. The real test is going to be when I get them in some real crust later this week…if the rain goes away. More later.
I think I'm not getting these anytime soon since it will take a while for these to land in EU shops and I'm sitting on three pairs of Dragons and a few different sets of F4s (gonna sell/give away all my 97s probably). Also while waiting for these the hype will probably settle down a bit and I know for sure if they're worth it replacing my Dragons.That's terrible. I love the 97. None of my 97s got chips. They nice and white. They do the job around here.
However, they also did grip a bit more when I wanted them to. In my older years, F/S rock n rolls on ramps have become a “MEH” trick for me. I now stall them out too long, and don’t snap them around fast enough anymore. The result is that I sometimes bail them because I start sliding/slipping down the ramp when I am half-way out of them. Even when I do make them, they feel “slippy” turning back in. With the 93a Spits, my f/s rocks felt totally “locked,” and were the most confident ones I’ve done in years, because the wheels gripped a bit more.
When I was fiending for a radial slim and really looking at all the measurements, the V5 shape was pretty close to the radial slim.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI just got a set of the 93a Classics. What is the most interesting about them is the packaging. You know how the backside of the cardboard insert has the wheel types and sizes? Well, they finally updated it. Classics. OG Classics. Conical. Conical Full. Radial. Radial Full. Lock-Ins. Lock-In Full. They finally removed Radial Slims...and that is a travesty.[close]
(https://pyxis.nymag.com/v1/imgs/37e/828/1e2a2943b3871f23576937330a0fbdd9f6-squidward.rsquare.w400.jpg)
Another drop, another day without Radial Slims.
Spitfire thanking Bones for showing there's a market for softer wheels.
I believe Bones made a better product especially with the X97 / X99, with shapes that are distinct from each other, but were let down by their branding / marketing. Now Sptifire is swooping in to steal their lunch, again.[close]
This means we need Powell to produce a Radial
Slim…and then Spitfire will. Eventually.
When I was fiending for a radial slim and really looking at all the measurements, the V5 shape was pretty close to the radial slim.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI just got a set of the 93a Classics. What is the most interesting about them is the packaging. You know how the backside of the cardboard insert has the wheel types and sizes? Well, they finally updated it. Classics. OG Classics. Conical. Conical Full. Radial. Radial Full. Lock-Ins. Lock-In Full. They finally removed Radial Slims...and that is a travesty.[close]
(https://pyxis.nymag.com/v1/imgs/37e/828/1e2a2943b3871f23576937330a0fbdd9f6-squidward.rsquare.w400.jpg)
Another drop, another day without Radial Slims.
Spitfire thanking Bones for showing there's a market for softer wheels.
I believe Bones made a better product especially with the X97 / X99, with shapes that are distinct from each other, but were let down by their branding / marketing. Now Sptifire is swooping in to steal their lunch, again.[close]
This means we need Powell to produce a Radial
Slim…and then Spitfire will. Eventually.[close]
Expand QuoteWhen I was fiending for a radial slim and really looking at all the measurements, the V5 shape was pretty close to the radial slim.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI just got a set of the 93a Classics. What is the most interesting about them is the packaging. You know how the backside of the cardboard insert has the wheel types and sizes? Well, they finally updated it. Classics. OG Classics. Conical. Conical Full. Radial. Radial Full. Lock-Ins. Lock-In Full. They finally removed Radial Slims...and that is a travesty.[close]
(https://pyxis.nymag.com/v1/imgs/37e/828/1e2a2943b3871f23576937330a0fbdd9f6-squidward.rsquare.w400.jpg)
Another drop, another day without Radial Slims.
Spitfire thanking Bones for showing there's a market for softer wheels.
I believe Bones made a better product especially with the X97 / X99, with shapes that are distinct from each other, but were let down by their branding / marketing. Now Sptifire is swooping in to steal their lunch, again.[close]
This means we need Powell to produce a Radial
Slim…and then Spitfire will. Eventually.[close][close]
Sorry my dude not even close
(https://www.urbanesteamboat.com/cdn/shop/products/large_94340_Spitfire-Radial-Slim-Wheels-54mm-D_grande_50b499e6-edb4-4e09-ba5b-e6141d5da991_1024x1024@2x.jpg?v=1621468008)
(https://anchorsskateshop.com/cdn/shop/products/x-formula-v5-sidecut.jpg?v=1674689917&width=990)
BONES V2 Locks are the closest:
https://bones.com/why/street-tech-formula/
Man on top of the other marketing follies of using Jaws to push the x formula (i am looking at their lineup and i PROBABLY would have chose Joslin personally but I think Aurelian would have worked pretty well and I see they used Decenzo as well at some point which imo was actually a good pick) the naming conventions from bones for their wheel shapes are WAY too hard / confusing for consumers to try and remember.
Had my first session on the 93a and it was an absolute blast at the curb spot. feebles and crooked gridn no problem at all, even learned crook pop over. Radial shape 56mm so nice and chonky i was just locked the fuck in on this downhill slap. was going so fast i had to chill. my setup for this wheel is 8.75 primitive egg, 149 indy standard. i think i could main this setup anywhere but i am pretty sure i would rather use my 99a setup for bluntslides. but this would definitely still work. now its more of a matter of what are you sacrificing more on each setup and its like such specific things its hard to choose.
That's terrible. I love the 97. None of my 97s got chips. They nice and white. They do the job around here.Expand QuoteI think I'm not getting these anytime soon since it will take a while for these to land in EU shops and I'm sitting on three pairs of Dragons and a few different sets of F4s (gonna sell/give away all my 97s probably). Also while waiting for these the hype will probably settle down a bit and I know for sure if they're worth it replacing my Dragons.[close]
If was over there I'd buy up everything you got over 55mm
Expand QuoteWhen I was fiending for a radial slim and really looking at all the measurements, the V5 shape was pretty close to the radial slim.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteI just got a set of the 93a Classics. What is the most interesting about them is the packaging. You know how the backside of the cardboard insert has the wheel types and sizes? Well, they finally updated it. Classics. OG Classics. Conical. Conical Full. Radial. Radial Full. Lock-Ins. Lock-In Full. They finally removed Radial Slims...and that is a travesty.[close]
(https://pyxis.nymag.com/v1/imgs/37e/828/1e2a2943b3871f23576937330a0fbdd9f6-squidward.rsquare.w400.jpg)
Another drop, another day without Radial Slims.
Spitfire thanking Bones for showing there's a market for softer wheels.
I believe Bones made a better product especially with the X97 / X99, with shapes that are distinct from each other, but were let down by their branding / marketing. Now Sptifire is swooping in to steal their lunch, again.[close]
This means we need Powell to produce a Radial
Slim…and then Spitfire will. Eventually.[close][close]
Sorry my dude not even close
(https://www.urbanesteamboat.com/cdn/shop/products/large_94340_Spitfire-Radial-Slim-Wheels-54mm-D_grande_50b499e6-edb4-4e09-ba5b-e6141d5da991_1024x1024@2x.jpg?v=1621468008)
(https://anchorsskateshop.com/cdn/shop/products/x-formula-v5-sidecut.jpg?v=1674689917&width=990)
BONES V2 Locks are the closest:
https://bones.com/why/street-tech-formula/
The width is the same, isn’t it? That’s all I cared about.
Are we getting super specific about the shape of the wheel at the edges, and the ride patch?
Wonderful, all the V6 shape take has me thinking I want to try a set in 54mm.
Thanks Slap.
Expand QuoteWonderful, all the V6 shape take has me thinking I want to try a set in 54mm.
Thanks Slap.[close]
Hate to add fuel to the fire, but I really really like my x99 56mm V6s. Felt a little sticky at first with the xformula and the wider contact patch coming from V5s, but now I don’t ever want to go back. Plus the aesthetics.
I also noticed hes on thunders and had to resist the nerd urge to say something about it in the comments.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteWonderful, all the V6 shape take has me thinking I want to try a set in 54mm.
Thanks Slap.[close]
Hate to add fuel to the fire, but I really really like my x99 56mm V6s. Felt a little sticky at first with the xformula and the wider contact patch coming from V5s, but now I don’t ever want to go back. Plus the aesthetics.[close]
X99 in V6 are amazing, I picked up the 54mm blk ones and I swear they are harder/louder than white x99s. Pretty much a radial...speaking of radials...just listen to how good they sound. (also when did he bounce from Indy?)
https://www.instagram.com/p/C5lnUkJOkc7/?hl=en&img_index=1
the Indy chub roll.
You can slap 'em down, vogue yourself into position, pose for the money shot and re-enter.This seems like a very polite way to tell some to Fk off.
The 93s have arrived in Europe. My local, Freedom in Vienna, has them in stock.I was about to ask for 93 in here (EU)
https://freedomskateshop.at/search?q=Spitfire%2093
…great shop btw.
I was about to ask for 93 in here (EU)Expand QuoteThe 93s have arrived in Europe. My local, Freedom in Vienna, has them in stock.
https://freedomskateshop.at/search?q=Spitfire%2093
…great shop btw.[close]
Gnard
PS: €75 ouchhhh
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteWonderful, all the V6 shape take has me thinking I want to try a set in 54mm.
Thanks Slap.[close]
Hate to add fuel to the fire, but I really really like my x99 56mm V6s. Felt a little sticky at first with the xformula and the wider contact patch coming from V5s, but now I don’t ever want to go back. Plus the aesthetics.[close]
X99 in V6 are amazing, I picked up the 54mm blk ones and I swear they are harder/louder than white x99s. Pretty much a radial...speaking of radials...just listen to how good they sound. (also when did he bounce from Indy?)
https://www.instagram.com/p/C5lnUkJOkc7/?hl=en&img_index=1
The new T2 supposedly is going to be a different turn (according to my shop owner who has been testing a pair) and sort of an Indy/Ace orientation. I could see Mason being one of the riders they push to switch since most of Real rides Thunders.
Expand Quote
The new T2 supposedly is going to be a different turn (according to my shop owner who has been testing a pair) and sort of an Indy/Ace orientation. I could see Mason being one of the riders they push to switch since most of Real rides Thunders.[close]
Makes a lot of sense for DLX to have a stable truck like Venture and then a looser turnier truck.
This is music to my ears. Currently rotate between Thunder and Ace and if there is some kind of sweet middle ground... well... shitabrick...
Anyone, know what the timeline looks like?
Expand Quote
The new T2 supposedly is going to be a different turn (according to my shop owner who has been testing a pair) and sort of an Indy/Ace orientation. I could see Mason being one of the riders they push to switch since most of Real rides Thunders.[close]
Makes a lot of sense for DLX to have a stable truck like Venture and then a looser turnier truck.
This is music to my ears. Currently rotate between Thunder and Ace and if there is some kind of sweet middle ground... well... shitabrick...
Anyone, know what the timeline looks like?
Of course, I should have known better.
I am a shame.
From the mason clips...doesn't have the tell tale hanger look of either an indy or thunder?
(https://i.ibb.co/Yj4FBTW/Screenshot-2024-04-11-233339.png) (https://ibb.co/Yj4FBTW)
Has anyone skated a metal surfaced ramp with the 93s?
Expand QuoteFrom the mason clips...doesn't have the tell tale hanger look of either an indy or thunder?
(https://i.ibb.co/Yj4FBTW/Screenshot-2024-04-11-233339.png) (https://ibb.co/Yj4FBTW)[close]
Looks like a...ThuIndy (ThIndy??).
Before these 93A I had some 97A 55 OG Classics
(I think, it's that or conical fulls) for rougher spots. I needed the diameter and the softer compound. I did try Dragons in 54 and the widest X99 shape. I have the 93A in 54 Radials and they're faster than the OG and the setup feels less clunky due to the smaller width and diameter. I woulda gotten 53s had my shop had em. Normally I like around a 53 so they wear into 52s so these would enable me to ride the same setup more or less at all spots.
With that said I think they're better than the X99 just because they revert with more control and just better overall. More fun to skate in transition as a result. They still can squeal and drag, but all these wheels do. I do find that when they do they don't just halt.
The Bones wheels are still good they just don't have as attractive of marketing or team riders.
Expand QuoteBefore these 93A I had some 97A 55 OG Classics
(I think, it's that or conical fulls) for rougher spots. I needed the diameter and the softer compound. I did try Dragons in 54 and the widest X99 shape. I have the 93A in 54 Radials and they're faster than the OG and the setup feels less clunky due to the smaller width and diameter. I woulda gotten 53s had my shop had em. Normally I like around a 53 so they wear into 52s so these would enable me to ride the same setup more or less at all spots.
With that said I think they're better than the X99 just because they revert with more control and just better overall. More fun to skate in transition as a result. They still can squeal and drag, but all these wheels do. I do find that when they do they don't just halt.
The Bones wheels are still good they just don't have as attractive of marketing or team riders.[close]
Can you push a tailslide with 93s? I just don't understand. I grew up with those soft wheels, I don't understand why they are coming back. I know, myself, would stick hard with 93s on a pushed in tailslide (pushed meaning leaning back and using object for movement). Maybe I'm not getting it. . . How do you speed check for red light if you need to get a couple seconds before you cross? 99s can do a lot of versatility in a street environment. Dressen did kill with softer wheels though, I am over thinking this maybe.
From the mason clips...doesn't have the tell tale hanger look of either an indy or thunder?
(https://i.ibb.co/Yj4FBTW/Screenshot-2024-04-11-233339.png) (https://ibb.co/Yj4FBTW)
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteBefore these 93A I had some 97A 55 OG Classics
(I think, it's that or conical fulls) for rougher spots. I needed the diameter and the softer compound. I did try Dragons in 54 and the widest X99 shape. I have the 93A in 54 Radials and they're faster than the OG and the setup feels less clunky due to the smaller width and diameter. I woulda gotten 53s had my shop had em. Normally I like around a 53 so they wear into 52s so these would enable me to ride the same setup more or less at all spots.
With that said I think they're better than the X99 just because they revert with more control and just better overall. More fun to skate in transition as a result. They still can squeal and drag, but all these wheels do. I do find that when they do they don't just halt.
The Bones wheels are still good they just don't have as attractive of marketing or team riders.[close]
Can you push a tailslide with 93s? I just don't understand. I grew up with those soft wheels, I don't understand why they are coming back. I know, myself, would stick hard with 93s on a pushed in tailslide (pushed meaning leaning back and using object for movement). Maybe I'm not getting it. . . How do you speed check for red light if you need to get a couple seconds before you cross? 99s can do a lot of versatility in a street environment. Dressen did kill with softer wheels though, I am over thinking this maybe.[close]
That's the whole point of these new wheels (Soft sliders, Dragons, X formula etc) They've finally figured out how to make soft wheels slide better.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteFrom the mason clips...doesn't have the tell tale hanger look of either an indy or thunder?
(https://i.ibb.co/Yj4FBTW/Screenshot-2024-04-11-233339.png) (https://ibb.co/Yj4FBTW)[close]
Looks like a...ThuIndy (ThIndy??).[close]
Thinder.
From the mason clips...doesn't have the tell tale hanger look of either an indy or thunder?
(https://i.ibb.co/Yj4FBTW/Screenshot-2024-04-11-233339.png) (https://ibb.co/Yj4FBTW)
I tried the X99 and the dull gummy sound of dropping my board with 93's is a bit jarring to hear, but the 93's seem to slide better on skatepark coping than my x99. I had a session where I was grinding some metal coping in a bowl and the X99 caught a particularly dry section and pitched me. Our parks are built by the same company I believe and they all use this square-ish coping that seems to be particularly sticky if not waxed after it's broken in. I was definitely getting some stick even on back noses with the X99, but so far haven't had any big sticks with the 93s.
With that said I just don't ride rough enough terrain on the daily to really needed 93s. I used to ride bigger conical fulls at crustier spots and while smaller 93s feel equivalently fast, I got really used to how the bigger wheels popped and locked in and it hasn't been a super smooth transition.
So after regular sessions on the 93s I've moved on and I'm back on 103a (V3 STFs...until radial slims make a comeback).
Not because the wheels are bad - they're great, JUST like dragons are - but after the x99s, *I* just don't need that much rebound for where I skate (YMMV of course); I've got them in my skate bag with bearings ready to go for that random spot that sucks.
Really hope they lessen the rebound for the 97s (bones didn't); would gladly take half the rebound removed from the 93s to have the 97z feel a bit more normal.
Got myself a set of those spitfire 93a in the conical shape.I thought they only had classics and radials.
First impressions:
When comparing spitfires 93 and dragons, the only thing they have in common, is the number printed on the wheels.
The spitfires feel way harder and rattely, almost like a normal wheel. I cannot believe that these wheels are supposed to be 93a.
Good slide and overall feel.
I'd say crusty spots -> dragons/x formula, old parks/medium crust->spitfire 93a
I thought they only had classics and radials.Expand QuoteGot myself a set of those spitfire 93a in theconicalradial shape.
First impressions:
When comparing spitfires 93 and dragons, the only thing they have in common, is the number printed on the wheels.
The spitfires feel way harder and rattely, almost like a normal wheel. I cannot believe that these wheels are supposed to be 93a.
Good slide and overall feel.
I'd say crusty spots -> dragons/x formula, old parks/medium crust->spitfire 93a[close]
imo they are only slightly less cruisery than dragons. they still feel like they are absorbing a decent amount of the vibration, but they seem to carry the speed way way better which is what i care more about / seems to be spitfires design philosphy
i have 2 sets of 95a wheels from OJ and the spitfires still feel more cushiony than those do by a long shot. the slide is laughably bad on the OJs in comparison, but those formulas are a lot older and those wheels are probably 1/4 the price. the skinnier tread does a lot better but still have a hard time wanting to ride anything besides spitfires.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCydx2UlC40 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCydx2UlC40)
Wish there were a few more slide tricks in this little promo. But Reynolds' ender makes the main point...
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteWonderful, all the V6 shape take has me thinking I want to try a set in 54mm.
Thanks Slap.[close]
Hate to add fuel to the fire, but I really really like my x99 56mm V6s. Felt a little sticky at first with the xformula and the wider contact patch coming from V5s, but now I don’t ever want to go back. Plus the aesthetics.[close]
X99 in V6 are amazing, I picked up the 54mm blk ones and I swear they are harder/louder than white x99s. Pretty much a radial...speaking of radials...just listen to how good they sound. (also when did he bounce from Indy?)
https://www.instagram.com/p/C5lnUkJOkc7/?hl=en&img_index=1[close]
Not sure if Mason bounced, but DLX is pushing a lot of riders that are not on a DLX truck to ride one. The new T2 supposedly is going to be a different turn (according to my shop owner who has been testing a pair) and sort of an Indy/Ace orientation. I could see Mason being one of the riders they push to switch since most of Real rides Thunders.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteWonderful, all the V6 shape take has me thinking I want to try a set in 54mm.
Thanks Slap.[close]
Hate to add fuel to the fire, but I really really like my x99 56mm V6s. Felt a little sticky at first with the xformula and the wider contact patch coming from V5s, but now I don’t ever want to go back. Plus the aesthetics.[close]
X99 in V6 are amazing, I picked up the 54mm blk ones and I swear they are harder/louder than white x99s. Pretty much a radial...speaking of radials...just listen to how good they sound. (also when did he bounce from Indy?)
https://www.instagram.com/p/C5lnUkJOkc7/?hl=en&img_index=1[close]
Not sure if Mason bounced, but DLX is pushing a lot of riders that are not on a DLX truck to ride one. The new T2 supposedly is going to be a different turn (according to my shop owner who has been testing a pair) and sort of an Indy/Ace orientation. I could see Mason being one of the riders they push to switch since most of Real rides Thunders.[close]
What's this about a T2? Are they going to replace the original Thunder design?
I just settled on hollow thunders and I fucking love them. Why would they fuck with it.
Why would they fuck with it.
Expand QuoteWhy would they fuck with it.[close]
Why? Simple. Because Thunders suck and they are •finally• trying to do something about it. :)
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteWhy would they fuck with it.[close]
Why? Simple. Because Thunders suck and they are •finally• trying to do something about it. :)[close]
brutal but true. how many iterations has thunder even gone through? venture's had a few tweaks, obviously indy too, someone drop some knowledge for me
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteWhy would they fuck with it.[close]
Why? Simple. Because Thunders suck and they are •finally• trying to do something about it. :)[close]
brutal but true. how many iterations has thunder even gone through? venture's had a few tweaks, obviously indy too, someone drop some knowledge for me[close]
"A few tweaks"
(https://i.ibb.co/0nbTpCB/IMG-6197.jpg) (https://ibb.co/0nbTpCB)
The info you seek is here:
THE THUNDER THREAD
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=118215.msg4122001;topicseen#msg4122001
Waiting for that Conical Full 93
I had a crazy realization yesterday. I set up a Christmas complete a few months ago cuz I was switching from thunders to Indy and my whole board was beat (bearings old, wheels coned, hardware stripping). I started taking apart the board last nite to harvest the trucks for a homie who is getting into skating, and I realized that the conical fulls, which I rode for a long time and loved, were 97s and not 99s like I thought. That explained why my board felt so much rattley when I set up some 99a conical fulls.
Needless to say, looking forward to trying some 93 conical (or even radial) fulls
Almost pulled the trigger on these since my shop has 93 radials for 59e.
I want to try the 93a, but I skate exclusively on smooth tennis courts, so don’t think they’ll benefit me 🥲
Expand QuoteAlmost pulled the trigger on these since my shop has 93 radials for 59e.[close]
E as in euros? Which shop is it?
I have conical full samples so they will be coming at some point no doubt.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteAlmost pulled the trigger on these since my shop has 93 radials for 59e.[close]
E as in euros? Which shop is it?[close]
Yes. MFT Helsinki has them.
https://myfavoritethings.fi/fi/collections/wheels/products/spitfire-f4-93du-radials-58-mm
Yeah, going to stick with my 99s. Honestly my current setup is perfect. I’ve been using it for six months and never have to think about it. I just need to stay offline. Seeing new gear makes me want to try it. Cause skateboarding is so cheap compared to other hobbies/lifestyles. But I need to think of the mental cost. Can’t afford another bout of madness.Expand QuoteI want to try the 93a, but I skate exclusively on smooth tennis courts, so don’t think they’ll benefit me 🥲[close]
They won't in that situation, better stick with harder wheels.
Yeah, going to stick with my 99s. Honestly my current setup is perfect. I’ve been using it for six months and never have to think about it. I just need to stay offline. Seeing new gear makes me want to try it. Cause skateboarding is so cheap compared to other hobbies/lifestyles. But I need to think of the mental cost. Can’t afford another bout of madness.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI want to try the 93a, but I skate exclusively on smooth tennis courts, so don’t think they’ll benefit me 🥲[close]
They won't in that situation, better stick with harder wheels.[close]
Expand QuoteYeah, going to stick with my 99s. Honestly my current setup is perfect. I’ve been using it for six months and never have to think about it. I just need to stay offline. Seeing new gear makes me want to try it. Cause skateboarding is so cheap compared to other hobbies/lifestyles. But I need to think of the mental cost. Can’t afford another bout of madness.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI want to try the 93a, but I skate exclusively on smooth tennis courts, so don’t think they’ll benefit me 🥲[close]
They won't in that situation, better stick with harder wheels.[close][close]
How can you have madness when you post that you rarely pop your board?
been on the 58mm 93 radials. for some reason theyve been sliding better than any of the last few 99s ive used. mind you they were usually 56mm+ and full shape. the bounce was noticeable but got used to it within minutes
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteYeah, going to stick with my 99s. Honestly my current setup is perfect. I’ve been using it for six months and never have to think about it. I just need to stay offline. Seeing new gear makes me want to try it. Cause skateboarding is so cheap compared to other hobbies/lifestyles. But I need to think of the mental cost. Can’t afford another bout of madness.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI want to try the 93a, but I skate exclusively on smooth tennis courts, so don’t think they’ll benefit me 🥲[close]
They won't in that situation, better stick with harder wheels.[close][close]
How can you have madness when you post that you rarely pop your board?[close]
You don’t need to pop your board to be good at skateboarding and tinker with your setup. There are people who primarily just do slappies and fuckin rip.
Speaking of the 93 slide, how does it compare to that of the X99, anyone?
Expand QuoteSpeaking of the 93 slide, how does it compare to that of the X99, anyone?[close]
After two sessions on 93 52mm Classics, the slide is better than previously tried Nomads, X97 and F4 97, in my opinion.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteYeah, going to stick with my 99s. Honestly my current setup is perfect. I’ve been using it for six months and never have to think about it. I just need to stay offline. Seeing new gear makes me want to try it. Cause skateboarding is so cheap compared to other hobbies/lifestyles. But I need to think of the mental cost. Can’t afford another bout of madness.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI want to try the 93a, but I skate exclusively on smooth tennis courts, so don’t think they’ll benefit me 🥲[close]
They won't in that situation, better stick with harder wheels.[close][close]
How can you have madness when you post that you rarely pop your board?[close]
You don’t need to pop your board to be good at skateboarding and tinker with your setup. There are people who primarily just do slappies and fuckin rip.[close]
^ Facts. Hard stop.
Exactly. I don’t have a huge bag of tricks (basically only do a few no comply variations), but my setup still matters.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteYeah, going to stick with my 99s. Honestly my current setup is perfect. I’ve been using it for six months and never have to think about it. I just need to stay offline. Seeing new gear makes me want to try it. Cause skateboarding is so cheap compared to other hobbies/lifestyles. But I need to think of the mental cost. Can’t afford another bout of madness.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI want to try the 93a, but I skate exclusively on smooth tennis courts, so don’t think they’ll benefit me 🥲[close]
They won't in that situation, better stick with harder wheels.[close][close]
How can you have madness when you post that you rarely pop your board?[close]
You don’t need to pop your board to be good at skateboarding and tinker with your setup. There are people who primarily just do slappies and fuckin rip.
See the post above this.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteYeah, going to stick with my 99s. Honestly my current setup is perfect. I’ve been using it for six months and never have to think about it. I just need to stay offline. Seeing new gear makes me want to try it. Cause skateboarding is so cheap compared to other hobbies/lifestyles. But I need to think of the mental cost. Can’t afford another bout of madness.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI want to try the 93a, but I skate exclusively on smooth tennis courts, so don’t think they’ll benefit me 🥲[close]
They won't in that situation, better stick with harder wheels.[close][close]
How can you have madness when you post that you rarely pop your board?[close]
You don’t need to pop your board to be good at skateboarding and tinker with your setup. There are people who primarily just do slappies and fuckin rip.[close]
^ Facts. Hard stop.[close]
True, but dude just posted he mostly rolls and does no complies. Those aren't slappies. I could understand madness for slappies. I use my larger transition setup for curb days and dudes have pretty unique setups and I get why. It sounded like the poster is mostly into cruising and the variables there aren't inherently complex and you could just setup a few different cruisers like a polarizer, old school setup, etc and things like pop timing, grind, balance point won't matter.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteSpeaking of the 93 slide, how does it compare to that of the X99, anyone?[close]
After two sessions on 93 52mm Classics, the slide is better than previously tried Nomads, X97 and F4 97, in my opinion.[close]
What I wanna know is how the Sapphires and these sound they way they do?
Or perhaps every YouTubers gotta bank of official spit sound effects and doing drum replacement therapy on us.
I fuckin checked video against video on the same channel too. The sound between dragons and spits appears to be almost night and day.
Is this facts or miss observation?
I even heard the Aaron Kyro say that about the sapphires on his skitching slider wheel test.
Those are the only braile videos that matter. I need to see the inside of wheels
I wonder how much I could get for these? Do people lust over them that much?
They're not for sale.
Exactly. I don’t have a huge bag of tricks (basically only do a few no comply variations), but my setup still matters.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteYeah, going to stick with my 99s. Honestly my current setup is perfect. I’ve been using it for six months and never have to think about it. I just need to stay offline. Seeing new gear makes me want to try it. Cause skateboarding is so cheap compared to other hobbies/lifestyles. But I need to think of the mental cost. Can’t afford another bout of madness.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI want to try the 93a, but I skate exclusively on smooth tennis courts, so don’t think they’ll benefit me 🥲[close]
They won't in that situation, better stick with harder wheels.[close][close]
How can you have madness when you post that you rarely pop your board?[close]
You don’t need to pop your board to be good at skateboarding and tinker with your setup. There are people who primarily just do slappies and fuckin rip.[close]
For example, I’m 240lbs and wear a size 14. I started out on an 8.5 deck with a 14 inch wheelbase that tapered to 8.25 at the tail (Kenny Anderson Skidul shape), and I had Indy’s with stock bushings. Needless to say, that didn’t work for someone my size 😅
So even when cruising, setup actually matters, and any skater should know that. But this is the internet, so you know folks gotta be silly and take shots at others for no reason.
Expand QuoteExactly. I don’t have a huge bag of tricks (basically only do a few no comply variations), but my setup still matters.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteYeah, going to stick with my 99s. Honestly my current setup is perfect. I’ve been using it for six months and never have to think about it. I just need to stay offline. Seeing new gear makes me want to try it. Cause skateboarding is so cheap compared to other hobbies/lifestyles. But I need to think of the mental cost. Can’t afford another bout of madness.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI want to try the 93a, but I skate exclusively on smooth tennis courts, so don’t think they’ll benefit me 🥲[close]
They won't in that situation, better stick with harder wheels.[close][close]
How can you have madness when you post that you rarely pop your board?[close]
You don’t need to pop your board to be good at skateboarding and tinker with your setup. There are people who primarily just do slappies and fuckin rip.[close]
For example, I’m 240lbs and wear a size 14. I started out on an 8.5 deck with a 14 inch wheelbase that tapered to 8.25 at the tail (Kenny Anderson Skidul shape), and I had Indy’s with stock bushings. Needless to say, that didn’t work for someone my size 😅
So even when cruising, setup actually matters, and any skater should know that. But this is the internet, so you know folks gotta be silly and take shots at others for no reason.[close]
Sure- that's like someone your size buying a bike. But at the end of the day as long as the obvious basics are covered like it fits and safely allows them to do the activity then the specifics are a matter of taste not necessity.
Exactly. And he must not do a lot of no complys cause gear can affect them too. Doing a shuv with classics vs. lock-in fulls requires a different scoop. For me, smaller riding surface equals an easier scoop. And Spitfires react differently than OJs, even at 99a. So it’s easy to understand why someone would start to experiment with their setup, regardless of what they’re doing.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExactly. I don’t have a huge bag of tricks (basically only do a few no comply variations), but my setup still matters.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteYeah, going to stick with my 99s. Honestly my current setup is perfect. I’ve been using it for six months and never have to think about it. I just need to stay offline. Seeing new gear makes me want to try it. Cause skateboarding is so cheap compared to other hobbies/lifestyles. But I need to think of the mental cost. Can’t afford another bout of madness.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI want to try the 93a, but I skate exclusively on smooth tennis courts, so don’t think they’ll benefit me 🥲[close]
They won't in that situation, better stick with harder wheels.[close][close]
How can you have madness when you post that you rarely pop your board?[close]
You don’t need to pop your board to be good at skateboarding and tinker with your setup. There are people who primarily just do slappies and fuckin rip.[close]
For example, I’m 240lbs and wear a size 14. I started out on an 8.5 deck with a 14 inch wheelbase that tapered to 8.25 at the tail (Kenny Anderson Skidul shape), and I had Indy’s with stock bushings. Needless to say, that didn’t work for someone my size 😅
So even when cruising, setup actually matters, and any skater should know that. But this is the internet, so you know folks gotta be silly and take shots at others for no reason.[close]
Sure- that's like someone your size buying a bike. But at the end of the day as long as the obvious basics are covered like it fits and safely allows them to do the activity then the specifics are a matter of taste not necessity.[close]
I don’t understand why you can’t comprehend the fact that gear matters to people regardless of the complexity of their trick selection. Trucks turn differently, wheel size/shape/duro effect how it rides, board dimensions change how it feels etc. You sound like an elitist arguing that he should just ride anything that “fits” and not focus on the nuances of his setup because he doesn’t do certain tricks. Fools were tinkering with their shit before kickflips were commonplace.
I was going through a box of used gear and look at these beauties. 52 99a Radial Slims
Still a hair over 51 mm. I wonder how much I could get for these? Do people lust over them that much?
They're not for sale.
I've been on nothing but F4's for maybe 8 years now. The first set was 101a. Nothing but 99a since. I had 3 or 4 sets of Slims in a row and loved them. But I had a battle with this trick where I was landing alongside a parallel crack and kept getting stuck in it. My friend rides an identical setup to me. Except he had classics on. I did a little test and I was able to roll over these cracks where the slims would catch.
But they have their selling points. Flip tricks feel great. And they just look good.
(https://i.imgur.com/fI8vfpPl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/sNiTiRzl.jpg)
Exactly. And he must not do a lot of no complys cause gear can affect them too. Doing a shuv with classics vs. lock-in fulls requires a different scoop. For me, smaller riding surface equals an easier scoop. And Spitfires react differently than OJs, even at 99a. So it’s easy to understand why someone would start to experiment with their setup, regardless of what they’re doing.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExactly. I don’t have a huge bag of tricks (basically only do a few no comply variations), but my setup still matters.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteYeah, going to stick with my 99s. Honestly my current setup is perfect. I’ve been using it for six months and never have to think about it. I just need to stay offline. Seeing new gear makes me want to try it. Cause skateboarding is so cheap compared to other hobbies/lifestyles. But I need to think of the mental cost. Can’t afford another bout of madness.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI want to try the 93a, but I skate exclusively on smooth tennis courts, so don’t think they’ll benefit me 🥲[close]
They won't in that situation, better stick with harder wheels.[close][close]
How can you have madness when you post that you rarely pop your board?[close]
You don’t need to pop your board to be good at skateboarding and tinker with your setup. There are people who primarily just do slappies and fuckin rip.[close]
For example, I’m 240lbs and wear a size 14. I started out on an 8.5 deck with a 14 inch wheelbase that tapered to 8.25 at the tail (Kenny Anderson Skidul shape), and I had Indy’s with stock bushings. Needless to say, that didn’t work for someone my size 😅
So even when cruising, setup actually matters, and any skater should know that. But this is the internet, so you know folks gotta be silly and take shots at others for no reason.[close]
Sure- that's like someone your size buying a bike. But at the end of the day as long as the obvious basics are covered like it fits and safely allows them to do the activity then the specifics are a matter of taste not necessity.[close]
I don’t understand why you can’t comprehend the fact that gear matters to people regardless of the complexity of their trick selection. Trucks turn differently, wheel size/shape/duro effect how it rides, board dimensions change how it feels etc. You sound like an elitist arguing that he should just ride anything that “fits” and not focus on the nuances of his setup because he doesn’t do certain tricks. Fools were tinkering with their shit before kickflips were commonplace.[close]
Yeah you can technically make anything work, but it’s all about finding the right gear for your needs/style.
Madness can wrap anyone in its cold embrace 😈
I was going through a box of used gear and look at these beauties. 52 99a Radial Slims
Still a hair over 51 mm. I wonder how much I could get for these? Do people lust over them that much?
They're not for sale.
I've been on nothing but F4's for maybe 8 years now. The first set was 101a. Nothing but 99a since. I had 3 or 4 sets of Slims in a row and loved them. But I had a battle with this trick where I was landing alongside a parallel crack and kept getting stuck in it. My friend rides an identical setup to me. Except he had classics on. I did a little test and I was able to roll over these cracks where the slims would catch.
But they have their selling points. Flip tricks feel great. And they just look good.
(https://i.imgur.com/fI8vfpPl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/sNiTiRzl.jpg)
so i have had the easy slider 56mm 93a Radial for a couple weeks - skated em 4-5 times at least
really happy with the slide and cruise and speed still. flip trick game seems intact even on big board, trucks + wheels (8.75 egg, 149 indy)
just did a side by side with the 99a 52mm classic full
it definitely felt less icy on the 93a but i could still do all my tricks on the curb
feels like i never push at all on the 93a. it got scary fast very quickly. but the wheel is also a lot larger in this case, a 52 vs a 56mm.
I am probably madnessing towards a 54mm radial 99a for my next setup. or the reforumlated 97a, cause i have awhile on these 2 new wheels now to last me :) I think I am kinda over the smaller and classic wheels. I feel like they are not really providing me much value vs. what the bigger square ones are for the type of skating I do. I am starting to get a little better at the noseslide > crook combos but i feel like i dont need the classic wheel for it, i will do fine using a square one and i will stay locked in the grind a lot better too. i think same thing for feebles, dont need to the classic to help get into the grind anymore, will end up staying locked in the grind better with other wheels im thinking.
Expand QuoteExactly. And he must not do a lot of no complys cause gear can affect them too. Doing a shuv with classics vs. lock-in fulls requires a different scoop. For me, smaller riding surface equals an easier scoop. And Spitfires react differently than OJs, even at 99a. So it’s easy to understand why someone would start to experiment with their setup, regardless of what they’re doing.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExactly. I don’t have a huge bag of tricks (basically only do a few no comply variations), but my setup still matters.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteYeah, going to stick with my 99s. Honestly my current setup is perfect. I’ve been using it for six months and never have to think about it. I just need to stay offline. Seeing new gear makes me want to try it. Cause skateboarding is so cheap compared to other hobbies/lifestyles. But I need to think of the mental cost. Can’t afford another bout of madness.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteI want to try the 93a, but I skate exclusively on smooth tennis courts, so don’t think they’ll benefit me 🥲[close]
They won't in that situation, better stick with harder wheels.[close][close]
How can you have madness when you post that you rarely pop your board?[close]
You don’t need to pop your board to be good at skateboarding and tinker with your setup. There are people who primarily just do slappies and fuckin rip.[close]
For example, I’m 240lbs and wear a size 14. I started out on an 8.5 deck with a 14 inch wheelbase that tapered to 8.25 at the tail (Kenny Anderson Skidul shape), and I had Indy’s with stock bushings. Needless to say, that didn’t work for someone my size 😅
So even when cruising, setup actually matters, and any skater should know that. But this is the internet, so you know folks gotta be silly and take shots at others for no reason.[close]
Sure- that's like someone your size buying a bike. But at the end of the day as long as the obvious basics are covered like it fits and safely allows them to do the activity then the specifics are a matter of taste not necessity.[close]
I don’t understand why you can’t comprehend the fact that gear matters to people regardless of the complexity of their trick selection. Trucks turn differently, wheel size/shape/duro effect how it rides, board dimensions change how it feels etc. You sound like an elitist arguing that he should just ride anything that “fits” and not focus on the nuances of his setup because he doesn’t do certain tricks. Fools were tinkering with their shit before kickflips were commonplace.[close]
Yeah you can technically make anything work, but it’s all about finding the right gear for your needs/style.
Madness can wrap anyone in its cold embrace 😈[close]
Dawg I've been doing no complies since 1996 on all sorts of setups and trucks and once you learn the motion it doesn't. fucking. matter. Dudes were doing them on decks with no noses. Its a pretty easy motion to learn and if you're doing them backside then overall board length can influence things a bit, but its rarely a super technical flip like a nollie fs flip or Kickflip back smith is for example.
What you're getting at are small differences in preference for the basic. That is far different than people micro optimizing pop timing.
Anyways, no pointing beating this tangent into the ground further.
Back to the wheels I think I'm going to fully reserve these for rough cement and asphalt. They're nicer for me in a straight line at the park than the Bones variants and for rounder coping at one of our parks, but I think the 99 are still the best overall wheel for smoother terrain. Spitfire was smart to probably wait a bit and see what the main pieces of feedback were about Dragons/Bones and use their massive team, including gear nuts such as Reynolds, to optimize their iteration.
I tried to go back to 99a after being on the 93a radials for a couple of weeks and I’m immediately going back to the 93’s. The 99a felt like rocks. I can live with the loss of speed at the skatepark (which isn’t even that noticeable). The 93a are better in every regard for me.
so i have had the easy slider 56mm 93a Radial for a couple weeks - skated em 4-5 times at least
really happy with the slide and cruise and speed still. flip trick game seems intact even on big board, trucks + wheels (8.75 egg, 149 indy)
just did a side by side with the 99a 52mm classic full
it definitely felt less icy on the 93a but i could still do all my tricks on the curb
feels like i never push at all on the 93a. it got scary fast very quickly. but the wheel is also a lot larger in this case, a 52 vs a 56mm.
I am probably madnessing towards a 54mm radial 99a for my next setup. or the reforumlated 97a, cause i have awhile on these 2 new wheels now to last me :) I think I am kinda over the smaller and classic wheels. I feel like they are not really providing me much value vs. what the bigger square ones are for the type of skating I do. I am starting to get a little better at the noseslide > crook combos but i feel like i dont need the classic wheel for it, i will do fine using a square one and i will stay locked in the grind a lot better too. i think same thing for feebles, dont need to the classic to help get into the grind anymore, will end up staying locked in the grind better with other wheels im thinking.
Expand Quoteso i have had the easy slider 56mm 93a Radial for a couple weeks - skated em 4-5 times at least
really happy with the slide and cruise and speed still. flip trick game seems intact even on big board, trucks + wheels (8.75 egg, 149 indy)
just did a side by side with the 99a 52mm classic full
it definitely felt less icy on the 93a but i could still do all my tricks on the curb
feels like i never push at all on the 93a. it got scary fast very quickly. but the wheel is also a lot larger in this case, a 52 vs a 56mm.
I am probably madnessing towards a 54mm radial 99a for my next setup. or the reforumlated 97a, cause i have awhile on these 2 new wheels now to last me :) I think I am kinda over the smaller and classic wheels. I feel like they are not really providing me much value vs. what the bigger square ones are for the type of skating I do. I am starting to get a little better at the noseslide > crook combos but i feel like i dont need the classic wheel for it, i will do fine using a square one and i will stay locked in the grind a lot better too. i think same thing for feebles, dont need to the classic to help get into the grind anymore, will end up staying locked in the grind better with other wheels im thinking.[close]
Is that what you've been riding lately on ig? Looks like it.
Some thoughts after one month on the 93’s: I think I’m starting to prefer the radials to the classic shape. They seem to keep speed better in most conditions and on a purely aesthetic note I just like the way they look a little better. Still haven’t decided if they’re gonna be my full time wheel but I’m noticeably less sore, especially in my feet after a session when I’m skating the 93’s and haven’t really had the urge to change back aside from a few sessions at a local skatepark early on in my time with them. I really wish they made the radial in a 52mm since the reason I was riding 54mm in 99a was to have more speed and not get tripped up on cracks/pebbles as much on the street spots I usually skate. With these I’d feel more comfortable on a smaller wheel knowing they have the ability to cruise over crust and cracks and I’d suffer less wheelbite on flip tricks with my thunder hollow lights.
Overall I’m really happy with them and aside from a flatspot on the classics (which worked itself out in one session) that I got from sliding out on a varial heel attempt I’ve had no issues with their performance. They do feel a slight bit sticky compared to a 99 when doing sharp turns I noticed, but it’s minimal and something I’m willing to adapt to unless it becomes more prevalent as the wheel ages.
Expand QuoteSome thoughts after one month on the 93’s: I think I’m starting to prefer the radials to the classic shape. They seem to keep speed better in most conditions and on a purely aesthetic note I just like the way they look a little better. Still haven’t decided if they’re gonna be my full time wheel but I’m noticeably less sore, especially in my feet after a session when I’m skating the 93’s and haven’t really had the urge to change back aside from a few sessions at a local skatepark early on in my time with them. I really wish they made the radial in a 52mm since the reason I was riding 54mm in 99a was to have more speed and not get tripped up on cracks/pebbles as much on the street spots I usually skate. With these I’d feel more comfortable on a smaller wheel knowing they have the ability to cruise over crust and cracks and I’d suffer less wheelbite on flip tricks with my thunder hollow lights.
Overall I’m really happy with them and aside from a flatspot on the classics (which worked itself out in one session) that I got from sliding out on a varial heel attempt I’ve had no issues with their performance. They do feel a slight bit sticky compared to a 99 when doing sharp turns I noticed, but it’s minimal and something I’m willing to adapt to unless it becomes more prevalent as the wheel ages.[close]
Re 93 duro wheels
Do they seem to wear down about the same, faster or slower?
I know getting 54 mm Classics and wearing them down to 52 mm was always a good size and shape, like fat little Classic Full wheels, but the Radials are pretty solid for everything.
Expand QuoteExpand Quoteso i have had the easy slider 56mm 93a Radial for a couple weeks - skated em 4-5 times at least
really happy with the slide and cruise and speed still. flip trick game seems intact even on big board, trucks + wheels (8.75 egg, 149 indy)
just did a side by side with the 99a 52mm classic full
it definitely felt less icy on the 93a but i could still do all my tricks on the curb
feels like i never push at all on the 93a. it got scary fast very quickly. but the wheel is also a lot larger in this case, a 52 vs a 56mm.
I am probably madnessing towards a 54mm radial 99a for my next setup. or the reforumlated 97a, cause i have awhile on these 2 new wheels now to last me :) I think I am kinda over the smaller and classic wheels. I feel like they are not really providing me much value vs. what the bigger square ones are for the type of skating I do. I am starting to get a little better at the noseslide > crook combos but i feel like i dont need the classic wheel for it, i will do fine using a square one and i will stay locked in the grind a lot better too. i think same thing for feebles, dont need to the classic to help get into the grind anymore, will end up staying locked in the grind better with other wheels im thinking.[close]
Is that what you've been riding lately on ig? Looks like it.[close]
riding 2 setups lol between the 99a and the 93a
https://www.instagram.com/p/C6RhAqSJuLX/
the line i am riding the 93a 56mm radial and the single tricks is all on my 52mm classic full 99a
i am not sure if i can fully give up the 99a yet. but i am thinking i will go up to 54mm radial. the sound is so awesome on the harder wheel but i dont feel like its really providing me any advantage... It definitely is more icy but i dont think its a huge difference. i did those same tricks on the radial setup as well and it felt like i wasnt grinding as long, but i definitely could still do them all.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quoteso i have had the easy slider 56mm 93a Radial for a couple weeks - skated em 4-5 times at least
really happy with the slide and cruise and speed still. flip trick game seems intact even on big board, trucks + wheels (8.75 egg, 149 indy)
just did a side by side with the 99a 52mm classic full
it definitely felt less icy on the 93a but i could still do all my tricks on the curb
feels like i never push at all on the 93a. it got scary fast very quickly. but the wheel is also a lot larger in this case, a 52 vs a 56mm.
I am probably madnessing towards a 54mm radial 99a for my next setup. or the reforumlated 97a, cause i have awhile on these 2 new wheels now to last me :) I think I am kinda over the smaller and classic wheels. I feel like they are not really providing me much value vs. what the bigger square ones are for the type of skating I do. I am starting to get a little better at the noseslide > crook combos but i feel like i dont need the classic wheel for it, i will do fine using a square one and i will stay locked in the grind a lot better too. i think same thing for feebles, dont need to the classic to help get into the grind anymore, will end up staying locked in the grind better with other wheels im thinking.[close]
Is that what you've been riding lately on ig? Looks like it.[close]
riding 2 setups lol between the 99a and the 93a
https://www.instagram.com/p/C6RhAqSJuLX/
the line i am riding the 93a 56mm radial and the single tricks is all on my 52mm classic full 99a
i am not sure if i can fully give up the 99a yet. but i am thinking i will go up to 54mm radial. the sound is so awesome on the harder wheel but i dont feel like its really providing me any advantage... It definitely is more icy but i dont think its a huge difference. i did those same tricks on the radial setup as well and it felt like i wasnt grinding as long, but i definitely could still do them all.[close]
Yeah that the video. They look fast. I can see it. I think they're good for you.
All these comments are encouraging. I hope soft wheels stick around
Has anyone gotten a really bad bounce yet leading to injury from basics?. Like the dragons
Damn Rawr-Bert! You’re good!Expand QuoteExpand Quoteso i have had the easy slider 56mm 93a Radial for a couple weeks - skated em 4-5 times at least
really happy with the slide and cruise and speed still. flip trick game seems intact even on big board, trucks + wheels (8.75 egg, 149 indy)
just did a side by side with the 99a 52mm classic full
it definitely felt less icy on the 93a but i could still do all my tricks on the curb
feels like i never push at all on the 93a. it got scary fast very quickly. but the wheel is also a lot larger in this case, a 52 vs a 56mm.
I am probably madnessing towards a 54mm radial 99a for my next setup. or the reforumlated 97a, cause i have awhile on these 2 new wheels now to last me :) I think I am kinda over the smaller and classic wheels. I feel like they are not really providing me much value vs. what the bigger square ones are for the type of skating I do. I am starting to get a little better at the noseslide > crook combos but i feel like i dont need the classic wheel for it, i will do fine using a square one and i will stay locked in the grind a lot better too. i think same thing for feebles, dont need to the classic to help get into the grind anymore, will end up staying locked in the grind better with other wheels im thinking.[close]
Is that what you've been riding lately on ig? Looks like it.[close]
riding 2 setups lol between the 99a and the 93a
https://www.instagram.com/p/C6RhAqSJuLX/
the line i am riding the 93a 56mm radial and the single tricks is all on my 52mm classic full 99a
i am not sure if i can fully give up the 99a yet. but i am thinking i will go up to 54mm radial. the sound is so awesome on the harder wheel but i dont feel like its really providing me any advantage... It definitely is more icy but i dont think its a huge difference. i did those same tricks on the radial setup as well and it felt like i wasnt grinding as long, but i definitely could still do them all.
Im on 93 classics, was worried about bluntslides but they work. Loved the dragons except for bluntslides (super sticky), hardly skate rails so did not care about the sound they did and the stickyness on rails.
Feel like dragons is faster then 93, atleast for me. But i probably skate slow either way ::)
And dragons rolled over pebbels where the 93 sticks.
Dont even know what to use anymore, probably cant go back to hard wheels again, so its either 93 och x97
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6WyurCtPti/?igsh=cHVrYTdjMmsyMXM1
Im on 93 classics, was worried about bluntslides but they work. Loved the dragons except for bluntslides (super sticky), hardly skate rails so did not care about the sound they did and the stickyness on rails.
Feel like dragons is faster then 93, atleast for me. But i probably skate slow either way ::)
And dragons rolled over pebbels where the 93 sticks.
Dont even know what to use anymore, probably cant go back to hard wheels again, so its either 93 och x97
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6WyurCtPti/?igsh=cHVrYTdjMmsyMXM1
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand Quoteso i have had the easy slider 56mm 93a Radial for a couple weeks - skated em 4-5 times at least
really happy with the slide and cruise and speed still. flip trick game seems intact even on big board, trucks + wheels (8.75 egg, 149 indy)
just did a side by side with the 99a 52mm classic full
it definitely felt less icy on the 93a but i could still do all my tricks on the curb
feels like i never push at all on the 93a. it got scary fast very quickly. but the wheel is also a lot larger in this case, a 52 vs a 56mm.
I am probably madnessing towards a 54mm radial 99a for my next setup. or the reforumlated 97a, cause i have awhile on these 2 new wheels now to last me :) I think I am kinda over the smaller and classic wheels. I feel like they are not really providing me much value vs. what the bigger square ones are for the type of skating I do. I am starting to get a little better at the noseslide > crook combos but i feel like i dont need the classic wheel for it, i will do fine using a square one and i will stay locked in the grind a lot better too. i think same thing for feebles, dont need to the classic to help get into the grind anymore, will end up staying locked in the grind better with other wheels im thinking.[close]
Is that what you've been riding lately on ig? Looks like it.[close]
riding 2 setups lol between the 99a and the 93a
the line i am riding the 93a 56mm radial and the single tricks is all on my 52mm classic full 99a
i am not sure if i can fully give up the 99a yet. but i am thinking i will go up to 54mm radial. the sound is so awesome on the harder wheel but i dont feel like its really providing me any advantage... It definitely is more icy but i dont think its a huge difference. i did those same tricks on the radial setup as well and it felt like i wasnt grinding as long, but i definitely could still do them all.[close]
Yeah that the video. They look fast. I can see it. I think they're good for you.
All these comments are encouraging. I hope soft wheels stick around
Has anyone gotten a really bad bounce yet leading to injury from basics?. Like the dragons
Expand QuoteIm on 93 classics, was worried about bluntslides but they work. Loved the dragons except for bluntslides (super sticky), hardly skate rails so did not care about the sound they did and the stickyness on rails.
Feel like dragons is faster then 93, atleast for me. But i probably skate slow either way ::)
And dragons rolled over pebbels where the 93 sticks.
Dont even know what to use anymore, probably cant go back to hard wheels again, so its either 93 och x97
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6WyurCtPti/?igsh=cHVrYTdjMmsyMXM1[close]
Notice much difference between 93 and x97?
Expand QuoteIm on 93 classics, was worried about bluntslides but they work. Loved the dragons except for bluntslides (super sticky), hardly skate rails so did not care about the sound they did and the stickyness on rails.
Feel like dragons is faster then 93, atleast for me. But i probably skate slow either way ::)
And dragons rolled over pebbels where the 93 sticks.
Dont even know what to use anymore, probably cant go back to hard wheels again, so its either 93 och x97
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6WyurCtPti/?igsh=cHVrYTdjMmsyMXM1[close]
Notice much difference between 93 and x97?
Nice frosty beer to accompanyWeek two of broken ribs..not much else to do
If wheelbite is an issue it sounds like you gotta hit Jim T up for some Ventures and awaken yourself vs. those Thunders. Between Thunders and Aces that are in your videos you have been on trucks that definitely can end up with a lot of wheelbite.
Expand QuoteIm on 93 classics, was worried about bluntslides but they work. Loved the dragons except for bluntslides (super sticky), hardly skate rails so did not care about the sound they did and the stickyness on rails.
Feel like dragons is faster then 93, atleast for me. But i probably skate slow either way ::)
And dragons rolled over pebbels where the 93 sticks.
Dont even know what to use anymore, probably cant go back to hard wheels again, so its either 93 och x97
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6WyurCtPti/?igsh=cHVrYTdjMmsyMXM1[close]
X99 to solve all your madnessesses
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteIm on 93 classics, was worried about bluntslides but they work. Loved the dragons except for bluntslides (super sticky), hardly skate rails so did not care about the sound they did and the stickyness on rails.
Feel like dragons is faster then 93, atleast for me. But i probably skate slow either way ::)
And dragons rolled over pebbels where the 93 sticks.
Dont even know what to use anymore, probably cant go back to hard wheels again, so its either 93 och x97
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6WyurCtPti/?igsh=cHVrYTdjMmsyMXM1[close]
X99 to solve all your madnessesses[close]
I agree, the x99 for some reason feel better than the x97. The dragons are nice for a cruiser you wanna do a little skating. The f4 93 I like a lot for hard street skating that’s somewhat forgiving.
For me its between the x99 and f4 93 on regular setup/everything everyday skating
I think if you want slightly softer feeling the bones is always the way to go
The f4 93 feel like a regular f4 with some forgiveness to rough ground
Week two of broken ribs..not much else to doExpand QuoteNice frosty beer to accompany[close]
I am still using my 99a setup for skateparks / perfect ground spots. i gotta just have 2 setups lol. i would actually have to choose the 99a setup if i had to pick one still i guess too.
https://streamable.com/nebsx6do you ever try Scotch padded mounting tape under the rails? Works really well to dampen the noise.
https://streamable.com/1eef1t
I am on the 56mm Radials
I am sliding pretty well on them I have to say, not hanging up on feebles on double siders or anything.
They dont feel slow at all to me. And I dont feel like I am wheelbiting on these Indy standards. The setup sounds like absolute shit though. Rattley as fuck with rails, wheels hardly make any sound, and the indy squeak ;D
For shitty spots this feels so much better than skating 99a to me.
I am still using my 99a setup for skateparks / perfect ground spots. i gotta just have 2 setups lol. i would actually have to choose the 99a setup if i had to pick one still i guess too.
Can't be arsed to swap wheels from spot to spot.
Current street/spot/crust setup: X99 (gonna try out the Spit 93s for comparison soon)
Park/smooth ground setup: F4 99
X97s have become obsolete for me. They kinda fall in between everything. They don't bring any advantage over the X99 in my opinion, they're slower than most wheels and if it's mega fucking crusty, I'd rather go for Dragons, but anyway I seem to favour the X99 in pretty much any conditions these days.
Expand Quote
I am still using my 99a setup for skateparks / perfect ground spots. i gotta just have 2 setups lol. i would actually have to choose the 99a setup if i had to pick one still i guess too.[close]
Just swap wheels spot to spot?
do you ever try Scotch padded mounting tape under the rails? Works really well to dampen the noise.Expand Quotehttps://streamable.com/nebsx6
https://streamable.com/1eef1t
I am on the 56mm Radials
I am sliding pretty well on them I have to say, not hanging up on feebles on double siders or anything.
They dont feel slow at all to me. And I dont feel like I am wheelbiting on these Indy standards. The setup sounds like absolute shit though. Rattley as fuck with rails, wheels hardly make any sound, and the indy squeak ;D
For shitty spots this feels so much better than skating 99a to me.
I am still using my 99a setup for skateparks / perfect ground spots. i gotta just have 2 setups lol. i would actually have to choose the 99a setup if i had to pick one still i guess too.[close]
(https://i.ibb.co/VTVBF0D/IMG-20240502-175940-983.jpg) (https://ibb.co/VTVBF0D)I got my 93's f4's today. Crazy that they retain for €75 in France (thank fuck I got a discount). Cannot wait to skate them. I feel bad for teen aged kids gear is getting crazy expensive.Crazy price. Here in Finland they are 59 euros and that's still expensive. 99d/101d are 49 euros.
Expand QuoteIf wheelbite is an issue it sounds like you gotta hit Jim T up for some Ventures and awaken yourself vs. those Thunders. Between Thunders and Aces that are in your videos you have been on trucks that definitely can end up with a lot of wheelbite.[close]
I never had an issue on 54mm even on forged thunders or super loose AF1’s. I’d sooner switch to a smaller 93 than ride ventures. No shade to venture enjoyers they’re just not for me.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteIf wheelbite is an issue it sounds like you gotta hit Jim T up for some Ventures and awaken yourself vs. those Thunders. Between Thunders and Aces that are in your videos you have been on trucks that definitely can end up with a lot of wheelbite.[close]
I never had an issue on 54mm even on forged thunders or super loose AF1’s. I’d sooner switch to a smaller 93 than ride ventures. No shade to venture enjoyers they’re just not for me.[close]
I like your reviews and content a lot and thought maybe you had reviewed Ventures, but didn't see a video of them. Have you tried them recently? I thought that there was just a ton of hype around them and I hadn't ridden them since the SC days and was pleasantly surprised when I tried them again recently. I can run them effectively looser feeling than Thunders or Indys and still have good stability. Given you have Ace, Thunder, Slappy, and I think Indy (maybe I saw wrong) on the channel that could round out the top tier.
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I am still using my 99a setup for skateparks / perfect ground spots. i gotta just have 2 setups lol. i would actually have to choose the 99a setup if i had to pick one still i guess too.[close]
Just swap wheels spot to spot?[close]
That’s true!Expand Quotedo you ever try Scotch padded mounting tape under the rails? Works really well to dampen the noise.Expand Quotehttps://streamable.com/nebsx6
https://streamable.com/1eef1t
I am on the 56mm Radials
I am sliding pretty well on them I have to say, not hanging up on feebles on double siders or anything.
They dont feel slow at all to me. And I dont feel like I am wheelbiting on these Indy standards. The setup sounds like absolute shit though. Rattley as fuck with rails, wheels hardly make any sound, and the indy squeak ;D
For shitty spots this feels so much better than skating 99a to me.
I am still using my 99a setup for skateparks / perfect ground spots. i gotta just have 2 setups lol. i would actually have to choose the 99a setup if i had to pick one still i guess too.[close][close]
Definitely going to try that!
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteIf wheelbite is an issue it sounds like you gotta hit Jim T up for some Ventures and awaken yourself vs. those Thunders. Between Thunders and Aces that are in your videos you have been on trucks that definitely can end up with a lot of wheelbite.[close]
I never had an issue on 54mm even on forged thunders or super loose AF1’s. I’d sooner switch to a smaller 93 than ride ventures. No shade to venture enjoyers they’re just not for me.[close]
I like your reviews and content a lot and thought maybe you had reviewed Ventures, but didn't see a video of them. Have you tried them recently? I thought that there was just a ton of hype around them and I hadn't ridden them since the SC days and was pleasantly surprised when I tried them again recently. I can run them effectively looser feeling than Thunders or Indys and still have good stability. Given you have Ace, Thunder, Slappy, and I think Indy (maybe I saw wrong) on the channel that could round out the top tier.[close]
Hey thanks, dude! I’m just not trying to mess with my WB anymore since I feel like I’ve finally found the sweet spot and tbh I’m just not a fan of the triangle shaped hanger on them. Also they carry a bit of a negative connection for me personally because about a year ago another youtuber who I thought I was cool with started a bunch of drama saying I was biting his style, totally caught me off guard. He had recently switched to ventures and in his DM to me he said something along the lines of “what are you gonna do next, ride ventures?” Lmao. Super dumb but it only solidified me not wanting to ride ventures. That guy sucks. Maybe I’ll give them a shot if they come out with something new but right now I’m looking forward to the new design Thunder is rumored to be working on.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteIf wheelbite is an issue it sounds like you gotta hit Jim T up for some Ventures and awaken yourself vs. those Thunders. Between Thunders and Aces that are in your videos you have been on trucks that definitely can end up with a lot of wheelbite.[close]
I never had an issue on 54mm even on forged thunders or super loose AF1’s. I’d sooner switch to a smaller 93 than ride ventures. No shade to venture enjoyers they’re just not for me.[close]
I like your reviews and content a lot and thought maybe you had reviewed Ventures, but didn't see a video of them. Have you tried them recently? I thought that there was just a ton of hype around them and I hadn't ridden them since the SC days and was pleasantly surprised when I tried them again recently. I can run them effectively looser feeling than Thunders or Indys and still have good stability. Given you have Ace, Thunder, Slappy, and I think Indy (maybe I saw wrong) on the channel that could round out the top tier.[close]
Hey thanks, dude! I’m just not trying to mess with my WB anymore since I feel like I’ve finally found the sweet spot and tbh I’m just not a fan of the triangle shaped hanger on them. Also they carry a bit of a negative connection for me personally because about a year ago another youtuber who I thought I was cool with started a bunch of drama saying I was biting his style, totally caught me off guard. He had recently switched to ventures and in his DM to me he said something along the lines of “what are you gonna do next, ride ventures?” Lmao. Super dumb but it only solidified me not wanting to ride ventures. That guy sucks. Maybe I’ll give them a shot if they come out with something new but right now I’m looking forward to the new design Thunder is rumored to be working on.[close]
for me, i conclude that its kevin nicetry. dont want to assume but it sucks that he seems so chill but acts that way towards a fellow youtuber.
Dad Boards way cooler than Kevin. No offense (maybe a little offense) but no one is trying to look or skate like Kevin Nicetry. Head in arm pit fake steeze having same tired tricks and spots having mf. I just treated this reply as my personal bunt rapid fire. Fuck it.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteIf wheelbite is an issue it sounds like you gotta hit Jim T up for some Ventures and awaken yourself vs. those Thunders. Between Thunders and Aces that are in your videos you have been on trucks that definitely can end up with a lot of wheelbite.[close]
I never had an issue on 54mm even on forged thunders or super loose AF1’s. I’d sooner switch to a smaller 93 than ride ventures. No shade to venture enjoyers they’re just not for me.[close]
I like your reviews and content a lot and thought maybe you had reviewed Ventures, but didn't see a video of them. Have you tried them recently? I thought that there was just a ton of hype around them and I hadn't ridden them since the SC days and was pleasantly surprised when I tried them again recently. I can run them effectively looser feeling than Thunders or Indys and still have good stability. Given you have Ace, Thunder, Slappy, and I think Indy (maybe I saw wrong) on the channel that could round out the top tier.[close]
Hey thanks, dude! I’m just not trying to mess with my WB anymore since I feel like I’ve finally found the sweet spot and tbh I’m just not a fan of the triangle shaped hanger on them. Also they carry a bit of a negative connection for me personally because about a year ago another youtuber who I thought I was cool with started a bunch of drama saying I was biting his style, totally caught me off guard. He had recently switched to ventures and in his DM to me he said something along the lines of “what are you gonna do next, ride ventures?” Lmao. Super dumb but it only solidified me not wanting to ride ventures. That guy sucks. Maybe I’ll give them a shot if they come out with something new but right now I’m looking forward to the new design Thunder is rumored to be working on.[close]
for me, i conclude that its kevin nicetry. dont want to assume but it sucks that he seems so chill but acts that way towards a fellow youtuber.[close]
Damn, good guess
Dad Boards way cooler than Kevin. No offense (maybe a little offense) but no one is trying to look or skate like Kevin Nicetry. Head in arm pit fake steeze having same tired tricks and spots having mf. I just treated this reply as my personal bunt rapid fire. Fuck it.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteIf wheelbite is an issue it sounds like you gotta hit Jim T up for some Ventures and awaken yourself vs. those Thunders. Between Thunders and Aces that are in your videos you have been on trucks that definitely can end up with a lot of wheelbite.[close]
I never had an issue on 54mm even on forged thunders or super loose AF1’s. I’d sooner switch to a smaller 93 than ride ventures. No shade to venture enjoyers they’re just not for me.[close]
I like your reviews and content a lot and thought maybe you had reviewed Ventures, but didn't see a video of them. Have you tried them recently? I thought that there was just a ton of hype around them and I hadn't ridden them since the SC days and was pleasantly surprised when I tried them again recently. I can run them effectively looser feeling than Thunders or Indys and still have good stability. Given you have Ace, Thunder, Slappy, and I think Indy (maybe I saw wrong) on the channel that could round out the top tier.[close]
Hey thanks, dude! I’m just not trying to mess with my WB anymore since I feel like I’ve finally found the sweet spot and tbh I’m just not a fan of the triangle shaped hanger on them. Also they carry a bit of a negative connection for me personally because about a year ago another youtuber who I thought I was cool with started a bunch of drama saying I was biting his style, totally caught me off guard. He had recently switched to ventures and in his DM to me he said something along the lines of “what are you gonna do next, ride ventures?” Lmao. Super dumb but it only solidified me not wanting to ride ventures. That guy sucks. Maybe I’ll give them a shot if they come out with something new but right now I’m looking forward to the new design Thunder is rumored to be working on.[close]
for me, i conclude that its kevin nicetry. dont want to assume but it sucks that he seems so chill but acts that way towards a fellow youtuber.[close]
Damn, good guess[close]
Word. Kinda went off on him but his aw shucks demeanor always came off phony to me. The youtube space for skating only has so many lanes. Kevin is not unique by any means and that's silly that he thought your stuff bit his. Some people's stuff just come off more genuine and I think yours is one of them. Keep it up.Expand QuoteDad Boards way cooler than Kevin. No offense (maybe a little offense) but no one is trying to look or skate like Kevin Nicetry. Head in arm pit fake steeze having same tired tricks and spots having mf. I just treated this reply as my personal bunt rapid fire. Fuck it.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteIf wheelbite is an issue it sounds like you gotta hit Jim T up for some Ventures and awaken yourself vs. those Thunders. Between Thunders and Aces that are in your videos you have been on trucks that definitely can end up with a lot of wheelbite.[close]
I never had an issue on 54mm even on forged thunders or super loose AF1’s. I’d sooner switch to a smaller 93 than ride ventures. No shade to venture enjoyers they’re just not for me.[close]
I like your reviews and content a lot and thought maybe you had reviewed Ventures, but didn't see a video of them. Have you tried them recently? I thought that there was just a ton of hype around them and I hadn't ridden them since the SC days and was pleasantly surprised when I tried them again recently. I can run them effectively looser feeling than Thunders or Indys and still have good stability. Given you have Ace, Thunder, Slappy, and I think Indy (maybe I saw wrong) on the channel that could round out the top tier.[close]
Hey thanks, dude! I’m just not trying to mess with my WB anymore since I feel like I’ve finally found the sweet spot and tbh I’m just not a fan of the triangle shaped hanger on them. Also they carry a bit of a negative connection for me personally because about a year ago another youtuber who I thought I was cool with started a bunch of drama saying I was biting his style, totally caught me off guard. He had recently switched to ventures and in his DM to me he said something along the lines of “what are you gonna do next, ride ventures?” Lmao. Super dumb but it only solidified me not wanting to ride ventures. That guy sucks. Maybe I’ll give them a shot if they come out with something new but right now I’m looking forward to the new design Thunder is rumored to be working on.[close]
for me, i conclude that its kevin nicetry. dont want to assume but it sucks that he seems so chill but acts that way towards a fellow youtuber.[close]
Damn, good guess[close][close]
I won’t argue any of that, and thank you, dude 🤝
But his accusations were around me biting his videos. I found it funny because for the most part any non pro skate youtuber is basically just making videos about gear and learning tricks or discussing some aspect of skateboarding pertaining to regular people who do it for the love. I was gonna make it a big deal when it happened and put screenshots and shit in a video but decided the situation was too kooky so I just blocked him and moved on. Happy I didn’t make it a thing because I think he expected me to and get him more views. Who fuckin knows.
First sesh on the 93 Radial 54 mm's today. Location: smooth concrete park coupled with a crustier street plaza with curbs and ledges.
Amazingly fast on smooth concrete. A bit quieter than a normal hard wheel, but that's no surprise of course. Feels somewhat soft, but not in a bad waty. Doesn't have the "woollen sock" feel or the bounce of Dragons.
Goes f*cking great on crustier ground. Just rollin'. The non-stickiness (sic) is amazing, did some 50-50s on a metal ledge and the wheels didn't stick one bit. Boardslides on a concrete ledge were a breeze, no need to wax the top.
Have yet to try powerslides on them, but I'd be surprised if they were an issue.
Won't be needing my Dragons or X97s anymore. Also, kinda looks like I might replace my X99s on crustier spots with these.
In a nutshell, a great wheel.
Expand QuoteDad Boards way cooler than Kevin. No offense (maybe a little offense) but no one is trying to look or skate like Kevin Nicetry. Head in arm pit fake steeze having same tired tricks and spots having mf. I just treated this reply as my personal bunt rapid fire. Fuck it.[close]
I won’t argue any of that, and thank you, dude 🤝
But his accusations were around me biting his videos. I found it funny because for the most part any non pro skate youtuber is basically just making videos about gear and learning tricks or discussing some aspect of skateboarding pertaining to regular people who do it for the love. I was gonna make it a big deal when it happened and put screenshots and shit in a video but decided the situation was too kooky so I just blocked him and moved on. Happy I didn’t make it a thing because I think he expected me to and get him more views. Who fuckin knows.
im just here to talk about myself fuck the wheels yo
Anybody tried the new 93a's on indoor skatelite yet? I normally skate F4 99's, but it'd be nice to have a wheel that could handle both outdoor crust and slippery indoor parks.
Expand QuoteAnybody tried the new 93a's on indoor skatelite yet? I normally skate F4 99's, but it'd be nice to have a wheel that could handle both outdoor crust and slippery indoor parks.[close]
I skate at a park built inside of an airplane hanger that has skate light ramps. It’s extra slippery from all of the dust that comes in and the 93’s have been great for not slipping around. They’ve been a confidence booster at that park for sure. Also, not sure if these fuckin bozos who only stopped in the thread to throw shade at me know there’s an ignore button, but go fuck yourselves, I was responding to a question. Little bitches.
Expand QuoteAnybody tried the new 93a's on indoor skatelite yet? I normally skate F4 99's, but it'd be nice to have a wheel that could handle both outdoor crust and slippery indoor parks.[close]
I skate at a park built inside of an airplane hanger that has skate light ramps. It’s extra slippery from all of the dust that comes in and the 93’s have been great for not slipping around. They’ve been a confidence booster at that park for sure. Also, not sure if these fuckin bozos who only stopped in the thread to throw shade at me know there’s an ignore button, but go fuck yourselves, I was responding to a question. Little bitches.
off topic, but this is still working on my end, but i only know how to ignore via a user's post. hope you get it fixed b/c that sounds annoyingExpand QuoteExpand QuoteAnybody tried the new 93a's on indoor skatelite yet? I normally skate F4 99's, but it'd be nice to have a wheel that could handle both outdoor crust and slippery indoor parks.[close]
you would see 'you have this person ignored' and an option to view the post[close]
off topic, but this is still working on my end, but i only know how to ignore via a user's post. hope you get it fixed b/c that sounds annoyingExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteAnybody tried the new 93a's on indoor skatelite yet? I normally skate F4 99's, but it'd be nice to have a wheel that could handle both outdoor crust and slippery indoor parks.[close]
you would see 'you have this person ignored' and an option to view the post[close][close]
\ Little bitches.
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Oh oh. I might be shifting over to Team Kevin, pretty soon.
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Oh oh. I might be shifting over to Team Kevin, pretty soon.
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Oh oh. I might be shifting over to Team Kevin, pretty soon.[close]
; )
Oh wait, you mean the YouTube Kevin. Damn…
(https://i.postimg.cc/W1m5zkcw/IMG-2410.gif)Says the dude playing hella Oscar worthy emotional victim.
Says the dude playing hella Oscar worthy emotional victim.Expand Quote(https://i.postimg.cc/W1m5zkcw/IMG-2410.gif)[close]
You jump all over any praise or compliment, but the second it's not that you immediately go "FUCKING DIE, YOU'RE A LOSER LITTLE BITCH"
Like dude, are you this much of a loose cannon to your family? Fuckin pump the brakes
Oh and 54mm Spitfire classics are the shit.
Expand QuoteSays the dude playing hella Oscar worthy emotional victim.Expand Quote(https://i.postimg.cc/W1m5zkcw/IMG-2410.gif)[close]
You jump all over any praise or compliment, but the second it's not that you immediately go "FUCKING DIE, YOU'RE A LOSER LITTLE BITCH"
Like dude, are you this much of a loose cannon to your family? Fuckin pump the brakes
Oh and 54mm Spitfire classics are the shit.[close]
I didn’t start shit with anyone, bud. Y’all are on some weird passive aggressive shit around here and it’s obvious you got your little club of cool guys who will go after someone if you don’t like them. You can have this shit my guy. Hit your little kook button and feel like a big boy 👍
Little bitches.
lmao pretty sure that was a jokeSarcasm is a tricky thing if not live.
Clearly the Spitfire 93s are starting to appeal to more than just the old and sore skater audience (as compared to Dragons pretty much seeming to remain a boomer-only wheel).
I mean, a really good tech skater homie of mine just praised the Reynolds Soft Sliders 52mm's a whole lot after testing them on some rough ghetto asphalt. Dude has been riding almost solely tiny hard-ass wheels for the past 10 years and absolutely fucking rips on flatground, ledges, flatbars and curbs. He is not your usual Kool-Aid drinker, so I kinda trust him on his opinions.
many people who might have scoffed at "soft wheels" in the past could now actually enjoy riding them.
Clearly the Spitfire 93s are starting to appeal to more than just the old and sore skater audience (as compared to Dragons pretty much seeming to remain a boomer-only wheel).
I mean, a really good tech skater homie of mine just praised the Reynolds Soft Sliders 52mm's a whole lot after testing them on some rough ghetto asphalt. Dude has been riding almost solely tiny hard-ass wheels for the past 10 years and absolutely fucking rips on flatground, ledges, flatbars and curbs. He is not your usual Kool-Aid drinker, so I kinda trust him on his opinions.
Clearly the Spitfire 93s are starting to appeal to more than just the old and sore skater audience (as compared to Dragons pretty much seeming to remain a boomer-only wheel).
Clearly the Spitfire 93s are starting to appeal to more than just the old and sore skater audience (as compared to Dragons pretty much seeming to remain a boomer-only wheel).
I mean, a really good tech skater homie of mine just praised the Reynolds Soft Sliders 52mm's a whole lot after testing them on some rough ghetto asphalt. Dude has been riding almost solely tiny hard-ass wheels for the past 10 years and absolutely fucking rips on flatground, ledges, flatbars and curbs. He is not your usual Kool-Aid drinker, so I kinda trust him on his opinions.
I'd take a 20 percent hit to performance to ride something i jive with tbh. Not saying it's logical but I have to feel good about my ride and even if graphics wear off, I will know. I do have a set of dragons just because curiosity was way too strong with that one. Now I have 93 spits. I'm sure the x99's are excellent by all accounts but I think I can exist happily alternating between f499s, 93s, and my dragons.Expand QuoteClearly the Spitfire 93s are starting to appeal to more than just the old and sore skater audience (as compared to Dragons pretty much seeming to remain a boomer-only wheel).
I mean, a really good tech skater homie of mine just praised the Reynolds Soft Sliders 52mm's a whole lot after testing them on some rough ghetto asphalt. Dude has been riding almost solely tiny hard-ass wheels for the past 10 years and absolutely fucking rips on flatground, ledges, flatbars and curbs. He is not your usual Kool-Aid drinker, so I kinda trust him on his opinions.[close]
Fanboism is a hard thing to get over..the same 'ride the best' jock mentality applies to spit diehards...they'd NEVER touch a bones wheel if it gave blowjobs...but if spit makes it, hawtdang son, this is the best shit EVER. PLus, you know the flame (boy) head is FUCKING LIT at any age...
You assuming that dragons were for the 'old and sore or a boomer wheel (lol STFU up what shit)' is a naive view; do you know how many people in the industry (and pros) were low-key riding dragons/x-formula since they dropped?
The sole reason why spit 93s exist is because of skateboarders wanting a softer wheel that slides and BONEs nailing it and spit wanting a share (and not wanting their pros riding or moving over to the competition).
I dig both brands (currently on spit classics 101s), but when it comes to wheels spit has always been retroactive, not proactive; 93a spits exists because dragons/xformula exist...if you think spit didn't know about bones' 'experimental' wheel well into it's development you'd be wrong.
i imagine the classics must noseslide /powerslide / blunt FLAT SPOT INSTANTLYYes, yes they do.
I'd take a 20 percent hit to performance to ride something i jive with tbh. Not saying it's logical but I have to feel good about my ride and even if graphics wear off, I will know. I do have a set of dragons just because curiosity was way too strong with that one. Now I have 93 spits. I'm sure the x99's are excellent by all accounts but I think I can exist happily alternating between f499s, 93s, and my dragons.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteClearly the Spitfire 93s are starting to appeal to more than just the old and sore skater audience (as compared to Dragons pretty much seeming to remain a boomer-only wheel).
I mean, a really good tech skater homie of mine just praised the Reynolds Soft Sliders 52mm's a whole lot after testing them on some rough ghetto asphalt. Dude has been riding almost solely tiny hard-ass wheels for the past 10 years and absolutely fucking rips on flatground, ledges, flatbars and curbs. He is not your usual Kool-Aid drinker, so I kinda trust him on his opinions.[close]
Fanboism is a hard thing to get over..the same 'ride the best' jock mentality applies to spit diehards...they'd NEVER touch a bones wheel if it gave blowjobs...but if spit makes it, hawtdang son, this is the best shit EVER. PLus, you know the flame (boy) head is FUCKING LIT at any age...
You assuming that dragons were for the 'old and sore or a boomer wheel (lol STFU up what shit)' is a naive view; do you know how many people in the industry (and pros) were low-key riding dragons/x-formula since they dropped?
The sole reason why spit 93s exist is because of skateboarders wanting a softer wheel that slides and BONEs nailing it and spit wanting a share (and not wanting their pros riding or moving over to the competition).
I dig both brands (currently on spit classics 101s), but when it comes to wheels spit has always been retroactive, not proactive; 93a spits exists because dragons/xformula exist...if you think spit didn't know about bones' 'experimental' wheel well into it's development you'd be wrong.[close]
I think skate one will always be the place where they make progressive excellent product that a lot of people that are vain don't want to touch. I've also heard that mini logo trucks are excellent. But my god no thanks.
Expand QuoteClearly the Spitfire 93s are starting to appeal to more than just the old and sore skater audience (as compared to Dragons pretty much seeming to remain a boomer-only wheel).[close]
Your belief is that the majority of people purchasing (and skating) the Dragons are between the ages of 60 and 78?
Expand QuoteClearly the Spitfire 93s are starting to appeal to more than just the old and sore skater audience (as compared to Dragons pretty much seeming to remain a boomer-only wheel).
I mean, a really good tech skater homie of mine just praised the Reynolds Soft Sliders 52mm's a whole lot after testing them on some rough ghetto asphalt. Dude has been riding almost solely tiny hard-ass wheels for the past 10 years and absolutely fucking rips on flatground, ledges, flatbars and curbs. He is not your usual Kool-Aid drinker, so I kinda trust him on his opinions.[close]
Fanboism is a hard thing to get over..the same 'ride the best' jock mentality applies to spit diehards...they'd NEVER touch a bones wheel if it gave blowjobs...but if spit makes it, hawtdang son, this is the best shit EVER. PLus, you know the flame (boy) head is FUCKING LIT at any age...
You assuming that dragons were for the 'old and sore or a boomer wheel (lol STFU up what shit)' is a naive view; do you know how many people in the industry (and pros) were low-key riding dragons/x-formula since they dropped?
The sole reason why spit 93s exist is because of skateboarders wanting a softer wheel that slides and BONEs nailing it and spit wanting a share (and not wanting their pros riding or moving over to the competition).
I dig both brands (currently on spit classics 101s), but when it comes to wheels spit has always been retroactive, not proactive; 93a spits exists because dragons/xformula exist...if you think spit didn't know about bones' 'experimental' wheel well into it's development you'd be wrong.
Expand QuoteClearly the Spitfire 93s are starting to appeal to more than just the old and sore skater audience (as compared to Dragons pretty much seeming to remain a boomer-only wheel).
I mean, a really good tech skater homie of mine just praised the Reynolds Soft Sliders 52mm's a whole lot after testing them on some rough ghetto asphalt. Dude has been riding almost solely tiny hard-ass wheels for the past 10 years and absolutely fucking rips on flatground, ledges, flatbars and curbs. He is not your usual Kool-Aid drinker, so I kinda trust him on his opinions.[close]
Fanboism is a hard thing to get over..the same 'ride the best' jock mentality applies to spit diehards...they'd NEVER touch a bones wheel if it gave blowjobs...but if spit makes it, hawtdang son, this is the best shit EVER. PLus, you know the flame (boy) head is FUCKING LIT at any age...
You assuming that dragons were for the 'old and sore or a boomer wheel (lol STFU up what shit)' is a naive view; do you know how many people in the industry (and pros) were low-key riding dragons/x-formula since they dropped?
The sole reason why spit 93s exist is because of skateboarders wanting a softer wheel that slides and BONEs nailing it and spit wanting a share (and not wanting their pros riding or moving over to the competition).
I dig both brands (currently on spit classics 101s), but when it comes to wheels spit has always been retroactive, not proactive; 93a spits exists because dragons/xformula exist...if you think spit didn't know about bones' 'experimental' wheel well into it's development you'd be wrong.
Older (maybe, but doubt it) as for sore? No way...Between 7 day 2hr avg gym workouts AND skating everyday (9among hiking/walking and biking) if I can, I'm a straight up mess...takes me half my skate sessions just to warm up these days :(
A while back I had noticed a new set of Formula fours I got felt and looked different than what I was accustomed to, assumed I was fried and carried on.Great shape/formula collab! One of my fave. Just gave away my last old set :/
Fast forward a year or so and I came across
Some classic full 99s that were like new and set them up. Crazy how different they feel vs some kader radial
Fulls I have. Color, the way they wear and slide.
These almost feel like a 98 vs what’s available now. I suppose every batch of wheels would feel slightly different as the variables with mixing things up and how
Many wheels they’re making that day.
Hope they make a classic full again too.
Expand QuoteOlder (maybe, but doubt it) as for sore? No way...Between 7 day 2hr avg gym workouts AND skating everyday (9among hiking/walking and biking) if I can, I'm a straight up mess...takes me half my skate sessions just to warm up these days :([close]
I hear you, it can take friggin' 30 minutes for me before I dare to try my first ollie in a sesh. Skating everyday? Good on ya. I just can't do it. Two-three consecutive days and I'm a wreck.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteOlder (maybe, but doubt it) as for sore? No way...Between 7 day 2hr avg gym workouts AND skating everyday (9among hiking/walking and biking) if I can, I'm a straight up mess...takes me half my skate sessions just to warm up these days :([close]
I hear you, it can take friggin' 30 minutes for me before I dare to try my first ollie in a sesh. Skating everyday? Good on ya. I just can't do it. Two-three consecutive days and I'm a wreck.[close]
30min, damn, you're fast! I've always had a weird rhythm, even before I was old and broken, takes me forever to warm up (meanwhile people are going all in out of the gate), but I'm also the last one skating and that's usually where I shine, the latter half of the session after everyone is sitting down.
Hope they make a classic full again too.
Expand QuoteHope they make a classic full again too.[close]
This. Again, would be very interested in either classic full or radial slim 93s.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteHope they make a classic full again too.[close]
This. Again, would be very interested in either classic full or radial slim 93s.[close]
What sizes do you guys prefer in the Classic Full wheels?
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteHope they make a classic full again too.[close]
This. Again, would be very interested in either classic full or radial slim 93s.[close]
What sizes do you guys prefer in the Classic Full wheels?[close]
Classic Fulls at 52mm, same as my Classics. I guess part of it is just that the slightly wider profile looks better, probably very little impact on performance...
I don't know if my interest to Radial Slims is just nostalgy. I have very fond memories of that shape. Radial or Conical Full is bit heavy and impacts my kickflips, and I'm too lazy to adapt.
Don't even tell me, for some reason I got lock in full time ago and they're just sitting in my closet waiting to be never skated.Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteHope they make a classic full again too.[close]
This. Again, would be very interested in either classic full or radial slim 93s.[close]
What sizes do you guys prefer in the Classic Full wheels?[close]
Classic Fulls at 52mm, same as my Classics. I guess part of it is just that the slightly wider profile looks better, probably very little impact on performance...
I don't know if my interest to Radial Slims is just nostalgy. I have very fond memories of that shape. Radial or Conical Full is bit heavy and impacts my kickflips, and I'm too lazy to adapt.[close]
Anything full is just too wide.